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Written Answers

Volume 757: debated on Wednesday 31 January 1968

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 31st January, 1968

Scotland

Breath Tests

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people have been required by the police to take

BREATH, BLOOD AND URINE SPECIMENS PROVIDED IN SCOTLAND FOR PERIOD 9TH OCTOBER—31ST DECEMBER, 1967
Road Safety Act 1967PositiveNegativeRefused or failedTotal
Breath tests at roadside or hospital (section 2(1) and (2))875861361,772
Breath tests at police stations (section2(2))1,1331191101,362
Blood providedUrine providedRefused or failedTotal
Blood and urine specimens for laboratory test1,047173661,286
NOTE: These figures relate to tests, not to persons. In particular, persons arrested after a roadside test (first line) are given a further opportunity of a test at the police station (second line).

Afforestation (Chipwood)

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take steps to encourage the growing of more timber in Scotland, suitable for making into chipwood.

Encouragement is already available through grants for private woodland owners. In addition the Government recently announced a major increase in the Forestry Commission's future planting programme. It is, however, impossible to predict the eventual use of the timber produced from trees planted now or in the years to come.

Roads

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in what financial year he will make provision for the improvements in the A6091 road, namely the construction of a new bridge at Galafoot; the realignment of the road between Galashiels and Darnick; and the improvements required to connect Darnick with the A68.

The timing of these improvements will be related to the programming of broader developments in the area, which is now being considered by Roxburgh and Selkirk County Councils.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the estimated Exchequer expenditure to be incurred on a breathalyser test up to the most recent convenient date; and how many of these tests were positive in the first instance and led to the giving of a sample of blood or urine.

£26·8 million on the road programme and £1·4 million on improvements to local authority roads included in the programme of additional winter works.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether the figures for the proposed level of expenditure on construction and improvement of roads in Scotland in 1968–69 and 1969–70 have yet been finalised.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answers I gave to the hon. Members for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne) and Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton) on 18th and 19th January, respectively.—[Vol. 756 c. 658c. 687–8.]

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the effect on the Scottish road programme of the current review of Government expenditure; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answers my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Members for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne) and Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton) on 18th and 19th January, respectively.—[Vol. 756, c. 658; c. 687–8.]

The Borders (Edinburgh University Report)

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will publish an abbreviated edition, containing the main proposals, of the Edinburgh University report on the Borders at a price which will make it readily purchasable by individuals at the same time as the full plan is published.

At the request of the Borders Consultative Group, I am arranging for the main proposals to be published simultaneously with the Report in a special issue of the Scottish Economic Development Quarterly Report, of which free copies will be widely available in the Borders.

The Highlands (Local Authority Expenditure)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proposals he has for changes in expenditure by local authorities in the Highlands as a result of devaluation.

The relevant policies announced by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister in his statement of 16th January apply to all local authorities in Great Britain, and Highland authorities will be expected to contribute al appropriate share.

Highland Agriculture (Balance Of Payments)

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in view of the fact that the United Kingdom will not be joining the European Economic Community in the near future, if he will make a reappraisal of the contribution which Highland agriculture can make to the balance of payments problem.

Whether or not we join the European Economic Community, the Government have taken, and will continue to take, account of the contribution which Highland agriculture can make to the saving of food imports and our balance of payments. This, and all other aspects of the position of the agricultural industry in the national economy, will be carefully considered during the Annual Review which begins tomorrow.

Potato Growers (Guaranteed Price)

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will ensure that the aggregate price received by main crop potato growers in Scotland is not less than the guaranteed price for the current year.

My right hon. Friend cannot ensure this in terms of the guarantee arrangements under which the guaranteed price to potato growers relates to the United Kingdom as a whole and to the season as a whole.

Productive Trades

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in view of the uneven distribution of productive trade throughout Great Britain, including South-West Scotland, if he will now state his further plans in conjunction with the President of the Board of Trade to attract such trades to Aberdeen and North-East Scotland in order to stop the drift south of skilled craftsmen and women and other workers.

I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to the replies which I gave him on 21st December, 1966 and 18th January, 1968.—[Vol. 738, c. 313; Vol. 756 c. 656.]

Clyde Shipping Services

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will convene a conference of local authorities and others concerned to discuss the future of Clyde shipping services.

Not at present. In the meantime I am sure that the operators concerned would be ready to consider any specific suggestions which the hon. Gentleman may have in mind.

Hospital Beds

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of patients on the present geriatric waiting list for Ayshire.

On 31st December last 154 persons were waiting for geriatric beds in Ayrshire hospitals.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the shortage of hospital beds in Scotland.

I have nothing to add to the Answers my right hon. Friend gave the hon. Gentleman on 6th December last.—[Vol. 755, c. 309–10.]

Storm Damage

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what information he has received as to the extent of damage to the forests and woodlands of Scotland by the gale on 14th-15th January; whether he is making any special arrangements for the marketing of blown timber; and if he will make a statement.

The Forestry Commission has reported that the latest estimate of timber blown is 38 million hoppus ft. The Chairman of the Commission has told me that he met representatives of the home timber trade and private woodland owners on 29th January to explore the practical problems arising from the storm. As a result it has been decided to set up a joint action group of the three interests to examine such questions as the extraction, transport and marketing problems involved and to report further.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the damage caused in the landward areas of the counties of Renfrew and Stirling by the hurricane of 15th January.

The County Councils of Renfrew and Stirling have given me provisional estimates of the cost of restoration of the storm damage to their own premises (including houses) and to private house property: these amount to £351,000 and £150,000 respectively. I cannot put a figure on the cost of other damage.

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what money will be made available from public funds to meet the damage to agricultural land and property caused by the hurricane on 15th January.

Grant under the Farm Improvement Scheme or the Horticulture Improvement Scheme will be available in appropriate cases.

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of the decisions taken at the meeting on 29th January which considered the damage suffered by the small farms in the Stirlingshire and surrounding areas during the recent storm; and whether he will expedite the steps which he is taking to assist the rural areas.

As regards the meeting held on 29th January which was concerned with damage to forestry, I would refer the hon. Member to my reply earlier today to the hon. Member for East Fife.As regards the damage to farm buildings my Department is already dealing as a matter of urgency with applications for grant under the Farm Improvement Scheme and the Horticulture Improvement Scheme.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what marketing arrangements he will introduce to assist the forestry and woodland industry in Scotland following the recent hurricane.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what estimate he now has of the damage to timber in the recent hurricane;(2) what help he is able to give to the forestry industry in Scotland as a result of recent consultations with them to make good the damage from the recent hurricane.

I would refer to the reply which I gave today to the hon. Member for Fife, East (Sir J. Gilmour).

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much financial help he proposes to give to home owners who are uninsured and who have suffered damage in the recent hurricane of over £100 value.

As I told the House on 25th January, I have asked local authorities to organise repair work not only to their own houses but also to others so far as they judge this necessary to get essential work done quickly. This does not of course relieve the house owner of ultimate financial responsibility.—[Vol. 757, c. 608–11.]

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied that the help he has proposed for the horticultural industry is adequate to restore the glasshouses destroyed in the recent gale; and if he will make a statement.

The rate of grant under the Horticulture Improvement Scheme is 31⅓ per cent., and this should be a substantial help.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses in the city of Glasgow were rendered uninhabitable as a result of the recent storm; and how many of these were built by direct labour and how many by private enterprise.

According to my latest information the Corporation regard 721 houses as permanently uninhabitable and 208 as temporarily uninhabitable. Of these 63 were local authority houses of which 12 were built by direct labour.

Prescription Charges (Revenue)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the increase in revenue resulting from the reimposition of prescription charges in Scotland.

Child Adoption (Age Limit)

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that the present age limit on young married couples wishing to adopt a child into their family operates harshly; and if he will take steps to alter it in accordance with modern humane ideas.

The age requirements of an applicant for an adoption order, and other aspects of adoption law, are based on the 1954 report of the departmental committee on the adoption of children. My Department and the Home Office are already collecting information on the working of the present law, and suggestions for its improvement, and the point made by my hon. and learned Friend will be kept in mind.

Stranraer-Dumfries Railway Line

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he has taken on the recommendation made to him by the South-West of Scotland Economic Planning Group that the track and formation of the Stranraer-Dumfries line should be retained.

I have been in consultation with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport and we have very fully considered the representations made by the South-West Economic Planning Consultative Group and by other bodies. We have concluded, however, that there are not sufficient grounds to justify the Minister asking the British Railways Board to stop the work which is now proceeding on the removal of the track and formation of this line.

Unemployment

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what particular steps he is taking to prevent unemployment in Scotland reaching a figure of 100,000.

The Government are maintaining in full the range of inducements to industry to expand and develop in Scotland, in pursuance of their overall policy of giving special priority to economic growth in the development areas. While I make no arithmetical predictions about the immediate future, these measures are already beginning to have a substantial effect in providing additional employment.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what additional unemployment he expects to be created in Scotland as a result of the Government's latest economy measures.

The national measures associated with devaluation, including the recently announced cuts in public expenditure, are intended to release resources for export and import-saving industries, facilitating export-led growth over the coming months. As this growth occurs employment in Scotland should benefit, particularly as existing incentives to industrial growth in the development areas are being fully maintained.

Town Maps

52 and 53.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) when the town maps for Springboig, Carmyle, Baillieston and Bargeddie will be ready; when the work will commence; what is the approximate cost; and if he will make a statement;

(2) when the town maps for Bellshiel, Tannochside, Newarthill, Carfin and Chapelhall will be ready; when the work will commence; what is the approximate cost; and if he will make a statement.

The preparation and submission of town maps is in the first instance for the County Council as planning authority, and I do not have the detailed information which my hon. Friend requests.

Salmon Fishing (Rights)

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will introduce legislation to vest all rights of salmon fishing in the nation of Scotland.

Representations in favour of some measure of public ownership are included among the many I have received on the report of the Hunter Committee. I have not yet reached conclusions on the Committee's recommendations or the representations but I am considering them all carefully.

School-Leaving Age

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what discussions he has had with interested bodies about postponing the school-leaving age to 16 years in 1970.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 16th January.—[Vol. 756, c. 1577–93.]

Crime

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proposals he has to make as a result of his discussions with the Lord Provost and magistrates of Glasgow, with a view to the curbing of crime and violence in the city.

My hon. Friend, the Joint Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, met representatives of Glasgow Corporation on 8th December.The meeting discussed the question of extended police powers under the Prevention of Crime Act 1953 in respect of persons carrying offensive weapons. On this, the position is as I stated it in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend, the Member for Motherwell, on 23rd January.The meeting went on to a fruitful discussion on other possible action to reduce crime and disorderly behaviour, particularly by young people. The Corporation welcomed a proposal by my hon. Friend that the police, in co-operation with the Scottish Information Office, should undertake a police publicity campaign this year. The meeting also discussed the provision of community facilities and the development of community activities in the new housing areas and agreed to set up a working party of Corporation and Departmental officials to examine how progress might be made in this field.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what new proposals he has to deal with the increase in crimes of violence.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given today to the hon. Member for Dumfries (Mr. Monro) and other hon. Members.

Multi-Storey Flats

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action has been taken to carry out a study of the advantages and disadvantages of living in multi-storey flats.

Following its sub-committee's report on "Housing Management in Scotland", paragraphs 190–205 of which refer to some problems of multi-storey housing, the Scottish Housing Advisory Committee is taking a close interest in a research study into this question which is being carried out by the Department of Social and Economic Research of the University of Glasgow. The Committee has decided that it should not undertake any separate investigation until the results of the study are known.

Council Houses (Sale)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now make a statement on his policy regarding the sale of council houses in Scotland.

The hon. Gentleman knows from the debate which he initiated on 18th December that my right hon. Friend is against the sale of council houses as a general policy but consents to it in very special circumstances.

Scottish Lawyers (International Conferences)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland on what occasions within the last 10 years Scottish qualified lawyers have represented and participated, respectively, on behalf of the United Kingdom in official international conferences.

Scottish lawyers have attended the following conferences as U.K. delegates:1960:United Nations Seminar on the Protection of Human Rights in Criminal procedure.1964:

  • Diplomatic Conference on the Unification of Law governing the International Sale of Goods.
  • Third Conference of European Ministers of Justice.
  • Tenth Session of The Hague Conference on Private International Law.

1965:

First Meeting of The Hague Conference on Private International Law's Special Commission on Divorce, Separation and Nullity of Marriage.

1966:

  • Extraordinary Session of The Hague Conference on Private International Law for the purpose of completing the Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Judgments in Civil and Commercial Matters.
  • Fourth Conference of European Ministers of Justice.
  • Council of Europe: the European Committee on Legal Co-operation's Sub-Committee on Fundamental Legal Concepts, on the concept of time-limit.
  • Special Session of The Hague Conference on Private International Law to consider the Protocol to the Convention on the Recognition and Enforcement of Foreign Judgments (Exorbitant Jurisdictions).
  • Commonwealth Law Ministers' Conference.
  • Fourth Meeting of the North-East Atlantic Fisheries Commission.

1967:

  • Council of Europe: the European Committee on Legal Co-operation's Sub-Committee on Fundamental Legal Concepts, on the concept of residence and domicile.
  • Second Meeting of The Hague Conference on Private International Law's Special Commission on Divorce.
  • Council of Europe: Committee of Experts for the Standardisation of the Concept of "Time-Limit".

Housing

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the levels of public investments in housing in Scotland for the three years preceding and following 1964.

The following information relates to financial years ending 31st March:

£ million
1961–6245·4
1962–6353·5
1963–6482·7
1964–6590·5
1965–6696·0
1966–67116·0

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the effect on the Scottish housing programme of the current review of Government expenditure; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave earlier today to my hon. Friends the Members for Midlothian (Mr. Eadie) and South Ayrshire (Mr. Emrys Hughes).

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will give details of the cities and counties in Scotland which will be affected by the slow-down of house building recently announced by the Government on 16th January;(2) by how much Edinburgh housing programme will be affected by the slowdown of house building in Scotland announced by the Government on 16th January.

The matter is being gone into with the housing authorities, but Edinburgh has been assured that it will not be affected in view of its serious housing shortage. Housing for economic growth will not be affected, nor will housing for replacement of unit houses or for serious local shortages.

Education (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will break down the £217·115 million actual total expenditure on all types of education for 1966–67 in Scotland by counties and according to whether the expenditure was on universities, schools and other educational institutions.

I am writing to the hon. Member about the breakdown of the total actual expenditure on the different types of education for 1966–67.

Homeless Families

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many homeless families there are in Scotland; and whether he will give an assurance that no Government cuts will slow down measures to reduce this number.

Except for those who lost their homes in the recent storm and have not yet been rehoused very few families in Scotland are completely homeless. I can give the assurance the hon. Member asks for.

Emigration

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is to be the scope of the inquiry which started two months ago into the causes of Scottish emigration.

I refer to my Answer today to the hon. Member for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne).

Scottish Land Court (Legal Aid)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will seek to extend legal aid to parties appearing in the Scottish Land Court in terms of the Resolution of the Law Society of Scotland passed at their annual general meeting in April, 1967, a copy of which has been sent to him.

Scottish Agriculture

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will estimate the additional cost to Scottish agriculture due to the Government's economic measures announced on 18th November.

The increase in Bank rate from 6½ per cent. to 8 per cent., if continued for a full year, would increase the cost to Scottish agriculture of credit for current farming purposes by about £0·6 million. It is not practicable to isolate the effects of devaluation from other factors affecting agricultural costs but all cost increases will be taken into account at the Annual Review.

Economic Policy (Statistical Information)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied that the statistical economic information available to him in Scotland is adequate for the purpose of deciding upon economic policy; what plans he has for improving the information available to him; and if he will make a statement.

A wide range of statistical information bearing upon economic policy is available to me from the Scottish Statistical Office, the Board of Trade, the Ministry of Labour and other Government Departments. This information has been progressively widened and will continue to be improved as opportunity offers.

Forestry Commission (Compulsory Acquisition)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland in respect of what acreage the Forestry Commission have used the power of compulsory acquisition in each of the last 10 years in Scotland.

Transport Services (Taxation)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received regarding the burdens of taxation on transport services in Scotland; and what reply he has sent.

My right hon. Friend has received representations from a number of firms and organisations; he has replied reaffirming the Government's view that the Transport Bill will increase the efficiency of transport services to the Scottish economy but that certain technical aspects of the Bill, in particular the provisions about abnormal loads, are being specially considered by the Transport Committee of the Scottish Economic Planning Council.

Deaf Children (Schools)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many educational institutions in Scotland offer teaching facilities for deaf children; what are the addresses; and how many places there are at each.

The following 14 schools provide for the education of deaf and partially hearing children:

Places
Aberdeen School for the Deaf, Linksfield Road, Aberdeen65
Dundee School for the Deaf, Dudhope Road, Dundee60
Donaldson's School for the Deaf, West Coates, Edinburgh, 12180
St. Giles School, Sighthill Crescent, Edinburgh, 11120
Glasgow School for the Deaf, 40 Campbell Street, Maryhill, Glasgow, N.W.90
Parkhouse School, Buckley Street, Glasgow, N.270
St. Vincent's (Tollcross) School Fullarton Avenue, Glasgow, E.2130
West Park School, Kilmaurs, Ayrshire50
Hartfield School, Dumbarton20
Auchinraith School, Hamilton, Lantarkshire70
Drumpark School, Coatbridge, Lanarkshire10
Garvel School, Finnart Street, Greenock15
Gateside School, Renfrew Road, Paisley15
Dawson Park School, Bainsford, Falkirk20
915

Central Council For Agricultural And Horticultural Co-Operation

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland why the headquarters of the Central Council for Agricultural and Horticultural Co-operation will not be established in Scotland.

The decision to establish the headquarters of the Central Council for Agricultural and Horticultural Co-operation in London was taken after full consideration of all relevant factors.

National Health Service (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will break down by counties the £149 million total public expenditure on the National Health Service.

I regret that this information is not available. Hospitals and other health services do not necessarily operate on a county basis.

Local Authority Investment Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what cuts he proposes to make in local authority investment programmes; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to my right hon. Friend's reply of 17th January to my hon. Friend the Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton).—[Vol 756, c. 591; c. 687–88.]

Hospital Building Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the effect on the Scottish hospital-building programme or the current review of Government expenditure; and if he will make a statement.

School-Building Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the effect on the Scottish school-building programme of the current review of Government expendnture; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the effect of post-devaluation austerity on the school-building programme in Scotland.

I would refer the hon. Members to the reply I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Midlothian (Mr. Eadie). I am sending to the hon. Members a copy of Circular 667.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the school-building programme in relation to the adequacy of numbers of school places when the school-leaving age is raised in 1970–71; and if he will make a statement.

Now that the raising of the school leaving age has been deferred to 1972–73, the school building programme is under review.

Industrial Activity (North-East Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if the present level of industrial activity in North-East Scotland is in accordance with the targets laid down in Command Paper No. 2864, The Scottish Economy, 1965 to 1970; and if he will make a statement.

No separate targets for levels of industrial activity in North-East Scotland were laid down in the White Paper.

Hill And Upland Areas (Food Production)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the contribution which can be made by the hill and upland areas of Scotland to the saving of food imports following devaluation; and if he will make a statement.

The Government have taken, and will continue to take, account of the contributions which the hill and upland areas of Scotland can make to the saving of food imports and our balance of payments. This, and all other aspects of the position of the agricultural industry in the national economy, will be carefully considered during the Annual Review which begins tomorrow.

Comprehensive Education (Glasgow)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are his plans for comprehensive education in the city of Glasgow.

My right hon. Friend told the education authority some time ago that the plans it had formulated to complete its system of all-through comprehen- sive schools were generally acceptable. He is awaiting its reconsideration of the position of the fee-paying schools.

Rating

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will set up a committee to examine the impact of rating in Scotland and to make recommendations.

Flood Prevention (Glasgow)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans have been submitted to him for his approval by Glasgow Corporation for the prevention of flooding in the Househillwood area of the city; and if he will make a statement.

None. The corporation is awaiting a report from consulting engineers about the cause of the flooding and the need for preventive measures.

Prescription Charges

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the total cost since 1964 of the abolition of prescription charges in Scotland.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave him on 25th October, 1967.—[Vol. 751, c. 477.]

Ayrshire Hearing Aid Clinic (Waiting Time)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what reduction there has been since last November in the period for which patients are required to wait after applying for a hearing-aid to the Ayrshire Hearing Aid Clinic.

As no clinics were held over the Christmas and New Year period there has been a slight increase in the waiting time, but I expect this to be reduced again to six weeks by the end of February.

Road Accidents (Aberdeen)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the number and nature of road accidents and casualties in and about the city of Aberdeen during each of the Christmas and Hogmanay periods during each of the last five years.

Number of Casualties
DateNumber of AccidentsKilledSeriously InjuredSlightly Injured
CHRISTMAS
1967 (5 days)13Nil113
1966 (5 days)13Nil115
1965 (4 days)*Nil13
1964 (6 days)*2**
1963 (4 days)*Nil**
NEW YEAR
1967–68 (5 days)11NilNil12
1966–67 (5 days)11Nil415
1965–66 (4 days)*NilNil5
1964–65 (5 days)*Nil**
1963–64 (4 days)*Nil**
* Information not available.

Housing Management (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what progress has been made in implementing the recommendations of the sub-committee of the Scottish Housing Advisory Committee as outlined in the report, Housing Management in Scotland;(2) what action has been taken to identify local authorities who have failed to accord importance and priority to housing management affairs, in accordance with the recommendation of the Scottish Housing Advisory Committee;(3) what action has been taken to re-establish within the Scottish Development Department the post of Adviser in Housing Management.

My right hon. Friend is awaiting the comments of the Scottish Housing Advisory Committee, the local authorities and other interested bodies on the sub-committee's report on Housing Management and in the meantime it would be premature for him to comment on the sub-committee's recommendations.

Scottish Tourist Board

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in view of the fact that the Highlands and Islands Development Board have funds available for advertising the tourist attractions of the Highlands and Islands, he will take steps to provide the Scottish Tourist

The information is as follows:Board with funds for advertising the equal attractions of other parts of Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

The Scottish Tourist Board undertakes publicity on behalf of the whole of Scotland and has been working in close co-operation with the British Travel Association in the current Holiday-in-Britain campaign towards the cost of which the Government are providing a special grant of £300,000.

Highlands And Islands Development Board

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will redefine the area of the Highlands and Islands Development Board in accordance with the definition of the Highlands contained in the Act of 1797, Anno 37 George III. c. 102. section VI.

Government Offices And Agencies (Scotland)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what plans he has to site further Government offices or agencies in Scotland in 1968.

Scotland is considered whenever locations are desired for new or transferred Government work. The Minister departmentally concerned announces the Government's decision in each case as soon as possible.

Board Of Trade

Aluminium-Using Industries (North-East)

56 and 57.

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will give consideration to the siting of aluminium-using industries in the North-East and the Bedlington, Blyth area, in order to take full advantage of the possibilities to be created for expanding employment in the event of the siting of an aluminium smelting plant in the North-East;(2) if he will examine the possibilities of the immediate siting of aluminium-using industries in the North in order to take advantage of the opportunities offered by the supply of aluminium from Norway aided by the tariff-free agreements made possible by United Kingdom membership of the European Free Trade Association.

I will certainly consider any proposals for establishing aluminium-using industries in the North-East which firms may wish to put forward. There is, however, at present a surplus of aluminium fabricating capacity in this country.

Advance Factory, Sunderland

58.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make a further statement on the advance factory in Sunderland which is at present unoccupied.

We are continuing our efforts to find a suitable occupant for this factory.

Exports And Imports (Overseas Sterling Area)

61.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will publish a table showing United Kingdom exports to the overseas sterling areas as a percentage of the total overseas sterling area imports and United Kingdom imports from the overseas sterling area as a percentage of total United Kingdom imports, respectively, for each of the years 1946 and 1956.

In 1956 imports into the Overseas Sterling Area, as then composed, from the United Kingdom were 32 per cent. of the Area s total imports; imports into the United Kingdom from the Area were 32 per cent. of total United Kingdom imports. On the same basis figures for 1946 were 32 per cent. and 45 per cent. respectively.

Investment Grants (Newspaper Society)

59.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will, as a matter of urgency, hold a further meeting with the Newspaper Society to discuss the position of the Press under the investment grants procedure.

The position has already been explained to the Newspaper Society but I am prepared to see them if this would be helpful.

Commonwealth Preference

62.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will give details, as far as possible, of the value of Commonwealth preference received by and given to this country on its trade in the earliest year or period of years following the end of the last war and in the latest year or period of years to date.

Evaluations of preferences are difficult, but articles in the Board of Trade Journal of 11th June and 31st December, 1965 compared estimates of the average incidence of preference on the trade both ways in 1961–62 with the results of an earlier study for 1948.

Machine Tool Industry (Investment Grants And Allowances)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will take steps to initiate more selectivity in the making of investment grants and allowances to the machine tool industry, to discriminate against the import of foreign tools and their installation.

No. It would be contrary to our international obligations to discriminate against foreign tools and it would not be in the best interests of British industry to discourage it from buying the tools best suited to its purposes.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what percentage of the grants and allowances which were made by his Department for the purchase of machine tools, were spent on imported tools and their installations.

Gross National Product (Scotland)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what percentage of the gross national product of Scotland was exported in each of the last five years.

Industrial Development Certificates

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many industrial development certificates have been refused

ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT FROM INDUSTRIAL BUILDING COMPLETED FOR MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY FOR WHICH INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATES WERE ISSUED
Industrial building completed inEmployment ExchangeEast Killbride
ScotlandAreas of Hamilton, Larkhall and BlantyreEmployment Exchange Area
MalesFemalesMalesFemalesMalesFemales
19515,6009208802502,650350
19525,8502,420
19535,3301,330
19544,8702,240902009201,730
19553,0401,590
19564,3404,910
19574,4701,310NoneNone320None
19586,3902,78013030
19595,8901,89014090
19604,5403,0602104608050
19603,8503,910330750
196212,8003,840280180250230
19637,0202,720660820
19645,6505,310820170370520
19658,3004,470410430
19669,9808,880560420360240
1967 (first six months)5,4102,970

Notes:

1. Employment expected to arise when projects are fully manned, as estimated by applicants.

2. Owing to the risk of diclosing details of individual projects which are confidential annual figures cannot always be given.

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many of the 10,900 estimated jobs for men in Scotland arising from the issue of 253 industrial develop- in Scotland during each of the last two years; and if he will break down the figure by counties.

New Jobs (Scotland)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will list separately the number of new jobs made available in the constituency of Hamilton and in Scotland in each of the years 1951 to 1967, inclusive.

Information on the number of new jobs created in the Hamilton constituency is not available but the additional employment which applicants for industrial development certificates estimated would arise from buildings completed for manufacturing industry in Scotland and in the employment exchange areas of Hamilton, Larkhall and Blantyre, which together largely comprise the constituency, is given in the table below. In view of the travel-to-work pattern between the constituency and East Kilbride, similar information for the latter employment exchange area is also included.ment certificates have already been made available.

But it is likely that many of the 253 projects referred to, for which industrial development certificates were issued between 1st December, 1966, and 30th November, 1967, have not yet been completed.

New Factories, Scotland

asked the President of the Board of Trade how many firms have set up factories in Scotland since 1966; and how many men and women, respectively, they employ.

In the first six months of 1967 (the latest period for which the figures are available) 80 new projects or extensions for manufacturing industry for which industrial development certificates have been issued were completed in Scotland. They are estimated by the applicants for the certificates to provide, when fully staffed, 5,410 jobs for males and 2,970 for females.

Goods (Misleading Labelling)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will take steps to prevent misleading labelling of goods as to country of manufacture so that goods made in Scotland, England and Wales, respectively, are clearly labelled accordingly.

It is an offence to mark goods with any false or misleading indication as to the place or country in which they were made or produced. There is nothing to prevent manufacturers in these countries from marking their products with the country of origin.

National Exhibition Centre

asked the President of the Board of Trade what progress has been made in finding a site, and establishing an exhibition centre up to international standards, near London.

My noble friend the Minister of State has been studying the problem of finding a suitable site for a National Exhibition Centre with the assistance of a committee including representatives of commerce and industrial bodies, the Greater London Council and Government Departments. We hope soon to he able to announce a decision on whether or not the Government feel able to go ahead with the construction of a National Exhibition Centre.

Knitwear (Imports)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will take steps to restrict the import of knitwear into Great Britain, in view of the need to encourage the trade of the knitwear industry.

No. This is an expanding growth industry and I see no case for protective action.

British Embassies (Scottish Products)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what information is supplied to British embassies abroad regarding the potential of Scottish exportable goods.

The Government information services supply British missions abroad with suitable material with which to obtain publicity for the achievements and potential of British industry. Scottish products are, of course, covered by this service.

Aviation

Third London Airport

60.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of reductions in Government expenditure and United States restrictions on foreign travel, he will reconsider the urgency of the need for a third London airport.

It is too early to judge how the factors mentioned by the hon. Member may affect the timing of the need for a third London airport but they are not likely to make any significant difference to it.

Abbotsinch Airport

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the cost of equipping Abbotsinch Airport with radar.

asked the President of the Board of Trade why Abbotsinch Airport was closed when the radar failed there recently.

There has been no radar failure at Abbotsinch not has the airport been closed recently. Diversion of certain aircraft to Prestwick took place on Friday, 19th January, in conditions of low visibility but this was because the Instrument Landing System, which would normally have made the diversion unnecessary, was out of action because of gale damage.

Turnhouse Airport

asked the President of the Board of Trade what plans he has for the development of Turnhouse Airport.

Current plans include the provision of a second runway and of a new terminal building and related area. The timing of these developments remains to be decided in relation generally to the need for economy in public expenditure and particularly, as regards the runway, to decisions now pending on the composition of the B.E.A. fleet.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what is the estimated cost of equipping Turnhouse Airport with radar.

Ministry Of Defence

North Atlantic Treaty Organisation

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the total foreign exchange cost of United Kingdom forces associated with the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation since its creation in 1949.

The only forces for which foreign exchange costs can be isolated are those in West Germany. Taking account of German offset payments the net cost since 1949 is estimated to be about £350 million.

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the total cost of United Kingdom forces associated with the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation other than foreign exchange costs since 1949.

I regret that this information is not available. The functional costs of B.A.O.R. only, in the years 1966–67 and 1967–68, have been estimated at £169 million and £180 million respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many United Kingdom officers and other ranks are on the staff of the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation headquarters in Brussels.

Tiger Class Cruisers

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the future plans for the Tiger class cruisers.

I have nothing to add to what has already been said on this subject in the Statements on Defence Estimates, 1966 and 1967.

Raf Installations (Gan)

66.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the Royal Air Force installations on Gan will be retained and if he will make a statement on the future of island staging posts in the Indian Ocean.

The R.A.F. staging posts at Gan and Masirah will certainly be required in the shorter term. Their long-term future will be considered in the context of the general review of the rôle, size and shape of the Forces, referred to in the Statement made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 16th January.—[Vol. 756, c. 1582.]

Royal Naval College, Greenwich

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the future of the Royal Naval College, Greenwich.

Defence Budget

68.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will now give details of the principal headings under which the 1969–70 reduction of £110 million in the defence budget will fall.

I have nothing to add to the information given to the House in the Prime Minister's statement of 16th January (Cmnd. 3515).

Armed Services (Recruitment And Re-Engagement)

69.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT monthly recruiting and re-engagement figures for each of the three Services, shown separately, classified by types of engagement, for the year 1967, with comparative figures for 1966.

I would draw the hon. and gallant Member's attention to the returns which are regularly supplied to the Vote Office, of which I am sending him a copy. The returns for the end of 1967 will be supplied as soon as possible.

Royal Navy (Civilian Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence, in view of the fact that the total number of vessels today is 114 against 542 in 1914, and the number of Admiralty officials and clerical staff today is 33,547 as compared with only 4,366 in 1914, plus 8,013 dockyard officials and clerical staff today against 3,249 in 1914, whether he will reduce the number of non-fighting men in his employment.

It is unrealistic to make any assumptions on a stark comparison of the number of ships and the number of non-industrials. Ships and their weapon systems today are of a completely different order of complexity from those in 1914. This is of direct relevance since the bulk of the Navy's civilian supporting staff are engaged in the fields of research, design, production and maintenance.Control of civilian numbers is a major preoccupation of the Ministry of Defence. The number of civilian supporting staff in the Navy now stands at its lowest point since the end of the Second World War and is still reducing.

All Arms Training Area, Sennybridge (Sheep Grazing)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the number of sheep and the graziers who have licences to allow sheep to graze on the All Arms Training Area, Sennybridge, Breconshire for the last three financial years; and whether a record is kept of the number of sheep killed each year through training exercises.

The following is the information:

SheepGraziers
1964–6533,725131
1965–6633,838131
1966–6733,845131
The Answer to the second part of the Question is "Yes".

Aircraft Carriers (Modernising, Refitting And Repairing Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish a table showing the total sum spent since October, 1964, on the refitting and modernisation of H.M. ships "Ark Royal", "Eagle", "Victorious", "Centaur", and "Hermes", respectively.

The approximate amounts spent since October, 1964, on modernising, refitting and repairing the aircraft carriers has been:

£ million
"Ark Royal"13
"Eagle"4
"Victorious"4
"Centaur"½
"Hermes"
The sum for the "Ark Royal" includes actual expenditure to date during the first year of her current refit.

Magnesium Alloys

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if there will be an increase in the use of magnesium alloy products in future defence projects; and whether he will make a statement;(2) what research is being carried out by his Department into the use of magnesium alloy products in future defence projects; and whether he will make a statement.

An extensive programme of materials research related to defence requirements is undertaken in the appropriate Ministry of Defence establishments and magnesium alloys will continue to be considered wherever they have potential use. However, the very detailed knowledge we already have of these alloys does not encourage me to believe that their use by the Services in the future will be on other than a modest scale.I am writing to my hon. Friend about the points he has raised in his letter of 25th January.

Hms "Matapan"

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has for the conversion for trials or other duties of H.M.S. "Matapan", in view of her having had only a year's operational service since her completion in 1947.

Hong Kong Garrison

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how it is proposed to retain the credibility factor of the Hong Kong Garrison after 1971 without air support; and what plans he has to provide such support to assist the limited internal security forces to be available after that date in the East of Suez area, in view of the need shown for aircraft in internal security operations in the past few years.

We shall keep our forces in Hong Kong at the level we consider appropriate in the light of all the circumstances.

Royal Naval Dockyard, Portsmouth (Floating Dock)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he plans to order, in due course, the floating dock whose construction was postponed following the defence cuts imposed in November; and when an order will be placed, in view of the uncertainty in Her Majesty's Dockyard, Portsmouth, as to what further construction work is planned after this year's completion of H.M.S. "Andromeda".

We are looking at the whole of the planned naval new construction programme in the light of our reduced commitments. It is too early to say what the effect on particular projects will be.

Royal Navy (Mediterranean)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the timing of the withdrawal of the remaining naval forces in the Mediterranean will still be maintained in the light of the latest changes planned for the Navy's future deployment.

I am not prepared to discuss detailed plans for keeping naval forces in the Mediterranean. However, I can assure the hon. Member that ships of the Western Fleet will continue to be available for deployment to the Mediterranean as required.

Campaign Medals

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many campaign medals have been struck in the last 10 years for service abroad by British forces.

General Service Medals have had the following campaign clasps:

  • Arabian Peninsula.
  • Brunei.
  • Borneo.
  • Radfan.
  • South Arabia.
  • Malay Peninsula.

Defence Expenditure (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the counties in Scotland where Her Majesty's Government incur local defence expenditure.

In the current financial year local defence expenditure will be incurred in every Scottish county.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the proportion of Defence Budget expenditure spent in Scotland; and how it is distributed.

In 1965–66, the most recent year for which such information is readily available, about 6 per cent. This is distributed roughly as follows: one-third on personnel; three-sevenths on research, development and production; one-sixth on works and lands and one-fourteenth on miscellaneous other expenditure.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish figures giving a breakdown of that part of the Defence Budget expenditure which is spent in Scotland.

Figures for the year 1965–66 are approximately as follows:

£ million
Personnel40
Research, Development and Production55
Works and Lands20
Miscellaneous Other Expenditure10
These sums represent, in the main, payments to prime contractors in Scotland and the total pay of Servicemen stationed and civilians employed in Scotland. They do not reflect the effect of remittances of pay to and from Scotland or of subcontracting by prime contractors.

Nuclear Base, Holy Loch

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will set up an inquiry to consider the advisability of retaining the nuclear base at Holy Loch beside a densely populated area of Scotland.

No. The Holy Loch site was chosen only after careful study of all the operational and safety considerations. Strict precautions are taken to prevent any risk to health or safety.

Beira (Naval Patrol)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what effect the withdrawal of the remaining British defence commitments east of Suez in 1971 will have on the Beira patrol, in view of the logistic problems that will arise in maintaining it after the closure of the Singapore base.

The maintenance of the Beira patrol is not dependent on logistic support from the Singapore base.

Defence Operational Analysis Establishment (Studies)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration is given at his Department's research establishment at West Byfleet to civil and technical aid options, when considering options of defence analysis in any potential theatre of war including the developing world.

The Studies undertaken at the Defence Operational Analysis Establishment are directed towards achieving the most efficient use of military resources.

Simonstown (Naval Support)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government towards the retention of naval support facilities at Simonstown after 1971, in view of the representations by the British shipping industry that a British naval presence should be retained East of Suez.

We shall continue to make use of the facilities made available under the Simonstown Agreement so long as they are required.

Head Of Defence Sales (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the number of employees on the staff of the Arms Salesman, their individual grade and seniority, their technical and commercial qualifications, and their salary level.

The staff of the Head of Defence Sales comprises 197 Civil Servants and 6 Service Officers. Their salaries range from about £700 per annum to £8,000 per annum. The staff include clerical, executive, typing, administrative, technical, retired and serving officers, all of whom have the qualifications appropriate to their respective posts.

Pressurised Water Reactors

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what approaches have been made to him by industrial firms to release information on the Royal Navy's research work into pressurised water reactors; and what reply he has sent.

Defence Research

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will name the commissions or surveys he has appointed since October, 1964, concerned with the problems of defence research, and name the chairmen or members of such commissions, who are brought in from outside his Department.

Details for inquiries reporting to the Defence Research Committee are as follows:

Committee/Sub-Committee/Working Party

Chairman (showing appointment when inquiry began)

Independent Members (showing appointment when inquiry began)

Date of Report

Sub-Committee on Research and Development for Anti-Submarine Warfare.Dr. J. C. Kendrew, Medical Research Council, Molecular Biology Department.Professor Sir Edward Bullard, Cambridge University.April,
Sir William Cook, Atomic Energy Authority.1965
Professor H. Bondi, University of London.
Dr. R. C. Keynes, Medical Research Council, Agricultural Research Council.
Space Review CommitteeProfessor H. Bondi, University of London.Professor B. H. Flowers, University of Manchester.September, 1965
Sir Gorden Sutherland, University of Cambridge.
Mr. F. W. Page, British Aircraft Corporation.
Dr. E. Eastwood, Marconi.
Professor P. A. Sheppard, University of London (Imperial College).
Armoured Warfare Sub-Committee.Professor J. L. M. Morrison, University of Bristol.Professor P. L. Krohn, University of London.December 1965
Mr. Stafford Beer, Science in General Management Ltd.
Conventional Armaments Working Party.Professor B. H. Flowers, University of Manchester.Professor H. Bondi, University of London.January, 1967
Professor W. D. M. Paton, Oxford University.
Professor D. W. Holder, Oxford University.
Dr. W. N. Lomer, Atomic Energy Research Establishment.
Dr. R. D. Keynes, Institute of Animal Phisiology.
Professor A. Stratton, College of Aeronautics.
Personnel and Anti Personnel Research Working Party.Professor P. L. Krohn, University of Birmingham.Dr. J. P. Bull, Birmingham Accident Hospital.February, 1967
Professor G. C. Drew, University College.
Dr. R. C. Norton, Medical Research Edinburgh.
Professor J. Drever, University of Edinburgh.
Professor Sir Lindor Brown, Oxford University.
Working Party on Materials Research.Professor A. H. Cottrell, Cambridge University.Mr. L. Grainger, Richard Thomas and Baldwin Ltd.April, 1967
Dr. L. Rotherham, Central Electricity Generating Board.
Professor C. E. H. Bawn, University of Liverpool.
Professor J. G. Ball, Imperial College of Science and Technology.
Professor A. J. Kennedy, College of Aeronautics.
Dr. P. Murray, Atomic Energy Research Establishment.
Dr. B. J. A. Bard, National Research Development Corporation.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will name the projects since October, 1964, which, once started, have been referred back to him for reconsideration by the Weapons Development Committee.

It is not the practice to disclose the recommendations made to Ministers by their official advisers.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what machinery he has to make sure that research projects undertaken by defence research establishments remain relevant to changing military requirements.

The Defence Research Committee is responsible for keeping the defence research programme under review to ensure that it is geared to defence needs within the resources available.

Anglo-French Projects Board (Membership)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the membership of the Anglo-French Projects Board.

The Anglo-French Projects Board consists of representatives of the operational, technical and administrative sides of the Ministries of Defence and Technology, together with their French opposite numbers.

Defence Studies (Universities)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration he has given to placing contracts for work on defence operational analysis with universities; and if he will make a statement.

Agreements with universities to carry out longer term research in aid of defence operational analysis work are made wherever appropriate. Two studies, involving exploratory work of interest to the study of land warfare, are at present being undertaken at Newcastle and Nottingham Universities; in addition, the Defence Operational Analysis Establishment has frequent less formal contacts with University faculties.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what action he has taken to interest universities in defence studies.

Arrangements have been concluded with certain universities to create an additional post in an existing faculty to specialise in the defence aspects of its discipline: five such appointments have so far been made at Aberdeen, Edinburgh, London (King's College), Oxford (All Soul's College) and Southampton. Two further appointments are currently under consideration.Up to six fellowships are being awarded annually to selected senior officers and officials to allow them to pursue research, or a course of advanced study, at a university or a similar academic institution. Four fellowships have been awarded for the current academic year, three at London (University College) and one at Oxford (St. Antony's College). Defence fellows for the academic year 1968–69 will be selected shortly. These fellowships are expected to prove a useful, long-term investment to both the Ministry of Defence and the universities concerned.Other links are also being developed with universities in the social sciences. Machinery has been established to bring defence lecturers, defence fellows and universities in general into a closer relationship with the Ministry of Defence, to acquaint universities with the problems of defence, and to enable them to make a fuller contribution to their solution. Senior officers, officials and university representatives have participated in a number of study conferences and seminars on particular aspects of defence policy and an increasing number of such joint studies are planned for the future.

Transport

Transport Bill

70.

asked the Minister of Transport what is her estimate of the cost to the persons concerned in Scotland of the financial aspects of the Transport Bill; and if she will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Moray and Nairn (Mr. G. Campbell) on 17th January, 1968.—[Vol. 756, c. 1763–4.]

Road Accidents (Mud)

asked the Minister of Transport if she will give the numbers of accidents, fatal and otherwise, that have occurred during each of the past four years, which can be attributed to the heavy deposits of mud on roadways by vehicles on all kinds of work; and if she will now introduce further measures to ensure that owners of these vehicles have the wheels and tyres cleaned before they enter a public highway.

I regret that this information is not available.The Highways Act, 1959, makes it an offence to deposit anything on the road which is a danger or nuisance to road users, but we do not consider that a regulation requiring vehicle owners to have their wheels and tyres cleaned before entering the public highway would be enforceable.

Ice-Cream Vending Vans (Chimes)

asked the Minister of Transport what representations she has received from the Association of Municipal Corporations requesting more powers for local authorities to control the nuisance caused to night workers, elderly and sick people by the playing of musical chimes on ice-cream vending vans during the day time; and what reply she has sent.

None. The powers whereby local authorities can control nuisance from noise derive from the Noise Abatement Act. 1960. That is the concern of my right hon. Friend the Minister of Housing and Local Government.

asked the Minister of Transport whether her proposed regulations to control noise nuisance emanating from motor vehicles will include provision to control the use of musical chimes on ice-cream vending vans.

No. The use of chimes on a motor vehicle can provide an amenity of importance to members of the public and is already controlled by the Noise Abatement Act, 1960 and the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations, 1966.

Abnormal Loads Charge (Aberdeen)

asked the Minister of Transport if she is aware that Messrs. Barry, Henry and Cook Limited of West North Street, Aberdeen, spend approximately £18,000 a year on the transport, mostly by road, of large and overhanging commodities unsuitable for carriage by containers or by railway, and that the present provisions in the Transport Bill will damage this type of employment in Aberdeen; and what are her plans to avoid this loss to the trade, industry and employment there.

We are aware of the effect which the abnormal loads charge will have on firms such as this. I would remind my hon. and learned Friend that in the debate on the Transport Bill on 20th December, my right hon. Friend agreed to consider whether and if so how, the effects of the abnormal loads charge on firms in development areas could be mitigated.

London Transport (Organisation And Control)

asked the Minister of Transport when she intends to publish her proposals for the future organisation and control of London transport.

My right hon. Friend expects to publish a White Paper when she has finished her consultations, probably after Easter.

Roads

"D" Ring Road

71.

asked the Minister of Transport if she will now state her plans in connection with the proposed "D" Ring Road for Greater London.

I assume my hon. Friend is referring to proposals for the northwest sector of the "D" Ring Road. The five local authorities whose views we are awaiting on the alignment suggested by the Greater London Council have said it will be at least the end of February before they will be in a position to express their views.

New Road Bridge (Sunderland)

72.

asked the Minister of Transport what proposals she has received about the construction of a new road bridge over the River Wear in, or just west of, Sunderland.

A new road bridge over the River Wear at North Hylton is included in the current programme as part of the proposed Sunderland By-Pass, and consultants have been appointed to design the bridge.

New Construction (Northern Region)

75.

asked the Minister of Transport what was the cost and mileage of new road construction in the Northern Region for the year 1963–64 and the year 1966–67.

Expenditure on the construction of new roads in the Northern Economic Planning Region in 1963–64 was about £4 million and in 1966–67 about £18 million. Records of the mileages of new road construction are not readily available.

Yorkshire And Humberside Region

asked the Minister of Transport if she will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT all road works in the Yorkshire and Humberside Region, other than repair and maintenance, which will be excluded from the 1968–69 programme as a result of Command Paper No. 3515.

LineDate of ConsentDate of Closure
Edinburgh (Princess Street)-Leith North30.4.62
Edinburgh (Waverley) suburban (Haymarket Central to Niddrie North Junction)30.4.62
Rosewell and Hawthorden-Waverley (Rosewell-Hardengreen Junction)30.4.62
Langholm-Riddings Junction-Carlisle27.2.6415.6.64
Ayr-Dalmellington27.2.646.4.64
Kilmarnock-Darvel27.2.646.4.64
Elgin-Lossiemouth27.2.646.4.64
Fraserburgh-St.Combs28.2.643.5.65
St.Boswells-Berwick-upon-Tweed28.2.6415.6.64
Kilmarnock-Ardrossan28.2.646.4.64
Stirling-Perth11.5.6415.6.64
Gleneagles-Crieff-Comrie25.5.646.7.64
Banff-Tillynaught25.5.646.7.64
Edinburgh (Princess Street)-Kingsknowe25.5.646.7.64
Edinburgh-Musselburgh15.7.647.9.64
Glasgow (Queen Street)-Kirkintilloch15.7.647.9.64
Dumfries-Stranraer17.7.6414.6.65
Coatbridge-Dumbarton23.7.645.10.64
Aberdeen-Fraserburgh28.7.644.10.65
Maud-Peterhead28.7.643.5.65
Ballinluig-Aberfeldy9.9.643.5.65
Aviemore-Craigellachie8.9.6418.10.65
Dumfries-Kirkcudbright9.2.653.5.65
Leven-St.Andrews11.2.656.9.65
Aviemore-Forres24.3.6511.10.65
Hamilton-Strathaven/Coalburn25.3.654.10.65
Dunblane-Crianlarich14.7.651.11.65
Killin Junction-Killin21.7.651.11.65
Aberdeen-Ballater31.8.6528.2.66
Cart Junction-Browhill Junction (Lochwinnoch loop)22.12.6527.6.66
Tayport-Newport East14.1.6631.3.66
Connel Ferry-Ballachulish21.2.6628.3.66
Stanley Junction-Forfar-Kinnaber Junction30.11.664.9.67
Arkleston Junction-Renfrew Wharf29.3.675.6.67
Castlehill Junction-Parkhouse Junction (Ardrossan Town Station)24.10.671.1.68
Edinburgh (Waverley)-Corstorphine25.10.671.1.68
Larbert-Alloa3.11.6729.1.68
Grangemouth Branch Junction-Grangemouth29.12.6729.1.68
This represents a total route mileage of 583 miles.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Dorset, South (Mr. Evelyn King) on 23rd January.—[Vol. 757, c. 90.]

Railways

Closures (Scotland)

asked the Minister of Transport if she will list those railway lines in Scotland which have been closed from April, 1962 to the latest convenient date; and how many miles of line have been closed down.

The following railway lines in Scotland have been closed from April, 1962 to passenger traffic.

Ports

Port Of Liverpool

asked the Minister of Transport what amount of money has been loaned to the Port of Liverpool by the Government; and what is the period for which the money has been borrowed and the rate of interest that is payable on it.

asked the Minister of Transport what amount of expenditure has been authorised under Section 9 of the Harbours Act, 1964 on development in the Port of Liverpool.

My right hon. Friend has authorised the basic works for the Seaforth scheme, the total cost of which is expected to amount in the end to about £33 million. Other major works authorised are estimated to cost £5,678,000.

Port Of London

asked the Minister of Transport what amount of money has been loaned to the Port of London Authority by the Government; and what is the period for which the money has been borrowed and the rate of interest that is payable on it.

My right hon. Friend has agreed to make available to the Port of London Authority loans to cover that part of the cost of projects totalling £19,405,000 which is not met by port modernisation grant. Rather over £10½ million has been taken up at rates of interest varying between 6¾ per cent. and 7¼ per cent., and is repayable over 40 years.

asked the Minister of Transport what amount of expenditure has been authorised under Section 9 of the Harbours Act, 1964 on development in the Port of London.

The estimated cost of major projects authorised amounts in total to £25,610,000.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Food Imports

76.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to increase imports of essential food from countries which have devalued and to reduce imports from those which have not.

None. I am sure traders need no encouragement from me to take maximum advantage of changes in competitive conditions and discriminatory action by the Government would be contrary to our international obligations.

Ware Potatoes (Price)

77.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the average price of ware potatoes in the major market centres of the country over the last six weeks; and to what extent this price has exceeded the guaranteed price.

The average price paid to producers for ware potatoes in the United Kingdom for the six weeks ending 20th January is provisionally estimated at about £14 4s. per ton. The guaranteed price relates to the season as a whole and is £14 10s. The average price for the whole of the season so far is provisionally estimated at about £14 12s. per ton.

Stock Rearing (Antibiotics)

78.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce regulations to restrict the use of antibiotics in stock rearing until further research has been undertaken into the effects of such procedures on human health.

No. This is not necessary; the use of antibiotics is subject to control under the Therapeutic Substances Act, 1956.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what were the findings of the Scientific Advisory Panel investigating the problem of multiple drug resistance caused by the use of drugs and antibiotics in animal husbandry; what regulations he intends to introduce; and if he will make a statement.

Our Scientific Advisory Panel has considered the possible indirect effect of using antibiotics in agriculture, including resistance of micro-organisms to these substances. The Panel has advised that antibiotic resistance has always existed and it is one of the reasons why a wide range of antibiotics has been needed to control infections. Antibotic resistance may become a problem if it interferes with the use of antibiotics in therapy.2. The Panel, while not suggesting any undue restrictions on the use of antibiotics in agriculture, considered that more information should be obtained and that the effectiveness of present control measures should be examined if the use of antibiotics in agriculture were creating or would be likely to create potentially serious problems. In particular, the Panel recommended that the fullest possible collaboration between the appropriate veterinary and medical authorities should be further encouraged to facilitate establishment of the facts about the possible links between micro-organisms isolated from animal or human subjects with special reference to antibiotic resistance.3. This last recommendation is in line with a recommendation made by a Joint Committee of the Agricultural and Medical Research Councils which considered the use of antibiotics in animal feeding-stuffs. The Joint Committee has recommended that an appropriate body should consider the evidence about the use of antibiotics in animal husbandry and veterinary medicine, and its implications in the field of public health. This recommendation has been accepted in principle and will be discussed with the other Departments concerned but such discussions have had to be delayed during the current outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease.4. The recommendations of our Scientific Advisory Panel will be brought to the attention of the body to be set up to examine the evidence about the use of antibiotics.5. The use of antibiotics is subject to control under the Therapeutic Substances Act, 1956. In general they can be used for animals only on the prescription of veterinary surgeons, but regulations permit three specified antibiotics to be used at very low level as additives in the feed of pigs and poultry only. Antibiotics not scheduled under the Therapeutic Substances Act but for direct sale to farmers are subject to notification under the voluntary Veterinary Products Safety Precautions Scheme.6. It would be premature to consider making further regulations until the evidence about the use of antibiotics has been reviewed.

Foot-And-Mouth Disease (Compensation Taxation)

79.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the outcome of his consideration of the effect of taxation on compensation paid to farmers who have suffered during the current outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease.

This matter is still under discussion with the National Farmers' Union and the Inland Revenue. I hope that an announcement will be made shortly.

Northern Ireland Farmers (Production Costs)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has formed of the increased production costs to farmers in Northern Ireland as a result of devaluation; and whether he will make a statement.

It is not practicable to isolate devaluation effects on costs incurred by farmers in Northern Ireland or in the United Kingdom as a whole.

Agricultural Support (Cost)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of the latest estimates he has made of the agricultural subsidies for the United Kingdom for 1967–68, together with comparable figures for the previous year.

Following are particulars of the latest estimates of the cost of agricultural support in the United Kingdom in the financial year 1967–68 for which provisions have been made in the Civil Estimates, Class V, Votes 3, 4 5 and 6, with comparable figures for the outturn in the financial year 1966–67.

I. FARMING GRANTS AND SUBSIDIES

£ million

latest estimate of outturn 1967–68

actual outturn 1966–67

1. General Fertilisers Subsidy32·430·0
2. Lime Subsidy5·26·4
3. Grams for Ploughing-up Grassland2·85·7
4. Field Drainage and Water Supply Grants4·53·7
5. Grants for Improvement of Livestock Rearing Land1·01·0
6. Grants for Improvement of Hill Land0·1
7. Calf Subsidy23·124·7
8. Hill Cattle and Hill Sheep15·815·5
9. Beef Cow Subsidy3·52·5
10. Winter Keep Grants4·83·7
11. Silo Subsidies0·10·2
12. Grants for Farm Improvements12·311·1
13. Agricultural Investment Grants7·0
14. Grants for Improvement of Farm Structure
15. Grants to Small Farmers2·12·3
16. Farm Business Records Scheme0·4
17. Grants to Rabbit Clearance Societies0·50·4
18. Other Grants0·10·1
Total I115·7107·3

II. IMPLEMENTATION OF AGRICULTURAL PRICE GUARANTEES

£ million 1967–68

£ million 1966–67

1. Cereals:—
Wheat and Rye10·813·5
Barley24·129·2
Oats and mixed corn7·36·7
——42·2——49·4
2. Fatsto:—
Cattle44·319·6
Sheep10·68·9
Pigs12·35·7
——67·2——34·2
3. Eggs20·618·0
4. Wool8·13·7
5. Potatoes1·83·5
Total II139·9108·8
III. OTHER SERVICES
Payment to the Exchequer of Northern Ireland1·91·6
Totals I, II, III257·5217·7
IV. ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES (Estimate)
Applicable to I and II only10·910·3
TOTAL ESTIMATED COST OF AGRICULTURAL SUPPORT268·4228·0

Details of the original estimates of the cost of agricultural support were included in Table VI of the memorandum by the Financial Secretary to the Treasury on the Estimates 1967–68 (Cmnd. 3227) and in Appendix V of the Annual Review and Determination of Guarantees, 1967 (Cmnd. 3229).

Local Government

Building Regulations Advisory Committee (Hardboard)

80.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why, in connection with the provisions of the Building Regulation B3, the Building Regulations Advisory Committee of his Department ignored the advice and evidence of the Forest Products Research Laboratory and of the Building Research Station in connection with the use of hardboard for certain building purposes; and whether, in view of the fact that the latter two organisations are independent research stations conducted by Her Majesty's Government, he will arrange for this matter to be further reviewed at an early opportunity.

The Building Regulations Advisory Committee took fully into account the advice and evidence of the Forest Products Research Laboratory and the Building Research Station. They considered, however, that the conditions necessary to make hardboard satisfactory for the purpose envisaged were not capable of effective enforcement.

Northampton (New Town Designation)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is his decision on the proposed designation of Northampton as a new town.

I have decided to proceed with the expansion of Northampton under the New Towns Act. The decision letter has just been issued, and I have sent a copy to the hon. Member, together with a copy of the report of the Inspector who held a public local inquiry into objections last October. Designation will cover 19,952 acres, including

ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF DWELLINGS LACKING CERTAIN AMENITIES: APRIL, 1966 (ENGLAND AND WALES)
EnglandWales
Amenity lackingThousandsPercentage of all dwellingsThousandsPercentage of all dwellings
Fixed bath2,1601518021
Hot water tap1,7601213015
Internal water closet2,8702025029

Commonwealth Affairs

South-East Asia (Commonwealth Conference)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will now take the initiative in calling a conference of the Commonwealth countries concerned with the defence of South-East Asia.

the existing town of Northampton and this is some 1,328 acres less than the area proposed in the draft designation order.

Land Commission Levy (Revenue)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what net revenue he now expects to derive in 1968–69 from the levy under the Land Commission Act.

The estimated net revenue from betterment levy in 1968–69 will be included in the Financial Statement.

Housing

Dwellings (Lack Of Certain Amenities)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is his estimate of the number of homes in England and Wales, respectively, without bathrooms, hot water supplies, or internal lavatory systems; and what proportion each is of the total stock of houses in England and Wales, respectively.

The table below gives estimates of the number of dwellings in England and in Wales which were without fixed baths, hot water taps, or internal water closets in April, 1966. The estimates are based on the 1966 Census of Population and Housing.

As I said in reply to a similar question on 24th January, the proposal for such a conference came originally from the Prime Minister of Malaysia in July of last year and he repeated the suggestion to me when I met him in Kuala Lumpur on 8th January. I then took the initiative in putting the proposal before the other Governments I visited. I also said that we would be ready to take part in a conference. I think the discussions on this proposal can now be best pursued through diplomatic channels.

Beira (Naval Patrol)

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs if he will have the naval blockade of the port of Beira extended to cover the port of Lourenço Marques.

Education And Science

Primary And Secondary Schools, Derbyshire (Free Milk)

82.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total cost of providing free milk in primary and secondary schools, respectively, in Derbyshire; and how many gallons this comprises.

The estimated cost in 1967–68 of providing free milk in the County of Derbyshire is £170,700 for 553,800 gallons in maintained primary schools and £66,600 for 215,900 gallons in maintained secondary schools.

Comprehensive Secondary Education (Derbyshire)

83.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what allocation of money he estimates is required by Derbyshire County Council to establish comprehensive secondary education in the county.

No such estimate is available as plans have not yet been completed for reorganising secondary education in all parts of Derbyshire.

National Theatre (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the estimated cost of the National Theatre; and what part of the cost is borne by the Government.

The Architect's estimate is £7·4 million based on prices ruling in November, 1967. Up to a limit of £7½ million related to costs at tender stage, the Government and the Greater London Council have agreed to share the costs equally, the Council making the site available free.

New Concert Hall, Glasgow

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what Government funds have been offered to the corporation of Glasgow to build a new concert hall.

I understand that the Scottish Arts Council has not yet received any application for help towards the cost of this, although discussions have been held between the Council and the Corporation.

Opera House, Edinburgh

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what Government funds have been offered to the City of Edinburgh to build an opera house.

I understand that the City of Edinburgh is preparing revised proposals. When they are available the Government will consider what assistance it should offer.

Home Department

Major Disasters (Voluntary Organisations)

84.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what provision there will be for voluntary assistance in areas of major disasters such as floods on the winding up of the Civil Defence and Army Volunteer Reserve, Category III, forces.

The help of a number of voluntary organisations will no doubt continue to be available, as in the past, to supplement the work of the police, fire and other regular services.

London Airport (Cats)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the maximum time a cat may be placed in the London Airport kennels by a visitor in transit from the United States before it becomes necessary to quarantine the animal for six months.

Firearms

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will issue a warning about the restriction on possessing shot guns that is to come into force on 1st May; and whether, as regards other weapons, he will circularise chief officers of police asking them to accept any firearms or ammunition unlawfully held.

On and after 1st May, 1968, owners of shot guns must have shot gun certificates. Those who do not wish to obtain certificates should dispose of their shot guns by 1st May through the trade, or privately, or by handing in unwanted shot guns at police stations. Those who intend to apply for certificates may do so at any police station from tomorrow, and should apply as soon as possible.As for other weapons, I have consulted chief officers of police in England and Wales and, on their advice, I have asked them to ensure that proceedings for unlawful possession are not taken against any person who surrenders an illegally held firearm or ammunition to the police during the period from 1st February to 30th April, 1968. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland has arranged with my right hon. and learned Friend the Lord Advocate that such proceedings will not be taken in Scotland. Firearms and ammunition may be handed in at any police station, and I urge everyone who has an unauthorised weapon to take the opportunity of this temporary amnesty to dispose of it.

Oil Heaters (Safety Requirements)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the safety requirements affecting paraffin heaters on sale to the public at present as laid down in his regulations.

Under the Oil Heaters Regulations, 1962, as amended in 1966, oil heaters must satisfy a number of requirements designed to ensure their safe performance and construction, to minimise the effects of accidental spillage, and to warn the public (by means of a permanent label) against unsafe practices in use. It is an offence to sell in the course of a business any domestic oil heater, whether new or secondhand, which does not comply with these Regulations.

Licensing Act, 1961 (Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to amend Section 6 of the Licensing Act, 1961, so that it shall not be possible to hold a referendum in Wales in 1968 or thereafter.

Immigration Officer (Scottish Case)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why an immigration officer from his Department was sent from England to deal with a case in Scotland involving an Estonian in Aberdeen on 5th December, 1967.

Because there was no Russian-speaking officer nearer at hand at the time.

Economic Affairs

National Economic Development Council (Government Paper)

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will place in the Library a copy of the Government paper on public expenditure presented to the January meeting of the National Economic Development Council.

Bread, Petrol, Tea And Cigarette Prices (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what has been the effect of devaluation on the prices in Scotland of bread, petrol, tea and cigarettes.

My right hon. Friend is not aware of any increases in these prices due to devaluation. In the case of bread, notification of a price increase for the standard loaf has been given and is under examination. If the hon. Member has any information concerning increases in such prices since devaluation, I will examine it.

Commercial Attaches (Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs how long the training period is of commercial attaches before they are posted overseas; what steps are taken during training to inform them fully about the manufactures which Scotland has available for export; and what proportion of training is devoted to this subject.

The commercial training course at present lasts eight weeks. It is designed primarily to instruct those officers who will be engaged in commercial work about export organisations in the United Kingdom and export promotion techniques, and to show them how best they may assist British exporters generally. It does not deal in detail with specific manufactures available for export from any particular part of the United Kingdom.However, after the course and prior to an officer's departure overseas, individual briefings, including visits, are arranged by mutual agreement with the firms concerned to cover exports of particular importance in the market to which he is going. Officers also carry out duty tours in the United Kingdom during leave from their overseas posts which enable them to visit and thus to exchange up-to-date views with exporters. These tours are advertised in the Board of Trade Journal.

Uss "Pueblo" (Statement)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs why he authorised the issue of a statement prejudging the facts concerning the arrest of the United States espionage vessel "Pueblo" off North Korea and giving unqualified support to the actions of the United States.

In reply to a Question during a daily news conference a Foreign Office spokesman said: "We deplore the seizure of a vessel which was in international waters".

As my right hon. Friend told the hon. Member for Bury St. Edmunds (Mr. Eldon Griffiths) on 26th January, on all the evidence available, he was satisfied that the "Pueblo" was seized while on the high seas. The United States Representative at the United Nations has substantiated this fact in the Security Council, citing monitored North Korean naval messages, which indicate not only that the vessel was in international waters but that the North Koreans knew that it was.—[Vol. 757, c. 742.]

Overseas Countries (Ministerial Undertakings)

asked the Prime Minister whether he will now publish the list of undertakings given by Ministers to overseas countries which, as a result of devaluation and its aftermath, can no longer be honoured.

The right hon. Gentleman will already know of published statements and treaties relating to the areas overseas from which we intend to withdraw our forces by 1971. These have been reviewed but it is not possible to say at this stage precisely which of them will need to be qualified or made the subject of fresh negotiation as a result of the Government's recently announced decisions. If, however, the right hon. Gentleman would care to put points relating to any specific statement or undertaking to those of my right hon. Friends concerned or myself, we would be happy to give him such information as we can.

Public Expenditure

asked the Prime Minister if he will set out in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the effect on public expenditure of the alternative measures to those announced by the Government on 16th January, details of which have been sent to him.

If my hon. Friend has in mind the measures proposed by the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Enfield, West (Mr. Iain Macleod) on 17th January, 1968, the information he wants is set out in the table below. I should add that the right hon. Gentleman's proposals were not all specific and certain assumptions have had to be made in order to quantify them. The assumptions too are set out below.

Effect in 1969–70£ million
1. Cuts in the Civil Service
Assume a cut of 5 per cent.30
2. Increase in school meal charges
Assume an increase of 1s. 0d. from 1s. 6d. to 2s. 6d.20
3. Abandon the Industrial Expansion Bill
(a) Industrial investmentschemes—no estimate of expenditure can be made, since it will depend on progress of schemes to be approved by the House of Commons
(b) Other provisions in the Bill10–15
4. Abandon transport measures now before the House
Abandoning the new grants to public passenger transport would save £20 million; but if the new freight charges were dropped, Exchequer revenue would drop by £33 million. Net dis-saving-13
5. Abandonment of S.E.T. and Regional Employment Premium
The effect of abolishing S.E.T., S.E.T. additional payments and R.E.P. would be a net loss to the Exchequer of about £200 million -200
6. Encourage rent rebates on the lines of the recent G.L.C. announcements
These schemes do not provide any public expenditure saving. They are concessions to poorer tenants, which are usually met by a re-distribution of housing subsidies
7. Abolish the Land Commission
(i) Cost of purchase of land would probably be more than offset by loss of levy
(ii) Saving on staff costs3
Net total-145 to -150
or, say, to allow for uncertainties in the calculations-100 to -150

Ministry Of Labour

Retrained Men (Trade Unions)

asked the Minister of Labour which trade unions operating in Scotland have imposed restrictions in Scotland on the acceptance of retrained men.

The Amalgamated Union of Engineering and Foundry Workers (mainly in respect of general fitters and jig tool fitters), and the National Union of Sheet Metal Workers, Coppersmiths, Heating and Domestic Workers.

Unemployment

asked the Minister of Labour if he will list the Scottish employment exchanges which have a percentage of unemployment below the average for the counties of England, specifying for each area the percentage of unemployed persons; and what proportion of the total population of Scotland these exchanges cover.

On 8th January, 1968, the percentage rate of unemployment at each of the following seven Employment Exchange or travel-to-work areas in Scotland was below 2·4 per cent., the comparable rate for England:

Per cent.
Edinburgh group2·3
Forfar2·2
Peebles2·1
St. Andrews and Tayport2·1
Jedburgh and Kelso1·8
Hawick1·6
Galashiels1·2
About one-eighth of all employees in Scotland are estimated to be in these areas.

School-Leavers

asked the Minister of Labour how many school-leavers got apprenticeships in Scotland in the year to the latest convenient date in 1967; how many he estimates there will be in 1968; and if he will break down the total number by counties.

The provisional figures for 1967 are as follows:

BoysGirlsTotal
12,7561,61814,374
I do not expect any substantial change in the figures for 1968.A breakdown of the total number by counties is not readily available.

Government Training Centres

asked the Minister of Labour what is the average waiting time for industrial retraining at Government training centres for Scottish workers.

Averages are misleading, as the waiting time varies considerably from trade to trade and from centre to centre. The present average waiting time for Scottish centres is about four months in engineering trades, six months in construction trades and seven months in other trades.These periods will be progressively reduced as more training places are provided.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the trades for which training is available at the Government training centre, Hull, the number of places, the number of persons being trained and number of vacancies for each trade, respectively.

On 8th January, 1968, the position was as follows:

TradePlaces availableNumbers being trainedVacancies
Bricklaying1616
Carpentry and Joinery16133
Plumbing1616
Capstan Setting/Operating1082
Instrument Fitting and Machining1212
Milling Setting/Operating1010
Sheet Metal Working16133
Motor Vehicle Repairing and Maintenance1212
Storekeeping11
1091018

asked the Minister of Labour what vacancies exist for unemployed men in Hull to be trained in the Government training centre at Leeds, or elsewhere; and in what trades there are vacancies.

Men who want and are suitable for the accelerated training given at Government Training Centres, whether employed or unemployed, may obtain it at any Centre at which the trade of their choice is being taught. Lodgings can be provided for men undergoing training beyond daily travelling distance of their homes. There are now 38 Centres with over 8,000 training places; by early 1970 there will be 48 Centres with 12,200 training places. Vacancies are filled from waiting lists of accepted applicants, and waiting times vary from trade to trade and between one Centre and another.

Remploy Factory, Hull

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the trades for which training is available at the Remploy Factory, Hull, the number of places, number of persons being trained and the number of vacancies for each trade, respectively.

Remploy Ltd. provides sheltered employment for the severely disabled, not training as such. Remploy workers receive training on the job for a period which varies with individual needs, and are paid a wage not a training allowance. At Hull, 173 severely disabled persons are currently employed on machining, assembling, and finishing furniture. There are currently three outstanding vacancies which are due to be filled shortly.

Training Allowances

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the allowances paid to men under training at the Government training center and Remploy Factory, Hull, respectively.

Men aged 21 and over in training at Government Training Centres who are living at home receive a basic training allowance which ranges from £8 a week for a single man to £ 11 a week for a man maintaining a wife and four or more dependent children under the age of 19. Lower allowances are payable to men under 21. Trainees who were in paid employment before commencing training may also be entitled to earnings-related supplements up to a maximum of £7 a week. The basic wage for men at the Remploy Factory, Hull, is £10 11s. 8d.

asked the Minister of Labour if he will state the allowances paid to unemployed men from Hull who are under training at Leeds or other distant Government training centres.

The weekly training allowance for men aged 21 and over, who are in training at Government Training Centres and living away from home in accommodation arranged by or on behalf of my Ministry, ranges from £5 10s. for a single man to £10 5s. for a man maintaining a wife and four or more dependent children under the age of 19. An additional allowance up to a normal maximum of £5 a week is also paid to meet the cost of lodging and part board. Lower basic training allowances are payable to men under 21. Trainees who were in paid employment before commencing training may also be entitled to earnings related supplements up to a maximum of £7 a week.

Skilled Operatives (Retraining)

asked the Minister of Labour if he will undertake a comprehensive survey of the needs of British industry for skilled operatives, industry by industry and area by area; and whether, after completion of the survey, he will consult with industry with a view to instituting retraining on the basis of a combined effort between the Government's retraining facilities and the retraining, with Government assistance, within industrial organisations of workers at present unemployed or about to become redundant.

The Industrial Training Boards were set up with the purpose of establishing the training needs of their industries at all levels and ensuring that there is adequate provision of training and retraining facilities. This is a long term task and the Boards are making progress with it. There is liaison between the boards and the Ministry on the provision of courses in the Government Training Centres.

Redundant Scottish Miners (Retraining)

asked the Minister of Labour how many redundant Scottish miners have been retrained in the last two years to the most convenient date; and how many of these have received their training in Scotland.

This information is not available in respect of the whole field of industrial training. The number of redundant Scottish miners who have completed courses at Government Training Centres in the last two years is 20. All were trained in Scotland.

Public Building And Works

St Andrew's House (Accommodation Cost)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what estimate he has made of the annual cost per employee of the Government office accommodation at Saint Andrew's House.

St. Andrew's House is a Crown building erected some thirty years ago. The annual cost of occupational services is 11s. 3d. per square foot or £69 per member of staff accommodated.

Official Cars (Cost)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will state the cost of the provision of 184 cars for the use of Ministers and civil servants for the year to the last convenient date.

In 1967 the operating costs, together with depreciation, were £302,000. Approximately 2/3 of this is represented by drivers' wages.

Government Offices, Scotland (Cost)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what is the average cost per square foot for occupying, by leasehold or other tenure, accommodation for Government offices in Scotland.

The average rent per square foot of all leased Government office accommodation throughout Scotland is 7s. per annum. This figure excludes occupational services for which an average Scottish figure is not readily available.

Technology

Magnesium Alloys

asked the Minister of Technology (1) whether there will be an increase in the use of magnesium alloy products in future Government engineering and aircraft projects; and if he will make a statement;(2) what research is being undertaken by his Department into the use of magnesium alloy products in future Government engineering and aircraft projects; and whether he will make a statement.

The characteristic limiting the wider use of magnesium alloys is their susceptibility to corrosion and because rigorous standards of corrosion resistance are essential if excessive maintenance or replacement costs are to be avoided, advanced and complex coatings are necessary on magnesium alloys to confer adequate surface protection. Such coatings are in operational use on aircraft and detailed experience with them will be accumulated, but they do not at present provide a complete answer to the problem.No substantial increase in the use of magnesium alloys can therefore be expected unless future research produces alloys and coatings of improved engineering efficiency.

asked the Minister of Technology whether he is aware of the pioneering work done in the use of magnesium alloy products in Government engineering and aircraft projects; and whether he will consider further co-operation in this field with Sterling Metals Limited of Nuneaton.

I am aware of the pioneering work done in the use of magnesium alloy products in Government engineering and aircraft projects and establishments. The Department is always prepared to consider possible co-operation in any field of activity that could prove beneficial to the economy.

Beagle Pup Aircraft

asked the Minister of Technology how many orders, backed by cash deposits, have been received for Beagle Pup aircraft by the Beagle Aircraft Company Limited; what further loan capital will be required for production facilities and working capital to put the Beagle Pup into production; and when deliveries will start.

The Beagle Aircraft Company Limited have not taken deposits on orders for the Beagle Pup in the absence of firm delivery dates. But these will be quoted within the next month, and deposits will then be called for.Advances of working capital are made against the company's programme as a whole, not against individual projects. The Pup is in production: the first aircraft should be completed next month, and deliveries should begin in the spring.

Slough Trading Estate (Report)

asked the Minister of Technology whether he will make available the report prepared at the request of his Department based on a survey of industry in the Slough Trading Estate, which re-commends closer co-operation between Government research development estab- lishments and industry; and if he will make a statement on the steps he has taken to implement the recommendations.

As I explained, in the Answer I gave to my hon. Friend on 11th July, 1967 the report followed a quick pilot survey of the problems of small firms and was not specifically directed to the rôle that establishments might play. It contains information on firms given in confidence which cannot therefore be published.Government research and development establishments already co-operate closely with a wide range of industries and we are working to bring them even closer together. In particular, advisory and consultative services are being extended over a wide front; some specific examples are machine tools standards, non-destructive testing, fluid power and engineering design data.—[Vol. 750, c. 393–94.]

Research Establishments And Industry (Rationalisation)

asked the Minister of Technology what action he has taken to promote rationalisation between his Department's establishments and industry.

The programmes are kept under review by Committees, on which industry is strongly represented. My Department is encouraging the establishments to take on more work for industry on a repayment basis.On the defence and civil aviation sides, joint research programmes have been set up with the Society of British Aerospace Companies, which are aimed at rationalising the location and funding of the work.At R.R.E. an Industrial Applications Unit has been set up to act as a focal point for the application in industry of the results of the establishment's defence research, and further arrangements for this purpose have been or will be made in the former Ministry of Aviation establishments wherever practicable.In general, it is my policy that the programmes of the establishments should be closely related to the needs of industry, and drawn up in collaboration with them.

Photo-Detection (Research)

asked the Minister of Technology what research he does on photo-detectors.

The work programmes at two of my Department's research and development establishments include research on photo-detection. Contracts have also been placed with some of the universities and with industry for research and development in this field. Work at the establishments and universities is mainly concerned with the basic phenomena on which is founded the further development being caned out under contract in industry. The main military applications are in the fields of night vision and improved photo-reconnaissance, but some aspects have important civil potential.

Chiefs Of Staff Military Committee (Departmental Personnel)

asked the Minister of Technology what personnel, responsible to him, regularly attend the meetings of the Chiefs of Staff Military Committee.

Aberdeen Shipbuilding Industry (Devaluation)

asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement on the effect on the Aberdeen shipbuilding industry of devaluation.

It should make them more competitive in relation to overseas shipbuilders.

Microcircuitry (Technical Information)

asked the Minister of Technology if he will name the firms to whom technical information about microcircuitry, gained in the course of research at defence research establishments, has been given for the advancement of their civil and commercial work.

This dissemination is so widespread, that it is not practicable to give a list of firms receiving information.Firms may obtain in several ways technical information on microcircuitry. To illustrate without giving a list of all the methods, the following demonstrate the main dissemination channels:

  • (i) They may acquire information in the course of fulfilling Government research and development contracts.
  • (ii) Unclassified technical reports are freely available to Industry. Reports are also published in the technical journals.
  • (iii) In certain important areas of work (such as semi-conductor devices in the micro- circuitry field) the results of defence research and development contracts let with one firm are distributed to firms in related or similar fields.
  • Ministry Of Health

    Health And Welfare Services

    asked the Minister of Health how much of the saving of £29 million in health and welfare services will be accounted for by reductions in the provision for the elderly.

    asked the Minister of Health how much of the saving of £29 million in the health and welfare services will be accounted for by cutting down on the provision for the physically handicapped.

    asked the Minister of Health how much of the saving of £29 million in the health and welfare services will be accounted for by cutting down on the provision for the mentally handicapped.

    asked the Minister of Health if he will give details of £29 million to be saved in 1968–69 in health and welfare programmes.

    asked the Minister of Health when he will be in a position to give full details showing how the economies announced on 16th January will affect health and welfare programmes.

    As regards the details of the £29 million I would refer the hon. Members to the reply given by the Chancellor of the Exchequer yesterday to the hon. Member for Sutton and Cheam (Mr. Sharples). The nature of the economies has already been indicated by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. The programme of hospital building will go ahead as planned. As to the reduction by an amount averaging £5 million a year in the planned growth of local authority health and welfare capital expenditure, I am asking local authorities to let me know which of their capital projects they wish to be considered for loan sanction within the revised totals. In general I expect provision for the elderly, the physically handicapped and the mentally handicapped to continued at a level not lower than that achieved to date.—[Vol. 757, c. 267.]

    Homeless Families

    asked the Minister of Health what the response has been from each individual local authority in Wales to his circular of September, 1967, entitled, Homeless Families Temporary Accommodation.

    This circular informed local authorities generally about successful methods used in different areas for dealing with the problem of homelessness It did not call for replies from each authority, but officers of the Departments concerned are, where necessary, discussing their services with individual authorities.

    asked the Minister of Health which local authorities in Wales have temporary accommodation for homeless families which does not provide arrangements to keep mother and children together; and, in cases of those who de not, what provisions are being made to implement the recommendations in paragraph nine of his circular entitled, Homeless Families Temporary Accommodation.

    Cardiff County Borough Council admits only mothers, and children under five to its temporary accommodation at Green Farm House, Ely. They are, however, reviewing their policy with the help of officers of the Welsh Board of Health.

    asked the Minister of Health how many homeless families were housed in temporary accommodation provided by local authorities in Wales in 1966 and 1967; and what was the average length of stay.

    Forty at the end of 1966. The corresponding figure for 1967 is not yet available. Information about the average length of stay is not available for either year.

    asked the Minister of Health which local authorities in Wales continue to split up families in temporary accommodation by either accommodating husbands separately, or by not accommodating them at all.

    Glamorgan County Council and Cardiff and Swansea County Borough Councils.

    asked the Minister of Health if he will list the local authorities in Wales which house homeless families in temporary accommodation and which provide communal meals and communal sanitary facilities.

    Denbighshire and Montgomeryshire County Councils and Cardiff County Borough Council.

    Hospitals

    Amenity And Private Beds

    asked the Minister of Health (1) how much public expenditure is spent on informing the public of the existence of amenity and private beds, respectively; and what expenditure is incurred in publicising the details of the scheme and the method of applying;(2) if he will place in the Library examples of all the official promotional material relating to amenity beds and private beds, respectively, in the National Health Service.

    It is for individual hospital authorities with amenity and pay beds to inform the public of these facilities by hospital leaflets or other means. No information is available centrally on the expenditure for this purpose. Samples of leaflets were placed in the Library in June, 1966.

    asked the Minister of Health what is the total number of amenity beds and private beds, respectively, in the National Health Service; what is their average occupancy; and what is the annual financial return from these beds.

    The figures for 1966 (the latest period for which complete statistics are available) are as follows:

    Amenity BedsPay Beds
    Number of beds authorised and designated4,662 Per cent.5,572 Per cent.
    Average occupancy
    (a) by paying patients30·051·4
    (b) by non-paying patients38·315·7
    Revenue for the financial year ended 31st March, 1967 was £342,482 from amenity beds and £6,100,375 from pay beds.Complete statistics for the year 1967, during which pay beds were reduced following the review, are not yet available.

    Patients (Admissions And Lengths Of Stay)

    asked the Minister of. Health how many patients are admitted annually to hospital for more than one week; and what is the average length of stay of these patients.

    Approximately 2,386,000 to non-psychiatric and 158,000 to psychiatric hospitals in 1964, which is the latest year for which the relevant figures are available. The average length of stay of these non-psychiatric patients is about four weeks. Because some psychiatric patients stay a long time an average figure would not be meaningful.

    Geriatric Patients (Waiting Lists)

    asked the Minister of Health what is the present number of geriatric patients on the waiting lists for hospital entrance broken down into counties; and what is the number for the constituency of Hamilton.

    I regret that this information is not available; I understand that there are six geriatric patients on the waiting list for the hospital group which serves Hamilton and elsewhere.

    Overseas Development

    Aid

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development what sums of aid were sent to other countries in each of the two years to the last convenient date; and what was the total amount sent to each country.

    The total for the financial year 1966–67 was £215 million and for the current financial year will be

    Monday to FridaySaturday
    LettersParcelsLettersParcels
    London Head Districts3211
    London Sub-Districts2111
    Other Cities and townsEngland, Scotland and Wales2111
    Rural Areas1 or 21 or 211
    In rural areas parcels are generally delivered with letters; the provision of a second delivery depends on the amount of mail available. Some households in approximately £205 million. The detailed information for each country is very extensive and is provided in respect of 1965 and 1966 in Table 19 of my Ministry's publication "British Aid: Statistics of Official Economic Aid to Developing Countries", which is in the Library of the House of Commons. Figures for 1967 will be published in June.

    Post Office

    Disciplinary Measures And Procedures

    asked the Postmaster-General how recently he has carried out investigations into the disciplinary measures and procedures of the Post Office, and in particular, whether he has satisfied himself that these procedures are in accordance with the elementary principles of justice; and if he will check the ratio of accusations which are followed by signed confessions to those which are not, and give details.

    The disciplinary measures and procedures of the Post Office are under constant review to ensure just treatment.As regards the second part of the Question, it is not possible to furnish details in the form requested by the hon. Member. If she has any particular case in mind I will have enquiry made.

    Postal Deliveries

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will give details of the number of daily postal deliveries on weekdays and on Saturdays in London and other regions of England, Scotland and Wales, respectively.

    Postal deliveries are made as follows:remote places have less frequent deliveries.

    asked the Postmaster-General how long it takes letters to be delivered to the Midlothian burghs of Penicuik, Loanhead, Dalkeith and Bonnyrigg and Losswade, which are posted in London before 6 p.m. in the day; and what change there has been during the last five years.

    Fully paid letters posted in Central London before 6 p.m. on weekdays and 5.30 p.m. on Sundays should be delivered in these areas by first post on the next working day; there has been no change in the past five years.In London sub-districts the last general collection which connects with first delivery is 5.30 p.m.—half an hour earlier than five years ago—and 4.15 p.m. on Sundays.

    Telephone Service

    Storm Damage (Midlothian)

    asked the Postmaster-General how many telephones in the county of Midlothian were put out of commission as a consequence of the recent storm; and what was the average time taken to repair them.

    3,100. I am sorry that information about the average time taken to repair is not readily available, but 45 per cent. were repaired within three days and the service was back to normal by 29th January.

    Ministry Of Power

    Colliery Closures

    asked the Minister of Power (1) how many more colliery closures are to be permitted following his recommendation of the White Paper on Fuel Policy;(2) how many men will be rendered unemployed by the proposed closure of Arley and Kingsbury Collieries in the Warwickshire Coalfield;(3) what discussions were held between the National Coal Board, the West Midlands Economic Planning Council and his Department before the decision to announce the possible closure of Arley and Kingsbury Collieries in the Warwickshire Coalfield.

    The National Coal Board are responsible for decisions about individual pit closures, but I understand the Board have just announced to the Unions that these two collieries are in jeopardy. The Chairman of the West Midlands Economic Planning Council has been informed.

    Shipbuilding Industry (Steel Prices)

    asked the Minister of Power whether he will make a further statement on the question of steel prices for the shipbuilding industry.

    Discussions between the British Steel Corporation and the shipbuilders are continuing and have now reached the stage of detailed joint studies of possible new ways of promoting the common interests of the two industries.

    Coal

    Power Station Supplies (Cost)

    asked the Minister of Power what is the cost per therm of coal supplied to electricity generating stations, for each Electricity Board area of England and Wales.

    The average cost of coal delivered to C.E.G.B. generating stations in England and Wales is about 4·8d. per therm. The cost of coal delivered to individual generating stations is a commercial matter between the C.E.G.B. and its suppliers.

    Social Security

    Disabled Persons (Registration)

    asked the Minister of Social Security if she will amend her regulations to make the registration of disabled people voluntary, so as to remove the necessity of applying the wage stop.

    I would refer the hon. Member to what I said on this subject when replying to Questions about the wage stop on 4th December.—[Vol. 755, c. 952–7.]

    Old People

    asked the Minister of Social Security if she will introduce legislation to give benefits to the old-age pensioners excluded on 5th July, 1948; and how many pensioners so excluded are still alive.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Worthing (Mr. Higgins) on Monday, 4th December.—[Vol. 755, c. 933.]

    Retirement Pensions And Supplementary Benefits (Purchasing Power)

    asked the Minister of Social Security what were the percentage increases in real value of pensions and supplementary benefits from October, 1964, to December, 1967; and how the present purchasing power compares with October, 1964.

    On the basis of the Index of Retail Prices for December, 1967, the figure for retirement pensions is about 19 per cent. and for Supplementary Benefits about 21 per cent. This represents the following increases in purchasing power at December, 1967, prices:

    Retirement pension
    Single person14s.2d.
    Married couple23s.7d.
    Supplementary Benefits
    Single householder15s.2d.
    Married couple24s.6d.

    National Finance

    Hm Stationery Office (Scotland)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many retail sales departments of Her Majesty's Stationery Office there are in Scotland; where these are situated; and whether publications are immediately available in each.

    Her Majesty's Stationery Office has one retail bookshop in Edinburgh. Government publications are usually available at this bookshop as soon as they are published, but the extreme urgency of some Parliamentary publishing, and transport delays during severe weather conditions, may occasionally make simultaneous publication in London and Edinburgh impossible. In addition to this bookshop, there are agents for H.M.S.O. publications in Aberdeen, Dumfries, Dundee, Glasgow and Inverness.

    Social Security (Cmnd 3515)

    asked the Minister of Social Security why the table at the end of Command Paper No. 3515 shows total expenditure on social security at £3,106 million for both 1968–69 and 1969–70, in view of the proposed increase in supple- mentary benefit scales to be introduced this autumn.

    I have been asked to reply.The Table at the end of Command Paper No. 3515, which gives the results of the announced decisions, shows estimates of expenditure on social security of £3,106 million in 1968–69 and £3,126 million in 1969–70, both at 1967 Survey prices. My right hon. Friend the Prime Minister, in paragraph 29 of his statement on 16th January, said that the Government would be watching price rises very carefully and intended in the light of this to raise Supplementary Benefits in the autumn of 1968. An increase in Supplementary Benefit rates attributable to price changes would not affect estimates expressed in 1967 Survey prices, such as those given in the Table in Command Paper No. 3515.—[Vol. 756, c. 1586.]

    Income Tax (Mortgage Interest)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will break down the £180 million Income Tax relief on mortgage interest for private dwellings in 1967–68 into the sums for Scotland, England and Wales, respectively.

    The £180 million is a United Kingdom figure, made up of about £2 million for Northern Ireland, about £6 million for Scotland, about £166 million for England and about £6 million for Wales.

    Olympic Games (Joint Televising Facilities)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make it a condition of his sanctioning of the spending of foreign exchange by the broadcasting authorities for their coverage of the 1968 Olympic Games in Mexico, that the British Broadcasting Corporation and the Independent Television Authority should agree to co-operate in the use of joint technical facilities, particularly in the use of television satellites for transmitting programmes to this country.

    I understand that both the B.B.C. and the I.T.A. are already co-operating in the European Broadcasting Union's arrangements to provide basic coverage of the 1968 Olympic Games.