Written Answers To Questions
Tuesday, 6th February, 1968
Ministry Of Power
European Coal And Steel Community
26.
asked the Minister of Power what is the nature of his discussions with the High Authority of the European Coal and Steel Community; and if he will make a statement.
The Agreement establishing a Council of Association provides for regular exchange of information and consultation on coal and steel matters. The Council recently agreed that discussions on the world steel problems started last year should continue although this is a very wide-ranging and difficult problem.
Steel Prices
39.
asked the Minister of Power whether he will in the national interest issue directions to the British Steel Corporation and the publicly-owned steel companies to refrain from fixing common prices to customers for heavy steel products, in view of the judgment of the Restrictive Practices Court that such fixed prices conferred no public benefit.
No.
British Steel Corporation (Appointments)
44.
asked the Minister of Power what is his policy in regard to the appointment of full-time members of the board of the British Steel Corporation who are on the boards of other nationalised industries.
I am prepared to make such appointments where there are special circumstances to justify them.
National Fuel Policy
45.
asked the Minister of Power if he will now review the national fuel plan, in view of the decision to site an aluminium smelter at Invergordon, together with a coal-fired power station.
No. No decisions have yet been taken on either the siting or the choice of fuel for any aluminium smelter. Even if they had, the factors involved would not of themselves warrant review of national fuel policy.
asked the Minister of Power whether he will make a statement concerning republication of the White Paper on Fuel Policy.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to similar Questions earlier today.
Heavy Fuel Oil (Bulk Users)
asked the Minister of Power (1) what is the price per therm being charged at present to bulk heavy oil users in London and the South-East;(2) what is the average rate of discount per therm granted to bulk heavy oil users in London and the South-East by suppliers on orders in excess of 500 gallons.
The published price of heavy fuel oil (3500 seconds) for minimum bulk loads of 500 gallons delivered in London and the South-East varies according to price zone and is equivalent to either 8·8d. or 9·1d. per therm including tax and temporary surcharge. These prices are subject to rebates and temporary surcharge. These prices are subject to rebates negotiated individually between consumers and competing supplying companies. Rebates given depend on a variety of factors, such as quantity, regularity of supply and quality specification, which together make it difficult to determine a meaningful average.
Electricity And Gas Industries (Conditions Of Employment)
asked the Minister of Power if he will introduce legislation to ensure that the various employing boards in the nationalised electricity and gas industries act as one employer in relation to their employees in the matter of continuity of employment, the payment of wages, salaries and other forms of remuneration and for superannuation purposes.
No. It is already the duty of the Gas and Electricity Councils under the respective Nationalisation Acts to consult with appropriate organisations with a view to the establishment of machinery for the settlement of terms and conditions of employment. Agreements have been concluded in each industry which provide for negotiation centrally on matters such as those referred to by my hon. Friend, though there are some fields in which flexibility is desirable to meet varying local cicumstances.
Ncb And British Steel Corporation (Talks)
asked the Minister of Power if he will make a statement on the talks taking place between the National Coal Board and the British Steel Corporation on the price paid for coal by the latter.
Apart from the normal day-to-day discussions no special talks are taking place.
Oil And Oil Products
asked the Minister of Power what was the total value of exports in respect of oil products over each of the last four years.
£96½ million, £104 million, £111½ million and £115 million.
asked the Minister of Power what is the estimated total increase of costs caused by devaluation on all oil and oil products brought into the United Kingdom.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Members for Cambridge (Mr. Lane) and Honiton (Mr. Emery) earlier today.
Electricity
Power Stations
asked the Minister of Power what offers the National Coal Board have submitted for the supply of cheap coal to produce electricity from thermal power stations to manufacturers submitting proposals for the smelting of aluminium to the Government; and for what tonnage, over what period of years and at what price.
Discussions between the National Coal Board and prospective customers are confidential commercial matters.
asked the Minister of Power whether he estimates that a nuclear power station at Seaton Carew will be able to generate electricity more cheaply than a coal-fired station using coal at a delivered price at 3½d. a therm.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply my right hon. Friend gave him today.
asked the Minister of Power (1) what is the percentage increase in the estimated capital and operating costs of Dungeness B nuclear power station between July, 1965 and the present; and when the station is expected to be operating;(2) if he will state the reasons for the increase in the estimated capital and operating costs of Dungeness B nuclear power station between July, 1965, and the present.
The estimated base-load generating cost (including capital charges and operating costs) has increased by about 25 per cent. since July, 1965. The C.E.G.B. advise that the increase is made up as follows:
| Per cent. | |
| Increase in price levels including the effects of devaluation | 8 |
| Changes in ground rules i.e. the use of 8 per cent. discount rate (in place of 7½ per cent.) and the use of the same rate for interest during construction (instead of 5½ per cent.) | 7 |
| Inclusion of royalty payable to the A.E.A. | 3 |
| Other causes | 7 |
asked the Minister of Power whether, in reviewing his fuel policy, he will take full account of the fact that coal-fired stations require less capital than nuclear stations.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Ince (Mr. McGuire) on 23rd January. The Fuel Policy White Paper (Cmnd. 3438) shows that capital costs, as well as running costs, are fully considered.—[Vol. 757, c. 77.]
Aluminium Smelters
35.
asked the Minister of Power what are the heads of agreement, reached between the Central Electricity Generating Board and those companies or consortia submitting proposals to the Government for the smelting of aluminium for the supply of block quantities of cheap electricity.
The conditions for the supply of electricity on special terms are set out in the Government Statement of 4th October, 1967. These involve a 100 per cent. capital payment for the tranche of capacity earmarked, payment for the cost of grid connection, and payment of an annual charge to cover such items as fuel and operating costs.
37.
asked the Minister of Power, in view of the Government's intention to encourage aluminium smelting, if he will review the cost of electricity available to aluminium smelters in different parts of the world; what price, allowing for capital payments for generating plant, the Generating Board are able to offer large block users of electricity on long term contracts for aluminium smelting; and what subsidy is necessary to make this price competitive with that available in other countries.
Precise information about the cost of electricity to aluminium smelters in other countries is not obtainable. The general basis on which electricity may be supplied to special consumers in the United Kingdom is set out in the Government Statement of 4th October, 1967, but the financial details of individual offers or contracts are commercial matters. The terms negotiated do not, however, involve any subsidy.
Block Tariffs
36.
Shaw asked the Minister of Power what is his policy with regard to the cheap block tariffs for large users of electricity so that they may purchase supplies at realistic rates and not loaded rates.
Block tariffs are normally available only to domestic consumers and the smaller commercial, industrial and miscellaneous users. For large users, maximum demand tariffs or special agreements are generally considered by Electricity Boards to be more appropriate.
Abnormal Vehicular Loads Tax
asked the Minister of Power (1) what estimate he has made of the increased cost to the nuclear power programme of the abnormal vehicular loads tax;(2) what estimate he has made of the increased cost to the Central Electricity Generating Board power raising programme through the abnormal vehicular loads tax.
None so far. The Board is considering the effect of these provisions on its costs.
Coal
Pit Ponies
47.
asked the Minister of Power how many pit ponies are at present used in coal mines; what is the average length of stay underground; and at what rate is the phase-out of these animals proceeding.
The National Coal Board at present uses about 2,500. Their average working life is from ten to fifteen years. I am informed by the Board that their use underground will have virtually ceased by 1970.
Industrial Coal Contracts
asked the Minister of Power if he will give a general direction to the National Coal Board not to supply coal to private industry at a rate below that charged to publicly-owned industry.
Industrial Coal contracts are negotiated on a commercial basis between individual enterprises and the National Coal Board.
Distributed And Undistributed Stocks
asked the Minister of Power whether he will make a statement on distributed and undistributed coal stocks at 1st February, 1968, and the aggregate tonnage entailed.
On 27th January total distributed and undistributed stocks of coal were 15·8 million tons and 265·6 million tons respectively.
Coal Depots (Concentration)
asked the Minister of Power what progress has been made on the concentration of coal depots since the report of the National Board for Prices and Incomes; and if he will list the areas affected.
I am advised by the National Coal Board that since the Report of the National Board for Prices and Incomes the number of coal concentration points for rail-borne fuel has increased overall by 55.The breakdown is as follows:
| N.C.B. Sales Regions | Concentrations |
| Scottish | +19 |
| Northern | +8 |
| Yorkshire | +9 |
| North Western | +11 |
| North Midlands | +4 |
| Midlands | -8 |
| South Wales and West of England | -1 |
| London and Southern | +13 |
Coal Derivatives (Research)
asked the Minister of Power what progress has been made in research into coal derivatives; and if he will make a statement.
There is continuing research effort by the National Coal Board, the British Coal Utilisation Research Association, the British Coke Research Association and the Coal Tar Research Association. For an account of the progress I would refer my hon. Friend to the published Reports of the four organisations.
Hospitals
Disused Medical Instruments And Human Remains (Disposal)
asked the Minister of Health what instructions and/or advice he has given regional hospital boards in respect of the dumping of disused medical instruments, medical records, and human remains.
Advice has been given on the prevention of the spread of infection and on the confidentiality of hospital medical records. Hospital authorities are well aware of the requirements in disposing of such items and it is for them to make appropriate arrangements.
Hospital Land (Sale)
59.
asked the Minister of Health how far it is the practice of his Department to authorise the disposal of land belonging to his Department at less than the best price obtainable commercially if he sees fit.
The practice is to sell land at market value. The only exceptions considered are cases in which a change of ownership would produce a direct benefit to the hospital service, and such cases are extremely rare.
60.
asked the Minister of Health if, in the case of the disputed land between his Department and the Tynemouth Corporation, he will give authority for a resale to the council at a price equal to the amount paid to the council under the amortisation arrangement.
No. The ownership of this land is not in dispute so far as I am aware. When surplus hospital land is sold to local authorities it is the practice to do so at the market price as assessed by the District Valuer.
Hospital Beds (Wales)
asked the Minister of Health what was the total number of hospital beds available in Wales in 1967; and how this figure compares with the total number available in 1957.
26,098 on 30th September, 1967; 26,873 on 30th September, 1957.
Waiting Lists (Wales)
asked the Minister of Health what was the average period of waiting for persons in Wales requiring hospital treatment during 1967; and what was the corresponding average waiting period in 1957.
I regret that the information is not available.
Non-Teaching Hospitals
asked the Minister of Health how many non-teaching hospitals have been taken over by teaching hospitals in the last five years.
In this period eight non-teaching hospitals have been designated as parts of teaching hospitals.
asked the Minister of Health how much the running costs of non-teaching hospitals which have been taken over by teaching hospitals have increased in the last five years.
A total of 13 Regional Hospital Board hospitals have been designated as parts of teaching hospitals since the National Health Service began, but comparable figures are available for only 12 of them. The totals for the 12 are as follows:
| 1961–62 | … | … | £3,633,729 |
| 1966–67 | … | … | £5,696,814 |
asked the Minister of Health if he will instruct hospital authorities to consult with the appropriate trade union when it is proposed that a non-teaching hospital is to be taken over by a teaching hospital.
Hospital authorities have already been advised of the value and importance of early consultation with staff and their organisations about all proposed reorganisations.
St Mary's Maternity Hospital, Manchester (Tiles)
asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that imported foreign vitrified floor tiles were used in the construction of St. Mary's Maternity Hospital, Hathersage Road, Manchester, when British made tiles could have been supplied at a comparable price; and whether he will give directions to ensure the use of British materials for hospital construction wherever possible.
The floor tiles, which cover less than 5 per cent. of the total floor area of St. Mary's Maternity Hospital, Manchester, are Swedish imported non-slip carborundum tiles; no equivalent tile of British manufacture was available.In accordance with general Government purchasing policy British materials are used in hospital construction whenever suitable quality is available at competitive prices.
Ministry Of Health
Dental Technicians (Selective Employment Tax)
51
asked the Minister of Health whether he is aware that single technicians as opposed to several technicians employed by dentists are subject to the Selective Employment Tax; and whether he will take steps to remedy this anomaly.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to him yesterday by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Labour.—[Vol. 758, c. 4.]
Immigrants (Medical Tests)
52.
asked the Minister of Health what progress has been made with the scheme for medical tests for immigrants in their own countries before leaving for the United Kingdom.
Arrangements have now been completed in thirty Commonwealth countries and dependent territories for the medical examination there of prospective immigrants to this country; arrangements in other countries are in train.
Prescriptions
53.
asked the Minister of Health what controls exist for regulating the cost of prescriptions; and in what way are they exercised by his department in respect of the general practitioner.
Factual material is sent to doctors to help them to prescribe efficiently, and each general practitioner is periodically sent comparative analyses of his prescribing, which may be discussed with him by one of my Regional Medical Officers. Remuneration may be withheld where there are continued excessive prescribing costs; but such cases are rare.
asked the Minister of Health if he will give the total number of prescriptions dispensed each year from 1962 to date with the total cost in each year; and what is the estimated figure to 1970–71.
The number and cost of prescriptions dispensed by chemists in England and Wales is as follows:
| Number of Prescriptions Millions | Total Cost£ million | ||
| 1962 | … | 196·626 | 86·918 |
| 1963 | … | 205·462 | 95·934 |
| 1964 | … | 209·375 | 105·577 |
| 1965 | … | 244·346 | 126·004 |
| 1966 | … | 261·954 | 138·369 |
| 1967 (estimated) | … | 271 | 146·3 |
It is not possibe at this date to give a reliable estimate to 1970–71.
asked the Minister of Health (1) if he will give an estimate of the revenue which will accrue in Wales from the proposed imposition of prescription charges;(2) if he will give an estimate of the number of persons in Wales who will be affected by the proposed prescription charges; and what proportion these form of the whole population.
The Welsh component of the estimated saving of£25 million a year in Great Britain is about £1¾million. When the criteria for exemption from the charges have been fully worked out, I should expect upwards of 40 per cent. of the population to be exempt: and of those who pay the charge some will qualify for a refund.
Drugs (Proprietary Equivalents)
54 and 55.
asked the Minister of Health (1) whether he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of drugs on the pharmaceutical list and their equivalent proprietary brands together with the respective prices;(2) what proportion of proprietary drugs prescribed during 1967 was the equivalent of drugs on the pharmaceutical list.
The official works of reference contain monographs applicable to both proprietary and non-proprietary preparations. I regret that it is not practicable to identify with certainty those proprietary preparations which have exact unbranded equivalents.
Cardiac Emergency Service
58 and 61.
asked the Minister of Health (1) as coronary disease is the main cause of death in this country and elsewhere, if he will establish an experimental cardiac emergency service in Central London based on a teaching hospital that already possesses a cardiac department and an intensive-care ward;(2) if he has considered the experiment, details of which have been sent to him, carried out in Belfast where, prior to the introduction of a mobile intensive-care unit, 102 of 414 patients brought to hospital were dead on arrival, whereas in the 15-month period after the provision of such a unit none of 312 patients died in transit; and if he will introduce a similar experiment.
I have studied the account of the Belfast experiment. The possibility of an experiment in this country, serving a defined area, is being explored.
Cervical Cancer (Screening)
57.
asked the Minister of Health when he now expects routine screening for cancer of the cervix to be available to all women at risk in England and Wales.
I cannot yet add to the reply I gave my hon. Friend on 23rd October but I expect to be able to make an announcement very soon.—[Vol. 751. c. 347.]
Sainsbury Committee (Report)
56.
asked the Minister of Health what evidence he has of the undesirability of drugs placed in Category D in the Sainsbury Report; what percentage of these 782 preparations were combination drugs; and what percentage of all prescriptions were for these 782 drugs.
The Committee did not name the drugs in question and I have no evidence other than that published in their report.
Pharmaceutical Products (Price Reductions)
62.
asked the Minister of Health what action he has taken to reduce the price of pharmaceutical products to the National Health Service, in accordance with the recommendations of the Sainsbury Committee and other representations made to him.
Where appropriate I am constantly seeking and often securing price reductions under the existing arrangements agreed with the industry. I am now reviewing these arrangements in the light of the recommendations of the Committee.
Local Authority Health Services
asked the Minister of Health what estimate he has made of the total cost to local authorities of providing health visitors, home-nursing and other home-help, respectively, under part III of the National Health Service Act 1946, in 1964, 1965 and 1966, and of the amounts which were recovered by local authorities from the persons availing themselves of such help.
The figures for health visiting, home nursing and domestic help are as given below. The National Health Service Act, 1946 does not provide for charges to be made for health visiting or home nursing. Other local health services also benefit the patient in the home, for example, the mental health domiciliary services.
| £ million | ||||
| 1964–65 | 1965–66 | 1966–67 | ||
| Health Visiting | … | 6·2 | 7·0 | 7·5 |
| Home Nursing | … | 10·6 | 12·0 | 12·7 |
| Domestic Help: | ||||
| Gross Cost | … | 15·3 | 17·2 | 18·9 |
| Charges | … | 1·7 | 1·8 | 1·8 |
Measles (Vaccination)
asked the Minister of Health what plans he has to introduce vaccination against measles; and if he will make a statement.
My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland and I have received from the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation a recommendation, based on trials conducted by the Medical Research Council, that children up to age 15 who have not had the disease should be protected against measles by vaccination. We shall shortly be consulting the local authority associations and others concerned with a view to the general introduction of this vaccination in the Spring under existing powers. Initially there will be a small additional cost, but the suffering and family distress caused by measles will be reduced, as will the burden that the disease throws on the treatment resources of the National Health Service. We expect the savings eventually to overtake the cost of the vaccination campaign.
Medicines (Naming)
asked the Minister of Health if he will estimate the saving in cost to the National Health Service if each medicine had only one name for purposes of medical practice.
I regret that such an estimate cannot be made.
Local Authority Building Programmes
asked the Minister of Health what effect the economy measures will have on local authority building programmes of old people's homes and hostels under Part III of the National Assistance Act, in the county borough of Gateshead.
I cannot say how any local authority's programmes will be affected until I have completed the inquiries of authorities to which I referred in my reply on 31st January to the right hon. Member for Reigate (Sir J. Vaughan-Morgan) and others.—[Vol. 757, c. 360.]
Local Government
Green Belt (Birmingham)
65.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he will give further information about the confirmation of the Green Belt to the south of Birmingham.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 28th November, 1967.—[Vol. 755, c. 43.]
Rate Equalisation (Report)
66.
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he has received the report of Professor Illersic on rate equalisation; and what action he proposes in view of the necessity for any changes to take place by April, 1968.
Yes. I have considered the proposals in the report, which were commended to me by the London Boroughs Association, and I have today written to the Association, the Common Council of the City of London and the Greater London Council giving my decision.The scheme has many valuable features, but had it been possible it would have been preferable had there been more time available for further study between the presentation of the report and the date by which, for reasons of the local authorities' financial timetable, a decision had to be given. As however a substantial majority of the local authorities concerned are in favour of the scheme and as a decision is urgently needed to enable the Greater London Council's precepts for 1968?–69 to be fixed, I have decided that it would not be right for me to impede its introduction. I propose therefore to implement the proposals so that the first instalment of the equalisation scheme and the associated transfer to the Greater London Council of a larger proportion of the needs element of the rate support grant will come into effect for 1968–69.The report has given rise to some misgivings. The first instalment of the Ilersic proposals would not, however, have the severe results which the full proposals would have on the rates in certain boroughs. I shall ask the Association. the Common Council of the City of London and the Greater London Council to co-operate over the coming months in considering whether any modifications should be made or some alternative scheme might be preferable in later years.
Services (Expenditure Cut)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will give details of the cut of£26 million in spending on environmental services in 1968–69 that was announced in Command Paper No. 3515.
The figure of£26 million applies to Great Britain. The corresponding figure for England only is£23 million.The expected distribution of the cut is as follows:
| £ million | ||
| Water and sewerage | … | 2 |
| Other public health services | … | 1 |
| Parks and recreational facilities | … | 5 |
| Town centre redevelopment | … | 10 |
| Miscellaneous | … | 5 |
| 23 |
Drill Halls (Sports Centres)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government which are the 20 drill halls in England and Wales for which loan sanction has either been ordered or promised in respect of their acquisition by local authorities for use as sports centres.
The following are the drill halls concerned:
- Bradford Road, Batley.
- Silverwell Street, Bolton.
- Queen's Square, Brighton.
- Artillery Barracks, Burnley.
- Ashgate Road, Chesterfield.
- Mount Road, Chingford.
- Chesterfield Road, Clay Cross.
- Nelson Street, Dalton-in-Furness.
- Rotherham Road, Eckington.
- Hemnall Street, Epping.
- Burt Terrace, Gateshead.
- Old Bedford Road, Luton.
- Springfield Road, Northfleet.
- Shirley Road. Ripley.
- Bolingbroke Street, South Shields.
- Manchester Road, Southport.
- Booth Street, Stoke-on-Trent.
- Flixton Road, Urmston.
- Riverview Road, Wallasey.
- Amwell End, Ware.
Land Clearance And Reclamation (Northern Region)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he has taken in response to the opinion of the Northern Economic Planning Council to delegate work on the clearance of land and reclamation to his Department's regional offices.
These proposals are under urgent consideration and I will let my right hon. Friend know when a decision has been reached.
Water Charges (Halesworth, Beccles And Southwold)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is aware of the increase in water charges now being levied in the Halesworth, Beccles and Southwold areas; whether these charges have his approval; and what action he plans to take regarding them.
I am aware of the increases. The charges do not require my approval.Statutory water undertakers are expected to have regard to the criteria for price behaviour set out in the White Paper on Prices and Incomes Policy after 30th June, 1967 (Cmnd. 3235).
Planning Blight
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will set up a committee to inquire into hardship caused by planning blight.
No. I would refer the hon. Member to my speech on Second Reading of the Town and Country Planning Bill on 31st January.
Ipswich (New Town Designation Order)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he will publish his draft new town designation order for the expansion of Ipswich.
My proposals are being published today. The next step will be to hold a public inquiry to hear objections to the draft designation order.
Housing
Council Houses, Huddersfield (Rent Increases)
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why the issue of the increase in council house rents in Huddersfield was not referred to the National Board for Prices and Incomes along with others.
Because it was not practicable to refer the four hundred or so authorities who increased rents in the past year. The 22 authorities named in the reference are ded to provide the Board with a rane examples of recent rent increases.
National Building Agency
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the total cost of the National Building Agency in each year since its inception; and how much revenue was received by the Agency in fees in each of these years.
The figures, on a cash basis, are as follows:
| Period | Expenditure | Fees | |
| £ | £ | ||
| 16.3.64–31.3.65 | … | 173,568 | 550 |
| 1965–66 | … | 482,395 | 9,525 |
| 1966–67 | … | 704,110 | 157,772 |
Development Areas
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many houses were built in development areas in Great Britain in 1967; and what proportion of these were built by industrialised methods.
Approximately 89,000 dwellings were completed in development areas in Great Britain in 1967, of which about 21 per cent. were built by industrialised methods.The proportion of private dwellings built by industrialised methods is not known but it is very low: the proportion for local authority dwellings completed in the development areas in 1967 was 32 per cent.
Priority Areas
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many council houses were built in priority areas in 1967; and what is the target for public sector housing in the priority areas in 1968.
Priority authorities in England completed nearly 75,200 dwellings in 1967. As they started 86,500 in 1967, I expect a further rise in completions in 1968 but it is too soon to make a forecast.
Gateshead
asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, in view of the shortages of rented accommodation and the number of houses due for slum clearance in the county borough of Gateshead, if he will exclude this authority from anyion in house-building targets.
My right hon. Friend has emphasised that the position of the priority housebuilding authorities (of which Gateshead is one) will be safeguarded. As part of the normal review of forward programmes, he proposes to settle by discussion with the main house-building authorities what it would be practicable for them to build over the next two to three years in the light of the priority to be given to slum clearance, to meeting shortages of rented accommodation in the conurbations, and especially to the priority areas.
National Finance
Income Tax
68.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action is to be taken to recover sums paid by the Inland Revenue to immigrants arising cut of fraudulent claims for Income Tax relief and to prevent or limit such fraudulent claims in the future.
I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Harrow, West (Mr. John Page) on 2nd February.—[Vol. 757, c.434.]
70.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the criteria for deciding which inland revenue district will raise assessments for taxation in any particular case.
Assessments on business profits are normally made in the tax district in which the business is carried on. Most employees' tax affairs are dealt with in the district dealing with the area within which they are employed but there are a number of exceptions to this general rule. A notable exception is that in Scotland a start will be made later this year on the programme for handling employees' affairs at the new Computer Centre at East Kilbride.
Public Expenditure (Examining Committee)
67.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will recommend the appointment of a permanent Royal Commission comprising individuals outside Parliament and the Civil Service to undertake a continuous examination of public expenditure and to report at six-monthly intervals.
No.
Overseas Payments
69.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated total of annual remittances by coloured immigrants from Great Britain to their own countries; and what steps he proposes to take to curb this drain on sterling.
I do not intend to analyse or control overseas payments, on the basis of the race or colour of the United Kingdom residents concerned.
£ Sterling
71.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the purchasing power of the£ sterling in the United Kingdom on 31st December, 1967; and what was its purchasing power on 31st January, 1968.
An estimate of the change between December, 1967 and January, 1968 in the internal purchasing power of the£ sterling is not yet available.
Overseas Investments
72.
asked the Chan-of the Exchequer what study he has made of the type of investment up to£50,000 or 50 per cent. of the total investment, whichever is more, the prospective benefit from which to the United Kingdom balance of payments will equal or exceed the total cost of the investment within 18 months and will continue thereafter; and if he will make a statement.
Experience over a long period shows that modest investments in overseas sales organisations and similar projects frequently produce receipts to this country from additional exports exceeding the amount invested within a very short time. Many reports from overseas posts, and from industry, have suggested that more encouragement is needed for investments of this type as part of our export drive.
Economy (Regulating Methods)
73.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will institute an inquiry into other methods of regulating the economy between Budgets in addition to, or replacement of, existing regulators.
I am constantly reviewing methods of regulating the economy and would be glad to consider specific suggestions from the right hon. Gentleman or anyone else.
Devaluation
74.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what contingency plans by Her Majesty's Government were available to be put into effect on devaluation.
Detailed contingency plans were drawn up for carrying through the devaluation operation itself, for securing international support and for certain measures restraining demand to be announced at once. It was always envisaged in these plans that further measures would be needed, the precise extent of which would be based on the development of the economy after devaluation.
Civil Service
75.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to what extent the qualities of wives are considered before male civil servants are appointed or promoted.
Not at all in the Home Civil Service.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total number of persons employed in the administrative, executive, professional and linked classes of the Civil Service in London and Cardiff, respectively; and what are the total annual salaries earned by them in the two capitals, respectively.
I regret that this information could only be made available at a disproportionate expenditure of time and money.
Bank Rate
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the fact that a reduction in the Bank Rate from 6 per cent. to 2 per cent. greatly assisted the recovery from the 1931 economic crisis, if he will now reduce drastically the Bank Rate from 8 per cent. and so encourage faster industrial expansion.
I can say nothing about future changes in Bank Rate.
Incomes (Increase Norm)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in respect of which periods since 15th October, 1964, there has been an officially recommended norm for increases in wages and salaries; what it has been in each case; by how much in each period the actual increase in wages and salaries has exceeded the norm, expressed at an annual rate both in percentage and in money terms; and in respect of each period, what is his estimate of the increase in the standard rate of income tax required to yield an increase in revenue equal to the amount by which the rise in wages and salaries exceeded the norm.
Cmnd. 2639 of April, 1965, laid down a norm of 3 to 3· per cent. as the appropriate figure for the average annual increase in money incomes per head. The norm was nil from July, 1966, to June, 1967 (although in the later period some increases in incomes could be justified in exceptional circumstances and increases deferred from the period of standstill also took effect).Since 1st July, 1967, the policy has been that no one is entitled to a minimum increase and all increases have to be justified in accordance with the criteria of the current White Paper (Cmnd. 3235).Between March, 1965, and June, 1966, the Ministry of Labour monthly index of average earnings increased at an average rate of about 7 per cent. or£650 million per annum more than the norm. Between June, 1966, and June, 1967, the index increased by 2 per cent., corresponding to about£400 million per annum. To raise these gross amounts in income tax in a full year would have required an increase of about 2s. 2d. for 1965–66 and 1 s. 7d. for 1966–67 in the standard rate of income tax which applied to the whole of company profits as well as to personal incomes in 1965–66, but only to personal incomes in 1966–67.
Public Works Loan Board (Interest)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total sum of interest paid by local authorities on loans from the Public Works Loan Board and other Government Departments in 1967 in England, Wales, and Scotland, respectively.
In 1967 English and Welsh authorities paid£169·9 million to the Public Works Loan Board in respect of interest on their outstanding debt to the Board. Figures for the two countries are not separately compiled. In addition£586,026 was paid by way of interest on loans from the Minister of Transport on advances towards the cost of the Dartford Tunnel and the First Mersey Tunnel.Over the same period, Scottish local authorities paid£24·8 million in respect of interest to the Public Works Loan Board and£632,000 by way of interest on loans from the Secretary of State for Scotland, nearly all of which was in respect of interest on advances towards the cost of the Forth and Tay road bridges.
Duty-Free Shops (Aircrews)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why overseas aircrews are not allowed to buy articles on sale at duty-free shops in the United Kingdom.
Aircrews on foreign flights do not go abroad in quite the same circumstances as travellers in general.
Commonwealth Affairs
Malta
76.
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs (1) if he will make a statement on his recent talks with the Prime Minister of Malta;(2) if he will make a statement about the future of the dockyard in Malta.
My talks with the Malta Prime Minister have been about matters of mutual concern. The main subject discussed was the future of the Malta Dockyard.Although the question of the ownership of the dockyard is primarily a matter for the Malta Government we realise the importance of finding a satisfactory settlement. The two Governments will remain in close touch about this problem.
Singapore (Defence Agreement)
77.
Giles asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he proposes to enter into a formal defence agreement with the Government of Singapore.
No such proposals are under consideration.
Rhodesia
8.
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what was the financial cost to the United Kingdom, in the most recent available period of 12 months, of sanctions against Rhodesia; and what was the value of the consequential loss of trade to the United Kingdom during that period.
I would refer the hon. Member to the figures I gave to the hon. Member for Chigwell (Mr. Biggs-Davison) on 15th December, 1967. These figures take into account any loss of trade to the United Kingdom.—[Vol. 756, c. 239–40.]
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will move to appoint an all-party committee to visit Rhodesia with a view to ascertaining the feeling of all sections of the community in that country, as to the future constitutional position and in order to try to bring an end to the present unconstitutional position.
No. I do not think this would be helpful at present.
Zambia
asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has received from Zambia about her fuel and power crisis; what answer he has given; and whether he will make a statement.
My right hon. Friend the Commonwealth Secretary has received no representations but he has discussed the question of petrol supplies with the Zambian High Commissioner. I understand that the recent difficulties arose from the effect of heavy rains on the supply route from Tanzania and am pleased to note that the Zambian Vice-President stated on 30th January that following improvements to the road petrol supplies were coming in again and that the Zambian Government no longer feared that February would be a bad month.
Technology
Nuclear Reactor Programme (Report)
79.
asked the Minister of Technology what is the result of the joint consideration by his Department, the Ministry of Power, the Central Electricity Generating Board and the Atomic Energy Authority of the recommendations of the Select Committee on Science and Technology on the Nuclear Reactor Programme; and what action will be taken to implement the above recommendations and the alternatives set out on pages lxxx-lxxxii of the Report of the Select Committee.
The Committee's Report is a major element in a series of discussions on the future structure of the nuclear power industry and related matters.Complex issues are involved, and my right hon. Friend the Minister of Power and I intend to have more discussions with the industry. I hope to be able to make a statement before the Easter Recess.
Short Brothers And Harland
asked the Minister of Technology if he is aware of the concern among the workers of Short Brothers and Harland concerning the future of the company; what is Her Majesty's Government's policy regarding their holding in the company; and if he will make a statement.
Yes. But the forward work programme is now clear and a financial reconstruction of the Company is being worked out. The company can then look forward to a soundly based future. The Rohr Corporation has expressed an interest in acquiring a holding in Shorts. If a firm proposal materialises, the Government will consider its implications carefully, having regard to the long term interests of the company.
Rae, Llanbedr
asked the Minister of Technology what percentage of the men now employed at Llanbedr are working on civilian contracts; and to what extent the manpower situation at Llanbedr will be affected by the recent defence cuts.
80 per cent. of the men employed at R.A.E., Llanbedr are working for a private contractor but all the work is for defence purposes. It is too early to assess the precise effect of the defence cuts on the manpower situation at Llanbedr but there are no plans for a substantial rundown.
Departmental Work (Royal Navy)
asked the Minister of Technology what was the value of work done for any convenient dates in 1965, 1966 and 1967, by his Department for the Royal Navy.
The value of deliveries to the Royal Navy of equipment purchased by my Department in the financial years 1964–65 to 1966–67 was as follows:
| £ million | |||||
| 1964–65 | … | … | … | … | 61 |
| 1965–66 | … | … | … | … | 77 |
| 1966–67 | … | … | … | … | 73 |
National Gas Turbine Establishment (Naval Wing)
asked the Minister of Technology what was the cost from 1962 to 1967 of the Naval wing of the National Gas Turbine Establishment; and if he will state what is the value of income to the Naval wing of the National Gas Turbine Establishment from contracts within industry.
It would not be in the public interest to publish the information requested in the first part of the Question. There were no cash receipts for work done on behalf of industry.
Hearing Aid Batteries (Price Increase)
asked the Minister of Technology whether he will now refer the price rise in batteries for hearing aids to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave to similar Questions yesterday.—[Vol. 758, c. 31–33.]
asked the Minister of Technology what consideration was given to the special problems of deaf old-age pensioners when the increased price of batteries for hearing aids was under review.
The problems of deaf old-age pensioners were considered. On the best available evidence it seems likely that the great majority use the Medresco hearing aid which is supplied free with its batteries through the National Health Service. Nevertheless, as already announced, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs and I have decided to refer the question of these increased prices to the National Board for Prices and Incomes for examination, and the reference will be made shortly.—[Vol. 758, c. 31–33.]
Computers
asked the Minister of Technology whether he will publish figures for the deliveries, imports and exports of computers for the second and third quarters of 1967, and for subsequent quarters.
Because of the nature of the industry, the figures vary greatly from quarter to quarter and cannot, therefore be taken as an indication of the trend. It had, therefore, been the intention to
| DELIVERIES OF ELECTRONIC COMPUTERS INCLUDING FACTORED GOODS | ||||
| 1967 | ||||
| £000 | ||||
| U.K. Manufactured | ||||
| 2nd Quarter | 3rd Quarter | |||
| Home | Export | Home | Export | |
| Digital Computing Systems* | 8,323 | 4,831 | 12,918 | 6,921 |
| (195) | (195) | (231) | (167) | |
| Analogue and Hybrid Computers† | 226 | 58 | 182 | 57 |
| (32) | (6) | (42) | (8) | |
| Industrial Electronic Control Equipment | 810 | 130 | 538 | 74 |
| Data Transmission Equipment | 411 | 160 | 333 | 171 |
| Peripheral Equipment for computing systems | 3,138 | 3,460 | 4,023 | 2,792 |
| Repair and Maintenance of Customer's equipment | 1,576 | 343 | 2,306 | 251 |
| Computer R & D on Customer account | ||||
| (a) Hardware | 86 | — | 136 | — |
| (b) Software | 11 | — | 29 | — |
| TOTAL OUTPUT | 14,581 | 8,982 | 20,465 | 10,266 |
| Goods sold to other U.K. manufacturers further processing | 1,026 | — | 1,570 | — |
| 1967 | ||||
| £000 | ||||
| Factored | ||||
| 2nd Quarter | 3rd Quarter | |||
| Home | Export | Home | Export | |
| Digital Computing Systems* | 5,801 | 246 | 8,717 | 320 |
| (135) | (5) | (122) | (6) | |
| Analogue and Hybrid Computers† | 37 | — | — | — |
| (1) | ||||
| Industrial Electronic Control Equipment | 15 | — | — | — |
| Data Transmission Equipment | 224 | — | 68 | — |
| Peripheral Equipment for computing systems | 699 | 192 | 754 | 21 |
| Repair and Maintenance of Customer's equipment | — | — | — | — |
| Computer R & D on Customer account | ||||
| (a) Hardware | — | — | — | — |
| (b) Software | — | — | — | — |
| TOTAL OUTPUT | 6,776 | 438 | 9,539 | 341 |
| Goods sold to other U.K. manufacturers for further processing | 863 | — | 703 | — |
publish only annual and not quarterly figures. Nevertheless, because of the considerable public interest in these figures they will be published quarterly in the future. The figures for the fourth quarter 1967 will be published about the end of March, and subsequently for each quarter with a similar delay, which is governed by the time taken by firms to respond to the Ministry's inquiries.
The figures for the second and third quarters 1967 are:
1967
| ||||
£000
| ||||
Total
| ||||
2nd Quarter
| 3rd Quarter
| |||
Home
| Export
| Home
| Export
| |
| Digital Computing Systems* | 14,124 | 5,077 | 21,635 | 7,241 |
| (330) | (200) | (353) | (173) | |
| Analogue and Hybrid Computers† | 263 | 58 | 182 | 57 |
| (33) | (6) | (42) | (8) | |
| Industrial Electronic Control Equipment | 825 | 130 | 538 | 74 |
| Data Transmission Equipment | 635 | 160 | 401 | 171 |
| Peripheral Equipment for computing systems | 3,837 | 3,652 | 4,777 | 2,813 |
| Repair and Maintenance of Customer's equipment | 1,576 | 343 | 2,306 | 251 |
| Computer R & D on Customer account | ||||
| (a) Hardware | 86 | — | 136 | — |
| (b) Software | 11 | — | 29 | — |
| TOTAL OUTPUT | 21,357 | 9,420 | 30,004 | 10,607 |
| Goods sold to other U.K. manufacturers for further processing | 1,889 | — | 2,273 | — |
* Figures in brackets show the number of complete systems sold. | ||||
| † Figures in brackets show the number of computers sold. | ||||
The Overseas Trade Accounts for the second and third quarters of 1967 show that imports, exports and re-exports of computing systems, central processors and peripheral equipment for computers were:
| (£m.) | |||||
Imports
| Exports
| Re-exports
| |||
Systems etc.
| |||||
| 2nd quarter | … | … | 10·8 | 5·8 | 0·6 |
| 3rd quarter | … | … | 9·3 | 4·2 | 0·3 |
| (£m.) | |||||
Imports
| Exports
| Re-exports
| |||
Computer parts
| |||||
| 2nd quarter | … | … | 4·2 | 4·4 | 0·3 |
| 3rd quarter | … | … | 3·9 | 2·5 | 0·3 |
Wales
Prince Of Wales (Investiture Expenditure)
80.
asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the need for reduction in public expenditure, what consideration he is giving to postponing expenditure from public funds on the preparations for the investiture of the Prince of Wales at Caernarvon.
The Earl Marshal and I have the need for economy fully in mind. There will in any case be little expenditure in 1968–69, and that in 1969–70 will be subject to close control.
Economic Situation And Unemployment (Discussions With Tuc)
Q5.
asked the Prime Minister what plans he has to discuss with the Trades Union Congress leaders the economic situation and the problem of unemployment.
I have had a number of discussions with Trades Union Congress leaders in recent months and shall have further discussions whenever necessary on matters of common concern. The economic situation is, of course, regularly discussed by the National Economic Development Council on which both sides of industry are represented.
Leasehold Reform Publicity (Ministerial Responsibility)
Q10.
asked the Prime Minister what steps he is taking to co-ordinate the activities of the Minister of Housing and Local Government and the Postmaster-General in order to give more publicity to the benefit for owner-occupier leaseholders of the Leasehold Reform Act, 1967.
Responsibility for publicity about these matter rests with the Housing Ministers, and it is for them to seek the assistance of others of my right hon. Friends when they feel this to be helpful and necessary.
Prime Minister (Visits Overseas)
Q11.
asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the effect of the effect Government proposals on the United Kingdom's relationship with Australia, he will now make an official visit at an early date.
As the House knows, I had an opportunity for a brief discussion with the present Prime Minister of Australia and other Australian Ministers last December. I have no plans for a further visit to announce today but Her Majesty's Government are, of course, in close touch with the Australian Administration on all levels.
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister how many official visits overseas he has made since October, 1964, on how many occasions he has travelled on such visits by Royal Air Force aircraft; and how often by British civil airline flights.
24, 15 and 9 respectively. The civil flights were all by chartered aircraft.
Commonwealth Prime Ministers' Conference
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister whether a Commonwealth Prime Ministers' Conference is to be held it 1968.
As the House knows, it is for the Commonwealth Prime Ministers to decide collectively when they shall meet. No such decision has yet been taken.
Exploitation Of The Seabed (Review)
Q14.
asked the Prime Minister when he expects the committee of the Cabinet studying the exploitation of the seabed to make its recommendations.
If, as I assume, my hon. and learned Friend has in mind the review announced by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science last July, the Answer to his Question is "Soon".
Vietnam
Q15.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will discuss with President Johnson plans for increasing British aid to the civilian population of South Vietnam, following the recent escalation of the conflict.
I have already told the House that Vietnam will be one of the subjects to be discussed in Washington. I would prefer not to go into more detail now.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Agricultural Industry (Transport Bill)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has now made of the increased costs of agricultural products which will arise from the provisions of the Transport Bill.
It is not possible to make a reliable estimate of the effects of the proposals in the Transport Bill upon the costs of agricultural products.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether the increased costs to the agricultural industry arising from the provisions of the Transport Bill will be taken fully into account at the forthcoming price review.
Consideration of the effects which the Transport Bill when it becomes law, may have on farm costs and the dates from which any such effects may be expected will depend on Regulations yet to be made. Account cannot, therefore, be taken of them in this year's Annual Review.
Meat And Meat Products (Import Ban)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give an assurance that the ban upon the import of meat and meat products from countries where foot-and-mouth disease is endemic will not be raised in respect of any of the countries concerned, unless those countries can show proof that their systems of inspection are such that it is not possible for foot-and-mouth virus in active state to be present in their meat and meat product exports.
I am not at the moment able to say more than I said on this subject during the debate on the Consolidated Fund Bill on 30th January.
Ministry Of Defence
Ayrshire Yeomanry
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received from the Ayrshire Yeomanry to continue with their ancient regiment; and what reply he has sent.
Seven letters and one telegram have been received. The reply said that the future of the Territorial and Army Volunteer Reserve Category III was being discussed with the Council of Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations.
Hull Trawlers (Search Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the cost falling on public funds to arrange for a search to be carried out for the Hull trawlers "St. Romanus" and "Kingston Peridot"; and how much of this it is proposed to recover from the vessels' owners.
The extra cost of flying by Royal Air Force Shackletons specifically related to the search for these two trawlers was about£2,700. Extra costs incurred by naval vessels engaged
| RECRUITING | |||||
| October-December 1963 | October-December 1964 | October-December 1965 | October-December 1966 | October-December 1967 | |
| Men | |||||
| Royal Navy | 1,844 | 1,553 | 1,253 | 1,685 | 1,567 |
| Royal Marines | 177 | 194 | 221 | 213 | 223 |
| Army | 4,797 | 5,455 | 4,817 | 5,534 | 3,478 |
| Royal Air Force | 345 | 1,460 | 1,540 | 1,613 | 1,403 |
| Women | |||||
| Queen Alexandra's Royal Naval Nursing Service | 23 | 33 | 24 | 22 | 21 |
| Womens Royal Naval Service | 264 | 340 | 287 | 328 | 307 |
| Queen Alexandra's Royal Army Nursing Corps | 113 | 88 | 136 | 82 | 98 |
| Women's Royal Army Corps | 599 | 585 | 565 | 571 | 418 |
| Princess Mary's Royal Air Force Nursing Service (see note) | — | — | — | — | 10 |
| Women's Royal Air Force | 255 | 477 | 565 | 553 | 495 |
in the search were negligible. In accordance with long standing maritime tradition no charge is made for assistance given when life may be in danger at sea.
Servicemen's Families (Resettlement Advice)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what official advice is available, and from what sources, for the families of Servicemen returning to civilian life following the present cuts in military expenditure, on adjustment to life in the civilian community.
A great deal of advice and help is given on all aspects of the resettlement of Servicemen and their families in civilian life.
Slaves Island (Dumped Equipment)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the total value of British military and other equipment dumped last November on Slaves Island, off Aden.
I would refer the hon. Member to my speech in the House on 30th January, 1968.—[Vol. 757, c. 1297.]
Recruiting And Re-Engagements
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish a table showing the recruiting figures and the re-engagement figures for each of the armed services for the last quarter of each of the last five years.
Following is the information; the figures for October-December, 1967 are only provisional:
Before 1966, entry for the Princess Mary's Royal Air Force Nursing Service
| RE-ENGAGEMENTS (Men only) | |||||
October-December 1963
| October-December 1964
| October-December 1965
| October-December 1966
| October-December 1967
| |
| Royal Navy and Royal Marines | |||||
| To 9 years | 5 | — | — | — | — |
| 14 years | 229 | 146 | 225 | 204 | 221 |
| 22 years | 398 | 324 | 579 | 398 | 353 |
| Others | 80 | 70 | 82 | 99 | 71 |
| Army | |||||
| To 6 years | 11 | 9 | 4 | 9 | 6 |
| 9 years | 1,011 | 1,087 | 965 | 1,067 | 1,019 |
| 15 years | 475 | 598 | 554 | 729 | 786 |
| 22 years | 132 | 104 | 95 | 102 | 167 |
| Others | 960 | 1,162 | 1,101 | 1,401 | 1,414 |
| Royal Air Force | |||||
| To less than 5 years | 2 | — | — | — | — |
| To 5–8 years | 13 | 9 | 4 | 9 | 4 |
| To 9 or over (other than to 22 years or over) | 217 | 366 | 454 | 397 | 397 |
| Re-engagement for Pension | 719 | 660 | 468 | 401 | 438 |
| Re-engaged personnel re-engaging for a further period | 1 | 8 | 4 | 11 | 5 |
Release Applications
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many officers and men applied for release from each of the armed forces during the last quarter of 1967, and the comparable figures for each of the years 1963, 1964, 1965 and 1966.
Applications from officers were as follows:
| Last quarter of | Royal Navy | Army | R.A.F. | |
| 1963 | … | 32 | 112 | Not available |
| 1964 | … | 63 | 119 | Not available |
| 1965 | … | 49 | 149 | Not available |
| 1966 | … | 76 | 123 | 74 |
| 1967 | … | 79 | 188 | 81 |
Neutron Generators Research (Radiotherapy)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the initiatives taken by his Department to make available to medical authorities concerned with radiotherapy work done in defence research establishments on neutron generators.
The possible application to radiotherapy of the work done at the Services Electronics Research Laboratory
took place at intervals during the year but not during the three months covered by this table.
at Baldock was the subject of direct liaison between the establishment and the Ministry of Health.
Royal Navy Research Establishment, Dounreay (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the annual cost in 1965, 1966 and 1967 of the Royal Navy Research Establishment at Dounreay.
Research and development costs are not disclosed in detail.
Ship-Borne Inertial Navigation Systems (Costs)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the value of work done between 1965 and 1967 on ship-borne inertial navigation systems in Defence research establishments.
Research and development costs are not disclosed in detail.
Microbiological Research Establishment, Porton (Civil Interests)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the external firms and organisations who have had academic or commercial relations with Microbiological Research Establishment, Porton, 1965 to 1967; and what was the value of the commercial relations.
Research has been undertaken on behalf of the Establishment by the Universities of Oxford, London, Liverpool, Birmingham and South Wales, and the Oxford College of Technology. The Establishment has undertaken work of civil interest on repayment for other Government Departments and for the Medical Research Council. No research contracts have been made with firms, but the establishment has made purchases from a wide variety of commercial suppliers. It is not the practice to give the financial value of these commercial relations.
Defence Research Programme
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on the changes in the defence research programme, arising from the Government's announcements on economy.
I have nothing to add to the Prime Minister's Statement in the House on 16th January, subsequently published as a White Paper (Cmnd. 3515).
Education And Science
Welsh Arts Council (Grant)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the average amount per head
| MAINTAINED PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS, ENGLAND AND WALES, AT JANUARY | |||||
| 1963 | 1964 | 1965 | 1966 | 1967 | |
| Junior classes | |||||
| Pupils per teacher* | 28·8 | 28·8 | 28·3 | 28·0 | 27·8 |
| Average size of class as registered | 32·6 | 32·6 | 32·6 | 32·6 | 32·7 |
| Senior classes. | |||||
| Pupils per teacher* | 19·3 | 19·2 | 18·7 | 18·4 | 18·2 |
| Average size of class as registered | 28·5 | 28·4 | 27·9 | 27·6 | 27·5 |
| * Taking account of the full-time equivalent of part-time teachers. | |||||
Secondary School Pupils, Wales
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the approximate percentage of children in Wales during 1967 who, being
of population spent by his Department upon the activities of the Arts Council in Wales in 1967; and what was the corresponding average for England in the same year.
The 1967–68 grant to the Welsh Arts Council represents an average expenditure of 3s. 2d. per head. The corresponding figure for England is 2s. 7d.In the course of the year the Arts Council will make capital grants of£300,000 for specific projects in England and Wales. These have not been taken into account but will not materially affect the averages.
Primary And Secondary Schools (Classes)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage reductions have been made in the size of primary and secondary school classes and the number of pupils per teacher from 1963 to date; and what was the estimate for the average number of, pupils per teacher in 1972 on the basis that the school-leaving age was raised in 1970–71.
The table below gives the answer to the first part of the Question:over the age of 15 years, remained at secondary school, until attaining the age of 16 or later.
In January, 1967, 15-year old pupils over school leaving age in maintained secondary schools in Wales were 44·7 per cent. of the corresponding number of 13-year old pupils two years earlier. With the exception of the relatively small number of those born between April and August who left at Easter 1967, all of the 44·7 per cent. remained in school until attaining the age of 16 or later.
Foot-And-Mouth Disease
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science in view of the fact that 1967 was an exceptional year for mushrooms in areas of the country now affected by foot-and-mouth disease, what steps he has taken to find out what connection there is between exceptional years of mushrooms and foot-and-mouth epidemics; and if he will make a statement.
I am advised that the weather conditions that are favourable to the growth of wild mushrooms—mild, damp, autumn conditions—would also he suitable for the rapid spread of foot-and-mouth disease. There is no reason to suppose a more direct connection between the two; the known mechanisms for the spread of the disease are quite sufficient to account for the present epidemic.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what evidence has been given to him by virologists on the extent to which the present strain of O·1 foot-and-mouth virus has been affected by vaccination practices of countries overseas where the disease is endemic.
I am advised that, while it is theoretically possible for a virus to be modified, in respect of its power to spread by passage through a vaccinated animal, there is no evidence that this has ever occurred with foot-and-mouth virus.
Insect Pests (Control Projects)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the current research projects into the biological control of insect pests to which his Department is giving assistance.
The following is the information:Glasshouse Crops Research Institute: Control of the glasshouse red spidermite with the mite
Phytoseiulus riegeli. Study of the parasites and predators of aphids on chrysanthemum and cucumber in glasshouses. Control of the white-fly in glasshouses.
Pest Infestation Laboratory: Study of Bacillus thuringiensis for the control of insect pests of stored products.
National Vegetable Research Station: Study of natural control of larvae of the cabbage-root fly.
Rothamsted Experimental Station: Study of bacterial and virus diseases of the honeybee; implications of the results on the biological control of insects by diseases. Use of Bacillus thuringiensis to control wax moth in beehives. Fundamental work on insect pheromones.
A.R.C. Virus Research Unit: Use of Polyhedral viruses to control lepidopterous and hymenopterous pests
Monkswood Experimental Station: Study of the value of hedgerows as reservoirs of wild life, including beneficial insects.
Department of Zoology, Cambridge University: Study of virus diseases of insect pests.
Department of Zoology and Applied Entomology, Imperial College of Science and Technology, London University: Co-ordination of chemical and natural methods for the control of aphids.
Department of Agriculture, Leeds University: Study of internal parasites to control insect pests.
Haughley Research Farm: Survey of beneficial and pest-insect populations of an area where no chemical insecticides have been used for at least 30 years: compared with those of neighbouring land subject to spray programmes.
Insect Pathology Unit: Study of the nature and mechanisms of infection of insect pathogens (viruses and rickettsiae) with a view to biological control of pests of forest trees.
Ministry Of Labour
Government Training Centres, Wales
asked the Minister of Labour if he will give an assurance that by the end of 1968 there will be a sufficient number of Government training centres in Wales so as to afford the opportunity of a course of industrial retraining for any person in Wales who requires it.
Before the end of 1968 the third Government Training Centre in Wales is to be opened at Port Talbot. The 845 training places in Wales which will be available when this new centre is fully operational should go a long way towards meeting the needs of persons who want and are suitable for this type of training. A fourth Centre at Wrexham should open by early 1970, and I have now decided to build a fifth centre in West Monmouthshire, to open during the course of 1970.
United Nations (United Kingdom Contributions)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will furnish the figures for the contributions in 1967 by the United Kingdom to the United Nations, its organs, and the specialised agencies.
The following is the information requested:
| £'000 | |
| United Nations Regular Budget | 2,708 |
| Special Accounts: | |
| Middle East Operation (UNEF) | 388 |
| United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) | 1,786 |
| World Food Programme | 410 |
| Cyprus Operation (UNFICYP): | |
| Voluntary Fund | 1,564 |
| United Kingdom contingent | 565 |
| United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees | 120 |
| International Atomic Energy Agency: | |
| Regular Budget | 205 |
| Operational Budget | 39 |
| United Nations Development Programme: | |
| Expanded Programme for Technical Assistance | 1,696 |
| Special Fund | 2,500* |
| United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF) | 400 |
| United Nations Water Desalination Programme | 25 |
| United Nations Trust Fund for South Africa | 14 |
| United Nations Education and Training Programne for South Africa | 36 |
| Specialised Agencies: | |
| Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) | 807 |
| Food and Agriculture Organisation Voluntary Funds | 43† |
| World Health Organisation (WHO) | 1,224 |
| United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (UNESCO) | 733 |
| International Labour Organisation (ILO) | 734 |
| International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) | 182 |
| International Telecommunications Union (ITU) | 132 |
| World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) | 46 |
| Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organisation (IMCO) | 32 |
| Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organisation Headquarters | 34 |
| Universal Postal Union (UPU) | 11 |
| International Development Association (IDA) | 17,028‡ |
| International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) | —§ |
| International Finance Corporation | —§ |
| Asian Development Bank | 714 |
| Total | 34,177 |
| * An additional£18,125 is being sought in the Spring Supplementary Estimates to cover the difference between our pledge ($7,000,000) and | |
the amount paid in November, 1967 ($6,956,500) and also to provide the balance necessary because of devaluation.
† The difference between this figure and that for 1966 is accounted for by the fact that the United Kingdom made a voluntary contribution of vaccine to the value of £100,000 in 1966.
‡This figure represents the drawings in 1967 on the United Kingdom contribution. The annual contribution for the period 1965–1967 was £11,500,000.
§The United Kingdom contributed to the capital stock of IBRD and IFC when these organisations were established; no United Kingdom contribution was made to either organisation in 1967.
Telephone Service
Exchange Site (St, Peter's Church, Wc1)
asked the Postmaster-General why the site of St. Peter's Church, Regent Square, W.C.1, is required for an extension to a telephone exchange; and what representations he has received from the local planning authority.
The capacity of the present telephone exchange in Gray's Inn Road will be exhausted by 1974. We therefore need to build a relief exchange to meet the expanding demand for telephone service in the area. The adjacent site of St. Peter's Church is the only known suitable one which could be made available in time.The Ministry of Public Building and Works, negotiating on our behalf as agents of the Post Office, received objections from the local planning authority to the proposed use of the site for a telephone exchange. A meeting is being arranged with the planning authority to discuss the matter further. We would be willing to build on an alternative site if a wholly suitable one could be found.
Post Office
Building Schemes
asked the Postmaster-General if he will give details of the reductions to be obtained by the postponement of Post Office building amounting to£2 million, announced by the Government on 21st December, 1967.
The figures announced by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 21st December, 1967, contained a typing error which was not noticed. The figure for postal buildings should have been£1 million instead of£2.We are deferring by about a year on average, 35 less essential building schemes which were due to start late in 1967–68, or in 1968–69, and also deferring a variety of minor building works including counter modernisation schemes.—[Vol. 756, c.
488.]
Public Building And Works
Government Offices (Capital Value)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works (1) what is his estimate of the capital value of the 764,000 square feet of central Government offices in Cardiff;(2) what is his estimate of the capital value of the 15·3 million square feet of central Government offices in Greater London.
No estimate exists of the capital value of Government Offices, leased or owned. To work one out would require an unjustifiable amount of staff time.
Agrément Board And Building Research Station (Cost)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what was the cost of the Agrément Board and the Building Research Station, respectively, in the latest year for which figures are available.
The Grant-in-Aid to the Agrément Board for 1966–67 was£60,000. Total Exchequer expenditure for the same period on the Building Research Station was about£1·5 million.
National Building Agency, Agrément Board And Building Research Station (Staffs)
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what is the total personnel employed, respectively, by the National Building Agency, the Agrément Board and the Building Research Station; and how many of the staff of each of these organisations are established civil servants.
The total personnel employed by the National Building Agency is 203, of whom 2 are established civil servants on secondment. The Agrément Board currently employs 14 staff, of whom 1 is an established civil servant on secondment. 790 staff of my Department are employed at the B.R.S., of whom 402 are established and 388 unestablished.
Government Car Service
asked the Minister of Public Building and Works (1) how many Government motor cars and drivers are now allocated for the use of Ministers and Junior Ministers; and whether, in the interests of economy, he will reduce the number;(2) how many Government motor cars and drivers are now allocated for the use of civil servants; and whether, in the interests of economy, he will direct that this number be reduced.
A total of 184 cars is provided by the Government Car Service in London for conveying Ministers and senior civil servants. These cars are required solely in order to facilitate the prompt handling of official business and I am satisfied that the number could not be reduced without disproportionate loss of efficiency.
Scotland
Late School Leavers
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage of the school population in Scotland he estimates will stay in full-time education beyond the statutory school-leaving date in 1968; and if he will list the education authorities with their percentages, giving boys and girls, of school population staying beyond the statutory school-leaving date.
The estimates for the whole of Scotland of the numbers of pupils of 15 and 16 years of age still at school in January, 1968 expressed as percentages of the 13-year-old school age group of, respectively, two and three years previously are as follows:
| 15-year-olds | … | … | … | 47·4 |
| 16-year-olds | … | … | … | 25·2 |
British Standard Time (Consultations)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will name those organisations and associations which submitted views on the introduction of British Standard Time in a form that permitted a clear division between those for and those against the introduction of British Standard Time.
Most of the organisations consulted by the Government about the future of summer time gave qualified replies or replies expressing minority as well as majority views. Those who came down firmly one way or the other in Scotland are given below, although even in these cases it was clear that the views were no necessarily held by every constituent member of the organisation concerned:
In favour of British Standard Time
- The District Councils' Association for Scotland.
- The Scottish Schoolmasters' Association.
- The Confederation of British Industry (Scottish Office).
- The Scottish Council (Development & Industry).
- The Scottish Trades Union Congress.
- The Scottish Football Association.
- The Scottish Football League.
- Aberdeen Corporation.
- Eight county councils.
Against British Standard Time
- The National Farmers' Union of Scotland.
- The Association of Headmistresses.
- The Secondary Teachers' Association.
- The Educational Institute for Scotland.
- The Convention of Royal Burghs.
- Edinburgh Corporation.
- Glasgow Corporation.
- Twenty county councils.
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Costs
| Number of Places
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Primary Secondary Schools £000
| Primary Secondary Schools £000
| Primary Secondary Schools
| Primary Secondary Schools
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| Projects started in 1967 | … | … | 10,202 | 14,395 | 30,285 | 26,902 |
| Projects completed in 1967 | … | … | 7,222 | 8,954 | 26,359 | 23,165 |
Land Commission (Land Disposal)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received from the Scottish Association of Registered House-Builders regarding the disposal of land by the Land Commission; and if he will require the Commission to operate procedures applicable to circumstances in Scotland.
I have seen the views expressed by the Association in a letter which it addressed on 9th January to hon. Members for Scottish Constituencies. I am satisfied that the procedures which the Land Commission will operate take full account of Scottish circumstances, and at my request the Commission cleared up any misunderstandings about them at a meeting with the Association on 22nd January.
Primary And Secondary Schools (Places)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total number of places, in primary and secondary schools, respectively, covered by approvals for new buildings granted in 1967.
29,658 and 37,862.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what were the costs and total number of places in primary and secondary schools, respectively, covered by building starts in 1967;(2) what were the costs and total number of places in primary and secondary schools, respectively, covered by completions in 1967.
The information is given in the table below:
Social Security
Widows And Children (Review)
asked the Minister of Social Security when she expects to announce the results of her Departmental review of social security provisions concerning widows and their children.
We are pressing ahead with the work as fast as possible, but I cannot forecast when it will be completed. I would remind by hon. Friend that we have already made a number of improvements to the provisions for widows and their children.
Shipping
Fishing Industry (Safety Report)
asked the President of the Board of Trade when he expects that his Departmental inquiry into safety at sea in the fishing industry will produce its report.
It is as yet too soon to say when the report of the
| 1965 | 1967 | |||
| Between South Mimms and Welwyn | … | … | 1,700 Vehicles/hour | 2,000 Vehicles/hour |
| North of Welwyn | … | … | 1,330 Vehicles/hour | 1,540 Vehicles/hour |
| South of Welwyn | … | … | 2,250 Vehicles/hour | 3,260 Vehicles/hour |
Road Research Laboratory (Safety Fences)
asked the Minister of Transport what study was made by the Road Research Laboratory of motorways in other countries before coming to the conclusions about the use of safety fences in the central reservations of motorways contained in the Department's observations in the Sixth Special Report of the Estimates Committee.
The Road Research Laboratory has made an extensive analysis of all the evidence on this subject available from abroad. It is consistent with the results of the experiments in this country.
D Ring Road
asked the Minister of Transport if she is aware that the delay of local authorities in submitting their views on the north-west sector of the proposed D ring road is causing anxiety to people whose homes may be affected
Board of Trade's Working Group on the Safety of Fishermen will be ready.
However, in view of the disasters of the past weeks, I have decided to appoint an independent inquiry to examine urgently the safety in all its aspects of deep-sea trawling and to make recommendations. The establishment of this inquiry will not prevent immediate action on safety wherever that seems necessary.
Roads
Al (Traffic Flows)
asked the Minister of Transport what is the number of vehicles per hour which use the single carriageway of the Al between South Mimms and Welwyn, and the numbers which use the adjoining dual carriageway sections north and south of this section, respectively.
The last census taken covering these lengths of the Al was in 1965. The traffic flows per hour for each of the lengths, averaged over a 16 hour day, were as follows. The estimated flows for 1967 are also given.by the proposal; and whether she will now set a definite time limit for the making of submissions by the authorities concerned.
The London Borough of Harrow, writing on behalf of the five local authorities concerned, have indicated that they expect to submit by the end of March their views on the alignment proposed by the Greater London Council.
New Road (Stamshaw And Rudmor)
asked the Minister of Transport what proposals have been submitted to her Department by the Portsmouth City Council for a new main road through the Stamshaw and Rudmor areas; what changes in them have been made by her Department; and whether she will make a statement.
Outline proposals for a new road were submitted to the Department some time ago. Consultations have been taking place with offices of the Council on a proposal by the Divisional Road Engineer to alter the line of the road slightly in order to minimise interference with the shopping and other amenities of the neighbourhood. It is understood that a recommendation is about to be made to the Council that the new line be approved.
Expenditure
asked the Minister of Transport if she will give in respect of improvement, maintenance, administration, cleansing, and so forth, for the Exchequer and local authorities, respectively, details of the reductions to be made in road expenditure totalling in 1968–69 for the Exchequer£18 million and for local authorities£35 million, and for 1969–70£29 million and£40 million, respectively.
£15 million of the reduction of£18 million in 1968–69 will be found by reduction of expenditure on major roads in England. About£1 million of this is expected to be achieved by reduction in expenditure on trunk road maintenance etc. and the balance by re- duction of expenditure on new construction and improvement of motorways, trunk road and principal roads, including the local authority share of expenditure on the latter.£25 million of the reduction of£29 million in 1969–70 will be found by reduction of expenditure on roads in England but the division of this between trunk road maintenance and new construction and improvements has not yet been determined.Local authorities in England have been asked to reduce by at least 15 per cent. their planned expenditure on maintenance of principal and other local authority roads, the improvement of non-principal roads and similar expenditure, both capital and current, on car parks, highway depots and plant, lighting of roads etc. in order to find savings of£30 million and£33 million in 1968–69 and 1969–70 respectively. It will be for each authority to apportion the reduction called for between the various kinds of expenditure on roads. Similar requests have been addressed to local authorities in Scotland and Wales by the appropriate departments.