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Volume 769: debated on Friday 26 July 1968

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday, 26th July, 1968

Official Information (Disclosure To The Press)

asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware that, following Ministerial meetings held on Tuesday, 16th July, the Press were officially given information concerning the Government's plans to issue a White Paper on Electoral Reform; and whether he will cause an investigation to be made into the growing practice of giving official information to the Press in anticipation of official statements and papers being issued to the House of Commons.

Without accepting the premises in my hon. Friend's Question, I would be prepared to examine any evidence he may have of the improper disclosure of official information.

Overseas Civil Servants (Pensions)

asked the Prime Minister whether he will transfer the responsibility for the pensions of former colonial officials, together with grants and loans to former colonies to help them pay these, to the Vote of the Commonwealth Office from the Ministry of Overseas Development, in view of the fact that they are not payments for overseas development.

No. The grants and loans made to overseas countries in respect of the pension benefits of their employees who were members of Her Majesty's Overseas Civil Service are made under the provisions of the Overseas Development and Services Act, 1965, and the Overseas Aid Act, 1966, which are administered by the Ministry of Overseas Development.

Prime Minister's Office (Staff And Salaries)

asked the Prime Minister whether he will give details showing to what extent the Government's policy of reducing expenditure has affected his Department; and whether he will give a comparison, either in percentage or actual figures, of the number of staff employed and their salaries and wages in October, 1964, and June, 1968.

The estimates for my office are prepared in the light of and in conformity with the Government's public expenditure and other policies.In October, 1964, the number of staff —defined as in my earlier Answers to similar Questions by my hon. Friend— employed in my office was 45 at a monthly salary and wages bill of £5,166; in June of this year the corresponding figures were 65 and £9,166 respectively. The increase in staff reflects the substantial increase in work done under the present Administration, including the substantially increased number of Questions from my hon. Friend and other hon. Members.

Nuclear Weapons (Non-Proliferation Treaty)

asked the Prime Minister whether, following the successful conclusion of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, he will seek to hold further consultations with President Johnson and Premier Kosygin with a view to general disarmament.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave to a Question by the hon. Member for Ban-bury (Mr. Marten) on 11th July, and to the speech which my right hon. Friend the Minister of State with special responsibility for disarmament made on 16th July in the 18-National Disarmament Committee a copy of which is in the Library.—[Vol. 768, c.126.]

Council Of Europe (United Kingdom Delegation)

asked the Prime Minister what changes he has made in the composition of the United Kingdom Delegation to the Council of Europe.

My hon. and learned Friend the Member for Dulwich (Mr. S. C. Silkin) will take over the leadership of the Delegation from my hon. Friend the Member for Stockton-on-Tees (Mr. William Rodgers).

Foreign And Commonwealth Offices (Merging)

asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement on the progress on the merging of the Foreign and Commonwealth Offices.

Yes. Good progress is being made and I hope that the merged Office will come into existence in mid-October.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Horticulture (Examination)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now announce the outcome of the examination of the horticultural industry undertaken during 1967 in consultation with the farmers' unions.

A summary record of the examination is being published today and I have arranged for copies to be placed in the Library of the House, The examination was a factual study of the present structure and workings of the United Kingdom horticultural industry and of the developments which have occurred since the first examination was conducted in 1965. We have discussed the outcome of the examination with the farmers' unions, and I wish to record the Government's appreciation of their valuable and objective collaboration. It is intended to conduct a further examination in 1970.

Confectionery (Prices)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the Government's policy on increases in confectionery retail prices in relation to the incidence of Selective Employment Tax; and whether he will make a statement.

The Government's policy is set out in the White Paper on Productivity, Prices and Incomes Policy in 1968 and 1969 (Cmnd. 3590). This recognises that there may be some increases in prices as a result of increased taxation and other factors, but that these should do no more than cover the overall increases in costs. This policy applies to retail confectionery prices as to all others.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what consultations he has had with confectionery and chocolate manufacturers following the Report of the National Board for Prices and Incomes on confectionery prices; and whether he will make a statement.

Discussions are proceeding between my Department and representatives of the chocolate and sugar confectionery industry on the implications of the Report of the National Board for Prices and Incomes on the costs and prices of that industry.

House Of Lords And Privy Council (Judicial Sittings)

asked the Attorney General (1) on how many days during the period 1st October, 1967 to 25th July, 1968, have the House of Lords and the Privy Council, respectively, sat judicially;(2) on how many days between 1st October, 1967 and 25th July, 1968, have the House of Lords and the Privy Council, respectively, sat with one member of the House or Board who was not an appointed Lord of Appeal in Ordinary and with two members of the House or Board who were not an appointed Lord of Appeal in Ordinary, respectively.

In this period the House of Lords sat on 123 days to dispose of appeals, including four days on which the Appellate Committee sat in two Divisions. In addition, the Appeal Committee sat on 12 days to dispose of petitions for leave to appeal. During the same period the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council sat of 98 days.The House of Lords sat on 24 days with one member who was not a Lord of Appeal in Ordinary and on five days with two such members, while the Judicial Committee sat on 13 days with one such member and on 34 days with two such members.

asked the Attorney General how many causes have been heard and determined by the House of Lords and the Privy Council, respectively, in the period 1st October, 1967 to 25th July, 1968.

In this period the House of Lords heard 30 appeals, and gave judgment in 32. In addition, the Appeal Committee disposed of 45 petitions for leave to appeal. The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council heard 24 appeals and determined 19, and disposed of 56 petitions for leave.

asked the Attorney General how many causes are outstanding in the House of Lords and the Privy Council, respectively.

In the House of Lords six appeals have been registered but not yet set down, and 18 have been set down but not yet heard. In five appeals judgment is awaited. In the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council 29 appeals have been registered but not yet set down, and six have been set down but not yet heard. In six appeals judgment is awaited; 14 petitions for leave are awaiting hearing before the Appeal Committee of the House of Lords and nine before the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council.

Lords Of Appeal In Ordinary

asked the Attorney-General what is the present number of Lords of Appeal in Ordinary; and how far they are short of the maximum at present permitted by statute.

The present number of Lords of Appeal in Ordinary is nine, which is two less than the maximum of 11 fixed by the Administration of Justice Act, 1968. However, the appointment of another Lord of Appeal has been announced, and is expected to take place shortly.

Commonwealth Affairs

Gibraltar (Order In Council)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs when he will lay the Order in Council declaring that Her Majesty's Government will never hand over the people of Gibraltar to another State against their freely and democratically expressed wishes.

The Order in Council will be made by Her Majesty in Council under the Royal Prerogative. It will therefore not be laid before Parliament.

British Honduras Legislature (Verbatim Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether a verbatim account of the proceedings in the Legislature of British Honduras is made available for the general public.

No. But meetings of the Legislature are covered by the Government Information Service and a full report of each day's proceedings is given over Radio Belize.

Rhodesia

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs how long those of Her Majesty's loyal Rhodesian subjects held in prison without trial by the Smithrégime have been so held; and, in view of the fact that the Government's earlier estimate concerning the fall of the illegal régime was not fulfilled, what estimate he has now made of the time this illegal imprisonment will last.

Those held in prisons without trial have been detained for varying periods. It is not possible to say how long this illegal imprisonment will last but it is Her Majesty's Government's policy to work for an early return to legality in the interest of the people of Rhodesia as a whole.

Nigeria

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs whether he will place in the Library copies of the report on relief measures in Nigeria which he has received from Lord Hunt.

Copies of Lord Hunt's report are being placed in the Library today.

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs how many naval vessels have been sold to the Federal Nigerian Forces since 1966; and how many British naval officers are serving as advisers to the Federal Nigerian Navy.

It is not the practice of Her Majesty's Government to disclose information about sales of defence equipment to other countries. There are no serving British Naval Officers acting as advisers to the Federal Nigerian Navy.

Personal Case

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs what assistance has been given by the High Commissioner's Office in New Zealand to Mr. John Johnson, a United Kingdom subject, who is in danger of losing his sight and is without adequate funds to return home.

I am already making urgent enquiries into this case as a result of the representations which the hon. Member has been making to me. I will inform him of the results as soon as possible.

Prime Minister Of Swaziland (Discussions)

asked the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement about his conversations in London with the Prime Minister of Swaziland.

At his request, the Prime Minister of Swaziland and I met at the Commonwealth Office on 25th July to discuss the question of land shortage and land use in Swaziland. I was accompanied by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Overseas Development and the Prime Minister by his Minister of Health, and officials on both sides. At the meeting the Prime Minister presented detailed proposals in this regard. We will now consider proposals put forward by the Prime Minister and to this end we have agreed to send a team of experts to examine the question with the Swaziland Government. The matter is likely to be further discussed at the talks on future aid which will be held with the Government of Swaziland later in the year.

Ministry Of Defence

Research Scientists And Engineers

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many qualified scientists and engineers have transferred from civil work in the United Kingdom to defence research during 1967.

Medical And Dental Staff, Malta

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will now give revised figures for the complements of medical and dental staff ashore at Malta.

The medical and dental staff employed at the Royal Naval Hospitals Bighi and Imtarfa total:

Doctors19
Dentists2
Nursing officers40
Nurses45
Medical ratings68
Maltese civilian nursing sisters
(the half being part time).
The Family Medical Centre at Floriana has:

Doctors6
Dentist1
Nursing officers9
Nurses4
Medical other ranks3
The Naval Base, H.M.S. St. Angelo has:

Doctor1
Dentist1
Medical ratings5
There are also three Army medical officers and three other ranks; three R.A.F. medical officers, 6 United Kingdom based other ranks and 6 locally-entered other ranks.

Service Medical Officers (Civilian Patients)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent the medical services of the armed forces care for geriatric and young chronic sick patients and treat the illnesses of late middle-age.

As stated in the reply to my hon. Friend's Question on 23rd July, the medical services of the Armed Forces provide a complete spectrum of medical care for Service personnel, for a large number of Service dependants and, abroad, also for civilians. Within the age groups covered, there are relatively few geriatric patients, although Service hospitals at home do cater for a certain number of N.H.S. patients in this category as well as for other N.H.S. patients, retired Service personnel and pensioners in late middle-age. In addition, the medical services provide cover for the children of Service personnel. Service Medical Officers are actively encouraged to broaden their professional education by refresher courses and by attending clinics and symposia.—[Vol. 769, c.94.]

Hms "Condor", Arbroath (Training Facilities)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has for continuation of training facilities at H.M.S. "Condor", Arbroath; and how many persons are employed there at the most convenient date.

No decisions have yet been taken about the future roles of R.N. Air Stations. In May 1968 a total of 267 civilians were employed at H.M.S. "Condor", Arbroath.

Gruinard Island (Contamination)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the most recent examination was carried out of the present degree of danger in Gruinard Island to human beings and animals, respectively, as a result of the wartime use of the island by his Department; and when the next examination will take place.

The most recent examination took place on 4th September 1967. The next examination will take place later this year.

Departmental Office (South Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has now decided where in South Wales to locate the office for the 1,500 Ministry of Defence jobs to be dispersed from London.

Yes The office will be located in Cardiff. A site has been selected and planning is proceeding.

Non-Commissioned Ranks (Commutation Of Pensions)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when his review of the arrangements for the commutation of service pensions for non-commissioned ranks will be completed; and whether service personnel due for discharge during the currency of the review will be enabled to participate in any new arrangements that may be made.

I am not yet able to say when the review of these matters will be completed.

Economic Affairs

National Economic Development Office (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what proportion of the public expenditure on the National Economic Development Office and its Council is expended in Scotland; and what proportion of the 23 per cent. increased expenditure during the current year is to be spent in Scotland.

It is not possible to give figures, but the proportions are small, since the National Economic Development Office is located in London and the Council and most of the Economic Development Committees normally meet there.

Education And Science

Royal School For The Blind, Bristol (Closure)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in view of the distress which the proposal to close the Royal School for the Blind, Bristol, in September, is causing to a number of blind children and their parents in Bridgwater and the West Country generally, why notice of the closure was so short and the alternative schools so distant; and whether he will arrange educational facilities for blind children in the West Country at some more convenient centre to allow weekend visits to or by parents.

The Governors of the Bristol Royal School for the Blind gave notice in June of their intention to close the school in December, 1968. The local education authorities responsible are making alternative arrangements for pupils to continue to receive special educational treatment at other schools from that date. I regret the closure of the school but there are however only about 1,000 blind children at school throughout the country and it is unavoidable that many have to attend schools at some distance from their homes. There are not enough blind children in the South-West to justify the building of a local authority school in view of the places available at existing schools.

University Entrants

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of 18-year-olds in relation to total population in England went to university as at 1st November in each year from 1960 to 1968.

The position in England and Wales is set out in the Table below.

18 year old entrants to Universities in England and WalesPopulation aged 18 in England and WalesColumn 1 as a percentage of Column 2
per cent.
1960–6111,035609,0001·81
1961–6212,759643,0001·98
1962–6313,752709,0001·94
1963–6413,724650,0002·11
1964–6515,791771,0002·05
1965–6619,049834,0002·28
1966–6718,196757,0002·40

Notes:

1. Column 2 relates to figures for the 1st January following the date of the "entrants" figures in column 1.

2. Column 1 relates to total entrants. There is no breakdown of domicile of entrants for all the years in question.

3. Figures later than 1966–67 are not available.

School Projects, Hampshire

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) which school building projects, included in the original approval programme for Hampshire for the year 1968–69, have been cut by his Department; and how many school places required by the Hampshire Education Authority in the spring of 1969 will not now be available;(2) which proposed school projects in Basingstoke, Whitchurch and Tadley have been cut on the instructions of his Department from the Hampshire school building programme for 1968–69; how many school places will not be available at the termination of this period, as a result of these cuts; and how many children will be without school places as a result.

The first part of the table below sets out the particulars of projects which were included in the original 1968–69 programme approved for Hampshire but have been deferred following the review announced in Circular 6/68: the second part of the table shows projects which have been added as a result of the review. Projects in the localities named in the second question are marked*. I do not expect that the recasting of the programme will cause children to be out of school.

HAMPSHIRE: 1968–69 MAJOR BUILDING PROGRAMME
Projects deferred to a later year
ProjectNumbers of place
PRIMARY SCHOOLS
New schools
*Basingstoke, Winklebury Hill Co. Junior320
Romsey, Halterworth Co. Junior320
Sarisbury Co. Infants240
*Tadley, Bishopwood Co. Junior320
Extensions
*Basingstoke, Worting Co. Infants190
Pennington C. of E. Junior240
SECONDARY SCHOOLS
New schools
Fareham, Tichfield Co.660
Extensions
*Basingstoke, Richard Aldworth Co.390
Gosport Grammar330
Havant, Broomfield Co300
1,680
Projects added to the programme
ProjectNumber of places
PRIMARY SCHOOLS
New School
Chandler's Ford, Hiltingbury Co. Junior (Phase II)160
160
SECONDARY SCHOOLS
Extensions
Fareham, Bishopfield Co150
Fareham, St. Anne's Co150
300

Premature Baldness

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will refer to the Medical Research Council for their examination the evidence of the researches of the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, details of which have been sent to him, that loss of hair and premature baldness can be attributed to the habitual taking of aspirins.

This investigation, which suggested an association, though not necessarily a casual relationship, between the habitual taking of aspirin and hair loss, has been reported in a widely read medical journal and will be followed up by research workers as necessary.

Education Expenditure (Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will take steps to raise the Welsh percentage of the total expenditure on primary and secondary education from 4·9 per cent. to the level of the percentage in Wales of the total population.

In June, 1967 the population of Wales was 4·9 per cent. of the population of the United Kingdom.

Racial Issues (Education)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) how many colleges of education now include in their curriculum specific courses in teacher training of Commonwealth children; and how many include specific courses on teaching against race prejudice among British children;(2) whether he is satisfied with the speed and effectiveness of teachers and lecturers at colleges of education in dealing with the problem of educating British children not to be racially prejudiced; and what further action he proposes to take;(3) what proportion of teachers and lecturers at colleges of education have attended conferences and courses on the educating of Commonwealth children;(4) what proportion of teachers and lecturers at colleges of education have attended at courses and conferences on the educating of British children against race prejudice.

About one-third of the Colleges of Education are known to be relating problems of immigrant children to the broader issues of living in a multiracial society, usually as part of education courses. A survey at the end of 1966 showed that about 15 per cent. were organising specific courses. Exact statistics are not available but it was estimated that in 1966–67 over 2,500 teachers and lecturers in colleges of education attended conferences or courses dealing with the problems of immigrant children and racial issues. Two national conferences have been held on "Immigration and the Education of Teachers" and a third is planned for January 1969 which will review the progress made. The problem needs the continuing energetic attention of all concerned with the education and employment of teachers and I will, in the light of the findings of the conference next year, consider further what additional steps are needed.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the result so far of the work of the education panel of the National Committee for Commonwealth Immigrants.

The Committee is an independent body. The work of the education panel is described in the Committee's annual report for 1967.

Employment And Productivity

Industrial Disputes

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will make a practice of reporting to the House or issuing an appropriate statement when an industrial dispute, such as that involving provincial busmen, reaches deadlock, setting out what the Government require in increased productivity before the wage application can be allowed under the criteria laid down by the Prices and Incomes Act.

The general requirements of the criteria are fully set out in the White Paper "Productivity, Prices and Incomes Policy in 1968 and 1969", and have been amplified both generally, and in relation to particular issues, in the reports of the N.B.P.I. I do not think the procedure suggested by my hon. Friend would generally be practicable.

Production Industries (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity since Selective Employment Tax was introduced, what has been the total number of jobs in the production industries in the United Kingdom as against the period prior to introduction of Selective Employment Tax.

The estimated numbers of employees in employment in the production industries (Orders II to XVIII of the Standard Industrial Classification) in the United Kingdom at June, 1966 and June, 1967, were 11,852,000 and 11,455,000, respectively.

Goods And Services (Proposed Price Increases)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what further additions have been made to the goods and services for which manufacturers give early warning of proposed price increases.

After consultations with the interests concerned, the following goods have now been added to the list:

  • Black and white photographic film.
  • Synthetic rubber.
  • Electric irons.
  • Electric spaceheaters.
  • Electric blankets.
In addition, the following have been added to the list of goods for which the trend of manufacturers' prices is kept under review:

  • Furniture.
  • Pottery.
  • Glassware.
  • Cutlery.

Philips Brown Inquiry (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will now publish the Report of the Phelps Brown Inquiry.

Miners And Mining Apprentices, Lanarkshire

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what were the total numbers of miners and mining apprentices, respectively, in employment in Lanarkshire in 1947 and at the last most convenient date.

There were 20,859 males employed at collieries in Lanarkshire in December, 1947. There was no formal apprenticeship scheme at this time and I regret that the number of youths employed is not available.On 6th July, 1968 there were 4,253 males employed at collieries in Lanarkshire; 150 youths under 21 years of age were employed at the end of December, 1967, the most recent date for which the age distribution is available. Nearly all of theese youths were serving, or had served, either a mining or craft apprenticeship.

Regional Prices Boards

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether, in the light of the report of her advisory committee on the index of retail prices, she will now give further consideration to the setting up of a separate prices board for Scotland.

I have nothing to add to my right hon. Friend's reply on 13th May to the hon. Member for Halifax (Dr. Summerskill) on the subject of separate prices boards.As the hon. Member will know, we are, in accordance with the recommendation of the Cost of Living Advisory Committee, published earlier this month, putting in hand immediately a detailed study of the technical problems of compiling reliable price indices for regions. —[Vol. 764, c. 842–3.]

Older Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity, if she will appoint a committee to consider means of increasing the prospects of employment of unemployed persons over 45 years of age.

It is the Government's policy to encourage the employment of older workers for as long as they are able and willing to work. Current arrangements provide for frequent review of older workers' problems. In 1966, the National Joint Advisory Council approved a number of proposals designed to promote their employment, including efforts to influence industrial attitudes, building up more specialised knowledge within the employment services, training and job redesign. Some of the measures have already been brought into effect and the others will be implemented as soon as opportunity permits. I do not think a special committee would serve a useful purpose.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many unemployed persons in Scotland are 45 years of age or over; and what steps she proposes to take to reduce this number.

Age analyses of the registered wholly unemployed are provided for January and July each year. The figures for July, 1968 will become available during the next few days and I will write to the hon. Member again.The following are the latest available figures:

Numbers at 8th January, 1968
Men, over 45, wholly unemployed25,995
Women, over 45, wholly unemployed4,916
30,911
The Government's economic policies, including the wide range of measures for regional development, are designed to reduce unemployment to the minimum practicable level. I refer to Government policies relating to older workers specifically in my reply to the hon. Member's further Question on this subject today.

Distributive Trade (Industrial Training Board)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity when she will announce the membership of the industrial training board for the distributive trade.

Irish Soldiers' And Sailors' Land Trust (Sale Of Houses)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity when she will reply to the letters from the hon. Member for Belfast, North, concerning the increase in the selling price of houses by the Irish Soldiers' and Sailors' Land Trust.

Tailors And Garment Workers (Pay Settlements)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity when she expects to receive the decision of the National Board for Prices and Incomes on the application of the National Union of Tailors and Garment Workers for increased rates of pay; and if she will make a statement.

None of the pay settlements recently negotiated by this union in the clothing trades has been referred to the National Board for Prices and Incomes. My right hon. Friend, after considering them collectively in consultation with colleagues, has decided not to intervene further. The organisations concerned have been advised of this decision today.

Redundant Workers, Caerphilly (Retraining)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will provide extended facilities for the retraining of mineworkers made redundant by pit closures and for others now unemployed in the Caerphilly constituency.

Most of the retraining required is likely to be at operator level and can best be given by employers with the help of the Industrial Training Boards and of the Government grants which are available to assist such training in Development Areas. Mineworkers and others in the Caerphilly area who want and are suitable for the accelerated training for skill given by Government training centres can obtain it at the Cardiff centre, which is within daily travelling distance, or at any of the other 38 centres where the trade of their choice is taught. Another centre within daily travel of Caerphilly is to be opened in West Monmouthshire in 1970.

Municipal Busmen's Pay (Standstill Order)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity, what action her Department has taken in the present dispute involving provincial busmen, in view of the fact that many local branches have already agreed to one-man bus operators.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Statement I made to the House this morning.

Embassy Churches

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will list those embassy churches, giving their addresses, which are maintained or partially maintained by Her Majesty's Government, stating in each case the denomination of the church.

No Embassy Churches are maintained or partially maintained by Her Majesty's Government.

Czechoslovakia

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he is aware of the large scale movements of Soviet military forces in the neighbourhood of the Czechoslovakian border; and if he will raise the matter in the Security Council of the United Nations as a threat to international peace.

We have seen official announcements by the Soviet Union on 23rd and 25th July of military and air defence exercises in Western Russia. The answer to the second part of the Question is No.

British Subjects, China (Detention)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs what information he has concerning Mr. Gordon, a British subject, and his family in China.

On 1st February Mr. Gordon's relatives in England informed us that the family had been due to leave China in early November but that no news of them had been received since then. On 3rd February the British Mission in Peking were instructed to ask the Chinese authorities for assistance in discovering the family's whereabouts; this request has since been repeated at frequent intervals but no reply has been received. As enquiries in Hong Kong and elsewhere have revealed no trace of the family, we are obliged to conclude that they have been detained in China. The British Charge d'Affaires in Peking will continue his efforts to obtain information from the Chinese authorities.

Visa-Free Entry (Discussions)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs if he will initiate discussions with the Governments which distinguish for purposes of visa-free entry between United Kingdom passports issued in London and those issued else- where, with a view to securing the abolition of such distinctions.

When negotiating visa abolition agreements with other Governments, Her Majesty's Government aim at obtaining visa-free entry for as many United Kingdom nationals as possible. It is, however, only to be expected that other Governments will be reluctant to grant visa-free entry to United Kingdom nationals who have no guarantee of admission to the United Kingdom itself. The ability of Her Majesty's Government to secure the abolition of distinctions of the kind referred to is clearly restricted by the terms of the Commonwealth Immigrants Acts of 1962 and 1968.

Passport-Office (Review Of Procedure)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will establish a committee to review the exercise by the Passport Office of its discretion concerning the issue of passports in London to citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies.

In so far as applications to the Passport Office by active supporters of the illegal régime in Rhodesia are concerned, the matter is already covered by the arrangements outlined in the statement circulated on 27th June by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs. Consideration is being given to the extension of the review procedure to the refusal of passports to citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies unconnected with Rhodesia. The result of this consideration will be announced in due course.—[Vol. 767, c.126–130.]

British Broadcasting Corporation (Hebrew Service)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs whether he will make a statement on the future of the British Broadcasting Corporation Hebrew Service.

A careful review has recently been made of the Hebrew Service in the light of the need to ensure that, in existing circumstances, the funds available for information work are spent with maximum effectiveness. The conclusion reached is that our links with Israel can more suitably be maintained in other ways and the B.B.C., whose views have been taken into account in this review, are accordingly being asked to discontinue the Hebrew Service. The B.B.C.'s World Service in English has a much larger audience in Israel than the Hebrew Service and will, of course, continue. We are, in addition, expecting that the redeployment of funds will enable us to step up our activity in the cultural field in Israel.

Ministry Of Health

Illegitimate Births

asked the Minister of Health whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the recorded illegitimacy rate as a proportion of total births in each of the 20 largest cities of England and Wales in each of the past five years.

ILLEGITIMATE BIRTHS (LIVE AND STILL) AS A RATE PER 1,000 TOTAL BIRTHS (LIVE AND STILL)
19631964196519661967
Birmingham112110110113117
Bradford112116121123128
Bristol92899797106
Cardiff778689108108
Coventry7877778792
Kingston-upon-Hull77869696102
Leeds92103108115116
Leicester112109123122127
Liverpool69778592103
Manchester126134143150164
Newcastle-upon-Tyne859795116119
Nottingham132137144147159
Plymouth7674918987
Portsmouth98108129123145
Sheffield6875827985
Southampton93101112109116
Stoke-on-Trent5058626981
Sunderland5255636177
Walsall6364665960
Wolverhampton113104978782
Greater London105107108110114

Prescription Charges

asked the Minister of Health if he will simplify the four-page leaflet he has issued on prescription charges, in view of the fact that most people do not know the meaning of such words as caecostomy, hypo-parathyroidism, hypopituitarism or myasthenia gravis.

The list of medical conditions giving entitlement to exemption could not be accurately expressed in non-technical terms; patients suffering from these conditions will usually know them by the names appearing on the application form, which in any event has to be submitted through a doctor.

Dentists, Andover

asked the Minister of Health if he is aware of the shortage of dentists in the town of Andover and of the long waiting period experienced by those requiring examination and treatment; and what steps he proposes to take to improve the situation.

Though I am aware that some patients may have to wait longer for an appointment than is generally desirable, the proportion of dentists to population in Andover is similar to that for England and Wales as a whole. The Hampshire Executive Council are seeking to attract more dentists to the area, but there is no power to compel a dentist to practise in a particular place. The only practical remedy for the overall shortage of dentists is to recruit and train more; and some years ago the Government therefore embarked on a programme of expanding the capacity of dental teaching schools.

Disabled Persons (Motor Vehicles)

asked the Minister of Health whether he will consider making adapted small cars available for use by invalids instead of specialist motorised invalid tricycles, at least in the case of all married drivers eligible for invalid motorised transport.

A considerable proportion of three-wheeler users are mar-riend and I cannot promise a development along the lines proposed.

asked the Minister of Health whether he is satisfied that the cost of purchasing and maintaining single person motorised invalid tricycles is less than the cost of purchasing, adapting and maintaining the least expensive mass-produced motor car; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the Member for Uxbridge on 20th June.— [Vol. 766, c.173.]

Haemophiliacs (Motor Vehicles)

asked the Minister of Health what decision he has reached concerning the provision of four-wheeled vehicles for haemophiliacs as a result of his recent inquiry.

My inquiries into the medical effects upon haemophiliacs of driving invalid tricycles are not yet complete.

Social Services, Cumberland (Grants)

asked the Minister of Health (1) what grants are given to Cumberland County Council to enable them to provide assistance to social service organisations; and what amount was made available for 1968–69 and 1969–70;(2) what grants are given to Cumberland County Council to enable them to provide chiropody service to the old people; and how much will be available for the years 1968–69 and 1969–70.

Such expenditure by local authorities is taken into account in determining the aggregate of Rate Support Grant payable to local authorities under the Local Government Act, 1966.

Home Department

Drugs (Thefts)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to obtain from the narcotics division of the Criminal Investigation Department a list of the thefts of amphetamine or similar drugs reported to Scotland Yard other than the 900,000 dexamphetamine sulphate tablets recently reported stolen from Inter-Alia Pharmaceutical Services Limited.

Fraud Charges (Legal Aid)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give, for the period from October, 1964 to date, or any convenient period within those years, the total amount of free legal aid granted to persons charged with fraud or conspiracy to defraud, where such persons were found guilty, and the names of such persons together with the legal aid granted in each instance.

Unlicensed Vehicles

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether he is aware that, for many months past a commercial van, 642 TMV, has between the hours of 12 noon and 2 p.m. been parked in Great Cross Street, E.C.1, on a yellow barred area, that this vehicle has no current licence exhibited, but postal order counterfoils, that both police and traffic wardens have passed by this vehicle without taking action; and whether he will cause an investigation to be made;(2) whether he is aware that, between the hours of 12 noon and 2 p.m. on Thursday, 18th July, a number of vans and vehicles were parked on yellow barred areas in the area of Leather Lane, E.C.1., Postpool Lane, E.C.1, Great Cross Street, E.C.1, Baldwin Gardens, Beauchamp Street, and Greville Street, that this happens every weekday and that the police have been informed but no action taken; and whether he will investigate these matters and inform the hon. Member for West Ham, North, of the result;(3) in view of the fact that the local police, traffic wardens and his office have been given details of vehicles, some of which are unlicensed, which are allowed to park for as much as two hours on banned areas in a number of roads and streets in and around the area of Leather Lane, when he will ensure that the law is properly enforced by the traffic wardens and the police.

I am making enquiries of the Commissioner of Police and will write to my hon. Friend.

Drug Addiction (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the principal recorded statistics concerning levels of drug addiction in each of the 20 largest cities in England and Wales in each of the past five years.

I regret that information is not available for the years 1963–66 or, in the form requested, for 1967. I am, however, writing to my hon. Friend.

Crime Rate (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the principal details of the recorded adult and juvenile crime rate in each of the 20 largest cities of England and Wales in each of the past five years.

I am obtaining as much of this information as possible and shall write to my hon. Friend.

Children In Care

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the numbers of children in care as a proportion of the total child population in each of the 20 largest cities of England and Wales in each of the past five years.

Prisons (Working Parties)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department who decides when prisoners convicted of a crime of violence may be included in an outside working party; and what grounds are required for such a decision.

Other than for a prisoner who is in security Category A, the top security classification, it is not an inflexible rule that a man convicted of an offence of violence should in no circumstances be allowed to work outside a prison, and prison Governors have discretion to allocate prisoners, other than those in Category A, to outside working parties. The nature of a prisoner's current and previous convictions are given great weight in considering his suitability for an outside working party, but other factors are his general history; his conduct, attitude and response to training during his sentence; and the stage of his sentence which has been reached.

Risley Remand Centre (Suicides)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many young people have been known to have committed suicide whilst on remand at the Risley Remand Centre since the centre was opened; and if he will make a statement.

The Risley Re mand Centre was opened in April, 1965. Since then 7 male inmates have committed suicide there, of which 3 were under the age of 21 years. Some 29,000 persons have been received at the centre since it was opened.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will investigate the circumstances which led up to the death of 17-year-old John Leckie Urbanowski, at the Risley Remand Centre; what steps he has taken to ensure that proper treatment and observation is given to young people whilst on remand at the centre; if he is satisfied that every possible measure is now taken to ensure that there will not be a similar occurrence; and if he will make a statement.

I have investigated this sad case. Whenever prison medical officers suspect the possibility of suicide special precautions are taken. These were fully explained in my speech in the Adjournment debate on 4th July in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Edmonton. I am satisfied that these preparations are the best that can be devised. They are kept under constant review in the light of experience and modern knowledge and they were fully observed in this case. I greatly regret that the close observation of this young man while in the prison hospital, the special watch kept on his discharge from the hospital, and attempts at resuscitation failed to prevent his tragic death. I am writing to my hon. Friend in greater detail.

Meeting And March, West End (Police Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the cost to ratepayers and taxpayers of the overtime wages paid to the police for duty in connection with the meeting and march in the West End of London last Sunday, 21st July; and if he will make a statement.

373 of the police on duty in connection with the meeting and march in the West End on 21st July had their rest days postponed; under the provisions of the Police Regulations, if they cannot be given time off in lieu within three months they will be compensated by payment at the rate of time and one half. It would not be possible, without a disproportionate expenditure of time and effort, and extensive research, to establish the exact cost. Expenditure from the Metropolitan Police Fund is borne as; to one half by the Metropolitan ratepayers and as to the other half by the central Government, except for £500,000 paid by special central Government grant designed to meetinter alia the cost of protecting foreign embassies.

Littlewood Report (Implementation)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give an assurance that he will introduce legislation to implement the Little-wood Report in the next session of Parliament.

I have nothing to add to the Answer which I gave to a Question on this subject by the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor) on 4th July.—[Vol. 767, c. 261.]

Civil Defence Staff (Redundancy Payments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he will complete the arrangements for compensation of Civil Defence staff made redundant as a result of the decision to disband that service.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to a Question by the hon. Member for Shrewsbury (Sir J. Langford-Holt) yesterday. The regulations will apply to Great Britain.

Housing

Greater London Council (Rent Increases)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he has considered the communication from the honourable Member for West Ham, North, enclosing a circular from the Secretary of the London Labour Party to the effect that the Greater Lon- don Council have, by passing on costs of internal repairs and decorations to their tenants, exceeded the maximum rent increases permitted by his Department; what action he will take to deal with this and the other matters for which he is responsible in the circular; and whether he will make a statement.

I have considered the circular from the Secretary of the London Labour Party on the Greater London Council's revised rent scheme. I was aware of the proposed increases in lodger charges and changes in responsibility for internal decorations when, following my intervention, the Greater London Council reduced the average weekly increase in standard rents to 7s. 6d. I decided not to intervene as regards these alterations as they appeared to be one way of avoiding a further increase in standard rents.Increased payments for services such as central heating, and for additional facilities not automatically included in the letting of a dwelling are outside the scope of the rent increase limitation powers in the Prices and Incomes Act, 1968. Since the passing of the Act I now have powers to determine by direction the amount of rent that shall be regarded as representing payment for services and I shall be making directions to cover cases where the amount payable for services is not separately specified.

Waiting Lists, Greater London Area

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the total number of families on the house waiting lists of local authorities in the area covered by the Greater London Council.

No more up-to-date figure is available than that which was given in answer to my hon. Friend's Question on 3rd May, 1967.—[Vol. 746, c.88.]

Housing Subsidies, Greater London Council (Exchequer Grants)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the Exchequer grants to the Greater London Council for housing subsidies since 1965, and the estimated amount for 1968–69.

The figures are as follows:

YearHousing subsidyImprovement grantsSubsidy to housing associations paid through local authorityTotal
££££
1965–665,202,080127,72581,7315,411,536
1966–675,385,104142,46581,6005,609,169
1967–686,788,726159,87883,0557,031,659
1968–69 (estimated)7,225,000242,00083,0007,550 000

Houses And Flats (Housing Society Schemes)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many houses and flats built under housing society schemes with the approval of the housing corporation remain empty and have remained empty for three months or longer.

I regret that this information is not readily available, but the number is known to be small.

Local Government

Derelict Land (Acquisition And Reclamation)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will introduce amendments to the Land Commission Act in order that the Land Commission may play a greater rôle in recovering and preparing derelict land for industrial purposes.

The Commission's powers are adequate for this purpose. They are prepared to acquire derelict land on behalf of local authorities, but the work of reclamation is best carried out by the local authorities, who are eligible for grant.

Historic Buildings

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will list the historic buildings for which he made a grant last year; and how often each is open to members of the public.

The following is a list of the historic buildings for which a grant was made and accepted in 1967 and details of access to them:OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ON REGULAR DAYSAntony House, Cornwall—April to September; Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Bank Holiday Mondays.

Attingham Park, Shropshire—Easter to September: Wednesdays, Thursdays and Bank Holiday Mondays.

Avington Park, Hampshire—May to September: Saturdays and Sundays.

Blithfield Hall, Staffordshire—Good Friday to 6th October: Good Friday, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays and 6 other days including Bank Holidays.

Bramham Park, Yorkshire—Easter Sunday to 29th September: Sundays and also on Bank Holiday Mondays and Tuesdays.

Claremont, Surrey: The Belvedere—March to October: first Saturday and Sunday in the month and Wednesdays in August.

Down House, Downe, Kent—All the year except Fridays and Christmas Day.

Ely, Cambridgeshire: Prior's House, King's School—22nd July-16th August: Monday to Friday.

Exmouth, Devon: A la Ronde—June to September: Weekdays. October to May; Wednesdays and Saturdays.

Godolphin, Cornwall—May, June and July: Thursdays. August and September: Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Great Asby, Appleby, Westmorland—May to September: One day a week.

Hardwick Hall, Derbyshire—Easter Saturday to 31st October: Wednesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays and Sundays and Bank Holiday Mondays.

Heath Hall, Wakefield—6th-10th and 13th-17th May; 10th-14th June; 23rd-27th September.

Hinchingbrooke House, Huntingdonshire—On completion of repairs at least 20 advertised days.

Knole, Kent—March to December: Wednesdays to Saturdays and Bank Holidays.

Lockleys, Welwyn, Herts.—Weekdays in June.

Newbury, Berkshire: Shaw House—Weekdays in August (not yet ready for opening).

Northiam, Sussex: Brickwall—On completion of repairs 20 advertised days.

Norwich, Norfolk: St. Peter Hungate Church Museum, Elm Hill—Weekdays all the year.

Oxford:

  • Exeter College—Daily.
  • New College—Daily.
  • Queen's College—Daily.
  • Trinity College—Daily.
  • Wadham College—Daily.
  • Worcester College—Daily.

Powderham Castle, Devon—26th May to 22nd September: daily except Saturdays.

Salisbury, Wiltshire: The Round Room—Daily except Mondays.

Stourhead, Wilts.—Easter Saturday to September: Wednesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays, Sundays, and Bank Holidays. March to Easter, October and November: Wednesdays, Saturdays and Sundays.

Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire—On completion of repairs: May to September; one day a week.

Westbury Court, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire: The Gardens—Will be open regularly when restored.

Wilton House, Wiltshire—April to September: Tuesday to Saturday, Bank Holidays and seven Sundays.

Worcester: The Commandery—All the year Monday to Friday.

York: Micklegate House, Micklegate—On completion of repairs, one day a week: May-September.

OPEN BY APPOINTMENT

Abingdon, Berkshire: The Abbey Gateway.

Aldworth House, Tennyson's Lane, Haslemere, Surrey.

Axbridge, Somerset: The Old Drug Store.

Banbury, Oxfordshire: 85 High Street.

Beckington Abbey, Somerset.

Bidston Hall, near Birkenhead, Cheshire.

Bristol: 42 St. Michael's Hill.

Cambridgs: Chesterton Tower.

Coventry, Warwickshire: Whitefriars Gate.

Craster Tower, Alnwick, Northumberland.

Crofton Pumping Station: Wiltshire.

Faversham, Kent: 6 Market Place.

Hull, Yorkshire: Maister's House.

King's Lynn, Norfolk:

  • 11 St. Nicholas Street.
  • Thoresby College.

Lamport Hall, Northamptonshire.

Little Thakenham, Pullborough, Sussex.

Liverpool, Lancs: Bluecoat Chambers, School Lane.

London, W.14: Tower House, 9 Melbury Road, Kensington.

Mavesyn Ridware, near Rugeley, Staffs: The Gatehouse.

Mere, Wiltshire: The Chantry.

North Leverton Windmill, Notts.

Pakenham Tower Mill, Suffolk.

Stanhope House, Bromborough, Staffs.

Stanley Pontlarge, Gloucestershire: The Cottage.

Tattershall, Lincolnshire; The Bede Houses: Tiverton, Devon: The Great House, St. Peter's Street.

Uttoxeter, Staffordshire: Bank House, Church Street.

Waltham Tower Mill, Waltham, Lincs.

Warleigh House, Tamerton Foliot, Devon.

Wolferton House, Dorset.

Woollas Hall, Pershore, Worcestershire.

Worcester: The Old Palace.

INTERIORS NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC (THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURES ARE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET)

Alverstoke, Gosport, Hampshire: The Crescent.

Audley End Village, Essex. Nos. 20, 22 and 28.

Bath, Somerset: 5, 13 and 28 The Circus.

Biddenden, Kent: "Tate Door", 7 High Street.

Bradford on Avon, Wiltshire:

  • 16–17 Tory.
  • Grey Tiles, 31 Market Street.
  • 10B Newtown.
  • 34 St. Margaret's Hill.
  • 6 Church Street.

Faversham, Kent: 26 and 30 Abbey Street.

Frenchay, Gloucestershire: The Manor House.

King's Lynn, Norfolk: 10 Nelson Street.

Lacock, Wiltshire: 3–6 Chapel Row.

Lincoln: 33–34 The Strait.

Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire: 34–38 Church Street.

Winchester, Hampshire: 24 The Square.

York:

  • Bar Convent.
  • 30–32 Goodramgate.
  • 4 High Petergate.
  • 61–63 Low Petergate.
  • 142 Micklegate.
  • 11 Ogleforth.
  • 79 Petergate.
  • 9 Precentor's Court.
  • 26 St. Saviourgate.
  • 15 Stonegate.
  • 48–60 Stonegate.

OPEN BY REASON OF USE

London: The Round House, Chalk Farm, N.W.1.

Rushden Hall, Northants.

Salford Hall, Abbot's Salford, Warwickshire.

Sudbury, Suffolk: The Corn Exchange.

Yarm, Yorkshire: Town Hall.

York: St. William's College, College Street.

NO PUBLIC ACCESS BECAUSE OF ITS USE

Ampthill Park House, Bedfordshire: Used by Cheshire Foundation for the care of the chronic sick.

River Culin, Uffculme (Footbridge)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will make a grant to the appropriate local authorities to pay for the replacement of the pedestrian footbridge over the River Culin at Uffculme, which was swept away in the recent floods.

The cost of replacing the bridge will be taken into account, together with the rest of the local authority's expenditure on the repair of public services, for the purpose of determining the question of special Exchequer grant.

Section 9, Leasehold Reform Act

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will publish the evidence and information submitted to his Department, upon which the detailed provisions of Section 9 of the Leasehold Reform Act were drawn up.

This Section was fully debated in Parliament and I do not feel that I can usefully add to the explanations then given of these legislative proposals which have now become law.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, whether he will issue an official leaflet giving guidance as to the proper basis of making a valuation under Section 9 of the Leasehold Reform Act 1967.

My right hon. Friend has no authority to interpret an Act of Parliament; only the courts can do this. The Leasehold Reform Act makes provision for arbitration by the Lands Tribunal in the event of disputes over valuation.

New Offices, Greater London

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will give the area of unoccupied new offices in Greater London and the amount of office space under construction at 31st March, 1968; and whether he will give comparable figures for earlier years.

The information requested is set out in the table below:

NEW OFFICE BUILDINGS—GREATER LONDON
DateUnder Construction sq. ftCompleted and Unoccupied sq. ft.
November, 196414,140,1565,090,750
June, 196610,993,1483,221,928
March, 19677,541,5143,170,475
March. 19685,370,2793,790,512

Television Sets (Ministers' Rooms)

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many television sets are installed in Ministers' rooms within the Houses of Parliament; and who is responsible for paying the licence fees for such sets.

Four sets are installed in Ministers' rooms at public expense. No licence fee is payable in respect of sets provided for Ministers in connection with their official duties.

Thames Pageant (Viewing Arrangements)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what arrangements are being made for watching the River Pageant on Friday 2nd August from the Terrace of the House of Commons.

Parties of visitors not exceeding six in number and personally escorted by a Member may visit the Terrace after 6 p.m. on Friday, 2nd August, to watch the Thames Pageant. Entrance will be via New Palace Yard and the Terrace Entrance. The Refreshment Department will be closed at this time.

Overseas Development

Aid Programme

asked the Minister of Overseas Development if he will list the total aid given to each overseas country since October, 1964, or any convenient date about that time, and indicate what percentage of such aid was tied to the purchase of United Kingdom goods or services.

The total aid given by the United Kingdom to each overseas country in 1965 and 1966 are shown in the June, 1967, edition of "British Aid: Statistics of Official Economic Aid to Developing Countries", which is deposited in the Library of the House. The equivalent figures for 1967 will shortly appear in the 1968 edition.The approximate proportions of our bilateral financial aid tied to British goods and services amounted in 1965 to 56 per cent., in 1966 to 59 per cent., and in 1967 to 60 per cent. Because of the special nature of the payments, expenditure on technical assistance, pensions and compensation, refinancing and other compensatory payments has been left out of account in calculating these percentages. Approximately two-thirds of the total programme is spent on goods or services from this country.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what overseas aid has been granted, or authorised to be granted, to Nepal since October, 1964; and for what special project grants have been made.

Grant aid disbursed since October, 1964, amounts to about £434,000: it has been used for a broadcasting transmitter, printing machinery, electricity and water supply projects and other development purposes. A loan for a further £249,000 has been made available for electrification. Technical assistance in various fields has been given to the value of about £430,000. These figures include estimated amounts for 1967–68. As I explained in my reply of the 20th June to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Hampstead (Mr. Whitaker) we envisage additional grant and loan aid for road construction.— [Vol. 766, c. 174.]

Singapore Base (Withdrawal)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what sums are being granted to Singapore arising directly from the withdrawal from the base there.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave my hon. Friend the Member for Hampstead (Mr. Whitaker) on 30th May.—[Vol. 765, c. 2115–16.]

Post Office

Special Stamps

asked the Postmaster-General if he has now approved the programme of postage stamps for 1969; and if he will state the occasions for which stamps will be released, as well as their values, in 1969.

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will now announce his programme of postage stamps for 1969.

I have decided on the following general programme of special stamps in 1969:January: A pictorial issue on British ships.April: Stamps to mark notable anniversaries.May: A pictorial issue on British architecture. This is the first of what we intend to be an annual series continuing for a number of years and illustrating architecture typical of various parts of Britain at various periods.July: An issue to celebrate the investiture of the Prince of Wales.

October: Stamps showing Post Office history and activities. November: Christmas stamps.

Details of values and dates of issue will be announced later.

Two-Tier Delivery Service

asked the Postmaster-General if, when the two-tier letter post is introduced on 16th September, he will ensure that letters from hon. Members to Ministers, chief officers of local authorities and heads of nationalised industries are delivered by first class mail; and if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT an up-to-date list of addresses for whom official paid envelopes may be used.

Provided these letters bear an indication that first class service is required they will be given it.I am unable to give a complete list of addresses for which the hon. Gentleman asks. My right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer has authorised the use of official paid envelopes for letters sent, on matters arising out of the discharge of an hon. Member's Parliamentary duties to:

  • (a) Central, regional and local offices of Government Departments,
  • (b) The local committees and boards of the Health Service,
  • (c) The headquarters, regional, area or local offices of nationalised industries, and
  • (d) The clerks and heads of departments in individual local authorities.
  • asked the Postmaster-General what is the cost involved in transferring to the new postal letter charges, and in supplying each household in the country with a circular to explain the service.

    Just under £400,000 will be spent on publicity, training and additional equipment in launching the new services. It will cost about £50,000 to deliver the household leaflet.

    Departmental Research (Private Industry)

    asked the Postmaster-General what payments are made into public funds by private firms which have access to the techniques and expertise acquired by his Department's research team.

    The techniques and expertise, to which I referred in my Answer to a Question from my hon. Friend on 19th July, consist of the standard of cleanliness required during manufacture of the transistors, the methods of handling the raw materials and of detecting hidden blemishes in the finished product, and the standards for acceptance or rejection.It is our normal practice to charge industry suitable fees for the use in their commercial business of patents and designs which result from our research. We have about 200 of these agreements, including one for a bonding machine used in the manufacture of transistors. We have not charged industry a fee for looking at our transistor laboratories because many of the transistors which industry makes will be used in our submarine cable systems and it is in our interests, as well as in the interests of exports, for them to acquire similar manufacturing expertise.—[Vol. 768, c. 287.]

    Rowner, Gosport (Post Offices)

    asked the Postmaster-General why he refuses to establish a new sub-office in Rowner, Gosport, in view of the fact that there are no post offices within half to one mile of this new and busy community composed largely of pensioners.

    There are already four post offices within a mile of the shops on Peel Common Estate, Rowner, and I would not be justified in opening a further one in this area.

    Telecommunications Industry (Industrial Reorganisation Corporation Report)

    asked the Postmaster General what progress he has made with his consideration of the Industrial Reorganisation Corporation Report on the telecommunications industry; and if he will make a statement.

    The Post Office is mainly concerned with those part of the I.R.C. Report dealing with procurement policy, R. & D. and Post Office manufacturing policy. As a result of discussions with the telecommunications industry, I am now able to say how I propose to proceed.now able to say how I propose to proceed.So far as procurement is concerned, the primary Post Office objectives are to obtain what is needed at the right time and in such a way as to secure the best value for money spent; to do so in conformity with the principles of the White Paper on Public Purchasing and Industrial Efficiency (Cmnd. 3291) and in this way to help promote a British telecommunications industry which is strong and efficient at home and abroad. These objectives are entirely consistent with the I.R.C. view that the purchase of exchange equipment should:

  • (i) be based on competitive tendering as far as practicable;
  • (ii) but assure regular suppliers of continuity of orders so long as their price, quality and delivery are satisfactory and give the more efficient amongst them the opportunity of gaining an increasing share of the business;
  • (iii) allow entry into the industry of any newbona fide supplier who is prepared to make a full contribution to the development of the industry.
  • I accept and will implement all these principles as the basis of telecommunications purchasing policy generally, but would like to give a little more detail about the application of the first two in particular sectors of our procurement.

    Telephone apparatus and transmission equipment are already being bought competitively and this will continue with some changes suggested by the I.R.C. (such as the introduction where practicable of longer term contracts). Cables are also bought competitively but the question whether the procedures need to be modified in the light of the I.R.C. Report has yet to be discussed with the cable manufacturers.

    Exchange equipment is at present being purchased on a Bulk Supply Agreement basis, the Agreement which expired on 31st March, 1968 having been extended temporarily as announced by my predecessor in his preliminary statement on changes in Post Office procurement policy on 28th March, 1968. As he then indicated, the intention is to terminate the Agreement at the earliest practicable date and the suppliers will then tender competitively for Post Office needs. The precise method of tendering has still to be worked out, but the present intention is as follows. In order to allow for some continuity of production, as recommended by I.R.C., established suppliers (at present, S.T.C., G.E.C./A.E.I, and A.T.E. and Ericsson of the Plessey Group) would be guaranteed between them, subject to continued efficient performance, a proportion of the total requirement, reducing within two years to 50 per cent. Their share of the business above this level would be decided competitively on the basis of current tenders. Their share of the guaranteed proportion would depend on their competitive position as reflected in their total output for the Post Office in the previous year. In exchange for this guarantee, any profit above a level to be negotiated would be shared between the Post Office and the supplier, such profits on exchange equipment being certified by independent accountants for each firm.

    Tenders for all telecommunications plant will be adjudicated on the basis of price, delivery, performance and quality, taking account of such wider considerations as are or may be relevant and consistent with the basic procurement objective.

    As regards research and development there will be arrangements for consultation on a multilateral or bilateral basis as appropriate so that the Post Office may establish and maintain definitions of system requirements against which performance specifications can be published.

    As regards manufacture by the Post Office, the I.R.C. Report suggested no reason to change current Post Office policy and no early change in the existing scale or scope of the Post Office factories is planned.—[Vol. 761, c. 316–17.]

    Post Office Corporation

    asked the Postmaster-General what arrangements he proposes to make to ensure consultation between the proposed Post Office Corporation and the users of its services throughout the United Kingdom.

    In addition to the national Users' Council proposed in the White Paper on the Reorganisation of the Post Office (Cmnd. 3233), the Post Office Bill to be introduced next Session will propose the establishment of three statutory Country Councils to represent the interests of users of Post Office services in Scotland, Wales and Monmouthshire, and Northern Ireland, respec- tively. The Bill will provide for these Country Councils to be appointed by the Minister sponsoring the Post Office Corporation.

    Advertising

    asked the Postmaster-General how much money he plans to spend in advertising during the current financial year; and what percentage this is of the total Post Office sales turnover.

    About £3 million; almost £1 million of this will be on advertising for staff.It will be 0·3 per cent. of our estimated total income for 1968–69.

    Wireless And Television

    Bbc Publications

    asked the Postmaster-General, what study he gave before sanctioning the increase in the wireless and television licence fee, to securing economies in the £1,000 a week subsidy which the British Broadcasting Corporation currently provides forThe Listener magazine.

    None. I understand from the B.B.C. that their publications, taken as a whole, earn a surplus which provides a valuable addition to income and is used for the programme and general services of the Corporation. In the year ended 31st March, 1967 (the latest for which published figures are available) the B.B.C. have reported that the net trading profit of their publications was £713,084.

    Bbc Television Reception, East Kent

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will consider establishing a booster station on the East Kent coast to improve B.B.C.1 television reception.

    The quality of the reception of their services is primarily a matter for the B.B.C, who have already established stations at Dover and Folkestone, besides the one at Canterbury.

    asked the Postmaster-General how the television signal of B.B.C.1 on the East Kent coast compares with the minimum standards laid down by his Department; and if he will make a statement.

    The television signal of B.B.C.1 varies in strength from place to place. In the East Kent Coast area it is generally well above the minimum level required for satisfactory reception, providing efficient sets and aerials are used.

    Gas

    North Sea Gas (Contract Price)

    asked the Minister of Power to what extent, in approving the price of 2·87d. per therm for the contract for natural gas between Phillips and the Gas Council, he took into account the proportion of the price per therm for Dutch natural gas, both internally and for export at the Dutch border, which is paid to the Dutch Government as opposed to the suppliers.

    I keep myself informed of developments in Holland and elsewhere which could be relevant to United Kingdom policy on the exploitation of the North Sea. Negotiations for the purchase of gas lie between the Gas Council and the producers and the Phillips contract was concluded without the need for Government intervention.

    Ministry Of Power

    British Steel Corporation (Holdings)

    asked the Minister of Power whether he has approved the application to sell off substantial sections of the holdings of the British Steel Corporation to Tinsley Wire Industries Limited; and if he will make a statement.

    Coal

    Production (Long-Term Marginal Cost)

    asked the Minister of Power what is, at present, the long-term marginal cost of producing coal at the pit head, in terms of pence per therm.

    The concept of the long-term marginal cost of production in an industry which is changing rapidly is complex. Much depends on assumptions about productivity, production levels and the rate of contraction.

    Mines And Collieries, Scotland

    asked the Minister of Power if he will list the mines and collieries in Scotland which were in operation at the time of nationalisation, and at the last most convenient date.

    I have asked the Chairman of the National Coal Board to write to the hon. Member.

    Scotland

    Windblow Areas (Clearance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what quantities of timber blown down in January, both from the Forestry Commission and from private woodlands, have now been removed; what percentage of the amount blown this represents; and what estimate he has made, in the light of this information, as to how long it will take to clear all saleable wind-blown timber in Scotland.

    The Windblow Action Group estimates that by the end of June (the latest date for which information is available) a total of 5·5 million hoppus feet had been moved. This is almost equally divided between the Forestry Commission and private woodlands, and represents 12 per cent. and 14 per cent. respectively of the amount blown down in each sector. The rate of progress is less than had been expected, but for the first few months production was mainly dependent on men and machinery already in the windblow area. These have since been supplemented, and I am hopeful that the clearance will be completed before the timber deteriorates.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what proportion of the timber blown down in Hurricane Low Q has now been removed and utilised; and what further proposals he has for speeding up this work, in view of the rapid deterioration of the timber;(2) whether he will now increase the sawlog allowance to mills in the South of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    As regards the proportion of timber which has been removed, I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North (Earl of Dalkeith) on 24th July. I have authorised the payment of transport allowances to encourage the clearance of the timber, but the rate of progress depends essentially on the growers and the timber trade. The case for extending the sawlog allowance is under consideration.—[Vol. 769, c.131.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will state the quantity of sawmill timber for which transport allowances have been claimed to the end of June, 1968; and what proportion of the windblown timber this represents.

    About half of the windblown timber is at sawmill size and to the end of June transport allowances had been claimed for 5,600 tons. While this represents only a very small proportion of the total windblown timber, it is not a significant figure at this stage since claims are necessarily in arrears of the actual movement of the timber.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what information he has received concerning the response to his appeal to woodland owners unaffected or marginally unaffected by the January hurricane to reduce felling by one-third until the end of September, 1969; and if he will state what percentage of them is known to him to be co-operating in this way.

    The Windblow Action Group has reported that about 75 per cent. of the private estates approached by the Scottish Woodland Owners' Association have agreed to reduce their future felling by a third.

    asked the Secretary of of State for Scotland what factors are mainly responsible for the slow progress being made in clearing windblown timber and delivering it to the available markets.

    I would refer the noble Lord to the Answer I gave him on 24th July. —[Vol. 769, c.131.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the import saving potential of the windblown timber in Scotland on the basis that it is used to the best advantage in those parts of the United Kingdom that are normally beyond the economic radius of the affected woodlands.

    There can be no reliable estimate of the import saving of the windblown timber on the basis suggested; but the noble Lord can be assured that I am keeping this aspect of the problem very much in my mind.

    Legal Aid

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many awards have been made in each of the last three years to unassisted persons in terms of Section 13 of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act, 1967; and what was the total sum paid out in each of these years.

    In 1965–66, one such award was made, amounting to £86. No payment was made in 1966–67. One payment of £300 was made in 1967–68.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proportion of criminal cases in the last three years in which the accused was in receipt of criminal legal aid resulted in a conviction.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total sum paid out of the Legal Aid Fund as expenses to the Law Society of Scotland in terms of section 9 of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act, 1967 in each of the last three financial years.

    The relevant information for the years 1965–66 and 1966–67 is contained in Schedules 8 and 8A of the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Reports of the Law Society of Scotland on the legal aid scheme. Audited figures for the year ended 31st March, 1968, are not yet available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will make regulations under Section 5(5) of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act, 1967 to bring income limits for legal aid applications under that section into line with those governing applications under Sections 1 and 2 of the Act.

    I have no plans at present for altering the income limits applying to the provision of legal aid under Section 5 of the Act.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many fees of 2s. 6d. in terms of Section 7 of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act, 1967 were paid into the Legal Aid Fund in each of the last three financial years.

    The number of such fees paid was:

    1965–664,880
    1966–674,200
    1967–684,880

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the number of applications for legal aid received under Section 5 of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act, 1967; and what was the total sum paid out under this section in each of the last three financial years.

    Applications for legal aid under Section 5 of the Act totalled 6,907 in 1965–66, 7,042 in 1966–67 and 7,279 in 1967–68. It is not possible to separate payments made to solicitors under Sections 1 and 5 of the Act because some solicitors exercise the option, where a Section 5 certificate is followed by a certificate under Section 1, to render a combined account.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total sum recovered from persons who have received legal aid in respect of criminal and civil legal aid, respectively, in each of the last three financial years.

    Contributions paid by assisted persons in respect of civil proceedings amounted to £96,922, £108,851 and £125,669 respectively. There is at present no provision for the payment of contributions in criminal cases.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total sum paid out in legal aid in the last financial year inconnection with cases in the Court of Session, High Court of Justiciary, the sheriff courts throughout Scotland and those in the county of Lanark.

    The information is as follows:

    £
    Court of Session488,024
    High Court of Justiciary60,963
    Sheriff Courts593,083
    Separate information is not available in respect of sheriff courts in the county of Lanark.

    asked the Secretary of Stale for Scotland how many applications were made for criminal legal aid in the last financial year; and how many were refused.

    11,541 applications for criminal legal aid (excluding appeals) were made in 1967–68, of which 1,368 were refused.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many applications for civil legal aid have been made in the last financial year, and how many have been refused.

    16,935 applications for civil legal aid under Sections 1 and 5 of the Act were made in 1967–68, of which 1,361 were refused.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what sum has been paid out in the last financial year under the provisions of Section 2(5) of the Legal Aid (Scotland) Act, 1967.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many solicitors received fees under the legal aid scheme in respect of criminal and civil cases, respectively in the last financial year.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total cost of the legal aid schemes in Scotland in the last three financial years; and how much of this was disbursed in connection with applications for aid in civil cases and criminal cases, respectively.

    The relevant information for the years 1965–66 and 1966–67 is coli-tained in Schedules 8 and 8A of the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Reports of the Law Society of Scotland on the legal aid scheme. Audited figures for the year ended 31st March, 1968 are not yet available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proportion of the sum disbursed under legal aid in the last financial year was paid to solicitors and how much to advocates.

    The information is as follows:

    CivilCriminal
    ££
    Solicitor's charges442,973423,677
    Counsels' fees87,38426,189
    Outlays151,05910,788

    Police Crime Squads (Helicopter Support)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will hold trials in Scotland, similar to those ordered by the Home Office, involving the use of helicopters by police crime squads.

    A trial involving the use of helicopters in support of police forces was held in the North-East of Scotland earlier this year.

    Schools (Scotland) Code

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he now proposes to implement all provisions of the Schools (Scotland) Code 1956 as amended by the Draft of the Schools (Scotland) Code (Amendment No. 1) Regulations, 1968, including the provisions relating to maximum number of children per class.

    As regards the Amendment No. 1 Regulations I would refer the hon. Member to my reply of 20th May. In general it is for education authorities to implement the provisions of the Schools Code.—[Vol. 765, c.18.]

    Offensive Weapons (Amnesty)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in view of the recent weapons amnesty in Easterhouse, Glasgow, he will seek powers to repeat the experiment in other areas with a high incidence of crimes involving offensive weapons.

    Prosecution for the possession of offensive weapons is a matter for the Lord Advocate, who has made it clear that any person in possession of a weapon solely for the purpose of handing it over to the police would not be liable to conviction under the Prevention of Crime Act, 1953. No further powers are needed.

    Land Commission (Staff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many employees are engaged in the work of the Land Commission in Scotland, of what ranks and where they work, to the last convenient date.

    At present the employees and grades are:

    Controllers and Assistant Controllers3
    Other executive grades58
    Draughtsmen4
    Clerical grades20
    Typing grades8
    Messengers, telephonists and cleaners5
    98
    All these work in Cumbernauld.

    Selective Employment Tax (Repayment To Farmers)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many non-industrial staff employed in the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries in Scotland are engaged in the repayment of Selective Employment Tax to farmers.

    Ten full-time, together with a contribution by general purpose computer processing and local investigation staffs equivalent to a further six full-time officers.

    Scottish Office (Staff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the adequacy of the numbers of the staff serving the Scottish Office; and if he will make a statement.

    The need for restraint in numbers of civil servants applies to the Scottish Office as to other Departments, but I shall seek to ensure that all essential services for which I am responsible continue to be efficiently discharged.

    Horticulture Improvement Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what sums have been paid out each year since its inception in Scotland in grants under the Horticulture Improvement Scheme.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave her on 27th February to the same Question. The only additional information I can provide is that grant paid in 1968 up to 30th June amounted to £44,308.—[Vol. 759, c.349.]

    Highland Natural Resources

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on research into and development of the Highland natural resources.

    This is a very wide field in which a number of authorities, including the Institute of Geological Sciences and the Macaulay Institute for Soil Research, are actively engaged. The Highlands and Islands Development Board for its part, is giving special attention to the possibilities of mineral exploitation and, in particular, has commissioned studies of certain mineral deposits in the north.

    Housing (Improvement Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the maximum improvement grant payable in Scotland under the Housing (Scotland) Acts, 1950 to 1964.

    Details, together with proposals for increases, are given in paragraphs 24 and 27 of the White Paper "The Older Houses in Scotland: a Plan of Action" which was published yesterday.

    Ophthalmic Services

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will permit patients to be re-examined by ophthalmic services within 12 months of a prior examination without the permission obtained in a special form.

    No. A further sight test within twelve months is not normally needed. Permission is readily granted in appropriate circumstances and in urgent cases is not required.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will seek to arrange to pay opticians a domiciliary examination fee.

    Negotiations are proceeding about the introduction in Scotland of special fees for opticians who undertake dispensing on domiciliary visits to patients at the request of hospital authorities. My right hon. Friend the Minister of Health and I are considering representations about such a fee made on behalf of opticians in the supplementary ophthalmic service.

    Scottish Grand Committee

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will move to allow the Scottish Grand Committee to transact its Parliamentary business in appropriate surroundings in Edinburgh during the new Session; and if he will seek to make similar arrangements for Glasgow and Inverness.

    This is primarily a matter for my right hon. Friend the Lord Privy Seal, but I am exploring the possibilities with him.

    Fruit (Carriage Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that charges for the carriage of fruit by passenger train are 20 per cent. higher than a year ago and that this increases the costs of fruit growers in Scotland; and what action he proposes to take to assist fruit growers.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to him on 25th July by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport. I have no powers to assist fruit growers with their transport costs.

    European Free Trade Association (Scottish Interests)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representatives of the Scottish Office attended to deal with the interests of Scotland when the present European Free Trade Association arrangements were concluded.

    This information is not readily available. I have no reason to think that Scottish interests were overlooked by the Departments concerned, or that the Scottish Office played an inadequate part, but the detailed arrangements were of course the responsibility of a previous administration.

    Rate Burden (Lanarkshire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the average rate burden per head of population in Hamilton and Lanarkshire, respectively, in the latest annual period for which figures are available; and in each case what is the approximate figure after deducting rates paid in respect of industrial and commercial properties.

    The latest information, for the year 1967·68, is as follows:

    Rate burden per head of populationAfter deducting industrial and commercial rates
    £s.d.£s.d.
    Hamilton271501320
    Lanarkshire241601320

    Forestry Commission (Hiring Scheme)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give a list of the machinery and equipment hired from the Forestry Commission at commercial rates since the announcement of his hiring scheme on 4th April, 1968.

    The machinery and equipment which has been hired by the Forestry Commission to date has comprised a logging machine, a tractor with winch and a debarker. Further enquiries have been received.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, in view of the lack of success of the scheme for hiring harvesting machinery from the

    18-YEAR-OLD ENTRANTS TO SCOTTISH UNIVERSITIES COMPARED WITH TOTAL
    18-YEAR-OLD POPULATION IN SCOTLAND
    University Session1960–11961–21962–31963–41964–51965–61966–71967–81968–9
    1. Population of 18-year olds in Scotland (a)75,10077,00079,00072,10087,50096,00085,40081,300 (est.)78,000 (est.)
    2. 18-year-old entrants to Scottish universities(b)2,1142,4242,3922,7023,3574,5724,3524,690(c)
    3. Percentages of 2 to 12·813·153·033·753·844·765·105·77
    Notes:
    (a) Population figures are as at 1st January of the session.
    (b) Figures relate tototal entrants. No breakdown by domicile of 18-year-old entrants to Scottish universities is available but the great majority will be of Scottish origin.
    (c) Information for 1968 is not available.

    Forestry Commission, he will reconsider his decision to refuse investment grants.

    In the light of the response to date it is too early to assume that the hiring scheme will not succeed. I have nothing to add to previous Government statements about investment grants.

    Marine Research

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many non-industrial staff employed at the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland are engaged in marine research; and what is the number in each rank.

    On 1st July, 1968, 129 non-industrial staff were engaged on marine research at the Marine Laboratory of the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland. In addition there were 20 Marine Officers on five research vessels. The numbers in each main scientific grade are as follows:

    Scientific Officer grade33
    Experimental Officer grade32
    Scientific Assistant grade53
    Research Fellows3
    Other scientific grades8

    University Entrants

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage of 18-year-olds in relation to total population in Scotland went to university as at 1st November in each year from 1960 to 1968.

    The available information on this subject is set out in the following table:

    Spina Bifida

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many known cases there are in Scotland of spina bifida among children; how many of these children receive training under five years of age; if he will name the centres at which training is received; and what plans he has for the future training of such children.

    The first returns from the registers of handicapped children which I have asked local health authorities to set up are only now coming in and I am not yet in a position to provide statistics about children with spina bifida. Training is provided in the hospital where the condition was originally treated and in a number of associated medical units. Future needs of all groups of handicapped children will be studied further when full information about the services required is available from the registers.

    Roads (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what sum it is intended to spend in the next period of one year on roads in central Scotland; and whether this will include removal of the weight restrictions on the A.827 on bridges over the Tummel at Ballinluig and over the Tay at Grandtully.

    Expenditure by the Government and local authorities on the new construction and improvement of roads in central Scotland (or serving it) is estimated to be £31·2 million in the current financial year. (This category of roads does not include any roads in Perthshire). No proposals have reached me as regards the Ballinluig bridge. I have not so far been able to provide for the improvement of the bridge at Grandtully, in view of higher priorities elsewhere in Scotland.

    Perth Prison (Incident)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the incident at Perth Prison on Wednesday, 24th July in which four prison officers were injured.

    In this incident four prison officers sustained injuries. Three of them were treated in hospital but were allowed home. All four are still unfit for duty. A prisoner has been charged with assault; two other prisoners who were present took no part in the incident.

    Police Forces (Manpower)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the shortage on establishment of police officers in Scotland at the latest convenient date; and what was the breakdown of the shortage in the various parts of Scotland.

    The total shortage of police officers in Scotland compared with authorised establishments at 30th June, 1968 was 859. The Breakdown as between various forces was as follows:

    City end Burgh Forces
    Aberdeen6
    Dundee31
    Edinburgh135
    Glasgow498
    Inverness
    County and Combined Forces
    Angus8
    Argyll7
    Ayr14
    Berwick, Roxburgh-and Selkirk7
    Caithness2
    Dumfries and Galloway16
    Dunbartonshire37
    Fife19
    Inverness-shire2
    Lanarkshire13
    Lothians and Peebles33
    Orkney
    Perth and Kinross5
    Renfrew and Bute
    Ross and Sutherland1
    Scottish North-Eastern Counties
    Stirling and Clackmannan24
    Zetland1
    Total859

    School Building (Hamilton)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will announce the projects he has approved for the school building programme 1968–69 for the Hamilton constituency; and how much has been allotted for this purpose.

    An extension to Holy Cross High School, Hamilton, estimated to cost £610,000, forms part of the Lanarkshire Education Authority's programme of school buildings to start in 1968–69.

    Educational Reorganisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what county towns in Scotland will have no senior secondary schools after the present proposals for educational reorganisation in Scotland have been carried out.

    There is no statutory definition of the term "county town". If the hon. Lady will tell me the information she would like I will try to provide it for her.

    Physiotherapists (Special Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what discussions he has had with the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy on the question of peripheral allowances; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will extend to physiotherapists the special allowances which are available to certain hospital medical staff in areas where there is extreme difficulty in recruiting staff.

    No discussions have taken place between my Department and the Chartered Association of Physiotherapy on the question of peripheral allowances although written representations were received earlier this year to which a reply has now been sent by my Department. The introduction of allowances for physiotherapists working in peripheral hospitals would be a matter for the appropriate committee of the Whitley Councils for the Health Services.

    Regional Hospital Boards (Membership)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the organisations he consults before making appointments to regional hospital boards; and if he will also list the organisations which regional hospital boards consult before they make appointments to hospital boards of management.

    For the information asked for in the first part of the Question I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given on 5th December, 1967 to the hon. Member for Inverness (Mr. Russell Johnston). As regards appointments to boards of management, regional hospital boards are required by statute to consult local health authorities and executive councils in their area, senior medical and dental staff in the hospitals concerned and, where appropriate, universities. In addition, they consult various other bodies and organisations to ensure that the membership of boards of management is drawn from people with a wide range of interest and experience. Regional boards are also prepared to consider any names submitted by other bodies and individuals not formally consulted.

    Trondra-Burra Isle Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made on the Trondra-Burra Isle Scheme; and if he will make a statement.

    Zetland County Council has decided on revised proposals providing for the new road to cross Lang Sound by a low-level bridge, instead of a high-level bridge as originally planned. The Council's application for the necessary navigational consent is now being considered by my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade.

    Technical Teachers (Recruitment And Training)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has completed his consideration of the Report of the Scottish Council for the Training of Teachers on the Future Recruitment and Training of Technical Teachers.

    Aluminium Smelter, Invergordon (Electricity Supply)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland to what extent the new smelter at Invergordon will be provided with electricity at a price lower than cost; and whether the difference will be borne by consumers in the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board area, the South of Scotland Electricity Board area, or both.

    The contractual arrangements have been carefully designed to ensure that the smelter will bear the full cost of the power and that no burden will fall on other consumers.

    Social Security

    Supplementary Benefit, Lanarkshire

    asked the Minister of Social Security how many persons were in receipt of supplementary benefit in Lanarkshire and in the Hamilton constituency, respectively, during the month of January, 1968; and of these how many received an extra fuel allowance.

    Figures are not available for local authority areas. In January, 1968 the four offices wholly within Lanarkshire were issuing supplementary benefit to almost 25,700 persons. Of these about 8,200 were covered by the Hamilton office, which deals with the Hamilton constituency and some other parts of the county. Special needs, including extra fuel, are normally covered by the long-term addition. Where this is inadequate for the total extra expenses further additions can be made but statistics on these are not kept locally.

    Pension Rates (Scottish Old-Age Pensioners Association Conference)

    asked the Minister of Social Security what representations she received from the Scottish Old-Age Pensioners Association following their annual conference on 8th and 9th May, 1968, about the present rates of pensions; and what reply she has sent.

    The Scottish Old-Age Pensioners Association has made representations about a review of pension rates. I shall be replying shortly.

    Old People (Special Needs)

    asked the Minister of Social Security what plan she has to grant additional benefit to old persons during periods of severe winter weather for extra fuel.

    The Supplementary Benefits Scheme provides a long-term addition for old people to take account of special needs such as extra fuel. The basic rates of benefit and the long-term addition are being increased in October. Where the long-term addition is insufficient to cover an individual's extra expenses, the Supplementary Benefits Commission can make further provision.

    Retirement Pensioners (Tobacco)

    asked the Minister of Social Security what plans she has for the distribution of tobacco coupons to retirement pensioners.

    Technology

    European Airbus

    asked the Minister of Technology when he expects to sign a firm agreement with the French and German Governments for the development of the European Airbus; and if he will make a statement.

    I must ask my hon. Friend to await the outcome of my meeting with French and German Ministers planned for 2nd August, at which we shall review the outcome of the project definition stage.

    British Airliner Project

    asked the Minister of Technology what support he proposes to give for the development of a 50–60 seater all-British airliner.

    I have had no request for support for an aircraft of this type. I will consider any firm proposals that may be put to me.

    Short Brothers And Harland Limited (Interim Finance)

    asked the Minister of Technology whether he has reached a decision on the interim finance needed by Short Brothers and Harland Limited while their proposals for financing their long-term programme are being considered.

    Yes. As the House was informed on 24th June, 1968 a firm of chartered accountants has been asked to assist my Department in considering Shorts' long-term proposals. I expect to receive their report by the middle of August and decisions will be taken as soon as possible thereafter. In order to supplement the working capital of the company in the meanwhile, my Department is offering a loan of £1 million. A Supplementary Estimate for this sum will be presented in due course; in the meantime an advance will be made from the Civil Contingencies Fund.—[Vol. 767, c. 15–16.]

    Board Of Trade

    Rolls-Royce Limited (Industrial Development Certificate)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the serious loss of jobs and job opportunities to Cardiff and adjacent development areas as a result of the closure of Rolls-Royce, Cardiff, he will now withdraw the industrial development certificate he granted to Rolls-Royce for expansion at Bristol.

    I am satisfied that the project for which an industrial development certificate was granted could not reasonably be undertaken except in the immediate area of Bristol.

    Employment Incentives (Caerphilly)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what measures he intends taking to introduce additional factories into the Caerphilly constituency in order to provide employment for those signing the unemployment register and for those threatened with redundancy through pit closures.

    The full range of development area incentives is available in Caerphilly and my Department takes every opportunity of bringing the advantages of locating in the area to the attention of suitable firms. Since the beginning of 1966 industrial development certificates for 2 million sq. ft. of factory building have been issued, which are estimated by the applicant companies to provide over 4,500 jobs of which over 3,100 are jobs for males. Just outside the constituency a Board of Trade factory of 29,000 sq. ft. at Bargoed has been completed this year and allocated and another advance factory of 25,000 sq. ft. has been authorised and a site selected, and these will provide additional employment in the area.

    Loss Of "Titanic" (Petition)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he has completed his consideration of the Second Petition which the Mercantile Marine Service Association submitted to him on 4th March last about the loss of the "Titanic"; and if he will make a statement.

    I have considered this further Petition very carefully in consultation with my right hon. Friend the Attorney-General.When the first Petition was submitted by the Mercantile Marine Service Association in 1965, the Board of Trade concluded after a full examination that there was no reason to believe that there had been a miscarriage of justice. The Board also considered that, having regard to the time which had elapsed and the death of the great majority of the persons concerned, the Board's discretionary power to order a re-hearing should not be exercised. The Board's views on these two aspects of the matter remain unchanged.The only new question arising from the second Petition is whether the evidence referred to in the Petition is such that I am required to order a re-hearing under the provisions of Section 475(1)(a) of the Merchant Shipping Act, 1894. I am advised, however, that the provisions of the Act do not impose upon me an obligation to order a re-hearing, primarily because the evidence submitted is not evidence which could not have been produced at the Inquiry but also because that evidence is not "important" within the meaning of the Section. In these circumstances I see no reason to depart from my predecessor's view that a re-opening of the Inquiry would serve no useful purpose.

    Turnhouse Airport, Edinburgh

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether the negotiations about the future of Tumhouse Airport, Edinburgh, have been concluded; and when the construction of a new runway and terminal buildings is expected to begin.

    I am not yet in a position to add anything to the reply which my predecessor gave to the hon. Member on 3rd April.—[Vol. 762, c. 95.]

    Raspberry Pulp (Yugoslav Imports)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will now make a final statement on the outcome of his investigation into the case for applying anti-dumping duties against imports of raspberry pulp from Yugoslavia.

    No. I have nothing to add at present to my reply of 19th July to the hon. Member, but I will reply to the National Farmers' Union of Scotland as soon as I am in a position to do so. I will also write to the hon. Member.—[Vol. 768, c. 287.]

    Roads

    Scotland (Mileages)

    asked the Minister of Transport what the total mileage of motorways and roadways is in Scotland and England, respectively, to the most convenient date; and what additional mileage is planned for completion by the end of 1968 in each country.

    Motorway mileages in England and Scotland on 24th July, 1968 were 508 and 29 miles respectively. The further motorway mileage planned to be completed up to 31st December, 1968 in the two countries is estimated at about 34 miles and 8 miles.The mileages of other roads are given below as at 1st April, 1967 for England and 16th May 1967 for Scotland. These are the latest dates for which figures are available.

    EnglandScotland
    All purpose trunk roads5,3911,944
    Principal roads14,2234,520
    Others133,32322,374
    Comparable figures of the additional mileages in each of these categories planned for completion by the end of 1968 are not readily available, except in the case of trunk roads, where the mileages of road on a new line to be completed are 40 and 5 respectively. A large part of the work which will be completed over this period consists of the improvement of existing roads to dual-carriageway standard and other improvements which will not result in any increase in the total mileages.

    Wool Road, Saddleworth (Improvement Scheme)

    asked the Minister of Transport when he now expects the Wool Road improvement scheme at Saddleworth to be completed.

    I understand that West Riding County Council, who are the highway authority, expect work to be completed by the end of August.

    South Coast Trunk Rood Burridge

    asked the Minister of Transport why, nine weeks after his Department received the application of the Burridge Residents Association for an interview with his officials on the subject of the line of the new South Coast Trunk Road through Burridge, Hampshire, he has now declined to grant such an interview; and why he has not replied to the Association on the merits of their representations.

    Many factors concerning the whole route of this road between Portsbridge and Cadnam are in course of assessment. It would be unprofitable to discuss or comment on details of a part of it at this stage.

    Dereham—Wymondham Road

    asked the Minister of Transport what steps he is taking to ensure that the road between Dereham and Wymondham is improved so as to be suitable for the additional bus services recommended by the Transport Users' Cosultative Committee for East Anglia if the passenger train services linking these towns are withdrawn.

    We received the report of the Transport Users' Consultative Committee for the East Anglian Area on the proposed closure of passenger train services between Dereham and Wymondham on 16th July. Before reaching a decision we will be examining the alternative bus services proposed by the Railways Board and the Transport Users' Consultative Committee together with the report of our Divisional Road Engineer on roads in the area.

    Ports

    Deep-Water Ports

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will list ports of the United Kingdom which fall within his Department's category of deep-water ports, s:ating in each case the relevant factors regarding the depth of water and the maximum tonnage ship which can be accommodated.

    There is no general standard for deep-water ports; requirements vary according to the needs of different trades and commodities. I am writing in more detail to the hon. Member.

    Railways

    Richmond-Darlington Line

    asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the report he has received from the Transport Users' Consultative Committee, North-Eastern Area, on the Richmond-Darlington railway line and the hardship that will be created by the closure of this line, if he will withhold his consent to the closure.

    Before taking a decision on the Railways Board's proposal to withdraw rail passenger services from the Richmond-Darlington line, we shall examine all the social and economic aspects of the case in the light of the advice we receive, including the report of the North-Eastern Area Transport Users Consultative Committee.

    Railway Stations (Amenities)

    asked the Minister of Transport what application has been made to him by British Railways for capital sanction for the future development and improvement of the amenities at King's Cross and St. Pancras railway stations.

    sked the Minister of Transport (1) if he will give a general direction to British Railways that they should provide an adequate force of porters at main railway stations throughout the country to assist elderly travellers and mothers with young children and incapacitated or infirm people with their baggage and to assist such people to negotiate difficult subways to and from platforms;(2) if he will give a general direction to British Railways to improve the amenities of their railway passenger stations by the provision, wherever practicable, of overhead bridges with sloping ramps, preferably mechanically moving, to gain access to or exit from island platforms in place of subways with steep steps which frequently prove difficult to negotiate by the aged, the infirm and mothers with children;(3) if he will give a general direction in the interests of the travelling public to British Railways to review the number of all the public telephone call boxes at main railway stations, and where practicable to arrange for the installation of such call boxes on main departure and arrival platforms as well as supplementing the number of those on main station concourses.

    No. These are detailed matters of management and a general direction would be entirely inappropriate.

    Passenger Trains (Non-Smoking Compartments)

    asked the Minister of Transport whether he will give a general direction to British Railways to provide many more non-smoking compartments on its passenger trains.

    No. It is for the Railways Board to keep the situation under review in the light of the changes and regional variations in public attitudes and demand.

    Locomotive Failures

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will give numbers of locomotive failures on British Railways main line routes in the years 1964, 1965, 1966, and 1967.

    No. This is a matter of operational management for the Railways Board.

    Transport

    Epileptics (Driving Licences)

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will seek to amend the Road Traffic Act with a view to permitting driving licences to be issued to epileptics provided they had not suffered from fits for a five-year period before the application for such a licence was made.

    As my right hon. Friend said in reply to the Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Willesden, West (Mr. Pavitt) on 14th June, on the advice of a panel of eminent consultants we are proposing to amend the existing law so as to enable driving licences to be granted, in suitable cases, to persons with epilepsy who are certified by a doctor to have been free of any attack for at least three years, with or without treatment, or to have attacks only during their sleep at night.We hope to introduce the necessary legislative changes early next Session.— [Vol. 766, c.

    80.]

    Motor Vehicle Test Certificates (Mileage Record)

    asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the numerous representations about certain car dealers who wind back the mileage indicators of used cars prior to resale, whether he has now completed his further consideration of making provision for the car mileage to be recorded on the test certificate at the time of inspection.

    Yes. Provision for recording car mileage will be made when the test certificate form is next reprinted. The new forms should be in use in the summer of 1969.

    Research (Advisory Body)

    asked the Minister of Transport what arrangements he is making to assess research needs in the field of transport.

    Advice is already available to me from the Advisory Council on Road Research and various other bodies, but with the widening scope and increased importance of research on transport I feel the need for more com- prehensive arrangements. I am therefore in consultation with my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales with a view to setting up a new central body to advise on transport research matters generally. Consultations about this body are nearly complete and I expect to make an announcement shortly

    National Finance

    Gallaher Limited

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the adverse report made by the Stock Exchange Takeover Panel of the methods employed in the bid by American Tobacco for Gallahers, details of which are in his possession, he will now reject the application for exchange control consent.

    I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave to a number of Questions from the hon. Member for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne) on 24th July.—[Vol. 769, c.143.]

    Tax Allowances

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the cost of the revenue last year and what is his estimate for the current year of the personal and married tax allowances, and the allowances for dependent relatives, daughters services, housekeepers, blind persons, age exemption relief, small income relief, life assurance premium relief and pension and retirement annuity premium relief, respectively.

    Sterling Balances (Interest Payments)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the approximate cost to the balance of payments of interest payments on the sterling balances in the financial year 1967–68; and what was the average rate of interest charged.

    A net interest cost of rather over £150 million. This is equivalent to an average rate of about 4½ per cent. on the net balances excluding non-interest bearing notes. The balances include a wide variety of accounts some of which do not bear interest.

    National Debt (Servicing Cost)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the cost of servicing the national debt in the financial years 1947–48, 1957–58 and 1967–68.

    Equity Capital (Government Investment)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the total sums of equity capital invested by the State since 1964 in companies in England, Scotland and Wales, respectively.

    Following is the information requested:

    £
    EnglandB.P. Ltd.196631,154,000
    I.C.L. (Holdings)1968350,000
    Beagle†
    ScotlandFairfields*1964530,000
    [now included in Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Ltd.]
    Wales
    * Registered in England.
    † The assets of Beagle Aircraft Co. are being purchased from Pressed Steel Fisher Ltd. for £1 million on 30th July.

    Hansard (Postal Delivery)

    asked the Chancelbr of the Exchequer whether in order to ensure to Members prompt receipt of HANSARD by post, Her Majesty's Stationery Office will use first class postal service for this purpose from October next.

    Her Majesty's Stationery Office has, for some time now, had a special arrangement with the Post Office for the urgent despatch and delivery of Members' copies of HANSARD. This arrangement will continue.

    Personal Allowances

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what he now estimates to be the cost to the Revenue of an increase of £20 in the personal allowance for a single person and in the personal allowance for a married person.

    Wales

    Land Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will call a meeting of the Land Commission in Wales and local authorities in Wales to explore in what ways the Land Commission may help these local authorities in acquiring and preparing derelict land in Wales for industrial purposes.

    No. Local authorities in Wales are already aware of the assistance the Commission may give in land acquisition in appropriate circumstances. The authorities are also aware of the service provided through the Derelict Land Unit of the Welsh Office, which is giving considerable assistance in schemes for reclaiming derelict land for industrial and other uses.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will list the purchases made to date by the Land Commission in Wales; and whether he will also list those sites which are in the process of being acquired by the Land Commission in Wales.

    No land has been purchased as yet, but 36 sites totalling more than 2,100 acres are at various stages of investigation.