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Volume 770: debated on Wednesday 23 October 1968

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 23rd October, 1968

Scotland

Fishing Ports And Port Markets Conference

2.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has now received a report from his representative observer at the Fishing Ports and Port Markets Conference held in Bremen from 23rd to 28th September; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. I understand that the conference produced a useful exchange of ideas and information on a wide range of topics affecting fishing harbours. These included the special problems of small ports, the planning of ports and facilities for inshore fishermen and the need for changes in traditional methods to improve the handling and marketing of fish. The conference invited F.A.O. to set up small working groups to receive papers on research into small ports and on planning and other aspects of fishing ports.

Depopulation

12.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will recommend the appointment of a Royal Commission on the causes of depopulation in Scotland.

Feu Duties

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his policy in regard to feu duties.

For the present I have nothing to add to the reply I gave on 16th October to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Hector Hughes).β€”[Vol. 770, c. 143–4.]

Rating

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has for reforming the rating system; and if he will make a statement.

Possible new or improved methods of financing local services will be considered in the light of what emerges from the Royal Commission on Local Government. We have already introduced the rate rebate scheme and the preferential rate for householders.

Electricity Generation

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what power station in Scotland generates the cheapest electricity per unit; and what is the fuel used.

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what power station in Scotland generates the most expensive electricity per unit; and what is the fuel used.

The gas turbine station Townhill "B" at Dunfermline, using distillate gas oil.

Russian Language Teachers

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many teachers of Russian are presently in secondary schools; if he is satisfied that the teaching of Russian in their curriculum will not be impaired as a result of recent reforms; and if he will make a statement.

In 1967, the latest year for which figures are available, there were in Scottish secondary schools 121 teachers qualified to teach Russian.For the remainder of the Question I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer given to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Hector Hughes) on 29th November last year.β€”[Vol. 755, c.

112.]

Electoral Boundaries Commission

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has yet received the Report of the Electoral Boundaries Commission; and what proposals he has to make in this matter.

I have not yet received the report of the Boundary Commission for Scotland. The Commission has until August, 1969 to submit it to me.

Cereal Deficiency Payments

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much money was owing to farmers in Scotland on 15th September, 1968 in respect of cereal deficiency payments for the 1967 crop.

Final payments cannot be made until the last of the crop has been disposed of. At 15th September just over Β£2 million remained to be paid.

Potato Harvesting

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the acreage of potatoes in Scotland still to be lifted; what representations he has received about the need for extra labour for lifting the crop; and if he will make a statement.

In the main potato growing areas over half the acreage has now been lifted. The Scottish National Farmers' Union has expressed its concern at the lateness of the harvest. The Scottish Potato Trade Executive has represented that children be granted exemptions from school in certain areas, but this has not been possible since 1962. I am keeping in daily touch with the harvesting position as it develops.

Water Boards (Headquarters Premises)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many applications lie has received from water boards in Scotland for borrowing powers to finance the purchase of premises; and what sums of money are involved.

I have considered requests from six regional water boards for authority to invest a total of Β£542,500 in acquiring or building headquarters premises, and have approved proposals estimated to cost Β£294,000.

Land Use

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has to introduce legislation to control the ownership of land in Scotland used as deer forests.

None. Machinery already exists in various forms to deal with land use and related questions in the highlands and islands.

Peat

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has for the future of the peat industry in Scotland.

The Macaulay Institute for Soil Research is continuing its surveys of peat resources, and with the Forestry Commission, is pursuing the development of forestry on peat soil. The Highlands and Islands Development Board, in whose area a substantial part of the Scottish peat deposits is located, is examining possibilities of further use of peat for industrial and agricultural purposes.

Rents (Payment)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what facilities exist for the payment of rent by corporation tenants at local post offices.

The Post Office Giro now provides an additional means by which tenants can be given the opportunity to pay their rents and I hope that all local authorities will consider making full use of this new facility.

Housing Completions

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proportion of the 199,000 houses completed in Great Britain in the first six months of 1968 and of the 187,000 houses completed in the first six months of 1967 were Scottish houses.

9Β·3 per cent. in each year. Details are given in the Housing Return for Scotland at 30th June, 1968, published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office.

Swimming Facilities

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much money is expended in Scotland to teach children and adults to swim; how many swimming baths there are in Scotland; if he will break down the total number into counties; and how many paid full-time and part-time teachers of swimming, respectively, are in public employment in each county of Scotland.

It is not possible to isolate expenditure on swimming instruction from expenditure on education and recreation generally, and separate details of the numbers of persons engaged in giving swimming instruction are not collected.The table below gives details by counties of the 76 public indoor swimming baths known to my Department and of the 41 indoor baths completed in schools since January, 1963. A further 33 school baths are at an advanced stage of planning or are under construction. Figures for outdoor public baths and for older baths it schools are not available.

Indoor Swimming Baths in Schools completed since January, 1963Public Indoor Swimming Baths
CITIES
Aberdeen12
Dundee23(in 1 establishment)
Edinburgh46
Glasgow1323(in 17 establishments)
COUNTIES
Aberdeen12
Angusβ€”2
Argyllβ€”1
Ayrβ€”1
Banffβ€”β€”
Berwickβ€”β€”
Buteβ€”1
Caithness11
Clackmannanβ€”2
Dumfriesβ€”1
Dunbarton33
East Lothianβ€”β€”
Fife41
Inverness11
Kincardineβ€”β€”
Kirkcudbrightβ€”β€”
Lanarkβ€”10
Midlothian41
Moray and Nairn12
Orkneyβ€”β€”
Peeblesβ€”1
Perth and Kinross12
Renfrew16 (3 baths in one establishment at Paisley)
Ross and Cromartyβ€”β€”
Roxburghβ€”2
Selkirkβ€”1
Stirling11
Sutherlandβ€”β€”
West Lothian21
Wigtown1β€”
Zetlandβ€”β€”
Total4176

Rivers

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will set up a general inquiry into the present condition of Scotland's rivers and the amount of work remaining to be done to restore their wholesomeness.

This was begun by the Scottish River Purification Advisory Committee some time ago.

Historic Buildings (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what grants have been made on the recommendations of the Historic Buildings Council towards the cost of repairs to buildings or bridges in each county in Scotland during each of the last five years.

I would refer the hon. Member to the comprehensive information about these grants in Scotland contained in the annual reports of the Historic Buildings Council for Scotland, which are presented to Parliament in accordance with the provisions of the Historic Buildings and Ancient Monuments Act, 1953. The report for 1967–68 will be published shortly.

Store Stock (Prices)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the price of hill lambs in the store market; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, if he is satisfied with the present level of return for producers of store stock; and if he will make a statement.

Prices realised so far at this year's autumn sales in Scottish store markets have been considerably above those in recent years for all classes of stock. For hill lambs the general level of increase compared with last year was about 20 per cent. during August and September, while for uncrossed cast ewes and weaned calves the increase was about 25 per cent. These figures reflect a more confident store trade which should result in an improvement in producers' returns.

Fishing Industry (Returns)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is satisfied with the level of returns in the fishing industry; and if he will make a statement.

With the subsidies we are providing I think the returns to the industry should be generally satisfactory. I have nothing to add to the statement about the Government support for the industry by my hon. and right hon. Friends on 15th May and 8th July and in the debate on fish subsidies on 24th July.β€”[Vol. 764, c. 1311–16; Vol. 788, c. 54–60; Vol. 769, c. 495–8.]

North-East Scotland (Economic Growth)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he will publish Professor Gaskin's study of North-East Scotland commissioned by him.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to my reply of 16th October to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Hector Hughes).β€”[Vol. 770, c. 137.]

General Teaching Council

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many teachers have not registered with the General Teaching Council.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many teachers have and have not registered with the General Teaching Council.

I understand from the General Teaching Council that 45,406 teachers have registered. As regards the number who have not yet registered, I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply given to the hon. Member for Ayr (Mr. Younger) on 21st October.β€”[Vol. 770, c. 216–7.]

Crimes Of Violence

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many crimes of violence were committed in Scotland during the latest convenient 12-month period; and what was the comparable figure a year previously.

On the basis of the uncorrected monthly returns by the police of crimes made known it is estimated that the number of crimes of violence in Scotland in the year ending 30th June, 1968, was a little under 3,600; in the year ending 30th June, 1967, about 3,000.

Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many prisoners were detained in Scotland at the latest convenient date; and what was the comparable figure a year previously.

On 8th October last there were 2,982 persons in prison in Scotland and 1,601 inmates in penal establishments for persons under 21. On 10th October, 1967, the figures were 2,816 and 1,315.

Police Recruitment

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many recruits have joined the police forces since 1st January, 1968; how many have left; what are the latest strength and establishment; and what were were the comparable figures a year previously.

Up to 30th September, 718 police officers were recruited to Scottish forces and 625 officers left. The total strength at that date was 10,340 and the authorised establishment 11,186.During the same period in 1967, 642 police officers were recruited and 602 officers left. The total strength at 30th September, 1967, was 10,232 and the authorised establishment 11,201.

Health Services (Reorganisation Proposals)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he will publish his proposals for the reorganisation of the National Health Service in Scotland.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer given to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Pollok (Mr. Wright) on 16th October.β€”[Vol 770, c. 139.]

Prescriptions (Rural Areas)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what modifications he has made to the prescription procedure in order to assist people living in rural areas.

None. But if the hon. Gentleman has any evidence of special difficulty, I shall be glad to to look at it.

Social Work (Scotland) Act

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what discussions he has held since July with local authorities about the need for voluntary amalgamation for the discharge of the duties to be laid on them by the Social Work (Scotland Act.

The possibility of local authorities combining for the purposes of the Social Work (Scotland) Act, 1968 was one of the subjects which officials of my Department discussed with representatives of the local authority associations on 18th October.

Private Manufacturing Investment

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will update the forecast for private manufacturing investment in Scotland in the period up to 1970 contained in the Scottish Plan.

No forecast of the amount of private manufacturing investment in Scotland in the period up to 1970 was made in the White Paper on the Scottish Economy.

Population (Working Group)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a progress report on the work of the Working Group on Emigration.

The Working Group on Population is meeting regularly and has assembled from many sources a good deal of material, which is now being examined.

Hunter Committee (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now make a statement on the Report of the Hunter Committee.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer I gave today to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Aberdeen, North (Mr. Hector Hughes) and my hon. Friend the Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell).

Halliday Report On Conveyancing

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the Government's proposed action concerning the Halliday Report on Conveyancing.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the Answer I gave today to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward M. Taylor).

Central Border Plan

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress he has made in implementing the Central Border Plan; and if he will make a statement.

I now have detailed comments on the consultants' report from the Borders Economic Consultative Group and all local authorities in the area except Roxburgh County Council. I expect to receive the County Council's views shortly and will then be able to decide how action can best proceed.

Contraceptive Advice And Appliances

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he intends to bring into effect the provisions of section 15 of the Health Services and Public Health Act, 1968 which empowers local authorities to supply contraceptive advice and appliances on social grounds.

Agricultural Earnings

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average agricultural wage for men over 21 years of age in the county of Midlothian.

It is not possible to state the average earnings of agricultural workers in individual counties. For Scotland as a whole the average weekly earnings, including allowances in kind and overtime, for male full-time workers over 20 years in the year April to March 1967–68 were Β£14 18s. 6d.

Board Of Trade

Air Services (United Kingdom Libya)

40.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he proposes to take to facilitate the improvement of the air services between the United Kingdom and Libya.

The airlines operating this route are free to meet and develop the demand for their services. I understand that from April next year B.O.A.C. intend to offer four services a week instead of the present two.

Car Ownership

43.

asked the President of the Board of Trade how he made the official calculation that the standard of living improved through a rise from 40 per cent. to 44 per cent. between 1966 and 1967 in the ownership of cars, in view of the fall in the production of motor vehicles, private and commercial, from 2,256,000 to 2,093,000 in the same period, as set out in the official publication, Britain in Figures.

The figures 40 and 44 per cent. relate to 1965 and 1966, not 1966 and 1967. They come from the annual Family Expenditure Surveys conducted by the Government Social Survey. A rise in the proportion of households owning cars is not inconsistent with a fall in the output of vehicles.

Civil Aircraft (Safety Measures)

45.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what proposals he has, arising from the findings of the inquiry into the destruction of the British European Airways Comet over the Mediterranean in October, 1967, for the improved safety of passengers; and if he will make a statement.

I am following up the recommendations both for a feasibility study of the methods of detecting explosive devices and for the development of means to facilitate the location and recovery of the flight data recorder when an aircraft crashes into water. In both cases there are difficult technical problems which will take some time to investigate.

46.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what steps he has taken to ensure that all planes used for package deal holiday trips are fully maintained, inspected, not overworked and controlled for this purpose by a total number of flying hours or a maximum number of years in service.

All aircraft used for public transport are required to be maintained in accordance with maintenance schedules approved by the Air Registration Board. These require inspection, maintenance and overhaul after specified intervals of flying and calendar time. No ultimate life for an aircraft is specified by the Air Registration Board, but they have a procedure under which safe "lives" are established for critical parts.

Trade Missions Abroad

46.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what sum the British National Export Council estimates it will save in the current and in future financial years by the recently announced cuts in financial help to trade missions abroad.

About Β£25,000 during the current financial year. This, however, is on a rising estimated total expenditure for this purpose. No precise estimate of saving in future years can be made at present.

Shipping Industry (Review)

51.

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will make a statement on the progress made by the Committee which is reviewing the organisation and structure of the United Kingdom shipping industry.

This inquiry is a major undertaking but the Committee are anxious to complete their report by the end of next summer.

British Week, Basle (Cancellation)

52.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the cost to public funds resulting from the boycott and subsequent cancellation of a British Week in Basle as the result of a protest against British arms supply to Lagos; and what action he is taking to obtain full information about Press demands for similar action in Germany, Holland and Belgium.

The estimated cost to public funds will be about Β£3,500. No British Weeks are impending in Germany, Holland and Belgium.

Horticultural Exports

59.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what means are being used to encourage the export of horticultural and allied products.

The Government's Export Services are fully available to exporters of horticultural and allied products. For instance, in recent years we have supported a number of joint ventures organised by the Federation of Horticultural Exporters at overseas trade fairs.

Toilet Requisites (Prices)

61.

asked the President of i he Board of Trade whether he has now considered the possibility of referring the increases in the price of toilet requisites to the National Board for Prices and Incomes; and what decision he has reached.

Visible Trade (Monthly Figures)

62.

asked the President of the Board of Trade when he proposes to publish the monthly visible trade figures for a period longer than the previous five months, consistent with the published quarterly figures.

An extensive run of back figures is already published in the Report on Overseas Trade, the Monthly Digest of Statistics and in Economic Trends.

Air Services (Prestwick-London)

63.

asked the President of the Board of Trade on how many days there are now flights from Prestwick to London; and if he will issue a general direction to the British Overseas Airways Corporation and British European Airways to improve the service.

There are now normally passenger flights on five days a week, and eight cargo flights per week. The frequency of all services is a matter for the commercial judgment of the airlines concerned.

Motor Cars (Japanese Imports)

64.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what are the value and numbers of Japanese motor cars imported so far this year; and what are the comparative value and numbers for 1966 and 1967.

Japanese motor cars imported up to the end of August of this year numbered 4,240, valued at Β£1,485,012. Figures for the corresponding period in 1966 were 1,209 cars valued at Β£458,544 and in 1967 1,063 cars valued at Β£405,905.

Airports (Cleaning And Catering Staffs)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT the rates of pay of cleaning and catering staffs at all British airports.

I can only answer for the staff directly employed at Board of Trade airports and by the British Airports Authority. Cleaning services at most of these airports and all catering services at them are provided by contractors. At Stansted and Prestwick, the British Airports Authority employ staff for cleaning public areas at a basic weekly rate of Β£15 1s. At the Board of Trade's aerodromes at Belfast, Cardiff, Hum and Edinburgh part-time cleaners are employed at the following basic hourly rates:

s.d.
Charge hand48
Leading hand47
Cleaner45

Airports (Landing Fees)

asked the President of the Board of Trade why under the prices and incomes policy, landing fees at airports run by the Board of Trade and the British Airports Authority are higher than those chargeable by municipal airports.

The recent increases in landing fees at Heathrow and Board of Trade aerodromes and in navigation service charges at those aerodromes where the National Air Traffic Control Service provide this service apply to international services only. They were imposed following devaluation to maintain our earnings of foreign exchange and being international in character were regarded as within prices and incomes policy.

Turnhouse Airport

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he can now state when radar will be installed at Turnhouse Airport; and when a new runway will be provided there.

It is estimated that the radar will be in operation by the summer of 1970. I am not yet in a position to say when a new runway will be provided.

Unemployment (Mexborough-Goldthorpe)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he is aware that the rate of unemployment in the Mexborough and District Employment Exchange area is now about twice the national average; and if he will make a statement on his plans to find work for these unemployed people.

I am aware that unemployment in the Mexborough-Goldthorpe area is substantially above the average for Great Britain. In this area and in other parts of the coalfield which have similar problems, we follow a liberal policy on industrial development certificates. Several new developments in the area, which have still to be completed, will provide additional employment.

Manufacturing Investment (Scotland)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the value of private manufacturing investment in Scotland qualifying for investment grants in the latest period of 12 months for which statistics are available; and what is his estimate of the value of private manufacturing investment in Scotland which would have qualified on the same criteria for investment grants in 1964, both at 1964 prices.

Investment by manufacturing establishments in Scotland in 1966 on which grant has been paid by 31st March, 1968, was Β£83 million at 1964 prices. I cannot say what investment during 1964 would have attracted grant; but total manufacturing investment in plant and machinery in Scotland in 1964 was about 30 per cent. lower than in 1966.

Investment Grants

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he still intends to end the temporary increase in investment grants at the end of the year.

Yes. As I made clear on 22nd July, 1968, the rates of investment grant will revert to 40 per cent.β€”20 per cent. on 1st January, 1969.

Ministry Of Defence

Meteorological Office (Computer)

66.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will consider installing a computer which is faster than the present Meteorological Office computer.

Yes. Specifications for a much more powerful computer for the Meteorological Office are being prepared in consultation with industry.

Rn Air Station, Brawdy

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is now in a position to make a statement on the future of the Royal Naval Air Station at Brawdy, Pembrokeshire.

Until decisions have been taken on the future support ashore for the Fleet Air Arm in the 1970s I cannot comment on the future of the Royal Naval Air Station at Brawdy.

Units Overseas (Newspaper Supplies)

68.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is aware that English newspapers cost Service personnel in British Army of the Rhine approximately four times the market price in in England; that The Times and the Financial Times cost 60 pfennigs, the Daily Telegraph, Daily Mail, Daily Express, Daily Mirror and Daily Sketch 50 pfennigs, and The Guardian 45 pfennigs; and if he will provide Service transport to enable English newspapers to reach them at prices bearing reasonable relationship to the market price in England, plus transport costs.

The prices which the hon. Gentleman is quoting are those charged by voluntary organisations under arrangements made with the Newspaper Proprietors Association. They are in fact 2Β½ rather than 4 times those charged in this country, and they involve the Association in a considerable loss. The prices of these newspapers are taken into account in fixing the Local Overseas Allowance. In addition there is a Concessionary Newspaper Scheme subsidised from public funds, under which units overseas are entitled to purchase newspapers on the scale of one per five persons at current United Kingdom prices.In these circumstances the answer to the last part of the question must be "no".

Hms "Resolution" (Expenditure)

69.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what he estimates the total expenditure on H.M.S. "Resolution" will be up to 30th October.

Territorial And Army Volunteer Reserve Ii

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the total strength of the Territorial and Army Volunteer Reserve II in officers and other ranks, respectively, for each month since April, 1967.

The information requested is as follows:

Officers TotalOther Ranks Total
1967:
April3,37532,825
May3,54833,674
June3,67934,064
July3,69334,050
August3,67434,027
September3,68134,007
October3,67133,896
November3,66533,620
December3,65033,327
1968:
January3,63732,953
February3,62032,688
March3,58032,455
April3,54532,225
May3,51732,128
June3,50432,304
July3,47331,983
August3,49132,164

Brigade Of Gurkhas (Redundancy Compensation)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence, in view of the fact that the economy of Nepal depends to a large extent on the money earned by the Gurkhas, what compensation and pensions will be given to them following the future cuts in their numbers.

As announced by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 16th January, 1968, the Brigade of Gurkhas will be reduced to total strength of 6,000 men by the end of 1971. Individual Gurkhas released or discharged are being compensated in accordance with the redundancy terms, agreed with the Government of Nepal, which have been placed in the House of Commons Library. Pensions will continue to be paid at pre-devaluation levels in Nepalese rupees.β€”[Vol. 756, c. 1583.]

Russian Naval Deployments

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what estimate he has made of the present strength of the Russian fleets in the Mediterranean and in the Persian Gulf; and what is the present strength of the fleets of the Western Alliance in those two seas.

Our latest information on Russian Naval deployments is that they have in the Mediterranean:

  • 3 Cruisers, including the Helicopter Cruiser "Moskva".
  • 7 Destroyers/Escorts.
  • 6 Minor anti-submarine escorts and minesweepers.
  • 4 Amphibious ships of 900 tons.
  • 6 Survey ships.
  • 4 Depot and support ships.
  • About 5 intelligence collecting trawlers.
  • About 8 submarines including probably 1 nuclear.
  • In the Persian Gulf: nil.
I cannot reveal information about the deployments of Allied ships.

British Defence Equipment Catalogue

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why he authorised the publication of the British Defence Equipment Catalogue by a privately-owned publishing firm; whether the official letter reference MD/HDS/11/13 over the name of Major-General Hall of the Office of Defence Sales was drafted by that officer; what steps he has taken to ensure that details of classified defence equipment are not supplied to the publishers concerned without vetting by his Department; and whether he will make a statement.

The object of the British Defence Equipment Catalogue will be to assist in promoting the export of defence equipment by making available at no cost to public funds a catalogue of unclassified items of equipment which British firms have available for sale. All entries in this catalogue will be subject to approval by my Department from the security aspect. Any sales will be subject to approval by the Government.All official letters from the Ministry of Defence have the authority of the Department.

Polaris Base (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is now the weekly expenditure at the Polaris submarine base and missile depot at Faslane.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what expenditure has been incurred on the Polaris submarine base and missile depot, respectively, up to 30th October; and how much further capital expenditure is to be incurred there.

DateVesselOffence
1964
1st August, 1964Louisson Nonry (BR 7475)……Crabbing inside limits.
13th August, 1964Ginette (AU 2496)……Crabbing inside limits.
29th October, 1964Etoile D'Arvor (AU 2409)……Crabbing inside limits.
2nd November, 1964Emigrant (CM 2898)……Crabbing inside limits.
β€” (CN 2525)……Scalloping inside limits.
3rd November, 1964Ginovanne (L 4788)……Illegal fishing. Warnedβ€”not charged.
2nd December, 1964Francoise Marie (D 1473)……Illegal fishing. Warnedβ€”not charged.
Montcauvaire (D 1599)……Illegal fishing. Warnedβ€”not charged.
1965
7th May, 1965β€” (MX 4017)……Illegal fishing.
14th May, 1965Mariel Yvonne (Z 463)……Illegal fishing.
Roger Denise (O 31)……Illegal fishing.
Hendriker Judith (O 180)……Illegal fishing.
Angelus (Z 542)……Illegal fishing.
20th May, 1965Antinea (EL 5443)……Illegal fishing.
22nd May, 1965Anglus(O 542)……Illegal fishing.
4th June, 1965Baoul Annette (CN 1904)……Illegal fishing.
Jolie Mouette (CN 1934)……Illegal fishing.
7th June, 1965Brigitte (CN 2558)……Illegal fishing.
Germain Gabrielle (CN 2170)……Illegal fishing.

Expenditures to date at Faslane and Coulport are about Β£28 million and Β£11 million respectively. Balances to be spent are about Β£7 million at Faslane and Β£1 million at Coulport.

Fishery Protection Squadron (North Sea)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will state the cost during each of the last five years of the Fisheries Patrol Squadrons in the North Sea and the names, nature and offences of all of the incidents in which they were involved for the protection of British fishing fleets.

The six coastal minesweepers of the Fishery Protection Squadron which provide the main naval Fishery Protection effort in the North Sea, are not permanently allocated to any specific area or fishing fleet: they are available for duty anywhere around the coast of the United Kingdom. Their running and maintenance costs are between Β£700,000 and Β£800,000 a year.No detailed records of incidents before the introduction of the 1964 Limits Act are available. Since then, there have been 80 incidents leading to 76 arrests in Home Waters, of which about one-third relate to the North Sea/East Coast/ Thames Estuary areas.Details of incidents involving the Fishery Protection Squadron in Home Waters since 1964 are as follows:β€”

Date

Vessel

Offence

12th August, 1965Annie Joelle (EL 5432)…Illegal fishing.
N. O. Des Ondes (EL 5350)…Illegal fishing.
Lysanne (EL 5433)…Illegal fishing.
1st September, 1965La Conquerante (SB 1388)…Illegal fishing (net offence).
7th September, 1965Venus (EX 609)…Illegal fishing.
3rd November, 1965Belle Chantal (CH 4378)…Illegal fishing.
1966
4th January, 1966Bienhereuse Therese (CN 1892)…Illegal fishing (net offence).
21st January, 1966La Jaconie (EL 5414)…Net offence.
30th March, 1966Enfant D'Arvor (BR 7496)…Scalloping inside limits.
23rd April, 1966Notre Dame De La Route (L 5288)…Net offence.
24th April 1966Marieanne De Bretagne (CH 4260)…Net offence.
19th July, 1966Angela (SC 24)…Illegal fishing.
24th July, 1966Gloire A Marie (B 2976)…Net offence.
17th August, 1966St. Agnes Bernadette (B 2657)…Net offence.
25th August, 1966Christine Chamalsilne (CH 4486)…Illegal fishing.
20th August, 1966β€” (VL 14)…Illegal fishing.
β€” (VL84)…Illegal fishing.
6th September, 1966Virgo Sancta (B 2943)…Illegal fishing.
23rd September, 1966Notre Dame De La Mer (CN 2601)…Illegal fishing.
24th November, 1966Notre Dame Des Dunes (B 2863)…Net offence.
25th November, 1966Josette Luccavolle (CH 4508)…Illegal fishing.
22nd December, 1966β€” (N 819)…Net offence.
1967
7th February, 1967Hubertine Madeleine (O 204)…Net offence.
2nd March, 1967Veronique Anne (E 5773)…Net offence.
20th April, 1967β€” (CM 3071)…Illegal crabbing. Warned and released.
29th April, 1967β€” (CPT 3173) (Russian)…Illegal fishing.
21st June, 1967Pilote Fromont (DI 1649)…Illegal fishing.
26th June, 1967Sinai (EL 5446)…Illegal fishing.
30th June, 1967Josette Luc Cavolle (CH 4508)…Net offence (2nd offence).
1st July, 1967Nelly Maccarty (HG 189) (Danish)…Fishing inside limits.
22nd July, 1967Rubjerelit (S 412)…Illegal fishing.
29th July, 1967β€” (WEA 148) (Polish)…Illegal fishing.
β€” (WEA 105) (Polish)…Illegal fishing.
β€” (HEL 114) (Polish)…Illegal fishing.
13th August, 1967β€” (HEL 113) (Polish)…Illegal fishing.
15th August, 1967Wiron III (UM 221)…Illegal fishing.
17th August, 1967Elly (VL73)…Illegal fishing.
Sakina Martine (KW 32)…Illegal fishing.
26th August, 1967Gerdientzie Jannie (SCH 48)…Illegal fishing.
7th September, 1967St. Agnes Bernadette (B 2657)…Illegal fishing (2nd offence).
22nd September, 1967Gloire A Marie (B 2976)…Illegal fishing (2nd offence).
Sainte Josse (B 2917)…Illegal fishing.
4th November, 1967Marie Simone (DG 2007)…Illegal fishing and net offence
15th November, 1967Chenonceaux (DZ 4063)…Illegal fishing.
18th November, 1967β€” (EL 5435)…Net offence.
21st November, 1967Le Clapetis (LR 5052)…Net offence.
28th November, 1967Keinaq (GY 654)…Illegal fishing Firth of Forth.
4th December, 1967Marieanne De Bretagne (CH 4260)…Illegal fishing (2nd offence).
10th December, 1967Toute Passe (AV 2139)…Illegal fishing.
1968
29th February, 1968Abbe Pierre (L 5089)…Net offence.
1st March, 1968Ludovic Pierre (L 5426)…Net offence
12th March, 1968Ile De Pantellaria (EL 5411)…Net offence.
10th July, 1968Marie Clare (CM 3074)…Illegal fishing.
14th July, 1968β€” (SCH 374)…Illegal fishing.
β€” (SCH 118)…Illegal fishing.
6th August, 1968Kavholm(R411K)…Illegal fishing.
14th August, 1968β€” (WR99)…Poaching (Wash area).
β€” (WR 147)…Poaching.
18th August, 1968β€” (MPPT 10) (Russian)…Illegal fishing.
5th September, 1968Virgo Maria (B 2786)…Illegal fishing and net offence.
Calopin (B 3021)…Net offence.

Polaris Submarines (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what he now estimates will be the total expenditure on the Polaris submarine programme; and what will be the annual cost of the four submarines when the programme is completed.

The capital cost is estimated at Β£350 million; and the annual running cost about Β£22Β·5 million.

Roads

River Trent Bridge, Keadby

70.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will authorise a new survey of the traffic problems across the River Trent Bridge at Keadby; and, since the bridge was recently working single-line, causing a three-mile traffic hold-up, if he will now take steps to build a new bridge.

A traffic survey was carried out this summer. Plans under consideration for dealing with this problem include the provision of a new bridge at Keadby.

Speed Limit Signs (Location)

73.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the bad placing of derestriction signs by some local authorities, he will take steps to set up a national survey in the interests of road safety, with a view to ensuring a check on the inadequate siting of such signs.

The Green Paper on speed limit policy recently published by the Department proposes a regular review of speed limits by local authorities, which would include the location of signs. We are now consulting representative organisations upon this suggestion as part of our general discussions on the Green Paper.

A5 Trunk Road (Grendon)

74.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans he has for making a dual carriageway on the A5 trunk road through the village of Grendon.

None. The expense would not at present be justified in view of the relief to be expected from completion of the M6-M1 link.

Speed Limits

asked the Minister of Transport (1) what is the speed limit for heavy vehicles and articulated vehicles on roads and motorways; and why cars towing caravans are restricted to 40 miles per hour on the motorways;(2) what speed is permitted on motorways for vehicles towing another vehicle.

On general purpose roads various limits apply to heavy vehicles according to their type and equipment. The main limits are:

Heavy goods vehicles (including articulated vehicles)40 m.p.h.
Public service vehicles50 m.p.h.
Other large passenger vehicles40 m.p.h.
Engineering plant12 m.p.h.
Locomotives20 m.p.h.
Tractors30 m.p.h.
(Lower limits apply when trailers are drawn)
On motorways the only speed limits, apart from the general 70 m.p.h. limit, are on certain vehicle/trailer combinations ("trailer" being defined as any vehicle drawn by a motor vehicle) viz.:

Public service vehicles drawing a trailer50 m.p.h.
Any other vehicle dawing a trailer with less than 4 wheels or with 4 close-coupled wheels (not being an articulated vehicle)40 m.p.h.
The last mentioned limit, which applies to most types of car-drawn caravan, was imposed because of the risk of instability at high speed, particularly when the combination of vehicles is not well matched.

Motorways And Trunk Roads (Central Government Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give his estimate of central Government expenditure on motorways and dual carriageways, respectively, in England from 1967 to 1970.

A detailed breakdown cannot readily be provided. However, between 1967–68 and 1970–71 central Government expenditure on new and improved motorways and trunk roads in England is planned to exceed Β£600 million. All the motorways and most of the trunk roads will be dual carriageways.

Estimates are not readily available for expenditure on dual carriageways on non-trunk roads.

Road Development, Northumberland

asked the Minister of Transport what financial help for road development is available to the Northumberland County Council during the years 1967–68, and 1968–69, and what proportion of such funds is allocated to the area of South-East Northumberland, and the Ashington, Newbiggin-by-the-Sea Urban District Council.

The information is as follows: β€”

Ministry funds committed in 1967–68Ministry funds committed or expected to be committed in 1968–69
Β£'000Β£'000
Northumberland County Council:
(a) Trunk Roads6,389696
(b) Principal road improvement grants2,7555,615
(c) Local Employment Act grants531
(d) 100 per cent, grants under special winter programme1,600*
South-East Northumberland:
(a) Principal road improvement grants2,5205,310
(b) 100 per cent, grants under special winter programme395*
Ashington U.D.C.:
(a) Principal road improvement grants617
(b) 100 per cent, grants under special winter programme88*
New biggin-by-the-Sea U.D.C.:
100 per cent, grants under special winter programme14*
* Allocation not yet determined.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will examine urgently the need for financial help to enable the Ashington Urban District Council to proceed with its road development problem, in view of the prevalence of 10 per cent. unemployed in the area.

Consideration is being given to the possible allocation to the Ashington Urban District Council of part of the sum authorised by the Government on road works to create additional employment during the winter months in the Northern Development Area.

Railways

Whitland-Pembroke Dock Line

71.

asked the Minister of Transport when he will make a statement on his decision regarding the future of the Whitland-Pembroke Dock line.

As the hon. Member was informed earlier this year, this closure proposal is one on which a decision has been deferred pending examination of the case for a social grant under the provisions of the Transport Bill. We expect to make an announcement about services which are being considered for social grant payment before the end of the year.

Waverley Line

asked the Minister of Transport what estimate he has made, in considering the application for closure of the line now before him, of the volume of freight that will be carried annually on the Waverley railway line following the implementation of the Transport Bill.

The closure proposal made by the Railways Board, to which my right hon. Friend announced his consent on 15th July, 1968, was for the withdrawal of passenger services. It is, statutorily, for the Railways Board to decide on the future of freight services on this line, but in reaching a decision my right hon. Friend did not, of course, disregard the extent of this freight traffic.

Transport

Lost Motor Vehicle Licences

72.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will take steps to issue temporary documents for display by those persons who have lost their excise licence and applied for replacement, pending the provision of a new licence.

There would be no advantage in time between the two necessary issuing processes. No action would be taken for non-display of a licence in these circumstances if there were evidence that a licence had originally been issued and was still current.

Garage Tyre Pressure Gauges (Checking)

75.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans he has to bring under the compulsory supervision of the Inspectorate of Weights and Measures tyre pressure gauges in garages.

I have no powers of compulsion and am not planning to seek them. My policy is to encourage more weights and measures authorities to adopt systems of checking tyre pressure gauges on a voluntary basis as is already done by many of them.

Motor Vehicle Licences (Payment)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that during 1966–67 the Post Office sent out 18Β·7 million sound and television licence reminders at an estimated cost of Β£350,000 and received revenue of Β£65 million; and, in view of the fact that motor vehicle licences vary from 3Β½ to 60 times the cost of radio and television licences, if he will consider introducing a similar system of issuing road fund licence reminders.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Bothwell (Mr. James Hamilton) on 26th March, 1968. The two situations are quite different. A vehicle excise licence has to be displayed and relates to a specific vehicle which can change hands quite frequently. A radio or television licence is not required to be displayed, and authorises the holder to operate equipment which may be changed without affecting the licence. β€”[Vol. 76, c. 247.]

Canoes

asked the Minister of Transport if he will arrange for a survey to be carried out to ascertain the number of people wishing to use canoes on the rivers of this country who are debarred from doing so by the action of landowners or other organisations.

No. But if my hon. Friend would care to write to me, explanning more specifically the problem he has in mind and how he thinks I might assist, I will look into it.

Parked Vehicles (Accidents)

asked the Minister of Transport what percentage of accidents occur during the hours of darkness to vehicles allowed to park in side roads without lights.

Concessionary Fares

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will seek to alter existing legislation regarding concessionary fares for retirement pensioners so that pensioners on retirement, 65 years of age for men and 60 years of age for women, can receive such concessionary fares as of right.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my right hon. Friend's reply of 5th July to my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Alfred Morris). β€”[Vol. 767, c. 281.]

Channel Tunnel

asked the Minister of Transport if he can now make a statement on progress in the Anglo-French talks on the financing of the Channel Tunnel.

The French Minister of Transport and I have completed our consideration of proposals for financing and arranging the construction of the Channel Tunnel submitted by three competing private groups earlier this year.We have noted with satisfaction the considerable progress made towards defining the technical and financial terms for a jointly acceptable solution: we are also agreed that certain aspects of all the proposals need further improvement and that we should not be justified at this stage in narrowing the field for further negotiations to any one group of the three.We have therefore established jointly-agreed guidelines for the use of the groups, who are being invited in the light of this further guidance to supplement their earlier proposals or, should any of them prefer to do so, to combine for the presentation of fresh proposals.We are confident that this final stage of talks will reach a successful conclusion leading rapidly to the choice of a private group to carry out further studies required for final assessment of the project and, given favourable results, to arrange for the Tunnel to be constructed.

Ports

Reorganisation

asked the Minister of Transport when he will announce his plans for the public ownership of the docks; and what steps he has for forms of democratic management of them.

As I stated in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Newport (Mr. Roy Hughes) on 21st October, I will make a statement on Port reorganisation as soon as possible. β€”[Vol. 770, c. 223–4.]

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

West Country Cheeses

76.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many cheese-makers in the South-West have had to cease production of British cheeses, and why.

At the request of the Cheddar and Caerphilly Farmhouse Cheesemakers Federation, production of West Country cheeses has been interrupted at 40 farmhouse dairies in order to keep production in line with sales. Sales are running at about last year's level, while the quantity of milk from the farms concerned has increased.

Near Butters (Imports)

77.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what success he has had in limiting the import of near butters in the current quota year to 9,000 tons in accordance with the agreement reached with New Zealand butter suppliers; what is the present stockpile of near butters; and if he will make a statement.

Since 1st April, 1968, imports of near butters and substances containing 50 per cent. or more by weight of butter fat, other than ghee, cheese and cream, have been permitted only subject to licences issued by my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade. These measures have been successful. Imports during the five months 1st April to 31st August totalled 2,900 tons. The present known stock of near butter in commercial hands is about 2,000 tons.

Cheese Imports

78.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, if he is satisfied with the response to his request to supplying countries voluntarily to reduce their cheese exports to the level of their average supply over the last three years; what further steps he intends to take to achieve this end; what representations he has received from the National Farmers' Union and the New Zealand Government in regard to the present position; and if he will make a statement.

I am in close touch with the National Farmers' Union, the New Zealand Government and the other Governments concerned in the matter of imports of cheddar-type cheese. Consultations are still in progress and as yet I can add nothing to the reply I gave on 16th October, 1968, to the hon. Member for Dumfries (Mr. Monro). β€”[Vol. 770, c. 350.]

Foot-And-Mouth Disease

79.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to what extent the Northumberland Committee will take evidence from farmers hit by foot-and-mouth disease in Herefordshire and Shropshire before publishing its initial report.

After its first meeting on 14th March, the Northumberland Committee issued a Press Notice inviting any organisations and others who wished to do so, to submit evidence to them. I understand that the Committee has taken both written and oral evidence from the National Farmers' Union and has met in Chester to hold discussions with representatives of local farming interests. It is entirely a matter for the Committee to what extent they seek further evidence from farmers, but I am sure they are prepared to consider evidence on any matters within their terms of reference from anyone who wishes to submit it

Wine (Annual Expenditure)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give in column form the approximate annual expenditure on wine for each of the last ten years.

I have been asked to reply. The estimated expenditure on wine in the United Kingdom, including personal and business expenditure, is:

Β£ million
195888
195994
1960105
1961118
1962118
1963130
1964153
1965163
196680
1967203

Cereal Levies (Revenue)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much revenue he has received from cereal levies since the raising of the minimum import price in July.

Cereal levies amounting to Β£59,300 have been collected by H.M. Customs and Excise between 1st August, 1968 when the increased minimum import price levels were introduced, and 30th September, 1968.

Economic Affairs

Birmingham

80.

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs if he will review the working of the Government's regional policies to take account of worsening employment and industrial development problems in the Birmingham area.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answers I gave to his similar Questions on 14th October. β€”[Vol. 770, c. 29–31.]

Hunt Committee (Report)

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what progress has been made by the Hunt Committee in its investigation into Grey Areas; and when the recommendations of this Committee will be made public.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer given on 17th October to a similar question by my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston upon Hull, West (Mr. James Johnson). β€”[Vol. 770, c. 572.]

Telephone Services

Cheltenham Area

82.

asked the Postmaster-General, in view of the rise in the ownership of telephones from 22 per cent. in 1966 to 25 per cent. in 1967, as set out in the official publication, Britain in Figures, what are the reasons for the shortage of telephones in the Cheltenham area.

The shortage results from an exceptionally high increase in applications for telephones in the Cheltenham area, and from the exchange equipment manufacturers' difficulties in matching the overall increase in Post Office requirements. We hope to bring new equipment into service next spring.

Telephone Calls (Number)

asked the Postmaster-General if he will provide figures to show to what extent the number of telephone calls made has significantly increased since the introduction of the two-tier postal system.

Calls handled at a sample of exchanges throughout the country were:

Week 10th-16th September2,235,000
Week 17th-23rd September2,228,000

Post Office

Two-Tier Postal System

asked the Postmaster-General what firm of advertising agents was employed in connection with the launching of the two-tier letter service.

Advertising Expenditure

asked the Postmaster-General if he will give figures to show the extent of the increase of expenditure on advertising by his Department during the first nine months of 1968 as compared with the similar period in 1967.Mr. Stonehouse:

19671968
££
Postal Publicity267,000412,000*
Giro93,000147,000†
Telecomms Publicity304,000533,000‑
Recruitment647,000657,000
* Includes approximately Β£320,000 for a public relations campaign and for part of the expenses of a campaign to introduce the two speed service.
†Publicity has been increased because of the introduction of the service on the 18th October. We may leed to spend much more on publicity in the next six months to encourage people to join and to use the service.
‑Includes a belated payment of Β£120,000 to the Contractors for expenses incurred in publicising yellow pages telephone directories and press publicity to encourage the public's correct use of the telephone and to stimulate off peak telephone traffic.

asked the Postmaster-General what percentage of official Post Office mail is posted by the first-class letter service.

I do not believe the hon. Gentleman would expect me to incur the expense of collecting this information from some 26,000 postal and telephone establishments; our internal instructions are much the same as the advice in our leaflet issued to businessmenβ€”use the first class service if you want your letters delivered as soon as possible and the second class service where the speed of delivery is not critical.

asked the Postmaster-General (1) what is the planned time for delivery of letters dispatched by the first-class letter service;(2) what is the planned time for delivery of letters dispatched by the second-class letter service.

First class letters should normally be delivered by either the first or second deliveries after the day of posting, except where long or cross country journeys make this impracticable. We aim to deliver second class letters one working day later than first class letters, but some take a little longer and some are delivered earlier.

asked the Postmaster-General (1) what percentage of the total of all letters was dispatched by second-class letter service in the weeks ended 21st September, 28th September, 5th October and 12th October, respectively;(2) what percentage of the total of all letters was dispatched by first-class letter service in the weeks ended 21st September, 28th September, 5th October and 12th October, respectively.

Proportions during the first four complete weeks of the new letter service were:

Week ended
Sept. 22ndSept. 29thOct. 6thOct. 13th
per cent.per cent.per cent.per cent.
Second class letters75727069
First class letters25283031

asked the Postmaster-General (1) what percentage of letters dispatched by the 4d. post was delivered by first post on the day after posting during the four weeks ended 14th September;(2) what percentage of letters dispatched by the first-class letter service was delivered by first post on the day after posting during the four weeks ended 12th October.

asked the Postmaster-General if he will provide figures to show to what extent letter post has increased or decreased since the introduction of the two-tier system.

Letter traffic is now about 5 per cent. higher than in August 1968, reflecting the usual seasonal increase.

asked the Postmaster-General what proportion of the total of all letters delivered in London was delivered by first post in the week ended 12th October; and how this compares with the same week last year.

asked the Postmaster-General (1) what percentage of mail dispatched by second-class letter service achieved the planned time of delivery in the weeks ended 21st September, 28th September, 5th October and 12th October, respectively;(2) what percentage of mail dispatched by first-class letter service achieved the planned time of delivery in the weeks ended 21st September, 28th September, 5th October and 12th October, respectively.

Our service observations are designed to give statistically reliable results for periods of a month; for the four week period in question 93 per cent. of second class letters and 94 per cent. of first class letters were delivered as planned.

asked the Postmaster-General whether second class letters posted in Arran for destinations in Arran have, at any time between 15th September, 1968 and 16th October, 1968, been taken to the mainland and returned before delivery.

asked the Postmaster-General how much overtime has been necessary to cope with the new postal system; what has been the total cost since the new system was introduced; and what has been the percentage of 5d. and 4d. post.

Some additional overtime is being worked, but this is due to a number of causes. It is too early to draw conclusions about the cost of the new service. About 29 per cent. of mail has been posted at the first class rate, and 71 per cent. at the second class.

Rugby Radio Station (External Training School)

asked the Postmaster-General whether he will make a statement on the future of the external training school at Rugby Radio Station.

The External Training School will remain at Rugby Radio Station until March, 1970, at least. The question of its location after that date will be reviewed towards the end of next year in the light of future training requirements.

Ministry Of Power

Hematite Ore

83.

asked the Minister of Power what proposals he has for utilising the hematite ore reserves in the North-West, and the United Kingdom.

I would refer to hon. Member to the reply I gave him yesterday β€”[Vol. 770, c. 249.]

British Steel Corporation (Membership)

asked the Minister of Power if he will list at the last convenient date, the names of the members of the Steel Corporation, indicating those representing directly the interests of the Scottish steel industry.

Present membership is:

Lord MelchettChairman
Dr. H. M. Finniston, Ph.D., B.ScDeputy Chairmen
Mr. M. Milne-Watson, C.B.E.
Mr. A. J. Peech
Mr. W. F. Cartwright, M.I.Mech.E.Members
Mr. T. R. Craig, O.B.E., T.D.
Mr. S. A. R. Gray
Lord Layton
Mr. N. C. Macdiarmid
Mr. P. A. Matthews
Mr. W. Molyneux, F.C.A.
Mr. Ron Smith
Mr. Raymond P. BrookesPart-time Members
Mr. Sidney Harris
Sir Cyril Musgrave, K.C.B.
Mr. Peter Parker, M.V.O.
Mr. Aubrey Silberston
Members have collective responsibility for the public sector of the steel industry as a whole. Mr. T. R. Craig, as Managing Director of the Scottish and North-West Group of the Corporation, is especially concerned with the interests of the Scottish steel industry, and Mr. N. C. MacDiarmid, as Managing Director of the Northern and Tubes Group, is specially concerned with the Corporation's tube making interests in Scotland.

Technology

F111 Aircraft

86.

asked the Minister of Technology if, following the third grounding of F111 aircraft on 24th September after another F111 crash on that date, he will take these events into account in negotiating the cancellation charges on this aircraft.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the Answer I gave to a similar Question by the hon. Member for Esher (Sir W. Robson Brown) on 14th October. β€”[Vol. 770, c. 8.]

Employment And Productivity

Industrial Training, Louth (Personal Case)

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will investigate why a Louth motor trader who in December, 1967 paid Β£45 training levy, and Β£111 in August, 1968, both cheques having been cleared by the bank, was refused training application forms by her Leeds office until these cheques had been cleared by her computer office at Wembley; and what action she is taking to stop this inefficiency in her Department.

Take-Over Bids (Consultation)

85.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether she is aware of the increasing number of take-over bids of firms and organisations where at no stage are the workers in the industries concerned consulted; and whether she will take steps to initiate a code of conduct to ensure that before such take-overs are finalised the workers concerned must be consulted and give their approval by means of a democratic ballot.

The need for consultation with employees and their representatives about all aspects of manpower planning and the handling of redundancies is stressed in the booklet "Dealing with Redundancies" published by my Department in July. A requirement that the acquisition of a company should be subject to prior approval by a ballot of its employees is neither desirable nor practicable.

Industrial Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will recommend the setting up of a Royal Commission to examine methods of reducing the 24ΒΌ million man days lost through accidents at work,

I would refer the hors.-Lady to the Answers given by my right hon. Friend on 21st October to similar Questions by my hon. Friends the Members for Sheffield, Heeley (Mr. Hooley), and Salford, East (Mr. Allaun). β€”[Vol. 770. c. 872–3.]

Industrial Training Centres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the latest total number of industrial training centres in Scotland, England and Wales, respectively, showing the number of places available to each case.

On 14th October, 1968, the number of centres and places was as follows:

Government Training CentresTraining Places
Scotland91,322
England296,920
Wales2569

Weekly Earnings (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many employed persons in Scotland have wages of not more than Β£15 per week; and what percentage of the total number of employed persons in Scotland that number represents.

The information available is not quite in the form requested. The results of the Family Expenditure Survey for 1967 indicate that in Scotland 16 per cent. of men, full-time employees, aged 21 and over, and 88 percent. of women full-time employees, aged 18 and over, had normal gross weekly earnings of less than Β£15 a week. These figures, being based on a relatively small sample are subject to wide margins of error.

Figures produced by the Ministry of Social Security from a sample of records relating to those persons who had virtually a full years' employment, showed that in the Income Tax year 1966–67, 16 per cent. of men aged 20 and over and 83 per cent. of women aged 18 and over had earnings of under Β£750 per annum. These figures, which are also subject to sampling error, exclude persons with low earnings which do not bring them within the scope of the Income Tax P.A.Y.E. arrangements.

Agricultural Training (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity to what extent she plans to introduce separate legislation for agricultural training in Scotland to ensure that the different agricultural problems and geographical factors can be specially suited.

Redundancy Payment

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will seek urgently to amend the Redundancy Payments Act, 1965 which, since the Lloyd v. Brassey decision in the Court of Appeal, has enabled the worker to claim redundancy payment from his ex-employer, even though the purchaser of the enterprise continued to employ him in the same job, without loss of earnings, in view of the fact that this makes it difficult to sell farms, or transfer them to next of kin.

No. I am aware of the problems which have arisen about payment of redundancy compensation when farms change hands but the Lloyd v. Brassey case has gone to the Court of Appeal and it will be prudent to await the outcome.

Agriculture (Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether she is aware that only Β£7,000 has been spent up to March, 1968, on training grants out of a total expenditure of Β£556,000 of the Agricultural Training Board; and, in view of the continued opposition of the National Farmers' Union to this scheme, if she will wind it up and substitute a cheaper and more efficient scheme.

Most grant claims are made after the close of the training year, which ran until 31st August. For the year as a whole the Board expects grants to amount to about Β£200,000. On the second part of the Question, I have nothing to add to my reply on 16th October to the hon. Member for Banbury (Mr. Marten).β€”[Vol. 770, c. 129–30.]

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Kai-Tak Airport, Hong Kong

87.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what plans he has to make a grant for the construction of a runway extension at Kai-Tak Airport, Hong Kong; and whether finance will be provided by the Hong Kong Government.

The Hong Kong Government have asked for a loan to cover the whole cost of extending the runway at Kai-Tak Airport. This application is under consideration.

Falkland Islands

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will give details of the reply the British representative made to the speech of the Argentine Foreign Minister in the United Nations General Assembly on 16th October regarding sovereignty over the Falkland Islands.

Yes. On 16th October the Deputy Permanent United Kingdom Representative at the United Nations sent a letter to the Secretary-General formally reserving the British position. This letter has been distributed to all delegations as a General Assembly document; its text is as follows: "I have the honour to refer to the statement of His Excellency, the distinguished Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Argentine Republic, at the 1697th Plenary Meeting of the General Assembly, on 16th October. 1968, in which reference was made to the Falkland Islands.

As the distinguished Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Argentine Republic stated, the Argentine and United Kingdom Governments are at present engaged in talks on this subject. These talks are being held in accordance with Resolution 2065 (XX) of the General Assembly and the two Governments hope to report further on them in the course of the present twenty-third session of the General Assembly.

I am, however, obliged to state that the United Kingdom Government does not accept the statement of the distinguished Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Argentine in so far as it disputes the sovereignty of the United Kingdom Government over the Falkland Islands. The United Kingdom Government has no doubt as to its sovereignty over the territory of the Falkland Islands, and I wish formally to reserve the rights of the United Kingdom Government on this question.

I should be grateful if this letter could be circulated as a General Assembly document".

Soviet Embassy, London

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what action has been taken in respect of diplomatic social relations, including the issue of official invitations, with the Soviet Embassy in London following the invasion of Czechoslovakia by the Soviet Union.

My right hon. Friend made it clear to the House on 26th August that while the British Government were not seeking to place an embargo on cultural and economic contacts with the Soviet Union, certain contacts with political overtones, or which could be quoted as evidence that Britain was indifferent to the intervention in Czechoslovakia were totally inappropriate.β€”[Vol. 769, c. 1418.]

Rhodesia

asked the Prime Minister whether, in considering Mr. Smith's demand that Her Majesty's Government should drop the condition of appeal to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council, he will seek to institute instead an all-party Judicial Appeal Committee consisting of hon. and learned Gentlemen Members of this House, together with honourable and learned judges in another place.

As I said in the House on 22nd October, although the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council is, in our view, the best type of reinforcement required for the second principle, we were, and are, willing to consider alternatives.

National Finance

Government Offices (Waste Paper)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the value and weight of waste paper collected from all Government offices in the country.

Some 4,090 tons were disposed of in London in the first six months of this year under arrangements made by H.M. Stationery Office. The revenue derived from disposal has always been confidential for commercial reasons. It would be a costly and unrewarding exercise to collect figures for disposal throughout the whole country since arrangements for ordinary waste are often made locally by the individual establishments concerned.

Local Government

Local Authority Accounts (Public Inspection)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will take steps to require local authorities to publish full annual reports and accounts for all trading services to be made available within six months of the end of the financial year.

Most local authorities are already required to make all of their accounts available for public inspection before audit by the district auditor, and to make available an abstract of accounts for inspection; authorities not wholly subject to district audit are similarly required to make available for public inspection such of their accounts as are subject to district audit, and to make available an abstract of all their accounts.

Local authority accounts of all kinds should be produced as soon as practicable after the period to which they relate, but my right hon. Friend is not convinced of the desirability of statutorily placing a time limit on these processes or of requiring an annual report on trading activities.

Local Authority Repair And Maintenance Work

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, in his considerations as to whether further guidance to local authorities is required on repair and maintenance work if he will ensure that a decision that services should be secured in the widest market will also ensure that Scottish firms have an opportunity of tendering.

It is for local authorities themselves to decide how this work shall be done, having regard to the need for efficiency, economy and the avoidance of any form of discrimination, and my right hon. Friend is not at present satisfied that any further advice is required.

Treasury Briefs (Members Of Parliament)

asked the Attorney-General if he will state the number of Treasury legal briefs given to Members of Parliament who are in legal practice, or to firms with whom they have an association, over the past four years; and what was the estimated total value.

No separate records are kept of the number and value of the briefs sent to Members of Parliament and this information could not be provided without disproportionate cost.

Legal Aid

asked the Attorney-General if he will introduce regulations under the Legal Aid and Advice Act to implement the recommendations of the Lord Chancellor's Advisory Committee in their Report, Command Paper No. 373.

The recommendations of the Advisory Committee constituted under Section 13 of the Legal Aid and Advice Act, 1949, whose Report was only published on 1st October, are now under consideration.

Education And Science

University Teachers' Salaries (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to receive the report on university teachers' salaries.

I hope to receive the Board's first report before the end of the year.

Home Department

Shot Gun Certificates

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many shot gun certificates have been issued following the introduction of the new system which became operative on 1st May, 1968.

I regret that this information is not yet available. I have written to the hon. Member.

Holroyd Committee

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the Holroyd Committee was set up; what were the terms of reference; and when it is expected to report.

The Committee was appointed on 7th February, 1967 with the following terms of reference:

"To inquire into, and make recommendations onβ€”
  • (a) the principles which should govern the organisation of the fire service in Great Britain;
  • (b) the relationship between the central Government and local fire authorities; the functions of the fire service; measures for maintaining its efficiency; the arrangements for recruiting and training its members and ensuring that the best use is made of the manpower available; and the machinery for determining pay and conditions of service;
  • (c) the need for further fire prevention measures;
  • (d) fire research and the application of its results."
  • The Committee is still taking evidence. It is expected to report next year.

    Offences Of Violence And Consumption Of Alcohol (Research Studies)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will institute an inquiry into the relationship between the consumption of alcohol and crimes of violence.

    A number of research studies already carried out have suggested that the consumption of alcohol is a contributory factor in the commission of some violent offences. Consideration is now being given to proposals made to the Home Office by a university for support of a further study of offences of violence.

    Social Security

    Everybody's Guide To Social Security (New Edition)

    asked the Minister of Social Security if she will arrange to publish an up-to-date edition of Everybody's Guide to Social Security.

    Preparations are in hand for a new edition of Everybody's Guide to Social Security, taking into account recent and current legislation, to be published as soon as possible.

    Public Building And Works

    Gpo Building, Edinburgh (Foreign Flags)

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works why the decision affecting the flying of the Russian and other countries' flags on top of the General Post Office building in Edinburgh during the festival was made in London, instead of at the Scottish headquarters of the department.

    The hon. Member has been misinformed. The decision was taken in Edinburgh by my Scottish Headquarters.