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Volume 778: debated on Monday 24 February 1969

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 24th February, 1969

Employment And Productivity

Industrial Disputes

1.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity why days lost due to industrial disputes have increased from 2·925 million in 1965 to 4·692 million in 1968; and what steps she is taking to reverse these trends and the evil consequences to exports.

71.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what steps she is taking to reduce the 4,600,000 working days lost through strikes in Great Britain in 1968, which was the highest since 1962, to the level of the 25,000 working days lost in West Germany, in the same year.

Industrial disputes arise essentially from defects in collective bargaining procedures, agreements and institutions. Their reform is a key feature of the Government's proposals in the recent White Paper "In Place of Strife".

66.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity in which years since 1955 has the number of working days lost due to industrial disputes exceeded 4 million; to what extent the increased loss is due to the growth of unofficial strikes; and what steps she intends to take in the future to reverse this trend.

Since 1955 the number of working days lost exceeded 4 million in each of the years 1957, 1959, 1962 and 1968. The figures for each of these years included substantial losses caused by official strikes involving large numbers of employees. The general increase since 1960 in the number of stoppages in industries other than coalmining has been almost entirely due to unofficial strikes, which have accounted for a consistently high percentage of stoppages and, except in 1962 and 1966, for the great majority of days lost. The Government's proposals for the reform and improvement of industrial relations are set out in the White Paper "In Place of Strife".

Productivity Agreements

5.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will redefine the criteria for productivity bargains in conformity with the Government's prices and incomes policy.

The present policy, including the productivity elements, is intended to cover the period up to the end of this year. The policy after then is currently under consideration. The National Board for Prices and Incomes is at present carrying out a second inquiry into the subject of productivity bargaining.

Inter-Union Disputes

7.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what proposals she has for dealing with strikes arising out of inter-union disputes.

The proposals in the White Paper for the reform of collective bargaining procedures should assist the settlement of inter-union issues. Proposals for dealing with inter-union recognition disputes are contained in paragraphs 60 and 61 of the White Paper.

Vickers Limited

8.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will set up a court of inquiry to look into the causes of, and the solutions to, the six months old strike at Vickers Limited, Barrow-in-Furness.

I have appointed a court of inquiry under the chairmanship of Sir Jack Scamp. The court will begin its hearings tomorrow in Barrow.

Trades Union Congress (Discussions)

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will make a statement on the results of her consultation with the Trades Union Congress on industrial relations.

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what has been the result of her discussions with the Trades Union Congress on the White Paper, In Place of Strife; and if she will make a statement.

I had full discussions with the Trades Union Congress before the publication of the White Paper and I have invited them to have an early meeting with me about the implementation of my proposals.

Roslin Colliery, Midlothian (Closure)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many miners are now redundant as a consequence of the closure of Roslin Colliery, Midlothian; and what are their respective ages.

Eighty-seven workers have been made redundant as a result of the closure of Roslin Colliery. I am circulating in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table of the ages of the men concerned.

AGES OF MEN REDUNDANT AT ROSLIN COLLIERY
AgeNumber
311
471
521
564
574
588
5913
6012
6112
6210
6315
646
87

Ports (Cube-Cutting)

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the result of her investigation into the violation of port loading regulations and the possible danger to dock workers arising from overloading, both of which result from the practice known as cube-cutting.

I have still no reason to think that cube-cutting causes danger to dockers. I have examined the position at five major ports where, in the last two years, Factory Inspectors have investigated 16 incidents involving overloading of lifting machinery. Only one was due to understating the load, which was a consignment from abroad.

Bank Employees (Salaries)

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity to what extent the increase in the salaries of bank employees compares with the average increase in earnings which has taken place since the Government introduced its productivity, prices and incomes policy.

Between April, 1965 and November, 1968 (the latest available date) average earnings, as measured by the monthly index, rose by nearly 26 per cent. i cannot give a directly corresponding figure for average earnings of bank employees of all grades. The N.B.P.I. report should add to the available information which is at present limited to rates for recruitment grades. The increases in these rates have been in the range of 12 to 37 per cent.

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what instruction was given to the National Board for Prices and Incomes as to the regard which they should have to Government policy on equal pay when the reference of the Bank pay settlement was made to the Board.

None. The Board is required to pay regard to the principles of the productivity, prices and incomes policy but, as I have made clear on previous occasions, there is nothing to prevent progress towards equal pay within the criteria of the prices and incomes policy.

Manual Workers (Cost Of Living Agreements)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many employees are now covered by cost of living sliding scale agreements; what she estimates has been the average percentage increase in their rates of pay on account of the rise in prices since November, 1967; and in how many cases increases based on a cost of living sliding scale have exceeded 3½ per cent. in a 12-month period.

About 375,000 manual workers are now covered by cost-of-living sliding-scale arrangements under the provisions of national collective agreements. I regret that the other information is not available in the form requested because the cost-of-living provisions in the various agreements do not follow a standard form. The 375,000 manual workers now covered received cost-of-living increases amounting to £160,000 in weekly rates of wages during the period end-November, 1967 to end-January, 1969. These figures exclude the total amount of £210,000 paid to building and construction manual workers in March, 1968 since the cost-of-living provisions in their national agreements have now terminated.

Municipal Bus Undertakings (Model Agreements)

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many municipal bus undertakings signed pay agreements with their employees based on the model agreement approved by her Department in August 1968; how many workers were covered by such agreements; and what was the increase in pay that they received.

Thirty-five undertakings signed agreements based on the model worked out by the employers' Federation. In their original form most of these agreements required clearance by the industry's National Joint Industrial Council. This was not forthcoming. Some were amended and resubmitted to my Department. As a result 19 agreements covering some 7,000 workers were implemented. They provided for an increase of 10s. per week in the basic rate, with effect from December, 1967, and a bonus of 10s. per week for one-man operation with effect from June 1968 to be consolidated into the basic rate from January 1969.

Road Haulage Industry

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity by how much average earnings in the road haulage industry in the East Midlands Region have risen during the past 12 months; and what she estimates has been the increase in productivity achieved by the workers concerned during this period.

Between October 1967 and October 1968 average weekly earnings of adult men in the road haulage industry in the East Midlands Region rose by 26s. 9d. which represents 6·l per cent. Average hourly earnings rose by 4·2d. or 4·5 per cent.Corresponding information concerning the increase in productivity is not available.

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what steps she plans to take to carry out the recommendation of the National Board for Prices and Incomes in their report on productivity agreements in the road haulage industry that as her Department develops its advisory activity on productivity, attention should be paid to the road haulage industry; and what priority she intends to give to this recommendation.

My officers are giving urgent attention to this recommendation. Approaches have been made to both sides of the road haulage industry and the services of my manpower advisers are available to advise local firms.

Prices And Incomes Policy

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity when the terms and conditions of the current prices and incomes policy as promulgated by her Department expire; and to what extent she has made plans for policies after that date.

Current prices and incomes policy is intended to last until the end of 1969. As regards the Government's consideration of the policy after then, I have nothing to add to the Answers I gave to Questions by the hon. Members for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne), Oswestry (Mr. Biffen) and Heywood and Royton (Mr. Barnett) on 20th January—[Vol. 776, cols. 8–10.]

Manufacturing Industries (Set Refunds)

58 and 59.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity (1) what is the average length of time taken to settle claims for refunds of Selective Employment Tax to manufacturing businesses upon the completion of the quarterly period from which they arise;(2) how many claims for the refund of Selective Employment Tax due to manufacturing businesses are now outstanding in excess of the average period taken to settle such claims.

69.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what conclusion she has now reached on the method of reducing delays now being experienced in the refunding of Selective Employment Tax.

The work of processing claims was transferred to another computer installation earlier this month. As a result the average interval between the submission of a claim and its payment has been reduced to 10 days. Only those claims which were incorrectly completed and therefore needed reference back to employers are outstanding in excess of this period.

Equal Pay

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity in which trades and professions equal pay for men and women is paid for equal responsibility.

Scotland

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many persons were unemployed in Scotland at the latest date for which figures are available; and how many unfilled vacancies there were on the same date.

In February, 1969, 85,700 persons were registered as unemployed and 17,800 notified vacancies remained unfilled in Scotland. These figures are provisional.

Glasgow Fire Accident (Inquiry)

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether she has considered the findings of the inquiry into the recent Glasgow fire disaster, details of which are in her possession; and whether she will consider introducing regulations under the Factories Acts in the light of this report.

In consultation with her right hon. Friends concerned, my right hon. Friend is considering the recommendations of the jury in the fatal accident inquiry to which the hon. Member refers, include those which call for legislation. The Government's conclusions on these matters will be included in the statement which my right hon. Friend will be making to the House as indicated in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Shoreditch and Finsbury (Mr. R. W. Brown) on 20th February, 1969.

Port Workers (Strikes)

68.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what have been the results of her discussions on the problems posed by unofficial strikes in the docks; and if she will make a statement.

As indicated in Reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Horn-church (Mr. Alan Lee Williams) on 12 th February, the object of the discussions with officials of my Department on 6th February was to ensure that all the implications of the London Port Employers proposed disciplinary action against unofficial strikers were fully considered before the action was taken.Reduction of unofficial strikes in the docks is one of the objectives of the continuing programme of reform based on the Devlin Report. The number of days lost through strikes (nearly all of them unofficial) has in fact shown a marked reduction since decasualisation, once the initial troubles were settled.—[Vol. 777. c. 337.]

South Yorkshire Road Haulage Association (Agreement)

72.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether the agreement reached between the South Yorkshire Road Haulage Association, the Transport and General Workers' Union and the United Road Transport Union for a £2 a week basic-wage rise, with no provision for productivity, to operate from 3rd March, with a guarantee of £16 weekly minimum, conforms with the prices and incomes policy: and if she will make a statement.

No agreement has been notified to my Department, but inquiries are being made.

General Electric & Associated Electrical Industries

73.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what discussions she has had recently with the management of the General Electric Company and Associated Electrical Industries on the subject of consultation with the employees' representatives relating to redundancies, reorganisation, and women's rates of pay.

My officers are in close touch with the management of G.E.C./A.E.I, on questions of consultation with employee representatives.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what further discussions her officials had with the new management of the combined General Electric Company and Associated Electrical Industries about alternative employment for the employees who will become redundant as a result of the closing of the switchgear factory at Willesden; and what steps are now being taken to help the employees concerned to find other work in the area.

My local officers have remained in close touch with the management of the switchgear factory at Willesden since the announcement of the proposed closure. Tentative preparations are being made for helping the employees to find other jobs but few positive steps can be taken until the consultations between the unions and management have been completed.

Hartlepool

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many men unemployed and registered by her Department in Hartlepool are between 40 to 45 years of age, 45 to 55 years of age and 55 to 65 years of age, respectively; and how many of the total have been unemployed for more than six months.

At 13th January, 1969, of a total of 2,326 males who were registered as wholly unemployed in the area covered by the Hartlepool and Hartlepool Headland Employment Exchanges, 257 were aged 40 and under 45, 399 were aged 45 and under 55 and 409 were aged 55 and under 65. Of the total of 1,065 aged between 40 and 64, 509 had been registered for more than 26 weeks.

Factories (Safety)

75.

asked the Secretary of c State for Employment and Productivity whether she will take powers to make it n obligatory to have joint representation on all safety committees.

This subject is under urgent consideration by a sub-committee e of my Industrial Safety Advisory Council. The Factory Inspectorate are now carrying out a survey of the arrangements for joint consultation on safety in factories employing more than 50 people to of assess what progress has been made since a similar inquiry in 1967. A delegation from the Sub-Committee is to visit Sweden in April to look at the statutory arrangements for joint consultation on safety in that country. Any decision on ' legislation must await consideration by the Sub-Committee of the results of the second survey and the outcome of the g visit to Sweden.

Prices And Incomes Board (Report)

76.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what action she has taken; on paragraph 47 of the Third General Report of the National Board for Prices and Incomes which proposed that employees should share in the capital growth of industry by receiving an entitlement to capital assets; and what further action she intends to take thereon.

The Board suggested that this was a matter which would repay study. . The subject is a complex and difficult one. We have been studying it and shall be giving further consideration to it in consultation with our colleagues.

Safety, Health And Welfare

77.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of non-Governmental bodies that have been consulted by her Department about proposed new safety, health and welfare legislation and indicate if this includes research organisations.

On the first part of the Question, the list contains about 700 names and I see no useful purpose in publishing it in this way. I will, however, send the information to the hon. Member. On the second part, the only non-Governmental research organisation consulted was the National Research Development Corporation.

United Kingdom-Australia Container Service

78.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she is aware that the United Kingdom-Australia Container Service which was scheduled to start next month will now quit British ports and use Rotterdam instead, because of the dispute arising from the refusal of the Port of London dockers to allow their ships to be handled; and is she will intervene to resolve the dispute so as to enable the service to use the Port of London as planned.

I am aware that it has been decided to operate this service from Rotterdam for the time being. I understand that implementation of a pay and productivity agreement to operate the terminal at Tilbury is linked, in the view of the union concerned, with current negotiations on the second stage of the Devlin modernisation programme covering the port as a whole. My Department is in touch with both sides with a view to assisting progress in these negotiations.

Steel Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what steps she plans to take to prevent the recurrence of industrial action by members of the Clerical and Administrative Workers' Union in the steel industry, which led last year to the establishment of a court of inquiry.

Following publication of the Report of the Court of Inquiry in August last year, my Department, the British Steel Corporation and the unions concerned took part in discussions which unfortunately did not lead to an agreed solution of the problem of trade union recognition for white collar employees in the nationalised steel industry. In December, my right hon. Friend sought the help of the T.U.C. which made recommendations to the unions involved and the British Steel Corporation, which has statutory responsibility for deciding questions of trade union recognition in the industry.

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what estimate she has made of the loss of production of steel products and motor cars which occurred as a result of the industrial action of the Clerical and Administrative Workers' Union in May to July, 1968 in campaigning for recognition from the British Steel Corporation.

Official estimates are not available of the loss of production involved. It is estimated that a loss of 44,000 working days were incurred by those on strike and by those laid off as a result.

75.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether she will now implement the recommendations of the recent court of inquiry under Lord Pearson into the dispute between the Clerical and Administrative Workers' Union members and the Association of Scientific, Technical and Managerial Staffs, on the one hand, and the British Steel Corporation, on the other.

Following publication in August 1968, of the Report of the Court of Inquiry under Lord Pearson, the British Steel Corporation had discussions with all the trade unions concerned to explore the possibilities of finding a solution acceptable to all parties on the lines recommended in the Report. Subsequently my Department also had discussions with all the organisations concerned. These discussions did not result in agreement on a solution. My right hon. Friend has no power to impose the recommendations of Courts of Inquiry.

76.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if, in view of the recommendations of the Pearson inquiry in the dispute between the Clerical and Allied Workers Union and the Association of Scientific, Technical and Managerial Staffs, on the one hand, and the British Steel Corporation, on the other, and the recommendations of the Trades Union Congress in the same dispute, if she will now reconsider the proposals in the recent White Paper for the setting up of a commission on industrial relations.

No. We still consider that the proposals in the White Paper are appropriate.

Motor Industry (Wages)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the average weekly wage of motor vehicle industry employees in Scotland, England and the relevant regions of England, respectively, at the latest convenient date.

Following is the information, derived from the Department's half-yearly inquiries into the earnings and hours of manual workers:

AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS OF ADULT MALE MANUAL WORKERS IN OCTOBER, 1968*
MOTOR VEHICLE INDUSTRY†
£s.d.
Scotland2354
Englandt‡2785
Regions of England
South East2763
East Anglia2108
Southwestern2708
West Midlands29137
East Midlands2500
Yorkshire and Humberside22146
North Western2592
Northern26110
* Details for Scotland and for the regions of England are available only for adult male manual workers. October, 1968 is the latest date for which information is available.
† Minimum list heading 381 of the Standard Industrial Classification, 1958.
‡ Estimated.

Statutory Appointments

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many statutory appointments are within her patronage; and how many of the recipients of this patronage are of Scottish domicile.

I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer about salaried statutory appointments which I gave my hon. Friend the Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton) on 9th December, 1968. In addition, my right hon. Friend makes a large number of unpaid statutory appointments; information about these is not readily available. I regret that it would not be practicable to say how many of those holders of appointments are of Scottish domicile.—[Vol. 774/5, c. 25.]

Regional Price Indices (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity when the interdepartmental committee considering the technical problems involved in the calculation of regional price indices is now expected to report its findings.

I regret that I am unable, at present, to say when the Committee is likely to report its findings.

Agricultural Training Board

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity by what date she expects to receive the representations of the national farmers' unions on her proposals for the financing of the Agricultural Training Board; and when she will lay regulations before Parliament for these new financial arrangements.

I have asked the farmers' and workers' unions to let me have their comments on the proposals as soon as they can. The implementation of the proposals will depend on the outcome of these further consultations.

Retail Prices Index

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity by what percentage the items contained in the cost of living index have risen in price since October, 1964; and what is the comparable percentage for the foodstuffs element contained in the index.

The Index of Retail Prices all-items figure rose by 19·6 per cent. between 13th October, 1964 and 14th January, 1969; the figure for the food group rose by 16·8 per cent.

Prices And Incomes Board (Reports)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will introduce legislation to enable citizens who feel themselves to have been defamed by reports of the National Board for Prices and Incomes to seek redress at law; and if she will issue a direction to the Board that pending the introduction of such legislation it should refrain from criticism of individuals unless such individuals have been confronted with the criticism prior to publication.

I do not think such legislation would be desirable. The Board must be able to report fully and freely on the matters referred to it. No. direction is necessary on the second point which the Board has assured me it fully accepts.

Social Services

Children's Spectacles (Toughened Lenses)

80.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will authorise opticians to dispense spectacles with toughened glass under the National Health Service for children under the age of 14 years.

Such lenses may already be supplied on request, in most cases on payment of a specified charge.

Flight Lieutenant Cockayne (War Pension Claim)

82.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the application for a war pension made by Flight Lieutenant Cockayne, retired, of Polvron, Cornwall, details of which have been sent to him.

We are not yet in a position to make a decision on Flight Lieutenant Cockayne's claim, which was submitted on 29th August, 1968. The medical questions are complex and there is a great deal of documentary evidence, much of it relating to the period since the officer left the R.A.F. in 1954, all of which must be carefully evaluated by the doctors and consultants concerned with the case.

Child-Care Examinations (Mexborough)

83.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is aware that owing to a shortage of doctors in the Dearne Valley constituency a reduction is taking place in the number of child-care examinations in the Mexborough district; and what action he is taking to bring the number of doctors up to the required figure so that regular child-care examinations can take place.

I am aware that the number of county council whole-time medical staff is below strength in the area, but I understand that this has not affected the child health service for which the council also employs general practitioners and married women doctors on a sessional basis.

Seebohm Committee's Report

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now make a statement on the machinery being set up in his Department to deal with the implementation of the Seebohm Committee Report.

I am responsible for coordinating the examination by the Government of the issues involved in implementing the Seebohm Report. A small separate staff assists me in my co-ordinating rôle in relation to the social services generally.

Family Planning Advice (Brent)

85.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services at how many clinics in the London Borough of Brent advice on family planning is available; what is the total number of sessions each week and the cost of prescriptions and supplies provided free to medical cases since the Ministry of Health Circular No. 15/67; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that eight weekly sessions are provided at seven clinic buildings. It is not possible to isolate the cost of prescriptions and supplies for medical cases but the council's estimate of net expenditure on family planning in 1969–70 is £3,580.

Abortions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will institute a study into the effect upon the illegal abortion rate of the provisions of the Abortion Act, 1967.

Precise information about the number of illegal abortions is not available. But comparisons which I propose to make of trends in admissions for abortion (and particularly septic abortions) to National Health Service hospitals before and after the Act came into force may throw light on the effect of the Act on illegal abortions.

Prescription Charges

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the latest available figures since the reintroduction of prescription charges of prescriptions issued on payment and exemption, respectively.

Fifty-eight million and 57 million respectively of National Health Service prescriptions dispensed by chemists in England and Wales in the period from the reintroduction of charges on 10th June, 1968, to 30th November, 1968. Charges for 2 million items were refunded.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many prescriptions have been made since the re-introduction of prescription charges to the latest available date; and how this compares with the prescriptions issued for a similar period prior to the reintroduction of prescription charges.

Precisely comparable figures are not available. One hundred and fifteen million National Health Service prescriptions were dispensed by chemists in England and Wales in the period from the reintroduction of charges on 10th June, 1968, to 30th November, 1968, and 133 million between 1st June. 1967, and 30th November, 1967.

Health Centres

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many health centres were provided in the period 1962 to 1965; how many have been provided since 1965; and how many are at present under construction.

Seven health centres were opened in England and Wales between 1962 and 1965. Since then 57 have been built and a further 68 are at present under construction.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what amounts were spent by his Department on the provision of health centres in each year from 1962–63 to 1967–68; and what is the estimate for expenditure during the current year.

Capital expenditure approved by my Department in this period for the provision of health centres by local health authorities in England and Wales was as follows:—

1962–63134,405
1963–64177,070
1964–6536,448
1965–66342,142
1966–671,057,004
1967–682,099,678
The estimate for the current year is £3·7 million.

Hospitals

Staff Pay And Conditions Of Service

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he plans to replace the corresponding points system of assimilation, at present operating through the hospital service, by the method of assimilation proposed for medical assistants in paragraph 126 of the Ninth Report of the Review Body on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration.

This is a matter for the individual Whitley Councils or appropriate negotiating bodies concerned with the pay and conditions of service of hospital staff.

Geriatric Beds

86.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the additional geriatric beds to be provided in the later stages of the redevelopment of St. Peter's Hospital, Chertsey, will become available.

It is not possible at present to forecast the timing of the later stages of this redevelopment.

87.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he has made of the waiting list for geriatric hospital beds in the North West Surrey area, on the basis of the present proposals of the South West Metropolitan Regional Hospital Board, at the end of each of the next five years.

It is not possible to make forecasts of waiting lists, which depend on a variety of factors.

Overseas Doctors

88.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will order an immediate investigation into the fitness of some doctors from abroad to be left on their own to see and treat patients.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will state the percentage of doctors from abroad who occupy posts in hospitals under the National Health Service; if he is satisfied with the standard they maintain; and if he will make a statement.

Thirty-three per cent. of hospital doctors were born overseas. All these doctors have been registered by the General Medical Council, and have either qualified at medical schools approved by the council or have been approved by the council as suitable to fill specific posts suited to their skills. Most of them are in training posts and work under consultant supervision. As I have already said, the work done by the great majority of these doctors is of high quality.

New General Hospital, Newbury (Site)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when negotiations for the purchase of a site for the proposed new general hospital at Newbury will be concluded, and the site acquired.

The regional hospital board is discussing a site for a new hospital with the planning authority. The form of the development has yet to be determined and no starting date has been fixed.

Welsh Hospital Board

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total administrative staff of the Welsh Hospital Board and its managements and committees at the date of their inception; and what are the equivalent figures today.

Eight hundred and eighty at 31st December, 1948; 2,285 at 30th September, 1968.

Railways

Delayed Trains

89.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will issue a general direction to British Railways to ensure that guards on trains delayed for long periods outside major stations inform passengers of the reasons for the delay and either ask them to remain in the train or ensure that if they desire to walk to their destination, they do so in an organised and safe manner.

No. This is a matter of management for the Railways Board. I understand, however, that guards are instructed to inform passengers as soon as possible of the reason for any undue delay. It is against Railway byelaws for any person to alight from a train between stations except in emergency or at the express request of the guard who would take all steps to ensure the safety of the passengers.

Social Grants

asked the Minister of Transport what is the total sum of the social grants he has to date decided to allocate in England, Scotland and Wales, respectively, under Section 39 of the Transport Act, 1968.

The estimated totals for 1969 of grants under Section 39(1) are:

England£47·217 million
Scotland£9·787 million
Wales£2·812 million
Grants for Anglo-Scottish and Anglo-Welsh services have been apportioned on a mileage basis.As explained in my Answer on 28th January to my hon. Friend the Member for Central Ayrshire (Mr. Manuel), these figures are still subject to certain adjustments. They do not take account of transitional grants under Section 39(4).—[Vol. 776, c.

295–302.]

Transport

Passenger Transport Authority, Coventry

asked the Minister of Transport what representations he has received from the Coventry City Council for the setting up of a Passenger Transport Authority for the Coventry sub-regional area; and what replies he has sent.

London Transport (Capital Debt)

asked the Minister of Transport what is the present capital debt of London Transport; and what it was in each of the last five years.

The present capital debt of the Board to the Minister is £258·8 million; and was as follows at the end of each of the last five years:

£million
1964178·3
1965196·3
1966215·8
1967231·3
1968255·3

Statutory Appointments

asked the Minister of Transport how many statutory appointments are within his patronage; and how many of the recipients of this patronage are of Scottish domicile.

The statutes provide for me to make up to 126 salaried appointments. Ninety-eight such appointments are held at present, seven of them by people who live in Scotland.The statutes do not in every case limit the number of holders of non-salaried appointments to the other statutory bodies for which I am responsible; 396 such appointments are current, and 51 of them are held by people who live in Scotland

Roads

A5, Tamworth (Traffic Survey)

asked the Minister of Transport when the last traffic survey was carried out on that part of the A5 trunk road which is in the borough of Tamworth.

This length of A5 was included in the survey made in January and February, 1967, by the consultants who are studying traffic conditions in Tamworth. In addition a count was taken on this road as part of a national census in August, 1965.

A45 Coventry-Stonebridge (Lighting)

asked the Minister of Transport when work is expected to start and be completed for lighting the A45 trunk road between Coventry and Stonebridge.

The proposal for lighting between Coventry and Stonebridge is part of a larger scheme which has been programmed and is in its preparatory design stages. There are special problems to be resolved, particularly in relation to the proximity of Birmingham Airport. On present information it is expected that work will start in the latter part of 1970 and take about seven months to complete. If practicable, part of the scheme will be progressed in advance of the rest.

Heavy Goods Vehicles (Licensing Of Drivers)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is now able to announce a starting date for the scheme for licensing and testing drivers of heavy goods vehicles.

Yes. I propose to make an Order to bring the scheme into force with effect from 2nd February, 1970.But I intend to operate the scheme on a voluntary basis with effect from 4th August, 1969. This should enable the scheme to get off to a smooth start and will permit those drivers who need to hold the new licence on or shortly after 2nd February to make application and. if need be, take the test, in good time

Civil Service

Building Workers (Pay)

90.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service on what grounds he approved the increase of 3· per cent. paid to building workers employed by the Ministry of Public Building and Works from July 1968.

On the grounds that the pay of industrial civil servants had fallen out of line with that given for comparable work in outside industry and needed in the national interest to be improved.

Paymaster General

Statutory Appointments

asked the Paymaster-General how many statutory appointments are within her patronage; and how many of the recipients of this patronage are of Scottish domicile.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Nigeria (Supply Of Arms)

91.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will stop the two separate shipments of arms and ammunition for Nigeria, each of approximately £300,000, which have recently been arranged, in order to reduce the scale of fighting there.

Without accepting my hon. Friend's description of the supplies in question, I am satisfied that a diminution in supplies from this country would not of itself lead to any reduction in the scale of the fighting.

National Finance

Taxation

92.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the increase in the Index of Retail Prices since October 1964 has been due to increases in taxation.

Between October 1964 and January 1969 the Index of Retail Prices rose by 19·6 per cent., of which I estimate that increases in indirect taxation, including the Selective Employment Tax, accounted for about 6 per cent.

Dyeing And Cleaning Industry (Report)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when it is expected that the Reddaway Committee investigating the Selective Employment Tax will examine the effect of the tax on the dyeing and cleaning industry.

The field of the inquiry is very wide and it is for Professor Reddaway to determine how extensively he can cover it and in what sequence.

Foreign Loans

93 and 94.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the total interest due to be paid on all foreign loans to the United Kingdom, including drawings from the International Monetary Fund, in each of the years 1969 to 1975, inclusive.(2) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the capital outstanding on each foreign loan to the United Kingdom including drawings from the International Monetary Fund on 31 st December 1968 and at the latest available date, and the repayments of capital and payments of interest due to be made in each month of 1969.

Interest due up to 1975 on all external loans taken by H.M. Government, including I.M.F. drawings, is as follows:

£ million
1969197019711972197319741975
87767047434139
The amounts of capital outstanding are as follows:—

£ million
Amount outstanding at
31st December,24th February,
Lender19681969
Portugal2323
United States Line of Credit1,2621,262
United States Lend-Lease197197
Canadian Credit369369
United States Economic Co-operation Administration108108
United States Mutual Security Agency1818
Germany—European Payments Union2525
International Monetary Fund—May, 1965 drawing500417
Parallel Swiss Loan114
International Monetary Fund—March, 1966 drawing5151
United States Export Import, Line of Credit (Military Aircraft Loans)229230
Bank for International Settlements4326
Deutsche Bundesbank2121
International Monetary Fund—June. 1968 drawing583583
TOTAL3,4403,334

Repayments of capital and payments of interest due monthly in 1969 are as follows:

£ million

capital

Interest

January260·1
February990·5
March607·7
April90·1
May960·2
June1614·3
July
August971·0
September7·3
October1·2
November83
December5954·2
54586·6

These tables exclude short-term transactions between Central Banks, which it is not customary to disclose.

British Eagle (Pension Moneys)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects the Inland Revenue to reach a decision on the refund of pension moneys to former employees of British Eagle airlines; and if he will make a statement.

The Inland Revenue will be arranging to discuss this problem shortly with the trustees of the pension fund, and I hope this will enable them to reach a decision.

Gas

Service Charges (South Eastern Gas Board)

95.

asked the Minister of Power whether he will refer to the National Board for Prices and Incomes increases of the order of 400 per cent. by service charges imposed on consumers of gas by the South Eastern Gas Board.

Ministry Of Power

Steel Imports And Exports

asked the Minister of Power what tonnages of steel have been imported and exported by the British steel industry each quarter for the years 1962 to 1968.

The following is the information:

Exports*Imports
Of material for hire-rollingOther imports by the British steel industry
Thousand tonsThousand tons
1962 Quarter1697·222·043·2
2770·246·676·0
3686·450·6106·8
4725·0103·2§170·4
1963 Quarter1773·772·0112·0
2795·278·8125·9
3765·643·784·0
4795·877·4156·3
1964 Quarter1830·384·8247·1
2911·020·5198·3
3832·916·385·3
4823·151·4
1965 Quarter1755·715·5
2917·02·6
3863·316·6
4938·615·7
1966 Quarter1713·519·7
2793·321·2
3792·317·9
4974·931·924·3
1967 Quarter1900·126·938·7
21,019·524·139·8
3922·319·829·0
4809·140·763·4
1968 Quarter1943·238·188·7
21,059·245·691·9
3980·816·796·3
41,037·648·6§117·4
Note:
* Items of steel extracted from the Overseas Trade Accounts.
† Imports of steel reported by British steel producers.
† This material is separately distinguished since after processing it is exported (it is included also under exports for the same or a later quarter).
§ Includes some steel imported at uncertain dates in the same year

Steel Prices

asked the Minister of Power if he will direct the British Steel Corporation to amend its proposed price adjustments of alloy steels and associated products, now before the National Board for Prices and Incomes, in view of the increase in the price of nickel.

The Corporation recently gave notice under the early warning arrangements of a proposal to increase its prices for nickel-bearing steels to reflect the increase in the price of nickel. The proposed increases will be examined by the N.B.P.I. as part of its current inquiry into steel prices.

asked the Minister of Power if he is aware that the submission of the proposed British Steel Corporation steel price increases to the National Board for Prices and Incomes is causing customers to increase their stocks of certain steel products; what effect this has had on the British Steel Corporation's delivery schedules; and if he will make a statement.

Stockbuilding has increased recently, but this was probably due to the expectation of an increase in consumption and to the fear that production might be interrupted by industrial action as well as to the price proposals. The Corporation tells me that delivery times have lengthened as a result of the current high level of demand but the volume of deliveries to the home market is very high.

British Steel Corporation (Directors' Salaries)

asked the Minister of Power if he will state the relative salary ranges of the chairman, deputy chairman and full-time directors of the British Steel Corporation; and if he will make a statement.

The information for which my hon. Friend asks is given in the latest annual White Paper on Public Boards published in December, 1968 (Cmnd. 3857).

Tube Works, Corby (Productivity Agreement)

asked the Minister of Power what has been the estimated percentage increase in rates, earnings and productivity arising from the productivity deal recently concluded between the management of the British Steel Corporation tube works at Corby and the Amalgamated Union of Engineering and Foundry Workers.

Electricity And Gas Prices (South Eastern Region)

asked the Minister of Power (1) what is the average price per unit of electricity supplied to industrial consumers in the south eastern region of the country.(2) what is the average price per therm of gas sold to industrial consumers m the south eastern region of the country.

The figures for sales of gas and electricity to industrial consumers in the year ended 31st March, 1968, are as follows:

Gas—Average revenue per therm sold by the South Eastern Gas Board19.76d.
Electricity—Average revenue per kWh sold by the South Eastern Electricity Board1.568d.

Heavy Fuel Oil And Gas Diesel Oil (Prices)

asked the Minister of Power (1) what is the average price of gas diesel oil sold to industrial users in the south eastern region of the country;(2) what is the average price per gallon of heavy fuel oil sold to industrial users in the south-eastern region of the country.

The published prices of heavy fuel oil and gas diesel oil for minimum bulk loads of 500 gallons in the south eastern region vary according to price zone, and are either 14·92 or 15·42d. per gallon for heavy fuel oil and either 19·795 or 20295d. per gallon for gas diesel oil, including for both products tax of 2·42d. per gallon and temporary surcharge of 0·5d. per gallon. These prices are subject to rebates negotiated individually between consumers and competing supply companies. On the matter of rebates I have nothing to add to the reply given to my hon. Friend on 17th February, 1969.—[Vol. 778, c. 44.]

Coal

Price (South Eastern Region)

asked the Minister of Power what is the average price per ton of coal sold to industrial users in the southeastern region of the country.

The price varies widely depending on the type and size of fuel needed, the method of delivery, the frequency with which delivery is requested, and, above all, the size of the order which tends to influence transport costs. To give an average price would not be meaningful.

Home Department

Central Criminal Court (Defence Costs)

96.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by what authority the Treasury solicitor has refused to meet the full costs of the defence following proceedings at the Central Criminal Court on 12th June, 1968, against three men for attempted theft of television sets which were not proceeded with by the Crown and in which the court ordered that the costs of the defence should be borne by the Crown.

The Treasury Solicitor was not concerned. The defendants' costs were ordered to be taxed and paid from local funds. The court, in taxing the costs, reduced the amounts claimed.

Police (Recruitment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what estimate he has made of the numbers of policemen and policewomen who would need to be recruited to bring the force up to strength this year in England and Wales; and how this compares with his estimate for each of the last five years.

To bring the police forces of England and Wales up to full establishment by the end of the 1969–70 financial year would require the recruitment of some 24,300 men and women—on the assumption that the number leaving during that year is the average of the past five years. Since recruitment on this scale is not realistic, it serves no useful purpose to make a similar calculation, retrospectively, in respect of the previous five years. On the same assumption about the number leaving, 7,865 will need to be recruited in 1969–70 in order to achieve a net increase of 2,000. I consider this to be a realistic figure and have asked Police Authorities to work to it.

Police Pay Settlement

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why payment of the pay increases to the police force, agreed several months ago and backdated to 1st September, 1968, has not yet been made.

Agreement in general terms was reached in the Police Council on 12th November. The Joint Secretaries of the Council then calculated and applied the award in detail to various different scales effective from two different dates. The resulting agreement in detail reached the Home Office on 12th December. Police regulations were then agreed on 27th January with the Joint Secretaries of the Police Council and the local authority and police associations, who must be consulted under statute.My right hon. Friend signed the regulations on 6th February; they were laid before Parliament on 17th February and came into operation on 19th February.The procedure has operated for a number of years with the full agreement of the Police Federation and has been regarded by them as necessary to protect their interests. But my right hon. Friend is examining ways of speeding up the procedure in future.

Constitutional Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the result of his discussions with the Chairman of the Constitutional Commission about holding their meetings and taking evidence in public.

This will be decided by the Commission as a whole, but I expect that there will be public hearings to take oral evidence as appropriate.

Crime And Prevention

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the sum spent by his Department in each of the last three years on investigations into aspects of crime and its prevention; and what trained staff he has available for such investigation.

If my hon. Friend is referring to the Police Research and Development Branch of the Home Office, its annual budget for 1966–67 and 1967–68 was, respectively, £49,000 and £153,000; and for 1968–69 I expect it to be £240,000. The establishment of the Branch at present consists of 29 scientists, 9 senior police officers, 3 specialist advisers and 4 technicians.

Approved Schools

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the increase in the number of places available in approved schools in England and Wales during each of the years from 1958 to 1968, inclusive.

The information is not available for the period before 1961. The number of places in approved schools in England and Wales at the end of each year for the period 1961–67, and the net increase or reduction during the same year, are as follows:

YearPlacesNet IncreaseNet Decrease
19618,805127
19629,048243
19639,380332
19649,46383
19659,603140
19669,744141
19679,533211
The figures for 1968 are not yet available. There is at present about 75 per cent. occupancy.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the average weekly cost of maintaining a child in an approved school in England and Wales.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many of the children presently in approved schools in England and Wales are permitted to attend normal local schools; and how many candidates from approved schools have been presented and passed the General Certification of Education O-level examination in each of the last three years.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, what percentage of children leaving approved schools in England and Wales in each of the last five years has been committed to Borstal or other penal establishment in the three years following release.

Information relating to the three year post-release period ending in 1968 is not yet available. For the periods ending in the preceding five years, the percentage of committals to penal establishments or recommittals to an approved school in England and Wales was as follows:—

Found gulity of an offence within 3 years of release and sent to
Year of releaseNumber releasedBorstalPrisonDetention centreApproved school
Percent.Percent.Percent.Percent.
19603,97411·10·92·27·2*
19614,0529·51·12·89·1*
19624,46113·73·35·39·2*
19634,57114·53·17·27·8*
19644,61618·73·76·93·9
* The figures for the years 1960 to 1963 include boys and girls who were recalled to approved schools without any further order being made.

Police And Prison Services (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the figure per head of the population spent in England and Wales on police and prison services in the last financial year.

Open Prisons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many places are currently available in open prisons in England and Wales.

Prisoner/Staff Ratio

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the present staff/prisoner ratio in the prisons of England and Wales.

Overseas Students (Visas)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what criteria govern the granting of entry visas to students from overseas.

A foreign national is required to produce evidence of enrolment at a bona-fide educational establishment for a course involving at least 15 hours daytime class attendance a week, and to show that he can support himself without working during his stay. For Commonwealth citizens the requirements are similar.

Police (Graduate Entry Scheme)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applicants there have been for the graduate entry scheme into the police service since its inception; how many have been interviewed and selected; and how many have finally been accepted into the service.

Of the 205 applications so far received, 41 are under consideration. Of the other 164 applicants, 81 reached the stage of extended interview and 23 were selected. Of these, 13 are now serving in police forces, and 7 are expected to join later this year.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has so far been the cost of publicising and promoting the scheme for graduate entry into the police service; and how much per head of those finally accepted was the cost of accommodating, interviewing and assessing candidates.

Apart from general publicity for police recruitment, the expenditure directly attributable to publicising and promoting the graduate scheme so far is approximately £30,000. The cost of the arrangements for extended interview was equivalent to £162 for each of those offered appointment.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proportion of those accepted for graduate entry into the police service was assessed as likely to attain command posts of the rank of superintendent and above.

All graduates offered appointment under this scheme are considered likely to rise at least to the rank of chief inspector. About one-fifth of those offered appointment in 1968 were considered likely to rise well beyond this level.

London School Of Economics (Police Duties)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many police man-hours were expended in duties concerned with guarding the premises of the London School of Economics between 25th January and 19th February; and how many of these hours were worked as overtime.

32,726 hours. None of this was overtime, but some officers not normally employed in the West End may have earned overtime rates while travelling.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many incidents involving criminal offences were reported by the police guarding the premises of the London School of Economics during the period 25th January to 19th February, 1969; and how many persons were detained.

Drugs (Cough Linctus)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he has allowed cough linctus containing morphine hydrochloride to be obtained without medical prescription.

Because our law reflects the provisions of the United Nations Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961, which does not require preparations of this kind to be available only on prescription.

Prisoners (Parole)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what he estimates to be the number of prisoners in England and Wales presently eligible for parole; how many have been recommended for consideration by local review committees; and how many have been released on parole since the inception of the scheme.

The number of prisoners eligible for parole changes from day to day. Local review committees consider all eligible cases. Up to 31st January, 1969, they had submitted reports in respect of 9,521 prisoners serving determinate sentences in England and Wales. This figure includes 1,016 prisoners whose cases were reviewed for the second time. It excludes 849 prisoners who had declined to be considered for parole. The number of favourable recommendations, including those who were being recommended for the second time, was 2,728. Up to the same date, the Parole Board had recommended 1,301 prisoners for release on licence and these recommendations have been accepted.

Children And Young Persons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many children and young persons were sent to approved schools or placed in the care of local authorities by the Criminal Courts, including the juvenile courts, during each of the years 1966, 1967 and 1968, respectively, showing separately those sent following upon their conviction for criminal offences and those sent as being in need of care and protection.

The figures for England and Wales in 1966 and 1967 are given in the following table. Figures for 1968 are not yet available.

Nature of proceedings in which the orders were madeApproved school ordersFn person orders naming the local authority as fit person
1966196719661967
Criminal proceedings in respect of a child or young person5,8095,3241,2801,356
Criminal proceedings in respect of an offence by some other person against a child or young person26482
Civil proceedings in respect of a child or young person brought before the juvenile court as in need of care, protection or control or under the Education Act 19445195072,1872,359

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many young persons between the ages of 14 and 17 years were proceeded against in the criminal courts in England and Wales, including the juvenile courts, in the years 1966, 1967 and 1968, respectively.

92,247 in 1966: 88,519 in 1967. Figures for 1968 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many children under the age of 14 years were under the supervision of probation officers in England and Wales on 31st December, 1968, or on the last appropriate date for which figures are available.

The latest information available is for 31st December, 1967, and is as follows:

BoysGirls
Probation Orders11,3331,538
Supervision Orders3,6983,460
Total15,0314,998

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many children under the age of 14 years were placed under the supervision of probation officers in England and Wales during the years 1967 and 1968, respectively.

In 1967 8,136 probation orders were made in criminal proceedings in respect of children under the age of 14; and 1,874 supervision orders were made in respect of children under the age of 14 found to be in need of care, protection or control. The figures for supervision orders do not show separately the number of cases in which a probation officer was named as supervisor. Figures for 1968 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many young persons of 15 and 16 years of age, respectively, were sentenced to Borstal training in the years 1966, 1967 and 1968 respectively.

The number of persons under the age of 17 sentenced to borstal training in England and Wales was 489 in 1966 and 572 in 1967. The figures do not distinguish those who were aged 15 and those who were aged 16 at the date of sentence. Figures for 1968 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many young persons of 15 and 16 years were undergoing sentences of Borstal training as at 31st December, 1968, or the last appropriate date for which figures are available.

This information is not immediately available. But on the assumption that the proportions of the different age groups in custody at any one time are similar to the proportions of those received into custody, the numbers on 31st December, 1968, would have been approximately 135 boys and 5 girls aged 15, and 520 boys and 15 girls aged 16.

Child-Care Officers

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many child-care officers are at present employed by local authorities in England and Wales.

3,038 full-time and 257 part-time on 31st March, 1968. Later figures will not be available until local authorities' returns for 31st March, 1969, are received, but on past experience I would expect an increase. In their return for 31st March, 1968, local authorities gave an establishment of 3,316 full-time and 132 part-time for that date, and forecast an establishment of 3,619 full-time and 121 part-time for 31st March, 1969.

Commonwealth And Foreign Students

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many Commonwealth and foreign students currently hold visas to pursue their education in this country; and if he will list the number applicable to each overseas country.

Scotland

Teachers (Registration)

97.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will state the latest number of teachers in service in Scotland who have not yet registered with the General Teaching Council; and how many have received dismissal notices.

Four hundred and eighty at 21st February of whom 224 have applied for registration. Education authorities have adopted motions for the dismissal of 286 of these teachers.

Education (Scotland) Act 1962 (Section 29(2))

98.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many appeals were made to him in each of the past five years under Section 29(2) of the Education (Scotland) Act, 1962; how many related to the course of secondary education selected for the child at the time of transfer from primary to secondary education; and how many of these appeals were allowed.

The figures are as follows:

APPEALS TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE, 1964 TO 1968, UNDER SECTION 29(2) OF THE EDUCATION (SCOTLAND) ACT 1962
YearTotal number of appealsNumber of appeals at the time of transferNumber upheld
1964958820
1965939125
196627526872
196711010627
1968676412

Forestry Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many houses are owned by the Forestry Commission in Scotland; and how many of these are occupied by Forestry Commission workers.

The Forestry Commission has 2,368 houses in Scotland, of which 1,656 are occupied by its employees.

Egg Producers (Transport Subsidy)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland to what extent the transport subsidy proposed by the Government for egg producers in certain areas is based on comparisons between the sea freight costs of conveying eggs 150 miles to Glasgow from Belfast and the costs of transporting them 290 miles from Wick or 180 miles from Elgin; and what those comparisons are.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Aberdeenshire, West (Mr. James Davidson) on 7th February. The details of the arrangements to be made are still under consideration.—[Vol. 777, c. 188.]

Local Government

Land Commission (Bristol)

99.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many of the 129 persons employed at the Land Commission office in Bristol in January, 1968 are still employed there.

100.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many staff vacancies exist at the Land Commission's offices in Bristol; what are the nature of these vacancies; and what steps he proposes to take to fill the vacancies.

Refuse Collection (Report)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what conclusions he has reached on the recommendations of the Working Party on Refuse Collection, which reported in December, 1966; and what action he proposes to take.

Action on the recommendations is largely for local authorities to consider and in May, 1967 my right hon. Friend commended the Working Party's report to them. In view of the current need for restraint on public expenditure there are limits on the extent to which authorities can introduce new methods, but a number of them are experimenting with pilot schemes or preparing plans which can be put into effect when the economic situation permits.

Building Costs (Direct Labour)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he proposes to take on the recommendation of the National Board for Prices and Incomes on pay and conditions in the construction industry other than building and civil engineering that there should be an inquiry into the relative advantages in cost to local authorities of placing contracts for new building with private contractors or undertaking the work with their own direct labour forces.

Chelmsley Wood Development

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will make special financial provision for Warwickshire County Council to help meet the cost of providing the necessary services in the large-scale Chelmsley Wood Development.

I appreciate the work being done by the county council to provide the necessary services at Chelmsley Wood. Estimates put forward by the county council about the effect of this provision on the rates have been considered recently, but I cannot accept that they show that the burden will be unduly heavy. I have however told the county council that I am willing to look at the matter again should the burden prove to be substantially heavier than expected.

Norley Drainage Scheme (Runcorn)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he has yet given his approval to the tender that has been submitted by the Runcorn Rural District Council for the provision of a main drainage scheme for the parish of Norley.

My right hon. Friend approved the scheme on 1st July, 1968, and provided the tender accepted by the Council is the lowest, which I understand is the case, his approval to its acceptance is not required.

Housing

Lambeth

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many dwellings have been started and completed in the borough of Lambeth by the borough and county councils in each of the years up to 31st December, 1968. from 31st December, 1960.

The figures so far as available are:

NEW HOUSEBUILDING IN LAMBETH L.B. AREA
Number of dwellings
By County Councils*By Borough CouncilsTotal
PeriodStartedCompletedStartedCompletedStartedCompleted
1961Not availablel,508‡Not available405Not available2,751‡
1962398
1963144
1964296
1965382443178192560635
196644380495398539778
19672054198312491,036668
19687803773131981,093575
* L.C.C. up to 31st March, 1965, G.L.C. from 1st April, 1965.
† Lambeth and Wandsworth M.B.'s up to 31st March, 1965.
‡ Excluding completions by L.C.C. in January-March, 1961.

Board Of Trade

Auction Rings (Inquiry)

101.

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he intends to publish in detail his inspector's inquiry into auction rings.

South African Holiday Advertisements (Trade Descriptions Act)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what action has now been taken regarding South African holiday advertisements, in the light of the Trade Descriptions Act.

I am informed that the local weights and measures authority which was dealing with a complaint about these advertisements has decided to take no action on the complaint because its inquiries indicated that the statement complained of was not made in the course of a trade or business. We are, however, making further inquiries.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Foot-And-Mouth Disease

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much money has been received from the farming community as its contribution to the fund organised by his Department and equally financed by the Government designed to offer additional compensation to early victims of the foot-and-mouth epidemic; what amount of money has been returned to donors as ineligible for

the farmers' contribution; and what have been the reasons for the refusal of such contributions.

I have received £88,000 from the National Farmers Union, which organised this appeal. Of this, £80,000 together with a matching £80,000 from the Government was distributed to the farmers concerned on 17th January. I understand that the union's appeal has realised another £10,000. A further £36,000 (including the Government's contribution) should, therefore, shortly be available for distribution, making just under £200,000 in all. In addition, the union recently informed the Ministry that it had received a cheque for about £150,000 apparently subscribed by the farmers on whose behalf the scheme was devised; and that the organisers had stipulated that it should be used only if the Government matched it with an equal amount. This would bring the total sum for distribution up to the £500,000 target. I understand that, in view of the questions that have been raised by my Department, the union has returned the cheque to the organisers. The President of the National Farmers Union has now discussed this with me and I have asked for further information.

Ministry Of Defence

Faslane And Coulport Depots

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much of the £3 million increased expenditure in the Coulport missile depot contract has been caused by devaluation.

asked the Secretary of State; for Defence what are the estimated completion dates for the missile depots at Faslane and Coulport.

The Clyde Submarine Base, which consists of the general submarine support area at Faslane and the armament depot at Coulport, is virtually complete and is operational.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much more accommodation has been provided at the Coulport missile depot than was originally required.

The additional accommodation being provided consists of facilities for torpedoes and engineering services, extra storage space, technical administrative offices and a canteen extension.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much of the £3 million increase in the missile depot at Coulport has been due to variations in wages and increased costs of Pay As You Earn; and what are the conditions of the contract that permit these increases.

Approximately £100,000. This reflects the increase in wages which took place between the framing of the original estimate and the letting of contracts.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many persons are now employed at the Faslane and Coulport missile depots; and what is the weekly wage bill.

Full-Bore Rifle Ranges (Closure)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what estimate he has formed of the effect of the closure of full-bore rifle ranges in the United Kingdom on full-bore shooting by Army Cadet Force units; and if he will make a statement.

I regret that it is impossible to make an accurate estimate of the effect of these closures because the full-bore shooting is not an essential feature of the training of the Army Cadet Force but is limited to varying numbers of cadets over 15 who have passed Part I of Certificate A.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the full-bore rifle ranges administered by his Department in the United Kingdom which have been closed during the past four years.

The list is as follows:

Ranges declared surplus to requirements
HorsfordMachriharish
Yeldon*Hampton Lovett
*RoystonMonmouth
SizewellPorthcawl
LandguardMountain Ash
*Castle Hill,Machynis
TonbridgeMachynlleth
Langly PointLlangollen
*Steyning*Aber
RomseyGors Goch
Pages Bottom*West Malvern
Burcombe*Oakham
Sydling St. Nicholas*Deer Hill
Sneedhams GreenAlnwick
Seven SpringsHallington
Sherborne*Hameldon
*Chevithorne*Crowdon
*Morgan Hayes*Diggle
*TrenarrowBalnahow
Shillamill*Thorpe Cloud
RoundballHorncastle
SymondsburyTulloch
Brimmond HillDunotter
KnockdonGranton on Spey
GlenshellochKnockmaroy
MayboleFoxbar
KincraigPolnicol
KingussieGreenhill
NewcastletonRaith
GolspieCaighton
DunoonPortsoy
Those marked with an asterisk have been or are being acquired for use by schools or rifle associations. The remainder are closed.

Hms "Daedalus"

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the calculations which Jed him to conclude that the transfer of H.M.S. "Daedalus" to Arbroath would result in a saving of £200,000 per annum.

The present total annual running costs of the Air Electrical and Air Engineering Schools at Lee-on-Solent and Arbroath are £2·3 million. Lee-on-Solent also contains Flag Officer Naval Air Command's Headquarters and a number of Miscellaneous Units. These facilities cost £0·9 million per annum and could not be moved to Arbroath. When fixed wing flying phases out it would cost £1·2 million per annum to keep Arbroath open to run the combined Air Electrical and Air Engineering Schools. This cost combined with the cost of the Headquarters and Miscellaneous Units at Lee-on-Solent gives a total annual cost of £2T million. The saving to Defence Votes of this arrangement over the present annual cost would thus be £200,000 per annum.

Economic Affairs

Severnside

asked the Secretary of State for Economic Affairs what consultations the Central Unit for Environmental Planning has had with Cardiff Corporation on their study of Severnside.

None. The unit's task is to assess the feasibility of using the Severnside area to help accommodate the expected major increase in the population of the country as a whole over the next 20 or 30 years. There is continuing consultation with the Welsh Council and the South West Regional Economic Planning Council during the course of the study. But consultation with local authorities about any detailed implications is likely to be more fruitful after the unit's general recommendations have been submitted to the Government.

Education And Science

Marine Sciences (International Co-Operation)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what contracts he has made with the administration of President Nixon on joint cooperation in the marine sciences, along the lines described in the Second Report of the Marine Sciences Council, details of which are in his possession.

None. We appreciate the great importance of questions concerning the ocean environment, but they are already being actively considered in the Intergovernmental Oceanographic Commission of U.N.E.S.C.O. in which the U.S.A. and the U.K. are taking an active part. In these circumstances there appears to be no need for any specifically bilateral initiative, but our marine scientists are maintaining close contact.

Teachers' Pay

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will consider a scheme to weight the pay of teachers in proportion to the number of children in the class that they teach.

Any change in the teachers' salary provisions is a matter for the Burnham Committee. The salaries of head teachers and the number and size of allowances for posts of special responsibility are already related not to size of classes but to the total number of pupils in a school weighted by age.

Male Graduate Teachers (State Schools)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many male graduate teachers are employed in State schools at present; and how this figure compares with September, 1968.

The latest available information relates to 31st March, 1967, when there were 37,909 full-time male graduate teachers in maintained primary and secondary schools.

House Of Commons

Westminster Hall (Son Et Lumière)

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will propose to the Services Committee that permission be given to stage short performances of son et lumière in Westminster Hall during Parliamentary Recesses.

Statutory Appointments

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what statutory appointments are within his patronage.

I make the following statutory appointments:

The Vice-Chancellor of the County Palatine of Lancaster.
The Judge of the Salford Hundred Court of Record.

Overseas Development

Commonwealth Development Corporation

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what plans he has for expanding the work of the Commonwealth Development Corporation, as recommended by the Estimates Committee, in view of its record of profitability as well as value to developing countries.

I have noted with pleasure the remarks of the Estimates Committee concerning the C.D.C. I shall shortly be submitting a White Paper on the Committee's recommendations as a whole and would prefer not to anticipate it.

Developing Countries (Investment)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether he will make a statement about the discussions held in Amsterdam from the 16th to 20th February under the auspices of the United Nations by the Panel on Foreign Investment in Developing Countries.

For the reasons explained in my reply to the hon. Member for Wanstead and Woodford (Mr. Patrick Jenkin) on 14th February, Her Majesty's Government were not represented on the Panel. I have however seen the Agreed Statement issued at the end of the Panel's discussion. This reports that the meeting had been most useful. The Panel recognised the importance of private foreign investment in the economic growth of developing countries and laid particular stress on the desirability of joint ventures, bringing together foreign private capital, host governments and local enterpreneurs.—[Vol. 777, c. 390.]

Overseas Aid

asked the Minister of Overseas Development what relative percentage of British aid and investment go to Commonwealth and to foreign countries, respectively; and what percentage is channelled to or through the United Nations and its agencies.

The latest annual information about private investment, which is available on a net basis, is for 1966. The percentages of net official and private flows in that year were as follows:

Net Private Flows
Net Official Flows*Private investment (net of Disinvestment)Guaranteed Private Export CreditsTotal
Percent.Percent.Percent.Percent.
Common-wealth81324861
Foreign8695233
U.N. and Agencies42
Other Multi-lateral7−13
TOTAL100100100100
* Includes disbursements against the British aid programme and certain other official financial flows recognised internationally as appropriate I the various aid targets. These flows are net amortization of capital but not of Interest payments.
† As defined for the purposes of the aid target
For 1968 information is only available in respect of net official aid. The percentages an Commonwealth countries 80 per cent; foreign countries 8 per cent.; U.N. and its agencies 4 per cent. The remaining 8 per cent. went to other multilateral agencies: the International Development Association and the Asian Development Bank.

Technology

Metrication Board

asked the Minister of Technology what further appointments, he has made to the Metrication Board.

I have appointed the Earl of Bessborough to be Deputy-Chairman of the Board.

Post Office

Retirement Pensioners (Expectation Of Life)

asked the Postmaster-General what is the average age of death of Post Office servants who retire at age 60 or over; and what is the modal age for the same group of staff.