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Volume 779: debated on Monday 10 March 1969

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday, 10th March, 1969

Roads

South-West

24.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps he is taking to improve the roads to the South-West, in view of the additional traffic which will result from the railway supplementary charges to start this summer.

We do not accept that these surcharges will lead to any significant increase in road traffic and do not consider they justify changing the programme for improving the trunk roads to the South-West.

Dorchester, Bridport And Sherborne Bypasses

25.

asked the Minister of Transport when he proposes to authorise the bypasses round Dorchester, Bridport and Sherborne, respectively.

Bypasses of Dorchester and Bridport are being considered for selection for detailed preparation with a view to future programming as trunk road schemes. The Sherborne bypass, a principal road scheme, is at an early stage of preparation by Dorset County Council, the highway authority. Programming decisions will be made when detailed proposals have been received.

A20 (Maidstone)

51.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans he has for the improvement of the A20 east of Maidstone.

The comparative merits of improving the existing A20 or providing a new road on an alternative alignment are now being studied. A preliminary report and recommendation are expected this spring.

Roadworks, Nottingham

53.

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects the roadworks in the Nottingham area referred to in his decision to permit British Railways to close the line between Nottingham, Arkwright Street, and Rugby will be completed.

These roadworks in Loughborough Road will be the subject of a local public inquiry on 16th April. If, after considering the Inspector's report and any outstanding objections my right hon. Friend decides to make the necessary Orders, construction work should be completed by the end of next year.

Road Accidents, Winwick And Newport Pagnell

61.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) whether he has now considered the report on the accident concerning a lorry which last June caused the deaths of six people on the M6 when it crossed the central reservation and struck a family car travelling in the opposite direction; and what action he is taking as a result of the report's conclusions;(2) if he has yet received a report on the accident involving four people killed on the M1 at Newport Pagnell several months ago when their car crossed the central reservation and struck a lorry travelling in the opposite direction; and what action he is taking on the conclusions of the report.

The report on the accident on M6 at Winwick is not yet available and I am unable to comment as the case is still sub-judice. We do not consider that any immediate action is called for following the accident on Ml at Newport Pagnell.

Road Expenditure (Reading)

63.

asked the Minister of Transport what guidance he has given to local authorities about the application of cuts in highways expenditure; and what representations he has received from the Reading Borough Corporation.

On 26th January, 1968, a circular was sent to all local authorities in England asking them to reduce by at least 15 per cent. their planned expenditure on their roads. The need for economy was re-iterated in the recent rate support grant negotiations. There have been discussions with Reading Corporation about one particular proposal.

Street Lighting

64.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is satisfied with the workings of the Local Government Act 1966, in particular the Section relating to street lighting; and, in view of the fact that in certain areas county councils have refused to assume lighting responsibility for these installations until such time as the highways are formally adopted so that street lighting has been temporarily cut off, if he will introduce amending legislation to improve this situation.

I see no grounds for further legislation to limit local authorities in the exercise of their powers on street lighting.

Kingswood Junction, Bilbrook

66.

asked the Minister of Transport what action he now proposes to take to improve road safety at Kingswood Junction, Bilbrook, Staffordshire.

A traffic light system to improve safety at this junction is being designed for installation in the coming financial year. In addition, a "Give Way" sign has been erected on the alternative approach to the A41 from the A464.

Pedestrian Crossings (Lights)

71.

asked the Minister of Transport when green lights will be submitted for the white Xs at X-way pedestrian crossings; and what arrangements have been made to publicise the new Pelican crossings.

We have already announced that the X-way crossing will be replaced by the Pelican which will have a full green light instead of the white X. Publicity will be arranged when Pelican crossings come into operation, but we are still finalising technical details of design.

Speed Limits

72.

asked the Minister of Transport upon what grounds he advised local authorities, in a circular in December last, that where a road with a speed limit had been by-passed there might no longer be a need for a limit.

The construction of a bypass can alter the volume, composition and speed of traffic on a road and consequently the likelihood of accidents. In some cases, where dangers have been substantially reduced, there may no longer be a need for a speed limit.

73.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will add to the advice which he has given to local authorities concerning the removal or increase of speed limits on improved roads further advice on dealing with the difficulties and dangers encountered by pedestrians and on the need to increase crossing facilities following such improvements.

No. Local authorities are already aware of the need to make adequate provision for pedestrians in such circumstances.

asked the Minister of Transport what estimate he has made of the cost to the road haulage industry of changing speed limits to the metric system.

No detailed estimate has been made, but I would expect the cost to be very small.

Road Junction (Manchester)

asked the Minister of Transport what consideration he has given to the need for traffic signals at the junction of Hall Lane and Altrincham Road, Manchester, 23; what application his Department has received from the local authority on this matter; and if he will make a statement.

I have nothing to add to what was said in the letter of 14th February to my hon. Friend. As I explained, it is for Manchester City Council, as highway authority, to decide the priority to be given in their programme of road schemes to a proposed scheme for improving this junction and installing traffic signals.

A47 And A444 (Nuneaton)

asked the Minister of Transport how many representations he has received from the Nuneaton Borough Council and residents in Nuneaton about road improvements on the A47 and A444 in Nuneaton; and what reply he has sent.

The Divisional Road Engineer has had correspondence with the Council during 1968 about these improvements. Representations have been received from owners of property which is affected by a programmed trunk road improvement at Tuttle Hill, and is now being acquired. An inquiry about blight of a property affected by the Bedworth By-Pass extension has been referred to the Council. If my hon. Friend will let me know what particular information he desires I shall be happy to let him have it.

London Traffic Survey

asked the Minister of Transport when Part III of the London Traffic Survey will be published.

I understand that the Greater London Council hope to publish a report shortly.

Motorways (Restaurants And Cafes)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take steps to release operators of restaurants and cafes on land adjacent to motorways where such land is leased from his Department from the obligation to pay to his Department a percentage of gross turnover or profit.

Transport

British Standard Time (Road Accidents)

42.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a further statement about the operation of British Standard Time in relation to road accidents.

asked the Minister of Transport what has been the result of his inquiries into the effects of British Standard Time on road accidents.

It would be wrong to draw conclusions at this stage about the effect of British Standard Time on road accidents. During the months of November and December, 1968, fatal and serious casualties during the morning hours affected by British Standard Time rose by 436,

by comparison with the corresponding periods in 1967, and during the evening hours so affected fell by 663.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a further statement on the effect of continual summer time on accidents to pedestrians.

In the months of November and December, 1968, fatal and serious casualties to pedestrians during the morning hours affected by British Standard Time rose by 198 compared with the corresponding periods in 1967; during the evening hours they fell by 387.

Parked Vehicles (Lights)

43.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will so amend the Road Regulations as to enable local authorities in Dorset to exempt parked vehicles from compulsory lighting on a scale similar to that which exists in London.

The Regulations already empower local chief constables to designate roads on which vehicles may be parked at night without lights.

Transport Act 1968 (Section 138)

46.

asked the Minister of Transport what is his Departmental policy on giving directions as a consequence of Section 138 of the Transport Act, 1968.

My right hon. Friend has no power to direct local authorities to use these powers, but a circular giving information about them has been sent to the local authority associations. I am sending a copy to my hon. Friend.

Passenger Transport Authorities

48.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware that some local authorities in nominating representatives on the new passenger transport authorities have nominated councillors from one political party; and if he will introduce legislation to make it obligatory for local authorities to pay due regard to the political composition of then-council when making such nominations.

Nominations are, under the Act, a matter for the local authorities as with their appointment to other statutory authorities and I have no power to intervene. The Act was passed as recently as November of last year and it is too early to consider amending it.

Road Pricing System

54.

asked the Minister of Transport what progress his Department has made in its study of the possibility of charging for the use of heavily congested roads by motor vehicles.

Prototype equpiment is being developed and the first will be available for exhaustive tests shortly. It will take a considerable time to work out how far a road pricing system is technically feasible and to assess the economic, social and administrative implications.

Channel Tunnel Terminal

58.

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects to announce his decision on the location of the Channel Tunnel Terminal.

When we have completed the necessary studies and consultations, which are now in progress.

National Freight Corporation

59.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps have been taken by the National Freight Corporation to achieve integration of the activities of their subsidiary companies in accordance with Her Majesty's Government's policy as set out in paragraph 21 of Command Paper No. 3470, The Transport of Freight.

I would ask my hon. Friend to await the report on the review of its organisation which the Corporation has a duty to make to me under the provisions of Section 45 of the Transport Act, 1968.

Transport Holding Company

65.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the future of the Transport Holding Company and its travel subsidiaries.

I have not yet completed my consideration of the issues involved. I will make a statement as soon as possible.

Road Freight Rates (West Midlands)

70.

asked the Minister of Transport in view of the fact that the West Midlands district of British Road Services has notified customers of a 10 per cent. increase in rates, with effect from 3rd February, 1969, and that rates were previously raised on 28th January, 1968, and on 1st April, 1968, if he will refer this latest increase to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

We are having some inquiries made of the National Freight Corporation and I will write to the hon. Member as soon as I can.

Bus Fares (Hemel Hempstead)

74.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will refer the recent fare increases of up to 50 per cent. on buses in the Hemel Hempstead area to the National Board for Prices and Incomes.

No. Fares outside the London Transport Special Area are matters for the Traffic Commissioners. I understand that the Metropolitan Traffic Commissioner is arranging a public sitting, to take place shortly, to consider the new "auto-fare" London Transport bus services at Hemel Hempstead and the representations which have been made about them.

Loaded Vehicles (Safety)

75.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is satisfied with the working of the regulations concerning safe loading of road transport vehicles; and if he will make a statement.

We believe the regulations to be working reasonably well, but improvements in the safety of vehicle loading should flow from various measures we have introduced or planned. These include quality licensing and plating of goods vehicles.

Drugs And Driving

asked the Minister of Transport (1) what consultations his Department have had with the European Ministers of Transport about international agreement on legislation on the use of drugs and driving, following recent evidence sent to him by the Automobile Association;(2) what consultations his Department have had with the Federal Department of Transportation in the United States of America about international agreement on legislation on the use of drugs and driving, following recent evidence furnished by the Automobile Association.

None. We have been in touch with the Federal Department of Transportation on the general problem of drugs and driving, but the information which they have so far been able to provide is limited and not necessarily relevant to conditions in this country. International collaboration on this problem is likely to centre on further research proposed by Organisation for Economic Co-operation Development, in which the United Kingdom will be participating through the British Medical Association.

Road Haulage (Operators' Licensing)

asked the Minister of Transport on what basis he chose road haulage firms for the pilot scheme of application forms for quality licences.

The pilot scheme is being carried out by three of the independent licensing authorities. I understand that their aim was to draw a broadly representative sample of the firms which will ultimately be subject to operators' licensing.

asked the Minister of Transport what consultations he is having with road haulage organisations about the form of application for quantity licensing.

British Transport Police (Powers)

asked the Minister of Transport what is the machinery for consultation between his Department and the Home Office on matters concerning the extension of the British Transport Police powers.

The Departments consult on these matters, as on others, in the ordinary course of business.

Bus Grants (Claim Forms)

asked the Minister of Transport how many representations he has received from bus operators concerning difficulties in obtaining claim forms from licensing authorities for bus grants under the Transport Act 1968, Sections 32, 33 and 34; what reply he has sent; what steps he is taking to improve supplies; and whether he will make a statement.

All traffic area offices now have supplies of claim forms for new bus grants. The increase in the bus fuel grant is being paid under the existing claims procedure for this grant, of which all operators are aware. Rural bus grants are a matter for local authorities in the first instance. Inquiries received about the new bus grant claim procedure have been answered. I have received no other representations from operators.

Retirement Pensioners (Travel Concessions)

asked the Minister of Transport how many Scottish local authorities have taken advantage of the Transport Act, 1968, giving concessionary fares to retirement pensioners; if he will make a statement giving the names of the local authorities who have not taken advantage; and if he will send a further circular to them.

This information is not available to me. The extent to which local authorities use their powers to arrange travel concessions is in their discretion. Their attention has been drawn to the new powers by means of the circular referred to in my Answer of 27th November, 1968, to my hon. Friend.—[Vol. 774, c. 136.]

Road Vehicles (Abnormal Loads)

asked the Minister of Transport why an abnormal load 16 feet high, 14 feet wide and 140 feet long weighing 120 tons from Penrith to Port Talbot in November last was routed via Huddersfield and Oldham; and how much extra major road mileage was involved and which large towns were affected by this routing.

My right hon. Friend did not authorise the use of the route referred to. Inquiries to identify the load are being pursued and I will write to my hon. Friend.

Railways

Weymouth-Bournemouth Rail Link

44.

asked the Minister of Transport why his proposed subsidy in respect of the Weymouth-Bournemouth rail link is limited to one year.

The Railways Board were under very heavy pressure to prepare over 220 grant applications during 1968. With my right hon. Friend's agreement they prepared detailed estimates of costs for certain services, including that between Bournemouth and Weymouth, for 1969 only.

Transport Act 1968 (Section 48)

60.

asked the Minister of Transport what proposals have been submitted to him by the Railways Board under the terms of Section 48(4) of the Transport Act, 1968; and what steps he is taking to satisfy himself that the Workshops Division of the Railways Board has a selling organisation equipped to make use of the powers granted under Section 48.

My right hon. Friend has not yet received proposals from the Railways Board under Section 48(4) of the 1968 Transport Act, but expects to do so within the next few weeks. The setting up of a selling organisation would be a matter of management for the Board.

Machynlleth-Pwllheli Line

asked the Minister of Transport whether the social cost/benefit study of the Machynlleth-Pwllheli railway line has been completed; and when it will be published.

The report on the study is now in the final stages of drafting. I hope that it will be published within the next two or three months.

Railway Workshops

asked the Minister of Transport what was the value of the output of British Railways' workshops in each of the last five years.

The British Railways Board have supplied the following information:

£million
196483
196590
196681
196785
196889

Mid-Hampshire Line (Kings Worthy)

asked the Minister of Transport whether, before reaching a decision on the proposed closure of the mid-Hampshire railway, he will ascertain from British Railways the estimated increased revenue obtainable from the building of a halt at Kings Worthy.

No. I am satisfied that the financial effect of building a halt at Kings Worthy could not be a significant factor in this case.

Rail Closures

asked the Minister of Transport what steps he takes to check the accuracy of figures supplied to him by the Transport Commission in respect of estimated future annual losses when the Commission is submitting a proposal for a rail closure.

It is the responsibility of the Railways Board to supply accurate figures. Naturally I make commonsense checks.

Train Punctuality

68.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give a general direction to the British Railways Board to publish monthly, region by region, the percentage of local and express passenger trains that arrive at their destination within five minutes of the scheduled time.

No. Statistics on train punctuality are regularly supplied to the Central Transport Consultative Committee.

Wareham-Swanage Line

asked the Minister of Transport (1) if he will give a breakdown of the £65,000 estimated annual loss on the Wareham/Swanage railway line;(2) on what date he received a letter from the Swanage Urban District Council dated 17th January, 1969, referring to the Wareham/Swanage railway closure; and on what date he replied to it.

The breakdown of the figure has already been given to the hon. Member in correspondence, but I am circulating it in the OFFICIAL REPORT. The letter dated 17th January from Swanage Urban District Council, which was also concerned with this figure, was received on 20th January. A full reply to this and two further letters was sent on 13th February.The following is the information:

Cost:£
Movement25,000
Terminal15,000
Track and signalling35,000
Interest and administration13,000
88,000
Earnings20,000
68,000
less estimated saving from de-staffing of stations2,500
Deficit65,500

Ports

Container Berths

67.

asked the Minister of Transport what estimate he has made for the provision of container berths in all ports handling more than five million tons of goods per year; and how many berths have been completed and approved, respectively.

I understand that 12 container berths are now completed in the areas of the harbour authorities listed in paragraph 10 of the White Paper on the Reorganisation of the Ports. A further four are under construction, of which three required my approval. The initiation of further proposals for such berths is a matter for the operators concerned, but I am expecting proposals for a further three or four berths.

Civil Service

Chairmen Of Nationalised Boards (Salaries)

76 and 77.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service (1) whether he will give his approval to the two-tier system of payment for chairmen of nationalised boards whereby the first-tier chairmen will have their £12,500 per annum salaries increased to £20,000 per annum and the second-tier up to £15,000–£16,000 per annum and the Chairman of the Steel Board from £16,000 per annum to £27,000 per annum; and if he will make a statement;(2) whether he will give an assurance that he will not agree to increase the salaries of the chairmen of the nationalised boards above the Government's 3½ per cent. norm;(3) whether he will, in accordance with Government policy, require any increase in salaries to the chairmen of nationalised boards to be based upon productivity increases similar to industrial workers.

The question of revising the salaries of the chairmen of nationalised boards will be considered in the light of the forthcoming report from the National Board for Prices and Incomes. It would not be right for me to comment further at this stage.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Civil Aircraft (Unlawful Seizure)

78.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will seek the agreement of other powers to measures to prevent continued acts of piracy against civil airlines.

We are already actively engaged with other member States within the International Civil Aviation Organisation in seeking measures to prevent unlawful seizure of aircraft and other acts of unlawful interference with civil aviation.

Israel (Supply Of Arms)

79.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs from which hon. Members he received representations concerning the supply of arms to Israel.

Nigeria (Food And Medical Supplies)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the total value of food and medical supplies sent to Nigeria by Her Majesty's Government since the outbreak of hostilities.

Her Majesty's Government has spent £44,050 on the purchase of food and medical supplies. This contribution takes no account of our expenditure on vehicles and other transport costs, nor of our general financial contribution to the International Committee of the Red Cross for Nigerian relief purposes. Her Majesty's Government has given nearly £1,000,000 to Nigerian relief so far.

Jordan (Supply Of Missiles)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs from which hon. Members he received representations concerning the supply of missiles to Jordan.

Representations have been received from my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Blackley (Mr. Rose) and, in more general terms, from other hon. Members.

Employment And Productivity

Redundant Workers (Training)

80.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what steps are being taken by her Department to encourage people between the ages of 40 and 65 to enter into Government training centres for retraining after redundancy.

Redundant workers between the ages of 40 and 65 who appear suitable for the accelerated training for skill given at Government training centres receive the same encouragement to apply as those under 40. Experience has shown, however, that most of the re-training required by redundant workers of all ages is at the semi-skilled operator level, and this is best given by their new employers.

Wales

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what was the latest figure for unemployment among men between the ages of 40 and 50 and 50 and 65 in Wales; and what percentage these two groups represent of the total unemployed among men in Wales.

Of a total of 34,101 males registered as wholly unemployed in Wales at 13th January, 1969, the latest date for which a detailed age analysis is available, 17,071 or 50·1 per cent., were aged 40 to 64. Of these 5,736 were aged 40 to 49 and 11,335 were aged 50 to 64.

Cammell Laird, Birkenhead (Government Contracts)

82.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what estimate she has made of the effects upon unemployment in the Merseyside Development Area during the next three years of the Government's decision to cease placing contracts for the construction and re-fitting of nuclear submarines at Cammell Laird, Birkenhead.

No estimate has been made at this stage as no pending redundancies arising out of the Government's decision have been notified to my Department. Any effects upon employment will depend on what other work the firm has in hand and is successful in obtaining in the future.

Distributive Industry Training Board

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the estimate cost of operating the Distributive Industry Training Board.

The Board's estimated expenditure in its first year, to the end of July, 1969, is about £150,000. No estimates can yet be formed of costs when the Board is fully in operation.

Redpath Dorman Long

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what steps she is taking to ensure alternative employment for the men due to be dismissed by the British Steel Corporation from the Redpath Dorman Long fabricating shop on 31st May; how many have been assured of alternative work comparable with their skills; how many are as yet unprovided for with any alternative jobs; how many have indicated that they will have to move home to find alternative work; and what estimate she has made of the total amount of redundancy pay involved.

Details of the workers to be discharged are not yet available to my local officers. Arrangements are in hand for the interviewing and registering for other work of those concerned and it is hoped that this will start about mid April. Until the interviews take place, specific information about the workers' redeployment cannot be given and there is little I can add in this respect to my letter of 3rd January to the hon. Member. It is not possible at this stage to estimate the total amount of redundancy pay that may be involved.

Agriculture, Horticulture And Forestry

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will estimate the number of employed persons in each of the agriculture, horticulture and forestry industries at the latest convenient date.

At June, 1968, the estimated numbers of employees in employment in agriculture and horticulture (Minimum List Heading 001 of the 1958 edition of the Standard Industrial Classification) and forestry (MLH 002) were 377,000 and 17,400, respectively. Estimates are not made for agriculture and for horticulture separately.

Swan Hunter (Ancillary Workers)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the estimated percentage increase in rates, earnings and productivity arising from the recent offer by Swan Hunter to over 2,000 ancillary workers; and whether these workers were also covered by the national engineering award concluded in December.

No agreement has yet been reached on an offer made by the company concerning ancillary workers. I understand that discussions are continuing with the National Union of General and Municipal Workers. The ancillary workers at Swan Hunter are covered by the national shipbuilding agreement concluded in December, 1968.

Exhibition Workers (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the estimated percentage increase in rates and earnings and productivity expected to arise from the settlement of the dispute involving electricians and other exhibition workers.

As the hon. Member will be aware, the disputes at Earls Court and Olympia have not yet been settled.

Armstrong Patents (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the latest position regarding the dispute at Armstrong Patents concerning the interpretation of the national engineering agreement; and if she will make a statement.

The dispute was resolved following discussions between the company and the unions under the auspices of the Engineering Employers' Federation, and work was resumed on 10th February. My Department is obtaining further details of the settlement.

Independent Television Technicians

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is the latest state of negotiations between independent television technicians and their employers; and if she can yet make a provisional assessment of the percentage increase in rates, earnings and productivity arising from the claim.

I have nothing to add to my Answer to the hon. Member of 27th January, 1969.—[Vol. 776, c. 240.]

Journalists (Pay Agreement)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will ask the National Board for Prices and Incomes to indicate in the report they are now preparing how a percentage measurement can be made of the work of a journalist employed by London and Manchester national newspapers.

The National Board for Prices and Incomes is required to pay regard to the Government's Productivity, Prices and Incomes Policy and will consider the relevance of the productivity criterion when it makes its examination of the recent pay settlement affecting London and Manchester journalists.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether she will now make a statement on the journalists' pay claim.

My right hon Friend has today referred to the National Board for Prices and Incomes for examination the pay agreement reached on 1st December, 1968, between the Newspaper Publishers' Association and the National Union of journalists.

Rover Motor Company

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many strikes have taken place in the Rover Motor Company since December; how many pay settlements have been concluded as a result of these strikes; and what is the estimated range of percentage increases in rates, earnings and productivity arising from those settlements.

My Department has been notified of three strikes at the Rover Company Limited since December 1968; no pay settlements are known to have been concluded as a result.

Social Services

Retirement Pension

83.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the relationship of the present retirement pension to that payable in 1948, having regard to the increase in the cost of living.

The current retirement pension rates of £4 10s. (single) and £7 6s. (married) exceeded the January, 1969, value of the corresponding 1948 rates by £1 14s. and £2 15s. 6d. respectively. Calculated by reference to the change in the Index of Retail Prices, the January, 1969, equivalents of the 1948 rates of £1 6s. (single) and £2 2s. (married) were £2 16s. and £4 10s. 6d. respectively.

Members' Pension Scheme

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the present Members' Pension Scheme, details of which are in his possession, meets the criteria for contracting out under the proposals outlined in the White Paper on Social Security, Command No. 3883.

The conditions for contracting out employed persons under these proposals will need to be prescribed in detail before particular schemes can be tested against them.

Mentally-Handicapped Persons (Insurance Contributions)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what considerations he has given to extending the exemption period for payment of national health and insurance stamps for mentally-handicapped adults in full and part-time training.

My hon. Friend has given us details of a particular case he has in mind and I shall write to him when I have considered it.

Graduated Pension Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated annual value of the graduated pension to be paid to a man who reaches 65 in 40 years' time whose contributions for the years ended 5th April, 1968, 1967, 1966 and 1965 were £23 14s., £17 10s. 6d., £11 7s. 8d. and £7 Is. Id., respectively, and whose total units to 5th April, 1968, were 8·7, taking into account changes in the purchasing power of the £ between now and the date of his retirement.

Under current provisions and assuming no addition to be made to the 8·7 units, the answer in cash terms is £11 14s. I prefer not to speculate about the purchasing power of the £ in the year 2,009.

Constant Attendance Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make the constant attendance allowance, proposed in the White Paper Command No. 3883, available to widows and unsupported mothers who have to stay at home to look after an invalid child.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Somerset, North (Mr. Dean) on 3rd February.—[Vol. 777, c. 31–2.]

Noise (Research Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services, if he will state the total amount spent on research into the effects of noise on health in each of the last 10 years.

The identifiable expenditure of Government departments on the effect of noise on health, in the past ten years, was:

1958–9–1961–2None
1962–3£11,800
1963–4£25,400
1964–5£21,900
1965–6£18,400
1966–7£23,400
1967–8£60,000
1968–9£70,000
The figures for 1967–8 and 1968–9 include sums of £44,000 and £54,000 for investigation of the effects of aircraft noise as a social nuisance, which is relevant to health. The figures do not include the cost of research in a number of universities, since the expenditure is not easily ascertainable, nor that of studies of the effect of noise carried on by the Applied Psychology Research Unit of the Medical Research Council as part of a wider programme of research into factors affecting working efficiency.

Death Certificate (Toxteth)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why no copy death certificate forms were available at the Registry at High Park Street, Toxteth, for a period of at least eight days from the 13th February, 1969.

I very much regret that this should have happened. The Registrar General is investigating the matter and I will write to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.

Welfare Clinics (Baby Foods)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his Department's policy on the sale of proprietary brands of baby food at infant welfare clinics.

Local health authorities have been advised that the decision whether to sell these commodities at clinics is a matter for the individual authority.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what percentage of all the relevant authorities still permit the sale of proprietary brands of baby foods at infant welfare clinics.

Seebohm Committee (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he now expects to announce his decision regarding the implementation of the Seebohm Report.

The Government will seek to make an interim statement about the Report after publication of the report of the Royal Commission on Local Government in England.

Family Planning Clinics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will list the local authorities which do not yet provide family planning clinics.

There is nothing to add to the reply given by my hon. Friend to the hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock) on 29th January.—[Vol. 776, c. 353.]

Emigration

asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services what was the total number of United Kingdom citizens who emigrated in each of the years 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, and 1968; and to which Commonwealth countries they emigrated, stating the numbers of emigrants involved in each case.

EMIGRATION OF UNITED KINGDOM CITIZENS*
Thousands
Country of destinationAustraliaCanadaNew ZealandAfrica†India, Pakistan and CeylonWest IndiesOther Commonwealth countriesTotal CommonwealthForeign countriesTotal
19647427141043714062202
19658536131043815960219
19668057141124617357230
19677656131234617167238
First three quarters 196856274912410552157
* Estimates derived from the International Passenger Survey. An emigrant is defined as a person going overseas for a year or more. Traffic with the Republic of Ireland is excluded,
† Ghana, Kenya, Malawi, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia.

Venereal Disease

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will indicate separately the number of men and women who have applied to venereal disease centres for treatment in the years 1950, 1955, 1960, 1965, 1966, 1967 and to the latest available date.

The following table shows the number of men and women in England and Wales who sought advice at venereal disease treatment centres for the years in question. More detailed information is published in Appendix C to the Chief Medical Officer's Annual Report for the year 1967.

YearLegally defined venereal disease (Syphilis, soft chancre, Gonorrhoea)Other conditions requiring treatment (including non-gonococcal urethritis in males)Other conditions not requiring treatmentTotal
Males
195023,41955,068*78,487
195517,07527,88224,43669,393
196029,24539,39726,08794,729
196530,76350,54030,324111,627
196630,45553,05729,414112,926
196733,14257,65528,748119,545
Females
19508,50223,840*32,342
19556,04810,1829,07525,305
19608,70215,19910,87634,777
196510,07422,84214,48547,401
196610,78925,10215,94651,837
196712,35428,41715,95856,729
* Separate figures not available for 1950.

The following table gives the available information:cost of administering venereal diseases centres in the years 1950, 1955, 1960, 1965, 1967 and to the latest available date.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of those people who have applied for venereal disease treatment under the National Health Service have had their names referred to the Medical Officer of Health for the Basildon and Brentwood Urban Districts for the period 1960 to 1968.

Doctors' Prescriptions (Metric System)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to ensure that doctors who dispense their own prescriptions to the public use metric rather than imperial weights.

I am sending the hon. Member a copy of a notice sent by executive councils to all doctors who dispense for their patients under the National Health Service drawing their attention to the need for all medicines supplied by them to be in metric quantities.

Doctors' Surgeries (Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many doctors have received financial assistance for improvement of their surgeries, in the borough of Rhondda, the county of Glamorgan and the whole of Wales, respectively; and what has been the total cost in each of these areas.

The information is as follows:

Number of Practices and DoctorsAmount of Grant
£
Borough of RhonddaNilNil
County of Glamorgan17 (36Doctors)3,541
Wales43(103Doctors)9,081
In addition advances of grant totalling £1,236 have been made to three practices (seven doctors) in the county of Glamorgan in respect of schemes which are in progress but not completed.

Doctors (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the estimated percentage increase in the productivity of National Health Service doctors over the past three years; and what estimated percentage increase in productivity is expected to arise from the recent 8 per cent. salary increase confirmed by the Government.

It is not possible to measure productivity of individual medical practitioners in the manner suggested.

Commonwealth Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what county boroughs, other than Wolverhampton, now maintain records which would indicate what proportion of the births in their area are to Commonwealth immigrant mothers.

Hospitals

Out-Patients (Travel Concessions)

86.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is aware that, following the centralisation of hospital services, patients in Wales needing out-patient hospital treatment have to travel longer distances twice or three times a week in some cases for long periods; and, in view of the effects of the increased cost of travel on low wage earners, if he will take steps to introduce free travel concessions for such patients after the first three visits to hospital.

Arrangements already exist to provide financial help to meet the travel expenses of hospital patients when the need for such help is established. I am sending my hon. Friend a copy of a memorandum which describes these arrangements in detail.

Leicester Royal Infirmary

86.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the delay in securing hospital beds in the Leicester Royal Infirmary for operations on two of the constituents of the hon. Member for Leicester, North-West, details of which have been sent to him by the hon. Member; why there has been a four-year delay in admitting one of them; and what steps he is taking to rectify the position.

87.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will state the average delay in patients obtaining appointments in the out-patient department of the Leicester Royal Infirmary for consultations recommended by the patients' doctors; and what is the waiting time for admission for operations of non-urgent surgical cases, gynaecological cases and medical cases.

National Finance

Government Department (Advertising And Public Relations Expenditure)

88.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the sums spent on advertising and public relations by Government Departments, shown separately, including the Post Office, in each of the last five calendar years excluding costs arising from employment under the Crown but including the cost of Press advertisements, posters, pamphlets, etc., and payments to agencies and consultants outside the Government service.

To provide all the information which the hon. Gentleman wants would involve disproportionate cost, but he may care to refer to the Memorandum by the Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Table 9) for the years in question.

Pennies

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps he is taking to reduce the supply of pennies being minted leading up to their withdrawal from circulation in 1971.

The penny will continue in general circulation for a further two years and for the time being the Royal Mint must continue to meet demand:

Agriculture (Credit)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether lending to agriculture occupies as high a place as lending for exports on the list of categories which enjoy priority for the granting of credit.

In the guidance which has been given to the banks on direction of lending, the category with the highest priority includes lending for export transactions, finance for production and investment necessary to sustain increased exports, the promotion of invisible earnings, and, as in the case of agriculture, securing savings in imports.

Scotland

Teachers

89.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what, at the latest convenient date, was the number of teachers employed by local education authorities who had reached the age of 65 years in posts of special responsibility and the age of 70 in other posts.

This information is not at present available but will be available from the computerised teachers' records now being prepared.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what are the salary scales applied to untrained teachers in Scottish schools whose appointments have not been considered by reference panels; and what salary scales are applied to such teachers in the event of their appointments being confirmed by the reference panels;(2) what salary scales are applied to teachers who are conditionally registered with the General Teaching Council.

It is for an education authority itself to determine the remuneration of such teachers. Information about the salaries paid is not available centrally.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many teachers in Scottish local authority schools, at the most recent date for which figures are available, fall into the categories registered, provisionally registered, conditionally registered, unregistered but approved by reference panels, and other persons, respectively.

Returns giving the numbers of registered teachers—including provisionally registered teachers—and of conditionally registered teachers serving in the schools in December are still being processed and total figures are not yet available. As regards the further categories I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend, the Member for Bothwell (Mr. James Hamilton) on 3rd March. There are in addition 353 certificated but unregistered teachers, of whom 142 have applied for registration.—[Vol. 779, c. 32–4.]

School Building

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what proportion of new school building in Scotland in 1965–66, 1966–67 and 1967–68 was by industrialised methods; and what are the equivalent figures for new university building and new further education building.

Industrialised methods were used for the following percentages of building started in the years shown:

1965–661966–671967–68
Schools3·61·414·9
Further educationNil4·111·4
I understand from my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science that the corresponding percentages for university building in Scotland authorised to start in these years were 5·2, 4·1 and nil respectively.

Scottish Trades Union Congress (Meeting)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he has arranged to meet the Scottish Trades Union Congress; and what matters will be discussed at the meeting.

I have arranged together with a number of my right hon. Friends with responsibilities in the economic and industrial fields, to meet representatives of the General Council of the S.T.U.C. on 19th March. The S.T.U.C. have indicated that they wish to discuss a number of matters affecting the Scottish economy.

Sheriff Courts (Legislation)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has accepted the recommendation in paragraph 794 of the Grant Committee's Report that required legislation on sheriff courts be taken in two stages; and when he expects to introduce the Bill dealing with the planning of court business.

Yes. The initial legislation will deal with the planning of sheriff court business, and although the necessary Bill cannot be ready in the present Session I hope to introduce it as soon thereafter as Parliamentary business permits.

General Teaching Council

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what recent representations he has received from teaching associations in Scotland, regarding the future of the General Teaching Council; and what were the terms of his replies.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply of 6th March to my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, Maryhill (Mr. Hannan).—[Vol. 779, c. 173.]

Scottish Council (Development And Industry) (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has studied the Report of the Scottish Council (Development and Industry) published on 26th February regarding the effect on Scotland's economy over the next 20 years of the increasing tendency to centralise the top functions of industry and commerce in London; and if he will make a statement on these and other recommendations made by the Council.

I have seen reports in the Press of the statement to which my hon. Friend refers. I understand that the Scottish Council published the statement to stimulate thought on the subject and that they themselves intend to give further consideration to the matters with which it deals.

Local Authority Members (Allowances)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland on which dates the financial loss allowances, subsistence allowances and car allowances, respectively, for local government representatives were last increased; and, in view of the loss being incurred by those local authority members, when he intends to amend the regulations.

The financial loss allowance for local authority elected members was last increased in August, 1966; the travelling and subsistence allowances in February, 1965; and the motor mileage allowances in March, 1954 (although the public transport equivalent rate for motor car users was increased in September, 1962). I have received from the local authority associations representations that these allowances should be increased, and have asked them for detailed proposals and supporting evidence.

Tenement Properties (Repairs)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that residents in properties which have been abandoned by owners are free from liability to contribute to common repairs in tenement properties with the consequence that increasing financial liabilities are being placed on owner-occupiers and business firms in such properties; and if he will consider taking steps to remedy this situation.

Licensed Premises

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total number of premises licensed to sell liquor in Scotland in the years 1948, 1958 and 1968, respectively.

Figures for 1968 are not yet available. The following table gives the number of licensing certificates granted in 1948, 1958 and 1967, the latest available year:

19488,114
19588,391
196710,594

House Building (Tenders)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is aware that building firms which tender regularly for building houses which are subject to approval by his Department are paying high dividends; and if he will pay special attention to tender prices, in view of the high cost of houses in Scotland by comparison with other areas.

The system for controlling centrally the cost of subsidised housing ensures that only reasonable tender prices are accepted in the public sector.

Housing, Glasgow (Rents)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the range of registered rents fixed under the Rent Act, 1965, for the following types of property in Glasgow over the most recent convenient 12-month period, namely, two-apartment houses with outside water closets, three-apartment houses with outside water closets, two-apartment houses with scullery, bath room and hot water, and three-apartment houses with scullery, bathroom and hot water.

Houses (Improvement Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average cost of improving two- and three-apartment houses.

I have no information which enables me to relate improvement costs to particular sizes of house.

Ministry Of Defence

Nuclear Submarines (Refitting Programme)

90.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence at which of Her Majesty's dockyards it is proposed in the future to carry out refit work on nuclear submarines; and how much expenditure he estimates will be incurred by his department in order to provide the requisite facilities at these dockyards.

On the location of the nuclear refitting programme, I have nothing to add to the statement made in today's debate by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for the Royal Navy.The nuclear facilities at Rosyth and Chatham, which are substantially complete, will have cost approximately £5 million and £6 million respectively by the time the work is finished. It will not be possible to provide a similar estimate for Devonport until planning reaches a more advanced stage.

Armed Forces' Pay (Questionnaire)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the nature and purpose of the questionnaire being secretly circulated to officers and men of the Royal Navy inquiring into their circumstances and their views on future emoluments in lieu of accommodation and kindred matters; whether he is aware that the questions suggest their own answers; what advice men are allowed to seek in filling in such forms confidentially; and if he will lay copies of the relevant documents.

No questionnaires are being circulated secretly to the Fleet. I assume the hon. Member is referring to a recent survey carried out, with the full agreement and co-operation of the Ministry of Defence and the Services, by the National Board for Prices and Incomes as part of its work on the standing reference on the pay of the Armed Forces. The content and handling of the survey were agreed by the Board with the Ministry of Defence; no questions are drafted to suggest an answer, which would be a self-defeating exercise. As the purpose of the survey is to assist the Board in assessing the opinions of individual servicemen, it would be improper for me, or anyone else, to advise them how to reply. The questionnaire is a confidential communication between the Board and the individuals concerned; it is for the Board to consider whether, and if so how, it might be published.

"Victory In The West" (Publication)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the date on which Volume I of "Victory in the West", the official history of the Normandy to Denmark campaign of 1944–45 was published; when he expects to publish Volume II; and what is the reason for the delay.

"Victory in the West", Volume I was published in December 1962. No firm date has yet been given by Her Majesty's Stationery Office for publication of Volume II, which is now at the binders, but it is expected in May this year. Publication has been delayed owing to printing difficulties.

Search And Rescue Facilities (Manston)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if a decision has now been reached about the future of the Royal Air Force search and rescue helicopter detachment at Manston; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. It has now been decided to withdraw the detachment on 31st March. The aircraft and their crews are urgently needed to provide search and rescue facilities at R.A.F. station, El Adem, in Libya, which is now being used more intensively for purposes of operational training.I have given thorough and sympathetic consideration to the representations made by local authorities on the Kent and Sussex Coasts and other bodies about the value of the services provided by this unit, particularly in the rescue of yachtsmen and holiday-makers who get into difficulties.As has been explained previously, however, in answers to questions in the House of Commons on 17th January, 1967—[Vol. 739, c.

20–21]—and in the House of Lords on 1st December, 1966—[Vol. 278, c. 796–8]—these helicopters are provided to meet Service requirements, though where they exist for such purposes, they are willingly made available as a contribution to the civilian rescue services in the area. Owing to changes over the years in the deployment of the Royal Air Force, there is no longer a Service need for a detachment

to be based at Manston, and the requirement at El Adem has a very much higher Service priority. No other helicopters are available.

I fully realise that the withdrawal of the detachment will come as a serious disappointment in the area which it at present serves. The area will not, however, be completely without a helicopter rescue service, since it is within range of other detachments based in East Anglia and in Sussex, though it would take a helicopter longer to arrive on the scene.

Home Department

Vehicles (Excessive Noise)

91.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions there were in 1968 for excessive noise on the roads.

Provisional figures indicate that during the first nine months of 1968 there were in England and Wales about 10,390 prosecutions for vehicle noise offences other than sounding a horn.

Vehicles (Emission Of Smoke)

92.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions there were in 1968 for the emission of black smoke by vehicles.

Provisional figures indicate that during the first nine months of 1968 there were in England and Wales about 1,950 prosecutions for the unlawful emission of smoke and other harmful substances.

Mr Dinh Ba Thi

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why Mr. Dinh Ba Thi, a National Liberation Front South Vietnamese representative, was not allowed to enter Great Britain to attend meetings to which he had been invited.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why Mr. Dinh Ba Thi has not been allowed to enter this country, to put the case of the South Vietnamese National Liberation Front.

Because it was not clear that the criterion indicated in the Answer I gave on 19th December to a Question by the hon. Member for Orpington (Mr. Lubbock) would be met.—[Vol. 775, c. 442–3.]

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Agricultural Mortgage Corporation (Loans)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate what effect the decision by the Agricultural Mortgage Corporation to increase its lending rate to 9¼ per cent. will have on the Government's agricultural expansion programme.

I do not anticipate any significant effect on the expansion programme, since loans by the Agricultural Mortgage Corporation are used mainly for the purchase of land already in agricultural use.

Rated Agricultural Premises (Employees)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the number of persons employed in agricultural work which is principally carried on in rated agricultural premises.

The information is not available which would enable such an estimate to be made.

Fertilisers

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the number of tons of fertilisers used by farmers who employ no labour other than family labour.

It is regretted that this information cannot be obtained from available records.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the. necessary deduction per ton of fertiliser required to raise the Agriculture, Forest-y and Horticulture Industries Training Board levy for 1969–70 from the fertiliser subsidy.

I estimate that a deduction of 5s. per ton of subsidised fertilisers in Great Britain would raise about £1¼ million. This is approximately the same as the sum required to finance the operations of the Board in the current year 1968–69. I cannot estimate what the needs of the Training Board might be in any future year.

Annual Review (White Paper)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to announce details of the Annual Farm Price Review.

I hope to be able to publish the Annual Review White Paper on Wednesday 19th March.

Education And Science

Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much is to be spent per child or per student in the years 1968–69, 1969–70 and 1970–71 on primary education, secondary education, technical education and university education, respectively.

The information is as follows:

ESTIMATED CURRENT PUPIL OR STUDENT PUBLIC EXPENDITURE PER IN ENGLAND AND WALES
1968–691969–701970–71
£££
Financial year
Primary Schools788282
Secondary Schools141146147
Further Education270269270
Universities (G.B.)756766809 See note 4(i)

Notes

Primary and secondary schools and further education

1. The figures represent estimated teaching and other costs per pupil or student (excluding school meals and milk and awards to pupils and students) in maintained schools and establishments of further education. They are based on:—

  • (i) relevant expenditure for rate support grant at November 1968 prices. increased only to include estimated additional expenditure on teachers' salaries in primary and secondary schools from 1st April 1969 as a result of the recent provisional Burnham agreement. Increases in salaries of other teachers and in other costs will in due course serve to increase the figures for 1969–70 and 1970–71; and
  • (ii) estimated numbers of pupils in January of each financial year and of full-time equivalent students in November.
  • 2. The figures should be treated with caution because of the uncertainty about the extent to which rate-borne expenditure in the next two years will be in line with the Exchequer's contribution through rate support grant.

    3. The relevant expenditure accepted for rate support grant in the next two years assumed a small increase in non-teaching costs per pupil and student. In the total figures for unit costs in primary schools this increase is concealed in 1970–71 by a small reduction in teaching costs per pupil; it is assumed that the average salary per teacher will decline slightly because of the steady change in the age structure of the teaching profession. In further education the increase per student in non-teaching costs is similarly concealed in 1969–70 by an assumption that teaching costs per student will fall somewhat as a result of the more effective deployment of staff, in line with the recommendations of the Pilkington Committee on the size of teaching groups.

    Universities

    4. The figures represent the recurrent grant per student and exclude awards. They are based on:—
  • (i) the original quinquennial grants (excluding grants for equipment, which since 1st August 1968 have been treated as an item of capital expenditure) adjusted for increases in university teachers' salaries from October 1968 and, in 1970–71 only, for other cost increases and
  • (ii) actual or estimated student numbers in October of each financial year.
  • Higher Education (Students)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, what was the student population in universities, colleges of education, polytechnics and all other institutions of higher education, respectively, in 1951, 1963 and at the nearest convenient date; and what it is estimated to be in 1972.

    The table below gives the number of full-time and sandwich course students.

    '000
    Academic Years
    1951–521963–641967–68
    Universities in England and Wales68104168
    Universities in Scotland152232
    England and Wales Colleges of Education275697
    Advanced courses ingrant-aided further education establishments11*45†66
    Total on advanced courses121227363
    * Estimated.
    † Including 11,500 students in what were then Colleges of Advanced Technology and have since become Universities.

    In 1972–73 the corresponding total number of full-time and sandwich students on advanced courses is expected to be about 430,000.

    In addition to the full-time and sandwich course students there were part-time students on advanced courses in these institutions numbering about 41,000 in 1951–52, 120,000 in 1963–64 and 134,000 in 1967–68. No projections are available for 1972–73.

    Local Government

    Rent Officers

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what were the numbers of rent officers in the areas of the 15 rent assessment panels in 1966, 1967, 1968 and currently.

    This information is tabulated below.

    RENT OFFICER COMPLEMENTS
    Panel1st July,19661st July,19671stJuly,19687thMarch,1969
    London85898887
    Northern13131313
    Yorkshire34191212
    Manchester31302423
    Liverpool14151212
    West Midland27251717
    East Midland33262223
    Eastern19171414
    Luton9765
    Thames Valley1414127
    Bristol15141010
    Devon and Cornwall111188
    Southern11111111
    Surrey and Sussex16161614
    Kent7777
    Total339314272263

    Local Authority Members (Travelling Expenses)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to empower local councils, and not their officers, to adjudicate on the legitimacy of travelling expenses claimed by councillors in the course of their council duties.

    I am not aware of a need for such legislation but I will consider the point raised by my hon. Friend.

    Warrington New Town (Correspondence)

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he proposes to reply to the letters posted to him on 23rd November, 1968, by various residents in Appleton, Grappenhall and Thelwall objecting to his proposal to include this area in the designated area of the Warrington New Town.

    House Of Commons

    Members' Dining Room (Lunches And Dinners)

    asked the Lord President of the Council how many lunches and dinners, respectively, have been served in the Members' Dining Room during each Parliamentary Session since October, 1964 to the latest convenient date; and if he will provide the same information broken down to a monthly basis for the two years commencing October, 1966.

    I have been asked to reply.Until November, 1967 I am afraid that no separate monthly figures for lunches or dinners are available. The combined totals for lunches and dinners served in the Members' Dining Room for Sessions since 1964–65 are as follows:

    1964–6531,314
    1965–6627,517
    1966–6724,885
    1967–6821,878
    The combined monthly totals for lunches and dinners served between October, 1966 and October, 1967 are as follows:

    October, 19662,177
    November3,731
    December1,627
    January, 19671,697
    February3,573
    March1,809
    April2,691
    May1,546
    June3,454
    July2,580
    August
    September
    October913

    The separate monthly figures for lunches and dinners served since November, 1967 are as follows:

    Lunches

    Dinners

    November, 19671,2081,438
    December, 1967842994
    January, 1968819919
    February, 19681,2381,595
    March, 19681,2581,414
    April, 19687981,037
    May, 19681,2311,770
    June, 19687431,325
    July, 19689161,420
    August, 1968
    September, 1968
    October, 19685031,365
    November, 19689691,262
    December, 1968703971

    Gas

    North Sea Bed (Subsidence)

    asked the Minister of Power what estimate he has made of the geological implications of extracting gas from under the bed of the North Sea.

    I assume the hon. Member has in mind the possibility of subsidence of the sea bed after the gas has been extracted. Although subsidence is known to occur in certain parts of the world as a result of the extraction of hydrocarbons this is rare and is linked with production from geologically young and poorly consolidated formations.The gas discoveries to date in the North Sea come from old and consolidated strata and subsidence following extraction can be discounted.

    Public Building And Works

    Royal Naval Air Station, Lossiemouth

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what has been the total cost of construction work at the Royal Naval Air Station, Lossiemouth, since 1960 and since 1964.

    The total cost of construction work at the Royal Naval Air Station, Lossiemouth, from 1st April, 1960, to 31st March, 1964, was £1·3 million. Expenditure from 1st April, 1964, to date is £2 million.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what were the costs and dates of completion, respectively, of the new wardroom and petty officers' and ratings' messes at the Royal Naval Air Station, Lossiemouth.

    The new wardroom at the Royal Naval Air Station, Lossiemouth, was completed in June, 1965, at a cost of £455,000, the chief petty officers' and petty officers' mess in July, 1967, at a cost of £550,000 and the junior ratings' messing and recreational accommodation in September, 1962, at a cost of £390,000. The junior ratings' sleeping accommodation was provided in two stages: the first was completed in May, 1963, at a cost of £245,000 and the second, including also W.R.N.S. accommodation, in April, 1967, at a cost of £390,000.

    Wales

    Cardiff (Improvement Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will state the annual sums of money spent on improvement grants in the County Borough of Cardiff in 1960–68.

    The annual sums spent on improvement grants in the County Borough of Cardiff from 1960 to1968 are as follows:

    £
    196019,363
    196110,006
    196220,318
    196318,902
    196420,758
    196526,423
    196635,182
    196721,018
    196820,253