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Volume 783: debated on Wednesday 7 May 1969

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 7th May, 1969

Ministry Of Defence

Service Personnel, Buildings And Properties (Midlothian)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many members of Her Majesty's Forces are stationed in the county of Midlothian; and what is the number of officers and other ranks.

The number of Service personnel stationed in the county of Midlothian, including the city of Edinburgh, is 230 officers and 2,100 other ranks.

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the buildings and properties used by the Armed Forces in the county of Midlothian; and for what continuous periods they are used in the year.

The following is the list:BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES USED BY THE ARMED FORCES IN THE COUNTY OF MIDLOTHIAN (INCLUDING CITY OF EDINBURGH).A. REGULAR FORCES

In Continuous Use

  • Army H.Q., Edinburgh Castle.
  • Redford Infantry Barracks.
  • Glencorse Barracks.
  • Army Camp, Kirknewton.
  • Army Ranges and training area, Castlelaw/Dreghorn.
  • Army Hospital, Edinburgh (Strathearn Road).
  • Army Instructional Unit, Edinburgh (16 Royal Terrace).
  • Army Officers' Mess, Inchdrewer House, Redford.
  • Royal Air Force Station, Turnhouse.
  • Careers Information Offices:
  • R.N., R.M., W.R.N.S.—59 George Street, Edinburgh.
  • Army—73 Hanover Street and 29 Rutland Square, Edinburgh.
  • R.A.F.—21 Hanover Street, Edinburgh.
  • Army G.O.C.'s Residence, Gogar Bank House, Edinburgh.
  • Some 900 married quarters in the Edinburgh area.

Not in Continuous Use

  • Army Camp at Milton Bridge (Continuous use May-September; weekend use October-April).

Temporarily Vacant

  • Redford Cavalry Barracks.
  • About 260 married quarters in the Edinburgh area.

Under Review

  • Dreghorn Barracks.

B. NON-REGULAR FORCES

In Continuous Use (by permanent staff)

  • R.N. Reserve (Forth Division) Granton Square, Edinburgh.
  • T.A.V.R. properties:
  • Lanark Road, Edinburgh.
  • Chesser Avenue, Edinburgh.
  • 89 East Claremont Street, Edinburgh.
  • West Annandale Street, Edinburgh.
  • 31–37 Gilmore Place, Edinburgh.
  • 124 McDonald Road, Edinburgh.
  • 6 Great King Street, Edinburgh.
  • Alnwick Hill, Liberton, Edinburgh.
  • 30–36 Dalmeny Street, Leith.
  • Royal Observer Corps post at Carlton Terrace, Edinburgh (Scottish Area H.Q.).
  • Royal Observer Corps post at R.A.F. Turnhouse (24 Group H.Q.).

Not in Continuous Use

  • No. 297 A.T.C. Unit, Goose Green Place, Musselburgh (Used Wednesday and Friday evenings and occasional Sunday mornings).
  • Underground Royal Observer Corps posts at:
  • Penicuik, Dalkeith, Turnhouse, West Calder—Used for exercises.
  • Underground Royal Observer posts at:
  • Balerno, Portobello, Gorebridge, Stow—Expected to be disposed of in the near future.

Unidentified Flying Objects

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what details have been given to his Department of the report made by the two police officers at Spelsbury, Oxfordshire, of unidentified flying objects on or about 25th October, 1967; what study he has made of these reports; and what action he has taken.

Sufficient information was available for an examination by Ministry of Defence staff to establish that the report had no implications for the air defence of the United Kingdom. Therefore no further action was taken.

Multi-Rôle Combat Aircraft

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on co-operation with the Germans, Dutch and Italians in the building of a multi-rôle combat aircraft.

Co-operation with the Germans, Dutch and Italian Governments on this project has been very satisfactory. The feasibility studies have now been concluded, and the results are being considered. As the House will know, I met the Ministers of Defence of the other participating countries in Bonn on 29th April to review the progress of the project. I hope to be in a position to make a full statement shortly.

Service Pensions (Commutation)

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has concluded his review of the rules governing the commutation of Service pensions; and whether he will make a statement.

The following changes will apply to the commutation of Service pensions for those who are discharged on or after the 31st March.

  • (a) Subject to medical fitness and to application within six months of discharge, commutation of 25 per cent. of the annual pension (i.e. excluding the terminal grant) or £1,000 whichever is the less (as against £600 at present) will be allowed as an initial amount without investigation of the purpose for which the money is required.
  • (b) The minimum pension to be retained by a Serviceman will be 50s. a week but this minimum (and the 25 per cent. of pension rule) may be varied to ensure that a Serviceman may continue to commute up to the limit of £600 that he has a right to commute under the present rules.
  • (c) The present rules of detailed investigation will continue to apply for any subsequent or greater commutation but applications for such further commutation for the purpose of house purchase, furniture or a car from men who have had the £600 to £1,000 will not be automatically barred as at present.
  • (d) The minimum retired pay which an officer must retain after commutation will be increased from the present £150 per annum to £300 per annum. Officers will continue to be limited to the commutation of 50 per cent. of their pension.
  • (e) Warrant Officers will continue to be awarded commutation under the same rules as Servicemen. The new rules operate less restrictively for Warrant Officers than would the general application of the rules for officers.
  • United Nations Peacekeeping Force (Aircraft)

    50.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what types of aircraft are earmarked to provide the logistic support for the United Nations peacekeeping operation which Her Majesty's Government have undertaken to give on call from the United Nations.

    No particular types of aircraft are earmarked in advance of a specific request for assistance from the United Nations for logistic support. We at present provide a helicopter support unit as part of our contribution to the United Nations Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP).

    Brigade Of Guards (Height Standard)

    52.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he will lay down metric standards of height for recruitment to the Brigade of Guards.

    I have no idea. At present the heigh standard is 5 ft. 8 ins. or about 173 centimetres.

    "Daily Mail" Air Race

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will estimate the cost to the Armed Services of participation in the transatlantic race organised by the Daily Mail.

    The extra cost to Defence Votes of Service participation in the Air Race are estimated to amount to £11,500.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many service aircraft of all types have been authorised to compete in the Daily Mail Transatlantic Air-Race.

    Twelve Service aircraft have been authorised to compete in the Atlantic crossing, of which three are held in reserve. A further 11, including one reserve, have been authorised for the short terminal and departure sections.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what he estimates to be the total cost to public funds of Service participation in the Daily Mail Transatlantic Air-Race.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer I gave today to my hon. Friend the Member for Lancaster (Mr. Henig).

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence under what Vote Service expenditure on the Daily Mail Transatlantic Air-Race has been authorised.

    The extra costs arising from Service participation in the Air Race are mainly in respect of overseas allowances and food and accommodation for detached personnel. Disbursements under these headings were authorised from the appropriate Service Votes.

    Royal Naval College, Greenwich

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he will make a statement on the future of the Royal Naval College, Greenwich.

    I am aware of the concern of some hon. Members about the future of the R.N. College at Greenwich, but I am sorry that I can only say at present that the long term future of the College remains under review, and I cannot forecast when this review will be completed.

    Helicopters (French Guided Missile)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence why he is buying the SS11 missile from France for use in Army helicopters in the anti-tank rôle instead of developing the British Swingfire.

    I have nothing to add to the Answer I have given today to a Question from the hon. Member for Mid-Bedfordshire (Mr. Stephen Hastings).

    United States Aircraft (Purchases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the total sum now owing to the United States Government for aircraft, including spares and equipment purchased since October 1964; over what period this sum is repayable; and on what terms.

    The sum still outstanding on amounts borrowed up to 30th April, 1969, is £237 million. Each amount drawn under the credit agreements is repayable in fourteen equal half-yearly instalments. Interest is payable every six months on the amount outstanding. The rate of interest applicable to the sum outstanding on 30th April, 1969, is 4¾ per cent.

    Medals (Applications)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) how many applicants have been supplied with medals in the last complete year; and if he will give the numbers for all earlier years for which the information is available;(2) approximately how many applications for medals per day are being received at the present time.

    (1) About 80,700 for all three Services in 1968; information for earlier years is not available.(2) About 180 by all three Services.

    S G Brown Limited (Sale)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what were the conditions, in respect of maintaining the Watford factory and the continuity of employment therein, under which S. G. Brown Limited was sold by Her Majesty's Government in 1959.

    Following the decision announced in the House of Commons on 8th June, 1959, to dispose of S. G. Brown Ltd., the Admiralty received offers from a number of interested companies.It was eventually decided that the offer made by the de Havilland Holdings Ltd., a member of the Hawker Siddeley Group, most satisfactorily met the considerations which it had been stated in the House would guide the Admiralty in disposing of S. G. Brown Ltd. These considerations were:

  • (a) that the business should be kept as a going concern under efficient management;
  • (b) that the purchaser should give satisfactory assurances about his ability to provide continuity of employment for the present employees, and his intention to develop to the full the facilities available;
  • (c) that the purchaser should not be under foreign control;
  • (d) that the sale should not enable the purchaser to establish a monopoly in any particular field;
  • (e) that the sale should not prejudice existing licensing arrangements between S. G. Brown Ltd. and American interests.
  • These were not binding conditions of sale, however, and it was recognised that it was impossible for any company taking over any other to give an unqualified guarantee of employment to individual workers or groups of workers.

    Northern And Western Commands

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will now make a statement regarding the future of Northern and Western Commands.

    I have nothing to add to the Answer I gave to the hon. Member on 25th March this year.

    Air Display, Abingdon

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is aware that as a result of a flying display at Abingdon on 1st May residents at Whitecross, Wootton, suffered distress and damage to property; whether the display was in accordance with flying regulations; what steps he is taking to prevent a recurrence; and if he will make a statement.

    This incident and its unfortunate consequences occurred in the course of a special display at the Royal

    Rank
    Nature of EmploymentWarrant Officers and Staff SergeantsSergeantsCorporalsLance CorporalsPrivatesTotal
    Clerical58109247202208824
    Communications23247288238445
    Technical103998143527817
    Courier and Postal162232102163
    Miscellaneous1011611521834391,036
    TOTALS1933395916481,5143,285
    Note: These figures do not include trainees or those between postings.
    36 officers and 98 women carry out staff duties at home and 16 officers and 246 women are on staff duties abroad; 36 officers and 85 women are employed on training duties at the W.R.A.C. training establishments at Guildford and Camberley and at other Arms training establishments at home; 152 officers and 2,166 women are employed with Army units on other duties at home and 36 officers and 690 women overseas.

    Royal Navy (Ships)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many ships of the Royal Navy are now opera-

    Air Force Station Abingdon during a visit by Lieutenant-General Mohr, Commander-in-Chief of the Royal Norwegian Air Force. An enquiry is being held into all the circumstances. When this has been completed I shall write to the hon. Member.

    Gurkhas

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, in view of the present shortfall in United Kingdom Service recruits, he will now halt the rundown of the Gurkhas.

    Women's Royal Army Corps

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the employment by rank of the Women's Royal Army Corps; how many are carrying out staff duties at home and abroad; how many are carrying out training duties and where; and how many are attached to British Army units at home and abroad for office and other duties.

    The details are as follows:tional, preparing for service or engaged in trials and training; and what he estimates the corresponding figure will be in 1971.

    There are 204 ships in the Royal Navy excluding survey vessels and depot and supply ships. Of these 144 are now operational, preparing for service or engaged in trials or training. It is not the practice to disclose future plans for the strength of the Fleet.

    Nato (French Forces)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence to what extent French forces in Germany now co-operate with other forces of the North Atlantic Alliance; and what collaboration exists between French and North Atlantic Treaty Organisation naval units in the Mediterranean and elsewhere.

    Some such co-operation occurs both in Germany and among naval units in the Mediterranean and elsewhere, and in particular French forces have taken part in certain exercises with other forces of the North Atlantic Alliance.

    Rhodesia (Beira Patrol)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are his future plans for the Rhodesian sanctions' naval and air patrols in view of the reduction of British forces outside the European theatre.

    South Africa

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence, in view of the increased responsibility for the security of the sea route round the Cane of Good Hope given by Her Majesty's Government to the South African Navy, to what extent he has consulted the South African authorities on ways in which the United Kingdom should assist in plans to strengthen their sea defences.

    The arrangements for liaison with the South African Navy, following the withdrawal of the Commander-in-Chief, South Atlantic, were explained to the House by the then Under Secretary of State for the Royal Navy on 8th February, 1967. I have nothing to add to his statement.—[Vol. 740, c. 1618.]

    Rum Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what daily allowance is paid to naval ratings who do not draw their tot of rum; and how this allowance compares with the present retail price of ⅛th pint of rum bought in a public house ashore.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Sugar (Bulk Supply Contracts)

    54.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that public bodies, such as hospital buying groups, are not able to negotiate bulk supply contracts for imported sugar due to frequent fluctuations in market prices; and if he will take steps to remedy the situation.

    Public bodies can negotiate bulk supply contracts for sugar on the basis of the daily ex-refinery price, which is kept within an agreed range by the operation of our sugar surcharge system. I am writing to my hon. Friend in more detail.

    National Farmers' Union (Devon County Branch)

    55.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representation he has had from the Chairman of the Devon Farmers' Union; what was the main point raised in this representation; and what reply he has given.

    The Chairman of the Devon County Branch of the National Farmers' Union invited me to Devon to speak about the outcome of this year's Annual Review. I had hoped to go on 31st March but this date was chosen for the Supply Day debate on agriculture. I had a prior commitment for a later date which was suggested.

    Annual Price Reviews (Metrication)

    56.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when annual price reviews will be expressed in metric terms.

    This depends on the progress of the general programme for metrication in the agricultural sector.

    Fishmeal

    57.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether it is his policy to continue the levy on herring and white fish used in the production of fishmeal, at the same rate as that levied on fish used for the fresh market.

    Any change in the present arrangements is initially a matter for the White Fish Authority and Herring Industry Board. Ministers would need to look at any proposals and any objections to them in a quasi-judicial capacity. It would therefore be inappropriate for me to comment.

    Foot-And-Mouth Epidemic (Compensation)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now make a statement on supplementary compensation to be paid to those farmers who were early victims of the foot-and-mouth epidemic.

    Information that I have received from a number of sources, including the President of the National Farmers' Union, has confirmed that the contribution of £150,000 was in response to a special appeal to farmers who had suffered loss from foot-and-mouth disease between 25th October and 19th November, 1967—that is, during the first four weeks of the outbreak. This appeal was organised on the basis that each affected farmer contributing £1 would in effect get it back with an additional £1 from the Government. For the Government to match such a contribution would turn the Government's contribution into a direct grant. This would not be in accordance with the concept of a £1 for £1 Scheme, and the National Farmers' Union has been so informed.Nevertheless, the Government have decided to make an

    ex gratin payment of £50,000 in addition to the contribution which they are making to match the total of just under £100,000 collected through the National Farmers' Union Appeal Fund. Part of this contribution has already been paid and the balance will now be made available along with the extra £50,000. In effect, therefore, the Government are contributing £1 10s. for each £1 collected by the National Farmers' Union. This is of course in addition to the Government's payment to farmers of £26·5 million compensation for all animals slaughtered during the epidemic, which fulfilled the Government's statutory obligations

    Technology

    Shipbuilding And Ship-Repairing Industry (Aberdeen)

    58.

    asked the Minister of Technology what financial assistance is available from public funds for the shipbuilding and ship-repairing industry in Aberdeen; and how much of it was credited and paid for that purpose during each of the last 10 years.

    Assistance for shipbuilding reorganisation is available under the Shipbuilding Industry Act, 1967, but there is no specific statutory provision for assistance to the ship-repairing industry. I understand that Aberdeen shipbuilders have not applied for reorganisation loans and grants from the Shipbuilding Industry Board but one of the companies is building ships whose financing has been arranged under guarantees given by my right hon. Friend under the Shipbuilding Industry Act. My right hon. Friend has also provided a grant under the Local Employment Acts for the construction of a pontoon dock at Aberdeen which is used by local ship repairers.

    Upper Clyde Shipbuilders

    59.

    asked the Minister of Technology if he will make a statement on the financial position of the shipbuilding group in Upper Clydeside.

    I have nothing to add to the statement my right hon. Friend made yesterday.

    S G Brown Ltd, Watford

    60.

    asked the Minister of Technology to what extent the conditions set out in the letter from the Admiralty to J. R. Whyman, Esquire, of Watford, dated 15th July, 1959, concerning the sale of S. G. Brown by the Government to private enterprise, have been met; and if he will make a statement.

    61.

    asked the Minister of Technology what action he is taking about the threatened closure of the factory of S. G. Brown Limited at Watford in contravention of assurances given by the Admiralty when they sold it in 1959.

    The considerations set out in the letter of 15th July, 1959, were guide lines used by the Admiralty in assessing offers to purchase S. G. Brown Limited. The business has continued in being since its sale in 1960 and is a wholly-owned subsidiary company of Hawker Siddeley Dynamics Limited. The parent company has recently announced that some production work must be reorganised by transferring to Bolton certain work from one of S. G. Brown Limited's three factories. I am discussing the implication of this with the management of Hawker Siddeley Dynamics.

    Scotland

    Agriculture And Forestry (Fuel Duty Costs)

    62.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are his estimates of the additional costs to agriculture and forestry in Scotland resulting from the proposed increase in fuel duty.

    The estimated direct cost is about £100,000 for agriculture and £10,000 for forestry in a full year, which represents about one-twentieth of 1 per cent. of total costs in each industry.

    Roads (Expenditure)

    63.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much money he proposes to spend on construction and improvement of roads in the current financial year; and how this sum compares with the equivalent allocation for each of the last five years.

    Central Government expenditure on Scottish roads is expected to be £33·8 million in the current financial year. In 1964–65 it was £17 million; in 1965–66 £21·3 million; in 1966–67 £24·7 million; in 1967–68 £30 million and in 1968–69, provisionally, £31·3 million.

    Glasgow Fire (Fatal Accident Inquiry)

    64.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made in applying the recommendations of the jury in the fatal accident inquiry following the James Watt Street fire disaster in Glasgow.

    My right hon. Friend the First Secretary of State hopes to make a statement on this matter within the next few days.

    Glasgow (Municipal Transport)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what discussions he he has had with the Scottish Transport Group on matters affecting the future of Glasgow's municipal transport; and if he will make a statement.

    My hon. Friend, the Minister of State has met the Chairman and Managing Director of the Scottish Transport Group to hear their views about a possible Passenger Transport Authority in the Glasgow area.

    Motorists (Drink And Drugs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many persons were convicted for driving under the influence of drink in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and what were the comparable figures in each of the previous four years.

    The numbers of convictions for driving a motor vehicle when unfit to drive through drink or drugs for each year since 1964, together with the numbers of convictions for the offence of driving a motor vehicle when the proportion of alcohol in the blood exceeds the prescribed limit, which was introduced in October, 1967, are set out in the table below.

    NUMBER OF PERSONS CONVICTED OR FOUND GUILTY IN SCOTLAND FOR DRIVING A MOTOR VEHICLE WHEN UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF DRINK
    YearDriving a motor vehicle when unfit to drive through drink or drugsDriving a motor vehicle when the proportion of alcohol in the blood exceeds the prescribed limitTotal
    19643,256Not applicable3,256
    19653,745Not applicable3,745
    19664,515Not applicable4,515
    19674,7721574,929
    19681,788*3,770*5,558*
    * Provisional figure.

    Aberdeen Common Good Fund

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give details of the amounts of the Aberdeen Common Good Fund for each of the last five years; and how those sums were disbursed in each of these years.

    I am asking Aberdeen Corporation to send this information to the hon. and learned Member.

    Education (Finance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the Government allocations for university and other education in Scotland and indicate the amounts, and manner in which and to whom they were disbursed during each of the last five years.

    I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to the financial tables (Tables 53 to 55) in "Scottish Educational Statistics 1967". "Scottish Educational Statistics 1968" will, when it is published next month, give figures for 1967–68. If, thereafter, there are any specific points on which he would like to have further information, perhaps he would get in touch with me.

    Board Of Trade

    Industrial Development (Wales)

    65.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the increased numbers of applications received by the Welsh Office of his Department from firms which have applied to establish industries in development areas in Wales thus causing delays in receiving attention from the Board of Trade Advisory Committee, he will establish a Welsh Board of Trade Advisory Committee to expedite these applications and eliminate the delays.

    No. In spite of the increased numbers the time taken by the Advisory Committee to deal with applications has been considerably reduced in the past year.

    Industrial Development (Scotland)

    66.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade, how many firm inquiries he has received from private industry in the last two months in regard to developing in Scotland; and how this compares with the same period last year.

    Fifty-four inquiries about developing in Scotland were received from private industry in March and April, 1969, compared with 74 in the same period last year. It is too early to say how many of the recent inquiries will result in a decision to locate in Scotland.

    Bulgaria

    67.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that the United Kingdom price for a cold rolling steel mill to be built in Bulgaria was £18¾ million against £14½ million from France, and £2·8 million for a cable factory against £1·8 million from Italy; and if he will investigate why Great Britain has lost recently £20 million orders from Bulgaria and take steps to remedy this situation.

    While I regret the loss of these orders, both firms are successful exporters and, I am informed, quoted the lowest prices possible consistent with their assessment of the degree of commercial risk involved and the maintenance of the quality of the equipment specified.

    Grimsby Trawler Owners (Representations)

    68.

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what answer he has sent to the Grimsby trawler owners' representations regarding the export levy refund in the White Fish Authority's accounts and their representations about the rôle of the White Fish Authority in promoting fish exports.

    I am consulting with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, and will reply to the Grimsby trawler owners as soon as possible.

    Contracts (Report)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade when he expects to receive the First Report of the Law Commission on exclusion clauses in contracts; and if he will make a statement.

    We hope to receive the First Report within the next few weeks.

    Industrial Development Certificates

    asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will publish a table showing the number of industrial development certificates for an area of less than 10,000 sq. ft. granted, and the number of jobs expected as a result, in the development areas of each region in each of the last five years; and what proportion these represented of the number, area and employment expected to result from industrial development certificates approved in the development areas of each region in each year;(2) if he will publish a table showing the number of industrial development cer-

    PROJECTS COMPLETED, FOR MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES, FOR WHICH I.D.C.s WERE ISSUED, OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND LESS, TOGETHER WITH PERCENTAGES OF THE TOTAL COMPLETED IN EACH REGION IN THE YEARS 1963 TO 1967 TOGETHER WITH ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT
    19631964196519661967
    Country or RegionPercentage of totalPercentage of totalPercentage of totalPercentage of totalPercentage of total
    NORTHERN
    Number27404745563953364735
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)18412370144061038993429
    E.A.E. Total880171,670201,640121,930131,33012
    YORKSHIRE AND HUMBERSIDE
    Number57457852924898529649
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)4181153614638206462064716
    E.A.E. Total710191,290221,350311,200291,32028
    EAST MIDLAND
    Number44505454595649416848
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)3142036324395193591549219
    E.A.E. Total6003279040800316002566026
    EAST ANGLIA
    Number15382841375432463244
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)101918912259242301623317
    E.A.E. Total110744010900296302385028
    SOUTH EAST
    Number1574218347182501725315549
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)1,107121,267161,222161,248231,12321
    E.A.E. Total2,450192,430192,410142,580251,76021
    SOUTH WEST
    Number27453341353839394946
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)1911722514248112631332318
    E.A.E. Total4601638018770159102391026
    WALES
    Number26403146223437435749
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)181721719163122731441420
    E.A.E. Total640766017580211,210211,20020
    WEST MIDLAND
    Number7544824612756121499052
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)4651253516820208222063323
    E.A.E. Total74018680211,170339503083023
    NORTH WESTERN
    Number6345984710653904212352
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)45386451573310526965916
    E.A.E. Total73061,900241,870101,190101,12012
    SCOTLAND
    Number31345236513165354525
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)223639210376946673316
    E.A.E. Total66071,450131,330101,60081,1407
    Note: Employment is as estimated by applicants for certificates and relates to when the projects are fully manned.

    for an area of less than 10,000 sq. ft. granted, and the number of jobs expected to arise from them, for each region in each of the last five years; and what proportion these represented of the total number, area and employment expected to result from industrial development certificates approved in each region for each of these years.

    Figures based on I.D.C. approvals, analysed in the way requested are not readily available. Statistics based on projects completed, for manufacturing industries, for which I.D.C.s were issued for the years 1963–67—the latest year for which figures are available—are shown in the tables below:

    PROJECTS COMPLETED, FOR MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES, FOR WHICH I.D.C.S WERE ISSUED, OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND LESS, TOGETHER WITH PERCENTAGES OF THE TOTAL COMPLETED IN THE SOUTH-WEST, MERSEYSIDE AND WELSH DEVELOPMENT AREAS IN THE YEARS 1963 TO 1967, TOGETHER WITH ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL EMPLOYMENT (E.A.E.)

    1963

    1964

    1965

    1966

    1967

    Development Areas

    Percentage of total

    Percentage of total

    Percentage of total

    Percentage of total

    Percentage of total

    SOUTH WESTERN
    Number120222638737844
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)98128501751195421
    E.A.E. Total6010305190243503932036
    MERSEYSIDE
    Number8351830325228443951
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)592114621951801020711
    E.A.E. Total1101450138307490939010
    WELSH
    Number17401544194530514450
    Area (thous. sq. ft.)121811317142182271933221
    E.A.E. Total570946017560241,1102472014

    Note: Figures for Northern and Scottish Development Areas are not given separately as they approximate closely to the figures for the Northern Region and for Scotland as shown below.

    Brewing Industry (Metrication)

    asked the President of the Board of Trade what discussions he has had with the brewing industry and licensed victuallers to establish acceptable metric equivalents to the pint, half-pint and quart; and if he will make a statement.

    None. I understand, however, that there have been some exploratory international discussions about new metric sizes for bottles, and that the British Standards Institute has invited the Brewers Society to comment on these proposals insofar as they relate to beer bottles.

    House Of Commons

    Western European Union (Delegates' Allowances)

    71.

    asked the Lord President of the Council what steps he has taken to implement the recommendations which have been made by the Services Committee following the report of the Secretariat of the Western European Union on the comparative allowances paid to British and other delegations attending the assembly and committees of that organisation.

    72.

    asked the Lord President of the Council, if he will give effect to the recommendations of the Budget Committee of the Western European Union that the allowances of British delegates be brought up to the mean level of allowances of other national delegations.

    I am consulting with my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer about this matter. I am aware of the concern of hon. Members.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Anguilla

    69.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he is now satisfied that Her Majesty's Government can discharge their responsibility for the defence of Anguilla; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. I have nothing to add to what my right hon. Friend said in the House on 19th March.—[Vol. 780, c. 497.]

    Public Building And Works

    House Building Costs (Selective Employment Tax)

    70.

    asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what estimate he has made of the effects of the proposed increase in selective employment tax on the costs of housing in Scotland.

    Local Government

    Ordnance Survey Maps

    73.

    asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what scale has been chosen by the Ordnance Survey to replace their inch-mile maps of the United Kingdom; when such maps will begin to be available to the public; and what increase in the retail price he estimates the change will cause.

    No decision has been taken on the metrication of the Ordnance Survey 1-inch maps. The problem is under active study and I hope it will be possible to begin consultations at the end of the year.

    Social Services

    Pensions

    74 and 75.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what proportion of the pension paid to a single employed man and a married employed man, shown separately, retiring today, in cases where regular contributions have been made for 10 years, is covered by the employer's contribution, the employee's contribution and general taxation, respectively;(2) what proportion of the pension paid to a self-employed single man and a self-employed married man, shown separately, retiring today, in cases where regular contributions have been made for 10 years, is covered by the recipient's contribution and by general taxation respectively.

    Retirement pension is paid from the National Insurance Fund which is financed on a pay-as-you-go principle. The Exchequer supplement provides about 15 per cent. of the income.A man who has contributed for the last 10 years would have a pension scaled down in proportion to the period of contributions since 1948. On an actuarial calculation, assuming 5 per cent. interest and that graduated contributions were paid at the maximum rate, the proportion of his pension covered by his and his employer's contributions would be 30 per cent. and 31 per cent. respectively for a single man and 15 per cent. and 15 per cent. for a married man whose wife is five years younger than himself.For a self-employed man in corresponding circumstances 30 per cent. of his pension would be covered by contributions if single and 14 per cent. if married.

    Council Of Europe (Delegation)

    asked the Prime Minister if he will announce the composition of the United Kingdom delegation to the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe.

    Yes. The Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe will be meeting in Strasbourg on 12th May. I have appointed 18 delegates from the Parliament of the United Kingdom. The delegation this year will consist of 10 members of the Labour Party, seven members of the Conservative Party and one member of the Liberal Party. I have also appointed a number of substitute delegates.The appointments of Conservative and Liberal representatives and substitutes have been made on the basis of nominations by the leaders of those parties. The same delegation will be representing the United Kingdom Parliament at the Assembly of the Western European Union.Representatives from the Government benches will be:The hon. and learned Member for Dulwich (Mr. S. C. Silkin), who will act as Leader.The right hon. Member for Kettering (Sir Geoffrey de Freitas).The hon. Members for

    Bilston (Mr. Robert Edwards), Birmingham, Northfield (Mr. Donald Chapman), Glasgow, Shettleston (Sir Myer Galpern), Halifax (Dr. Shirley Summerskill), Horn-church (Mr. A. L. Williams), Newcastle, E. (Mr. Geoffrey Rhodes), Wigan (Mr. Alan Fitch).

    and the right hon. The Earl of Listowel.

    Representatives from the Conservative Party will be:

    The right hon. Members for

    Northumberland, Hexham (Mr. Geoffrey Rippon), Streatham (Mr. Duncan Sandys).

    The hon. Members for

    Dorset, W. (Mr. Simon Wingfield Digby), Leicester, S.E. (Mr. W. J. Peel), Plymouth, Devonport (Dame Joan Vickers), Saffron Walden (Mr. Peter Kirk),

    and The Lord St. Helens.

    The representative from the Liberal Party will be:

    The Lord Gladwyn.

    The following substitutes have been appointed to act as necessary on behalf of the delegates:

    From the Government benches:

    The hon. Members for

    Caithness and Sutherland (Mr. Robert Maclennan), Coventry, N. (Mr. Maurice Edelman), Holborn and St. Pancras, S. (Mrs. Lena Jeger), Kingston-upon-Hull (Mr. James Johnson), Lancashire, Middleton and Prestwich (Mr. Denis W. Coe), Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Eric Heffer), Luton (Mr. Will Howie), Manchester, Blackley (Mr. Paul B. Rose), Neath (Mr. D. Coleman), South Shields (Mr. A. Blenkinsop).

    From the Conservative Party:

    The hon. Members for

    Bury St. Edmunds (Mr. Eldon Griffiths), Chelmsford (Mr. Norman St. John-Stevas), Chelsea (Mr. Marcus Worsley), Fermanagh and S. Tyrone (The

    Men

    Women

    Date

    Average weekly earnings

    Average hourly earnings

    Average weekly earnings

    Average hourly earnings

    £s.d.s.d.£s.d.S.d.
    October, 1967217693·01011256·3
    April, 1968225397·610181058·4
    October, 1968*221911910·911511510·8

    * The latest date for which figures are available.

    Hull Docks (Unofficial Strikes)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what action she is taking to prevent further unofficial strikes in the Hull Docks, in view of the need to maintain exports of fish to Russia.

    The Government's proposals for dealing with unofficial strikes in general are set out in the White Paper "In Place of Strife". In the docks in particular, it is fully expected that the implementation of the second stage of the Devlin modernisation programme, negotiations on which are currently taking place, will bring about a considerable and lasting improvement in labour relations in the industry.

    National Finance

    Disposable Income

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what is the disposable income, net of income tax, at the rates

    Marquess of Hamilton), Portsmouth, Langstone (Mr. Ian Lloyd), Sevenoaks (Sir John Rodgers), Solihull (Mr. W. P. Grieve).

    From the Liberal Party:

    The Lord Norwich.

    Employment And Productivity

    Earnings

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what, at the last convenient date, were the average weekly and hourly earnings for men and women, respectively, in industry; and what were the figures for the previous comparable period.

    The following information is derived from the half-yearly inquiries into the earnings and hours of manual workers:proposed in the Budget, on earnings of £500, £750, £1,000, £1,250, £2,000, £4,000 and £10,000 a year for a single man, a married man without children and a married man with one, two, three or four children, respectively; what is the net disposable income in the same cases taking family allowances into account; and what are the comparable figures for 1964;(2) what is the net disposable income at the rates proposed in the Budget on earnings of £500, £750, £1,000, £1,250, £2,000, £4,000 and £10,000 a year for a single man, a married man without children and a married man with one, two, three or four children, respectively, taking into account family allowances, social security contributions and an estimated average for indirect taxes and rates; and what are the comparable figures for 1964.

    1964–65

    1969–70

    Disposable income

    Disposable income

    Earnings £ p.a.

    Net of tax

    Net of tax, SS contributions indirect taxes and rates

    Net of tax

    Net of tax, SS contributions indirect taxes and rates

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    Single man

    5004591883540045916829300
    750646485050064316342300
    1,0008201796180081312149400
    1,2509951097700098371162600
    2,0001,5199111,296001,4921551,13800
    4,0002,916145··2,85121··
    10,0005,92160··5,71513··

    Married man without children

    5004901253440049516826100
    7506871205150068710041500
    1,00086779654008632152700
    1,2501,04209817001,032171167500
    2,0001,56519111,289001,542551,09700
    4,0002,963452,323002,9001211,85400
    10,0006,006160··5,803113··

    Married man with 1 child under 11

    50050000··50000··
    75072220545007220044100
    1,00091119070400910101058300
    1,2501,086120853001,0806870900
    2,0001,6101121,319001,5891421,12100
    4,0003,007158··2,948010··
    10,0006,088149··5,88876··

    1964–65

    Disposable income

    Earnings £ p.a.

    Net of tax ignoring FAM

    Net of tax with FAM

    Net of tax, SS contributions, indirect taxes and rates ignoring FAM

    Net of tax, SS contributions, indirect taxes and rates with FAM

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    Married man with 2 children under 11

    50050000520160····
    7507471487655115700058800
    1,00094854964437330074900
    1,2501,131331,14513118960091000
    2,0001,655251,6691311,369001,38300
    4,0003,0526113,066311····
    10,0006,1701366,176131····

    Married man with 3 children under 11

    50050000546160····
    750750007961605460059200
    1,00098116111,01812117650080100
    1,2501,174881,208859310096500
    2,0001,6991381,732771,396001,42900
    4,0003,0961823,127161····
    10,0006,2501536,26614····

    Married man with 4 children under 11

    50050000572160····
    75075000822160····
    1,0001,000001,066657790084500
    1,2501,2081881,2641411968001,02300
    2,0001,7444111,795211,390001,44100
    4,0003,141953,18982····
    10,0006,3261906,351105····

    1969–70

    Disposable income

    Earnings £ p.a.

    Net of tax ignoring FAM

    Net of tax with FAM

    Net of tax, SS contributions, indirect taxes and rates ignoring FAM

    Net of tax, SS contributions, indirect taxes and rates with FAM

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    £

    s.

    d.

    Married man with 2 children under 11

    50050000546160····
    750750007791574690049900
    1,000948349718116090063200
    1,2501,1271551,142477550076900
    2,0001,6372111,6511211,177001,19200
    4,0002,995973,00806····
    10,0005,973395,968211····

    Married man with 3 children under 11

    50050000598160····
    7507500084110114240051600
    1,0009821341,033436410069100
    1,2501,174681,2071327870082000
    2,0001,6841181,717081,196001,22800
    4,0003,0421843,07115····
    10,0006,057506,04958····

    Married man with 4 children under 11

    50050000650160····
    75075000900160····
    1,0001,000001,0941976500074500
    1,2501,2081681,273198250088900
    2,0001,732051,782931,159001,21000
    4,0003,090713,13424····
    10,0006,136636,13085····

    Notes:

    (1) All rates and allowances relate to 1964–65 or 1969–70.
    (2) The details given under the heads "Disposable income …" ignoring family allowances take no account of the tax on family allowances nor of the effect for 1969–70 on the tax of the reduction in personal allowances of £42 for each child ranking for family allowances.
    (3) National Insurance contributions taken into account are those for an employed man not contracted out of the graduated pension scheme.
    (4) The amounts taken into account for indirect taxes and rates are derived from the Family Expenditure Survey and are therefore subject to sampling errors, particularly in income groups represented by small numbers of cases. For this reason no figures are shown for some income levels, and the figures shown are given only to the nearest £.

    Home Department

    Music And Dancing Licences (Church And Charitable Organisations)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce amending regulations providing for reduced charges for music and dancing licences for church and charitable organisations; and if he will make a statement.

    The Public Health Acts Amendment Act, 1890—which I assume my hon. Friend has in mind—does not allow lower fees to be charged to charities. My right hon. Friend has no power to alter its provisions by regulations.

    Bedford Prisoners (Visits)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what assistance he gives to enable the wives of Bedford prisoners to visit their husbands when they are kept in prisons many miles away; and why more are not kept in Her Majesty's Prison, Bedford.

    If the wife of any prisoner is receiving regular payments of supplementary benefit, or if she is not working full time and her resources are not much above the level that would make her eligible for such payments, the Supplementary Benefits Commission will help her to meet the cost of visiting her husband in prison once every two months. Other help may be arranged, in appropriate cases, by prison welfare officers, in conjunction with the local Probation and After-Care Service or voluntary organisations.Bedford Prison is an overcrowded local prison. It is necessary to transfer some prisoners to reduce overcrowding and others to conditions more suitable to their needs.

    Licences

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he

    Description of licenceCurrent chargeNumber issuedGross revenueTotal administrative expenditureAverage administrative cost per licence
    ££££s.d.
    Burial Act 1857
    Licence for the removal of human remains.22044083571150
    Explosives Act 1875
    Factory or magazine licence (original).1060600**
    Factory or magazine licence (amending).542210**
    Importation licence£4 per 2,000 lb. imported.£2 per 2,000 lb. imported for trans-shipment4875,846**
    Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928
    Licence for storage of petroleum spirit.£1–£20 (according to quantity stored)24125**
    Dangerous Drugs Act 1965
    Licences to manufacture, to supply or procure, to possess, etc. drugs.£1–£40 (according to nature of licence)50921,08036,000 (assessed)70130
    (assessed)
    * Administrative expenditure in respect of these licences varies according to the premises and the technical problems involved and its assessment would cause a disproportionate amount of work.

    West Midlands Police Force

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the chief constable about the present manpower deficiency of the West Midlands Police Force; what relaxation has been permitted in the recruitment restrictions imposed last year; and whether agreement was reached on this figure with the Police Federation and the police authorities.

    The deficiency in the strength of this force on 31st March was 587. During the previous 15 months 157 men and women were recruited, which meant a net increase of 43. For

    will list all licences for which a charge is made by his Department, indicating the current charge, showing for the most recent convenient year the number of licences issued, the gross revenue from the licences, the total administrative expenditure in respect of each category of licence and the average administrative cost per licence in respect of each category of licence.

    The following is the information, for the year ended 31st March, 1969:the year 1969–70 the force is permitted to increase its strength by 59; this will require about 185 recruits. The Police Federation and the local authority associations have accepted the formula under which these increases are measured as the best way of distributing the total increase of 2,000 officers allowed for England and Wales.

    Roads

    Furness Link Road

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will announce a date for the commencement of work on the Furness Link Road; and if he will make a statement.

    The preparation of the proposed Barrow (Arnside) Link Road is at an early stage and although no firm date can yet be given it is hoped, subject to the satisfactory completion of the statutory procedures, that it may be possible for tenders to be invited by about the early part of 1971.

    Type of LicenceCurrent chargeNumberRevenueTotal administrative costAverage administrative cost per licence
    Broadcasting ReceivingCategories and current fees set out in Wireless Telegraphy (Broadcasting Licence Charges) Regulations 1967 and the Wireless Telegraphy (Broadcasting Licence Charges) Amendment (No. 1) Regulations 1968.17,711,747 (issued 1967–68)£79 million (1967–68)£4·5 million5s. 1½d.
    Broadcast Relay StationTypes and fees are set out in Wireless Telegraphy (Broadcast Licence Charges) Regulations 1967.849 in force£16,231 (1966–67)£18,700£22
    Broadcasting Authority (BBC, ITA and Isle of Man)£1,000 per year.3 in force£2,150Not available without considerable inquiry
    £150 per year.
    Wireless Telegraphy (Miscellaneous)Main categories and fees set out in Wireless Telegraphy (General Licence Charges) Regulations 1967.56,268 in force£219,993 (1967–68)£242,892£4 12s.
    Transmission of Telecommunications (Telegraph Act 1869)Charges assessed individually.200 in force£175,000 (1967–68)Not available without considerable inquiry

    Post Office

    Licences

    asked the Postmaster-General if he will list all licences for which a charge is made by his Department, indicating the current charge, showing for the most recent convenient year the number of licences issued, the gross revenue from the licences, the total administrative expenditure in respect of each category of licence and the average administrative cost per licence in respect of each category of licence.