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Written Answers

Volume 786: debated on Tuesday 8 July 1969

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 8th July, 1969

National Finance

Income Tax

19.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the average delay in the repayment of income tax overpaid due to a change in the marital, family, or other circumstances of the taxpayer which would entitle him to a refund.

This is not known, but tax offices have instructions to deal promptly both with claims for repayment of tax and with claims for amendment of P.A.Y.E. code numbers where any refund of tax is normally made by the employer.

41.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps by means of publicity to inform those whose yearly earned income is less than £4,000 that the highest deduction of income tax from any £ sterling of those earnings is 6s. 5d. and not 8s. 3d.

My right hon. Friend the Chancellor stressed this point in his Budget speech and is arranging for a leaflet about it to be sent out with P.A.Y.E. coding notices this autumn.

Selective Employment Tax (Scotland)

22.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the total net amount of selective employment tax paid in Scotland; and what are the estimates for the current financial year.

I regret that the information is not available in the form requested. At the original rates of tax the net yield in Scotland was estimated at £30 million in a full year; at the September 1968 rates of tax £45·5 million in a full year; and at the new rates £58 million. Scotland also receives some £40 million a year in regional employment premiums.

Interest Equalisation Tax

29.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now study further the possibility of introducing an interest equalisation tax to discourage the flow of capital out of this country to other advanced industrial countries.

Present arrangements under exchange control and the voluntary programme go a good deal further than the interest equalisation tax. They are working well and I see no reason for modifying them.

Developing Countries (Capital Flow)

30.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what studies are being made by his Department of ways of stimulating the flow of capital from this country to poor developing countries without allowing an unlimited outward flow to rich industrial countries.

None. There is already preferential freedom for private investment in developing countries of the sterling area.

National Savings

33.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total net increase in National Savings in the first six months of 1969; and what were the comparable totals in the first six months of each of the previous five years.

The provisional figures show an increase of £3·5 million in the first six months of 1969.Comparable figures were:

  • £222·3 million in 1964.
  • £124·3 million in 1965.
  • £23·9 million in 1966.
  • £96·5 million in 1967.
  • £72·7 million in 1968.

Travel Allowance

34.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he will review the size of the overseas tourist travel allowance.

As I told the House on 30th June, the position will be reviewed in the autumn and an announcement made before the next travel year begins on 1st November.

Inland Revenue Computer Centre

35.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer on what circumstances he based the decision to locate the Inland Revenue Computer Centre for the eastern counties at Washington; and if he will make a statement.

Washington was selected because it both met the operational requirements of the Inland Revenue and was the best place in the South Tyneside area from the regional planning point of view.

Channel Islands (Defence And Overseas Representation Cost)

36.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will hold discussions with the Channel Islands to invite them to contribute a proportion of the United Kingdom cost of defence and overseas representation.

Among the matters being considered by the Commission on the Constitution is whether any changes are desirable in the constitutional and economic relationship between the United Kingdom and the Channel Islands. I do not think it would be appropriate in advance of the report of the Commission to seek any contribution from the Channel Islands towards the United Kingdom cost of defence and overseas representation.

Direct Personal Taxation

37.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proposals he now has for the simplification and reform of the system of direct personal taxation.

I have nothing to add at present to the Answer which was given to the hon. Member by my hon. and learned Friend the Minister of State on 1st July.—[Vol. 786, c. 227–8.]

Selective Employment Tax

38.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish the review of selective employment tax.

46.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to end the present discrimination between retail shops of electricity boards and private traders in the application of selective employment tax, when both are selling the same commodity.

The effect of this difference in treatment for S.E.T. has not so far been shown to be sufficient to justify any action, but my right hon. Friend the Chancellor is keeping the matter under review.

Statistics

39.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what changes he has ordered in the methods employed in compiling statistics for his Department, in view of the inaccuracy of the figures provided for the balance of payments situation during the past few years; and if he will make a statement.

Statistical methods and sources are under continual review. With regard to the export statistics comprehensive checking is being introduced.

Public Schools (Registration As Charities)

40.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what further consideration he has given to the matter of the registration of public schools as charities.

The registration of public schools as charities is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science. If my hon. Friend is thinking of the fiscal consequences of registration, my right hon. Friend the Chancellor has no statement to make on this point at present.

Expenditure Overseas

42.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total of Government expenditure abroad in 1952 and 1968, respectively; and why it is added to the private invisibles figure, in view of the fact that this may mislead.

Gross Government expenditure on services and transfers was £226 million and £504 million respectively in these two years. Interest payments for 1952 were not published but those for 1968 will appear in the Pink Book in September. I do not accept the premise in the second part of the question; this expenditure is grouped with the corresponding private expenditure in order to show the total amount the United Kingdom spent overseas in this way.

Exchequer Stock

43.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total amount of interest lost to bearers of four per cent. Exchequer Stock 1968 due to the proclamation of bank holidays on 15th and 16 March 1968.

No estimate is possible, since the effects of the closure of banks on the days in question would have varied with the circumstances and intentions of different holders of the stock.

Capital Sums (Interest)

44.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action was taken by, and what directions were given to the Bank of England and to Government Departments with regard to the charging or allowing of interest on capital sums, the payment of which was deferred due to the proclamation of bank holidays on 15th and 16th March, 1968.

National Debt

45.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the national indebtedness of £33,960 million, including central bank transactions and borrowing by public corporations and nationalised industries, has been incurred since October, 1964.

Figures for the period from October, 1964 are not readily available but since the end of the financial year 1964–65 the total National Debt has increased by approximately £3,520 million.

Tax Districts

47.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the number of tax districts in the United Kingdom to which individual tax payers make their tax returns; and if he will reduce the number to fewer than 10.

There are at present 744 tax offices receiving tax returns from individuals. Over the next 10 years nine regional computer centres will be set up to handle the tax affairs of employees in Great Britain, including the issue and examination of returns.

Rhodesian Sanctions

48.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has of the cost of Rhodesian sanctions to the Exchequer from their imposition to the latest convenient date.

The direct cost to the Exchequer between i.d.i. and 31st May, 1969 was £37·7 million.

Doctors (Bank Loans)

49.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether doctors in the National Health Service who borrow money from banks to improve their premises will be able to continue to obtain tax relief on the interest they pay.

Elderly Persons (Tax Liability)

50 and 51.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will now take steps to ensure that elderly people, who draw two pensions and whose tax liability is increased and not decreased by the Finance Bill, obtain relief in accordance with his undertaking in the Budget;(2) if he will appoint a representative committee to report on the matter of tax liabilities of elderly people with more than one pension whose tax liability has increased and not decreased as a result of the Budget; and if he will make a statement.

The Finance Bill implements the undertaking my right hon. Friend gave in his Budget speech to increase the tax exemption limits for people over 65 this year broadly in step with the increases in national insurance retirement pensions which will be payable in 1969–70. The appointment of a committee does not arise.

Departmental Staff (Pay)

52.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of civil servants and other persons for whom his Department are responsible who have not received an increase in their wage or salary since October 1964 together with the rate of pay received in each instance.

The Treasury employs about 1,000 civil servants and others. All of them have received an increase in wages or salaries since October, 1964.

Exchange Control Contraventions

53.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the light of the information sent to him by the hon. Member for West Ham, North, together with a communication from a French lady, giving details of a British citizen evading the currency restrictions, what steps he has taken or plans to take to prosecute in this and similar cases.

It is our regular practice to investigate any suspected contravention of exchange control, and to provide evidence which appears to justify prosecution to the Director of Public Prosecutions for his consideration.

Capital Investment

54.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are his revised estimates of the levels of capital investment in the public and private sector, respectively, including specifically industrial investment, and in total for 1969 and expressed per head of those employed and per head of population, respectively; and how these figures compare with equivalent figures available to him from international sources in other major industrial countries and with actual investment in this country for the previous five years.

My right hon. Friend published his forecasts of public and private investment in 1969 in the "Financial Statement and Budget Report 1969–70", and a fortnight ago, in our debate on the Letter of Intent, he said that he expected a good increase in private investment during the year ahead in line with his Budget forecast. As to the second part of the Question, I will, with permission, include the relevant figures in the OFFFICIAL REPORT.

Following is the information:

GROSS FIXED CAPITAL FORMATION* PER HEAD OF NUMBERS EMPLOYED† IN THE UNITED KINGDOM‡
£

Total

Public Sector

Private Sector

1964230442167
1965245474178
1966259529179
1967284602186
1968306609206

* Including fixed capital formation by industry.

† At June in each year.
‡ Comparable figures are not available for other countries.

GROSS FIXED CAPITAL FORMATION PER HEAD OF POPULATION*

Total

Public Sector

Private Sector

United Kingdom

£ sterling
19641084861
19651165165
19661225765
19671306664
19681406971

France

French francs
19641,9076991,208
19652,0567771,279
19662,2078681338
19672,3609511,409
1968. .. .. .

Germany

German marks
19641,873. .. .
19652,014. .. .
19662,043. .. .
19671,844. .. .
1968. .. .. .

Italy

Hundred Italian lire
19641,409. .. .
19651,304. .. .
19661,362. .. .
19671,526. .. .
1968. .. .. .

Japan

Hundred Japanese yen
1964949282†688†
1965987329†680†
19661,117381†788†
19671,370. .. .
1968. .. .. .

United States

U.S. dollars
1964562‡103‡459
1965617‡111‡506
1966659‡120‡539
1967670‡127‡543
1968. .. .. .

Sources: OECD annual returns and U.N. Monthly Bulletin of Statics.

. . Not available.

* At mid-year.

† Sector figures of fixed capital formation relate to the fiscal year beginning on 1st April and therefore add to more than the total figures which relate to the calendar year.

‡ Figures of fixed capital formation exclude expenditure by government enterprises on machinery and equipment.

55.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his revised estimate of the level of capital investment in total and in the public and private sector, respectively, including specifically industrial investment, for 1969; how this compares with actual investment in each of the past five years, and expressed as a percentage of gross national product; and how these figures compare with equivalent figures available to him from international sources for other major industrial countries.

As to the first part of this Question, I would refer the hon. Gentleman to my answer to his preceding Question. As to the rest, I will, with permission, include the relevant figures in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Following is the information:

GROSS FIXED CAPITAL FORMATION* IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

Total

Public Sector

Private Sector

£ million

19645,8602,5803,280
19656,3092,7763,533
19666,7033,1333,570
19677,2473,6393,608
19687,7343,8193,915

AS A PERCENTAGE OF GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT AT FACTOR COST

Total

Public Sector

Private Sector

196420·08·811·2
196520·28·911·3
196620·49·510·9
196721·010·510·
196821·310·510·8

* Including fixed capital formation by industry.

GROSS FIXED CAPITAL FORMATION AS A PERCENTAGE OF GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT AT FACTOR COST*

Total

Public Sector

Private Sector

United Kingdom*

196419·98·811·2
196520·18·911·3
196620·39·510·8
196720·910·510·4
196821·210·510·7

France

196425·19·215·9
196525·69·715·9
196625·810·215·7
196725·810·415·4
1968. .. .. .

Germany

196430·4. .. .
196530·3. .. .
196629·2. .. .
196726·5. .. .
1968. .. .. .

Italy

196424·5. .. .
196521·2. .. .
196620·7. .. .
196721·6. .. .
1968. .. .. .

Japan

196435·710·6†25·9†
196534·311·4†23·6†
196633·911·6†23·9
196735·3. .. .
1968. .. .. .

United States

196418·5‡3·4‡15·1
196518·9‡3·4‡15·5
196618·6‡3·4‡15·2
196718·1‡3·4‡14·7
1968. .. .. .

Source: OECD annual returns.

. . Not available.

* The definitions used in the international returns differ slightly from those used in the United Kingdom national accounts, on which the preceding table is based.

† Sector figures of fixed capital formation relate to the fiscal year beginning on 1st April and therefore add to more than the total figures which relate to the calendar year.

‡ Figures of fixed capital formation exclude expenditure by government enterprises on machinery and equipment.

Abortions (Foreign Currency)

56.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated amount of foreign currency brought into the United Kingdom by the 800 or more women who have come here for the purpose of having an abortion.

Balance Of Payments

57.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in view of the refusal of the National Economic Development Council at its meeting on Wednesday, 2nd July, 1969 to establish a committee or similar organisation to promote the Government's policy of imports substitution, what estimate he has made of the deficit or surplus on the balance of payments in 1969.

I would refer the Member to the replies I gave to similar questions from the hon. Members for Ashton-under-Lyne (Mr. Sheldon) and Meriden (Mr. Speed) today.

Tax Relief Claims

58.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is the Government's intention that form R62 shall continue to be used by banks for any interest paid to them and that the decisiton on whether it is allowable for tax purposes will be the responsibility of the Inland Revenue.

A new form of certificate will be needed for claims to relief under the Finance Bill. It will be for the Inland Revenue to decide whether a claimant has proved his title to relief, subject to the usual rights of appeal.

New Capital Formation (Dividend Restraint)

59.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the effect which the control of dividends has had on the productivity of new capital formation.

Surtax Net Receipt, 1969
£'000
JanuaryFebruaryMarchAprilMayJune
Total64,96946,81530,59015,96414,11711,212
Surtax for the year:
1960–614718844966
1961–622415502674
1962–6312212347164111
1963–64100152115142117
1964–65246260183298207
1965–66*848710655633559
1966–671,6821,6871,4941,3191,305
1967–6861,02043,38626,71113,15111,699
* Including the 10 per cent, surcharge.

Association Of Consulting Engineers (Letter)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the letter of 12th June from the Association of Consulting Engineers to the Financial Secretary about taxation has been received; and when a reply may be expected.

Unfortunately a copy was not received until 7th July. I hope to be in a position to reply shortly.

Obscene Publications

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the list of books which Customs officials have instructions to seize as part of their duties in preventing the import of obscene publications.

There is no reason to suppose that, by comparison with other much more significant influences on the productivity of new capital formation, the present form of dividend restraint would have any noticeable effect.

Surtax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will show the actual receipts to his Department in each of the first six months of this calendar year in respect of payments of surtax; and if he will give a breakdown of each monthly figure to show how much of it was attributable to tax due in respect of each financial year as far back as 1960–61.

The figures required apart from the breakdown of the June receipts, which cannot yet be given are given below.

Dividend Restraint

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will undertake to publish his reply to the Confederation of British Industry's request for a change in Government policy on dividend restraint after the present legal controls come to an end at the end of 1969.

As I stated on 1st July, information will be given to the House as soon as possible.

International Monetary Fund

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is now Great Britain's total indebtedness to the International Monetary Fund.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer on what dates he is expecting to receive the team of inspection from the International Monetary Fund during the next 12 months.

No dates have been fixed, but the next consultation will probably be in August, and subsequent consultations quarterly thereafter.

Economic Expansion

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has now made of the rate of economic growth in 1969.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Dickens).

Research

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the estimated proportion of total national research devoted to military development, health, agriculture, housing and industry, respectively, in the latest available 12 months.

Overseas Indebtedness

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by what amount service charges on Her Majesty's Government's overseas indebtedness have been increased by the rescheduling of debt repayments.

Rescheduling or refinancing does not necessarily increase the service charges. We shall pay the usual charges on our drawing from the International Monetary Fund. If we draw the full $1,000 million as expected, these charges will amount to about £12 million up to the end of 1970. Later charges will depend on the Fund's holdings of sterling at that time. But charges on other debt repaid will be reduced.

Ministry Of Power

Thorpe Marsh Power Station

60.

asked the Minister of Power, in view of the recent reduction of generating capacity at Thorpe Marsh Power Station, arising from alleged constructional deficiencies, if he will now institute an independent inquiry into the technical faults which have developed at this station since it was first commissioned.

No. The general question of delays in the construction and commissioning of C.E.G.B. power stations has been examined and reported upon (Cmnd. 3960), but the operation of particular power stations such as Thorpe Marsh is a matter within the day-to-day management and operational responsibilities of the C.E.G.B.

Domestic Gas Consumption

61.

asked the Minister of Power whether he will publish a table showing the average temperature measured in degrees centigrade and Farenheit for the last quarter of 1968 and the first quarter of 1969 compared with the average temperatures in the same quarters for any convenient number of the immediately preceding years not less than five, and with the average monthly gas consumption by domestic consumers.

The following is the reply:

Great Britain
Last quarter of calendar year
YearAverage temperature*Average monthly consumption of gas by domestic consumers
°C°Fmillion therms
19637·245·0113
19646·844·2120
19656·844·2142
19667·144·8154
19676·844·2171
19687·645·7187
First quarter of calendar year
YearAverage temperature*Average monthly consumption of gas by domestic consumers
°C°Fmillion therms
19644·139·4161
19654·139·4191
19665·041·0232
19675·742·3259
19684·640·3313
19693·638·5365
* Based on the monthly mean temperatures as recorded at meteorological stations selected as representative of fuel consumption.
† Quarterly figures of actual consumption by domestic consumers are not available. Those shown relate to consumption recorded on meters read during the quarter.

Coal

Power Stations (Coal Consumption)

62.

asked the Minister of Power whether he will publish a table showing, for any convenient period not greater than 12 months each, the extra quantities of coal consumed by the Central Electricity Generating Board under the 1967 Coal Industry Act.

Additional coal consumption by the C.E.G.B. under Section 6 of the Coal Industry Act, 1967, is estimated at:

Additional coal used ('000 tons)
August—September, 1967400
October—December, 1967990
January—March, 19681,550
April—June, 19681,410
July—September, 19681,460
October—December, 19681,560
January—March, 19691,640

Pollution Control

asked the Minister of Power if he will make a statement on the present position with regard to the development of new apparatus for burning smoke-producing fuel in a smokeless manner; and what plans he has for assisting the greatest possible usage of this new apparatus.

The National Coal Board has developed and carried out satisfactory field trials of a domestic appliance of the roomheater type, known as the Housewarmer, designed to burn selected bituminous coal smokelessly. They are being installed to test the market in some 2,000 houses, with the prospect of extending the number, mainly in the Midlands and on local authority housing estates. If, as the Board expects the public are receptive, the appliance will be made more widely available. The appliance has been tested and approved by the Domestic Solid Fuel Appliances Approval Council. In the commercial field, it is not my policy to promote the claims of any one appliance in competition with others.

asked the Minister of Power if he will make a statement on the agreement between the National Coal Board and the United States National Air Pollution Administration for the exchange of information on new ways of controlling pollution from coal burning.

Yes. The Board and the National Air Pollution Control Administration have signed an agreement for an exchange of basic information on fluidised combustion. Laboratory work has shown that fluidised bed combustion can be operated so as to control sulphur oxide emissions, and it is this aspect of the technique which is of particular interest to N.A.P.C.A. The agreement will allow each side to benefit from the other's work and experimental facilities during the exploratory phase without prejudicing future commercial exploitation. The initial request for the agreement came from the United States.

Pithead Prices (Scotland)

asked the Minister of Power what was the pithead price of coal in Scotland in each of the past five years.

The average colliery proceeds per ton of coal in the Scottish Division for the financial years 1964–65, 1965–66 and 1966–67 were 104s. 6d., 103s. 5d. and 109s. 9d. respectively. Since 1967–68 the Division has been split into two Areas, Scottish North and Scottish South, and in the last two years the average colliery proceeds per ton have been as follows:

1967–681968–69
s.d.s.d.
Scottish North10491800
Scottish South10771100

Technology

Multi-Rôle Combat Aircraft

63.

asked the Minister of Technology whether he will make a statement on the arrangements to be made for the financial security and audit of the British contribution to the research and development costs of the multi-rôle combat aircraft.

An International Management Organisation has been set up to control the programme and this will pay particular attention to cost control. The United Kingdom contribution will consist largely of payment for work done in the United Kingdom and this will be subject to the usual audit by the Ministry. In addition there will be appropriate exchanges between the participating countries to ensure that their auditing arrangements are mutually satisfactory.

64.

asked the Minister of Technology whether the agreed British financial contribution to the multi-rôle combat aircraft project is subject to any break clauses or to any modification in the light of changes in the exchange rates of the currencies of participating states.

The M.R.C.A. programme is divided into a number of phases and the countries taking part commit themselves only to one phase at a time. There are also provisions for withdrawal during a phase if certain conditions are not met. There are also provisions for consultation between the participating countries if there is a change in exchange rates.

65.

asked the Minister of Technology what assessment he has made of the cost of the multi-rôle combat aircraft; and if he will make a statement.

As I told the hon. Member on 16th April, it is not customary to give estimates of this nature.

International Aircraft Projects

66.

asked the Minister of Technology what machinery of consultation exists for obtaining independent advice in assessing the cost of advanced military aircraft projects, involving three or more nations.

None. It would not be possible to get a competent source of advice which would be disinterested.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

European Economic Community

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what plans he has for reviewing Great Britain's application to join the European Economic Community, in view of the formation of a new administration in France.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Sugar

68.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give notice under the terms of the Commonwealth Sugar Agreement that after 1974 Great Britain will not undertake to pay a price per ton of sugar in excess of the price paid by sugar refiners in Canada, who at present pay less than half the price which is paid by British refiners.

No. It is impossible to forecast what Canadian refiners will be paying for sugar after 1974 or to say whether this would be an appropriate or practicable maximum price under the terms of the Agreement. I understand that, on the basis of the current world price, Canadian refiners purchasing from Commonwealth sources would have to pay only about 20 per cent. less than the maximum price payable under the Commonwealth Sugar Agreement to the developing country members during the three years 1969 to 1971.

Salmon

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what weight of salmon caught per year at Greenland it is estimated originated in British waters.

The information at present available does not permit a reliable estimate to be made.

Boned Meat (Import)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food from which countries the United Kingdom imports boned meat where foot-and-mouth disease is endemic; and whether the United Kingdom imports bones from the same countries.

Argentina and Brazil are the only such countries. We also import bones for industrial purposes from these countries. As to our future policy, I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Bolton, West (Mr. Oakes), on 21st May.—[Vol. 784, c. 95.]

North Pennine Rural Development Board

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list the objectors to the North Pennine Rural Development Board, stating briefly the nature of their objections and the alterations which have been made to deal with each objector's case.

I would refer the hon. Member, as regards the first part of his Question, to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to him on 23rd April, 1968, and as regards the second part, to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Wallsend (Mr. Garrett), on 15th May this year. The proposed area of the Board, a map of which has been placed in the Library of the House, incorporates with one exception all the modifications referred to in the latter reply.—[Vol 763, c. 14–15 and Vol. 783, c. 266.]

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the acres of common land in the area of the North Pennine Rural Development Board, giving the acreage for each county.

I estimate that about 550 square miles, or between one-fifth and one-sixth of the Board's area is common land. Much of this lies in the counties of Durham and Westmorland.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will estimate the cost of running the North Pennine Rural Development Board over the first year, including individual items such as salaries and rent.

The acquisition of premises for the Board is likely to cost about £15,000. Other administrative expenses, including salaries, in the first year may be of the order of £20,000.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many staff will be employed by the North Pennine Rural Development Board; of what grades they will be composed; and to what extent it is proposed to alter this figure after the first year.

The Board will initially employ a Secretary and a Chief Land Agent and some half-dozen supporting staff. The Secretary and the Chief Land Agent will be employed in grades analogous to Senior Chief Executive Officer and Regional Land Commissioner respectively in the Civil Service. The future staffing requirements will be reviewed as the Board's work develops.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food where the headquarters of the North Pennine Rural Development Board will be situated.

My right hon. Friend is negotiating on behalf of the Board for premises near Appleby in Westmorland.

Roumania (Barter Deal)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action he proposes to take in view of the representations of the National Farmers Union over the £22 million barter deal with Roumania to supply Great Britain with agricultural products in exchange for a large irrigation system; and if he will undertake to publish his reply to the National Farmers Union on this matter.

No such representations have been received. No barter deal is involved but I understand that, within the existing Anglo/Roumanian trade arrangements, two British importers have contracted to purchase some £30 million of agricultural produce over the next ten years.

Milk Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement about the future level of liquid milk prices.

It has been decided that the following changes should be made in the maximum retail prices of milk. For the five weeks beginning Sunday, 27th July this year, the price of ordinary pasteurised and untreated milk will be reduced from 10½d. to 10d. a pint. Prices of other grades of milk will remain unchanged, except that the maximum price of Channel Islands and South Devon farm-bottled milk will be increased by ½d. to 1s. 1d. a pint. The resulting schedule of milk prices will be increased by 1d. a pint at all points from Sunday, 31st August this year. The seasonal pricing arrangements for Channel Islands and South Devon milk introduced in 1965 will be discontinued.In deciding on these adjustments, the Government have followed their policy of keeping the retail prices of milk as low as possible consistent with the objective of meeting without subsidy the established costs of providing a sufficient remuneration for those engaged in producing. processing and distributing milk. With the demonetisation of the halfpenny at the beginning of August, it will no longer be possible for milk prices to contain odd halfpennies. Taking these two considerations together, the Government have found it possible to give the ordinary consumer the benefit of a price reduction of a halfpenny a pint for the five-week period from 27th July.Milk which is supplied under the Welfare Foods Service at 6d. a pint for the basic grades is not affected by these changes.The necessary Orders will be laid before Parliament as soon as possible.

Education And Science

Burton Latimer, Northants

69.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he is aware of the increase in the number of school children living in Burton Latimer, Northants, since 1945; and why no new school has been opened in Burton Latimer in the last 24 years.

Yes. In 1945 the Burton Latimer Schools took all the children from the ages of 5–14. Since 1953, children over 11 go to secondary schools in Kettering, leaving enough places in Burton Latimer Schools for the primary age children, despite the increase in their numbers.

Immigrant Pupils

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to be able to publish the figures for immigrant pupils in January, 1969, corresponding to those already published in 1968.

Statistics on immigrant pupils in January 1969 should be available in September 1969 and will appear in Statistics of Education, 1969 Vol. 1, which it is hoped to publish by the end of this year. Figures for January, 1968, already made available to the House in answer to the Question asked by my hon. Friend the Member for Huddersfield, West (Mr. Lomas) on 30th June, will be published in Statistics of Education, 1968, Vol. 1 in a few weeks time.—[Vol. 786, c. 41–2.]

School Building Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the percentage increase in the school building programme between 1963–64 and 1968–69.

Prime Minister (Speech)

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library copies of his public speech on the Common Market delivered at Eastbourne on 16th June to the Socialist International Congress.

Nationalised Industries(Pricing Policies)

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will take steps to co-ordinate the work of Ministers responsible for the nationalised industries to ensure that the pricing policies of the industries are so organised that they complement the Government's regional policies.

For the Government's policy on nationalised industry prices, I would refer the hon. Member to paragraph 18 of Command Paper 3437 published in November, 1967.

Parliamentary Commissioners

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if he will introduce legislation to remove or modify the time limit under which the Parliamentary Commissioner operates.

The Parliamentary Commissioner already has a wide discretion to override the time limit if he sees fit, and I cannot at present see any case for amending legislation.

Scandinavia (Prime Minister's Visit)

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if he will, during his forthcoming visit to Scandinavia, have discussions with a view to improving the trade relations and international communications between Scandinavia and North-East Scotland.

My hon. Friend will be glad to know that in our discussion of the possibilities of collaboration in the field of civil nuclear energy the Swedish Government showed considerable interest in our pioneer work at Dounreay on fast-breeder reactors.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his visit to Sweden.

Following his visit to the United Kingdom last year, the Prime Minister of Sweden invited me to make an official visit to his country. At the beginning of the visit I had the honour of being received by His Majesty The King of Sweden, for whom we in this country have the highest and most friendly regard. Anglo-Swedish relations are, of course, traditionally close and cordial. I am glad to say that the discussions which I had with Mr. Erlander and other members of his Government on this occasion confirmed once more a broad identity of views on the major issues on which we touched.Our talks, which were, of course, confidential, were not restricted to European or bilateral questions. We had a full discussion on Nigeria. In particular, we welcomed the progress which has been made in the last few days in talks between the Federal Government and the I.C.R.C. on the institution of daylight flights. We also had a thorough review of the problems of European integration, and we touched on a number of other matters of international interest, including East/West relations, the Middle East and Vietnam. I was glad to be able to discuss disarmament with the Swedish Government and to inform them of our ideas on the prevention of biological warfare.I also had a series of discussions with the Swedish Prime Minister and other members of his Cabinet at his country residence at Harpsund, where we were joined by the Finnish Prime Minister, the German Foreign Minister and others. These discussions covered a wide range of subjects and particularly European integration.

European Trade Policy

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister what further steps he is taking to discuss with heads of States of countries comprising the European Economic Community and the European Free Trade Association a policy for European trade policy unity and integration.

I would refer the hon. Member to Answers I gave to Questions earlier today.

House Of Commons (Efficiency Consultants)

asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will commission a report from efficiency consultants to advise the Services Committee how Members might best be further helped in the discharge of their duties.

I thank my hon. Friend for his suggestion, which I will carefully consider.

Employment And Productivity

Unemployment (Nottingham Area)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many unemployed male adults there were in the Nottingham area at the last monthly return; how many of these were in the building and construction industry; and what was the difference per annum on average over the last seven years between the high and low points in unemployment in that industry.

In the area covered by the Nottingham and Basford and Bulwell Employment Exchanges there were at 9th June, 1969, 3,975 men registered as unemployed, of whom 1,011 last worked in Construction (Minimum List Heading 500 of the 1968 edition of the Standard Industrial Classification).During the years 1964 to 1968 the average difference between the highest and lowest unemployment figures recorded each year for this industry in this area was 408. This information is not available for earlier years.

Junior Clerical Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity whether she will consider taking steps to make day release or block release for training purposes part of the contracts of employment for junior clerical workers.

The terms of a contract of employment are for the parties concerned to agree. My right hon. Friend has no power to ensure the inclusion of a provision on the lines proposed, and it is by no means clear that it would command the support of both sides of industry. On the general question of the further education courses to be associated with the training of young people, I would refer the hon. Member to the statement made by the then Minister of Labour on 26th July, 1965, in reply to a Question from the Member for Burnley (Mr. Dan Jones).—[Vol. 717, c. 28–29.]

European Economic Community (Trade Unionists' Exchanges)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if her Department will consider initiating, in consultation with the Trades Union Congress, a planned programme of exchanges between younger trade unionists in Great Britain and their counterparts in the member states of the European Economic Community.

There are a number of schemes which assist young trade unionists and other young workers in this country to obtain industrial experience in the countries of the E.E.C., and for young workers from E.E.C. countries to come here for a similar purpose. In addition, exchanges of young workers are arranged by direct contact between employers in different countries. I think that the present arrangements are adequate for the purposes my hon. Friend has in mind.

Unofficial Strikes

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity in view of the fact that the continuing dock strikes are weakening sterling, and making it more difficult to produce a £300 million balance of payments surplus, if she will make new proposals to the Trade Union Congress to end unofficial strikes.

I have nothing to add to the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 19th June.—[Vol. 785, c. 700–14.]

Home Department

Risley Remand Centre (Mr Grewal)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he has caused Mr. Grewal to be detained at Risley Remand Centre a fortnight after his arrival at Manchester Airport; and whether he will allow him to stay with his relatives for a limited period of three weeks.

Mr. Grewal arrived at Manchester Airport on 9th June and sought admission as a visitor. The immigration officer was not satisfied that Mr. Grewal was genuinely coming for a visit and refused admission. My hon. Friend subsequently made representations to me but, after full consideration, I could find no grounds for thinking that the immigration officer had come to the wrong conclusion. An application was then made to the High Court on Mr. Grewal's behalf, but on 4th July the Court dismissed the application. Accordingly, arrangements are being made for Mr. Grewal's return.

Bailiffs And Private Detectives

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation requiring that bailiffs and private detectives are restricted to persons who do not have criminal records.

My right hon. Friend is not of the opinion that this matter requires legislation at present.

Local Government

Conservation Areas (Norfolk)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many and which villages in Norfolk have been designated as conservation areas.

No conservation areas have yet been formally designated by the Norfolk County Council. I understand however that an initial list of conservation areas in 24 towns and villages is being considered and that in four (Aylsham, Holt, Reepham and North Walsham) surveys have been substantially completed.

Housing

Housing Subsidies Act, 1967 (Interest Rate)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he proposes to make an order prescribing the representative rate of interest for purposes of the Housing Subsidies Act, 1967.

Housing Revenue Accounts (Rate Fund Contributions)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the amount paid in rate fund contributions to housing revenue accounts in England for the year 1958–59, 1963–64, 1967–68 and 1968–69; and what he estimates will be the figure for 1969–70.

The rate fund contributions to Housing Revenue Accounts in England for 1958–59, 1963–64 and 1967–68 were £16·3 million, £19·6 million and about £37 million, respectively. The figures for 1968–69 and 1969–70 are not yet available.

Tower Blocks

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he has received the communication from the hon. Member for West Ham, North, giving details of a means of introducing safety regulations to tower blocks at a nominal cost to offset the dangers resulting from explosions by an automatic pressure reduction and gas leakage device; whether he will examine this patent with a view to its general introduction into all tower blocks; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has received my hon. Friend's letter and arranged for the device to be examined.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, in view of the fact that a 50 per cent. grant is payable by his Department to the local councils concerned towards the costs of damage done by oil slicks, whether he will now increase to 50 per cent. the grants available to local authorities who incur expenditure on strengthening tower blocks up to his recommended specifications.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he has now obtained an estimate of the cost to public funds of strengthening tower blocks.

I have no comprehensive total figure of cost because not all local authorities have yet decided what work is needed nor have all the proposed strengthening measures been costed.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the fact that in the case of the "Torrey Canyon" disaster his Department met a total of £1,671,523 of the costs as against the local authorities £66,902, he will use the same percentage basis of reimbursement for local authorities who have to expend money to strengthen tower blocks resultant from the Ronan Point disaster.

Improvements And Conversions

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what he estimates will be the expenditure under the Housing Bill for improvement and conversion of existing dwellings in the years 1969–70, 1970–71 and 1971–72.

Very little expenditure on improvements and conversions is likely to be incurred under the Housing Bill during the remainder of 1969–70. Most expenditure in this financial year and much of that falling due in 1970–71 will be the result of the carrying out of works approved under existing legislation.It is impossible to forecast precisely the rate at which applications for grants is likely to increase, but by 1971–72 expenditure on improvements and conversions under the Bill could be of the order of £25 million.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government where he proposes that the savings on the housing programme are to be made each year until and including 1972–73 in order to contain, within the present total of public investment, expenditure of £40 million proposed under the Housing Bill for improvement and conversion of existing dwellings.

My present assessment is that the broad objective described in paragraph 4 of the Financial Memorandum to the Housing Bill can be secured without further adjustment to the housing programme.

Bricks

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government in view of the fact that brick production in May, 1969 of 597 million was 102 million down on May, 1968, and deliveries showed a drop of 113 million, what revised estimate he has made of house production for the remainder of 1969.

Brick deliveries in April and May rose sharply on those for the first quarter of 1969. It is too soon to forecast total completions for the year since this will very largely depend on the availability of mortgage finance.

Post Office

Giro

asked the Postmaster-General what has been the expenditure to date on Press and other advertising in connection with the Giro.

asked the Postmaster-General what has been the operating cost, including salaries, of the Giro to date.

These form part of the operating costs of the postal business as a whole and are not published separately.

asked the Postmaster-General what has been the capital cost to date of installing the Giro.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to the hon. Member for Worthing (Mr. Higgins) on 14th May.—[Vol. 783, c. 239.]

asked the Postmaster-General what has been the loss to date on the operations of the Giro.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to the hon. Member for Cirencester and Tewkesbury (Mr. Ridley) on 3rd July.—[Vol. 786, c. 631.]

Public Building And Works

Bricks (Central Scotland)

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works if he will make a further statement on the shortage of bricks in Central Scotland; and what steps are now being taken to alleviate the problem following his consultations on this matter.

Production is slightly up and there has been some success in meeting vacancies in the brick works. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity is examining proposals for improvement in the wages structure and I hope that this may result in greater stability in the long term. Meanwhile I would expect imports from England and a wider distribution of Scottish bricks to minimise shortages in most areas.

Anti-Explosion Device

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works whether he will arrange to have the patent device, details of which have been sent to him, which prevents explosions in rooms and offices fitted in all Government offices and public buildings.

Scotland

Nuclear Power Stations

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total number of employees, including administrative staff and other personnel, employed in the production of electricity in nuclear power stations in Scotland; and if he will estimate the number there will be in each of the next five years.

I understand that the number employed at Hunterston A nuclear power station is 640 (excluding apprentices). The engagement of staff for the Hunterston B station will begin shortly, and the South of Scotland Electricity Board estimate that the total numbers employed at the two stations (excluding apprentices) will be:

End 1969650
End 1970670
End 1971680
End 1972830
End 1973910

Sugar Beet

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the Government's intentions regarding the future of sugar beet growing in Scotland.

The British Sugar Corporation are making a statement today indicating why they have decided to close the Cupar factory as part of their general rationalisation programme. It will be apparent that the Cupar factory will remain open to take beet grown in Scotland until the end of the 1971 season and this timetable gives farmers who at present grow sugar beet two further years to consider alternatives. Meanwhile my right hon. Friend the President of the Board of Trade will ensure that wherever appropriate, the Cupar area, which is part of the Scottish Development Area, is brought to the attention of prospective developers. In addition my Department are already in touch with the potato and vegetable processing industry and will see that the attractions of Fife for this industry are fully brought to notice.

Social Services

Pension Fund Accounts

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will consider, in forthcoming legislation, making it obligatory for employers to publish pension fund accounts to employees at an annual meeting, and to make any changes in policy subject to the approval of the members of the fund.

I should be willing to consider any points my hon. Friend may wish to put to me in support of these suggestions, but I can make no commitment in relation to forthcoming legislation.

Health

Immigrant Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of immigrant doctors arriving in this country and the number of those who have one, two, three, or more years of experience, respectively, after qualification before their arrival.

Information is not available in the form requested, but the total annual number of overseas doctors entering practice in this country is estimated at 3,000. Many come for limited periods of training and then return to their own countries, or emigrate elsewhere, and the annual net gain is estimated at not more than 1,000. The information asked for in the second part of the Question is not available, but indications are that the great majority have more than one year's experience since qualification.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will list the qualifications obtained by immigrant doctors before their arrival in this country, giving figures for the most recent year available.

Of approximately 3,000 doctors from overseas who obtained registration from the General Medical Council for the first time in 1968, about 850 held overseas qualifications from universities and medical schools in approximately 60 different countries, which are not recog

Place of Birth of Mother
London Borough of HaringeyBritish IslesWest IndiesIndiaPakistanAfricaCyprusOthersTotal
(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7)(8)
Number of Births in area*
1. Domiciliary595111177
2. Institutional473152149518035814
* Births included are those to mothers usually resident in the area and those (if any) occuring in the area to mothers usually resident outside England and Wales.

Mass X-Ray (Gravesend)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will instruct the Regional Director of the South-East Mass Radiography Service to reconsider his decision to discontinue the regular service for men over 45 years of age in Gravesend.

My Department hopes to issue guidance shortly to regional hospital boards on the future use of mass miniature radiography. The guidance will cover all aspects of the use of the service.

nised by the council for full or provisional registration. These doctors were granted temporary registration. The remainder held one of the primary qualifications recognised for provisional or full registration which are listed in Tables F and G of the Medical Register.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many immigrant doctors were accepted for registration immediately on arrival in this country in the most recent full year for which figures are available; and how many took a diploma or other further qualification before being accepted for registration.

Births (Haringey)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what were the numbers of births in March and April in the Borough of Haringey disclosed by the survey requested by him, classified by place of birth of mother, and whether institutional or domiciliary.

Disabled Persons (Aids)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now make a statement on the report to him of the British Medical Association's planning unit on aids for the disabled.

Yes. The main questions with which this report is concerned are long term, and I have been considering what changes in policy are required.The report criticises the delay caused by slow and cumbersome administrative procedure, and my proposals for changing the structure of the National Health Service will help to overcome this delay. The Social Services will also be affected by the recommendations of the Seebohm Report and of the Royal Commission on Local Government.It is asserted that the integration of the limb service with the Hospital Service is of prime importance in securing improvement. The principle of integration is accepted and I am considering in depth all the implications. We must be careful to preserve the many good qualities of the present comprehensive and uniform service.The report states that much of the equipment is clumsy and old-fashioned. I accept this. I have for some time been encouraging research to secure improvement and will continue to do so; in fact, the recommendations on research and development are generally in line with my views. I do not accept all that is said about artificial limbs. Progressive improvements have been made over many years and good progress towards a modular limb is being made in this country. I am encouraging this development with a view to its introduction as soon as possible. There is no "well-proved" modular method of construction of artificial limbs, as implied in the report, which I can introduce immediately.My Standing Medical Advisory Committee has set up a sub-committee to consider the future provision of rehabilitation services in the National Health Service, their organisation and development. The report has been brought to the notice of the sub-committee.I am considering the recommendations for the prescribing of aids by general practitioners but do not expect to be able to give an early decision.

Fluoridation

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the official report on 11 years of fluoridation in this country will be published.

The report will be published tomorrow. I am sending a copy of a leaflet summarising the findings to all Members of both Houses of Parliament.

Hospitals

Hospital Schemes (Exeter Area)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what hospital schemes in the Exeter area the expenditure of £348,000 in 1968–69 and of £775,000 in 1969–70 was or is to be allocated.

Revised figures now available show actual expenditure in 1968–69 of £450,000 and estimated expenditure of £589,000 in 1969–70. These figures include expenditure from hospital trust funds. Details are as follows:

Hospital and SchemeActual expenditure in 1968–69Estimated expenditure in 1969–70
££
Exeter City,
Main Phase316,000308,000
Residential Accommodation1,30018,000
Premature Baby Unit (residual payment)100
Autoclave2,800
Royal Devon and Exeter,
Fire Damage67,300109,400
Engineering Services, phase1,40027,100
2-bed Renal Dialysis Unit3,500
Autoclave2,900
Angiography18,700
Whipton,
Boiler Plant1,00030
6-bed Renal Dialysis Unit19,90054,600
Home Dialysis11,20030,000
Interim Dialysis Unit4,200
Blood Transfusion Service, accommodation2,000
Redhills, Day hospital1,700
Poltimore, Surgical beds3,900
Honeylands, Extension1,500
Exe Vale, Road widening4,200
Firpark Road, Residential accommodation2,900200
Teignmouth, Additional ward accommodation*3,800600
Budleigh Salterton, Day room*2,000
Exmouth, Theatre improvements*7,300
Lyme Regis, Theatre improvements*1,7002,300
Sidmouth, Day room*2,900
Ottery St. Mary,
Physiotherapy*1,000100
Day room*2,400
Newcourt, Quiet room*600
* Schemes paid for from hospital trust funds.

Abortions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to ensure that babies aborted in National Health hospitals are not put into incinerators while they are still alive.

The Infant Life (Preservation) Act, 1929, protects the unborn who have reached the point of viable live birth. If exceptionally a living child were born as the result of an abortion, the normal law relating to live born children applies.

Board Of Trade

Trade Figures

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he will show the percentage of imports covered by exports, with and without corrections for misrecording of exports, for the years 1952 to 1968, all at free on board values.

On the basis of the recorded export figures, the percentages are:

Per cent.
195291
195392
195493
195591
1956102
195799
1958101
195997
196090
196196
196298
196398
196489
196595
196698
196790
196890
Corresponding figures based on exports incorporating an allowance for estimated under-recording are not available; I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given him on 19th June.—[Vol. 785, c. 149–50.]

Republic Of Ireland (Tariff Reduction Timetable)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will give an assurance that the agreed timetable of tariff reduction as outlined in the Anglo-Eire Free Trade Agreement is being adhered to.

Yes. The Government of the Republic of Ireland made the 10 per cent. tariff reduction on imports from the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland on 1st July provided for in the Free Trade Area Agreement.

Transport

Manchester (Rapid Transit Study)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the decision now to postpone the scheme for rapid transit in the city of Manchester.

A report published in November 1968 by the Working Party conducting the Manchester Rapid Transit Study recommended that preparatory work on a proposed 11 mile rapid transit line between Northenden and Higher Blackley through the city centre be carried to the stage which would permit a Parliamentary Bill to be deposited in November this year. The report made it clear, however, that the role of the rapid transit line in a comprehensive transportation plan for the conurbation would have to be substantiated by the results of the S.E.L.N.E.C. Transportation Study. This study, which is at present evaluating a number of comprehensive highway and public transport networks, including several rapid transit possibilities, is not expected to produce its final recommendations until the end of the year.In this situation I understand that the Manchester City Council have decided not to deposit a Bill to promote the rail project this year. The effect of this decision is that it will now be for the Passenger Transport Authority to carry forward any proposals for rapid transit development emerging from the S.E.L.N.E.C. study. Rail rapid transit services in one form or another will have an important role in the Manchester area and I am glad that its potential is being thoroughly explored.

Roads

Public Utilities (Reinstatement Of Road Surfaces)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will issue, in respect of roads for which he is responsible, minimum standards for work of reinstatement by public utilities which have had to disturb road surfaces.

Statutory undertakers who carry out works which involve breaking up trunk roads are obliged, under the Public Utilities Street Works Act, 1950, to reinstate the road or, where we elect, through our agent authority, to carry out the reinstatement, to pay the costs reasonably incurred. The standard of work required must be related to the particular length of road concerned and it would not be appropriate to prescribe general minimum standards.

Kendal Link Road

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will now proceed with a line for the Kendal Link Road which does not disturb either Levens Park or Brettargh Holt Convent.

My right hon. Friend is not yet able to make a statement, but hopes to be in a position to do so shortly.

Wales

Mentally Ill Patients (Newport)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what were the numbers of mentally ill patients discharged into the county borough of Newport during the year 1968 as compared with 1960 and 1964.

The numbers of patients discharged to the County Borough of Newport from the principal mental illness hospital for the area (St. Cadoc's, Caerleon) were as follows:

1960250
1964488
1968573
I regret that figures of discharges from other hospitals in England and Wales to the County Borough of Newport cannot be obtained without a disproportionate amount of time and effort.

Motorways (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what percentage of the total United Kingdom expenditure on motorways was spent in Wales in 1965–66, 1966–67 and 1967–68; and what percentage will be so spent in 1968–69 and 1969–70.

The percentages are as follows:

1965–666·8
1965–678·0
1965–681·3
1965–691·3
1969–70 (Estimated)1·1
These figures largely represent expenditure on the M4 motorway but from 1969–70 onwards there will be increasing expenditure on the Morriston bypass and other motorway schemes added to the programme. In addition, expenditure will increase on dual-carriageway roads to near motorway standard which play a major part in the Welsh road programme.