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Volume 791: debated on Tuesday 18 November 1969

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 18th November, 1969

Housing And Local Government

Tree Preservation Orders

12.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many tree preservation orders have been made in each of the years 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1968.

45.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is satisfied that the legislation dealing with tree preservation orders is adequate; and if he will make a statement.

I am satisfied that this legislation is generally adequate. Increasing use is being made by local planning authorities of their powers to make tree preservation orders, and the importance for amenity of protecting trees is becoming more widely recognised.

Local Authority Housing Programmes

33.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will publish a further list of local authorities which have recently decided in principle to make significant cuts in their housing programmes; and what steps he proposes to take to reverse this trend.

I am conducting a survey of the future programmes of all priority authorities with a view to discussing with them, as necessary, what can be done to increase output.

Slum Clearance

34.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many slums have been cleared in total in each of the last six years.

The total figure was 392,846. The number of houses demolished or closed under slum clearance powers in England and Wales during each of the last six years is as follows:

196361,445
196461,215
196560,666
196666,782
196771,152
196871,586

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the number of houses scheduled to be demolished under the slum clearance programmes by each local authority in England and Wales in each of the years 1968 and 1969.

Details of houses scheduled for demolition in clearance areas confirmed, authority by authority, are set out in the Government's publication "Local Housing Statistics". Figures for 1968 were included in this February's issue. Those for 1969 will be made available as soon as possible.

House Improvement Campaign

35.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what plans he has for giving publicity to the facilities available for house improvement.

We have started by issuing 300,000 free explanatory booklets to local authorities and others for distribution to the public. These will be followed by a film. I shall shortly start on a series of visits to local authorities. All this will be preliminary to a sustained national campaign next year, which will include a major exhibit at the Ideal Home Exhibition and the use of a wide range of publicity media.

Historic Buildings (Expenditure)

36.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how much money has been spent over the last six years by the Historic Buildings Council; and how many buildings have been helped.

From 1963 to 1968 inclusive grants amounting to £2,749,105 were offered to and accepted by owners in respect of 657 buildings. Actual expenditure during this period was £2,484,828.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if the returns asked for from local authorities in Circular 61 of 1968 are yet complete; what were the total amounts paid out under the Local Authorities (Historic Buildings) Act, 1962 up to the last convenient date; and if he will list the annual expenditure.

Returns have now been received from all but 44 of the 1,244 local authorities concerned in England. The returns show a total expenditure up to and including the financial year 1968–69 of £613,735, of which £50,740 was in the form of loans. These figures include expenditure under town schemes to which my right hon. Friend also contributes, on the advice of the Historic Buildings Council. The annual figures are:

££
1962–6313,780
1963–6434,603(1,500)
1964–6582,852(4,838)
1965–6692,432(2,495)
1966–6792,510(4,195)
1967–68123,339(20,571)
1968–69194,219(17,141)
Figures in brackets are the amounts paid as loans.

Holy Jesus Hospital, Newcastle

37.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what assistance he has given to the restoration of the Holy Jesus Hospital, Newcastle.

I have made grants under the Historic Buildings and Ancient Monuments Act, 1953, to the City fo Newcastle upon Tyne of £ to meet half the cost of buying the hospital and £11,750 to meet half the cost of its repair.

Window Cleaners

38.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what study he has made of the evidence supplied to him by the hon. Member for South Bedforshire of a national shortage of window cleaners; if he will send a circular to local authori- ties encouraging them to set up local authority window cleaning services available equally to tenants and owner-occupiers in the area; and if he will make a statement.

I do not know of any reliable statistical evidence as to a national shortage of window cleaners. Local authorities have no power to set up a window cleaning service available equally to tenants and owner-occupiers in the area.

Local Authority Housing Waiting Lists

39.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many names stand on the list of applicants for council dwellings of the five housing authorities comprising the Peters-field Constituency, the Petersfield Urban District Council, the Alton Urban District Council and the rural districts of Drexford, Alton and Petersfield; and how these compare with the figures five years and three years ago.

89.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many names stand on the lists for council dwellings in the following six housing authorities, namely, Chippenham Borough, Calne and Chippenham Rural District Council, Caine Borough, Malmesbury Borough, Malmesbury Rural District Council, and Cricklade and Wootton Bassett Rural District Council; and how these figures compare with the figures three years ago.

Under Section 111 of the Housing Act, 1957, the general management of a local authority's housing stock, which includes the keeping of a waiting list, is vested in the local authority alone. We do not keep records of this nature.

Caravan Sites Act (Operation)

40.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when he intends to bring into operation Part II of the Caravan Sites Act, 1968.

59.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will now make an order bringing Part II of the Caravan Sites Act, 1968 into operation.

My right hon. Friend will make the necessary order as soon as economic conditions permit.

Pamphlet "Money To Modernise Your Home"

41.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many copies of the pamphlet "Money to Modernise your Home" have been ordered to be printed; and how many have so far been distributed to local authorities and the public.

:Some 300,000 copies of "Money to Modernise your Home ", revised in the light of the Housing Act, 1969, have already been distributed. A further 500,000 have been ordered to be printed.

Housing Conditions (North Kensington)

42.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what progress is being made in North Kensington to improve housing conditions.

I am meeting members of the council and the Greater London Council shortly to review progress since I last met them. In the meantime a considerable number of decisions have been taken by the council and I hope soon to be in a position to make a statement.

National Sports Centres

43.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what further developments he plans to support with regard to national sports centres; if he will give assistance to placing a sports centre in the Bedfordshire-Hertfordshire area to serve East Anglia and the Northern Home Counties; and if he will make a statement.

:I have recently authorised improvements to the National Mountaineering Centre, Plas-y-Brenin, and the National Sports Centre, Lilleshall. I have asked the Central Council of Physical Recreation to prepare a phased programme of further improvements at the national centres which it sees as desirable, and this will be considered in the light of other requirements for national facilities and the resources likely to be available.The provision of sports facilities in the Bedfordshire-Hertfordshire area is primarily a matter for consideration by the local authorities concerned and the Eastern Sports Council.

Coastal Preservation And Development

44.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether the Countryside Commission has yet completed its study of coastal preservation and development.

:This is a major undertaking since individual reports of regional coastal conferences have to be considered.The commission hopes to complete its study early in the new year.

Town And Country Planning Act 1968 (Implementation)

46.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he has taken to implement the 1968 Town and Country Planning Act; and whether he has yet circularised local authorities about the provisions in Sections 6 and 7 of the Act relating to the preparation of, and publicity about, local plans.

Commencement orders and related regulations and circulars have been made and issued for all the Act except Part I, which introduces the new development plan system based on structure plans. But a wide range of authorities have already been invited to start preparing for the application of Part I to their areas, and my right hon. Friend will shortly be consulting bodies concerned about the necessary regulations and circulars.

Building Construction Costs

47.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will state, in relation to 1964, the percentage increase in the average cost of a new house for sale in 1966 and 1968.

There are no figures available for costs of house construction in the private sector, but building construction costs generally rose by 9 per cent. between 1964 and 1966 and a further 7 per cent. by 1968. The average price of new dwellings mortgaged with building societies was 17 per cent. more in 1966 and 31 per cent. more in 1968 than in 1964. Part of these increases was attributable to improvement in standards.

Countryside (Public Access)

48.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what steps he is taking to maintain access to the open countryside.

:My right hon. Friend will shortly ask local planning authorities to carry out a general review of public access in their areas. I shall encourage them to make full use of their powers to make access agreements and, if necessary, access orders.

Oil Pollution

49.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he is satisfied with the arrangements made with local authorities for dealing with oil pollution; and if he will make a statement.

:There is now a series of interlocking schemes of organisation all round the coast. Early warning systems operating through the coastguard are working well. Authorities have made plans for helping each other in serious emergencies.My right hon. Friend has followed up the circular he issued last year by another describing features of some authorities' schemes which other authorities may wish to incorporate in theirs.A good deal remains to be done by way of training, exercises and the acquisition of equipment. The local authorities are turning their minds to these matters, having laid the foundations in their scheme.

Local Authority Tenants (Security Of Tenure)

50.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to extend to local authority tenants the security of tenure enjoyed by the tenants of private landlords.

The position of local authorities is very different from that of private landlords and the problems that arise are quite distinct. I am not satisfied therefore that there is any urgent need to extend the provisions of the Rent Act, 1968, into the public field, but I will gladly consider any evidence my hon. Friend wishes to submit.

Planning Authorities (New Development Plan)

51.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what plans he has to add to the number of planning authorities invited to prepare for a change-over to the new development plan system provided for in Part I of the Town and Country Planning Act, 1968.

My right hon. Friend proposes very shortly to invite some further groups of local planning authorities to join in discussions to this end with the Department, and to press on with these discussions as fast as possible.

Sewage Disposal (Expenditure)

52.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what amount of capital expenditure is to be made on sewage disposal during 1969–70.

Local authorities and the development corporations of new towns in England expect to spend about £110 million on capital works of sewerage and sewage disposal during 1969–70.

Housing (Starts And Completions)

53.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government in how many years housing construction has exceeded 350,000 completions since 1951.

This figure of 350,000 has not been exceeded in any year between 1951 and 1963. In 1964 and in every succeeding year the figure was exceeded. It should do so again in 1969.

54.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT housing completions in each year since November, 1964, compared with completions in each of the previous five years.

I will circulate the figures as requested. They range from 293,391 in 1963 to 416,366 in 1968.

GREAT BRITAIN
HOUSING COMPLETIONS
Number of dwellings
PublicPrivateTotal
November, 1959–October, 1960129,981166,659296,640
November, 1960–October, 1961119,095178,003297,098
November, 1961–October, 1962127,348173,650300,998
Novemoer, 1962–October, 1963121,610171,781293,391
November, 1963–October, 1964151,587210,731362,318
November, 1964–October, 1965166,404219,609386,013
November, 1965–October, 1966176,654205,398382,052
November, 1966–October, 1967201,756196,701398,457
November, 1967–October, 1968193,320223,046416,366
November, 1968–September, 1969168,644174,249342,893

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the number of housing starts and completions for the year to date; what percentage change these represent from the corresponding figures for 1968; and what is the expected level of house completions for 1969.

:Following are the figures

January-SeptemberPercentage
19681969Decreases
(Thousands)
Starts
Public150·6139·07·7
Private155·4131·115·6
Total306·0270·211·7
Completions
Public137·1130·74·6
Private163·8136·216·9
Total300·9266·911·3
In debate on 4th November I said that the current statistical projection was that in total about 365,000 dwellings would be completed this year. I would expect roughly half of this total to be provided by the public sector and half by the private sector.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many new houses he estimates will now be completed in 1969 in the private and public sectors, respectively; and if, in Completions have dropped currently, but I expect an increase over the 1969 and 1970 estimated figures in future and these will be added to by the number of completions of new dwellings from old properties under the Housing Act, 1969.The required figures are:view of the growing concern about the homeless following the recent report by Shelter, a copy of which has been sent to him, he will now restore the target of half a million houses a year by 1970 formerly adopted by Her Majesty's Government.

:In debate on 4th November I said that the current statistical projection was that in total about 365,000 dwellings would be completed this year. I would expect roughly half of this total to be provided by the public sector and half by the private sector. It is because of my concern with the homeless and families who are badly housed that I am taking special steps to urge authorities for areas where these problems are largely concentrated to take full advantage of the priority which the Government are prepared to give to the solution of their problems.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government the number of houses started so far this year compared with the corresponding period in 1968 and 1967; and what measures he proposes to take to reverse the decline.

:I am conducting a review of priority housebuilding programmes, and my colleagues and I shall have discussions with a number of the larger authorities in the near future. In the private sector we have increased the total available for local authority lending in 1970–71 by £ million, and we are improving the terms of the option mort-

GREAT BRITAIN
HOUSING STARTS
Number of dwellings
PublicPrivateTotal
January—September, 1967166,777186,158352,935
January—September, 1968150,572155,437306,009
January—September, 1969139,048131,124270,172

Historic Buildings (Brussels Conference)

55.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government who will be representing Her Majesty's Government at the Conference of Ministers of member States of the Council of Europe responsible for the preservation and rehabilitation of groups and areas of buildings of historic or artistic interest which is to be held in Brussels from 24th November to 28th November.

I shall be attending myself. This country's considerable experience in conserving its national buildings heritage will, I hope, be of interest to the conference, and I look forward to learning from the experience of others.

Reservoirs (Boating Facilities)

56.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government on how many reservoirs owned by statutory water undertakings in England boating is now permitted.

Provisional figures from the British Waterworks Association's first annual recreational survey show that in England sailing is permitted on 38 reservoirs and canoeing on five.

Housing Programme, Greater London Council

57.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the number of houses put into tender by the Greater London Council each year from 1965 to 1968.

58.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will make a statement about the future

gage scheme so as to provide more help for the low-income home buyer.

housing programme of the Greater London Council.

Between 1965 and 1967 the Greater London Council exceeded its original programme of tenders for 20,250 dwellings by 979. In 1968 it fell short of its 8,100 programme by 2,596 dwellings. In 1969 it will fall short of its 9,000 programme by at least 2,000 and possibly by over 4,000 dwellings. I have therefore invited the Greater London Council to discuss with me how the shortfall can be made good and a bigger programme achieved in future.

Option Mortgage Scheme (Order)

60.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when the Order on the Option Mortgage Rates of Interest is to come into effect.

The order will come into effect on 1st January, 1970, and subsidy at the increased rates will be payable from that date.

Pre-Olympic Training Scheme

61.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the extent of the scheme for pre-Olympic training as recently announced by Her Majesty's Government; whether he is satisfied with the response by the governing bodies; and if he will make a statement.

The scheme of grants for pre-Olympic training covers an extended programme of overseas competition, preparation training and specialist coaching for work with the Olympic squads and specialised equipment necessary for the training of these squads. The special needs of skating will also be met by grant assistance towards the cost of hiring facilities for approved training sessions. I am happy to say that the governing bodies concerned with Olympic sports are co-operating fully in the implementation of this scheme, which is expected to involve the Government in expenditure in the first year of up to £100,000, including the programme of overseas competition previously authorised.

School, Hallam

62.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will make a statement on the progress of the local plan for the establishment of a Church of England School in the Broomhall area of the Hallam constituency of Sheffield in relation to the 1968 Town and Country Planning Act.

The application for planning permission for the proposed schools in Broomhall is not being considered further by the city council because of procedural problems. A new application may be made after proper notices have been served on property owners affected. My noble Friend the Joint Parliamentary Secretary will he writing shortly to the hon. Member.

Agricultural Buildings (Rating)

63.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will make a statement on the progress of his talks with the National Farmers Unions on the rating of agricultural buildings.

After a thorough examination of all the issues involved Ministers reached the conclusion that change in the rating law in regard to agricultural buildings in England and Wales is not warranted in advance of the reorganisation of local government. This was explained to the hon. Member in reply to a Question he asked on 24th July.—[Vol. 787, c. 481–2.]

Homeless Persons

64.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is his policy regarding the present definition of homelessness.

72.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will now undertake, in the light of the Shelter Report entitled "Face the Facts", details of which are in his possession, a national survey to assess the number of homeless people, based on an adequate redefinition, and to establish their whereabouts.

A great deal of information has become available about bad housing conditions as a result of the national sample survey of 1967 and other inquiries. The Government's policy is to do everything possible to alleviate all forms of housing need whether arising from actual homelessness or from bad housing conditions or from other causes.Wide powers and generous incentives are now provided in the Housing Act, 1969 to deal with problems of inadequate and overcrowded housing. Although slum clearance is proceeding at record levels, I am asking local authorities for their proposals to step up their attack on the unfit housing that still remains.

Private House Building

65.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why house building in the private sector has shown a decline in 1969 as compared with 1968.

I would refer the hon. Member to the account I gave on 4th November, which is recorded in columns 853 and 854 of the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Houses, Norfolk (Amenities)

66.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he now proposes to take to deal with the 29·2 per cent. of houses in rural Norfolk without internal water closet, the 25·6 per cent. without a fixed bath, the 24·3 per cent. without a hot water tap, and the 16·62 per cent. without a cold water tap.

:The Housing Act, 1969 gives local authorities and owners the means and incentives for a determined attack upon a wide range of bad housing conditions. Officers of the Ministry are ready to discuss with any local authority how a start can best be made on this, and I hope my hon. Friend's constituents will apply for grants in as many suitable cases as possible.

Mortgage Interest Rates

67.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will take steps to introduce special low mortgage interest repayments for mortgagors under the age of 30 years.

Available evidence shows an increase in the percentage of new mortgagors under age 30 during the past four years; but if my hon. Friend has evidence of inequity towards young families in the field of home ownership, I shall be glad to study it.

Co-Operative Housing Projects

68.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will seek to encourage co-operative housing projects in areas where local authorities are not completing an adequate housing programme.

Co-ownership housing schemes are already encouraged through the Housing Corporation, and local authorities have powers to assist them, which I hope will be used in particular for improvement areas under the Housing Act, 1969.

New Towns (Infrastructure)

70.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what plans he has relating to the infrastructure of new towns; and whether he will make a statement.

:Each new town has its own plan of development, co-ordinated by the development corporation of that town.

Land Purchase And Development

71.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to enable him to appoint an independent inspector or tribunal to deal with cases in which there is conflict between the Land Commission and a local authority concerning the development or purchase of land.

Where the Land Commission appeal against the decision of a local planning authority, the appeal is considered on its merits in the usual way. I see no need for legislation to change this procedure.

Freeholds (Purchase)

73.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will take steps to adopt the formulae for calculating the prices at which leaseholders should be entitled to buy their freeholds set out in a letter he has received from William Ricketts, a specialist in these matters.

:The formula suggested was considered when the Leasehold Reform Act was being prepared, but after careful consideration it was rejected because of certain anomalies which would arise in some instances.

Compulsory Purchase Orders

74.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many compulsory purchase orders for all purposes have been served on owner-occupiers for the years 1963 to 1968 and to the latest available date in 1969.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the need for better consultation between local planning committees and the public affected by their decisions, he will send a circular to local authorities asking them to advise all those affected by compulsory purchase orders, blight, and rehousing problems, in connection with local plans, whether landlord or tenant, of particulars of their rights and the procedures they should follow in their own interest following recent legislation including the 1968 Town and Country Planning Act.

:Much information about rights and procedures is already made available, either generally or as and when needed. A reminder about the importance of following this practice in relation to the new development plan system introduced by the Town and Country Planning Act, 1968 will be included in the relevant circular.

Local Authorities (Housing Powers)

75.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many instances have occurred in each year since 1951 of Government assuming any of powers of a local authority; how many of these instances related to responsibility for housing or house allocation; and if he will make a statement.

:The answer in relation to housing or house allocation is "none". It would take disproportionate labour to find out how often it has been done in other fields, but I can say that instances are rare.

Tower Blocks (Strengthening)

76.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what the estimated total cost will be of strengthening tower blocks to the Governments declared specifications; to what extent he has now agreed with the local councils on their portion of the costs; by how much he will increase his original offer of 40 per cent. towards these costs; and whether he will make a statement.

:The first estimate of the total cost of strengthening high system-built blocks in England and Wales was £25 millions. I cannot yet improve on this estimate because my right hon. Friend has not yet received full information from the local authorities. He is still considering further representations made by the local authority associations on the question of grant.

Greater London Council (Chairman's Communication)

77.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the text of the communication which he addressed to Councillor L. Freeman, O.B.E., Chairman of the Greater London Council, under date of 23rd October, 1969, dealing with matters connected with housing.

A copy of my letter of 23rd October, together with my subsequent exchange of letters with the Greater London Council is being placed in the Library.

Cowes (Housing Quota)

78.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why he has not increased the Cowes Urban District Council's quota for advances for house purchase for the year 1969–70; if he will consider increasing the council's quota from any amount that he may reallocate from additional quotas not taken up by other authorities; whether he is satisfied that a quota of just over £10,000 is adequate for the Cowes Urban District Council; and whether he will make a statement.

Additional quotas for 1969–70 were restricted to areas of priority housing need. I regret that it has not proved possible to consider increasing that available to this Council.

Local Authorities (Contractors)

79.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation requiring local authorities to publish details of the firms with whom they are in contract.

:The publication of details of contractors is in the first instance a matter for the discretion of each local authority. If my hon. Friend has evidence that their procedure is generally defective, I shall be glad to consider it.

Sunderland (Housing Programme)

80.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what action he is taking further to his letter of 23rd October to the Mayor of Sunderland about the authority's housing programme.

:I propose to visit Sunderland in the near future to discuss local housing problems and policy.

Building Regulations

81.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will carry out a review of the present Building Regulations, in view of the fact that they are based on recommendations made nearly 10 years ago.

The Building Regulations are kept continuously under review. Since they first came into operation in February, 1966, three sets of substantive amendments have been issued and other proposed amendments have been circulated for comment.

Houses (Condensation)

82.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will take steps to prevent the hardship at present being suffered by householders arising from problems of condensation, pattern staining and thermal bridging caused by inadequate insulation.

The Working Party on Condensation, which was set up by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Public Building and Works, has already issued a free advisory leaflet to householders. A two-part technical handbook has also been prepared. The first part should be published shortly.

Ringways 1 And 2 (Glc Proposals)

83.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what consultations he has had with the Greater London Council about the proposals published recently by that authority for the construction of Ringway 2 between Falconwood and Norbury; and if he will make a statement.

None. The Greater London Council published these proposals for the purposes of consultation with the boroughs concerned. Once they have decided on the line they wish the road to follow the Council intend to submit their proposals to my right hon. Friend as a supplementary part of the Greater London Development Plan. In these circumstances it would not be appropriate for him to have discussions with the Council on these proposals.

84.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government to which sections of the Greater London Council's Ringway 2 proposals in North and South London he has so far given his approval.

:North of the river, from the junction with the M4 in Chiswick to the A13 at East Ham, Ringway 2 is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Minister of Transport. It consists for the most part of the existing North Circular Road. No approval has been given for those sections which are the responsibility of the Greater London Council.

91.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what form of public inquiry he proposes to hold before decisions are taken whether or not to proceed with the Greater London Council's Ringway 1 and Ring-way 2 proposals.

:The council's proposals for Ringway 1 and Ringway 2 will be considered at the public inquiry into the Greater London Development Plan. On the form of this inquiry I have nothing to add at present to the reply given on 14th October to my hon. Friend the Member for Brentford and Chiswick (Mr. Barnes). This reply made it clear that, although precise arrangements cannot be settled yet, the fullest opportunity would be given for reviewing the policies and proposals in this important development plan.—[Vol. 788, c. 198–9.]

109.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will arrange for a public inquiry into the Ringway 2 proposals of the Greater London Council.

:Yes. The inquiry into the Greater London Development Plan will deal with the council's proposals for Ringway 2.

Pump-Storage Water Schemes

85.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is his policy regarding the construction of dual purpose, pump-storage water schemes in England and Wales.

:My right hon. Friend and his right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales always consider the possibility of combined use in relation to any water conservation scheme, and whether this would be economic and serve a useful purpose in the particular case.

Public Works (Accidents)

86.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to make it compulsory that all accidents or incidents endangering the public arising from the failure of water, sewage, gas or electricity, or other public works should be reported within 24 hours to his Department, and that an inquiry should be made into the reasons for such accidents or incidents.

The Ministers with specific responsibilities in connection with electricity, gas, railways and other services make appropriate arrangements for receiving reports and instituting inquiries. I doubt the need for legislation.

Derelict Land

87.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will commission a survey of forms of dereliction outside the present official definition of derelict land.

:The present annual derelict land survey is sufficient to indicate the immediate scope for action by local authorities. I will, however, keep the matter under consideration.

Local Authority Representatives (Allowances)

88.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will increase the subsistence and financial loss allowances paid to local authority representatives.

:The maximum daily rate of financial loss allowance for members of local authorities is to be increased from> £3 5s. to £4, and my right hon. Friend will shortly be making the necessary regulations. He is considering what increases are appropriate in the maximum rates of subsistence and car travel allowance, and will be putting proposals to the local authority associations very soon now.

Land-Use (Zoning)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government, in assessing proposals for zoning of land-use, to what extent he takes into account the presence of industrial employment within walking distance for employees.

:It is taken into account to the extent it proves relevant to the proposal concerned.

Sewerage Scheme (Runcorn)

92.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why he has refused to sanction the provision of a public sewerage scheme for houses in Proffits Lane, Hetsby, for which an application for grant was made by the Runcorn Rural District Council on 13th June, 1969.

:The council's application has been deferred because of the present need to restrict public expenditure, as I am advised there is no risk to health.

House Purchase Loans (Kidderminster)

93.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government when the priority list used in determining allocations of money under Circular 75/69 to local authorities for house purchase loans was compiled; and if he will revise the list to ensure that the up-to-date situation of the redevelopment towns such as Kidderminster is given due weight.

:The priority list was compiled in the winter of 1965–66 and additions were made in 1967. The list of expanding towns was made up of authorities with recognised town development schemes qualifying for retrospective subsidy under the Housing Subsidies Act, 1967. In the interest of speed the additional amount allocated for the current financial year was distributed on the basis of these existing lists. The basis of allocation between authorities of the mortgage lending quota for the financial year 1970–71, which has been further increased, will be discussed with the local authority associations in the near future.

94.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why, in view of Kidderminster's redevelopment and estimated population increase, the money allocated for the house purchase loans to the borough 1969–70 is only 18 per cent. of the average of the previous seven years; and if he will give priority to Kidderminster in the reallocation of any money which proves surplus to the requirements of authorities who benefited under circular 75/69.

:The allocation to Kidderminster for 1969–70 was made in proportion to its past lending within the limits of the overall amount available at the beginning of the year. No amounts have so far been surrendered out of the additional quotas issued to priority authorities under Circular 75/69.

Isle Of Wight (House Purchase)

96.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government why he has not increased the Isle of Wight Rural District Council's quota for advances for house purchase for the year 1969–70; if he will consider increasing the Council's quota from any amount that he may re-allocate from additional quotas not taken up by other authorities; whether he is satisfied that a quota of just over £20,000 is adequate for the Isle of Wight Rural District Council; and if he will make a statement.

Additional quotas were restricted to areas of priority housing need, and I regret that it has not so far proved possible to consider increasing that available to the council. Revised arrangements for distributing the increased total allocation for the financial year 1970–71 will, however be discussed with the local authority associations shortly.

Rent Assessments

97.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he is satisfied that rent officers and rent assessment committees are not taking into account scarcity value in deciding on rents; and if he will make a statement.

The rent officers and rent assessment committees are properly carrying out their statutory duties. However, I would remind my hon. Friend that the Francis Committee is at present looking into the operation of rent regulation, especially in large centres of population where accommodation is scarce. I very much hope that anyone having experience in this matter will give evidence to the committee either about criteria to be applied or about any other relevant aspect.

Atmospheric Pollution

98.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what proposals he has to deal with the continuing problem of atmospheric pollution, particularly in the North-West and North-East of England.

:My right hon. Friend is ready to accept smoke control orders not only from any local authority in a "black" area but also from other authorities, provided they are implementing clean air programmes which he has already approved.

Town Planning Inquiry Procedure

99.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will make a statement on town planning inquiry procedure.

:The Minister has power to hold local inquiries on a number of matters under the Town and Country Planning Acts, including, particularly, development plans and appeals against decisions by local planning authorities.Rules of procedure made by the Lord Chancellor apply to most planning appeals, and the spirit of these rules is observed in other cases.

New Housing Estates (Frontage Payments)

100.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce measures to provide safeguards for house purchasers on new estates, who, having paid frontage, are faced with the developers going into liquidation.

:Safeguards are already available under the advance payments code, when applicable, and can also be applied by agreements made under Section 40 of the Highways Act, 1959.

Smokeless Zones (Council House Tenants)

101.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will introduce legislation to amend the Clean Air Act, 1956, so as to ensure that when local authorities designate smokeless zones, council house tenants are given the same rights as owner-occupiers.

:No. Complaints about the present arrangements have been negligible. It would be wrong to pay grant to a tenant for installing appliances which, as his own property, he could later remove; and uniformity of heating on council estates is often justified economically.

Oil Distribution Depot, Islington

102.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether, in view of the undesirability of building an oil distribution depot in a crowded residential area, he will use his powers to prevent the proposed development by Shell Mex and B.P. on railway land at Monney Road, Islington.

:My right hon. Friend cannot act in this matter unless the local planning authority, Islington London Borough Council, asks him to confirm a direction which would bring this proposal under normal planning control. The council has made no such request.

Housing Revenue Accounts

103 and 104.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) by what date he expects to reach a decision on the recommendations in the report of the working party on housing revenue accounts;(2) whether he will publish a summary of the comments sent to him by local authority associations on the report of the working party on housing revenue accounts.

:The local authority associations have made it clear that they reserve their position on the recommendations of the report, and I do not think it appropriate to publish their preliminary comments on it. I am considering the report as part of the longer-term review of housing finance, but I cannot yet say when I expect to be able to reach firm conclusions on the complex issues involved.

Statutory Undertakers Lessees (Planning Control)

105.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will introduce amendments to the existing planning legislation to bring the lessees of statutory undertakers within planning control.

:Lessees of statutory undertakers are not exempt from planning control, though the lessees of transport undertakers have certain rights to develop land under the provisions of the Town and Country Planning General Development Order 1963. The House was promised during the debate on the 1968 Act that those provisions would be re-examined in the impending review of the General Development Order. The review is currently in progress.

Skeffington Committee (Report)

106.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will introduce legislation to implement the Skeffington Committee's Report.

The necessary legislation is already on the Statute Book, in the 1968 Planning Act, which lays down statutory requirements for publicity and public participation in the new development plan system. The Skeffington Committee Report is about translating the statutory requirements into actual practice in the light of local circumstances, and would therefore, be best dealt with not by further legislation but by circular.

Local Authority Questionnaires

107.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will bring in legislation to prevent local authorities from using money from local rates to finance questionnaires to find out facts on private citizens' political beliefs.

I am not aware of any need for such legislation but if my hon. Friend has a particular case in mind perhaps he will write to me.

Brent (Administration)

108.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he has considered the proposals of the London Borough of Brent to reform its administration; what changes of administrative structure will need his consent; what will be the effect on the block grant of making the savings estimated at £100,000 materialise; and if he will make a statement.

I understand that the council has received but has not yet considered a report by management consultants on the authority's administration. Without seeing the report I cannot say whether it involves changes which require the consent of a Minister.

House Building, Sunderland (Letter)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether his letter dispatched to the Mayor of Sunderland, dated 23rd October, 1969, on the subject of the house-building programme for the county borough of Sunderland was intended for the personal information of the Mayor, or for the town council; and if he will make a statement.

I addressed my letter to the Mayor as chief citizen of the county borough, expecting that he would bring it to the notice of the council.

New Private Dwellings (Shrewsbury)

110.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many new dwellings were completed by private enterprise in Shrewsbury in 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1968, and what is the estimated figure in 1969; and what effect he estimates the Government's financial policy will have on this figure in future.

:4110 private houses were completed in Shrewsbury in 1965 and 443, 440 and 253 in 1966, 1967 and 1968 respectively. Up to the end of June, 1969, the last month for which figures are available, 138 houses had been completed and a further 133 were under construction.I hope that the recent increases in local authority lending, the improvements to the option mortgage scheme, and the contractual savings scheme with tax concessions for the building societies will all have a favourable effect on housebuilding in Shrewsbury—as elsewhere.

Housing (Exchequer Contribution)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the average benefit to owner-occupiers and council-house tenants, respectively, from the cost to the Exchequer, during the financial year 1968–69 of private home ownership and local authority rented housing; and what are the estimated figures for 1969–70.

:The information is as follows

Average amount (estimated)
1968–691969–70
Great Britain
Government subsidies to local authorities*2630
United Kingdom
Mortgage interest relief to house mortgagors†£43 10s.£47 10s.
*These subsidies are payable on the provision of new dwellings under all subsidy legislation, including subsidies payable to the new towns commission and Development corporations. The typical subsidy payment on new dwellings provided under the Housing Subsidies Act 1967 is of the order of £144 a year for 60 years. In practice, the cumulative subsidy payments to local authorities are not evenly spread among all tenants but ate used mainly to reduce the rents of new housing and to meet the cost of rent rebates for tenants with lower incomes.
† No separate mortgage interest relief figures for Great Britain are available.
The average figures are calculated by reference to all owner occupiers in receipt of tax relief on mortgage interest and include assistance provided under the option mortgage scheme. If the averages were calculated by reference to all owner occupiers, including those not in receipt of tax relief, the figures would be £23 and £25 for 1968–69 and 1969–70 respectively.

Housing, Oldham (Old People)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will state the present number of aged and infirm applicants for housing accommodation to the Oldham local authority; and how many such housing units will be made available to applicants not affected by clearance orders during the ensuing year.

:Under Section 111 of the Housing Act, 1957 the general management of a local authority's housing stock, which includes the keeping of a waiting list, is vested in the local authority alone. We do not keep records of this nature.As regards the last part of my hon. Friend's Question, I understand that in the next three years the council proposes to put to contract over 1,000 dwellings, of which the majority will be one or two-bedroom flats or flatlets; but I am unable to say to which applicants these will be offered.

Housing, Sheffield

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the aggregate contribution of the central Government to the housing revenue account of the County Borough of Sheffield in each financial year from April 1961, including an estimate for the current year.

:The aggregate contribution to the housing revenue account of Sheffield County Borough Council since 1961–62 for the provision of and improvements to council dwellings is as follows

£
1961–62839,983
1962–63877,546
1963–64942,752
1964–651,092,398
1965–661,316,843
1966–671,477,939
1967–681,629,996
1968–691,772,002
1969–70 (estimate)1,805,000

4.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the capital expenditure of the County Borough of Sheffield in housing in each financial year from April, 1961, including an estimate for the current year, and the number of houses completed in each year.

:The information for the years 1961–62 to 1968–69 is as follows

COUNTY BOROUGH OF SHEFFIELD
Capital expenditure on housingNumbers of houses completed
£
1961–623,910,9851,336
1962–634,405,056853
1963–646,433,2252,088
1964–658,866.2052,473
1965–669,068,4743,444
1966–678,202,1272,291
1967–689,640,2832,020
1968–698,096,3001,678
1,206 houses were completed during the current financial year up to the end of September, when a total of 3,576 houses were under construction. I am not in a position to say how many of these will be completed by the end of the financial year or what the total capital expenditure for the year will be. Capital payments for the first six months of the financial year, however, amounted to £4,232,090.

Public Wash-Houses

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) if he will take steps to assist local authorities to continue the provision of public wash-houses in areas where families have no adequate facilities for;home laundry or no drying area;(2) what assistance is given to local authorities which provide public wash-house facilities.

Rate support grant is paid towards expenditure on public wash-houses. I do not think there is a case for reducing the freedom of choice of local government by substituting a specific grant.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many local authorities in England and Wales provide public wash-houses; and what was the comparative number in the years 1965, 1960 and 1955.

Hot Water Supplies, Bolton

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many houses in the County Borough of Bolton have no internal hot water supply.

:The 1966 Census showed that there were 4,650 households in the County Borough of Bolton with no hot water tap.

Areas Of Natural Beauty

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many areas of outstanding natural beauty have now been designated; and how many are being considered.

:25 areas of outstanding natural beauty have been designated in England and Wales, and a designation order for the Suffolk coast has recently been submitted to my right hon Friend for confirmation. The Countryside Commission is proceeding towards the designation of four other areas which it has approved in principle, and has other proposals under consideration.

Semi-Detached House (Set)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the estimated cost of selective employment tax involved in the building of a semi-detached house around £4,000 in value.

Local Ombudsmen

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what plans he has to encourage local authorities to set up local ombudsmen.

As my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister said in his announcement of 22nd July, the Government accept in principle that an ombudsman system should be established by statute for investigating complaints of maladministration by local government. Detailed proposals will be worked out in consultation with the local authority associations and other interested bodies.

Furnished Dwellings (Evictions)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government the number of evictions from furnished dwellings in the last 12 months secured by court order.

:I understand that in 1968—the last period of twelve months for which figures can be supplied—5,677 warrants for possession were executed. The county court records do not identify the types of property to which warrants relate, so that warrants concerning furnished lettings cannot be distinguished from the rest.

100 Per Cent Mortgages

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how much it has cost central Government funds to guarantee 100 per cent. mortgages; and if he will now extend this guarantee to more house purchasers.

:No claim has yet been received under a guarantee issued within the option mortgage guarantee scheme. My right hon. Friend has no power to extend the scheme to other house-purchasers, to whom certain facilities are available in the ordinary way from insurance companies.

Housing Loans (Interest Rate)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government (1) if he will reduce the burden borne by local authorities in the period during which they pay the full market interest rate on housing loans before the 4 per cent. rate begins to operate; and if he will estimate the extra sum this costs on an average-priced council dwelling;(2) if he will consider granting 4 per cent. loans on new council houses not from the time when the first rents begin to be received, as at present, but 18 months to two years earlier, when expenditure begins; and if he will estimate the approximate national cost to the Government.

:To make the present subsidies for new dwellings payable when the dwelling is started, instead of on completion, would cost at least £40 million a year extra and increase the average subsidy per new dwelling by well over £200. We could not in present circumstances contemplate such a large increase in housing subsidies.

Planning Authorities (Standard)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many additional qualified planners he estimates are now required in England and Wales to bring all planning authorities up to the standard of those best staffed.

Empty Properties (Rates)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will list those local authorities which have used their power to levy half rates on empty properties, and the rate revenue thus raised; and if he will now introduce legislation requiring local authorities to levy full rates on all empty properties, or to acquire such houses compulsorily.

:Following is a list of 101 local authorities which have exercised the power in the General Rate Act 1967 to levy half rates on empty properties. No information about the extra rates collected or the extra costs of collection has been sought from local authorities because the power was introduced to discourage owners from leaving property empty, not to increase revenue; and the more successful it is in that purpose the less revenue there will be from empty property and the more from occupied property. The suggestions for legislation mentioned by my hon. Friend will be considered.Following is the list:

The county borough councils of
Bournemouth.Exeter.
Coventry.Southport.
Eastbourne.West Bromwich.
The London borough councils of
Barking.Hounslow.
Barnet.Islington.
Bexley.Kensington and
Brent.Chelsea.
Camden.Lambeth.
Croydon.Newham.
Ealing.Redbridge.
Greenwich.Southwark.
Hackney.Tower Hamlets.
Hammersmith.Waltham Forest.
Haringey.Wandsworth.
Havering.Westminster.
Hillingdon.
The non-county borough and urban district councils of
Alsager.Maesteg.
Ashby de la Zouch.Maidstone.
Barry*Mansfield.
Beaumaris.Melksham.
Bishop's Stortford.Melton Mowbray.
Cannock.Neath.
Carmarthen.Newbiggin-by-the
Chepstow.Sea.
Clay Cross.Newbury.
Hereford.Newcastle-under-
Hitchin.Lyme.
Hornsea.New Sarum.
Coalville.Petersfield.
Crawley.Portland.
Eccles.Potters Bar.
Gelligaer.Ramsgate.
Hadleigh*.Royston (Herts).
Halesworth*.St. Albans.
Halstead.Shoreham-by-Sea.
Heanor.Skelton and
Tamworth.Brotton.
Taunton.Stevenage.
Todmorden.Tonbridge.
Horsham.Tring.
Keighley*.Tunbridge Wells.
Leamington Spa.Watford.
Letchworth.Wellington (Somer-
Llandovery.set).
Llanidloes.Wimborne Minster.
Loughborough.Wisbech.
*These authorities have now ceased to rate empty property.
The rural district councils of
Ashby de la Zouch.Wantage.
Cannock.Warminster and
Cheadle.Westbury.
Long Ashton.Warmley.
Sedgefield.Watford.
South Cambridge-West Dean.
shire.Wycombe.
South Kesteven.Isles of Scilly.
Vaynor and
Penderyn.

Local Authority Meetings (Admission Of Press)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will issue a circular to local authorities outlining his Department's policy in regard to the admission of the Press to the council and committee meetings of local authorities.

:Local authorities are already well aware of the great importance my right hon. Friend attaches to their keeping the press and public informed of their activities. He will offer further advice if he thinks the situation requires it.

Local Government And Regional Planning

Local Government (Cost)

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Local Government and Regional Planning if he will publish a comparison of the estimated cost of local government in England on the basis of its reorganisation in accordance with the proposals of the Redcliffe-Maud Commission with the actual cost of local government as at present organised.

:No such estimate can possibly be made. The cost of local government depends basically on the cost of the service which it provides. But most people believe that a major reorganisation, designed to produce greater efficiency and better value for money, is now overdue.

Redcliffe-Maud Report's Proposals (Shropshire)

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Local Government and Regional Planning what representations he has received concerning the Redcliffe-Maud Report's proposals for Shropshire; when he will have completed his consultations with local authority associations; and what consultations he is having with local authorities in Shropshire.

I have received nearly 2,000 comments on the Redcliffe-Maud Report, including comments received from authorities in Shropshire. These comments reflect a very wide variety of views. I have nearly completed my consultations with the local authority associations on structure. After the White Paper on structure has been laid before the House, there will be detailed consultations on boundaries.

Regional Planning And Industrial Location

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Local Government and Regional Planning what I the administrative machinery in his Department for dealing with land use planning, economic planning and industrial location; and what arrangements he is making to ensure the future co-ordination of these with Her Majesty's Government's policy for issuing industrial development certificates.

:I have established a new central group of planning divisions consisting of the regional planning divisions of the old D.E.A. and the planning divisions of the Ministry of Housing and Local Government. On the regional planning aspects of its work this group reports directly to me.I shall be working in the closest cooperation with my right hon. Friend the Minister of Technology in the co-ordination of industrial location policy with regional policy as a whole, for which I am now responsible.

Wales

Key Workers' Housing (Subsidy)

111.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he is now able to make a statement on the re-examination of departmental procedure in respect of applications for additional subsidy under Section 5(2) of the Housing Subsidies Act, 1967, where small housing authorities are building houses for key workers.

No. No new applications have been made for the additional subsidy under Section 5(2) since my earlier reply to my hon. Friend on 26th March.—[Vol. 780, c. 330.]

Dulas Valley Defence Committee

112.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will now agree to meet the costs of legal representation of the Dulas Valley Defence Committee in the forthcoming inquiry.

:There is no statutory authority which would enable me to pay the legal costs of the Dulas Valley Defence Committee in presenting its case at the forthcoming inquiry.

A40, Raglan-Abergavenny

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what representations he has received about the need to improve the A40 between Raglan and Abergavenny; what reply he has made; and when he expects work to begin.

:I have received no recent representations, but at Ebbw Vale Urban District Council's request, a meeting is being arranged. I intend to invite Monmouthshire County Council to prepare the scheme as my agent. A start on the scheme will probably be made in the mid-1970s depending on the time required to prepare it and the availability of resources.

National Finance

50P Coin

113.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will consider assigning an official name to the 50 penny piece.

:The official name of the coin, according to the Royal Proclamation issued on 20th December, 1968, is Fifty New Pence.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has now been able to establish, from information available from international sources, which countries in Western Europe have coins with a purchasing power equal to or greater than the 50p coin in everyday use without a paper note of equivalent value in use as an alternative.

:The countries of Western Europe which have coins with a purchasing power equal to or greater than the 50p coin in everyday use also have a paper note of the same value in use.

Personal Income

114.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the gross earned income needed to provide a net annual income of £200,000, assuming the taxpayer is married with one, two, three or four dependent children, respectively.

:At present tax rates and assuming that the children are all under 11, the figures are £2,219,420, £2,218,221, £2,217,022 and £2,215,823 respectively.

ESTIMATES PER HEAD OF POPULATION AT 1963 PRICES*
Personal income before taxU.K. tax paymentsNational Insurance etc. contributionsPersonal disposable income†Consumers' expenditureSaving‡
££££££
194633240628627313
19473313582872807
194832231112792772
194933031142852805
195033531132902874
195133232132872334
1952333311229028010
1953346291330329211
1954357311331330310
1955373321432731412
1956382331533331618
1957388351533832117
1958397361834232814
19593414381935834018
1960439411937835028
1961457452139135635
1962460472339036029
1963476472440437430
1964495502641838434
1965510572942438836
1966521602943039436
1967529643043435934
1968543693344040733
1969§545723243940336
ANNUAL AVERAGE INCREASES PER CENT.
1946–1951–4·314·50·10·7—19·9
1951–1959…2·81·85·22·82·319·8
1959–19643·66·06·43·22·513·8
1964–19692·07·64·21·01·01·1
* Individual items do not necessarily add to totals because of rounding.
† This column also takes account of net transfers to or from abroad.
‡ Before providing for depreciation, stock appreciation arid additions to tax reserves.
£ First half, seasonally adjusted, at annual rate.

130.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish figures at constant 1963 prices per head of population for the years 1946 to 1968, inclusive, and for the first half of 1969 expressed in terms of an annual equivalent, of personal income before tax payments of United Kingdom taxes on income, National Insurance Contributions, etc., personal disposable income, consumers expenditure and personal saving, showing in each case the annual average percentage increase for the periods 1946 to 1951, 1951 to 1959, 1959 to 1964, 1964 to 1969.

:The information requested is given in the table below. I should point out that in the case of saving the calculation of an annual average increase between single years separated by long intervals may give misleading results.Following is the table

134.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what gross income is required to produce a tax-free income of £100,000 per annum.

:About £1,100,000; the exact amount depends on the individual's circumstances.

115.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state for the following trade groups, chemicals, oil and allied trades, electrical engineering and electrical goods, other non-electrical engineering, and vehicles, the amounts paid or expected to be paid, in each of the years 1963–64 to 1969–70 in respect of selective employment tax, duty on light and on heavy hydrocarbon oils and vehicle excise duty, respectively.

129.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were for the following industries, scientific and industrial instruments and systems, electronic computers, and aerospace equipment manufacturing and repairing, the amounts paid or expected to be paid

CAPITAL DEBT INCLUDING REVENUE DEFICIT WRITTEN OFF SINCE 1946
DatePublic CorporationActAmountInterest and other payments foregone§
£m£m
31 March 1951 to 31 March 1955Overseas Food CorporationOverseas Resources Development Acts 1951 and 195439·323·0
31 December 1962British Transport CommissionTransport Act 1962487·4115·0
31 March 1965National Coal BoardCoal Industry Act 1965415·0*70·0
31 March 1965British Overseas Airways CorporationAir Corporations Act 1966110·0†20·0
31 March 1968British European AirwaysAir Corporations Act 1969·25·02·25
31 December 1968British Railways BoardTransport Act 19681262·1‡190·5║
31 December 1968British Waterways BoardTransport Act 196815·50·25
2354·421·0
NOTES—
*Including £116 million in respect of revenue losses.
†Including £30 million reconstituted as a reserve, of which £15 million has since been recapitalised.
‡Including £705 million debt suspended under the Transport Act 1962 and finally written of under the Transport Act 1968.
§These figures have been estimated on the basis of the average rate of interest current at the time the capital was written off.
║ This figure included interest foregone on the £705 million of suspended debt, see note (.1) above. from 1962.

Nationalised Industries And Public Corporations (Finance)

118 and 123. Mr. Nott asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details in 1963–64 to 1969–70, respectively, in income tax and profits tax, corporation tax, selective employment tax, duty on light and heavy hydrocarbon oils, vehicle excise duty, respectively, and the amount of income tax deducted at source for all distributions and annual payments in these groups.

:S.E.T. is not a net charge to manufacturing industry. The information requested in respect of other taxes is not available.

Public Corporations (Written-Off Capital)

117.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of all capital in public corporations written off since 1946, showing in each case the date, the amount, the relevant legislation, and the total amount of interest or other payments so far forgone by the Exchequer in consequence.

:Following is the information in the same form as in Table 1 of Command Paper No. 3437, showing the present financial objectives of all public corporations; and if he will also publish a table comparing the actual performance of the industry with the objective then prevailing in each year for which such objectives have been set under Command Paper No. 1337 and Command Paper No. 3437;(2) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of all Exchequer grants to public corporations in each year since 1946, showing separately grants to meet deficits and grants for other purposes.

119.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT figures of nationalised industries' financial results in 1967–68 and 1968–69 comparable with those given in Tables 3 and 4 of Command Paper No. 3437; and if he will also publish in similar form a table showing the actual financial surplus or deficit of

IndustryObjectivePeriod Covered
Post Office Corporation:
(i)Postal ServicesTo achieve a surplus equal to 2 percent. of total expenditures as defined in Statements A on the 1966–67 Accounts1968–69 to 1972–73
(ii) Telecommunications8½ per cent. net*1968–69 to 1972–73
(iii)National Data Processing service8 per cent. net*1968–69 to 1971–72
National Coal BoardTo earn revenue not less than sufficient for meeting all outgoings properly chargeable to revenue account1969–70 to 1970–71
Electricity Boards (England and Wales)To earn a return of 7 per cent. after depreciation on average capital employed.1969–70 to 1973–74(A)
Gas BoardsTo earn a return of 7 per cent. after depreciation on average capital employed.1969–70 to 1973–74(A)
British Overseas Airways Corporation12½ per cent. net*1966–67 to 1969–70
British European Airways Corporation8 per cent. net*1968–69 to 1971–72
(Subject to review in a years time
British Railways BoardEach of these bodies has the statutory obligation to secure that the combined revenues of the authority and of its subsidiaries taken together are not less than sufficient to meet their combined charges properly chargeable to revenue account, taking one year with another.
London Transport Board
British Transport Docks Board
British Waterways Board
Transport Holding Company
National Freight Corporation
National Bus Company
Scottish Transport Group
Discussions are in progress in the case of the North and South of Scotland Electricity Boards, the British Airports Authority and the British Steel Corporation. The information about the financial results, including grants received, can be found in the annual accounts of the nationalised industries. I regret that the other information sought is not readily available.
*Income before interest but after depreciation at historic cost expressed as a percentage of average net assets.

Foreign Loans

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing details of the capital outstanding on each foreign loan to the United Kingdom, including drawings from the every nationalised industry or other public corporation in each year since 1946.

121.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table in the same form as Table 2 of Command Paper No. 3437, giving financial and other statistics of the nationalised industries, including the British Steel Corporation, for the year 1968–69 or the latest year for which figures are available; and if he will also give similar information for any other public corporations, for manufacturing industry, and for industry as a whole.

The financial objectives of the nationalised industries are as followsInternational Monetary Fund on 16th October, 1969, the comparable figure for 16th October, 1964, the total of interest payments made in each case between these two dates, and the amount of capital and interest payments, respectively, paid or due to be paid between 16th October, 1969 and 31st December, 1969 and in the calender year 1970

Outstanding starling valueInterest paid 16th October, 1964 to
Loan Agreement16th October 196916th October 196416th October 1969To be paid in 1969 after 16th OctoberTo be paid in 1970
CapitalInterestCapitalInterest
U.S.—Line of Credit1,2621,1256026282727
Lend Lease19717794444
ECA106108143153
MSA171721
Exim Lines of Credit241202264511
Canadian Credit369329178888
Germany—EPU16536101
Deutsche Bundesbank 211111
Offset Agreement522
Portugal173715
International Monetary Fund1,1157583716633
This information includes neither those debts incurred under central bank transactions, which are not customarily published, nor the effect of the German revaluation on the relevant German loan agreements.

Industrial Investment

122.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the average annual increase in industrial investment in France, West Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, the United States of America, Canada, Japan and Great Britain, between 1958 to 1964; 1960 to 1964 and 1964 to 1968, respectively, from information available to him from international sources.

Industrial investment has been taken to refer to gross fixed capital formation in the industries covered by the Index of Industrial Production; namely, mining and quarrying, manufacturing, construction, and gas, electricity and water. Figures on this basis are given in the table below so far as they are available. The remaining four countries mentioned in the question do not provide an analysis by industry at constant prices in their international returns. Figures for 1968 are not yet available and the final column has, therefore, been restricted to 1967.

Yes. The information is given below

Average annual increase per cent.
1958–641960–641964–67
West Germanyn.a.6·2—0·8
Italy6·85·0—0·7
Belgium10·08·410·5
Netherlands12·711·73·1
United Kingdom5·25·65·3

Employment

116.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table of employment by sector in the years 1946 to 1957, inclusive, comparable with the figures for subsequent years shown in Table 13 of "National Income and Expenditure 1969"; and if he will also indicate for each year since 1946 what part of civilian employment by central Government was accounted for by industrial and non-industrial civil servants, respectively.

Figures for 1956 and 1957 are given in the table below. I regret that comparable figures for earlier years are not available. The table also shows the numbers of industrial and non-industrial civil servants for each year from 1956 to 1968. These figures, however, cover only part of civilian employment in the central government sector as defined for the national accounts.

1. EMPLOYMENT ANALYSED BY SECTOR OF EMPLOYMENT
19561957
(thousands)
Private sector18,43218,511
Public sector
Public corporations2,0842,072
Central government
H.M. Forces761702
Civilians1,6441,624
Local authorities1,5881,628
Total6,0776,026
Total working population in employment24,50924,537
2. NUMBERS OF CIVIL SERVANTS AT 1ST JULY IN EACH YEAR*
Non industrialIndustrial
(thousands)
1956660426
1957651408
1958651385
1959654369
1960658362
1961400272
1962406270
1963420265
1964424258
1965427241
1966442236
1967467234
1968481227
*Post Office staff are excluded from 1961 onwards.

Private Industry (Assistance)

124.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state for the following trade groups, chemicals, oil and allied trades, electrical engineering and electrical goods, other non-electrical engineering, and vehicles, the amounts paid, or expected to be paid, in each of the years 1963–64 to 1969–70 in each category of assistance to private industry included among the Economic Services appearing in Table X of Command Paper No. 3583, indicating the definition of manufacturing industry used.

I regret that this information is not available in a form which would permit this Question to be answered, except at the cost of disproportionate time and effort.

126.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state for the following industries, scientific and industrial instruments, electronic computers, and aerospace equipment manufacturing and repairing, the amounts paid or expected to be paid in each of the years 1963 to 1964 to 1969 to 1970, in each category of assistance to private industry included among the Economic Services, in Table X of Command Paper No. 3583 indicating the definition of manufacturing industry used.

:I regret that this information is not available in a form which would permit this Question to be answered, except at the cost of disproportionate time and effort.

127.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing for manufacturing industry the amounts paid or expected to be paid in each of tie six years 1963 to 1964 to 1969 to 1970 in each category of assistance to private industry included among the economic services, employment, industry, trade and technology and research councils, appearing in Table X of the Memorandum of the Financial Secretary to the Treasury, Command Paper No. 3583; and if he will indicate the definition of manufacturing industry which has been used.

I regret that this information is not available in a form which would permit this Question to be answered, except at the cost of disproportionate time and effort.

Industry (Taxation)

125.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what were the amounts paid, or expected to be paid, by manufacturing industry in each of the years 196364 to 1969–70 in, respectively, income tax and profits tax, corporation tax, selective employment tax, duty on light and heavy hydrocarbon oils, vehicle excise duty and the amount of income tax deducted at source under Schedule XII, in respect of all distributions and annual payments, indicating the definition of manufacturing industry used.

128.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will state for the following trade groups, chemicals, oil and allied trades, electrical engineering and electrical goods, other non-electrical engineering, and vehicles the amounts paid or expected to be paid in each of the years 1963 to 1964 to 1969 to 1970 in respect of income tax and profits tax, corporation tax and the amount of income tax deducted at source under Schedule XII, in respect of all distributions and annual payments of enterprises in these groups.

TABLE
£ million
Year1963–41964–51965–6
Trade GroupIncome TaxProfits TaxIncome TaxProfits TaxIncome TaxProfits Tax
Manufacturing546214589234681243
Chemicals, oils and allied trades582662306928
Electrical Engineering and Electrical Goods421649196321
Other Non-electrical Engineering7332813210036
Vehicles271038153714
Year1966–71967–8
Trade GroupIncome TaxProfits TaxCorporation TaxSchedule 12Income TaxCorporation TaxSchedule 12
Manufacturing18369138021717431
Chemicals, oils and allied trades1639618091
Electrical Engineering and Electrical Goods1622316239
Other Non-electrical Engineering3110831413334
Vehicles1441614224
Notes to the Table"Manufacturing" covers the trade groups listed as such in Table 32 of the Blue Book on National Income and Expenditure 1969.1. Full details are not yet available for years after 1967–68.2. The figures of tax shown are the estimated amounts due on(a) income tax assessments under Schedule D made in the year which relate broadly to the profits of the previous year. The figures cover the tax and sole traders and partnerships as well as trading companies;(b) Profits tax assessments on profits of the previous year;(c) Income tax under Schedule 12 deducted at source from distributions and annual payments made in the year. The figures for 1966–67 include tax in respect of "excess" dividends for 1965–66.

Government Shareholdings

131.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will detail all equity and other shareholdings in existing or newly-formed companies acquired since October, 1964 by the Government, public corporations, and official agencies, giving the date of acquisition,

Name of CompanyDate of AcquisitionMain ActivityCost of AcquisitionCurrent Market value if quoted at end October, 1969Percentage which that holding represents of all similar holdings in CompanyCumulative Dividend to end October, 1969
Additional Shareholdings
BP Ltd.1966Oil£31,154,000£68,000,000£7,662,933
Compagnie Financiere de suez1969Investment HoldingsNil§£3,503,000Nil

Not all the information is available, but, with permission, I will circulate the available figures in the OFFICIAL REPORT. These will not include figures in respect of selective employment tax, which is not a net charge to manufacturing industry.

Following are the figures

the main activity of the company, the original value of the investment or purchase price, the estimated present value, the proportion which the holding represents of all similar holdings in the company, and the total interest or dividend to date.

Following are the details:

Name of CompanyDate of AcquisitionMain ActivityCost of AcquisitionCurrent Market value if quoted at end October, 1969Percentage which that holding represents of all similar holdings in CompanyCumulative Dividend to end October, 1969
British Sugar Corporation Ltd1964Processing Sugar BeetNil (Scrip Issue of 375,000 shares making total holdings of 1,125,00)£393,750 (of Scrip issue)11·£90,781
New Acquisitions
Beagle Aircraft Limited1968Light Aircraft Industry£142,490*Unquoted100·Nil
International Computers Limited1968Computers£3,500,000†£7,875,00010·Nil
Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Ltd.Early 1966 Feb. 1968Ship Building£1,500,000 (875,000 £1 Ordinary Shares received in exchange for the Government interest in Fairfields (Glasgow) Ltd. which cost £530,000 in 1966.) H.M.G. also hold £940,000 of Fairfields Loan Stock guaranteed by U.C.S.Unquoted17·5‡Nil
* Additional shares to the nominal value of £316,291, will be issued to the Minister under the terms of the transfer arrangements.
† Cost not yet fully paid up. Balance due 28th September, 1972.
‡ From the end of August, in view of a new Shipbuilding Industry Board holding, Government shareholding is under 11 per cent. in terms of voting power and a little over 5 per cent. in terms of entitlement to distributed profits.
§ A bonus issue of 1 for 5.
║ 0n additional holding of shares since scrip issue in 1964.
This table excludes a number of small groups of shares held by M.A.F.F. In mixed agricultural enterprises such as agricultural co-operatives—the total nominal value of these shares is very small.The reports and accounts of the nationalised industries and official agencies give information about their acquisitions.

National Income

132.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing, from information available from international sources, the average annual increase in national income per head at constant prices in France, West Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, the United States of America, Canada, Japan and Great Britain, between 1958 and 1964, 1960 and 1964 and between 1964 and 1968, respectively.

:The information is given in the table below. Data on national income at constant prices are not available, and the calculations have, therefore, been based on the gross national product at constant market prices. Figures for 1968 are not yet available. In the case of West Germany, the published figures for 1958 exclude the Saar and West Berlin, which are included for later years, but an estimated adjustment for this has been made in arriving at the figure for 1958–1964 given in the table.

Following is the table:

GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT AT CONSTANT (1963) MARKET PRICES PER HEAD OF THE POPULATION

Annual increase per cent.

1958–641960–641964–67
France4·14·13·6
West Germany4·6*3·61·7
Italy5·14·84·2
Belgium4·34·92·7
Netherlands4·13·52·8
U.S.A.2·82·93·9
Canada2·43·33·3
Japan10·510·08·0
United Kingdom3·12·81·6

*Partly estimated.

* Partly estimated

Gross Domestic Product

133.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing, from the information available from international sources, the average annual increase in gross domestic product in France, West Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, the United States of America, Canada, Japan and Great Britain, between 1958 and 1964, 1960 and 1964 and between 1964 and 1968, respectively.

The information is given in the table below. Figures for 1968 are not yet available from either United Nations or O.E.C.D., and the final columns have, therefore, been carried only up to 1967. In the case of West Germany, the published figures for 1958 exclude the Saar and West Berlin, which are included for later years, but an estimated adjustment for this has been made in arriving at the figure for 1958–64 given in the table.

Following is the table

GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT AT CONSTANT (1963) MARKET PRICES

Average annual increase per cent

1958–64

1960–64

1964–67

France5·45·54·5
West Germany5·9*4·92·6
Italy5·85·55·0
Belgium5·05·53·4
Netherlands5·54·84·3
U.S.A.4·44·45·1
Canada4·55·25·4
Japan11·611·19·1
United Kingdom3·83·52·1

*Partly estimated

Gaming Machine Licence Duty

135.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the revenue from gaming machine licence duty from 1st October, 1967 to 30th September, 1968, from 1st October, 1968 to 30th September, 1969 and from 1st October, 1969 to the latest convenient date.

Net receipts of gaming machine licence duty were £2.9 million from October, 1967 to September, 1968 and £3·5 million from October, 1968 to September, 1969. Receipts in the month of October, 1969 are put provisionally at £3.4 million.

The licence your for the majority of licence holders begins on 1st October, and the bulk of receipts in September are in respect of the following licence year. Receipts up to the end of October, 1969 in respect of the licence year 1969–70 are provisionally put at £4.9 million. On a similar basis, receipts for the licence years 1967–68 and 1968–69 are estimated as having been £2·8 million and £2·9 million respectively.

Gaming And Amusement Machines (Purchase Tax)

136.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the amount of purchase tax paid on coin-operated gaming and amusement machines for the period 1st April, 1969 to 1st August, 1969, and for the same period in 1968.

Inland Revenue (Valuation Office)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of trained staff of the valuation division of the Inland Revenue are now having to give virtually the whole of their time to rating revaluation work; and how changes in percentage and numbers will affect the settlement of outstanding cases requiring valuations for capital gains tax purposes.

Few professional staff are currently engaged solely on rating revaluation work. Work in connection with the revaluation is bound to increase but it is not expected to affect settlement of outstanding cases requiring valuations for capital gains tax purposes.

State Retirement Pension (Tax)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the cost of exempting the State retirement pension from the operation of the income tax system.

Social Security Benefits (Tax)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the sum of money accruing to the Treasury from bringing all social security benefits within the scope of the income tax system.

No accurate estimate can be made but the yield would probably lie between £100 and £200 millions.

Investment Abroad

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the net total value of capital, excluding overseas aid, exported from Great Britain since 1964 to the nearest convenient date; and what is the percentage of such capital exported, respectively, to South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, the European Economic Community and the United States of America.

Private investment abroad (net of disinvestment) in the period January 1964 to June 1969 is estimated at £2,588 million. The attribution of this total by individual countries is not precisely known, but in percentage terms is roughly estimated, on partial information available for the period 1964 to 1967, as follows:

Percentage of total private investment abroad
South Africa6
Australia19
New Zealand2
European Economic Community17
United States of America13

October Trade Figures

asked the President of the Board of Trade what was the effect on the visible and invisible accounts for October of financial repayments and interest payments for the purchase of United States military aircraft.

I have been asked to reply.Payments to the United States manufacturers—included in the visible balance but not in the "visible trade balance" were £4 million in October. Interest due to the U.S. Exim Bank has been running at £1 million a month in recent months and is allowed for in the estimate of the recent level of the surplus on invisibles. Capital repayments to the U.S. Exim Bank are not part of the visibles or invisibles accounts but form part of the long-term capital account.

Transport

Dock Road, Bootle And Liverpool (Traffic) (Traffic)

137.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware of the danger and traffic hazard on the Dock Road in Bootle and Liverpool, particularly at peak hours; and if he will approve proposals to minimise such dangers in the Mersey Port areas.

We are aware of the general situation on Regent Road, whichserves the docks in Liverpool and Bootle, but no proposals requiring my right hon. Friend's approval are currently before him. Any action is in the first place a matter for the County Borough Councils, as the highway authorities for this road

Copy Lane, Netherton, Bootle (Traffic)

138.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is aware of the traffic danger to schoolchildren on Copy Lane, Netherton, ill the vicinity of Netherton Green and St. Catherine's School; if he will approve proposals to minimise this risk; and if he will make a statement.

Measures have recently been taken to improve signs, carriageway markings and visibility at the Netherton Street junction with Copy Lane and a school crossing patrol is provided. The question of possible further safety measures is a matter in the first instance for Bootle County Borough Council, as highway authority.

Croft Station (Demolition)

139.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that the demolition taking place at Croft Station is causing damage to the main line north and to nearby property as a result of explosions; and if he will hold an inquiry into the matter and report his findings.

I understand from the Railways Board that the demolition of the station platforms by this method was the most expedient in the circumstances. Notice was given in advance to the police and to local residents and the methods used were approved by an explosives expert. The Board assure my right hon. Friend that after demolition the main line north of the station was inspected and no damage was found. I can well understand my hon. Friend's concern, and have brought it to the attention of the Board, who of course have the responsibility for management in this matter. I am assured that claims from local residents in respect of the slight damage caused to property will be dealt with by the contractors who carried out the work on behalf of British Rail. I see no need for an inquiry.

Road Channels, Enfield

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of the danger to motorists and pedestrians caused by an unfilled in channel in the roadway at Great Cambridge Road, Franklin Crescent, Enfield, where no warning or screening was posted; why, in view of the fact that this was reported to his agents, the Enfield Borough Council, no action was taken for a period of more than 24 hours; and whether he will make a statement.

Following the report to the Town Clerk of Enfield on 12th November, the Great Cambridge Road was thoroughly inspected but no defects could be found.The search was accordingly extended to the North Circular Road A406, and on 13th November a failure of the temporary reinstatement surrounding a re-sited gully on the eastbound carriageway near the central reservation opposite Franlaw Crescent was discovered. The fault was repaired within two hours of its discovery.

asked the Minister of Transport why uncovered channels between three feet long by six inches wide and six inches deep were allowed to be left for several days uncovered and unmarked, constituting a danger to motorists, on the main trunk road between the Cock Tavern, Great Cambridge Road and the Cambridge Roundabout, Enfield; and whether he will ensure that in future proper precautions are taken in the interests of road safety.

:The resiting of a gully close to the central reservation of the North Circular Road A406 opposite Franlaw Crescent, was carried out during October by the London Borough of Enfield as our agent. The temporary reinstatement of the surrounding surface appears to have failed on or about the 12th November. This was discovered during the morning of 13th November and reinstatement had been completed before 11 a.m. on that day. The borough engineer is well aware of his responsibility to attend to the day-to-day maintenance of the trunk road.

Roads, Sheffield (Expenditure)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the capital expenditure of the County Borough of Sheffield on roadworks in each financial year from April, 1961, including an estimate for the current year.

Figures for years up to 1968–69 as returned by Sheffield County Borough are given in the following table. We cannot yet estimate their expenditure in the current year.

EXPENDITURE ON THE CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENT* OF ROADS IN SHEFFIELD C.B.
Financial yearLocal authority expenditureCentral government grants†
£000£000
1961–62471114
1962–63108228
1963–6417579
1964–65343786
1965–6643880
1966–6733832
1967–68358690
1968–691,367386
* New construction and major improvements up to 1966–67; new construction and improvements thereafter.
† Specific grants only. Since April, 1967 only work on principal roads is eligible for grant, improvements on other roads being financially aided through the non-specific rate support grant.

Lorries And Trailers

asked the Minister of Transport how many lorries and semi-trailers of 44 tons gross vehicle weight are now operating on British roads under special licence.

None on ordinary goods-carrying operations.Abnormal indivisible load-carriers, and new vehicles on the road for test, delivery or repair and laden only with ballast, may exceed the generally applicable weight limits for goods vehicles if they comply with the restrictions laid down in the general or special authorisations covering these vehicles. The total number of vehicles so operating at a gross weight of 44 tons is not known.

Railway Line, Crewe-Glasgow (Electrification)

asked the Minister of Transport what interval of time he expects will elapse between a decision to proceed with electrification of the main line from Crewe to Glasgow and the actual use of the line by electrified train services.

:The Railways Board estimate the project should be complete in 4 to 5 years, if approval is given.

Road Accidents, Enfield

asked the Minister of Transport how many accidents there were in the weeks of November up until Saturday, 15th November on the Great Cambridge Road, Enfield, between the Cock Tavern and the Cambridge Roundabout; and how many of these were near to Franklin Crescent.

:The Cock Tavern is not on the Great Cambridge Road but at the junction of Green Lanes and the North Circular Road.Three accidents, one involving personal injury, were reported to the police as having occurred on the North Circular Road between the Cock Tavern and the Cambridge Roundabout during the first 15 days of November. None of these was in the vicinity of Franlaw Crescent, but I understand that my hon. Friend reported to the Town Clerk of the London Borough of Enfield another damage-only accident at Franlaw Crescent on 12th November.

Ashford-Hastings Railway (Closure)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a statement on the costs-and-revenue figures issued by his Department relating to the closure of the Ashford-Hastings Railway, and on the representations forwarded to him by the hon. Member for Hastings on this matter.

The Railways Board provided an estimate of the annual deficit on which grant would have been payable under Section 39(1) of the Transport Act, 1968 had the previous Minister decided on social or economic grounds that the services should be retained at their present level. The figures are:

Costs:£
Movement84,000
Terminal40,000
Track and signalling187,000
Interest and administration58,000
369,000
Less Earnings59,000
Estimated Deficit310,000
Even if the track were singled, which would require considerable capital expenditure, the Board estimated that the deficit would exceed £200,000 per annum.I will write to the hon. Member very shortly about the representations which I received from him on Friday.

Board Of Trade

Shipping Industry (Invisible Earnings)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what is his latest information regarding the invisible earnings of the shipping industry.

From January to September, 1969, the net overseas earnings of United Kingdom shipping are estimated to have been about £157 million compared with £262 million in the whole of 1968. The lower rate of earnings this year has mainly been due to lower freight rates for tanker cargoes.

Dalcross Airport (Closure)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether he is aware that the length of warning given to the public about the recent closure of Dalcross Airport, Inverness, was six days; and what is the normal warning time given to the public before airports under his jurisdici ion are closed for wear and tear repairs.

:We endeavour to give the maximum practicable period of notice of aerodrome closure when this is necessitated by normal runway maintenance. The work being undertaken at Dalcross from 17th November does not, however, fall into that category and has become urgent. Short notice was given because we were advised that the low level of activity at Lossiemouth would make it easier to accept civil operations there during the second half of November.

Airways Corporations (Obligations)

asked the President of the Board of Trade to what extent he proposes to relieve the British Overseas Airways Corporation and British European Airways of their present non-commercial and public service obligations; and whether he will make a statement.

:Neither corporation is at present required by the Government to undertake non-commercial activity.

Bea (London—Paris Service)

asked the President of the Board of Trade what proposals have been submitted by British European Airways about introducing a shuttle service between London and Paris along similar lines to that operating between Boston, New York and Washington District of Columbia, in the United States of America, details of which have been sent to him.

:We have received no such proposals, which would be a matter for airline commercial management in the first place.

Boac Vc10 Aircraft (Incident)

asked the President of the Board of Trade if he will make a statement about the near collision between an El Al and a British Overseas Airways Corporation aircraft over Epsom, Surrey, on Tuesday, 11th November; and whether he will institute an inquiry.

At 15.15 B.S.T. on Tuesday 11th November a B.O.A.C. VC10 aircraft, G-ASGD, en route to Heathrow Airport from Teheran, via Zurich had an air-miss with an El Al Boeing 720 aircraft 4XABB leaving for Tel Aviv via Munich. The incident took place three or four miles north of the radio beacon near Stoke d'Abernon which marks the Epsom holding area for aircraft approaching Heathrow from the south.Air traffic control had cleared the VC10 to leave the holding area at FL70 on a north-easterly course and the Boeing to cross the beacon marking the holding area at FL60, thus providing the standard thousand feet separation. The aircraft were flying in instrument meteorological conditions at the time in turbulent air and in cloud of varying intensity. The pilots saw each other in close proximity and took avoiding action. The steward and two passengers in the Boeing received minor injuries. No one in the VC10 was hurt.On being notified of the incident, the Chief Inspector of Accidents immediately started his inquiries and instituted an inspector's investigation. The flight data recorders and R/T transcripts have been called in for examination, and the crews and other persons concerned are being interviewed. The Chief Inspector's report will be published in due course.

Home Department

Persons Engaged In Crime (Publication Of Articles)

141.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to make it an offence to publish, against payment, articles by persons who have been engaged in crime.

:No. This is not a matter which can suitably be dealt with by legislation.

Forged 50P Coins

142.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will obtain reports from chief constables and publish each week the names of places where the police have discovered forged 50p coins, so that the public may be warned to exercise caution in accepting them.

:Arrangements already exist for the Metropolitan police to collate information about the counterfeiting of notes and coin in this country. I see no need at present for special publicity to be given to forgeries of the 50p coin.

Isle Of Man And United Kingdom (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has considered the recommendations contained in the Report of the Joint Working Party on the Constitutional Relationship between the Isle of Man and the United Kingdom; and whether he will make a statement.

:I have studied this Report with interest, and thank the Chairman, and the members of the Working Party, for the valuable Report they have produced. I have agreed that a consultative committee, to be known as "The Standing Committee on the Cornmon Interests of the Isle of Man and the United Kingdom", should be established. I have accepted the recommendation relating to the channel of communication with the Isle of Man Government, and this proposal has been implemented.The recommendations relating to defence, the application of international treaties and the method of appointing the Clerk of the Legislative Council necessarily involve a certain amount of consultation. This is proceeding. I have agreed that further consideration should be given to the matters listed in paragraph 48 of the Report

Springboks' Tour (Policing)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will obtain reports from chief constables of the cost to date of policing the games played by the Springboks; and what is his estimate of cost for the whole of the tour on the basis that the same standard of policing is maintained.

:I cannot at present add to the reply I gave to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Heeley (Mr. Hooley) on 13th November. —[Vol. 791, c. 135–6.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will obtain from the chief constables concerned, a report as to what was the cost of providing police for the games with the South African Rugby touring team at Twickenham on 5th November and Leicester on 8th November; and whether this was met in full by the promoters.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable on the cost of police operations at the rugby match between South Africa and Midland Counties at Leicester and on the amount of the sum which will be recovered, and from whom.

I cannot add at present to the reply I gave to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Heeley, on 13th November.—[Vol. 791, c. 135–6.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the cost of police operations at the Rugby Match between South Africa and Oxford University at Twickenham; and how much of this will be recovered from the Oxford University Rugby Club or the Rugby Union.

:All the police officers involved would have been on duty in any case. The charge for police officers inside the ground is £897 13s. 11d.

Refugees (Nationality)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the policy of the Government with regard to Recommendation No. 564 on the acquisition by refugees of the nationality of their country of residence, which was adopted by the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe on 30th September, 1969; and whether they will seek to take action in compliance with the proposals made in paragraph 9 of this text.

:The Consultative Assembly recommended that the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe should invite member Governments to take a number of steps in regard to the acquisition by refugees of the nationality of their country of residence. The Committee of Ministers has given preliminary consideration to this recommendation, but has not yet taken a decision.

Minors (Protection Against Ill-Treatment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the policy of the Government with regard to Recommendation No. 561 on the protection of minors against ill-treatment, which was adopted by the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe on 30th September, 1969; and whether they will seek to comply with the proposals made in this text, in particular in paragraph 9(b).

:The Consultative Assembly recommended that the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe should invite member governments to take a number of measures for the protection of minors against ill-treatment. The Committee of Ministers has not yet taken a final decision.

Petrol (Sale Regulations)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many occasions in the past two years accidents have been caused by the sale of petrol in mistake for paraffin; whether he is satisfied that existing regulations relating to the sale of petrol need amendment to secure a higher degree of safety; and whether he will make a statement.

:There is no requirement for accidents caused by the sale of petrol in mistake for paraffin to be reported to my right hon. Friend, but I am aware of one minor accident during the past two years. Filling stations and other places where petrol is stored for sale must be licensed by the local authority and I do not think that any additional measures of control are necessary.

Capital Punishment

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT those crimes for which a guilty person can still be executed.

:In England and Wales the death penalty still applies to offences of treason under the Treason Acts; piracy with violence under the Piracy Act, 1837; arson in dockyards and arsenals under the Dockyards etc. Protection Act, 1772; and certain naval and military offences under the Navy Discipline Act, 1957, the Army Act, 1955. and the Air Force Act, 1955.

Magistrates' Courts And Probation Service (Administration)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he intends, in implementation of the Beeching Commission Report, Command Paper No. 4153, to introduce legislation to make changes in the administration of the magistrates' courts and the probation services so as to effect a unified system of judicial administration; and if he will make a statement.

These matters require careful consideration, and my right hon. Friend is not yet able to make a statement.

Social Services

National Insurance And Industrial Injuries (Employers' Contributions)

143 and 144.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will publish a table showing for the following industries, scientific, and industrial instruments and systems, Standard Industrial Classification No. 354, electronic computers, Standard Industrial Classification No. 366, and aerospace equipment manufacturing and repairing, Standard Industrial Classification No. 383, the amounts paid, or expected to be paid in each of the six years 1963 to 1964 to 1969 to 1970, in respect of employers National Insurance contributions and Industrial Injuries contributions respectively;(2) if he will publish a table showing for the following trade groups, chemicals, oil and allied trades, Standard Industrial Classification Nos. 261 to 263, 271 to 277, electrical engineering and electrical goods, Standard Industrial Classification Nos. 361 to 365, 369, other non-electrical engineering, Standard Industrial Classification Nos. 331 to 339, 341, 342, 349. 351, 352, and vehicles Standard Industrial Classification Nos. 381–385–389, the amounts paid, or expected to be paid in each of the six years 1963 to 1964 to 1969 to 1970 in respect of employers National Insurance contributions and Industrial Injuries contributions respectively.

:The income from National Insurance and Industrial Injuries contributions is not recorded on an industry by industry basis.

Environmental Health Systems

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the policy of the Government with regard to Recommendation No. 562 on the administration of environmental health systems, which was adopted by the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe on 30th September, 1969; and whether they will comply with the proposals made therein, in particular, with regard to paragraph 6(b)(i).

:This recommendation was addressed to the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe, who have not yet reached any decision on it. Until they have done so it would be premature for Her Majesty's Government to announce their policy towards the recommendation.

Invalid Cars

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the present standards of invalid cars and their suitability for modern traffic conditions; and if he will make a statement.

:The present vehicles are safe and comply with the provisions of the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations. Some improvements are, however, desirable and an improved model, with automatic transmission is expected to go into production towards the end of 1970.

Adapted Motor Cars (Handicapped Persons)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many motor cars were adapted in 1968 for the use of, and supplied to, handicapped persons; and how many he estimates will be made available in 1969.

:1,711 motor cars were supplied in 1968, this figure being in- flated by the extension of eligibility in 1967. Of these about three-quarters were adapted. In 1969 we expect to supply about 1,550 cars, of which a similar proportion will be adapted.

Mass X-Ray Service

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has yet reached a decision on the continuation of the mass X-ray service.

:Yes. I shall shortly be issuing guidance to regional hospital boards on the future of the service.

Industrial Stoppages (Benefit Payments)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide the figures of the cost of unemployment benefit and supplementary benefit attributable to unofficial industrial action in the most recent available year, and the total for the last five years.

:In the twelve months up to the end of September, 1969, £363,271 was paid for the dependants of men while on official or unofficial strike. The corresponding figure for the five calendar years 1964–68 is £950,359. It is not possible to distinguish between official and unofficial strikes. There are no separate figures for unemployment benefit and supplementary benefit paid to people laid off because of strikes but not disqualified.

Scotland Forged 50P Coins

145.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will obtain reports from chief constables and publish each week the names of places where the police have discovered forged 50p coins, so that the public may be warned to exercise caution in accepting them.

No. I think this is a matter best left to the discretion of chief constables.

School Rolls, Western Isles

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the school roll in each school in the Isle of Barra in 1950, 1960 and in the current session, indicating date of closure and consequent transfer of pupils; and if he will give the same information for the same periods regarding each of the schools in the islands of Lewis, Harris, North Uist, South Uist and Benbecula, respectively.

:I am having this information collected and shall send it to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.

Vehicle Ferry Services (Western Isles)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what progress has been made towards the provision of a vehicle ferry service with appropriate shore installations for the Isle of Eriskay; and if he will make a statement;(2) what progress has been made in respect of the proposed vehicle ferry service between Berneray Island and the Isle of North Uist.

:The responsibility for putting forward detailed proposals for these services rests with Inverness County Council. I understand that the Council is reviewing all requirements for new ferry services in its area in order to establish priorities for assistance. In the case of Eriskay, the council consider the improvement of the existing jetty to be an immediate necessity, and I am considering proposals for this.

Drive-On/Drive-Off Vehicle Ferry, Stornoway-Mainland

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when a decision will be given regarding a direct drive-on /drive-off vehicle ferry between Stornoway and the mainland, in view of the pressure on the Stornoway-Kyle vessel and the cost and time involved for many users compelled to route their vehicles and goods through a large part of Lewis and Harris, across Skye, and over Kyleakin-Kyle ferry before their mainland road journey; and if he will make a statement.

The possibility of introducing this service, and the implications which it would have for other services, are being discussed by the Scottish Transport Group, the Highlands and Islands Development Board and my Department in the context of the comprehensive review the Group is making of its shipping operations. I am not in a position to say when a decision will be reached.

Nurses

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many full-time and part-time nurses, respectively, are in employment in Scotland to the most convenient date; and how many were employed in each of the preceding five years.

:The information for nurses in the National Health Service is as follows

HOSPITAL STAFF (AT 31ST MARCH EXCEPT FOR 1967 WHICH IS AT 30TH SEPTEMBER)
Whole-timePart-time
196424,5688,061
196525,6738,585
196626,5329,454
196727,73310,950
196827,66011,326
196927,51112,595
LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITY STAFF (AT 31ST DECEMBER)
Whole-timePart-time
19632,460256
19642,502270
19652,548291
19662,523315
19672,524327
19682,566360

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many nurses in Scotland receive the £48 per annum meal allowance.

:Most eligible nurses are being paid the allowance since arrangements for payment for meals as taken have now been introduced in most Scottish hospitals.

Mental Hospitals

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consultations he has had with interested bodies concerning the condition of mental hospitals in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

:All regional hospital boards were asked on 27th March to review the position of their long-stay hospitals, including mental hospitals, and particular attention will he paid to these hospitals when deciding on the hospital building programme for future years. Proposals for setting up a Scottish Proposals for setting up a Scottish Hospital Advisory Service, one of whose objects would be to assess the condition of mental hospitals. were circulated in August to regional boards and other organisations concerned with the hospital service. The observations received are now being considered.

Causeway Crossing (Kyle Of Tongue)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects work on the causeway crossing of the Kyle of Tongue in Sutherland to begin.

:Tenders are being considered with a view to starting work early next year.

Drowning Fatalities

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many drowning fatalities occurred between May and September 1969 involving the age group of 15 years and under; and how many were in inland waters and how many by the sea.

:In the five months May to September 1969 the number of deaths from drowning in Scotland in the age group 15 years and under was 25, of which 20 occurred in inland waters, and 5 in the sea.

Swimming Instruction

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many local authorities refused to support "Learn to Swim Week", sponsored by his Department in Scotland in 1969; and how many have, to date, intimated support for 1970.

:The degree of local authority participation in this voluntary campaign may vary and it is not possible to say how many have taken no part in it. This year full scale campaigns were held in 42 towns and many other authorities supported the project in various ways.Next year's campaign is to be held during the week 1st to 6th June. It is too early to say how many local authorities will take part but I hope that as many as possible will arrange to do so.

Technology

Tsr2 (Cancellation Costs)

146.

asked the Minister of Technology what is the total of cancellation costs for the TSR2.

:£53 million was paid after cancellation, £48 million representing work already done and £5 million actual cancellation costs.

Empty Houses, Cumberland

asked the Minister of Technology what representations he has received regarding empty houses under his Department in Cumberland and their prospective use by industrial firms; and if he will ensure that all Government houses under his jurisdiction are released for persons coming into the area to work.

:Representations have been received concurrently from the right hon. Member for Penrith and the Border (Mr. Whitelaw) and the clerk to the Border Rural District Council. The Department is selling houses to the Border R.D.C. Thirty-seven have already been sold, and negotiations over another 12 are in hand. Others will be sold as they become surplus.

Command Paper No 3438

asked the Minister of Technology whether he will publish a revised version of Command Paper No. 3438 to take account of the variations of policy and estimated Arture figures of consumption and pattern of supply that are known to his Department.

:I will certainly consider nearer the time of introduction of the Coal Bill later this Session whether there is any additional information which can usefully be given to the House and if so how it might best he provided.

Civil Servants (Scotland)

Mrs. Ewing asked the Minister of Technology what is the approximate number of industrial civil servants in his Department at the present time; how many of these work in Scotland; and, of the 25,600 non-industrial civil servants in his Deparment, how many are employed in Scotlan.

:There are approximately 12,400 industrial civil servants in the Department, of whom about 540 work in Scotland. The number of non-industrial civil servants in the Department who work in Scotland is approximately 1,160.

Advance Factory, Scotland

asked the Minister of Technology which advance factory in Scotland has now been standing completed and unlet for three years; what has been the total cost to date, including the cost of land, of this factory to public funds; what is the current level of maintenance costs; and to what factors he attributes the failure to find a tenant for it.

:The unlet factory is at Port Glasgow. I cannot disclose the cost of individual factories but the maintenance of the premises has cost £1,020. For technical reasons the factory is not suitable for the full range of industry, but three applications have been received from industrialists and are under consideration. I hope that it will soon be possible to allocate the factory.

Gas (Safety)

asked the Minister of Technology what steps he is now proposing to promote further safety in the use of gas.

:I have three proposals in hand. First, I shall be proposing in the forthcoming Gas Bill reserve powers for gas boards to inspect gas installations in premises in the interests of safety. Boards do not have these powers in adequate form at present. Second, the intention is by means of regulation to give statutory effect to the best standards for the installation of gas and of gas appliances in premises, so that a breach of these standards would be liable to criminal proceedings. Third, a new association is being formed representing all those who work on the installation of gas, in order to promote the observance of the highest standards in fitting and maintaining gas installations. To this end registers of those qualified and competent to do the work are to be organised.

Atomic Energy Authority (Medical Equipment Exhibition)

asked the Minister of Technology if he will arrange for an exhibition of the work on medical equipment carried out by the United Kingdom Atomic Eergy Authority on behalf of the Department of Health and Social Security to be held in the Upper Waiting Hall.

Basingstoke Canal (Breaching)

asked the Minister of Technology what steps he is taking to recover from the New Basingstoke Canal Company the cost of damage to Government property caused by the breach in the canal bank in September 1968.

:A revised claim in respect of the cost of the emergency repairs to the canal bank and the damage to R.A.E. property is now with the litigation division of the Treasury Solicitor's Department.

Trade Deficit

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the coordination between the Board of Trade and the Treasury with regard to policy of eliminating the trade deficit; and if he will make a statement.

Mentally Handicapped Children

Q7 and 8.

asked the Prime Minister (1) what progress has been made since his statement of 26th November, 1968, with the proposed transfer of responsibility for the education of mentally handicapped children to the Department of Education and Science;(2) what communications there have been from central Government to local health and education authorities, and to regional hospital boards, since 26th November, 1968, concerning the proposed transfer of responsibility for the education of mentally handicapped children to the Department of Education and Science; and if he will make a further statement.

:Following widespread consultation with all those mainly concerned, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science will this week be making known the main principles on the provision to be made for the staffs concerned within the education service; legislation will be introduced this session.

Civil List Act, 1952

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if he will move to set up a Select Committee to consider whether any amendment is required to the provisions made by the Civil List Act, 1952.

:I would refer the right hon. Gentleman to my statement in the House on 11th November. —[Vol. 791, c. 182–1941

Chancellor Of Exchequer (Speech)

asked the Prime Minister whether the public speech of the Chancellor of the Exchequer on Wednesday, 1st October at Brighton, on the subject of taxation policy, represents Government policy.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Milk Distributors (Remuneration)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has now completed his consultations with the dairy industry in relation to the proposals contained in the National Board for Prices and Incomes' Report No. 46, the Remuneration of Milk Distributors; and if he will make a statement.

:Discussions are proceeding with the industry but we are not at present able to announce any conclusion.

Rabies

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he has taken to keep himself informed of the World Health Organisation's up-to-date information concerning rabies control.

My Department is in close and frequent contact with the World Health Organisation on this.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food which animals were specified at last year's meeting at Frankfurt Main of the European Branch of the World Health Organisation, at which his Department was represented, as being particularly prone to transmit rabies to humans.

:The report on the proceedings at this conference indicates that the main reservoir of rabies virus for the epizootics in central and western Europe is the fox, dogs and cats being important transmitters between wild life and man.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what scientific evidence concerning rabies control is available to his Department which conflicts with the recommendations of the World Health Organisation as to the use of vaccination; and if he will place this in the Library.

Civil Service

Pensions (Unestablished Service)

asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether the Government accepts the principle that all unestablished service in the Civil Service should count towards a pension; and whether he will start negotiations with the appropriate bodies on a possible scheme to implement the principle.

:Civil servants with unestablished service may normally count that service towards pension on subsequent establishment. The Fulton Committee on the Civil Service recommended that the Civil Service pension scheme should be extended to cover temporary staff.

This recommendation, with other relevant recommendations of the Committee, is being studied by the Joint Committee that has been set up to review Civil Service superannuation.

Defence

Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the annual expenditure on defence in the years 1967–68 and 1968–69 falling outside the defence Votes; and what percentage of the gross national product these sums represent.

:£77 million in 1967–68 and £75 million in 1968–69. These sums represent in both years 0·2 per cent. of the gross national product at factor cost, at its latest calculation. These figures exclude the items of expenditure referred to in (a)and (e) of my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Ashton-under-Lyne (Mr. Sheldon) on 17th February.—[Vol. 778, c. 38–40.]

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the actual expenditure in pounds sterling in 1967–68 and 1968–69 as compared with estimates submitted in the respective Defence White Papers; and what percentage were these sums of the gross national product.

:Actual expenditure on the defence budget in 1967–68 and 1968–69 was £2,236 million and £2,252 million, although the latter figure is provisional. The original estimates to which these figures correspond were £2,205 million and £2,271 million respectively. Figures of original estimate and actual out-turn are not, however, strictly comparable because the former excludes pay and price rises which form a part of actual expenditure. Actual expenditure represented 6·3 per cent. in 1967–68 and 6·1 per cent. in 1968–69 of the gross national product at factor cost, at its latest calculation.

Education And Science

Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what percentage of schoolchildren in Wales continued school- ing beyond the statutory leaving age in 1968; and how this compares with 1964.(2) what was the number of comprehensive schools and the number of comprehensive school pupils in Wales in the years 1964 and 1968; and what local education authorities in Wales have failed to produce plans for comprehensive schools.

:I have been asked to reply.In January, 1964, there were 36 comprehensive schools in Wales with 23,909 pupils in them. In January, 1968, there were 118 comprehensive schools with 80,387 pupils. All local education authorities in Wales whose secondary education was not already organised on comprehensive lines have submitted plans for the reorganisation of their areas.


The percentage of children staying on in maintained schools (excluding special schools) in Wales was, in January, 1964, 30·2 and, in January, 1968, 47·9.

Primary School Headmasters (Appointment)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many and which local education authorities in England and Wales restrict appointments of headships in primary schools to teachers from within their own areas.

Schools (Main Drainage)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many schools are not linked to main drainage; and what methods of sewage disposal are used in these cases.

The information is not available. Regulation 58 of the Standards for School Premises Regulations, 1959, lays down the following requirementsDrainage and Sewage Disposal(1) Where a system of public sewers and a constant water supply under pressure are available, water closets shall be provided in every school and in all boarding accommodation and the waste matter therefrom (hereinafter called after called "sewage"), together with the liquid waste from urinals, baths, showers, wash basins and sinks (hereinafter called " drainage ") shall be conveyed into the public sewer by means of drains.(2) Where a supply of water under pressure is available but no public sewers are available, water closets shall be provided and the sewage therefrom, together with the drainage, shall be discharged either into a cesspool or into a treatment plant comprising a settlement tank and either a filter or surface land irrigation.(3) Where public sewers are available but no water supply under pressure is available, the drainage shall be discharged into the public sewer and earth or chemical closets shall be provided.(4) Where neither public sewers nor a water supply under pressure are available, the drainage shall be discharged either into a cesspool or into a treatment plant comprising a settlement tank and either a filter or surface land irrigation, and earth or chemical closets shall be provided.

Education Budget

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will estimate how much money will be required in the education budget in 1980 at 1969 prices on the basis that present policies are maintained.

:No estimate is available at present. My Department is working on some long-term studies of possible future ranges of costs of particular sectors of the education service, and it may be possible to publish these later as a contribution towards public discussion of these topics.

Further Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of the employed 16 to 18 age group were released for the equivalent of at least one day a week to attend a college.

:The percentages of these aged 16 to 18 years in employment who attended part-time day release courses in Great Britain in November 1968 was 35·6 per cent. men, 7·5 per cent. women, and 21·4 per cent. men and women. These percentages exclude students attending sandwich courses and any others allowed by their employers to attend full-time courses.

Nursery Schools, Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what plans he has to increase the number of state-maintained Welsh-medium nursery schools.

:Part of the urban programme for socially deprived areas, for which the Government has set aside £24 million over four years, is being devoted to nursery education.It is for local authorities in conjunction with their local education committees to decide what projects to submit. None of the projects submitted so far by local authorities in Wales was for a Welsh-medium school.Circular 8/60, which limits the expansion of nursery education because of the shortage of resources, still applies in areas which do not qualify under the urban programme.

Teachers' Salaries

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when the Burnham Committee on teachers' salaries is expected to complete its present series of meetings; and when an agreement on teachers' salaries is expected to be reached.

The Committee expects to meet again early next month.I cannot predict when, or whether, agreement will be reached.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Kenya (United Kingdom Journalists)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will instruct the High Commissioner in Kenya to make representations to the Kenya Government about its edict which discriminates against United Kingdom journalists by forbidding certain of them to be members of their union; and if he will make a statement.

:No. The rules governing trade union membership for employees of the Kenya Government arc a matter for that Government.As far as I have been able to ascertain, there are no journalists holding British passports employed in that capacity by the Kenya Government. Even if there were, there would seem to be no question of discrimination against them, since my understanding is that the Kenya Government has decided that all journalists in its employ, whatever their nationality, shall resign from the Kenya Union of Journalists.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish a White Paper on the effects and implications of British membership of the European Free Trade Association during its 10 years of existence, and the estimated effects on the economic position in regard to the European Free Trade Association countries, following a successful application to join the European Economic Community.

South-West Africa

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, in light of the 26th September reply of the South African Foreign Minister to the Security Council Resolution of 12th August, 1969 on the subject of South-West Africa, he will state British policy towards the United Nations decision that South Africa is no longer entitled to administer South-West Africa.

:Her Majesty's Government's policy towards South-West Africa has not changed in the light of the South African Foreign Minister's reply to which the hon. Member refers.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he accepts the validity of the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2145 (XXI) of 27th October, 1966; and how the United Kingdom delegate voted when it was presented.

:We doubt the legal competence of the General Assembly to terminate, by such resolution, South Africa's mandate over South-West Africa and to revert responsibility for the administration of the territory to the United Nations. We abstained in the vote on General Assembly Resolution 2145 (XXI).

South Africa

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why, in view of the importance of British trade with South Africa, he authorised the spokesman of Her Majesty's Government at the United Nations to state that it is his policy to be hostile to the Government of South Africa.

Nigeria

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will state the purpose of the mission, sponsored by his Department, to Biafra undertaken earlier this year by Group Captain L. Cheshire; and if he will give details of the report which Group Captain L. Cheshire made to him.

:Group Captain Cheshire's visit to the secessionist area of Nigeria was a private one, made with the encouragement but not under the sponsorship of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. His aim was to hear more about the attitude of Colonel Ojukwu and on what terms he was prepared to agree to a settlement. On his return Group Captain Cheshire reported on his visit and I discussed his impressions fully with him. It is not the Government's practice to make public the contents of such discussions.

Employment And Productivity

Hotel And Catering Industry Training Board

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is now the composition of the Hotel and Catering Industry Training Board; what interests its members are qualified to represent; and if she will take steps to ensure that all aspects of the industry have appropriate representation in the future.

:We are satisfied that those activities of the hotel and catering industry which are within the scope of the board are adequately represented by its present membership, which is as follows:

HOTEL AND CATERING INDUSTRY TRAINING BOARD

Membership of the Board

Interests represented

Chairman

Sir Julian Salmon, C.B.E., B.A., F.H.C.I. (formerly Deputy Chairman, J. Lyons & Co. Ltd.)

Employer Members

Miss O. Barnett, Principal of Professional and Technical Training Office, Savoy Hotel Ltd.Hotels
Mr. C. M. Cockerill, F.H.C.I.. M.B.I.M., Director, Berni Inns Ltd.Restaurants
Mr. F. G. Hole, C.B.E.. Managing Director, British Transport Hotels LtdHotels
Mr. H. A. Hope, O.B.E., M.C., B.A., Director, Whitbread & Co.Ltd.Public Houses
Mr. L. J. Phillips, F.H.C.I., Managing Director, J. T. C. PhillipsPublic Houses
Mr. R. L. Stinton, F.H.C.I., Chief Catering Adviser, Imperial Chemical Industries Ltd.Industrial Catering
Mr. L. D West, F.H.C.I., Proprietor, Carlton Restaurant. BlackpoolRestaurants

Employee Members

Mr. B. R. Armstrong, M.H.C.I., Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied WorkersRestaurants and Public Houses
Mr. F. A. Baker, National Industrial Officer, General and Municipal Workers' UnionHotels
Mr. D. A. MacKenzie, Assistant General Secretary, Transport Salaried Staffs' AssociationManagerial and Clerical Grades
Mrs. C. M. Patterson, B.A., National Woman Officer, Transport and General Workers' UnionIndustrial Catering
Mr. S. E. Robinson, Area Organiser, Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied WorkersRestaurants and Public Houses
Mr. E. G. Romp, Regional Official, General and Municipal Workers' UnionHotels
Mr. S. Weighell, Assistant General Secretary, National Union of RailwaymenRailway Catering

Educational Members

Mr. R. E. Hodd, B.Sc.(Econ.), Chief Education Officer, Blackpool County Borough
Mr. D. J. Massey, F.H.C.I., Head of Catering Department, Brighton Technical College
Mr. S. F. Trustram, M.Sc., Principal, Salisbury and South Wilts College of Further Education
An Educational Member from Scotland has still to be appointed.

Members (Free Postage Facilities)

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will define Parliamentary business in relation to the free postage facilities for hon. Members.

:I would refer the hon. Member to the reply on this matter which I gave to the hon. Member for Leominster (Sir Clive Bossom) on 12th November.—[Vol. 791, c. 403–4.]