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Volume 796: debated on Tuesday 24 February 1970

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 24th February, 1970

Transport

Channel Tunnel

8.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will place in the Library a copy of the plan drawn up by the Kent County Council in conjunction with his Department, showing the area of interest for the Channel Tunnel and its approaches.

Yes. A copy of the plan is available in the Library.The plan is a working document drawn up by my Department for local authority planning staffs. The greater part of the land within the "area of interest" shown on it would not, of course, be required either for tunnel purposes or for the improved A.20 road route.

35.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will now revise the financial estimates contained in the 1963 White Paper on the Channel Tunnel.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave him on 4th February.—[Vol. 795, c. 149]

Passenger Transport Authorities

33.

asked the Minister of Transport what proposals he has to set up further passenger transport authorities in England and Wales.

None. The question of establishing passenger transport authorities in Wales is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

44.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will agree to write-off the inherited debts of the Merseyside and South East Lancashire North East Cheshire Passenger Authorities.

No. It is normal practice in transfers within the public sector that liabilities as well as assets are transferred, and this principle was followed in the legislation regulating the establishment of the P.T.As.

Road Traffic (Warning Triangles)

34.

asked the Minister of Transport how many countries have signed the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic; and of those how many make it obligatory on motorists to carry advance warning triangles.

Her Majesty's Government have been informed that 35 countries have signed the convention. I understand that of these 11 make it obligatory for all motorists to carry advance warning triangles.

A3, Burpham—Ladymead Diversion

36.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he has received the representations of the Guildford Corporation concerning the deleterious effect on amenity of his proposed route for the new A3 Burpham—Ladymead diversion; and whether he will now amend his draft proposals in the light of these representations.

An objection has been received from the Guildford Corporation which will be considered with other objections before a decision is reached.

Condemned Bridge, Northolt

37.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a further statement regarding the replacement of the condemned bridge at Kensington Road, Northolt, Middlesex.

As my hon. Friend knows, this bridge is on a district road for which the London Borough of Ealing is the responsible authority. I understand that it has now invited tenders and that work will start in the spring.

Transport Holding Company (Expanding Business)

38.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will issue a general direction to the Transport Holding Company to expand the trade of Thomas Cook and other travel firms, following the removal of the —50 travel allowance.

No. The Transport Holding Company and its subsidiary companies are well aware of the importance of expanding business wherever there are profitable opportunities of doing so.

Motorway Programme

39.

asked the Minister of Transport what will be the estimated proportion of the total mileage of United Kingdom motorways in England, Scotland and Wales, respectively, in 1975.

There are about 1,350 miles of motorway in preparation, under construction or already in use in England. I hope that most of these will be in use in 1975, but this must depend upon the progress of individual schemes and the availability of funds.I am informed by my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales that the estimate for Scotland in 1975 is about 130 miles and for Wales about 30 miles respectively.A considerable mileage of high standard dual carriageway roads is also being built in all three countries.

asked the Minister of Transport how the Government's programme for building further motorways compares with that of Western Germany, details of which are available to him from international sources.

Comparisons with programmes in other countries are misleading because they cannot take full account of different circumstances prevailing in each country.

Railway Electrification (Expenditure)

40.

asked the Minister of Transport what proportion of the money spent on rail electrification since nationalisation has been spent in England, Scotland and Wales, respectively.

During the period 1948 to 1969 inclusive, about —260 million was invested in railway electrifications. Of this. —17 million or 6½ per cent. was spent in Scotland, and none in Wales.

Novel Forms Of Transport

41.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in view of the noise and pollutant qualities of conventional internal combustion engine vehicles, the Government is sponsoring the development of fast-moving passenger-carrying belts, auto-taxis, and other novel forms of transport.

We are examining the technical, economic and environmental features of both the systems mentioned by the hon. Member, as well as of other novel forms of transport.

Driving Tests

42.

asked the Minister of Transport how many men and women failed at the first attempt to pass a motor car driving test in 1969; and how many passed at the second and third attempts.

Information in the form requested is not available on a regular basis. A survey carried out two years ago showed that the proportion of men and women who failed the test at their first attempt in vehicles of Group 1 (most of which were motor cars) was 56·5 per cent. and 63 per cent. respectively. For all candidates, the proportion who passed at the first, second and third attempts was 43 per cent., 29 per cent. and 13 per cent. respectively, but we have no breakdown of these figures between men and women.

Car Rallies

45.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will take steps to strengthen his control over the routes and times of car rally clubs when engaged in car rallies through built-up areas.

Development Areas (Special Fund Grants)

46 and 47.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) by what method he allocates grants from the special fund for additional work in development areas; and if he will make a statement.(2) why the Felling Urban District Council has received no grant during 1968–69 and 1969–70 from the special fund for additional work in development areas.

Allocations are made by the Ministry's divisional road engineers on the basis of proposal from the major highway authorities bearing in mind that the primary purpose of these special funds is to generate additional employment in selected areas.Felling Urban District Council received an allocation of —8,000 in 1968–69, not all of which was spent. Sums available in 1969–70 did not permit as wide a distribution and no allocation was made to Felling bearing in mind that the labour force in the area was likely to benefit from the grants made to Newcastle and Gateshead.

Farnley Ring Road, Leeds

48.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps he has taken since 22nd July 1969 with the local authorities to deal with the increasing danger on the Farnley Ring Road, particularly at Butt Lane, Tong Road and Stonebridge Lane; and what report was made by his Department's Road Safety Unit to the Leeds County Borough Council.

My Department's Road Safety Unit has made a report to the council recommending measures to improve safety on this length of road. As a result, the council has provided two lengths of double white lines to prevent overtaking and is about to advertise a proposal for a 40 m.p.h. speed limit. A number of other measures are planned, including the re-siting of bus stops and other street furniture and the provision of bus draw-ins. The cutting back of vegetation which obstructs visibility is also proceeding.The council, on its own initiative, has also erected other warning signs.

National Exhibition Site, Birmingham (Motorway Access)

49.

asked the Minister of Transport what additional motorways provision he is to make in respect of the National Exhibition Site, south of Birmingham, including access from M6, M5, and M1; and what further links by motorway will be required for this exhibition site.

None. The site will be well served by motorways already under construction and in preparation.

M11 Motorway

50.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the present timetable for the commencement and completion of the M11 motorway.

A11, Epping

51.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans are at present under consideration to improve the A11 road where it passes through Epping urban district.

As my hon. Friend is aware, the main proposal is to improve the junction of A11 with A122. Following a number of objections, a new layout has been designed, and revised draft proposals are now being prepared. Further south a number of small traffic management measures are planned.

Port Development, River Tyne

52.

asked the Minister of Transport what plans are to be put in operation for maintaining and expanding the finances and employment on the River Tyne.

Roads Expenditure, Northern Region

53.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will give the figures for public investment in roads in the Northern Region for each of the last 10 years.

The amount of public money invested in new and improved roads in the Region (excluding land costs) has been as follows:

Financial Year£ million
1963–64………8·8
1964–65………9·4
1965–66………6·9
1966–67………16·0
1967–68………25·5
1968–69………38·0
Figures for earlier years are not readily available. This year we expect the corresponding total to reach —45 million.

Sunderland By-Pass

54.

asked the Minister of Transport what is his estimate of the number of men likely to be employed on the construction of the Sunderland By-pass.

Beverley South-West By-Pass

55.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will now give a date for the start of work on the Beverley South-West By-pass.

I cannot give a date until we have received the information referred to in my reply to the hon. Member on 9th December.—[Vol. 793, c. 61.]

Humber Bridge

56.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement about the progress of discussions on the financing of the Humber Bridge.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston upon Hull, West (Mr. James Johnson) on 17th February.—[Vol. 796, c. 70–71.]

A1, Gateshead (Fly-Over)

57.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the progress of the Gateshead A1 fly-over, including the total cost, amount of grant from the Exchequer and amount from the local authority, and the approximate date of completion.

This scheme is estimated to cost £3·7 million. Grant assistance of approximately —2·8 million will be paid, leaving £0·9 million to be met by the local authority. Work is so far on schedule and due to be completed by mid-1971.

60.

asked the Minister of Transport what is his estimate of the number of men employed on the construction of the Gateshead A1 flyover; and, of the percentage employed, how many are in permanent residence in the Tyneside travel-to-work area.

About 230 men, of whom four-fifths live permanently in the Tyneside travel-to-work area.

Bridport By-Pass

58.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware that the inability of his Department to decide between three alternative bypasses or relief roads for Bridport is holding up building on these routes, that 13 years have now elapsed since the schemes were first mooted, and that housing accommodation for the elderly is being postponed; and when he expects to reach a decision.

It is hoped to publish draft proposals for the route of the bypass by Autumn this year.

M4 (Surface)

59.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will take immediate action to reduce the danger from flying stones on the Buckinghamshire section of M4, and to devise means of improving road adhesion other than top-dressing with loose chippings.

Drivers on the M4 should observe the warning signs and advisory speed limits exhibited from time to time by the police, who are keeping the condition of the surface under close observation. Studies of the problem are continuing.

Road Works, Derbyshire

61.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will review the allocation to the Derbyshire County Council of funds for minor works.

We are satisfied that Derbyshire County Council receives a fair share of the funds which we allocate for minor improvement works on principal roads. Funds for highways expenditure on non-principal roads and for maintenance work on principal roads are made available through the rate support grant.

British Railways (Crewe-Glasgow Electrification)

62.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has now reached a decision on the proposals of the British Railways Board for the electrification of the main line between Weaver Junction and Motherwell.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement I made in the House yesterday.—[Vol. 796, c. 822–7.]

asked the Minister of Transport if he has yet arrived at a decision on the proposed electrification of the main line from Crewe to Glasgow.

I would refer the hon. Members to the statement I made in the House yesterday.—[Vol. 796, c. 822–7.]

Transport Systems (True Costs)

63.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will undertake a study of the true costs of each form of transport; and if he will make a statement.

My Ministry is already carrying out a large number of studies into the costs of each form of transport, and if I feel it is necessary for any further studies to he carried out these will be undertaken.

Bus Undertakings (Drivers' Hours)

64.

asked the Minister of Transport what action he is taking to ensure public passenger transport services are maintained when drivers' hours are reduced as a result of the Transport Act 1968.

I have laid before the House the Order and Regulations necessary to provide for exemptions as indicated in my reply of 27th January to my hon. Friend the Member for Nuneaton (Mr. Leslie Huckfield).—[Vol. 794, c. 289.]

Road Works (Colliery Filling Material)

65 and 68.

asked the Minister of Transport (1) if he will take steps to ensure that specifications for new roadworks will require underfill to be obtained from pit heaps wherever possible; and whether he will consult with the National Coal Board about supply and costs;(2) what steps he is taking to ensure that underfill for new motorways and roadworks is provided from pit heaps; and if he will make a statement.

Specifications for works on roads, for which my right hon. Friend is the highway authority, permit the use of colliery shale as filling material. The only shales which have been excluded are those which are physically or chemically unstable.Following consultation with the National Coal Board on supply, costs and chemical stability a Technical Memorandum was issued in September, 1968. This explained the conditions under which unburnt shales are acceptable and gave encouragement to the use of colliery shales for common filling. The degree of use of shale is dependent on its price, compared with the available alternatives and the choice of acceptable filling material rests with the contractor.

Motorway Service Areas

66.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make it a condition of any future motorway service area concessions that basic facilities shall be available for 24 hours a day every day of the year.

Yes, but my right hon. Friend will reserve the right to vary hours of opening in special circumstances.

School Crossings (Attendants' Signs)

67.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take steps to introduce for the use of school crossing attendants signs equipped with a red flashing light, for use in darkness or bad light.

Demonstrations of prototypes have shown that putting a flashing light on these portable signs would confuse drivers rather than help them identify the message on the sign, including the obligation to stop. Illumination by a steady white light, as permitted by the regulations, is both safer and more reliable. In addition, local authorities can reflectorise the surface of the sign and, at difficult sites, can add flashing amber units to the patrol warning sign.

Driving Instructors

69.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a regulation that any persons who wish to instruct another in driving a vehicle must have held a driving licence themselves for at least two years.

No. The holding of a driving licence for at least four years is one of the requirements for enrolment in the Register of Approved Driving Instructors. We have no evidence that to impose a condition that those who accompany learner drivers should have held a driving licence for at least two years would contribute to road safety. A similar condition related to instruction, as distinct from supervision, would be virtually unenforceable.

Motorways (Noise)

70.

asked the Minister of Transport what studies he is currently making about the effect of motorway noise on adjacent householders; and if he will publish such studies.

Various studies on the environmental effects on noise, including motorway noise and the effects of noise on households, are under way or proposed. It will be some time, perhaps a year, before the results can be compared and related, and we will be considering the question of publication later.

Pensioners (Concessionary Bus Fares)

71.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give a general direction to the National Bus Company to carry out an assessment of the financial effects of the operation of concessionary bus fares for pensioners.

No. Local authorities which use their discretionary powers to arrange for these travel concessions on non-municipal bus services are required to reimburse to the operator the cost which he incurs.

Railway Workshops

72.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the current annual turnover, profit and return on capital employed of British Railway Workshops; what percentage of turnover is for work outside British Railways; and how much for export.

I would ask the hon. Member to await publication of the British Railways Board's annual report and accounts for 1969, which is expected in early June and will be laid before the House.

Roads, Exeter-Penzance

73.

asked the Minister of Transport what are his proposals to extend the M5 motorway from Exeter to Plymouth and Penzance; and by what date this will be completed.

None. We expect dualling of the A38 between Exeter and Plymouth to be substantially completed by the mid-1970s. Proposals for the route from Plymouth to Penzance are included in the published Green Paper "Roads for the Future" on which no decisions have yet been taken.

M5 Birmingham-Exeter

74.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the total mileage of the proposed M5 motorway between Birmingham and Exeter; how much of this is open to traffic; how much is under construction; for how much have contracts been placed; for how much tenders have been invited; for how much of the remainder has a line been confirmed or proposed; and by what date will the whole length he completed.

170 miles, composed as follows:

Miles
Open to traffic40
Under construction (contracts let)75
Line advertised35
Line not yet advertised20
170
There is at present no invitation to tender outstanding.We hope the route will be completed as far as Huntworth in 1974.It is too soon to give firm completion dates for the remaining sections, but it is planned to have them completed or under construction by the mid-1970's.

Railway Services Cambridge-St Ives

75.

asked the Minister of Transport whether, in deciding to sanction the closure of railway passenger services between Cambridge and St. Ives, he took into account the affinity between those places increasing through Cambridge becoming a unitary authority whose area included St. Ives.

The maintenance of the railway passenger services could not be justified by this possible development.

Vehicle Tests

76.

asked the Minister of Transport, in the year ended 31st December, 1969, how many vehicles, by category and in total, including passenger cars and heavy goods vehicles, respectively, were tested under the Ministry of Transport vehicle testing schemes; how many in each category, and in total, failed; what was the percentage of failure; and how these figures compare with the previous year.

During 1969 8,832,498 vehicles were tested under the car testing scheme. Of these 7,781,424 were cars, 614,061 motor cycles and 437,013 light goods vehicles. 2,752,506 (31 per cent.) failed to pass the test when initially submitted, comprising 2,449,923 (32 per cent.) cars, 151,353 (24 per cent.) motor cycles and 151,230 (24 per cent.) light goods vehicles.During 1968 7,935,936 vehicles were tested. Of these 6,881,094 were cars, 686,556 motor cycles and 368,286 light goods vehicles. 2,385,879 (30 per cent.) failed to pass the test when initially submitted. Of these 2,098,707 (30 per cent.) were cars, 159,474 (23 per cent.) were motor cycles and 127,698 (33 per cent.) were light goods vehicles.During 1969 the statistics concerning heavy goods vehicles were kept in terms of the number of tests and re-tests conducted on vehicles at Ministry testing stations, and not in terms of the number of vehicles tested. A vehicle which was re-submitted for a test was recorded as two tests. Out of a total of 534,243 tests, 160,258 (30 per cent.) resulted in the testing station not being able to issue a test certificate because of the presence of defects.Since the scheme did not start until 1st October, 1968, in England and Wales and 1st December, 1968, in Scotland, no comparative figures are available for 1968.

Bradford (Roads)

asked the Minister of Transport what plans he has for the improvement of access by road to Bradford, Yorkshire, particularly through Shipley town centre.

It is hoped to publish draft proposals for the Aire Valley route between Bradford and Skipton before the end of the year. This will provide a by-pass of Shipley town centre.

Road Programme, Portsmouth

asked the Minister of Transport what is the current value of expenditure on the road programme in Portsmouth; whether he will initiate discussions with the City Council on the delays in implementing the Commercial Road Tidal-Flow System; and whether he will make a statement.

The value of current expenditure on the road programme in Portsmouth, taken as the total value of grants authorised and likely to be authorised for principal road schemes in the city during the financial year 1969–70, is —507,329.The divisional road engineer has been in close communication with the City of Portsmouth Engineer at all stages of the development of the tidal flow system, the equipment for which, because of its highly specialised nature, has taken longer than expected to manufacture and instal. The contractors have to satisfy the City Engineer that the equipment is working correctly, and tests are continuing. The system will be brought into operation when the present equipment and circuit faults have been rectified, allowing time for public advertisement.

Road Building Contracts

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give particulars of the 12 firms which have received, in aggregate, the greatest value of road building contracts of over —100,000 for principal roads, as distinct from trunk roads and motorways, in the past three years, and the total value of the contracts received by each.

Principal roads are primarily the responsibility of the local highway authorities concerned. The information requested is not readily available and could only be provided at disproportionate expense.

Tadcaster By-Pass

asked the Minister of Transport (1) on what date he anticipates that work on the ground will start in connection with the proposed Tadcaster by-pass on the West Riding of Yorkshire section of the A64 trunk road;(2) how many stages are involved in the preparation, planning and implementing of major road schemes; and which of these stages has now been reached by the proposed Tadcaster by-pass on the A64 trunk road in Yorkshire and the West Riding of Yorkshire.

There are six main stages—preliminary investigations leading to inclusion in the preparation pool; preliminary report; firm programming; completion of statutory procedures including land acquisition: financial approval to works commitment and invitation of tenders and award of contract. The preliminary report for the Tadcaster by-pass is in preparation. It is too early to forecast a date for start of construction.

Driving Tests, Stockport

asked the Minister of Transport how many driving tests were carried out in the county borough of Stockport in 1963, 1964, 1968 and 1969, respectively.

10,100 in 1968 and 8,149 in 1969. I regret that figures for 1963 and 1964 are no longer available.

A1 (Accident Rate)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give the fatal and injury accident rate per million vehicle-miles for the non-motorway sections of the Great North Road Al, in the North Riding of Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire and Huntingdonshire, respectively, for the latest convenient period.

I regret that the information is not at present available but I will write to the hon. Member when it is.

Road Network, South Humberside

asked the Minister of Transport what is the present position of the project feasibility study of the trunk and principal road network of South Humberside; when he expects that this will be completed; and whether, in view of the effect of this study on road transport efficiency in the area, he will take steps to expedite the work.

The final results are expected before the end of the year, but I hope to receive advance information within the next few weeks, which should enable me to take decisions about schemes already planned on the A.18.

Urban Road Traffic (Flow)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is aware of the growing difficulties of the free flow of traffic on the roads and streets in big cities in general and London in particular; and what recent action he has taken, or intends taking, to speed up the flow of road traffic.

This year I expect to provide over —75 million grant towards improvements on urban roads, including those in London. I intend to encourage the development of an expanding urban road programme during the 1970's. I am also encouraging local traffic authorities to use their now very wide powers for traffic management not only to ensure efficient use of the roads but also in the interests of road safety and amenity.

Breathalyser Tests

asked the Minister of Transport if he will now make a further statement on his policy towards amending the present arrangements for breathalyser tests.

Together with my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary, I am continuing to keep a close watch on the working of the Road Safety Act.

Anglo/Italian Road Haulage Quota

asked the Minister of Transport what was the outcome of the recent discussions with the Italian authorities on the Anglo/Italian road haulage quota; and if he will make a statement.

The Anglo/Italian road haulage arrangement provides for a mutual waiver of licensing formalities and for a quota to be fixed limiting the number of journeys to or through each country. The arrangement came into force on 1st November 1969, and the quota originally provided for 2,400 journeys per annum by each country's hauliers together with a temporary arrangement permitting 75 journeys per month by each country's hauliers on the road/rail service.Following the recent discussions, the Italian authorities have agreed to an increase in the general quota to 3,000 journeys per annum together with a quota of 1,200 journeys per annum on the road/ rail service. These quotas will apply during the calendar year 1970.Her Majesty's Government remain convinced that quota systems are a hindrance to international traffic and will continue to press for their abolition.

Housing And Local Government

Thames Barrage

77.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will make a statement on the recommendations of the committee he set up under the chairmanship of Lord Kennet, with special reference to the setting up of a tidal barrier in the River Thames, and the plans for developing and cleansing the river and providing recreational and swimming facilities above the barrier.

I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to the answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Woolwich, East (Mr. Mayhew) and the hon. Member for South Angus (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne) on 3rd February.—[Vol. 795, c. 69.]

Sewage Disposal

78.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what improvements have been made by sewage disposal authorities since he issued Circular No. 37/66; what other action he is planning; and if he will make a statement.

The circular and its accompanying memorandum gave advice to river authorities and local authorities in circumstances where standards for effluent more restrictive than those of the Royal Commission on Sewage Disposal were appropriate. River authorities have for some years past, both before and since the issue of the circular, required more restrictive standards in appropriate cases and I expect that they will need to do so more often as the re-use of river water increases. As my hon. Friend knows, the Department is currently undertaking in collaboration with the river authorities a River Pollution Survey. The survey will show us what more needs to be done.

79.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many local authority sewage disposal authorities have applied for grants or loans during the last three years for the purpose of pumping a greater volume of untreated sewage into rivers or the sea; how many applications were refused on grounds of pollution; whether alternative sewage disposal schemes have been proposed for the coastal and river districts; and if he will make a statement.

In the past three years only one authority has applied for loan sanction for a new sea outfall discharging untreated sewage. Its scheme provided for the extension and duplication of a small outfall from which untreated sewage had been discharged for 25 years without giving rise to offence or complaint. Loan sanction was issued. No applications have been received for loan sanction for new out-falls to rivers for untreated sewage. Several hundred loan sanctions have been issued for treatment works.

Urban Motorways (Pollution)

80.

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government if he will now take steps to provide compensation for householders affected by noise, dust, dirt and other forms of pollution emanating from urban motorways.

As the House is aware, we are reviewing the compensation code relating to the acquisition of land for new development, but I cannot anticipate the outcome.

Lewisham And Deptford (Rate Rebates)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how many persons in the London Borough of Lewisham have benefited from rebates under the Rating Act, 1966, in each year subsequently; what was the value of the rebates; and how this compares with rate relief granted under the Rating (Interim Relief) Act, 1964, to the Metropolitan Boroughs of Deptford and Lewisham.

The figures for rate rebate are as follows:

Number of rebate recipientsAmount granted in rebate
YearFirst periodSecond periodFirst periodSecond period
1966–67…3,7354,22839,67743,394
1967–68…3,7413,71040,61240,757
1968–69…3,4943,84236,41942,028
The figures for rate relief under the Rating (Interim Relief) Act, 1964, are:

YearLocal AuthorityNumber of recipientsAmount of relief
£s.d.
1964–65Deptford MB12130
Lewisham MB3362130
1965–66Lewisham LB438580
1966–67Lewisham LBNilNil
1967–68Lewisham LBNilNil

Wolverhampton (Rate Grants)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the total amount paid from Government sources to the County Borough of Wolverhampton in rate support grants and their equivalent in each of the past seven years; and what is the estimated sum payable in 1970–71.

The total amount of the rate support grants, or their equivalents, for the county borough of Wolverhampton for each of the years 1963–64 to 1969–70 and the estimated amount payable for 1970–71 are as follows:

£
1963–64……2,013,928
1964–65……2,105,816
1965–66……2,462,603
1966–67……4,950,650
1967–68……5,766,863
1968–69……6,276,372
1969–70……7,391.190
1970–71……8,040,949
The amounts for 1963–64 to 1965–66 are not comparable with those for later years because the extension of the borough with effect from 1st April, 1966, increased the population by about threequarters.

Dudley (Rate Grants)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the total amount paid from Government sources to the County Borough of Dudley in rate support grants and their equivalent in each of the past seven years; and what is the estimated sum payable in 1970–71.

The total amount of the rate support grants, or their equivalents, for the county borough of Dudley for each of the years 1963–64 to 1969–70, and the estimated amount payable for 1970–71 are as follows:

£
1963–64……879–835
1964–65……890–452
1965–66……1,070,158
1966–67……3,298,315
1967–68……3,653,619
1968–69……4,072,131
1969–70……4,617,778
1970–71……5,025,868
The amounts for 1963–64 to 1965‒66 are not comparable with those for later years because the extension of the borough with effect from 1st April, 1966, almost trebled the population.

Chislet Colliery

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what plans he has for the future use of the land at Chislet Colliery.

This is best considered in the first instance by the National Coal Board and Kent County Council, as local planning authority. I understand that they are already in consultation.

Road Schemes (House Values And Amenities)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what estimate he has made of the number of houses whose value and amenities have been reduced by the construction of urban motorways and trunk roads over the past 10 years.

The information on which to base such an estimate is not available, especially in relation to a period during which property values have been influenced by a wide variety of factors.

Bootle

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what is the total amount paid from Government sources to Bootle County Borough each year from 1963–64; and what is his estimate for the year 1970–71.

The information for the years from 1963–64 to 1968–69 is as follows:

£
1963–64……2,292,153
1964–65……2,504,710
1965–66……2,854,194
1966–67……3,127,887
1967–68……3,175,473
1968–69……3,102,398
The amounts for the years 1967–68 and 1968–69 are not entirely comparable with those for earlier years because the police grant, which amounted to £148,334 in 1966–67, was not paid to the county borough council from 1st April, 1967, when responsibility for the service was transferred to the Liverpool and Bootle Police Authority.For 1969–70 and 1970–71 the latest estimates of rate support grant amount to £2,925,048 and £3,157,497 respectively, compared with £2,673,473 for 1968–69. Corresponding estimates for the remaining grants are not yet available.

Housing Subsidies (Kingston-Upon-Hull)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government how much has been received by the City Council of Kingston upon Hull in Government housing subsidies yearly since 1963–64; and what is his estimate of the amount for the current year 1969–70 and for 1970–71.

The housing subsidy payments made to the City Council of Kingston upon Hull in respect of housing provided by them under the Housing Acts have been as follows:

£
1963–64……390,427
1964–65……458,639
1965–66……520,699
1966–67……579,377
1967–68……712,473
1968–69……757,994
1969–70……910,738

The amount to be paid in 1970–71 will depend on the number of new dwellings completed, and the claims for 1967 Act subsidy submitted by the council during the year, and cannot be reliably estimated at this stage.

Tower Blocks (Local Authority Grants)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government whether he will introduce legislation to enable the courts to determine the proportion of grant payable to local authorities involved in Ronan Point-type disasters.

No. The rate of Exchequer assistance, if any, in such circumstances is a matter of Government policy.

Stockport (Housing Subsidies)

asked the Minister of Housing and Local Government what was the amount of housing subsidies paid to the county borough of Stockport in each of the past five years.

The housing subsidy payments made to the Stockport County Borough Council in respect of housing provided by it under the Housing Acts have been as follows:

£
1965–6……184,027
1966–7……246,444
1967–8……321,971
1968–9……323,688
1969–70……353,075

National Finance

Members' Pensions

81.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the effect of the Government's National Superannuation Scheme on the Members' pensions scheme.

We are considering this matter. Any proposals involving the changes in the arrangements for Members' pensions will be discussed through the usual channels and presented to the House in due course.

Blackcurrant Products (Purchase Tax)

82.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the yield in purchase tax on blackcurrant products in the last convenient year; whether this tax is levied on the products made from imported fruit at the same rate as that made from homegrown fruit; and what is the tax yield from each type of fruit.

Blackcurrants enter into various products subject to purchase tax, such as beverages, confectionery and proprietary medicines. The rates of tax are the same whether homegrown or imported fruit is used. The yield attributable to blackcurrant products is not available.

WAGES AND SAPARIES
(Number of Persons)
Range of Wage of Salary and Percentage
Region£1275–£499%£500–£999%£1,000–£1,499%£1,500 and over%Total%
Northern216,700 20·1479,60044·5298,90027·882,1007·61,077,400100·0
Yorkshire and Humberside404,70021·7791,30042·5526,80028·3138,9007·51,816;600100·0
East Midlands254,60020·1529,40041·8368,10029·1114,0009·01,266,100100·0
East Anglia110,80020·6260,00048·4125,70023·440,9007·6537,300100·0
South East1,226,70017·42,620,20037·12,115,10029·91,102,40015·67,064,300100·0
South West252,00020·3563,00045·3308,50024·9118,0009·51,241,400100·0
West Midlands406,00020·1733,60036·2654,80032·3230,60011·42,025,000100·0
North West518,50020·91,021,60041·1697,30028·1244,8009·92,482,300100·0
England3,390,00019·36,998,80039·95,095 20029·02,071,60011·817,555,600100·0
Wales156,70020·2318,70041·1227,80029·372,9009·4776,100100·0
Scotland392,40022·8729,40042·4446,30026·0152,2008·81,720,300100·0
(1) Only the individual's main wage or salary is included. Subsidiary earnings and earnings from other sources are not taken into account.(2) The information is derived from the annual incomes survey for 1967–68. Reliable information below the effective tax exemption limit of £275 p.a. is not available. The lowest income limit has therefore been taken as £275.(3) Because of rounding there may be an apparent slight discrepancy between the sum of the items and the totals as shown.

Paymaster-General's Orders (Unit Cost)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the average unit cost of a payment made by Paymaster-General's order.

About 6d. This is expected to fall appreciably when the Department's computer is in full operation.

Family Allowances

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the level of family allowance, tax free, that

Wage And Salary Earners

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table listing the number of wage and salary earners in the following groups, £250 to £499, £500 to £999, £1,000 to £1,499 and over £1,500 in Scotland, England by region and Wales, and the percentage of total incomes in each area that fall within each group.

Following is the latest available information:—could be paid to the first child, on the basis that the child tax allowance for that child were abolished and replaced by family allowance.

European Economic Community

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated cost to the Exchequer of raising social security benefit to cover the increased cost of food indicated in the White Paper, on the basis of the United Kingdom joining the European Economic Community.

The White Paper "Britain and the European Communities —An Economic Assessment", Cmnd. 4289, indicates a range of possible increases in food costs, which would be spread over a transitional period, the length of which cannot be forecast. A precise estimate of the cost to the Exchequer of raising social security benefit to cover the increased cost of food is therefore impossible. But, for illustrative purposes, to compensate for a 1 per cent. increase in the retail price index increases on current rates of benefit of the following annual order of cost would be required.

£
Supplementary Benefits2·3
War Pensions1·1
National Insurance and Industrial Injuries Benefits25·0
Total28·4
Of the total cost of £28·4 million approximately £8 million would be the cost to the Exchequer.

Mail (Opening)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many items of mail were opened, under the powers contained in the Exchange Control Act, 1947, and in customs legislation, in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and what were the comparable figures in each of the previous five years.

Computer Centre, Portsmouth

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by what date he expects the new Inland Revenue Computer Centre in Portsmouth to be fully operational.

Sickness And Unemployment Benefits (Taxation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the revenue which will arise from terminating the exemption of sickness and unemployment benefits from liability to tax, and of the cost of collecting tax on such benefits.

House Of Commons

Questions

83.

asked the Lord President of the Council whether, in the further consideration of the Question roster, he will arrange to allot an opportunity every fortnight during the remainder of the Session for asking Questions relating to Scotland.

I am satisfied that there are adequate opportunities for Scottish Questions.

Employment And Produtivity

Bristow Inquiry

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what is her policy towards the report of the Bristow inquiry.

My right hon. Friend is considering the Committee's recommendations in the light of the many representations made to her by organisations outside the port transport industry who might be affected.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will estimate the effect of United Kingdom membership of the European Community on the Retail Prices Indices for Pensioner Households on the basis of the data pepared for Command Paper No. 4289, Great Britain and the European Community.

Paragraph 29 of Command Paper 4289 indicates that the maximum increase in food prices which might result from entry into the European Communities would be of the order of 18–26 per cent., but that increases would only be incurred gradually over a number of years and would be less if the present gap between the United Kingdom, world and Community prices narrowed before entry and during the transitional period. A maximum rise foreseen would raise the special indices for pensioner households by about 10 per cent. owing to the greater importance of food in the expenditure of pensioner households. As Ministers have stated, any significant increase would call for special arrangements to deal with the effect on the standard of living of pensioners.

New Towns

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will produce a table showing, separately, the number of unskilled and semi-skilled male manual workers employed in each of the new towns and in Glasgow; and what proportion, expressed as a percentage, each of those groups bear to the insured male population in each case.

Railway Industry (Carmarthenshire And Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity how many persons are employed in Carmarthenshire and in Wales, respectively, in the railway industry; and what was the number employed 20 years ago.

The estimated number of employees in Carmarthenshire in railways (minimum list heading 220 of the 1948 edition of the Standard Industrial Classification and 701 of the 1958 edition) at

NUMBERS REGISTERED AS WHOLLY UNEMPLOYED
19691970
Employment Exchange AreaJan.Feb.Mar.Apr.MayJuneJulyAug.Sept.Oct.Nov.Dec.Jan.
Canterbury606628575603562532473518557550580617734
Herne Bay and Whitstable645687665677607571529589570638659668742
Margate1,4301,3841,3441,1859726786447127831,2471,3301,3991,446
Ramsgate and Sandwich1,3691,3841,3621,2581,1279118721,1041,1411,2101,3701,4831,583
Deal499477446438388380344382388443487520578
Dover715713606619504450407505480644683685679
Folkestone and Hythe8979539398087106916397326728309461,0351,064
Gravesend964868891855790727718838862844854943971
Chatham2,0321,9121,9231,8161,7041,5111,5671,7731,9251,8161,8971,9672,311
Sittingbourne and Faversham593572517470423420413552474462518627667
Sheerness502547482482420353346404346406445453490

Carmarthenshire

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity what was the number of male registered employees in Carmarthenshire in 1950; and what is the number today.

June 1950 and June 1968 (the latest date for which information is available) were 2,500 and 800 respectively. The corresponding figures for Wales were 36,300 and 14,500.

Construction Industry Training Board

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity why she approved the revised proposals submitted to her by the Construction Industry Training Board.

I was satisfied that the Board had made reasonable changes to take account of the various representations made by the industry on the original proposals.

Southern Region

asked the Secretary of State for Employment and Productivity if she will publish figures to show the number of persons, wholly unemployed in the following areas, Canterbury, Herne Bay/ Whitstable, Margate, Ramsgate/ Sandwich, Deal, Dover, Folkestone/ Hythe, Gravesend, Chatham/Medway, Sittingbourne, Faversham, and Sheerness, for each month of 1969 and for January 1970.

The estimated numbers of male employees in employment in Carmarthenshire at June 1950 and June 1968 (the latest date for which information is available) were 40,700 and 33,100 respectively.

Home Department

Motorists (Blood Samples)

85.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he has given official publicity to the method of extraction of blood from the thumb in cases of alleged drunken driving; and whether motorists required to provide samples of blood for analysis will continue to be required by doctors to provide a blood sample from the arm.

Whether venous or capillary blood should be taken, and where from, are matters to be settled between the motorist and the doctor. I have not heard that any great difficulty arises in practice, and my right hon. Friend has not arranged publicity on the subject.

Commonwealth Immigrants (Deportation)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons have been deported under the Commonwealth Immigrants Act, 1962, in each year since the passing of that Act.

The figures are as follows:

Commonwealth wealth citizenscitizens of the Irish RepublicTotals
1962 (July-Dec.)5595150
1963105152257
196493140233
196595161256
196682171253
196772183255
1968100177277
1969192200392

Northern Ireland

86.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to extend to Northern Ireland the proposed communications network throughout England, Wales and Scotland, in order that the Royal Ulster Constabulary may share the advantage of access to records on the central computer complex.

The possibilities are now being discussed with the Northern Ireland authorities, who have been kept in touch with the development of the project.

Under-Secretary Of State's Office (Telephone Calls)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will cause an investigation to be made to ascertain why, on two occasions between 9 a.m. and 9.45 a.m. on Wednesday 11th February the hon. Member for West Ham, North was in formed for there were no Ministers or others in authority in the Under Secretary's office present to receive a telephone call, and that those in authority do not normally arrive before 10 a.m.

No. Adequate arrangements exist for messages to be taken from 9 a.m. onwards.

Downham Fire Station

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from the South Lewisham Young Socialists regarding the proposed closure of Downham fire station; and what reply he has made.

The Secretary and a member of the South Lewisham Young Socialists have written to my right hon. Friend objecting to a proposal by the Greater London Council to close Down-ham fire station and asking him to receive a deputation. They have been told that a fire authority may not close a fire station without my right hon. Friend's approval; that no proposal for the closure of Downham fire station has yet been submitted; and that he can therefor make no comment at this stage.

Board Of Trade

Ballykelly And Sydenham Airports

87.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what civil aircraft have been making proving flights into Ballykelly; by what companies they are owned; what type of aircraft was used; and with what result.

There have been no recent proving flights by civil aircraft into Ballykelly.

88.

asked the President of the Board of Trade what civil aircraft have been making proving flights into Sydenham; by what companies they are owned; what type of aircraft was used; and with what result.

One proving flight by a Trident 2 aircraft has been carried out by British European Airways who have reported that with some minor improvements to technical facilities Sydenham should be operationally suitable for use by their Trident, Vanguard and Viscount aircraft.

asked the President of the Board of Trade, when considering alternative or diversionary airports in Northern Ireland, what estimate he has formed of the number of days in each year upon which the airfields at Ballykelly and Sydenham are fog and industrial-haze free, respectively; and on how many occasions in the past 12 months up until 18th February it has been impossible to land an aircraft at each one.

Meteorological data are not readily available in the form requested. I am having such information as is available collated and will write to the hon. Member. I am, however, advised that both airfields would be acceptable in these rôles from the aspect of weather.

Third London Airport (Thurleigh Site)

asked the President of the Board of Trade whether, in view of the decision of the Roskill Commission to substitute a third completely new alignment of runways for the Thurleigh site for London's third airport, he will instruct the Commission to hold a new Stage II Inquiry in Bedford and compensate out of public funds the costs of those who gave evidence in the original Stage II Inquiry last September.

This is a matter for the Commission on the Third London Airport but I understand that the Commission made it plain at Stage II that changes were to be expected in the light of the detailed studies at Stage III and this is what has happened. I understand that the question of the alignment and layout will be open to testing during the forthcoming Stage V hearing.

Manufactured Goods

asked the President of the Board of Trade (1) if he will state the free-on-board value of total United Kingdom exports of manufactured goods to Commonwealth countries during the calendar year to 31st December 1968 or the fiscal year ended 4th April 1969;(2) if he will state the cost, insurance and freight value of United Kingdom imports of manufactured goods from each of the six countries of the European Economic Community during the calendar year to 3l st December 1968 or the fiscal year ended 4th April 1969;(3) if he will state the cost, insurance and freight value of United Kingdom imports of manufactured goods from the six countries of the European Economic Community during the calendar year to 31st December 1968, or the fiscal year ended 4th April 1969;(4) he will state the cost, insurance and freight value of United Kingdom imports of manufactured goods from Commonwealth countries during the calendar year to 31st December 1968 or the fiscal year ended 4th April 1969;(5) if he will state the free-on-board value of total United Kingdom exports of manufactured goods to the six countries of the European Economic Community during the calendar year to 31st December 1968 or the fiscal year ended 4th April 1969.

Information on manufactured goods (Sections 5 to 8 in the trade statistics) for the year 1968 is published in Volume 1 of the Annual Statement of Trade of the United Kingdom: imports, pages 220–1, exports (including re-exports), pages 250–1.

Daily Telegraph (Price Increase)

asked the President of the Board of Trade by what authority he requires prior notification of an increase in the price of the Daily Telegraph in excess of 1d. in the current year, or prevents any such increase with or without prior notification.

Under the prices and incomes policy, the managements of the Daily Telegraph and of other national newspapers agreed in 1965 to give my Department early warning of proposed price increases and the arrangement has operated on this voluntary basis.

Local Government And Regional Planning

Royal Commission On Environmental Pollution

89.

asked the Secretary of State for Local Government and Regional Planning how many of the members appointed to serve on the Royal Commission on Environmental Pollution are either mechanical, civil, aeronautical, nuclear or soil engineers; what engineering experience they have had in the design and construction of engines, road vehicles, aircraft, power stations, nuclear installations, sewage plants, waste destruction plants or any engineering which emits pollution; and if he will make a statement.

Mr. Iliff is a Chemical Engineer and has had experience in the operation of chemical plants. It is not practicable to provide in a body of this kind for the representation of all branches of the professions concerned; but the membership of the Commission offers a wide range of relevant experience which can be supplemented by evidence and advice as required.

Noise Advisory Council

asked the Secretary of State for Local Government and Regional Planning what are his present proposals for a noise advisory council; and if he will make a statement.

In accordance with the Prime Minister's announcement in the House on 11th December, 1969, I have now established an Advisory Council on Noise with the following terms of reference:"To keep under review the progress made generally in preventing and abating the generation of noise, to make recommendations to Ministers with responsibility in this field and to advise on such matters as they may refer to the Council."

I, or another Minister, will preside over the Council which will have within its ambit all aspects of noise prevention and abatement within the limits set by security considerations in the defence field.

The following have so far accepted invitations to serve on the Council:—

  • Mr. H. Archer, F.R.S.H., F.A.P.H.I. Mr. J. Bugler.
  • Dr. K. Campbell, M.A., M.D., LL.B., D.P.H., L.M.
  • Professor B. L. Clarkson, B.Sc., Ph.D. Mr. E. Epson.
  • Mr. H. R. Featherstone, F.C.I.S., Assoc.Ins.T.
  • Mr. R. Foster, O.B.E.
  • Dr. H. H. Gardner, B.Sc., C.Eng., F.R.Ae.S.
  • Mr. D. Gladwin.
  • Mr. D. B. Harrison, LL.M.
  • Mr. E. M. Kean.
  • Professor G. M. Lilley, M.Sc.(Eng.), D.I.C., C.Eng., F.R.Ae.S., M.I.Mech.E., F.LM.A.
  • Professor R. H. Macmillan, M.A., C.Eng.
  • Dr. E. J. Richards, 0.B.E., M.A., D.Sc., C.EngF.R.Ae.S., F.I.Mech.E. Professor M. Roth, M.D., F.R.C.P., D.P.M.
  • Sir Hilary Scott.
  • Mrs. S. Stern.
  • Dr. H. P. Stout, B.A., Ph.D., F.T.I., A.Inst.P.
  • Dr. W. Taylor, B.Sc., Ph.D., M.D., M.R.C.P. (Ed.)
  • Mr. S. Williams.

Rhodesia

asked the Prime Minister whether he is aware that the illegal Smith régime in Rhodesia has broken off all allegiance to the British Crown and as from April will declare itself a Republic; and whether he will now withdraw all offers of a settlement with this illegal regime and give an assurance that only a new regime owing declared allegiance to the Crown will be allowed to negotiate any settlement with Her Majesty's Government.

I am aware that the illegal regime in Rhodesia will shortly purport to assume a republican status. On the subject of a negotiated settlement, I have nothing to add to what my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs said in the House on 16th October.—[Vol. 788, c. 618–20.]

Scotland (Economic Planning)

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister if he will take steps to streamline economic planning in Scotland by reducing the number of departments with head offices outside Scotland who have Scottish functions.

The number of departments concerned with these matters has been reduced following the

Board or CommitteeNumber of members
Central Advisory Council for Science and Technology12, including Chairman.
Inquiry into Civil Service Manpower8, including Chairman.
Inquiry into Government Industrial Establishments6, including Chairman. In addition, certain Departments are represented by civil servants.
National Economic Development Council17, excluding Ministers and the Director-General of the N.E.D.O.
Review Body on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration7, including Chairman.
Security Commission7, including Chairman.
Standing Advisory Committee on the Pay of the Higher Civil Service.6, including Chairman.

Northern Region

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if he will give an assurance that he will at an early date receive a deputation from the North Eastern Development Council to discuss the growing unemployment in the Northern Region of England.

I have been in touch with the Council and explained why I do not think that a useful purpose would be served by a meeting at this time.

Ex-Ministers (Appointments)

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of public concern, he will end the practice of his Administration of appointing ex-Ministers to jobs financed wholly or in part from Government funds, whilst at the same time allowing these persons to receive salaries and fees from private industry, which gives rise to conflict of interests.

The practice of this Administration in making appoint- changes in the machinery of government which I announced on 13th October, 1969.—[Vol. 788, c. 31–5.]

Boards And Committees (Appointments)

asked the Prime Minister if he will give a list of the boards and committees to which he appoints Members other than Ministers or civil servants; and if he will state the number of Members serving on each such board or committee.

The following is the information:ments is to choose the best person for the job in all cases. On the principle relating to private employment, I would refer to my reply to a Question by my hon. Friend on 6th May, 1969.—[Vol. 783, c.

69.]

Environmental Pollution

asked the Prime Minister if he will advise that consumer interests should be adequately represented when the Royal Commission on Pollution of the Environment is appointed.

The composition of the Royal Commission, which I announced on 17th February, is intended to provide a well-balanced and experienced membership, which is qualified to seek information and give advice on all aspects of pollution as they affect the whole community, including consumers.—[Vol. 796, c. 98–9.]

Prime Minister (Speech And Bbc Interview)

asked the Prime Minister (1) if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech at Camden Town Hall on entry into the Common Market on Saturday, 21st February;(2) if he will place in the Library a copy of the transcript of his interview on entry into the Common Market on the British Broadcasting Corporation's radio programme, World This Weekend, on Sunday, 22nd February.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

European Economic Community

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will tabulate the current United Kingdom prices of the different types of cheese specified in Table 7 of Command Paper No. 4289 on Great Britain and the European Community alongside other European country prices as a basis for comparison, from information available to him from international sources.

Continental varieties of cheese of the kind quoted in table 7 of the White Paper comprise a very small proportion of total United Kingdom cheese purchases and retail prices representative of the country as a whole are not available. However, a number of commercial quotations suggest that prices in the United Kingdom are broadly the same as those given in the White Paper.

Salmon

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food from information available to him from international sources, what was the size of the salmon catch, by number and by weight, taken in 1969 in coastal fisheries

United KingdomCanadaIrelandU.S.A.NorwaySwedenIcelandDenmark
38180022101
These figures are provisional.Numbers and nationalities of boats operating off Greenland for the purpose of salmon fishing:

DenmarkFaroesNorwaySweden
186112
These figures are provisional, and it is not know how many Greenland boats took part in the fishery.

and in international waters, respectively, off Greenland; how this compares with catches in recent years; and if he will make a statement.

The total catch for 1969 is estimated at 2,200 metric tons, of which about 900 tons were caught by set gill nets and about 1,300 tons by drift nets. Catches taken by the two methods no longer correspond with catches taken in the coastal fishery and in international waters respectively, as they did in the years prior to 1969, for which figures are shown in the following table:

Coastal FisheryInternational Waters
Metric tonsNumber (estimated)Metric tonsNumber (estimated)
1964…1,539485,00000
1965…825260,0003611,000
1966…1,251394,00011937,000
1967…1,283406,000318100,000
1968…579182,000548172,000
1969…2,200 Total Weigh
667,000 Total Number (estimated)

53.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give the 1969 figures for each of the three tables published on 26th January, 1970, relating to salmon fishing off the Greenland coast and in international waters off Greenland.

The figures are:Numbers and total weight of salmon taken:

Numbers (estimated)Weight (metric tons)
667,0002,200
It is estimated that about 900 metric tons were caught by set gill nets and about 1,300 metric tons by drift nets. Catches taken by these two methods no longer correspond with the catches taken in the coastal fishery and in international waters and a breakdown on this basis is no longer possible.Numbers of tagged salmon caught off Greenland and where tagged:

Veterinary Field Service

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what steps are being taken to implement Recommendation 8, Group (ii), of Part 2 of the Northumberland Committee Report on the Outbreak of Foot-and-Mouth Disease in 1967–68;

(2) by how many officers the Veterinary Field Service is under strength;

(3) what steps are being taken to recruit officers to the Veterinary Field Service.

Discussions on future recruitment to the Veterinary Field Service were already in progress when the Northumberland Committee reported, and the Committee's observations and recommendation are being taken into account in these discussions. Meantime a team of veterinary officers from the Department have recently visited all veterinary schools with a view to interesting students in careers in the State Service, These measures are designed to encourage recruitment to fill the current 43 vacancies in the Field Service complement of 442 permanent professional posts. Meantime, wherever appropriate, the Department is making additional recourse to the fee-paid services of veterinary surgeons in private practice who are on the Department's panel of Local Veterinary Inspectors. The future structure of the Veterinary Field Service and the Veterinary Investigation Service is currently under consideration.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many veterinary officer recruits took up posts in the Veterinary Field Service in 1969; and what was their average age.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the wastage rate in the Veterinary Field Service during 1969 through death, resignation and retirement.

Education And Science

University Students

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what figures or estimates are available to him concerning how many parents of university students from whom a parental contribution is expected in fact make the expected contribution.

Universities (Failure Rates)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what studies have been made by his Department into comparative failure rates between universities and between faculties and departments within universities; and if he will make a statement.

The University Grants Committee published in 1968 a report of its "Inquiry into Student Progress" showing, by university and by subject group, the numbers and proportions of students expected to obtain a first degree in 1965–66 who in fact did so; did so after an extra year; or left without obtaining a degree. Developments since then were described by the University Grants Committee in its annual surveys for 1967–68 and 1968–69 (Cmnd. 3914 and 4261).

University Students, Scotland (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the annual cost of educating a university student in Scotland in 1969; what were the equivalent figures for the preceding five years; and how the cost compares with the United Kingdom average.

I regret that this information is not available. This is because it is difficult to allocate expenditure between education and research for Scottish universities alone.Such figures as are available are to be found in the annual "Returns from Universities and University Colleges" and in "Statistics of Education 1966 and 1967, Volume 6 'Universities'". The 1968 version of this latter volume is now being prepared.

School Building (Cost Limits)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement on the results of the meeting on 27th January between the Minister of State and the representatives of the Metropolitan Architectural Consortium for Education regarding the cost limits for school building.

I am sending the hon. Member a copy of the statement issued by the Department after the meeting.

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will give the number of men and women teachers trained each year for the past 10 years, and the numbers leaving teaching each year, respectively; if he is satisfied with the action taken to encourage married

Academic Years
1958–591959–601960–611961–62*1962–63
Men………4,5735,4465,9952,9406,072
Women………10,66311,31011,6273,76910,888
Total………15,23616,75617,6226.70916,960
Academic Years
1963–641964–657965–661966–671967–68
Men………6,4936,7557,4928,3559,451
Women………12,07313,37715,33517,78221,731
Total………18,56620,13222,82726,13731,182
* The "year of intermission" following the lengthening to three years of the normal college of education course.
QUALIFIED TEACHERS LEAVING MAINTAINED PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS*
Year ending 31st March
1958–591959–601960–611961–621962–63
Men………3,2503,4734,2044,9045,449
Women………13,91014,63915,940 20,14417,04517,455
Total………17,16018,11220,11421,94922,904
Year ending 31st March
1963–641964–651965–661966–671967–68
Men………5,9936,8657,1067,5948,261
Women………19,33820,63620,14321,80822,551
Total………25,33127,50127,24929,40230,812
* Includes those transferring to other educational posts. Further details are available in Statistics of Education 1967, Vol. 4, tables 9 and 23–25.
More married women returned to full-time teaching between 2nd February, 1969 and 1st October, 1969 than in the corresponding period in any earlier year. It is now accepted as normal that married women, if they leave teaching for family reasons, should return to make a second career as their children grow up.

Public Building And Works

Labour-Only Sub-Contracting

asked the Minister of Public Building and Works what measures he proposes to take to control the develop-

women teachers to remain in or return to the profession; and if he will make a statement.

Students successfully completing courses of initial teacher training (general, specialist, and postgraduate courses, excluding courses in colleges of education (technical) and art teacher training centres).ment of labour-only sub-contracting in the construction industry; and when he intends to discuss these with representatives of the industry.

A Bill will shortly be introduced which will provide for the registration of those contractors who fulfil the statutory and other financial obligations of employers in the construction industry and who have adequate employers' liability insurance. The legislation will empower the Minister to require a payment from any person who engages an unregistered contractor to undertake a sub-contract involving the performance of construction work; the payment will be related to the statutory charges such as the contributions to the National Insurance Fund, the Redundancy Fund, the N.H.S. and S.E.T. which he would have incurred had the work been undertaken by his own direct employees. Further measures will be announced which will greatly strengthen and improve the collection of income tax.I have arranged to meet representatives of the

  • National Federation of Construction Unions
  • Civil Engineering Construction Conciliation Board (Operatives' Side)
  • National Federation of Building Trades Employers
  • Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors
  • Federation of Master Builders
  • Federation of Associations of Specialists and Sub-Contractors
  • Committee of Associations of Specialist Engineering Contractors

to discuss these proposals during the course of this week.

Scotland

Population

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what net increase in the population of Scotland will be required during the current calendar year to fulfil the prediction of 5·3 million contained in paragraph 21 on page 7 of Command Paper No. 2864; and how such an increase will compare with the actual population changes in each of the previous five years.

Since the reference to "about 5·3 million" was not a prediction, but an indication of possible order of population size, given certain assumptions, no question of fulfilling it arises. The Government's objective was a reduction in net emigration. Against the rising trend of net emigration which this Government inherited, a reduction took longer to develop than had been hoped, but is now well under way.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made to date towards fulfilment of the prediction of a 13,000 increase in the population of Dundee contained in paragraph 238 of Command Paper No. 2864.

The figure of 13,000 was not a prediction but an estimate, related to the year 1984, made by Dundee Corporation for the purposes of their Development Plan.

Social Services

Abortion Operations

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average time spent in private clinics and National Health Service hospitals, respectively, when a patient is aborted; and if he will make a statement.

Up to last September the median time was between one and two days in approved places and between five and six days in National Health Service hospitals in England and Wales. As notifications must be made within seven days of the operation, and the length of stays over seven days is therefore not known, no average can be calculated. The length of stay is affected by the clinical decision of the doctor in charge of the case and by the severity of the operation. A higher proportion of complicated cases are treated in National Health Service hospitals.

Hospital Admissions (Gateshead)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people are on the waiting list for admittance to hospital within the Gateshead and district area; and what steps are being taken to reduce this number.

1,056 on 31st December, 1969. The Newcastle Regional Hospital Board has plans for the major development of Queen Elizabeth Hospital as a district general hospital and is considering whether augmentation of staff can provide more immediate relief.

Gateshead And District General Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects work to commence on Phase 3 of the Gateshead and District General Hospital.

The Newcastle Regional Hospital Board expects Phase III of the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Gateshead, to be one of the later developments in the region. I cannot be more specific about its timing.

Prescriptions (Gateshead)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average number of prescriptions issued

Average number of prescriptions per person on doctors' National Health Service prescribing listsAverage total cost per person on doctors' National Health Service perscribign lists
GatesheadEnglandGatesheadEngland
November, 1968…0·5370·4646s.6d.5s.4d.
November, 1969…0·4810·4286s.4d.5s.5d.

Technology

Beagle Bulldog Aircraft

asked the Minister of Technology what special financial and other arrangements and agreements have been reached between Her Majesty's Government and the Royal Swedish Government in respect of the latter Government's paid deposit and orders for a number of Beagle Bulldog aircraft.

asked the Minister of Technology what is the present whereabouts of the sole existing Beagle Bulldog aircraft; and whether this prototype has flown.

The prototype Beagle Bulldog aircraft is currently undergoing flying trials with the Swedish Air Force.

asked the Minister of Technology why, in view of the bankruptcy of the wholly-owned Beagle Aircraft 1968 Limited, it is now proposed to transfer the manufacture of the sole relict of that company, the Beagle Bulldog Aircraft, to another company, Short Brothers and Harland, in which Her Majesty's Government have a majority holding.

Manufacturing Investment

asked the Minister of Technology if he will publish a table showing the annual average increase from 1964 to 1969 in manufacturing invest-

per person in Gateshead during November 1969 and November 1968; and what was the average cost of doctors' prescriptions issued per person in Gateshead during November 1969 and November 1968, together with the national average for like periods.

The information is as follows:ment in the United Kingdom at 1961 prices, taking 1961 as 100.

The average annual increase between 1964 and 1969, at 1961 prices, was approximately —48 million; taking 1961 as 100, the level of investment, at 1961 prices, has been:—

1961100
196292
196381
196491
1965101
1966104
1967101
1968104
1969 (provisional estimate)111

Machine Tool Industry

asked the Minister of Technology if he will publish a table showing the annual average increase in the value of the output of the United Kingdom machine tool industry at 1961 prices, taking 1961 as 100, between 1964 and 1969.

There is no official series available for publication, at present, giving the annual average increase in the output of the United Kingdom machine tool industry at constant prices. A series in current value terms is available from the Board of Trade Business Monitor (ref. P.64).

Gas Boards (Staff Dismissals)

asked the Minister of Technology if he will give a general direction to the gas boards to include in their annual reports statistics of the numbers of their staff who have been dismissed.

European Economic Community

asked the Minister of Technology if he will publish a table showing the average annual increase, as a percentage, in manufacturing investment of all the European Economic Community and the European Free Trade Association countries, between December, 1964 and December, 1967, from information available to him from international sources.

The table below shows the average annual percentage increase, at current prices, between 1964 and 1967 in investment in the manufacturing and construction industries which, subject to the exceptions noted, is the basis on which comparable information is available.

EUROPEAN ECONOMIC COMMUNITY
West Germany………-0·8
France*………6·9
Italy†………1·8
Belgium‡………12·4
Netherlands†………7·3
LuxembourgNot available
EUROPEAN FREE TRADE ASSOCIATION
United Kingdom………6·3
Sweden………10·6
Norway………16·2
Denmark?………4·4
Austria||………1·5
Portugal………14·2
SwitzerlandNot available
*Including fishing and the quarrying of building materials.
† Including mining and quarrying and gas, electricity and water; the United Kingdom figure on this basis is 8·6 per cent.
‡ Including gas and steam production and car dealers; excluding the cutting of stone.
§ Excluding handicrafts and construction.
||Including mining and quarrying.

Natural Gas (Conversions)

asked the Minister 0of Technology if he will list each of the individual Gas Boards which have completed their natural gas conversion programmes, or are still undertaking them, together with the number of complaints they have each received from individual consumers about inadequate conversion work.

All Area Boards have begun their programmes except the Scottish and South Western Boards which are due to begin this year. Information in the form asked in the second part of the question is not readily available, but at present, on average about 1 in 5 of all conversions require some further attention.

asked the Minister of Technology if he will list those major cities of England and Wales which have already been converted to natural gas; and if he will state the latest approximate date when the nationwide conversion programme will have been completed.

Cambridge is the largest city which has so far been completely converted to natural gas. For most consumers the conversion should be completed by 1975, but the completion of the whole programme may take a further 3 to 5 years.

asked the Minister of Technology whether, in view of the number of complaints being made about unsatisfactory natural gas conversions, he will appoint a senior member of his permanent staff to co-ordinate and review the nationwide operation.

No. We are in close touch with the industry on the programme, but responsibility for its coordination and for keeping it under review lies with the Gas Council.

asked the Minister of Technology if he will give a general direction to the gas boards to ensure that where workmen are required to call back to individual natural gas conversions on a number of occasions because of unsatisfactory working, the customer should not be charged for this service, irrespective of the time which has elapsed since the conversion took place.

No. I am informed that area boards do not set a time limit to the period during which follow-up service, clearly attributable to conversion, is carried out free of charge.

asked the Minister of Technology whether he will give a general direction to the gas boards to arrange for a special leaflet to be compiled and distributed to all households converted to natural gas usage, explaining how supplies of the new gas can be adjusted, so that individual consumption is not increased as compared with town gas formerly used for the same household functions.

No. I am informed that a Gas Council booklet on the use of appliances converted to natural gas is being prepared and will be available to area boards for distribution to their consumers.

Electricity Supply Industry (Reorganisation)

asked the Minister of Technology when the Bill for the reorganisation of the electricity supply industry will be presented.

Concorde

asked the Minister of Technology if he will publish a table showing the dates when each airline subscribed to positions on Concorde.

The position is as follows:

Date of option signature
B.O.A.C…(November, 1962)*
Air France…(June, 1963)*
Pan American…June, 1963
Air Canada…March, 1967
Air India…July, 1964
American…January, 1964
Braniff…September, 1966
Continental…July, 1963
Eastern…June, 1966
Japan Air Lines…September, 1965
Lufthansa…February, 1967
Middle East Airlines…November, 1963
Quantas…April, 1964
Sabena…December, 1965
Trans World Airlines…October, 1963
United…June, 1966
* B.O.A.C. and Air France have not signed option agreements as such, but expressed their intentions about purchases of Concorde at these dates.

Employment, Ne Kent

asked the Minister of Technology whether he is aware of the high unemployment in the North-East Kent coastal region from Gravesend to Dover; and what plans he has to attract employers into this area on a limited scale to provide the necessary jobs.

The attraction of employers into the area is a matter for local initiative. Sympathetic consideration is given to applications for industrial development certificates and office development permits.

Chislet Colliery

asked the Minister of Technology what action he proposes to take with a view to finding a new industrial user for Chislet Colliery site and buildings.

I am informed that the question of the future land use of the colliery site is at present under discussion between the N.C.B. and Kent County Council.

Advance Factories, Carmarthenshire (Employment)

asked the Minister of Technology how many men and women, respectively, are employed in the Board of Trade advance factories that have been built in Carmarthenshire since 1964.

Three advance factories authorised since 1964 have been completed in Carmarthenshire; one of these is occupied but I regret that I am unable to disclose the numbers employed because it is contrary to our practice and would transgress undertakings given to firms.

Wales

Forests (Control Of Foxes)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will require the Forestry Commission to ask the Economic Forestry Groups in Wales to intensify their efforts to eliminate foxes in their plantations.

No. The Forestry Commission is responsible for controlling foxes on its own estates but not elsewhere. Like other occupiers of land, members of the Economic Forestry Group have the same responsibility. In default, the exercise of enforcement powers under Section 98 of the Agricultural Act, 1947, will be considered by the county agricultural executive committees, where appropriate.Grants are available to Fox Destruction Societies which cover most of the hill areas of Wales and advice on fox control is available from the pests officers of the Ministry of Agriculture who will take every suitable opportunity of persuading members of the Economic Forestry Group to join in organised action against foxes.

Towy Bridge, Carmarthen

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when he intends building a second bridge over the Towy at Carmarthen.

I added a Carmarthen Southern By-pass, including a new crossing of the River Towy, to the trunk road preparation pool in October, 1968. I hope to publish draft Orders for the scheme in the spring of 1971 and to begin work as soon as the statutory processes have been completed and land acquired. I am also discussing with the local authorities interim arrangements which can be introduced to improve traffic flows at the river crossing before this year's tourist season starts. Work on Section "C" of the Carmarthen Diversion is due to start next month.

Carmarthen-West Dual-Carriageway Road

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give a starting date for the dual-carriageway road which is to be built from Carmarthen to the West.

Work is about to start on the Carmarthen Diversion Section "C" which will provide about 11 miles of new dual-carriageway road for traffic between Carmarthen and St. Clears. I also added a St. Clears By-pass, most of which will be dual carriageway, to the trunk road preparation pool in July, 1969. Apart from that I have nothing to add to the replies given to the hon. Member on 2nd November, 1967, and 8th February, 1968. —[Vol, 753, 15–16; Vol. 758, c. 230–1]

Ministry Of Defence

Channel Islands (Royal Engineers)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table setting out the tasks carried out in the Channel Islands by the Royal Engineers in 1968, specifying in relation to each task the number of officers and men employed, the total cost of their pay and allowances, the other costs involved, and the amount recovered by his Department.

Alderney

  • Demolition of a water-tower.
  • Construction tradesmen's work in old people's homes, including in some cases laying of foundations to damp-course levels.
  • Concrete work and resurfacing of jetty in harbour.
  • Work on BRAYE slipway.
  • Rehabilitation in civil defence bunker.
  • Repair and improvement in hospital.
  • Road repair and trackway construction.
  • The unit concerned was 3 Squadron of 3 Division Engineers, consisting of 6 officers and 144 men.

Jersey

  • Three metal frame bridges 50–60 ft. long.
  • Three timber frame bridges 20–30 ft. long.
  • The unit concerned was 8 Field Squadron of 3 Division Engineers, consisting of 6 officers and 134 men.

Guernsey

Work started on Beaucette Quarry, full details of which have been supplied to my hon. Friend.

In the cases other than Beaucette Quarry the troops were employed on work in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table setting out in July 1968. The cost of pay and allowances was —11,000. All materials were supplied by the public authorities and there were no extra costs which would not have arisen in the normal course of training. No charges were therefore made.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will now publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT an itemised financial account for the blasting of Beaucette Quarry, Guernsey, by the Royal Engineers.

The information requested is as follows:—

£
Use of Army Department transport1,200
Use of Army Department equipments and material.3,315
Movement of personnel and equipment630
Other items including accommodation765
Total5,910

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether, in view of the fact that the Channel Islands do not contribute to the upkeep of the Services, he will in future require the civil authorities there to reimburse his Department in full for any tasks, save acts of mercy, carried out in the Islands.

No. I am satisfied that charges raised should be related to the training value of the tasks performed.