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Volume 820: debated on Thursday 1 July 1971

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday, 1st July, 1971

Employment

School Leavers

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans the Government have for finding employment for school leavers who will be seeking jobs at the end of July.

Careers officers have been canvassing employers for vacancies for school leavers and will do all they can to help them find suitable employment. While this may take longer this year, I am hopeful that in most areas the vast majority will have found employment within a few months of leaving school.

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is aware of the lack of employment for school leavers in Swindon; what steps he intends to take to improve job availability for young people leaving school at the end of the present term.

Although vacancies for young people in Swindon are fewer than last year, careers officers have been canvassing employers for some time and are doing all they can to help the summer term leavers find jobs. I am hopeful that the great majority will be placed within a few months of leaving school.

Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Limited

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he is taking to help men, made redundant by the closure of the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders, to find employment.

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what he is doing to help those made redundant at Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Limited to find alternative employment; and what estimate he has formed of the speed with which these steps will take affect.

Urgent action is in hand to ensure that my Department will be ready to give every possible assistance to any workpeople affected.

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what he estimates the effect would be on employment in Lanarkshire of a rundown in the activities of Upper Clyde Ship builders Limited.

As the extent of any possible rundown is unknown, no such estimate can be made.

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will state what repercussions the closure of any Upper Clyde Shipbuilders yards will have on the employment position in Kirkcaldy.

If there are any redundancies of workpeople in Kirkcaldy resulting from the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders position, the full facilities of my Department will be available to give assistance to those affected.

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what discussions he or his Department have had with the management of Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Limited in the last three months.

My right hon. Friend has had no discussions with the management of Upper Clyde Shipbuilders during the past three months, but there have been meetings with senior officials of my Department at local level.

Merseyside

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the present level of unemployment on Merseyside; and what further action his Department are now taking to assist in reducing it.

At 14th June the provisional rate of unemployment for the Merseyside development area was 5 per cent. All the facilities of my Department's employment and training services will continue to be available to those who need help.

Glasgow

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will pay an official visit to Glasgow.

I have no plan to do so at present, but I hope an opportunity will arise in the future.

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the total number of male unemployed in Glasgow at the latest available date; and how the figures compare with the figures a year earlier.

The numbers of males registered as unemployed in the Glasgow travel-to-work area were 32,013 at June, 1971, and 22,920 at June, 1970. The figure for June, 1971, is provisional.

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list all the redundancies notified to his Department affecting firms in Glasgow with the numbers involved, since 18th June, 1970.

Information supplied to my Department by individual employers is usually provided for official use only and I should not feel justified in publishing it. Redundancies recorded in Glasgow since 18th June, 1970, have involved a total of 11,200 employees.

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what he is doing to help those requiring employment opportunties in Glasgow and the West of Scotland; and what success he is having.

My Department's employment officers in these areas are making every effort to assist by providing information and advice about job and training opportunities. In many cases where major redundancies have taken place special job teams have visited factories for this purpose before employment has terminated. In the last year we have placed 73,000 people in these areas.

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many vacancies existed for male employees in Glasgow at the latest available date, and what percentage this represented of the male unemployed in Glasgow at the same date.

At 9th June 1,669 vacancies for males remained unfilled in the Glasgow travel-to-work area and there were 5·2 vacancies per hundred males registered as wholly unemployed. The statistics, which are provisional, relate only to vacancies which were notified to my Department and do not purport to measure the total unsatisfied demand for labour.

Stalybridge And Hyde

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the unemployment figures registered in the employment exchange areas of Stalybridge and Hyde for 18th June 1970, and 18th June, 1971.

At June, 1970, the numbers registered as unemployed in the areas covered by the Stalybridge and Hyde employment exchanges were 212 and 469. The provisional figures for June, 1971, were 334 and 698.

Shipbuilding

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the total numbers employed in shipbuilding in Scotland at the latest available date; and how they compare with the figures for five and 10 years earlier, respectively.

The estimated number of employees in employment in Scotland in shipbuilding and ship repairing at June, 1970, June, 1965, and June, 1960, were 33,300, 35,600 and 43,600 respectively.

Unemployment

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement about the latest figures for unemployment published by his Department.

Between May and June the provisional total number of persons registered as unemployed in Great Britain fell by 30,363 to 724,658 and the percentage rate was down from 3·3 to 3·2 per cent. of all employees.

Clydebank

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the total number and percentage of males unemployed in Clydebank at the latest available date; and how the figures compare with those a year earlier.

The numbers of males registered as unemployed in the area covered by the Clydebank employment exchange were 2,376 at June, 1971, and 1,522 at June, 1970. At these dates the percentage rates of male unemployment in the Glasgow travel-to-work area, which includes Clydebank, were 9·5 and 68. The figures for June, 1971, are provisional.

Dunbartonshire

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list all the redundancies affecting firms in Dunbartonshire notified to his Department since 18th June, 1970; and give the numbers involved.

Information supplied by individual employers is usually provided for official use only and I should not feel justified in publishing it. Redundancies recorded in Dunbartonshire since 18th June, 1970, have involved a total of 3,200 employees.

Employment Services

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the reorganisation of the employment services.

I am actively considering plans for the future development of the services in the context of a fundamental review of manpower policies and expect to announce decisions in the autumn.

Wigan

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the level of unemployment in the Wigan area, and how it compares with the same date in the previous four years.

The percentage rates of unemployment for the Wigan travel-to-work area were 4·4 in June,

NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED IN THE AREA COVERED BY THE PLYMOUTH, DEVONPORT, GUNNISLAKE, PLYMPTON AND SALTASH EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGES
MenBoysWomenGirlsTotal
June, 19682,08637522431,688
June, 19692,33760436332,866
June, 19702,63673483753,267

Cornwall

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he is taking to counteract the unemployment position at Redruth where there are now

1971, 3·0 in June, 1970, 2·7 in June, 1969, 2·9 in June, 1968, and 2·5 in June, 1967. The figure for June, 1971, is provisional.

Triplex Safety Glass Factory, Willesden

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many workers are to be made redundant by the closure of the Triplex Safety Glass factory in Willesden.

Triplex has notified my Department that 322 employees are to be made redundant.

Industrial Dispute, Yorkshire (Conciliation)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what requests he has received from the Clerical and Administrative Workers' Union for his assistance in conciliation in a dispute over the dismissal, by a firm in Yorkshire whose name has been supplied to him, of a member of the union.

Following a request from the Clerical and Administrative Workers' Union, my Department met a representative of the union and then approached the company, which has so far declined to discuss the matter with the Department. Officers of my Department are continuing their efforts to arrange discussions with the company.

Plymouth

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the numbers of unemployed men, women, girls and boys in Plymouth and district in June, 1968, 1969, 1970 and 1971.

The information is as follows:1,579 unemployed, including 1,103 on short-time working; at Falmouth where there are 510 unemployed, including 32 on short-time working; and at Camborne where there are 513 unemployed, including two on short-time working; in view of the fact that the Camborne numbers are now 85 per cent. higher than those of June, 1970.

My Department's local officers will continue to do all they can through the employment and training services to help people who are seeking new jobs.

Germany (British Workers)

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what facilities he has arranged for British workers to take employment in Germany; how many workers have emigrated for that purpose; and what type of employment they have taken.

Arrangements are being made with the Federal Institute of Labour for vacancies with West German firms to be circulated to employment exchanges in this country and for interested British workers to have full information about conditions of employment in West Germany, on 30th January last about 15,000 British workers were known to be employed in the Federal Republic, mainly in engineering and service industries.

Wages And Prices

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what has been the movement in wages and prices over the last 12 and 24 months, respectively.

During the 12 and 24 months periods ending in April, 1971, wages and salaries rose by 11·9 per cent. and 23·5 per cent., and retail prices by 9·4 per cent. and 15·6 per cent. respectively.

Hairdressing (Training)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the opportunities for training within the haidressing profession, with the number of apprentices on day release and with the maintenance of standards generally now that the training board has been disbanded; and if he will make a statement.

I do not claim to be satisfied on the points the hon. Lady raises, but my right hon. Friend came to the conclusion that a statutory industrial training board for the hairdressing industry was not the right means of dealing with them. I hope that both sides of the industry will work for improvements on a voluntary basis, and in this my Department and also the Education Departments will be ready to give any help they can.

Unemployment

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT all the employment exchange areas where the unemployment percentage is 7·3 per cent. or above.

Following is the information:

Employment exchange or travel-to-work areas with rates of unemployment of 7·3 per cent. or more at 10th May, 1971
London and South Eastern
Deal.Sheerness.
Eastern and Southern
Hunstanton.Wisbech.
South Western
Camelford.St. Ives.
Helston.Ilfracombe.
Liskoard*.
Yorkshire and Humberside
Mablethorpe.Hemsworth*.
Bridlington.Dinnington.
Northern
Millom.Blyth.
Amble.Whitby.
Bedlington.Hartlepools*.
Wales
Milford Haven.Bargoed*
Blaenau Ffestiniog.Holyhead*
Pembroke Dock.Llandudno*.
Caernarvon*.
Scotland
Sanquhar.Stornoway.
Newton StewartDingwall*.
StranraerKilsyth.
Lerwick.Cumbernauld.
Arbroath*.Lesmahagow.
Campbeltown.Greenock*.
Banff.Irvine*.
Buckie.North Lanarkshire*
Wick.Shotts.
Portree.
* Travel-to-work area. Rates of unemployment can be calculated for the whole of a travel-to-work area but not separately for its constituent parts.

Training Centres (Scotland)

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many places at Government training centres in Scotland were unfilled on the latest available date; and what steps are being taken to fill the vacancies.

There were 363 places unfilled on 22nd June, including 126 in construction trades for which recruitment is restricted owing to the present level of unemployment in the industry. Our local officers are continuing their efforts to recruit suitable trainees for other trades, with particular emphasis on conversion and refresher training for unemployed craftsmen and special courses for sponsored employees.

Guaranteed Week Agreements

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he intends to take to encourage employers and unions to enter into guaranteed week agreements in view of the decision of the Government to stop the payment of unemployment benefit to workers on short time.

As my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Security has already made clear, the Government welcome such agreements negotiated on a voluntary basis.

Brixton

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many men, women and juveniles are registered as unemployed at Brixton employment exchange; and what the corresponding figures were for 1969 and 1970.

In the area covered by the Brixton employment exchange, at June, 1971, there were 2,877 men, 380 women and 89 boys and girls registered as unemployed. The corresponding figures at June, 1970, were 2,653, 317 and 94 and at June, 1969, 2,418, 275 and 91.

Islington

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures relating to the London Borough of Islington's registered unemployed, for school leavers still without jobs, and the number of unfilled vacancies available to school leavers; and what is the estimated number of school leavers requiring employment after the end of the present school term.

In the area which includes Islington there were no school leavers still registered as unemployed in June, 1971, when there were 691 unfilled vacancies for young people. It is estimated that 2,900 young people will be leaving school at the end of the summer term, but it is not yet possible to say how many jobs will then be available for them.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the latest figure for the number of persons under the age of 21 years registered as unemployed in the London Borough of Islington; and what was the figure in June, 1970.

Information for this precise age group is not available, but a detailed age analysis of the registered wholly unemployed made in January and July distinguishes those under 20 years of age. Following is the available information:

Numbers of persons under 20 years of age registered as wholly unemployed in the area covered by the Holloway and Kings Cross Employment Exchanges
January, 1971237
July, 1970229
January, 1970220

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the latest figure for the number of persons registered as unemployed in the London Borough of Islington; and what was the figure in June, 1970.

The numbers of people registered as unemployed in the area covered by the Holloway and Kings Cross Employment Exchanges at June, 1971, and June, 1970, were 2,835 and 2,828, respectively. The figure for June, 1971, is provisional.

Employers' Liability (Compulsory Insurance) Act, 1969

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when the Employers' Liability (Compulsory Insurance) Act 1959 will be brought into operation.

The dates on which the various provisions of the Act will come into force will be specified in the regulations which it is expected to lay before the House within the next few weeks.

Industrial Disputes

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many new industrial disputes took place during the last month for which figures are available and during the previous three months, as compared with the similar periods last year.

Following is the information:

STOPPAGES OF WORK DUE TO INDUSTRIAL DISPUTES: UNITED KINGDOM
Stoppages beginning in period
May, 1971*185
February—April, 1971*512
May, 1970344
February—April, 19701,305
* Provisional.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give the number of strikes, the days lost through strikes and the estimated costs in the year ended 18th June, 1970, as compared with the year ending 18th June, 1971.

The figures are calculated for calendar months. Provisional estimates for the year ended 31st May, 1971, are 2,878 stoppages and 17,337,000 working days lost. Corresponding figures for the year ended 31st May, 1970, are 3,868 stoppages and 8,623,000 working days lost. Official estimates of the cost of lost production are not available.

Redundancies (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what has been the increase in the number of redundancies notified to him among male workers in Scotland in the period January to June, 1971, compared with the corresponding period in 1970.

The figures available show that there was an increase of 8,200 in the number of male workers affected by redundancies notified in the period 1st January to 18th June, this year, compared with the corresponding period in 1970.

Manufacturing Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the total numbers employed in manufacturing industry in England and Wales and Scotland, respectively, on the latest date for which figures are available; and what were the comparable figures over the last 10 years.

At June, 1970, the estimated numbers of employees in employment in manufacturing industries were 7,987,400 in England and Wales and 739,100 in Scotland. Following is a table showing figures for earlier dates:

ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES IN EMPLOYMENT IN MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES IN ENGLAND AND WALES, AND IN SCOTLAND
(Thousands)
Englands and WalesScotland
June, 19607,929·2733·7
June, 19618,050·6742·9
June, 19627,987·9730·5
June, 19637,878·0703·5
June, 1964—
(a)7,986·6717·6
(b)8,010·7720·7
June, 19658,104·2742·5
June, 1966—
(a)8,127·8740·4
(b)8,220·0756·4
June, 19677,969·0731·5
June, 19687,884·8728·3
June, 1969–
(a)7,984·4744·4
(b)7,995·3745·5
NOTES:(1) Estimates for June, 1964(

b) and later dates are on a revised basis of calculation and are not strictiy comparable with those for June, 1964( a) and earlier dates.

(2) Between June, 1966 and June, 1967 the industrial classifications of many establishments were corrected. Estimates for 1966 are shown on both bases, that is ( a) excluding and ( b) including the effects of reclassifications.

(3) The estimates are based on the 1968 edition of the Standard Industtial Classification from June, 1969( b) and on the 1958 edition for June. 1969( a) and earlier dates.

Tuc And Cbi (Meeting)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will arrange a meeting with the Trades Union Congress and the Confederation of British Industry to discuss the ways in which his Department can help persons made unemployed by reductions in firms' labour forces to find alternative work.

I am always very ready to discuss any ideas the C.B.I. and the T.U.C. might have on these services, which are being progressively developed and which now include such techniques as computerised job banks.

Pay

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) which 12 industrial and trade groups in industry have received the lowest increase in wages and salaries during the past 12 months and past 18 months, respectively; and what is their average gross pay now, and the amount of increase in each case.(2) which 12 industrial and trade groups in industry now receive the highest wages and salaries per week; and what is the average gross pay per head per week in each case;(3) which 12 industrial and trade groups in industry have received the highest increase in wages and salaries during the past 12 months and past 18 months, respectively; and what is their average take home pay now, and the amount of the increase in each case;(4) which 12 industrial and trade groups in industry now receive the lowest wages and salaries per week; and what is the average gross pay per week in each case.

Following is a table giving the information requested at the latest available date. Details of increases in pay over the previous 18 months are not readily available because of changes in the industrial classification used:

Industries Covered by Regular Earnings EnquiryOctober, 1970
Full Time Manual Men
Highest Average Cross Weekly Earnings
£
Printing, publishing of periodicals45·96
Printing, publishing of newspapers39·55
Sugar Manufacture36·88
Wheeled Tractor Manufacturing36·63
Port and Inland Water Transport36·28
Air Transport35·66
Mineral Oil Refining34·38
Motor Vehicle Manufacturing33·30
Other printing, publishing, book-binding, engraving, etc.32·52
Insulated wires and cables32·47
Cement Manufacturing32·37
Soap and detergents manufacturing32·23
Lowest Average Gross Weekly Earnings
Repair of boots and shoes20·29
Local Government service20·97
Laundries21·73
Leather goods21·77
Dry cleaning etc21·82
Dress industries not elsewhere specified22·14
Jute Manufacturing22·20
Weatherproof outerwear22·23
Rope, Twine and net manufacturing22·59
Made-up textiles22·62
Brush and broom manufacturing22·62
Overalls and men's shirts, under-wear etc.22·85
Highest increases over previous 12 months
Percentage increaseEarnings October '70
£
Wheeled tractor manufacturing36·436·63
National Government service*27·623·28
Sugar manufacturing27·536·88
Other drink industries‡26·829·87
Port and inland water transport26·136·28
Lubricating oils and greases25·429·33
Manufactured stationery25·130·02
Locomotive and railway track equipmentt†23·628·15
Linoleum, plastics floor covering, leather cloth, etc.23·127·53
Brewing and malting22·729·99
Insulated wires and cables21·832·47
Air transport21·235·66
* Many National Government employees are included under other industries, e.g. engineering.
† Excluding railway workshops.
‡Comprises Spirit distilling and compounding British wines, cider and perry.
Lowest increases over previous 12 months
Industrial engines4·828·10
Hosiery and other knitted goods5·125·85
Toilet preparations5·126·70
Toys, games, children's carriages and sports equipment5·425·89
Electronic computers5·831·08
Miscellaneous stationers' goods6·424·78
Repair of boots and shoes6·620·29
Women's and girls' tailored outerware7·323·90
Office machinery7·727·32
Dry cleaning etc.7·821·82
Hats, caps and millinery8·023·02
Leather goods8·021·77

Redundancy Payments

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what his estimate is of the total redundancy payments to 1,000 men with an average wage of £30 per week and an average length of service of five years in the event of them being declared redundant.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what arrangements are made for redundancy payments in the event of a company going into liquidation.

Employees who are entitled to statutory redundancy payments but cannot obtain them from the company may apply for direct payment from the Redundancy Fund.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the Treaty of Rome and the anticipated conditions of British membership of entry into the European Economic Community as relate to the mobility of labour between the countries of the Six, will apply to self-employed persons on Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether, now that Her Majesty's Government have accepted terms and conditions for Great Britain's possible entry into the European Economic Community, he will state what action he intends to take to increase wage rates in Great Britain to those as now paid in the countries of the Six.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment to what extent equal pay for equal work is applied in the countries of the Six.

Article 119 of the Treaty of Rome requires member countries to apply the principle of equal remuneration for the same work as between men and women workers. Member countries have made some progress, but I understand that the European Commission is currently reviewing the position with a view to recommending further steps towards this end.

Full Employment

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give the number of unemployed, job vacancies, short-time working, on 18th June, 1970, and 18th June, 1971, nationally, and for Scotland, Wales, and the North of England, respectively; and what action the Government have taken, or intend taking, since 18th June, 1971, to improve the position regarding the attainment of full employment.

The Government seek not only to achieve but also to maintain a high level of employment. Their views on the policies needed to secure this objective were fully expressed in the recent debate and I have no further statement to make at this time.The answer to the first part of the Question is as follows:

TOTAL REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED ON
8th June, 197014th June, 1971 (provisional)
Great Britain546,577724,658
Scotland84,131121,647
Wales33,02540,410
Northern Region56,81069,655
VACANCIES REMAINING UNFILLED ON
3rd June, 19709th June, 1971 (provisional)
Great Britain295,501197,649
Scotland18,62912,023
Wales9,7627,370
Northern Region12,9408,816
NUMBER OF OPERATIVES ON SHORT TIME WORKING IN MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY
April June 1970June 1970April 1971
Great Britain51,00032,00090,000
ScotlandNot available
WalesNot available
Northern Region Not available

Note: The figures of unfilled vacancies represent only the number of vacancies notified to employment exchanges and youth employment service careers offices by employers and remaining unfilled on the dates in question. The figures do not purport to represent the total outstanding requirements of all employers.

Code Of Industrial Practice

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what response he has received from the Trades Union Congress General Council to his Code of Industrial Practice; and whether he will make a statement.

I am anxious to receive and consider views on the consultative document from all those concerned with the conduct of industrial relations and the problems of human relations in employment. The T.U.C. has not yet sent me its views but I am very ready to meet it and discuss any changes it would propose.

Education And Science

Welfare Milk

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations she has received from the Durham County Council concerning the withdrawal of free milk in schools; and what replies she has sent.

The Durham County Council has asked me on two occasions not to proceed with the proposal to withdraw free milk from the older primary school children. I have indicated that I am unable to accede to its request.

Students' Unions (Registrar)

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she is now in a position to make a further statement of Government policy on the question of setting up a registrar of students' unions.

Adult Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when the proposals of the Russell Committee upon the future of adult education are expected to be published.

Low-Paid Workers (Grants And Allowances)

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many low-paid workers successfully claimed free school meals, school uniform grants and education maintenance allowances in each quarter in 1970; and what proportion these annual totals represented of the number estimated to be eligible for each of these benefits on grounds of low income.

The Department does not collect information about any of these matters in the form requested.

Residential And Catering Facilities (Abuse)

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will take action to prevent the abuse by unauthorised persons of the residential and catering facilities at educational establishments, which are provided at the taxpayer's expense.

I sympathise with the purport of my hon. Friend's Question, but this is a matter of internal administration for the institutions concerned.

Museums And Galleries (Admission Charges)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) whether the trustees of the national museums and art galleries who already have power to charge are free to use their discretion as to the imposition of entrance charges, despite any request for imposition by Her Majesty's Government;(2) whether the trustees of the national museums and art galleries for whom specific enabling legislation is to be introduced will be free to use their discretion as to the imposition of entrance charges despite any request for imposition by Her Majesty's Government.

As I explained very clearly in reply to the hon. Member's Motion on 21st June, the Government have as a matter of policy decided that there shall be charges.

Education (Milk) Bill

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she has considered the communication from the Education Officer of the London Borough of Newham, sent to her by the hon. Member for West Ham, North, regarding the Education (Milk) Bill; what was the nature of her reply; and whether she will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has considered the views of the Newham Education Committee on the provisions of the Education (Milk) Bill now before Parliament but is unable to accept the suggestiton that the Bill should be withdrawn.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will give details of the amounts of subsidies and payment towards free and cheap meals, milk, etc., which are paid in each of the countries of the Six; to what extent her recent policy of reducing and ending welfare benefits to school children was to harmonise with the practices in being in the countries of the Six; and whether she will make a statement.

The information requested in the first part of the Question is not available in my Department;. but in any case details of this kind were not a consideration in the Government's decisions with regard to new arrangements for the provision of milk and meals in schools.

Dyslexic Children

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether there are any special schools in and around the county of Bedfordshire for dealing with dyslexic children; what provision is made for children affected by dyslexia in areas where special schools do not exist; and whether grants are available to assist children to overcome their disability.

There are no special schools specifically for dyslexic children. Remedial education for children with reading difficulties, including those considered dyslexic, is usually provided in the ordinary school setting; but some local education authorities pay the fees of pupils attending centres run by other organisations or independent schools.

Defence

North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (Film)

58.

asked the Minister of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the request to him by the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation High Command that the showing of the Tyne Tees film on the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation should not be permitted and that the film should be cut from 25 minutes to six minutes to comply with security.

My right hon. and noble Friend and I have seen the film. We are satisfied that the decision on its release remains a matter for the N.A.T.O. authorities.

Stun Gun (Riot Control)

59.

asked the Minister of State for Defence (1) what evaluation tests have been undertaken, or are being undertaken, by his Department as to the suitability of the weapon known as the Stun Gun for use in riot control;(2) when he expects to announce his decision on whether or not to purchase the Stun Gun as a riot control weapon.

Trials are being carried out on the Stun Gun to determine its effectiveness. No decision can be taken before these trials are complete.

Hms "Otter"

61.

asked the Minister of State for Defence what is the contract price for the refitting of H.M.S. "Otter" by Cammell Laird; when they will start on the refit; and when the refit is due to finish and H.M.S. "Otter" due to leave Cammell Laird for work-up prior to rejoining the Fleet.

Details of prices agreed for public sector contracts are not disclosed as they are regarded as confidential to the two parties involved.The "Otter" arrived at Cammell Laird on 24th June and the firm are contracted to complete the refit and re-deliver the boat for work-up in 15 months.

Northern Ireland

asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances the Army investigated a bomb explosion in Drumcliffe Avenue, Bogside, Londonderry, on Sunday, 27th June; what action they took with a crowd who threw stones; and what arrests were made.

In the early hours of 27th June the Army were called on to help to deal with a small group of youths who were stoning the R.U.C. and attempting to erect a barricade in Rossville Street. During the incident a car was damaged in Drumcliffe Avenue by a bomb which exploded under its bonnet. One arrest was made.

asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances a gelignite bomb was thrown at two Army land rovers at the Monagh Road/Springfield Road, Belfast, on Sunday, 27th June; whether the area was sealed off; what searches were made; and what arrests resulted.

At around midnight on 26th–27th June two sticks of gelignite of approximately one pound each were thrown at an Army mobile patrol at the Monagh / Springfield roundabout. Despite a search in the area no arrests were made at the time by the Army.

asked the Minister of State for Defence (1) what searches the Army have made for arms, etc., in various parts of Northern Ireland outside Belfast during the last three weeks; what have been the result of these searches; in what particular areas arms, etc., have been located; and what is the total number of arrests made;(2) what searches the Army have made for arms, etc., in various parts of Belfast during the last three weeks; what the results of these searches have been; in what particular areas arms, etc., have been located; and what is the total number of arrests made.

In the period between 10th and 30th June the Army has continued to search vehicles, buildings, tunnels, bridges and areas of country both within and outside the Belfast area. An aircraft was also searched. In addition to uncovering quantities of ammunition, explosive material and some firearms the searches have made it more difficult for terrorists to mount attacks. The searches have also helped in stressing the importance of strict adherence to regulations regarding the legal use of explosives.

Within Belfast arms, explosive material and ammunition have been found in the Falls, Shankill, Ballymacarrett and Windsor areas. Outside Belfast there have been finds in Londonderry, on the river Bann near Portadown Road Bridge, in Castlederg, and near the following places:

Killeen.Cromlin.
Pomroy.Keady.
Dungannon.Newry.
Dromore.Ballykelly.
Omagh.Derrygonnelly.
Beragh.

The total numbers of arrests by the Army in this period were 32 in Belfast and 15 elsewhere. Of these numbers five in Belfast and six elsewhere related to the illegal possession of explosive substances.

asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances the Army was called to Bearnlagh Drive, Andersanstown, Belfast, after a Royal Ulster Constabulary land rover had been ripped with six bullets from an Irish Republican Army gunman using a fast moving car; whether the area was sealed off; what searches were made; and what arrests resulted.

The Army were informed that shortly before midnight on 24th–25th June a Royal Ulster Constabulary land rover patrol was investigating a traffic accident in Bearnlagh Drive, when a car approached from Glen Road whose occupants fired six rounds into the land rover. The car then drove away in the direction of the motorway. There were no casualties.In the circumstances the sealing off of the area by the Army and the carrying out of searches was not appropriate. No arrests were made by the Army and the identity of the assailants has yet to be established.

asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances the Army were called to the Raven Bar, Ravenhill Road, Belfast, in the early morning of Friday, 25th June after a bomb explosion; at what time the explosion occurred; at what time the Army arrived; what was the result of their investigation; whether the area was sealed off; what searches were made; and what arrests resulted.

Shortly after the explosion, which occurred at 12.30 a.m. on 25th June, Army technical experts made the appropriate safety and forensic searches, the area having first been cleared. These revealed that a charge of two to five pounds of high explosive had been used. No arrests were made by the Army at the time of the incident.

asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances a patrol of the Royal Scots was fired on near Stabane, Northern Ireland, on Sunday, 27th June; what searches were made; and what arrests resulted.

asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances an Army sentry was fired at while doing duty on the roof of Pomeroy Royal Ulster Constabulary Station, Northern Ireland; whether he returned fire; what searches were made; and what arrests resulted.

At 1.30 a.m. on 27th June a vehicle from which shots were believed to have been fired at Pomeroy R.U.C. Station was pursued. Road blocks were also established, but the vehicle has not so far been found.

Hm Dockyard, Devonport

asked the Minister of State for Defence how many of the various categories of jobs in Her Majesty's Dockyard in Devonport are open to recruitment, giving the numbers of jobs available between the present and 1972.

The precise information asked for is not available. Recruitment at H.M. Dockyard Devonport is directly related to the forecast work load which is liable to variation. I cannot say how many jobs will be available, or in which categories, between now and 1972.

Hms "Belfast"

asked the Minister of State for Defence if he will now make a statement on his plans for the future of H.M.S. "Belfast".

Negotiations with the H.M.S. "Belfast" Trust have reached the point at which the Ministry of Defence are prepared to transfer H.M.S. "Belfast" to the Trust for exhibition. A proposal for making the gift will shortly be presented to the House in the form of a Treasury Minute.

Home Department

Albany Prison (Solitary Confinement)

62.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many occasions the penalty of solitary confinement has been imposed on prisoners at Her Majesty's Prison, Albany, Isle of Wight, in the last 12 months.

In the 12 months ended 31st May, the disciplinary penalty of cellular confinement was imposed 24 times, and the power to segregate a prisoner in the interests of good order or discipline was used 30 times.

Abortions (Notifications)

63.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for reports from Chief Constables as to their proposals for conducting police investigations into the possible failure of certain doctors to notify abortion operations, as required by regulations under the Abortion Act, 1967, in such a way as to respect the privacy and confidentiality of the patients concerned.

The police are well aware of the need for discretion when pursuing enquiries of that kind.

Commonwealth Immigrants (Registration)

64.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from the Police Federation or on behalf of the police concerning the registration with the police of Commonwealth immigrants; and whether he will publish the text of such representations.

I received from the hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Alfred Morris) a memorandum prepared by the Police Federation on the Immigration Bill. I will arrange for copies to be put in the Library of the House.

Pop Festival (Arrests)

65 and 66.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable as to how many persons were arrested by police officers at or near the site of the Pilton Pop Festival, Shepton Mallet, between 19th and 25th June, 1971, inclusive; and how many of these arrests were for being in possession of dangerous drugs with intent to sell or distribute them;(2) if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable on how many of the arrests at the Pilton Pop Festival, Shepton Mallet, were for being under the influence of dangerous drugs on private property, for being found in possession of dangerous drugs on private property and for owners of private property allowing dangerous drugs to be possessed or consumed on their property, respectively.

The Chief Constable tells me that 11 persons were arrested, and that eight of these arrests were on suspicion of offences conected with the unlawful possession of controlled drugs.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the chief constable on how many of the arrests at the Pilton Pop Festival, Shepton Mallet, were for promoters of this festival allowing dangerous drugs to be possessed or consumed on the site of this festival.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will call for a report from the chief constable on why police officers were hampered in their duty of searching for drugs by the promoters of the Pilton Pop Festival, Shepton Mallet, and why young persons under the age of 17 were able to enter the site of this festival without any restriction and were offered drugs by strangers; and what action was taken;(2) if he is satisfied that his recommendations to chief officers of police authorities concerning drug offences were carried out satisfactorily at the Pilton Pop Festival, Shepton Mallet; and if he will make a statement.

A report has been called for and I will write to my hon. Friend when I have considered it.

Penal Reform

67.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on the consideration being given by his Department to forms of remedial treatment for offenders involving deprivation of liberty other than imprisonment, Borstal training and detention centres; and when he intends to make proposals for penal reform relative to this matter.

My right hon. Friend is considering a number of possibilities of this kind, but he is not yet ready to bring forward specific proposals.

Mr P F Keane

68 and 69.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether Patrick Francis Keane's extradition from England was on the basis of warrants issued in the Republic of Ireland; on what dates these warrants became available to the British police; and what charges they urged against him;(2) during what period of time Patrick Francis Keane was detained in Her-Majesty's Prisons in this country; whether he was charged with any criminal offence allegedly committed in this country; and whether he was committed or tried on any criminal charge allegedly committed in this country;(3) on what date his Department received from Patrick Francis Keane letters describing the offences that were alleged against him in another jurisdiction, and asking for certain undertakings and making certain offers;(4) what acknowledgment of his letters was sent to Patrick Francis Keane; what substantive replies; and on what dates;(5) whether correspondence between Patrick Francis Keane and his Department was made available to the Government of the Republic of Ireland, their agents or representatives;(6) to what uses correspondence between Patrick Francis Keane and his Department have been put, and in particular, whether the correspondence or parts of it have been released by his Department to any persons;

(7) whether he is satisfied that the legislation governing extradition provides safeguards against authorities in another country seeking backing in Great Britain for warrants alleging criminal offences when political factors are present;, whether, in particular, he is satisfied that in the instance of Patrick Francis Keane this was not the case; and if he will make a statement.

Patrick Francis Keane was returned to the Irish Republic on 2nd March, 1971, on an order of a magistrates' court under Section 2(1) of the Backing of Warrants (Republic of Ireland) Act, 1965, following endorsement by a justice of the peace of warrants of arrest issued in the Republic charging Keane with murder of a police officer in the execution of his duty and with armed robbery. The warrants were received by the police here on 15th May, 1970, Keane having been previously arrested here on a provisional warrant issued on 13th May, 1970. Keane applied for a writ of habeas corpus on the ground that the magistrates had failed to inquire into the merits of the charges and that there were substantial grounds for believing that if returned, he would be prosecuted or detained for another offence, being an offence of a political character. His application was rejected on 21st October, 1970, by the Divisional Court, whose decision was upheld by the House of Lords on 2nd March, 1971. Keane was detained in Brixton Prison from 14th May, 1970, to 2nd March, 1971. He was not charged with any criminal offence allegedly committed in this country.A petition was received from Keane on 3rd June, 1970, asking for political asylum, or for an assurance from the Irish Attorney General that he would not be prosecuted for other offences, being offences of a political character. A reply was sent, which was conveyed orally to him by the Governor on 20th June, to the effect that he should make these points during the court proceedings in this country. No use has been made of this correspondence, and it has not been released to any person other than to the hon. Member herself.My right hon. Friend has no reason to think that the safeguards in the 1965 Act are inadequate. It was for the courts to decide whether the accused person should be handed over to the Irish authorities, and it is not for me to comment on judicial decisions. The Act makes no provision for action or intervention on my right hon. Friend's part.

Benson Report

70.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the Jockey Club supplied him with a copy of the 1968 Benson Report; and whether they have asked him to receive a deputation to discuss proposals for implementing this Report.

Copies of the report were handed to Home Office officials in July, 1968. My right hon. Friend has had no approach from the Jockey Club about the report and no request to receive a deputation.

Royal Family (Security)

71.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give an assurance that adequate steps are being taken to safeguard the person of Her Majesty the Queen and other members of the Royal Family; and if he will make a statement.

Breathalyser Tests

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in how many cases following positive breathalyser tests, for the most recent year for which figures are available, was a motorist required to take a blood or urine test, where the analysis subsequently proved to be negative, as compared with the number of convictions for the same period.

The information is being extracted and I hope that I will be able to let my hon. Friend have it before long.

Wormwood Scrubs (Manufacture Of Women's Shorts)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether women's shorts are being made by prisoners in Wormwood Scrubs; to whom are they sold; and what is the pay of prisoners making such garments.

Fire Precautions Act, 1971

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his proposed order of priorities with regard to the designation of buildings under Section 1 of the Fire Precautions Act, 1971; and by what date he intends that the new machinery with regard to certificates and regulations should come into force as regards hotels, places of entertainment and schools and hospitals, respectively.

The order of priorities for the implementation of the Fire Precautions Act, 1971, is a matter on which my right hon. Friend is seeking the advice of the Central Fire Brigades Advisory Council. He cannot yet say when the Act will apply to the premises mentioned.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he intends to issue any explanatory memorandum with regard to the Fire Precautions Act for the use of the proprietors of buildings which may be designated by him under Section 1 thereof.

Pig-Sticking

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will list the statutes relating to the practice of pig-sticking in Great Britain.

The Protection of Animals Act, 1911, and the Protection of Animals (Scotland) Act, 1912, under which it is an offence to cause any unnecessary suffering to any domestic or captive animal.

Probation Service

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further steps he now intends to take to resolve the situation in the Probation Service.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave on 24th June to Questions by my hon. Friend the Member for Nottingham, South (Mr. Fowler) and by the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Renée Short).—[Vol. 819, c. 1564–6.]

Au Pairs

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many au pair girls or boys were in the United Kingdom in 1968, 1969, 1970 and at the latest date; and what were their nationalities.

15,921 au pair girls were admitted in 1968, 14,936 in 1969 and 14,001 in 1970. The number cannot be divided by nationalities, but the majority come from Western Europe. Boys are not admitted under this scheme.

Unpaid Fines

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the fact that the present figure of over £6 million of outstanding fines is greatly in excess of last year's figure, he will take steps to initiate a scheme for payment on the basis of a discount for early payment and increases on a percentage basis for those in arrears.

Trade And Industry

Holiday Pay (Companies In Liquidation)

72.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what arrangements are made for which he is responsible for holiday pay payments in the event of a company going into Liquidation; and who is responsible for the payments.

Under Section 319 of the Companies Act, 1948, certain claims must be given preferential treatment in a winding up. They include claims in respect of holiday pay. The liquidator is responsible for payment.

Glasgow

73.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many additional jobs were estimated at 1st January, 1971, as being in prospect for males in Glasgow; and how many of these have since come to fruition.

The number is 4,170 in the Glasgow employment exchange areas over the subsequent four-year period in new industrial buildings and in industrial buildings taken over by manufacturing firms. I regret that the figures asked for in the second part of the Question are not available.

Dunbartonshire

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what efforts he is making to help those requiring employment opportunities in Dunbartonshire; and when he expects his efforts to show results.

The Government made a large part of West Central Scotland a special development area in February and announced additional incentives to attract industry there. As I told the hon. Member for Fife, West (Mr. William Hamilton) on 28th June, some signs of progress can be discerned.

British Exports Board (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he intends to recruit for the British Exports Board the senior executive staff of the British National Export Committee in view of their experience in industry and their skill and expertise in export promotion.

This question is being discussed at the moment between B.N.E.C. and the Department. It is too early to give any firm answer.

PASSENGERS PICKED UP AND SET DOWN* AT LEEDS/BRADFORD AIRPORT
19711970
Scheduled servicesCharterflightsScheduled servicesCharterflights
January10,5804278,482296
February11,35365611,169391
March15,40464213,8591,278
April16,4312,06418,8141,558
MayNot available24,5001,190
JuneNot available28,279619
* The separate number of passengers picked up is not readily available.
† Including inclusive tour charters.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

European Economic Community

75.

Northern Region

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what steps he is taking to provide employment for the 70,000 unemployed in the Northern Region at present.

The Government's national and regional objectives are to lay a sound foundation for strong and sustained employment growth. The Northern Region benefits from the full range of development area measures: free depreciation; building grants, Government factories, and loans under the Local Employment Acts; special training assistance; and payment of the regional employment premium until 1974. In addition, in the special development areas, which the Government recently extended in the Northern Region, new incoming projects may be considered for operational grants and rent-free periods of up to five years in Government factories, Priority is given to the needs of the development and intermediate areas in the operation of the I.D.C. control.

Leeds/Bradford Airport (Passenger Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will tabulate the monthly figures of passengers carried from Leeds/Bradford airport on scheduled and inclusive tour and charter flights, respectively, for January-June, 1971, compared with the same period for 1970.

Following is the available information:monwealth Affairs if he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry to the European Economic Community a statement as to the current position in respect of the Community's draft directives in regard to the qualifications for medicine, nursing and midwifery and an assessment of their effect on the standards of these professions in the United Kingdom.

No. The scope of the White Paper was defined by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister in his statement on 17th June. The European Economic Community draft directives on the harmonisation of professional qualifications are still subject to considerable revision and speculation about their final content would not be appropriate.—[Vol. 819, c. 643–5.]

76.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry to the European Economic Community a statement as to the progress and prospects of the restructuring of agriculture in the Community and an assessment of the said position on the pattern of receipts from the Community budget.

The scope of the forthcoming White Paper was defined by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister in his statement on 17th June. It will refer to receipts from the Community budget in the context of the arrangements agreed for Her Majesty's Government's financial contribution to the Community.—[Vol. 819, c. 643–45.]

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will include in the forthcoming White Paper on the European Economic Community details of the enabling legislation that would be necessary in the event of Parliament approving the terms of entry.

I have nothing to add at present to the statement by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 17th June.—[Vol. 819, c. 644.]

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry into the European Economic Community an appendix setting out all the regulations and other instruments, indicating the substantial effect thereof, which will apply to Great Britain in the event of her joining the European Economic Community.

It will not be possible to include information in this detail in the White Paper, but full details of the extent to which United Kingdom laws would require modification if the United Kingdom joined the European Communities will be made available to the House at the appropriate time.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry into the European Economic Community an explanation of the processes whereby it is proposed to give effect to the regulations and other instruments operative in the European Economic Community, together with an indication of the discretion, if any, of the British Parliament in this context.

It would not be appropriate to include this information in the forthcoming White Paper, the scope of which was defined in my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister's statement of 17th June. The information will, however, be made available at an appropriate time.—[Vol. 819, c. 643–45.]

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry into the European Economic Community a statement as to whether Her Majesty's Government propose to seek an amendment to Article 189 of the Treaty of Rome to make the unanimity rule applicable to the making of regulations which will be directly applicable in the United Kingdom in the event of Great Britain joining the Community.

I am not able to anticipate in detail the content of the White Paper on this point but would refer hon. Members to my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister's statement on 24th May that we are in agreement with the Community practice of requiring that when vital national interests of any one or more members are at stake Community decisions should be taken by unanimous agreement.—[Vol. 818, c. 32.]

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) whether he will include in the White Paper on the proposed entry to the European Economic Community a statement of what action is proposed by Her Majesty's Government in respect of adherence to the so-called Luxembourg Convention, and how it is proposed to be effected, together with the view of Her Majesty's Government on the juridical effect of the said Convention where it is in conflict with the terms of the Treaty of Rome;(2) whether he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry to the European Economic Community a statement of the steps whereby Her Majesty's Government propose to secure the appropriate revision of the Treaty of Rome to give effect to the agreement reached between the Prime Minister and the French President on the respective powers and functions of the Council and Commission of the European Economic Community and on the right of veto.

In his statement of 24th May my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister explained that we would accept the existing Community practice requiring decisions to be taken by unanimous agreement when the vital national interests of any one or more members are at stake. Her Majesty's Government's future policy in this matter, if the United Kingdom joins the Communities, is not a matter which would be appropriate to the forthcoming White Paper.—[Vol. 818, c. 31–5.]

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry into the European Economic Community an appendix setting out which decisions, actions, and instruments, respectively, of the Council and the Commission of the European Economic Community require, under the provisions of the Treaty of Rome, unanimous vote and which require only a qualified majority.

No. These matters fall to be decided in the light of the Treaties establishing the European Communities, in conjunction with the accepted practice explained by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister, that when vital national interests of any one or more members are at stake decisions should be taken by unanimous agreement.—[Vol. 818, c. 31–5.]

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on proposed entry into the European Economic Community a statement as to whether it is Her Majesty's Government's intention to seek any amendment of the provisions of the Treaty of Rome specifying the requirements, respectively, of a unanimous vote and a qualified majority.

As I told the House in my Statement on 24th June, we have agreed arrangements with the Six for British participation in the main institutions of the Community. The White Paper will cover this aspect of the negotiations.—[Vol. 819, c. 1604–10.]

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on the proposed entry to the European Economic Community a statement as to the position of the non-applicant countries of the European Free Trade Association in respect of liability to, or exemption from, the common external tariff of the Six, together with similar information in respect of the countries of the Commonwealth.

In so far as these issues have been covered in the negotiations, reference will be made to them in the White Paper.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on the proposed entry to the European Economic Community a statement of any undertakings, express or implied, whereby Her Majesty's Government propose to limit the freedom of action of Government or Parliament during the transitional period by accepting a right of veto by the Community or the requirement of prior consultation and approval by it.

In joining the European Communities Her Majesty's Government would be accepting the obligations of the Treaties establishing the Communities. I cannot however anticipate the details of the White Paper on this issue.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will include in the White Paper on the proposed entry to the European Economic Community a full catalogue of all matters accepted by Her Majesty's Government at the start of the negotiations in 1970, or preliminary thereto, or as a condition thereof.

The position of Her Majesty's Government at the commencement of the present negotiations was explained in the White Paper of 30th June, 1970. The forthcoming White Paper will set out in detail the arrangements agreed in the negotiations since 30th June and Her Majesty's Government's conclusions on whether they form a satisfactory basis for joining the European Economic Community.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether, before recommending to Parliament the terms and conditions for Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community, he will agree to discuss such terms with the Trade Union Congress and request permission to address their annual conference on such matters.

I have had regular contact with representatives of the Trades Union Congress throughout the negotiations. Invitations to address their annual conference are a matter for them.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether, in all of his public statements and discussions on matters pertaining to Great Britain's possible entry into the Common Market, he will request the general public to write to him giving their views and opinions on whether or not they are in support of Great Britain's entry on the terms and conditions as now proposed.

The general public are well aware that they may write to Ministers and to their own Member of Parliament about the negotiations, and many of them do so.

Social Services

Family Income Supplement

77.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services for each week since 3rd May, how many new claims have been made for a family income supplement and each of the associated passport benefits; how many of these claims have so far been processed, and of those processed, how many were successful and how many were unsuccessful applications; and what has been the total administrative costs of the handling of these claims so far.

Up to 22nd June 12,284 claims to family income supplement had been successful out of 25,337 claims processed. The weekly figures for claims received are as follows:

3rd–11th May3,182
12th–18th May5,866
19th–25th May7,381
26th May–1st June5,009
2nd–8th June5,080
9th–15th June4,862
16th–22nd June4,532
Because statistics about unsuccessful claims to the other benefits are collected in a different way I cannot at present add to the information given in replies to the hon. Member on 25th May and 29th June. I shall, however, write to him when the information becomes available. The administrative costs to date are not yet available.—[Vol 818, c

76–8; Vol. 820, c. 79–80.]

Immigration (Figures)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services with reference to the totals of net immigration of persons of new Commonwealth ethnic origin between 1st July, 1966, and 1st July, 1970, in Table 2 of Appendix K to the Registrar General's Quarterly Return No. 488, what figures he included therein for the net immigration of persons of such origin holding United Kingdom passports between 1st July, 1966, and 29th February, 1968.

The Registrar General did not distinguish in his estimate of net immigration between the ethnic origin of one category of United Kingdom passport holders and another before 1st July, 1967. The best estimate he can now make on the incomplete evidence available is that in the period 1st July, 1966, to 29th February, 1968, the net immigration of persons of new Commonwealth ethnic origin holding United Kingdom passports was not more than 25,000.

Bristol Royal Infirmary

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the original estimated cost and what is the present estimated cost of all external architectural embellishments on the front elevation of the new casualty and out-patient department at Bristol Royal Infirmary overlooking Upper Maudlin Street.

No such embellishments were included in the original and current estimated costs given in my reply to the hon. Member on 14th May, 1971. The further report from the Board of Governors referred to in my reply to the hon. Member on 15th June, 1971, will show whether any part of the additional expenditure currently under consideration is attributable to work which might be considered to be for aesthetic purposes—[Vol. 817, c. 180; Vol. 819, c. 55.]

Temporary Accommodation

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many places were provided in temporary accommodation, both in family units and communal units, respectively, by each local authority in England and Wales at 31st December of each of the last 10 years; and, in each case, how this accommodation was divided between whole families including the man, and families of exclusively the mother and children.

Information about family composition and accommodation was not collected before 1966, and in any case is not available in the form requested. I will send the hon. Member the available information for authorities in England and place a copy in the Library of the House. Information for Wales is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales. "Family accommodation" is accommodation where families both cater for themselves and sleep in a family unit. "Families which do not include a man" rarely implies any decision to exclude a husband.

Medicines Act, 1968

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make a statement about fees to be paid in connection with licences and certificates under Part II of the Medicines Act, 1968.

In April last a memorandum on fees to be charged in connection with licences and certificates under the Medicines Act was sent to bodies representative of the interests concerned as a basis for consultation. This document envisaged a scale of fees intended to collect about £750,000 a year, which was estimated to be the full cost of the operation of the licensing system. The fee structure was on a flat rate basis including a unit fee of £15 for each branded product.The main points made in comments received on these proposals included the following:

(1) There was strong objection to the total amount to be paid, and to the principle of collecting the whole cost, including criticisms of the "open ended" nature of an arrangement under which the full cost of expenditure in this field would fall on fees.
(2) Most of the bodies concerned demurred at a distinction between branded and un-branded products.
(3) Bodies representing smaller firms maintained that the flat rate basis imposed an unduly heavy burden on such firms.

In the light of these comments and of discussions with the bodies concerned the Health and Agriculture Ministers have reviewed the whole question and have reached the following conclusions:

1. The definition of activities constituting the cost of licensing should be narrowed by excluding:
  • (a) those activities which represent a continuation of work hitherto carried on under the Therapeutic Substances Act, 1956 and the Diseases of Animals Act, 1950.
  • (b) One fifth of the cost of the staff supporting the two Committees which are concerned with advising the licensing authority. This work represents a continuation of the work hitherto carried on by the corresponding Committees under the voluntary scheme.
  • As a result of these adjustments the estimate of the full cost of the administration of licensing is reduced to about £500,000 a year. Before any expansion of the scope of work falling within this revised definition there would be full consultation with the interested bodies.
    2. The initial scale of fees should be such as to recover about £300,000 a year. At future reviews it will be the objective to bring the receipts into line with the full costs as defined in the foregoing paragraph.
    3. The scale of fees should recognise the position of the smaller firms and be such as to avoid placing excessive burdens on them.
    In accordance with these decisions amended proposals will be put to the interested bodies about the detailed provisions to be included in the fees regulations.

    Clydeside

    Q1.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will now pay an official visit to Glasgow and take the opportunity during this visit to tour the shipbuilding yards of the Upper Clyde Shipbuilders.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave on 29th June to a Question from the hon. Member for Dunbartonshire, East (Mr. McCartney.)—[Vol. 820, c. 99.]

    Prices And Incomes

    Q6.

    asked the Prime Minister how many letters he has received, since he assumed office, about the relationship between prices and incomes.

    I have received about 1,700 letters on issues relating to the cost of living.

    Government Departments (Efficiency)

    Q7.

    asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the efforts of all Government Departments to increase their efficiency; and if he will make a statement.

    This must be a continuing process, but I believe that the measures already introduced by the Government are making a major contribution to greater efficiency.

    Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Limited

    Q8.

    asked the Prime Minister whether, when he met the deputation from Upper Clyde Shipbuilders' shop stewards, he discussed with them how unemployment could be reduced.

    I discussed with the deputation the measures which were being taken, in conjunction with the provisional liquidator, to keep the work force intact while the team of advisers investigated the possibilities of reconstruction. I also explained that we had responded to the employment problems of Clyde- side by making it a special development area last February.

    Q16.

    asked the Prime Minister what arrangements he has made for inter-departmental co-ordination in dealing with the problems of Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Limited.

    There is already close co-ordination between all the Departments concerned.

    Q17.

    asked the Prime Minister what representations he has received about Upper Clyde Shipbuilders Limited; and what replies he has sent.

    Q19.

    asked the Prime Minister, how many representations he has received, from individuals and organisations, respectively, concerning the future of Upper Clyde Shipbuilders; and what replies he has sent.

    I have met the Lord Provost of Glasgow and representatives of Glasgow Corporation, of the Scottish Trades Union Congress and of Upper Clyde Shipbuilders shop stewards. I have also received a number of telegrams and letters. The replies describe the facts of the situation and the response of the Government, as they have been explained to the House.

    Q21.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement on the discussions which he held with shop stewards from the Upper Clyde shipyards at No. 10 Downing Street on Wednesday, 16th June, 1971.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his talks with trades union representatives on Wednesday, 16th June, concerning the future of the shipbuilding industry in Scotland.

    The deputation expressed to me its concern about the future of shipbuilding on the Upper Clyde. In reply I set out the facts of the situation, pointing out that there was no indication of when Upper Clyde Shipbuilders could be expected to return to solvency. I emphasised that the Government wished to maintain shipbuilding on the Upper Clyde; and that measures were being taken, in conjunction with the provisional liquidator, to keep the work force intact while the team of advisers investigated the possibilities for reconstruction.

    Secretary Of State For Trade And Industry (Speech)

    Q9.

    asked the Prime Minister if the public speech made by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry in Düsseldorf, on prices and incomes, on 16th June represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    Q10.

    asked the Prime Minister whether the public speech by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to the West German Confederation of Industry in Düsseldorf on international trade on 16th June represents Government policy.

    Q11.

    asked the Prime Minister if the public speech made by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on 16th June to West German industrialists at Düsseldorf on international free trade represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    Q14.

    asked the Prime Minister if the public speech made by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry at Düsseldorf on prices and incomes on 16th June, 1971, represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    Q15.

    asked the Prime Minister if the public speech in Düsseldorf on 16th June, 1971, by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on international trade represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    West Midlands (Prime Minister's Visit)

    Q12.

    asked the Prime Minister when he expects to announce the itinerary for his proposed official visit to the West Midlands on 30th September and 1st October.

    Details of my visit will be announced when discussions with local authorities and others concerned have been completed.

    Hungary (Visit)

    Q13.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will seek to pay an official visit to Hungary.

    Prime Minster And President Pompidou (Meeting)

    Q18.

    asked the Prime Minister whether in the light of the agreement reached in Luxembourg, he will seek a further meeting with President Pompidou.

    Clackmannan And East Stirlingshire (Petition)

    Q20.

    asked the Prime Minister what reply he sent to the electors of Clackmannan and East Stirlingshire regarding the petition delivered to him on 16th June, 1971, on rising prices.

    That which I sent to the hon. Member for Clackmannan and East Stirlingshire (Mr. Douglas) on 17th June.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Seal Cull (Farne Islands)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what was the date of the last seal cull on the Fame Islands; and how many seals were killed;(2) what plans he has for another cull of seals in the Fame Islands; and what is the estimated number of seals that will be destroyed.

    The last seal cull on the Fame Islands was conducted by my Department in 1965. About 360 seals were killed.I shall be considering shortly whether to apply to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department for a licence under the Conservation of Seals Act to carry out a cull to reduce damage to fisheries. The number of seals which might be culled, should this prove desirable, would be determined in the light of scientific advice from the Natural Environment Research Council.

    Irish Republic And Northern Ireland (Meat Industries)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will seek to negotiate parity in the level of subsidy both direct and indirect to the dead meat industry in the Irish Republic and in Northern Ireland in return for the inclusion of the Irish Republic within the import levy system of the United Kingdom for beef.

    No. The relative positions of the meat industries in the Irish Republic and in Northern Ireland have been taken into account in the recent discussions with the Republic.

    Irish Republic (Beef Supplies)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what discussions he has had with the Irish Republic about the phasing of supplies of beef reaching Great Britain from the Irish Republic.

    This subject has been discussed with the Government of the Irish Republic in the context of the interim levy arrangements for beef and veal and I hope to be able to make a detailed announcement shortly.

    Sea Fisheries (Byelaw No 25, 1970)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has yet approved Byelaw No. 25, 1970, of the Association of Sea Fisheries Committees, and how many of the Committees have adopted it.

    Byelaw No. 25, 1970, designed to assist in controlling pollution harmful to sea fisheries, was recently submitted by the Lancashire and South Western Sea Fisheries Committee. The byelaw and objections made to it are under examination and I have not yet confirmed it.

    High Court And Crown Court Centres

    asked the Attorney-General at what places the High Court and Crown Court will sit regularly after the coming into force of the Courts Act, 1971.

    My noble Friend the Lord Chancellor has considered the representations which he has received following the answer which I gave to my hon. and learned Friend when I announced my noble Friend's provisional choice of court locations on 26th January. He has decided that there are insufficient reasons for departing at this stage from those proposals, but he will be reviewing the position from time to time so as to ensure that adequate court facilities are provided whenever a need for them is shown.The list in my previous answer accordingly shows the places where the High Court and Crown Court will sit regularly from 1st January, 1972, when my noble Friend proposes that the Courts Act should come into operation. It will eventually be necessary to build new courts at Oxford and Luton, with a view to their becoming 1st and 2nd-tier centres respectively. He has already undertaken to consider raising Teesside to lst-tier status as soon as the new courts there are in use and adequate accommodation is provided for High Court judges; this might involve a change in the status of the higher courts at York. Although Lancaster will be only a 3rd-tier centre, the High Court judges may continue to visit it from time to time, especially until suitable accommodation is available for them at Preston. He does not propose to implement the recommendation of the Royal Commission on Assizes and Quarter Sessions that Bangor should be substituted for Caernarvon as a lst-tier centre for North Wales. Welshpool will cease to be used for sittings of the Crown Court as soon as suitable accommodation for High Court judges is available at Newtown.My noble Friend is aware that his decision may lead to some inconvenience to people living in remote areas who may, albeit infrequently, be called upon to attend at a Crown Court centre further away from their homes than assizes or quarter sessions have sat in the past. He therefore proposes that, even though there may not be sufficient business in these areas to justify regular sittings of the Crown Court, a circuit judge should visit the locality from time to time if the amount of business arising in the area justifies it. Boston, Lampeter, Penzance and Scarborough are examples of the places he has in mind.—[Vol. 810, c. 98.]

    Civil Service

    Pensions And Pay

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the amount of pension payable or claimable, stating the basis for senior chief executive officers and assistant secretaries and the dates in 1964, 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1970 and 1971 when their salaries were raised.

    The information requested is as follows.Under the Superannuation Act, 1965, established civil servants of all grades

    senior Chief
    Executive OfficerAssistant Secretary
    Date of IncreaseMinimumMaximumMinimumMaximum
    ££££
    1st January, 19642,9503,3003,3004,300
    1st January, 19653,0393,300
    1st September, 19653,0643,5003,5004,500
    1st January, 19683,3773,7453,7454,815
    1st January, 19693,5504,0003,8504,950
    1st July, 19693,7284,2004,0455,200
    1st April, 19704,0454,5554,3905,640
    1st January, 19714,6005,2005,0006,300

    Environment

    Countryside Parks

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he intends to make a statement about the review of countryside parks in Great Britain.

    I assume that my hon. Friend has in mind the proposed review of national parks in England and Wales. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I will make an announcement shortly about the composition and terms of reference of the review body.

    Liverpool Bay (Sludge Disposal)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when retiring at or after age 60 with a minimum of 10 years' reckonable service are eligible to receive in respect of each year of reckonable service a non-contributory pension of 1 /80th, and an associated lump sum of 3/80ths, of their average salary over the last three years of service. The maximum service reckonable up to the retiring age is 40 years and the maximum at any age 45 years.Assuming 40 years' reckonable service and that they had been on the maximum of the appropriate salary scale during their last three years of service, the pensions and lump sums for which senior chief executive officers and assistant secretaries would have been eligible on retirement on 31st December, 1970, would have been:

    Senior ChiefAssistant
    Executive OfficerSecretary
    PensionLump SumPensionLump Sum
    ££££
    2,0526,1562,5707,710
    Since 1963 the salaries of the senior chief executive officer (now senior principal) and the assistant secretary grades have increased as follows:the Interdepartmental Working Party on Sludge Disposal in Liverpool Bay will complete their investigations and report.

    The experimental field work has been completed and the Working Party expects to report later this year. The report has been delayed a little mainly because since my hon. Friend answered his hon. Friend's Question last January, it was decided to extend the sea-bed sampling programme, and it is thought that the study is the most comprehensive of its kind carried out anywhere in the world.

    Local Government Finance (Green Paper)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he can now say when he expects to publish a Green Paper on Local Government Finance.

    Windsor Bridge (Closure)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the decision of the Royal Borough of New Windsor to approve the permanent closure of Windsor Bridge, he will reconsider his decision not to include Windsor in the list of historic towns for which by-pass routes are planned.

    My right hon. Friend's recent announcement of inter-urban trunk road plans drew attention to the relief for those historic towns on trunk roads. The reason why Windsor was not shown on the map of historic towns was simply that it is not on a trunk road. It is, however, already afforded some relief from through traffic by the M4; and will be afforded further relief by the completion of the north and south orbital routes. The Eton-Windsor relief road takes traffic away from the historic town centre. The closure of Windsor Bridge has had the effect of diverting more traffic from the town on to the relief road.

    Local Authorities (Strikes)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what local authorities have been indemnified by the Government against claims for damages resulting from the strikes following the assurance given to representatives of local authorities at a meeting held at the Home Office on 13th October, 1970; and if he will give financial details of the cases concerned.

    No claim considered to fall within the terms of the assurance has so far arisen.

    Traffic Signals

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress he is making in reducing delays in the supplying and commissioning of traffic signals.

    I have held discussions with manufacturers and have persuaded them to accept reductions of up to two months in the time required for supply and commissioning. I have further invited manufacturers and they have agreed to join in a working group with my Department to review the whole procedure for supply of traffic signals so that the possibility of further reductions may be considered. This group will report to me in three months.

    Plymouth (Ring Road)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he will be holding an inquiry concerning the ring-road planned to go near Higher Saint Budeaux, Plymouth, to the Tamar Bridge.

    My hon. Friend wrote to my hon. Friend about this on 30th June. My hon. Friend has decided that the Plymouth outer ring road will be a trunk road. Consequently the city council's scheme will not proceed and there will be no need for an inquiry on it.

    Land Commission Members (Compensation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what will be cost of compensation for loss of office payable to the members of the Land Commission under section 4 of the Land Commission (Dissolution) Act, 1971.

    The total cost will be £12,505. A Summer Supplementary Estimate is being presented to the House today and an advance will be made from the Contingencies Fund pending the availability of Supply.

    House Of Commons

    Members Of Parliament And Government (Relationship)

    asked the Lord President of the Council if he will recommend the establishment of a Royal Commission to examine the relationship between Members of Parliament, and the Government, Government agencies and other legislative bodies.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether Members of Parliament will, before Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community, be enabled to visit the countries of the Six to study conditions in these countries; on what basis; whether their expenses will be met out of public funds, and on what basis; and whether such expenses will be on a par to those paid to Parliamentarians in the countries of the Six.

    It is anticipated that about 30 hon. Members will be attending, as delegates, various European Parliamentary assemblies held in countries of the Community during the coming recess. Their expenses will be officially paid on the standard basis, which is comparable with the allowances of delegates from other European countries. Many other hon. Members will no doubt be making their own private arrangements for visits during this period.

    Posts And Telecommunications

    Isle Of Man (Telecommunications)

    asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications (1) whether he will state what are the present operating costs, in categories, of the Isle of Man telecommunications services which could be disposed of by the Minister under Section 87 of the Post Office Act, 1969;(2) what is the present estimated cost over the next five years of development of the Isle of Man telecommunications business which could be disposed of by the Minister under Section 87 of the Post Office Act, 1969; and whether he will cost the major developments;(3) what is the total income of the telecommunications business in the Isle of Man, including governmental usage, which could be disposed of by the Minister under section 87 of the Post Office Act, 1969;(4) if he will state what is the present value of telecommunications equipment and buildings in the Isle of Man which could be disposed of by the Minister under Section 87 of the Post Office Act, 1969.

    Financial information about Post Office telecommunications in the Isle of Man is a matter for the Post Office.

    Scotland

    Irish Potato-Pickers

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will call for a report from the chief constable as to how many complaints have been made to the police in Haddington of the conditions under which Irish immigrant potato-pickers live and work whilst employed in East Lothian; and if he will make a statement.

    I am informed by the chief constable that since August, 1968, five incidents have been reported to the police in Haddington in relation to Irish potato-pickers. Three were requests for police assistance which was made available and on which no further action was found to be necessary. Two were allegations of assault or intimidation, but on investigation no evidence was available to justify a criminal charge.

    Scottish Council Oceanspan Concept

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking to ensure implementation of the Scottish Council (Development and Industry) Oceanspan concept.

    I am maintaining close contact with the Council, which is engaged on further research into industrial development in Europe within the Oceanspan concept. Meantime, much has been and is being done to strengthen the communications infrastructure of the manufacturing corridor of Central Scotland as suggested in the report. Some recommendations are, of course, matters for the operators of the relevant transport undertakings.

    National Finance

    European Economic Community

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) whether he is now in a position to estimate, now that the terms and conditions for Great Britain's entry into the Common Market are known, what the rise in the cost of living will be for the quarterly periods for the first two years from the date of entry;(2) whether he will estimate on the present known terms and conditions for Great Britain's entry into the Common Market, what will be the depreciation in the purchasing value of the £ for the quarterly periods for the first two years from the date of entry.

    I would ask the hon. Member to await the publication of the White Paper.