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Volume 828: debated on Wednesday 15 December 1971

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday, 15th December, 1971

Environment

Motor Vehicles (Pollution)

18.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, as part of his review of pollution from motor vehicles, he will have consultations with the motor trade with the aim of encouraging the introduction of pollution-free exhaust systems.

I shall shortly be announcing what controls on emissions from petrol-engine vehicles I consider necessary as a result of my review. I shall then have consultations both about the implementation of those controls and about the prospects of achieving more rigorous standards in the longer term.

United Nations Conference On The Environment

22.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the names of the people appointed to the four working parties he has set up to report in connection with the United Nations Conference on the Environment at Stockholm.

Following are the names:MEMBERSHIP OF THE FOUR WORKING PARTIES APPOINTED TO ASSEMBLE EVIDENCE FOR THE STOCKHOLM CONFERENCE.

Lady Dartmouth's Working Party on the
Human Habitat

Chairman

  • The Countess of Dartmouth.

Members

  • Robert Jackson.
  • Professor R. Nicoll.
  • Mrs. M. Reynolds.
  • Simon Jenkins.
  • Alfred Wood.

Special Advisers

  • Max Nicholson, C.B.
  • Lord Clark.
  • Sir Ove Arup.

Sir Eric Ashby's Working Party on the Control of Pollution

Chairman

  • Sir Eric Ashby, F.R.S.

Members

  • Professor W. Beckerman.
  • Dr. K. Benson-Evans.
  • R. N. Bottini.
  • Professor R. B. Clark.
  • Dr. J. Davoll.
  • N. A. Iliff. C.B.E.
  • J. Macaskill.
  • Dr. E. J. Richards, O.B.E.
  • Professor J Rotblat, C.B.E.
  • Sir Norman Rowntree.
  • G. Sharp, O.B.E., J.P.
  • Rear-Admiral P. G. Sharp, C.B., D.S.C.
  • Jon Tinker.
  • Professor Sir Frederick Warner.
  • B. Whitworth.

Mr. Ralph Verney's Working Party on the Management of Natural Resources

Chairman

  • Ralph Verney, J.P.

Members

  • Marchioness of Anglesey.
  • John W. Blackley.
  • J. C. Hanbury, C.B.E.
  • Professor D. K. Britton.
  • Mrs. Jean Balfour.
  • David Lea.
  • Jeremy Rowe.
  • John Eve.
  • N. V. Craven.
  • Derek Lovejoy.
  • R. J. A. Gazzard.
  • David Streeter.

Mr. Dennis Stevenson's Working Party on the Role of Youth and Voluntary Organisations in the Environment.

Chairman

  • Dennis Stevenson.

Members

  • J. Michael Buchanan.
  • Robert Carnwath.
  • Ian Fletcher.
  • D. Henderson-Stewart.
  • Richard Jennings.
  • Augustus John.
  • Miss Penny MacLucas.
  • Jonathan Holliman.

93.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the reports of the four United Nations Stockholm Conference Working Parties on the Environment are ready for publication; and if he proposes to publish them.

All four working parties expect to complete their reports early in the New Year. I intend to publish them in good time for the conference.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many meetings Lady Dartmouth's working party on the human habitat has held with individuals and organisations to determine their views.

Lady Dartmouth and members of her Working Party have made a thorough study of the literature on the human habitat, and have collected written evidence from more than 300 persons and organisations. They have as expert advisers Lord Clark, Ove Arup and Max Nicholson. They have interviewed many hundreds of people up and down the country and discussed many of the acute problems of our habitat with Professor Buchanan and representatives of the R.I.B.A. Lady Dartmouth has herself made 14 tours covering 30 towns and districts in England, Scotland and Wales. She has held seven half-day meetings at the Department of the Environment and has had several other more informal meetings of her group. I know the House would wish to thank Lady Dartmouth for the vigour with which she has tackled this task.

Improvement Grants

35.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will seek to amend the method of payment of improvement grants to local authorities on properties which they own.

37.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much money in the form of grants has been injected into the house improvement programme.

Since 1969, £55 million has been paid in cash grants to private owners in England and Wales. During the same period, the Government's share of the total capital cost of improvements to local authority housing amounted to £40 million.

Roads (South-West)

38.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment by what dates he now expects the completion of the M5 to Exeter, the dualling of the A38 between Exeter and Plymouth, the dualling of the A30 between Exeter and Okehampton, and the improvement of the A30 between Okehampton and Launceston to the 70 miles per hour standard; and if he will make a statement.

Present target dates are the summer of 1974 for the Exeter-Plymouth dualling, and, subject to satisfactory completion of all necessary statutory procedures for settling routes and acquiring land, the end of 1975 for the M5 to Exeter, 1977 for the Exeter and Okehampton dualling, and the end of the 1970s for the Okehampton-Launceston improvement.

A23, Brighton (Crash Barrier)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give urgent consideration to erecting a crash barrier in the centre of the A23 between Mill Road and London Road, Brighton, and just south of Pyecombe Hill.

Refuse And Spoil Tips (Material)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what investigation is being made into re-using materials from refuse and spoil tips.

The Laboratory at Warren Spring of the Department of Trade and Industry is investigating the possibilities of recovering material from refuse and other wastes; further projects are being undertaken at universities; the use of waste from spoil heaps for purposes of road fill has been the subject of a recent investigation by a working party of my Department; and the industries involved in mineral extraction are themselves looking into ways of re-using their wastes.

Road Safety

42.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what provision the Government is making to increase the degree of responsibility for road safety which is vested in local authorities; and if he will make a statement.

The Government propose that road accident prevention should become a statutory obligation of the new county councils and the London authorities.

Urban Motorways

43.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has for reviewing urban motorway proposals in the light of recently announced reports by consultants commissioned by the Government.

I must ask my hon. Friend to await the report of the Urban Motorways Committee, for which these research studies were undertaken. My right hon. Friend expects to receive this next year.

Ports

44.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek powers to provide for heavy weighbridges to be installed at all ports so that commercial vehicles arriving in the United Kingdom are each automatically weighed to see that they are not over-loaded.

No. Adequate weighbridges are available at most roll-on roll-off ports.

54.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the discussions which his Department has had in relation to port development in Scotland.

114.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the discussions which his Department has had in relation to port development in Scotland and on the estimate he has made of the effect of Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community on this matter.

Port development proposals are a matter for harbour authorities or other prospective developers. I have not so far received any advice from the National Ports Council which suggests that entry into the European Communities will have a substantial effect on Scottish port development, though I would of course give due weight to this factor in considering any proposals for such developments.

63.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has for implementing the provisions of the White Paper "Financial Policy for Ports", Command Paper No. 4794; and if he will make a statement.

The Harbours (Loans) Bill will have its Second Reading next week.

106.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the number of ports in the United Kingdom which are capable of taking tankers of 250,000 tons dead-weight loading.

Two ports, the Clyde and Milford Haven, can take 250,000-ton tankers fully laden. Some other ports can take them part-laden.

Building Society Mortgages

45.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the take up of mortgages from building societies for the first nine months of this year, and how this compares with the equivalent period in 1970.

Building societies made 478,000 house purchase advances totalling £1,940 million in the first three quarters of 1971, compared with 393,000 advances totalling £1,411 million in the first three quarters of 1970.

County Authorities (Headquarters)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement about the siting of local authority headquarters for the new counties.

It will be entirely for each of the new county councils to decide on the location of their headquarters after they have been elected in 1973. Similarly, each of the new district councils will settle for themselves where their headquarters will be.

Advanced Passenger Train

47.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what export potential he foresees for the advanced passenger train; whether he plans that its development by British Rail will be in conjunction with the private sector of industry; and if he will make a statement.

I am sure that the advanced passenger train will have great export potential. Private industry is already substantially involved in its development.

Urban Transport (Costs)

48.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied that the information available to his Department enables him fully to compare the social and economic costs and benefits of providing urban transport by road and rail; and if he will make a statement.

These comparisons are made by major urban local authorities, wherever possible, as part of the comprehensive urban land use transportation studies for which they are primarily responsible. The Department is continuing to develop improved methods to enable this to be done more thoroughly and systematically.

Housing (Tenants' Delegations)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his policy with regard to seeing tenants' delegations accompanied by their Members of Parliament about rent matters.

I am always willing to meet hon. Members to discuss any subject which concerns me. But it is quite impossible for Ministers to meet all the tenants' associations who may wish to see them, whether or not they are accompanied by an hon. Member.As I cannot set myself up to judge one association's claims to be seen against another's I feel it fairer to see none and to consider anything the associations wish to say on the basis of written representations.

66.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the fact that the Association of London Housing Estates is a grant-aided body under the urban aid programme, and represents council tenants on 130 estates in Greater London, he will reconsider his decision not to meet a deputation from them to discuss the effect on tenants of the Housing Finance Bill.

69.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what his policy is with regard to seeing tenants' delegations accompanied by their Members of Parliament about rent matters.

70.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will agree to meet delegations of tenants' organisations to discuss the provisions of the Housing Finance Bill.

I am always willing to meet Members of the House to discuss any subject which concerns me. But it is quite impossible for Ministers to meet all the tenants' associations who may wish to see them, whether or not they are accompanied by an hon. Member.As I cannot set myself up to judge one association's claims to be seen against another's I feel it fairer to see none and to consider anything the associations wish to say on the basis of written representations.

Electric Trains (Safety)

50.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what research he has undertaken into the safety of fast trains travelling between Glasgow and London on electrified rails; and if he will make a statement.

None. Fast electric trains have been running between Euston and Crewe since 1961. No particular safety difficulties have arisen, and I have no reason to think that extension of electrification to Glasgow will create new problems.

M1 (Gantry Signals)

51.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects that gantry signals on the southern end of the M1 will be operational; and if he will make a statement about the delay in providing them.

The present temporary emergency warning signals over the whole length of the M1 are being progressively replaced by computer-controlled signals. These are already operational on the M1 in Yorkshire, and I expect that the gantry signals at the southern end of the M1 will be operational by mid-1972. Delays have been caused by technical problems.

Housing Subsidies And Mortgage Interest Relief

52.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment by how much he estimates housing subsidies to local housing authorities will be reduced as a result of the Housing Finance Bill over the next 10 years; and by how much he estimates that mortgage interest tax relief to owner-occupiers will increase over the same period.

It is not expected that the total subsidies payable to local authorities in England and Wales under the Housing Finance Bill will be below their present level. As regards the second part of the Question, I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to him on 27th October by my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary.

A636 (Kitchenroyd)

53.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what were the results of the speed checks conducted by his Department on the A636 Wakefield road through Kitchenroyd.

A count taken as recently as Monday, 6th December at Kitchenroyd reveals that two out of three cars were travelling at speeds in excess of 40 m.p.h. Of these one quarter were exceeding 50 m.p.h.

Chronically Sick And Disabled Persons Act

55.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the local authorities which have implemented Section 15 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act by the co-option of disabled persons to any committees whose business is relevant to their needs.

The provisions referred to by my hon. Friend requires authorities to have regard to the desirability of appointing persons with relevant experience to committees concerned with matters in which the chronically sick or disabled have special needs. I have no reason to doubt that all local authorities have observed this requirement, but information is not available as to which authorities have made appointments to their committees solely because of the passing of the Act.

Accommodation Agencies

56.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now make a statement as to whether he is prepared to introduce amending legislation to the Accommodation Agencies Act, 1953, in order to protect the interests of prospective tenants seeking accommodation through the aegis of such agencies.

62.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the workings of the Accommodation Agencies Act, 1953; and if he will make a statement.

81.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when, in view of the evasion of the Accommodation Agencies Act 1953 by agencies illegally requiring payment from prospective tenants, he expects to complete his review of the operation of this Act.

112.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has had from local authorities regarding the workings of the Accommodation Agencies Act, 1953; and if he will make a statement.

I have received one representation from a local authority on the workings of this Act. I understand that doubts have arisen as to the effect of the High Court's decision in Crouch and Lees v. Haridas.I cannot interpret the law, but I understand that legal opinion has held that it does not prohibit charging for services other than those for which charging is expressly forbidden. I gather that this view is supported by a decision in a case heard before a stipendiary magistrate at Newcastle-upon-Tyne on 3rd December. Agencies providing few, if any, services beyond those mentioned in the Act, and charging for them, are as liable to prosecution as ever.In the circumstances, the Government have no proposals at present for amending legislation.

Land

57.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress he is making to ensure that local authorities release more land they at present own, where it is suitable for development, in order to ease the pressure of rising land prices due to its scarcity.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave him on 8th December.—[Vol. 827, c. 1287.]

65.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to obtain a schedule of redundant, unused, or surplus land from planning authorities, including that in the possession of nationalised and other public bodies.

A decision to do this would involve a substantial change in the relationship of central to local government but I am in frequent consultation with local auhorities concerning the availability of land for development.

Derelict Land

58.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has completed his consultations on derelict land clearance with the six county councils which have the worst problems.

My right hon. Friend has already visited Cumberland, Durham, Lancashire and Northumberland and will be visiting Derbyshire and the West Riding early next year.

109.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the outcome of his consultations with Lancashire County Council over the clearance of derelict land in the county.

Local authorities have been made more aware of the need to make increased use of the generous grants which are available. They have been asked to submit realistic six-year programmes and to aim at clearing their existing problems within 10 years.

House Prices

59.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the rise of points during the latest 12-month period in the index of average prices of new private houses prepared by his Department.

The index rose 22 points or 13 per cent. from the third quarter of 1970 to the third quarter of 1971.

118.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on house prices.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Housing and Construction to the right hon. Member for Sunderland, North (Mr. Willey) on 24th November.—[Vol. 826, c. 363.]

Local Government Finance

60.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received in response to the Green Paper on Local Government Finance.

My right hon. Friend has received more than 150 representations from local authorities, local authority associations, other bodies and members of the public.

61.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his programme for consultation on the Green Paper on Local Government Finance.

Consultations on the Green Paper began last September and I hope will be completed by about next spring.

Local Government (Wages And Salaries)

64.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what estimate he has made of the savings in wages and salaries resulting from the proposals in the Local Government Bill; and if he will make a statement.

No estimate can be made at this stage. Staff complements will be decided by the new authorities with the advice which will be contained in the Report of the Management Study Group set up by my right hon. Friend and the local authorities associations. Reorganisation will enable staff to be more effectively and economically deployed within modern structures of management.

Footballers (Rights Of Appeal)

67.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on his recent discussions with the Professional Footballers' Association, in regard to the rights of players who wish to appeal to an arbitration body in cases where they have the official support of the Association. the hon. Gentleman might like to write

I discussed the possibility of appeals by professional players against sentences passed on them for offences on the field of play. These talks were against the background of the Industrial Relations Act and the draft Code of Industrial Practice.Whilst I am naturally very interested in this matter, the primary responsibility of course lies with the Football Association who I understand are giving consideration to the problem.

Fire Escapes

68.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what research is being undertaken by the Joint Fire Research Organisation, into means of escape from fire, both at home and at the place of work.

The Joint Fire Research Organisation is engaged on a number of projects with a direct bearing on means of escape. Following are details:

  • 1. Experimental studies on the flow of smoke in corridors, passages and tunnels.
  • 2. Development of tests for assessing materials in relation to flammability and smoke production, including some large-scale room experiments.
  • 3. Identification and measurement of toxic products from various materials burnt in rooms with smoke flowing down a corridor.
  • 4. A study of the behaviour of persons who have escaped from fire (extra-mural project placed with Loughborough University).
  • 5. Pressurisation of air in stairways and on escape routes to prevent leakage of smoke on to them.
  • 6. A study of the fire resistance of doors, this work to be extended to a study of doors as barriers to smoke.
  • 7. One of the main experimental projects is on the fire hazards of town centre developments, with particular reference to shopping arcades. These are places where not only shop assistants but also large numbers of the shopping public could be at risk, and where there are special escape problems.
  • Humber Estuary

    71.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will initiate plans to reclaim land from the Humber estuary.

    No, but I will gladly consider any schemes which are put forward by local interests. Perhaps to me about what he has in mind.

    Leasehold Reform Act

    72.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received about the operation of the Leasehold Reform Act; and whether he will make a statement.

    I have received a number of representations, some of them conflicting, for the amendment of this Act. These have been carefully considered but have established no grounds for changing the conclusion, announced by my right hon. Friend on 14th July. 1970, that the Act should not be amended.

    Vehicles (Weight And Size)

    73.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will list his present powers to limit the weight and size of vehicles arriving at British ports and their loads.

    Green Belt (London)

    74.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has for further legislation in order to protect London's Green Belt.

    None; local planning authorities have adequate powers to protect the green belt under existing legislation.

    Pedestrian Crossings (Ramps)

    75.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will recommend local authorities to provide ramps at pedestrian crossings to enable the infirm, the aged and mothers with prams to cross roads with greater safety and convenience.

    Local Government Boundary Commission

    76.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment by what authority he has established the Local Government Boundary Commission for England prior to the Local Government Bill receiving the Royal Assent.

    The Boundary Commission has not been formally established; this cannot be done until the Local Government Bill has been enacted. The Commission Designate was announced after the Bill had been given a Second Reading, however; no specific authority is required for informal action of this kind.

    Post Office Tower (Bristol)

    77.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will order an inquiry into the proposal of the Post Office Corporation to erect a tower building in the centre of Bristol.

    No. This development was approved in outline by the Bristol City Council in March, 1969, after careful consideration of the proposal and the views of interested parties.

    Concorde

    78.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what reply he has sent to the letter from the Committee for Environmental Conservation asking him to undertake further study of Concorde's effects on the environment; and if he will make a statement.

    I am sending the hon. Member a copy of the reply which I have sent to the Committee for Environmental Conservation.

    Local Government Bill (Planning Provisions)

    79.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will initiate immediate studies into the questions of the availability and deployment of expert planning staff able to implement the planning provisions of the Local Government Bill.

    I have already invited the local authority associations to concert their views on arrangements, including the deployment of staff, for ensuring continuity and administrative economy in handling planning matters. We want to consider these views together with those of the professional and other organisations concerned.

    Peak Park

    80.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many representations he has received asking that the Peak Park Planning Board for the National Peak Park should retain its existing powers, and in particular those relating to precepting on local authorities within the National Park.

    My right hon. Friend has received a number of representations recently about the form of administration of national parks generally. As regard the Peak Park, he has already said that he proposes to retain the Planning Board. It will keep its existing powers, including its percepting powers.

    Vehicles Lighting Regulations

    82.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to amend the Vehicles Lighting Regulations so as to permit the use of revolving blue or red flashing beacons on fire and ambulance service vehicles.

    Blue beacons are already permitted. I do not propose to seek powers to permit red beacons.

    98.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment in order to obtain better and earlier fog warning for motorists, if he will seek powers to require the installation of supplementary intense rear lights on vehicles, together with a second set of higher and brighter rear lights on trucks.

    My right hon. Friend is re-examining these ideas in co-operation with the motoring organisations, the road haulage industry and the police.

    Housing (Thermal Insulation)

    84.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make a statement on action to be taken to improve standards of thermal insulation and prevention of condensation in housing.

    92.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made in his review of the question of thermal insulation in housing; when the results are likely to be published; and if he will make a statement

    The Inter-Departmental review of thermal insulation is well advanced. Its scope has been broadened to consider the question of condensation in dwellings. A survey of condensation in local authority housing has been carried out. When the review has been completed I shall consider the need to issue design guidance to local authorities on the subject of thermal insulation.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish a list of those local authorities specifying the use of two inches of thermal insulation in the roofs of new houses; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will increase the Parker-Morris standard of thermal insulation to that prevailing in other countries of Western Europe, with a view to reducing the cost of fuel for heating purposes.

    At present the only mandatory standards of thermal insulation are those laid down in the building regulations, which relate to matters of health and safety. A recent survey has shown, however, that many local authorities build to higher standards of thermal insulation than required by the building regulations. My right hon. Friend is reviewing the need to give any additional design guidance on the subject to local authorities. Appropriate thermal insulation standards depend upon climatic conditions, and uniformity with other countries is not necessarily desirable.

    Schools (Bootle)

    83.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what correspondence he has received from the headmaster of Balliol County Secondary School, Bootle, with relation to the combination of that school with Hillside High School, Bootle, and the consequent envisaged traffic dangers to children on the Southport trunk road; and if he will make a statement.

    Fair Rents

    85.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he adheres to his estimate of 30th December, 1970 of the range for average fair rents per region in 1973–74 and 1976–77.

    The estimates referred to by the hon. Member were provided to representatives of the local authority associations only as a very approximate basis for estimating the total new subsidies which might be payable under the provisions of the Housing Finance Bill.

    British Rail (Freightliner Services)

    86.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total tonnage and the total number of containers carried by the Freightliner services of British Rail in 1967 and 1970, respectively, the revenue derived from hauling these trains, and the estimated train mileage run by them.

    B.R. carried 108,500 Freightliner containers in 1967 compared with 480,000 in 1970. Freightliners Ltd. paid British Rail a haulage charge of £5·8 million in 1970. The other figures are not available.

    Lorry Parking

    87.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he is taking upon the recommendations of the working party he set up upon the problems of parking goods vehicles in the North-West; and whether he will make a statement with particular reference to the provision of lorry parks by local authorities in partnership with commercial interests on the lines suggested at Stretford.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is now able to make a statement on his intentions regarding the recommendations of his Department's working party on lorry parking.

    After consultation with the industry and the local authority associations, the Government fully support the strategy proposed in the Report. It is now launching a programme to locate and buy a sufficient number of sites, for leasing to commercial operators, so as to provide a national network of lorry parks in England outside London. Regional study groups on the lines envisaged in the Report are already being set up to establish the best sites.As far as the financial arrangements are concerned, instead of making grants to local authorities for land acquisition, I intend that the land should be provided under the powers of Section 30 of the Highways Act, 1971. It is the Government's intention that, once the lorry parks are firmly established, the land should be sold to the operators.The question of quality licensing of the lorry parks, which becomes important only when they come into operation, requires further study and, possibly, legislation at some future time.

    Cambrian Coast Line

    88.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment

    HOUSING PERFORMANCE 1970 AND 1971 COMPARED
    Great BritainStarted000sCompleted000s
    PUBLIC SECTOR19701971differenceper cent.19701971differenceper cent.
    Q1 (Jan.—Mar.)29·029·9+·9+342·841·6-1·2-3
    Q2 (Apr.—Jun.)47·339·2-8·1-1744·438·1-6·3-14
    Q3 (Jul.—Sep.)41·535·0-6·5-15½44·436·6-7·8-17½
    October13·912·1-1·8-1315·913·8-2·2-13½
    Total131·7116·2-15·6-12147·6130·1-17·5-12
    PRIVATE SECTOR
    Q129·640·7+11·1+37½37·140·5+3·4+9
    Q247·451·8+4·4+9½41·445·4+4·0+9½
    Q346·657·5+10·9+23½45·250·1+4·9+11
    October17·419·7+2·3+1316·417·5+1·2+7
    Total141·0169·7+28·6+20½140·1153·5+13·4+9½
    TOTAL
    Q158·770·6+11·9+20½80·082·1+2·2+2½
    Q294·791·0-3·7-485·883·4-2·4-3
    Q388·192·5+4·4+589·686·7-2·9-3
    October31·331·7+0·5+1½32·331·3-1·0-3
    Total272·8285·8+13·1+5287·383·6-4·1-1½

    Motorways (Fog)

    94.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has for improving safety on motorways in the light of recent multiple crashes in fog.

    The vital contribution is the one that drivers make if he is satisfied that the methods used in the cost/benefit study submitted to him of the Cambrian coast line are accurate and fairly represent both the cost and the benefit; what criticisms have been sent to him of such methods of cost/benefit study; and if he will make a statement.

    Some criticisms have been made to me of this study. In the present state of knowledge, the useful tool of cost/benefit analysis cannot be totally accurate and decisive, and allowance must be made accordingly. This I shall do

    House Building

    89.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many houses, private and public, were built in the year June, 1970, to June, 1971; and how many houses have been built and started in the year November, 1970, to November, 1971, both private and public.

    Following is the information:themselves. But my right hon. Friend's meeting with the police and the vehicle users' organisations produced some good suggestions, which are being followed up.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what number of fog warning lights were fit for use on Monday, 29th November, 1971, between exits 29 and 4, on the M1 north- and south-bound carriageways.

    A5111 Bypass (Allestree)

    91.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he can now announce the likely date for a public inquiry into the proposed route for the A5111 bypass through Allestree, Derby.

    I have nothing at present to add to the reply I gave to the hon. Member on 24th November.

    M5 (Exeter)

    95.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in view of the speed-up in spending on regional infrastructures, he will advance the programme of construction of the MS motorway in the Exeter area.

    I appreciate my hon. Friend's concern, but construction of this part of the motorway cannot be started until the completion of the statutory procedures for settling its line and acquiring land.

    M5 (Surface Repairs)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the total cost of repairs to the M5 motorway since the inception of black-top surfacing.

    The total cost of repairs to the M5 motorway is about £1·6 million since opening to traffic in July, 1962.

    M1

    96.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on what date the signs on the north-bound carriageway of the M1 were changed at Watford Gap to indicate that traffic bound for the north-west should continue along the M1 to the recently opened interchange of the M6.

    99.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the fatal accidents that occurred on the M1 between Luton and Toddington on 29th November, he will consider introducing a winter speed limit of 50 miles per hour on the southern section of the M1.

    Local Authorities (House Building For Sale)

    97.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has for encouraging local authorities to build houses for sale on land in their ownership with a view to ensuring its early release for residential development.

    I am anxious that there should be a good supply of new homes for would-be owner-occupiers, particularly those with modest incomes, and I am encouraging local authorities in the pressure areas to do all they can to that end by releasing land for private building. Private builders and local authorities should co-operate in this objective, and I am convinced that private builders will do the job most efficiently. Nevertheless, if a demand exists which cannot be or is not being met by private builders, I should be prepared to consider proposals from a local authority to build for sale.

    Farm Buildings (Residential Conversion)

    100.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement about his Department's policy towards the development for residential purposes of obsolete farm buildings in rural areas outside towns and villages, in relation to planning procedures.

    The policy is set out in paragraphs 15 to 18 of Development Control Policy Note 4, a copy of which is in the Library.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if it is the policy of his Department to encourage the conversion of obsolete farm buildings into holiday accommodation rather than into full-time residential accommodation, in relation to planning procedures.

    No. The factors mentioned in the Development Control Policy Note to which the hon. Member's attention has been drawn are applicable whether the proposal is to convert obsolete farm buildings into normal residential accommodation or into holiday accommodation.

    War Disability Pensions

    101.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will issue a circular to local housing authorities drawing attention to their power to disregard war disability pensions when operating rent rebate schemes.

    I believe that housing authorities are aware of their discretion to disregard such pensions. The Housing Finance Bill makes obligatory a disregard of £2 a week and gives authorities discretion to disregard the whole of a pension.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will amend the Rating Act, 1966, to exempt war disability pensions as income for purposes of the rate rebate scheme during the session 1971–72.

    The Green Paper "The Future Shape of Local Government Finance" (Cmnd. 4741) outlines a possible new scheme for rate rebates in which up to £2 a week would be disregarded in respect of income from war disability pensions and other payments of a similar kind. Consultations with the local authority associations on the various issues outlined in the Green Paper are now being held; if the Government decide to promote an extended rate rebate scheme, it would be embodied in legislation which they aim to introduce at the earliest opportunity after consultations are complete.

    Lavatory Seats

    102.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, and for what reason, when the Government proposes to purchase lavatory seats, preference is given to those which are manufactured in Systeme Internationale metric units even if they are more expensive than those produced to imperial measurement.

    No. The Government purchase, or specify in building contracts, lavatory seats conforming to British Standard No. 1254, which gives imperial sizes with metric equivalents for guidance. No question of extra cost arises.

    Voluntary Organisations (Working Party)

    103.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many meetings Mr. Stevenson's Working Party on voluntary organisations has held with individuals and organisations to determine their views.

    Mr. Stevenson and members of his working party have collected written evidence from some 250 persons and organisations. They have interviewed many hundreds of people up and down the country, and Mr. Stevenson has himself made three tours, each of three to four days' duration. The first was to the South-West of England and to Wales, the second to the North of England, and the third to Scotland. In addition, he has set up research projects involving social science students at various universities, and he is conducting a national sample survey of local authorities on the subjects for which he is responsible. He has held a number of half-day meetings at the Department of the Environment, and he has had more than 30 more informal meetings with members of his group.I know that the House would wish to thank Mr. Stevenson for the vigour with which he has tackled this task.

    Local Authority Tenants (Eviction)

    105.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he proposes to terminate the application of the Small Tenements Recovery Act, 1838, regarding the eviction of local authority tenants.

    Railways (Financial Losses)

    104.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has read the document, "Why do the world's railways lose money", sent to him by the hon. Member for Bristol, North-East, and if he will take its conclusions into account when formulating his transport policies.

    I have read the paper with interest. I am writing to my hon. Friend about it.

    Tenants (Harassment)

    107.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he proposes to introduce legislation to impose increased penalties for harassment of tenants.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member for Islington, South-West (Mr. George Cunningham) on 24th November, 1971.—[Vol. 826, c. 364.]

    Green Belts (Designation)

    108.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress he can announce in the designation of Green Belts.

    I am at present consulting county councils in the South-East on securing some early additions to London's green belt. This follows the Government's approval in principle of a strategic plan for the region. Elsewhere, further progress depends on related regional and local studies.

    Local Authorities (Members' Attendance Allowances)

    110.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to announce the rates for local authority members' attendance allowances.

    Motorways (Surface Repairs)

    113.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what were, respectively, the cost of maintenance and repairs on the black-top M5 between Quinton and Strensham, and on the reinforced concrete M6 between Lancaster and the north end of the Preston bypass, in the first five years after con- struction and in the last five years, respectively.

    I regret that figures cannot be given for the lengths and periods requested, but costs on the concrete section of the M6 in Lancashire over the past five years are estimated at £56,000, and for black-top on the M5 in Worcestershire the corresponding figures are approximately £350,000 general maintenance and £1·6 million for major repairs.

    European Economic Community

    115.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consultations he is holding with Ministers of the European Economic Community concerning policies to combat pollution of rivers, lakes, and the sea around the British coast.

    I am in contact with Ministers of European countries on water pollution problems of international concern.

    Compensation Code

    116.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects to publish the results of his review of the compensation code.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment has promised to make a statement when the review is completed.

    Effluent Data (Petition)

    117.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has considered the petition presented to him in September, 1971, by Friends of the Earth, The New Law Journal and the Anglers' Co-operative Association asking for public disclosure of effluent data available to his Department, river authorities, local authorities and the Clean Air Inspectorate; and if he will make a statement.

    I am sending a reply this week. I shall let the hon. Member have a copy.

    Questions To Ministers

    120.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will publish a copy of the circular headed Inspired Parliamentary Questions, reference RC 30/1, in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

    M15 (Newham)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether his proposals for the route of the M15 within the London Borough of Newham will be modified to take account of the reports of the firms of consultants who were appointed by his predecessor to study the social effects of the siting of urban motorways.

    Research studies by consultants into various problems of fitting major roads into urban areas were undertaken for the Urban Motorways Committee. Its report is expected next year; it would be premature to attempt to consider its relevance for the M15.

    SCHEMES GIVEN FINAL APPROVAL BY THE DEPARTMENT, ALLOWING WORK TO START
    Local AuthorityName of SchemeAcreageEstimated Gross Cost £
    Bolton CBCMortfield Bleachworks 3563,518
    Farnsworth BCHall Lane (Moses Gate)4446,315
    Lancashire CCHall Lane Chemical Works (Little Lever UD)3887,870
    Lancashire CCHoddesden Colliery (Turton UD)2411,985
    Little Lever UDCHigh Street13,005
    Little Lever UDCMelrose Road512,000
    Little Lever UDCStopes Road97,000
    Turton UDCEagley Mills624,278
    Turton UDCOusel Nest Brickworks1325,666
    OTHER SCHEMES WHICH LOCAL AUTHORITIES HAVE NOTIFIED THEIR INTENTION TO UNDERTAKE INCLUDE:
    Local AuthorityName of SchemeAcreageEstimated Gross Cost £
    Bolton CBCGilnow Bleachworks10100,000
    Bolton CBCPike Mill6·544,000
    Bolton CBCSpa Road613,000
    Bolton CBCJethro Street720,250
    Bolton CBCHall Lane Sewage Works10·511,000
    Bolton CBCDaubill Brickworks515,000
    Bolton CBCLever Street35,000
    Farnsworth BCFarnsworth Bleachery10*
    Farnsworth BCRailway Land3*
    Lancashire CCFarnsworth Bridge17*
    Lancashire CCLadyshore Colliery, Little Lever44*
    Lancashire CCHart Common, Westhoughton25*
    Lancashire CCEatock, Westhoughton2068,000
    Little Lever UDCStopes Lane107,000
    Turton UDCLittle Brow1·65,300
    Turton UDCEdgeworth Quarries2993,000
    Turton UDCTurton Bottoms4·516,200
    Turton UDCHarwood Vale5·620,000
    * Not yet known.

    Motorcycles (Passenger Insurance)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will seek powers to remove the need for passenger insurance to be paid in respect of such motorcycles or mopeds as are incapable of carrying passengers.

    Land Reclamation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the land reclamation schemes currently in progress or planned in Bolton, Farnworth, Westhoughton, Turton and Little Lever, giving the acreage covered by each scheme and the estimated cost of each project.

    Seat Belts And Crash Helmets

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to remove the obligation to wear crash helmets at present imposed on motorcyclists.

    Railway Line (Holyhead-Chester)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he proposes to continue grant aid for the Holy-head-Chester railway line; and if he will make a statement.

    The Railways Board's applications for the renewal of grant for this service and others are now being studied. I shall make a general statement early next year.

    Motorways (Safety Barriers)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion of each motorway has safety barriers on the central reservation.

    I regret that the information is not readily available. I will however write to the hon. Member on the subject as soon as possible.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the total outlay on the installation of safety barriers on the central reservations of motorways.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what would be the cost of erecting safety barriers for the total length of all existing motorways.

    Code Of Practice On Safe Loading

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what measures he is proposing to reduce the number of accidents resulting from insecure loading before the implementation of the Code of Practice on Safe Loading.

    The police and my Department's Traffic Examiners will continue to devote as much effort as possible to the enforcement of the relevant regulations.

    M4 (Bristol)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will ensure that traffic using the M4 motorway from London, bound for Devon and Cornwall, is not signposted through the northeastern suburbs of Bristol;(2) what steps he proposes to take to discourage traffic bound for Devon and Cornwall from London, using the M4 motorway to Bristol prior to completion of the Avon Bridge.

    There is no proposal to direct this traffic through the suburbs of Bristol and I propose to discourage it from leaving M4 in the Bristol area by means of suitable publicity.

    Government Offices (Dispersal)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what contribution his Department has made to the review of dispersal policy currently being undertaken by the Civil Service Department.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the Answer given in reply to a Question by him by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Civil Service Department on 8th December.—[Vol. 827, c. 327]

    Housing For Disabled

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he is taking to assist local authorities in the design of special houses for the disabled.

    In circulars issued in 1964 and 1970 the attention of local authorities was drawn to the comprehensive manual of technical information and guidance "Designing for the Disabled" written by Mr. Selwyn Goldsmith and published by the Royal Institute of British Architects. The circular of 1964 also invited local authorities or anyone else intending to make special housing provision for the disabled to discuss the matter with the Departments' architects.

    Motorways (Lighting)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he intends to make a decision concerning the future policy of his Department in regard to the installation of lighting on motorways, after his studies of lighting on the M62 and of specially vulnerable lengths of motorway.

    Lighting on M62 and other selected lengths of motorways is being installed under existing policy.I am reviewing my policy in respect of lengths of motorway which we can identify as particularly prone to fog.

    Land Acquisition (Compensation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects to complete his review of compensation, in particular for loss of economic livelihood, resulting from the acquisition of land for public purchases.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment has promised to make a statement when the review is complete.

    Heavy Goods Vehicles (Driving Test)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will take steps to rectify the situation arising under transport legislation whereby experienced heavy goods vehicle drivers who were unable to take advantage of the six month qualifying period are now unemployed, and precluded by cost from obtaining a vehicle and taking the test.

    I do not accept my hon. Friend's implication and have no proposals for further legislation.

    Weymouth (Proposed Hoverport)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why, in the matter of announcing the Minister's decision against Weymouth becoming a cross-Channel hoverport, the Press was made aware of the decision before the Council was informed; and why the decision letter was sent to the parliamentary agents at an address in Broadway when they never had such an address.

    My Department did not inform the Press of the decision. The decision letter was originally addressed to the agents by mistake at No. 18 Broadway instead of No. 28. A second letter was sent by hand to the correct address as soon as the mistake was brought to the Department's notice.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why he reversed the decision of his inspector in relation to the proposal for Weymouth becoming a cross-Channel hoverport.

    My right hon. Friend was not satisfied that the making of the proposed harbour revision order was desirable in the terms (of Section 14) of the Harbours Act, 1964.

    A1, Holloway Road

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions have taken place between his Department and the Greater London Council regarding the widening of the Al, Holloway Road, N.19; and if he will make a statement.

    We are considering for inclusion in the preparation list a Greater London Council proposal for widening between Tufnell Park Road and the Archway intersection. Detailed discussions with the Greater London Council will take place later.

    British Rail (Richmond-Broad Street)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions he has had with British Rail regarding the future of the North London Line, Richmond to Broad Street; and if he will make a statement.

    Railway Workshops

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the value of outside orders placed with British Railways workshops for rolling stock in the years 1969, 1970, and so far in 1971.

    I am informed by the British Railways Board that the respective figures are £900,000, £5,300,000 and £1 million.

    Bus Fares

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why he will not introduce legislation to compel bus companies to provide half fares for children up to the school-leaving age.

    Concessions for children have normally to be met out of higher fares for adults. This is a matter in the first instance for the commercial judgment of operators.

    Thomas Cook & Son Limited

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects the Transport Holding Company to publish its prospectus for the sale of Thomas Cook & Son Limited.

    I understand from the Transport Holding Company that the prospectus will be available tomorrow. I am arranging for copies to be placed in the Library.

    Protected Buildings (Norwich)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if any additional buildings will be included in scheduled categories in the Timberhill area of Norwich as the result of a recent review by the Ministry.

    MEMBERSHIP OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON DISTINCTION AWARDS
    NameN.H.S. Appointment
    Sir Hector MacLennan (Chairman)Retired Consultant in Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Glasgow.
    Professor T. CrawfordHon. Consultant in Pathology, St. George's Hospital, London.
    Professor Sir Geoffrey OrganeHon. Consultant in Anaesthetics, Westminster Hospital, London.
    Professor Sir Norman JeffcoateHon. Consultant in Obstetrics and Gynaecology, United Liverpool Hospitals.
    Lord RosenheimHon. Consultant in Medicine, University College Hospital, London.
    Sir Thomas Holmes SellorsRetired Hon. Consultant in Thoracic Surgery, London.
    Sir John BruceRetired Hon. Consultant in Surgery, Edinburgh.
    Dr. S. R. F. WhittakerRegional Consultant in Medicine, Warwick and Associated Hospitals.
    Professor W. R. S. DollHon. Consultant in Medicine, Oxford United Hospitals.
    Dr. Christopher ClaysonRetired Consultant in Respiratory Diseases, Dumfries.
    Professor Stanley AlsteadRetired Hon. Consultant in Medicine, Glasgow.
    Professor A. L. D'AbreuRetired Hon. Consultant in Thoracic Surgery, Birmingham.
    Sir John PeelRetired Hon. Consultant in Obstetrics and Gynaecology, London.
    Professor H. N. RobsonNo N.H.S. Appointment (Vice-Chancellor of the University of Sheffield).
    Dr. A. B. MonroConsultant in Mental Health, Long Grove Hospital, Epsom.
    Dr. P. R. EvansHon. Consultant in Paediatrics, The Hospital for Sick Children, London.
    Mr. W. W. WilsonRegional Consultant in Surgery, Wigan and Associated Hospitals.
    Dr. J. BullHon. Consultant in Radiology, National Hospital for Nervous Diseases, London.

    Yes. Two buildings in Timberhill are already on the statutory list, and some 15 buildings are to be added to the list.

    Scotland

    Housing

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the number of owner-occupied houses and publicly-owned houses, including new towns and Scottish special housing associations, respectively, in Scotland at the latest available date.

    National Health Service (Merit Awards)

    121.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names and the positions held in the National Health Service of the members of the committee which decides who will be the recipients and the value of the merit awards and state criteria used to determine the value of each award and whether there is a limit to the total amount paid in merit awards each year.

    There is a present a vacancy for a Vice-Chairman of the Committee in place of Sir John Macpherson who died recently.

    In making its recommendations as to which of the four categories of award should be granted in each particular case, the Advisory Committee has regard to special contributions to medicine in the field of research or otherwise, exceptional ability, or outstanding professional work. The numbers and monetary values of the awards are recommended by the independent Review Body on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration, and the total amount paid in awards each year reflects those numbers and values.

    Unqualified Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what his intentions are about the future of the reference panel system for the appointment of unqualified teachers in secondary and special schools; and if he will make a statement.

    I have informed education authorities that, because of the improvement in the staffing of secondary schools that is expected in session 1972–73, I have decided that, with effect from 1st August next, the temporary employment of unqualified teachers should no longer be permitted in these schools. I shall lay the necessary amending regulations before the House in due course.So far as special schools are concerned, the panel system will continue until the date on which it is scheduled to lapse, namely, 31st July, 1973.

    Posts And Telecommunications

    Television Channels

    122.

    asked the Minister for Posts and Telecommunications what uses he is considering for the channel described as TV4.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the replies I gave to him and to the hon. Members for Derby, North (Mr. Whitehead), for Newcastle-under-Lyme (Mr. Golding) and for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell), on 8th December.—[Vol. 827, c. 1270–1; c. 305.]

    Government Departments (Dispersal)

    asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications what contribution his Department has made to the review of dispersal policy currently being undertaken by the Civil Service Department.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given him by my hon. Friend the Parliamentary Secretary to the Civil Service Department on 8th December.—[Vol. 827, c. 328.]

    Television Reception

    asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications (1) what has been the total capital expenditure in the last five years on the BBC2 television channel and the arrangements for its reception in different parts of the country;(2) what has been the total expenditure over the last five years on the improvement of television reception in the Mid-Wales area.

    I understand from the broadcasting authorities that in the last five years £6·5 million has been spent on BBC2 transmitting stations, 12½ per cent. of it for Wales, and £150,000 on four I.T.A. transmitters serving parts of the mid-Wales area.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Waste (Dumping At Sea)

    123.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has for bringing under statutory control waste dumping beyond territorial waters.

    I expect a Convention to control dumping in the North East Atlantic area to be concluded by the countries concerned in the very near future. We would introduce legislation to implement the Convention when Parliamentary time permits.

    Poultry Slaughterhouses (Registration)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce legislation amending the Slaughter of Poultry Act, 1967, to require the registration of premises where poultry is slaughtered by methods other than mechanical stunning.

    No. The Act empowers officers appointed by the local authority to enter any premises in its area where poultry is slaughtered, in order to check that the Act and the provisions as to method of slaughter are being observed. This power is not restricted to premises where a stunning instrument is in use. A wider registration requirement is not considered necessary.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce legislation requiring all classes of poultry slaughterhouses to be registered with local authorities.

    I have been asked to reply.No. Powers already exist under the Food and Drugs Act, 1955, to make an Order requiring the registration of such premises but it has not been found necessary to use these powers in view of the control exercisable under the Food Hygiene Regulations.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what evidence he has concerning direct and indirect Government assistance to the horticultural industry in each member country of the Common Market; and whether he will publish the evidence.

    My Department keeps under constant review the continual flow of information which it receives about state aids which may benefit horticulture in E.E.C. countries and my right hon. Friend does not propose to publish this. Details of national schemes of assistance to farmers and growers in Member States were however given in a paper issued by the Commission on the Mansholt Plan.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is now able to state the estimated Exchequer cost of the special help which is to be given to the horticultural, agricultural and fruit industries by way of compensation to offset the adverse effects to these industries on Great Britain joining the European Economic Community.

    Home Department

    Housing Aid Centres

    124.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department which local authorities have taken advantage of the £170,000 made available by the Government for housing aid centres to help areas of special need.

    There is no fixed prior allocation of funds for this purpose. Housing authorities are free to set up or assist housing aid centres, and those whose areas have special social needs may include such projects among those for which they seek urban programme grant. Thirty-eight authorities in England have so far received approvals for such grant, in respect of a total of 43 projects. Seventeen of these approvals were of capital expenditure amounting in total to £200,000; the other 26 approvals related to non-capital commitments amounting in total to £92,000 annually.Following are the details:

    HOUSING AID CENTER PROJECTS APPROVED UNDER THE URBAN PROGRAMME
    January, 1971CapitalNon-capital (per annum for 5 years unless otherwise stated)
    ££
    LONDON
    Hackney25,000
    Hammersmith19,250
    Haringey5,000
    Lambeth5,000
    Southwark6,800
    Tower Hamlets5,000*
    OTHERS
    Birkenhead5,000
    Blackburn2,000
    Gateshead600
    Leeds10,350
    Liverpool4,500
    Manchester6,500
    Newcastle-on-Tyne6,800†
    Norwich10,000
    Nottingham10,000
    Salford40,000
    Sheffield2,000
    Slough3,626
    Stockport2,000
    Totals£127,600£41,826
    Grand Total£169,426
    Approvals given in August, 1971Capital £ Non-capital (per annum for 5 years unless otherwise stated)£
    London
    Brent4,000
    Camden10,000
    Greenwich2,500
    Islington6,200
    Lewisham5,000
    Greater London Council2,000
    OTHERS
    Barrow1,000
    Birmingham4,000
    Bradford3,000
    Bristol2,500
    Coventry2,500
    Newcastle-on-Tyne2,000
    Portsmouth1,500
    Southampton2,000
    Stockport1,500
    Slough1,000
    Total£50,700
    Approvals given in October, 1971
    ALL AREAS
    Barnsley10,000
    Barrow10,000
    Doncaster10,000
    Kingston-on-Hull10,000
    Liverpool6,000
    Newcastle-on-Tyne10,000
    Pontefract5,000
    Teesside10,700
    Total£71,700
    In addition, grant-aid under the Urban Programme has been given to a number of local authorities for the purpose of employing additional staff to deal with housing problems arising in their areas. All approved projects attract 75 per cent. Exchequer grant.

    * One year only.

    † Includes Family Advice centre.

    Magistrates' Courts (Trial Notes)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will specify the magistrates' courts in England in which the clerks refuse to take contemporaneous notes of summary trials; and what direction he has issued in this connection.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to require a contemporaneous note of proceedings tried summarily in magistrates' courts to be kept by the clerk of the court.

    This is one of the recommendations made in the Law Society's memorandum on appeals from the criminal jurisdiction of magistrates' courts, which my right hon. Friend is studying.

    Magistrates' Courts (Appeals In Criminal Cases)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement concerning his policy with regard to the memorandum submitted to him by the Law Society on changes in the law and practice on appeals in criminal cases from magistrates' courts.

    My right hon. Friend is studying the memorandum, but he has no statement to make at present.

    Death Sentence (Treason)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in view of the desuetude of the penalty, he will now abolish the death sentence for acts of treason.

    My right hon. Friend has no present plans for legislation on this subject.

    Coroners (Brodrick Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has now considered the Report of the Brodrick Committee on Coroners; and if he will now make a statement.

    The Report was published only last month. It will require a good deal of discussion and consideration before the Government's conclusions about its recommendations can be announced.

    Civil Service

    Washington New Town (Government Offices)

    125.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service, in view of the Government's decision not to go ahead with the Inland Revenue computer centre planned for Washington New Town, County Durham, what investigation his Department intend to carry out in order to build a new Government office on the 800,000 square feet site that had been made available for the computer centre by the Washington New Town Development Corporation.

    As my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister told the hon. Member on 7th December, this question is already being considered. The North-East is being studied along with other locations as part of the current dispersal review.—[Vol. 827, c. 1117–8.]

    Regional Employment

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service (1) what was the number of candidates from within the Civil Service and from open and limited examinations, respectively, for the executive class in each of the following geographical areas who were tested by the

    OPEN COMPETITION CANDIDATES
    19661967196819691970
    Great Britain
    Tested99524388371548
    Passed58316235213353
    London and South-East England
    Tested31239146124258
    Passed201439278159
    Scotland
    Tested1787906793
    Passed1047492942
    West-Central Scotland
    Tested1143443748
    Passed619231124
    Limited Competition Candidates
    19661967196819691970
    Great Britain
    Tested681251247
    Passed49821030
    London and South-East England
    Tested2856513
    Passed213737
    Scotland
    Tested71416
    Passed4914
    West-Central Scotland
    Tested26
    Passed4

    Employment

    Pembroke

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what were the numbers of registered male unemployed in the county of Pembroke

    Civil Service Commission for aptitude as computer programmers or systems analysts in each of the years 1966 to 1970, namely, Great Britain, London and South-East England, Scotland, and West-Central Scotland;

    (2) what was the number of candidates from within the Civil Service and from open and limited examinations, respectively, for the executive class, in each of the following geographical areas, who were found, after testing, to have aptitude for selection as computer programmers or systems analysts in each of the years 1966 to 1970, namely, Great Britain, London and South-East England, Scotland, and West-Central Scotland.

    Aptitude testing by the Civil Service Commission is limited to computer programming. The necessary information is not available about the number of candidates from within Service, but the numbers from open and limited competitions are as follows:in July and November, 1961, and February, 1962, and in the corresponding months of every year up to November, 1971, together with the respective percentage unemployment rates;(2) what were the numbers of registered female unemployed in the county of Pembroke in July and November, 1961, and February, 1962, and in the corresponding months of every year up to November, 1971, together with the respective percentage unemployment rates.

    MalesFemales
    Registered unemployedPercentage rateRegistered unemployedPercentage rate
    July, 19618305·11532·3
    November, 19611,3348·33264·9
    February, 19621,3918·23424·7
    July, 19621,0055·92012·8
    November, 19621,4158·34185·7
    February, 19632,24012·64596·6
    July, 19637134·02183·1
    November, 19638094·54256·1
    February, 19647514·14215·6
    July, 19645162·82563·4
    November, 19641,3817·53865·1
    February, 19651,4028·25256·8
    July, 19658795·22643·4
    November, 19651,0206·05216·7
    February, 19669845·75877·3
    July, 19665102·92993·7
    November, 19668915·14225·2
    February, 19677293·74335·2
    July, 19675092·62022·4
    November, 19676973·64495·4
    February, 19687663·94415·2
    July, 19681,1015·52162·5
    November, 19681,4017·03994·7
    February, 19691,5298·24645·4
    July, 19691,0055·42643·1
    November, 19691,5508·33704·3
    February, 19701,8229·74214·8
    July, 19701,5398·22592·9
    November, 19701,5468·34034·6
    February, 19711,7839·54685·3
    July, 19711,5198·13363·8
    November, 19711,6198·75035·7

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what were the numbers of females in full-time employment in the county of Pembroke in July and November, 1961, and February, 1962, and in the corresponding months of every year up to November, 1971;(2) what were the numbers of males in full-time employment in the county of Pembroke in July and November, 1961, and February, 1962, and in the corresponding months of every year up to November, 1971.

    Employment estimates for local areas are made for each mid-year and the latest are for June, 1970. They include both full-time and part-time employees but do not distinguish between them. Following is the available information:

    Numbers registered as unemployment and percentage rates of unemployment in the county of Pembroke.

    ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES IN EMPLOYMENT IN THE COUNTY OF PEMBROKE

    (Thousands)

    Males

    Females

    June, 196116·96·3
    June, 196218·96·9
    June, 196317·06·8
    June, 196418·17·5
    June, 196516·27·6
    June, 196616·87·7
    June, 196719·28·1
    June, 196818·98·3
    June, 196917·58·4
    June, 197017·38·6

    Labour-Only Sub-Contracting (Insurance)

    128.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he is taking to ensure the enforcement of the provisions of the Employers' Liability (Compulsory Insurance) Act, 1969, among labour-only sub-contractors in the building industry when the Act comes into operation on 1st January, 1972.

    The provisions of the Act will apply to labour-only subcontractors only in so far as they employ people under a contract of service, when they will be subject to the same enforcement procedure as employers in general.

    House Of Commons

    Members (Delegations)

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will give, for the longest and most convenient stated period of time, the amounts of moneys drawn by Members of Parliament in travel and subsidence allowances when attending overseas conferences such as the Council of Europe and Western European Union, to which they have been selected as delegates; and the amount of daily subsistence allowances allocated for these visits.

    Since 1st April, 1971, when financial responsibility for overseas parliamentary delegations was transferred to the House of Commons Vote, travel and subsistence costs totalling £27,218 have been incurred in connection with Members' attendance at meetings of the Council of Europe and Western European Union. There has been no change in the rates of daily subsistence allowances since the reply I gave the hon. Member on 2nd February.—[Vol. 810, c. 361.]

    Defence

    Northern Ireland

    asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances the Army was called to a furniture store on the Shankill Road, Belfast, bombed by the Irish Republican Army on Saturday, 11th December; what sort of bomb was used; with what result; and what arrests were made.

    At 12.49 p.m. on 11th December a bomb exploded at the Balmoral Furnishing Shop, Shankill Road, completely demolishing the building, killing two men and two babies—one aged seven months and the other aged two years—nd injuring 22 people. Army ammunition technical officers estimate the bomb contained 30–50 lb. of explosives, though the exact type of bomb and initiating device used has not yet been established. No arrests have yet been made and investigations into this incident are continuing.

    asked the Minister of State for Defence under what circumstances the Army was called to the home of Senator John Barnhill in Northern Ireland on Sunday, 12th December; what events had taken place; and what arrests were made.

    At 6.45 p.m. on 12th December, two armed men went to the house of Senator John Barnhill near Strabane. They fired two shots at Senator Barnhill, killing him. They dragged his body into the drawing room and placed a bomb near it. Mrs. Barnhill was then ordered to leave the house. The bomb, estimated to be between 30–50 lb., exploded, demolishing part of the house. No arrests have yet been made and investigations are continuing.

    Weather Forecasts (Expenditure)

    asked the Minister of State for Defence what was the total expenditure on weather forecasts for 1969–70 and 1970–71.

    The gross cost of those Meteorological Office headquarters branches and outstation offices engaged in providing weather forecasts for the Royal Air Force, the Army, civil aviation and the general public (including public utilities, industry, etc.) was about £9 million in 1969–70, and about £9·4 million in 1970–71.

    Education And Science

    Swansea College Of Education (Dispute)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action she will take under her 1944 Act powers to establish an independent inquiry into the present dispute at Swansea College of Education.

    This dispute concerns the expulsion of a student on academic grounds. The Articles of Government of this College lay down procedures to be followed in the event of the expulsion of a student, including a procedure for appeal. These Articles have been approved by my Department, as required by Section 1 of the Education (No. 2) Act, 1968.On the facts at present before me, the procedures have been correctly followed, and I therefore see no reason for an inquiry.

    Independent Schools (Nottinghamshire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will name the independent schools in the county of Nottinghamshire which are registered under the Education Act, 1944; if she will name those which are recognised as efficient by her Department; and what action she is taking to ensure that those not recognised as efficient will have their standards raised to the recognised levels.

    The following schools are registered; those recognised as efficient are marked by an asterisk:

    • Angela House School, West Bridgford.
    • Attenborough Preparatory School, Attenborough.
    • *The Becket School. West Bridgford.
    • *Bramcote School. Retford.
    • Bahworth Road School, Retford.
    • Coteswood House, Woodthorpe.
    • Dagfa House, Beeston.
    • Edgehill School, Southwell.
    • Edwalton Preparatory School, Edwalton.
    • *Grosvenor School, Edwalton.
    • Hazel Hurst Preparatory School, Mapperley.
    • The Kindergarten, Elton.
    • Locksley Preparatory School, West Bridgford.
    • Lurne House School, Retford.
    • Lynton House School. Radcliffe-on-Trent.
    • *Mattersey Hall Preparatory School, Doncaster.
    • *Newark Preparatory School.
    • *P.N.E.U. School, Loughborough.
    • *Ranby House School, Retford.
    • Rodney School, Newark.
    • *St. Hugh's College, Tollerton.
    • St. Patrick's Private R.C. School, Doncaster.
    • Saville House School, Mansfield Woodhouse.
    • West Bridgford High School, West Bridgford.
    • Wellow House, Newark.
    • *Worksop College, Worksop.
    On the last part of the Question I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Flint, West (Sir A. Meyer) on 14th January, 1971.—[Vol. 809, c.

    103.]

    Minor Works Programme, Hull

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many extra jobs she anticipates will be created in Hull as a result of the bringing forward of part of the minor works programme for 1973–74 to 1972–73.

    My right hon. Friend has asked local education authorities to let her know by the end of January whether they intend to bring forward to 1972–73 up to half of their minor works allocation for 1973–74. The number of extra jobs created will depend on the value and nature of projects brought forward, which is within the discretion of local authorities.

    Young Workers (Day Continuation Classes)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the percentage of the total of working young people under 18 years of age who attend day continuation classes through voluntary release by their employers.

    In 1970 the figure for England and Wales was about 24 per cent.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Rhodesia

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make arrangements for official visits by Members of the House of Commons to observe the processes of consultation to be carried out in Rhodesia by the Pearce Commission.

    I am considering the possibility of arranging for a small delegation from this House to pay a visit to Rhodesia while the Pearce Commission is operating to see at first hand how the fifth principle is being applied.

    Diplomatic Service (Premature Retirement)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether discussions with the diplomatic service staff on outstanding issues relating to the compensation terms for premature retirement have now been completed.

    Yes. Agreement has been reached with the Diplomatic Service Staff Side on the compensation terms for premature retirement as a whole. Discussions will continue on one or two points but the implementation of the terms will not be held up.

    Drug Dependence (Council Of Europe Recommendation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what action the Government intend to take on Recommendation 609 on drug dependence adopted by the Council of Europe's Consultative Assembly on 21st September, 1970.

    I have been asked to reply.This Recommendation is addressed to the Committee of Ministers, and its text has been transmitted to Governments only for information. The Committee of Ministers has deferred action pending further reports from the European Public Health Committee and the European Committee on Crime Problems.

    Protection Of Animals During International Transport

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when Her Majesty's Government expect to ratify the European Convention for the Protection of Animals during International Transport.

    I have been asked to reply.This Convention cannot be ratified without additional enabling powers and new and revised subordinate legislation for a wide variety of animals and birds. The enabling powers are being sought in the Agriculture (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill which was introduced in another place on 3rd November, and proposals for subordinate legislation are being prepared. I cannot yet say when this will be completed.

    National Finance

    European Economic Community

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps he proposes to take to safeguard Great Britain's balance of payments on entry into the European Economic Community when free movement of capital will prevent exchange controls being used for this purpose.

    The E.E.C. directives do not require complete freedom of capital movements and safeguards are available to any E.E.C. member who encounters serious balance of payments difficulties. The United Kingdom has agreed to make such changes to our present rules as are necessary in stages over a transitional period of five years, which will limit the initial impact on the reserves.

    Social Services

    Foreign Patients (Private Health Care)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services for each of the last ten years what has been the gain in foreign exchange from patients from abroad seeking private health care in this country; and how many foreign patients each year were involved.

    The information requested in the first part of the Question is not available. Information collected at the ports on the numbers of foreigners entering this country to receive private medical treatment is available for the years 196370, and is as follows:

    19632,154
    19642,042
    19652,406
    19662,544
    19672,297
    19682,300
    19693,355
    19706,112

    Hemiplegics

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, if he will take steps to ensure that the book, Return to Independence, by Trudy Wareham, a copy of which is in his possession, is brought to the notice of hemiplegics and is made readily available in each town, through his officers.

    I have no doubt that health service authorities are already aware of this and other publications by the Chest and Heart Association.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services for each of the next four years what is included under the heading, other, in table 2.17 of the White Paper, Public Expenditure to 1975–76, Command Paper No. 4829.

    The main items, with the estimated costs in 1971–72 (a half-year) and in the later years, are: Improvement of about 3 per cent. in the real value of benefits compared with their 1969 level (£45½ million and £85 million); invalidity allowance and other improvements for the chronic sick (£12½ million and £23½ million); age addition for retirement pensioners over 80 and extension of old persons' pensions (£11 million and £20 million, declining to £18½ million). There were also various minor improvements in national insurance, supplementary benefit and war pensions carried through at the uprating.I regret that the figure for 1972–73 should be £130·6 million (not £.140·6 million as stated) and that for "estimating changes" £42·6 million (not £32·6 million as stated).

    Unsupported Parents

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what, for the most recent date, is his estimate of the percentage of unsupported mothers having an income above and below the level of the supplementary allowance.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the powers which children's departments of local authorities have to enable them to support persons like unsupported or lone parents whose children might otherwise be received into care; whether he is satisfied that such powers are adequate; and if he will make a statement.

    These powers have now been transferred to the social services committees of local authorities. The list is as follows:

    • Section 22 of the National Health Service Act, 1946.
    • Section 21 of the National Assistance Act, 1948.
    • Section 1 of the Children and Young Persons Act, 1963.
    • Section 13 of the Health Services and Public Health Act, 1968.
    We are satisfied that these powers are adequate.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate the percentage and numbers of unsupported mothers living with parents or relatives, in private rented accommodation, in owner-occuper housing or in council housing, etc.

    Full and reliable information is available only for those unsupported mothers—some 212,000 in November 1970, out of a total of about half a million—who were receiving supplementary benefits. Of these, some 55,000 (26 per cent.) were living in the household of a parent, relative or friend; 48,000 (23 per cent.) in private rented accommodation; 13,000 (6 per cent.) in owner-occupied housing; 92,000 (43 per cent.) in local authority housing; and the remaining 4,000 lived rent-free, or in boarding or Part III accommodation, etc. These figures do not include any unsupported mothers in full-time work, who are not eligible for supplementary benefits; and the proportions given are not necessarily representative of unsupported mothers generally.

    Foster Parents

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how the level of supplementary allowance paid for children compares with the amount paid by the average local authority children's department to foster parents; and if he will consider matching these levels.

    The current scale rates for children taken into account in assessing entitlement to supplementary benefit are as follows:

    £
    Aged less than 16 but not less than 13 years3·00
    Aged less than 13 but not less than 11 years2·45
    Aged less than 11 but not less than 5 years2·00
    Aged less than 5 years1·70

    The latest available figure (1969–70) for the average payment made by local authorities for foster children is £3·56 a week per child. We have no plans for increasing the supplementary benefit rates to match this level but they are, of course, kept under close review.

    Pensions (Over-80S)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what were the numbers originally estimated to be eligible for the over-80s pension; and what is the number of successful claims registered so far.

    It was originally estimated that 150,000 persons would qualify for a pension under Section 1 of the National Insurance (Old Persons' and Widows' Pensions and Attendance Allowance) Act, 1970, or under Section 5 of the National Insurance Act, 1971. So far, 156,500 awards have been made.

    Unemployment Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what his plans are for implementing the regulations deferring the payment of temporary unemployment benefit; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will suspend the decision of 24th May, 1971, to stop the payment of unemployment benefit for the first six days of any period of lay-off.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received regarding his policy whereby as from 1st January, 1972, unemployment benefit will not be paid for persons working short-time; and if he will seek to amend the National Insurance Act, 1966 (Commencement No. 3) Order, 1971, so that unemployment benefit is payable to those working short-time.

    I have been impressed by the increasingly strong representations made to me by both sides of industry about the difficulties which the introduction of restrictions on the payment of flat-rate unemployment benefit to workers who have to be laid off for temporary periods by their employer would cause with short-time working and unemployment at their present levels. I have, therefore, decided, without prejudice to the merits of imposing the restrictions at some future date, that they should not now take effect on 1st January, 1972. I shall be making an Order for this purpose shortly.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many organisations have made representations to him opposing the Government decision to stop unemployment benefit for the first six days of any suspension from work as from 1st January, 1972; and if he will publish their names.

    Over 40. I do not think that any useful purpose would be served by publishing their names.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many organisations have made representations to him in support of the Government decision to stop payment of unemployment benefit for the first six days of any suspension from work as from 1st January, 1972; and if he will publish their names.

    Hospital Staff (Anti-Influenza Injections)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if all regional hospital boards and hospital management committees have complied with the request he made in a circular concerning hospital staff, at all grades, and an anti-influenza injection; and if he will make a statement.

    My Chief Medical Officer advised doctors in July, 1970, that vaccine could with advantage be offered to those such as doctors, nurses and ambulance men at special risk of infection. This advice was reiterated last month in the journal Health Trends which is sent to all doctors working in the National Health Service. The advice was not, however, in the form of a request since it is a matter for local decision whether or not to offer vaccination.

    Doctors (Emigration)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will state the number of British-trained doctors who have emigrated from the United Kingdom each year for the last five years.

    Information is not available in the form requested.The latest estimates of the annual net loss by emigration from Great Britain of British- and Irish-born doctors, for the last five years for which figures are available, are as follows:

    1964–65500
    1965–66400
    1966–67450
    1967–68450
    1968–69250
    As more information becomes available about the whereabouts of individual doctors, the estimates may need to be revised, the more so for the later years. In particular, the estimate for 1968–69 may need to be raised.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services with which medical and trade union organisations he has had consultations in regard to the structure and the financing of the National Health Service in the United Kingdom it Great Britain joins the European Economic Community; and if he will make a statement.

    Accession to the European Economic Community does not necessitate any change in the structure and financing of the National Health Service, and there has been no need for such consultations.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish details of the breakdown of the financing of the National Health Service in the United Kingdom and of the health services of the members of the European Economic Community.

    The National Health Service is financed as to about 86 per cent. from general taxation and local authority rates, 10 per cent. from contributions by employers and insured persons under the National Insurance Scheme, and 4 per cent. from charges to users.I have no comparable information with regard to the countries of the European Economic Community, where medical benefits are provided as part of the contributory insurance schemes.

    Trade And Industry

    Special Development Area (Teesside)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether in view of the further redundancies announced by Imperial Chemical Industries Limited on 10th December, 1971 and the present record level of unemployment, he will now declare Teesside a special development area.

    I have at present nothing to add to the reply given by my hon. Friend, the Under Secretary of State for Trade, to the right hon. Member for Middlesbrough, East (Mr. Bottomley) on 18th October.—[Vol. 823, c. 27.]

    Atomic Energy Authority (Staff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the reduction in the numbers of staff employed by the Atomic Energy Authority consequent upon the transfer of the Atomic Weapons Research Establishment to the Ministry of Defence; and in particular what are the consequences now anticipated upon employment at the Atomic Energy Authority's superannuation office in Thurso, Caithness.

    Subject to Parliamentary approval of the transfer, rather less than a third of the Authority's present employees will be transferred to the Ministry of Defence. The transfer is not expected to cause a significant reduction in the present work-load of the Authority's Superannuation Office at Thurso, since many of the transferred employees are likely to remain in the Authority's pension scheme.

    Government Factory, Newhouse

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what provisions he has made to advertise the tenancy of the Government factory being vacated by Meredith and Drew in the Newhouse Industrial Estate.

    The company has only recently announced its intention of closing and the premises will not be vacated for some time. Arrangements exist for bringing all the Department's vacant factories to the attention of potential occupiers and these will be applied in the present case.

    Investment Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is his Department's policy on the payment of investment grant on expenditure incurred on or after 27th October, 1970; and whether he will make a statement.

    The Investment and Buildings Grants Act, 1971, in general precludes the Department from making an investment grant on expenditure incurred after 26th October, 1970, unless they are satisfied that it consists of a sum payable under a contract made on or before that date. Whether this is so in each case is a matter of law and the particular facts at the relevant date. I am, for instance, advised that no contract exists unless and until an offer has been made and an acceptance which exactly matches the offer has been communicated. The Department do not introduce legal difficulties in order to avoid payment of grant. The onus is on any firm which applies for grant to supply evidence which satisfies the Department.

    Thus the House will understand that an arrangement which on 26th October fell short of a legal contract will not suffice even though it represented normal business practice. For example, an acknowledgment of an order which contains terms or conditions not present in the order does not conclude a contract but represents a counter offer. However, once the Department are satisfied by the evidence provided—and in assembling evidence firms may find it helpful to take legal advice—grant will be made according to existing policy and practice.

    Oil Products Pipeline, Milford Haven

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he has yet reached a decision on the application by Mainline Pipelines Limited to build an oil products pipeline from Milford Haven to the Midlands and to Manchester, which was the subject of a public inquiry earlier in the year.

    Yes. I have decided to accept the Inspector's recommendation that a construction authorisation be granted, subject to certain planning conditions. This 265-mile pipeline, which will be fed from refineries at Milford Haven, will provide a new and important link with the Midlands and the North-West.