Written Answers To Questions
Thursday, 3rd February, 1972
Employment
Draughtsmen
6.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the percentage increase in unemployment among draughtsmen in the 12 months ending June, 1971.
Between June, 1970, and June, 1971, the numbers of wholly unemployed men aged 18 years and over in Great Britain who were registered for employment as draughtsmen increased by 2,142 or 185·5 per cent.
Unskilled Workers
12.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he intends to increase provisions for training unemployed unskilled workers to fit them for skilled or semiskilled vacancies.
Yes. As announced in "Training for the Future", there will be a large increase in the scope and scale of training facilities.
Older Workers
15.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals he has for encouraging the retraining of older workers.
My right hon. Friend has announced a massive expansion of training facilities, which will offer older men and women in common with other workers much wider opportunities for retraining.
Handicapped Persons
16.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will improve the methods of advising his local offices of the technologies and technical means by which a handicapped person's communication problems for employment can be overcome; if he will give greater publicity to the needs for problem solving in all his local offices; if he will consider holding a symposium on problem solving for all his officers concerned; and if he will make a statement.
Disablement resettlement officers receive special guidance about deafness and work closely with social workers for the deaf. I am satisfied that disablement resettlement officers are sufficiently informed of technological developments relevant to their resettlement work.
75.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what records are kept of the methods by which the specific individual employment problems of the physically handicapped are overcome; how such information is stored and distributed to the various local offices of his Department; and if he will make a statement.
A record of every substantially disabled person dealt with by my Department, together with particulars of his resettlement history, is maintained at the local office at which he is registered for employment. Where the solution of an employment problem contains features likely to be of general interest particulars are circulated through regional and sometimes national bulletins. Particular cases are also discussed at case-working sessions during a disablement resettlement officer's advanced training, and also at area and regional group meetings of officers.
Unemployment (Increase)
22.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how much unemployment has risen since 18th June, 1970.
Between June, 1970, and January, 1972, the total number registered as unemployed in Great Britain, including school-leavers and workers who were temporarily stopped, increased by 430,986. Seasonally adjusted, the number registered as wholly unemployed, except school-leavers, increased by 306,700.
Thorne
23.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment why rates of unemployment cannot be calculated for the area of the Thorne Employment Exchange.
The number of people travelling to work who cross employment exchange boundaries in the area covered by the employment exchanges of Doncaster and Thorne is so great that the construction of unemployment percentage rates for the constituent parts of the travel-to-work area would not be meaningful.
Birmingham
24.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what the latest unemployment figures are for Birmingham.
At 10th January, the number of people registered as wholly unemployed in the Birmingham travel-to-work area was 29,397. In addition there were 7,951 who were temporarily stopped.
Employment (Placings)
25.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many men and women, respectively, were placed in employment by his Department during the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what proportion these placings represent of the vacancies notified during the same period.
During the 12 months ended 1st December, 1971, the numbers of men and women placed in employment by employment exchanges were 862,573 and 401,052, respectively. Expressed as percentages of all vacancies for men and women notified to my Department, the figures were 69·6 and 57·6.
Wage Rates
26.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the increase in the index of basic hourly rates of wages in all industries in each three-month period since August, 1970.
The percentage increases in the index of basic hourly rates of wages in each of the three-month periods ending in November, 1970, and February, May, August and November, 1971, were 4·1, 3·8, 2·3, 2·4 and 1·5, respectively.
Manpower Needs
28.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals he has for improving forecasting of manpower needs, and needs for particular skills.
At the moment this is being done through the industrial training boards and my manpower advisers. As to the future, the Development of better manpower intelligence is to be one of the specific tasks of the streamlined employment service and I also expect that this aspect of the work of the training boards will be further developed and co-ordinated by the proposed National Training Agency.
Index Of Retail Prices
29.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the average month-to-month increase in the Index of Retail Prices between June and December 1971, and how this compared with the previous six months.
The average month-to-month percentage increase in the General Index of Retail Prices between June and December, 1971, was 0·4 per cent. The comparable figure for the previous six months was 1·0 per cent.
Dudley And Stourbridge
30.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the latest figures of male and female unemployment in the Dudley and Stourbridge areas.
At 10th January, in the area covered by the Dudley Employment Exchange, 1,690 males and 204 females were registered as unemployed of whom 304 males and seven females were temporarily stopped. In the Stourbridge area, 1,314 males and 129 females were registered as unemployed of whom 207 males and seven females were temporarily stopped.
Vacancies (Notification)
31.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals he has for improving his Department's information on vacancies and encouraging employers to notify them.
Essentially it is only by improving the quality of the employment service that we shall get employers to notify more vacancies to us.
Seaside Towns (Older Workers)
32.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what examination he has made of the incidence of unemployment in the over-55 age group in seaside towns; and if he will make a statement.
We are aware that people aged 55 and over account for a higher proportion of those registered as unemployed in many seaside towns than in the country as a whole. One reason for this is that some men who retire from their normal employment before 65 move to seaside towns and register as unemployed in order to obtain fresh jobs or, if suitable work is not available, claim unemployment benefit and credits of national insurance contributions.
Training
33.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment on what date he intends to publish the review of industrial training boards.
43.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he intends to publish the Green Paper on the future of the industrial training boards.
82.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment on what date he will announce the result of his review of the industrial training boards.
The Government's proposals for industrial training are contained in the booklet "Training for the Future": A Plan for Discussion, which was published on 1st February.
35.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many employers have agreed to make available spare training capacity for training workers at Government expense; and how many training places he expects to become available as a result.
By 21st January my Department had identified about 1,600 spare training places in industry. Agreements have been reached with 90 employers for a total of 950 places and discussions are proceeding with a further 50 employers in respect of the remaining places.
36.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment for how many unemployed workers over the age of 45 years training grants have been paid to employers in development areas.
During 1971, the first year of the Government's scheme, grants were paid to employers in development and intermediate areas towards the training of about 600 workers aged 45 and over. Figures for development and intermediate areas separately are not available.
37.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many Government training centres are now open or under construction; how many places they are expected to provide; and how these numbers compare with a year ago.
A year ago there were 48 centres providing 10,500 training places. Since then I have opened four new centres and am planning to open a further 12 by 1975 when there will be 17,000 training places.
52.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what numbers of apprentices and other workers were in training during each of the last 10 years to December, 1971.
In 1968, 1970 and 1971 there were respectively 1·4 million, 1·6 million and 1·2 million persons including apprentices under training at the date of my Department's inquiries. I regret that earlier information is not available.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will arrange for an early increase in the number and range of Government training centre places available in the Northern Region, in the light of the present unemployment rate; and if he will make a statement.
An additional 160 places will be provided at existing centres. A further 350 places will be made available as soon as possible by utilising unused industrial premises. Courses are already available in 35 skilled trades and I am ready to consider adding others according to local needs.
Vocational Training Scheme
34.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many unemployed young people have entered into courses of training under the Government's vocational training scheme at colleges of further education or in employer's establishments.
Since August, 1971, 719 young people have commenced such courses under the vocational training scheme—571 in colleges of further education and 148 in employers' establishments.
44.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many courses of training for unemployed young people at colleges of further education have been arranged under the Government's Vocational Training Scheme.
Twenty-four courses under the vocational training scheme have been specially arranged for unemployed young people in colleges of further education.
Monmouthshire
38.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many July school leavers remain unemployed in the employment exchange areas of the County of Monmouthshire.
A special count on 24th January showed that there were 121 summer term school leavers still registered as unemployed at careers offices in Monmouthshire. The figures for the individual careers office areas are as follows:
| 1971 summer term school leavers still registered as unemployed on 24th January, 1972 | |||
| Careers Office | Boys | Girls | Total |
| Abertillery | 8 | 8 | 16 |
| Blackwood | 23 | 8 | 31 |
| Newport (County Borough) | 13 | 4 | 17 |
| Cross Keys | 10 | 5 | 15 |
| Pontypool | 11 | 14 | 25 |
| Usk | 1 | 2 | 3 |
| Aberbargoed | 7 | 7 | 14 |
| Total for Monmouthshire | 73 | 48 | 121 |
High Wycombe
39.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the number of unemployed in the area covered by the High Wycombe employment office; the number of outstanding vacancies; and the percentage of unemployed to the total working population in the area.
At 10th January, 742 people were registered as unemployed in the High Wycombe Employment Exchange area and 677 notified vacancies remained unfilled. The rate of unemployment for the High Wycombe, Chesham and Gerrards Cross travel-to-work area was 1·6 per cent. The vacancy statistics relate only to notified vacancies remaining unfilled and do not purport to measure the total unsatisfied demand for labour.
Coal And Paper Industries (The Lothians)
40.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies in the coal and paper industries have been notified to him in the Lothians, and at what industrial undertakings, during the last three month period; and what assistance his Department has given the redundant workers towards finding re-employment.
Redundancies in the Lothians involving some 430 workpeople in the coalmining and 370 in the paper industry were notified to my Department in the three months 12th October, 1971, to 10th January, 1972.
Rotherham, Maltby And Dinnington
41.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the present rate of male unemployment in the Rotherham, Maltby and Dinnington exchange areas; and whether this level of unemployment is higher or lower than the average male unemployment rate in the development areas of England and Wales.
At 10th January the percentage rates of unemployment for males in the Rotherham, Maltby and Dinnington Employment Exchange areas were 8·8, 11·3 and 12·7, respectively. The corresponding figure for the development areas of England and Wales was 8·8 per cent.
North-East Lancashire
42.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest unemployment figures for North-East Lancashire; and if he will make a statement.
At 10th January, 8,534 people were registered as unemployed in the North-East Lancashire Intermediate Area, including 395 who were temporarily stopped. The rate of unemployment was 4·2 per cent. The cotton textile industry, which is so important to the area, should benefit from the greater stability in the United Kingdom market which will result from the import arrangements announced by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on 8th December.
"People And Jobs" (Scotland)
45.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the progress made to implement the proposals contained in "People and Jobs" in Scotland.
The plans for the modernisation of the employment service are being carried forward for Scotland as for the rest of Great Britain, as set out in the report "People and Jobs".
Unemployment (Duration)
46.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proportion of those unemployed at present have been unemployed for more than a year; and what were the corresponding proportions in each of the last 10 years.
Following is the available information.
| Proportion of registered wholly unemployed people in Great Britain who had been registered for more than 52 weeks. | |
| Per cent. | |
| October, 1971 | 15·9 |
| October, 1970 | 17·7 |
| October, 1969 | 17·7 |
| October, 1968 | 16·5 |
| October, 1967 | 13·7 |
| October, 1966 | 12·9 |
| October, 1965 | 16·7 |
| October, 1964 | 18·9 |
| October, 1963 | 17·0 |
| October, 1962 | 12·5 |
| September, 1961 | 16·4 |
Greater London
47.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he proposes to take to increase job opportunities for young persons in the London area.
The Government's economic measures should increase job opportunities for young people in Greater London. In January, there were 3,169 young people unemployed and 7,214 vacancies.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has for dealing with the unemployment position in Greater London.
The extensive measures taken by the Government to expand the economy will, given time, reduce unemployment both in London and the country as a whole.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the total number of redundancies notified to his Department in the Greater London area for the 12-month period ended 31st December, 1971; what was the average per month, and what was the average number of vacancies per month notified.
Redundancies involving 68,000 workpeople were notified to my Department in the Greater London area during the 12-month period ended 31st December, 1971. The average number of redundancies notified per month was 5,667 and the number of vacancies notified per month for men and women was 33,932.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many men between 60 and 65 years of age were unemployed in the Greater London area at 31st December, 1971.
Information is not available for 31st December but at 10th January there were provisionally 10,788 men aged 60 to 64 years registered as wholly unemployed in Greater London.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons are employed in the hotel and catering industry in Greater London; and how many are currently unemployed in the same industry in Great Britain.
At June, 1970, the latest date for which estimates are available, there were 123,300 employees in employment in the hotel and catering industries in Greater London. At January, 1972, the number of people registered as unemployed in Great Britain who last worked in these industries was 41,495.
Dunfermline And Cowdenbeath
48.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies have occurred in the Dunfermline and Cowdenbeath employment exchange areas, respectively, since June, 1970; and how many have been announced as taking place in the next month.
Redundancies involving some 1,620 work-people in the Dunfermline and 80 work-people in the Cowdenbeath employment exchange areas were recorded as due to occur within the period 1st June, 1970, to 21st January, 1972, inclusive. My Department has no knowledge of any redundancies which have been announced as due to occur in these areas from 22nd January, 1972, onwards.
Easington
49.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he is taking to reduce the number of unemployed persons in the Easington constituency.
In February, 1971, we made the whole of the Easington constituency a Special Development Area. It should therefore benefit from the extensive measures we have introduced to encourage industrial expansion in those areas and in the country as a whole. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry will continue to draw the attention of suitable firms to the advantages of expansion in the area, in eluding the New Town of Peterlee.
Industrial Disputes
50.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the number of days lost by industrial disputes in 1971 to the nearest million days; and what percentage relationship this figure bears to the figures for 1969 and 1970.
Fourteen million in 1971. an increase of 98 per cent. over 1969 and 24 per cent. over 1970.
57.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many stoppages of work due to industrial disputes in the motor industry were known to his Department in 1969, 1970 and 1971, respectively.
271 in 1969, 336 in 1970 and 242 in 1971. The figure for 1971 is provisional.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many working days were lost due to strikes between 18th June, 1970, and the end of 1971, irrespective of whether the strikes fall within the official classification of industrial disputes or otherwise.
In the official series of disputes statistics, estimates of working days lost are confined to those arising from industrial stoppages. For the eighteen months ended 31st December, 1971, the provisional total is 19,536,000. In addition, approximately 3¼ million workers are estimated to have taken part during this period in one-day stoppages of work which were not due to disputes connected with terms and conditions of employment.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimate he has made of the cost to industry in lost production in consequence of strikes in 1971.
I regret that official estimates of the cost of lost production due to industrial stoppages are not available.
Glasgow
51.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the number of young people under 18 years of age who entered employment in the Glasgow exchange area in the period June, 1970, till the latest available date.
16,537 young people under 18 years of age entered their first employment following completion of full-time education in the City of Glasgow in the period June, 1970, to December, 1971.
54.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will take immediate steps to tackle the question of unemployment in Glasgow, and introduce measures that will lead to continuity of employment.
80.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what measures he is taking to deal with increased unemployment in the Glasgow exchange area.
The Government have introduced a wide range of measures to reduce unemployment, many of which are directed at special development areas of which Glasgow forms a part, and it will take such further measures as are necessary to achieve this aim.
Edinburgh
53.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will introduce measures to alleviate unemployment within the Edinburgh exchange areas.
The Edinburgh employment exchange area is in an intermediate area. The Government have taken extensive measures to stimulate the economy of the country as a whole and of the assisted areas in particular. I am confident these measures will help to alleviate unemployment in Edinburgh.
Fife
55.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he intends to take to relieve the rate of male unemployment in Kirkcaldy, Buck-haven and Methil, Burntisland and Kinghorn.
I am confident the extensive measures already taken by the Government to stimulate the economy in the country as a whole and in the development areas in particular will lead to an improvement in the unemployment situation in the hon. Member's constituency.
84.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many building trade workers were registered as unemployed in the Kirkcaldy, Leven and Burntisland employment exchanges, respectively, in the month of December for each of the years 1969, 1970 and 1971.
Following is the information:
| NUMBERS OF PEOPLE REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED WHO LAST WORKED IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY | |||
| Kirkcaldy | Leven and Methil | Burntisland | |
| December, 1969 | 185 | 170 | 30 |
| December, 1970 | 228 | 189 | 17 |
| December, 1971 | 305 | 197 | 46 |
Scotland
56.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest Scottish unemployment figures, and how they compare with the same date in 1971.
At January, 1972, the number of people registered as unemployed in Scotland was 154,302, of whom 4,091 were temporarily stopped. The corresponding figures for January, 1971, were 115,134 and 2,097.
63.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies in Scotland were notified to his Department in the last available month.
Not all redundancies are notified to my Department, and it is not the practice to keep records of every minor redundancy. However, our records show that redundancies involving 3,520 workpeople were notified in the period 7th December, 1971, to 10th January, 1972.
Unregistered Unemployed Persons
58.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimate he has made of the number of people out of work but not registered as unemployed.
69.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the number of men and women, respectively, in Wales who are available for employment but are not at present on the unemployment register.
I have nothing to add at present to my answer to the hon. Member for Oldham, West (Mr. Meacher) on 9th December, I explained then that information about the total number of persons seeking work or waiting to take up a job, including those not registered at employment exchanges, will be obtained from the 1971 Census of Population. Preliminary results are not expected for some months.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimates his Department has made of the numbers who are available for work but who are not registered as unemployed in Scotland.
I have nothing to add at present to my answer to the hon. Member for Oldham, West on 9th December. I explained then that information about the total number of persons seeking work or waiting to take up a job, including those not registered at employment exchanges, will be obtained from the 1971 Census of Population. Preliminary results are not expected for some months.
Swindon Railway Workshops (Redundancies)
59.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he intends to take to assist the 1,300 people at Swindon railway workshops whom British Railways Board say they intend to make redundant in 1972 and 1973, to find alternative satisfactory employment.
It is too early yet to make any detailed arrangements, but the hon. Member can be assured that my Department will do all it can by such means as "job teams" for advance interviewing, special canvassing of employers, and the offer of training opportunities where appropriate.
East Midlands
60.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what information he has received from sources outside the Government regarding future prospects of employment in the East Midlands.
My Department receives a good deal of information from employers and others about forthcoming redundancies and expansions and industrial prospects generally in the East Midlands. Much of this is supplied on a confidential basis.
Lanarkshire
61.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young persons are unemployed in the Lanarkshire area; and how many vacancies existed at the latest possible date.
Last month there were 2,314 young persons unemployed and 78 vacancies in Lanarkshire. The vacancy statistics relate only to notified vacancies remaining unfilled and do not purport to measure the total unsatisfied demand.
Kilsyth
62.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of male workers is unemployed in the Kilsyth area.
At 10th January the rate of unemployment for males in the Kilsyth Employment Exchange area was 20·2 per cent.
Experimental Work Scheme
64.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will now extend his experimental work scheme for young unemployed beyond the development and intermediate areas.
In view of the many problems involved in a scheme of this kind, it is not advisable to consider extending its scope until practical experience of it has been gained.
83.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the details of the experimental work scheme centred on Sunderland.
I cannot comment on the details of the experimental works scheme centred on Sunderland, as the responsibility for running the scheme rests with the National Association of Youth Clubs. However, I understand that recruitment of staff for the schemes in Sunderland is in progress.
Sunderland
65.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has for dealing with the unemployment situation in Sunderland.
We have adopted an exceptional range of measures to improve the employment situation in the assisted areas, including the designation of Wearside as a special development area and we shall not hesitate to take such further measures as are considered necessary.
Arbitration Bodies (Government Views)
66.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what instructions or advice he has given to chairmen of
| ESTIMATED NUMBERS OF EMPLOYEES IN EMPLOYMENT | ||||||||
| (Thousands) | ||||||||
| Mexborough and Goldthorpe | Wombwell | |||||||
| Males | Females | Total | Males | Females | Total | |||
| June, 1970 | … | … | 20·4 | 8·9 | 29·3 | 6·0 | 1·8 | 7·8 |
| June, 1961 | … | … | 25·2 | 6·7 | 31·9 | 8·0 | 1·4 | 9·4 |
| June, 1951 | … | … | 26·3 | 5·8 | 32·1 | 9·9 | 1·2 | 11·1 |
Notes:
(1) Estimates are available for Mexborough and Goldthorpe collectively but not separately.
(2) Estimates are made for males and for females but not separately for men, women, boys and girls.
(3) The latest figures at present available are for June, 1970
Commission On Industrial Relations (Confidentiality)
68.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will list the provisions relating to protection from disclosure afforded or conciliation officers and Commission on Industrial Relations staff under the Industrial Relations Act, 1971, in respect of private and confidential information communicated to them; whether he is satisfied that this will preserve adequately the interests of trade unionists who may be parties to proceedings under the Act; and whether he will make a statement.
The relevant provisions are Section 146(6) and Schedule 3, paragraphs 43, 45 and 46. The president of the industrial court has stated publicly that the court will respect the confidentiality of such discussions, and my right hon. Friend is satisfied that the interests of those who may be parties to proceedings under the Act, including trade unionists, are adequately protected.
arbitration boards; and whether he will make a statement on their replies.
I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Islington, East (Mr. John D. Grant) on 20th January.—[Vol. 829, 222.]
Mexborough And Wombwell
67.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many men and women were registered in employment at the Mexborough and Wombwell employment exchanges, respectively, at the latest available date; and how these figures compare with those in 1951, 1961 and 1970.
Following is the information:
Industrial Safety (Report)
70.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to receive the report of the Sub-Committee of the Industrial Safety Advisory Council on the proposals contained in the study of 2,000 accidents by the National Institute of Industrial Psychology.
Shortly after the meeting of the Sub-Committee arranged for 15th February next.
Marconi Works, Wembley
71.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he is taking to deal with the unemployment problem arising from the proposed closure of the Marconi Works in Wembley; how many workers will be made redundant; at what date the first terminations of employment will take place; for how long the closure process will last; and if he will make a statement.
G.E.C. Marconi Electronics Ltd. announced on 14th January that it did not propose to renew the lease of the Wembley factory of Marconi Communication Systems Ltd. and planned to close it towards the end of 1972. It is understood that this would mean some 510 workers becoming redundant, the first redundancies to take place in April, and the balance to be phased over the rest of the year. Discussions, however, are still taking place with the trade unions concerned.The full resources of my Department will be made available to assist workers who may become redundant to obtain alternative employment.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has yet replied to the letter sent to him by Mr. J. R. Gater, shop convenor for the trades unionists at the Wembley Marconi Works, regarding the proposed closure of that factory and the consequent unemployment of 500 workers; and if he will make a statement.
A reply has been sent to Mr. Gater. I understand that the company are still discussing the situation at the Wembley factory with the trades unions concerned.
Beaverbrook Newspapers Ltd
72.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is aware that Beaverbrook Newspapers Limited are in the process of declaring redundant 2,006 employees in Scotland, with further reductions in London and Manchester with possible cuts of up to 20 per cent. in staff in some departments; and whether he will initiate discussions with the trade unions and Beaverbrook Newspapers Limited to see to what extent his Department can assist in these employment problems.
I have received no information about prospective redundancies at Beaverbrook Newspapers Limited. It would not be appropriate for my Department to seek to initiate discussions on this subject between management and the work people's representatives. However, the services of the Department would, of course, be made fully available in the event of any redundancies.
Statistics (Classifications)
73.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will take steps to ensure that future detailed analyses of the unemployment figures include a breakdown between skilled and unskilled workers.
It is not possible to classify all unemployed workers in this way because there are at present no universally accepted definitions of skilled and unskilled workers. However, the occupational classification of the unemployment figures is due to be changed and I will bear this point in mind.
Building Industry (Apprentices)
74.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he is taking to maintain the number of apprentices in the building industry and if he will make a statement.
Responsibility for ensuring an adequate intake of apprentices rests on the industry. My Department is however meeting half the cost of a scheme introduced by the Construction Industry Training Board to provide initial apprentice training for 326 boys who would otherwise be unemployed.
Printing And Publishing Industry Training Board
78.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has received relating to the Printing and Publishing Industry Training Board from employer's associations represented on the board; and what they were.
My right hon. Friend has received representations from the Newspaper Publishers' Association, the Periodical Publishers Association and the Publishers' Association. They covered the incidence of the Board's levy on newspapers, and the general relevance to these sectors of the Board's levy and grant schemes and services.
Redundant Workers (Unemployment Benefit)
76.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment under what circumstances redundant workers may be denied payment of unemployment benefit.
A redundant worker must satisfy the conditions governing payment of unemployment benefit which are laid down in the National Insurance Acts and Regulations. Following is a summary:
Basic Conditions
The basic conditions for the receipt of unemployment benefit are that the claimant:
Main Disqualifications
A claimant may be disqualified if he:
* The maximum period of disqualification in these cases is 6 weeks.
Coal Industry (Dispute)
77.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement about his meeting with the General Secretary of the Trades Union Congress regarding the coal miner's strike.
I have nothing to add to my statement on 24th January, 1972.—[Vol. 829, c. 958.]
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further action he now contemplates taking to secure a settlement of the strike in the coal mining industry.
I am keeping in close touch with the situation and will not neglect any opportunity which could help the parties to reach a settlement acceptable to them both and to the community as a whole.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will arrange to meet the Executive Committee of the National Union of Mineworkers and representatives of the National Coal Board to discuss the national coal strike.
I met both sides on 21st January and am prepared to meet them again at any time to discuss the situation.
Building Industry (Scotland)
79.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many unfilled vacancies there are in the building industry in Scotland.
At 5th January, 539 notified vacancies for jobs in the construction industry remained unfilled in Scotland. There is no obligation on employers to notify their vacancies to my Department. The figure relates only to those vacancies which were notified and remained unfilled on 5th January. It does not purport to measure the total unsatisfied demand for labour in the industry.
Paisley
81.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals he has to reduce the numbers of unemployed in the Paisley employment area.
The Government have already taken extensive measures to stimulate the economy and many of these measures have been directed to the West of Scotland Special Development Area of which Paisley is a part. I am confident that, given time, these measures will lead to an improvement in the unemployment situation in Paisley.
Mining Industry
85.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will undertake surveys in at least three mining areas to indicate how many men who left the industry for other employment between 1960 and 1966 were out of work on 1st October, 1971.
No. It is considered that the results of such surveys would be of limited value. They would also involve considerable administrative expense.
Redundancies
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies, notified to his Department, took place in each of the economic planning regions of Great Britain in 1971; and how many people were involved in each region.
As at 31st December, 1971, the number of redundancies notified and recorded by my Department as having been due to take place in 1971 and the number of establishments concerned were:
| Economic Planning Region | Establishments Notifying Redundancies | Workpeople Involved |
| Northern | 389 | 24,010 |
| Yorkshire and Humberside | 569 | 31,550 |
| South Eastern | 1,159 | 86,480 |
| East Anglia | 124 | 9,330 |
| South Western | 278 | 14,550 |
| Wales | 267 | 14,910 |
| East Midlands | 253 | 16,460 |
| West Midlands | 401 | 35,810 |
| North Western | 602 | 59,080 |
| Scotland | 768 | 42,310 |
| Great Britain | 4,810 | 334,490 |
Note: The figures of "workpeople involved" are provisional figures uniformly adjusted to take account of belated information received up to two months late. A different provisional figure for Wales of 16,250 has been circulated, which was specially extracted from detailed records adjusted to take account of all belated information.
Employment Exchanges
86.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give a list of the employment exchanges which have been opened since June, 1970; where they are situated; by whom they were declared open; and on what dates.
Since June, 1970, two new additional offices have been opened and 104 offices have been re-housed. As a full reply on where these are located, and by whom they were declared open and on what date, is necessarily rather lengthy I will with permission send the hon. Member the information.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies, notified to his Department, took place in Wales in 1971; and how many people were involved.
Redundancies in 267 establishments and involving 14,910 workpeople were notified to my Department as due to occur in 1971.The figures of workpeople involved are provisional figures adjusted to take account of belated information received up to two months late. A different provisional figure for Wales of 16,250 has been circulated, which was specially extracted from detailed records adjusted to take account of all belated information.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies took place in England and Wales in 1971; and how many of these were building workers.
Not all redundancies are notified to my Department and it is not the practice to keep records of every minor redundancy. However, our records show that redundancies due to occur in England and Wales in 1971 involved about 292,000 workpeople. Some 10,000 of these were construction industry workers.
Immigrants
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the percentage of the immigrant population, excluding the Irish, who are at present wholly unemployed.
I regret that I can give no current estimate. Comprehensive information about the numbers of employed and unemployed immigrant workers in this country is obtained only when a census of population is taken. The results of the 1971 census are not yet available.
Noise Standards
asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects the Committee on Noise Standards to report.
A sub-committee of my right hon. Friend's Industrial Health Advisory Committee has been set up to consider what action should be taken to prevent the loss of hearing by employed persons due to industrial noise. This sub-committee is to make its first report to the main Committee next month.
Earnings
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the estimated number and percentage of men aged 21 years and over in full-time employment whose gross weekly earnings are less than £20·00 per week in Great Britain, and the Western and Southern sub-divisions of the South-West of England, respectively.
The following estimates are based on the numbers of men, aged 21 and over in the New Earnings Survey
| All occupations | Manual occupations | ||||||||
| Men | Women | Men | Women | ||||||
| £ | £ | £ | £ | ||||||
| South East | … | … | … | … | … | 35·8 | 20·1 | 30·6 | 16·2 |
| East Anglia | … | … | … | … | … | 30·1 | 17·0 | 26·8 | 14·3 |
| South Western | … | … | … | … | … | 30·9 | 17·1 | 27·6 | 14·6 |
| West Midlands | … | … | … | … | … | 33·5 | 17·6 | 31·4 | 15·4 |
| East Midlands | … | … | … | … | … | 30·7 | 17·1 | 28·3 | 14·9 |
| Yorkshire and Humberside | … | … | … | 30·6 | 16·7 | 28·1 | 14·4 | ||
| North Western | … | … | … | … | … | 32·3 | 17·4 | 29·6 | 15·2 |
| Northern | … | … | … | … | … | 30·8 | 17·2 | 28·7 | 14·9 |
| Wales | … | … | … | … | … | 31·8 | 17·8 | 29·6 | 14·5 |
| Scotland | … | … | … | … | … | 31·3 | 17·4 | 28·5 | 14·9 |
| GREAT BRITAIN | … | … | … | … | … | 32·9 | 18·3 | 29·4 | 15·3 |
| (The estimates are subject to sampling error; for most regional averages the standard error was about £0·1.) | |||||||||
Industrial Action
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many workers in Scotland were involved in industrial
1971 sample who were employed in a full-time basis and whose pay was not affected by absence during the survey pay-period in April, 1971.
| GROSS WEEKLY EARNINGS LESS THAN £20 | ||
Number (thousands)
| Percentage
| |
| Great Britain | 1,210 | 11 |
| South West Region | 91 | 14 |
| Western sub-division | 13 | 21 |
| Southern sub-division | 24 | 18 |
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT details showing the average earnings in each of the regions throughout the United Kingdom at the most recent convenient date.
Detailed regional analyses of average gross weekly and hourly earnings of full-time men aged 21 and over and women aged 18 and over in April. 1971, obtained from the new Earnings Survey, were published in the January, 1972, issue of the Department's Gazette. The survey did not cover Northern Ireland.For those whose pay for the survey pay-period was not affected by absence, the estimates of average weekly earnings were:action of any kind, including official and unofficial strikes and working-in on the fourth Monday in January, 1972; and what were the figures for the same day in 1971, 1970, 1969, 1968 and 1967, respectively.
I regret that full information as requested is not available. I understand however that on 24th January, some 320 workers were involved in "work in" or "sit in" actions in Scotland.
Electronics Industry (Scotland)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people are presently employed in the electronics industry in Scotland; and what are the comparable figures for the last five years.
Following is the information:
| Estimated numbers of employees in employment in Scotland in the electronics industries. | |
| Thousands | |
| June, 1965 | 16·3 |
| June, 1966 (a) | 18·1 |
| (b) | 18·5 |
| June, 1967 | 20·4 |
| June, 1968 | 25·1 |
| June, 1969 (a) | 28·0 |
| (b) | 28·2 |
| June, 1970 | 29·2 |
a) excluding and ( b) including the effects of reclassifications.
Estimates for June, 1969 ( a) are classified according to the 1958 edition of the Standard Industrial Classification and the figures are for minimum list heading 364, Radio and other electronic apparatus. For June, 1969 ( b) and June, 1970, the estimates are based on the 1968 edition of the Standard Industrial Classification and are for minimum list headings:
364 Radio and electronic components.
365 Broadcast receiving and sound reproducing equipment.
366 Electronic computers.
367 Radio, radar and electronic capital goods.
Estimates for June, 1971 are expected later this month.
Coventry, Nuneaton And Bedworth
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the latest available percentage unemployment figure for the Coventry, Nuneaton and Bedworth employment exchange areas; how this compares with the average percentage for development areas; and whether he will make a statement.
Based on the total numbers registered as unemployed, including those temporarily stopped, the percentage rates of unemployment at 10th January in the Coventry, Nuneaton and Bedworth travel-to-work area and in the development areas were 5·9 and 7·0, respectively. Based only on the numbers wholly unemployed, the rates were 4·3 and 6·9 per cent.
Unemployment (Scottish Representatives)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has had from organisations or individuals in Scotland consequent upon the unemployment figures published on 20th January.
While my right hon. Friend is aware of and shares the considerable concern in Scotland over the unacceptably high level of unemployment there, he has not received any representations specifically about the January figures. My right hon. Friend has made it clear that the Government's chief aim is to bring down unemployment both in Scotland and in other parts of Great Britain. We have introduced extensive measures to encourage industrial expansion and will not hesitate to take such further measures as may be required.
Secretary Of State (Visit To Bolton)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give the reasons for his official visit to Bolton, Lancashire, on Friday, 28th January, 1972.
I visited Bolton for three reasons. First at the invitation of the Bolton Chamber of Commerce to speak at their annual dinner; secondly to open my Department's new employment office; and thirdly, to visit the Bolton Remploy factory.
Coal Miners (Ages)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many of those engaged in the coal industry were over 50 years of age on 1st January, and how many were under 30 years of age; and what percentage of the labour force these figures represented.
The most recent comprehensive analysis by age of the numbers of employees in the coal mining industry (including the registered unemployed) is for June, 1970, when the total number was about 382,000 of which about 68,000 (or 17·8 per cent.) were under 30 years of age and about 151,000 (or about 39·6 per cent.) were aged 50 or over.
Persons Over 45
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a further examination of the difficulties being experienced by people unemployed and aged 45 years or over in regard to securing jobs, in the light of the present unemployment rate, with a view to introducing legislation to overcome them.
My right hon. Friend is fully aware of these difficulties, but considers that the measures which the Government have taken to create more job opportunities for everyone will be more effective than legislation in helping older people.
Building Industry (Scotland)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures for unemployment in the building industry and kindred trades in Scotland.
At 10th January, 31,124 people who last worked in the construction industry were registered as unemployed in Scotland.
Education And Science
Universities And Polytechnics (Official Visits)
87.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many universities and polytechnics she has visited officially since 19th June, 1970.
Three universities, six polytechnics and the Cranfield Institute of Technology.
Speech Therapy Services (Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she now expects to receive the report of the committee of inquiry into speech therapy services.
My right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for the Social Services, Scotland, Wales and I expect the Report by Easter.
Museums And Galleries
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will list the powers of the Board of Governors under the Museums of London Act, 1965, when the Board is constituted, to determine at their discretion the imposition of admission charges.
The powers of the Board of Governors are conferred by the Act and it would be inappropriate for me to attempt to summarise or to construe them.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she proposes to seek power to require the Board of Governors of the Museum of London, when fully constituted under the 1965 Act, to surrender the total proceeds of admission charges to the Exchequer, notwithstanding Section 14 of the Act in question.
No. It would clearly be inappropriate that any monies earned by a museum financed jointly with the Corporation of the City of London and the Greater London Council should be surrendered totally to the Exchequer.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what plans she has to remove the power of the Trustees of the Tate Gallery, which they inherited in 1955 from the Trustees of the National Gallery and which was not affected by the Treasury Minute of 5th February, 1955, or Statutory Instrument No. 603 of 1965, to impose entrance fees at their discretion in accordance with the Treasury letter of 1921.
None.
Nursery Education (Northern Region)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much money has been allocated to the Northern Region for the provision of nursery education under the Urban Aid Programme; and how much has been spent to date.
Approved capital expenditure, attracting 75 per cent. grant from the Exchequer, totals £1·02 million. This includes £0·5 million, falling mainly in 1972–73, authorised during the last three months as part of the Government's measures to assist areas of high unemployment. Actual capital expenditure to the end of 1971–72 is estimated at £0·41 million.
Milk
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a table showing the latest available numbers and percentages of pupils aged 7 to 11 years at maintained primary schools of each local authority in England and Wales who are in receipt of free milk on medical grounds; and if she will institute a study of the variations in percentages and publish the results.
| Members of the James Committee | Present Post | Previous Posts | |
| Lord James of Rusholme | Vice-Chancellor, University of York. | Assistant Master, Winchester College. | |
| High Master, Manchester Grammar School. | |||
| Miss Elizabeth Aggett | … | Headmistress, Eveline Lowe Primary School, London. | Assistant and headmistress in I.L.E.A. primary schools. |
| Sir Cyril English | … | Director General, City and Guilds of London Institute. | Technical teacher. |
| H.M. Inspectorate, Staff Inspector and Senior Chief Inspector of Schools. | |||
| Dr. Harry Judge | … | Principal, Banbury School, Oxfordshire. | Assistant Master, Emmanuel School. |
| Assistant Master, Wellington County Grammar School. | |||
| Director of Studies, Cumberland Lodge, London | |||
| Mr. Patrick Milroy | … | Chief Education Officer, Gloucestershire. | Posts in teaching and industry. |
| Assistant Education Officer, Wiltshire. | |||
| Deputy Education Officer, Dorset. | |||
| Deputy Education Officer, Staffordshire. | |||
| Mr. James Porter | … | Principal, Berkshire College of Education. | Teaching posts in primary and secondary Schools. |
| Lecturer, City of Worcester College of Education. | |||
| Head of Education Department, Chorley College of Education. | |||
| Deputy Principal, Coventry College of Education. | |||
| Professor Roger Webster | Professor and Dean of the Faculty of Education, University College of North Wales, Bangor. | Director for Wales, Arts Council of Great Britain. | |
| Lecturer in Education, University College, Swansea. | |||
Handicapped Children
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will improve the methods of advising local authorities of the technical means by which handicapped children's communication problems in education can be overcome; if she will consider holding a symposium on this subject for local authorities; and if she will make a statement.
The only information available to my Department about the number of pupils in each local education authority area receiving free milk at school on grounds of health relates to a day in the period 4th–15th October, 1971. It is likely that the position has changed since then.
James Committee
asked the Secretary of State of Education and Science if she will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the posts and responsibilities held in the past and during his membership by each member of the James Committee on teacher education, relevant to its terms of reference.
, pursuant to her reply, OFFICIAL REPORT, 31st January, 1972, c. 29, gave the following information:
Information about new forms of equipment is publicised in educational and medical publications to which local education authorities and special schools for the physically handicapped have access. H.M. inspectors and medical officers of my Department also are ready to advise if required; I doubt if a symposium would be the right way to discuss this extremely various and technical subject.
Classes (Southampton)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, how many classes of over 30 children there are in first, middle and secondary schools in Southampton; and, in each case, what this represents as a percentage of the total number of classes.
In January, 1971, 361 classes as registered in first schools, 170 classes as taught in middle schools and 61 classes as taught in secondary schools, representing 75·2, 53·3 and 9·8 per cent. of all classes in these schools.
Colleges (Secondary And Sixth Form)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many secondary and sixth-form colleges there were in operation in England on 31st December, 1971; how this figure compares with those for 1969 and 1970; and how many of these colleges are open-ended in that entrance is not restricted to children with O levels or other academic qualifications.
There were 13 sixth form colleges in England on 31st December, 1971 compared with nine and 12 in 1969 and 1970, respectively. With one exception, all the colleges are prepared to accept suitable applicants without G.C.E. "O" level or equivalent qualifications.
Defence
Armed Forces Personnel (Secondment)
89.
asked the Minister of State for Defence how many Armed Forces personnel are currently seconded to the Armed Forces of other countries; and if he will give the breakdown, by ranks and country.
Three hundred and fifty officers and 520 men are serving on loan with the Armed Forces of other countries, but it is not our practice to provide information in the detail required by the hon. Member.
Expenditure (Wales)
asked the Minister of State for Defence what is the latest percentage of total expenditure on defence establishments in the United Kingdom which is incurred in Wales.
Of the order of 3 per cent.
Northern Ireland
asked the Minister of State for Defence on how many occasions since 1st August, 1971, the Secretary of State for Defence has refused to produce documents requested in connection with legal proceedings in Northern Ireland, and in relation to which cases.
A claim for Crown Privilege has been made and accepted for one document on one occasion. This related to a civil action by Mr. W. J. Moore.
Equipment (Purchasing Policy)
asked the Minister of State for Defence whether he is now able to make a statement on the Government's policy of purchasing defence equipment from British firms, where available, in preference to firms from overseas, irrespective of costs comparison; when this policy is to commence; and to what extent Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community will affect these arrangements so far as purchases from the 10 members are concerned.
It is Government policy as far as practicable to procure defence equipment at home or in collaboration with our Allies. Our entry into the European Economic Community will not alter this and should increase the opportunities for mutually beneficial co-operation.
Home Department
Pre-Release Hostels
90.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many and what proportion of prisoners were sent to a pre-release hostel in England and Wales prior to their release in 1971.
During 1971, 571 prisoners in England and Wales were admitted to the pre-release employment scheme. This was 47 per cent. of those eligible.
91.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many pre-release hostels are now operating in England and Wales.
There are 20 hostels and out-working schemes attached to prisons in England and Wales. Seventeen are in use. Three are not operating at present because of lack of work in the area.
Juvenile Crime
92.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will commission an inquiry into the correlation between juvenile unemployment and the crime-rate.
My right hon. Friend has no immediate plans for such research. The individual's record of employment and unemployment is one of the factors commonly examined in studies of offenders carried out by the Home Office or with financial assistance from the Home Office.
Misuse Of Drugs Act, 1971
93.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to operate Section 17 of the Misuse of Drugs Act, 1971.
This provision will form part of the main framework of control. As I said in reply to a Question by the hon. Member for Cardigan (Mr. Elystan Morgan) on 18th November, 1971, commencement of the main provisions of the Act depends upon the preparation of regulations. I have nothing to add at this stage.—[Vol. 826, c. 189–90.]
Police Reorganisation
94.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on his recent meeting with the Police Federation regarding police reorganisation.
I received a deputation from the Police Federation on 19th January. I told the deputation that I adhered to the principle that police areas should be based on the local government areas proposed in the Local Government Bill. But I undertook to examine, consistently with this principle, certain suggestions made by the Federation with the object of reducing disturbance to individual officers.
Pakistan Citizens
95.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he intends by legislation to safeguard the existing rights which followed from being Commonwealth citizens of Pakistani citizens now resident in the United Kingdom, with particular regard to the franchise, the right of election to councils or Parliament, the acquisition of British citizenship and the admission of dependants.
Citizens of Pakistan will remain Commonwealth citizens in our law until Section 1 of the British Nationality Act, 1948, is amended.The legislative provision that would be necessary if citizens of Pakistan were to become foreign nationals would require careful study, in the light of the considerations outlined in my hon. Friend's Question and other relevant factors.
Police (Allegations)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now agree to appoint an independent committee of persons, or move for a parliamentary commissioner, to inquire into all charges and allegations made against the police force, and provide for members of police forces to have the right of having their grievances and allegations of irregularities against them investigated by this committee or commissioner.
No. I would refer the hon. Member to the statement made by my right hon. Friend on 2nd December.—[Vol. 827, c. 652.]
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a fully detailed statement giving, for the longest and most convenient stated period of time, the number and ranks of police officers who have been accused of bribery, corruption, and any other stated illegalities or irregularities against their terms of office of appointment; and in how many instances, and with what results, prosecutions have been initiated.
I regret that information is not readily available in the form asked for by the hon. Member.
Adoption Act, 1958
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he proposes in the light of the statement by Mr. Justice Latey in the Family Division on 27th January that the Adoption Act, 1958, presented difficulties and that consideration Should be given to changing the law to make the interest of the children the paramount consideration as it was in other disputes about children.
The law on adoption is under consideration by the Departmental Committee on the Adoption of Children. The Committee's attention will be drawn to these remarks.
Trade And Industry
West Stirlingshire
96.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what action he proposes to take to encourage industry to come to the Bannockburn, Cowie and Fallin areas of West Stirlingshire.
Industrialists establishing factories in the development areas of which these places form part qualify for a wide range of Government assistance.
Retail Census (Confidentiality)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what steps he is taking to ensure that information obtained by the Retail Census at present being carried out by the Business Statistics Office remains confidential.
The Statistics of Trade Act, 1947, under which the Census of Distribution for 1971 is being taken, forbids the disclosure of information relating to an individual undertaking. The Act prescribes penalties for the disclosure by any person of any such information.The Business Statistics Office—formerly the Census Office of the Board of Trade—enforces stringent rules to prevent inadvertent disclosure of information supplied by individual businesses when publishing the results of a census or when meeting requests from other Government Departments or the general public for special analyses.
Coal Mines (Gas)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what quantities, expressed in terms, of mine gas of a concentration of methane greater than 50 per cent. is discharged into the atmosphere at collieries which are or have been equipped with facilities for the delivery of the gas to a gas board.
I am informed by the National Coal Board that in 1970–71 the total was 10·5 million therms.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what quantity of mine gas expressed in therms is sold by the National Coal Board annually.
I am informed by the National Coal Board that sales in the last six years were:
| Million therms. | |
| 1965–66 | 44·1 |
| 1966–67 | 44·5 |
| 1967–68 | 40·7 |
| 1968–69 | 37·5 |
| 1969–70 | 29·7 |
| 1970–71 | 23·3 |
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what quantities, expressed in therms, of mine gas at concentrations of above 50 per cent. methane are discharged into the atmosphere from mines.
I am informed by the National Coal Board that in 1970–71 the total was 14·6 million therms.
Concorde
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether, in view of the amount of testing of Concorde that has now been completed, he will now consider the suspension of all supersonic flying, whether for test or commercial purposes, over the county of Cornwall.
The West Coast route will continue to be required for a limited number of Concorde test flights, and it may be necessary for some to pass over Cornwall. The number of such flights will be kept to a minimum. The Government will announce their decision on the regulation of commercial supersonic flying overland in good time before Concorde enters airline service.
Gas And Electricity Meters
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will give a general direction to the gas and electricity boards that shift hours should be worked by their meter staff, since many families are out at normal working hours and have difficulty in having their meters read, with the result that there may be difficulty in assessing exactly what is owing.
This is a matter for the Gas and Electricity Councils and I am asking their chairmen to write to my hon. Friend.
Development Areas
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what action he now intends to take to assist the development areas to overcome the high levels of unemployment in such areas; and whether he intends to pay official visits to all of them.
These matters are kept under continuous review, but I have no statement to make at the present time. The programme of my right hon. Friend will include visits to the development areas.
Steel Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the earliest date on which he expects to receive the report on the review of the steel industry; what is the earliest date on which he expects a decision on a new integrated steel plant; and if he will make a statement.
I expect to receive this report shortly. The B.S.C. expects to put forward its proposals regarding the next stage of major steel development by the summer.
Metrication White Paper
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when he now expects to publish the White Paper on metrication.
It is intended to publish the White Paper on Monday, 7th February.
Civil Service
Staff (Open University Courses)
97.
asked the Minister for the Civil Service what guidance he has issued to Government Departments concerning the release of Government employees to attend residential courses of the open university; and whether he will make a statement.
Departments have been advised that Government employees attending residential courses of the open university may be granted special leave with pay under the normal rules. The leave allowances should be sufficient but in exceptional circumstances Departments have limited discretion to exceed them or to grant additional special leave without pay.
Industrial Employees
98.
asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will name the Departments which have decreased their number of industrial employees; and how many of these were established or non-established.
In the period 1st July, 1970, to 1st October, 1971, the Departments which have reduced their industrial staff by more than 100 are the Department of the Environment, the Ministry of Defence, the Department of Trade and Industry, and the Royal Mint. These net decreases result from expansions and reductions in different parts of the Departments concerned, including in some cases inter-departmental transfers of responsibilities and staff. It is not possible from information available centrally to analyse these net decreases by status of the staff.
Non-Industrial Employees
asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will name the Departments which have increased the number of non-industrial civil servants and their various grades; how many are temporary; and how many are men or women.
In the period 1st July, 1970, to 1st October, 1971, the following Departments increased their non-industrial numbers by over 100:
- Customs & Excise.
- Defence.
- Employment.
- Health and Social Security.
- Home Office.
- Inland Revenue.
- Lord Chancellor's Departments, including the Land Registry.
- Office of Population Censuses and Surveys. Scottish Office.
- Stationery Office.
- Trade and Industry.
Letters To Ministers And Departments (Postage)
asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he is aware that all taxpayers are entitled to write to their tax inspectors and inland revenue officers without postage charges; and whether he will introduce a system whereby all taxpayers may have the same facilities when writing to Ministers of the Crown and Government Departments.
The hon. Gentleman is under a misapprehension. The Inland Revenue, like other Departments, sends postage paid reply labels or envelopes when writing to the public to ask for information, but I see no reason why Departments should bear the postage cost of all incoming correspondence.
Scotland
Student Union Fees
99.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average composite fee per student for union activities in universities, central institutions and colleges of education, respectively.
In universities £13·12½. In central institutions and colleges of education where the range of activities requiring financial support has not been so wide and the fees have been subject to my Department's approval the figures are £3·25 and £4 respectively.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Belgian Trawlers (Sussex Coast)
100.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will institute proceedings against those responsible for illegal fishing inside the six-mile limit off the Sussex coast by Belgian trawlers between 18th and 27th January, 1972.
I have no firm evidence that foreign fishing vessels were fishing within the six-mile limit off the Sussex coast during the period in question. The weather conditions for much of the period made this virtually impossible and the indications suggest that the vessels seen within the six-mile limit were seeking shelter. The area was kept under surveillance by a fishery protection vessel, without finding any evidence of poaching offences, although a Belgian skipper was charged on 31st January for stowage of gear offences.
Work And Advisory Services (Staff)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has now decided what staff reductions will be possible as a result of the review of his Department's work and advisory services; and when they will be achieved.
In the White Paper on Proposed Changes in the Work of the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (Cmnd. 4564) which I presented to the House in January, 1971, it was estimated that the staff reductions that might be possible as a result of the review of functions, reorganisation and the new advisory objectives for A.D.A.S. might amount to between 5 per cent. and 10 per cent. of the total staff of the Department over the period to 1974.Provisional complements for 1st April, 1974, have now been worked out for those parts of the regional organisation and A.D.A.S. affected by decisions recorded in the White Paper or reached since. Taken alone these would imply a reduction of about 7 per cent. on the total staff of the Department in October, 1970, but since that date numbers have already fallen by nearly 3 per cent. Moreover additional staff will be required elsewhere in the Department over the next two years because of increased work on such things as brucellosis and United Kingdom entry into E.E.C. These requirements cannot yet be fully quantified but are likely to entail a significant increase in the work load on the Department. It is hoped that the great majority of the staff reductions which will have to be effected can be secured by wastage, including retirement and resignations.
No 10 Downing Street (History)
Q7.
asked the Prime Minister if he will commission the writing and publication of an official history of No. 10 Downing Street.
Work is well advanced on a definitive account of the structure of Numbers 10, 11 and 12 Downing Street. When this material is complete, I shall certainly consider publication.
North-West Industrial Development Association
Q8.
asked the Prime Minister what further communication he has received from the North-West Industrial Development Association since his October meeting with its representatives; and if he will make a statement.
I have received a copy of a report prepared by the Association and its consultants on "The Problem of Out-Dated Industrial Premises in the North-West". Copies of the report have also been sent to the responsible departmental Ministers, who will take its recommendations fully into account.
Q19.
asked the Prime Minister what further plans he has to meet the North-West Industrial Development Association, arising from his recent reply to the association.
None. As I indicated in the answer I gave on 25th January to a Question from the hon. Member for Ince (Mr. McGuire), my reply dealt with a limited number of specific issues which I had undertaken to look into when I met representatives of the association on 29th October, 1971.—[Vol. 830, c. 1192–3.]
European Economic Community
Q9.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will invite the conference of the Heads of Government of the six members of the European Economic Community to meet in London.
Agreement has been reached in principle that the Heads of Government of the member countries of the Community and of the four acceding countries should meet in 1972, but a date and place have yet to be fixed.
Q15.
asked the Prime Minister what changes there will be in his duties as Minister for the Civil Service consequential upon the signature of the accession treaty to the European Economic Community.
None.
Rhodesia
Q10.
asked the Prime Minister whether he will consult with Commonwealth Prime Ministers about the latest developments in Rhodesia.
Commonwealth Governments have been informed, and will continue to be informed, of all important developments in relation to Rhodesia.
Prime Minister (Letters)
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister how many letters he has received on the exercise of his responsibilities since 18th June, 1970.
I have nothing to add to the answer I gave last Tuesday to a Question from the hon. Member for Birmingham, Northfield (Mr. Carter).—[Vol. 830, c. 102.]
President Pompidou (Defence Talks)
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister what arrangements he has made for talks with President Pompidou on European defence.
I look forward to welcoming President Pompidou to Chequers on 19th and 20th February. There is no formal agenda: but I expect that we shall discuss a wide range of subjects of interest to us both. The possibility that defence may be discussed is by no means excluded.
Secretary Of State For Employment
Q14.
asked the Prime Minister if, in view of the latest unemployment figures, he will dismiss the Secretary of State for Employment.
No.
Coal Industry (Dispute)
Q16.
asked the Prime Minister what reply he has sent to the letter delivered to him by miners' wives on 18th January on the subject of the miners' strike.
In my reply I confirmed that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment was keeping in close touch with the situation and was ready to take any further initiative likely to bring about agreement. I said that, while I understood the concern which miners' wives felt about this dispute, I believed that the interests both of the miners and of the community as a whole would be best served by an early settlement which neither damaged the prospects of the coal industry nor reversed the progress already made towards bringing inflation under control.
Prime Minister Of Norway (Meeting)
Q17.
asked the Prime Minister what plans he has for an official meeting with Mr. Bratteli, Prime Minister of Norway.
I met Mr. Bratteli when he visited this country on 9th January, and again when we signed the Treaty of Accession to the European Communities on behalf of our respective Heads of State in Brussels on 22nd January. I have accepted with pleasure an invitation from Mr. Bratteli to visit Norway, but no specific dates have yet been fixed.
Machine Tool Industry (Training)
Q18.
asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied with the co-ordination of the Departments of Employment and Education and Science over training opportunities in the machine tool industry, especially in the West Midlands; and whether he will make a statement.
Yes, although the main responsibility for the provision of training opportunities in the machine tool industry rests with the Department of Employment. Those seeking training in the machine tool industry in the West Midlands and elsewhere will stand to benefit from the massive expansion of training facilities which my right hon. Friend announced on Tuesday.
Civil Service Department (Ministers)
asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the increase of non-industrial civil servants under his Administration, he will create one additional Parliamentary Secretary for the Civil Service Department.
No. As I told the hon. Member last Thursday, the increase in the number of non-industrial civil servants is due to the extension of services to the community, particularly in the Department of Health and Social Security.—[Vol. 829, c. 1610–2.]
House Of Commons
Adjournment Debates (Attendance Of Ministers)
asked the Lord President of the Council what is the practice of the Administration regarding the availability of Ministers for attendance during Adjournment debates of the House.
Ministers are always available to attend at such debates if the appropriate procedure is followed. This has remained unchanged under successive Administrations. It requires that Members should give reasonable notice to the Minister or his office in person, or, failing this, to the Leader of the House, the Chief Whip or their offices; Thereafter the Speaker's office should always be notified.
Environment
Water, Sewerage And Waterway Authorities
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to publish a further consultative circular concerning the reorganisation of water, sewerage, river, canal and navigation authorities.
Three consultation papers have been published since the beginning of this year. These are:
Bedford (East-West Traffic)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proposals he has for bypassing Bedford to take trunk road traffic travelling in an east-west direction.
The primary network of trunk roads for comprehensive improvement by the early 1980s includes a new route from the M1 near Northampton to the A1 west of Cambridge. Planning work to determine the corridor that this route might follow is now in hand, but it will in any case provide some relief to the A428 through Bedford. In the shorter term, the new Roff Avenue link will enable east-west through traffic to by-pass the town centre of Bedford.
European Economic Community
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he will have discussions with the European Commission on its proposal for the creation of a European Environment Institute;(2) if he will hold discussions with the European Economic Community Commission on its proposal to create a single observation network for monitoring and tracking pollutants in the environment;
(3) if he will have talks with the European Economic Community Commission about pooling the efforts of European Community countries on research into the recycling of wastes;
(4) if he will have discussions with the European Economic Community Commission about co-ordinating the efforts of Common Market countries on research into pollution avoidance.
I am pleased to observe the interest shown both by governments of member States of the E.E.C. and by the Commission in achieving common environmental policies within the Community. Her Majesty's Government will play their full part in this development and will pursue discussions on all these matters within the framework of the Common Market, on both a bilateral and Community basis.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what action he has taken to ensure that anti-pollution measures adopted by the Government do not place British companies at a competitive disadvantage in the Common Market;(2) what action he has taken to ensure that anti-pollution measures adopted by the Government do not become a non-tariff barrier to trade as between European countries in the Common Market.
We are taking an active part in a number of international consultations directed to the development of common standards for polluting articles of trade. Where measures under consideration for the protection and improvement of the ambient environment have implications for industrial costs, these are taken into account before a decision to impose particular requirements is taken.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what changes he envisages in town planning law and practice as a result of joining the European Economic Community.
None.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if his decision of 16th December, 1970 not to permit lorries in excess of 32 tons maximum weight can be affected by the Council or Commission of the European Economic Community in the event of ratification of the Treaty signed in Brussels on 22nd January, 1972.
As a full member of the Community, this country would be bound by any rules it adopts on lorry weight limits.
Chronically Sick And Disabled Persons
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is aware that, in recent months, some severely disabled people received demands for additional rates following the adaptation of their homes under the provisions of Section 2 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act, 1970; what consultation he had with local authorities on this matter; and if he will make a statement.
I would expect adaptations to the homes of disabled people under Section 2 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act, 1970, to fall within the exemptions from rating provided in Section 45 of the General Rate Act, 1967, and I understand that my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer is not aware of any special difficulties over rating assessments in this matter. As rating assessments are the responsibility of the valuation officers of the Inland Revenue and not of local authorities, a disabled person who finds his assessment increased by reason of such an adaptation should in the first place consult the local valuation officer.
North-West Region (Study)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made in the regional study of the North-West.
The work of the joint strategic planning team for the North-West is up to schedule. As required of them, the team sent to the commissioning authorities before the end of 1971 a report setting out general objectives and intended methods of work. On 28th January the Commissioning Body representative of the North-West Economic Planning Council, the local planning authorities of the region and the Government Departments, meeting in Man- chester under my chairmanship, received this report and authorised work in accordance with it. Consultation with authorities and representative bodies in the region, already a vital element of the team's work, will continue to be important. The final report is due in summer 1973.
British Railways (Regional Administrative Structure)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to receive the proposals of the British Railways Board for the reorganisation of its regional administrative structure.
The initiative lies with the Board.
Derelict Sites
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the annual rate of public expenditure, at the most convenient recent date, on grants for reclaiming and renovating derelict sites in development areas; and what studies have been made of a system of nation-wide grants in order to encourage private landowners to reclaim derelict sites.
Grants to local authorities for reclaiming derelict land in the development areas in England amounted to £989,053 in 1970–71. These related mainly to schemes approved in earlier years. Gross expenditure approved for grant purposes in those areas in 1970–71 amount to £1,497,939.I have under consideration the question whether there should be any extension of the arrangements whereby local authorities are involved in the reclamation of derelict land in private ownership.
Bournemouth (Conference Centre And Marina)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what requests he has received from Bournemouth Corporation for financial assistance in the development of a conference centre-marina; and what reply he has given.
No request for financial assistance has been received. The council applied for the cost of acquiring the necessary land for this development and of carrying out associated road works to be treated as a large project under the new procedures for programming local authority capital expenditure introduced in April, 1971, and supplementary allocations of £199,000 for 1971–72 and £270,000 for 1972–73 have been made.
New Towns (House Sales)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will state for each of the new towns of Basildon, Craw-
| SALES OF RENTED HOUSES FROM 23RD OCTOBER, 1970—28TH JANUARY, 1972 | ||||||||
| Rented housing stock at 23rd October, 1970 | Number of tenants interested in purchasing houses | Firm offers made by Corporation or Commission | Offers accepted by tenants | Percentage of offers accepted to stock at 23rd October, 1970 | Sales completed | Percentage of completed sales to stock at 23rd October, 1970 | ||
| Per cent. | Per cent. | |||||||
| Basildon | … | 16,795 | 6,325 | 5,658 | 3,550 | 21·14 | 656 | 3·91 |
| Bracknell | … | 7,615 | 1,348 | 1,224 | 734 | 9·64 | 378 | 4·96 |
| Harlow | … | 19,286 | 5,500 | 3,000 | 830 | 4·30 | 385 | 2·00 |
| Stevenage | … | 15,745 | 4,023 | 3,488 | 1,937 | 12·30 | 301 | 1·91 |
| Crawley | … | 11,774 | 3,295 | 3,194 | 1,874 | 15·92 | 551 | 4·68 |
| Hemel Hempstead | 11,678 | 1,785 | 1,733 | 960 | 8·22 | 300 | 2·57 | |
A30–A303 Trunk Route
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many sections of road, totalling how many miles of the A30, A303 between the end of the M3 motorway and the Exeter By-Pass are controlled by, respectively, double white lines, solid and broken white lines running parallel together, and a 30 miles per hour speed restriction; and how much of the carriageway bearing white line passing restrictions will have been improved by 1st June, 1972.
The following information relates to the A30–A303 trunk route between the western terminal of the M3 motorway and the Exeter bypass:
- Controlled by double unbroken white lines—63 lengths totalling eight miles.
- Controlled by double white lines, one unbroken and one broken—232 lengths totalling 18·1 miles.
- Controlled by a 30-miles-per-hour speed restriction—five lengths totalling 4·9 miles.
- Length of road with double white line restrictions to be improved by 1st June, 1972—0·5 miles.
ley, Harrow, Hemel Hempstead and Stevenage how many houses owned by the respective New Town Development Corporations or Commission for New Towns have been sold to tenants since the announcement of his 20 per cent. discount scheme and how many sales are under negotiation; and what percentage these figures represent of the number of houses owned by each authority on tile day of the announcement of his scheme.
The information is given in the attached table:
Haringey (Financial Aid)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what was the total amount of financial aid given to the London Borough of Haringey in the financial years 1969–70, 1970–71 and 1971–72, at constant prices, using the figure 100 for 1969–70, and including his estimate of the amount of financial aid which the Government will provide for the year 1972–73;(2) what was the total amount of financial aid given to the London Borough of Haringey in the financial years 1969–70, 1970–71 and 1971–72, together with his estimate of the amount of financial aid which the Government will provide for the year 1972–73.
The total amounts of Government grants for 1969–70 and 1970–71 are as follows:
| £ | |
| 1969–70 | 7,631,065 |
| 1970–71 | 9,228,062 |
Building Industry (Craftsmen)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many skilled craftsmen are now employed in the building industry in England and Wales; and what was the comparable figure in 1970.
In September, 1970, 595,000 skilled craftsmen were employed in the building industry in England and Wales; this figure excludes 74,000 apprentice craftsmen. No comparable figures for 1971 are yet available.
Imperial Smelting Corporation, Avonmouth
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he has taken to monitor and reduce the effects on the environment of the lead emissions at the Imperial Smelting Corporation's works at Avonmouth.
As this is a scheduled process, its airborne emissions have always been checked by H.M. Alkali and Clean Air Inspectorate. In addition, following reports during 1970 about deaths of ponies near the Avonmouth works, Bristol Corporation set up a liaison committee on which the Alkali Inspectorate, as well as other Government Departments and the Imperial Smelting Corporation are represented. Extensive measurements were made of lead levels in air, rain water, dust fall, vegetation and milk in the surrounding areas but no evidence has been adduced so far to show that the health of the inhabitants living in the locality of the works is being endangered by base metal pollution of the atmosphere. This monitoring is continuing. During 1970, the firm agreed with the Alkali Inspectorate to a number of improvements. Further improvements were made in 1971.Emissions to water are the responsibility of the Severn River Authority, who, I understand, have been monitoring the levels of heavy metals in waters and marine organisms near the factory. The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food is monitoring the lead and cadmium content of commercial fish and shellfish in the Severn Estuary and the Bristol Channel. The results of this monitoring show that while there is room for improvement in the effluent from the older part of the factory, which is being pursued, no further action is necessary to protect the public.My Department will continue to monitor the effects of all emissions on the environment outside the works, and I intend to ensure that these emissions to both water and air are kept to the minimum.
Road Casualties (Payment For Treatment)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to amend the provisions of Section 213 of the Road Traffic Act, 1960, so that the drivers of vehicles which cause injury to persons who require hospital treatment, but who are not responsible for the accident, are not made automatically liable, in the first instance, to pay for the treatment.
I have been asked to reply. No.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Rhodesia
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, whatever the findings of the Pearce Commission, if he will make the necessary provisions for the maintenance of a permanent British presence in Southern Rhodesia to safeguard the rights of those who have opposed the settlement and in so doing incurred the disapproval of the illegal régime.
No. The nature and scope of any British representation in Rhodesia after the Pearce Commission reports will be a matter for the Government to consider in the light of the circumstances at the time.
British Embassy, Dublin
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will withdraw Her Majesty's Ambassador from Dublin, in view of the unrestrained attack upon the British Embassy there on 2nd February, 1972, the hoisting of a tricolour on the building, and the destruction, without hindrance from the police, of the building by fire bombs.
No. I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement my right hon. Friend made in the House this afternoon.
Social Services
Sheffield Regional Hospital Board
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) when he will announce his decision as to the reorganisation and boundary changes of the Sheffield Regional Hospital Board;(2) whether he will divide the area of the present Sheffield Regional Hospital Board into two parts and establish a new regional hospital board based on Nottingham.
I have concluded after local consultations that when the National Health Service is reorganised the new regional health authority should cover the proposed Metropolitan County of South Yorkshire and the Counties of Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Lincolnshire and Nottinghamshire. Humberside would be covered by the same regional health authority as West and North Yorkshire.To create two or more regions would cut across important health service links. I am satisfied that the new region will not be too large for the efficient exercise of regional health authority functions, and that any difficulties that might arise from the presence within the region of three medical schools can be satisfactorily overcome.I propose no changes in advance of the general reorganisation of the National Health Service. It will be for the new regional authorities to decide the location of their headquarters.
Seamen (Loss Of Hearing)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council have included seamen in their inquiry into whether there is loss of hearing due to noise in the course of their employment, or to which body he has referred the noise problem facing seamen.
The Council are investigating the general question whether noise-induced hearing loss satisfies the conditions for prescription as an industrial disease under the National Insurance (Industrial Injuries) Act. Any evidence received by them of special problems associated with particular occupations will no doubt be taken into account by the Council.
National Finance
Road Vehicle Gas Fuel
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated cost of administration arising from his decision to place a tax on gas for use as fuel for road vehicles.
This will depend partly upon the extent of the future use of gas as road fuel, but the administration will be as simple and economical as possible.
Wales
National Parks
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what percentage of land in Wales is in national parks.
Roughly 20 per cent.
Carmarthen (Paediatrics Consultant)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will ask the Welsh Hospital Board's Working Party on Children in Hospital in Wales to examine and report on the proposal to appoint an additional consultant in paediatrics at Carmarthen, in the light of the criteria for the appointment of paediatricians in Wales which it has recommended in its interim report.
No. This is a matter for the board.