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Volume 837: debated on Tuesday 23 May 1972

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 23rd May, 1972

National Finance

Unemployment

21.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what further steps he now proposes to take to reduce the level of unemployment.

As I said in my Budget Statement, I shall be ready to act at any time of the year if circumstances warrant it. This month's substantial reduction in unemployment is a welcome development.

27.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will initiate a study into the causes of the incidence of high unemployment associated with low wages on a regional basis.

Mr John Hope Beech

22.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will reconsider the refusal of his Department to order the Commissioners of Inland Revenue to abide by the decision of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration in the case of Mr. John Hope Beech.

As I told my hon. Friend in correspondence, I have already reconsidered all aspects of this case and have come to the conclusion that it would not be appropriate to waive the tax liability which Mr. Beech has incurred.

Beer, Spirits And Wines

23.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total income from excise duty on beer, spirits and wines during the last 12-month period for which figures are available.

The yield in the financial year 1971–72 of the excise duties on beer, spirits and wines produced in the United Kingdom is provisionally put at £782 million; and the total revenue from alcoholic drink at £999 million.

European Economic Community

24.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a state- ment on his Department's work on European Economic Community proposals for economic and monetary union.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which my hon. Friend the Minister of State gave on 12th April.—[Vol. 834, c. 202.]

World Monetary Conference

25.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what study he has made of the proposals by the Chinese delegation at the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development at Santiago for a world monetary conference; and if he will make a statement.

I have noted the remarks of the Chinese delegation on this subject on 22nd April. I remain of the conviction that international monetary reform should be pursued within the established and relevant international organization—the International Monetary Fund—and we are devoting our best efforts to that end.

Paye Refunds

26.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in view of the fact that the weekly take-home pay of a man with a wife and three children under 11 years of age with a weekly wage of £30, whose previous year's pay had been the same, and allowing for tax repayment and welfare benefits due, is £27·60 when in work, and £30·95 when out of work whilst in receipt of Pay As You Earn repayments, what action he intends to take to remedy this anomaly.

I agree this is an anomaly; but it lasts for only a limited period in any one case; it arises because short-term national insurance benefits are not within PAYE. No Government have yet found a way to tax these benefits without disproportionate staff costs.

Mortgage Interest Relief

28.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total cost of tax relief on mortgage interest and the number of persons benefiting in each of the last 10 years.

The Estimates are:

Cost of tax relief on mortgage interest paid by owner occupiersNumbers benefiting
£millionmillions
1962–63753·9
1963–64904·0
1964–651104·1
1965–661354·2
1966–671554·4
1967–681804·5
1968–691954·6
1969–702354·7
1970–713004·9
1971–72(Provisional)3405·0

Surtax

29.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total gain which he estimates will accrue to current surtax payers from those relevant changes he announced in the Budget on 21st March.

About £40 million for a full year resulting from the increases in the personal allowances and in the surtax threshold.

Cohabitors

30.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he treats cohabitors as wives or husbands, as the case may be, for income tax and other fiscal purposes.

No. A cohabiting couple are treated as two single individuals for tax purposes.

Betterment Levy (Film Companies)

31.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received for the imposition of a betterment levy on film companies in which the National Film Finance Corporation has an interest.

Trade Union Contributions (Tax Relief)

32.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much money per annum the Treasury would lose by allowing tax relief on contributions to bona fide trade unions.

National Savings

33.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the net increase or decrease in National Savings in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and what were the comparable figures in the same period three and six years previously.

In the financial year 1971–72 the amount invested in National Savings increased by £735 million. This compared with an increase of £78 million in 1968–69 and a decrease of £19 million in 1965–66.

Money Supply

34.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the increase in the money supply, M3, in both percentage and money terms, in the 1971–72 financial year.

This information will be published next month in the Bank of England Quarterly Bulletin. As my hon. Friend knows monthly figures are available up to mid-March.

Corporation Tax (Yield)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the increase in revenue which will arise from the application of the projected 50 per cent. Corporation Tax in 1973–74 to larger unquoted companies.

As my right hon. Friend made clear, he referred to a 50 per cent. corporation tax rate in his Budget speech solely for purposes of illustration. No estimates have therefore been made on the basis of this rate.

Form P11d

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the continual increase in the work involved in the production of Form P11D, he will consider a revision of the limit of £2,000 per year under which these forms are not required.

Economy (Growth Rate)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the average annual rate of growth in the following periods, 1945 to 1951, 1952 to 1957, 1958 to 1964, 1965 to 1970, and 1971.

The information is given in the table below. It is based on the growth of gross domestic product at constant—1963—factor cost using the average of the estimates based on expenditure, income and output data. Estimates for the years before 1948 are not available.

Average annual rate of growth between the years:
Percentage
1948 and 19513·3
1951 and 19572·4
1957 and 19643·2
1964 and 19702·3
1970 and 19710·.9

Pay As You Earn (Computerisation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the administration of Pay-As-You-Earn income tax will be completely computerised; and what plans he has for the computerisation of other tax schedules.

The programme for automating PAYE has been suspended since major changes in the system of person taxation would be involved should the Tax Credit Scheme outlined in my right hon. Friend's Budget Statement be proceeded with.Plans are proceeding independently to transfer to computers some of the work of tax collection and of work in connection with Schedule D, corporation tax and capital gains tax assessments.

France (Tourist Rate Of Exchange)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is aware that whereas the official rate of exchange for the £ sterling is 13·30 francs the French banks are only allowing British tourists 12·50 francs to the £ sterling; and if when he next visits Paris or has discussions within the European Economic Community he will raise this matter with the French Ministers concerned.

I have nothing to add to the answer given by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs to the hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Alfred Morris) on 18th May, 1972.—[Vol. 837, c. 192.]

Departmental Staff (Wages)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give a detailed list of the employees within his Department who on 12th May had a basic wage of £17·20 or less.

The number of employees in the Treasury with a basic wage of £17·20 or less on 12th May, 1972, was 88. This comprised 37 clerical officers, 30 clerical assistants, 14 typists, two audio typists and five cleaners.

Companies (Stamp Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will state the results of his approach to the European Economic Community for a lowering of the proposed 1 per cent. stamp duty on company capitalisation and the ½ per cent. in the case of mergers; and to what extent the implementation of this draft proposal on harmonisation of this duty in Great Britain will raise the revenue return to the Treasury based upon the latest annual company returns.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the annual yield of the value added tax from services and goods.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Ashton-under-Lyne (Mr. Sheldon) on 18th May.—[Vol. 837, c. 162.]

Investment

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied with the current investment figures in industry; and if he will make a statement.

No. But I expect industrial investment to rise substantially over the next 12 months following the expansionary measures and investment incentives announced in the Budget.

Employment

National Conciliation Agency

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will initiate and chair joint talks between the Trades Union Congress and the Confederation of British Industry for the purpose of setting up a national conciliation agency independent of Government.

Male Unemployment

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the figures of male unemployment to the latest date; and how they compare with two years previously.

The total numbers of males registered as unemployed in Great Britain at May, 1972, and May, 1970, were 723,733 and 494,968, respectively. The figure for May, 1972, is provisional.

Working Hours

37 and 38.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a breakdown of the average hours worked per year, in 1971, by manual workers in industry and commerce in the United Kingdom; and if he will compare this with the position in the European Economic Community countries;(2) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a breakdown of the average hours worked per year, in 1971, by non-manual workers including staff and supervisors in industry and commerce in the United Kingdom; and if he will compare this with the position in the European Economic Community countries.

I regret that 1971 estimates are not available. Nor are there comparable estimates for Great Britain and EEC countries for any recent year.

South Bedfordshire

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the total number of vacancies for employment as notified to him from the employment exchanges in the South Bedfordshire parliamentary constituency; and what were the number of vacancies six months ago.

At 8th May the provisional numbers of people registered as unemployed in the areas covered by the Luton, Dunstable and Leighton Buzzard employment exchanges were 2,752, 618 and 113, respectively. The corresponding figures for November. 1971, were 2,327, 933 and 121.

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures for the number of unemployed as notified to him from the employment exchanges in the South Bedfordshire parliamentary constituency, and the figures for six months ago.

At 3rd May the provisional numbers of notified vacancies remaining unfilled in the areas covered by the Luton, Dunstable and Leighton Buzzard employment exchanges were 797, 136 and 133, respectively. The corresponding figures for November, 1971, were 649, 124 and 86. The statistics relate only to notified vacancies remaining unfilled and do not purport to measure the total unsatisfied demand for labour.

Manufacturing Industry (Wages)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, what is the average weekly hourly wage rate in manufacturing industry for the latest available year in each of the economic planning regions for males and females.

British Lion Films Limited

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what forthcoming redundancies have been notified to his Department as a result of the curtailment of film production at Shepperton by British Lion Films Limited.

I understand the future of Shepperton Studios is still under consideration, and my Department has not been informed of any redundancies.

Non-Manufacturing Industry (Wages)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the average hourly wage rate for non-manufacturing industry, for the latest available year, in each of the economic planning regions, for males, and females, respectively.

For non-manufacturing industries, the latest available estimates relate to April, 1971, rather than the whole year. The following were obtained from the New Earnings Survey

Men aged 21 and overWomen aged 18 and over
RegionNon-manualManualNon-manualManual
££££
South East42·229·122·015·9
East Anglia34·725·519·013·4
South Western35·626·08·713·3
West Midlands37·028·119·914·0
East Midlands35·027·319·513·5
Yorkshire and Humberside36·127·219·113·6
North Western37·128·219·313·6
Northern34·426·719·114·0
Wales36·427·819·813·4
Scotland37·227·019·514·3

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the average weekly total earnings in non-manufacturing industry, for the latest available year, in each of the economic planning regions, for males and females, respectively.

Docks (Container Cargoes)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, in view of his responsibilities in relation to the Dock Labour Scheme, what report he has received of disciplinary action being taken by the registered port employers against their employees regarding the breach of their contracts of employment caused by registered port employees refusing to handle containers.

The National Dock Labour Board, which is responsible for the administration of the Dock Labour Scheme, is not required to report to my right hon. Friend on action taken in individual cases under the disciplinary provisions of the scheme.

19611966
NumberPercentage of all occupationsNumberPercentage of all occupations
Males2,677·316·52,906·918·2
Females2,208·528·42,577·129·1
Persons4,885·820·35,483·922·1
Data for 1971 are not yet available

and relate to full-time adults whose pay was not affected by absence during the survey period. The estimates are given separately for manual and non-manual workers, are subject to sampling errors and were published in the Department's Gazette, January, 1972, tables 59 to 62.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many registered dockers are employed in stuffing and stripping containers in the port areas, in close proximity to these areas and within the limits recommended by Bristow, and inland away from the ports; how the total figure compares with all these, whether registered or not, employed in stuffing and stripping containers; and if he will indicate how the figures have changed in the last 10 years.

Office Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the number of persons employed in clerical and other office occupations in 1961, 1966 and 1971, respectively, showing figures for males and females separately and the percentage which each of the figures represents of the total numbers employed at the respective dates.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the numbers of persons employed in clerical and other office occupations in 1961, 1966 and 1971, respectively, for each of the regional planning areas of Great Britain, showing the percentage which each of the figures represents of the relevant total

19611966
RegionNumber in clerical and other office occupalionsPercentage of Great BritainTotalPercentage of Great Britain population aged 15and overNumber in clerical and other office occupationsPercentage of Great Britain TotalPercentage of Great Britain population aged 15and over
Northern220·34·56·2247·74·56·1
Yorkshire and Humberside350·37·29·0391·87·18·9
North Western599·612·312·7660·812·012·6
East Midlands245·15·06·1284·05·26·2
West Midlands436·08·99·2493·19·09·3
East Anglia99·92·02·8119·02·23·0
South Eastern2,099·143·032·42,369·943·232·4
South Western269·95·56·7312·35·76·9
Wales171·83·55·2187·63·45·1
Scotland393·98·19·8417·97·69·5
Great Britain4,885·8100·0100·05,483·9100·0100·0
Data for 1971 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will state the total numbers employed in clerical and other office occupations as a percentage of the total employed in each of the regional planning areas at the latest date for which figures are available.

The information is, for April, 1966, as follows:

RegionNumber in clerical and other office occupationsPercentage of number in all occupations in the Region
Northern247·717·0
Yorkshire and Humberside391·817·8
North Western660·820·8
East Midlands284·018·0
West Midlands493·120·1
East Anglia119·017·0
South Eastern2,369·928·9
South Western312·319·7
Wales187·616·3
Scotland417·917·8

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give the percentage changes between 1961–66 and 1966–1971, respectively, in the number of persons employed in clerical and other office occupations in each of the regional planning areas.

Great Britain figure and, for comparison, the percentages of total Great Britain population of working age in each of the areas concerned at the relevant dates.

The information requested is as follows for the percentage change between 1961 and 1966:

RegionPercentage Change
Northern+12·4
Yorkshire and Humberside+11·8
North Western+10·2
East Midlands+15·9
West Midlands+13·1
East Anglia+19·1
South Eastern+12·9
South Western+15·7
Wales+9·1
Scotland+6·1
Data for 1971 are not yet available.

Unemployment Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the amount paid out in unemployment benefit for the years 1960. 1965, 1970, and 1971.

Following is the information:

Amount of Unemployment Benefit paid
Year£ million
1960–61*30·2
196548·6
1970144·2
1971207·8
* The financial year; information for the 1960 calendar year is not readily available

Departmental Staff (Wages)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give a detailed list of the employees within his Department who on 12th May had a basic wage of £17·20 or less.

On 12th May there were 3,420 Department of Employment staff with a weekly wage rate or salary equivalent of £17·20 or less, without overtime and before deduction of tax and national insurance. Of this number 3,097 were under 21 and 3,376 were on pay scales with maxima above the figure stated. Details are as follows:

DEPARTMENT OF EMPLOYMENT STAFF IN RECEIPT OF WAGE RATE OR SALARY EQUIVALENT OF £17·20 PER WEEK OR LESS ON 12TH MAY 1972
GradeAge 21 or overAge under 21
Executive officer11
Clerical officer291,632
Clerical assistant2131,299
Shorthand typist I2
II2
Audio typist12
Typist I124
II3054
Telephone operator11
Teleprinter operator12
Photoprinter II6
Duplicator operator33
Machine operator142
Machine assistant113
Cleaner (female)*422
Sandwich course student2
Totals3233,097
GRAND TOTAL3,420
* Grade with wage maximum below £17·20 per week.

"Railway Pay Talks"

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he has received the document "Railway Pay Talks" sent out by the British Railways Board, a copy of which has been sent to him; and whether he will publish this in the OFFICIAL REPORT or quote the extracts giving the present basic rates and proposed basic rates of railwaymen.

Yes. The present and proposed basic rates of pay quoted in the British Railways Board document "Railway Pay Talks" dated 11th May, 1972, were as follows:

Basic Rate

Present

Proposed

££
Railman17·2020·00
Senior Railman19·8022·90
Driver25·7030·70

Social Services

Disabled Persons (Equipment)

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made so far in his Department's examination of electro-mechanical equipment production and standardisation for house-bound disabled persons.

I assume my hon. Friend is referring to the fact-finding group which has been examining questions relating to the provision of aids and equipment for the disabled. Its report has just been completed and is being considered.

Scientology

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, following the Foster Report on Scientology, he has completed his consultations with the relevant professional associations: and if he will make a statement.

No. I await the views of some organisations I consulted; these are expected shortly.

Spectacle Frames

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the design of spectacle frames issued under the National Health Service was last considered.

The range of spectacle frames available under the National Health Service is constantly under review. Within the broad specifications laid down by my Department, detailed design is a matter for the individual manufacturers.

Corneal Operations

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many corneas were removed from patients in hospitals administered by the North West Metropolitan Regional Hospital Board in the last 12 months; if a register has been maintained which gives the names of the consultant doing a corneal graft and his patient; if within his terms of service a consultant may export or sell corneas; and if he will make a statement.

320; a register giving the name of consultant and patient has been maintained. Though this is not a matter specifically dealt with in the terms and conditions of service of consultants, there is no question of selling corneas.

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will place in the Library the advice given by his Department about the use of eyes of deceased patients for corneal grafting; what further steps he proposes to take to prevent pressurising of the relatives who have been bereaved; and if he will make a statement.

The advice is contained in circular HM (61) 98, a copy of which I am placing in the Library.I would deplore any suggestion of undue pressure being brought to bear on the relatives of deceased patients and if the hon. Member has any particular case in mind and will send me details, I shall look into it.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the available supply of eyes needed for corneal grafting is adequate to the demand in each of the regions administered by hospital boards.

I have no detailed information, but I have had no representation to suggest that overall the supply is inadequate.

Giro (Payment Of Benefit)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services since the adoption of the system of paying unemployment and sickness benefits by Giro, what percentage of these payments have had to be reissued as duplicates, as a result of losses in transmission.

Private Health Schemes

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to encourage companies to take out group subscriptions to private health schemes.

This is not a matter for me, though I have many times expressed my belief in the rights of people to exercise the option of seeking treatment privately rather than through the National Health Service.

Cohabitation (Investigations)

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated annual cost of paying the necessary staff with travelling, subsistence allowances, extra office accommodation and expenses required to track down cohabitors; and if he will express this as a proportion of the money saved.

It is estimated that some £400,000 of the cost of employing special investigators was attributable to work on cases of alleged cohabitation in 1971. This is 45 per cent. of the benefit estimated to be saved.

Elderly Persons (Residential Homes)

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people over 65 years of age are known to his Department to be residents of nursing and old people's homes which are administered privately and by organisations other than local authorities, respectively, at the latest available date; and how these figures compare with each of the previous five years.

The following table gives the available figures for registered old persons' and disabled persons, homes in England and Wales. No figures are available of persons over 65 resident in nursing

PERSONS AGED 65 AND OVER IN HOMES REGIS-TERED UNDER SECTION 37 OF THE NATIONAL ASSISTANCE ACT, 1948.
At 31st DecemberPrivate HomesVoluntary Homes
196715,85022,761
196816,74723,051
196917,53223,720
197018,26423.773

Prescription Charges (Ankylosed Spondylitis Patients)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consult the appropriate committee with a view to exempting sufferers from ankylosed spondylitis from charges for prescriptions.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Manchester, Gorton (Mr. Marks) on 9th May.—[Vol. 836, c. 301.]

Children In Care

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many children under 15 years of age are now in the care of local authorities in England and Wales.

On 31st March, 1971, the latest date for which figures are available, 60,693 children of or below compulsory school age were in the care of

NUMBERS OF CHILDREN OF COMPULSORY SCHOOL AGE IN THE CARE OF LOCAL AUTHORITIES IN THE GREATER LONDON AREA ON 31ST MARCH
196619671968196919701971*
Barking93109109129144175
Barnet186173168148137152
Bexley6863677981104
Brent300312349348393404
Bromley138148154159200254
Camden299295298316339359
Croydon234189188207215270
Ealing208223207214226289
Enfield142137134128119137
Greenwich282292274279279346
Hackney419421435438514595
Hammersmith337365380374382444
Haringey191238280336370421
Harrow646454585657
Havering869910098111137
Hillingdon130121136144154174
Hounslow153145131133148174
Islington585549566502496562
Kensington and Chelsea348352372399410418
Kingston8566468595121
Lambeth572574624637643720
Lewisham345358381393396421
City of London11
Merton127128131145170180
Newham185202201201220283
Redbridge576858607394
Richmond98979079103104
Southwark464466508567551597
Sutton1686859098131
Tower Hamlets857815817805767831
Waltham Forest109110123130134180
Wandsworth450461501545562671
City of Westminster386375394403429418
Totals8,0158,1018,3618,6299,01510,224
* The figures for 1971 are not directly comparable with those for earlier years, since on 1st January, 1971 the power of thte courts to commit to approved school was replaced by a power to commit to the care of a local authoriy, and all persons under 19 then subject to approved school orders or to supervision after release from approved school were deemed from that date to be subject to care orders

Elderly Persons (Residential Homes)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps are taken by his Department to ensure the highest standards in the lighting, local authorities in England. My right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales informs me that on the same date 2,603 such children were in the care of local authorities in Wales.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many children between the ages of five to 15 years of age are in the care of local authorities in the Greater London area; what are the figures for each borough; and how these compare with the figures for the last five years.

Following is the information:heating and general accommodation facilities in private nursing and old people's homes.

I am sending the hon. Member copies of the regulations which require the managers of nursing homes registered under the Public Health Act, 1936, and old persons' homes registered under the National Assistance Act, 1948, to provide reasonable accommodation and adequate lighting and heating. Responsibility for enforcing the regulations rests with the registering local authorities and not with my right hon. Friend.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what reports he has received of the treatment of old persons in private nursing and old people's homes, the staffing conditions, the rates of pay and hours worked by staff, and the practices adopted by the proprietors of such homes in respect of the Department's regulations and inspection.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to a similar Question from him today

Stray Cats (Wandsworth)

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of the health hazard involved and their unavailing efforts, what action he will take to assist the Wandsworth Borough Council and the Blue Cross to cope with the increasing wild cat population of the borough.

I understand that neither the public health department of the London Borough of Wandsworth nor the Blue Cross is aware of either a recent increase in the numbers of stray cats or of any health problems caused by stray cats in the area. The council received a complaint about 12 stray cats from one part of the borough and they have arranged for the Blue Cross to round them up. However, if the hon. Member has information which suggests that stray cats may be creating a health hazard in this area, I would suggest that he gives full details to the borough's medical officer of health.

General Practitioners (Terms Of Service)

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will place in the Library a copy of the document containing revised terms of service for general practitioners which has been sent to local medical committees as a result of his discussions with the General Medical Services Committee of the British Medical Association.

The document was circulated by the General Medical Services Committee of the British Medical Association; I understnd it will supply a copy to any hon. Member who wishes to have one.

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if it is the practice of his Department to require that there be withheld from general practitioners who are not members of local medical committees the details of negotiations between his Department and the General Medical Services Committee of the British Medical Association on terms of service for general practitioners.

No. I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Rossendale (Mr. Bray) today.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on his recently issued document relating to family doctors' conditions of employment; and what discussions he has had on its contents and proposals with the British Medical Association.

Revision of the National Health Service (General Medical and Pharmaceutical Services) Regulations, 1966 (Statutory Instrument 1966 No. 1210), which include as Schedule 1 the terms of service for medical practitioners, has been under discussion with the medical profession's representatives for a number of years. A draft of revised regulations and terms of service has emerged from these discussions, and authority was given to the General Medical Services Committee of the British Medical Association to circulate the draft terms of service, with a memorandum on the relevant provisions of the draft regulations, to local medical committees—of which there are some 130 in England and Wales—prior to their annual conference this year.The draft is subject to further consultations and liable to amendment.

Siderosis

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now agree to recognise siderosis as an industrial disease.

No. There is no evidence to suggest that this condition of itself gives rise to disablement or affects capacity for work.

Cannabis

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what evidence his Department has which suggests that smoking cannabis is as dangerous to health as smoking tobacco.

More study is still needed about the smoking of cannabis and its effects. But the types of risk involved are essentially different from the risks of smoking cigarettes, and the two cannot meaningfully be compared.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what research his Department is undertaking into the health hazards of smoking cannabis.

Psychiatric Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many non short-stay patients were in psychiatric hospitals on the most recent date for which statistics are available; and what proportion of this figure it is expected will be discharged or transferred to residential homes, hostels, and approved private accommodation, respectively, by 1977–78.

At the end of 1970, patients who had been in hospitals three months or more numbered about 100.000 in mental illness hospitals and units and 56,000 in hospitals and units for the mentally handicapped.No predictions can be made of the proportions of these likely in the next five years to be suitable for and discharged to other forms of care. Much will depend on the expansion, which is already under way, in residential and other services in the community. We shall shortly be asking local authorities to tell us about the rate at which they plan to improve these services over the next five to 10 years.

National Health Service Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is now taking to safeguard the interests of National Health Service patients, especially in regard to quality of treatment and number of beds available, in the light of the increasing use of private health insurance schemes.

I do not accept that the use of private health insurance schemes is endangering the interests of National Health Service patients or that safeguards are needed beyond those provided in Sections 1 and 2 of the Health Services and Public Health Act. 1968.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what effect he estimates a continuation of the present 7 per cent. annual growth rate in the number of those subscribing to private health and medical schemes will have on the number of people using National Health Service facilities in five years' time.

Just under 2·1 per cent. of patients treated in National Health Service hospitals are private patients. I have at present no reason to believe that this proportion, which has remained virtually unchanged over recent years, will show any marked increase in the foreseeable future.

Private Operations (Use Of Nhs Equipment)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to ensure that National Health Service equipment is not used to carry out private operations by consultant surgeons.

No. This equipment is among the hospital facilities that may be made available for private patients treated under Sections 1 and 2 of the Health Services and Public Health Act, 1968, and is covered by the hospital charges payable by them.

Attendance Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will bring forward the commencement date for the new partial/constant attendance allowance.

I would refer my hon. Friend to what I said during the debate on the Second Reading of the National Insurance Bill on 18th May.—[Vol. 837, c. 789–91.]

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many disabled people have now been granted the attendance allowance; in how many cases the allowance has been refused; how many cases are at present under review; and if he will make a statement.

By 9th May it is estimated that about 89,000 claims for the attendance allowance had been successful and about 54,000 had been rejected because the medical requirements were not satisfied. These figures take account of claims allowed following a successful application for review. At the same date 7,200 cases were under review. About 74,000 allowances were currently in payment. The difference between the numbers of successful claims and of allowances currently in payment is accounted for by deaths and by suspensions of the allowance consequent on admissions to hospital or prescribed accommodation.

Disabled Persons (Self-Service Of Goods)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will institute an inquiry in his Department into the problems facing registered disabled persons as a result of the growing trend to the self-service of goods and services.

This appears to me to be a matter for the commercial organisations concerned.

Visiting Welfare Officers

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give the

Months
Specialty0–33–66–1212–24Over 24Total
General Medicine15116
General Surgery114275146
Gynaecology12229342187
Ophthalmology4321131188
Orthopaedic5114157491
Ear, Nose and Throat36440
Dental833910132
Total46413577204700
Percentage66191131100

Note: These figures exclude 180 patients who for various reasons have declined offers of admission

Bronchitis And Emphysema

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will set up an inquiry to investigate the incidence of chronic bronchitis and emphysema among electric arc welders, figures for the ratios of his Department's visiting welfare officers as a proportion of the population in the following areas, the London Borough of Harrow, Middlesex, the Greater London area and South-East England as a whole.

Ipswich And East Suffolk Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to reduce the waiting lists at the Ipswich and East Suffolk Hospital.

The hospital management committee has under continuous review all aspects of the local hospital service. A reduction of 39 per cent. in the waiting list has, as a result, been achieved since 1st January, 1970. Additional facilities for day surgery are to be provided at the Heath Road wing of the Ipswich Hospital which are expected to reduce waiting lists still further.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average waiting time at Ipswich and East Suffolk Hospital for beds for the various specialities for which figures are available.

Information in the form requested is not available, but the following table gives the numbers of patients at the Ipswich Hospital who have waited for the times stated:with a view to having it classified as an industrial disease.

No. Research into the various aspects of these diseases has been carried out over a wide field and includes surveys of their incidence among welders. These surveys have not shown any variation among welders from the general incidence. Chronic bronchitis and emphysema are extremely common among the general population and there is no evidence to suggest that they could satisfy the conditions for prescription as industrial diseases laid down in Section 56 of the National Insurance (Industrial Injuries) Act, 1965.

Supplementary Pensions (Heating Allowance)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many pensioners were receiving supplementary pension at the latest available date; and of these how many were receiving a special allowance for extra heating.

In November, 1971, the latest date for which the requested information is available, 1,919,000 retirement pensioners were receiving supplementary pensions. Of these 159,000 were receiving a special allowance for heating.

Foetuses (Research)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has now received a report from the advisory group set up last year, under the chairmanship of Sir John Peel, to consider the ethical, medical, social and legal implications of the use of foetuses and foetal material for research; what action he proposes to take; and if he will make a statement.

Yes, I have received the report which is being published today. The recommendations cover a wide variety of important issues which my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland, Wales and Education and Science and I propose to consider in detail in the light of comments received before deciding on a course of action.

Departmental Staff (Wages)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will give a detailed list of the employees within his Department who on 12th May had a basic wage of £17·20 or less.

10,902 made up as follows:

Executive Officers45
Clerical Officers4,200
Clerical Assistants4,632
Other grades2,025

Of these, about 83 per cent. are under 21, and about 89 per cent. are on scales with a maximum exceeding £17·20 per week.

Cigarettes(Health Hazard Warning)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is aware that imported cigarettes are on sale without the Government health hazard warning printed thereon; and whether on health grounds, and to produce parity with British cigarette manufacturers, he will now take the necessary action to ensure that all cigarette packets on sale in Great Britain contain the health hazard warning.

My agreement with the United Kingdom manufacturers covers over 99 per cent. of the packets of cigarettes sold in this country. I understand that the manufacturers have had discussions with cigarette importers and overseas manufacturers, some of which have already agreed to print warnings on their packets.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT full details of the limitation on the rates of pensions payable to British citizens who move abroad to live in the countries of Belgium, France, the Netherlands and Luxembourg before 5th July, 1948; and to what extent Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community will change this situation.

The limitations are effective only where the person concerned left the United Kingdom before 30th September, 1946, when increased pension rates were introduced in advance of the National Insurance Scheme which became fully operative from 5th July, 1948. The pension rate payable to such persons was fixed at that applying in the United Kingdom at the time of leaving or of reaching pension age, whichever was later. On entry into the European Economic Community, these limitations will no longer apply to United Kingdom nationals under the Community's social security rules. These rules will apply to acceding States from 1st April, 1973, and all United Kingdom nationals within the enlarged Community entitled to a United Kingdom national insurance pension will then receive a pension at the full appropriate rate currently payable in the United Kingdom and also any subsequent increases of that pension.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what extent, on Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community and the extension of the Six to the Ten, British citizens who have moved to live in Denmark and Norway will be entitled to claim their full British pension rights together with increases which have taken place since their removal, and so far as future increases are concerned.

A United Kingdom national living in Denmark or Norway and entitled to a United Kingdom national insurance pension would, under the Community's social security rules which would apply from 1st April, 1973, receive from that date a pension at the full appropriate rate currently payable in the United Kingdom and also any subsequent increases of that pension.

Food And Drugs Act

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why, by 16th May, he was unable to give the date when the review of the Food and Drugs Act is to take place.

A general review of the Food and Drugs Act is not considered necessary at present and it would not be practicable to estimate when one will take place.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Icelandic Ministers (Discussions)

57.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what arrangements he has made for discussions with the Foreign Minister of Iceland, Mr. Augustsson, following his arrival in London on 25th May; whether he will be seeing the Minister for Fisheries, Mr. Josefsson; and if he will make a statement.

I shall be taking part in discussions with the Icelandic Ministers in company with my noble Friend the Minister of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. My right hon. Friend hopes to see Mr. Josefsson during his visit.

Hormones (Animal Food)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, what is the extent of carcinogenic hazard which the Veterinary Products Committtee have assessed in the advice tendered to him in the use of hormones in food given to calves and other farm animals; when he will announce his decision on the banning of injectable oestrogens; and if he will make a statement.

As regards the first part of the Question, I have nothing to add to the reply I gave the hon. Member on 16th May.—[Vol. 387, c. 50.]My Department is now considering, in consultation with the Department of Health and Social Security, the implementation of the recommendations of the Veterinary Products Committee in regard to injectable preparations of oestrogens. Our conclusions will be announced as soon as possible.

European Economic Community

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation No. 2451/71/EEC of 15th November, 1971, on calculating the financial compensation for certain fishery products will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

This regulation supplements the main fisheries marketing regulation, 2142/70, which among other things provides for a form of market intervention. Under this, organisations of producers withdrawing fish from the market at price levels laid down by the Community can be partially compensated from the Community's Agricultural Guidance and Guarantee Fund (FEOGA). This voluntary system of intervention will be available to United Kingdom producers after 1st January, 1973. The compensation paid from FEOGA will go some way towards meeting the cost to the producer organisation of indemnifying its members for the fish which they have withdrawn. Our interpretation of the purpose of the later regulation, 2451/71, is that the level of compensatory payment to a producer organisation is directly linked to the rate of indemnity paid to individual producers, so that, as the latter rate diminishes, the compensatory payment is proportionally reduced.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Directive 72/2/EEC of 20th December, 1971, making a seventh amendment to the Directive on the approximation of the laws of member states on preservatives for use in foodstuffs intended for human consumption, will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

This directive will have no effect on the use of preservatives by the British food industry.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2839/71/EEC of 24th December, 1971, extending the period of applicability of additional quality classes of certain fruits and vegetables will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

This regulation, which extends to 31st December, 1974, the period in which class III standards for certain fruit and vegetables may operate, will be superseded on our accession to the EEC by the agreement annexed to the Treaty of Accession (Cmnd. 4862–II, page 24) under which the application of class III standards may be extended until 31st December, 1977. These standards are brought into operation as necessary to meet consumer requirements in the Community.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2520/71/EEC of 24th November, 1971, fixing, for the marketing season 1972–73, minimum prices for exports to third countries of certain flowering bulbs and tubers will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

Trade in spring flowering bulbs is mainly done in the autumn, and the regulation which will apply in Britain from 1st February to 31st May, 1973, is unlikely to have any effect on British industry. Arrangements will be made to inform British interests of the Community system, which follows an earlier voluntary arrangement between British and Dutch bulb interests.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 55/72/EEC of 10th January, 1972, laying down conditions for inviting tenders for the disposal of fruit and vegetables which have been withdrawn from the market, will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

This regulation, which will apply in Britain on 1st February, 1973, is not expected to have any immediate effect as British prices for fresh fruit and vegetables are above Community intervention levels. Contingency arrangements will be made, however, for the proposed Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce to operate its provisions.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2697/71/EEC of 17th December, 1971 on the procedure for imports of olive oil from Morocco will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

This regulation gives effect to provisions in the Association Agreement between Morocco and the EEC for imports of olive oil into the Community. It provides a preference for Morocco in a way which does not affect the import price. It would not therefore affect British industry.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2725/71/EEC of 20th December, 1971, amending Regulation (EEC) No. 888/68 as regards the definition of preserved beef and veal will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

This amending regulation reduces the total content of beef and jelly which preserved foods must contain in order that frozen beef may be imported free of levy for use in their manufacture. The operation of this arrangement in the United Kingdom is being discussed with the interests concerned.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2705/71/EEC of 20th December, 1971 on fixing for oils and fats the tolerance limits provided for in article 5 of Regulation (EEC) 786/69 will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

This regulation is concerned solely with financial accounting between FEOGA and the intervention agency and would not affect British industry in any way.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2764/71/EEC of 23rd December, 1971 on amending in respect of tariff nomenclature Regulations (EEC) Nos. 1077/68 and 1080/68 concerning processed products based on cereals will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement;(2) how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2806/71 /EEC of 23rd December, 1971 establishing supplementary rules concerning the grant of refund on export for certain processed products based on cereals and rice will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement;(3) how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2706/71/EEC of 25th December, 1971 on the method of testing peroxidase activity in certain products processed from cereals will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

These regulations make minor changes mainly in the Community's arrangements for import levies and export refunds. My right hon. Friend has no reason to think that they would have any significant effect on British industry.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2838/71/EEC of 24th December, 1971 supplementing Regulation (EEC) No. 805/68 with regard to advance fixing of the levy for beef and veal will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

Advance fixing of levies on imports of fresh and chilled beef is intended to assist exporters in more distant countries to compete on the Community market with those in countries nearby. United Kingdom importers will of course be able to take advantage of this provision after our accession on the same basis as those in other parts of the enlarged Community.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how and in what way the adoption of Regulation No. 2810/71/EEC of 23rd December, 1971 concerning the special system to be applied to certain frozen beef and veal imports will affect British industry engaged in these activities; and whether he will make a statement.

The Community regulations provide for the total or partial suspension of the levy on imports of certain types of frozen beef for processing. The procedure for operating this arrangement in the United Kingdom after our accession is being discussed with the interests concerned. The actual rate of suspension of the levy is varied from time to time according to circumstances on the Community market.

Trade And Industry

Hire Purchase Transactions

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will make a statement on the hire purchase aggregate load, now in excess of £1,700 million, measured in terms of retail prices; and when he estimates the figure of £2,000 million will be passed, at the present rate of increase in hire purchase transactions.

The recent growth of instalment credit demonstrates the effect of the removal of controls over hire purchase and other transactions last July. If instalment debt owed to finance houses and retailers were to go on increasing at the same average rate as it has since the controls were lifted, the total would reach £2,000 million about the end of this year.

Textile Industry

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has recently received from those engaged in the textile industry; and what reply he has sent.

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what communication he has recently had with representatives of the textile industry; and what his response has been.

Recent representations from the textile industry have covered a wide range of issues; those I am currently considering include views on alignment with the EEC's textile policies, and the growth of imports of man-made fibre textiles.

Company Profits

60.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if at his next meeting with officials of the Confederation of British Industry he will discuss limitation on company profits.

Development Areas

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what incentives are at present available for firms moving office and service employment into the development areas; and what improvements he has in mind.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given on 15th May by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Industrial Development to a question from my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Waddington) and to my reply yesterday to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Middlesbrough, West (Mr. Sutcliffe).—[Vol. 837, c. 19; 247–248.]

Civil Aviation

62.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when he expects to receive from the British Air- ways Board its report on the organisation of the group, and its recommendations on the future structure of civil aviation; and how soon he expects to be able to lay his proposals before Parliament as required by the Civil Aviation Act.

Mr. Nicholson has told my right hon. Friend that he hopes to make a report on the organisation of the British Airways Board group in July. The report will be laid before both Houses. The Act does not require my right hon. Friend to lay proposals before Parliament, but it would of course be our intention to keep Parliament informed.

Local Employment Act (Financial Assistance)

64.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will state the total financial assistance given in each of the last five years under the Local Employment Act to manufacturing industry and to service and office employment, respectively, and the number of jobs provided in each case.

I regret that information is not available in the form requested. The estimated value of assistance offered under the Act in the last five financial years in respect of projects in the manufacturing industries (Orders III—XIX of the Standard Industrial Classification) was, respectively, £36 million in 1967–68, £39·2 million in 1968–69, £74·7 million in 1969–70, £64·6 million in 1970–71 and provisionally £56·5 million in 1971–72. Comprehensive information is not available on the employment created by these projects but the employment estimated to arise when assistance was approved was 52,600 in 1967–68, 53,200 in 1968–69, 84,400 in 1969–70, 76,000 in 1970–71 and provisionally 44,200 in 1971–72. The estimated value of assistance offered in respect of projects in the service industries (Orders XXII—XXVII of the SIC) was £5·6 million in 1967–68 and £8·1 million in 1968–69. The value in subsequent years reflects the curtailment of assistance to these industries in July, 1968—£3·1 million in 1969–70, £1·9 million in 1970–71 and provisionally £0·8 million in 1971–72. Estimates of the employment in respect of which this assistance was approved are 9,000 in 1967–68, 13,900 in 1968–69, 5,600 in 1969–70, 3,300 in 1970–71 and provisionally 1,400 in 1971–72.

Tour Operators

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry (1) what representations he has received from Weights and Measures departments regarding suggested amendments to the Trade Descriptions Act, 1968 as it relates to tour operators; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will seek to amend the Trade Descriptions Act, 1968 in such a way that it is no defence for tour operators to plead that they have no responsibility in law for foreign hoteliers; and if he will make a statement.

I am aware of proposals sent to a number of hon. Members by the Institute of Weights and Measures Administration. Some individual authorities have also suggested amendments to the Act. I am not satisfied that it would be right to legislate on the lines of these proposals, but I shall certainly be ready to consider what improvements might be made to Section 14 when the time comes to review the Act.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what representations he has received about the extent to which tour operators are describing the length of a holiday in a way which does not indicate the number of full days of the holiday; and what replies he has sent.

GREAT BRITAIN*
INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATE. APPROVALS AND REFUSALS FROM 1ST JANUARY, 1972 TO 30THAPRIL, 1972, FOR SCHEMES OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND OVER
ApprovalsRefusals
RegionNumberNumberEstimated additional employment?
Northern37Nil
Yorkshire and Humberside85Nil
East Midlands66Nil
East Anglia53Nil
South Eastern213131,770
South Western39Nil
Wales26Nil
West Midlands1016720
North Western88Nil
Scotland56Nil
* The Industrial Development Certificate control does not operate in Northern Ireland.
† Figures provided by the applicants of jobs estimated to arise when the projects were complete and fully manned.

It is occasionally suggested to us that it is misleading to count part days as whole days, though whether anyone is thereby misled must partly depend on the supporting explanations in the relevant brochure. The attention of such complainants is usually drawn to the provisions of the Trade Descriptions Act in regard to statements about services, accommodation or facilities, and to the responsibility of local weights and measures authorities for their enforcement.

Consumer Council

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on the representations he has received asking for the replacement of the Consumer Council.

I am aware that various ideas have been put forward for new bodies to protect the consumer, but there have been very few representations of late calling for a body comparable to the former Consumer Council.

Industrial Development Certificates

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many applications have been received for industrial development certificates in each region of the United Kingdom in the first four months of this year; how many have been refused; and, of those refused, how many jobs they were estimated to create.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what was the total number of approved applications for industrial development certificates in each region over the past seven years; what was the total number of jobs expected from these approvals in each region: and how many jobs were created.

The following are the figures:

INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATES APPROVED FOR SCHEMES OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET AND OVER BETWEEN 1ST JANUARY, 1965 AND 31ST DECEMBER, 1971
RegionNumberEstimated additional employment
Northern1,124109,620
Yorkshire and Humberside1,59954,810
East Midlands1,24638,120
East Anglia83935,280
South Eastern4,227120,950
South Western1,07847,650
Wales99495,550
West Midlands1,72937,580
North Western2,177121,620
Scotland1,330127,500
1. Jobs estimated by the applicants to arise when the projects are complete and fully manned.2. The exemption limits were raised in 1966 and 1970.3. The area of industrial building has, since the introduction of the Industrial Development Act in August, 1966, been extended to include all ancillary space for storage, canteens etc. In the Northern Region, Scotland and Wales this system was in operation prior to 1966.I regret that figures of jobs created are not available.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many applications for industrial development certificates for projects in the Kidsgrove Urban District have been withdrawn in each of the past five years.

Pre-Tax Profits And Losses (Disclosure)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he is aware that certain public companies, contrary to the Companies Act, 1967, Section 17, fail to disclose the extent of pretax profit or loss situations of classes of business differing substantially from each other, albeit that details of turnover may be so revealed; and whether he will inform companies that the provision is mandatory and that the opinion of the direc- tors is confined solely to the definition of such different classes together with an appropriate presentation of the relevant profits.

The effect of Section 17 is that, where separate turnover figures are given for various classes of business, the extent to which those classes contributed to or restricted the profit or loss of the company before tax must also be shown. I will look into any violations of this provision which are brought to my attention.

Concorde

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will list the economic and other advantages of Concorde which he and his departmental Ministers are urging in their promotional discussions with other Governments or individuals.

Sales are BAC's responsibility but the advantages are the more rapid flow of commerce, and closer relations between countries through faster travel; improved competitiveness for the air lines which possess Concorde, and the special benefits to this country in employment, technological advance and the forging of closer industrial links with Europe.

Government Departments (Co Durham)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if, in view of the powers to be vested in him in the Industry Bill, he will state the criteria he will use in deciding the establishment of new Government Departments in the County of Durham.

The Industry Bill does not confer powers in relation to the location of new Government establishments. The criteria used in such cases remain operational efficiency and economy on the one hand and regional policy on the other.

Restrictive Practices (Professional Bodies)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry which of the professional bodies covered by the Monopolies Commission's Report of 1970 on Restrictive Practices in the Professions have reported modifications to their rules and practices following their examination of the report; and what steps are being considered by his Department to bring about implementation of the Commission's recommendations.

I invited all the professional associations which gave evidence to the Monopolies Commission or were mentioned in the report on the supply of professional services to examine their practices in the light of the report. Most of them have replied that they do not consider that they operate practices which are unduly restrictive or against the public interest. I am considering whether it would be appropriate to refer particular professions to the Monopolies Commission.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how and in what way the adoption of Regulation 2533/71/Euratom of 22nd November, 1971, amending the conditions applicable to remuneration and social security for staff members of the Joint Nuclear Research Centre posted to Italy will now, or on entry into the European Economic Community, affect British citizens appointed to such employment.

I have been asked to reply.The regulation increases the pay of certain grades of staff at the Centre and any British nationals who may serve there in the grades concerned will benefit.

Education And Science

Museums And Galleries (Charges)

65.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether, in view of the improvement in the nation's finances since 27th October, 1970, when she first announced the intention to impose admission charges to the national museums and galleries, it is now her policy to regard as outdated any assurances relating to the eventual implementation of such charges which were received by her prior to this announcement on 27th October, 1970.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answers given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to Questions on this subject on 16th May.—[Vol. 837, c. 232–3.]

Autistic Children

66.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether, in view of the number of children suffering from autism being treated in hospitals, she will seek to increase the number of staff in hospital schools so that none of these children will be left on the wards.

My Department is preparing guidance in consultation with the Department of Health and Social Security on the education of all children in hospitals, including the autistic. It is expected that a joint circular will be issued at the end of this year dealing inter alia with the matter raised by the hon. Member.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she envisages setting up the minimum number of 100 units for specialised education for autistic children which the National Society of Autistic Children have claimed to her are needed.

Provision of educational facilities for autistic children is the responsibility of local education authorities. While a number of these are providing special schools or units for autistic children only, others prefer to place these children in existing special or ordinary schools in accordance with their individual needs. There is much to be said for both practices.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she has received the report of the National Society for Autistic Children in which it is estimated that of some 6,000 autistic children in Great Britain only some 450 are receiving education in specialised units; and whether she will make a statement.

I have read with interest the National Society's report "Their Right to Learn and Live". Estimates of the numbers of autistic children vary widely, as do views on the most appropriate means of providing education for them, and I do not think our state of knowledge is adequate to make the document in question the basis of policy in this very difficult field. My Department offered advice to local education authorities on the education of autistic children in circular No. 6/71, issued in June of last year, and I do not think any further statement is called for at present.

Works Of Art (Preservation)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many national collections of works of art are housed in premises which are centrally heated, but which have no system of atmospheric control.

Of the national collections of works of art in England, only the Wallace Collection and the London Museum have no form of atmospheric control. A scheme of air conditioning is being prepared for the Wallace Collection, and the collections at the London Museum will be transferred to the Museum of London in 1974. The remaining eight institutions have partial or full atmospheric control in at least part of their premises. Questions about the national collections in Scotland and Wales should be addressed to the Secretary of State for Scotland and the Secretary of State for Wales.

University Grants Committee

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much money has been paid to the University Grants Committee by Her Majesty's Government in each of the last five years.

On the recommendation of the University Grants Committee and the Computer Board the Department of Education and Science has paid the following sums in capital and recurrent grants to universities and colleges in Great Britain:

Financial year£ million
1967–68233·5
1968–69240·7
1969–70250·9
1970–71295·0
1971–72 (provisional)323·8

Secondary School Building (Staffordshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much was spent on secondary school building in Staffordshire in each of the last 10 years; how many secondary schools were built in Staffordshire in each of these years; and what the comparable figures are for England and Wales as a whole.

Expenditure for England and Wales cannot be calculated without disproportionate effort. The remaining information, as reported by the local education authority, is as follows:

SECONDARY SCHOOL BUILDING
Value of projects completed (current prices)Number of projects completed
Stafford StaffordshireStaffordshireEngland and Wales
£ million
19622·28130
19632·08174
19641·66187
19650·31176
19661·15106
19671·33115
19681·01101
19691·2183
19701·2079
19711·2271

Northern Ireland

Referendum

67.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he is yet able to make an announcement about the holding of a referendum in Northern Ireland.

No. My right hon. Friend is not yet able to add to the reply given to Questions by my hon. Friends the Members for Belfast, North (Mr. Stratton Mills) and for Walthamstow, East (Mr. Michael McNairWilson) on 8th May, 1972.—[Vol. 836.c. 292.]

Housing

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what system is used in the letting of publicly owned houses in those areas of Northern Ireland which are no longer under the control of Her Majesty's Government.

The allocation of tenancies of all publicly owned houses in Northern Ireland is carried out on the basis of allocation schemes which have been approved by the Ministry of Development. For areas affected by disturbances normal letting procedures continue, but houses are occupied by squatters on occasions.

Browning Machine Gun (Londonderry)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he will take steps to capture the Browning machine gun mounted by the Irish Republican Army on the perimeter of the area which it controls in Londonderry.

My right hon. Friend is aware of a photograph apparently illustrating such a gun but its existence has not been confirmed. It is the policy of the security forces to seize illegally held weapons but they will not be provoked into action likely to lead to heavy civilian casualties.

Environment

Housing (Planning Permissions)

68.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he proposes to take to increase the number of new houses built in East Suffolk by encouraging an increase in the number of planning permissions taken up, in view of the fact that permissions involving 10,000 houses are outstanding.

The measures my right hon. Friend announced on 27th April are intended largely to ensure that land ripe for development is actually built upon. He is in addition arranging conferences with builders' representatives in East Anglia on 26th and 28th June, to identify areas of building land shortage where further study with all the local authorities concerned might be justified

69.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will institute forthwith legislation curtailing the validity of outline planning permissions to two years, detailed permissions to three years, and making all development projects subject to full liability for rating purposes on the expiry of 12 months from the granting of the planning permission on the basis of the assumed fulfilment thereof.

No. Suggestions of this kind were considered in the debate on land and houses, prices, on 27th April Authorities already have discretion to restrict the period of validity of a permission where there are planning reasons and I do not believe that compulsory restriction would materially accelerate development. On the second part of the Question I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Ipswich (Mr. Money) on 19th April last.—[Vol. 835, c. 93.]

Railway Workers (Pay)

70.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he has taken to invite British Railways to issue a public statement giving details of the present level of railwaymen's wages and the effect of the unions' claim and the board's proposals, including details of the value to railwaymen of concessionary fares and free travel; and if he will make a statement.

British Railways have already published details of present rates, and those now offered from 1st June, in a special edition of Rail News which has been sent to all railwaymen and also to each Member of this House. Information is not available on the value of concessionary fares. The use and value varies widely according to individual circumstances.

Housing Finance Bill

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether it is the intention of the Government, under Clause 50 of the Housing Finance Bill, to oblige local authorities and rent scrutiny boards to raise the rent levels of dwellings in the public sector of housing, if after use of his powers under Section 63(6) it is found that rents registered subsequently in the private sector for comparable properties are higher than was anticipated by the local authority.

Under Part V of the Bill local authorities are required to make provisional assessments of fair rents, and rent scrutiny boards are required to consider these assessments, in accordance with the principles in Clauses 50 and 58. Local authorities are required, subject to the provisions in Part VI of the Bill as to the progression to fair rents, to charge the fair rent as determined under Part V. It the rent of a dwelling resulting from an increase towards fair rents to which a direction under Clause 63(4) applies is less than the fair rent as subsequently determined, the dwelling is a qualifying dwelling for the purpose of subsequent increases towards fair rents in accordance with Clause 65.

Disabled Persons' Dwellings

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many purpose-built dwellings have been provided in Berkshire for disabled persons following the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act, 1970.

Between 29th August, 1970, the date on which Section 3 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act, 1970, came into force, and 31st March, 1972, housing authorities in Berkshire notified the Department of proposals for the provision of four dwellings for the disabled.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment in how many cases planning consent has been refused to the erection of a purpose-built building for a disabled person seeking to continue to live near to relatives; and if he will name any authority who has thus exercised its powers.

I know of only one such case. The authority concerned had been as helpful as possible in showing how the applicant's needs might be met without breaching planning principles.

Derelict Land (Nationalised Industries)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he will take steps to grant annual sums to the nationalised industries to be devoted towards the restoration of land made derelict by their operations on the cessation of their operations;(2) if he is satisfied with the steps being taken by nationalised industries to avoid making land derelict and to restore existing derelict land once it becomes surplus to their requirements; and if he will make a statement.

Generous grants are available to local authorities towards the cost of acquisition of derelict land, and then reclamation whoever the original owner may be. There is no reason why the acquisition procedure should not be applied to land belonging to nationalised industries in respect of which no requirements for restoration had been imposed under the Town and Country Planning Acts.

Road Improvements (East Suffolk)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the expenditure on main road improvement in East Suffolk in each year from 1966 to 1971, inclusive; and how much he anticipates spending on such improvement during the next two financial years.

Expenditure on the provision of new and improved trunk and principal roads in the county was as follows:

Financial Year ending 31st March£ thousand
1967518
1968882
1969944
1970625
19711,001
The figures include local authority spending on principal roads. Data for the 12 months ending March, 1972, will be available later this year.Major trunk and principal road schemes in East Suffolk estimated to cost in all £12 million are under construction or due to start by end of 1973. In addition, major schemes to a total value of more than £34 million are in preparation.

Green Belt (Building Encroachments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT details of the encroachments upon green belt areas in the North West Region he has approved for building purposes since June, 1970.

My right hon. Friend has given permission on appeal in one case involving 211 acres of land for residential development at Poynton in the North Cheshire green belt; and has allowed the local planning authority to determine two applications covering about 23 acres at Denton in the South—East Lancashire green belt. My right hon. Friend also decided, in consultation with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services, that the proposal to build a new hospital with housing for staff at Moss Side should be allowed to proceed. These instances do not include cases transferred, under Statute, for decision by my inspectors.All green belt proposals for the North Western Region are provisional and have not been formally approved but are given the same protection as approved green belt.

Pensioners (Travel Concessions)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities have now made provisions for pensioners to travel free on local buses, and how many made provisions for a reduced fare.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Roxburgh, Selkirk and Peebles (Mr. David Steel) on 26th April.—[Vol. 835, c. 301.]

Local Government Employees (Pension Contributions)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the percentage salary contribution paid by local government employees to their pension scheme.

Five per cent. for manual workers and 6 per cent. for other classes.

Carsington (Trial Boreholes)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when a decision will be announced on the public inquiry held at Buxton on 28th September, 1971, on the application of the Trent River Authority for orders to authorise the construction of trial boreholes at Carsington.

Regional Planning

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many structure plans have been formally submitted to him for his decision; and by which local planning authorities.

None. But commencement orders have been made requiring plans to be prepared by three groups of authorities whilst a further 97 authorities have been invited to start work on structure plans. Work is in progress on these plans and once the Town and Country Planning (Amendment) Bill has been enacted further commencement orders will be made. It will also then be possible for authorities preparing joint structure plans to proceed to the formal stages leading to submission.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many inspectors are currently available to his Department to conduct public local inquiries under the Planning Acts; and how many of these are full time civil servants.

Land Commission Sites (Sale)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will list the sites formerly owned by the Land Commission which have been sold to date during 1972, indicating in each case whether the purchaser was a public body, or a private firm, and in how many acres each lot was sold.

Sites disposed of to date in 1972 are:

To public authorities each in one lot
SiteAcreage
Bradford, Yorks111·73
Coulby Newham, Teesside805·46
Darlington, Yorks37·00
Huddersfield, Yorks1·67
Hutton Rudby, Teesside0·12
Mansfield, Notts118·07
Marton Farm, Teesside17·15
Redcar, Yorks0·13
Tingley, Yorks0·32
Walderslade, Kent20·50
Woking, Surrey14·68
To private firms each in one lot
SiteAcreage
11·93
Goldborne, Lanes51·58
Redcar, Yorks141·55
Sholing, Southampton1·73
Skegness, Lincs6·96
Stanley, Yorks34·39
Tingley, Yorks2·30

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will list the sites formerly owned by the Land Commission which are still owned by his Department; and when he expects to have disposed of them.

Sites not yet disposed of are:

  • Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire.
  • Earl Shilton, Leicestershire.
  • Chaddesden,Derbyshire.
  • Asket Hill, Leeds.
  • Hornchurch, Essex.
It is expected all these sites will be disposed of by the end of this year.

Rainbow Shaw, Essex

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made towards replanting Rainbow Shaw in Linford, Thurrock, Essex.

A condition of planning permission for sand and gravel working in this area, given on appeal by a former Minister of Housing and Local Government, was that a tree planting scheme should be agreed between the company and the local planning authority who are responsible for seeing that the condition is fulfilled. I suggest that the hon. Member should enquire of the Essex County Council about the progress made towards replanting Rainbow Shaw.

Office Employment (Dispersal)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will state the total number of clerical and other office jobs dispensed from London and the South-East, respectively, in each of the last five years.

The following are the numbers of jobs moved from central London by clients of the Location of Offices Bureau during each of the last five years ended 31st March:

1967–6814,002
1968–6910,995
1969–709,367
1970–718,040
1971–7212,884
55,288
Research by the bureau suggests that total movement from central London is probably twice that amount. Deducting the dispersal from central London to the rest of the greater London area, I estimate that some 70,000 office jobs may have been moved out of greater London during the last five years. Information is not available on the amount of office dispersal out of the South-East in this period.

Houses (Sale By Local Authorities)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many houses were built by local authorities for sale in England and Wales in each of the last five years.

The number of houses reported by local authorities as built specifically for sale in England and Wales in each of the last five years is as follows:

19671,667
19681,408
19691,060
1970585
1971363

National House Condition Survey

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if the results of his sample National House Condition Survey for 1971 are now available.

The Survey, undertaken last autumn, covered 6,000 dwellings first inspected in a similar survey in 1967. I can now give the main results.While the total number of dwellings in England and Wales has increased by 1·4 million since 1967, the number that are unfit by Housing Act standards has decreased from 1·8 million to 1·2 million. Of this latter figure, about 700,000 are judged to be in existing or potential clearance areas compared with 1·1 million in 1967.The number of dwellings lacking one or more of the basic amenities—internal WC, fixed bath, wash hand-basin, kitchen sink and a hot water supply—fell from 3·9 million in 1967 to 2·9 million in 1971 of which 1·0 million are in an unfit condition.The number lacking each amenity has fallen similarly. In 1971, 2·0 million lacked an inside WC (2·9 million in 1967), 1·3 million lacked a fixed bath (2·1 million in 1967), 2·0 million lacked a washbasin (3·0 million in 1967), and 2·4 million lacked hot water at the three points (3·4 million in 1967).Full results will be available later in the year. A selection of statistical tables together with a short commentary will be published in the Department's Housing Survey Report series.

Metal Containers (Working Party)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the working party on the design, use, and disposal of metal containers to be set up by the Tin Box Manufacturers Federation on his initiative has started work.

Yes: and officials of the Department of the Environment, the Department of Trade and Industry and the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food are associated with it.The working Party's terms of reference are:

  • (a) to establish facts on the production, use and disposal of metal containers in relation to environmental matters;
  • (b) to examine means of designing metal containers in a manner that will facilitate disposal or reclamation;
  • (c) to examine means and practicability of reclaiming metal from containers;
  • (d) in preparing its report, the Working Party will take into account the report of the Department of the Environment's Working Party on Refuse Disposal (April, 1971).
  • Foreign And Commonwealthaffairs

    Rhodesia

    71.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he has now finished his studies upon the Pearce Report; and if he will make a statement.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the statement which my right hon. Friend made earlier this afternoon.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) when the English translation of Part 4 Competition Regulation No. 2822/71/EEC of 20th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;(2) when the English translation of Part 21 Cereals Regulation 2764/71 /EEC of 23rd December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament; and what action he proposes to take to speed up the publication of such documents in future;

    (3) when the English translation of Part 21 Cereals Regulation 2706/71/EEC of 23rd December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (4) when the English translation of Part 20 Beef and Veal Regulation 2725/71/ EEC on 20th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (5) when the English translation of Part 20 Beef and Veal Regulation 2838/ 71/EEC on 24th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (6) when the English translation of Part 14, Agricultural Finance, FEOGA, Regulation 2705/71/EEC, of 20th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (7) when the English translation of Part 28, Fruit and Vegetables, Regulation 55/72/EEC, of 10th January, 1972, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (8) when the English translation of Part 28, Fruit and Vegetables, Regulation 2839/71/EEC, of 24th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (9) when the English translation of Part 26, Food Standards, Directive 72/2/EEC of 20th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (10) when the English translation of Part 24, Fisheries, Regulation 245/71/ EEC, of 15th November, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (11) when the English translation of Part 23, Eggs and Albumins, Regulation 2502/71/EEC, of 22nd November, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (12) when the English translation of Part 21, Cereals, Regulation 2806/71/ EEC, of 23rd December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (13) when the English translation of Part 23, Oils and Fats, 2697/71 /EEC of 17th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (14) when the English translation of Part 31, Live Plants and Flowers, Regulation 2520/71/EEC, of 24th November, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (15) when the English translation of Part 39, Sugar, Regulation No. 2829/71/ EEC of 24th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament;

    (16) when the English translation of Part 39, Sugar, Regulation No. 2863/71/ EEC of 30th December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament:

    (17) when the English translation of Part 20, Beef and Veal, Regulation No. 2810/71/EEC, of 23rd December, 1971, became available to Members of Parliament.

    English texts of the instruments were published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office on 5th May and became available to hon. Members through the Vote Office on that day.

    Civil Service, State Boards And Judiciary (Pay)

    Q13.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will take the necessary action to increase the salaries of the chairmen of the nationalised boards, the higher paid civil servants, judges, and those employed by the State on salaries of £20,000 per annum by 20 per cent.

    I have nothing to add to the answers I gave to Questions from the hon. Member on 27th April.—[Vol. 835, c. 358–9.]

    14.

    asked the Prime Minister why, in view of the fact that the Boyle Committee Report on the pay of the higher incomes group within the Civil Service, Judiciary and State industries was available six weeks or more ago, he has not arranged for the publication and circulation of this report; and whether he will take the necessary action to make this report available to Members of Parliament.

    This report will be published with the Government's decisions in due course.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will give the date upon which he received the Boyle Committee Report on the pay increases of the higher paid civil servants, chairmen of the nationalised boards and judges; whether he is aware that the Institution of Professional Civil Servants is protesting at the Government's delay in making a statement on these proposals; and when he expects to announce the Government's decision regarding this report.

    I have nothing to add to the answers I gave to Questions from the hon. Member on 27th April—[Vol 835, c. 358–9]—and earlier today.

    Civil Service

    European Communities Secondary Legislation

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he is now able to give the actual or estimated costs of publishing the pre-accession series of English texts of the European Communities Secondary Legislation published on 13th January, 1972; and what he estimates would be the cost of publishing an up-to-date list containing the 144 pages of corrections as contained in the list published in May, 1972.

    The cost of printing and publishing the pre-accession texts published on 13th January, 1972, was £119,300. It is estimated that the cost of republishing on the basis suggested would be approximately £80,000.

    Defence

    Trooping The Colour

    asked the Minister of State for Defence what is the cost of erecting stands in Horse Guards Parade for Trooping the Colour this year.

    The charge is not borne on public funds. I understand, however, that the cost involved in the provision of the stands will be in the nature of £17,000.

    Northern Ireland

    asked the Minister of State for Defence whether the official Irish Republican Army mobile patrol has yet been observed by the Army in Belfast.

    asked the Minister of Defence if he will give details of an explosion which occurred at Thomas Street, Portadown, County Armagh, on Sunday, 14th May, 1972; what was the amount of gelignite used; what is the estimate of damage caused to property; and why there was not a full evacuation of the area.

    At about 11.30 p.m. an explosion occurred in a van which had been left in Thomas Street, Portadown. An anonymous telephone call had given 10 minutes' warning and security forces had evacuated the area as fully as possible in the limited time available. Army ammunition technical officers estimated that the bomb had contained about 50 lb. of explosive. It caused no casualties but it caused structural damage to two shops and it caused less extensive damage to about 70 other premises.

    asked the Minister of State for Defence, how many D-notices have been issued in Northern Ireland since 24th March, 1972.

    Ulster Defence Regiment

    asked the Minister of State for Defence why there has been a reduction in expenditure on Press and television advertising for recruitment to the Ulster Defence Regiment since the end of March, 1972.

    Recruiting expenditure is not constant and the slight reduction in this particular case has no special significance.

    Home Department

    Urban Programme (Holiday Projects)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what basis the amount of money allocated to the London Borough of Ealing in respect of holiday projects, under the Urban Programme, has been calculated.

    Demand from local authorities for aid for holiday projects in 1972 was exceptionally strong and only one-seventh of all bids could be approved. Three out of eight of Ealing's holiday projects were, however, approved in recognition of their special needs.

    Metropolitan Police (Surplus Uniforms)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will issue instructions that all surplus Metropolitan Police uniforms should be destroyed.

    On the available information, my right hon. Friend is not persuaded that it is necessary to go as far as this.

    Private Security Forces (Licensing)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation to licence all private security forces.

    My right hon. Friend has at present no proposals for such legislation.

    Privacy (Younger Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what date he now anticipates the Younger Committee Report on Privacy will be published.

    Posts Andtelecommunications

    Television Licence Fees (Non-Payment)

    asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications if he will list the provisions of the law which lay down the extent of judicial discretion available to a magistrates' court with regard to defendants accused of nonpayment of television licences.

    Under Section 14 of the Wireless Telegraphy Act, 1949, as amended by Section 11 of the Wireless Telegraphy Act, 1967, the maximum penalty for the unlicensed use of a television set is a fine of £50 for a first offence and of £100 for any subsequent offence. Within these maxima the sentence imposed is a matter for the court's discretion.

    Scotland

    Tyre Factory (Perth)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when the public inquiry relating to the proposed tyre factory near Perth was completed; and when he expects to receive the report.

    The inquiry began on 6th October, 1971, and ended on 20th October. The reporter has circulated the factual part of his report to parties for their comments by the end of May, and when he has considered these comments he will complete and submit his report to me as soon as possible.

    Wales

    Forestry Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the total number of persons employed by the Forestry Commission in Wales at the last convenient date; what was the cor- responding total 10 years ago; and what trends he envisages, either by way of increase or decrease, in this number within the next year.

    The total number of persons employed by the Forestry Commission in Wales on 1st April, 1972, was 1,686. The corresponding figure on 1st April, 1962, was 3,289. The number is expected to decrease by about 2 per cent. by 1st April, 1973.

    Roads (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the amount currently spent per annum per head of population in Wales on roads; and what is the corresponding figure for England

    In 1970–71 the figures were £15·3 for Wales and £13·4 for England. Provisional estimates for 1971–72 suggest that the figure for Wales has risen to about £20 and for England to about £15.

    Hotel Survey

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will request the Welsh Economic Council to make a survey of the potential of the small hotels of Wales and to make recommendations.