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Volume 840: debated on Tuesday 11 July 1972

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 11th July, 1972

Social Services

Handicapped Persons (Aids And Services)

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what research is being undertaken by his Department into the need for, and the provision by local authorities of, physical aids, television sets, telephones and talking books for persons who are registered as physically handicapped.

There are several research projects financed by my Department which are relevant to these needs. Statistical information about the provision made to meet them will become available in the summer of 1973.

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what work is being done on the design and evaluation of aids for the disabled; what steps are being taken to improve assessment of the technical needs for the disabled; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the first report published on 8th December, 1971, under Section 22 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act, 1970, HC 30, 1971–72. I expect the second report to be available shortly.

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied that enough money is being made available through the rate support grant in response to requests from local authorities to meet the needs for help revealed by surveys to identify handicapped persons; and if he will make a statement.

The forecasts of relevant expenditure attracting rate support grant in 1971–72 and 1972–73 provided for increased spending on services for the handicapped. Local authorities' views on further expenditure will be taken into account in the negotiations on grant for 1973–74 which are to take place later this year.

Retirement Pensioners' Wives (Benefits)

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will review the position of retirement pensioners' wives who are between the ages of 60 and 65 years with a view to increasing the concessions and benefits available.

I assume that the hon. Member is referring to exemption from prescription charges. Help is available to those who cannot afford to pay prescription charges and we see no reason to alter the existing arrangements.

War Disablement Pensions (Payment Date)

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will exercise his discretion under Article 65 of the Royal Warrant to authorise the payment dates of war disablement pensions following successful appeals, in accordance with the assessments made by the chairmen of pensions appeal tribunals, and not from the dates when applicants first submit their cases for appeal.

I set out the circumstances in which my right hon. Friend exercises his discretion in my reply to my hon. Friend on 23rd June. I have written to my hon. Friend about the problem which caused him concern and think that we have resolved the difficulty.—[Vol. 839. c. 207.]

Telephones

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further advice he now intends to give local authorities about the provision of telephones for persons housebound by age or infirmity in the light of his current studies of methods of communication.

The local authority associations concerned have recently recommended to their members revised minimum criteria for the provision of telephones, and these are given below. Additionally, we are in touch with the two studies which the National Council for the Care of Old People is sponsoring into methods of communication, but reports on these will not be available for some time.Following is the information:

As requested, a number of local authorities have submitted comments on their experience of operating the provisional criteria recommended in the joint circular of March, 1971. In the light of their comments and after consultation with the Central Council for the Disabled, the associations have agreed to recommend the following modified criteria;
"Telephones should be provided for people who meet the following minimum criteria:
I.
  • (a) live alone; or
  • (b) are frequently left alone; or
  • (c) live with a person or persons who are not in a position or cannot be relied on, to be able either to deal with an emergency or to maintain necessary outside contacts.
  • II.
  • (a) have a prima facieneed to be able to get in touch with a doctor, ancillary medical worker or helper; and
  • (b) are in danger or at risk unless provided with a telephone.
  • III.
  • (a) are either unable to leave the house in normal weather without the help of an other person or have seriously restricted mobility; and
  • (b) in the view of the authority need a telephone to avoid isolation.
  • Criteria I and either II or III should be satisfied in full and there should be no family friends and neighbours available, willing and able to help."

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many applications for free installation and/or rental of telephones for the elderly or handicapped to the Supplementary Benefits Commission have been rejected by that body, but subsequently accepted by a local authority, within the latest available 12-month period.

    I regret that information in the form requested is not available. Under arrangements recently made between the commission and local authority associations designed to avoid duplication of action, applications for help with telephone costs are considered in the first instance by local authorities. The commission will, however, consider assisting in cases which appear to a local authority to satisfy the commission's criteria for giving help.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many telephones have been supplied to elderly or handicapped persons in England and Wales in the latest 12-month period for which figures are available, through the Supplementary Benefits Commission; and what has been the total cost.

    In the 12-month period ending February, 1972, the commission provided help with the cost of telephones in 19 cases in England and Wales. The help given may have been with rental or installation costs, or both, in part or in full, according to individual circumstances; and records are not kept in such a form as to enable the total cost to be given.

    Pensions And Benefits

    31.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the level of social security payments following the flotation of sterling; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services in view of the effect which the floating of the £ sterling will have on the sick, unemployed, and war pensioners, if he will now raise the payment of all welfare benefits.

    I am confident that the proposed increases in retirement pensions and related benefits from October will more than compensate for any erosion of purchasing power since the last uprating.

    34.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what study he has made of the weekly budget submitted by the hon. Member for Clackmannan and East Stirlingshire on behalf of one of his constituents in relation to his evaluation of social security benefits; and what reply he has sent.

    My reply points out that the retirement pension will be increased in October by 75p, which will give a further modest increase in purchasing power, and reiterates the Government's pledge at least to maintain and where-ever possible to improve the value of pensions through our annual reviews.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now consider a review of the system of the payment of social security benefits to ensure payment of increases immediately they are agreed by the Government.

    The procedures were recently reviewed by a working party under the chairmanship of Sir Richard Meyjes, the leader of the businessmen's team in the Civil Service Department. This very thorough investigation produced a number of useful suggestions, but the uprating of millions of pensions with other associated benefits is an immense task and the working party found that a significant reduction in the time needed was not practicable.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services in view of the increase in the cost of living caused by the floating of the £ sterling, if he will now take action to increase the 75p due to pensioners in the autumn and to bring this payment forward to July.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the additional cost of back-dating the increase in retirement pensions and other benefits from October, 1972 to May, 1972.

    Family Income Supplement

    33.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the latest percentage of persons claiming family income supplement of those who are eligible for such.

    The number of families receiving family income supplement at the end of May was approximately 80,000. This represents roughly half the number estimated to be eligible; about three-quarters of those entitled to £2 a week or more were receiving the benefit.

    Retirement Pensions (Relative Contributions)

    35.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what, after the next pension uprating, will be the relative contributions for the same basic retirement pensions of the average and below-average earners compared with those with above average earnings.

    After 2nd October a man with average earnings of £31 per week who is fully participating in the gradu- ated scheme will pay flat-rate and graduated contributions totalling £1·95 compared with £1·33 for a man earning £18 and £2·73 for a man earning £48 or more. Entitlement to basic retirement pension will, however, still be based on the payment of flat-rate contributions, and payment of graduated contributions will confer title to graduated pensions in addition and to earnings related supplement to short-term benefits.

    Mental Illness (Lost Working Days)

    36.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many working days were lost in 1971 in Great Britain due to mental illness.

    Information is available only about days of certified incapacity notified to the Department in connection with claims to sickness benefit. The number of such days attributed to mental disorders in the 53 weeks ended 5th June, 1971, was 30·5 million, of which 18·3 million related to incapacity lasting throughout the period.

    Cottage Hospitals

    37.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he proposes to ensure the future of cottage hospitals; and if he will make a statement.

    The future of cottage hospitals is linked with policy on community hospitals on which, as I said in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Faversham (Mr. Moate) on 13th June, I intend to make a statement when the current consultations are complete.—[Vol. 838, c. 1239–40.]

    Mentally Handicapped Persons (Yorkshire And Humberside)

    32.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many residential units there are for the mentally handicapped in the Yorkshire and Humberside Region; what number of places there are in each unit; and how many are being planned for 1975.

    YORKSHIRE (REGIONAL PLANNING AREA NO. 2)
    COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL UNITS FOR THE MENTALLY

    HANDICAPPED

    Existing

    Under Construction

    Planned

    Local Authority Homes

    Private or

    Local Authority Homes

    Local Authority Homes

    Adults

    Children

    Registered Homes

    Adults

    Children

    Adults

    Children

    Authority

    Units

    Number of places

    Units

    Number of places

    Units

    Number of places

    Units

    Number of places

    Units

    Number of places

    Units

    Number of places

    Units

    Number of places

    East Riding of Yorkshire County Council.116120360
    120
    North Riding of Yorkshire County Council125110125240112
    West Riding of Yorkshire County Council.13011637013325464
    18
    4 group homes for 4, 4, 3 and 3 residents
    Barnsley County Borough Council112
    30 mentally handicapped adults in old people's homes
    Bradford County Borough Council124*112122115478
    125(adults)
    2 Council house group homes for 8 persons
    Dewsbury County Borough Council117116
    Doncaster County Borough Council11118110
    17
    Halifax County Borough Council25 beds each113 (adults)
    Huddersfield County Borough Council121125
    Kingston upon Hull County Borough Council.127125115
    Leeds County Borough Council119120112260
    140(adults)
    139
    Rotherham County Borough Council120*
    125
    Sheffield County Borough Council11618236481350
    Wakefield County Borough Council116125
    York County Borough Council18125

    *Includes some places for the mentally ill.

    Pensioners (Concessions)

    38.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals he has for remedying the injustice at pre sent suffered by pensioners taking their pensions quarterly in arrear in that during the first quarter they are unable to obtain concessions in the fields of travel, education and entertainment to which the pension book normally entitles pensioners.

    The operation of concessionary schemes and the documentary evidence required are the responsibility of the organisations promoting them. When a retirement pension is awarded, an entitlement notice is issued to the pensioner and this is usually accepted in lieu of a pension book by organisations offering concessions.A person not paid by order book who requires an alternative means of identifying himself as a pensioner is issued with a card confirming his status on request.

    Huntingdon Hospital

    39.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of the fact that it has been decided that the Huntingdon and Godmanchester bypass should be built within a few yards of Huntingdon hospital, and of the consequences of this decision on life and work in the hospital, whether he will arrange for the East Anglia Hospital Board to expedite the building of the new hospital which it is proposed to build in Hinching-brooke Park.

    Extra money provided by the Government for hospital building has enabled the East Anglian Regional Hospital Board to start construction of a new hospital this year instead of the mid-1970s as originally intended.

    Death Of Child (Forest Of Dean)

    41.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will investigate the circumstances in which a child died whilst being attended to by a person not being a medical practitioner but practising as such in the Forest of Dean; and if he will inquire to discover what other cases have occurred in similar circumstances.

    I am aware of Press reports and am making urgent inquiries into the circumstances surrounding the provision of general medical services by the person in question.

    Hospitals (English-Speaking Staff)

    42.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the proportion of causalty officers and other medical and nursing staff unable to converse fluently, and to write, in English; and what is the policy of the National Health Service in this regard.

    The appointment of hospital staff, and the assessment of their suitability for the work they will have to do, are matters for hospital authorities. Immigrant doctors must first undertake a period of attachment to a hospital during which their use of English is assessed in clinical situations, unless they are in a category exempted from this requirement under arangements providing other safeguards. Guidance will shortly be issued on orientation arrangements for student nurses from overseas.

    Nurses And Hospital Officers (Retirement Allowances)

    44.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now introduce regulations to pay retired members of the Federated Superannuation Scheme for Nurses and Hospital Officers allowances analogous to the in creases in National Health Service pensions provided under the Pensions (In crease)Act, 1971.

    Yes. Draft regulations have recently been agreed with representatives of the staff interests and will be made very shortly. Payment will be retrospective to 1st September, 1971.

    National Health Service (Reorganisation)

    45.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consultations he has had with hospital management committees since the publication of the consultative document "National Health Service Reorganisation" in May, 1971.

    Consultations have been held with hospital management committees collectively on the consultative document itself and on a number of other matters related to health service reorganisation, as well as with some individual committees on specific issues.

    54.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consultation he has had upon the need for local authorities to provide buildings and staff for the care of patients who will be moved from psychiatric hospitals when the National Health Service reorganisation begins to operate in April, 1974.

    The reorganisation of the National Health Service from April, 1974, will be a change in administrative structure and will not of itself necessitate any transfers of patients. The need for this will arise from the changes already under way, but likely to take many years to complete, in the pattern of treatment and community care for the mentally ill and the mentally handicapped. Joint planning by hospital and local authorities is already in progress to assess the changes that will be needed locally.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what extent he has facilitated the National Health Service Reorganisation Management Study with the officers, staff and management consultants concurrently reorganising health services in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

    The management study has had available to it the report of the Project Team on the Reorganisation of Health and Personal Social Services in Northern Ireland, and the consultative documents prepared by the Scottish Home and Health Department on the "Administrative Structure of Health Boards" and the "Management of District Health Services", together with other working papers.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he proposes to discuss the final report of the National Health Service Reorganisation Management Study with the British Medical Association, Medical Practitioners' Union, Royal College of Nursing, National Association of Local Government Employees, Confederation of Health Service Employees, National Union of Public Employees and other organisations of persons within the National Health Service before he reaches any conclusion which changes the work and responsibilities of the categories concerned.

    Before I reach conclusions, there will be full opportunities to comment on the report and I shall, where appropriate, arrange discussions with interested organisations.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the multi-disciplinary experience of the Hospital Advisory Service has been considered by the consultants in charge of the National Health Service Reorganisation Management Study; and if he will seek evidence from the Hospital Advisory Service before completing his White Paper.

    The material examined by the Management Study Group has included the annual reports of the Hospital Advisory Service and reports on the internal management of particular hospitals; and the White Paper will take account of its rôle in the National Health Service.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the terms of reference of the National Health Service Reorganisation Management Study include an examination of the collaborative and participatory kinds of organisation which exist in other countries which have comprehensive health care provided by the State.

    Not explicitly, since in the time available it was necessary for the study to concentrate on the circumstances in this country.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied that those involved in the management, voluntary and administrative, of the National Health Service are fully informed of the progress towards administrative reorganisation consequent upon his consultative document; how many representations were made to him; and if he will make a statement.

    My consultative document was followed by wide consultations and discussions; comments were received from nearly 600 organisations and individuals. I shall announce my conclusions in the White Paper which is to be published shortly. It is my intention to ensure that all concerned are kept fully informed about proposals and decisions relating to the administrative reorganisation of the service.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he can now state the date when he will lay his proposals for changes in the National Health Service before the House.

    I expect to publish a White Paper shortly, though I cannot yet state an exact date for this.

    Chiropody

    46.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services which local authorities charge patients receiving supplementary allowance for chiropody services.

    Pneumoconiosis

    47.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has now received a report from the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council on the diagnostic procedure in determining pneumoconiosis; and if he will make a statement.

    The council has not yet completed its major pneumoconiosis review, of which this is one aspect. I am unable to say when it will be in a position to report.

    Valium (Cost)

    48.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will establish a unit price with the manufacturers of valium and all other tranquillisers used in the National Health Service to ensure that the same rate of cost applies to tablets of 10 milligrams as that paid for tablets of two and five milligrams.

    No. Several factors affect the price of one strength of a drug compared with other strengths. I realise that there are special circumstances at present in the case of valium, but the price of that drug is already the subject of a reference to the Monopolies Commission and I assume that any unusual pattern in the price will be amongst the matters considered by the commission.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will advise hospital dispensers and hospital supplies officers that whereas two 5 milligram tablets of valium cost l·54p one tablet of 10 milligrams is priced at 1·80p.

    No. Under a contract recently placed for the supply of valium to hospitals in the National Health Service the price of two 5 milligram tablets is 0·03p more than the price of one 10 milligram tablet, based on the price for a pack of 100 tablets.

    Rickets (Birmingham Children)

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he has for further research work to determine the extent of the disease of rickets amongst Birmingham schoolchildren; and what money his Department proposes to allocate for this.

    The whole question of rickets was last extensively reviewed in 1969 when the conclusion was reached that there was no evidence of an important incidence of sub-clinical deficiency. We are, however, seeking expert advice on the present situation and when this has been studied in the Department I shall write to my hon. Friend.

    Handicapped Children (Long-Stay Hospitals)

    50.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many mentally- and physically-handicapped children were in long-stay hospitals at the latest date for which figures are available.

    At the end of 1970 there were in hospital about 6,300 mentally handicapped children, many of whom are also physically handicapped. An estimate made in April, 1969, of the number of physically handicapped children in non-psychiatric wards who had been in-patients for four months or more showed a total of some 1,400.

    National Disability Income

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has now received the Disablement Income Group Occasional Paper on a National Disability Income; what representation he has received on this subject from the Disablement Income Group and other relevant organisations; and if he will make a statement on the possible creation of a disability income.

    I have seen a copy of the occasional paper and I am fully aware of the views of the Disablement Income Group. I would refer the hon. Member to the steps which the Government have already taken and are taking to mark out the special position of the chronically sick and disabled, through the introduction last year of the invalidity benefit preferences and of the attendance allowance, and now through the proposed extension of the latter.

    Rehabilitation (Tunbridge Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is his Department's policy regarding the provision of domiciliary physiotherapy services in health centres; what encouragement and support is given for the provision of such services; what estimate he has made of economies and improvements in service that would arise from the provision of such facilities; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will accept the recommendadation of the Tunbridge Committee Report on Rehabilitation that comprehensive limb fitting and appliances centres associated with district general hospitals should be developed as special referral centres, each one to cover the needs of a population of 1½ to 2 million; and if he will make a statement;(3) if he will accept the recommendation in paragraph 184 of the Tunbridge Committee Report on Rehabilitation that as many handicapped children as possible should attend normal schools and that special provision should be made for them in all new schools; and if he will make a statement;(4) if he will accept the recommendation in paragraphs 217 of the Tunbridge Committee Report on Rehabilitation that hospital authorities should nominate a suitably trained consultant psychiatrist to be responsible for the supervising at all stages of rehabilitation in mental illness hospitals and mental illness departments of district general hospitals; if he will give special consideration to the provision of suitable training facilities by the appropriate bodies for training such staff; and if he will make a statement;

    (5) if he will accept the recommendation of paragraph 247 of the Tunbridge Committee Report on Rehabilitation that all accident centres should be supported by adequate rehabilitation centres; and if he will make a statement;

    (6) if he will implement the recommendation in paragraph 280 of the Tunbridge Report on Rehabilitation that general practitioners shall be directly advised of the value to them of attending hospital assessment clinics at which their patients are discussed if on consultant's advice if should be acceptable for the appropriate member of the hospital remedial staff to make a domiciliary visit when patients are unable to attend the hospital; and if he will make a statement;

    (7) if he will implement the recommendation of the Tunbridge Report on Rehabilitation that medical staff working in the school health service should possess, in addition to their clinical skills, full knowledge of the principles and the provision of ordinary and special education; and if he will make a statement;

    (8) if he will accept the recommendation in paragraph 355 of the Tunbridge Report on Rehabilitation regarding the importance of educating the public in general of the value and advantages of proper rehabilitation; and if he will make a statement;

    (9) if he is prepared to accept recommendation I of paragraph 94 of the Tunbridge Report on Rehabilitation; and if he will make a statement;

    (10) if he will accept the recommendation 2 of paragraph 97 of the Tunbridge Report that operational and other research should be undertaken into the demand for and provision of rehabilitation facilities in the national service; if he accepts that such research should be co-ordinated and supported nationally but should not overlook local initiative; and if he will make a statement;

    (11) if he will accept the recommendation in paragraph 122 of the Tunbridge Report that there should be a consultant in charge of the rehabilitation department in each district general hospital, and that he should be called the consultant in rehabilitation; if he will require that a substantial part of his time be devoted to the work of rehabilitation and that he may be drawn from any clinical speciality; and if he will make a statement;

    (12) if he accepts the recommendation of the Tunbridge Report of the appointment of a non-medically qualified co-ordinator to organise the programmes of patients attending rehabilitation departments; and if he will make a statement;

    (13) if he accepts the recommendation in paragraph 131 of the Tunbridge Report that a person be appointed to deal with the transport arrangements for patients attending the rehabilitation department; and if he will make a statement;

    (14) if he accepts the Tunbridge recommendation that assessment clinics should provide the initial basis for all services concerned with future rehabilitation action on behalf of the patient; and if he will make a statement;

    (15) if he will accept the Tunbridge Committee Report that clinical psychologists be appointed to all rehabilitation departs; and if he will make a statement;

    (16) if he accepts the Tunbridge recommendation that the delegation of responsibility for day-to-day treatment of patients should be permitted to members of the remedial professions provided that they are always under the supervision of the appropriate consultant; and if he will make a statement;

    (17) if he is prepared to accept and implement the Tunbridge recommendation that patients receiving intensive physiotherapy should have their progress reviewed at least once a fortnight, and preferably weekly; and if he will make a statement;

    (18) if he accepts the Tunbridge recommendation that those responsible for hospitals should review the procedure in their hospitals to ensure that remedial treatment is correctly prescribed and recorded; and if he will make a statement;

    (19) if he will accept the recommendation by the Tunbridge Committee that an analysis of the work of the remedial professions based on hospitals throughout the country randomly selected should be undertaken urgently, and that this study should precede any reorganisation of the career structure or rôle of these professions; and if he will make a statement;

    (20) if he will accept the Tunbridge recommendation that in spite of adminis- tration difficulties, urgent consideration should be given to the provision of a certificate of incapacity; and if he will make a statement;

    (21) if he will accept the Tunbridge recommendations that several experimental appointments of area managers be made to be responsible for work contracts for rehabilitation workshops and for workshops run by local authorities and grant-aided by the Department of Employment; and if he will make a statement;

    (22) if he will accept the Tunbridge Report that a number of adequately staffed research units should be set up to study methods of remedial therapy suit able for young children; and if he will make a statement;

    (23) if he will accept the recommendation of the Tunbridge Committee that consideration should be made to the urgent need for training of the medical and other professions in the new aspects and special problems of rehabilitation as applied to the older age groups in modern geriatric practice, and if he will make a statement;

    (24) if he is prepared to accept the recommendation of the Tunbridge Report that it should examine the whole question of remuneration for therapeutic work in hospitals; and if he will make a statement;

    (25) if he will accept the Tunbridge Report recommendation that the problems of the partially sighted should be subject to studies designed to ascertain the needs of this group and the way in which their needs can best be met; and if he will make a statement;

    (26) if he will accept the Tunbridge recommendation that consideration should be given to the provision of special rehabilitation facilities for those suffering from deafness and that more research should be undertaken into the needs of the deaf and to the ways in which they can obtain maximum benefit from the services available; and if he will make a statement.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Derby, North (Mr. Whitehead) and my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Norman Lamont) earlier today.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will accept the recommendation of the Tunbridge Committee Report on Rehabilitation for the co-ordination of common training for the remedial profession for the first year and a considerable proportion of the second year; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will accept the recommendation in paragraph 348 of the Tunbridge Report on Rehabilitation that the age of entry to training for the remedial profession should be reduced to 17 years; and if he will make a statement;(3) if he will accept the Tunbridge Report recommendation that training for the remedial profession should be concentrated into some 20 centres in England and Wales; if he will consider integrating these centres with centres of further education; and if he will make a statement.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Derby, North (Mr. Whitehead) and my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Norman Lament) earlier today. Any alteration to training arrangements will need to be considered in the first place with the Council for Professions Supplementary to Medicine, the body responsible for co-ordinating the activities of the relevant registration boards.

    Drugs (Injections)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to deal with the increase in the practice of adding drugs to large volume injections and to promote the general recognition of the hazards to health this involves.

    I am aware of the concern about this practice felt by some doctors, nurses and pharmacists and last year my Department circulated to hospital pharmacists a report on certain pharmaceutical aspects. The need for further guidance is under consideration although ultimately decisions on clinical practice are matters for the three professions.

    Dental Care

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many studies are currently being made by his Department on the conservation of teeth and preventive dental care.

    None directly, but my Department is sponsoring several research projects that could lead to the development of improved methods of treating and preventing dental caries.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many interdepartmental meetings have been held in each of the last three years with the Department of Education and Science with a view to improving dental health care in schools; and what additional policies and what new initiatives for the treatment and prevention of dental decay in schoolchildren have resulted from them.

    The two Departments are in constant consultation on the dental care of children. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science and I are advised by a jointly-appointed chief dental officer and supporting professional staff. Both Departments are represented on a committee which is meeting at about monthly intervals and is examining, among other matters, means of maintaining a high standard of dental care for school children in the context of a reorganised National Health Service.With my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales, and in consultation with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, I am commissioning a survey of the dental health of schoolchildren aged 5 to 15. This is in an advanced stage of planning and will provide an up-to-date assessment of the state of children's dental health and the extent to which their need for treatment is being met.The improvement of dental services for children and young people is one of the principal matters which the Working Party on the Dental Services has been asked to consider.

    Dentists And Auxiliaries

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is now taking to improve the availability of dentists and dental auxiliaries in areas where there is a shortage.

    Although the numbers of dentists and ancillary dental workers continue to increase, I am concerned that their distribution is uneven and have asked the Working Party on Dental Services to consider and recommend ways and means of resolving the problem.

    Handicapped Married Couples (Accommodation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to advise local authorities on the allocation and building of premises suitable for physically handicapped married couples.

    Guidance issued by my Department in 1965 on the provision and design of residential homes for the physically handicapped contains advice on the provision of double rooms for married couples. My officers keep this in mind when considering local authorities' plans for new homes and we do not consider any further guidance on the principle is needed at the present time.Advice in relation to the provision of housing is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment.

    General Practitioner Trainers

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why he has agreed to give an increase of 254 per cent. to those general medical practitioners who have trainee assistants by raising the annual payments from £240 to £850.

    The increased payment to general practitioner trainers forms part of a series of inter-related changes in fees and allowances recommended by the Review Body on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration which, taken together, are designed to increase the intended average net remuneration of general medical practitioners by 7½ per cent. It was considered that, in view of the accepted need to bring about an immediate expansion of vocational training in general practice, a substantial increase was desirable in the trainers' allowance, which hitherto has only been in the nature of honorariums.

    Drug Prices

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why he has endorsed the increase of drug prices, in many cases reaching 50 per cent., contained in the trade price list, issued July, 1972, sent to him by the hon. Member for Willesden, West; if these increases are within the arrangements of the voluntary price regulation scheme; if the form of the covering letter, which by implication makes his department partly responsible for the increases, has his approval; and if he will make a statement.

    The price increases of National Health Service medicines contained in the trade price list sent to me by the hon. Member were agreed by the Department under the Voluntary Price Regulation scheme because the financial information supplied showed that they were justified. The draft of the covering letter was not referred to the Department, but I see no reason why the company should not allude to the negotiations which took place. The average increase on National Health Service turnover was less than 5 per cent. The highest individual increase was 9·5 per cent. and no increase was made on one major product.

    Pensioners

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the number of State retirement pensioners, plus the total sum paid out during the financial year 1971–72, together with the number and total sum paid out to those pensioners who were in receipt of social security benefits.

    At 31st December, 1971, 7,650,000 people were in receipt of retirement pensions, of whom 1,805,000 were in receipt of supplementary pensions. The cost in 1971–72 is estimated to be of the order of £2,066 million for retirement pensions and £260 million for supplementary pensions.

    District General Hospital (Nuneaton)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the new district general hospital in Nuneaton will be completed; and whether he will make a statement about its progress.

    It is too early to forecast a completion date. The Birmingham Regional Hospital Board intends to complete the planning by 1974–75.

    South Ockendon Hospital (Treatment Of Patients)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a chronological sequence of time and dates when his Department were first requested to have in inquiry into the alleged ill-treatment of patients at South Ockendon Hospital; why, in the case of the spastic son of a West Ham storekeeper, details of which have been supplied to him, it has taken seven years for this investigation to be made; and whether he will make a statement.

    All such complaints made to my Department have been looked into through normal administrative channels. I believe that my predecessor sent the hon. Member in 1969 a full reply on the complaints about the individual case he mentions. I cannot accept the apparent implication in the Question that a formal inquiry should be the standard procedure for investigating such complaints. The present committee of inquiry was set up by me after the hospital management committee had requested that complaints which it had started to investigate should be referred to a wider inquiry.

    Young Chronic Sick Persons (Furness And Lonsdale)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what arrangements he is making for the co-ordination between the Manchester and Newcastle Hospital Boards for provision of units for the young chronic sick whose homes are in Furness and North Lonsdale, in view of the proposed alterations in boundaries of the two boards.

    No changes are proposed in the boundaries of the Manchester and Newcastle Regional Hospital Boards. When the reorganisation of the National Health Service comes into effect, it will be for the new authorities to work together in providing health services, as the present authorities do; the new boundaries will not be barriers to the movement of patients.

    Hearing Normalcy

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what tests his Department employs for measur- ing hearing normalcy; and if a scale of normal hearing on age basis has been produced.

    My Department does not employ such tests, but I am advised that simple tests usually include conversational voice and forced whisper tests at various distances and pure tone audiometry. These are often supplemented by speech audiometry using phonetically balanced word lists and sentences at different levels of amplification. From these audiometric tests research workers have developed average score lists for speech discrimination in relation to age. I understand that the results of research work showing the average hearing loss with age are available to expert workers in the field.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    European Economic Community

    55.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will announce the arrangements for cereals which will apply following entry into the European Economic Community, including details of the compensating amounts payable, the location of intervention controls and the levels of intervention prices.

    As my right hon. Friend informed the House on 22nd June, he expects to be able to make an announcement by the end of this month.—[Vol. 839, c. 776.]

    Sausages

    56.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will ask the Foods Standards Committee to consider the desirability of requiring sausages sold to catering establishments to contain the same percentage of meat as is required for sausages on sale to the public.

    The exemption of sales to caterers from the compositional standards provisions of the regulations applying to meat products is intended to allow the caterer freedom in the preparation of the meals supplied to his customers although the meals themselves must comply with the standards. The need to continue to include sausages within the scope of this exemption will be reviewed.

    Land Drainage (Consultative Document)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to publish the consultative document on land drainage in relation to water reorganisation.

    I hope soon to be able to make an announcement on the future organisation of land drainage. A consultative paper will follow thereafter.

    Orchards (Grubbing-Up)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food to what extent action has commenced to implement the Common Market rulings that British apple orchards must be grubbed-up; how far this has proceeded; when he expects it to be concluded; and when he expects to announce the agreed terms of compensation to the orchard owners.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether the costs of grubbing-up orchards were included in the Government's original estimates for entry into the European Economic Community.

    National Finance

    Married Couples (Separate Taxation)

    57.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many married couples have applied for separate taxation of the wife's earnings in accordance with the provisions of the Finance Act, 1971, to the latest convenient date.

    Value Added Tax

    58.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is yet in a position to state how, on the introduction of value added tax, the Government will treat stocks of wines, spirits and tobacco in the hands of suppliers which will already have borne duties.

    No. I would refer my hon. Friend to what my right hon. Friend said in his Budget Statement and to the White Paper on Value Added Tax (Cmnd. 4929).

    59.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether goods made or assembled by disabled people in sheltered workshops, diversionary centres or by home craftwork schemes are exempt from value added tax.

    I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply given by my hon. Friend the Minister of State in the debate on this subject in the Committee stage on the Finance Bill on 16th May.

    Staff Salaries (Boyle Report Proposals)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will detail the list of the 32 of his staff who will receive increases in their salaries under the Boyle Report; what their salaries are at present; and what they will be under the Boyle proposals.

    There is one Permanent Secretary in the Treasury who will have his salary increased from £15,000 to £16,750; seven Deputy Secretaries—and equivalents—who will have their salaries increased from £9,000 to £10,500; and 20 Under-Secretaries who will have their salaries increased from £6,750 to £8,250. In addition there are four staff on intermediate salary rates which will be increased by comparable amounts.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer which countries in the European Economic Community distinguish between the construction process and the professional services allied to it in applying different rates of the value added tax.

    The answer depends on the interpretation of the laws of the individual EEC countries: but my understanding is that France, Germany and Luxembourg make such a distinction and Belgium and the Netherlands do not.

    Income And Taxation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to what extent workers in receipt of the average family income of £30·99 benefited from his proposals on income tax reductions.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a detailed statement giving the net salary take-home pay, after payment of income tax and surtax, for a man, with wife, on a gross salary of £20,000 per annum for the financial year 1971–72; and what amount of saving in tax and surtax resulted from the annual Budget for this year compared with the three previous years.

    £8,587 after deducting income tax for 1971–72 and surtax for 1970–71 payable in 1971–72. The reduction compared with1968–69, 1969–70 and 1970–71 was £1,141, £1,141 and £1,134, respectively.

    Sterling Reserves

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, since under the terms of the Basle Agreement of 1968 Her Majesty's Government are obliged to top up the sterling value of the bulk of the reserves held in London by overseas sterling area countries if this falls below $2–40, what is the cost to date of the fall in the value of the £ by 6·3 per cent. of its former value.

    Mr Dan Smith, Mr George Pottinger And Mr John Poulson

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will list, for the longest and most convenient stated period of time, the amounts of public funds paid to Mr. Dan Smith and Mr. George Pottinger; for what purposes they were paid; and whether during this period any such moneys were paid to Mr. John Poulson.

    The information is not readily available. The only payments to Mr. Pottinger have been in respect of salary and allowances appropriate for the various posts he has held in or on secondment from the public service.

    European Currencies

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why he will not support the Belgian and Dutch Governments in their efforts to arrange a joint floating of all the currencies of the countries of the European Economic Community.

    £ Sterling

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects to be able to announce to what extent he estimates the floating of the £ sterling will, in general, increase the costs of all British imports, and food imports in particular; and to what extent he expects these increases will raise the cost of living.

    Past experience shows that it is extremely difficult to assess the effect on import prices and the cost of living of exchange rate changes, and it will be a considerable time before a reliable estimate can be made.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is now the Government's policy regarding the need to end the floating of the £ sterling and return to a fixed parity before Great Britain can enter the Common Market.

    I have nothing to add to what my right hon. Friend told the House on 29th June.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, taking the internal purchasing power of the £ sterling, as published by the Central Statistical Office, as 100 at 1st May, 1970, what was the corresponding figure at 30th April, 1972.

    Taking the internal purchasing power of the £ sterling to be l00p in May, 1970, its value in May, 1972, is estimated at 87p.This estimate is based on changes in the Consumer Price Index for calendar years adjusted by movements in the General Index of Retail Prices for the months at the beginning and end of the period. Prices were recorded on 19th May, 1970, and 16th May, 1972.

    Children's Footwear

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now announce the membership of the committee which is to consider the relationship between the price of children's footwear and the incidence of foot abnormality and other matters.

    Yes. The appointment of Mrs. AlisonMunro to be chairman of the committee has already been announced. I am now glad to be able to announce that the following have accepted invitations to become members:Professor C. D. Harbury.Mr. E. W. Howlett, Managing Director, Norvic Children's Shoes Limited.Mrs. P. H. Mellors.Colonel G. W. Noakes, OBE, TD, JP, Managing Director, William Timpson Limited.Mr. W. Sayle-Creer, MB, ChB, Mch, Orth, FRCS, LRCP.Mr. H. F. Christopherson, Commissioner of Customs and Excise.The Secretary will be Mr. P. Jefferson Smith of HM Customs and Excise.

    Employment

    Industrial Safety

    60.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will seek to call a national conference of employers, trade unions, organisations concerned with safety, and the legal and medical professions, in order to encourage greater attention to the need for industrial safety.

    :The forthcoming publications of the Robens Report on Safety and Health will provide the opportunity for wide ranging public debate on this matter. My right hon. Friend will bear the particular suggestion in mind.

    Catering Profession (Training)

    61.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what training schemes and facilities are available to encourage residents of the

    197219711968
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    United Kingdom to enter the catering profession; and whether he will seek to extend these facilities, in view of the need to lessen the use of foreign labour and reduce the number of unemployed.

    The main responsibility for training lies with the industry and the Hotel and Catering Industry Training Board. In order to meet the training needs of individuals the Government are rapidly expanding the facilities for courses in Hotel and Catering occupations available under the Vocational Training Scheme and are aiming at a throughput of over 1,000 trainees in 1973. Many courses in catering are also available in Colleges of Further Education.

    Rio Tinto Zinc Smelter (Avonmouth)

    62.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment on what date he will publish the report of the special inquiry, under the chairmanship of Sir Brian Windeyer, into the circumstances which gave rise to the cases of lead poisoning at the Rio Tinto Zinc smelter at Avonmouth.

    As my right hon. Friend announced on 29th June in a written reply to my hon. Friend the member for Bristol, North West, he hopes to publish the Report before the end of this month.—[Vol. 839, c. 409.]

    Caerphilly And Gelligaer

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the numbers of job vacancies for boys and girls, respectively, up to 18 years of age notified to the Caerphilly and Gelligaer youth employment bureau in 1968, 1971 and to date in 1972.

    Cumulative totals of vacancies notified are not available. The following table gives the number of noitified vacancies remaining unfilled in the Caerphilly careers office area on the count dates in June and October of the years in question:

    63.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he is taking to find employment for young people up to 18 years of age in the Caerphilly and Gelligaer youth employment area of Glamorgan; and if he will make a statement.

    Careers officers are doing all they can to assist young people to find jobs. Employment opportunities should improve as the Government's economic measures take effect. The particular problem of job opportunities for the less well qualified is

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    Equal Pay

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will take steps to ensure that employers do not avoid the full impact of the Equal Pay Act by grading posts in such a way that women's jobs receive lower grades and therefore lower pay.

    My right hon. Friend has at present no evidence that employers generally are seeking to evade the Act in this way. The report of the Office of Manpower Economics, to be published shortly, should indicate if there is a need for any action.

    Western Isles

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the rate for notified vacancies to people registered as wholly unemployed in the Western Isles at the latest available date.

    In the Oban employment exchange area, part of which is in the Western Isles, and in the Stornoway area, at June, 1972, there were 9·4 notified vacancies to every 100 people registered as wholly unemployed. The figure relates only to notified vacancies remaining unfilled and does not purport to measure the total unsatisfied demand for labour.

    Birmingham

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what measures to alleviate the position of unemployment among young people in Birmingham have currently being studied by the National Youth Employment Council.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the numbers of boys and girls, respectively, up to 18 years of age who were unemployed in the Caerphilly and Gelligaer youth employment areas of Glamorgan in October, 1968, October, 1971 and at the nearest convenient date.

    The information is as follows:been taken by his Department; and what further measures he plans to take.

    Training opportunities have been made available to young people in the area under both the 1971–72 Industrial Training Board Awards Scheme and the Vocational Training Scheme. Further training measures submitted by the Birmingham Education Committee are under consideration.

    Industrial Training

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations he has received from the Trades Union Congress and Confederation of British Industry regarding the development of industrial training in this country; if he will place in the OFFICIAL REPORT their observations on incentives for training; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend has received memoranda from the Confederation of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress concerning various aspects of the Government's proposals for industrial training. We have also discussed these representations with the two bodies. I give below extracts from the memoranda of the two organisations, setting out their views on incentives for training. My right hon. Friend is currently considering the various opinions which have been expressed on our proposals, and he hopes to announce conclusions on the main issues before the House rises for the Summer Recess.

    CBI: "In its review of the new proposals a great deal of comment has reached the CBI. Most of this has concerned the future of Industrial Training Boards. Support for the ending of the present levy/grant systems has been widespread although a significant amount of comment has suggested that to stop them simultaneously and abruptly in all industries may be ill-judged.
    Concern has been expresed in many quarters about the adequacy of the NTA's estimated budget of £25 to £40 million. The CBI shares this concern, even if the selective grants to be made by the agency are to be directed mainly to the encouragement of training over and above firms' individual needs in areas where there are actual or anticipated shortages. The mechanics of such an arrangement would be difficult and, when combined with the other fields in which continued financial support would be required, there will not be enough money within the proposed budget to enable effective grants to be given. These other fields will have to be negotiated between ITB's and the NTA, but they should include continued support for existing long-term training grant commitments; the establishment and support of group training schemes; first-year apprentice and technician training; and a number of ITB training facilities which are valued by their industries. There is also an urgent need (as we have pointed out in our recent statement—"Supply and Demand in Higher Education") to give substantial financial support to encourage the provision of more industrial training places for sandwich course students."
    TUC: "No scheme is acceptable which reduces the importance of levy/grant and at the same time does not provide for a means of inspection of the volume of training and the level of standards adopted by firms in the industry. In any scheme of the latter type, there should be provision for financial penalties to be imposed on employers who do not fulfil their training responsibilities. This does not preclude further development of Board's advisory services nor does it mean that ways should not be found of refining levy/grant schemes or exploring other financial mechanisms.
    In the longer term, there is a case for introducing a payroll tax on all employers, large and small, from which they could seek some relief if they could show on their tax return that they had fulfilled their training responsibilities. This is being examined further by the General Council particularly in the context of the TUC's proposed National Manpower Board. Basically, however, the principle that employers must be prepared to make a substantial contribution to training to meet their needs is supported by the General Council and from this perspective, the Government's intention to end levy/grant schemes after 1972–73 and to replace them with a very limited system of selective grants from public funds is retrogressive."

    North Staffordshire

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many men are now unemployed in North Staffordshire; and how this compares with 1970 and 1971;(2) how many women are unemployed in North Staffordshire; and how this compares with 1970 and 1971.

    Following is the information:

    NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED IN THE NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE SUB-DIVISION OF THE WEST MIDLANDS REGION
    MalesFemales
    June, 19725,582855
    June, 19715,016619
    June, 19704,121627

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many school leavers he expects to be seeking work in North Staffordshire at the end of the summer term.

    About 3,800 young people are expected to leave school for employment at the end of this summer term in North Staffordshire.

    Factory Inspectorate

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the Factory Inspectorate is now up to strength; and if he will publish its establishment target and its present numbers.

    The authorised cadre of the Factory Inspectorate is 742 and on 1st July there were 709 factory inspectors in post. It is expected that normal recruitment action will fill most of these vacancies in the next few months.

    Offers Of Suitable Employment

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what constitutes an offer of suitable employment as this phrase is used by his Department; and if he is satisfied that the figure of 16,221 cases last year of those refusing offers of suitable employment who were disqualified from receiving credits of national insurance contributions and benefits, does not understate the real position, in the light of the way the words, suitable employment, are interpreted.

    Suitable employment is normally interpreted as employment in an occupation appropriate to the registrant's qualifications, experience, knowledge and personal qualities. This interpretation is based on case law established by the independent statutory authorities appointed to determine unemployment benefit claims. I am satisfied that the arrangements for referring refusals of suitable employment to the statutory authorities are working sensibly.

    National Minimum Wage

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, now that it has been shown that for the first time the average cost of keeping a family has risen above the average family income, whether he will take action to assist those on lower incomes, if need be by a National Minimum Wage Bill, to ensure that all families receive the national average of £30·99 per week, the present average cost for keeping a family.

    Average weekly household income in 1971 after deducting income tax and national insurance contribution was £32·14 compared with average weekly expenditure of private households of £30·99. We have introduced a number of measures such as family income supplements and substantial increases in tax allowances which are more effective means of increasing the incomes of low-paid workers in relation to family circumstances than a statutory national minimum wage.

    Fine Tubes, Plymouth (Industrial Dispute)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will now take action, along the lines recommended by the official committee of inquiry, to end the industrial dispute at Fine Tubes, Plymouth.

    My right hon. Friend regrets that his attempts to secure a settlement on these lines have not been successful. I understand that company and union representatives discussed the matter last week but were unable to reach agreement. My Department is ready to provide further assistance at any time it can usefully do so.

    Cost Of Living

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is aware that, notwithstanding the Government's various actions to control wages, prices, profits and inflation, the Department of Employment's Report dated 29th June, shows that it costs an average family £30·99 per week to live, and that even with wage and salary increases during the last year the average wage level is below this figure; and whether he will call a conference to decide how this situation can be changed.

    Average weekly household income in 1971 after deducting income tax and national insurance contributions was £2·15 higher than the average weekly expenditure of private households. My right hon. Friend does not propose to call a conference on this matter.

    Remploy (Disabled Persons' Aids)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proportion of Government expenditure on contracts for producing aids for the disabled is placed through Remploy Limited.

    I have been asked to reply.Direct Government expenditure on contracts for producing aids for the disabled was approximately £19 million in 1971 not including contracts for structural adaptations. Equipment and services which Remploy Limited was in a position to provide accounted for £1,114,000 or nearly 6 per cent.

    Industrial Relations Court And Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if it is proposed that the National Industrial Relations Court and the Commission on Industrial Relations will publish periodic reports on their work.

    Under Section 123 of the Industrial Relations Act the Commission on Industrial Relations is required to make an annual report to me on its activities. These reports, which are to be made as soon as practicable after the end of each calendar year, must be published and laid before Parliament. They must include a general review of the development of collective bargaining in the United Kingdom during the year and draw attention to any particular problems in this field which appear to the commission to be of special importance.There is no similar requirement in the case of the National Industrial Relations Court. It is not the practice for courts to publish reports on their work, but statistical information about the work of the NIRC will be included in the Civil Judicial Statistics issued annually by my noble and learned Friend the Lord Chancellor.

    Stonemasons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the number of stonemasons in employment in 1961, 1966 and 1971, respectively.

    I have been asked to reply.The estimated numbers in employment in the occupation group which includes stonemasons, stone cutters and slate workers at the time of the 1961 and 1966 censuses were 17,790 and 19,270, respectively. The comparable figure from the 1971 census is not yet available.

    Environment

    Elderly Persons (Accommodation)

    64.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will undertake a study of the number of old people whose varied accommodation needs are met by local authority housing services in order to assist in the preparation of advice to local authorities on this matter.

    Many studies have already been carried out into the housing of elderly people and advice given to local authorities in this field. More up to date information about such housing is coming in, notably from the 1971 Census. This will help us to assess what more needs to bedone.

    A2 (Dartford Diverson)

    asked the Secretary for the Environment what progress has been made on remedial work to the A2 Dart-ford diversion, with a view to reducing traffic noise; and if he will make a statement.

    This was completed about the end of April and has been successful in eliminating the high-pitched tyre noise.

    National Trust Wardens, Worksop (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make an investigation into the pay and hours of work of wardens employed by the National Trust in Clumber Park, Worksop, seven-eighths of whose pay is met by the Countryside Commission; whether he will pay them overtime rates and fix a standard hourly working week; and, in view of the fact that their last pay award was in 1970, whether he will order the 1973 review to be brought forward.

    No. Although the cost of the warden service at Clumber Park is grant-aided at the rate of 75 per cent. under the Countryside Act, 1968, the conditions of service of the wardens are the responsibility of the management committee, not of my right hon. Friend or the Countryside Commission.

    Conveyancing (Metrication)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends to take steps to ensure that houses and other land and property will be conveyed on the metric units of measurement; and what estimate he has made of the costs involved in such a change.

    I expect the change to the use of metric units of measurement in conveyancing of houses, land and property to follow generally the programme for the change to metric in industry and some conveyancing is already being done in metric. No separate estimate of costs can be given but any additional costs on this account would be marginal.

    Alkali Inspectorate

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the financial cost of the Alkali Inspectorate to the Exchequer.

    The annual cost is currently estimated at approximately £250,600 which I consider to be good value for money.

    Rubbish Tips (Survey)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects the survey of rubbish tips to be complete, and whether it will cover dumps operated by commercial waste disposal contractors.

    By 31st March, 1973. The survey is to cover both local authority and commercial tips.

    A37 (New Route)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made in determining which of the five alternative routes are the most suitable for the new A37; and if he will make a statement.

    Discussions are continuing with the county councils concerned on proposals for a new route for the A3.

    Motorways

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the percentage relationship to the previous year in the number of miles of motorway completed in Great Britain in each year from 1960 to 1971.

    Following are the mileages of motorway newly opened to traffic in each year:

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    196249
    196395
    196414
    196576
    196663
    1967106
    196849
    196956
    1970114
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    I see no value in expressing figures of this type as percentage relationships.

    Water Resources And Inland Waterways

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to lay before the House his proposals for water resources and the inland waterways.

    Consultation papers containing these proposals will be published shortly.

    Housing Finance Bill (Rents)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what decisions he has taken on proposals submitted to him by local authorities in connection with Clause 63(4) of the Housing Finance Bill regarding rent increases in October, 1972; and if he will circulate in the OFFICIAL REPORT the replies which he has given to such proposals.

    The Department wrote on 5th July to the following three authorities giving them an informal indication about the likelihood of a direction under Clause 62(4) being given on the coming into force of the Bill.Birmingham CBC.Newcastle upon Tyne CBC.Hammersmith LB.The texts of the Department's informal letters are as follows:

    Letter To The Director Of Housing, Birmingham

    Thank you for your further letter of 21st June and the information it contained. I was also grateful that you and Mr. Davis were able to come on 29th June to give us further particulars. As a result I am now able to give you the indication, requested in your letter of 3 May, as to whether on the coming into force of the Bill a direction is likely to be issued under what is now Clause 62(4) of the Housing Finance Bill in respect of the increase towards fair rents in October, 1972 which your Council would be required to make under Part VI of the Bill. (All references in this letter to a weekly rent are based on a 52 week rent year.)

    In your letter and during our talk you explained that, of the factors you have taken into account in estimating fair rents for your Council's dwellings, you attached only a marginal significance to any differences in security of tenure between private and council tenants and in the procedures for determining fair rents, and to the level of earnings of manual workers in the area. You made it clear that the last factor was used only to determine a ceiling for average fair rents. I note that on the specific basis on which you have used this factor (and there is obviously doubt as to whether this specific basis is the most appropriate), the application of this factor would lead to the general conclusion that the average fair rent of council dwellings in Birmingham at the beginning of 1972 should not have exceeded about £4 a week, i.e. £1 a week above the current average unrebated rent charged by your Council.

    Thus the criteria which you have principally taken into account are the return on the capital value of your dwellings in the light of recent sales of your older council houses, the 1973 Gross Values for your council houses, the statistical evidence of registered rents throughout the country as ratios of 1963 Gross Values, and a comparison with the rents of certain private dwellings which you felt to be comparable which have recently been registered in Birmingham. Your application of these criteria led you to estimate the fair rent for the most typical dwellings in the largest classes of pre-war dwellings at 1·75 times the 1963 Gross Value, for the most typical dwellings in the two largest classes of early post-war dwellings at 1·85 and 2·00 times the 1963 Gross Value, and for the most typical dwellings in the two largest classes of late post-war dwellings at 2·00 and 2·25 times the 1963 Gross Value.

    Of these criteria we are bound to attach particular important to the comparability with private registered rents in the Birmingham area, as the Courts (e.g. in the case of Tormes v Landau) have regarded this criterion as the best and most appropriate. On the basis of that criterion it seems to us that the fair rents of your council's dwellings are likely to reflect ratios of 1963 Gross Value which are somewhat higher than you have thought likely. You took into account the registered rents of 20 private dwellings which you felt to be comparable with a typical unmodernised pre-war 3 bedroom non-parlour house owned by the council. You explained that the dwellings in question are considerably larger than such a typical council house and differ from it in their amenities, but that the rents registered for these dwellings showed an average ratio of rent to 1963 Gross Values of 1·80. It seems to us that greater significance attaches to the fact that of the 1,200 or so fair rents registered for houses in the Birmingham registration area in 1971, about 300 registrations for houses previously subject to rent regulation showed an average rent: 1963 GV ratio of 2·05, about 200 registrations of houses previously subject to rent control but improved to the required standard showed as average rent: 1963 GV ratio of 2·22, and about 700 registrations of houses previously subject to rent control but already up to the required standard showed an average rent: 1963 ratio of 2·26.

    Nevertheless it appears to us that, if no direction were given under clause 62(4) it is likely that the increase towards fair rents of £1 a week per qualifying dwelling which your council would be required to make in the year 1972–73 would result in the rents of more than 2 per cent of your council's qualifying dwellings being substantially above the fair rents for those dwellings and that the amount of that increase towards fair rents (which is of course an average amount) should be less than £1 per week, so as to enable your council to distribute or apportion the increase within the maximum of £1 per week for any individual dwelling in such a way as to avoid the likelihood of such a result.

    Accordingly, the Secretary of State would be willing, when the Bill is in force, to give a direction under clause 62(4) that your council's increase towards fair rents in the year 1972–73 should be 65p per week. That direction will not affect the fair rents to be deter- mined for your council's HRA dwellings. The determination of fair rents is not a matter for the Secretary of State but is the responsibility of the housing authority and the rent scrutiny board in accordance with Part V of the Bill. Nor will the direction relate to the amount of any increase towards fair rents for the Council's qualifying dwellings in 1973–74 or subsequent years.

    Letter To The Principal City Officer, Newcastle

    Thank you for your letter of 12th June together with supplementary information in support of your request for an indication of whether a direction is likely to be issued in due course under what is now Clause 62(4) of the Housing Finance Bill in respect of the increase towards fair rents in October, 1972 which your council would be required to make under Part VI of the Bill.

    It is noted that your Council have made a preliminary assessment of the fair rent of all council dwellings in the light of the age, type, general condition, character, location and size of the dwellings and that in addition the Council compared their assessments with estimates made by the Rent Officer. While we would not necessarily agree with all the estimates made in your letter, it does appear to us, having considered the information provided by your Council, that, if no direction were given under Clause 62(4), it is likely that the increase towards fair rents of £1 per week for each qualifying dwelling which your Council would be required to make in the year 1972–73 would result in the rents of more than 2 per cent, of those dwellings being substantially above the fair rents for those dwellings. To avoid the likelihood of this result it would appear that the amount of that increase towards fair rents (which is an average amount) should be less than £1 per week, so as to enable your Council to distribute or apportion the increase as may be necessary within the maximum of £1 per week for any individual dwelling permitted under the Bill.

    Accordingly, the Secretary of State would be willing, when the Bill is in force, to give a direction under Clause 62(4) that your Council's increase towards fair rents in the year 1972–73 should be 35p per week. That direction will not affect the fair rents to be determined for your Council's Housing Revenue Account dwellings. The determination of fair rents is not a matter for the Secretary of State but is the responsibility of the housing authority and the rent scrutiny board in accordance with Part V of the Bill. Nor will the direction relate to the amount of any increase towards fair rents for the Council's qualifying dwellings in 1973–74, or subsequent years

    Letter To The Borough Treasurer, Hammersmith

    Thank you for your letter of 19th June asking whether an indication could be given that a direction is likely to be issued in due course under what is now Clause 62(4) of the Housing Finance Bill in respect of the increase towards fair rents in October, 1972 which your authority would be required to make under Part VI of the Bill.

    We understand from a telephone conversation with you that the Council's own Valuation Department assessed the fair rents and took into account the registered rents of comparable private properties in the area. In addition, estimates of the likely fair rent for certain sample dwellings were obtained by the Council from the Rent Officer.

    While we would not necessarily agree with all the estimates in your letter, it does appear to us, having considered the information provided by the Council that, if no direction were given under Clause 62(4), it is likely that the increase towards fair rents of£1 per week for each qualifying dwelling which your Council would be required to make in the year 1972–73 would result in the rents of more than 2 per cent. of those dwellings being substantially above their fair rents. Thus it seems that, to avoid the likelihood of such a result, the amount of that increase towards fair rents (which is an average amount) should be less than £1 per week, so as to enable your Council to distribute or apportion the increase as may be necessary within the maximum of £1 per week for any individual dwelling permitted by the Bill.

    Accordingly, I am writing to inform you that the Secretary of State would be willing, when the Bill is in force, to give a direction under Clause 62(4) that your Council's increase towards fair rents in the year 1972–73 should be 75p per week. That direction will not affect the fair rents to be determined for your Council's Housing Revenue Account dwellings. The determination of fair rents is not a matter for the Secretary of State but is the responsibility of the housing authority and the rent scrutiny board in accordance with Part V of the Bill. Nor will the direction relate to the amount of any increase towards fair rents for the Council's qualifying dwellings in 1973–74, or subsequent years.

    House Of Commons

    Members (Financial Interests)

    65.

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will now introduce legislation requiring Members of this House to declare any external interests in which they are financially concerned for publication in a register at the beginning of each Session and recording in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

    As I said on this matter in the House last Thursday in answer to the right hon. Member for Devon, North (Mr. Thorpe), I should be willing to look again at this idea, which was rejected by the Select Committee on Members' Interests, if this was the wish of the House.—[Vol. 840, c. 757.]

    Lobbies (Foreign Interests)

    66.

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will require lobbies acting on behalf of foreign interests in relation to parliamentary proceedings to declare their interest in an official register to be published in the OFFICIAL REPORT at the beginning of each parliamentary Session.

    I am not satisfied that any such register is practicable for similar reasons which led the Select Committee on Members' Interests to reject the proposal for a register in that field—namely, the problems of definition and enforcement.

    Telephones

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will state the arrangements that are being made for the changeover to the automatic telephone switchboard.

    The changeover to the new automatic telephone switchboard will take place on the weekend of Saturday, 12th August, and Sunday, 13th August. Owing to the amount of engineering work involved, it will be necessary to close the Palace of Westminster to the public on the Saturday. There will be no telephone service, except for fire and emergency calls, between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m. on Saturday, 12th August. The changeover is expected to be completed and ready for normal operating from Monday, 14th August, onwards.

    asked the Lord President of the Council if he will arrange for an exhibition to be held of the new telephone equipment for Members of Parliament.

    Yes. An exhibition will be held in the Upper Waiting Hall from 24th July. The exhibition will remain on site until the first week that Parliament reassembles in the autumn, and will be staffed by the Post Office on all sitting days.

    Hong Kong (Prime Minister's Visit)

    Q6.

    asked the Prime Minister if, when he visits Hong Kong officially in September, he will have the opportunity of discussing the textile industry with all interested parties.

    As I told the hon. Gentleman in reply to his Question on 4th July I hope to meet a cross-section of all shades of local opinion, but as yet no detailed programme has been arranged. It would be natural for the subject of the textile industry to be raised.—[Vol. 840, c. 205–6.]

    Land Prices (Chancellor's Broadcast)

    Q7.

    asked the Prime Minister whether the broadcast statement on land prices by the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 19th June represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Oldham, West (Mr. Meacher) on 4th July.—[Vol. 840, c. 241–2.]

    European Economic Community

    Q8.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a further statement on the preparations for the summit meeting of European Economic Community countries in October.

    Preparations for the summit, which are in the hands of Foreign Ministers, are making good progress.

    asked the Prime Minister whether, during the preparations for the forthcoming summit meeting in Europe, he will seek an assurance from the French President that France will ratify the Treaty of Accession for Great Britain's entry into the Common Market, before the commencement of these summit talks.

    Ratification of the Treaty of Accession is a matter for each of the States concerned. In a number of them, including France, the constitutional procedures are already well advanced.

    Cbi And Tuc (Discussions)

    Q9.

    asked the Prime Minister whether in his future official meetings with the Confederation of British Industry and the Trades Union Congress, he will initiate discussions about voluntary restraint of prices, profits and incomes with a view to promoting stabilsation of the economy.

    In my talks with the CBI and the TUC I have stressed the importance both of the CBI's voluntary price restraint scheme and of the need for the unions to make their contribution. At my recent meeting I invited both the TUC and the CBI to take part with the Government in further discussions on a number of urgent current issues affecting industrial relations and the national economy. The CBI has already accepted this invitation; and I very much hope that the TUC will do so shortly.

    Q13.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his most recent discussions with the Trades Union Congress and the Confederation of British Industry concerning the operation of the Industrial Relations Act.

    I had useful and ranging discussions with the TUC on 4th July and with the CBI yesterday. I made it clear to the TUC that there was no question of repealing the Act but that we were prepared to discuss with it after the Act had been fully operated for an appropriate period the ways in which it believed the Act was damaging either to its own interests or to the national interest.

    Federal German Chancellor

    Q10.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will seek an official meeting with the Federal German Chancellor.

    I had full discussions with the German Chancellor here in London last April but I have no plans at present for a further official meeting with Herr Brandt before the summit conference.

    Ealing

    Q11.

    asked the Prime Minister how many official visits he has made to the London Borough of Ealing since taking office.

    I have not yet made an official visit to the London Borough of Ealing.

    Motor Cars (Contruction Regulations)

    Q12.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied with the co-ordination between the Department of the Environment and the Department of Trade and Industry in considering car construction regulations in the light of the effect of United States and other exhaust emission control regulations on exports of British cars; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. The Departments co-operate closely on motor vehicle safety and environmental standards.

    Nationalised Industries (Salary Increases)

    Q14.

    asked the Prime Minister what consultation he held with trade union representatives of workers employed in nationalised industries before he agreed to the salary increases to be paid to the heads of those industries.

    None. These increases were recommended by the inde- pendent Review Body in accordance with procedures announced in 1970.

    Students (Accommodation)

    Q15.

    asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the co-ordination between the Department of Education and Science and the Department of the Environment on the planning of suitable accommodation for the number of students who may be expected in universities and colleges in 1973 and thereafter; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. Student accommodation is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, since it is an essential factor in the planning of the higher education system. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment has an interest wherever issues affecting the general housing situation arise.The number of students in residence in the universities has grown from 64,000 in 1966–67 to 86,750 in 1970–71 and will, I hope, reach about 120,000 by 1974–75. My right hon. Friend is now considering the University Grants Committee's confidential advice on the general development of the universities in the 1972–77 quinquennium and on the provision of further residential accommodation. I understand that the Vice-Chancellors' Committee has asked the universities to consider the possibility of a change in the proportion of students living at home. In the polytechnics the number of residential places is expected to rise from around5,000 in 1971 to almost double that number in 1975, and local education authorities have submitted proposals for projects likely to start in 1974–75.

    Economic Policy (Minister's Speech)

    Q16.

    asked the Prime Minister if the public speech made by the Secretary of State for Defence in London on 21st June on economic policy represented the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    Social Security Payments (Purchasing Power)

    Q17.

    asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the co-ordination between the Departments of Employment and Health and Social Security concerning study of the purchasing power of social security payments; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. The increase in pensions and related benefits coming into effect this autumn will be more than adequate to cover any likely increases in prices since the last pension increases in September, 1971.

    Shah Of Iran (Official Discussions)

    Q18.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will make a statement on his official talks with the Shah of Iran.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol, North-East (Mr. Adley) on 6th July.—[Vol. 840, c. 743–4.]

    Mr W G Pottinger

    Q19.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will cause an independent inquiry to be made into how and why Mr. W. G. Pottinger, a high-ranking civil servant now in the Scottish Office, received £21,000 from Mr. John Poulson, a private businessman, whilst he was still in the public service.

    There is at present nothing to add to the reply of my right hon. Friend the Leader of the House to the right hon. Gentleman the Member for Devon, North (Mr. Thorpe) during business questions on 6th July.—[Vol. 840, c. 757.]

    Prime Minister Of France

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will seek a meeting with the new Prime Minister of France, M. Messmer.

    I hope to have the opportunity to meet M. Messmer before long but I have at present no plans to do so.

    Atlantic Alliance

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will seek an early opportunity of meeting the President of the United States of America to discuss the strengthening of the Atlantic Alliance and the future of the special relationships between Great Britain and the United States of America following Great Britain's possible entry into the Common Market.

    I have at present no plans to meet the President. I discussed these questions with the President in Bermuda last December and since then we have had continuing exchanges at all levels with the United States Administration, dealing with all aspects of relations between the United States and the United Kingdom as a member of the enlarged European Communities.

    Civil Service

    Welsh Office (Staff)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service why the Secretary of State for Wales is the only Cabinet Minister at the head of a spending Department without a civil servant of the full rank of Permanent Secretary in his Department; and when he proposes to upgrade the post.

    The grading of the post of the senior civil servant in the Welsh Office is based on its overall responsibilities and on general grading criteria throughout the Civil Service. As with all Civil Service posts, the matter of grading is kept under review.

    Buckingham Palace (Wage Dispute)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will make a statement on the wage dispute now affecting the workers employed at Buckingham Palace; and what action he proposes to take to resolve this dispute.

    I assume that the hon. Member is referring to the pay of industrial civil servants working at the Palace.An offer of an increase of £1·50 a week for adult male time workers has been made by the Official Side and rejected by the Trade Union Side of the Joint Co-ordinating Committee for Government Industrial Establishments. I understand that the next step is likely to be a meeting of the executives of the trade unions involved. I do not think it would be appropriate for me to say more at this stage.

    Defence

    Aircraft (Bird Strike)

    asked the Minister of State for Defence what measures he is taking to reduce the risk of bird strike damage to aircraft operating from Royal Air Force stations; and whether falcons are being used for this purpose.

    Birds are dispersed by reproduced distress calls, by detonating non-lethal shell crackers and, in the last resort, by controlled use of shotguns. Falcons are not used at present at Royal Air Force airfields. Other measures were mentioned in my reply to the hon. Member for West Lothian (Mr. Dalyell) on 17th February.—[Vol. 831, c. 601–2.]

    Education And Science

    Pupils And Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will state the number of children up to the age of 16 years in the State schools and in independent schools, respectively; and the number of qualified and unqualified teachers employed in each category.

    In January, 1971, in maintained schools, 7,922,016 full-time pupils under 16 and the full-time equivalent of 371,610 qualified and 6,907 unqualified teachers. In independent schools, 361,548 full-time pupils and the full-time equivalent of 31,745 teachers, the details of whose qualifications are not available.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    North Vietnam (Medical Supplies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether Her Majesty's Government will contribute towards the appeal for £120,000 to buy medical supplies for North Vietnam being made by the World Council of Churches.

    Home Department

    Carlisle And District State Management Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now publish a complete list of all persons and business organisations who have written asking to be considered for any part of the sale of the Carlisle and District State Management Scheme; and if he will make a statement.

    It would be wrong, and serve no purpose, to give this information at this stage. Under the public tender procedure it will be open to anyone to tender, whether or not he has previously expressed interest.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the increase of the number of alcoholics, he will make it a condition of sale for the Carlisle and District Management Scheme that the buyer must make a substantial contribution towards an investigation into the problem of alcoholism.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the record profit from the Carlisle and District State Management Scheme for the year ended 31st March, 1972, he will arrange for a financial contribution from the Exchequer to be made towards an investigation into the problems of alcoholism.

    The scheme's accounts for the year ended 31st March, 1972, are not yet available. The need for an investigation of the kind proposed is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services to consider.

    Category A Prisoners

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total number of category A prisoners at present serving prison sentences; and what are the shortest and longest sentences being served.

    Dioxitol (Spillage)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement regarding the spillage of dioxitol, a potentially inflammable and toxic liquid, from a lorry at Greyfriars Road in the centre of Ipswich on 6th July, 1972; and what action he proposes to take to prevent any recurrence.

    It was noticed that a drum of dioxitol on a lorry carrying a mixed load of chemicals was leaking slightly. Dioxitol, a trade name for diethylene glycol monoethyl ether, is neither inflammable nor toxic, although its vapour has an irritant effect on the skin. The fire brigade found that a very small quantity of the product had escaped; and, although this was rapidly vapourising, the fire brigade considered it prudent to wash the road down. This incident presented no hazard to the public and my right hon. Friend has no present plans to make the conveyance by road of this substance subject to statutory control.

    Northern Ireland

    Electoral Boundaries

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) if the rule that a district electoral division shall not be interfered with by any Parliamentary boundary still obtains;(2) if those areas of County Armagh, which the Commissioner proposed to include in the new district electoral division of Laghry or Killyman in County Tyrone, are to be treated as part of the Constituency of Fermanagh, South Tyrone.

    The rule that no district electoral division shall be included partly in one constituency and partly in another still stands. But this rule does not necessarily apply to the new district council wards. It is for the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland Parliamentary Boundary Commissions to carry out statutory reviews of all constituencies and make their recommendations; in doing so, they may take account of any local government boundary changes. At present, there has been no alteration in the area covered by the constituency of Fermanagh and South Tyrone.

    Marches (Amnesties)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the information now available relating to amnesties in relation to marches in Northern Ireland, including names, offences and details of the stages reached in the proceedings.

    Names of persons who were convicted at the magistrates' courts of offences contrary to orders made under Section 2(2) of the Public Order Act (Northern Ireland), 1951, prohibiting public processions for the period 25th December, 1971, to 27th April, 1972, are set out below:

    Kevin Agnew.Joseph Howe.
    Kevin Carberry.Brian Ingram.
    Aiden Corrigan.Enda Love.
    Frank Cox.Patrick Martin.
    James Donnelly.Michael A. Maguire
    Thomas J. Flately.Gabriel Morris.
    Eamon Goodwin.Malachy McRoe.
    Kenneth Howe.Charles McCauley.
    Clive Irvine.James McConnell.
    Eamon B. Lunney.Michael McGolderick.
    John Martin.Charles McNally.
    James McGurn.James McQuillan.
    Lawrence Murphy.Terence Owens.
    Gerald Baird.Thomas Scallon.
    Brendan Cassidy.Terence Smyth.
    Malachy Corrigan.Seamus Treacey.
    John P. G. Cox.Patrick McCaffrey.
    Margaret Donnelly.Bernadette Devlin.
    Michael Flynn.Patrick Curran.
    Collette Guidera.Sean Francis Lavelle.
    Bernard Ingram.Michael Naan.
    Dennis Kelly.Michael J. Murphy.
    Joseph Martin.James G. Fitzpatrick.
    Frank Maguire.Sean Holywood.
    Malachy Moohan.Edward Ingram.
    James Murphy.James Murphy.
    Phillip Bonnar.Bernard Owens.
    John P. Casidy.Sylvester McEvoy.
    Paul Corrigan.Michael Rafferty.
    Edward Donegan.Seamus Toner.
    Patrick Ferguson.Malachy McInerney
    James Gavin.James McKinney.
    Kevin McCaffrey.James Joseph Larkin.
    Brendan McCullion.Stephen Ruddy.
    Brian McKenzie.Margot Collins.
    Thomas McPhillips.Michael McKeown.
    Bernard O'Connor.Liam McCabe.
    Frank Petty.Paul Lavery.
    Phillip Sheridan.Rory McShane.
    Patrick Somers.Francis Boyle.
    Thomas Williamson.John J. Doherty.
    Michael Farrell.John Hurl.
    Frank McManus.Thomas Moore.
    Patrick McCahery.Sean Kilpatrick (Sen.).
    John J. McCusker.Michael Lynch.
    Kevin West.Thomas Casey.
    Patrick Tierney.Bernadette Loughran.
    Joseph Cunningham.Peter J. Monaghan.
    Thomas H. Polland.Patrick Toner.
    Denis Cahill.Bernard Owens.
    Patrick Kane.Bernard Tanney.
    Martin O. McClellandFrancis Devlin.
    Patrick O'Reilly.Henry Kelly.
    John Rafferty.Martin Conway.
    Mrs. Ester McNamara.Patrick O'Hanlon.
    Edward Clelland.Patrick Goss.
    Marie McCabe.Sean Daly.
    Colm McAlarney.Richard Rodgers.
    Patrick J. McCaffrey.Michael Keogh.
    Martin McGahey.Austin Currie.
    James McManus.Francis G. Brown.
    Vincent McPhillipsBernard Kelly.
    Patrick O'Reilly.Richard Killen.
    John Reihill.Sean Coleman.
    John Smith.Neil Coney (Sen.).
    Leo Timoney.Hugh McGoldrick
    James Kelly.John McKenna
    Kieran Tracey.John J. Lagan.
    Vincent Fee.Martin Lagan.
    George Neeson.Joseph Begley.
    Daniel F. McQuillen.Sean G. Loughran.
    James McNamee.Michael Mullin.
    Father Vincent Ford.James McElduff.
    Joseph V. Blaney.Michael Quinn.
    John McEvoy.Michael Ward.
    Patrick Leonard.Kevin Glackin.
    Michael J. McClellandPatrick O.
    Raymond CunninghamMcAweaney.
    Patrick W. O'Reilly (Senior).Colin Campbell.
    Patrick McAteer.
    Kieran Rafferty.William Orr.
    James G. Fitzpatrick.John Emanuel
    Patrick J. Corrigan.Taggart.
    Michael Laverty.John McKevitt.
    Patrick McEvoy.Ivan Cooper.
    Peter McCarthy.Patrick Devlin.
    Joseph Lavery.Sean Anthony
    Martin G. Boden.Hollywood.
    James Doris.John Hume.
    Arthur J. Coney.Michael Farrell.
    T. J. Campbell.Kevin Boyle.
    Arthur D. Kearney.Dermot Kelly.
    Alphonsus Nugent.James Scott.
    Rupert Lagan.Peter Heathwood.
    Liam Baxter.Henry Tipping.
    Patrick J. Rafferty.Dennis Nixon.
    Antony Mills.Brian Tipping.
    John Quinn.Gerald Campbell.
    Patrick McMahon.Edward Ferris.
    Kevin Quinlivan.Liam Shannon.
    Noreen Hughes.Seamus Trainor.
    Sean Fox.James McGarvey.
    Leo Kennedy.Gerard Fitt.
    Patrick Rowntree.Peter Doyle.
    Felix Larkin.Edwina Stewart.
    Thomas Noel Rice.
    Eilish MarieFrank Gogarty.
    McDermott.Gerard O'Hare.
    Seamus O'Hara.Rebecca McGlade.
    Francis McAlea.Patrick John Brady.
    Comgall McPhillips.James Kelly.
    Gerald Toland.Lawrence Toal.
    Mrs. BridgetMrs. Sarah Rooney.
    Thompson.Henry Withers.
    Thomas Moore.Dermot McNally.
    Mrs. Rosaleen Toland.Mrs. Angela Geddis
    Charles Sweeney (Sen)Michael Ferris.
    Seamus Clarke.Robert V. Symington.
    Patrick Molloy.Mrs. Kathleen Doris.
    In addition some 30 cases were, in view of the amnesty, withdrawn on the direction of the Attorney-General before they had been determined by the magistrates' courts. It is not thought proper that the names of the persons involved in these cases should be disclosed.

    Fines Remitted

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the information now available as to the total number of fines remitted under his recent amnesty.

    "The Terror And The Tears"

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland why there is a continuing delay in the availability of the publication "The Terror and The Tears" to those persons who have requested copies.

    Terrorist Activities

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many explosions occurred, and what quantity of explosives, including explosives defused, were used by terrorists in Northern Ireland between 2.0 p.m. on Thursday, 22nd June, and midnight on Monday, 26th June, inclusive.

    There were 47 explosions involving an estimated 2,200 lb. of explosives. A further 800 lb was recovered from dismantled devices.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the estimated number of rounds of ammunition fired by terrorists at the security forces, and at the civilian population, in Northern Ireland between 2.0 p.m. on Thursday, 22nd June, and midnight on Monday, 26th June, inclusive.

    Approximately 2,500 rounds were fired at the security forces in 201 incidents. There were 121 other known shooting incidents, in which security forces were not involved. It is not possible to estimate the number of rounds fired in these incidents.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons in Northern Ireland, including members of the security forces, were killed and injured respectively, as a result of terrorist activities between 2.0 p.m. on Thursday, 22nd June, and midnight on Monday, 26th June.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will publish a table showing the number of deaths and injuries respectively due to civil violence, shooting incidents and bomb explosions in Northern Ireland each month from January to June, inclusive.

    Period specified (8 a.m.–8 a.m.)Number of shootings not involving security forcesNumber of shootings involving security forcesTotal number of shooting incidents reported
    25th–26th June193251
    26th–27th June4696142*
    27th–28th June11415
    28th–29th June7310
    29th–30th June22
    30th June–1st July18119
    1st–2nd July19120
    2nd–3rd July17623
    * 53 of these incidents occurred between 12 midnight and 8 a.m.

    Political Offences

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names, offences, date of sentence and period of sentence of all prisoners in Northern Ireland who are now to be considered as political offenders and the percentage of those offenders convicted of offences involving violence.

    All prisoners held in prisons in Northern Ireland have been committed there by order of the courts. None are classified as political offenders.

    The following is the information:

    DEATHS
    1972Civil ViolenceDeaths due to Shooting IncidentsBomb Explosions
    January242
    February1111
    March11919
    April1147
    May12712
    June269
    INJURIES (Necessitating hospital treatment)The following are the only figures available. To analyse them would involve a disproportionate amount of effort.
    Injuries due to
    1972Shooting IncidentsBomb Explosions and Civil Violence
    January41229
    February52239
    March61730
    April76201
    May113559
    June78319

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many separate shooting incidents have been reported in each of the past seven days in Northern Ireland.

    Compensation

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he will make a statement on the question of compensation to victims of violence or police and Army activity in Northern Ireland, in the light of the current agreement to cease hostilities.

    No. Persons who consider themselves entitled to compensation may make a claim under the Criminal Injuries to Persons (Compen-cation) Act (Northern Ireland), 1968, or the Criminal Injuries Acts (Northern Ireland), 1956 to 1970, or at common law, depending upon the circumstances in which the injury or damage was sustained.

    Unreported Burials

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many bodies have been discovered by the security authorities in graves in cemeteries where they had been buried without the knowledge of the authorities; and if he will make a statement.

    None. No evidence has been found to support rumours that certain persons have been buried without the knowledge of the authorities.

    Arrests

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons have been arrested in each of the past seven days on suspicion of being involved in terrorist activity in Northern Ireland; and how many of those arrested had been previously arrested or interned.

    Squatters

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the Government's proposals as to the action they intend to take about squatters who have occupied premises belonging to the Northern Ireland Housing Executive.

    In the present conditions in Northern Ireland squatting, which is closely associated with intimidation, presents a most difficult problem. Eviction is neither a practicable nor a desirable solution. The general granting of tenancies to squatters could create problems for legitimate applicants and encourage a continuation of squatting. The Housing Executive at present charges squatters a fee for use and occupation, only granting tenancies where squatters are considered to be emergency cases.The Ministry of Development and the Northern Ireland Housing Executive are keeping the situation under close observation so that they may immediately take advantage of any opportunity to alleviate the squatting problem which the changing situation in Northern Ireland may bring about. It is hoped that the recently announced public protection agency will help to counter the problem at its source.

    Ex-Prisoners (Departmental Employment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many former prisoners were employed by his Department on the latest date for which statistics are available.

    The information is not readily available and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

    Property Insurance

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will consider indicating a national emergency insurance scheme for property in Northern Ireland to which every interested citizen in the Province will be able to contribute.

    Scotland

    Ex-Prisoners (Departmental Employment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many former prisoners were employed by his Department on the latest date for which statistics are available.

    This information is not readily available and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

    Trade And Industry

    Government Factories (Bothwell)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many Scottish industrial estates factories are empty in the Bothwell constituency; and how many inquiries he has received for them.

    Eleven Department of Trade and Industry factories are either unoccupied or due to be vacated shortly in the six employment exchange areas into which the constituency extends. This year so far the empty factories have been brought to the attention of 54 industrialists eight of whom have visited the district.

    Usa Exports (Tax Deferral)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what recent representations he has made to the United States Government of the tax deferral scheme for exports operated through the Domestic International Sales Corporations.

    An aide-memoire was delivered to the United States authorities on 3rd July. Following is the text:

    Aide Memoire

    Her Majesty's Government refer to their aide-memoire dated 18th October, 1971, which drew attention to the legislative proposals then under consideration which made provision for US manufacturers to set up Domestic International Sales Corporations (DISCs) to manage their export business and for these corporations to obtain deferment of their tax obligations.

    Since the enactment of these proposals a large number of DISCs have been established and HMG have become increasingly concerned about the potentially damaging effects of the DISC legislation on international trade. Estimates published by the US Government and by the Joint Committee on Internal Revenue Taxation on the sum of tax relief on export trade earnings which will be enjoyed by US exporters under this legislation, and statements made by the US Government on their expected effects on export trade from the United States, indicate that the scheme can be expected to have a serious effect on the position of UK and other traders in competition with exporters from the United States.

    It is the view of Her Majesty's Government that the indefinite deferment of direct taxes under the DISC scheme enables export prices to be reduced below the comparable price in the US domestic market. The DISC legislation is therefore clearly contrary to the obligations under the declaration giving effect to the provisions of Article XVI(4) of the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade.

    Her Majesty's Government further maintain that a measure of this kind involving a direct remission of tax is likely to cause serious disturbance in the pattern of international trade and, by provoking the widespread adoption of similar measures, could lead to a damaging and costly competitive struggle between trading countries which would be in the interests of none.

    In view of the above consideration Her Majesty's Government request consultations under Article XXIII(1) of the GATT at an early and mutually convenient date.

    Her Majesty's Government are, in addition, very concerned that the DISCs statute should provide for certain freight rates to qualify towards export costs of DISC provided that the goods are carried in aircraft owned and operated by United States persons, or in ships documented under the laws of the United States. Her Majesty's Government expect these discriminatory provisions to have damaging effects on the trade both of UK air carriers and of UK maritime interests. In particular, the extension of discrimination into the field of normal commercial cargo could undermine the conference system in the North Atlantic and the efforts that have been made to restore order and profitability to the trade on these routes.

    As was made clear to representatives of the US State Department on 20th March, 1972, in the view of Her Majesty's Government these regulations are totally inconsistent with US international obligations under the terms of the UK/US Air Services Agreement, and particularly with paragraph (4) of the "Final Act" of the Bermuda Civil Aviation Conference.

    The regulations are also in breach of the obligations assumed by the United States Government under the 1794 Treaty of Amity, Commerce and Navigation, and under the 1815 Convention of Commerce.

    In view of the obligations referred to in paragraph 7 and 8 above, Her Majesty's Government request early clarification of the steps the US Government propose to take to remedy this situation in order to fulfil their international undertakings.

    British Embassy,

    Washington,

    3rd July, 1972.

    Wales

    Motorways

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many miles of motorway in Wales were under construction in April and October, 1965, and every years since to April, 1972.

    The information is as follows:

    MOTORWAY MILEAGE UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    YearAprilOctober
    196522·9022·90
    196622·9022·90
    196715·80Nil
    1968NilNil
    1969NilNil
    1970Nil4·0
    19714·04·0
    19724·0
    A further 52 miles are in the planning stage.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many miles of motorway were built in Wales each year from 1960 to date, with the percentage increase per year.

    The information is as follows:

    Year ending 31st DecemberMotor mileage in usePercentage increase on previous year Per cent.
    1960NilNil
    1961NilNil
    1962NilNil
    1963NilNil
    1964NilNil
    1965NilNil
    19664·4
    196722·9420
    196822·9Nil
    196922·9Nil
    197022·9Nil
    197122·9Nil
    1972 (to date)22·9Nil
    A further four miles will be opened later this year, representing an increase of 17·5 per cent.

    Welsh Office (Staff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will make a further statement on the number of Under-Secretaries in the Welsh Office as at 1st April, 1972.

    The seven posts are deployed as follows. Planning; Health; Local Government; Finance and General; Education; Chief Medical Officer; and Director of Highways.

    Secondary School Building

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much money was spent on secondary school building in each education authority area in Wales in each of the last 10 years, with also the number of schools built in each area, and the total for Wales.

    The value of major secondary school building projects completed by each local education authority in Wales and the number of new secondary schools completed in each area in each of the last 10 years are as follows:

    VALUE OF COMPLETIONS
    £000s

    Authority

    1962196319641965196619671968196919701971

    Total Local Education Authority

    Anglesey1928450164266756
    Breconshire326201527
    Caernarvonshire491021585143381,161
    Cardiganshire43101144
    Carmarthenshire2941511762003963921,609
    Denbighshire2151282513466181691,727
    Flintshire116563973313601,260
    Glamorgan4302507641,3586152653577907951,1316,755
    Merioneth210246222678
    Monmouthshire598120815159517227241731691,0053,924
    Montgomeryshire1156475123377
    Pembrokeshire137439141717
    Radnorshire21670286
    Cardiff4198432437601245656327194644,769
    Merthyr Tydfil9446771,621
    Newport2612353182811,095
    Swansea199343443046373701,888
    Totals Wales3,0491,7553,5913,5301,8352,5051,4033,3644,1274,13529,294
    NEW SECONDARY SCHOOLS COMPLETED

    NEW SECONDARY SCHOOLS COMPLETED
    £000s

    Authority

    1962

    1963

    1964

    196519661967

    1968

    1969

    1970

    1971

    Total Local Education Authority

    Anglesey
    Breconshire22
    Caernarvonshire112
    Cardiganshire
    Carmarthenshire21115
    Denbighshire1214
    Flintshire1214
    Glamorgan14531113322
    Merioneth
    Monmouthshire1121112312
    Montgomeryshire11
    Pembrokeshire1214
    Radnorshire
    Cardiff141221112
    Merthyr Tydfil224
    Newport11
    Swansea11114
    Totals Wales771212571771277