Written Answers To Questions
Friday, 10th November, 1972
Lands Tribunal (Legal Aid)
asked the Attorney-General how many applications for legal aid relating to cases before the Lands Tribunal were successful in 1971.
Four applications for legal aid in proceedings before the Lands Tribunal were granted in 1971–72.
House Of Commons
European Parliament
asked the Lord President of the Council on what basis Members of Parliament who are selected to attend the European Parliament at Strasbourg are entitled to receive a £23 per day subsistence allowance and a travel allowance of 10p per kilometre for the first 400 kilometres and 2½p thereafter; how these payments compare with those paid from the House of Commons Vote to Members of Parliament on official business; and whether these payments are tax-free.
I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the lion. Member for Walthamstow, West (Mr. Deakins) on 7th November, 1972.The subsistence and travel allowances which are payable to Members of the United Kingdom Parliament travelling in
| CIVIL SERVICE STAFF IN POST—1ST OCTOBER, 1972 | |||||||||
| Ministerial Responsibilities | Central Administration | Public Services | Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services | General Support Services | |||||
| CABINET OFFICE: | |||||||||
| Secretariat and central support staff | … | … | 413 | — | — | — | |||
| Central Statistical Office | … | … | … | 178 | — | — | — | ||
| 591 | — | — | — | ||||||
| AGRICULTURE, FISHERIES AND FOOD: | |||||||||
| Agriculture, Fisheries and Food policy | … | 1,805 | — | — | — | ||||
| Agricultural Development and Advisory Service | … | … | … | … | … | — | 5,329 | — | — |
| Other technical staff | … | … | … | … | — | 94 | — | — | |
| Regional and divisional offices | … | … | — | 5,034 | — | — | |||
| Kew Gardens and Wakehurst Place | … | … | — | 468 | — | — | |||
| Fisheries, Pest Infestation, Food Science and Torry Research Laboratories | … | … | — | 977 | — | — | |||
| Central Services | … | … | … | … | 1,829 | — | — | — | |
| 3,634 | 11,902 | — | — | ||||||
this country on official business—e.g., as members of a Select Committee—are based on the rates and conditions of payment which apply to senior civil servants. The night subsistence allowance is £6·24 Normal first-class travel applies. When travelling abroad on official business the rate of subsistence allowance varies according to the country visited.
Members of Parliament attending meetings of the Council of Europe and Western European Union receive a daily subsistence allowance of Fr. Frs. 200 (£16·70 at current rate of exchange) and a miscellaneous daily expenses allowance of Fr. Frs. 50 (£4·10 at current rate of exchange).
The question of whether allowances paid to members of the European Assembly would be free of United Kingdom tax is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer.—[Vol. 845, c. 159.]
Civil Service
Staff Analysis
asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will provide an anlysis of Civil Service staff in post on 1st October on the same basis as the analysis on 8th August, 1972.
The analysis is as follows:
Ministerial Responsibilities
| Central Administration
| Public Services
| Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services
| General Support Services
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| CHANCELLOR OF THE EXCHEQUER: | ||||||||||
| Treasury | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1,037 | — | — | 43 |
| Customs and Excise: | ||||||||||
| Collection of indirect taxes and control of imports and exports | … | … | … | 1,904 | 18,935 | — | — | |||
| Import and export statistics | … | … | 958 | — | — | |||||
| Inland Revenue: | ||||||||||
| Collection of direct taxes etc. | … | … | 2,402 | 60,866 | 89 | — | ||||
| Land and property valuation services | … | 6,338 | — | 1,630 | ||||||
| Department for National Savings: | ||||||||||
| Receipt and repayment of savings | … | … | 261 | — | 13,283 | — | ||||
| Support of voluntary savings movement | … | 500 | — | — | ||||||
| Small Departments: | ||||||||||
| Exchequer Office, Scotland | … | … | … | 17 | 10 | 30 | 10 | |||
| Government Actuary | … | … | … | — | — | — | 56 | |||
| National Debt Office | … | … | … | 12 | 23 | 20 | — | |||
| Paymaster General's Office | … | … | … | 61 | — | — | 594 | |||
| Registry of Friendly Societies | … | … | 16 | 65 | 13 | — | ||||
| Royal Mint | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1,408 | — | ||
| Treasury Solicitor | … | … | … | … | 75 | 34 | — | 275 | ||
| 5,785 | 87,729 | 14,843 | 2,608 | |||||||
| EDUCATION AND SCIENCE: | ||||||||||
| Educational and scientific policy and administration, including University Grants Committees and H.M. Inspectorate of Schools | 2,136 | 805 | — | — | ||||||
| National Lending Library | … | … | … | — | — | 292 | — | |||
| Victoria and Albert Museum | … | … | … | — | 631 | — | — | |||
| Science Museum | … | … | … | … | — | 411 | — | — | ||
| 2,136 | 1,847 | 292 | — | |||||||
| EMPLOYMENT: | ||||||||||
| Employment and training services | … | … | 1,638 | 16,370 | 84 | — | ||||
| Occupational safety and health | … | … | 1,489 | — | — | |||||
| Industrial relations | … | … | … | … | 767 | — | — | |||
| Industrial Tribunals and Industrial Court | … | 280 | — | — | ||||||
| Selective employment payments | … | … | 459 | — | — | |||||
| Unemployment benefit and redundancy payments | … | … | … | … | … | … | 12,062 | — | — | |
| Passport work | … | … | … | … | … | — | 508 | — | ||
| Office of Manpower Economics | … | … | — | 51 | — | — | ||||
| 1,638 | 31,478 | 592 | — | |||||||
| ENVIRONMENT: | ||||||||||
| Property Services Agency | … | … | … | 2,192 | 1,416 | 7,254 | 36,208 | |||
| Local Government and Environmental Services | 2,812 | 6,664 | 5,459 | 792 | ||||||
| Housing | … | … | … | … | … | … | 149 | 481 | — | — |
| Transport Industries | … | … | … | … | 752 | 220 | 2,374 | — | ||
| Research | … | … | … | … | … | — | 2,768 | — | — | |
| Related Bodies | … | … | … | … | … | — | 568 | — | — | |
| Ordnance Survey | … | … | … | 208 | 3,967 | 512 | — | |||
| 6,113 | 16,084 | 15,599 | 37,000 | |||||||
| FOREIGN AND COMMONWEALTH: | ||||||||||
| Diplomatic Service (Home) | … | … | … | 3,230 | 144 | 57 | 49 | |||
| Diplomatic Service (Overseas) | … | … | — | 2,578 | 303 | — | ||||
| Diplomatic Wireless Service | … | … | … | 380 | 1,128 | — | — | |||
| Government Communications Headquarters | 234 | 1,661 | — | — | ||||||
| Passport Office | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 731 | — | |
| Overseas Development Administration: | ||||||||||
| Aid Administration | … | … | … | … | 949 | — | — | — | ||
| Overseas manpower division | … | … | — | 413 | — | — | ||||
| Overseas technical assistance | … | … | — | 932 | — | — | ||||
| 4,793 | 6,856 | 1,091 | 49 | |||||||
Ministerial Responsibilities
| Central Administration
| Public Services
| Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services
| General Support Services
| ||||||
| HOME: | ||||||||||
| Prisons (England and Wales) | … | … | … | 476 | 19,099 | — | — | |||
| Immigration | … | … | … | … | … | 1,027 | 1,275 | — | — | |
| Police Services | … | … | … | … | … | 256 | 3,091 | — | — | |
| Fire | … | … | … | … | … | … | 85 | 339 | — | — |
| Criminal | … | … | … | … | … | … | 133 | — | — | — |
| Probation and after-care | … | … | … | 174 | 71 | — | — | |||
| Community programmes and general | … | 115 | — | — | — | |||||
| Scientific, research and statistics | … | … | 249 | — | — | — | ||||
| Central services | … | … | … | … | … | 694 | — | — | — | |
| Finance and Accounts | … | … | … | … | 258 | — | — | — | ||
| Carlisle State Management Scheme | … | … | — | — | 781 | — | ||||
| 3,467 | 23,875 | 781 | — | |||||||
| LORD CHANCELLOR: | ||||||||||
| Lord Chancellor's Department | … | … | 241 | — | — | — | ||||
| Courts Service | … | … | … | … | … | — | 8,347 | — | — | |
| Family Division | … | … | … | … | — | 510 | — | — | ||
| Land Registry | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 4,514 | — | |
| Public Trustee | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 542 | — | |
| Public Record Office | … | … | … | … | — | 338 | — | — | ||
| 241 | 9,185 | 5,056 | — | |||||||
| LORD PRIVY SEAL: | ||||||||||
| Civil Service Department: | ||||||||||
| Management of the Civil Service | … | … | … | 679 | — | — | 188 | |||
| Civil Service Recruitment | … | … | … | — | — | — | 447 | |||
| Civil Service College | … | … | … | — | — | — | 333 | |||
| Central Services | … | … | … | … | 643 | — | — | — | ||
| Chessington Computer Centre | … | … | — | — | — | 317 | ||||
| Central Computer Agency | … | … | … | 89 | — | — | 413 | |||
| Civil Service Catering Organisation | … | — | — | 120 | — | |||||
| Central Office of Information | … | … | 106 | — | — | 1,226 | ||||
| H.M. Stationery Office: | ||||||||||
| Procurement and distribution of paper, printing, etc. | … | … | … | … | 417 | — | 1,521 | 1,508 | ||
| Production units; printing, binding and reprographic | … | … | … | … | — | 1,182 | 2,771 | |||
| 1,934 | — | 2,823 | 7,203 | |||||||
| NORTHERN IRELAND: | ||||||||||
| Northern Ireland Office | … | … | … | 103 | — | — | — | |||
| POSTS AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS: | ||||||||||
| Broadcasting and radio regulatory | … | … | 199 | 40 | 99 | 28 | ||||
| Posts and Telecommunications | … | … | 89 | — | — | — | ||||
| 288 | 40 | 99 | 28 | |||||||
| SCOTLAND: | ||||||||||
| Scottish Office: | ||||||||||
| Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | … | … | … | … | … | 419 | 2,008 | — | — | |
| Scottish Development Department | … | 716 | 72 | 64 | — | |||||
| Scottish Education Department | … | … | 278 | 300 | — | — | ||||
| Scottish Home and Health Department | … | 505 | 476 | 47 | — | |||||
| Central Services | … | … | … | … | 2,139 | — | — | — | ||
| Prisons | … | … | … | … | … | — | 2,199 | — | — | |
| State Hospital | … | … | … | … | — | 308 | — | — | ||
| Scottish Courts Service, etc. | … | … | … | — | 534 | — | — | |||
| Small Scottish Departments: | ||||||||||
| General Register Office, Scotland | … | … | 33 | 392 | — | — | ||||
| Lord Lyon and Warden of Regalia | … | — | — | 5 | — | |||||
| Registers of Scotland | … | … | … | — | — | 318 | — | |||
| Royal Scottish Museum | … | … | … | — | 165 | — | — | |||
| Scottish Record Office | … | … | … | — | 134 | — | — | |||
| 4,090 | 6,588 | 434 | — | |||||||
Ministerial Responsibilities
| Central Administration
| Public Services
| Executive Functions Trading and Repayment Services
| General Support Services
| ||||||
| SOCIAL SERVICES: | ||||||||||
| Health Services: | ||||||||||
| Special Hospitals | … | … | … | … | 4,390 | 1,654 | — | — | ||
| Artificial Limb and Appliance Centres | … | 899 | — | — | ||||||
| National Health Service Superannuation | … | 400 | — | — | ||||||
| War Pensions Hospital | … | … | … | 4,390 | ||||||
| Artificial Eye Unit | … | … | … | … | 91 | — | — | |||
| Common Cold Research Unit | … | … | ||||||||
| Youth Treatment Centre | … | … | … | |||||||
| Social Security Benefit Services: | ||||||||||
| Regional Organisations | … | … | … | 2,772 | 51,780 | — | — | |||
| Newcastle Central Office | … | … | … | 10,834 | — | — | ||||
| Blackpool Central Office | … | … | … | 2,143 | — | — | ||||
| ADP Centre, Reading | … | … | … | 184 | — | — | ||||
| Office of Population Censuses and Surveys | … | 531 | 1,419 | — | 594 | |||||
| 7,693 | 69,404 | — | 594 | |||||||
| TRADE AND INDUSTRY: | ||||||||||
| International trade | … | … | … | … | 590 | 991 | — | — | ||
| Industry and commerce | … | … | … | 1,703 | 2,890 | 2,566 | — | |||
| Industrial research | … | … | … | … | — | 3,688 | — | — | ||
| Civil Aviation and Marine | … | … | … | 434 | 774 | 604 | — | |||
| Central Services (including Business Statistics Office) | … | … | … | … | … | … | 3,482 | — | — | 889 |
| Export Credits Guarantee Department | … | — | — | 1,632 | — | |||||
| 6,209 | 8,343 | 4,802 | 889 | |||||||
| WALES: | ||||||||||
| Welsh Office: | ||||||||||
| Primary and secondary education including H.M. Inspectors of Schools | … | … | 24 | 50 | — | — | ||||
| Local government and development including housing | … | … | … | … | 366 | — | — | — | — | |
| Health Services | … | … | … | … | 152 | — | — | — | ||
| Artificial Limb and Appliance Centre | … | — | 46 | — | — | |||||
| Central Services | … | … | … | … | 333 | — | — | — | ||
| 875 | 96 | — | — | |||||||
| SMALL DEPARTMENTS: | ||||||||||
| Charity Commission | … | … | … | … | 46 | 282 | — | — | ||
| Civil Service Pay Research Unit | … | … | — | — | — | 41 | ||||
| Crown Estate Office | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 122 | — | |
| Crown Office | … | … | … | … | … | 23 | — | — | — | |
| Director of Public Prosecutions | … | … | 10 | 139 | — | — | ||||
| Law Officers' Department | … | … | … | 17 | — | — | — | |||
| Lord Advocate's Department | … | … | … | 13 | — | — | — | |||
| Parliamentary Counsel | … | … | … | — | — | — | 45 | |||
| Privy Council Office | … | … | … | … | 33 | — | — | — | ||
| Procurator Fiscal Service | … | … | … | — | 302 | — | — | |||
| Registrar of Restrictive Trading Agreement | — | 67 | — | — | ||||||
| Registry of Trade Unions and Employers' Associations | … | … | … | … | … | 21 | 23 | — | — | |
| Supreme Court of Northern Ireland | … | … | — | 93 | — | — | ||||
| 163 | 906 | 122 | 86 | |||||||
| TOTAL | … | … | … | … | … | 49,753 | 274,333 | 46,534 | 48,457 | |
| GRAND TOTAL | … | … | … | 419,077 | ||||||
| DEFENCE | Ministerial Responsibilities
| Staff
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| Ministry of Defence Headquarters: | ||||||||||
| (a) Main Headquarters | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 10,953 | |
| (b) Defence Procurement Executive Headquarters | … | … | … | … | … | 6,675 | ||||
| Maintenance, repair, storage and supply organizations | … | … | … | … | … | 107,069 | ||||
| Command and support services for armed forces including medical, education and training establishments | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 78,167 |
| Defence Procurement Organisation outside Headquarters, including Research and Development establishments and Royal Ordnance factories | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 65,610 |
| Meteorological Office | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 3,434 |
| 271,908 | ||||||||||
NOTE:—
The following are the definitions related to the column headings of the above tables:
CENTRAL ADMINISTRATION
Staff at headquarters concerned with:
a. the introduction or development of policy and related matters;
b, central services such as the provision of professional advice and support services such as finance and personnel.
EXECUTIVE FUNCTIONS
Public Services: Staff concerned with the application of policy, e.g. paying sickness benefits, collecting taxes and contributions, staffing prisons and providing services to industry, including research and development.
Trading and Repayment Services: Staff engaged on activities which are largely financially self-supporting through sales, fees or charges for goods and service.
Common Support Services: Staff engaged in providing services for other departments. (A departs ment's own central services staff are included in the column headed "Central Administration" unles- the staff is concerned with providing an inter-departmental service.)
Defence
British Honduras
asked the Minister of State for Defence when he expects that equipment designed to make iced water available for the troops in British Honduras will be installed in Central Camp.
One unit of equipment designed to make iced water will be delivered to Central Farm Camp in mid-December. A second unit is being obtained from the United Kingdom manufacturers and is expected to arrive by April, 1973. In addition, there are two domestic refrigerators and a bottle cooler already installed at the camp.
asked the Minister of State for Defence (1) how many units of sleeping accommodation used by the forces in British Honduras are equipped with air-conditioning;(2) how many units of sleeping accommodation used by British forces in British Honduras are equipped with ceiling fans.
There are 589 units of sleeping accommodation. Of these, 49 units are equipped with air conditioning, 180 units are equipped with ceiling fans and 360 are equipped with wall or table fans, mostly wall.
Employment
Employed Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the estimated numbers of wage earners, salary earners and self-employed, respectively.
In the statistics of employment, employees are classified according to whether they are manual or non-manual workers rather than by whether their system of payment is by wages or salary. However, manual workers are often taken to correspond broadly with wage earners and non-manual workers with salary earners. Estimates for Demember, 1971, are given below:
| Millions | ||
| Employees in employment of which | 21·9 | |
| Manual workers | 12·7 | |
| Non-manual workers | 9·2 | |
| Employers and self-employed persons | 1·7 |
It is expected that revised estimates of the numbers of employers and self-employed persons, which take account of information from the 1971 Census of Population, will be available shortly.
Trade Unions (Tuc Affiliation)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the total membership of trade unions affiliated to the Trades Union Congress, expressed as a percentage of the numbers of employed persons and the numbers of employed and self-employed, respectively, for the past 10 years.
The affiliated membership of trade unions affiliated to the Trades Union Congress formed the following percentages of the total number of employed persons and of the total number of employed and self-employed:
| Employed | Employed and self-employed | |
| 1963 | 35·3 | 32·9 |
| 1964 | 35·1 | 32·7 |
| 1965 | 36·7 | 34·2 |
| 1966 | 36·8 | 34·4 |
| 1967 | 36·9 | 34·4 |
| 1968 | 36·9 | 34·3 |
| 1969 | 37·6 | 34·9 |
| 1970 | 40·1 | 37·2 |
| 1971 | 43·0 | 39·9 |
| 1972 | Not yet available | Not yet available |
Pay Settlements
asked the Secretary of State for Employment by what means he is informed of cash equivalents of pay settlements, after taking into account the adjustments for changes in working conditions, in the private sector where he has been informed that an industrial dispute is taking place.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Doncaster on 8th August, 1972. There are no general arrangements for terms of settlements to be reported to my Department, whether or not an industrial dispute has been taking place.—[Vol. 842, c. 354.]
Carron Hydraulics Limited, Kirkcaldy
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is aware of the impending closure of the Carron Hydraulics Limited factory in Kirkcaldy, involving a loss of some 80 male engineering jobs; and what steps he is taking to assist those to be made redundant with finding alternative employment.
My Department has been informed of the proposed closure, but not of any redundancies. Should any of the work people need help in securing other employment, our local officers will, of course, do everything possible to assist.
Batley And Morley
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the numbers of unemployed in Batley and Morley, respectively, at the latest convenient date, and on that same date in each of the three preceding years.
The total numbers registered as unemployed in the areas covered by the Batley and Morley employment exchanges were:
| Batley | Morley | |
| October, 1972 | 590 | 391 |
| October, 1971 | 913 | 493 |
| October, 1970 | 547 | 286 |
| October, 1969 | 449 | 215 |
Lodden Bridge, Berkshire (Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he has yet received a report from his Chief Inspector on Lodden Bridge, Berkshire.
I have received an interim report on the Lodden Bridge collapse on 30th October, 1972. It indicated that further investigations were needed. These inquiries cannot be hurried, but they are being given priority. I expect to receive a final report in about four weeks.
Environment
A45 (Speed Limit)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he is satisfied with the working of the 60 miles per hour speed limit on the A45; and if he will make a statement;(2) what study has been made of the accident pattern on the A45 since the 60 miles per hour speed limit was introduced.
A study was carried out by the University of Birmingham in 1969. Since then traffic flows have been affected by the opening of the M6 motorway. A further study is therefore being carried out by Warwickshire County Council which is expected to be completed by January, 1973. My Department's Road Safety Unit are also examining the accident data. Until these studies are completed, I cannot assess the present value of the 60 m.p.h. limit, but I will write to the hon. Gentleman as soon as this further information is available.
Libraries (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total cost to his Department in the latest available year in carrying out its responsibilities for all kinds of publicly-financed libraries; and what is the number of staff involved.
In 1971–72 the Department incurred £669,897 capital expenditure on buildings at Boston Spa for the National Lending Library of Science and Technology and £11,000 on maintenance for the National Library of Scotland. A varying number of staff was involved part-time on these activities and in planning the British Library building and new works for the National Library of Scotland. The Department also maintains the British Museum and other national museums but no separate record is kept of the cost and staff concerned with maintaining their libraries.
Foamed Plastics (Fumes)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what advice has been given to local authorities concerning the danger from burning foamed plastics; and what steps have been taken to protect caretakers from lung damage due to inhaling toxic fumes when called to control bonfires on which foamed plastics are burning.
Since I am advised by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department that the combustion of this material in the open is no more dangerous than that of other things commonly burned on bonfires, I see no need to issue special guidance of the kind mentioned by the hon. Member.
Chronically Sick And Disabled Persons Act, 1970
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he is taking to remind local authorities of the need to ensure compliance of those concerned regarding the requirements of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act, 1970, especially with regard to facilities in public buildings for wheel chairs and including lifts, ramps, etc.; and if he is satisfied that these requirements of the Act are being met.
I shall shortly be writing to local authorities referring to advice previously given on the relevant provisions of this Act, and bringing to their notice up-to-date information concerning design for the disabled. Information about the implementation of certain requirements of the Act is currently being obtained by the Central Council for the Disabled and will be made available to me. I shall then consider it carefully.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that the requirements of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act, 1970, relating to the provision of facilities for wheel chairs in public buildings are not being restricted by fire and safety regulations; and if he will inquire into these aspects.
Where the need to maintain public safety conflicts with the desirability of allowing access to buildings for the disabled, the former must prevail. In practice, a reconciliation of these needs is increasingly being achieved, either through better design or as a result of special arrangements made locally.
Railway Network (Reorganisation)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will issue a Green Paper on his plans for the reorganisation of the British Rail network before such plans are agreed between his Department and British Rail.
I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member for Derby, South (Mr. Walter Johnson) on 8th November.—[Vol. 345, c. 1000.]
One-Way Traffic (Oxford)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now announce his decision on the proposals of Oxford City Council for a one-way traffic system in Banbury and Woodstock Roads.
The council's proposals do not require my right hon. and learned Friend's approval.
Prefabricated Houses
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) how many postwar prefabricated houses are in use in England in private ownership;(2) how many post-war prefabricated houses are still in use by local authorities in England.
Under the Housing Finance Act, 1972, local authorities have sole responsibility for their own post-war prefabricated bungalows. I no longer keep comprehensive records of the total number of these still in use. However, at the end of 1971, some 30,000 of the 124,970 bungalows provided under the Housing (Temporary Accommodation) Act 1944, in England and Wales were still in use. The figures for England separately are not readily available. I am not aware that any bungalows provided under the 1944 Act are privately owned for housing purposes.
Railway Services
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the fact that there is a statutory duty placed upon local authorities to consult with the appropriate representative bodies before initiating schemes of road traffic management, if he will, at the earliest possible stage, consult with appropriate bodies including the local authority associations, whenever decisions affecting the future character of the national rail network fall to be considered.
I always carry out such consultations as are appropriate.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will issue a general direction to British Railways that regional executives should consult at an early stage with local authorities whenever proposals are made likely to affect the structure or level of local services.
No. But I expect local authorities and public transport operators, including British Rail, to work closely together.
Land And Property Acquisition (Compensation)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if under his new proposals it will still be possible for people to have land and property acquired for motorway purposes and receive no monetary compensation.
This possibility can occur in exceptional cases, for example where the betterment provisions of Section 7 of the Land Compensation Act, 1961 (that is to say, for off-setting against the compensation the increase in value of adjacent land in the same ownership) or similar provisions in other Acts operate to produce such a result.I am not proposing any changes in the principles involved.
Heavy Goods Vehicles (Overnight Parking)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proposals he has for dealing with the problem of overnight parking of heavy goods vehicles in residential areas; and if he will introduce legislation to ban this practice.
Local authorities already have powers to ban heavy lorries from parking in the streets.
Harbours Act, 1964 (Yorkshire And Humberside)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will list all loans made under Section 11 of the Harbours Act, 1964, to harbour authorities in Yorkshire and Humberside, giving, in each case, the date, amount and recipient of the loan and the proportion of it still to be repaid.
No such loans have been made to harbour authorities in the Yorkshire and Humberside Economic Planning Region.
Home Department
Master Tsam
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the hon. Member for Holborn and St. Pancras, South, may expect to receive a definite reply to her letter of 19th August requesting permission for Master Tsam, aged 12, now living in Hong Kong to join his parents, who are both British passport holders living in the United Kingdom.
I replied to the hon. Member's letter on 23rd October, following inquiries in Hong Kong. A reply will be sent to the hon. Member's further letter of 25th October as soon as possible.
Northern Ireland
Egg Subsidy Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the detailed computations which have led him to
| Description of Scheme | Annual Rate £ | Duration of Scheme | |||
| Agricultural Education (Relief Workers) Scheme | … | … | … | 75,000 | 3 years |
| Special Land Improvement Scheme | … | … | … | 600,000 | 3 years |
| Grassland Improvement Scheme | … | … | … | 1,000,000 | 3 years |
| Grant to encourage silage making | … | … | … | 100,000 | 3 years |
| Livestock Improvement (Beef A1) | … | … | … | 100,000 | 3 years |
| Aid to Pig Industry | … | … | … | 400,000 | 3 years |
| Potentially viable egg producers | … | … | … | 1,250,000 | 1 year |
| Egg Marketing | … | … | … | 100,000 | 3 years |
| Increased Grants on fishing vessels | … | … | … | 70,000 | 3 years |
Laying Flocks
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the present size of the laying flocks in Northern Ireland compared with figures for the past three years.
The size of the laying flock in Northern Ireland in September, 1972, was estimated to be 8,190,000.The average size of the laying flock in the past three years was:
| 1969–70 | 8·6 million |
| 1970–71 | 8·8 million |
| 1971–72 | 9·1 million |
European Economic Community
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, what represe-sentations he has received from the Ulster conclude that the Northern Ireland Egg Subsidy Scheme will save 1,200 jobs.
The number of hatching eggs being put down in early 1972 indicated that there was likely to be a drop of approximately 30 per cent. in egg production in Northern Ireland in the latter part of the year. As a result, about 2,000 people (producers, packers, transport workers, feed mill employees, etc.) would have lost their jobs. It is expected that the help being given under the Employment in Agriculture Scheme will reduce this figure to 800.
Agriculture (Grants)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the type and estimated annual cost of the special grants to agriculture designed to maintain employment in Northern Ireland.
The details of the Special Employment in Agriculture Schemes now in operation are as follows:Farmers Union and the Northern Ireland Pigs Marketing Board about the arrangements for pig meat during the transitional period of entry into the European Economic Community; and what action he has taken.
My predecessor received a deputation from the Pigs Marketing Board and the Ulster Farmers' Union on 18th September. The industry expressed concern that the transitional arrangements might have a harmful effect on the production and processing of pigs in Northern Ireland.The importance to the Northern Ireland pig industry of preserving fair competition, I can assure the hon. Gentleman, is very much in the Government's mind, and every effort will be made to ensure that the temporary arrangements which will operate during the transitional period do not lead to distortions in trade.
Security (Co-Operation)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he is satisfied with the working co-operation between the Army and the Royal Ulster Constabulary in Northern Ireland with the Army and police in Southern Ireland; and if he will enter into discussions to set up an instant telecommunications system and set out a working code of practice for dealing with incidents.
I cannot be satisfied so long as border incidents continue and at so high a rate. Much more could be done to prevent terrorist cross-border operations, and this view has been repeatedly made clear to the authorities in the Republic. Her Majesty's Government have always sought co-operation and are ready to discuss any procedures which will ensure prompt and effective action against terrorists.
Scotland
Homicide (Emslie Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has received the report of the Emslie Committee on the penalties for homicide.
I have received this Report and I hope to be able to publish it soon.
Criminal Trials (Cost)
asked the Lord Advocate whether he will detail the net cost of administration and accommodation for the trial of criminal cases in the High Court and sheriffs' courts and in the magistrates' courts for the last available year.
For the reasons given in my right hon. Friend's reply on 17th July, to a similar Question by the hon. Member, it is not possible to identify separately the cost of criminal cases in the various courts.—[Vol. 841, c. 36.]
Social Services
Rampton Hospital
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make a statement on the escape of two patients from Rampton Hospital on 1st November.
The patients are believed to have absconded from their ward by removing a window from a first floor room, jumping to the ground, and then to have succeeded in getting over the perimeter fence and wall. The ward is of the villa type occupied by selected patients regarded as needing only minimal supervision. At the time, the normal number of ward staff were on duty. There are no grounds for linking this escape to the present staff unrest at the hospital. The police were notified and the search procedure initiated. The patients have not yet been found. The windows of this and a similar ward have since been made more secure.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in view of the fact that there have been two escapes and one suicide since 1st October and because of the general disturbance to morale at Rampton Hospital, he will authorise a return to work on the old shift system before 19th November.
I do not accept that there is a connection between the recent escapes and suicide and the change in the shift system worked by the nurses.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will order an inquiry into the search procedures following escapes from Rampton Special Hospital now that the new shift prevents off-duty staff from participating in the search for a full day; and whether he will investigate the use of helicopters at an early stage when the alarm has been sounded.
The initial search of the hospital buildings and grounds is carried out by hospital staff. The search beyond the limits of the hospital is a matter for the police but the hospital staff co-operate fully. The extent of the assistance we were able to offer the police in connection with the recent escape was as great as on previous occasions and I am grateful to the off-duty staff who responded so readily to the alarm on 1st November.
Miss Jacqueline Paddon
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services which hospitals were asked to provide accommodation and treatment for Miss Jacqueline Paddon.
I understand that following her committal for trial on 23rd June the court requested a medical report, and that the possibility of her readmission to South Ockendon Hospital was considered, but that in the event no hospital was asked to admit her nor did the medical report recommend such admission.
Benefits (Polygamous Immigrants)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the wives of polygamous immigrants are entitled under his regulations to social security benefits and supplementary benefits; whether there is a limit to the number of wives in receipt of such benefits; and whether all the children of all the wives are entitled to social security and supplementary benefits.
Regulations made for the purposes of the National Insurance, Industrial Injuries and Family Allowances Acts provide that a marriage which may have been, or is potentially, polygamous, but is in fact monogamous at the time of a claim for benefit, may be treated, for National Insurance pur-
| LEGAL ABORTIONS NOTIFIED AS BEING CARRIED OUT IN ENGLAND AND WALES TO WOMEN USUALLY RESIDENT IN THE IRISH REPUBLIC | ||||||
| 27th April to 31st December. 1968 | 1969 | 1970 | 1971 | |||
| All ages | … | … | 64 | 122 | 261 | 577 |
| 0–15 | … | … | Not available | Not available | 0 | 5 |
| 16–19 | … | … | 28 | 63 | ||
| 20–24 | … | … | 112 | 253 | ||
| 25–29 | … | … | 52 | 143 | ||
| 30–34 | … | … | 35 | 49 | ||
| 35–39 | … | … | 23 | 39 | ||
| 40–44 | … | … | 3 | 12 | ||
| 45+ | … | … | 0 | 2 | ||
| Not stated | … | … | 8 | 11 | ||
| For the period 1st January to 30th June, 1972 the provisional total for women of all ages is 391. The analysis of these figures by marital condition is not available. | ||||||
Population Census (Confidentiality)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to receive the reports of the Computer Society and the Royal Statistical Society, respectively, on the privacy of poses, as though it were a monagamous marriage. There is no provision which gives title to benefit in respect of a marriage which is actually polygamous. As regards supplementary benefit, provision for a man's requirements would include those of any wife living with him and of any of their children who were in the household.
Abortions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many abortions were notified as being carried out in England from 1st January to 30th June, 1972, on women whose normal place of residence was given as Northern Ireland.
The latest figure available is 188 for the period 1st January to 31st March, 1972. I will write to the hon. Member as soon as the figure for the June quarter is available.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many abortions were notified as being carried out in England during the period 27th April to 31st December, 1968, the years 1969, 1970 and 1971 and 1st January to 30th June, 1972, on women whose normal place of residence was given as the Republic of Ireland; and what was their marital condition and age.
Available figures are as follows:information collected in the Population Census.
My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland and I received the reports of the British Computer Society and of the Royal Statistical Society on the security of the 1971 Census in mid-September. We are arranging for the publication, in due course, of a report on the societies' findings and the Government's comments on them.
Exceptional Needs Grants
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in
| NUMBER (IN THOUSANDS) OF EXCEPTIONAL NEEDS PAYMENTS 1968–72 (OCTOBER) | |||||||||
| Region | 1968 | 1969 | 1970 | 1971 | 1972 (January October only) | ||||
| Northern | … | … | … | … | 44·0 | 49·2 | 53·6 | 54·7 | 58·5 |
| Yorkshire and Humberside | … | 44·6 | 48·0 | 55·5 | 54·2 | 56·7 | |||
| East Midlands and East Anglia | … | 29·0 | 28·9 | 32·3 | 33·2 | 37·4 | |||
| London North | … | … | … | 41·2 | 40·8 | 45·2 | 46·0 | 50·2 | |
| London South | … | … | … | 36·1 | 40·0 | 45·8 | 43·9 | 46·5 | |
| London West | … | … | … | 24·9 | 26·2 | 30·6 | 33·0 | 35·8 | |
| South-Western | … | … | … | 34·2 | 33·8 | 37·5 | 36·7 | 38·6 | |
| West Midland | … | … | … | 44·6 | 46·8 | 55·0 | 58·7 | 65·0 | |
| North-Western Manchester | … | 29·5 | 34·4 | 43·4 | 48·8 | 54·2 | |||
| North-Western Merseyside | … | 35·8 | 40·8 | 48·0 | 49·9 | 54·3 | |||
| England—Total | … | … | … | 364·0 | 388·9 | 446·8 | 459·2 | 497·2 | |
| Wales | … | … | … | … | 49·4 | 51·4 | 47·6 | 41·2 | 40·7 |
| Scotland | … | … | … | … | 56·9 | 60·1 | 65·4 | 75·4 | 87·1 |
| Great Britain—Total | … | … | 470·3 | 500·4 | 559·9 | 575·8 | 625·0 | ||
| Period—months | … | … | … | 12 | 12 | 12 | 12 | 10 | |
Social Workers (Training)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the number of social workers at present under training, and the estimated annual need and wastage.
| Number in post on 31st December 1971 | Wastage rate 1971 Per cent | Recruitment rate 1971 Per cent | |||||||
| Local authority social workers (England and Wales) | … | … | … | … | … | … | 9,596 | 10·9 | 20·0 |
| Hospital social workers (Great Britain) | … | 1,913 | 23·9 | 17·0 | |||||
Trade And Industry
Electricity Supply Industry (Wage Award)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the cash equivalent of the recent award negotiated in the electricity supply industry after taking into account the adjustments for changes in working conditions; and how this compares with the £2/£2·60 mentioned in the Downing Street statement of 26th September.
the OFFICIAL REPORT a detailed regional breakdown of exceptional needs grants paid to claimants over each of the last five years; and if he will include information on the number of people covered by the grants.
Following is the information available:
At the beginning of 1972 some 2,750 students, other than probation students, were under training in England and Wales on courses leading to the Certificate of Qualification in Social Work. A survey undertaken for the Butterworth Inquiry into the Work and Pay of Probation Officers and Social Workers obtained the following figures:
The Electricity Council estimates that the initial increase of £2·65 and the subsequent increase of 40p will lead to an increase in average weekly earnings per head of about £3·60 averaged over the 18 months covered by the settlement. It is not possible to quantify the other elements of the settlement in terms of average weekly earnings.
Rolls-Royce
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will make a statement indicaing the relationship between his Department and the management of Rolls-Royce and the extent to which his consent is required in decision-making.
The Government as sole shareholder have placed responsibility for the management of the company on the board of directors.
Offshore Oil And Gas (Exploitation)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he intends to publish the report of the study being carried out by the International Management and Engineering Group of Great Britain into the market for goods and services required for the exploitation of offshore oil and gas.
Yes. The report has been received, but as it contains confidential information relating to individual firms the consultants are assisting in preparing a version suitable for publication.
Thermography (Air-Sea Rescue Services)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what studies his Deparment has undertaken, or is undertaking, into the uses of thermography in air-sea rescue services.
None, but I am making further inquiries with a view to deciding whether such studies might be usefully undertaken.
Wales
Rent Rebates
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many tenants in Wales to date are in receipt of rent rebates under the Housing Finance Act, 1972, exclusive of those tenants who were previously in receipt of rent assistance from the Supplementary Benefits Commission; and what proportion this is of the total number of tenants.
Local authorities are not required to notify me how many tenants receive rent rebates. Figures relating to rebates under the Act will in due course be available from IMTA statistics.
Ports (Study)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the nature of the study of the Welsh ports at present being conducted by the Transport and Communications Panel of the Welsh Council; when he expects to receive its report; and if he will make a statement.
I understand that the study will cover the facilities of the Welsh ports and an assessment of their future prospects. The timing of the report is a matter for the Welsh Council to decide.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Apples
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will bring in a Bill to give himself power to control the price of apples.
I would refer the hon. Member to paragraph 7 of the White Paper, "A Programme for Controlling Inflation: The First Stage", (Cmnd. 5125), which sets out the Government's proposals in relation to prices of fresh foods such as fruit and vegetables during the period of the standstill.
Butter
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to ensure that British firms will be allowed to continue blending butter after 14th January, 1973.
There is no regulation to prevent the manufacture of blended butter when the United Kingdom becomes a member of the European Economic Community in January, 1973. Any proposal which might affect this in the future will be the subject of negotiation.
National Finance
Ministers (Salaries And Expenses)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give a detailed list in the OFFICIAL REPORT of the salaries now paid to the various Ministers; what additional payments or expenses they receive in the way of cars, telephones, homes, and living away from home expenses; and whether when engaged on official lunches and dinners, any costs are deducted for the same.
As regards the first part of the Question, the information is given in the table below.I regret that the information for which the hon. Member asks in the second part of the Question is not readily available and could not be obtained without disproportionate expenditure of time and money. Ministers have the use of official cars, etc. to enable them to carry out their official duties; and are paid travelling and subsistence expenses at the rate appropriate to senior civil servants. Subsistence allowance is not paid when a meal is provided.
| Ministerial Office | Salary £ |
| Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury, and Minister for the Civil Service | 20,000 |
| Secretary of State for the Home Department | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs | 13,000 |
| Lord Chancellor | 20,000 |
| Chancellor of the Exchequer | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Northern Ireland | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Defence | 13,000 |
| Lord President of the Council | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Social Services | 13,000 |
| Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Education and Science | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Scotland | 13,000 |
| Lord Privy Seal | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for the Environment | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Wales | 13,000 |
| Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Trade and Industry | 13,000 |
| Secretary of State for Employment | 13,000 |
| Minister for Trade and Consumer Affairs | 9,500 |
| Paymaster General | 9,500 |
| Minister for Overseas Development | 9,500 |
| Minister for Housing and Construction | 9,500 |
| Minister for Transport Industries | 9,500 |
| Minister for Local Government and Development | 9,500 |
| Minister for Industrial Development | 9,500 |
| Minister of Posts and Telecommunications | 9,500 |
| Minister for Industry | 9,500 |
| Minister for Aerospace | 9,500 |
| Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office (three) | 9,500 |
| Minister of State, for Defence | 9,500 |
| Minister of State, Department of Health and Social Security | 9,500 |
| Chief Secretary to the Treasury | 9,500 |
| Parliamentary Secretary to the Treasury | 9,500 |
| Financial Secretary to the Treasury | 7,500 |
| Minister of State, Treasury | 7,500 |
| Minister of State, Home Office | 9,500 |
| Minister of State, Home Office | 7,500 |
| Minister of State, Welsh Office | 7,500 |
| Minister of State, Northern Ireland Office | 9,500 |
| Minister of State, Northern Ireland Office (two) | 7,500 |
| Minister of State, Department of Employment | 7,500 |
| Minister of State, Scottish Office | 9,500 |
| Minister of State, Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | 7,500 |
| Minister Without Portfolio | 9,500 |
Parliamentary Secretaries
| |
| Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | 5,500 |
| Civil Service Department (two) | 5,500 |
| Ministry of Defence (three) | 5,500 |
| Department of Education and Science (two) | 5,500 |
| Department of Employment | 5,500 |
| Department of the Environment (four) | 5,500 |
| Foreign and Commonwealth Office | 5,500 |
| Foreign and Commonwealth Office (Overseas Development) | 5,500 |
| Department of Health and Social Security (two) | 5,500 |
| Home Office | 5,500 |
| Northern Ireland Office | 5,500 |
| Scottish Office (three) | 5,500 |
| Department of Trade and Industry (four) | 5,500 |
Law Officers
| |
| Attorney General | 14,500 |
| Lord Advocate | 11,000 |
| Solicitor General | 11,000 |
| Solicitor General for Scotland* | 7,750 |
Government Whips
| |
| Junior Lord of the Treasury (five) | 4,000 |
| Assistant Whip (five) | 4,000 |
| Treasurer of the Household | 5,000 |
| Comptroller of the Household | 4,000 |
| Vice-Chamberlain of the Household | 4,000 |
| Captain of the Honourable Corps of Gentlemen-at-Arms | 6,500 |
| Captain of the Queen's Bodyguard of the Yeoman of the Guard | 5,000 |
| Lord in Waiting (five) | 4,500 |
*Not a Member of Parliament. |
NOTES:
(i) Ministers who are Members of the House of Commons receive a Parliamentary salary of £3,000 a year.
(ii) Ministers who are Members of the House of Commons are entitled to claim the Members' allowance for secretarial assistance of up to £1,000 a year.
(iii) Ministers, with the exception of those who are provided with an official residence, receive a supplementary London allowance at the rate of £175 a year.
(iv) Ministers in the House of Commons are entitled to claim an allowance of up to £750 a year in respect of expenses incurred by them, as Members, in staying overnight away from their main residence for the purpose of performing their Parliamentary duties.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Brazil (British Assets)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations have been made by Her Majesty's Government to the Government of Brazil to ensure that British interests in companies whose assets have been taken over by the Brazilian Government are protected; and what replies have been received.
Her Majesty's Government have frequently expressed to the Brazilian Government their concern over the outstanding claims by British investors for compensation in respect of assets taken over by the Brazilian authorities. The Brazilian Government have agreed to discuss these matters with representatives of the claimants in Brazil on 16th November.
Napalm
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will press for a treaty to outlaw the use of napalm.
The United Nations Secretary General made public in October an expert report on napalm and other incendiary weapons which is currently under discussion in the General Assembly. The report is now being studied by the Government, and I cannot anticipate the outcome at this stage.
Rudolf Hess And Spandau Prison
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) if he will raise the question of the detention of Rudolf Hess at Spandau prison during the current Four Power talks in Berlin and indicate what steps are being taken to secure his release;(2) if he will raise the question of the future of Spandau Prison during the current Four-Power talks in Berlin.
The Four Power talks in Berlin which were concluded on 5th November were concerned with the negotiation of a Quadripartite Declaration affirming that Four Power rights and responsibilities would be unaffected by Federal German and East German entry into the United Nations. There was no discussion of the case of Rudolf Hess or Spandau. But the Soviet Government are, of course, in no doubt about the views of Her Majesty's Government on these matters.