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Volume 846: debated on Tuesday 21 November 1972

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday, 21st November, 1972

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

National Farmers' Union (Discussions)

12.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in view of the effects on the National Farmers' Unions in their relations with their members in co-operating with him in giving advice, in particular in relation to the operation of restrictive trade practices legislation in respect of food supply, and the length of time that discussions zhave been continuing, whether he will now make a statement on this matter.

This is an extremely complex subject and the discussions with the National Farmers' Union are still in progress. We are concentrating on the marketing aspects and are paying particular attention to the possible types of organisation outlined in the Green Paper on Agricultural and Horticultural Marketing.

Hill Farming

19.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will continue the practice of paying hill sheep and hill cattle subsidies on the total number of breeding ewes and cattle.

My Department will continue to pay subsidy on eligible breeding animals in flocks and herds which qualify under the hill livestock subsidy schemes.

28.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will extend the special hill rates of grant to include provision of all farm buildings, including houses for farm workers on hill land.

No. Grant at the normal rates is available for this purpose in the hill areas as elsewhere. I do not consider that there is a case for differential rates.

30.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food in what form and in what way the hill farming production grants will be paid after the United Kingdom's entry into the European Economic Community; and whether European Agricultural Guidance and Guarantee Fund funds will be available for this purpose.

We see no reason to change the hill livestock subsidies. As with all subsidies, they will be reviewed from time to time in the light of circumstances. The availability of FEOGA funds has not yet been decided by the Community, but we shall be able to take a full part in the decision.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce additional provisions to help hill farmers with such matters as improvement of farmhouses, mechanisation, and winter keep subsidy, on the lines adopted by the French Government, details of which are in his possession.

There is no reason at present to think that those measures would be an improvement on our existing arrangements which have been designed to suit circumstances in this country. The subject of aid for mountain areas is, however, due to be considered by the EEC in the near future, and the case for any new provisions can be examined in that context.

Agricultural Land (Use)

20.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to resist the use of good agricultural land in hill areas or elsewhere for reservoirs and to promote desalination, and underground and barrage storage schemes.

In accordance with general Government policy for safeguarding agricultural land my right hon. Friend will continue, in consultation with his right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment, to ensure so far as possible that good agricultural land is not taken for reservoirs when land of a lower quality is available. The Government are investigating all possible alternative methods of water conservation.

European Economic Community

21.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take action designed to secure the amendment of the regulations controlling the sale of apples in the European Economic Community, to take account of the requirements of British producers of culinary apples.

Yes, this is one of the matters we shall be discussing further with the Commission. Finding a solution may take some time but meanwhile growers will continue to find a market for Bramleys even though they have to pay regard to the requirements of the particular classes.

59.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects a conclusion to the negotiations with the European Economic Community on compensatory payments for poultry and meat; and if he will make a statement.

Discussions about compensatory amounts are now in progress with a view to reaching agreements as soon as possible. It is difficult to give a precise forecast at this stage.

Iceland (Fishing Limit)

23.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the effect of the 50-mile limit off Iceland on the fish landings in the United Kingdom and its effect on fish prices.

There has been no change in the position since my reply to the hon. Member's Question on this subject on 17th October.—[Vol. 843, c. 10–11.]

Food Prices

24.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has made of food price increases due to seasonal causes at Christmas.

It is not possible to give a precise estimate, but it is usual for the normal seasonal increase in demand for certain fresh foodstuffs during the pre-Christmas period to increase the prices of the items in question.

26.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a further statement on meat prices.

58.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what arrangements he is making to stabilise beef prices.

The White Paper, (Cmnd. 5125), recognises that the price of meat—together with other fresh foods—is subject to fluctuations arising from external or seasonal causes and that changes in retail prices may thus be necessary. But distributors are required not to increase their cash margins during the standstill.

32.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has made of the success of the measures he has taken in respect of food prices which fluctuate because of external or seasonal causes.

I have no evidence that the changes in prices of fresh foods such as meat and vegetables since 6th November are inconsistent with the principles set out in the White Paper "A Programme for Controlling Inflation" (Cmnd. 5125).

33.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will urge all foodshops to publish for display a list of the prices of food commodities existing on Monday, 6th November, 1972.

I would refer the hon Member to the reply I gave to the hon Member for Manchester, Gorton (Mr. Marks) yesterday.

37.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what machinery has been established in his Department to vet food price increases; how many staff are involved; and how many cases they have dealt with so far.

Notifications by the public of apparent price increases will be checked with the manufacturer or trader in order to establish whether or not the increase should have been made. Requests by manufacturers or others for price increases will be carefully scrutinised in order to determine whether in exceptional cases consent should be given.A Food Prices Unit with 26 staff has been established at the Ministry's headquarters, and scrutiny of many individual cases is being devolved to local staff. About 1,900 inquiries from the trade and public have been dealt with or are currently being followed up.

38.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the operation to date of the Government's policies to maintain a freeze on prices since 6th November; and if he will make a statement.

My Department has been in close touch with the various sections of the food industry and all have promised their full co-operation in observing the principles set out in the White Paper.

60.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the percentage increase in the price of meat since June, 1970.

The following table shows the percentage increases in the average prices collected for the purposes of the Index of Retail Food Prices between 16th June, 1970, and 17th October, 1972, the latest date for which information is available:

ItemPercentage Increase in Average Price
Beef: Home-killed
Chuck36·5
Sirloin (without bone)40·8
Silverside(without bone)*33·9
Back ribs (with bone)*40·3
Fore ribs (with bone)38·6
Brisket (with bone)48·4
Rump steak*37·4
Beef: Imported, chilled
Chuck47·3
Silverside (without bone)*37·6
Rump steak*29·0
Lamb: Home-killed
Loin (with bone)26·6
Breast*20·5
Best end of neck22·5
Shoulder (with bone)15·8
Leg (with bone)21·6
Lamb: Imported
Loin (with bone)46·9
Breast*47·6
Best end of neck43·8
Shoulder (with bone)40·0
Lee (with bone)39·9
ItemPercentage Increase in Average Price
Pork: Home-killed
Leg (foot off)26·1
Belly*24·3
Loin (with bone)28·1
Other meat
Pork sausages19·1
Beef sausages27·1
Roasting chicken(broiler) frozen (3 lb.)16·4
Roasting chicken, fresh or chilled (4 lb. oven-ready)12·3
Pork luncheon meat, 12 oz. tin5·9
Ham, cooked12·5
Bacon
Collar*19·4
Gammon*21·4
Middle cut*, smoked27·8
Back, smoked34·1
Back, unsmoked32·8
Streaky, smoked26·8

Woodlands (Dedication)

29.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his policy towards the dedication of woodlands; and if he will make a statement.

It is too early to say. Discussions with the Forestry Committee of Great Britain and other interests are in progress following publication of the Government's recent consultative document. Meantime existing commitments under the dedication scheme are being honoured and I welcome this opportunity to reaffirm that these existing commitments will not be disturbed in any way.

Apples (Import)

31.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, in view of the shtortage of apples due to poor British crops, he will ease import licensing to allow better supplies in the shops.

I understand that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry hopes to make an announcement tomorrow.

67.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to publish details of the compensatory levies on apple imports from other member countries of the enlarged European Economic Community.

The Commission of the European Economic Community still has to put forward proposals. I regret that I cannot yet say when decisions will be taken, but we have continued to urge on the Commission the need for speed.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will confirm that the present quota arrangements on apple imports will remain at least until the imposition of the new compensatory levies.

Apple imports will remain subject to quota only until the system of compensatory amounts is introduced. The level of quotas is at present under urgent review.

Cereal Marketing

35.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the possibility of changes in the United Kingdom cereal marketing arrangements agreed in Brussels to operate from 1st February, 1973, in view of the fact that threshold prices for imported grain are several pounds a ton below the forward feed prices being paid; and if he will relate his statement to the effects this will have on consumer prices.

Decisions have not yet been taken in Brussels as to how the relevant provisions of the Act of Accession should be applied in such a case. Her Majesty's Government will naturally have regard to the effects on consumer prices.

Sugar

36.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has made of the amount of sugar produced in the current season from sugar beet grown in the United Kingdom.

The British Sugar Corporation's present estimate of the yield from the 1972 crop is equivalent to 862,000 tons of refined sugar.

Farm Amalgamation Scheme

39.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the working of the Farm Amalgamation Scheme; and if he will make a statement.

The farm structure schemes have been of some value but they need to be made more effective. We therefore intend to introduce impoved schemes next year using the new powers in the Agriculture (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, 1972. The new schemes will also give effect to the EEC directive on payments to outgoers and we are in consultation with the Community on this.

Animals (Quarantine)

40.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what evidence he has of the extent of shipping of live animals from overseas through United Kingdom ports of entry, thus evading the quarantine regulations for such beasts; and how many prosecutions have been instituted for such offences in the past year.

I have no evidence of evasion of quarantine regulations for farm animals shipped through British ports; no prosecutions have been instituted in the past year. Local authorities have reported 13 prosecutions for unlicensed landings of animals subject to rabies control.

Intensive Units (Fire Precautions)

43 and 63.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) whether, having regard to the 55 major outbreaks of fire in intensive units last year in addition to a number of small fires, he will introduce statutory regulations making night watchmen compulsory where housed stock is left unattended overnight;(2) whether, in view of the number of outbreaks of fire in intensive units in 1971, he will introduce statutory regulations requiring everyone keeping livestock to have a licence and all stock buildings to be of approved standard with adequate fire precautions and alarms.

No, I do not consider that it would be either desirable or practicable to enforce such requirements. The Farm Animal Welfare Advisory Committee has the need for the mandatory provision of fire precautions and alarms under consideration, and I shall carefully consider any advice I receive from it.

Slaughterhouses

44.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement expanding on the letter his Department wrote to Manchester Corporation on the subject of standards of hygiene in public slaughterhouses indicating which of the regulations referred to in the European Economic Community directive dealing with standards of hygiene in public slaughterhouses he believes would be impracticable or unjustifiably costly to introduce to this country.

The EEC directive applies to intra-Community trade and for this purpose applies equally to public and to private slaughterhouses. The main requirements which the Government consider would be either impracticable or unjustifiably costly if applied generally to the domestic trade are the complete separation of pig slaughtering lines from other slaughtering lines and the provision of a separate casualty slaughterhall, and special bays for the cleansing and disinfection of vehicles.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if British slaughterhouses are up to the standard required under the regulations of the European Economic Community.

Those of our slaughterhouses approved for intra-Community trade comply with the directive but others are not required to.

Artificial Meat (Restaurants And Canteens)

45.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce regulations to ensure that customers are informed when artificial meat is used in restaurants and canteens.

Legislation already in force provides general safeguards. The Food Standards Committee is currently reviewing the use of unconventional proteins in food and will be considering the need for more specific regulations.

Wines

46.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the situation facing wine importers and vendors within the United Kingdom with respect to the date at which European Economic Community draft regulations on accompanying documentation and labelling of wines will become operative and the effect of which this will have upon importation, removal from bond and sale in the United Kingdom of wines which do not comply with the French nomenclature rules.

Dates for the operation of these regulations have not yet been determined, nor has the labelling regulation yet been adopted. It is normal for Community legislation to provide an interval between the dates of adoption and of operation. Until the latter date is settled in discussions in which the United Kingdom is participating, it would be premature to take a view on whether any longer period of derogation will need to be sought in order to deal with existing stocks.

64.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the situation affecting wine importers and vendors within the United Kingdom with respect to the date at which European Economic Community regulation No. 816/70 will become operative and the effect which this will have upon importation, removal from bond and sale in the United Kingdom, of wines which do not comply with the French nomenclature rules.

EEC regulation No. 816/70 will be effective in the United Kingdom from 1st February, 1973, subject to any limited period of delay for administrative purposes to be agreed with the Commission. This regulation will not, in isolation, have any significant effect on nomenclature.

Farm Price Review

47.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will define the precise scope of the 1973 Annual Farm Price Review and the extent to which increased costs for the current year will be taken into account.

As foreshadowed in the 1972 White Paper, the review will be extended to include a fuller examination of some commodities and economic aspects, with particular reference to the scope of the common agricultural policy of the EEC. As for costs, I cannot anticipate the findings of the review, but all relevant factors will be taken into account.

Intervention Board (Chairman)

48.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why he appointed Sir Con O'Neill as Chairman of the Government's new Intervention Board; why he gave this information to the Press before the House of Commons; why Sir Con O'Neill is to receive a salary between £7,000 and £8,000 per annum; and what duties he will have to perform.

No firm appointments to the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce have been either made or announced as yet nor can they be before the order, setting up the board, becomes operative. It would not be appropriate to make any announcement about tentative or provisional arrangements, and no such announcement to the Press has been made.

Brucellosis Scheme

49.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the operation

ENGLAND AND WALES
(a)(b)
Numbers—Thousands Regular Whole-TimeEarnings—£ per Week Regular Whole-Time Hired
YearMalesFemalesTotalMenYouthsAll Females
1966271·822·9294·714·088·548·72
1967258·021·1279·114·768·959·53
1968243·119·4262·515·509·149·57
1969231·018·8249·816·619·8910·38
1970195·422·2217·617·9510·9611·30
1971190·023·5213·519·7011·9012·71
1972189·022·2211·222·0813·4215·44
Sources:
(a) June Agricultural Census. Numbers for 1970 onwards are not directly comparable with earlier years because:
1. They include managerial and clerical workers previously excluded.
2. "Whole-time" has now been specifically defined as 40 hours or more per week, and
3. Junior partners previously returned as regular whole-time male workers are now returned as farmers partners and directors.
(b) The wages and employment enquiry. Earnings relate to a July-June year.
Notes:
1. Total earnings include overtime, piecework, bonuses, premiums and perquisites valued, where applicable, in accordance with the Agricultural Wages Orders. Men are defined as 20 years old and over.
2. Earnings for July-June years do not reflect the full effect of the Agricultural Wages Board awards effective earlier in the year.

of the Brucellosis Scheme; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. My right hon. Friend is satisfied that the programme is operating successfully. In Great Britain as a whole more than 70,000 herd owners have joined the voluntary schemes; in the initial eradication areas only 125 or so of the 10,000 herds involved are left to be dealt with under the compulsory measures introduced on 1st November. In some areas, of which South Cardiganshire is one, every herd is in one of the voluntary schemes.

Farm Workers

50.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many farm workers were employed in England and Wales for the years 1966 to 1972, and what were their average wages in those years.

The number of regular whole-time hired and family male workers employed in agriculture in England and Wales at June were 271,800 in 1966 and 189,000 in 1972. The average total weekly earnings for regular whole-time hired men and youths for the year ending June were, respectively, £14·08 and £8·54 in 1966 and £22·08 and £13·42 in 1972.The figures for the intervening years are as follows:

Fishing (European Beam Trawlers)

51.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to protect those fishing from ports in the South Coast of the United Kingdom from beam trawlers based on European ports.

An order banning the use of large beam trawls within the 12-mile limit was made earlier this year, and provision for fisheries protection by the Royal Navy is being increased by 50 per cent.

Fish Friers (Publicity Levy)

52.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has received from the National Federation of Fish Friers in connection with his proposal to discontinue the publicity levy scheme; and if he will make a statement.

The federation has written asking that the scheme should continue. This request is being considered along with the other representations that have been received as part of the formal consultation procedure laid down in the relevant Act.

Production Grants

53.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is satisfied that the production grants, such as the grant for bracken eradication, are achieving their intended purposes; and if he will make a statement.

Yes, I think the Farm Capital Grant Scheme is well designed to meet present requirements

Animals (Transport For Slaughter)

55.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food which country, or countries, are exporting live animals to this country for slaughter.

Co-Operative Marketing (Hill Areas)

56.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has for the encouragement of co-operative marketing in the hill areas with additional Government funds.

Aid is already available for worthwhile co-operative marketing projects in the hill areas both under the agricultural and horticultural co-operation scheme and from the central council for agricultural and horticultural co-operation's marketing fund.

Butter Stocks

65.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of the butter stocks held in the United Kingdom at the latest convenient date.

On 3rd November, 1972, total stocks in public cold stores in the United Kingdom were 75,400 tons.

Stubble Burning

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what discussions he is having with the National Farmers' Union on the burning of stubble;(2) if he will seek to have discussions with the National Farmers' Union on the question of the effect of stubble-burning on animal life, and on improved publicity among fanners of the revised straw-burning code.

Together with representatives of other interested organisations, we will be discussing with the National Farmers' Union on 23rd November ways in which the union's Code of Practice for Straw Burning can be made more effective, with the aim of avoiding risks of damage or nuisance and of preserving the wild life of the countryside.

Contract Farming

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what timetable he has in mind for implementing the recommendations of the Committee on Contract Farming, which has reported to him.

The Government have already announced that they accept the committee's judgment of contract farming and that producer groups and second-tier groups need developing. On the specific recommendation that there should be a new statutory body the Green Paper on Agricultural and Horticultural Marketing (Cmnd. 5121) invites views from the industry, and we shall take a decision in the light of those views.—[Vol. 842, c. 98–9.]

Price Freeze (Telephone Calls)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many telephone calls his Department has received on the price freeze hot line service.

4,327 telephone calls have been received at the Ministry's headquarters and local offices. Of these 2,357 have been inquiries from consumers and 1,970 from the trade.

Dutch Elm Disease

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what records his Department keeps of the numbers of trees affected by the outbreak of Dutch elm disease; how many of these have been felled; and how many elm trees have been injected or otherwise treated to safeguard them against the disease;(2) if he will publish a map indicating visually the spread and incidence, by estimated proportion of the trees affected, of the outbreak of Dutch elm disease in England and Wales.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave him and others earlier today.

Beef Exports

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to stop or restrict beef exports from Great Britain.

Although I am concerned about the general shortage of beef supplies, I do not believe that a restriction on exports would necessarily provide an answer.

Fishery Protection

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take steps to increase surveillance and protection of British inshore waters and fishermen with effect from 1st January, 1973, with regard to the size, mobility and speed of fishery protection units; and if he will make a statement.

My hon. Friend the former Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Royal Navy announced on 20th January the measures that would be taken to increase the effort deployed by the Services on coastal fishery protection.—[Vol. 829, c. 651–2.]

Remote Farms (Access)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take steps to make it easier for vehicles to reach remote hill farms.

We already provide grants for improving private farm roads and unadopted access roads under the Farm Capital Grant Scheme; for roads serving hill land the rate of grant is 50 per cent. of the cost. Local highway authorities are responsible for the maintenance and improvement of unclassified roads, and they decide their priorities in the light of local need.

National Finance

Value Added Tax

68.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received from non-profit making clubs, societies, and associations concerned at the consequences to and continuing viability of the imposition of the addition of the value added tax to their subscriptions; and whether he is prepared to consider modifications.

I have received a number of such representations. This matter was fully debated during the Report stage of the Finance Bill and I see no reason to modify the views which were expressed by my hon. Friend the Chief Secretary on that occasion.—[Vol. 840, c. 1760–3.]

European Economic Community

69.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government towards the Community legislation to harmonise the rates of taxes on capital formation; what discussions have taken place with the Community on the 1969 directive; and whether he will make a statement on these discussions.

We accept the principle that there should be the greatest possible degree of harmonisation. We have asked for the merger relief provided by the 1969 directive to be amended to cover mergers by exchange of shares; the Commission has now published a draft directive which would, if adopted, have this effect.

Close Companies (Dividends)

70.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will instruct the, Inland Revenue to cease issuing surtax directions to close companies in order to restrain dividend increases in line with the Counter-Inflation (Temporary Provisions) Bill.

No. Close companies will be exempted from dividend restraint only in so far as dividends have to be paid to avoid a shortfall assessment. They do not have freedom to increase their

Weekly wage£35£40
ABAB
Married man, no children26·6622·4529·8222·40
Married man, 1 child under 1127·8625·5531·1725·60
Married man, 2 children under 1129·3628·3032·6728·25
Married man, 3 children under 1130·8631·0034·1230·95
Married man, 4 children under 1132·4133·5535·7233·50
Column A shows the man's take home pay when at work for week 40 of the tax year.
Column B shows his total income from unemployment benefit including earnings-related supplement and income tax refunds for week 42 on the assumption that that is his third consecutive week of unemployment.
The figures take account of the family allowances, where appropriate, and the National Insurance, including earnings-related supplement, contributions.The take-home pay when out of work exceeds the take-home pay when at work only in the cases of a married man with either three or four children earning £35 per week and the maximum number of weeks for which this can happen is 16 and 14, respectively.

Purchase Tax (Retailers' Stocks)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish details of the records Customs and Excise will require retailers to keep, to enable them to get credit for the purchase tax elements in stocks held on 31st March, 1973.

Details of the rebate scheme for unsold purchase tax-paid stocks will be published by Customs and Excise as soon as possible. Traders should preserve their suppliers' invoices for purchase tax goods for resale which dividends at will. I see no reason to suspend measures designed solely to discourage the avoidance of tax.

Pay And Benefits

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will tabulate a comparison of the take-home pay when at work and the take-home pay when out of work of a married man earning £35 and £40 per week, respectively, with none to four children under 11 years of age, and state how many weeks of the year the take-home pay when out of work could exceed the take-home pay when at work.

The figures will vary according to which week of the tax year is taken. For week 42, the answer is as follows:may be in stock on 31st March, 1973, and related stock records.

Tax Credits (Method Of Payment)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what consideration he is giving to use of the Post Office Giro system in relation to the proposed tax credit scheme.

If it is decided to pay some or all child credits to mothers the method of payment of these credits will need to be considered. The Green Paper proposes that other credits should be paid by employers, or, where national insurance benefits are payable, by the Department of Health and Social Security or Department of Employment.

Tax Collection (Use Of Giro)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will arrange with Customs and Excise that the Post Office Giro system acts as collection agent for all payments.

Facilities will be provided for the payment of value added tax through the Post Office Giro system. There has been little demand for this in relation to other Customs and Excise revenue.

Employment

Sheltered Workshops (Blind Persons)

71.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will change his policy of refusing certain unemployed registered blind persons employment in sheltered workshops, where there are plans available for them, on the grounds that they are suitable for other employment when in practice they cannot obtain other employment.

Section 15 of the Disabled Persons (Employment) Act, 1944, clearly defines those categories of disabled people who are eligible for employment in sheltered workshops. My right hon. Friend's policies are directed towards securing for blind and other disabled people employment opportunities best suited to their individual abilities and skills.

North Sea Oil

72.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs he estimates are now in prospect in Scot land in relation to the exploration and exploitation of North Sea oil.

Since employers are still formulating their plans, any estimate of the additional jobs which will arise from activities connected with North Sea oil must be subject to appreciable margins of error. However, we are aware of various expansions which are expected to increase employment on such activities from its present total of around 2,500 to about 8,000 within the next three or four years. This figure could increase considerably. In addition there will be substantial employment in supplying firms and as a result of infrastructure investment in support of North Sea oil activities.

Training Centres (Unfilled Places)

73.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he is taking to reduce the number of places unfilled in Government training centres in the Northern Region, in view of the fact that the places unfilled represent 18 per cent. of the total available places compared with 14 per cent. a year ago.

I would refer the right hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for The Hartlepools (Mr. Leadbitter) on 16th November, 1972.—[Vol. 846, c. 212–13.]

Community Industry Scheme (Mexborough)

74.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will state the amount of money spent on the Community Industry Scheme functioning in the Mexborough and District area up to the last available date; and if he will make a statement on the future plans for this scheme.

The total expenditure on Community Industry in Mexborough up to 30th September, 1972, was £15,338. This includes a proportion of the cost of running Community Industry's headquarters.A report recommending an expansion of the scheme has been submitted to my right hon. Friend by the National Association of Youth Clubs and this is being sympathetically considered.

Construction Industry (Safety)

75.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will have consultations with employers of labour in the construction industry designed to secure greater cognisance among them of safety measures, in view of the criticisms contained in the report of the Chief Inspector of Factories.

Consultations with both employers and trades unions take place from time to time on my right hon. Friend's Joint Advisory Committee for the Construction Industries.Two sub-committees are at present preparing two reports, one on the collapse of scaffolds and the other on health and asbestos.Apart from these activities, there are frequent

ad hoc consultations between representatives of my Department and employers' associations including the National Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors.

I can assure the hon. Member that we have not lost sight of the points made in the chief inspector's report.

Coal Miners (County Durham)

76.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many coal miners are at present unemployed in the Consett, Stanley, Lanchester travel-to-work area; how many are over 55 years of age; and how many have been unemployed for more than one, two and three years, respectively.

At 9th October 533 males who last worked in coal mining were registered as unemployed in the area covered by the Consett, Stanley and Lanchester employment exchanges. There is no age analysis of this figure by a special quarterly return in September of colliery workers unemployed through the contraction of the coal mining industry showed that 422 such workers, including 405 aged 55 and over, were unemployed in this area. I regret that information showing how long these workers have been unemployed is not available.

Retail Price Index

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list all major prices comprised in the retail price index, other than food, as at 6th November, 1972.

I regret that the information is not available. Although the Department collects each month about 30,000 prices for items other than food, average prices for many of these items would not be meaningful because of variations in quality, and in fact average prices are not calculated for items other than food.

Nationalised Industries

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the number of employees of the National Coal Board, the Gas Council, the Electricity Council, British Rail and the British Steel Corporation at the latest month for which figures are available, and for the comparable months in 1971 and 1970.

My Department's employment statistics are analysed by industry using Minimum List Headings of the Standard Industrial Classification. It is not my Department's practice to compile details for individual organisations. I would therefore refer my hon. Friend to the organisations' published reports which give information about the numbers employed.

Manufacturing And Service Industries (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many men were employed in the service industries in Scotland in 1945, 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966, 1970 and at the last available date;(2) how many men were employed in the manufacturing industries in Scotland, in 1945, 1955, 1959, 1964, 1966. 1970 and at the last available date.

The following table shows estimates of the numbers of male employees in employment in Scotland from June, 1959. Owing to substantial changes in classification, estimates prior to that are not comparable.

Manufacturing* industries(Thousands Services* industries
June, 1959489·6501·6
June, 1964—
(i)†489·2514·5
(ii)†490·5512·8
June, 1966—
(i)‡499·0500·8
(ii)‡512·1495·8
June, 1969—
(i)§502·6479·2
(ii)§502·6482·6
June, 1970499·6481·0
June, 1971471·2475·8
* The industry groups included in the table are:—
Standard Industrial ClassificationManufacturing industriesService industries
OrderOrder
1958 editionIII—XVIXIX—XXIV
1968 editionIII—XIXXXII—XXVII
† Estimates for June, 1964 (ii) onwards are on a revised basis of calculation and are not strictly comparable with those for June, 1964 (i) and earlier dates.
‡ Between June, 1966 and June, 1967, the industrial classifications of many establishments were corrected. The estimates for June, 1966 are shown on both bases, that is (i) excluding and (ii) including the effects of re-classifications.
§ The estimates for June, 1969 (ii) onwards include improved information about the location of employees in the distributive trades, and are based on the 1968 edition of the Standard Industrial Classification instead of the 1958 edition as previously.

International Labour Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish a list of the member States of the International Labour Organisation, indicating those states taking membership in the period since 1962; and if he will detail

INTERNATIONAL LABOUR ORGANISATION
STATEMENT OF CONTRIBUTIONS DUE FROM MEMBER STATES FOR 1972–73
(In United States Dollars)
MEMBER STATES MARKED * JOINED THE I.L.O. AFTER 1ST JANUARY, 1962
State (French alphabetical order)Percentage 1972Net contribution 1972 (1)Percentage 1973Net contribution 1973 (1)
Afghanistan0·0724,3860·0620,902
Algeria*0·1241,8040·1241,805
Federal Republic of Germany5·341,860,2965·681,978,742
United Arab Republic0·2794,0600·2587,093
United Arab Emirates0·06 (2)20,902 (2)
Argentina1·26438,9461·18411,077
Australia1·83637,5171·83637,517
Austria0·44153,2830·46160,250
Bangladesh*0·06(2)20,902 (2)
Barbados0·0724,3860·0620,902
Belgium1·35470,2991·35470,300
Byelorussia0·45156,7660·46160,250
Burma0·0724,3860·0620,902
Bolivia0·0724,3860·0620,902
Brazil1·20418,0441·12390,175
Bulgaria0·1966,1900·1966,191
Burundi*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Cameroon0·0724,3860·0620,902
Canada3·361,170,5233·361,170,523
Central African Republic0·0724,3860·0620,902
Ceylon0·0724,3860·0620,902
Chile0·30104,5110·2897,544
China3·171,104,3333·361,170,523
Cyprus0·0724,3860·0620,902
Colombia0·2897,5440·2794,060
Congo (Democratic Republic)0·0724,3860·0620,902
Congo (People's Republic)0·0724,3860·0620,902
Costa Rica0·0724,3860·0620,902
Ivory Coast0·0724,3860·0620,902
Cuba0·2483,6090·2276,642
Dahomey0·0724,3860·0620,902
Denmark0·70243,8590·70243,859
Dominican Republic0·0724,3860·0620,902
El Salvador0·0724,3860·0620,902
Ecuador0·0724,3860·0620,902
Spain1·04362,3051·04362,305
United States25·008,709,25025·008,709,250
Ethiopia0·0724,3860·0620,902
Finland0·38132,3800·39135,865
France6·072,114,6066·072,114,606
Gabon0·0724,3860·0620,902
Ghana0·1034,8370·0931,353
Greece0·2380,1250·2483,609
Guatemala0·0724,3860·0620,902
Guinea0·0724,3860·0620,902
Guyana*0·0724,3860·0620,907
Haiti0·0724,3860·0620,902
Upper Volta0·0724,3860·0620,902
Honduras0·0724,3860·0620,902
Hungary0·42146,3150·43149,799
India2·32808,2182·17755,963
Indonesia0·42146,3150·39135,865
Iraq0·0931,3530·0931,353
Iran0·2794,0600·2794,060
Ireland0·2276,6410·2173,158
Iceland0·0724,3860·0620,902

the contributions made by all States to the current International Labour Organisation budget.

Details of contributions actually made are not readily available, but the table below gives the contributions due for the two calendar years covered by the current budget.

State (French alphabetical order)

Percentage 1972

Net contribution 1972 (1)

Percentage 1973

Net contribution 1973 (1)

Israel0·1655,7390·1759,223
Italy2·64919,6972·86996,339
Jamaica*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Japan3·161,100,8493·931,369,094
Jordan0·0724,3860·0620,902
Kenya*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Khmer Republic*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Kuwait0·0931,3530·0931,353
Laos*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Lebanon0·0724,3860·0620,902
Liberia0·0724,3860·0620,902
Libyan Arab Republic0·0827,8700·0827,870
Luxembourg0·0724,3860·0620,902
Malagasy Republic0·0724,3860·0620,902
Malaysia0·1552,2550·1345,288
Malawi*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Mali0·0724,3860·0620,902
Malta*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Morocco0·1345,2880·1241,805
Mauritius*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Mexico0·77268,2450·79275,213
Mongolia*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Nepal*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Nicaragua0·0724,3860·0620,902
Niger0·0724,3860·0620,902
Nigeria0·1862,7070·1655,739
Norway0·51177,6690·51177,669
New Zealand0·47163,7340·45156,767
Qatar0·60(2)20,902 (2)
Uganda*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Pakistan0·50174,1850·47163,734
Panama0·0724,3860·0620,902
Paraguay0·0724,3860·0620,902
Netherlands1·13393,6581·13393,658
Peru0·1345,2880·1345,288
Philippines0·37128,8970·37128,897
Poland1·26438,9461·28445,914
Portugal0·2276,6410·2276,643
Rumania0·43149,7990·43149,799
United Kingdom8·823,072,6238·272,881,020
Rwanda*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Senegal0·0724,3860·0620,902
Sierra Leone0·0724,3860·0620,902
Singapore*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Somalia0·0724,3860·0620,902
Sudan0·0724,3860·0620,902
Sweden1·58550,4241·58550,425
Switzerland1·18411,0761·18411,077
Syrian Arab Republic0·0724,3860·0620,902
Tanzania*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Chad0·0724,3860·0620,902
Czechoslovakia0·92320,5000·92320,501
Thailand0·1862,7070·1862,707
Togo0·0724,3860·0620,902
Trinidad and Tobago*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Tunisia0·0724,3860·0620,902
Turkey0·49170,7010·49170,702
Ukraine1·51526,0391·59553,909
USSR10·453,640,46610·453,640,467
Uruguay0·1034,8370·0931,353
Venezuela0·50174,1850·50174,185
Viet-Nam0·0931,3530·0931,353
Yemen Arab Republic*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Yemen (People's Democratic Republic)*0·0724,3860·0620,902
Yugoslavia0·40139,3480·40139,348
Zambia*0·0724,3860·0620,902
(1) In some cases the amounts attributed to States assessed at the same

percentage in both years have had to be rounded down to the nearest dollar in 1972 and rounded

up in 1973.

(2) Provisional assessment—Members from June, 1972.
(3) May be subject to later downward adjustment.

Commission On Industrial Relations (References)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what references are currently being dealt with by the

Date
References by the Secretary of State under Section 121 of the Industrial Relations Act 1971, concerning:(Date in brackets relates to the original reference to the Royal Commission on Industrial Relations)
Industrial relations training4th November, 1971 (29th May, 1970)
Industrial communications4th November, 1971 (16th November, 1970
The rôles in industrial relations of:
(a) boards of directors,4th November, 1971 (4th May, 1971)
(b) personnel and line management, and
(c) consultants
The hotel and catering industry*4th November, 1971 (5th November, 1969)
Negotiating machinery for multi-plant undertakings8th November, 1971
Williams & Glyn's Bank Ltd.20th March, 1972
General Accident Fire and Life Assurance Corporation Ltd.5th June, 1972
Certain retail distributive trades20th June, 1972
G. Clancey Ltd., Halesowen14th August, 1972
W. Alexander (Coach Builders) Ltd., Falkirk18th August, 1972
Disputes and grievance procedures and disciplinary matters15th November, 1972
* Report No. 23, Part One: Hotels and Restaurants, published 6th October, 1971 and Report No. 27, Part Two: Industrial Catering, published 20th March, 1972.
References by the Secretary of State under the Wages Councils Act 1959 (as amended by the Industrial Relations Act 1971) concerning abolition or variation of the field of operation of:Date
The Ready-made and Wholesale Bespoke Tailoring Wages Council31st January, 1972
The Dressmaking and Women's Light Clothing Wages Council (England and Wales)
The Dressmaking and Women's Light Clothing Wages Council (Scotland)
The Wholesale Mantle and Costume Wages Council
The Shirtmaking Wages Council
The Hat, Cap and Millinery Wages Council
The Corset Wages Council
The Retail Bespoke Tailoring Wages Council (England and Wales)
The Retail Bespoke Tailoring Wages Council (Scotland)
The Rubber Proofed Garment Making Industry Wages Council
The Stamped or Pressed Metal-Wares Wages Council
The Hollow-ware Wages Council
The Pin, Hook and Eye and Snap Fastener Wages Council
The Keg and Drum Wages Council
The Coffin Furniture and Cerement Making Wages Council
Boot and Floor Polish Wages Council13th June, 1972
Paper Box Wages Council24th July, 1972
References by the National Industrial Relations Court under the Industrial Relations Act 1971:
Section 11 concerning an agency shop agreement
Rank Leisure Services Limited, Theatre Division and Entertainment Managers' Association21st September, 1972
Section 17 and Schedule 1 concerning closed shop agreements
British Actors' Equity Association and the Film Production Association of Great Britain11th August, 1972
British Actors' Equity Association and Council of Regional Theatre
British Actors' Equity Association and the Association of Touring and Producing Managers
British Actors' Equity Association and the Theatrical Management Association Ltd.
British Actors' Equity Association and the Society of West End Theatre Managers
Section 46 concerning recognition of a sole bargaining agent:
Allied Breweries (U.K.) Ltd. and National Association of Licensed House Managers2nd June, 1972
Section 52 concerning withdrawal of recognition of a sole bargaining agent:
National Coal Board, Immingham Bulk Terminal and a group of employees3rd July, 1972

Commission on Industrial Relations; and on what dates they were made.

The Commission on Industrial Relations is currently dealing with the following:

Redundancy Payments

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he proposes to issue his consultative documents on redundancy payments.

Apprenticeships (Liverpool)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the number of registered apprenticeships in the city of Liverpool.

Young Persons (Liverpool)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the number of boys and girls registered as wholly unemployed in the city of Liverpool; and what plans he has to deal with this problem.

In October there were 2,770 young people registered as wholly unemployed in Liverpool County Borough. Various short-term measures to alleviate unemployment amongst young people have been introduced and careers officers are doing all they can to help those affected to find work.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will have discussions with voluntary organisations concerned with the employment of disabled people before he completes his review of policies and services for disabled people; if his Department has had discussions with the Sir Robert Jones Workshops regarding his Department's review; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend intends to consult widely before completing his review; and voluntary organisations, including the Sir Robert Jones Workshops, will be given the opportunity to express their views on matters of interest to them.

Social Services

Schizophrenia

77.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what research his Department is carrying out into the problems of schizophrenia; how much money is allocated for this purpose; and if he will make a statement.

The problem of schizophrenia is of concern to both the Medical Research Council and my Department. Research into schizophrenia is an integral part of wider programmes of research into mental disorder that are being supported and it is not possible to identify separately the total amount and cost of research into schizophrenia alone. The Medical Research Council meets the larger proportion of the cost of the wider programmes, but in 1971–72 my Department spent £⅓ million on them.

Health Authorities (Appointments)

78.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many clerks to local government councils have been asked by his Department to suggest names for consideration in appointing members of the health authorities which will arise from the reorganisation of the National Health Service.

National Health Service (Banking System)

79.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will arrange that the Post Office Giro system may be used as banker for the reorganised National Health Service.

In considering the banking arrangements for the reorganised Health Service we will bear in mind the facilities offered by the Post Office Giro.

Remedial Professions

80.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now instruct the management side of the Whitley Council to negotiate with the remedial professions on the basis of meeting the requests put forward by them to ensure adequate salary scales and grading.

This is a matter for the Management Side in the light of the Government's White Paper (Cmnd. 5125) published on 6th November.

81.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many meetings have taken place this year between the staff side and the management side of the Whitley Council to consider the proposals which were first put forward in November, 1970, on a revised career grading structure in the National Health Service for members of the remedial professions; and why there have been delays in the consideration of this matter culminating in an offer on 4th November, 1972, which would have involved reductions in salary for some members of these professions.

As I explained in my reply to the hon. Member for Colne Valley (Mr. David Clark) on 13th November the Whitley Council is considering the structures of eight professions including the three remedial professions. There have been 10 joint

MOVEMENT IN PRICES* AND RETIREMENT PENSIONS† IN THE PERIODS OCTOBER, 1964, TO JUNE, 1970, AND JUNE, 1970, TO OCTOBER, 1972, SHOWING THE REAL VALUE OF RETIREMENT PENSION AFTER ALLOWING FOR CHANGE IN PRICES
Standard rate of retirement pensionand retail prices as indices based on (1) October, 1964=100, and (2) June, 1970=100Real value of retirement pensionafter allowing for change in prices*as an index based on (1) October, 1964=100, and (2) June, 1970 = 100
Retirement pensionRetail prices*
(1)—
October, 1964100100100
March, 1965—
Old rate10010298
New rate119116
October, 1967—
Old rate119111107
New rate133120
November, 1969—
Old rate133124108
New rate148120
June, 1970148130114
(2)—
June, 1970100100100
September, 1971—
Old rate10011190
New rate120108
October, 1972—
Old rate120121100
New rate135112
* Based on the Index of Retail Prices.
† For persons who have not attained 80 years of age.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total amount paid out in social security benefits in the latest week for which these figures are available and the amount paid out for similar benefits in the corresponding week 12 months earlier.

sub-committee meetings besides a meeting of the full council and many informal contacts. While these professions share some common problems they also have their own special features and so progress in the sub-committees has been uneven. I am informed that there has been no proposal to reduce the current salary of any staff.—[Vol. 846, c. 49.]

Pensions And Benefits

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table showing the behaviour of prices and retirement pensions and benefits over the two periods October, 1964, to June, 1970, and June, 1970, to October, 1972, and compare the real value of pensions and benefits in the two periods.

It is estimated that the average weekly amount paid out in August, 1972, was £87 million compared with £75 million a week in August, 1971.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in view of the fact that in many cases it is to the advantage of those in receipt of contributory retirement pensions to forsake these pensions and obtain supplementary pensions and allowances, he will take steps to advise all pensioners in this situation of the advantages in switching to supplementary benefits on a non-contributory basis.

No.In general people are required by law to pay the contributions which give them title to retirement pension. Supplementary benefit, as its name implies, is intended where appropriate to bring a person's income from contributory benefits or other sources up to the level laid down by Parliament.

General Medical Council

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now move to appoint a select committee to consider the future composition and powers of the General Medical Council.

I have at present nothing to add to my replies to the hon. Member for Halifax (Dr. Summerskill) on 14th November.—[Vol. 846, c. 206–7.]

Maintenance Payments

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total amount in the most recent year paid by way of maintenance for wives and children where husbands were in default or in arrear; and how much was recovered.

I regret that this information is not available as the only social security benefit at present paid in these circumstances is supplementary benefit, and the reasons for payment of this are not analysed. The hon. Member may, however, wish to know that, on the basis of information obtained annually of the amount of supplementary benefit paid out to various categories of claimants, it is estimated that in 1971 about £66 million was paid to about 139,500 separated wives where it was necessary to pursue the question of liability to maintain. This sum was paid after taking into account about £6 million in maintenance payments received by the wives themselves. It is not possible to make a reliable estimate of how much of the £66 million was paid as a direct consequence of the failure to meet maintenance orders.During the financial year 1971–72 the Department recovered about £10½ million from persons liable to maintain. It is not known how much of this sum was in respect of separated wives.

Benefits (Method Of Payment)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will consider making payment of pensions, allowances and benefits through the National Giro system.

About 54,000,000 payments a year are made by the Department by Giro order, mostly for short-term benefits such as sickness benefit. Experience has shown the advantages of paying pensions and other long-term benefits by order book; it is convenient, it gives an assurance of continuity to the pensioners, and it costs less than other methods. Payment of pensions direct into a Giro account is precluded because pensions are subject to certain continuing conditions, and thus, before each payment is made, the pensioner has to sign a receipt confirming that these conditions are satisfied.

1971 Census

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will request the Registrar-General to state separately the totals for foreign and non-stated, which are combined in the Advanced Analysis of the 1971 census by place of birth, published on 17th November.

On the basis of full processing of the returns from 30 counties in England and Wales, it is estimated that, of the 1,077,000 in Great Britain shown as "foreign and not stated", some 225,000 were in the category "not stated" and the remainder in "foreign".

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what was the total number of households recorded in the Urban District of Stanley, County Durham, in the 1971 census; how many fell into the categories of owner-occupied, privately rented, owned by nationalised industries and owned by the local authority, respectively; and what was the average number of persons per household;(2) what was the total number of households recorded in the Urban District of Consett in the 1971 census; how many fell into the categories of owner-occupied, privately rented, owned by nationalised industries and owned by the local authority, respectively; and what was the average number of persons per household.

The numbers of households in permanent buildings, classified according by type of tenure, and the average size of household, were:

1971 CENSUS OF POPULATION
Households in permanent buildings
Consett U.D.Stanley U.D.
Total households12,14514,735
Tenure
Owner occupied5,2704,955
Rented from Council or New Town4,4356,060
Rented unfurnished from private landlord or Housing Association2,3603,675
Rented furnished7045
Not stated50
Average size of household2·902·84
Figures are rounded to the nearest five to prevent possible disclosure of personal information. Dwellings owned by nationalised industries were not separately distinguished in the 1971 Census.

Health Service Commissioner (Salary)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will give an assurance that, in accordance with the wage and salary freeze, Sir Alan Marre will not receive any increase in salary when he takes on his additional duties as Health Service Commissioner.

Sir Alan Marre cannot take on these duties until the necessary legislation has been approved. Clause 32(4) of the National Health Service Reorganisation Bill would however prevent an increase in salary solely on account of the extension of duties to which the hon. Member refers.

Social Security Offices (Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many social security offices have been closed in Wales in each of the past five years.

The following table gives the required information.

Number of offices opened in the towns concerned
(a)(b)
YearNumber of offices* closedAll purposeCaller facilities onlyNet reduction in number of offices
196817728
196915465
197016466
19713111
1972 (to date4121
* Each office administered national insurance or supplementary benefits only.

Discretionary Benefits (Disregards)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will introduce legislation to provide that income from disablement benefit will be disregarded in the calculation of a person's entitlement to discretionary benefits.

Up to £2 a week of a wax or industrial disablement pension is already disregarded in assessing supplementary benefit including any discretionary additions.

Burial In Common Graves

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make a statement indicating how many individuals who died in hospitals, institutions, and homes for which he has ministerial responsibility were buried in public pauper graves during the period 1971–72.

I take it that the hon. Member has in mind burial in common graves, but I regret that no statistics are available of burials arranged in this way by health service authorities. From inquiries made in one region some time ago I would estimate that the number might be of the order of 1 per cent. of all deaths in hospital. But as the hon. Member will be aware from my reply of 14th November such burials may also be arranged by relatives.—[Vol. 846. c. 67–8.]

Official Visits (Newham)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he last made an official visit to the London Borough of Newham; how many such visits he has made to date; and when he expects to make the next visit.

One visit, in December, 1971. I have no plans at present to make a further visit.

Pensioners (£10 Bonus)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the number of war-disabled pensioners in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement about their eligibility to receive the £10 bonus.

There were at 30th September, 1972, approximately 338,000 war disablement pensions in payment in the United Kingdom. All war pensioners over retirement age who are receiving one of the qualifying benefits for the week beginning 4th December—which apart from retirement or supplementary pension include both unemployability supplement and constant attendance allowance under the war pensions scheme—will be entitled to the £10 payment.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many retirement pensioners he estimates will be eligible to receive the proposed £10 bonus in the Consett and Stanley areas of County Durham.

I regret that this information is not available. Statistics of retirement pensioners are kept for the country as a whole and not for local areas.

Genealogical Research

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, for the benefit of genealogical research and of people interested in tracing their own family, he will consider authorising, subject to suitable safeguards the release of information from censuses more recent than 1871.

Public access to individual census returns less than 100 years old cannot in any circumstances be allowed. I am, however, prepared to agree that—subject in each instance to the consent of the person concerned or that of one of his direct descendants—researchers may be informed of the age and place of birth of individual people as recorded in the less recent censuses. This decision applies to age and place of birth only and only to censuses prior to and including that of 1901. It will be necessary to make a charge for this service, approximating to the cost of providing it.

Sheltered Workshops (Hackney)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what recent discussions has he had with the council of the London Borough of Hackney concerning the desirability for the establishment of a sheltered workshop in that borough; and if he will make a statement.

I have been asked to reply. At a meeting last month between officers of my Department and of the London Borough of Hackney, plans were confirmed for establishing a sheltered workshop there as soon as possible. Building is expected to begin not later than the spring of 1974.

Trade And Industry

Oil Rig Vessels

82.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will seek to obtain and publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the subsidies pay able by the United States Government on oil rig supply and service vessels built in the United States of America; and if he will provide similar subsidies to the United Kingdom shipyards.

I am not aware that the United States Government subsidise the construction of this kind of vessel. I shall be pleased to consider any evidence the hon. Gentleman is able to submit.

83.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is his estimate of the number of oil rig supply, service and standby vessels required for use by oil rigs situated in the North Sea oilfields by 1975 and 1980.

The specific information requested is not available but as I said in my answer on 13th November, the prospective market for such vessels is among the subjects considered by consultants in a report recently submitted to the Government.—[Vol. 846, c. 14–15.]

Price Increases

84.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many price increases were notified by manufacturers to Government Departments for the week ended 19th November, 1972.

Since the standstill started, some 100 firms have submitted to my Department details of proposed price increases for scrutiny with a view to obtaining consent for such increases.

Retail Prices

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will urge all retail establishments to display their price lists for the week commencing 6th November throughout the following 90 days.

It would not be feasible for every shop to display such lists in view of the multiplicity of items involved. However, I agree that it would be helpful if shops could have this information available and my Department has so advised representatives of the retail food trades.

North Sea Oil And Gas

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will give details of the percentage of the total area of the United Kingdom sector of the Continental Shelf allocated for production and exploration.

Of the designated area of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf 25·4 per cent. is currently covered by petroleum production licences; holders of exploration licences are free to prospect over the remainder of the area.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will list the current estimated yields and reserves of the wells and fields established in the Scottish sector of the North Sea, showing the estimated flow rates and potential reserves for each well and field.

It is estimated that production from the United Kingdom Continental Shelf will reach 25 million tons per annum by the mid-1970s and 75 million tons per annum by 1980. British Petroleum's Forties field is planned to produce 20 million tons per annum at peak and Shell/Esso's Brent field 15 million tons per annum. Shell/Esso have assessed recoverable reserves of Brent at about 140 million tons. Other production levels and reserve potentials have not been announced by the licensees.

Live Animals (Export)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will exercise his powers under the Import, Export and Customs Powers Act, 1939, to forbid the export of live food animals for slaughter.

No. Policy on the export of live animals for slaughter is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.

Imperial Monomark Appliances, Kingsway Nominees Limited

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he has received the communication dated 15th November, 1972, from the hon. Member for West Ham, North, regarding matters pertaining to the Imperial Monomark Appliances, Kingsway Nominees Limited and matters connected with his inspector's investigation; and when the hon. Member may expect a reply to this communication.

The hon. Member's letter was received on the 16th November, 1972, and a reply will be sent as soon as possible.

Motor Cycles (Insurance)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will introduce legislation to prevent insurance companies charging a motor-cyclist additional insurance for a passenger, even where the motorcycle has no provisions for carrying a passenger.

No; as the law will require motor cyclists to be covered by insurance for their liability for personal injury to their passengers whether or not their machines are designed to carry passengers, the insurers involved should be free to assess the costs of covering any such risks.

Industrial Development Certificates (Wolverhampton And Dudley)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many industrial development certificates

INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT CERTIFICATES REFUSED
1969197019711st January-31st October, 1972
Wolverhampton*Nil42Nil
Dudley*311124
* Wolverhampton comprises the employment exchange areas of Wolverhampton and Bilston; Dudley the employment exchange areas of Dudley, Cradley Heath, Halesowen, Stourbridge and Tipton.
The exemption limits below which IDCs are not required were raised in December, 1970, from 3,000 sq. ft. to 5,000 sq. ft., and in July, 1972, to 15,000 sq. ft.

Hs 748 Aircraft

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what orders have now been placed for the HS 748 aircraft and are awaiting delivery from Messrs. Hawker Siddeley's Manchester or Cheshire factories.

Unemployment (Carlisle)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he is aware that some 80 personnel, mainly in the clerical grades, are being made redundant at Carr's Biscuit Works, Carlisle, and that a similar number of clerical grades will be redundant when the Carlisle and District State Management Scheme ends; what plans he has for finding employment for these staffs; and if he will redirect to the Carlisle area some Government offices to provide employment for these persons.

Yes. The Department of Employment will do everything possible to assist with redeployment. The question of alternative employment for the small number of clerical grades employed by the Carlisle and District State Management Scheme is being discussed with other Government Departments concerned.The Northern Region, along with other parts of the country, is being considered as a possible receiving area for work which may be dispersed as a result of the curent location review; I can give

have been refused in each year since 1969 to firms wishing to develop in Wolverhampton and Dudley.

Following is the information:no assurance at this stage as to where work will go.The Measures under the Industry Act will contribute to the employment prospects in the Carlisle area.

Industry Act

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what criteria the Industrial Development Unit uses when considering applications for loans under Section 7 of the Industry Act, 1972.

The guidelines for considering applications for loans under Section 7 of the Industry Act, 1972, have been published. As my right hon. Friend the Minister for Industrial Development stated on 1st November, copies are available in the Library. —[Vol. 845, c. 2.]

Bowaters (Takeover)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will refer to the Monopolies Commission the proposed takeover of Bowaters, with a view to ensuring that the interests of the workers are protected.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will refer to the Monopolies Commission the proposed takeover of Bowater-Trafalgar companies.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will refer to the Monopolies Commission the proposed takeover of Bowaters.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, in view of the concern of those employed in printing, paper making and boardmaking and allied industries regarding the proposals for the takeover of Bowaters, if he will refer the matter to the Monopolies Commission.

The offer by Trafalgar House Investments Ltd. for the Bowater Corporation Ltd. has been withdrawn.

Environment

Traffic Accidents (Windscreen Shattering)

85.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will ensure that in future years his Department publishes in the Annual Statistical Review of Road Accidents figures for the number of traffic accidents caused by the shattering of windscreens

My right hon. and learned Friend has no immediate plans for changing the scope of the information now collected and published; but when the Road Accident Report Form is next revised all relevant topics including this one will be considered as candidates for inclusion.

86.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many traffic accidents took place each year for the last 10 years; and what is his estimate of the number of such accidents caused by the shattering of wind screens.

Following are the figures of accidents involving personal injury:

1962264,032
1963271,531
1964292,245
1965299,229
1966291,725
1967276,942
1968264,200
1969261,840
1970267,457
1971258,727
No detailed information is available about the number of accidents caused by the shattering of windscreens; but such evidence as is available suggests that less than 0·1 per cent. of accidents are attributable to this occurrence.

Housing Finance Act, 1972

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local housing authorities in England are not operating the provisions of the Housing Finance Act, 1972; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. and learned Friend has made a default order against Clay Cross. A small number of other authorities have been given the statutory month's notice that he is considering making a default order against them.

Pensioners (Bonus Payment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make arrangements with all appropriate local authorities to ensure that the £10 bonus payment to pensioners is exempt from consideration in calculating eligibility for rate or rent rebates.

Tree Planting Year

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what advice he is giving to local authorities in relation to their population of trees in 1973 as part of Tree Planting Year.

I want to see more trees, especially in towns. When existing trees have to be felled, every effort should be made to replace them. More detailed advice is contained in the Department's circular No. 99/72.

Aircraft Noise

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment in view of the anxiety caused by aircraft noise to residents of Windsor and Maidenhead, if he would consider requesting the working group of the Noise Advisory Council to make an interim report so as to enable him to take the appropriate action.

It must, of course, be for the chairman and members of this Noise Advisory Council group to determine their own way of carrying out their work but my hon. Friend can take it that they will offer their advice to my hon. Friend the Minister for Aerospace and Shipping at the earliest practicable date.

Caravan Sites (Manchester)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he proposes to make the designation order under Section 12 of the Caravan Sites Act, 1968, the application for which he has received from the Manchester City Council.

Manchester Corporation's application for a designation order is under consideration and a decision will be announced as soon as practicable.

Traffic Congestion (Huddersfield)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will arrange for an official ministerial visit to Huddersfield in the near future, in the company of the hon. Member for Huddersfield, West, to study the traffic congestion in the town caused by the non-completion of the M62.

I have nothing to add to the reply given to the hon. Member on 8th November in answer to a similar Question.

Improvement Grants

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he proposes to take to deal with the system of improvement grants and other related matters for which he is responsible, in the light of the evidence supplied to him by a member of Portsmouth City Council and others.

My right hon. and learned Friend takes the view that local authorities, with their intimate knowledge of local housing needs and conditions, are best placed to judge the merits of particular grant applications.

Water Supplies

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the amount spent in total and per head of population upon water supply in England and Wales in 1971–72 and in 1970–71.

In 1970–71 gross revenue expenditure by local authority undertakings and joint water boards was £160,813,000 and capital expenditure was £83,539,000. Figures for water com- panies, which provide about 23 per cent. of total supplies, are not readily available. Expenditure per head in the public sector only is approximately £4·31 on revenue account and £2·24 on capital account.The figures for 1971–72 are not yet available.

Departmental Offices

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many office buildings in greater London are used by his Department; how many are vacant; what is the estimated value of the property; and if he will list it address by address together with the responsibilities undertaken by each office.

My Department uses 813 buildings in greater London for its task of providing accommodation for the Government. The estate is managed so that buildings which must be vacated remain vacant for as short a time as possible; it is not possible to form an accurate estimate of the total value of the whole estate; the cost of listing all the buildings would be disproportionate. However, if my hon. Friend is concerned about a particular property, perhaps he would write to me about it.

Departmental Staff

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the present staff of his Department; and by how much the staff has changed in size since November, 1970.

The present staff of my Department is 70,109. This figure includes a net addition of 1,439 staff as the result of transfers of functions between Departments. The total shows a reduction of 1,929 since November, 1970.

Motor-Cyclists (Minimum Age)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many claims he has received and what is the total amount paid in compensation to 15-year-olds who suffered unavoidable loss by the raising of the minimum age for motor-cyclists in December, 1971.

Building Inspectors

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation making it compulsory for all qualified building inspectors to be employed directly by his Department.

No. There is no intention of transferring from local authorities the function of enforcing building control and they need inspectors for this purpose.

Lincoln's Inn (Lawns)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will arrange for a public inquiry into the planning application for office development on the lawns of Lincoln's Inn, which has been forwarded to his Department for decision.

I am obtaining the views of the local planning authorities and will in the light of these, and other representations, decide whether a public inquiry should be held.

Gipsy Lane, Bleasby (Pumping Station)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now appoint an inspector to inquire into the proposal for the building of a pumping station 12 yards from the newly built bungalow belonging to Mr. John Kirton, of Gypsy Lane, Bleasby, Nottingham, or request the local authorities to seek his confirmation of a revocation order so that the whole matter can be considered afresh.

No. This is a matter well within the competence of the local authority to decide, particularly in the light of the urgent drainage needs of the area.

Foreign Lorries

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) how many foreign lorries have been found to be overweight under the Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act; and what percentage this was of foreign vehicles examined;(2) how many foreign lorries found overweight under the Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act exceeded the permitted limits by up to 5 per cent., between 5 per cent. and 10 per cent., between 10 per cent. and 20 per cent. and over 20 per cent., respectively;(3) how many foreign lorries have been examined under powers derived from the Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act, 1971; and what percentage this is of foreign lorries entering Great Britain;(4) if he will list the countries of origin of foreign vehicles found overweight under the Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act.

In the period 1st August to 31st October this year, 710 foreign vehicles have been examined under the Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act, 1972, by my Department's enforcement officers. In addition, local authority weights and measures inspectors have also examined a substantial number. Altogether 206 were found to be overweight. This figure probably represents about 20 per cent. of all vehicles examined, and approximately 2 per cent. of all foreign vehicles — including unaccompanied trailers not subject to the Act—which entered the country during this period.Of these overweight vehicles, 41 exceeded the permitted limits by up to 5 per cent., 61 between 5 and 10 per cent., 65 between 10 and 20 per cent., 37 by over 20 per cent. and two others by 80 per cent. Their countries of origin were as follows:

  • Austria
  • Belgium
  • Denmark
  • France
  • Germany
  • Holland
  • Spain
  • Switzerland.

Coventry Review Plan

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to approve or reject the City of Coventry Review Plan 1966.

National Parks (Land Sales)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many acres of publicly-owned land in national parks have been sold to private individuals or organisations in each of the last five years.

This information is not readily available and could only be obtained at a disproportionate cost.

Covent Garden (Development)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to announce his decision on the future development of the Covent Garden area.

Charing Cross Road, London (Widening)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proposals have been submitted to him by the Greater London Council for the widening of Charing Cross Road; what loss of residential accommodation would be involved; and what loss of retail premises, especially bookshops.

A proposal for widening Charing Cross Road is included in the GLC's proposed comprehensive development area for the Covent Garden area, which is now being considered in the light of the inspector's report. The proposals do not specifically indicate what loss of residential accommodation and other premises would be involved.

Cambridge Circus (Development)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proposals from the Greater London Council are before him for the development of Cambridge Circus, including the site of Trentishoe Mansions.

Redevelopment of part of Cambridge Circus is included in the Greater London Council's comprehensive development area proposals for Covent Garden, which are now being considered. No proposals have been submitted for the Trentishoe Mansions site.

Concessionary Bus Travel (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities in Scotland have sought his guidance on the introduction of a scheme to grant pensioners concessionary bus travel.

Very few. But local authorities are well aware of their discretionary powers.

Alkali And Clean Air Act Offences

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the maximum fine for an offender against the Alkali and Clean Air Act during the past 12 months.

General Rate Revaluation

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will postpone the general rate revaluation in the event of the provisions of the Counter-Inflation (Temporary Provisions) Act being extended for a further 60 days.

Richmond-Broad Street Railway

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will now state his intentions concerning subsidies for the Richmond-Broad Street railway line.

The London commuter network, which includes this service, is grant-aided from year to year. A decision on renewal of grant will be made in the New Year.

Rating (Plant And Machinery)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to receive the report of the McNairn Committee on the rating of plant and machinery.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland and I have received the committee's report and it will be published within a few weeks. My right hon. Friend and I would like to place on record our thanks to Mr. McNairn and the members of the committee for the work they have done and for completing their report in so short a time.

Home Department

Retirement Pensioners (Lobby Of Parliament)

87.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in view of the numbers of people expected to attend the rally of retirement pensioners and lobby of Parliament on Wednesday, 22nd November, if he will call for a report from the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis as to what provisions have been made to divert traffic from the Parliament Square area to facilitate the arrangements for this lobby.

The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis tells me that on the information available he does not consider it necessary to make prior arrangements to divert traffic from Parliament Square.

Royal Commission On The Constitution (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to receive the Report of the Royal Commission on the Constitution; and if he will consider expediting the part relating to Northern Ireland.

As regards the first part of the Question, I am told that the commission is now drafting its report but much still remains to be done. It hopes to report in the early summer of next year. As regards the second part of the Question, it is for the commission to decide how to proceed within the terms of reference it has been given.

Criminal Courts (Surrender To Bail)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names of criminal courts in inner and outer London where the practice is followed in certain cases, of causing persons, who have previously not been in custody and have surrendered to bail, to be led through the streets in handcuffs;(2) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names of criminal courts in inner and outer London where the practice is followed, in certain cases, of causing persons, who have previously not been in custody and have surrendered to bail, to be detained in cells;(3) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT examples of the exceptional circumstances in which persons, appearing at the Inner London Crown Court, who have not been in custody and have surrendered to bail, are handcuffed while being escorted to and from court.

If a defendant's bail is not renewed by the Crown Court in the London area during the course of his trial he will be detained in a cell during any adjournment. The use of handcuffs is considered only if access to and from the court is through a public thoroughfare—as at the Crown Court at Inner London, Middlesex Guildhall, and Woodford; and at the Royal Courts of Justice—and the defendant is, for example, considered likely to attempt to escape or to do injury to himself or others.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons appearing at the Inner London Crown Court in 1971 and to date in 1972, who had not been in custody and had surrendered to bail were handcuffed while being escorted to and from court.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what records are maintained by the prison service as to the identity and number of persons, appearing at Crown Courts and the Criminal Division of the Court of Appeal, who have previously not been in custody and have surrendered to bail, and who have been escorted to and from court in handcuffs.

Accused Persons (Court Procedure)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will initiate legislation so that accused persons who are represented by counsel or solicitors shall not be required to stand in a dock in such courts, but shall be permitted to be seated next to or near their legal advisers, save where exceptional security precautions have to be undertaken.

Hexachlorophane

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in the interest of consumers, he will name the non-medicinal cosmetic and toilet preparations which still contain hexachlorophane.

Not at present. I understand that the use of hexachlorophane in such products has already been substantially reduced and that it has been discontinued altogether in the case of baby products. I am considering whether further action is necessary.

Ugandan Asians

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will list those local authorities which have informed the Ugandan Resettlement Board that they are able to provide housing accommodation for refugees from Uganda.

The board has received offers of more than 1,700 dwellings from local authorities. Other authorities are still considering whether they can help the board in this way. I do not think that it would be appropriate to publish a list.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on the Government's decision to give £50,000. to the fund to help the poor and homeless persons from Uganda; and what similar sums the Government have made available for the use of poor and homeless persons in Great Britain prior to August, 1972.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to a Question by the hon. Member for Leek (Mr. Knox) on 20th November. It would require too long a reply to set out all Government expenditure from which poor and homeless people benefit.—[Vol. 846, c. 295.]

Central Criminal Court (Discontinued Trial)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the investigation announced by the Com- missioner of Police of the Metropolis into the circumstances, so far as the Metropolitan Police were concerned, surrounding the discontinuance of a trial at the Central Criminal Court on 12th June has been completed; what is the result of this investigation; and if he will make a statement.

The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis tells me that the investigation has been completed and that he has sent the report to the Director of Public Prosecutions.

Diplomatic Immunity

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many European, Commonwealth, United States, Latin American, Soviet, African, Arab, Israeli, Japanese, Chinese, Taiwanese and Asian, respectively, diplomats accredited to the Court of St. James's have claimed diplomatic immunity in respect of criminal and motoring offences, respectively, in each of the last 10 years for which records are available; how many and what percentage of such criminal offences involved theft and violence, respectively; and how many of such motoring offences were for obstruction or other parking offences;(2) how many representatives of the European Economic Community have claimed diplomatic immunity in respect of criminal offences in each of the last 10 years for which records are available; and how many and what percentage of such offences involved theft and violence, respectively;(3) how many representatives of the European Economic Community have claimed diplomatic immunity in respect of motoring offences in each of the last 10 years for which records are available; and how many of such motoring offences were for obstruction or other parking offences;(4) what is the total estimated sum owed to the Exchequer by persons or organisations having diplomatic immunity, in respect of parking and in respect of other motoring offences, for each of the past five years;(5) how many representatives of the United Nations and of other international organisations have claimed diplomatic immunity in respect of criminal offences in each of the last 10 years for which records are available; and how many and what percentage of such offences involved theft and violence, respectively;(6) how many representatives of the United Nations and of other international organisations have claimed diplomatic immunity in respect of motoring offences in each of the last 10 years for which records are available; and how many of such motoring offences were for obstruction or other parking offences.

The information asked for is not readily available for each of the last 10 years, but I am obtaining details of cases reported by the police during the period 1967–71 and shall write to the hon. and learned Member.

Scientology

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he now intends to review his policy of banning visits by scientologists from abroad.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave on 17th November to questions from the hon. Member for Rugby (Mr. William Price).—[Vol. 846, c. 243.]

Prisoners (Irish Citizens)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the number of prisoners in Her Majesty's prisons in England and Wales who are residents of the Republic of Eire.

I regret that this information is not available; but in November, 1971, slightly over 5 per cent. of prisoners then serving sentences in England and Wales were born in the Irish Republic.

Murder (Penalty)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in the light of the forthcoming publication of the report of the Committee on Penalties for Homicide in Scotland, he will ask the Criminal Law Revision Committee for views on the penalty for murder in England and Wales.

I understand that the Criminal Law Revision Committee is preparing an interim report on this subject, which I hope to receive soon.

Citizenship And Voting Rights

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the status and rights relating to movement, citizenship and voting of citizens of the old Commonwealth, patrials and non-patrials, citizens of the new Commonwealth, patrials and non-patrials, citizens of Eire, and citizens of European Economic Community countries, respectively, after Great Britain enters the European Economic Community on 1st January, 1973.

No distinction is made between citizens of the old and new Commonwealth as such.In general, since 1962 Commonwealth citizens have only been allowed to come and settle here if they first obtained employment vouchers. Under the Immigration Act, 1971, work permits issued to Commonwealth citizens will in the first place be limited to 12 months, and will no longer carry the right of permanent settlement, either for the immigrant or his family. However, under the terms of that Act any Commonwealth citizen whose mother or father was born in the United Kingdom will be regarded as patrial and as such will have the right of abode in this country and thus be free from immigration control. All Commonwealth citizens will continue to enjoy full civic privileges, including the right to vote and the capacity to fill posts not open to aliens, such as membership of the armed services, the Civil Service and the police. Citizens of the Republic of Ireland will also enjoy these privileges. Commonwealth citizens will not have to complete landing and embarkation cards, they will not have to report to the police during their stay in this country and they will continue to be able to come to the United Kingdom as working holidaymakers for periods of up to three years.Nationals of EEC member States are free to move from one member State to another, to take employment or set up in business. The definition of United Kingdom nationals for this purpose includes all citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies who have the right of abode under Section 2 of the Immigration Act, 1971, but not citizens of independent Commonwealth countries with the right of abode. Citizens of the Republic of Ireland benefit from the free movement arrangements.Commonwealth and Irish citizens may apply for registration as citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies after they have completed five years' ordinary residence, and foreign nationals may apply for naturalisation after five years' residence.

Government Offices (Dispersal)

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the work of the Hardman Committee on the dispersal of civil servants out of London.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer which my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer gave on my behalf in reply to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Edward Taylor) on 16th November.—[Vol. 846. c. 607–8.]

Post-Apollo Programme

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if, in the light of the Ministerial meeting on 8th-9th November on European participation in the post-Apollo programme, he will discuss the issue at his next meeting with the Prime Minister of Holland.

I have nothing to add to the answer which my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer gave on my behalf in reply to a Question from the hon. Gentleman on 16th November.—[Vol. 846. c. 604–5.]

Prices And Incomes

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if he will now make a ministerial broadcast on his policies regarding prices and incomes.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Derbyshire, South-East (Mr. Rost) on 7th November.—[Vol. 845, c. 140.]

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if he will arrange for the text of his broadcast on the British Broadcasting Corporation's "Panorama" programme on 6th November, 1972, on the subject of prices and incomes to be placed in the Library.

Fanfare For Europe

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister what part he intends to play in Fanfare for Europe.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer I gave on 9th November to a similar Question from the hon. Member for Bolsolver (Mr. Skinner).—[Vol. 845, c. 1189–90.]

Inflation

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister when he next expects to meet the Trades Union Congress and the Confederation of British Industry.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Norman Lamont) and other hon. Members earlier today.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the Government's anti-inflation policy.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement I made to the House on 6th November.—[Vol. 845, c. 622–37.]

asked the Prime Minister when he intends to renew joint consultations with the Trades Union Congress and the Confederation of British Industry; and whether, meanwhile, he will publish a White Paper including all the proposals put forward by all three bodies concerned in the recent consultations.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Norman Lamont) earlier today. On the second part of the Question, the text of the Government's proposals, both on 26th September and on 2nd November, and the statement of the TUC in response were published; and I described these exchanges very fully to the House in my statement on 6th November.—[Vol. 845, c. 622–37.]

Europe (Prime Minister's Speech)

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech on Great Britain's future in Europe, delivered at the Guildhall, London, on 13th November.

Northern Ireland (Prime Minister's Visit)

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his official visit to Northern Ireland on 16th and 17th November.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the representations made to him during his official visit to Northern Ireland on 16th and 17th November.

I welcomed the opportunity, in the course of my second visit to Northern Ireland as Prime Minister, to meet the Governor, the Northern Ireland Commission, representatives of political parties and local authorities, members of the Royal Ulster Constabulary and of the armed forces serving in Northern Ireland, Church leaders and leaders of both sides of industry as well as some of the very many people who in all walks of life are helping to maintain the life of the Province.I saw some of the damage to the centre of Belfast; and discussed with representatives of both communities from all parts of the Province both the considerable successes already achieved by the security forces and our determination to deal effectively with terrorism, from whatever quarter it might come. I was greatly impressed by the courage with which, despite all the difficulties, the people of Northern Ireland continue to go about their business from day to day.I found, among all to whom I talked, a real desire for peace and a general acceptance of the Paper for Discussion as a fair statement of the fundamental conditions on which the future government of Northern Ireland must be based. I believe that, if the political parties and other responsible organisations in the Province try to understand each other's anxieties and to work together, a just and lasting settlement can be secured.

Economic Affairs

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister if he will seek an opportunity to address a meeting of the General Council of the Trades Union Congress on the subject of the economy.

I have had no such invitation but I am always prepared to talk to the General Council of the Trades Union Congress or any of its committees or officers.

Counter-Inflation (Temporary Provisions) Bill

asked the Prime Minister what ministerial arrangements are being made for monitoring the operation of the Counter-Inflation (Temporary Provisions) Bill.

Responsibility for monitoring the operation of the Bill when it becomes an Act has been allocated as follows:

  • for food and drink, the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food;
  • for most other goods and services, the Department of Trade and Industry;
  • for building materials, fares and rents, the Department of the Environment;
  • for ethical medicines, the Department of Health and Social Security;
  • for pay, the Department of Employment;
  • for dividends, the Treasury;
  • and where appropriate the corresponding Departments in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Defence

Industrial Workers (Pay)

asked the Minister of State for Defence when he expects to pay Government industrial workers, employed in the Royal dockyards and in other establishments, the improved wages, following the arbitration award; and, in view of the fact that the award is backdated over many months, during which there has been a substantial further rise in the cost of living, whether he will take steps to ensure payment at the earliest possible moment.

The majority of Ministry of Defence industrial employees will receive the new rate with wages paid in the week ending 1st December and the remainder the following week. The arrears from 1st July will be paid at the same time or shortly thereafter.

Training Aircraft

asked the Minister of State for Defence what orders have been given for the HS1182 close support trainer.

A contract for the development and production of the HS1182, which will be the new jet trainer for the Royal Air Force, was placed earlier this year.

Nimrod Aircraft

asked the Minister of State for Defence what is the total number of Nimrod aircraft now on order by his Department which is being supplied by Messrs. Hawker Siddeley in Manchester and Cheshire; and what further proposals he has for the use of this aircraft.

It is not the practice to divulge numbers of operational aircraft. There are at present no firm proposals for any additional roles for the Nimrod aircraft.

Education And Science

Public Lending Right

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she can yet state when she will introduce a Public Lending Right Bill.

As indicated in the answer given to the Question by the hon. and learned Member for Edinburgh, Leith (Mr. Ronald King Murray) on 17th October, a statement of the Government's intentions will be made as soon as possible, but I cannot say when this will be.—[Vol. 843, c. 54.]

Careers Guidance

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will consider as a matter of urgency giving guidance on the provision made for careers guidance in secondary schools.

A survey of careers education in schools is currently being conducted by Her Majesty's inspectors. I do not envisage issuing further guidance until I have seen their report.

Teachers' Aides

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps she is taking to encourage local education authorities to increase the number and scope of teachers' aides; and if she will make a statement.

Local education authorities already understand the value of teachers' aides. Expenditure on the pay of non-teaching staff of all types in schools rose from £69 million in 1968–69 to about £108 million in 1971–72.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Iceland (Fishing Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the latest situation in the dispute with Iceland over the imposition of a 50-mile limit.

I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Members for Kingston upon Hull, North (Mr. McNamara) and Kingston upon Hull, West (Mr. James Johnson) on 20th November.—[Vol. 846. c. 904–5.]

Rhodesians (British Passports)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many British passports have been issued to Rhodesians since the unilateral declaration of independence in 1965.

I regret that this information is not readily available and the cost of obtaining it would not be justified.

Timothy Davey (Repatriation)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has received from the Republic of Turkey as to the repatriation of Timothy Davey; and whether he will make a statement.

No formal representations have been received. The legal issues involved are complex.

International Labour Organisation (Conventions)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if it is the policy of the Government to ensure that International Labour Organisation conventions which are ratified and operative within the United Kingdom are applied with equal force to Crown Colonies.

Yes.As a full member of the International Labour Organisation the British Government observes the requirements of the constitution.Article 35, paragraph 1, of the constitution of the International Labour Organisation requires members to undertake that conventions, which they have ratified in accordance with the provisions of the constitution, shall be applied to the non-metropolitan territories for whose international relations they are respon- sible except where the subject matter of the convention is inapplicable owing to the local conditions or subject to such modifications as may be necessary to adapt the convention to local conditions.British Dependent Territories are regarded as being non-metropolitan territories within the meaning of the International Labour Organisation constitution.

Argentina (British Art Works)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he proposes to make to the Argentine Government about the impounding by local authorities of art works by 15 British artists who were exhibiting through the Centre of Art and Communication in Buenos Aires in September, 1972.

It has been reported that 14 British artists were among those whose works were impounded when an international exhibition was closed by the police in Buenos Aires.I have asked Her Majesty's Ambassador in Buenos Aires for a full report and will write to the hon. Member when it has been received.

Northern Ireland

Government Of Ireland Act, 1920

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he intends to seek to repeal those sections of the Government of Ireland Act, 1920, whose continued existence, now that the Government has signed the Treaty of Accession with the European Economic Community, depends upon the existence of a Parliament at Stormont.

Posts And Telecommunications

Radio Carlisle

asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunication on what day he expects the first broadcast from Radio Carlisle: and if he will make a statement.

The BBC, which is primarily responsible for the extension of its services, tells me that it hopes to open Radio Carlisle in the autumn of 1973.

Bbc (Chairman)

asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications if he can now state the name of the new Chairman of the British Broadcasting Corporation.

Scotland

Licensing Courts (Retiring Age)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will introduce legislation to make a retiring age for those serving on licensing courts; and if he will make a statement.

Membership of licensing courts is one of the matters within the remit of the Clayson Committee on the Scottish Licensing Law. I shall await its report before considering any possible legislation on this subject.

Statutory Appointments

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many statutory appointments are within his patronage; how the posts are designated; who are the present holders; and what is the salary payable in each instance.

As I am responsible or jointly responsible with other Ministers for making in excess of 3,300 appointments, statutory or otherwise, the information is not easily available in comprehensive form. If the hon. Member would care to say in what area his interest lies I will try to assist him.

Roads

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what date he has fixed for the completion of a continuous dual carriageway or motorway between Aberdeen and the Central Belt of Scotland.

While substantial lengths of motorway and dual carriageway are already completed or in preparation on this route traffic volumes do not at present justify such provision over the entire length. My policy is to improve the route to the standards which are required as rapidly as statutory and construction procedures allow.

Physiotherapists

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the number of qualified physiotherapists known to be working within the National Health Service in Scotland in each year from 1967 to 1971; and how many were practising full-time or part-time in hospitals.

The numbers of whole time and part-time physiotherapists employed in the hospital service, which is the major employer of physiotherapists within the National Health Service in Scotland, are shown in the table below:

YearWhole-TimePart-TimeTotal
1967527170697
1968551179730
1969522218740
1970525238763
1971527278805
There may be a few physiotherapists employed in local authority health services but no information is available centrally and the numbers involved are likely to be small.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the starting salary of a three-year trained physiotherapist and a senior physiotherapist in Scotland; and how these salaries compare with England and Wales.

For these grades employed in the National Health Service in Scotland the commencing salaries are £1,110 and £1,290, respectively, and are the same as for England and Wales.

Blind Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland to what extent the Scottish Special Housing Association is exercising its discretion on rent rebate under Schedule 2 to the Housing (Financial Provisions) Scotland Act, 1972, to tenants in receipt of a blind person's pension.

In assessing a tenant's income for rent rebate purposes the association exercises its discretion to disregard entirely war disablement pensions, including those paid for blindness.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will seek to increase the number of young blind persons recuited for work in the Scottish Office.

My Department co-operates with the Department of Employment to enable any blind person with the appropriate skills to be considered for employment. As I informed my hon. Friend on 27th June, the Scottish Office, with the Civil Service Department and other Departments, is considering further action to increase the employment of registered disabled people generally. —[Vol. 839, c. 331.]

Police (Salary Structure)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the salary structure difference for police, all ranks, in Scotland compared with England and Wales; and how the new rates recently agreed upon compare.

The rates of pay for police officers in England and Wales—other than the Metropolitan Police—are the same as for Scottish officers.

Housing (Elderly And Disabled Persons)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will now send a circular to all local authorities in Scotland asking them to step up the building of sheltered housing for elderly and disabled persons;(2) if he will now request all local authorities in Scotland to compile a register of all disabled persons in need of sheltered housing.

Earlier this year I asked local authorities to assess the need in their areas for greater provision of sheltered housing, and recommended that they should plan to provide by the end of 1974 a minimum of 25 places in sheltered houses for each 1,000 persons aged 65 or over. I am about to review progress, and I will be considering in the course of my review whether more detailed information is needed about the potential demand for sheltered housing. Meanwhile those who wish to have such houses should apply to their local housing authority.

Hospitals (Geriatric Wards)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the waiting list for elderly people into geriatric wards in each hospital within the area governed by Western Regional Hospital Board.

At 31st October, 1972, the hospitals in the area of the Western Regional Hospital Board with a waiting list for admission to geriatric beds and the numbers waiting were:

HospitalNumber Waiting
(a) Assessment beds
Knightswood Hospital, Glasgow66
Lightburn Hospital, Glasgow92
Southern General Hospital, Glasgow19
Victoria Infirmary, Glasgow40
Ayrshire Central Hospital, Irvine269
Dumfries and Galloway Royal Infirmary, Dumfries10
Coathill Hospital, Coatbridge2
Cleland Hospital, near Motherwell4
Law Hospital, Carluke14
Royal Alexandra Infirmary Annexe, Paisley68
Stirling Royal Infirmary75
Falkirk and District Royal Infirmary1
660
(b) Long-stay beds
Calton Hospital, Campbeltown10
Witchburn House, Campbeltown7
Finnartmore Auxiliary Hospital, Kilmun, Argyll5
Dalintart Hospital, Oban8
Henry Brock Hospital, Alexandria104
Bridge of Weir Hospital45
Windsor Hospital, Falkirk39
Waverley House, Stranraer2
220
Total880

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many beds in geriatric wards in each Scottish hospital are occupied by elderly people who are well enough to leave hospital.

Alcoholic Drinks (Television Advertising)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will initiate, through his representative on the Scottish Council for Alcoholism, a proposal for banning of advertising of alcoholic drinks on television in Scotland, in view of the problem of alcoholism.

Edinburgh Airport

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now make a statement on the report he has received concerning the future of Edinburgh airport.

I am considering the report of the public inquiry into objections to the planning applications for a new runway and terminal facilities at Edinburgh airport and will announce my decision as soon as possible.

Alexandria Bypass

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects work to commence on the second stage of the Alexandria bypass.

Public Works Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will authorise a winter programme of public works to enable local authorities in Scotland to improve the infrastructure and to ease unemployment; and if he will make a statement.

The programme of additional public works which I initiated in July, 1971, extends over the current financial year and is providing substantial additional employment during this winter.

Scottish Council (Overseas Industrial Promotion)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the grants to the Scottish Council for overseas industrial promotion for the years 1971–72, 1972–73 and 1973–74.

I make a grant to the Scottish Council specifically to assist its campaign for the attraction of industrial investment from Europe. The grant in 1971–72 was £70,000; and for 1972–73 and 1973–74 the grant offered is £100,000 per annum, subject to agreed arrangements for matching funds being satisfied.

Wales

Fanfare For Europe

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what sum of money has been allocated to the Welsh Office to take part in the Fanfare for Europe.

Assistance for particular events is based on the nature and need of the proposed events themselves and there are no departmental allocations. However, contributions towards some of the events sponsored in Wales will be channelled through the Welsh Office Vote.

Medical Student Places

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what estimate he has made of the demand for medical student places from Wales for the next five years.

The provision of medical school places is determined by the national need for doctors. Current planning is based on a maximum of 4,100 pre-clinical entry places in Great Britain by the late 1970s.

Water Supplies

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will postpone the introduction of legislation on the organisation of water supplies in Wales until after the publication of the Crowther Report on the Constitution.

I do not think it necessary to have this report before introducing this legislation. The constitution of the proposed Welsh National Water Development Authority will be decided when the report is received.

National Health Service (Reorganisation)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many consultative meetings he has had with the staff of the Welsh Hospital Board before publishing his proposals for the reorganisation of the health service in Wales; and what were the dates of the meetings.

Frequent meetings were held with officers of the Welsh Hospital Board before the publication of the White Paper "National Health Service Reorganisation in Wales" (Cmnd. 5057). Formal meetings with the staff side of the Welsh Hospital Board were held on 27th July and 4th September this year.

Aberysrwyth—Shrewsbury Railway

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will request Professor Graham Rees to include in his study of transport services in Wales a special survey of any rundown which has occurred within the last two years in services on the Aberystwyth—Shrewsbury railway line.

No. This is an independent study being undertaken on behalf of the Welsh Council.