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Volume 847: debated on Wednesday 6 December 1972

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday 6th December 1972

Environment

Bricks

24.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied that the capacity of the brick industry is adequate for future demands; and if he will make a statement.

Brick producing capacity is increasing. I expect it to be adequate to meet the forecast demand for bricks.

M1-A1 Link

25.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will expedite the completion of the feasibility study of the M1-A1 link motorway.

Yes, Sir. The results of the study should be available by the end of December next year, about three months earlier than the original target date.

Radioactive Wastes (Disposal At Sea)

29.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the provisions in the new Convention which prohibit dumping in the sea of atomic waste, even in containers.

Article IV and Annex I prohibit the deliberate dumping of high level radioactive wastes except in serious emergencies. Article VI and Annex II require special permits for other radioactive wastes, taking full account of the recommendations of the International Atomic Energy Agency. In Article XII the parties pledge themselves to promote measures to protect the marine environment against radioactive pollutants from all sources, including vessels.

Planning Procedures

32 and 77.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if, in view of the inadequacy of the public notice system of notification of planning applications for the purpose of lodging objections, he will amend the procedures to allow for direct notification to persons likely to be adversely affected by such planning applications, if agreed to, in all cases;(2) if he will introduce amendments to present planning procedures to allow for greater consultation between planning authorities and those persons directly affected or likely to be so affected by planning applications made by local authorities, Government Departments and private persons.

My right hon. and learned Friend agrees that there is scope for extending the statutory requirements for publicity. In the meantime, further guidance will be issued to local planning authorities. However, a universal requirement to advertise and notify would be too sweeping, and a large measure of discretion must be left with local authorities. The Government accept that public and private proposals should be treated similarly.

74.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that local planning authorities are ensuring that information required from them in connection with appeals under Section 36 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971 are submitted promptly, in accordance with paragraph 2 of his Department's circular 23/72; and if he will make a statement.

In general, yes, though there are now 50 per cent. more appeals than a year ago. If my hon. Friend has particular cases in mind I should be glad to look into them.

Heavy Lorries

34.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when talks will be resumed with the Common Market about the weight of heavy lorries.

Further ministerial consultations are planned for 18th and 19th December, 1972.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the regulations now in force regarding the entry into Great Britain of the heavy lorries from the countries of the European Economic Community; whether they have to be licensed and insured and carry certificates of roadworthiness; and to what extent the position will change on 1st January, 1973 on Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community.

A list is given below. Like all foreign vehicles, heavy lorries from EEC countries entering Great Britain are subject to bilateral agreements regarding licences and insurance. Neither they nor British vehicles are required to carry certificates of roadworthiness. There will be no change on 1st January, 1973.

  • 1. Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act 1972
    • Section 3(3).
    • Schedule 2.
  • 2. Road Traffic Act 1972
    • Sections 1, 2, 3, 4(4), 5(1), 5(2), 6(1). 6(2), 8(3), 9(3), 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25(4), 26(2), 29, 30(1), 30(2), 31(1), 32(3), 33, 34(4), 35(3), 36, 40(5), 44(1), 45(7), 46(1), 46(2), 46(3), 50(5), 51(1), 51(3), 53(4), 54(5), 54(6), 55(5), 56(3), 56(5) 57(9), 59(3), 60(3), 61(2), 62, 65(5), 66(5), 81(1), 81(2), 84(1), 84(2), 88(6), 89(3), 91(1), 91(2), 99(a), 99(b), 101(4), 101(6), 103(2), 104(4), 104(5), 111(2), 112(1), 112(2), 114(3), 119(2), 126(3), 135(2), 136, 137(3), 143, 147(4), 151(2), 159, 160(1), 161(4), 161(5), 162(1), 162(3), 164(1), 165, 166(1), 167, 168(3), 169(1), 170(1), 170(2), 170(3), 170(4), 170(5), 170(6), 171, 172, 174, 175, 187(2).
    • Schedule 1, paragraph 5(1), 5(2).
    • Regulations made under this Act.
    • The Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1969.
    • The Goods Vehicles (Plating and Testing) Regulations 1971.
    • The Heavy Goods Vehicles (Drivers' Licences) Regulations 1969.
  • 3. Vehicles Excise Act 1971
    • Section 26
  • 4. Transport Act 1968
    • Sections 60(1)(A), 60(1)(B), 66(2), 69(5), 96(1), 96(2), 96(3), 96(5), 96(6), 99, 99(5).
    • Regulations made under this Act.
    • Drivers' Hours (Goods Vehicles) (Keeping of Records) Regulations 1970.
  • 5. Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967
    • Sections 1, 6, 9, 11, 13, 14, 16, 17, 19, 23, 25, 26, 31(3), 31(5), 42(1) 42(4), 43(2), 43(3), 78(A), 80, 80(9), 85, 86(2), 86(3), 87, 96, 146(2), 146(3), 147, 233, 234, 235.
  • asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the legislation and regulations under which the owners and drivers of heavy goods vehicles coming to this country from the Common Market countries can be stopped by the police, charged and prosecuted, for offences against the Road Traffic Acts; and whether this will continue after 1st January 1973 on Great Britain's entry into the European Economic Community.

    The answer to the first part of the Question is the Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act 1972: the answer to the second part is "Yes".

    Rented Accommodation (London)

    36.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement concerning the supply of privately rented accommodation in London.

    78.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much accommodation his Department estimates to be available for renting from private landlords on new lettings in London at rents of under £10 per week.

    We have not made, nor does the basis exist for making, any such estimate.

    Derelict Land

    37.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many representations he has received to extend the period during which grants are payable for the clearance of minor dereliction and local eyesores beyond June 1973; and what replies he has sent.

    I have had about a dozen specific requests that this scheme should be extended, and there have been a number of inquiries. Inquirers have been told that the working of the scheme is now being reviewed.

    40.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what assistance he is giving to the County Borough of Doncaster in its efforts to reclaim the derelict land of Doncaster Carr by the use of pit waste.

    My Department is in touch with Doncaster Corporation about its proposals for the treatment of this area.

    Development Plans (Objections)

    38.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will now consider seeking powers to provide grants for local community groups who wish to contest development plans on general civic and amenity grounds before public inquiries.

    No, Sir; but I am considering ways of encouraging closer cooperation between local voluntary organisations, with the aim of helping them make a more effective contribution to the planning process.

    Housing Associations And Housing Societies

    39.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to prevent the earning of professional fees by members of the committees of housing associations and housing societies and to require them to put building programmes out to tender.

    M42

    41 and 79.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) why he has not allowed more than the statutory six weeks for objections to the route of the Bromsgrove section of the proposed M42 motorway;(2) whether he will extend the period of time for objections to the route of the Bromsgrove section of the proposed M42 motorway.

    As announced last March, proposals for the whole of the M42 are being accelerated and, consequently, the objection period was limited to six weeks only. However, arrangements are now being made for a public inquiry to be held next summer into these and the related proposals for the northern section of the M40. All objections received in the meantime will be fully considered.

    British Waterways Board

    42.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement concerning his proposals for the British Waterways Board, and in particular the future of its Freight Services Division.

    Discussions are continuing with the board on the details of the proposed reorganisation.

    Railways (Subsidy)

    43.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what estimate he has made of the cost of subsidy to British Rail for the year 1973–74, in respect of railway routes to be kept open and operational as socially and economically desirable, though failing to pay their way; what comparisons he made thereby with the figure for 1971–72; and what application has been received from British Rail, and what estimate he has made of the cost of keeping open the main line, Oxford, Evesham, Worcester, Malvern, Hereford, Western Region, compared with 1971–72.

    For passenger services in 1973, about £75 million—about 10 per cent. more than for 1971. For services grant-aided on the Oxford-Hereford line, £565,000—about 35 per cent. more than for 1971.

    Housing Finance Act (Publicity)

    44.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much has been spent to date on advertising the Housing Finance Act 1972.

    72.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much has been spent to date on advertising in the Press and on television the provisions of the Housing Finance Act.

    The estimated cost of television and press advertisements to which we are committed until early next year to inform tenants of their rights under the new Act is about £590,000. Other expenditure on publicity during the same period is estimated at about £42,000.

    Housing (Dangerous Sites)

    45.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek powers to give additional protection to purchasers of new houses against jerry builders and developers who leave sites in a dangerous condition.

    Land Reclamation (Conisbrough)

    46.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on what steps he intends to take on land reclamation in the Conisbrough Urban District Council area with special reference to the pit heaps at the Cadeby Colliery and the now closed Denaby Main Colliery.

    The West Riding County Council plans to reclaim 30 acres in the next few years at these two collieries. My regional office is discussing with the county council ways of achieving this.

    Local Authority Elections

    47.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he is taking to publicise the first elections to local authorities set up under the Local Government Act, 1972.

    Consultations on this matter will be opened with the local authority associations shortly.

    Greater London Development Plan

    48.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has yet received the report of the Layfield Panel of Inquiry into the Greater London Development Plan; and whether he will publish it at the earliest opportunity so that the public may study and comment on its findings.

    I expect to receive the report in the next few days. I cannot yet say when it will be published, but it will be at the earliest practicable date.

    81.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the adoption by the Greater London Council of new motorway proposals differing from those presented to the Layfield Panel of Inquiry, he will institute a new public inquiry with these new proposals, or alternatively refer them for examination to the Layfield Panel.

    The Greater London Council has not proposed any formal amendment to the primary road proposals contained in the Greater London Development Plan, on which the panel of inquiry was asked to report.

    National Housing Corporation

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in view of the decline in house building, he will consider taking steps to establish a national housing corporation.

    Housing (Ugandan Asians)

    50.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on his intentions in respect of extra assistance to local authorities to provide housing for Ugandan Asian refugees.

    The Government already give assistance to local authorities in ways which help them, among other things, to provide housing in their areas. They have no plans to give them extra assistance specifically directed towards the housing of the Uganda Asian refugees.

    A13

    51.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the outcome of a meeting attended by 600 people in Rainham, Essex, on Friday, 17th November, 1972, details of which have been sent to him, if he will now announce that he will exclude from consideration the widening of the A13 road through this village.

    No. My right hon. and learned Friend does not yet have all the information necessary to decide on the merits of widening or diverting this route.

    71.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects a start to be made on the widening of the A13 from Kents Hill Road to Bradley Avenue, Thundersley.

    The starting date cannot be forecast until the scheme has been accepted into my principal roads preparation list.

    Rent Rebates

    52.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the number of people currently in receipt of rent rebate; and by how much this falls short of the Government's estimate.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to him on 29th November, 1972, in answer to a similar Question.—[Vol. 847, c. 138.]

    Rate Increases (Exchequer Subsidies)

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what estimate he has made of the cost to public funds of the additional Exchequer subsidies to local authorities to enable them to restrict increases in the rates.

    The orders now before the House provide for rate support grants in 1973–74 of £2,875 million. The latest estimate for 1972–73 is £2,522 million. This increase reflects both the expected increase in local authority expenditure in real terms and the increase in the percentage of that expenditure to be met by the Exchequer to assist local authorities to hold down the level of rates.

    Railway Branch Lines

    54.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the various reports prepared in his Department concerning the future of branch lines on British Railways so that the whole future of British Railways can be debated publicly before any final decisions are taken.

    I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member for Derby, South (Mr. Walter Johnson) on 8th November.—[Vol. 845, c. 999–1000.]

    Packaging

    55.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans the Government have for setting up a working party to consider the environmental difficulties in relation to packaging; and what plans there are to coordinate the work of the three study groups involved with tin, glass and plastics.

    This was discussed at a national conference of interested bodies convened in London last year, and my Department has since been considering the conclusions. The question of co-ordinating the work of the three study groups will be further considered as soon as their reports are available.

    Harlow New Town

    57.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects to announce a decision on the future expansion of Harlow new town.

    I am not yet at the stage of deciding whether to make a draft order for the extension of the designated area. If such an order is made, the timing of a final decision will depend on whether objections are made which require the holding of a public inquiry.

    Rent Rebates And Allowances (Advisory Committee)

    58.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is now in a position to announce the names of the chairman and members whom he is to appoint to serve on the advisory committee on rent rebates and allowances.

    I expect to be able to announce the names of the chairman and members before long.

    Industrial Pollution And Nuisance

    59.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will introduce legislation to establish local tribunals exercising power to control the emission of smoke, dust and noise from industrial undertakings, as alternatives to prosecutions under public health legislation, or the common law action for nuisance.

    No, but my right hon. and learned Friend proposes to strengthen anti-pollution measures as and when necessary.

    Colliery Waste (Disposal)

    60 and 88.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what steps he now proposes to take to end the tipping of colliery waste on Durham beaches; and if he will make a statement;(2) what proposals he now has for the application of remedial measures arising from the practice of disposing of colliery waste on beaches.

    I am still considering this. A statement will be made as soon as possible.

    Drinking And Driving (Law)

    61.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied with the state of the existing law on drinking and driving; and if he will make a statement.

    Housing Cost Yardsticks

    62.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will undertake an immediate review of the housing cost yardsticks for local authority schemes in inner London, in view of the large increase in costs since the present yardsticks were fixed.

    The yardstick is kept under continuous review, and, as announced by my right hon. and learned Friend's predecessor on 2nd November, we are now prepared to give special yardstick allowances where local market conditions make this necessary.

    Capital Projects (Portsmouth)

    63.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received from Portsmouth City Council about the need for approval to go ahead with schemes for capital expenditure despite the economic freeze; and what reply he has sent.

    Council Housing (Sale)

    64.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will ascertain and publish the figures for the sale of local authority dwellings in the second quarter of 1971, the second quarter of 1972, the third quarter of 1971 and the third quarter of 1972, respectively.

    Local authorities in England and Wales sold 4,346 dwellings in the second quarter of 1971 and 11,288 in the second quarter of 1972; the corresponding figures for the third quarter of those two years were 4,408 and 11,493, respectively.

    Defective Traffic Signals

    65.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why, in view of the fact that a motorist found stopping at a defective red traffic signal is unable to proceed or reverse without the possibility of committing a traffic offence, he will not introduce a regulation or legislation to permit such a motorist to treat the defective red traffic signal light as if it were a stop or give way signal and to proceed with care and caution.

    Because it is more important to preserve drivers' confidence in traffic signals generally.

    Liverpool Airport (Management)

    66.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will ensure that the decision as to whether Liverpool airport will be managed and financed after 1st April, 1974 by the Liverpool District Council or the Merseyside Metropolitan County Council will be decided by the latter body after its election in spring 1973.

    Future responsibility for Liverpool airport will be the subject of consultations with the local authorities concerned before the final decision is given effect by order of my right hon. and learned Friend under the Local Government Act.

    Rents

    67.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will state, from figures available to him, how many rents have increased and how many have decreased in total since the commencement of the Housing Finance Act; and if he will summarise the position in Sheffield in particular.

    I regret that this information cannot be provided because it is impossible to know how tenants have been affected individually by the many variable factors. Sheffield Corporation has, however, told me that in October the rent of 3 per cent. of its dwellings was not increased at all and the rent of a further 6 per cent. was increased by 20p or less. The number of tenants getting a rebate, excluding those in receipt of supplementary benefit, has almost trebled.

    85.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment approximately how many council house tenants are paying more rent as a result of the Housing Finance Act.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given earlier today to the hon. Member for Southampton, Itchen (Mr. R. C. Mitchell) in answer to a similar Question.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many housing authorities have applied to him to make a direction under Section 62(4) of the Housing Finance Act, 1972, that the increase of rents in 1972–73 or 1973–74 shall be a lower amount than would otherwise be required by Part VI of the Act; how many such directions he has made; and what lower amounts have been specified in each such direction.

    Following are the 170 housing authorities to which a direction has been given in respect of the increase to be made in October 1972, with the amount of the direction in each case. In 12 other cases no direction was given and two applications are under consideration. Thirteen housing authorities have so far applied for a direction in respect of the increase to be made in April 1973; no directions have yet been given.

    P
    Accrington BC95
    Altrincham BC98
    Ashington UDC70
    Ashton under Lyne BC98
    Audenshaw UDC70
    Barking LBC90
    P
    Barnsley CBC96
    Barrowford UDC95
    Basildon UDC95
    Bath CBC90
    Batley BC75
    Bedford BC85
    Bentley with Arksey UDC97
    Bexley LBC85
    Billinge and Winstanley UDC97
    Birkenhead CBC90
    Birmingham CBC55
    Bishop Auckland UDC85
    Blackburn CBC70
    Blaydon UDC90
    Blyth BC95
    Bolton CBC70
    Bootle CBC97
    Bradford CBC10
    Braintree and Bocking UDC98
    Bredbury and Romily UDC98
    Brent LBC55
    Bristol CBC95
    Bromley LBC95
    Bromsgrove UDC95
    Bungay UDC98
    Burnley CBC75
    Burnley RDC85
    Camden LBC85
    Canvey Island UDC95
    Carnforth UDC96
    Castleford BC90
    Castle Ward RDC98
    Church UDC65
    Cirencester UDC75
    Clowne RDC90
    Colne BC90
    Consett UDC90
    Corby UDC97
    Coventry CBC50
    Crewe BC98
    Darlington BC85
    Daventry BC90
    Denton UDC98
    Dodworth RDC90
    Doncaster CBC90
    Droylesden UDC65
    Dudley CBC85
    Easington RDC90
    Eccles BC85
    Ellesmere Port BC95
    Felling UDC80
    Fulwood UDC35
    Gateshead CBC75
    Glossop BC85
    Greenwich LBC75
    Hackney LBC90
    Halstead UDC95
    Hammersmith LBC75
    Haringey LBC85
    Harrow LBC80
    Havering LBC90
    Heckmondwike UDC95
    Hereford BC96
    Hetton UDC90
    Hindley UDC98
    Houghton-le-Spring UDC97
    Hounslow LBC85
    Huddersfield CBC98
    Huyton with Roby UDC90
    Isles of Scilly5
    Islington LBC70
    Jarrow BC90

    P

    Keighley BC90
    Kerrier RDC95
    Kidderminster BC85
    Kingston upon Hull CBC75
    Kingswood UDC97
    Kirkby UDC90
    Kirkby in Ashfield UDC97
    Knottingley UDC85
    Lambeth LBC55
    Leeds CBC45
    Lees UDC90
    Letchworth UDC98
    Lewisham LBC75
    Lincoln CBC80
    Liverpool CBC75
    Longbenton UDC85
    Longdendale UDC85
    Long Eaton UDC90
    Lowestoft BC95
    Manchester CBC85
    Maneotsfield UDC95
    Market Rasen UDC80
    Maryport UDC65
    Merton LBC90
    Middleton BC95
    Milton Keynes DC25
    Morpeth RDC98
    Nelson BC90
    Newcastle under Lyme BC96
    Newcastle upon Tyne CBC35
    Normanton UDC95
    Northampton DC25
    Northwich UDC95
    Norwich CBC90
    Nottingham CBC85
    Oldham CBC85
    Peterborough DC3·5
    Reading CBC97
    Redditch DCNil
    Richmond RDC10
    Rotherham CBC70
    Rotherham RDC80
    Royton UDC65
    Rtincorn DC1·63
    Ryton UDC90
    St. Helens CBC80
    St. Thomas RDC40
    Salford CBC90
    Seaham UDC60
    Seaton Valley UDC80
    Shildon UDC80
    Skelmersdale and Holland UDC97
    Sowerby Bridge UDC40
    Spennymoor UDC70
    Staines UDC97
    Stalybridge BC90
    Standish with Langtree UDC90
    Stanley UDC (Co. Durham)85
    Stanley UDC (Yorkshire)98
    Stevenage UDC95
    Stockport CBC65
    Sunderland CBC70
    Sutton LBC10
    Sutton in Ashfield UDC80
    Tamworth BC95
    Telford DC20
    Tenterden BC90
    Todmorden BC90
    Tower Hamlets LBC95
    Tyldesley UDC98
    Tynemouth CBC85
    Wallsend BC98

    P

    Waltham Forest LBC70
    Waltham Holy Cross UDC85
    Wandsworth LBC75
    Warrington CBC98
    Warrington RDC96
    Washington UDC80
    Washington DC2
    Wath upon Dearne UDC95
    West Bromwich CBC65
    Wharfedale RDC98
    Whickham UDC80
    Whiston RDC80
    Whitley Bay BC95
    Widnes BC95
    Wigan CBC85
    Winsford UDC35
    Worksop BC80
    Worksop RDC65
    Wortley RDC45
    York CBC80

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish a list of the average standard exclusive rents and the average exclusive rents actually demanded as at 30th September 1972 by housing authorities within the Greater London area.

    This information is not available in the Department and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Great Model Of Westminster

    68.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will extend the Great Model of Westminster to include those buildings now scheduled for preservation, namely, Richmond Terrace, Scotland Yard, the Norman Shaw North building, the Foreign Office, Home Office, India Office, and Bryden's Great George Street Treasury.

    Anti-Litter Campaign (Cost)

    69.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the cost of the anti-litter poster campaign.

    I am informed by the Keep Britain Tidy Group that expenditure on the 1972 poster campaign amounted to about £100,000.

    Motor Vehicles (Mud Flaps)

    70.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he proposes to make the fitting of mud flaps obligatory on all vehicles; and if he will make a statement.

    No. Experiments have shown such mud flaps to be of little value on private cars but I am initiating research on improvements in lorry mud-guarding, including mud flaps.

    Building Contractors (Public Works Contracts)

    73.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will consider making it a condition for inclusion in the selected list of tenderers for public work contracts that building contractors employ the recognised quota of indentured apprentices.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave him on 30th November. Similar arguments apply to both defence and other public works contracts.—[Vol. 847, c. 210.]

    Driving Licences

    75.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will list the organisations which he has consulted in his proposal to issue driving licences for life.

    My Department wrote on 5th October, 1971, to 56 organisations covering a wide range of commercial and motoring interests.

    Motorways (Speed Limit)

    76.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what legislative steps he intends to take to increase the maximum speed limit permissible on motorways.

    Football Grounds (Safety)

    80.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions he is having on the implementation of the Wheatley Report on Safety at Football Grounds.

    I have held no formal discussions myself, though I have spoken informally with the football authorities about this and related questions. Officials of my Department have taken part in discussions organised by the Home Office.

    Road Casualties

    82.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what further action he now proposes to take to reduce the number of road casualties.

    Measures to reduce the number and severity of accidents are always being sought and examined.

    London Boroughs Association

    83.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he last met representatives of the London Boroughs Association.

    On 17th November, along with representatives of other local authority associations and the Greater London Council, to discuss the financial assistance to be given to local authorities in England and Wales in 1973–74.

    Local Authority Water Undertakings

    84.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will request local authorities not to sell their water undertakings, and ask those authorities involved not to recommence negotiations for the sale of those undertakings.

    As the Water Companies Association was told on 14th November that in the light of the announcement in the Queen's Speech that the Water Bill was to be introduced this Session, we would not be prepared to entertain any applications for such transfers where the necessary formalities had not been completed by the date of this letter. On the other hand we see no reason why such transfers which had already been agreed upon by the parties concerned should not be the subject of applications to my department for orders under the Water Act 1945, provided there are technical advantages.

    M16

    86.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on what date he now expects the M16, from the A10 to the M11, to be open to traffic.

    Centre Point

    87.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what further action he is taking about the vacant office building at Centre Point.

    As I stated in reply to a Question by the hon. Member for Holborn and St. Pancras, South (Mrs. Lena Jeger) on 20th November, I am keeping the situation under review.—[Vol. 846, c. 298.]

    Improvement Grants

    89.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will consider altering the provisions in discretionary and standard improvement grants so that if any dwelling receives an improvement grant and that dwelling is sold within three years 50 per cent. of

    IMPROVEMENT GRANTS APPROVED, ENGLAND AND WALES
    (Numbers of dwellings)
    Discretionary Third QuarterStandard and Special Third QuarterTotal all Grants Third Quarter
    Tenure197119721971197219711972
    Local Authority13,86925,3257232,47614,59227,801
    Owner Occupied12,34029,86910,62710,58022,96740,449
    Other tenures including Housing Associations9,13013,9454,3813,44513,51117,390
    Total35,33969,13915,73116,50151,07085,640

    Building Land (Municipal Acquisitions)

    90.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if his housing action group will investigate the extent to which certain local authorities in the greater London area have recently accumulated land from private builders, to whom planning permission has already been granted, to hold for future municipal development.

    I do not think a specific investigation of this topic by the action group is necessary, but it is open to the group to discuss it during its visits to individual authorities where it thinks this would be helpful.

    Private And Public Transport

    91.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what guidelines, based on information available from the Road Research and Trans- the grant is repayable to the local authority.

    This is one of the matters which will be looked at very carefully in the course of our review of policy on older housing.

    Improvement Grants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many discretionary and standard improvement grants were approved in the third quarter of 1971 and the third quarter of 1972, respectively; and of these totals how many were for local authorities, owner-occupiers, landlords with sitting tenants, and others, respectively.

    This precise breakdown is not available but detailed figures are as follows:portation Laboratory, he is now giving local authorities about achieving a correct balance between the private motor vehicle and public transport in towns and cities; and what specific advice he has given the city of Sheffield.

    The correct balance between private and public transport will depend on local conditions. I have given no specific advice to Sheffield.

    Uganda Resettlement Board

    92.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on what dates he had discussions with the Uganda Resettlement Board; and what matters were discussed.

    Ministers and officials of my Department keep in close touch with the chairman, members and officials of the board. It would not be appropriate to give details of the contents of such discussions.

    Motorway Programme

    93.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) in view of the need to know future motorway routes, if he will have placed in the Library of the House of Commons a map, corrected every three months, or more frequently, showing the latest public information about motorway planning;(2) when he will be able to publish a national map to show the motorway programme for the future, to include in detail, so far as made public, the latest plans for city motorways as well as intercity routes.

    A map showing the motorway and trunk road programme will be published in the New Year and annually thereafter. I will arrange for a copy to be placed in the Library. Local authority motorway schemes will not be shown but these are in any case limited in number.

    Luton Airport (Inquiry)

    94.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will now announce the findings of the public inquiry into Luton Airport.

    Canvey Island Bridges

    95.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects the bridges linking Canvey Island with the mainland now under construction to be completed and open to traffic.

    Operation Eyesore

    96.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the numbers of projects in Operation Eyesore and the cost at which they are being undertaken, specifying the figures for each region.

    Close to 10,000 projects for cleaning up and beautifying local areas of dereliction and ugliness have now been approved at a cost of nearly £22½ million. The following table gives the numbers and cost of projects approved in each region since the scheme commenced in February this year.Following are the figures at 30th November 1972.

    RegionNumber of projects approvedEstimated cost £
    Northern2,1374,474,379
    North-West4,70912,191,957
    Yorkshire and Humberside2,3294,170,337
    East Midland87758,276
    West Midland373545,111
    South-West92185,857
    All Regions9,727£22,325,917

    National Car Parks Ltd (Charges)

    97.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what dispensation from the Counter-Inflation (Temporary Provisions) Act he has given to National Car Parks Limited to enable it to raise its parking charges during the Christmas period above those charged on 6th November.

    None. A regular seasonal increase would be permissible if it did not exceed last year's increase.

    Traffic Growth

    98.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will set up a working party to study and analyse the growth of traffic in ten major city centres in the United Kingdom.

    Swimming Pools (Planning Control)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek powers to make the construction of swimming pools in the gardens of private houses a matter for which planning permission is required, in order to protect the amenities and welfare of the immediate neighbours.

    No; but the new General Development Order which we intend to lay before the House shortly will include some changes in the permissions granted for development within the curtilage of a dwelling-house.

    Water Resources (Reorganisation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names of those river authorities which have dissented from his proposals for the reorganisation of water services.

    The Association of River Authorities has recently expressed again its support for the reorganisation. I have no means of knowing whether any individual river authority now dissents from this view.The Great Ouse, Lincolnshire, Welland and Nene, and Wye River Authorities wrote to us shortly after the statement in the House last December, expressing opposition to the general idea of multipurpose authorities.

    Bridges (Design Studies)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received from the construction industry on the subject of bridge design and construction over the past two years; and what replies he has given.

    Following the appointment in November, 1970, by the then Secretary of State for the Environment in association with the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales of an independent technical committee to examine the basis of design and method of erection of large steel box girder bridges, representations were received from the Constructional Engineering Union expressing its concern regarding safety aspects during the erection of this type of bridge.These representations were taken into account by the committee in framing, the recommendations contained in its interim report published by HMSO in September, 1971. A number of these recommendations were implemented forthwith for work controlled by the Department and strongly advocated for adoption by other Authorities. Aside from this, approaches have been made from time to time by various organisations on matters of commercial interest. These have been dealt with on their merits.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek facili- ties to hold international discussions on the subject of bridge design, method of construction and application of safety measures.

    Discussions on the design, fabrication and erection of steel box girder bridges will be held in London on 13th-14th February, 1973, under the auspices of the Institutions of Civil, Structural and Highway Engineers. Consideration will no doubt be given to the desirability of arranging for similar discussions in relation to other forms of bridge construction.

    Zebra Zig-Zag Crossings

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what assessment has been made of the zebra zig-zag crossings; and what steps are being taken to publicise the purpose of these markings on roads.

    Studies of driving and pedestrian behaviour have been started. The effect on accidents cannot be fully assessed until after November, 1973, when all the crossings will have been marked. Publicity is provided through the Press, television, posters and leaflets.

    Sport (Value Added Tax)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consultation his Department has had with the Sports Council on the effect of value added tax on British sport; what views have been put to the Department by the Sports Council, and if he will make a statement.

    The Sports Council has established a working group to study the net effect of value added tax on sport. The chairman of the council will be letting me have his council's views as soon as he can.

    Sewage Discharge (Hayling Island)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied that the proposed scheme for discharging additional sewage into tidal creeks on Hayling Island meets the criteria now being applied by his Department in its attempts to minimise environmental and, in particular, estuarial pollution; and if he will make a statement.

    It is for the Hampshire River Authority to decide what discharges should be permitted and it has given its consent. But I understand that apart from storm overflows following long wet periods only fully treated sewage effluent will be discharged from the sewage works serving Hayling Island.

    Motor Car Registration Documents

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether it is still his intention to discontinue the recording of previous owners in car registration documents, thus encouraging dishonest car-dealers fraudulently to misdescribe used cars with less chance of detection.

    The new type of registration document to be issued from 1974 under the centralised vehicle licensing system will include only the current owner's name and address. The expense and inconvenience of providing otherwise could not be justified. But when a car is with a dealer the registration document will still give the name and address of the last private owner; enforcement officers will be able to obtain other previous owners' names and addresses on inquiry of my Department.

    Poisonous Waste (Dumping Sites)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has received satisfactory assurances from local authorities that sites selected for the dumping of poisonous waste are so situated and controlled as to ensure that there will be no seepage from corroded containers into waterways and no contamination of neighbouring land.

    Local authorities are well aware of the potential dangers of pollution of water by the dumping of poisonous waste. I have no reason to believe that they, and river authorities, are not taking full advantage of the Deposit of Poisonous Waste Act 1972 to exercise such control over the operation of authorised tipping sites as they consider necessary.

    Coastal Oil Pollution

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many cases of coastal pollution by oil are known to have occurred in Great Britain in each of the last five years; and in how many of these incidents the origin of the oil has been traced.

    Recorded coastal oil pollution incidents in Great Britain during the last five financial years are tabulated below. Occasionally several neighbouring local authorities have reported oil ashore, subsequently established as having come from a common source: each such report is recorded as a separate incident. Since July, 1968, the origin of 69 recorded incidents has been traced; the number of sources of the pollution was 14.

    Financial yearCoastal Pollution Incidents
    1968–69 (from July, 1968)18
    1969–70130
    1970–7177
    1971–7257
    1972–73 (to date)25

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many cases of pollution of the Cumberland coast by oil have been reported to his Department in each of the last five years.

    Three incidents of oil pollution are known to have occurred on the Cumberland coast; all were in 1969.

    Housing Finance Acts (Defaults)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities are still in breach of the Housing Act; and what steps he is taking against them.

    My right hon. and learned Friend has made default orders under the Housing Finance Act against three authorities. In two of these cases he has also directed an extraordinary audit to be held.

    Council House Building

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give the reasons why the number of local authority houses started in England fell from over 31,000 in the second quarter of 1970 to just over 22,000 in the second quarter of 1972.

    Local authorities are not restricted by the Government as to the number of houses they may build to meet local housing needs. The figures referred to therefore reflect the aggregated decisions taken by local authorities in pursuance of their housing responsibilities.

    Transportation Studies

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the population figures for those areas in which his Department has contributed, or is to contribute to, the cost of transportation studies.

    For studies completed since January, 1971, in progress or about to begin, the area population figures are as follows:—

    Study AreaPopulation (Thousands)
    Barnsley75
    Bed worth/Nuneaton124
    Blackpool151
    Brighton/Hove300
    Bristol430
    Cambridge100
    Chelmsford82
    Cheltenham97
    Coventry306
    Doncaster86
    Greater Gloucester291
    Great Yarmouth/Lowestoft100
    Grimsby130
    South Hampshire I & II820
    Herne Bay/Whitstable48
    Mid Hertfordshire135
    South West Herefordshire224
    West Herefordshire113
    High Wycombe82
    Horley15
    Hull302
    Ipswich100
    Leicester450
    Lincoln107
    Luton188
    Macclesfield50
    Greater Manchester2,500
    Medway Towns206
    Norwich164
    Nottingham560
    Sheffield/Rotherham810
    Slough135
    Mid Staffordshire160
    Thurrock114
    Torbay100
    Tyne Wear1,400
    Warwick/Leamington79
    Wellingborough33
    West Midlands2,500
    Weston-super-Mare43
    Wigan79
    Woking77
    Worcester70
    Worthing80

    Bonfires

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek powers to prohibit garden bonfires in smokeless zones.

    No. Local authorities have adequate powers to deal with bonfires, where necessary, under the powers of Part III of the Public Health Act, 1936, relating to statutory nuisance.

    Roads (Kent)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what roads in north and mid-Kent are expected to be built, modified or re-routed by the Department of the Environment within the next five years.

    Work on the following major schemes on existing trunk roads in Kent is expected to be completed within the next five years.

  • A2 Commercial Road to Gunn Lane Link Road, Strood.
    • Boughton and Dunkirk By-pass.
    • Harbledown By-pass Stage 1.
    • Harbledown By-pass Stage 2.
    • Bridge By-pass, near Canterbury.
    • Lydden to Dover Diversion.
    • Townwall Street Diversion, Dover.
  • M20 Mid Kent Motorway (Swanley to Wrotham).
    • Mid Kent Motorway (Ashford to Folkestone).
    • South Orbital Route (Dartford to Swanley).
  • M25 Staines-Wrotham Motorway (Godstone to Westerham).
    • Staines-Wrotham Motorway (Wester-ham to Sevenoaks).
    • Staines-Wrotham Motorway (Seven-oaks to Wrotham).
  • A2 Widening of Corporation Street, Rochester (including Star Hill Roundabout).
    • Dualling—Denstead Lane to Staines Farm.
    • Dualling—Bishopsbourne Road to Black Robin Lane, Barham.
    • Dualling—Barham Crossroads to Ropersole Farm.
    • Reconstruction of Limekiln Viaduct, Dover.
  • A20 Roundabout at Junction with A25 at Wrotham Heath.
    • Roundabout at Junction with A252 at Charing.
  • In addition a number of small schemes and regular maintenance work are planned for trunk roads in the county.

    International Anti-Dumping Agreement

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why the subject of oil pollution was excluded from the International Anti-Dumping Agreement.

    Housing Land (Sheffield)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what land has been made available for housing construction in the Sheffield area in the current year; and what information he has about the amount to be released next year for private construction, private houses constructed by the city council through public works departments or contracted for sale, and normal council houses for rent.

    Details of the amount of land released or to be released by local authorities in the Sheffield area are not available. Agreement in principle has been given to one scheme of council building for sale. The council house programmes for next year are at present being discussed with the local authorities concerned.

    Water And Sewerage

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on what date he received the communication dated 14th November, 1972 sent to him by the various municipal associations concerning the reorganisation of the water and sewerage services; when he replied to it; and whether he can given an affirmative assurance as requested in the final paragraph of their communication.

    The letter was received on 16th November and answered on 24th November. There will be ample opportunity for further debate when the Bill is published.

    Motor Vehicles (Parking)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the damage to the environment, he will introduce legislation making it an offence for vehicles to be parked on the pavement and other pedestrian ways and limit such parking to the high-roads.

    Motor Vehicles (Tyre Safety)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why, in the interests of road safety, he will not request all tyre manufacturers to have a red printed warning strip of moulded rubber inserted in the tyre tread in all motor tyres at the level where the absence of tread makes the tyre dangerous, so that as the tyre wears the inner red warning signal becomes clearly visible.

    Scotland

    Rents

    99.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the ratio of average housing rents to average family incomes in Scotland in the latest period of 12 months for which figures are available; what is his estimate of the corresponding ratio for England; and, from information available to him from international sources, what is his estimate for the United States of America, France, West Germany, Italy and Sweden.

    In 1970, the latest year for which figures are available, average house rents were 4·2 per cent. of gross household income in Scotland and 7·6 per cent. in England and Wales. Comparisons with other countries are not useful, chiefly because housing subsidy arrangements vary widely.

    Riding Academies

    100.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will seek powers to license riding academies in Scotland.

    Local authorities already have statutory powers to license riding academies.

    Children In Care

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the ratio of Scottish children taken into care through homelessness compared to England and Wales.

    For the year 1971 the ratio of children taken into care through homelessness in Scotland, per 10,000 children under 18, was 4·72. The comparative—and still provisional—figure in England and Wales, for the 12 months to 31st March, 1972, was 2·20.

    Fire Precautions Act

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many hotels and boarding houses required to register under the Fire Precautions Act have now done so; and if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the relevant detailed statistics for Scotland.

    I understand that at 30th November 1972 the numbers of applications received for a fire certificate under the Fire Precautions (Hotels and Boarding Houses) (Scotland) Order 1972 were as follows:

    AreaNumber
    Angus250
    Central258
    Fife228
    Glasgow152
    Lanarkshire149
    North-Eastern869
    Northern1,262
    Perth and Kinross627
    South-Eastern880
    South-Western943
    Western802
    Total6,420

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many prosecutions have been brought in Scotland for the offence of failing to register under the Fire Precautions Act; what proportion the number so prosecuted represents of the total number of defaulters; and what steps he now proposes to take.

    I understand that no prosecutions have been made. No information is available about numbers of defaulters. Enforcement of the Fire Precautions Act 1971 is the statutory responsibility of fire authorities; and while no further action seems to be called for by me at this stage, I am keeping this matter under review.

    Explosives (Control)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take measures to tighten controls on the disposal of substances which can be used for the manufacture of explosive materials, or explosives, which are being brought into Northern Ireland from Scotland by members of the Irish Republican Army and their supporters.

    If my hon. Friend cares to send me details of the movements to which he refers, I will consider the matter.

    Home Department

    Safety On Water

    101.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has reached a decision on the proposal made to him by the National Water Safety Committee of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents to set up an independent commission on water safety.

    Football Pools (Nationalisation)

    102.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation to nationalise football pools.

    Immigration (French Overseas Citizens)

    103.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what will be the position of citizens of Martinique, Guadeloupe, French Guiana and Reunion, with regard to entry into the United Kingdom, working rights, and related matters from 1st January; and how many people this is estimated to involve.

    Citizens of these four overseas Departments of Metropolitan France, which have a combined population of a little over 1 million, are citizens of France in every respect and are entitled to freedom of movement within the European Economic Community.

    Commonwealth Immigrants (Detention)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the number, country of origin, and the place and period of detention of Commonwealth immigrants who are at present in custody in prisons and detention centres in England and Wales, notwithstanding that no criminal proceedings have been instituted or are contemplated against them.

    I am arranging for this information to be collected and shall write to the hon. Member.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from organisations concerned with helping Commonwealth immigrants with regard to custodial treatment affecting Commonwealth immigrants detained at prisons and detention centres in England and Wales, notwithstanding that no criminal proceedings have been instituted against them; and if he will make a statement.

    My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State has received representations from the National Council of Civil Liberties about the conditions for Commonwealth immigrants who are detained under the Commonwealth Immigrants Acts 1962 and 1968. Where, regrettably, prison accommodation has to be used for detention purposes, those concerned have to be treated, for the purpose of the prison rules, in the same way as unconvicted prisoners, and it is not possible to isolate them from the current pressures on the prison system as a whole.

    Ugandan Asians

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the latest count of Ugandan Asians admitted in the last three months to date; what is the latest estimate of those admitted to other countries with a right acknowledged by Her Majesty's Government to enter the United Kingdom subsequently; and what is the latest estimate of dependants, not included in the above, who would have the right to be admitted to join Ugandan Asians already in the United Kingdom.

    The number of Ugandan Asians admitted up to 28th November in consequence of the expulsion decree was 25,472. In addition, about 4,000 United Kingdom passport holders went to third countries from Uganda. As to the last part of the Question, I understand that my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs will be writing to my right hon. Friend.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how -many Ugandan Asians now admitted into Great Britain had, on their date of arrival or within two months of such date, in addition to their United Kingdom passports, papers, or passports of other countries; and whether he will give details of these countries.

    I assume that the Question relates to United Kingdom passport holders who came here from Uganda with the intention of going on to a third country, or have subsequently been accepted for settlement in a third country. I cannot say how many such people there are, but the countries to which some have so far gone are Canada, New Zealand and the Republic of Ireland.

    Police And Fire Services (Pensions And Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what capital sum payments are made to the estates of police officers who are killed on duty or who die off duty through accident or natural causes.

    Under the statutory pension schemes for the police and fire services, payments in these circumstances are made by way of pensions and allowances to widows and children. In general, the schemes do not provide for the payment of capital sums; but there are special provisions that, where policemen or firemen die as the result of injuries received on duty in particular circumstances, lump sums, equal to twice the maximum annual pay of a London policeman or fireman as the case may be, are payable to widows or children in addition to pensions and allowances.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the current commutation rates at ages 50 and 60 years next birthday for the police and the fire services.

    The current rates for each £100 of pension surrendered are:

    Policemen
    Age next birthdayand firemenPolicewomen
    ££
    501,2901,520
    601,0501,318

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the reasons for the requirements governing approval of commutation for the police and fire services.

    The main requirements relate to the proportion of pension that may be commuted, the timing of the election to commute, and a minimum period of service. The reasons for them are technical and actuarial, and, as regards the minimum period of service, the need to maintain adequate police and fire service strengths.

    Miss Mcguire

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what police protection he has asked for in respect of Miss McGuire, a citizen of the Republic of Eire and sometime member of the Provisional Irish Republican Army, while she is residing in the United Kingdom; and what is the cost to date of this protection.

    It is not the practice to disclose whether protection is being given in any particular case.

    Dangerous Drugs

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what arrangements are made for the destruction of cannabis, morphine, heroin, cocaine and other addictive drugs seized by the police in the United Kingdom; and whether he is satisfied that none of the seized drugs find their way back to the pushers.

    This is a matter in England and Wales for chief officers of police. Their attention has been drawn to the need for particular care, including supervision by senior officers, in arranging for the disposal of seized drugs.

    Police Officer (Use Of Private Car)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he has not replied to the correspondence he has received from the hon. Member for West Ham, North, regarding a police officer using his private car whilst on police duties; and when a reply may be expected.

    If the hon. Member is referring to his letter of 25th October, I have nothing to add to the reply which I gave to his Question on 9th November.—[Vol. 845, c. 219–20.]

    Taxi Trade (Gratuities)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the legislation under which a taxi driver may insist on a gratuity in addition to the statutory fare.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Drainage Works, South Worcestershire

    104.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give immediate assent to the proposition of Worcestershire County Council to execute drainage works in the catchment area of the Carrant Brook in and around Beckford, near Tewkesbury, in the parliamentary constituency of South Worcestershire, with a view to the prevention of further flooding over a length of three miles of the brook, from Beckford to Ashton-on-Carrant, with grant-aid, and subject to the execution of the works early in 1973.

    Worcestershire County Council's scheme for the improvement of the Carrant Brook was approved for grant aid on 28th November 1972. I understand that the work is programmed to start in March 1973.

    Breeding Cattle (Exports To France)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he can now announce the result of recent negotiations to facilitate entry of British breeding cattle into France; and if he will make a statement.

    Yes. I am glad to say that the French authorities have agreed that British cattle, of breeds which they have not yet recognised, can now be admitted into France when ordered by French buyers, and subject to the usual Customs and veterinary regulations. However, where cattle are exported to France and sold to a French owner under these arrangements, neither the bulls nor their progeny, pure or crossed, can be used either for natural or artificial mating with cows or heifers belonging to other owners; nor can they be sold within French territory as an officially recognised breeding stock. They and their progeny, be they pure or crossed, can however be sold to other farmers, subject to the same restrictions on use for breeding.The French authorities have also agreed to make it easier for British cattle to be shown at their "Salon International de 1'Agriculture" in Paris.Discussions are proceeding on the question of trial programmes which could lead towards formal French recognition of British beef breeds.The National Cattle Breeders' Association and the British Agricultural Export Council have welcomed the arrangements as a helpful advance, pending the development of any wider EEC provisions for intra-Community trade in livestock for breeding.

    Trade And Industry

    North Sea Oil

    105.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the present estimate of cost for the investment in finding, extracting and pumping oil necessary to produce 75 million tons by 1980.

    106.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what has been the total amount of money accruing to the Government from the sale of exploration licences in the North Sea to find oil.

    £46·7 million has been received for licences to search for and get petroleum, which includes oil and natural gas, in the United Kingdom sector of the North Sea.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what proportion of the gross revenues to be derived by the oil companies from the natural resources they will extract from the Scottish field in 1980 he estimates will accrue by way of licences, royalties, rentals and taxation to the Exchequer; and how this figure compares with the estimated proportion to be gained by the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries States and the Norwegian Government from the same oil companies operating in their areas.

    Licence terms vary from country to country in OPEC and from contract to contract in both Norway and the OPEC countries. Thus, no direct comparisons are possible. The 12½ per cent. royalty applied in the United Kingdom is typical of rates in force elsewhere. Obviously, no estimates can be made of receipts from taxation because these will vary depending on the taxation arrangements, the rates in force and the individual circumstances of the companies.

    Prices

    107.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many cases of price increases in contravention of Section 2 of the Counter-Inflation (Temporary Provisions) Act are known to his Department; and how many firms are involved.

    Only a small number of cases appear prima facie to infringe the standstill. Only one firm is involved in each of the cases currently under investigation.

    Gas Appliances (Imports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on the effect of the agreement reached by importers of gas appliances from European Free Trade Association countries of British entry to the European Economic Community in 1973.

    If the hon. Member will let me know the nature of the agreements which he has in mind, I shall consider the effect on them of entry into EEC and write to him.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how the interests of the Irish Dairy Board in Great Britain will be affected when the Republic of Ireland joins the European Economic Community.

    The interests of the Irish Dairy Board are a matter for the Government of the Republic of Ireland. The Board's operations in the United Kingdom will be subject to the provisions of the Treaty of Accession and, from 1st February, 1973, to the Community agricultural policy particularly in so far as this relates to arrangements in the milk products sector.

    Shipbuilding

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he is aware of the difficulties faced by companies such as Manchester Marine as a result of unfair competition from overseas in building ships; if he will review his policy of support for British shipbuilders; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government are actively engaged in international efforts to eliminate factors which distort the conditions under which United Kingdom shipbuilders compete internationally. An urgent appraisal of the future prospects of the United Kingdom shipbuilding industry is currently being undertaken by the Industrial Development Executive.

    Exports

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the six industries which have achieved the greatest volume of visible exports for each year from 1962 to 1971, and the latest available figure for 1972.

    Figures of exports by industry are not at present compiled annually. Industrial analyses of exports, from which the lists below are drawn, are however available from the "Input-output tables for the United Kingdom in 1963" and provisional input-output tables for 1968.1963

    • Motor Vehicles and tractors.
    • General chemicals, dyestuffs, fertilisers and miscellaneous chemical industries.
    • Iron and steel.
    • Wool.
    • Radio, telecommunications and electronic equipment.
    • Mineral oil refining.

    1968

    • Motor vehicles and tractors.
    • General chemicals, dyestuffs, fertilisers and miscellaneous chemical industries.
    • Iron and steel.
    • Drink.
    • Aerospace equipment.
    • Radio, telecommunications and electronic equipment.

    In listing the six groups in each year, two industrial groups of a miscellaneous nature—"other non-electrical machinery" and "other metal goods"—have been ignored.

    National Coal Board (Finances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the total amount of public funds, including grants, loans and written-off debts, received by the National Coal Board from 1962 to 1971, inclusive, and for 1972 to date.

    The information is as follows:1. Amounts received from 1st January 1962–25th March 1972 inclusive:

    £ million
    Grants163
    Loans (net of repayments)124
    Debt-write-off (1965 Act)415
    2. Amounts received from 26th March 1972–30th November 1972 inclusive:

    £ million
    Grants5
    Loans (net of repayments)115

    Gas Supply Emergency (Portsmouth)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will establish an inquiry into the incident which led to the emergency in the gas supply affecting more than 30,000 homes in Portsmouth on 1st December; and whether he will make a statement.

    I am awaiting a full report on the incident, but preliminary indications are that it arose from a minor mechanical failure and involved no danger to consumers.

    Hovercraft

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will consider including hovercraft in the list of approved categories for qualification for the shipbuilding subsidy, so as to act as an incentive to hovercraft development and to encourage the diversification of shipyard skills and activities.

    The construction grant scheme was introduced to meet a particular situation in the shipbuilding industry. Hovercraft development is being encouraged by special assistance of £2 million, as announced to the House on 20th March, 1972.

    Aerospace Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the cash total of exports achieved by the British aerospace industry from 1962 to 1971, inclusive, and for 1972 to date.

    Figures of recorded exports for the years 1962 to 1970 are given in the supplement dated November 1971 to the "Survey of the United Kingdom Aerospace Industry", copies of which are available in the Library. The figures for 1971 and January to October 1972 are £315 million and £326 million, respectively.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what is the total amount of public funds, including grants, loans and written-off debts, received by the British civil aerospace industry from 1962 to 1971, inclusive, and for 1972 to date.

    The total amounts received were £730 million in the financial years 1962–63 to 1971–72 and £66 million in the year 1972–73 to date. The figures are gross; they take no account of receipts which have accrued to Her Majesty's Government under the terms of launching aid and other agreements. They do not include grants available to industry generally.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will state, from information available from international sources, the total numbers employed in, and the exports achieved by, the aerospace industries of the United States of America, France, Germany and Japan, at the latest date for which figures are available.

    Following is the information:

    Total employees in aerospace industry, 1970 (thousands)Value of recorded exports of aircraft, engines and parts, 1970 (millions of U.S. dollars)
    United States of America7833,084
    France106367
    Germany55174
    Japan2635
    Sources:Source:
    Various.OECD
    Export sales include the value of work done by sub-contractors outside the aerospace industries concerned, to an extent which varies from one industry to another. Re-exports, included above, also vary.

    Aircraft (Smoke Emission)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will state in statistical form the measurable smoke emission from the following aircraft, namely, Boeing 707, Boeing 727, Douglas DC8, VC10 and production Concorde.

    Smoke emissions from the engines of these aircraft, measured in Hartridge smoke units, are as follows:

    approximately
    Boeing 7076
    Douglas DC8
    Boeine 72713
    Boeing 727 (with modified engine)3
    VC109
    Concorde (production engine)2

    Aircraft (Noise Levels)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will state the latest measurement of noise, at the statutory measuring points, on take-off, flyover, and landing, approach, of the following aircraft, namely, Boeing 707–320C, Douglas DC8–50 and production Concorde.

    No measurements have been made of the noise levels of these aircraft under the requirements of the United Kingdom noise certification scheme. The latest estimated values under these conditions for the American aircraft are shown in the table below, together with the manufacturers' estimates of production Concorde noise levels:

    Take-Off Approach (Flyover)
    EPNdB
    DC8–50(JT3D)115116
    DC8–50 (JT3D-3)115116
    DC8–50 (JT3D-3B)114118
    Boeing 707–320C114120
    Concorde114115

    Industry Act

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many inquiries there have been in Durham County for assistance under the Industry Act 1972; and in how many cases assistance has been offered.

    Thirty firm inquiries from Durham County for assistance under Part II of the Industry Act 1972 were received up to 30th November. At that date, two offers had been made.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many inquiries there have been in the Northern Region for assistance under the Industry Act 1972; and in how many cases assistance has been offered.

    Eighty-four firm inquiries from the Northern Region for assistance under Part II of the Industry Act 1972, were received up to 30th November. At that date, two offers had been made.

    Steel Prices (Hirshfield Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, if he can now make a statement of the action he proposes to take following his talks with the parties concerned about Lord Hirshfield's findings on the British Steel Corporation's pricing policies.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he will give a general direction to the British Steel Corporation, prior to 1st January, 1973, to increase its prices on end products of steel manufacture, pursuant to the recommendations of the Hirshfield Report.

    I have today placed in the Library a copy of the conclusions and associated extracts of Lord Hirshfield's Report, submitted under Section 30 of the Iron and Steel Act 1967, and issued it to the Press. As I informed the hon. Member for Chesterfield (Mr. Varley) in reply to a Question on 26th October, I have accepted these conclusions, which are that the British Steel Corporation's pricing practices have been unfair to the complainants in relation to three of the four product groups which were the subject of complaint. In these cases—reinforcing bars, soft wire rods, and hot re-rolled bars and sections—Lord Hirshfield recommended an increase in the level of BSC prices so as to increase the margin between billet and billet-derived products.In discussions I have had with the parties, the Corporation has told me that it fully subscribes to the principle that an undertaking should not abuse its dominant position in the market which underlies Section 30 of the Act and Article 66(7) of the Treaty of Paris to which it will shortly become subject. In the circumstances of the present prices standstill, it would be inappropriate for me to direct the Corporation to give effect to Lord Hirshfield's recommendations. But the Corporation has agreed that it will, within the framework of the ECSC system and as soon as price adjustments can properly be made in the light of the Government's counter - inflationary measures, take account of such recommendations in reviewing the level of its prices.Lord Hirshfield has made a number of recommendations outside the main stream of his Report on the questions of rationalisation and the appropriateness of BSC's involvement in certain products. These are matters to which I am giving separate consideration.

    Marine Pollution (Oil)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will make a statement on his policy towards the recommendations in the report commissioned by the British Chamber of Shipping concerning the discharge of oil at sea, a copy of which is in his possession.

    I understand that the hon. Member's Question relates to a report which has not yet been made available outside the Chamber of Shipping of the United Kingdom. If a copy is received in this Department, we shall consider whether any statement is necessary.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what reply he has made to the Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organisation concerning its proposals for a ban on the discharge of oil at sea.

    The International Conference on Marine Pollution, to be convened in October, 1973, by the Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organisation, will have before it a number of proposals for eliminating deliberate pollution of the sea by oil, including some proposals for banning all discharges. The attitude of the United Kingdom delegation towards the various proposals will be fully considered before the conference.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what machinery exists for monitoring the coastline for oil pollution and for oil slicks at sea and how the information is recorded.

    Standing arrangements exist for ships and aircraft to report oil slicks at sea and any incidents likely to cause oil pollution. These reports, together with any from sources ashore, are co-ordinated by Her Majesty's Coastguard, which also carries out regular patrols of beaches. The information is recorded at the point of receipt and in my Department's Marine Division, and the Department of the Environment and the Welsh and Scottish Offices are kept informed.

    United Nations Conference On Trade And Development

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when the White Paper on the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development will be published.

    The Command Paper on the Third United Nations Conference on Trade and Development was published today, and I have placed a copy in the Library.

    Chrysler Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry why he has released the Chrysler Corporation from one of the undertakings given to the Government on 16th January, 1967.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement I made to the House earlier today.

    Employment

    Yorkshire And Humberside

    109.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest male and female unemployment figures for Yorkshire and Humberside, the male unemployment figures for each of the coal mining towns and districts of Yorkshire, and the number of former coal miners unemployed.

    At 13th November, 62,544 males and 11,491 females were unemployed in the Yorkshire and Humberside region. The following table shows for certain employment exchange areas, either singly or grouped into travel-to-work areas, the total numbers of males unemployed and the numbers of these who last worked in the coal-mining industry:

    Total males unemployedUnemployed males who last worked in coalmining
    Barnsley*3,170712
    Castleford*2,120386
    Dewsbury*1,547111
    Doncaster*4,157668
    Hemsworth*1,018261
    Mexborough*1,881500
    Chapeltown33021
    Dinnington42374
    Maltby44284
    Rotherham2,537122
    Rothwell26195
    Wakefield991129
    Woodhouse41518
    * Travel-to-work area.

    Uxbridge, Lincoln And Sutton And Cheam

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many workers are employed in the major trades and industries in the employment exchange areas corresponding to the parliamentary constituencies of Uxbridge, Lincoln and Sutton and Cheam, respectively; and how many such workers are unemployed.

    Employment estimates are not available for the Uxbridge, Sutton and Cheam areas but only for greater London as a whole.The following table shows estimates of the numbers of employees in employment in the area covered by the Lincoln employment exchange at June, 1971, the latest date for which information is available:

    UxbridgeLincolnSutton
    Agriculture, Forestry and Fishing5962
    Mining and Quarrying214
    Food, Drink and Tobacco1014911
    Coal and Petroleum Products214
    Chemicals and Allied Industries72221
    Metal Manufacture366
    Mechanical Engineering2742231
    Instrument Engineering127
    Electrical Engineering173036
    Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering12
    Vehicles161283
    Metal Goods not elsewhere specified144631
    Textiles1172
    Leather, Leather Goods, and Fur11
    Clothing and Footwear74
    Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement, etc246
    Timber, Furniture, etc10157
    Paper, Printing and Publishing141647
    Other Manufacturing Industries44038
    Construction2536394
    Gas, Electricity and Water133414
    Transport and Communication3510259
    Distributive Trades3422296
    Insurance, Banking, Finance and Business Services224696
    Professional and Scientific Services229557
    Miscellaneous Services3923999
    Public Administration and Defence2512168
    Not classified by Industry3648982
    Total, all Industries and Services3842,757924

    Unemployed Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he will publish figures of the number of people in Great Britain who have been un-

    (000's)

    Agriculture, forestry, fishing and mining and quarrying2·5
    Food, drink and tobacco2·6
    Mechanical engineering8·1
    Vehicles2·3
    Metal goods not elsewhere specified1·4
    All other manufacturing industries5·3
    Construction, gas, electricity and water4·6
    Transport and communication2·5
    Distributive trades5·8
    Insurance, banking, finance and business services1·6
    Professional and scientific services8·0
    Miscellaneous services4·1
    Public administration2·7
    Not classified by industry0·4
    Total52·8

    The following table shows the provisional numbers unemployed at 13th November in the areas covered by the Uxbridge, Lincoln and Sutton employment exchanges analysed according to the industry groups in which the unemployed people last worked:

    employed for one year and over, nine to 12 months, six to nine months, three to six months, one to three months and under a month, respectively; and if he will give the figures for each of the economic planning regions;

    (2) if he will publish the figures of the number of people in Wales who have been unemployed for over one year, nine to 12 months, six to nine months, three to six months, one to three months, and under a month, respectively.

    Up to 4 weeks

    Over 4 and up to 13 weeks

    Over 13 and up to 26 weeks

    Over 26 and up to 39 weeks

    Over 39 and up to 52 weeks

    Over 52 weeks

    South East49,75039,87621,87311,5647,89822,870
    East Anglia4,5723,4891,9841,0529323,826
    South West12,5199,4106,0593,1872,6509,586
    West Midlands16,39319,05712,2677,0565,41215,825
    East Midlands8,8639,2095,1633,0272,59411,001
    Yorkshire and Humberside18,07218,43910,9496,3244,53220,183
    North West28,64333,25121,39012,5748,95829,279
    North14 98020,33411,5406,2855,02221,560
    Wales11,31011,5446,7913,5492,75611,140
    Scotland24,23731,61522,11212,3978,76932,346
    Great Britain189,339196,224120,12867,01549,523177,616

    Official Telephone Numbers (Publication)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will publish in the Press and on television and radio all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    The following table shows the number of people registered as unemployed at 9th October, 1972 analysed according to the length of time for which they had been registered.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will publish in the Press and on television and radio all her official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to her Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Minister of State for Defence whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will pub- lish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the Public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Attorney-General whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    asked the Lord Advocate whether he will publish, in the Press and on television and radio, all his official telephone numbers, so that members of the public with grievances relating to his Department may be in a position to telephone in with their complaints up to and including midnight.

    I have been asked to reply.No, Sir. The official telephone numbers of all these Government Departments are published in the London Telephone Directory, the Imperial Calendar and in other reference books.When there is a need for staff to be available outside normal office hours for the handling of official Government business, appropriate arrangements already exist.

    Tonbridge Magistrates (Chairman)

    asked the Attorney-General when the chairman of the Bench of Magistrates at Tonbridge, Kent, was first appointed as a justice of the peace; and how long he has been chairman at Tonbridge.

    The chairman of the Tonbridge Bench, Mr. F. W. E. Dawes, was appointed a justice of the peace for the County of Kent in 1949, and he was elected chairman of the bench from 1st January, 1970.

    House Of Commons

    Food Waste Disposal

    asked the Lord President of the Council what is the weight and salvage value of surplus or stale food from the House of Commons dining rooms sold to swill contractors for processing in each of the last 12 months to 31st October, 1972, or the most convenient accounting date.

    Kitchen Waste (Wet and Dry)

    • January to December 1970—338 cwt.—£57.
    • January to December 1971—448 cwt.—£76.
    • January to October 1972—349 cwt.—£59.

    This comprises the kitchen waste from the dining rooms, cafeterias and tea rooms.

    Parliamentary Questions

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he is now able to inform the House of the Government's conclusions on the Report of the Select Committee on Parliamentary Questions.

    Yes. The Government's views on the recommendations made by the Select Committee under the five main headings in its Report are as follows:

    Restrictions imposed by the rules for Questions

    The Government generally accept the recommendations in this section of the Report, and will commend to the House the proposal that Mr. Speaker should be empowered to authorise such changes of Table Office practice submitted to him as he considers to be consistent with the present main rules governing the acceptability of Questions as set out in paragraphs 4–6 of the Report.

    Proposals to reduce difficulty in obtaining Oral Answers

    The Government share the Select Committee's view that some restriction on the number of Oral Questions tabled by individual Members should provide a better opportunity for more Members to obtain an Oral Answer to their Questions. It is accordingly proposed to recommend to the House a sessional experiment on the lines proposed by the Select Committee, together with the introduction of a procedure for "priority" Written Questions whereby a Member would be able to specify the particular day on which he wants an Answer to a Written Question.—[paragraph 28.]
    The Government do not, however, propose to recommend to the House an experimental Question Time on Friday mornings from. 10 a.m. to 11 a.m.

    Questions to the Prime Minister

    While the Government endorse the two proposals made in paragraphs 24 and 25 in the Report regarding Questions to the Prime Minister, they do not accept the Select Committee's recommendation that Prime Minister's Question Time on Tuesdays should be extended until 3.45 p.m. It is noted that the Report recognises—paragraph 20—that more/ time is already devoted to Questions to the Prime Minister than to any other Minister.

    Miscellaneous

    As indicated above, the Government accept the proposal for "priority" Written Questions in paragraph 28. They also accept the Select Committee's proposal—paragraph 29—that Mr. Speaker should no longer feel bound to follow individual previous rulings in deciding whether to allow a Question to be asked after Private Notice.
    With regard to the Select Committee's recommendations concerning the Question Rota—paragraph 30—the Government do not consider that Questions to the large Departments of State should be subdivided. The Government have noted the Select Committee's recommendations with regard to the arrangements for Questions to the Lord President of the Council, the Attorney-General and the Minister for the Civil Service, and propose to. keep the position under review through the usual channels in the light of experience of the changes recently made in the Rota.

    The Preparation of Questions by Civil Servants

    The Government have noted the Select Committee's views that it is not the râle of the Government machine to seek to redress the Party balance of Questions on the Order Paper. There has hitherto been no rule relating to this matter. The Government have decided, in accordance with the Select Committee's conclusions, to introduce a rule that civil servants should not in future be asked to prepare Questions which have that object.
    The necessary resolutions will be brought before the House as soon as possible.

    Delegated Legislation

    asked the Lord President of the Council if he is now able to indicate the Government's views on the Report made by the Joint Committee on Delegated Legislation.

    The Government have decided to recommend to Parliament the acceptance of the two principal proposals made by the Joint Committee on Delegated Legislation. These are for the establishment of a Joint Scrutiny Committee of both Houses of Parliament to check the technical propriety of statutory instruments, and of a Standing Committee of the House of Commons to consider the "merits" of statutory instruments referred to them by the House.It is hoped that the establishment of these two new Parliamentary Committees will avoid the present duplication of functions between the Select Committee on Statutory Instruments in the House of Commons and the Special Orders Committee of the House of Lords, and provide better opportunities for debating statutory instruments in the House of Commons.The Government's detailed proposals with regard to the scope of these Committees, and the procedure for referring statutory instruments to them, will be embodied in resolutions which will be brought before both Houses of Parliament, as appropriate, as soon as possible.

    Defence

    Northern Ireland

    asked the Minister of State for Defence if he is aware that there are a number of shops in Belfast in which it is possible to enter through one public door and leave through another public door, thereby avoiding search at a defence check point; how many shops are in this position; and what proposals he has to deal with this situation.

    Every care is taken in siting check points to minimise the possibility of people evading them. However, I am aware that there are some eight shops in Belfast which have doors outside the protected area as well as inside it.For safety reasons the doors outside the protected area cannot be locked but a review has recently been conducted in conjunction with the shop managers. They have been advised and assisted in the provision of security guards to protect their premises and it should not now be possible for anyone to avoid Army check points via shops without passing a security guard.

    asked the Minister of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the shooting of two workmen on Tuesday, 5th December, in the Ardoyne by the Army in mistake for Irish Republican Army terrorists.

    At about 11 a.m. on 5th December six shots were fired at Army posts in the Ardoyne area of Belfast. In one of those incidents a shot narrowly missed soldiers working outside the observation post at the junction of Berwick Road and Alliance Avenue. The shot was believed to have been fired from Berwick Road, which has been the source of a number of recent shooting and rocket attacks on the observation post.Soldiers observed two men in an unoccupied house which had recently been used by gunmen, and was adjacent to one which had been used a few days earlier by terrorists firing a rocket at the same Army observation post through a hole in the roof. One of the men observed was on the roof and the other at an upstairs window. They were carrying what appeared to be weapons and one shot was fired at each of them, killing one and wounding the other. The wounded man was immediately given first-aid treatment and they were both taken to hospital in Army transport.Further inquiries suggested that the men were in fact workmen working on the house, and a statement was promptly issued expressing the Army's deepest regret at the incident. I wish to express my sympathy to the relatives of the dead man and to the man who was wounded. The normal investigation by the civil authorities is already under way.I understand that the two men had been sent to the house by the Northern Ireland Housing Authority but that the authority had not informed the Army of their presence. Steps are being taken to ensure that such information is transmitted in future.

    Royal Ordnance Factories (Piece- Work)

    asked the Minister of State for Defence why authority has been refused to the local management of Royal Small Arms ordnance factories to negotiate local piece-work schemes for men working in the Services Department in place of the agreement which expired on 28th June 1972.

    Piece-work rates paid in other sections of the Royal Small Arms factory, Enfield, are not appropriate to maintenance tasks, being designed essentially for production processes. Maintenance employees in the Services Department were covered by a separate incentive scheme, due for review on or after 28th June 1972. The operation of this scheme was terminated at the request of the employees, not by local management, and it is open to these employees to return at any time to the operation of the Services Department scheme. This scheme is in operation in all other Royal Ordnance Factories where it is applicable and the bonus payment element, common to all factories, is being reviewed centrally.

    Education And Science

    Binley Woods, Coventry (New School)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when. as a result of her consent, she expects a start to be made on the new middle school at Binley Woods, near Coventry.

    The Department has given approval for a start to be made on part of this project in the current financial year. It now rests with the local education authority to obtain an acceptable tender.

    Boarding Places

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many boarding places are provided in local authority schools; how many of these are for weekly boarders; and whether it is her policy to encourage an increase in such places for areas in which secondary school children have to travel substantial distances.

    In January 1972 there were 10,674 boarding pupils in maintained schools in England. Information about numbers of weekly boarders is not available in my Department. It is for local education authorities to consider whether they need to increase the number of boarding places available to children in their areas. I would consider proposals on their merits in relation to other calls on resources available for school building.

    Elmhurst Primary School, Forest Gate

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why she has put a two-year delay on a replacement school for the Elmhurst Primary School, Forest Gate, London, E.7, because of her failure to expedite the hearing of appeals against compulsory purchase orders; and whether she will expedite these.

    A public inquiry into the compulsory purchase order made on 3rd November 1971 for a replacement site for Elmhurst School is to be held on 25th January 1973 jointly with an inquiry by the Department of the Environment into planning permission Every effort will then be made to come to an early decision.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Northern Ireland

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list the publications available from the British Information Service concerning the Northern Ireland situation; and in what language these publications are written.

    The provision of publications is only a small part of the overseas information effort, which, on Northern Ireland as on other topics, uses all media including television, cinema, radio and the Press as well as personal contacts and briefings by information and other diplomatic officers.Statements by Ministers and day-to-day news commentaries constitute a major part of the written output, often for local translation before issue.The main publications of recent and current issue are:

    "Northern Ireland" (A reference pamphlet in English, French, German and Spanish).
    "Survey of Current Affairs" (A monthly periodical in English. Most recent issues have contained an article on Northern Ireland).

    All official legislation and proposals, Commission reports, etc., are issued as Command Papers and Stationery Office publications.

    Publications by the Northern Ireland Office:

    "Ulster Yearbook 1972"; "Facts at your Fingertips" (booklet); "Ulster Commentary" (a monthly periodical); "Bloody Friday"; and "Death of a Village" (broadsheets).

    European Economic Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the entertainment allowance paid in the European Economic Community to members of the Commission and members of the Court of Justice is paid on the basis of expenses actually incurred, or if such allowance is paid without regard to the expenses actually incurred.

    The representational allowance paid to members of the European Commission and of the European Court of Justice is not an accountable one.

    National Finance

    Value Added Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received from the hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, concerning the estimated cost of value added tax to Manchester United Football Club, Manchester City Football Club and Lancashire County Cricket Club; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received from the hon. Member for Eccles concerning the estimated cost of value added tax to Swinton Rugby League Club; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the effect value added tax will have on hire-purchase payments on agreements made before the introduction of the tax.

    If goods sold under hire-purchase agreements have been supplied to the customer before 1st April, 1973, VAT will not be chargeable. The time of supply is governed by the date of removal of the goods, or, subject to conditions set out in Section 7 of the Finance Act, 1972, the date of issue of the tax invoice or payment for the goods.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the effect value added tax will have on outlay concerning agricultural drainage, farm buildings, fertilisers, feeding stuffs, purchse of seed, farm machinery, and fuel for farm heating, including incubators, and so forth.

    Farmers' outlays on new works of agricultural drainage and farm buildings and on feeding stuffs, edible seeds and fuel will not increase by reason of the value added tax because transactions in these items will be zero-rated. Tax at the standard rate will be charged on the maintenance of agricultural drainage works and farm buildings, and on fertilisers, farm machinery and flower seeds; but the VAT credit mechanism will enable a registered farmer to recover the tax paid on these taxable inputs to his business.The abolition of selective employment tax and purchase tax should be reflected in the cost of certain inputs to farmers.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied with the number of farmers who have completed the value added tax procedures; and how this compares with other industries.

    Most farmers can be expected to benefit from being registered for VAT, since they will be entitled to repayment of input tax borne by them. As at 29th November, the number of farmers who had applied for registration for VAT represented about 7 per cent. of the estimated total of farmers. The corresponding percentage in respect of the estimated total registrable population was 18 per cent.

    Northern Ireland Companies

    asked the Prime Minister whether the tax income from companies operating in Northern Ireland whose registered headquarters are in Great Britain was taken into account in arriving at the figure of £200 million as the size of the subsidy paid to Northern Ireland.

    I have been asked to reply.In addition to the appropriate share of reserved tax revenue, which in the case of corporation tax includes an attribution for companies operating in Northern Ireland and having headquarters in Great Britain, it is estimated that the Northern Ireland Exchequer will receive about £200 million in special payments, subsidies and grant-in-aid in 1972–73.

    Northern Ireland

    Royal Ulster Constabulary Reserve

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many pages the application form for admission to the Royal Ulster Constabulary Reserve contains; and what questions are asked.

    The application form has seven pages, including the cover page. As the form is lengthy I am sending a copy of it to my hon. Friend.

    Abortion

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the ratio of known abortions to live births registered for the years 1969, 1970 and 1971.

    I regret that the information asked for by my hon. Friend is not available.

    House Purchase (Loans)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much money is to be made available under the scheme by which the Housing Executive will grant loans for house purchase.

    No overall limit has been fixed but the matter will be reviewed from time to time.

    Malicious Damage Claims

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make proposals to speed up the issue of chief constable certificates in malicious damage claim cases; and if he will consider introducing a scheme whereby retired policemen would assist in the carrying out of his work.

    Every effort is being made to speed up the issue of chief constable certificates in connection with malicious damage claims.Much of the investigation has to be carried out in the course of daily police work, often in dangerous areas where armed protection is necessary. The introduction of retired policemen is therefore not a practical proposition.

    Egg Producers

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what proportion of Northern Ireland egg producers, expressed in terms of output, he estimates are wholly-owned subsidiaries of large English companies and conglomerates.

    Less than 2 per cent., according to the best available estimate.

    Hijacking Of Vehicles

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on his recent meeting with the Wholesale Wine and Spirits Association, and, in the light of this meeting, what steps he is taking to reduce hijacking of vehicles and to provide fair compensation in the event of loss of stock.

    My right hon. Friend has not recently met the Wholesale Wine and Spirits Association. Every effort is being made by the police and the security forces to reduce the hijacking of vehicles. On the question of compensation, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to his earlier Question on 16th November.—[Vol. 846, c. 596.]

    Posts And Telecommunications

    Television Licence Fees

    asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications (1) how many persons, living in the so-called Republican areas of Belfast and Londonderry, have been prosecuted for non-payment of television licences in each month since 24th March, 1972;(2) what visits have been made since 24th March, 1972, by the television detector vans to the so-called Republican areas of Londonderry, the Bogside and the Creggan, and to similar areas of Belfast, the Falls, Ardoyne, Andersonstown, Ballymurphy and Turf Lodge; and what areas have not been visited by the television detector vans.

    There have been no detector cars operating in Northern Ireland this year. Separate figures for prosecutions in different areas of Belfast and Londonderry are not recorded.

    Social Services

    Mental Patients (Pocket Money)

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    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients in hospitals for, respectively, the mentally ill and the mentally handicapped receive pocket money, apart from money given for work done in the hospital, because they have no income from other sources; and what percentage these figures represent of total patients in both types of institution.

    This information is not regularly collected centrally. Special returns of pocket money paid by hospital authorities under Section 133 of the Mental Health Act 1959 to patients aged 16 and over were last obtained for the week including 24th May, 1971. These indicated that in England 18,275 such patients in hospitals for the mentally ill and 35,446 in hospitals for the mentally handicapped received such pocket money in that week. These figures were 18·8 per cent. and 74·8 per cent. respectively of the total patients aged 16 and over in the hospitals concerned.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress he has made in transferring responsibility to the Supplementary Benefits Commission for payment of pocket money to patients in mental hospitals.

    I cannot at present forecast when the necessary additional resources might become available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients in hospitals for the mentally ill and mentally handicapped receive pocket money of £1·35 per week, and how many receive less than £1·35 per week.

    For the week including 24th May 1971, 6,339 patients in hospitals for the mentally ill received pocket money at the maximum rate—at that time £1—and 11,936 less than this amount. Corresponding figures for hospitals for the mentally handicapped were 4,425 and 31,021.

    Cell Therapy

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the value of cell therapy in the treatment of various kinds of ailments.

    The value of a particular form of treatment is for doctors to decide, in the light of scientific evidence, but I know of none in this case.

    Boards (Voluntary Members)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the present numbers of voluntary members on National Health Service hospital boards and other boards; and by how much their numbers are likely to be reduced on the proposed reorganisation.

    There are about 1,250 members of regional hospital boards and boards of governors of teaching hospitals and the regional boards appoint about 4,500 members to hospital management committees—that is, about 5,750 members of hospital authorities.

    Regional and area health authorities will have about 1,600 members and community health councils to be set up by the area authorities for each health district are expected to have between 4,700 and 5,600 members making in total between 6,300 and 7,200 members in all.

    About 3,500 members serve on excutive councils and a similar number will be required for the new family practitioner committees.