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Written Answers

Volume 851: debated on Tuesday 27 February 1973

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 27th February 1973

Employment

Training

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals he now has for establishing a Government training centre in Wolverhampton.

A new Government training centre is planned to open in the Walsall-Wolverhampton-Darlaston-Willenhall area by 1975.

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many Government training centres serve the East Midlands Region; and how many more are scheduled for construction.

There are two Government training centres in the East Midlands Economic Planning Region and one more is planned by 1975.

Building Industry

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many building trade craftsmen are unemployed in the South East Region.

A total of 2,998 who last worked as carpenters, electricians, plumbers, painters and bricklayers. Following is an occupational analysis of unemployed men who last worked in the construction industry in the South East:

OCCUPATIONAL ANALYSIS OF UNEMPLOYED MEN WHO LAST WORKED IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN THE SOUTH EAST REGION
Carpenters and joiners (construction sites and maintenance)373
Electricians (installation and maintenance) premises and ships222
Cable jointers and linesmen16
Plumbers, pipe fitters374
Gas fitters40
Heating and ventilating engineering fitters93
Steel erectors332
Scaffolders/stagers125
Steel benders, bar benders and fixers86
Painters and decorators1,838
Bricklayers191
Fixer/walling masons6
Plasterers103
Floor and wall tilers, terrazzo workers35
Roofers and slaters98
Glaziers34
Other roadmen32
Asphalt and bitumen road surfacers51
Concrete erectors/assemblers17
General builders124
Mains and surface layers and pipe jointers (gas, water, drainage, oil)53
Concrete levellers/screeders28
Mechanical plant drivers/operators (earth moving and civil engineering)139
Crane drivers/operators90
Fork lift and other mechanical truck drivers/operators57
All other occupations14,189
Total18,746

Birmingham

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons are now registered as unemployed in the Birmingham area.

The provisional figure for the Birmingham travel-to-work area on 12th February was 21,905.

Departmental Headquarters (Relocation)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he has taken to relocate the headquarters work of his Departments in Yorkshire and Humberside.

None. The Government will be considering whether more of the Department's work can be located away from London, as part of the current review of the location of Civil Service headquarters work in London. In deciding locations for dispersal, we shall take into account factors such as communications with and distance from London and the location of other bodies which have close links with the dispersed units.

National Industrial Relations Court

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many disputes have been settled as a result of a reference to the National Industrial Relations Court.

Twenty-three disputes have been settled following references to the National Industrial Relations Court. In three of these cases the court had first referred the matter to the Commission on Industrial Relations and in four other cases it had made orders against one party. The other 16 disputes were resolved without the need for legal remedies, either by conciliation under the court's auspices or by out-of-court settlements following court meetings or hearings.

Health Hazards

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans the new Employment Medical Advisory Service has for carrying out wide surveys into particular health hazards in industry.

The Employment Medical Advisory Service will extend studies previously being carried out by my Department's medical services division. The health of workers in the cotton, pottery, rubber and cable making industries is being studied. Surveys are being carried out on the health of workers exposed to lead, asbestos and to enzymes in detergents.

Picketing

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what representations have been made to him on the subject of picketing; and what replies he has sent.

I have received representations from a large number of organisations and individuals. They were told that their views would be fully taken into account in the Government's review of the law on picketing.

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what progress he has made with his review of the law on picketing, with a view to clarifying what is allowed and what is not.

The review is still continuing. I cannot yet say when a statement will be made.

Placings

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many placings were effected by the employment service of his Department during each of the last three years.

The number of adult placings made by the employment service of my Department during the last three years was as follows:

Year endedNumber
6th December 1972……1,352,058
1st December 1971……1,263,625
2nd December 1970……1,442,081

Earnings And Prices

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how much average weekly earnings and the index of retail prices, respectively, have risen during the past 12 months.

By 15é4 and 7é7 per cent. respectively in the 12-months' period ended December 1972.

Unfair Dismissal (Complaints)

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many complaints of unfair dismissal have been heard by the industrial tribunals at the latest date; in how many a complainant was reinstated in his job; and in how many he received compensation.

In the period from 28th February to 25th August 1972 the tribunals heard and determined 733 complaints of alleged unfair dismissal. Re-engagement was recommended in 11 cases and compensation was awarded in 174.

Youth Employment Service

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will publish a White Paper or explanatory document on the proposed new structure of the youth employment service.

The White Paper which will be issued to accompany the Employment and Training Bill will cover the new structure of the youth employment service.

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to publish his proposals for the future organisation of youth employment services.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the local education authorities which do not provide youth employment services.

Local education authorities do not provide the youth employment service in the following areas:

  • Barrow in Furness CB.
  • Bath CB.
  • Blackpool CB.
  • Burnley CB.
  • Cornwall CC.
  • Cumberland CC.
  • Devonshire CC.
  • Gloucestershire CC.
  • Hartlepool CB.
  • Ipswich CB.
  • Isles of Scilly CC.
  • Isle of Wight CC.
  • Lincolnshire (Holland) CC.
  • Lincolnshire (Kesteven) CC.
  • Northumberland CC.
  • Oxford CB.
  • Oxfordshire CC.
  • Pembrokeshire CC.
  • Rutland CC.
  • Shropshire CC.
  • Somersetshire CC.
  • Southport CB.
  • South Shields CB.
  • Suffolk East CC.
  • Suffolk West CC.
  • Torbay CB.
  • Tynemouth CB.
  • Walsall CB.
  • Westmorland CC.
  • Wiltshire CC.
  • Yorkshire (East Riding) CC.

Professional And Executive Service

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects the national computerised matching system of the professional and executive recruitment service to come into operation.

The new computer-assisted service became fully operational in the middle of this month.

Scotland

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the total and percentage increase in Scottish unemployment between February of this year and June 1970.

After seasonal adjustment, the numbers unemployed in Scotland this month were greater by 24,100 than in June 1970. On the same basis, the unemployment rates were respectively 5·2 per cent. and 4·1 per cent. The figures are provisional.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the most recent available figures relating to unemployment in the North-East of Scotland; and if he will specify the categories and numbers of workers unemployed.

On 12th February there were 5,629 people unemployed in the North East Planning Region of Scotland. Of these, 4,298 were men, 89 were boys, 1,113 were women and 129 were girls. The figures are provisional.

Rockware Glass, Greenford

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he is making to deal with the possible redundancies of some 900 employees as a result of the proposed closure of Rock-ware Glass, Greenford, Middlesex.

As soon as firm information is received as to the phasing of any redundancies which may arise from the proposed closure of this factory, the full resources of my Department will be made available, as appropriate, to those who need help in securing alternative employment.

Fine Tubes, Plymouth

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the most recent date when his Department was involved in any attempt to conciliate in the industrial dispute at Fine Tubes, Plymouth.

My right hon. Friend has had to conclude that in all the circumstances a joint meeting would not be helpful at the present time. There have, however, been separate meetings with the parties, the most recent on 31st January.

Mechanical Engineering (Production Methods)

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what research he is sponsoring into the relative economies and diseconomies of assembly line production over batch production in the mechanical engineering industry.

No research is sponsored directly by my Department into the relative merits of different ways of organising work—of which assembly line and batch production methods are two—in the mechanical engineering industry.

Vacancies

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the total number of vacancies currently notified to his Department.

On 7th February there were 274,376 vacancies remaining unfilled notified to employment offices and young persons employment service careers offices. The figure is provisional.

Trade Union Rights

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many complaints of infringement of rights of trade union membership and trade union activity have been made; and how many have been settled or withdrawn after conciliation.

In the period from 28th February 1972 to 26th January 1973, the industrial tribunals referred 366 complaints of alleged infringement of rights under Section 5 of the Industrial Relations Act to conciliation officers of my Department. Of these, 88 were settled or withdrawn after conciliation.

Factory Inspectors

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how many he expects to increase the number of factory inspectors during 1973.

I expect the number of factory inspectors to increase by about 60 during this year.

Gas Industry

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will make a statement on the industrial situation in the gas industry.

I met the unions concerned on Friday to ensure that they understood our proposals for the Pay Board's inquiry into problems of relativities and anomalies. I explained that the board would be asked to look at particular problems of this kind in relation to each other and as part of a general picture, so that we can consider how progress can be made in dealing with them in stage 3.

Longer-Term Prospects

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people in his Department are engaged in research into longer-term employment prospects in the United Kingdom; and whether he has proposals for increasing this number.

There are 15 staff in the unit for manpower studies, but many other staff of my Department, notably in the research and planning and statistics divisions, are directly or indirectly concerned with studies of this kind, though not necessarily on a full-time basis.

Community Industry

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many youths are now being employed under the Community Industry Scheme in the Mexborough district; and if he will make provision for an increase in the amount of money allocated for 1973–74 so that such schemes can be provided throughout the Yorkshire and Humberside Region.

Sixty-eight young people were employed by Community Industry in the Mexborough district at the end of January. The Government have decided to increase the grant to enable expansion to provide at least 2,000 places. New areas for expansion have not yet been decided.

Doctors (Insurance Cover)

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment why he has refused to take action to secure arbitration in the dispute which has existed for nearly three years between the staff side of the joint negotiating committee appointed by the British Medical Association and the management side appointed by the Secretary of State for Social Services regarding adequate insurance cover for young doctors who may die from hepatitis contracted in a renal dialysis unit.

Section 2 of the Industrial Courts Act 1919 empowers my right hon. Friend to refer a trade dispute to arbitration only at the request of both parties. I would refer the hon. Member to the reply my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services gave to the hon. Member for Norwich, South (Dr. Stuttaford) on 13th February.—[Vol. 850, c. 296.]

Fishing Certificate Course

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will make a statement on the eligibility of share fishermen to participate in the training opportunities scheme in order to undertake the second hand fishing certificate course.

The training opportunities scheme is intended to help individuals to obtain training which it is not the responsibility of industry to provide. The scheme is not intended to supplant an industry's own arrangements for training. The fishing industry has arrangements for training share fishermen for the second hand fishing certificate. My officers are now considering whether there is a case for making training for this certificate available under the training opportunities scheme.

Industrial Disputes (Lost Working Days)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many working days were lost in the seven years up to 1966 and how many in the seven years since 1966, respectively, due to stoppages of work in pursuance of industrial disputes.

Industrial Accidents (Cheadle)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many prosecutions there were for negligence causing an industrial accident in Cheadle rural district in each of the past 10 years.

In the area of the Cheadle rural district during the period 1963–72, two firms were prosecuted for contraventions of the Factories Act 1961, or regulations made under the Act, associated with accidents. One prosecution was in 1963, the other in 1970.

Leek

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the numbers unemployed in each of the employment areas in the Leek parliamentary constituency in January 1973; what percentages of the working population they represent; and how the percentage figures compare with the national percentage figure.

Following is the information for 8th January 1973:

Employment exchange areaNumber unemployedPercentage rate of unemployment*
Leek…2832·3
Cheadle…2372·9
Biddulph…208
Kidsgrove…450
The rate of unemployment for Great Britain was 3·5 per cent.

* The numbers unemployed expressed as a percentage of the estimated number of employees, employed and unemployed. The rate for Cheadle, Biddulph and Kidsgrove relates to the Stoke-on-Trent travel-to-work area which includes 5 other employment exchange areas. Rates can be calculated for this area as a whole but not separately for its constituent parts.

Portsmouth

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will undertake a special study of the social and economic problems confronting communities like that of the city of Portsmouth where earnings are often below the average for similar work in other parts of the country; and whether he will make a statement on the policy of his Department towards such areas.

Proposals for special studies of this kind are in the first instance a matter for my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment. There is no evidence available to me that earnings in the Portsmouth area are substantially below the national average.

Social Services

Nurses (Pay)

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services by how much he estimates that the last salary increase granted to nurses within the National Health Service has been eroded by inflation; and when they may expect a further increase in their emoluments.

Nurses in the National Health Service received a pay increase of about 8 per cent. from 1st April 1972. The latest available figures from the general retail prices index show that in the nine months from March to December 1972 prices increased by about 6·2 per cent. The date of any further pay increase is a matter for negotiation on the Nurses and Midwives Whitley Council.

Benefits (Strikers)

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will conduct an inquiry comparing social security benefits available to employees who voluntarily withdraw their labour during industrial disputes in Great Britain with those available in the United States of America, Japan and the EEC countries.

Some information has already been obtained in regard to the United States and EEC countries and I am not satisfied that it would be worth while devoting resources to a special inquiry.

Emergency Relief Services (Commercial Companies)

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has approved the purchase of the emergency relief services for National Health Service medical practitioners in Liverpool and Birmingham by Allied Investors Ltd.; if he is satisfied that these services should be organised by commercial companies rather than by the doctors or their organisations; and if he will make a statement.

This transaction did not require my right hon. Friend's approval. Relief services are employed by general practitioners, who are independent contractors, answerable for the acts and omissions of their agents. I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Widnes (Mr. Oakes) on 20th November about the arrangements for ensuring that standards are adequate whatever the form of ownership of the deputising agency.—[Vol. 846, c. 307.]

Road Accidents (Emergency Medical Teams)

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider arrangements for dealing with road and motorway accidents in order to ensure the establishment of an on-the-spot medical treatment team where considered necessary.

Ambulance crews are trained to give assistance to casualties at the site of the accident and during their transit to hospital centres equipped to provide effective treatment. They can also, if they consider it necessary, call for medical aid to provide medical treatment at the site of the accident.

Sickness (Lost Working Days)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many working days were lost due to sickness in 1972.

The only information available relates to the numbers of days of certified incapacity reported in connection with claims under the National Insurance Acts. In the period June 1970 to May 1971 there were 314 million such days for sickness benefit and 20 million for injury benefit. About one-third of the days of sickness related to incapacity lasting throughout the period. The figures for 1971–72 are not yet available, but preliminary estimates indicate that they will be very similar to those for 1970–71.

Physiotherapists

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now institute a job evaluation of physiotherapists in the National Health Service, with a view to reviewing their career structure and the level of their salaries.

This is a matter for the Whitley Council, which, as I have indicated previously, has under consideration the grading structure of this profession, amongst others.

International Labour Organisation

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the Government will now ratify International Labour Organisation Convention 121 and Recommendation 121; and whether he will make a statement.

No. There are certain features of these measures which are incompatible with industrial injuries legislation in this country.

Overseas Doctors (Medical Qualifications)

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has established criteria to assess the relative value of medical qualifications possessed by overseas doctors who practise or seek to practise in this country.

The recognition of overseas medical qualifications for registration to practise in this country is a matter for the General Medical Council; the council is in the course of reviewing its arrangements for registration of overseas qualified doctors. If they intend to enter National Health Service hospital employment overseas doctors are also subject to a period of assessment under a clinical attachment scheme unless they are in an exempt category.

Pensioners' Organisations

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will agree to meet representatives of Task Force, and Wandsworth Retired Pensioners Organisations during their Week of Protest, which is to take place from 23rd February to 2nd March, to highlight the problems now being faced by retired pensioners; and if he will make a statement

If Task Force asks me to meet its representatives and those of the Wandsworth Retired Pensioners Organisations, I will certainly meet them on a date to be agreed.

Low-Paid Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many working families are earning less than the current supplementary benefit level; and how many of these are £2 below.

The latest estimates suggest that there were approximately 54,000 two-parent families in Great Britain with the head in full-time work but with resources below supplementary benefit levels at the end of 1971, of whom probably fewer than 15,000 had resources £2 a week or more below those levels. The estimates are comparable with those published in "Two Parent Families" (HMSO, 1971) and are subject to the same margins of error.

Hospital Waiting Lists (Manchester)

asked the Secretary of State for Socal Services if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the number of people awaiting different types of operations to be performed in hospitals in the Manchester Regional Hospital Board area and the average waiting time for each patient.

Separate statistics of numbers of persons awaiting operations are not available, but the number of persons awaiting admission to hospitals coming under the Manchester Regional Hospital Board in the specialties shown as at 31st December 1972 were:

SpecialtyNumber on Waiting List
General Surgery17,259
Ear Nose and Throat13,630
Traumatic and Orthopaedic Surgery9,225
Ophthalmology1,670
Dental Surgery1,045
Gynaecology9,289
Waiting times for admission vary according to specialty and the circumstances of individual cases and averages, therefore, have little meaning.

Reserve Pension Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what calculation he has made as to the pension earned by an employed person who at age 30 years with regular annual earnings of £1,500 leaves an employment covered by an occupational pension scheme after four years and 11 months and is paid into the reserve pension scheme as compared with the pension earned by a person in identical circumstances who has been in the reserve pension scheme throughout that period.

Assuming the leaving date to be the birthday and midway through the income tax year, the pension earned by a reserve scheme premium for the period of service would be £1·88 a week for a man and £1·27 a week for a woman. The respective amounts earned by contributions paid continuously into the reserve pension scheme over the same period would be £2·07 for a man and £1·40 for a woman. These scale rates of pension would of course be subject to increase by bonuses which reflect the period of membership of the scheme.

Doctors (Insurance Cover)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what reasons were given to him by the staff side appointed by him on the Whitley Council for refusing arbitration in the dispute which exists on the inadequate insurance cover for young doctors and their wives in the event of death resulting from their medical service within the National Health Service;(2) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names of the members serving on the Joint Negotiating Committee considering the inadequate cover for young doctors who may die when on special duty; when this matter was first raised; how many meetings have discussed this matter; and if he will make a statement.

Negotiations between the Department and representatives of National Health Service staff interests as a whole—including all National Health Service medical staff—for improvements in the existing National Health Service injury allowance provisions are at an advanced stage, and it is anticipated that the substantial increases in the rates of allowance and the other improvements likely to result for all staff from these negotiations will be applied retrospectively from 25th May 1972.A separate claim that the injury allowances of junior hospital doctors should be linked with their future potential earnings as consultants or general practitioners rather than with their current salaries was made formally and in detail in May 1972 in the Joint Negotiating Committee. This is the forum in which negotiations on the remuneration and terms and conditions of service for hospital doctors and dentists are now conducted, and in which the management side is represented by officials from the health departments and the staff side by the negotiating subcommittee of the Cen- tral Committee for Hospital Medical Services of the British Medical Association. The claim has been referred to at four meetings of the committee, as well as at an additional informal meeting, and at three meetings between myself and representatives of the medical profession. It has wide and complex implications which, together with the request by the professions' representatives that I should join them in applying for arbitration on the matter, require and are being given full and careful consideration: I hope to reply to it shortly.

Prescriptions (School Children)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations have been made to him to consider allowing children at school to have prescriptions free of charge, and particularly in view of the raising of the school leaving age; and what reply he has sent.

Eighty-three letters since September 1972. Replies have explained that no relationship is intended between the age limit for automatic exemption from prescription charges and the age of ending full-time education.

Benefits (Payment By Giro)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) whether he is satisfied with the operation of the system for the payment of social security benefits through the Post Office Giro, as far as security is concerned;(2) how many cases have been reported of fraudulent encashment of social security benefits paid through the Post Office Giro.

I am satisfied with the system. In 1972 about 37,500 Giro orders replaced by my Department were later found to have been cashed. The question of fraud arose in only a proportion of those cases but central records are not maintained of the number.

Psychotropic Drugs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to issue his advice to prescribers on the use of psychotropic drugs.

Pharmaceutical Manufacturers (Voluntary Price Regulation)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the net sum received from pharmaceutical manufacturers under the voluntary price regulation scheme in 1971–72 and the percentage this represents of the total purchase of pharmaceutical products for the National Health Service in England.

This information is not readily available. The following estimates relate to medicines used in the United Kingdom, including those used in hospitals but excluding the remuneration of pharmacists and the cost of appliances:—

19711972
££
Estimated costs200 million230 million
Estimated annual value of price increases2·5 million2·6 million
Estimated annual value of price reductions1·2 million1·4 million
Lump sum payments from companies100,00047,000

Health Centres

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated average cost of building a health centre in the current financial year; and how this compares with the average cost, at constant prices, in each of the previous three years.

Following is the information requested in terms of capital expenditure on building work only approved for loan sanction purposes to the nearest £1,000.

£
1972–73………72,000
1971–72………61,000
1970–71………65,000
1969–70………56,000
The figures do not include expenditure on sites, furniture or equipment which is no longer subject to prior approval by my Department.

European Economic Community

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the harmonisation of prices for medicines in the European Community will mean an increase in the prices now paid by the National Health Service.

There are no proposals for the harmonisation of the prices of medicines in the European Economic Community.

Infant Mortality

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the rate of infant mortality in the United Kingdom in the two most recent years for which figures are available.

Deaths of infants under one year of age per thousand live births in the United Kingdom were 17·9 in 1971 and 17·5 provisional), in 1972.

Pemphigus Vulgaris

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider adding the disease pemphigus vulgaris to the current list which will exempt sufferers from paying prescription charges.

No. I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Woolwich, East (Mr. Mayhew) on 12th December.—[Vol. 848 c. 70–1.]

Education And Science

Northern Economic Planning Council

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she has read the report of Sir William Reid, Chairman of the Northern Economic Planning Council, on the position of children in education; and whether she is taking steps to act on his recommendations.

I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to the memorandum "Bridging the Gap" which was the subject of a Press conference held by Sir William in November last year. The memorandum was sent to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment and I have nothing to add to his reply of 18th December. The report on education "Challenge of the Changing North" was published in September 1970 and my right hon. Friend's detailed comments on the recommendations were sent to the chairman in April 1971.

School Managers (Representation)

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will issue a circular requesting all local education authorities to include on all governing and managing bodies of schools and colleges direct representation of teachers in those schools, and of parents of children in those schools and, where appropriate, of mature students; and if she will also consider the organisation of courses to train people for such service.

No. The constitution of such bodies for county schools is a matter for the local education authority. If training is indeed needed by managers or governors the authority is in the best position to provide it.

Nursery Education (Hampshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) how many children of three years and four years of age, respectively, in the administrative county of Hampshire are classified as handicapped for purposes of satisfying the criteria in paragraph 12 of Circular No. 2/73 Nursery Education; and what percentage she estimates these children represent of their respective age groups;(2) how many children of three years and four years of age, respectively, in the administrative county of Hampshire came from homes which are culturally and environmentally deprived as defined in paragraph 9 of Circular No. 2/73 Nursery Education; and what percenage she estimates these children represent of their respective age groups.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many teachers and nursery assistants are currently employed to teach children in nursery classes in the administrative county of Hampshire; and how many more teachers and nursery assistants on her proposed staffing ratio of about 1:13 she estimates would need to be recruited by 1982 for the administrative county of Hampshire, in order to provide full-time education for 15 per cent. of three-and four-year-olds and part-time education for 35 per cent. of three-year-olds and 75 per cent of four-year-olds as proposed in paragraph 2 of Circular No. 2/73 Nursery Education.

In January 1972, Hampshire's two nursery classes, containing 38 full-time equivalent pupils, were staffed by two qualified teachers and two nursery assistants. In addition there were 1,760 other full-time equivalent pupils under 5 in primary schools, staffed, on the basis of the county's average primary pupil teacher ratio of 26·1:1, by about 70 qualified teachers. No realistic estimate can be made of the number of children under 5 in 1982 in the areas of individual local education authorities, but they were asked in Appendix B of Circular 2/73 to estimate the number of three-and four-year-olds in January 1976.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many rising-fives and other four-year-olds, as defined in paragraph 18 of Circular No. 2/73 Nursery Education, are currently attending reception classes of primary schools in the administrative county of Hampshire.

In January 1972, the latest date for which information is available, 1,682 rising-fives and 78 other four-year-olds were attending primary schools full time.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) how many three-and four-year-old children, respectively, are currently receiving part-time nursery education in the administrative county of Hampshire; and what percentage of their age groups each represents;(2) how many three-year and four-year-old children, respectively, are currently receiving whole-time nursery education in the administrative county of Hampshire; and what percentage of their age groups each represent.

In January 1972, the latest date for which information is available, the numbers in maintained nursery schools were:

Full-time pupils
Aged 3…………9
Aged 4…………22

Part-time pupils

Aged 3…………7
Aged 4…………7

These numbers represent 0·1 per cent. of all the children born three or four years previously in Hampshire.

Disadvantaged Children

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether, in order to assist local education authorities readily to identify disadvantaged children for the purpose of fulfilling paragraphs 9 to 11 of Circular No. 2/73 Nursery Education, she will define more precisely the phrase in paragraph 9 about children from homes which are culturally and economically deprived.

The phrase describes children from impoverished or inadequate homes who lack opportunities to develop an early mastery of language and other basic skills. Head teachers and local education authorities are in the best position to identify disadvantaged children within their own areas and I do not propose to issue detailed guidance on this subject.

Independent Schools (Fees)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she will reach a decision on applications from independent schools for permission to raise fees in accordance with notice that had been given to parents prior to the standstill period on prices; and when, in particular, her Department will be giving an answer to St. Lawrence College, Ramsgate, on this subject.

Independent schools which have applied for my consent to an increase in fees during the standstill period of the counter-inflation programme are currently being informed of the results of their applications. My Department wrote to the solicitors acting for St. Lawrence College, Ramsgate, on 21st February 1973.

Defence

Widows' And Family Pensions

58.

asked the Minister of State for Defence if an officer's widow whose husband died before 1st September 1950 has a reserved right under the Royal Warrant of 1940 to a pension at twice the maximum rate of an "ordinary" Service widow's pension if her husband's death was due to wounds, injuries or disease directly attributable to the conditions of service; and if he will make a statement.

A reserved right under the 1940 Royal Warrant would be at 1940 rates; there is no general reserved right to an attributable pension at double the rate of an occupational pension under subsequent codes. Pensions increase provisions exclude pensions paid in respect of death or injury attributable to service which are uprated separately when Department of Health and Social Security benefits are reviewed, and rates of war widows' pension have increased so substantially since 1940 that the question of reserved rights does not have practical relevance.

asked the Minister of State for Defence what is the number, and the proportion, of those killed on active service with the Army in Northern Ireland whose dependants have been able to get Army pensions.

Twelve—about 8 per cent. of those killed—had sufficient service to qualify for an award under the Forces family pension scheme. These awards are additional to the war widows' or dependants' pensions which have been awarded by the Department of Health and Social Security.

Life Insurance

asked the Minister of State for Defence what steps his Department takes to encourage members of the Armed Forces to insure their lives against death for a capital sum; and whether these steps are also taken in the case of cadets and other members of the volunteer forces.

Life insurance is a personal matter but members of the Regular forces are encouraged to make suitable provision. Advice is given in occasional Defence Council instructions, and facilities are given for lectures and individual advice on savings, insurance and other financial matters. In addition, non-public funds, which are operated on a contributory basis by voluntary membership, provide lump sums for dependants in the case of death. These arrangements do not generally apply to members of the Reserve forces, who are primarily civilians and are expected to make whatever provision they feel is necessary.

Orkney And Shetland

asked the Minister of State for Defence what plans he has for any military development in or around Orkney or Shetland.

The only plans for military developments in or around Orkney or Shetland are for a possible re-siting of the aerial at the United States coastguard signals station at Scatsta Ness, Shetland, and the construction of some additional houses for United States and British Servicemen at a number of sites in Shetland.

Trade And Industry

Concorde

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether, in order to demonstrate the advantages of flying in Concorde to potential customers, he will take all possible action to speed the bringing into commission of Concorde aircraft on international routes.

The development programme is already aimed at achieving the earliest possible date for Concorde to enter service.

Federal Pepublic Of Germany (Re-Exports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what are the tax disincentive measures which operate against the re-export of goods entering the Federal Republic of Germany from East Germany.

I understand that a West German firm importing goods from East Germany can offset 11 per cent. of their value against its VAT liabilities. This tax concession is lost if the goods are subsequently re-exported to another country.

Steel

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will list quarterly figures for the value and volume of imports and exports of finished steel products during 1971 and 1972 and indicate the corresponding percentage charges.

The following are the figures:

IMPORTS AND EXPORTS OF FINISHED STEEL PRODUCTS
ImportsExports
Thousand tonnes£ millionThousand tones£ million
1971:
1st quarter45741·791471·4
2nd quarter42235·11,29194·6
3rd quarter52438·91,20887·1
4th quarter62945·01,29398·1
1972:
1st quarter69947·71,11580·8
2nd quarter66247·81,13485·2
3rd quarter*56547·183962·3
4th quarter*73562·31,364103·3
PERCENTAGE CHANGES IN EACH QUARTER OF 1972 OVER THE CORRESPONDING QUARTER OF 1971
1st quarter+53·0+14·3+22·0+13·3
2nd quarter+56·9+36·0-12·2-9·9
3rd quarter*+7·8+21·2-30·5-28·5
4th quarter*+16·9+38·3+5·5+5·3
* The figures of imports and exports in the third and fourth quarters of 1972 were distorted by the effect of the dock strike of August 1972.
Finished steel products covers ingots and other primary forms; bars, rods, angles, shapes and sections; universals, plates and sheets (excluding lacquered tinplate); hoop and strip; certain rails and railway track material; tubes and pipes; castings and forgings, unworked; and railway locomotive axles, tyres and wheels.

Overseas Projects Group

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry whether he has any plans to improve the effectiveness of the Overseas Projects Group.

The Overseas Projects Group was set up some four years ago to act as a focal point within Government for dealing with problems arising in seeking business from large capital projects overseas. The administration of this group now falls under the British Overseas Trade Board which considers that the group should continue to operate and that its activities should be strengthened and extended in several ways.In particular, on the recommendation of the Chairman of the Board, Lord Thorneycroft, I intend to set up shortly an advisory panel to which the Overseas Projects Group will be able to turn for advice in connection with all aspects of its work. It will comprise a small number of experienced persons from industry and commerce as well as representatives of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and the Export Credit Guarantees Department. Secondly, the existing Feasibility Fund which is administered by the Overseas Projects Group is to be expanded in scope so that it may assist with the costs of certain pre-contractual activities in pursuit of large projects.

Replica Firearms

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if, in his forthcoming Budget, he will place an ad valorem import duty of 500 per cent. on replica firearms.

The problem posed by replica firearms and imitation toy guns and ways of dealing with it are being considered by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department.

Meat Substitutes (Protein Content)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will seek powers to require the manufacturers of meat substitute foods to state clearly the amount of protein contained in the substitute compared to an equivalent weight of meat in place of which the substitute is offered.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has powers under Section 7 of the Food and Drugs Act 1955 to make regulations with regard to the labelling and advertising of such products. The Food Standards Committee is at present considering the need for regulations in relation to unconventional protein products.

Rates

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his meetings on 9th and 13th February, 1973, with local authorities and organisations representing local authorities.

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement following his meeting with representatives of the Association of Municipal Corporations on 13th February.

I have nothing to add to the replies I gave to Questions from the hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Alfred Morris) and others on Thursday, 22nd February.—[Vol. 851, c. 677–81.]

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement regarding his recent meeting with leaders of the Association of Municipal Corporations and on subsequent developments.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer which I have given to the hon. Member for Hackney, Central (Mr. Clinton Davis) today.

Economic Policy

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if he will now make a ministerial broadcast on the subject of Government economic policy.

Unless and until I make a statement to the contrary, the House should assume that I have no plans to make a ministerial broadcast.

Counter-Inflation Policy

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister if he has yet arranged further discussions with the Civil Service unions in regard to phase 3 of the prices and incomes policy.

Representatives of the National Staff Side have had a meeting with the Head of the Civil Service since the stage 2 proposals were published and they know that I would be glad to meet them again whenever this would be helpful.

Scotland

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if he will visit Dundee in addition to the other places in Scotland he plans to visit on 11th May.

Compensation For Personal Injury (Royal Commission)

asked the Prime Minister whether he will now announce the names of the members of the Royal Commission on Civil Liability and Compensation for Personal Injury.

The Queen has been pleased to approve that the following be appointed members of the Commission on Civil Liability and Compensation for Personal Injury under the chairmanship of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Pearson:

Sir Philip Allen, GCB, former Permanent Under-Secretary of State, Home Office.
Mr. Walter Anderson, CBE, General Secretary of the National and Local Government Officers Association, and Chairman of the Social Insurance and Industrial Welfare Committee of the Trades Union Congress.
Mrs. Margaret Brooke, Vice-Chairman of the National Federation of Women's Institutes, and a Justice of the Peace.
Lord Cameron, DSC, a Senator of the College of Justice in Scotland.
Professor R. B. Duthie, MA, ChM, FRCS, Nuffield Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at the University of Oxford.
Mr. R. J. Kerr-Muir, OBE, Chairman of the Social Security Committee of the Confederation of British Industry, and formerly a Director of Courtaulds Ltd.
Mr. R. A. MacCrindle, QC.
Mr. Norman S. Marsh, QC, one of the Law Commissioners.
Mr. Denis A. Marshall, a solicitor and a member of the Council of the Law Society.
Professor Alan Prest, Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics.
Mr. A. E. Sansom, FCII, Managing Director of the Iron Trades Employers Insurance Association Ltd.
Professor R. S. F. Schilling, MD, DSc, FRCP, Professor of Occupational Health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.
Mr. R. S. Skerman, FIA, Chief Actuary of the Prudential Assurance Co. Ltd., and former President of the Institute of Actuaries.
Miss Olive Stevenson, Reader in Applied Social Studies at the University of Oxford and Professorial Fellow of St. Anne's College.
Mr. James Stewart, WS.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Wheat (Denaturing Dyes)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the availability of blue dye or fish oil as specified by the European Economic Community regulations for the purpose of denaturing wheat; and what alternative dyes may be used.

The blue dye specified in the European Economic Community's regulations dealing with the denaturing of wheat is Patent Blue V. It is in short supply just now, but fish oil is readily available. In view of the shortage of Patent Blue V it has been agreed with the EEC Commission that four other dyes may be used in the United Kingdom until 30th April 1973. These dyes are amaranth, orange G, indigo-carmine and green S.

Meat Substitutes

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what studies of meat substitutes are being made by his Department.

My Department is making a detailed study of this subject. Its novel protein intelligence unit is maintaining a close liaison with all the firms developing and marketing these products in the United Kingdom and is using the information gained to assess the possible impact that these new materials may have in the future on food and agriculture.In addition, the Food Standards Committee is at present reviewing the use of all unconventional protein products as food or as ingredients in food and the need for regulations under the Food and Drugs Act 1955.

Meat

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will produce figures to illustrate the seasonal fluctuations in the retail price of beef, pork and lamb in each of the last five years.

It is not possible to indicate with any precision the seasonal variation in meat prices, but the following table illustrates the way the retail price for beef, pork and lamb has fluctuated seasonally over the last five years.

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Retail prices shown as an index with January 1962 = 100Moving average of retail prices to remove the effects of seasonal changesSeasonal fluctuations (2 as percentage of 1)
1. Beef
1968:
1st quarter average149142104·4
2nd quarter average149147101·6
3rd quarter average14914999·7
4th quarter average14815198·3
1969:
1st quarter average15315499·8
2nd quarter average15715799·9
3rd quarter average163160101·6
4th quarter average16316399·9
1970:
1st quarter average16416698·5
2nd quarter average16916999·5
3rd quarter average176174101·5
4th quarter average1761S097·4
1971:
1st quarter average18518898·3
2nd quarter average201195103·2
3rd quarter average204202100·7
4th quarter average20520998·2
1972:
1st quarter average21421698·7
2nd quarter average22522699·5
3rd quarter average240n.a.n.a.
4th quarter average248n.a.n.a.
2. Pork
1968:
1st quarter average124122102·0
2nd quarter average12312399·7
3rd quarter average12312499·4
4th quarter average125125100·1
1969:
1st quarter average126125100·4
2nd quarter average12612799·2
3rd quarter average12713097·9
4th quarter average134133100·8
1970:
1st quarter average137136100·7
2nd quarter average140140100·0
3rd quarter average14214299·9
4th quarter average145145100·5
1971:
1st quarter average147147100·2
2nd quarter average14814999·9
3rd quarter average15015099·6
4th quarter average15315399·8
1972:
1st quarter average15415798·3
2nd quarter average16216498·6
3rd quarter average170n.a.n.a.
4th quarter average186n.a.n.a.

1

2

3

Retail prices shown as an index with January 1962 = 100

Moving average of retail prices to remove the effects of seasonal changes

Seasonal fluctuations (2 as percentage of 1)

3. Lamb
1968:
1st quarter average140135103·9
2nd quarter average140138101·6
3rd quarter average13714097·9
4th quarter average14014397·7
1969:
1st quarter average148147100·2
2nd quarter average155152101·5
3rd quarter average158156101·3
4th quarter average158158100·0
1970:
1st quarter average15716197·2
2nd quarter average166164101·7
3rd quarter average170166102·6
4th quarter average16417096·4
1971:
1st quarter average17017398·4
2nd quarter average184175105·0
3rd quarter average17817999·5
4th quarter average17418494·9
1972:
1st quarter average18719396·6
2nd quarter average209207101·3
3rd quarter average228n.a.n.a.
4th quarter average231n.a.n.a

Note: Figures in columns 1 and 2 have been rounded to the nearest unit.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in the Ministry's statistics for the movement of meat, only meat for human consumption is included.

The statistical series "Food supplies moving into consumption" includes meat used for human consumption only.Figures published in the monthly Digest of Statistics relating to meat produced from United Kingdom slaughterhouses include meat used for pet foods and a small amount of meat and offal unfit for human consumption. Adjustments are made to these figures to take into account imports, exports, waste and non-human use, the resulting figure being the basis of the table "Food supplies moving into consumption".

Nuts

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that there is an adequate supply of nuts available to meet the expected demand.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he

£ per long ton
197119721973
MidMidMidMidMidMidMidMidMid
JanuaryAprilJulyOctoberJanuaryAprilJulyOctoberJanuary
Brazils…476·00470·00612·00640·00650·00530·00610·00583·00590·00
Cashews…710·00620·00705·00695·00660·00640·00660·00695·00700·00
Hazelnuts (a)…575·00560·00600·00570·00557·50585·00605·00590·00585·00
Almonds…645·00600·00770·00Nominal780·00780·00930·00950·00980·00
Walnuts (a)…560·00500·00550·00580·00580·00760·00775·00800·00780·00
Groundnuts…116·50107·00102·5095·0097·95100·00106·00not quoted135·50
(a) metric tons.

Fruit And Vegetables (Eec Proposals)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what organisations he is consulting about the draft proposal concerning conditions for applying protective measures for fruit and vegetables; and what would be its effect in the United Kingdom.

The conditions for applying protective measures for fruit and vegetables are set out in regulation EEC 2707/72. I know of no proposals for revising these conditions.

Eec Directives

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action he now proposes to take to implement EEC Directive 72/161 of 17th April 1972.

The Government are still considering how best to implement the provisions of Titles I and II of this Directive and will be putting proposals to the Commission in due course. Title III has now been overtaken by the extended provisions of the European Social Fund and is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment, whose officials, I am informed, are at this time discussing the matter with the Commission.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he now intends to introduce legislation to implement the provisions of EEC Directive 72/160 of 17th April 1972.

will make a statement on price movements in nuts over the past two years.

The following table gives the United Kingdom market price for the main types of edible nuts for the past two years:

I hope to introduce the necessary statutory instruments before the Summer Recess.

Food Surpluses (Eec Countries)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proposals the Government have made or are contemplating about the reduction of food surpluses in the Common Market.

This will be a major consideration in our examination of the Commission's proposals for measures of agricultural support in 1973–74.

Food (Subsidies)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether a proposal to subsidise food in the United Kingdom at the present time will be allowed under Articles 92–94 of the Treaty of Rome; whether the Government have discussed such a proposal with the European Community; and if so, with what result.

This would be a matter for consideration by the Commission and the Council. The only proposal under consideration by the Government is that for the sale of butter to those in receipt of social security benefits. This could be implemented under Decision No 73/10/EEC.

Dairy Products

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proposals the Government are putting forward for world commodity agreements in dairy products.

The Government consider that the GATT provides the best forum for securing progress towards world commodity agreements for milk products, and they will continue to work for such agreements in that forum. The United Kingdom is a member of the GATT agreement on dairy products, which at present covers skimmed milk powder. As members of the European Economic Community we are now participating with other countries concerned, notably New Zealand and Australia, in GATT discussions aimed at extending the GATT arrangements to cover certain types of butter fat.

White Fish Authority Publicity Scheme

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he can announce the future of the White Fish Authority publicity scheme.

My right hon. Friends and I have now considered the representations we received following the statement which my right hon. Friend the Lord President made last July about the future of this scheme.In doing so, we have taken into account both the very wide range of opinion expressed by the industry on this question, and the need to look at the authority's publicity work in the context of its overall resources and responsibilities. We have also borne in mind the effects of imposing a further change in the authority's administrative arrangements at this particular time.Our conclusion is that it would not be right to determine the scale of any future activities in the field of publicity or the means by which these should be financed, until the authority has had a chance to reassess its priorities in the light of its forthcoming move to Edinburgh. We have therefore decided that the existing publicity scheme should continue for the time being, but that the authority should be asked as a matter of priority to consider what changes in this, and in its levy arrangements as a whole, might be appropriate to existing needs. Such changes would of course be the subject of further consultation with the industry.

Court Of Protection

asked the Attorney-General how many people at present have their financial affairs administered by the Court of Protection.

asked the Attorney-General what is the current value of money administered by the Court of Protection on behalf of other people.

The current value of patients' assets under the care of the Court of Protection is approximately £100,000,000.

asked the Attorney-General whether he will hold an independent inquiry into the investment policies of the Court of Protection.

Civil Service

Greater London Development Plan

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what was the retail cost of the two volumes of the report of the Layfield Panel on the Greater London Plan, together with cost of its production; and if he will make a statement concerning the cost policy adopted towards publications of this character which are reproductions of typewritten sheets.

The retail price of each of the two volumes of the inquiry into the Greater London Development Plan is £5. Final production costs are not yet known, but the estimated cost is approximately £7,000 for the two volumes, excluding publishing overheads and trade discounts. In order to keep the prices of similar publications in line with each other and overall as low as possible, HMSO includes in its selling prices an addition in lieu of the cost of setting type when camera ready copy is provided by Government Departments.

Pay And Pensions

asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will give for June 1970 the grade and rate of pay for the lowest-paid civil servant and his pension entitlement after 40 years' service, and the pay and pension conditions at the latest stated date and similar details for the Head of the Civil Service.

PayPension
30th June 1970:
Female Cleaner (outside London)………£12 18s. 0d. a week£5 7s. 10d. a week
Head of Civil Service………£10,400 p.a.£4,800 p.a.
31st December 1972:
Female Cleaner (outside London)………£16·30 a week£8·15 a week
Head of Civil Service………£16,750 p.a.£8,375 p.a.

Environment

Manchester-Sheffield Motorway

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received urging early construction of the Manchester-Sheffield motorway; what reply he has made; and if he will make a statement.

Representations in favour of this scheme and urging early construction have been received from local authorities and other bodies. Other representations have opposed any major new road in the Peak District National Park. All concerned have been informed that a comprehensive study is being undertaken by consulting engineers. It is too early to say when conclusions are likely to be reached.

Railway Land

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the acreage of derelict or disused land still in the ownership or control of British Rail.

Motor Vehicles (Colours)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the contributions which can be made to improved road safety by the painting of public service vehicles in bright colours; what steps have been taken in this respect; and with what results.

I have no evidence that the painting of vehicles in bright colours would make a significant contribution to improved road safety; but I am considering the question in relation to vehicles generally, rather than to public service vehicles in particular.

The lowest-paid general service grade in the non-industrial Civil Service is that of full-time female cleaner.

Lorry Routes And Parking Sites

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to complete and to publish his plans for a network of statutorily designed lorry routes; and approximately when he expects the scheme to be introduced.

I have at present no proposals for statutorily designated lorry routes. My present advice is that lorries should be routed on to the primary network avoiding sensitive areas where possible.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress is being made under his policy for the establishment of lorry parks; and if he will publish a list of where such parks have been or are to be established in 1973.

Sites for the national network are being identified on a regional basis. Tenders for development of the first site to be acquired by the Department will be invited shortly.

Motor Cyclists (Crash Helmets)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many motor cyclists were killed on the roads each year as a result of head injuries; and what proportion of these were wearing crash helmets.

About 800 motor cyclists and passengers are killed each year. About two-thirds of these deaths are due to head injuries. The number wearing safety helmets is not known.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the percentage of motor cyclists who now wear crash helmets.

About 80 per cent. of motor cylists; 75 per cent. of scooter riders; and 50 per cent. of moped riders.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the number of deaths and serious injuries which will be averted annually by compulsory wearing of crash helmets by motor cyclists.

Historic Buildings (Bromley)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why his Department has informed the London borough of Bromley that it is not willing to accept additions to the borough's list of buildings of special interest under Section 54 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971; and whether he will now accept further nominations to the list.

This London borough has been re-surveyed and a new statutory list of buildings of special architectural or historic interest is now ready for issue. It is my right hon. and learned Friend's policy to issue such lists without further delay so that more buildings can be given statutory protection. However, as both the London borough and the Greater London Council have suggested additions, these will be examined urgently and any building found eligible will be added to the new list before issue. This is an exceptional measure as it is essential to avoid any further delay in the issue of this and other lists.

Road Accidents (Eyesight Tests)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what research has been undertaken by his Department into the eyesight of those involved in road accidents.

Extensive studies have been carried out in this country and abroad. I do not consider it necessary to duplicate this work.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will introduce legislation for an experimental period to require the eyesight of those involved in road accidents to be tested by a qualified optical practitioner.

Urban Transport Planning (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he can now say when he expects to reply to the recommendations in the Report of the Select Committee on Expenditure on Urban Transport Planning.

I cannot yet add to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member on 14th February.—[Vol. 850, c. 334.]

Greater London Development Plan (Motorway Proposals)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how he proposes to ascertain the views of the people of the London borough of Camden about the effects of the motorway proposals which affect that borough, as outlined in the Layfield Report; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will seek to discuss with London borough councils the setting up of local resident committees so that local views on proposed motorway plans can be fully discussed;(2) if he will invite residents in the London borough of Wandsworth to discuss with him the motorway proposals for the London borough of Wandsworth, as outlined in the Layfield Report.

The councils and residents of London boroughs will have a formal opportunity to make representations before any decisions are taken on motorway proposals not already fully discussed at the Greater London Development Plan inquiry.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will consider meeting representatives of the London borough of Camden to discuss the implications of the motorway proposals as outlined in the Layfield Report.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will invite members of the council of the London borough of Wandsworth to discuss with him the motorway proposals, as outlined in the Layfield Report, for the borough;(2) if he will seek to hold a meeting with members of London borough councils whose boroughs will be affected by the motorway proposals, as outlined in the Layfield Report.

I will of course consider any views which the London borough councils may wish to express on the Lay-field Panel's Report.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimated cost of the motorway proposals, as outlined in the Layfield Report; and if he will make a statement.

The panel estimates in paragraph 12.79 of its report that the effect of its revised primary road network would be to reduce the costs of the proposals in the plan by about one-third: from £1,592 million to £1,024 million at 1970 prices.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment according to what approximate time-scale he expects to announce Her Majesty's Government's views on the motorway proposals, as outlined in the Layfield Report.

Pedestrian Precincts

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the local authorities which have created traffic-free pedestrian precincts in town and city centres.

I have made orders under the Town and Country Planning Act 1971 converting streets into footpaths in central areas at the request of the following local authorities:

  • Bath
  • Birmingham
  • Bolton
  • Bournemouth
  • Bromsgrove
  • Burgess Hill
  • Camberley
  • Coventry
  • Crawley
  • Darwen
  • Denton
  • Haringey
  • Lancaster
  • Morecambe and Heysham
  • Rotherham
  • Scunthorpe
  • Southampton
  • Teesside
  • York
Authorities also have powers themselves to create pedestrian streets under the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1967. I do not have details of such orders.

Local Government Finance

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to introduce legislation for the reform of local government finance.

Traffic Intersections (Study)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many traffic intersections or proposals for traffic intersections have been the subject of study and comment by the Transport and Road Research Laboratory during the last three years.

Crown Properties (Tenants' Protection)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to give domestic tenants of Crown properties the protection afforded by the Rent Acts.

Kearsley (Rates)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what figure has been reported to him for the percentage increase in the cost for general rates in 1973–74 for domestic ratepayers in the Kearsley Urban District Council area.

The council has advised that it estimates the average increase in domestic rate payments next year to be 22 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he intends to take to assist Kearsley Urban District Council to alleviate the increase in the burden on domestic ratepayers in 1973–74.

The Government are considering as a matter of urgency the representations made by the local authority associations on behalf of local government generally.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Police Officers (Saigon)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether five British police officers are to remain in Saigon; and if so in what capacity and at whose expense.

These advisers will be withdrawn by the end of March as a result of the Vietnam agreement signed in Paris on 27th January 1973.

Pharmaceutical Manufacturers (Eec Fines)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the European Economic Community has imposed any fines on British pharmaceutical manufacturers under Articles 85 and 86; what is the total amount paid in such fines since 1969 by such manufacturers in other countries; and what machinery exists for his office to advise and protect British companies from incurring penalties.

I have been asked to reply.The European Commission has imposed no fines on British pharmaceutical manufacturers in their capacity as such. Her Majesty's Government are not responsible for administering the Community's rules of competition and have no knowledge of the total amount of fines paid. But my Department provides British companies with information and advice on the rules.

Home Department

Indian High Commission (Shooting Incident)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he can now make a further statement about the recent shooting incident at the Indian High Commission; and if he is satisfied that shots were fired by the police only after due warning had been given.

A youth has been charged with criminal offences arising out of this incident, which is now sub judice.

Replica Weapons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will amend the Firearms Act 1968 with a view to making replica weapons subject to certificate control;

(2) if he will seek powers to ban all advertisements of imitation weapons in advertising journals.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave yesterday to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Bolton, West (Mr. Redmond).—[Vol. 851, c. 257.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will issue guidance under the Firearms Act 1968 defining replica model guns.

The Firearms Act 1968 already defines "imitation firearms", in terms which appear to include replica model guns. The interpretation of this definition is a matter for the courts.

National Finance

European Communities (Publications)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the delay and difficulty for the public in obtaining the printed publications and regulations of the Commission of the European Communities, and in view of their importance to trade and industry in the United Kingdom, whether he will take further steps to ensure that they are readily and promptly available through Government bookshops.

I have been asked to reply.Her Majesty's Stationery Office as the United Kingdom sales agent for EEC publications places them on sale as soon as copies are received from the EEC printing office in Luxembourg. Continuous efforts are being made to speed up the production of Community regulations and other publications and their dispatch to the United Kingdom.

Crown Properties (Rateable Value)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what effect the revaluation of rateable values has had on Crown properties in the city of Manchester.

The revaluation of Crown properties in the city of Manchester for purposes of grant of contributions in lieu of rates has not yet been finalised.

Northern Ireland

Rents And Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether any of those withholding payment of rates and rents are in receipt of social security benefits; and whether he will make a statement.

About 18,000 people are withholding rent or rates, of whom about 13,000 are currently receiving social security benefits, which are subject to allocation by the Rent Allocation Board.

Border Poll

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) when the postal votes for the border poll in Northern Ireland will be sent out in the counties of Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Tyrone and Londonderry and in the county borough of Belfast;(2) on what dates the poll cards will be posted for the border poll in the counties of Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Tyrone and Londonderry and in the county borough of Belfast.

It would not be in the public interest to disclose this information.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland up to what time and date can the postal votes in the border poll in Northern Ireland be received in order to be counted in the referendum.

Votes by post may be received up to 8.00 p.m. on the day of the poll.

Casement Park (Army Occupation)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he has received a letter from the Irish Centre, Liverpool, concerning the Army's occupation of Casement Park; and what reply he has sent.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many hon. Members have written to him regarding the occupation of Casement Park; and what replies he has sent.

Twelve hon. Members have written on this subject. They were sent a copy of my letter of 19th January to the Gaelic Athletic Association, and told that the Army would leave Casement Park as soon as the security situation permitted.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what representations he has received from the Gaelic Athletic Association regarding the occupation of Casement Park; and if he will make a statement.

Discussions took place with the association on 2nd August and 19th December 1972 and a number of letters have been received from its branches. It has not been possible to set a date when the Army will vacate Casement Park. The matter is kept under review, and as soon as the security situation permits the Army will leave.

Wales

Cervical Cytology

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) if, in view of representations made by interested parties in Wales, he will review the period laid down for re-examination for cervical cytology, and reduce it from the present five years;(2) if he will provide for an increase in laboratory accommodation and personnel, in order to expand the cervical cytology examination system and reduce the period of examination from the present five-year interval.

A committee of experts is currently reviewing the period between routine re-examination for cervical cytology. I await its advice The committee has recently advised an extension of these examinations to women under the age of 35 who have had three or more pregnancies. Following consultations with the health professions and associations my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services and I have accepted its advice. Appropriate laboratory facilities will be provided.