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Volume 863: debated on Tuesday 6 November 1973

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 6th November 1973

Education And Science

Pay

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she is aware that on 31st October 1973 the average national wage for men was £40 per week and £23 per week for women; and whether she will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a detailed list giving the number and grades of all types of teaching staff and other types of employees coming within her ministerial responsibilities who fall below these amounts of weekly pay, stating what rates these employees were receiving on this date.

The information could not be produced without undue expenditure of effort and time.

"Tom A Lincoln" (Manuscript Copy)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will make financial arrangements to ensure the retention in Great Britain of the manuscript copy of Thomas Heywood's play "Tom a Lincoln", which has just come to light.

If the manuscript is offered for sale, public collections, drawing on their own acquisition funds and such other funds as are available to them, will be able to bid against private and overseas buyers. If the manuscript is bought for export the case will be considered under the usual procedure governing the proposed export of such items.

Violence And Truancy (Inquiry)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether the Association of Education Committees has completed its inquiry into violence and truancy in maintained schools; and, if so, what are its conclusions.

My Department collaborated with the Association of Education Committees and other interested parties in preparing a questionnaire on violence and indiscipline in schools, which was sent by the association to local education authorities in January, together with its own questionnaire on school attendance. The two investigations are separate and the latter one is the responsibility of the association. Over 60 per cent. of local education authorities replied to the violence and indiscipline questionnaire and analysis of their replies has now been completed. The main findings of the survey are as follows:

  • (1) The number of pupils in schools involved in incidents was proportionately very low, although noticeably greater in secondary than in primary schools.
  • (2) About 60 per cent. of the responding authorities thought that there had been no significant increase in misbehaviour.
  • (3) Over three-quarters of responding authorities thought that boys were more involved in misbehaviour than girls.
  • (4) There were proportionately three or four times as many incidents reported in the more densely populated areas.
  • (5) The average size of primary and secondary schools involved in incidents was greater than the national average size for these schools.
  • (6) Much of the vandalism affecting schools had occurred out of normal hours.
  • (7) Social problems related to home and community influences, in particular marital break-up or domestic tension, were the factors mainly blamed for misbehaviour.
  • (8) Better co-operation and communication, both within school and between schools and their local communities, were the remedies most often mentioned. Following these in order of frequency of mention came sound pastoral care arrangements, leadership and concern on the part of the head teacher and senior staff and good supporting social agencies.
  • Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will obtain and list in the OFFICIAL REPORT under the headings of the relevant local authorities the names of those schools with staff shortage where pupils were attending for less than normal hours for the week ended Friday 26th October, together with the number of pupils concerned in each school and within each authority.

    No. Some schools had a half-term holiday that week. In any case, though my right hon. Friend naturally keeps a careful watch on the situation she is reluctant to put on local education authorities the burden and expense of day-to-day reporting in a matter such as this, which falls within their own responsibility.

    Independent Schools (Lancashire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the independent schools in the area of the Manchester Education Authority, indicating those which are not recognised as efficient.

    The following schools are "registered"; those "recognised as efficient" are marked with an asterisk:

    • Manchester.
    • Amberleigh Preparatory School, Chorltoncum-Hardy.
    • *Chetham's School of Music, Manchester 3.
    • *Convent of Our Lady of Good Counsel School, Manchester 21.
    • Didsbury Jewish Day School, Manchester 8.
    • Manchester and District School for Jewish Handicapped Children, Manchester.
    • *Moor Allerton School, Manchester 20.
    • Norman House Preparatory School, New Moston, Manchester.
    • Oaks College, Chorlton-cum-Hardy.
    • St. David's Preparatory School, Didsbury.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the independent schools in the area of the Lancashire Education Authority, indicating those which are not recognised as efficient.

    The following schools are "registered"; those "recognised as efficient" are marked with an asterisk.

    Lancashire

    • Ardrossan School, Lytham.
    • Arranmore School. Ormskirk.
    • Ash Lea School, Eccles.
    • Atherton House School, Great Crosby.
    • *Bishop's Court School, Freshfield, Formby.
    • Branwood School, Eccles.
    • Briar Dene Kindergarten, Preston.
    • *Bridgewater School, Worsley, Walkden.
    • Caius House School, Urmston.
    • De Lacy House School, Accrington.
    • Convent of the Sacred Heart of Mary School, Kirkby.
    • Crosby Preparatory School, Crosby.
    • Devereux Preparatory School, Nelson.
    • *George Fox School, Lancaster.
    • Gwydr House School, Lytham St. Anne's.
    • Headroomgate Preparatory School, Lytham St. Anne's.
    • *Holmwood School, Formby.
    • *Huyton College, Huyton.
    • *Lawrence House School, Lytham St. Anne's. Manchester Jewish Grammar School, Prestwich.
    • *Moorland School, Clitheroe.
    • Mount Carmel Preparatory School, Ormskirk.
    • Newton Bank School, Newton le Willows.
    • Orchard Dene School, Rainhill, Liverpool.
    • *Paddock House Junior School, Accrington.
    • *Rossall School, Fleetwood.
    • St. Anne's College, Lytham St. Anne's.
    • *St. Gabriel's RC Preparatory School, St. Anne's-on-Sea.
    • St. Joseph's Children's Hospital, Formby.
    • *St. Mary's College, Grange-over-Sands.
    • *St. Pius X Boys Preparatory School, Fulwood, Preston.
    • *Scarisbrick Hall School, Scarisbrick, Ormskirk.
    • *Seafield Preparatory School, Crosby.
    • *Stonyhurst Preparatory School, Whalley, Blackburn.
    • *Stonyhurst College, Whalley, Blackburn.
    • Streatham House School, Blundell Sands.
    • The High School, Ormskirk.
    • The Spastics Centre, Urmston.
    • *Tower College, Rainhill, Liverpool.
    • *Upholland College, Wigan.
    • Wargrave House School, Newton le Willows.
    • Whitefield Preparatory School, Whitefield, Manchester.
    • Whitelake School, Urmston.

    Expenditure (Education)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will publish a table showing educational expenditure as a proportion both of the national gross domestic product and gross national product over the years 1965–66, to 1972–73, inclusive.

    The information sought is as follows:

    PUBLIC EXPENDITURE ON EDUCATION IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AS A PROPORTION OF GDP AND GNP FROM 1965–66 TO 1972–73.
    GDP Per cent.GNP Per cent
    1965–665·35·2
    1966–675·65·6
    1967–686·05·9
    1968–696·05·9
    1969–706·26·1
    1970–716·36·3
    1971–726·56·4
    1972–736·76·6

    School Transport

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she expects to receive the report of the Working Party on the Provision of School Transport and other matters; and if she will make a statement.

    I have just received the report, and will make a statement as soon as I have been able to study its findings.

    Teachers (Housing)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will immediately consult local education authorities about the adverse effects on education of teachers who find it impossible to secure residential accommodation within reasonable travel distance of their schools at rents or prices which they can afford; and whether she will make a statement.

    I know that some teachers, like other workers, have difficulty in obtaining suitable accommodation. Local education authorities may and do help them in various ways. My Department keeps itself broadly informed of developments, but this is a matter best tackled locally.

    Teachers' Superannuation

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations she has received on the level of contributions paid by teachers to their superannuation fund; and if she will make a statement.

    Representations have been made by the teachers' associations, orally in the working party on teachers' superannuation and by letter to right hon. and hon. Members, that the teachers' contribution should be reduced from 6·75 per cent. to 6 per cent. on the grounds that, consequent upon the Government Actuary's valuation of the teachers' superannuation scheme (England and Wales) for 1966–71, the supplementary contribution is to be reduced by 1 per cent. and the new entrant contribution by 0·3 per cent.The supplementary contribution is payable only by the employers. Both teachers and employers would have expected the latter to bear any increase and they should therefore receive the full benefit of any reduction.Although the new entrant contribution is shared between teachers and employers the agreement of June 1972 embodied in the working party's report was that the teachers share should be 6·75 per cent. and the employers should bear the balance, at present 7·45 per cent. Strictly, therefore, any reduction should fall first to the employers. The local authorities have offered to share the 0·3 per cent. reduction equally with the teachers, so reducing their contribution from 6·75 per cent. to 6·6 per cent. On 5th November the teachers rejected this offer.

    Offshore Oil Development

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action she proposes to take to implement those recommendations in the Report on Education and Training for Offshore Development which are addressed to her Department.

    The Government's general acceptance of this report was announced by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Department of Employment, on 5th November.—[Vol. 863, c. 57–8.]I accept the recommendation that, to meet the increased demand for petroleum engineers, provision of appropriate post-graduate and post-experience courses should be concentrated in one or two centres in the United Kingdom. I have sought the advice of the University Grants Committee and understand that it is discussing this recommendation in the first place with Imperial College, London, and the University of Aberdeen.Imperial College is offering an under-graduate course in petroleum engineering for the first time in this academic year, supplementing a long-standing post-graduate course in the same subject. Aberdeen University proposes to establish a new chair with special emphasis on petroleum geology and technology. The University Grants Committee accepts that it is important to involve the offshore industry in discussion of the content of courses designed to meet its needs at the centres.The University Grants Committee has accepted the report in principle and has agreed to send copies to universities drawing their attention to passages in the report relevant to them.I am also drawing the report to the attention of the research councils involved and am inviting them to take account of the needs of the industry when they allocate their resources for post graduate student awards.The further education service also has an interest in, and a potential contribution to make to, several of the report's recommendations, including the establishment of a centre in drilling technology and a study of education and training for rig and platform design and construction.

    1969–701970–711971–721972–731973–74
    Sold to other nations (other than as scrap)3*31
    Sold for scrap (including sale to foreign nations)192721161
    * Includes one sold for commercial use.
    In addition eight ships have been sold in the United Kingdom in this period for commercial use. There are no ships awaiting decision as to their future.

    Defence

    Officers

    asked the Minister of State for Defence what percentage of officers in each of the three Services has been commissioned from the ranks; and what percentage in each Service comes from Headmasters' Conference public schools and from other independent schools, respectively.

    I regret that this information is not available without disproportionate effort. The only figures that are available are that in the period from 1st January 1970 to 31st December 1972 the percentage of officers commissioned from the ranks was 27 per cent. of all commissions in the Royal Navy and Royal Marines, 32 per cent. in the Army and 28 per cent. in the Royal Air Force.

    Parachute Pay

    44.

    asked the Minister of State for Defence if he will state the level of parachute pay for all parachutists under an immediate liability for parachute service, and the percentage supplement of private soldier's pay which was represented by parachute pay, in World My Department will play its full part, with other Departments and the Petroleum Industry Training Board, in helping to implement these recommendations.

    Ships (Disposal)

    asked the Minister of State for Defence how many of Her Majesty's ships have been sold to other nations, sold for scrap, or were still lying tied up awaiting his decision as to their future in the years 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972 and to the nearest figure in 1973.

    The figures are as follows:War II, in 1964, in 1971 and in 1972; and if he will recommend an early review of the rate.

    The rate of parachute pay is assessed by the Armed Forces Pay Review Body, like all other rates of Service pay, additional pay and allowances. At the most recent regular review, which was in April 1972, the Review Body recommended an increase in the rate of parachute pay to 44 pence a day. The next regular review is due in April 1974.

    COMPARISON OF DAILY RATES (DECIMAL) OF BASIC PAY AND PARACHUTE PAY FOR A PRIVATE CLASS 1 BAND 1 (NON-TRADESMAN) COMMITTED TO LESS THAN 6 YEARS' SERVICE (SCALE "A").
    (1)(2)(3)(4)
    Basic Pay (a)Parachute Pay(3) as a percentage of (2)
    Year££
    19400·100·10(See note(b))
    Plus (See note (b))
    19642·230·3716·6
    19713·260·3711·3
    19723·540·4412·4

    Notes:

    ( a) The introduction of the military salary in 1970 completely changed the pay system, and no direct comparison can be made between basic rates of pay and allowances before and after that date. Briefly, pre-1970 rates were based on the assumption that service men received board and lodging free of charge, or allowances instead; and there was marriage allowance for married men. From 1970 onwards there has been an inclusive military salary, the same for married and single men, and charges are made for food and accommodation. The figures shown above for 1971 and 1972 are therefore fully comparable with each other: the figure for 1964 includes marriage

    allowance and ration allowance, so as to make possible some sort of comparison with 1971 and 1972.

    ( b) There was an earlier reform of the pay structure in 1947, as a result of which no direct comparison is possible between the figures shown above for 1940 and for 1964. In particular, while basic pay was very low, the additional allowances payable in 1940 were at different rates depending on circumstances

    Employment

    Coloured School Leavers (London)

    45.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what rôle he expects the Manpower Services Commission to play in improving the training and placing in employment of coloured school leavers in the Inner London area; and if he will make a statement.

    I expect that the commission itself will wish to consider this matter when it is set up.

    Hillingdon Industrial Rehabilitation Unit

    46.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the present waiting list and length of wait for admissions to the Hillingdon Industrial Rehabilitation Unit.

    On 22nd October there were 106 people on the waiting list; and the expected length of wait between application and entry varied between seven and eight weeks depending on the disablement.

    Company Directors (Salary Increases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many prosecutions of company directors there have been for breaches of salary restraints under phases 1 and 2 of the incomes policy.

    Birmingham

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give details of the latest employment situation in the Birmingham travel-to-work area, with particular reference to male and female unemployment, the number of school leavers still unemployed, the number of registered vac- ancies, and the number of those training and retraining for jobs; and how these figures compare with a month and a year previously.

    The general employment situation for the Birmingham area continues to improve. There has been a considerable reduction in those out of work over the past year. The employment situation for young people is most encouraging, for last month there were eight unfilled vacancies for each boy registered as unemployed and 12 vacancies for each girl. I am particularly glad that school leavers of immigrant origin are now finding more opportunities in training at craft level. Following are the detailed figures:

    Brimingham travel-to-work area
    Numbers unemployedMalesFemales
    October 1973 (provisional)13,0182,291
    September 197314,2202,770
    October 197222,1194,017
    Percentage rates of unemployment
    October 1973 (provisional)3·20·9
    September 19733·51·1
    October 19725·51·6
    School-leavers unemployed
    October 1973 (provisional)6235
    September 1973284121
    October 1972403210
    Unfilled vacancies
    October 1973 (provisional)8,6366,092
    September 19738,4905,575
    October 19722,2652,128
    The vacancy figures relate only to vacancies notified to employment offices and careers offices and do not measure the total unsatisfied demand for labour.Information is not readily available about the numbers of people training or retraining in the course of their employment, which is where the bulk of industrial training takes place.
    Numbers on Government training courses
    October 1973704
    September 1973649
    October 1972372

    Commerce, Banking And Insurance (Earnings Survey)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what reasons have been advanced for the proposed EEC regulation on a survey of the structure and distribution of earnings of employees in commerce, banking and insurance.

    As indicated in the preamble to the draft regulation, the Commission regards the proposed Community survey as the appropriate means of obtaining internationally comparable information needed by the Commission for discharging functions under Articles 2, 3, 117, 118, 119, 120 and 122 of the Treaty of Rome.

    Northern Ireland

    Tripartite Talks

    47.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he expects the tripartite talks between London, Belfast and Dublin to take place.

    The Government have indicated their willingness to issue invitations for a tripartite conference to take place within a month after the formation of a Northern Ireland Executive.

    Oil Supplies

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what plans he has made to ensure that the supply of oil is adequate for Northern Ireland industry; to what extent Northern Ireland industry depends on fuel oil; and if he will make a statement.

    Fuel oil is the predominant source of energy for Northern Ireland industry including the generation of gas and electricity. Attention is being given to Northern Ireland's needs in the planning referred to in the statements made by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on 24th October—[Vol. 861, c. 1254–6.] and 5th November—[Vol. 863, c. 611.]

    Wales

    Research Projects (Location)

    48.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what consideration is given by Government Departments and agencies to North Wales when locating research projects.

    The claims of all areas, including North Wales, are fully taken into account by the Government when the location of research projects is under consideration.

    Public Transport (Inquiry)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales when he expects Professor Graham Rees to complete his report on public transport in Wales.

    I understand that this report to the Welsh Council should be complete by the spring of 1975.

    Nursery Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many bilingual nursery schools are functioning in Wales at the present moment.

    In January 1973, the latest date for which information is available, there were 47 maintained nursery schools in Wales. These are not classified on the basis of the language of instruction.

    Trade And Industry

    National Coal Board

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry when he last had discussions with the National Coal Board.

    Computer Industry (Aid)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will compare the amount of Government aid granted by the Federal Republic of Germany, France and the United Kingdom to their respective computer industries over the past three years and projected aid already announced or scheduled; and what is the percentage share of national companies in their domestic markets for the last year for whch figures are available.

    Direct comparison of the United Kingdom, French and German support programmes is very difficult and any attempt to give a brief summary of the positiion would cause confusion. I would therefore refer my hon. Friend to the memoranda provided by my Department to the Select Committee on Science and Technology and published in the appendices to the minutes of evidence for the 1972–73 Session —ref. 97-vii—a copy of which I am sending to him. As far as projected United Kingdom aid is concerned, the Government have announced support of £25£8 million of the launching aid type for ICL's research and development programme in the period October 1973 to September 1976. The Government's contribution to other measures of support to the industry is currently anticipated to be in the region of £3 million per annum. The computer industry is also expected to benefit from the microelectronics support scheme under which expenditure of up to £10 million is anticipated up to 1978–79.Official figures showing the shares of domestic markets held by French and German national companies are not available on a comparable basis to those set out for the United Kingdom market in the memoranda referred to above, but ICL is generally accepted as the only European company which holds a share of its domestic market on a par with that of IBM.

    Oil Shipments

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what monitoring arrangements exist to ensure that shipments of oil believed to be en route to the United Kingdom are not diverted elsewhere or re-exported.

    Arrangements have been made with the companies for the provision of information on shipments to the United Kingdom and for monitoring the re-export of oil.

    Company Directors And Officers (Disqualification)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry how many directors and how many other officers of companies have been disqualified from acting in that capacity under Section 188 of the Companies Act 1948 during each of the years during which that section has been in operation; and what proportion of each such disqualification has been for one, two, three, four and live years respectively.

    The information available to the Department shows that 149 orders have so far been made under Sec- tion 188 of the Companies Act 1948. Of these, disqualification for two years was ordered in six cases, for three years in 20 cases, for four years in 16 cases and for five years in 107 cases. The yearly figures are as follows:—

    1948nil
    1949nil
    19501
    19514
    19522
    19534
    19545
    19553
    19561
    19578
    19582
    19595
    19604
    19616
    19625
    19635
    196413
    19657
    19666
    19676
    196810
    19696
    197013
    197114
    197213
    1973 (to date)6

    Japan

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will formulate plans designed to ensure that the restrictions which limit the importation of British motor cars into Japan are matched by corresponding restrictions on the importation of Japanese motor cars into the United Kingdom.

    There are no quantitative restrictions on the import of motor cars into Japan from this country. The import tariff of 11 per cent, on Japanese motor cars entering Britain is higher than the duty of 6·4 per cent. on British motor cars exported to Japan As the motor industry is well aware, I am always prepared to take up with the Japanese Government any official trade barriers which can be shown to be restricting sales of British motor cars in Japan.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry if he will formulate plans designed to ensure that the conditions governing British investment in Japan are liberalised to the same extent as those governing Japanese investment in the United Kingdom.

    As a result of the Japanese Government's latest capital liberalisation measures, which took effect on 1st May, foreign investment in almost all Japanese industries has been decontrolled and it is now possible, with a few exceptions, for Birtish companies to invest up to 100 per cent. in new or existing companies in Japan. We shall continue to urge upon the Japanese authorities the importance we attach to removing their remaining controls including those in the field of distribution.

    Offshore Oil And Gas

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry what progress he has made in preparing a scheme to improve the credit terms available for sales of British equipment and services for the development of United Kingdom offshore oil and gas resources.

    We recognise that United Kingdom suppliers can be at a disadvantage over credit terms in supplying this important new market. The problem arises because overseas suppliers to the United Kingdom Continental Shelf have access to loan finance at preferential interest rates from their national export credit institutions, but no such assistance is available to United Kingdom firms.Accordingly my Department is now ready to provide, under Section 8 of the Industry Act, interest relief grants at 3 per cent. per annum on credit obtained to finance contracts for the provision of British goods and services for the construction of fixed offshore installations used in the development of hydrocarbon resources on the United Kingdom Continental Shelf. To qualify, orders for goods and services must have been placed on or after 1st October 1973. These grants will help to create fair competition in this market. Details of the scheme are available in the Vote Office.

    Government Ministers

    Q6.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will now dismiss the Secretary of State for Education and Science.

    Q8.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will dismiss the Minister for Housing and Construction.

    Q13.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will dismiss the Minister for Housing and Construction.

    Q22.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will now consider appointing a Minister for population.

    Q24.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will establish a separate Department responsible for energy resources and appoint a Minister to it of Cabinet rank.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will consider appointing a Minister with Cabinet status whose responsibility would be to co-ordinate national energy policy.

    I do not intend to appoint any new Ministers, dismiss any existing Ministers or establish any new Department unless and until I make a statement to the contrary.

    Government Policies (Prime Minister's Speech)

    Q7.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech at the Colchester Oyster Feast on 26th October on Government policies.

    Trades Union Congress

    9.

    asked the Prime Minister when he next proposes to ask the TUC to meet him.

    I shall be glad to see the TUC whenever it wishes to discuss any matter of mutual interest, but I am in any case expecting to meet it in the near future to discuss the setting up of new machinery to deal with the problems of industries containing lower-paid workers.

    President Of Senegal

    10.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement concerning the recent official visit to the United Kingdom of the President of Senegal.

    President Senghor visited the United Kingdom from 25th to 28th of October to receive an honorary degree from Oxford University. While he was in London he was the guest of Her Majesty's Government, and he had talks with my right hon. Friend the Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary and myself which we found extremely valuable.

    Northern Ireland

    Q12.

    asked the Prime Minister when next he expects to visit Northern Ireland.

    I have at present no plans for a further visit to Northern Ireland.

    Q25.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the Kilbrandon Commission's proposals for increased representation for Northern Ireland in the House of Commons; and if he will proceed to implement this recommendation while the other proposals are being considered.

    The recommendation for Northern Ireland is linked to the commission's proposals for legislative devolution in Scotland and Wales. All these matters will have to be looked at together. I do not think it would be right to consider the recommendation for Northern Ireland separately.

    Economic Affairs (Minister's Speech)

    Q15.

    asked the Prime Minister if the Chancellor of the Exchequer's public speech on economic affairs at the Lord Mayor's Banquet on 18th October represents the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

    Cbi And Tuc (Talks)

    Q17.

    asked the Prime Minister what recent talks he has had with the TUC and CBI; and if he will make a statement.

    I met the CBI on 16th October and the TUC on 22nd October when the two bodies gave the Government their views on the proposals for stage 3.

    Bonn

    Q18.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will seek to pay an official visit to Bonn.

    I have at present no plans to do so. I had talks with Herr Brandt at Chequers on 6th and 7th October.

    Prime Minister(Television Programme)

    Q19.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a transcript of his recent television "talk-in".

    Q20.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of the transcript of his "phone-in" broadcast of Wednesday, 24th October 1973.

    Q21.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will place in the Library the transcript of his "phone-in" broadcast on Wednesday, 24th October 1973.

    I refer the hon. Gentlemen to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Wandsworth, Central (Mr. Thomas Cox) on 2nd November.—[Vol. 863, c. 11.]

    Industrial Relations Act

    Q23.

    asked the Prime Minister what discussions he has had with the CBI and the TUC concerning the future of the Industrial Relations Act.

    I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Chester-le-Street (Mr. Radice).

    Economic Affairs

    asked the Prime Minister if he will now assume responsibility for economic affairs.

    I have no plans to assume responsibilities at present allocated to any of my right hon. or hon. Friends.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Psittacosis

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the increase in psittacosis, he is now prepared to restrict the importation of psittacine birds.

    We have reviewed the risk to the health of humans and birds but do not consider it sufficient to justify the introduction of import controls.

    Feeding Stuffs (Prices)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware of the difficulties experienced by milk producers and producers of pig-meat in view of rising costs, especially of feeding stuffs; and what plans he has to assist them.

    I have nothing further to add to the reply given to the Question from the hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Alfred Morris) on 16th October.—Vol. 861, c. 94–6.]

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what were the prices paid for milk to producers in 1955 and 1973 respectively; what were the average retail prices in those years; and what was the average price of feeding stuffs to milk producers in those years.

    The following is the information requested:

    Year ended 31st MarchAverate net price for milk received by wholesale producers in United Kingdom p. per gallonAverage cost of dairy feed-stuffs in Great Britian £ Per tonAverage retail price of ordinary pasteurised milk p. per pint
    1955–5615·434·12·9
    1972–7320·250·55·3
    1973–74 (forecast)21·756·35·5
    (April to September only)

    Tenant Farmers

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce legislation to allow the near family of deceased agricultural tenants in England and Wales to have the right to be granted secrity of tenure by the Agricultural Lands Tribunal.

    I have no proposals for amending the legislation on security of tenure for tenant farmers.

    Markets (London)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will seek to establish an inquiry into the operation of the London commodity markets dealing in food.

    International Cocoa Organisation

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what financial assistance is being given to the International Cocoa Organisation to enable it to establish its headquarters in London.

    As the House was informed in June, Her Majesty's Government invited the International Cocoa Council to establish its headquarters in London. Moreover we offered to assist it financially to do so. The council accepted our invitation and since August, when the International Cocoa Organisation moved to London, it has been provided with rent-free temporary office accommodation. We are currently engaged in negotiations to acquire the lease of premises at 22 Berners Street. Upon assignment of this lease to my Department it is my intention to sub-lease the three upper floors of the building to the International Cocoa Organisation for which it will pay the current fixed rent until it is reviewed in 1977.The total cost of the temporary accommodation and the acquisition of the lease together with the associated legal expenses and the cost of altering the premises will be of the order of £150,000. My Department will be presenting a Supplementary Estimate in due course to cover this expenditure. Pending the approval of the estimate any expenditure will be met out of the Contingencies Fund.

    Civil Service

    Civil Servants

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he can yet say what was the total number of civil servants in post on 1st October 1973.

    Yes, about 695,100. This compares with 693,341 on 1st July 1973 and 701,790 on 1st July 1970. The detailed figures for 1st October 1973 with the usual analysis will be available in a week or so.

    Environment

    Palace Of Westminster And Government Offices (Heating)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is aware that since the Government's announcement on measures to conserve fuel the heating appliances in the Palace of Westminster and the ancillary buildings were excessively heated during warm weather and what action he has taken or intends taking to reduce the use of fuel in these and other Government offices in Westminster and other areas.

    At the request of Members the temperature throughout the Palace of Westminster and its ancillary buildings is maintained at 20° C throughout the year though it may take a little time to adjust when outside temperatures fluctuate. The Property Services Agency has already taken measures which should save 10,000 tons of fuel in the Government estate this year and is continuing to seek economies in accordance with the recent statement by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry.—[Vol. 861, c. 1254–651.]

    Development Control (Review)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will request Mr. George Dobry, QC, to include in his current review of development control the proposals put forward by the City of London Solicitor to the Town and Country Planning Association's summer school, a copy of which has been sent to him, and, in particular, that relating to lay inquiry inspectors.

    I have not yet received a copy of these proposals. Mr. Dobry has, of course, seen Press reports of the Royal Town and Country Planning Institute's summer school and will give full consideration to Sir Desmond Heap's proposals when he has received them.

    has invited the views of organisations and of the public on matters relevant to his terms of reference which are:

    (i) To consider whether the development control system under the Town and Country Planning Acts adequately meets current needs to advise on the lines along which it might be improved, bearing in mind the forthcoming redistribution of planning functions between local authorities and the new system of structure and local plans.
    (ii) To review the arrangements for appeals to the Secretary of State under the Planning Acts including the rights of appeal and the handling of appeals in the Department of the Environment, and to make recommendations.
    It will be helpful if any persons with views to put forward will write to the Development Control Review, Room P2/123, Department of the Environment, 2 Marsham Street, London, SW1P 3EB not later than 23rd November.

    Odours (Working Party Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he will publish the second part of the report of the working party on odours.

    I expect to receive the second part of the report towards the end of 1974. The working party's finding will be incorporated in a handbook of technological advice for public health departments and persons engaged in trades giving rise to odours.

    Caravan Sites

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps local authorities are required to take to ensure proper treatment of caravan dwellers and to require standards on sites licensed by the authority; and if he will consider issuing a desired code.

    Local authorities can attach conditions to the licences they issue for caravan sites. In deciding what conditions to attach they must have regard to any model standards specified by the Secretary of State. Model standards were specified in 1960.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to ensure that all licensed caravan sites for permanent residence should be owned by local authorities.

    No. Local authorities already have powers under the Caravan Sites and Control of Development Act 1960 to provide such caravan sites and, where existing sites are not being run satisfactorily, to take them over in the interests of the caravan users.

    Housing (Local Authority Mortgages)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will state for each year from 1969 to 1972, and to the latest convenient date in 1973, what were the amounts devoted by local authorities in England and Wales for loans for home ownership, and the numbers of mortgages granted.

    The information requested is as follows:

    LOANS TO PRIVATE PERSONS FOR HOUSE PURCHASE ENGLAND AND WALES
    YearNumber of LoansAmount Lent
    £ thousands
    196919,09642,156
    197044,103118,343
    197147,174126,682
    197245,202132,927
    1973 (First 3 quarters)43,477211,445

    A617, Mansfield

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT accidents and injuries that have taken place on the A617 Chesterfield Road north and south up to the Mansfield borough boundary from 7th March 1963 to the latest available date.

    Statistics of road accidents and casualties in local areas are a matter for the local authorities concerned.

    Pedestrian Crossings

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will review the requirements which have to be met before a pedestrian road crossing is sanctioned.

    Municipal Buildings

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the number of town halls and similar municipal buildings which are under construction or which have been approved in principle; and what is the cost in each instance, following the reconstruction of local government in England and Wales.

    This information is not available as, since 1st April 1971, my right hon. and learned Friend does not approve individual schemes for municipal offices.

    Local Government Staff

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the estimated cost to each new local authority of the staff changes, retirals, new appointments, additional staff, etc., following the recent reconstruction of local government in England and Wales.

    Motor Vehicles (Centralised Licensing)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when the licensing and registration of vehicles will be centralised; and if he will make a statement.

    The first vehicle work to be centralised will be the first licensing and registration of new vehicles with effect from 1st April 1974. The starting date has had to be deferred by three months to ensure the completion of preparations for centralisation. I am asking local authorities for their continued cooperation in working to the new timetable. Arrangements will be made to inform vehicle owners and others in good time before they are affected.

    Home Department

    Foreign Students

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons in Great Britain on student visas have extended their stay for more than five years and then claimed United Kingdom citizenship.

    Diplomatic Corps Cars (Parking Offences)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the police are authorised to move CD cars parked in contravention of waiting regulations; and, if so, how many such cars were removed to police compounds in 1972 in the Metropolitan Police area.

    The police are empowered to remove any vehicle parked in contravention of a statutory prohibition or restriction. The information requested in the second part of the Question is not readily available.

    Non-Custodial Penalties

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made during 1973 with the introduction of non-custodial penalties, both those involving community service and involving attendance at day-training centres, and with the provision of probation and bail hostels.

    Experiments with community service by offenders are in operation in six probation and after-care areas and with day training centres in three areas. Another experimental day training centre will open later this month.Six probation and after-care committees have agreed to undertake further experiments with bail hostels for men. One hostel is expected to open before the end of the year and premises have been acquired for a second. A limited experiment began in London with places in an after-care hostel for women on bail.A further 28 probation and after-care committees have been invited to provide probation hostels for adult offenders. One hostel has been opened and two more are expected to come into service before the end of the year.

    Metropolitan Police

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made in the negotiations with the Police Federation on the question of a special payment for Metropolitan Police officers.

    Police pay is a matter in the first instance for the Police Council which, I am sure, will consider the question of police pay differentials for London in the light of the Price and Pay Code for stage 3 of the Government's counter-inflation policy.

    Police (Manpower)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the numerical increase in the size of the police force in Great Britain since June 1970; and what was the increase during the preceding three years.

    Indictable Offences

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the 1972 figures for indictable offences known to the police in England and Wales in the following categories: crimes of violence against the person, sexual offences, and other offences; what percentage change over the 1971 figure the total figure represents; and what was the 1972 percentage clear-up rate.

    The following is the information:

    Offences recorded as known to the police in England and Wales 1972
    Violence against the person52,432
    Robbery and assault with intent to rob8,926
    Sexual offences23,505
    All other offences1,277,099
    Total1,361,962
    The number of offences recorded as known to the police in England and Wales in 1972 was 3·5 per cent. greater than in 1971, after adjustment of the 1971 figure to allow for changes in legislation and recording practice. The number of offences cleared up in 1972 expressed as a percentage of those recorded as known was 41·1 per cent.

    Royal Commission On The Constitution

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will detail the principal items in the expenditure of £483,993 incurred by the Royal Commission on the Constitution.

    The principal items in the estimated gross total expenditure incurred by the Royal Commission on the Constitution are:

    £
    Salaries and Wages217,061
    General Administrative Costs36,195
    Accommodation and Services174,980
    Publications49,759
    Stationery and Office Equipment5,998
    Total483,993

    National Finance

    Eurobonds

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps, including seeking international collaboration, to end the anonymity of Eurobond buyers by obtaining agreement on abolishing the system of unregistered bearer certificates in respect of Eurobonds.

    Value Added Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give an undertaking not to impose value added tax on books.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many value added tax inspectors were originally planned to represent the full establishment; and what is the size of the shortfall.

    There are no "inspectors" as such. Planning was on the basis that personal calls to check value added tax returns would be included in the duties of approximately 3,500 to 4,000 staff by 1st April 1974. About 3,400 are at present in post. The deployment of value added tax staff is continuously under review in the light of experience of the tax.

    Commodity Prices

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the average percentage increase in the price of imported commodity goods into Great Britain over the last year; and what he estimates, on the basis of international comparisons with France, Germany and other EEC and non-EEC countries, would have been the increase if, respectively, Great Britain had had a fixed exchange rate or stayed within the collective European float.

    On the basis of United Kingdom import unit value index numbers, published monthly in Trade and Industry, the average percentage increases in prices of imported commodity goods were as follows:

    Percentage increase* (based on period July 1972 to August 1973 expressed at an annual rate)
    Food, beverages and tobacco38 per cent.
    Basic materials37 per cent.
    Fuels35 per cent.
    Total "non-manufactured" goods37 per cent.
    * Detailed information for August 1972 was not published.
    The second part of the Question refers to hypothetical situations, the effects of which cannot be quantified.

    Income Tax Remission

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what amount of Schedule D and E income tax was remitted in the tax years 1970–71, 1971–72, 1972-–73 and to date in 1973–74; and if he will list separately the principal reasons for remission under Schedules D and E.

    The table below gives figures of tax remitted or written off as irrecoverable for accounting years ended on the last Friday in October. Later figures are not available, and records are not kept on a tax year basis. The amounts of Schedule A and B included cannot be separated out but they are not likely to be significant. Interest on unpaid tax and PAYE tax deducted by employers

    SCHEDULE E REMISSIONS
    £ thousand
    A/C 70A/C 71A/C 72
    Remissions:
    Hardship86160368
    Equity2329
    Miscellaneous: amounts recoverable not sufficient to justify costs of proceedings, etc.101116127
    Amounts irrecoverable:
    Insolvency (including composition)183155229
    Miscellaneous: taxpayer gone abroad or untraceable, etc.169195232
    Total562628965
    SCHEDULE A, B AND D REMISSIONS
    £ thousand
    A/C 70A/C 71A/C 72
    Remissions:
    Hardship41329
    Equity482553815
    Miscellaneous: amounts recoverable not sufficient to justify costs of proceedings, etc.1,9251,8193,558
    Amounts irrecoverable:
    Insolvency (including composition)5618772,680
    Miscellaneous: taxpayer gone abroad or untraceable, etc.4,0485,4147,306
    Total7,0208,67614,388

    Property Ownership

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of households own, respectively, their own home, other real estate, a farm, business or professional practice, or a car; what percentage own any liquid assets, corporate stock, and life assurance; and what are the comparable figures, according to available international information, for the United States of America, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and Sweden.

    In Great Britain, in 1972, 47 per cent. of private households were in owner-occupied homes and 55 per cent. had regular use of one or more cars. There is no information on the percentage of households owning real estate, a farm, business, professional practice, liquid assets, corporate stock or life assurance.However the following information is available which bears on some of these points:(

    a) In Great Britain in 1971, 0·9 per cent. of households were resident in owner-occupied agricultural holdings.

    ( b) In the tax year 1969–70, 9·4 per cent. of all tax units in the United

    but not paid over are excluded from the table.

    Kingdom received dividends or interest (including interest on bonds) which were taxed at source.

    ( c) In 1972, 85 per cent. of United Kingdom households incurred expenditure on life assurance and pension fund contributions.

    International comparisons are available only in respect of owner-occupier households. These are given below:

    PERCENTAGE OF HOUSEHOLDS WHO ARE OWNER OCCUPIERS

    Country

    Year

    Percentage

    U.S.A.197062·9
    Sweden196535·5
    Japan197058·2
    Italy196145·8
    Germany (Federal Republic)196834·3
    France196843·3

    Comparisons should be made with caution due to differences in timing, census or survey definitions and coverage.

    Uncollected Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the amount of tax due to the Exchequer which currently remains uncollected; and what are the comparable figures for each of the last five years.

    Personal Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the value in terms of 1946 prices of, respectively, personal property incomes, employment incomes and State benefits at 1946, 1952, 1958, 1964 and 1970; what was the percentage increase in real terms at 1946 prices in each category during each six-year interval; and what was the value of the increase per recipient in each of these categories during each of these periods at 1946 prices.

    Estimates revalued at 1946 prices are not available.Estimates in respect of 1946 are as follows:

    £ million
    Personal sector receipts of rent, dividends and net interest1,284
    National insurance benefits and other current grants paid by the central government608
    Income from employment5,758
    Source: Central Statistical Office data bank.

    Life Assurance (Tax Relief)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the total value of tax reliefs on life assurance contributions for each year since 1960; and, for each of these years, what was its average value to persons taking out such insurance with incomes, respectively, of less than £1,000, £1,000-£2,000, £2,000-£5,000, £5,000-£10,000, and over £10,000 per year.

    Investment Surcharge

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the annual yield in the first year of operation of the 15 per cent. surcharge on investment incomes of over £2,000 a year; how much of this was paid by those with incomes of, respectively, less than £1,000, £1,000-£2,000, £2,000-£5,000, £5,000-£10.000, and over £10,000 per year; what would the yield have been if the 15 per cent. surcharge applied to investment incomes over £1,000 per year; and what would have been the breakdown by these income levels of payment of this extra surcharge.

    No investment income surcharge has yet become payable, and the bulk of the liability for 1973–74 will fall due in 1974–75 after the amounts of investment incomes have been determined. The information requested is therefore not available.

    Labour Costs (Manufacturing)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the percentage change over the previous year in wage and salary costs per unit of output in manufacturing for each year since 1960 in the United Kingdom, United States of America, France, West Germany, Italy Netherlands, Sweden and Japan for each year since 1960.

    Sterling Balances

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will explain the present arrangements for guaranteeing official sterling balances.

    The Sterling Agreements expired on 24th September.My right hon. Friend sent a message on 6th September to signatories of the Sterling Agreements undertaking to continue to guarantee certain official sterling reserves for a further period until 31st March 1974. In broad terms, the guarantee will be available to holders who maintain in their reserves the minimum sterling proportions set for the purposes of their Sterling Agreements or who hold amounts obtained by applying those minimum sterling proportions to actual reserve holdings on 24th September. An upper limit to the amounts covered by the guarantee is set by reference to the level of holdings on 24th September.The guarantee is given at a rate of £1 equals $2·4213, which is the average of the exchange rate at noon on the three working days up to and including 6th September. The guarantee will be implemented if the average of daily rates for sterling in terms of U.S. dollars throughout the six-month period is below the guarantee rate. Any settlement will be in sterling and the amount will he calculated on the basis of the difference between the guarantee rate and the average rate.

    Posts And Telecommunications

    Radio And Television Programmes (Complaints)

    asked the Minister of Posts and Telecommunications if he will make a statement on his policy towards the most appropriate methods for the consideration by the broadcasting authorities of complaints about radio and television programmes.

    Scotland

    Schools (Class Size)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many children in Scotland were being taught in classes of over 30 in each of the years between 1945 and 1972.

    This information is available only from January 1967, as follows:

    NUMBERS OF PUPILS IN CLASSES OF OVER 30 IN EDUCATION AUTHORITY AND GRANT-AIDED SCHOOLS
    JanuaryPrimarySecondary
    1967453,09979,893
    1968457,36987,399
    1969464,041101,721
    1970466,222104,740
    1971453,556110,446
    1972438,796112,693

    Note: In primary schools, the count is of pupils in registered classes; in secondary schools, the count is of pupils in classes held in the third period of the census day.

    Police

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many policemen and policewomen left the force in each of the years between 1969 and 1972.

    The number of officers who voluntarily resigned from Scottish police forces in each of the years 1969 to 1972 inclusive was as set out in the table below.

    YearPolicemenPolicewomen
    196939665
    197035170
    197122049
    197223260

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many policemen and policewomen retired in each of the years between 1969 and 1972.

    The number of officers who retired from Scottish police forces in each of the years 1969 to 1972 inclusive was as set out in the table below.

    YearPolicemenPolicewomen
    19691931
    1970682
    19711591
    19721211

    Industrial Dereliction

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing central Government expenditure and identifiable local authority expenditure, in each of the past 20 years, devoted to the clearance of industrial dereliction.

    The following table shows expenditure on schemes carried out by local authorities in Scotland which were completed in each calendar year since 1960 and the amounts of Government grant paid towards the net cost of rehabilitation schemes in each financial year since 1960.

    YearLocal authority expenditure (including Government grant) £Financial YearGovernment grant £
    19601960–6125,841
    196137,0001961–625,822
    19625,0001962–6328,884
    196373,0001963–6441,217
    1964138,0001964–65348,364
    1965310,0001965–66376,818
    1966417,0001966–67432,316
    1967853,0001967–68358,090
    1968228,0001968–69301,887
    1969358,0001969–70514,867
    1970793,0001970–71769,150
    19711,404,0001971–72498,720
    1972863,0001972–73600,995
    1973 (to end September288,0001973–74 (to end Sept.)239,916
    The figures are not directly comparable year by year, as grant payments do not keep in step with expenditure. Information for earlier years is not available.

    Abortions

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the mortality rate attributed to legal abortion in each of the years 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971 and 1972.

    Nil, because no deaths attributed to legal abortion were registered in Scotland in the years 1968 to 1972 inclusive. From information in death certificates and notifications under the Abortion Act 1967, however, it is known that legal abortion was associated with a few deaths, numbering one in 1969, three in 1971, and two in 1972, although it was not the underlying cause to which the deaths were assigned in the death certificates.

    Teacher Supply

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will permit individual schools to be designated for teacher-shortage payments.

    The selection of schools for designation is a matter for education authorities. Each authority must, however, keep within the quota of posts allocated to it under the scheme approved by the Scottish Teachers Salaries Committee.

    School Leaving Age

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will seek to amend present satutory provisions to enable persons leaving school to do so on their sixteenth birthdays rather than being retained until the subsequent official leaving date.

    I do not propose to do this at the present time. There are arguments for and against the idea and I have decided that the matter should be reviewed in a year or so in the light of experience of the recent raising of the school leaving age.

    Hawick (Schools)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will sanction the building of a second high school—or at least four-year school—to serve the needs of Hawick and district.

    Roxburgh Education Authority has sought my views on proposed changes in the provision of secondary education that would involve alternative forms of new building in Hawick. I am considering these proposals, one of which was received only at the end of last week. I shall let the hon. Member know the outcome.

    Mentally Handicapped Patients (Staff Training)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received from the Scottish Occupational Instructors Association on the Melville Report on the training of staff for centres for the mentally handicapped; what reply he has sent; if he has completed his consideration of the report; and if he will make a statement.

    The association has criticised some of the recommendations, particularly the proposal that instructors in junior occupational centres who are unable to obtain exceptional registration as qualified teachers should become "assistants to teacher". Its representations have been acknowledged and are being carefully considered, but I cannot comment on them until consultations on the report have been completed.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Middle East

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) why Her Majesty's Government supplied arms to the Middle East before the recent Arab-Israeli war;(2) what assessment he has made of the contribution of United Kingdom arms sales to peacekeeping in the Middle East.

    It has been the policy of successive Governments to encourage the export of defence equipment to friendly countries taking into account in each case the political, strategic and security considerations involved for the United Kingdom. I am satisfied that British defence equipment supplied to the Middle East has not encouraged any State to resort to hostilities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why Her Majesty's Government did not issue any condemnation of the aggression in the recent Middle East war.

    Our aim has been to work for a peaceful settlement of the Middle East problem, not to take sides.

    General Agreement On Tariffs And Trade

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what discussions have been held by EEC Foreign Ministers in connection with the GATT negotiation.

    The Council of Ministers approved the Community's overall approach to the GATT multilateral trade negotiations at its meeting on 25th-26th June. Copies of the Commission memorandum setting out this overall approach were made available in the Library and the Vote Office.There was another Council meeting on the subject in Tokyo on 11th September on the eve of the opening of the GATT negotiations there.

    European Union

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what are Her Majesty's Government's criteria for deciding whether an EEC proposal for economic, monetary or political union is within the scope of Article 235 of the Treaty of Rome, or requires action under Article 236.

    The attitude of Her Majesty's Government would depend on an assessment of the relationship which existed between the content of the proposal in question and the relevant provisions of the EEC Treaty.

    United Nations Peacekeeping Force

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the United Nations Special Committee on Peacekeeping has come to any conclusions as a result of its study of United Nations document A/3943 suggesting guidelines for a permanent United Nations peacekeeping force.

    In the study in question, the then United Nations Secretary-General concluded inter alia that

    "the maintenance of a nucleus United Nations force of the type generally envisaged would be without great practical value and certainly would not warrant the substantial sacrifices involved" (paragraph 153).
    Instead, the study favoured agreement on broad guiding principles for future peacekeeping operations. The United Nations Special Committee on Peacekeeping has debated these principles for nine years, but has failed to reach agreement—principally over the questions of command, control and finance. Her Majesty's Government submitted a Memorandum on Decision-taking in Peacekeeping Operations on 6th September (Document A/9144) as their most recent contribution to the continuing debate.

    Holland (Oil Supplies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement on the meeting of the Council of Ministers of the EEC, held on 5th November, with particular reference to the Government's policy concerning the boycott of oil supplies to Holland by the Arab oil-producing countries.

    The Council of Ministers of the EEC began its meeting late on 5th November. It is still continuing and it would be premature to make any statement about it.

    Crown Agents (Dependent Territories' Funds)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will state on behalf of British dependent territories the total of their funds deposited with the Crown Agents for investment.

    I have nothing to add to the answer to a similar question given by my right hon. Friend the Minister for Overseas Development on 24th October.—[Vol. 861, c. 501.]

    Social Services

    Pension Postponement

    7.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to increase the additions to the pension which can be earned by postponing retirement beyond the minimum age.

    The rates of increment were considered as part of this year's annual review of benefits but we decided to concentrate all available resources on the maximum increase in the pension itself.

    Emergency Assistance

    8.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will introduce legislation in the present Session to extend, in certain cases, a local authority's power to give assistance in cash in an emergency to individuals in welfare need.

    The extension of a local authority's powers to provide assistance in cash presents certain difficulties, and I can offer no prospect of legislation in the present Session. Responsibility for providing emergency assistance is accepted by the Supplementary Benefits Commission, which has arranged a service to meet emergencies arising outside the normal working hours.

    Occupational Deafness

    12.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what response he has received to the recommendations of the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council on occupational deafness.

    The council's report was published on 31st October and it is as yet too early to judge the response to its recommendations, which have been accepted by the Government. Preparatory work to implement them has begun but it is not possible at this stage to say when they can be put into operation.

    Greenwich Hospital (Health Centre)

    14.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects work to begin on the proposed health centre of the psychiatric unit of the Greenwich District Hospital; and what is the planned date of completion.

    My right hon. Friend hopes to complete by about the turn of the year a review of health centre projects which local authorities have indicated could be started during 1974–75 if sufficient funds were available. I cannot anticipate now whether this scheme will he selected.

    District Health Councils

    23.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, four district health councils having been established for the area of the London boroughs of Lambeth, Lewisham, and Southwark, based on the four hospitals instead of the three boroughs, what percentage of its patients each of the four hospitals will draw from the district in which it is situated.

    The estimated proportions are:—St. Thomas Hospital, 30 per cent.; King's College Hospital, 54 per cent.; Guy's Hospital, 39 per cent.; Lewisham Hospital, 65 per cent.

    Abortion

    24.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to receive the Lane Committee's report on the Abortion Act.

    Christmas Bonus

    25.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will propose making the £10 Christmas bonus available to the disabled.

    The special payment of £10 will be made to disabled persons who are over pensionable age and are in receipt of a retirement pension or other qualifying benefit. As I explained to the House during the Committee stage of the Pensioners' Payments and National Insurance Bill on 19th October, the dividing line of pensionable age is the only one which is both equitable and practicable.

    41.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will reconsider his decision that the reaching of a given birthday is the only practicable and equitable criterion for eligibility for the £10 Christmas bonus.

    No. For reasons which I explained to the House during the Committee stage of the Pensioners' Payments and National Insurance Bill on 19th October, I am not able to do as my hon. Friend asks.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the additional cost of including retirement pensioners, whose wives are less than 60 years of age, as eligible for a £10 Christmas bonus.

    Social Services Departments

    26.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the efficiency and public standing of social service departments throughout the United Kingdom.

    I am able, of course, to speak only in relation to England. The experience of the last three years has, in my view, amply justified the decision of the Government to carry out the Seebohm reorganisation and to establish social services departments. The way in which the new departments have responded to the challenges of reorganisation, of recent legislation and of mounting evidence of need coupled with the increase in training available offer great encouragement for their future after the reorganisation of local government.

    Overseas Pensioners

    27.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to ensure that retirement pensioners living abroad receive increases in pensions where reciprocal agreements are not in force.

    No. National insurance is a contributory scheme of social security designed primarily for people living in this country, and benefit levels are related to conditions here. We think the best way to proceed is by means of reciprocal agreements with other countries and our aim is to extend these as widely as possible.

    National Health Service Area Administrations

    28.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy regarding discussions with delegations of local authorities concerning the proposed National Health Service area administrations.

    On this as on other matters I consider on their merits requests to receive deputations.

    Pensions

    29.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the value, in percentage terms, of the single old-age retirement pension as related to average earnings.

    The latest available estimate of the average gross earnings of male manual workers is that for July 1973. The present single rate of retirement pension represents 19.7 per cent. of those estimated earnings.

    Supplementary Benefit

    30.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will instruct the Supplementary Benefits Commission, where an application is made for supplementary benefits, to use its existing powers under the Social Security Act to take into account the applicant's capital assets, including major items of consumer durable goods; and whether he will now introduce legislation empowering the Supplementary Benefits Commission also to take into account the applicant's owner-occupied house.

    No. I think that the commission is right to ignore personal possessions, including consumer durables, and I should not wish to disturb the long-standing practice of ignoring the value of an owner-occupied house.

    Health Centres

    31.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to authorise the building of the health centre in Long Eaton, work on which was due to start last July.

    My right hon. Friend hopes to complete by about the turn of the year a review of health centre projects which local authorities have indicated could be started during 1974–75 if sufficient funds were available. I cannot anticipate now whether this scheme will be selected.

    39.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what requests he has had for loan sanction for health centres in the Stockport area for the years 1970, 1971, 1972 and 1973; and how many of these requests have been refused.

    Between 1970 and 1972 one application was received; it was approved. No application has been received during 1973 but the Stockport County Borough Council has been informed that, for the reasons set out in my reply to the hon. Member's letter of 3rd October, approval for building to start during 1973–74 cannot be given to the proposed health centres at Heaton Norris and Shaw Heath.

    Disablement Income

    32.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has any plans for providing a disablement income; and, if so, what criteria he intends to use.

    The many difficult questions raised by the concept of a "disablement income" are within the scope of the review referred to in Section 36 of the Social Security Act 1973.

    Beneficiaries (Non-Pensioners)

    33.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many persons who are dependent upon national insurance benefits or social security support are below pensionable age.

    It is estimated that there are about 4·7 million people under pension age—including children—who are wholly or partly dependent on national insurance benefits or on supplementary benefit.

    Smoking

    34.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will set up an inquiry into the effect of tobacco smoke on non-smokers in the home, at work, on public transport, and in other places.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what experiments he is conducting into the relationship between carbon monoxide inhalation from tobacco smoke and coronary heart disease.

    I am considering the latest evidence on the health hazards from smoking of carbon monoxide and I shall seek the advice of the Hunter Committee on this matter.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will issue a league table for the new smoking materials; and if he will publish figures showing the quantities of tar distillate, the carbon monoxide and the nicotine content of the various types of substitute tobacco which have been submitted to the Hunter Committee for approval.

    It is not possible to do so at this moment. Information provided by manufacturers to the Hunter Committee cannot be published without the agreement of the manufacturers and the committee. I am seeking the advice of the Hunter Committee about what information on cigarettes containing a tobacco substitute should on health grounds be made available to the public.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the carcinogenicity of the tar distillate of the new smoking matrials; and if he will publish the details of the experiments on which these figures are based.

    Information on carcinogenicity tests for a new smoking material has been submitted to the Hunter Committee but at this stage the information must be confidential to the committee and myself.

    Hospital Admissions (Liverpool)

    35.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he is taking to reduce the length of time of patients waiting to enter hospitals in the Liverpool area for various operations; if he will indicate the hospitals where the worst delays take place; and what specific action is being taken with regard to each hospital.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Waddington) on 6th July 1973—[Vol. 859, c. 233–41.]—with regard to the action my Department is taking to reduce waiting lists for in-patient treatment in hospitals throughout the country. In the Liverpool area I understand that the worst delays are experienced amongst patients awaiting admission to the Stanley and Walton hospitals in the gynaecology, orthopaedic and ear, nose and throat specialties. The commissioning of the new Fazakerley District General Hospital in mid-1974 is expected to relieve the situation at these hospitals. My attention has also been drawn to delays in admission to the paediatric cardiology unit at the Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital. The board of governors is considering whether additional resources can be made available for this unit.

    Single Women With Dependants

    36.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is aware of the plight of women who find themselves without means of support or prospect of pension after many years of caring for a sick relative; and whether he will consider granting an allowance to such women and enabling them to qualify for a retirement pension.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Hackney, Central (Mr. Clinton Davis) on 5th November.

    Staff Recruitment

    37.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will issue instructions to all offices of his Department to cease including in advertisements for job vacancies the question of the age of the applicant; and if he will make a statement.

    No, Sir. Recruitment into most Civil Service grades is restricted to candidates under the age of 60. Further restrictions are sometimes necessary because of the nature of the job or the need to maintain a balanced age structure.

    Disabled Persons (Telephones)

    38.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many persons defined in the terms of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act as qualified to receive its benefits have been granted telephones in the county borough of Hartlepool.

    I understand that the local authority has so far paid installation fees. rental costs or both in 50 cases under either the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act or Section 45 of the Health Services and Public Health Act 1968.

    Invalid Vehicles

    40.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he now expects to publish the report of Lady Sharp's inquiry into the vehicle service for disabled people.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Arundel and Shoreham (Mr. Luce) on 5th November.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish the full text of the report together with details of the tests carried out by the Motor Industries Research Association, following on the crash test of a Model 70 invalid tricycle at Nuneaton in August; and if he will make the films of the tests available to interested parties.

    No. Whilst this action might help to reassure any users of this machine misled into believing it to be intrinsically hazardous, it would not accord with established practice. My right hon. Friend must be relied upon to ensure that all relevant data are evaluated by his experts and to take any action he finds necessary.

    Pay

    42. Mr.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is aware that on 31st October 1973 the average national wage for men was £40 per week and £23 per week for women; and whether he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a detailed list giving the number and grades of all types of hospital workers and other types of employees coming within his ministerial responsibilities who fall below these amounts of weekly pay, stating what rates these employees were receiving on this date.

    The figures quoted by the hon. Member refer to average earnings: information about the earnings of individual grades of National Health Service employees is not held centrally and it would not be possible to obtain it without undue cost.

    Investigators

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many officers are employed by his Department full-time or part-time to observe the domestic activities in the homes of single women, divorcees and widows who are recipients of allowances and benefits in the Northern Region and in Hartlepool, respectively.

    There are at present 29 special investigators employed in the Northern Region to deal with cases of suspected fraud; they visit Hartlepool as cases arise. They spend about half their time in the investigation of cases of suspected cohabitation or fictitious desertion, which may involve observation of premises but not of the domestic activities of claimants in their homes.

    Cohabitation Rules

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many women who are deemed to be co-habiting have had their allowances stopped by his Department while investigations are being made; and how many, following these investigations, have been restored.

    Psychiatric Patients

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the implementation of his programme for transferring long-stay patients from psychiatric hospitals to community care; and if he will make a statement about the level of funds available to local authorities to implement this policy.

    The Government's policies are directed towards the development of a comprehensive service for the mentally ill, including a full range of general hospital and local authority social services, in which the needs of each mentally ill person can be met in the way most suitable to him.The development of the full range of social services needed involves a substantial programme of expansion which must necessarily be spread over several years. 168 residential schemes for the mentally ill, with 2,562 places, and 81 day-care schemes, with 3,234 places, have been included in the lists of schemes in their current three-year capital programmes for which local authorities have been notified that I would hope to give loan approval. Implementation of these schemes would almost double the existing levels of local authority provision. I attach a high priority to local authorities continuing to develop and expand their programmes as resources permit.The value of loan approvals for capital schemes for the mentally ill has risen in each of the last three years and I envisage that within the total resources available for the local authority social services there will be further increases in the future.

    Benefits (Fraud)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the size of (a) supplementary benefit, and (b) national insurance abuse for each year since 1948; and the number of resulting prosecutions for each benefit for each of these years.

    Supplementary benefit: the figures from the first full year of this benefit (1967) are:

    YearFraudulent Claims DetectedProsecutions
    19677,500*2,219
    196810,550*3,763
    196912,400*4,398
    197012,8763,904
    197112,8064,767
    197214,4265,891
    * Estimated.
    National insurance benefits including FAM: complete figures are available only from 1960:

    YearFraudulent Claims DetectedProsecutions
    196012,3081,312
    196110,7411,287
    196213,8091,544
    196315,9471,713
    196416,5991,661
    196514,5301,332
    196615,1151,343
    196719,9081,264
    196819,5881,745
    196919,4921,924
    197020,5332,217
    197122,4392,910
    197223,9363,373
    All the figures above concern wrongful claims to benefits. They do not include frauds based on postal drafts or girocheques.

    Mentally Handicapped Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the local authorities which have been refused loan sanction for community care projects for both the mentally ill and mentally handicapped for the year 1973–74.

    Authorities which submitted larger proposals than it was possible to approve for 1973–74 were:

    County Councils:
    Bedfordshire, Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire and Isle of Ely, Cheshire, Cumberland, Devon, Dorset, Essex, Gloucestershire, Hampshire, Herefordshire, Hertfordshire, Hunts and Peterborough, Isle of Wight, Kent, Lancashire, Leicestershire, Lincs. (Holland), Lincs. (Lindsey), Norfolk, Northamptonshire, Northumberland, Oxfordshire, Somerset, Staffordshire, East Suffolk, East Sussex, Warwickshire, Westmorland, Worcestershire, Yorkshire East Riding, Yorkshire West Riding, Yorkshire North Riding,
    County Boroughs:
    Birkenhead, Birmingham, Blackburn, Blackpool, Bolton, Bournemouth, Bristol, Burnley, Burton on Trent, Canterbury, Chester, Darlington, Derby, Dudley, Great Yarmouth, Halifax, Kingston-upon-Hull, Liverpool, Manchester, Nottingham, Plymouth, Ports-mouth. Preston, Reading, Rochdale, Rotherham, Southampton, Stockport, Stoke-on-Trent, Teesside, Torbay, Tynemouth, Wallasey, Walsall, Warley, Wolverhampton, Worcester.
    London Boroughs:
    Barnet, Brent, Camden, Croydon, Enfield, Greenwich, Islington, Lambeth, Merton.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will take immediate steps to consult with Portsmouth and other similar cities on the need and way to provide adequate care and support facilities for the mentally ill and handicapped, with particular reference to his expressed objective of reducing the number of patients in hospitalised care; and whether he will make a statement.

    Most of the local authorities, including Portsmouth, which at present have no residential accommodation for the mentally ill have included such schemes in their current three-year programme. Schemes for day care of the mentally ill are however in some cases disappointingly few. My Department will shortly be issuing a circular giving further guidance about the development of local authority services for the mentally ill and emphasising the importance of adequate levels of residential and day care provision, guidelines for which were set in a circular issued last year. My Department's officers will be following this up with discussions with individual authorities.The White Paper "Better Services for the Mentally Handicapped" (Cmnd. 4683) published in 1971 recommended a substantial shift in the balance of care from hospital to community services and hospital and local authorities were also asked to prepare joint plans for development of their services on the lines recommended. The first of these are now being studied by my officials.

    Burial Grant (Stillbirths)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to provide that burial rant shall be given to those parents whose children are born dead; how many children have been so born in 1969, 1970, 1971 and 1973; and what would be the average total cost of this grant.

    In England and Wales the number of stillbirths recorded for 1969 was 10,654; for 1970, 10,345; for 1971, 9,899; for 1972 (provisionally) 8,799; and for 1973 (provisionally) 6,487 up to 19th October. Figures obtained in 1969 show that the cost of a funeral for a still-born child was then about £4; and, on that basis, the cost of providing a grant would be about £40,000 a year for England and Wales. Successive Governments have, however, taken the view that it would not be appropriate for the national insurance scheme to cover this particular eventuality; and I have no proposals for a change in that policy.

    Battered Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will recommend to general practitioners and those doctors in charge of children, when in hospital, to refer to the local medical officer of health any child they consider to be battered in order that they can be visited by a health visitor who is, by her training, qualified to recognise the signs of illtreatment.

    My Department has issued a memorandum to all concerned with the management of non-accidental injury to children with the object of increasing professional awareness of the syndrome and recommending appropriate action, and has followed this up periodically with further information. The memorandum stresses the importance of early recognition of child abuse and deals with the rôles of doctors in hospital and general practice, medical officers of health and health visitors amongst others. The memorandum also recommends co-ordinated action by all the various services concerned in order to secure early recognition and avoidance of further risk for the child. I am sending a copy of the memorandum and two subsequent circulars to my hon. Friend.

    National Health Service Reorganisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the chairmen of the shadow authorities now operating in order to secure the National Health Service reorganisation on 1st April 1974 are receiving remuneration in this interim period.

    Children's Hearing And Speech Impairment

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT a list of the specialist diagnostic centres for the assessment of children whose language development is retarded, together with the dates upon which they opened and the number of staff employed;(2) if he will issue advice to all post-natal clinics for the immediate referral to a specialist diagnostic centre when impaired hearing or language problems are suspected; what is his estimate of the extra centres and costs involved in treating children of pre-school age; and if he will make a statement;(3) if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the sums allocated for specialist diagnostic centres for speech and language disordered children for each of the last five years together with the percentage of the budget for the National Health Service that this represents.

    Wherever possible, babies at risk of hearing or speech impairment from genetic or other causes are identified at birth and their development progress is watched. Tests to detect hearing impairment are carried out on these and all other babies as soon as practicable, usually at about age six months.Where hearing impairment is thus detected as a single handicap, or in association with other handicaps, or where language problems are suspected, the child should be referred promptly for comprehensive assessment which includes specialist diagnostic provision for hearing and language problems.No information is available centrally of the number, costs or staffing of centres providing diagnostic or treatment services for children with impaired hearing or language problems. Although there are some hearing, audiology and speech centres, assessment services for children with all kinds of defects are generally better able to assess the total needs of such children, many of whom have more than one defect, than separate services at centres for individual conditions. Our policy is to encourage the development of comprehensive assessment services and my Department has given guidance on this to health service authorities.

    Regional Health Authorities (Chairmen)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the names of the chairmen of regional health authorities, together with the salaries they will receive and the number of days each week they will be expected to work.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my reply—[Vol. 857, c. 413–14.]to my hon. Friend the Member for Billericay (Mr. McCrindle) on 15th June which announced the names of chairmen of regional health authorities. Flat rate remuneration of £2,000 per annum is payable. The amount of time devoted to the job will vary but is not expected to be less than one or more than two days a week.

    Lead Poisoning

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make a progress report on the research into the long- and short-term effects on physical and mental health and on consequent social behaviour of lead poisoning; and whether he will make a statement on the action being taken by his Department to combat this menace more effectively.

    I am advised that there is very little positive evidence of lead poisoning in the United Kingdom and that the raised blood lead levels that have been detected indicate that those concerned are only mildly affected. A good deal of research evidence has recently been received in my Department and the Chief Medical Officer has asked a group of experts to assess it. Action by the Departments concerned will be taken in the light of the medical advice given by my Department.

    Immigrants (Repatriation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many immigrants have been repatriated since 1971 under the scheme operated by the Supplementary Benefits Commission; and at what cost.

    Between 1st January 1972 and 31st October 1973, 174 families at a cost of £34,500.

    Fluoridation

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to advise the new water authorities to add fluoride to the public water supply.

    Under the National Health Service Reorganisation Act 1973 it will be for each health authority to decide in respect of its own area whether it wishes fluoridation to be introduced. If it does, it will then be for the regional water authority to consider whether it is able to do so. I shall continue to commend fluoridation of water supplies to health authorities as the most effective measure against dental decay.

    Accidental Poisoning (Children)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the work- ing party set up by the Medicines Commission to investigate the extent of the dangers and injuries caused to children accidentally swallowing medicines or household chemicals is likely to report; and if he will make a statement.

    I understand that the working party has met three times and is making good progress but it is not possible to predict when it will report. It is considering all aspects of the presentation of medicines in relation to child safety, but not of household chemicals, which are the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department.

    Health Districts (Manchester)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he is taking following the deputation to his Department, including the Lord Mayor of Manchester and the chairman of the area health authority, to discuss the number of health districts for Manchester; and if he will make a statement.

    I am considering the matter. I shall write to the hon. Member informing him of my decision.

    Drowning

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many deaths from drowning took place in 1970, 1971 and 1972.

    Deaths from drowning (ICD N.994.1) in England and Wales were as follows:

    YearNumber
    19701,220
    19711,269
    19721,217
    (provisional)

    Nhs Sector Administrators

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, under the reorganisation of the National Health Service, the proposed sector administrator will be the existing hospital secretary with a wider responsibility for some community services; and under what circumstances sector administrators will be appointed in addition to the hospital secretaries.

    It will be for the new health authorities to consider what management arrangements suit the circumstances in each district. Further guidance on these arrangements and on procedures for filling posts after 1st April 1974 will be issued by my Department as early as possible in 1974.

    Hospital Secretaries

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of the concern for existing hospital secretaries over the uncertainty of their future place in the new health structure, if he will now indicate the future of this group of officers.

    Hospital secretaries, like other existing National Health Service administrative staff, will transfer to the new health authorities on 1st April 1974 on their existing conditions of service. Duties similar to those for which hospital secretaries are responsible will continue to be carried out in the reorganised National Health Service, though the new service should also bring wider opportunities for those with experience in the hospital secretary field.

    Industrial Disputes (Benefit)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is now the duration of his interdepartmental investigation into the rules governing payment of supplementary benefit to those involved in industrial disputes; and if and when he expects it to come to a conclusion.

    This is a matter which the Government brought under review immediately we took office. Some positive steps were taken in the Social Security Act 1971 and since then we have kept a close watch on the position. I have no proposals to put before the House at this stage but I can assure my hon. Friend that we shall continue to keep it under review.