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Written Answers

Volume 874: debated on Tuesday 21 May 1974

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 21st May 1974

Defence

Forces' Pay

6.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he has yet received the report of the Armed Forces Pay Review Board; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave earlier today to Questions by the hon. Member for Mid-Oxon (Mr. Hurd) and the hon. and gallant Member for Winchester (Rear-Admiral Morgan-Giles).

Injuries And Compensation (Northern Ireland)

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will consider arranging for interim awards of compensation to be paid to those members of the Armed Forces injured on service in Northern Ireland who have been waiting for such payments for more than six months.

The courts already make interim payments, and it is open to a claimant to apply to the court for an interim payment at any time.

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many members of Her Majesty's Forces have been seriously wounded during the past six years in Northern Ireland; of these, how many have made a claim for compensation against the Northern Ireland Office; and what is the number of outstanding claims which have been registered for more than 12 months.

Since 1969, when the Army commenced its operations, out of 1,200 Service men who have received injuries needing hospital treatment, 177 have been placed on the seriously ill list. All of those seriously injured have made claims. The number of these claims which have been outstanding for more than 12 months is 76.

Rent Rebates And Supplementary Benefit

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence approximately how many soldiers are drawing rent rebates for their married quarters; and approximately how many are receiving supplementary social security payments.

About 4,500 soldiers are drawing rent rebates in respect of their married accommodation. Soldiers may claim the family income supplement if their income is below the prescribed amount for the size of their family. We do not know how many claim but it is likely to be few.

Military Aircraft Requirements

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement about future military aircraft requirements.

In common with other aspects of the defence programme, our military aircraft requirements are being examined as part of the current review of defence policy. It is too early to anticipate the outcome of this review.

Land

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is now in a position to make a statement about his consideration of the recommendations of the Nugent Report on defence lands.

No. As my hon. Friend the Minister of State for Defence told my hon. Friend in his reply to the Question he asked on 1st May, we hope to be in a position to make an announcement reasonably soon.

Nuclear Deterrent

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the Government intend to improve the nuclear deterrent; whether by taking, or not taking, any decisions they have now closed any options of doing so; and whether he will make a statement.

All I can say about the Polaris force and future requirements for its improvement is that in common with all our defence forces, every aspect is being closely scrutinised in the current Defence Review. All options remain open.

Singapore

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the cost of maintaining British forces at their present level in Singapore.

Some £15 million, of which the local defence expenditure element is about £12 million.

Careers Information (Schools)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what steps he is taking to make available information about careers in Her Majesty's Forces in schools throughout the country, and in particular in the Inner London Education Authority area.

Regular visits are made by each of the Services' schools liaison officers to schools throughout the country including schools in the Inner London Education Authority area. The Services also participate in careers conferences and sponsor visits to military establishments.

Polaris Bases

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what further consideration he has given to the matter of how best to negotiate the future of the Polaris bases in the United Kingdom,

I have nothing to add to the answer I gave my hon. Friend the Member for Newport (Mr. Hughes) and the hon. Member for Moray and Nairn (Mrs. Ewing) on 9th April.

Dhofar

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will initiate an immediate review of the military assistance which Her Majesty's Government are affording to the Sultan of Oman in his efforts to suppress the rebellion in Dhofar.

The review which I announced on 21st March will consider all our commitments worldwide, including the question of assistance to the Sultan of Oman.

Great Britain And Nato (Costs)

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proportion of the defence budget is used in defence of Great Britain itself and in fulfilling the NATO commitment, based on the latest available figures.

Offshore Oil And Gas Equipment (Production)

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will set up a special working party to study urgently the possibility of using the resources of certain naval dockyards for the production and/or servicing of vessels and equipment required for the exploration and exploitation of offshore oil and gas.

My Department is already in close touch with the Departments of Energy and Industry about proposals to use the resources of naval dockyards for this purpose.

Ulster Defence Regiment

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on recruitment for the Ulster Defence Regiment.

Since 1st January 1974 the weekly number of applications to join the UDR has averaged 40 men and 12 women, resulting in a total weekly average of 33 enrolments in the regiment. The total male strength of the UDR has fallen this year by 301 to 7,311 all ranks. The strength of women members has risen over the same period by 125 to 440.Despite the fall in numbers the regiment has continued to meet its operational commitments, but it is obviously desirable that the flow of recruits should improve in order that the demands on part-time members should be relaxed as far as the operational situation allows. The recently formed recruiting team is designed to give the eleven UDR battalions, on which the main onus for local recruiting properly rests, specialist advice and support, and the regiment is continuing by various means to foster its regimental spirit.

Bulldog Training Aircraft

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will increase the RAF order for the training plane Bull dog.

No. Some 130 Bulldog trainer aircraft are on order for the RAF and 59 of these have already been delivered. This order meets the RAF's needs for a primary trainer as currently forecast.

Royal Naval Hydrographic Service

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the subject of the future of the Royal Naval Hydrographic Service.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave the hon. Mem

COMMANDO SERVICE
1948–49…Palestine/Libya/Cyprus/Canal Zone…Internal security duties.
1949–50…Hong Kong…Internal security duties.
1950–52…Malaya…Emergency.
1950–52…Korea…United Nations Force (attached to USMC).
1953–54…Canal Zone…Internal security duties.
1955–56…Cyprus…Internal security duties.
1956…Suez…Anglo/French landings.
1957–59…Cyprus…Internal security duties.
1961…Kuwait…Iraqi crisis.
1962…Brunei…Assault on Limbang.
1962–66…Borneo…Indonesian confrontation.
1963–67…Aden…Internal security duties 42 Commando RM assisted in the withdrawal from Aden
1964…Tanganyika…Army Mutinies
1964…Radfan…Specific operation in the Aden campaign
1969–present…Northern Ireland…Internal security duties Tours of up to 4 months
SEA SERVICE
1947–48…Palestine/Mediterranean……Internal security duties.
1950–53…Korea……United Nations Operations.
1953…Falkland Islands……Deterrent landings.
1956…Suez……Anglo/French landings.
1960–72…Persian Gulf……Internal security duties.
1961…Kuwait……Iraqi crisis.
1962…Indonesia……Confrontation.
1963…Bahamas……Cuban crisis.
1963…British Guiana……Civil disturbances.
1964…Tanganyika……Army Mutinies.
1966…Seychelles……Internal security duties.
Additionally, there have of course been continuing commitments including the role of the Royal Marines on the flanks of the NATO Alliance. I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave him on 14th May.—[Vol. 873, c. 385–6.]

Raf Syerston, Nottinghamshire

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will take steps to protect the facilities at RAF Syerston, Nottinghamshire, now being kept on a care and maintenance basis; and how soon he expects to be able to make a statement on its future use.

The facilities at RAF Syerston are protected by RAF Newton. The ber for Louth (Mr. Archer) on 3rd May 1974.—[Vol. 872, c. 556–7.]

Royal Marines (Military Operations)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish a list in the OFFICIAL REPORT giving the military operations in which Royal Marine units have served ashore and afloat since the end of World War II.

Since the end of World War II, Royal Marine units have taken part in the following military operations:future use of the station is being reconsidered as part of the present comprehensive review of defence policy.

Electoral Registration

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether his attention has been drawn to the letter dated 20th June 1973 from Mr. Speaker concerning Service voting; and what steps he intends to take to overhaul the present system of registration for Service voters and their wives.

The introduction of the legislation which is necessary to give effect to the proposals made in Cmnd. 5363 would be a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department. The Ministry of Defence is taking all necessary steps to ensure that Service men are aware and take advantage of the existing facilities for Service registration.

Chatham Dockyard

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the figure of total expenditure on Chatham Dockyard during the 11 years 1963 to 1973 inclusive (a)to equip it with nuclear facilities, and (b)to improve the facilities for the repair and/or refit of conventional naval vessels.

Sherwood Forest

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what area of land in Sherwood Forest is still used for training purposes by Her Majesty's Forces; and how soon he expects to release it for civil use.

At present the Services use 1,260 acres of leased land in the area of Sherwood Forest; 336 acres have been surrendered to the lessors since April 1973 and we intend that a further 1,184 acres shall be progressively returned to them by the end of 1978.

Hs1182

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what orders have been given for the HS1182 close support trainer.

A contract for the development and production of the HS1182—now known as the Hawk—which will be the new jet trainer for the RAF, was placed with Hawker Siddeley Aviation early in 1972. Contracts for development and initial production of the Adour engine which will power the aircraft have been placed with Rolls-Royce (1971) Ltd.

Employment

Wages Inspectorate

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the effectiveness of the Wages Inspectorate.

Yes. The Inspectorate meets its obligations to investigate all complaints alleging breaches of the Wages Council Regulations and inspects each year a proportion of establishments in each of the wages council trades.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the establishment of the Wages Inspectorate, and what is the number in post.

The establishment of the Wages Inspectorate is comprised of the Chief Wages Inspector—with the rank of senior principal—17 senior executive officers, 148 executive and higher executive officers and 88 clerical officers and clerical assistants, a total of 254. At present 242 of these posts are filled.

Overtime Ban (Civil And Public Services Association)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if his Department will intervene to assist in resolving the ban on overtime operated since 22nd April 1974 by the Civil and Public Services Association.

Discussions between my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services and the unions involved are continuing and it would not be appropriate for my Department to intervene.

Mental Health Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what special facilities are available for assisting the after-care services dealing with mental health to provide opportunities of employment for their patients.

The full range of my Department's specialist resettlement services is available to mentally ill and mentally handicapped people who need help in obtaining open or sheltered employment. In particular, disablement resettlement officers work closely with the staff of local authority social services in helping mentally ill and mentally handicapped people to resettle in the community.

Fair Wages Resolution 1946

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the operation of the Fair Wages Resolution 1946; and if he will make a statement.

I realise that the circumstances in which the Fair Wages Resolution was passed by the House of Commons in 1946 were different from those which exist today. The Government would be prepared to discuss these arrangements with the TUC and CBI in the wider context of collective bargaining.

Wages Council Regulations

asked the Secretary of State for Employment on how many occasions firms covered by wages councils legislation have been found to be in breach of wages councils' regulations; and in how many of these cases prosecutions have ensued.

The following are the numbers of firms covered by wages councils legislation found to have been in breach of the regulations in 1973:Wages Councils Notices—Not posted:11,200 Wages Councils Notices—Inadequate: 1,051

19731972197119701969
Industrial and staff canteen undertakings:
Wage97141815
Time196243280355370
Licensed non-residential establishments:
Wage555640646392534
Time2,9683,3703,3292,0712,871
Licensed residential establishments and licensed restaurants:
Wage102111157140109
Time1,0931,0531,2371,0681,230
Unlicensed places of refreshment:
Wage139169165200236
Time8238319501,0291,257

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the total number of firms that were found on inspection by the Wages Council Inspectorate to have (a) no notices posted, and (b) inadequate notices posted in each of the following wages councils: (i) industrial and staff canteens, (ii) licensed non-

19731972197119701969
Industrial and staff canteen undertakings:
No Notices510525608656788
Inadequate Notices3130273956
Licensed non-residential establishments:
No Notices2,0621,9481,8951,4151,789
Inadequate Notices236245213147285
Licensed residential establishments and licensed restaurants:
No Notices740624723616689
Inadequate Notices7256544654
Unlicensed places of refreshment:
No Notices543534634639786
Inadequate Notices3225222954
Wages records—Not kept:2,580
Wages records—Inadequate:3,084
Time records—Not kept:19,737
Time records—Inadequate:3,182
Failure to allow customary holidays:50
Failure to allow annual holidays:93
Underpaying wages:7,524
Underpaying holidays (annual and accrued holiday pay):3,664
NO employer was prosecuted for a breach of the regulations.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the total number of firms in each of the following wages councils that were found not to have kept (a) wage records, and (b) time records, for each of the last five years: (i) industrial and staff canteen undertakings, (ii) licensed non-residential establishments, (iii) licensed residential establishments and licensed restaurants, and (iv) unlicensed places of refreshment.

The numbers of firms in the under noted trades were found not to have kept (a) wage records and (b) time records, in the past five years:residential undertakings, (iii) licensed residential establishments and licensed restaurants, and (iv) unlicensed places of refreshment, for each of the last five years.

The numbers of firms in the under noted trades were found to have no notices posted and to have inadequately posted notices, in the last five years:

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the number of firms inspected by the Wages Councils Inspectorate due to (a) com-plaints and (b) routine visits for each of:he following wages councils: (i) icensed non-residential establishments, ii) licensed residential establishments and

19731972197119701969
Licensed non-residential establishments:
Complaint628730622637727
Routine6,5157,1366,5774,0575,408
Licensed residential establishments licensed restaurants:
Complaint1,3771,2911,1601,1661,181
Routine1,3711,2821,5581,3471,610
Unlicensed places of refreshment:
Complaint338354326396451
Routine1,3751,3771,4691,6532,005
Industrial and staff canteens:
Complaint7180101142128
Routine1,5681,6871,8552,0142,463

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the total arrears paid by firms visited on routine inspections in each of the following wages councils: (i) industrial and staff canteens, (ii) licensed non-residential

19731972197119701969
£££££
Industrial and staff canteens1,6491,4551,4771,3121,401
Licensed non-residential establishments43,44738,15022,57922,94933,294
Licensed residential establishments and licensed restaurants26,45817,38513,84811,99513,090
Unlicensed places of refreshment8,8034,1422,8884,5495,276

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the OFFICIAL REPORT the total arrears paid by firms because of a complaint in each of the following wages council: (i) industrial and staff canteens, (ii) non-residential undertakings,

19731972197119701969
£££££
Industrial and staff canteens9691,1641,1871,016679
Licensed non-residential establishments19,19719,52511,3468,24114,388
Licensed residential establishments and licensed restaurants19,29410,1757,5006,6306,738
Unlicensed places of refreshment4,6402,6411,9232,3982,512

Wages

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the average wage rate and earnings for male and female industrial workers, respectively, sub-divided between adults and licensed restaurants, (m) unlicensed places of refreshments, and (iv) industrial and staff canteens for each of the last five years.

The numbers of inspections undertaken as a result of {a) complaints and (b) routine visits in each of the undernoted trades in the last five years are as follows:establishments, (iii) licensed residential establishments and licensed restaurants, and (iv) unlicensed places of refreshment, for each of the last five years.

The following amounts were paid by firms in the under-noted trades visited on routine inspection in the last five years:

The following amounts were paid by firms in the under noted trades as a result of complaints in the last five years:juveniles; what are the number of hours worked to provide these earnings; and what percentage change this represents over the past five years.

Following is the latest available information about earnings and hours for full-time manual workers

Average weekly EarningsAverage Hours worked
October 1968October 1973Percentage changeOctoberOctoberPercentage change
19681973(ii) over (i)19681973(v) over (iv)
££
Men, 21 years and over23.6241.52+75.845.844.7-2.4
Women, 18 years and over11.3121.15+87.038.237.5-1.8
Youths and boys10.7421.60+101.141.340.9-1.0
Girls7.6015.21+100.138.838.1-1.8
I regret that insufficient information is available from which to calculate national average wage rates in manufacturing industries but the percentage changes in weekly wage rates are set out below:
Weekly wage rates Percentage Change
October 1968—October 1973
Men, 21 years and over+72.5
Women, 18 years and over+81.9
Juveniles+100.4

Gkn Sankey Ltd Bilston

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what progress has been made in the equal pay claim made on behalf of women clerical staff at G.K.N. Sankey Limited, Bilston, in which his Department has been concerned.

I understand that, as the result of a recent meeting between the Pay Board and a joint delegation from the company and the Association of Technical and Supervisory Staff, the company is to submit fresh equal pay proposals to the Pay Board.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many registered disabled persons are registered as unemployed at Department of Employment offices covering the city of Birmingham.

On 8th April the number of registered disabled people unemployed in each of the employment office areas in the city of Birmingham was as follows:

Aston……245
Birmingham……129
Handsworth……145
Selly Oak……302
Small Heath……263
Wash wood Heath……169
Sutton Cold field……51

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many registered disabled persons are registered as unemployed at Department of Employment offices covering the Yardley constituency.

The boundaries of the constituency do not coincide with those of employment office areas. But the constituency is served partly by the employment office at Small Heath and partly by the office at Washwood Heath. On 8th April the number of registered disabled people unemployed in the areas covered by these offices was 263 and 169 respectively.

Mersey Docks And Harbour Company

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the industrial dispute effecting the warehousing section of the Mersey Docks and Harbour Company.

The dispute has now been resolved and the warehousemen resumed work on 13th May.

Supervisory Studies (Examinations)

asked the Secretary of of State for Employment what prospects he has to extend opportunities for workers, representatives and shop stewards to undertake modified National Examinations Board Certificate of Supervisory Studies (NEBSS) courses in the principles and practices of supervision, technical and financial aspects of supervision, technical and financial aspects of management, industrial relations and communications, in order to make representatives more effective in their role.

I am advised by the Manpower Services Commission that the Training Services Agency has no specific proposals.

Retail Price Index

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what consultations he is having in regard to changing the ratings of the retail price index.

The Retail Prices Index Advisory Committee, on which are represented the CBI, the TUC, producer and consumer organisations and eminent academic economists and statisticians, is currently considering a number of issues, including the treatment of housing costs in the index. In the latter part of last year it recommended the change of the reference base of the index from 16th January 1962=100 to 15th January 1974 = 100.

Nationalised Industries (Disputes)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what statistics his Department maintains relating to industrial disputes in each of the nationalised industries;(2) in what form statistics relating to industrial disputes in the steel industry reach his Department.

Except for the coal mining industry, for which information is supplied by the National Coal Board, the statistics, including those for the steel industry, are based on reports from my local officers and regional manpower advisers. In the public sector these are supplemented as necessary by information obtained from central authorities. The figures are aggregated on an industrial basis according to the United Kingdom Standard Industrial Classification (1968). From 1973 arrangements have been made to identify stoppages in the public sector, distinguishing public corporations, which include but do not separately distinguish nationalised industries. Analyses for 1973 will not be available for some weeks.

Social Services

Bartered Wives And Children

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much financial help is being given to local authorities and voluntary organisations in respect of providing accommodation facilities for battered wives and children.

Under the urban aid programme approval has been given for grants to two such organisations in London. In Hounslow the grant amounts to £10,315 a year for a minimum of five years, plus £3,450 for initial expenses. The grant to a project in Camden is £9,300, plus associated running costs for a minimum of five years. Twenty-five per cent. of the cost of these grants is borne by the local authorities concerned.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what statistical information she has on the scale of the problem of battered wives and children in Humberside and particularly in Hull.

None, but officers of the Department are in touch with the newly opened Women's Aid Centre in Hull, where women who have been assaulted by their husbands are accommodated with their children.

Walsgrave Hospital, Coventry

40.

asked the Secretary of Sate for Social Services whether she has taken note of the problems arising at Walsgrave Hospital, Coventry, in connection with the underpayment of technicians concerned with medical physics and physiological measurement; if she will take action to assist in solving these problems; and whether she will make a statement.

The revaluation of the work of medical physics and physiological measurement technicians is primarily a matter for the Whitley Council, but both sides have drawn my attention to their problems in proceeding in the light of the statement made by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment on 18 th March and I am considering the matter.—[Vol. 870. c. 688–703.]

Physiotherapists

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will institute an inquiry into the salary and career structure of physiotherapists in the National Health Service, in order to overcome the problems of recruitment.

The Whitley Council has reached agreement, approved by the Pay Board, on increased pay to operate from 1st April 1974 and this has now been notified to employing authorities. The council has also agreed to discuss other improvements that might be permissible within the context of the Pay Code. My right hon. Friend has written to the Whitley Council about measures that would enable consideration of desirable developments to the role and structure of the professions supplementary to medicine, including physiotherapists, to be pursued.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if she will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency physiotherapists; and if she will make a statement;(2) if she will give the proportion of employment time of agency employed physiotherapists as distinct from National Health Service physiotherapists, for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if she intends taking any action to change this trend; and if she will make a statement.

So far as we are aware very few physiotherapists are employed through agencies and the information requested is not available centrally.

Proprietary Drugs

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many proprietary drugs ruled by the United States Food and Drug Administration to be lacking evidence of effectiveness are still on sale in the United Kingdom; and what is the cost to the National Health Service of these drugs.

The Food and Drugs Administration classification cannot be directly applied to products on the British market in view of differences in nomenclature, composition and claims.A search made in 1970, when the FDA list was published showed that 90 products available here were similar to ones on the list. The cost to the National Health Service of supplying these drugs through chemists was approximately £2,700,000 during 1973. Figures for the cost of supply to hospitals are not available. Of the 90, there are 71 which are combinations of drugs where the efficacy of the constituents was not questioned by the FDA but where specific evidence of the usefulness of the particular combination was lacking. The remaining 19 were rated as inefficacious in themselves; the total cost of supplying these 19 through chemists during the same period was £68,000.At the time the list appeared in 1970, consideration of certain products included in the FDA review had not been completed. In some of these cases the FDA has announced its intention of classifying such products as inefficacious, but a final ruling has not yet been made. These products have not been included in the above figures.

Young Persons (Detention And Care Facilties)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether she will conduct an inquiry into the case of the 14–year-old girl, details of which are in her possession, who appeared before the Lewisham Juvenile Court on Thursday 9th May, and who has been in the care of Southwark Borough Council since January 1973 because no place could be found for her at a community home.

The children's regional planning committee consisting of London local authorities, which is responsible by statute for planning the provision of community homes on a regional basis for children in the care of those authorities, has accepted an invitation to meet me on 20th June to discuss, among other things, the arrangements for placing such children. A special inquiry into this individual case where the facts are known would not, in my view, be helpful and I am well aware of the difficulties experienced by the borough council in the case referred to by the hon. and learned Gentleman.

St George's Training Centre, Plymouth

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will make a statement on the decision of her Department to cancel the projected extension of St. George's Training Centre, Plymouth.

No decision has been made by my Department to cancel this project. It was originally programmed by Plymouth CB for 1972–73 but was, I gather, delayed because of questions raised by the previous Government about the high total cost.It is for Devon County Council to decide what priority it attaches to this project for its social services building programme for 1975–76. I will of course consider any such application sympathetically. I am well aware of the strong feeling of many people in the area over this project and the Government have already announced their intention, despite the severe financial restraints, to restore the planned financial target figures set out in "Better Services for the Mentally Handicapped".

Elderly Persons (East Staffordshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what proposals she has for the improvement of services and amenities for the aged in Burton-on-Trent;(2) what proposals she has for the improvement of services and amenities for the aged in the East Staffordshire district excluding Burton-on-Trent.

Local improvements in these areas are the responsibility of the Staffordshire County Council, the West Midland Regional Health Authority and the Staffordshire Area Health Authority. I understand that a three-year plan for the social services throughout the county will be submitted shortly to the appropriate committees of the county council. It is expected that loan sanction will be available this year for a new elderly persons' home of 50 beds at Burton-on-Trent. Hospital services specifically for the aged in East Staffordshire and Burton-on-Trent are provided at Burton District Hospital Centre, where a new 140–bed and 50 day-patient unit is presently under construction at an estimated cost of some £850,000. This should be in use in late 1975 when it will be possible for the area health authority to consider the closure of some older accommodation.

Stammering

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many persons in the United Kingdom suffer from stammering;(2) how many speech therapy centers there are in the United Kingdom dealing specifically with problems of adult stammering.

There are no official statistics about the incidence of stammering. A number of speech therapy clinics throughout the country provide facilities for the treatment of this condition. Intensive courses for groups of patients are also arranged.

Radiographers

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will make a statement on the pay and conditions of radiographers.

The Whitley Council has reached agreement, approved by the Pay Board, on increased pay to operate from 1st April 1974, and this has now been notified to employing authorities. The council has also agreed to discuss other improvements that might be permissible within the context of the Pay Code. My right hon. Friend has written to the Whitley Council about measures that would enable consideration of desirable developments to the role and structure of the professions supplementary to medicine, including radiographers, to be pursued.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will make a statement on the correspondence she has had with the Secretary of the Society of Radiographers regarding pay and conditions.

The secretary of the society wrote to inform my right hon. Friend that the society had asked the Staff Side of the Whitley Council to consider making a new claim. A pay increase in accordance with stage 3 has recently been agreed effectively from 1st April for radiographers and associated professions supplementary to medicine, and I have replied expressing the Government's concern about the staffing of the health services, observing that the details of the claim are proper to the council itself, and referring to the Government statement on future policy on incomes made by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment on 18th March.— [Vol. 870, c. 688–703.]

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the recognised establishments of radiographers in each of the hospitals of the Nottingham Area Health Authority; what are the numbers at present on strength at each of the hospitals; and what steps are being taken to recruit more radiographers.

There are currently 98 radiographers employed in hospitals in the area of Nottinghamshire AHA(T). Recruitment to meet local need is a matter for the health authority which, 1 understand, would like to employ a further 14, including seven in the North and four in the South Nottingham Districts.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency radiographers, respectively; and if she will make a statement.

Comprehensive information is not available in the form requested. Comparison of the cost of employing agency radiographers and National Health Service radiographers is affected by such variable factors as the charge made by the particular agency, the point which the National Health Service radiographer has reached in the salary scale and the elements of cost other than salary for the National Health Service radiographer.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will give the proportion of employment time of agency-employed radiographers, as distinct from National Health Service radiographers, for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if she intends taking any action to change this trend; and if she will make a statement.

Information in the form requested is not available centrally, but a special survey showed that a whole-time equivalent of 185 agency radiographers were employed at 30th April 1973 as against a total of 4,933 radiographers in post at 30th September 1973, representing 3.6 per cent of the total of these two figures.

Agency Nurses

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the numbers of agency nurses employed in hospitals in the Greater London area; and if she will list the hospitals where these nurses are employed.

3,122 agency nurses and midwives—in whole-time equivalent terms—at 30th September 1973, the latest date for which returns are centrally available, at the following hospitals:

  • St Bartholomews EC1
  • St Mark's EC1
  • London, Whitechapel
  • London, Mile End
  • Royal Free, Grays Inn Road
  • Royal Free, Liverpool Road
  • Hampstead General
  • New End, Hampstead
  • Coppetts Wood, Muswell Hill
  • Queen Mary's Maternity, Hampstead
  • University College WC1
  • St Pancras NW1
  • Middlesex W1
  • Hospital for Women, Soho Square
  • Athlone House, N6
  • Charing Cross, Fulham
  • West London, Hammersmith
  • St George's, Hyde Park Corner
  • St George's, Tooting
  • Atkinson Morley, Wimbledon
  • Westminster
  • Queen Mary's Roehampton
  • St Mary's Paddington
  • St Mary's Harrow Road
  • Paddington Green Children's
  • Samaritan Hospital for Women
  • Western Ophthalmic Hospital
  • Chepstow Lodge Annexe, W2
  • Guy's
  • Evelina Children's Hospital, SE1
  • Dunoran Home, Bromley
  • New Cross
  • King's College, Denmark Hill
  • Belgrave for Children, SW9
  • Dulwich
  • St Francis', East Dulwich
  • St Giles', Camberwell
  • St Thomas', SE1
  • Royal Waterloo
  • Grosvenor for Women, SW1
  • Lambeth
  • South-Western, SW9
  • Hammersmith
  • St Helena's, NW2
  • Sick Children, Gt. Ormond St
  • National Hospital for Nervous Diseases
  • Royal National Throat Nose and E1-r
  • Moorfields Eye
  • Maudsley, Denmark Hill
  • Brompton
  • National Heart
  • Royal National Orthopaedic Wl
  • Royal National Orthopaedic, Stanmore
  • St. Peter's, WC2
  • St. Paul's, WC2
  • St. Philip's, WC2
  • Shaftesbury, WC2
  • Royal Marsden, Fulham Road
  • Royal Marsden, Sutton
  • Queen Charlotte's
  • Chelsea Hospital for Women
  • Eastman Dental
  • Victoria Maternity, Barnet
  • Winifred House, Barnet
  • Uxbridge and District Cottage
  • Hayes Cottage
  • Hillingdon
  • Mount Pleasant, Southall
  • Wembley
  • Northwood, Pinner and District
  • Mount Vernon, Northwood
  • Harefield
  • Teddington Memorial
  • King Edward Memorial, Ealing
  • King Edward Memorial, South Ealing
  • West Middlesex, Isleworth
  • Chiswick Maternity
  • South Middlesex, Isleworth
  • Dame Gertrude Young, Ealing
  • Central Middlesex, Park Royal
  • Whittington, Highgate Hill
  • St. Charles', North Kensington
  • Marlborough Day, NW8
  • Harrow
  • Northwick Park
  • Highlands, Winchmore Hill
  • Chase Farm, Enfield
  • Enfield War Memorial
  • St. Michaels, Enfield
  • North Middlesex, N18
  • Prince of Wales General, Tottenham
  • St. Arm's General, Tottenham
  • Metropolitan, Kingsland Road
  • Bethnal Green
  • St. Leonards, N1
  • St. Matthews, N1
  • London Jewish, Stepney Green
  • Hackney
  • Eastern, Homerton
  • St. Andrew's, E3
  • Poplar
  • St. Mary's, Plaistow
  • East Ham Memorial
  • Queen Mary's, Stratford
  • Plaistow
  • West Ham Chest Clinic
  • Whipps Cross
  • Langthorne, Ell
  • Wanstead
  • Jubilee, Woodford Green
  • Chingford
  • Harts, Woodford Green
  • King George, Ilford
  • Dagenham
  • Chadwell Heath
  • Barking
  • Oldchurch, Romford
  • Rush Green, Romford
  • Victoria, Romford
  • St. George's, Hornchurch
  • Harold Wood
  • Lewisham
  • Hither Green
  • Grove Park
  • Brook General, SE18
  • St. Nicholas', Plumstead
  • British for Mothers and Babies, Woolwich
  • Queen Mary's, Sidcup
  • Orpington
  • Farnborough
  • Bromley
  • Beckenham
  • South London for Women and Children,
  • Clapham Common St. James', Balham
  • Birchlands Jewish, Wandsworth Common
  • Bolingbroke, Wandsworth Common
  • Tooting Bee
  • St. Stephen's, Chelsea
  • St. Luke's, Chelsea
  • Western, Seagrave Road, Fulham
  • St. Mary Abbots, Kensington
  • Croydon General
  • Mayday, Thornton Heath
  • Purley and District War Memorial
  • Waddon
  • Royal Eye, Surbiton
  • Kingston
  • Claremont, Surbiton
  • Tolworth
  • Barnes
  • Grove Road, Richmond
  • Carshalton, Beddington and Warlington
  • Cheam
  • Cumberland, Mitcham
  • St. Helier, Carshalton
  • Nelson, Merton
  • Sutton
  • Wandle Valley, Mitcham
  • Wilson, Mitcham
  • Wimbledon
  • Queen Mary's, Carshalton

Hospital Waiting Lists

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average length of waiting lists for the admission of non-emergency cases to the Macclesfield West Park Hospital and Macclesfield Infirmary; and to what extent these lists have been reduced in the last five years.

Averages are misleading as waiting times for admission vary according to the circumstances of individual cases. However, the numbers on the waiting lists for the two hospitals on the dates shown were as follows:

YearMacclesfield West Park HospitalMacclesfield Infirmary
31st December 196992874
31st December 1970122918
31st December 1971112810
December 31st 1972118921
31st December 1973261794
31st March 1974276640

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the number of people on hospital waiting lists in the area covered by the East Cheshire Area Health Authority; what percentage this is per 1,000 population; and how this compares with the national average.

On 31st December 1973, 1,490 people were awaiting admission to hospitals in the present Macclesfield district of the Cheshire Area Health Authority. This represented 8.82 per 1,000 population and compared with a national figure of 10.95.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the waiting times for appointments for patients at the out-patients departments at each of the hospitals of the Nottingham Area Health Authority; and what steps are being taken to obviate lengthy periods of waiting for patients.

Waiting time for new non-urgent out-patient appointments varies, according to specialty, from one week to three months. In the orthopaedic surgery and the ear, nose and throat specialties at the Nottingham General Hospital and in the orthopaedic surgery and gynaecology specialties at the Not-

Waiting Time (as at 31st March 1974)
Up to 3 months3–6 months6–12 monthsOver 12 months
Workshop and Retford District
General Surgery…111546452
Orthopaedics…68485529
Gynaecology…200925138
Mansfield and Newark District…
General Surgery…17512795161
Orthopaedic…272235241174
E.N.T.…193127204108
Gynaecology…32616210618
Ophthalmology…661625
Dental Surgery…12261932
South Nottingham District…
General Surgery…2161539380
Orthopaedics…186145
E.N.T.…216266247282
Dental Surgery…526781127
Ophthalmic Surgery…81107108165
Gynaecology…30319816115
North Nottingham District…
General Surgery…255782614
Orthopaedics…86416124
Plastic Surgery…1051161691,150
Thoracic Surgery…2421—
Gynaecology…221261130
Waiting times for operations in the two southern districts of Nottingham will improve as additional facilities now being developed are brought into use. In Workshop and Ret ford additional orthopaedic and surgical beds will be brought into use shortly.In Mansfield and Newark attempts have been made to reduce waiting times by the allocation of special beds and theatre time to short-stay surgery.

Tingham City Hospital waiting times fox some patients exceed 13 weeks. The area health authority has under review measures to reduce waiting times but major improvements in these specialties are not likely to be possible until the additional facilities at the new University Hospital, now under construction, become available.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the waiting periods for operations in the various specialities of each of the hospitals of the Nottingham Area Health Authority; and what steps are being taken to reduce waiting periods.

Waiting periods for operations in various specialities in the four health districts comprising Nottingham AHA(T) are as follows:

Drug Addiction

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of those who attend drug addiction treatment centers stays voluntarily for the full course.

Patients attending drug treatment centers do so voluntarily; the length of individual treatment varies and is the responsibility of the consultant psychiatrist in charge. Information is not available on the number of patients who discontinue treatment against the advice of the consultant.

Nurses

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated shortage of trained nurses in National Health Service hospitals; and how many wards or hospital departments are closed because of such shortages.

No realistic estimate of the overall shortage of trained nurses in National Health Service hospitals is available. Individual health authorities are themselves responsible for assessing the nurse staffing requirements of the hospitals they administer and for setting the standards they apply for this purpose.

HospitalNursing EstablishmentNursing Staff in post (Whole time equivalent)
1. Workshop and Retford District
Victoria Hospital………180126
Kilton Hospital………170153
Carlton Hospital………3835
Retford Hospital………3534
2. Mansfield and Newark District
Kings Mill Hospital………315263
Mansfield General Hospital………133128
Victoria Hospital………149135
Ransom Hospital………6560
Newstead Hospital………8373
Langwith Lodge Diabetic Unit………1212
Harlow Wood Orthopaedic Hospital………9489
Forest Hospital………5752
Debdale Hall Hospital………2519
Balderton Hospital………200200
Newark General Hospital………7873
Newark Hawtonville Hospital………9090
Berry Hill Rehabilitation Centre………11
Nurse Education (including learners) and nursing administration257271
3. North Nottingham District
Nottingham City Hospital………875920
Firs Maternity Hospital………5548
Ellerslie House………159
Basford Hospital………6862
Sherwood Hospital………314235
Westdale Hospital………3030
St. Annes Hospital………4647
St. Francis Hospital………9990
Mapperley Hospital………301267
The Coppice Hospital………5044
4. South Nottingham District
Nottingham General Hospital (including Ruddington Hall)460467
The Cedars………5755
Nottingham Eye Hospital………3536
Highbury Hospital………130134
Childrens Hospital………9584
Womens Hospital (including Adbolton)………128124
Saxondale Hospital………214209
Education including learners………404391
Administration………119
Recruitment of nursing staff is a matter for the area health authority but

Hospital wards or departments may have to be closed for a number of reasons and figures are not available to show the number closed specifically because of a shortage of trained nurses.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the recognised establishments of nurses in each of the hospitals of the Nottingham Area Health Authority; what are the numbers at present on strength at each of the hospitals; and what steps are being taken to recruit more nurses.

Recognised nursing establishments and numbers of nurses in post —including students and pupils—on 1st April 1974 at hospitals in the area of the Nottinghamshire AHA(T) are:I understand that campaigns are in progress to recruit more nurses.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what representations she has received from the Royal College of Nursing, and individual members, regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if she will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating nurses' pay;if she is prepared to meet a deputation from the Royal College of Nursing to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the nursing profession are examined; and if she will make a statement;(2)what representations she has received from the Royal College of Nursing regarding the declining morale in the nursing profession; what steps she intends taking to improve morale; and if she will make a statement.

As my right hon. Friend informed the House in reply to a Question from the right hon. and learned Member for Surrey, East (Sir G. Howe) on 14th May—[Vol. 873, c. 1108–14.]— she saw a deputation from the Royal College of Nursing and promised them to meet the Staff Side of the Nurses and Midwives Whitley Council in three weeks' time to answer their request for an independent inquiry into nurses' pay.The delay by the previous Government in announcing a decision on the Briggs Report had seriously affected morale and the Royal College warmly welcomed the Government's decision to accept its main recommendations. My right hon. Friend has promised a further statement on timing as soon as possible.The Royal College also drew attention to a number of other factors affecting morale including increased intensity of pressure of work and working conditions. My right hon. Friend has asked officers of the Department to review urgently what steps can be taken to alleviate the situation.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of nurses she will give to area health authorities.

My Department is continuing to provide background support to the recruitment activities of National Health Service employing authorities by publicity campaigns in the national Press and cinemas, production of posters, brochures and films and provision of exhibition material. The total number— in whole-time equivalent terms—of nursing and midwifery staff in the National Health Service in England rose by nearly 5,000 in the year ended 30th September 1973.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency nurses; and if she will make a statement.

Comprehensive information is not available in the form requested. Comparison of the cost of employing an agency nurse and a National Health Service nurse is affected by such variable factors as the charge made by the particular agency, the point that the National Health Service nurse has reached on the salary scale and the elements of cost other than salary for the National Health Service nurse.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of the shortage of nurses she will take the appropriate steps to bring nurses back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies; and if she will make a statement.

Nurses choose agency work for a variety of reasons. I am considering how and to what extent these might be met by direct employment in the National Health Service.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will give the proportion of employment time of agency employed nurses as distinct from National Health Service nurses, for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if she intends taking any action to change this trend; and if she will make a statement.

The following table relates to National Health Service hospitals in England: Agency nurses and midwives as a percentage of total qualified nurses and midwives (in whole-time equivalent terms) at 30th September

1965…………1·2
1967…………1·2
1969…………1·8
1971…………2·5
1973…………3·1
I am currently reviewing the use of agency nurses in the National Health Service.

Handicapped Persons (Training Centers)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many places are available in training centers for handicapped people in the Chorley constituency; and what is the number of people actually attending such centre and the number awaiting admission.

There are two adult training centres for adult mentally handicapped people in the constituency, with a nominal total of 105 places. There are at present 138 trainees attending the centres and 20 are on the waiting list.

Professions Supplementary To Medicine (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what representations she has received from the Society of Radiographers and individual radiographers regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if she will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating radiographers' pay;(2)what representations she has received from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists and individual physiotherapists regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if she will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating physiotherapists' pay;(3)what representations she has received from the Association of Occupational Therapists and individual occupational therapists regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if she will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating occupational therapists' pay.

We have received formal representations from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy and are aware of concern within the other professions about the working of the council in which they are represented. We have also received a number of similar representations from individual members of these professions. The National Health Service Whitley Councils were set up by voluntary agreement between staff and management; changes may be proposed in the councils by either side, but my right hon. Friend is willing to consider any proposals the Staff Side may wish to discuss with her.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if she is prepared to meet a deputation from the Society of Radiographers to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the radiography profession are examined; and if she will make a statement;(2)if she is prepared to meet a deputation from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the physiotherapy profession are examined; and if she will make a statement;(3)if she is prepared to meet a deputation from the Association of Occupational Therapists to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the occupational therapist profession are examined; and if she will make a statement.

If the Staff Side on which all these professional bodies are represented would like to meet me I should be glad to receive it.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what representations she has received from the Society of Radiographers regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps she intends taking to improve morale; and if she will make a statement;(2) what representations she has received from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapists regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps she intends taking to improve morale; and if she will make a statement:

(3) what representations she has received from the Association of Occupational Therapists regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps she intends taking to improve morale; and if she will make a statement.

We have received formal representations from the Society of Radiographers and are aware of a similar concern within the other professions, and my right hon. Friend has written to the Chairman of the Staff Side of the Whitley Council on which these bodies are represented about measures that would enable consideration of desirable developments in their role and structure to be pursued.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of radiographers she is now considering;(2)in view of the shortage of radiographers, what central guidance on methods of bringing radiographers back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies she will give to areas health authorities;(3)what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of physiotherapists she will give to area health authorities.(4)in view of the shortage of physiotherapists, what central guidance on methods of bringing physiotherapists back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies she will give to area health authorities;(5)what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of occupational therapists she will give to area health authorities.(6)in view of the shortage of occupational therapists what central guidance on methods of bringing occupational therapists back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies she will give to area health authorities.

We are pursuing a number of possibilities for these and other professions, related both to new recruits and to the attraction of qualified staff back into National Health Service employment. In particular we are reviewing the current methods of advertising for a range of National Health Service careers, and are considering how facilities for staff who can work only part-time might be improved.

Chronically Sick Persons (Long-Stay Accommodation)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what efforts are being made to provide long-stay accommodation in the area of Nottingham Area Health Authority for the chronically sick who need such accommodation but who cannot be accommodated in general medical wards where they might occupy acute medical beds, and who are of such an age that they cannot be accommodated in units designed for the young chronically sick or in geriatric wards.

Other than chronically sick children, to whom I assume my hon. Friend is not referring, I would regard units for the younger disabled as generally meeting the needs of patients up to age 64.The Nottingham Area Health Authority at present has one unit for the younger disabled at King's Mill Hospital, Mansfield. I am informed that the need for further provision is being actively considered but there are difficulties in selecting suitable sites.

Occupational Therapists

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if she will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency occupational therapists; and if she will make a statement;(2) if she will give the proportion of employment time of agency employed occupational therapists as distinct from National Health Service occupational therapists for the following years; 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if she intends taking any action to change this trend; and if she will make a statement.

I am not aware of any employment by the National Health Service of agency occupational therapists.

Drugs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many drugs currently in use in Great Britain have been ruled ineffective by the United States Food and Drug Administration.

In 1970, the United States Food and Drug Administration published a list of products which it had decided "lack substantial evidence of effectiveness". The products are described by their American proprietary names, and their effectiveness was considered in relation to the claims made for them in the United States of America, so that a direct comparison with British products is not completely straightforward.At the time the Committee on Safety of Drugs was able to identify 90 products available here which were similar to products on the Food and Drug Administration list. Of these, some 71 are combinations of drugs which were included on the list because of lack of evidence of the usefulness of the particular combination rather than because of doubts about the efficacy of the individual constituents.

Hospitals (Nottinghamshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he has for the improvement of hospital facilities serving the Nottinghamshire area.

Major improvements in hospital facilities are already under construction at Nottingham, Mansfield, Balderton, Worksop, Retford and Kilton. Planning for further improvement of services in the Nottinghamshire area is the responsibility of the Nottinghamshire Area Health Authority.

Mental Illness

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people, in the last 12 months for which figures are available, who were discharged from hospital after treatment for mental illness and referred to social services departments for social work support have received no such support owing to shortage of staff, what percentage were readmitted to hospital within one month and six months of discharge, respectively; and if she will make a statement.

This information is not available. In the relatively new and developing local authority social service departments in England, resources may not be available to meet all demands and co-operation between the health and local authorities over discharge arrangements is essential. The co-ordination arrangements which have been introduced as part of the health service reorganisation should help to facilitate this.

Health Services And Public Health Act 1968

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will replace Ministry of Health Circular 22/59 with a directive under Section 12 of the Health Services and Public Health Act 1968.

This was done in Circulars 100/74 and 19/74 issued respectively by the Welsh Office and by my Department on 29th March and 23rd April this year. I am sending my hon. Friend copies.

Invalid Vehicles

Evans asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average waiting time for the issue of an electric wheelchair from her Department's appliance centre at Ealing.

Standard attendant-controlled power-assisted pushchairs are available from stock and can be issued as soon as suitable storage and an electrical charging point have been arranged. The supply of indoor electrically-propelled chairs is at present subject to a delay of about 15 weeks because of production difficulties. Ealing Appliance Centre is in the same position as others; waiting lists are centrally controlled.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many extra medical officers would be required at her Department's offices in Blackpool to cater for the extension of the invalid vehicle service as proposed by Lady Sharp; if she has initiated the training of extra officers in advance of publishing her detailed proposals for the service in order that the administrative delays will be minimised; and if she will make a statement.

Estimates of any additional staff required could only be made in the light of decisions on the future of the vehicle service, about which consultations with organisations representing the disabled are proceeding. There can be no question of initiating training in advance of those decisions.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when she anticipates the component required to repair the invalid vehicle used by Mrs. Ross, 35 Hampsfell Drive, Morecambe, will be available.

The invalid three-wheeler on issue to Mrs. Ross was returned to her last week.

Kilmarnock And Paisley

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress is being made in the Kilmarnock and Paisley offices of the Department of Health and Social Security to ensure that the increases in benefits due in the week beginning 22nd July are paid; and if she will make a statement.

Uprating work at all local offices, including those at Kilmarnock and Paisley, has been affected by staff association action, but negotiations are continuing and I hope that the difficulties will soon be resolved. Any arrears of benefit which may arise will be paid from 22nd July

Supplementary Benefit (Birmingham)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what has been the number of supplementary benefits claimants in Birmingham in the last two years; in total and in each of the following classifications: (a) supplementary pensioners, (b) single-parent families, (c) claimants classified as unemployable, (d) claimants unemployed and wage-stopped, (e) claimants unemployed but not wage-stopped, (f) claimants off work sick and (g) others; and if she will also break these figures down into figures for each local office serving Birmingham;(2) what is the number of claimants in Birmingham who have received exceptional needs payments and exceptional claims allowances in the last two years; and what was the average amount paid.

I shall write to my hon. Friend as soon as the available information has been complied.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the number of supplementary benefits claimants in Birmingham who are rent-stopped; and what figures she has as to the average amount stopped for the last two years.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of cases of supplementary benefits claimants in Birmingham where the four-week and twelve-week rules have been applied in the last two years.

388 claimants had their allowances limited to four weeks at the outset of claim, and three after they had received an allowance for about 13 weeks. The operation of the four-week rule has been suspended generally since last December.

Birmingham (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of staff employed at each of the local offices in Birmingham, broken down into their different grades, the number of visiting officers employed in these offices, at the last available date, and the number of officers by which these offices are under strength.

I will send my hon. Friend the information as soon as it is available.

Pensions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consideration she has given to a letter dated 10th March 1974 from Major C. B. Thorne, MC, of Andover, a constituent of the hon. and gallant Member for Winchester, which was acknowledged on 15th March under reference B2A, concerning his pension.

I shall write to the hon. and gallant Gentleman about this matter as soon as possible.

Bonn

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister if he will seek to pay an official visit to Bonn.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if he will seek to pay an official visit to Bonn.

I look forward to maintaining close contact with the new Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany, but have not yet made any definite plans to visit Bonn.

National Economic Development Council

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister when he next plans to take the chair at a meeting of the National Economic Development Council.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which I gave to the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Lamont) on 9th May.— [Vol. 873, c. 579.]

Members Of Parliament (Access To Information)

Qll.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make it the practice of his administration that all Members shall have a right to secure through each Minister's private office any reasonably requested information considered necessary by Members in advising and assisting local authorities and other constituents, and that the answers to such advice and information are given priority.

It is already the practice of Ministers and their private offices to respond as helpfully and speedily as possible to approaches from hon. Members. If my hon. Friend has experienced any difficulty I suggest he should take it up with the Minister concerned.

Chinese People's Republic (Prime Minister)

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will invite the Prime Minister of the Chinese People's Republic to pay an official visit to Great Britain.

I will certainly keep in mind the possibility of inviting Prime Minister Chou-En-lai to visit this country. He would be a very welcome guest.

Government Policy (Prime Ministers' Speech)

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will place in the Library a copy of the public speech he delivered in Glasgow on 5th May concerning the problems facing his Government.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech on 5th May at Glasgow on Government policy.

I would refer the hon. Gentlemen to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Lamont).

Government Members (Former Appointments)

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if he will publish a list of the business appointments held by members of Her Majesty's Government prior to taking office in 1974.

No. The House is to consider tomorrow the whole question of the registration of Members' interests, and one of the issues will be whether such registration should be retrospective.

Chevening Estate

asked the Prime Minister who are the trustees of the Chevening estate.

Under the terms of the Chevening Estate Act 1959, the administrative trustees are:Lord Privy Seal

(ex officio): Lord Shepherd.

Two persons appointed by the Prime Minister: Sir John Hewitt and Mr. Hugo Read.

A person appointed by the Secretary of State for the Environment: Mr. Robin Fedden.

Director for the time being of the Victoria and Albert Museum: Dr. Roy Strong.

Additional Trustees: Lord Shackleton and Lord Hirshfield.

Economic Affairs (Chancellor's Speech)

asked the Prime Minister whether the public speech by the Chancellor of the Exchequer on the economy to the CBI on 14th May represents Government policy.

asked the Prime Minister if the public speech by the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the CBI on economic affairs on Tuesday 14th May represents Government policy.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Salmonella

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food from how many total samples of each feeding stuff the 15 cases of salmonella infection discovered by his laboratories in the year ended 30th April 1974 were found.

Altogether 214 samples were examined. It is not possible to break down this figure by type of feeding stuff since a number of the samples defied classification.

Greengrocers

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the estimated number of independent retail greengrocers in the United Kingdom; and if he will take steps designed to ensure conditions in which small independent greengrocers can continue to flourish.

The latest available figures given by provisional information from the 1971 Census of Distribution for Great Britain together with information from the 1965 Census of Distribution for Northern Ireland suggest a total in the United Kingdom of around 23,000 shops belonging to independent greengrocers and fruiterers, including those selling fish. Independents are defined as traders with fewer than 10 shops.I have no reason to believe that any special measures are necessary to enable small independent greengrocers to continue to fulfil their useful distributive function. Their access to supplies has been improved as a result of the programme of redevelopment of major wholesale horticultural markets for which grant has been provided by my Department.

Fatstock Guaranteed Prices

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, in view of the situation facing United Kingdom livestock farmers, he will reintroduce immediately a fatstock guarantee price for the whole of the livestock industry.

Guaranteed prices continue to apply for fat sheep and fat pigs. The guaranteed price for fat cattle was ended a year ago by the previous administration and I have no present proposals for its reintroduction.

Water Charges

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware of the impact which the increased water charges will have on farm costs; and if he will take appropriate action in this matter.

I am aware that there will be increases in water charges following the introduction of new scales by the water authorities. These increases will be taken into account at the next Annual Review.

Feeding Stuffs (Costs)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what impact the rise of between 25 per cent. and 30 per cent. in the cost of animal feeds has had upon the White Paper calculation on the profitability of the farming industry;(2) in view of the fall in market prices to livestock farmers, and the rise in the cost of all agricultural inputs, what revision should now be made in the White Paper forecasts for the viability of the industry.

There is no reason to alter significantly the estimates of aggregate cost increases for feeding stuffs in 1973–74 given in the 1974 Annual Review White Paper which included estimates of additional cost increases arising from price rises notified after the formal calculations were made. As for the profitability or viability of the farming industry, many factors affect the calculations of the net income of the industry, and it is not practicable at this stage to make a full reassessment of the forecasts for 1973–74 contained in the White Paper.

Tractors Miss

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is aware that new tractor prices have risen by approximately £1,000 over the past year; and what impact he considers this rise in implement costs has had upon his calculation on farm costs and investment.

These increases are in relation to large tractors which are a small proportion of all tractors sold in the United Kingdom. I recognise their effect on the individual purchaser, but they represent only a small amount of the aggregate farm costs.

Subsidies

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will set out the items covered by the subsidy to fanners of £100 million he has stated that they receive.

Following are the figures:

Approximate Total Expenditure in a Full Year
£ million
Hill Cow Subsidy23·5
Beef Cow Subsidy10·0
Calf Subsidy27·0
Extra £10 Calf Subsidy and Northern Ireland Beef Marketing Subsidy38·0
£98·5million

Fertilisers

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware that fertilisers (20:10:10) are now double the January price per ton; and if he will take steps designed to ensure that farmers will have the means to purchase this agricultural input.

Manufacturers' prices for fertiliser 20:10:10 were nationally quoted as £50 per ton in January 1974, and the current price is £62 per ton. My right hon. Friend has not yet completed his consideration of representations made by the farmers' unions against the decision of the previous administration to terminate the fertiliser subsidy.

Rate Support Grant

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what impact he considers the alteration in the rate support grant available to local authorities in rural areas has had upon farm costs.

The changes in the levels of rate support grant will have had little impact on farm costs since farmers pay no rates in respect of their agricultural land and buildings. The rates they pay on their dwelling-houses have altered but the effect will vary from area to area.

Brucellosis

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what are his plans for the extension of the brucellosis eradication programme; and if he will make a statement.

Of the estimated 164.000 or so herds in Great Britain containing animals which are testable for brucellosis, 88,137—nearly 54 per cent.—are now participating in the voluntary and compulsory brucellosis schemes. The participation rate in terms of cattle is even higher, with 59 per cent, of all testable animals now in compulsory or voluntary scheme herds. Apart from Scotland, for which proposals for eradication in 1975 have already been announced, compulsory and voluntary eradication progress has continued well in Wales. The large areas in Wales scheduled for compulsory eradication in November this year means that the veterinary staff will be fully utilised for 1975. With this in mind, I have decided that compulsory eradication should be extended only to the western part of the old county of Denbighshire on 1st November 1975. In England, eradication has already been scheduled to start in Essex and Cambridgeshire on 4th November of this year. I have now decided that eradication can be extended to the remainder of Cumbria, the counties of Bedford and Hertford, and the eastern part of Devon and northwest Somerset, all areas where voluntary scheme progress has been good. Eradication will accordingly start in these areas on 1st November 1975. The rate of progress for compulsory eradication is governed by the availability of veterinary staff, and the additional programme of compulsory eradication that I have outlined is the maximum that we can undertake at this stage, having regard to my other responsibilities for animal health matters. I must of course make it clear that the progress of brucellosis eradication must continue to be subject to any demands on staff caused by further outbreaks of epidemic or exotic disease, the fight against which must always be given priority.

Letter Threats

asked the Attorney-General whether he will refer to the Director of Public Prosecutions, with a view to prosecution for the publication of a threatening letter, the persons whose names have been supplied to him.

I shall ask the Director of Public Prosecutions to consider whether there is enough evidence to justify police inquiries.

Education And Science

Students (Local Authority Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will introduce legislation to provide for local authority grants to students attending full-time residential adult education colleges to be made mandatory.

The Russell Committee on Adult Education proposed that students accepted for a course at a long-term residential college should receive mandatory awards. My right hon. Friend wishes to complete his study of the committee's report before taking decisions on individual recommendations.

Handicapped Children

the Secretary of State for Education and Science what estimate he has of the number of mentally handicapped children over the age of five years who are not receiving full-time education because of the lack of suitable school places for them.

The number of ESN (Severe) children reported by LEAs to be awaiting admission to special schools will be available for the first time later this year. Returns to the Department of

RESIDENTIAL SPECIAL SCHOOLS
Name of schoolNumber of placesAge-range and Sex
Donnington Lodge School, Oxford Road, Donnington, Nr. Newbury163–16 Boys and Girls
The Walnuts School, Simpson, Bletchley, Bucks.85–14 Boys and Girls
Rees Thomas School, Hawkins Road, Cambridge124–16 Boys and Girls
Alderbrook School, Buxton Road, Chinley, Stockport222–16 Boys and Girls
Abbeyfield School, Abbey Road, Pilton, Barnstaple, Devon285–16 Boys and Girls
Downham School, Horn Lane, Plymstock, Plymouth185–16 Boys and Girls

Health and Social Security by hospital authorities for 1972 showed that some 1,500 children in hospitals for the men-tally handicapped were not receiving any education, which was over 1,000 less than in the previous year.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are the facilities for grammar school education for the deaf available in England; and if he will obtain and publish comparable information for Scotland and Wales.

The Mary Hare Grammar School in Berkshire caters for about 180 hearing-impaired boys and girls. Burwood Park School in Surrey provides secondary education with a technical bias for some 50 boys of more than average ability. Both are boarding schools and admit pupils from any part of the country who satisfy the admission requirements. My right hon. Friend understands that there are not selective secondary schools for the deaf in Scotland or Wales, but suitable Scottish and Welsh pupils are accepted at the two English schools.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list in the OFFICIAL REPORT the residential schools which cater for primary children who are born spastic, are severely mentally retarded, and suffer from other handicaps such as partial hearing or blindness.

Residential schools which are known to cater for children of primary age who are spastic, ESN (Severe) and have further handicaps are listed below. In addition, some other schools for physically handicapped children and many hospital schools may accept children with such combinations of handicaps. It is however impossible to say whether a child is suitable for a particular school without a careful and comprehensive assessment of his or her needs.

Oaklands Park School, Oaklands Park, Dawlish415–16 Boys and Girls
Limmington House School, St. Michael's Road, Basingstoke205–16 Boys and Girls
Parkfield School, Parkfield Road, Folkestone243–16 Boys and Girls
Stone Bay School, Stone Road, Broadstairs243–16 Boys and Girls
Sandon School, Sandon Close, Sandon Road, Grantham205–16 Boys and Girls
St. Bernard's School, Wood Lane, Louth184–16 Boys and Girls
Barndale House School, Howling Lane, Alnwick325–16 Boys and Girls
Robert Clive School, Hearne Way, Off Woodcote Way, Shrewsbury403–16 Boys and Girls
Fiveways School, llchester Road, Yeovil, Somerset222–16 Boys and Girls
Hazel Court School, Hazel Court, Shinewater Lane, Eastbourne153–16 Boys and Girls
Driffield School, Victoria Road, Driffield205–16 Boys and Girls
St. Francis De Sales School, 2 Beach Road, Hayling Island,Hampshire505–16 Boys
Mclntyre School, Westoning Manor, Westoning, Bedford245–16 Boys and Girls
Ravenswood Village Centre, Crowthorne, Berks502–18 Boys and Girls
Redcourt School, Hollincross Lane, Glossop, Derbyshire305–16 Boys and Girls
Southwood School, Holbrook, Derby183–16 Boys and Girls
Roffey House School, Horsham, Sussex367–16Boys
Sunfield Childrcns Home, Clent, Stourbridge, Worcs934–19 Boys and Girls
Manchester District School for Jewish Handicapped Children, Laskir House, Smedley Lane, Cheetham M/C8182–16 Boys and Girls
Mclntyre Schools Ltd., Mount Tabor Crescent, Wingrave, Bucks303–16 B0ys and Girls
Deans Farm School, Baveridge House, Cranborne, Dorset168–16 Boys and Girls
Farmhill House School, Paganhill, Strand246.11 Boys and Girls
Sheiling Curative Schools, Thornbury, Bristol696–18 Boys and Girls
St. Christophers School, Bristol 61625–16 Boys and Girls
Sheiling Curative Schools, Ringwood, Hants686–18 Boys and Girls
Meldreth Manor, Meldreth, Nr. Royston, Herts1207–16 Boys and Girls
Irons Hall School, Holmbrook, Cumberland625–16 Boys and Girls
The Wilfred Pickles School for Spastics, Auddington, Stanford, Lines685–14 Boys and Girls
Ingfield Manor School, Billingshurst, Sussex557–16 Boys and Girls
Hawksworth Hall, Guisley, Nr. Leeds295–11 Boys and Girls

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress has been made towards the establishment of regional councils to study comprehensive services for all hearing-impaired children; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is proposing to promote during the first half of 1975 a series of regional conferences at which local education authorities will be invited to consider, with the voluntary bodies concerned, the needs for all types of handicapped children within their region. The aim is to stimulate regional planning of special schools and other educational services, particularly for handicaps—such as hearing impairment —with a comparatively low incidence.

Comprehensive Education

My right hon. Friend has already indicated that he expects local education authorities and the governors of voluntary schools to secure the abolition of selection at all stages of secondary education. The only criterion for admission to a course at 16 years should be the pupil's ability to benefit from it.

Agoraphobia

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a special grant for research into agoraphobia.

The Medical Research Council already supports studies on agoraphobia at its Unit for Epidemiological Studies in Psychiatry, Edinburgh, and is giving long-term grant support to a clinical trial on the treatment of phobic disorders at the Warneford Hospital, Oxford and for therapeutic studies of resistant neuroses, including phobias, at the Institute of Psychiatry, London.The council is also carrying out basic neurobiological studies which may throw light on the problems of agoraphobia. Other relevant research is being carried out in university departments with support from University Grants Committee funds.

Truancy

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the rate of truancy in primary and secondary schools in the Inner London area during each of the last five years; and if he will list the schools that are worst affected.

This information is not available, but the Department's present investigations into truancy include a statistical return from authorities relating to absence in secondary and middle schools on a day in January this year.

School Building

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will publish the school building projects in the Sandwell metropolitan area already approved and those under consideration for 1974–75 and subsequent years.

Five major school building projects have been approved to start in the building year 1973–74, namely:Rowley Regis Boys' County Secondary school, Warley.Christ Church of England (Aided) Primary school, Warley.Blakeley Special school, Warley.Stuart Bathurst Roman Catholic (Aided) High school, West Bromwich.Menzies High School, West Bromwich.The allocation of resources for major school projects to start during 1974–75 has yet to be made, but under the terms of Circular 15/73 only major school building projects to meet basic needs for additional places and for special schools will be eligible for approval. There are two such projects in Sandwell. namely:Dartmouth County High school.Shireland County Secondary school.A third project at the Montague Road County Primary School is only partly justified on the ground of basic need. I cannot yet say whether this project will be able to proceed. On the other hand, the authority has been informed that it may, exceptionally, proceed with the replacement of the Holy Trinity Church of England Primary School which was destroyed by fire.Arrangements for the 1975–76 building year are still being considered.

The allocation to individual projects of resources made available for minor works is a matter for local education authorities.

Education Costs

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what would be the cost to the Treasury if education costs now met by local authorities were transferred to the central Government.

In 1974–75, an estimated £1,240 million at 1974 survey prices.

School Leaving Age

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what recent representations he has received on the consequences of the decision to raise the school leaving age; what action he is taking to monitor the effects in each area; and what policy he has to ensure that pupils receive the maximum benefit.

My right hon. Friend has received a number of requests, to which he has not been able to accede, to exempt individual pupils in one way or another from the requirements of the existing legislation. It is primarily for local education authorities and teachers to observe the effects of raising the school leaving age and to enable pupils to receive maximum benefit from the extension of secondary schooling. My Department, the Schools Council and Her Majesty's inspectors have provided guidance on making good use of this opportunity and my right hon. Friend is watching developments.

Business Studies (University Departments)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many departments of business studies there are in universities in the United Kingdom; and how many are planned to be opened in the next five years.

There are 25, including separate institutions or centres. There are no plans at present for establishing new departments, but provision has been made in the 1972–77 quinquennium for a substantially faster rate of expansion of places in business studies than the average rate of growth for university places as a whole.

Energy

Night Storage Heaters

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is his estimate of the number of households in the United Kingdom using night storage electricity heaters.

The number is not precisely known, but it is estimated to be about 2 million at the present time.

Nuclear Reactors

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he is now in a position to make a statement on the Government's decision on nuclear reactors.

No. I expect to announce the Government's decision on reactor choice within the next few weeks.

Gas And Oil Reserves

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what proportion of gross domestic product the Government plan to commit to the development of Great Britain's gas and oil reserves in the next five years.

Forecasts of gross domestic products are not available and I cannot therefore give the figures for which the hon. Member asks.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if his Department will publish a strategic plan for the development of British oil and gas reserves.

My right hon. Friend has no plans for such a publication. However, the hon. Member will be aware of the 1974 report on production and reserves, published today, and of my right hon. Friend's intention to make a statement to the House when the current policy review is complete.

Energy Supplies

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what proportion of Great Britain's energy requirements in each of the next 10 years his Department estimates will be supplied by oil, gas, coal and nuclear sources, respectively.

My Department is constantly assessing future developments in the demand for and supply of energy in its various forms. However, very great uncertainties surround many aspects of the energy field at present and forecasts could be very misleading. I do not therefore consider that detailed forecasts of the kind the hon. Member requests would be meaningful.

Environment

Parliamentary Building

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received from the Greater London Council about the proposed new parliamentary building; what was the nature of those representations; and what reply he has sent.

The chairman of the planning committee has very recently written to me about the features of the proposed building to which the council objects. I have not yet had time to consider my reply.

Motorways (Land Compensation Act 1973)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many requests have been made for compensation under the Land Compensation Act 1973 in relation to motorway noise.

1,244 claims for compensation for depreciation in value arising from noise and other factors have been received in respect of motorways for which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State is responsible.

Driving Licences (Foreigners)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what evidence he has that overseas visitors, having failed the British driving test after 12 months' stay in Great Britain, make a day trip across the Channel, thus qualifying for a further 12–months' test-free driving on British roads; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend has no such evidence. There are international conventions, to which the United Kingdom is a party, governing the recognition of driving permits held by temporary visitors.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many overseas visitors, having used British roads without a British driving licence, subsequently failed the driving test in the last year for which figures are available.

I regret that this information is not available and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the estimated number of overseas visitors driving on British roads without a British driving licence.

Rate Rebates

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will provide Government grants for 100 per cent. of the cost of rate rebate schemes in those areas where his reduction of the domestic rate subsidy has created additional increases in the rates of more than 10 per cent.

The domestic element of the rate support grant has been increased everywhere in England from 6p to 13p in the pound.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what estimate he has made of the number of ratepayers who will benefit from the rate rebate scheme, and of the anticipated number of ratepayers who will eventually apply.

I estimate that over 4 million ratepayers are eligible and I shall not be satisfied until all who are eligible have applied.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the amount of money spent on publicity for the rate rebate scheme in the local Press, the national Press, and radio and television.

The following is the information:

National press……£93,600
Local press……£23,400
Radio……Nil
Television……£70,900
Publications……£33,500

These sums represent central Government expenditure: local authorities have also publicised the scheme but I cannot quantify their expenditure.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proposals he has for further publicity of the rate rebate scheme.

A further campaign of posters and newspaper advertising will take place in the late summer at an estimated cost of over £200,000.

River Trent

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has for the improvement of the amenities of the River Trent, particularly along the stretch of the river which passes through Burton-on-Trent.

Such plans are a local responsibility. I welcome the steps which I understand those responsible are taking or planning to enhance the environment of the river through Burton-on-Trent, to improve water quality and to develop recreation along the whole length of the river.

Avon Bridge(Announcement)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will write

By Secretary of StateBy Inspectors
After inquiryBy written representationsAfter inquiryBy written representations
Appeals decided in:
April 1971………43353131
April 1972………46423231
April 1973………56504136
April 1974………79566134

Water Service Charges

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to enable him to intervene in the decisions of the water authorities on the levels of water service charges which they propose to levy.

I would refer the hon. Member to my answer on 15th May to the hon. Member for Ripon (Dr. Hampson).—[Vol. 873, c. 488.]

Rate Support Grant

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the reduction in the rate support grant pay- to the hon. Member for Somerset, North in similar terms to those in which he wrote to the hon. Member for Bristol, South announcing the opening of the Avon Bridge and apologising to his constituents for inconvenience; and if he will publish this letter in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

A letter on this subject was sent to the hon. Member on the same day as the letter to my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol, South (Mr. Cocks), which was in reply to one he had written to me. I readily sympathise with the hon. Member's constituents, and all others affected, for the noise and congestion suffered while we have been waiting for the completion of the bridge.

Planning Appeals

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the average delay in obtaining the result of an appeal to his Department against refusal of planning permission by a local authority; and how this compares with the delay at the same time last year and in 1971 and 1972.

Below are figures showing the average time in weeks taken between the receipt of a planning appeal and the decision on it for appeals decided in the month of April in the years 1971 to 1974:able to the West Oxfordshire District Council arising from his decision to substitute a flat rate element for the previously proposed variable element; and what was the reduction in domestic rate element expressed as pence in the pound.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what has been the reduction in rate support grant payable to the Sedgemoor District Council arising from his decision to substitute a flat rate element for the previously proposed variable element; and what was the reduction in domestic rate element expressed as pence in the pound;

(2)what has been the reduction in rate support grant payable to the West Somerset District Council arising from his decision to substitute a flat rate element for previously proposed variable element; and what was the reduction in domestic rate element expressed as pence in the pound.

Sedgemoor District Council, about £415,000 and 8p. West Somerset District Council, about £108,000 and 5–5p.

North-West Region (Economic Development Plans)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the plans relating to the economic development of the North-West that have been published by Government Departments and official bodies since 1945.

The following list of plans and reports includes some that relate to specific industries of the region as well as those about the North-West Region as a whole:

1946"A Working Party Report: Cotton "(Board of Trade).
1949"A Regional Survey of the North-West Coalfield "(Ministry of Fuel and Power).
1959"Reorganisation of the Cotton Industry "(Board of Trade).
1965"The North-West. A Regional Study"(Department of Economic Affairs).
1966"An Economic Planning Strategy for the North-West Region"(North-West Economic Planning Council).
"An Industrial Policy for the North-West"(Lancashire and Merseyside Industrial Development Association).
1968"Strategy II: The North-West of the 1970's"(North-West Economic Planning Council).
1974"Strategic Plan for the North-West"(SPNW Joint Planning Team Report 1973).

Motor Coaches

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment to what extent passenger-carrying motor coaches embody in their design and construction up-to-date safety devices; whether the provision of structural members similar to those known as roll-over bars for protecting passengers in accidents involving overturning of the vehicle are a prerequisite to the granting of a public service vehicle licence; and if he will make a statement.

Safety requirements for passenger-carrying motor coaches are prescribed in the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1973 and the Certificate of Fitness, Equipment and Use, Regulations 1972. All public service vehicles are checked for compliance with these regulations in the course of examination for a certificate of fitness. All types of such vehicles are also subject to a tilt test which calls for stability of a high order. Proposals are under discussion internationally for a test to establish the roof strength of passenger-carrying vehicles.

Residential Caravans

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will consider making special financial provision available for those who are purchasing a caravan for residential purposes, as this investment does not qualify for income tax relief.

No special financial provision appears to be necessary for purchasers of caravans for residential purposes in view of the reply given to the hon. Member for Falmouth and Camborne (Mr. Mudd) on 10th April 1974 by my hon. Friend the Financial Secretary to the Treasury.—[Vol. 872, c. 227.]

Public Transport (Wheelchair Facilities)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will consider introducing legislation to require new public transport vehicles to be so designed as to make provision for carrying wheelchairs.

No, because bus design inevitably involves compromise between competing requirements. I am sending my hon. Friend my Department's circular about the problems of the disabled traveller on public transport.

Sport And Leisure

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his policy towards the implementation of the recommendations contained in the House of Lords Select Committee on Sport and Leisure; and what steps have been taken in that regard.

Many of the recommendations of these very useful reports are of course directed to local authorities and national agencies and I am sure they have found much value in them. As for those recommendations of Government concern, my Department has the major interest in matters of sport and leisure, and I am preparing a statement of policy which will be published during the summer.

Local Government (Staffing)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has received the report from the LAMSAC on the level of staffing and salaries of the new local authorities; and if he will make a statement on his policy towards its conclusions.

Not yet. This inquiry is being conducted by the Local Authorities' Conditions of Service Advisory Board and my right hon. Friend hopes to receive its report soon.

Lorry Parks

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what funds have been made available over each of the last five years to local authorities in England and Wales for the building or improving of lorry parks.

Cement

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will agree to meet the Scottish section of the Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors to discuss ways of containing the increase in cement prices in Scotland.

The increases in the price of cement which have been allowed by the Price Commission in respect of individual cement manufacturers are no higher in Scotland than elsewhere in the United Kingdom, and in the circumstances I do not think a meeting of this kind could be helpful.

Central Lancashire New Town

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will ensure that there is sufficient time between publication of the outline plan for the Central Lancashire New Town and the public inquiry for objectors to study the plan and prepare their evidence.

I am satisfied that the arrangements set out in my answer on 1st May to my hon. Friend the Member for Preston, South (Mr. Thorne) will give sufficient time.—[Vol. 872, c. 467.]

Rent Allowances

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will amend the model regulations for rent allowances to bring married couples under 30 years of age and without children within the scope of the provisions.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Bosworth (Mr. Butler) on 7th May.—[Vol. 873, c. 106.]

Ordnance Survey Maps

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proposals the Ordnance Survey has for publishing further 2^-inch maps (1:25,000) in Countryside Leisure Maps series, such as those published for the Three Peaks and the Dark Peak.

The Ordnance Survey is publishing in June an outdoor leisure map of part of the Cairngorms and later this summer a set of four outdoor leisure maps covering most of the Lake District National Park; all five maps are at the 1:25,000 scale.

Rates

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to make loans available to local authorities in cases of exceptional rate increases.

No; it would be wrong to make ratepayers in future years pay for current expenditure.

Heavy Lorries (Weight Limits)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is aware of the continuing concern at the use of British roads by heavy lorries from Europe; what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government with regard to limiting weights and routes; and if he will make a statement.

All continental lorries entering this country must comply with United Kingdom regulations on maximum width, length, and axle and gross weight and the enforcement effort is being increased. I will continue to resist strenuously the EEC proposals for higher weights. I have announced my intention of issuing soon a consultation document on lorry routes, which would apply to continental as well as to British lorries.

A46, Newark

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will take action to speed up his decision to define the route of the A46 through Newark in view of the delay likely to be caused to the local authorities and others with regard to town planning proposals which will be delayed until his decision is known.

Alternative routes for a proposed relief road for Newark will be made available for public comment at an exhibition to be held in Newark this summer.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what decision he has arrived at with regard to the proposal to lift the statutory speed restrictions on the A46 in the Newark area.

None yet. In reaching a decision my right hon. Friend will take full account of my hon. Friend's representations.

Dangerous Chemicals (Transport)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he proposes to take to control the transport of dangerous chemicals by road and rail; and if he is satisfied with the present regulations concerning action to be taken in accidents where such chemicals are involved.

The Health and Safety at Work etc. Bill will give additional controls to those available under current legislation for the transport of dangerous chemicals by all modes of transport.Present arrangements with accidents involving emergency cards such as the TREMCARD are well known to industry and the emergency services. My right hon. Friend the Home Secretary is now examining a new scheme for improving the rapid identification of dangerous chemicals travelling by road which should help speed up effective emergency action following an accident. A similar scheme is also under consideration by British Rail.

Railways

asked the Secretary of of State for the Environment if, in his review of British Rail policy, he will consider extending the use of railways in the light of forecasts of the increased use of roads by heavy vehicles from the Continent.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer given to the hon. Member for West Bromwich, East (Mr. Snape) on 3rd April.—[Vol. 871, c. 378.] These forecasts are being taken into account.

Road Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in his estimate of the cost of road accidents in 1973 including loss of life, medical treatment, loss of output, administrative costs, damage to property, etc.; and how many persons were killed, and injured seriously, and otherwise.

The estimated cost of road accidents for 1973 is about £615 million. The total number of casualties was 353,700, of which 7,410 were fatal, 89,400 seriously injured and 256,900 slightly injured.

Disabled Persons (Access To Buildings)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that the requirements of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 relating to the provision of facilities for wheelchairs in public buildings are not being restricted by fire and safety regulations; and if he will inquire into these aspects.

It is not always easy to reconcile the need to maintain public safety with the requirements of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970 relating to access for the disabled. Means of achieving this aim are constantly being sought, but where such reconciliation is not possible the safety of the public must prevail. If my hon. Friend has any particular problem in mind, perhaps he will write to me.

Public Bodies (Members' Interests)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what advice he has given to local authorities and other public bodies regarding the declaration of interest by members having an interest in matters coming before the authorities; and what action he takes to ensure that the advice is noted.

The public bodies for which I am responsible are of many types, with different functions and constitutions. No single rule as to the declaration of interests applies to them, and it has not been considered appropriate to give general advice to their members.So far as local authorities are concerned, requirements in this respect are statutory, being contained chiefly in Part V of the Local Government Act 1972. Advice which has been given to local authorities from time to time has explained the statutory requirements and the policy regarding dispensation to speak or vote where a pecuniary interest exists. The most recent advice was contained in a circular dated 3rd September 1973 (Department of the Environment 105/73, Welsh Office 202/73). Enforcement is a matter for the Director of Public Prosecutions and the police.

Construction Industry (Self-Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made by the Working Party on Self-Employment in the Construction Industry; and when the report will be available.

Progress is being made and my right hon. Friend hopes to receive a report before long.

Central Housing Advisory Committee

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many times the Central Housing Advisory Committee met in 1973, and to the latest available date in 1974; what reports were produced by working parties or sub-committees in that period; how many subcommittees have been set up since 1st March 1974; and what is their future programme of work.

Since the beginning of 1973 the Central Housing Advisory Committee has met once, in July of last year. No reports were produced in this period and no sub-committees have been set up. The committee has no set programme of work, but the Government are considering the future role of the committee.

Matthew-Skillington Report

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has yet received the Matthew-Skillington Report on the architectural role of his Department; and whether he will make a statement.

I have received the report and I expect to be making a statement in due course.

British Rail (Rule Book)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has held any meetings with British Rail and the unions concerned to discuss the revision of the rule book; and if he will make a statement.

M25 And M23 Motorways

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects the sections of the M25 and M23 motorways now under construction to be completed.

The contracts provide for completion of the M23 between Hooley and Pease Pottage in August, and of the Reigate-Godstone section of the M25 with the Merstham motorway interchange in November. A request by the contractor for a short extension of time on the M23 works is being considered.

Oil Refineries (South-East Essex)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he was first informed that negotiations between Occidental Refineries Limited and United Refineries Limited to build a single joint refinery on Canvey Island to which he referred in his statement of 8th May were taking place; whether he was so informed by both companies or by one; and whether any indication was given that a time limit was being set for the completion of the negotiations.

With regard to the negotiations between Occidental Refineries Ltd. and United Refineries Ltd., I have nothing further to add to my reply on 8th May to the hon Member.—[Vol. 873, c. 157.] Timing is a matter for the two oil companies concerned.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the anxieties expressed to him by the hon. Member for Essex, South-East, the local authorities and amenity groups concerned about the impact of oil refinery development on the environment of South-East Essex, he will discuss with Occidental Refineries Limited the question of the desirability from the point of view of the public interest of proceeding further with the construction of its refinery until such outstanding matters as the proposal to merge the two refineries proposed for Canvey Island and his own decision in regard to a third refinery at Cliffe have been resolved.

I have nothing to add to the reply I gave the hon. Member on 16th May.—[Vol. 873, c. 505.]

Industrial Development (Thames Estuary)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the rejection by the House of Commons of the Burmah Total Refinery Bill, he will now reconsider his decision not to proceed with an interdepartmental inquiry into the economic, social and environmental implications of industrial development in the Thames Estuary, with particular reference to the proliferation of oil refineries in or near to Canvey Island.

Council House Building (Direct Labour)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, pursuant to his answer to the hon. Member for Melton on 10th April 1974, he will list the local authorities which received loan sanction to build houses by direct labour in 1973, naming the scheme in Vol. 874 each case, and indicating in each case the value of the work involved and the number of houses; and whether he will give the same information to the latest convenient date in 1974.

I will arrange to have the information available to the Department circulated in the OFFICIAL REPORT.

Anglia Water Authority

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list all paid officials of the Anglian Water Authority, giving their present salaries and also their previous salaries and the names of the local authority where they were previously engaged in local government.

These appointments are wholly the responsibility of the water authority.

Severn-Trent Regional Water Authority

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will publish the names and qualifications of the members of the Severn-Trent Regional Water Authority, together with details of their salaries or fees payable from public funds.

The Chairman is Sir William Dugdale, Bt, MC, JP, DL, solicitor, formerly member of Warwickshire County Council and Chairman of the Trent River Authority.The following members were appointed by the Secretary of State for the Environment:Mr. E. J. Franklin, Alderman, Birmingham CB; Member, Trent River Authority; Chairman, Upper Tame Main Drainage Authority.Mr. J. O. Grieves, C.Eng, FIMech.E, Head of Policy Development Branch, CEGB; Member, Trent River Authority; Member, Central Advisory Water Committee.Mr. W. L. Sims, OBE, Chairman/Managing Director, Wadkin Ltd., Leicester.Mr. J. K. B. Howell, FIMTA, DPA, FSS, Treasurer, Warwickshire County Council.Mr. Ian J. Wallace, CBE, Member, West Midlands Economic Planning Council, Chairman, Coventry Chamber of Commerce, Chairman, West Midlands branch of CBI.Mr. Randall H. Taylor, BSc, FICE, former General Manager, South Staffordshire Water Company.Mrs. K. P. Waudby, OBE, JP, Chairman, British Steam Specialities Ltd.

Mrs. Dilys Moye, Landscape Planner.

Mr. T. Rees-Jones, Senior Chemist, Courtaulds Ltd., Coventry.

Professor J. C. Holliday, Head of Department of Town Planning, Manchester Polytechnic, Coventry.

Mr. F. M. Baker, Director, Harborough Marine Ltd.; Member, Inland Waterways Amenity Advisory Council.

Mr. P. Galliford, Managing Director, Galliford Brindley Ltd., Hinckley.

Mr. P. L. Marriott, BA, FRICS, Chartered Surveyor; Agent for Earl of Powys at Powys Castle; Member, Welsh National Water Development Authority.

The following members were appointed by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food:

Mr. F. A. Jennings, President, National Federation of Anglers; President, Birmingham Anglers Association; member, Severn Anglers and Trent District Anglers Consultative Associations; member, Salmon and Trout Association; vice-chairman, National Anglers Council.

Mr. C. G. Hawthorne, BSs., Land drainage member, Trent River Authority; vice-chairman, Newark Area Internal Drainage Board; member, Agricultural Land Tribunal.

Mr. G. W. Hart, NDA, NDD, JP, Agricultural member, Trent River Authority; member, Elford Internal Drainage Board; governor, Staffordshire College of Agriculture.

Mr. J. Lloyd Hughes, Dip. Agric, JP, Land drainage member, Severn River Authority; chairman, Powys Lands Internal Drainage Board.

The following members were nominated by local authorities:

Mr. W. E. Jarvis and Mr. T. McLatchie, West Midlands Metropolitan County Council.

Mr. G. R. Simmons, OBE, and Mrs. J. E.

Beddoes, West Midlands Metropolitan District Councils.

Mr. J. J. Carty, Derbyshire County Council.

Mr. F. C. Peacock, Derbyshire District Councils.

Mr. W. K. Fisher, Gloucestershire County Council.

Mr. F. J. Chambcrlayne, Gloucestershire District Councils.

Mr. J. C. Cadbury, Hereford and Worcester County Council.

Mr. A. H. Humphries, Hereford and Worcester District Councils.

Mr. J. Rodgers, Leicestershire County Council.

Mr. E. Marston, Leicestershire District Councils.

Mr. B. Simms, Nottinghamshire District Councils.

Mr. L. Lees, Nottinghamshire District Councils.

Mr. J. W. Griffiths, Powys County Council.

Mr. C. A. Hopkinson, Powys District Councils.

Mr. E. C. J. Whittingham, Salop County Council.

Mr. T. G. Ryder, Salop District Councils.

Mr. H. Smallwood, Staffordshire County Council.

Mr. C. J. Tunnicliffe, Staffordshire District Councils.

Mr. R. B. Kettle, Warwickshire County Council.

Mr. T. J. Nott, Warwickshire District Councils.

The chairman receives a salary of £7,500 a year and Mr. Hart, chairman of the regional land drainage committee, £1,000 a year. Other members are unpaid but are entitled to allowances for travel and for attending water authority meetings etc.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Rhodesia

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make representations to the Rhodesian regime with a view to securing the release of Rhodesian political prisoners; and whether he will make provisions in the United Kingdom for the maintenance of the families of these detained prisoners.

Successive British Governments have pressed the Rhodesian authorities to release detainees or bring them to trial. From time to time some have been released, and several of these have come to this country. As to dependants, it seems likely that most of them would be reluctant to leave their relatives detained in Rhodesia and come to this country themselves. However, if individuals wished to do so, I am sure that their cases would be sympathetically considered by my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary, having regard to the usual criteria for entry to this country.

Home Department

Penal System (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he will publish the report on the Advisory Council on the Penal System on young adult offenders; and if he will make a statement.

The report, which was commissioned by my right hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff, South-East (Mr. Callaghan) when he was Home Secretary, was submitted to my predecessor last November. It is being published today. The House will be indebted to the members of the advisory council for undertaking this most thoughtful and illuminating review, and I would like to express my personal thanks to them.The report comprehensively surveys the existing methods for the treatment of offenders aged from 17 to 21. Its theme is that increasing emphasis should now be placed, in the arrangements for dealing with young adult offenders, on treatment within the community. The council pays tribute to the achievements of those who have devoted themselves to work in borstals and detention centres, but endorses some of the doubts which have been expressed about the philosophy underlying the present system. It also examines the difficulties seen by the courts in the present statutory restraints on their powers to impose custodial sentences of certain kinds and duration. The council's main recommendations are: the replacement of the existing custodial sentences by a new sentence of "custody and control", enabling offenders to be released as soon as appropriate to supervision in the community; the amalgamation of the existing custodial establishments into a single, unified system, with greater emphasis

MURDERS OF CHILDREN AGED 16 YEARS AND UNDER
TotalMurdered by parentsMurdered by close relative
NumberPer cent.NumberPer cent.
1971………403280——
1972………27134827
Note: The totals are of the latest corrected figures known to the police and include some murders so far unsolved: two for 1971 and five for 1972. "Parent" includes step-parent and cohabitant of parent.

Industry

Telecommunications

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the capital expenditure of the Post Office on telecommunications in each of the past 10 years, the estimated expenditure in the current year and so far as details are available the future programme.

The figures for the 10 years to 1972–73 appear in the Post Office's published accounts for that year. For later years the most recent available information is contained in the White Paper on Public Expenditure to 1977–78 (Cmnd 5519), as modified in consequence of the general reduction imposed on 17th December 1973 by the Chancellor. sis on contacts with the offender's home area and a simplified process of allocating offenders to establishments; and a new form of non-custodial supervisory sentence.I welcome the council's broad approach, and in the coming months I shall be giving close consideration to its detailed proposals, in consultation with the prison and the probation and after-care services and' with a number of organisations known to have a strong interest in this field. I shall also be glad to take account of comments from other quarters.

Child Murders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what were the figures for the period of the last two years of murders of children of 16 years of age and under and where parents or close relatives were responsible; and what were the percentages of the total in each case.

Following is the information for England and Wales for 1971 and 1972, the latest years for which figures are available:

Subsidies

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will review the system of indiscriminate subsidy to private industry.

I have nothing at present to add to the statement made by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Department of Industry on 29th April— [Vol. 872, c. 347–8]—in which he referred to the continuance of existing regional incentives but explained that the Government would seek powers in the new Industry Bill to introduce a system of planning agreements with major companies.

Eec Businesses (Britain)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many concerns based in other EEC member States have indicated their intentions to set up or expand activities in Great Britain, since the United Kingdom's accession on 1st January 1973.

Unemployment (Liverpool)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will take special steps to alleviate the rate of unemployment in the Liverpool area, which is the third highest in England according to Department of Employment statistics.

As I said on 13th May in reply to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Ormskirk (Mr. Kilroy-Silk)—[Vol. 873, c. 312]—I am considering the case for upgrading Mersey-side to special development area status. I am also considering what other measures may be taken to reduce the unacceptably high rate of unemployment.

Machine Tools

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what action he has recently taken to assist the development of the machine tool industry; and if he will make a statement on future policy of Her Majesty's Government.

The problems of the machine tool industry and other industries are very much in mind in the formulation of proposals for implementing the Government's industrial policy.

Binder Twine

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he is aware that binder twine was approximately £155 per ton in 1973 and is now £680 per ton; and if he will take steps designed to reduce the price of this agricultural input.

I cannot reconcile the figures quoted with information available to my Department, but it is true that prices increased substantially—for sisal twine from £203 to £372, and for polypropylene twine from £362 to £517—as of April 1973 and 1974. The increases materials.

Newsprint

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his assessment regarding the future supply of newsprint in relation to future needs of the newspaper industry; and if he will take further steps to encourage the collection of waste paper by local authorities and other means in order to increase available stocks.

There may well be periods of newsprint scarcity such as obtains at present but I do not judge the likely effect to be crippling, especially in view of the self-help scheme organised by the United Kingdom Newsprint Users Committee. I am considering what contribution the Government can usefully make to a sustained increase in waste paper collection and usage.

Merseyside

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has reached a decision about the possible upgrading of Merseyside to special development area status; and if Southport is included in his consideration.

The area under consideration for special development area status is the Merseyside development area, which does not include Southport. No decision has yet been taken. In examining the case for Merseyside we shall naturally give full consideration to the implications for surrounding districts.

Sheriffs (Scotland)

asked the Lord Advocate if he will make a statement on the principles and practice regulating shrieval appointments in Scotland, and list the appointments in each of the last 10 years with the respective dates.

I have been asked to reply as appointments to the shrieval bench are made by Her Majesty on my recommendation.As is well known, the long-standing practice has been that I act upon a nomination from the Lord Advocate. The qualifications for appointment are laid down in the Sheriff Courts (Scotland) Act 1971.

The appointments over the last 10 years have been as follows: —

SHRIEVAL APPOINTMENTS FROM 16TH MAY 1964 TO DATE (EXCLUDING TEMPORARY SHERIFFS AND TRANSFERS BETWEEN SHERIFFDOMS

Sheriffdom

Sheriff Principal

Sheriff

Aberdeen, Kincardine and Banff
A. J. Mackenzie Stuart, Q.C.…1st October 1971—
G. S. Gimson, Q.C…12th June 1972—
M. J. A. Rose, D.F.C…—1st November 1968
T. M. Croan…—1st November 1969
A. M. G. Russell, Q.C…—1st May 1971
Ayr and Bute
R. H. McDonald, M.C., Q.C.…17th January 1966—
D.M.Ross, Q.C…1st January 1972—
R. Reid, Q.C…20th February 1973—
J.M.Shaw…—1st February I960
D. M. K. Grant…—1st October 1966
Caithness, Sutherland, Orkney and Zetland…
F. W. F. O'Brien, Q.C…1st May 1965—
Dumfries and Galloway
A. M. Johnston, Q.C…4th October 1966—
D. W. R. Brand, Q.C…17th June 1968—
P. Maxwell, Q.C…20th July 1970—
I. MacDonald, M.C., Q.C.…20th February 1973—
J. H. McCluskey, Q.C…24th December 1973—
W. I. R. Stewart, Q.C…22nd April 1974—
R. MacDonald…—22nd March 1965
G. C. Carmichael, Q.C…—21st September 1969
C. G. B. Nicholson…—1st April 1970
N. J. G. Ramsay…—7th January 1971
Fife and Kinross…
C. E. Jauncey, Q.C.…1st October 1971—
G. I. W. Shiach…—30th October 1972
Inverness, Moray, Nairn and Ross and Cromarty
S. O. Kermack…—1st June 1965
H. Lyons…—17th January 1966
M. Layden…—1st May 1971
W. R. M. Murdoch, C.B.E., D.S.C., V.R.D.…—1st July 1971
S. S. Robinson, M.B.E…—1st May 1972
Lanark…
D. Y. Abbey…—2nd November 1964
J. V. M. Shields, C.B.E., Q.C.…—2nd November 1964
P. G. B. McNeill…—22nd November 1965
N. E. D. Thomson.…—2nd May 1966
Miss I. L. Sinclair, Q.C…—24th October 1966
N. D. Macleod…—21st November 1967
J. J. Maguire…—9th January 1968
A. R. Mcllwraith…—18th December 1972
A. A. Bell, Q.C…—10th September 1973
A. L. Stewart…—1st October 1973
I. D. Michaela…—10th December 1973
Lothain and peebles
G. P. S. Shaw, Q.C…1st December 1965—
W. J. Bryden, C.B.E., Q.C…1st September 1973—
W. Mcllwraith…—1st October 1966
N. Macvicar…—1st November 1968
J. A. Dick, M.C., Q.C.…—1st October 1969
Perth and Angus…
G. L. Cox…—1st October 1968
Renfrew and Argyll
J. P. H. Mackay, Q.C.…12th June 1972—
D. D. T. Reid…—1st August 1967
W. C. Henderson…—1st October 1968
H. R. MacLean…—1st October 1968
Roxburgh, Berwick and Selkirk
R. S. Johnston, Q.C.…30th October 1964—
Hon. H. S. Keith, Q.C.…20th July 1970—
R. A. Bennett, Q.C.…1st October 1971—

Sheriffdom

Sheriff Principal

Sheriff

Stirling, Dunbarton and Clackmannan
R. R. Taylor, Q.C Ph.D……13th May 1971—
A. B. Wilkinson……—1st May 1969
J. C. M. Jardine……16th June 1969—
M. Stone……1st May 1971—
"Floating" Sheriffs
R. D. Ireland, Q.C.……—1st February 1972
J. C. Mclnnes……—19th July 1973
C. R. Macarthur, Q.C……—13th January 1974
I. L. M. Mitchell……—11th February 1974

NUMBER OF APPOINTMENTS

Year ended

Sheriff Principal

Sheriff

Total

15th May 1965…………235
15th May 1966…………257
15th May 1967…………134
15th May 1968…………033
15th May 1969…………167
5th May 1970…………055
15th May 1971…………235
5th May 1972…………639
5th May 1973…………426
5th May 1974…………369

House Of Commons

Statutory Instruments

asked the Lord President of the Council how many statutory instruments were made and laid before Parliament in 1973; what were the numbers subject to affirmative and negative procedures, respectively; and what estimate he has made of the number which will result from EEC membership in the current year.

At Aeir meetings in 1973, the scrutiny committees considered 53 instruments subject to affirmative procedure, 75 draft instruments subject to affirmative procedure, 571 instruments subject to negative procedure, 43 instruments (Northern Ireland) subject to negative procedure, 18 draft instruments subject to negative procedure and 46 instruments general in character and laid before one or both Houses.The number of instruments in the current year which will result from EEC membership cannot be reliably estimated but it is unlikely to exceed about 70. This figure includes about 40 tariff orders, most of which involve reductions in the level of import duties.

National Finance

Income Tax (Unearned Incomes)

asked the Chancellor of the Echequer what percentage of income tax was derived from unearned income in each of the years since 1969.

Income tax is assessed on the total income of individuals and there is no satisfactory basis for allocating tax between different types of income.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received since the issue of Customs and Excise Notice No. 708, under which demolition of houses and new construction is zero rated for VAT purposes, asking for the zero rating of repairs of listed buildings in order to encourage further listing and the proper maintenance of those so listed.

The hon. Member for Staffordshire, South-West (Mr. Cormack) asked a Question on 10th April. I can recall no other representations to me or my colleagues. I cannot, of course, answer about any which may have been sent to my predecessor.—[Vol. 872, c. 221.]

Prices And Consumer Protection

Water Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if she will ask the Price Commission to investigate the question of differences between the charges being made by the various water authorities in England and Wales.

The application of the Price Code is a matter for the Price Commission but I understand it is examining the levels of charges in a number of water authorities. The code applies to the circumstances of individual enterprises and it follows that comparisons between the levels of charges are not necessarily relevant.

Beef

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if she will take steps designed to ensure that a price nearer to the price to farmers for prime home-grown beef per lb. of 33–34p is available to the British housewife, instead of prices in excess of lOOp per lb. which she now has to pay.

The Price Commission's action in notifying a 10 per cent, cut in the gross profit margins of food distributors should be a useful contribution to reducing the disparity between producer and retail prices. This disparity covers such matters as the inevitable wastage in preparing carcases for retail sale, and labour, transport and other costs. I cannot accept, however, that the hon. Member's figures are representative of retail beef prices. The Price Commission includes meat prices in its regular monitoring of fresh food prices and this shows a wide range of prices for beef. For example, on 25th April the average price for rump steak was just under 91p per lb. and for the cheapest cut, brisket, just over 31p per lb.

Trade Directories

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what plans she has to seek to amend and strengthen the Unsolicited Goods Act in relation to trade directories.

I am currently examining certain problems in this field which have been brought to my attention, in order to see what amendment of the Act might be required to deal with them.

Scotland

School Milk

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he will be in a position to draw conclusions about the effects of the withdrawal of free milk from primary school pupils; and if he will undertake to make a statement at that time.

It will be some time before conclusions can be reached. A statement will be made then.

Toll Bridges

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the bridges in Scotland in regard to which it is his policy to continue to charge tolls and set out the revenue from tolls in each of the last three years or for the period from the date when tolls were first charged, whichever in each case is the earlier.

Tolls are charged in Scotland on the Forth, Tay and Erskine road bridges.The annual gross revenue from each bridge during each of the past three years was:

FourthTayErskine
£££
1971…1,203,912526,492134,816*
1972…1,315,112563,650300,273
1973…1,461,798642,618374,308
* 2nd July (opening date of bridge) to 31st December 1971.

Oil Rigs (Policing Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what expense has been occasioned to Scottish police authorities in the three years to 31st December 1973 in policing oil rigs within the Scottish jurisdiction sector of the North Sea but out with the three-mile limit; and what proportions of such expenditure have been borne by the central Government, specifying any direct assistance that is available.

The cost of this work is not separately identifiable in police accounts, although the total is certainly small.

Technical Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will exempt technical teachers from the need to sit a further examination to enable them to be paid on Scale 11.

It is the responsibility of the Scottish Teachers Salaries Committee to determine the salaries to be paid to the various groups of teachers holding different qualifications. I have no power to exempt teachers from any examinations which may be required if they wish to improve their qualifications and thus increase their salaries.

Teachers (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take action to eliminate the salary differentials that exist between teachers working in Scotland and those in England.

The salary structure that has been established by negotiations in the Scottish Teachers Salaries Committee is different from the pattern in England. If the committee were to make any changes that reduced the differences some groups of Scottish teachers would gain but others would lose.

Edinburgh Outer Ring Road

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now make a statement on the Edinburgh outer ring road.

Responsibility for initiating proposals rests with Edinburgh Corporation and Midlothian County Council as the local highway authorities and they are considering the matter. I have no proposals before me at present.

Abortion

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he proposes to take in regard to the main recommendations of the Lane Committee in Scotland.

I have invited the views of health boards and professional and other interested bodies on the recommendations. When these have been received I shall be considering along with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services and my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales what action should be taken.

Professions Supplementary To Medicine

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what representations he has received from the Society of Radiographers and individual radiographers regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating radiographers' pay;(2)what representations he has received from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy, and individual physiotherapists regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating physiotherapists' pay;(3)what representations he has received from the Association of Occupational Therapists and individual occupational therapists regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; an(3) if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating occupational therapists' pay.

I have received no direct representations about the system of Whitley Council negotiations but I have had approaches from members of the professions about their pay scales. Changes in the councils may be proposed by either side but, along with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services and my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales, I am willing to consider any proposals the Staff Side may wish to put forward.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Society of Radiographers to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way pay, conditions, prospects and recruitment to the radiography profession are examined; and if he will make a statement;

(2)if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the physiotherapy profession are examined; and if he will make a statement;

(3)if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Association of Occupational Therapists to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the occupational therapists' profession are examined; and if he will make a statement.

Ross: If the Staff Side on which these professions are represented wish to have a meeting, I or one of my colleagues will be glad to receive it.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what representations he has received from the Society of Radiographers regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps he intends taking to improve morale; and if he will make a statement;(2) what representations he has received from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps he intends taking to improve morale; and if he will make a statement;(3) what representations he has received from the Association of Occupational Therapists regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps he intends taking to improve morale; and if he will make a statement.

I have had representations from the professions and am aware of their concern. I am associated with the approach which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services has made to the Chairman of the Staff Side of the Whitley Council on which these bodes are represented about measures that would enable consideration of desirable developments in their role and structure to be pursued.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of radiographers he is now considering;

(2)what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of physiotherapists he is now considering;

(3)what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of occupational therapists he is now considering.

I am pursuing several possibilities; in particular, efforts are being made to increase the number of places for students at the training schools and to encourage married women to return to work.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will give the comparative costs per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency radiographers, respectively; and if he will make a statement;(2)in view of the shortage of radiographers, what central guidance on methods of bringing radiographers back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies he will give to area health authorities in Scotland; and if he will make a statement;(3)if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency-employed radiographers, as distinct from National Health Service radiographers, for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this trend; and if he will make a statement;(4)if he will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency physiotherapists, respectively; and if he will make a statement;(5)in view of the shortage of physiotherapists, what central guidance on methods of bringing physiotherapists back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies he will give to area health authorities;(6)if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency—employed physiotherapists as distinct from National Health Service physiotherapists, for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this possible trend; and if he will make a statement;(7)if he will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency occupational therapists, respectively; and if he will make a statement;(8)in view of the grave shortage of occupational therapists, what central guidance on methods of bringing occupational therapists back into the National Health Service from service with highly profitable private agencies he will give to area health authorities;(9)if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency-employed occupational therapists, as distinct from National Health Service occupational therapists, for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this trend; and if he will make a statement.

Scottish hospitals have not employed radiographers, physiotherapists or occupational therapists from agencies except to a negligible extent; the only instance known to me occurred in 1971 when one hospital employed radiographers from an agency for four short periods.

Nurses

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what representations he has received from the Royal College of Nursing and individual nurses regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating nurses' pay;(2)if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Royal College of Nursing to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way pay, conditions, prospects and recruitment to the nursing profession are examined; and if he will make a statement.(3)what representations he has received from the Royal College of Nursing regarding the declining morale in the nursing profession; what steps he intends taking to improve morale; and if he will make a statement.

My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State saw a deputation from the Royal College of Nursing (Scottish Board) on 17th May when matters relating to the level of pay, working conditions, morale, recruitment and the method of negotiating pay were raised. He gave the deputation an assurance that the points raised at the meeting would be reported to me and to the Prime Minister; and this he did.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of nurses he is now considering.

I propose to continue and extend the existing general advertisement campaign in the Press and to make available further copies of my Department's recruitment film to meet the demand from schools. During recent years assistance with publicity material and visual aids has been given to health authorities in promoting local campaigns and exhibitions. Health boards are considering further means of stimulating publicity measures for local recruitment.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency nurses, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, in view of the shortage of nurses, what central guidance of method of bringing nurses back into the National Health Service as distinct from service with private agencies he will give to area health authorities.

Methods of attracting nurses back to the National Health Service are discussed at regular meetings between my Department's Chief Nursing Officer and chief area nursing officers of health boards. Very few agency nurses are employed in Scotland.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency employed nurses, as distinct from National Health Service nurses, for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971, and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this possible trend; and if he will make a statement.

Information is not available for the years in question. The number of agency nurses employed in the National Health Service in Scotland is small and their employment, especially in the more remote areas, can be useful to cover occasional absences due to sickness, holidays, etc.

Trade

Vinyl Chloride (Aerosols)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what records he has of the import in recent years of products in aerosol containers where the propellant is vinyl chloride monomer.

None; packages in aerosol form are not separately distinguished in the overseas trade statistics.

Trade Marks (Japan)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he is aware that the names of British manufacturing companies are being registered by Japanese companies in Japan and that this creates problems for British exporters to Japan; if he will make further representations with the object of seeking to put an end to this practice; and if he will make a statement.

British exporters are strongly recommended to register their trade names and trade marks in their own name before they attempt to do any business in Japan. Representations have been made to the Japanese Government about the recent case in which a Japanese Company registered a generic name for the tea blend "English Breakfast" and is now seeking to prevent other importers from selling in Japan tea bearing the same name. We regard this as unfair competition and different from those cases where British companies have merely failed to take appropriate steps to register their industrial property rights in the first place.

Wales

Professions Supplementary To Medicine

asked the Secretary of State for Wales by how many the number of (a) radiographers, (b) physiotherapists and (c) occupational therapists in National Health Service employment falls short of establishment in Wales and South Glamorgan Area Health Authority, respectively.

Staffing levels for these classes of staff are matters for individual employing authorities and no central record of establishments is maintained. An inquiry undertaken in 1973 showed that at 30th September 1973 the numbers of radiographers, physiotherapists and occupational therapists in post in the health service in Wales, and the number of vacancies at that date, were, in whole-time equivalents:

In postvacancies
Radiographers…326·551·0
Physiotherapists…246·069·5
Occupational therapists…89·046·5
I understand that the South Glamorgan Area Health Authority has 118 radiographers, 72.5 physiotherapists and 35.8 occupational therapists in post at the present time and 18.3, 36.6 and 7.8 vacancies respectively (whole-time equivalents).

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what representations he has received from the Society of Radiographers, and individual radiographers, regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating radiographers' pay;(2)what representations he has received from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy and individual physiotherapists regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating physiotherapists' pay;(3)what representations he has received from the Association of Occupational Therapists and individual occupational therapists regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating occupational therapists' pay.

I have had no representations from the professional bodies but I have had a letter from an individual physiotherapist.

The National Health Service Whitley Councils were set up by voluntary agreement between staff and management; changes may be proposed in the councils by either side but, in conjunction with my right hon. Friends the Secretary of State for Social Services and the Secretary of State for Scotland, I am willing to consider any proposals the staff side may wish to put forward.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Society of Radiographers to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way pay, conditions, prospects and recruitment to the radiography profession are examined; and if he will make a statement;(2)if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the physiotherapy profession are examined; and if he will make a statement;(3)if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Association of Occupational Therapists to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the occupational therapists profession are examined; and if he will make a statement.

If the staff side, on which all these professional bodies are represented, would like to meet a Welsh Office Minister, I would be glad to make arrangements for this.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what representations he has received from the Society of Radiographers regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps he intends taking to improve morale; and if he will make a statement;(2)what representations he has received from the Chartered Society of Physiotherapy regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps he intends taking to improve morale; and if he will make a statement;(3)what representations he has received from the Association of Occupational Therapists regarding the declining morale in the profession; what steps he intends taking to improving morale; and if he will make a statement.

I have had no representations from these professional bodies, though I am aware of the concern within the professions.My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services has written to the chairman of the staff side of the Whitley Council on which these bodies are represented about measures that would enable consideration of desirable developments in their role and structure to be pursued.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruit-men of radiographers in Wales he is now considering;(2)in view of the grave shortage of radiographers, what central guidance on methods of bringing radiographers back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies he will give to area health authorities in Wales;(3)what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of physiotherapists he is now considering;(3)view of the shortage of physiotherapists, what central guidance on methods of bringing physiotherapists back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies he will give to area health authorities;what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of occupational therapists he is now considering;in view of the grave shortage of occupational therapists, what central guidance on methods of bringing occupational therapists back into the National Health Service as distinct from service with private agencies he will give area health authorities.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services and I are examining ways of obtaining new recruits to these and other professions and of bringing qualified staff back into National Health Service employment. In particular we are reviewing the current methods of advertising for a range of National Health Service careers and are considering how facilities for staff who can only work part time might be improved.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) if he will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency radiographers, respectively; and if he will make a statement;(2)if he will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency physiotherapists, respectively; and if he will make a statement;(3)if he will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency occupational therapists, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

The National Health Service in Wales has had no experience of agency radiographers, physiotherapists or occupational therapists on which such comparisons could be made.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency-employed radiographers as dinstinct from National Health Service radiographers for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this trend; and if he will make a statement;(2)if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency-employed physiotherapists as distinct from National Health Service physiotherapists for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this trend; and if he will make a statement;(3)if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency-employed occupational therapists as distinct from National Health Service occupational therapists for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this trend; and if he will make a statement.

So far as I am aware no agency radiographers, physiotherapists or occupational therapists were employed in the National Health Service in Wales in the years in question.

Land Compensation

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many people have been compensated under the Land Compensation Act 1973 in Wales and the present Cardiff city, respectively; and how many claims are outstanding in each.

A variety of public bodies is concerned with claims under this Act and comprehensive information is not maintained centrally.

Bilingual Traffic Signs

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are his intentions concerning the implementation of the Bowen Report on bilingual traffic signs.

Water Extraction

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many gallons of water per year are transmitted from waterworks in Wales of English undertakings, for use outside Wales; and if he will list the waterworks concerned.

The latest available figures are for the year ended 31st December 1973. In that year the total quantity of water transmitted from Wales by the Mid-Cheshire and Wirral Water Board and the cities of Liverpool and Birmingham was about 51,000 million gallons. The waterworks concerned were the Alwen, Vyrnwy and Elan Valley reservoir systems and the Mid-Cheshire Water Board's River Dee abstraction works.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many gallons of water per year are pumped out of the Rivers Dee, Wye and Severn, respectively, within the borders of Wales; and, of these quantities, how much, respectively, is for use within Wales and how much for use outside Wales.

While no precise figures are available, it is estimated that total quantities of 10,100, 29,600 and 18,600 million gallons per year are abstracted from the rivers Dee, Wye and Severn respectively in Wales for the purposes of public water supply. Of these quantities 5,700, 1,600 and 600 million gallons respectively are used within Wales. Substantial amounts of water are abstracted from these rivers outside the borders of Wales.

Nurses

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what representations he has received from the Royal College of Nursing and individual nurses regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations; and if he will examine possible alternatives to this system for negotiating nurses' pay.

I have received no specific representations regarding the system of Whitley Council negotiations. Negotiations about pay are the responsibility of the Nurses and Midwives Whitley Council and it is for that body to consider whether any alterations in the method of negotiation are necessary. However, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services and I are considering a request for an independent inquiry into nurses' pay.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) if he is prepared to meet a deputation from the Royal College of Nursing to discuss their grievances regarding the way in which their pay is fixed, and the way conditions, prospects and recruitment to the nursing profession are examined; and if he will make a statement;(2) what representations he has received from the Royal College of Nursing regarding the declining morale in the nursing profession; what steps he intends taking to improve morale; and if he will make a statement.

My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State received on 20th May a deputation from the Welsh Board of the Royal College of Nursing. I am considering with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services what action can be taken to alleviate the situation.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what central guidance on methods of stimulating recruitment of nurses he is now considering.

My Department is continuing to provide support to the recruitment activities of the NHS employing authorities by publicity campaigns in the national Press and cinemas, production of posters, brochures and films and provision of exhibition material.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give the comparative cost per hour, per eight hours, per normal working week, per weekend, for employing National Health Service and agency nurses, respectively; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the shortage of nurses, what central guidance on methods of bringing nurses back into the National Health Service from service with private agencies he will give to area health authorities in Wales.

Nurses choose agency work for a variety of reasons. I am considering with my right hon. Friend how and to what extent these might be met by direct employment in the National Health Service.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give the proportion of employment time of agency-employed nurses as distinct from National Health Service nurses for the following years: 1965, 1967, 1969, 1971 and 1973; if he intends taking any action to change this trend; and if he will make a statement.

Only three agency nurses are now working in Welsh National Health Service hospitals compared with 17,358 employees of the health authorities. Figures for earlier years are not available but I have no reason to believe that in any of the years in question employment time of such nurses compared with that of National Health Service nurses was any more than minimal.