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Written Answers

Volume 885: debated on Monday 3 February 1975

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 3rd February 1975

Energy

Solar Energy (American Research)

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will seek to arrange that the results of American research into solar energy are made available in this country.

Yes. We are playing a full part in the discussions now taking place on international co-operation in solar energy research under the aegis of the International Energy Agency, of which the USA is a member.

Oil Platforms

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what are the numbers, type and class of platforms which are estimated for use on the Frigg field; and if he will give the number so far on order with details of estimated cost, company from where ordered and prospective dates of delivery.

Frigg is a gas field lying across the dividing line between the United Kingdom and Norway. Four platforms are planned for the United Kingdom side of which two will be of steel and two of concrete. Three of these are currently on order. An order for one concrete platform has been placed with McAlpine in Scotland, whilst orders for one steel and the second concrete platform have been placed with UIE, France and Howard-Doris, Norway respectively. All three platforms are due for delivery this year. As regards the cost of the platforms, this is a commercial matter between the oil operator and his suppliers.

Oil Industry (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many firms are involved in Scotland in offshore oil activity; and how many firms are estimated by his Department or the Offshore Supplies Office to have the capability for such involvement.

It is estimated that about 800 firms are presently involved in Scotland in the offshore oil industry. It is not possible, however, to estimate the number of firms which have an offshore capability because of the very wide range of goods and services that make up the offshore market.

Oil Conservation (Eec Countries)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will set out in the Official Report the steps that are being taken in each of the EEC countries to curtail the use of fuel oil, gasoline and domestic heating oil.

The information is being obtained and I will write to the hon. Member as soon as possible.

Oil Platform Production Sites

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what guidance is being given by the Offshore Supplies Office, in the interests of continuity of employment, to ensure that oil production platform sites have a capability inbuilt in their construction for easy conversion to general construction, engineering or manufacturing purposes.

The facilities needed for platform construction are specialised, and I am not clear that, however desirable, any guidance of the kind referred to by the hon. Member could usefully be issued at this time. If, however, he has some practical suggestions to make I should be pleased to look into them. The Offshore Supplies Office has been, and is, always willing to advise a platform contractor on diversification into other offshore activities.

Electricity Disconnections

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he is able to estimate the annual number of disconnections of domestic electricity supplies.

The Electricity Council estimates the number of disconnections for debt in any year as less than 1 per centum of the number of all credit consumers.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will legislate to require area electricity boards to maintain and publish statistics relating to disconnection of supplies.

No. Area boards keep records, including numbers of disconnections, for their own administrative purposes in fulfilment of their statutory obligations.

Petrol Pricing

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will give an assurance that he will consult the Motor Agents' Association before announcing any decision on the two-tier pricing of petrol.

I am writing to the association suggesting that it meets a senior official to elaborate its views.

National Finance

Finance For Industry

56.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many applications for loans there have been to Finance for Industry; how many have been granted; and if he is satisfied with its operation.

Publication of information about its activities is a matter for Finance for Industry itself. However, the company announced on 14th January that it had already received about 100 inquiries representing a potential loan total of some £350 million-£400 million.

Borrowing (Public Sector)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the total borrowing requirement in the public sector in the current financial year.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer which my right hon. Friend gave on 30th January to the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Lamont).—[Vol. 885, c. 602.]

Capital Transfer Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the financial benefits which will accrue to the United Kingdom Government in the years 1974–75 and 1975–76 from his decision that, as far as the Isle of Man is concerned, all persons domiciled in the United Kingdom and moving to the island after 12th November 1974 will be deemed to be domiciled in the United Kingdom for the purposes of the capital transfer tax.

Company Accounts And Inflation Committee

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many times the Inflation Accounting Committee has met; and if he will make a statement about its work.

I understand that the Committee on Company Accounts and Inflation has had some 30 formal meetings. The committee hopes to report at about the end of March and the Government will await its conclusions with interest.

European Investment Bank Loans

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to obtain and publish a list of the loans made to British industry by the European Investment Bank in the year 1974.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave on 30th January 1975 to the hon. Member for Cardiff, North (Mr. Grist)—[Vol. 885, c. 248–50.]—which lists all the loans granted by the European Investment Bank in the United Kingdom in 1974.

Public Sector Debt

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the size per head of population of public sector debt in Great Britain, France, West Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, the United States of America, Japan and Sweden in the latest year for which the information is available, expressed in £ sterling.

Information on public sector debt is not available from international sources. The following estimates of central Government debt per head have been derived from national statistical publications and from population estimates included in the OECD's "Main Economic Indicators" (November 1974 issue). The table contains estimates of national debt for the United Kingdom as no separate figures are available for Great Britain.

ESTIMATES OF CENTRAL GOVERNMENT DEBT PER HEAD IN £ STERLING OR STERLING EQUIVALENT
Central Government debt outstanding per head at end-March 1974
United Kingdom720
France150
West Germany290
Belgium910
Netherlands450
Italy250
USA960
Japan180
Sweden610
Debt is shown at nominal values, converted into sterling at market rates of exchange. It should be noted that the figures are affected by differences in the pattern of financing of local authorities and public trading enterprises, by the inclusion of official holdings of debt and by inclusion or otherwise of Government-controlled credit institutions. Comparison between countries therefore requires great caution.

British Petroleum Company Ltd

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the reason for the continued failure of Her Majesty's Government to appoint a second director to BP.

I would refer the right hon. Gentleman to the reply I gave in answer to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Gravesend (Mr. Ovenden) on 16th January.—[Vol. 884, c. 160.]

Capital Transfer Taxes (Eec Countries)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will give a list of the capital transfer taxes in other EEC countries, including rates;(2) how do the legislatures in the Federal Republic, France, the Netherlands and Italy provide for the tax on the transfer of assets of the following classifications, (

a) upon death and ( b) upon assignment during the lifetime of the owner to his children: owner-occupied property, agricultural land, small firms engaged in manufacturing, and professional partnerships, respectively.

The information the hon. Member is seeking will take some time to assemble and I shall write to him as soon as possible.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether any European country makes its capital taxes subject to, or adjustable for, the current rates of inflation.

None that I am aware of, but for the capital gains tax in Sweden the acquisition cost of real property is adjusted by reference to the consumer price index if the asset was held for more than two years before disposal.

Estates Administration (Exemption From Representation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the review concerning the £500 statutory limit in respect of which a deceased person's estate may be administered without the necessity for a grant of representation has yet been completed.

Departmental Staff (Qualifications)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether new recruits to the Treasury are given a reading list for their own free time; what these books are; and what notes and advice are given on the list.

Reading lists covering both economic and other relevant subjects are supplied to new entrants at Executive Officer level and above. The details and accompanying advice are too extensive for publication in the Official Report, and I am therefore writing to the hon. Gentleman to provide him with the information sought.

Foreign Borrowing

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what was the average rate of interest paid on British overseas borrowing for each of the last 12 months;(2) if he will publish in the

Official Report a table showing the total amount of British overseas borrowing for each of the last 12 months, indicating the total borrowed from the International Monetary Fund and from other sources, respectively.

The only figures available on a monthly basis are for foreign currency borrowing by the public sector under the exchange cover scheme and drawings on the facility for Her Majesty's Government to borrow $2–5 billion on the Eurodollar market. For 1974 these were as follows:

$ million
Public sector borrowingDrawings on HMG loan
1974—
January12
February20
March682
April749
May124
June165
July10
August125
September309
October10500
November400750
December250
2,6061,500
Most of this borrowing is on a floating basis, with interest rates related to those
£ million
Official long-term capitalNet transactions with IMFNet transactions with other monetary authoritiesPublic sector borrowing overseas
1968+16+506+709
1969-99-30-669+21
1970-204-134-1,161-2
1971-273-554-1,263+65
1972-255-415+864
1973-252+901
1974 (to end-September)-109+704
Because of the very large variety of transactions involved it is not possible to isolate the annual interest payments on each borrowing.Details of other capital and investment flows into the United Kingdom appear on a quarterly basis in "Economic Trends", which is published by the Central Statistical Office. The latest information, which covers the third quarter of 1974, is included in the December issue. There were no drawings on the IMF General Account during 1974.

Car Taxation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will revert to licensing cars for tax purposes on the basis of horse-power of the engine.

on the market. The detailed terms are a confidential matter for the borrower and lender.

Details of other investment and capital flows into the United Kingdom from 1968 to the third quarter of 1974 are given in the December issue of "Economic Trends", published by the Central Statistical Office. There were no drawings on the IMF General Account during 1974.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what was the average rate of interest paid on British overseas borrowing annually since 1968;(2) if he will publish in the

Official Report a table showing the total amount of British overseas borrowing annually since 1968, indicating the total borrowed from the IMF and from other sources, respectively.

Net overseas borrowing by the Government and public sector was as follows:

Home Department

Juvenile Offenders

57.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will order an inquiry into the law governing the reporting of offences committed by juveniles.

Defendants' Pleas (Pre-Trial Conversations)

58.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in the light of the Court of Appeal decision in the case of Regina v. Inns, the Lord Chancellor will consider the need for rules applying to pre-trial conversations between judges and counsel about the pleas of defendants.

My right hon. Friend is not persuaded that this is a matter for formal rules. The decision of the Court of Appeal to which my hon. Friend refers shows that the court has power to act if it appears that there was not a proper plea.

Lotteries

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will ensure that, in any amendment of the law on small lotteries, the regulations governing lotteries organised by local authorities will be the same as those governing lotteries organised by sports clubs, and that private lotteries at present organised under Section 44 of the Act will continue to be permitted under the provisions of similar revised terms to those proposed for Section 45 lotteries.

Under the Government's Lotteries Bill, lotteries promoted by local authorities and societies will be subject to the same restrictions as regards the price of tickets, the value of prize and the total value of tickets sold. My right hon. Friend has no immediate proposals to amend Section 44 of the Betting, Gaming and Lotteries Act 1963.

Children (Age Of Responsibility)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will retain the present age of legal responsibility for children; and if he will consider making parents responsible for their children's damage.

My right. hon. Friend has no proposals for lowering the present age of criminal responsibility. The law already enables courts to order that fines or compensation orders imposed on juveniles should be paid by the parent or guardian, unless the court is satisfied that he or she cannot be found or has not conduced to the commission of the offence by neglecting to exercise due care or control. The courts also have power to bind over the parents of a child under the age of 17 to take proper care of him and to exercise proper control over him.

Comprehensive Community Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the present position regarding the comprehensive community programmes first announced in July of last year; how many local authorities have agreed to participate in the exercise; what the cost of the total operation is likely to be; how the creation of comprehensive community programmes will affect the existing National Community Development Project; and whether it is intended to alter the present arrangements regarding the 12 individual projects.

The Government are at present consulting local authorities and others about the development of comprehensive community programmes with a view to inviting several authorities to undertake trial runs. It is not yet possible to assess the likely cost.The development of these programmes will not directly affect the Community Development Project, the progress of which we are considering in the light of a recent management review.

Police Houses

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the practice of police authorities on making unoccupied police houses available to housing authorities by sale or lease.

The disposal of unoccupied police houses is a matter for police authorities, but we have made clear to them our natural concern that houses should not remain unoccupied for longer than is absolutely necessary. I understand that some police authorities offer their surplus houses for sale to housing authorities or are prepared to lease to housing authorities police houses which are temporarily unoccupied.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the approximate number of police houses in England and Wales which have been unoccupied for more than one month.

I regret that this information is not readily available and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

Immigration Appeals

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will now take steps to revise the appeals procedure under Rule 42 of the Immigration Act 1971 to allow non-patrials under notice of deportation access to all the evidence concerning allegations against them and for hearings to be in public and with full rights of legal representation.

I have no present plans for changing the procedure for appeals in cases of deportation on grounds of national security, but I will keep the matter under review.

Juveniles In Custody

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many young offenders under the age of 16 years whose home is in Cheshire or Greater Manchester are held at Risley Remand Centre at the latest convenient date.

On 24th January there were two boys under the age of 16 from Cheshire and 12 from Greater Manchester.

Official Secrets Act

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to repeal the Official Secrets Act.

I am considering the implications of the Franks Report on Section 2 of the Official Secrets Act 1911 and related matters.

Textiles (Departmental Purchases)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total value of textile goods purchased by his Department during the past 12 months.

asked the Secretar of State for the Home Department what percentage of textile goods, over the last 12 months, has been purchased from British manufacturers by his Department.

All such purchases have been from British firms. While it does not necessarily follow from this that all are of British manufacture, we believe that this is the case with over 80 per cent. of such purchases.

Juvenile Detention (Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the present weekly cost to his Department of keeping a boy in a junior detention centre.

The estimated weekly cost of maintaining an inmate in a detention centre in England and Wales during 1973–74, the latest year for which information is available, was approximately £45. Records showing separately the cost of junior detention centres are not kept.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will instruct his Department to purchase all future textile requirements from British manufacturers.

Immigration (Indian Subcontinent)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will make a statement about the visit he made to Asia during the Christmas Recess and say what conclusions and decisions he came to concerning the waiting lists for entry and the delay in granting interviews;(2) what steps are being taken to reduce the waiting period for people from Dacca and Islamabad wishing to join relatives.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to a Question by the hon. Member for Sutton Coldfield (Mr. Fowler) on 15th January—[Vol. 884, c. 126]—and the debate on the Consolidated Fund Bill on 23rd January.—[Vol. 884, c. 1998–2020.]

Pakistani Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applicants who have applied for British citizenship under the Pakistan Act are awaiting the results of their applications.

Since the Pakistan Bill was introduced on 14th May 1973 about 103,000 citizens of Pakistan have applied for registration as citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies and there have been just over 51,000 grants of citizenship. We are in correspondence with the applicants in about half of the remaining cases, with the balance yet to be dealt with.

Law Of Trespass

59.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has any proposals to implement the recommendations of the Law Commission on the law of trespass.

The Law Commission has not yet made recommendations on this subject. Working Paper No. 54 which deals with offences of entering and remaining on property was circulated for comment and criticism only.

Dogs (Experiments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will seek powers to enable him to prohibit the use of dogs in experiments in connection with cigarette smoking.

Such experiments are controlled under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876. I am satisfied that, in accordance with the requirements of the Act, they are performed with a view to the advancement by new discovery of knowledge which will be useful for saving or prolonging life or alleviating suffering. I shall keep this matter under review.

Remanded Persons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how long the girl in Risley remand centre has been awaiting trial;(2) how long the girl in Lower Newton remand centre has been awaiting trial;(3) how long the five boys at Ashford Remand Centre, the four boys at Brock-hill Remand Centre, and the three boys at Cardiff Remand Centre, respectively, have been awaiting trial;(4) how long the 37 boys at Latchmere House, the 16 boys at Low Newton, the 24 boys at Risley, the 20 boys at Thorp Arch and the 19 boys at Winchester, respectively, have been awaiting trial;(5) how long the boys at Leeds, Leicester, Lincoln, Norwich, Oxford and Shrewsbury prisons have been awaiting trial;(6) how many of the 1,712 persons in custody who have been convicted and were awaiting sentence on 31st December 1974 have been on remand before trial for more than three months.

I am obtaining up-to-date information and will write to my hon. Friend.

Mr Richard Crossman's Memoirs

asked the Attorney-General what decision he has reached on the question whether to apply to the High Court of Justice for an injunction to restrain the Sunday Times newspaper from publishing or from causing the publication of the late Mr. Richard Crossman's memoirs; and what are the reasons for his decision.

It is apparent from the selection of excerpts which were published on Sunday 26th January and Sunday 2nd February that the Sunday Times representatives have taken account of the views of the Secretary of the Cabinet, and indeed this was stated in the newspaper. So long as that continues to be the position, there is no reason for an application to the court.

Overseas Development

European Development Fund

60.

asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether she will make a statement on the creation of the European Development Fund as it affects the United Kingdom.

The new European Development Fund, on which agreement was reached in Brussels last week, will total 3,140 million units of account, or approximately £1,600 million at current rates of exchange. France and Germany will each contribute 25·95 per cent. and the United Kingdom 18·7 per cent. or about £300 million. This money will be committed over a five-year period, but disbursements will take longer than this. As a result of our participation British firms will be eligible to tender for supply and works contracts and consultancy work arising from the fund's operations.

Aid

asked the Minis-of Overseas Development what was the

£ million
1970197119721973
Total official aid flows (net)188·9235·8246·9262·5
Percentage of GNP0·370·420·400·37
The figures for 1974 are unlikely to be available until May.

Industry

Civil Aviation

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what new civil aviation projects he envisages being undertaken by his projected nationalised British aerospace manufacturing organisation.

Beyond the development of existing aircraft there will be the next generation of aircraft to replace those at present in service. What projects are undertaken will depend upon operators' requirements and the size of the potential market.

Companies (Government Shareholdings)

12.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many meetings has he had with the employees in each of the companies in which the Government have taken a shareholding since 1st March 1974.

The only companies in which the Government have acquired a shareholding since 1st March 1974 are Brown Boveri Ltd. and Scientific and Medical Instruments Ltd.—through a rearrangement of the Government's previous holding in the George Kent Group—Court Line's shipbuilding, ship repairing and marine engineering interests and Kearney Trecker Marwin Machine Tools (Holdings) Ltd. My right hon. Friend has had two meetings with the representatives of employees of the George Kent Group. He has met both management and trade union representatives of

total expenditure on overseas aid of the United Kingdom in each year since 1970; and if she will express each year's total as a percentage of gross national product.

The following is the information requested:Court Shipbuilders. No similar meetings have taken place with Kearney Trecker Marwin Machine Tools (Holdings) Ltd.

Workers' Co-Operatives

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how he proposes to monitor the financial performance and how he proposes to provide for accountability to Parliament for expenditure of public funds by his Department in grants to workers' co-operatives.

As with all offers of assistance under the Industry Act, assistance to workers' co-operatives will be monitored in a manner commensurate with the amount of public money involved. The normal arrangements governing accountability to Parliament will apply.

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what profit he expects to be made in the years 1975–76 and 1976–77 by the workers' co-operatives at Kirkby and Meriden; and whether these co-operatives have entered into planning agreements with the Department of Industry.

Both of these important innovations in industrial organisation expect to become profitable after initial losses. I cannot, however, disclose their individual financial forecasts. No arrangements for information beyond the normal procedures for monitoring Government investment have been made.

Kirkby Manufacturing And Engineering Co-Operative

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what were the particular grounds for making a grant to the Kirkby Manufacturing and Engineering Co-operative under the Industry Act; and whether he will make a statement.

The Government decided to provide a grant because they have confidence in the workers at Kirkby who, after the failure of the five previous private owners to provide continuing employment, expressed their readiness to assume responsibility for the success of the enterprise, to maintain jobs in an area of unacceptably high and persistent unemployment and submitted plans to do so.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the forward order book for each category of product manufactured at Kirkby Manufacturing and Engineering Company Limited; what is the expected net profit before tax on each category; and what percentage of each category will be exported.

It is not the practice to disclose information as to the commercial affairs of companies applying for selective assistance.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will publish the balance sheet of Kirkby Manufacturing and Engineering Company as at 15th January 1975, showing the return on capital employed, including public funds.

No. Kirkby Manufacturing and Engineering Ltd. is, however, subject to the usual Companies Act requirements as to the filing of accounts.

Aircraft

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will make it his policy to consult every employee in the aircraft industry in respect of his proposals for nationalisation of that industry.

Our consultation process provides all interested parties with the opportunity to put foward their views.

Steelworkers And Miners (Redundancy)

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many applications from his Department to the European Coal and Steel Community for assistance in the retraining, rehousing and redeployment of redundant British steelworkers are still awaiting replies.

Two. One concerns 44 redundant workers from BSC's Whitehead works, and the other 180 workers at Brown Bayley Steels Ltd. who will become redundant over next few weeks.

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will now publish all the correspondence relating to the EEC proposals concerning the financing and studying of proposals relating to redundant steelworkers and miners.

There has been no correspondence between my Department and the Commission concerning further United Kingdom studies to be funded under Article 46 of the Treaty of Paris. Proposals for studies into the possibility of re-employing redundant coal and steel workers have been the subject of face-to-face discussions between officials of my Department and the Commission.

Paper

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will discourage the wasteful use of paper by companies, public authorities, including nationalised industries, pressure groups and other bodies, in the production of publications, frequently on glossy paper, for prestige purposes.

I expect that, in the current economic climate, those responsible for producing such documents would avoid the use of high-grade papers for purely prestige purposes and, indeed, reduce the quantity of any paper used for such purposes. The question of the most effective means of discouraging such practices is one of the matters being put to the Waste Management Advisory Council which was recently set up by the Government.

British Leyland

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will report on discussions which have taken place with British Leyland.

The team led by Sir Don Ryder is at present conducting, in consultation with the British Leyland management and trade unions, an overall assessment of British Leyland's present situation and future prospects. I have undertaken—[Vol. 883, c. 1727.]—to report to the House as soon as possible on the team's recommendations and their financial implications.

Postal Charges

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will refuse to sanction the proposed rises in postal charges unless they contain special postal rates for overseas periodicals and books.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the speech I made in replying to his motion on the Adjournment on 30th January.

Shipbuilding And Ship Repairing

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will accept the submission of the Shipbuilders and Repairers National Association that ship repairing companies should be excluded from his nationalisation proposals, as their activities are different from shipbuilding.

The SRNA's submission was carefully considered, but the Government do not intend to vary their decision that the larger ship repair companies should be taken into public ownership. My right hon. Friend will make a full statement as soon as possible.

Unemployment (South Yorkshire)

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what steps he is taking to bring down the unemployment figures in the South Yorkshire area.

Firms in South Yorkshire, where unemployment is at about the national average, are eligible for intermediate area benefits.

Engineering (Processing Machinery)

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what consultation he is having with the engineering industry with a view to increasing the production of processing machinery of the varieties in demand from OPEC countries.

My Department is in constant touch with the engineering industry in general about the balance of supply and demand. Joint consultations between Government and both sides of the process plant industry in particular are also undertaken in the Process Plant Working Party of NEDO and in the NEDC itself.

Aircraft Design

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many design teams he estimates exist in the Western world, excluding the United States of America, which are capable of designing a complete civil airliner.

I understand that in the Western world, outside the United States, there are seven major firms with design teams capable of undertaking complete aircraft with 50 seats or more and about twice this number capable of undertaking smaller aircraft or parts of large aircraft.

European Economic Community

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what discussions he has had with leaders of British industry about British membership of the EEC.

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what recent discussions he has had with leaders of British industry about British membership of the EEC.

I would refer the hon. Members to my reply to similar Questions by the hon. Members for Morecambe and Lonsdale (Mr. Hall-Davis) and Harrogate (Mr. Banks) earlier today.

Factories (Sunderland)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the employment of men and women, respectively, in Government-owned factories in Sunderland at the latest available date; and what were the figures a year earlier.

In December 1974 there were 5,298 men and 3,756 women employed and in December 1973, 5,800 men and 4,201 women.

Norton Villiers Triumph

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will make a statement on progress towards setting up a workers' co-operative at Norton Villiers Triumph.

I am very pleased to be able to report that the workers at the Small Heath plant of Norton Villiers Triumph Ltd. no longer oppose the setting up of the co-operative at Meriden. I hope that Norton Villiers Triumph and the co-operative will soon be in a position to conclude the agreements which are a condition of Government assistance to the co-operative.

Postal Services

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if, before approving the proposed increases in postal charges, he will set up an independent inquiry into the efficiency of the postal services.

No. The proposed increases are already under scrutiny by the Price Commission and the Post Office Users' National Council. The efficiency of the postal services can best be helped by a speedy return to economic pricing.

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will give a general direction to the Post Office not to abandon Saturday postal deliveries.

No. But if the Post Office proposed to abolish these deliveries it would have a statutory duty to consult the Post Office Users' National Council, and I should then be concerned with the outcome of the discussion.

Co-Operative Development

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what consideration he has given to the introduction of legislation to establish a co-operative development agency.

The Government are considering the proposal to establish a co-operative development agency, and are in touch with the Co-operative Union and other interests. No decisions have yet been taken.

Textiles

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what discussions he has had with representatives of the textile industry with a view to alleviating their current difficulties.

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what steps he is taking to support the wool and textile industries of Yorkshire and Lancashire at the present time.

I believe that the present difficulties are due mainly to lack of demand in the textile industry. It is to be expected that demand will recover if the present high level of consumer buying of textiles continues. The Government have taken further steps recently to contain disruptive imports.

Manufacturing

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what steps he is taking to encourage the development of, and investment in, manufacturing industry in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.

The Government's policies for the regeneration of British industry were outlined in the White Paper, Command 5710, published in August 1974. I have brought before the House a new Industry Bill to give effect to those policies.

Northern Region

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he is satisfied with industrial progress in the Northern Region.

We are continually working to promote industrial development in the Northern Region.

Steelworks

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will now make a statement concerning the future of the Shotton, Ebbw Vale and East Moors steelworks.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Mother-well and Wishaw (Dr. Bray) earlier today.

Steelworkers (House Purchase)

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what action he is taking to encourage steelworkers to take up the loans for house purchase at low rates of interest which are available from the European Communities.

In consultation with my Department and the steel industry my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment is urgently considering how these loans can be made available to assist in the housing of steel-workers in a way which would accord with the European Commission's conditions and with United Kingdom housing practices.

National Enterprise Board

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he expects the National Enterprise Board to be operating; and if he will name the members of the board.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave in reply to a Question earlier today by the hon. Member for Surrey, North-West (Mr. Grylls).

Telecommunications

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will clarify why the level of capital expenditure on telecommunications is about £500 million per annum whereas the annual turnover is only £1,200 million.

Subject to the availability of resources, the level of investment is determined by the demand for expanded and improved services which is still very high. I am satisfied that the current level of investment is justified. Turnover is related to the level of cervices used and to pricing policies and has been affected by price restraint in recent years. But the Post Office has now referred proposals for tariff increases to the Price Commission.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry why he is securing loans for Post Office telecommunications bearing 10 to 14 per cent. interest when the return on capital investment in recent years has been only about 7 per cent.; and if he will make a statement.

The rate at which I lend money to the Post Office is governed by the National Loans Act 1968. The low current return on capital is the consequence of price restraint, for which I am paying compensation directly to the Post Office. The Government's policy of phasing out subsidies for price restraint should of course lead to higher rates of return on capital.

Postal Deliveries

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what percentage of letters are delivered by first and second deliveries, respectively.

I understand from the Post Office that on average on Monday to Friday 86 per cent. of letters are delivered on the first and 14 per cent. on the second delivery.

Scottish Daily News

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on his official discussions on 28th January with representatives of the Scottish Daily News.

My meeting on 28th January was to enable me to ascertain the progress being made towards establishing the Scottish Daily News.

Companies (Employees)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will give by standard economic planning region the number of companies employing under 100 and under 500, respectively, showing the total number employed by each group in each region and indicating where possible how many of these companies are privately owned.

The only information available in my Department on this subject relates to local manufacturing units—rather than companies—recorded in the register of businesses maintained by the Business Statistics Office (BSO). The latest date for which a size breakdown by region is available is 1972.Because the BSO's register of businesses is not wholly reliable for units employing 1–10 persons, no regional breakdown has been attempted. It is estimated, however, that in 1972 there were about 50,000 units employing in total about 250,000 in this size range in manufacturing industry. The detailed regional data for the size bands 11–99 employees and 100–499 employees are given in the accompanying table.The employment figures are, in the main, taken from Census of Production returns and are the average numbers employed in the units over a period of 12 months as reported in the census. Additional employment information is obtained from the Annual Census of Employment.

MANUFACTURING UNITS BY EMPLOYMENT SIZE BY COUNTRY AND STANDARD REGION 1972
summary table for units employing 1–499
Employment Size Group
Country/Region (as at 1972)0–1011–99100–499
North:
Number of Units· ·1,692550
Employment· ·55,651128,154
Yorkshire and Humberside:
Number of Units· ·4,4621,285
Employment· ·147,721271,688
East Midlands:
Number of Units· ·3,447981
Employment· ·116,209204,554
East Anglia:
Number of Units· ·1,256281
Employment· ·41,99661,807
South East:
Number of Units· ·15,5662,767
Employment· ·467,119574,930
South West
Number of Units· ·2,363569
Employment· ·76,317120,651
West Midlands:
Number of Units· ·5,4761,402
Employment· ·180,167299,492
North West:
Number of Units· ·5,7671,608
Employment· ·192,750350,679
Wales:
Number of Units· ·1,367462
Employment· ·45,74799,804
Scotland
Number of Units· ·3,800928
Employment· ·123,840197,755
Northern Ireland:
Number of Units· ·746307
Employment· ·27,91867,386
Total number of Units50,000*45,94211,140
Total Employment250,000*1,475,4352,376,900
· · Not available.
* Estimate.

Petrol Costs

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the estimated increase in industrial costs in 1975 which will result from increases in petrol prices since the November budget.

There are no comprehensive statistics on the use of petrol by industry. It is thought that the rise in petrol prices since the November budget would have added broadly ½ per cent. to average industrial costs and that of this about one-half would represent the effect of higher VAT charges.

These and other figures on the employment size of United Kingdom manufacturing units will be published by the BSO shortly in the Business Monitor series.

Information on the ownership of these units is not readily available.

Ship Repairing

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he can now say when he proposes to publish the White Paper on the public ownership of the ship repairing industry.

I shall make a statement to Parliament as soon as possible on the Government's proposals.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many firms in the ship repairing industry have applied for financial aid to the latest available date.

To date three companies engaged wholly or mainly in ship repairing have made application for financial aid.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many ship repairing firms there are in Wales.

There is one major ship repairing group, and five other companies wholly or partly engaged in ship repairing, in Wales. There are also a number of small firms which are engaged in general engineering and some ship repairing activities.

Textiles

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will take steps to establish an automatic regulator for the import of textiles.

I am examining in detail the value of and the implications for the use of statistical criteria as a guide to action by Government to restrict imports of textiles.

British Leyland

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what further discussions he has had with British Leyland Motor Corporation Ltd. concerning the restructuring of the home and overseas manufacture and distribution of its products; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave earlier today to Questions by the hon Members for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Lamont) and Ealing, Southall (Mr. Bidwell).

Foreign Borrowing

asked the Secretary of State for Industry to what sectors of the British economy have Arab funds made a significant contribution; and what State corporations have drawn a figure exceeding $100 million from Arab and Iranian oil surpluses.

I have been asked to reply.There has been little identifiable direct investment in British industry by the oil producers to date. Details of the sources of borrowing by individual public sector bodies are confidential to the borrowers and lenders unless they decide otherwise. The drawing of $400 million by the National Water Council under the Iranian line of credit has, however, been publicised.

Wales

Independent Schools (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the total amount of public expenditure on independent schools in Wales for the latest year for which figures are available; and if he will express the total expenditure per capita of each pupil attending such institutions.

In the financial year 1972–73 expenditure by local education authorities in Wales in respect of pupils attending independent schools amounted to £158,272. The numbers of children supported in this way are not known and figures of expenditure per capita cannot, therefore, be calculated.

Self-Build Housing

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give advice to local authorities on ways to encourage groups of people who wish to build their own homes on a self-build basis.

Nursery Education

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the number of children in each local education authority and in Wales in full- or part-time nursery education; and if he will express each total in each authority area, and for Wales, per 100 children of nursery age.

The table below gives for each authority in Wales:

  • (a) the number of pupils aged under five in a nursery school or in a nursery class in a primary school who were receiving education either full-time or part-time in January 1974;
  • (b) the figures in (a) expressed per 100 children aged three and four;
  • (c) the number of pupils aged under five in other classes in primary schools; and
  • (d) the figures in (c) expressed per 100
  • (a)(b)(c)(d)
    AuthorityNumber of PupilsPercentageNumber of PupilsPercentage
    Clwyd8176·94,00333·6
    Dyfed6107·03,59341·3
    Gwent2,34716·54,56432·1
    Gwynedd2,70240·95838·8
    Mid Glamorgan5,57831·84,53225·9
    Powys52119·31,03938·5
    South Glamorgan1,58513·22,87323·8
    West Glamorgan2,37022·13,13629·3
    Wales Total16,53019·624,32328·8

    Prices And Consumer Protection

    Television Sets (Credit Sale)

    52.

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if she will amend the Hire Purchase and Credit Sale Agreements (Control) Order 1973 and the Control of Hiring Order 1973 in order to reduce the initial payments which retirement pensioners are required to make for television sets in hire purchase or credit sale agreements.

    The object of the credit restrictions is to reduce consumer demand and in the absence of any case that particular hardship is caused to one section of the community it seems right that all consumers should be treated alike.

    Weights And Measures Inspectors

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what action is being taken to recruit and train the additional weights and measures inspectors and similar expert staff needing to enforce the increasing volume of consumer protection legislation.

    Local authorities are responsible for the recruitment and training of weights and measures inspectors and other expert staff. An essential feature of the 1975–76 rate support grant settlement is that there should be no expansion in present local authority staff numbers other than that necessary to meet inescapable commitments. However, new consumer protection legislation comes within this category.

    children aged three and four.

    if she will list in the Official Report the number of weights and measures staff in post and the number of vacancies for such staff existing in each of the London borough councils at the most recent convenient date from sources available to her in annual reports of the authorities concerned.

    All the information for which my hon. Friend asks is not available from the annual reports of the local authorities concerned. But I am obtaining information from another source which I shall send him shortly.

    Consumer Advice Centres

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what steps she is taking to ensure that the local consumer advice centres now in operation, or soon to be opened, will be involved in carrying out the Government's prices policies.

    Local consumer advice centres are already involved in various aspects of the Government's prices policy. They refer appropriate problems to the Price Commission's regional offices, which are developing liaison with them. They work very closely with local authorities' weights and measures departments, which are responsible for enforcing orders under the Prices Act 1974. Many centres also collect and display information about local prices; this helps consumers and encourages local price competition.

    Credit Rating Lists (Sale)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if she will consider introducing legislation to make the sale of the credit ratings of private individuals illegal.

    Under the Consumer Credit Act 1974 no one will be permitted to operate a credit reference agency unless licensed by the Director General of Fair Trading. Licences will not be granted unless the director general is satisfied that that person is fit to operate in this field. In those rare cases where they become available, the bulk records of such agencies will normally be of interest only to other agencies. However, in view of the concern expressed about the recent case I will draw the attention of the director general to the point raised by my hon. Friend.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Rabbits

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he proposes to take to reduce the rabbit infestation in north Bedfordshire.

    This is a matter for occupiers of the land concerned. Advice on control techniques is available from my Department.

    Milk

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what consideration is being given to the idea of central collecting points for milk by the Milk Marketing Board; what discussions have been held with NUAAW and other bodies representing agricultural interests; and if he will make a statement.

    Collection of milk from farms and consultation with interested organisations are matters for the Milk Marketing Board.

    Productivity

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what statistics of agricultural productivity per worker and per acre are available for the United Kingdom and other members of the EEC; and if he will publish the latest figures in table form in the Official Report.

    For the United Kingdom, information on the gross agricultural product per person engaged in the industry was provided in Table 18 of the 1974 Annual Review While Paper (Cmnd. 5565). Corresponding figures are not readily available for other members of the EEC but the European Commission's 1974 Report on the state of agriculture in the Community provided the following figures for the annual rate of growth in labour productivity in the Six:

    LABOUR PRODUCTIVITY
    CountryAnnual Rate of Growth 1967–69 to 1971–73
    Per cent.
    W. Germany5·7
    France4·1
    Italy5·2
    Netherlands6·5
    Belgium7·8
    Luxembourg3·7
    The Commission shows a figure for the United Kingdom of 5 per cent. but the figures in Cmnd. 5565 indicate an annual growth in productivity in the United Kingdom of 6½ per cent. for this period.I regret that corresponding figures for productivity per acre are not available. In the case of the United Kingdom this is because of changes in the definition and coverage of the agricultural acreage statistics.

    Rod Licence Charges

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many objections he has received to the proposed charges to take effect from 1st April 1975 of the Southern Water Authority for rod licences as specified in the authority's notice dated 14th November 1974 relating to the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act 1972; and if he will make a statement.

    Metrication

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will have discussions with the European Council of Ministers and Commission to ensure that all directives and regulations relating to the dairy industry specify metric and imperial measures, in view of the popular preference to retain traditional units of measurement in the dairy industry.

    Community legislation naturally embodies the international system (SI) of units of measurement. However, it was agreed at the time of accession that the United Kingdom could retain imperial units for its own use at least until the end of 1979, and beyond for special reasons.

    Civil Service

    Pensions (Former Civil Servants)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what would be the estimated cost to the Exchequer of restoring to established civil servants who left the service from 1960 onwards the pension benefits to which they would have been entitled upon transfer had Section 6 of the Principal Civil Service Scheme 1973 been in operation from 1st January 1960 to the date of inception of the scheme; and what he estimates to be the number of such civil servants reckoned to have lost such accrued benefits during such period.

    Information on which to base an estimate is not readily available. To carry out the necessary research would involve a disproportionate cost to public funds.

    Secretaries (London)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what salaries and allowances are currently being paid to personal and senior personal secretaries in central London in the public service.

    The salaries and allowances currently being paid to personal and senior personal secretaries in central London in the Civil Service are:SALARY SCALES(INNER LONDON RATES)

    Personal Secretary:

    £1,957; £2,027; £2,097; £2,167; £2,240 £2,315; £2,390.

    Senior Personal Secretary:

    £2,277; £2,384; £2,491; £2,598; £2,705; £2,812.

    The above rates include an Inner London weighting of £410 but exclude threshold payments of £229·68.

    Personal secretaries and senior personal secretaries may also qualify for typing and shorthand or audio proficiency payments ranging from £63 to £252 per annum.

    Higher Grade Civil Servants

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if, in view of recent salary awards, he will publish an up-to-date list of the information given to the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare on 12th December 1974, using the same lower limit of £7,000.

    The salary information given in my reply to the hon. Member on 12th December 1974—[Vol. 883, c. 239–40.]—remains unchanged except for the top three grades whose salary revisions following the Government's acceptance of the recommendations of the Top Salaries Review Body are as follows. These are paid in two instalments in the case of the top two grades:

    Permanent Secretary

    • £18,675 from 1st January 1975.
    • £21,000 from 1st January 1976.

    Deputy Secretary

    • £14,000 from 1st January 1975.
    • £15,000 from 1st January 1976.

    Under Secretary

    • £12,000 from 1st January 1975.

    Her Majesty's Stationery Office

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will make a statement on the loss to HMSO of the advertising account for "Trade and Industry" and its transfer to a private agency.

    By agreement between the two Departments, and after consultation with the staff side of HMSO, the responsibility for selling advertiseing space in "Trade and Industry" was transferred in 1974 to the Department of Industry, which has now engaged a contractor to undertake the necessary canvassing.

    Government Offices (Dispersal)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service (1) how many civil servants are currently employed in Scotland, Wales and each of the eight English regions which are served by regional economic planning councils; and what were the figures for each of the past five years;(2) how many Civil Service jobs have been dispersed, under the policy of decentralisation of central Government functions, to Scotland, Wales, and each of the eight English regions which are served by regional economic planning councils in each year since the scheme began; and what are the projected figures for each of the next five years.

    The information needed to answer these Questions is not readily available and I am not, therefore, able to give my hon. Friend detailed replies today. I hope to be able to publish full answers shortly.

    Oil Industry

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many civil servants are employed in Scotland and England, respectively, in each of the Petroleum Production Division of the Department of Energy, the Offshore Supplies Office, the North Sea Oil Support Unit and the Scottish Industrial Development Office; and what are the costs involved.

    The information is as follows:

    Number of staffApproximate annual costs based on average salary
    £
    Petroleum Production Division:
    Scotland526,000
    England72315,000
    Offshore Supplies Office:
    Scotland100374,000
    England53224,000
    North Sea Oil Support Unit:
    Scotland53210,000
    England
    Scottish Industrial Development Office:
    Scotland151381,400
    England

    Defence

    Departmental Staff

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he can yet say whether the defence cuts announced in his statement of 3rd December 1974 will result in any reduction in the number of civil servants employed by the Ministry of Defence.

    As I said on 3rd December, the reductions in directly employed civilians will be about 30,000, approximately half of whom will be civilians locally entered abroad.

    Textiles (Departmental Purchases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will instruct his Department to purchase all future textile requirements from British manufacturers.

    Royal Yacht And Queen's Flight

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the cost in the latest most convenient year of the Royal Yacht and of the Queen's Flight; and to what account they were charged.

    The costs of the Royal Yacht and the Queen's Flight in the financial year 1973–74 were of the order of £1·65 million and £1 million respectively. These costs continue to be borne on the defence budget.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will place in the Official Report the annual cost of the Queen's Flight and an account of its rôle in defence.

    The annual cost of the Queen's Flight is of the order of £1 million. It is primarily established to provide for the routine official journeys of the Royal Family within the United Kingdom and Europe. It has also been used for many years by the Prime Minister and other senior Ministers, the Chiefs of Staff and distinguished foreign visitors.Special considerations of flight safety, aircraft safety and physical security apply to the air movement of Her Majesty the Queen, other members of the Royal Family and the non-Royal passengers who use Queen's Flight aircraft. These requirements can best be met by a self-contained specialist Service unit. Apart from the peace-time communication flights carried out for Ministry of Defence passengers, its defence role is to supplement military air transport resources in emergency or war.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will undertake to withdraw the Royal Yacht "Britannia" and the Queen's Flight as a contribution to the reduction in defence expenditure.

    Tidworth Garrison Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are his plans for the future of the Tidworth Garrison Hospital; and whether he will make a statement.

    The Defence Medical Services Inquiry Committee recommended that the Army hospital at Tidworth and the RAF hospital at Wroughton should be amalgamated and that the future location and responsibility for running the new amalgamated hospital should be studied by the Ministry of Defence. These studies are at an advanced stage and I expect to be able to make an announcement shortly.

    Northern Ireland

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence under what circumstances private David Armstrong was shot dead at Curdwood Park Ulster Defence Regiment Centre, Belfast, on 28th January 1975.

    Private David Armstrong of the Ulster Defence Regiment sustained a fatal gunshot wound on the evening of 28th January 1975 at Girdwood Park Barracks, Belfast.The circumstances of his death are under investigation by the Royal Ulster Constabulary, assisted by the Royal Military Police, and a report will be submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions, Northern Ireland in due course.No person has yet been charged with an offence arising from this incident.

    Recruiting Publicity

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what study he has made of the effect of Armed Forces recruiting advertisements on industrial employment; and if he will ban recruiting advertisements on television and in the Press which could damage industrial production by attacking industrial jobs as dull and routine.

    To the extent that the Armed Services and industrial employers compete in the same labour market, recruiting publicity for the Forces must inevitably have an effect on industrial employment. Advertisements for the Forces portray the career advantages the Services have to offer, such as the variety of Service life and the acquisition of skills and experience; the latter stand recruits in good stead when they return to civilian life and are of great benefit to industry at that stage. I do not think that such advertisements constitute a threat to industrial production or that there is a need to ban them.

    Officers' Pay

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many serving officers, and of what rank, receive basic pay in excess of £7,000.

    The total number of serving officers receiving basic pay in excess of £7,000 a year in each of the three Services is as follows:

    Royal Navy and Royal Marines289
    Army459
    RAF282
    Total1,030
    These are officers of the rank of Captain RN—with at least six years' seniority—Colonel RM, Brigadier, Air Commodore and above; medical and dental officers of the rank of Surgeon Commander, Lieutenant Colonel and Wing Commander—with at least eight years' seniority—and above; Army and RAF legal officers of the rank of Colonel and Group Captain—with at least six years' seniority—and above; and a few others. Basic pay has been taken as including X factor but excluding threshold payments.

    South Africa (Supplies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if it is his policy to impose an absolute ban on the supply of all military equipment and military spare parts to the Union of South Africa; and, if not, what items will continue to be supplied.

    The policy of Her Majesty's Government was set out in the statement which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs made to the House on 4th December 1974.—[Vol. 882, c. 1550.]

    Cadets

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what opportunities exist for those who do not attend schools that continue education to the age of 18 years to join the Combined Cadet Force.

    They may join a local detachment of the Army Cadet Force, the Sea Cadet Corps or the Air Training Corps, as may those who attend schools which do not have a Combined Cadet Force contingent.

    Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consultations he has now had, and is now having, with NATO allies and other nations likely to be affected by the proposed cuts in defence expenditure.

    I cannot yet add to what I told the House in the defence debate on 16th December 1974. The consultations with our allies are still in progress and are expected to be completed later this month.

    19701971197219731974
    ROYAL AIR FORCE STATIONS
    Home
    Acklington1927112322
    Brawdy52
    Chivenor10010790104111
    Coltishall4639273650
    Leconfield5659585052
    Leuchars5240444145
    Lossiemouth93786
    Manston29
    Thorney Island911131074
    Valley72891007974
    Other United Kingdom stations9312
    Overseas
    Akrotiri149521
    Bahrein31
    Sharjah3
    Singapore43
    Total Royal Air Force460487460379534
    ROYAL NAVAL AIR STATIONS
    CuldroseNot available516173
    Lee-on-Solent38109128
    Portland111031
    Prestwick9712
    Other Units255
    Total Royal Navy3873192249

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many vessels and aircraft are available for air-sea rescue work, civilian and military; and where they are situated.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consultations he has had with representatives of shipbuilding firms likely to be affected by the proposed cuts in defence expenditure.

    My Department has continuing discussions with the main warship building firms on the naval new construction programme and these consultations at present embrace the defence review. We are also in touch with those other major shipbuilding firms which build ships for the Royal Navy.

    Air-Sea Rescue

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many times helicopters have been called on in air-sea rescue and search operations for each year since 1970; and from which bases they took place.

    Our records do not distinguish between rescue operations over land and those over the sea, and the figures for 1970 and 1971 are not complete. Subject to that, the information in respect of Service helicopters is as follows:

    In the United Kingdom, the Royal Air Force deploys 8 detachments, of two Whirlwind helicopters each, at Acklington, Brawdy, Chivenor, Coltishall, Leconfield, Leuchars, Lossiemouth and Valley, together with a detachment of two Wessex helicopters at Manston, at high states of readiness specifically for air-sea rescue work. The Royal Navy similarly deploys two detachments of two Whirlwinds each at Culdrose and Lee-on-Solent. For long-range search and rescue, the Royal Air Force maintains a Nimrod aircraft on permanent standby at either Kinloss or St. Mawgan. A considerable number of other aircraft can be made available by both Services in emergency to back up these primary facilities.Neither the Royal Navy nor the Royal Air Force maintains surface vessels specifically for search and rescue but all vessels have an accepted international obligation to assist in emergencies at sea. The Services can provide a wide range of assistance when required.No distinction is made between civil and military incidents when responding to an emergency call.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many air-sea searches by Nimrod aircraft have been carried out for each of the years since 1970.

    The information is as follows:

    United KingdomOverseas
    19706
    197181
    1972237
    1973335
    1974249
    Until 1972 the majority of long-range air-sea searches were carried out by the Shackleton and the figures for this aircraft are as follows:

    United KingdomOverseas
    19706923
    19715914
    1972210
    197360
    197440

    National Parks

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) how much national park land he has released for public use over the past two years;(2) if he has any plans to release more national park land for use by the general public.

    Within the last two years my Department has arranged to allow greater access to 2,400 acres of land in national parks over which we have firing rights, has relinquished such rights completely over a further 460 acres, and has declared eight acres surplus to defence requirements.In addition, we intend to meet the recommendations made in the report of the Defence Lands Committee 1971–73 to allow greater access to 8,500 acres, to relinquish rights over a further 301 acres, and to dispose of 579 acres of freehold and leasehold land in national parks. The use to which land is put after disposal is a matter for the new owners and the planning authorities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the total acreage of national park land owned or leased by the Ministry of Defence.

    Approximately 71,000 acres of freehold and 9,000 acres of leasehold. I would draw my hon. Friend's attention to the table on pages 61–63 of the report of the Defence Lands Committee 1971–73.

    Baor (Television)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what will be the initial and estimated annual cost of providing the recently announced television channel for British forces in the Federal Republic of West Germany.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to my answer to the hon. Member for Stroud (Mr. Kershaw) on 17th January 1975.—[Vol. 884, c. 178–9].

    Education And Science

    Colleges Of Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what was the total amount of public expenditure on colleges of education in Great Britain and in each of the English regions for the latest year for which figures are available; and if he will express the total expenditure per capita of each student attending such institutions;(2) what was the total amount of public expenditure on colleges of education in Wales for the latest year for which figures are available; and if he will express the total expenditure per capita of each student attending such institutions.

    For the financial year 1972–73, in respect of England and Wales the table below gives net recurrent public expenditure on colleges of education and net expenditure per student, maintained and voluntary colleges taken together. Regional figures for England could be produced only with disproportionate labour. Information in respect of Scottish colleges is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland.

    Total net expenditure1972–73 outturn price Net unit cost per student
    £m.£
    England65·0579·0
    Wales3·7535·0
    England and Wales68·7576·5
    These figures exclude loan charges, capital expenditure from revenue and expenditure on student support.

    Polytechnic Students

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of students at polytechnics studied arts, social science, engineering and scientific subjects, respectively, in each year from 1969 to 1974; and how this compares with university undergraduates.

    The percentage of full-time and sandwich course students in polytechnics and universities who were studying each subject to first degree level in each of the three years for which figures for the 30 polytechnics are at present available was as follows:

    SUBJECT GROUP*
    Arts, etc. (Groups 8, 9 and 10)
    Academic year beginningPolytechnicsUniversities
    19719·822·1
    19729·622·0
    1973†8·622·1
    Social studies (Group 6)
    Academic year beginningPolytechnicsUniversities
    197134·221·3
    197234·521·8
    1973†35·922·4

    Technology (Group 3)

    Academic year beginning

    Polytechnics

    Universities

    197128·016·8
    197227·516·1
    1973†26·315·3

    Science (Group 5)

    Academic year beginning

    Polytechnics

    Universities

    197120·825·5
    197220·225·4
    1973†19·125·0

    Other (Groups 1, 2, 4 and 7)

    Academic year beginning

    Polytechnics

    Universities

    19717·214·3
    19728·214·7
    1973†10·115·2

    * Classified according to the 10 Subject Groups in the United Kingdom Subject Classification for Education Statistics.

    † Provisional.

    Further Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what was the total amount of public expenditure on further education in Great Britain and in each of the English regions for the latest year for which figures are available; and if he will express the total expenditure per capita of each student attending such institutions;(2) what was the total amount of public expenditure on further education in Wales for the latest year for which figures are available; and if he will express the total expenditure per capita of each student attending such institutions.

    In the financial year 1972–73, for England and Wales the net recurrent expenditure on further education and expenditure per student are shown in the table below. Regional figures for England could be provided only with disproportionate labour. Figures for Scotland are the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland.

    Total net recurrent expenditure1972–73 outturn prices Unit cost per student*
    £m.£
    England313·1464·3
    Wales14·3403·0
    England and Wales327·4461·2
    * Part-time students are included on a full-time equivalent basis.
    These figures exclude loan charges, capital expenditure met from revenue and expenditure on student support.
    (a) DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND SCIENCE EXPENDITURE
    Financial Year
    1963–641964–651965–661966–671967–68
    Recurrent (£000 at outturn prices)8791,0231,0721,1831,262
    Capital (£000 at outturn prices)476756
    Financial Year
    1968–691969–701970–711971–721972–73
    Recurrent (£000 at outturn prices)1,3941,5471,8072,0172,371
    Capital (£000 at outturn prices)1004624310
    As regards local education authority expenditure, information is not available about (i) the years 1963–64 to 1968–69, (ii) recurrent expenditure on adult education in major establishments of further education or (iii) capital expenditure. Recurrent expenditure on evening institutes for the years 1969–73 was as follows:

    Financial yearNet recurrent expenditure (£000 at outturn prices)
    1969–7010,079
    1970–7111,455
    1971–7212,702
    1972–7315,517
    Within broad limits, it is for local authorities to decide how to deploy their resources among the services they provide and I cannot forecast what they will choose to spend on adult education in 1975–76. Subject to approval by Parliament, I hope to be able to afford a modest increase for the direct grant sector.

    Environment

    Pollution Control

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the implementation of the Control of Pollution Act 1974, following the circular on local government expenditure dated 23rd December 1974.

    Adult Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much money has gone into adult education for each of the last 10 years; and whether he is now in a position to forecast expenditure in this sector next year.

    Following are the figures for each of the last 10 years for which information is available:

    The wide-ranging provisions of the Control of Pollution Act 1974 can only be introduced in stages, as some of them are dependent on the implementation of others. It will therefore take time to bring the Act into full operation. In view of its importance to the environment we are anxious to press ahead as quickly as possible. Some of the provisions have, however, significant implications for local authority expenditure. The need to restrict increases in such expenditure to a minimum makes it inevitable that the implementation of these provisions should be delayed.We are inviting local authority associations to discuss with us at once the timetable and expenditure implications of the various provisions so that we can make as rapid progress as the financial constraints allow. The phasing we have in mind is as follows.

    Waste on Land

    On waste disposal, the Government have already indicated that the first priority must be to place on waste disposal authorities the duty, provided for in Part I of the Act, to survey waste and waste disposal facilities in their areas. We know that many authorities are keen to start on this survey, which will make minimal demands for new manpower, and we believe that they will find it helpful to have statutory backing. Other important provisions which we should hope to bring in quickly are those allowing local authorities to reclaim waste, to buy it for reclamation, and to dispose usefully either of the waste itself or of anything produced from it; and the provision placing a duty on local authorities to prepare—in consultation with appropriate voluntary organisations—a plan for abating litter. In addition we shall be aiming at the very early introduction of those provisions, such as the increase in penalties for existing pollution offences, which involve local authorities in little or no additional expenditure.

    We have already agreed with the local authority associations that the placing of a statutory duty on waste disposal authorities to produce a formal waste disposal plan should be deferred for a year. The exact timing will need to be discussed further, as will the introduction of the licensing system for waste disposal sites. The Government accept that the earliest date at which we can hope to introduce these related provisions, as well as others which are less urgent, will be the beginning of the financial year 1976–77. We can, however, take advantage of the intervening period to work out with the local authority associations the form of the regulations needed to fill out the details of the licensing system.

    Pollution of Water

    As regards water pollution, the Government's aim will be to bring the main provisions of Part II of that Act into operation in two interrelated steps between the late autumn of this year and the middle of 1976.

    The first step will include activating the consent system and the transitional provisions relating to consents.

    The second step will consist of bringing into force the sections which make it an offence subject to specified penalties for anyone to pollute water or to discharge trade or sewage effluent without consent. The main effect will be to bring under full control any specified underground water and all tidal waters up to the 3-mile limit.

    The period between now and the taking of the first step in the late autumn is needed for consultation with water authorities and other interested parties on the substance of the necessary orders and regulations; and a period of at least six months is needed between the first and second steps to allow time for dischargers to make the necessary applications for consents for discharges not covered by earlier legislation before the offence and penalty provisions are brought into force.

    During roughly the same period it is proposed to activate most of the remaining provisions of Part II, including the extension of full control of all discharges of trade effluent to public sewers, the powers and duties of water authorities to remedy or forestall pollution and the provisions regarding the discharge of waste from boats. There will again be consultation with interested parties.

    It is not proposed at this juncture to implement the provisions of Section 52 of the Act in so far as they relate to charges for direct discharges of trade or sewage effluent to inland and tidal waters. In the Government's view this matter calls for further study, in consultation with the National Water Council.

    The Government appreciate that while the implementation of Part II of the Act in the manner described above will materially improve the system for controlling water pollution, the economic situation is bound to limit the rate at which the quality of our rivers, estuaries and coastal waters may be improved as a result of the new legislation, particularly where improvement depends on expenditure by water authorities, and industry, on new works and treatment processes.

    Noise

    A number of provisions in Part III of the Act dealing with the control of noise have no financial implications for local authorities. These include the provisions for simplifying and strengthening existing legislation about nuisance from noise; the making of regulations covering noise from plant or machinery; codes of practice for minimising noise; a definition of best practicable means; increased penalties for existing offences; and interpretive and supplementary provisions. We propose that these provisions should be brought into effect as soon as possible.

    There are two duties imposed upon local authorities in Part III of the Act. The first of these requires an authority to inspect its area from time to time for noise nuisance and to decide upon its noise abatement zone policy. The second requires a local authority to make its noise requirements known in response to an application from anyone carrying out construction works. The first of these is similar to a duty imposed by the Public Health Act 1936 and the second will be supported by a code of practice which will be available to assist local authorities in the control of construction site noise. The financial implications in both cases therefore seem likely to be limited. We propose to consult local authorities with the object of implementing as soon as practicable the provisions dealing with noise from construction sites and allowing the establishment of noise abatement zones.

    Pollution of the atmosphere

    As with other parts of the Act, the Government consider that the clean air provisions which place no additional financial burden on local authorities should be implemented as soon as possible. These include the provisions enabling the Secretary of State to make regulations dealing with motor fuel and the sulphur content of oil fuel; clarification of the offence of cable burning; and the increase in penalties for existing offences. Another will be the provision allowing existing enactments to be adapted to metric units.

    The remaining provisions in Part IV give local authorities the power to obtain information about air pollution. These information gathering powers are likely to be used only where air pollution is a matter of real public concern and they should not involve local authorities in significant expenditure in the near future. We therefore propose to consult local authorities with the intention of bringing

    Darkness

    Daylight

    Number

    Percentage change

    Number

    Percentage change

    A and A(M) Roads:
    Fatal587+9268-13
    Serious5,221-53,467-8
    Fatal and serious5,808-43,735-9
    Other Roads:
    Fatal407+6250+1
    Serious5,422+34,213-9
    Fatal and serious5,829+34,463-9
    All Roads:
    Fatal994+8518-7
    Serious10,643-17,680-9
    Fatal and serious11,6378,198-9

    Notes:

    (1) It is estimated that traffic mileage fell by about 5 per cent. between the two periods.
    (2) Less severe reductions in lighting were made on A and A(M) roads than that on other lower class roads.
    (3) Driving conditions and behaviour were affected by a number of special factors during the winter of 1973–74 all of which may have contributed to changes in the pattern of road accidents.

    these provisions into effect as soon as possible.

    General

    We shall also bring into effect in the near future the provision enabling the Secretary of State to make regulations to ban or restrict the marketing or use of injurious substances.

    Scotland

    In Scotland, the new authorities which will be responsible for implementing the provisions of the Act do not come into full operation until 16th May. Subject to consultations with them and to such modifications as may be shown to be desirable because of their later establishment, my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland proposes that broadly the same procedures should be followed, so far as the timetable for Scotland allows.

    Road Accidents

    61.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the preliminary study of urban roads in the United Kingdom over the period of reduced public lighting in 1973–74 showed that there was an overall increase in fatal and serious accidents at night compared with a decrease in accidents on the same roads in daylight; and whether he is able to estimate the percentage increase and decrease in each case.

    The following table shows casualties on urban roads in Great Britain in the period 16th November 1973 to 12th March 1974 and percentage changes compared with the corresponding period of 1972–73:

    Squatters

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he is able to estimate the number of properties currently in the occupation of squatters in England and Wales;(2) whether he is able to estimate the number of persons currently occupying buildings as squatters in England and Wales.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will move to set up a Select Committee to consider the phenomenon of squatting and to make recommendations.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he will now introduce appropriate legislation to impose upon all persons who occupy property as squatters a duty to register with the local rent office their true identities and the date of their entry into occupation;(2) whether he will now introduce appropriate legislation to enable the owner of a property which is occupied by squatters to recover from such persons compensation for the use and enjoyment of the premises for such time as they remain in occupation thereof, calculated as if the squatter had implicitly agreed to pay a fair rent fixed by the rent officer.

    Homeless Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what advice he has given to local authorities on the housing of the homeless, and the practice of providing bed and breakfast accommodation; if he is satisfied with the response; and if he will make a statement.

    My hon. Friend will be aware of the extensive advice in the joint circular of February last year—DOE Circular 18/74. My right hon. Friend proposes to issue further guidance to authorities about more satisfactory provision for the homeless.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will give further guidance to local authorities as to the definition of "the homeless" referred to in paragraph 30 C of Circular 70/74.

    Local authorities have already been given guidance in the joint circular on homelessness—DOE Circular 18/74—of February last year.

    Rent Allowances

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what surveys have been undertaken by his Department to ascertain the numbers and proportion of private landlord tenants applying for rent allowances; what the surveys reveal; and what steps he proposes to increase the take-up by those who are entitled to such allowances.

    The number of private tenants who have successfully applied for rent allowances is collected annually by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy and in periodic returns to the Department by local authorities. This number as a proportion of those who are eligible is derived from the Family Expenditure Survey, and is estimated at between 20 per cent. and 25 per cent. The results of a special survey undertaken by the Office of Population and Census Surveys to monitor the extent to which tenants knew of, had applied for, and were receiving, rent rebates and allowances, are now being assessed. Departmental research directed towards seeking the reasons for unsatisfactory take-up levels will be completed this year, and local authorities will be consulted on the follow-up action necessary to improve it.

    Building (Local Authorities' Powers)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek powers to relax the regulations governing the operation of local authority building departments with a view to allowing them to undertake work in other local authority areas.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to introduce legislation to enable the public works department of one local authority to undertake work for another authority.

    I am very conscious of the difficulty which my hon. Friends wish me to overcome, and I am anxious to deal with it. But there are a number of problems and legislation would be involved.

    Housing (Public Service Employees)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, to expedite the acquisition of vacant properties by local authorities, he will revise Circular 70/74 paragraph 30c so as to delete the words "and the acquisition of which would be for the purpose of housing essential public service employees or the homeless".

    Housing (Agricultural Workers)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authorities have a policy of allocating a proportion of their council house stock for retiring agricultural workers; which councils in Leicestershire operate such a scheme; and if he will issue a circular recommending such a policy to be operated in appropriate areas.

    The allocation of council housing is a matter for local authorities and I do not hold information on the individual practices operated. My right hon. Friend has no plans to issue a circular of the kind suggested by the hon. Member, but if he has any evidence of hardship I should be glad to study it.

    London Orbital Road (Hertfordshire)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many acres of agricultural land will be required for each of the proposed routes for the London outer orbital route, Micklefield Green-South Mimms.

    At this preliminary stage it is not possible to provide detailed information of the acreage of agricultural land which would be required, but the approximate area of all land required is tabulated for comparison purposes in the consultation document, a copy of which was sent to the hon. Member.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to announce a decision regarding the route of the proposed London outer orbital route, Micklefield Green-South Mimms.

    My right hon. Friend hopes to make an announcement at about the middle of the year.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish the representations he has received regarding the route of the proposed London outer orbital route from Micklefield Green to South Mimms.

    An analysis of the representations received will be published in summary form when the decision on the route is announced.

    Transport Grants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if there has been any change or development in the Government's attitude towards local authority subsidies for public transport since the publication of the Joint Departmental Circular of 23rd December 1974; and if he will make a statement.

    No. At a time when bus costs are rising rapidly, substantial fare increases are necessary if the growth in public expenditure is to be restrained.

    Bury, Lancashire

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what further consideration he proposes to give to the Bury Metropolitan District Council's town centre development plans following his decision concerning the Picc-Vic rail tunnel.

    Such plans are a matter for the district council and the Greater Manchester County Council.

    Local Government Employees' Pay

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local government employees, and of what rank, grade and post, receive basic pay in excess of £7,000.

    Manchester Underground Railway Link

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he took into account at the time of making his decision on the Picc-Vic rail tunnel project the high level of land investment towards this project made by the Bury Metropolitan District Council.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in reaching his decision on the Picc-Vic rail tunnel project, he considered the high level of land investment in the Bolton metropolitan area by the local authority.

    It is for the responsible local authorities to consider the implications of my recent decision on the level of estimated expenditure on transport matters in 1975–76 by the Greater Manchester Council which could be accepted for the calculation for transport supplementary grant.

    Westminster Hall

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is holding up the repair of the roof of Westminster Hall.

    The work to the roof has been completed except covering with stone slates. Westmorland stone slates are required for this purpose. Their production is highly specialised, as each has to be hand cut to a particular size. Delivery of the slates will begin shortly.

    Waste Paper

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what specific action he proposes to take to assist those local authorities which have responded to appeals to launch waste paper collections and which are now experiencing considerable difficulty in disposing of large quantities of waste paper as a result of the present substantial surplus.

    Cyclical fluctuations are unfortunately a feature of the waste paper trade, and the Green Paper "War on Waste" published last September recognised that they were a serious disincentive to local authority salvage schemes. The Government's Advisory Group on the Recycling of Waste Paper is, therefore, giving special attention to ways in which the market might be stabilised.

    Government Cars

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the number of cars available for the Civil Service in London; what was the figure in 1965; and if he will make proposals for a reduction to save fuel.

    Government Car Service cars form a single pool which is drawn upon by both Ministers and officials. The availability of cars to Ministers and officials is determined by criteria of priority of need. The number of cars in the pool in 1965 and 1975 is, respectively, 158 and 202.The cars available today are, however, of a less luxurious standard than those available in 1965. The main cars in use are Rover 3·5s, Wolseley 6s and Wolseley 18/85s, whereas in 1965 the main cars in use were Austin Princess 4 litre, Humber Imperial 3 litre, Humber Super Snipe 3 litre and Humber Hawk 2½ litre, which were less economical on fuel consumption than the present cars.Other Government Departments operate car pools on a more limited scale, but in the time available it is not possible to determine the number of cars employed in London only.The use of these cars instead of public transport is authorised only when it is essential to enable the individual concerned to do his work more effectively and economically, or to avoid a disproportionate loss of official time. Many of the vehicles are employed at times of day or in localities where public transport does not operate.The need for fuel economy is borne very much in mind by the officers responsible for authorising the use of these cars.I do not, therefore, propose to make any reduction in the numbers employed.

    Road Lighting

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is yet in a position to make a statement on the existing level of road lighting; and if he will take into account, in the context of road safety, the possibility of achieving fuel savings without loss of illumination by using more efficient systems.

    The most efficient lighting systems available at design stage are used for roads for which the Secretary of State is responsible, taking account where necessary of individual needs. Schemes are modernised as the need for renewal occurs.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the energy savings achievable at no loss of efficiency by changing from tungsten and mercury light sources to sodium lamps, if he will consider ways of encouraging local authorities to make the capital investment needed to achieve these.

    I am confident that local authorities are well aware of the savings that can be achieved by installing more efficient lighting sources. The ability of local authorities to modernise lighting systems is to some extent dependent on their available resources, and it is their responsibility to determine their financial priorities.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations have been made to him concerning the need to reduce the level of street lighting, both in urban areas and on motorways; and whether he will now make a statement.

    Some representations have been made to reduce the level of street lighting and others to maintain it. My right hon. Friend has the matter under review.

    Employment

    Short-Time Working

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the numbers of people working five days a week, four days a week, three days a week and less than three days a week, respectively, in January 1974; and how these figures compare with the latest date for which figures are available.

    I regret that information in this form is not available. However, returns obtained from firms in manufacturing industries relating to the week ending 19th January 1974 showed that about 1,130,000 operatives were on short-time during the week and a further 8,000 were stood off for the whole of the week. The corresponding figures for 16th November, the latest period for which figures are available, are 64,000 and 18,000 respectively.

    Unemployed Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what number of the registered workers are unemployed in Wales, Scotland and England, respectively; and what proportion of the total number of registered workers in these countries, respectively, do the unemployed represent.

    Following is the information for 20th January 1975:

    Number unemployedPercentage rate of unemployment*
    Wales48,0004·7
    Scotland103,0004·8
    England591,0003·0
    * The number unemployed expressed as a percentage of the total number of employees, including the unemployed.
    The figures for this date have been obtained using a special simplified counting procedure. They may not be as accurate as the normal monthly figures and should be treated only as approximate indications.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report the average expenditure in pounds sterling from public funds per unemployed person in the United Kingdom. France, West Germany and Sweden on (a) unemployment support, including supplementary allowance, and (b) retraining and relocation in the latest year for which the information is available.

    In the financial year 1973–74 the average expenditure per unemployed person in Great Britain on unemployment benefit and supplementary allowance was £165 and on relocation £2·2. No separate figure for retraining per unemployed person is available.The information for the whole of the United Kingdom, France, West Germany and Sweden is not available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make it a practice to distinguish in the figures of unemployment issued by his Department the following categories of persons: (a) those who have been unemployed for more than six months, (b) those who have been unemployed for more than four months but less than six months, (c) those who have been unemployed for more than two months but less than four months, (d) those who have been unemployed for more than one month but less than two months, (e) those who have been unemployed for more than two weeks but less than one month, (f) those who have been unemployed for less than two weeks, (g) those who are technically unemployed by reason of industrial dispute, and (h) those who are regarded as unemployed by reason of some physical or personal disability.

    The information requested on duration of unemployment is already published, once a quarter, in the Department of Employment Gazette, with the exception that a division is made at three months but not at four months. The latest figures were published in the November 1974 issue of the Gazette (p. 1051). A less detailed analysis is made in the intervening months.The unemployment figures do not include those who are temporarily out of work as the result of an industrial dispute if they expect to return to their job.Severely disabled persons who are unlikely to obtain a job except under special conditions are excluded from the unemployment figures. Other registered disabled persons, who are included in the figures, are separately distinguished each month in a special note in the

    Gazette, most recently on page 1144 of the December 1974 Gazette.

    Halesowen And Stourbridge

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the unemployment figures for men and women in Halesowen and Stourbridge at the most recent count, compared with the figures for one year ago.

    The most recent information available is contained in the reply which I gave to the hon. Member on 9th December 1974.—[Vol. 883, c. 17–19.] Owing in industrial action at local offices of the Employment Service Agency, figures for December 1974 and January 1975 are not available.

    Labour Mobility

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the rate of geographical mobility of labour within the Uunited Kingdom in 1973 or the most recently available year; and how this compares with the rates 10 and 20 years previously.

    There are no statistics available which measure the rate of geographical mobility of labour within the United Kingdom. Some information will be available in due course from the 1971 Census of Population showing the number of economically active persons who had moved across regional boundaries in Great Britain within one and five years of the census—i.e., whose addresses at the census date were in a different region from their addresses one and five years previously.

    Nationalised Industries' Employees' Pay

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many employees of the nationalised industries receive basic pay in excess of £7,000.

    Ship Repairing (Wales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons are employed in the ship-repairing industry in Wales.

    At June 1973, the latest date for which information is available, there were 1,600 persons employed in shipbuilding, ship repairing and marine engineering in Wales. Separate figures for ship repairing are not available.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Textiles (Departmental Purchases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the total value of textile goods purchased by his Department during the past 12 months.

    Expenditure by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office on the purchase of textile goods in the United Kingdom during the calendar year 1974 was £29,945. Figures for local purchases by Her Majesty's diplomatic missions overseas are not readily available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what percentage of textile goods, over the last 12 months, has been purchased from British manufacturers by his Department.

    During 1974, 68 per cent. of the textile goods purchased by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in the United Kingdom were obtained direct from British manufacturers. The balance was obtained either from other Government Departments or the Post Office. It is not possible to state what percentage of textile goods purchased locally by Her Majesty's diplomatic missions overseas was obtained from British manufacturers.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will instruct his Department to purchase all future textile requirements from British manufacturers.

    This is already done in the United Kingdom. As for Her Majesty's diplomatic missions abroad, this is impracticable. A very small volume of purchases is involved and they are normally made on an emergency basis only.

    European Economic Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will now announce, following the Prime Minister's statement that he proposes to support the Cabinet's recommendations on the Common Market referendum, how he intends to exercise his option on whether or not to support the recommendation.

    I would refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister to the hon. Gentleman on 28th January.—[Vol. 885, c. 101.]

    Eec Referendum

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will arrange for the Bill on the EEC referendum to contain a preamble, stating that it is the intention of Parliament that this should be a unique event.

    I must ask the hon. Member to await the publication of the White Paper and of the Bill itself.

    Palace Of Westminster

    Waste Paper

    asked the Lord President of the Council how much waste paper is collected within the precincts of the Palace of Westminster in the course of a year; and what happens to it.

    The weight of unclassified waste paper collected from both Houses of Parliament currently totals about 250 tonnes a year. The paper is sold for recycling under a contract administered by HMSO. Classified waste paper is destroyed within the confines of the Houses of Parliament.

    House Of Commons

    Opposition Whips' Office (Staffing)

    asked the Lord President of the Council if he will publish in the Official Report the number and ranks of civil servants made available to the main Opposition party; and if he will state the cost of such provision to public funds.

    I have been asked to reply.There are four civil servants employed in the Office of the Chief Whip of the main Opposition Party—i.e., three office assistants and one chief clerk/superintendent. The current cost is £17,689 per annum.

    Telex Number

    asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will cancel the instruction for the House of Commons telex number to be ex-directory; and, if not, why not.

    No. The installation of a telex in the House of Commons was at the request of the Post Office, which made it clear that it would only be able to handle outgoing traffic.

    Public Relations (Government Expenditure)

    asked the Lord President of the Council what sums have

    Salaries and expenses of information staffOperational expenditureHMSO expenditure on printing and paper
    £000's£000's£000's
    1970–712,394·44,241·01,424·0
    1971–722,797·74,883·51,333·2
    1972–733,105·84,824·11,813·6
    1973–743,765·25,860·02,373·1
    1974–753,744·06,924·32,637·9
    In addition costs on the COI Vote, including staff and administrative expenses, are as follows:

    £000's
    1970–718,831·3
    1971–729,017·5
    1972–7311,057·0
    1973–7413,856·3
    1974–7512,991·1

    Northern Ireland

    Lincoln Court, Londonderry

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) what was the total number of complaints received by the bodies responsible for repairs in respect of houses at Lincoln Court, Londonderry, from the time the first house was occupied until 31st December 1974; or, if the figure from individuals is not available, how many were received from the tenants' association in this area;(2) what is the estimated cost of correcting the defects in the sewerage system of the houses of the Northern Ireland Housing Executive at Lincoln Court, Kilfennan, Londonderry; and what is the number of houses involved;(3) what is the estimated cost of correcting the defects in the houses belonging

    been spent by the Government in each of the last five years on public relations broken down into salaries, fees and other headings.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 23rd January 1975; Vol. 884, c. 472], circulated the following information:Public relations is a term of art and is only incidentally part of the task performed by the Government Information Services. No external public relations organisation is employed by any Government Department, so the question of fees does not arise.The total provision for expenditure on the Home Information Services is as follows:to the Northern Ireland Housing Executive at Lincoln Court, Kilfennan, Londonderry, excluding cost of correcting the defects in the sewerage system;(4) what was the cost of building the houses at Lincoln Court, Kilfennan, Londonderry;(5) when the houses at Lincoln Court, Kilfennan, Londonderry, were completed; and when the final payment was made to the contractors who finished them;(6) whether the normal procedures and timing of payments to the contractors were adhered to regarding the payment for the houses at Lincoln Court, Londonderry;(7) whether any special difficulties were encountered during the building of the houses at Lincoln Court, Londonderry; who were responsible for the original contract; had the firm which was granted that contract any previous experience in the building of an estate of this size; and were any public figures or public representatives, then, or subsequently, members or directors of that firm.

    The following information has been obtained from the Northern Ireland Housing Executive.

    It is regretted that information about the total number of complaints could not be provided without disproportionate effort. The estimated cost of correcting the defects in the houses is not available. So far about £4,000 has been spent on correcting defects in the sewerage system which has affected all 237 houses in the development to a certain extent.

    The contract for building the houses was let for £892,305·15 and the last house was handed over on 7th September 1972. The normal procedures and timing of payments have been adhered to in accordance with the standard form of building contract which was signed by the contracting parties. The final payment to the contractors has not yet been made.

    The area round the site was affected by civil unrest, and labour and material were in short supply. The former Londonderry County Borough Council was responsible for letting the contract. The firm engaged had previous experience in building large estates.

    Information regarding memberships and directorships of the firm of contractors can be obtained from the Companies Registry, Department of Commerce, Belfast.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he expects a community centre to be provided at Lincoln Court, Londonderry.

    The Londonderry District Council plans to begin work on a permanent centre, to serve the Lincoln Court and Waterside Triangle areas, during 1976.

    Firearms

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he has any plans to restrict the number of firearms which can be held by any individual in Northern Ireland; and if so to what level.

    I intend shortly to introduce fresh legislation to impose further and stricter controls over the number of firearms in Northern Ireland.

    Detainees

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will give figures for releases from detention by commissioners and by executive action, respectively, and for ICOs and detention orders made during each of the months from July to November 1974.

    The information is as follows:

    RELEASES
    MonthBy CommissionersBy the Appeal TribunalBy Executive action
    July3318
    August2810
    September23317
    October11214
    November6111
    NEW ICOs AND DETENTION ORDERS
    MonthICOsDetention Orders
    July1126
    August2318
    September924
    October2118
    November233

    Ira (Talks)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will now list the names of the representatives of the Provisional IRA who had talks recently with his officials.

    I do not propose to list the names of members of Provisional Sinn Fein, or other organisations, with whom my officials have had meetings in accordance with my statement in the House on 14th January.—[Vol. 884, c. 201–4.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what security arrangements he made with the representatives of the IRA for safe conduct to and from recent meetings with his officials.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will now list the items on the agenda which were discussed at the recent talks between his officials and representatives of the Provisional IRA.

    There was no agenda for meetings with Provisional Sinn Fein or with other organisations which were held in accordance with my statement in the House on 14th January.—[Vol. 884, c. 201–4.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will now name the venue where the recent talks took place with his authority between his officials and representatives of the Provisional IRA.

    Great Seal Of Northern Ireland

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland where the Great Seal of Northern Ireland is kept; to what extent it is in official use; and whether he will make it available for museums and exhibitions of Ulster interest.

    The Great Seal of Northern Ireland is kept in Belfast by the Clerk of the Crown who holds it on behalf of the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland. The Great Seal is used regularly for sealing official documents such as Letters Patent, Commissions of Assize, election writs and the appointments of judges and lords lieutenant. It would not, therefore, be appropriate or practicable to make it available for public exhibition.

    Social Services

    Nhs Consultants

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps she took to circulate National Health Service consultants with her proposals for their future, together with comments on these proposals by the consultants' organisations; if she is aware that at least a third of the consultants in Avon have not yet received these and if she will investigate this matter.

    The material was circulated just before Christmas by a mailing agency which specialises in distributions to the medical profession. I am sorry that not all consultants received copies, but where my Department was told about omissions copies were sent direct to the individual. I have now also arranged for additional copies to be made available to consultants in the Avon area.

    Doctors

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will publish in the Official Report the figures relating to the overall movement of doctors mentioned in her answer to the right hon. Member for Devon, North (Mr. Thorpe) on 19th December 1974, column 550,Official Report.

    For the purposes of the information following, which relates to doctors in the NHS in England and Wales, a doctor temporarily out of the NHS—for example, between posts—on 30th September is counted as having left during the previous year. The numbers of doctors leaving also includes those lost to the NHS through death, retirement, emigration and transfer to non-NHS posts.

    PeriodNumber of doctors joining the NHSNumber of doctors leaving the NHS
    30th September 1970–30th September 19717,3445,957
    30th September 1971–30th September 19727,8925,961
    30th September 1972–30th September 19738,3236,307

    Hospitals (Closure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she will set out the various stages of the procedure to be followed when it is proposed that a hospital should be closed.

    I am reviewing the procedures for closure or change of use of hospitals and other facilities for health care, in the light of recent consultations with health authorities, local authority associations and professional bodies, and in relation to new planning procedures for health and personal social services. As stated in the Consultative Paper "Democracy in the National Health Service", I have made an immediate change which authorises a health authority to proceed with a proposed closure which has been accepted by the Community Health Council. Otherwise, health authorities are at present required to proceed through three stages: informal consultations, formal consultations and submission for my approval.

    Hospital Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the latest available total of unoccupied beds in hospitals in England and Wales; and how this compares with the position six months and one year previously, respectively.

    Following are the figures of the average daily number of unoccupied beds during the last three available half-year periods:

    1st July 1972 to 31st December 197272,237
    1st January 1973 to 30th June 197380,589
    1st July 1973 to 31st December 197380,557

    Mouth And Foot Painting Exhibition

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether she will arrange for an exhibition relating to the Mouth and Foot Painting Association to be displayed in the Upper Waiting Hall.

    I understand that an exhibition has been arranged and was opened today.

    Hospital Kitchens

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if she is satisfied with existing arrangements to maintain an acceptable standard of hygiene in hospital kitchens; and if she will make a statement.

    Hospital authorities have been told that they must comply with the standards laid down in the Food Hygiene Regulations and that they should invite environmental health officers to inspect hospital kitchens and other areas in hospitals in which food is handled. They have also been reminded to take action promptly to implement any subsequent recommendations. It has been agreed with the Association of Environmental Health Officers that where there appear to be difficulties in visiting hospitals or in meeting the recommendations of the environmental health officers, my Department will be informed.

    Trade

    Nation Life Policyholders

    53.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what steps he is now taking to try to ensure that policyholders in Nation Life can obtain as soon as possible some settlement for policies that they have taken out.

    The affairs of Nation Life Insurance Co. Ltd. are under the control of the court, and my Department is giving the liquidator all the assistance it properly can. The liquidator announced on 20th January that a group of insurance companies may be able to offer modified continuation rights to holders of ordinary life assurance and annuity contracts. It is his intention to make an interim payment against the claims of all policy holders in the liquidation as soon as he is legally in a position to do so.

    Textiles (Departmental Purchases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the total value of textile goods purchased by his Department during the past 12 months.

    I have no separate figures for purchases of textile goods. The general practice is to obtain supplies of textile goods from other Departments and public bodies.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what percentage of textile goods, over the last 12 months, has been purchased from British manufacturers by his Department.

    Purchases are not made direct from manufacturers, and no figures are available of the proportion which is of British manufacture, but I understand that the greater part is of British origin.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will instruct his Department to purchase all future textile requirements from British manufacturers.

    Purchases are not made direct from manufacturers but from other Departments and public bodies. I see no reason to expect any change in the present arrangements for meeting the Department's needs.

    Motor Vehicles (Japan)

    54.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many motor vehicles have been imported from Japan in each of the last three years; what percentage this is of the total sale of motor vehicles in this country; and how it compares with

    197219731974
    United Kingdom imports from Japan (thousand vehicles)699787
    United Kingdom imports from Japan during year as percentage of total United Kingdom registrations in year4·15·86·8
    January-August
    Japanese imports from the United Kingdom as percentage of total Japanese registrations0·050·040·09
    Full information in respect of commercial vehicles is not available, but by comparison the trade is small.

    Aircraft Noise (Certification)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether the discussion on noise certification of existing aircraft has reached a conclusion; if so what conclusion; and if not when he expects it to be concluded.

    In view of the important international implications of any action in this field, a United Kingdom delegation is in Montreal at the moment participating in a meeting of the International Civil Aviation Organisation Committee on Aircraft Noise, at which the question of the noise certification of existing aircraft will be discussed. We shall not be able to reach any conclusion on this matter until we have had time to consider fully the outcome of these talks.

    Commissioners Of Irish Lights

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade why Dublin is the only authority in Ireland to appoint Commissioners of Irish Lights; and what are the nationality and qualifications of the other commissioners.

    The constitution of the commissioners stems originally from an Act of 1786 and has not been altered in subsequent legislation. There are no specific qualifications prescribed for the co-opted members, but in practice they are broadly representative of shipping and commerce. Information is not readily available regarding the nationality of the commissioners, who serve voluntarily. All are resident in the Republic of Ireland or Northern Ireland and I am sending the hon. Member a list of their names.

    the percentage of British-made motor vehicles sold in Japan for the same years.

    Shirts

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what information he has about the average retail price of imported shirts from both Hong Kong and Portugal during 1974; and whether these prices are lower than the production costs of British shirts.

    Official statistics do not make possible the accurate identification of the retail price of shirts from particular sources. We are advised, however, that a typical retail price for a shirt imported from a low-cost source such as Hong Kong or Portugal would be £2 to £3 and that the production cost of a shirt made in the United Kingdom would be within the same range, depending on the source and the cost of the material used.

    Yarn

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade it he will publish in the Official Report the total annual volume of imports of yarn in 1973 and 1974 respectively.

    For yarns of all fibres, 129,000 and 161,000 metric tons for 1973 and 1974 respectively.

    Wool And Textile Imports

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how much of the total value of wool, synthetic and other textiles imported into Great Britain in 1974 came from Eastern European countries, which do not have to meet conventional commercial criteria.

    As I indicated in my reply to the hon. Member's Question of 27th January, the total value c.i.f. of United Kingdom imports of textiles in January-November 1974 was £697,698,000, of which £13,021,000 was from Eastern bloc and Warsaw Pact countries. Of the latter figure all but £4,000 came from Eastern European countries, the difference being attributable to Mongolia and Cuba.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what has been the value of wool and textiles, including synthetic fibres, imported in the current year; how this compares with average annual figures for the last five years and 10 years, respectively; and if he will express these figures as a percentage of total consumption.

    The value of imports was as follows:

    £ million c.i.f.
    Raw WoolTextiles
    Average of 10 years 1965–1974101337
    Average of 5 years 1970–197497464
    1974115750
    The estimated share of the United Kingdom market taken by imports of textiles in recent years was:

    Per cent.
    196813
    197013
    197116
    197217
    197320
    1974 (1st half)24
    Estimates for years before 1968 and for 1969 are not available.The share of the United Kingdom consumption of raw wool taken by imports in terms of value is not available. In terms of quantity—clean weight equivalent—it was:

    Per cent.
    Average of 10 years 1964–197392
    Average of 5 years 1969–197389
    1974 (1st three quarters)76

    Major Trading Countries

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will publish the figures showing the import/export figures in value of those leading 20 nations which traded with the United Kingdom over the past 12 months.

    The figures for 1974 can be ascertained from Tables II and V of the December 1974 issue of the Overseas Trade Statistics.

    Japanese Imports

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will publish in the Official Report the United Kingdom's importation from Japan of the 20 principal items and by value.

    This information can be readily ascertained from Tables II and III of the monthly Overseas Trade Statistics.

    Export Credit Insurance Premiums

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will review the practice of not disclosing to overseas buyers the amount of insurance premium payable to Export Credits Guarantee Department in view of the resulting uncertainty over the actual contract price being quoted by British exporters.

    No. I do not think it would be in our export interest to do this. ECGD insurance premium forms part of the contract price and I am not aware that this gives rise to any uncertainties.

    Textile Industry (Macclesfield)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if the Under-Secretary of State will visit the Macclesfield constituency to assess the problems that exist there relating to the situation facing the textile industry; and if he will seek to remedy these problems.

    I have been asked to reply.I am very aware of the problems of the textile industry in Macclesfield, including reported rationalisation plans of a silk mill, but I have no plans to visit there in the near future.

    Non-Oil Trade Deficit

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the percentage increase in Great Britain's non-oil trade deficit with the EEC, EFTA, the Commonwealth, the United States of America and the rest of the world, respectively, between 1972 and 1974.

    On an overseas trade statistics basis the percentage changes between 1972 and 1974 in our crude trade deficits with the EEC(8), EFTA and the Commonwealth were +294, +180 and +43 respectively. There was a surplus of £42 million in our non-oil trade with the United States of America in 1972 and a deficit of £477 million in 1974. For the rest of the world there was a surplus in both 1972 and 1974, the percentage increase between the two years being +55.

    Scotland

    Divorce

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate is available to him of the proportion of divorced persons who subsequently remarry.

    The numbers of divorced males and females remarrying in the year 1973—who may, of course, have been divorced in that year or any earlier year—were 3,383 and 3,504 respectively. The number of divorces in 1972 was 5,503. The proportion of divorced persons remarrying in 1973, as percentages of persons divorced in 1972, were, therefore, 61·2 for males and 63·4 for females.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the the number of petitions for divorce filed in Scotland in each of the last 10 years, giving a breakdown of the number of cases which are defended and undefended.

    The information is not available exactly in the form requested. The following figures relate to the number of actions in which final judgment was given.

    YearTotal number of actionsNumber of defended actionsNumber of undefended actions
    19642,510642,446
    19652,770732,697
    19663,6961693,527
    19673,1011832,918
    19684,9533534,600
    19694,4212424,179
    19704,8092594,550
    19715,0412464,795
    19725,7963055,491
    19737,4752647,211

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the number of petitions for divorce filed in Scotland in each of the last 10 years, giving a breakdown by sex of the pursuers and the rate per 1,000 married couples which the figures represent.

    The information is not available exactly in the form requested. The following figures relate to the number of actions in which final judgment was given:

    YearTotal number of actionsNumber in which husband was pursuerNumber in which wife was pursuerNumber of actions per 1,000 married couples
    19642,5101,0111,4992·0
    19652,7701,0311,7392·2
    19663,6961,2692,4273·0
    19673,1011,0472,0542·5
    19684,9531,5183,4354·0
    19694,4211,3233,0983·6
    19704,8091,3273,4823·9
    19715,0411,3883,5634·0
    19725,7961,6144,1824·7
    19737,4752,0155,4605·9

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the number of divorce decrees granted in Scotland in each of the last 10 years, and the rate per 1,000 married couples which the figures represent.

    The figures are given in the table below:Divorces, numbers and rates per 1,000 married couples, Scotland, 1964–1973:

    YearNumber of divorcesRate per 1,000 married couples
    19642,4232·0
    19652,6632·2
    19663,5492·9
    19673,0152·5
    19684,7583·9
    19694,2173·5
    19704,5913·8
    19714,7863·9
    19725,5034·4
    19737,0985·7

    Genetic Engineering

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what investigations are presently being carried out into the possibility of eradicating genetically inherited diseases by genetic engineering.

    The techniques of genetic engineering are still in so early a stage of development that it is not possible to say that any research in the field is directed to the eradication of any particular group of diseases. However, fundamental research is being carried out in Scotland by several groups in Edinburgh and Glasgow; and the subject is, of course, of current interest throughout the world.

    Marital Separation Orders

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the number of separation orders granted in Scotland in each of the last 10 years.

    Figures relating to separation orders are not available for years before 1969. The details from 1969 onwards are given below:

    Year and No. of actions of separation disposed of by final judgment
    1969185
    1970156
    1971168
    1972207
    1973169

    Hunter Health Centre, East Kilbride

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will provide or recommend the provision of a pharmacy within the Hunter Health Centre in East Kilbride or on vacant land adjoining the health centre.

    No. The Lanarkshire Health Board is satisfied with the pharmaceutical services at present available in East Kilbride.

    Rents

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much additional rent has been paid by council tenants in Glasgow and Clydebank, respectively, in the period from 1st October 1974 until the present time; if he will give an estimate of the amount of additional rent they will have paid from 1st October 1974 to the end of the rent freeze in May 1975; and if he will also express these global figures in terms relating to an average tenant.

    No rent increases have been made since 1st October 1974 because of the rents standstill.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the amount of additional rent payable by council tenants in Glasgow and Clydebank, respectively, in the period from 1st October 1974 until the present time and from 1st October 1974 until the end of the rent freeze in May 1975, respectively, attributable to a strict conformity with the timetable of the Housing Finance Act 1972; and if he will express these global figures in terms relating to an average tenant.

    The 1972 Act imposed two increases of £39 per annum from 1st October 1972 and of £26 per annum from 1st October 1973. Together these meant increases of £1·25p per week. On that basis the additional rent payable by tenants would be £21·25p in the period from 1st October 1974 to 27th January 1975 and £40 from 1st October 1974 to 15th May 1975, giving totals of £3,246,300 and £203,000 in the first period and £6,110,700 and £382,200 in the second period for Glasgow and Clydebank respectively.

    Housing

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the application to Scotland of the Government's proposals to assist house purchase and improve the rate of house construction.

    I was involved in the evolution of the measures announced by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment on 27th January which apply to Scotland as to England and Wales.

    School Building Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much primary, secondary and special school building education authorities will be authorised to start in 1975–76.

    The programme amounts to £39·6 million, of which £36·9 million is for primary and secondary schools and £2·7 million for special schools. Allocations for the former have just been notified to authorities.