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Volume 914: debated on Wednesday 7 July 1976

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday 7th July 1976

Prices And Consumer Protection

Barristers (Monopolies Commission's Reports)

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection when she expects to publish the reports of the Monopolies and Mergers Commission on (a) the supply by Her Majesty's counsel alone of their services and (b) the supply by senior counsel alone of their services.

The reports are being published today. The commission's investigations were confined to agreements and practices relating to restrictions on the supply by Her Majesty's Counsel (QCs) alone of their services in England and Wales and by Senior Counsel alone of their services in Scotland. These restrictions are generally known as the "two counsel" rule at the Bar. The differences between English and Scottish law necessitated two separate references. However, the commission found that the effect of the rules of both Bars was broadly similar and, therefore, its recommendation is virtually the same in each report.The commission concluded that restrictions in England and Wales on the supply by QCs alone of their services—which were observed by the whole body of barristers—prevented QCs from competing with each other and with junior counsel by performing certain services on their own. For example, a QC is not allowed to appear in a court of law without a junior: or, with certain exceptions, to draft a document other than in conjunction with a junior; and where papers are delivered simultaneously to both a QC and a junior, the QC cannot advise except in consultation with the junior. The comission therefore concluded that a monopoly situation existed in England and Wales in that banisters' services are all supplied by persons who so conduct their affairs as to restrict competition.Similarly, the commission concluded that there were restrictions in Scotland—accepted by all advocates who were members of the Faculty of Advocates—which prevented Senior Counsel from competing with each other and with junior counsel by performing certain services on their own. For example, a Senior Counsel cannot appear before a civil court without a junior, although he is entitled—but not obliged—to appear alone before a criminal court; also a Senior Counsel is not allowed to draw up or revise plead ings in any court unless junior counsel is instructed to act with him. The commission therefore concluded that a monopoly situation also existed in Scotland.The commission further concluded that the two-counsel rule restrictions in England and Wales and in Scotland had a detrimental effect on the public interest in that on occasions they involved unnecessary expense to litigants and wasted juniors' time. They noted also that they could lead to delays in arranging court appearances, and represented a restriction of choice for clients.The commission recommended that all existing provisions which precluded QCs in England and Wales and Senior Counsel in Scotland from acting without a junior should be terminated. They considered that for the future the decision that a QC or Senior Counsel requires a junior for any particular case should be a matter for discussion between client, solicitor and counsel.However, although it did not think it necessary to have any new rules on the subject the commission none the less thought it desirable that there should be a general understanding in future that a QC or Senior Counsel should be able in any particularly case to request the assistance of a junior at any stage in litigation to enable the QC or Senior Counsel to devote his time to the more difficult aspects of the case. Also it considered that it should be recognised that in the ordinary course of events interlocutory work in England and Wales—that is work on proceedings after a writ has been issued but before the actual court hearing—and pleadings in Scotland should be handled by juniors though this should not prevent QCs or Senior Counsel undertaking this work if desirable, either alone or assisted by a junior.The commission concluded that the abolition of the present two-counsel rules would not significantly affect the training opportunities open to juniors. Nor would the two-tier system be undermined, or the "cab rank" rule—whereby counsel cannot refuse to act for a litigrant no matter how unattractive he, or his case, may be—be likely to operate so as to compel QCs and Senior Counsel against their wishes either to act on their own, if they considered that a case required two counsel, or to take on cases appropriate for juniorsMy right hon. Friend accepts the recommendation of the Monopolies and Mergers Commission that all existing provisions which preclude QCs in England and Wales and Senior Counsel in Scotland from acting without a junior should be terminated. She shares the commission's view that for the future the decision whether a QC or Senior Counsel requires a junior for any particular case should be a matter for discussion between client, solicitor and counsel.My right hon. Friend is, therefore, asking the Director General of Fair Trading to discuss with the relevant professional bodies the termination of the two-counsel rules in England and Wales and in Scotland, and also to discuss with them whether any new understandings or guidance might seem called for on any matters arising from the abolition of the rules.

Industry

British Steel Corporation (Chairman)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the actual claim for expenses made by the Chairman of the British Steel Corporation for the longest and most convenient period of time.

The corporation is authorised to reimburse from its funds travelling, subsistence and reasonable hospitality expenses incurred by the chairman directly on the business of the corporation. The actual sums claimed are a matter for the corporation.

Multinational Companies

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the agreement reached with OECD regarding a code of conduct designed to govern the conduct of multinational companies.

As my right hon. Friend told my hon. Friend the Member for Thornaby (Mr. Wrigglesworth) on 18th June—[Vol. 913, c. 308–9]—in the view of Her Majesty's Government, the OECD declaration and decisions constitute a major step forward. My right hon. Friend has made a full statement of Her Majesty's Government's attitude in the foreward to the White Paper 'International Investment: Guidelines for Multinational Enterprises" (Cmnd 6525) published on 24th June 1976.

Aerospace Industry Policy (European Community)

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the progress of negotiations with the EEC on the proposals for an EEC aerospace industry policy.

The EEC Commission's proposals for a European aerospace and aviation policy have yet to be discussed by the Council of Ministers, but the Council has referred the Commission's report to the European Assembly for its opinion on its recommendations. In the meantime officials in Brussels have met to discuss the part of the report dealing with possible aircraft developments in order to define the various options.

Ministerial Appointments

asked the Secretary of State for Industry why he is unable to give the expenses actually drawn or allowed to the six peers of the realm who hold Government appointments as detailed in his reply to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West on Thursday 17th June.

Boards are authorised to reimburse from their funds travelling, subsistence and reasonable hospitality expenses incurred by members directly on the business of the boards. The amounts actually drawn by, or allowed to, individuals are a matter for the boards.

Kearney, Trecker And Marwin Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will place in the Library copies of all recent circulars to shareholders of Kearney, Trecker and Marwin Limited following the proposed capital reconstruction and further investment of public funds.

I am arranging for a copy of the proposed scheme of arrangement and of the chairman's letter to shareholders, together with the report and accounts for 1975, to be placed in the Library.

National Enterprise Board

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he is satisfied with the way the NEB is discharging its employment responsibilities under the draft guidelines.

The NEB has made a vigorous start and is fully aware of its responsibilities; its subsidiaries already employ more than a quarter of a million people in the United Kingdom—not, incidentally, three-quarters of a million as I mentioned inadvertently in the House on 28th June.

Regional Aid

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what are the present levels of delegated authority for his Department's regional offices in assisted areas for the purpose of selective financial assistance under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972; and if he will make a statement.

At present my Department's three principal offices in the assisted areas, the Northern, North-West and Yorkshire and Humberside offices, may provide loans of up to £1 million, in cases falling within the guidelines for assistance. As from today these offices will be able to decide cases up to £2 million. Corresponding increases in delegated financial limits on other forms of assistance such as service industry removal grants are also being made. The new arrangements mean that the main English assisted area offices will now be able to handle in the regions nearly all straightforward cases which will assist the creation of employment.

Home Department

Prisoner Archer (Correspondence)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will cause an investigation to be made ascertaining how and why a letter from Prisoner Archer of Parkhurst Prison sent to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West and dated 16th June was not sent until 22nd June; why this prisoner has been barred from writing and sending mail; under what Act or Statutory Rule or Regulation this ban has been imposed; and whether this prisoner can send this communication through his Member of Parliament.

Prison records show that the letter to the hon. Member was sent on 16th June. The prisoner has not been barred from sending letters, but some of his correspondence has been stopped under Rule 33(2) of the Prison Rules, either because it contains complaints about prison treatment which should first be investigated within the prison, or because it is not directed to known friends, relatives or legal advisers. A prisoner may not request a third party to send on his behalf a communication which he has not been allowed to send himself.

Animals (Experiments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many animals have been exported abroad to laboratories for experimental purposes in 1975 and 1976; and to which countries they have been sent.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply that I gave to a Question by the hon. Member for Gillingham (Mr. Burden) on 10th May.—[Vol. 911, c. 78.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he is considering for regulating the activities of suppliers of animals for experimental purposes.

None. Such animals in Great Britain have the protection afforded by the Breeding of Dogs Act 1973, the Protection of Animals Act 1911 or the Protection of Animals (Scotland) Act 1912.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many cats were used in experiments in 1975; and where they were obtained from.

The provisional figure is that 10,526 experiments were performed on cats under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876. Information about the source of the animals is not available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish details of the type and number of dogs, other than beagles, used for experimental purposes in 1975.

The provisional figure is that 16,195 experiments were performed on dogs, including beagles, under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876. No separate information is available about the number of beagles, or of other breeds, included in this figure.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many experiments on animals are carried out now compared with the alternatives which were available in 1975.

It is not possible to establish whether alternatives might have been available for any of the experiments in question.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the cost factor of breeding animals for vivisection compared with the use of machines or alternative methods of 1975.

Cruelty To Animals Act 1876

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to amend the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876; and if he will make a statement.

Deaths (Females)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report details of all female deaths between the ages of 14 and 46 years which were the subject of a coroner's inquiry in Newcastle-upon-Tyne between 1967 and 1975.

The total number of female deaths reported to the coroner for Newcastle upon Tyne in the period in question was 2,914. Separate figures for these by age groups are not available. The number of reported deaths of females aged 14 and over which resulted in inquests being held was 921 and the verdicts returned were as follows:

Murder1
Suicide125
Chronic alcoholism4
Deaths from industrial diseases8
Deaths by accident or misadventure715
Deaths from natural causes14
Open verdicts54

Note

Before 1st April 1974 the district of the coroner for the city of Newcastle upon Tyne was co-terminous with the former county borough of Newcastle upon Tyne. Since 1st April 1974 the coroner's district has been enlarged to cover the whole of the new district of Newcastle upon Tyne.

Criminal Cases (Guilty Pleas)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation to prohibit counsel and judges from arriving at agreed verdicts and sentences as a result of prearranged guilty pleas.

Sexual Offences

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the general principle of equal treatment under the criminal law of homosexual and heterosexual offences is covered by the terms of reference of the Criminal Law Revision Committee announced on 14th July 1975; and whether submissions are invited on this general principle.

The terms of reference of the Criminal Law Revision Committee are to review, in consultation with the Policy Advisory Committee on Sexual Offences, the law relating to and penalties for sexual offences. This review embraces all aspects of the law on sexual offences and submissions on any issues falling within its scope—including those concerning the general principle of equal treatment—will be considered.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the Criminal Law Revision Committee is expected to report on the law relating to sexual offences.

Race Relations

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will seek powers to indemnify employers who have been found to be contravening the Race Relations Act in cases where their employees make it impossible for them to do otherwise.

Immigration

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether he has given any instructions to immigration officers to distinguish on grounds of colour in the case of those arriving at British ports and airports with Rhodesian passports;(2) whether he will place in the Library a copy of the instructions which have been given to immigration officers on the methods to be employed in handling those arriving at British airports and seaports with Rhodesian passports.

The admission of holders of documents issued by the illegal régime in Rhodesia is governed by the published Immigration Rules (HC 79) which make it clear that immigration officers are to carry out their duties without regard to the race, colour or religion of people seeking to enter the United Kingdom. The rules are supplemented by instructions of an administrative nature, and I think it right to maintain the practice followed by successive Governments that such instructions are not published. I can assure the hon. Member that we have issued no instruction which derogates from the principle contained in the rules.

Entry Permit Refusals

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many occasions visitors to the United Kingdom have been refused entry on political or security grounds during the course of 1974, 1975 and 1976, respectively.

Nine people in 1974, eight in 1975 and two in the first quarter of this year were refused entry at a port as a consequence of directions issued by me or my predecessor that their exclusion would be conducive to the public good.

Crime Prevention (Public Co-Operation)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department to what extent the co-operation of the public has been invited in the fight against crime; and with what effect.

The police make considerable use of the media and other forms of publicity to invite the public to help in the prevention and detection of crime, and they appreciate the generally helpful response by the public.

Stockport (Urban Aid Programme)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many projects were approved in Stockport under each phase of the urban aid programme; and what was the nature of these projects.

Twenty-two projects, intended to help meet special social need in Stockport, have been approved under the urban programme. They cover a wide range, including a nursery school, a day nursery, housing aid and advisory services, a family advice centre, grants to playgroups and an adventure playground, an activity centre for intermediate treatment, a group home for the mentally ill and a women's aid centre.The numbers of projects approved under successive circulars have been as follows:

Circular NumberNumber of Projects Approved
1
21
34
43
5†
6*
73
8*
95
10*1
112
12
13*1
142
15*
*These circulars invited applications for non-recurrent holiday projects only.
† This circular invited applications from intermediate and development areas only.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how much money allocated to projects in Stockport during the various phases of the urban aid programme was taken up by voluntary bodies; and how much was taken up by the statutory bodies.

The information is as follows:

VALUE OF PROJECTS IN STOCKPORT APPROVED UNDER THE URBAN PROGRAMME
(1) To be run by voluntary organisations:
(£)
Expenditure Approved
Circular NumberCapitalRecurrent Non-capitalNon-Recurrent Non-capital
1
2
32,400
43,750
5
6*
71,500
8*
9
10*
11
12
13*
14
15*
(2) To be run by the local authority:

(£)
Expenditure Approved
Circular NumberCapitalRecurrent Non-CapitalNon-Recurrent Non-Capital
1
221,744
370,9002,000
41,500
5‡
6*
74,650
8*
925,0005,7002,750
10*750
117,700
12
13*530
1417,050600
15*
* These circulars invited applications for non recurrent holiday projects only.
‡ This circular invited applications from intermediate and development areas only.

Imprisoned Mothers

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many mothers of children under five years are at present in prison; how many children are involved; and how many of these children are with the mother.

I regret that the information requested in the first two parts of the Question is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. On 2nd July 1976 there were 25 children under the age of five with their mothers in mother and baby units at these prisons.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many mothers of children under five years are at present remanded in custody.

On 2nd July 1976 there were 48, of whom 26 were unconvicted and 22 were convicted but unsentenced.

Juvenile Liaison Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has now completed his consideration of the report of Her Majestry's Inspector of Constabulary on the operation of the juvenile liaison scheme in Lancashire; and if be will make a statement.

Yes. The report recognised the considerable contribution made by the juvenile liaison scheme in Lancashire to the prevention of juvenile crime. It drew attention, however, to faults in the procedure for the recording of crime committed by juveniles in Lancashire and for deciding whether a particular child should or not should not made subject to supervision by the police under the juvenile liaison scheme. Recommendations for the necessary changes in procedure have been made to the Chief Constable. Complaints against the conduct of particular officers are the subject of investigation under Section 49 of the Police Act 1964.As regards the position elsewhere, I have arranged for Her Majesty's inspectors of Constabulary to examine the practice in other police forces in England and Wales which operate juvenile liaison schemes involving the supervision of children who have committed offences.

Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many immigrants entered the United Kingdom in 1975; and how many were white and how many coloured.

I refer my right hon. Friend to the tables published in Cmnd. 6504—Control of Immigration: Statistics, 1975. The tables distinguish entrants by country but not by colour.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many immigrants were deported in 1975; and how many of them were white and how many coloured.

Four hundred and sixty-five. Statistics are not recorded by reference to colour.

Animals (Welfare)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the 12 committees on animal welfare which advise the Home Office and other Government Departments.

The following bodies advise Departments on a wide variety of matters affecting animals:

  • Advisory Committee on the Administration of the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876.
  • Advisory Committees for England, for Scotland and for Wales of the Nature Conservancy Council.
  • Advisory Committee on the Protection of Birds for England and Wales.
  • Advisory Committee on the Protection of Birds for Scotland.
  • Consultative Panel on Badgers and Tuberculosis.
  • Farm Animal Welfare Committee.
  • Fisheries Committee.
  • Natural Environment Research Council.
  • Nature Conservancy Council.
  • Red Deer Commission.
  • Scientific Authority for Animals.

Trade

Import Controls

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many representations he has received from Members of Parliament on import controls, since 1st January 1976.

I have received about 60 leters from Members of Parliament concerning import controls. Most of these were requests for my comments on letters from constituents.

Shipping (Maximum Draughts)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the maximum draught of United Kingdom registered vessels expected to use the Red Sea and Suez Canal in the late 1970s.

Maximum draughts in the late 1970s are expected to be of the order of 90 ft in the Red Sea and 53 ft in the Suez Canal.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many visits to ports in the Persian Gulf were made by United Kingdom registered ships in 1974; and what was the maximum draught involved.

The information is not available, but the maximum permitted draught at the Kuwait terminal is 95 feet.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the maximum draught of United Kingdom registered vessels expected to approach the ports of Milford Haven, Bristol, Humber, Firth of Forth and Sullom Voe in 1977; and what was the expected draught of vessels using these ports at the time the most recent surveys of their approaches were carried out.

According to local inquiries, maximum draughts in 1977 are expected to be of the following order—corresponding figures at the time of the most recent surveys are given in brackets:

Milford Haven68 ft. (36)
Bristol43 ft. (35)
Humber52 ft. (33)
Firth of Forth65 ft. (30)
Sullom Voe23 ft. (23)
Deep draught vessels are expected to use Sullom Voe in 1978. It is hoped that surveys of the immediate approaches to Milford Haven and the Firth of Forth to full modern standards will be completed by next year.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the approximate draught of the deepest laden vessels at present likely to transit the United Kingdom's Continental Shelf.

Comprehensive information is not available but, based on the Bantry Bay terminal, a draught of approximately 92 feet is the maximum at present considered likely.

Wrecks (United Kingdom Waters)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade, in the light of the increasing numbers of gas and chemical carrying vessels which are entering service, and in view of the dangers of such vessels being grounded near United Kingdom waters, if he is satisfied that adequate knowledge of the position and depths over all wrecks and other likely hazards such as the pinnacles of rock found by HMS "Fox" off Holyhead in 1975 is available.

In view of the number of wrecks and other marine hazards around our coasts, I cannot be wholly satisfied, but the programme of surveys carried out by the Hydrographer of the Navy constantly enhances our knowledge of these matters.

Navigation Charts

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what action is being taken to ensure that the charts required to be carried under the Merchant Shipping (Carriage of Nautical Publications) Act 1975 are adequate for the use of United Kingdom registered vessels of significantly deeper draught than was envisaged at the time the surveys were carried out.

The purpose of the 1975 rules is to ensure that United Kingdom registered ships, of whatever draught, carry the best available charts appropriate to each part of their intended voyages world-wide. Such charts may be published by the Hydrographer of the Navy or by an authority duly exercising similar functions in any other country.The Hydrographer of the Navy has a continuing task to perform in surveying United Kingdom waters in response to new developments in shipping characteristics; and in this regard there is close collaboration between the Ministry of Defence and my Department.

Textiles (Far Eastern Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the comparison between the rate at which licences have been issued, and goods imported into the United Kingdom so far in 1976, and the relevant annual quota for each category of textile products subject to import quotas under the provisions of bilateral agreements with Hong Kong, India, Pakistan, Taiwan, South Korea, Malaysia, Macao, Singapore and Japan.

The cost of answering this Question in the detail required would be disproportionate. Details of quota levels are published in Trade & Industry and also in the Official Journal. Figures of actual imports, although not necessarily broken down in the same detail as the quotas, are published in the Overseas Trade Statistics. We are now preparing a full statement of licences issued against all quotas established by Agreements made under the GATT Multi-Fibre Arrangement and I shall let my hon. Friend have copies as soon as it is available and place copies in the Library.

Civil Service

Royal Opera House (President D'estaing's Visit)

46.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what were the estimated costs to the Exchequer for the antiques, flowers and other alterations made to the 15 boxes for the visit to the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden, by President Giscard d'Estaing; who used these boxes; and who was invited at the expense of the Exchequer to the performance of Verdi's "Un Ballo in Maschera".

Certain antique furniture was lent to the Royal Opera House for this occasion at a total cost of approximately £100 for insurance. The estimate for floral decorations throughout the theatre is £2,397 and the cost of removing and replacing the grand tier boxes is estimated at £1,600. On such occasions there is no detailed ministerial responsibility for the guest lists.

Ministerial Appointments

asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether, when publishing the new or revised copy of "A Directory of Paid Public Appointments made by Ministers" (ISBN 011 630332 8), he will give a full and complete list of the actual salaries, fees and expenses claimed and paid during the previous 12 months by the members of these various Government boards, together with details of meetings actually held and the attendances thereat of the appointed members.

No. To collect, collate and publish information about the actual fees and expenses claimed and details of attendance of those holding appointments would be very costly and irrelevant to the main purpose of the directory, which was to publish in a convenient form information about paid posts, for the assistance of possible applicants.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will give the total number of peers of the realm who hold Government appointments, the number of jobs held by these peers, and the total cost of all salaries, subsistence and travel expenses of the peers for any stated period of time.

As I have already indicated to my hon. Friend—[Vol. 912, c. 103.]—my Department does not maintain this information centrally.

Peers

asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will make the actual amounts drawn by peers in receipt of allowances in respect of attendance at the House of Lords, who also receive expenses in connection with part-time Government employment, available to Members of Parliament by publishing a comprehensive and detailed list in the Official Report.

The Members of another place are entitled to recover the expenses they actually incur in attending their House, up to a maximum of £13·50 per sitting day. The administration of that scheme is entirely a matter for another place.

Defence

Hydrography

asked the Secretary of State for Defence with what overseas countries discussions have taken place during the last five years in connection with the need for improved hydrographic surveying.

Apart from discussions relating to co-ordinated surveying activities with countries having established hydrograph offices, such as France, Malaysia, the Netherlands, Norway, Singapore and the United States of America, there has been correspondence dealing with the needs for hydrographic surveys under the liaison arrangements between the Hydrographer of the Navy and the local marine authorities in the following countries:

  • Anguilla
  • Antigua
  • Bahamas
  • Bahrain
  • Belize
  • British Antartic Territories
  • Cayman Islands
  • Dominica
  • Egypt
  • Falkland Islands
  • Fiji
  • Gilbert and Ellice Islands
  • Grenada
  • Guyana
  • Iran
  • Jamaica
  • Kenya
  • Maldives
  • Mauritius
  • Montserrat
  • New Hebrides
  • St. Helena and Ascension
  • St. Kitts—Nevis
  • St. Vincent
  • Seychelles
  • Sudan
  • Tanzania
  • Trinidad and Tobago
  • Virgin Islands
  • United Arab Emirates.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when the last surveys were carried out in the approaches to Milford Haven, the Bristol Channel, the Firth of Forth and Sullom Voe.

Full surveys were carried out in the approaches to Milford Haven, the Bristol Channel and the Firth of Forth during the nineteenth century, and have been progressively updated since then; the dates of the most recent surveys are 1969, 1968 and 1969, respectively. It is hoped that comprehensive surveys to full modern standards will be completed next year in the approaches to Milford Haven and the First of Forth. The approaches to Sullom Voe have never been surveyed though Yell Sound itself was surveyed in 1975.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the date of the most recent surveys of the Red Sea and Gulf of Suez; who carried out these surveys; and how they were paid for.

The last complete surveys known to have been carried out in the Gulf of Suez and Red Sea area were done by the Royal Navy in the 1870s at Royal Naval expense.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many of Her Majesty's survey ships will be deployed in each of the next five years to meet the surveying requirements of British and international shipping in the southern side of the Persian Gulf.

There are no plans to deploy any surveying ships to the southern side of the Persian Gulf in the next five years.

Continental Shelf

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proportion of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf has been covered by surveys using modern echo sounders at acceptable scales and including modern sonar sweeps to establish the least depth over all wrecks and obstructions.

About 26 per cent. of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf has so far been surveyed with echo sounder and sonar sweeps. About 5 per cent. has been covered by modern sonar sweeps.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many wrecks are known or thought to exist on the United Kingdom Continental Shelf whose position and least depth are at present not accurately known.

About 14,000 wrecks are known to exist on the United Kingdom Continental Shelf. About 3,000 have been located accurately, but the least depth is known accurately over fewer than 1,500.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proportion of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf has either never been surveyed or is only covered by hand-lead and line surveys; and how many ship-years of work would be required to cover this area to modern standards.

About 74 per cent. of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf has not been surveyed by echo sounder or sonar. It is estimated that between 250 and 300 ship-years of work would be required to bring coverage of these areas up to the highest modern standards.

Scotland

Birds Of Prey

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has received a report from the Institute of Terrestrial Ecology claiming that a large number of relatively rare birds of prey are being illegally shot or poisoned; and if he will make a statement.

No report has been received from the Institute of Terrestrial Ecology but I am aware that a paper has been published on the dispersal and causes of death of buzzards. The Protection of Birds Acts 1954–1967 provide for the protection of all wild birds, their nests and eggs, subject to certain limited exceptions, namely game birds—outwith the close season—and harmful birds—included in Schedule 2 to the 1954 Act. Buzzards are a protected species and the police will investigate any case of alleged illegal shooting or poisoning of protected birds reported to them.

Consultants

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many obstetric consultants per 1,000 births there were in Glasgow and Lanarkshire, respectively, at the most recent convenient date.

At 30th September 1975, the latest date for which precise staffing figures are available, there were 2·057 and 0·8197 consultant obstetricians—whole-time equivalents—per 1,000 births in Glasgow and Lanarkshire respectively.

Hospital Patients (Glasgow And Lanarkshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many patients are attending hospital in Glasgow and Lanarkshire, respectively, at the present time.

The latest available figures for in-patient discharges and out-patient attendances relate to the six months up to 30th September 1975. During that period 98,445 patients were discharged from Greater Glasgow Health Board hospitals and there were 715,414 out-patient attendances. The corresponding figures for the Lanarkshire Health Board were 27,183 discharges and 103,958 out-patient attendances.

List D Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects he will be able to publish a consultative paper on the future management of List D schools.

My right hon. Friend hopes to be able to make an announcement about his proposals in the near future.

Trees (Seedlings)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what stocks of forest tree seedlings now exist in Scotland in both Forestry Commission and privately-owned nurseries; and whether he is satisfied that adequate stocks of potential transplants are available to increase the present rate of tree planting.

As stocktaking in Forestry Commission nurseries does not take place until later in the year, the figures are not yet known but production has been planned to meet the Commission's planting programme. No information is available on stocks held by privately-owned tree nurseries in Scotland.

Regional Employment Premium

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the total amount of regional employment premium to be distributed in Scotland in 1976.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Middle East

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs in view of the Syrian intervention in Lebanon, and the risks of an extended conflict between Syria and Iraq, what peace initiative he proposes to take in the Middle East.

I have nothing to add to the answer I gave my hon. Friend on 16th June.—[Vol. 913, c. 524–6.]

Diego Garcia

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will pay an official visit to Diego Garcia.

Argentina

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will consider closing the British Embassy in Buenos Aires.

Italy

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what clarification he has caused to be issued by Her Majesty's Ambassador in Rome following statements made by Mr. Berlinguer that Her Majesty's Government viewed favourably the possible inclusion of the Communist Party within the Government of Italy.

None. As my right hon. Friend told the House on 16th June, it is for the Italian people to choose their own Government. It would not be appropriate for the British Government to engage in public discussion of what the choice should be.

Rhodesia

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement about recent events in Rhodesia.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North-West (Mr. Brocklebank-Fowler).

Embassies And Consulates (Government Instructions)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps he takes to ensure that instructions relayed to United Kingdom embassies and consulates by Her Majesty's Government are carried out.

I am confident that instructions from Her Majesty's Government are carried out by our embassies and consular posts. Posts report back as necessary and in specific cases are required to do so.

Helsinki Agreement

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he is satisfied with progress following the signing of the Helsinki Agreement.

I would refer the hon. Member to my answer on this point on 16th June.—[Vol. 913, c. 529–31.] We shall not be satisfied until all the provisions of the Final Act are being put into effect by all its signatories. Some progress is being made in bringing existing practices into line with these provisions; but a full assessment must wait until the 1977 review meeting.

Cyprus

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what action he has taken to implement the recommendations of the Select Committee on Cyprus.

I told the House on 19th May of the Government's regret that the Select Committee had not made a more constructive contribution to solving the Cyprus problem. The Government's considered response to the conclusions and recommendations of the Report will be placed before Parliament as soon as possible.

Pretoria

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he has any plans to pay an official visit to Pretoria.

South America

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he has any intention in the near future to pay official visits to any of the States of South America.

Northern Ireland (Internees)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he expects to receive the report by the European Commission on Human Rights about allegations of torture used in the interrogation of internees in Northern Ireland.

The Commission's report was forwarded in confidence to Her Majesty's Government, and to all other member Governments of the Council of Europe, on 9th February.

Dr Kissinger

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he has any plans to meet United States Secretary of State Dr. Kissinger in the near future.

My right hon. Friend will be the guest of Dr. Kissinger at lunch in Washington later today and will be seeing the United States Secretary of State on various other occasions during the Queen's visit to the United States.

Ussr (Western Newspapers)

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list the names of newspapers from Western European countries and the United States of America now distributed in the Soviet Union, following the provision of Basket III in the Helsinki Agreement; how many copies of each are distributed on average each day; and if he will make a statement about how freely available these are to Soviet citizens.

I can speak only for the British newspapers which are distributed in the Soviet Union. According to our information these are The Times, the Financial Times and the Morning Star. We have detailed sales figures for The Times and the Financial Times only; the former has 191 copies distributed daily, of which 151 are sent to personal subscribers, and the latter sells a total of 150 copies, of which about 100 are sent direct to subscribers. Those copies of both newspapers which are available for sale to the public can, we believe, be bought at airports and Intourist hotels only.

Ocean Island (Phosphate Industry)

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a further statement on the future of the British Phosphates Commission; and if he will give an undertaking not to sanction any agreement governing the future management of the mining of phosphates on Ocean Island which is not acceptable to the Banabans who own the land on Ocean Island.

The future of the British Phosphate Commissioners would be a matter for discussion between the three partner Governments of Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom. While I cannot give an undertaking in the very wide terms suggested by my hon. Friend, I can assure him that we would not agree to any new arrangements which would prejudice the existing rights of the landowners on Ocean Island.

Gilbert Islands

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what size of House of Representatives he intends to propose to representatives of the Gilbert Islands during the forthcoming talks on internal self-government.

The proposals of the Government of the Gilberts, from which I do not dissent, involve no changes in the composition of the House of Assembly on internal self-government, except for the disappearance of the Deputy Governor and the Financial Secretary. The House would then comprise 21 elected members and the Attorney-General.

Hong Kong

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many police officers from Great Britain have been recruited to the Independent Commission Against Corruption in Hong Kong; and what is the strength of the operations arm of the commission.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement regarding the development and effect of the Independent Commission Against Corruption in Hong Kong over the last two years.

The Operations Department of the Commission was first to be established; and from February 2,820 cases and obtained 275 convictions. 1974 to March 1976 has investigated Other departments have now been set up to devise methods to prevent corruption and to change public attitudes to the problem. The total establishment is over 900.

West Africa (United Kingdom Citizens)

asked the Secretary of State for the Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many citizens of the United Kingdom, apart from military personnel, if any, are known to be currently working or otherwise resident in Dahomey, Nigeria, Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, The Ivory Coast, Ghana and Togo, respectively.

From information provided by diplomatic posts, the latest estimate of citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies resident in the countries concerned is given below. Precise figures are not available since United Kingdom nationals are not bound to register with our overseas posts.

Dahomey (Benin)35
Nigeria10,744
Guinea40
Liberia472
Sierra Leone1,832
The Ivory Coast251
Ghana2,800
Togo79

Falkland Islands

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he has yet completed his consideration of Lord Shackleton's report on the Falkland Islands; and if he will make a statement.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Fife, East (Sir J. Gilmour).

European Community

Direct Elections

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress he has made with his European colleagues towards producing an agreed recommendation for direct elections to the European Parliament.

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement on his policy towards direct elections to the European Assembly.

Community negotiations have reached an advanced stage and there is a general wish to settle the major outstanding issues at the European Council on 12th and 13th July. Her Majesty's Government will be taking a full part at this meeting, influenced by the views of this House which emerge from the debate next Friday.

Fishing Limits

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make a statement concerning his discussions with fellow EEC Ministers, regarding international fishing limits, at Luxembourg on Tuesday 29th June.

At the Council of Ministers meeting my right hon. Friend again stressed the importance the United Kingdom attaches to improving the common fisheries policy and emphasised the need for early action on a Community declaration of intent to extend fisheries jurisdiction to 200 miles.

House Of Commons

Photocopying Machines

asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will make a statement about the use of the photocopying machines supplied for Members in the House and its outbuildings.

The Services Committee has looked into this matter recently and in view of the change in the membership of the House since the Services Committee reported on this matter in 1969 I give below guidance on the use of the machines which the Committee wishes drawn to the attention of all Members, and by them to their secretaries and research assistants.

The use of photocopying machines

  • 1. They are intended for use by Members in connection with their parliamentary duties, and not for work in connection with their party political or non-parliamentary work outside Parliament.
  • 2. They may be used for correspondence with individual constituents directly related to matters being raised in Parliament on their behalf, but they may not be used for circulars of any kind or for letters of a general nature addressed to groups of people or to areas within a constituency.
  • 3. Twelve copies of a single paper are allowed free but payment at the rate of 2p must be made for each copy in excess of this number.
  • 4. The machines are not for continuous use by an individual, such as photocopying very lengthy documents, since this results in inconvenience to other Members and overheating of the machines.
  • 5. Only Members may use the machines, or their secretaries or research assistants acting on their behalf with their specific authorisation. The latter must always give way to Members wishing to use the machine in person. On rare occasions staff of the House may need to use the machines in case of breakdown within their own Department.
  • Information as to the location and hours of use of the machines can be obtained from the Office of the Serjeant at Arms.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Skimmed Milk Powder

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many centres for denaturing skimmed milk powder are in operation in the United Kingdom.

    Eighty-two plants have been approved for denaturing intervention stocks of skimmed milk powder, of which 43 are at present undertaking denaturing.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much money has been paid for skimmed milk powder under the skimmed milk powder scheme.

    Poultry Meat (Hygiene Regulations)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish in the Official Report the letter which he has sent to the Association of Environmental Health Officers following his meeting with its representatives on 13th May concerning the poultry meat hygiene regulations.

    My right hon. Friend did not write to the association after its representatives had met officials of my Department on 13th May. He did, however, write to my hon. Friend the Member for South Shields (Mr. Blenkinsop) after a meeting on 25th May with him and other vice-presidents of the association. With the agreement of the hon. Member for South Shields I set out the text of my right hon. Friend's letter, which is as follows:

    Arthur Blenkinsop, Esq, MP,
    House of Commons,
    London SW1A 0AA.
    9th June 1976
    Thank you for your letter of 26th May following the meeting we had on 25th May about the rôle of the Environmental Health Officer under the Regulations we are proposing to make to implement the EEC poultry meat directives. I too am sorry that so few of your fellow Vice-Presidents of the Environmental Health Officers' Association were able to join us for the meeting.
    I can confirm a number of points made at the meeting which you found reassuring.
    First, in our proposed poultry meat Regulations we shall make explicit provision to give effect to the agreement we won in Brussels that, for purposes of home market trade, where poultry meat is cut up or stored in premises which are not part of a slaughterhouse veterinary supervision will not be obligatory and that the task may be assigned to "a suitably qualified officer of a local authority"; the latter term will be defined to mean a person holding one of the qualifications accepted as valid for the Environmental Health Officer.
    Second, in a guidance circular to local authorities we will make it clear that an official veterinary surgeon employed by them for the purposes of the Regulations will normally be a member of the Environmental Health Department of the local authority and will utilise the support services of that Department. You will, of course, appreciate that this must be advice and not a direction to local authorities.
    You also expressed concern about the effect of the poultry meat decisions in the wider context of food hygiene. So far as red meat slaughterhouses are concerned, we are already committed to veterinary responsibility in the export context. For the home market, we have a Swann Committee recommendation that there should be veterinary responsibility. We have had a lot of representation on this and many other recommendations of the Committee. We have not yet reached decisions and I cannot commit myself one way or the other.
    Outside the slaughterhouse, I can be a good deal more definite. Where, in the field of meat based products, veterinary responsibility is required for export puropses, we shall have to go on providing it but for home market purposes we certainly do not envisage an extension of veterinary requirements and, as I am sure you know, David Owen gave a categorical answer to a written question on this subject on 24th May. In short, the members of the Association can be assured that the poultry meat Regulations are not, as some of them fear, the visible part of a large wedge designed to prise general food hygiene from their responsibility or to bring about the setting up of a local authority veterinary organisation independent of local authority Environmental Health Departments.
    Frederick Peart.

    Vegetable Proteins

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much money has been paid to the United Kingdom authorities as security on vegetable proteins.

    Up to 30th June 1976 securities to the value of £6·4 million had been lodged with the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce.

    Departmental Bodies (Salaries And Fees)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish in the Official Report a detailed list giving the names of the chairmen, deputy chairmen and members of the agricultural lands tribunals of England and Wales and their eight regions, the amount of salary and fees of entitlement and actually claimed and the cost of these for the most recent stated year.

    The information in respect of chairmen and deputy chairmen is as follows:EASTERN

    • Chairman: Robert Ives.
    • Deputy Chairmen: F. P. Keysell, MC, 0. D. G. Barr.

    EAST MIDLANDS

    • Chairman: J. P. Gorman.
    • Deputy Chairmen: M. J. Turner, QC, P. S. Scorer.

    NORTHERN

    • Chairman: Dr. L. C. L. Blair.
    • Deputy Chairmen: L. K. Brownson, B. E. Capstick, QC.

    SOUTH EASTERN

    • Chairman: J. G. St. G. Syms, QC.
    • Deputy Chairmen: P. R. Faulks, MC. J. C. C. Blofield.

    SOUTH WESTERN

    • Chairman: Sir Patrick Branigan.
    • Deputy Chairmen: T. G. Field-Fisher, TD, QC, A. J. Harrington.

    WEST MIDLAND

    • Chairman: K. S. W. Mellor, QC.
    • Deputy Chairmen: C. G. Whyte, TD, J. R. S. Smyth.

    YORKSHIRE AND LANCASHIRE

    • Chairman: J. M. Dobson.
    • Deputy Chairmen: P. H. C. Walker, F. Shephenson.

    WELSH

    • Chairman: S. J. Harvard Evans, OBE.
    • Deputy Chairmen: J. E. G. Roberts, MBE, R. O. Jones.
    • Chairmen and deputy chairmen do not receive a salary but are paid the following fees:

    £

    Daily sitting fee40
    Plus additional fee if hearing lasts more than eight hours12
    Stand-by fee when case cancelled at short notice30
    Case fee [Chairmen only]5·25

    The total cost of fees paid to the chairmen and deputy chairmen during the financial year 1975–76 was £3,668·50.

    Members of the tribunals are selected by the chairman for each hearing from panels drawn up by my noble Friend the Lord Chancellor. There are some 450 names in all but none of them receives a fee or salary they are unpaid. A list of unpaid members is being prepared and I shall write to my hon. Friend when it is ready.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give details of the chairman and members of the Agricultural Training Board and their salaries, fees and expenses as paid during the past 12 months.

    The membership of the Agricultural Training Board at 31st March 1976 was as follows:Chairman

    • H. G. Huckle, OBE

    Employer members

    • J. R. Barrowman, BSc(Agric), NDA, NDD, MIAgrE (Vice-chairman), Farmer
    • M. R. Burnett, Farmer, Junior Vice-president, NFU of Scotland
    • J. Hidderley, JP, Farmer
    • R. J. Lennox, JP, Farmer
    • H. C. Mason, MSc, NDA, MIAgrE, Director, Technical and Manpower Division, NFU of England and Wales
    • C. R. Middleton, DipHort(Nottingham), Grower
    • D. G. L. Monnington, Farmer
    • M. Rees, JP, FRAgS, Farmer
    • P. Watson Jones, BA Agric(Cantab), Farmer

    Employee members

    • S. L. Aldous, MBE, Agricultural Officer, Transport and General Workers' Union
    • A. E. Calver, MBE, JP (Vice-Chairman), National Union of Agricultural and Allied Workers
    • W. E. C. Chamberlain, National Union of Agricultural and Allied Workers
    • H. P. F. Crawford, Secretary, Scottish Agricultural and Forestry Section, Transport and General Workers' Union
    • T. J. Healy, National Secretary, Food, Drink and Tobacco Group. Transport and General Workers' Union
    • J. J. Lumsden, Administrative and Education Officer, National Union of Agricultural and Allied Workers
    • C. E. G. Morris, National Union of Agricultural and Allied Workers
    • S. K. Neale, National Union of Agricultural and Allied Workers
    • J. J. Waterman, National Union of Agricultural and Allied Workers

    Education members

    • L. Coutts, BSc(Agric), ARAgS, Principal, Oatridge Agricultural College
    • A. G. Harris, NDA, MIAgrE, Principal, Merrist Wood Agricultural College
    • J. A. D. Michie, MA MEd, Director of Education, Aberdeenshire
    • J. Pearce, PhD, NDA, NDD, FRAgS, Senior Lecturer, Department of Agriculture, Reading University
    • J. Pollard, MS, BSc, FRAgS, Principal, Berkshire College of Agriculture
    • D. Simpson, BSc, Senior Lecturer in Agriculture, Cumbria College of Agriculture and Forestry
    • D. G. M. Thomas, BSc, MIBiol, Principal, College of Further Education, Felinfach
    • M. H. Trollope, MA, Director of Education, County of Northumberland

    The chairman's salary is related to two days' service per week and his remuneration for the year ended 31st March 1976 was £2,640. No salaries or fees are payable to members of the board but persons co-opted to its specialist subcommittees can claim loss of earnings of up to £8 per day. Such payments, together with the subsistence allowances and travelling expenses of the chairman, members and co-opted persons, totalled £16,514 in the year ended 31st March 1976.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give details of the chairman and members of the Agricultural Wages Board for England and Wales and their salaries, fees and expenses as paid during the past 12 months.

    Chairman

    • Professor C W N Miles, MA FRICS

    Members Appointed by the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries, and Food

    • Mrs C M Cornell OBE BA
    • Professor D D Raphael MA DPhil
    • Mr J A Scott MA MSc ACA
    • Mr J S Wordie CBE MA LLB

    Members Nominated by the National Farmers' Union

    • Mr J A Davies JP
    • Mr R P Francis
    • Mr G A Lewis
    • Mr H E Samuel
    • Mr L Saunders
    • Mr R Saunders
    • Mr R W Watson
    • Mr A Winegarten CBE

    Members Nominated by the National Union of Agricultural and Allied Workers

    • Mr R N Bottini CBE
    • Mr A E Calver MBE JP
    • Mr W E C Chamberlain
    • Mr T J Daniel OBE JP
    • Mr B Hazell CBE JP

    Members Nominated by the Transport and General Workers' Union

    • Mr S L Aldous MBE
    • Mr H A Ray
    • Mr A Mills

    In addition to the usual subsistence allowances and travelling expenses the chairman and the independent members are paid fees of £35 and £21 per meeting, respectively, and representative members can claim loss of earnings of up to £8 per day. Total fees and expenses for the year ended 31st March 1976 amounted to approximately £3,200.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give details of the 31 agricultural wages committees and their salaries and fees and expenses as paid during the past 12 months

    These Committees have been established as set out in the Agricultural Wages Committee (Areas) Order 1974 (SI 1974 No. 515).In addition to the usual subsistence allowances and travelling expenses, chairmen and independent members are paid fees of £5 and £4 per meeting, respectively; and representative members can claim loss of earnings of up to £8 per day.

    Total fees and expense for the year ending 31st March 1976 amounted to approximately £7,000.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will publish a detailed list of the 28 boards, committees, sub-committee boards, &c., sponsored by his Department, the various salaries, fees, expenses, &c., paid during the past 12 months and the total annual costs of these organisations.

    It would not be possible to provide information in addition to that given in the Directory of Paid Public Appointments without disproportionate cost to public funds.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the Government's declared policy of reducing Government expenditure, he will reduce the number of boards, commissions and committees, etc., sponsored by his Department, and the salaries and expenses as paid to the members of the same.

    I am satisfied that the boards and committees for which I am solely or jointly responsible are necessary for the discharge of public business and that there is no excessive expenditure of public funds.

    Beef (Intervention Stocks)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many tonnes of beef are held in intervention in each country of the United Kingdom.

    Separate statistics are maintained only for Great Britain and Northern Ireland. On 25th June, subject to final verification, about 11,800 tonnes were in store in Great Britain and 2,100 tonnes in Northern Ireland. All the Northern Ireland stocks were purchased in Northern Ireland while the Great Britain stocks include some 4,500 tonnes purchased in Northern Ireland.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of United Kingdom annual consumption of beef is represented by current stocks held in intervention.

    It is estimated that current stocks of beef held by the United Kingdom in intervention stores represent just over 1 per cent. of consumption in the last 12 months.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what method is used to release intervention stocks of beef on to the market; and how prices are fixed.

    Intervention stocks of beef held by the United Kingdom are being sold through the Community's "jumelage" scheme, whereby the purchase of beef from intervention stores gives a trader an entitlement to import equivalent quantities from countries outside the EEC, despite present import restrictions. Prices are settled each month by tenders which are adjudicated in the EEC Beef Management Committee.

    Salmon And Trout (South-West England)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) in view of the urgent need to conserve salmon and migratory trout, if he will take steps to encourage byelaws to control sea fishing in the South-West of England;(2) in view of the urgent need to conserve salmon and migratory trout in the South-West, what further steps he proposes to take to stop the illegal taking of salmon in estuarial and tidal waters.

    Water authorities are responsible for the initiation of byelaws to conserve salmon and migratory trout in their areas. It is, therefore, for them to make any new proposals if necessary. My right hon. Friend has, in recent months, approved byelaws dealing with these matters in South-West England. Control over illegal taking of salmon is an enforcement problem which is the responsibility of water authorities.

    Environment

    Driving Licences

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied with the arrangements under which a man aged 64 years 11 months is obliged to pay £5 to renew his driving licence for a period which lasts until he is almost 70, whereas a man aged 65 can renew his licence for £1; and whether he will consider allowing either an adjusted fee or a short-term licence at an annual rate of £1 to meet this difficulty.

    Under the present arrangements the £5 fee covers licence renewal after, as well as before, age 70. To provide for a sliding fee scale or short-term licences would mean increasing fees to cover increased administrative costs.

    Water Supply

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations the Government have received from the water authorities in England and Wales to extend their powers to regulate the supply of water.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action his Department is taking to encourage the public to reduce domestic water consumption.

    I would refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Member to the statement my right hon. Friend the Minister for Planning and Local Government made in the House on Friday 2nd July 1976.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many counties in England and Wales now have some form of restriction on the use of water.

    As at 1st July 1976 restrictions on the use of hosepipes by domestic consumers are in force in parts of 33 counties in England and Wales.

    Toxic Waste Disposal

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will seek to introduce a system of punitive fines against manufacturers of toxic waste who do not produce a certificate demonstrating that it has been properly disposed of.

    The licensing system for waste disposal activities introduced under the Control of Pollution Act 1974 should ensure the safe disposal of all types of waste. Heavy penalties are provided for failure to comply with the licensing system. I am considering what further controls should be introduced under Section 17 of the Act over wastes which are especially dangerous or difficult to dispose of.

    Aerosols

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will produce a report on the environmental dangers of the continued manufacture and use of aerosols.

    A report by my Department's Central Unit on Environmental Pollution on the effects on the atmosphere of chlorofluorocarbon gases, used as propellants in aerosols, was published on 14th April.

    Government Car Service

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total annual mileage covered by the official car of the Minister who makes regular journeys of 22 miles in each direction between his home and Whitehall.

    The total mileage in the year ended 31st March 1976 was 17,000. Although the Minister in question travels home by car on four days a week, he is not brought from home in the mornings but is met at a railway terminus.

    Local Government Debt Interest

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the current interest charges and redemption annually on £100 million of local authority debt.

    Based on the average structure of debt of local authorities in England and Wales, about £13 million.

    Council House Sales (Birmingham)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will refrain from sanctioning the sale by Birmingham District Council of council houses at less than market value.

    I have no request before me from Birmingham City Council to sanction the sale of council houses at less than market value. But, under the consents already available, the authority may sell council houses either at current unrestricted market value or at a reduced price where certain conditions of sale are imposed.

    Building Integrity Division

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what is the proposed staffing establishment of the new Building Integrity Division of the Building Research Establishment, which he announced in answer to the hon. Member for Gravesend (Mr. Ovenden) on 24th June; what will be the rank of the head of the division; whether he will report directly to the director; and to which committee the division will report;(2) what is the proposed budget for the new Building Integrity Division of the Building Research Establishment for the present financial year; and whether he is satisfied that it will be adequately financed to discharge its objectives immediately;(3) whether it is intended that the Building Integrity Division of the Building Research Establishment will also seek to reduce the incidence of failures of design, where the product or technique was not itself faulty but the design of it was; and, if so, whether he will discuss the methods of implementing this with the professional institutions of architects and engineers;(4) whether the staff of the Building Integrity Division of the Building Research Establishment will be recruited from within the existing staff of the establishment; and, if so, whether he will give an assurance that they will be employed full time on their duties, and not also continue with their previous responsibilities, unless he is satisfied that they are able to discharge both effectively and, in particular, give real and early impetus to the work of the new division.

    The new division will be headed by a senior principal scientific officer reporting to the deputy director. It will have initially a full-time staff of six, but present plans envisage expansion to a staff of 15. Recruitment will be mainly from present staff of the establishment, without any overall increase in its staff strength. The proposed budget of £86,000 is thought adequate for the present year but is expected to increase subsequently.The division's programme will be considered by the Department's Research Requirement Committee on Building Regulations and Control and progress will be reported to the establishment's advisory committee. Design faults will be dealt with, in consultation with appropriate external interests.

    Road Haulage Permits

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many hauliers with an allocation of international road haulage permits have asked the IRFO in Newcastle to reissue their permits to other authorised hauliers; how many such permits have been reissued; and what have been the longest and shortest times taken to reissue any such permits.

    To provide this information would require an examination of the records of over 5,000 individual operators. However, permits are usually transferred one week of IRFO receiving the appropriate documentation.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) how many applications have been made for international road haulage permits from companies which have subsequently gone into liquidation; how many permits were issued to such companies; and how many were used and how many were not used;(2) what delays have occurred in the printing department responsible for the issue of international road haulage permits;(3) what right of appeal exists for applicants who have been refused an allocation of international road haulage permits;(4) how many applications for international road haulage permits were refused for the years 1974, 1975 and 1976; and on what grounds;(5) how many applications for international road haulage permits were successful; and how many individual permits were allocated to each applicant for each of the years 1974, 1975 and 1976;(6) how many applications for international road haulage permits have been received for each of the years 1974, 1975 and 1976;(7) who decides how international road haulage permits are to be allocated; and what protection there is to ensure that these are fairly distributed in order to allow small firms to obtain their fair share of permits;(8) what criteria are used in the allocation of international road haulage permits;(9) whether there is a shortage of staff in the international road freight offices;(10) what is the number of international road freight offices in Great Britain; how many staff are employed at each of them; and what is their total running cost.

    All issues of international road haulage permits to United Kingdom operators are made by the Department's International Road Freight Office (IRFO) in Newcastle upon Tyne. The staff, which at present numbers 29, is in general adequate, though some delays may occur at peak periods. I am not aware of any printing delays. The annual cost of £144,000 is entirely covered by fees.Most types of permits are available on demand to any holder of an operator's licence. Difficulties only occur in relation to types for which the countries concerned impose limited quotas; these are at present the general quota permits for France, Federal Republic of Germany, Italy and Austria.The criteria used for allocation are determined by the Department, in close consultation with the Road Haulage and Freight Transport Associations. The main criterion is experience to or through the countries concerned in types of operation for which permits are either not required or are readily available, particularly the road-rail 'piggy back" system or co-operation with a French or German haulier.All applicants, large and small, are treated in the same way and many small firms receive these permits.Liquidations do not normally throw up a surplus of permits, since totals allocated every year exceed the respective quotas by amounts calculated, in the light of experience, to cater for this. Any unused portions of quotas are carried forward to the following year. When the totals have been allocated to those companies which best meet the criteria, all other applications must inevitably be refused. There is no formal machinery for appeal, but dissatisfied applicants can take up their case through their trade association. All such representations are very carefully considered.Most of the statistical information sought is not readily available and could only be obtained at disproportionate cost. However, my Department is currently preparing for publication a report on the operation of the permit system since its inception, which will include a substantial amount of statistical material. Meanwhile it may assist the hon. Member to know that currently IRFO has 5,000 operators on its books who between them receive 80,000 permits of 28 different types.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many cases of forged international road haulage permits have been reported in each of the years 1974, 1975 and 1976.

    Since the coming into force of the International Road Haulage Permits Act 1975 on 1st September 1975, 39 cases involving the use of forged permits have been reported. Figures before that date are not readily available.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many staff are used in investigating alleged cases of forgery of international road haulage permits.

    Such investigation is only one of the many duties of the Department's enforcement staff, and none is exclusively used for this purpose.

    Conservation (Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment in what proportions conservation grant is payable under Section 10 of the Town and Country Planning (Amendment) Act 1972 allocated as between the repair of buildings and general environmental improvements, other than in respect of buildings; and what proportion of the cost of approved works is met by such grants in respect of (a) buildins and (b) general environmental improvement schemes.

    I expect this year to allocate about 75 per cent. of conservation grant under Section 10 of the Town and Country Planning (Amendment) Act 1972 to works of repair to buildings and the remainder to general enhancement work. The proportion of the cost of approved works met by such grant is determined individually in each case.

    M25 (Cranham)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will apply the same conditions to the proposed interchange on the M25 near Cranham as he has applied to the Aire Valley Road scheme, in order to give protesters additional time to put their case.

    I do not understand the hon. Member's reference to the conditions applied to the Aire Valley Road scheme. The inquiry into the proposals for the M25 interchange at Cranham was concluded on 1st July.

    Education And Science

    European Community

    43.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science under what article of the Treaty of Rome the EEC Council of Ministers has authority to take decisions on education or to adopt a programme of action for education.

    I refer my right hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Newham, South (Mr. Spearing) on 18th June.—[Vol. 913, c. 281.]

    Ministerial Appointments

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why it would be disproportionately expensive to give the total number of peers of the realm who hold full and part-time appointments made by his Department.

    I am responsible for appointments to over 130 public bodies and committees and my Department's records do not distinguish peers of the realm from other appointees. To extract the information required has involved a systematic search in various branches of the Department at considerable cost. Some 20 peers have been appointed by me or my predecessors, some to more than one body, as indicated below:

    Name, Appointment and Salary per annum

    • Lord Feather. Victoria and Albert Museum Advisory Council. unpaid.
    • Lord Hood. Victoria and Albert Museum Advisory Council. unpaid.
    • Earl of Perth. Reviewing Committee on the Export of Works of Art. unpaid.
    • Viscount Eccles. Chairman, British Library Board. £5,115.
    • Lord Adeane. British Library Board. £1,000.
    • Lord Gibson. Chairman, Arts Council of Great Britain. unpaid.
    • Lord Balfour of Burleigh. Arts Council of Great Britain. unpaid.
    • Viscount Esher. Arts Council of Great Britain. unpaid.
    • Lord Feather. Arts Council of Great Britain. unpaid.
    • Lord Lloyd. British Film Institute. unpaid.
    • Lord Lloyd. National Film School. unpaid.
    • Lord O'Brien. National Theatre Board. unpaid.
    • Earl of Halsbury. Court of the University of Manchester Institute of Science and Technology. unpaid.
    • Lord Stamp. Governing Board of Imperial College. unpaid.
    • Lord Alexander. National Advisory Council for Education in Industry and Commerce. unpaid.
    • Duke of Northumberland. Chairman (part-time) Medical Research Council. £1,000.
    • Earl of Halsbury. Medical Research Council. £750.
    • Lord Kilbrandon. Social Science Research Council. £750.
    • Earl Selbourne. Agricultural Research Council. £750.
    • Viscount Trenchard. Agricultural Research Council £750.
    • Lord Nugent. Governing Body of the Animal Virus Research Institute (ARC), unpaid.
    • Lord Amhurst. Governing Body of the Animal Virus Research Institute (ARC).
    • unpaid.

    If travelling and subsistence allowances are claimed, these are paid at standard Civil Service rates.

    Family Poverty

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science in view of the decision to defer the introduction of child benefits in full in April 1977, what steps his Department is taking to help family poverty, in particular with regard to the number and levels of educational maintenance allowances and grants for distinctive and essential clothing.

    My right hon. Friend has no statutory powers in this respect: educational maintenance allowances and school clothing grants are entirely within the discretion of the local education authorities; general family support is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services.

    Maintenance Allowances

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what guidance his Department has given local education authorities on publicising educational maintenance allowances in the light of the Third Report of the Expenditure Committee, Session 1974.

    None. Local education authorities are free to use their own discretion in making known the availability of these allowances; but my Department collaborates with the Department of Health and Social Security on the compilation of pamphlets drawing the attention of members of the public to the availability of various welfare benefits, including educational maintenance allowances.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he intends to carry out a new census into the levels and numbers of educational maintenance allowances paid by local education authorities.

    My right hon. Friend has no plans at present for such a census.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will collect information on education and maintenance allowances as part of the annual collection of educational statistics.

    The annual Statistics of Education already show total expenditure on these allowances; the collection of more detailed information cannot be undertaken at present in view of the constraints on manpower and expenditure.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) in the light of the Third Report of the Expenditure Committee, Session 1974, on educational maintenance allowances, what advice he has given to local educational authorities on the level and number of awards they should be making;(2) whether educational maintenance allowances have kept pace with inflation since the 1974 census; and if he will take steps to ensure that educational maintenance allowances are raised in line with inflation.

    It is for each individual local education authority to decide on the level and number of these awards. The Department is not in a position to say which authorities have made adjustments, nor the extent of such adjustments, since the time of the 1974 Survey; but, between spring term 1970 and autumn term 1974, the average annual award rose from £72 to £125, an increase of 74 per cent. compared with some 54 per cent. rise in the cost of living over the same period.

    School Premises (Use)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has made any progress in his consideration of the question of using school premises more widely for the care of children out of school hours.

    As my right hon. Friend said in answer to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Ormskirk (Mr. Kilroy-Silk) on 2nd March —[Vol. 906, c. 524–6]—this question has been receiving consideration interdepartmentally in conjunction with local authority associations. We are continuing to explore the possibilities of greater use. However, such use already occurs in many areas, and is a matter for local authorities within their powers and within the resources available to them.

    Animals (Experiments)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make grants to the Medical Research Council conditional upon a revise. Mr. manual on the production of animals for experimental purposes which will include requirements for the welfare of the animals themselves.

    The Medical Research Council's present schemes for the accreditation or recognition of breeders and suppliers of laboratory animals already require participating organisations to satisfy the council about standards of husbandry. As I said in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Preston, North (Mr. Atkins) on 25th June 1976—[Vol. 913 c. 688]—the coun- cil arranges for the regular inspection of these organisations. I am assured that the inspection covers the welfare of the animals, and, therefore, do not consider it is necessary to impose additional conditions.

    Continental Shelf

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, what proportion of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf and probable 200-mile exclusive economic zone has been covered by a comprehensive geophysical survey; and what proportion of this area has been covered by modern thematic maps at reasonably large scale to show details of the sea bed and geophysical anomalies.

    Taking the area of the zone, excluding Rockall, as 254,000 square miles, the answer to the first part of the Question is about 25 per cent. Geophysical and other data resulting from the surveys, at scales varying from 1:100,000 to 1:250,000, have been published or may be inspected at the Institute of Geological Sciences, South Kensington, for the following proportions of the zone:

    Gravity25 per cent.
    Airborne Magnetic10 per cent.
    Shallow seismic30 per cent.
    Deep seismic10 per cent.
    Bathymetric18 per cent.
    Geological (sediments)17 per cent.
    (information not up to publication standard is available for a further 30 per cent.)
    Geological (solid)25 per cent
    (information not up to publication standard is available for a further 35 per cent.)
    Some data have been obtained for larger areas, but this is not generally available for reasons of commercial confidence.

    Missionaries' Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in view of its detrimental effect on Churches' activities in the mission field, what guidance he has given to local educational authorities over their suggestion of stopping grants towards boarding school education for missionaries' children originally living in the United Kingdom.

    The responsibility for deciding whether to assist in such cases rests with local education authorities, and my right hon. Friend has issued no recent guidance.

    Scotland

    asked the Prime Minister if he has yet fixed a date for his proposed visit to Scotland.The Prime Minister: I hope to announce the date shortly.

    Deaths Of Females (Aberdeenshire)

    asked the Lord Advocate if he will publish in the Official Report details of all female deaths between the age of 14 and 46 years which were the subject of reports by the procurators fiscal in Aberdeen city and Aberdeen county, respectively, between the years 1967 and 1975.The Lord Advocate: I regret that the information requested is not readily available. I shall write to the hon. Gentleman on the matter.

    Energy

    Offshore Technology

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what advice he has received from the Offshore Energy Technology Board concerning his Department's research and development activities in the field of offshore oil and gas technology.

    As well as overseeing my Department's ongoing offshore oil and gas research and development programme during the last year the Offshore Energy Technology Board has also devoted considerable effort to the development of a longer-term strategy to be followed in the future. A paper setting out the board's strategy is being published today and copies have been placed in the Libraries of both Houses. The approach presented in the paper, which was drawn up in close collaboration with my Department, has been accepted by the Government and represents the policy currently being followed in this field. I hope the publication of the paper will lead to a fruitful exchange of views with interested parties.

    Thermal Insulation

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) whether he will consult volnutary agencies such as Friends of the Earth, Durham, in considering a national insulation scheme;(2) what consideration he has given to the formulation of a national insulation scheme; and if he will make a statement.

    The promotion of insulation in domestic and other premises has been a significant feature of the Government's energy conservation programme. I welcome the efforts of voluntary agencies such as Friends of the Earth, Durham, in organising local insulation schemes. My Department continues to consider further measures to promote insultation, but I am not yet in a position to make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will take steps to promote the Home Insulation Project Pack produced by Friends of the Earth, Durham, and CSV; and what other steps he is taking to publicise the grants available for insulation.

    I welcome this useful addition to the advice available from the Government and other bodies on the value of insulation. My officials will certainly draw the attention of any organisation proposing a community service of this type to the existence of this pack. Financial assistance for insultation is available only in very limited, well defined circumstances from funds controlled by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment. In addition, people entitled to supplementary benefit may, under the discretionary powers of the Supplementary Benefits Commission, receive help with the cost of materials for simple draught-proofing. Any steps to publise these two forms of assistance are a matter for the Departments concerned.

    Oil Industry (Government Participation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he has any further progress to report on his part in the negotiations with the oil companies.

    An agreement on the principles of participation with BP was announced to the House on Thursday 1st July.—[Vol. 914, c. 237–8.]—Negotiations with the oil companies with which we have not yet reached agreement are continuing to make progress.

    Ministerial Appointments

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will obtain from the boards details of the actual expenses incurred by those board members as detailed in his reply of 16th June to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West.

    No. Travelling, subsistence and reasonable hospitality expenses incurred directly on the business of the board are reimbursed from board funds and details of these expenses are matters of day-to-day administration for the boards concerned.

    Oil Production Platforms

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is expected to be the draught of the concrete production platforms due to be towed from United Kingdom sites to their production sites in the North Sea in 1977.

    The draught of a concrete platform depends on the extent to which it is ballasted down, which in turn depends on depth of water and weather conditions. Given good weather the three concrete platforms due for tow out from United Kingdom sites in 1977 will be ballasted to a draught of 78 metres.

    Continental Shelf (Surveys)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what steps are being taken to provide modern data of the seabed topography of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf to enable future pipeline routes and future towing routes for deep draught concrete platforms to be planned.

    There is a continuous programme of sea-bed topography survey being undertaken by the Naval Hydrographer. The charts produced as a result assist pipeline promoters with the initial routeing of their pipelines, but the subsequent detailed survey has to be undertaken by them using their own resources. Further surveys of possible tow-out routes for concrete platforms will be carried out as and when required.

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what proportion of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf has been covered by modern bathymetric surveys adequate for the safe towage of concrete production platforms.

    So far it has been found necessary to survey less than 0·5 per cent. of the United Kingdom Continental Shelf in connection with tow-out routes for concrete platforms.

    Hydrography (Clyde-Frigg Gas Field)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what hydrographic surveys were carried out for his Department before the first deep draught concrete production platform to have been built in the United Kingdom was towed from the Clyde to the Frigg field; what was the draught and value of this platform; who carried out the surveys and what hitherto unknown hazards were discovered during the surveys; and when the route had last been surveyed.

    Her Majesty's surveying ships carried out a total of four surveys to assist the safe passage of the concrete gas treatment platform TP1 from the Clyde to the Frigg gas field. The route passed through three critical areas and had to pass outside the 200 metre depth contour to the west of the Hebrides and north of the Shetlands since the area closer inshore had not been surveyed. In the three critical areas the following hazards were found:

  • (a) Firth of Clyde to Ailsa Craig. Last surveyed by Her Majesty's survey ships in the mid 1960s—using sonar still generally used by Her Majesty's surveying ships—and by a French commercial company in 1975. The 1976 surveys by HMS "Hecla" and "Woodlark" showed a depth of 59 metres where 72 metres had previously been found by older methods. Less water was found in a small area close to Ailsa Craig with a least depth of 40 metres not found in previous Naval or commercial surveys.
  • (b) North Channel. Last surveyed by Her Majesty's survey ships in the mid 1960s and by a French commercial company in 1975. HMS "Hecla", in 1976, confirmed shoal depths, widened the surveyed route in an area of difficult cross tidal stream and resolved previous inconsistencies.
  • (c) East Shetlands Basin. Never systematically surveyed until HM survey ships "Hecla", "Herald" and "Fox" surveyed a route five miles wide and about 155 miles long from the 200 metre line north of the Shetlands to the Frigg gas field site. The bathymetry, whilst complicated, had no natural hazards for the platform, but 13 wrecks or other obstructions were located and examined, of which the most hazardous was the wreck of a World War I U-boat with a least depth of 90 metres over it.
  • This platform had a minimum draught of 36·5 metres during tow out to the Frigg field. Its value was in excess of £60 million.

    Nuclear Power (Fast Reactor)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will give an assurance that no decision will be made to proceed with a commercial fast breeder reactor until the report of the Royal Commission on the Environment concerning the hazards associated with this technology has been published and an opportunity given for its debate by Parliament.

    I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer that I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Dunbartonshire, West (Mr. Campbell) on 26th May. —[Vol. 912, c. 273.]

    Wales

    Local Government Expenditure (Dyfed)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps he is taking to make further finance available to help Dyfed County Council; and if he will make a statement.

    Exchequer support for local authority current expenditure in 1976–77 is determined by the rate support grant settlement of November 1975. The Government have recently asked local authorities to re-examine their ex- penditure plans with a view to containing expenditure within the limits implied by that settlement and the White Paper on Public Expenditure (Cmnd. 6393).

    Land Nationalisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether his Department is considering possible Government options for the nationalisation of agricultural land in Wales.

    No. The Government have no proposals for the nationalisation of farmland in Wales.

    Economic Prospects

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will make a statement on the prospects for the Welsh economy during the remainder of 1976.

    Current trends show a recovery from the recent recession and Wales is expected to benefit in the remainder of 1976 from a general improvement in the United Kingdom economy.

    National Finance

    Investment Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing what the net income and net percentage rate of return would be on an investment of £1,000, £10,000 and £100,000, respectively, yielding 20 per cent. gross before tax, made by a married man with two children earning £3,000, £5,000 and £10,000 per annum gross before tax, respectively; and what the effective real rate of return, net after tax, would be, allowing for the retrospective annual rates of inflation existing in the 12 months up to June 1974, June 1975 and June 1976, the current rates of taxation on earned and investment income to apply in all cases.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what total public expenditure is represented (a) as a percentage of GDP and (b) as a percentage of GNP in 1975 and 1976, the figure for 1976 being the best available estimate to date.

    Personal Savings (European Community)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing both in terms of the relevant local currency, and converted to £ sterling at the appropriate exchange rate, for each present member

    Per cent.
    19651966196719681969197019711972197319741975
    France11·111·111·511·510·312·512·212·013·312·512·7
    Germany12·211·211·012·012·514·013·814·914·215·215·9
    Italy16·615·514·215·216·715·818·218·719·518·019·0
    United Kingdom8·79·08·47·98·29·18·810·010·913·613·9
    Fairly comprehensive estimates of household savings and related magnitudes in local currency terms are published by the OECD Secretariat in Table 9 of "National Accounts of OECD Countries", a copy of which has been placed in the Library. There is no obviously appropriate exchange rate by which to convert savings estimates for other countries into sterling terms. For this reason, it is standard practice to express savings of households as a ratio of personal disposable income, as is done in the above table.

    European Community

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the net financial gains accruing to date to the United Kingdom since entry to the EEC.

    The amounts of the United Kingdom's contribution to, and receipts from, the Community budget in the period from accession to date are as follows:

    £ million
    Gross ContributionReceiptNet Contribution
    1973181·178·7102·4
    1974180·5149·930·6
    1975341·7397·7-56·0
    1976 (First quarter)92·567·924·6
    Total795·8694·2101·6

    State of the EEC ( a) proportion of average household income saved in each year since 1960 and ( b) total personal sector savings in each year since 1960.

    Because of statistical problems and institutional differences, household savings figures are not directly comparable between countries. For the biggest EEC economies, however the proportions of disposable household income saved are believed to have been broadly as follows in the period since 1965:

    Public Sector Borrowing (Foreign Currencies)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, further to the reply given to the hon. Member for Surrey, North-West, on 8th June, (Official Report, Volume 912, column 666) by the Financial Secretary, how much of such foreign currency borrowing carries a guarantee by the borrowers themselves against exchange loss on repayment; what the total cost would be of implementing the guarantee if all such loans were to be repaid now; and whether the cost of meeting such guarantees in the case of local authorities would fall on the ratepayers.

    On the first part of the hon. Member's Question, all loans denominated in foreign currency must be repaid in foreign currency; the borrower's signature to the loan agreement therefore constitutes a guarantee against exchange loss by the lenders.On the second part, I have nothing to add to my reply of 8th June.On the third part, where the borrowing is under the central Government exchange cover scheme, any additional sterling cost arising from a change in exchange rates will fall on the Exchange Equalisation Account; but where the borrowing is not under that scheme, any additional cost will have to be met from the local authority's revenues, whether from central Government grants or from rates.

    Productivity

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, taking 1950 as a base, he will produce a table showing the increase or decrease in productivity of the working population in the United Kingdom in each year since 1950.

    The table below shows net output per person employed in the United Kingdom at constant 1970 prices in index number form:

    NET OUTPUT PER PERSON EMPLOYED IN THE WHOLE ECONOMY
    At constant 1970 prices
    1950=100
    1950100·0
    1951100·6
    1952100·0
    1953103·4
    1954106·0
    1955108·1
    1956108·4
    1957110·6
    1958111·5
    1959115·8
    1960119·7
    1961120·6
    1962122·3
    1963126·3
    1964132·1
    1965134·6
    1966136·7
    1967140·9
    1968147·5
    1969150·5
    1970153·6
    1971158·8
    1972162·4
    1973168·0
    1974166·2
    1975165·0
    Output is measured by the output-based estimate of gross domestic product at constant factor cost. Persons employed include employees in employment, employers and self-employed persons plus Her Majesty's Forces. Full-time and part-time workers are all counted as full units.

    Tax Avoidance

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is aware that commercial organisations are actively promoting tax havens such as the Channel Islands; and if he will disallow claims for tax allowances on the fees for conferences on such matters.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 6th July 1976; Vol. 914, c. 519–20], gave the following information:I know that the possible uses of tax havens are urged on prospective clients by some tax advisers and that conferences are organised at which these and the obstacles to them are discussed. The tax deductibility of fees for attending such conferences is governed by the general law under which expenditure is allowable only if incurred wholly and exclusively for the purposes of a trade, profession or vocation or wholly exclusively and necessarily in the performance of the duties of an office or employment. Whether or not any particular expenditure fell to be allowed could be judged only by reference to the facts of the particular case.

    Dependants Overseas

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the number of (a) children and (b) wives, resident overseas, for whom taxpayers resident in the United Kingdom are accorded allowances against income tax.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 6th July 1976; Vol. 914, c. 522], gave the following information:It is estimated that child tax allowances are given at present for about 500,000 children who are not resident in this country. I regret that information about the number of non-resident wives of taxpayers resident in the United Kingdom is insufficient to enable an estimate to be made in answer to the second half of the Question.

    Employment

    Service Industries

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people are employed in the industrial and commercial undertakings ancillary to manufacturing such as goods handling, transport, sales and export services.

    Information is not compiled in the form requested. My Department's statistics are analysed according to the Standard Industrial Classification. The most recent figures for the service industries relate to December 1975 and were published in the May 1976 issue of the Department of Employment Gazette. The employment figures for particular services, however, do not distinguish separately those engaged on ancillary work for manufacturing industries.

    Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many registered disabled people are unemployed in the Haverhill, Newmarket, Bury St. Edmunds and Mildenhall areas of Suffolk; how these figures compare with the numbers out of work at the same date in each of the preceding five years; how many disabled in each of these areas are known to be receiving training under Government auspices; and what help has been provided to local

    Number of registered disabled people unemployed as at June of
    Local Office Areas1973197419751976Number of disabled people currently receiving training
    Haverhill22242335
    Newmarket224135431
    Bury St. Edmunds506177691
    Mildenhall141227252
    At present there is no scheme in operation for helping local employers financially to adapt premises and machinery for disabled people; but the resettlement services of the Employment Service Agency are available to give evidence in individual cases. In his statement on 10th December—[Vol. 902, c. 460]—my hon. Friend the Minister of State announced that he would be asking the MSC to introduce a scheme of capital grants for employers

    "who modify their premises or install special or modified equipment to enable disabled people to enter or remain in their employment".

    This scheme is under discussion.

    Manufacturing Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for each present member State of the EEC the percentage increase or decrease in those employed in manufacturing industry since 1950.

    The attached table gives percentage changes in the size of the civilian labour force employed in manufacturing from 1960, the earliest

    employers to assist them in adapting plant and machinery to enable disabled persons to work them;

    (2) what is the number of registered disabled people now known to his Department to be unemployed in the Bury St. Edmunds, Newmarket and Haverhill areas of Suffolk; and how this compares with the numbers of disabled out of work at the same date in each of the previous five years.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that local figures of unemployment among registered disabled people are available only for the three years preceding the current year. The required information in respect of these periods is as follows:common date for which data are available, to 1974. It is regretted that comparative data are not available for Denmark or Luxembourg.

    CHANGES IN THE SIZE OF THE CIVILIAN LABOUR FORCE EMPLOYED IN MANUFACTURING IN EACH MEMBER COUNTRY OF THE EEC FROM 1960 TO 19741
    CountryPercentage Change
    Belgium+2.4
    DenmarkNA
    France+13.82
    Germany+6.92
    Ireland+29.1
    Italy+14.8
    LuxembourgNA
    Netherlands- 9.92
    United Kingdom-6.12
    1 Calculated from similar points in each year or from annual averages. Usually no distinction is made between persons employed full time and those working less than full time.
    2 Based on provisional figures for 1974. NA Not available.

    Source: ILO Year Books of Labour Statistics.

    Unemployment (France, Germany And Great Britain)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment which of the following EEC countries has more than 1 million unemployed: France, Germany and Great Britain.

    In May 1976, the latest month for which data are available for all three countries, the seasonally adjusted figures show unemployment to have been over 1 million in Germany and Great Britain and just under 1 million in France.

    School Leavers

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is aware that four in every 23 pupils leaving London schools in the summer will be going straight on to the unemployment register; and what action he proposes to take to change this situation.

    The placing of summer leavers into employment normally extends over the period July-October and many employers have not yet finalised their recruitment plans. The Government have taken a large number of measures to improve the job and training prospects for young people. The adequacy of these measures is under constant review.

    Population (Age Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many men between 60 and 65 years of age are working;(2) how many men aged 65 to 70 years are employed;(3) how many employed men and women are aged between 16 and 21 years.

    Information in the precise form requested is not available. Approximate estimates can be provided by applying the proportions of employees in employment in each age group, as shown by the Family Expenditure Survey, to the census of employment figures. This method provides the following estimates which relate to Great Britain at June 1974.Approximate estimates of employees in employment

    • Aged over 16 and under 20 years, 990,000 males; 940,000 females.
    • Aged over 60 and under 65 years, 970,000 males.
    • Aged over 65 years, 460,000 males.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many men between 60 and 65 years of age are unemployed;(2) how many men and women, respectively, between the ages of 16 and 21 years are unemployed, excluding those undertaking ordinary or further education.

    At January 1976, the latest date for which information is available, 129,107 males aged 60 and under 65 years were registered as unemployed in Great Britain. At the same date, 130,473 males and 94,072 females aged under 20 years were unemployed. These figures exclude adult students registered for vacation employment.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many men retire at 60 years; and what are the main occupations that lead to retirement at that age;(2) what proportion of those men who retire at 60 years of age take up other employment;(3) what proportion of the total male work force retires at 60 years of age.

    Havering

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will set out the figures of wholly unemployed and unfilled vacancies within the London borough of Havering.

    At June 1976, 5,033 people were registered as unemployed in the area covered by the Dagenham, Horn-church and Romford employment offices. At that date, 473 notified unfilled vacancies were held by the employment offices and 64 by the careers offices. Because of possible duplication the vacancy figures for employment offices and careers offices should not be added together nor do they constitute a measure of total vacancies in the area.

    Unemployed Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will provide figures for unemployment for June 1976 in the private and public sectors comparable with those given in his reply of 13th April 1976 to the hon. Member for Blaby, Official Report 13th April 1976 c. 444.

    The numbers of unemployed whose last job was in either the private or public sector can be estimated only in an imprecise way by allocating the figures for each Minimum List Heading of the Standard Industrial Classification to the sector appropriate to the majority of those in that heading. These numbers for June, expressed as a proportion of total employees in each of the private and public sectors, are 6·8 and 2·4 per cent respectively.

    Overseas Development

    Hydrography

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what financial aid has been given in the last five years towards the costs of carrying out hydro-graphic surveys in overseas areas.

    So far as I have been able to determine in the time available, the only work by the Hydrographer of the Navy financed from the aid programme during the last five years was a survey of Male Harbour in the Maldives in 1972 at a cost of £35,000. Any inshore surveys which civilian contractors may have carried out will have been few in number and small in extent.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what requests have been received for assistance in carrying out hydrographic surveys in the Red Sea, Gulf of Suez and the north and south approaches to the Suez Canal.

    My Ministry has received no specific requests for assistance in carrying out hydrographic surveys in these waters. Discussions on the need for such surveys were held in March between officials of several Departments and the Egyptian Minister of Marine Transport. I cannot at this stage say what the outcome of those discussions is likely to be.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what provision is being made for aid to provide hydro-graphic surveying of main shipping routes and likely exclusive economic zones in the waters of dependent territories.

    I have made no specific allocations for present or future work of this kind. The uses to which the aid programme funds are put are determined by the requests received from overseas Governments and the extent of the common ground betwen the latters' views and those of my Ministry on the sectors which should be given priority.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what notification has been received within the last five years for hydrographic surveys from the Solomon Islands, New Hebrides, Fiji and Caribbean territories.

    Such surveys were carried out around the Solomon Islands, New Hebrides and Fiji in 1972–75, the first two of which have requested further surveys.One notification has been received from Trinidad, and various surveys in the Caribbean have been carried out by the Hydrographic Department as part of their own programme.None of these surveys has been financed from the aid programme.

    Land Surveys

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what financial aid has been given in the last five years towards the costs of carrying out land surveys in overseas areas.

    Our aid in this field is very largely provided through the operations of the Directorate of Overseas Surveys. The cost of these operations in the last five financial years was as follows.

    1971–72£1,549,000
    1972–73£1,628,000
    1973–74£1,715,000
    1974–75£2,225,000
    1975–76£2,635,000

    Marine Sciences

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what ship time has been allocated in the last 10 years by Her Majesty's survey ships in aid of non-defence marine scientific tasks.

    I have been advised that since 1965 about 74 ship months have been devoted to non-defence marine scientific tasks.

    West Africa

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what aid is currently offered in the field of industrial development to Dahomey, Nigeria, Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, The Ivory Coast, Ghana and Togo; and what projects and proposals are currently under consideration.

    We have no aid programme in Guinea. Our aid to the other countries for industrial development is, in accordance with our general aid strategy, far less prominent than the assistance we give in agriculture and education. But we are financing studies in Ghana for the improvement of the infrastructure necessary for agriculture-based and manufcaturing industries at a cost of £30,000 in 1976–77, and providing training for Nigerian and Ghanain students pursuing industrial courses in this country at a cost of about £160,000.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what aid is currently offered in the field of education to Dahomey, Nigeria, Liberia, Sierra Leone, The Ivory Coast, Ghana and Togo, respectively.

    British aid spent on education is devoted mainly to the supplementation of British teaching staff for universities, teacher training colleges, technical colleges, and secondary schools, and training here of nationals for the countries concerned. For these countries expenditure this year will be about:

    £ million
    Peoples Republic of Benin0·50
    Nigeria1·7
    Liberia0·060
    Sierra Leone0·370
    Ivory Coast0·114
    Ghana1
    Togo0·048

    Social Services

    Medical Products (Export Promotion)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services which countries have been visited by his Department's export drive missions for British medical equipment and expertise; and which countries are to be visited in the coming 12 months.

    Countries visited by officers from the Industries and Export Division in my Department over the last five years are shown in List A attached. The programme of visits for the next 12 months has not yet been finalised but is expected to include those countries shown in List B.My predecessor visited France and a number of countries in the Middle East and I am proposing to visit the Middle East and Nigeria over the next six months. My right hon. Friend the Minister of State (Health) has visited Israel, Brazil, Venezuela, Mexico, the USSR and the United States of America and has plans for a visit to the West Coast of the USA later this year.

    List A (Countries visited June 1972-June 1976)

    • Algeria
    • Bahrain
    • Bulgaria
    • Cyprus
    • Finland
    • German Democratic Republic
    • Iceland
    • Iraq
    • Italy
    • Korea
    • Lebanon
    • Malta
    • Norway
    • Philippines
    • Rumania South
    • Africa
    • Sweden
    • Turkey
    • USSR
    • Zambia
    • Australia
    • Belgium
    • Canada
    • Czechoslovakia
    • France
    • Greece
    • Indonesia
    • Irish Republic
    • Japan
    • Kuwait
    • Libya
    • Netherlands
    • Oman
    • Portugal
    • Saudi Arabia
    • Spain
    • Switzerland
    • United Arab Emirates
    • Venezuela
    • Austria
    • Brazil
    • China
    • Denmark
    • Federal Republic of Germany
    • Hong Kong
    • Iran
    • Israel
    • Jordan
    • Kenya
    • Malaysia
    • Nigeria
    • Peru
    • Qatar
    • Singapore
    • Syria
    • Thailand
    • USA
    • Yugoslavia

    List B (Countries to be visited July 1976 July 1977)

    • Australia
    • Egypt
    • Ghana
    • Iraq
    • Malaysia
    • Norway
    • Saudi Arabia
    • Spain
    • USA
    • Canada
    • Finland
    • Gulf States
    • Iran
    • Netherlands
    • Philippines
    • Sicily
    • Sweden
    • Denmark
    • Germany
    • Italy
    • Israel
    • Nigeria
    • Singapore
    • Switzerland

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give an assurance that his Department's export drive mission has operated and will operate in full consultation with the Ministry for Overseas Development when selling to developing countries.

    Good liaison has been and will continue to be maintained where the export support activities of my Department overlap with those of the Ministry of Overseas Development. One of the Senior Principal Medical Officers in my Department acts as Chief Medical Adviser to the Ministry of Overseas Development.

    Bathgate (Departmental Office)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on proposed cuts in staff in the Bathgate office of his Department.

    No. Reductions in staff proposed for the Bathgate office arise solely from the normal annual review of local office staffing needs to meet forecast work loads.

    Gingivitis (Chlorhexidine Gel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make an examination of the procedures under which chlorhexidine gel (corsodyl) was licensed for the treatment of gingivitis; whether the procedures would enable other products which have doubtful health and safety values to receive licences; and what further action he proposes to take to safeguard dental and periodontal patients.

    An applicant for the grant of a product licence is required to produce evidence of the safety, quality and efficacy of the product, and this is carefully scrutinised by my professional advisers. This procedure was followed before a licence was granted in respect of the marketing of chlorhexidine gel (corsodyl) as an adjunct in the treatment of gingivitis. I am satisfied that the procedures are effective and that no other action about this product is called for.

    Mobility Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now implement the application of the mobility allowance to persons aged between 50 years and retirement age and to those aged between 5 and 14 years.

    We have said that we will extend the allowance to the estimated 100,000 new beneficiaries over a period of about three years in the order of those aged 15 to 50, children aged 5 to 14 and then those aged 51 to pensionable age. The age group 15 to 50 are already eligible to apply and the next age group will be phased in as soon as possible.

    Administration Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the annual cost of administering (a) the regional tier in the National Health Service and (b) the area tier in the National Health Service.

    The latest figures available at present are those shown in the accounts of health authorities for 1974–75 in which the total expenditure classified in accordance with the accounting instructions as Administration, including expenditure on professional and technical administration (Medical, Nursing, Works and Maintenance, etc.), was £24·49 million for regional health authorities and £48·07 million for area health authorities.

    Central Middlesex Hospital (Out-Patients)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the waiting times for out-patients' appointments at the Central Middlesex Hospital now amount to 26 weeks for ENT, 18 weeks for varicose veins, 27 weeks for orthopaedics and 13 weeks for urology; if there are vacancies for medical staff in the establishment provided for these specialties; if the consultants operate a common waiting list for private and NHS patients; and if he will make a statement.

    Recent medical staff sickness and a vacancy have affected the waiting times in orthopaedic and urology respectively. Nevertheless in all these specialties patients needing urgent attention are given special priority. Currently there are no medical staff vacancies in these specialties. It is unusual for out-patients to be seen privately at this hospital.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much is being paid in supplementary benefit to men aged between 60 and 65 years.

    The total cost of supplementary benefit in 1975–76 was about £1,195 million, and it is estimated that approximately £44 million would have been paid to men aged between 60 and 65 years of age.

    Northwich Park Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the total cost of building and equipping Northwick Park Hospital to date; what is the estimate of expenditure on its minor and major capital works for the next three years; and what is the annual cost of running the district hospital and the clinical research section, respectively.

    The cost to date of developing Northwick Park has been £23 million of which the Medical Research Council has met almost £7 million. Capital expen- diture over the next three years will be negligible unless it is decided to extend the geriatric facilities during that period. The cost of running the district hospital during 1975–76 was £8·8 million; the Clinical Research Centre costs were £3·8 million.

    One-Parent Families

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now remove the full-time work qualification for family income supplement in the case of a one-parent family.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many one-parent families there are in Great Britain at the latest available date.

    The Finer Committee estimated, mainly on the basis of the 1971 Census of Population, that the number of one-parent families in 1971 was 620,000. No firm estimate of the increase since 1971 is yet available, but the number probably reached 650,000 in 1973.

    Population (Age Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many men are aged between 60 and 65 years;(2) how many women are aged between 60 and 65 years;(3) how many men are aged between 65 and 70 years.

    It is estimated that in England and Wales, at 30th June 1975, there were 1,323,000 males and 1,494,000 females between 60 and 65 years of age and 1,124,000 males between 65 and 70.

    Architects And Engineers

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many architects and engineers there are on the planning staffs of the area health authorities in the North-West.

    Of 20 works posts in area health authorities of the North-Western Region with job descriptions that include planning, four are held by architects and nine by professionally qualified engineers.

    Fluoridation

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps are being taken by the area health authorities in the North-West to fluoridate the water supply of Lancashire and most of the Greater Manchester area including Trafford; and what steps will be taken to establish whether this proposal meets the wishes of local residents.

    In the region of the North-Western Regional Health Authority all area health authorities—the bodies responsible for deciding to introduce fluoridation in their areas—have passed resolutions in favour of the measure. Local opinion was taken into account, particularly through community health councils. Means of implementing these resolutions are under consideration.

    Child Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what figure the family allowance of £1 for the first child would have to be increased in order to maintain the same overall level of family support if the proposed increase in child tax allowances were to be reduced from £60 to £30 per child.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18th June 1976; Vol. 913, c. 298], gave the following corrected information:If the proposed increase in child tax allowances were reduced from £60 to £30 a child the saving to the Exchequer would be £150 million. Assuming such a sum were available to defray the net Exchequer cost of increasing the proposed new benefit for first children it would enable the gross rate to be increased from £1 to £1·75.The saving to the Exchequer was previously wrongly stated as £250 million.

    Northern Ireland

    Taxis (Belfast)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many taxis operating in the people's taxis scheme of the Falls and Shankhill Road have been prosecuted for operating with- out a licence, for overcrowding, or for breach of insurance laws; how much revenue these operations are estimated to take away from Citybus Limited; how many such taxis are estimated to operate; whether he has any evidence of paramilitary involvement; and what plans he has to deal with this situation.

    Since 1972 there have been 21 prosecutions of taxi drivers for operating without a licence, and 18 for operating in breach of the insurance laws. There have been no prosecutions for overcrowding.No accurate estimate is possible, but it is thought that if there were no taxis the revenue of Citybus might be at least £1 million more.Of the 758 licensed taxis in Belfast some 400 are estimated to be operating specifically in the Falls and Shankhill areas. There are also believed to be some unlicensed taxis operating in these areas in this way.I understand that there is no specific evidence of para-military involvement.I am keeping the situation under review.

    Schools (Reorganisation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what information is available as to the number of voluntary schools willing to participate in the comprehensivisation of secondary education in Northern Ireland.

    None. The whole question of reorganisation is the subject of a consultative document which, as I told the House on 1st July, it is hoped to publish before the end of this month—[Vol. 914, c. 625–6].

    Further Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many children in Northern Ireland who reach further academic education have got there from secondary schools; how many from grammar schools; and how many in each such category complete successfully academic or professional courses of study.

    Information as recorded in the Northern Ireland Education Statistics Bulletin Number 20, is as follows:

    DESTINATION OF SCHOOL LEAVERS*† DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR 1973–74
    Secondary (intermediate) schoolsTechnical Intermediate schoolsGrammar schoolsAll schools
    NumberPercentageNumberPercentageNumberPercentageNumberPercentage
    Boys
    All leavers9,012100·06100·03,249100·012,267100·0
    Going to:
    Universities911·0233·31,17636·21,26910·3
    Colleges of Education‡650·7116·71374·22031·7
    Ulster College981·1350·02628·13633·0
    Institutions of Further Education in Northern Ireland (F.E. classes)1,18313·133910·41,52212·4
    Other educational institutions2192·51294·03482·8
    Employment§7,35681·61,20637·18,56269·8
    Girls
    All leavers7,798100·03,381100·011,179100·0
    Going to:
    Universities500·684425·08948·0
    Colleges of Education‡1141·564118·97556·8
    Ulster College220·31524·51741·5
    Institutions of Further Education in Northern Ireland (F.E. classes)1,60620·648314·32,08918·7
    Other educational institutions1421·81113·32532·3
    Employment§5,86475·21,1503407,01462·7
    Boys and Girls
    All leavers16,810100·06100·06,630100·023,446100·0
    Going to:
    Universities1410·8233·32,02030·52,1639·2
    Colleges of Education‡1791·1116·777811·79584·1
    Ulster College1200·7350·04146·35372·3
    Institutions of Further Education in Northern Ireland (F.E. classes)2,78916·682212·43,61115·4
    Other educational institutions3612·12403·66012·6
    Employment §13,22078·72,35635·515,57666·4
    * Excludes special and independent schools.
    † Excludes all leavers from full-time further education courses in institutions of further education.
    ‡Includes leavers going to teacher training at the Education Centre of The New University of Ulster, Coleraine, the Faculty of Education of the Ulster College and leavers enrolled in the four-year degree courses in the Colleges.
    § Includes those who left for other reasons.
    Even if it were possible to identify the number of students who attained higher qualifications according to which type of school they attended, it could not be extracted without a disproportionate use of resources.

    Health And Social Services (Capital Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much capital expenditure there has been in each of the areas now comprising the four health and social services area boards in Northern Ireland over the last 20 years.

    The information in the form requested could not be provided without a disproportionate use of resources because records of capital expenditure by the former county and county borough health and welfare committees are not readily available. However, the capital expenditure on hospitals by the former Northern Ireland Hospitals Authority for the 25 year period up to 30th September 1973 is as follows:

    (£ millions)
    Eastern Board32·276
    Northern Board5·759
    Western Board8·878
    Southern Board12·686
    Total59·599
    In addition £9·845 million was spent on capital equipment not associated with works schemes.The capital expenditure on hospitals, community health and personal social services for the period 1st October 1973 to 31st March 1975 is as follows:

    (£ millions)
    Eastern Board7·311
    Northern Board2·691
    Western Board2·304
    Southern Board2·252
    Total14·558
    In addition £3·736 million was spent on capital equipment not associated with works schemes.

    Criminal Injuries Compensation

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much compensation has been awarded under the Criminal Injuries to Property (Compensation) (Northern Ireland) Act 1971 in each year to the latest available date.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave to a Question from the hon. Member for Bexleyheath (Mr. Townsend) on 6th July 1976.—[Vol. 914, c. 510.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much compensation has been awarded under the Criminal Injuries to Persons (Compensation) (Northern Ireland) Act 1968 for each year of its operation to the latest available date.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave to a Question from the hon. Member for Bexleyheath (Mr. Townsend) on 6th July 1976.—[Vol. 914, c. 511.]

    Prisoners (Transfer From England)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) how many loyalist prisoners have been accepted on transfer from English prisons; and what are their sentences and names;(2) how many Republican prisoners have been accepted on transfer from English prisons; and what are their sentences and names.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 30th June 1976; Vol. 914, c. 195], gave the following information:Of those prisoners transferred from England since June 1972 to serve the remainder of their sentences in Northern motivation for the offences for which Ireland four have claimed Republican they were convicted, and they are serving sentences of life imprisonment; none has claimed Loyalist motivation. It is not the practice to publish the names of prisoners currently serving sentences.

    Royal Ulster Constabulary

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will consider the need for a purpose-built training centre for the police force in Northern Ireland.

    This need has already been considered, and in 1975 the Police Authority for Northern Ireland submitted plans for a new college to replace the existing training centre at Enniskillen. However, in view of the need to curb Government expenditure it was decided to postpone these plans for the time being, and this decision was announced in the White Paper on Public Expenditure (Cmnd. 6393) presented to Parliament by my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer. The Police Authority naturally regretted the postponement of its plans but accepted the reasons for the decision.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the total strength of the Royal Ulster Constabulary

    31st May 197131st May 197231st May 197331st May 197431st May 197531st May 1976
    RUC3,9724,1214,3034,4484,6615,055
    RUC Reserve:
    Full-Time42237364617723
    Part-Time7371,7092,2122,1744,2274,044
    TOTAL7371,7512,4492,5384,8444,767

    Handicapped Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list all the advisory committees reporting to him in Northern Ireland; which committees include a disabled member; if he will encourage those which do not to co-opt a disabled member if they have the power to do so or, if appropriate, appoint one himself; and if he will make a statement.

    , pursuant to the reply [Official Report, 6th July 1976; Vol. 914, c. 515], gave the following information:The following Advisory Committees in Northern Ireland report to me or my Department.

    • Transport Users Committee
    • Ulster Countryside Committee
    • Nature Reserves Committee
    • Lagan Valley Regional Park Committee Wild Birds Advisory Committee
    • Northern Ireland Water Council
    • Northern Ireland Training Advisory Committee (Water)
    • Industries Development Advisory Committee
    • Northern Ireland Consumer Council
    • NI Electricity Consumers Council
    • NI Trade Statistics Consultative Committee
    • Hotel Grants Advisory Committee
    • Sports Council for Northern Ireland
    • Youth Committee for Northern Ireland
    • Northern Ireland Schools Curriculum Committee
    • Advisory Committee on Optimum Use of Facilities
    • Advisory Boards for Postgraduate Awards
    • Scholarships Advisory Committee
    • Council for Continuing Education
    • Higher Education Co-ordination Advisory Committee

    and of the RUC Reserve at the latest available date; and what were the equivalent figures on the same date in each of the last five years.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report 1st July 1976; Vol. 914, c. 255], gave the following information:

    • Interim Standing Advisory Conference on Community Associations
    • Working Party on Selection Procedure
    • General Agricultural Advisory Committee
    • Agricultural Training Advisory Committee
    • Cattle Improvement Committee
    • Laying Test Advisory Committee
    • Lough Erne Advisory Committee
    • The Water Council
    • The Legal Aid Advisory Committee
    • The Committee on the Criminal Injuries Property Compensation Act (1971)
    • The Committee on the Criminal Injuries to Persons Act (1968)
    • The Police Advisory Board
    • The Northern Ireland Standing Advisory Commission on Human Rights
    • The Northern Ireland Health and Social Services Council
    • Advisory Committee on Health Education
    • Central Dental Advisory Committee
    • Central Medical Advisory Committee
    • Central Nursing and Midwifery Advisory Committee
    • Central Personal Social Services Advisory Committee
    • Central Pharmaceutical Advisory Committee
    • Distinction Awards Committee
    • Poisons Boards for Northern Ireland
    • Northern Ireland Medical Manpower Advisory Committee
    • University Medical and Dental Advisory Committee
    • Building Regulations Committee
    • Construction Industry Advisory Council
    • Ulster Savings Committee
    • Vaughans Charity
    • Public Service Training Committee
    • Statute Law Committee
    • Charities Advisory Committee
    • The Economic Council
    • Standing Manpower Committee of the Economic Council
    • Employment Services Management Committee
    • Youth Careers Guidance Committee
    • Northern Ireland Training Council
    • Government Training Centre Advisory Committee
    • Disablement Advisory Committees

    There are five disabled members on the Disablement Advisory Committees. The number of disabled people on other committees is not known. I will certainly consider the appointment of disabled persons when suitable vacancies arise.

    The Central Appointments Unit for Northern Ireland maintains an index of persons suitable and willing to serve on public bodies and I will be glad to receive names of disabled persons willing to have their names included in this index.