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Volume 918: debated on Thursday 28 October 1976

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 28th October 1976

Environment

Camping Working Party (Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he intends to introduce legislation to implement the recommendations of the report of the Camping Working Party; and, if so, when he expects such legislation to be introduced.

Legislation is likely to be needed, but it will not be introduced in the next Session of Parliament.

Housing Association Properties (Fair Rents)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the fact that in some areas rent officers are fixing fair rents for housing association houses and flats far above those for identical council property, particularly in New Towns, if he will consider transferring rent fixing on housing association properties to local authorities and by relation to council, and not private, rents in the area.

We are considering in the context of the housing policy review the problems arising in some places from the disparity between the rents registered for housing associations and the rents of comparable local authority housing. The latter are of course affected by the pooling of rents for old and new property and by the willingness of local authorities making rate fund contributions to the housing revenue accounts.

Direct Labour

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many district auditor reports critical of direct labour have been submitted in the last 12 months; and which councils are involved.

Auditors' reports since 1st November 1975 have drawn attention in 13 cases to the need for improvements, mainly in the provision of management information or the control of bonus schemes, in the operation of local authority direct labour organisations in England engaged on construction work. The 13 authorities are the Northumberland County Council, the Knowsley, Manchester, St. Helens, Solihull, Sunderland and Walsall Metropolitan District Councils and the Chester-le-Street, Darlington, Easington, Sedgefield, Tiverton and Wear Valley District Councils.

Housing Stress Areas

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the criteria for housing stress areas; and if he will list all stress areas in England.

I refer the hon. Member to the replies that I gave to the hon. Member for Mitcham and Morden (Mr. Douglas-Mann) on 5th August and to the hon. Member for Rochdale (Mr. Smith) on 12th October.—[Vol. 916, c. 984–6; Vol. 917, c. 87.]

Derelict Land

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many acres of derelict land were restored in Staffordshire Moorlands District Council in each of the past six years.

The figures are as follows: 1971, 35 acres; 1972, 25 acres; 1973, 40 acres; 1974, 5 acres; 1975, 12 acres; 1976, to date, 3 acres.

Local Councillors (Allowances)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects to be able to make a statement about the future of the attendance allowance system for local authority members.

Caravan Sites

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he now expects to receive the report of the Cripps Inquiry into the working of the Caravan Sites Act 1968.

Petrol (Lead Content)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the present maximum permitted level of the lead in petrol compared with the levels permitted in Bonn, New York and

Location
United KingdomBonnNew YorkTokyo
Maximum permitted lead level (grammes/litre)0·55*0·150·420·28†
0·02‡
A reduction to 0·15 grammes/litre in the United Kingdom would have a substantial effect on oil refining costs, both in terms of additional capital investment and increased crude oil requirements, but extensive technical studies would be needed to quantify them.
* This level is being observed voluntarily by the oil industry. Regulations will be introduced to make a level of 0·50 per litre mandatory with effect from 30th November 1976 and 0·45 grammes per litre from 1st January 1978 respectively.
† No statutory maximum lead level exists in Japan. This figure is the recommendation of the "Japanese Standards Institute".
‡ Recommendation of the Japanese Government.

Housing (Kent)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many housing schemes he has approved in the past three months in respect of each Kent district; how many he has rejected; how

KENT
Approved in past 3 monthsUnder consideration
Local AuthorityNumber of SchemesNumber of DwellingsNumber of SchemesNumber of Dwellings
Ashford0012739
Cantetbury0010471
Dartford009233
Dover0018680
Gillingham1336*97
Gravesham006280
Maidstone0012552
Medway0021572
Sevenoaks008727
Shepway11415718
Swale0014768
Thanet006162
Tonbridge & Mailing13211689
Tunbridge Wells13818732
* In addition, three schemes are proposed in Gillingham for which the number of dwellings is yet to be determined.

Water Storage

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when the report on the study of storage of water in The Wash will be published.

Tokyo; and what is his latest assessment of the cost/percentage increase of importing the extra crude oil which would be necessary if the lead content was reduced to 0·15g/litre.

The information is as follows:many are still under consideration; and how many houses are involved in each case.

Particulars for individual authorities are given in the following table. No schemes have been rejected:today. The study has established that construction of storage reservoirs on the foreshore of the Wash is a practicable proposition, though it is estimated that water from a reservoir there would cost at least 50 per cent. more than water from comparable inland reservoirs in South-East England. The report concludes that, on present estimates of demand and tak- ing account of other possible ways of augmenting supplies, a storage scheme in the Wash is unlikely to be required this century. It will be for the Anglian Water Authority to take into account the outcome of the study in preparing its long-term plans.

Windows And Glass Doors (Accidents)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will collect statistics of injuries suffered by the users of local authority-owned buildings caused by the breaking of glass windows or doors.

I have no plans to do so.Research into accidents in and around buildings, including accidents caused by breaking of glass windows and doors, is currently being undertaken by the Building Research Establishment.I understand that the Health and Safety Executive has arrangements for obtaining over a limited period particulars of some reportable accidents involving injury from collision with glass doors, windows and partitions at premises subject to the Factories Act 1961 and the Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act 1963.

Welsh Office Building (Cardiff)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the total cost of the new Welsh Office administrative building being constructed in Cardiff.

The total estimated cost of the new building being erected in Cathays Park is £18·620 million. It will house staff of the Export Credits Guarantee Department, dispersed from London, as well as the Welsh Office.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total cost of installing bomb-proof windows on the Welsh Office administrative building being constructed in Cardiff; and why they are being installed.

Anti-shatter film and protective curtains are being provided in this building at an estimated cost of £26,500 to reduce possible injury from flying glass.

Esher

Q2.

asked the Prime Minister if he is planning to make an official visit to Esher.

Q5.

Q8.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister when he next proposes to pay an official visit to Esher.

Q29.

President Of France

Q3.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on the purpose of his forthcoming meeting with the President of France.

This will be the first of the annual meetings on which the President and I agreed during his State Visit to Britain in June this year. We shall discuss relations between our two countries and problems of common interest.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister why he is being accompanied by the Chancellor of the Exchequer during his visit to President Giscard d'Estaing in Paris next month.

I agreed with President Giscard during his State Visit in June that we would meet annually, accompanied by members of our Governments, to discuss relations between our two countries and problems of common interest. Economic questions can be expected to form an important part of our discussions on this occasion and the Chancellor of the Exchequer will, therefore, accompany me.

Coal Miners

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if he will make a statement on his recent meeting with the NUM leaders; and what further meetings have been arranged.

The National Union of Mineworkers informed me of its proposals for the early retirement of miners and I suggested that they should start discussions with the National Coal Board. The NUM and the NCB have now set up a joint study group, which has started work. I have no plans at present for any further meetings with the NUM.

Commonwealth Secretary-General

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister when he next intends to meet the Secretary-General of the Commonwealth.

Tuc And Cbi

Q10.

Q12.

Q20.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister when he next expects to meet the TUC and the CBI.

Q27.

I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Conway (Mr. Roberts) on 12th October.

Washington, United States Of America

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if he has any plans to visit Washington, United States of America.

Engineering, Science And Technology

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the co-ordination between the Secretaries of State for Education and Science and Industry relating to the recruitment and training of engineers and technologists, in view of industry's needs and the present vacancies on engineering and technology courses in higher education.

My right hon. Friends have emphasised the importance they attach to meeting the needs of industry for engineers, and are working closely together on this matter.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if he will publish in the Official Report the statistical data upon which he came to the conclusion in his Oxford speech of 18th October that there were currently 30,000 vacancies for students in science and engineering in universities and polytechnics.

As the text of my speech made clear, I was not referring to the current year. The estimate for the present academic year, 1976–77, is 27,000 empty places in science and technology, excluding medicine. The basis of this estimate is the physical capacity of academic departments in universities in Great Britain and polytechnics in England and Wales.

National Economic Development Council

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister when he next expects to take the chair at a meeting of the NEDC.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Ilford, South (Mr. Shaw) on 21st October.

Chancellor Of The Exchequer

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will dismiss the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Cathcart (Mr. Taylor) on 19th October.

German Democratic Republic

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if he has any plans to visit the German Democratic Republic.

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 28th October.

Q25.

This morning I presided at a meeting of the Cabinet. In addition to my duties in this House and meetings with ministerial colleagues and others, I shall be meeting Mr. Boris Ponomarev, Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

Newcastle Upon Tyne

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister when he next plans to visit Newcastle upon Tyne.

Greece

Q30.

I have an outstanding invitation to visit Greece, and I look forward to taking this up at an appropriate opportunity.

House Of Commons

Catering Costs

asked the Lord President of the Council what was the cost of the interest paid on the Catering Sub-Committee's overdraft during the years ended 31st March 1974, 1975 and 1976; what steps he is taking to eliminate the catering overdraft; and what interest rate was charged on the catering overdraft in 1974, 1975 and 1976 and by whom.

The cost of interest on the overdraft, which is with Drummonds Branch of the Royal Bank of Scotland, in the years ending 31st March 1974, 1975 and 1976 was £9,113, £23,364 and £44,191 respectively. The Catering Sub-Committee do not think it would be appropriate for the rate of interest to be disclosed.The Report of the Committee chaired by my hon. Friend the Member for Bethnal Green and Bow (Mr. Mikardo) suggested a number of ways in which the financial position of the Refreshment Department might be improved, and these are being considered.

Scotland

Psychiatric Patients

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the numbers of persons in Scotland who were readmitted to psychiatric hospitals in 1975, specifying those persons readmitted for a second, third and fourth time and over.

In 1974, the latest year for which statistics are available, there were 14,239 readmissions to psychiatric hospitals in Scotland out of a total of 25,271 of all admissions. Statistics of second, third, and fourth readmissions are not available for Scotland as a whole.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will list the number of persons readmitted to Bellsdyke Hospital, Larbert, in 1975, giving the numbers of patients readmitted for a second, third and fourth time and over;(2) what estimate he makes of the number of persons readmitted to Bells-dyke Hospital, Larbert, in 1975 who could have settled back into their own communities if there had been enough support and aftercare available.

The hospital records show that in 1975 there were 942 admissions to Bellsdyke Hospital, of which 119 were second admissions, 25 third admissions and four fourth admissions. Without disproportionate cost in professional consideration of the details of individual cases, no estimate can be made of how many readmissions could have been avoided if enough support and aftercare had been available.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he makes of the number of persons readmitted to psychiatric hospitals in Scotland in 1975 who could have settled back into their own communities if there had been enough support and after-care available.

No official estimate can be given but it is generally agreeed by psychiatrists that a number of patients currently in psychiatric hospitals could be discharged if a greater amount of suitable community support were available.

Psychiatric Hospitals

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table in the Official Report showing the total population for each health board area and the number of places in psychiatric hospitals for each area.

The information is set out in the table below:

Health BoardPopulation (000's)*Beds in Psychiatric Hospitals
Argyll and Clyde4591,132
Ayrshire and Arran374653
Borders99345
Dumfries and Galloway1441,009
Fife336772
Forth Valley2691,078
Grampian4491,771
Greater Glasgow1,1063,836
Highland182982
Lanarkshire5651,802
Lothian7542,455
Orkney18
Shetland18
Tayside4021,885
Western Isles30
Scotland5,20617,720
* Estimated home population at 30th June 1975.
† Average available staffed beds in mental illness hospitals in half-year ended 30th September 1975.

Land Ownership

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report the acreage owned by him, by the Forestry Commission, by the Highlands and Islands Development Board, the Nature Conservancy Council, or other public agency, in the counties of

Secretary of State acresForestry Commission* acresNature Conservancy CouncilHighlands and Islands Development Board
Aberdeenshire2,93061,000
Banffshire44,000
Kincardineshire4,46725,000
* Approximate figures. Statistics are maintained for individual forests, not counties. All land acquired by the Commission in Scotland is owned by the Secretary of State.
Information on land owned by other public agencies is not held centrally but may be obtained direct from these agencies.

Offshore Installations (Law And Order)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether the Chief Constable of Aberdeen is still responsible for law and order on oil rigs and other offshore installations; and what vessels are available to him to exercise these duties.

The police responsibility in relation to offshore installations is to respond to situations which require a police presence. Grampian police have this responsibility in relation to installations operating from Aberdeen. The Grampian Police Authority does not own any vessels, but arrangements have been made for police officers to go to the rigs in any circumstances where they need to.

Lochs (Access And Ownership)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give the necessary directive that in all future purchases by the Forestry Commission it will also seek to acquire lochs which lie adjacent to the land which it is seeking to buy.

No, but the Forestry Commission will continue its practice of acquiring any water rights that might be available with land that it is purchasing, where there is a potential recreational benefit and the price is reasonable.

Aberdeenshire, Banffshire and Kincardine-shire, respectively.

The acreage of land held by my right hon. Friend for health service and road development purposes is not readily available. The remainder of the information is as follows:

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will undertake a survey of the number of privately-owned lochs adjacent to Forestry Commission land, with a view to discussing with owners the possibility of granting limited access to the public to the amenities presented by these lochs.

No, but the Forestry Commission is always prepared to negotiate with other riparian owners for increased public access to lochs adjacent to land owned by the Commission where the demand and the cost is in keeping with the local plans for recreational development.

Education Department (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the latest figures for the number of people employed in educational administration by the Scottish Education Department.

The staff in post in the Scottish Education Department, excluding the staff of the Social Work Services Group and the Royal Scottish Museum, at 1st October 1976 was 545.

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the latest available figures for the number of teachers employed in education authority schools in Scotland (a) in teaching posts and (b) in non-teaching posts.

At the time of the annual school census in September 1975 the equivalent of 55,855 full-time teachers were employed in education authority schools. 958 of the teachers employed in primary and secondary schools for the whole of the census week had no class teaching duties during that week. Information is not readily available about the corresponding number in nursery and special schools.

Local Government (Education Staffs)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people were employed by local government in administering and servicing education at mid-year 1974–75 and 1975–76.

Staffing returns for 1974–75 were not provided by all the former education authorities. At the start of 1976 monitoring arrangements for local government staff numbers were introduced by way of the Joint Watch on Manpower, from which the following figures have been obtained:

FulltimePart-timeTotal
March 1976 (last quarter of 1975–76)30,48134,12864,609
June 1976 (first quarter of 1976–77).29,95133,58863,539
These figures include administrative and clerical staff in the authorities' education departments, school caretakers, cleaners and canteen staff, non-teaching staff employed on careers guidance and library staff employed by libraries either located in or servicing educational establishments.

Civil Service

Civil Servants (Redundancies)

asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many civil servants are likely to be made redundant as a result of public expenditure cuts already decided by the Government.

I cannot yet give a figure, but we expect that the numbers will be small. By adjusting recruitment and other measures we hope to transfer as many surplus staff as possible to posts which become vacant—e.g., as a result of natural wastage. But some redundancy will be unavoidable, particularly in localities where there is no other Civil Service work or amongst surplus staff whose work is so specialised that they cannot readily switch to other jobs.

Home Department

Mr J J Dundon

28.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many of the 14 occasions on which the deportee Mr. J. J. Dundon re-entered the United Kingdom illegally he did so by entering Northern Ireland.

We have no evidence to suggest that on any of these occasions he entered by way of Northern Ireland.

Model Aircraft Flying (Byelaws)

29.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to confirm the byelaws relating to model aircraft flying re-submitted to him by the London borough of Bromley on 14th September.

In view of the large number of representations I have received both for and against these byelaws I have decided to order a public local inquiry to be held.

Street Trading

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many unlicensed street traders were prosecuted within the Metropolitan Police area during the first nine months of 1976 compared with the same period of 1975; and if he is satisfied that the existing police powers are sufficient to deal with the problem of illicit street trading in the capital.

I regret that this information is not available.In those parts of the Metropolitan Police District where street traders are licensed, the responsibility in general for prosecuting unlicensed traders rests with the local authority. The police prosecute only in cases where the trader is alleged to be obstructing the highway; they do not keep separate statistics of such prosecutions. The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis is satisfied that where there is a licensing system his officers

have adequate powers to deal with unlicensed traders.

Homosexual Conduct

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report the figures in each of the past five years of (a) prosecutions of men aged over 21 years for homosexual conduct in private with a consenting partner aged over 16 years but under 21 years, (b) prosecutions against the younger partner in such cases and (c) convictions in such cases.

Information in the form requested is not available. Information in the table below relates to males aged 21 and over tried for offences of buggery

MALES TRIED AT THE CROWN COURT FOR OFFENCES OF CONSENTING HOMOSEXUAL CONDUCT, AND THOSE FOUND GUILTY—ENGLAND AND WALES
Number of person
19711973
OffenceFor trialFound guiltyFor trialFound guilty
Buggery by a man of the age of 21 or over with another male person under the age of 21, but aged 16 years or more, with consent.11111414
Attempted buggery by a man of the age of 21 or over with another male person under the age of 21, but aged 16 years or more, with consent.2277

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report the figures in each of the past five years of (a) prosecutions of men aged over 16 years but under 21 years for homosexual conduct in private with a consenting partner of the same age range, (b) prosecutions in such cases of the other person and (c) convictions in such cases.

Information in the form requested is not available. The following table relates to males aged 17 and under 21 tried for offences of buggery; it covers such acts with or without consent, and with partners of all ages.

MALES AGED 17 AND UNDER 21 TRIED AT THE CROWN COURT FOR OFFENCES OF BUGGERY—NUMBER OF PERSONS
YearTotal number for trialTotal found guilty
19711919
19721111
19731615
19742120
19751818

in 1971–75; the offences include acts with or without consent and with partners of all ages:

MALES AGED 21 AND OVER TRIED AT THE CROWN COURT FOR OFFENCES OF BUGGERY

Year

Total for trial

Total found guilty

1971154140
1972161156
1973153141
1974175166
1975211194

For the years 1971 and 1973 only, the following information is available for males aged 21 or over who were tried for a homosexual offence involving a consenting partner aged over 16 but under 21:

Discharged Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were released from prison after serving sentences in (a) 1973, (b) 1974 and (c) 1975.

The figures are as follows:

Discharges of sentenced prisoners
197340,011
197440,467
197544,918

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his estimate of the proportion of prisoners who have no family home to return to on discharge.

It is regretted that the available information is too limited and varied for a reliable estimate to be given.

Prisoners (Working Week)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the average working week of a convicted prisoner in prison in England and Wales.

Information in the form which my hon. Friend requests is not available, but the estimated average of workshop hours, covering all categories of inmate and based on daily manning levels, is at present about 22 hours a week.

Immigrants (Repatriation)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what is the average interval of time between an immigrant's applying for a grant to return to his country of origin and the granting of such application;(2) how many applications for grants to assist in the repatriation of immigrants were outstanding at the most recent convenient date;(3) how many applications for grants to assist in the repatriation of immigrants have been made in each of the last five years; and how many were refused;(4) what are the figures for each of the last five years of the numbers of immigrants given grants to assist them in returning to their country of origin, indicating in each case which these are.

Applications for assistance and the numbers of individuals assisted under Section 29 of the Immigration Act 1971 were as follows:

Financial yearApplications madeIndividuals assisted
1971–72Not availableNil
1972–73301115
1973–74238240
1974–75171156
1975–76181219
April-September 1976
19768659
The average length of time between the initiation of an application and its approval in the last financial year was two and a half months. 151 applications were outstanding on 30th September 1976.I regret that it is not possible without disproportionate expense to say how many applications in the last five years were refused, were withdrawn or, where assistance was given, to which country a person proceeded and whether it was that person's country of origin, but some information on destination was given in answer to a Question by the hon. Member for Louth (Mr. Brotherton) on 16th February.—[Vol. 905, c.

522.]

Young Persons (Crimes Of Violence)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will review the sentences available for children and young persons in cases of rape and serious violence against the person.

Cases of rape and serious violence against the person by juveniles fall within the special provisions of Section 53(2) of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933, as amended by the Criminal Justice Act 1961. This provides that where a person under 17 is convicted on indictment of an offence for which an adult may be sentenced to imprisonment for 14 years or more, the court may, if it is of the opinion that none of the other methods by which the case may legally be dealt with is suitable, sentence the child or young person to be detained in such place and under such conditions as the Secretary of State may direct for a specified term not exceeding the maximum term of imprisonment with which the offence is punishable in the case of an adult.A person under the age of 18 who is convicted of murder may not be sentenced to imprisonment for life, but under Section 53(1) of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933, as amended by the Murder (Abolition of Death Penalty) Act 1965, the court is required to sentence such a person to be detained during Her Majesty's pleasure; if so sentenced, he shall be liable to be detained in such place and under such conditions as the Secretary of State may direct. I am satisfied that these provisions are adequate.

Offshore Installations (Law And Order)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department who is responsible for dealing with civil or industrial unrest in offshore installations, or providing assistance if required on board ships within an exclusive economic zone of 200 miles; and what vessels are available for this purpose.

The police force responsible for the port from which a particular offshore installation operates will respond to incidents aboard that installation requiring police attention. Criminal offences and breaches of discipline which occur on board a United Kingdom ship in or outside territorial waters are subject to United Kingdom law, and the police may provide assistance if requested by the ship's master. The proposed 200-mile exclusive economic zone is unlikely to affect the powers of the police in these matters. To respond to incidents the police may hire vessels or make use of transport facilities provided by operating companies or the Ministry of Defence.

Republic Of Ireland Citizens (Deportation)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the measures taken on the position between Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic, or otherwise in Northern Ireland, to prevent or detect the entry of persons previously deported from the United Kingdom.

While citizens of the Republic of Ireland who return to any part of the United Kingdom in breach of a deportation order are removed when detected, we do not consider that costly preventive measures would be justified.

Special Constabulary

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the increase in muggings and other forms of violence, he will initiate a recruitment campaign to increase the number of special constables, particularly in the towns and cities.

Chief officers are already encouraged to recruit as many special constables as they can usefully train and deploy, although their use will not necessarily be appropriate in situations involving a risk of violence. Local recruitment campaigns are supported by advertisements in the national Press, a series of which is planned to appear next month.

Passports (Transkei)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the passports issued by the Government of the Transkei will be recognised for purposes of entry into the United Kingdom.

As my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs announced on 28th September, the Government have decided not to recognise the Transkei as an independent State. Transkei passports are, in consequence, not acceptable for the purposes of the Immigration Act 1971.

Trade

Fishing Vessels (Survey)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade why the charges for the survey of inshore fishing vessels made by his Department are about four times the cost of the same survey, if it was made by a professional surveyor in private practice; and if he will use the cheaper services available.

Fees charged for departmental surveys of inshore fishing vessels have been calculated so as to recover as precisely as possible the cost to the Government of providing the service. I have no evidence to support the assumption that for identical surveys by similarly qualified professional surveyors in private practice the cost to owners would be cheaper. In any event I would not be prepared to delegate responsibility for statutory safety surveys to private practitioners.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if the inshore fishing boat survey regulations applying to vessels operating in the Sussex Sea Fisheries District are the same as those applying to similar boats working in the Thames Estuary.

The survey requirements of the Fishing Vessels (Safety Provisions) Rules 1975 (S.I. No. 330/1975) apply to every mechanically-propelled seagoing fishing vessel of 12 metres in length and over registered in the United Kingdom. "Seagoing" means proceeding outside the limits of smooth water or partially smooth water areas and those vessels operating in the Thames Estuary which do not proceed outside these limits are not subject to the survey requirements. Smooth or partially smooth water areas along the Sussex coast are very restricted, but the same considerations apply.

Exports

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what has been the decline in the United Kingdom's share of the EFTA and £ sterling area markets for manufacturers since joining the EEC.

Following is the information:United Kingdom percentage share of EFTA imports of manufactures for the year prior to joining the EEC and the three years since accession:

197211·6
197310·5
197410·0
19759·6
Source: OECD Statistics of Foreign Trade "Series B".United Kingdom percentage share of total imports of the sterling area for similar periods.
MAIN MANUFACTURING COUNTRIES EXPORTS OF MANUFACTURES (SITC SECTIONS 5–8)
Seasonally adjusted
19751976
2nd quarter3rd quarter4th quarter1st quarter2nd quarter3rd quarter
Value—United Kingdom share percentage9·29·09·59·4**
Volume indices (1970=100) United Kingdom128·6126·6133·4137·2143·2139·4
Main manufacturing countries138·6141·2145·9149·0**
Relative volume (United Kingdom divided by main manufacturing countries).92·889·791·492·1
* Not available.

Source:

United Kingdom Department of Industry.

Main manufactirng countries based on figures published by the OECD and UN.

Engineering (Export Credits)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will publish in the Official Report figures showing the value of export credit guarantees taken up by the power engineering industry during each of the last three years for which this information is available.

The Export Credits Guarantee Department's statistics are not kept on a basis that would enable this sector, as such, to be identified, and thus I regret that this information is not available.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what representations he has received from the power engineering industry about the availability of export credit facilities; and if he will make a statement.

Recent statistics of imports of manufactures by direction are not available for the majority of countries in the area. The coverage of total imports represents 99·7 per cent. of the countries in the sterling area. The figures for 1973 and 1974 are distorted by the increased value of oil imports, which it is not possible to exclude.

197217·8
197315·3
197412·4
197513·9

Source: IMF Direction of Trade.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the United Kingdom's share of world trade by price and volume, respectively, in each of the last four quarters for which figures are available.

The Government are aware of the situation of the power plant industry and various representations have been made. These are being studied Individual firms belonging to the power engineering industry make regular use of the facilities of the Export Credits Guarantee Department and are in regular touch with the Department about their needs.

British Overseas Trade Board

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) how many paying subscribers have used the British Overseas Trade Board export intelligence service during the years 1974, 1975 and 1976 to the latest available date;(2) how many outward trade missions were conducted by the British Overseas Trade Board during the years 1974, 1975 and 1976 to the latest available date;

(3) how many overseas exhibitions were supported by the British Overseas Trade Board during the years 1974, 1975 and 1976 to the latest available date;

(4) how many inquiries and requests for assistance the British Overseas Trade Board received in 1974, 1975 and 1976 to the latest available date;

(5) how many overseas visitors and buyers of capital and consumer goods visited Great Britain under the British Overseas Trade Board's Inward Mission Scheme during the years 1973, 1974, 1975 and 1976 to the latest available date;

(6) how many projects under the Export Marketing Research Scheme have been approved; and what was the expenditure involved, respectively, for the years 1973–74, 1974–75, 1975–76 and 1976–77 to the latest available date.

The figures requested are as follows:

Paying Subscribers to the Export Intelligence Service
30th September 19745,713
30th September 19756,826
30th September 19767,533
Outward Trade Missions
1974179
1975222
1976 (Estimate)250
Overseas Exhibitions Supported
1974312
1975335
1976 (Estimate)344

Note: At some exhibitions more than one group of firms may be supported.

Inward Missions on Capital and Consumer Goods

Capital Goods

Consumer Goods

Total

1973386184570
197430097397
1975348204552
1976 (January September).261131392

Export Marketing Research

Projects Approved

Expenditure Approved

£
1973–74196290,000
1974–75160184,000
1975–76249302,000
1976–77 (April-September).189226,000

Inquiries and Requests for Assistance

There is a large volume of inquiries and requests for assistance by 'phone, letter and by personal visit. Statistics of these are not kept because the heavy staff costs involved would be totally disproportionate to the value of such figures.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a further statement of his policy on the reduction of the direct expenditure of the BOTB by about £700,000 over the next 18 months, in the light of the BOTB's aim of assisting exporters so that British industry may be better placed to take full advantage of the expected upturn in world trade when it comes.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply of 18th October—[Vol. 917, c. 354–5.]

Air Transport

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will report on the progress of the consideration by the European Commission of the implications of the ruling of the Court of Justice in case 167/74 which laid down that the general rules of the Treaty of Rome applied to air transport.

I think the hon. Member is referring to case 167/73. The Commission has held a number of meetings with member States to consider the implications of this ruling. These discussions will continue when we have further proposals from the Commission.

Marine Health And Safety Regulations

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) what new vessels will be required to enforce marine safety regulations, routing and traffic separation schemes, special channels for ships carrying hazardous cargoes and safety zones around offshore installations within a 200 mile exclusive economic zone (EEZ);(2) what new types of vessels will be required to enforce marine pollution and sanitation regulations and dumping procedures, within a 200 mile exclusive economic zone.

Identification of vessels contravening the requirements of traffic separation scheme in the Dover Strait is undertaken by aircraft and naval vessels and the adequacy of these arrangements is kept under review. Any prosecutions are undertaken by the flag State. More generally, any machinery for enforcement in an exclusive economic zone would need to be considered in the light of the outcome of the United Nations Law of the Sea Conference.

Pilotage

asked the Secretary of State for Trade who has been consulted regarding the effects of changes in marine pilotage in Scotland; and when he hopes to make a statement on the Government's intentions.

Consultations on the effects of changes in marine pilotage in Scotland have recently been held with all the main pilotage authorities in Scotland, the United Kingdom Pilots Association, the marine pilotage branch of the Transport and General Workers Union, the General Council of British Shipping, the Scottish Guild of Pilots and the Scottish Office. Discussions with these organisations on how Scottish interests should be represented on the proposed Central Pilotage Board are continuing and a statement will be made when definite proposals have been agreed.

Exports (Promotion)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what new steps the Government has taken in 1976 to help present and potential exporters to increase their exports with the falling value of the pound.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 27th October 1976; Vol. 918, c. 245.], gave the following information:The Government's proven export promotion schemes and services have been in great demand in 1976 by both present and potential exporters. Given the several new schemes introduced towards the end of 1975, the emphasis has been on trying to secure full and effective use of the help already available. This is one of the themes of both the British Overseas Trade Board's Export Dynamics Conferences and Export Year. Nevertheless, on 4th August I did announce that the Export Credits Guarantee Department would offer additional facilities for exporters contracting for payment in foreign currencies. This new facility is of course relevant to the sense of my hon. Friend's Question.

Northern Ireland

Police (Pay)

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the progress of pay negotiations with the Royal Ulster Constabulary.

The Police Federation for Northern Ireland continues not to recognise the Police Council. I refer the hon. Member to the replies which my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr. Rooker) on 11th October; and to the hon. Member for Ravensbourne (Mr. Hunt) on 14th October.—[Vol. 917, c. 41–2; c. 153.]

Mentally Handicapped Persons

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the after-care facilities available for the mentally sick and mentally handicapped in Northern Ireland; and how this compares with the rest of the United Kingdom.

A wide range of after-care facilities is provided by the Health and Social Services Boards and voluntary organisations. These facilities and services, in general, compare well with those provided in Great Britain. They are extended and improved continuously as additional human and financial resources become available.

Terrorists (Social Security Benefits)

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will take steps to end the payment of social security funds to support IRA terrorists, temporarily released over Christmas and other holidays.

Prisoners on parole from prisons in Northern Ireland are not entitled to social security payments.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what estimate he has made of the cost to social security funds of payments to wives or other members of the families of IRA terrorists during the coming Christmas period to meet increased family expenses because of the temporary release of such IRA terrorists.

The Northern Ireland Office grants short periods of parole at Christmas to selected prisoners of good behaviour who are nearing the end of their sentences. This applies to all categories of prisoners. Those prisoners who claim affiliation to the Provisional IRA very rarely choose to take Christmas or summer parole. Therefore, if the scheme is continued on the same basis as last year, the cost of increasing supplementary benefit awards to Provisional IRA prisoners' families would represent a minute fraction of the total estimated cost of £250.

Schools (Consultations)

20. Sir Nigel Fisher asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he proposes to convene a conference on the subject of shared schools in Northern Ireland, as his predecessor undertook to do; and, if so, when.

We intend to continue with the consultations which have been initiated on this subject. We do not intend to make any decision on the holding of a conference until we have had the opportunity of informing ourselves of the views of the wide range of interests involved.

Quigley Report

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he intends to implement the recommendations of the Quigley Report.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I have given today to a Question from the hon. Member for Antrim South (Mr. Molyneaux).

Firemen's Dispute

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is his estimate of the cost to the taxpayer of terrorist damage to property in Northern Ireland that might have been avoided or ameliorated but for the trade dispute between the firemen and their employers; and what is his estimate of the cost in the terms of jobs lost or at risk by reason of the said damage to property.

According to my latest information no jobs will be lost or at risk as a result of the industrial action which the firemen have been taking. I am not able to estimate how much higher compensation payments will have to be; but I can say that the money would have been better spent elsewhere.

Terrorist Intrusion (Member Of Parliament's Home)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the outcome of the inquiry into the alleged delay of the police answering the numerous calls to the house of the hon. Member for Belfast, West (Mr. Fitt) on 9th August 1976.

Neither my predecessor nor I considered that there was any need for a formal enquiry. I am satisfied that the police and the Army reacted promptly and did everything they could to protect the household of the hon. Member for Belfast, West (Mr. Fitt).

Social Security Beneficiaries

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) how many families in the Belfast area are in receipt of social security benefits totalling over £20, £30, £40, £50, £60, £70, £80, £90 and £100 per week, respectively, and also in the areas of Armagh, Bangor, Ballymena, Craigavon, Coleraine, Dungannon, Down-patrick, Lisburn, Lame, Enniskillen, Londonderry, Newry, Newcastle, Omagh and Strabane, respectively;(2) how many families in Northern Ireland are in receipt of social security benefits totalling over £20, £30, £40, £50, £60, £70, £80, £90 and £100 per week, respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many families in Belfast are in receipt of social security benefits totalling over £20, £30, £40, £50, £60, £70, £80, £90 and £100 per week, respectively.

The information is not readily available and could only be obtained with a disproportionate use of resources.

Housing

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if, having regard to the housing conditions in east Belfast, he will take steps to expedite the redevelopment of Area 23.

A vesting order for Area 23 came into effect on 23rd September 1976. The timing and phasing of redevelopment is currently under discussion, but the Housing Executive has been asked to give priority to improving the living conditions of the families left in the area.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the total number of houses and/or housing units in Londonderry city in 1970 and in Londonderry rural district at the same time; and what is the total at present.

Owing to the reorganisation of local authority boundaries in 1973 it is not possible to provide information in the form requested. However, the 1971 Census of Population records that

October 1970June 1970October 1976June 1975
Persons registered as unemployed in the area served by the Londonderry Employment Service Office.3,1645,178
Employed25,58927,888
Self-Employed*2,197
* Estimates of the number self-employed are no longer available except from the census of population gures. The most recent census was in 1971.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what proposals he has for reducing unemployment in the Province and for regenerating the Northern Ireland economy.

There are already in existence several schemes to alleviate unemployment in Northern Ireland. I shall shortly be making an announcement about the application in Northern Ireland of the further measures to reduce unemployment among young people, announced by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment on 23rd September.Within the framework of the Government's overall economic strategy for the United Kinugdom. I am considering ways of bringing about a sustained improvement in Northern Ireland's economic performance. In doing so, I shall bear in mind proposals made in the report of the Review Team on Economic and Indus-

there were 12,049 dwellings in the then Londonderry County Borough Council area and 31,880 dwellings in the Londonderry County Council area. It is estimated that at present there are approximately 22,000 dwellings in the Londonderry District Council area of which 12,000 are in urban areas and 10,000 in rural areas.

Employment

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons were unemployed in Londonderry city in October 1970; how many were (a) employed and (b) self-employed in October 1970; and what are the same numbers in October 1976.

Owing to the system of collection of employment data it is not possible to give the precise information requested. The following information is available:trial Strategy for Northern Ireland, published on 15th October 1976.

Crime

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons have been convicted of crimes of violence in Northern Ireland up to the present date in the current year.

During the period 1st January to 30th September 1976, 639 persons were convicted on indictment of offences specified in Part I of Schedule 4 to the Northern Ireland (Emergency Provisions) Act 1973, as amended. The majority of such offences involved or were associated with violence.

Bomb Incidents (Londonderry)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many bombs have exploded inside the security barriers in Londonderry in each of the months of this year; how many in the same months last year; and how many elsewhere in the city in the same periods.

The information requested up to 30th September 1976, the latest date for which figures are available, is as follows:

EXPLOSIONS IN LONDONDERRY CITY (INCLUDING GRENADES. MORTARS AND INCENDIARIES).
Within Secure Area/Outside Secure Area
1975197619751976
January4
February14
March8
April32
May28
June13
July2317
August2
September347

Transport

Road Signs

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many 30 mph road signs there are in the United Kingdom which have to be altered to meet the Common Market decree that the number three must have a rounded top notice instead of flat top; and what is the estimated expenditure involved.

My right hon. Friend proposes to rescind the requirement to change existing signs by a specified date. This requirement derives from regulations made in 1967 and not from any directive of the European Community.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will rescind regulations relating to road signs, and in particular speed limits, where existing signs are adequate, even if not up to the revised standard.

Billesdon, Leicestershire

asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he expects that the construction of the Billesdon, Leicestershire, bypass will be commenced.

Subject to the satisfactory completion of statutory processes and the availability of resources at the relevant time, towards the end of 1983.

Social Services

Hospital Beds (Essex)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consult the Essex Area Health Authority about the increase in the number of unused beds in the year ended 30th June 1976 with a view to ensuring that priority is given in future expenditure plans to reversing this trend in the face of growing waiting lists for hospital places in some specialities.

Bed utilisation is a matter for the area health authority to determine in the light of the money and staff available to it and the operational requirements obtaining at any given time.It is the policy of the North East Thames Regional Health Authority to increase the proportion of its finance which is allocated to Essex and it has recently published for consultation an interim report of its Regional Resource Allocation Working Party, which contains proposals to that end. I understand that the Regional Strategic Plan, now being prepared, contains proposals for improving services in Essex.

Hospital Services (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if plans to redistribute the sum available for expenditure on the hospital services in the various regions will be modified in view of the restrictions in public spending; and if he will make a statement.

The Government intends to maintain the policy of eliminating as soon as practicable the inequalities in the level of financial resources between regions, and between areas and districts within regions, but the rate of progress will be affected by the resources available for hospital and community health services each year.

Accidents (Glass)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will collect statistics of hospital treatment for injuries caused in accidents involving glass over the past five years.

Departmental Staffs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to ensure a fair balance of staffing between and inside social security offices; and what industrial action is occurring relating to this cause.

Every effort is made to ensure that our local offices are adequately staffed to meet the demands made upon them. Total staffing requirements are calculated annually on the basis of forecast workloads and are reviewed quarterly when adjustments are made if the actual outturn of work varies significantly from the forecast level. Separate calculations are made for contributory benefits and for supplementary benefits work and the total complements for each are distributed to Scotland, Wales and the English regions in proportion to their shares of the total workloads. While the regions also distribute their allocations to local offices largely on the basis of workload shares, they additionally have regard to differing local circumstances and exercise their judgment accordingly. Within integrated local offices, which cover both both contributory and supplementary benefits work, the total combined complement can be deployed to meet pressures arising on cither side. Discussions with Staff Side representatives, at various levels, take place at each stage of the complementing process. A system of staff inspection operates as

PATIENTS ON IN-PATIENTS WAITING LISTS
Basildon/ Thurrock DistrictChelmsford DistrictColchester DistrictHarlow DistrictSouthend District
Geriatrics
September 19745824795480
September 19753936972573
March 19762225843814
Psycho-Geriatrics
September 1974NANANANANA
September 1975NANANANANA
March 1976NilNilNilNil26
Young Chronic Sick
September 197411881NilNil
September 1975385NilNil
March 1976Nil99NilNil
Mentally Handicapped
September 197421931NilNilNil
September 19751851047NilNil
March 19761301077NilNil
NA = Not available.

a check on the efficiency of the distributive complementing process.

Industrial action by a member of the Civil and Public Services Association has had the effect of delaying the normal work of some local offices.

Discussions are continuing in an effort to find a satisfactory solution.

Holloway Sanatorium, Virginia Water

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the future of Holloway Sanatorium, Virginia Water; and if there are any plans to close this institution.

The responsible health authorities have no immediate plans to close this hospital. Consideration is, however, being given to the longer-term future pattern of psychiatric services throughout Surrey consequent upon the planned rationalisation of catchment areas and the forthcoming availability of additional facilities.

Hospital Waiting Lists (Essex)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide figures to show changes in the length of waiting lists for those requiring geriatric, psycho-geriatric, young chronic sick and mentally handicapped beds, respectively, within the Essex Area Health Authority over the last three years.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish figures showing changes in the length of waiting lists for surgical operations listed in separate categories within

PATIENTS ON IN-PATIENT WAITING LISTS
Basildon/ Thurrock DistrictChelmsford DistrictColchester DistrictHarlow DistrictSouthend District
Surgical
September 1974764755691339553
September 19751,4451,089895726315
March 1976706802623471325
Ear, nose and throat
September 19743512724561,040615
September 1975341317677724548
March 1976231252551624513
Trauma and orthopaedic
September 1974275120296251385
September 1975678118382384348
March 197629478341306278
Plastic surgery
September 1974NANANANANA
September 19751,025Nil16NilNil
March 1976907Nil8NilNil
Thoracic surgery
September 1974NANANANANA
September 1975Nil1NilNilNil
March 1976NilNilNilNilNil
Dental surgery
September 19747131788311221
September 197518021390475140
March 19768329742348118
Gynaecology
September 197417025457351466
September 197550652845890406
March 197630243531239377
Neuro-surgery is not available in Essex.
NA = not available.

Fraudulent Claims

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many claimants were investigated and how many allowances were withdrawn or reduced in 1975; what were the types of offence involved; and if he will express this as

Type of offenceNumber investigatedAllowances withdrawn or reduced
Undisclosed income—earnings of claimant or dependant as employee11,5574,441
Undisclosed income—earnings of claimant or dependant from self-employment4,1861,552
Undisclosed income—other income or capital assets488162
Fictitious desertion1,938861
Undisclosed cohabitation10,1824,064
All other cases of suspected fraud27499
Total28,62511,179*
* 39 per cent.

the Essex Area Health Authority over the course of the last three years.

Figures supplied by the Essex Area Health Authority are given below:in the table of page 52 of the report of the committee on the abuse of social service benefits.

The following table gives the 1975 figures as in the table on page 52 of the Report of the Committee on Abuse of Social Security Benefits (Cmnd. 5228):

Overseas Beneficiaries

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much money was paid in the latest 12 months for which figures are available by persons not permanently resident in the United Kingdom for treatment received by them in United Kingdom hospitals under the NHS; and from how many persons, or on behalf of how many persons, this money was collected.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the normal procedures by which foreigners who have received treatment under the National Health Service are advised of the cost of that treatment; and how payment to the relevant British authorities is then made by those treated.

Persons not normally resident in the United Kingdom who come here specially for treatment and who are not eligible for free National Health Service treatment under reciprocal agreements or EEC regulations must make arrangements for that treatment to be provided privately. Where this is provided in NHS hospitals they are required to give an undertaking to pay the appropriate charges determined under Sections 1 and 2 of the Health Services and Public Health Act 1968. The recovery of charges is a matter for health authorities.

School Leavers

asked the Secretary of of State for Social Services what is the estimated cost of paying unemployed school leavers undergoing part-time education at technical and further education colleges unemployment benefit of £7·70 a week.

Central records are not kept of the number of unemployed school leavers undergoing part-time education, and this information is not therefore available.

1975–76 Expenditure1976–77 Estimated ExpenditurePercentage Increase
£ million£ million
4,791Retirement pensions5,64518
454Unemployment benefit57026
873Sickness and invalidity benefits1,01716½
1,187Supplementary benefit1,55031

Junior Hospital Doctors (Locums)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what evidence he has received that area health authorities are cutting back on the employment of locums to cover for junior hospital doctors absent on holiday since the introduction of the new contracts;(2) what steps his Department proposes to take to prevent the situation whereby junior doctors under the terms of the new contract, may be required to work extra duties to cover for colleagues on holiday without receiving any extra pay.

The recent agreement of the Joint Negotiating Committee for Hospital Medical and Dental Staff provides that junior doctors should be paid at the level of their normal salaries as defined by the normal duty roster—including A and B as well as standard units of medical time—when they themselves are on annual or study leave in return for covering for colleagues on such leave for no additional remuneration. The agreement limits the commitment to extra duties for this purpose to what is reasonable in the circumstances and provides that employment authorities should not include in a contract a requirement to cover for colleagues absent on such leave if it would have been their normal practice to employ a locum for such cover before the introduction of the new contracts. I have received no evidence to suggest that authorities are cutting back on the employment of locums for these purposes.

Benefits

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much he estimates will be paid out in pensions, unemployment and sickness benefit and supplementary benefit, respectively, in the current year; and by what percentage those figures exceed the comparable figures for last year.

Pensioners

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is his estimate of the number of supplementary pensioners who receive a supplementary pension of less than the rent addition;(2) what is his estimate of the number of retirement pensioners who are tenants in rented accommodation who need be no worse off if they no longer applied for supplementary pensions and relied instead on rent and rate rebates and allowances.

It is estimated that in December 1975 there were approximately 200,000 tenants whose supplementary pension was less than the rent addition and that, of these, some three-quarters could have transferred to housing benefits without loss of net income after paying rent. This takes no account, however, of other occasional payments or benefits for which supplementary benefit recipients may be eligible.

asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services how many of the 1·4 million retirement pensioners receiving supplementary pensions, who are tenants in rented accommodation, are council house tenants.

Of the 1·5 million retirement pensioners receiving supplementary pension, 1·2 million are tenants in rented accommodation, of whom 840,000 live in council houses.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of the 1·2 million retirement pensioners receiving supplementary pensions who are tenants in rented accommodation also receive payment from the Supplementary Benefits Commission in respect of rates; and what was the average payment by the Commission in respect of such rates.

Provision for rates is normally included in the supplementary benefit rent addition and averages about £1·70 in these cases.

Child Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will confirm that under the new child benefit Arrangements announced on 23rd september 1976 it is still the Government's intertion to raise by £95 million in 1977–78 the net amount of financial support given to families with childern.

Precise figures of costs cannot yet be given because some of the detailed arrangements consequent on the change in structure have yet to be settled, but the cost would be of the same order of magnitude as under the earlier plans, some £95 million.

Analgesics And Antipyretics (Poisonings)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many cases of accidental poisoning due to adverse effects of analgesics and antipyretics were admitted to hospital for treatment for the last year for which figures are available.

I regret that information is not available in the precise form requested. The estimated number of persons admitted as in-patients to non-psychiatric hospitals in England and Wales suffering from the adverse effects and suspected adverse effects of analgesics and antipyretics in 1973, the latest year for which figures are available, was 22,670. This estimate, which is based on a 1 in 10 sample, does not differentiate between accidental and non-accidental poisonings.

Family Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish the number of low-earning families who are subject to effective marginal rates of taxation beyond 75 per cent.

The number of families theoretically subject to high marginal rates of taxation, based on Family Expenditure Survey data for 1975, will be available shortly.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will compare the weekly tax threshold for a married man with three children aged seven, 11 and 13 years with the supplementary benefit level, including an allowance for rent and rates, and with the FIS entitlement level in January, 1974, 1975, 1976 and 1977;

(2) if he will compare the weekly tax threshold for a married man with one child aged seven years with the supplementary benefit level, including an allowance for rent and rates, and with the FIS entitlement level in January 1974, 1975, 1976 and 1977;

(3) if he will compare the weekly tax threshold for a married man with four children aged seven, 11, 13 and 16 years with the supplementary benefit level, including an allowance for rent and rates,

Family type

Date

Tax threshold

Supplementary benefit level

FIS prescribed amount

Married man plus 1 child (7)January 197418·7517·3521·50
January 197521·2520·9225·00
January 197622·9827·3231·50
January 197726·6331·4539·00
Married man plus 3 children (7,11,13)January 197425·4824·0526·50
January 197529·8328·8231·00
January 197631·5637·5238·50
January 197737·5243·3048·00
Married man plus 4 children (7, 11, 13, 16)January 197429·4228·4529·00
January 197534·6933·9734·00
January 197636·4244·2242·00
January 197743·5451·1052·50

Note: The supplementary benefit shown is the sum of the ordinary scale rates for the family, plus an addition for rent and rates, based on average amounts paid by supplementary benefit families at the appropriate dates, as follows:

1974—£3·25; 1975—£4·37; 1976—£5·82; 1977—£6·45 (estimated).

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will compare the value of child support, excluding tax allowances, for a family with three children aged 13, 11 and nine years; (a) when at work, (b) when on short-term national insurance benefit and (c) when on supplementary benefit, using the new rates of benefit operative from November.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 25th October 1975; Vol. 918, c. 63.], circulated the following information:Because some of the benefits involved vary according to the family's circumstances, including income, it is not possible to give a single amount which is representative of all families included in each category, nor is it valid in practice to ignore the continuing benefit received from child tax allowances by most working families.The figures below represent the maximum amounts of support for low income families in the three categories. In each and with the FIS entitlement level in January 1974, 1975, 1976 and 1977.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 25th October 1976; Vol. 819, c. 62–3], circulated the following information:The table below shows the weekly tax threshold, supplementary benefit level and FIS qualifying level in January 1974, 1975, 1976 and 1977 for the three family types asked for.case the family consists of man, wife and three children aged 13, 11 and 9.

Total support (excluding tax allowances) attributable to children
£
(i)Working19·06
(ii)In receipt of short term national insurance benefit.18·71
(iii)In receipt of supplementary benefit.18.45

Departmental Staff

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if all the 1,414 extra civil servants his Department proposes to take on to deal with claims for social security benefits will be employed in regional and local offices.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of the 1,414 extra staff he estimates will still be needed to deal with claims for social security benefits when the winter is over.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of the 1,414 extra civil servants his Department proposes to take on will be fraud investigators.

No specific provision for fraud investigators is included. The provision of adequate staffing levels in local offices, however, will enable all work, including that relating to fraud, to be dealt with more efficiently.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if it is his policy to react to every overtime ban by local DHSS staff with a promise to increase the number of such staff.

No. The recent increase in staff is the outcome of a regular quarterly review of total staffing requirements and has been provided to meet increased work loads in local offices.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he examined in detail methods of reorganising local DHSS offices and transferring staff before deciding to take on an extra 1,414 civil servants to deal with claims for social security benefits.

The additional staff are being provided to meet net increases in the work loads of local offices over the country as a whole. Concurrently, adjustments are being made to the distribution of existing local office complements where work loads have exceeded or fallen short of forecasts.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will give a breakdown by grade of the 1,414 extra civil servants his Department proposes to take on; and if he will make a rough estimate of the total salary bill this increase in staff will represent in the first year of employment.

This information will not be available until the individual local office complements have been revised to take account of these additional posts.

Marginal Tax Rates And Personal Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what percentage increase in gross earnings a man with a wife and two children, earning £40 per week would require in order to increase his net weekly spending power by 14 per cent., which is the current rate of inflation, taking into account tax and national insurance and adjustments to rent and rate rebates, and assuming that he is due for reassessment for FIS within one month.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 26th October 1976; Vol. 918, c. 130–1], circulated the following information:Net spending power is determined by tax and benefit levels as well as increases in earnings all of which change at different times. The only meaningful approach to this question is therefore to examine the family situation over a past period of 12 months, to reflect an annual rate of inflation, in which case a 14·2 per cent. increase in earnings would have resulted in a 14 per cent. increase in net weekly spending power.NOTES:1. Net weekly spending power is earnings plus family allowances plus family income supplement less tax less national insurance plus rent rebate plus rate rebate less rent less rates plus the value of free school meals and welfare milk less work expenses.2. Housing costs and work expenses are assumed to have risen between November 1975 and November 1976. The assumptions are:

November 1975November 1976
££
Rent4·334·72
Rates1·731·90
Work expenses0·751·75
3. FIS would not have been payable in November 1975.

National Hospital For Nervous Diseases

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much has been paid in 1976 by the National Hospital for Nervous Diseases to London and Provincial Nursing Services Ltd. for temporary nursing staff; and how much of this amount represents commission.

Expenditure to 27th October was £34,136. It is not possible without excessive time and effort to establish the precise amount of commission included, but it has not exceeded £4,000.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Meat Processing

24.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that his recent EEC negotiations have adequately protected the United Kingdom meat processing industry.

I assume the hon. Member is primarily interested in the situation in Northern Ireland and would refer him to the answer given earlier this afternoon to the hon. Members for Devon, West (Mr. Mills) and Harborough (Mr. Farr).

Pig Production

25.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he proposes to take to protect British pig producers from the consequences of the Government's refusal to revalue the green pound.

Any increase in pig prices associated with a devaluation of the green pound would have to be set against an inevitable increase in feed costs. The interests of this sector would best be served by changing the way monetary compensatory amounts for pigmeat and pigmeat products are calculated. The European Commission intends to implement a proposal that will have the effect of reducing these amounts by 8 per cent. This will be helpful to our industry but does not fully meet our needs. My right hon. Friend's proposal for a more radical change is still under discussion and we will continue to press our case.

Poultry Meat (Hygiene Regulations)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many extra veterinary inspectors are to be recruited as a result of the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Banbury (Mr. Marten) on 5th August.—[Vol. 916, c. 2101–02.]

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that the current recruitment and training of poultry meat inspectors is at a level sufficient to provide a full complement by the time of the implemention of the new service.

As I told the hon. Member for Norfolk, South (Mr. MacGregor) on 5th August—[Vol. 916, c. 2101–2.]a full inspection service will not be mandatory until August 1979. In the first instance only exporting plants are likely to require inspectors and we have asked local authorities to take a flexible attitude to manning levels while the inspection service is being phased-in. Appropriate arrangements for this phasing-in period are the subject of continuing consultations with local authority associations, the Local Authorities' Conditions of Service Advisory Board and the British Poultry Federation.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the cost of training poultry meat inspectors required under the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations.

In the region of £1,500 each, including the student inspectors' salary during training.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has of the number of spent birds from egg-producing units that will not be able to be slaughtered when the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations are fully implemented.

I am confident that the indlustry has sufficient flexibility to overcome any potential problems in this field.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has had from district and metropolitan authorities concerning the new poultry hygiene service.

During the period of consultation on proposals for Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations, the associations representing these authorities made written representations as did individual Authorities. My officials met representativies of the associations on two occasions and subsequently I had two meetings with them. I also met the Local Authorities' Conditions of Service Advisory Board. Since the regulations were laid before Paliament, consultations with the associations and the industry have continued on flexible arrangements for the phasing-in of poultry meat inspection.

Poultry Farmers

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the latest estimate of the number of farmers selling uneviscerated poultry beyond their own locality who will be required to find slaughterhouse facilities under the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations of they wish to remain in business.

In view of the concession for producer sales of dry plucked poultry, announced by my right hon. Friend on 4th August and welcomed by producer and consumer organisations as well as by Members of the House, the number should be minimal.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his estimate of the number of poultry producers who will be put out of business by the time of the full implementation of the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations.

Between 1970 and 1975, the number of poultry producers fell by 20 per cent. but the production of poultry meat increased by 13 per cent. Implementation of the regulations should not significantly affect the trend.

Poultry Marketing

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of chickens marketed in the United Kingdom are sold as New York dressed; and how this position compares with that in each of the last five years.

Precise figures are not available. Present estimates are that over the year as a whole about 10 per cent.—15 per cent. of all poultry is sold in this form with a concentration of sales of turkeys and capons at the Christmas period. Estimates made in 1972–73 indicated about 20 per cent. of poultry was marketed in this form.

Poultry Meat Inspection

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what is his estimate of the cost of conforming to the structural standards for poultry slaughter set out in the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations;(2) what amendments and alterations will have to be made to poultry slaughterhouses to conform to the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Banbury (Mr. Marten) on 22nd March. A scheme of assistance under Section 8 of the Industry Act, announced on 4th August, will assist in meeting these costs.—[Vol. 908, c. 79.]

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what will be the running costs of veterinary inspection under the Poultry Meat (Hygiene) Regulations.

I would refer the hon. Member to the replies given to the hon. Members for Banbury (Mr. Marten) and Devon, West (Mr. Mills) on 22nd March and 29th June, respectively—[Vol. 908, c. 79; Vol. 912, c. 151–2]—and to my hon. Friend the Member for Chorley (Mr. Rogers) on 25th May—[Vol. 914, c. 155.]

Poultry (Slaughtering Methods)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many people have been taken ill in the last five years as a result of the present method of slaughtering poultry.

It is impossible to say. Many cases of food poisoning are not reported at all and, of those that are, only a minority are traced to particular foods. During the period 1969–72, poultry meat accounted for 33 per cent. of all food poisoning outbreaks traced to particular foods. The corresponding figure for 1973–75 was 35 per cent.

Potatoes

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) if he will list in the Official Report the total annual potato crop each year since 1970 in each United Kingdom region; and what was the value of the crop in each region at current and at August 1976 sterling values;(2) if he will list in the

Official Report the total acreage devoted to potato pro-

Total Potatoes: Area and Production

1970

1971

1972

1973

'000 acres

'000 tons

'000 acres

'000 tons

'000 acres

'000 tons

'000 acres

'000 tons

England and Wales5135,7294925,7844585,1884365,408
Scotland1081,2361001,1269093785986
Northern Ireland48400423693629935306
United Kingdom6697,3656347,2795846,4245566,700

1974

1975

1976

'000 acres

'000 tons

'000 acres

'000 tons

'000 acres*

'000 tons†

England and Wales4215,3574013,3594314,500
Scotland801,0347688283
Northern Ireland312922723937
United Kingdom5326,6835044,4085514,500
(223
hectares)

* Provisional.

† Estimate.

It it not the practice of my Department to publish figures relating to the value of the crop on a regional basis and I can only refer the hon. Member to the figures for the United Kingdom as a whole published in the White Paper on the Annual Review of Agriculture 1976 (Cmnd. 6392).

Thames Flood Barrier

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has received from the Greater London Council about the need for a speedy completion of the Thames Flood Barrier; and what reply he has given.

My right hon. Friend met Sir Reg Goodwin, the Leader of the Greater London Council, on 13th October to discuss with him the progress being made on the construction of the barrier and to assure him of continued Government support for this important project.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his latest estimate of the total cost of constructing (a) the Thames Flood Barrier and (b) the associated river defence works compared with the original estimate; and what proportion of these costs will be met by Exchequer grant.

duction in each region of the United Kingdom in each year since 1970.

Figures showing the acre age planted to potatoes and the tonnage produced in the main regions of the United Kingdom are given below:

The estimated costs at March 1976 prices compared with the original estimates given in December 1973 are as follows:

(a) Thames Barrier
December 1973£88 million
March 1976£158 million
(b) Associated river defence work
December 1973£143 million
March 1976£223 million
The current rates of grant payable are 75 per cent. in respect of the work carried out by the Greater London Council and Thames Water Authority—total estimated expenditure £239 million; 80 per cent. for Southern Water Authority—total estimated expenditure £42 million; and 85 per cent. for Anglian Water Authority—total estimated expenditure £100 million.

Holland, Lincolnshire

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many acres in the Parts of Holland, Lincs., have been classified by the Agricultural Land Service as grade I, II, III, IV and V.

The information is as follows:

Grade and DescriptionAcres
1land of exceptional quality156,660
2land of high quality97,851
3valuable land for a wide range of agricultural usesNil
4land of restricted potential3,953
5land of very restricted potentialNil

National Finance

International Monetary Fund

26.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has any plans to meet the representatives of the International Monetary Fund during their visit to the United Kingdom.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he next intends to meet representatives of the IMF.

I have nothing to add to the answer given to a similar Question on 26th October to the hon. Member for Blaby (Mr. Lawson).—[Vol. 918, col. 199].

Counter-Inflation And Sterling Value

26.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what new measures he is proposing to reduce the threat to social cohesion by (a) stringent measures to control inflation and public expenditure and (b) the continuing decline in the internal and external value of the £ sterling.

The Government's policies are directly aimed at restoring and strengthening Britain's industrial performance, on which our economic prosperity depends. We do not accept that such policies represent any threat to the social cohesion of the British nation.

Alcohol, Petrol And Tobacco

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish figures in the Official Report in support of his recent statement that taxes on drink, petrol and tobacco are much lower in real terms than they were 10 years ago.

Percentage changes between September 1966 and September 1976 in the real value of duty and VAT have been as follows:

Percent.
Drink (weighted average)-20
Petrol (private consumer)-19
Tobacco (cigarettes)-25

Public Sector Borrowing

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much of the lastest estimate of the public sector borrowing requirement is attributable to central Government, the nationalised industries and local authorities, respectively; how much in each case is net capital expenditure; and how much would be saved if unemployment fell to 600,000.

An analysis of the Budget forecast of the public sector borrowing requirement in 1976–77 by sub-sector is set out below. It is not the practice to publish details of estimates made between Budgets. The nationalised industries form the greater part of the public corporation sub-sector.

£ million
Public sector borrowing requirement of which, borrowing from the private and overseas sector by—11,962
central Government10,426
local authorities937
public corporations599
Alternative Presentation
Central Government borrowing, less lending to local authorities and public corporations5,688
Local authority borrowing, including borrowing from central Government2,504
Public corporations borrowing, including borrowing from central Government3,770
Public sector borrowing requirement11,962
The corresponding estimates of net capital expenditure, including net lending and expenditure on the acquisition of company securities, by central Government, local authorities and public corporations are £3,496 million, £4,361 million and £5,646 million respectively.It is not possible to estimate the change in the public sector borrowing requirement that would occur if unemployment fell to 600,000 without knowing why the reduction in unemployment took place or when it was supposed to happen. The effect on the borrowing requirement would be quite different, for example, according to whether the reduction in unemployment was brought about by a fiscal reflation or by, say, an increase in demand for exports.

Public Expenditure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total amount of central Government public expenditure in 1975–76; and what proportion of that was spent in the GLC area and non-GLC parts of the Home Counties of Surrey, Sussex, Berkshire, Hertfordshire, Kent and Buckinghamshire, or the nearest equivalent of that total area.

Central Government public expenditure in 1975–76 was £34,122 million, including debt interest. No corresponding figure is available for expenditure in London and the home counties, nor for the South-East Region.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he proposes to publish the next White Paper on Public Expenditure.

The next Public Expenditure White Paper will be published after the Government have completed their review of public expenditure.

Luncheon Vouchers

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the cost to the Revenue of the present extra-statutory concession which allows luncheon vouchers to be received tax free up to 15p a day; and what would be the estimated cost of increasing the limit from 15p to 75p per day.

The 15p concession costs about £10 million a year, and assuming that an increase were fully taken up by those at present providing luncheon vouchers, to increase it to 75p would cost a further £40 million.

Labour Costs

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what effect the increase in unit labour costs of over 30 per cent. in 1975 has had on the United Kingdom's exchange rate for the £ sterling. and the United Kingdom's export prices for manufacturers; and when that effect was felt.

It is not possible to give a precise estimate of the effect on the exchange rate of a high rate of wage inflation. This depends upon a number of other factors. The effect of an increase in unit wage costs on the unit value index for exports depends in part on the consequences for the exchange rate. On the artificial assumption that relative export prices in dollar terms remain unchanged between the United Kingdom and competitor countries, the effect of a rise in unit wage costs on the sterling unit value index for exports of manufactures will be roughly proportional in the long run. It is particularly difficult to make an estimate of the timing of such an effect.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the percentage increase (a) in annual unit labour costs since 1971 and (b) in the annual amount by which the sterling has been devalued since 1972.

National Debt

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the average amount of interest paid per head of the United Kingdom population on the National Debt in each of the seven years ended 5th April 1976; and what is his estimate of the amount of such interest, per head of the population for the year ending 5th April 1977.

The interest paid on the National Debt per head of the total population of the United Kingdom is as follows:

Year ending 31 MarchInterest per head of population (£' s)
197025·4
197125·5
197228·6
197332·6
197440·8
197549·8
197662·2
197786*
*Estimate

Oil Price

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the additional charge on the balance of payments of an increase of $1·50 on the market price of Middle East crude oil in 1977, from 1st January 1977, assuming (a) the same volume of imports as in 1976 and (b) a reduction of 25 million tonnes in imports allowing for the balance to be made up by North Sea oil.

Some £600 million under assumption (a) and some £400 million under assumption (b). These calculations are based on the level of oil imports in the first three-quarters of 1976 and on the current exchange rate of around $1·60. It is hoped in practice that flows of North Sea oil will rise by more than 25 million tonnes in 1977.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the average rate of interest paid on the National Debt during each of the seven years ended 5th April 1976; and what is his estimate of the average rate of interest on the National Debt payable during the year ending 5th April 1977.

The interest paid expressed as a percentage of the National Debt is as follows:

Year ending 31st MarchInterest paid as percentage of National Debt
19704·3
19714·2
19724·5
19735·0
19745·7
19756·1
19766·2
19777·1*
* Estimate

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the average per head of the population of the United Kingdom of the National Debt on 5th April 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975 and 1976; and what were the equivalent figures, on the same debt, for each of the other eight members of the EEC.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Brentford and Isleworth (Mr. Hayhoe) on 12th July 1976.—[Vol. 915, c. 114–16.] Figures for central Government debt per head in other EEC member countries, converted to sterling at market exchange rates, at 31st March 1975 are:

£
West Germany390
France190*
Italy340
Netherlands540
Belgium1,080
Luxembourg540
Denmark50
Ireland630†
* Based on United Nations population estimate.
† Refers to 31st December 1974 not 31st March 1975.
Insufficient information is available for all countries to make this calculation for 31st March 1976.

Public Sector Debt

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of public expenditure and of GDP was represented by debt interest in each of the seven years ended 5th April 1976; and what was the amount of that interest in each of these years.

The information which follows relates to interest on the debt of the public sector, including local authorities and public trading enterprises.

PUBLIC SECTOR DEBT INTEREST
As percentage of public expenditureAs percentage of GDPValue £ million
1969–7010·35·12,066
1970–719·44·82,129
1971–729·24·52,298
1972–738·84·42,507
1973–749·55·13,268
1974–758·95·14,008
1975–768·55·04,847

Betting And Gaming

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is currently the net weekly expenditure in Great Britain on betting; and what is currently the net weekly cost of paying family allowances.

In the second quarter of 1976, the latest date for which information is available, the estimated net weekly expenditure in the United Kingdom on betting and gaming was approximately £12½ million and the net weekly cost of family allowances—gross payments less tax recovery and clawbackwas approximately £5½ million.

Interest Rates

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what steps he will now take to bring about a reduction in interest rates in London, in view of the Government's intention that the present high rate is temporary;(2) what calculations he has made of the extent of the depreciation of the exchange rate of the £ sterling against the other principal world currencies now necessary to achieve a reduction in interest rates in London to levels comparable with those in other major financial centres.

As my right hon. Friend made clear in the debate on the economic situation on 11th October 1976—[Vol. 917, c. 46]—the Government do not want interest rates to continue at the current high levels. Steps to bring them down will depend on progress in getting the growth of the money supply back on course; in particular, a continuing improvement in the tone of the market for Government debt will itself tend to reduce the level of interest rates.As to the effect of further depreciation of the exchange rate on the level of interest rates, it must be remembered that external factors are only one of a number of influences on interest rates; interest rates are bound to be affected also by factors such as the state of inflationary expectations, the levels of public and private sector demand for finance, and the Government's objectives for the development of monetary aggregates.

National Savings

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether any estimate was made by his Department of the effect on savings as the result of the decision to withdraw official support from the voluntary National Savings Movement; and if he will make a statement about the value of that movement to the proper functioning of the economy.

We anticipate that when the official staff are withdrawn most of those savers who have been recruited into national savings groups will continue with the savings habit and the loss to national savings is not expected to be significant. We believe that without official support staff the voluntary movement will still have a worthwhile educational rôle particularly in the teaching of thrift and sound money management to the young in schools and places of employment to the benefit of the individual and the nation. The movement is currently considering what its future role should be.

National Income Statistics

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will arrange for the publication in the Official Report of figures covering the years from 1948 to the latest available date corresponding to tables 12.2, 12.6, 12.12 and 12.14 of the National Income Blue Book.

I regret that this information cannot be provided in the form requested without a disproportionate expenditure of time and resources. The Central Statistical Office can, however, provide the hon. Member with computer print-out from which both the information requested and other related data may be derived.

Defence

Compensation Payments

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what payment of compensation has been made to Mr. Francis McGuigan and where; and when the result of the review of compensation policy will be published.

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will take steps to rectify the disparity in the amounts of compensation awarded to the widows of murdered Service men and those awarded to terrorists for alleged ill-treatment under interrogation.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about the £12,000 compensation for Mr. McGuigan.

The normal processes of law are available to anybody who considers that he has been ill treated whilst in custody. All 14 men subjected to the five techniques of interrogation in depth in Northern Ireland in 1971 instituted proceedings in the Northern Ireland High Court, and Mr. McGuigan is the thirteenth to be compensated. A settlement in this case was agreed at £11,750, to be paid to his solicitor in Belfast.Awards to the widows of murdered Service men are made under the Criminal Injuries to Persons (Compensation) Act (Northern Ireland) 1968, which is operated by the Northern Ireland Office. Such awards are intended to compensate for financial loss resulting from criminal activities. Service widows receive lump sums and pensions from the Forces Family Pension Scheme and this is taken account of in assessing the award under the Act.I understand that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland will be writing to the hon. Member.

for Epping Forest (Mr. Biggs-Davison) about the question of publication of the results of the review of compensation policy.

Ulster Defence Regiment

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will review the vetting procedure for recruits to existing members of the UDR in the light of the convictions for murder of members who were also members of the UVF.

The security procedures to exclude members of extremist organisations from the UDR are kept under continual review. I am satisfied that they are as stringent as they can be, both for applicants to join the regiment and for serving members of the force.

Sewerage Works, Portland

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has submitted plans for independent sewage treatment works at Portland or expressed any view on current proposals.

The long-term redevelopment plan for the naval base at Portland includes the provision of a sewage treatment works near the Mere oil fuel depot. A formal approach to the local authority concerning this project will be made in due course under normal planning procedures.The Ministry of Defence has also expressed an interest in the possibility of making use of a Home Department scheme for sewage treatment at the Verne Prison and Portland Borstal. No formal commitment has been entered into, but Home Department plans will allow for part of the naval system to be linked in if required.As a separate issue the Ministry of Defence has registered a provisional objection to a local authority plan to develop a sewage disposal system by means of a longer pipeline out to sea on the grounds that the proposed siting of The outfall is such that it is likely to attract birds to an area where they may constitute a danger to helicopters operating from HMS "Ospery", Portland.

Hydrographic Strategic Review Body

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what are the composition and terms of reference of the Hydrographic Strategic Review Body; and if he will list the names and qualifications of his members;(2) how often the Hydrographic Strategic Review Body meets; and if it will publish any report, conclusions or findings.

The present composition of the Hydrographic Strategic Review Body is as follows:

Chairman:Mr. R. M. Hastie-Smith, Assistant Under-Secretary of State (Naval Staff), Ministry of Defence.
Members:Appropriate representatives of:
Her Majesty's Treasury
Department of Energy
Department of the Environment
Ministry of Defence
Department of Trade
Ministry of Overseas Development
Its terms of reference are:

"To review strategically the national programme of hydrographic surveying."

It met for the first time on 12th May 1976, will meet not less frequently than once a year, and will provide a valuable forum for relevant interdepartmental discussion. The non-Government interests in the programme are taken into account through consultations prior to meetings of the review body. I do not envisage that it will publish reports, though its work may be reflected in ministerial decisions of which the House will be informed as appropriate.

Fisheries Protection

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what studies are being made of new types of vessel required to police exclusive fishing limits of (a) 50 miles and (b) 200 miles in United Kingdom waters;(2) what calculation has been made of the number and type of vessels which will be required to enforce fisheries regulations and international conventions, resource management measures, closed

areas and periods, mesh, gear, variety and minimum size restrictions, within (

a) a 200 mile exclusive economic zone and ( b) a 50 mile exclusive fishing limit.

To prepare for the extension of fishing limits and for the possible introduction of a 200-mile exclusive economic zone we are planning to provide five new Royal Navy ships of the Island class and four RAF Nimrod surveillance aircraft. The first of the Island class ships has already been commissioned and the remainder will enter service during 1977; the RAF aircraft will he allocated on 1st January 1977. Other resources of the Armed Forces will be made available as required.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many fisheries protection vessels are currently in service.

At present the Fishery Protection Squadron has 11 ships; in addition HMS Jura, although primarily employed on the protection of oil and gas installations, also carries out fishery protection tasks. Other ships and aircraft can be called up at short notice to assist if the need should arise. The Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland has five fishery protection vessels in service.

Offshore Installations (Emergency Services)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what enforcement of emergency services for ships, rigs, structures, etc., will be required to cover an exclusive zone of 200 miles; and what new types of vessel will be required.

Emergency service for ships, rigs and structures are the responsibility, in the first instance, of the owner of the property concerned; and the provision of emergency equipment is subject to regulation and to survey and inspection by Government Departments concerned. If an emergency required resources beyond the capability of those available to the owners or the police the Armed Forces could be called upon to provide assistance by the appropriate authorities. Such possibilities were taken into account when the decision was taken to order the new Island class of offshore patrol vessels for the Royal Navy—the first of which has already been com- missioned—and to allocate four RAF Nimrod aircraft for offshore duties from 1st January 1977.

Ministerial Appointments

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will publish in the Official Report a detailed list giving the full- and part-time appointments made by his Department which are held by peers of the realm, the names of the holders, the salaries and expenses paid to the holders of these appointments and when such appointments were made.

pursuant to the reply [Official Report, 14th June 1976; Vol. 913, c. 28], gave the following information:

National Army Museum Council

  • The Marquess of Anglesey—member since November 1967. No payments made.

Meterological Committee

  • The Earl of Halsbury—Chairman since April 1970. Honorarium of £136·50 per annum payable.

Scottish/American Community Relations Committee Royal Air Force Edzell

  • The Viscount Arbuthnot—Chairman since June 1974. Up to £100 per annum payable in respect of travelling, entertainment, administrative and other expenses.

Royal Hospital School Management Committee

  • Lord Belstead—Member since April 1976. No payments made.

Greenwich Hospital Advisory Panel

  • Lord Cromwell—Member since October 1973. No payments made.

RAF Museum Board of Trustees

  • Rt. Hon. Viscount De L'Isle—Trustee since March 1966. No payments made.

St. Clement Danes (RAF) Church

  • Viscount Ward of Witley—Managing Trustee since August 1973. No payments made.

Industry

Regional Aid

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what representations he has made to the EEC Commission on the future percentage of grants for regional development to intermediate areas not having special development area status; and what has been the reaction of the Commission;(2) what representations he has made to the EEC Commission about the level of allocation of regional aid to the North-West of England as compared with other parts of the United Kingdom; and what has been the reaction of the Commission.

The Fund Regulation allocates a specific quota of aid to each member State, but there is no subdivision of this among the constituent parts. However, the regulation specifies that priority must be given to projects in national priority areas. For the United Kingdom this means that projects located in the special development and development areas have a higher priority than those in the intermediate areas. I have made no representation for changing this provision.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what changes in the criteria used by the EEC Commission in deciding on grants for regional development he has urged on the EEC Commission; and what has been the reaction of the Commission.

Meriden Workers' Co-Operative

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many jobs have been saved to date by the giving of financial assistance to Meriden Workers' Co-operative; and what was the cost per job to public funds.

About 700 are currently employed by the co-operative at Meriden. Total assistance provided to the co-operative under the Industry Act 1972 is £4·95 million of which £4·2 million was provided as a loan and £0·75 million as a grant.

Production And Productivity

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what has been the growth in industrial output in Great Britain over the last two years; and how this compares with the achievements of each of Great Britain's EEC partners over the same period;(2) what has been the growth in industrial productivity in Great Britain over the last two years; and how this compares with the achievements of each of Great Britain's EEC partners over the same period.

The information requested is as follows:

PERCENTAGE CHANGES 1973–1975
Industrial OutputIndustrial Productivity (Output per head)
United Kingdom-8·3-4·8
Belgium-6·9+8·8
France-6·7-4·9
West Germany-7·2+2·2
Ireland-3·4+2·7
Italy-5·2-9·0
Luxembourg-19·2-16·8
Netherlands-2·5+1·8

Source: Monthly Digest of Statistics;

OECD Main Economic Indicators.

Notes:

1. Figures for Great Britain, as distinct from the United Kingdom, are not available.

2. No information is available for Denmark.

3. For other EEC countries, the information given is as nearly as possible on a basis comparable to that for the United Kingdom, but there are some differences in coverage. These are not thought to have any significant effect on the comparisons.

Labour productivity for all production industries in the United Kingdom fell by 4·8 per cent. between 1973 and 1975. Estimates of the corresponding changes for our EEC partners over the same period are as follows:

Per cent.

Belgium+8·8
France-4·9
Germany+2·2
Ireland+2·7
Italy-9·0
Luxembourg-16·8
Netherlands+1·8

Notes:

1. Figures for Great Britain, as distinct from the United Kingdom, are not available.

2. No information is available for Denmark.

3. For our EEC partners, the employment figures used are not precisely comparable with the output measures. In general they relate to all employment in manufacturing only, but for Belgium they relate to wage earners in mining and manufacturing, and for Luxembourg to wage earners in all industry.

4. The output measure for Ireland relates only to mining and manufacturing; for other countries it relaets to all industry.

5. Sources:

Monthly Digest of Statistics.

OECD Main Economic Indicators.

Mobil Oil Company Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Industry who initiated the meeting between Mobil Oil and his Department that took place in the first week of June.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry why no public announcement was made on 29th September as to the offer of £10·3 million financial assistance to Mobil Oil.

Unless there are special circumstances, offers of assistance under the accelerated projects scheme are not announced when the offers are made but published in accordance with the arrangements announced to the House on 31st July 1974. In this case the assistance to Mobil Oil exceeded £5 million, and the offer was announced to the House when the statement required under Section 8(8) of the Industry Act 1972 was laid on 13th October.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the reason for his delay in informing the House

MONTHLY AVERAGE WHOLESALE PRICE OF HOME-GROWN POTATOES*
(pence per lb.)
January†FebruaryMarchApril†MayJune‡
1971
19720·90·91·01·11·32·0
19731·21·21·31·51·72·5
19741·31·21·21·31·33·4
19751·61·51·51·92·37·7
19767·68·89·511·89·77·8
(pence per lb.)
July‡AugustSeptemberOctoberNovemberDecember
19710·80·80·90·9
19721·51·11·01·01·11·2
19731·61·01·01·21·21·3
19742·01·61·51·61·51·7
19756·25·04·04·34·96·0
19765·27·57·8

Source: MAFF.

* Average wholesale prices at Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Leeds, Liverpool, Manchester, Gateshead, Nottingham and New Covent Garden.

† 5 weeks in these months.

‡ New potatoes.

It is not meaningful to compare wholesale prices for potatoes with the value of sterling.

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he will list in the Official Report the average wholesale price per pound of potatoes in each month of each of the last five years, expressed in current and in August 1976 sterling values.

:Average retail prices of potatoes in September 1971 can be found on page 1033 of Vol. LXXIX NO. 3 of the Department of Employment Gezette. Prices in more recent months appear in subsequent editions of the

about the offer of £10·3 million financial assistance to Mobil Oil.

There was no delay. A statement was laid before the House at the earliest convenient opportunity after the House reassembled.

Prices And Consumer Protection

Potatoes

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he will list in the Official Report the average retail price per pound of potatoes in each month in each of the last five years, expressed in current and in August 1976 sterling values.

Average wholesale prices for potatoes since September 1971 are as follows:

Gazette. It is not meaningful to compare retail potato prices with the value of sterling.

Over the five years September 1971 to September 1976, the latest month for which information is available, average retail prices for potatoes rose by 537 per cent.; over the same period the Retail Price Index (all items) rose by 98 per cent.

Accidents In The Home

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection whether a national surveillance system has yet been established for the collection of information on accidents in the home, as recommended by the report published in 1976 by his Department; and whether it is intended that separate statistics should be collected in respect of accidents related to architectural glass.

The national surveillance system for collecting information on accidents in and around the home from hospital accident and emergency departments is currently being established and is expected to be fully in operation, covering 20 hospitals, by the end of the year. Accidents involving architectural glass will be included and it will be possible to extract statistics relating to them.

Superstores

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what evidence his Department has of the effect of superstores on prices and trade in surrounding shopping centres.

There are not yet any generally accepted conclusions on this matter. A number of research studies have been commissioned, and some have recently been published. The indications are that in hypermarkets—i.e., with selling area above 50,000 sq. ft.—food prices can be on average some 7 per cent lower than prices in other retail outlets. In other large food stores the price difference is apt to be less. There is no clear evidence that the presence of a hypermarket or superstore tends to lower the prices charged by competing food outlets. Their effect on local trade seems to be more marked on multiple stores than on small independent food retailers.

Employment

Asbestos (Advisory Committee)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the dates on which the inquiry into asbestos being conducted by the Health and Safety Commission, has met since its establishment, the names and designations of those appointed and co-opted to its working groups, and the date on which these working groups have met since their establishment.

The Chairman of the Health and Safety Commission informs me that the Advisory Committee on asbestos has so far met twice, on 23rd June and 22nd September 1976, and will meet next on 15th December 1976.The membership of the working groups —co-opted members are indicated by an asterisk—and the dates on which they have met are as follows:

Working Group A (Medical)

  • Dr. K. Duncan (chairman), Director of Medical Services, Health and Safety Executive.
  • Professor E. D. Acheson, Dean, Faculty of Medicine, Southampton University, Professor of Clinical Epidemiology.
  • Mr. A. C. Blyg'nton, Secretary, Legal Department, Transport and General Workers' Union.
  • Dr. J. C. Gilson, former Director, Medical Research Council Pneumoconiosis Unit, Penarth.
  • Professor A. Mair, Professor of Community and Occupational Medicine, Dundee University.
  • Dr. J. Steel, Consultant to World Health Organisation in Industrial Hygiene, Senior Lecturer, Nuffield Department of Industrial Health, University of Newcastle upon Tyne. Consultant in Occupational Hygiene to the North of England Health Service.
  • Professor M. Turner-Warwick, Professor of Medicine (Thoracic Medicine), London University. Consultant Physician to Brompton and London Chest Hospitals.
  • *Dr. G. L. Leathart, Senior Lecturer, Department of Industrial Health, University of Newcastle upon Tyne.
  • *Dr. J. C. McDonald, Director, TUC Centenary Institute of Occupational Health.

Two meetings have been held, on 8th July and 5th October, and the next has been set for 16th December.

Working Group B (Environmental Monitoring)

  • Dr. G. Bloomfield (chairman), Director, Occupational Medicine and Hygiene Laboratories, Health and Safety Executive.
  • Dr. M. Molyneux, Occupational Hygienist, Institute of Naval Medicine.
  • Mr. F. Sugden, Chief Environmental Health Officer, Middlesbrough.
  • *Dr. S. Beckett, Institute of Occupational Medicine, Edinburgh.
  • *Dr. S. Holmes, TBA Industrial Products Limited, Secretary to the Asbestosis Research Council.
  • *Dr. L. E. Reed, Central Unit on Environmental Pollution, Department of the Environment.
  • *Dr. V. Timbrell, MRC Pneumoconiosis Unit, Penarth.
  • *Dr. R. Wood, Laboratory of the Government Chemist.

One meeting has been held, on 8th July. The next will take place on 28th October.

Working Group C (Legal and Administrative Controls)

  • Mr. H. J. Dunster (chairman), Deputy Director General Health and Safety Executive.
  • Mr. A. C. Blyghton, Legal Secretary, Transport and General Workers Union.
  • Mr. H. D. S. Hardie, Director, Turner & Newall Limited.
  • Mrs. R. Waterhouse, member of National Consumer Council.
  • *Mr. G. C. Jones, Chief Executive and Town Clerk, Gillingham.
  • *Miss E. P. Kruse, Department of the Environment (Noise, Clean Air and Wastes Division).
  • *Mr. R. J. Sherwood, Occupational Hygienist, Colt International Limited.
  • *Mr. G. Skinner, Department of the Environment (Building Regulations Administrative Division).
  • *Mr. J. L. Whitty, General and Municipal Workers Union.

Three meetings have been held, on 13th July, 13th September and 20th October. The next is planned for 3rd December.

Working Group D (Production and Use of Asbestos)

  • Dr. C. J. Stairmand (chairman, Consultant Chemical Engineer and Physicist.
  • Mr. H. D. S. Hardie, Director, Turner & Newall Limited.
  • Mr. W. Lewis, Union of Construction, Allied Trades and Technicians.
  • Mr. A. W. Ure, Director, Trollope & Colts Limited.
  • *Mr. D. F. Cornelius, Building Research Establishment (Building Regulations Professional Division).
  • *Mr. A. Jones, Chief Architect, John Laing Design Associates Limited.
  • *Mr. K. Humphreys, Department of the Environment.
  • *Mr. S. L. Hunt, Director, Southern Demolition Co. Limited.
  • *Mr. A. McLean, General and Municipal Workers Union.

Four meetings have been held, 12th and 29th July, 7th September and 22nd October, and the next will be held on 29th November. In addition, members have visited factories where asbestos is used in manufacture. These visits took place on 24th-26th August and 7th September.

Wages

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report details showing the average wages for males and females in each of the regions of the United Kingdom at the most recent convenient date.

Pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18th October 1976; Vol. 917, c. 306], gave the following information:Following are results of the New Earnings Survey 1976. Corresponding estimates for Northern Ireland are not available. Further information is published today in the

Department of Employment Gazette.

Average total gross weekly earnings of full-time men aged 21 and over and full-time women aged 18 and over whose pay for the survey pay-period in April 1976 was not affected by absence.

Country/Region

Men

Women

Great Britain£71·80£46·20
England£71·90£46·50
South-East£77·00£50·00
East Anglia£66·40£43·40
South-West£67·20£44·40
West Midlands£68·90£44·80
East Midlands£67·30£42·90
Yorkshire and Humber-side£68·90£43·30
North-West£70·30£44·40
North£71·40£45·00
Wales£69·80£45·50
Scotland£71·60£44·60

The estimates are given to the nearest 10p and are subject to sampling error.

Education And Science

Glass Doors And Windows (Accidents)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will now collect statistics relating to injuries to schoolchildren caused by walking into glass doors and windows.

Deplorable as such accidents are I do not think it would be justifiable on the evidence available to the Department to require schools and their authorities to collect and make these returns. Responsibility for the safety of schoolchildren rests with the schools and their authorities; and I believe these bodies to be generally alert to this hazard, both in the design and in the use of school buildings. All design decisions require a balance to be struck between a number of considerations, of which risk of injury is only one. Guidance on glazing is available and known to the qualified architects who design school buildings—as, for example, the British Standard Code of Practice CP152 "Glazing and Fixing of Glass for Buildings" which offers guidance on, among other things, safety, with particular reference to buildings used predominantly by juveniles. I am aware of the current interest of the Building Research Establishment and the Health and Safety Executive in this subject generally; and shall consider the applicability to schools of any findings that may emerge.

Further Education (School Leavers)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is her estimate of (a) the increase in the number of applications for part-time further education courses which will result from the new system of paying unemployment benefit to school leavers doing such courses and (b) the decline in applications for full-time further education courses following the introduction of the new system.

Energy

Health And Safety (Offshore)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) what vessels will be used to enforce safety regulations in diving and submersible operations within a 200-miles exclusive economic zone;(2) what new types of vessels will be required to enforce petroleum production safety regulations within a 200-miles exclusive economic zone.

Regulations concerned with the safety of oil and gas exploration and production activities and related diving operations on the United Kingdom Continental Shelf are already effectively enforced by my Department's Petroleum Engineering Directorate. The inspectors travel to installations by helicopter; I am confident that such access will always be readily available. The possible introduction of a 200-miles exclusive economic zone will not affect these arrangements.

Nuclear Power (Research)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how much money has so far been spent in the United Kingdom on research and development for Great Britain's nuclear power programme; and how this compares with the total amount spent so far on research and develop. ment into the benign sources of energy.

Expenditure by the UKAEA up to 31st March 1976 on research and development in direct support of the nuclear power programme has been about £925 million. The Government's programme of research and development on renewable sources of energy, such as solar, wave and geothermal energy, is in its formative stages. Expenditure is spread over several Departments and details are not readily available. It is, however, an expanding programme.

Power Engineering (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what representations he has received from those working in the power engineering industry regarding the future of the industry; and when he will be in a position to announce his proposals for the protection of the employment of those engaged in the industry.

I have received a number of representations from both sides of the industry, and have explained that the Central Policy Review Staff are making an urgent study of the industry's problems to assist the Government in determining what might be done to meet them.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Kenya

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what plans he has for a ministerial visit to Kenya.

My right hon. Friend has no immediate plans to visit Kenya but hopes that at some stage he will have the opportunity to do so.

Tanzania

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress has recently been made towards establishing satisfactory levels of compensation for British settlers faced with nationalisation of their property in the Imbeya Region of Tanzania.

The Tanzanian authorities issued formal letters of intent in September to buy out eight British-owned farms in the Mbozi district of the Mbeya Region. Arrangements for the purchase of these farms are the subject for discussion between the Tanzanian authorities and the owners. The British High Commission in Dar-es-Salaam is keeping my right hon. Friend's Department closely informed of developments.

Transkei

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs which of the criteria for according diplomatic recognition by Her Majesty's Government are not met in the case of the Transkei.

Her Majesty's Government's appraisal of the evidence is that the Transkei is not fully independent internally or externally.

Ministerial Visits Overseas

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list those countries in the world to which Ministers of Her Majesty's Government do not pay official visits and the reasons for such a situation in each case.

There is no such list of countries. Each potential overseas visit is considered on its merits in the light of all the circumstances.

Lebanon

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, in the light of Israel's military involvement in Southern Lebanon, he will raise the conflict in the Security Council as a threat to the peace of the Middle East.

No. At this point such a move would be unlikely to assist in resolving the conflict in Lebanon. But we shall continue to watch the situation closely.

Dr Kurt Waldheim

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if Her Majesty's Government will support the reappointment of Dr. Kurt Waldheim as Secretary-General of the United Nations.

It is our practice not to reveal our voting intentions in advance of United Nations elections.

Poles (Visas)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, what is the average time it takes for Polish citizens to receive United Kingdom visas via the British Embassy, Warsaw and Poznan.

The time taken to issue visas varies greatly as all applications are dealt with on their merits. The average this year was two to three weeks. All visa applications in Poland are processed by the British Embassy in Warsaw. There is no British representative in Poznan. Applications from Poznan are sometimes transmitted to the Embassy by the local tourist office but most applicants deal direct with the Embassy.

United Nations Day

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the cost of Government support to the United Nations Association in respect of United Nations Day, for 1976, 1975 and 1974.

The posters and leaflets produced for United Nations Day form part of the Government's policy of supporting and publicising the United Nations. The costs over the past three years were as follows:

LeafletsPosters
££
19742,2451,503
19752,8752,309
19763,2053,566

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many United Nations Day leaflets and posters were printed at the Government's expense for 1976, 1975 and 1974.

The numbers of United Nations Day leaflets and posters produced over the past three years are as follows:

LeafletsPosters
1974300,00077,000
1975300,00077,000
1976300,00068,000

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many United Nations Day leaflets and posters were actually distributed in 1975 and 1974.

The numbers of United Nations Day leaflets and posters distributed over the past three years are as follows:

LeafletsPosters
1974300,00077,000
1975300,00075,000
1976300,00068,000

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what reports the Government have received of the cost effectiveness of the 1975 and 1974 United Nations schemes; when they expect to have a report on the 1976 scheme; and if they will publish the report.

The Government do not consider that the cost effectiveness of the distribution of United Nations Day leaflets and posters can be measured.

Rhodesia

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the estimated total cost to Her Majesty's Government of the talks on Rhodesia now being held in Geneva.

I cannot say at this stage what the total cost is likely to be; this will depend on the duration of the conference. In addition to meeting all the charges arising out of the administrative costs Her Majesty's Government are paying the equivalent of 12 economy-class air tickets from southern Africa to Geneva for each delegation, together with a total of 1,800 Swiss francs per day per delegation towards hotel expenses in Geneva. Parliamentary approval for this expenditure will be sought in a Supplementary Estimate.

Overseas Development

Africa And India (Per Capita Incomes)

asked the Minister of Overseas Development if he will give his estimate of the per capita annual income in the former African colonies and in the Indian sub-continent.

My Ministry does not produce its own estimates of the GNP per capita of developing countries. However, the estimates of the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development for 1975, except where otherwise indicated, are as follows:

Former UK Colonies in AfricaUS Dollars
Nigeria$330
Tanzania$170
Kenya$220
Uganda$250
Ghana$460
Malawi$150
Zambia$540
Sierra Leone$200
Lesotho$180
Botswana$330
The Gambia$190
Swaziland$470
Mauritius$580
Seychelles$370*
Indian Sub-Continent
India$150
Bangladesh$110
Pakistan$140
Nepal$110
Sri Lanka$150
Bhutan$70†
*for 1973
†for 1974
The estimates for Seychelles and Bhutan are very tentative.

Zimbabwean Students

asked the Minister for Overseas Development what long-term plans are under consideration by the Government for the education of Zimbabwean students.

I appreciate my hon. Friend's deep concern about this matter and I hope to be able to reply to him in the very near future.

asked the Minister for Overseas Development how many students from Zimbabwe have been refused awards by his Department; and how many of these were resident in the United Kingdom.

Approximately 1,550 applications for grants were unsuccessful, including a small number received after selection panels had sat. In the time available it is not possible to identify how many of these were from applicants resident in the United Kingdom. That fact was, however, not material to the selection panels' consideration of applications, the basis for their selection being the candidate's qualifications for further education, the proposed field of study and the panels' judgment of each candidate's capacity successfully to complete the course requested within its normal term.

International Fund For Agricultural Development

asked the Minister for Overseas Development what has been the total contribution to date by the United Kingdom to the International Fund for Agricultural Development

CountryCurrency UnitAmount in CurrencyUS $ Equivalent
BelgiumBelgian Franc500,000,00012,642,202
DenmarkUS$7,500,000
FranceUS $25,000,000
Germany (Federal Republic)US $52,000,000
Ireland£ Sterling570,0001,010,039
ItalyUS $25,000,000
LuxembourgSpecial Drawing Rights320,000365,900
NetherlandsDutch Guilder100,000,00036,556,420
United Kingdom£ Sterling18,000,00031,895,970

asked the Minister for Overseas Development how many applications for educational grants from students from Zimbabwe were refused in the current year because insufficient funds were available; and how many students applied for grants in the current year after the closing date laid down for applications.

Approximately 1,550 applications for grants were unsuccessful. It is not possible to say how many of the unsuccessful applicants would have attracted awards under my Ministry's developmental criteria had unlimited funds been available. About 150 applications have been received since the

£ million at 1975 Survey Prices
1974–751975–761976–771977–781978–791979–80
via Local Authorities0·41·80·90·40·40·4
via The Housing Corporation3·24·910·116·117·119·7

Housing (Departmental Circulars)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many housing circulars have been issued by his Department to local housing authorities in Wales since March 1976.

Housing (Second Homes)

(IFAD), and what comparable contributions have been made or promised by each of the other members of the EEC.

No contribution has yet been made because the fund is not yet established. I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Hornchurch (Mr. Williams) on 14th October 1976.—[Vol. 917, c. 171–3.]—Contributions pledged by EEC countries together with dollar equivalents calculated as at 10th June 1976, as required by the IFAD Agreement, are as follows:closing date. All those received in time for processing before the time at which selection panels sat were considered.

Wales

Housing Loans

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much loan approval has been given to the Housing Corporation and housing associations in Wales in each year since 1974; and what is the projected level to 1979–80.

The gross amounts aproved for housing associations and the projected future levels are as follows:in Wales are used as second homes; and what proportion this represents of the housing stock in each district.

Rents

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proportion of council house costs in Wales were met by unrebated rent in 1972–73, 1973–74, 1974–75 and 1975–76.

It is estimated that in the financial years 1972–73, 1973–74, 1974–75 and 1975–76, unrebated rents offset 78 per cent., 74 per cent., 56 per cent and 57 per cent. respectively of the total expenditure in the housing revenue account.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what percentage margin he considers to be necessary in housing starts in Wales to allow for mobility, redevelopment and improvement.

Studies of housing situations in England and Wales over a number of years suggest that a minimum vacancy rate of 4 per cent. of the total housing stock is necessary for the market to operate effectively, and to allow for mobility, redevelopment and improvement.

Housing Starts

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many local authority housing, starts there were in Wales in each year since 1964.

I refer the hon. Member to Table 2.28 of the Digest of Welsh Statistics No. 22 (1976), a copy of which is available in the Library.

Aberystwyth

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he has any plans to pay an official visit to Aberystwyth.

I visited Aberystwyth officially twice last month and on a number of other occasions earlier in the year, and nothing will give me greater pleasure than to do so again when occasion arises.

Housing Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Wales in what year his series of currently relevant statistics on numbers of dwellings and households in Wales begins.

I do not know to which series of household and dwelling figures the hon. Member is referring. The primary source of data on numbers of households and dwellings in Wales is the census, and relevant records from this source are available back to at least 1921. Estimates of the stock of dwellings in 1971 and subsequent years have been published annually in the Digest of Welsh Statistics, copies of which are available in the Library.

Welsh Assembly

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will seek an alternative building to the Temple of Peace to house the proposed Welsh Assembly.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Brecon and Radnor (Mr. Roderick) on 26th October. —[Vol. 918, c. 173–4.]