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Written Answers

Volume 921: debated on Tuesday 30 November 1976

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 30th November 1976

Civil Service

Office Cleaning

asked the Minister for the Civil Service which central Government offices are currently cleaned by contract cleaning firms.

This information is not held centrally and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

Ministerial Appointments

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what changes have been made in this century over the powers of Ministers in relation to changes in senior Civil Service appointments within their Departments; and how far these powers have been transferred from senior Ministers to the Prime Minister.

Since 1920 the consent of the Prime Minister has been required to the appointment or removal of permanent heads of Department and their deputies; and the Head of the Civil Service has been responsible for advising the Prime Minister about these appointments. Before doing so, the Head of the Civil Service ensures that the views of the Minister in charge of the Department concerned have been fully taken into account and are embodied in his advice. Evidence about the procedure earlier in this century is not entirely conclusive; however, it is clear that before 1920 many permanent secretary and deputy secretary appointments were approved by the Prime Minister, although there was no formal requirement.

Employment

Jobcentre (Norwich)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment why it was considered necessary to propose spending £200,000 on building a new office block in Norwich for one of the Employment Services Agency's jobcentres when there are other suitable and recent office blocks already available nearby; and what re- consideration is now being given to this project.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the Employment Service Agency does not propose to finance the capital cost of building a jobcentre in Norwich and tenders have been invited for a building to lease. Three years' searching has failed to reveal any existing premises, for which planning permission could be obtained, which meet their requirements of a centrally sited shop unit with ground floor space for continuous self-service vacancy display. Discussions with the planning authority are continuing.

Training

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he intends to change the present position which permits training allowances to be paid to around 7,000 people annually who are completing TOPs sponsored courses in construction trades, but excludes from eligibility to either training allowance or unemployment benefit unemployed people who are completing vocational training outside the TOPs scheme.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that there are no plans to extend the payment of either training allowances under the TOPs scheme or unemployment benefit to people who are undergoing vocational training outside the TOPs scheme.The TSA has provided very consider. able funds for a variety of training grant and award schemes to be administered by the Construction Industry Training Board so as to increase the number of industrial training places available.

Factory Inspectors

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many factory inspectors there are; and how many factories they cover.

There are 663 general factory inspectors in post including those working in Factory Inspectorate headquarters and in the secretarial branches of the HSE as well as those outstationed in the area offices. In addition, there are 167 specialist inspectors working in the headquarters consultant sections, in the secretariat branches and outstationed in the area offices.On 31st December 1975 there were 209,573 premises registered under the Factories Act 1961 of which 205,466 were factories. They were also 179,451 premises registered under the Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act 1963 for the bulk of which the Factory Inspectorate is the enforcing authority.In addition, the Factory Inspectorate is responsible for all construction work, although the precise number of sites in existence is not known, and the inspectorate is also the enforcing authority for all work activity newly brought under health and safety legislation by the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974.

Dundee Skillcentre

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the waiting time at Dundee skillcentre for courses in heavy vehicle repair and maintenance.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the waiting time for a course of training in heavy vehicle repair and maintenance at Dundee skillcentre is about thre to six months.

Safety Representatives

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the cost involved in bringing into force the proposed regulations concerning safety representatives; how these costs would be incurred; and by whom.

If these regulations were brought into force, employers would bear the major costs involved. Costs would arise, for example, in giving safety representatives time off with pay to carry out their functions and to undertake training, and in meeting the managerial and administrative expenses of setting up and running safety committees.Any estimates of cost are bound to depend on the view taken on how active safety representatives and committees would be. It is also reasonable to assume that some costs could be absorbed and that there would be, in some areas, offsetting savings from the reduction of accidents which might result from the activities of safety representatives and safety committees. Again it is impossible to assess the value of such savings. However, estimates provided to me by local authorities and some other employers in the public sector suggested costs of up to £55 million per annum in the establishments for which they are responsible. If such costs were reproduced over the whole field of employment the total could be considerable but it has to be taken into account that in many industrial establishments in the private sector a system of safety representatives and committees already exists.

Environment

Buildings (Type Approvals)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will outline the obstacles preventing his setting up within his Department the machinery to implement a full type-approval system, as recommended by the Agrément Board; how many staff he estimates this would require; what would be the annual costs, both in salaries and administrative overheads; and when he expects to make further progress in this matter.

Consideration is being given to the possibility of setting up a system of type approvals for new building products. I will make a further statement as soon as possible.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion he estimates (a) by number and (b) by market value of the new building components and products coming on to the market have received an Agrément Certificate; and what action he proposes to take to widen the scope to nearer 100 per cent.

I doubt whether sufficient information is available to make a reliable estimate of this kind. Action to increase their market coverage is primarily a matter for the Agrçment Board.

Planning

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proposals he has for strengthening the powers of local authorities to enforce planning control: and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is about to undertake consultations with representative bodies about a range of proposals to strengthen and clarify the existing powers.

Derelict Land

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will announce the results of the survey of reclaimed derelict land conducted in April 1976.

The results are published today and a copy will be placed in the Library. They show that during 1975–76 2,460 hectares were reclaimed. This is the highest annual figure so far and is particularly welcome after the relatively poor result in 1974–75 when local government

CITIZENS OF NEW COMMONWEALTH COUNTRIES AND OF PAKISTAN GIVEN LEAVE TO ENTER THE UNITED KINGDOM AT BIRMINGHAM AIRPORT
(Units)
Total AdmittedAdmitted for settlement on ArrivalOthers
January to December 197588715872
January to June 1976231231

Electoral Law (Mr Speaker's Conference)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when it is hoped the new Speaker's Conference will start work; and if he will make a statement.

The terms of reference are at present under consideration and I cannot say when the conference will be able to start work.

Fire Service (Circular)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the main recommendations of Fire Service Circular 30/1976 and place a copy of the circular in the Library.

Fire Service Circular No. 30 /1976 provides interim guidance to fire authorities about the hazards posed by asbestos equipment used for fire fighting and the operational situations in which firemen may be exposed to asbestos, together with the precautions which may be necessary. The guidance was prepared in consultation with the

reorganisation affected work to the extent that only 1,323 hectares were reclaimed.

Home Department

Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many New Commonwealth and Pakistan citizens were admitted to the United Kingdom at Birmingham Airport in 1975 and the first half of 1976, respectively, (a) on acceptance for permanent settlement,(b) as already permanently settled, and (c) otherwise.

The available information is given in the following table. Those who are already settled and are returning from temporary absence cannot be separately identified and are included under 'others'.Health and Safety Executive and will be reviewed in the light of any recommendations which may be made by the Advisory Committee on Asbestos. Two copies of the circular were sent to the Library of the House.

Nationality Law

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list his powers to deprive British-born subjects of their nationality; and under what circumstances they may be exercised.

A citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies born in the United Kingdom could be deprived of his citizenship only if he had first lost or renounced his citizenship and subsequently regained it by naturalisation or registration. He could then be deprived of it in the circumstances set out in Section 20 of the British Nationality Act 1948, as amended by Section 4 of the British Nationality (No.2) Act 1964.

Animals (Experiments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether, as rats and guinea pigs were reported in Fire Note No. 1048 of 1976 to have been exposed to hydrogen chloride gas for 30 minutes, to have suffered gross damage to the eyes, noses and mouths and to have been kept for periods up to 24 hours before being killed, he is satisfied that no breach of the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 was involved;(2) whether, as experiments on rats and guinea pigs were reported in Fire Research Note 1048 of 1976 to have caused severe tissue damage and distress to the animals prior to their death, he is satisfied that no breach of the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 was involved.

Full details of these experiments are not immediately available. I will write to my hon. Friend.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, having regard to the recent incident at Porton, he will seek powers which will enable him to impose a ban on the import of diseased laboratory animals into the United Kingdom

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now introduce the legislation recommended by the Littlewood Committee on experiments on living animals in 1965.

I have nothing to add to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend's Question on 22nd November.—[Vol. 919, c.923.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he is taking arising from the paper submitted to him by Lord Platt, Lord Houghton and others on experiments on living animals.

My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State met Lord Houghton and his colleagues in August. Arising out of that meeting Lord Houghton wrote again to my hon. Friend in September and October to provide clarification of his proposals. My hon. Friend will be sending detailed comments in reply in the course of a few days with a view to a further meeting.

Drunkards (Fines)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by what date he expects Section 91 of the Criminal Justice Act 1967 to be fully effective in the abolition of imprisonment for drunkenness.

Section 91, which applies only to the offence of being drunk and disorderly, may not be brought into force until sufficient suitable accommodation for the care and treatment of persons convicted of the offence is available. I cannot say when this will be.

Gambling

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects the Royal Commission on Gambling to submit its interim report.

House Of Commons

Members' Pay

asked the Lord President of the Council what was the level of the salary of a Member of Parliament in March 1968 and what it would be today if it had moved in line with increases in the Retail Price Index and increases in the level of average earnings since then.

The salary of a Member of Parliament in March 1968 was £3,250. If this rate were increased in line with movements in the Index of Retail Prices, up to October 1976 and the index of average earnings, up to August 1976, the latest available figure, it would now be £8,313 and £10,085 respectively.

Defence

Ulster Defence Regiment

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now issue all members of the UDR with personal protection weapons.

No. I am satisfied with the existing arrangements which allow for the issue of personal protection weapons to members of the UDR where this is considered necessary in the light of the threat. These arrangements are kept under review.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many members of the UDR have been charged with a breach of regulations relating to the issue of personal security weapons.

I regret that it would require disproportionate effort to provide this information.

Army (Welfare Of Personnel)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he expects to publish the Report of the Committee on Army Welfare which sat under the Chairmanship of Professor J. C. Spencer, Professor of Social Administration at Edinburgh University; and if he will make a statement.

The report is being published today and I have arranged for a copy to be placed in the Library. I should like to take this opportunity of thanking Professor Spencer and his committee for their very comprehensive study of the Army's welfare problems. Their report makes an invaluable contribution to our knowledge in this important area.I have carefully studied the proposals and accept that the existing system of welfare support for Army personnel and their families can be improved. Some of the recommendations made have already been implemented, or are in hand, and those which have implications for all three Services are being studied further.After very full consideration I have, however, decided not to adopt the committee's main recommendation for an Army Social Work Service. Leaving aside the fact that pressures on the defence budget preclude the expenditure involved, I am satisfied that such an organisation would not best meet the Army's needs.We are, however, examining two alternatives considered by the committee. We are considering with the Sailors', Soldiers' and Airmen's Families Association the possibility of expanding its activities to take on a number of the tasks envisaged by the committee for an Army Social Work Service. We also believe there to be scope for improved links with local authority social services, and a pilot scheme lasting a year, and involving the WRVS, is planned in order to look into this. It could be that, ultimately, the Army's needs will be met by an amalgam of these two alternatives.

Departmental Staff (Gibraltar)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement over the dispute involving clerical workers in Gibraltar and in the Gibraltar Dockyard.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on 5th November to my hon. Friend the Member for Thornaby. (Mr. Wrigglesworth). —[Vol. 918, c. 724.]Discussions with the CPSA Headquarters in London, aimed at bringing the dispute to an end, are continuing.

Reserve Casualties (Relatives' Compensation)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence in how many cases the next of kin of the 65 reservists who were killed by accident on duty during the period from 1966 to October 1976 would have been debarred from claiming compensation from the Government owing to the operation of Section 10 of the Crown Proceedings Act 1947.

It appears very probable that, had any common law claims been made as a result of the deaths referred to, they would have been barred by Section 10 of the Crown Proceedings Act 1947.

Bullets

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what tests were carried out prior to the introduction of the use of the plastic bullet in Northern Ireland; and what are the reasons for its introduction in addition to the rubber bullet.

The rubber baton round was withdrawn from Northern Ireland towards the end of 1975 by which time it had been replaced by the plastic (PVC) round which is inherently more accurate, particularly at longer ranges. Like the rubber round, the plastic round was designed as a protective measure for use by soldiers in situations where it is judged to be the minimum reasonable force in the circumstances and when its use makes it unnecessary to use firearms. The plastic round was subjected to a full range of ballistic and safety tests before its introduction into service.

Transport

Car Registration (Cherished Numbers)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what proposals he has made for an increased licence charge for motorists wishing to retain an existing vehicle registration number; and under what statutory authority he proposes to make the increases.

None as yet. The statutory authority would be a regulation made under Section 12 of the Finance Act 1976.

Lorry Drivers

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what plans he has to relax restrictions on the number of hours that long-distance lorry drivers can work at any one time.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has received concerning the restrictions on the hours worked by long-distance lorry drivers.

I am in continual discussion with all sections of the road haulage industry on the subject of hours to be worked by long-distance lorry drivers.

Railways (London)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what requests he has received, or what investigations he has made, into the capital cost of extending the Great Northern electrification scheme from Moorgate, for approximately one and a half miles in new tunnels, to the south-eastern section of the Southern Region at Bricklayers Arms, with or without any new intermediate station.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what requests or submissions he has received from the British Railways Board, with its requests concerning the Moorgate-Bedford electrification, for electrification of existing rail routes in north London running between the presently distinct Great Eastern, Great Northern, North-Western, and planned Midland electrified routes, particularly between Kentish Town and Barking, and the five miles between Maiden Lane and Stratford.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what consideration has been given to diverting the proposed southern terminal of the Moorgate to Bedford electrification scheme from Moorgate (widened lines) to a terminal on Southern Region in south London, using the existing Snow Hill route and dual voltage stock.

The London rail study considered the possibility of through-running between north and south London. It concluded that such a project could only be recommended as a second order priority.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will place in the Library the calculations used by his Department, or any other, concerning the cost-benefit analysis of the Moorgate to Bedford electrification, and comparison with cost-benefit conclusions for investing similar sums in other electrification or improvement schemes in the Greater London area.

No; my Department's rôle is to examine the investment appraisal made by the British Railways Board.

London Underground (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will take steps to ensure London Underground and its staff are subject to the Health and Safety at Work Act 1974.

All employers and workers, including the London Underground, are already subject to this Act.

A45-A11 Intersection (Traffic Lights)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many vehicle and pedestrian movements he normally requires before installing traffic lights at intersections; what are the numbers of each at the junction of the former A45 and All on the Bury St. Edmunds side of Newmarket; and whether, since the opening of the Newmarket bypass and the detrunking of the two roads that meet at this point, the traffic lights there are needed.

Decisions on the installation of traffic control signals at intersections are based on a variety of factors and each situation must be considered on its merits. Traffic flow alone cannot be used to justify control, but minimum traffic figures have been drawn up for general guidance. For an intersection such as that mentioned the figure would be an average hourly flow, taking the four busiest hours of any weekday. of 300 vehicles entering the intersection from all directions, including a side road element of 100 vehicles.Where signals are justified, provision for pedestrians can be considered if turning traffic exceeds a rate of 700 vehicles per hour during the green period or the flow of pedestrians crossing any arm of the intersection exceeds 300 per hour.My Department has no traffic information for the junction in question for the period following the opening of Newmarket bypass. Any survey to determine whether the signals continue to be necessary would be for Cambridgeshire County Council to carry out, since it is now the highway authority for the bypassed sections of A11 and A45 within its boundary. The county surveyor has the matter under consideration.

Schoolchildren

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will issue a general direction to British Railways that concessionary rate season tickets for rail travel for school pupils between 16 and 18 years should be at half the adult rate.

Tyne And Wear Metro

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) if he intends to visit the Birmingham works of MetroCammell before reaching a decision on the Tyne and Wear Metro project, as suggested by the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr;(2) when he expects to reply to the letter from the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr sent to him on 1st November 1976 concerning the Tyne and Wear Metro project.

I have no plans at present to visit Metro-Cammell. I answered my hon. Friend's letter on 24th November 1976.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many civil servants in his Department concerned with the decision on the Tyne and Wear Metro project have visited the works of MetroCammell, Birmingham, in the past three months.

None, but I am well aware of the importance attached by Metro-Cammell Ltd. to a decision to continue with the project.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport who will be responsible for making the final decision on the Tyne and Wear Metro project.

It is for Tyne and Wear County Council, as the passenger transport authority for the area, to decide after taking account of any Government decision on whether grant assistance to the project should be continued.

South London

Q3.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Bonn

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister when he next plans to pay an official visit to Bonn.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Prime Minister (Guildhall Speech)

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place a copy of his public speech on the economy of 15th November to the Lord Mayor's banquet in the Library.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place a copy of his public speech to the Lord Mayor's Banquet on economic matters on 15th November in the Library.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech on the economy at the Lord Mayor's Banquet on Monday 15th November.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will place a copy of his public speech on economic policy at the Lord Mayor's Banquet on 15th November in the Library.

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place a copy of his public speech on the economy to the Lord Mayor's Banquet on 15th November 1976 in the Library.

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech at the Guildhall on 15th November about the economy.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech on the economy at the Lord Mayor's Banquet on 15th November.

Q42.

asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his public speech at the Lord Mayor's Banquet on 15th November 1976 on the economy.

I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. and right hon. Members and my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Conway (Mr. Roberts).

European Assembly

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if he will appoint a Minister to have overall charge of matters relating to direct election to the European Assembly.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend is not aware of any difficulties arising from the present allocation of ministerial responsibilities, and at present has no plans to make changes.

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 30th November.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for 30th November.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 30th November.

I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member and my hon. Friends to the reply which I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Price).

Coventry

Q13.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Gosport

Q14.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Romford

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister whether he intends to make an official visit to Romford.

I have been asked to reply. My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Tuc And Cbi

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister when he next intends to meet the TUC; and if he will make a statement.

Q23.

Q24.

Q34.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend is frequently in touch with representatives of the TUC and the CBI, both at NEDC and on other occasions. Further meetings will he arranged as necessary.

European Community (Council Of Ministers)

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister when he next plans to attend the EEC Council of Ministers.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

West Yorkshire

Q19.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend hopes to visit Leeds on 3rd December.

Peterborough

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if he will pay an official visit to Peterborough.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Manchester

Q26.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

St Austell

Q27.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Louth

Q30.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

House Of Lords

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister whether the views on the House of Lords expressed by the Lord President of the Council on "Panorama" on Monday 22nd November, represent the policy of Her Majesty's Government.

I have been asked to reply.Yes. As my right hon. Friend has said, we shall keep the position of the House of Lords under review as events continue to unfold in Parliament and in the light of developing opinion in the country.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister if he will recommend to Her Majesty the appointment of 635 Labour life Peers.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has no present plans to do so.

Commonwealth Secretary-General

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister when he next intends to meet the Commonwealth Secretary-General.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend saw the Commonwealth Secretary-General on Friday 26th November. He has at present no plans for a further meeting.

Financial Institutions (Inquiry)

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if he is now in a position to name the other members of the committee to investigate City institutions of which the right hon. Member for Huyton (Sir H. Wilson) is to be chairman.

Transport Policy

Q36.

asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied with the co-ordination between the Department of Transport and the Department of Trade in implementing a co-ordinated transport policy.

Gravesend

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if he will pay an official visit to Gravesend.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Chancellor Of The Exchequer

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister if he will dismiss the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Caernarvon (Mr. Wigley) on 29th November.

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister whether the public statements on economic policy by the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his interview on BBC Radio Leeds on 6th November represent Government policy.

Town Planning (City Centres)

Q41.

asked the Prime Minister if the statements about inner city areas made by the Secretary of State for the Environment on the "Weekend World" television programme on 14th November represent Government policy.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend gave in this interview a very clear exposition of the problems of the inner city and of some of the options for public policy which need to be considered. It is right that such major questions of social policy should be brought before the public in this way.

Caracas Metro Project

asked the Prime Minister if, in his recent discussions with the President of Venezuela, he raised British participation in the Caracas Metro project.

Yes. The President of Venezuela also had separate discussions with the British companies interested in participating in the Caracas Metro project. The President welcomed the British interest in this and other major projects in Venezuela.

Cabinet Documents (Security)

asked the Prime Minister whether he has any further statement to make about the action which he announced on 1st July in relation to the rules for handling Cabinet documents and to inquiries into the child benefit leak.

The Committee of Privy Counsellors established under the Chairmanship of Lord Houghton has submitted its report on Cabinet document security, and it is being published today as a White Paper. I am grateful to them for the speed and thoroughness with which they completed their task.The report does not propose any radical changes in existing rules and procedures, but it makes a number of recommendations for their improvement and for tighter control. The Government have broadly accepted the report, and consideration is being given to the detailed implementation of its recommendations.The investigation by the police in the child benefit disclosure was carried out by senior officers from Scotland Yard, but, despite exhaustive inquiries, the source of the disclosure has not been discovered. In the light of their investigation the police were, however, able to provide some assistance to the Houghton Committee in framing their recommendations.

Social Services

Self-Employed Persons

15.

asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services whether he will seek to amend Section 2 of the Social Security Act 1975 so that persons who are both employed and self-employed would not need to pay national insurance contributions in respect of their self-employment.

No. In an earnings-related system, where an earner has more than one employment, it is right that the contribution liability should take account of each.

Heating Allowances

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is satisfied with the level of heating allowances provided by his Department.

The supplementary benefit scale rates, which were uprated on 15th November, are intended to cover normal heating requirements. Additional payments to meet extra heating needs are made under the Supplementary Benefits Commission's discretionary powers, and these were increased at the same time, by over 25 per cent., to take account of increases in fuel prices.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will review the fuel allowances for pensioners in view of the many pensioners who find it impossible to pay fuel charges.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. Canavan) earlier today.

National Health Service (Expenditure)

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the reduction in expenditure on the NHS in 1977–78 in real terms.

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the reduction in expenditure on the NHS in 1977–78 in real terms.

None. In the last White Paper (Cmnd 6393) expenditure on the NHS was planned to increase in real terms in 1977–78. The measures announced in July will not affect current services to patients.

Hospitals

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many hospitals of national standing and importance are to be closed as a result of cuts in Government expenditure.

The funds available for health authority services in England have increased in real terms from year to year. Suggestions for the closure of hospitals are, however, brought forward by health authorities for a variety of reasons. Authorities are required to submit to my Department, by early next year, plans for the rationalisation and development of their services over the next 10–15 years, and these plans are currently the subject of local consultations. Suggestions made in the plans are not firm proposals for immediate action, but are options which need further study. This early consultation gives a full opportunity for the possibilities to be discussed, not only by the authorities concerned but also by the public and staff who would be affected.

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy with regard to the maintenance of community hospitals and the smaller local hospital facilities, in the light of current public expenditure plans.

My policy is set out in the consultative document on priorities for health and personal social services in England which described the provision of district general hospitals, supported by smaller hospitals called community hospitals, to cater for patients who do not need or who no longer need the specialised services of a district general hospital.

Medical Records (Ownership And Storage)

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make a statement about current arrangements governing the ownership and storage of personal medical records and X-ray photographs.

Personal medical records, including X-rays, in respect of patients treated under the NHS are held to be the property of the Secretary of State. NHS hospital medical records are stored in premises designated by the appropriate health authority. Access to a patient's medical records is governed in the patient's interest by the ethics of the medical and allied professions.

Children And Young Persons Act 1969

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress his Department has made in implementing the recommendations contained in the Eleventh Report of the Expenditure Committee on the working of the Children and Young Persons Act 1969.

The Government's response to the Expenditure Committee's recommendations was given in the White Paper published last May (Cmnd. 6494). Among proposals which are primarily the concern of my Department, consultation is far advanced on first steps towards ending the remand of young people to prison department establishments, priority is being given to secure accommodation building projects, and we are making a major effort to encourage the development of non-residential forms of care. As my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary explained in his reply on 18th November—[Vol. 919, c. 1558]—consultalions about the establishment of new national consultative machinery are proceeding.

Chronically Sick And Disabled Persons Act 1970

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on progress in implementing the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act.

The latest information available to me indicates that there has been further substantial progress in the past year. The provisional total number of people registered as permanently and substantially handicapped in England on 31st March 1976 was 854,000, representing a net increase of 88,000 over the previous year. The figure of 854,000 on the registers on 31st March 1976 compares with 405,000 when the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Bill received the Royal Assent in 1970. The estimated number of households helped under Section 2 of the Act was 300,000 last year, an increase of 67,000 over the previous year.These returns do not, of course, represent the only criteria for measuring progress in implementing the Act. As my hon. Friend knows, the Act is very wideranging in its concern with the rights and needs of disabled people. The general improvement that there has been in public attitudes to disabled people since the Act became law is also reflected in, for example, the fact that the number of younger disabled people unsuitably accommodated in institutions has fallen significantly during the past few years. Another example is the much increased attention now given to solving the problems for disabled people of gaining access to public and social buildings of all kinds. The considerable change in public attitudes to the disabled in the past few years is enabling more and more disabled people to participate in those aspects of social life which able-bodied people take for granted.

Students (Unemployment Benefit)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to encourage young men and women to receive training by enabling recipients of unemployment benefit who become full-time students to continue to receive that unemployment benefit; and if he will make a statement.

To be entitled to unemployment benefit a person must show that he is available for employment. A person on a full-time course of education is unlikely to satisfy this condition in term time and would not, therefore, qualify for unemployment benefit. I have no proposals to alter this position.

Elderly Persons (Unemployment Benefit)

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many representations he has received since 20th July 1976 on the subject of male unemployment benefit to persons between the ages of 60 and 65 years.

Tanya Price (Medical Records)

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further steps he intends to take to make available to the parents and medical adviser of Tanya Price, of Christchurch, her medical records; why the availability of those records is still withheld from Mr. and Mrs. Price; and under what circumstances parents have the right to see the medical records of their infant children.

A disclosure of all or part of a child's medical records to its parents or guardian is at the sole discretion of the clinician in charge of the case. The Dorset Area Health Authority is urgently pursuing the possibility of disclosing Tanya's hospital and clinic records to a medical adviser nominated by her parents. I understand that the agreement of the clinicians concerned in the case is still awaited. The hon. Member will now have received my further letter about this dated 26th November; and I am glad recently to have had an opportunity of discussing Tanya's case with him.

Hearing Aids

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the phasing in of the new National Health Service behind-the-ear hearing aid.

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress he is making with the supply of the new NHS hearing aid; and how many people he finally expects to benefit from its supply.

The first of the new aids was issued in November 1974, and the phasing-in programme should be completed in 1979. From September 1975 the initial priority groups were extended to include people in employment and students, with local discretion for individual cases of need. We intend to make the aid available during the next three years to people who are outside the present priority groups.I am consulting my advisory committee on services for hearing-impaired people about possible methods of determining priority sub-categories within the overall and very large category of elderly hearing-impaired people who have still to be phased in to the programme. The rate of issue of the new aid has steadily increased since it was first introduced, and the number of aids issued in Great Britain up to the end of September 1976, the latest month for which figures are available, was 146,000.It was originally expected that up to 1 million aids might be issued in the five-year period, but it is not possible to do more than broadly estimate the ultimate number of beneficiaries. The estimate of 1 million was intended to represent the peak number of the new aids on issue at any time and would include many people currently not wearing hearing aids.

One-Parent Families

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now introduce a special social security benefit for one-parent families.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Welwyn and Hatfield (Mrs. Hayman) on 27th October.—[Vol. 918, c. 287–8.]

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the progress of implementation of the recommendations of the Finer Report in so far as they affect his Department.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Rochdale (Mr. Smith) on 26th October—[Vol. 918, c. 111–12.]—to which I can now add that the increase in the earnings disregard from £4 to £6 net for one-parent families receiving supplementary benefit and that the uprating of benefits in general came into effect in the week of 15th November.

Infant Mortality

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends taking further action to help reduce the infant mortality rate.

I would refer the hon. Member to my replies to my hon. Friend the Member for Eccles (Mr. Carter-Jones) on 27th October and 15th November.—[Vol. 918, c. 293–5; Vol. 919, c. 410–16.]

Psychiatric Patients

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he intends to introduce further legislation to strengthen the rights of patients in psychiatric hospitals.

The consultative document "A Review of the Mental Health Act 1959" published in August includes discussion of issues relating to the rights of patients. In the light of the comments on the document we hope to publish a White Paper next year setting out our proposals for changes to the Act, with a view to amending legislation as soon as practicable thereafter.

Regional Health Authorities

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he has taken or proposes to take to implement the recommendations of the regional chairmen's inquiry into the working of the DHSS in relation to regional health authorities.

In July I set up a group chaired by the Permanent Secretary of my Department and including the three regional chairmen who conducted the inquiry, to advise on what action should be taken on the proposals made in the inquiry. There will shortly be discussions of the results of the group's work so far with, among others, the chairmen of all the regional health authorities and with staff representatives concerned.

Prescriptions

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will enter into consultations with the medical profession to establish a code of practice for repeat prescriptions.

I am not satisfied that a code of practice would be appropriate. Guidance on the quantities of medicines to be prescribed at any one time, and on the special problems of patients with long-standing complaints, was issued in 1960 following the report of the Hinchliffe Committee. Subject to that advice, each doctor needs to decide how to comply with his obligations in the light of his professional judgment according to the needs and circumstances of each patient.

Departmental Staff (Overtime Ban)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to overcome the overtime ban being operated in his Department.

There has been frequent contact with the two unions, the Civil and Public Services Association and the Society of Civil and Public Servants. The latter has withdrawn its ban and discussions are continuing with the former.

Nurses

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on unemployment among members of the nursing profession.

I understand that the latest Department of Employment figures show that there were 3,276 qualified nurses registering as unemployed in England in September 1976. These will include nurses seeking employment in the private sector. Posts are still available for qualified nurses in the NHS.

Pharmaceutical Industry

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether it is his policy to nationalise sections of the pharmaceutical industry.

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether it is his policy to nationalise sections of the pharmaceutical industry.

The Government have no plans to nationalise any section of the pharmaceutical industry.

Disabled Persons

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he has to make disabled people more self-sufficient in their own homes.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to my reply to the hon. Member for Morecambe and Lonsdale (Mr. Hall-Davis) today. The initiatives I mention in that reply must be complemented by other forms of help and my Department's consultative document "Priorities for Health and Personal Social Services in England" shows the importance we place on providing the wide range of help necessary to enable disabled people. where possible. to live in their own homes.

Thames Regional Health Authorities (Expenditure)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will

BenefitApproximate number of beneficiaries receiving "personal allowance"
In hospital on a day in—
June 1972Invalidity benefit17,000
November 1975Retirement pension, widow's pension, widowed mother's allowance 63,000
December 1975Supplementary benefit5,000

Child Benefit

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, whether he will make a statement on the proposed cuts by hospital authorities in the four Thames regional health authorities.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Members for Woolwich, West (Mr. Bottomley) and Ravensbourne (Mr. Hunt) earlier today.

Medical Consultants (Contract)

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress he is making in his negotiations on the new consultants' contract.

No negotiations on a new consultant contract are taking place at present, though informal discussions are continuing on aspects of the present contract.

Hospital Patients (Allowance)

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many permanent patients there are in the NHS in receipt of the £3.50 allowances.

I assume the hon. Member is referring to the amount of £3.05 which is the current rate of benefit payable, under the Social Security (Hospital In-Patients) Regulations, as an allowance for personal requirements to certain beneficiaries in hospital. The £3.05 allowance applies after a beneficiary who cannot be treated as having a dependant has been, or is treated as having been, in hospital for a year; this rate of benefit applies for the rest of his hospital stay, however long or short that may be. Supplementary benefit may be paid to certain hospital in-patients at this same rate. I regret that the information is not available in the form requested, but the following are relevant estimated figures:make a statement on the introduction of child benefit in April 1977.

I would refer the hon. and learned Gentleman to my right hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member for Rushcliffe (Mr. Clarke) on 26th October and my right hon. Friend the Chief Secretary to the Treasury's reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Leicester, South (Mr. Marshall) on 16th November.—[Vol. 918, c.112–14; Vol. 919 c. 501–6.]

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of the fact that the increase of 30p in child support for families with marginal tax rates of less than 50 Der cent., in his reply to the hon. Member for Leicester, South (Mr. Marshall) Offical Report, 16th November 1976, columns 501–6, represents an increase of only 5·6 per cent. in total child support for two-child families compared with April 1976, during a period of 15 Der cent. prices rises, whether he will be reconsidering the proposed level of £1₷50 child benefit in the light of prices in April 1977.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in the event of child benefit being increased for all children to levels above those envisaged by the Government for 1977–78, under what statutory authority the Government are empowered to reduce unemployment benefit for all children by amounts equivalent to such increases.

My right hon. Friend is empowered under Section 17 of the Child Benefit Act 1975 to reduce increases of unemployment benefit, and of other relevant national insurance benefits for children to such extent as he thinks appropriate having regard to any increase in the rate of child benefit. The power is exercisable by regulations, or by order if the change in child benefit coincides with an uprating of national insurance benefits.

Benefits (Republic Of Ireland Citizens)

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many citizens of the Republic of Ireland were in receipt of supplementary benefit on the latest known date.

This information is not available. I would refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Member for Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat) on 15th November 1976.—[Vol. 919, c. 408.]

Child Fostering (Boarding-Out Allowances)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report comparative tables showing the boarding-out allowances paid for foster children for each local authority in England and Wales for a sample of ages or publish a national minimum scale for such allowances.

Details of the boarding-out scales payable by each local authority in England and Wales are not available centrally. My Department has no power to impose minimum rates of boarding-out allowances on local authorities, but following meetings between the Department and representatives of local authorities the latter have agreed to consider whether simple and flexible guidelines could be recommended to their members for implementation, possibly on a regional basis, as soon as resources allow.

Psychiatric Rehabilitation Association

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has recently received any representations from the Psychiatric Rehabilitation Association.

The Director of the Psychiatric Rehabilitation Association has written to me and to my right hon. Friends on several occasions concerning the dispute between the management and staff of that organisation. The Director has been told that this is not a matter on which it would be right for my Department to intervene.

Hospital Waiting Times

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, what is the average waiting time for patients awaiting operations in NHS hospitals.

Current information on the average waiting time for patients awaiting operations in NHS hospitals is not available. The number of non-urgent cases awaiting admission to surgical specialties at 31st March 1976 was about 523,000. Of these 27 per cent. had been waiting for more than one year.

Retirement Age

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will introduce legislation to enable men who so desire to retire on pension at the same age as women are able to do so.

No. My hon. and learned Friend will be well aware of the cost and other reasons why we could not contemplate this.

Industrial Injuries

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the annual cost of benefits incurred on account of industrial accidents and industrial diseases.

Expenditure on industrial injuries benefits in the financial year April 1975 to March 1976 was £211 million made up as follows

£ million
Injury benefit39
Disablement benefits145
Death benefit23
Other benefits4

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many working days were lost in 1975 due to industrial accidents and industrial diseases.

From 3rd June 1974 to 31st May 1975, the latest period for which figures are available, there were 15·3 million days of certified incapacity, resulting from industrial accidents and prescribed diseases, for which injury benefit was paid.

Invalid Care Allowance

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on progress in implementing the new invalid care allowance for those who look after severely disabled relatives.

Invalid care allowance has been payable since 5th July 1976. Some 5,000 men and single women who remain at home to look after a severely disabled relative are now receiving this new non-means-tested benefit and the associated national insurance contribution credits. My Department con- tinues to seek opportunities to spread information about the allowance to those who might qualify.

Unemployment Benefit

50.

asked the Secretary ot State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the present levels at which unemployment benefit is paid.

The Government are satisfied that it is right to have carried out their commitment—which is, of course, statutory—to increase the levels of unemployment and other short-term national insurance benefits in line with the movement of prices.

Benefit Entitlement

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimates he has made of the number of those who are receiving more by way of social security benefits when out of work than when in work.

I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat) on 22nd November.—[Vol. 919, c. 975.] The available information does not enable reliable estimates to be made comparing the work and potential benefit incomes of the employed population generally.

Invalid Vehicles

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what discussions he has had with disabled drivers' organisations regarding the phasing-out of the invalid tricycle service.

Since the decision was announced on 23rd July—[Vol. 915, c. 2229–42.]—I have held meetings with representatives of both the Disabled Drivers' Association and the Disabled Drivers' Motor Club to explain its implications and to hear their views.

Occupational Pensioners

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he has to curtail availability of benefits for occupational pensioners.

I would refer the hon. Lady to the reply earlier today to the hon. Member for Cardiff, North (Mr. Grist).

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many men aged 60 years with occupational pensions who received unemployment benefit in 1975 were public sector pensioners; and how many of them had pensions over £25 a week.

I regret that this information is not available, since a central record of claims to benefit made by public service pensioners is not maintained.

Poverty

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further action he intends to take to deal with the problems of the poverty trap, and of the disincentives for some income groups now to seek work.

I am well aware of the problems of the poverty trap, and also that its worst effects are rare in practice. The Government cannot in present circumstances give priority to further measures to contain its actual effects. As regards disincentives for some income groups to seek work, I cannot at this stage usefully add to what I said on this subject in the House in reply to Questions on 26th October.—[Vol. 918, c. 255–8.]

Supplementary Benefit Appeal Tribunals

56.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is now ready to make a statement on his response to Professor Bell's report on supplementary benefit appeals tribunals.

A working party of officials, in consultation with the Council on Tribunals, has made good progress with a general review of the supplementary benefit appeal tribunal system, and an announcement about proposed changes will be made as soon as possible.

Office Of Population Censuses And Surveys

57.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what procedures exist to oversee the activities of the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys.

The Office of Population Censuses and Surveys is administered by the Director and Registrar General who is appointed by Her Majesty and personally exercises powers conferred upon him by Acts of Parliament. My right hon. Friend has some ministerial responsibility for the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys and approves any regulations which the Registrar General may make and exercises statutory powers over some of the statistical work. Other Ministers in the Department of Health and Social Security can act on his behalf, and I take a particular interest in OPCS matters because of their links with health and personal social services. As my right hon. Friend the then Prime Minister stated on 18th December 1969—[Vol. 793, c. 410–11]—the statistical divisions of the OPCS have been closely linked with the Central Statistical Office and the Director of the Central Statistical Office. The Registrar General, under the general direction of Ministers, guides the direction and programming of its surveys, censuses and statisctial work. Close links are maintained between OPCS and the General Register Office for Scotland. The policy requirements of social surveys undertaken by OPCS for other Government Departments are the responsibility for the individual Minister concerned.

Local Offices (Public Relations)

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will ensure that local officers of the Department of Social Services identify themselves personally in telephone conversations with social security claimants when asked to do so.

Several officers may be involved in processing a claim and officers change duties frequently, so it would be misleading to the public if an officer became linked with a particular claim. There is also the possibility that some claimants may subject officers and their families to harassment. In these circumstances, although officers are encouraged to give their names when requested, they are not required to do so.

Beneficiaries And Claimants

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he has made of the average number of clients of local authority social services departments in England; and if he will break this figure down into the appropriate categories.

I regret that information about the number of clients of local authority social services departments is not available centrally. However, other information about the services provided by social services departments is contained in Health and Personal Social Services Statistics for England 1975, a copy of which is in the Library.

Attendance Allowance

60.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of applications for constant attendance allowance are successful; of the unsuccessful how many appealed and go for review; and what is their subsequent success rate.

In the 12 months to October of this year 74 per cent. of initial decisions given on claims for attendance allowance were favourable. In the same period, 6,000 people whose claims had been rejected applied for review and of these 67·9 per cent. were successful.

Unemployed Persons

61.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many men and women capable of employment are now in receipt of social security benefit, having run out of time for receipt of unemployment benefit; and at what cost.

The total number of unemployed receiving supplementary benefit in August this year who were not in receipt of unemployment benefit was 730,000. The annual net cost of paying supplementary benefit to this number of people is of the order of £500 million. Separate figures are not kept on the number of people who have exhausted title to unemployment benefit compared with those who have never had title.

Birmingham And Midland Eye Hospital

62.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects a common waiting list to be set up at the Birmingham and Midland Eye Hospital.

Under the Health Services Act 1976 the Health Services Board is required to make recommendations to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State within six months on arrangements for establishing common waiting lists at NHS hospitals. It is too early to say when a common waiting list will be in effect at the Birmingham and Midland Eye Hospital.

Ambulance Services (Essex)

63.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the latest developments in the dispute affecting ambulance services in Essex.

I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Epping Forest (Mr. Biggs-Davison) earlier today.

Disabled Persons (Hospital Bed Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the weekly cost of a national health bed for the physically disabled.

I regret that this information is not available. Hospital costs are calculated by type of hospital, and the cost of treating patients suffering from specific diseases or conditions is not separately identified, except where treatment takes place in hospitals in which the beds are provided exclusively or predominantly for the use of a particular speciality—e.g. psychiatric, orthopaedic. Beds for physically disabled people are situated in various types of hospital, including acute hospitals, and are not separately costed.

Children (Community Homes)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the cost of keeping a child in a county home.

I assume the hon. Member is referring to the cost of keeping a child in a community home. The provisional average weekly cost in 1975–76 is £68. This figure does not include administration and field social work costs which cannot be allocated to specific services. and no account has been taken of parental contributions.

Pay Beds

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total revenue received by his Department from patients in NHS hospital pay beds in the last year for which figures are available.

The income from patients in NHS hospital pay beds brought to account by health authorities in England in 1975–76 was £19,630,726.

Post Offices (Rural Areas)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he has to remedy the inconvenience to pensioners and others in villages and rural districts arising from the frequent closures of rural post offices caused by low rates of pay to sub-postmasters; and whether he will make a statement.

A pensioner who is inconvenienced by the closure of a post office may nominate a friend or relative to draw his pension for him, or may choose to be paid four-weekly or quarterly by cheque. Matters relating to the management of sub-post offices are for the Post Office, and no doubt, if the hon. Member has any particular instance in mind, he will wish to get in touch with it.

Bedfordshire Area Health Authority

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) whether he will allocate more funds to the Bedfordshire Area Health Authority, due to its low position in the table of health authorities in receipt of Government funds, the amount of outstanding and urgent work required to be undertaken and the increased population trend in the county;(2) whether he will allocate sufficient funds to the Bedfordshire Area Health Authority to cover the building of two new operating theatres in South Wing, Bedford;(3) in the event of capital cuts affecting the projected transfer of gynaecology facilities from North Wing to South Wing, Bedford, whether he will consider providing funds to the authority to modernise the units in North Wing.

It is for the North-West Thames Regional Health Authority to determine financial allocations to Bedfordshire Area Health Authority. Its decisions on allocations for 1977–78 cannot be taken until the outcome of consultations on the report of the Resource Allocation Working Party and the total amount of money to be made available to the region in future years are known. Plans for new operating theatres and associated beds at the South Wing of Bedford General Hospital are being prepared with a view subject to the availability of resources to a start, in May 1978 and completion in 1981. Consideration is also being given to interim improvements at the North Wing.

Patients (Payment Of Doctors' Fees)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he has of the amount of revenue that would be raised if NHS patients were required to pay a 25 pence consultation fee for each visit to the doctor.

It is estimated that the average number of surgery visits is of the order of two-and-three-quarters per patient per year. On this basis, the additional gross revenue might be some £30 to £35 million a year in England. But the net revenue, after allowing for such factors as exemptions on income or other grounds, additional administrative costs, and any fall in the number of visits which might follow the introduction of such a charge, would be much less.

Family Allowances

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table comparing family allowances with average earnings or wages in each of the EEC member States and Sweden.

I cannot usefully add to the reply I gave to the hon. Member on 21st July 1976.—[Vol. 915, c. 515.]

Breast Cancer

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of women in the United Kingdom develop breast cancer registered in Great Britain from it.

In 1970, the latest year for which complete information is available, there were 19,952 new cases of female breast cancer registered in Geat Britain. In the same year, the number of deaths from breast cancer were 11,775 and female deaths totalled 313,243. These figures mean that about one in 20 women will in due course develop the disease, and about one in 30 of all women die from it.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated cost of making arrangements in the United Kingdom for screening women (a) over 40 years of age and (b) over 50 years of age for breast cancer; and, if all women over 40 years of age were screened, what saving in life might be expected due to the earlier discovery of the disease.

Our best estimate of the cost of providing in Great Britain a breast cancer screening service, consisting of annual X-ray mammography and clinical examination, is currently £60 million a year for women over 40, and £45 million a year for women over 50. This figure takes no account of the cost of additional biopsies. We are at present carrying out futher research into the cost of a breast cancer screening programme. The best estimates of saving of life suggest that with the full and continued application of all the methods of screening currently thought to be feasible there might be a reduction in mortality, with a saving of 1,200 lives a year.

Benefits (Review)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has any plans to review short-term social security benefits.

I would draw the hon. Member's attention to the Social Security (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill, which is due to come before the House on Second Reading later this week, and to our associated proposals concerning unemployment benefit for students in the short vacations.

Cervical Smear Tests

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the cost of arranging cervical smear tests for all women between 25 and 60 years of age; and how many deaths per annum it is estimated that this would save due to the earlier discovery of disease.

On the basis of 1975–76 figures the estimated cost of arranging one cervical smear test for all women in England and Wales aged between 25 and 60 would be about £40 million. No reliable estimate of the number of lives this would save is available.

Fluoridation

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his Department's best estimate of (a) installation costs and (b) the annual running costs of fluoridating all currently unfluoridated water supplies.

I would refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Bolton. East (Mr. Young) on 26th July.—[Vol. 916, c. 110.]

Drunkards

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many beds spaces in how many hostels are now available to provide suitable alternatives to imprisonment for drunkenness.

One experimental detoxification unit, St. Mark's House, Leeds, has been approved as a medical treatment centre for the purpose of Section 34 of the Criminal Justice Act 1972, for people who would otherwise have been charged with offences of simple drunkenness. This unit has 20 places and will be funded by my Department for a three-year trial period. A few more experimental centres are expected to open in 1977. The Department also supports 542 places in 48 hostels for alcoholics. Some of these hostels have liaison arrangements with the Probation and After Care Service for accepting convicted persons suffering from problems of addiction to alcohol and some take people who have been in prison.

Health Authority Meetings (Public Access)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will instruct regional and area health authorities not to use closed sessions to discuss officers' comments on audit reports.

Under the Public Bodies (Admission to Meetings) Act 1960, public bodies including health authorities may by resolution exclude the public from the whole or part of a meeting whenever publicity would be prejudicial to the public interest. I would hope that authorities would only choose to do so after careful consideration, but I would not wish to stipulate the circumstances in which they should or should not exclude the public.

Medical Consultants (Fees)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has yet completed investigation into the charging of fees by whole-time NHS consultants at Hammersmith Hospital.

No. A thorough study is being undertaken by the Area Health Authority (Teaching), from which I expect to receive a report after its December meeting.

Personal Incomes (Invalidity Benefits)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will compare the net incomes after tax and NI contributions where appropriate of a married man with two children whose gross income is £2,500 and £3,000 if it is comprised of (a) invalidity benefit, including full invalidity allowance, with the remainder unearned. (b) noncontributory invalidity pension and the remainder unearned, (c) if his earned income is equal to maximum invalidity benefit and the remainder is unearned. and (d) if all his income is earned(2) if he will compare the net incomes after tax and national insurance contributions where appropriate of a married man with one child whose gross income is £2.000, £2.500 and £3,000 if it is comprised of (

a) invalidity benefit, including full invalidity allowance, with the remainder unearned, ( b) non-contributory invalidity pension and the remainder unearned, ( c) if his earned income is equal to maximum invalidity benefit and the remainder is unearned and ( d) if all his income is earned;

(3) if he will compare the net incomes after tax and national insurance contributions where appropriate of a married man with no children whose gross income is £1,500, £2,000, £2,500, and £3,000 if it is comprised of ( a) invalidity benefit, including all invalidity allowance, with the remainder unearned, ( b) noncontributory invalidity pension and the remainder unearned, ( c) if his earned income is equal to maximum invalidity benefit and the remainder is unearned and ( d) if all his income is earned;

(4) if he will list the net incomes after tax and national insurance contributions where appropriate of a single man whose gross income is £1,500, £2,000, £2,500 and £3,000, respectively, if it is comprised of ( a) invalidity benefit, including full invalidity allowance, with the remainder unearned, ( b) non-contributory invalidity pension and the remainder unearned, ( c) if his earned income is equal to maximum invalidity benefit and the remainder is unearned and ( d) if all his income is earned.

I regret that the information is not readily available and could only be assembled at disproportionate expenditure of time and effort.

Earnings Rule

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now provide the information promised in his answer to the hon. Member for Wallasey on 8th November, Official Report. column 64, on the cost to the National Insurance Fund of abolishing the earnings rule for wives of retirement pensions, who do not have a pension in their own right, and for the wives of invalidity pensioners.

I am sorry that it has taken some time to obtain the information promised in my reply to the hon. Lady's Question on 8th November. The annual cost to the National Insurance Fund of abolishing the earnings rule, over and above the £50 limit, for wives of retirement pensioners who do not have a pension in their own right, and for the wives of invalidity pensioners, would be about £25 million, split roughly equally between the two groups.

Disablement Benefits

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will list the disablement benefits administered by his Department and indicate in each case which are taxable and which are non-taxable.

The benefits for impairment or for handicap, including short-term or long-term incapacity for work, administered by my Department are listed below. Increases for wives and/or children are payable with some of the benefits, and these are not shown separately.

  • Attendance allowance
  • Mobility allowance
  • Sickness benefit
  • Invalidity benefit
  • Non-contributory invalidity pension
  • Industrial injury benefit
  • Industrial disablement benefit
  • Increases paid with industrial disablement benefit:
    • Special hardship allowance
    • Hospital treatment allowance
    • Constant attendance allowance
    • Exceptionally severe disablement allowance
    • Unemployability supplement
  • Allowances under the Pneumoconiosis, Byssinosis and Miscellaneous Diseases Benefit Scheme
  • Allowances under the Workmen's Compensation (Supplementation) Scheme
  • War disablement pension
  • Increases paid with war disablement pension:
    • Allowance for lowered standard of occupation
    • Additional treatment allowance
    • Constant attendance allowance
    • Severe disablement occupational allowance
    • Exceptionally severe disablement allowance
    • Unemployability supplement
    • Age allowance
    • Clothing allowance
    • Comforts allowance
    • Education allowance
In addition disabled persons may be entitled to supplementary benefits which would be calculated in the light of any special needs and, in the case of the blind, assessed on the basis of a preferential scale of requirements. Supplementary benefit is not taxable.

Hospital Closures

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the number of hospitals closed in each area health authority in the last three years.

, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 19th November 1976; Vol. 919, c. 792] gave the following information:The number of hospitals closed by each area health authority in the last three years is shown in the following table:

NUMBERS OF HOSPITALS CLOSED DURING THE LAST THREE YEARS
Northern Regional Health Authority
Cleveland Area Health Authority3
Cumbria Area Health Authority2
Durham Area Health Authority1
Northumberland Area Health Authority1
Gateshead Area Health AuthorityNone
Newcastle upon Tyne Area Health Authority (Teaching)None
North Tyneside Area Health AuthorityNone
South Tyneside Area Health Authority2
Sunderland Area Health AuthorityNone
Yorkshire Regional Health Authority
Humberside Area Health Authority2
North Yorkshire Area Health Authority2
Bradford Area Health Authority1
Calderdale Area Health AuthorityNone
Kirklees Area Health Authority2
Leeds Area Health Authority (Teaching)1
Wakefield Area Health Authority3
Trent Regional Health Authority
Derbyshire Area Health Authority1
Leicestershire Area Health Authority1
Lincolnshire Area Health Authority2
Nottinghamshire Area Health Authority (Teaching)1
Barnsley Area Health Authority2
Doncaster Area Health AuthorityNone
Rotherham Area Health Authoritynone
Sheffield Area Health Authority (Teaching)1
East Anglia Regional Health Authority
Cambridgeshire Area Health Authority (Teaching)3
Norfolk Area Health Authority1
Suffolk Area Health Auhority1
North-West Thames Regional Health Authority
Bedfordshire Area Health AuthorityNone
Hertfordshire Area Health AuthorityNone
Barnet Area Health Authority2
Brent and Harrow Area Health AuthorityNone
Ealing Hammersmith & Hounslow Area Health Authority (Teaching)None
Hillingdon Area Health AuthorityNone
Kensington Chelsea and Westminster Area Health Authority (Teaching)1
North-East Thames Regional Health Authority
Essex Area Health AuthorityNone
Barking and Havering Area Health Authority1
Camden & Islington Area Health Authority (Teaching)5
City and East London Area Health Authority (Teaching)2
Enfield & Haringey Area Health AuthorityNone
Redbridge & Waltham Forest Area Health AuthorityNone
South-East Thames Regional Health Authority
East Sussex Area Health Authority3
Kent Area Health Authority1
Greenwich & Bexley Area Health Authority4
Bromley Area Health Authority2
Lambeth, Southwark & Lewisham Area Health Authority (Teaching)3
South-West Thames Regional Health Authority
Surrey Area Health Authority6
West Sussex Area Health AuthorityNone
Croydon Area Health AuthorityNone
Kingston & Richmond Area Health Authority1
Merton, Sutton & Wandsworth Area Health Authority (Teaching)1
Wessex Regional Health Authority
Dorset Area Health AuthorityNone
Hampshire Area Health Authority (Teaching)5
Wiltshire Area Health AuthorityNone
Isle of Wight Area Health Authority1
Oxford Regional Health Authority
Berkshire Area Health Authority2
Buckinghamshire Area Health Authority1
Northants Area Health Authority1
Oxfordshire Area Health Authority (Teaching)None
S. Western Regional Health Authority
Avon Area Health Authority (Teaching)2
Cornwall & Isles of Scilly Area Health AuthorityNone
Devon Area Health Authority6
Gloucester Area Health Authority2
Somerset Area Health AuthorityNone
W. Midlands Regional Health Authority
Hereford and Worcester Area Health AuthorityNone
Salop Area Health Authority2
Staffordshire Area Health Authority1
Warwickshire Area Health Authority2
Birmingham Area Health Authority (Teaching)None
Coventry Area Health AuthorityNone
Dudley Area Health AuthorityNone
Sandwell Area Health AuthorityNone
Solihull Area Health AuthorityNone
Walsall Area Health AuthorityNone
Wolverhampton Area Health AuthorityNone
Mersey Regional Health Authority
Cheshire Area Health Authority4
Liverpool Area Health Authority (Teaching)1
St. Helens and Knowsley Area Health AuthorityNone
Sefton Area Health Authority3
Wirral Area Health Authority3
1970197119721973197419751976*
Full-time90,57995,44997,534102,368105,497107,989108,669
Part-time35,10135,61037,49840,72438,50045,36545,373
Total125,680131,059135,032143,092143,997153,354154,042
The reorganisation of local government, the local health services and the water industry in 1974 means that figures after that date are not strictly comparable with those for earlier years.

* Provisional. These figures do not include an additional 1,171 full-time and nine part-time employed under the job creation programme.

North-Western Regional Health Authority

Lancashire Area Health AuthorityNone
Bolton Area Health AuthorityNone
Bury Area Health AuthorityNone
Manchester Area Health Authority (Teaching)1
Oldham Area Health AuthorityNone
Rochdale Area Health AuthorityNone
Salford Area Health Authority (Teaching)None
Stockport Area Health AuthorityNone
Tameside Area Health AuthorityNone
Trafford Area Health AuthorityNone
Wigan Area Health AuthorityNone

European Community

Council Of Ministers

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many EEC Council of Ministers meetings there have been so far in 1976.

45 up to the end of November. Of these 12 were Foreign Affairs Councils; 12 Agriculture; 10 Finance (including Budget and Fiscal Councils); three Research; two Energy; two Development; one Joint Foreign Affairs/Finance; one Social Affairs; one Transport and one meeting, within the Council, of Education Ministers.

Wales

Local Government Staffs

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many persons are currently employed by (a) county, and (b) district councils in Wales, and in each year since 1970.

The following table gives the total number of local government employees in Wales in June of each year. Separate totals for counties and for districts are not available.

Education And Science

European Community (Action Programme)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress has been made in respect of R/263/76 and R/2085/75 concerning an action programme for education and education of immigrant workers' children as discussed in the House on 10th June last; and if she will now reconsider the first part of the reply of 17th November, Official Report, column 606.

Some progress has been made on most parts of the Action Programme set out in the Resolution of 9th February 1976 (R/263/76). The Education Ministers of the Nine met on 29th November to take stock of developments and to consider the report and the draft Resolution to which I referred in my answer of 8th November to a Question by my hon. Friend—[Vol. 919, c. 22]—Consideration of an instrument on the education of migrant workers' children (R/2085/75) is continuing and will be on the agenda of a meeting of the Council (Social Affairs) on 9th December.No proposals for regulations on education have been made.

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is her latest estimate of the cost per child of a school lunch.

Teaching Inspectorate

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the current number of vacancies in Her Majesty's Teaching Inspectorate.

Industry

Shipbuilding

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he intends to set a time limit for the acceptance of applications for shipbuilding construction grants.

Yes, my right hon. Friend is issuing a direction tomorrow under Section 11(10) of the Industry Act 1972 stipulating the time within which applications for grant shall be made. The direction will provide that grant shall not be made on a ship delivered before 1st December 1975 unless application on the appropriate form and with the requisite particulars and accompanying documents is received by the Department not later than 31st May 1977. For ships delivered in the year 1st December 1975 to 30th November 1976 the applications should be received by 30th November 1977. Thereafter until further notice, every application should be made not later than one year after the ship is delivered. We consider these limits give applicants adequate time in which to present their applications. Exceptionally, if the Secretary of State is satisfied that an application is delayed for reasons beyond the control of the applicant, consideration will be given to whether the late application may be accepted.A copy of the direction will be placed in the Library of the House.

Planning Agreements

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many British companies have made representations to his Department seeking to enter into negotiations in order to conclude a planning agreement.

Although the Government normally take the initiative in setting exploratory discussions in train, we have received various informal inquiries.

"Trade And Industry"

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many times in the past two years the products of Metro Cammell have been featured on the front cover Trade and Industry; and what was the reason in each case.

Twice: on 26th September 1975 and on 13th August 1976. Cover designs for Trade and Industry are chosen for their news value and relevance to the contents.

Energy

Productivity

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will publish for the United Kingdom and for other industrialised countries, the latest figures for(a) output per man-shift in coal mining, (b) kilowatt hours of electricity sent out per person employed in electricity supply and, (c) therms of gas sold per person employed in the gas industry.

The Statistical Office of the European Communities publishes figures of average output per man-shift underground in coal mining in member countries. The following are the latest available figures, expressed in hundredweight:—

Average output (cwt.) per man-shift underground
19751976 Sept.
Germany80·080·3
>France54·454·8
>France54·454–8
Belgium47·846·0
UK68·863·3
(Source—Eurostat Coal Press Notice 11–1976)Coal production in other member countries is small or nil, and no output per man-shift figures are issued for them. Figures on the same basis for other industrialised countries are not available.The other statistics requested are not available on a comparable basis for the countries concerned.

Organisation Of Petroleum Exporting Countries

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he plans to seek to join OPEC at an appropriate time.

Cavity Wall Insulation

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he consulted the Agrément Board on the drafting of his Department's Press advertisement entitled "Cavity Wall Insulation—the Facts"; what proposals for inclusion the Board made; and why he did not accept them.

The Agrçment Board was consulted. Its advice naturally concentrated on the significance of its certificates, and in particular proposed that the advertisement should include a reference to lists of holders of certificates being available from the Board. The Department of the Environment as sponsor of the Agrçment Board was also consulted. It considered that this approach was less than fair to installers who did not hold Agrçment certificates but who might nevertheless be competent. Accordingly, the advertisement was worded to make clear the legal position and the significance of Agrçment certificates, while not implying that only holders of those certificates could safely be employed.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy why his Departmental Press advertisement entitled "Cavity Wall Insulation—the Facts" did not list the names of insulation products in receipt of Agrçment certificates, but instead referred householders to the yellow pages of the telephone directory; and whether he will amend this advertisement in any further advice he gives to the public on insulation of houses.

The Press advertisement on cavity wall insulation which my Department featured as part of its "Save It" campaign in March 1976 was designed to provide unbiased information about cavity wall insulation. While it gave a very full description of the legal position and the significance of the Agrçment certificates in this field, it would have been wrong to imply that only holders of those certificates could safely be employed. My Department has no plans to repeat this particular advertisement in the development of its "Save It" campaign.

Union North Sea Group

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what progress has been made in participation negotiations with the Union Group.

On 29th November 1976 the Government and the British National Oil Corporation concluded heads of agreement on the basic terms for participation by BNOC with members of the Union North Sea Group in respect of their interest in the licence covering Block 2/5 in which the Heather Field is situated. It is intended that a fully-termed definitive agreement should be signed within 120 days.The Union North Sea Group consists of Unionoil (31·25 per cent.), Skelly Oil (31·25 per cent.), Tenneco (31·25 per cent.) and Norwegian Oil Company D.N.O. (6.25 per cent.).Under the agreement, BNOC will have an option to purchase, at market prices up to 51 per cent. of all petroleum won and saved from all commercial developments in Block 2/5. BNOC's purchase option will become effective in about 1980, with a nine months notice period.The agreement also provides for BNOC to become a party to the Block 2/5 licence and associated operating agreements and to have an effective voice in their operations.The terms of the arrangement fully satisfy the Government policy to achieve majority State participation in Block 2/5 while leaving the companies financially neither better nor worse off.

Advertising (Lighting)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he intends to continue restrictions on the use of advertising lighting.

The Electricity (Advertising Lighting) (Control) Order 1974 and the Electricity (Advertising Lighting) (Control) (Northern Ireland) Order 1975 lapse today, 30th November. From 1st December voluntary codes of practice will be established by four groups of trade organisations, comprising 27 trade associations, representing the main users and suppliers of advertising lighting-the Outdoor Advertising Council, theatre associations, associations covering cinemas and other entertainment venues, and the Retail Consortium. I am assured that the observance of these codes will result in savings at least as great as those achieved under the orders, and will help

Latest estimate of outturn 1976–77(b)£millionActual outturn 1975–76 £million
I. PRICE GUARANTEES (a)
Sheep0·27·5
Wool-1·12·0
Potatoes0·80·5
Total-0·110·0
II. OTHER GRANTS AND SUBSIDIES
Dairy Herd Conversion Scheme4·411·8
Beef Guidance Premiums1·80·6
Lime4·64·7
Calves28·661–6
Beef Cows11·88·1
Farm and Horticulture Development Scheme3·70·8
Farm Structure1·61·5
Farm Capital Grant Scheme61·871·8
Grants for Horticulture (National Schemes)2·83·4
Hill Livestock compensatory allowances(c})78·117·1
Hill Cattle1·2
Hill Sheep2·9
Winter Keep1·2

to promote the sensible and efficient use of electricity.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Animals (Experiments)

asked the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has on what happens to the 50,000 animals exported from the United Kingdom to laboratories abroad each year.

I have no information on this subject. My departmental responsibilities regarding the export of animals for laboratory purposes are limited to ensuring that they are transported from this country in a humane manner in accordance with the Transit of Animals (General) Order 1973.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of the latest estimate he has made of the cost in 1976–77 of expenditure by his Department and the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland under United Kingdom price guarantees and other grants and subsidies, together with comparable figures for the preceding year.

Following are the details of the latest estimates for the financial year 1976–77, together with the comparable figures for the outturn in the financial year 1975–76:

Latest estimate of outturn 1976–77(b)

Actual outturn 1975–76

£million

£million

Brucellosis Eradication Incentives16·018·4
Others3·24·2
Total218·4209·3
Grand Total218·3219·3

  • (a) Expenditure under the milk guarantee arrangements, together with the special additional payments, is estimated at £284 million in 1975–76 and £223 million in 1976–77. This expenditure is attributed to food subsidies.
  • (b) Of the estimated outturn for 1976–77, £15–5 million is expected to be financed from the Guidance Section of the European Guidance and Guarantee Fund, mainly in respect of the Hill Livestock compensatory allowances and the Dairy Herd Conversion Scheme, as compared with £4.4 million from the Fund in 1975–76.
  • (c) Some unavoidable delay in payments of hill livestock compensatory allowances in 1975–76 resulted in a carry-over of £16–4 million into 1976–77.
  • EXPENDITURE BY THE INTERVENTION BOARD FOR AGRICULTURAL PRODUCE

    Latest estimate of outturn 1976–77 £million

    Actual outturn 1975–76 £million

    Cereals29·746·2
    Beef and veal16·4113·0
    Pigmeat11·138·6
    Sugar33·541·2
    Herbage and field bean seeds1·51·5
    Hops1·12·1
    Processed products5·33·4
    Milk products27·561·8
    Others3·72·9
    129·8310·7

    Expenditure by the Intervention Board includes the beef premium scheme, refunds on imports and exports, certain production subsidies, aids for private storage and animal feed, the net costs of intervention buying, and the special import subsidies on sugar. Of the estimated outturn for 1976–77, £117.7 million is expected to be financed from the Guarantee Section of the European Agricultural Guidance and Guarantee Fund, the balance being financed from Exchequer funds; in 1975–76 £2596 million was financed from the EAGGF. Some of the expenditure shown above benefits consumers rather than producers.

    The reduction in expenditure in 1976–77 compared with 1975–76 is mainly due to the change introduced in May under which monetary compensatory amounts

    Intervention Expenditure

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give details of the latest estimate he has made of expenditure in 1976–77 by the Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce under Common Market organisations of the EEC, together with comparable figures for the preceding year.

    Following are details of the latest estimates for the financial year 1976–77, together with comparable figures for the outturn in the financial year 1975–76.on intra-Community trade are paid by the exporting country except for exports from Italy. The consumer subsidy on butter which is paid through the Intervention Board, is not included in the above table.

    Northern Ireland

    Prisoners (Christmas Parole)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he intends to implement the standard Christmas parole scheme for prisoners in Northern Ireland, during Christmas 1976; and if he will make a statement regarding its operation in previous years and the criteria used in deciding who is eligible.

    Active consideration is being given to the grant of the customary home leave for sentenced prisoners this Christmas. The Christmas parole scheme has operated satisfactorily in Northern Ireland for many years. During the past three years, for example, a total of 424 prisoners were granted Christmas leave all of whom honoured their parole.If operated again this year, the scheme will only apply to those prisoners, individually considered suitable by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State, who (

    a) have not served a previous prison sentence; ( b) have served two-thirds of their effective sentence; ( c) were committed to prison before 30th September this year; ( d) are favourably recommended by the prison governor.

    Special category prisoners satisfying these conditions who are in the last six months of sentence may also be considered.

    Coal Prices

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what consultations he has had with coal importers and coal merchants with the aim of keeping down the cost of coal to the domestic user in the Province.

    National Finance

    Social Security Payments

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now bring forward proposals to tax social security payments.

    Exports

    asked he Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he adheres to his forecast in April that the increase in exports for the first half of 1977 over the first half of 1976 will be nine per cent. and that this will be matched by an increase in imports of nine per cent.

    It is not normal practice to comment on past forecasts except when new forecasts are published. My right hon. Friend intends to publish forecasts in accordance with Schedule 5 to the Industry Act before the end of the year.

    Gilts

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what effect on the sale of gilts is produced by (a) the current rate for sterling, (b) the prospect of changes up or down in the rate and, (c) the prospect of changes in interest rates.

    Reactions in the gilt-edged market are determined by a wide range of influences. In so far as it is possible to make broad estimates of the impact of any one variable, this is only meaningful for changes in the specified variable rather than for its current level or rate. If the prospect of a sterling appreciation reflects improving trends in the domestic economy these same influences will probably also be helpful for sales of gilts by the authorities; conversely the prospect of a depreciation because of adverse domestic trends will tend to be unhelpful for gilts. The prospect of increases in interest rates, with an associated fall in gilt-edged prices, will tend to discourage the public from purchasing gilts; whereas the prospect of falling interest rates and rising prices will generally encourage such purchases.

    United States Treasury Secretary

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has any plans to meet the United States Treasury Secretary when he visits the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement on the purpose and outcome of such a meeting.

    I met Mr. Simon on Sunday 28th November. We discussed a wide range of matters of mutual interest.

    Statistical Services Directory

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will place in the Library a copy of the Government's Statistical Services Directory.

    I have been asked to reply.No; it is not normal practice to publish or place in the Library internal telephone directories. The Civil Service Year Book and the Guide to Official Statistics both list inquiry points in all the major areas of work in Departmental Statistical Divisions.

    Scotland

    Mentally Handicapped Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what guidance he has issued to chief constables in Scotland regarding police interrogation of mentally handicapped people.

    Local Government Staffs

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will list by district the number of staff in each district in the following salary ranges: (a) over £20,000, (b) £17,500 to £20,000, (c) £15,000 to £17,500, (d) £11,000 to £15,000 and (e) £8,650 to £11,000;(2) if he will list by region the number of staff in each region in the following salary ranges: (

    a) over £20,000; ( b) £17,500–£20,000, ( c) £15,000–£17,500, ( d) £11,000–£15,000 and ( e) £8,650–£11,000.

    A78 (Ardrossan)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has for resurfacing the A78 between Ardrossan Academy and Glasgow Street, Ardrossan, in the near future.

    Final reinstatement of recent statutory undertakers' excavations will be carried out within the next few weeks. Complete resurfacing of both carriageways is proposed as part of the annual trunk road maintenance programme for 1977–78.

    Trade

    Ussr

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what loan facility has been granted to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics for 1975, 1976 and 1977; how much of that facility has so far been taken up; and what has been the cost of that facility to date.

    In February 1975, a £950 million credit agreement was arranged with the USSR to apply to major capital goods contracts placed up to February 1980. The total value of contracts so far placed under this agreement is approximately £42 million. Two smaller facilities each for £10 million were arranged in 1975 relating to smaller contracts placed during 1976 and 1977. These have been little used to date. The cost of supporting business under these facilities varies according to the size and nature of the contracts and the terms and conditions applicable to those contracts.

    Accountancy (Current Cost System)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government towards the exposure draft of a current cost accounting standard; and whether he will make a statement.

    My predecessor, in a statement on 26th November 1975, announced the Government's general endorsement of the principles of current cost accounting as recommended by the Sandilands Committee, and the decision of the accountancy profession to set up a steering group, under the chairmanship of Mr. Douglas Morpeth, to study the detailed practical problems with a view to current cost accounting becoming the future basis for company accounts. The exposure draft of an accounting standard, which has been prepared by the Morpeth Group, is published by the Accounting Standards Committee today. This proposes the introduction of the system of current cost accounting for company accounts progressively from 1st July 1978.The Government reaffirm their support for the system of current cost accounting, and its desire that this should become the basis for the preparation of company accounts as soon as practicable. The Government have been consulted by the accountancy profession in the course of preparation of the exposure draft, and endorse the approach which the profession has taken. They agree that the accounting standard should apply to nationalised industries and other public trading entities, subject to any necessary adjustment to meet their special circumstances. The Government are giving separate consideration to the question of using current cost accounts for purposes of taxation and price control.I pay tribute to the success of the Morpeth Group in producing these proposals in so short a time. I do not doubt that all who are concerned for the welfare of British industry will use the exposure period to study the practical and other implications with a view to the effective and early implementation of current cost accounting.

    Overseas Development

    Pensioners

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development how far recent changes in the value of the £ sterling affect the pensions increases payable by Her Majesty's Government to overseas pensioners.

    At present these changes are taken into account in calculating the pension supplements payable to pensioners who served in countries now independent, but not to those who served in remaining dependencies. This difficult problem is being reviewed and meanwhile a regulation is being laid before Parliament to put a temporary standstill on the further pensions increases which would otherwise have become payable from 1st December on pensions payable in respect of service in the remaining dependencies. I shall of course have full consultations with the representatives of the overseas pensioners concerned before a new policy is settled.

    Voluntary Agencies

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what are the total sums allocated by his Department for the pound for pound scheme in the current financial year; and how much was allocated in 1975.

    Vote provision for the current financial year is £400,000. For 1975–76 it was £500,000.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development how much of the sum allocated for the pound for pound scheme was disbursed in 1975; how much has been confirmed for the current year; and how much is needed for schemes at present under consideration.

    £27,000 was disbursed in 1975–76. The current commitment for approved projects is £587,000, of which £320,000 is due for payment in 1976–77; £152,000 has been issued so far. Approximately £400,000 would be needed for projects under consideration.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development (1) whether he will publish in the Official Report those voluntary agencies which have (a) received funds and the amount involved and (b) have at present schemes under consideration by his Department, and the amount involved;(2) whether he will list in the

    Official Report the projects involving the pound for pound scheme of voluntary agencies, by agency and the nature of the projects involved and the total cost, and the agency and his Department's contribution which have so far been approved by him, indicating the progress made in each of the projects;

    (3) whether he will list in the Official Report the projects under the pound for pound scheme at present under consideration by his Department, indicating the voluntary agency concerned, the division of cost between his department and the agency and when he expects the decision for departmental support to be given.

    The information requested by my hon. Friend is set out in the following two tables which show, by agency, the projects approved and under consideration, together with their estimated cost and a statement of the allocation from public funds including, where appropriate, disbursements to the end of November.

    TABLE 1
    APPROVED PROJECTS

    Agency and Country

    Project

    Application dated

    Approved

    Total

    *

    ODM contribution

    Issues from ODM to 30th November 1976

    ???
    Beit Trust:
    RhodesiaTreatment Hall30th June 197624th September 197631,14515,572 (1 year)
    Britain/Tanzania Society:
    TanzaniaWorkshops for Village Craftsmen8th March 197610th May 197617,3178,657 (2 years)4,175
    CAFOD:
    PeruTraining of mentally handicapped adolescents for employment2nd February 197610th March 197612,5456,272 (1 year)6,272
    BelizeBroom manufacturing14th July 197627th September 197612,1506,050 (1 year)1,396
    ColombiaModel Farm14th July 197627th September 197615,251 (3 years)3,813 (1 year)
    Cheshire Foundation:
    KenyaGardens Project, Mombasa18th March 19763rd May 19763,0001,500 (1 year)
    Christian Aid:
    ZambiaFamily Farms30th January 19763rd August 1976†24,000Up to 12,000 (1 year)2,074
    MalawiYouth WeekMarch 1976May 197620,00010,00010,000
    RhodesiaHonde Technical College26th July 19768th September195,00026,500 (1 year)
    Commonwealth Society for the Deaf:
    NigeriaInstitute of Audiology, Ibadan23rd July 197629th September 197611,5005,750 (2 years)
    Council for World Mission:
    IndiaRural Health21st May 19764th October 19764,8662,433 (1 year)
    Friends of Urambo and Mwanhala:
    TanzaniaPoultry Unit and Day Care Centres(1)9th September 197512th January 197614,6807,340 (1 year)1,550
    (2)2nd October 1975

    Agency and Country

    Project

    Application dated

    Approved

    Total

    *

    ODM contribution

    Issues From ODM to 30th November 1976

    £££
    Friends Service Council:
    KenyaRhamu Centre, North-East27th August 197628th October 197610,000 plus5,000 plus (1 year)
    Help the aged:
    IndiaHandicrafts for old people22nd July 197622nd September 19763,1501,732 (1year)
    OXFAM:
    RhodesiaSt. Peters Community Development School.11th June 197531st July 19759,9744,987 (2year)2,287
    BurundiHospital Health Centre19th June 19754th August 197530,11115,056 (2year)11,220
    ChileWorkers Co-operatives‡29th July 197520th September 1975$119,235$45,00022,500
    SudanRural Development Centre, AmadiFebruary 1976February 197665,000 (3year)21,666 (2year)
    IndiaTamil Nadu Water Development18th September 1975 23rd December 197520,400 (5year)4,080 (2year)2,000
    BangaladeshSanitation Units10th May 1976 16th June 1976 (3years)246,210 (3year)103,755 (2year)48,888
    CaribbeanCADEC9th July 1976 3rd August 197675,577 (3year)25,442 (2year)
    EthiopiaChencha MCH12th August 197612th October 197614,0807,400 (1year)4,078
    Red Cross Society:
    BangaladeshHoly Family Hospital Red X Training school.May 1976May 197684,00042,000 (2year)5,753
    Save the Children Fund:
    BangladeshJamuna River Project4th December 197510th March 1976304,750 (5 year)64,700 (2 year)26,338
    EthiopiaCommunity Health and MCH11th June 197622nd August 197630,000 (2 years)8,750 for 1 year (£6, 250 in second year if we decide to continue)
    SudanRural Sanitation2nd July 197611th August 19766,5383,269 (2 year)
    Nepal MCH6th July 197613th September 1976156,53878,269 (2 years)

    Agency and Country

    Project

    Application dated

    Approved

    Total

    *

    ODM contribution

    Issues from ODM to 30th November 1976

    £££
    Sudan Interior Mission:
    EthiopiaTwo rural health projects2nd February 197626th March 197655,01226,194 (1 year)18,688
    TOC H:
    IndiaHealth Centre at Panickampatti4th September 197515th December 19753,0901,500 (1 year)1,000
    YWCA:
    IndiaLiteracy Project, Madras22nd July 197615th September 19763,3901,940 (2 year)

    * Total value of projects may include contributions from other sources and may also include support for longer than 2 years. ODM contributions are for a maximum of 2 years.

    † Held up by requests for further information and formal clearance in Zambia.
    ‡ Project cancelled by agency; advance to be refunded.

    TABLE 2
    PROJECTS UNDER CONSIDERATION

    Agency and Country

    Project

    Application dated

    Total cost

    ODM contribution

    ££
    Amazon Trust:
    PeruMedical Team Plus Clinics24th June 1976Revised application awaited.
    Christian Aid:
    Sierra LeoneAdult Literacy30th September 197630,000 (2½ years)15,000
    Church Missionary Society:
    PakistanMental Health25th August 197613,000 (2 years)6,500
    International Extentsion College:
    MaurititusMaurixfitius College of the Air10th November57,744 (2 years)7,000 (2 years)
    Methodist church:
    IndonesiaAnimal husbandry project at Nommenson University*23rd June 197632,543 (3 year)7,000 (2 year)
    Oxfam:
    IndiaFoundation for research in community health, Kolaba25th October 197616,686 (3 years)5,592 (2 years)
    EthiopiaSurface water programme in Tigre25th October 197634,500 (2 years)17,250
    HondurasGrain marketing operationsAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    HondurasPilot irrigationAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    ArgentinaAgricultural developmentAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    ArgentinaLand purchaseAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    BoliviaCocoa development and extensionAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    BoliviaAgricultural development, hostel and officesAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    BoliviaColonisationAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    BangladeshFerries and TugsAgreed in principle. Application awaited
    Yemen Arab RepublicGoat dairy24th August 197625,000 (3 year)11,337 (2 year)
    KenyaLake Kenyatta Settlement—mobile medical service25th October 197613,850 (1 year)6,925
    EthiopiaResettlement in Angar Gutin12th November 197643,509 (1 year)17,750

    Agency and country

    Project

    Application dated

    Total cost

    ODM contribution

    ££
    Save the Children Fund:
    ThailandChild care particularly in refugee camps19th November 197680,000(a year) plus £5,500 capital(3–5 years)80,000 (2 years)
    EthiopiaMCH, Tigre60,000 (2 years)19,000
    AfghanistanMCH12th November 1976141,100 (2 years)70,550
    War on Want:
    IndiaDairy Farm at Padhar*23rd April 197620,000 (2 years)10,000
    World University Service:
    NepalLiteracy Project†4th May 19762,276 (1 year)1,276

    * Awaiting further information from agency.

    † Awaiting formal clearance in Nepal.

    Note: Agencies may submit projects for approval in principle at an early stage with an estimated costing. Occasionally agencies withdraw application to redesign their projects.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development what is the average time taken in assessing a project put forward by a voluntary agency for assistance under the pound for pound scheme, indicating the longest and shortest time needed to reach a decision.

    The average time is nine weeks from the date of the official application. The longest time taken to reach a decision was 26 weeks; and the shortest one week.

    asked the Minister for Overseas Development whether he will publish in the Official Report the conditions laid down by his Department for voluntary agencies seeking assistance under the pound for pound scheme, indicating any alterations made in the scheme since its first inception.

    The conditions laid down for operating the Joint Funding Scheme are as follows:In general the intention is that my Ministry and the agency concerned should contribute equally towards the cost of a project. Although the rules governing the scheme are not rigid and can be modified in suitable circumstances, the criteria to be applied in assessing projects for joint funding include the following.

  • (i) Agencies' eligibility. To be eligible the agency must be a non-governmental, non-profit-making organisation, registered with the Charity Commissioners, and depending for its main income on public subscription and support. It must be able to provide evidence of its capacity to ensure the competent execution of the project for which it is seeking support (or give assurances of the capability of those actually carrying out the project), and of its ability to meet its agreed share of the financial and other obligations related to the project.
  • (ii) Project eligibility. The Ministry is prepared, subject to the qualifications listed in the remainder of this paragraph, to consider any project aiming to improve conditions for the poorest groups of people in a developing country. Projects must be developmental in character—e.g. funds would not be available under this scheme for relief and welfare projects or for the central administrative costs of societies. Projects which are innovative and which may be capable of replication will be given priority, particularly projects which stimulate the awareness of people in rural areas to the need for change, and which help to indicate how changes may occur. Projects to assist the lowest income groups in urban areas may also be considered. They must involve local people and resources to the maximum extent. They should develop local initiative and innovation, and directly assist those in low income groups with limited access to other sources of funds or expertise.
  • (iii) Project Cost. The Ministry will normally consider projects varying in total cost between £3,000 and £100,000. Similar or complementary projects may be submitted as a package to bring the cost up to the minimum level.
  • (iv) Criteria for considering projects.
  • (a) The objectives of a project should be realistic and attainable within limits of resources and time available.
  • (b) Projects already underway, and of proven usefulness, which require additional funds for replication and/or extension, would be eligible.
  • (c) Each project's cost, both capital and recurrent, its manning structure, the inputs needed, and the duration of external assistance should be clearly definable.
  • (d) Each project's economic and social benefits should be readily identifiable.
  • (e) Each project should be administratively viable, and those responsible for it should possess the necessary competence and experience to ensure its sound management.
  • (f) Where appropriate there should be an indication of how the project can be continued by local people, and what arrangements have been made for training local people where necessary.
  • (g) It should be acceptable in the country concerned.
  • (v) Other conditions. Grants are made for not more than two years in the first instance. The Ministry will only consider extending a grant beyond two years if the agency can show that increased benefits would result or that the project needs extra time to achieve its objective or if further development of the scheme seems justified. An additional grant, up to a maximum of 10 per cent. of the Ministry's contribution to a project, can be made towards the management and administrative costs incurred in the United Kingdom in carrying out the project.
  • It is a condition of any grant that the agency concerned will undertake to make six-monthly reports, and a final report according to guidelines supplied by the Ministry within three months of the termination of the Ministry's financial support.

    If required the whole of the Ministry's grant can be made available in local currency to meet local costs, but will otherwise be spent on British goods and services.

    The main changes in the scheme since its inception are an increase in the upper limit from £50,000 to £100,000 and the arrangement under which a number of small, but related, projects can be submitted as a package which would bring the total cost up to the minimum limit.

    National Finance

    International Monetary Fund Loan

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects to publish the terms of the IMF loan he is seeking including repayment and interest commitments.

    In accordance with past practice these will be published after the arrangements for the loan have been finally agreed.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he expects the IMF to impose performance targets as a condition to the loan he is seeking;(2)whether he will publish the detailed conditions to be set out by the IMF on economic and fiscal management.

    In accordance with Fund practice on standby arrangements, the formal letter of application by the United Kingdom for a standby will include a statement of the economic and monetary objectives and policies of Her Majesty's Government, quantified where it is appropriate. One of the purposes of the present consultations with the IMF is to reach a common understanding on these matters. The letter of application will be published as soon as it conveniently can be after the arrangements for the standby have finally been agreed.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he expects the negotiations with the IMF to be completed before 9th December and, if not, if he will seek an extension to the existing standby credit.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he proposes to seek parliamentary approval before accepting the terms of the IMF loan he is negotiating.

    I have nothing to add to what my right hon. Friend the Lord President told the House on 25th November.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish the report on the United Kingdom economy currently being produced by the IMF in collaboration with his officials.

    No. Such reports are documents of the International Monetary Fund and are always confidential.

    Schoolchildren (Travel Expenses)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to allow for tax relief a proportion of the cost of travel by rail to school for children up to 18 years who are unable to obtain concessionary rate season tickets because of their age.

    No. I do not think it would be right to single out this particular form of personal expenditure for tax relief.

    Standby Credit

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how he proposes to repay drawings under the central bank standby credit on 9th December.

    The repayment will be made out of the United Kingdom's foreign currency reserves.

    Tyne And Wear Metro

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if Her Majesty's Government's proposed financial guarantee for the Tyne and Wear Metro project has been discussed with the IMF.

    No. The details of particular projects are not matters for discussion with the IMF.