Written Answers To Questions
Monday 10th January 1977
Home Department
Political Associations
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation requiring political pressure groups, such as the National Association for Freedom, which are seeking funds from the public, to register as a charity, as a company or in some other way, so the public are aware of their full sources of funds, their executive members and officers and their objectives.
Any legislation would have to cover all political pressure groups and would require careful consideration.
Community Service
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he now expects courts in the Alnwick and Berwick areas will be in a position to make community service orders.
It will be for the Northumbria Probation and After-Care Committee to decide, in the light of the implications for probation expenditure of the rate support grant settlement for 1977–78, when it will be possible to extend community service arrangements to these areas.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in how many probation areas schemes of community service are still not available to all the courts in the area.
Community service arrangements do not yet exist in parts of 26 probation areas and in the whole of three others.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many community service orders were made in the first six months of 1976 by (a) Crown courts and (b) magistrates' courts;(2) how many community service orders were made during the most recent six months for which figures are available, by (
a) Crown courts and ( b) magistrates' courts.
1975 is the latest period for which figures are readily available from criminal statistics, and then only for the calendar year. These figures show that in England and Wales the number of persons in 1975 given a community service order for the principal offence dealt with at a court appearance was 764 by the Crown Court and 2,362 by magistrates' courts.As regards more recent figures, it has been estimated from four-monthly returns made by probation and after-care areas that the number of persons given a community service order for any offences in the eight months 1st December 1975–31st July 1976 was 1,454 by the Crown Court and 4,215 by magistrates' courts.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has for extending schemes of community service to those parts of the country in which they are not at present available.
It is for probation and after-care committees to consider how far it is possible to introduce or extend community service arrangements in their areas within the limits of the resources available to them. In present circumstances additional resources cannot be provided, but I hope that the committees concerned will make these arrangements wherever they can by reallocation of staff.
Acklington Prison
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what rental income he estimates to have been forgone by the leaving unoccupied during 1976 of the 142 houses currently unoccupied at Her Majesty's Prison, Acklington.
It is not possible to suggest a meaningful figure, since prison officers do not pay rent for quarters and, owing to the isolated position of the houses, it is unlikely that suitable tenants would have been found if they had been available for letting to members of the public.
Imperial College (Disturbance)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis regarding police handling of the disturbance at Imperial College on 12th December 1976 during a meeting of the Federation of Turkish Students in Great Britain.
The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis tells me that he has no record of a disturbance at Imperial College on 12th December 1976. The police were, however, called to the college following a disturbance on 5th December, when five students were injured. It was not possible to proceed with police inquiries, because the students were not willing to make statements or assist the police in their inquiries.
Prisoners (Sentences)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many prisoners on 15th October 1976
| PERSONS SERVING TERMS OF IMPRISONMENT BY SENTENCE LENGTH | ||||
| Number of Persons | ||||
| Length of sentence | As at 30th June 1975 | As at 31st October 1976 | ||
| Up to and including one month | … | … | 405 | 382 |
| Over one month, up to and including three months | … | … | 1,088 | 1,385 |
| Over three months, up to and including six months | … | … | 2,082 | 2,299 |
| Over six months and up to and including 18 months | … | … | 7,737 | 8,160 |
| Over 18 months | … | … | 14,824 | 16,132 |
| Total | … | … | 26,136 | 28,358 |
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department of those
| PERSONS SENTENCED TO IMPRISONMENT BY MAGISTRATES' COURTS AND THE CROWN COURT, ENGLAND AND WALES, 1975 | ||||
| By term of sentence | ||||
| Term of sentence | Magistrates' Courts | Number of persons Crown Court | ||
| Up to and including one month | … | … | 2,399 | 5,264 |
| Over one month and up to and including three months | … | … | 6,868 | |
| Over three months and up to and including six months | … | … | 6,092 | |
| Over six months and up to and including 18 months | … | … | 46 | 9,872 |
| Over 18 months | … | … | — | 6,617 |
| Total | … | … | 15,405 | 21,753 |
were serving sentences of ( a) up to one month, ( b) one to three months, ( c) three to six months, ( d) six to 18 months, ( e) 18 months and over; and what proportion of those in the first four categories would have been released at a previous date if a system of remission of half the sentence had been in operation;
(2) how many prisoners on an average day in 1975 were serving sentences of ( a) up to one month, ( b) over one month and up to three months, ( c) three to six months, ( d) six to 18 months and ( e) 18 months and over; and what proportion of those in the first four categories would have been released on a previous date if a system of remission of half the sentence had been in operation.
The information requested is not available for the dates specified. The following table gives the available information for 30th June 1975 and 31st October 1976.sentenced to imprisonment by the courts in 1975, how many were sentenced to (
a) up to one month, ( b) one to three months, ( c) three to six months, ( d) six to 18 months and ( e) 18 months and over.
The following table gives the information which is readily available.
Departmental Policy (Union Membership)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if it is his policy that the closed shop be introduced into his Department, if this is so desired by union membership.
Any proposals to introduce a form of union membership agreement into the Home Office would need to be considered in the context of the Civil Service as a whole. In the case of industrial civil servants, I understand that a request to negotiate such an agreement has been made by the Trade Union Side of the Joint Co-ordinating Committee for Government Industrial Establishments.
Parliamentary Questions
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what criteria he uses in assessing the value of information given in answer to a Question from an hon. Member and the cost of obtaining the information by his Department when refusing to provide information on the grounds of disproportionate costs involved.
I always try to give hon. Members the information for which they ask but where the cost is substantial I take this aspect into account together with such factors as the degree of public importance of the subject and any special interests of the House or of individual hon. Members.
Magistrates Courts (Fees)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the total income from fees charged under Section 112 of the Magistrates Courts Act 1952 for the most recent 12-month period for which figures are available.
This information is not available centrally, as fees are not distinguished and fines in returns made by justices' clerks. Sums involved are however relatively small, as fees for criminal business were abolished by the Criminal Justice Act 1967.
Prison Population
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list all those measures that he is currently considering for reducing the prison population.
I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdare (Mr. Evans) on 18th November.—[Vol. 919, c. 652–3.]
Heathrow (Detention Centre)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the daily cost to Her Majesty's Government of detaining in custody each person refused entry on arrival at Heathrow Airport and subsequently taken to a detention centre.
The daily cost of detaining a person at the Harmondsworth detention centre would be of the order of £13, assuming full occupancy. Not all of the detention costs are borne on public funds because carrying companies are liable for the cost of detention of passengers who arrive without an entry clearance or work permit and are sent away.
Prisons (Closed-Circuit Television)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total cost of operating closed-circuit television in prison service establishments.
The cost of maintaining closed-circuit television in prisons is expected to amount to about £60,000 in the current financial year. It is not possible to isolate other operating costs.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many persons are employed in operating closed-circut television in prison service establishments; and what is their total wage bill.
No person is wholly employed in operating closed-circuit television in Prison service establishments. There is a total of 30 senior officers and 109 officers employed on shift-work in emergency control rooms whose duties consist, only in part, of operating closed-circuit television.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list those prison service establishments that have closed-circuit television, indicating in each case what area of the establishment is surveyed and for what length of time; and what is the purpose of such surveillance.
There are closed-circuit television installations at the following prison:
- Albany
- Gartree
- Hull
- Long Lartin
- Parkhurst
- Wakefield
- Wormwood Scrubs
- Chelmsford
- Coldingley
- Durham
- Leicester
- Liverpool
- Reading
- Brixton
- Manchester
- Wandsworth
- Winchester
Overseas Visitors
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many visitors to the United Kingdom were refused entry on arrival, were subsequently released from detention on bail and ultimately failed to honour their bail conditions; and on how many occasions this has occurred over the last 12 months;(2) how many visitors to the United Kingdom were refused permission to enter the United Kingdom on arrival; how many had visas or Letters of Consent or entry certificates; how many entitled to appeal were granted bail awaiting their appeal; how many returned to their country of origin immediately on being refused entry; how many of the remainder were detained at the port or reception centre and for how long; and if he will provide this information itemised for the last three-month period.
During the 12 months period ended 31st August 1976 6,205 visitors were refused admission, of whom 1,875 were refused admission in the last three months of that period. The other information sought could not be obtained without disproportionate effort, but I can say that only a very small proportion of those refused admission as visitors would have arrived with an entry clearance.
Cypriots
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many Turkish and Greek Cypriots have been deported from the United Kingdom during the last four quarters; and what were the reasons for their deportation.
The available information is given below for deportation orders made under Sections 3(5) and 3(6) of the Immigration Act 1971.
| DEPORTATION ORDERS ENFORCED IN 1976 | ||
| Turkish Cypriots | Greek Cypriots | |
| Section 3(5)(a) (For breach of conditions) | 8 | 2 |
| Section 3(6) (Following court recommendations) | 8 | 1 |
| Total | 16 | 3 |
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the estimated number of Turkish and Greek Cypriots at present resident in the United Kingdom; and what is the estimated number in the United Kingdom (a) as refugees and (b) on a temporary basis.
Information in the form requested is not available. The 1971 Census recorded that about 64,000 citizens of Cyprus were resident in the United Kingdom at that time. During the period from 1971 to 1975 inclusive, about 5,000 citizens of Cyprus were accepted for settlement; the numbers admitted on conditions for various temporary purposes may be found in the annual White Papers in which the statistics of immigration control are published. It is not possible to distinguish refugees from others from Cyprus who were admitted to this country or had their stay extended in view of the special circumstances which arose following the emergency in Cyprus in 1974.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department against how many Turkish and Greek Cypriots deportation orders have been issued at present; and how many are held in prisons awaiting deportation.
The information given below relates to the number of deportation orders made in respect of citizens of Cyprus, but not yet implemented.
| Not detained | Detained in prison | |
| Turkish Cypriots | 42 | 3 |
| Greek Cypriots | 16 | 1 |
| Total | 58 | 4 |
Immigration
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will list the precise requirements for granting bail to holders of entry certificates and Letters of Consent who have been refused admittance to the United Kingdom, so that friends and relations and those representing refused visitors can clearly understand what is required, thus eliminating a multiplicity of journeys;(2) what instructions relative to the amounts or the character of bail sureties have been issued to immigration officers who act on the powers conferred by paragraphs 29(2) of Schedule 2 to the Immigration Act; and what are the conditions which necessitate a different approach being adopted by immigration officers as distinct from the police.
I regret that instructions to the Immigration Service as to the conditions on which bail may be granted to appellants under the Immigration Act 1971 are confidential. I hope, however, it will be of assistance to my hon. Friend if I explain that I do not think it would be helpful to attempt to lay down precise criteria on this matter for the guidance of prospective sureties, because the requirements vary according to the circumstances of the individual case. I am not aware that there is a divergence of approach between the Immigration Service and the police; it is of course necessary to have regard to the financial standing of the surety and whether he stands in such proximity to the person concerned as to be likely to be able to exercise some control over him.
Girls (Remands To Prison)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to make the order ending the remand of 14-year-old girls to prison service establishments.
A draft of the order has to be laid before both Houses of Parliament, and I intend to do so on 18th January.
Sex Discrimination Act
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on the first year's working of the Sex Discrimination Act; what has been the total costs involved; how this money has been used on wages, salaries, expenses, etc.; what was the number of cases dealt with and the number of successes; what these cost on average per case; and whether, in view of the Government call for economy, he will take steps to reduce the costs of this Act.
The Equal Opportunities Commission, which has a statutory duty to keep under review the working of the Sex Discrimination Act, will shortly be publishing its first annual report, which will cover these matters. I shall arrange for a copy to be sent to my hon. Friend. I have no plans to reduce the grant to the Equal Opportunities Commission in the current financial year.
Police (Pay)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the estimate made for expenditure on police forces' pay in 1975–76; and what was the actual amount spent.
The estimated expenditure on pay for police officers in forces in England and Wales for 1975–76 was £346,722,000. The provisional figure for actual expenditure is £412,033,000. The difference between the two figures reflects a combination of growth in numbers and the effect of the September 1975 pay award.
Energy
Windscale (Accidents)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he can now state the number of accidents which have taken place at Windscale since it first came into production.
I am advised that, prior to April 1971, two incidents were reported by the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority to the responsible Minister under a direction requiring the reporting of incidents given by the Lord President of the Council dated 31st January 1957, and a further direction on safety requirements by the Minister for Science dated 1st April 1960. When British Nuclear Fuels Ltd took over responsibility for the Windscale works in April 1971, the site became subject to licensing under the Nuclear Installations Act 1965. Under this Act reporting requirements are defined in the Nuclear Installations (Dangerous Occurrences) Regulations 1965 and in the conditions attached to the nuclear site licences. No reports in respect of Windscale have been made under the regulations. Twenty-five incidents have been reported to the Nuclear Installations Inspectorate under the licence conditions, which cover a wide range of incidents of lesser significance than those reportable under either the regulations or the directions referred to above. The incidents reported under the licence conditions involved cases of contamination and radiation exposure which exceeded prescribed levels. None of them is believed to have caused any significant risk of harm to any person. I have given instructions that in future I shall be immediately informed when incidents, however apparently insignificant, occur on nuclear installations for which I am answerable to the House.
Gas Explosions
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will order an inquiry into recent gas explosions; and if he will make a statement.
I have set up, in conjunction with Sir Denis Rooke, Chairman of the British Gas Corporation, a three-man inquiry under the chairmanship of Dr. P. J. King to investigate all the circum- stances surrounding the recent series of explosions involving gas. The report will be presented to Parliament and published as soon as possible.The terms of reference of the inquiry are as follows:
Power Plant
25.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on the electrical power plant industry.
As my hon. Friend is aware, Ministers are currently considering the problems of the industry in the light of the CPRS Report.
Thermonuclear Fusion
asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he expects agreement on the site for the European thermonuclear fusion research project; and if work now proceeding at Culham would continue to receive his support at the projected levels if no joint European programme is agreed.
With the exception of the Joint European Torus, the Community five-year fusion programme 1976–80 was agreed by the Council of Ministers (Research) on 15th February 1976, when funding for 1976 was released: funding for the last four years was released by the Council on 18th November. The ongoing work at Culham forms part of the agreed programme. We will endeavour to secure the earliest possible agreement on the JET project and its site when we assume the Presidency of the Council in January 1977, but I cannot forecast when a consensus will be reached.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if contracts for preliminary research work on the joint European thermonuclear fusion project, now under way at Culham, will be renewed, pending a decision on the future of a collaborative programme.
The Commission has proposed a supplementary agreement to extend the JET design agreement for a further period. This would permit preliminary work to continue. The United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority is ready to sign the supplementary agreement.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on the reasons why the meeting of EEC research Ministers has been adjourned without an agreement on the siting of the joint European thermonuclear fusion project.
The Council of Ministers (Research) which was planned for 20th December 1976 was cancelled by the President of the Council on 17th December, after consultations with member States because he judged that there was no chance of agreement this year on the site for the joint European thermonuclear fusion project.
Electricity Prices
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is his Department's estimate of the likely increase in electricity prices that might result from the advancement of completion of the Drax B power station as recommended by CPRS; and on what assumptions his estimate is made.
The additional costs of advancing Drax B would vary according to the rate of growth in electricity peak demand and other factors. The effect on prices over the next few years could range from negligible to about 4 per cent.
Coal Reserves (Wales)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what proportion of the United Kingdom's known reserves of recoverable coal lies in Wales.
The proportion is 25 per cent., but the proportion that would be economically recoverable, under current market conditions and using present mining techniques, is lower at 8 per cent.
Standby Generators
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what estimates he has made of the number of standby generators currently held by industrial firms in the United Kingdom; and what consideration he has given to permitting the use of these at peak periods of demand for electricity.
The most recent estimate of the number of firms with stand-by generating sets and of the total installed capacity is given in Business Monitor M11, which is available in the Library of the House. The figures relate to April 1975, and show that 7,222 firms possessed standby sets with a total capacity of 1·55 GVA. An additional 76 MVA was on order. The use of such sets for the public system at periods of normal peak demand, as opposed to periods of emergency, is a matter for commercial negotiation between the owner of the set and his local electricity board.
Natural Gas (Conversion Programme)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what areas have been converted to natural gas; which areas remain to be converted; and when he expects the entire programme to be completed.
I am informed by British Gas that it has completed its conversion programme in England and Wales and that 83 per cent. of the Scottish programme had been completed at the end of 1976. The balance of the latter programme includes 140,000 customers in Aberdeen, Edinburgh, Glasgow and Inverness, and the latest estimate for completion is September 1977.
North Sea Gas
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the estimated cost of a gas-gathering network in the North Sea; and how much money has been spent on this pipeline study, and on alternative studies such as on gas production platforms.
The WilliamsMerz study estimated that their preferred gas gathering system would cost some £1·6 billion. No other gas gathering studies have been commissioned by the Government, but further detailed studies will be financed and commissioned by the recently formed company Gas Gathering Pipelines (North Sea) Limited, comprising the British Gas Corporation and the British National Oil Corporation, together with some private sector participation. Costs of studies are commercially confidential matters between the consultants and their clients.
Electricity Industry (Sickness Leave)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the average number of days' sickness leave claimed in the electricity industry in the last 12 months; and how this compares with the national average.
The average number of days lost due to sickness absences—including uncertificated absences—in the electricity supply industry was 10·2 in the year ended 31st March 1976. This compares with a national average in 1974–75 of 16·3 days lost. The latter figure is, however, based on national insurance data, and is not therefore strictly comparable since it excludes uncertificated sickness absences and includes long-term incapacity.
Capital Projects
asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) what effect the Chancellor of the Exchequer's announcement on 16th December 1976 of public expenditure savings will have on the timetable for the construction of the first steam generating heavy water reactors;(2) if he will list the capital projects to be abandoned, curtailed or delayed by the nationalised industries responsible to him as a result of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's announcement on 16th December 1976.
No capital project in the nationalised industries for which I am responsible is affected thereby. I am pursuing with the Atomic Energy Authority the question of possible adjustments to its programmes.
Trade
Import Controls
13.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what further consideration has been given to introducing selective import controls; and if he will make a statement.
The Government's policy, as set out by the Chancellor of the Exchequer last April, remains one of readiness to use temporary selective measures to protect normally viable industries which are suffering serious injury as a result of increased imports.
Rossiter Publications Ltd
20.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade when, and on which dates, Rossiter Publications Ltd. filed accounts with the Companies Registration Office under the Companies Act.
No accounts have been filed by this company since its incorporation on 6th December 1973.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will initiate prosecution against Rossiter Publications Limited, Northumberland Avenue, London, for failure to comply with the provisions of the Companies Act to file annual accounts.
Consideration will be given to prosecution of the company under Section 127(3) of the Companies Act 1948 if it fails to respond to reminder letters about accounts due in April 1976.
Japan
21.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether, in the light of current trading practices of Japan, he will now introduce import controls on Japanese cars, electronic goods of all kinds and steel products.
I have at present no plans to do so. In the last few months there have been discussions between the British and Japanese industries at which the Japanese made predictions about the level of their exports to the United Kingdom of televisions and ball bearings. There have also been discussions between the EEC Commission and the Japanese Government on bulk and special steels. I understand that the British and Japanese car industries will be meeting later this month.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what Government funds or Government contribution is being made to set up the Japan Trade Force, aiming at boosting United Kingdom exports to Japan; and whether the Scottish Council for Development and Industry is being invited to participate.
The Government contribution to the Japan Task Force lies in the provision of a joint chairman and a joint secretary from the staff of the exports to Japan unit of the British Overseas Trade Board. The Scottish Council (Development and Industry) was invited to participate in the BOTB/CBI conference on 9th December, which established the task force, but was unable to send a representative. It has, however, been requested to contribute suggestions as to its operation, with which it will be associated, as appropriate.
Tourism
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is his policy concerning the registration of hotels and boarding houses, pursuant to the Development of Tourism Act 1969.
An alternative scheme of voluntary registration approved by the Government and linked to accommodation guides issued annually by the national tourist boards was introduced in 1974; with my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales, I am keeping the position under review.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is his policy towards the development of tourism; and if this has changed since he took office.
Together with my colleagues, the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales, I keep under review the development of the policy announced by my predecessor in November 1974 and I have made no change.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many civil servants in his Department are engaged full-time in activities associated with: (a) tourism, (b) civil aviation, (c) insurance and (d) shipping; and what have been the overseas earnings for each of these sectors, for each of the last five years.
Staff in my Department employed full-time in activities associated with the industries listed, are as follows:
| Tourism | 17 |
| Civil Aviation | 182 |
| Insurance | 128 |
| Shipping | 954 |
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list, for each of the nine EEC countries, in which country there is: (a) a Minister designated as Minister of Tourism; (b) a Minister whose job-description includes the word Tourism in his title; (c) a Government Department with civil servants working solely on tourism matters; and whom, in each Government, the Minister so designated has as his immediate superior.
From the information readily available I understand that in no member State is there a Government Department solely responsible for tourism. In France, the Minister for the Quality of Life is assisted by a Secretary of State for Tourism, and in Italy there is a Minister for Tourism and Sport, responsible to the Prime Minister. The only other EEC Government to single out tourism is Luxembourg, where the Minister of the National Economy, Middle Classes and Tourism—who at present also holds the portfolio for Transport and Power—is answerable to the Prime Minister.
Exports
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what are the latest figures showing the movement in United Kingdom export prices for manufactures in dollar terms since the beginning of 1976.
Quarterly information is given in Table B23 of the latest edition (No. 15) of the Monthly Review of External Trade Statistics, a copy of which is in the House of Commons Library. The index numbers—with 1970=100—for the latest two months, October and November, are 170·0 and 172·9, respectively.
Competitiveness
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the latest figure available in the index of competitiveness; what estimate is made of the current figure; and on what basis the estimate is made.
The latest reasonably firm information relates to the first quarter of 1976, where the index—on 1970=100—is, on present estimates, 99·5. This information, on a quarterly basis, is given in Table B23 of the latest edition (No. 15) of the Monthly Review of External Trade Statistics, a copy of which is in the House of Commons Library. My Department does not make estimates of current figures.
Industry
Departmental Staff
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many civil servants in his Department are engaged full-time in activities associated with (a) the steel industry, (b) motor vehicle manufacturing, (c) chemicals, (d) heavy engineering and (e) machine tools; and what have been the overseas earnings for each of these sectors for each of the last five years.
Numbers of staff in my Department engaged full-time in activities associated with the following commodities are:
| Steel | 57 |
| Motor Vehicle Manufacturing | 36 |
| Chemicals | 15 |
| Machine Tools | 22 |
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what moves are being made to lease the Concorde aircraft to foreign airlines.
We are prepared to consider leasing as an alternative to sale and proposals have been put by the manufacturers to a number of airlines. The policy issues involved in various forms of leasing are currently being examined by the British and French Governments.
Mail (Sunday Collections)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement of the statement on the recent report of the Post Office Users' National Council advocating the restoration of Sunday mail collection.
The Post Office has undertaken to review the suspension of Sunday collections and has told me that it will certainly take account of the POUNC Report before it reaches any conclusion.
Microelectronic Support Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will bring up to date the information concerning the microelectronic support scheme contained in his answer to the hon. Member for Braintree in the Official Report, 27th May 1976, columns 343–4.
The present terms of reference of the microelectronic support scheme remain unchanged.The total of public funds available under the scheme is £10 million, of which £4·9 million has been paid to the three British-owned semi-conductor manufacturers who manufacture integrated circuits specially designed for particular applications. They are Ferranti, GEC and Plessey. Another £3·1 million has been authorised; thus, the total allocated is £8 million.A further 15 projects have been approved since my answer in the
Official Report of 27th May 1976, columns 343–4, making a total of 137 projects. The company sales are at an annual rate of £10 million, of which about 40 per cent. are direct exports.
Pipe Plant, Stanton (Redundancies)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what representations he has received from the British Steel Corporation regarding redundancies threatened at the Stanton concrete and iron pipe plant cuts in capital spending projects. as a result of the economic package of
BSC has given me an estimate of the effects on its Stanton and Staveley group of a six-month moratorium on new capital contracts let by regional water authorities. My right hon. Friend is exploring this with the corporation and is in close touch with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment about it.
Sinclair Radionics Limited (Neb Shareholding)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the price paid by the National Enterprise Board for the 750,000 ordinary and the 200,000 cumulative preference shares in Sinclair Radionics Limited; and when the approval was given by the Secretary of State under Section 10 of the Industry Act 1975, for the National Enterprise Board to acquire more than 30 per cent. of the shares.
The NEB paid £650,000 for 75,000 ordinary shares and 200,000 cumulative preference shares in Sinclair Radionics Ltd.My right hon. Friend gave his approval on 20th October last, under Section 10 of the Industry Act 1975, to the NEB acquiring more than 30 per cent. of the voting equity of the company.In my reply of 7th December last—[Vol. 922, c. 149–50], I said that the acquisition by the NEB of 75,000 ordinary shares in Sinclair Radionics gave the board 37½ per cent. of the company's enlarged ordinary share capital. This should have been 42·9 per cent. I apologise for this error.
Twinlock Ltd (Neb Shareholding)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what shareholding is held by the National Enterprise Board in Twinlock Ltd.; what was the cost of these shares to the Board; and what proportion of the total shares this represents.
7·123 million ordinary shares, at 14p per share, representing one-third of the equity capital of Twinlock Ltd.
Gec (Turbine Generator Plant)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether, in view of the present economic climate in the North-West, he will take action to ensure continuing employment prospects through Government support of the GEC's turbine generator plant in Trafford Park, Lancashire.
Decisions on possible measures to meet the problems of the power plant manufacturers will be taken after Ministers have consulted interested parties about the CPRS report on the industry.
Machine Tool Industry Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much public money has so far been expended under the machine tool industry scheme; and how that money has been divided between the various categories of eligible projects.
Formal offers of assistance made under the machine tool industry scheme so far total £2,742,000, of which £539,000 is for product development, £1,809,000 for new plant and machinery and £394,000 for building work. Payments totalling £152,000 have been made.
Waste Materials (Recycling)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the advice he has received from the Waste Management Advisory Council on further measures required by way of regulations or new schemes of support to encourage recycling and the reclamation of waste.
The Waste Management Advisory Council is continuing to examine, with industry, ways of improving the conservation and recovery of materials, and to identify any technical or economic barriers to them. When this has been done the council will be in a position to assess whether there is a need for regulatory or financial measures. In the shorter term, the Government intend to support a campaign, agreed by the council, to increase public awareness of waste and to promote schemes for the segregation and collection for re-use of certain items of household refuse.
Scrap Metal
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what representations he has received from the British Scrap Federation regarding the opportunity for scrap exports and for import substitution; and if he will make a statement.
I recently received a deputation from the Federation following its request for an open general export licence for ferrous scrap. We have also received a number of written representations. Exports of ferrous scrap by ECSC countries to third countries are restricted in order to safeguard essential supplies for the domestic steel industries. The United Kingdom's export quota to these countries, hitherto made available only for low-grade scrap, is being increased for the first quarter of 1977 to 90,000 tonnes, of which 15 per cent. may be used for fragmentised scrap. There are no restrictions on exports to Community countries.
Computer Software
asked the Secretary of State for Industry for what purposes the National Enterprise Board is considering taking a stake in the computer software industry.
This would accord with the interim policy guidance which the Government has given to the NEB.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the total amount of public money available to the National Enterprise Board for the acquisition of a stake in the computer software industry.
No specific sum has been allocated for this purpose.
Planning Agreements
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if, in the absence of voluntary planning agreements, he will make a further statement of his policy towards the introduction of compulsory planning agreements.
The Government have consistently made clear their preference for a voluntary system of planning agreements. However, the Secretary of State has made clear on a number of occasions that he is dissatisfied with the progress on planning agreements so far, and I hope that industry will realise the benefits to their investment and technology that may be achieved through the planning agreement system.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on progress made in concluding planning agreements with Head Wrightson, Clarke Chapman, Babcock and Wilcox, Whessoe, GEC, Reyrolle Parson, British Leyland and Chrysler (United Kingdom).
Of the first six companies named, four are primarily concerned with the manufacture of power generating equipment and the other two also have interests in this area. Further planning agreement discussions with these companies await the outcome of the urgent consideration the Government is giving to the report by the CPRS on the problems of the industry. Discussions with British
| 1973–74 | 1974–75 | 1975–76 | |||||
| £ million at historic prices | … | … | … | … | 37·1 | 60·5 | 81·9 |
| £ per head of employed population | … | … | … | … | 13·8 | 22·3 | 30·4 |
London
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will outline his policy designed to protect industry in London, to prevent the loss of manufacturing industries in the London area and to encourage the establishment of new industries in that area and so prevent increases in unemployment.
We had the needs of manufacturing firms in London in mind last year in making modifications Leyland and Chrysler UK are continuing. A statement will be laid before the House whenever a planning agreement has been concluded.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will state his objective in quantitative terms regarding planning agreements for 1977.
The Government are fully committed to the system of planning agreements, and our objective is to make progress as rapidly as possible. Discussions are taking place with a number of companies, but I cannot forecast how many agreements will be concluded this year.
North-West Region (Grants, Loans And Subsidies)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list the total amount of grants, loans and subsidies paid to industry in (a) the North-West, (b) Merseyside, (c) Kirkby and (d) Ormskirk in each of the last three years; and how much they amount to per head of the employed population.
Expenditure by the Department of Industry on regional incentives in the North-West, for the most recent three years for which figures are available, was as follows:to the industrial development certificate control, when the exemption limit was raised from 5,000 sq. ft. to 12,500 sq. ft. in the South-East and provision made for IDCs in respect of the speculative replacement of obsolete industrial premises. In addition, qualifying firms in London stand to benefit from all of the schemes under Section 8 of the Industry Act 1972 to encourage investment in specific industries, which were introduced last year. Unemployment in London, however, at 4·1 per cent., remains below the national average, and much below the levels experienced in the development and special development areas.
Wool Textiles
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what recent representations he has received regarding the problems of the wool textile industry on the world decline in demand; and what reply he has sent.
I have received no such representations. Indeed, statistics compiled by the Commonwealth Secretariat suggest that world demand for wool textiles in the first half of 1976 was considerably higher than in the same period of 1975, and in the case of wool tops and worsted yarn was also higher than in 1974. The United Kingdom wool textile industry has taken advantage of this increased demand to further improve its excellent export performance.
Prices And Consumer Protection
Metrological Control Systems
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he has yet received the report of the Working Party on Metrological Control Systems on the method of implementing the changeover from the minimum to the average contents system of packaging.
I have already received an interim report from the working party and hope to receive its final report in a few weeks' time.
Gas
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if the proposed increases in the price of gas announced by the Chancellor of the Exchequer will be subject to the normal provisions of the Price Code.
I refer the hon. Lady to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Pudsey (Mr. Shaw) on 20th December 1976.—[Vol. 923, c. 6.]
Television Rentals
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection whether he will take action to reduce profit margins in television rentals under the prices policy.
Following the Price Commission's Report on TV Rentals, my right hon. Friend used his powers to withdraw investment relief for television receivers and obtained from the main specialist companies undertakings to freeze their rentals and absorb cost increases up to July next. He does not propose to take further action.
Public Transport Fares
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what effect a general 10 per cent. rise in public transport fares would have on the retail price index.
A 10 per cent. increase in bus and train passenger fares would add just under ¼ per cent. to the retail price index.
Petrol And Diesel Fuel
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what effect a 10 per cent. rise in petrol prices and in diesel prices would have on the retail price index.
The direct effect of a 10 per cent. rise in petrol prices on the retail price index would be to raise the index by just over a third of 1 per cent. A 10 per cent. rise in diesel oil prices would have only indirect effects on the index. Taken together, the direct and indirect effects of such increases, when these have fully worked through, are estimated to total under ½ per cent. on the RPI.
European Community
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he will initiate discussions with the appropriate EEC Commissioners to establish closer liaison with consumer protection organisations within the Community.
The EEC Commission convened a symposium of representatives of European consumer organisations in Brussels on 2nd and 3rd December 1976. Officials from my Department and the Office of Fair Trading were present as observers. I do not doubt that the newly-appointed Commissioners will be concerned to maintain close contact with organisations representing consumers within the Community.
Council Of Supreme Court Of Judicature
asked the Attorney-General when the Council of the Supreme Court of Judicature last met; and when it produced its last report.
A Council of the Judges of the Court of Appeal and the High Court last met on 2nd October 1972 and, in accordance with Section 210(2) of the Supreme Court of Judicature (Consolidation) Act 1925, a report was, on 10th October, made to the Secretary of State.
Remanded Persons (Waiting Times)
asked the Attorney General what is the average time spent awaiting trial of those remanded in custody for trial at (a) Manchester Crown Court, (b) Birmingham Crown Court, (c) Leeds Crown Court, (d) Newcastle on Tyne Crown Court, (e) Winchester Crown Court, (f) Liverpool Crown Court, (g) the Central Criminal Court, London and (h) the Inner London Crown Court; and what is the average time spent awaiting trial for those committed on bail for trial at each of these courts.
During the period January to September 1976 the average periods of time spent awaiting trial by defendants who had been committed for trial, in custody and on bail, at the Crown Court Centres listed below were as follows:
| Average waiting time (weeks) | ||
| Crown Court Centre | In Custody | On Bail |
| (a) Manchester (Courts of Justice and Minshull Street) | 6·6 | 9·3 |
| (b) Birmingham | 6·4 | 7·4 |
| (c) Leeds | 5·9 | 8·7 |
| (d) Newcastle on Tyne | 5·5 | 6·6 |
| (e) Winchester | 7·7 | 8·6 |
| (f) Liverpool | 7·2 | 10·0 |
| (g) Central Criminal Court | 18·6 | 24·4 |
| (h) Inner London | 10·0 | 17·7 |
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Courgettes And Radishes
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the total quantity of (a) courgettes and (b) radishes imported into the United Kingdom in the latest 12 month period for which figures are available; and how much, in each case, was imported by air freight.
Our import statistics do not separately distinguish these products.
Horticultural Wholesale Markets
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food which horticultural wholesale markets are being used for EEC monitoring purposes; what information he has about the numbers of public or municipal employees as opposed to traders and porters in each of these markets; and if this number of staff is tending to increase or decrease.
Marketing information is collected for a number of EEC purposes and the designated markets in the United Kingdom are those in Birmingham, Liverpool, Glasgow, Belfast and London—principally Covent Garden. Detailed information on the numbers of employees at this markets is not readily available and would be for the market authority and the commercial firms concerned to provide.
Bryant Builders (Birmingham)
asked the Attorney-General how long the papers in the Bryant Builders (Birmingham) case have been with the Director of Public Prosecutions; and when he expects the Director of Public Prosecutions to announce his decision as to what action he is going to take.
I have nothing to add to my written replies to my hon. Friend's Questions given on 22nd November and 13th December 1976.
Employment
Overseas Workers
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement about the policy of his Department on the issue of work permits for overseas workers.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment on what date the current foreign worker quota period ends; what maximum quota he intends fixing for the following 12-month period; and how many of these will be allocated to the catering industry and the health service.
I do not propose to change the current general arrangements under which work permits are made available only for skilled workers from overseas, where vacancies cannot be filled from the resident labour force. I have reviewed the special arrangements, announced to the House on 3rd February 1976 by my hon. Friend the Member for Norwood (Mr. Fraser), then Under-Secretary of State for Employment, which related to those fields where annual numerical quotas apply—[Vol. 904, c. 559–561].
Hotels and Catering
The arrangements for this industry provided for the issue of work permits up to a ceiling of 6,000 in 1976 but it was hoped that employers would be able to limit their requirements for overseas labour to a figure well below this and would take maximum advantage of the employment situation to recruit and train labour from the resident labour force. The Manpower Services Commission undertook to do everything possible through its agencies to help employers in this endeavour; and my hon. Friend announced that an application for a work permit was to be considered only if the Employment Service Agency had held for the preceding three weeks a vacancy notified by the employer for the job concerned.
It is encouraging to be able to say that the expectations for 1976 have been fulfilled. There has been a very considerably reduced demand for overseas labour from the industry. The Manpower Services Commission has told me that the Employment Service Agency—with the support of the Hotel and Catering Economic Development Committee, which has encouraged employers to co-operate closely with ESA local offices in recruiting their staff—placed 11,000 people in the industry in the spring quarter, the peak recruitment period, an increase of 41 per cent. over 1975; and that under the Training Services Agency's Training Opportunities Scheme the numbers completing courses on hotel and catering work have also increased substantially over 1975: here, the increase for the year is well over 50 per cent. The outcome is that some 3,400 work permits have been issued within the hotel and catering ceiling—only about 40 per cent. of the 1975 figure.
I have consulted representatives of the employers and workers in the industry, and the Manpower Services Commission, about the need for continued recruitment of overseas workers in 1977, and in the light of this I have decided to limit to 2,000 the number of work permits available for workers in the industry this year. I have noted in particular the advice conveyed by the Manpower Services Commission that there is no risk that the industry will find itself short of facilities and resources to provide the training necessary to sustain domestic recruitment of untrained labour. I lay emphasis on this point because I am convended that in the present situation every possible opportunity for work should be available to the resident labour force especially where those opportunities involve only a compartively short period of training which is well within the compass of the industry.
I shall therefore continue to rely on the efforts of the Manpower Services Commission and its agencies in finding suitable candidates for employment and for training, either with the employer or through the Training Services Agency. The three-week rule about the notification of vacancies will continue to apply.
While the figure of 2,000 should relate overwhelmingly to permits for workers who will bring scarce skills and experience to this country in circumstances in, which, exceptionally, the recruitment and training of someone here cannot be achieved, I am prepared to accept that there may be occasional situations in which less-skilled workers from abroad may be needed. The fact that in 1976 fewer than 600 work permits were issued for unskilled workers compared with some 2,500 in 1975 shows that there is a rapidly diminishing need for overseas workers at this level, and such permits will be issued in 1977 in the rarest of circumstances. Indeed, I shall expect that very few permits will be issued for any workers who are not fully skilled.
I hope to see continued progress towards a position where work permits are needed only for the most highly-skilled jobs, either because of a genuine shortage of skills here or because of the international nature of part of the industry. The success of all concerned in achieving a major step forward in that direction in 1976 is the best possible stimulus for continued efforts in 1977.
Resident Domestic Workers and Nursing Auxiliaries
For 1976, a ceiling of 2,500 was set on work permits for resident domestic workers in private households, hospitals, schools and similar institutions. In the case of hospitals, whether or not within the National Health Service, this ceiling applies to nursing auxiliaries as well as resident domestic workers. There is no quota for the Health Service as such. Fewer than 2,000 permits were issued for overseas workers for these occupations last year of which 364 were for work in hospitals. I have decided to limit to 1,500 the number of permits in 1977.
Other Quotas
The quotas for workers from Malta and the dependent territories, and for United Kingdom passport holders, will remain unchanged for 1977.
Christmas Holiday
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what study he has made of the number of firms in 1976 which operate an eight-day holiday from Christmas to New Year; and if he will initiate discussions with the TUC and CBI aimed at obtaining further progress towards a general holiday entitlement of at least four weeks including, where possible, a holiday week covering the period from Christmas to New Year.
I have made no such study, but the Government supported the 1975 EEC recommendation, for four weeks' annual paid holiday by the end of 1978, on the basis that its progressive achievement was a matter for collective bargaining, subject to the requirements of counter-inflation policy. The dates on which holidays are taken are also, in general, a matter for negotiation between employers and employees.
Job Creation Programme
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many projects under the Job Creation Pro- gramme were approved in each of the months since the start of the scheme to the latest month for which figures are available; how many jobs were created; and at what cost.
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the information is as follows:
| No. of projects approved | No. of jobs | MSC grant (£million) | |
| 1975 | |||
| October | 16 | 250 | 0·40 |
| November | 162 | 2,687 | 2·66 |
| December | 181 | 2,040 | 2·27 |
| 1976 | |||
| January | 251 | 2,972 | 3·24 |
| February | 382 | 3,773 | 4·60 |
| March | 302 | 3,376 | 4·19 |
| April | 455 | 4,696 | 5·62 |
| May | 369 | 4,166 | 5·51 |
| June | 537 | 5,302 | 7·84 |
| July | 434 | 4,104 | 6·10 |
| August | 561 | 5,134 | 8·06 |
| September | 550 | 4,872 | 7·18 |
| October | 446 | 4,650 | 6·80 |
| November | 539 | 4,956 | 7·46 |
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many projects under the Job Creation Programme were approved in the Northern Region in each of the last three months for which figures are available; how many jobs were created by those projects; and at what cost.
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the information is as follows:
| No. of projects approved | No. of jobs | MSC grant (£million) | |
| 1976 | |||
| September | 93 | 608 | 1·11 |
| October | 95 | 827 | 1·26 |
| November | 98 | 616 | 0·85 |
"Training For Vital Skills"
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many replies have been received expressing views on the consultative document "Training for Vital Skills".
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that by the end of last year comments had been received from 481 organisations, including employers and employers' associations, trade unions, industrial training boards, education bodies, district manpower committees and others.
Self-Employed Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give figures for the total number of self-employed persons for the last five years.
Following is the information available about the numbers of employers and self-employed persons working on their own account—with or without employees—in the United Kingdom at June in each year from 1970 to 1974, the latest date for which these estimates have been compiled.
| 1970 | 1,902,000 |
| 1971 | 1,909,000 |
| 1972 | 1,899,000 |
| 1973 | 1,947,000 |
| 1974 | 1,925,000 |
Concrete And Iron Pipe Making Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies and how much short-time working he expects next year in the concrete and iron pipe making industry as a result of the economic package for the reduction of capital expenditure projects.
Although I am naturally concerned about possible reductions in employment in the concrete and iron pipe making industries, it is not possible at this stage to make any precise estimates of the extent of short-time working or the number of redundancies which may occur in these industries as a result of the reduction of capital expenditure projects.
Professional And Executive Register
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will instruct the Manpower Services Commission to review the categories of employees now included on the Professional and Executive Register in consultation with employers and trade unions most concerned.
I anticipate that the occupational scope of PER will be looked at as part of the study which is to be made jointly by the Manpower Services Commission, my Department and the Treasury of the implications, financial and otherwise, of merging PER with jobcentres.
Training
asked the Secretary of State for Employment, in cases where practical experience and training is provided for young people by industry, what are the terms under which assistance is given, when decisions are normally taken to pay training costs to employers; and whether payments are normally made in advance, by instalments or in arrears after 26 weeks' training.
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that young people participating in the work experience programme are paid an allowance of £16 per week. The allowance is paid to young people by employers running work experience schemes who are reimbursed by the Manpower Services Commission, usually monthly in arrears. Costs incurred by employers in mounting schemes are met by them. Employers are also encouraged to expand opportunities for experience and training in normal employment by the offer of per capita grants for additional recruitment, payable by instalments in arrears as a contribution towards initial training costs.
Departmental Information (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the cost to public funds in the latest 12 months for which figures are available of all the leaflets, posters, advertising and all other information sources, issued by, or on behalf of his Department, or any autonomous or semi-autonomous body for which he is the responsible Minister.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Apprenticeships And Youth Training
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the level of both apprenticeship and youth training within the London area.
I am sorry that details are not available of the numbers of young persons currently receiving apprenticeship or other training in London or elsewhere and could be obtained only with difficulty and exorbitant cost.
The Government have, however, been greatly concerned to guard against a decline in training opportunities for young people in London and elsewhere during the current recession and have made available substantial resources to the Manpower Services Commission to support training both in industry and through the Training Services Agency's direct training activities. I am satisfied that these measures have helped considerably to maintain the level of apprenticeships and other training opportunities in all areas.
Work Permits
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many employment vouchers have been issued for the last six months for which records are available; and if he will itemise the particular industries to which the vouchers have been allocated.
Work permits have replaced employment vouchers. The number issued—for workers overseas—together with permissions given—to workers already here—for the six months ending 30th September 1976 was 12,273.An industrial analysis of work permits issued and permissions given in 1976 will be available in a few months' time and will be published, as those for previous years have been, in the
Department of Employment Gazette.
Unemployment Statistics
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he has taken, by dismissal or suspension, or other means to discipline the civil servants who refused to compile statistics in relation to unemployment.
All members of the Civil and Public Services Association in the Department of Employment and the Manpower Services Commission group were sent advance warning at the end of last week that if their union did not call off the industrial action the Government would have no option but to suspend without pay those who were not prepared to undertake to perform their normal duties, including statistics. A letter setting out the views of the Government on this industrial action was sent by the Civil Service Department to the General Secretary of the CPSA on 23rd December. This will be considered at a meeting of the union's national executive committee on 11th-12th January.
Health And Safety
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has yet replied to the letter from the Chairman of the Health and Safety Commission, dated 1st December 1976, regarding the delay in making regulations concerning safety representatives and committees; and, if so, if he will publish his reply in the Official Report.
No reply has been sent as I am still considering the matter. However, as requested by the chairman in his letter, I met with the Health and Safety Commission on 7th December to discuss the issues involved.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many copies of the booklet "Safety Representatives and Safety Committees" have been printed, distributed and sold since publication;(2) if he will make a statement regarding the delay in publication of the report of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Factories for the year 1975.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Regional Employment Premium
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the value of regional employment premium paid to industry in Wales during each of the last four years, the estimated value for the current year and the estimated loss to industry in Wales during each of the next four years as a result of the withdrawal of this premium in the New Year.
pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 23rd December 1976; Vol. 923, c. 317], gave the following information:The abolition of the Regional Employment Premium is part of a wider package of industrial measures, which include the retention of the temporary employment subsidy until the end of April 1977. The measures as a whole are designed to reduce the level of unemployment in 1977 compared with what it would otherwise have been.The estimated payment made in respect of regional employment premium for the Welsh development area were:
| Financial Year | £ million |
| 1972–73 | 13 |
| 1973–74 | 15 |
| 1974–75 | 22 |
| 1975–76 | 31 |
| Financial Year | £ million |
| 1976–77 | 32 |
| 1977–78 | 25 |
| 1978–79 | 26 |
| 1979–80 | 27 |
| 1980–81 | 28 |
Job Release Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many applications under the job release scheme have been approved and rejected in each of the assisted areas.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Advisory, Conciliation And Arbitration Service
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the cost to public funds of Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service; and how many people it employs.
pursuant to the reply [Official Report, 23rd December 1976; Vol. 923, c. 316], gave the following information:The cost to public funds in 1976–77 of the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service is expected to be about £6·6 million. The service employs 774 staff, including eight servicing the Certification Officer and 18 the Central Arbitration Committee.
Civil Service
Civil Servants
asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will review the system of senior appointments in the Civil Service in the light of evidence sent to him by the hon. Member for Upminster.
No. In my reply to the hon. Member on 30th November I described the procedure for making senior appointments in the Civil Service. I am satisfied that before they are made there is proper consultation and full consideration of the field of potential candidates.
Official Report Of Debates
asked the Minister for the Civil Service why copies of the Official Report for Wednesday 24th November are not avaliable in the Vote Office in the normal printed and bound form; and when copies in this form will be available.
Publication of the Official Report for Wednesday 24th November was delayed because of an industrial dispute. The dispute has now been resolved and the Report will be published as soon as production can be fitted in with other essential parliamentary work.
Pensions
asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will estimate by how much the expected £114 million cost of inflation-proofing public service pensions would be reduced if pension increases had been prevented by the amount that they exceeded £6 per week.
Figures are available only for the Civil Service. It is estimated that the cost of the 1st December 1976 increase to Civil Service pensions will be £31 million in a full year. If the £6 limit had been applied, the estimated saving would be about £2½ million. There is no evidence to suggest that the saving ratio for the rest of the public service would be significantly different.
Eec Printed Papers (Demand Form)
asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is the approximate annual cost of printing the "Demand Form for EEC Printed Papers"; what is the general circulation of each issue; and how many are sent to Members, Government Departments, individuals and other organisations, respectively.
The approximate annual cost of printing the "Demand Form for EEC Printed Papers" is £8,000. Circulation of copies of each issue is confined to Members and copies are not made available outside the House.
Education And Science
Tameside Metropolitan Borough (Court Costs)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will now detail the total costs incurred during the three court cases in 1976 between her Department and Tameside Metropolitan Borough: (a) by the Crown and (b) by Tameside Metropolitan Borough.
Details of costs submitted by solicitors for Tameside are being examined by the Treasury Solicitor's Department. Should they prove unacceptable, a formal Bill of Costs must be lodged with the High Court by Tameside for "taxation"—that is, scrutiny and decision. I am informed that determination of the matter may then take some months. The Crown's costs will be assessed subsequently.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what arrangements will be made from April 1977 with respect to student grants in consequence of the partial loss of income tax reliefs for parents with children over 19 years of age in full-time education.
Parents of students who are liable for a parental contribution will have their contribution reduced for the academic year 1977–78 to take account of the reduction in child tax allowances in the financial year 1977–78.
Defence
Microcircuit Development Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will bring up to date the information concerning the microcircuit development scheme contained in his answers to the hon. Member for Braintree in the Official Report, 6th August 1976, columns 1057–9.
The answers given to the hon. Member on 6th August still stand, except for the following changes:
Northern Ireland
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many members of the Armed Forces or others are currently entitled to the additional daily payment of 50p as a result of service in Northern Ireland.
pursuant to his answer [Official Report, 20th December 1976; Vol. 923, c. 34], gave the following information:A total of 14,245 members of the Regular Armed Forces are currently receiving additional pay for service in Northern Ireland. Of these, 905 are members of the Royal Navy or Royal Marines, 12,482 are in the Army, and 858 are in the Royal Air Force. In addition, all 1,622 members of the non-regular permanent staff of the Ulster Defence Regiment receive the same additional daily payment, as do part-time members of the UDR for each day on which they receive a full day's pay at Regular Army rates. No other Ministry of Defence employees are eligible for such payments.
European Community
Eec Printed Papers (Demand Forms)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if the general public are able to obtain the yellow "Demand Form for EEC Printed Papers"; what additional cost arises, or would arise, in extending access to these demand forms from Members of Parliament and official Departments and others who have access to them.
The House of Commons demand form for EEC Printed Papers is issued only to Members to enable them to obtain copies of documents available in the Vote Office. It is not possible to estimate precisely the cost of increased access to the form since this would clearly depend on the extent of any increase, the method chosen and in particular, on whether or not the extension also established a service for the supply of the documents listed on the form similar to that provided for Members by the Vote Office. I am writing in detail as I promised to my hon. Friend on this and relevant issues.
Treaty Of Rome
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, pursuant to his oral reply on 22nd December, he will list in the Official Report the occasions when specific articles of the Treaty of Rome have not been adhered to.
In my oral reply on 22nd December I referred to departures from literal interpretations of the treaty. Apart from breaches which may have been the subject of infraction proceedings, there have of course been since 1958 numerous derogations from the specific provisions of the treaty. Moreover, the deadlines fixed in the treaty for the progressive implementation of the Common Market were not always observed. Since many of these issues are ones which rely on a subjective interpretation, no comprehensive list could be compiled.
Visas And Entry Permits
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs which member countries of the EEC do not require applicants for visas and entry permits to furnish photographs of themselves.
With the exception of the Republic of Ireland, all member countries of the EEC require applicants for visas to provide photographs in some, or all, cases.In the Republic of Ireland, photographs are required after entry from persons who have to register with the police, and those who apply for residence permits.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Embassies And High Commissions (Costs)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list the British embassies and high commissions in existence in 1975 in the order of the cost of their operation in that year, showing in each case the costs incurred.
The information is as follows:
| Embassy/High Commission | Annual cost (£ millions) |
| Washington | 3·68 |
| Paris | 2·95 |
| Bonn | 2·39 |
| Tokyo | 2·19 |
| Brussels | 1·47 |
| Lagos | 1·40 |
| New Delhi | 1·30 |
| Tehran | 1·13 |
| Rome | 1·12 |
| Moscow | 1·10 |
| Nicosia | 1·07 |
| Ottawa | 0·95 |
| Nairobi | 0·94 |
| Vienna | 0·92 |
| Islamabad | 0·88 |
| Canberra | 0·86 |
| Singapore | 0·86 |
| Warsaw | 0·80 |
| Dacca | 0·78 |
| Beirut | 0·77 |
| Madrid | 0·77 |
| Jakarta | 0·74 |
| Kuala Lumpur | 0·74 |
| Jedda | 0·72 |
| Athens | 0·70 |
| Copenhagen | 0·67 |
| Stockholm | 0·67 |
| The Hague | 0·66 |
| Ankara | 0·60 |
| Kuwait | 0·59 |
| Pretoria | 0·59 |
| Bangkok | 0·58 |
| Mexico City | 0·58 |
| Caracas | 0·57 |
| Tel Aviv | 0·57 |
| Brasilia | 0·56 |
| Cairo | 0·56 |
| Kingston | 0·55 |
| Helsinki | 0·54 |
| Peking | 0·52 |
| Budapest | 0·51 |
| Accra | 0·50 |
| Kinshasa | 0·50 |
| Lisbon | 0·48 |
| Belgrade | 0·47 |
| East Berlin | 0·47 |
| Oslo | 0·47 |
| Baghdad | 0·45 |
| Buenos Aires | 0·45 |
| Embassy/High Commission | Annual cost (£ millions) |
| Berne | 0·43 |
| Lusaka | 0·43 |
| Prague | 0·42 |
| Abu Dhabi | 0·40 |
| Addis Ababa | 0·40 |
| Port of Spain | 0·40 |
| Wellington | 0·40 |
| Muscat | 0·39 |
| Seoul | 0·39 |
| Khartoum | 0·38 |
| Tripoli | 0·37 |
| Kampala | 0·37 |
| Amman | 0·36 |
| Bucharest | 0·34 |
| Dar es Salaam | 0·34 |
| Dublin | 0·34 |
| Havana | 0·34 |
| Santiago | 0·33 |
| Colombo | 0·32 |
| Lima | 0·32 |
| Sofia | 0·32 |
| Lilongwe | 0·31 |
| Bridgetown | 0·29 |
| Manila | 0·28 |
| Algiers | 0·27 |
| Dakar | 0·27 |
| Georgetown | 0·27 |
| Gaborone | 0·26 |
| Freetown | 0·25 |
| Nassau | 0·24 |
| Bogota | 0·23 |
| Sana'a | 0·23 |
| Yaounde | 0·23 |
| Vientiane | 0·23 |
| Damascus | 0·22 |
| Port Louis | 0·22 |
| Valletta | 0·22 |
| Bahrain | 0·21 |
| Hanoi | 0·21 |
| Abidjan | 0·20 |
| Doha | 0·20 |
| La Paz | 0·20 |
| Luxembourg | 0·20 |
| Rangoon | 0·20 |
| Kabul | 0·19 |
| Montevideo | 0·19 |
| Panama City | 0·19 |
| Aden | 0·18 |
| Mbabane | 0·17 |
| Rabat | 0·17 |
| Quito | 0·17 |
| Kathmandu | 0·16 |
| Port Moresby | 0·16 |
| Suva | 0·16 |
| Tunis | 0·16 |
| Banjul | 0·14 |
| Brunei | 0·14 |
| Maseru | 0·14 |
| Monrovia | 0·14 |
| Maputo | 0·13 |
| Mogadishu | 0·13 |
| San Jose | 0·11 |
| Santa Domingo | 0·11 |
| Asuncion | 0·10 |
| Managua | 0·10 |
| Reykjavik | 0·10 |
| San Salvador | 0·10 |
| Ulan Bator | 0·09 |
| Tananarive | 0·08 |
| Nuku'alofa | 0·04 |
Entry Certificates
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what indication is given to visitors to the United Kingdom who have been issued with entry certificates, that any change in their circumstances since application was originally made for an entry visa will render the entry certificate invalid on arrival in the United Kingdom and that the passenger is liable to be returned to his country of origin without compensation; and if he will make a statement.
The form which is completed by each applicant for a United Kingdom entry certificate states that the holder of a valid entry certificate will not be refused leave to enter the United Kingdom unless the immigration officer is satisfied that:
Northern Ireland
Fishing Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what percentage increase, taking into account the change in the landed prices of the fish, is represented by the increase of the annual catch of seafish by Northern Ireland boats from £800,000 in 1967 to £2,800,000 in 1975.
Approximately 21 per cent.
Terrorism (Prevention)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons excluded from Great Britain under the provisions of the Prevention of Terrorism (Northern Ireland) Act have been sent to Northern Ireland; and how many have been subsequently detained on charges with offences in Northern Ireland to date.
Fifty-six persons excluded from Great Britain have been removed to Northern Ireland under the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Acts 1974 and 1976; 11 of these were held on arrival, but all were released after questioning.
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons have been detained in Northern Ireland under the provisions of the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act to date; how many have subsequently been charged with offences; and with what offences they have been charged.
255 persons have been held in Northern Ireland under the provisions of the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Acts 1974 and 1976. 133 of these persons were subsequently charged with the following offences:
| Offences | Number of charges |
| Murder | 36 |
| Attempted murder | 13 |
| Conspiracy to murder | 2 |
| Explosives offences | 39 |
| Conspiracy to cause explosion | 2 |
| Firearms offences | 40 |
| Membership of a proscribed organisation | 12 |
| Burglary | 1 |
| Robbery | 4 |
| Offences against the person | 2 |
| Unlawful collection of information | 1 |
| Theft | 4 |
| Hi-jacking | 2 |
| False imprisonment | 5 |
| Malicious damage | 1 |
| Taking part in an illegal procession | 1 |
Note: Some of the 133 persons were charged with more than one offence.
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons have been charged under the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act in Northern Ireland to date; and under which section of the Act.
None.
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many persons have been excluded from Northern Ireland under the provisions of the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provisions) Act to date; and how many have been sent to Great Britain and the Republic of Ireland, respectively.
Two persons have been removed from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland in pursuance of orders excluding them from the United Kingdom.
Scotland
Boundary Commission
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the members of the Boundary Commission for Scotland.
The Commission's chairman is Mr. Speaker. The deputy chairman is the hon. Lord Keith and the members are Mr. Andrew A. L. Evans, former County Clerk of Midlothian, and Professor Gordon C. Cameron, of the Chair of Town and Regional Planning at Glasgow University. In view of Lord Keith's appointment as a Lord of Appeal in Ordinary, his successor on the Commission will shortly be appointed by the Lord President of the Court of Session.
General Elections
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how he proposes to fund the supervision of the conduct of General Elections; and how this compares with the previous method.
No change is contemplated in the arrangements whereby, under Section 20 of the Representation of the People Act 1949, charges in respect of services rendered and expenses incurred by a returning officer for the purposes of or in connection with parliamentary elections are, within a scale prescribed by the Treasury, met out of the Consolidated Fund.
Hill Livestock (Compensatory Allowances)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will amend the Hill Livestock (Compensatory Allowances) Regulations 1975 to allow for apportionment of payments to tenants vacating holdings before the qualifying day for such claims.
No. While compensatory allowances are calculated by reference to the stock carried over the previous year, payment is made in advance and relates to the year in which the qualifying day, 1st January, falls. The question of apportionment of payment does not therefore arise.
Wales
Welsh Development Agency
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what additional funds will be available to the Welsh Development Agency as a consequence of the changes announced by the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his economic statement.
£2·5 million for each of the years 1977–78 and 1978–79.
Roads
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report the changes in the programme for the construction of the M4 and other roads in Wales on the Chancellor of the Exchequer's economic statement.
M4 schemes will not be affected. The starting dates of some other schemes will need to be re-phased during the next two years.
Fishery Byelaws
asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether, in view of the public concern aroused by the new fishery bye-laws proposed by the Welsh National Water Development Authority, he will order a public inquiry at which representatives of angling associations will be enabled to express their views in regard to them.
Under the statutory arrangements, the Welsh National Water Development Authority considers objections to any proposals it makes for revision of its byelaws. The Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food and my right hon. and learned Friend then take these and any other factors into account in reaching a conclusion on whether to confirm them. When we receive the authority's proposals we shall decide whether or not a public inquiry is necessary.
asked the secretary of State for Wales if he ensure that angling associations in Wales are provided with an opportunity to secure public inquiries whenever the Welsh National Water Development Authority reviews fishing byelaws or introduces new fishing charges.
The statutory arrangements provide angling associations with an opportunity to make their objections to changes in fisheries bylaws and charges proposed by the Welsh National Water Development Authority known to my right hon. and learned Friend and to the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. We take these fully into account, and may hold a public inquiry if necessary before reaching a conclusion on the proposals.
Environment
Tied Cottages (Abolition)
28.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the further housing cuts announced in the Chancellor of the Exchequer's statement will extend in such a way as to preclude the provision by local authorities of additional accommodation designed to meet the needs arising from the abolition of tied cottages under the Rent (Agriculture) Act.
There is no reason to suppose that local housing authorities will be unable to fulfil their statutory obligation under the Rent (Agriculture) Act 1976.
Rate Equalisation
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will detail in the Official Report the methods of rate equalisation to be used in Greater London in 1977–78 to ensure relative equality to rate burden.
I refer my hon. Friend to the Secretary of State's report on the Rate Support Grant Order 1976. Appendix E describes the arrangements of grant distribution and rate equalisation within London.
Rate Support Grant
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the Official Report the factors used in determining the needs entitlement for each local authority in the rate support grant settlement in 1977–78.
I refer my hon. Friend to the Rate Support Grant Order 1976 (S.I., 1976, No. 2203). Schedule I lists all the needs factors to be used in the 1977–78 distribution formulae.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report the amounts of the needs, domestic and resources elements, of the rate support grant payable to each local authority in England and Wales for the year 1977–78.
The information is not yet available.
Homeless Persons
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he intends to introduce any additional measures to help homeless people.
As my right hon. Friend the Minister for Housing and Construction told my hon. Friend the Member for Mitcham and Morden (Mr. Douglas-Mann) on 23rd December 1976—[Vol. 923, c. 263–4.]—the Government will be supporting the Housing (Homeless Persons) Bill, which was presented to the House on 22nd December by the hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Mr. Ross), and with which my hon. Friend the Member for Caerphilly (Mr. Evans) is closely involved. In the light of developments on this, we will consider the need for such further measures as the issue of a circular of guidance to local authorities.
Rates
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the proportion of rates to net disposable income in each of the five years ending 5th April 1977.
I refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave to the hon. Member for Ashford (Mr. Speed) on 6th December 1976.—[Vol. 922, c. 24.]
Civil Servants (Office Buildings)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many separate office buildings are occupied or partially occupied by civil servants in (a) central London and (b) the rest of the United Kingdom; and what were the equivalent numbers in March 1974.
Information is not available for the precise dates in question. The Property Services Agency's record of office holdings showed 1,067 holdings in London and 5,782 in the rest of the United Kingdom in December 1973, and 1,075 and 5,449 holdings, respectively, in March 1976.
Water Pipes
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consultations he has had with the concrete pipe industry about the effects on that industry of a six-month moratorium on water authority contracts; and what steps he is taking to advise the industry on how permanent closures of pipe works can be avoided.
Representatives of the concrete pipe industry will be meeting appropriate Ministers tomorrow.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions have taken place between his Department and regional water authorities on pending cuts and postponements of orders for concrete and iron pipes, as part of the economic package for the reduction of capital spending.
I have had discussions with the chairmen of the regional water authorities and have asked each authority to provide a detailed assessment of the effect of the proposed reductions. These will cover the likely consequences on the construction and allied industries, including pipe manufacturers.
Cesspit Charges
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many owners of urban cesspits have had their charges removed from the general rate and are now receiving specific charges.
The total number of cesspits in the country is not known; there are likely to be far fewer in urban than in rural areas. I do not have comprehensive information on the charging policies of local authorities for emptying cesspits but it appears that the majority now make specific charges.
"Housing: Needs And Action"
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether it was his intention in the advice he gave local authorities in section III, paragraphs 18 and 19 of "Housing: Needs and Action" to encourage changes in partially completed developments on a scale sufficient to double the density of the development.
Circular 24/75 encouraged higher densities for residential development in appropriate localities but no specific numerical increase in density was suggested. A fresh planning application is required where a change is proposed in a partially completed development.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he wishes planning authorities to take into account the level of local demand for the type of house proposed and the visual impact of the development when they seek to implement the advice on increased density in section III of his Circular 24/75 "Housing: Needs and Action".
Yes.
Central Ordnance Depot, Bicester (Railway)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the annual cost of maintaining the railway at the central ordnance depot at Bicester, Oxfordshire; and what steps have been taken to replace the railways by roads, as recommended by the survey team appointed nine years ago.
The Ministry of Public Building and Works survey team which reported on the Central Ordnance Depot, Bicester in 1968, recommended a joint examination with the Army of the railway system with a view to reducing costs including the practicability of replacing some or all of the railways by roads. For military reasons, substantial change proved to be unacceptable to the Army, although worthwhile economies were made. The cost to the Property Services Agency of maintaining the permanent way in 1975–76 was £103,000. The 1966–67 costs of £48,000, updated to 1975–76 prices, become approximately £142,000. The situation is under regular review and was examined by a joint MOD and PSA working party in 1974. The military requirement, however, was found to be substantially unaltered.
Property Services Agency
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, if he will publish in the Official Report details of the services which will be eliminated or reduced as a result of the recently announced cuts in expenditure relating to the Property Services Agency.
Savings in expenditure by the Property Services Agency will be achieved mainly by deferring 12 months the starts of new works schemes for Civil Departments; this will affect Government offices, specialised accommodation such as courts and research establishments, and buildings for the diplomatic services overseas. In addition, the cuts on defence will involve some reduction in the agency's expenditure on defence accommodation.
Gipsies
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to receive the Cripps Report on gipsies; and when he will publish it.
Mr. Cripps has now submitted his report to my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for the Environment and for Wales. It is being printed and is expected to be published within the next two months; copies will be placed in the Library. There will need to be careful study of the report and widespread consultations before any conclusions are reached on the recommendations.
Fluoridation
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the doubts expressed by the National Water Council regarding the basis for putting fluoride in the water supply; and on the three prerequisites recently stipulated by the Anglian Water Authority before that authority will implement future requests for fluoridation
I am aware of the questions which the National Water Council and individual water authorities have raised on fluoridation and I am examining them. I have no reason, however, at this stage to depart from the view, which successive Governments have held, that there is an adequate statutory basis for fluoridation. It is for the water authority to decide in the light of all the circumstances whether it can meet a request from an area health authority to fluoridate supplies in the interests of reducing tooth decay.
Litter Act
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many prosecutions have been taken out under the Litter Act in each year since the Act came into force; in how many cases there were convictions; and what were the penalties imposed.
Following are the figures:
| PROSECUTIONS UNDER THE LITTER ACT 1958 | ||
| Persons prosecuted | Persons convicted | |
| 1958* | 268 | 262 |
| 1959 | 2,450 | 2,370 |
| 1960 | 2,599 | 2,527 |
| 1961 | 2,395 | 2,322 |
| 1962 | 2,530 | 2,457 |
| 1963 | 2,736 | 2,648 |
| 1964 | 2,984 | 2,866 |
| 1965 | 2,914 | 2,803 |
| 1966 | 2,773 | 2,670 |
| 1967 | 2,962 | 2,851 |
| 1968 | 2,435 | 2,342 |
| 1969 | 1,925 | 1,865 |
| 1970 | 1,854 | 1,777 |
| 1971 | 1,944 | 1,855 |
| 1972 | 2,356 | 2,275 |
| 1973 | 2,672 | 2,531 |
| 1974 | 2,279 | 2,157 |
| TOTAL | 40,076 | 38,578 |
| * From 7th August 1958. | ||
Public Inquiries
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will initiate a study designed to provide financial and legal assistance to organisations such as tenants' associations to be fully represented at public inquiries, and therefore to be on a par with his Department and local authorities' planning departments.
Not at present.
Owner-Occupiers (Incomes)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many owner-occupiers he estimates to have incomes below the level which would qualify them for rent rebates if they were tenants; and how many such owner-occupiers he estimates have housing costs such that they would be eligible for rebates if they were tenants.
Since rent rebates and allowances are calculated on a combination of income, family circumstances, and rent, there is no absolute maximum income or minimum rent for qualification. The question cannot therefore be answered as put. Straight comparisons between the housing costs of owner-occupiers and tenants are, moreover, very difficult and potentially misleading. But it is estimated that, in addition to the 413,000 owner-occupiers already receiving supplementary benefits, another 300500,000 might also qualify for rent allowances in their present form if mortgage interest—net of tax relief and option mortgage subsidy—and other housing costs incurred by owner-occupiers were to be regarded as rent. This is being taken into account in the current general review of the various means-tested housing assistance schemes.
Improvement Grants
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether any reduction in expenditure by central or local government on discretionary home improvements grants will be arranged, in the light of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's statement on 15th December.
No. Following the reductions in public expenditure announced in July, my hon. Friend referred to the Study Group on Programmes of Social Ownership and Renovation of Council Dwellings the division of the total resources available for the three programmes of municipalisation, local authority improvement works and private sector renovation grants. It was agreed that the amount available for private sector renovation grants should, in real terms, equate to present estimates of expenditure in the current year, and this decision was not affected by my right hon. Friend's statement on 15th December. Within the total of £72 million available—at 1976 survey prices—each local authority will shortly be given an allocation within which it will be required to contain expenditure on renovation grants.
Thames Water Authority (Equalisation Charge)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the additional charge to the Thames Water Authority ratepayers which might result from the Water Charges Equalisation Bill, if it becomes law unamended, expressed as (a) a rate in the pound and (b) cash per domestic ratepayer.
It is too early in the budgetary cycles of water authorities for me to attempt reliable predictions About the effects of equalisation in terms of precise poundages. I estimate, however, that equalisation would in 1977–78 cost the average domestic consumer in the area of the Thames Water Authority less than 2p per week.
Army Base, Aldershot (Football And Hockey Pitches)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many association football, rugby football and hockey pitches are currently being maintained at the Army base at Aldershot; and what is the annual cost of such maintenance.
I have been asked to reply.The Aldershot garrison area maintained 65 pitches during the 1975–76 financial year, at a cost of £70,000. Of those 65 pitches, 13 were used for hockey and the remaining 52 for either Association football or rugby.
Financial Institutions (Inquiry)
asked the Prime Minister if he is now in a position to announce the membership of the Committee to Review the Functioning of Financial Institutions.
Yes. I am glad to be able to tell the House that, as I announced on 5th January, the following have accepted my invitation to serve as members of this committee under the chairmanship of my right hon. Friend the Member for Huyton (Sir H. Wilson):
- The Lord Allen of Fallowfield, CBE.
- Professor Andrew Bain.
- Mr. Gordon Bayley, CBE.
- Mr. Zachry Brierley, MBE.
- Sir Kenneth Bond.
- Mr. Kenneth Cork.
- Professor Ralf Dahrendorf.
- Mr. Andrew Graham.
- Mr. Clive Jenkins.
- Mr. Richard Lloyd.
- Mr. Leif Mills.
- Dr. Joan Mitchell.
- The Right Honourable Lionel Murray, OBE.
- Mr. David Orr, MC.
- Sir John Prideaux.
- Mr. Hugh Stephenson.
- Mr. Arthur Sugden.
Transport
London Transport Executive
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the items, exceeding £100,000 in cost, within the £1 million research fund he has made to London Transport Executive; and what consultations he has had with the Greater London Council in regard to this expenditure.
The provision of grant to London Transport Executive of about £1 million in 1976–77 is part of the payment under a joint DTp/DOE/ LTE Programme of Rapid Transit (Railway) Research and Development initiated in 1972 at a total cost then estimated at £2·36 million.The individual items in this programme, upon which over £100,000 will be spent in the current financial year, are:
| Train regulation by computer | £340,000 |
| Electronic control of train motors | £330,000 |
Statistics
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will amend his past calculations of road vehicles in use, which form the basis of transport planning. to take account of errors of method in arriving at the figures.
The costs involved in amending past estimates would not be justified, as the changes would be small relative to the total vehicle stock.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport, in the light of the fact that the present method of calculating the annual vehicle census produces an over-estimate of the order of 400,000 vehicles, if he will now return to the system of counting all vehicles licensed on any one day as was done between 1939 and 1945.
It is already planned to carry out a full census of vehicles currently licensed as at 31st December. This will be made possible when all vehicle registrations are held at the Driving and Vehicle Licensing Centre.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what has been the cost, in each of the past five years, of the collection of road traffic statistics by his Department.
Following are the estimated figures for routine road traffic enumeration. All figures are at the prices prevailing at the time; at constant prices, the annual cost has risen only marginally over the period.
| Financial years | £ thousands |
| 1971–72 | 249·4 |
| 1972–73 | 240·7 |
| 1973–74 | 338·7 |
| 1974–75 | 465·8 |
| 1975–76 | 536·7 |
Road Construction Units
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what was the cost of the sub-units of the road construction units in 1973, 1974 and 1975.
The following estimates of expenditure on sub-units in the last three financial years—ending 31st March—include an element for the cost of civil servants working in sub-units during these periods, and certain office expenses, but not the cost of accommodation, which is not provided by my Department.
| 1973–74 | 1974–75 | 1975–76 |
| £11·5 million | £11·1 million | £12·7 million |
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list in the Official Report the total sums paid to local authorities in England and Wales as reimbursement of those costs of road construction units borne by them in 1973, 1974 and 1975.
Figures are not readily available for calendar years, but the costs reimbursed during the last three financial years ending 31st March are listed below:
| 1973–74 | 1974–75 | 1975–76 |
| £10,578,565 | £11,109,227 | £13,999,517 |
M42 (Solihull)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list in the Official Report the cost of the M42 Solihull section divided as to: (a) works cost, (b) cost of design supervision, etc., and (c) extraneous costs such as removal of pylons by the Central Electricity Generating Board or other incidental but unavoidable charges.
Information on the estimated final cost of the Solihull section of the M42 is as follows:
| £ million | |
| A. Construction costs | 26·5 |
| B. Design and supervision: | |
| (1) Surveys | 0·09 |
| (2) Consultancy fees | 0·15 |
| (3) Miscellaneous | 0·05 |
| C. Other costs: | |
| (1) Alterations to statutory undertakers' apparatus | 1·9 |
| (2) Strengthening of side roads | 0·25 |
Road Lighting (Advisory Committee)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the members of his advisory committee on road lighting standards, together with their qualifications.
My right hon. Friend does not have an advisory committee on roads. The road lighting designs adopted by the Department are generally those set out in British Standards and Codes of Pratice and Officials of the Department represent its interests on the relevant committees of the British Standards Institution.The Department consults with industry and other users and considers it has the right to modify Standards if the need arises and especially where the applicable British Standard is out of date.
Vehicle Excise Duties
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what would be the revenue that would arise in the next financial year from raising annual vehicle excise duties for buses and coaches to the equivalent lorry rate for the appropriate weight of the vehicle; what the average vehicle excise duty for each bus and coach would be under this system; what it is at present; and what the estimated total revenue from vehicle excise duty from buses and coaches will be in the current financial year.
Information about the unladen weight of buses and coaches is not kept. It is therefore impossible to estimate revenue receipts on the basis proposed. The average duty on hackney carriages with more than 20 seats is £32 in the current financial year and the estimated total revenue from such vehicles is £3 million.
Supplementary Grants
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish in the Official Report the amount of transport supplementary grant paid to local authorities in England and Wales in 1975–76 and 1976–77, and proposed for 1977–78, together with the amounts of accepted expenditure on local transport in those years, all at November 1976 prices.
Information in the form requested is not readily available. The exact revaluation to November 1976 price levels of Accepted Expenditure and Transport Supplementary Grant (TSG) allocated to county councils and the GLC at November 1974 and 1975 prices—that is, in the 1975–76 and 1976–77 settlements, respectively—would require the preparation of specific inflation indices and their subsequent application to the individual heads of expenditure which together comprise the local transpport sector.My right hon. Friend will make a statement about the 1977–78 TSG settlement shortly.
Kidney Donor Cards
asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he expects to conclude his consideration of proposals to associate kidney donor cards with the issue of provisional driving licences.
Shortly.
Subsidies
asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will publish a detailed breakdown of the various means by which public transport, separated into passenger and freight is subsidised, by central and local government, including subsidies on capital expenditure; and if he will give these figures for the last five financial years, and estimates for the current year, in both out-turn prices and November 1976 prices.
The information about the subsidies for which I am responsible, which comprise cental Government subsidies for Great Britain and local authority subsidies for England, is set out below. The constant price figures are given at November 1975 prices, as these are the latest available. Grants to the British Railways Board in respect of its historic pension liabilities are not included.
| £ million | |||||||||
Outturn prices
| |||||||||
1971–72
| 1972–73
| 1973–74
| 1974–75
| 1975–76
| 1976–77 *
| ||||
| CENTRAL GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES (GB) | |||||||||
| A. Central Government Subsidies to BRB | |||||||||
| 1. Passenger Revenue | |||||||||
| (a) Transport Act 1968 | |||||||||
| S.39—Unremunerative Passenger Services | … | … | … | 65·1 | 66·3 | 81·5 | 136·0 | 4·7 | 0·9 |
| S.40—Surplus Track | … | … | … | 7·5 | 8·5 | 1·8 | 0·5 | — | — |
| S.57—Research | … | … | … | 1·6 | 1·4 | 1·8 | 1·8 | 1·7 | 2·0 |
| (b) Transport (Grants) Act 1972 | … | … | … | — | 27·0 | — | — | — | — |
| (c) Railways Act 1974 | |||||||||
| S.3—Public Service Obligation (EEC Reg. 1191/69) | … | … | … | — | — | — | 78·7 | 291·9 | 330·0 |
| S.3—Level Crossings (EEC Reg. 1192/69) | … | … | … | — | — | — | 1·6 | 10·1 | 9·6 |
| (d) Appropriation Acts | |||||||||
| Cashflow shortfall grants (Revenue element) | … | … | … | — | — | 75·0 | 134·4 | — | — |
| Total Revenue | … | … | … | 74·2 | 103·2 | 160·1 | 353·0 | 308·4 | 342·5 |
| 2. Passenger Capital | |||||||||
| (a) Transport Act 1968 | |||||||||
| S.56—Infrastructure Grant | … | … | … | … | 1·3 | 11·1 | 17·0 | 8·0 | 7·5 |
| (b) Appropriation Acts | |||||||||
| Cashflow shortfall grants (Capital element) | … | … | … | — | 42·0 | 2·0 | 47·6 | — | — |
| Total Capital | … | … | … | 1·3 | 53·1 | 19·0 | 69·8 | 8·0 | 7·5 |
| 3. Freight Revenue | |||||||||
| (a) Appropriation Acts | |||||||||
| Revenue deficit grant | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | 81·0 | 42·3 |
* Estimates. | |||||||||
| £ million | |||||||||
November 1975 prices
| |||||||||
1971–72
| 1972–73
| 1973–74
| 1974–75
| 1975–76
| 1976–77 *
| ||||
| CENTRAL GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES (GB) | |||||||||
| A. Central Government Subsidies to BRB | |||||||||
| 1. Passenger Revenue | |||||||||
| (a) Transport Act 1968 | |||||||||
| S.39—Unremunerative Passenger Services | … | … | … | 116·5 | 108·5 | 121·9 | 171·1 | 4·8 | 0·8 |
| S.40—Surplus Track | … | … | … | 13·4 | 13·9 | 2·7 | 0·6 | — | — |
| S.57—Research | … | … | … | 2·9 | 2·3 | 2·7 | 2·3 | 1·7 | 1·8 |
| (b) Transport (Grants) Act 1972 | … | … | … | — | 44·1 | — | — | — | — |
| (c) Railways Act 1974 | |||||||||
| S.3—Public Service Obligation (EEC Reg. 1191/69) | … | … | … | — | — | — | 99·0 | 297·8 | 306·7 |
| S.3—Level Crossings (EEC Reg. 1192/69) | … | … | … | — | — | — | 2·0 | 10·3 | 8·9 |
| (d) Appropriation Acts | |||||||||
| Cashflow shortfall grants (Revenue element) | … | … | … | — | — | 112·2 | 169·0 | — | — |
| Total Revenue | … | … | … | 132·8 | 168·8 | 239·5 | 444·0 | 314·5 | 318·2 |
| 2. Passenger Capital | |||||||||
| (a) Transport Act 1968 | |||||||||
| S.56—Infrastructure Grant | … | … | … | 2·3 | 18·1 | 25·4 | 27·9 | 8·2 | 7·0 |
| (b) Appropriation Acts | |||||||||
| Cashflow shortfall grants (Capital element) | … | … | … | — | 68·6 | 3·0 | 59·8 | — | — |
| Total Capital | … | … | … | 2·3 | 86·7 | 28·4 | 87·7 | 8·2 | 7·5 |
| 3. Freight Revenue | |||||||||
| (a) Appropriation Acts | |||||||||
| Revenue deficit grant | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | 82·6 | 39·3 |
* Estimates. | |||||||||
| £ million | |||||||||||
Outturn prices
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1971–72
| 1972–73
| 1973–74
| 1974–75
| 1975–76
| 1976–77 *
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| B. Other Central Government Subsidies | |||||||||||
| 1. Passenger Capital | |||||||||||
| New Bus Grant | … | … | … | … | … | 10·8 | 20·1 | 20·8 | 22·9 | 37·2 | 42·2 |
| 2. Freight Revenue | |||||||||||
| National Freight Corporation | … | … | … | … | … | 8·0 | 3·7 | 1·6 | — | 8·0 | 32·3 |
| Public Sector Ports | … | … | … | … | … | 6·4 | 3·8 | 1·9 | 1·1 | — | — |
| Freight Facilities Grant | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | 0·5 | 4·8 |
| LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES (ENGLAND) | |||||||||||
| 1. Passenger Revenue | |||||||||||
| Subsidies to BRB | … | … | … | … | … | — | 9·4 | 8·6 | 13·9 | 16·7 | 23·7 |
| Subsidies to bus, ferry and underground | … | … | … | … | … | 2·9 | 4·4 | 10·2 | 105·4 | 169·6 | 175·6 |
| Concessionary Fares | … | … | … | … | … | 4·9 | 10·4 | 15·6 | 40·0 | 67·1 | 81·6 |
| LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT (ENGLAND) | |||||||||||
| Investment in BR passenger services | … | … | … | … | … | — | 0·6 | 2·4 | 8·6 | 32·5 | 49·9 |
| £ million | |||||||||||
November 1975 prices
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1971–72
| 1972–73
| 1973–74
| 1974–75
| 1975–76
| 1976–77 *
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| B. Other Central Government Subsidies | |||||||||||
| 1. Passenger Capital | |||||||||||
| New Bus Grant | … | … | … | … | … | 24·4 | 40·8 | 37·1 | 31·4 | 40·8 | 38·3 |
| 2. Freight Revenue | |||||||||||
| National Freight Corporation | … | … | … | … | … | 14·3 | 6·0 | 2·4 | — | 8·2 | 30·0 |
| Public Sector Ports | … | … | … | … | … | 12·5 | 6·8 | 3·0 | 1·4 | — | — |
| Freight Facilities Grant | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | 0·5 | 4·5 |
| LOCAL GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES (ENGLAND) | |||||||||||
| 1. Passenger Revenue | |||||||||||
| Subsidies to BRB | … | … | … | … | … | — | 15·4 | 15·0 | 17·6 | 17·2 | 21·5 |
| Subsidies to bus, ferry and underground | … | … | … | … | … | 5·7 | 7·3 | 17·7 | 133·9 | 174·4 | 159·1 |
| Concessionary Fares | … | … | … | … | … | 9·7 | 17·2 | 27·1 | 50·8 | 69·0 | 73·9 |
| LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT (ENGLAND) | |||||||||||
| Investment in BR passenger services | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1·2 | 4·2 | 10·6 | 33·3 | 43·7 |
In addition Exchequer assistance is given through Rate Support Grant and Transport Supplementary Grant towards local authority investment in buses and underground railways but accurate estimate of subsidy flowing into investment of that nature cannot be made.
* Estimates.
Road Inquiries
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will publish in the Official Report details of: (a) the cost of counsel and (b) the cost of time of his own staff, for road inquiries in 1973, 1974 and 1975.
Counsel who appear on behalf of my Department are engaged and paid by the Treasury Solicitor's Department. I am told that the costs, including VAT, in 1973, 1974 and 1975 of counsel instructed by the Crown in regard to road inquiries in England and Wales were about £26,000, £52,000 and £42,000, respectively. I regret that the cost of the time spent by the staff of my Department in connection with trunk road inquiries cannot be separately apportioned.
Lead Pollution
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the estimated weight of tetraethyl lead which is discharged into the atmosphere per hour as a result of 1,000 motor cars per hour travelling slowly along a 100-yard section of a four-lane roadway; and what is the estimated effect following the change in the regulations on 30th November 1976 reducing the lead content in petrol.
It is estimated that the imposition of the new limit of 0·50 grammes per litre would result in a reduction from about 3·3 to 3·0 grammes in the total weight of lead emitted in the situation described. A further reduction could be expected with the introduction of the lower limit of 0·45 grammes per litre on 1st January 1978.
Vehicle Axle Weights
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's acceptance of EEC vehicle axle weight limits.
As I explained on 20th December last in answer to my right hon. Friend the Member for Bermondsey (Mr. Mellish)—[Vol. 923, c. 50.]—the EEC Council of Transport Ministers has considered preliminary proposals for limits on the weights and dimensions of the heaviest vehicles used in international traffic. It is now for the Commission to develop the proposals in more detail, and until it does so there is nothing further I can usefully add about the Government's position.
National Finance
Yachts And Motor Cruisers
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer for how long details of purchases and changes of ownership of yachts and motor cruisers have been notified to the Inland Revenue by the Registrar General of Shipping and Seamen
Details of purchases and changes of ownership of ships have been given by the Registrar of Shipping to the Inland Revenue for over 50 years.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what fiscal purpose is served by notifying details of purchases and changes of ownership of yachts and motor cruisers to the Inland Revenue.
The information concerning purchases and changes of ownership of ships is used by the Inland Revenue to ensure that steps are taken to assess any tax liability arising from the ownership of the vessels.
Income Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give details of the percentage of total personal incomes of the single person and married persons without children taken in income tax and employees' social security contributions in the EEC countries, the United States of America and Japan in each of the last five years for which figures are available.
I regret that information in the form requested is not available. The nearest information I am aware of relates to the earnings of the "Average Production Worker", defined in statistics published by the OECD as a worker who is earning a wage equivalent to the average earnings in the manufacturing sector in each particular year. The following tables show, for the two categories mentioned by the hon. Member, the combined income tax and employees social security contributions payable as a percentage of the Average Production
| A. SINGLE MAN | ||||||
| 1972 | 1973 | 1974 | ||||
| Belgium | … | … | … | 22 | 21 | 23 |
| Denmark | … | … | … | 40 | 41 | 43 |
| France | … | … | … | 15 | 15 | 16 |
| Germany | … | … | … | 30 | 31 | 33 |
| Ireland | … | … | … | 22 | 24 | 24 |
| Italy | … | … | … | 15 | 16 | 12 |
| Japan | … | … | … | 14 | 14 | 14 |
| Luxembourg | … | … | … | 25 | 26 | Not available |
| Netherlands | … | … | … | 32 | 34 | 35 |
| United Kingdom* | … | … | … | 26 | 27 | 31 |
| United States | … | … | … | 24 | 25 | 26 |
| B. MARRIED MAN WITH TWO CHILDREN | |||||||
| 1972 | 1973 | 1974 | |||||
| Belgium | … | … | … | … | 19 | 20 | 21 |
| Denmark | … | … | … | … | 34 | 34 | 38 |
| France | … | … | … | … | 8 | 8 | 8 |
| Germany | … | … | … | … | 21 | 23 | 23 |
| Ireland | … | … | … | … | 12 | 15 | 15 |
| Italy | … | … | … | … | 14 | 15 | 12 |
| Japan | … | … | … | … | 8 | 8 | 9 |
| Luxembourg | … | … | … | … | 15 | 16 | Not available |
| Netherlands | … | … | … | … | 30 | 31 | 31 |
| United Kingdom | … | … | … | … | 19 | 21 | 23 |
| United States | … | … | … | … | 15 | 17 | 17 |
| Notes: | |||||||
| (a) Figures include local income taxes where applicable. | |||||||
| (b) Children are assumed to be between 5 and 12 years old. | |||||||
| Source: "Revenue Statistics of OECD Member Countries 1965–74", Annex II, Tables 5 and 6. | |||||||
| * (The published figures for the single man in the United Kingdom in Table 5 are incorrect. The correct figures are shown above.) | |||||||
Consumer Durables
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what other categories of consumer durables, namely, motor vehicles, jewellery, pictures and antiques, are notified to the Inland Revenue; for how long this has taken place; and on whose authority this has been done.
Returns have been made to the Inland Revenue by auctioneers and persons carrying on a trade of dealing in tangible movable property under the provisions of Section 25(7) Taxes Management Act 1970. The first returns were called for in July 1969.
Inland Revenue (Registration Of Ownership)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what other categories of registered property, land, royalties, patents, copyrights, etc., are notified to the Inland Revenue by the registering agency; and on whose authority such instructions to notify have been issued. Worker's earnings in 1972–74. These are the only years for which this information has been published:
No returns are made to the Inland Revenue by any registering agency in respect of ownership of property, land, patents or copyrights. Particulars of changes of ownership and of leases of land and property are reported to the Inland Revenue by the transferee or lessee under the provisions of Section 28 Finance Act 1931.
Regional Employment Premium
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated loss of jobs in Wales as a result of the decision to withdraw regional employment premium.
The decision to withdraw regional employment premium was taken as part of a package of industrial measures and it is estimated that the effect of these measures taken as a whole will be to reduce unemployment during 1977 compared with what it would otherwise be.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what estimate he has made of the loss of income to industry in Scotland in the financial years 1977–78 and 1978–79, respectively, in consequence of the decision to abolish the regional employment premium.
It is estimated that payment of REP in Scotland in 1977–78 and 1978–79 would have been about £60 million in each year.
Capital Gains Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many staff in the Inland Revenue are involved in the administration of capital gains tax.
In local tax and collection offices the work of the various taxes is not segregated, so that a considerable proportion of the staff will be involved with capital gains tax work at one time or another. Overall, it is esti-
| TABLE 1 | |||||
| OVERSEAS EARNINGS FROM TRAVEL | |||||
| 1971 | 1972 | 1975 | 1974 | 1975 | |
| Germany (million Deutsche marks) | 5,324 | 5,973 | 5,883 | 6,022 | 7,014 |
| France (million francs) | 7,997 | 9,818 | 10,674 | 12,785 | 14,879 |
| Italy (billion lira) | 1,164 | 1,267 | 1,378 | 1,245 | 1,684 |
| Netherlands (million guilders) | 2,261 | 2,396 | 2,687 | 2,742 | 2,803 |
| Belgium and Luxembourg (million francs) | 17,979 | 19,500 | 25,100 | 27,800 | 32,400 |
| United Kingdom (million £s) | 488 | 550 | 682 | 837 | 1,114 |
| Ireland (million £s) | 79 | 66 | 83 | 85 | 103 |
| Denmark (million kroner) | 2,865 | 3,387 | 3,494 | 3,913 | 4,291 |
| TABLE 2 | ||||||
| OVERSEAS EARNINGS FROM TRAVEL AS A PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL OVERSEAS EARNINGS | ||||||
| 1971 | 1972 | 1975 | 1974 | 1975 | ||
| West Germany | … | 3·0 | 3·1 | 2·6 | 2·1 | 2·4 |
| France | … | 5·4 | 5·3 | 4·8 | 4·2 | 5·0 |
| Italy | … | 8·5 | 8·7 | 8·3 | 6·3 | 5·8 |
| Netherlands | … | 3·3 | 3·4 | 3·1 | 2·5 | 2·5 |
| Belgium and Luxembourg | … | 2·6 | 2·5 | 2·6 | 2·1 | 2·4 |
| United Kingdom | … | 3·4 | 3·6 | 3·4 | 3·2 | 3·7 |
| Ireland | … | 10·2 | 7·8 | 6·8 | 6·6 | 7·1 |
| Denmark | … | 7·4 | 7·8 | 6·3 | 5·7 | 6·0 |
| TABLE 3 | ||||||
| OVERSEAS EARNINGS FROM TRAVEL AS A PERCENTAGE OF TOTAL OVERSEAS EARNINGS | ||||||
| 1971 | 1972 | 1975 | 1974 | 1975 | ||
| West Germany | … | 13·6 | 14·3 | 12·9 | 11·5 | 12·3 |
| France | … | 17·6 | 17·9 | 16·8 | 15·2 | N.A. |
| Italy | … | 25·4 | 26·7 | 25·4 | 21·8 | 25·1 |
| Netherlands | … | 11·2 | 12·0 | 10·9 | 9·1 | 9·4 |
| Belgium and Luxembourg | … | 10·0 | 9·8 | 9·9 | 7·5 | 6·8 |
| United Kingdom | … | 8·9 | 9·0 | 8·3 | 8·5 | 10·1 |
| Ireland | … | 31·2 | 26·1 | 22·5 | 21·5 | N.A. |
| Denmark | … | 24·5 | 25·5 | 19·5 | 17·9 | N.A. |
| Sources: Eurostats, Balance of Payments, Tourism Policy and International Tourism, International Financial Statistics, National Sources. | ||||||
mated that the equivalent of about 1,550 full units of staff was taken up with this work in 1975–76.
Tourism (European Community Countries)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list, for each of the nine EEC Governments, their estimated overseas earnings from tourism, for each of the last five years; and what percentage this represents of: (a) their total overseas earnings and (b) their earnings on invisibles.
The information requested is given in the tables below. Figures in table 1 are in national currencies. The statistics necessarily relate to "travel", which excludes receipts from international transport but includes receipts from travellers other than tourists.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list, for each of the nine EEC countries, whether or not new hotels qualify as industrial buildings and receive capital allowances for taxation purposes; and what are the levels of such allowances in each country.
Except in the case of Ireland, hotel buildings are not regarded as industrial buildings, but they nevertheless qualify for tax allowances as buildings used for business purposes in the other EEC countries apart from the United Kingdom. On the rates of such allowance I would refer the hon. Member to the answer my hon. Friend gave him on 14th April 1976.—[Vol. 909, c. 609–10.] The only addition to be made to the information given then is that for hotels erected in certain areas of the Netherlands there is also an accelerated depreciation allowance of 25 per cent. of cost for each of the first two years, and an investment allowance of 8 per cent. of cost—not affecting annual allowances—for each of these years.
Low Incomes
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many people are currently estimated not to be paying income tax because their incomes are too low.
I regret that the information on which to base a firm estimate is not available. However, it is thought that the number of persons aged over 16 who are not liable to tax on their income, whether because it is insufficient or because it consists of a nontaxable benefit, is between 6½ million and 7 million, counting married couples as one.
Double Taxation (Brazil)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what progress has been made in the negotiations with the Government of Brazil concerning a comprehensive double taxation convention.
I am afraid I cannot say more than that negotiations are continuing.
Export Prices
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the statistical basis of his statement that the United Kingdom's exports are now more price-competitive than at any time in recent years.
My right hon. Friend is writing to his hon. Friend.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) whether he will publish in the Official Report the names of firms from which he has had direct reports of the high rate of export profitability; and whether he has any comparable evidence to the contrary;(2) what is his estimate of the reduction in United Kingdom export prices required to compensate for the loss of tariff and other preferences in the Irish Republic, EFTA and the Commonwealth.
I have been asked to reply and I will do so as soon as possible.
Sterling Balances
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) whether negotiations about the funding of the sterling balances will encompass the question of an appropriate rate for sterling over the period covered by any funding arrangement;(2) to what extent a funding of the sterling balances will involve the United Kingdom in incurring further long-term debt in order to maintain sterling at a level higher than that fixed by the market;(3) to what extent the decision not to allow the exchange rate to fall in line with the United Kingdom's continuing high rate of inflation will affect the problem of the sterling balances.
The discussions on a multilateral facility for the sterling balances have not focussed in any way on exchange rate policy, and the position in the latter respect remains as stated in the Letter of Intent to the IMF.
Export-Led Growth
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is satisfied that export-led growth will be achieved in 1977, if the exchange rate is allowed to appreciate as forecast by the National Institute for Economic and Social Research in spite of the United Kingdom's continuing higher rate of inflation.
For a given rate of domestic inflation an appreciation of the exchange rate in 1977 would reduce the price competitiveness of United Kingdom exports. There is, however, a long lag between changes in competitiveness and export volumes, so that exports in 1977 will reflect levels of competitiveness during the previous few years. Moreover the current competitive position is extremely favourable.
General Election Scrutineers (Pay)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much he proposes to pay scrutineers at the next General Election count; and how this compares with the sum paid in February and October 1974.
The use of scrutineers at election counts is a matter for candidates. However, the hon. Member may be referring to the payment of those persons employed by the acting returning officer to make the count. I am responsible for payments to returning officers to meet these and other election expenses. The amounts at present payable are set out in Statutory Instruments 1974 Nos. 179 and 1497. These amounts will be reviewed immediately before the next election.
Double Taxation (United States Of America)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects that the Convention between Her Majesty's Government and the Government of the United States of America on double taxation signed on 31st December 1975 will be ratified.
The two orders in question will be debated in this House on 12th January. The proposed new Convention cannot, of course, enter into force until ratification processes have been completed in both countries.
Banking Industry (Nationalisation)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many letters, memoranda and other written representations he has received from members of the public on the nationalisation of the banking industry; and what proportion of these has been opposed to any such nationalisation.
Since 1st January 1976 other Treasury Ministers and I have received six letters from members of the general public on the nationalisation of the banking industry: five of these letters have been opposed to nationalisation.
Public Supplies Contracts (Draft Eec Directive)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what is the present position regarding the draft EEC Second Directive;(2) what is the present position regarding the draft EEC Second Directive on Public Supplies Contracts.
The EEC Directive on Public Supplies Contracts was adopted by the Council on 21st December. I will arrange for a copy of the directive to be made available in the Library of the House as soon as possible. The provisions of the directive are expected to come into effect in 18 months' time, and we are consulting British industry as to how best to ensure that everything possible is done to help them to meet the challenge which it represents.
Foreign Manufactures (Purchase)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will issue instructions designed to discourage applications for foreign currency if the purpose of the application is the purchase of foreign manufactures for which British equivalents are available.
Such action would be inconsistent with our international trade and payments obligations.
Parliamentary Questions
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what criteria he uses in assessing the value of information given in answer to a Question from an hon. Member and the cost of obtaining the information by his Department when refusing to provide information on the grounds of disproportionate costs involved.
I am normally prepared to provide information in response to all Questions posed by hon. Members but where it would appear that the cost of collecting the necessary material would be considerable I think that it is right for me to draw this to the attention of the hon. Member concerned. It is difficult to prescribe general criteria for deciding whether disproportionate cost is involved in preparing the answer to a Question. The assessment must depend upon the circumstances of each case. Security considerations apart, it would be appropriate to consider whether a matter of major public importance is raised, and whether the withholding of a reply would unjustifiably inhibit the work of the House, or its hon. Members. If my hon. Friend has a particular case in mind and cares to write to me I shall, of course, look into it.
Nationalised Industry (Foreign Currency)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the nationalised industries and the amount of foreign currency they were each granted during the latest six months period for which information is available; and if he will give an aggregate net figure in respect of their overseas trade.
Nationalised industries meet their needs for foreign currency by buying on the open market.Their foreign currency borrowing is normally undertaken to finance their activities in the United Kingdom, and the proceeds are converted into sterling, either via the Exchange Equalisation Account, if the money has been borrowed under the Exchange Cover Scheme, or on the open market if they have borrowed uncovered. The amounts borrowed by nationalised industries and by the National Water Council in the second half of 1976 were:
| $ equivalent at date of draw-down | |
| British Gas Corporation | $15 million |
| National Coal Board | $244 million |
| National Water Council | $500 million |
| Post Office | $112 million |
| British Rail | $52 million |
| Electricity Council | $545 million |
| South of Scotland Electricity Board | $75 million |
| British Steel Corporation | $97 million |
I understand that the National Economic Development Office, as part of its study of the United Kingdom nationalised industries, will shortly be publishing a background paper on their imports and exports, and this may be helpful to my hon. Friend.
Community Land Act (Expenditure)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report an amended version of the table on page 75 of the White Paper on Public Expenditure to 1979–80, taking account of the proposed cuts in spending on the Community Land Act during the next two financial years; and if he will publish details of the proposed level of spending at 1976 survey prices under the Community Land Act in each of the next three financial years.
Details of the Government's plans for expenditure under the Community Land Scheme will be set out in the next White Paper.The effect of the cuts in spending for 1977–78 and 1978–79 on acres bought and sold cannot be forecast precisely, but the level of activity under the scheme during the next two years is likely to be of the order of 60 per cent. of that assumed in the original programme.
British Petroleum
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what provision has been made to restore the Government-controlled shareholding in BP if the Burmah shareholders succeed in their claim against the Bank of England.
I have already made it clear that I see little chance of that action succeeding.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if the Government retained their present shareholding, plus the stock held by the Bank of England in BP, what is the estimated return on this stock over the next 20 years;(2) what is the estimated return over the next 20 years if the Government hold 51 per cent. of the BP stock;(3) what is the estimated return over the next 20 years if the Government-controlled shareholding in BP is depleted by a successful legal action by Burmah shareholders.
It is not possible to forecast the return on the stock over so long a period.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the BP shares at present held by the Government are sold internally, what will be the effect on the sale of gilts and other Government stock.
The effect of a sale of any shares held by the Bank of England or the Government would be to reduce the PSBR and thus to reduce the volume of public sector debt which needs to be sold to the non-Bank private sector in order to achieve the target for DCE. It is not thought that it would have more than a temporary effect on the sale of Government stocks.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when it is contemplated that the sale of Government holdings in BP will take place.
No decision has yet been taken on the precise timing.
Child Tax Allowances
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the tax forgone in 1976–77 as a result of allowances for children not resident in the United Kingdom; what is his estimate of the number of: (a) children and (b) parents or guardians involved; and what would be his estimates on each of the foregoing if the allowances were reduced to £195 for first children and £170 for other children.
I will let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Factory Building (Development Commission Programme)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the increasing resources being made available to the Scottish and Welsh Development Agencies, what extra funds he is allocating to the Development Commission for its projected factory building programme in 1977–78 and beyond.
I recognise the value of the work of the Development Com- mission. Any extra funds for the Commission would have to be found from the totals announced on 15th December, but no decision has so far been taken to allocate more to it.
Multinational Companies
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the total amount of increased tax assessments which have been made on multinational companies as a result of the work of the special unit set up to investigate pricing policies.
I will let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the special unit investigating the pricing policies of multinational companies is co-operating with any foreign tax authorities; and if he will list them.
I will let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied with the cooperation from industry towards the special unit investigating the pricing policies of multinational companies.
I will let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has received any complaints about the activities of the special unit set up to investigate the pricing policies of multinational companies; and if he will indicate from whom he has received them.
I will let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Money Supply (Christmas)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give the total banknotes in issue during the recent Christmas period; to what extent this had increased over the period immediately prior to Christmas; how much in excess of the summer holiday peak period this amount was; and how much over the Christmas 1975 period.
The Bank of England's note issue stood at £7,375 million on 21st December, the highest point it reached over the Christmas period. On 1st December 1976 the note issue stood at £6,775 million. During the summer of 1976 the value of bank notes in issue reached a peak of £6,800 million on 3rd August; and on 19th December 1975 bank notes in issue totalled £6,600 million.
Tourism Expenditure
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, for taxation purposes, he differentiates, or intends to differentiate, on bills paid for goods and services in shops, restaurants, cafeterias, hotels, boarding houses, self-catering apartments, air fares, rail fares, bus fares, taxi fares, and hairdressers, between those who are, and those who are not United Kingdom citizens or others liable for direct taxation in the United Kingdom, regardless of income.
I will let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list, for each EEC member country, the items of ex-
| PERCENTAGE INCREASE COMPARED WITH THE MONTHLY AVERAGE FOR YEAR 1970 | ||||
| Exports | Imports | |||
| Value | Volume | Value | Volume | |
| October 1976 | 226 | 32 | 355 | 106 |
| November 1976 | 236 | 32 | 310 | 92 |
| CHANGE IN THE UNITED STATES DOLLAR PRICES OF MACHINERY AND TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT EXPORTS (SITC SECTION 7) | |||
| Percentages | |||
| United Kingdom | West Germany | Japan | |
| 1970 to latest available date | +82 | +113 | +73 |
| 1973 to latest available date | +39 | +37 | +24 |
| 1974 to latest available date | +22 | +24 | +7 |
| 1975 to latest available date | Nil | +5 | +6 |
| The latest available dates are November 1976 for the United Kingdom; the third quarter of 1976 for West Germany; and July 1976 for Japan. | |||
| Note: SITC 7 covers machinery and transport equipment, within which machinery is defined as SITC 71 + 72. As information for West Germany and Japan is not available for machinery alone, figures are given for SITC Section 7 as a whole. | |||
penditure paid by "tourists" which are subject to additional taxation for the sole cases that the expenditure concerned is incurred by a "tourist" to or in the country concerned.
I will let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what definition of a "tourist" he uses in answer to questions on taxation of tourists.
I will let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Machinery Imports And Exports
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the percentage increase in the value and volume of imports and exports of machinery in October and November compared with 1970; and what was the estimated ratio to sales in the United Kingdom of United Kingdom machinery.
I have been asked to reply. Figures of trade in machinery are:
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the percentage increase in the export price of machinery (SITC 7) in November compared with 1970, in dollar terms; how this compares with the latest figures published for Germany and Japan; and what were the corresponding figures compared with 1973, 1974 and 1975.
I have been asked to reply. The figures are as follows:
Exports (Unfulfilled Orders)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what changes there have been in the ratio of unfulfilled export orders to export sales of capital goods in the United Kingdom between 1972 and the latest available date in terms of a month's sales; and how the figures compare with the corresponding figures for Germany.
| LENGTHS OF EXPORT ORDER BOOKS OF CAPITAL GOODS* IN TERMS OF SALES | ||||||
| United Kingdom | West Germany | |||||
| Engineering Products | Shipbuilding | Combined Index | Capital Goods Industries | |||
| Period† | Ratio of ‡ export orders-on-hand to export sales(In terms of average monthly sales) | Engineering and shipbuilding together in index form(1970=100) | Ratio of Index of the value of export order books to the index of export to export sales(1970=100) | |||
| 1970 year | … | … | 9·4 | 55·4 | 100·0 | 100·0 |
| 1972 third quarter | … | … | 10·2 | 42·6 | 92·2 | Not available |
| 1973 third quarter | … | … | 11·8 | 31·5 | 89·8 | Not available |
| 1974 third quarter | … | … | 12·7 | 67·0 | 128·3 | 95·7 |
| 1975 third quarter | … | … | 10·7 | 39·5 | 91·6 | 93·8 |
| 1976 third quarter | … | … | 9·5 | 26·5 | 73·5 | 93·9 |
| * Statistics available for capital goods in West German publications are in index form only and include engineering products and shipbuilding, together with steel structures and goods, aircraft and motor vehicles. Comparable statistics for all these industries are not available for the United Kingdom but engineering products and shipbuilding are the major components; these are combined in column 3 for comparison with the German data. | ||||||
| † The latest statistics in all cases are for the third quarter of 1976; the statistics for years 1972 to 1975 also relate to the third quarter. Order books in constant price, quantity or value index form refer to the end of period; these are divided by average monthly sales in the period in similar terms. | ||||||
| ‡ Ratios for United Kingdom engineering products are derived from export orders and sales-both valued at 1970 prices. For United Kingdom shipbuilding, ratios are based on tonnages of ships on order to annual deliveries, at monthly rates. | ||||||
Social Services
Residential Care
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average weekly cost per head to the local authority of residential care for (a) children and (b) elderly persons living in (i) local authority homes, (ii) local authority hostels and (iii) voluntary homes where they are placed and paid for by the local authority for each year since 1970–71.
I will let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the residential establishments in each regional planning area providing places for young people under the Children and Young Persons Act 1969, indicating the number of available places and the num-
I have been asked to reply.The information as far as it is available is given in the following table. It is not possible to provide the required data for the two countries on a completely comparable basis owing to differences in definition, availability and presentation of the respective statistics.ber of places required in each of the years 1974, 1975 and 1976 to date and any additional places to be provided in 1977.
I am afraid it is not possible without disproportionate effort to provide the information requested. I will be writing to the hon. Member.
Self-Employed Persons (National Insurance Contributions)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the percentage difference in national insurance contributions paid by a self-employed person earning £4,900 comparing February 1974 with the present.
A self-employed person with profits or gains of £4,900 per annum pays class 2 (flat-rate) and class 4 (earnings-related) contributions totalling approximately 8 per cent. of that amount.
In February 1974, the same person would only have been paying flat-rate contributions, which then amounted to approximately 2·1 per cent. of £4,900.
Chaseley Home, Eastbourne
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated cost to public funds of operating the Chaseley Home for ex-Service men in Eastbourne during the current financial year; and what was the cost for the year ended 5th April 1976.
The home is administered and maintained by a charitable trust—The Chaseley Trust—but my Department pays an agreed rate for each disabled war pensioner resident there on account of his war disablement. In addition, some beds in the home are available to other disabled persons under arrangements with the area health authority.The total estimated cost to public funds during the current financial year is £220,000. The cost for 1975–76 was £190,890.
Unemployment Benefit
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will take action to ensure the provision of unemployment benefit for persons rendered unemployed by industrial disputes in which they are not themselves directly involved.
As from 1st February 1977, a person who is unemployed because of a trade dispute in which he is not participating or directly interested will no longer have to prove that he is not financing the dispute and that he does not belong to a grade or class of workers, any of whom are participating in or financing or directly interested in the dispute, in order to establish his entitlement to unemployment benefit. This change is effected by Section 111 of the Employment Protection Act 1975, which repeals part of Section 19(1) of the Social Security Act 1975.
Invalid Vehicles
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider a prototype four-wheeled vehicle in place of the three-wheeled invalid tricycle, as an alternative to the mobility allowance.
I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Members for Arundel (Mr. Marshall). Coventry, North-East (Mr. Park) and Altrincham and Sale (Mr. Montgomery) on 16th December.—[Vol. 922, c. 825–7.] The letter referred to in that reply is now being sent to all tricycle users and also to all recipients of the private car allowance.
Parliamentary Questions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what criteria he uses in assessing the value of information given in answer to a Question from an hon. Member and the cost of obtaining the information by his Department when refusing to provide information on the grounds of disproportionate cost.
I am normally prepared to provide information in response to all Questions posed by hon. Members, but where it would appear that the cost of collecting the necessary material would be very substantial I think that it is right for me to draw this to the attention of the hon. Member concerned. It is difficult to prescribe general criteria for deciding whether disproportionate cost is involved in preparing the answer to a Question. The assessment must depend upon the circumstances of each case.If my hon. Friend has a particular case in mind and cares to write to me, I shall of course look into this.
Retinitis Pigmentosa
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if people suffering from retinitis pigmentosa are enabled to receive treatment abroad on the National Health Service.
I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Dundee, East (Mr. Wilson) on 26th October 1976.—[Vol. 918, c. 143–5.]
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what research is currently being undertaken in the United Kingdom to find a cure for retinitis pigmentosa.
The Medical Research Council is the main Government-funded body conducting or supporting research into this disease. The council's clinical and population cytogenetics unit in Edinburgh and its human biochemical genetics unit in London have begun a study of some aspects of the genetics of this disease. Other work in such fields as neurochemistry, visual physiology and cell biology which may be relevant in the long term is also being undertaken.The council has set up a working group on treatment for the disease and expects to consider proposals for further research.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people are currently suffering from retinitis pigmentosa; and if he will break the figure down into age categories.
Although there are no official figures for retinitis pigmentosa sufferers, informed estimates suggest that there are between 10,000 and 25,000 in the United Kingdom. Since the onset of retinitis pigmentosa normally occurs early in life but the disease does not usually shorten life expectancy, sufferers are fairly evenly distributed between age groups.
Windscale Employees (Medical Records)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report details of the medical records of four former employees at Windscale.
Medical records are confidential documents and the preservation of their confidentiality is a cardinal point of medical ethics. It would be improper for me to publish details of individual medical records in the Official Report or elsewhere.
Smoking
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now take further action on the restriction of smoking in public places in the light of the evidence of practice in other countries sent to him by the hon. Member for Brent, South.
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for sending to me the results of a survey by Action on Smoking and Health (ASH) on smoking in public places in 20 European countries. I am at present considering steps which might lead to an increase in tobacco smoke-free areas in public places in this country as part of the development of the Government's strategy on smoking and health. Although some progress has been made in recent years in providing areas free from tobacco smoke, I believe public opinion among smokers and non-smokers alike would support further provision.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in view of the official report that smoking kills between one third and one half of smokers he will introduce legislation to make smoking illegal.
No.
Fluoridation
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further action he will take to ensure fluoride prevention of dental caries in children.
I shall continue to encourage fluoridation of water supplies, since this is by far the most effective means of ensuring the prevention of dental caries in the community.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now permit dental practitioners to prescribe sodium fluoride tablets for children up to the age of 16 years on form FP10: what is his estimate of the cost of so doing; and if he will make a statement.
Experience has shown that the use of fluoride tablets is not a satisfactory community health measure, particularly since the necessary regularity of administration throughout the years of tooth formation is rarely achieved. I therefore prefer to encourage the fluoridation of water supplies, which is a far more effective means of protecting the community against dental caries. The cost of enabling dentists to prescribe fluoride tablets in the National Health Service cannot reliably be estimated.
Training Opportunities Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the total cost to public funds of social security benefits to persons on TOPs course, while they were on the course during the last 12 months for which figures are available; what was the average weekly benefit for such an individual; and if he will give a break-down of that weekly figure by constituent benefits.
Attendance at a TOPs course does not, in itself, attract the payment of any social security benefit. Certain benefits, such as widowed mother's allowance or industrial disablement benefit, may continue in payment to persons who go on these courses, and in certain circumstances supplementary benefit could be payable as a supplement to a training allowance, but no information is available as to the cost of benefits so paid.
Centenarians
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will consider introducing a payment of £100 when persons reach their centenary.
No. I appreciate the sentiments behind my hon. Friend's Question, but quite apart from economic constraints, I cannot accept that there is a case for lump sum payments of this order.
Animal Fats
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in view of the various official reports that heart disease and loss of life resulting therefrom is due to eating animal fats, such as butter, and so on, he will introduce legislation to ban the sale of such products.
No. As various official reports have made clear, the significance for health of the proportions of various types of fat in the diet is an extremely complex matter on which professional opinions vary. I know of no reports which have recommended the total exclusion of animal fat from the diet.
Mental Patients
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he has made of the numbers of patients in Scottish psychiatric hospitals who have now claimed the non-contributory invalidity pension.
Many of the patients in psychiatric hospitals receive contributory invalidity pension while they are of working age. Hospitals were asked to identify those who do not, and to claim noncontributory invalidity pension on their behalf, where the patient did not have a relative looking after his affairs and could not claim personally. By mid-November 1975, when payment of noncontributory invalidity pension began, claims had been made in respect of almost 7,000 such patients in Scottish hospitals. Since then there have been about a further 4,000 claims in all for non-contributory invalidity pension in Scotland, but I regret that it is not possible to say how many were in respect of hospital in-patients.
Community Health Councils (National Association)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of the implication for public expenditure, he will defer implementation of the decision recently taken by the community health councils to form a national association.
At their national conference on 3rd November representatives of community health councils resolved that a national association should be set up without delay and that I should be asked to make the necessary regulations under the National Health Service Reorganisation Act 1973 to enable an association to be established. I respect the views of the minority of community health councils, which is opposed to a national association being set up without delay, but I have decided that the wishes of the majority should he met. Membership of the proposed association would be optional. Much of the expenses of the association will relate to the continued provision of the news magazine and other information services for community health councils, the cost of which is already being met from Exchequer funds. I am satisfied that the extra cost will be relatively small.
Consultants (Hammersmith Hospital)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has received the report regarding the charging of fees by whole-time NHS consultants at Hammersmith Hospital.
No, the Area Health Authority (Teaching) has not yet completed its investigations. In the meantime, the practice to which my hon. Friend refers has ceased.
Whooping Cough Vaccine
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will now institute a public inquiry into the incidence of brain damage caused to some children vaccinated against whooping cough; if he is satisfied that the vaccinations available under the NHS are not causing brain damage; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will list the names of all the manufacturers of whooping cough vaccine whose vaccines are available under the NHS; and what discussions he has had with all of them on the incidence of brain damage suffered by some children who have been vaccinated against whooping cough.
I am considering the matter and will let the hon. Member have a full reply shortly.
Occupational Pensions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on his consultations following publication of the White Paper, Cmnd. 6514, concerning the role of members in the running of occupational pension schemes.
My right hon. Friend and I have had extensive and productive consultations with individuals and organisations with an interest in occupational pension schemes. Our consultations are continuing.