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Written Answers

Volume 935: debated on Monday 11 July 1977

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 11th July 1977

Brent Community Law Centre

asked the Attorney-General whether he will conduct an inquiry into the activities of the Brent Community Law Centre.

No. My noble Friend and I have no responsibility for the activities of the Brent Community Law Centre.

Industrial Tribunals

asked the Attorney-General what proposals his noble Friend has for making regulations under Section 109 of the Employment Protection Act 1975.

My noble Friend's power under Section 109 is to make an order giving industrial tribunals

TOBACCO CONSUMPTION
lbs per head of population
196519661967196819691970197119721973
United Kingdom4·74·74·74·64·54·54·34·54·7
United States7·47·27·06·96·66·66·46·66·7
Ireland4·64·64·54·54·54·44·44·54·6
Norway3·63·73·83·83·93·73·63·83·8
Denmark6·36·16·26·06·26·26·06·26·2
Source: Tobacco Research Council (Research Paper No. 6).
Business Monitor PQ 240 provides an alternative and more up to date source for the United Kingdom. The corresponding figure for 1973 is 5·0, for 1974 4·9, for 1975 4·5 and for 1976 4· lbs per head of population.

Cars And Machinery

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was Great Britain's share of world exports of (a) motor cars, (b) construction and mining machinery and (c) office machinery in 1956 and in 1976.

The United Kingdom percentage share of the value of OECD member countries' relevant exports measured in United States dollars are as follows:

19561975
Motor Cars22·04·4
(SITC 732·1)
Construction & Mining Machinery12·28·2
(SITC 718·4 and 719·31)

jurisdiction to hear claims for breach of contract. Implementation of this provision, which would involve an increase in public service manpower, is at present delayed by the need to contain public expenditure. The order will be made when circumstances permit.

Trade

Smoking

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will publish a table, in conjunction with that published in his answer to the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Mr. Winterton) showing the consumption of tobacco, per head of the population in the United Kingdom and the United States of America, Ireland, Norway and Denmark; and if he will make a statement.

The available information is as follows:

Office Machinery (including Computers)13·211·3
(SITC 714)
Source: OECD Statistics of Foreign Trade and UN Commodity Trade Statistics. Figures for world exports of these commodities are not available. OECD members account for about 80 per cent. of world exports of manufactures.

Machinery

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the increase in United Kingdom exports of machinery in the three months February to April 1977 compared with the same period in 1976; and what are the comparable figures for the United States of America, Germany, Japan, France, Italy, Belgium and Holland.

The latest available information is as follows:

EXPORTS OF MACHINERY AND TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT (SITC SECTION 7) PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN THE LATEST THREE MONTHS ON THE SAME PERIOD A YEAR EARLIER
Per centPeriod
United Kingdom5·0February 1977–April 1977
United States of America5·4February 1977–April 1977.
Federal Republic of Germany25·7November 1976–January 1977.
Japan32·0December 1976–February 1977.
France11·9December 1976–February 1977.
Italy9·5October 1976–December 1976.
Belgium28·9October 1976–December 1976.
Holland51·4November 1976–January 1977.
Source: OECD Statistics of Foreign Trade Series A June 1977.
Up-to-date information on machinery alone is not available.

Tourism

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he is satisfied that adequate facilities exist for coping with the present levels of incoming tourists; and what action he is taking, independently and in co-ordination with local authorities and other interested parties, to effect improvements.

Professional Qualifications (International Recognition)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether proposals are still being considered by the EEC for the mutual recognition of qualifications and freedom of establishment, throughout the Community of architects, nurses,

ProfessionSecretary of State/Minister responsibleStage Reached
ArchitectsEnvironmentDraft directive under consideration by Council Working Group.
NursesSocial ServicesTwo directives on general nurses were adopted by the Council on 27th June 1977.
MidwivesSocial ServicesDraft directives under consideration by Council Working Group.
DentistsSocial ServicesDraft directives under consideration by Council Working Group.
PharmacistsSocial ServicesDraft directives which were put to the Council by the Commission in 1969 have been formally withdrawn. The Commission is expected to put forward further proposals to the Council during 1977.
Veterinary SurgeonsAgriculture, Fisheries and Food.Draft directive under consideration by Council Working Group.
Chartered Accountants and Financial Advisers.TradeThe Commission is thought to be considering producing a proposal on this subject; they are already working on one on auditors' qualifications.

Textiles(Airfreight Rate)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make representations to reinstate the North Atlantic

midwives, dentists, pharmacists, veterinary surgeons, chartered accountants and financial advisers; and what stage discussion upon any proposals has reached in the case of each profession.

The Treaty of Rome already provides for freedom of establishment throughout the Community. However, differences in the qualifications required for the pursuit of a variety of professions and in the arrangements which govern professional activities in the member States can impede free establishment. The Commission has therefore proposed, and will continue to propose, measures designed to promote the mutal recognition of professional qualifications. Responsibility for the consideration and negotiation of draft directives rests in this country with the Government Department which sponsors the profession concerned.textile airfreight rate, which was cancelled following the renegotiation of the Bermuda Agreement.

Representations have been made to the United States Government about the CAB's rejection of British Airways' contract rates and bulk commodity rates. Their action is not the result of renegotiation of the Bermuda Agreement and the tariffs article of the new agreement will help to avoid such disputes in future.

Steel (Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) what is the volume of imports of tool and high-speed steel which he expects to enter the United Kingdom from Austria during 1977 and 1978; and what was the volume actually imported during 1976;(2)what is the volume of imports of stainless steel billets which he expects to enter the United Kingdom from Spain during 1977 and 1978; and what was the volume imported during 1976;(3)what is the volume of steel sections and flats which he expects to be imported into the United Kingdom from South Africa during 1977 and 1978; and what was the volume imported during 1976;(4)what is the volume of steel sections and flats imported from Spain during 1976; and what is his estimate of the volume which will be imported during 1977 and 1978.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade when he expects to be informed of the result of the investigation into the imports of tool steel from Sweden which was announced on 9th May.

Because this investigation had not been completed when responsibility for anti-dumping action passed to the European Commission on 1st July, we are now considering with the industry the question of the submission of the case to Brussels.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade when he expects to be informed of the results of current consideration of the importation of steel sections and flats from Japan.

A substantive duty of £11 per tonne was imposed on 7th July on non-alloy steel light sections from Japan, following my Department's completion of its investigation into claims that this product was being imported into the United Kingdom from Japan at dumped prices. The evidence concerning imports of non-alloy steel flat bars from Japan is currently being evaluated and an announcement will be made shortly.

Israel

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a statement on the recent trade figures for trade with Israel.

As is apparent from the answers that I gave on 29th June 1977 and 4th July 1977, over the 12-month period to the end of May 1977 our exports to Israel increased in value by 5 per cent. over the previous corresponding period. The value of total trade between the United Kingdom and Israel increased over the same period by 17 per cent.

Hotel Development

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was estimated to be the total cost of the hotel development incentive scheme at the time of the passing of the Development of Tourism Act 1969; and what the scheme has finally cost.

The Financial Memorandum associated with the passage of the statute stated that the future rate could not be closely estimated but that it was possible that annual expenditure could rise to about £8 million. The first year of effective expenditure was 1970–71. Actual expenditure to the end of the last financial year has been about £57 million. A handful of claims are still outstanding.

Whisky

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what representations he has made in respect of proposals from the Association of Distillers of Australian Whisky to the Temporary Assistance Authority, Canberra, that imports of Scotch whisky should be restricted to 70 or 80 per cent. of 1975–76 imports, with imports over this quota paying a $6 per litre surcharge.

, pursuant to his reply[Official Report, 5th July 1977; Vol 934, col. 480], gave the following information:Her Majesty's Government have expressed their concern to the Australian authorities in support of the representations made by the Scotch Whisky Association to the Temporary Assistance Authority.

Northern Ireland

Royal Ulster Constabulary (Canteens)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what are arrangements for the Royal Ulster Constabulary at subdivisional levels.

ShipOwnerDWTType of ship
1704Woodstock Shipping Company Limited333,000Tanker.
1705Pomona Shipping Company Limited333,000Tanker.
1708Golden West117,850Bulk Carrier.
1709Furness Withy and Company Limited66,000Tanker
1710Furness Withy and Company Limited66,000Tanker
1711Consortium of United Kingdom bankers (for charter to shell)58,950 cubic metres.LPG Carrier
1712Consortium of United Kingdom bankers (for charter to shell)58,950 cubic metres.LPG Carrier.
Ship No. 1704 is due for delivery before the end of 1977. Ships No. 1705–1710 are due for delivery by January 1979. The recently ordered Shell ships (Nos. 1711–1712) are due to be delivered in 1980.

Royal Victoria Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what inquiry has been made into allegations of terrorist intimidation and interference at the Royal Victoria Hospital, Belfast; and whether he will make a statement.

The Royal Victoria Hospital site has been subjected to theft, attacks upon staff, vandalism and other forms of crime some of which is terrorist inspired. In all cases these matters are reported to and investigated by the police. The administration of the hospital is the responsibility of the Eastern Health and Social Services Board, which is paying close attention to the situation. I am naturally concerned that there should be an early improvement.

Scottish And Welsh Assemblies

38.

The canteen arrangements at all RUC stations vary according to need at each location. Where restaurant facilities are not available, stations are provided with self-catering facilities, supplemented, where necessary, by machine catering. The Police Authority for Northern Ireland is currently reviewing canteen facilities at all RUC stations.

Shipbuilding

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the current order book for ships being built by Harland and Wolff.

Yes. Harland and Wolff Limited currently has seven ships on its order book. The details are:present situation regarding recruitment of civil servants for the proposed Scottish and Welsh Assemblies.

We shall seek to ensure, in the light of progress, that staff for the Scottish Assembly and civil servants for the Scottish Executive and the Welsh Assembly are available when they are required.

House Of Commons

Refreshment Department

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will take steps to provide a decent standard of lavatories, locker accommodation and washrooms for the staff of the House of Commons Refreshment Department, and to ensure that no one is engaged without a medical check and that all staff have periodic medical checks.

I have been asked to reply.The present welfare conditions of the staff of the Refreshment Department are not adequate. Lavatories and washrooms are of a reasonable standard, but are not now sufficient for our permanent staff. The provision of additional rest-room accommodation is being considered, but accommodation within the House is dependent on the outcome of the scheme for changes mentioned in paragraph 5:6 of the report of the Committee of Inquiry into the Refreshment Department.In the interests of hygiene, staff are expected to co-operate with the health authorities at all times. Other medical checks are not considered necessary by the Treasury Medical Adviser.

the Lord President of the Council if he will bring forward proposals to establish two consumer councils, one for staff and one for Members, to facilitate communication between the catering staff and their customers thus removing the need for a Catering Sub-Committee.

I have no such proposals to make at the present time. The managerial functions of the present Catering Sub-Committee extend considerably beyond those of a consumer council.

asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will initiate discussions with the appropriate authorities in the other place on the desirability of placing all catering arrangements within the Palace of Westminster under a single management for operational purposes and to maximise efficiency and best use of resources.

I have noted my hon. Friend's suggestion, but any such initiative must clearly depend on the wishes of both Houses.

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will bring forward proposals to make the Refreshment Department a full department of the House of Commons with a budget borne on the Vote of the House.

I believe that proposals along these lines would be in the general interests of the House. If the House agrees to the establishment of the new departmental structure proposed in the Bottomley Report, on which it is intended to bring forward legislation, this might provide the appropriate framework for such a change.

asked the Lord President of the Council when he expects to submit proposals to write off the bank overdraft and terminate the private banking arrangements of the House of Commons Refreshment Department.

In the Government's view it is essential that the Refreshment Department should first introduce a proper system of budgetary control. Consideration will then be given to the present overdraft.

Her Majesty's Stationery Office (Disputes)

40.

asked the Lord President of the Council what representations he has received regarding the industrial dispute at Her Majesty's Stationery Office.

I have received no formal representations about either of the recent disputes. Several hon. Members have spoken to me and I have received a letter from local officers of the unions.

Palace Of Westminster

asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will arrange for the Palace of Westminster to be floodlit all the year round.

Civil Service

Public Expenditure

27.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what recent representations he has received from the Civil Service unions regarding cuts in public expenditure.

I have received one representation in recent weeks about the planned reductions in expenditure on Civil Service manpower and related administration.

Government Hospitality

30.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service which, if any, companies he has recommended be excluded from use by the Government hospitality unit; and for what reasons.

Dispersal

31.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what progress is expected in the next 12 months on the policy of dispersal of Civil Service jobs to the regions.

About 2,000 jobs are expected to be dispersed from London to the regions.

Government Advertising ("Morning Star")

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what were the five Government advertisements which appeared in the Morning Star at a total cost of£1,490.

The five Government advertisements to appear in the Morning Star were on behalf of the counter-inflation publicity campaign; the Royal Commission on Legal Services; the Employment Protection Act: the youth employment subsidy; the Equal Opportunities Commission.

House Of Commons (Official Report Of Debates)

asked the Minister for the Civil Service when the Official Report for 18th May last will be printed; and if he will outline full reasons for the delay.

The official Report for 18th May last will be printed as soon as possible. The delay is the result of recent industrial relations difficulties at St. Stephen's Parliamentary Press and the need to produce the volume of current Parliamentary papers.

Industry

Planning

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will set up a planning unit within his Department.

No. Adequate arrangements for ensuring the fullest consideration of all aspects of my right hon. Friend's responsibilities already exist.

British Aerospace

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has yet approved a capital investment programme for the British Aerospace Corporation.

British Aerospace's capital investment programme will be covered in its corporate plan: the first plan has to be formulated in 1978.

Shipbuilding (Polish Orders)

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what progress has been made in placing orders for Polish ships in British shipyards; and in particular, what orders are being placed in Sunderland shipyards.

A negotiating team went to Warsaw again last week to continue negotiations for this important deal. But my right hon. Friend will not expect me to disclose any of the commercial details at this stage of negotiations, nor is it possible at this stage to say to which yards orders would be allocated.

British Steel Corporation

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he expects to receive the British Steel Corporation's report and accounts for 1976–77.

My right hon. Friend expects to receive the report and accounts shortly before their publication on 19th July.

European Community (Council Of Ministers)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many meetings of the Council of Ministers, Ministers from the Department of Industry attended or presided over during the period of Great Britain's presidency of the EEC; and what advances in European industrial policy were made during this period.

There were no meetings of the Council of Ministers to discuss industrial policy matters. Progress in European industrial policy in a number of areas was carried forward at official level.The Minister of State for Industry, my hon. Friend the Member for Manchester, Ardwick (Mr. Kaufman) chaired a meeting of the Council of Ministers (Research) on 28th-29th March. The meeting was also attended by the Under-Secretary of State, my hon. Friend the Member for Nuneaton (Mr. Huckfield).

Manufactures

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish estimates for the United Kingdom, Germany, Japan and the United States of America, in

EXPORT UNIT VALUE INDIES FOR MANUFACTURED GOODS IN DOMESTIC CURRENCIES
1955I960196519701975197
United Kingdom65727910019323
Federal Republic of Germany889497100131134
Japan939788100195195
United States of America698184100159170
Source: United Nations Monthly Bulletin of Statistics.
DOMESTIC WHOLESALE PRICES OF MANFACTURED PRODUCE
195519601965197019751976
United Kingdom677483100189220
Federal Republic of Germany888894100136141
Japan868890100157165
United States of America808688100158166
Source: OECD Main Economic Indicators and IMF International Financial Statistics.
LABOUR COST PER UNIT OF OUTPUT IN MANUFACTURING EXCEPT AS SHOWN
195519601965197019751976
United Kingdom637479100197221
Federal Republic of Germanyn.a.n.a.83100143141*
Japan747896100192186†
United States of America808985100127128
*Mining and manufacturing.
† All industry.
Source: OECD Main Economic Indicators
RADIO OF THE DOLLAR PRICE OF MANUFATURING EXPORTS TO WORLD PRICE OF EXPORTS OF MANUFACTURES
195519601965197019751976
United Kingdom0·940·981·031·000·970·96
Federal Republic of Germany0·98·981·001·001·071·07
Japan1·181·160·991·000·980·97
United States of America0·870·960·941·000·870·93
Source: United Nations Monthly Bulletin of Statistics.

Regional Aid

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether the European Commission was consulted or informed about the Government's decision to widen the differential in regional selective financial assistance in favour of special development areas before the decision; and, if so, what was their response.

Naturally the Commission was notified, in accordance with our obligations under Articles 92–94 of the Treaty of Rome, of our intention

index number form for the years 1955, 1960, 1965, 1970, 1975 and 1976 of ( a) the export prices of manufactured products, ( b) the domestic wholesale prices of manufactured produce, ( c) labour costs per unit of output, and ( d) the ratio of the dollar price of their manufactured exports to a dollar index of world export prices and manufactures, to be noted in local currency.

The information expressed in index form, is as follows:to increase the level of aid available in special development areas.The Commission raised no objections to the proposed changes, on the understanding that the Commission ceilings on aid would continue to be observed.

Sectoral Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) on what date EEC Regional Commissioners approved Great Britain's various sectoral schemes; (2) what conditions have been imposed by the EEC Commission on Great Britain's ferrous foundry scheme, under Section 8 of the Industry Act 1972; (3) what conditions have been imposed by the EEC Commission on Great Britain's non-ferrous foundry scheme, under Section 8 of the Industry Act 1972.

Statistical Inquiries

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, in view of the small proportion of companies engaged in manufacturing construction and distribution which benefit from the results of comprehensive censuses carried out by his Department and of the proportion of such companies which find that the time taken up in dealing with requirements for censuses has a damaging effect on their ability to run their businesses efficiently, if he will review this activity of his Department.

All statistical inquiries are kept under continuous review to ensure the burden of form-filling on the business community is kept to a minimum consistent with fulfilling requirements and statutory obligations under the Statistics of Trade Act, 1947 and to the European Economic Communities.

Home Department

European Parliament (Direct Elections)

22.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects the Bill on direct elections to the EEC to become law; and if he will make a statement.

The Government hope that the Bill will become law in time to enable the first elections to the European Assembly to be held in May-June 1978.

Metropolitan Police

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report the details of the Metropolitan Police concerning the formation and rôle of Department C11 from inception to date.

The Criminal Intelligence Branch of the Criminal Investigation Department of the Metropolitan Police, which is now part of C11, was set up in March 1960 with the rôle of collating, evaluating and disseminating information relating to organised crime and the more skilled and dangerous active professional criminal This is still the greater part of its present-day function; additionally, it assists other divisions and branches engaged in operations against serious crime.The Commander C11 is also responsible for the National Central Bureau of Interpol and the Central Drugs and Illegal Immigration Intelligence Units.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the annual cost of running Department C11 of the Metropolitan Police for each year since its inception.

The Commissioner informs me that in the current financial year the cost of C11, excluding the Central Drugs and Illegal Immigration Intelligence Units and the National Central Bureau of Interpol, is estimated to be about £800,000The information requested for each of the earlier years is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what safeguards exist to prevent information on British subjects gathered by Department C11 of the Metropolitan Police from being passed via Interpol to other countries.

Other countries have no direct access to the records of the Metropolitan Police Relevant information from the Criminal Intelligence Branch, or other records, about particular criminals or crimes may be supplied to the police in other countries which are members of the International Criminal Police Organisation (Interpol) through the National Central Bureau at New Scotland Yard where the staff concerned consider this is justified to assist operations against crime This reciprocal exchange of information facilitates operations against such major crimes as drug trafficking, forgery, fraud and trafficking in stolen vehicles and airline tickets.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if information gathered by Department C11 of the Metropolitan Police is placed on computer or linked with information obtained by the Drug Intelligence Unit, Immigration Intelligence Unit and the Special Branch.

Information about crime, criminals and their associates is not at present held on a computer, but, as the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis stated on page 15 of his report for 1976 (Cmnd. 6821), such information is being transferred to a separate new computer system in New Scotland Yard, which will not be linked to or associated with any other computer system.The Criminal Intelligence Branch liaises with the Central Drugs and Illegal Immigration Intelligence Units, with Special Branch and with other forces from whom intelligence can be obtained as and when necessary.

National Stud

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement about the present situation at the National Stud

The National Stud is one of a large number of stud farms in the Newmarket area where there has been an outbreak of genital infection in horses In May 1977, on veterinary advice, the National Stud suspended all covering and was closed to visitors.In view of the potentially serious implications of the infection for the thoroughbred breeding industry as a whole, the Horserace Betting Levy Board, which has responsibility for the National Stud, asked Professor Sir David Evans, Chairman of its Veterinary Advisory Committee, to co-ordinate the intensive research into this matter at the various specialist laboratories throughout the country.As a result it was possible quickly to isolate the organism responsible—which is described as an unidentified Gram-negative coccobacillus—and to commence treatment of infected mares. Mares at the National Stud are now responding to treatment. It was subsequently found that the six stallions at the Stud had a similar organism, and on veterinary advice it was decided not to recommence covering for the remainder of the 1977 season, which ends on 15th July The treatment of stallions has already commenced.The Levy Board was conscious of the need to ensure that all relevant information was made available on the widest possible basis and arranged for this to be disseminated through recognised channels and published in the veterinary press. The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food has undertaken to keep Ministries overseas informed of all developments.

Police (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is yet able to answer the letter from the hon. Member for South Ayrshire which asked him to state the methodology used to determine whether there were incremental costs involved in the recent pay award to the police.

It has been necessary to consult the Police Council on the matter but a reply to the letter from my hon. Gentleman was dispatched on 7th July.

Hang Gliding

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the inspector has yet submitted his report following the inquiry into hang gliding at Mill Hill, Shoreham; when he hopes to reach a decision on this report; and whether he will publish its findings.

After careful consideration of the report, which I received in March, I have decided to confirm the byelaws submitted to me by Adur District Council. I shall be sending copies of the report to interested parties and to the hon. Member.

National Finance

Output

21.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the change in the output per person employed between February 1974 and the latest convenient date.

This information is available only quarterly Between the first quarter of 1974 and the first quarter of 1977 it is estimated that output per person employed rose by about 3 per cent.

Construction Industry (Tax Exemption Certificates)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many applications for Certificate 715 had been received up to and including 5th July and, of these, how many had been (a) approved and a certificate issued, (b) approved and a letter of approval issued, (c) refused and (d) how many were still under consideration.

At 10th June 1977—the latest date for which information is available—337,000 applications had been received, of which 270,000 had been approved. Of the remainder 31,000 had been refused, 19,000 had not been pursued, and the majority of the balance were awaiting action by the applicants to nut their tax affairs in order.Between March and June, approximately 50,000 letters of approval had been issued, and all those applicants should by now have received their certificates.

European Community (British Contributions)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the EEC proposals for the introduction of the new European unit of account, and in particular the extra cost to the United Kingdom of such a proposal and on how it would affect the forecasts in the White Paper, Command Paper No. 6721, page 9, for the years therein mentioned.

The Commission proposed, in 1976, that with effect from 1st January 1978 the European unit of account should replace the present unit of account in the legal Acts adopted by the Institutions of the European Communities The Commission has also prepared the preliminary draft budget of the European Communities, which was sent to the Council of 15th June, in the European unit of account.Her Majesty's Government have made it clear that we would agree to the introduction of the European unit of account only if it were done in such a way that the United Kingdom contribution to the Community budget would not be increased as a result The Commission's proposed method of calculating the United Kingdom's contribution, in the event of a change, meets this condition and is acceptable to Her Majesty's Government However, it has not yet been accepted by all the other member States.

Balance Of Payments

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the average annual surplus or deficit in the current account of the balance of payments in the periods 1945–51, 1952–64, 1965–70, 1971–74 and 1975–76.

Current balance figures for 1945 are not available For the years from 1946 the annual average surplus or deficit on the current account of the balance of payments are now estimated as follows:

£ million
1946–51— 108
1952–6469
1965–70116
1971–74— 729
1975–76—1,563

Wine, Beer And Spirits

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the percentage increase in all forms of taxation on table wines, fortified wines, beers and spirits, respectively, since February 1974.

Since February 1974 the excise duties on table wine, fortified wines, beers and spirits have increased as follows:

Per cent
Table wine333
Fortified wine(15–18 per cent alcohol)154
Fortified wine(18–22 per cent alcohol)199
Beer141
Sprits75
All these goods are subject to the standard rate of VAT, which was reduced from 10 per cent. to 8 per cent. on 29th July 1974.

Tourism

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what amount of value added tax he estimates was contributed by foreign tourists visiting the United Kingdom in the 12 months to the most recent convenient date; and what percentage this represents of the total.

On the basis of estimates of expenditure by all categories of overseas visitors—whether on holiday, business or study—the amount of VAT contributed by tourists, visiting the United Kingdom in 1976, is thought to be somewhere about £100 million, representing about 2·6 per cent. of the total VAT revenue· Within this amount about half was attributable to overseas visitors here on holiday.

£ Sterling

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the savings on a year's imports, were the value of the £ sterling to equal $1·74.

Any estimates are subject to a wide margin of error, but if the value of the £ sterling were $1·74, compared with $1·72, and if the value of sterling against all other currencies were also 1·2 per cent higher, the value of imports of goods might be 0·6 per cent. lower, equivalent to £200 million of the 1976 import bill This estimate allows for (i) a rise of 0·4 per cent. in the volume of imports because of worse competitiveness and (ii) no change in the level of activity or wages Because the impact of an exchange rate change is quicker on import prices than volumes, the short-term effect on the value of imports would be larger than 0·6 per cent.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much an asset purchased for £100 in April 1965 would have to be worth at the present date to maintain its real value.

In May 1977—the latest date for which information is available—the sum of £310 had internal purchasing power approximately equivalent to that of £100 in April 1965.

Employment

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he has made any further alteration to his previous target of 3 per cent unemployment by the end of 1979; and what progress has been made towards his objectives.

As my right hon. Friend emphasised in his Budget State- ment, it remains the Government's overall economic objective to achieve the fastest possible return to a high and sustainable level of output and employment· But the extent to which we can fulfil that aim within any given timescale depends not only on securing improvements in our own industrial performance but also on developments in the wider world economy.

National Savings Funds

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the total sums currently invested in the 15th and 16th Issues of National Savings Certificate, the Retirement Issue of the National Savings Certificate, the index-linked SAYE scheme and Premium Bonds.

The fifteenth issue of National Savings Certificates is the same as the retirement issue. The latest available figures are:

£million
principalAccrued Interest or Index linked increase
Retirement (15th) Issue National Savings Certificates492·168·2
16th Issue National Savings Certificates919·5Nil
SAYE (Index linked)97·94·1
Premium Savings Bonds1,218·0Nil

Investment Income Surcharge

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many other OECD countries have an investment income surcharge or its equivalent; and at what rates.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the revenue received in 1974–75, 1975–76 and 1976–77 from investment income surcharge paid by women on their maintenance income awarded through the courts.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many women have paid the investment income surcharge on maintenance awarded through the courts in the latest year for which figures are available.

Petrol

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what measures he proposes to relieve garage owners of the burden of 5p a gallon on their stocks of petrol when the excise duty is reduced.

It would not be practicable to give relief on actual stocks of petrol held by garages, but my right hon. Friend has tabled an amendment to the Finance Bill which will authorise Customs and Excise to make suitable arrangements for repaying duty by reference to the normal pattern of deliveries so as to encourage garages to maintain stocks in the period immediately before the change in the duty.

Industrial Democracy

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has received the Lord Committee report on employee participation in the public sector.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer that I gave him on 5th May.—[Vol. 931, c. 257].

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he intends to publish the Lord Committee report on employee participation in the public sector.

Officials advise Ministers on various policy questions related to the nationalised industries, but this advice is not published.

Hotels

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what he estimates would be the annual cost if capital allowances were made available on new hotel construction, taking the rate of applicable allowances as the average rate pertaining in the other EEC countries, and defining a hotel as in the Development of Tourism Act 1969.

, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 4th July 1977; Vol. 934, c. 402–3], gave the following information:Because of the variety and complexity of tax systems in the different EEC countries it is not possible to construct a meaningful average of the rates of depreciation and other capital allowances for hotels.

Construction Industry (Tax Exemption Certificates)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in view of the fact that there are still many applications for Certificate 715 outstanding, if he will extend the date to which a letter of approval will suffice beyond 5th July.

, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 7th July 1977; Vol. 934, c.] gave the following information:It is estimated that there are about 17,000 applications for certificates still being dealt with Of these, approximately 5,000 have been successful and certificates will be issued within about 14 days Virtually all the rest are awaiting action by the applicants to put their tax affairs in order. In these circumstances, I do not believe that an extension of the special transitional arrangements beyond 5th July is called for.

Energy

Prices

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the price per comparable unit of account of coal, gas, heating oil and motor spirit, respectively, in each of the member States of the EEC; and what is the price of electricity to industrial and domestic consumers, respectively, per comparable unit of account, in each of the member States of the EEC.

The following table sets out the latest available information. Prices for each fuel are comparable in time but the dates vary as between different fuels Differing national consumption patterns, wide variations in prices that can occur within countries and fluctuating exchange rates all contribute to the difficulty of comparing prices internationally Comparisons are especially difficult in times of rapidly rising prices.

SELECTED FUEL PRICES IN THE EEC

Natural Gas

Domestic

Premium

Electricity

Coal(1)

Domestic(2)

Industrial(3)

Heating oil (5)

Motor Spirit(6)

Domestic(7)

Industrial(8)

Industrial(9)

£per ton

pence per therm

pence for gallon

pence per kwh

Belgium35·9–49·222·514·736·51172·402·792·09
Denmark......38·91121·671·85–2·051·66–1·81
Irish Republic..........1·57–1·641·891·66
Federal Republic of Germany35·1–47·622·5–29·316·3–21·2(4)34·71022·05–2·532·76–3·172·04–2·54
France27·224·7–26·716·5–17·841·41231·831·74–1·901·48–1·60
Italy..9·0–17·86·7–16·839·6149..1·661·46
Luxembourg..........1·751·951·56
Netherlands..14·612·437·91171·92–2·611·80–2·481·57–2·13
United Kingdom221·3–291·4131·4–151·1141·8–141·937–68411·36–11·8711·62–21·7311·40–21·38
.. = Not available.
National currencies have been converted at the exchange rate current on the appropriate date.
(1) Pit head prices for industrial coal, 1st September 1976, not including value added taxes.
(2) Domestic consumers of 800 therms a year, July 1976, excluding taxes.
(3) Industrial tariff consumers of 40,000 therms a year, July 1976, excluding taxes.
(4) Based on consumption of 10,000 therms a year; special contracts apply above this level, July 1976.
(5) 15th April 1977.
(6) Typical pump prices, 15th April 1977, including taxes.
(7) Annual consumption of 12,000 kWh of which 9,000 kWh at night; representative of an all electric household, August 1976, excluding taxes.
(8) Annual maximum demand of 500 kW at 40 per cent load factor representative of a single shift working industry, August 1976, not including value added taxes.
(9) Annual maximum demand of 2,500 kW at 60 per cent load factor representative of a two shift working industry, August 1976, not including value added taxes.

Conservation

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on the progress of the implementation of the national insulation programme.

The Department of Energy is now conducting, jointly with other Departments, a major review of possible further Government action to promote energy conservation This will include consideration of ways to secure economic levels of insulation in buildings.

Gas And Electricity Bills (Stamps)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what progress has been made in his discussions about providing energy stamps purchasable at Post Offices to provide a method of meeting gas and electricity bills by instalments.

There is nothing yet to add to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Swansea, East (Mr. Anderson) on 17th May 1977—[Vol. 932, c. 107.]

Gas Appliances (Conversion)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether the British Gas Corporation is still responsible for the conversion, free of charge, of any gas appliances not already converted for use with natural gas.

British Gas accepts responsibility for conversion of town gas appliances within Great Britain when the premises are converted to natural gas, and for 12 months thereafter Beyond that time it will accept responsibility if the owner of the appliance has moved house from a town gas area or if it can be shown that British Gas missed the appliance at the time of conversion or converted it unsatisfactorily.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Land Sales

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what percentage of agricultural land was sold in 1976 and was bought by farmers, institutions or foreign buyers.

In the transactions notified to the Inland Revenue in the year ended 30th September 1976, which is the latest information available, just under 2 per cent. of agricultural land in England and Wales changed hands Some 76 per cent. of the land was bought by individuals—usually farmers—20½ per cent. by property and other companies, financial institutions and public authorities, and 31 per cent by "others", which would include foreign Governments.I regret that it is not possible to identify separately the purchases made by foreign nationals.

Scotland

Land Ownership

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if any records of land ownership covering land other than that owned by the Secretary of State, the Crown Estates Commission, the Forestry Commission, the Highlands and Islands Development Board, the Nature Conservancy, the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board, the South of Scotland Electricity Board, or the National Trust for Scotland are held in the Scottish Office or any of its departments.

No, the Register of Sasines, which is public, holds records of land ownership.

Hydrocephalus

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the use of isosorbide in the treatment of hydrocephalus.

I am advised that isosorbide is used where hydrocephalus is only slowly progressive The decision to use this drug and the treatment regime adopted is a matter for the clinical judgment of the doctor in charge of the case.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, if he will make a statement on the risks associated with the shunt treatment of hydrocephalus.

I am advised that, apart from the inherent risks attached to any operation, infection is the major problem in this particular operation There is also some danger of ventricular bleeding, and an increased anaesthetic risk because of increased intracranial pressure.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many shunt surgery operations have been carried out on hydrocephalic spina bifida babies in each of the last five years.

Statistics are not yet available for the years 1975 and 1976 Shunt operations carried out on hydrocephalic spina bifida babies in each of the preceding five years were:

197051
1971105
197271
197359
197457

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the availability and use of computerised axial tomography in the detec-

RegionTotal rateable valueRateable value of industrial subjects included thereinPercentage value of industrial subjects to total rateable value
Borders4,879,688330,1026·8
Central20,063,0915,712,91128·5
Dumfries and Galloway7,139,603594,5428·3
Fife18,935,4232,277,56612·0
Grampian24,555,4952,468,17910·1
Highland9,420,5961,229,41213·1
Lothian51,467,3013,491,4526·8
Strathclyde163,106,43017,531,48510·7
Tayside24,189,5171,943,9228·0
Orkney421,41025,2496· 0
Shetland463,64120,6034·4
Western Isles766,76269,2809·0
All Scotland325,408,95735,694,70311·0

Colleges Of Education

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland for Scotland what representations he has received from the Association of Lecturers in Colleges of Education in Scotland about the present difficulties in education, with special reference to the circumstances at Aberdeen College of Education.

The comments made by the Association of Lecturers in Colleges of Education in Scotland on my right hon. Friend's consultative paper on "Teacher Training from 1977 Onwards" do not include any particular reference to the circumstances at Aberdeen College of Education.

tion of hydrocephalus in babies born with spina bifida.

Computerised axial tomography is available in Edinburgh, Glasgow, Dundee, and Aberdeen The extent to which this facility is used in the detection of hydrocephalus in babies with spina bifida is determined by the clinical practice of the clinicians in charge.

Rating (Industrial Premises)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the proportions of rateable valuation as in cash and as in percentage as are taken by industrial subjects in the regional and island authorities of Scotland.

The following table shows, both in value and percentage, the proportion which industrial subjects constitute of the total rateable value of regional and islands authorities in Scotland for the year 1976–77.

asked the Sectary of State for Scotland (1) what redundancies are planned to affect the staff of the Scottish colleges of education;(2) what plans he has to redeploy staffs of the colleges of education in Scotland.

I would refer the hon. Lady to my right hon. Friend's statement of 19th May on "Teacher Training from 1977 Onwards", copies of which are in the Library.—[Vol. 932, c. 271–74.]

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the prent number of staff at Aberdeen College of Education; and how this compares with a comparable date in each of the last five years.

The number of staff at Aberdeen College of Education is at present 399, of which 166 are academic staff The numbers of staff on 1st April of the last five years are as follows:

Total StaffAcademic Staff
1972393155
1973427169
1974425170
1975442176
1976430167

Urban Aid Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many applications were made for grants under the urban aid programme in the last 12 months; how many were granted and at what cost; and how many and at what cost were made specifically in relation to Dundee.

Of 90 applications in the year ending 30th June, 52 have been approved at a capital cost of £253,490 and a revenue cost in the first year of £556,823. 18 applications were refused and 20 are under consideration One application related specifically to Dundee and was approved at a cost of £4,450.

Home-Loss Payments

the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the circumstances in which home-loss payments, representing the attachment of a person to the house which he loses, are payable to tenants who are forcibly removed from their homes for redevelopment.

Eligibility for home-loss payments is governed by the terms of the Land Compensation (Scotland) Act 1973 as amended; If the hon. Member has a particular point in mind I invite him to write to me about it.

Damhead Bridge, Coupar Angus

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the date when the Damhead Bridge, Coupar Angus, will be replaced.

I understand that Tayside Regional Council, as highway authority for this road, expects the im- provements to the bridge to be completed by about November this year.

Social Services

Low-Income Families

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report how many heads of households were living on incomes below the appropriate family income supplement level for each year since 1972.

On the assumption that the hon. Member is referring to the numbers of families normally in full-time employment with gross incomes below the appropriate prescribed amounts for family income supplement (FIS) but not receiving FIS, the information requested is as follows:

YearNumbers of families
1972About 80,000
1973About 50,000
1974About 20,000
1975About 20,000
These estimates are derived from a DHSS analysis of the incomes and other information recorded by respondents in the Family Expenditure Survey. They are subject to considerable uncertainty be-because of small sample numbers and deficiencies in the information available for determining eligibility for FIS.An estimate for 1976 is not yet available.

One-Parent Families

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how much of the extra £380 million a year added to social security benefits for one-parent families referred to by his right hon. Friend the Minister for Social Security on 21st June 1977 represents general up-ratings of benefits and how much represents special help for one-parent families in recognition of their special needs;(2) if he will itemise the £650 million a year of social security benefits paid to one-parent families referred to by his right hon. Friend the Minister for Social Security on 21st June 1977 into the individual benefits paid, showing in each case the cost and the number of lone parents in receipt;

(3) how many lone parents are in receipt of ( a) child benefit and ( b) child benefit increase at the present time.

Health Services Abroad (Reciprocity)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is now satisfied that there are adequate arrangements for United Kingdom citizens to use health service facilities in third countries, comparable with those in the United Kingdom and at the basic cost.

There is no general power under the National Health Service Acts to pay for treatment received by United Kingdom citizens abroad Access to other national systems of health care can normally be achieved only on a non-reimbursement basis through bilateral reciprocal agreements Our ability to make agreements of this kind depends on the existence of adequate standards and methods of health care provision, and on the willingness of other countries to enter into such agreements.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list those countries with which there are

NUMBERS OF FAMILIES RECEIVING FAMILY INCOME SUPI'LEMENT AND AVERAGE PAYMENTS
YearTwo-parent familiesAverage paymentMotherless familiesAverage paymentFatherless familiesAverage payment
(at December)(Thousands)(£)(Thousands)(£)(Thousands)(£)
1971471·5011·47232·21
1972481·7811·74332·51
1973502·3112·36432·83
1974323·2513·41373·41
1975283·8314·20314·20
1976424·6614·19345·05
The scheme started in August 1971.
Figures relate to Great Britain, and the numbers of families are rounded to the nearest 1,000.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many applications for family income supplement have been made and how many have been approved for families living in (a) the social security region which includes Nottingham and (b) the country as a whole.

Information on the number of applications for family income supplement (FIS) is available only for Great adequate reciprocal social service arrangements for tourists, and for which he does not recommend holidaymakers to take separate insurance cover.

Details of reciprocal agreements covering medical treatment are given in my Department's leaflets SA 28 and SA 30, copies of which I am sending to the hon. Member. Since these leaflets were published, an agreement with the German Democratic Republic has been signed and has come into operation Illness in countries with which we have reciprocal agreements can involve expense, as national legislations may require the patient to bear part of the costs of treatment Even where treatment is provided free there may be additional non-medical expenses Some insurance cover may, therefore, be advisable.

Family Income Supplement

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many (a) one-parent and (b) two-parent families with dependent children have been in receipt of family income supplement since the scheme's inception; and if he will list the average payment for both groups for each of the years listed.

Following is the information requested:Britain as a whole During 1976, 143,284 applications were dealt with, of which 80,018 resulted in awards.The number of families living in the East Midlands and East Anglia region, which includes Nottingham, and receiving FIS was 8,670 at the end of March 1977, the latest date for which information is available The total number of families in Great Britain receiving FIS at that time was 82,540.

School Dental Service

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average number of patients treated per full-time dental officer in the School Dental Service in 1976; and what was the comparable figure for the Leek parliamentary constituency.

The average number of patients treated per full-time dental officer in the school dental service in England in 1976 was 1,004. Information is not available in respect of parliamentary constituencies, but the comparable figure for the area of Staffordshire Area Health Authority was also 1,004.The dental officers concerned spent a small part of their time treating patients other than in the school dental service.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average number of patients treated per full-time dental officer in the School Dental Service in 1975, 1976 and to the latest convenient date in 1977; and what were the comparable figures for the area covered by the Macclesfield constituency.

Information is not yet available for 1977. The average number of patients treated in the school dental service in England, per full-time dental officer, was 955 in 1975 and 1,004 in 1976 Information is not available in respect of parliamentary constituencies, but in the area of Cheshire Area Health Authority the comparable figures were 1,181 in 1975 and 1,131 in 1976.Dental officers in the school dental services also spend a small amount of their time treating other priority groups.

Spectacles

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consideration he has given to the possibility of allowing non-National Health Service manufacturers of children's spectacle frames who can satisfy the British Standards Institution that their products meet or exceed National Health Service standards of quality, workmanship and design, to have these included in the range of frames for which National Health Service lenses can be provided free of charge.

Any United Kingdom manufacturer, supplier or importer who has a frame which satisfies the necessary standards of quality and the design specifications set out in the General Ophthalmic Services Statement and who wants to market his frame under NHS arrangements, can get approval to do so We have recently added a new design specification—previously only in the adult range—to the approved range of children's frames, but to add further specifications would increase substantially the cost of the general ophthalmic services.

National Health Service (Finance)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will instruct regional health authorities not to reallocate funds between areas until the implications of such proposals on patient services and teaching needs have been assessed.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Hounslow, Feltham and Heston (Mr. Kerr) on 5th July—[Vol. 934, c. 478.]

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the implementation of the Report of the Resource Allocation Working Party.

I would refer the hon. Gentleman to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Gravesend (Mr. Ovenden) on 21st June—[Vol. 933, c. 405.]

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether provision will be made in the Resource Allocation Working Party formula in future years for the effect on health service needs of inner cities areas of decay and high immigrant population.

Environmental and demographic influences on health are reflected in the standardised mortality ratios recommended by the Resource Allocation Working Party as the best available indicator of these aspects of relative health care need I accept that deprivation in its wider social sense may have an impact for which an additional allowance needs to be made subjectively, but I agree with the working party's view that it is not quantifiable at this stage.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of his stated intention to achieve a fairer distribution of resources in the eight health regions in England, he will give an undertaking to redress the disadvantages of the Trent Authority in the next financial year.

As I made clear in my Press statement of 21st December 1976, a copy of which is in the Library, while the present low rate of increase from year to year in the resources available nationally for the hospital and community health services continues, rapid equalisation of resources between the health regions in England is not practicable. But I shall continue in 1978–79 the steady process of redistribution in favour of the regions hitherto least well provided.In the current year the Trent Regional Health Authority received an increase of almost 3 per cent. in real terms, approximately twice the national average.

Homeless Families

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of the recent decision of the Berkshire Council to adopt new criteria for dealing with homeless families, which will deny assistance to certain categories which fall within priority groups laid down by the Government in 1974 and will limit assistance to other families to 28 days' temporary accommodation, if he will hold discussions with Berkshire county authority; and if he will make a statement.

The observations of the council have been invited upon representations which have been made to my right hon. Friend and it would be premature to make a statement. I will write to my hon. Friend.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will issue instructions to unemployment review officers of his Department, in resorts such as Torbay, to order that social security benefits be withheld from jobless persons who have, in the judgment of the officer, no serious intention of finding a job and who intend to live off social security benefit; and if he will make a statement.

I would invite the hon. Member's attention to my reply to him on 8th July, and assure him that unemployment review officers at several local offices in seaside resorts, including Torbay, are operating these arrangements now.

Battered Children

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is able to make a statement on the Government's response to the first report of the Select Committee on violence in the family.

The Government welcome the report and are grateful to the Committee, especially to its Chairman, my hon. Friend the Member for Wood Green (Mrs. Butler) for a major contribution to our understanding of the complex and distressing subject of non-accidental injury to children. We welcome, too, the tribute paid in the report to the efforts being made by all who are working in the field to find solutions to the problem and to the emphasis placed on the part that the community at large can play as good neighbours to help meet the need of parents with young children. The Committee's wide ranging recommendations have implications for a number of Government Departments as well as for local and health authorities, voluntary organisations and all the services and professions concerned. The full and careful consideration these recommendations require will take a little time to complete. We are consulting field authorities and the professional bodies and organisations concerned, and shall present the Government's views to the House as soon as possible thereafter.

Transport

Driver And Vehicle Licensing Centre

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what representations he has made to the Post Office about delays in the handling of mail dispatched by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre in Swansea; and if he will make a statement.

The Director of the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre wrote to the Director of Postal Operations on 24th May. Since then there has been a series of meetings directed towards minimising delays. I shall do all I can to ensure a speedy and satisfactory outcome.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what inquiries have been made to ascertain the present whereabouts of an application for a full driving licence renewal sent to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea on 17th January 1977 by Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport why Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm Shrewsbury, who applied for a driving licence on 17th January for which a fee of £5 was banked by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea on 28th January has not yet received her licence.

Because Mrs. Mills' application was mishandled: the application form became detached from the postal order.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what steps have been taken to locate a postal order No. 5323 564317 for £5 sent by Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury, to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea on 17th January.

Mrs. Mills contacted the Post Office following a request from the Centre that she should do so.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport on what date postal order No. 5323 564317 sent by Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury, to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea was put into the Driver Vehicle Motor Tax account, Bank of England, London.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) why on 19th May a letter was sent by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea to Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury, to tell her that postal order No. 5323 564317 had not been received by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre.(2) why a letter sent to Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea to say that her postal order No. 5323 564317 in payment of a driver's licence fee had not been received when, in fact, this order had already been banked by it.

Because at the time it was not known for certain that it had been received.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport why no receipt was sent to Mrs. F. M. Mills of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury, by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea to acknowledge receipt of postal order No. 5323 564317 sent to it on 17th January.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport why receipt of sums of money is not acknowledged by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is a maximum length of time which he has laid down as being reasonable for the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre to acknowledge the receipt of money sent to it through the post.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport why there are insufficient telephone facilities available to enable persons who have been waiting for licences for a considerable time to contact the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea.

Because—temporarily—more people than expected are currently telephoning the Centre.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what action he takes to ensure that no proceedings are taken against persons who drive without a licence for periods of up to six months as a result of the inefficiency of the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea.

Prosecution is a matter for the police and the courts, who clearly use their discretion in cases like that of Mrs. Mills.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) why no acknowledgement has been sent to Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury, of a letter sent by her to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea on 20th June;(2) when Mrs. F. M. Mills, of 9 Garmston Road, Sutton Farm, Shrewsbury, can expect an acknowledgement of a letter sent by her to the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea on 20th June.

The Centre has no trace of a letter of 20th June, but on 8th July Mrs. Mills was sent a certificate of entitlement to drive and a note of apology for delay, which could be regarded as an acknowledgement of her application and a response to her letter of 25th June.

Road Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if the rate of night-time accidents is increasing faster than the number of registered vehicles; if, following the introduction of the Road Vehicles Lighting (Standing Vehicles) (Exemption) (General) (No. 2) Regulations on 30th April 1972, any disproportionate increases occurred in the number of night-time injury accidents involving parked vehicles in 30 mph areas; and if he will provide statistics relating to night-time accidents involving parked vehicles in 30 mph areas, by region and including Greater London, for comparable periods, before and after the introduction of those regulations, making due allowance for nighttime accident increases outside 30 mph areas, other relevant changes in the situation, and the effects of the energy shortage and public lighting blackouts of the winter of 1972–73.

Vehicles registered and darkness accidents in Great Britain for the period 1969–76 are as follows:

Index numbers(1969=100)
Number of road motor vehicles currently licensedAccidents in darknessRatio of darkness to daylight accidents
1970101105104
1971105104108
1972110111115
1973116109113
1974118103116
1975119104116
1976122109116
Over the period 1969–76 the number of road motor vehicles licensed rose steadily; there were 22 per cent. more such vehicles licensed in 1976 than in 1969. Accidents in darkness rose from 1969 to reach a peak in 1972, fell again during the fuel crisis of 1973–74, and rose again in 1975 and 1976; there were 9 per cent. more accidents in darkness in 1976 than in 1969. Darkness accidents increased relative to daylight accidents each year from 1969 to 1972, hut for the last three years daylight and darkness accidents have moved in step. In 1972 there was a sharp increase in the number of accidents in darkness; this was the year when power cuts caused street lighting to be reduced during the hours of darkness, and also when the regulations were changed to allow more parking without lights.The effect of the introduction of the regulations of 30th April 1972 was discussed in the HMSO publication "Road Accidents in Great Britain 1972". It was thought that, an extra 1,100 vehicles parked in 30 mph areas-36 per cent. increase—were involved in injury accidents, in areas outside the Metropolitan Police District (MPD) in the year following the introduction of the new lighting regulations. It was not possible to say how far this increase was due to more vehicles being parked on the road as a result of the new regulation or how far it was because parked vehicles are inherently more dangerous when unlit. Police reports suggested that there had been a large increase in parking on the road at night.The new regulations approximated to those already in force in the MPD and the situation in the MPD was little changed by the introduction of these regulations.

I regret that the remainder of the information asked for cannot be provided without incurring disproportionate cost.

Motor Taxation Offices (Redundancies)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many persons have so far received compensation and redundancy payments from his Department as a result of redundancy arising from the closure of local motor taxation sections; and what is the total amount of such payments to date.

No such compensation awards have yet been made. The exact number of staff made redundant by local taxation authorities is not known, but my Department has so far paid authorities £15,983 to reimburse the employer's share of redundancy payments to 91 persons.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many persons are currently employed in local motor taxation sections due to be closed owing to the transfer of vehicle taxation to Swansea.

Cars

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will give estimates of the number of cars per hundred households and of the total number of households in each region of the United Kingdom in 1976.

The regional figures for the latest available period are given in the following table:

RegionNumber of householdsNumber of cars per 100households
North1,09261
Yorkshire and Humberside1,74563
East Midlands1,33672
East Anglia63986
South-East6,15878
South-West1,53484
West Midlands1,78276
North-West2,31965
Scotland1,76060
Wales96870
Northern Ireland45472

These figures are not comparable with those given in previous years because of revisions to estimates of the number of households in each region.

Railway Sidings (Archway Road)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether or not his investigations have confirmed the statement made at the Archway Road public inquiry that firms utilising the Railways Act to install sidings were being blacked by road haulage drivers.

I am aware of allegations relating to applications under Section 8 of the 1974 Act but I have no evidence that blacking has taken place.

Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes Feasibility Study

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether, following publication of his transport White Paper, he can now announce the line of route of the Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes motorway; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend will announce his conclusions on the Swindon Oxford-Milton Keynes feasibility study as soon as possible.

Leighton Buzzard (Southern Relief Road)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if, following publication of his transport White Paper, he will now have discussions with Bedfordshire County Council on the subject of the Southern Relief Road in Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, in view of any decision he may make on the Swindon-Oxford-Milton Keynes motorway; and if he will make a statement.

The Bedfordshire County Council has indicated that it wishes to consider the implications of the Swindon Oxford-Milton Keynes feasibility study before taking a decision on the Leighton Buzzard Southern Relief Road.

Motorways (Service Areas)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what consultations he is having, or expects to have, with motoring organisations about the terms of leases of motorway service areas.

None.General policy concerning motorway service areas was initially settled after discussion with interested parties, including the motoring organisations.

LesseeService AreasLease expiry date
Trust Houses Forte Ltd.ScratchwoodMlMarch 2019
Newport PagnellMlOctober 2009
WoodallMlApril 2018
FleetM3May 2023
GordanoM5May 2023
CorleyM6January 2022
KeeleM6August 2013
Charnock RichardM6October 2013
BurtonwoodM62August 2024
Granada Motorway Services Ltd.ToddingtonMlOctober 2014
WoolleyEdgeMlApril 2021
HestonM4August 2016
Leigh DelamereM4January 2022
FrankleyM5November 2015
SouthwaiteM6July 2022
BirchM62December 2022
Washington-BirtleyA1(M)August 2020
Rank Leisure Services Ltd.Farthing CornerM2May 2013
AustM4September 2016
Hilton ParkM6May 2022
KnutsfordM6November 2013
FortonM6September 2015
Ross Motorway Services Ltd.Leicester Forest EastMlFebruary 2016
MemburyM4April 2023
Hartshead MoorM62July 2023
Galleon Roadchef Ltd.Taunton DeaneM5June 2026
SandbachM6December 2025
RownhamsM27June 2026
Kenning Motor GroupStrenshamM5July 2012
AndertonM61April 2021
Blue Boar GroupWatford GapMlOctober 2009
Mobil Oil Company Ltd.Michael WoodM5December 1992*
Burton WestM6October 1991*
Mecca Ltd.TrowellMlJanuary 2017
BP Oil Company Ltd.Killington LakeM6May 1993*
Westmorland Motorway Services Ltd.TebayWestM6June 1993*
*21-year lease: the term of leases not so marked is 50 years.

Education And Science

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is her latest estimate of the average cost of an individual local authority school meal.

As I stated in answer to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Gloucestershire, West (Mr. Watkinson) on 24th March—[Vol. 928, c. 623]—the latest available estimate of the gross average cost, which relates to November 1976, is 49p. Taking into account income from meals charges the net average cost to public funds at present is 37p.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will list the expiration dates of all leases to operators of motorway service areas.

Defence

Airfields (Civilian Use)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the occasions so far this year on which Royal Air Force aerodromes, when normally closed, have been opened up for the use of Ministers, or other VIPs outside the Services (a) in the South Yorkshire, North-East Midlands, Yorkshire-Humberside area, (b) Scotland, (c) Wales and (d) the rest of Great Britain; and whether he has considered a greater use of civil aerodromes in view of the added cost and inconvenience to personnel when it is decided to open up such stations.

The number of occasions in each case when Royal Air Force stations have been specially opened for the purposes described is (a) three, (b) one, (c) one and (d) three. In addition, stations have remained open beyond normal operating hours as follows (a) one and (d) nine; on the latter occasions the aircraft were returning to base. In deciding which airfield to use on a particular occasion careful consideration is given to all the relevant circumstances.

Army

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the numerical strength of the Army in each of the past 10 years.

I refer the hon. Member to the annual statements on the Defence Estimates, which contain the information requested.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many serving officers there are at present in the Army of and above the rank of brigadier; and how this figure compares with the figure in February 1974.

This information is not available for the dates requested. The latest figures show that there were 345 officers of the rank of brigadier or above on 31st March 1977 and 357 on 31st March 1974.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many serving officers there are in the Army at present; and how this figure compares with the number in February 1974.

This information is not available for the dates requested. The latest figures show that there were 22,265 Regular and TAVR serving officers on 31st March 1977 and 22,921 on 31st March 1974.

Millbank Technical Services

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what progress Mill-bank Technical Services has achieved in supplying military equipment and naval support facilities to Iran.

It is not normal practice to discuss details of sales or possible sales of defence equipment or services to individual countries.

Recruits (Arithmetical Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will review testing procedures for potential recruits on matters of measurement so that young people who have been taught metric measurements alone in schools are not at a disadvantage when facing test questions set in yards, feet and inches.

Yes. Recruiting tests containing imperial measurements are already being reviewed.

Cruise Missile

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an assurance that the British Government will not be involved with the United States Cruise missile programme.

I have nothing to add to what I said in the House on 5th July in answer to my hon. Friend the Member for Chertsey and Walton (Mr. Pattie) and the hon. and learned Member for Montgomery (Mr. Hooson).

Baor

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many of those serving in BAOR have reached a recognised level of proficiency in German.

1,153 officers and soldiers serving in BAOR and Berlin have reached a recognised level of proficiency in German.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what additional payment, if any, is paid to those serving in BAOR who have reached a recognised level of proficiency in German.

Service personnel who attain Colloquial, Linguist. Interpreter II or Interpreter I standard in German are given a one-time payment of £30, £70, £70 or £35, respectively. These sums are cumulative, so that a Service man who reaches the highest standard, Interpreter I, will receive a total of £205.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has to increase the knowledge of German among those serving in BAOR.

Some steps have already been taken. A study is well in hand of the ways in which language training for officers could be further improved.

Kyle Of Lochalsh (Underwater Test Range)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what was the finding of the special investigation carried out by his Department and the Criminal Investigation Department into the damage to the British Underwater Test and Evaluation Centre torpedo testing range at Kyle of Lochalsh;(2)how many of the damaged cables at the British Underwater Test and Evaluation Centre range at Kyle of Lochalsh have been replaced or are to be replaced; and at what cost.(3)how many of the cable units at the British Underwater Test and Evaluation Centre range at Kyle of Lochalsh were broken or damaged by the activities of trawlers;(4)how many of the cable units at the British Underwater Test and Evaluation Centre range at Kyle of Lochalsh have now been repaired;(5)what measures he proposes to ensure that the British Underwater Test and Evaluation Centre range of Kyle of Lochalsh shall not suffer further damage; and how he proposes to protect the new cable units.

It has now been established that 16 cable units have been damaged. The affected hydrophones are being refurbished and a programme to replace the damaged cables at a cost of about £210,000 will begin shortly. Investigations into the damage have now been completed and a report passed to the Procurator Fiscal for Ross-shire. Meanwhile, we are taking steps to implement a wide range of defensive and protective measures to improve protection to the range.

Wellington Barracks

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received advocating the temporary use for tourist coach parking of the Wellington Barracks site; and what reasons he has given for refusal.

Requests for the use of the site have been received from Westminster City Council. I am looking into the matter and will write to the hon. Member.

Royal Naval Armament Depot, Antrim

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if his Department propose to take over the Royal Naval Armament Depot at Antrim, Northern Ireland as an Army base.

No decision has yet been taken on whether there is a future defence requirement for RNAD Antrim. Urgent studies on this are continuing.

Pay And Rents

asked the Secretary of State for Defence on what the Armed Forces Pay Review Body based the assertion in its Sixth Report, pages 7–8 that the increases in charges for unmarried second lieutenants and for more senior officers exceed the after-tax increases in pay and that the same applies to certain categories of married Service men; and if he will make a statement.

As I told the House on 16th June, the independent Armed Forces Pay Review Body's calculations reflect only the after-tax values of the new supplement to pay recommended by it—taking account of the then recently announced tax changes for 1977–78—and not the effect of those tax reliefs on the salary as a whole. A comparison of the increases with the increases in charges results in the position indicated by the review body in its sixth report. If, however, the same comparison were made taking account of the effect of the tax reliefs on salary as a whole—including the new supplement—the position would be different—again, as I explained to the House on 16th June.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what has been the percentage increase in the rent element of married quarter accommodation charges in each year since 1st April 1974; and what was the average of local authority rents for houses of similar standard, age and location on which the rent element of forces accommodation has been based.

The information requested is not readily available. I shall publish a full reply in theOfficial Reportas soon as possible.

Army (Crime)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many soldiers have been discharged from the Army as a result of convictions for serious offences committed in Northern Ireland in each of the years since 1971; and how many have been discharged as a result of convictions for offences committed in (a) England and Wales and (b) Scotland in each year since 1969.

I regret that this information is not held centrally and would require a disproportionate amount of time and effort to collect.

United States Air Force

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has received any proposal from the Government of the United States of America to utilise an additional Royal Air Force station as a full-time operational base for the United States Air Force.

Environment

Local Government Staffs

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many persons were employed in local government in Yorkshire and Humberside and the North-Western Region, respectively, during the last two quarters for which figures are available.

Information is not at present available to the Department on the numbers employed in local government on a regional basis, but the provision of such figures and their publication in the annual Abstract of Regional Statistics is currently under consideration.

Local Authority Mortgages

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to seek to clarify and strengthen the powers of local authorities to give guarantees to building societies that older properties are acceptable security for loans.

As foreshadowed in the Green Paper on Housing Policy, my right hon. Friend will consider, in consultation with the local authority associations, whether and in what ways these powers should be clarified and strengthened.

Storey's Gate, Westminster

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received advocating the temporary use for tourist coach parking of the Storey's Gate site; what arrangement has been agreed; and what reasons there are for refusal of the full use of the site all the year round.

Representations about such a use for this site have been received from the Greater London Council. Arrangements are being made to allow this during the parliamentary recess this summer. At other times the site is used as a car park for House of Commons staff and cannot, therefore, be made available to coaches.

Employment

Thames Television

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action he proposes to take about the reported settlements for production assistants employed by Thames Television providing for retrospective payments backdated to January 1976.

The company has informed by Department that the commitment for retrospective payments has been withdrawn.

Family Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the average level of family income in 1976 in Scotland and England, respectively.

From the Family Expenditure Survey it is estimated that average weekl0y gross household income in 1976 was £80·otland and £83·gland. These figures are subject to sampling variation.

Wales

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how many the numbers of unemployed in Wales and in South Glamorgan, respectively, have been reduced by the job creation programme.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that it is estimated that job creation programme projects are currently providing approximately 5,000 and 500 jobs in Wales and South Glamorgan respectively for people who would otherwise have been unemployed. It is estimated that about 12,000 unemployed people in Wales have so far been helped by the programme.

Scotland

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what money is now available for job creation in Scotland.

asked the Secretary of State or Employment how many employment exchange areas in Scotland with a worse unemployment problem than that affecting Cumnock are not presently special development areas.

At 9th June the unemployment rate for Cumnock was 11 per cent. At that date there were nine employment office or travel-to-work areas in Scotland which were outside the special development areas and had higher unemployment rates than that for Cumnock.

South Coast

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the number of unemployed in Torbay, Bournemouth and Eastbourne, respectively, on 1st January 1977, 1st June 1977, 15th June 1977 and 1st July 1977.

The numbers unemployed are counted on a selected day in each month, generally the second Thursday. The following table shows the numbers of persons registered as unemployed at 13th January and 9th June.

13th January 9th June19779th June 1977
Torbay*5,0613,906
Bournemouth employment Office area4,9103,690
Eastbourne employment office area1,6821,371
*The figures for Torbay are for the area covered by the Torquay, Paignton and Brixham employment offices.

Small Businesses

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps have been taken by the Manpower Services Commission to see that grants made to create employment opportunities do not result in unfair competition with small businesses working in similar fields in the same area.

Co-Operatives

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what are the criteria used by his Department for giving grants to co-operatives offering employment opportunities to the unemployed;(2)what are the circumstances in which a grant of £22,000 was made to three unemployed men to form a workers' cooperative now called Adepco;(3)if he will make a statement about the work of the three man co-operative known as Adepco, and the level of grant he has approved for its continued working.

Agricultural Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals he has for putting young persons in agriculture on a similar footing to factory workers with regard to the maximum number of hours per week which they may work.

Tyneside

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what the unemployment rate would currently be in the Tyneside area if 1,600, 3,000 and 6,000 workers, respectively, at C. A. Parsons Limited were made redundant.

It is not possible to make a precise estimate of the likely effect on the unemployment rate in Tyneside of such redundancies since experience of previous redundencies suggests that, in practice, a substantial proportion of those made redundant do not register as unemployed. In addition, those who do register tend to do so at the employment office nearest their home which does not necessarily lie within the employment office area or travel-to-work area within which the redundancy occurs.

Wales

Mental Health Services

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asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he has made available any additional resources to mental health and mentally handicapped services in Wales in the current financial year.

Advance Factories

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many advance factories have been built in Wales and in South Glamorgan, respectively; and what plans he has in conjunction with the Welsh Development Agency for further advance factories in Wales and in South Glamorgan.

Since November 1964, 140 advance factories and nursery units have been built, of which three are situated in South Glamorgan. A further 105 are under construction or planned, of which 14 are in South Glamorgan.

Hospitals Capital Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the likely cost in total of the Prince of Wales Hospital, Gurnos, when finally complete; what is the estimated amount of capital invested in district hospitals in the Mid-Glamorgan Area Health Authority since 1974; and if he will make a statement.

£9·3 million. In addition, £2·3 million has been spent on other hospital development since 1974.

National Health Service

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps he has taken to cut red tape, reduce bureaucracy and improve the service to patients of the National Health Service in Wales; and if he will make a statement.

I am asking health authorities to reduce their annual expenditure on management by 5 per cent. over the next three years so that progressively more resources can be available for patient care. I am anxious that everything should be done to give priority to expenditure on services directly of benefit to patients.

European Community

Presidency (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the estimated overall cost of the United Kingdom's presidency of the EEC.

The costs to my right hon. Friend's Department in terms of extra staff and that proportion of conference expenditure in the United Kingdom accounted for by our Presidency of the EEC are still being calculated. I will provide the hon. Gentleman with details of the costs for the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and other Departments as soon as they are available.

European Youth Forum

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what progress has been made towards the establishment of the European Youth Forum; when it is expected to hold its first meeting; what its membership will be; and who will be the United Kingdom members.

The Temporary Secretariat, established last year by the Commission of the European Communities and drawn from representatives of youth organisations in Europe, are still engaged in the drafting of proposals concerning the purpose and composition of the European Youth Forum. Decisions about the date of its first meeting, its membership and how British youth would be represented on the forum will be made in the light of these proposals. The British Youth Council is assisting the Temporary Secretariat in drafting the proposals.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Mozambique

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will list the amount outstanding of claims for property compensation by British companies or citizens against the Mozambique Government.

The full information requested is not available. However, 75 British individuals and companies have registered a record of their property claims with the British Embassy in Maputo.

British Youth Council

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the cost to public funds of the British Youth Council.

As I told the House on 15th March, provision has been included in the Summer Supplementary Estimates for a grant in aid of the Council's administration expenses of up to £15,000 for 1977–78 In addition to this sum, it is intended to make available up to £7,200 to the Council during 1977–78 towards specific projects with Eastern European countries, which accord with provisions for youth exchanges and co-operation contained in the Final Act of the Helsinki Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe.

Rhodesia

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) whether he will set out from information available to him from overseas sources the number of (a) black and (b) white Rhodesian civilians killed in each of the last three years by terrorists belonging to the ZANU wing of the Patriotic Front under the political control of Mr. Robert Mugabe and Mr. Josiah Tongogara; and what are the equivalent figures for deaths among members of the Rhodesian security forces and the terrorists themselves;(2) whether he will set out, from information available to him from overseas sources, the number of (

a) black, and ( b) white Rhodesian civilians killed in each of the last three years by terrorists belonging to the ZAPU wing of the Patriotic Front under the political control of Mr. Joshua Nkomo; and what are the equivalent figures for deaths among members of the Rhodesian security forces and the terrorists themselves.

According to figures published by the regime in Salisbury, 358 members of the security forces, 2,649 Nationalist guerrillas and over 1,000 civilians, including 88 Europeans, have been killed since December 1972. We have no means of checking the accuracy of these figures or of providing a breakdown of the totals given.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs on how many occasions, and on what dates, Mr. John Graham and his colleagues met Bishop Abel Muzorewa or other members of the UANC during the mission's visit to Rhodesia and what is the equivalent information for (a) Mr. Robert Mugabe and (b) Mr. Joshua Nkomo or their supporters when the mission visited the countries in which those men were then resident.

During the first round of their consultations Mr. Graham and his colleagues met Bishop Muzorewa and other members of the UANC in Botswana on 20th and 21st May. They again met members of the UANC in Lusaka on 31st May. The consultative group met representatives of the Patriotic Front in Dar-es-Salaam on 24th May. Mr. Graham met Mr. Mugabe in Maputo on 30th May and the group met Mr. Nkomo in Lusaka on 1st June and 7th July.

Namibia

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement on the progress of negotiations with the Government of the Republic of South Africa regarding South-West Africa since the five démarche Powers met Mr. Vorster; and what indication has been given by the external representatives of SWAPO based in Lusaka that they are prepared to take part in free elections in that country in the event of a change of policy by South Africa towards the outcome of the Turnhalle Conference.

After two rounds of talks in Cape Town considerable progress has been made. In place of the constitutional proposals of the Turnhalle Conference the South African Government have now enacted legislation for the government of Namibia through an administrator-general. Elections are to be held for a constituent assembly which will draw up a constitution for an independent Namibia. Discussions have been on the basis that there will be direct United Nations involvement. The Five Powers' approach has aimed at meeting the conditions for an internationally acceptable settlement laid down in Security Council Resolution 385 which calls, among other things, for free elections in which all Namibian groups, including the South-West African People's Organisation, can participate. SWAPO has endorsed this Resolution.

Banabans

asked the Seretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, (1) what recent discussions he has had with the Government of New Zealand about the future constitutional status of Ocean Island;(2) what recent discussions he has had with the Government of Australia about the future constitutional status of Ocean Island.

We have had discussions with the Governments of Australia and New Zealand about the ex gratia payment to the Banabans and the terms of my right hon. Friend's statement of 27th May were agreed with both Governments. The future constitutional status of Ocean Island is of course a matter for the United Kingdom Government, but it has been our practice to keep the Govern- ments of Australia and New Zealand generally informed.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what recent discussions he has had with the Government of Fiji about the future constitutional status of Ocean Island.

My right hon. Friend had a valuable discussion of this question with the Prime Minister of Fiji on 15th June.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will invite the Secretary-General of the United Nations to appoint a mediator to resolve outstanding differences between the Chief Minister of the Gilbert Islands and the Banaban Council of Elders.

I think the best way to resolve these differences is through direct discussions between the Gilberts Government and the Rabi Council of Leaders. This Government are very willing to try and promote such discussions and to mediate where this is possible and desirable.

Pastor Georgi Vins

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, in view of the concern among many Christians in the United Kingdom about the condition of Pastor Georgi Vins, at present in prison in Russia, he will make representations to the Russian authorities for his release, in accordance with the principles of the Helsinki Final Act.

The Government have taken steps to ensure that the Soviet authorities are aware of the concern widely felt in this country about this case. I regard that concern as legitimate. We shall continue to take account of this and other similar cases both in our continuing private discussions with Soviet representatives and at the meetings to be held in Belgrade in the autumn to review progress in the implementation of the CSCE Final Act.