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Written Answers

Volume 940: debated on Friday 9 December 1977

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday 9th December 1977

Civil Service

Expenditure

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is the cash limit set on Civil Service expenditure for 1976–77, the amount spent, and the percentage under or over spent.

Provisional figures for the outturn on cash limited expenditure in 1976–77 were published as Cmnd. 6902. I am specifically responsible for a number of cash limits covering Civil Service staff costs and related administrative expenditure amounting in total to £2,364 million in 1976–77. Of this, £2,242 million was spent, representing an underspend of 5·2 per cent. Some Civil Service staff costs are, however, included within other cash blocks, the main example being Ministry of Defence Block 1; for these, accordingly, no separate cash limit on Civil Service expenditure exists.

Defence

Tyres (Departmental Purchases)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much his Department spent on tyres in 1974, 1975 and 1976.

Excluding the value of tyres which form part of new vehicles, guns and aircraft the sums spent in the financial years ending 31st March 1975, 1976 and 1977 were £3,350,000, £3,821,000 and £3,752.000 respectively.

Fire Fighting

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he can now estimate the cost to date of the use of troops to provide fire-fighting service during the Fire Brigade strike.

I have nothing to add to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Beckenham (Mr. Goodhart) on 21st November l977.—[Vol. 939,c. 567.]

Royal Herbert Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what future use is planned for the Royal Herbert Hospital buildings at Woolwich.

Present occupation of some of the Royal Herbert accommodation will continue well into 1978. Studies are in hand to establish whether it would thereafter be practicable to make alternative use of the buildings by transferring some tasks from other locations. When the outcome is known I shall write to my hon. Friend.

Middle East

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration is being given to a very large new supply of arms from Great Britain to Egypt; and if he will forbid all arms supplies to either side in the Middle East where peace is precarious.

It has been the policy of successive Governments not to divulge details of defence sales to individual countries. The Government's policy on arms sales to the Middle East remains as stated in the answer given by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office on 7th December 1977. —[Vol. 940, c.768–9

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Broadcasting

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many hours the external services of the BBC broadcast to overseas audiences per week; how this compares with the available figures for the external services of other Common Market countries; and also how this compares with the external broadcasting output of Vatican Radio.

The estimated total programme hours per week of external broadcasting by EEC countries are as follows:

BBC708
France109
Germany794
Italy170
Belgium88
Denmark48
Netherlands393
LuxembourgNil
EireNil
Corresponding figures for Vatican Radio are 159 hours per week. No figures are given for Radio Luxembourg nor for Radio Monte Carlo as these are commercial stations and not external broadcasting services in the normal sense of the term.

Bbc (External Services)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what annual savings would result in each case if broadcasting by the External Services of the BBC in Japanese, Burmese, Somali, Finnish, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Greek, Tamil, Nepali, French and German were to cease.

It is estimated that the following annual savings would result if broadcasting were to cease in each of the following languages:

£
Japanese119,000
Burmese91,000
Somali78,000
Finnish112,000
Portuguese128,000
Spanish115,000
Italian121,000
Greek115,000
Tamil13,000
Nepali9,000
French560,000
German578,000
The French and Portuguese services to Africa are included in these figures.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what annual savings would result if broadcasting by the External Services of the BBC to Australia, New Zealand Canada, and the United States of America were to cease.

No programmes are produced specially for these countries. A saving of about £50,000 per annum could be made for switching off certain transmitters covering these areas.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what loss of audience would result from a shutdown in the External Services of the BBC between 20.00 hours and 04.00 hours GMT.

It is not possible to put a precise figure on the loss of audience which would result from a shutdown of the BBC's External Services between 20.00 hours and 04.00 hours GMT but it would probably number millions of regular listeners.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what annual savings would result from a shutdown in the External Services of the BBC between 20.00 hours and 04.00 hours GMT.

It is very difficult to estimate the effect of such a shutdown. New shift patterns at transmitters and Bush House would need to be worked out with consequent staffing implications. In very approximate terms, savings might be £1,400,000 per annum.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the estimated audience for the External Services of the BBC in the European Community in any one week.

The BBC estimated that the regular audience in the European Community is approximately 5 million.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the estimated home audience for the External Services of the BBC in any one week.

The United Kingdom is not the intended audience of External Services broadcasts. There is circumstantial evidence that World Service broadcasts in English are heard by a large number of listeners here on the medium wave, but the size of this audience has not been measured.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what proportion of the broadcasts of the External Services of the BBC is to Communist and non-Communist countries, respectively.

26 per cent. of the broadcasts of the External Services of the BBC is directed to Communist countries. This does not include the extent to which the BBC's German language service, broadcasting for 24½hours per week, is heard in the German Democratic Republic.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the total estimated audience of the External Services of the BBC in any one week.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what proportion of the external broadcasts of the BBC is in English.

asked the Secretary of State of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many foreign languages are used by the External Services of the BBC.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what proportion of the broadcasting time of the External Services of the BBC is directed to educational programmes.

It is not possible to distinguish between the general and educational elements of External Services output, except for English by radio, which is clearly educational and with 34½hours per week accounts for 4·8 per cent. of total output.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what advice he gives to the External Services of the BBC with regard to the abolition or the establishment or the re-establishment of any particular foreign language service.

My right hon. Friend is responsible in accordance with the Licence and Agreement between the Government and the BBC for prescribing the hours and languages of vernacular broadcasts. Decisions about abolishing or re-establishing such services are, of course, taken after consultation with the BBC.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what proportion of the Government grant to the External Services of the BBC has been used for investment in transmitters in each of the last 10 years.

The following amounts have been spent by the BBC External Services on building or modernising transmitters. These amounts are expressed as a percentage of the total grant in Aid for broadcastaing, excluding monitorings, in each of the last 10 years.

Total ExpenditureProportion of Grant in Aid
£percentage
1967–68992,00010·2
1968–691,140,00011·2
1969–70806,0007·6
1970–711,303,00010·7
1971–72698,0005·5
1972–73515,0003·8
1973–74600,0003·9
1974–75279,0001·5
1975–761,262,0005·1
1976–772,391,0008·6
In addition to the above expenditure on transmitters, the following amounts were spent on building or modernising transmitters at relay stations operated by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office on behalf of the BBC External Services:
Total expenditure
£
1967–68527,300
1968–69510,700
1969–70105,200
1970–7125,800
1971–7280,900
1972–7330,100
1973–74100,500
1974–75198,100
1975–76495,500
1976–771,285,100

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what has been the cost of the External Services of the BBC in each of the last 10 years.

The cost of the External Services of the BBC in each of the last 10 years, consisting of the grants in aid for broadcasting and monitoring is as follows:

£
1967–6810,566,000
1968–6911,093,000
1969–7011,517,000
1970–7113,201,000
1971–7214,009,000
1972–7315,026,000
1973–7416,713,000
1974–7520,546,000
1975–7626,653,000
1976–7732,259,000

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what responsibility he has with regard to the overall management of External Services of the BBC.

The overall management of the External Services is a matter for the Managing Director of those services. My right hon. Friend is, however, responsible to Parliament for the grant-in-aid provided for the External Services of the BBC and for prescribing the hours and languages of vernacular broadcasts.

Portugal (British Property)

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what steps he is taking in consultation with the Portuguese Government to facilitate the payment of compensation to British farmers who were dispossessed of their land in Portugal by the provisional Government in 1975.

Her Majesty's Embassy in Lisbon has repeatedly made representations to the Portuguese authorities about the payment of compensation to the owners of expropriated property; when I was in Lisbon in June this year I also raised the matter. A Compensation Law was promulgated on 26th October. The final legal requirement before substantive negotiations on compensation claims can begin is the publication of two executive Decree-Laws allowed under the Law. Her Majesty's Embassy in Lisbon made further representations about this on 25th November; we have been informed that the Decree-Laws will be published by the end of this month.

Home Department

Fire Service (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) on what date, what time and from whom, he first received the suggestion of resolving the firemen's strike by paying them 10 per cent. and reducing their hours immediately and with overtime rates on their new hours of work; why this was immediately turned down; and whether he will reconsider his decision;(2) on what date he received a telephone message from the hon. Member for Newham, North-West making the suggestion of ending the firemen's strike by paying the 10 per cent. additional payment for overtime by immediate reduction in hours; and what were the reasons for refusing to accept this proposal.

Various suggestions have been made about ways in which the firemen's strike might be ended, including some along the lines put forward by my hon. Friend in a telephone call to my office on 10th November. All these suggestions have been very carefully considered, but none was within the Government's guidelines on pay and could not, therefore, be accepted.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will initiate a scheme to enable firemen to have six months' leave of absence to pay to attend a Government training school to fit them for skilled employment in their off-duty periods, so as to enable them to earn an additional wage, without contravening the 10 per cent. guidelines.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from insurance companies or underwriters in respect of the firemen's strike.

Illegal Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether illegal immigrants who entered the United Kingdom before January 1973 and who are now permitted to stay will be entitled under EEC rules to settle in other Community countries.

Giving permission to remain to a person who has entered the United Kingdom illegally does not extend to him EEC rights of freedom of movement. The latter depend upon his coming within the special definition of a United Kingdom national that was included in the Final Act of the Treaty of Accession.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his estimate of the number of dependants of illegal immigrants who will settle in the United Kingdom following his amnesty.

No reliable estimate can be made because by definition the numbers are not known. 4,867 dependants were declared by the 1,663 Commonwealth citizens and citizens of Pakistan found eligible up to 31st October 1977 under the terms of my predecessors' announcement of 11th April 1974 affecting those who entered before 1st January 1973 without examination by an immigration officer.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his estimate of the number of Commonwealth and Pakistani citizens who entered the United Kingdom illegally before 1st January 1973 and who will benefit from his decision of 29th November not to remove them.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to a Question by the hon. Member for Louth (Mr. Brotherton) on 6th December.—[Vol. 940, c. 620–1.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) in view of the fact that most illegal immigrants live in stress areas where there is a grave housing shortage, overcrowding, shortage of schools, hospitals and social services, what action he took before his announcement of an amnesty for the pre-1973 illegal immigrants to ensure that a further influx of spouses, children and relatives of these illegal immigrants will not further exacerbate already difficult situations; and what extra financial assistance will be given to such areas;(2) in view of the fact that in many areas housing allocations, educational grants and other social benefits are based upon proof of living in a given area, to what extent his amnesty for illegal immigrants prior to 1973 will affect these regulations; and whether he will consult on such matters in order to prevent unrest arising from his amnesty declaration.

The decision I announced on 29th November affects people already in the United Kingdom whose presence here, before the recent court judgments, was thought to be lawful. Numbers of them will already have their dependants here. There is no expectation of an early or sudden additional influx of dependants consequent on my decision; and I have no reason to expect that any adjustment would be required on account of it in eligibility for social benefits or in the financial help given by the Government to local authorities in the areas concerned.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether those legal immigrants who have been waiting for their next of kin to be admitted for many years will be treated in the same way as the illegal immigrants under the 1973 amnesty rule.

The dependants of a Commonwealth citizen or a citizen of Pakistan whose position in this country is regularised under the terms of my announcement of 29th November will then be eligible to apply for entry clearance under the normal rules. These applicants will receive no preferential treatment and will take their turn in order of application with dependants of lawful immigrants.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, since he is unable to give any estimate of the number of illegal immigrants in Great Britain at any time, if, in order to assist in preventing such happenings in the future, he will publish a quarterly table giving details of those that have voluntarily surrendered and will do so under his 1973 amnesty, together with their ages, countries of origin, sex, date of arrival, the number in family who illegally entered and their ages, whether employed since arrival, with or without national insurance cards, whether or not income tax was paid, and what social security benefits or other public funds were drawn.

Information about the number of applications made and granted under the terms of my predecessor's announcement of 11th April 1974 is placed in the Library, with the Control of Immigration Statistics, each quarter. Similar information will in future be given in respect of applications made under the terms of my announcement of 29th November.Information in the detail requested could only be made available centrally at disproportionate cost but, up to 31st October 1977, of the 1,663 applications granted 698 were from citizens of India and 930 from citizens of Pakistan. Almost all of these related to males.

is asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give an assurance that his pre-1973 amnesty for immigrants will be used to prevent further illegal immigration and that those that arrived from 1973 onwards will not be granted an amnesty.

All reasonable and practicable measures will continue to be taken to prevent illegal entry. As I said in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Luton, East (Mr. Clemitson—[Vol. 940, c.125–8.]—on 29th November, I do not shrink from firm action to deal with it, and it will remain the Government's normal practice to send away those who entered in this way on or after 1st January 1973.

Police (Avon And Somerset)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the net increase or decrease in the number of policemen serving in the Avon and Somerset Constabulary in each of the past five years.

Avon and Somerset Police was set up on 1st April 1974. The figures from that date are:

PeriodNet gain/loss
1st April–31st December
1974+18
1975+00
1976+9
1st January–31st October 1977-22

Independent Broadcasting Authority

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he next intends to meet the Chairman of the Independent Broadcasting Authority.

My right hon. Friend met the Chairman of the Independent Broadcasting Authority on 31st October. Further meetings will be arranged as occasion requires.

Firemen

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will appoint an historian to prepare and issue an historical report of the activities of the National Fire Brigade during the war, showing to what extent life and property were saved and the loss of life incurred by firemen and all other relevant information.

No. This has been done, and I refer my hon. Friend to "Civil Defence" by Terence H. O'Brien, published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office in 1955 as part of the "History of the Second World War: United Kingdom Civil Series."

Television Licences

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the proposed further increase in television licence fees by the BBC falls within the Government's incomes policy; and whether he will refer it to the Prices Commission.

Equal Opportunities Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will reconsider his decision to transfer the Education Section of the Equal Opportunities Commission to the Department of Education and Science.

Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how the Home Office and its servants distinguish correspondence which may not be stopped or read pursuant to Rule 37A(1) of the Prison Rules 1964, as amended, from other correspondence, without reading it.

Where the examining officer acting under Prison Rule 33(3) is unaware of the reason for the correspondence it may be necessary for him to peruse as much of a communication as is necessary to enable him to apply the appropriate Prison Rule to it.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what directions he has given pursuant to Rule 37A(1) and (4) of the Prison Rules 1964, as amended, generally and specifically in relation to Category A prisoners.

No directions have been issued pursuant to Prison Rule 37A(1). For the directions in respect of correspondence between a prisoner and a solicitor in connection with civil litigation I would refer my hon. Friend to Section 17A of Prison Standing Orders, a copy of which is in the Library of the House.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what procedure a prisoner must adopt to obtain permission to see or correspond with a solicitor about a matter in which criminal proceedings could arise against the Home Office or its servants over the treatment of a prisoner whilst serving his sentence; and who decides whether there is a likelihood of criminal proceedings in connection with a decision on such a request for permission.

A prisoner may not communicate with a solicitor with a view to instituting criminal proceedings. If he has reason to believe that a criminal offence may have been committed by a member of the staff he should inform the governor. If the governor is satisfied after investigation that there appears to be any substance to the allegation he will ordinarily seek instructions from Prison Department Headquarters whether the police should be invited to investigate the matter. If so, the question whether criminal proceedings would be instituted would be for the police to decide. Where urgent action is required the governor has discretion to inform the police on his own initiative.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether a prisoner is entitled without interference by the Home Office or its servants to correspond with a solicitor without the letters being stopped or read, and see a solicitor in sight but out of hearing of a prison officer where the prisoner only requires advice concerning his rights whether in relation to his imprisonment or otherwise.

A prisoner may be interviewed by a solicitor out of the hearing of an officer or correspond with a solicitor without his letters being stopped or read if they are in connection with (a) legal proceedings to which he is a party and the governor has no reason to suppose that the correspondence contains matter not relating to those proceedings, or (b) a petition by the prisoner to the European Commission of Human Rights. A prisoner may be granted facilities to communicate with his solicitor on other matters at the discretion of the governor, and such correspondence may be read and stopped under Prison Rule 33(3) and his visits may be within the hearing of an officer under Rule 33(5). Facilities for a prisoner to seek legal advice about his treatment in prison would be granted only in the context of the possible institution of legal proceedings.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why the distinction is drawn in Rule 37A of the Prison Rules 1964, as amended, between prisoners who are parties to proceedings which have been instituted and prisoners who require legal advice to institute proceedings regarding correspondence with a solicitor, when there is no such distinction drawn regarding the privilege of solicitor/client written communication in either of the two situations; and what review was made of this practice following the judgment of the Court of Human Rights in the Golder Case (1975).

A prisoner may not consult a solicitor with a view to instituting proceedings in respect of his prison treatment unless he has first ventilated the complaint through the normal internal channels. It would not be possible to ensure that this requirement is observed unless letters were read as Prison Rule 33(3) provides. Rule 37A(l) enables the requirements of Rule 33(3) to be waived when legal proceedings are under way. Rule 37A was amended by the addition of paragraph 4 in consequence of the Golder judgment.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what directions or criteria have been made or are applied by the Home Office to requests by families of legal representatives for copies of medical reports on prisoners, copies of any internal judicial or quasi-judicial adjudication affecting the prisoner, including the facts of evidence upon which that adjudication was based and information concerning the treatment of prisoners including their health, any punishment they may be subject to, segregation from other prisoners and confinement in secure units.

It is not the practice to make copies of medical reports on prisoners and records of any disciplinary proceedings available to relatives or legal representatives of prisoners other than on the direction of a court in connection with legal proceedings.

Firemen

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the effect of reducing the number of hours worked in a week from 54 to 48 on the number of firemen employed.

The reduction in the firemen's working week from 56 to 48 hours took effect from 8th November 1974. Because recruitment to meet the needs of the 48-hour week started early in 1974 and extended in some areas into 1975, and because in this period brigades were reorganised as a result of local government reorganisation, the effect on the number of firemen employed cannot be precisely estimated. But the full-time strengths, including control room staff, of brigades in England and Wales at the end of 1973, 1974 and 1975 were 26,292, 31,117 and 32,550 respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many more firemen will be needed if the hours worked per week are reduced from 48 to 42.

The number of additional firemen required would depend on manning levels and type of shift system adopted. To preserve existing standards of fire cover, including present manning standards, it has been estimated that 3,000 to 5,000 additional firemen would be needed for the whole country. The number actually required would depend on the outcome of the negotiations necessary in the National Joint Council for Local Authority Fire Brigades.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what would he the cost of reducing the hours worked by firemen each week from 48 to 42.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the Question by the hon. Member for Harrow, West (Mr. Page) on 6th December.—[Vol. 940, c.618.]

Race Relations

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the adequacy of current race relations legislation as applied to schools, in the light of National Front activity among schoolchildren.

I have no plans to amend the Race Relations Act 1976, but I am studying the effectiveness of the section dealing with incitement to racial hatred.

Public Executioners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the Home Office retains a list of official executioners.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

European Community (Council Of Fisheries Ministers)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the outcome of the Council of Ministers (Fisheries) meeting in Brussels on 5th and 6th December.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the statement I made to the House earlier today.

Milk

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is yet in a position to announce the maximum retail and wholesale prices of milk for liquid consumption to operate from 1st January 1978.

The Government announced on 28th July that, with the ending of the guaranteed price arrangements on 31st December as required by the Treaty of Accession, they would in future determine statutory maximum wholesale prices of milk for liquid consumption in addition to specifying maximum retail prices as at present.

The maximum wholesale prices to apply from 1st January 1978 in the various parts of the United Kingdom for the normal daily delivery of milk to the dairy where it is to be processed for liquid consumption will be as follows:

p per litre

England and Wales (except London)
12·840(58·37p per gallon)
London12·426(56·49p per gallon)
Scotland12·763(58·02p per gallon)
Northern Ireland (except Belfast)
12·811(58·24p per gallon)
Belfast12·720(57·83p per gallon)

In accordance with the arrangements I announced in July, the average return to farmers will in future be determined by the Milk Marketing Boards in the light of their returns from the markets for both liquid and manufacturing milk; but the maximum wholesale prices for liquid milk now determined should enable the boards to give producers a price significantly above that resulting from the present guarantee.

The maximum wholesale prices now determined, together with the need to cover increases in distributors' costs, will make it necessary to increase the maximum retail prices of milk by 1p per pint from 1st January. The price of ordinary pasteurised milk will then become 12½per pint.

Given my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer's commitment to hold retail milk prices unchanged until the end of 1977, the subsidy provision for milk will be increased by £23 million to meet commitments under the existing guarantee arrangements up to 31st December 1977 and to avoid any carry over of past financial commitments into the new pricing arrangements which begin on 1st January. The provision is a claim on the contingency reserve and parliamentary approval for this expenditure will be sought by means of a further Supplementary Estimate in due course. Pending this, any necessary expenditure will be met by drawings on the Contingencies Fund.

Statutory instruments giving effect to these maximum wholesale and retail prices will be laid before Parliament shortly.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action he proposes to take to modify the significant difference which, because of the low proportion of milk production which is sold for liquid consumption in Northern Ireland, would otherwise exist between the returns to milk producers in the Province and those in the rest of the United Kingdom.

It has been decided that the guaranteed price for milk for the period April-December 1977 as applied in Northern Ireland will be increased by 0·43p per litre (1·95p per gallon). This will make an additional £3·6 million available to the Northern Ireland Milk Marketing Board. It will be for the Board to decide when and at what rate it should be paid over to producers.

Energy

Research (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the total research and development budget of his Department in the current year; what proportion is taken up by nuclear power; and what proportion is allocated to wind, wave and solar energy, respectively.

My Department's estimated research and development expenditure for the current year 1977–78, including provision for the UKAEA, amounts to about £147 million net, of which about £128 million is related to nuclear power. This does not include the R & D expenditure of the nationalised energy industries which totals about £102 million. My Department's Vote allocations include the following provisions for R & D:

1977–78
£ million
Non-nuclear19
Nuclear other than UKAEA9
United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority (including fusion and underlying research etc.)119
147
Allocations to research on renewable energy sources have been made on a programme basis; programmes announced to date for wave, solar, geothermal, and wind energy total nearly £10 million. The Department's estimates for 1977–78 provide for about £2½ million on renewable sources but these programmes are in their early stages and expenditure on renewable sources of energy is expected to increase considerably over the next few years.

Palace Of Westminter(Staff)

asked the Lord President of the Council what is the size

Cost of staff
Number of staff*1963–641969–701973–741976–77
£000s£000s£000s£000s
House of Commons521 [90]3937801,3283,030
Refreshment Department†233 [3]Nil4265143
House of Lords171 [41]203261439901
Refreshment Deprtment‡51 [10]NilNilNilNil
Metropolitan Police Staff218§N/avN/av181366
Department of the Environment261 [16]N/avN/av7661,485
Civil Service Department234912
* Part time staff are shown in brackets and are counted as half in the total.
† Cost consists of recess wages and salaries.
‡ The cost of staff for the House of Lords Refreshment Department is not paid from public funds
§ Includes 107 Custodians and Firemen responsibility for whom was transferred from Department of Environment on 1st October 1977.
Staff employed by the Post Office for postal and telecommunications duty, and those employed by the Royal British Legion as attendants in the underground car park are not included in this table.

Environment

Construction Industry

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total cost of completed public sector construction contracts in England and Wales, the South-West Region and the South-West Development Area, respectively, in 1973.

ORDERS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION WORK IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR RECEIVED BY CONTRACTORS
£million (current prices)£per head of employed population
England and WalesSouth-WestEngland and WalesSouth-West
19732,541203126135
19742,568254127169
19753,165216157144
19763,375204170136
Orders are subject to wide annual fluctuations, but the evidence available suggests that the level of public sector construction expenditure in the South-West is similar to that for England and Wales as a whole.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has issued any circulars or letters to local authorities instructing them to blacklist any contractors in the construction industry for alleged breaches of (a) stage 1, (b) stage 2 and (c) the present arrangements; if so, on what dates; and how many firms were involved.

of the staff currently employed at the Palace of Westminster; and what was the cost of the same to public funds in 1964, 1970, 1974 and at the latest convenient date, respectively.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 10th November 1977; Vol. 938, c.157],gave the following information:1974, 1975, 1976 and the year ended June 1977; what was this cost per head of the insured population; and if he is satisfied that it amounted to a fair regional balance.

I regret this information is not available in the form requested; but public sector orders for work in the South-West Region and in England and Wales generally are as follows:

Tyres (Departmental Purchases)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much was spent by his Department on tyre purchases in 1974, 1975 and 1976.

The Property Services Agency spent the following sums on tyres:

£
1974–75120,304
1975–76167,064
1976–77167,497

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, in the light of the Government decision to buy British textiles, he will instruct his Department to purchase only tyres containing British-made tyre cord.

In accordance with Government policy, the Property Services Agency already makes its tyre purchases through contracts let by the Ministry of Defence Procurement Executive.

Mortgages

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment in the light of the fact that many of the advances made by building societies in the first half of 1977–78 to local authority nominees in England were to people who successfully would have obtained mortgages from the building societies in any case, and that only one-third of the £157 million made available in advances has so far been approved, if he will publish details of the proportion of the £51·25 million approved which went to those on cheaper or older types of houses and to mortgagors on low incomes.

In 1976, 40 per cent. of all building society borrowers had below average earnings, and 23 per cent. of all loans were for houses built before 1919. Detailed figures are not available for the support scheme, but I would expect the percentages to be higher.

Transport

Tachograph Calibration

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what are the locations of the three approved tachograph calibration stations in the north-western traffic area.

These approvals are part of a continuing pragramme. I will send my hon. Friend an up-to-date list.

Driver And Vehicle Licensing Centre

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will give for the longest most convenient stated period of time, up to and including 3rd November 1977, the number of complaints received by him and the Swansea Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre on its alleged maladministration and neglect; how many of these complaints were from Members of Parliament and other public representatives; and what recent action he has taken, or intends taking, to improve the service given by this office.

I have already explained to my hon. Friend in previous answers and correspondence that no separate record is kept of complaints, as distinct from inquiries, from the public concerning driver and vehicle licensing. Hon. Members raised 505 individual cases during the four months July to October 1977. In the same period the Swansea Centre dealt with over 19 million applications of all kinds. This puts the number of complaints into perspective. Even so, the centre is doing everything possible to reduce the causes of legitimate complaints.

"Morning Star"

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the total cost to date in 1977 of his Department's advertising in the Morning Star.

Central Transport Consultative Committee

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what are the new terms of reference of the Central Transport Consultative Committee.

I have been asked to reply.The National Consumer Council's Report "Consumers and the Nationalised Industries" recommended that the terms of reference of the Central Transport Consultative Committee should be extended. The Government will be announcing their conclusions on this and other aspects of this report in a White Paper on the nationalised industries, which will be published as soon as possible.

Scotland

Further Education

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage of school pupils in S.4 remained at school after 16 Years in the nearest available full year; and how this compares with the previous five years.

This information is not available in the precise form asked for; but the following table gives the numbers of pupils aged 16, 17 and 18 and over staying on voluntarily at education authority schools in Scotland expressed as a percentage of the 13-year-old age group 3, 4 and 5 years previously:

SessionAge 16Age 17Age 18+
1972–7334·220·22·9
1973–7436·018·82·5
1974–7535·617·01·9
1975–7636·516·51·6
1976–7737·916·31·7
1977–78N/A*16·41·3
*Not available until the number of 16-year-olds leaving at the winter leaving date is known.

Fish (Resources)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the percentage of fish stocks in the EEC which are within waters covered by Scottish law.

Approximately 60 per cent. of the fish resources in the waters within the fisheries jurisdiction of member States are within United Kingdom limits. In the context of EEC negotiations no useful purpose would be served by seeking to distinguish the fish resources in waters off different parts of the United Kingdom.

Job Creation

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if there is any model available to the Scottish Office economic sections which demonstrates a possible ratio of jobs to capital expenditure; and, if not, what basis Ministers use when making public or parliamentary statements in which they assess the effect of capital expenditure in terms of job creation.

The effect of capital expenditure on job creation in Scotland depends very much on the particular category of expenditure. While no formal model is employed to derive estimates, use is made where appropriate both of Scottish information and relationships for the United Kingdom as a whole.

Glenfield And Kennedy (Valves) Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total amount of public money committed to the new company operating at Glenfield and Kennedy, Kilmarnock; and what safe-guards the Government have sought for the work force in respect of access to company policy and forward planning

Under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 an interest relief grant of just under £1 million payable in three annual instalments, has been offered to the new company, Glen. field & Kennedy (Valves) Ltd. The provision of information about policy and forward planning is a matter for dis. cussion and agreement between the management and the work force.

Social Services

Consultants

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the number of full-time and part-time consultants employed at present in the National Health Service and the number of consultants on the committee with which he negotiates who are full-time and the number who are part-time; how many academic consultants serve on the negotiating committee; and if he will make a statement.

The most recent published figures show that at 30th September 1976 there were 12,328 consultants employed in the National Health Service in England and Wales of whom 5,187 held whole-time contracts, 5,778 held part-time contracts, and 1,363 were honorary consultants. The composition of the committee with which my officials are negotiating a new consultant contract is a matter for the staff side. It includes five part-timers and four whole-timers including two academics.

Medicines

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report the names of any medicines which appear on the list of those obtainable by prescription only adopted by the Council of Europe but which are not so restricted in the United Kingdom.

Following extensive consultations, an order under the Medicines Act 1968 specifying the products which may only be sold or supplied against a prescription will soon be laid before Parliament with an operative date of 1st February 1978. The order has been prepared in the light of the recommendations of the Council of Europe on the classification of medicines obtainable only on prescription, but it does not include all the substances listed in the recommendations—e.g., a considerable number which are not marketed in the United Kingdom and a few which are subject to other controls are excluded.

Strikes (Departmental Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will give, for the longest stated period of time, the number of strikes or industrial disputes that have occurred in his various offices, the reasons or causes and the number of workers concerned; and to what extent the Government's wages and salaries policy has been the cause of such stoppages.

Strikes and other industrial action by the staff of my Department over the past year have taken several forms, including limitations on certain kinds of work, token stoppages and full withdrawal of labour for periods up to one day. The reasons for taking these actions have also varied. They include, for example, heating failures in some offices, reductions in public expenditure, and Civil Service pay.Strike action over Civil Service pay has taken place as follows:(i) On 8th November 1977, responding to a call for action nationally by the Society of Civil and Public Servants, about 11,150 members—41 per cent. of staff in grades represented by the union—walked out for the afternoon. Additionally about 3,440 members of the Civil and Public Services Association absented themselves.(ii) During week commencing 28th November 1977, responding to a call for action by the Civil and Public Services Association nationally, about 26,700 members of that union—40 per cent. of staff in grades represented by the union—walked out for periods of one day or a half-day. About 1,200 members of the Society of Civil Servants were involved in sympathetic action.

Wives (Invalidity Pension)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the net cost of increasing the housewives non-contributory invalidity pension to £17·50 per week.

The gross cost would be about £16 million a year. It is not possible to give a reliable figure for the net cost. Any savings would be of supplementary benefit and, as these are likely to be small, the net cost would also approach £16 million.

Invalid Care Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the net cost of increasing invalid care allowance to £17·50 per week for present beneficiaries.

The gross cost, assuming that the increase for a wife or other adult dependant remained unchanged, would be about £2 million a year. It is not possible to give a reliable estimate of the net cost, but there would probably be significant savings on supplementary benefit.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the net cost of paying invalid care allowance at the present rate to married women.

I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to the right hon. Member for Redbridge, Wanstead and Woodford (Mr. Jenkin) on 8th December 1977.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the net cost of paying invalid care allowance at £17·50 per week to both present beneficiaries and to married women.

It is not possible to give a reliable estimate, but the gross cost might be as much as £114 million.

Burns Treatment

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals he is considering for providing extra facilities in the North-East Thames Region for the treatment of burns.

None. It is for the regional health authority to make provision for treatment within the resources allocated to it.

Contraceptives

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, on the basis of

Number of patients
19751976
For the fitting of intra-uterine devices14,00055,000
For the provision of other contraceptive services1,211,0001,946,000

Family Planning Clinics

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many premises in England and Wales were used as National Health Service family planning clinics, giving hospital and other

19751976
Number of premises regularly used as family planning clinics at the end of the year—
in hospital premises294276
elsewhere1,5671,561
Total1,8611,837
Number of family planning sessions195,600207,500
Number of patient attendances3,797,4003,806,900
Number of individual patients1,499,1001,541,700
In addition, family planning advice is given in post-natal and gynaecological clinics and in hospital wards.

Invalidity Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the net cost of paying invalidity allowance to all recipients of non-contributory invalidity pension on the same criteria as for recipients of contributory invalidity pension.

The gross cost would be of the order of £15 million a year for men and single women. It is not possible to estimate the net cost.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the net cost of paying invalidity allow- National Health Service prescriptions issued by general practitioners for contraceptives, how many patients were provided with the various methods of contraception by National Health Service general practitioners in England and Wales during 1975 and 1976.

Information is not available precisely in the form requested by my hon. Friend.The numbers of patients in England and Wales in respect of whom payments were due to general medical practitioners for the provision of contraceptive services in the final quarter of each year were:premises separately, in the years 1975 and 1976;(2) how many family planning sessions, patient attendances and individual patients were recorded at National Health Service family planning clinics in England and Wales in 1975 and in 1976.

As follows:ances to all recipients of housewives' non-contributory invalidity pension on the same criteria as for those on contributory invalidity pension.

The gross cost would not exceed £9 million. It is not possible to give a reliable estimate of the net cost, but on the basis of a gross cost of £9 million there could be savings of up to £1 million on supplementary benefit.

Rickets

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if his Department will publish leaflets in Gujerati, Hindi and Urdu to educate Asian parents on the steps they can take to prevent rickets in their children.

A leaflet of the feeding of children is being prepared in my Department for issue in Hindi, Urdu, Gujerati, Punjabi and Bengali. The leaflet will stress the need for children to have sufficient Vitamin D and will explain the ways by which this can be secured.

"Morning Star"

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total cost to date in 1977 of his Department's advertising in the Morning Star.

There has been no expenditure on advertising by my Department in the Morning Star during 1977.

"Are You A Stinker?"

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many copies of the leaflet "Are You a Stinker?" were printed; and what was the cost of their preparation and printing.

The leaflet "Are You A Stinker?" which gives advice on personal cleanliness, is produced by the Health Education Council. I understand that, since it was first printed in April 1974, 350,000 copies have been produced and nearly 330,000 of these have been distributed to health authorities and others. Preparation and printing costs have amounted to just over £3,000.

Tanderil

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will call for a report on the dangerous side effects of the drug Tanderil from the Committee on Safety of Medicines in view of the evidence supplied to him by the hon. Member for Orpington.

A study carried out for the Committee on Safety of Medicines has already been published with its approval. I shall send a full reply as soon as possible to the hon. Member about the case he raised with me.

Walking Frames

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the provision of wheeled walkabout frames can be made for disabled people at public expense; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. These frames can be provided by local authorities or, when required for treatment or aftercare, by health authorities. Local authorities have discretionary power to make a charge. The indications for provision of the wheeled types of walking frame are a matter for professional judgment. I will gladly look into any case of particular difficulty if the right hon. Gentleman will let me have details.

Pay Settlements

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the specific title, date and number of the circular sent by his Department to regional and area health authorities blacklisting S. Redfern of Manchester, Reynolds Tanker Services of Lydney, Gloucestershire, and J. W. Spencer Engineering of Redhill, Surrey, for alleged breach of the stage two pay limits; and whether he will place a copy in the Library.

Circular HN(77)902 dated August 1977, entitled "The Attack on Inflation: Breaches of Pay Limits: Purchasing Aspects", advised health authorities not to place contracts with the firms mentioned while they remained in breach of the pay limits. A copy is available in the Library.

Ambulance Services (West Midlands)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what consideration he has given to the report of the investigation into the cost and results of the re-organisation of the West Midlands ambulance service; and if he will make a statement;(2) what was the cost of the reorganisation of the West Midlands ambulance service;(3) who was responsible for authorising the expenditure of public money on transferring Coventry's emergency ambulance service organisation with the result that emergency calls from Coventry have to be re-routed through Birmingham; and what is being done to rectify the resulting worsening of service.

The West Midlands Regional Health Authority was responsible for the reorganisation of ambulance services in the region, and met the costs. The authority has commissioned a report on difficulties facing the metropolitan ambulance service with a view to establishing the effects these difficulties have had on standards of service to patients. The report is at present the subject of consultation with staff, but when it has been completed and considered by the authority I will write to my hon. Friend about its findings and particularly the standard of service to Coventry residents and the costs of the reorganisation, which are at present not readily available.

Liverpool Teaching Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the opening date of the Liverpool Teaching Hospital; and what technical and operational problems remain.

The target date for admitting the first patients is October 1978. Problems relating to fire precautions have been overcome and no further serious technical problems are evident. A Commissioning Committee of the Liverpool Area Health Authority (Teaching) is coordinating preparations for the hospital to he brought into use, including the determination of operational and personnel policies and the ordering of equipment; and the authority issued on 21st November a consultative document which sets out its proposals for rationalising existing hospital services as beds become available in the new hospital. The area health authority, and the Mersey Regional Health Authority, will also be taking into account the recommendations of the committee of inquiry to which I referred in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Liverpool, Garston (Mr. Loyden) on 10th November.—[Vol. 938, c.202–3]—The health authorities inform me that the commissioning programme is on target and that they are satisfied with progress to date; but, given the scale on which services have to be redeployed, it is impossible to forecast all the problems that may arise.

Population Census

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to his reply of 5th December, if he will publish in the Official Report the statistics of the Registrar General that indicate that two or three persons out of 10 approached do not reply to a voluntary census; and whether he has considered combining a voluntary section with a compulsory section for the anticipated 1981 census.

In the test census held in April 1977, which was aimed at over 100.000 households, completed forms were received from 72 per cent. of households approached; it was not possible to contact 6 per cent. of households, and 22 per cent. refused to complete and return a form. In the earlier test censuses in 1972 and 1974, 78 per cent. of households approached completed a form. Similar results have been obtained in other voluntary surveys.There is no way of testing a form that has both a compulsory and a voluntary section except in an actual census. I agree with the Registrar General that the presence of a voluntary section would lead to parts of the compulsory section being treated by some of the public as if they were voluntary. Moreover, a response rate of 70 to 80 per cent. would not provide acceptably reliable results for the questions asked in a census of population.

Family Fund

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the cost of the administration of the Family Fund expressed as a percentage of the money paid out in grants has risen from 6 per cent. in its first year of operation to 10·8 per cent. in the year ended 30th September 1977; if he expects the proportion spent on administration to rise; how this proportion compares with the administrative costs of, respectively, child benefit and attendance allowance; and if he will make a statement.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 2nd December 1977; Vol. 940, c. 434], gave the following information:I regret that, owing to a clerical error, the information I gave in my reply to my hon. Friend on 22nd November—[Vol. 939, c.

678–80]—was incorrect in one respect. The total cost of administration of the Family Fund in the period 1st October 1976–30th September 1977 was £169,529. Thus expressed as a percentage of grants paid, it has risen from 6 per

cent. in the first 17 months of its operation to 7·7 per cent. in the year ending 30th September 1977. A small rise such as this is to be expected because, while the proportion of second and subsequent grants—the amounts paid for which are, on average, lower than those for first grants—is increasing, the actual number of payments remains almost constant. I would expect this trend to continue.

The administration costs of the social security benefits specified as a percentage of benefits paid are as follows:

1973–74

per cent.

Family Allowances*3·7
Attendance allowance†3·3

1976–77

per cent.

Family allowances and child interim benefit4·9
Attendance allowance3·0

* Child benefit was payable from April 1977. In 1976–77, however, the administration costs include take-on work in readiness for child benefit.

† During 1973–74 work was proceeding on the take-on claims for the lower-rate benefit.

The administration of these two benefits, once the initial claim has been approved, comprises mainly the maintenance of payments by order books over a number of years. Therefore, the costs involved are not comparable with those for the Family Fund whose procedure involves detailed examination of each individual application.

National Finance

Building Societies

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is able to estimate the amount paid into building societies from people in Scotland.

In 1976 the total amount by way of net receipts, interest credited and repayments of principal received by building societies from people in Scotland was £360 million.

Armed Service (Gallantry Awards)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the estimated loss of revenue if all monetary awards linked to decorations for gallantry in Her Majesty's Service were exempt from tax; and what would be the estimated figure based on the exclusion of the other decor- ations which are exempted from such taxation.

Information on which to base a precise estimate is not available since the loss of revenue would depend on the personal circumstances of the recipients of such payments. However, the amount of the payments is such that the cost would be very small.

City And Financial Institutions (Inquiry)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what date he expects to receive the report of the Wilson Committee on financial matters and the City; what has been the cost of the investigations to the latest convenient date; and how these costs have been allocated.

I understand that the Committee intends to publish a progress report on 15th December. The full costs of its investigations will be shown in its final report, for which no publication date has been decided. Expenses, consultancy fees, research and staff costs are met from within the cash limits for Treasury administration on the Treasury Vote.

Peers (Pay)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the fact that to every Member of the House of Lords the £16·50 a day tax-free allowance is worth £25 a day, that to the majority it is worth £25 to £47·14, and that to a large minority it is worth £47·14 to £90·06 on a taxed basis, whether he will make it taxable to all those in receipt of incomes above £4,000 per annum.

Mortgages

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the total value of mortgages taken out by people in each separate region of the United Kingdom or in each part of the United Kingdom for which separate figures are available.

Details of outstanding mortgage debt are not available on a regional basis. However, the total value of mortgage assets of building societies in the United Kingdom at the end of 1976 was £22,529 million of which £1,228 million relates to Scotland.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is able to estimate the total number and value of new mortgages

BUILDING SOCIETY MORTGAGES: NUMBER AND VALUE OF NEW MORTGAGES BY REGION
197419751976
NumberValueNumberValueNumberValue
£m£m£m
Scotland30,00019842,00031843,000391
Northern England23,00013638,00024840,000300
Yorkshire and Humberside41,00023060,00037263,000440
East Midlands36,00021251,00034355,000404
East Anglia16,00010623,00016926,000208
Greater London31,00027448,00046259,000636
South-East (excluding Greater London)103,000832163,0001,460176,0001,768
South-West36,00024555,00041760,000502
West Midlands44,00028363,00044772,000569
North-West49,00029574,00049783,000606
Wales16,00010325,00016928,000214
Northern Ireland6,000359,000659,00080
Total, United Kingdom433,0002,950651,0004,965715,0006,117

Pay Settlements

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report detailed lists of the groups of workers who have received salary and wage increases in the past 12 months where any Government or Treasury money has been paid directly or indirectly and the actual or average amounts of such increases; and to what extent these increases have, or have not, fallen within the Government's 10 per cent. guidelines.

I regret that this information could only be collected at disproportionate cost.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer upon what date he took steps to impose sanctions upon S. Redfern of Manchester, Reynolds Tanker Services of Lydney, Gloucestershire, and J. W. Spencer Engineering of Redhill, Surrey; what form of hearing took place before he took this action; whether the firms concerned were represented by counsel at the hearing; and whether these three firms are part of the total of 11 announced by the Financial Secretary on 28th November.

in Scotland and other regions of the United Kingdom in each of the past three years.

The exercise of discretion is an administrative action and not formalised in the way the Question suggests. The three firms named were in breach of the pay guidelines in round 2, and one was also in breach of the round 1 guidelines. They are amongst the total of 11 announced by the Financial Secretary on 28th November.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Ormskirk (Mr. Kilroy-Silk) Official Report, 1st December, column 322, he considered refusing Government investment assistance to the Ford Motor Company for setting up its new plant near Cardiff; and upon what criteria he rejected this course of action, in the light of the decision of the company to break the voluntary pay code.

It is normal practice for the Government to look at all forms of existing or proposed discretionary assistance when a firm breaches the pay guidelines. The decision whether or not to modify, withdraw or refuse such assistance is taken in the light of all the circumstances of the particular case.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in view of the statements of Government policy involved, he will publish in the Official Report the correspondence between the Chief Secretary to the Treasury and the hon. Member for Melton, dated 9th November, 22nd November and 24th November, about Government sanctions for alleged breaches of pay policy.

Yes. The correspondence was as follows:From Michael Latham, M.P.House of CommonsLondon, SW1A 0AA9th November 1977Dear Joel,I have seen the usual copy of the Written Answer which you gave me yesterday to my Question about the black-listing of firms from official contracts, in which you refused to give the information for which I had asked. I am afraid that I find your Answer totally unsatisfactory. You stated that the question of sanctions is a matter between the Government and the firm. Why then did the Department of Trade issue a Press Statement on the 23rd September listing the sanctions which had been imposed on James Mackie & Sons Ltd? If this has been done for that firm, I fail to see why you cannot give the information for other firms. Indeed, I consider it a deplorable breach of the public interest that you have refused to do so.I would ask you to reconsider your decision forthwith. I consider it most unreasonable.Yours,Michael Latham.Rt. Hon. Joel Barnett M.P.House of Commons.Treasury Chambers, Parliament StreetSW1P 3AG22nd November 1977Mr. Michael Latham MPHouse of CommonsLondon SW1A 0AADear Michael,I am replying to your letter of 9th November, in which you ask me to reconsider my Reply to your Question of 8th November in view of the public announcement of sanctions against James Mackie and Sons Limited.During the weeks before the Government decided to withhold export credit guarantee from James Mackie and Sons Limited, there was a good deal of public speculation about the case, particularly in Northern Ireland. We thought it best in the circumstances to clear matters up by making an official announcement once the decision was taken.I cannot rule out the possibility that a similar set of circumstances will arise again. However, to publish such information as you have suggested as a general rule is not likely to be helpful in persuading the firm concerned to re-negotiate the excessive settlement in question. Indeed, as you mention the question of public interest, I am bound to tell you that in my view, what you suggest would definitely not be in the best public interest.Yours faithfully,Joel Barnett.From Michael Latham M.P.House of CommonsLondon, SW1A 0AA24th November 1977Dear Joel,Thank you for your letter of the 22nd November about James Mackie & Son Ltd., and the sanctions issue generally.I must say that I find it impossible to understand your reasoning when you say that publication of the names would prevent the re-negotiation of settlements in excess of the guide lines. Since, by definition, firms subject to sanctions would have refused to renegotiate, I cannot see that any public purpose is served by keeping the matter secret.I shall now have to pursue the matter through other Parliamentary channels.The Rt. Hon. Joel Barnett M.P.Chief Secretary to the Treasury,Treasury Chambers,Parliament Street,London S.W.1.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether pursuant to the replies by the Chief Secretary to the hon. Member for Melton on 8th November and by the Financial Secretary to the hon. Member for Ormskirk (Mr. Kilroy-Silk) on 28th November, he will now state how many of the 11 firms subject to sanctions allegedly broke (a) stage 1, (b) stage 2 and (c) the present arrangements.

Five firms were in breach of both stage 1 and stage 2; five were in breach of stage 2 only; and one in breach of stage 3 only.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action he is taking to see that the details of any sanctions he is taking against firms who have violated the Government's guidelines on incomes policy are communicated to trade unionists involved in those firms.

Cbi

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will list those members of the CBI who interviewed him on Thursday 1st December 1977; what matters were discussed; to what extent these included the implementation by CBI members at all times of the Government's various wage and salary restrictions so far as their own incomes are concerned; how many of those in attendance hold Government appointments; and what salary or expenses are payable in respect of these appointments.

The members of the CBI delegation which I received on 1st December were Lord Watkinson, Mr. Greenborough, Mr. Whittall, Mr. Methven, Sir Donald MacDougall, Mr. Dixon and Mr. Alexander. It is not my usual practice to publish details of private discussions of this sort. Lord Watkinson Mr. Greenborough and Mr. Methven are all members of the National Economic Development Council; they receive no salaries nor expenses in respect of these posts.

Personal Incomes

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the fact that various incomes and wages controls have reduced real wages by approximately 10 per cent. and that the Government's guidelines will not fully cover these reductions, on the basis of the known and expected inflation rate in 1978, what will be the further fall in the real wage level if the guidelines are observed.

The premise in the first part of the Question is incorrect. The first two rounds of the Government's pay policy had different effects on real wages according to income levels: at the lowest levels they resulted in increases in real wages. As regards the current round, I

June 1965June 1977*Percentage decrease
(000s)(000s)
South-East and East Anglia5,0884,6358·9
South-West9519044·9
West Midlands1,5131,32212·6
East Midlands9559035·4
Yorkshire and Humberside1,3541,18812·3
North-West1,7781,52814·1
North86576511·6
Wales70861013·8
* Provisional.

Vacancies

assured the House on 20th July—[Vol. 935, c. 1733.]—that living standards will be maintained right through this round if the guidelines are observed. Estimates of the real wage level at the end of next July depend upon the personal circumstances and income level of the person concerned and the rate of inflation then. However, I estimate that a married man with two children under 11 earning £55 a week in March 1977 will require a gross pay increase in this round of 1¼ per cent. to maintain his standard of living if inflation next July is 8 per cent.; if it is 6 per cent., he will find he has an increase in real wages of ½ per cent without any gross pay increase. This is the result of the fiscal measures I have taken this year. For a man earning £80 a week with similar personal circumstances the gross salary increase necessary to maintain his living standards I estimate to be 8½ per cent. on the 8 per cent, assumption and 6 per cent. on the lower assumption.

Employment

Males

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the number of males currently in employment in each region of England and Wales; how this compares with the position in 1964; and if he will show the percentage increase or decrease.

The boundaries of some regions changed in April 1965. The information in the following table is taken from the continuous series of employment estimates which goes back to 1965 and takes account of discontinuities. In the following table, information is given for male employees in employment for June 1965 and June 1977.vacancies to numbers unemployed in Dundee, Greenock, Clydebank, Hamilton, Glasgow, Merseyside, Newcastle, Birmingham, and London; and how this compares with the position in October 1974.

The following table shows the numbers unemployed and the

Numbers unemployed and unfilled vacancies
Unfilled vacancies
October 1974October 1977
Numbers unemployedEmployment OfficesCareers OfficesEmployment OfficesCareers Offices
October 1974October 1977
Dundee Employment Office area3,6628,4241,41429484923
Greenock Employment Office area1,5743,4881,097764694
Clydebank Employment Office area2,1153,6888919512
Hamilton Employment Office area1,1602,790137302139
Glasgow City area21,35845,9433,5031,6633,40684
Merseyside Special Development area45,07188,5394,3015962,904106
Newcastle upon Tyne Employment Office area6,14811,4793,7894741,654133
Birmingham Travel to work area20,135*46,0665,883*2,9732,822*915
Greater London59,996167,13071,11714,52339,0685,230
* Because of industrial action by some staff in the Department of Employment Group information for Birmingham is not available for October 1974 and the figures shown are for September 1974.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further measures he proposes to assist or encourage employers to take on disabled people.

I am advised by the Manpower Services Commission that it is carrying out a long-term visiting campaign to encourage employers to adopt the six major guidelines of "Positive Policies", the guide to employing disabled people which was issued in May to some 55,000 employers. The guide provides information about the assistance which the rehabilitation and resettlement service can give to employers. A further publicity campaign about "Positive Policies" is currently being undertaken. The Commission has also recently drawn up a programme of developments in its employment and training services for disabled people over the next 5–10 years. The programme, which includes a substantial number of proposals for improvements and developments and gives indications of relative priorities, will be published in the New Year.

Earnings

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give a detailed explanation of the basis upon which he formulates the national

vacancies unfilled in the areas specified. Because of possible duplication the vacancy figures for employment offices and careers offices cannot be added together to provide the ratios requested.

average wage; and how frequently, and in what ways, such methods of estimation are reviewed and revised.

Several forms of average earnings are published regularly by my Department but each has its own precise description and the term "national average wage" is not used. Full details of the measures derived from the New Earnings Survey are given on page A, 42, 59 and 60 of the publication "New Earnings Survey, Part A", which is available in the Library. The methods of estimation are kept under regular review, taking into account the views of major users, but no significant change in the methods has been found necessary in recent years.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many minutes of work are required in each of the EEC member States for a man earning the average male manual wage to be able to purchase each of the following items of goods: one kilo of rump steak, one kilo of fresh cod, one kilo of bread, one kilo of apples, one kilo of oranges, one kilo of butter, one litre of fresh milk, one kilo of potatoes and one dozen eggs.

The information required to answer this Question is collected annually, for October, by the Statistical Office of the European Communities and the International Labour Office. Comprehensive data for 1976 are not yet available. The information for October 1975 is given in the following table. No figures are given for Luxembourg because information on earnings of male manual workers in that country is not available from international sources. Comparisons of this type involve considerable difficulties of interpretation. In particular these arise from the variation in the systems of remuneration and taxation in the different countries, from the

MINUTES OF WORK REQUIRED TO EARN (BEFORE TAX) THE PRICES OF VARIOUS ITEMS OF FOOD AT OCTOBER 1975
United Kingdom*France†Federal Republic of GermanyBelgium†
Sirloin steak—1 kilo95146160133
Cod—1 kilo56834662
Bread—1 kilo918158
Apples—1 kilo1311108
Oranges—1 kilo13171212
Butter—1 kilo33814953
Milk—1 litre6865
Potatoes—1 kilo7443
Eggs—1 dozen17241519
Italy†‡Denmark†NetherlandsIreland§
Sirloin steak—1 kilo1738112579
Cod—1 kilon/a185047
Bread—1 kilo181399
Apples—1 kilo158814
Oranges—1 kilo1491115
Butter—1 kilo106394940
Milk—1 litre10465
Potatoes—1 kilo7545
Eggs—1 dozen31131219
*The average prices are derived from prices in 200 towns.
† Capital city prices.
‡ April 1975 earnings.
§ November 1975 prices and December 1975 earnings

Sources:

(a) Prices: ILO Bulletin of Labour Statistics 2nd Quarter 1976.

(b) Earnings: Ireland—Irish Statistical Bulletin, June 1976. Other countries—Hourly Earnings and Hours of Work, Eurostat 2/1976.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he will institute a publicity campaign on the question of average earnings and on how they are made up, in order to help clear up misunderstandings among many workers;(2) how average earnings are arrived at; and which industries and firms are used in the sample.

Training

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage increase was made in training opportunities scheme courses allowances with effect from 17th November; and how these in-

importance of different goods in the national patterns of consumption, and from differences in the quality and type of goods. Detailed definitions of the articles are not available and in some countries average prices are only available for the capital cities. Sirloin steak has been substituted for rump steak, prices of which are not available for October 1975.

creases fit in with Government guidelines on incomes.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Committee that TOPS course allowances were uprated from 17th November 1977 to correspond with increases in social security benefits, which are increased to keep in line with rises in prices and are not subject to the Government's pay policy. The basic training allowance—i.e., that of a single trainee aged 20 or over—increased by 14 per cent.

Women

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in the light of the need to make further progress towards equality of status and opportunity for women, he will introduce legislation to seek to amend Part VI of the Factories Act 1961.

Section 55 of the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 gave the Equal Opportunities Commission the duty to keep under review, in consultation with the Health and Safety Commission, Part VI of the Factories Act 1961 and other relevant statutory provisions in so far as they require men and women to be treated differently. My right hon. Friend has asked the Equal Opportunities Commission to put forward their proposals to him by the end of 1978.

Merseyside

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will arrange a meeting with trade unionists on Merseyside.

Yes, during the official visit by my right hon. Friend to Merseyside which has been provisionally arranged for 20th January 1978.

Plumbing

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the terms of the wages agreement arrived at by the Plumbing Joint Industry Board to take effect from 3rd October 1977 were reported to his Department; and whether the terms were within the guidelines for pay settlements laid down by the Government.

The Joint Industry Board has sent my right hon. Friend copies of its notices of promulgation. Certain aspects of the agreement need clarification, and he is arranging to see representatives of the Joint Industry Board as soon as possible.

Dismissal

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps are taken to enforce payment of a compensation award for unfair dismissal made by an industrial tribunal.

It is the responsibility of the person to whom the industrial tribunal award has been made to seek enforcement of the payment of the award if necessary.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many compensation awards for unfair dismissal made by industrial tribunals have remained un- paid three months or more after the date of the award.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when an employer goes into voluntary liquidation to avoid paying an award by an industrial tribunal under the Employment Protection Act provisions relating to unfair dismissal, what steps his former employee can take to secure payment; and what steps are taken if he sets up or attempts to set up another business.

If an employer has gone into liquidation the employee may ask the liquidator to apply for payment of the basic award of compensation for unfair dismissal from the Department of Employment's Redundancy Fund. The question of employers setting up another business is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade.

Hairdressing

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how far the Hairdressing Undertakings Wages Council is responsible to him; and what representations he has had about the council's recent decision to make pay awards which vary between 15 and 22 per cent.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 8th December 1977], gave the following information:The council is an independent statutory body which makes its own wages orders. I understand from the Secretary of the Office of Wages Councils that 125 representations have been made.

Pay Settlements

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what machinery has been established by his Department to monitor the Government's wage policy as it is applied in the private sector.

My Department systematically monitors major settlements in the private sector. Other settlements are subject to checking in a variety of ways, including applications for price increases and government assistance. My Department follows up all cases which appear to breach the policy.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether, in view of the many occasions when the Government have taken action to enforce their 10 per cent. guideline on wages with various types of sanctions, he will take the necessary action to give Ministers the statutory authority legally to enforce such policies.

I have been asked to reply.

October 1965October 1974October 1977
(Per cent.)(Per cent.)(Per cent.)
Strathclyde2·74·510·1
South-East0·91·64·6
East Anglia1·22·15·5
South-West1·62·97·3
West Midlands0·7*6·0
East Midlands0·92·35·2
Yorkshire and Humberside1·02·76·1
North-West1·53·77·7
North2·44·88·8
* Because of industrial action by some staff in the Department of Employment Group figures for West Midlands are not available for October 1974.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will express the unemployment rate in Scotland relative to that in Great Britain and England,

ScotlandGreat BritainEngland
(Per cent.)(Per cent.)(Per cent.)
November 19693·72·42·2
November 19704·52·62·3
November 19716·43·83·5
November 19726·03·43·1
November 19733·72·22·0
November 19744·02·72·5
November 19755·94·94·7
November 1976*
November 19778·56·25·9
* Because of industrial action by some staff within the Department of Employment figures for November 1976 are not available.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish a table showing the employment exchange areas in the United Kingdom in which there has been over 70 per cent. increase in unemployment since October 1974.

The numbers registered as unemployed increased by 70 per cent. or more between October 1974 and October 1977 in all employment office areas except those listed below:

South-East—Chelmsford, Hythe (Kent) and Westminster.

We do not believe that further statutory authority is necessary.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will express the unemployment rate in Strathclyde relative to that in each English region; and if he will show how this compares with the position in October 1964 and 1974.

The boundaries of some regions changed in April 1965. In the following table information is given for October 1965, October 1974 and October 1977.respectively; and if he will show how this compares with each year since 1969.

East Anglia

South-West—St. Ives and Swanage.

West Midlands—Uttoxeter.

East Midlands—Bourne, Clay Cross, Grantham and Mablethorpe.

Yorkshire and Humberside—Filey, Knottingley, Malton, Ripon, Royston, South Elmsall, Thorne and Whitby.

North West—Birkenhead, Bootle, Garston, Kirkby, Liverpool, Morecambe, Northwich, Old Swan, St. Annes-on-Sea, Walton and Manchester.

North—Barnard Castle, Bedlington, Birtley, East Bolden, Haltwhistle, Hexham, Saltbum,

South Shields, Stanley, Walker, Whitley Bay, Wingate and Workington.

Wales—Amlwch, Bethesda, Blaenau Ffestiniog, Blaenavon, Caernarvon, Garnant, Milford Haven, Penygroes, Pontlottyn, Pwllheli and Ten by.

Scotland—Campbeltown, Castle Douglas, Edinburgh, Govan, Huntly, Lerwick, Lesmahagow, Maryhill, Oban, Sanquhar, Stornoway, Stranraer, Thurso, West Calder and Wick.

Northern Ireland—Armagh, Ballymoney, Downpatrick, Kilkeel, Newcastle, Dungannon, Enniskillen, Newry and Strabane.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the number of total unemployed for more than 26 weeks at the date of the October 1977 unemployment count; if he will express this as a percentage of all employees; and what were the corresponding figures at the time of the October count for each previous year since 1945.

The present series of unemployment statistics started in July 1948. The following table shows the numbers registered for more than 26 weeks at September each year up to 1961 and at October thereafter expressed as percentages of the total numbers of employees, employed and unemployed:

Registered for more than 26 weeks (000's)Percentage of total employees (employed and unemployed)
September 1948…69·40·3
September 1949…59·70·3
September 1950…62·20·3
September 1951…42·50·2
September 1952…59·40·3
September 1953…60·50·3
September 1954…48·90·2
September 1955…37·60·2
September 1956…40·60·2
September 1957…56·70·3
September 1958…90·10·4
September 1959…112·50·5
September 1960…90·90·4
NUMBERS UNEMPLOYED AND PERCENTAGE RATES OF UNEMPLOYMENT IN THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR OF INDUSTRY IN GREAT BRITAIN AT NOVEMBER 1977
Numbers unemployedPercentage rate of unemployement
A.Total, All Industries and Services1,437,9636·2
B.Public Sector
Central and Local Government
MLH NumberIndustry
872Educational Services25,292
874Medical and Dental Services22,428
901National Government Services29,883
906Local Government Services48,576
Total of Central and Local Government126,1792·7

September 196177·50·3
October 1962.109·90·5
October 1963135·50·6
October 196499·30·4
October 196582·30·4
October 196679·80·3
October 1967143·90·6
October 1968157·60·7
October 1969157·20·7
October 1970171·90·7
October 1971238·01·1
October 1972294·11·3
October 1973204·70·9
October 1974199·70·9
October 1975315·71·4
October 1976*
October 1977557·12·4

*Because of industrial action by some staff in the Department of Employment Group, figures for October 1976 are not available.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he will now provide the information promised in the Written Answer to the hon. Member for Blaby on 24th November;(2) if he will provide figures for the percentage unemployed in the public and private sectors of the economy in November, on the same basis as that contained in the table published in Written Answers,

Official Report, 22nd February 1977, c. 557.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 24th November 1977; Vol. 939, c. 831–2], gave the following information:Separate unemployment rates for the private and public sectors can be calculated only in an imprecise way by allocating the figures for each Minimum List Heading of the Standard Industrial Classification to the sector appropriate to the majority in each heading. On this basis, the percentages for November were 5·7 in the private sector and 3 in the public sector.

Remainder of Public Sector

MLH Number

Industry

101Coal mining19,721
311Iron and steel12,924
312Steel tubes1,564
384Locomotives and railway track equipment393
385Railway carriages and wagons and trams419
601Gas3,151
602Electricity4,754
603Water Supply1,245
701Railways6,425
702Road passenger transport10,345
706Port and inland water transport3,263
707Air transport2,658
708Postal services and telecommunications10,629
Total for Remainder of Public Sector77,491

Grand total of Public Sector

203,670
C.Not elsewhere classified
Ex-HM Forces4,639
School leavers etc304,674
Total not elsewhere classified309,413
Total, Private Sector: A-(B+C)924,980

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish a table of those Scottish employment exchange areas where there is an exceptional number of people who have been unemployed for more than 12 months and more than two years.

I have been asked to reply.I regret that this information could only be provided at disproportionate cost.

Industry

Regional Development Fund

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the total funds spent in all EEC countries through the Regional Development Fund; and if he will make a statement about progress on review of the fund's operations and resources beyond 1978.

The latest available information on payments from the European Regional Development Fund to all member States is contained in the Commission's Second Annual Report on the Fund (R/1613/77). This shows that 368 million units of account (mua) was paid in 1975 and 1976 against total Commitments of 799·9 mua. Of this the United Kingdom received payments of 106·9 mua (£44·5 million) against Commitment of 228·1 mua (£95·0 million) to approved projects in the assisted areas and Northern Ireland. Since then further payments and approvals of commitment to the United Kingdom have increased total gross receipts from the Fund to £75 million and Commitment to £136·7 million.With regard to the operation of the Fund, I would refer the hon. Member to the statement on the outcome of the European Council in Brussels made by the Prime Minister yesterday.

Tyres

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) if, in the light of the Government decision to buy British textiles, he will instruct his Department that all purchases of tyres must he exclusively of those makes which include British tyre cord;(2) if, in the light of the Government decision to buy British textiles, he will instruct his Department to purchase only tyres which include British-made tyre cord;(3) how much was spent by his Department in purchasing tyres in 1974, 1975 and 1976.

For the Government's policy on procurement of textile products I would draw my hon. Friend's attention to the statement my right hon. Friend made in the House on 23rd July 1975. The Department of Industry does not itself purchase tyres on any significant scale. Normally the Department's vehicles are serviced at Property Services Agency or Ministry of Defence workshops, which replace worn tyres as and when necessary. A limited number of tyres are supplied by local garages in the course of routine vehicle servicing, but I am not aware of any practical means of establishing the origin of the tyre cord in tyres bought in this way. No separate central record of tyre purchases is maintained by this Department.

Sona Consultants Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what communication has taken place between his Department and Sona Consultants Limited in the last three months about the future use of the Moderna plant in West Yorkshire; and what information has been given by the company about any plans to undertake manufacturing at the plant.

A letter was sent by my Department's Leeds regional office to Sona Consultants Ltd. on 10th November asking about future plans for the Moderna premises at Mytholmroyd with particular reference to financial assistance. So far there has been no reply, and we have no current information on the company's intentions.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if any application for financial assistance, submitted by Sona Consultants Limited, is being considered by his Department, and if he will give details of any such application.

An application for financial assistance submitted by Sona Consultants Ltd. on 7th March 1977 was not proceeded with, and with the applicants' agreement was considered as withdrawn on 4th August 1977. No further application has been made.

British Leyland

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will seek to ensure that no more public funds authorised for investment by British Leyland will be directed by that company to meet current expenditure; and whether he will make a statement about future Government financial support for the company.

My right hon Friend hopes that it will not be necessary to decide on the authorisation of further funds for British Leyland until he has considered the revised corporate plan which the company is preparing. In his statement to the House on 25th July he made it clear that the release of the £100 million tranche authorised at that time would be a matter for the National Enterprise Board, subject to the NEB being satisfied that progress in industrial relations reform was being maintained. £50 million of this tranche still remains to be released.

Prices And Consumer Protection

Potato Chips

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he will take steps to ensure that the 25 per cent. reduction in the price of frozen chips forecast in the latest economic review of the Institute of Grocery Distribution is passed on promptly to retailers and consumers.

Retail prices of frozen chips and other frozen potato products fell by about 20 per cent. on average between the second and third quarters of this year, and there is also evidence of further reductions subsequently. It therefore appears that the forecast reduction has been passed on.

Food Prices

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection to what extent the known and expected increases in food prices and other items resulting from the ending of Great Britain's transitional period of entry into the EEC will in 1978 increase the cost of living and raise the retail price index.

The changes in agricultural support prices which will result from the completion of transition to EEC arrangements are equivalent to an increase of about 1 per cent. in consumers' expenditure on food, or about ¼ per cent. in expenditure on all items. Retail food prices are however, influenced by many other factors than institutional prices, especially the strength of demand and the quantities of stocks held by processors and distributors. For some products large stocks are currently held, and the effects of the end of transition on food prices will, therefore be spread over some time.For many industrial products, United Kingdom accession to the EEC, by reducing and eliminating tariffs, will help to restrain prices, but no estimate of the precise effect is readily available.

Competition (Policy)

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection whether he will include people of relevant commercial experience from outside the public service in the group he is setting up to review the operation of competition policy.

No. The group consists of economists, administrators and advisers within the public service. But the group's initial and limited study will be based on published material, and I anticipate that there will be an opportunity for public discussion before decisions arising from the review are taken.

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection whether the review of competition policy will include competition both within and between the nationalised industries.

The review will take into account the existing powers to refer activities of the nationalised industries to the Monopolies and Mergers Commission.

Trade

Textiles

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) if he will discuss with representatives of employers and unions in the British textile and clothing industry a scheme for issuing import licences for textile goods similar to that which operates in Belgium;(2) if he will discuss with the Belgium Government and EEC partners the measures being taken to assist the Belgian textile and clothing industries; and if he will make a statement.

I do not know of any special import licensing arrangements operated in Belgium. Although certain other measures have been discussed, none we understand has yet been introduced. Under existing MFA bilateral agreements the great majority of quotas are administered by the exporting country; member States are required to issue automatic import authorisation on production of a valid export certificate.

Wines And Spirits

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the value of (a) exports from and (b) imports to the United Kingdom of wines and spirits at the latest available date.

Information is published under SITC(R) code headings 112.12, 112.13 and 112.4 in Tables III (for imports) and VI (for exports) of the monthly issues of the "Overseas Trade Statistics of the United Kingdom", copies of which are available in the House of Commons Library.

"Morning Star"

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the total cost to date in 1977 of his Department's advertising in the Morning Star.

Multi-Fibre Arrangement

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will publish in the Official Report full details of the agreement reached with Hong Kong under the renegotiation of the Multi-Fibre Arrangement.

The EEC Council will be considering on 20th December the outcome of the European Commission's negotiations with Hong Kong. The text o' the final agreement will be published in the Official Journal of the European Communities which is available in the Library of the House.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade when he hopes to reach agreement with India, South Korea, Brazil, and Taiwan on the level of textile quotas under the renegotiation of the Multi-Fibre Arrangement.

The outcome of the negotiations between the European Commission and India, South Korea and Brazil will be considered by the Council of Ministers on 20th December. Autonomous measures will be taken against Taiwan.

National Film Development Fund

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a statement about the present financial position of the National Film Development Fund.

The two amounts of £200,000 envisaged as being available for the first two years of the scheme have, as a result of the large number of suitable projects which have come forward, already largely been committed. In view of this, I have accepted a recommendation of the Cinematograph Films Council that a further sum of £120,000 be made available from the British Film Fund to enable the scheme to continue to the end of its two year experimental period ending July 1978.

Film Industry (Interim Action Committee)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he has received a report from the Interim Action Committee on the Film Industry.

My right hon. Friend the Member for Huyton (Sir H. Wilson), in his capacity as Chairman of the Committee, has presented the Committee's interim report on the appropriate constitution and operating rôle of a British film authority. The report will be published as a Command Paper, and I shall be studying it, in consultation with my colleagues, as quickly as possible.

Education And Science

Student Grants

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science in what circumstances, if any, a student who has received no previous local authority grant, either mandatory or discretionary, can be debarred from receiving mandatory grant for a first degree course.

Local education authorities are not under a duty to make a mandatory award to a student who does not satisfy the conditions prescribed by the Local Education Authority Awards Regulations 1977, a copy of which I am sending to my hon. Friend. The main conditions are contained in Regulations 9 and 10 and concern previous study and ordinary residence in the United Kingdom. It is open to a local education authority to make a discretionary award to a student who does not satisfy the conditions for a mandatory award.