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Written Answers

Volume 942: debated on Monday 23 January 1978

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 23rd January 1978

Home Department

Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether correspondence covered by Rule 37A(1) also includes enclosures with that letter sent by the prisoner to his legal advisers or by them to him in the ordinary professional course (a) before litigation has been commenced, or (b) after litigation has been commenced.

Prison Rule 37A(1) applies only to correspondence between a prisoner and his legal adviser about legal proceedings to which the prisoner is a party. Enclosures with letters are treated as part of the correspondence and are subject to the rule.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether it would be possible, once a prisoner has ventilated his complaint through normal internal channels, for him to be granted privileged correspondence under Rule 37A(1), by a further amendment thereto, with a solicitor so that correspondence with a solicitor with a view to institution of proceedings once the complaint has been ventilated through normal internal channels, would not be subject to Rule 33(3).

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether under the Prison Rules he or his agents can inspect correspondence covered by professional privilege between a prisoner and his solicitor in the course of or with a view to litigation so as to enable him to acquaint himself with the contents thereof.

Under Prison Rule 33(3), the governor or an officer deputed by him may read or examine all correspondence to or from a prisoner, except in so far as Rule 37A(1) provides otherwise in regard to correspondence between a prisoner who is a party to legal proceedings and his legal adviser.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether information gathered from a prisoner obliged to state the full facts of his case to the Home Office or its servants before being allowed facilities to consult a solicitor is utilised by the Home Office in any subsequent proceedings commenced by that prisoner;(2) whether the provisions of the Prison Rules enable him to require a prisoner to give information which would be available under Order 24, Rule 5 of the Rules of the Supreme Court and Order 14 of the County Court Rules 1936.

I assume that my hon. Friend has in mind the requirement for a prisoner to make a complaint about his treatment in prison through the normal internal procedures before he is given facilities to seek legal advice about the possibility of instituting civil proceedings in relation to the matter complained of. No procedure has been instituted under the Prison Rules comparable with those applying under the orders to which she refers. Ventilation of the complaint through the normal internal procedures requires the prisoner to give sufficient particulars of the circumstances and actions giving rise to the complaint to enable the complaint to be investigated. Whether any statement he makes will be utilised in any subsequent proceedings will depend on its relevance to those proceedings.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what regulations, directions, or assistance he proposes to give to prisoners and their legal advisers to distinguish correspondence subject to Rule 37A(1) from correspondence subject to Rule 33(3) so that prison staff may be aware of the reason for the correspondence without the necessity of perusing the communication.

None. I am not persuaded that there is a need for measures of the kind suggested, nor that they could ensure that mere examination of a piece of correspondence without further perusal would invariably be sufficient to establish that it was correspondence between a prisoner and his legal adviser relating to legal proceedings to which the prisoner was a party.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department under what statute or other decision of the courts the governor of a prison is empowered to investigate a criminal offence or to conduct an investigation to decide whether or not a criminal offence has been committed and should be reported to the police.

The Prison Rules 1964, as amended, provide that every charge against a prisoner of an offence against discipline shall be inquired into, in the first instance, by the governor. If the alleged offence is a serious criminal offence, the governor is required to report the facts to Prison Department headquarters, which decides whether the police should be informed. Other cases—for example, petty pilfering or minor assaults other than on a member of staff—do not have to be reported to headquarters but may be dealt with as matters of internal discipline.The governor also has, in accordance with normal Civil Service practice, a general duty to investigate any offence against discipline alleged to have been committed by any member of the prison staff, and to institute disciplinary proceedings in appropriate cases. If, in the course of his inquiry, he has reason to believe that a criminal offence may have been committed, he is required to consult with the appropriate Home Office department to decide whether the police should be informed.

Refugees

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will set up a permanent reception centre to provide short-term assistance to newly-arrived refugees.

Television (Fourth Channel)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, if a decision is reached to approve a fourth television channel, what would be the delay before such a channel could start transmitting, consequent upon the purchase and commissioning of the necessary transmitting equipment.

The timetable for the start of a fourth television service would depend on many factors, of which the engineering work would be only one. I would ask the hon. Member to await the Government's proposals on the future constitution, structure and organisation of broadcasting, which I hope to publish in the form of a White Paper.

Policewomen

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many women police officers have been assaulted on duty during each of the past five years.

I regret that this information is not held centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate effort and cost.

Unification Church

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in the light of the revelations of Mrs. Patt concerning the practices of the various bodies known collectively as the Unification Church, he will set up a committee of inquiry to hear evidence on the practices of these organisations.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will establish an inquiry into the practice of causing young persons to hand over sums of money and personal property to the various bodies known as the Unification Church after a period of rigorous indoctrination to the effect that Sun Myung Moon is the Messiah; and whether he will further inquire into the ultimate use and destruction of such property and moneys.

I would refer my hon. Friends to the reply I gave to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Swansea, East (Mr. Anderson) on 18th January—[Vol. 942, col. 232.]

Police (Sex Discrimination Act)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will invite the Police Advisory Board to review the working of the Sex Discrimination Act on the police service.

Public Records

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list any categories of public records and documents for which he is responsible, containing information which is available to the public only upon the payment of a fee, after the passage of 30 years and 100 years, respectively.

There are no public records or documents for which I am responsible which contain information available to the public only upon the payment of a fee.

Drunkenness (Penalties)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many men and women were in prison at the latest available date for the offence of simple drunkenness; and where they were located;(2) if he will list (

a) the number of men and ( b) the number of women imprisoned for the offence of simple drunkenness in each year since 1971; and what was the average length of sentence of men and women for each year.

Under the Licensing Act 1872, Section 12, the maximum penalty for simple drunkenness is a fine.

National Finance

Duty-Free Facilities (United Kingdom— Republic Of Ireland)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has reached any conclusion regarding the introduction of duty-free facilities for travellers between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland.

I have considered this matter jointly with Mr. Colley Tanaiste and Minister for Finance in the Republic of Ireland. We have decided that as from 1st March 1978 both countries will allow duty-free stores to ships, both passenger and cargo, of not less than 40 tons sailing between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland on routes approved by the two Customs administrations and to aircraft departing from Customs airports on flights between the two countries. Passengers departing on such routes may have access to duty-free shops where they already exist and where suitable control arrangements are made.This will mean, in effect, that passengers and crews on these routes will have access to the same duty-free facilities as are allowed for vessels or aircraft departing for other EEC countries. These arrangements are, of course, subject to review in the context of possible future EEC requirements for restictions on duty-free stores in this field.

Capital Transfer Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing at current prices and at constant prices the starting rate threshold for capital transfer tax and the thresholds for each higher rate band, in March 1974 and in January 1978.

The table below shows the thresholds which were applicable to lifetime transfers in March 1974—and to transfers on death from November 1974—at prices current in March 1974 and at current retail prices in November 1977, the latest month for which figures are available, together with the corresponding thresholds applicable at present

March 1974 Thresholds
At March 1974 prices £At November 1977 prices† £Present Thresholds‡ £
15,00027,40025,000
20,00036,50030,000
25,00045,70035,000
30,00054,80040,000
40,00073,10050,000
50,00091,30060,000
60,000109,60070,000
80,000146,10090,000
100,000182,700110,000
120,000219,200130,000
150,000274,000160,000
200,000*365,300*210,000*
250,000*456,600*260,000*
300,000*548,000*310,000*
500,000*913,300510,000
1,000,0001,826,5001,010,000
2,000,0003 653,0002,010,000
* Life-time transfer only.
† Rounded to the nearest £100.
‡ As proposed in the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Economic Statement on 26th October 1977.

Banking (Security)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will discuss with the Bank of England the possibility of rationalising cash handling services and the supply of notes and coins in England and Wales to minimise duplication and lack of co-ordination between different banks and reduce security risks.

The matters referred to are under consideration between those concerned, including the Royal Mint, and all parties are conscious of the security aspect.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what is the cost of the collection of value-added tax; and what saving would be made if the threshold were increased to (a) £10,000 (b) £100,000;(2) what is the revenue raised by value added tax; and what revenue would be lost if the threshold were increased to (

a) £10,000, and ( b) £100,000.

In 1976–77, net receipts of value added tax were £3,769·5 million, and it is estimated that the cost of administering the tax was about £80 million. It is not possible to estimate with any reasonable accuracy the saving on administrative costs from any particular

£ million 1977 Survey Prices
1977–781978–791979–801980–811981–82
England6374776460
Scotland*87102948989
Wales*3440404043
* (i) Includes expenditure by the Development Agencies on derelict land clearance and environmental schemes which are carried out in England by local authorities and included in programme 8; (ii) on investment in individual companies analogous to NED expenditure.
In addition, industry in the regions benefits substantially from other support programmes shown in Table 2.4.Forecasts by English economic planning regions are not available, nor is a breakdown between England, Scotland and Wales of the forecast of regional development grant payments.Details of expenditure in past years are available in the Annual Report on the Industry Act 1972, for those items covered by that Act, for the year ended 31st March 1977 which was published on 26th July 1977.

increase in the registration exemption limit because of uncertainty about the number of persons becoming eligible to deregister who would choose to do so. The likely loss of revenue if the limit were raised to £10,000 taxable turnover a year can, however, be reasonably estimated as being of the order of £15 million in a full year. On the other hand, raising the limit to £100,000 a year would cause such a change in the nature of the tax that, again, it is not possible to make a realistic estimate of the revenue loss.

Budget 1978

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he intends to open his Budget for the 1978–79 financial year.

Regional Aid

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will show the public expenditure plans to 1981–82 on total regional support and regeneration, Table 2.4 Vol. II Command Paper No. 7049, broken down by Scotland, Wales and the English economic planning regions.

The table below shows the breakdown of expenditure on regional support and regeneration, other than regional development grants, between England, Scotland and Wales.

National Savings Bank

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the decline in real terms in the total balances in National Savings Bank ordinary and investment accounts over the last 10 years and 25 years, respectively; what the actual values of the total balances were; and what they should have been to have maintained their real value.

The investment account service of the National Savings Bank was introduced in 1966. The total balance in investment accounts at 31st March 1967 was £75·7 million, equivalent in real terms to £26·6 million at 31st March 1977. To have retained its internal purchasing power at 31st March 1977, the 1967 balance would have needed to be £215·3 million. The actual balance held at 31st March 1977 was £671·3 million.The total balances in ordinary accounts at 31st March 1952 and 31st March 1967 were £1,872·5 million and £1,730·4 million respectively, equivalent in real terms to £410·7 million and £608·3 million at 31st March 1977. To have retained the internal purchasing power at 31st March 1977, the 1952 and 1967 balances would have needed to be £8,537·3 million and £4,922·4 million respectively. The actual balance held at 31st March 1977 was £1,548·4 million.It should be noted, however, that, in attempting comparisons of balances at different periods of time, there can be no

SUBSIDY PAYMENTS TO INDUSTRY AND COMMERCE IN 1976–77 AND 1977–78
Privately owned£ million at 1977 survey prices Nationalised and publicly owned
1976–771977–781976–771977–78
Agricultural price guarantees-1·62·3
Market support under the Common Agricultural Policy of the European Community183·5141·4
Agricultural production grants and subsidies53·057·3
Agriculture—support for capital and other improvements0·40·6
Support for agriculture in special areas82·145·0
Other assistance to agricultural production, food processing and marketing32·819·4
Support for the fishing industry0·1
Forestry32·834·7
Regional support and regeneration: Provision of land and buildings5·17·6
Selected assistance to industry in assisted areas22·644·3
Special assistance for rural and highland areas1·4
Regional employment premium225·43·313·0
Scottish and Welsh Development Agencies4·68·6
Technological and industrial sponsorship0·50·4
General support to industry:
Selective assistance to individual industries, firms and undertakings33·535·8
Refinancing of home shipbuilding lending—interest support costs50·526·4
Assistance to the shipbuilding industry6·438·2
Financial assistance to the coal industry53·561·9
Compensation paid to nationalised industries—other than for price restraint67·321·0
Employment services and employment rehabilitation2·75·4
Industrial relations and other labour market services*126·1285·8

reason to expect savers in general to maintain the real value of their past savings.

Government Aid

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total amount paid in subsidy to privately-owned industry and commerce in (a) the financial year 1976–77 and (b) the current year to the latest convenient date, broken down in each case into convenient categories of aid; and what is the total subsidy to nationalised and publicly-owned industry and commerce similarly broken down.

The following table provides the information, at 1977 survey prices, for the financial year 1976–77 and the latest estimate for 1977–78, the information for both years being consistent with the total subsidies figures published in Table 10 of Cmnd 7049-I. The table relates to Great Britain only.

£ million at 1977 survey prices

Privately owned

Nationalised and publicly owned

1976–77

1977–78

1976–77

1977–78

Central government subsidies paid to:
British Rail413·5438·5
National Freight Corporation30·027·9
Scottish Transport Group3·53·2
Other central government transport subsidies0·30·3
Civil Aviation Authority44·525·6
Other civil aviation services0·10·1
British Waterways Board12·314·2
Other environmental services0·81·2

* Includes temporary employment subsidy.

In addition there are certain subsidies which are payable both to private sector and to public sector concerns and for

£ million at 1977 1976–77

Survey prices 1977–78

Paid by central Government:
Refinancing of fixed rate export credits—interest support costs224·380·0
Cost escalation guarantees3·0
Paid by local authorities:
Public transport subsidies212·5183·7

Employers (Taxation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the yield of each tax levied upon employers.

The only tax which is directly levied on employers as such is the national insurance surcharge, which came into effect on 6th April 1977. This is estimated to yield £1,190 million in 1977–78.

Pay Settlements

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in view of settlement of a 14 per cent. increase in wages at Ford's, whether he anticipates other similar settlements where no discretionary action by Her Majesty's Government may be appropriate; and if so, how many.

I am afraid the hon. Member's arithmetic is wrong. The rest of the Question is therefore hypothetical.

Monetary Union

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on his policy towards monetary union within the EEC following the statement made to the European Assembly in Luxembourg on Tuesday 17th January 1978 by Mr. Roy Jenkins calling for the establishment of the framework of monetary union.

which a breakdown between the two is not available. They are:

Industry

Steel

11.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the future of the Scottish steel industry.

Discussions between the Government, the British Steel Corporation and the TUC Steel Committee are in progress. These discussions take account of the Corporation's activities in Scotland and elsewhere in the United Kingdom. I will make a statement on the outcome of these discussions at the earliest opportunity.

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his most recent estimate of the capacity that will be required of the United Kingdom steel industry in the mid-1980s.

The future capacity requirement is one of the topics covered by the current discussions between the Government, the British Steel Corporation and the trade unions which are not yet completed.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if, pursuant to the Prime Minister's statement, Official Report, 17th January 1978, columns 244–5, concerning losses by steel-making industries, he will publish in the Official Report the figures which he had been given which led him to his conclusion.

COMPARISON OF MAJOR STEEL PRODUCERS—PUBLISHED RESULTS 1976–77 AND HALF YEAR 1977
1976–77—Published results1977—Published half year results*
CompanyProfit/(Loss) £ millionCrude Steel Production Million tonnesProfit/(Loss) per Tonne £ per tonneProfit/(Loss) £ millionCrude Steel Production Million tonnesProfit/(Loss) per Tonne £per tonne
British Steel Corporation(95)19·7(4·8)(204)8·9(22·9)
Usinor (France)(146)8·9(16·4)(107)4·3(24·9)
Italsider (Italy)(88)10·9(8·1)(211)51(41·4)
Sacilor (France)(131)4·3(30·5)(85)3·2(26·6)
Cockerill (Belgium(31)5·1(6·1)(60)2·5(24·0)
Arbed (Luxembourg)(22)4·0(5·5)(34)1·9(17·9)
Bethlehem Steel (USA)(264)†11·4(23·2)
* (i) BSC results are for the first six months of the financial year.
(ii) Bethlemen Steel are for the first nine months of the calendar year.
(iii) All others are first six calendar months.
† This includes £435 million write-off of closure costs and other exceptional items.
‡ Not available.

Aircraft

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what current projects by the British aerospace industry are in receipt of support from public funds; and which of these involve projects for British Airways.

Civil aerospace projects currently being funded by my Department are Concorde and its Olympus 593 engine and the RB211 and M45H engine programmes. British Airways operate the Concorde with Olympus engines and Boeing 747s and Lockheed L1011s with RB211 engines.

Ykk Company

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much public money has been given by his Department in the form of grants to the YKK Company in Crewe, Cheshire, during the last year for which figures are available.

Shipbuilding

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he intends to announce a long-term strategy for the future of British shipbuilding.

It is the duty of British Shipbuilders to formulate a corporate plan which will be considered by my Department.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether finance from the Shipbuilding Intervention Fund is being used to subsidise the six 15,500 tons deadweight dry cargo vessels being supplied to the Indian Government by British Shipbuilders Limited.

Negotiations for the supply of these ships have not yet been completed, but British Shipbuilders are expected to require some assistance from the Intervention Fund to secure the orders.

British Steel Corporation

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his latest estimate of the loss made by the British Steel Corporation during the current financial year and if he will make a statement.

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what he expects to be the loss of the British Steel Corporation for the year 1977–78.

I would refer the hon. Members to the answer which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Feltham and Heston (Mr. Kerr) on 16th January.—[Vol. 942, c. 32–44.]

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he will next meet the Chairman of the British Steel Corporation.

My right hon. Friend is in frequent contact with the Chairman, whom he last saw on 19th January. There is no firm date for the next meeting.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, of the small investment projects up to £2 million to be proceeded with by the British Steel Corporation in its investment programme, if he will state the total value of these projects.

The British Steel Corporation expects to spend a total of £120 million in its current financial year on investment projects individually costing under £2 million.

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he proposes to make a further statement outlining his decisions regarding the future of the British Steel Corporation.

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he next expects to make a statement on the British Steel Corporation.

I shall make a statement as soon as I am in a position to do so, in the light of progress on the present discussions between Government, the British Steel Corporation and the TUC Steel Committee. I regret that I am at present unable to be specific as to the timing.

Industrial Strategy

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on progress of the industrial strategy.

At its next meeting on 1st February the National Economic Development Council will be considering the end-year reports which sector working parties have just submitted. I am confident that, through the efforts of all the parties involved, the industrial strategy will secure an improved international trading performance by manufacturing industry.

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry in what ways the industrial strategy has contributed to recovery in productivity on the part of British manufacturing industry.

Despite the deepest world recession for 40 years, genuine progress has been made in establishing conditions in which British industry can do well at home and abroad.

Improvement Areas

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry to what extent the powers proposed for industrial improvement areas where they are established within the assisted areas will add to those already existing for industrial and regional aid.

Within industrial improvement areas local authorities will be able to make grants and loans for improvements to amenities as well as grants for the conversion and improvement of industrial buildings. Regional development grants are normally restricted to the adaptation of buildings forming part of qualifying premises, while selective financial assistance is available only for the purposes of Sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act 1972. Some projects may qualify both under the Industry Act 1972 and the Inner Urban Areas Bill.

Hs146 Aircraft

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he expects to receive a recommendation on the future of the HS146 from the Board of British Aerospace.

British Aerospace is continuing to fund work on the HS146. We are discussing the prospects of the HS146 with it, in the context of other potential civil aircraft projects, and hope to reach a decision as soon as possible.

British Leyland

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on his recent discussions with British Leyland.

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what are the most recent discussions he has held with the National Enterprise Board concerning the future of British Leyland; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend met the Chairmen of the NEB and British Leyland last week for a general discussion about British Leyland. My right hon. Friend does not expect to receive the NEB's recommendations until March.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on future investment plans for British Leyland.

My right hon. Friend is awaiting a report from the National Enterprise Board on British Leyland's revised corporate plan.

Chemical Manufacturing

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what assessment he has made of the effect on the United Kingdom chemical industry of the agreement made for the supply of chemical manufacturing plants to the USSR under the Government's £950 million line of credit.

Some of the output from these plants would almost certainly be sold on Western markets whoever built the chemical plants in the USSR. The credit available under the agreement helped win significant business for United Kingdom exporters of plant and equipment.

Factories

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many advance factories have been built on Merseyside over the past three years; how many nursery unit factories have been built; and what future plans he has for developing such units and factories.

30 advance factories have been completed on Merseyside in the three years to 31st December 1977. Of these nine comprise 38 terrace or nursery units. A further 19 factories are under construction, seven of which will provide 22 nursery units. My right hon. Friend the Minister of State has already announced that another 16 factories will be built, six of which will comprise 20 nursery units.

Production

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his current estimate of the rate of expansion of production by British manufacturing industry throughout 1978.Treasury's Press release on 26th October

As indicated in the last, an increase in the volume of manufacturing production of some 3½ per cent. is expected between the second half of 1977 and the second half of 1978.

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what plans he has to increase industrial output and performance, particularly export performance.

Improving industrial performance and international competitiveness is the central aim of the Government's industrial strategy and of the work going on under the auspices of the National Economic Development Council. My policies, and those of the Government in general, are all designed to achieve this objective.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will give a general direction to those nationalised industries for which he is sponsoring Minister that they should meet the quota of 3 per cent. employment of disabled people since, as revealed by the Department of Employment Gazette, they do not currently do so.

My right hon. Friend has already asked the nationalised industries for which he is responsible to review their employment policies with a view to promoting the employment of more disabled people; and the chairmen have confirmed that they are doing their utmost to increase the number. The figures published in the Gazette relate only to disabled employees who have registered. There are many disabled people employed in these industries who have not registered.

Production Engineers

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what advice his Department receives from professional production engineers on its industrial policies.

There are five professionally qualified production engineers at Principal level and above working in headquarters divisions of my Department. These are backed up by a further six at ranks below Principal level. There are also a number of professionally qualified production engineers working in the Department's various reasearch establishments.Apart from departmental staff, I am advised by a number of senior professional production engineers, having between them wide industrial experience, who are members of the Steering Group of the Department's Manufacturing Advisory Service or its Merchanical Engineering and Machine Tools Requirements Board. If circumstances require it, my Department is also able to employ specialist consultants to undertake particular investigations and advise me on subsequent action.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will appoint a professional production engineer to his staff to advise on industrial policies.

No. I am satisfied that at present the availability of advice from professional production engineers on matters of industrial policy meets the requirements of my Department.

Meriden Motorcycles Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what further requests for financial assistance he has received from the Meriden Co-operative; and whether he will make a statement on future Government assistance to the cooperative.

For reasons of commercial confidence it is not the practice to disclose whether or not applications for assistance have been received from particular companies. Any applications for assistance received from Meriden Motorcycles Ltd. will be considered against the established criteria and in the light of the circumstances at the time.

Paper

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what assurances have been sought by the British paper industry about the effect on that industry of the United Kingdom commitment to promote exports of Finnish goods and, in particular, upon the duty-free quota levels for imports from Finland.

The British paper industry has not sought any such assurances, but the British Paper and Board Industry Federation has asked for, and received, clarification of British Aerospace's undertaking to promote the export of Finnish goods.

Port Talbot

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, in view of the uncertainty surrounding the British Steel Corporation's programme, when a go-ahead will finally be given, if at all, to Port Talbot.

The Corporation's investment programme, including the proposed Port Talbot development, is one of the issues covered by the present discussions between the Government, BSC and the TUC Steel Committee.

Aeronautical Research

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he proposes to make a statement on the Commission Document R/1964/77 concerning an action programme for aeronautical research.

My right hon. Friend the Minister of State will make a statement on the Commission Document R/1964/77 when he opens the debate today on the motion,

"That this House takes note of Developments in the EEC civil aircraft sector as outlined in the Government's memorandum of 17 January 1978."

Chrysler Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he will next meet the Chairman of the Chrysler Motor Corporation.

I have no immediate plans for a further meeting with the chairman of Chrysler Corporation.

Rolls-Royce

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Surrey, North-West on Thursday 12th January, parliamentary Question 421, whether he will publish those sections of the Rolls-Royce plan which he has received from the National Enterprise Board covering the period 1978 to 1982 which are not commercially confidential.

Examination of the plan has shown that there are no sections which can be considered as containing information not commercially confidential, and, therefore, suitable for publication.

Departmental Banking

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

I have been asked to reply also to the Questions addressed to the Secretaries of State for Energy, Trade, and Prices and Consumer Protection.The Departments of Industry, Trade, Prices and Consumer Protection and Energy share common accounts services. The Paymaster-General acts as banker, makes payments, receives money and holds balances. Commercial banking services are used for cash requirements and for the transfer of receipts and balances to the Paymaster-General's account at the Bank of England. Banking arrangements are reviewed periodically to ensure that the best possible terms are secured and, where appropriate, competitive quotations are invited.

Race Relations (Court Case)

41.

asked the Attorney-General what representations he has received following the recent judgment relating to racialist incitement; and what action he proposes to take.

I have received many representations. Most have urged me to enforce the law in relation to incitement to racial hatred, and I shall continue to authorise the institution of proceedings in cases where the evidence justifies that course.

Central Criminal Court (Judges)

45.

asked the Attorney-General how many judges continue to sit as permanent judges at the Old Bailey; how many have retired since the passing of the Courts Act 1971; how many non-permanent circuit judges have sat at the Old Bailey during the last year; and what steps are being taken to accelerate the implementation of the provisions of the Courts Act 1971 providing for the abolition of permanent judges at the Old Bailey.

Ten permanent Old Bailey judges now sit there: since the Courts Act, two have retired, two have transferred elsewhere and one has died. No further permanent judges have been appointed: the Courts Act provides not for the abolition of the permanent judges but that there shall be no further appointments. Twenty-seven other circuit judges sat at the Old Bailey in 1977.

Affray Case Charges (Manchester)

46.

asked the Attorney-General why the Director of Public Prosecutions, after the police had sent him the papers on the case, decided not to prosecute National Front members who were subsequently privately prosecuted and convicted of affray and other charges after seriously injuring members of the audience at an indoor meeting in Manchester.

I understand that notices of appeal are about to be served. In those circumstances, it would be proper to treat the case as if it were already again sub judice.

Director Of Public Prosecutions

47.

asked the Attorney-General if he will carry out a full inquiry into the working of the Director of Public Prosecutions' office in Manchester, in view of its recent failures.

No. The Director has no office in Manchester, and cases referred to him are considered by him and his staff at his office in London. I have every confidence in the manner in which the Director carries out his duties.

European Court Of Human Rights (Torture Case)

48.

asked the Attorney-General why the United Kingdom did not contest the issue of torture raised against it, in the event unsuccessfully, by the Republic of Ireland in the recent case in the European Court of Human Rights.

The Government took the view that no useful purpose would be served in this long protracted litigation by a re-examination by the Court of matters already dealt with comprehensively by the European Human Rights Commission. We therefore asked the Court not to reach decisions of its own on matters on which the Commission had found against the United Kingdom. This broad approach undoubtedly helped to produce a result which, taken as a whole, was highly satisfactory.

Law Officers' Department (Banking)

asked the Attorney-General when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

Prices And Consumer Protection

Cosmetics

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection when proposed EEC regulations covering cosmetic products are expected to be brought into effect in the United Kingdom; what transitional arrangements will be allowed to enable manufacturers, importers and retailers to comply with the regulations; and whether he will make a statement.

Member States are required to implement the EEC Directive 76/768/EEC relating to cosmetic products by 30th January this year, but have discretion to permit the marketing of non-complying products within their territory for a period of up to 18 months from that date.A draft of the implementing regulations has been shown to interested bodies and my Department is considering the comments received. The regulations will now be made as soon as possible. In deciding on operative dates within the 18 months' period from 30th January, account will be taken of the views expressed by manufacturers, importers, retailers and others.

Cyprus (Hotels)

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection, in view of the appearance of advertisements involving hotels in Northern Cyprus of which the ownership is disputed and sub judice, whether he is satisfied that those who have contracted to take holidays in those hotels are adequately protected in the event of a decision in the courts favourable to the previous owners of these hotels.

I cannot, without further information, comment on any particular case. However, in general, if a prospective holidaymaker makes a contract direct with a hotel which subsequently changes ownership, and the contractual liability is not assumed by the new owners, the position under English law is that the holidaymaker would not be able to obtain redress other than by suing the former owners for breach of contract. If on the other hand the contract were made with a travel agent or other intermediary the position may be different, and in that event my hon. Friend may wish to draw the situation to the attention of the Association of British Travel Agents.

Transport

British Railways (Freight Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what part of the £56 million of British Railway's infrastructure costs in 1976 that related to freight was attributable to (a) sidings and (b) routes that were open to freight but not passenger traffic.

British Rail's infrastructure costs related to freight in 1976 were in fact £64 million, of which £5 million was related to sidings, loops, connections etc., and £33 million to routes that were open to freight but not passenger traffic.

Road Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will introduce legislation to increase the maximum penalty for failure to stop after accidents involving injury to the person or damage to other vehicles.

No. The penalties for this offence were reviewed during the passage of the Road Traffic Act 1974, under which the maximum fine was increased from £50 to £100.

Motor Cyclists

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what percentage of total road accident fatalities is represented by motor cyclists in the age groups 16 to 17 years for the last 12 months; and what were the corresponding percentages for 1967 and 1957.

The following is the available information:

16–17 YEAR OLD TWO-WHEELED MOTOR CYCLIST* FATALITIES AS A PERCENTAGE OF ALL ROAD ACCIDENT FATALITIES: GREAT BRITAIN
19571967Percentages October 1976–September 1977
244
* Includes mopeds and motor scooters.

Drinking And Driving

asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will introduce legislation to increase the effectiveness of the current law relating to the breathalyser and driving under the influence of alcohol.

The Blennerhassett Committee made several recommendations for increasing the effectiveness of the law on drinking and driving. The Government have accepted these as a basis for legislation, but this will not be introduced this Session.

Disabled Persons (Employment Quota)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will give a general direction to those nationalised industries for which he is the sponsoring Minister that they should meet the quota of 3 per cent. employment of disabled people since, as revealed by the Department of Employment Gazette, they do not currently do so.

I am very anxious that the nationalised industries for which I am responsible should play their full part in providing employment opportunities for the disabled. I am sure they recognise their responsibilities, and it is not necessary for me to issue general directions about the matter.

Roads (Maintenance)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport, assuming current rates of expenditure on road surfacing and reconstruction, what he estimates will be the number of years required to achieve reasonable road standards in the South-East; and to what extent he estimates maintenance costs will be exacerbated if expenditure is deferred.

I am satisfied that reasonable road standards already exist in the South-East.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport of the total road system in the South-East, what he estimates as the percentage requirement for surface treatment per annum to avoid structural failure; and if he will give similar figures for the North-East.

Ports (Motorway Access)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will indicate the accessibility of Great Britain's five main provincial ports to the motorway system, stating the mileage of each from a motorway access point; and what are his priorities for improving the position.

I shall write to the hon. Member with the detailed information. In general, the improvement of routes to the major ports is one of my main priorities.

Metrication (Distances)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what are expected to be the advantages to the residents of Great Britain of substituting kilometres for miles under EEC Directives 71/354 and 76/770.

Apart from the advantages that attach to the metric system generally, an answer should await the period of consultation that will precede any decisions.

Remould Tyres

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what action he proposes to take to ensure that purchasers of remould tyres have a guarantee of adequate safety and durability standards, following the withdrawal of British Standard AU144.

British Standard AU144a was superseded in July 1977 by BSAU144b, and this revised standard provides greater safeguards for the purchaser.

Roads (Loading-Bearing Capacity)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what studies are made into the load-bearing capacities of former side roads before new traffic schemes redesignate them as major routes.

This is a matter for local highway and traffic authorities to decide according to the circumstances of each case.

Parked Vehicles (Hours Of Darkness)

asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the current legislation regarding parked vehicles in unlit or semi-lit streets during the hours of darkness; if this is conducive to road safety; and if he will make a statement.

Under Section 68 of the Road Traffic Act 1972, vehicles on the road in the dark must, except as provided in regulations, have their lamps lit. Regulations made in 1972 exempted most light-weight vehicles when parked on roads with a speed limit of 30 mph or less, facing in the same direction as the flow of traffic and not less than 15 yards from a junction. In 1975, the exemption was extended to vehicles parked in recognised parking places.The purpose of the 1972 regulations was to introduce order into a confused situation and to improve enforceability. It was thought that an extra 1,100 vehicles parked on 30 mph roads were involved in injury accidents in the year following the introduction of the regulations, but it is not known how far this was due to parked vehicles being inherently more dangerous when unlit or to an increase in the number of parked vehicles.

asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) how many minor accidents were caused by parked vehicles in unlit or semi-lit streets during the hours of darkness in each of the last five years: (a) in Cambridgeshire and (b) in the rest of the country;(2) how many serious accidents were caused by vehicles parked in unlit or semi-lit streets during the hours of darkness in each of the last five years: (

a) in Cambridgeshire and ( b) in the rest of the country.

The available information is as follows:

INJURY ACCIDENTS IN DARKNESS WHERE VEHICLE CONTRIBUTED TO THE ACCIDENT: GREAT BRITAIN
19751976
No street lightingStreet lights unlitNo street lightingStreet lights unlit
Fatal253121
Serious1363115724
Slight2246522074
All severities3859938999
I regret that information for more than two years could be extracted only at disproportionate cost and that statistics of road accidents and casualties in local areas are a matter for the local authorities concerned. I suggest that the hon. Member gets in touch with Cambridgeshire County Council.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Fishing Quotas

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will draw to the attention of the EEC authorities on Monday 16th January 1978 when he meets them to discuss renegotiations of the common fisheries policy, the difficulties of EEC quota systems without strict licensing.

I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's statement on 19th January and to the reply given to the hon. Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) on 12th January.—[Vol. 942, c. 676–86; Vol. 941, c. 817.]

Sheep Flock

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now state the corrected figure for the size of the sheep breeding flock at June 1977.

The provisional outcome of the June 1977 census puts the United Kingdom sheep breeding flock at 13,697,000. This corrects the figure given to the hon. Member on 12th December 1977.—[Vol. 941, c. 79.]

Agriculture (Subsidies And Grants)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what financial support in subsidies and grants has been provided to the agriculture industry in each of the last 10 years for which figures are available.

Details of the subsidies and grants provided to the agricultural industry are given in the series "Annual Review of Agriculture", published annually. The latest of these is Cmnd. 7058, Table 25 of which gives figures for 1973–74 to 1977–78.

Elms

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what, if any, species of elm are positively resistant to elm disease; and what research is being pursued along these lines.

No elm is immune to the aggressive strain of Dutch elm disease, although of those grown in the British Isles some, such as wych elm or smooth-leaved elms, show in their natural environment greater resistance than the English elm. The Forestry Commission is associated with and supports current work on the selection and breeding of resistant elms in the Netherlands. Similar work is being done in North America. The Dutch programme includes an investigation into the high level of resistance to the disease shown by some Asian elms with a view to breeding this quality into European species.

Employment

Travel Expenses

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will give as detailed a list as may be available of firms' wages councils and trade union agreements which allow employees to have free travel or payment to and from their homes and place of employment; and how many of these are on a tax-free basis.

Detailed information on travel-to-work allowances is not collected by my Department.

Youth Opportunities Programme (Ipswich)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how the interests of Peterborough will be represented in the work of the area board for the youth opportunities programme based at Ipswich.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the board based at Ipswich will cover the counties of Cambridgeshire, Essex, Norfolk and Suffolk. Its members have yet to be appointed. Consultations about membership are being held with trade unions, employers and local authorities so as to ensure that the board is fully representative of all parts of its area.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what financial conditions have been attached to the operation of projects under the two special programmes for unemployed people announced by him on 29th June 1977 and due to commence in April 1978.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the financial conditions which will be attached to the operation of projects under the new special programmes for unemployed people are still under consideration, but it is hoped to publish details shortly.

Flood Damage Redundancies (Wisbech)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will consider aid in the form of temporary employment subsidies to those businesses in and around Wisbech which were so damaged by last week's floods as to cause staff redundancies pending restoration.

Any private sector company facing a redundancy of 10 or more workers in an establishment, no matter what the cause of redundancy, may apply for TES.

Safety Officers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects the Health and Safety Commission to complete its review of the training and qualifications of safety officers; and if he intends to publish a report of the review.

I refer my hon. Friend to my answer of 16th December 1977.—[Vol. 941, c. 437.]—The Chairman of the Health and Safety Commission is unable to give me a firm date for the completion of its review. This is a complex subject. There may well be a need for further discussions with interested parties, but it is too early to say what form these might take.

Retirement

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many male employees retire at the age of 60 years as part of their conditions of service; and how many of these men were in the public and private sectors of the economy, respectively.

The latest published Government Actuary's survey of occupational pension schemes, from their Fourth Survey of 1971, shows that 8·7 million male employees were then members of occupational pension schemes. Of those 8·7 million, 20 per cent.—about 1·75 million—were members of schemes which had a normal pension age of 60, of whom about ½ million were employed in the private sector.

Information is not available, however, on how many employees who have a normal pension age of 60 years actually retire at that age or about the retirement ages of male employees who are not members of occupational pension schemes.

London Weighting Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether any geographical changes have been made in the last three years to the Inner and Outer London areas, for the purposes of qualifying for London weighting allowance.

It is for negotiators to determine appropriate boundaries, in the light of their particular needs and subject to counter-inflation policy. My Department does not collect comprehensive information about such settlements.

Merseyside

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the present levels of unemployment on Merseyside; what action his Department is taking to reduce the numbers of unemployed in the area; and what success he has achieved.

On 8th December there were 87,202 persons unemployed in Merseyside—which represented an unemployment rate of 11·5 per cent.The area is continuing to benefit from the special measures which were introduced to help alleviate the effects of the increased unemployment brought by the recession and which are administered by my Department and the Manpower Services Commission. So far, it is estimated that these measures have assisted over 41,000 persons on Merseyside. The area will also stand to benefit from the special temporary employment programme and the youth opportunities programme which are due to come into operation in the coming months.

Food Retailing Trades

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will state the nature of his representations on the wage settlement by the Retail Food Trades Wages Council for England and Wales in excess of the Government's 10 per cent. guideline and their results; and whether the Government will include the firms which pay this money on their blacklist of firms which have failed to honour the Government's 10 per cent. guideline.

The Council was told that its proposals could not be reconciled with the guidelines and asked to reconsider them. It did so, but decided to confirm its proposals. On the second part of the Question, any employer who does no more than is necessary to comply with a wages order is fulfilling a statutory obligation and is, therefore, not in breach of the guidelines.

Television Staffs

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is aware of the practice being adopted by the BBC and independent television to increase salaries of their news reporters and others on a comparability basis; whether this falls within the Government's wage policy; and whether workers in industry will be able to use the same basis to increase their salaries.

I am not aware of any such practices. Increases on the basis of comparability would not be consistent with the pay guidelines unless they result from awards by the Central Arbitration Committee in relation to claims under Schedule 11 to the Employment Protection Act or the Fair Wages Resolution.

North-West England

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps are being taken to deal with the level of unemployment in the North-West Region, with particular reference to the Greater Manchester Area.

The North-West will continue to benefit from the special employment measures which we have introduced and which have already been of considerable assistance. So far, over 150,000 persons have been assisted in the region, including 36,000 in Greater Manchester. Further benefits, particularly for young people, should result from the youth opportunities programme and the special temporary employment programme in coming months. The whole of the region, including Greater Manchester, has assisted area status and will, therefore, stand to benefit, in the longer term, from the regional incentives available to firms expanding or moving there.

Health And Safety Executive (Travel)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many visits to countries within the EEC have been made by personnel employed by the Health and Safety Commission and its Executive; what is the total cost of such visits; and if he will make a statement.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat) on 9th January. [Vol. 941, c. 640.] Members of the Health and Safety Executive attend meetings to consider and negotiate European Community proposals dealing with occupational safety and health. The main burden of this work is concerned with EEC directives of which approximately 60 are in various stages of development. Other visits are made by experts to participate in the development of Community policy on occupational health and safety. Visits to countries within the EEC are, of course, sometimes made for purposes other than Community business, but statistics of such visits could only be obtained at disproportionate cost.

Training Boards (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will instruct the Training Services Agency to issue guidelines to the industrial training boards to enable negotiations on pay increases for training board employees to begin without further delay.

Guidelines have already been issued to ITBs both through the TSA and directly by me.

Job Creation And Safeguarding

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, pursuant to the Prime Minister's statement, Official Report, 17th January 1978, column 247, that he had been told the the Government's measures have safeguarded over 600,000 jobs, he will list the measures concerned and the number of jobs safeguarded by each.

The numbers of workers who have benefited under the Government's special employment measures since their inceptions are as follows:

Temporary employment subsidy371,100
Job release scheme21,500
Job creation programme122,200
Work experience programme44,300
Community Industry3,500
Youth employment subsidy32,200
Recruitment subsidy for school leavers30,100
Job introduction scheme145
Small firms employment subsidy3,600
628,645

Professional And Executive Recruitment

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will ask the Manpower Services Commission to establish an office of the Professional and Executive Register in Dundee.

I have been asked to reply.This is a matter for the Manpower Services Commission, which keeps the network of Professional and Executive Recruitment (PER) offices under regular review. Following a review of the current demand in Dundee and the surrounding area, the Commission has concluded that there is no need at present for a PER office in Dundee.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Human Rights

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs to what extent the Joint Declaration on Human Rights by the European Parliament, the Council and the Commission (1977) creates access to judicial proceedings enforceable against Her Majesty's Government.

The Joint Declaration on Fundamental Rights is a statement of policy which has no legal force. It concerns the activities of the three Community institutions rather than those of the member States.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs under what provisions of the Convention judges from member States which have not ratified Article 46 of the European Convention on Human Rights may sit in the European Court on cases arising against member States which do recognise the compulsory jurisdiction.

The relevant provision is in Article 38 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which provides that the European Court of Human Rights shall consist of a number of judges equal to that of the members of the Council of Europe and that no two judges may be nationals of the same State. Whether or not a State has itself accepted the compulsory jurisdiction of the Court under Article 46 is thus not a factor in its providing a judge for the Court.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many individual applications against the United Kingdom are currently lodged with the European Commission on Human Rights.

The exact number of cases lodged is known only to the Commission, where deliberations are confidential. 38 cases have been referred to Her Majesty's Government for observations and are thus known to be under active consideration by the Commission. The Commission is known to have adjourned consideration of a number of other cases, including some 300 complaints from Northern Ireland pending the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the case brought by the Government of the Republic of Ireland.

asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will briefly list the subject matter of individual applications against the United Kingdom currently lodged with the European Commission on Human Rights.

The subject matter of the 38 cases referred to Her Majesty's Government, of which I have told the hon. Member in another answer, is as follows:

  • (a) aspects of prison treatment and prison conditions;
  • (b) deportation;
  • (c) corporal punishment in schools;
  • (d) the law relating to homosexuality;
  • (e) trial procedures;
  • (f) the closed shop;
  • (g) alleged discrimination in the provision of schools;
  • (h) Mental Health Review Tribunals and conditions in Broadmoor Hospital;
  • (i) housing in Guernsey;
  • (j) the postal service;
  • (k) insurance companies legislation;
  • (l) the Incitement to Disaffection Act 1974;
  • (m) the Prevention of Terrorism (Temporary Provision Act 1975);
  • (n) vaccination of Children.
  • A number of adjourned cases concern detention and internment in Northern Ireland and also immigration.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the cost to Her Majesty's Government in the latest 12 months for which figures are available of dealing with individual applications against the United Kingdom lodged with the European Commission on Human Rights.

    I regret that I cannot give an immediate answer to this Question, which requires consultation with other Departments. I shall arrange for the information requested to be published in the Official Report as soon as it is available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs by what mechanism it is intended that breaches of the United Nations Covenant of Civil and Political Rights shall be enforceable in the event of a complaint against the United Kingdom being upheld by the Human Rights Committee.

    It is the policy of Her Majesty's Government to support and assist the work of the Human Rights Committee, in keeping with its international obligations. Article 41 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights sets out the procedure for handling complaints by States The United Kingdom has formally accepted this article, which, however, is not yet in force.

    Civil And Political Rights

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is his policy towards the Resolution of the European Parliament on the granting of special rights to the citizens of the European Community and the proposal that the uniform application of civil and political rights can be ensured by the intervention of the Court of Justice of the European Communities.

    In accordance with the communiqué of the Community Heads of Government meeting in Paris in December 1974, the possibility of granting EEC nationals residing in other member States certain special rights has been under study by a working group of the Council of Ministers. The Assembly's resolution was drected to the Commission but the Council working group is taking it into consideration. The problems are complex and the Government will await the conclusion of the study before forming a view on the matter as a whole.

    Hong Kong

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (1) how many of the persons arrested by the Hong Kong Special Branch between 15th November 1976 and 15th December 1976 were ultimately expelled from the country; and on what grounds;(2) how many of the persons taken into custody by the Hong Kong Special Branch between 15th November 1976 and 15th December 1976 were Government employees.

    Environment

    Development Commission

    40.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he next intends to meet the Chairman of the Development Commission.

    My right hon. Friend met Lord Northfield and the other development commissioners last week on 18th January. He has no immediate plans to do so again.

    Mortgages

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what measures he is taking to ensure that the major share of new mortgages is directed to inner city areas and, in particular to housing action areas as more mortgages become available with the current credit relations.

    Building societies have increased their lending on pre-1919 properties from 19 per cent. to 23 per cent. between 1975 and 1977. I have made it clear that I hope to see even more lending on older properties, and to those on lower incomes, in their normal course of business. The building societies have agreed to lend £267 million in the support scheme in 1978–79—nearly twice as much as in 1977–78. Local authorities in the inner areas have been allocated resources in their housing investment programmes for home loans, according to needs. Authorities are asked to give priority in their direct and support lending to those in urgent housing need, including those in housing action areas.

    Housing Finance

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why investment in new towns and the Scottish Special Housing Association is planned to increase by only £4 million in the next four years; and if he will devote part of the North Sea oil revenues and other Government resources to increasing these programmes.

    The planned expenditure on housing in the new towns and by the Scottish Special Housing Association should be sufficient to enable them to meet the targets to which they are now working.

    Thermal Insulation (Cavity Walls)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied that sufficient resources exist for insulation of buildings by way of cavity infill; and whether the money expended on publicity schemes for its promotion has been justified in view of the limitation of supply.

    Yes. I am assured that there is sufficient capacity in the industry to meet any likely level of demand. I do not know of any general limitation of supply that would nullify the effect of the resources expended on its promotion.

    Property Services Agency

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has to institute an annual report from the Property Services Agency; and whether his Department is prepared to defray the cost of such a report.

    The Property Services Agency will in future prepare and publish annual reports on its work starting with the financial year 1977–78; the cost of preparing the reports will be met in the normal way as part of the Agency's administrative expenses.

    Rating Yield

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the yield of industrial and commercial rating in England and Wales.

    Direct Labour

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects his working party on direct labour building to report; whether it has completed its proposals regarding accounting, charging and tendering arrangements, pursuant to the hon. Member for Durham, North-West (Mr. Armstrong's) reply on 24th January 1977; and whether he will publish it.

    The departmental working party has completed its consideration of accounting, charging and tendering arrangements in relation to new works, but not to repair and maintenance. My right hon. Friend expects the working party's final report to reach him by the early summer and will set out his response in a consultation document which he will ensure receives a wide circulation.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether any local authorities have received loan sanction since 7th April 1977 to build dwellings for sale by direct labour; and, if so, whether he will name the scheme in each case, the gross tender price and the number of dwellings involved;(2) whether he will list the local authorities which have received loan sanction to build dwellings by direct labour since 7th April 1977, naming the scheme in each case, the gross tender price and the number of dwellings involved.

    Local AuthorityName of SchemeTender PriceNumber of Dwellings
    DurhamUshaw Avenue, Sherburn.19,4506
    Brandon61,9915
    Central Avenue/Dorlonco Villas9,2311
    Magdelene Street11,8591
    Central Avenue17,8572
    SunderlandGeorge Street298,64328
    Hall Farm, Phase III1,241,484132
    EasingtonWheatley Hill, Phase I1,105,854116
    MiddlesboroughMarton Grove, Phase A and E149,98618
    WansbeckPioneer Terrace165,89815
    GatesheadJames Street549,34652
    William Pitt, Phase I938,91091
    DerwentsidePonthead332,94430
    Kingston upon HullBrunswick, Stage IV1,000,806138
    Victor Street/Arundel Street, Phase II529,92876
    Bramsholme Part II1,101,506159
    Bramboline Area 2714,20293
    SheffieldShiregreen Lane36,5947
    LincolnSt. Nicholas Street20,1932
    Little Bayale463,01057
    Croft Street251,15029
    Baggeholme Road40,6545
    Limpley Street, Redevelopment231,06728
    North East DerbyshireQueensway75,7368
    BostonDuke Street, Phase IV45,7826
    King Street, Phase II22,6313
    St. EdmondsburyPoplar Close107,59912
    HarlowManor House544,11949
    Hull Grove1,711,172164
    ColchesterForest Road785,42379
    BasildonNorthlands 44,842,310421
    GreenwichPlumstead High Street, Phase II959,53762
    Maryon Road2,363,624178
    HackneyAmhurst Park519,95328
    LambethHainthorpe Road754,77941
    Auckland Hill455,00011
    NewhamPrince of Wales Road, Phase I2,028,917151
    Waltham ForestCathall Road, Norman Road740,90963
    ReadingMedway, Church End Lane102,68012
    BirminghamMerritts Brook Lane45,9484
    SandwellBrook Road, Oldbury34,5023
    RugbyOliver Street499,22245
    RugbyBlockall Phase II632,96751
    Blackburn.Redlam Brow, Redevelopment209,97618
    Anvil Street, Phase IV557,69557
    Anvil Street, Phase IA302,05038
    ManchesterGrove Street1,472,388150

    asked the Secretary of States for the Environment how many operatives and professional, clerical and administrative staff were employed in local authority direct labour building departments in October 1977 on (a) new housing, (b) other new work, (c) housing repairs and maintenance and (d) non-housing repairs and maintenance.

    The information available to the Departments up to the end of December 1977 follows. None of the schemes listed contained dwelling for sale.

    OPERATIVES EMPLOYED BY LOCAL AUTHORITIES ON CONSTRUCTION WORK
    Great Britain, October 1977No.
    New work: housing11,225
    non-housing11,260
    Repairs and maintenance: housing73,993
    non-housing69,102
    All operatives165,580
    Local authorities employed 85,506 administrative, professional, technical and clerical staff on the design, management and control of construction work which may be carried out either by direct labour or by contractors.

    Langdon, Dawlish (Public Inquiry)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) to whom, and at what address, organisations and members of the public should write indicating that they wish to give evidence or question witnesses at the non-statutory public inquiry into the proposed sub-regional security unit at Langdon near Dawlish; and whether he will arrange for a copy of the proposals which are the subject of the inquiry to be available to the public at the offices of Dawlish Town Council;(2) whether he will ensure that the public inquiry into the proposed sub-regional security unit at Langdon, near Dawlish, does not take place during the holiday season, June to September, inclusive, in order that all witnesses are able to attend; and when he expects to be able to announce the date and location of the inquiry.

    Organisations and members of the public wishing to give evidence may write to the Regional Controller (Housing and Planning), Department of the Environment, Froomsgate House, Ruper Street, Bristol, BS1 2QN. The Teignbridge District Council will be asked to secure adequate publicity for the proposals and to ensure that a copy of the notice of proposed development will be made available for public inspection at the offices of Dawlish Town Council. The conduct of the inquiry proceedings is the responsibility of the inspector.Arrangements for the inquiry will be discussed with the health authority and the Teignbridge District Council very shortly and the effect of the holiday season will be borne in mind. Details of time and place will be announced as soon as possible.

    Housing (One-Parent Families)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to publish the leaflet referred to in paragraph 8 of Circular 78/77 setting out the main sources of help for one-parent families in relation to housing difficulties.

    My right hon. Friend intends to send a draft of the leaflet in the near future to the local authority associations and to other interested organisations for comment, prior to publication.

    Containers

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the recent United States moves to impose deposits on all beverage containers, if he will investigate the desirability of introducing legislation to seek to ensure greater reuse of containers in the United Kingdom.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the Written Answers I gave my hon. Friend the Member for Stockport, North (Mr Bennett) on 16th January—[Vol. 942, c. 50]—and to the hon. Member for Brentwood and Ongar (Mr. McCrindle) on 20th January.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report the Waste Management Advisory Council's findings in respect of benefits in economic and environmental terms obtained from increased use of returnable containers.

    We hope to publish the results of the study, but not necessarily in the Official Report.

    National House Building Council

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he remains satisfied that the National House Building Council provides a worthwhile service to the consumer;(2) how many complaints his Department has received regarding the National House Building. Council;(3) if he will investigate the National House Building Council's practice of keeping in full membership builders who have had multiple complaints made against them.

    The Department received approximately 40 complaints regarding the National House Building Council last year. This must be set against the background of some 1½ million houses covered by its protection schemes. We are satisfied that the council takes its responsibilities for consumer protection extremely seriously, though I am sure it would equally accept that improvement to such a service is always possible.It is not the council's practice to keep in membership builders who have either had serious and substantiated complaints made against them or whom the council have found to be seriously deficient in their standards from its own inspections. Last year, over 50 builders were struck off the register, in addition to those disciplined in other ways.

    Caravans

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what estimate he has made of the number of holiday caravans on licensed sites in the United Kingdom.

    We have made no such estimate, but the National Caravan Council has estimated that there are approximately 245,000 static holiday caravans on licensed sites in the United Kingdom.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many licensed sites for holiday caravans exist in the United Kingdom.

    This information is not available centrally. The licensing of caravan sites is carried out by local authorities, which keep registers of the licences issued in their areas. However, the National Caravan Council has estimated that in 1977 there were approximately 5,000 licensed static holiday caravan sites in the United Kingdom with six or more pitches.

    Road Signs (Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his estimate of the cost to the Government of new road signs throughout Great Britain during the last 10 years; and what is his estimate of the cost during the next 10 years.

    I have been asked to reply.I regret that it is not practicable to make a reliable estimate of either figure.

    Breathalyser Tests

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will initiate a study of the effect of the law relating to the breathalyser on the incidence of cases of failing to stop after accidents involving injury to the person or damage to other motor vehicles with a view to reducing the incidence of such conduct.

    I have been asked to reply. No. We do not think such a study would provide information that would help to reduce the incidence of failing to stop after an accident.

    Road Signs (Metrication)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if the estimated cost of between £7½ million and £8½ million of changing road signs throughout Great Britain from miles to kilometres includes the cost of the re-erection of the signs.

    Council House Tenants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what latest estimate he has made of the number of council house tenants who have been living in the same house for 20 years or more; and what percentage this is of all council house tenants.

    In 1976, approximately 0·9 million council tenants in England had been living in the same dwelling for more than 20 years. This represents nearly 20 per cent. of all council tenants.

    Unemployed Persons

    asked the Prime Minister if, pursuant to his reply, Official Report, 17th January 1978, columns 247 and 248, he has yet checked the accuracy of the Department of Employment's statistics concerning unemployment quoted by the right hon. Lady the Leader of the Opposition; and what conclusion he has reached.

    I have looked at the answer given on 17th January. I note that the hon. Member for Blaby (Mr. Lawson) asked about only four other selected countries. If he had extended his Question to include all OECD countries, the answer would have shown that Canada, Belgium, Denmark and Ireland have higher rates of unemployment than this country. I should add that in the case of the countries other than the United States quoted by the hon. Member for Blaby the statistics used are approximate indicators of unemployment using US concepts.

    Northern Ireland

    Rating Yield

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the yield of commercial and industrial rating in Ulster.

    The yields of commercial and industrial rates collected in Northern Ireland in 1976–77 were £38,350,000 and £3,600,000 respectively. The corresponding amounts to be collected in 1977–78 are estimated to be £44,350,000 and £3,900,000.

    Limavady Grammar School

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he expects to announce the names of the Department of Education nominees to the Management Committee of Limavady Grammar School.

    The Department of Education for Northern Ireland has invited four persons to act as its nominees on the management committee of Limavady Grammar School, but replies have not yet been received from all of them. The nominations will be notified to the Western Education and Library Board as soon as all the replies are received.

    Dogs

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will detail the responsibilities of the Royal Ulster Constabulary in regard to stray dogs.

    Belvoir Park Forest

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if a road is planned to link the dual carriage at Shaws Bridge, Milltown, and Annadale Embankment in South Belfast, which will necessitate reduction in the size of Belvoir Park Forest.

    No, but the Department is continuing to protect the route for the south-east approach route or M4 between the Annadale Embankment and the Sainfield Road in the vicinity of Grahamholm. This scheme, which is not planned to start before 1986, will involve some reduction in the size of Belvoir Park Forest, but every effort will be made to minimise the effect.

    Accident Reports

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the responsibility of the Royal Ulster Constabullary in the provision of reports of accidents; to whom the reports are available; and if a fee is chargeable.

    Housing Executive

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether the second Department of the Civil Service report on the Housing Executive is now available.

    Housing Council

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will detail any changes now being considered in the make-up, powers and rôle of the Housing Council.

    There are no plans at present to alter the functions or constitution of the Housing Council.

    Grammar Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Nothern Ireland how many grammar schools in Northern Ireland do not as yet have a full membership appointed to their management committees; and in how many cases the Department of Education and Science nominees have not been named.

    Department of Education for Northern Ireland nominations are outstanding for 12 grammar schools, including casual vacancies. All are in the process of being filled. Full information on the membership of management committees of grammar schools is not kept by the Department. The latest returns from voluntary grammar schools relate to January 1977, when all voluntary grammar school management committees had a full membership apart from casual vacancies.

    Energy

    Conservation ("Save It" Appeal)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy how much money has been spent to date on the "Save It" campaign; and what has been the actual or estimated energy saving during the same period.

    The "Save It" campaign was launched on 20th January 1975. Approximately £7·7 million has been spent so far on all forms of publicity.Energy savings, as a result of the Government's energy conservation programme including the influence of energy prices, have been estimated to be about 6 per cent. in both 1975 and 1976, but the margins of error are very wide. Final estimates of energy consumption during 1977 and the level of savings achieved are not yet available.On the basis of interim estimates, existing policies are believed to have contributed to energy savings worth approximately £1,800 million in 1976 cost terms during the period of the "Save It" campaign.

    Research

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether, in furtherance of his previous Written reply, he will finance investigations into the economics of exploiting energy sources by universities and polytechnics; and, in this connection, if he will ask the University College of London, Professor David Henderson, the Open University, Dr. Peter Chapman, and the South Bank Polytechnic, London, Mr. Colin Sweet, to make these further studies.

    A great deal of research on the economics of energy sources is already taking place within Government Departments and laboratories, in the energy industries and in the universities and polytechnics. Much of the university and polytechnic research is financed directly from Government funds or by the Research Councils, and both the Science and Social Science Research Councils have made special arangements for the encouragement, co-ordination and financing of energy research. The studies proposed by my hon. Friend are extremely wide-ranging and would be likely to duplicate research already in progress elsewhere. It would, therefore, be inappropriate for the Government to commission a special study of the kind proposed or to identify particular individual research workers who already have access to the existing machinery.

    British National Oil Corporation (Ships)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list, according to tonnage, originating shipyard of construction, port of registry and name, all ships currently owned by or on charter to the British National Oil Corporation.

    This is a matter for the Corporation, but I will ask the Chairman to write to the hon. Member.

    Solar Heating

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on his intentions about giving grants for domestic solar water heating installations.

    I have nothing to add to the answer given on 1st December to the hon. Member for Carshalton (Mr. Forman) [Vol. 940, c. 296–7].

    Celtic Sea Oil And Gas

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he has received any applications from any Japanese companies proposing to develop the oil or gas resources in the Celtic Sea; and, if so, what was his response to such approaches.

    Coal

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what were the reasons for the failure of the Council of Energy Ministers to achieve agreement on the Commission's proposals to finance cyclical stocks of coal and promotion of coal in electricity generators.

    The inability so far to reconcile the different interests of member States as consumers and/or producers of coal. Thus, some members do not regard finance for cyclical stocks as an appropriate way of aiding Community coal, and there are differences of view on the need for a scheme to promote the construction of more coal-burning capacity in power stations and on its possible provisions. However, discussions are to continue, and we shall maintain our advocacy of these and other suitable ways of supporting the Community coal industry.

    Plutonium

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) what discussions have taken place with the Health and Safety Commission about conveyance by air of plutonium oxide fuel;(2) what is the comparative cost advantage of transporting plutonium oxide fuel by air as compared with rail or road;(3) which airports in the United Kingdom have special facilities for the handling of plutonium oxide fuel;(4) what special safeguards are required when plutonium oxide fuel is transported by air within the United Kingdom;(5) what discussions have taken place about the conveyance of plutonium oxide fuel by air;(6) what quantities of plutonium oxide fuel have been transported by air from Carlisle to Wick in the past 12 months.

    During the past fortnight, four consignments of fuel made from uranium and plutonium oxide have been moved by air from Carlisle to Wick. The material is in the form of fuel elements for the AEA's PFR at Dounreay which have been fabricated at the Windscale works in Cumbria. These are the first consignments of this fuel to be transported by air. The overall costs to BNFL of transport by rail, road or air are very similar.No special airport facilities are required for moving such fuel, as the containers are trans-shipped direct from road transport to the aircraft. There have been no specific discussions with the Health and Safety Commission about these consignments, but all movements are, of course, carried out under the strict national and international safety regulations governing the transport of radioactive materials. Arrangements for these, as for all movements of nuclear fuel, are made in consultation with the appropriate governmental agencies—in the United Kingdom, primarily the Department of Transport. The local police and airport authorities were also kept informed.

    Scotland

    Judges (Political Activities)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) whether, following the debate on 6th December, he will take steps to clarify what political activities a judge can or cannot indulge in;(2) whether, following the debate on 6th December, he will make clear to all sheriffs in Scotland that any political remarks or activities, no matter how impartial, will be considered a breach of duty.

    Council House Tenants

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the number of council house tenants who have been living in the same house for 20 years or more; and what percentage this is of all council house tenants.

    The General Household Survey 1976, which used a total sample of 2,353 households in Scotland, showed that about three out of 20 tenants of public authorities had lived at the same address for 21 years or more.

    Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his latest estimate of the number of unemployed teachers in Scotland; and what is his latest estimate of the number of persons qualified as teachers now working but not as teachers.

    In Scotland at 8th December 1977, 1,115 people were registered by the Department of Employment as unemployed and seeking work as teachers. Information on the number of persons qualified as teachers now working in other occupations is not available.

    Hampden Park

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what financial grant he is prepared to give to the latest scheme approved by the local authorities and football authorities towards substantial improvements to Hampden Park.

    At my right hon. Friend's request the Scottish Sports Council has been considering the future of Hampden Park with the local authorities and football bodies concerned through the National Stadium Committee. The Council has, therefore, sought details of a project for an £8 million development at Hampden which has been proposed by Strathclyde Regional Council. When these details are available my right hon. Friend will be prepared to consider the proposal.

    Rating Yields

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the yield of commercial and industrial rating in Scotland.

    The estimated yields of commercial and industrial rates in Scotland in 1977–78 are £147 million and £67 million respectively.

    Wales

    Road Signs

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales by what proportion the cost of a bilingual road sign is greater than the cost of an unilingual road sign.

    This will vary, depending on the increase in the size of the sign; but experience on trunk road signs suggests that costs could, on average, be increased by about 75 per cent.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the total cost of new road signs in Wales during the last 10 years; and what proportion of this he attributes to bilingualism.

    Figures are not available. A test check has suggested that the addition of a second language to a trunk road sign can be expected, on average, to increase costs by about 75 per cent.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much of the £17 million cost of bilingual signs in Wales will have been spent in each of the eight Welsh counties responsible.

    A precise breakdown by counties could not be provided without disproportionate cost.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much of the £17 million cost of bilingual road signs in Wales was spent in each of the years since 1972.

    Information about trunk roads is not available for the years 1972–73 and 1973–74. For the subsequent years the cost of fabrication and erection of bilingual signs is roughly as follows:

    1974–75£140,000
    1975–76£60,000
    1976–77£20,000
    1977–78 (to 23.1.78)£810,000
    No figures are available for county roads.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales, of the £17 million cost of bilingual road signs in Wales what is the share of the local councils.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if the work of manufacturing road signs for Welsh roads is given to firms in Wales.

    Contracts for new trunk roads normally provide for the supply and installation of road signs as part of the scheme, and it is for the contractor to select his sources of supply. All other roads in Wales are the responsibility of county councils, all but one of which have their own workshops for the manufacture of road signs. As county councils are the agent authorities for the maintenance of trunk roads they will generally also be the suppliers of new and replacement signs required for existing trunk roads.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales, of the £1,030,000 spent on bilingual road signs since June 1974, how much was due to their being bilingual.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if the road signs used in Wales are made in Wales.

    Many road signs used in Wales are made in Wales but signs are also obtained from suppliers outside Wales.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proportion of the road signs worth £1,030,000 erected by the Government in Wales since June 1974 was made in Wales.

    Roads

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proportion of Welsh roads is the responsibility of his Department; and for what proportion the local councils are responsible.

    Colwyn Bay

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) whether he will recommend the granting of at least temporary special development area status to the whole of the Colwyn borough area in order to offset the unemployment that will result from the demolition of certain industrial buildings and to avoid the relocation of those industries outside the borough area, during the period of construction of the proposed North Wales Expressway;(2) whether, in view of his decision with regard to the route of the proposed North Wales Expressway and the consequent damage to tourism in Colwyn Bay during the period of its construction, he will take steps to ensure that tourist grants are made available to hoteliers and boarding-house keepers in the town through the agency of the Wales Tourist Board to the same extent as they are available within those parts of Wales that enjoy special development area status;

    (3) what advice and guidance he proposes to give to the Welsh Development Agency and to the Land Authority for Wales with a view to assisting Colwyn Bay to counter the exceptionally disadvantageous economic effects that will result, at least in the short term, from the construction of the proposed North Wales Expressway through the town;

    (4) whether he will give urgent special consideration to the allocation of additional housing finance in order to provide for the needs of those residents of Colwyn Bay, currently estimated to be about 500 in number, who will be made homeless by the destruction of dwellings within a very short period once the construction of the proposed North Wales Expressway has been commenced through the town;

    (5) whether, in order to relieve traffic congestion in Colwyn Bay during the period of construction of the proposed North Wales Expressway through the town, he will give urgent and favourable consideration to the upgrading in the near future of the B5381 highway which runs to the south of the town;

    (6) what steps he proposes to take to offset, and compensate for, the loss of rateable value to the Colwyn Borough Council, estimated to be at least £100,000, that will result from the construction of the proposed North Wales Expressway.

    I am at present considering a letter from the Colwyn Borough Council about these matters, and I will write to the hon. and learned Member as soon as possible.

    Ministry Of Defence Staff (Cardiff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give an assurance that the full cost of providing educational facilities for the children of Ministry of Defence staff transferred to Cardiff will be met from central Government funds.

    Local authorities are responsible for providing education and related services, their expenditure falling to be supported through the rate support grant in the normal way.

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give an assurance that all costs arising from the need to house Ministry of Defence staff transferred from London to Cardiff will be met directly from central Government funds and that no housing authority in Wales will suffer financially as a result of increased expenditure on housing Ministry of Defence staff.

    So far as any additional housing demand arising from dispersal, or any other exceptional cause, falls to be met by the local authority, the demand should be reflected in that authority's housing investment programme, and will be taken into account by the Welsh Office in making allocations for housing finance, to which the normal accounting and subsidy rules will apply.

    Tan-Yr-Unto Corner

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he is now in a position to announce a precise date for his decision regarding possible road improvements at Tan-yr-Unto corner, Llanbedr DC, Ruthin, Clwyd, based upon a feasibility study currently being carried out by the Clwyd County Council.

    A preliminary report has been received from the county council and is being examined, but a decision on the scheme to be adopted must await the completion of the council's investigations.

    A48-St Mellons (Link Road)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what will be the estimated cost of the link road from the A48 trunk road to the proposed Ministry of Defence site in St. Mellons, Cardiff; and if he will give an assurance that the full cost of the link road will be met from central Government funds.

    These are matters for Cardiff City Council and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment to consider.

    Employment (Cardiff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many new industrial jobs he estimates will arise in the Cardiff area between the present and 1980; and what provisions have been made for alternative employment to offset the loss of 4,600 job opportunities at East Moors Steelworks, Cardiff.

    Approximately 1,600 manufacturing jobs are at present expected to arise in the Cardiff area by 1981. Local authorities, the Welsh Development Agency, Government Departments and other agencies are continuing their efforts to provide additional employment in the area.

    Departmental Banking

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

    The Welsh Office uses the private banking system only for the acceptance, and transmission to the Bank of England, of receipts for the credit of the Department's accounts with the Paymaster-General. Quotations from local banks were last sought for this service in June 1976.

    Roads (Mid-Wales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he has any plans to build a dual carriageway in Mid-Wales during the next five years and if he will make a statement.

    Work recently started on the construction of the Brecon southern and eastern bypass, much of which will be dual carriageway. Other trunk road schemes firmly programmed or in the preparation pool which include lengths of dual carriageway are:

    • A470 Llanidloes bypass
    • A470 Dolgellau bypass
    • A483 Welshpool relief roads
    Traffic needs on trunk roads in Mid-Wales can be met generally by the provision of good standard single carriageway roads.

    Sheep Scab

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many cases of sheep scab there were in Wales in 1977, and what were the corresponding figures for 1975 and 1976 and if he will make a statement.

    There were three cases of sheep scab in Wales during 1977, two in 1975 and none in 1976. We are determined to eradicate this disease. The situation following last autumn's national dipping is being assessed and proposals for 1978 will be announced shortly.

    Newport (Redevelopment Plan)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will now announce his decision following the public inquiry one year ago into the compulsory purchase order for stages 4A, 7 and 8 of the Newport Borough Council's (Pillgwenlly) redevelopment plan.

    Letters announcing my decision were issued to the council, to objectors and to other interested parties, on Thursday 19th January.

    Agriculture (Apprentices)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many apprentices have entered the agriculture industry in Wales in 1974, 1975, 1976 and 1977, respectively; and how much Government money has been spent on their training in each of those years.

    I am informed by the Agricultural Training Board that the numbers of people entering its apprenticeship scheme in Wales in the years (April-March) specified below were as follows:

    1973–74102
    1974–75240
    1975–76227
    1976–77212
    The amount of Government money spent by the Agricultural Training Board and by local education authorities in each of those years on training these apprentices cannot readily be identified.

    Defence

    Missiles

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what development is taking place in the British aerospace industry on a medium-range missile, similar to the Cruise, apart from the BAC £10,000 research;(2) if the British aerospace industry and Government research establishments have the capability of developing components for a medium-range missile of the Cruise type; and whether it is proposed to develop such a capability;(3) what research and development is taking place in the British aerospace industry in co-operation with France for components for a medium-range missile similar to the Cruise.

    Contracts have been placed with British Aerospace and a number of other firms for further limited studies. Much of the relevant technology is available within the United Kingdom, although no development is taking place or currently planned. I am not aware of any co-operative work being undertaken between British and French industry on any aspects of cruise missiles.

    Armed And Civilian Personnel (Ratio)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the ratio of civil servants and civilian workers in his Department to members of Her Majesty's Armed Forces; and how this compares with the ratios of other North Atlantic Treaty Organisation member States.

    The number of civilians employed in the Ministry of Defence on 1st December 1977 was 296,200, including some 23,100 in the Royal ordnance factories. The number of Service personnel at that date was 333,700.A straight comparison with figures for other North Atlantic Treaty Organisation member States would not be meaningful because practices vary for a number of reasons, including the existence of compulsory military service.

    Civilian Employees

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many people are currently employed in Civil Service and civilian work in his Department; and if he has any plans to reduce these numbers.

    The total number of civilians employed in the Ministry of Defence on 1st December 1977 was 296,200, including some 23,100 in the Royal ordnance factories. The total will reduce by April 1979 as a result of the defence review and subsequent expenditure reviews.

    Departmental Banking

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

    The Ministry of Defence has never put its banking business out to competitive tender. It utilises the services of the Paymaster-General's Office for most of its banking business, but where commercial facilities are needed a suitably located branch of one of the banks on the Treasury approved list is used. Convenience and cost-effectiveness are the prime considerations.

    Equipment Sales

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish the latest figure for sales abroad of defence equipment in the current financial year.

    The latest forecast of total overseas sales of defence equipment by United Kingdom suppliers for the current financial year is £830 million at current prices.

    Departmental Staff (Dispersal)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if a firm decision has yet been taken on the exact number of posts in his Department to be transferred to Cardiff; and, if not, what are the latest estimates.

    No firm decision has yet been taken on the exact number, but the current estimate of the number of posts to be transferred to Cardiff is about 4,250 and planning is going ahead on this basis.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if it is envisaged that the staffing levels of those offices of his Department in London due for dispersal to Cardiff and Glasgow will decrease over the next 10 years; and, if so, by how much.

    It is not possible to estimate changes so far ahead, but as part of management policy all parts of the MOD are scrutinised for economies on a continuing basis.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many staff are currently employed in those offices of his Department in London due for dispersal to Cardiff and Glasgow.

    :About 4,500 staff are currently employed in the blocks of work due for dispersal to Cardiff. Correspond ing figures for Glasgow cannot be provided at this stage because final decisions have yet to be taken about the composition of the Glasgow dispersal package.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what number of posts in his Department being transferred to Cardiff are filled by staff deemed essential transferees.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will initiate a survey of the attitudes of staff in his Department in London towards the Welsh language and culture; and if he will give an assurance that staff who are antagonistic towards the teaching of Welsh in Cardiff schools will not be transferred to the proposed new offices in Cardiff.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will initiate a survey, and publish the findings, of the number of staff in the London offices of his Department who are willing or unwilling to be transferred to the proposed new offices at (a) Cardiff and (b) Glasgow.

    Staff attitude surveys regarding dispersal to Cardiff and Glasgow are planned in consultation with MOD Staff Side representatives who will be informed of the findings.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if his Department has requested Cardiff City Council to allocate permanent council dwellings for transferred staff coming to Cardiff; and, if so, how many;(2) how many temporary council dwellings have been requested by his Department for transferring staff to Cardiff.

    No firm requests have been made to Cardiff City Council but discussions about housing have taken place with officials.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if his Department has prepared an updated estimate of the outlay cost of transferring Civil Service posts from London to outlying areas on a similar basis to the estimates in the 1973 Hardman Report on Civil Service Dispersal; if so, if any adjustments have been made so that the estimates relate specifically to the transfer of staff of his Department; and, if not, if he will prepare such an estimate.

    Estimates are being prepared of the costs to the MOD of dispersal to Cardiff and Glasgow but they must be provisional because we are still at the planning stage.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if approaches have been made by his Department for mortgage facilities to be arranged with Cardiff City Council for staff in his Department transferred to the proposed new offices in Cardiff; and what response has been forthcoming.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many non-clerical posts in his Department are being transferred from London to Cardiff; and how many of such posts he anticipates will be filled by local people.

    Excluding administrative, technical and clerical grades, about 500 other jobs will be transferred to St. Mel-ions, Cardiff, including posts for data processors, typists, messengers, security guards, photoprinters and drivers all of whom will be recruited locally.In addition, there will be opportunities before any moves to Cardiff take place for suitably qualified staff in the Cardiff area to apply for jobs in executive and technical group grades which are recruited on a national basis and to opt to serve initially in the Cardiff area.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if the phased withdrawal of staff from the offices in London of his Department has been arranged in such a way as to ensure that premises falling vacant upon transfer will be swiftly available for alternative use;(2) if firm plans have yet been made to utilise the office premises and associated facilities that will fall vacant upon the transfer of staff of his Department from London to Cardiff and Glasgow.

    I have been asked to reply.The offices referred to form part of the Government's "common user" London estate managed by the Property Services Agency. No detailed plans for space released by MOD have yet been decided, but the PSA is currently examining the options for rationalising the London estate as dispersal takes place with the objective of reusing or disposing of vacated buildings to the best advantage at the earliest opportunity.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what costs have been incurred so far in preparing and developing the site of the new offices for his Department at St. Mellons, Cardiff; and what estimates have been made of the final costs, after landscaping, of establishing the new offices and associated facilities there.

    I have been asked to reply.To date, £8,130 has been spent on soil investigation of the site. We expect to acquire the site soon and invite tenders for preliminary site works. Reliable cost estimates for the buildings cannot be given until further design work has been completed.

    Trade

    European Community (Common Fund)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he anticipates conceding in any future talks on the Common Fund that the fund might have to be used for measures other than butter stocks; and if he will make a statement.

    It is too early to say, in advance of further discussion with other developed and developing countries, how this issue will be dealt with in resumed negotiations on the fund. The countries of Group B have made it clear that their minds are not closed on the issue; and that they would be prepared to consider a role for the Fund in respect of such measures in the context of agreement on its wider objectives and modalities.

    Air Fares (London—Glasgow)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will publish a table of prices charged for first-class one-way fares on normal commercial flights between London Heathrow and Glasgow at 1st April in each of the years 1970 to 1977, respectively, showing the percentage increase between one year and the next.

    First class one-way fares London (Heathrow)—Glasgow:

    DateFarePercentage change over previous year (approximate)
    £
    1st April 197015·00
    1st April 197116·5010
    1st April 197218·2010
    1st April 197319·055
    1st April 197422·9020
    1st April 1975*28·5024
    1st April 1976*35·0023
    1st April 1977*43·0023
    * The fares shown are those approved by the Civil Aviation Authority.
    Since 12th January 1975 the London (Heathrow)—Glasgow service has been one class only, listed as "Economy", being a shuttle operation.

    Engineering And Construction Contracts

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what representations he has received from civil engineering consultants and construction companies about difficulties in securing adequate bonding facilities for work overseas; and whether he has plans to remedy the problems arising from financial guarantees being linked to speculative tenders rather than secured contracts and to assets rather than trading record.

    The Export Credits Guarantee Department is in regular contact with both civil engineering consultants and construction companies in connection with the provision of tender and performance bonds for export contracts. In deciding the level of support to be given for tender bonds, due account is taken of a contractor's trading record and of the fact that since only a proportion of his tenders will be successful his total bonding commitment is not restricted solely by reference to his asset base.

    Export Credits (Banks)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the total amount of refinancing provided by the Export Credits Guarantee Department for fixed-rate sterling credits by the clearing banks for periods of two years or more at 1st April 1977; and what is his estimate for 1st April 1978.

    At 1st April 1977 the total amount of refinancing provided to the clearing banks by the Export Credits Guarantee Department for fixed-rate sterling export credits for periods of two years or more was £2,134 million. I estimate that the comparable figure at 1st April 1978 will be £2,003 million.

    Education And Science

    University And Higher Education Teachers (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science in what manner she intends to respond to the recently moderated claim by the Association of University Teachers for the settlement of its recognised pay anomaly.

    I refer the hon. Member to the second paragraph of the answer given by my right hon. Friend to Questions from the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Mr. Winterton) and Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat) on 16th January.—[Vol. 942, c. 61.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what plans she has to rectify the university teachers' pay anomaly by offering an increase in the current year of less than 10 per cent. to other teachers of higher education.

    Pay settlements for teachers in institutions of further education maintained by local education authorities are negotiated not by my right hon. Friend but by the Burnham Further Education Committee.

    Museums And Galleries

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will specify the total amounts covered by certificates of indemnity issued by the national museums and galleries in the United Kingdom in respect of loans to them of works of art and other objects over the past 10 years from 1967 to 1977 inclusive, broken down into the individual years and divided in each year between (a) long-term loans to the permanent collections, and (b) loans to temporary exhibitions.

    Complete information could not be produced except at disproportionate cost. An indication of the amount covered by indemnities issued by the national museums and galleries in England is given below. Figures in (a) are those reported in the Estimates, since 1970–71, by institutions having long term loans totalling over £500,000. The provision of information for institutions in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland is a matter for the appropriate Secretaries of State.

    (a)(b)
    Financial yearLong term loans to permanent collectionsLoans to temporary exhibitions
    ££
    1976–7716,950,00019,196,319
    1975–7612,650,00014,465,233
    1974–759,250,00029,700,620
    1973–747,300,0004,564,845
    1972–738,185,92716,595,000
    1971–728,500,0003,721,568
    1970–715,500,0005,581,875

    Direct Grant Schools

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will make a statement on her policy on direct grant schools.

    My right hon. Friend's policy is to complete the phasing out of direct grant grammar schools, under the Direct Grant Grammar Schools (Cessation of Grant) Regulations 1975, and with it the ending of this form of selection for secondary education.

    Redbourn School

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will now announce her decision on the Section 13 application by Hertfordshire County Council to develop Redbourn School, Redbourn, into all-ability; and whether she will make a statement.

    My Department wrote to Hertfordshire Education Authority on 20th January 1978 to say that the Secretary of State had approved the Section 13 proposal for Redbourn School.

    University And Higher Education Students (Scotland)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many students attended universities in Scotland for each year from 1960 to 1978; and what percentage of the total number of students at British universities these figures represent.

    Following is the information:

    FULL-TIME AND SANDWICH COURSE STUDENTS AT UNIVERSITIES IN SCOTLAND
    Academic yearNumberAs percentage of total number at universities in Great Britain
    1960–6118,52917·2
    1961–6219,43317·2
    1962–6320,57317·3
    1963–6421,92117·3
    1964–6525,28318·2
    1965–6628,11716·7
    1966–6729,74816·1
    1967–6832,09216·1
    1968–6933,80916·0
    1969–7035,19916·1
    1970–7136,57916·0
    1971–7237,80416·1
    1972–7338,36716·0
    1973–7438,95316·0
    1974–7539,74415·9
    1975–7640,54815·5
    1976–7741,63515·3
    1977–78*41,59214·8
    *Provisional.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether a higher percentage of young persons resident in Scotland receive a university or equivalent higher education than elsewhere in the United Kingdom; and what are the respective percentages.

    In 1976–77, Scottish-domiciled first-time entrants to higher education in the United Kingdom, aged under 21, represented about 16 per cent. of the age group, as compared with about 13 per cent. for entrants from the rest of the United Kingdom.

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of students at Scottish universities are taken up by students whose residence is (a) in Scotland, or (b) elsewhere in the United Kingdom by each of the years from 1960 to 1978.

    The following table shows for the academic years 1974–75 to 1976–77 the percentage of full-time and sandwich course students at Scottish universities by country of domicile. Comparable information is not available for earlier years:

    Country of domicile1974–751975–761976–77*
    Scotland75·875·475·3
    Elsewhere in the United Kingdom15·515·215·3
    Outside the United Kingdom8·79·49·4
    Total100·0100·0100·0
    *Provisional.

    Per Capita Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will publish the financial expenditure in education of the six largest metropolitan authorities, per capita of their school populations.

    My Department does not prepare figures of per capita expenditure on education for each local education authority, but following is the information derived from analyses contained in the Education Estimates Statistics 1976–77 published by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy, copies of which are in the Library.

    Financial year 1976–77 (November 1975 prices)
    (1)(2)
    Total estimated expenditure on educationCol. (1) per head of school population
    £000£
    Birmingham120,166552·9
    Leeds77,540550·9
    Sheffield61,129573·5
    Liverpool67,279583·8
    Manchester65,248657·0
    Bradford53,381591·1

    Note: Column (1) comprises all recurrent expenditure, including polytechnics and other colleges of further education. Column (2) has been calculated by reference to total pupils in nursery, primary, middle, secondary and special schools. Costs per pupil in each category of school are given in the publication.

    Social Services

    Health Buildings (Closure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the health buildings closed with his approval despite the recommendations of the relevant community health councils in each of the last five years.

    1st April 1974 (when community health councils were formed) to 31st March 1975

    • None.

    1st April 1975 to 31st March 1976

    • Poplar Hospital, London, E.14.

    1st April 1976 to 31st March 1977

    • Albert Road Maternity Hospital, Burnham on Crouch, Essex.
    • Connaught Hospital, London, E.I7.
    • St. George's Hospital, Hyde Park Corner, London, S.W.1 (part closure).
    • Sleaford Maternity Home, Lincs.
    • Stone Maternity Home, Chalfont St. Giles.
    • Stamford and Rutland, Stamford (part closure).
    • Wanstead Hospital Maternity Unit, London, E.17.
    • Amersham General Hospital, Bucks (part closure).

    1st April 1977 to 31st December 1977

    • Corby Maternity Unit, Northants.
    • Cosford Hospital, Wolverhampton.
    • Holbrook Maternity Home, Derby.
    • Margaret Spencer Hospital, Dallington, Northants.
    • Metropolitan Hospital, London, E.8.
    • Weir Maternity Hospital, London, S.W.12.
    • Wellingborough Hospital, Northants.
    • Willesden General Hospital, London, N.W.10 (part closure).
    • Winslow Hospital, Bucks (part closure).
    • Zachary Merton Annexe, Banstead, Surrey.

    The following proposed closures have been approved since 1st April 1977 but the closures had not yet been implemented at 31st December 1977:

    • Bexley Maternity Hospital, Kent.
    • Bexley and Welling Hospital, Kent.
    • Bradley Wood Hospital, Huddersfield.
    • Eltham and Mottingham Hospital, London,
    • S.E.9, Inpatient Services.
    • Haydock Cottage Hospital, St. Helens.
    • Plaistow Maternity Hospital, London, E.13.
    • W. J. Sanderson Hospital, Gosforth.
    • Zachary Merton Maternity Hospital, Rustington.

    Poor Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish a table in the Official Report of the numbers of poor people in 1976; and if he will classify this information according to (a) whether they live below, at 100 per cent., 110 per cent., 120 per cent. and 140 per cent. of the supplementary benefit level and (b) according to the standard occupational and family groupings.

    This information is not yet available, but I will circulate it in the Official Report when it is.

    Ealing Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made regarding completion of the new Ealing Hospital; and if he will make a statement.

    The main ward tower became available during December. I understand that the contractors expect the west podium and its associated tower floors to be available by 31st January 1978. Completion of the east podium is expected by end of March 1978. It is intended that the area commissioning team should start taking over the building six weeks before estimated final date for completion.

    Exceptional Needs Payments (Alarm Clocks)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in the light of his letter to the hon. Member for Newham, North West dated 10th January 1978 stating that it was very rare for an unemployed person to be supplied with an alarm clock or money to purchase one, he will publish in the Official Report the number of such occasions when this has happened in the past.

    As I said in my letter to my hon. Friend, we do not keep figures of the rare cases where payments are made for alarm clocks. The cost of keeping detailed statistics of this kind would not be justified as this information would not assist the administration of the supplementary benefit scheme.

    Social Security And Welfare

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will give consideration to the appointment of an independent inquiry into the effectiveness of the present social security and welfare system with terms of reference to include consideration of the present separation of local authority care from central Government cash.

    We have already in hand a review of the Supplementary Benefits Scheme, and one of the factors which led to the setting up of the review was the relationship between the responsibilities of the Supplementary Benefits Commission and those of other agencies of central and local government. We have undertaken to publish any proposals for changes in the scheme so that they can be widely studied. That will provide an opportunity to raise for discussion any particular issues relating to the relationship between the various services. Both we and the Commission have for long advocated the need for consultation and co-operation at all levels of these services.

    Public Records And Documents

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the categories of public records and documents for which he is responsible containing information which is available to the public only upon the payment of a fee, after the passage of 30 years and 100 years, respectively.

    There are no such records for which my right hon. Friend is responsible.

    Births, Marriages And Deaths

    asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services if he will provide facilities through the General Register Office for the information exclusively contained in registers of births, marriages and deaths, not open to public inspection, to be made available to genuine students and research workers at a nominal fee.

    No. The registers contain personal details which individuals are required under penalty to give to the registrar. The law confers no right of public access to the registers in the custody of superintendent registrars, thus protecting the information from casual scrutiny, but enables members of the public to have a certificate from any entry in which they have a legitimate interest by providing that any person may search the indexes and obtain a certified copy of any entry in the registers on payment of the prescribed fee. There is no provision in law for information from the registers to be disclosed otherwise than by the issue of a certified copy or short birth certificate.Staffing and accommodation in register offices are provided by local authorities on the basis of the statutory duties of superintendent registrars and the rights which the law confers on the public. The extra staff and accommodation that would be needed to enable people to study the registers in suitable conditions and under proper supervision could not be provided without increased expenditure by local authorities.

    Disabled Children (Bury)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the number of disabled children who live in residential homes in the Bury area.

    Information is not available in the form requested, but 15 disabled children are currently maintained by Bury District Social Services Department in residential accommodation.

    Deaths (Registration)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations have been made to the Registrar General to enable the registration of death at any local office within the boundaries of any local authority, regardless of the actual location of the occurrence of death.

    In 1976, as a result of the proposed closure of an outstation for the registration of births and deaths in one registration district, a large number of representations were made against the scheme proposed by the local authority. The majority were on the grounds that hardship would be caused for local people by the need to travel to an office in the city centre but they included two from hon. Members and one from the local community health council which, additionally, suggested amendment of the law to allow a death to be registered by any registrar. Following these representations, my right hon. Friend decided that the local scheme should be modified, and as a result the outstation was retained, resolving the local difficulties which had given rise to the suggestion. The proposal to seek amendment of the law on death registration was taken up by the Association of District Councils and its representatives have recently discussed the matter with the Deputy Registrar General.Apart from this, the Registrar General has received 12 inquiries on the subject in the past 10 years, six from hon. Members, one from a private individual and five from county councils, two of which were considering economies in registration facilities in rural areas.

    Administrative Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what was the administrative cost of operating free milk and vitamins in the last full financial year(2) what was the administrative cost of operating supplementary benefits in the last complete financial year;(3) what was the administrative cost of operating family incomes supplement for the last full financial year.

    For 1976–77, the administration costs, including the costs of other Government Departments, are estimated to be:

    £million
    Free milk and vitamins 0·2
    Supplementary benefits221·5
    Family income supplement1·0

    Departmental Banking

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when his Department's banking business was last put out to competitive tender.

    As is general practice for most Government Departments, the Paymaster-General acts in effect as the Department's banker.

    National Insurance (Employers' Contributions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the yield of employers' national insurance contributions in the United Kingdom.

    On the assumptions used in the Government Actuary's report on the 1978–19 contribution rates (Cmnd. 7036), the total yield from employers' national insurance contributions, including the National Health Service redundancy fund and maternity pay fund elements, in the United Kingdom for the tax year 1977–78 is estimated to be about £5,800 million.In addition, it is estimated that the yield of the national insurance surcharge will be £1,320 million.

    Smoking And Contraception

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he has studied the report of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists on the possible effect of smoking on women over 35 years who are taking the contraceptive pill; if he has decided to make observations on the report; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he plans to issue a circular to area health authorities on the report of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynæcologists on smoking among women over 35 years who are taking the contraceptive pill, recommending advice to such women through their general practitioners; and if he will make a statement.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Brent, South (Mr. Pavitt) on 26th October 1977.—[Vol. 936, c. 741.]

    War Widows' Pensions

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many women are currently being paid war widows' pensions as a result of the death of their husbands whilst on active service in Ulster.

    The information is not readily available in precisely the form requested, but I can inform my hon. Friend that up to 9th January 1978 177 such pensions had been awarded, of which 51 were to widows of members of the Ulster Defence Regiment.

    Hospitals (Birmingham)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what specific recommendations his Department has received about the closure of hospitals in Birmingham.

    The West Midlands Regional Health Authority has recommended the closure of Romsley Hill Hospital. Recommendations have also been received from a number of community health councils, trade unions and other interests about Romsley Hill and other hospitals in Birmingham, and I will write to my hon. Friend with details.

    Alcoholism

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has any estimate of the number of young people who are alcoholic or who have drink problems; and what action his Department is taking to deal with the problem.

    No reliable estimate is available, but I am seriously concerned about the growing evidence of alcohol abuse, particularly among young people. Prevention depends substantially upon the attitudes of society as a whole, and later this year the Health Departments will be publishing a consultative document to stimulate public debate on a range of preventive measures. Meanwhile the Health Education Council, with financial assistance from my Department, is conducting an experimental campaign in the North-East of England to promote a responsible attitude to alcohol. This is directed partly to young people, and we seek to learn which approaches are the most effective.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his most recent estimate of the number of homeless alcoholics and the current number of hostel places available for alcoholics; if he will give a list, together with the places to be made available in each one, of those hostels that are planned and when they will be in operation; and if he will make a statement on present or future progress.

    There is no reliable estimate of the number of homeless alcoholics. 65 hostels for alcoholics with 703 places are supported with capital and/or revenue grant: another hostel to provide 20 places is being proposed and we await the local authority recommendation. Details are given below. There are also two local authority hostels providing 16 places. Voluntary organisations continue to show an interest in this scheme. The Department will consider any proposal where it can be established that there is a need and it is supported by the local authority.

    (A) HOSTELS PREVIOUSLY IN THE HOME OFFICE AFTER CARE SCHEME
    OrganisationAddress of HostelNumber of Places
    Wayback FoundationCastle Close, Plymouth, Devon13
    Salvation ArmyGloucester House, 6 High Street, Highworth.
    Swindon, Wiltshire16
    Spitalfields Crypt TrustChristchurch, Spitalfields19
    Downham Lodge, 284 Amhurst Road, N.1012
    Homeless Action and Accommodation.60 Settle Street, E.l7
    Bow MissionClapham House, 302 Devons Road, E320
    Helping Hand Organisation(1) Hartley House, 31 Madeley Road, W.512
    (2) Giles House, 23 Grove Park, S.E.518
    (3) Kenmore House, 31/32 Grove Park, S.E.510
    (4) Richards House, Townley Street, Middleton, Lancs.8
    Birmingham Diocesan CouncilProspect Hill House, 18 Wretham Road, Birmingham10
    Royal London Aid Society1205 London Road, S.W.1616
    Bridgehead Housing AssociationElleswick Lodge, Park Road, Newcastle on Tyne16
    Bridgehead (Nottingham) Housing Association.25 Addison Street, Nottingham12
    Alcoholics Recovery Project(1) Rathcoole House, 2 Ferndale Road, S.W.411
    (2) 6 Lynette Avenue, S.W.47
    (3) 12 Cranmer Road, S.W.9 (replaced by 6 places at 35 Camberwell New Road, S.E.5)4
    Oxford and District Council on81 Cowley Road, Oxford5
    Alcoholism.195 Iffley Road, Oxford9
    Society of St. DismasSt. Aubyns House, 30/32 Cranbury Avenue,Southampton.14
    Hampshire Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders.35 Leigh Road, Eastleigh, Hants9
    248
    (B) HOSTELS SUPPORTED SINCE 1ST APRIL 1973
    OrganisationAddress of HostelNumber of Places
    St. Anne's Shelter and Housing Action Ltd.40 Kelso Road, Leeds12
    16 Kendal Lane, Leeds4
    St. Marks House, 186 Woodhouse Lane, Leeds20
    2 Hillcrest Avenue, Leeds8
    3 Inglewood Terrace, Leeds9
    114 Markham Avenue, Leeds4
    Alcoholics Recovery Project39 Haselrigge Road, S.W.46
    6 Lynette Avenue, S.W.47
    19 Cavendish Road, S.W.48
    51 Rosenthal Road, S.E.610
    105 Howson Road, S.E.46
    35 Camberwell New Road, S.E.5 (replacement for 4 places at Cranmer Road)6
    Helping Hand Organisation4 Glevelands Road, Prestwich12
    63 Whitstable Road, Canterbury12
    Miliken House, 116 Argyle Road, Ealing, W.137
    27 Hoole Road, Chester12
    4 Edward Street, Oldham12
    Allen House CharityAllen House, 112 Aldwick Road, Bognor Regis, Sussex.10
    Hampshire Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders.38/40 Leigh Road, Eastleigh, Hants.16
    Church Army23 Plymouth Grove, Manchester6
    172 Plymouth Grove, Manchester10
    Birmingham Diocesan CouncilProspect Hill House, 20 Wretham Road, Birmingham10
    Avon Council on Alcoholism21 Tyndalls Park Road, Bristol21
    Fairmeadow Hostel Committee10/11 Fairmeadow, Maidstone, Kent14
    Scunthorpe Committee for Alcoholism.6 Old Crosby, Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire7
    Hastings Hostel Ltd25, 27, 29 Lower Hastings Street, Leicester17
    Anac House Project4 Meriden Street, Coventry9
    Kenward TrustKenward House, Yalding, Kent10

    Organisation

    Address of Hostel

    Number of Places

    Westminster Advisory Centre on Alcoholism.12 Aldrington Road, S.W.169
    Thamesdown North Wilts Council on Alcoholism.Touchdown Guest House, Wooton Basset, Wilts.20
    Devon Council on AlcoholismArden House, Union Road, Crediton13
    AquariusPebble Mill House, Bristol Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham15
    1 Connaught Road, Wolverhampton13
    4 St. Georges Street, Northampton10
    Salvation ArmyBooth House Detoxification Unit, Whitechapel Road, E.l11
    Alcoholic Assessment Unit, Garford Street, E.420
    Alcoholic Wing, William Booth House, Great Passage Street, Hull10
    Society of St. Dismas3 Cranbury Avenue, Southampton8
    Bow MissionClapham House Annexe, 302A Devons Road, E.324
    1 Merchant Street, E.324
    24 and 172 Burdett Road, E.324
    Spelthorne St. Mary55 Milton Road, Harpenden, Herts17
    455
    (C) HOSTEL PROPOSED

    Organisation

    Address of Hostel

    Number of Places

    Merseyside, Lancashire and Cheshire Council on Alcoholism.46 Ullet Road, Liverpool20

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many detoxification units are now in operation; where are they located; how many individuals each has treated; what other units are planned; and when these will come into operation.

    Two; one each at Leeds and Manchester respectively. Up to 31st December 1977, the Leeds centre has admitted 498 individuals. The Manchester centre, opened in November 1977, had admitted 37. A third centre in London is expected to open later this year. Detoxi

    Health DistrictHospitalUrgent CasesNon-urgent Cases
    Canterbury and ThanetKent and CanterburyNormally no delay13–17 weeks
    Faversham Cottage14 weeks
    Queen Victoria Memorial. 120 weeks
    Isle of Thanet District:
    Ramsgate Wing6 weeks
    Margate Wing12 weeks
    Dartford and Gravesham West Hill*:
    Consultant A8 weeksChildren: 9 weeks
    Adults: 24 weeks
    Consultant B4 weeks19 weeks
    Consultant CNormally no delay16 weeks
    (Special orthopaedic hand clinic—2 weeks)
    Gravesend and North Kent:
    Consultant A3 weeks7 weeks
    Consultant B2 weeks8 weeks
    MaidstoneWest Kent GeneralAbout27 weeks
    Preston Hall1 week16 weeks

    fication is carried out in many general and psychiatric hospitals as part of their normal work and by some voluntary bodies.

    Hospital Waiting Times (Kent)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the waiting times for orthopaedic consultations in each health district in Kent for urgent and non-urgent cases, respectively.

    Health District

    Hospital

    Urgent Cases

    Non-urgent Cases

    MedwayMedway Hospital:
    Consultant A.Normally no delay36 weeks
    Consultant B.8 weeks†
    Consultant C.4–8weekst†
    South East KentBuckland.1–2 weeks72 weeks
    Ashford63 weeks
    Royal Victoria, Folkestone20 weeks
    Deal8 weeks
    Tunbridge WellsPemburyNormally no delay18 weeks
    Kent and Sussex15 weeks
    Queen Victoria13 weeks
    Cambridge and District War Memorial7 weeks
    Crowborough War Memorial18 weeks
    Sevenoaks13 weeks

    *Variation in waiting times due to different types of work undertaken by individual consultants.

    †Of shorter duration due to temporary closure of

    lists.

    Artificial Insemination

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to his Written Answer on 18th January, what professional advice he took in coming to his decision that the issue of artificial insemination by donor for lesbians is a clinical and not a policy judgment.

    I am writing to the hon. Member on this point and the related issues raised in his letter to my right hon. Friend.

    £000's
    EthiopiaSomalia
    Capital Aid (including food aid and disaster relief)Technical Co-operationCapital Aid (including food aid, disaster relief, pensions and compensation)Technical Co-operation
    19671291
    196822042
    19693233988
    197046162142
    197140060154131
    197222377419191
    1973797989207
    19749451,113144
    19751,2791,630100148
    19761,1911,14026128
    Figures for expenditure in 1977 are not yet available, but in the case of Ethiopia expenditure will be lower than in 1976, largely because of the difficulty of keeping Technical Co-operation staff there in present circumstances.

    India (Shipping Order)

    Overseas Development

    Ethiopia And Somalia

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development what British aid has been given to Ethiopia and Somalia, respectively, during each of the last 10 years.

    Gross expenditure on overseas aid to Ethiopia and Somalia in the 10 years from 1967 to 1976 was as follows:to conclude the deal for the provision of six 15,500 tons deadweight dry cargo vessels to the Indian Government.

    I cannot give a firm date, but hope that negotiations for the supply of six 16,500 deadweight vessels will be concluded within the next few weeks.

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether the finance for the six 15,500 deadweight tons dry cargo vessels being supplied to India will be a grant or a loan; and, if the latter, if she will give details.

    The vessels would be financed from our normal aid allocation for India, all of which is now provided on grant terms.

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development who will be managing the six 15,500 tons deadweight dry cargo vessels being supplied by British Shipbuilders Ltd. to the Indian Government.

    The vessels would be owned and managed by the Shipping Corporation of India.