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Volume 948: debated on Tuesday 18 April 1978

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 18th April 1978

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

European Farm Price Review

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his policy towards the opinion expressed by the European Parliament that in the European Economic Community 1978 farm price review there should be a maximum overall price increase of 2 per cent. and no price increase at all for those products where there is a structural surplus.

We entirely agree that there should be no increase in common prices for products in structural surplus. We wish to see the maximum restraint on common prices and my right hon. Friend will continue to press for this as forcefully as he can.

Potatoes

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will now make known his policy on potato acreages and guaranteed prices for the current season.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Watford (Mr. Tuck) on 3rd March and the reply given to the hon. Member for Weston-super-Mare (Mr. Wiggin) on 16th March.—[Vol. 945, c. 413–14; Vol. 946, c. 615.]

Wales

Hawarden Airport

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will make representations to British Aerospace seeking its co-operation in extending the time during which Hawarden Airport is open for air services from and to Cardiff in order to improve the viability of the new service that has recently been established.

Arrangements for the use of Hawarden airport are a matter for negotiation between British Aerospace and the air operator concerned. The Welsh Office is in close touch with the discussions about the service between Cardiff and North Wales.

Roads Policy

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether, following the precedent of the Department of the Environment, he will now issue a White Paper on the guidelines on roads policy to be prepared by his Department.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Carmarthen (Mr. Evans) on 10th April.—[Vol. 947, c. 339–40.]

Energy

Oil And Gas

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he will publish his next report on oil and gas development in the United Kingdom.

I have today published the annual "Brown Book" report on the development of the oil and gas resources of the United Kingdom. It covers offshore oil and gas activity last year, together with some new estimates of reserves and prospects for the future. I have placed copies in the Library of the House and in the Vote Office stores.The report is a very encouraging one. It demonstrates clearly the considerable economic impact that oil development is now having on the economy. One indicator is the build-up of oil and gas royalties from £44·2 million in 1976 to £228 million last year. The almost 38 million tonnes of oil production in 1977 was valued at over £2,000 million and the overall benefit to the balance of payments was a similar amount.The report notes a sharp increase in exploration and appraisal activity combined in the second half of last year and forecasts the maintenance of that momentum in 1978.Oil production for 1978 is expected to be between 55 million and 65 million tonnes. This build-up of production will continue with three new oilfields coming on stream in 1978 and the opening of the Sullom Voe oil terminal in Shetland.

The United Kingdom, says the report, remains firmly on target for oil self-sufficiency in 1980.

The report refers to the work done on oil emergency contingency plans following the Ekofisk field blow-out last year. It points to a reduction in both fatal and serious accidents despite an increase in the work force on offshore installations from around 9,200 in 1976 to about 12,100 in 1977.

One of the most encouraging aspects of the report is the number of new oil-field developments around the United Kingdom which have either got under way in the past year or are expected to start shortly.

This, above all, demonstrates that the North Sea remains one of the most economically, technically and politically attractive areas for offshore investment around the world.

Gas Account Debts (Warrant Sales)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many warrant sales were granted to the British Gas Corporation in Scotland in each of the last five years for the recovery of domestic debt from consumers.

This is a matter for the British Gas Corporation; I am asking the chairman of the Corporation to write to the hon. Member to provide the information available.

Education And Science

Comprehensive Schools (Sixth Forms)

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are her criteria for a secondary comprehensive school having a sixth form.

I have to look at every proposal for the establishment of a sixth form on its merits. But my concern is that there should be an adequate range of courses without uneconomic staffing or at the expense of the rest of the school. This suggests normally a minimum of 70 pupils and preferably 100.

Fircroft College, Selly Oak

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she is satisfied that the governing, admini- strative and curricular arrangements now in being at Fircroft College, Selly Oak, Birmingham, are such as to warrant the resumption of normal financial support of the work of Fircroft College by her Department.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer that I gave to his question on 14th February—[Vol. 944, col. 187]. As no formal proposals for new long-term residential courses of liberal adult education at Fircroft College have yet reached me, these are not matters on which I have formed a view.

School Transport

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what time she has set for the conclusion of consultations with local education authorities on the report of Local Authorities' Management Services and Computer Committee's report on school transport; and if she will make a statement.

No time limit has been set at this stage. The LAMSAC report is purely a technical study and we are now engaged in preparing new proposals for consultation. I share the hon. Member's desire to make progress as quickly as possible, but there must be adequate time for consideration and discussion by those concerned.

Burnham Committee

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she expects the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service to announce its recommendations on the composition of the Burnham Committee.

ACAS has not been invited, nor has it undertaken, to review the composition of the Burnham Committees.

Education Standards

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she is satisfied with the standard of attainment in schools.

There is always room to raise standards and this is what the Government, in partnership with the local education authorities and teachers, are seeking to do.

Further Education Students

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of young people between the ages of 16 and 18 years are in full-time education; and what were the corresponding figures in 1972 and 1967.

In England and Wales the proportion in January 1978 was about 30 per cent., if those under school leaving age are excluded. The corresponding percentages for 1972 and 1967 were 27 and 20 respectively.

Schools (Governing Bodies)

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she now expects to implement the Taylor Report on the governing bodies of schools.

My right hon. Friend accepts that there should be better representation of parents and teachers on school governing bodies, and there has been support for this from many of those we have consulted about the Taylor Report. However, differing opinions have been expressed about some of the committee's other recommendations and my right hon. Friend will wish to hold discussions with some of those concerned before coming to any conclusions on the report as a whole.

Violent Children

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what consideration she is giving to the provision of special units to which violent and ill-disciplined school children can be removed on the basis put forward by the National Association of School Masters and Union of Women Teachers.

Her Majesty's Inspectorate has recently undertaken a survey of special units for disruptive pupils. On the basis of this we hope to publish this summer a report which may be helpful to those authorities which have already set up units or are contemplating doing so.

Student Awards (Arts Courses)

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she is satisfied with the present system of dis- cretionary awards for students taking courses in the arts.

My right hon. Friend recognises that there is room for improvement in the present system and is considering what changes might be made as resources become available.

Comprehensive Schools (York Conference)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what follow-up she proposes to the conference at York on comprehensive schools.

A report on the conference will be published in the summer. I hope that it will stimulate all those concerned with comprehensive schools to look afresh at the best practices that exist. The conference confirmed my belief that we must press on as quickly as possible with the elimination of selection for secondary education.

Comprehensive Reorganisation

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will extend the two months she has given to local authorities who have not yet put comprehensive reorganisation proposals to her.

Six months has normally been allowed for the first submission of proposals. The time given for further proposals has varied according to particular circumstances. Requests for extensions are granted only in very exceptional cases.

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science on what grounds she refused to accept the proposals to reorganise secondary schools in the London borough of Bromley on comprehensive lines so far as they affect St. Olave's School.

The local education authority of Bromley and the governors of St. Olave's Church of England (Voluntary Aided) School proposed that the school be enlarged from three to six forms of entry and that selection be eliminated by the mid-1980s. My right hon. Friend could see no justification for enlarging the school beyond its present capacity or for deferring the date of the elimination of selection beyond 1979, when the four other remaining grammar schools in the borough are due to become comprehensive.

40.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she has yet had a reply from the Redbridge Council in response to her request for the transmission of a scheme for the full implementation of Section 2 of the Education Act 1976 in that borough.

The council's reply was received on 31st March and my right hon. Friend is now actively considering the use of her powers under the Education Acts.

41.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what further action is proposed against the local education authorities who continue to have grammar schools available within their areas.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many local education authorities have failed to implement the provisions of the Education Act 1976; and if she will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member and my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to a Question from my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Hillsborough (Mr. Flannery).

Primary School Closures

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many primary schools have been closed in England and Wales in each of the last three years.

In 1977, the earliest year for which the information is available, 87 proposals to close primary schools in England were approved under Section 13 of the Education Act 1944, as amended. So far, 14 proposals have been approved this year. Matters relating to Wales are for my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

Higher Education Students (Grants)

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will now reduce to an upper limit of 21 years the age at which a full-time student in higher education is deemed to be financially dependent on parents for the purposes of grant assessment.

No. It would cost over £20 million, and this cannot be found from present resources.

Local Education Authorities

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Education when she next intends to meet the leaders of local education authorities.

I expect to meet the leaders of local education authorities within the next few weeks, though no date has yet been fixed.

School Building Programmes

27.

asked the Secretary for Education and Science what are (a) the original and (b) the revised figures for the financial allocations being made available for 1978 bulding programmes in respect of the six largest metropolitan districts, and the metropolitan districts of the West Yorkshire Metropolitan County.

The 1978–79 school building programme planning allocations and final allocations respectively for the six largest metropolitan districts, and the three metropolitan districts of the West Yorkshire Metropolitan County not included in the six largest metropolitan districts, are as follows:

Local Education AuthorityPlanning allocationFinal allocation
£'000£'000
Birmingham1,5001,637
Bradford1,2901,639
Leeds9902,007
Liverpool740808
Manchester480524
Sheffield700763
Calderdale220403
Kirklees1,5002,004
Wakefield9501,146
The increases in the allocations arise from changed price levels and the inclusion of bids from local authorities for additional allocations in so far as these were acceptable and national resources allowed.In addition the authorities concerned have been given allocations for energy conservation in 1978–79 and certain projects which they may carry out in 1978–79

under the special programme to assist reorganisation (SPAR), as follows:

Local Education AuthorityEnergy conservation £'000SPAR
Birmingham124Erdington Girls School—Specialist teaching accommodation.
Bradford47
Leeds84City of Leeds School—Sports hall, changing accommodation, etc.
Liverpool7710 R.C. Schools—Facilities for Middle Schools' reorganisation.
John Hamilton School—Elimination of Split Site.
Manchester89Fallowfield High School—Toilets, music and craft accommodation
Minor works at several schools.
Sheffield67All Saints School—New art area and library.
Calderdale16
Kirklees42
Wakefield27Tertiary College extensions.

Truancy

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she proposes to collect new national figures for truancy.

My right hon. Friend has no plans to collect these figures. At a meeting held in 1976 with representatives of the teachers and local authorities organisations it was agreed that such a survey was not of sufficient use to be justified.

Speech Defects

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will list the number of children in each of the Rotheshaw, Barnsley and Doncaster education areas who suffer from speaking difficulties; and if she will make a statement on the action she is taking to supply an adequate number of specialist teachers in this field overall.

The following table gives for these local education authorities the number of children ascertained as being handicapped by speech defects, together with the number of children in other categories of main handicap who also have some degree of speech impairment.

JANUARY 1977
Speech defects (main handicap)Other main handicap with some speech impairment
Special schoolsOrdinary schoolsSpecial schools
Barnsley12255
Rotherham290
Doncaster18*95
* January 1978.

Details of other children with less severe speaking difficulties are not available. The needs of children with speech and language disorders are met jointly by teachers and speech therapists. At present there is no specialist qualification for teachers which is specifically directed to speech impairment. We shall be looking at the future training of teachers for different aspects of special education in the light of the report of the Warnock Committee.

Illiteracy

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what plans she has made to secure the maximum participation within England and Wales of activities concerned with the campaign to combat illiteracy on 8th September, as part of the worldwide International Literacy Day.

None, as I consider that the crucial need for literacy tuition both in schools and adult education is best promoted on a continuing basis through post-Bullock initiatives in our schools and the whole adult literacy campaign. The arrangements for Wales are a matter for my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.

Remedial Education

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will take steps to encourage local educational authorities to increase remedial education in primary schools.

My right hon. Friend has already done so. The Government's calculations for the 1978–79 rate support grant settlement already provide for the employment for the nation as a whole of about 1,000 additional teachers to enable local education authorities to make particular improvements in staffing for pupils who need remedial education. My Department has also invited authorities to include in their report on their curricular arrangements an account of steps taken to help primary schools make appropriate provision for pupils making slow progress.

School Meals

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is her latest estimate of the cost of subsidising school meals in the financial year ending 5th April 1979; and if she will make a statement.

The cost of subsidising the school meals service in 1978–79 is estimated to be £377 million at 1978 survey prices.

Teachers (Retirement)

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she is satisfied with the progress made towards provision for early retirement of teachers.

Financial provision is being arranged for teachers aged 50 or over, with at least five years' service, who are made redundant or are retired early in the interest of the efficient exercise of their employer's functions. Regulations have now been made to allow payment of accrued superannuation benefits to those teachers, and further regulations are being prepared to provide for enhancement of those benefits by the compensating authority.

Political Education

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will make a statement on the report of Her Majesty's Inspectorate on political education.

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is her policy with regard to the report of Her Majesty's Inspectorate on political education in schools; and if she will make a statement.

51.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations she has received from Her Majesty's Inspectorate and trade unions concerning the desirability of making sytematic provision of education in citizenship and politics in secondary schools.

A recently published collection of working papers about the school curriculum for 11–16-year-olds prepared by Her Majesty's inspectors included one about education for political competence. I welcome the interest which this paper has aroused amongst both educators and others and I believe that the schools have an important contribution to make in equipping boys and girls to play their part as responsible citizens in a parliamentary democracy.

Mathematics Teaching

42.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she is satisfied with the progress being made in the retraining of unemployed teachers to teach mathematics in secondary schools; and if she will make a statement.

Yes. Retraining courses in mathematics for qualified teachers, including those who have been unable to obtain teaching posts, recruited about 240 teachers in the current academic year. Together with the scheme of awards financed through the Manpower Services Commission, the Government's initiatives are likely to make available some 400 additional mathematics teachers this year. As my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced in his Budget speech, these arrangements are to continue in 1978–79.

Head Teachers (Appointments)

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what action she is taking to improve appointments procedures and training for head teachers.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply that I gave to the hon. Member for Hove (Mr. Sainsbury) on 14th March 1978.—[Vol. 946. c. 131.]

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she expects to receive the response of local authorities to the Green Paper "Education in Schools", in relation to the manner of appointment of head teachers.

The Green Paper (Cmnd. 6869) invited authorities to consider their arrangements for securing the best possible appointments. It asked for no specific report, but my Department intends to discuss the matter with the authorities' associations and teachers' associations in the coming months.

University Teachers (Pay)

43.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she expects to receive the report from Committee B regarding the phasing of the correction of the anomaly in university teachers' salaries; and if she will make a statement.

The timing has not been decided. I have nothing to add at present to the reply given by my right hon. Friend to the hon. Member for Uxbridge (Mr. Shersby) on 23rd March.—[Vol. 946, c. 663–4.]

Examinations

44.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what recent proposals she has received from the Schools Council about the public examination system.

The Schools Council has put to me proposals for a common system of examining at 16-plus, to replace the present Certificate of Secondary Education and General Certificate of Education O level examinations. The council has also proposed a new examination, the Certificate of Extended Education, for candidates taking one year courses in the sixth form. Both proposals are under consideration by committees appointed by me. The council is at present studying the possibility of replacing GCE A levels with a five-subject two-level examination system, but has not yet made any recommendations to me.

Education Act 1976

45.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she now plans to amend the Education Act 1976.

Religious Education

46.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations she has received concerning the state of religious education in schools.

Since 1st April 1977, my right hon. Friend has received representations from four bodies concerned with religious education and 31 individual letters.

Gifted Children

47.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she is satisfied with the arrangements made by local education authorities for supporting gifted children who have to be educated outside their home education area.

I am satisfied that local education authorities have adequate powers to help exceptional children for whom suitable education cannot be provided within their own areas.

Arts Council

49.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress she is making in her plans to make the Arts Council more democratic and representative of workers in the arts and entertainment.

In making appointments to the Council I continue to be guided by the need to make the Council an authoritative and effective instrument for Government support for the arts, and that it should reflect the interests both of artists and of the public, who are the paymasters and ultimate consumers.

Teachers (Employment)

53.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many qualified teachers were still unemployed at the commencement of the summer term 1978.

On 9th March 1978, in England and Wales, 8,852 qualified people were registered as unemployed by the Department of Employment and seeking jobs as school teahers. This compares with a figure of 10,513 in December last and represents about 2 per cent. of the teacher force in England and Wales. The Department of Employment's next count of unemployed teachers will be in June; the results will be available in July.

Social Priority Schools Allowance Scheme

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she expects to receive the report on the future of the social priority schools allowance scheme from the Burnham Primary and Secondary Committee.

It is for the Burnham Primary and Secondary Committee to make recommendations to my right hon. Friend when they wish.

Public Schools

52.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she will introduce legislation to integrate the public schools into the comprehensive secondary system.

I would refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Enfield, North (Mr. Davies).

Expenditure

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what percentage of the gross national product is spent on educational services of all kinds;(2) what percentage of the gross national product is spent on educational services of all kinds excluding universities.

In the financial year 1976–77, the latest year for which figures are available, United Kingdom current and capital expenditure from public funds on education, libraries, science and arts amounted to 7·4 per cent of the gross national product, at factor cost, or 6·7 per cent. excluding grants to universities.

Museum (Purchase Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will specify the sum which forms part of the £823,000 grant in aid for purchases by local museums in Vote 16, Class X for 1978–79, but which derives from the £1 million set aside to assist with the preservation of the national heritage as a consequence of her announcement of 26th October 1977, and made available, revalued to £1£42 million, on 1st April 1978.

The English share of the £1 million—£840,000—was added to the total resources available for making acquisition grants. These resources have been revalued to take account of price rises. The division of the total resources, so revalued, has been made on the merits of each case and there is no ground for making hypothetical assumptions about the different components.

School Population

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will make a statement of policy on the problem of falling school rolls.

It seems probable that the school population in England and Wales will fall from 9 million now to about 7 million in 1990. Our policies over this period must embody two guiding principles. The first is that there should be a planned contraction, through the closure of redundant school places, in the interests of educational efficiency as well as economy. My Department's circular 5/77 gave guidance on this subject to local education authorities. The second is that we should take advantage of the opportunity offered by the reduced school population to improve the quality of education. On both aspects I will be keeping in close touch with the representatives of the local authorities and the teachers.

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what account she is taking of the representations received since January in her consideration of the price of school meals.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Stockport, North (Mr. Bennett).

House Of Commons

Members' Salaries

asked the Lord President of the Council whether he is aware that Members of Parliament's salaries have been and are fully below the cost of living index figures, the average increases in wage levels and the average earnings; and whether he will now increase them by 10 per cent. or a minimum of 9·2 per cent.

I appreciate my hon. Friend's observations; however, under the 12-month rule, Members' salaries are not due to be reviewed until June.

Social Services

National Insurance Contributions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate has been made of the total number of employees who will have to pay unnecessary extra national insurance contributions because of the lateness of their employer's application for a contracting-out certificate; and whether the Government propose to take any further steps to assist employees in such cases.

In order to benefit from the special arrangements enabling national insurance contributions to be paid provisionally at the contracted-out rate while the Occupational Pensions Board (OPB) process an application to contract out, an employer must have sent his application to the OPB by 23rd March 1978.It is not possible to say how many employees might be involved in applications sent in after 23rd March. I am advised by the OPB that it had received some 21,000 applications by 5th April 1978. The OPB does not have statistics of the number of these applications which were submitted by 23rd March but its estimate is that 2,000 or so might have been sent in after that date; the OPB emphasises, however, that this estimate could be too high. Those employers who applied after 23rd March and their employees are initially liable to pay national insurance contributions at the higher, not contracted-out rate. When the OPB issues the contracting-out certificates, they will normally be back-dated to 6th April 1978 where the application was for the certificate to be effective from that date. This will mean that the extra contributions may then be refunded. The OPB expects to cleat the vast majority of the applications by about the end of May.I have on proposals for further steps.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will introduce a new voluntary national insurance contribution class for United Kingdom citizens who spend part of their working life in a non-European Community country, but who are members of their United Kingdom employer's occupational pension scheme, and thus covered by the Pensions Act 1975.

We are already looking at the implications for these employees of the provisions of the Social Security Act 1975 and the Social Security Pensions Act 1975. It is clear, however, that there are considerable difficulties inherent in any arrangements of the sort suggested by the hon. Member.

General Practitioners (Remuneration)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average remuneration paid to general practitioners by his Department in the counties of Tyne and Wear, Northumberland and Durham; and how this figure compares with the national average.

The information available relates to gross remuneration, that is, net income plus reimbursement of National Health Service practice expenses. The estimated gross average remuneration per general medical practitioner in the three counties from NHS general medical services was £16,090 for 1976–77, the latest year for which figures are available. The corresponding estimated average in England was £16,150. These figures have been calculated from the expenditure returns of family practitioner committees and the numbers of all practitioners giving unrestricted services on 1st October 1976.

Infant Mortality

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what was the stillbirth and perinatal mortality rate per 1,000 live and stillbirths in England and Wales for 1976 and 1977;

(2) what was the perinatal mortality per 1,000 total births in England and Wales for the years 1967 to 1977 inclusive;

(3) what was the neonatal mortality rate per 1,000 live births in England and Wales for 1976 and 1977.

The rates of stillbirth and early mortality in England and Wales are as follows:

Stillbirths Per 1,000 live birthsPerinatal Stillbirths plus deaths under 1 week of ageNeonatal Deaths under 4 weeks of age Per 1,000 total births
196725·4
196824·7
196923·4
197023·5
197122·3
197221·7
197321·0
197420·4
197519·3
19769·717·79·7
1977*9·417·0Not yet available
* Provisional.

Unemployment Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he has made of social security benefits paid out, during the latest 12 month period for which figures are available, in respect of supplementary benefit for unemployed persons who have just left school without ever having a job.

Pensions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will outline the pension entitlement for a person employed by a United Kingdom company but assigned to work in a non-European Economic Community country in a contracted-out pension scheme who pays Class I contributions for 52 weeks and Class III contributions thereafter, indicating the effect on the indexation of the guaranteed minimum pension during the payment of his pension.

Such a person, provided he continued to pay Class 3 contributions for the period abroad, would maintain his record for the purposes of the State scheme basic pension. Entitlement to the State Scheme additional pension would depend on earnings in those years after 6th April 1978, up to a maximum of 20, when Class 1 national insurance contributions were paid on earnings between the lower earnings limit and the upper earnings limit.Guaranteed minimum pension (GMP) entitlement would be based on contributions paid in contracted-out employment, again on earnings between the lower and upper earnings limits from 6th April 1978, and again including the first 52 weeks abroad if Class I contributions were paid for those weeks. The accrued GMP rights would be revalued to State pensionable age or death if earlier.No GMP or State scheme additional pension would accrue for the period during which Class 3 contributions are paid.After the State scheme additional pension is awarded, it is uprated each year before the GMP is deducted. Thus the additional pension might be lower than it would otherwise have been but for the periods abroad, but the GMP would be similarly affected resulting in a lower deduction.Moreover, for those who will not reach State pensionable age within the next 20 years, the "20 best years" provision might enable a full additional pension to be payable and subsequently uprated despite the gap caused by the period abroad. The GMP, however, would be lower as a result of the period abroad and a higher balance of additional pension might be payable after deduction of the GMP.

Supplementary Benefit (Expelled Schoolchildren)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services under what circumstances a pupil of over 16 years of age, temporarily expelled from school for bad behaviour, is entitled to receive supplementary benefit during the period of his expulsion.

Such a pupil would be regarded as still attending school and supplementary benefit would not be paid. The only circumstances where the Supplementary Benefits Commission relaxes this general rule for schoolchildren are where the child is orphaned or estranged from his family, or has a family of his own to support, or is severely handicapped.

Children's Spectacles

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the additional charge to parents of toughened or laminated glass lenses for children with a visual disability.

The hospital and school eye service can supply toughened or laminated glass lenses free of charge when they are prescribed as clinically necessary. Under the general ophthalmic services they are available at an additional charge to the patient of £2·23 per lens for single vision lenses and £3·10 per lens for bifocal lenses.

Means Tests

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy towards the standardisation of means tests both within and between local authorities; what representations he has received on local authority means tests; and if he will make a statement.

I have seen the papers prepared by the All Party Disablement Group and by the Supplementary Benefits Commission which raise, among other matters, the question of means testing.I have an overall interest in the level of charges made by local authorities for their personal social services, because of the implications for net public expenditure and particular services. In general, however, the responsibility for deciding whether or not to raise charges, the level of any charges and the assessment of an individual's ability to pay rests with the local authorities themselves. In reaching these decisions authorities must consider a wide range of local factors and account to their electorate for the revenues raised. There is, however, a statutory requirement to charge for accommodation under Part III of the National Assistance Act 1948 and, in assessing a person's ability to pay, to give effect to Part III of Schedule I of the Supplementary Benefits Act 1967.I am aware that certain anomalies in charging policies and means testing have arisen, due to local circumstances. These matters are at present being considered by an inter-departmental group and I will consider, in the light of its deliberations, if any guidance would be appropriate.

Fertility Drugs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many children were born following the use of a fertility drug in the last year for which figures are available; what were the perinatal and infant mortality rates for such births; what was the incidence of handicap in the surviving children; and if he will make a statement.

I regret that none of the information asked for by my hon. Friend is available.

Disabled Persons (Equipment Evaluation)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will ask the appropriate part of his Department to speed up its evaluation tests on equipment for severely handicapped people, so that such equipment can be made available at an early date; and if he will make a statement on such evaluations.

Only a small proportion of the total number of evaluations of such equipment is carried out directly by my Department. Such evaluations can by their nature be protracted but are carried forward as quickly as resources allow.I shall be very glad to look into any particular case about which my hon. Friend is concerned.

Mentally Handicapped Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the proposed rate of spending on the provision of services for the mentally handicapped over the next five years.

The planning guidelines in March to health authorities in England indicate a national average growth in expenditure on health and personal social services specifically for the mentally handicapped of 2·9 per cent. a year. These services will also benefit from the additional £50 million recently made available to the Health Service.

Booth Hall Hospital, Manchester

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the funded establishment of nurses at Booth Hall Hospital, Manchester; what is the number of nurses required to be employed at the same hospital to bring staffing up to regional guide lines; and what were the actual number of nurses employed at that hospital on 30th March 1978.

Disabled Married Women (Benefits)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the maximum amount a disabled married woman can qualify for in cash benefits which do not

February 1974April 1978November 1978
£££
Attendance allowance (higher rate)6·2014·0015·60
Mobility allowance7·0010·00
Non-contributory invalidity pension for married women10·5011·70
Total6·2031·5037·30

Electro-Convulsive Therapy

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to keep statistics on the use of electro-convulsive therapy similar to those kept on psychosurgery.

I would refer my hon. Friend to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Price), on 22nd November. My right hon. Friend has decided to collect statistics of electro-convulsive therapy treatments carried out in mental illness hospitals and units, and of the number of courses of treatment which these represent.—[Vol. 939, c. 667.]

Psychosurgery And Electro-Convulsive Therapy

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if there are any plans to introduce legislation to restrict psychosurgery;(2) if he plans in the forthcoming White Paper on the review of the Mental Health Act to define the proposed informed consent procedures to be applied before the administration of electro-convulsive therapy.

The Government's view of these issues will be set out in the forthcoming White Paper on the review of the Mental Health Act.

depend on national insurance contributions; how this compares with the maximum entitlement in February, 1974; what proposals he has for improving existing benefits: and if he will make a statement.

Disabled married women may receive up to £31·50 a week in non-contributory benefits at present compared with a maximum of £6·20 a week in February 1974. The relevant benefits which may be payable and the increases in the rates of these benefits to be made in November as announced by my right hon. Friend last week are listed below:

Mental Patients (Compulsory Treatment)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the purpose for the use of compulsory treatment given to patients under Section 25 of the Mental Health Act which refers to compulsory detention for observation.

I am advised that a patient detained in hospital under Section 25 of the Mental Health Act may be given, without his consent, only such treatment as is either reasonably required as an aid to observation—that is, for the purpose of diagnosis and the determination of the nature of any future care and treatment that may be appropriate, or is immediately necessary in the interests of the patient's own health or safety or with a view to the protection of other persons.

Psychosurgery

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) since the recent form of keeping statistics on psychosurgery operations, how many such operations have been reported;(2) in which hospitals in the United Kingdom psychosurgery operations are currently performed;(3) what types of psychosurgery operations are most commonly used:

(4) if he intends to keep statistics of success and failure rate of psychosurgery.

Health Notice (77)121, issued in August last year asked area health authorities in England to arrange for mental illness and mental handicap hospitals and units to make annual statistical returns to my Department on psychosurgery operations. The first complete set of returns will relate to 1978, but corresponding returns for 1977 were invited.353 hospitals have provided information for 1977. They report 32 psychosurgery operations performed at the following sixteen hospitals:

  • Bethlem Royal and Maudsley Hospitals, London.
  • Brook General Hospital, Woolwich.
  • Atkinson Morley's Hospital, Wimbledon.
  • Salford Royal Infirmary.
  • Leeds General Infirmary.
  • Winwick Hospital, Cheshire.
  • Pindersfield Hospital, Wakefield.
  • Hurstwood Park Hospital, Haywards Heath.
  • Burden Neurological Hospital, Bristol.
  • Plymouth General Hospital.
  • Frenchay Hospital, Bristol.
  • Lancaster Moor Hospital.
  • Preston Royal Infirmary.
  • Manchester Royal Infirmary.
  • North Manchester General Hospital
  • St. Bartholomew's Hospital, London.

Information is not collected in the statistical returns on the types of psychosurgery operations used, but I understand that the Royal College of Psychiatrists is currently conducting a survey on this. It is not feasible to collect meaningful information about the effectiveness of operations through statistical returns.

Disabled Ex-Service Men (Pensions)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many disabled ex-Servicemen were deliberately misled by the improper withholding of their pensions; whether full arrears have now been paid to them, their widows or their legatees; in addition, what compensation and allowance for legal fees is to be made; what disciplinary or other action is intended to be taken against those officials responsible; and what steps he is taking to ensure that this does not happen again.

Industry

Post Office Vehicles (Accidents)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many vehicles being the responsibility of the Post Office were involved in road accidents in each of the last five years.

Post Office Engineers (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what discussions he has had with the Post Office and the Post Office Engineering Union on the subject of the industrial action that since November 1977 has prevented large numbers of people from being connected to the telephone system; why he personally intervened to prevent the Post Office taking disciplinary action against those who are refusing to do their job, thereby depriving the public of telephone service; and if he will make a statement on the prospects for a settlement of this dispute.

The Post Office and the Post Office Engineering Union have kept my right hon. Friend fully informed of developments. My right hon. Friend has met representatives of the union and the chairman and members of the Post Office Board. He is now considering whether there is anything he can do to help.

Departmental Organisations

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish details of the boards, commissions, committees or other types of organisations established by his Department since October 1974, giving in each case the purpose of the organisation, the chairman's and members' salaries and expenses, and the total cost of the organisation for each year since 1974.

The information so far as it is available is shown below. Bodies which were both established and wound up since 1974, or which have not met during the last two years, have not been included.

Established

Purpose

Membership and remuneration

Expenses

Total costs

British AerospaceApril 1977To promote the efficient and economical design, development, production, sale, repair and maintenance of civil and military aircraft, of guided weapons and of space vehicles; and research into matters relating thereto.Chairman £23,538 p.a.Expenses incurred on the Corporation's business are reimbursed by British Aerospace and are a matter for the Corporation.The Corporation's Annual Report and Accounts for 1977 will be laid before Parliament later this year.
Deputy Chairman £29,000 p.a.
1 member between £12,501 and £15,000 p.a.
2 members between £17,501 and £20,000 p.a.
1 member between £20,001 and £22,500 p.a.
2 members between £22,501 and £25,000 p.a.
1 member between £25,001 and £27,500 p.a.
2 members £1,000.
British ShipbuildersJuly 1977To promote and secure the promotion by its wholly owned subsidiaries of the efficient and economical design, development, production, sale, repair and maintenance of ships and slow speed diesel marine engines: research into matters relative thereto.Chairman £23,538 p.a.*Expenses incurred on the Corporation's business are reimbursed by British Shipbuilders and are a matter for the Corporation.The Corporation's Annual Report and Accounts will be laid before Parliament later this year.
2 Deputy Chairman £19,538 p.a.
3 Members £17,501–£20,000 p.a.
4 Members £1,000.†
3 Members unpaid.
Clothing Industry Scheme Advisory Board.February 1976To advise the Secretary of State on more important projects for which companies ave applied for assistance under the Clothing Industry Scheme, having regard in particular to the technical and commercial prospects of the project; the capabilities of the applicant; the contribution the project will make to improving significantly the productivity and efficiency of the applicant and of the industry and any critical factors to be watched in monitoring the project, and to advise generally.Chairman and 4 members (all unpaid).1976–77 … £72(b)
1977–78 … £133
Committee of Inquiry into the Engineering Profession.July 1977To inquire into:Chairman and 17 members (all unpaid).(a)1977–78 … £3,500
(i) British requirements for Engineers and Technicians in Industry;
(ii) Role of the Engineering Institutions in Education and Training;
(iii) Statutory Registration and Licensing;
(iv) Arrangements for the Profession in other countries.

Established

Purpose

Membership and remuneration

Expenses

Total costs

Electrical Technology Research and Development Requirements Board.January 1978To determine, subject to the agreement of the Secretary of State for Industry, the objectives and balance of Department of Industry-funded Research and Development, as proxy customer in the electrical technology field, to further the practical application of technology and to advise the Secretary of State on other matters relating to science and technology in this field.Chairman and 7 members (all unpaid).Not yet available
Electronic Components Instrumentation and Automation Industry Support Schemes Advisory Boards.July 1977To advise the Department of Industry on major projects for which companies have applied for assistance under the Electronic Components or Instrumentation and Automation Schemes, having regard in particular to the requirements of the schemes, the commercial prospects of the project, the capabilities of the company and the contribution that the project would make to strengthening the industry.Chairman and 8 members (all unpaid).1977£106(b)
1978£18
Garment and Allied Industries Research and Development Requirements Board.October 1975To determine, subject to the agreement of the Secretary of State for Industry the objectives and balance of Department of Industry-funded Research and Development, as proxy customer, in the garment and allied industries field, to further the practical application of technology, and to advise the Secretary of State on other matters relating to science and technology in this field.Chairman and 8 members (all unpaid).1975£175(b)
1976£1,500
1977£1,550
1978£255
Manufacturing Advisory Service Steering Committee.July 1977To advise on the operation and development of the Manufacturing Advisory Service, set up to help small and medium sized firms in manufacturing industry to adopt modern technology.Chairman and 13 members (all unpaid).1977£220(b)
1978Not yet available
Manufacturing Machinery Advisory Committee.October 1975To advise the Department of Industry on projects for which companies have applied for assistance under the Machine Tool Industry Scheme, the Printing Machinery Industry Scheme or the Textile Machinery Industry Scheme having regard in particular to the technical and commercial prospects of the project; the capabilities of the company; the contribution that the project would make to strengthening the particular industry; and critical factors to be watched in monitoring the project.Chairman and 7 members (all unpaid).1976£334(b)
1977£244
1978£49

Established

Purpose

Membership and remuneration

Expenses

Total costs

National Committee on Computer Networks.October 1976(1) To consider the development of computer networks in the light of economic and social factors with particular reference to:Chairman (fees £25 per day).‡ 13 members (all unpaid).1976£2151976£322
1977£7291977£32,387
1978£2481978£9,970
(i) the joint interests of users and hardware and software suppliers;
(ii) national and international standards;
(iii) the relationship between private and public networks;
(iv) collaboration with overseas countries.
(2) To provide a forum for discussion between the major parties concerned with computer networks, including the Post Office and government departments, and to give advice to industry and government on computer networks.
National Enterprise Board.November 1975(1) The development or assistance of the economy of the United Kingdom or any part of the United Kingdom.Chairman £32,059 pa. Deputy Chairman £27,550 p.a. 9 members £1,000.§Expenses incurred on the Board's business are reimbursed by the NEB and are a matter for the Board.This information is included in the Board's Annual Report and Accounts which have been laid before Parliament.
(2) The promotion in any part of the United Kingdom of industrial efficiency and international competitiveness.
(3) The provision, maintenance or safeguarding of productive employment in any part of the United Kingdom.
National Maritime Institute Board.July 1976To determine the balance of the work programme of the National Maritime Institute which was set up to continue and develop the work carried out by the Ship and Maritime Science Divisions of the National Physical Laboratory.Chairman and 4 members (all unpaid).(a)(b)
Non-Ferrous Foundry Scheme Advisory Committee.April 1977To advise the Department of Industry on projects for which companies have applied for assistance under the Non-Ferrous Foundry Industry Scheme, having regard in particular to the technical and commercial prospects of the project, the capabilities of the company, the contribution that the project would make to strengthening the industry concerned, and the critical factors to be watched in monitoring the project.Chairman and 5 members (all unpaid).1977£120(b)
1978£35

Established

Purpose

Membership and remuneration

Expenses

Total costs

Waste Management Advisory Council.December 1974Set up jointly with the Department of the Environment to advise the Government on waste management in order to secure the economical utilisation of material resources, and the safe and efficient disposal of wastes.This body is in the process of re-organisation.Shared with the Department of the Environment.Shared with the Department of the Environment.
(a)(b)

Notes:

(a) Travel and subsistence expenses incurred directly on the business of the organisation are normally reimbursed at the rates applicable to senior Civil Servants. The annual total of expenses reimbursed is not readily available.
(b) The total costs are mainly if not exclusively, the expenses of the members, together, in certain cases, with the cost incurred by officials in providing a secretariat, information on which is noi readily available.

* Salary abated by service pension.

† Salary voluntarily not drawn by 1 member.
‡ Fees in 1977 amounted to £500.
§ Includes 2 members who do not draw salaries.

Footwear (Assistance)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he expects to be able to announce the availability of funds for the footwear industry under the assistance scheme proposed by the Footwear Study Group.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he is now able to announce the Government's response to the footwear industry's request for financial assistance.

I am pleased to be able to announce the introduction from today of a scheme of financial assistance for the footwear manufacturing industry under Section 8 of the Industry Act 1972. The scheme has an initial allocation of £4·5 million and seeks to encourage:

  • (a) the use of consultants by small and medium-sized footwear manufacturers to review all aspects of their operations and to fomulate proposals for improving productivity and efficiency.
  • (b) investment in closing room machinery and associated processes.
  • (c) rationalisation of companies' operations and, where appropiate, improvements in the structure of the industry.
  • The above scheme, together with other Government support measures, should meet the industry's requirements. Given a positive response by footwear manufacturers, I am confident that the scheme will play a significant part in assisting the industry to remedy a number of its major internal weaknesses and to ensure its long-term future.I am placing details of the scheme in the Library of the House.

    Textiles

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether any European Economic Community directive or regulation restricts to a maximum of 12½ per cent. on plant any grant under Section 8 of the Industry Act 1972 to the United Kingdom textile industry; whether Her Majesty's Government have imposed any such limit of their own volition; and whether he is satisfied that the Republic of Ireland is not allowed by the European Economic Community to adopt measures to assist its textile industry which are forbidden in Great Britain.

    The EEC Commission recognises the special problem of the Irish Republic but I am not aware of any such restriction, or of such measures.

    Regional Development Fund

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what progress has been made in discussions with other EEC member Governments on the allocation and administration of the European Regional Development Fund for the period 1978–80, including provision of funds outside the national quota arrangement.

    I have nothing to add at present to the answer given to the hon. Member on 10th April—[c. 964–6.]

    Trade

    Zambia

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade by what proportion he expects the total value of British exports to Zambia and the total cost of British imports from Zambia to grow over the next five years in comparison with the last five years.

    Since it is not possible to predict future movements in the present depressed world price of copper, which is the mainstay of the Zambian economy and our principal import from Zambia, there is no real basis for speculating on the growth of United Kingdom/Zambia trade over the next five years.

    Common Fund

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will make a statement on the results of the recent Commonwealth meeting on the Common Fund and on the position Her Majesty's Government adopted at that meeting.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 17th April 1978], gave the following information:A Commonwealth meeting on the Common Fund was held at ministerial level in London on 13th–14th April. Thirty-two Commonwealth countries were represented.This was a useful meeting, which I believe all participants regarded as a success. I particularly welcomed the opportunity to outline the positive nature of our own approach to the Common Fund negotiations. There was full exchange of views on all major aspects of the fund. Ministers sought to identify, without prejudice to national positions, elements of an approach which could contribute constructively to the wider international consultations now in progress on the prospects for a resumption of negotiations in UNCTAD.I am placing in the Library of the House a copy of the statement that I made at the meeting. Following is the text of the communique issued at the end of the meeting:Commonwealth Ministerial Meeting on the Common FundMarlborough House, London13–14 April 1978

    Final Communique

  • 1. Commonwealth Ministers from thirty-two countries met in London on April 13 and 14 to review the state of negotiations on the Common Fund, to consider the report of the Technical Group set up by Commonwealth Heads of Government and to have close consultations at this critical period when renewed efforts are being made to find an acceptable basis for the resumption of the negotiations. The Right Hon. Edmund Dell, British Secretary of State for Trade, was in the Chair.
  • 2. Ministers congratulated the Chairman and members of the Commonwealth Technical Group for the expeditious manner in which they had discharged their mandate. They recognised that the analysis of the Technical Group was helpful to efforts aimed at reaching closer accord on the essential elements of a Common Fund.
  • 3. Ministers agreed on the importance of achieving significant progress in the Common Fund negotiations to the ongoing dialogue between developed and developing countries seeking the establishment of a new international economic order. They regretted the delay in establishing the Common Fund to which the international community as a whole is committed as well as the slow progress in preparing for the negotiation of international commodity agreements, whose conclusion on a broad basis would be facilitated by the creation of the Common Fund. Concern was expressed that this situation was not consistent with declared commitments towards the establishment of a new international economic order.
  • 4. Aware of the crucial importance of commodities in the trade and economic life of developed and developing Commonwealth countries and the urgency of finding solutions for the problems involved, they expressed determination to work for an early resumption of the Negotiating Conference on the Common Fund and its successful conclusion. They urged the international community at the same time to renew its efforts towards an early establishment of the Common Fund, as a key instrument in attaining the agreed objectives of the Integrated Programme for Commodities.
  • 5. Ministers considered that the time had come when the international community should move away from the polarised 'source' and 'pool' concepts and work towards establishing a Common Fund designed to make fullest use of all available funds. Ministers recognised that there was now greater willingness to consider favourably at the appropriate stage in the UNCTAD negotiations proposals both for direct government contributions to the Fund's capital and also deposits by ICA's and borrowing as possible sources of finance. While the precise mix of some or all of these elements would be a matter for negotiation, Ministers felt that the Fund should be so structured as to ensure the most efficient operation of the Common Fund while recognising the special problems of developing countries.
  • 6. Ministers agreed that measures other than buffer stocking played an essential part in the implementation of the Integrated Programme for Commodities. Ministers accepted the possibility of a financial role for the Common Fund in this area as an element in a wider international consensus on the objectives and structure of the Fund. Ministers agreed that any such role would need to be precisely defined, taking account of existing international activity in support of other measures, and should appropriately reflect the collective interests of commodity producers and consumers.
  • 7. Ministers agreed that the negotiations on the Common Fund should take account, as appropriate, of the interests and problems of developing importing countries, particularly the least developed and most seriously affected among them including island and landlocked economies and those lacking in natural resources.
  • 8. Ministers agreed that the organisation, management and voting structure of the Fund would have to be determined in the light of decisions on its scope and financial structure, taking into account the character of the Fund as an institution intended to contribute to the attainment of the objectives of a new international economic order.
  • 9. Ministers expressed satisfaction with the discussion of the issues that the customary style of Commonwealth consultations had made possible. They felt that in view of the Kingston Commonwealth initiative and the large Commonwealth interest in commodity trade, Commonwealth involvement in the commodity issue must continue until there is a satisfactory outcome. They agreed that it would be beneficial for their discussions to resume during the UN Negotiating Conference and requested the Secretary-General to arrange for Commonwealth consultations to be held during the resumed negotiations.
  • Prime Minister (Engagements)

    Q4.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q6.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for Tuesday 18th April 1978.

    Q8.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q10.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q11.

    asked the Prime Minister what are his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q14.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q15.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q17.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q18.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q19.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q22.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for 18th April.

    Q24.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q26.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q27.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q29.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q30.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q31.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q32.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April 1978.

    Q34.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    Q36.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q39.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Tuesday 18th April.

    Q44.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his official engagements for 18th April.

    I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Gosport (Mr. Viggers).

    Tuc

    Q5.

    asked the Prime Minister if he has any plans to meet the leaders of the Trades Union Congress.

    Q21.

    Q28.

    asked the Prime Minister if he has any plans to meet the Trade Union Council.

    Q35.

    asked the Prime Minister when he next proposes to meet the executive of the Trades Union Council.

    Q38.

    asked the Prime Minister when he expects next to meet the Trades Union Congress.

    Q41.

    I met representatives of the TUC on 28th February. Further meetings will be arranged as necessary.

    Government Legislation

    Q9.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he is satisfied about the Government's progress in implementing the programme contained in the Queen's Speech.

    Secretary Of State For Employment

    Q7.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will dismiss the Secretary of State for Employment.

    Q23.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will dismiss the Secretary of State for Employment.

    The hon. Members may assume that I do not intend to make any changes in ministerial appointments or responsibilities—including my taking on any of the existing responsibilities of other Ministers—unless and until I make a statement to the contrary.

    Scotland

    Q20.

    asked the Prime Minister when he next intends to make an official visit to Scotland.

    Labour And Trade Union Movement

    Q42.

    asked the Prime Minister when he will meet representatives of the Labour and trade union movement from the North-West.

    Cbi

    Q35.

    asked the Prime Minister when he expects next to meet representatives of the CBI.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Rossendale (Mr. Noble) on 7th February.

    Political Parties (Ireland)

    Q45.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will seek, jointly with the Taoiseach, to convene a meeting of leaders of all the political parties in Ireland.

    African Countries

    Q46.

    asked the Prime Minister if he has any plans to meet Heads of State of any African countries.

    I shall be meeting President Banda of Malawi tomorrow. In addition, the President of Botswana, Sir Seretse Khama, will be visiting this country in May and I look forward to seeing him then.

    "Horse And Hound"

    Q47.

    asked the Prime Minister whether there is a copy of the Horse and Hound magazine in the Library of No. 10 Downing Street paid for out of public funds.

    Scotland

    Tweed And Eye Fishings (Protection Orders)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what conclusions he has reached on the proposals for a protection order for the Rivers Tweed and Eye under the Freshwater and Salmon Fisheries (Scotland) Act 1976.

    The consultative committee appointed for the purpose under the Act has considered the proposals submitted to me in respect of the Rivers Tweed and Eye, together with a number of objections made to them. The committee considers that although the proposals include a substantial degree of access to freshwater fishings on the rivers, they would not without modification provide adequate access to enable it to recommend that a protection order should be made. The main points on which the committee has commented are the need for improvements with regard to access, particularly on Saturdays and Sundays, standardisation of charges at reasonable levels, rationalisation of booking arrangements, and extension of access to waters not included in the proposals submitted. My Department will now enter into consultation with the proposers and others to see whether modified proposals can be prepared in relation to these matters.In the light of these consultations I will consider in due course the formal objections that have been lodged and, if these are not withdrawn, whether the proposals should be the subject of a public inquiry.

    Northern Ireland

    Probation Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what plans he has to develop the Northern Ireland probation service.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State has recently approved proposals for the further development of the Northern Ireland probation and after-care service including its expansion from a present strength of about 100 Probation Officers to over 200 by 1982.I am arranging for copies to be placed in the Library of a document explaining the proposals.

    Employment

    Wool Carding Machines

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many accidents occurred in 1974, 1975, 1976, and 1977 on carding machines used in the wool textile industry which could be attributed to the inadequacy of the guarding of those machines; of those accidents, how many were investigated by Her Majesty's Factory Inspectorate; and of those investigated, how many machines had been guarded to the standard recommended by the Joint Standing Committee for the wool textile industry in their notes of guidance published in January 1974.

    The number of accidents which occurred in 1974, 1975 and 1976 on carding machines used in the wool textile industry which could be attributed to the inadequacy of the guarding of these machines was:

    1974135
    1975112
    197684
    The figure for 1976 is unreliable since it was affected by industrial action taken by some members of the Civil Service who refused to complete statistical returns during the year.The number of accidents for 1977 is not available. It was agreed by the Wool JSC in October 1977 that future returns of accidents should be on a five-yearly basis, not on an annual basis.The number of accidents investigated by Her Majesty's Factory Inspectorate for each of the years in question was as follows:

    197483
    197578
    197644
    197739
    The numbers of machines which were found by Her Majesty's inspector during those investigations to be guarded to the standard set out in the notes of guidance published in 1974 were as follows:

    19741
    19751
    19764
    19776

    Unemployed Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, of those persons who have been unemployed since leaving school, how many have been currently unemployed for, respectively, six months, one year, 18 months, two years and over two years; and what the figures are for Birmingham, Glasgow, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, Aberdeen and Inverness.

    The following table gives the numbers of school leavers under 18 years of age registered as unemployed in the areas specified at 9th March. There is no separate analysis for school leavers giving the length of time on the register.

    Travel-to-work-areaUnemployed school leavers
    Birmingham616
    Glasgow3,219
    Newcastle-upon-Tyne1,217
    Liverpool3,956
    Manchester721
    Aberdeen91
    Inverness102
    Great Britain37,639

    Apprenticeship Schemes

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many firms in the engineering industry which employ skilled men have never set up in their own establishments apprenticeship sections.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that information is not available in the form requested. However, I understand that of the 31,441 places available for the first year off-the-job training of engineering apprentices, 15,730 were provided by engineering companies, the remainder being in colleges of further education, group training associations and Engineering Industry Training Board centres.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in post war years, any appeal has been made by the Government to the Confederation of British Industry that it should initiate a campaign within its own movement for the setting up of apprenticeship schemes in all industrial establishments, including, in particular, engineering, where skilled men and women are employed.

    Successive Governments have urged employers to train enough apprentices to meet their long-term needs. During the current recession the Government have made resources available to safeguard that aim. The Manpower Services Commission, on which the Confederation of British Industry is represented, is, with Government approval, implementing an action programme to ensure that skill shortages should not arise through inadequate training of apprentices and other trainees.

    Health And Safety

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list those with whom he has consulted in the public sector on health and safety matters; what priority has been given in these talks to additional resources being required to implement these plans and what priority was given to these being made available.

    The Government consider that the present allocation of resources to bodies in the public sector is sufficient to enable them to meet fully all their existing obligations under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974, including their obligations under the safety representatives and safety committees regulations coming into force on 1st October 1978.In so far as regulatory measures under the Act are concerned, their development is the policy responsibility of the Health and Safety Commission, and before submitting proposals for any such measures to the Government for approval, the Commission is required to carry out appropriate consultations with Government Departments and other bodies concerned. The bodies consulted will, of course, vary according to the nature and intended application of particular proposals but, where appropriate, those responsible for the allocation of resources to public sector bodies likely to be affected are included. This ensures that their views on the proposals and on their priority and expenditure implications can be taken into account before they are approved and brought into operation.I understand, that, as my right hon. Friend the Minister of State for Social Services said on 14th April in reply to a Question by my hon. Friend, discussions are about to start between the Health and Safety Executive and officials of the Health Departments on the results of a pilot study which has been carried out in this area of employment. Similar studies are being carried out in other sectors of employment newly brought within the scope of health and safety legislation and the results of these studies will also be the subject of discussion with departments and bodies concerned.

    Females

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many females are registered for employment in Great Britain to the latest available date; and what were the figures for each year to 1970.

    The following table gives the numbers of unemployed females registered for employment in Great Britain at March each year from 1970:

    March 197084,754
    March 1971110,025
    March 1972144,442
    March 1973113,784
    March 197488,191
    March 1975135,646
    March 1976272,079
    March 1977338,613
    March 1978384,587

    Thanet

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current percentage of people unemployed in the Thanet area; and how this compares with the national average.

    At 9th March the rate of unemployment in the area covered by the Margate, Ramsgate and Sandwich employment offices was 9 per cent. compared with 6 per cent. for Great Britain.

    Job Release

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when the rules of the extended job release scheme will be available.

    The rules of the scheme for the extended period from 1st April 1978 to 31st March 1979 have now been produced and I have arranged for a copy to be placed in the Library.

    Short-Time Work (Compensation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he has any plans to introduce a permanent scheme for compensating workers on short-time as recommended by the Manmade Fibres Sector Working Party in its report on the industrial strategy.

    Yes. We have today issued a consultative document containing proposals for such a scheme, on which we wish to have the views of all interested parties. Copies are available to hon. Members from the Vote Office, or may be obtained on request from my Department.

    Overseas Development

    Aid

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development if she will specify the type of aid made available by her Department to the Zambian Government.

    A £5 million grant made to Zambia in 1976 is fully committed. The greater part of it has been spent on essential imports of United Kingdom machinery. The Zambian Government have very recently accepted a further offer of loans totalling £9·26 million which will be used for further essential imports from Britain in the transport and agricultural sectors. In addition, aid funds amounting to about £2 million a year are being used to repay IBRD loans to Zambia for the Kariba North Bank power station project.There is also a programme of technical co-operation for Zambia currently running at about £8 million a year which provides primarily for the supplementation of salaries of 1,000 British staff in the Zambian public service and also for the provision of a small number of fully funded experts and the training in the United Kingdom of about 150 Zambians a year.

    Transport

    Motorways (Repairs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether, in view of the substantial increase in traffic accidents which occur when major motorway repair operations are instituted, he will examine ways and means of improving the safety factors for such operations.

    The Department promotes good practice in the layout and signing of motorway roadworks by giving advice based on thorough re- search We are always looking to see what more can be done.

    Driver And Vehicle Licensing Centre

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport (1) whether he has yet received the communication sent by the hon. Member for Newham, North-West of 6th April making complaints of the inefficiency of the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre, Swansea; whether he will publish this letter together with his reply; and when he expects to send the reply;(2) in view of the fact that the officials at the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre, Swansea, have wrongly described a 1966 Morris Minor as an Allegro 1500, which has caused annoyance and costs to the owner, Mr. Ray Neall, what action he has taken, or intends taking, against those responsible for these continuing failures; and what compensation he intends paying to Mr. Neall;(3) whether he is aware that a further instance of maladministration on the part of the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre, Swansea, has been recorded in a case where Mr. P. L. J. Mahiques had to wait for an extremely long time for his documents and that his car was wrongly classified as a lorry and wrongly classified as regards the cylinder capacity, the colour and registration number; what action has been or will be taken against those responsible; and how many mistakes have been made since January 1978;(4) whether he is aware that Mr. Henry Gadsky, of Warwickshire, applied to Swansea for registration documents for the registration of his car but that, after seven months, dozens of letters and telephone calls he was still waiting until he sent a rudely addressed letter and has now received three seperate registration documents in three separate letters, by three consecutive posts; what was the reason for this maladministration; and what were the costs involved.

    I have written to my hon. Friend, and I have no objection to his publishing my letter. As for the three particular cases to which my hon. Friend refers, these have all been the subject of newspaper reports. I assume that the individuals concerned will get in touch with me through their own Members of Parliament if they have a continuing grievance. I regret any mistakes that have been made at the centre. There has been a substantial improvement in its performance, and I am sure that this will continue.

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will change the decision taken by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre at Swansea that, if vehicle documents held by local offices show that a vehicle has not been taxed for a period of 12 months, the files for that vehicle should be destroyed, which is creating problems for the police in addition to owners of vehicles who keep their cars for a year inside a garage.

    No, the files have already been destroyed: in my answer of 14th March 1978 to the hon. Member for Bury St. Edmunds (Mr. Griffiths)—[Vol. 946, c. 183]—I gave details of the type and number of vehicle records involved and explained that the decision was taken after consultation with the Home Office and the Association of Chief Police Officers. However, I should stress that arrangements already exist for conversion of these vehicles to the centralised system through local vehicle licensing offices; and, where the old-style "log book" can be produced, no special problems should occur in relicensing.

    Vehicle Registration Document Error

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport when the vehicle registration document for Ford truck mixer PVX853R, the property of Lagan Valley Builders, Ltd., Dromore, County Down, issued by error over two months ago as for a private saloon, will be corrected; and if he will make a statement explaining the circumstances.

    A fresh registration document for the Ford truck mixer PVX853R has now been despatched to Lagan Valley Builders Ltd. I understand that though a mistake was made in describing the vehicle as a saloon—this has now been corrected—the vehicle was registered by the former keeper in the "Private" taxation class. We have advised the present keeper on the procedure for relicensing it as a goods vehicle.

    Environment

    East Midlands (Review Document)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has received a copy of the second edition of the East Midlands Economic Planning Council's regional review document—"East Midlands—A Forward Economic Look".

    I have received a copy of the document, which should provide a useful basis for discussion by all the interested parties of problems and opportunities in the region. I shall await with interest the council's consideration of the comments which it has invited from other bodies.

    Enforcement Notices (Appeals)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many reports of inspectors at local inquiries in regard to appeals against enforcement notices he has received upon which he has made no decision; what is the longest he has had such a report upon which he has not yet delivered his decision.

    Water Rates

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in the light of the hardship which may be caused to retirement pensioners as the result of the increased charges under water rates, whether he will take steps to enable increased water rates to be subject to the same concessions obtained through the rate rebate system through the local authority.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report. 17th April 1978], gave the following answer:The rate rebate scheme is designed to help people who have difficulty paying the rates levied by local authorities. Water services charges are charges in the same sense as those levied by other public utilities, and thus are quite separate. They have not been eligible for rate rebate since the implementation of the Water Act 1973. Water services charges are, of course, taken into account in the calculation of supplementary benefits.

    National Finance

    Child Allowances (Children Overseas)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, when discussing with persons and organisations the possibility of the maintenance of tax allowances for children overseas, or the payments of child allowances for children overseas, he will consider granting these requests where irrefutable proof that the children are legitimately in existence and are the offspring of the parents making the claims or, where adoptions have been claimed, the proof is produced; and to what extent he estimates that false claims have been made for non-existent children or for children of persons other than the claimants' for the longest and most convenient stated period of time.

    As my right hon. Friend the Minister of State told the House on 13th April, we propose that the special rate of child tax allowances for the parents of certain children living abroad should continue for the time being. Claims will continue to be subject to the procedures for verification described in my recent answer to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Howell) on 12th April.In 1968 the Public Accounts Committee reported upon the Inland Revenue survey of claims to personal allowances by immigrants from the Indian subcontinent, which suggested that over one-half of those claims were false. No further survey has been undertaken, but the Inland Revenues experience of the birth and marriage certificates subsequently checked, and of cases investigated, indicates that false claims have continued at a significant level, although at a lower level than was shown by the 1968 report. In the last two years around one-third of certificates in support of claims for children living abroad which have been examined by the Inland Revenue have been found to be unacceptable.

    Income Tax Debts (Warrant Sales)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many warrant sales were carried out on behalf of the Inland Revenue in Scotland in each of the last five years in respect of unpaid income tax debts for individual householders.

    Tax Thresholds

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost in terms of lost revenue if tax thresholds, after taking into account the value of tax-free child benefits where appropriate, were restored to their 1949–50 ratio with average male manual earnings; and what would be the value of income tax thresholds for each, of a single person, a married couple, and married couples with each of one, two, three and four dependent children.

    In order to include the effect of the Budget proposals, a notional estimation of earnings in 1978–79 has been made as follows: on the basis that a man on average earnings in October 1977 had not yet received an increase in the current pay round, it has been assumed that his earnings will rise by a further 10 per cent. in October 1978 in accordance with the Government's guideline.On this basis the income tax thresholds required in 1978–79 to maintain the ratio between tax thresholds in 1949–50 and average earnings of full-time male manual workers in October 1949 would be as follows:

    TAX THRESHOLD REQUIRED TO RESTORE 1949–50 RATIO BETWEEN THRESHOLD AND AVERAGE MANUAL EARNINGS
    £
    Single person1,662
    Married couple without children2,671
    Married couple with 1 child3,397
    Married couple with 2 children4,123
    Married couple with 3 children4,849
    Married couple with 4 children5,575
    It is estimated that this would cost approximately £5,600 million in 1978–79, assuming the implementation of the Budget proposals.The tax thresholds for 1949–50 used in the calculations take account of earned income relief and the relief given for employees' national insurance contributions.

    The calculations allow for the change from taxable family allowance to tax-free child benefit. Child benefit in 1978–79 is the average over the year, including the increase announced in the Budget Statement and due to take effect from November 1978.

    Living Standards

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the increases in real living standards to 31st March 1979 after the Budget changes, and any changes in national insurance contributions, assuming an increase in pre-tax earnings for each person of 10 per cent. and an inflation rate of 8 per cent. to 31st March 1979, for (a) a single and (b) a married person earning £2,000, £3,000, £3,500, £4,000, £5,000, £6,000, £7,000, £8,000, £9,000, £10,000 £12,000, £14,000, £15,000, £17,000, £19,000, £20,000, and £25,000, respectively.

    On the assumptions noted, the annual percentage increases in real net income in 1978–79 would be as follows:

    1977–78 IncomeSingle PersonMarried Couple
    (£)Per cent.Per cent.
    2,0003·83·0
    3,0002·92·7
    3,5002·62·4
    4,0002·42·3
    5,0002·12·0
    6,0001·61·5
    7,0001·71·6
    8,0002·11·9
    9,0002·32·1
    10,0002·32·2
    12,0002·62·4
    14,0002·32·2
    15,0002·12·2
    17,0002·02·0
    19,0002·01·9
    20,0002·01·9
    25,0001·81·8
    Net income is gross income less tax and national insurance contributions.

    Capital Allowances (Buildings)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the annual revenue cost of extending capital allowances, at present available for industrial buildings, to new buildings erected henceforth in the categories (a) all commercial buildings not at present covered, (b) agricultural buildings, (c) hotel buildings, (d) retail buildings, and (e) office buildings, assuming current rates of new construction.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave him on 24th January—[Vol. 942, c. 518.]

    Expenditure

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proportion of the gross national product is spent by the Government; and how much is spent by each Department.

    Central Government expenditure as defined in the national income accounts was 40½ per cent. of the gross domestic product (GDP) in 1976–77. The table below shows, also as a proportion of GDP Supply expenditure in that year by Departments; where one Minister is responsible for several Departments these are grouped together. Total Supply expenditure amounted to 29½ per cent. of GDP in 1976–77. Most of the remaining Central Government expenditure was on national insurance benefits—some 6½ per cent. of GDP—and gross debt interest payments—some 3 per cent. All these figures include transfers and loans to local authorities, public corporations and the private sector for spending by them as well as direct expenditure by central Government.

    Central Government supply expenditure 1976–77 by Ministerial responsibility
    As a percentage of GDP at market prices
    Environment18·5
    Social Services6·9
    Defence4·5
    Scotland1·8
    Industry1·1
    Education and Science1·1
    Home0·9
    Chancellor of the Exchequer0·8
    Employment0·7
    Trade0·5
    Overseas Development0·5
    Northern Ireland0·4
    Wales0·4
    Prices and Consumer Protection0·3
    Agriculture, Fisheries and Food0·3
    Energy0·2
    Foreign and Commonwealth0·1
    Other0·3
    1 Includes the Department of Transport.

    International Monetary Fund

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what reply he received from the managing director of the International Monetary Fund to his letter dated 15th December 1977.

    I assume that the hon. Member is referring to my right hon. Friend's letter of 14th December 1977 to Mr. Witteveen.As my right hon. Friend told the hon. Member on 24th March 1977 in answer to a similar Question, it is not customary for the managing director to reply to such letters. However, the executive board of the IMF approved the continuation of the standby arrangement for the United Kingdom, as the letter requested.

    Personal Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether he will publish in the Official Report, for 1973–74 and for 1978–79, figures comparable to those

    (a)(b)(c)(d)(e)(e)
    Gross weekly earningsIncome tax payableEmployee's national insurance contributionsNet income (including family allowance child benefit)Real net income at 1973–74 pricesReal net income October 1977 prices
    ££££££
    1. AVERAGE EARNINGS
    1973–7444·807·302·6035·8035·8069·30
    1978–7990·00*18·005·9071·3034·5066·60
    2. TWICE AVERAGE EARNINGS
    1973–7489·6020·702·9066·9066·90129·30
    1978–79180·00*49·307·80128·1061·90119·70
    3. THREE TIMES AVERAGE EARNINGS
    1973–74134·4035·902·9096·5096·50186·50
    1978–79270·00*95·607·80171·8083·00160·60
    * See Note 2.
    Notes:
    1. For 1973–74 the figures have been calculated on the same basis as those given for the years 1973–74 to 1977–78 in reply the hon. Member for Norfolk, South (Mr. MacGregor)—[Vol. 944, cols. 269–70; Vol. 945, col. 182.].
    2. For 1978–79 average earnings have been notionally estimated as follows. On the basis that in October 1977 a man on average earnings had not yet received an increase in the current pay round, it may be assumed that his earnings will rise by a further 10 per cent. to October 1978 in accordance with the Government's guideline. It is assumed that the retail prices index will rise by 7 per cent. over the same period. It has been assumed that he is not contracted out of the graduated pension scheme. The rates of tax, national insurance contribution and child benefit are those proposed for 1978–79, averaged over the whole year.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of average male national earnings was represented in 1973–74 and 1977–78, and is estimated to be represented in 1978–79 by the income tax threshold for a single person, married couple and a married

    given in his replies to the hon. Member for Norfolk, South (Mr. MacGregor). Official Report, 15th February 1978, col. 268 and 28th February 1978, col. 182 for ( a) a figure for actual or estimated average adult male earnings, ( b) the amount of tax payable on such a level of earnings by a married man with two children under 11 years of age, ( c) the amount of employee's national insurance contribution, ( d) the residual net income adjusted for child benefit, and ( e) the real purchasing power of the residual net income as adjusted for inflation since 1973–74, together with similar figures for persons with twice and three times average earnings.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 12th April 1978], gave the following information:The figures are as follows:couple with one, two, three and four children, on a basis comparable with Written Answer,

    Official Report, 20th July 1977, c. 579–81.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 12th April 1978], gave the following information:

    The figures are as follows:

    TAX THRESHOLD AS A PERCENTAGE OF AVERAGE EARNINGS

    Per cent.

    Single person

    Married couple

    Married couple with 1 child under 11

    Married couple with 2 children under 11

    Married couple with 3 children (2 under 11, 1 between 11 and 16)

    Married couple with 4 children (2 under 11, 2 between 11 and 16)

    1973–7428·036·445·851·357·964·3
    1977–7824·938·444·349·855·961·7
    1978–79*23·636·841·145·149·754·0

    * See Note 2 below.

    Notes:

    1. The figures have been calculated on the same basis as those given in reply to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Howell)—[Volume 935, cols. 579–81]—except that the figures for 1977–78 have been revised to take account of the figure of average earnings of full-time male manual workers in October 1977. As previously, family allowances and child benefit have been included in the annual equivalents of average earnings where appropriate.
    2. For 1978–79 the annual equivalent of average earnings has been notionally estimated as follows. On the basis that in October 1977 a man on average earnings had not yet received an increase in the current pay round, it may be assumed that his earnings will rise by a further 10 per cent. to October 1978 in accordance with the Government's guideline, it is assumed that the retail prices index will rise by 7 per cent. over the same period.
    3. The tax thresholds are those proposed in ihe Budget speech and child benefit is the amount receivable in the whole year.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in the light of 1978–79 tax rates and allowances, he will publish a table in the Official Report showing, for 1973–74 and 1978–79 the effective rate of tax plus social security contributions for a man with two children aged under 11 years of age having income, all earned, equivalent to the national average earnings, twice the average and three times the average, on a

    EarningsEffective rate of tax plus social security contributions Per cent.
    1973–74Average earnings21·6
    Twice average earnings26·1
    Three times average earnings28·7
    1977–78Average earnings24·4
    Twice average earnings30·4
    Three times average earnings37·4
    1978–79 (see Note 2 below)Average earnings25·0
    Twice average earnings30·8
    Three times average earnings37·6
    Notes:
    1. The figures have been calculated on the same basis as those given in reply to the hon. Member for Aylesbury (Mr. Raison)—[Vol. 938, col. 272–3]—except that the figures for 1977–78 have now been based on average earnings in October 1977.
    2. For 1978–79 average earnings have been notionally estimated as follows. On the basis that in October 1977 a man on average earnings had not yet received an increase in the current pay round, it may be assumed that his earnings will rise by a further 10 per cent. to October 1978 in accordance with the Government's guideline. It is assumed that the retail prices index will rise by 7 per cent. over the same period. The rates of tax and national insurance contributions are those proposed for 1978–79.
    3. It has been assumed that the employee is not contracted out of the graduated pension scheme in 1973–74 and 1978–79.

    basis comparable with that given in his reply to the hon. Member for Aylesbury (Mr. Raison) in the Official Report, 11th November 1977, c. 272.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 12th April 1978], gave the following information:The figures for the married man with two children under 11 are as follows:

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table on the same basis as his reply to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Howell)—Official Report, 2nd December 1977, c. 462, showing the effective rates of income tax plus national insurance contributions for each of a single person, a married couple, and a married couple

    TAX AND NATIONAL INSURANCE CONTRIBUTIONS AS A PERCENTAGE OF AVERAGE EARNINGS, PLUS FAMILY ALLOWANCE/CHILD BENEFIT WHERE APPROPRIATE
    Per cent.
    Single personMarried coupleMarried couple with 2 children aged under 11Married couple with 4 children aged under 11
    1960–6119·014·06·83·2
    1964–6523·418·49·75·1
    1973–7428·225·821·618·6
    1977–7832·228·124·421·1
    1978–79 (see Note 2 below)31·927·925·022·4
    Notes:
    1. The figures for 1973–74 and earlier years have been calculated on the same basis as those given in reply to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North (Mr. Howell)—[Vol. 940, cols. 461–2], and the hon. Member for Horsham and Crawley (Mr. Hordern)—[Vol. 939, col. 268].
    2. For 1978–79 average earnings have been notionally estimated as follows: On the basis that in October 1977 a man on average earnings had not yet received an increase in the current pay round, it may be assumed that his earnings will rise by a further 10 per cent. to October 1978 in accordance with the Government's guideline. It is assumed that the retail prices index will rise by 7 per cent. over the same period. The figures of tax, national insurance contributions and child benefit are those for the whole year.

    Capital Transfer Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) in view of the fact that the Chancellor of the Exchequer has admitted that doubts have been expressed about the incidence of capital transfer tax on heritage under Scots law, if he will consider taking steps to identify this point, either by legislation or by directive.(2) in view of the fact that he is aware of the doubts expressed about the incidence of capital transfer tax on heritage under Scots law, if he will consider taking action, so that the administration of certain estates need not be held up by the executors who do not know on whom the burden of tax will fall.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 10th April 1978], gave the following information:The Inland Revenue has been advised by Scottish counsel that where there is a specific bequest of an item of heritable property and the will is silent as to the incidence of the tax, the burden of capital transfer tax attributable to the value transferred by the bequest falls to be

    with two and four children under 11 years of age, assuming average male manual earnings in each case in 1960–61, 1964–65, 1973–74, 1977–78 and 1978–79.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 12th April 1978], gave the following reply:The figures are as follows:borne by the legatee; the amount of the tax is a debt to be paid out of the heritable property; and the executor is entitled to recover it from the person or persons in whom the property has vested. Capital transfer tax attributable to the value transferred by a specific bequest of an item of movable property is a testamentary expense, the burden of which falls to be borne by the residuary estate unless there is a direction in the will to the contrary.As foreshadowed in my answer of 7th March to the hon. Member, the position is therefore the same as for estate duty, but to assist executors the Inland Revenue will be publishing this advice. In the circumstances, legislation does not appear to be necessary.

    Pay Policy

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequor what discussions he proposes to have with the TUC on future pay policy.

    I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Member's Budget Statement.

    Income Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the number of tax payers who will pay tax in the 25 per cent. band only.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 17th April 1978], gave the following information:About 4 million, counting earning wives separately.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Diplomats' Children (School Fees)

    54.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many children of diplomats have their school fees paid from public funds; and what is the age range of the children involved.

    Allowances to help meet the cost of education at boarding schools in the United Kingdom are at present being paid for 1,805 children of diplomatic service staff. Payment can be authorised from the age at which children are accepted for boarding education—usually between 7 and 8—and must cease after the term in which a child reaches the age of 19.At posts overseas where no suitable State education is available for diplomatic service children but where suitable fee-paying day schools exist, payment of fees to these schools can be authorised for children from the age of 5 up to the nineteenth birthday.

    Cyprus

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish, in the Official Report, the comments of the Minister of State when representing Her Majesty's Government in the Turkish zone in Cyprus; and if he will make a statement.

    I have arranged for copies of comments I made in both the Turkish and Greek areas of Cyprus to be put in the Library. The Turkish Cypriot proposals for a Cyprus settlement were handed to Dr. Waldheim in Vienna on 13th April. I have not yet received details, and it is too soon to say whether they will lead to an early resumption of the intercommunal talks. The Government certainly hope so and that rapid progress will be made towards a just and lasting settlement.

    Hong Kong

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he expects to receive the report of Professor H. A. Turner on labour relations in Hong Kong; and if he will publish the report.

    Professor Turner now hopes to complete his report by late summer. As for publishing it, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to our hon. Friend the Member for Liverpool, Scotland Exchange (Mr. Parry), on 25th January.—[Vol. 942, c. 667.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether he will make a statement on Hong Kong's public housing construction programme for the year 1978–79.

    In 1978–79 public housing completions will exceed 20,000 units designed to accommodate over 127,000 people. The Hong Kong housing authority will let 50 other new contracts—including seven for the Government's home ownership scheme—valued at HK$1,600 million (£185·6 million) to provide 48,600 flats.

    Disarmament (United Nations Special Session)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will announce the names of the non-governmental organisation representatives in the official delegation of the British Government to the United Nations Special Session on Disarmament.

    My right hon. Friend is very pleased that the right hon. the Lord Noel-Baker has accepted his invitation to join the official British delegation to the special session. He will advise the delegation on policy, with particular regard to the views of non-governmental organisations active in disarmament in the United Kingdom.

    Photocopying Charges

    asked the Attorney-General why photocopying charges by solicitors are limited to 10p per copy by the Lord Chancellor's Department when county courts charge 25p per copy.

    Photocopying charges by solicitors are not fixed by the Lord Chancellor's Department. Those recoverable as part of the costs of litigation are prescribed by the Rule Committee. The amount prescribed for a photocopy on scale 4 is 25p per A3 page, which is the same as the fee charged under the county court fees order for a photographic copy of a document produced by the court. The solicitor's charges for photocopies are somewhat lower for smaller sizes of paper and on scales 1, 2 and 3.When copies are produced by the court, the court officials have to extract the originals from the court file. Sometimes the court is also involved in the extra work of examining the copy and marking it as an office copy for which no additional charge is made.

    Director Of Public Prosecutions

    asked the Attorney-General if he is satisfied with the way in which the Director of Public Prosecutions has discharged his duty as prosecuting authority in the case of Mr. Charles Lowe.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 23rd March 1978; Vol. 946, c. 673], gave the following information:Having studied the case of Charles Thomas Lowe I am satisfied with the way in which the Director of Public Prosecutions discharged his duties in that case.

    asked the Attorney-General if he will refer the case of Mr. Kieran McCormack to the Director of Public Prosecutions with a view to prosecution for complicity in the robbery of three loads of whisky in January 1973.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 23rd March 1978; Vol. 946, c. 673], gave the following information:The Director of Public Prosecutions has considered the case of Kieran McCormack and has decided, for reasons with which I concur, not to institute criminal proceedings against him in respect of the matter to which the hon. Member's Question refers.

    asked the Attorney-General if he will refer the case of Mr. Charles Lowe to the Director of Public Prosecutions with a view to prosecution for obtaining a Rolls-Royce by fraud, conspiracy to import cannabis, and credit and cheque frauds.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 23rd March 1978; Vol. 946, c. 673], gave the following information:The Director of Public Prosecutions is not aware of any evidence against Charles Thomas Lowe of conspiring to import cannabis. The Director has considered the other matters to which the hon. Member's Question refers and has decided, for reasons with which I concur, not to institute criminal proceedings against him in respect of them.

    Defence

    Aircraft Crash (Thetford)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the latest crash of a United States Air Force aircraft near Thetford; and if he will make a statement on the remedial action which has been taken to prevent further accidents.

    The accident occurred in the afternoon of Wednesday 29th March when two F-111 aircraft of the United States Air Force 48 Tactical Fighter Wing were returning to their base at Lakenheath after a routine training mission. The aircraft entered the airfield circuit when it appears that they were both struck by lightning at about 1,800 feet above ground level. One of the aircraft managed to land safely and was found to have been badly burned. The other, according to eye witnesses, went into a steep dive and crashed into woods belonging to the Forestry Commission near Brandon in Suffolk. The crew of the aircraft—Captain Charles H. Ketchell, a pilot, and Captain Jeffrey T. Moore a weapons systems officer—did manage to eject, but I regret to say they did not survive. I should like to extend my deepest sympathy to the United States Air Force and to the families of the two officers. There were no other casualties either Service or civilian but there was some damage caused both to the forest and also to a nearby minor road. The aircraft was unarmed.The United States Air Force had convened a board of inquiry, and I cannot prejudge its verdict. However, as on the face of it lightning would appear to be the main reason for the accident, immediate remedial measures to prevent a repetition would not be appropriate in this instance.

    Armed Forces (Mileage Allowance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what rate per mile is paid to personnel of the Armed Forces when using their own cars for travel between their homes and their place of duty.

    4·1p per mile less a personal contribution of 25p per day—maximum £1·25 per week—towards the cost of such travel.

    Rapier Missile System

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what efforts have been made to sell the Rapier defensive missile system to the United States of America for airfield defence.

    It has been the policy of successive Governments not to reveal information about sales or potential sales of defence equipment to individual countries.

    Jaguar Aircraft (Baor)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence, if he has any plans for reducing the numbers of Jaguar aircraft currently deployed within RAF Germany.

    It is not the normal practice to reveal details of aircraft strengths.

    Disturbance Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the maximum disturbance allowance allowed to an officer and a soldier, respectively, assuming two children of school age, on taking up a posting (a) within the United Kingdom and (b) overseas; what is the comparable figure in respect of a Ministry of Defence civilian; and whether any allowance is payable for moving a car to the new posting.

    The maximum disturbance allowance for an officer with two children of school age on posting either within the United Kingdom or overseas is £375. The corresponding amount for a soldier with two children is £311. There is no exact civilian equivalent to disturbance allowance, but a civil servant with two children would receive a transfer grant of about £800 on posting to a new duty station.A motor mileage allowance at the public transport rate is payable to a service man for driving a car to his new unit on posting within the United Kingdom. If his wife also owns a car, motor mileage allowance may be claimed for both cars. Except in the case of a few clearly defined posts, there is no entitlement for a Service man to move a car at public expense to or from an overseas posting, but the cost of doing so is taken into account in the assessment of local overseas allowances. A civil servant posted overseas may ship his car to and from the overseas station at public expense, and also has an entitlement to move his car and his wife's, where she owns one, at the public transport rate on posting within the United Kingdom.

    Service And Civilian Personnel (Pay And Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what is the net effect on the salary of a captain in the Army on being posted from the United Kingdom to the Federal Republic of Germany, taking into account local overseas allowance less, accommodation, fuel and light charges; and what would be the comparable net figure for a Ministry of Defence civilian on a similar salary scale to the captain, taking account both of foreign service allowance and of charges for accommodation, fuel and light at the same rate as for the captain;(2) if he will publish the formula whereby the local overseas allowance is established for Service men, together with the formula used to calculate the foreign service allowance of Ministry of Defence civilians; and if he will list any fringe benefits that are available to one category but denied to another.

    Local overseas allowance—LOA—is designed to meet the "essential extra expenditure" incurred by a member of the Services overseas in maintaining the same standard of living as in the United Kingdom.Foreign service allowance is paid at rates appropriate to the area to Ministry

    Gross payLOAPSAAccommodation chargeFuel and light
    £££££
    Single Captain4,9692,486391
    Married Captain4,9692,960737372
    Single Civilian(4,969)1,445
    Married Civilian(4,969)2,880
    Because the captain has deductions both at home and overseas for accommodation and fuel and light and the civilian has neither, the net effect on emoluments of a posting to Germany is the addition of LOA or FSA as appropriate.

    Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the total increase or decrease in defence expenditure for the years 1979–80 and 1980–81 between Command Paper No. 6721 and Command Paper No. 7049; and how far, in this context, he regards this as fulfilling in reality and in spirit the call by the President of the United States of America and other NATO allies for a 3 per cent. increase in real terms in defence expenditure from 1979.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the table and accompanying text to be found on pages 2 and 3 of Volume II of Cmnd. 7049.

    Baor

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is currently the total number of United Kingdom citizens with British Forces in Germany, together with comparable figures for 1972, in respect of each of the following categories (a) Servicemen and women, (b) their families, (c) civilian personnel employed by his Department or the Property Services Agency, and (d) their families.

    of Defence civilians serving in that area. It is designed to meet the extra cost of maintaining a standard of living suited to the overseas area. Both allowances are paid free of tax.

    Conditions of service differ between civil servants and the Services in many ways and reflect the disparities between the two kinds of career. Unless comparisons are made in that context they cannot be very meaningful.

    The following table compares the position of a single and a married accompanied Army captain with a civilian on a similar salary scale:

    The most up-to-date figures are as follows:

    31st December
    19721977
    (a) Service men and women*70,60069,500
    (b) Dependants88,40087,600
    (c) United Kingdom based MOD civilian employees2,2502,428
    (c) United Kingdom based PSA civilian employees231299
    (d) Dependants of MOD civilian employees†2,6912,500
    * Including personnel based in Germany but serving in Northern Ireland on emergency tours.
    † No figures are available for dependants of United Kingdom based PSA civilian employees.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the estimated stationing costs of British Forces in West Germany for the year 1979–80; how this compares with costs for 1971–72 and 1976–77; and what offset costs were paid or are due to be paid by the Federal German Republic in each case.

    Local defence expenditure in Germany in 1979–80 will depend upon pay and price levels and the exchange rates prevailing over the year. For the current year 1978–79 this expenditure is estimated in the "Statement on the Defence Estimates 1978" (Cmnd 7099) at £574 million. This compares with £169 million in 1971–72 and £521 million in 1976–77, at the pay and price levels and exchange rates prevailing in the years in question. Defence Estimates for 1978–79 make provision for offset receipts from the Federal German Government equivalent to £85 million at August 1977 exchange rates. This compares with offset receipts in 1971–72 equivalent to about £13 million, based on the exchange rates that obtained in that year. 1976–77 was not directly covered by any offset arrangements.

    Naval Personnel

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish the monthly figures since April 1975 to date of those serving in the Royal Navy who have given 18 months' notice of their intention to leave the Service.

    The following is the information:

    RN RATINGS GIVING 18 MONTHS NOTICE (1) (4) SINCE APRIL 1975
    1975
    April—June (2)192
    July—September311
    October—December289
    1976
    January—March361
    April—June (2)398
    July53
    August211
    September32
    October677
    November381
    December228
    1977
    January295
    February329
    March393
    April239
    May301
    June292
    July256
    August276
    September277
    October349
    November267 (3)
    December164 (3)
    1978
    January124 (3)
    February166 (3)
    (1) The following groups of RN ratings are eligible to give notice subject to return of Service rules:

  • (a) ratings with more than nine years service from age 18 or date of entry whichever is later;
  • (b) ratings on initial notice engagements who have completed at least 18 months service from age 18 or end of initial training whichever is later;—notice engagements were introduced in May 1972 and the numbers eligible to give notice under these conditions were still increasing at the beginning of the period of the table;
  • (c) ratings on initial career engagements who have completed at least three years service from age 18 or end of initial training whichever is later, and have then transferred to a notice engagement; this scheme became available in October 1976 and there was a peak of notice giving at this time by ratings who made use of the new scheme as soon as it was introduced.
  • (2) Monthly data is not available before July 1976.

    (3) Provisional.

    (4) Men who give notice may later be allowed to withdraw it. The current withdrawal rate is approximately 25 per cent.

    Service Personnel (Housing Possession)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now take steps to place members of Her Majesty's Forces who are home owners on the same footing as civil servants, in respect of payments from public funds towards the legal fees and accommodation costs when returning from a posting overseas or elsewhere within the United Kingdom and being unable to obtain repossession of their homes.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Woking (Mr. Onslow) on 8th February 1978.—[Vol. 943, c. 597.]

    Baggage And Furniture Allowances

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the free baggage and furniture allowance, in weight, and the rate of excess charge for officers, Servicemen and Ministry of Defence civilians, respectively on 1st April 1974 and 1st April 1978; and what percentage increase or decrease this represents.

    The entitlements to free passage of baggage and furniture and charges for excess baggage vary considerably according to theatre, rank and circumstances of the individual concerned. I will write to the hon. Member as soon as possible.

    Service Families (Education And Health Facilities)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the cost to the Defence Vote of facilities for Servicemen and their families that for a civilian family living in the United Kingdom would be provided, respectively, by the Department of Education and Science, the Department of Health and Social Security or any other Department of Government.

    I would refer the hon. Gentleman to Table 4 of Annex A of the 1978 "Statement on the Defence Estimates" (Cmnd 7099), which gives the following estimate for 1978–79 of social expenditure included in the Defence Budget:

    Education94
    Married accommodation79
    Medical services127
    Service pensions397
    Total697