Written Answers To Questions
Monday 8th May 1978
Overseas Development
Sri Lanka
36.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what were the results of the review of aid to Sri Lanka carried out in December 1977.
As a result of the mission's recommendations we propose to provide £12 million of new project aid for Sri Lanka and to increase our maintenance grant there from £3 million to £5 million. We have also agreed to finance a comprehensive consultancy to help plan and cost the large Victoria irrigation and power project which will form the first part of the Accelerated Mahaweli Development Scheme and, in the light of the outcome of the consultancy, to offer help to finance the project.
Middle East
40.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development if she proposes to visit the developing countries of the Middle East.
My right hon. Friend has no plans to visit the Middle East at present but I recently visited Jordan and the Yemen Arab Republic, where I saw British aid projects and discussed our aid programmes, and Saudi Arabia where I had discussions on co-operation with Arab aid agencies and on possibilities for paid technical co-operation.
Development Council (Luxembourg Meeting)
39.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what progress was made at the recent meeting of the Development Council in Luxembourg on aid to non-associates.
The Council agreed on a regulation to govern aid to non-associates, subject to conciliation proceedings with the European Assembly. Aid is to go in general to the poorest countries, and their poorest people, with priority for rural development and improving food production. This is of course very much in accord with United Kingdom aid policy.
The Council also agreed on general guidelines for the 1978 programme for non-associates; and agreed in principle to contribute 31,000 tonnes of dried skimmed milk and 12,700 tonnes of butter oil this year to help develop the dairy industry in India under Operation Flood II.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development if she will make a statement on the recent meeting of the EEC Development Council in Luxembourg.
The main outcome was the decisions concerning aid to non-associates outlined in my earlier reply today to my hon. Friend the Member for West Bromwich, West (Miss Boothroyd). There was also a general exchange of views on the volume and distribution of aid.
Ethiopia
41.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development how much overseas aid the Government propose to give to Ethiopia in the current financial year.
Existing bilateral aid commitments to Ethiopia will produce spending of about £1·6 million this year. The main element is a rural water supply project. No new projects have been approved in the last year.
Departmental Staff
asked the Minister of Overseas Development how many posts in her Department at assistant secretary level are filled by members of the professional and scientific categories of civil servants and how many by members of the administration group.
Twenty-three assistant secretary posts in London are filled by members of the administration group, of whom two have transferred from the professional and scientific groups, and one is filled by a member of a professional group.
asked the Minister of Overseas Development how many of the development divisions in her Department are headed by members of the professional and scientific categories of Civil Service staff.
None of the five Development Divisions overseas is currently headed by a member of the professional or scientific categories of the Civil Service.
Home Department
Zoos And Safari Parks
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what statutory powers are available to Government and local authorities to investigate and take action on allegations of neglect or mistreatment of animals and birds kept in zoos and safari parks.
Such allegations would suggest that offences under the Protection of Animals Act 1911 or the Protection of Animals (Scotland) Act 1912 might have been committed. The primary responsibility for enforcing those Acts rest on the police. There are no other relevant powers available to central or local government.
Football Hooligans
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is his estimate of the cost of damage to property by football hooligans in 1974, 1975, 1976 and 1977.
Information on which to base an estimate is not available.
National Front (March)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis on the National Front march from the West of London to Hoxton on 1st May, during which marchers carried offensive weapons.
The Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis tells me that there was a National Front march from Langham Place to Hoxton Market on the afternoon of 1st May. There was no disorder, and there were no reports of breaches of the law relating to offensive weapons.
Albany Trust (Grant)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he proposes to reply to the letter sent on 18th January by the right hon. Member for Huntingdonshire about the Home Office grant to the Albany Trust; and whether he will make a statement.
I have written to the right hon. and learned Member.
Animal (Experiments)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will consider the appointment of a statutory advisory committee to adjudicate on questionable research using live animals, to promote the concept of alternatives and to stimulate inquiries into the whole field of animal experimentation.
No. Since 1913 my predecessors and I have been advised by the non-statutory Advisory Committee on the Administration of the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 on proposals presenting difficult issues in connection with the exercise of the powers under that Act. I do not think that legislation to establish a statutory advisory committee would be justified or that such a committee is required for the other purposes mentioned.
Private Security Firms
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the response of his Department to the representation of the hon. Member for Walsall, South on the need to licence the private security industry.
I am aware of the careful study which my hon. Friend has made of this subject, and of the proposals which he has put forward. To facilitate wider discussion I intend to publish a paper setting out the information which is available, the arguments submitted by my hon. Friend and others, and the important issues which are raised by proposals for control over private security activities.
Bail
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Surrey North-West, on Tuesday 2nd May, whether he will consider making the relevant changes in the reasons for granting bail form, at the earliest opportunity, in order that in those cases where defendants are granted conditional bail, the penalties for absconding are clearly stated for the defendants to know.
I shall consider in the light of experience whether a change in the prescribed form is desirable. But I have no reason yet to believe that the arrangements I described in the reply to which the hon. Member refers are not working satisfactorily, and I believe it would be wrong to make precipitate changes in the implementation of an Act so recently brought into force.
Trade
Air Traffic (Orkney And Shetland)
28.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what will be the increase in air traffic at Sumburgh Shetland and Grimsetter Orkney airports over the next five years.
There were 398,000 passengers at Sumburgh in 1977; the aerodrome is being developed to cater for 800,000 passengers a year.At Kirkwall—Grimsetter—there were 112,000 passengers in 1977, and there are expected to be 134,000 in 1982.
Common Fund
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether the recent preparatory meeting of UNCTAD at Minister level has completed preparations for a further full meeting on the Common Fund; and whether he will make a statement on the progress of negotiations on the Common Fund.
There was no substantial discussion of the Common Fund at the meeting, at ministerial level, of the UNCTAD Trade and Development Board on 6th to 11th March. Informal consultations are, however, in progress on the possibility of resuming the negotiations on the Common Fund. The Commonwealth ministerial meeting in London on 13th-14th April may have improved the prospects for such a resumption.
Animals (Experiments)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list types of animals which were imported into the United Kingdom over each of the last five years for the purpose of research experimentation; what regulations govern their importation; and if he will make a statement.
Animals imported for research experimentation are not separately distinguished in the trade statistics. So far as my Department is concerned, any live animal may be freely imported into the United Kingdom under the provisions of the open general import licence; that is, without the need for an individual import licence. The Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, and the Department of the Environment have powers to licence imports of animals in order to prevent disease and for conservation purposes respectively.
Shipping Companies
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether, in view of the current world shipping recession, he will take steps to help those United Kingdom shipping companies which may otherwise have to sell their ships.
By agreement with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Industry, and in consultation with the clearing banks, I am prepared to consider the limited extension of Government guarantees given on loans made under Section 10 of the Industry Act 1972. I intend to make this facility available to companies which have short-term problems, and no recourse to other sources of finance, but which are expected with the aid of such moratoria to be able to come through this recession as viable entities.
Steel Pipes
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what percentage of Great Britain's requirement of large diameter steel pipes is imported from Japan.
The information is not available. Trade statistics only identify separately imports of tube and pipe up to 152 mm in internal diameter and tube and pipe exceeding 152 mm. Statistics of United Kingdom deliveries of tubes and pipes from home production collected and published by the Iron and Steel Statistics Bureau are not analysed by diameter. It is only possible to calculate import penetration for pipes and tubes as a whole.
Aircraft Noise (Soundproofing Grants)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what has been the total level of central Government expenditure on soundproofing grants for (a) public, and (b) private buildings surrounding each of the United Kingdom's civil airports in each of the last five years.
None. Sound insulation grants schemes, whether made by central Government under Section 29A of the Civil Aviation Act 1971 or by airport authorities, are financed by the airport authority concerned.
South Africa (European Companies)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what arrangements he has now made to monitor compliance by United Kingdom firms with the EEC code of conduct for European companies with subsidiaries in South Africa; and in what way he intends to report the results of such monitoring to the House.
The code provides for annual report by companies and annual reviews by Governments. We intend that these reports will be thoroughly assessed and the results published.
Architects (Statistical Survey)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will make a statement in respect of his recent statistical survey into the architectural profession; how many firms were sent questionnaires; and what is his estimate of the time required to be spent on these for satisfactory completion.
I would be grateful if the hon. Member would write to me indicating to which survey he is referring.
Aircraft Equipment
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will specify the rate of duty payable on components bought from the United States of America for incorporation into an aircraft being built in Great Britain for sale to British Airways for service on international routes.
As I informed the hon. Member for Hastings (Mr. Warner) in reply to a similar Question on 14th February 1978—[Vol. 944, c. 177–8.]—no Customs duty is payable on aircraft engines, parts of engines and airframe parts intended to be fitted to aircraft built within the United Kingdom. As regards other components bought from the USA for constructing British aircraft for delivery to United Kingdom airlines, Customs duties are chargeable at the rate appropriate to the components concerned, except where they are suspended on an annual basis by means of an EEC Council regulation when such items are not produced within the Community.
Seals
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what products and derivatives from harp and hooded seals are imported into the United Kingdom; for what purpose; and in what quantities.
Imports of harp and hooded seals and their products are not separately distinguished in the United Kingdom overseas trade statistics. 41,345 complete furskins of sealions, fur seals and other seals were imported in 1977.
Prices And Consumer Protection
Sand And Ballast
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what steps he proposes to take to make it illegal, in accordance with EEC Directive 770/76, to sell sand and ballast in cubic yards; and how many lorries used for transporting sand and ballast are calibrated in cubic yards.
The Units of Measurement Regulations 1978 (SI 1978 No. 484) which came into operation on 27th April implement that part of EEC Directive 76/770. The regulations cease to authorise the use of a number of units including the cubic yard for sand and ballast. The directive generally requires the cubic yard to be phased out with effect from 31st December 1977 but there are provisions allowing the continued use of existing equipment. In accordance with this the regulations provide for the continued use, for the purposes of transactions in ballast—including sand—or agricultural materials, of existing measures of ¼ cubic yard or any multiple thereof until 31st December 1978, provided that such measures have been passed as fit for use for trade and officially stamped before 27th April 1978.No information is available about the number of lorries calibrated in cubic yards but since the authorisation of measures of 0·2 cubic metre and multiples thereof in January 1971, an increasing number of lorries have been calibrated in cubic metres.
Spiller French (Bakery Closures)
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection why he did not approach the larger independent millers and plant bakery companies, in particular, Messrs. Bugbrooke Mills' Fine Lady Bakeries, to buy the 23 Spillers bakeries to be closed.
The circumstances in which the Government were told of the imminent withdrawal of Spillers from baking—at very short notice and in confidence—required us to accept Spillers assessment that there was no possible alternative to the plan it proposed. The company specifically told us that it had considered—but had ruled out—the possibility of a sale to independent bakeries of the plants that were to be closed.
Coffee
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection what is currently the maximum permitted mark-up by the grocery trade for instant coffee.
Profit margins on instant coffee are not separately controlled under statutory powers. The voluntary agreement limiting margins on certain coffee lines ended in February. Margins on instant coffee in the grocery trade are therefore those resulting from the operation of normal market forces. Retailers margins generally remain subject to the Price Code.
Departmental Staff
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection how many inspectors are employed by his Department; and what is the total annual salary and expenses required to pay this inspectorate.
My Department does not employ inspectors.
Environment
Domestic Heating
30.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress his Department is making in its talks on the problem of those houses and flats which have only one source of heating; and whether he will treat them as urgent, in view of the high and increasing cost of domestic electricity.
I can assure the hon. Member that the Department is giving urgent attention to the problems arising with heating in some public sector dwellings as a result of high electricity bills. I would refer the hon. Member to my comments during the recent Adjournment debate on 20th April on council housing and insulation—[Vol. 948, c. 853–64]—and the answer I gave him on 8th March 1978.—[Vol. 945, c. 637.] At present, there is nothing further I can add.
31.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the Government's policy with regard to the installation of domestic heating controls.
The Government advocate the installation of domestic heating controls where these will be cost effective for the householder. A leaflet was issued last year. I am sending the hon. Member a copy.
Building Society Lending
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion of the £157 million allocated for building society lending on the nomination of local authorities is likely to be taken up in 1977–78.
About two-thirds.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the operation of the scheme under which local councils nominate people for building society mortgages; and if he will make a statement.
I am continually seeking ways to improve the operation of the scheme, with the co-operation of the local authorities and the building societies. Several important measures are being introduced in 1978–79:
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish his Department's monitoring survey of the building societies' support lending 1977–78.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave the hon. Member for Melton (Mr. M. Latham) on 13th April 1978.
Rate Support Grant (Northamptonshire)
32.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what reply he has given to the complaint on rate support grant in a letter dated 28th April from the leader of the Northamptonshire County Council with support from all political parties and teachers' organisations that Northamptonshire has been unfairly treated in the grant distribution formula.
I replied to this letter today saying that I would be prepared to see a deputation from Northamptonshire to discuss the distribution of rate support grant.
Liverpool Street And Broad Street Stations (Redevelopment)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has received any proposals for the redevelopment of Liverpool Street station; and whether he will make a statement.
I called in proposals submitted in 1976 by the British Railways Board to demolish and redevelop Liverpool Street and Broad Street stations as one new station, with improved Underground and bus interchanges, offices, shops and community facilities. A public inquiry was held and I am presently considering the inspector's report. I shall make a statement when I issue my decision on this scheme.
Local Authority Contingency Reserve Funds
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he issues any guidance to local authorities as to the amounts it is proper or desirable for them to put into contingency reserve funds.
No. This is entirely a matter for the individual authority.
Thermal Insulation (Commercial And Industrial Premises)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why he has still not introduced building regulations to provide for minimum standards of thermal efficiency in the non-housing sector; and when he hopes to do so.
My right hon. Friend is now satisfied with the legal and technical requirements of this proposed legislation, and the laying of the Statutory Instrument will follow.
Mortgages
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if any discussions have been held between his Department and building societies resulting in restrictions on new advances more than the 10 per cent. reduction already announced.
No.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what further advice he has given to building societies on the amount by which they should cut back on mortgages beyond a 10 per cent. reduction from the sum advanced last December.
The agreement with the Building Societies Association related to a reduction in the second quarter of 1978 of about 10 per cent. in the monthly guidline level previously agreed for the first half of 1978. The Government have given no advice about a further reduction.
Flood Relief
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he remains convinced that his 75 per cent. contribution to local authority flood relief payments was of realistic help to the stricken areas; and if he will make a statement;(2) whether he will now give his estimate of the damage caused by the January floods on the East Coast; how many applications for 75 per cent. contributions from central Government he has received; how many he has paid; how many remain in the pipeline; and what is the latest date at which his Department will consider further claims.
I would refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to his Questions on 14th March.—[Vol. 946, col. 167.]—To date, I have received one application for financial assistance in respect of damage caused by the January floods on the East Coast and my Department is discussing this with the local authority concerned. I see no reason yet to set a latest date for the consideration of claims.
Windscale Inquiry
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what conclusions the Government have reached on the recommendations contained in chapter 17.8 of the inspector's report on the Windscale inquiry; and if he will make a statement.
The recommendations fall into three categories; those addressed to British Nuclear Fuels Ltd. (BNFL); those directed to the Government for modifications to existing control arrangements for environmental protection and safety, and those which call for organisational changes. The Government accept immediately all the 12 recommendations in the first two categories. We also accept entirely the underlying purpose of the remaining three recommendations in the last category.I set out below the Government's detailed response to each of the recommendations.
Recommendations for BNFL. In the first category, BNFL has agreed to design the oxide reprocessing plant (THORP) so that a
krypton removal plant can be incorporated when and if reasonably practicable, and to pursue vigorously the requisite research and development (No 2). A condition to this end will be attached to the discharge authorisation under the Radioactive Substances Act 1960. It also accepts that facilities should be made available for whole-body monitoring of local people. It already has two on-site facilities for monitoring employees, and plan to instal a third. BNFL expects to be able to make a full monitoring service available to the general public well before THORP comes into operation (No 3). The provision of such a facility will, if necessary, be made a condition of the discharge authorisation (No 4).
As the inspector emphasised, BNFL is very safety conscious. It accepts the need for strict observance and frequent rehearsal of safety precautions and operating procedures, and will continue to review and improve them. All the safety arrangements are subject to approval and surveillance by the Nuclear Installations Inspectorate (No. 11). Regular exercises are held to give practice to all those responsible for implementing the Windscale emergency plan and BNFL will assist all the authorities concerned in ensuring that the requirements for action are fully understood (No. 13). The structure and functions of the local liaison committee will be reviewed as recommended (No. 14).
Environmental protection and safety. The second category recommends modifications to the existing control arrangements for environmental protection and safety. The authorising Departments already set quantative limits for liquid wastes for each significant radionuclide, as recommended in No. 7. In their response to the Sixth Report of the Royal Commission on Environmental Protection, the Government announced that clear quantitative standards would be applied at atmospheric discharges as well (Cmnd 6820) Annex A, Paragraph 3). Operators are required to show in the first place that a discharge cannot reasonably be avoided, and it is our policy that unavoidable discharges must be restricted so that radiation doses to the public are kept as far below internationally recommended limits as is reasonably practicable. (No. 7).
My Department has begun an examination of the provisions of the Radioactive Substances Act 1960 relating to inquiries into proposed discharge authorisations (No. 8).
The adequacy of existing monitoring arrangements for all discharges, not only those to the atmosphere, is being reviewed by an expert group led by the Department of the Environment (No. 9). The Government have undertaken (Cmnd 6820, paragraph 27) to publish annual surveys of discharges and the National Radiological Protection Board (NRPB) will continue to publish periodic reports on radiation exposure. The delay in publishing Fisheries Radiobiological Laboratory reports has been caused by the need to give priority to the deployment of the limited number of qualified staff to the control of monitoring of discharges. In order to overcome delays steps will be taken which will involve further recruitment (No. 10).
The working methods of the Nuclear Installations Inspectorate are under review, as recommended in the Sixth Report of the Royal Commission. The NII already has substantial scientific expertise on its staff and through consultants. The Health and Safety Executive will, however, make sure in the course of the review that they are adequately equipped to assess the design of THORP (No. 12).
The Government can give an assurance that for the foreseeable future the majority of fuel flasks will continue to be delivered to Windscale by rail (No. 15). Strict safety regulations for flasks and vehicles governing design, construction, labelling and the protection of operators and the public are laid down by the Secretary of State for Transport.
Organisational changes. The third category comprises recommendations for more fundamental organisational changes. The Government accept the principle that security measures at Windscale should be checked by an independent person not involved in their design or operation, and will examine how best to put the recommendation into effect (No. 1). There are, however, wider security implications which need further consideration before detailed arrangements can be worked out.
The inspector recommended a single inspectorate to be responsible for determining and controlling all radioactive discharges (No. 5). Pending the Government's decision on the unified pollution inspectorate recommended for England and Wales in the Fifth Report of the Royal Commission, the Radiochemical Inspectorate of my Department will, in collaboration with the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, be responsible to Ministers for the tasks described by the inspector, namely:
In Scotland, Her Maiesty's Industrial Pollution Inspectorate will discharge similar responsibilities.
The Government agree that it is vital that the public should have complete confidence in the standards of radiological protection on which discharge authorisations are based. As a first step to cover the inspector's recommendation to include an independent person or body with environmental interests in the system for advising them on the fixing of these standards, the review of the constitution of the National Radiological Protection Board initiated by the Secretary of State for Social Services in pursuance of a recommendation in the Sixth Report of the Royal Commission has been extended to cover this recommendation as well (No. 5).
ANNEX
Details of recommendations contained in Chapter 17.8 of the Inspector's Report on the Windscale Inquiry.
"1. Consideration should be given to charging some independent person or body with the task of ( a) vetting security precautions both
at Windscale and during transit of plutonium from Windscale and ( b) reviewing the adequacy of such precautions from time to time.
2. BNFL should devote effort to the development of plant for the safe removal and retention of krypton 85 and, if development proves successful, should incorporate it in the proposed plant.
3. More permanent arrangements for whole body monitoring of local people should be instituted. Subject to certain general principles, the details should be agreed by those directly concerned. They would not be appropriate to planning conditions.
4. The authorising departments should however consider whether provision of such facilities should be made a condition of authorisations to discharge.
5. Consideration should be given to the inclusion of some wholly independent person or body with environmental interests in the system of advising central government on the fixing of radiological protection standards. That person or body should probably be changed from time to time.
6. A single Inspectorate, as recommended by the Royal Commission, should be responsible for determining and controlling all radio active discharges.
7. There should be specific discharge limits for each significant radionuclide. The onus should be placed clearly on the operator to show that a discharge cannot practicably be avoided before the limits are fixed.
8. The provisions of the Radioactive Substances Act 1960 relating to the powers to hold inquiries into proposed authorisations to discharge should be re-examined.
9. The relevant authorities should carry out more monitoring of atmospheric discharges.
10. FRL should publish their annual reports more rapidly in future. There should, as recommended by the Royal Commission, be one comprehensive annual survey published of all discharges and at intervals, reports by NRPB on radiation exposure.
11. BNFL should do more, in future, to ensure that safety precautions and operating procedures at Windscale are sufficient for all eventualities, are strictly observed and are continually rehearsed.
12. The current review of NII should examine whether they are sufficiently equipped with scientific expertise to check the designs for the proposed plant.
13. It is essential that those who would be required to take action under the Windscale emergency plan are fully aware of the responsibilities the plan places on them.
14. The local liaison committee should be reorganised and its functions redefined.
15. Fuel flasks should, as far as possible, continue to be delivered to Windscale by rail, but this is not a matter appropriate to planning conditions."
Inner Urban Areas
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on which districts he proposes to designate under the Inner Urban Areas Bill.
As I have already informed the House. I propose to designate all the partnership and programme districts. These are:(
partnership districts)
- Hackney
- Islington
- Lambeth
- Greenwich
- Lewisham
- Newham
- Southwark
- Tower Hamlets
- Birmingham
- Liverpool
- Manchester
- Salford
- Newcastle-upon-Tyne
- Gateshead
( programme districts)
- North Tyneside
- South Tyneside
- Sunderland
- Middlesbrough
- Bolton
- Oldham
- Wirral
- Bradford
- Hull
- Leeds
- Sheffield
- Wolverhampton
- Leicester
- Nottingham
- Hammersmith
I have also reviewed the claims of other districts and have considered very carefully the available evidence including the many submissions that have been made to me. As in the selection of partnership and programme authorities, I have taken into account a range of factors that illustrate the scale and intensity of social and economic deprivation in the possible candidate districts. But since the Inner Urban Areas Bill is primarily concerned with helping the economy of inner areas and with bringing back into use vacant and derelict sites, I have placed particular emphasis on the unemployment rate and the amount of dereliction to be found in each district. In the light of these considerations, I propose to designate, in addition to those listed above, the following 14 districts and London boroughs:
- Hartlepool
- Blackburn
- Rochdale
- Sefton
- St. Helens
- Wigan
- Barnsley
- Doncaster
- Rotherham
- Sandwell
- Brent
- Ealing
- Haringey
- Wandsworth
Building Societies (Safeguards For Investors And Mortgagors)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that adequate safeguards exist to protect both investors in building societies and mortgagors; and if he will make a statement on this subject in the light of the recent crash of the Grays Building Society.
I have been asked to reply.These are matters which we shall be considering when inquiries into the irregularities at the Grays Building Society are completed. In the meantime the Building Societies Association has undertaken that Grays shareholders and depositors will not lose their money. The arrangements being made to implement this undertaking take fully into account the interests of mortgagors.
Industry
Steel Pipes
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what date will the first British plant for the mass production of steel pipes of large diameters be in production.
The British Steel Corporation already manufactures large diameter pipes at Hartlepool, Stockton and Clydesdale. There are also private sector facilities for producing such pipes at Motherwell and Ipswich. Expenditure is at present being incurred by the British Steel Corporation on enhancing facilities at the 44-in diameter pipemill at Hartlepool.
Sperm Oil Substitutes (Research)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will indicate the progress made into research into substitutes for sperm oil with the support of his Department; and when a report will be published.
For some time now my Department has been involved in promoting research into substitutes for sperm oil. In 1975 my Department commissioned the British Leather Manufacturers' Research Association to carry out a study into the properties of sperm oil and its application in the leather industry, culminating in the publication of a report in July 1976 entitled "The Utilisation of Sperm Oil in the Leather Industry", a copy of which is available in the House of Commons' Library. My Department is now funding through the Garments and Allied Industries Requirements Board a further BLMRA study on sperm oil and available substitutes; its final report is due this autumn.
Development Boards
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement about the membership of the English regional industrial development boards.
I have recently reviewed the membership of the Northern, North-West, South-West and Yorkshire and Humberside Industrial Development Boards. Below is a list of the current members of each board.I am glad to take this opportunity to pay tribute to the excellent work done by those who give up their time to serve on these boards.SOUTH-WEST INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD
Chairman
D. M. Gillespie—Joint Managing Director, Olivers (Barnstaple) Ltd.
Members
A. Bennett JP—Chairman, South-West Regional Council, TUC. Member, Union of Construction and Allied Trades and Technicians.
R. R. Cawthorne, MBE, MRSH, M.Inst.M—Managing Director, North Devon Meat Ltd.
G. D. K. Foale, FCA—Bishop Fleming & Co., Chartered Accountants.
K. A. Gilbert—Director, Geevor Tin Mines Limited.
R. G. King—District Secretary, Amalgamated Union of Engineering Workers, Plymouth.
P. E. Neale, FIB—Area Manager, North Devon and Cornwall, National Westminster Bank.
R. G. Parkin, FIS, FCA, BA(Econ)—Finance Director, Compair Construction and Mining Ltd.
I. R. Sutherland, BSc, MIMC—Managing Director and Chief Executive, Silley Cox & Co. Ltd.
NORTHERN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD
Chairman
R. A. Cookson, CBE—Former Chairman, Associated Lead Manufacturers Ltd. Director, Lloyds Bank Ltd.
Members
G. T. Arnold, JP—Chairman, Northern Regional Council of the TUC. Divisional Organiser, Amalgamated Union of Engineering Workers. Member, Northern Economic Planning Council.
P. Baines, FCIS—Former Commercial Director of Albright and Wilson Ltd.
G. R. Chetwynd, CBE—Board Member, BSC (Industry) Ltd. Member, Northern Economic Planning Council.
P. H. Crowther, C.Eng., M.Inst, F.MBIM, FRSA, Chairman, Local Board, Vickers Limited Engineering Group, Newcastle upon Tyne.
G. D. Dixon—District Delegate, The Amalgamated Society of Boilermakers, Shipwrights, Blacksmiths and Structural Workers. District Secretary, Tees Area Confederation of Shipbuilding and Engineering Unions.
D. J. Grant—Managing Director, Darchem Ltd. Member, Northern Economic Planning Council. Member, CBI Northern Regional Council.
J. R. Mackay, OBE—Former Director, Swan Hunter Group, previously Partner, Peat, Marwick, Mitchell & Co.
Professor W. G. McClelland, MA, MBA. FBIM—Former Director, Manchester Business School.
L. R. Mann—Managing Director, Victor Products (Wallsend) Ltd.
G. Russell—Managing Director, Alcan (UK) Limited.
Dr. A. W. C. Taylor, BSc, FRIC—Former Chairman, Petrochemicals Division, ICI Ltd. Chairman, Tees & Hartlepool Port Authority.
A. G. Thompson, BSc, M.Inst.P—Managing Director, Henry Cooke Ltd.
NORTH WEST INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD
Chairman
L. C. Young—Deputy Chairman and Managing Director, J. Bibby & Sons Ltd. Member, North-West Economic Planning Council
Members
W. H. Aldritt, JP—Regional Secretary, Liverpool, North Wales and Irish Region, General & Municipal Workers Union. Member, North-West Economic Planning Council.
C. M. Barnett—Secretary, North-West Regional Council of the TUC. Divisional Officer, National Union of Public Employees. Member, North-West Economic Planning Council.
R. B. de Zouche, FCA—Wilson, de Zouche and Mackenzie, Chartered Accountants. Vice Chairman, Merseyside Chamber of Commerce and Industry. Member, North-West Economic Planning Council.
G. M. D. Drummond, FCA—Deputy Chairman, Trind Ltd.
D. G. Farrar—Chairman North-West Regional Council TUC. Regional Secretary, Transport and General Workers' Union Member, North-West Economic Planning Council. Member, North-West Regional Board, National Enterprise Board.
F. S. Gibbs, BSc.(Eng), C.Eng, FIMech.E, FIEE—Managing Director, GEC Switchgear Ltd.
G. N. Hague, FCIS—Chairman & Managing Director, Welwyn Garments Ltd. Member, North-West Economic Planning Council.
T. D. Parr—Chairman, & Managing Director, Thomas Marshall Investments Ltd.
D. Perry, BSc.—Chairman, UML Limited.
L. J. Trolley, CBE, C.Eng, FIProd.E—Chairman, Renold Ltd.
YORKSHIRE AND HUMBERSIDE INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT BOARD
Chairman
G. N. S. Horsley—Chairman and Managing Director, Northern Foods Ltd.
Members
F. N. Booth—Regional Secretary, General and Municipal Workers' Union. Member, Yorkshire & Humberside Economic Planning Council.
D. B. Clark—Managing Director, Beatson Clark and Co. Ltd.
Dr. R. Gill, BSc, ARIC—Managing Director, Allied Colloids Ltd.
J. M. Goymour—Managing Director, David Brown Tractors Limited.
E. Hayhurst, OBE, JP—Regional Secretary, Transport and General Workers' Union.—Member, Yorkshire & Humberside Economic Planning Council.
J. H. Hooper—Chairman and Managing Director, Armstrong Equipment Ltd. Member, Yorkshire & Humberside Economic Planning Council.
J. Lyles—Chairman, S. Lyles, Sons & Co. Ltd.
T. McDonald, FCA—Armitage & Norton, Chartered Accountants.
C. Russell, Smith—Managing Director, Allied Textile Companies Ltd.
St Ives, Cornwall
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many new jobs have been created in the St. Ives parliamentary division since 1973; and what proportion these jobs represent as a percentage of the growth in the working population of the area during the same period.
In the period from August 1972 up to 28th February 1978, offers totalling £686,000 were made under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 in aid of 15 projects in the St. Ives division expected to provide 540 jobs. 124 of those jobs had been created by 28th February 1978; that is about 12·6 per cent. of the growth in the working population in the St. Ives division, excluding Hayle, during the three years ending June 1976.Other new employment is expected to have been created as a result of regional development grants paid under Part I of the Industry Act; and from other Government schemes of assistance to industry.
Interest Relief Grants
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what arrangement he has made for interest relief grants for small firms; what are the qualifying terms for such grants; what moneys have so far been expended on such grants; and how much has been associated with principal loans from the European Investment Bank.
Small firms may qualify for interest relief grants for projects with employment benefits in the assisted areas under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972, and for grants available through sectoral schemes under Section 8. Statistics of the assistance provided are not broken down by size of firm. Under the scheme announced on 15th December 1977, up to £20 million is available in loans from the European Investment Bank for seven years at 7½ per cent., plus 1 per cent. for a guarantee against the exchange risk. Several applications from small firms—that is under 200 employees—are under consideration.
Loans And Grants
asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what was the total expenditure on regional grants and assistance granted to the St. Ives parliamentary division in 1976 and 1977; what amount this represents as expenditure for each member of the working population; and what was the comparable figure for the United Kingdom as a whole;(2) what was the total expenditure on regional grants and assistance to the Cardiff, South-East parliamentary constituency in 1976 and 1977; what amount this represents as expenditure for each member of the working population in the area; and what was the ocmparable figure for the United Kingdom as a whole.
Loans and grants have been offered as selective financial assistance
| Assistance offered £'000 | Assistance per head of working population £ | |||||||
| 1976— | ||||||||
| St. Ives Parly Divn (excluding Hayle Employment Office Area) | … | … | … | … | … | … | 412 | 20·3 |
| Cardiff Employment Office Area | … | … | … | 480 | 3·3 | |||
| Great Britain (5 main Assisted Areas) | … | … | … | 139,388 | 13·6 | |||
| 1977— | ||||||||
| St. Ives (excluding Hayle Employment Office Area) | … | — | — | |||||
| Cardiff Employment Office Area | … | … | … | 1,204 | 8·3 | |||
| Great Britain (5 main Assisted Areas) | … | … | 125,872 | 12·3 | ||||
| Other assistance has been made available by way of regional development grants under Part I of the Industry Act. | ||||||||
Co-Operative Development Agency
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if the chairman of the Co-operative Development Agency is to be a full-time or part-time job; and what salary is proposed.
The working group on a Co-operative Development Agency, whose majority recommendations we accepted as the basis for the proposals now before Parliament, suggested that the chairman should make the chairmanship of the Agency his main, but not necessarily his only, business. Paragraph 8 of the schedule to the Co-operative Development Agency Bill provides that the salary should be determined with the approval of the Minister for the Civil Service. Consultations are currently in progress and I will let the House know the outcome as soon as a decision has been reached.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what qualifications and attributes he will be seeking when appointing the chairman of the Co-operative Development Agency.
We shall be seeking a chairman whose experience and personal qualities make him the most suitable person for the job. The appointee will need to have all the characteristics of a good chairman, and to contribute to the range of experience of the Agency's membership as a whole. As the working group said in paragraph 37 of its report, (Cmnd 6972) the chairman must be someone acceptable to the co-operative movement
under Sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act 1972 as follows:
as a whole, command its confidence and be capable of engaging the attention of Ministers and their Departments.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what method of selection is proposed for the chairman of the Co-operative Development Agency; and if nominations will be invited from co-operative organisations by public advertisement.
In selecting the chairman of the Agency, and indeed the other members of the board, my right hon. Friend intends to proceed as envisaged in paragraph 35 of the report of the Working Group on a Co-operative Development Agency (Cmnd 6972) that we have accepted as the foundation on which the Agency will be built. The Co-operative Development Agency Bill currently before the House stipulates that the chairman and other members of the Agency shall be appointed by the Secretary of State after consultation with persons appearing to him to represent the interests of the co-operative movement. It follows that this is the method my right hon. Friend shall use.
Concorde
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his latest estimate of the development and production costs of Concorde, and production receipts; and what is the net Government commitment to production expenditures.
The latest estimate of the manufacturers' total development costs in Britain and France is £1,137 million. The expenditure is divided as follows
| British expenditure £ million | French expenditure £ million | Both countries £ million | ||||||
| Actual costs from 29th November 1962 to 31st December 1977 at the prices and exchange rates prevailing when the costs were incurred | 532 | 530 (6,302 Fr. million) | 1,062 | |||||
| Estimated costs from 1st January 1978 to completion of programme at January 1978 prices and at an exchange rate of £1=9·0 francs | … | 43 | 32 | 75 | ||||
| Totals | … | … | … | … | … | 575 | 562 | 1,137 |
| Britain £ million | France Fr. million | |||||||||
| Actual costs to 31st December 1977 at the prices and exchange rates prevailing when the costs were incurred | … | … | … | 306 | 2,920 | |||||
| Estimated costs from 1st January 1978 to 31st December 1978 at January 1978 prices and at an exchange rate of £1=9·0 francs | 46 | 410 | ||||||||
| Totals | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 352 | 3,330 |
| Britain £ million | France Fr. million | |||||||||
| Actual receipts to 31st December 1977 at prices and exchange rates prevailing when income was received | … | … | … | 119 | 1,437 | |||||
| Estimated receipts from 1st January 1978 to 31st December 1978 at January 1978 prices and at an exchange rate of £1=9·0 francs | 20 | 52 | ||||||||
| Totals | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 139 | 1,489 |
Government Strategy
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he is satisfied with the progress being made in the implementation of the Government's industrial strategy.
I refer the hon. Member to the answer my right hon. Friend gave the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Thames (Mr. Lamont) on 10th April. Sector working parties are currently engaged in communicating the results of their work to individual companies in their respective sectors.
between actual past expenditure and estimated future expenditure.
France. This is divided as between actual past expenditure and estimated future expenditure as follows:
to the end of 1978 is £139 million in the United Kingdom and 1,489 million francs in France. This is divided as between actual past receipts and estimated future receipts as follows:
British Shipbuilders
asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) how many people are now employed in the central administration of British Shipbuilders;(2) what management charges have been levied by the central administration of British Shipbuilders; and what these charges represent.
These are matters for British Shipbuilders.
National Enterprise Board (Grants And Loans)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list in the Official Report the names of the firms that have received grants or loans from the National Enterprise Board since its formation, the amounts of money that were granted or loaned to each on their initial application and any subsequent sums that were made available to them.
This is a matter for the NEB.
National Enterprise Board (Investments)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list the National Enterprise Board's investments in the East Midlands and the West Midlands regions, respectively, giving the name and location of the companies involved.
The Board has investments in the following companies in these regions:
East Midlands
- British Leyland Ltd., Leicester.
- British Leyland Ltd., Grantham.
- Herbert Ltd., Lutterworth.
- Rolls-Royce Ltd., Derby.
- Rolls-Royce Ltd., Hucknall.
- Rolls-Royce Ltd., Leicester.
- Sandiacre Electrics Ltd., Nottingham.
- Systems Programming Holdings Ltd., Nottingham.
West Midlands
- British Leyland Ltd., Coventry.
- British Leyland Ltd., Solihull.
- British Leyland Ltd., Birmingham.
- British Leyland Ltd., Wolverhampton.
- Herbert Ltd., Birmingham.
- Herbert Ltd., Coventry.
- Hydaroll Ltd., Birmingham.
- ICL Ltd., Kidsgrove.
- ICL Ltd., Bradwood, Staffs.
- Packaging Methods Ltd., Northampton.
- Rolls-Royce Ltd., Coventry.
- Twinlock Ltd., Birmingham.
Sperm Oil Substitutes (Research)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether, following his Department's research into substitutes for sperm oil in industry, he will state which substitutes have been found to be suitable and for which uses.
In 1975 my Department commissioned the British Leather Manufacturers Research Association to carry out a study into the properties of sperm oil and its application in the leather industry, culminating in the publication of a report in July 1976 entitled "The Utilisation of Sperm Oil in the Leather Industry", a copy of which is available in the House of Commons' Library. My Department is currently supporting a further study at BLMRA on substitutes for sperm oil in the lubrication of leather. This project is not due for completion until the autumn when a full report will be issued.
Regional Development Grants
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what steps he is taking to reduce the delay in paying regional development grants; and if he will take steps to pay interest to claimants in cases where payment is unreasonably delayed.
Over the life of the regional development grant scheme the average time taken to process applications has been 13 weeks. The average time taken at present has been 15 weeks and I do not regard this situation as requiring special measures, particularly as the position is kept under constant review. If the hon. Member has a particular case in mind, I would be happy to investigate it.Payment of interest would not be appropriate because more public expenditure would be involved and because payments of grant are discretionary and it is not possible to define a date when they fall due. General rules describing "unreasonable delay" would not therefore be appropriate.
Manufacturing Investment
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his Department's latest estimate of the probable level of investment in manufacturing industry in the next 12 months.
My Department's latest investment intentions survey, carried out in November and early December of last year, indicated an increase in the volume of investment by manufacturing industry of between 10 per cent. and 13 per cent. in 1978 over 1977. The latest estimate of investment for 1977 is £1,761 million at 1970 prices.
National Finance
North Sea Oil And Gas Revenue
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asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take further steps to encourage public discussion on the proper allocation of funds from North Sea oil and gas.
The recent publication of the White Paper "The Challenge of North Sea Oil" has made an important contribution to the public debate on the use of the North Sea oil revenues. I and my ministerial colleagues will continue to take appropriate opportunities to explain the Government's priorities for the use of the North Sea oil benefits. In the longer term, the annual progress report which the Government intend to publish will give a sound basis for informed public debate on our progress towards the objectives set out in the White Paper.
Post-War Credits
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he plans any changes in the arrangements for repaying income tax post-war credits.
Yes. The great majority of those entitled to claim payment of post-war credits have now been repaid since the general release in 1973. Only relatively small numbers of claims continue to reach the Inland Revenue, but the organisation to deal with them is costly in staff, office accommodation and storage space for war-time records. This is particularly true of claims made by claimants who are unable to produce a PWC certificate so that the Revenue has to try to trace the relevant details of the claimant's war-time earnings.The Government consider that it would now be reasonable to set a time limit for claims not supported by certificates and have decided that uncertificated claims, if they are to be accepted, must be submitted by the end of this year. A Statutory Instrument setting 31st December 1978 as the final date for the acceptance of such claims will be laid shortly. This change relates only to uncertificated claims; claims accompanied by one or more PWC certificates will continue to be accepted after 31st December 1978 until further notice.
Capital Gains Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the estimated revenue effect in 1978–79 and in a full year of altering the capital gains tax provisions contained in Clause 35 of the Finance Bill so that all taxable amounts in excess of £5,000 for an individual in any year of assessment were to be chargeable at a maximum rate of 30 per cent. instead of 50 per cent.
If subsection (3) of Clauses 35 were amended so as to limit an individual's liability on net gains exceeding £5,000 in a year of assessment to £600 plus 30 per cent. of the excess over £5,000, it is estimated that the cost of the clause would become £22 million in 1978–79 and £95 million in a full year.
Industrial Production
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, taking February 1974 as 100, what was the index of the United Kingdom's industrial production in February 1978; and what percentage per annum growth rate this represents.
The provisional all-industries index of industrial production for February 1978, seasonally adjusted and resealed to February 1974=100, was 100·6. This represents an annual growth rate of some 0·15 per cent. between February 1974 and February 1978. But the use for some industries of series which measure deliveries rather than production can result in the index overstating the level of output when industry is drawing on stocks of finished goods—as it was during the three-day working week—or understating the level when stocks are being built up. This effect makes the assessment of growth since February 1974 particularly hazardous.
Borrowing Requirement
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the reason for the difference between the definition of the borrowing requirement of the central Government in the outturn 1977–78 and forecast 1978–79 in Table 15 of the Financial Statement (HC 310).
There is no difference of principle in the definition of the central Government borrowing requirement for the two years 1977–78 and 1978–79. The difference in wording to which the right hon. Gentleman refers reflects the fact that no analysis is given for 1978–79 of the financing of the CGBR, of which the change in the exchange reserves is part.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of the estimated £8½ billion borrowing requirement for 1978–79 is represented by interest on Government borrowings.
The public sector borrowing requirement is the balance all receipts and all expenditure of the public sector as a whole. It would be wrong to attribute to it any particular item of expenditure—or receipts. The Budget forecast of public sector interest payments to the private sector and overseas in 1978–79 is £8·4 billion.
Government Debt (Interest)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated interest payable in 1978–79 on Government debt issued since March 1974.
£5·2 billion is estimated to be payable from the National Loans Fund in 1978–79 as interest on Government securities issued since March 1974 and still outstanding, including those issued to finance securities redeemed in the same period and those held in central Government funds and accounts.
Unemployment Forecasts
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the forecasts of future unemployment and other relevant data provided by the Treasury model are made available to the Manpower Services Commission.
No. The Manpower Services Commission has its own specific needs for disaggregated employment projections and it is therefore right that it should make its own arrangements for meeting those needs.
Company Profits
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why, in view of the fact that many companies which have increased their prices by large amounts are declaring profits of between 10 per cent. and 20 per cent. above the previous year's results, he will not take action to prevent any organisations increasing their prices where a profit above the 10 per cent. wage guidelines is reported.
Because I am not in favour of a crude price control policy based on an assumption that company profits last year were at a generally satisfactory level. In fact, industry's profit ability in 1977 was on average lower than in any previous year except 1976, the worst of the last recession. We have frequently said that company profits need to be increased substantially above this level for British industry to be regenerated. The Government's counter-inflation policy includes a system of price control operated by the Price Commission which is intended to balance the interests of consumers with the Government's industrial objectives; it is not intended to operate as a general restraint on profits.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, further to the Written Answer to the hon. Member for Cornwall, North (Mr. Pardoe), Official Report, 28th April, columns 733–4, if he will publish a revised version of the table in which income tax levied on company profits for the years 1959–60 to 1965–66, inclusive, is classified as a tax on companies and not as a tax on personal incomes.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Tax Allowances
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total value of dependency allowances, child tax allowances and family allowance or child benefit for a working widow with two children in 1977 and 1976; what will be the corresponding value for 1978; and how these figures compare with the value of child tax allowances and family allowance or child benefit for a married man with the same family.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost in a full year of increasing both the single and married allowances and also the age allowances, by £200, and at the same time cancelling the introduction of a lower rate of tax of 25 per cent. on the first £750 of taxable income.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the effect on Inland Revenue staff numbers if the married and single allowances, non-retired, were raised beyond the levels set for 1978–79 by £240 and £120 respectively.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 27th April 1978; Vol. 948, c. 673], gave the following answer:The effect would be to reduce Inland Revenue staff requirements by about 450 units.
Personal Incomes
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing, for a married man with no investment income and an earned income of £2,000, £3,000, £4,000, £5,000, £6,000, £7,000, £8,000, £9,000, £10,000 and £15,000, respectively (a) the proportion of his total income taken in tax on the basis of the proposals contained in the Budget statement and (b) the proportion of his total income that would be taken in tax if the married allowance were raised to £1,700, the lower rate and basic rate of tax consolidated at 30 per cent., the higher rate threshold raised to £8,000 of taxable income, and the higher rates consolidated at 60 per cent.; and what would be the cost to the Revenue in a full year of implementing the proposals implicit in (b) above, assuming a similiar increase in the single allowance.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Income Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost in a full year of taxing all earned income above the basic rate band at 50 per cent.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give his estimates of the cost to the Revenue in 1978–79 and in a full year of making the following tax changes over and above those in the Budget statement: (a) a reduction in the basic rate of tax from 34 per cent. to 33 per cent.; (b) extension of the basic rate band by £1,000 to £7,250, (c) an increase in the investment income surcharge thresholds to £2,000 for those under 65 years of age and £3,000 for those aged 65 years of age and over, and harmonisation of the 10 per cent. band at £500 in each case, and (d) taxing slices of taxable income in excess of £8,000 at the following rates: the first £2,000 at 40 per cent., the next £4,000 at 50 per cent., the next £7,000 at 60 per cent., and the remainder at 70 per cent., and the cost of (b) above to be calculated on the basis that the change in (a) above has already been achieved, and the cost of (d) above to be calculated on the basis that the change in (b) above has already been achieved.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 3rd May 1978; Vol 949, c. 188–89], gave the following information:The costs at 1978–79 income levels are:
| 1978–79 | Full year | |
| £ million | £ million | |
| (a) | 340* | 370 |
| (b) | 40 | 50 |
| (c) | 5 | 30 |
| (d) | 155 | 335 |
| Total | 540 | 785 |
| *This does not include the first-year cost, estimated at £33 million, of a consequential change in the rate of advance corporation tax. There is no cost on this account in a full year. | ||
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be additional cost to the Revenue, following the Budgets, of reducing the top rate of tax from 83 per cent. to 80 per cent. on earned income and from 98 per cent. to 95 per cent. on unearned income.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 2nd May 1978; Vol. 949, c. 103], gave the following answer:About £25 million.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the additional cost to the Revenue, following the Chancellor's Budget proposals, of increasing the basic rate band of taxable income from £7,000 to £10,000 with new higher rate bands as follows: £10,000–£12,000 at 40 per cent., £12,001–£14,000 at 45 per cent., £14,001–£16,000 at 50 per cent., £16,001–£18,000 at 55 per cent., £18,001–£20,000 at 60 per cent., £20,001–£22,000 at 70 per cent., £22,001–£23,000 at 75 per cent., and over £23,000 at 83 per cent.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 2nd May 1978: Vol. 949, c. 103], gave the following answer:About £445 million at 1978–79 income levels and after taking account of the proposals in the Budget Statement.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the revenue effect of reducing the proposed lower rate band of income tax at 25 per cent. from £750 to £500.
, pursuant to the reply [Official Report, 2nd May 1978; Vol. 949, c. 103], gave the following answer:About £490 million at 1978–79 income levels and after taking account of the proposals in the Budget Statement, on the assumption that the proposed width of the basic rate band was increased by £250 to £6,500.
Value Added Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by what percentage the basic rate of value added tax would need to be raised to compensate for a reduction of 1 per cent. in the standard rate of income tax.
The standard rate of VAT would need to be raised from 8 per cent. to 9 per cent.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the cost of printing and publishing the "VAT Newsletter"; what research has been done into the acceptability and comprehension of this publication; and if he will make a statement.
"VAT News" is intended to advise VAT registered traders of changes in the tax which may affect their businesses. The latest edition—No. 13—cost about £160,000 for printing and posting. It was issued in November 1977 primarily to explain the changes in the law which were made in last year's Finance Act, and in consequential Treasury orders, to implement the Sixth EEC Directive on VAT as from 1st January 1978. As I explained during the Finance Bill debates, many of these changes were technical in nature and had little practical effect on most registered traders. This was also explained in the introductory paragraph of "VAT News" 13. Nevertheless, it was necessary to publicise these changes since it was not possible to single out those traders who might be affected from the generality of the 1¼ million registered businesses.The Commissioners of Customs and Excise are conscious of the need to simplify their publications, including "VAT News", so far as this is possible considering the wide range of businesses which are registered for VAT. To this end they consult interested trade bodies, whenever practicable, and are always glad to receive constructive suggestions as to how their publications could be simplified.
Prices (Public Holiday Effects)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the rise in the retail price index occasioned by each public holiday on which employees have a statutory right to be paid.
Any change in the retail price index resulting from additional paid holidays would depend upon a variety of factors, which would vary from firm to firm. There is no ready-made formula for estimating the overall effect.
Degas Painting
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the pastel by Degas of two dancers, currently on loan to the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge, has been accepted from the Jenyns Estate in part satisfaction of tax liabilities; and, if so, whether an appropriate sum has been debited to the National Land Fund in respect of the transaction.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Business Profits
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many persons in the year 1975–76 and in the year 1976–77 respectively, whether as sole traders or partners showed profits assessable under Schedule D, Case I or II, in excess of £23,000.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 2nd May 1978; Vol. 949, c. 104], gave the following answer:The latest year for which figures are available is 1975–76. For that year it is estimated that about 6,500 persons, counting wives separately, had profits in excess of £23,000 assessed under Schedule D, Case I or II.
Taxation
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing the percentage of a married man's gross income paid in income tax
| 1977–78 | 1978–79 | ||
| Income (including child benefit)£ | Percentage paid in tax and national insurance contribution percentage | Income (including child benefit £ | Percentage paid in tax and national insurance contribution percentage |
| 3,130 | 18·3 | 3,568 | 19·0 |
| 4,130 | 23·5 | 4,668 | 24·1 |
| 5,130 | 26·7 | 5,768 | 27·2 |
| 6,130 | 28·3 | 6,868 | 29·0 |
| 7,130 | 29·1 | 7,968 | 29·7 |
| 8,130 | 29·8 | 9,068 | 30·3 |
| 9,130 | 31·0 | 10,168 | 31·4 |
| 10,130 | 32·5 | 11,268 | 32·8 |
| The figures for income in 1978–79 take account of the proposed increases in child benefit in November 1978. | |||
Stamp Duty
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost of removing stamp duty on the purchase of houses of the value up to £5,000, £7,500, £10,000, £15,000 and £20,000.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 4th May 1978; Vol. 949, c. 250], gave the following answer:Stamp duty is not currently chargeable on the purchase of a house with a value of £15,000 or less. The estimated cost of abolishing stamp duty on purchases of houses valued at between £15,000 and £20,000 is about £18 million, assuming that scales of duty remained otherwise unchanged.
Inland Revenue (Entry Rights)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer on how many occasions
and employee's national insurance contribution combined in 1977–78, assuming him to have two children aged under 11 years, no investment income, and earned income of £3,000, £4,000, £5,000, £6,000, £7,000, £8,000, £9,000 and £10,000, respectively; and what is the comparable percentage he will pay in 1978–79 on the basis of the proposals contained in the Budget Statement, assuming in each case that his gross earnings are 10 per cent. higher than in 1977–78 and that he has not contracted out of the state pension scheme.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 4th May 1978; Vol. 949, c. 252], gave the following information:The figures are as follows:the Inland Revenue has been given rights of entry to private premises with warrants to obtain documents under Section 20B of Schedule 6 to the Finance Bill 1976.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 5th May 1978; Vol. 949, c. 315], circulated the following answer:The Inland Revenue has on seven occasions been given search warrants under Section 20 of the Taxes Management Act 1970, as amended by Schedule 6 to the Finance Act 1976. These seven cases involved a total of 38 search warrants.
Civil Service
Former Prime Ministers (Pensions)
asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will arrange for ex-Prime Ministers to draw their pensions on the same basis as hon. Members, at the age of 65 years or 62 years when such is eventually adopted for hon. Members.
No. As my hon. Friend is probably aware, the arrangements for the payment of pensions to former Prime Ministers were considered by the Top Salaries Review Body in July 1976 and the review body made no recommendations for change.
Retired Service Personnel (Pension Commutation)
asked the Minister for the Civil Service what formula is currently employed to calculate a retired Service man's commuted pension entitlement, including the rate of interest currently applied in that computation; how often that rate of interest is changed; on what basis it is changed, and what is the life expectancy assumed; and whether any different life expectancy is assumed as between men and women.
As the information requested is rather lengthy, I will write to the hon. Member about it as soon as I can.
Transport
A66 (Temple Sowerby)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether his re-examination of the A66 bypass at Temple Sowerby and Kirkby Thane, as part of the overall review of the trunk road programme, is likely to alter the proposed route which was originally announced in September 1975.
No. I have written to the hon. Member about the Temple Sowerby scheme.
Leighton Buzzard (Relief Road)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will make a statement on his conclusions on the timing of the construction of the southern relief road in Leighton Buzzard following his recent meeting with Bedfordshire County Council; and whether his conclusions include any special financial assistance that the Government would consider for this road.
My right hon. Friend will not form conclusions on this scheme until his consultations with the local authorities concerned with the Swindon-Oxford-A1 route as a whole are further advanced.
Seat Belts
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is his present policy with regard to making the wearing of seat belts compulsory for front seat passengers in cars.
I support the principle of compulsory wearing and regret that shortage of parliamentary time has ruled out legislation this Session.
Driver And Vehicle Licensing Centre
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will specify what requests have been sent by his Department or its predecessors to hon. Members suggesting that inquiries and conflicts relating to matters dealt with by the Swansea Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre should be sent direct to public servants of the centre rather than to Ministers; and what is the total number of inquiries and complaints that have been dealt with under these arrangements.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 19th April 1978], gave the following additional information:The number of cases put directly to officials between February 1974 and 31st March 1978 was 1,882. Figures recently given of hon. Members' inquiries have, of course, included those which came through this channel.
Social Services
Disabled Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what recent representations he has received from the Disablement Income Group about the level of financial support for the disabled.
Both Ministers and officials in my Department have frequent and informal contacts with representatives of the Disablement Income Group and I am aware in detail of their proposals for realising a national disability income.
Personal Incomes
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will publish figures tabulating the total gross cost to the employer, including employer's national insurance contribution with 2 per cent. surcharge, and any other statutory payments, as well as wages, of providing a wage which will leave a married man with four children aged 16, 14, 12 and 9 years with a net weekly income, net of housing costs and after allowing £3 a week for work expenses, equivalent to (a) 100 per cent., (b) 120 per cent. and (c) 140 per cent. of his supplementary benefit entitlement plus addition for free school meals;(2) if he will publish figures tabulating the total gross cost to the employer, including employer's national insurance contributions with 2 per cent. surcharge, and any other statutory payments, as well as wages, of providing a wage which will leave a married man with two children aged 15 and 13 years with a net weekly income, net of housing costs and after
| £p | |||||||
| Gross wage | Employer's national insurance contribution | Cost to employer | |||||
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | ||||
| (a) 34·69 | … | … | … | … | 20·96 | 2·52 | 23·48 |
| (b) 41·21 | … | … | … | … | 46·06 | 5·53 | 51·59 |
| (c) 47·73 | … | … | … | … | 69·32 | 8·32 | 77·64 |
| NOTES | |||||||
| COLUMN 1.The figures have been arrived at by taking (a) the supplementary benefit scale rates (b) 120 per cent. of the scale rates and (c) 140 per cent. of the scale rates, and adding in each case the value of free school meals and free welfare milk. | |||||||
| COLUMN 2. Shows the gross wages needed to produce net disposable incomes equal to the amounts in column 1. Net disposable income is defined as gross earnings plus child benefit, family income supplement, rent and rate rebates and the value of free school meals and free welfare milk; less tax, employee's national insurance contribution for an employee who is not contracted out, gross rent and rates, and work expenses. Gross rent and rates are assumed to be £6·30 and £2·35 respectively Work expenses are assumed to be £2·10. | |||||||
| COLUMN 3. The figures comprise the national insurance contributions for employers who are not contracted out and the 2 per cent surcharge. I understand that there are no other similar statutory payments which apply to all employments. | |||||||
| COLUMN 4. Shows the totals of the figures in columns 2 and 3. | |||||||
Ophthalmic Services
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the expenditure on general ophthalmic services for 1976–77 was £1,735,673 less than the sum granted.
The difference, 3·9 per cent., represents a margin of error in estimating expenditure on a demand-led service.
Child Benefits
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what latest estimate he
allowing £3 a week for work expenses, equivalent to ( a) 100 per cent., ( b) 120 per cent. and ( c) 140 per cent. of his supplementary benefit entitlement, plus addition for free school meals;
(3) if he will publish figures tabulating the total gross cost to the employer, including employer's national insurance contribution with 2 per cent. surcharge, and any other statutory payments, as well as wages, of providing a wage which will leave a married man with three children aged 15, 13 and 9 years with a net weekly income, net of housing costs and after allowing £3 a week for work expenses, equivalent to ( a) 100 per cent., ( b) 120 per cent. and ( c) 140 per cent. of his supplementary benefit entitlement plus addition for free school meals.
I regret that information in the form and to the extent requested could not be obtained without disproportionate expense. However, the following table gives such information as is available for a married man with two childen aged 4 and 6 on the basis of the assumptions included in the notes below:has made of that amount of child benefits payable at the new rates announced on 11th April 1978 that will go to families where the head of the family is earning above the national average wage, or the joint income of husband and wife is above the national average.
I will let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Self-Employed Persons And Contracted-Out Employees
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Ipswich (Mr. Weetch), Official Report, 1st December 1977, if he will list the benefits not available to the self-employed for which employees contracted out of the pension scheme can qualify.
An earner in contracted-out employment can qualify for the following State scheme benefits which are not available to the self-employed:
Unemployment benefit
Industrial Injury benefit
Earnings-related supplement (payable with various short-term benefits)
Additional component of invalidity pension
Additional component of widow's pension or widowed mother's allowance in so far as it exceeds the widow's guaranteed minimum pension(s) payable by the contracted-out schemes(s)
Additional component of retirement pension insofar as it exceeds the guaranteed minimum pension(s) payable by the contracted-out scheme(s).
National Insurance Contributions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the lower earnings limit for class 1, employed earners, was raised by 16·7 per cent. in April 1978, whereas the lower limit for class 4, self-employed, was raised by only 14·3 per cent.
The difference is not significant: it arises in part from the fact that changes in these limits are made under different statutory provisions, and in part from the rounding of figures to convenient amounts.
Dentists
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated average remuneration that a dentist in the NHS receives for extracting a tooth.
The NHS fee payable for a simple extraction is £1.50 plus a 3 per cent. expenses addition. Under pay policy dentists receive further payments in the form of cash supplements for 1976 and 1977, which are related to total treatments not particular items.
Family Practitioners
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the expenditure on family practitioners general medical services for 1976–77 was nearly £1 million less than the sum granted.
The difference, 0·3 per cent., represents a margin of error in estimating expenditure on a demand-led service.
Dental Services
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the expenditure on general dental services for 1976–77 was £1,135,789 less than the sum granted.
The difference, 0·6 per cent., represents a margin of error in estimating expenditure on a demand-led service.
Salmonella And Brucellosis
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the recorded numbers of cases of salmonella and brucellosis, respectively, resulting from the sale and consumption of untreated milk for each of the last five years.
The following are the numbers of positive isolations of salmonella food poisoning attributable to the consumption of untreated milk in England and Wales, recorded by the Public Health Laboratory Service:
| 1973 | 90 |
| 1974 | 184 |
| 1975 | 159 |
| 1976 | 29 |
| 1977 | 184 |
Health And Personal Social Services
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services by what amount expenditure was less than the sums granted for all health and personal social services in England for the year 1976–77.
As the Appropriation Account of the Vote for Health and Personal Social Services 1976/77 (House of Commons Paper No. 138 of 1977–78, pages 104 to 117) shows, expenditure was less than the sum granted by the net amount of £1,850,147.
Pharmaceutical Services
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the expenditure on pharmaceutical services for 1976–77 was £10,455,447 less than the sum granted.
The difference, 2·2 per cent. represents a margin of error in estimating expenditure on a demand-led service.
Liverpool Teaching Hospitals
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now answer the questions raised by the hon. Member for Basildon in the debate on the Liverpool teaching hospitals on 20th April.
I answered the points which my hon. Friend made in the debate on 20th April but if he has others and will tell me what they are I will write to him about them.—[Vol. 948, c. 748–812.]
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in the light of the experience with the Royal Liverpool Teaching Hospital, if he will now accept the need for critical path analyses in such projects and the need to ensure much closer scrutiny by Ministers in his Department.
Critical path analysis is widely used in health service building as an aid to project management. My colleagues and I take a close interest in the progress of hospital building projects.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will initiate an inquiry into the very substantial overspending incurred on the establishment of the Royal Liverpool Teaching Hospital.
The progress of this hospital is constantly reviewed and the causes of over-spending are well known. I see no need for a special inquiry.
Retinitis Pigmentosa
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has taken any steps to provide patients suffering from retinitis pigmentosa with the night vision aids of the type now being made commercially available in the United States by the Retinitis Pigmentosa Foundation, details of which have been sent to him.
These aids involve electronic image intensification and are very expensive. I am advised that they might be helpful to only a limited number of selected patients. Consultant ophthalmologists may prescribe these aids if they are clinically indicated, once they become commercially available and subject to the local availability of resources.
Diabetic Children (Use Of Disposable Needles)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now allow the use of disposable needles for diabetic children in cases where a consultant paediatrician considers it desirable.
Disposable needles for diabetic children can already be supplied through hospitals in those cases where they are considered clinically necessary by the consultant responsible.
Fluoridation
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the policies relating to fluoridation in the other member States of the European Community.
I will let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Ashby Hospital
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what his future plans are for the Ashby Hospital.
There are no plans for a change in the hospital's present use.
Hospital Waiting Lists
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the present number of patients awaiting admission to hospitals under the Trent Regional Health Authority.
53,287—on 31st December 1977.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients are now waiting for urgent admission to hospitals under the Trent Regional Health Authority.
4,696—on 30th September 1977.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give figures indicating the average number of patients awaiting admission to hospitals under the Trent Regional Health Authority for the years 1973, 1974, 1975 and 1976 and the first six months of 1977, respectively.
Average numbers on the last day of each quarter were as follows:
| 1974 | 46,582 (last three quarters only) |
| 1975 | 47,494 |
| 1976 | 50,530 |
| 1977 | 50,753 (first two quarters only) |
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the present number of patients awaiting admission to the Leicester Royal Infirmary.
3,120—on 31st December 1977.
Loughborough Hospital
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what his future plans are for the use of Loughborough Hospital.
The Leicestershire Area Health Authority (Teaching) plans to develop the hospital as a community hospital when resources permit.
Burnley General Hospital
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals there are to close Burnley General Hospital Accident and Emergency Service due to shortage of medical staff; what plans are being made to accommodate patients; for what periods the service would be closed; what measures are being taken to recruit extra medical staff; and what help his Department is prepared to offer.
There is as yet no accident and emergency service at Burnley General Hospital. This is presently provided for the Burnley Health District by the Victoria Hospital, Burnley. The medical staffing establishment of the accident and emergency department is for one medical assistant, three senior house officers, and 20 clinical assistant sessions. The three senior house officer posts were unfilled for a short period recently which led the Lancashire Area Health Authority to make contingency plans for selective periodic closure of the accident and emergency department and provision of alternative services in neighbouring districts. This situation did not in fact arise and the three posts are now filled.
Kent Area Health Authority
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what extra funds will be made available to the Kent Area Health Authority by 1987 under the plans recently announced by the South East Thames Regional Health Authority, how this compares with the amount recommended by the Resource Allocation Working Party, and what representations he intends to make to the region about the recent developments in the light of the assurances given to the hon. Member for Gravesend by the Minister of State on 3rd March.
At its last meeting the South-East Thames Regional Health Authority agreed regional strategic guidelines which provide for two options for the redistribution of revenue resources by 1987–88—a 25 per cent. and a 40 per cent. movement towards target allocations—and area health authorities have been asked to prepare their strategic plans on the basis of the two options. The regional health authority will review these options when the areas' plans have been received. It is for the regional health authority to develop its strategy within the guidelines issued by my Department and I see no reason to intervene at this stage.
Health And Safety
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people working in the National Health Service were absent because of industrial injury or suffering from a prescribable industrial disease in 1975, 1976, 1977, and to date in 1978; what was the financial cost to the service; what steps are being taken to reduce the number of people absent from these causes; how many people have been absent due to sickness in these years; what was the cost to the service; and what will be the cost of setting up health and safety committees as required under the Health and Safety Act.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Container Allowance
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the basic container allowance paid in the years 1968, 1972, 1976 and 1977; and what was the average actual cost over half-ounce glass tablet bottles and 100 ml and 500 ml glass medicine bottles in the same years.
The container allowance paid for every prescription—except a "bulk" or oxygen prescription—dispensed by chemists was as follows:
| New Pence | |
| 1968 | 0·80 (1·91d) |
| 1972 (January-July) | 0·83 |
| 1972 (August-December) | 1·00 |
| 1976 (January-August | 1·55 |
| 1976 (September-December) | 1·80 |
| 1977 (January-June) | 1·80 |
| 1977 (July-December) | 2·50 |
Prescriptions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what response he has had from the medical profession in respect of his request to practitioners to curtail prescriptions for linctuses, analgesics, laxatives and vitamin preparations; whether he considers it would not be more realistic to exclude such drugs from National Health Service prescriptions; and if he will make a statement.
On 19th April the chairman of the council of the British Medical Association and I jointly signed a statement expressing concern about rising patient expectation and consumption of NHS facilities and requesting doctors to consider how best to contribute towards arresting this trend. A copy of this statement is in the Library. It is too early yet to assess its effect.Only a doctor can decide what medicines—if any—may be needed in a particular case and there can thus be no question of prohibiting the prescription under the National Health Service of any available drug, though a doctor may of course be called upon to justify his prescribing decisions to his professional colleagues if the cost appears excessive.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the saving to the National Health Service if simple cough linctuses, analgesics, laxatives and vitamin preparations were excluded from National Health Service prescriptions.
I assume that the hon. Member has in mind those drugs of the categories named which can be obtained without prescription. I will write to him as soon as the necessary calculations have been made.
National Insurance Contributions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will publish in the Official Report the amount of the national insurance contribution for self-employed men at the old and the new rate in respect of earnings of £3,000, £4,000, £5,000 and £6,000 per annum.
The figures for the annual national insurance contribution liability of a self-employed man are:
| Annual profits or gains | 1977–78 | 1978–79 |
| £ | £ | £ |
| 3,000 | 238·32 | 148·80 |
| 4,000 | 318·32 | 198·80 |
| 5,000 | 398·32 | 248·80 |
| 6,000 | 438·32 | 298·80 |
Benefits
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will list in the Official Report any means-tested grants or benefits which test the income of a person or persons from whom the claimant has no legal right to demand financial support.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 17th March 1978; Vol. 946, c. 347], gave the following information:I take it that my hon. Friend has in mind taking into account, for the purposes of assessing a person's entitlement when administering means-tested benefits, the income of a person from whom the claimant has no legal right to demand financial support. This would arise for example when a person was living as the spouse of another person from whom that person had no legal right to maintenance as a spouse or in respect of children, where entitlement depended on their aggregated income and on whether the other person was in full-time work. The main benefits are supplementary benefit, family income supplement, help with or exemption from National Health Service charges, patients' hospital travelling expenses and free milk and vitamins. There may also be some discretionary benefits administered by local authorities but this would depend on the policies of individual authorities.If my hon. Friend has a particular case in mind I would be glad to make inquiries.
Rejected Food Imports
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what types and quantities of food have been imported in 1976, 1977 and 1978 which have been rejected by other overseas health authorities; what were the reasons for the rejection; and what proportion of these foods, and what types, have subsequently been sold for human consumption.
Responsibility for enforcing the Imported Food Regulations 1968, as amended, lies with port health authorities and local authorities, and my Department does not collect statistics of the kind asked for by my hon. Friend.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps are being taken to prevent food rejected by other countries as unfit for human consumption being imported in the future; and when amendments to the imported food legislation are due to be introduced, arising from the appeal to the High Court against a destruction order in which Lord Widgery upheld the appeal on the ground that the British regulations demanded a cargo to be found unfit for human consumption.
The High Court judgment to which my hon. Friend refers does not appear to have affected the position whereby, under the Imported Food Regulations 1968, as amended, imported food may be seized and destroyed if it is held by a magistrate to be unfit for human consumption, whether or not it has pre viously been rejected by the authorities in another country. Accordingly, I do not consider that there is a need to amend the Imported Food Regulations arising out of the judgment.Nevertheless, the judgment may have implications for enforcement authorities in that it appears to underline that a declaration issued abroad does not in itself constitute evidence of unfitness for the purpose of the regulations unless it specifically declares the food in quesion not to have been fit for human consumption at the time of examination. Officers of my Department have discussed these implications with representatives of the Association of Sea and Airport Health Authorities.
Medway Health District
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish the figures establishing the need under the norms laid down by his Department and the present provision of services by the Kent County Council in relation to the following categories within the five districts of the administration of the Kent County Council Social Service Department which covers the area of the Medway Health Districts (a) home help facilities, (b) numbers of day nursery places and residential places for children in care, (c) meals on wheels service, day centres for the elderly and residential places in homes for the elderly, (d) day centres, places for physically handicapped, (e) day centres, hostels and staffed homes for the mentally ill, and (f) the provision of foster homes/lodging facilities for the mentally ill; and what if any is the provision for the age groups of 0 to 15 years and 15 plus years.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 27th April 1978; Vol. 948, cc. 631–2], gave the following information:Figures for the level of provision of personal social services within districts are not collected centrally. Information available for the Kent Social Services Department at 31st March 1977 and covering all districts in Kent is set out below and compared with the figures for England as a whole. The Department does not specify levels of provision which must be adhered to by authorities, but planning guidelines are issued from time to time which give broad national objectives and "illustrative projections" for provision years. Projections as published, for instance, in the Department's discussion
| PROVESION PER THOUSAND RELEVANT POPULATION AT 31ST MARCH 1977 | |||||||||
| Service | Kent | England | Relevant population (see footnote) | ||||||
| Home Help Cases(1) | … | … | … | … | 68 | 100 | (a) | ||
| Meals Served at Home(1) | … | … | … | … | 1,990 | 3,701 | (a) | ||
| Day Centre Places for Elderly | … | … | … | 0·41 | 3·13* | (a) | |||
| Day Centre Places for YPH | … | … | … | 0·17 | 0·47* | (b) | |||
| Day Centre Places for Mentally Ill | … | … | 0·03 | 0·11* | (c) | ||||
| Residents Supported by LAs in Homes for the Elderly and YPH | … | … | … | … | … | 13·2 | 17·5† | (a) | |
| Places in Staffed Homes and Hostels | … | … | 0·04 | 0·05 | (c) | ||||
| Places in Unstaffed Homes and Hostels for Mentally Ill | … | … | … | … | … | 0·05 | 0·02 | (c) | |
| Mentally Ill Persons Lodging in Private Accommodation | … | … | … | … | … | … | 0·01 | 0·02 | (c) |
| Day Nursery Places | … | … | … | … | … | 0·31‡ | 8·28‡ | (d) | |
| Children in Care in Residential Establishments | … | 2·64‡ | 3·56‡ | (e) | |||||
| (1) Figures relate to twelve months ending 31st March 1977. | |||||||||
| Population: June 1976. | |||||||||
| (a) 65 years and over June 1976. | |||||||||
| (b) 15–64 years June 1976 | |||||||||
| (c) Total. | |||||||||
| (d) 0–4 years June 1975. | |||||||||
| (e) 0–17 years June 1975. | |||||||||
| * Estimates. | |||||||||
| † Provisional. | |||||||||
| ‡ 31st March 1976. | |||||||||
Doctors And Staff (Ratios)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the ratio of doctors to patients in the National Health Service; and what is the ratio of National Health administrators to patients.
There is no way of distinguishing "administrators" from the general class of administrative and clerical staff as there is no agreed definition of an administrator for this purpose.At 30th September 1976, the latest date for which figures are available, there were 120 doctors and 210 administrative and clerical staff per 100,000 population in England.
Prescriptions
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average net cost per item of prescriptions dispensed in 1972, 1974, 1976 and 1977; what was the percentage on cost paid in those years and the average professional fee in each instance.
I will let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
document "The Way Forward", illustrate the—generally—higher levels of over current national rates that particular are consistent with assumed resource constraints.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is currently the number of administrators in the National Health Service; and what is the ratio of doctors to administrators.
There is no way of distinguishing "administrators" from the general class of administrative and clerical staff as there is no agreed definition of an administrator for this purpose.At 30th September 1976, the latest date for which figures are available, the total number of administrative and clerical staff in the National Health Service was 98,507. The ratio of all doctors to administrative and clerical staff was 1:1·8. Figures are for England.
Employment
Overseas Student Nurses
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will arrange for statistical records to be kept of the number of student nurses from overseas who, having qualified, obtain suitable employment in the United Kingdom.
Statistics are kept by this Department of the number of student nurses from overseas who having qualified in this country are given permission to take nursing employment here. These statistics are not however published separately but included in the figures shown annually in the Department of Employment Gazette for medical and dental services.
Redundancy Payments And Guaranteed Payments
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the estimated gross and net costs to public funds of (a) redundancy payments and (b) the guaranteed payments scheme for the financial years 1977–78, 1978–79 and 1979–80.
The total cost to the redundancy fund of rebates to employers meeting their liabilities under the Redundancy Payments Act 1965 and payments direct to employees under Section 32 of the Act where the employer has failed to make a payment is estimated to be:
| £ million | £ million | ||
| 1977–78 | 82–1 | Rebate | 67·5 |
| Section 32 | 14·6 | ||
| 1978–79 | 75·5 | Rebate | 61·5 |
| Section 32 | 14·0 | ||
| 1979–80 | 68·5 | Rebate | 56·0 |
| Section 32 | 12·5 |
May Day Holiday
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will take steps to test public opinion as to the desirability of May Day as a public holiday, consequent upon the experience of the public in the current year.
No.
Toy And Button Manufacturing
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has now received the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service reports on the toy manufacturing and button manufacturing wages councils; and if he will make a statement.
I have received the report on button manufacturing but I do not expect to receive that on toy manufacturing until later this month. I hope to make a statement when I have studied both reports.
Pay Settlements (Monitoring)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to the Minister of State's supplementary reply to the hon. Member for Melton, Official Report, 2nd May, column 5, how many civil servants are currently monitoring stage 3 pay deals; how many settlements have so far been examined; how many have been (a) proved satisfactory and (b) unsatisfactory; and what action has been taken subsequently in the latter cases.
Apart from the public sector, which is primarily the responsibility of the sponsoring Departments, my Department currently employs 80 staff on dealing with inquiries and advising employers as well as monitoring settlements. Over 6 million employees are known to have been covered by major settlements, and well over 95 per cent. settled within the guidelines. If a settlement is found to exceed the guidelines, my Department holds discussions to persuade both parties to renegotiate the settlement, and this usually proves successful.
Job Creation
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will arrange to have published in the Press notice which accompanies each month's unemployment figures (a) a table showing the number of people assisted by each of the various employment and training measures each month over the past three years and (b) a table showing the number of vacancies notified to employment offices each month which are attributable to the various job creation schemes since these schemes were first introduced.
I will reply to the right hon. Member as soon as possible.
Employment Protection Act
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will consider publishing a simplified guide to the Employment Protection Act with a view to helping small employers who are confused and bewildered by the Act as it stands.
Yes. My Department is currently preparing such a guide.
Health And Safety
asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he has any proposals to facilitate the Health and Safety Executive's enforcement of the Health and Safety at Work, etc Act within Government establishments; and if he will make a statement on his attitude to Sir James Howie's working party on improving safety in Government laboratories.
The Health and Safety Commission has expressed to me and other Ministers its view that Crown bodies should be subject to the same sanctions, including the use of enforcement notices and prosecution, as other employers. As I explained in reply to a Question by the hon. Member for Galloway (Mr. Thompson), the Commission has been asked to prepare, for further ministerial consideration, a paper setting out the sorts of difficulty that have been met or that are foreseen in dealing with Crown bodies under the Act.Meanwhile, the Commission has decided that the executive should introduce forms of notice to be issued to Crown establishments in instances in which its inspections reveal circumstances that would, in relation to non-Crown establishments, call for the issue of statutory improvement or prohibition notices. This will enable the action taken by the Health and Safety Executive in relation to Crown establishments to be as similar as possible to that taken elsewhere.
The report of Sir James Howie's working party, on which the Health and Safety Executive was represented by an observer, embodies a draft code of practice for the prevention of infection in clinical laboratories. This code is at present under discussion and it will be a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services to determine the action which should be taken to implement it and the other recommendations in the report.
Hospitals And Government Departments (Safety)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what criticisms of safety standards in hospitals and Government Departments he has received from the Health and Safety Commission; and if he will take immediate steps to implement the Commission's recommendation that all workplaces, including those of the Crown, should be brought under the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act.
Although Crown bodies are exempt from the provisions of the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act relating to enforcement, penalties and offences, I must emphasise that this does not enable them to escape their obligations and to ignore any recommendations made by inspectors of the Health and Safety Executive. The Act is already binding on the Crown and the Government have given a firm commitment that they will take whatever action is necessary to secure compliance with the Act's provisions throughout the public sector.I have received no specific and detailed criticisms of health and safety standards in hospitals and Government Departments from the Commission, but at a meeting with Ministers in November 1977 the Commission made known to me its view that amending legislation should be introduced to remove the Crown's immunity from enforcement and prosecution. As a result of that meeting, the Commission was asked to prepare, for further ministerial consideration a paper setting out its proposals and detailing the areas where it has experienced, or anticipates experiencing, difficulty because of the present position of the Crown under the Act. That paper is still awaited.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Beer
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what study he has made of recommendations of the Food Standards Committee report on beer that there should be permitted descriptions of beers related to the original gravity; and what plans he has for implementing these recommendations.
Officials of my Department have been holding informal discussions with interested parties to establish the extent of agreement on this and other recommendations in the Food Standards Committee's report. In the light of these discussions, consideration will be given to whether regulations should be made under the Food and Drugs Act 1955.
Meat (Veterinarian Inspectors)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether regulations will be laid before Parliament in the forthcoming year which will transfer the responsibility for the engagement of veterinarians for red meat inspecition to local authorities; if he will give full details of these and when they will come into operation; what effect this will have on the meat inspection service as at present operated by local authorities; what will be the position following the transfer of power to the local authority environmental health officers; how many veterinarians will be appointed; what will be the cost of the scheme; and how much of this will be borne by the consumer.
As my right hon. Friend the Minister told the House on 15th February, the Government have decided that future action in the field of meat hygiene should be in accordance with the recommendations of the Meat Hygiene Working Group, copies of which are available in the Library of the House.There are therefore no plans to alter the present arrangements for enforcement and execution of legislation on hygiene and meat inspection in slaughterhouses operating only for the home market trade. The working group recommended that slaughterhouses exporting to EEC countries should be subject to additional regulations, based on the present administrative arrangements, which should require, inter alia, export standards of hygiene and inspection, including veterinary supervision, to be maintained at all times, and should assign the responsibility for maintenance of standards and appointment of veterinarians to local authorities. Proposals for regulations on these lines will be issued shortly to interested organisations for comment, and the regulations will be laid before the House when the consultations are complete.The replies to my hon. Friend's detailed question must depend to a large extent on the outcome of these consultations. I would, however, emphasise that the proposed regulations would apply only to export slaughterhouses. Only 50 slaughterhouses in England and Wales out of a total of over 1,400 are at present approved to export to EEC countries.—[Vol. 944, c.
259]
Livestock (Weather Loss Compensation)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what progress has been made in finalising arrangements for compensation for livestock lost in the storms and floods earlier this year; and if he will make a statement.
Since my right hon. Friend's announcement on 22nd March, there have been discussions with the farmers' unions on the detailed criteria for making payments out of the fund they have launched to farmers who have lost livestock in the winter storms and floods. It is hoped to reach agreement on these criteria very shortly and then to invite farmers to submit claims.As my right hon. Friend said, the Government, in addition to administering the fund, will make a contribution to it out of the sum offered by the EEC Commission. It will not be possible to say what contribution can be made in respect of livestock losses until the size of the fund and the extent of the losses are known.—[Vol. 946, c.
550–2.]
Scotland
Pierowall, Westray (Harbour)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made over finding finance for the proposed harbour at Pierowall, Westray, Orkney.
Following discussions with my Department, the Islands Council has this month submitted modified proposals, estimated to cost £540,800. These are being examined and my Department will arrange for further discussions with the council about them.
Sub-Standard Housing
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what is the allocation of funds by the Housing Corporation to the various regions in Scotland to be distributed to housing associations for improvement of sub-standard dwellings; and what are the precise sums and the relative percentage being made available in each region in Scotland, showing the breakdown region by region;(2) what was the number of acquisitions of tenement properties for rehabilitation allowed to housing associations in Edinburgh by the Housing Corporation in 1977–78 and in 1978–79; and how many acquisitions of tenement properties for rehabilitation were allowed to housing associations by the Housing Corporation to each region in Scotland, giving precise figures for each year from 1974 to date.
The allocation of the funds available to it, including those for the acquisition of tenement property for rehabilitation, is a matter for the Housing Corporation.The hon. Member may care to approach the corporation direct for this information.
Housing Revenue Accounts
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give in total and for each district council in Scotland for each of the years 1975–76 to 1978–79 the initial bids by the councils, the allocations approved by the Secretary of State, and for the first three years the actual or esti mated expenditures by the councils, on capital expenditure on housing revenue accounts in terms of Section 94 of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973, with allocations and actual expenditures also expressed as a percentage of initial bids.
I would refer my hon. Friend to the replies which I gave my hon. Friend the Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. Canavan) on 21st February and 10th March and to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, Central (Mr. Cook) on 1st March 1978.I shall send my hon. Friend a detailed list of the capital expenditure allocations for 1978–79 which my right hon. Friend announced in his reply to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Pollok (Mr. White) on 25th April, in which he stated that if any authority has difficulty in proceeding with its full programme within the limit of the allocation it may apply for additional financial consent in the course of the year as the need arises.—[Vol. 944, c. 507–510; Vol. 945. c. 775–776; Vol. 945, c. 243–244: Vol. 948, c. 540.]
Hampden Park
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he proposes to make a statement on Government financial assistance to Hampden Park during May; and what the grant will be.
I have nothing to add at present to what I said in reply to the hon. Member's Question on 19th April.
Housing Action Areas
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will publish the number of housing action areas approved for each housing authority in Scotland and the total number of houses included in such areas in each authority.
There are two distinct stages in the housing action area procedure—first, the submission of a draft resolution to the Secretary of State for his response within a specified period, and then, after an interval for local representations and explanations, the passing of a final resolution. The figures for draft resolutions and final resolutions are given in the following tables:
| FINAL HOUSING ACTION AREA RESOLUTIONS AS AT 31ST MARCH 1978 | |||||||||||||
| Number of Final Resolutions | Number of Houses | ||||||||||||
| Local Authority | Demolition | Improvement | Demolition and Improvement | Total | Demolition | Improvement | Total | ||||||
| Grampian | |||||||||||||
| Gordon | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 12 | 12 |
| Aberdeen | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 6 | — | 6 | — | 129 | 129 |
| Tayside | |||||||||||||
| Angus | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | 10 | 1 | 12 | 11 | 238 | 249 |
| Dundee | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 250 | 279 | 529 |
| Perth and Kinross | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | 3 | — | 4 | 4 | 35 | 39 | |
| Fife | |||||||||||||
| Kirkcaldy | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 4 | 1 | 5 | 23 | 192 | 215 |
| Dunfermline | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 69 | 74 |
| Lothian | |||||||||||||
| West Lothian | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | 1 | 2 | 22 | 67 | 89 | |
| Edinburgh | … | … | … | … | … | … | 3 | 24 | 2 | 29 | 700 | 2,812 | 3,512 |
| East Lothian | … | … | … | … | … | — | 6 | — | 6 | — | 56 | 56 | |
| Central | |||||||||||||
| Clackmannan | … | … | … | … | … | — | 3 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 59 | 62 | |
| Stirling | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 6 | — | 6 | — | 88 | 88 |
| Falkirk | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 4 | 1 | 5 | 8 | 254 | 262 |
| Strathclyde | |||||||||||||
| Dumbarton | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 33 | 33 |
| Glasgow | … | … | … | … | … | … | 82 | 59 | 1 | 142 | 3,372 | 6,562 | 9,934 |
| Strathkelvin | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | — | — | — |
| Monklands | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 98 | 98 |
| Hamilton | … | … | … | … | … | … | 3 | — | — | 3 | 31 | — | 31 |
| Eastwood | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 2 | — | 2 | — | 16 | 16 |
| Lanark | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 1 | 1 | 25 | 15 | 40 |
| Renfrew | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 18 | 18 |
| Inverclyde | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 3 | — | 3 | — | 226 | 226 |
| Cunninghame | … | … | … | … | … | 6 | — | — | 6 | 109 | — | 109 | |
| Kyle and Carrick | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 24 | 24 | |
| East Kilbride | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 10 | 10 | |
| Dumfries & Galloway | |||||||||||||
| Annandale and Eskdale | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 20 | 20 | ||
| Western Isles Islands Area | … | … | … | … | — | 11 | — | 11 | — | 84 | 84 | ||
| TOTAL | … | … | … | … | … | … | 97 | 151 | 12 | 260 | 4,563 | 11,396 | 15,959 |
| DRAFT HOUSING ACTION AREA RESOLUTIONS AS AT 31ST MARCH 1978 | |||||||||||||
Number of Draft Resolutions
| Number of Houses
| ||||||||||||
Local Authority
| Demolition
| Improvement
| Demolition and Improvement
| Total
| Demolition
| Improvement
| Total
| ||||||
Grampian
| |||||||||||||
| Gordon | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 12 | 12 |
| Aberdeen | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 7 | — | 7 | — | 156 | 156 |
| Banff and Buchan | … | … | … | … | … | — | 3 | — | 3 | — | 37 | 37 | |
Tayside
| |||||||||||||
| Angus | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 11 | 1 | 12 | 6 | 243 | 249 |
| Dundee | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | 4 | 4 | 9 | 268 | 574 | 842 |
| Perth and Kinross | … | … | … | … | … | 2 | 5 | 1 | 8 | 35 | 59 | 94 | |
Fife
| |||||||||||||
| Kirkcaldy | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 6 | 1 | 7 | 23 | 209 | 232 |
| Dunfermline | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 69 | 74 |
Lothian
| |||||||||||||
| West Lothian | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | 1 | 2 | 22 | 67 | 89 | |
| Edinburgh | … | … | … | … | … | … | 3 | 32 | 3 | 38 | 713 | 3,622 | 4,335 |
| East Lothian | … | … | … | … | … | — | 6 | — | 6 | — | 56 | 56 | |
| Midlothian | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 2 | — | 2 | — | 116 | 116 |
Central
| |||||||||||||
| Clackmannan | … | … | … | … | … | — | 3 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 58 | 61 | |
| Stirling | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 9 | 1 | 10 | 2 | 129 | 131 |
| Falkirk | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | 5 | 1 | 7 | 16 | 251 | 267 |
Number of Draft Resolutions
| Number of Houses
| ||||||||||||
Local Authority
| Demolition
| Improvement
| Demolition and Improvement
| Total
| Demolition
| Improvement
| Total
| ||||||
Strathclyde
| |||||||||||||
| Dumbarton | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 33 | 33 |
| Glasgow | … | … | … | … | … | … | 96 | 68 | 1 | 165 | 3,856 | 7,313 | 11,169 |
| Strathkelvin | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | 1 | — | 2 | 3 | 10 | 13 |
| Monklands | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 102 | 102 |
| Hamilton | … | … | … | … | … | … | 5 | — | — | 5 | 118 | — | 118 |
| Eastwood | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 2 | — | 2 | — | 16 | 16 |
| Lanark | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 1 | 1 | 25 | 15 | 40 |
| Renfrew | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 18 | 18 |
| Inverclyde | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 3 | — | 3 | — | 226 | 226 |
| Cunninghame | … | … | … | … | … | 7 | 2 | — | 9 | 123 | 48 | 171 | |
| Kyle and Carrick | … | … | … | … | … | — | 7 | — | 7 | — | 96 | 96 | |
| East Kilbride | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 10 | 10 | |
| Clydebank | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 1 | 1 | 110 | 782 | 892 |
| Motherwell | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 2 | — | 2 | — | 89 | 89 |
Dumfries & Galloway
| |||||||||||||
| Annandale and Eskdale | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 20 | 20 | ||
| Nithsdale | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 10 | 10 |
Western Isles Islands Area
| … | … | … | … | — | 22 | — | 22 | — | 198 | 198 | ||
| TOTAL | … | … | … | … | … | … | 116 | 209 | 18 | 343 | 5,328 | 14,644 | 19,972 |
May Day
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, in view of the confusion throughout Scotland in relation to the public holiday on 1st May, if he will consult local authorities and representatives of industry and trade unions in relation to the arrangements for this holiday in 1979.
With the recent change in the statutory day of local government elections from the first Tuesday to the first Thursday in May the way has been cleared for islands and district councils to arrange, in accordance with the recommendation of the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities, for the May Day holiday to be observed on the first Monday in May from 1979 onwards. I see no need therefore for a survey.
Tertiary Education
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, in view of the fact that he has asked for and has received many representations from interested bodies on the creation of a council for tertiary education and the closing dates has been passed about one month ago, if he will make a statement on when he will come forward with firm proposals on the creation and powers of a council of tertiary education in Scotland.
My right hon. Friend is considering the comments received in response to the consultative paper issued in January, and hopes to be in a position to make an announcement soon.
Education And Science
British Library Board (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the British Library Board, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, namely, expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
For detailed information about the running costs and receipts of the British Library, I refer the hon. Member to the Appropriation Accounts for 1976–77 (Vol. 3: Class X Vote 3) and to the Supply Estimates for 1978–79 (Class X Vote 3).
Research Councils (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what has been the total cost of running the Medical Research Council, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, namely, expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79;(2) what has been the total cost of running the Social Science Research Council, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79;(3) what has been the total cost of running the Agricultural Research Council, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79;(4) what has been the total cost of running the Natural Environment Research Council, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79;(5) what has been the total cost of running the Science Research Council, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the last 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
I refer the hon. Member to the Appropriation Accounts (Vol. 3: Class X, Votes 7–11) 1976–77 and to the Supply Estimates 1978–79 (Class X, 7–11) which give detailed information about the running costs and receipts of the research councils.
Schools Council (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the Schools Council, including all main constituent
| 1976–77 (Outturn prices) | 1978–79 (October 1977 prices) | |||||||||
| £ | £ | |||||||||
| Research, Development, Publications and Information Services | … | 1,180,139 | 1,155,596 | |||||||
| Salaries, Travel and Subsistence | … | … | … | … | … | 955,076 | 1,050,304 | |||
| Other (including rent, heating, lighting, maintenance, postage and telephones) | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 379,839 | 365,842 |
| TOTAL | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 2,515,054 | 2,571,742 |
University Grants Committee (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the University Grants Committee, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, namely, expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
I refer the hon. Member to the Appropriation Accounts (Volume 3: Class X Vote 1 Section B) 1976–77 and to the Supply Estimates 1978–79 (Class X Vote 1 Section B), which show grants to universities through, and administrative costs of, the University Grants Committee. The administrative expenditure figures exclude certain accommodation costs which in 1973–79 are estimated to amount to about £187,000 at 1977 prices.
Technical Education Council (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the Technical Education Council, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
costs of any sort whatsoever, namely, expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
The total costs incurred by the Schools Council for 1976–77 and the estimated costs for 1978–79 are as follows:
The total cost of running the Technician Education Council for the period 1st October 1976 to 30th September 1977, was £517,175, at outturn prices, a full statement of income and expenditure for this period can be found in the Council's report and accounts, a copy of which has been placed in the Library. Expenditure for the fiscal year to 31st March 1979 is expected to be about £1 million.The Council's income is from Exchequer deficiency grant and registration fees. As the number of students registered for the Council's awards increases, so will their fee income. On present forecasts, deficiency grant will not be needed from the early 1980s.
Advisory Board For Research Councils (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the Advisory Board for Research Councils, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
Estimated costs at 1977 prices are £56,000 for 1977–78 and £72,000 for 1978–79. These include an allowance, which is necessarily approximate, for secretariat services and facilities provided by my Department.
Crafts Advisory Committee (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the Crafts Advisory Committee, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
The total net expenditure of the Crafts Advisory Committee in financial year 1976–77 was £668,467, at outturn prices, of which £267,828 was for grants. The estimated net expenditure in 1978–79 is £796,500 of which £394,100 is for grants, at November 1977 prices.
Burnham Committees (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the Burnham Committees, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on their own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
The cost of running the Burnham Committees in the financial year 1977–78 is estimated at £28,000 at 1977 prices and the cost in the current year is expected to be of the same order. This figure covers provision of accommodation and secretarial services for meetings of the Committees and the preparation of statutory instruments and documents to give effect to the Committees' recommendations. It does not cover the costs of bodies represented on the Committees and therefore does not include the secretarial costs of the teachers' and management panels or the costs relating to the attendance of members at meetings.
Computer Board For Universities And Research Colleges (Cost)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the total cost of running the Computer Board for Universities and Research Councils, including all main constituent costs of any sort whatsoever, such as expenditure on its own programmes, wages, rent, heating and lighting, maintenance, &c., in the latest 12 months for which figures are available; and what are the projected costs for 1978–79.
I refer the hon. Member to the Appropriation Accounts (Volume 3: Class X Vote 1 Section C) 1976–77 and to the Supply Estimates 1978–79 (Class X Vote I Section C), which show grants to universities towards capital and additional recurrent expenditure on computers. The figures exclude the administrative costs of the Computer Board for Universities and Research Councils, which in 1978–79 are estimated to amount to about £132,000 at 1977 prices.
Jazz Bands
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what study she has made of the representations made to her by the United Kingdom Federation of Jazz Bands; and if she is now able to make a statement on the awarding of grants to jazz bands as a recognised youth activity.
My right hon. Friend has considered the federation's representations and is prepared in principle to make a grant towards its expenditure. The Department will make a firm offer after it has obtained more details of the federation's plans.
European Centre For Nuclear Research (Documents)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether her Department has a copy of the European Centre for Nuclear Research "Repertoire des Installations"; if her Department is satisfied this document does not involve wasteful expenditure part of which will have to be met by the United Kingdom taxpayer, and, in particular, if she regards the vehicle maintenance schedules on page 62 as reasonable and the calculations on pages 27, 28 and 29 as correct.
The "Repertoire des Installations" is an internal document of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research. I am aware of the circumstances which prompted the hon. Member to ask this Question and will write to him when certain inquiries have been completed.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why documents needed by those submitting tenders for the European Centre for Nuclear Research maintenance contracts are only available in French; and if she is satisfied that tenders accepted are the best submitted.
All documents intended for external use, including tender documents, are available in the two official languages of the organisation—English and French. Documents intended for internal use, which may on occasion be consulted by tenderers, are normally available either in English or in French but not in both. The financial rules of the organisation provide for the acceptance of the lowest tender which satisfactorily meets the technical and delivery requirements and every effort is made by the organisation's finance committee to fulfil this provision.
European Organisation For Nuclear Research
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the cost to Her Majesty's Government in the last year of British participation in the European Organisation for Nuclear Research; what she expects the cost to be in the current year; whether the overall costs are checked by her Department; and if she is satisfied that these are not excessive.
The United Kingdom subscription to CERN in the financial year 1977–78 amounted to £23·8 million. The Estimated figure for 1978–79 is £22·8 million. The accounts of the organisation are subjected to annual audit by external auditors appointed by the member States. The United Kingdom plays a full part in the very careful consideration given by member States to the budgets of the European Organisation for Nuclear Research—which have been falling in real terms for some years—in order to secure a satisfactory level of expenditure.
Computerised Teaching Machines
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the current state of examination and experiment into the use of computerised teaching machines for primary and secondary schools, such as are widely in use in the United States of America and Scandinavia.
The five-year National Development Programme in Computer Assisted Learning, which was funded by the Department of Education and Science and which ended in December 1977, included a number of projects concerned with the use of computers as an aid to teaching and learning in schools and higher and further education. As my right hon. Friend said in a forward to the Programme Director's final report, a copy of which is in the Library, the United Kingdom has established itself as one of the world leaders in compueter assisted learning generally. The Council for Educational Technology is being allocated additional funds to assist in disseminating information and materials developed during the programme. In addition, the Schools Council has a continuing project for the development of teaching materials relating to uses of the computer in a number of subject areas.
School Milk
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science on what date it is expected that the new scheme of free school milk will come into operation.
From the beginning of the autumn term 1978.
Holyport C Of E Primary School
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the current pupil/teacher ratio at Holyport Church of England Primary School; how this compares with the national average; and if, in view of the expansion of the local population, she will make further funds available to the local authority to meet the increased needs for teachers and new building.
Information about pupil-teacher ratios is supplied by local education authorities on the understanding that details for individual schools will not be published by my Department. For England and Wales in January 1977 the average staffing standard in primary schools, including middle deemed primary, was 23·8 pupils per qualified teacher. Central Government resources for local authority services, including education, are provided through the rate support grant. This grant is not speicifically earmarked for particular needs but is partly determined in relation to the size of the local population.
Northern Ireland
Comprehensive Education
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether, under the Education and Libraries Order (Northern Ireland) 1972, the existing rates of grant of 100 per cent. of recurrent expenditure and 85 per cent. of capital expenditure will be affected where a particular voluntary or maintained grammar school refuses to co-operate in the application of a comprehensive policy.
The Government have taken no decision on future financial assistance for voluntary schools and will not do so until after the working party on financing voluntary schools in a non-selective system, chaired by Dr. Benn, has reported.
Employment (Disabled Persons)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many capital grants have been awarded to employers of disabled people to date; if he is satisfied with take-up of the scheme; and if he will make a statement.
The capital grants scheme was introduced on 1st July 1977 to provide payment of grants to employers who make essential adaptations to their premises or equipment in order to engage or retain specific disabled people. The scheme has been actively promoted by the Disablement Resettlement Service, but there have been only two approaches about taking up grants, and none has yet been paid. I am not satisfied with this level of take-up and am examining further means of encouraging employers to use this scheme.
Dunmurry
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will instal an intercommunication system in the retirement pensioners' housing complex at Glenburn Road, Dunmurry; and, if so, whether he will give the completion date for this project.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 3rd May 1978; Vol. 949, c. 198], gave the following information:Inquiries by the Eastern Health and Social Services Board have shown that there are differing opinions among residents in the Glenburn Road pensioners' dwellings as to the need for an intercommunication system. A survey to assess need has unfortunately been delayed by staff shortages and changes, but is now in hand and will be completed shortly.If the survey confirms a need for an intercommunciation system, the Eastern Board will provide it as soon as possible.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Passports (Impersonation Safeguards)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, further to his Written Answer, Official Report, 24th April, column 467, how many of the 98 detected cases of impersonation were in respect of a 10-year passport and how many in respect of passport or travel documents; and if he will now reconsider his decision on introducing further safeguards.
Of the 98 cases of impersonation detected in the past 16 months, 36 related to applications for 10-year passports and 62 to British visitor's passports. My right hon. Friend is still of the opinion that there is insufficient evidence of abuse to warrant the introduction of further safeguards which would deprive millions of genuine applicants of the immediate availability of British visitor's passports over Post Office counters.
Hong Kong
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if any of the provisions of the Race Relations Act 1976 are currently in force in Hong Kong.
None of the provisions of the Race Relations Act (1976) is in force in Hong Kong, as the terms of the Act do not provide for its application to Hong Kong.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs under what legal regulations illegal immigrants to Hong Kong are returning to the People's Republic of China; if there is any right of appeal; if so, if such persons may be represented by counsel at any hearing; and if legal aid is available.
Illegal immigrants from China are returned under Section 18(1)(a) of the Immigration Ordinance. They have a right of appeal to the Governor, but the procedures do not involve court hearings. Legal aid is not available, but illegal immigrants are allowed access to legal counsel through any relatives or friends in Hong Kong.
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many illegal immigrants to Hong Kong from the People's Republic of China have been returned in each of the past five years; and what is the average age of such persons.
The numbers of illegal immigrants returned to China each year since 1974 are:
| 1974 | 223 |
| 1975 | 1,133 |
| 1976 | 810 |
| 1977 | 1,779 |
| 1978 (up to 30th April) | 847 |
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish in the Official Report the number of persons who have entered Hong Kong from China by any legal means other than by re-entry permit for each year since 1972; how many now have permanent legal residence; and what is the average age of such entrees.
The numbers of legal entrants from China to Hong Kong since 1972 are:
| 1972 | 20,355 |
| 1973 | 55,659 |
| 1974 | 32,918 |
| 1975 | 25,641 |
| 1976 | 20,453 |
| 1977 | 26,449 |
| 1978 (up to 30th April) | 13,564 |
About 76,500 of these have been allowed to reside permanently in Hong Kong. Their average age was approximately 27.
Wales
Welsh Development Agency
asked the Secretary of State for Wales on what basis the Welsh Development Agency has provided for taxation in its accounts.
This is a matter for the Welsh Development Agency itself.
Pharmacies
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many pharmacies there were in Wales in 1968 and 1978, respectively.
809 at 31st December 1968, and 687 at the corresponding date in 1977.
Welsh Language
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much financial assistance has been given by his Department towards the printing and publishing of books in the Welsh language in each year since 1971–72.
Assistance is given to publishing books in Welsh under the Welsh Books for Adults scheme which is administered for my Department by the University of Wales Press Board. The amounts involved are:
| £ | |
| 1971–72 | 12,500 |
| 1972–73 | 12,500 |
| 1973–74 | 18,750 |
| 1974–75 | 14,965 |
| 1975–76 | 30,000 |
| 1976–77 | 41,145 |
| 1977–78 | 43,954 |
Local Authority Housing (Cost Yardsticks)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what adjustments have been made to the cost yardsticks for the purposes of assessing proposals by local housing authorities since 1973.
The hon. Member will be aware of the adjustments made up to the issue of Welsh Office circular 109/75, a copy of which I sent him. Since then there have been quarterly reviews of the yardsticks based on price indexes, up to March 1978, when the quarterly review increases were consolidated into new tables, and other minor adjustments were made. The revised tables were published in Welsh Office circular 40/78; I will send the hon. Member a copy.
Energy
Oil Refining
8.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on present United Kingdom oil refining capacity.
The total capacity of refineries in the United Kingdom is currently 142 million tonnes. In 1977 only 92 million tonnes of crude oil was refined in the United Kingdom, that is, about 65 per cent. of gross capacity.
Conservation
15.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what energy saving he anticipates will occur in each of the next five years as a consequence of the provisions in the recent Budget.
The Budget included proposals to help to encourage energy saving and we would like to see full advantage taken of them. Depending on the response, energy savings could build up to over 500,000 tons of oil equivalent a year, worth at least £35 million a year.
Gas And Electricity Supply (Northern Ireland Link)
17.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what recent consultations he has had on the provision of gas and electricity links between Great Britain and Northern Ireland; and if he will make a statement.
There have been no recent formal consultations about gas and electricity links between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, but there have been talks between officials of my Department and of the Northern Ireland Departments concerned, relevant to a gas link. For geographical reasons, a direct electrical link would have to be developed by the Northern Ireland Electricity Service and the South of Scotland Electricity Board, which are the responsibilities of my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Northern Ireland and Scotland.
Energy Commission
18.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he next expects to chair a meeting of the Energy Commission.
21.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will detail the Energy Commission's future programme and any changes which he proposes to make in its membership.
The next meeting of the Energy Commission, which I shall chair, will take place on 6th June. It will include discussion of international energy questions, research and development in the energy field, and the corporate planning of fuel industries. I cannot at this stage be precise about the programme beyond June but with the assistance of members we have identified a number of important subjects for future discussion. I have no plans at present to alter the Commission's membership.
Electricity Prices
19.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will give the latest index figure for electricity prices on a January 1974 base.
Electricity prices which stood at 100 in January 1974 were at 250 on March 14th. This is 30 per cent. higher than the general level of prices over the same period, creating serious problems for consumers. By comparison, in 1977 the cost of oil used by the electricity industry had increased to 4½ times the level it was during 1973.
Nuclear Power
20.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what plans he has for further stimulating public debate on the issues connected with nuclear power.
The Government's policy of publishing as much information as possible relating to nuclear developments, of conducting public inquiries and discussions and of submitting a proposal like the Windscale reprocessing plant to Parliament for decision has been welcomed and will continue.
North Sea Oil (Depletion Policy)
22.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what changes in depletion policy are in prospect as a result of recent decisions by oil companies operating in the North Sea to deploy profits which would otherwise be prone to petroleum revenue tax towards opening up new fields.
We do not envisage any change in depletion policy as a result of oil companies reinvesting their profits in new developments. It was always expected that part of the profits should be used in this way.
24.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on the North Sea oil and gas depletion policies of the Government.
The Government's priority has been to encourage a rapid build-up of oil production, which is expected to make Britain self-sufficient in 1980. It was for that reason that assurances about existing licences were given in 1974. These, of course, stand, but for the future our policies will be directed at maximising the benefit to the nation of the North Sea oil and gas resources, as set out in the Green Paper on energy policy. Many of these factors are still very uncertain and our immediate concern is with preserving flexibility as far as practicable.
Teversal Colliery, Nottinghamshire
23.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what representations he has received about the proposed closure of Teversal Colliery, North Nottinghamshire; and if he will make a statement.
At its request, I met a deputation from the National Union of Mineworkers, which included representatives from its Nottinghamshire area and from the pit branch on 27th April. A representative of the National Association of Colliery Overmen Deputies and Shot-firers was also present. I was impressed by the well-argued case that they presented. I suggested that they should have further talks with the National Coal Board and that, in general, closures policy should be agreed between the National Coal Board and the unions. This proposal will need to be further discussed.
Wave Power
25.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many years he estimates it will be before wave power contributes the same amount of energy to the national grid as one 1,500 MGW nuclear power station.
Wave power research is still in the experimental stage, although progress has been encouraging. The feasibility of a number of devices is being examined. The present programme aims to prove the technology as rapidly as possible. Thereafter the rate of installation will depend on the economics of wave power compared with other energy sources available at that time.
Motor Cars (Fuel Consumption)
26.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will report on the progress made in the discussions being held with the motor industry on possible targets for improving fuel consumption in new cars.
The Government would like to achieve greater fuel economy in motor transport in the interests of energy conservation and the motoring public. Following initial discussion with the motor industry last December a working group has been set up under Department of Energy chairmanship, which includes representatives of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and traders and the Petroleum Industry Advisory Committees as well as of other Government Departments. The group has held two meetings to date.
Severn Tidal Power Scheme
27.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he will authorise the further studies, recommended by the Select Committee on Science and Technology, on the feasibility of the Severn tidal power scheme, namely (a) the effect on the tidal regime, where there is an urgent need to explain the discrepancies between recent hydrographic research survey work and previous studies, (b) general environmental questions, (c) effect on shipping, Central Electricity Generating Board operations, riparian land usage and water authorities, (d) further studies of the wave regime in the estuary, with references to effects on both the construction of the barrage and to the effects on shipping waiting to pass through the locks in the barrage, and (e) the non-energy benefits directly associated with a barrage.
I expect to reply shortly to the Select Committee's recommendations on alternative energy sources. As the House will then see, full consideration has been given to the proposal that a Severn barrage committee be established. Some further work on assembling basic data is already in hand. I also reported to the Energy Commission on 13th February and the transcript is to be published.
Defence
Raf Germany
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Jaguar squadrons are currently deployed in RAF Germany.
Five.
Baor (Overseas Allowance)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an assurance that Her Majesty's Government have no intention of reducing the local overseas allowance of British Forces in Germany during the course of the current pay year to 31st March 1979.
As I said in my reply on 2nd May to Ouestions by the hon. Members for Clitheroe (Mr. Walder) and Gosport (Mr. Viggers), no decisions have yet been taken.
Inquiry (Press Association Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if any of the information contained in the Press Association's report of Tuesday 18th April, about which an inquiry has been instituted, was classified.
The figures contained in the Press Association's report do not carry a security classification.
Baor Personnel
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Service men stationed with British forces in the Federal Republic of Germany there are in the following categories: (a) married with their wives and families with them, (b) married with their wives and families in the United Kingdom and (c) single.
In January 1978 the position was as follows:
Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what have been the reductions in defence spending in real terms in each year since 1970 to the latest available date.
Variations in defence budget outturn between successive years over the period in question, in real terms, were as follows:
| £ million at 1977 survey prices | ||
| Year | Outturn | Difference compared with preceding year (Reductions -/increase +) |
| 1970–71 | 6,528 | — |
| 1971–72 | 6,573 | +45 |
| 1972–73 | 6,506 | -67 |
| 1973–74 | 6,415 | -91 |
| 1974–75 | 6,164 | -251 |
| 1975–76 | 6,447 | +283 |
| 1976–77 | 6,329 | -118 |
Ussr Navy
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what account he is taking in his naval plans of the forthcoming entry into service in the Soviet navy of the "Minsk" and "Kharkov" and further aircraft carriers; and whether he will make a statement.
In formulating our naval plans we naturally take into account likely developments in the threat posed by the Soviet maritime forces, including, of course, the introduction into service of Soviet aircraft carriers. We believe that our plans provide for an effective contribution to NATO's strategy of deterrence.