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Volume 953: debated on Monday 3 July 1978

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 3rd July 1978

Wales

Tenants' Rights

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proposals he has to create a package of statutory tenants' rights for local authority tenants in the Principality.

The Government propose to introduce legislation covering a number of subjects arising from the Green Paper on housing policy, including a package of legal rights for public sector tenants.

Agricultural Tenancies

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many applications for arbitration have been made in Wales under the succession of tenancies section of the Agriculture Miscellaneous Provisions Act 1976; and what were the results.

There have been 55 applications to the Agricultural Land Tribunal for direction under Section 20(5) and (6) between 1st January 1977 and 31st May 1978. No information is available on the number of applications for arbitration because the parties can themselves agree on an arbitrator. No applications have been made to my right hon. and learned Friend.

Industry

Turbine Manufacturing

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he is satisfied with the future prospects of the United Kingdom turbine manufacturing industry.

Future prospects will depend on the level of home and export orders. At home the order for Drax B will be followed by orders for nuclear plant consequent upon the decision on thermal reactor choice. As regards exports the Government will continue to do all it can to help the industry win orders following those recently announced for Hong Kong and South Korea.

Hs146

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has received any further requests for support for new civil aircraft projects since that from British Aerospace concerning the HS146.

The proposal by British Aerospace regarding the HS146 is a request for approval of the project, not financial support. My right hon. Friend has received no proposals relating to other new civil aircraft projects.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, whether he will now announce the future of the HS 146 project; and, in particular, whether he contemplates international co-operation in aspects of production.

I refer my hon. Friend to my right hon. Friend's comments during the debate on Community documents on the aeronautical sector on 28th June—[Vol. 952, c. 1463.]

Shipbuilding

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what progress he has made towards rationalising the shipbuilding industry; and if he will make a statement.

It is the responsibility of British Shipbuilders to produce a corporate plan for the industry.

Regional Policy

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will make a statement on the future development of regional policy.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to his Question on 15th May—[Vol. 950, c. 15–17.]

National Enterprise Board

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many firms have been financially supported by the National Enterprise Board; how much money was involved; how many firms have gone into liquidation; and how much money has been lost in those liquidations.

These are matters for the NEB; but the 1977 annual report, laid before the House on 4th May, gives a great deal of information.

European Regional Development Fund

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what progress was made at the Council of Ministers meeting of 6th June on the non-national quota section of the European Regional Development Fund; and what was the policy of Her Majesty's Government in discussions on the future of the Fund.

At the Council of Foreign Ministers on 6th June, it was agreed that up to 5 per cent. of the money available for the European Regional Development Fund should be allocated outside the national quotas.The Government continue to support the Fund and the assistance which it is

Members' expenses during 12 months to 31st March 1978 £Other main constituent costs during the same period £
Advisory Committee on the Census of Production95112 (estimated)
Advisory Committee for the Paper and Board Industry Scheme.90(b)
Advisory Council on Calibration and Measurement283(b)
China Clay CouncilInformation not available: public funds.no costs fall on
Clothing Industry Scheme Advisory Board133(b)
Committee for Industrial Technologies1381,430
Committee for Materials Handling1,775
Corrosion Committee2,968
Committee of Enquiry into the Engineering Profession2,8732,107
Cotton Industry War Memorial TrustInformation not available: no costs fall on public funds.
Design CouncilCosts are met from a grant-in-aid which amounted to £1,982,000 in the financial year 1977–78. Members' expenses are a matter for the Council.
Design Council Scottish Committee
Electronic Components Instrumentation and Automation Industry Support Schemes Advisory Board.7451
Industrial Development Advisory BoardNil(b)
Industrial Technologies Education and Training Committee.2,856400
Information and Publicity CommitteeNilNil
Laboratory of the Government Chemist Requirements Committee.(a)(b)
Manufacturing Machinery Advisory Committee185(b)
Manufacturing Advisory Service Steering Committee284(b)
National Committee on Computer Networks82349,759
National Electronics CouncilNil32,241
National Maritime Institute BoardNil(b)
Non-Ferrous Foundry Scheme Advisory Committee155(b)
Northern Industrial Development Board2,645(b)
North West Industrial Development Board
South West Industrial Development Board
Yorkshire and Humberside Industrial Development Board.

able to provide to the regions of the Community.

Public Bodies

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what are the bodies for which his Department is responsible which would fulfil all the criteria for inclusion in "A Directory of Paid Public Appointments Made By Ministers", produced by the Civil Service Department, except for the fact that those appointed are not paid; in respect of which of these bodies expenses are paid; what those expenses amounted to in the last 12 months for which figures are available; and what were all the other main constituent costs.

The information so far as it is available is below. In principle all Members who my right hon. Friend appoints are entitled to reimbursement of expenses necessarily incurred in the course of carrying out the duties of their appointment.

Members' expenses during 12 months to 31st March 1978

Other main constituent costs during the same period

££

Requirements Boards

Chemicals and Minerals1,0181,728
Chief Scientists'NilNil
Computers Systems and Electronics1,357821
Engineering Materials9601,586
Garment and Allied Industries1,580349
Mechanical Engineering and Machine Tools2,2881,036
Metrology and Standards900700
Ship and Marine Technology450700
Electrical TechnologyNil73
Waste Management Advisory Council603(c)(b)

( a) Travel and subsistence expenses incurred directly on the business of the organisation are normally reimbursed at the rates applicable to senior civil servants. The annual total is not readily available.

( b) In certain cases costs are incurred by officials in providing a secretariat, information on which is not readily available.

( c) Half of these expenses are met by the Department of the Environment.

Mexborough

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, taking into account the persistent high rate of unemployment in the Mexborough and district employment exchange area, if he will now give permission for another advance factory to be built.

Within the Mexborough travel-to-work area there are already two 15,000 sq. feet advance factories available at Goldthorpe and a 15,000 sq. feet terraced block and two 5,000 sq. feet factories are shortly to be built there. I will certainly keep the needs of the area under review.

Consett And Stanley

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what expansion he expects to provide for male employment opportunities in Consett and Stanley, County Durham, in the current financial year.

About 190 of the jobs forecast to be provided by regional selective assistance offered under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 are likely to be filled by men.

Industrial Common Ownership Act (Loans)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many applications for loans under the Industrial Common Ownership Act 1976 have been submitted to him; and how many have been approved.

The Act authorises the Secretary of State to make available up to £250,000 over five years to assist with the provision of small loans to worker-controlled enterprises. The scheme is administered by Industrial Common Ownership Finance Ltd. (ICOF), which has made five successful applications for funds to on-lend to co-operative and common ownership enterprises.

Telephones (Installation)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many persons in the United Kingdom are awaiting the installation of a telephone; and how long they have been waiting on average.

Regional Financial Assistance

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what procedure is followed to review the level of the cost-per-job limits imposed on any individual offer of regional financial assistance under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 in order to keep the ceiling on offers in line with inflation.

My Department is able to review and, with the agreement of the Treasury, to amend the cost-per-job limit when it is considered appropriate.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether the cost-per-job limits imposed on any individual offer of regional selective financial assistance under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 were arrived at as a result of a bilateral negotiation with the European Commission or as a result of a general arrangement whereby similar limits were imposed on offers of regional aid by other EEC Governments.

United Kingdom regional aids, like those operating in other member States of the EEC, are required to conform to the provisions laid down in the "Principles of Co-ordination of Regional Aid Systems", R/650/75, a copy of which is available in the Library of the House.This document was formulated by the Commission jointly with the member States.The cost-per-job limit conforms with the EEC requirements, although it was not a subject of negotiation as such with the Commission.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry why the Government regard the level of cost-per-job limits imposed on any individual offer of regional financial assistance to industry under Section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 as confidential.

It is not usually necessary to offer the maximum incentives available under selective financial assistance to persuade companies to implement their projects. Thus, the cost-per-job limit is confidential in order to retain flexibility in these negotiations.

Post Office Engineers (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the effect of public services of the strike by Post Office engineers.

The Post Office advises me that there is no general disruption of services but the industrial action already taken by the Post Office Engineering Union has had some effect on the provision of new telephone and telex services and its decision to ban overtime working is likely to delay the clearing of faults.

Motor Cars

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many motor cars were manufactured in Great Britain in each of the past 10 years; and how many of these were exported.

The information is as follows:

thousands
Total cars produced in the United Kingdom—of which produced for export*
19681,816803
1969l,717†824
19701,641723
19711,742714
19721,921613
19731,747605
19741,534596
19751,268532
1976l,333†565
19771,316563
* These figures may differ from exports recorded in the Overseas Trade Statistics because of differences in timing and coverage.
† 53 weeks' production.

British Shipbuilders (Profitability)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the profit or loss of British Shipbuilders from its commencement of trading up to the latest date for which this information has been supplied to him.

British Shipbuilders has informed me that its accounts for 1977–78 will show substantial losses on contracts entered into before nationalisation covering tonnage delivered in 1977–78 and that still to be completed in the current and future years. The corporation's accounts will not be finalised for some time.

Civil Servants (Acquisition Of Beneficial Knowledge)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, pursuant to evidence given by the Permanent Secretary of his Department to the Public Accounts Committee, what departmental machinery exists to ascertain whether civil servants profit from knowledge acquired during the course of their duties; when machinery was instituted; and if he will make a statement.

The Department's staff rules refer to the fact that commercially confidential information is held by the Department and stress that great care must be taken by staff to avoid even the suspicion of improper use of that information for private purposes. Staff are required under the rules to consult the Department's establishment division about the acquisition or retention of any shareholding which might cause legitimate public concern, and in particular to disclose their interest if they come into official contact with any matter concerning a business organisation in which they have an interest, for example, a shareholding. These rules are based on the general requirement that a civil servant must not make use of his official position to further his private interests, and are of very long standing.Any civil servant in breach of the rules would be liable to disciplinary action.

Cable And Wireless Limited (Board Members' Salaries)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the net salary, assuming the post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, in real terms, of the managing director and other board members of Cable and Wireless Limited in 1972 and 1978, taking 1972 as the base year; and how many places on the board are currently unfilled.

The net salaries, assuming each post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, of the managing director and of a member of the board of Cable and Wireless Limited in 1972 were £6,906·81 and £5,684·72, respectively, the latter calculated from the average of the gross salaries of full-time members.The comparable figures for 1978 in real terms, using 1972 as the base year, are £3,643 and £3,247, respectively.There are two vacancies in the formal number—12—of board members.

British Steel Corporation (Board Members' Salaries)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the net salary, assuming the post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, in real terms, of (a) the chairman, (b) the deputy chairman and (c) other board members of the British Steel Corporation in 1972 and 1978, taking 1972 as the base year; and how many places on the board are currently unfilled.

Assuming each post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, the net salaries of the chairman, deputy chairman and members of the board of the British Steel Corporation in 1972 were £12,735·08, £10,615·06 and £9,420·50 respectively, the last figure being calculated from the average of the salaries of full-time members. The comparable figures for 1978 in real terms, using 1972 as the base year, are £5414, £5066 and £4863 respectively. The Iron and Steel Act 1975 lays down that the Corporation shall consist of a chairman, and not less than seven or more than 20 other members. At the moment there are nine members other than the chairman.

Civil Servants (Air Travel)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of theilr tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Chemical Industry (Utilisation Of Plant)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what information he has on the level of utilisation of plant in the chemical industry.

The actual level of plant utilisation varies between companies and individual products, but I am aware that it is relatively low in some sectors.

Energy

Uranium Ore (Australia)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) if, in his recent successful negotiations with the Australian Government for the supply of uranium ore to the United Kingdom, he ensured that the Australian Government were aware of the relevant conditions imposed by the Euratom Treaty;(2) whether the agreement recently concluded between him and the Australian Government for the supply of uranium ore to the United Kingdom is compatible with the terms of the Euratom Treaty;(3) whether he has notified the European Commission of the terms of the agreement recently concluded between Her Majesty's Government and the Australian Government for the supply of uranium ore to the United Kingdom;(4) whether the safeguards to be applied to the uranium ore which will be supplied to the United Kingdom by the Australian Government following the recent agreement between the two Governments will be co-ordinated with the safeguard arrangements applied either by the International Atomic Energy Agency or by Euratom;(5) whether the safeguards to be applied to the uranium ore to be supplied by the Australian Government contain provisions for the free movement of the ore or any of its derivatives amongst the nine member states signatory to the Euratom Treaty;(6) if he will publish the terms of the agreement between the United Kingdom and Australian Governments for the supply of uranium ore in regard to the safeguards which the Australian Government are imposing on the use of the ore;(7) when he concluded the recent agreement with the Australian Government for the supply of uranium ore to the United Kingdom;

A nuclear safeguards agreement between the United Kingdom and Australia has been initialled by officials. Discussions on the terms of an exchange of notes between the United Kingdom and Australia on uranium supply are taking place and I hope will soon be successfully concluded. Information on these exchanges would then be made public. Any uranium supplied following these exchanges would be subject to the safeguards agreement.The Australian Government are aware of the conditions imposed by the Euratom Treaty on the supply of uranium to Community countries. The safeguards agreement that has been initialled contains specific provisions to meet the requirements of the Euratom Treaty. A copy of that agreement has been communicated to the Commission. Compliance with the agreement will be ensured by a system of safeguards applied by Euratom and the International Atomic Energy Agency in accordance with the Safeguards Agreement concluded on 6th September 1976 between the United Kingdom, Euratom and the Agency. Agency safeguards do not apply to uranium ores but commence at the stage of the fuel cycle where the material is of a composition suitable for fuel fabrication or isotopic enrichment. Euratom safeguards cover the whole fuel cycle including uranium ores.

Nationalised Industries (Board Members' Salaries)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) what was the net salary, assuming the post to be held by a married man with no dependent children in real terms, of (a) the chairman, (b) the deputy chairman and (c) other board members of the Atomic Energy Authority in 1972 and 1978, taking 1972 as the base year; and how many places on the board are currently unfilled;(2) what was the net salary, assuming the post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, in real terms, of (

a) the chairman, ( b) the deputy chairman and ( c) other board members of the area electricity boards in 1972 and 1978, taking 1972 as the base year; and how many places on the boards are currently unfilled;

(3) what was the net salary, assuming the post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, in real terms, of ( a) the chairman, ( b) the deputy chairman and ( c) other board members of the Central Electricity Generating Board in 1972 and 1978, taking 1972 as the base year; and how many places on the board are currently unfilled.

The information is being prepared and I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.

Civil Servants (Air Travel)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded under secretary and above, and also those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are allowed to travel first class only if, for example, it is essential that they accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first class travel.

House Of Commons

Members (Mortality)

41.

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will investigate the level of mortality among hon. Members since October 1974, compared with an analogous group in similar organisations, accounting for any differences.

I do not think that the number of deaths of hon. Members since October 1974 would provide a sufficient basis for comparison. Over the period 1945–78, however, the mortality amongst Members of Parliament has been at about the level experienced by similar occupational groups.

Official Paid Envelopes

asked the Lord President of the Council if the use of House of Commons official paid envelopes to send to all hon. Members a document emanating from a body styled "Committee for the Release of Ida Nudel" was in accordance with Services Committee rules.

No. Official paid envelopes should not be used for circulars of any kind whatsoever.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Fish Stocks (Conservation)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further measures he proposes to take to conserve fish stocks in United Kingdom waters.

The Government have sought the Commission's approval, in accordance with agreed procedures, to the following measures which are necessary to conserve fish stocks within United Kingdom fishery limits:

  • (a) a ban on all direct fishing for herring within United Kingdom fishery limits off the West of Scotland—ICES area VIa—with the exception of the Clyde stock, to come into effect on 6th July 1978;
  • (b) a reduction in the maximum permitted by-catch of protected species in small-mesh fisheries from 20 per cent. to 10 per cent. by weight, with the exception of nephrops fisheries, to come into effect within United Kingdom fishery limits on 11th July 1978;
  • (c) an extension for the period from 1st October to 31st March of the Eastern boundary of the current prohibited area for Norway pout fishing from the Greenwich meridian to 2 degrees East in waters under United Kingdom sovereignty or jurisdiction; and
  • (d) the prohibition in all waters within United Kingdom fishery limits of the use of nets of less than 70-mm mesh for fishing for nephrops from 1st November 1978.
  • The Commission's approval may be sought for further measures considered by Her Majesty's Government to be necessary for the conservation of fish stocks in waters under the sovereignty or jurisdiction of the United Kingdom. In this context the Government are considering the need to strengthen existing provisions on the enforcement of the minimum mesh size regulations including carriage of nets of more than one mesh size and the need to regulate herring fishing in the Irish Sea.

    Potatoes

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the total acreage of the 1978 potato crop; and what was the acreage in each of the last four years.

    It is as yet too early to be precise, but the Potato Marketing Board now estimates that about 447,000 acres—181,00 hectares—have been planted by registered producers in Great Britain. The comparable figures in the years 1974 to 1977 were as follows:

    1974467,000 acres (189,000 hectares)
    1975445,000 acres (180,000 hectares)
    1976482,000 acres (195,000 hectares)
    1977491,000 acres (199,000 hectares)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the annual import of potatoes in each of the last five years; and what is his estimate of 1978 potato imports.

    19731974197519761977
    Seed potatoesߪߪߪ2,9043,9014,6362,33510,526
    New potatoesߪߪߪ225,795228,399187,938257,413360,772
    Other potatoesߪߪߪ3,5102,163181,043371,251216,783
    It is difficult at this stage of the calendar year to estimate total imports for the whole year, but on the basis of the figures so far the Potato Marketing Board's forecast is that imports of new potatoes will be between 330,000 and 350,000 tonnes.

    Food And Feed Imports

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the total value of food and feedstuff imported into the United Kingdom in each of the last five years; what percentage of these annual amounts was in respect of indigenous food; and if he will make a statement.

    The information requested is as follows:

    Value of food and feed imports into United Kingdom in £millionValue of indigenous food as percentage of food and feed imports into United Kingdom
    19732,71058·7
    19743,35657·8
    19753,92063·5
    19764,49558·2
    1977 (prov.)5,38354·0

    Note:

    The figures of food and feed imports are taken from section O of Overseas Trade Statistics and exclude some items classified in other sections. The allocation into indigenous and non-indigenous categories is estimated and may be revised in the light of later information.

    Poultry Meat Inspection

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Fod whether other EEC countries collect charges for poultry meat inspection through a central Government tax or a tax levied through local authorities; and if EEC countries recover cost on a uniform basis or not.

    We have only limited information on the extent to which charges are made for poultry meat inspection in other EEC countries and on how such charges are made. It is apparent,

    Total imports into the United Kingdom in the last five years were as follows:—however, that charging practices vary from country to country.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how costs of recruiting and training poultry meat inspectors, and of inspectors under the Poultrymeat Hygiene Regulations will be recovered before August 1979 and after August 1979.

    For the phasing-in period for poultrymeat inspection, due to be completed in August 1979, I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mr. Corbett) on 30th June. After the service is established, it is intended that the cost of maintaining it should be covered in the charges made by local authorities for inspection.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Minister for Agriculture. Fisheries and Food how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    This information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Civil Service

    Civil Servants' Spouses (Business Interests)

    asked the Minister or the Civil Service (1) what obligations there are on civil servants to declare shareholdings, directorships and other business interests held by their spouses, especially where those interests are directly relevant to the official duties of the civil servant; and if he considers such a register of business interests to be necessary;(2) what rules govern the holding of shares, or other financial interests, by spouses of civil servants; and if there are any particular rules applying to the spouses of civil servants engaged in duties relating to the issuing of public financial assistance to private companies.

    It is a fundamental principle of the rules which govern these matters in the Civil Service that civil servants must not subordinate their duty to their private interests, neither are they to put themselves in a position where their duty and their private interests conflict, and they must not make use of their official position to further those interests. Moreover, an officer who comes into official contact with any matter concerning a business organisation in which he has an interest must disclose his interest to his Department. Subject to this, there are no specific restrictions on the outside business interests of civil servants. It is the implicit and well understood assumption that private interests may include those of a spouse The rules which are especially relevant are at paragraphs 9870, 9874 and 9876 of the Civil Service Pay and Conditions of Service Code, a copy of which is in the Library. Given the clear requirement to disclose interests, I see no need for a general register of inter-

    DepartmentPressTelevisionRadioCinemaPosters
    £££££
    1973–74
    Ministry of Defence2,892,0001,250,5005,8003,000119,600
    Department of Education and Science22,000
    Department of Employment342,9001,200
    Department of the Environment962,1001,630,90015,20031,800293,200
    Department of Health and Social Security597,000146,10083,2007,900
    Home Office977,100427,50010,800
    Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications11,000119,000
    Scottish Office157,000258,000
    Department of Trade and Industry1,180,4001,734,20017,300
    Treasury71,600
    Welsh Office4,600
    1974–75
    Civil Service Department (Counter-Inflation Publicity Unit)2,900
    Ministry of Defence2,873,9001,313,3007,0004,10012,900
    Department of Education and Science23,200
    Department of Employment741,10013,5009,500
    Department of Energy402,1001,019,900
    Department of the Environment506,2001,785,40015,800300,800
    Department of Health and Social Security646,80080,6002,000102,20017,700
    Home Office994,300558,7002,200
    Ministry of Posts and Telecommunications1,900
    Scottish Office135,000199,0004,000
    Department of Trade and Industry508,4006,600
    Welsh Office2,800

    ests. No rules have been laid down centrally which apply solely to those engaged in financial assistance to industry, but each Department is responsible for issuing a departmental rulebook which applies the general rules to its own staff.

    Dispersal

    28.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many representations he has received in the current year on dispersal of civil servants.

    I have received about 16 representations about the dispersal of Government work this year.

    Government Advertising

    33.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will give figures for Government advertising in each year since 1964, broken down by Department and type of advertising.

    I regret that information in the form requested by the hon. Member could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. However, over the past five years the amounts spent on advertising by the main Government Departments were as follows:

    Department

    Press

    Television

    Radio

    Cinema

    Posters

    £££££
    1975–76
    Civil Service Department (Counter-Inflation Publicity Unit)786,000269,500
    Ministry of Defence2,541,1001,048,3008,20010,500
    Department of Education and Science12,700
    Department of Employment245,400
    Department of Energy1,534,8001,496,70013,400186,900
    Department of the Environment339,4001,334,2003,000252,600
    Foreign and Commonwealth Office16,000
    Department of Health and Social Security668,10074,80086,90010,300
    Home Office909,200511,800
    Department of Industry487,9001,700
    Department of Prices and Consumer Protection23,000
    Scottish Office124,000145,00020,000
    Department of Trade24,300700
    Welsh Office2,600
    1976–77
    Civil Service Department (Counter-Inflation Publicity Unit)19,900
    Ministry of Defence2,506,400648,10010,300500
    Department of Education and Science16,000
    Department of Employment167,600100,500
    Department of Energy419,600297,600
    Department of the Environment62,0001,739,00068,000209,100
    Foreign and Commonwealth Office19,200
    Department of Health and Social Security1,034,900480,00018,30071,000
    Home Office655,900334,40070,200
    Department of Industry406,1005,80012,500
    Scottish Office86,000138,0003,000
    Department of Trade81,000
    1977–78
    Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food228
    Ministry of Defence2,742,600435,30026,00052,000
    Department of Education and Science33,300
    Department of Employment431,2005,700
    Department of Energy412,6001,187,100
    Department of the Environment87,900177,500
    Foreign and Commonwealth Office11,400
    Department of Health and Social Security1,182,400166,8009003,600
    Home Office1,251,400504,5002,000
    Department of Industry387,000
    Scottish Office112,000181,00013,000
    Department of Trade36,100
    Department of Transport502,2002,595,10040,00072,800429,500
    Welsh Office1,800

    The above figures represent expenditure by the Central Office of Information and the Scottish Office excluding certain television volume discounts received after the end of each financial year.

    Scientific Manpower

    30.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what effect cuts in the scientific manpower of the Civil Service have had an recruitment and promotion prospects.

    In terms of the number of vacancies advertised, recruitment in 1976 and 1977 was reduced to 40 per cent. and 45 per cent. respectively of the 1975 level. Promotion rates also appear to have been significantly lower in the science group and others, as Departments have been adjusting to the cuts, but in the longer term this factor should not significantly affect prospects.

    Public Appointments Unit

    31.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he is satisfied with the operation of the Public Appointments Unit.

    Yes. Since it was set up three years ago it has made, and continues to make, good progress.

    Compulsory Retirement

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what action he is taking to prevent the loss by the Civil Service of experienced and skilled manpower resulting from provisions for compulsory retirement on the ground of age.

    In the Civil Service there is a minimum retirement age of 60, at which time an officer may retire at his or her own wish or be retired at the instigation of the employing Department. Staff who are fit, efficient and wish to continue working, and for whom there are posts available, may be retained up to age 65 at the discretion of the head of each Department. As part of the Government's policy to reduce national unemployment, rules were introduced last year which require all civil servants to retire not later than age 65. Exceptions to this policy may be made to meet the overriding needs of the service, and staff may be retained until an appropriate replacement is available. The Civil Service retirement policy is sufficiently flexible to allow Departments to maintain continuity of experience and skills.

    Civil Service Applicants (Business Interests)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what inquiries are made into the business activities and interests of those who apply for appointment to the Civil Service prior to their appointment; and if these procedures have been in force since February 1975.

    In any competition for permanent appointment to the Civil Service, the Civil Service Commissioners ask every candidate to give full details of his career history. Where appropriate, they also seek references from current and previous employers, and from personal nominees of the candidate. Unless their attention were to be specifically drawn to a candidate's business activities or interests, however, they would not normally investigate in detail the personal circumstances of that applicant.These procedures have been in force for a number of years.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded under-secretary and above, and also those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are only allowed to travel first class if, for example, they necessarily travel in the company of a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first-class travel. I am, however, satisfied that the number of first-class air flights made by members of my Department is very limited.

    Government Employees (Ministerial Responsibility)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many Government employees come within his responsibility, and how many do not.

    The Minister for the Civil Service has a range of responsibilities in relation to expenditure on remuneration for Civil Service staff employed by central Government Departments and in relation to their terms and conditions of employment. The number of Civil Service staff in post on 1st April 1978, the nearest available date, was 735,700. However, the responsibilities of the Minister for the Civil Service extend in certain matters beyond the boundaries of the Civil Service itself. In some cases he has certain responsibilities for manpower numbers or pay or grading questions. He also has responsibilities in relation to superannuation, for example approving pension schemes which affect many employees throughout the public service.

    Education And Science

    Coquet High School, Amble

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she has given or will give the approval necessary to ensure that the new Coquet High School at Amble, Northumberland, will be ready to open in September 1980.

    My right hon. Friend approved this proposal on 30th June.

    197519761977
    Number of officials1086
    (17 journeys)(32 journeys)(20 journeys)
    Cost First Class£2,750£3,760£3,330
    Saving by economy class£920£1,100£1,115

    Lytchett Minster Comprehensive School

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what account was taken of the additional financial burden that would fall upon parents of sixth formers now at Lytchett Minster comprehensive school if they were required to attend a sixth form college at Poole; and what figure was arrived at before the issue of the relevant Section 13 notice.

    My right hon. Friend took account of all relevant factors before deciding not to approve the proposal to change the age range of pupils for whom education is provided at Lytchett Minster school from 11–16 to 11–18.As the school has never had a sixth form the question of additional travelling costs is hypothetical. Pupils wishing to continue their education beyond the age of 16 currently travel to Wimborne, which is further away than Poole.

    Teacher-Administrative Personnel Ratio

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what has been the ratio of teachers to administrative personnel in the education service for each of the past three years;(2) what has been the ratio of teachers to administrative personnel in North Yorkshire for each of the past three years;(3) what has been the ratio of teachers to administrative personnel in Cleveland for each of the past three years.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many civil servants in her Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    The information for individual local education authorities is not available. For England and Wales, the ratio of full-time teachers and lecturers to full-time non-manual, non teaching staff employed by local education authorities was respectively, January 1976, 4·85:1; January 1977, 4·85:1; 1978, 4·95:1. The latter include advisers, technicians, librarians and domestic staff. Numbers of administrative personnel are not separately available.

    Student Unions (Finance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the total amount of moneys paid by all local authorities to universities, colleges and polytechnics for use by student unions in each of the last five years.

    This information is not available. However, it is estimated that the total cost to public funds of student union membership fees for full-time students in the United Kingdom was about £13 million for the 1976–77 academic year.

    Pupil Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what has been the average expenditure per pupil in North Yorkshire for each of the past three years;(2) what has been the average expenditure per pupil in Cleveland for each of the past three years;

    (3) what has been the average expenditure per pupil in England and Wales for each of the last three years.

    Financial years

    1974–75

    1975–76

    1976–77

    (1975 survey prices)

    (1976 survey prices)

    (1977 survey prices)

    £££
    Primary214263297
    Secondary345404448
    Primary and secondary269324364

    My Department does not prepare figures of costs per pupil for each local education authority, but analyses of their estimates and expenditure, together with comparable national figures, are contained in the education statistics published annually by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy, copies of which are available in the Library.

    Employment

    Wider Opportunities Courses

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to his Written Answer to the hon. Member for Ripon, Official Report, 26th May, column 779, why no separate costing record is maintained for wider opportunities courses when unit costs are available for all other Manpower Services Commission schemes.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that a system for producing current costing information is being installed. Until then assessments are made of average place costs in arrears. The assessed cost of a wider opportunities course place, assuming full occupancy, for 1976–77 in skill-centres was £4,500 per annum. This includes the average trainee allowance of £1,900 per annum.I shall write to the hon. Member shortly about the number of persons completing wider opportunities courses with the estimated annual cost.

    Bread Strike (West Scotland)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the bread strike in the West of Scotland.

    I understand that the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service has arranged discussions

    The net institutional recurrent costs per pupil at maintained schools in England and Wales were as follows:between the parties under the independent chairmanship of Professor Ian Buchanan but that these have not so far led to a settlement. ACAS is continuing to maintain close contact with both sides.

    Job Creation (Manchester)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how much money has been allocated to the Manchester Area Board for (a) the youth opportunities programme, and (b) the special temporary employment premium; how it is expected that money will be spent; and whether he will make a statement.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that a total of £9 million has been allocated to the Greater Manchester and Lancashire Area for the youth opportunities programme and £2·9 million for the special temporary employment programme. Area boards will ensure that resources will be distributed in proportion to the numbers of unemployed people in each LEA area and are currently preparing final plans for the provision of opportunities under the programme. These plans will be considered by the Special Programmes Board at its next meeting on 24th July.

    Youth Opportunities Programme (Manchester)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people he expects to be looking for work training in the Manchester area in the current year; and what are their prospects of obtaining regular work, training or a place on the youth opportunities programme.

    It is estimated that this year approximately 34,000 young people will leave school at the statutory school leaving age in the Greater Manchester area. It is not yet possible to estimate the proportions who will go into further education, obtain regular employment or training or be offered a place on the youth opportunities programme. However, in 1977 83 per cent. of the school leavers in Greater Manchester who registered as unemployed in July had found employment or places in full-time education or training by December. It is the Government's firm intention that no Easter or summer school leaver who is still unemployed the following Easter should be without the offer of a place in the youth opportunities programme.

    Employment Protection Act (Pay Increases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many awards have been made on claims for pay increases under the provisions of Schedule 11 to the Employment Protection Act 1975; how many workers have thereby had their pay increased; and by what average amount.

    My Department has received details of 329 awards made up to the end of May 1978. In 240 the claim was established, either wholly or in part, and of these 180 were concerned solely with increases in pay rates. About 39,000 workers have been affected, of whom about 8,500 received marginal improvements in holiday entitlements. I regret that the information contained in published awards is not adequate to calculate the average amount of pay increases.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will list the major claims made under Schedule 11 to the Employment Protection Act 1975 which have resulted in awards being made by the Central Arbitration Committee.

    Trade unions making claims under the "general level" provision of Schedule 11 often do not quantify their claim. The numbers affected by individual claims also vary substantially. It is difficult therefore to distinguish "major" claims from others.

    Schoolchildren (Part-Time Employment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will carry out a study into the part-time employment of schoolchildren under 16 years of age with the aim of preventing their exploitation; and if he will make a statement.

    I am not convinced that a study by my Department of the wages paid to schoolchildren under 16 years of age in part-time employment would be justified at present. Questions about the hours of employment of school-children under 16 years of age should be addressed to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services.

    Vacancies

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will state what the figure for unfilled vacancies would have been in the last published unemployment statistics if all vacancies had been notified by employers to employment offices and job centres.

    Vacancies notified to job centres and employment offices are estimated to be about one third of all vacancies but it is not possible to make a precise estimate of total vacancies on a month to month basis.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will encourage all public bodies to notify every job vacancy to their local employment office or job centre.

    I and my colleagues are convinced of the importance of the MSC's employment service being notified of as many vacancies possible from both the public and private sector. The greater the range and number of vacancies available through the public employment service the greater is the scope to help unemployed job seekers. In our contacts with public bodies therefore we take the opportunity to encourage them to use the services provided by the MSC.

    Unemployment (Oecd Countries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the latest comparable percentage figures for unemployment in each of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development countries for which adjusted unemployment rates are available from Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development sources.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer that I gave on 26th June to the hon. Member for Leek (Mr. Knox)—[Vol. 952, c. 393.]

    Pay Settlements

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proportion of the major pay settlements reached in the past year in both the public and private sectors which are monitored by his Department, the details of which it would not be helpful to publish, as stated in his answer to the right hon. Member for Farnham on Tuesday 13th June, was: (a) above the approved guideline and (b) contained agreements regarding the minimum size of pay settlements to be granted after the current pay-round.

    In terms of employees covered, the proportion of settlements since 31st July 1977 above the guidelines is less than 2 per cent.; no tally is kept of any agreements regarding increases after the current round, which, apart from those in which the Government have already taken decisions, will fall to be considered in relation to pay policy at the time.

    Companies (Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the total number of firms employing: (a) one to 99 employees, (b) 100 to 999 employees, and (c) over 1,000 employees, for each of the following years, 1950, 1955, 1960, 1965, 1970, 1975 and 1978.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    The records of reimbursement of travel costs incurred by civil servants in my Department do not differentiate between the various forms of transport used. I am, therefore, unable to give the information requested. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded under-secretary and above, and also those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are only allowed to travel first class if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first-class travel.

    Employers' Returns

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what legislative proposals he has for increasing the fines on employers who refuse to make complete returns to local authorities about the number of workers they employ.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 27th June 1978; Vol. 952, c. 518], gave the following information:I am informed by the Chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that the Commission is currently preparing new legislative proposals to replace Section 133 of the Factories Act 1961. It is usual for the enforcement provisions, including fines, of subordinate health and safety legislation to follow those in the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act 1974, some of which have recently been increased by the Criminal Law Act 1977.

    Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many disabled people were on the disabled persons register in May of each year from 1961 to 1978; how many were employed and how many unemployed; what percentage of the total working population was represented by the number registered; and what percentage of firms was satisfying the disablement employment quota at each date.

    pursuant to his reply (Official Report, 29th June 1978; Vol. 952, c. 643], gave the following information:I am advised by the Manpower Services Commission that no comprehensive information is available about the number of registered disabled people in employment. Theoretically it should be possible to obtain this information by subtracting the number of registered disabled people unemployed from the total number on the register. However, it is not possible to give a precise estimate because the register can never be fully

    YearNumber on the register of disabled persons in AprilNumber of unemployed registered disabled people in MayNumber of people on the disabled persons register as a percentage of the total working populationNumber and percentage of firms fulfilling their quota as at 1st June
    (1)(2)(3)(4)
    1961666,45451,8802·6940,260(61·4)
    1962*656,40251,1432·6221,204(57·9)
    1963*653,36261,0342·5920,458 (57·9)
    1964655,87854,0702·5935,489(54·8)
    1965658,92546,5222·5835,323 (53·2)
    1966654,48343,9562·5533,915(51·7)
    1967655,37957,8082·5831,156(47·7)
    1968654,78864,9072·5929,584(46·3)
    1969645,54567,6112·5528,152(44·5)
    1970634,33671,8472·5227,168 (42·7)
    1971620,69180,9152·4926,155(41·8)
    1972610,10788,9392·4725,385(42·2)
    1973597,30574,2532·3824,089(41·6)
    1974574,64061,5062·2922,107 (40·0)
    1975557,21766,7712·2120,747(39·1)
    1976543,06475,2802·1319,632(38·7)
    1977532,40274,1132·0718,696(37·1)
    1978494,87769,577
    * In 1962 and 1963 a survey was made in respect of all firms with more than 500 staff but only a selection of firms with less than 500 staff, but which nevertheless had a quota obligation. The figures in column 4 above, for the years 1962 and 1963, are therefore percentages based on the number of firms reviewed in those years and not on all firms subject to quota.
    † Not yet available.

    Petroleum Licences

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what guideline was used in imposing a 150 per cent. increase in the cost of renewing petroleum licences for small filling stations operated by self-employed persons.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 30th June], gave the following information:The increased scale of fees payable with effect from 1st July 1978 for petroleum licences under the Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928 was designed to take account of the decrease in money values since 1968 when the fees were last fixed, and with a view to meeting the costs incurred by licensing authorities in issuing the licences. The scale of fees is related to the amount of petrol kept.

    International Labour Organisation (Eec Affiliation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, whether it is the intention of the Government to agree that the EEC should, as a single entity,

    up to date. Subject to this qualification, the required information at the latest dates available is in the following table:

    affiliate to the International Labour Organisation.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 29th June 1978; Vol. 952, c. 645], gave the following information:The Government support the closest possible co-operation between the EEC and the ILO. Only States can be members of the ILO and the nine States of the EEC individually are long-standing members. A liaison agreement between the two organisations was concluded in 1958.

    Defence

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded Under-Secretary and above. This facility is also available to those at Assistant Secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are allowed to travel first class only if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first class travel.

    Home Department

    Chief Police Officers (Discipline)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will elaborate his recent statement that proposals are being drawn up to change the disciplinary procedures relating to chief police officers.

    I am not yet in a position to do so. But before the Summer Recess I hope to send to the local authority associations and the Association of Chief Police Officers a document setting out proposals for possible changes. Copies of the document will be placed in the Libraries of both Houses.

    Women Prisoners

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many women are currently in prison; and how many of these are in for shoplifting offences.

    Information in the form requested could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. On 30th April 1978 there were 1,057 women serving sentences in Prison Department establishments. Of these, about 180 were serving sentences for shoplifting.

    High Point Prison, Suffolk (Prisoner's Escape)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the escape of a prisoner on 19th June from High Point Prison, Suffolk, indicating how this man was able to get away; and what steps are being taken to prevent any further incidents of this kind.

    On 19th June 1978 Anthony Hobb, a category D prisoner— that is, one who could reasonably be trusted to serve his sentence in open conditions—absconded from an outside working party at Highpoint Prison. Both his criminal record and his previous behaviour while in custody show that the decision to classify him as category D was a reasonable one. We are satisfied that the working party received the degree of supervision appropriate to category D prisoners; but various possible improvements in arrangements are being considered.

    Prisoners

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will ensure that the United Nations standard minimum rules for the treatment of prisoners form part of the training of prison staff of all grades.

    Considerable time is devoted in staff training programmes to the Department's own rules and instructions which reflect the United Nations standard minimum rules. A copy of the international rules would be made available to any officer wishing to study them.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what was the population of prison service establishments for the years 1967 to 1977, inclusive;(2) how many adult women were received into prison for the years 1967 to 1977, inclusive;(3) how many non-criminal prisoners were received into prison for the years 1971 to 1976, inclusive;(4) how many people were received into prison for default of payment of a fine for the years 1967 to 1977, inclusive;(5) how many male young persons between 17 and 21 years were received under sentence in Prison Department establishments for the years 1971 to 1977, inclusive;(6) how many female young persons between 17 and 21 years were received under sentence in Prison Department establishments for the years 1971 to 1977, inclusive.

    The information requested for 1967 to 1976 appears in "Report of the Work of the Prison Department 1976: Statistical Tables", Cmnd. 6884.The relevant tables are:

    Table1.4—prison population
    "5.5—adult females
    "6.2—non criminal prisoners
    "7.2—fine defaulters
    "3.5—sentenced prisoners aged 17 to 20
    The information requested for 1977 is not yet available.

    Immigrants (Detention)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total number of persons currently detained as suspected illegal immigrants; how many of these are not the subject of court proceedings, either because of their having been detained at the point of entry on arrival or for any other reason; how many of those not the subject of court proceedings have been in detention for longer than 14 days; and what were the corresponding figures for 1976 and 1977.

    On 31st May 1978 a total of 106 persons were detained as illegal entrants. Of these, 80 were detained solely on the authority of an immigration officer and were not the subject of court proceedings. These included 66 who had been in detention for longer than 14 days. Corresponding figures for 1976 and 1977 are not available.

    Immigration (Ministerial Responsibility)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the recent change of responsibilities for immigration matters among Ministers in his Department represent in any way a change of policy or emphasis on immigration by Her Majesty's Government; and if he will make a statement.

    The changes which I have made in ministerial responsibilities within my Department do not indicate any change in policy or emphasis on immigration.

    "Hungarian Group"

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, when he has completed his investigation of the immigration status of the foreign members of the group known as the Hungarians, he will publish the report.

    I shall consider in due course what action to take under the Immigration Act 1971 in each case. The question of publishing a report does not, therefore, arise, but I shall be glad to give details about these cases in the normal way in due course, if requested.

    Television Reception (North Wales)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proposals he has in mind for the improvement of television reception in the general area of Llanrwst, Capel Garmon Llngernyw and Pentrefoelas, North Wales.

    The broadcasting Authorities are primarily responsible for extending and improving the UHF coverage of their television services. The BBC tells me the UHF television coverage in the Llanrwst area should be satisfactory. Nevertheless, at a meeting on 28th June with representatives of the local communities concerned, the BBC promised that it would carry out further detailed surveys in the four areas to determine whether, and to what extent, improvements might be made.

    Prisoners (Life Sentences)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will state the actual or estimated total costs of keeping in prison the 1,366 prisoners serving life sentences at the end of April 1978, of which some 64 were in open prisons.

    The cost of keeping a life sentence prisoner in a particular establishment is not separately recorded, but the best estimate is that, during 1977–78, the total cost of maintaining all prisoners serving life sentences was about £6·5 million.

    Attendance Centres

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will publish the notes of guidance from the Home Office to officers in charge of attendance centres; in how many cases the notes of guidance are known not to have been complied with for junior and senior attendance centres in the last two years; and what action was taken subsequently.

    The "Notes for the Guidance of the Officer in Charge", unlike the rules governing the organisation and conduct of attendance centres contained in S.I. 1990 of 1958, have no statutory authority but cover mainly minor management and administrative matters. There is, therefore, no question of checking compliance with them in every minor detail. The notes are currently being revised and a copy of the revised edition will be placed in the Library of the House when it is available.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many attendance centres were inspected by the Home Office in 1977; and whether the Department of Health and Social Security reports on attendance centres will be published.

    Although members of the Home Office staff visit attendance centres, they do not carry out inspections. The junior attendance centres are inspected at regular intervals by officers of the social work service of the Department of Health and Social Security, who act as professional advisers to the Home Office. Forty-three of the 60 junior attendance centres were inspected in 1977. The reports are for internal management purposes and I do not consider that it would be appropriate to publish them.Neither of the two senior centres was inspected in 1977.

    Fines (Juveniles)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what guidance the Home Office proposes to give to courts regarding Section 36 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 empowering courts, if in all the circumstances it is reasonable, to make orders transferring fines from juveniles to their parents or guardians; and what consultations have taken place with relevant statutory, professional and voluntary organisations in framing the guidance.

    Section 36 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 extends the power in the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 for courts to order a parent, in certain circumstances, to pay a fine incurred by his child. The courts' attention has been drawn to this new provision, but it would be inappropriate for the Home Office to issue guidance to them on how they should exercise the discretion which it gives them, since the independence of the judiciary is central to our legal system.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department under what circumstances a parent or guardian can be sent to prison for non-payment of a fine transferred from a juvenile under Section 36 of the Criminal Law Act 1977.

    A fine transferred to a parent or guardian under Section 36 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 may be enforced as if it had been imposed on the conviction of the parent or guardian. Section 44, as amended, of the Criminal Justice Act 1967, which deals with imprisonment for non-payment of fines, is therefore applicable.

    Wing Commander Frederick Simmonds

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why he prevented ex-Wing Commander Frederick Simmonds from entering Great Britain to visit his sick mother some two years ago whilst he was enabled recently to visit his mother and stay in Great Britain for one month; and whether he will make a statement.

    Wing Commander Simmonds is subject to passport and travel restrictions under the terms of the statement made to this House on 27th June 1968 by the Secretary of State for Commonwealth Affairs. He was refused entry on 14th May 1977 by virtue of article 5 of the Southern Rhodesia (Immigration Act 1971) Order 1972. I have seen a report that he visited this country recently and if this report is accurate it appears that his liability to be refused entry was not detected by the immigration officer.

    Muggings And Robberies (Reporting)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give an assurance that no instructions, advice or requests have been issued or circulated by the Home Office for the police and the Press or any other organisation, requesting or insisting that when reporting muggings or robberies the suspect's colour or country of origin should not be given; and whether he will ensure that full and complete descriptions of all suspects will be given which may lead to their arrest.

    The Home Office has issued no such instructions, advice or requests, and has no plans to do so. I have no power to issue directions to the police or the Press about the sort of information they should make public. It is for the police to decide what information, if any, to make available to the Press in order to assist their inquiries.

    Bail (Former Convicted Persons)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will take steps to revise the procedure by which chronic offenders in Great Britain are given access to bail;(2) what steps he will take to reverse the growing tendency for violent criminals previously convicted of crimes like armed robbery to commit new crimes of violence while on bail.

    The law already provides for the refusal of bail where the court is satisfied that there are substantial grounds for believing that the defendant would commit a further offence.

    Metropolitan Police

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he plans to act in response to the observation made by the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis in his annual report for 1977 that London policemen are underpaid and for that reason leaving the force; and if he will make a statement.

    Police pay, and its implications for police strengths, have been studied by the Edmund-Davies Committee. The committee received evidence, from the Commissioner among others, on the special problems of London. The committee's report will be presented to Parliament and published soon.

    Hotels (Fires)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many fires are known to have taken place in hotels in England and Wales in each of the last 10 years; and how many people have lost their lives in such fires in each of the last 10 years.

    Numbers of fires in hotels in England and Wales reported by local authority fire brigades and numbers of deaths resulting from these fires for the years 1967 to 1974 and 1976 are shown in the following table. This information is not available for 1975, because some brigades were unable to report details of all fires attended, and is not yet available for 1977.

    ENGLAND AND WALES
    YearNumber of firesNumber of deaths
    19677109
    196875620
    196974015
    19707939
    197174615
    197281910
    197384814
    197487030
    19767977

    Prison Officers (Murders)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prison officers have been murdered in the courses of their duties in England and Wales during each of the past 10 years.

    Books And Magazines (Police Seizure)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis on (a) the number and ranks of police, and the number of vehicles engaged during the past 12 months or the longest convenient period of time in seizing magazines from newsagents and bookshops, (b) the number of raids and the number of books and magazines seized, (c) the estimated cost, (d) the areas in the Metropolitan Police district in which the raids took place, and (e) what action ensued since the raids.

    I understand from the Commissioner that between the beginning of 1977 and the end of May this year 611 searches were conducted throughout the Metropolitan Police District under Section 3 of the Obscene Publications Act 1969. On the basis of the reports so far received centrally, some 8,300 books and nearly 900,000 magazines were seized. When property is seized under the authority of a warrant issued under the Act, consideration is given to the institution of proceedings; no material may be forfeited without a court order. I regret that the other information requested is not readily available.

    Police (Manpower)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the present number of police officers and of other employees of constabularies in

    30TH APRIL 1978
    Police strength ordinary dutyTraffic wardensCadetsCivilians (Part time staff 2 to 1 basis)
    Avon and Somerset2,74815130613
    Bedfordshire840522252
    Cambridgeshire1,0135314287
    Cheshire1,72458392
    Cleveland1,2773516296
    Cumbria1,0102814250
    Derbyshire1,4968949593
    Devon and Cornwall2,60813925740
    Dorset1,091529271
    Durham1,2702837514
    Dyfed Powys9083110188
    Essex2,3351092657
    Gloucestershire1,0363817225
    Greater Manchester6,282221631,356
    Gwent95222197
    Hampshire2,812107101677
    Hertfordshire1,4659936373
    Humberside1,7806517504
    Kent2,66214570847
    Lancashire3,03395104860
    Leicestershire1,6458754342
    Lincolnshire1,1362924283
    Merseyside4,231131900
    Norfolk1,2175320239
    Northamptonshire8683911251
    Northumbria3,175135762
    North Wales1,2434322309
    North Yorkshire1,2715620339
    Nottinghamshire2,0559783545
    South Wales2,86110821824
    South Yorkshire2,4937464577
    Staffordshire1,9425233578
    Suffolk1,0074731306
    Surrey1,4552627359
    Sussex2,64713225708
    Thames Valley2,65610254911
    Warwickshire8483027204
    West Mercia1,6126839473
    West Midlands5,7582171811,389
    West Yorkshire4,573140981,150
    Wiltshire9534728249
    City of London81749264
    Metropolitan21,7991,48457112,008
    Totals106,6044,8632,04934,062

    England and Wales; and how these numbers compare with the position five years earlier.

    Figures for individual police forces and national totals on 30th April 1974 and 30th April 1978 are given in the table below. Total figures only for 30th April 1973 are shown separately. Comparative figures for individual forces cannot be given owing to changes arising from local government reorganisation.

    30TH APRIL 1974

    Police strength ordinary duty

    Traffic wardens

    Cadets

    Civilians (Part time staff 2 to 1 basis)

    Avon and Somerset2,57018292607
    Bedfordshire7707835235
    Cambridgeshire9406151287
    Cheshire1,5616864378
    Cleveland1,2864545389
    Cumbria1,0003335224
    Derbyshire1,399112111522
    Devon and Cornwall2,528159125678
    Dorset1,0135038249
    Durham1,2463955496
    Dyfed Powys8203426182
    Essex2,12013398642
    Gloucestershire9194643223
    Greater Manchester5,5822962181,134
    Gwent8972639189
    Hampshire2,622111105620
    Hertfordshire1,27513969378
    Humberside1,6837536434
    Kent2,197208113845
    Lancashire2,757118189875
    Leicestershire1,50613587328
    Lincolnshire1,0984250250
    Merseyside3,86718699778
    Norfolk1,1376237237
    Northamptonshire7664248208
    Northumbria3,10516571651
    North Wales1,1245156286
    North Yorkshire1,1836442315
    Nottinghamshire1,964113132433
    South Wales2,77113888713
    South Yorkshire2,316118101438
    Staffordshire1,8925891545
    Suffolk9875749276
    Surrey1,2634753312
    Sussex2,43714899603
    Thames Valley2,709140114837
    Warwickshire7393849197
    West Mercia1,45681103440
    West Midlands5,2312782431,320
    West Yorkshire4,3682002371,156
    Wiltshire8575557235
    City of London7899031237
    Metropolitan20,7251,87363111,812
    Totals99,4756,1944,15532,194

    30TH APRIL 1973
    Police strength ordinary duty99,031
    Traffic wardens6,493
    Cadets4,110
    Civilians29,502

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    Such information as is readily available indicates that the number of civil servants in the Home Office who travelled first class by air on official journeys in the years 1975, 1976 and 1977 were 35, 33 and 20 and that the costs of their tickets were £8,390, £12,036 and £7,106 respectively. I regret that further information cannot be obtained except at disproportionate cost.

    Hotels (Fire Precautions)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many hotels in England and Wales have received the appropriate certification under the Fire Precautions Act 1971; how many applications are still pending; and how many hotels and boarding houses have closed down since 1971 in consequence of the Fire Precautions Act 1971.

    By 31st December 1977, fire authorities in England and Wales had issued fire certificates in respect of 15,871 hotels and boarding houses; 6,059 premises had been inspected and issued with a notice of steps to be taken for the purpose of certification; 6,560 applications remained to be dealt with. No accurate information is available as to the number of hotels and boarding houses which have closed specifically in consequence of the Fire Precautions Act 1971.

    Orpington (Police Station)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the plans for the building of a police station in Orpington.

    Some reassessment of the operational needs of the area, and thereby of the plans for the station, has been found necessary. In present circumstances of restraint on capital allocations it is not possible to say when a start on this scheme will be made.

    Firearms Certificates

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, pursuant to the statement by the hon. Member for Halifax (Dr. Summerskill) in the Third Standing Committee on Statutory Instruments that the Government were obliged by statute to raise fees for firearms certificates at requisite intervals, he will list the statutory provisions under which he is so obliged, rather than enabled.

    My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State did not say that the Government were obliged by statute to raise fees for firearms certificates at requisite intervals. She drew attention to the view of Parliament, reflected in the Public Expenditure and Receipts Act 1968, that the full costs of granting and renewing the appropriate licences and certificates should be borne by people engaging in activities controlled in the public interest.

    Metropolitan Police (Thames Division)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if cuts have been made in the number of police patrol boats on the lower reach of the Thames; what has been the effect on the operational capability of the police; how many boats can now operate at any one time and over how many miles of river; and if he will make a statement.

    The Thames Division of the Metropolitan Police is responsible for policing some 54 miles of river and currently has 30 boats of which up to 11 may be on the river at any one time. To ensure the most effective deployment of his resources throughout the whole of the Metropolitan Police District and taking account of the changed pattern of traffic on the river, the Commissioner has decided that there should be a reduction in the number of police officers, patrol boats and police stations in the Thames Division. In order to maintain the effectiveness of the division, the changes will coincide with the introduction of new and faster boats in the tidal section of the river. The introduction of new boats of a different model in the upper reaches is being considered. Phased changes within the division were due to commence on 1st July and are expected to be completed by 1st September 1979.

    Working Party On Water Safety

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department which recommendations of the Working Party on Water Safety he accepts; when he proposes to implement them; and if if he will make a statement.

    Consultation on various aspects of the Working Party's report has been initiated. Beyond that I cannot at present add to the reply that I gave to the Question by the hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Mr. Ross) on 24th May.—[Vol. 950, c. 383–84.]

    African Political Organisations (United Kingdom Headquarters)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what steps he has taken to ensure that identifiable representatives of African terrorist organisations such as ZAPU and ZANLA are not permitted to enter the United Kingdom or to establish either representative or operational headquarters in the United Kingdom; and whether he will close down any such headquarters as already exist and withdraw the residence permits of those already in the United Kingdom.

    Under British law any organisation is free to set up and maintain an office in this country provided that the activities of the office and of its occupants remain within the law. Cases of persons seeking to enter the United Kingdom are considered on their merits, but membership of the organisations mentioned by the hon. Member would not of itself constitute grounds for refusal.

    Overseas Development

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development how many civil servants in her Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; and what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded Under-Secretary and above, and also those at Assistant Secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are allowed to travel first class only if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first class travel.

    Prices And Consumer Protection

    Currency Note Validators

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection when he intends to make provision for the testing of the new De La Rue note acceptor machinery consequent upon the reduction in the size of the pound note.

    The examination of a currency note validator to interwork with an approved pattern of weighing or measuring equipment is regarded as a modification to the approved pattern and as such it is conducted without undue delay on the part of the Department. For reasons of commercial confidentiality, however, I cannot make public, information on the progress of particular submissions.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. Entitlement to first class air travel is normally restricted to officers at Under-Secretary level and above, and to those at Assistant Secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are allowed to travel first class only if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first class air travel.

    Trade

    European Community Trade Mark Office

    23.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade when he expects to bring forward specific proposals to secure that the registry of the European Community Trade Mark Office is sited in the United Kingdom, particularly in view of the fact that the European Patent Office was placed on the Continent; and when he expects a decision to be taken by the Council of Ministers.

    The Commission does not expect to put proposals for the creation of a European Community Trade Mark to the Council of Ministers before the spring of 1980 and there will be no early decision on the site of the registry.The Government have already made clear to their Community partners their wish that the registry should he located in London and I will inform the House shortly of more specific proposals which I shall be making.

    British Airways (Board Members' Salaries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the net salary, assuming the post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, in real terms, of (a) the chairman, (b) the deputy chairman and (c) other board members of British Airways in 1972 and 1978, taking 1972 as the base year; and how many places on the board are currently unfilled.

    The net salary after tax in 1972, and in real terms in 1978, using 1972 as a base, was the following for the chairman—equivalent full-time rate—deputy chairman, and a board member—using the average salary of other full-time board members:

    19721978
    ££
    Chairman9,4605,027
    Deputy Chairman9,3764,793
    Board Member7,4814,190
    The chairman was working less than full-time for a proportionate salary in both years. There are no vacancies on the board.

    British Airports Authority (Board Members' Salaries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the net salary, assuming the post to be held by a married man with no dependent children, in real terms, of (a) the chairman, (b) the deputy chairman and (c) other board members of the British Airports Authority in 1972 and 1978, taking 1972 as the base year; and how many places on the board are currently unfilled.

    The net salary after tax in 1972, and in real terms in 1978, using 1972 as a base, was the following for the chairman—equivalent full-time rate—and a board member—using the average of other full-time board members:

    19721978
    ££
    Chairman8,2614,405
    Board Member6,7103,639
    The chairman was working less than full-time for a proportionate salary in 1972. The deputy chairman was a part-time board member in both years. There are two vacancies on the board.

    "Al Faiah" (Straits Of Dover Incident)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will make a statement about the circumstances in which the "Al Faiah" sailed the wrong way up the Dover Straits separation scheme on 28th April and about the part played by Her Majesty's coastguards at St. Margaret's Bay in preventing an accident occurring.

    Following a compass failure, the "Al Faiah" inadvertently entered the south-west traffic lane while steering a northerly course in contravention of the requirements of the Dover Strait separation scheme. Fortunately, this deviation was immediately observed by the coastguard, and the master was alerted to his vessel's danger. The vigilance of the coastguard and the prompt and skilful response of the master averted a possible grounding and pollution.

    Straits Of Dover (Ship Control)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what further measures he proposes to tighten control of ships in the Straits of Dover.

    Ships in the Dover Strait are already required to comply with the requirements of the traffic separation scheme. In consultation with the French Government, we are urgently examining further measures to improve the safety of navigation there, including reporting-in by certain vessels.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. Entitlement to first-class air travel is normally restricted to officers at undersecretary level and above, and to those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are allowed to travel first class only if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first-class air travel.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Attorney-General how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    The details requested are as follows:

    YearNumber of officials (and journeys)Cost of ticketsEstimated saving by economy class
    ££
    1975–76
    1976–772(3)469145
    1977–781(1)859369

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded under-secretary and above, and also those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours' flying time without a break. Other civil servants are allowed to travel first class only if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first-class travel.

    asked the Lord President of the Council how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    Three, when accompanying Ministers. The total cost of the tickets was £1,012·80. Economy class travel would have saved £362·20.

    Prime Minister (Engagements)

    24.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 3rd July.

    This morning I opened the exhibition "A Right to Vote" in Westminster Hall and later today I shall be host at a reception at 10 Downing Street to celebrate 50 years of equal voting rights. In addition, I shall be holding meetings with ministerial colleagues and others.

    Tuc

    asked the Prime Minister when next he intends to meet the Trades Union Congress.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, East (Mr. Thomas) on 15th June.

    £ Sterling

    asked the Prime Minister whether, pursuant to the remarks made by the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, Official Report, 26th June, columns 1175–6, he now intends to raise at the Summit the question of the £ sterling rejoining an enlarged European currency snake.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave him on 20th June.

    National Finance

    Nationalised Industries (Investment)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing investment, calculated per head of the population in each country of the United Kingdom, by the nationalised industries over the past 10 years; and if he will express the figures at constant prices.

    The table below gives, for the nine years 1968–69 to 1976–77, the amounts of fixed capital formation and other capital expenditure of nationalised industries which can be identified as having been incurred in each

    IDENTIFIABLE CAPITAL EXPENDITURE BY NATIONALISED INDUSTRIES PER HEAD OF POPULATION
    £ at 1976–77 prices
    EnglandScotlandWalesNorthern Ireland
    ££££
    1968–6958548331
    1969–7050537332
    1970–7157594834
    1971–7253605139
    1972–7349635544
    1973–7446563339
    1974–75*54856843
    1975–76591119867
    1976–77528611165
    * See text.

    Clearing Banks (Non-Interest-Bearing Balance)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much income the Bank of England takes in per year on the legally-required maintenance of a non-interest-bearing balance by clearing banks of 1½ per cent. of their eligible liabilities.

    There is no such legal requirement. The arrangements referred to were agreed between the Bank of England and the clearing banks in 1971.

    Statistical Returns

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to review the costs and problems borne by financial institutions in providing the wide range of statistical returns currently required of them by law.

    country of the United Kingdom, expressed as £ per head of the population. Figures for 1977–78 are not yet available.

    The figures for each country are expressed at constant 1976–77 prices, using price deflators appropriate to all capital expenditure of United Kingdom nationalised industries, derived from the records of the public expenditure survey. They must be regarded as broad estimates only.

    For comparability, the figures include the Northern Ireland electricity service. However, the extent to which expenditure can be identified varies between countries and different years. In particular, the figures for 1973–74 and earlier years exclude expenditure of the British Steel Corporation.

    The Government need good statistical information for monetary policy purposes. Consistent with these needs, a close watch is kept on the burden imposed by statistical forms, and all those sent to financial institutions by Government Departments are vetted by the survey control unit in the Central Statistical Office. Relatively few of these are required by law.The Bank of England is responsible for the collection of most statistics from banks and is very conscious of the costs borne by respondents in supplying this information.

    Ulster Defence Regiment (Bounty)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether a bounty given to part-time members of the Ulster Defence Regiment is tax-free; and what other bounties paid from public funds are tax-free.

    Bounties are in general taxable, but a bounty paid to a member of the reserve or auxiliary forces, including the Ulster Defence Regiment, in consideration of his undertaking specified training and attaining a prescribed standard of efficiency is exempt from tax.

    Taxpayers

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish figures showing the number of people who paid income tax in 1950, 1960, 1965, and each year since 1970, including an estimate for 1978–79.

    The figures are as follows:

    '000s
    1950–5115,800
    1960–6119,250
    1965–6619,330
    1970–7120,040
    1971–7219,680
    1972–7318,930
    1973–7419,810
    1974–7520,530
    1975–7620,920
    1976–77 (provisional)21,170
    1977–78 (provisional)20,410
    1978–79 (estimated)21,040
    Married couples are counted as one.

    Tax Revenue

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing for 1977–78, for the latest available period, the taxation revenue obtained from Wales, analysed by the normal headings for such revenue.

    Such information as is available is as follows:

    Taxation revenue in Wales 1977–78 (receipts)
    £ million
    Taxes on personal incomes675
    Taxes on capital20
    Taxes on expenditure (excluding rates)710
    Employees' national insurance etc. contributions170
    Employers' national insurance etc. contributions250
    Local authority rates190
    All of these figures should be treated as approximate since most taxes are collected for the United Kingdom as a whole rather than by areas.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will update the information on tax revenue given to the hon. Member for Cornwall, North, Official Report, 9th December 1975, c. 109.

    The information is given in the table below. The revised estimates for 1964 to 1974 stem mainly from minor changes in concept, and in the basis of recording receipts of income tax in the national accounts described on page 121 of "National Income and Expenditure 1966–76".

    PERCENTAGE OF CENTRAL GOVERNMENT (INCLUDING NATIONAL INSURANCE FUNDS) REVENUE
    Taxes on IncomeTaxes on Expenditure
    196440·137·2
    196540·136·7
    196640·836·2
    196742·036·1
    196840·737·2
    196940·538·4
    197041·536·7
    197141·735·5
    197240·534·5
    197341·233·1
    197444·529·7
    197545·628·0
    197644·028·4
    197741·631·2
    Central Government revenue has been taken as the current account receipts of central Government, comprising taxes on income and expenditure, national insurance contributions, rent, dividends and interest, gross trading surplus and an imputed charge for consumption of non-trading capital. Taxes on income and expenditure as defined in this answer exclude national insurance contributions, capital taxes and local authority rates. These figures are not therefore strictly comparable with those in recent replies to the hon. Member for Cornwall, North on the balance of taxation which gave a complete picture of the burden as a whole.

    Public Sector Borrowing Requirement

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what studies he has established into alternative means of financing the Government's borrowing requirements; when he expects them to be complete; and if he will report them to the House.

    A number of changes affecting the way financial markets operate, and Government debt is sold, have been made during the past 18 months. For example, the first issues of variable rate gilt-edged stocks have been made; certain new issues have been offered with the total amount of the subscriptions staged over a period of several weeks; and the Bank of England's minimum lending rate is now set directly by the authorities instead of depending automatically on the Treasury Bill discount rate at each Friday's tender. My officials, in consultation with the Bank of England, keep constantly under review the possibility of further changes to improve the functioning of financial markets and facilitate the economical funding of Government borrowing needs. In view of the continuing need to respond to changes to financial markets and in the economy more generally, I see this work as an ongoing process rather than as one which will reach a final conclusion at a particular time. I shall be ready to give the House full details of future changes as and when it seems appropriate to make them.

    Burmah Oil Company (Bp Stock)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects to be able to reach a settlement with the Burmah Oil Company in respect of its request for the return of its shareholding of British Petroleum ordinary stock.

    The claim by the Burmah Oil Company Limited against

    (a)(b)(c)(d)
    ReceivedCleared/withdrawnRefusedWithdrawn
    Year to:
    31st March 1973989848141N.A.
    31st March 1974972834138N.A.
    31st March 1975966835131N.A.
    31st March 1976763641122N.A.
    31st March 1977841713128N.A.
    (b)
    Cleared
    31st March 19781,11999211611
    Many of the applications refused are later resubmitted in revised form and cleared. Detailed figures ate not available.

    Special Offices

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the special offices so far set up and the number of people employed in them.

    The Inland Revenue has so far set up four special offices, located in Edinburgh, London, the Bank of England in respect of the Bank's acquisition from it in 1975 of British Petroleum ordinary stock is currently the subject of litigation.

    Income Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the average tax paid by working single parents of a child or children aged under five years; and what would be the cost to the Exchequer it each of these families were allowed to set an average of £500 a year extra as expenses to be deducted from taxable income.

    Income And Corporation Taxes Act 1970

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many applications for clearance under Section 464 of the Income and Corporation Taxes Act 1970, were made in each of the past six years of assessment; how many clearances were granted; how many applications were refused; and how many applications were withdrawn.

    The numbers of Section 464 applications are as follows:Manchester and Birmingham—Solihull. The present total complement, including typists, is 69.

    Double Tax Convention (United States Of America)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement about the Anglo-American double tax convention recently ratified by Her Majesty's Government in the light of the decision of the United States Senate.

    I will let the hon. and learned Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    Taxation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing for each year since 1945 (a) the total number of people employed in the Inland Revenue, including tem-

    YearStaff in postEstimated number of taxpayers ('000's)Number of employees per £1 million of income tax
    1.2.3.
    1944–4535,74514,50025·8
    1945–4643,84815,25030·4
    1946–4749,28314,00040·0
    1947–4849,26614,60038·3
    1948–4949,50714,50033·9
    1949–5049,75915,05032·1
    1950–5152,99815,80034·5
    1951–5253,26016,15029·4
    1952–5351,75615,40027·5
    1953–5451,65315,90027·9
    1954–5550,53316,55025·2
    1955–5651,49316,30024·7
    1956–5751,46617,10022·5
    1957–5852,21417,35021·9
    1958–5952,98117,69021·3
    1959–6056,04318,37023·4
    1960–6158,16819,25022·2
    1961–6257,25319,85019·4
    1962–6359,76920,13019·9
    1963–6458,02217,81019·8
    1964–6557,70818,49017·6
    1965–6659,51819,33015·3
    1966–6762,70019,69018·0
    1967–6865,71420,01016·2
    1968–6965,46820,72014·3
    1969–7069,27520,57013·4
    1970–7171,84420,04012·0
    1971–7276,79219,68011·3
    1972–7375,68018,93011·1
    1973–7477,10519,81010·4
    1974–7580,43220,5307·7
    1975–7682,93320,9205·5
    1976–7784,57221,170*5·0
    1977–7885,32920,410*4·9
    * Provisional.

    Notes to column headings

    1. These are the total number of staff in post on 1st April each year including temporary staff. They include staff, particularly in the valuation offices, who are not normally concerned with the assessment and collection of direct taxes.

    2. These are the numbers paying income tax, married couples being counted as one.

    3. Surtax is included in "income tax". Income tax is now primarily a tax on the income of individuals, but until corporation tax was introduced by the Finance Act 1965 it included tax on the income of corporate bodies; from 1973–74 income tax excludes tax credits on individuals corresponding to advance corporation tax payments made by companies.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each porary staff, (b) the total number of people paying direct taxes and (c) the number of Revenue employees per £1 million of income tax collected.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 23rd June 1978; Vol. 952, c. 346], gave the following reply:The figures are given in the table below:of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    Tax Arrears

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much tax was owed but written off in each of the last 10 years for which figures are available; and how much of each annual figure was due to arrears in which taxes.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 29th June 1978; Vol. 952, c. 655], gave the following reply:

    YearTotalPurchase TaxValue Added Tax and Car TaxBetting and Gaming DutiesImport DutiesOther Duties
    ££££££
    1967–68735,010350,389260,186105,18819,247
    1968–69351,892241,2937,41295,5437,644
    1969–70639,688422,28739,93062,354115,117
    1970–71396,582219,474125,10422,97429,030
    1971–72959,607653,260259,74838,4888,111
    1972–73547,036483,54622,74229,82310,925
    1973–74882,509685,6266,27195,26695,183163
    1974–751,269,303971,608162,10752,97279,0083,508
    1975–762,469,595908,2371,280,954151,494117,59011,320
    1976–778,359,7383,624,3564,165,070422,650121,53126,131

    Back Duty Inquiries

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many back duty inquiries currently are being conducted by the Inland Revenue which relate to years of assessment ended on or prior to 5th April 1960.

    Limited Liability Companies

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in which circumstances the Bank of England intervenes in the affairs of limited liability companies other than banks.

    Social Services

    Silicosis And Pneumoconiosis

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied that the techniques available to the medical authorities in Wales are sufficient adequately to identify the extent to which a patient suffers from silicosis and pneumoconiosis.

    The available information on Inland Revenue and Customs and Excise duties and taxes is published in the Comptroller and Auditor-General's Report each year. The amounts remitted or written off as irrecoverable by the Inland Revenue for the accounting years 1967 to 1976 inclusive were also published in Table 9 of the 120th Annual Report of the Board of Inland Revenue—Cmnd. 7092.

    A corresponding table for Customs and Excise duties and taxes is as follows:

    Yes. When assessing the degree of disablement caused by pneumoconiosis—which includes silicosis—the pneumoconiosis medical boards consider the occupational history, the medical history and reports, X-rays, lung function tests and the results of their own clinical examination. The reliability of the techniques used has been shown by research and long experience. If the hon. Member has a particular case in mind I shall be pleased to look into it.

    Benefit Recipients

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services approximately how many people are receiving a net income of £115 a week or more purely from State benefits of the various categories available.

    I regret that the information requested by the hon. Member is not available, but I would expect such a situation to arise very rarely.

    Drugs (Sales Promotion)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, pursuant to the reply to the hon. Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, East—Official Report, 5th August 1976, column 1020, he will (a) list the kinds of research activity by general medical practitioners which could involve a breach of their terms of service and (b) indicate any such regulations which could be held to have been contravened in the course of the promotional trial in question.

    A general practitioner's terms of service require him to order, by issuing a National Health Service prescription, any drugs or appliances which are needed for his patient's treatment. Provided the research activity falls within these requirements and no fee is received for treatment he would be unlikely to be in breach of his terms of service so far as prescribing is concerned. However, this is a matter which would have to be investigated by a service committee by reference to the facts of the particular case; and since a practitioner found in breach has a right of appeal to the Secretary of State against that finding it would not be right for me to comment further on the particular trial to which my hon. Friend refers.

    Pacemakers

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what arrangements are being made to increase the availability of heart pacemakers in the United Kingdom similar to those manufactured by the company Transmedics, of Texas, with a variable rate of operation and batteries which last at least eight years; how many such American pacemakers are on order; and what comparable British machines exist.

    Such pacemakers are already widely available and may be provided if thought necessary by the consultant to meet the essential clinical needs of a patient. My Department has no information about the number of such American pacemakers on order by the NHS. There is no comparable British machine.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what considerations decisions are based whether to give heart pacemakers, manufactured in America, to British NHS patients; and what action is being taken to make advanced pacemakers which do not require new batteries for at least eight years more available to British National Health Service patients in need of pacemakers.

    The decision as to the type of heart pacemaker to be provided is made by a consultant on the basis of the suitability of the pacemaker to meet the essential clinical needs of the patient. Pacemakers powered by lithium iodide batteries—with a claimed life of up to eight years—may be provided, but if the needs of the patient could be met by a pacemaker using a mercury cell—with a life of about three years—it would be for the health authority to decide whether the more expensive lithium-powered appliance should be supplied. Several types of lithium-powered pacemakers, made in the United States of America and in other countries, are available in this country.

    National Health Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what research he has commissioned, or is being done, to discover why National Health Service patients are more demanding than they were in earlier decades; and what steps could be taken to alleviate the strains in the National Health Service by motivating patients to use National Health Service services more responsibly.

    My Department has not commissioned any research on this subject and I am not aware of any such research being undertaken by other bodies. We share with a number of industrialised societies concern at the escalating cost of health care and the need to make more effective use of scarce resources. The increasing proportion of elderly in the population and the availability of new and improved techniques of treatment combine to promote demand for health services. On 19th April 1978 I signed with the chairman of the British Medical Association a joint statement expressing our growing anxiety about rising patient expectation and consumption of National Health Service facilities. This commended the Health Education Council's publicity, intended to dissuade patients from demanding medicines unnecessarily, or excessive quantities of them, and stressed the need to consider the relative cost of alternative forms of treatment.

    Kidney Machines

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many renal dialysis machines were purchased from companies based overseas over the last three years; and what proportion overseas-produced machines represent in relation to the total purchase by the National Health Service over the same period.

    None by my Department. I regret that information about renal dialysis machines that may have been purchased by NHS authorities from overseas-based companies is not available.

    Pay Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the estimated revenue from pay beds in England and Wales in 1977–78 and in 1976–77, respectively.

    The actual revenue from pay beds in England and Wales in 1976–77 was £24,839,603. The estimated income for 1977–78 is about £27·3 million.

    Hospital Operations (Delays And Cancellations)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has investigated the number of operations that have been delayed, postponed, or cancelled because of strikes by nurses at the Greenwich District Hospital, London and by electricians in the Electrical, Electronic, Telecommunications and Plumbing Union at hospitals throughout Great Britain; and if he will publish the results of these investigations.

    For the period 15th June to 30th June, 127 non-urgent surgical admissions to Greenwich District Hospital were postponed as a result of the industrial action by theatre staff.There are numerous reasons for non-urgent operations being postponed or cancelled, some of which will be related to industrial action and many which will not. I do not think it would be desirable or productive to initiate general inquiries of all health authorities in England in relation to the recent action by hospital electricians; nor would the cost be justified.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many operations have been cancelled and what other disruption has occurred as a result of the strike at the West London Hospital, Hammersmith, by members of the National Union of Public Employees, catering staff, boilermen and porters.

    Twenty-six operations were cancelled, and non-urgent gynaecological and rehabilitation admissions were stopped. In addition, cleaning services were disrupted.

    Supplementary Benefit (Accommodation Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in the light of the fact that German and French girls living in the YWCA at Bristol can claim up to £21 a week in supplementary benefit for up to six months, whether there is a limit to the amount which can be claimed by people living in more expensive accommodation and how the weekly sum is arrived at.

    The amount of supplementary benefit to which a claimant is entitled is calculated under the Supplementary Benefits Act 1976 according to his individual circumstances. The Act lays down no maximum amount of benefit but, in deciding the amount to be allowed for rent, the Supplementary Benefits Commission has to consider whether the rent is reasonable.

    Benefits (European Community Countries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in the light of the fact that German and French girls living in the YWCA at Bristol and who have never worked in Great Britain can claim up to £21 a week in supplementary benefit for up to six months, if he will state the equivalent amount payable to British nationals in similar circumstances in each of the EEC member States (a) by the member State concerned and (b) by his Department or otherwise.

    I do not have the information to enable me to say what social assistance would be payable to British nationals in similar circumstances elsewhere in the EEC. I understand that assistance is commonly subject to local rules so that the basis on which it may be paid, and the amount payable, may vary from area to area. British nationals would, however, receive the same treatment as nationals of the country concerned an das each EEC member State is party to the European Convention on Social and Medical Assistance. This prohibits discrimination on nationality grounds where a national of one of the contracting countries is concerned. With regard to the second part of the Question, supplementary benefit is not paid to anyone outside Great Britain.

    Hypnosis

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the hospitals in England where medical hypnosis is available as a medical treatment under the National Health Service.

    I regret the information is not available, but some doctors do use hypnosis as an anaesthetic and it is also used in the treatment of mental illness, but to what extent and in what hospitals is not recorded centrally.

    Acupuncture

    asked the Secretary for State for Social Services if he will list the hospitals in England where acupuncture is available as a medical treatment under the National Health Service.

    I regret that the information is not available.Acupuncturists, as such, are not employed in the National Health Service, but registered medical practitioners employed in National Health Service hospitals are at liberty to use acupuncture as a treatment if they consider this to be in the best interest of a patient, they consider themselves qualified to use it, and the patient agrees. It is not known how many do so, or in which hospitals.

    Homoeopathy

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has received any petitions signed by United Kingdom citizens complaining of the lack of provision of homoeopathic medical treatment in any part of the United Kingdom; and what action he intends to take.

    I have received several letters recently about the availability of homoeopathic treatment in various parts of England. Any doctor who wishes to do so may provide homoeopathic treatment, but the availability of general practitioner services depends on where a doctor with an interest in this branch of medicine practises. I have no power to direct a doctor to prescribe a particular form of treatment, nor would it be appropriate for me to have such a power. The provision of hospital facilities is a matter for the appropriate health authority to determine in the light of local needs and priorities and I have no plans to alter these arrangements.

    Rotherham Area Health Authority

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people are employed by the Rotherham Area Health Authority; how many have medical or nursing qualifications; and how many such posts are currently unfilled.

    At 31st March 1978 3,338 people were employed, of whom 149 had medical qualifications and 826 had, or There are some 35 casual vacancies at were studying for, nursing qualifications, present.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services by what date he expects the allocation of National Health Service resources to the Rotherham Area Health Authority to reach the national average standard of provision.

    The report of the Resource Allocation Working Party, whose recommendations I have broadly accepted for the distribution of resources to health authorities in England, noted that "target" measures of relative need for resources for hospital and community health services took no account of a number of unquantified factors. The speed of progress towards fairer sharing of resources is conditioned by the total amounts available nationally for these services year by year and the time required to plan the effective redeployment of resources without damage to important existing services.

    Retinitis Pigmentosa

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has received any evidence that overseas treatment of retinitis pigmentosa has been helpful even though the method adopted may not accord with current and orthodox medical practice within the National Health Service.

    I have no objective evidence that overseas treatment of retinitis pigmentosa has been helpful but I have arranged to have inquiries made into certain individual cases which have brought to my attention where there is apparent evidence of subjective improvement following such treatment.

    Laurence-Moon-Biedl Syndrome

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the co-ordination of medical and social services in the case of the children at the Hoden family in the Rother Valley constituency who are suffering from the Laurence-Moon-Biedl syndrome; and if he will advise the area health authority to arrange a formal inquiry without delay.

    I am not aware of any failure of co-ordination in this case. Once all known medical information on the children has been assembled the area health authority will decide whether or not to hold a formal inquiry.

    Disabled Persons (Mental Hospitals)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what categories of physically handicapped are currently admitted as patients in mental hospitals.

    People are admitted to mental hospitals for treatment or care because of their mental disorder. A number of patients also have physical handicaps, but physical handicap of itself is not a reason for admission.

    "Thirty Years Of Social Security"

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much leaflet FB3 to be issued in July 1973, entitled "Thirty Years of Social Security", will cost.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many copies of leaflet FB3, entitled "Thirty Years of Social Security", his Department intends to have printed.

    To date, 100,000 copies of leaflet FB3 "Thirty Years of Social Security" have been printed. It will be reprinted if demand continues at the current rate.

    Hospital Waiting Lists

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the present waiting list for surgery in the Camden and Islington area; and how this compares with the national position.

    The numbers of patients awaiting admission to the surgical specialities in hospitals in Camden and Islington and in England, together with the rates per 1,000 population, are as follows. The figures relate to 30th September 1977 being the latest available.

    NumberRate per 1,000 population
    Camden and Islington5,00211·7
    England564,42012·2

    Camden And Islington Health Authority

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the number of persons employed by the National Health Service in the area of Camden and Islington Health Authority at the latest available date, and in the same area two, four and eight years earlier.

    The numbers are 14,446 in March 1978 and 14,617 in June 1976. Comparable figures for the earlier years are not available.

    Miss Jennifer Evans

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what facilities his Department is providing in the rural area of Blyth, Nottinghamshire, to enable Miss Jennifer Evans of 49 Retford Road, Blyth, to get to her place of employment which is seven miles away.

    The responsibility for assisting certain registered disabled people who are unable to use public transport to get to and from work, because of their disabilities, rests with my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Employment under the Manpower Services Commission's fares-to-work scheme. I understand from the employment service division of the Manpower Services Commission that Miss Evans has not yet made an application for assistance under this scheme, which is aimed mainly at helping people who do not received mobility allowance. It may be in her interests to do so now.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why his Department has refused to grant a mobility allowance to Miss Jennifer Evans of 49 Retford Road, Blyth, Nottinghamshire, who had her leg amputated in 1975.

    I wrote to my hon. Friend on 25th April 1978 and 23rd June 1978 explaining that the independent adjudicating authorities who determine mobility allowance claims had decided that Miss Evans does not meet the medical criteria for eligibility of being unable, or virtually unable, to walk because of physical disablement. I am unable to add to the letters I sent my hon. Friend because neither I nor officials of my Department can intervene in, set aside or in any way interfere with, the decisions of the independent adjudicating authorities. If my hon. Friend would like to discuss with me Miss Evans' appeal rights, I shall be glad to be of help.

    Mobility Allowance (One-Legged Persons)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will introduce legislation to ensure that working people who have lost a leg are awarded mobility allowance to help them keep their jobs.

    Mobility allowance is designed for the outdoor mobility needs of severely disabled people aged between 5 and pensionable age who are unable or virtually unable to walk, regardless of where they live and of whether or not they work. To add an employment criterion to the present criteria for entitlement would bring back anomalies that the new scheme was designed to remove. Under the former scheme, which had an employment criterion, hardship was often caused by the withdrawal of mobility help from disabled people who ceased to be employed. This was one reason why we deliberately opted for medical criteria alone when we intro- duced the mobility allowance scheme. By the end of next year, the scheme is expected to be giving mobility help to a total of 100,000 new beneficiaries, at an added cost of £52 million. We have no plans to change the conditions for eligibility.

    One-Parent Families

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of single-parent families with one or more children aged under 5 years receiving supplementary benefit; and what is the average amount received by each family in this category.

    In December 1976, the latest date for which the information is available there were 145,000 such families receiving supplementary benefit. The weekly rate of benefit paid to those with children under 5 is not readily available but the average paid to those with children of all ages was £24·07 a week.

    Health Authorities (Movement Of Patients)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what requirements there are for health authorities to notify other health authorities of patients who have been placed in private establishments in other health authority areas.

    Health authorities have been advised that where an area health authority wishes to make use of a voluntary hospital outside its area for National Health Service patients it should ask the "home" authority to negotiate an appropriate contract, including the capitation fee, the scrutiny of the accounts and any necessary inspection to assess standards. Admissions to the voluntary hospital would then be made in accordance with these contractual arrangements and within any agreed limit on the number of beds to be used by a particular authority. The admitting authority should notify the "home" authority of the admission and should carry financial responsibility for the patient.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients from other health authorities have been moved over the last year to the area of the Essex Health Authority and, in particular, to the Harwich constituency of north-east Essex; and what numbers of these have been moved to private establishments.

    The number of in-patients transferred to NHS hospitals in Essex Area Health Authority from hospitals outside that area is not readily available. In the 14 months period ending 31st May 1978, 998 patients were admitted to independent contractual establishments from outside Essex, 667 of whom were admitted to a home near Clacton.

    Supplementary Benefit (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much has been expended during the last four years on supplementary benefits.

    Supplementary benefit expenditure during the last four years was as follows:

    £ million
    1974–75835
    1975–761,187
    1976–771,526
    1977–781,960
    {provisional)

    Unemployment Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how much has been paid in Wales during the last four years in unemployment benefits.

    Expenditure on unemployment benefit in Wales for each of the four years up to 1976–77, the latest for which information is available, was as follows:

    £ million
    1973–7412·0
    1974–7513·7
    1975–7626·6
    1976–7732·8

    Medicines (Sale)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he has taken since 2nd February 1978 to ensure that proper sampling procedures for the control of the quality and safety of medicines sold in retail outlets, as provided in Section 108 of the Medicines Act 1968, shall be continued in view of the local food and drug authorities responsibility for these procedures on that date; and what he estimates to be the cost of these changes.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 25th May 1978; Vol. 950, c. 712], gave the following information:The main provisions for ensuring quality and safety of medicines now take the form of licensing requirements under Part II of the Medicines Act 1968. The responsibility for enforcement of these requirements is assigned to the Health and Agriculture Ministers by Section 108 and, in discharging this responsibility, samples are taken at manufacturing and wholesale levels by inspectors of my Department for analysis. Section 108 also provides, however, for certain other provisions to be enforced by local authorities or by the Pharmaceutical Society concurrently with the Ministers. Regulations under Section 108(4) and (7) have placed certain responsibilities on food and drugs authorities. Other matters are dealt with in Section 108(2); this provides for Ministers to give directions or make arrangements whereby food and drugs authorities or the Society shall have powers or duties of enforcement in respect of specified sections of the Act. In such circumstances expenses incurred by the authority are recoverable from the Minister concerned (Section 128(4)).Until 31st January 1978, local authorities were under a duty to enforce Sections 1(2) and 2 of the Food and Drugs Act 1955 in relation to drugs and, in the course of executing such functions, authorities operated sampling procedures. This work was carried out at their expense and I have no comprehensive information as to the expenditure involved. These provisions ceased to apply to drugs—medical products—on 1st February this year; however there are corresponding provisions relating to medicinal products in Sections 63 and 64 of the Medicines Act and these are among the provisions specified in Section 108(2). In view of the sampling of medicines that is currently undertaken by my Department under the licensing system and the different financial implications, further consideration is necessary before any decision is reached as to new arrangements.It is envisaged that there will be discussions with the Pharmaceutical Society and the relevant associations of local authorities in due course. At this stage I cannot offer any estimate of the costs involved but, in view of the factors mentioned above, the total cost of sampling medicines at the retail level may be less than hitherto.

    Wales

    Homoeopathy

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he has received any petition signed by citizens in Wales complaining of the lack of provision of homoeopathic medical treatment in any part of Wales; and what action he intends to take.

    A number of people in West Wales petitioned me on this subject earlier this year. Any qualified general practitioner may provide homoeopathic treatment with the patient's consent but not many choose to do so. Whether facilities for homoeopathic treatment are provided in hospitals in Wales is for area health authorities to decide in the light of local needs.

    Hypnosis

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the hospitals in Wales where medical hypnosis is avaiable as a medical treatment under the National Health Service.

    This information is not readily available. It is for the doctor concerned to decide, with the patient's consent, whether hypnosis is an appropriate form of treatment in his case.

    Unemployed Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many persons were unemployed in South Glamorgan and in Barry, respectively, at the latest convenient date; and how many of these were school leavers.

    On 20th June there were 14,541 unemployed, including 661 school leavers under 18, in South Glamorgan. For the Barry employment office area within the Cardiff travel-to-work area the figure was 1,815, including 105 school leavers under 18.

    Acupuncture

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the hospitals in Wales where acupuncture is available as a medical treatment under the National Health Service.

    This information is not readily available. Acupuncturists are not employed in this capacity in the Health Service in Wales. However, recognised medical practitioners employed in Health Service hospitals may use acupuncture if they decide that this form of treatment is in the best interests of the patient, consider themseves quaified, and the patient consents.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded under-secretary and above, and also those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are only allowed to travel first class if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first-class travel.

    Environment

    Government Car Service

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will list the grades and numbers of civil servants who are allowed to use Government cars for their personal and public purposes and the number of such cars that are in the pooled service.

    The rules do not set out the grades or numbers of civil servants who may use a chauffeur-driven Government car. In practice, however, usage is severely constrained by the fact that the pooled service for the whole of the United Kingdom consists of only 149 cars, including cars in Northern Ireland needed for security purposes and those kept to cover repair and maintenance needs.In all cases the journeys must be for official and not personal purposes.

    Feltham Marshalling Yard (Container Depot)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why, in his letter of 23rd June to British Railways giving consent to their application for a container depot at Feltham marshalling yard, he accepted his inspector's assumption that such development would not generate much heavy traffic along Powdermill Lane, Twickenham; what assessment he has made of the probable use of Powder-mill Lane by heavy lorries travelling to and from central and south London and South-East England and the Channel ports via the A316 Great Chertsey Road, Kingston and Hampton Court Bridges; why the consideration of traffic generation in Powdermill Lane was confined to traffic destined for the M3 which he states is more likely to choose different routes; and if he will make a statement on what action he intends to take to protect residents of Powdermill Lane and other nearby roads from the growth in heavy traffic resulting from his decision.

    The decision was reached in this case only after the most careful consideration of all the factors involved, and I cannot now discuss the reasons for that decision, which are set out in the decision letter. Action to protect the residents of Powdermill Lane and other local roads from the effects of traffic approaching the depot is a matter for the highway authorities, and I understand that Richmond on Thames council has this under consideration.

    Cesspool Drainage

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if legislation to resolve the difficulties experienced by persons whose homes depend upon cesspool drainage will be introduced during the next 12 months.

    The Government remain firmly committed to the policy set out in the White Paper, "The Water Industry in England and Wales: the Next Steps", to transfer to regional water authorities responsibility for providing a sewage disposal service for properties without main drainage. For domestic properties only a proportion, probably 50 per cent. of the actual cost of this service would be levied. Legislation to implement the White Paper proposals, including those relating to cesspool emptying, will be introduced as soon as practicable.

    Public Procurement Agency

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends to set up a Public Procurement Agency.

    My right hon. Friend is concerned that public procurement should smooth the load of work on the construction industry and will consider ways to achieve this.

    Building And Construction Industries

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he intends to set up a National Construction Corporation;(2) if he intends to set up a Building Materials Corporation.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 29th June.—[Vol. 952, c. 648.]

    Direct Labour

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends to extend the work of direct labour organisations.

    I intend to introduce legislation which will provide a comprehensive modern statutory framework for direct labour organisations. It will enable their efficiency to be better judged, and will make it possible for the efficient to expand their activities. But whether or not expansion takes place within the new framework will remain the decision of individual authorities.

    Construction Industry (Voluntary Registration Scheme)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends to set up a scheme for decasualisation based on statutory registers of employers and employees, coupled with the provision of fall-back pay for temporarily unemployed workers, to be administered by a statutory Construction Industry Manpower Board.

    I have welcomed the Construction Industry Manpower Board's proposals for a voluntary registration scheme. Much now depends on the degree of support it gets from the industry. But if it fails I shall have to consider alternative action.

    Council Housing (Garages)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he anticipates lifting the embargo introduced in March 1975 on the provision of garages for existing and newly built local authority housing schemes.

    The decision was taken in order to concentrate scarce resources on the provision of homes. I am reviewing this decision.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded under-secretary and above, and also those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are only allowed to travel first class if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first-class travel.

    Wealth Tax (Departmental Premises)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the premises acquired for the purposes of the wealth tax, the capital cost of annual rent of such premises and the use to which such premises have now been put.

    The following premises were acquired for the purposes of administering capital taxes:BUILDING AND CURRENT USE

    Daryl House, Stockton—Part allocated to Department of Health and Social Security.
    Bayheath House, Stockton—Department of Employment; Inland Revenue.
    Northgate House, Derby—Allocated to Inland Revenue.
    Chadwick House, Solihull—Inland Revenue.
    Apsley House, Stockport—Part occupied by Department of Health and Social Security and Inland Revenue.
    Grosvenor Road, Wrexham—Part occupied by Department of Health and Social Security.
    16–22 Picardy Place, Edinburgh—Inland Revenue.
    Crownhill, Plymouth—Allocated to HM Land Registry; Inland Revenue, HM Customs and Excise; Local Vehicle Licensing Office.

    These premises are leased, with the exception of the Crown building at Crownhill, Plymouth which is currently nearing completion at an estimated total cost of £2·1 million. The total annual rent bill of the seven leased buildings is about £900,000.

    Fluoridation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if in forming his policy on fluoridation he took account of the fact that, whereas the naturally occurring sodium or calcium aluminofluorides and sodium or calcium ferrofluorides are highly stable chemical complexes able to withstand any action by stomach secretions, the presence of fluoride ions arising from hydrolysis of the fluorosilicic acid or sodium silicofluoride when added to water may give rise to the formation in the stomach of hydrofluoric acid; and whether this is a toxic or a dangerous chemical.

    I have been asked to reply.Normally sodium, calcium and magnesium fluorides are the naturally occurring fluorides in water and generally they exist in water as the simple fluoride ion. Occasionally, some of the naturally occurring fluoride will be present as complex fluorides, such as aluminofluorides and ferrofluorides. Generally, however, fluoride will be present in water as the fluoride ion whether it is naturally occuring or artifically added.Extensive studies both here and abroad have not shown any harm to health associated with one part per million of fluoride ion in water during periods of over 30 years in North America and over 20 years in the United Kingdom for which fluoridation has been practised or during the longer periods for which similar proportions of fluoride have been present naturally in the water supplies of some communities.

    Transport

    M25

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will set up a study on the likely impact on the economy of central London of the completion of the M25; and if he will make a statement.

    Completion of this road will benefit the country as a whole. I doubt the value of a study such as my hon. Friend suggests: so much can influence the economy of central London and it would be hard to disentangle the effects of one road, however important.

    Motor Car Bodies (Strength)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he proposes to introduce legislation to ensure that motor car bodies fulfil certain minimum requirements in terms of strength as a safety measure.

    National type approval regulations came into effect on 1st October last year and apply to all new cars manufactured since that date and brought in use after 1st August this year. These regulations include requirements for the protection of car occupants in collisions, in particular a limit on the permissible penetration of the steering mechanism into the interior of the car under impact. These requirements govern the strength of the bodywork, which needs to be strong enough to provide some resistance to impact but not 60 strong as to transfer the full force of it to the occupants. Other possible long-term requirements are being considered in the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe.

    Driving Tests (Hull)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport, in view of the fact that appointments for driving tests for the Hull area are now being made for late October, he will take steps to im- prove the situation; and if he will make a statement.

    Due mainly to an increase in demand this year, waiting times for driving tests are a good deal longer than we would wish. We are considering the matter within the framework of the Government's policy of constraint on Civil Service manpower.

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the normal period of waiting for a driving test in the Hull district after an application for a test has been made.

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the present establishment of driving examiners for heavy goods vehicle licences in the Hull area; and what steps he is taking to increase the number.

    I cannot add to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend on 28th April —[Vol. 948, c. 707–8]—except to say that the appointment of a second examiner at Beverley is being considered.

    Concessionary Fares (Schoolchildren)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what account he has taken in formulating his policy regarding concessionary fares of the need to provide half fare concessions for schoolchildren of all ages on British Railways; and if he will make a statement.

    My policy on concessionary fares recognises that it is for the Railways Board to decide the extent of its arrangements for offering travel at reduced rates.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    North Devon Link Road

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport why his Department had spent more than four weeks since 26th May searching for a suitable venue in the Tiverton area in which to hold the public inquiry into the North Devon link road without bothering to ask the Mid-Devon District Council for help in finding it.

    Until the inspector and co-ordinator have been appointed and perhaps a pre-inquiry meeting held, in accordance with the procedures set out in paragraphs 40–43 of the report on the review of highway inquiry procedures (Cmnd. 7133), it is not possible to be certain what size of hall will be required. For this reason, no formal approach has yet been made to the council. However, the Department has been investigating the options open to it by inquiring on an informal basis into the availability of various halls.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Ussr (Trials)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made to the Soviet Government in protest of the manner in which the trials of Ida Nudel, Vladimir Slepak, and approximately 20 members of the Helsinki Human Rights Monitoring Group already arrested have been conducted, and protest at the decision to exile Mr. Slepak and Miss Nudel to a remote part of the USSR.

    As my right hon. Friend has repeatedly made clear both to the Soviet Government and in the House, the Government deplore the sentences passed on members of the Helsinki monitoring groups. We are deeply concerned about the need for respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. But there has to be a careful judgment in each case of the effects of governmental representations both on the cases themselves and on our wider relationships. No specific representations have been made to the Soviet Government since the trials of Ida Nudel and Vladimir Slepak.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if observers from the British Embassy in Moscow tried to gain admittance to the trials of Ida Nudel and Vladimir Slepak.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to my hon. and learned Friend the Member for Leicester, West (Mr. Janner) on 28th June.—[Vol. 952, c. 614–15.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether, in view of his reply to the hon. and learned Member for Leicester, West dated 14th June 1978, in which he stated that, in view of the public interest in the cases of Alexander Ginsberg and Anatoli Sharansky, Vladimir Slepak, Marsha Slepak and Ida Nudel, he made arrangements for representatives of the British Embassy in Moscow to attend the trials of Vladimir Slepak and Ida Nudel, which were held on 21st June; and, if not, why not.

    I would refer my hon. and learned Friend to the reply which I gave him on 28th June.—Vol. 952, c. 614–15.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if it is the policy of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office to try to gain admittance to trials of Soviet dissidents.

    A representative of the British Embassy in Moscow will seek to attend where there is widespread public interest in the trial of a Soviet citizen which appears to relate to the provisions of the CSCE Final Act, and where foreign observers are admitted. My right hon. Friend sees no advantage in trying to gain admittance to the courtroom once it has been made clear in advance that this will not be permitted.

    Uranium Ore (Australia)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs when he notified the European Commission of the terms of the agreement between Her Majesty's Government and the Australian Government for the supply of uranium ore to the United Kingdom.

    A Nuclear Safeguards Agreement between the United Kingdom and Australia has been initialled by officials. This agreement was communicated to the Commission, in accordance with article 103 of the Euratom Treaty, on 21st June.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that the information requested is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. Officers in grades 1 to 3 of the Diplomatic Service are entitled to first-class air travel. Those in grade 4 are so entitled only on journeys of at least four hours' continuous flying time. Other members of the Diplomatic Service are permitted to travel first class by air only in exceptional circumstances.

    Rhodesia (British Missionaries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, in view of his responsibility for the safety of British citizens abroad, he has asked Mr. John Graham, as representative in Rhodesia of Her Majesty's Government, to inquire into the identity of those who murdered the British missionaries near Umtali; and whether Mr. Graham or any other British official has interviewed or sought interviews with those African eye witnesses of this massacre.

    We have sought information about the incident from a number of sources, including Mr. Graham, who was in Salisbury at the time. We hope that the true facts will be established and to that end have offered assistance to the Elim Pentecostal Church to enable it to employ independent expert advisers at the inquest.

    Scotland

    Homoeopathy

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he has received any petitions signed by citizens complaining of the lack of provision of homoeopathic medical treatment in any part of Scotland; and what action he intends to take.

    Hypnosis

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the hospitals in Scotland where medical hypnosis is available as a medical treatment under the National Health Service.

    No records are kept centrally of hospitals in which medical hypnosis is available. There are, however, about 200 members of the British Society of Medical and Dental Hypnosis based in Scotland who may practise hypnosis within the specialties of dentistry, general practice, anaesthetics and psychiatry.

    Acupuncture

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the hospitals in Scotland where acupuncture is available as a medical treatment under the National Health Service.

    I understand that acupuncture is occasionally used by a very few doctors, but no comprehensive information is available centrally.

    Abortion

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list in the Official Report the monthly totals of notifications of abortions carried out in Scotland during 1977 and 1978 for (a) residents and (b) non-residents of Scotland; and if he will indicate the numbers carried out under each of the grounds provided for by law.

    Figures for 1978 are not yet available. Provisional figures for 1977 are as follows:

    ABORTIONS NOTIFIED IN SCOTLAND IN 1977
    (a)Persons Usually Resident in Scotland
    Grounds/circumstances of terminationJanuaryFeb.MarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSept.OctoberNov.Dec.Total
    As in Note 123424213433132
    As in Note 25036076945286166185236566025275585396,971
    As in Note 317151316141511141414149166
    As in Note 4985789578117892
    Immediate necessity (Note 5)11114
    Total5326337165546426445406806285555835587,265
    (b) Persons not Usually Resident in Scotland
    Grounds/circumstances of terminationJanuaryFeb.MarchAprilMayJuneJulyAugustSept.OctoberNov.Dec.Total
    As in Note 24224111318
    Total4224111318

    Grounds for abortion under Section 1(1) of Abortion Act 1967:

    Note 1 Risk to life of woman.

    Note 2 Risk to physical or mental health of woman.

    Note 3 Risk to physical or mental health of existing children.

    Note 4 Risk of abnormality in the child.

    Special provision for termination in emergencies (Section 1(4)):

    Note 5 Immediate need to save life of woman or prevent grave permanent injury to her physical or mental health.

    Gaelic Language (Publicity And Information)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he has taken to encourage Government Departments, nationalised industries and national institutions to provide publicity and information in Gaelic.

    My Departments give due recognition to the Gaelic language and culture but the number of people who speak only Gaelic—477, according to the 1971 Census—is too small to justify the cost of producing in Gaelic the very many Government publications.Nationalised industries and national institutions are free to make their own decisions on such matters.

    National Health Service (Finance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the amount of National Health Service funds allocated to Scotland in each year since 1948.

    The net amount voted by Parliament for the National Health Service in Scotland was:

    £ million
    1948–4922·9
    1949–5040·6
    1950–5141·4
    1951–5244·0
    1952–5349·0
    1953–5447·1
    1954–5550–2
    1955–5653·7
    1956–5758·2
    1957–5860·0
    1958–5960·6
    1959–6061·6
    1960–6169·5
    1961–6268·6
    1962–6381·0
    1963–6488·8
    1964–6596·9
    1965–66113·1
    1966–67126·9
    1967–68141·9
    1968–69150·4
    1969–70168·2
    1970–71194·9
    1971–72220·3
    1972–73259·4
    1973–74294·1
    1974–75424·2
    1975–76553·2
    1976–77625·8

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage of the United Kingdom Health Service budget has been spent in Scotland in each year since 1948.

    Comparative figures of health expenditure for the United Kingdom for the period are not available.The proportion of expenditure voted by Parliament for the National Health Service in Scotland compare to that so voted for Great Britain was:

    YearPer cent.
    1948–4911·1
    1949–5011·6
    1950–5110·7
    1951–5211·1
    1952–5311·0
    1953–5411·2
    1954–5511·4
    1955–5611·2
    1956–5711·0
    1957–5811·0
    1958–5911·0
    1959–6011·0
    1960–6111·0
    1961–6211·1
    1962–6311·4
    1963–6411·4
    1964–6511·2
    1965–6611·3
    1966–6711·4
    1967–6811·4
    1968–6911·6
    1969–7011·7
    1970–7111·6
    1971–7211·7
    1972–7311·8
    1973–7411·7
    1974–7511·7
    1975–7611·4
    1976–7711·3

    Housing (Glasgow)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what discussions he has had recently with Glasgow District Council about the city's future housing needs; what estimates the Scottish Development Department have of (a) the number of flats in the city capable of being rehabilitated and (b) the number of local authority flats presently unoccupied; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend and I met district council representatives on 3rd February to discuss the council's first housing plan, and my right hon. Friend's response to the plan was conveyed in a letter to the district council dated 19th May 1978. The plan records that the district council has identified 25,100 houses, mainly in tenements, which are below the tolerable standard and are suitable for rehabilitation. Information is not available to me about the number of local authority flats at present unoccupied in Glasgow, but the district council keeps vacancies under continuous review. My right hon. Friend looks to the district council to assess its housing needs more fully in its second housing plan, which is due to be submitted to him this autumn, and to derive from that assessment a programme of rehabilitation set in the context of other proposed expenditure.

    Scottish Development Agency (Factories)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will state the total book value at which the 10 factories listed in note 10 to the Accounts of the Scottish Development Agency for 1976–77 (HC 333), published on 5th April, were vested in the Agency in December 1975.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. The only civil servants normally entitled to travel first class by air are those graded under-Secretary and above, and also those at assistant secretary level when making flights of at least four hours flying time without a break. Other civil servants are allowed to travel first class only if, for example, they have to accompany a more senior officer who is himself entitled to first-class travel. There has been no first-class travel on internal airlines in the past three years.

    Primary Schools (Composite Classes)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many composite classes there are in Scottish primary schools; and what studies have been made about the effect of such classes on the educational progress of primary pupils.

    As regards the number of composite classes, I refer the hon. Mem- ber to the reply which was given to the hon. Member for Inverness (Mr. Johnston) on 17th May [Vol. 950, c. 182]. There is no reason to think that such classes are inherently unsound educationally, so long as they are formed with due regard for the needs of the pupils concerned, and so long as the work of each class is adapted to the abilities of individual pupils through, for example, the use of group and individual methods.

    Unemployed Persons (Clydebank)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the unemployment figures both in numbers and as a percentage in the travel-to-work area covering Clydebank in the last available month and the equivalent month in 1971.

    At 8th June 1978 total unemployment in the Glasgow travel-to-work area, whch includes Clydebank, was 56,515–9·5 per cent. Unemployment in the same geographical area in June 1971 was 38,288–6·4 per cent.

    Northern Ireland

    Wages Councils

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many wages councils are in operation in Northern Ireland; if he will list the members of these councils; and if he will list the industries in Northern Ireland not covered by the present operation of the Wages Council.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 28th June 1978; Vol. 952, c. 613], gave the following information:There are at present 12 wages councils in Northern Ireland for the following industries:

    • Baking
    • Boot and Shoe Repairing
    • Catering
    • Dressmaking and Women's Light Clothing
    • Laundry
    • Linen and Cotton Handerkchief and Household Goods and Linen Piece Goods
    • Paper Box
    • Readymade and Wholesale Bespoke Tailoring
    • Retail Bespoke Tailoring
    • Road Haulage
    • Shirtmaking
    • Sugar Confectionery and Food Preserving

    The Aerated Waters Wages Council and the Brush and Broom Wages Councils were abolished on 5th May 1978.

    The membership of each wages council consists of such numbers of people, representatives, employers and employees as the Department thinks fit together with not more than three independent members in accordance with Schedule 1 to the Wages Council (Northern Ireland) Act 1947. The present members of the 12 wages councils are as follows:

    1. BANKING

    Independent Members

    • Mr. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB.
    • Major G. R. Cowie, MA, LLB, JP.
    • Dr. J. Stuart Hawnt, CBE.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. R. Leitch, B. Magee, P. McErlean, G. Doyle and J. E. Sherrard.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. J. Coyle, J. Cooper, J. Marlow, G H. Moore. T. McDaid, A. Ogle, H. Trimble, J. Gormley, F. Mallon, W. Gallagher, G. McQuillen and D. Wylie, MBE, JP.

    2. Boar AND SHOE REPAIRING

    Independent Members

    • Mr. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. D. R. Lindsay, F. C. Rogan and A. N. Ralston.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. S. Bell, M. Murray and R. McDonald.

    3. CATERING

    Independent Members

    • Mr. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB.
    • Dr. J. Stuart Hawnt.
    • Mr. J. T. Rea, CMG, MA.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. R. H. Brown, MHTCMA, H. D. Carson, MHCI, B. Kirk, FHCI, T. McGrattan, MHCI, J. H. A. Swinson, MHCI, J. C. Bailie, MINSTT, H. Sheehan, B. Lambe, J. Fawcett, N. J. McLaughlin, Mesdames E. M. Fawcett and M. I. Norman.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. L. Bryan, R. A. Dempster, J. McGrory, J. O'Donnell, T. D. Douglas, J. Gregg, H. Minnis, D Wylie, W. J. Hamilton, J. McAleavey and Mrs. E. Clarke.

    4. DRESSMAKING AND WOMEN'S LIGHT CLOTHING

    Independent Members

    • Mr. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB.
    • Mr. G. R. Cowie, MA. LLB, JP.
    • Mr. J. A. L. McLean, QC, LLB.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. C. C. Jones, B. Johnston, A. H. Lee, C. Molyneaux, C. D. Magee, W. Currey and E. F. Milligan.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messers. W. Wallace, F. McCrossan, J. Nixon, L. Robinson, W. J. Mann, Miss F. Maguire and Miss M. Lindsay.

    5. LAUNDRY

    Independent Members

    • Messrs. R. McD. Coulter, T. J. Rea, CMG, MA, and N. G. White, FCA.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. T. Bloomer, J. M. Kerr, A. N. Lovesy, FCA, W. McKinney, CBE, C. M. Ross, W. L. S. Wilson, Mesdames Bryson and E. Hunter.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. H. J. Curlis, MBE, A. McElreavey, J. Gregg, H. Hamilton, W. McClean, R. N. West, A. White and T. P. Hunt.

    6. LINEN AND COTTON HANDKERCHIEF AND HOUSEHOLD GOODS AND LINEN PIECE GOODS

    Independent Members

    • Mr. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB, Mr. G. R. Cowie, MA, LLB, JP, Dr. J. Stuart Hawnt, CBE.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. J. M. Blane, W. Hanna, J. Johnston. R. N. McFarlane, G. Tate, A. McKenzie, C. F. Semple, E. O. Seccombe and K. T. Sturgess, FCA.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. W. J. Hamilton, D. Wylie, Larmour, W. J. Mann, J. O'Donnell, McBride, Mesdames E. Agnew and Beattie.

    7. PAPER BOX

    Independent Members

    • Messrs. R. McD. Coulter, T. J. Rea, CMG, MA and N. G. White, FCA.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. J. E. Acheson, R. S. Duncan, V. Bell, R. D. MacDowell, A. McCabe and R. Rodgers

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. J. O'Donnel, W. Brown, W. H. Turner, B. Quinn, D. McLean and Mrs. B. Lyons.

    8. READYMADE AND WHOLESALE BESPOKE TAILORING

    Independent Members

    • Messrs. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB, J. T. Rea, CMG, MA, and Major G. R. Cowie, MA, LLB, JP.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. J. R. Fetherston, J. V. Hill, N. P. Sloan, R. L. Jackson, G. F. Martin and G. Gilpin.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. W. Wallace, F. McCrossan, J. Nixon, W. J. Mann, Mrs. H. Hunter and Miss F. Maguire.

    9. RETAIL BESPOKE TAILORING

    Independent Members

    • Mr. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. H. C. Cowan, J. Kay, T. G. Parsons, S. E. Hassan and G. E. C. McLeer.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. J. Nixon, W. Wallace and Miss F. Maguire.

    10. ROAD HAULAGE

    Independent Members

    • Mr. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB, Major G. R. Cowie, MA, LLB. JP and Dr. J. Stuart Hawnt, CBE.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. N. White, J. M. Lynn, A. O'Doherty, J. E. Dowling, J. A. McCarroll, W. I. Robinson, G. A. Wright, D. A. W. Bell and S. Martin.

    Employees' Representative

    • Messrs. E. Carlin, J. Cooper, J. G. Graig, T. Ferron. A. Hewitt, G. Johnston, H. McAvoy, J. McGrory, C. Taggart, H. J. Curlis, MBE and D. Wylie, MBE, JP.

    11. SHIRTMAKING

    Independent Members

    • Messrs. J. L. McQuitty, QC, MA, LLB, J. A. L. McLean, QC, LLB and J T. Rea, CMG, MA.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. W. Long, BA, A. Wilkinson, G. Hunter, A. C. Austin, A. W. Fielding, J. McKee, R. N. Eagleson and C. R. Williams.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. J. Nixon, F. McCrossan, W. Wallace, J. Coyle, J. Galbraith, J. A. Nash, G. Hunter, Miss F. Maguire and Miss B. McMillan.

    12. SUGAR CONFECTIONERY AND FOOD PRESERVING

    Independent Members

    • Major G. R. Cowie, MA, LLB, JP.

    Employers' Representatives

    • Messrs. R. J. Edgar, K. McCluskey, R. F. Sadlier and S. H. Watters.

    Employees' Representatives

    • Messrs. W. J. Hamilton, T. H. Minnis, O. Coogan, R. Larmour and J. O'Donnell.

    The scope of each council is broadly indicated by its title, although in all cases, except the Catering Wages Council workers in the retail side of these industries are not covered by the activities of wages councils.

    Civil Servants (Air Travel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many civil servants in his Department have travelled first class by air on official business in each of the past three years; what was the cost of their tickets; and how much would have been saved if they had travelled economy class.