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Written Answers

Volume 953: debated on Thursday 6 July 1978

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 6th July 1978

Home Department

London Transport Services (Vandalism And Violence)

2.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he proposes to take following his meeting with the chairman and representatives of London Transport on 23rd May on the subject of vandalism and violence on London buses and trains.

I have already discussed with the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis a number of the points raised concerned with liaison and assistance between London Transport and the Metropolitan Police.As to a specific change in the law of offences against the person, this is being considered by the Criminal Law Revision Committee.

Mr And Mrs Kassamali (Deportation Order)

4.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has reconsidered the case of Mr. and Mrs. Kassamali and daughters and revoked deportation orders against them.

I have reconsidered all aspects of this case. The position of one daughter, Qamar, is being reviewed following her marriage, but I can find no grounds to revoke the deportation orders against Mr. and Mrs. Kassamali and their daughter Gulrose.

General Elections (Voting Rights)

7.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will prepare legislation to seek to restrict the right to vote in General Elections to citizens of the United Kingdom.

Bail Act

13.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received on the documentation involved in the implementation of the Bail Act.

24.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied that the Bail Act has improved the quality of bail decisions.

25.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received concerning the operation of the Bail Act; and whether he will make a statement.

The Bail Act came into force on 17th April and the relevant rules of court were debated in the Standing Committee on Statutory Instruments, &c. on 19th April. Since then we have received three representations about the general working of the Act and the Magistrates' Association has asked to discuss it with our officials. It is too early to assess the effect of the Act.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the working of the Bail Act.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave today to a Question by the hon. Member for the City of London and Westminster, South (Mr. Brooke).

Immigration Act 1971

16.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the workings of the Immigration Act 1971; and if he will make a statement.

The Government believe that a new nationality law, on which they have published a Green Paper, would provide a more rational basis for immigration control. Meanwhile, the working of the present immigration law is kept under continuing review and changes in the immigration rules and in operational procedure are introduced as necessary.

Immigration Control

18.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he considers that the present system of immigration control is working satisfactorily.

In general the system works well. Measures to maintain and improve its effectiveness are continually being studied and are introduced as necessary.

Crimes Of Violence (West Midlands)

26.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the latest figures available on the incidence of violent crime in the West Midlands; and if he will make a statement.

The number of indictable offences of violence against the person recorded by the West Midlands Police in the first quarter of 1978 was 1,217, an increase of 11 per cent. over the number recorded in the first quarter of 1977.

Metropolitan Police

19.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis, Sir David McNee, is at present carrying out an investigation into the organisation of the Metropolitan Police force based on the eight by eight super-structure which was abandoned three months ago.

No, Sir. Following the decision not to proceed with a re-organisation of his force into eight large area commands, the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis is undertaking certain further studies of his force organisation including local policing arrangements. These studies are continuing.

27.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he is next to meet the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis.

45.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he will next meet the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what basis the approved establishment for the Metropolitan Police is calculated; and what changes have been made in that establishment since the force was constituted.

The force was inaugurated in 1829 and its first full establishment was 2,970. At the last major review in 1965, the criteria were the nature, extent and population of the Metropolitan Police district, the incidence of crime, traffic density and the special problems that arise from London's position as the capital, and the establishment was fixed at 25,611. As a result of detailed adjustments since then, the establishment now stands at 26,589.

Hotels And Holiday Camps (Fire Precautions)

28.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what percentage of hotels have been given fire certificates; and what is being done in relation to these for holiday camps.

By 31st December 1977, 58 per cent. of the hotels and boarding houses in England and Wales which had applied for fire certificates under the Fire Precautions Act 1971 had been issued with them. Holiday camps are a class of use not yet designated under the Act.

Police Forces (Co-Ordination)

29.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions he has had to ensure the most efficient co-ordination between police forces.

Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary and officers of my Department discuss matters bearing on co-ordination in the course of their frequent meetings with chief officers of police in England and Wales individually and through the Association of Chief Police Officers.

Attachment Of Earnings

30.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the efficiency of the courts in administering the system of attachments of earnings.

My hon. Friend the Minister of State wrote last December to the hon. Member about an unfortunate error in a particular case, but I am not aware of any general grounds for dissatisfaction with the arrangements.

Prison Officers (Accommodation)

31.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made with regard to the policy of giving prison officers greater flexibility over residential accommodation outside the immediate environs of prison establishments.

It is our aim, in consultation with the Prison Officers' Association, to reduce the numbers of official quarters so as to enable more officers to live in their own homes. But there will remain a continuing need for houses in the immediate vicinity of prisons.

Television Fourth Channel (Wales)

32.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has yet received the report of the working party investigating the mechanism of setting up the fourth television channel in Wales; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave yesterday to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Swansea, East (Mr. Anderson).

Police Personnel (Heights)

34.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what figures are available for the average heights of police men and women, respectively, in each police force; if he will give a breakdown in the Official Report; and if he will make a statement.

The averages have not been calculated, and could be produced only at disproportionate cost.

Broadcasting

33.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects the White Paper on the future of broadcasting to be published.

38.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he now proposes to publish the Government's conclusion on the Annan report.

48.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is holding up publication of the White Paper on broadcasting; and if he will now announce his timetable in the matter.

I have nothing to add at this stage to the answer I gave on 8th June in reply to Questions by my hon. Friends the Members for Bassetlaw (Mr. Ashton), Aberdare (Mr. Evans), and Derby, North (Mr. Whitehead) and the hon. Member for Brentwood and Ongar (Mr. McCrindle).—[Vol. 951, c. 344–5.]

Fire Service (Recruitment)

35.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the recruitment of personnel into the fire service has now reached the establishment levels to enable the fire authorities to introduce the shorter working week.

Under the Fire Services Act 1947, the recruitment of firemen is a matter for individual fire authorities. I understand that since 2nd June, when the employers tabled detailed proposals in the NJC for negotiations on the introduction of the shorter working week, they have recommended fire authorities to begin recruitment to the levels implicit in their offer, on the basis that the implementation of the 42-hour week remained subject to satisfactory negotiation. I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave today to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for St. Helens (Mr. Spriggs) about the failure to reach agreement on the proposals.

Detention Centres

36.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied that there are sufficient places available in junior and senior detention centres to meet the demands of the courts.

The existing network of senior detention centres is adequate at present but the number of juveniles being sentenced to detention centres has been rising unexpectedly fast and we are considering what action should be taken in the light of this.

Vandalism

37.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further steps he proposes to take to combat vandalism.

We shall continue to encourage effective counter-measures to deal with vandalism. Although specific measures need to be planned locally in response to particular problems, and there is no single, or simple solution, the Home Office will continue to provide support for example through research, information, publicity, and the training of police officers in crime prevention.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the estimated cost of vandalism in each of the last five years.

It is not possible to make a reliable estimate of the substantial costs involved, although it is generally accepted that they could now exceed £100 million a year.

Police (Pay And Conditions)

39.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to be able to make a statement on the pay and conditions of the police.

The Edmund-Davies Committee's report on police pay was submitted on 30th June. It is now being printed, and I expect to make a statement as soon as arrangements can be made for the report to be presented to Parliament and published.

Immigration Appeals

40.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the policy of his Department regarding appeals by his Department against the findings of adjudications in immigration cases.

My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State set out the policy in the reply she gave to a Question by my hon. Friend on 2nd March.—[Vol. 945, c. 647–8.]

Women Offenders (Prison Sentences)

41.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will recommend the setting up of a Royal Commission to examine the deterrent, reformative and other justifications and consequences for imposing prison sentences on women offenders, especially pregnant women and mothers with babies and young children.

No. I am satisfied that the courts take all relevant factors into consideration when passing sentences of imprisonment.

Capital Punishment

42.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many representations he has received in the current year to date on capital punishment.

Since 1st January I have received 12 representations from hon. Members and 82 letters from members of the public specifically about capital punishment. The subject may also have been mentioned in more general letters, along with other issues.

Pentonville Prison

44.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions have taken place between his department, the Prison Officers' Association and the Prison Visiting Committee regarding visiting facilities at Pentonville Prison.

Discussions have taken place with he local branch of the Prison Officers' Association and with representatives of the Inner London Probation Service and of interested voluntary bodies about the visitors' centre. I very much regret that agreement has not proved possible.

Immigrants (Detention)

43.

asked the Secretary of State or the Home Department how many people are currently being held in prison without having been charged on suspicion of being illegal immigrants.

On 31st May 1978 80 people who were not also the subject of court proceedings were detained on the authority of an immigration officer, on his being satisfied that they had entered illegally. The Immigration Act 1971 gives authority for the detention of such people pending the giving of directions for their removal.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a further statement about the longest periods spent in prison by people detained under Immigration Act powers at the present time.

Since I gave my previous answer to my hon. Friend's Question on 26th June—[Vol. 1110, c. 385]—an error has been found in the classification of a person originally held on remand for a criminal offence. It now appears that on 31st May there were three persons detained in Prison Department establishments under the Immigration Act 1971 for 11 months or more. The third had been detained under the Immigration Act for 363 days, nine days longer than the case cited in my original reply.

Refugee Applications

46.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the procedures for deciding applications for refugee status.

The United Kingdom's record in granting asylum, and in recognising as refugees under it people who fall within the scope of the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees and its 1967 protocol, is a good one, but my right hon. Friend is at present considering suggestions put to him by the representative in the United Kingdom of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees as being likely to improve the manner and speed of recognising people as convention refugees.

Blood Sports

47.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many letters he has received in the last year both in favour of and against the abolition of blood sports.

Between 1st July 1977 and 29th June 1978 the Home Office received 191 letters in favour of the abolition of blood sports and 4,363 against.

General Elections (Ballot Secrecy)

49.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will list the causes for which the absolute secrecy of the ballot at a general election may lawfully be breached.

Rule 57 of the parliamentary election rules in schedule 2 to the Representation of the People Act 1949 provides that ballot papers may be inspected after an election only by order of this House or by order of a court in connection with legal proceedings for an offence in relation to ballot papers or for the purpose of an election petition. In carrying out such an order, care must be taken to ensure that the secrecy of the ballot is not breached until a competent court has decided that a particular elector's vote was invalid.

Indecent Displays

50.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he proposes to take to control indecent displays.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave on 8th June to a Question by the hon. Member for Arundel (Mr. Marshall)—[Vol. 951 c. 199.]

Police Recruitment

51.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further measures he is contemplating to increase recruitment into the police forces; and if he will make a statement.

Recruitment to individual police forces in England and Wales is a matter for chief officers, who arrange local recruitment campaigns and other recruitment activities. Their efforts are supported by the national publicity campaign arrangements made by the Home Office. Provision has been made to increase the level of expenditure on the campaign by £201,000 to £793,000 for the current financial year.

Police (Injuries)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many policemen required hospital treatment as a result of injuries sustained in the course of controlling marches and demonstrations in the GLC area in each of the years between 1969 and 1978.

The information is not held separately from records of police officers injured in the course of other types of duty and could not be extracted without disproportionate cost.

European Community Nationals (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many EEC nationals have come to work in the United Kingdom for each year since the United Kingdom's entry into the EEC.

Information on the number of workers' residence permits issued to EEC nationals, other than citizens of the Republic of Ireland, is given in table 12 of "Control of Immigration: Statistics 1977", Cmnd. 7160.

Wrongful Imprisonment

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many claims he has received in each of the past 10 years for ex-gratia payments in respect of wrongful imprisonment; how many were admitted; and what were the payments in each of the cases.

The numbers of applications for compensation are not recorded, so the first part of the Question could not be answered without disproportionate cost. The numbers and amounts of the payments authorised in cases in which a conviction has been quashed or a free pardon has been granted were as follows:

YearNumber of paymentsAmounts
19683£250; £23; £100
19691£5,000
19702£850; £1,500
19713£750; £1,250; £2,250
1972
1973
19741£17,500
19752£1,500; £2,000
19765£5,000; £10,000*
197713£300; £1,100; £1,500; £2,550*
* In three cases in 1976 and nine in 1977 the final amount of the payment has not yet been settled. Interim payments have been made in the 1976 cases and one of the 1977 cases.

Model Aircraft (Flights In Parks)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the reasons for the continuing delay in his Department's confirmation of the by-laws submitted by the London borough of Bromley in respect of model aircraft flying in parks; and when he now expects the matter to be finalised.

On 2nd May Bromley borough council sent the Home Office a fresh draft of byelaws for its parks and Government's proposals for the future open spaces, which include a revised provision for the control of model aircraft. This and other changes from the byelaws submitted last year give rise to a number of points which have had to be taken up with the council in correspondence. I hope that they can be resolved fairly soon.

Cardiff (Commercial Radio Station)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to announce the establishment of a commercial radio station for Cardiff; and if he will make a statement.

The development of local radio services must await the Government's proposals for the future constitution, structure and organisation of broadcasting, which I hope to publish in the form of a White Paper during the present Session.

Parliamentary Candidates (Lower Age Limit)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he intends to introduce legislation to lower to 18 years the age at which people can stand for election to Parliament.

I am aware of the majority recommendation of Mr. Speaker's Conference in 1973 that the minimum age of candidature for parliamentary elections should be lowered from 21 to 18 years, but I have at present no plans for legislation to implement this recommendation.

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements on 6th July.

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for 6th July.

09.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

Q10.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

Q19.

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for 6th July.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for 6th July.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q36.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

Q42.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q43.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

Q45.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q50.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 6th July.

Q53.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his official engagements for 6th July.

I have ben asked to reply.I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Aberdeenshire, East (Mr. Henderson).

Disarmament (United Nations Special Session)

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the outcome of the United Nations' special disarmament session.

I have been asked to reply.Yes. The world has agreed for the first time on a single document about disarmament. The Government welcome this, although we should have liked to see more in the final document about measures to curb nuclear proliferation and the world-wide build-up of conventional arms. The Government also welcome the agreement, on lines suggested by the United Kingdom, for reforming the Conference of the Committee on Disarmament in Geneva. A White Paper on the special session will be published shortly.

Washington

Q12.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Tuc And Cbi

Q13.

Q23.

Q47.

I have been asked to reply.I refer my hon. Friends to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, East (Mr. Thomas) on 15th June.

Q22.

Q41.

I have been asked to reply.I refer my hon. Friends to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Thornaby (Mr. Wrigglesworth) on 13th June.

Q27.

Q29.

I have been asked to reply.I refer my hon. Friends to the reply which I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Swindon (Mr. Stoddart).

Ussr

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if he will seek to make an official visit to the Soviet Union.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Housing

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister whether he intends to initiate a national great debate on the housing programme, following his previous initiative on education.

I have been asked to reply.The Green Paper "Housing Policy: A Consultative Document" (Cnmd. 6851) published in June 1977 and subsequent consultation papers have already provided ample opportunity for such debate.

South Korea

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister what plans he has for visiting South Korea.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Social Services

Drug Prescribing

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether Clause (5) of his joint statement with the chairman of the British Medical Association on drug prescribing implies an obligation on the part of doctors to prescribe the most economic appropriate medicament that meets the standard of the British Pharmacoepeia/Codex rather than particular branded drugs.

There can be no question of any part of the joint statement—a copy of which is in the Library—imposing any legal obligation on a doctor, but, as the statement indicates, both the British Medical Association and my right hon. Friend are concerned at the steady growth in demand for and undue reliance upon medicines, and I trust that clause 5 will encourage all doctors to take account of the relative cost of drugs when equally effective alternatives are available.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the value of drugs prescribed under the National Health Service by chemists in the Leek parliamentary constituency in 1970, 1974 and 1977 at constant prices.

Information relating to the value of drugs either prescribed by doctors or dispensed by chemists in the Leek parliamentary constituency is not readily available, nor is it practicable to make constant price calculations in respect of the supply of drugs in a local area. However, the value of drugs, preparations and appliances dispensed by chemist (including appliance) contractors under the National Health Service in the former Staffordshire executive council area and from April 1974, in the larger Staffordshire family practitioner committee area—in both of which the Leek constituency is included—was as follows:

Area and Calendar yearValue (£)
Staffordshire executive council area:
19701,534,520
To 31st March 1974714,534
Staffordshire family practitioner committee area:
From 1st April 19742,963,146
19778,713,177

Children And Young Persons Act

54.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals he has to amend the Children and Young Persons Act.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Hazel Grove (Mr. Arnold) on 9th May.—[Vol. 949, c. 431.]

Abortion Deaths

55.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of the 16 deaths in approximately 470,000 abortions performed in the period 1973 to 1975 and from 1973 to any later available date were in National Health Service abortions.

The numbers of deaths reported with abortion notifications in England and Wales in recent years were as follows:

Deaths following abortion
in NHSnot in NHS
197342
197452
197521
19761
1977 (provisional)6

Mentally Disordered Offenders (Secure Units)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what grounds he has allowed regional health authorities to spend money provided by the Government to establish permanent secure units for mentally disordered offenders as general revenue and to compensate for overspending without, in some cases, any of the money being spent on secure facilities.

Capital funds are made available as required to meet the approved cost of establishing regional secure units. Revenue funds have been allocated to regional health authorities to help run the secure units when they are built, and, meanwhile, for interim secure facilities where these have been set up. In this way the health authorities are able to bring such facilities into operation as soon as they are ready. We recognise that some regions will be more advanced than others in their arrangements and, where secure arrangements have not yet been provided in this form, health authorities have been asked to make good use of these funds for other purposes, as far as possible on services for the mentally ill. I am asking regional health authorities for a report on how these special revenue allocations were spent in 1977–78.

Hospital Waiting Lists (Orthopaedic Appointments)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the average waiting times for appointments with orthopaedic consultants for adults and children, respectively, in (a) the Macclesfield Health District, (b) the Cheshire Area Health Authority and (c) the Merseyside Region.

Averages are misleading, as patients requiring urgent treatment are seen without delay and waiting times for others vary according to individual circumstances. On 31st March 1978 the waiting times for non-urgent out-patient consultations were in the following ranges:

Macclesfield health district1–12 weeks
Cheshire area health authority1–35 weeks
Mersey regional health authority1–35 weeks

Self-Employed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what percentage of total disbursements financed by national insurance contributions have been in respect of benefits or parts of benefits to which self-employed contributors are not entitled, for each of the last five years for which figures are available.

Of the total benefit expenditure from the national insurance fund and former industrial injury fund in each of the last five years for which figures are available, the percentage relating to benefits or parts of benefits to which self-employed contributors are not entitled was:

1972–7312·6
1973–7410·6
1974–7510·0
1975–7612·1
1976–7712·5

Scientology

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what date he received the report of Sir John Foster on Scientology; when it was published; and when he expects to make public his conclusions thereon.

The report on the inquiry into the practice and effects of Scientology by Sir John Foster was received by a previous Administration on 8th April 1971 and published on 22nd December 1971. I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon. Member for Dorset, South (Mr. King) on 18th May—[Vol. 950, c. 283–4]—regarding conclusions concerning the report.

Hospital Beds (Leek)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many hospital beds there were in the Leek parliamentary constituency in each of the past three years.

The numbers of available staffed beds were as follows:

19751,338
19761,302
19771,285

Attendance Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people are currently in receipt of attendance allowance; and what the comparable figure was in each of the past three years.

The latest date for which final figures are available is 31st December 1977. The information for 1977 and the three preceding years is as follows:

YearHigher rateLower rateTotal
1974118,00069,000187,000
1975129,00094,000222,000
1976139,000121,000260,000
1977153,000147,000300,000

Note: The totals do not always precisely equal the sum of the parts because of rounding.

Pensions

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the percentage increase in retirement pensions between October 1973 and November 1978; and how this compares with the percentage increase in prices and earnings over the same period.

Retirement pensions will have increased by 152 per cent. between October 1973 and November 1978. Over the same period the increase in prices, based on the movement of the general index of retail prices, is expected to be 107 per cent. The increase in earnings, based on the increase in the average gross weekly earnings of male manual workers, was 81 per cent. between October 1973 and November 1977, when pensions were last uprated. It is not the practice of the Government to publish forecasts of earnings.

Heart Operations

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many patients are in the waiting list for heart investigation and surgery in the Liverpool area health authority;(2) if he will investigate the complaint that patients are waiting for more than 12 months for catheter heart investigation in the Liverpool area health authority;(3) if he remains satisfied with the facilities for open heart surgery within the Liverpool area health authority;(4) if he will consider making funds available to the Liverpool area health authority to provide a cardiac surgery unit.

Unemployment Benefit (Married Women)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many married women were drawing unemployment benefit in the Ipswich and district employment area in each of the last five years.

I will publish the information in the Official Report as soon as it can be assembled

Suffolk (Capital Revenue)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the per capita sums made available by his Department for capital revenue purposes in the county of Suffolk for each of the years 1976–77, 1977–78, and anticipated for 1978–79; and the extent to which this exceeds or is less than, in comparable cash figures, the national average per capita.

This information is not readily available, but I hope to give my hon. Friend a reply as soon as possible.

Regional Health Authorities (Chairmen)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will announce the names of those he has appointed as chairmen of regional health authorities from 1st August 1978.

The present chairmen of the Northern, East Anglian and Oxford regions informed me that they did not wish to be considered for reappointment when their term of office expires on 31st July 1978. I would like to place on record my indebtedness to Sir William Lee, the Hon. Leo Russell and Mr. David Woodrow for the dedication and leadership which each has given to the NHS in his region since 1973. As successors I have appointed Mr. George Chetwynd, Sir Arthur South and Mr. Gordon Roberts respectively, all of whom have records of distinguished service to the NHS and are currently chairmen of area authorities.There are clear advantages in continuity whilst the report of the Royal Commission on the NHS is awaited and considered. I therefore very much welcome the willingness of the remaining chairmen to continue in office and have accordingly reappointed them for a further term.The chairmen of regional health authorities from 1st August 1978 will therefore be:

  • Northern—G. R. Chetwynd, Esq., C.B.E., B.A.
  • Yorkshire—Sir William Tweddle, C.B.E., T.D., LL.M.
  • Trent—Sir Sydney King, O.B.E., J.P.
  • East Anglia—Sir Arthur South, J.P.
  • North-West Thames—Mrs. B. F. R. Paterson, C.B.E., J.P.
  • North-East Thames—Sir Harry Moore, C.B.E.
  • South-East Thames—Sir John C. Donne
  • South-West Thames—The Rt. Hon. Baroness Robson of Kiddington
  • Wessex—Kingsley Williams, Esq., M.A., LL.B.
  • Oxford—G. J. Roberts, Esq., C.B.E., J.P.
  • South-Western—B. H. Bailey, Esq., O.B.E., J.P.
  • West Midlands—Sir David Perris, M.B.E., J.P.
  • Mersey—E. W. Driver, Esq., B.Sc., F.I.C.E.
  • North-Western—S. C. Hamburger, Esq., O.B.E., J.P.

Employment

Civil And Public Services Association (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the cause of the dispute between the Civil and Public Services Association and his Department regarding the fortnightly payment of unemployment benefits; why it has come to the point of a strike at four employment offices, including Walton, Liverpool; and what steps he is taking to ensure that such a strike does not take place which would seriously affect unemployed people in the areas concerned, especially as sympathetic action is likely to be considered by workers employed in the Department of Health and Social Security offices.

I told the House on 15th May that the Government were in favour of a fortnightly system of attendance and payment of unemployment benefit but had decided that the pilot procedures needed refinement, particularly to minimise overpayment and opportunities for fraud and abuse—to which the CPSA themselves have attached importance—and that regulations would be brought before the House to allow the pilot scheme to continue for a further period. These draft regulations are currently being considered by the National Insurance Advisory Committee, to whom the CPSA has made its views known, and we hope to bring the regulations to the House before the recess.However, although the report earlier this year on the pilot experiment by a joint working party of management and staff—including CPSA representatives—showed that staff and claimants in the pilot offices were generally in favour of the system, the CPSA are opposing the continuation of the pilot scheme as part of its campaign to get the Government to change their decision to limit the growth of Civil Service manpower. It has called a one-week strike beginning next Monday of its members in a number of the pilot offices operating the fortnightly procedures—including those at Walton in Liverpool, Cumbernauld, Burton-on-Trent and Widnes. I understand that it hopes thereby to influence the National Insurance Advisory Committee and eventually Parliament to reject the draft regulations.The Government have fully consulted and involved the CPSA at all stages. When the system is extended generally, there will be, in addition to an improvement in services to claimants, savings in money and manpower, but the existing permanent staff have been given a pledge that there will be no redundancies resulting from the introduction of this scheme. In any event, all that the proposed regulations would do is to continue the pilot scheme without any changes in staffing. There is therefore no question of the interests or jobs of CPSA members being put at risk through the general introduction of fortnightly payment, let alone by the continuance of the present experiment. If they proceed with their action it will cause inconvenience and hardship to claimants in the areas concerned.I have personally made this plain to the general secretary of the CPSA and have expressed to him the view that, while the CPSA is fully entitled to express its views on all aspects of the scheme, the legal entitlements of claimants are a matter for Government and Parliament to decide and that the CPSA ought not to seek to further its views by taking industrial action which will in this instance disrupt the service to claimants. I therefore asked that the CPSA should call off this strike action.I very much regret to say that not only has this plea been rejected, but that the CPSA has refused my further request that it should co-operate in making arrangements to minimise the risk of hardship to claimants. My Department will do its utmost in the areas concerned to reduce delays in payment of unemployment benefit, but without the co-operation of the striking staff I cannot guarantee that there will not be hardship to some claimants.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many men and how many women are unemployed in North Staffordshire at present.

At 8th June, 6,372 males and 2,305 females were registered as unemployed in North Staffordshire, which has been taken as the area covered by the Biddulph, Burslem, Cheadle, Hanley, Kidsgrove, Leek, Longton, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Stoke-on-Trent and Stone employment offices.

Telecommunications Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on employment in the telecommunications industry.

Post Office (Dispute)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what action has been taken or is intended to resolve the industrial dispute between the Post Office Engineering Union and the Post Office.

I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Wells (Mr. Boscawen) on 6th June.—[Vol. 951, c. 27–28.]

Activity Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the projected male and female activity rates, respectively, in each of the standard planning regions of Great Britain and in England in 1981, 1986 and 1991.

The projections of activity rates for the standard regions and constituent counties of Great Britain are currently under review. I will write to the hon. Member as soon as the information is available.

Newspapers And Periodicals (Departmental Purchases)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many copies of the following periodicals are regularly obtained by his Department: Morning Star, Socialist Challenge Labour Weekly, Conservative News and Tribune.

The following copies are received:

Morning Star25
Socialist Challengenone
Labour Weekly6
Conservative Newsnone
Tribune15

Leek

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people were

EMPLOYEES IN FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT AT JUNE EACH YEAR
(thousands)
BiddulphCheadleKidsgroveLeek
19713·15·011·311·1
19723·15·110·611·0
19733·25·010·911·2
19752·94·99·610·8
19763·04·89·810·6

Note: Full-time workers are defined as those normally employed for more than 30 hours per week.

Shelton Steel Works

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he is taking to find alternative work in North Staffordshire for Shelton workers who become unemployed and for those in service industries affected by the closure of Shelton.

Regular meetings have been held between the British Steel Corporation and the Manpower Services Commission's employment and training services. The employment service has set up a mini-jobcentre on the Shelton site. It has also held a conference of about 50 local employers to encourage the provision of vacancies for those steelworkers made redundant, and this met with a positive response. A second meeting, which about 90 employers are expected to attend and in which I plan to take part, will take place on 18th July.I understand that the BSC has interviewed the workers likely to be made

in full-time employment as notified to him from the employment areas in the Leek parliamentary constituency at the most recent count; and what were the comparable figures in 1970 and 1974.

Since 1971 information concerning full-time employment has been collected in the annual censuses of employment. The table below shows the numbers of employees in full-time employment in the employment office areas concerned for each year for which the information is available.Corresponding figures are not available for 1974, due to difficulties which arose following the reorganisation of local government. Employment estimates for 1970 are based on counts of national insurance cards and do not distinguish between full-time and part-time employment.redundant and has established that a number wish to be redeployed, some to retire early or to be retrained, some to find other local work, and others to become self-employed. The MSC will, of course, do everything it can to help the workers' requirements to be met.The MSC's training services have arranged a visit of 300 BSC employees to Stoke skillcentre and so far 85 applications under the TOPS scheme have been received. The MSC hopes to be able to offer training places from August, and is also arranging to sponsor BSC supervisors on a course at a local college of further education designed to equip them for similar positions in other industries.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the increase in the number of men who will be unemployed in North Staffordshire when Shelton steel works closes, taking account of the effects on service industries.

It is not possible to estimate this. It will depend not only on the increasing prosperity of other industries in North Staffordshire but on individual decisions to be taken by those declared redundant.

Fish Processing

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report the number of employees engaged in fish processing in England and Wales at 1st June 1978 and in each of the last five years.

My Department's employment statistics are analysed according to the minimum list headings of the standard industrial classification, which does not identify fish processing.Fish processing is included in the heading "Bacon Curing, Meat and Fish Products". The number of employees in employment in this Heading for each of the six years ending 1976, the latest date for which the information is available, are shown in the following table:

Employees in Employment: England and Wales
Bacon Curing Meat and Fish Products
(MLH 214 of the standard industrial classification)
(Thousands)
197186·1
197289·9
197391·8
197493·9
197586·8
197684·4

Farm Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many farm workers were employed in Staffordshire in 1950, 1960, 1970, 1975, 1976 and 1977.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 4th July 1978; Vol. 953, c. 159] gave the following information:The table below shows the numbers of employees in employment in agriculture and horticulture in Staffordshire at mid-1952, 1960, 1970, 1975, and 1976, the latest date for which the information is available. Figures for 1971 are also included to indicate the extent of the discontinuity caused by the change in the method of calculating the figures. Comprabale estimates for the years prior to 1952 are not available.

Employees in employment: Staffordshire

Agriculture and horticulture

Thousands

Mid-19526·7
Mid-19605·9
Mid-19703·8
Mid-1971 (a)

3·3

Mid-1971 (b)5·3
Mid-19755·2
Mid-19765·1

NOTE. Estimates for 1971 ( b) and later years are based on figures collected in the agricultural censuses. Estimates for 1971 ( a) and earlier years are based on counts of national insurance cards.

Industry

European Commission (Regional Aids Review)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what progress the European Commission is making in the review that it has been carrying out of the United Kingdom's system of regional aids; and when the results of that review are expected.

The Government have continued to supply statistical information to the Commission. The result of the review is not expected to be known until next year.

Shipbuilding

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will make a statement on the progress of the British shipbuilding industry since nationalisation.

While much remains to be done, over a prolonged period, to put right the situation inherited from private ownership, the formation of British Shipbuilders has strengthened the industry in facing the severe problems arising from the continuing world-wide shipbuilding recession.

Industrial Development Certificates (Leek)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many industrial development certificates were granted in the Leek parliamentary constituency in 1977; and how this figure compares with those in each of the previous five years.

Statistics for industrial development certificates are not available in respect of parliamentary constituencies. In the employment office areas of Biddulph, Cheadle, Leek and Kidsgrove, which approximate o the Leek constituency, industrial development certificates have been granted as follows:

YearNumber
19725
19738
19742
19752
19765
19774
Exemption limits were raised in July 1972, lowered in September 1974 and raised in May 1976.
GrantedRefused
YearEngland and WalesScotlandTotalEngland and WalesScotlandTotal
19721,400901,49041Nil41
19731,757151,77273Nil73
19741,24331,24657Nil57
1975860Control not applicable86016Control not applicable16
19761,0621,06255
19771,1671,16788
No IDCs were refused in Wales during the years 1972–77.

Note: Since July 1972, IDCs have not been required in the development and special development areas. Following the designation of the Edinburgh and Cardiff areas in August 1974, the IDC control ceased to apply in those areas.

Industrial Assistance

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will outline any changes in the criteria for capital industrial development services since they were first introduced.

My hon. Friend may have in mind the criteria for assistance under Section 8 of the Industry Act 1972. These are set out in the Criteria for Assistance to Industry laid before Parliament, together with the published criteria for individual assistance schemes.

Industrial Development (Staffordshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) to what extent his policies are based on preventing industrial degeneration of areas rather than curing it; and to what extent he has applied this principle in North Staffordshire;(2) what new steps he is taking to induce industry to North Staffordshire in

Industrial Development Certificates

asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) how many applications for industrial development certificates were refused in the United Kingdom in 1977; and how this figure compares with the figures for the previous five years;(2) how many industrial development certificates were granted in England and Wales in 1977; and how this compares with the previous five years.

The table below shows the number of industrial development certificates granted and refused for the years 1972 to 1977, for schemes of 15,000 sq. feet and over, in Great Britain. The control does not operate in Northern Ireland.view of the closure of Shelton steel works and Spillers Bakery.

Our policies are designed not only to regenerate the economies or areas in serious difficulties but also to promote the development of other places. In the administration of the industrial development certificate system we take full account of the special circumstances of North Staffordshire while the area also benefits from the various national schemes of selective assistance to industry.

Sperm Whale Oil Substitutes

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much money he has allocated, provisionally, for further research into substitutes for sperm whale oil after the completion of the current study by the British Leather Manufacturers' Research Association.

As I have stated in the past, I will decide whether it is appropriate for my Department to provide further funds for research into sperm oil substitutes when the outcome of the latest study, founded by my Department through the Garment and Allied Industries' Requirements Board, is known. Any extra funds necessary will be allocated at that time.

Telecommunications

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the future prospects of the telecommunications industry.

My right hon. Friend agrees with the Sector Working Party report for this industry that its future depends mainly on the successful deployment of a modern and exportable digital switching system.

Driving Schools (Car Purchases)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what steps he has taken concerning the level of purchases of British cars by driving schools.

I understand that preliminary returns from a survey just being completed by the Motor Schools' Association suggest that there has been a significant increase over the last two years in the proportion of British built cars being purchased by driving schools, and that over three-quarters of the cars bought by driving schools covered by the survey are now from British manufacturers. I am naturally delighted that British cars are reasserting their traditional strength and popularity among driving schools.

House Of Commons

Identity Passes

asked the Lord President of the Council whether instructions can be given to police on duty in the House to confiscate passes from persons no longer entitled to use them.

Members who are defeated in a General Election are asked to hand in their photo-identity passes as soon as possible, as are all other Members when they leave the House.Members' private secretaries are likewise asked to hand in their passes when they cease to be employed by Members.It is the responsibility of Heads of Departments to reclaim passes from their staff who cease to work in the House of Commons.Editors are asked to return the passes of all journalists when they cease to work in the Press Gallery.The police already help in cases where persons are known to have left but have failed to hand in their passes.

Palace Of Westminster (Guide Dogs)

asked the Lord President of the Council when a ban on the admission to the Palace of Westminster of blind persons' guide dogs was first initiated; and if he will take steps to reconsider this in special circumstances, where blind persons meeting their parliamentary representatives need the help of their trained animals with them.

There is no ban, but each case is considered separately. I am writing to the hon. Member.

House Of Parliament (Visiting Permits)

asked the Lord President of the Council whether he will investigate the allocation of hon. Members' permits for constituency party visits to Parliament; and if he is satisfied with the present operation of issuing permits in view of over-subscription by hon. Members in June and July, when tourism is at its peak.

I am aware that the present system of allocation of line of route permits to hon. Members could be improved, so the Services Committee is looking at this matter afresh.

Palace Of Westminster (Identity Passes)

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will now make a statement on the practice of allowing holders of temporary passes access to the Palace of Westminster without photo-identity cards.

I will refer the point which the hon. Member has raised to the Joint Committee on Security, which is considering the whole question of photo-identity passes.

Small Businesses (Scotland)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what representations he has had from small businesses in Scotland.

I have received representations from many bodies representing small firms which include small businesses in Scotland among their membership. In addition, I have had a number of letters from individual firms in Scotland.

Civil Service

Health And Safety

57.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he is satisfied with the progress being made by the Government in their capacity as employer towards implementation of the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act; and whether sufficient funds will be made available for this purpose.

The Government fully intend to fulfil their obligation to apply the provisions of the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act to the Civil Service, and I am satisfied with the progress that is being made. The Civil Service already sets a high priority on health and safety and provides accordingly for it. In view of the need to continue efforts to contain the size and cost of the Civil Service, any further additional resources required for the implementation of the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act will be provided for where necessary by departments reallocating resources from tasks of lower priority.

Press Officers

asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many Press officers are currently on the establishment of each of the public Departments of State; and how many were employed in June 1974.

The table below shows by department the number of staff in post in the information officer group on 1st April 1974 and 1st January 1978, the nearest dates for which figures are readily available. Information officers are engaged on a variety of duties including general government publicity, Press office work, recruitment advertising, exhibitions, internal information and making films. It is not possible to identify those information officers performing particular duties without disproportionate cost.

Department1st April 19741st January 1978
Agriculture, Fisheries and Food1012
Civil Service Department1918
Defence172160
Education and Science1919
Employment Group3481
Energy*20
Environment (including PSA)9067
Health and Social Security1718
Home Office2025
Information, Central Office of536508
National Savings1012
Overseas Development911
Population, Censuses and Surveys132124
Trade, Industry and Prices and Consumer Protection172177
Transport†13
Treasury1411
Welsh Office1521
Scottish Office1923
Other Departments1930
1,3071,350
Part-time staff counted as half-units.
* For 1974 the figures for the Department of Energy are included in those for the Department of Trade and Industry Group.
† For 1974 the figures for the Department of Transport are included in those for the Department of the Environment.

Scotland

Hospital Pay Beds (Revenue)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the estimated revenue from pay beds in Scotland in 1977–78 and in 1976–77 respectively.

Income from private resident patients in 1976–77 was about £511,000. The estimate for 1977–78 is £530,000.

Rescobie Loch (Protection Order)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland why the application by the Rescobie Loch Development Association for a protection order for Rescobie loch was not forwarded to the appropriate consultative committee; and who is responsible for taking these decisions.

The application was not considered acceptable for consideration for the making of a protection order under the Freshwater and Salmon Fisheries (Scotland) Act 1976 as it did not cover a substantial area such as a major river system. It was, therefore, not appropriate to refer it to the consultative committee. I have, however, suggested to the association that I would be ready to consider proposals covering a wider area.

Salmon And Freshwater Fisheries Act

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland why only two applications have been forwarded to the consultative committee as laid down in the Salmon and Freshwater Fisheries Act; and if he will give figures to compare this number with the total of applications which he has received to date.

Proposals have so far been referred to the consultative committee in only one case, namely, for the rivers Tweed and Eye. Initial approaches have been made to my Department for the submission of proposals in eight other cases. Seven of these have been found to be too limited in scope: one is still under consideration and, if found acceptable, will be referred to the consultative committee in due course.

Poultry Meat Inspection

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what financial contribution he has made or proposes to make towards the costs of recruiting and training poultry meat inspectors; and what funds he proposes to make available to assist in meeting costs of inspection incurred under the Poultry Meat Hygiene Regulations.

The Government will provide assistance towards the setting up of the local authority poultry meat inspection service which is required to be in full operation by August 1979. Grants at the rate of 50 per cent. of the eligible expenditure will be payable in respect of staff employed and trained for this purpose. The detailed arrangements will be discussed with the appropriate organisations.Supplementary Estimates will be presented in due course.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied that costs and standards of recruiting and training poultry meat inspectors and of inspection under the Poultry Meat Hygiene Regulations in Scotland will be comparable to those applying elsewhere in the United Kingdom.

Training and recruitment courses for poultry meat inspectors are being organised to a standard format at a number of centres throughout the United Kingdom. Although there will inevitably be some variation in local costs, it is too early to make any comparison between centres. Every effort is being made to achieve uniformity in the standards of training and of inspection throughout the United Kingdom.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what information he has relating to financial assistance given by other EEC Governments towards the costs of inspection under the poultry meat hygiene regulations.

Only limited information is available on the costs of inspection in other EEC countries, hence the extent to which these costs may be assisted. It is apparent, however, that charging practices vary widely from country to country.

North Sea Oil Development (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give his latest estimate in as much detail as possible of the nature and location of the approximately 55,000 to 65,000 jobs which the Government has estimated arise from North Sea oil or are oil-related, in Scotland.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer given the hon. Member for Dundee, East (Mr. Wilson) on 27th April 1978—[Vol. 948, c. 659.]

Scottish Development Agency

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to determine the financial duties in relation to its different functions of the Scottish Development Agency.

My right hon. Friend intends to make a determination under section 12 of the Scottish Development Agency Act 1975 and to announce it to the House before the Summer Recess.

Herring Fishing Ban

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what discussions he has had with fish canners and processors in Scotland about the consequences of the ban on herring fishing; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on his talks with the Herring Buyers' Association to discuss its scheme for compensation for the shortage of supplies of fish.

My hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State with responsibility for agriculture and fisheries had a meeting on 30th June with the Herring Buyers' Association, which represents canners and other processors, and with the unions. The association put forward proposals for Government financial assist-

FULL-TIME FISHERMEN (EXCLUDING CROFTER FISHERMEN) EMPLOYED IN SCOTTISH FISHERIES DISTRICTS AS AT 31ST DECEMBER
District19731974197519761977
Eyemouth200212201205192
Leith470507510381382
Anstruther372361343339358
Arbroath208200193169165
Aberdeen1,4631,3161,0411,1071,041
Peterhead508574556603656
Fraserburgh782767705673634
Macduff652634632605634
Buckie629631590604618
Lossiemouth553527447466473
Wick265223185182176
Lerwick661681636624632
Stornoway359389381403420
Ullapool172151152190203
Mallaig218231200202195
Oban4866807892
Campbeltown330315286316322
Ayr421387369413432
Total8,3118,1727,5077,5607,625

Fish Processing

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report the number of employees engaged in fish processing in Scotland at 1st June 1978 and in each of the last five years.

ance to the industry which are now being examined urgently.

Although it is estimated that about 2,000 workers are employed at various times of the year on herring processing, the availability of imported supplies and the scope for diversification to other forms of processing have to be taken into account in considering the employment effects of a reduction in herring supplies from our own waters. The effects are therefore difficult to forecast.

Fishermen

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report the number of full-time fishermen in Scotland by port at 1st June 1978 and in each of the last five years.

Mid-year figures are not available. My Department undertakes an annual survey of the number of full, part-time and crofter fishermen employed in each of the fisheries districts as at 31st December. The numbers of full-lime fishermen in each fisheries district indicated by this survey are as follows:

The Department of Employment's statistics of employment are analysed according to the minimum list headings of the standard industrial classification, which does not identify fish processing separately. Fish processing is included in heading 214 "Bacon curing, meat and fish products". The numbers of employees in employment in this heading for each of the six years ending 1976, the latest date for which the information is available, are shown in the following table:

EMPLOYEES IN EMPLOYMENT
MLH 214 Bacon curing, meat and fish products
197117,900
197218,900
197319,200
197419,400
197516,800
197616,700
My Department estimated in 1977 that there were rather more than 8,000 people employed in fish processing in Scotland. It is also estimated that there are about 2,000 workers employed at various times of the year on herring processing.

Fish Conservation

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what assessment he has made of the hardship which will be caused to fishermen as a result of the necessary conservation measures announced on 3rd July 1978; and what advice his officials are giving them on alternative fishing opportunities.

The closure of the West of Scotland herring grounds will seriously reduce the fishing opportunities for this species. It is difficult, however, at this stage to assess the full effect of this since a number of boats which have been fishing for herring should be able to transfer to the fishing of other species. My right hon. Friend does not expect the other conservation measures which have been taken to have a significant effect on fishing activities by Scottish fishermen.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he proposes to introduce a scheme to compensate fishermen for the loss of fishing opportunities as a result of the necessary conservation measures introduced on 3rd July.

It is not possible to assess what effect these additional measures may have on fishing activities, particularly in view of the possibility of diversion of effort on to other fisheries. My right hon. Friend does not therefore have any proposals at this stage for providing compensation for the loss of fishing opportunities.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what additional resources he considers will be necessary to enforce and police the necessary conservation measures announced on 3rd July.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied that the resources at present available are sufficient to enforce United Kingdom fishing regulations, including the measures announced on 3rd July. The deployment and utilisation of these resources are regularly reviewed in the light of prevailing circumstances.

Education And Science

Nursery Education (Lancashire)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total sum allocated to Lancashire County Council under the nursery building programme for the forthcoming year; how many full-time places will be provided and where the classes will be located.

The Lancashire County Council has been allocated the sum of £54,600 under the 1978–79 nursery building programme. The projects to be undertaken under this programme are subject to the approval of the council's education committee, the next meeting of which is on 11th July, but it is proposed that four classes, each of 25 places, should be provided by adaptation at the following primary schools: Deepdale County Primary School, Preston; Farringdon Park County Primary School, Preston; St. Mary's Roman Catholic Primary School, Leyland; Leavengreave County Primary School, Whitworth.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total sum allocated to Knowsley Council for nursery projects under the urban aid programme for the forthcoming year how many full-time places will be provided; and where the classes will be located.

Knowsley Council has been allocated the total sum of £51,450—£25,500 capital costs and £25,950 recurrent costs—under the 1978–79 urban aid programme in order to provide three 30-place nursery classes by adaptation and the staff required to run them. The classes will be attached to the following primary schools: St. Anges RC Primary School, Huyton; St. Monks RC Primary School, Halwood; Sacred Heart RC Primary School, Kirkby.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total sum allocated to Sefton Council for nursery projects under the urban aid programme for the forthcoming year; how many full-time places will result; and where the classes will be located.

Sefton Council has been allocated the total sum of £31,700 under the 1978–79 urban aid programme in order to cover the salaries of one nursery teacher and one nursery nurse at five nursery classes previously provided but not staffed. The classes will each have 30 full-time places and will be attached to the following primary schools: Christ Church School, Waterloo; Hatton Hill Infants' School, Litherland; Woodvale Infants' School, Southport; Netherton Park Infants' School, Netherton; Holy Ghost RC Infants' School, Netherton.

Secondary School Building (Leek)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much was spent on secondary school building in the Leek parliamentary constituency in each of the past five years.

The information is as follows:

1973–74£12,000
1974–75£131,800
1975–76Nil
1976–77£225,718
1977–78£702,610

Teachers' General Council

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will make a statement on progress towards the establishment of a teachers' general council.

My right hon. Friend has made clear on many occasions that she wil be very ready to consider, in consultation with other interests, any agreed proposals which the teachers' organisations may put forward.

Polytechnics

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is her policy towards the charging by polytechnics of fees to students for field and similar courses which are obligatory for particular degrees, in addition to fees determined for advanced level courses, when the fees for the extra courses are not considered as part of the needs of the student as determined in the awards regulations.

It would be contrary to Government policy for a mandatory award holder to be charged a fee for his course greater than that allowed for in his award.Although the fees to be charged in polytechnics are a matter for the governing bodies of the individual establishments, my right hon. Friend recommends the amounts to be charged for tuition fees and, through the awards regulations, sets a corresponding limit on the amount of such fees which may be paid as part of a mandatory award. My right hon. Friend recognises that this amount falls short of the full cost of provision, and she would expect the difference between the recommended fee and the full cost to be charged to the running costs of the establishment. In a maintained college, this would then be an admissible charge on the advanced further education pool.Under an agreement reached with the local authority associations in 1975, mandatory awards to students at maintained establishments of further education do not include any assistance towards the cost of field courses or vacation study. Students should seek any assistance needed for these items from the establishment.

Wales

Coal Miners' Houses (Improvement Loans)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what loans have ben received in Wales from the EEC for the improvement of coal miners' houses; and what is the total value of loans to the United Kingdom for coal miners' houses from the EEC.

The National Coal Board has received £2 million from the European Coal and Steel Community, of which £50,000 has been allocated for the improvement of the board's housing stock in Wales, by way of low interest loans.

Welsh Language

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will take steps to ensure the early establishment of a Welsh language college within the University of Wales.

The university is an autonomous body and it is not for me to seek to intervene in its internal organisation or development.

Personal Social Service Projects (Financing)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the applications for funds together with the sponsoring authority that he has received in response to circular 51/78 which he issued on joint financing of personal social services projects, indicating which ones he has approved and their cost.

The following applications for contributions from central funds towards the cost of jointly financed personal social service projects have been received from health authorities in response to circular 51/78:

Authority Application for:

CLWYD

  • (a) Night sitter service for patients being nursed at home.
  • (b) Residential accommodation for the elderly.
  • DYFED

    ( a) Residential accommodation for the mentally ill.

    GWENT

  • (a) Resettlement officer for the mentally ill.
  • (b) Hostel for the mentally handicapped.
  • POWYS

  • (a) Development of child guidance services.
  • (b) Halfway house for the mentally ill.
  • SOUTH GLAMORGAN

  • (a) Hostel for mentally ill.
  • (b) Residential accommodation for mentally handicapped.
  • (c) Social worker to help mentally handicapped.
  • (d) Home help services for psychogeriatric patients.
  • (e) Day centre staff to assist dependent elderly.
  • (f) Accommodation officer to assist mentally ill and mentally handicapped.
  • (g) Hostel for mentally handicapped.
  • The other three health authorities are also considering with relevant local authorities the possibility of making an application for funds this year.

    I have so far approved the application for the development of child guidance services in Powys, the annual cost of which will be £2,500. I expect to approve other applications shortly.

    Home Insulation (Public Sector)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what allocations were made to Welsh housing authorities for the insulation of public sector dwellings in 1978–79.

    Allocations made to individual authorities are as follows:

    £
    Aberconwy BC30,000
    Afan BC30,000
    Alyn and Deeside DC40,000
    Arfon DC20,000
    Blaenau Gwent DC63,000
    Brecknock BC15,000
    Cardiff CC100,000
    Carmarthen DC35,000
    Ceredigion DC12,000
    Colwyn BC18,000
    Delyn DC30,000
    Dinefwr BC18,000
    Dwyfor DC10,000
    Glyndwr DC35,000
    Islwyn DC45,000
    Llanelli BC10,000
    Lliw Valley BC28,000
    Merthyr Tydfil BC35,000
    Monmouth DC18,000
    Montgomery DC10,000
    Neath BC20,000
    Newport BC70,000
    Ogwr BC25,000
    Preseli DC40,000
    Radnor DC3,000
    Rhuddlan DC5,000
    Rhymney Valley DC65,000
    South Pembrokeshire DC50,000
    Swansea CC100,000
    Taff Ely BC60,000
    Torfaen BC50,000
    Vale of Glamorgan BC65,000
    Wrexham Maelor BC100,000
    Ynys Mon BC40,000
    Cwmbran Development Corporation5,000
    TOTAL£1,300,000

    Straying Animals

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what decisions he has taken to implement the recommendations of the working party on straying dogs and other straying animals.

    The recommendations of the working party on dogs are at present under consideration.The recommendations of the working party on straying animals were implemented in 1973. Thirteen local working parties were established in South Wales. Most of thes have completed their studies and remedial work is proceeding as resources become available.

    Putney

    Q30.

    I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

    Disaster Relief

    Q34.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will assume personal responsibility for disaster relief.

    I have been asked to reply.The hon. Member may assume that my right hon. Friend does not intend to make any changes in ministerial appointments or responsibilities—including his taking on any of the existing responsibilities of other Ministers—unless and until he makes a statment to the contrary.

    Hove

    Q39.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will pay an official visit to Hove.

    I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

    Nationalised Industries

    Q35.

    asked the Prime Minister when he last met the heads of nationalised industries.

    I have been asked to reply.I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Mr. Winterton) on 16th May.

    Colne

    Q44.

    I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

    Constitutional Court

    Q46.

    asked the Prime Minister if, in view of the doubt expressed by Lord Wilberforce and Lord Scarman on the workability of the Scotland Bill he will bring forward legislation to establish a constitutional court in Great Britain.

    National Economic Development Council

    Q48.

    asked the Prime Minister when he next expects to attend a meeting of the National Economic Development Council.

    I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Chester-le-Street (Mr. Radice) on 9th May.

    Government Policies (Prime Minister's Address)

    Q49.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will place in the Library a copy of his speech at Brecon on the progress of Government policy on Saturday 17th June.

    I have been asked to reply.I refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdare (Mr. Evans) on 4th July.

    European Community (Enlargement)

    Q51.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will seek to place on the agenda for the EEC Heads of Government in July the question of the economic effects of the proposed enlargement of the Community.

    I have been asked to reply.There is no formal agenda for the European Council. My right hon. Friend has no plans to raise enlargement at the meeting of the European Council which begins today, but it may be touched on in the course of the discussions.

    Top Salaries

    asked the Prime Minister before implementing the Boyle Committee report on top salaries, if he will take account of the fact that some recipients receive many emoluments, such as free and tax free travel, tax free expenses, houses and food.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bradford, North (Mr. Ford) on 4th July. The benefits provided for those covered by the report of the Review Body on Top Salaries is properly a matter for the Review Body itself to consider in assessing the appropriate level of remuneration.

    Prime Minister's Department (Pay Increases)

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will list the staff in his Department who have recently had salary increases; and what these increases were in either cash or percentage terms.

    With the exception of those staff whose pay is subject to recommendations by the Review Body on Top Salaries and who are covered by the terms of the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bradford, North (Mr. Ford) on 4th July, all the staff in my office have received pay increases in line with the 1st April 1978 pay award for the non-industrial Civil Service. This followed the 10 per cent pay guidelines and provided generally for consolidation of the phase 1 and 2 supplements, where applicable, and an overall 9·5 per cent. increase.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he is able to state the Government's decision on the recommendations of the Boyle committee on the top salary scales.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bradford, North (Mr. Ford) on 4th July.

    Secret And Classified Documents

    asked the Prime Minister, when he next meets President Carter, if he will discuss the President's decision to change the rules on secret and classified documents to liberalise these and to allow their public examination, in order to ascertain to what extent similar action can be taken in Great Britain in furtherance of his policy of more open government.

    I have no plans to do so, although I follow changes in the practice of the United States with interest.

    Secretary Of State For Trade (Speech)

    asked the Prime Minister whether the public speech on selective import controls by the Secretary of State for Trade to the Consumers' Association in London on 21st June represents Government policy.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Hoyle) on 26th June.

    Prime Minister's Question Time

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will discuss with the various Opposition leaders and the Procedure Committee the possibility of extending his twice-weekly 15-minute Question Time to half an hour.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Poultry Meat (Inspection)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the costs being incurred on the export of hen meat to Holland due to the imposition of three days' supervision by veterinarians at £11·50 per hour in respect of one day's production amounting to 11p per pound.

    I am aware of one case in which costs of this order were incurred. I understand that there were exceptional circumstances and expect that, once a regular working pattern is established, costs to the company concerned should be considerably less. There should be further reductions when sufficient poultry meat inspectors are available to assist with this work.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in the light of the rules of EEC competition, the Dutch Government are paying the costs of inspection of poultry meat up to August 1979; and what costs are being borne by British firms, such as St. Ives Food Products.

    From the limited information available to me, I understand this to be the position in the Netherlands. In Great Britain the effect of the decision announced on 30th June is that the Government will meet half the costs of introducing the poultry meat inspection service. The compatibility of State aids with the rules of EEC competition policy is primarily a matter for the EEC Commission.—[Vol. 952, co. 701–2.]

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether it is necessary for fully qualified veterinary surgeons to supervise the packing and unpacking of cartons of poultry meat which has already been inspected by another veterinary surgeon at a cost of £11·50 per hour.

    I assume that the hon. Member has in mind a situation where poultry meat, which has been certified for export, is subsequently unpacked for some further processing and then repacked. In these circumstances, supervision is necessary to ensure that the meat retains its export status and is not exposed to contamination or substituted. The actual supervision can be carried out by a poultry meat inspector provided the overall responsibility remains with the official veterinary surgeon.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he has taken to ensure that standards of inspection in Great Britain for poultry meat are not more onerous than those applied by other EEC countries.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for Oswestry (Mr. Biffen) on 29th June 1978.—[Vol. 952, c. 684.]

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food which EEC Governments, apart from the United Kingdom, are not contributing to the costs of poultry meat inspection during the transitional period up to August 1979.

    As far as this country is concerned, I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mr. Corbett) on 30th June 1978. As regards other EEC countries, the information available is not complete enough to allow a definite answer to be given.—[Vol. 952, c. 701–2.]

    Foodstuffs (Supply Emergencies)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied that in the event of an emergency the arrangements for supplies of basic foodstuffs remain adequate, in view of the curtailment by Eastern Electricity and other boards of emergency situation or "O" consumers, including yeast factories.

    I am aware that a few food manufacturers have been informed that they will no longer be regarded as falling within the "O" classification. However, I understand that "O" classification is intended to relate to the type of operating plant and not to what is being produced. There is collaboration between this Department, the Department of Energy and the electricity supply industry in maintaining plans for possible electricity supply emergencies.

    Salmon Netting Licences

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much additional revenue has been generated for water authorities by increases in the cost of salmon netting licences since 1976.

    This information is not available within my Department, but inquiries are to be made with those water authorities which have raised their charges since 1978. I will provide a further reply as soon as possible.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food which water authorities have increased the price of salmon netting licences since 1976.

    The Anglian, Northumbrian, North-West, Severn-Trent, Wessex and Yorkshire water authorities have increased the price of their salmon netting licences since 1976.

    NUMBER OF FISHERMEN REGULARLY EMPLOYED AS AT 31ST DECEMBER
    19731974197519761977
    North Shields262254250208220
    Hull2,2202,0341,8711,643945
    Grimsby2,2782,2391,9001,7601,620
    Lowestoft848622688687564
    Fleetwood870798650640650
    Milford Haven114114124106106
    Others3,6073,7383,5333,6864,067
    Total10,1999,7999,0168,7308,172

    Source: Sea Fisheries Inspectorate of MAFF.

    Overseas Development

    Organisation Of African Unity

    56.

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether she is satisfied that the surveillance procedures adopted by the Treasury, the Foreign Office and her Ministry are working effect-

    Poultry (Stocking Density)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will withdraw the handout issued by his Department on 30th May referring inter alia to his poultry unit exhibited at the Royal Show which drew attention to the savings which could result from the conservation of the heat generated by poultry at a stocking density of eight birds per square metre in the light of the fact that such a stocking density is greater than that recommended by the codes of practice introduced following the Bramble Report.

    I accept that the compressed wording of this general Press notice about the Ministry's exhibits at the Royal Show could have been misunderstood in this respect; but nothing in the exhibit itself nor in the related leaflet available at the show could be construed as encouraging non-compliance with the welfare codes.

    Fishermen (Employment)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish in the Official Report the number of full-time fishermen in England and Wales by port at 1st June 1978 and in each of the last five years.

    I regret that the information is not available in the form requested. The estimates available are as follows:tively to ensure that no British aid funds to the Organisation of African Unity or any of its member States are included, directly or indirectly, in the financial support being given by that body to organisations engaged in the perpetration of acts of terrorism against the civilian population in Rhodesia, Namibia and South Africa.

    Yes. United Kingdom aid to the OAU consists only of small amounts of technical co-operation: we provided two agronomists in recent years, and have agreed to provide four experts in food grains research and development. Aid to its member States is subject to normal checks and controls. We are satisfied that our procedures are effective in preventing the diversion of United Kingdom aid from the OAU or its member States to other organisations.

    Trade

    European Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what percentage of exports from the United Kingdom went to EEC countries in each of the past 10 years.

    The figures are:

    United Kingdom Exports to EEC as proportion of total United Kingdom Exports
    percentages, balance of payments basis
    196826·7
    196927·7
    197028·9
    197127·7
    197230·0
    197332·5
    197433·7
    197532·2
    197635·5
    197736·8

    Pvc Inflatables (Imports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what arrangements exist, and with which countries, concerning the control of imports of PVC inflatables into the United Kingdom.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many anti-dumping applications have been made in each of the past three years for which figures are available, and with what result, regarding imported PVC inflatables.

    There have been no applications to my Department or, to my knowledge, to the EEC Commission.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what have been the imports by value and volume in each of the past three years for which figures are available of PVC inflatables into the United Kingdom listed by country of origin.

    I regret that figures are not available, as these products are not separately distinguished in the overseas trade statistics.

    Oil Slick (Rathlin Island)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what steps he is now prepared to take to break up the oil slick threatening Rathlin Island.

    Recent gales have released a further quantity of oil from the wreck of the "Ella Hewitt". The amount is not great and the oil is not posing a significant threat to coastlines. Action to deal with the wreck itself was deferred till the autumn at the request of the wildlife interests.

    Seal Pelts (Imports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the outcome of his consultations with other interested Departments in order to determine whether there should be a revision of the Government's attitude towards the import of Canadian seal pelts.

    I am considering the responses which I have now received from all the other interested departments and I will make a further announcement as soon as possible.

    Cinemas (Eady Levy)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he is satisfied that the relief measures last September are likely to produce for cinemas the desired £1 million relief from the Eady levy.

    Yes, and I have taken the advice of the Cinematograph Films Council. It does not appear that there will be any significant shortfall in the intended relief but the economic position of cinemas has not improved and I am considering whether to put further proposals to the House.

    Horsemeat (Exports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the tonnage of horse meat exported from Great Britain for each of the last five years; and which countries were the principal importers of this meat.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 5th July 1978; Vol. 953, col. 209], gave the following information:Following is the available information on exports from the United Kingdom of fresh, chilled or frozen horsemeat:

    Tons
    1973*246
    I9741,060
    19751,382
    19764,507
    1977*7,292
    Over 99 per cent of these exports were consigned to the Netherlands, Belgium-Luxembourg, and France.*Figures for 1973 and 1977 may include negligible quantities of the meat of asses, mules and hinnies.Source: United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics, SITC(R) 011.5.

    Environment

    Toxic Products Tips

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the directions issued by his Department to local authorities to survey tips for toxic products used by the Services and his Department.

    Part I of the Control of Pollution Act 1974, which deals with waste on land, does not apply to the Crown. Nevertheless, the Crown is expected to comply with its requirements wherever possible. Department of the Environment Circular No. 55/76 asked Government Departments, the Armed Services and the waste disposal authorities to collaborate in ensuring that the same precautions are observed on Crown-exempt disposal sites and facilities as on others.

    Noise And Thermal Insulation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied with the general standards of noise and thermal insulation in use in the inner London area.

    I would refer the right hon. Member to my answer to him on 17th May 1978 in respect of my right hon. Friend's limited responsibility regard- ing the London Building (Constructional) By-Laws 1972.—[Vol. 950, col. 213.]There are no bye laws in inner London specifically directed to acoustic and thermal insulation, but these are to some extent catered for by construction requirements for other purposes. In practice these requirements, together with the National House-Building Council's specification in the private sector and administrative controls in the public sector, ensure that the great majority of new dwellings in inner London meet standards equivalent to those set by the building regulations for thermal and acoustic insulation.

    Waste Material (Recycling)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what has been the expenditure by his Department on research into the uses of refuse, particularly of plastics in each of the past five years;(2) what has been the expenditure by his Department on research into the collection and recycling of waste paper in each of the past five years.

    Since 1971 the Department has sponsored research into the mechanical sorting of municipal waste and the production of a waste-derived fuel but it is not possible to identify the separate elements of this work. In 1973–74, 1974–75 and 1975–76 expenditure was about £100,000 a year, rising to £270,000 in 1976–77 and £1,320,000 in 1977–78.

    Building And Construction Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans his Department has for the nationalisation and State ownership of the building and construction industry; and if he will make a statement.

    I have nothing to add to the answer I gave the hon. Member for Brentwood and Ongar (Mr. McCrindle) on 29th June.— [Vol. 952, c. 648.]

    Farm Shops And Roadside Selling

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the increase in farm shops and roadside selling, he will make a statement as to the requirements for planning permission and indicate any possible simplifications.

    It is for the local planning authority to decide in any individual case whether planning permission is required. We shall be giving guidance on this subject in the next revision of Development Control Policy Note No. 4 "Development in Rural Areas".

    Agricultural Derating

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether agricultural derating applies to all farms; if not, upon what criteria exemption from rating is not available; and whether food fish farms are classified as agricultural activities for rating purposes.

    By virtue of Section 26 of the General Rate Act 1967 agricultural land and buildings are not rateable. The Act also defines agricultural land and buildings but there is some uncertainty at present as to whether or not the definitions include fish farms of any sort and there is a case pending before the Lands Tribunal on this issue.

    Fish Farms

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether fish farms producing fish for food are classified as agriculture under the general development order for planning purposes.

    £ million
    1976–771977–781978–79
    RF contributions to HRA169·0282·0224·0
    Total relevant expenditure10,461·211,716·612,531·0

    Transport

    Roads (Maintenance)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport in the light of the large number of potholes and dangerous roads following the lack of repairs due to the cutdown on money allocated for this purpose, to what extent he estimates that accidents and loss of life have been caused by the dangerous condition of the roads; and if he will take steps to reduce the amount to be spent on the seat belts campaign and increase the sums to be spent on road maintenance.

    Class VI of Schedule 1 of the Town and Country Planning General Development Order 1977 permits building or engineering operations requisite for the use of land for the purposes of agriculture, subject to certain limitations of size. The definition of agriculture includes

    "the breeding and keeping of livestock (including any creature kept for the production of food)".
    We are advised that fish farms producing fish for food come within this definition.

    Rate Fund Contributions

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the value of that part of relevant expenditure for rate support grant purposes which was attributable to rate fund contributions to housing revenue accounts in England and Wales in 1976–77 and 1977–78; and what that value is expected to be in 1978–79.

    The computation of relevant expenditure used as the basis for the rate support grant settlements for 1976–77, 1977–78 and 1978–79 were published in Department of the Environment Circulars 129/75, 120/76 and 8/78 respectively.The figures for rate fund contributions to housing revenue accounts and for total relevant expenditure in England and Wales were as follows:monitored by the annual road condition survey which is being carried out by local authorities in conjunction with my Department. But I have no evidence that the restriction of funds for maintenance has led to an increase in casualties. The cost of seat belt publicity campaigns is very small in relation to the cost of maintenance, and these campaigns can be very cost-effective.

    Stoke-Derby Road (Staffordshire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he intends to publish the preferred route of the Staffordshire section of the Stoke-Derby Road.

    I appreciate the concern for an early decision on this scheme; as I told the hon. Member on 5th April, we are hoping to make an announcement during the course of the summer about our proposals for dealing with the most urgent sections of the route.—[Vol. 947, c. 436.]

    Drivers (Tests And Licences)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will circulate in the Official Report details of present and proposed fees for each type of driving test appointment and for the various drivers' licences.

    The details are:

    DRIVING TEST APPOINTMENT FEES
    L testHGV testPSV test
    £7·30£30·00No fee
    DRIVERS' LICENCE FEES
    OrdinaryHGVPSV
    Provisional£2·00£1·50None issued
    Full licence£5·00*£3·00£0·50
    Full licence renewal (over 65s)£1·00*
    Duplicate or exchange£2·00£0·75£0·05
    * Since 1st January 1976, the fees charged for full ordinary driving licences have been once-for-all payments covering all further renewals of the licence. The fee is £5·00, except in the case of a person renewing an existing licence who is 65 or over when the new licence takes effect for whom the fee is £1 only. By the end of April 1979, all existing holders of full licences will have had occasion to make the appropriate once-for-all payment. The lower rate of fee, having served its purposes, will be discontinued. There are at present no other proposals for change.

    Motorways (Driving Standards)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what further steps he intends to take to improve the standard of motorway driving.

    We shall continue to give publicity to the need for better driving standards on all roads, including motorways.

    Motor-Free Sunday (Legislation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will introduce legislation to seek to establish a motor-free day on a suitable Sunday.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Ampersand Ltd

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why normal purchasing procedures were not observed by his Department in payments made to Ampersand Ltd. as reimbursement of expenses in connection with publications.

    Most publications are purchased through Her Majesty's Stationery Office but from time to time purchases are made under other arrangements.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs why it has been the practice of his Department to reimburse Ampersand Ltd. for overhead expenses in years when very small quantities of publications were purchased by the Foreign Office.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the annual payments in the last five years from his Department (a) to Ampersand Limited for purchases from Bodley Head, (b) to Ampersand Limited for other expenses in connection with publications, and (c) to other suppliers of publications.

    Books and publications are bought from a great many sources. The details requested could not be provided except at disproportionate expense.

    Ussr (Human Rights Trials)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what evidence he has of harassment of British journalists in the USSR by Soviet authorities for their coverage of human rights trials and related events; and if he will make a statement.

    On my right hon Friend's instructions, Her Majesty's embassy at Moscow made official representations to the Soviet Ministry of Foreign Affairs about the treatment of certain British correspondents while covering the trial of Professor Orlov. The Ministry undertook to pass on the British Government's representations to the appropriate authorities. No further requests for official action have been received from British journalists.

    Morrocco

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has received from the Moroccan Government concerning territorial disputes in which they are involved; and what has been Her Majesty's Government's response.

    The Moroccan Government have on a number of occasions explained their case on the territorial dispute concerning the Western Sahara. Her Majesty's Government, while consistently maintaining their commitment to the principle of self-determination, have made clear that they believe that this dispute should be solved by peaceful means by the parties directly concerned.

    National Finance

    Post-War Credits

    53.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps he has taken to publicise the rights of citizens to claim for payment of post-war tax credits; and whether he is satisfied that those who have such rights are claiming them.

    Extensive publicity by means of press advertising, posters and BBC announcements was undertaken in 1972 and 1973 when the general release of post-war credits was authorised. A new round of publicity has just been launched to bring to the notice of the public the final date-31st December 1978—for the acceptance of claims where certificates cannot be produced.I am satisfied that all reasonable steps are being taken to bring their entitlement to the notice of those entitled to claim.

    Top Salaries

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to what extent he estimates the full implementation of the Boyle report on top salaries will affect inflation if the same amounts of increases are universally applied among all of the staffs and workers engaged in the industries and services covered by these chairmen and top paid persons.

    Because of the very small number of people involved the full implementation of the increases recommended in the tenth report of the Top Salaries Review Body would have an insignificant effect on inflation. The recommendations are tailored to the very special circumstances of the groups concerned and there can be no question of the recommended increases being applied to any other group. But if they were applied to those others in the industries and services concerned in place of the increases they have received since 1972, the result would be a substantial cut in pay.

    Dividends

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in the light of the fact that many companies are announcing dividends of as much as a 100 per cent. above those given in 1977, he will now announce the Government's policy on dividend restraint as from August 1978.

    I have nothing to add to the reply given to the hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, Central (Mr. Cant) on 6th June.

    Taxation Costs

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the revenue and administration costs of each of the taxes in the United Kingdom, and the estimated total cost to taxpayers of complying with payment of each of these taxes.

    Post-War Credits

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total amount of post-war tax credits outstanding for repayment when these were stopped; what proportion of these should have been repaid already; and how much of this entitlement has been claimed.

    It is estimated that the total amount of income tax post-war credits created for the years 1941–42 to 1945–46, when the post-war credit arrangements came to an end, was £765 million. All those entitled to post-war credits have been entitled to claim repayment without restriction, since 1973.Of the original £765 million of credit, it is estimated that over 93 per cent. has now been repaid; it is likely that a significant part of the balance outstanding will, for a variety of reasons, never be claimed.

    Vehicle Excise Duty

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what revenue he anticipates collecting by way of road fund taxes of private motorists and heavy goods vehicles, respectively, and in total, in the current year; and what he anticipates raising by way of petrol and fuel oil tax, based on latest estimates of vehicle mileages.

    Revenue in 1978–79 from each of these sources is estimated to be as follows:

    £ million
    Vehicle excise duty on private motorists750
    Vehicle excise duty on heavy goods vehicles*225
    Total vehicle excise duty†1,075
    Excise duty on petrol1,650
    Excise duty on derv570
    * Vehicles over 1½ tons unladen weight (3½ tons gross weight).
    † Includes revenue from goods vehicles less than 1½ tons, cycles, tractors, hackneys and miscellaneous.

    Gross Domestic Product

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, from information available from international sources, what was the gross domestic product per head at factor cost in Canada for the most recent year for which information is available; and how this compares with the figure for the United Kingdom.

    The latest year for which information is available is 1976. Details are as follows:

    Gross Domestic Product at Factor Cost Per Head of Total Population
    US Dollars
    Canada7,482
    United Kingdom3,508

    Source: National Accounts of OECD countries 1976 (Vol. 1).

    The conversion to United States dollars in this publication was on the basis of official or market rates of exchange, which do not reflect the relative internal purchasing power of the currencies and can thus be very misleading. Estimates based on purchasing power parities are not available for Canada.

    Tax Evasion (Prosecutions)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many prosecutions there were in each of the past five years for tax evasion; and how many of these resulted in convictions.

    Development Land Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the amount by which the revenue from development land tax would be reduced in a full year if developments for retail use were afforded the same reliefs as those available for industrial development.

    I regret that information upon which to base such an estimate is not available.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the amount by which the revenue from development land tax would be reduced in a full year if developments for hotel and catering use were afforded the same reliefs as those available for industrial development.

    I regret that information upon which to base such an estimate is not available.

    Stamp Duty

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the yield of stamp duty of residential property for the last 10 financial years.

    Ticket Touts (Tax Assessments)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to arrange for tax assessments on ticket touts to be based on an estimate of their profits.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 5th July 1978; Vol. 953, c. 185], gave the following information:The law already provides, in certain circumstances, for tax to be based on an estimate of profits, but there are obvious practical difficulties in identifying those involved in the sort of activities referred to in the Question.

    Kirkby (Law Centre)

    asked the Attorney-General what steps he is taking to help establish a law centre in Kirkby.

    Officials from my noble Friend's Department have had discussions with officers of the local authority, which is looking at the possibility of setting up a law centre in Kirkby, and have met representatives of interested local groups. My noble Friend regrets that it has not been possible for him to assist the project financially.

    Crime (Sentences)

    asked the Attorney-General if he will consult the judiciary and other appropriate authorities with a view to considering increasing the sentences passed in cases of serious crime.

    Subject to maximum penalties laid down by Parliament, the appropriate sentence in a particular case is entirely within the discretion of the court. It is not open to my noble Friend the Lord Chancellor, or any other Minister, to seek to influence the way in which that discretion is exercised.

    Land Registration

    asked the Attorney General what is the current rate of progress for compulsory registration of land.

    Compulsory registration of title on sale of land, which now extends to areas comprising 74·2 per cent. of the population of England and Wales, has been extended at an average annual rate of 6 per cent. of that population over the last four years.

    The numbers of first registrations in areas of compulsory registration for the last four years are as follows:

    1974–75200,483
    1975–76292,718
    1976–77306,903
    1977–78361,164

    Defence

    Sperm Whale Oil Products

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he proposes to take any steps to have sperm whale oil eliminated from products used by the Services and his Department.

    I am glad to be able to report substantial progress on this question. I have set in hand measures to remove sperm whale oil and sperm whale oil derivatives entirely from lubricants used by the Ministry of Defence; and by the end of this year no sperm whale oil will be used by the Ministry of Defence in this field.Following consultations with all the major suppliers of leather to the Ministry's manufacturers of leather goods, the use of the oil has also been excluded from a large number of leather items used by the Services; and in the few cases where such exclusion has not yet been possible, I have set in hand a testing programme with a view to establishing whether leather can be produced without the use of sperm whale oil and still reach acceptable standards. General guidance is also being issued to all procurement divisions of the Department.In all cases the exclusion of sperm whale oil is being achieved at no cost penalty to the defence budget; nor will the operational effectiveness of the Services be in any way impaired.

    National Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what comparable industrialised countries currently have a form of military national service for young people; what numbers are involved; and what forms such service takes.

    As far as NATO nations are concerned, Belgium, Denmark, France, the Federal German Republic, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal and Turkey have forms of conscription. The proportion of conscripts to their total armed forces ranges from 30 per cent. to 90 per cent. and the period of conscripted service varies between eight and 30 months.

    Procurement Policy

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether the Government agree with the recommendation of the European Parliament that a programme of common defence procurement should form part of the EEC's industrial policy; and whether he will make a statement on the Government's policy towards the proposal.

    The Government regard defence procurement as a matter for the Independent European Programme Group, which is the main European forum for discussion on equipment matters.

    ExpenditureEstimate
    Body1976–771978–79
    ££
    Attendance Allowance Board102,938113,000
    Northern Ireland Central Services Agency for the Health and Social Services1,382,3441,715,000
    Distinction Awards Committee8881,000
    Health and Social Services Boards219,170,446253,257,694
    Local Tribunals (including Appeals Tribunals)34,28140,000
    Mental Health Review Tribunal1,2902,300
    Northern Ireland Staff Council for the Health and Social Services334,136465,000
    Northern Ireland Council for Nurses and Midwives1,430,0801,815,000
    Supplementary Benefits Commission3,5164,000

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what has been the total cost, including all main constituent costs such as expenditure on their own programmes, wages, rent, heating, lighting and maintenance, &c., for the last 12 months for which figures are available of running the following bodies: the appeal tribunals, the compensation appeals tribunals, the Compensation Tribunal (Loss of Employment Through Civil Unrest), the Criminal Legal Aid Taxation Panel,

    BodyCost for 1976–77Projected cost for 1978–79
    1. Appeal TribunalsThis figure is not separately identifiable from the figure for local Tribunals.
    2. Compensation Appeals Tribunals£502£200
    3. Compensation Tribunal (loss of Employment through Civil unrest)£34,428£25,000
    4. Criminal Legal Aid Taxation Panel£818,852£1,218,000

    Northern Ireland

    Public Bodies (Running Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what has been the total cost, including all main constituent costs such as expenditure on their own programmes, wages, rent, heating, lighting, and maintenance, &c., for the last 12 months for which figures are available, of running the following bodies: the Attendance Allowance Board, the Central Services Agency for Health and Social Services, the Distinction Awards Committee, the health and social services boards, the local tribunals, the Mental Health Review Tribunal, the Northern Ireland Staff Council for Health and Social Services, the Northern Ireland Council for Nurses and Midwives, and the Supplementary Benefits Commission, respectively; and what are the projected costs for each body for 1978–79.

    The information is as follows:the Extra-Statutory Compensation Tribunal under the Criminal Injuries Act (Northern Ireland) 1956 to 1970, the Legal Aid Certifying Committee, the Legal Aid Committee, the Police Authority for Northern Ireland, and the Standing Advisory Commission on Human Rights, respectively; and what are the projected costs for each body for 1978–79.

    5. Extra-Statutory Compensation Tribunal under the Criminal injuries Act (N.I.) 1956–70£1,255£355
    6. and 7 Legal Aid Certifying Committee and Legal Aid Committee£190,213£340,000
    8. Police Authority for N.I.£62,178,310£85,705,000
    9. SACHR£50,000£55,000

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what has been the total cost, including all main constituent costs such as expenditure on their own programmes, wages, rent, heating, lighting and maintenance, &c., for the last 12 months for which figures are available, of running the following bodies: the Planning Appeals Commission, the Local Government Staff Commission for Northern Ireland, the staff commission for

    BodyCost for 1976–77Projected cost for 1978–79
    ££
    1. Planning Appeals Commission120,321158,500
    2. Local Government Staff Commission for Northern Ireland5,8897,000
    3. Staff Commission for Education and Library Boards44,46042,000
    4. Sports Council for Northern Ireland405,637551,000
    5. Negotiating Committee on Teachers Salaries and Conditions of Service1,0002,000
    6. Warrenpoint Harbour Authority292,362592,000
    7. Education and Library Boards106,808,729134,500,000

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what has been the total cost, including all main constituent costs such as expenditure on their own programmes, wages, rent, heating, lighting and maintenance, etc., for the last 12 months for which figures are available, of running the following bodies: Ulster Sheltered Employment Ltd., the Wages Coun-

    BodyCost for 1976–77Projected cost for 1978–79
    ££
    1. Ulster Sheltered Employment Ltd.95,000145,000
    2. The Wages Councils1,5902,000
    3. The Northern Ireland Industrial Tribunals15,91441,500
    4. Enterprise Ulster8,166,6009,611,000
    5. Local Enterprise Development Unit2,453,9523,350,000
    6. Northern Ireland Consumer Council1,60615,000
    7. Northern Ireland Electricity Consumer Council20,50026,000

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what has been the total cost, including all main constituent costs such as expenditure on their own programmes, wages, rent, heating, lighting and maintenance, etc., for the last 12 months for which figures are available, of

    education and library boards, the Sports Council for Northern Ireland, the Negotiating Committee on Teachers' Salaries and Conditions of Service, the Warrenport Harbour Authority, and the education and library boards, respectively; and what are the projected costs for each body for 1978–79.

    The information is as follows:cil, the Northern Ireland Industrial Tribunals, Enterprise Ulster, the Local Enterprise Development Unit, the Northern Ireland Consumer Council, and the Northern Ireland Electricity Consumers' Council, respectively; and what are the projected costs for each body for 1978–79.

    The information is as follows:running the following bodies: the Agricultural Wages Board, the Livestock Marketing Commission, the Northern Ireland Agricultural Trust, the Northern Ireland Fishery Harbour Authority, the Pigs Marketing Board, the Pigs Marketing (Investment) Board, the Seed Potato Marketing Board for Northern Ireland, and the Fish- eries Conservancy Board, respectively; and what are the projected costs for each body for 1978–79.

    BodyPeriodCost
    £
    Agricultural Wages BoardApril 1977 to 31st March 197825,743·64Estimate for 1978–79 £25–26,000
    Livestock Marketing CommissionOctober 1976 to September 1977183,016Estimate for 1978–79 £231,000
    Northern Ireland Agricultural TrustApril 1976 to 31st March 1977264,891Estimate for 1978–79 £400,000
    Northern Ireland Fishery Harbour AuthorityApril 1976 to 31st March 197787,395Estimate for 1978–79 £131,600
    Pigs Marketing Board1977714,729*Estimate for 1978 £730,000
    Pigs Marketing Board (Investments) Ltd.197753,771*Estimate for 1978 £60,550
    Fisheries Conservancy Board1977170,450Estimate for 1978 £205,819
    Seed Potato Marketing BoardJuly 1976 to 30th June 1977114,616Estimate for 1978 £200,000
    * Includes trading expenses.

    Midwives

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many community midwives are employed by each area board in Northern Ireland.

    The numbers of community-based midwives—whole-time equivalents—at 31st March 1978 were:

    Eastern Health and Social Services Board:
    Midwives26
    District Nurse/Midwives74
    100

    The information is as follows:

    Northern Health and Social Services Board:
    District Nurse/Midwives113
    113
    Southern Health and Social Services Board:
    Midwives15
    District Nurse/Midwives43
    58
    Western Health and Social Services Board:
    Midwives69
    District Nurse/Midwives5
    74
    Total345