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Written Answers

Volume 954: debated on Thursday 20 July 1978

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 20th July 1978

Energy

Offshore Supply Contract Work

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what proportion of the United Kingdom share of 62 per cent. of offshore supply contract work went to industry in Scotland in 1977.

I regret that separate figures are not available for particular areas of the United Kingdom, including Scotland.

Gas Gathering Pipelines (North Sea) Limited

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he expects the final report of Gas Gathering Pipelines (North Sea) Limited to be published; and whether he will make a statement.

An edited version of the final report of Gas Gathering Pipelines (North Sea) Limited (GGP), safeguarding confidential information given by the licensees, is to be published today as an Energy paper. Copies have been made available to the Library of the House. I should like to thank the board, staff and parent companies of GGP for the valuable work they have put into their final report, and the operators of the fields concerned for their co-operation in providing information and advice to GGP.The report concludes that considerably more natural gas could become available for collection from the United Kingdom sector of the northern North Sea but recommends that at this stage no gas-gathering system, requiring the construction of a new trunk pipeline to the shore, is necessary. GGP concluded that available gas arising before 1990 from oilfield production could be accommodated in the existing pipelines and that thereafter those pipelines could have substantial spare capacity. However, the capacity of the existing pipelines would be unlikely to be sufficient if they had to carry more Norwegian gas, or if large additional sources of gas were discovered and developed in the United Kingdom sector, or if for other reasons spare capacity in the Frigg lines could not be made available.

There is a significant chance of one of these possibilities and a close watch will need to be kept on the situation as it develops. Further careful appraisal of these matters will therefore be required and I have considered whether to request GGP to assist me in this task. However, while the other licensees have provided their full co-operation to GGP over the past 15 months, I do not think I could ask it to continue to provide its highly confidential licence information to an organisation containing some of its competitors. I have therefore informed GGP that I do not expect to make further requests for its corporate advice. Some of the parent companies, of course, have key roles to play in any likely developments on gas gathering, and I shall continue to look to them for information and advice, but it is up to them to decide whether to give that advice individually or jointly.

On the heavier gases, GGP has concluded that on present information ethane supplies surplus to that purchased by British Gas for its supply network will not build up to adequate levels to support another ethylene plant in addition to that proposed to be built at Moss Morran until the early 1990s, but here again there is uncertainy about the timing of supplies. Flexibiilty in the amounts of ethane purchased by British Gas and the use of liquid petroleum gases could mean that sufficient feedstocks will be available from the mid-1980s. The Government wish to see these opportunities for petrochemical development pursued vigorously.

In the Brent area, as was reported in my right hon. Friend's answer to the hon. Member for Ormskirk (Mr. Kilroy-Silk) on 17th April, Shell/Esso has applied for my authorisation for a gas pipeline between the Cormorant and Brent gas-fields. I am glad to be able to announce that Shell/Esso and the licensees of the Heather, Ninian and NW Hutton fields have reached sufficient agreement on the methods of financing for Shell/Esso to be able to assure me that, subject to my authorisation pursuant to section 20 of the Petroleum and Submarine Pipe-lines Act and any other necessary consents, it is ready to construct that pipeline with the necessary links to which feeders from those other fields can later be connected.

Further south, larger volumes of associated gas are expected to arise, but are unlikely to require collection until about 1984. To enable that gas to be collected from that date, a decision on the organisation to plan the collection of this gas may be needed next year to allow time for planning and constructing the necessary pipelines. I have already initiated consultation with some of the parties most involved in possible action resulting from the conclusions of the report and I shall continue to keep in close touch with the Norwegian authorities. However, the matters considered in the report affect a wide range of interested bodies, whose advice I would welcome. In view of the possible timetable I have just described, I invite all interested parties to let me have their comments on the report by the end of the year.

Bristol Gas Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the extent of the current public liability of the British Gas Corporation for meeting insurance claims in the event of a catastrophe directly attributable to their trans-shipment, storage, piping or processing of liquefied gas; and if he will make a statement.

I am advised that there is no limit to the damages which the courts could award in respect of claims for which the Corporation was legally liable, and that the Corporation's insurance arrangements provide an extremely high level of cover.

Gas And Electricity Disconnections

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many consumers of (a) gas and (b) electricity were disconnected for nonpayment of accounts during each of the past eight quarters for which figures are available indicating, where possible, the numbers who were domestic consumers.

Disconnections of gas and electricity consumers for nonpayment of accounts during the past eight quarters were as follows:

Quarter ended

Gas

Electricity

30th June 19769,642*31,941†
30th September 197613,574*33,534†
31st December 19769,408*24,873†
31st March 19776,327*13,593†
30th June 1977
Domestic9,83523,961†
Non-Domestic100
30th September 1977
Domestic13,48028,509†
Non-Domestic137
31st December 1977
Domestic9,69417,587†
Non-Domestic155
31st March 1978
Domestic7,37518,008†
Non-Domestic105

* Total Disconnections—separate figures for domestic and non-domestic not available.

† Domestic consumers only—separate figures for non-domestic consumers not available.

Oil Production Licences

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement about progress on the award of fifth round petroleum production licences.

pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 23rd November 1977; Vol. 939, cols. 767–8], gave the following further information:I am now able to announce the following confirmation of award:

  • BNOC
  • Chevron Petroleum Company Limited
  • Imperial Chemical Industries Limited
  • Murphy Petroleum Limited
  • Ocean Exploration Co. Limited
  • Hispanoil (UK) Limited

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Home Department

Illegal Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the nature and use of the powers in the Immigration Act 1971 governing the detention and removal from the United Kingdom of illegal entrants; and if he will make a statement.

I shall continue to deal firmly with illegal entrants. They represent a real threat to good community relations, a serious abuse of our immigration laws, and an affront to those (mainly dependants) who may have had to wait a considerable time overseas to come here lawfully.The Immigration Act 1971 vests the administrative power to detain and remove someone who is found to be an illegal entrant in the Immigration Service (as opposed to the power vested in the courts and the Secretary of State to recommend and order the deportation of someone convicted of a criminal offence). These powers have been exercised on an increasing scale in recent years; the number removed annually under these powers rose from 139 in 1974 to 496 in 1977; and on 31st May 1978 the number detained solely under these administrative powers, pending the giving of directions for their removal, was 80. I attribute this to two factors: a series of judgments in the courts which have declared these powers to be applicable in a wider range of circumstances than was previously thought; and an increase in the scale and effectiveness of enforcement action.I have had representations from a number of organisations and individuals, including hon. Members, that the wider use of these powers to detain and remove illegal entrants has created anxiety in the immigrant community. Suggestions have been put to me that, particularly in view of the fact that the right of appeal against the exercise of these powers may only be exercised from overseas after removal, I should restrict their use.I have given these suggestions careful consideration since, although the present powers were enacted when the main problem was seen as clandestine entry, they are now increasingly affecting those who gained leave to enter by deception as to their identity or entitlement. I see no difference of principle, but in any future legislation I should wish to examine afresh the best means of combining effective enforcement with statutory review procedures.In the meantime, I am not prepared to dispense with the use of the existing powers, nor to resort to less effective or less appropriate alternatives (such as exclusive reliance on prosecutions, or on the Home Secretary's power to order someone's deportation on the grounds that this would be conducive to the public good). However, I accept that the exercise of these necessarily wide powers should continue to be tempered with discretion and that their limits should be clearly understood. The Immigration Service does not detain, still less remove, someone merely on suspicion but only when there are sufficient grounds to conclude that he is an illegal entrant.Someone so detained will be released temporarily whenever the risk of absconding is not high. Currently, about 20 per cent. of those detained are given temporary admission. No one is detained longer than absolutely necessary to enable his representations, or further evidence, to be properly investigated, and for removal arrangements to be made. I know of no case where someone removed under these powers has been found in a subsequent appeal to have been lawfully settled here after all.None the less, I think it right that these wide powers should be exercised only under close Ministerial supervision. It would not be practicable for Ministers to give prior authority for the exercise of these powers personally in every case, but I have made arrangements under which Ministers are informed rapidly of every exercise of the power of detention of an illegal entrant, and for all cases of illegal entrants detained pending removal to be monitored each week by a Home Office Minister. Last year, 81 people found to be illegal entrants were none the less allowed to stay.There are, moreover, certain circumstances in which I have thought it right that removal should not take place save on a Minister's personal authority. These already include illegal entrants with a spouse or children in this country, and unsuccessful amnesty applicants. And now, in response to many representations I have had, they will also include cases where a Commonwealth or Pakistan citizen cam' here illegally before 1973, and so might have qualified under the present amnesty arrangements, but subsequently left the country and re-entered illegally, typically by deception as to entitlement, on or after 1st January 1973.As to the general position regarding the amnesty, I announced on 29th November 1977 that when the amnesty arrangements draw to a close at the end of this year (and there can be no question of widening, or extending the life of the present amnesty arrangements) those who would have qualified under them, had they applied in time, will likewise be removed only on the personal authorisation of a Minister.I intend to keep the exercise of the powers of detention and removal of illegal entrants under close and continuing scrutiny. Members of the immigrant communities, lawfully settled here, and those who represent them, who, I know, understand the view that illegal entry must be dealt with in the interests of good community relations, need have no anxiety that these powers will be exercised arbitrarily, or without regard for humanitarian and compassionate considerations.

Criminal Interrogation (Guidance)

55.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will issue further notes for guidance in criminal interrogation, to require the presence of witnesses or some other form of verification of verbal statements alleged to have been made by accused persons.

The Judges' Rules and Administrative Directions to the police, which give guidance on the questioning of witnesses and suspects, were re-issued on 23rd June; copies were placed in the Library. I have no plans to issue any further guidance on these matters in advance of the recommendations of the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure, within whose terms of reference they fall.

Electronic Traffic Analysers

56.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, further to the reply to the hon. Member for Richmond on 13th July, how many of the three portable electronic traffic analysers operating in the West London area are in use in the Richmond constituency; and where they are currently in use.

One portable electronic traffic analyser (PETA) operates in the Richmond constituency. It is used as required on roads with a bad accident record or where the Metropolitan Police have received complaints of speeding.

Interpol

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what safeguards exist to ensure that any information supplied to Interpol from British police records is not passed on to private agencies or the secret police agencies of foreign governments.

It is for the British police to decide whether it is proper for them to supply such information through Interpol channels in accordance with the aims of the organisation to promote mutual assistance between criminal police authorities. Once they have done so, responsibility for the use and security of the information rests with the police authorities who receive it.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the reason for any request for information from British police records by Interpol is required before that information is supplied.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what grounds information about individuals not suspected of criminal activity or any involvement with individuals suspected of criminal activity may be supplied to Interpol from British police records.

No information of the kind referred to in the Question is provided except where assistance is requested in cases of missing persons, persons found dead or for other humanitarian reasons.

Crown Courts (Acquittals)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will set out the percentage of acquittals in criminal trials in the Crown court in each of the last five years.

The available information is as follows; figures for 1977 are not yet available.

PROPORTION OF PERSONS FOR TRIAL (1) WHO WERE ACQUITTED(2) IN THE CROWN COURT
England and WalesPercentage
197217
197318
197417
197517
197617
(1) including those who pleaded guilty.
(2) including those whose trial did not reach a jury verdict.

Crown Courts ("Not Guilty" Pleas)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what percentage of persons committed for trial in the Crown court in Nottingham, Derby, Leicester, Coventry and Birmingham, respectively, has pleaded not guilty and been tried by jury in each of the last five years; and what percentage of those persons has been acquitted.

The information requested could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. Figures are available only for the Crown court in England and Wales as a whole; in 1976, 31 per cent. of persons tried at the Crown court pleaded not guilty and 47 per cent. of these were acquitted.

King Hussein Of Jordan

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what special arrangements are made in connection with the entry of His Majesty King Hussein of Jordan into the United Kingdom.

His Majesty King Hussein receives all the courtesies due to the head of a friendly foreign Government and is entitled to certain exemptions from immigration control.

Mr Mohsen Berenchi

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when and for what purposes Mr. Mohsen Berenchi and his sister Farzaneh, Iranian citizens, were allowed to enter and settle in Great Britain.

Mr. Berenchi entered the United Kingdom on 11th September 1976 and received permission to stay as a student until 21st April last. An application from him for a further extension on the same grounds is under consideration. No record of the admission of Mr. Berenchi's sister has been traced so far.

Advisory Council On The Penal System

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what other public bodies each member of the Advisory Council on the Penal System serves.

I do not maintain comprehensive information of this kind and would not feel justified in specially seeking it: but my hon. Friend may find the following readily available information of assistance:

Baroness Serota: Chairman, Commission for Local Administration; Governor of the British Broadcasting Corporation; member of the Policy Advisory Committee on Sexual Offences.

Professor Sir Arthur Armitage: Chairman of the Advisory Committee on the Training and Supply of Teachers.

Mr. Derek Gladwin: Member of the English Tourist Board, Post Office Board and Board of British Aerospace.

Mr. Hugh Sanders: Member of the Police Complaints Board.

Sir George Waller: Chairman of the Policy Advisory Committee on Sexual Offences, member of the Criminal Law Revision Committee.

Vehicle Licensing

asked the Secreary of State for the Home Department how many people were convicted of having motor vehicles without a properly paid up excise licence during the years 1975, 1976 and 1977 or in the three latest available years.

The number of persons convicted of non-payment of revenue relating to a motor vehicle licence, when that was their principal offence, is shown in the annual publication "Criminal Statistics". The total number of findings of guilt for these offences, including cases where this was not the principal offence, is shown in the annual publication "Offences relating to motor vehicles". The editions of these publications giving figures for 1977 are not yet available.

Kirkham Open Prison

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will order a public inquiry into the future allocation of selected long-term prisoners to Kirkham open prison.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what consultation has taken place between his Department and people living in the Kirkham area about the future allocation of selected long-term prisoners to Kirkham open prison.

The proposal to allocate a small number of selected long-term prisoners to Kirkham prison was discussed with representatives of local authorities in the area on 14th January and 5th April 1977. Local representatives unanimously agreed the proposal after further discussion with officials on 5th May 1978.

Metropolitan Police (Establishment)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department for what reasons adjustments were made to the establishment of the Metropolitan Police after 1965; and what specific factors were taken into account on each adjustment.

The establishment of a force of the size and complexity of the Metropolitan Police is constantly changing. An exposition of all the detailed adjustments which have taken place since 1965 would involve disproportionate cost.As I indicated in my reply to the Question the hon. Member asked on 6th July, the force establishment has been increased by 978 since 1965. The main adjustments have been confined to divisional complements such as the increase of 208 during 1967 when CID units were increased and crime prevention officers established, and the increase of 573 in 1974 when the force assumed responsibility for the policing of London Airport.

Custody And Wardship Orders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress he is making towards the international enforcement of custody and wardship orders.

The draft Convention being prepared by a committee of experts in the Council of Europe will be further discussed at a meeting next September. The question of child kidnapping has been placed on the agenda for a future meeting of the Hague conference on private international law.

Snatched Children

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what consideration he has given to providing wider powers to the police to trace snatched children, in the light of the statement in the House, Official Report, 23rd March, c. 1845, by the hon. Member for Halifax (Dr. Summerskill).

I have confirmed with the Department of Health and Social Security that information from social security records is available to the police not only for criminal investigations but also to assist in tracing a missing child. A circular will be issued to chief officers of police shortly to draw attention to this facility.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions he has had on the possibility of providing local education authorities with descriptions of children who have been snatched.

I have made some inquiries as to this possibility but have concluded that since there are some 20,000 schools, it would not be a practicable way of tracing snatched children.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what discussions he has had to ensure that local social security officers have clear instructions that they may make an exception to the normal rules of confidentiality to help parents, guardians, courts or the police when they ask for the address of a snatched child.

I understand from my right hon. Friend the Minister for Social Security that social security officers will give what assistance they can in appropriate cases, and that there are standing instructions to this effect.

Telephone Tapping

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement about telephone tapping.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to a Question by the hon. Member for Macclesfield (Mr. Winterton) on 5th December 1977.—[Vol. 940, c. 482–3.]

Animals (Experiments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether any experiments under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 were performed on living animals in British zoos during 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978 to the latest available date; and, if so, at which zoos.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what species of living animals were used in LD 50 experiments performed under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 during 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978 to the latest available date; and on what date the Advisory Committee's report of the LD 50 test will be published.

Information is not available about the species of animals used in experiments of this type for the years 1975 and 1976. Statistics of acute toxicity experiments of all kinds performed in 1977 will be published within the next few months. We expect to receive the advisory committee's report later this year and will arrange for it to be published as soon as possible thereafter.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what date he will publish the Return of Experiments on Living Animals, performed in Great Britain under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 during 1977.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many experiments under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 have been performed on living animals since the last Royal Commission on Vivisection reported in 1912.

In the years 1913–76 inclusive, 131 million. Figures for 1977 will be published within the next few months.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether any living animals were used in motor accident research in experiments performed under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876 during 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978 to the latest available date; and, if so, what species were used in these experiments.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many commercial laboratories are registered to perform experiments on living animals under the Cruelty to Animals Act 1876.

Police (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now correct the reply to a supplementary question to the hon. Member for Swindon concerning police pay, Official Report, 17th July, column 41.

I am sorry that the figures I gave related to a constable in the provinces, rather than in London. From 1st September 1978, a constable in London with 15 years' service will be getting £5,453 a year in basic pay and London allowances. If he is not provided with free accommodation, he will also receive a tax-free allowance of up to £1,172 a year, which represents £1,775 grossed up. Average overtime earnings, at the present level of overtime, would amount to £1,538. Grossed up, his earnings including overtime would amount to £8,766 a year.

Immigration (Select Committee Report)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the Government will respond formally to the report on immigration of the Select Committee on Race Relations and Immigration.

The Government's observations on the Select Committee's report are published today as a White Paper.

Identification Parades

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has now prepared new guidance to the police on the conduct of identification parades as recommended by the Devlin Committee.

Yes, and it is being issued today. Copies are available in the Vote Office and have been placed in the Libraries of both Houses.

Education And Science

Schools (Inspectors' Reports)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if her Department has received a survey by her inspectorate on bad schools; and if she will list the schools that the inspectors criticised.

As I stated in a reply to a Question by my hon. Friend the Member for Eton and Slough (Miss Lestor) on 13th July, there never has been any draft report or anything resembling such a draft. To assist me to consider how good practices might be encouraged in comprehensive schools, Her Majesty's inspectorate provided me in January 1977, as part of its normal internal business with my Department and not as a formal survey intended to lead to publication, with illustrations of the factors which make for success, or create problems, in the development and running of comprehensive schools. Neither my Department nor Her Majesty's inspectorate discloses the names of schools considered in internal exercises of this kind. Nor does Her Majesty's inspectorate disclose the names of schools referred to in reports issued for general publication. However, it is Her Majesty's inspectors' policy to inform any education establishment and, where necessary, the authority concerned of strengths and weaknesses observed during an inspection visit.

Nursery Schools (Essex)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will publish in the Official Report details of expenditure on nursery school accommodation in the county of Essex compared with the rest of the United Kingdom.

From 1974–75 to 1976–77 £153,000 was spent on nursery education in Essex, providing the equivalent of 210 full time places. Over the same period about 41,000 full-time places were provided in England and Wales, at a total cost of £35 millions.

Secondary Education (Rossendale)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress has been made in discussions with the Lancashire Education Authority concerning secondary education in Rossendale; and if she will make a statement.

I recently met representatives of the Lancashire education authority to discuss the progress of secondary reorganisation in the county, including Rossendale. As a result of that meeting there are to be discussions between officials of my Department and the authority on the details of a sixth form college scheme in Rossendale, with a view to the early submission of section 13 proposals.

Secondary School Building (Macclesfield)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the total sum allocated to secondary school building in the Macclesfield parliamentary constituency in each of the last five years.

My Department does not maintain records of school building allocations by reference to parliamentary constituencies. Nevertheless, our records show that the total value of major building projects started at secondary schools in the Macclesfield district of Cheshire, which is almost conterminal with the constituency, in each of the last five financial years was as follows:

£
1973–74408,000
1974–75965,000
1975–76129,000
1976–77872,000
1977–78944,000
In addition, minor building projects may have been started, but these cannot be identified.In the current financial year the authority is not expected to use any of its block allocation for major projects at secondary schools in the Macclesfield district, but a sum of about £170,000 has been allocated from the special programme to assist reorganisation.

Nursery Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what is the total sum allocated to the Congleton borough council for nursery projects under the urban aid programme for the year 1978–79; how many full-time places will be provided; and where the classes will be located;(2) what is the total sum allocated to the Macclesfield borough council for nursery projects under the urban aid programme for the year 1978–79; how many full-time places will be provided; and where the classes will be located.

Under urban programme arrangements local authorities are invited to submit grant applications only in respect of the services for which they are responsible. The Congleton and Macclesfield borough councils are not therefore eligible to apply for nursery education projects. The Cheshire local education authority have not submitted nursery education projects in these two areas for the urban programme for 1978–79.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the total sum allocated to the Cheshire county council under the nursery building programme for the year 1976–79; how many full-time places will be provided; and where the classes will be located.

Cheshire county council received an allocation of £10,900 under the 1978–79 nursery building programme. It proposes using this as loan sanction for the remaining capital costs of a nursery unit at the Dallam County Primary School, Warrington, which it intends to provide mainly with the aid of a grant under the urban aid programme. The project will provide 30 full-time places by adaptation.

Genetic Manipulation

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much public money has been made avail- able for the furtherance of research into the techniques of genetic manipulation during the last two complete years; and at what centres this work is being carried out.

Little research using the techniques of genetic manipulation was carried out in the financial year 1976–77, but it is estimated that about £500,000 of public money was made available for such work in the financial year 1977–78. How much of this was for the furtherance of research into the techniques of genetic manipulation rather than their use cannot readily be determined. The centres where this work was being carried out are those listed in the "First Report Of The Genetic Manipulation Advisory Group" (Cmnd. 7215) and the University of Warwick.

School Building (Norfolk)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how much was spent on secondary school building in the Norfolk, North-West parliamentary constituency in each of the past five years.

Lip-Reading

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she intends to write the honourable Member for Stoke-on-Trent, South about lip-reading provision throughout Great Britain as promised in an earlier Answer.

The preparation of a full reply is taking rather longer than I anticipated, but I will write to my hon. Friend as soon as the necessary material is to hand.

Recreation

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in view of the need for greater recreational facilities for children in out-of-school hours, particularly in inner city areas, she will initiate discussions with local education authorities in such areas for the purposes of making greater use of school playgrounds, playing fields, and premises, and giving greater discretion to head teachers to make the most suitable arrangements for their particular locations.

Local education authorities are already well aware of my Department's long-standing policy to encourage the wider use of educational premises and the scope for extending recreational and community facilities in this way has been emphasised in discussion with the inner city partnership authorities. Particular arrangements in response to local needs are often made on the initiative of head teachers.

Computerisation

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what is the total expenditure to date by her Department on computerisation of information for science and the research, capital and preparatory costs for this;(2) what is the total expenditure to date by her Department on on-line computerisation of information for science and the research, capital and preparatory costs for this.

Complete information in the form requested is not available. The total amount made available for research relating to computer-based information systems and services by the British Library's research and development division, and previously by the Department's office for scientific and technical information, during the period 19–1978 was £1,935,000. Of this sum £772,000 was for on-line projects. There has also been expenditure in this field by the research councils and the Natural History Museum.

Information Research (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she intends publishing an account of the grants paid by the office for scientific and technical information for 1970 to 1975 and its successor, the British Library research and development department; and why this updating has not been published, in the light of the fact that it has prevented experts in the field from assessing the value of the Department's expenditure which is practically the only source of public funds for research in information in Great Britain.

As my right hon. Friend told my hon. Friend in a letter dated 21st January 1978, a list of these grants was made publicly available in 1976, free on demand. It has been issued to all who have asked for it.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations she has received about the lack of public accountability of part of her Department, due to the delay in publishing an account of the grants paid by the Office for Scientific and Technical Information and the British Library research and development department.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Pig Industry

11.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the level of returns being achieved by all sectors of the pig industry.

Higher pig prices and lower feed costs in the first half of the year mean that pig producers' returns have been much better than in 1977. Recent cuts in MCAs have helped to improve the curing industry's competitive position.

High-Protein Wheat

13.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what developments there have been in obtaining easier access to the Community of high-protein wheat for bread making.

We will continue to seek a reduction in the support levels for Community wheat in order to narrow the gap between Community and world prices. This would enable strong wheat to enter the Community at lower prices than it can at present.

Fish Stocks (Conservation)

14.

asked the Minister of Agrictulture, Fisheries and Food what further action he proposes to take in order to preserve fish stocks in British waters.

19.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further measures for conservation of fish stocks he intends to introduce under the Hague Agreement.

I refer the hon. Members to the reply given to my hon. Friend, the Member for Dudley, West (Dr. Phipps) on 3rd July 1978.

Trees

12.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of the United Kingdom is covered with trees.

The total area of woodland in the United Kingdom is estimated at just over 2 million hectares. This represents approximately 8·5 per cent. of the land area.

Milk Marketing Board

15.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to meet the chairman of the Milk Marketing Board.

I shall be meeting the chairman of the Milk Marketing Board on 26th July.

Land (Nationalisation)

16.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what reply he has made to the demand from the National Union of Agricultural Workers for nationalisation of agricultural land.

We are aware of the union's policy on the nationalisation of agricultural land.

Sheep Industry

17.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the present state of the sheep industry; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. The increase in the breeding flock last year indicates producers' confidence in the sheep industry.

National Farmers' Union

20.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects next to meet the president of the National Farmers' Union.

23.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects next to meet the president of the National Farmers' Union.

I meet the president of the National Farmers' Union frequently, but at present I have no specific plans for a meeting.

48.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he last met representatives of the National Farmers' Union.

Marginal Land

18.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to announce his conclusions following the study of the problems of farmers of marginal land; and if he will make a statement.

European Community Ministers

21.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he will attend next a meeting of the Council of Agriculture Ministers of the EEC.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given earlier today to my hon. Friend, the Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. Canavan).

29.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he will attend next a meeting of the Council of Fisheries Ministers of the EEC.

The next meeting of the Council of Fisheries Ministers will be on 24th July 1978.

Food And Drink Industries Council

22.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he plans next to meet representatives of the Food and Drink Industries Council.

Dairy Trades Federation

24.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has any plans to meet the president of the Dairy Trades Federation.

I shall be meeting the president of the Dairy Trades Federation on 26th July.

Manioc Root

25.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking in the Council of Ministers to ensure that imports of manioc root into the EEC are subject, like other feedstuff imports, to a levy.

European Community Food Legislation

26.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has concerning the future programme of the European Commission proposing the harmonisation of food legislation.

The Commission has recently indicated those proposals on which work is expected in the near future. I will arrange for the list of those proposals to be given in the Official Report.

Animals (Export)

28.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to conclude his consultations in regard to his Department's report "The Export Trade in Live Animals for Slaughter and Further Fattening"; and if he will make a statement.

46.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to conclude his consultations on the future of the export trade in live animals for slaughter and further fattening; and if he will make a statement.

I refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Member to the reply given earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mr. Corbett).

Production And Processing Methods

27.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he took into account the research into new production and processing methods being undertaken in various sectors of the industry when drawing up the White Paper "Food from Our Own Resources".

Current research and development information was taken into account during the preparation of the original White Paper, and up-to-date information is also being taken fully into account in the current review of "Food from Our Own Resources".

School Milk (Subsidy)

30.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has received any representations from dairy farmers about the EEC subsidy for school milk.

Whilst we have not received any formal representations from dairy farmers on this subject, I know that many deplore the decision of several local education authorities to reject the Government's offer of extra school milk which, if taken up throughout the United Kingdom, would increase milk consumption by approximately 175 million pints in a full year.

Whales

31.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps were taken at the International Whaling Commission to prevent the continued slaughter of whales; and if he will make a statement.

The 30th annual meeting of the International Whaling Commission was held in London from 26th to 30th June. The Commission agreed to recommend a reduction in all the existing catch quotas, except that for the North Pacific sperm whale stock, which will be considered again at a special meeting later this year. There is already a ban on catching the less abundant whale species, and controls based on stock levels regulate the taking of the other species. No whales may be taken within the United Kingdom's 200-mile fishing limit.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make a statement on the outcome of the International Whaling Conference; and whether he will initiate talks with other nations who import sperm whale oil for industrial purposes about the need to ban its use in order to conserve the species.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the hon. Member for the Isle of Wight (Mr. Ross) earlier today. The Government consider the IWC to be the best forum for the international discussion of all whaling matters.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the outcome of the International Whaling Conference, in the light of the representations on the use of the jojoba plant oil as a substitute for sperm whale oil.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given earlier today to the hon. Member for Isle of Wight (Mr. Ross). There was no discussion on the use of substitutes for sperm whale oil at the thirtieth annual meeting of the International Whaling Commission.

British Trawler Federation

32.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has plans to meet representatives of the British Trawler Federation.

My right hon. Friend expects to meet all catchers' organisations in the course of the next meeting of the Council of Ministers.

Green Pound

34.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the current differential between the market rate of the £ sterling and the green pound.

The differential is 28·1 or 38·5 per cent. according to the sector concerned.

Milk And Milk Products

36.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the steps taken by the Council of Ministers to increase consumption of milk and milk products throughout the EEC.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given earlier today to the hon. Member for Newbury (Mr. McNair-Wilson).

Commissioner Gundelach

33.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he will meet next Commissioner Gundelach of the EEC Commission.

35.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he will meet Commissioner Gundelach of the EEC Commission.

40.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he intends next to meet Commissioner Gundelach.

I refer the hon. Members to the reply given earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for West Stirlingshire (Mr. Canavan).

"Food From Our Own Resources"

37.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he now expects to publish his updated version of "Food from Our Own Resources".

47.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is his latest assessment of the date when he will publish his updated version of "Food from Our Own Resources".

I hope that it will be possible to publish the conclusions of the review of "Food from Our Own Resources" in the autumn.

Farmers' Unions

38.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to meet the presidents of the farmers' unions.

I have nothing to add to the reply given earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Melton (Mr. Latham) and the hon. Member for Harrogate (Mr. Banks).

Common Agricultural Policy

39.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the latest annual cost of the operation of the common agricultural policy to the EEC and the United Kingdom.

Provisions for the European Agricultural Guarantee and Guidance Fund, in the Communities' 1978 Budget totalled 9118·75 million units of account (£5,959·97 million converted at 1·53ua=£1). It is estimated that the United Kingdom share of the 1978 Budget will be about 15 per cent.

43.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action he is taking to accelerate the reform of the common agricultural policy.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given earlier today to the hon. Member for Banbury (Mr. Marten).

Pig Producers

41.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the current position of pig producers.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given earlier today to the hon. Member for Stroud (Mr. Kershaw).

Simmordsia Trees

42.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proposals he has for the experimental planting of simmordsia trees with the possibility of the oil they produce being used commercially; and if he will make a statement.

I am advised that Simmondsia chinensis (jojoba) is a semitropical shrub of arid lands and a native of southern USA. It could not be grown commercially in this country because of its susceptibility to frost.

Sheepmeat

44.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has received about the EEC's proposals for a European sheep-meat regime.

I have received representations from a wide range of interests expressing concern about the future of New Zealand lamb imports and related import infrastructure, prices consumers might have to pay, support for producers' returns and export opportunities. As I have repeatedly said, whatever Community sheepmeat arrangements are agreed must protect the interests of United Kingdom producers and consumers and safeguard New Zealand supplies.

52.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further discussions he has had with the Council of Ministers and the European Commission in respect of a common sheepmeat regime; and if he will make a statement.

As there has been no further debate on sheepmeat in the Council of Agriculture Ministers since 19th June, I have nothing to add to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Ladywood (Mr. Sever) on on 21st June, except to report that technical discussions are taking place.—[Vol. 952, c. 198.]

Monetary Compensatory Amounts

45.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the progress of negotiations within the EEC concerning the reassessment of coefficients used in calculating monetary compensatory amounts.

At the meeting of the Council of Ministers (Agriculture) on 19th and 20th June, the Commission assured me that work on the reassessment of the coefficients used to calculate monetary compensatory amounts for pigmeat products was in hand. I have stressed the importance which I attach to an early settlement of this matter.

Food And Sweets (Labelling And Packaging)

49.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the regulations concerning the labelling and packaging of food and sweets.

The Food Standards Committee is at present carrying out a full review of our labelling law. Its report is due to be published early next year, and my right hon. Friend will consider the recommendations in the light of comments from interested parties before deciding whether any changes should be made in the present regulations.

Common Fisheries Policy

50.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the latest situation regarding renegotiation of the common fisheries policy.

I refer the hon. Member to my statement to the House on 22nd June and to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Dudley, West (Dr. Phipps) on 3rd July.—[Vol. 952, c. 717–26: Vol. 953, c. 13–14.]

Potato Marketing Board

51.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many representatives of consumer, retailing and processing interests sit on the Potato Marketing Board.

None. The potato marketing scheme provides for the board to comprise 29 elected producer members and four appointed by Ministers. Minister's members are appointed

"as having had experience and shown capacity in commerce, finance, administration, public affairs or the organisation of workers or as being specially conversant with the interests of consumers of the regulated product."
However, once appointed, they serve in the public interest and not as representatives of any sector.

Animals (Export)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to conclude his discussions with the various interested bodies regarding the recent report on the export of live animals.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mr. Corbett).

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has decided what action to take with regard to banning the export of live animals; and what the implications of this ban would be in terms of the European Economic Community rules on free trade.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mr. Corbett).

Cattle Markets

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) if he will ensure that in considering appeals against the Meat and Livestock Commission's proposal to withdraw certification centres to certain cattle markets including that at Sudbury, Suffolk, he will ensure that the data upon which the Commission's work is available to market owners and that cognisance will be taken of local farming opinion;(2) in view of the fact that the owners of Sudbury cattle market have been refused by the Meat and Livestock Commission data on the anticipated savings to the Commission which might accrue to it if Sudbury market ceases to be a certification centre, which prejudices the market's appeal to his Department, if he will take steps to remedy this.

The withdrawal of the approval of certain livestock markets as certification centres is the result of a review of centres throughout Great Britain to effect economies in public expenditure. Operators of all liveweight and deadweight centres have been told of the general criteria being applied, and I have also written to the hon. Member about the situation concerning Sudbury cattle market.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food by what powers the Meat and Livestock Commission is proposing to withdraw Sudbury cattle market as a certification centre; and if he is satisfied with the procedures so far followed.

The approval of premises, including cattle markets, as certification centres for sheep guarantee and beef premium purposes is one of the functions delegated to the Meat and Livestock Commission by Agricultural Ministers under section 3 of the Agriculture Act 1967.My right hon. Friend and I are satisfied with the procedures so far followed in the case of Sudbury cattle market.

Potatoes

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was agreed on 14th June when the marketing and support arrangements for potatoes for the 1978–77 crop year were discussed by his officials, the chairman of the Potato Marketing Board and the deputy president of the National Farmers' Union.

At the meeting held on 14th June to discuss the marketing and support arrangements for potatoes for the 1978–79 crop year the producer interests pressed for the continuation of the guarantee arrangements. Their views were taken into account in reaching the decision announced on 21st June that the Government had decided to continue with these arrangements and that the guaranteed price would be £.44·64 per ton.—[Vol. 952, c. 198.]

Potato Marketing Board

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when the promised reconstruction of the Potato Marketing Board will be carried out.

My right hon. Friend has not suggested reconstruction of the Potato Marketing Board, but he has indicated that the future role of the board will depend on the result of current negotiations on an EEC potato regime. It is too early to say when these negotiations will be concluded.

Butter

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will support the Commission plan to sell surplus butter at reduced prices to people receiving social assistance; and if he will make a statement on what the plan would involve.

At this year's farm prices settlement in May the Council of Ministers approved the reintroduction of a scheme to allow member States to grant a subsidy for the purchase of butter by persons receiving social assistance, and is expected to adopt formally a regulation to this effect next week. The scheme, which is optional, would enable member States to reclaim up to 50 units of account per 100 kilogrammes from FEOGA towards the cost of any such subsidy.

Sea Defences (Norfolk)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, if, in view of the fact that the cost of repairs and improvements to sea defences at King's Lynn and between Hunstanton and Snettisham is likely to be £5 million which, if aided at the rate the Government now propose, will leave a substantial balance to be borne by local ratepayers, he will review his current plan to pay only 85 per cent. grant towards repairing and improving sea defences damaged in the January floods which resulted from the highest ever recorded tidal surge, as on the occasion of the previous highest recorded level in 1953 a 100 per cent. grant was made.

As a result of the considerable investment by the Government and drainage authorities in sea defences over the last 25 years, the effects of the January 1978 storm tide surge were in general not comparable with those of the January 1953 surge.The information which we have received from the Anglian Water Authority about its probable expenditure on repair and improvements to sea defences over the next two years suggests that the additional burden likely to fall on ratepayers through the drainage precept would not justify any increase in the current substantial rates of grant.

Prices And Consumer Protection

Food And Drink Prices

58.

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he is satisfied with the trend in the retail price of the main food and drink items in the average weekly shopping basket (a) in the first half of 1978, and (b) from the second half of 1974 to the end of 1977.

I am pleased to note that the annual increase in food prices in the first two quarters of 1978 was at the lowest level since the middle of 1970. This is a very significant improvement on the rate of increase seen in the immediately preceding years.

Retail Price Index

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he will set out in the Official Report a table showing the annual change in the retail price index each year since 1946 and showing the food element for each year.

Annual percentage changes for the month of December for each of the years 1946 to 1977 inclusive, and for June 1978 are set out in the table below. The information has been calculated from available indices, namely, the cost of living index (to June 1947), the interim index of retail prices (June 1947 to January 1956) and the general index of retail prices (from January 1956 onwards).

ANNUAL CHANGES IN RETAIL PRICES AND IN FOOD PRICES 1946–78
All itemsFood
Percentage change on same month a year earlier
December 19460·5-0·6
December 19473·2-0·9
December 19484·94·4
December 19493·510·8
December 19503·24·9
December 195112·015·6
December 19526·412·9
December 19531·10·3
December 19544·07·8
December 19555·87·5
December 19563·00·9
December 19574·63·6
December 19581·83·0
December 1959-0·5
December 19601·8-0·6
December 19614·41·9
December 19622·62·7
December 19631·92·2
December 19644·85·1
December 19654·53·1
December 19663·73·3
December 19672·52·6
December 19685·94·4
December 19694·76·4
December 19707·98·0
December 19719·013·0
December 19727·78·7
December 197310·619·0
December 197419·117·8
December 197524·926·0
December 197615·122·1
December 197712·110·6
June 19787·46·7

Price Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection (1) in what circumstances it is his practice to require the Price Commission to make available information from its files to his Department or other Departments of Government;(2) whether it is the practice of the Price Commission to make available information from its files to Government Departments;(3) whether the Price Commission is able under statute to make available to his Department or to other Departments of Government the information given to its representatives in confidence in the course of an investigation or examination.

My right hon. hon. Friend has no power to require the Price Commission to make available any information on its files to his own or any other Goverment Department. The Commission is, however, permitted by statute to give such information to Ministers and officers of the Crown, if it so wishes.In practice, the Commission does not make information available except in certain limited circumstances described in a letter from its chairman to the director general of the Confederation of British Industry and published in that body's bulletin at the end of April. The circumstances are:

  • (a) where prima facie evidence of a restrictive practice is disclosed in the course of an investigation, the Commission is required by section 19 of the Price Commission Act to send particulars to the Director General of Fair Trading;
  • (b) where a notified price increase appears to the Commission to be a strong candidate for investigation, information about the notification is given on a voluntary basis to my Department, who in turn consult other interested Departments. Such information is treated in the strictest confidence: the sole purpose of the consultation is to allow Departments, including the sponsoring Ministry, to inform the Commission if they consider that there are special factors which the Commission should bear in mind in deciding whether or not to investigate.
  • (c) certain information on pay settlements is passed to the Department of Employment for advice under the terms of the current and earlier Price Codes.
  • No information made available to the Commission during an investigation or examination is passed to my own or other Departments other than is contained in the reports submitted to my right hon. Friend.

    Procurator Fiscal Service (Oban)

    asked the Lord Advocate what would be the annual cost of a full-time procurator fiscal service in Oban.

    If a full-time procurator fiscal were appointed solely for Oban he would be on the senior legal assistant scale, the mid-point of which is £8,894. He would require a typist, and the average salary for typists is £2,340. The annual salary cost would accordingly be in the region of £11,234.However, if the present part-time procurator fiscal were to leave the service, he would not be replaced by a full-time officer. The procurator fiscal at Campbeltown would in the first place be asked to undertake the work. He would require to be reimbursed for his travelling expenses and this would depend on the actual travelling involved. He would require to have in the Oban office an assistant in the clerical officer grade with typing ability. Her salary would be approximately £3,000. If this arrangement created too heavy a work load for the procurator fiscal at Campbeltown the situation would require to be reviewed.

    Nationalised Industries

    5.

    asked the Prime Minister when he intends next to meet the chairman of the nationalised industries.

    Q36.

    asked the Prime Minister when he expects next to meet the chairmen of the nationalised industries.

    I do not see the heads of nationalised industries collectively, but I meet them individually from time to time as necessary.

    Civil Servants (Political Activities)

    Q6.

    asked the Prime Minister what decisions he has taken on the report of the Armitage Committee on the political activities of civil servants.

    Discussions on the report are in progress. Decisions will be taken when all the appropriate consultations are concluded.

    Tuc And Cbi

    Q7.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave him on 18th July.

    Q8.

    Q32.

    Q40.

    I refer my hon. Friends to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Ealing, North (Mr. Molloy) on 18th July.

    Q9.

    Q10.

    Q19.

    Q38.

    Q39.

    I refer my hon. Friends to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, East (Mr. Thomas) on 18th July.

    Q15.

    Q16.

    I refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Cannock (Mr. Roberts) on 18th July.

    Prime Minister (Engagements)

    Q11.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q13.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his public engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q14.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q17.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q20.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for 20th July.

    Q21.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q23.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q25.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q26.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q27.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q28.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q29.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q30.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q31.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q34.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q35.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q37.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q42.

    Q43.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q46.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    Q47.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q49.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for 20th July.

    Q50.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    Q53.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for Thursday 20th July.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 20th July.

    I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Perth and East Perthshire (Mr. Crawford).

    Wages And Inflation (Prime Minister's Speech)

    Q12.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will place in the Library a copy of his speech to the Confederation of Shipbuilding and Engineering Unions at Eastbourne on 30th June about wages and inflation.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Romford (Mr. Neubert).

    Disarmament

    Q18.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will invite Mr. Carter and Mr. Brezhnev to meet him, following the United Nations Special Session on Disarmament and the recent Soviet proposals for forces reduction in central Europe.

    I have at present no plans to do so, but the latest Soviet proposals which seem to represent some advance are now being carefully examined by Her Majesty's Government and our allies.

    Age Prejudice

    Q24.

    asked the Prime Minister what is Government policy towards combating prejudice on the grounds of age.

    I take it that the hon. Member is principally concerned with prejudice on grounds of age in employment. In general, the Government's policy is to discourage employers from placing arbitrary age barriers on employment opportunities. However, the age of retirement in particular industries or services is a matter for negotiation between employers and trade unions.

    Cabinet Ministers (Official Visits)

    Q33.

    asked the Prime Minister what is the practice of his Administration in regard to notification by Cabinet Ministers of official visits to hon. Members' constituencies; and if he will take steps to remind them of the need for this.

    The practice of Ministers is that, when accepting invitations to visit constituencies, they inform the Members concerned. I am not aware of any need to remind Ministers of this, but if the hon. Member has any particular problem in mind I will arrange for it to be considered.

    Chancellor Of The Exchequer

    Q41.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will dismiss the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Melton (Mr. Latham) on 13th July.

    Government Policy (Parliamentary Questions)

    Q44.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will make it his practice to accept parliamentary Questions relating to broad Government policy and not transfer them to the appropriate departmental Minister.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to the right hon. Lady the Leader of the Opposition on 8th November.

    Ussr

    Q45.

    asked the Prime Minister if he will seek to make an official visit to the Soviet Union.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Lord President of the Council gave on my behalf to the hon. Member for Chingford on 6th July.

    Petrochemical Industrial Sites

    Q52.

    asked the Prime Minister if he is satisfied with the co-ordination between the Departments of Energy, Defence and the Environment in the siting of petrochemical industrial complexes in the vicinity of naval bases, with particular reference to Rosyth Dockyard.

    Immigrants

    Q54.

    asked the Prime Minister whether he will give for the longest and most convenient period of time the actual dates when he visited areas with a large immigrant population specifically to discuss with the local inhabitants their various problems, and the actual date when he last visited the East End of London for these purposes.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave him on 14th July. I last made an official visit to the East End of London on 14th January 1977.

    Legal Services (Scotland)

    asked the Prime Minister whether he has any changes to announce in the membership of the Royal Commission on legal services in Scotland.

    Yes. The Queen has approved that Sir George Sharp, OBE, JP, be appointed a member of the Royal Commission on legal services in Scotland in succession to the late Geoffrey Mackintosh Shaw, Esquire, MA, BD.

    Royal Commissions

    asked the Prime Minister (1) what emoluments, payments in kind, perquisites and expenses, other than salaries, are paid to chairmen and members of Royal Commissions;(2) on what principle chairmen and members of Royal Commissions are remunerated.(3) why some chairmen of Royal Commissions are paid a salary but others are not.

    In general, public service of this kind is undertaken on a voluntary unpaid basis. However, a salary or daily fee may be paid; whether this is appropriate will depend on the circumstances of the individual concerned and the nature of the Royal Commission, and in particular on the time demanded of the chairman and members. The level of any salary or daily fee is determined in the light of the remunera- tion then being paid for public appointments elsewhere.Chairmen and members of Royal Commissions who do not receive a salary may receive fees of £30 per day and £25 per day respectively. Alternatively, they may be reimbursed for financial loss caused by their membership up to a maximum of £10·75 per day. They also receive travel and subsistence expenses together with the stationery and other requisites necessary to carry out their work. Additionally, the chairman of major Royal Commissions may be presented with a reproduction silver inkstand as a tangible reward for onerous public duties usually performed unpaid.

    Trade

    Company Law

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a statement about his plans for changes in company law.

    I am publishing today a White Paper on changes in company law. The White Paper sets out draft clauses which have been prepared to give effect principally to the second EEC directive on company law and to the proposals put forward in the White Paper on the conduct of company directors, which the Government published in November 1977. Because it has not proved possible to find parliamentary time for this legislation in the current session, the Government have decided to publish these draft clauses to provide a longer time for public consideration and consultation than is permitted by the normal parliamentary timetable for legislation.

    Machine Tools (Imports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the level of import penetration by volume and value of the United Kingdom machine tool market at the latest date for which information is available.

    Import penetration of the United Kingdom machine tool market, measured as a ratio of the value of imports to home demand, in the calendar year 1977 was 46 per cent.A measure in terms of volumes is not available.

    Court Line

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the latest situation in regard to the clearing up of the Court Line case; and when creditors will receive money that is owed to them.

    I understand from the liquidators' office that there remain complex legal and other problems to resolve in connection with the realisation of assets and the determination of liabilities of Court Line Limited and that it will be some time yet before the winding-up can be concluded.An interim dividend of 3½p in the pound has been paid to the unsecured creditors of Court Line Limited and dividends have also been, paid to creditors of some of the other companies in the Court Line group. The liquidators say that they will pay further dividends as and when sufficient funds become available.

    Airports (Industrial Action)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade, in view of the hardship and inconvenience caused to business and holiday travellers in consequence of industrial action and flight delays at airports, if he will take steps to discuss with the authorities concerned the setting up of a scheme for compensation to be provided to travellers paid for by the bodies or organisations responsible for the delays.

    No. A necessary and difficult feature of such a scheme would be the allocation of responsibility. Alternatively, the cost of compensation would be passed on to air travellers as part of the cost of providing air transport or air traffic control.

    Knitwear (Import Quotas)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade in which categories of knitwear Greece, India, Pakistan and Taiwan had, at the latest available date, exceeded their respective quotas under the Multi-Fibre Arrangement for the whole of 1978; and by how much the quotas were exceeded in each case.

    In the first five months of 1978, imports of knitted shirts from Greece exceeded the level to which representatives of the Greek industry had assured the EEC Commission that exports would be limited by 1,226,000 pieces. The Commission imposed quantitative restrictions on imports of knitted shirts from Greece as from 7th July. There are quotas for imports of many knitted items from India, Pakistan and Taiwan, and in all cases import licences issued by the United Kingdom are within the 1978 quota levels. But there may be discrepancies between the 1978 import statistics and quota levels for various reasons, such as additional imports licensed only for re-export, or shipments arriving this year but shipped in 1977 and therefore not counting against the 1978 quota.

    European Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the trade deficit with the EEC for the last 12 months on an overseas trade statistics basis.

    Our crude trade deficit with the EEC in the 12 months ended June was £2,250 million.

    Home Insulation Material

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) what is his estimate of the total annual costs of the export of general insulation material for loft insulation for use in homes;(2) what is his estimate of the total annual costs of the import of general insulation material for loft insulation for use in homes.

    Fish Imports (European Community Duty)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what rates of import duty are charged by the European Community on fish imported from Norway and Iceland, respectively; and what is the reason for the difference.

    The duties on saltwater fish under the common customs tariff range from zero to 23 per cent. depending on the type, preparation and use of the fish. The only tariff concessions for Norwegian fish are on frozen fillets—other than of tunny—which are charged at 3 per cent. instead of the CCT duty of 15 per cent. In the case of Icelandic fish, frozen fillets—including those of tunny—are free of duty, redfish are charged at 2 per cent. instead of the CCT duty of 8 per cent, and cod, coalfish and halibut are charged at 3·7 per cent. instead of the CCT duty of 15 per cent.The differences between the rates for Norwegian and Icelandic fish reflect the negotiation requirements of the agreements between the EEC and those countries.

    Civil Service

    Statutes (Chronological Table)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service when he now expects the chronological table of the statutes to the end of 1976 to be published.

    The chronological table of the statutes 1235–1976 was published, in two volumes, on 28th June last.

    British Library

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service (1) what is the total expenditure to date through his Department with the British Library on computerisation of information for science, and the research, capital and preparatory costs for this;(2) what is the total expenditure to date through his Department with the British Library on on-line computerisation of information for science, and the research, capital and preparatory costs for this.

    Expenditure on work which can be described as computerisation of information and on research, capital and preparatory costs of the British Library system is not undertaken through my Department.The total of contracts by my Department on behalf of user Departments, with the British Library for all computerised information services to date, is £2,786·60. No record is kept of the proportion of this amount attributable to information for science. The contracts do not specify whether or not the information is to be received on-line but it can be assumed that information is usually provided on-line.

    Computerisation

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service (1) what is the total expenditure to date through his Department with American companies on online computerisation of information for science and the research, capital and preparatory costs for this;(2) what is the total expenditure to date through his Department with American companies on computerisation of information for science and the research, capital and preparatory costs for this.

    My Department has incurred no expenditure of the kind referred to. $21,810 has been spent to date with American companies on obtained information from their computerised systems.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what representations he has received to the effect that Government Departments are spending large sums of money on computerised systems which has resulted in high graduate unemployment, with librarians and information officers put out of work due to the use of machines, which in some cases are more expensive and less effective than the people they replace.

    I have received no such representations. If my hon. Friend has information which substantiates the allegations in his Question I shall be pleased to receive it.

    Female Judges

    asked the Attorney-General how many female judges there are; when they were appointed; whether they receive the same conditions of service as the male judges; how many judges there are in total; and what action he proposes to take to increase the number of women judges.

    There are two women High Court judges, appointed in October 1965 and July 1974, and eight women circuit judges, appointed on various dates from April 1971 to January 1978. Women also serve at all other levels of the professional judiciary, below that of judge, and of the 23,983 lay justices of the peace, 8,850 (that is, 37·7 per cent.) are women. The conditions of service of women judges are identical with those of their male colleagues, save for certain differences in their pension terms. There is no pension provision for a judge's widower. Apart from the Lord Chancellor and nine lords of appeal in ordinary, there are 94 Supreme Court judges (including 75 High Court judges) and 291 circuit judges altogether.My noble Friend would welcome a further increase in the number of women judges, and takes every opportunity of recommending suitably qualified candidates. The paramount principle followed by my noble Friend is to recommend for judicial appointment the persons best qualified, regardless of sex, race, religion or any other extraneous factor.

    Law Centres

    asked the Attorney-General how many law centres there are in the United Kingdom; and where they are located.

    There is one law centre in Belfast and 27 agencies generally recognised as law centres in England and Wales. These are located as follows:

    Name of Centre and Location

    • Adamsdown Community Trust—Cardiff.
    • Balham Neighbourhood Law Centre—Wandsworth, London.
    • Battersea Law Centre—Wandsworth, London.
    • Benwell Community Law Project—Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
    • Brent Community Law Centre—Brent, London.
    • Cambridge House and Talbot Legal Advice Centre—Southwark, London.
    • Camden Community Law Centre—Camden, London.
    • Coventry Legal and Income Rights Service—Coventry.
    • Garratt Lane Law Centre—Wandsworth, London.
    • Hackney Advice Bureau and Law Centre—Hackney, London.
    • Handsworth Law Centre—Birmingham.
    • Hillingdon Community Law Centre—Hillingdon, London.
    • Islington Community Law Centre—Islington, London.
    • Lambeth Community Law Centre—Lambeth, London.
    • Manchester Law Centre—Manchester.
    • Newham Rights Centre—Newham, London.
    • North Kensington Law Centre—Kensington and Chelsea, London.
    • North Lewisham Law Centre—Lewisham, London.
    • Paddington Advice and Law Centre—
    • Westminster, London.
    • Saltley Action Centre—Birmingham.
    • South Wales Anti-Poverty Action Centre—Merthyr Tydfil.
    • Southwark Law Project—Southwark, London.
    • Small Heath Law Centre—Birmingham.
    • Tottenham Neighbourhood Law Centre—Tottenham, London.
    • Tower Hamlets Law Centre—Tower Hamlets, London.
    • Vauxhall Community Law Centre—Liverpool.
    • West Hampstead Community Law Centre—Camden, London.

    asked the Attorney-General how many law centres have been established in each year since the first law centre was created.

    The number of law centres established in England and Wales is as follows:

    19701
    1971
    1972
    19737
    19743
    19754
    19767
    19773
    19782

    asked the Attorney-General how many legally qualified persons are employed in law centres at the present time.

    About 80 qualified salaried lawyers are currently employed in the law centres in England and Wales.

    asked the Attorney-General how much money has been spent by Her Majesty's Government on law centres since the inception of the scheme.

    The total sums paid out of central Government funds in grants to law centres in England and Wales are as follows:

    1974–75£69,530
    1975–76£149,530
    1976–77£380,410
    1977–78 (estimated)£527,350
    Information relating to the years prior to 1974–75 is not readily available. Neither is it possible to give an accurate assesment of the amount expended in the first quarter of the present financial year.

    asked the Attorney-General how much money has been spent by local authorities on law centres.

    This information is not available centrally and could be obtained only with a disproportionate expenditure of time and cost.

    asked the Attorney-General if figures are kept of the number of visits made to law centres by members of the public; and, if so, how many such visits there have been.

    Each law centre records the number of inquiries it receives, but this information is not collected centrally and is, therefore, not readily available. However, figures obtained by my noble Friend's Department from 23 law centres show that these centres dealt with over 137,000 inquiries in 1977.

    Legal Aid

    asked the Attorney-General whether he will introduce legislation to seek to enable legal aid to be made available to parents resident in the United Kingdom who have to initiate legal proceedings in courts overseas for the recovery of children who have been snatched.

    Legal representation and the circumstances in which it is allowed can only be a matter for the country concerned. As explained by my hon. Friend, the Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department in the debate on the Adjournment on 23rd March 1978, the better course in these matters is to secure international agreement on the provision of legal aid under the rules of the country where the proceedings are brought, though I cannot promise early results. Meanwhile, this country has recently become a party to the European agreement on transmission to other countries of applications for legal aid, which should be of considerable help to applicants in that area.

    London Small Claims Court

    asked the Attorney-General in the light of the valuable work done by the London small claims court, and of the danger of this court's closing due to lack of funds, if he will indicate what the Government's policy is towards future financial support.

    In view of the continuing growth of the successful county court arbitration scheme to which further improvements have recently been made, my noble Friend the Lord Chancellor does not propose to make available financial support for the London Small Claims Court.

    Wales

    Doctors (Car Telephones)

    asked the Secreary of State for Wales how many general medical practitioners in practice in the National Health Service in Wales have the use of radio telephone facilities in their cars to expedite urgent communication.

    I regret that this information is not available. A general medical practitioner is an independent contractor to the National Health Service and is as such responsible for providing himself with whatever equipment he requires to provide necessary and appropriate services for his patients.

    Sheep (Killing By Dogs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many sheep have been killed by dogs in Wales during the last six months; what were the corresponding figures for the last 10 years; and if he will make a statement.

    Reports on the number of sheep killed by dogs in Wales are submitted by the police to local authorities on an annual basis. Figures for the last six months and for the corresponding period in the last 10 years could not be obtained without disproportionate effort.The reported numbers of sheep killed by dogs in each year since 1966 are as follows:

    YearNo
    19661,804
    19672,008
    19681,642
    19691,689
    19702,130
    19711,561
    19721,409
    19731,706
    1974*
    19751,743
    19762,053
    19771,942
    * Figures not available owing to local Government reorgansiation.

    Sheep worrying by dogs is a continuing problem particularly in South Wales where sheep farming is practised in close proximity to urban areas. It is important to bring home to the public the need to keep dogs under control in the countryside. The Welsh Office regularly issues a press notice on the subject and a colour poster on this subject has been widely distributed.

    Cardigan Bay (Barrage Scheme)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he has any plans to build a barrage scheme in Cardigan Bay during the next five years; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. and learned Friend has no plans to build such a barrage and I am not aware of plans by any other authority to do so.

    Transport

    Rail Freight Services (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport, in view of the fact that the tax revenue to cost ratios of individual classes of road vehicles can be ascertained, if he will ensure that railway accounting methods are advanced to the level of road accounts by giving a general direction to the British Railways Board to abandon the use of the avoidable cost principle and to ascertain the actual costs of rail freight services.

    M42 (Castle Donington)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he will announce a date for the holding of a public inquiry into the Castle Donington section of the M42 motorway.

    My right hon. Friend hopes to announce his preferred route early next year. This will be followed in due course by publication of the statutory proposals, after which it will be possible to decide the date of any public inquiry which may be necessary.

    Alderley Edge Spine Road

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport when he anticipates that work will commence on the Alderley Edge Spine Road.

    The existing road through Alderley Edge is a principal road and is the responsibility of Cheshire County Council as highway authority. I regret that we have no knowledge of any proposal which could be described as a spine road.

    Road Tankers (Dangerous Loads)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will now introduce legislation to require all road tankers carrying hazardous chemicals and liquified gases to follow specified safe routes and to park only in specified safe areas, and which will make the Hazchem scheme mandatory.

    Local authorities already have powers to control the routeing and parking of such tankers, and to provide off-street parking places. Statutory controls over parking of dangerous goods vehicles will be extended in the comprehensive regulations now being prepared by the Health and Safety Executive. I hope to introduce tanker labelling regulations, incorporating the Hazchem code, very soon.

    Canvey Island (Access To Mainland)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether, as a matter of urgency, he will order a special study to be made of the need for alternative access from Canvey Island to the mainland, in view of the possible accident involving ammonia envisaged on page 112 of the recent Health and Safety Executive report, which might close the single road junction which currently provides the only escape route.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment on 17th July 1978. The Health and Safety Executive's current discussions with the responsible local authorities will serve to establish whether an alternative access should be provided.

    A428, Bedford (Speeding Offences)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many truck owners have been prosecuted for speeding on the A428 in the vicinity of Church Lane, Goldington, Bedford; and whether such action has had the effect of moderating the speed of large container traffic in the area.

    I have been asked to reply.I regret that this information is not available.

    Environment

    Agricultural Tenants (Rehousing)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list those housing authorities which are refusing to provide accommodation for agricultural tenants who are required to surrender agricultural tenancies and are eligible for rehousing by local authorities.

    We do not have such information. The Rent (Agriculture) Act 1976 requires that if a local authority is satisfied that an application for rehousing is substantiated, it must use its best endeavours to provide suitable alternative accommodation. If it is not so satisfied, it must state its reasons. In assessing the priority to be given to meet the applicant's case, the authority is required to take into account the urgency of the case, the competing claims on the accommodation it can provide, and the resources at its disposal. Legal remedies are open to an applicant who considers that an authority is in breach of its statutory duty.

    Gipsies

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he plans to conduct regular counts of gipsy families and their caravans; and, if so, how frequently.(2) why district councils and London boroughs have been advised to refrain from giving undue publicity to the precise date of the proposed census of gipsy families and their caravans.

    With the agreement of the local authority associations, the Department asked district and London borough councils to carry out on 12th July 1978 (or as close to that date as possible), and thereafter at six-monthly intervals, a count of gipsy caravans in their area. This puts on a uniform and country wide basis the counts which many authorities already carry out. It was suggested to councils that, because of the known sensitivity of gipsies to any form of official survey, they might with benefit refrain from giving undue publicity to the precise date of the count. The count of caravans was not, as has been widely alleged, either a census or secret.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if Her Majesty's Government intend to make grants available for either capital or maintenance costs to local authorities for the establishment of sites for gipsies as recommended in the Cripps report.

    I would refer the hon. Member to the answer that I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Peterborough (Mr. Ward) on 19th July.

    Liverpool Street Station

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is yet in a position to make a statement on Liverpool Street Station.

    I am still considering the inspector's report on the proposals for the redevelopment of Liverpool Street and Broad Street stations. A decision will be announced as soon as possible.

    Rate Support Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the total amounts paid through the rate support grant, and each of the other major grants administered by his Department to local authorities for each of the last 10 years and the percentage of the national total of each grant that payments to local authorities in Surrey represented in each of these years.

    The total amounts paid in rate support grant for each of the years from 1969–70 to 1976–77 and the latest estimates for 1977–78 and 1978–79, together with the proportion of these grants paid to local authorities in Surrey, are set out below. The comparable figures for the other major grant administered by this Department—housing subsidies, including slum clearance subsidy and improvement grants—are shown for the years 1974–75 to 1977–78. The housing

    Rate Support GrantHousing Subsidies
    England and Wales £m.Percentage paid to Surrey authoritiesEnglandPercentage paid to Surrey authorities
    1969–701,619·01·7
    1970–711,880·01·8
    1971–722,173·01·8
    1972–732,528·01·8
    1973–743,098·01·7
    1974–754,382·91·6697·10·8
    1975–765,784·91·5987·70·9
    1976–776,291·11·41,182·60·9
    1977–786,465·61·21,332·80·9
    1978–796,843·81·2

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the Official Report the amounts paid through the rate support grant to each local authority in each year since 1973 and the percentage of the total disbursement through the rate support grant each payment represented in each year.

    British Urban Development Services Unit

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will give details of the new programme of work which he has set for the British Urban Development Services Unit, following his decision to reduce its scale of activities; what is its new budget for 1978–79; what is the authorised staffing establishment; and whether he will make a statement.

    Consideration of these matters, consequent on the decision announced in reply to the hon. Member on 12th July, is still in progress.

    Calcium Chloride

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he has now received from the Building Research Establishment its reports on calcuim chloride; for how long it has been in his possession; when he intends to publish it; and whether he will make a statement.

    The report, dealing only with "intergrid" buildings, was received on 10th May. I hope that it will be published shortly. (None of the

    grant figures are not really available for the earlier years or for 1978–79.

    buildings was found to be structurally at risk).

    Blackwater Estuary Estate Association

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to make his decision in regard to the appeal by the Blackwater Estuary Estate Association against enforcement notices on land belonging to their members.

    Lyceum, Liverpool

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is yet in a position to make a statement on the future of the Lyceum, Liverpool.

    Not yet. Discussions are continuing. I shall make a further statement as soon as possible.

    Flood Damage (East Anglia)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is aware that district councils have incurred heavy costs as a result of immediate action to restore damaged areas after the flood in January; and if he will consider a request from the North Norfolk District Council for interim payment by central Government at the rate of 75 per cent. of cost over and above the product of a penny rate.

    I am fully aware that many local authorities were severely affected by last winter's bad weather, and those that incurred exceptionel expenditure beyond the product of a one penny rate will qualify for special financial assistance. An interim payment to the North Norfolk district council will be made shortly.

    Football Matches (Attendances)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the estimated total attendance at professional football matches in recent years.

    I am informed that the total atendances at Football League and Football League cup matches for England and Wales during recent years were as follows:

    SeasonLeague AttendancesLeague Cup Attendances
    1977–7825,392,5122,038,295
    1976–7726,182,8002,236,636
    1975–7624,896,0531,841,735
    1974–7525,577,9771,901,094
    1973–7424,982,2031,722,629
    No precise figures are available for attendances at FA cup matches, but the Football Association estimates that cup ties in the third and subsequent rounds have been watched by about 1·8 million spectators in each of the last three seasons.

    Loft Insulation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will list those approved companies producing blankets, rolls and mats from mineral wool for loft insulation for use in homes;(2) if he will list those approved companies producing blankets, rolls, and mats from glass fibre for loft insulation for use in homes;(3) what procedures his Department observes in the vetting of imported materials for loft insulation for use in homes;(4) what proposals he has for using the Agrément Board in the assessment of insulation materials for loft insulation for use in homes;(5) what are the proposed assessment procedures of his Department for the granting of official approval for mineral fibre as loft insulation for use in homes under the Homes Insulation Bill grants scheme;(6) what are the proposed assessment procedures of his Department for the granting of official approval for cellulose fibre as loft insulation for use in homes under the Homes Insulation Bill grants scheme;

    (7) what are the proposed assessment procedures of his Department for the granting of official approval for glass fibre as loft insulation for use in homes under the Homes Insulation Bill grants scheme.

    Whilst the Department cannot undertake responsibility for quality control of individual insulation products, it is obviously desirable that householders who seek to take advantage of grant-aid under the Homes Insulation Bill should only use products which are both safe and effective. The draft scheme circulated to the House during the passage of the Bill proposed immediate acceptance, for grant purposes, of the more common, well-tried forms of insulation, but would have required independent approval by the Agrément Board, or compliance with any British Standard for the time being in force, for other products.On further consideration, however, I feel that this procedure would not offer adequate protection for the householder from, for example, unsatisfactory imported products, and further discussions are therefore being held urgently with the Agrément Board and with manufacturers of the various forms of insulation material. I hope that decisions will be taken in the very near future and will ensure that they are made public at the earliest opportunity.

    Overseas Development

    Aid (New Initiatives)

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development if she will publish the report of the Council on International Development entitled "Proposals for some new initiatives in British aid".

    Industry

    Steel Consumption

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish a table from international sources available to him showing the volume of steel consumed per capita of population in each of the EEC countries, and in Sweden, Japan and the United States of America, for the most recent convenient year.

    The information for 1976 is as follows:

    Kgs per capita*
    West Germany590
    France430
    Italy390
    Netherlands370
    Belgium and Luxembourg470
    United Kingdom410
    Ireland150
    Denmark450
    United States of America600
    Sweden740
    Japan530
    * Defined as apparent consumption of steel per head of population. Apparent consumption=production plus imports minus exports, all expressed in crude steel equivalents. No allowance is made for variations in stock levels.
    Source: United Nations, Economic Commission for Europe, Steel Market Review.

    British Urban Design Services Unit

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether, in view of the published losses of the British Urban Design Services Unit, he will issue a specific direction to the National Enterprise Board to prohibit it from investing public funds in any similar venture in Saudi Arabia.

    Industry Act Assistance (Walsall)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the total amount of assistance granted to firms with plant in Walsall under each scheme of the Industry Act.

    Nine firms have received offers of selective financial assistance totalling £269,000 under section 8 of the Industry Act 1972 towards projects in Walsall, with an estimated cost of £3,722,000. The assistance is as follows:

    SchemeNumber of companiesValue of offer (£000)
    Accelerated projects188
    Ferrous foundry4308
    Non-ferrous foundry2352
    Machine tool19
    Clothing industry116

    Industrial Development Certificates (Norfolk)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many industrial development certificates were granted in the Norfolk, North-West par- liamentary constituency in 1977; and how this figure compares with those in each of the previous five years.

    Statistics for industrial development certificates are not available in respect of parliamentary constituencies. In the employment office areas of Hunstanton, King's Lynn and Fakenham, which approximate to the Norfolk, North-West constituency, industrial development certificates have been granted as follows:

    YearNumber
    197218
    197311
    197416
    197512
    19764
    19774
    Exemption limits were raised in July 1972, lowered in September 1974 and raised in May 1976.

    Steel

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what action he is planning to encourage the other EEC member States to ensure their steel industries exercise more self-discipline in pricing in order to avoid the serious effects a price war will have on the Davignon plan.

    The Government have urged on the Commission the need to take action against breaches of its pricing measures. The Commission has recently announced steps to improve enforcement and we shall be watching their effect closely.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he is taking steps to co-ordinate the output of the British Steel Corporation during the third quarter of 1978 with the outline recommendations of the Davignon plan; and, if so, if he will give his estimate of the British Steel Corporation's output figure in tonnes for that period.

    The corporation is taking part in the production coordination arrangements which are established on a country-by-country basis. My Department is keeping in close touch with this. The indicated output figure for the United Kingdom for the third quarter of 1978 is 4·95 million tonnes of crude steel which is in line with the expected level of sales. The distribution of this figure between British producers, including BSC, is a matter for the organisations concerned in consultation with the EEC Commission.

    Commodities (Reserve Stocks)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list the commodities of which the Government, or agencies acting on its behalf, have strategic reserve stocks; having regard to the public interest, whether he can list the present levels of some or all of the strategic reserves of metals; and how long such stocks would last if no new supplies were forthcoming.

    The Department of Industry does not hold strategic reserves of raw materials. I understand that the Ministry of Defence does hold minor quantities or certain materials but for commercial reasons information on the current level of stocks is not available.

    Crane Manufacturing

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will consider and take action to assist the British crane manufacturing industry which is currently facing intense and unfair competition from overseas producers who appear to be more strongly supported from public funds in their country of origin than is the case in the United Kingdom.

    British crane manufacturers already have available to them the full range of Government schemes designed to assist industry, for example, for investment, product development and exporting. I know that many companies in this sector are making good use of these aids in the present difficult market situation. However, I am of course willing to consider whether we can help this sector further if my hon. Friend has new evidence of unfair and subsidised competition from overseas producers.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Passport Applications

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what number of passport applications were received at the Peterborough regional office during each month of the year ended 31st December 1977 and for each month of the year 1978 so far as available.

    The table below sets out the number of applications for new passports received in the Peterborough pass-port office in 1977 and during the first six months of 1978.

    19771978
    January14,42122,065
    February22,94630,017
    March25,02739,379
    April20,21736,613
    May27,17135,512
    June25,93140,922
    July22,916
    August18,369
    September13,785
    October11,025
    November11,076
    December7,233

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what is the annual number of passport applications received at the Peterborough regional passport office for each of the three years prior to 31st December 1977.

    The annual number of passport applications received at the Peterborough passport office during the last three years is as follows:—

    Year ending 31st December 1975262,291
    Year ending 31st December 1976238,978
    Year ending 31st December 1977220,117

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what consideration he is giving to allowing women to make passport applications in either their unmarried or married surnames; and if he will celebrate the anniversary of women's suffrage by making this concession to equality for women.

    A married woman may already apply for a passport in whatever surname she currently uses for all purposes. She may also request the prefix Miss, Mrs. or Ms. My right hon. Friend does not therefore consider any change is necessary.

    Washington Embassy (Personnel)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether the Counsellor (Information) on the staff of Her Majesty's Embassy, Washington, has left or is about to leave without replacement; and whether the present Director of British Information Services, New York is to leave after completing only one two-year tour.

    The answer to both questions is "Yes". The post of counsellor (information) in Washington was abolished at the end of 1977.

    Diplomatic Missions (Secretary Of States' Speeches)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what was the number of speeches given by him transmitted in the verbatim series for the use of diplomatic missions overseas in 1976 and 1977.

    When my right hon. Friend was Minister of State during 1976–77 three of his speeches and in 1977, when Secretary of State, 18 of his speeches were transmitted in the verbatim service to selected overseas posts.

    Ministers And Members Of Parliament (Pay And Pensions)

    asked the Lord President of the Council (1) whether he will refer the salaries and working conditions of hon. Members to the Boyle Committee.(2) whether he will request the Boyle Committee to consider the question of Hon. Members' salaries and pensions rights; and in the latter case to give consideration to putting their pensions on the same basis as those of civil servants.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer that I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Huddersfield, West (Mr. Lomas) on 6th June—[Vol. 951, col. 55.]

    Palace Of Westminster (Security)

    asked the Lord President of the Council how many security guards and police were on duty on Thursday 6th July in the Palace of Westminster during the afternoon period; at what costs; and whether he will give an assurance that all visitors to the public galleries were screened and searched.

    The total establishment of the security force in the Palace of Westminster is 219. This figure includes police, security officers and firemen. A proportion of this force was on duty on the afternoon of Thursday 6th July but a calculation of their salaries could he obtained only at disproportionate cost.I am writing to the hon. Member.

    Houses Of Parliament (Running Costs)

    asked the Lord President of the Council what has been the cost of running both Houses of Parliament during each year since 1974–75; and how much of this is attributable to payments to Members of both Houses.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 12th July 1978], gave the following information:

    Total cost Payments to Members of both Houses
    £000£'000
    1974–7517,2644,819
    1975–7625,6567,290
    1976–7730,5968,581
    1977–7830,6529,157

    National Finance

    Food Import Levies

    53.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total value of levies made on food imported into the United Kingdom from outside the EEC during 1977–78.

    The net amount of levies charged on food imported in 1977–78 was £179·4 million.

    Pay Policy (Talks)

    54.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he is satisfied with the latest discussions between the Government and the Trades Union Congress on pay policy for the future.

    Personal Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the cumulative increases and the average annual rates of increase in the real net income of the average industrial worker in the following periods (a) July 1945 to October 1951, (b) October 1951 to October 1964, (c) October 1964 to June 1970, (d) June 1970 to February 1974 and (e) February 1974 to July 1978.

    Increase in real net income between July 1945 and the last month of the period:
    Period(a) At June 1978 prices(b) As a percentage of the level in July 1945Average annual rate of increase in real net income during the period
    7Per cent.Per cent.
    July 1945 to October 19513·509·21·4
    October 1951 to October 196420·2052·72·6
    October 1964 to June 197022·9059·70·8
    June 1970 to March 197427·7072·22·0
    March 1974 to May 197828·8075·20·4
    Real net income is earnings plus family allowance or child benefits less income tax and national insurance contributions.Average manual earnings in July 1945 October 1951 and October 1964 are the Department of Employment's estimates of the average weekly earnings of full-time adult male manual workers. For later months, the previous April's new earnings survey estimate of the average earnings of similar workers has been updated to the appropriate month by the monthly index of average earnings. An estimate of average manual earnings in February 1974 is not available owing to the three-day week, and the figure for July 1978 is also not yet available, so figures for March 1974 and May 1978 have been used in their place.The price index used for October 1964 and later months is the general index of retail prices, all items. For earlier months the index of prices of consumer goods and services given in table 2 at the CSO publication "The Internal Purchasing Power of the Pound" has been used, taking the figure for the appropriate calendar year.It has been assumed that the employee was not contracted out of the graduated pension scheme in months from October 1964 onwards. The tax rates and allowances used for May 1978 are those contained in the Finance Bill as amended in Committee.

    Giro

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the Inland Revenue will pay a tax refund direct to the National Giro account of the taxpayer when the taxpayer concerned requests it and agrees to the National Giro receiving

    If the average industrial worker is taken to be a married man with two children under eleven years of age who earns the average manual wage, the figures are approximately as follows:the credit on his behalf for credit to his Giro account.

    Arrangements are being made between the Inland Revenue and the National Giro for tax refunds to be paid, where the taxpayer requests it, direct to his Giro account.

    Luncheon Vouchers

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why he will not increase the tax-free limit of luncheon voucher expenses from 15p to a figure equivalent at present to the value of 15p when the concession was first introduced.

    I do not think an increase would be justified. To increase the value of the concession would be unfair to the millions of workers who have the benefit neither of luncheon vouchers nor of subsidised canteens.

    National Land Fund

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will introduce legislation to implement the recommendations of the Select Committee on the National Land Fund to place the fund under the control of independent trustees.

    The Government are considering the recommendations of the Environment Sub-Committee on the National Land Fund, and a statement will be made in due course.

    Personal Taxation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the number of taxpayers paying the standard rate of income tax of 33 per cent.; what is the number of taxpayers paying the reduced rate of income tax of 25 per cent. and what is the number of taxpayers paying income tax above the standard rate of 33 per cent., in all cases counting earning wives as separate taxpayers.

    Counting married couples as one, the estimated figures for 1978–79 are:

    Single persons and married couples liable at higher rates660,000
    Single persons liable at lower rate only and married couples where husband's income is charged at lower rate2,940,000
    Other single persons and married couples, liable at the basic rate17,440,000
    Total tax units21,040,000
    The total of 25,600,000 taxpayers includes a further 4,500,000 earning wives, but there are difficulties in breaking these down by reference to their marginal rates since, except where there is an Option for separate assessment or an election for separate taxation of wife's earnings, the wife's income is included with her husband's for the purpose of assessment to income tax.

    Whisky

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total value of receipts from excise duty on Scotch whisky for 1978, 1977, 1976 and 1975.

    Net receipts of excise duty on whisky in the financial year ended 31st March 1978 were £450 million, provisional. For receipts in earlier years I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, Pentlands (Mr. Rifkind) on 3rd May.

    European Community (Invisibles Deficit)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is now the annual deficit in invisibles with the EEC.

    Balance Of Payments Outturn

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing, for each half year from the second half of 1970 to the first half of 1978 (a) the current account balance of payments outturn, (b) the contribution of North Sea oil to that outturn, (c) the contribution of North Sea gas to that out-turn, (d) the combined contribution of North Sea oil and North Sea gas to that outturn, and (e) the contribution of all other factors to that outturn.

    National Land Fund (Select Committee's Report)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has studied the report of the Select Committee on the National Land Fund; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government are considering the recommendations of the Environment Sub-Committee on the National Land Fund, and a statement will be made in due course.

    Inflation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now answer the hon. Member for Blaby's Questions on the rate of inflation which he was unable to answer on 14th July.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 19th July 1978], gave the following information:The increase in the retail prices index over the three months to June, expressed at an annual rate, was 11·7 per cent. The increase in the index over the six months to June, excluding seasonal foods, expressed at an annual rate, was 8·9 per cent.

    North Sea Oil

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much benefit he now expects to accrue to the Exchequer during 1978 deriving from North Sea oil development; and how this compares with his estimates of such benefit made during 1977.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 14th July 1978], gave the following answer:I have nothing to add to the answers I gave to the hon. Members for Mid-Sussex (Mr. Renton) and Ilford, South

    (Mr. Arnold Shaw) on 26th June 1978—[Vol. 952, c.

    450]—and 14th April 1978 respectively.

    Vessel Control

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has concluded his reconsideration of the need for a yellow flag system of vessel control; and if he is planning to reintroduce such a system before the August holiday season starts.

    National Debt

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the national debt in February 1974; and what it is currently.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18th July 1978], gave the following information:The figure of outstanding national debt is available only for 31st March in each year. The figures to the nearest available dates to those asked for are:

    National debt
    Date£ millionPercentage of G.D.P.at market prices
    31st March 197440,12555·1
    31st March 197879,083*54·8
    * Provisional.
    † In preceding financial year.

    Ministerial Appointments

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total number of paid public appointments made by him in each of the last four years as recorded in the "Directory of Paid Public Appointments made by Ministers"; and what was the total cost to the public purse of these appointments in each of these years.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 19th July 1978], gave the following information:

    EMPLOYEES IN EMPLOYMENT IN THE UNITED KINGDOM
    (000's)
    April 1972April 1978*
    Clothing (Minimum List Headings 441–449 of the Standard Industrial Classification)&&&&&&&&&362·1306·1
    Hosiery and other knitted goods (MLH 417—included in textiles below)&133·7119·7
    Textiles (MLHs 411–429)&&&&&&&598·4498·0
    * Provisional.

    My right hon. Friend appoints the chairmen of economci development committees for two-year terms. They are entitled to a fee of £1,000 per annum, but not all claim it. A few EDCs have started or terminated during the period in question, but the total number has remained at about 18. The number of appointments or reappointments that he has made in the last four financial years, and the total cost of all EDC chairmen's fees in those years, are as follows:

    Total fees

    1974–757£12,000
    1975–765£12,000
    1976–774£13,600
    1977–787£8,000

    Employment

    Working Population

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people are now in employment; and what was the comparable figure five years earlier.

    At December 1977, the number of employees in employment in the United Kingdom was 22,705,000, compared with 22,387,000 in December 1972.

    Clothing, Knitted Goods And Textiles

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many people were employed by the clothing industry in 1972; and what is the current figure to the latest convenient date;(2) how many people were employed by the knitting industry in 1972; and what is the figure to the latest convenient date;(3) how many people were employed by the United Kingdom textile industry in 1972; and what is the current figure to the latest convenient date.

    Manufacturing And Service Industries

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for each year since 1946 the number of individuals employed in (a) manufacturing industries and (b) service industries.

    Information for the years 1948–77 is shown in the table below. Comprehensive employment estimates are available only from the introduction of national insurance cards in 1948. Owing to changes in the methods of making employment estimates, the series is not fully consistent over the period, where the main discontinuity occurs two figures are given. Details of the definitions and methods used to produce the figures are given in "British Labour Statistics, Historical Abstract 1886–1968"—Appendix B and footnote to page 242-and the Department of Employment Gazette for March 1975, pp. 193–196.

    EMPLOYEES IN EMPLOYMENT IN MANUFACTURING AND SERVICE INDUSTRIES IN GREAT BRITAIN
    Thousands
    Mid-YearManufacturing industriesService industries
    19487,9308,644
    19498,0988,639
    19508,3188,698
    19518,5408,698
    19528,4778,753
    19538,5478,787
    19548,7668,924
    19559,0178,993
    19569,0849,138
    19579,0789,247
    19588,9889,258
    1959(A)8,9289,379
    1959(B)7,9029,788
    19608,2419,965
    19618,36810,177
    19628,29110,477
    19638,16110,650
    19648,28510,846
    19658,39011,036
    19668,40811,220
    19678,15211,188
    19688,07211,243
    19698,18111,242
    19708,16411,292
    19717,88611,358
    19727,61311,637
    19737,66412,063
    19747,70512,214
    19757,33412,522
    19767,09912,601
    1977*7,20512,672
    * 1977 figures are provisional.

    Notes:

    1. Her Majesty's Forces are excluded.

    2. For the period 1948–1959(A): Manufacturing comprises Orders III-XVI and Services Orders XIX-XXIV of the Standard Industrial Classification (1948).

    5. For the period 1959(B)-1977: Manufacturing comprises Orders II-XIX and Services Orders XXII-XXVII of the Standard Industrial Classification (1968).

    Dentists And Dental Technicians

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many dentists and dental technicians, respectively, are at present registered as unemployed.

    At 13th June, the numbers of unemployed people registered at employment offices in Great Britain for employment as dentists and dental technicians were 59 and 136 respectively.

    Incomes Policy

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) to what extent he has had discussions with the TUC and CBI on the groups and special cases who should be exempt from phases 3 and 4 of the Government's incomes policy; and what was the response of the organisations;(2) whether he will list the total number of groups of persons in addition to the police, Armed Services, firemen, doctors, dentists, top paid civil servants and chairmen of nationalised industries who are reckoned to be special cases and to whom the phase 4 incomes policy will not be rigidly imposed and the total or estimated numbers of workers in each group or classification.

    The Government's decision on these matters, which will be taken in the light of consultations with the TUC and CBI, will be announced shortly.

    European Community

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many work-people, broken down by trades if possible, have taken up employment in the EEC countries during each of the last three years; and if he will give similar figures for movement in the opposite direction.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that this information is not available. It is not possible for the employment service division to record accurately how many people take up employment in the other EEC States, or how many have come to the United Kingdom, because job-seekers are not obliged to use individual States' employment services.

    Norfolk

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people were in full-time employment as notified to him from the employment areas in the Norfolk, North-West parliamentary constituency at the most recent count; and what were the comparable figures in 1970 and 1974.

    Since 1971 information concerning full-time employment has been collected in the annual censuses of employment. The table below shows the numbers of employees in full-time employment in the employment office areas concerned for each year for which information is available.Corresponding figures are not available for 1974, due to difficulties which arose following the reorganisation of local government. Employment estimates for 1970 are based on counts of national insurance cards and do not distinguish between full-time and part-time employment.

    EMPLOYEES IN FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT AT JUNE EACH YEAR
    Thousands
    Kings LynnHunstantonFakenham
    197119·62·65·3
    197219·82·65·6
    197320·82·75·6
    197521·82·45·6
    197622·72·35·5

    Note: Full-time workers are defined as those normally employed for more than 30 hours per week.

    Employers (Payment Schemes)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether any bank or employer will be able to operate the same scheme of payment to their employees as that operating for the Barclays Bank employees at the Brent Cross shopping centre branch of this bank.

    As stated in my reply on 13th July, the bank's arrange- ments at its Brent Cross branch are similar to those existing in other parts of their organisation where evening and Saturday working is required, and are considered to be not inconsistent with the pay policy. If other banks or employers wish to introduce similar arrangements I hope that they will consult my officials about their proposals.

    Canvey Island (Hazardous Industrial Activities)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether, in view of the risk to residents of an accidental release of vapour in adverse weather conditions from liquefied petroleum gas tanks at the British Gas Corporation's installation at Canvey Island envisaged in page 67 of the recent Health and Safety Executive's report, he is satisfied that the storage tanks and protective bunds currently in use are of the requisite standard for safety, and that the Executive has adequate powers to require the Corporation to decommission the tanks.

    I am informed by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that the Health and Safety Executive's report states that in order to reduce the risks at the British Gas Corporation's terminal on Canvey Island significantly, it will be necessary for action to be considered to meet the suggestions of the investigating team. These suggestions include possible changes in liquefied petroleum gas storage arrangements and are at present being considered by the British Gas Corporation. The executive considers that it has adequate powers under the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act 1974 to ensure that appropriate improvements can be achieved at the terminal.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will inquire of the Health and Safety Executive what quantities of propylene are stored in the area from Stanford le Hope to Canvey Island recently investigated by them, and where; what inquiries were made during that investigation as to the number of road tanker journeys from the area carrying this material; and whether he is satisfied that the Executive has adequate powers to prevent such journeys being made on roads close to residential populations.

    I am informed by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that no propylene is stored or transported by road in the area covered by the recent Health and Safety Executive investigation; no inquiries were made as to the number of tanker journeys from the area carrying this matter; the Health and Safety Executive is satisfied that it has adequate powers under the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act 1974 to prohibit the carriage of hazardous materials by road should the circumstances justify it.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) whether he will list the quantities of liquefied gases by category and type stored in industrial installations in Thurrock and Canvey Island which were the subject of a recent investigation by the Health and Safety Executive;(2) whether he will list the names and quantities of liquefied gases stored in industrial installations within the area of Thurrock and Canvey Island recently investigated by the Health and Safety Executive.

    I am informed by the chairman of the Health and Safety Corn-mission that the principal bulk storages of liquefied gases stored in industrial installations within the area of the HSE investigation were found to be as follows:(1)

    Ammonia

  • (a) One refrigerated low-pressure storage tank, maximum capacity about 14,000 tonnes;
  • (b) One semi-refrigerated pressure storage tank, maximum capacity about 1,900 tonnes.
  • (2) Natural Gas

  • (a) Four refrigerated in-ground storage tanks, each of about 20,000 tonnes maximum capacity;
  • (b) Eight refrigerated above-ground storage tanks, six being each of about 4,000 tonnes maximum capacity, and two being each of about 1,000 tonnes maximum capacity.
  • (3) Petroleum Gas, predominantly C3 hydrocarbons, "propane".

  • (a) Four spherical pressure storage tanks, total maximum capacity about 1,600 tonnes
  • (b) Thirteen horizontal cylindrical pressure storage tanks, total maximum capacity about 1,120 tonnes.
  • (4) Petroleum Gas, predominantly C4 hydrocarbon, "butane".

  • (a) Three refrigerated low pressure storage tanks, one of about 10,000 tonnes maximum capacity and two each of about 5,000 tonnes maximum capacity.
  • (b) Eight spherical pressure storage tanks, total maximum capacity about 5,100 tonnes, one being of about 1,700 tonnes maximum capacity.
  • (c) Two horizontal cylindrical pressure storage tanks, total maximum capacity about 120 tonnes.
  • (5) Petroleum Gas, mixed hydrocarbons, "propane" and "butane".

    Three horizontal pressure storage tanks, total maximum capacity about 400 tonnes.

    (6) Petroleum Gas, dual service, either "propane" and "butane".

    One spherical pressure storage tank, maximum capacity about 900 tonnes.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment why licences have to be issued by the Essex County Council in connection with the storage of hazardous substances on Canvey Island but not in respect of the same substances in nearby Thurrock.

    The chairman of the Health and Safety Commission informs me that the premises at Canvey are licensed by Essex county council under the Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928, since petroleum-spirit and liquid methane are kept there and, consequently, the local authority may attach to any licence such conditions as they think necessary for the storage of other hazardous substances at these sites.At Thurrock, there are premises which are similarly licensed under the Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928. However, there are also at Thurrock hazardous substances which are kept at premises not subject to licensing control under the 1928 Act. The safety of these substances are covered by the provisions of the Health and Safety at Work, etc., Act 1974 and its subordinate legislation.

    Hepworth Iron Company (Industrial Dispute)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service have been called in to secure a resolution of the industrial dispute at the Hepworth Iron Co. at Crowedge in the Penistoae constituency; and, if not, what information he has on the reasons therefor.

    I understand from the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service that it has offered its assistance in this dispute and is having informal discussions with the company today.

    Leek

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people were unemployed at the most recent count in the employment areas in the Leek parliamentary constituency; and how these figures compare with those in the comparable month of 1974.

    In the area covered by the Leek, Biddulph, Cheadle and Kids-grove employment offices, which corresponds closely to the Leek parliamentary constituency, the number of people registered as unemployed at 6th July 1978 was 1,727 compared with 694 at July 1974.

    Jobcentres

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish the net cost to the Exchequer of (a) capital, and (b) running costs of the jobcentres for the last two full years.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 5th July 1978; Vol. 953, c. 159], gave the following further information:I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the amount involved in jobcentre running costs for 1977–78 was approximately £29 million. This figure comprises "on the ground" expenditure on jobcentres in 1977–78 and includes salaries and wages, staff expenses, running expenses—for example, postage, telecommunications, stationery—advertising and publicity and premises excluding depreciation.At the beginning of 1977–78 there were 297 jobcentres in operation and a further 137 opened in the course of the financial year.

    Northern Ireland

    European Community Payments

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will publish a table in the Official Report showing for each year, or if more convenient each financial year (a) the sums in the statement for Northern Ireland which were shown as Northern Ireland's share of the United Kingdom contribution to EEC funds, (b) the actual outturn in each year since the United Kingdom joined the EEC, (c) for the same periods the sums received in loans and in grants from EEC funds for projects situated in Northern Ireland and (d) the similar sums received for cross-border projects.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18th July 1978] gave the following answer:The information is as follows:(

    a) and ( b): Northern Ireland's share of United Kingdom contribution to EEC Funds:

    Financial year

    Estimate

    Outflow

    £m.

    £m.

    1972–73 (part-year)No charge was made against the Northern Ireland Consolidated Fund in respect of United Kingdom contributions.
    1973–74
    1974–757·15·5
    1975–768·08·6
    1976–7710·012·0
    (provisional)
    1977–7824·022·5
    (provisional)

    ( c) Sums allocated to Northern Ireland from EEC funds:

    Calendar year

    (i)

    (ii)

    (iii)

    (iv)

    ERDF

    ESF

    FEOGA

    Total

    £m.

    £m.

    £m.

    £m.

    1973

    *

    4·11·75·8
    1974

    *

    4·32·26·5
    19757·56·33·016·8
    19766·98·81·717·4
    19778·810·82·221·8
    1978 (to date)3·72·10·56·3
    TOTAL26·936·411·374·6

    * Fund not in operation.

    In addition EIB loans were obtained in 1974 for Short Bros and Harland Ltd. and in 1977 for the GPO totalling £2·5 million and £18·5 million respectively, and a further loan of £150,000 was made to Arnz Betting Co. Ltd., Londonderry, out of a global loan from the EIB to the Industrial and Commercial Finance Corporation.

    ( d) The only money received from the EEC for cross-border projects was a grant of £17,500 representing 50 per cent. of the cost of the Londonderry-Donegal Cross Border Communication Study.

    Notes:

    1. Annual receipts from EEC funds may differ from sums shown as being allocated at ( c) above. as payments are made in arrears of expenditure.

    2. The sums shown at ( c) above are those directly allocated to Northern Ireland, no estimate can be made of Northern Ireland's share of receipts in respect of United Kingdom schemes, including intervention arrangements.

    3. In the above answer:

    ERDF is the European Regional Development Fund.

    ESF is the European Social Fund.

    FEOGA is the European Agriculturary Guarantee and Guidance Fund.

    EIB is the European Investment Bank.

    1981 Census

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland why it has been decided to make separate arrangements for the 1981 census in Northern Ireland; how these arrangements will differ from those in the rest of the United Kingdom; how they will differ from the arrangements for the 1971 census in Northern Ireland; whether the questions for Northern Ireland for the 1981 census will include questions about country of birth, nationality or ethnic grouping, religious affiliation or ability to speak or write Irish Gaelic; and when he expects that an announcement will be made about the arrangements for the 1981 census in Northern Ireland.

    It has always been the practice in Northern Ireland to have separate arrangements for a census. Northern Ireland currently conducts its census under the Census Act (Northern Ireland) 1969 which empowers the Registrar General of Northern Ireland to conduct a census as the registrars general of England and Wales and Scotland similarly do under their own legislative authority.Arrangements for the 1981 census will be similar to those in 1971 and in the remainder of the United Kingdom. The proposed questions will include country of birth and nationality and a voluntary question on religion. It is not proposed to ask questions on ethnic origin or ability to write or speak Irish Gaelic.An announcement has already been made on 14th July 1978 by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State, the hon. Member for Liverpool, Kirkdale (Mr. Dunn), stating that, in common with most other EEC countries and other parts of the United Kingdom, it is proposed to hold the census on 5th April 1981.

    Social Services

    Toxicologists

    57.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in view of the serious shortage of consultant toxicologists within the Government service, and the resulting danger of faulty decisions seriously affecting the food industry, he will take steps to remedy the situation.

    The shortage of consultant toxicologists is not confined to the Government service, nor, indeed, to this country. Nevertheless, every endeavour is being made to increase and improve the service available to Government.The medical and scientific staff concerned with toxicological matters in my Department has already been strengthened In addition, arrangements have been completed within the National Health Service for a scheme for training to consultant level doctors who wish to specialise in toxicology. The training will be integrated with teaching facilities in pathology. Steps are being taken to recruit suitable doctors to undertake this training, in the expectation that they will ultimately seek posts on the staff of the Department.In addition to the work of the doctors and scientists already in the Department, we have the benefit of the advice of a number of committees of independent experts. One of these is predominantly concerned with aspects of food toxicity, and we are in process of appointing additional members to it. The advice of this expert committee is sent to the Food Additives and Contaminants Committee, whose recommendations are published for public comment before final decisions are reached on them.

    Hospital Staff (North Staffordshire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many consultants, doctors and nurses were employed in National Health Service hospitals in North Staffordshire area in 1950, 1960, 1970, 1975 and at the latest available date.

    Limited information is available as follows:

    • Consultants—83·9 (at 28th February 1978).
    • Medical Assistants—8·0 (at 28th February 1978).
    • Senior Registrars—20·0 (at 28th February 1978).
    • Junior Medical Staff—149·1 (at 30th September 1975).
    • Junior Medical Staff—147·3 (at 30th September 1977).
    • Nurses—1868 (at 30th September 1970).
    • Nurses—2611 (at 30th September 1975).
    • Nurses—2738 (at 30th September 1977).
    All figures relate to whole-time equivalents.

    Mentally Handicapped Persons (Lancashire)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans there are to build an adult training centre and hostel for the mentally handicapped in Ormskirk; and what steps are being taken to improve and extend facilities for the mentally handicapped in the Ormskirk area.

    Lancashire county council has no plans at present to increase the facilities for the mentally handicapped in the Ormskirk area.Present provision is as follows:

    • Adult Training Centre with 60 places.
    • Home for Mentally Handicapped children with 18 places.
    • Home for Mentally Handicapped adults with 31 places.

    Lancashire county council gives priority to remedying deficiencies in mental handicap services in other parts of the county before making further improvements in Ormskirk. The county is in general making good progress in the development of its services for the mentally handicapped and has a higher ratio of places to population than the national average.

    Benefits (Industrial Disputes)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of his staff are involved in a full-or part-time capacity in dealing with applications for benefits from striking British Leyland press shop operators at

    ExistingUnder constructionPlanned
    Bury711
    Rochdale41

    Geriatric Cases (Greater Manchester)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many geriatric cases are awaiting admission to hospitals in the county district of the

    Area health authorityHospitalNumbers waiting under 3 monthsNumbers waiting 3 to 6 monthsNumbers waiting 6 to 12 monthsNumbers waiting 1 to 2 years
    WiganAtherleigh (30th April 1978)25
    BoltonBolton General (31st May 1978)272333
    Bury—No waiting list for admission.
    Rochdale—No waiting list for admission.
    SalfordLadywell (31st May 1978)762053
    OldhamOldham and District (30th June 1978)21
    TraffordBridgewater (30th June 1978)311282
    StockportStepping Hill (31st March 1978)13143424
    TamesideTameside General (31st March 1978)36
    Manchester(31st May 1978)95691

    Note:

    Area Health Authority areas are identical with those of the metropolitan districts.

    Swindon; and what is the cost to public funds.

    Several officers were involved full-time or part-time in dealing with claims to benefit during the dispute and it is estimated that about 32 days' work was done overall. The officers concerned were already employed so there was no additional public expenditure for extra staff but the staff cost of dealing with the claims was about £700 in salary and other charges.

    Health Centres (Bury And Rochdale)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy with regard to the future provision of health centres in the Bury and Rochdale metropolitan county district.

    Because of their importance to the improvement of primary health care services, particularly in health deprived areas, I encourage the development of health centres by giving them high priority in capital allocations to all regional health authorities. It is for health authorities, in consultation with the appropriate local people, to draw up their own health centre programmes. The existing and planned health centre provision in Bury and Rochdale area health authorities is as follows:

    Under constructionPlanned
    11
    1
    Greater Manchester county; and how long they have been waiting for admission.

    Psycho-Geriatric Patients

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, how many patients requiring psycho-geriatric places have still to be placed; how many have currently been placed; and if he is satisfied with the position in the Walsall area.

    National figures are not available. The figures for the Walsall area are 37 and 140 respectively. On the last part of the Question, I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to him on 13th July.

    Attendance Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, what is the number of residents in the Lothian region claiming attendance allowance.

    I regret that the information requested is not available in relation to the Lothian region. In the whole of Scotland at 31st December 1977, there were 11,790 people receiving attendance allowance at the higher rate and 12,430 receiving it at the lower rate.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will review current policy which precludes those who otherwise qualify for attendance allowance from receiving payment if they are residents in scheduled accommodation.

    Hearing Aids (Spectacle Modifications)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received about the problems created for spectacle-wearers by the new behind-the-ear hearing aids; and if spectacle modification, required as a consequence of the new hearing aid, especially for pensioners, will be freely available under the National Health Service.

    I have received one such representation. The instructions supplied with NHS hearing aids suggest that, provided wearers put on their glasses before fitting on their hearing aids, few will experience discomfort or need even minor spectacle modifications. My Department is prepared to look into any case of difficulty.

    Family Income Supplement

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what was the total amount paid out in family income supplement in the last week for which figures are available; and what was the size of the median payment;(2) how many people were in receipt of family income supplement at the last date for which figures are available.

    I regret that the information is not available in the precise form requested. However, at the end of April 1978, 96,000 families were receiving family income supplement, with an average weekly payment of £5·58; and on this basis the total amount payable for the last week in April would have been about £536,000.

    Benefit Frauds (Convictions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list, for each year since 1945, the number of convictions for national insurance benefit frauds and related instrument of payment offences.

    The number of convictions for national insurance benefit frauds and related instrument of payment offences is as follows:

    19651,783
    19662,079
    19671,979
    19682,320
    19692,517
    19703,141
    19713,839
    19724,502
    19734,059
    19744,375
    19754,939
    19766,448
    19778,189
    The figures for previous years could be provided—if at all—only by disproportionate effort.

    Hospital Beds (Essex)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many hospital beds are at present unused in Essex owing to lack of funds; and which districts are involved in each case;(2) if he will make a statement on the cuts made in the Harlow health district to make retrospective economies in expenditure in 1978; and if he will indicate any steps which have now been taken to restore the services which suffered.

    In the Harlow district, a 12-bed gynaecology ward at the Herts and Essex hospital was closed. Funds are now available and, following a survey of bed occupancy of surgical beds at this hospital, it has been decided that this ward should re-open on 1st September as a five-day female surgical ward. In the Chelmsford district 49 beds, in the Southend district 82 beds and in the Thurrock district six beds are unused

    Cigarettes (Advertising)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the advertisement advertising State Express, a copy of which has been sent to him by the hon. Member for Brent, South, contravenes the agreement that a health warning should be included.

    The advertisement to which my hon. Friend refers, not being a cigarette advertisement, does not require a health warning under the terms of the voluntary agreement between my Department and the industry.

    Medical Staff-In-Patients Ratio

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, for each year since 1948, he will list the ratio of medical staff to in-patients in the National Health Service.

    Following are the ratios of all medical staff to in-patients in

    TOTAL AVERAGE EARNINGS PER DENTIST FROM THE N.H.S. GENERAL DENTAL SERVICES (ENGLAND AND WALES
    Monthly average
    ££
    Six months ending 31st March 19779,4471,575
    Six months ending 31st March 19789,1391,523

    National Health Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he now expects to restore the National Health Service to its original concept, as practised at its inception, of free treatment on all occasions for all medical services.

    I have nothing to add to my right hon. Friend's reply to my hon. National Health Service hospitals in England and Wales based on the number of in-patient episodes:

    19491:250
    19501:245
    19511:243
    19521:245
    19531:252
    19541:249
    19551:245
    19561:243
    19571:242
    19581:244
    19591:250
    19601:249
    19611:252
    19621:250
    19631:255
    19641:258
    19651:255
    19661:251
    19671:246
    19681:243
    19691:240
    19701:236
    19711:231
    19721:222
    19731:208
    19741:204
    19751:186
    19761:191

    Dentists (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average total sum scheduled for payment to each dentist in the National Health Service for each of the first six months of 1978; and what were the equivalent figures for 1977.

    Information is not available in the form requested.The latest available figures are set out in the following table:Friend on 22nd March.—[Vol. 946, c.

    615]

    Mobility Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many people living in Cleveland applied for mobility allowance in each of the past three years;(2) how many people living in North Yorkshire have applied for a mobility allowance in each of the past three years;

    (3) how many applications for mobility allowance from people living in Cleveland were rejected in each of the past three years;

    (4) how many applications for mobility allowance from people living in North Yorkshire were rejected in each of the past three years;

    (5) how many appeals to the medical board or medical appeals tribunal were made by people living in Cleveland after a mobility allowance application had been rejected in each of the past three years;

    (6) how many appeals to the medical board or medical appeals tribunal were made by people living in North Yorkshire after a mobility allowance application had been rejected in each of the past three years;

    (7) how many successful appeals were made to the medical board or medical appeals tribunal by people in North Yorkshire seeking a mobility allowance for each of the past three years;

    Northern Region

    Yorkshire and Humberside Region

    Date

    Awards current

    Disallowances

    Awards current

    Disallowances

    14th July 19761,3684942,238722
    11th July 19773,0241,5045,0072,168
    10th July 19784,2312,6247,3424,092

    On a national basis, about 111,000 claims have been decided since the scheme began, with about 73,000 awards (65 per cent.) Of nearly 5,700 appeals heard by medical boards and medical appeal tribunals throughout the country, some 1,600 (28 per cent.) were successful.

    Agency Doctors

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will state the cost to the National Health Service of using agency doctors in the latest year for which figures are available.

    I regret that the information is not available since many doctors introduced to hospitals by agencies serve on the normal terms for locums and the accounts do not separately identify payments made to agencies for doctors employed by them, or the salaries of these locums.

    Hospital Beds (Norfolk)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many hospital beds there were in the Norfolk, North-West parliamentary constituency in each of the past five years.

    (8) how many successful appeals were made to the medical board or medical appeals tribunal by people in Cleveland seeking a mobility allowance for each of the past three years.

    I regret that this information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.Cumulative statistics have been kept since the introduction of the mobility allowance scheme in January 1976, on a regional basis for awards and disallowances, and on a national basis for claims and appeals. The latest available information for the Northern and Yorkshire and Humberside regions—which include the areas of Cleveland and North Yorkshire—with corresponding information for equivalent dates in the preceding years is set out below. The figures are affected by the phased take-on of claims which has now reached almost three-quarters of the expected final figure.

    The total numbers of hospital beds in the Norfolk, North-West parliamentary constituency were as follows:

    Year ending 30th September:
    1973496
    1974514
    1975516
    1976525
    1977525

    Vaccine-Damaged Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now revise the scheme to help vaccine-damaged children in order to cover cases where permanent damage was caused, but attendance and mobility allowance is not being paid; and if he will make a statement about this and other aspects of the schemes.

    In his statement to the House on 9th May—[Vol. 949, c. 973–5]—my right hon. Friend made it clear that receipt of attendance or mobility allowance would not be the exclusive criterion of severe damage. Details of the scheme are still being worked out, but we hope to be able to make a further announcement before the recess.

    Speech Therapy

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what study he has made of the amount of time given to the study of speech and language disorders in children and adults in the training of members of the para-medical professions; and what conclusions he has reached.

    None. The training of members of para-medical professions is the responsibility of bodies independent of my Department and I have therefore not undertaken any special study of the matters outlined.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what study he has made of the amount of time given to the nature and problems of speech and language disorders in children and adults in the training of doctors; and what conclusions he has reached.

    I have not undertaken any special study of the matters outlined. The content of undergraduate education does not fall within the responsibilities of my Department, but, under the normal arrangements for postgraduate medical education in the National Health Service, provision may be made for doctors to attend courses on any subject for which there is a need.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what study he has made of the amount of time given to the study of speech and language disorders in children and adults in the training of nurses; and what conclusions he has reached.

    None. The training of nurses is the responsibility of the nurse training bodies. Speech and language disorders are included in basic and post-basic nurse training as symptoms or evidence of other disorders but are not taught as separate topics.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of the resources of the National Health Service is devoted to the provision of speech therapy services for children and adults.

    The amount of revenue expenditure in the financial year 1976–1977 devoted to the provision of speech therapy services for children and adults in England was about £5·6 million. This represents just under 0·2 per cent. of total revenue expenditure on hospital and community services in that year.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many adults there are in Great Britain with speech and language disorders; how many of this number have speech disorders of a neurological nature; and how many of this number are over the age of 68 years, and between 18 to 65 years.

    Information is not collected on the numbers of people in the population with speech or language disorders. The Quirk report, published in 1972, in making recommendations for the future level of speech therapy services, made a number of assumptions about the size of various categories of adult patients and the demand they placed on the speech therapy services. It concluded that at that time there were about 40,000 adults in Great Britain in need of speech therapy.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average waiting period for an adult patient requiring speech therapy for a consultation and treatment.

    No figures are collected on the waiting period for patients requiring speech therapy.It would not be possible to arrive at a meaningful figure for average waiting time since this will vary according to the urgency of the condition and between one area and another according to number of speech therapists available and competing demands on their services.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is the authorised establishment of speech therapists in each regional health authority and in each area health authority; and how many of these posts are currently filled;(2) what is the authorised establishment of speech therapists in the community health service and in the hospital service.

    There are no nationally agreed staffing levels for speech therapy services, nor is information available centrally on the establishments authorised, but unfilled, by area or regional health authorities. The number of speech therapists in post at 30th September 1976, the latest date for which information is available, is as follows:

    SPEECH THERAPISTS IN POST (WHOLE TIME EQUIVALENTS) AT SEPTEMBER 1976 (ENGLAND)
    Northern Regional Health Authority
    Cleveland5·7
    Cumbria10·2
    Durham7·6
    Northumberland4·0
    Gateshead3·0
    Newcastle-upon-Tyne10·6
    North Tyneside3·6
    South Tyneside1·8
    Sunderland4·3
    Total50·5
    Yorkshire Regional Health Authority
    Humberside14·1
    North Yorkshire15·4
    Bradford13·7
    Calderdale4·4
    Kirklees9·7
    Leeds20·3
    Wakefield6·2
    Total83·8
    Trent Regional Health Authority
    Derbyshire17·2
    Leicestershire20·3
    Lincolnshire9·7
    Nottinghamshire21·5
    Barnsley3·0
    Doncaster2·8
    Rotherham1·1
    Sheffield14·9
    Total90·9
    East Anglia Regional Health Authority
    Cambridgeshire24·4
    Norfolk20·4
    Suffolk13·2
    Total58·0
    North-West Thames Regional Health Authority
    Bedfordshire14·9
    Hertfordshire30·0
    Barnet8·2
    Brent/Harrow13·8
    Ealing/Hammersmith/Hounslow15·8
    Hillingdon5·4
    Kensington and Chelsea/Westminster10·6
    Total98·7

    North-East Thames Regional Health Authority

    Essex31·4
    Barking/Havering6·0
    Camden/Islington14·9
    City and East London31·0
    Enfield/Haringey13·5
    Redbridge/Waltham Forest14·4
    Total111·2

    South-East Thames Regional Health Authority

    East Sussex22·3
    Kent34·8
    Green wich/Bexley19·8
    Bromley7·5
    Lambeth/Lewisham/South wark32·7
    Total117·1

    South-West Thames Regional Health Authority

    Surrey28·2
    West Sussex13·4
    Croydon10·3
    Kingston/Richmond13·5
    Merton/Sutton/Wandsworth18·3
    Total84·0

    Wessex Regional Health Authority

    Dorset10·6
    Hampshire24·0
    Wiltshire19·8
    Isle of Wight3·0
    Total57·4

    Oxford Regional Health Authority

    Berkshire28·0
    Buckinghamshire17·6
    Northamptonshire8·0
    Oxfordshire16·4
    Total70·0

    South-Western Regional Health Authority

    Avon30·2
    Cornwall and Isles of Scilly8·8
    Devon23·7
    Gloucestershire13·8
    Somerset9·2
    Total85·7

    Mersey Regional Health Authority

    Cheshire26·3
    Liverpool12·8
    St. Helens/Knowsley1·0
    Sefton4·8
    Wirral6·3
    Total51·2

    West Midlands Regional Health Authority

    Hereford and Worcester21·9
    Salop17·2
    Staffordshire14·8
    Warwickshire9·9
    Birmingham26·8
    Coventry11·3
    Dudley7·4
    Sandwell8·5
    Solihull5·4
    Walsall11·0
    Wolverhampton2·4
    Total136·6

    North Western Regional Health Authority

    Lancashire19·2
    Bolton2·4
    Bury3·0
    Manchester24·6
    Oldham3·9
    Rochdale0·3
    Salford3·7
    Stockport7·5
    Tameside3·2
    Trafford3·0
    Wigan1·6
    Total72·4

    Darryn Clarke

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now institute an official inquiry into the handling of the Darryn Clarke case.

    I have now seen the reports on this case by the Liverpool city council and the Liverpool area health authority (teaching). I agree with the view expressed on all sides that an independent inquiry should be held. I am arranging for urgent discussions with the authorities concerned on how this should be conducted.

    St John's Hospital, Uxbridge (Food Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is aware that long-stay patients at St. John's hospital, Uxbridge, receive only 2 oz of sugar, ½oz of tea, 1 oz of butter and one teaspoon of coffee per day and that total expenditure on food for these patients amounts to only '78p per day; and if he will consider what steps can be taken to improve the quantity of food supplies for these elderly constituents of the hon. Member for Hillingdon, Uxbridge.

    As I indicated in my reply to the hon. Member on 25th May 1978 —[Vol. 950, c. 713]—the provision of adequate food supplies to hospital inpatients is a matter for the responsible health authority. I understand from the Hillingdon area health authority that the quantities of food quoted relate to supplies issued to wards at St. John's hospital, Uxbridge, in addition to meals provided by the catering department; other items issued include a variety of milk drinks. The expenditure per day and the quantities quoted are broadly in line with departmental guidance.

    Doctors (Back Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if interest will be payable on back pay for general practitioners for the period 1st April until the date that the first payment is made at the same rate charged by the Inland Revenue on late payments of income tax;(2) when the first payment will be made implementing the recent pay award for general practitioners backdated to 1st April.

    Interest is not paid in respect of arrears of remuneration, it is also not charged on advances of remuneration made on account, or in cases where an adjustment leads to a decrease in remuneration with retrospective effect.I understand that many family practitioner committees are likely to implement the recent increases in remuneration at the end of this month, but some will not be able to do this until later in the quarter. The circular authorising committees to make payments at the new rates was issued on 4th July; it involves considerable work for committees because almost all the fees and allowances have been changed.

    Death Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he now has to review the level of the death grant; and if he will make a statement.

    The rate of the death grant is considered each time the rates of benefits generally are reviewed. However, the rate of the grant is only one of many matters competing for available resources, and the Government consider that priority must be given to improving pensions and other weekly maintenance benefits and the provision for families and the disabled.

    Nasal Cancer (Footwear Industry)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received from the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council about nasal cancer in workers in the leather boot and shoe industry; and if he will make a statement.

    I am pleased to tell my hon. Friend that the Government intend to prescribe nasal carcinoma in workers engaged in the manufacture or repair of leather boots and shoes as an industrial disease for industrial injuries benefits under the Social Security Act 1975. I have accepted a recommendation to this effect by the council following its consideration of the results of independent research into the incidence of this disease in the footwear industry. The necessary

    NUMBER OF GERIATRIC BEDS: CHESHIRE AREA HEALTH AUTHORITY
    Health districtHospitalCurrent bed numbersBeds planned to close within five yearsExtra beds planned within five years
    ChesterCrossley68*
    Chester City120
    West Cheshire86
    Ellesmere Port58
    Total274*
    CreweLeighton67
    Barony7421
    Arclid230*
    Davenham14*
    Grange84*
    Total469*
    HaltonCrossley57†‡
    Crow Wood20
    Dutton22
    Halton20
    Warrington General22
    Total141
    MacclesfieldWest Park4115
    Moss Lane24
    Cranford Lodge54
    West Heath44
    Congleton28
    Total16343
    WarringtonWarrington General165
    Dutton22
    Total187
    Note:
    * Number of beds to close not yet determined
    † Number of extra beds not yet determined
    ‡ Some of the beds at Crossley Hospital currently used by Chester residents will in future be allocated Halton Health District

    amending regulations will be made as soon as possible.

    Geriatric Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many geriatric beds are available in each district of the Cheshire area health authority at the latest date for which figures are available; where they are located; which are supported by full medical and other facilities; how many, if any, are planned for closure, and where; how many extra beds will become available in the next five years and where; and what is the estimate for the population over 75 years of age in each district currently and in five and 10 years time, respectively.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 26th May 1978; Vol. 950, c. 801–3], gave the following information:

    Of these hospitals which currently have geriatric beds, Chester City, West Cheshire, Leighton, Halton, Warrington General and West Park are district general hospitals with a full range of medical and other facilities. Grange, Davenham, Crow Wood Dutton, Moss Lane and West Heath are community hospitals with more limited facilities and Arclid,

    1976 Estimate (thousands)

    1986 Projection (thousands)

    Chester*7·78·8
    Crewe11·213·0
    Halton4·66·1
    Macclesfield9·010·7
    Warrington6·78·6

    * Excludes Neston which is managed as part of Wirral Southern Health District.

    Projections for 1983 and 1988 are available only for the Cheshire area as a whole (including Neston) and are 48,200 and 53,000 respectively.

    Hospital Capital Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give figures showing at 1978 survey prices the total amounts devoted to hospital capital expenditure for each of the years from 1946 to 1977 inclusive.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 13th July 1978] gave the following information:The table below shows capital expenditure incurred in England on National Health Service hospital building work, including fees and equipment purchased centrally but excluding acquisition of land and building, from the initial accounting period of the National Health Service to 1973–74, together with capital expenditure for the years 1974–75 to 1976–77 assessed on a broadly comparable basis. Expenditure figures are given at 1977 survey prices, the latest public expenditure survey price level currently available.

    Year1977 Survey prices
    £ million
    1948–49 (part)33
    1949–5052
    1950–5152
    1951–5254
    1952–5340
    1953–5437
    1954–5548
    1955–5648
    1956–5756
    1957–5871
    1958–5981

    Barony, Crossley and Cranford Lodge have geriatric beds only.

    Information on population is not available in the precise form requested. The latest (1976) estimates of the population aged 75 and over in each health district, together with projections for 1986 are as follows:

    1959–6079
    1960–61105
    1961–62133
    1962–63131
    1963–64200
    1964–65224
    1965–66246
    1966–67262
    1967–68305
    1968–69311
    1969–70327
    1970–71361
    1971–72421
    1972–73472
    1973–74438
    1974–75405
    1975–76379
    1976–77338

    Hospital Waiting Lists (Wigan)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the average waiting time that people living in the Wigan metropolitan borough area have to wait before they can receive treatment in the various specialities which are available in the hospitals which service the area, giving, in each case, the time for out-patients and in-patients, and how these figures compares with regional and national averages.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18th July 1978], gave the following information:Averages are misleading as waiting times for admission vary according to the circumstances of the individual case and patients requiring emergency treatment are admitted without delay. On 30th September 1977, the numbers of patients awaiting admission to hospitals in the Wigan area health authority, in the north western region and in England were as follows:

    WAITING LISTS FOR NON-URGENT IN-PATIENT TREATMENT

    Wigan Area Health Authority

    North Western Region

    England

    Specialty

    Total

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Number waiting more than 1 year

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Total

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Number waiting more than 1 year

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Total

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Number waiting more than 1 year

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Geriatrics180·064280·10180·0043,4130·072990·01
    General Surgery9513·07870·2815,2083·724,8421·18152,7243·2944,9000·97
    Ear, Nose and Throat9903·201440·4612,4053·033,5480·8794,8142·0423,8660·51
    Traumatic and Orthopaedic3001·00170·059,7852·393,6220·8891,3011·9726,7510·58
    Ophthalmology4061·31150·054,3521·066550·1634,4710·745,5390·12
    Urology630·202,0950·506340·1517,9920·394,8740·10
    Plastic Surgery760·242,9300·721,5610·3836,4670·7919,7020·42
    Dental Surgery160·051,6950·414370·1123,6280·514,6550·10
    Gynaecology5991·932010·659,3822·302,1200·5271,4021·5410,2180·22
    Total3,41911·034641·5058,28014·2517,4374·26526,21211·34140,8043·03

    WAITING LISTS FOR URGENT IN-PATIENT TREATMENT

    Wigan Area Health Authority

    North Western Region

    England

    Specialty

    Total

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Number waiting more than 1 month

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Total

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Number waiting more than 1 month

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Total

    Rate per 1,000 population

    Number waiting more than 1 month

    Rate per 1,000 population

    General Surgery230·0790·035450·132200·058,9690·195,3880·15
    Ear, Nose and Throat380·12230·072360·061430·033,3780·072,1720·05
    Traumatic and Orthopaedic480·15290·104720·113340·088,8040·196,8350·15
    Ophthalmology100·0330·013780·103360·082,1540·051,5420·03
    Urology50·024950·123630·093,1990·072,2990·05
    Gynaecology370·12100·033530·081260·033,9650·082,0440·04
    Total1610·52740·242,4790·601,5220·3730,4690·6520,2800·45

    There are no waiting lists for general medicine or paediatrics within the Wigan area health authority Information about waiting times for out-patient appointments is not collected centrally.

    Health Services (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will publish a table showing the total current and capital expenditure per head of population in real terms on health services in each of the regional health authorities in each year since reorganisation, showing the percentage change up or down each year in each case.

    Expenditure per head of population at 1977 survey pricesPercentage change
    Regional Health Authority1974–751975–761976–771974–75 to 1975–761975–76 to 1976–77
    £££Per cent.Per cent.
    Northern97·5599·90101·87+2·4+2·0
    Yorkshire95·8399·75100·20+4·1+0·5
    Trent88·8593·3195·43+5·0+2·3
    East Anglia94·9897·8197·19+3·0-0·6
    North-West Thames119·29121·87119·68+2·2-1·8
    North-East Thames122·06121·30122·27-0·6+0·8
    South-East Thames114·74120·73121·29+5·2+0·5
    South-West Thames117·34122·23120·22+4·2-1·6
    Wessex94·0096·8697·74+3·0+0·9
    Oxford100·0298·6497·52-1·4-1·1
    South Western98·6798·70100·15+1·5
    West Midlands91·4494·7894·10+3·7-0·7
    Mersey106·64109·28110·25+2·5+0·9
    North Western98·52101·84103·63+3·4+1·8

    Notes:

    1. Regional health authority expenditure does not include expenditure by postgraduate Boards of Governors situated in the Thames Regions and their expenditure has not been included in the calculations.

    2. The costs per head of population are influenced by the payment where appropriate of London Weighting allowances to staff and by the incidence of additional expenditure in the provision of facilities for clinical teaching of medical and dental students.

    3. The population figures that have been used are mid-year estimates of resident population. No adjustments have been made for people resident in one region who receive treatment in another, or for differences in morbidity and age/sex structure of regional populations.

    Scotland

    Animals (Transit)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what additional safeguards, if any, he has introduced or proposes to introduce to prevent hardship to animals in transit; what representations he has received on the subject of hardship to animals in transit; and what replies he has sent.

    There are at present several regulations in force governing the welfare of livestock in transit by road, rail, sea or air, and the need for improvements in existing safeguards is being considered. When, from time to time, representations (which are usually in general rather than specific terms) are

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report 17th July 1978; Vol. 954 c. 98], gave the following information:The table below shows the total current and capital expenditure on health services per head of population in each regional health authority, expressed at constant (1977 Public Expenditure Survey) prices for those financial years since reorganisation for which final accounts are currently available, together with the percentage changes in real terms.Received, replies appropriate in their content are sent.

    Crofts And Farms

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many de-crofting schemes (a) in Argyll and (b) in Scotland have been carried out under the aegis of the Crofting Commission since its inception.

    From 1955 to June 1976, the de-crofting was vested in the Secretary of State. The responsibility was transferred to the Crofters Commission on 10th June 1976 under the Crofting Reform (Scotland) Act 1976. Since 1955, 69 whole crofts in Argyll, out of a total of 551 within the crofting counties, have been removed from crofting tenure by direction of the Secretary of State or the Crofters Commission.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many landholdings other than crofts (a) in Argyll and (b) in Scotland have been amalgamated in order to create larger units since 1945.

    This information is not available from my Department's records.

    DRAFT HOUSING ACTION AREA RESOLUTIONS AS AT 30TH JUNE 1978
    Number of draft ResolutionsNumber of Houses
    Local authorityDemolitionImprovementDemolition and improvementTotalTo be demolishedTo be improvedTotal
    Grampian
    Gordon111212
    Aberdeen71826176202
    Banff & Buchan558181
    Tayside
    Angus131146283289
    Dundee155112747301,004
    Perth & Kinross21611935141176
    Fife
    Kirkcaldy911023425448
    Dunfermline11256974
    Lothian
    West Lothian112226789
    Edinburgh5333419103,6704,580
    East Lothian776666
    Midlothian22116116
    Central
    Clackmannan51637275
    Stirling112138179187
    Falkirk161816259275
    Strathclyde
    Dumbarton112263359
    Glasgow1018611883,9869,62513,611
    Strathkelvin11231013
    Monklands11102102
    Hamilton55118118
    Eastwood221616
    Lanark11251540
    Renfrew134184361
    Inverclyde55269269
    Cunninghame821013248180
    Kyle & Carrick779696
    East Kilbride111010
    Clydebank11110782892
    Motherwell228989
    Argyll1199
    Dumfries & Galloway
    Annandale & Eskdale112020
    Nithsdale111010
    Western Isles
    Islands Area3232329329
    Total126268214155,74617,85223,598

    Housing Action Areas

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a table updating his answer to the Question from the hon. Member for Edinburgh, Central of 20th July 1977 concerning housing action areas.

    DRAFT HOUSING ACTION AREA RESOLUTIONS AS AT 30TH JUNE 1978

    Number of Final Resolutions

    Number of Houses

    Local authority

    Demolition

    Improvement

    Demolition and improvement

    Total

    To be demolished

    To be improved

    Total

    Grampian

    Gordon111212
    Aberdeen66129129
    Banff & Buchan221818

    Tayside

    Angus11011211238249
    Dundee1225250333583
    Perth & Kinross141654853

    Fife

    Kirkcaldy61723209232
    Dunfermline11256974

    Lothian

    West Lothian112226789
    Edinburgh3303367133,5374,250
    East Lothian665656

    Central

    Clackmannan31435962
    Stirling91102130132
    Falkirk141616254270

    Strathclyde

    Dumbarton113333
    Glasgow846511503,4687,07010,538
    Monklands119898
    Hamilton333131
    Eastwood221616
    Lanark11251540
    Renfrew111818
    Inverclyde33226226
    Cunninghame61710917126
    Kyle & Carrick779696
    East Kilbride111010

    Dumfries & Galloway

    Annandale & Eskdale112020
    Nithsdale111010

    Western Isles

    Islands Area1515133133
    Total100184152994,68312,92117,604

    Legal Aid (Criminal Courts)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many accused persons applied for legal aid in criminal courts; how many applications were approved; and what was the total cost in each of the last three years.

    The information as to applications and costs is as follows:

    Applications consideredNumber grantedCost £m.
    1975–7631,52625,8252·096
    1976–7738,01429,9622·800
    1977–78*35,35532,3714·022
    * Provisional figures.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many accused persons in receipt of legal aid in criminal courts tendered initial pleas of not guilty and altered their pleas to guilty up to the point at which the Crown case was opened in their trials in each of the last three years.

    I regret that the precise information requested on changes of plea is not available. Information from the sheriff courts shows that a significant number of accused persons who have pled "not guilty" at the pleading diet and who have applied for and been granted legal aid subsequently change their plea to "guilty" at or before the trial diet.

    Argentina (Secretary Of State's Visit)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total number of days spent by him in Argentina during the World Cup between 1st to 25th June; what was the total cost of this stay, including air fares, for him and his official party; how many official engagements he carried out during that time; and what was the nature of these engagements.

    I visited Argentina from 9th to 13th June; the cost, including air fares and the expenses of one accompanying official, was about £3,400. In addition to attending Scotland's match against Holland and giving a reception for the Scottish team I made courtesy calls on Argentinian Ministers responsible for staging the World Cup competition; attended a British Legion reception to mark the birthday of Her Majesty The Queen; carried out engagements to meet members of the British community in Argentina; and had discussions with British Embassy staff.

    Hospital Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the income from pay beds in National Health Service hospitals in Scotland in each of the last five years.

    For the latest five years for which statistics are available the information is:

    1972–73£477,465
    1973–74£527,447
    1974–75£536,749
    1975–76£449,365
    1976–77£481,128

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many beds were available in National Health Service hospitals in Scotland in each of the last five years.

    The average numbers of available staffed beds in NHS hospitals in Scotland in each of the last five years were as follows:

    To 30th September 197362,121
    To 30th September 197461,850
    To 30th September 197560,705
    To 30th September 197660,032
    To 30th September 197759,367
    The figures reflect the general trend towards shorter duration of stay in hospital which has been assisted by the provision of new accommodation and facilities in place of a larger number of beds in smaller, fragmented units. As a result, the service has been able to treat more patients in fewer beds.

    School Leavers (Certificate Of Education)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many pupils left school at the age of 16 years with ordinary passes in the certificate of education expressed as a percentage of the total number of leavers at the age of 16 years in each of the last four years.

    The table below gives the required figures for leavers with one or more SCE 'O' grades, A-C awards (corresponding since 1973 to the former pass level) and D-E awards being shown separately. Figures for session 1977–78 are not yet available.

    QUALIFIED SCHOOL LEAVERS AGED 16 HOLDING "O" GRADES AS PERCENTAGE OF ALL SCHOOL LEAVERS AGED 16
    Session
    Qualification 1 SCE 'O' grade973–741974–751975–761976–77
    A-C28·128·930·732·5
    D-E4·45·95·75·7
    Total32·534·836·438·2

    Nursery Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) how many pupils were receiving nursery education at the latest available date.(2) how many pupils were receiving nursery education at the latest available date expressed as a percentage of the total number of children in the age group.

    At September 1977—the latest date for which figures are available—there were 29,483 children attending nursery schools and departments in Scotland, mostly on a part-day basis this was 21 per cent. of all children aged three and four. In addition there were 10,347 children aged 4, or 14 per cent. of that age group, attending primary schools.

    Teacher Training

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many teachers undertook in-service training in teacher training colleges in Scotland for the latest available year.

    In session 1976–77, about 15,000 teachers took part in in-service courses in colleges of education and about 7,500 in school-based training provided by the colleges in co-operation with education authorities.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many places there are for first-year students in teacher training establishments in Scotland for entry in autumn 1978.

    I would refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's statement of 18th May in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow, Pollock (Mr. White).—[Vol. 950, c. 238–240.]

    Voluntary Organisations (Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total amount of grants to voluntary organisations in Scotland for the years 1977–78.

    The total grants paid by my right hon. Friend to voluntary organisations in the social work, health and youth and community fields in the financial year 1977–78 was £1,839,000.

    National Health Service (Staff)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many administrative and medical staff are employed in the National Health Service in Scotland.

    Expressed as whole time equivalents, there were at 30th September 1977 (the date of the latest available figures) 2,800 administrative and 5,383 medical staff employed in the National Health Service in Scotland.

    Road Accidents (Children)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the cost to public funds of fatal road accidents to children in 1977; whether, as an interim measure, he will seek to put into effect, in Scotland, section 8 of the Road Traffic Act 1974, thereby making it mandatory on local authorities to promote road safety; and whether he will consider the initiation of an inquiry into this problem.

    pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 19th July 1978] gave the following information:Costs are not available. The Scottish Development Department will be holding discussions with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities to establish an appropriate date for a commencement order for section 8 of the Road Traffic Act 1974. The implementation of section 8 will not of itself guarantee a reduction in road casualties involving children. While I am continually aware of the need to promote road safety, it is worth noting that the number of children killed or injured on Scottish roads has been falling steadily in recent years and, indeed, the figures for the past two years were the lowest ever recorded.