Written Answers To Questions
Friday 2 February 1979
Scotland
Royal Scottish National Hospital, Larbert
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he is satisfied with the hairdressing facilities for patients in the Royal Scottish national hospital, Larbert.
I am satisfied with the action the health board has recently taken to improve hairdressing facilities.
Computers
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list by name the police forces which have methods of computer storage and retrieval of criminal information that are compatible with methods of national record keeping and give for each such force the capital expenditure and the annual expenditure for the longest period possible.
In Scotland, only Tayside police keeps criminal and offence records—but not criminal intelligence—on computer. There is no direct link with any other police record system but the method of classification used is compatible with that in general use elsewhere.The facilities used by Tayside police are rented from Tayside regional council and annual rental costs since local government reorganisation are as follows:
| 1975–76 | £87,000 |
| 1976–77 | £107,000 |
| 1977–78 | £130,000 |
| 1978–79 | £113,000—estimated |
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the police forces which have systems for command and control schemes based on the use of computers which help in handling requests for assistance from the public, aid dispatch of personnel and equipment, record, monitor and store such information for management purposes, stating for each force the capital costs and the annual expenditure for the longest period possible and whether such schemes are operational or in the process of being installed.
The only police force in Scotland to have a full and operational command and control system is Strathclyde. The total cost of bringing the system into operation was £835,000—including a substantial element of research and development expenditure—and running costs were £44,000, £49,000 and £56,000—estimated—in 1976–77, 1977–78 and 1978–79, respectively.Broadly equivalent facilities are currently being provided for Tayside police at a capital cost of £78,000.
Local Authorities (Rate Income)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the income from rates, and rate support grant, respectively, of each region, respectively, in Scotland for the last financial year.
The information is given in the table below:
| 1977–78 | ||
| £ million | ||
| Regions* | Rates—excluding domestic water rate† | Rate support grant‡ |
| Borders | 7·118 | 18·893 |
| Central | 35·978 | 37·167 |
| Dumfries and Galloway | 9·150 | 24·056 |
| Fife | 23·652 | 55·565 |
| Grampian | 38·431 | 79·286 |
| Highland | 14·527 | 42·888 |
| Lothian | 82·681 | 122·207 |
| Strathclyde | 272·303 | 466·480 |
| Tayside | 35·047 | 65·942 |
| 518·887§ | 912·484§ | |
| * The figures given comprise the total rates and RSG paid to regional and district councils within each region. | ||
| † Latest available figures from provisional returns. | ||
| ‡ Subject to further minor adjustments to payments of resources element. | ||
| § Does not sum to Scottish total because of the exclusion of the islands councils. | ||
Defence
Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will express the current level of defence expenditure in terms of amount per head of population.
The 1978–79 defence budget of £6,972 million at 1978 survey prices represents £125 per head of population.
Prices And Consumer Protection
Prices
asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection whether he will give a list of formal undertakings given to him by manufacturers and others to hold their prices
| Company | Product(s) | Undertaking | |||||
| Fision Ltd. | … | … | … | Garden products | … | The company will not before 7 September 1978 increase its price for any of the garden products covered by the Commission's recommendation, so that the price including the increase exceeds by more than 20 per cent the price for that product at 7 September 1977. | |
| Proposed increases on some products were up to 43 per cent. | |||||||
| ICI Ltd. | … | … | … | Soda ash | … | … | The company will not before 1 July 1978 give notice to the Price Commission of a further increase in the price of soda ash. |
| Southalls (Birmingham) Ltd. | Tampons | … | … | The company will not before 23 December 1978 increase the price of "Lil-lets" tampons so that the price including any increase made or to be made exceeds by more than 3·17 per cent. the company's price for that product at 23 December 1977. | |||
| IPC Magazines Ltd. | … | … | Magazine cover prices | The company will not before 31 July 1978 implement any increase in its cover prices of the magazines covered by the Commission's recommendation. | |||
| Increase of 2·9 per cent. proposed. | |||||||
| The Associated Portland Cement Manufactures Ltd. | Cement | … | … | The company will not before 18 January 1979 charge a basing-point price for ordinary Portland cement, rapid hardening Portland cement or coarse ground Portland cement which exceeds the amount of the price on 1 June 1978. | |||
| Thus the company is able to implement a price increase of 7·09 per cent. as against its proposal for an increase of 10 per cent. | |||||||
| British Gypsum Ltd | … | … | Gypsum plaster and plasterboard. | Other than in respect of charges for the carriage of plasterboard, the company will not before 23 March 1979 increase its prices of the products covered by the Commission's recommendation, so that they exceed their amount at 23 March 1978 by more than a weighted average of 6½ per cent. | |||
| Increase of 8 per cent proposed | |||||||
Wales
Development Board For Rural Wales
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proposals he has for extending the area of operation of the Development Board for Rural Wales;
stable for an agreed period of time under the provisions of the Price Commission Act 1977, giving in each case the name of the manufacturer, details of the products involved and the proposed price increases forgone together with the date upon which the undertaking terminates.
I set out below details of formal undertakings so far given to my right hon. Friend following recommendations by the Price Commission in reports made under the provisions of the Price Commission Act 1977.and, if so, when, and over what additional rural districts.
It is too early to consider changes in the Board's area of operation. The Board should be allowed time to consolidate the success so far achieved in its present area.
Northern Ireland
Council Housing (Sales)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will circulate in the Official Report the details of the methods by which 54,000 council houses are to be sold off in Northern Ireland, and indicate the total savings per year which it is estimated these sales of council houses will mean for public expenditure, local and national.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Civil Service Pensions (Rhodesia)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether Her Majesty's Government continue to pay Rhodesian civil service pensions; and, if so, by what statutory authority they are paid.
The British Government have never paid the pensions of civil servants in the service of the Government of Southern Rhodesia.
Cyprus
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what representations he has made to the Turkish Government regarding Greek-Cypriot citizens still missing after the Turkish invasion; and whether he will press, on humanitarian grounds, for information to be provided to their families through the Red Cross or United Nations authorities.
The Government continue to believe that a general political settlement, for which we are actively working, would be the best context in which to resolve humanitarian problems, including that of the fate of missing persons.The Turkish authorities have repeatedly stated that they have no knowledge of Greek-Cypriot citizens missing following the events of 1974. It is unfortunate that the parties concerned have so far failed to reach agreement on the modalities of an investigating committee to tackle this humanitarian issue.
E1 Salvador (Arms Sales)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs whether arms have been sold or authorised to be sold by Her Majesty's Government to E1 Salvador during the past 12 months.
No.
Somalia (Military Equipment)
asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if, in view of the attacks in recent weeks on villages in Somalia by Ethiopian aircraft, Her Majesty's Government will now reconsider their refusal to provide defensive military equipment to Somalia as already requested on two occasions by President Siad Barre.
The Government favour a peaceful negotiated settlement to the dispute between Ethiopia and Somalia. In present circumstances it is not Government policy to supply arms to either side. We hope that both parties will exercise restraint.
Social Services
Mentally Handicapped Persons (Education)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what educational facilities are provided for mentally handicapped persons in adult training centres in the Greater Manchester metropolitan districts.
Although much of the work of adult training centres could be regarded as educational in the broadest sense, I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to services provided by local education authorities. Their teachers take classes in the adult training centres in Salford and the possibility of local education authority involvement is under discussion in four other districts. In six districts some trainees attend adult or further education classes run by the local education authorities.
Distalgesic
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps his Department has taken to inform general practitioners of the dangers of distalgesic, in the light of the fact that this drug is still being widely prescribed.
Distalgesic is available only on prescription from a doctor, who will have regard to the needs of the individual patient in prescribing it. Information on contra-indications, warnings and the management of overdosage is given in the data sheet provided for doctors by the manufacturers. The Committee on Safety of Medicines has recently been giving consideration to the dangers of overdosage with Distalgesic and will remind doctors of these in the next edition of its publication, "Current Problems", which will be issued to all doctors and dentists shortly.
| Year | DHSS prosecutions*† | Prosecutions in respect of organised fraud‡ | Police and Post Office prosecutions† | Totals | ||||
| 1973 | … | … | … | … | 92 | — | 331 | 423 |
| 1974 | … | … | … | … | 127 | 22 | 360 | 569 |
| 1975 | … | … | … | … | 105 | 57 | 398 | 560 |
| 1976 | … | … | … | … | 174 | 70 | 706 | 950 |
| 1977–78* | … | … | … | 295* | 81 | 625 | 1,001* | |
| * Prior to 1977, the figures relate to calendar years and prosecutions undertaken. From 1977, the figures relate to the Department's statistical year which begins in February and, from that year, the departmental figures given are for prosecutions authorised. | ||||||||
| † Excluding organised fraud cases. | ||||||||
| ‡ The Department's headquarters specialist unit concerned with the investigation of organised fraud came into operation towards the end of 1974. Organised fraud prosecutions are normally undertaken by police. The figures quoted for organised fraud include all large-scale instrument of payment offences such as bulk theft, total forgeries and trafficking. | ||||||||
Clofibrate
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further steps he will take to warn general practitioners of the dangers of prescribing clofibrate in the light of the recent trial showing an increased incidence in liver intestinal and gall bladder disease.
As my right hon. Friend said in the reply to the right hon. Member for Wanstead and Woodford (Mr. Jenkin) on 15 January, an item on the benefits and risks of treatment with clofibrate will be included in the next edition of the Committee on Safety of Medicines' publication, "Current Problems", shortly to be issued to all doctors in the United Kingdom.—[Vol. 960, c. 624–5.] This will draw attention to the recent trials, which have already been widely publicised in the medical journals. Arrangements have been made for warnings in manufacturers' data sheets to be strengthened to emphasise the increased incidence of gall stones
Claimants (Order Books)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many prosecutions there have been in each of the past five years for theft of claimants' order books.
Prosecutions in respect of Department of Health and Social Security benefit order book offences are undertaken by the Department, police or the Post Office. Combined records are kept by my Department for various offences including theft, forgery, deception, pledging and trafficking.The figures for the years 1973 to 1977 are the latest available and are as follows:among patients treated with this drug.
Vaccine-Damaged Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in accordance with the spirit of the recommendation of the Pearson Commission, he will now set up a compensation scheme for vaccine-damaged persons.
The Vaccine Damage Payments Bill, which is now before the House, makes provision for the scheme of payments in respect of persons damaged as a result of vaccination, as I announced on 9 May 1978.—[Vol. 949, c. 973–85.]
Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Birmingham
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will refer to the Director of Public Prosecutions, with a view to proceedings under section 5 of the Conspiracy and Protection of Property Act 1875, as amended in 1919, the activities of those pickets who have withdrawn their labour at the Queen Elizabeth hospital, Birmingham, in as much as they have broken their contracts of service while knowing that the consequences could be dangerous to human life.
Prosecution under the Act would be a matter for the local law enforcement authorities and would not require reference to the Director of Public Prosecutions. I do not know of any prosecution ever having been brought under these provisions. I understand that the incidence of picketing at the Queen Elizabeth hospital, Birmingham, has now lessened considerably.
National Finance
Self-Employed Persons
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will set out criteria used by the Inland Revenue in assessing whether a person is self-employed for taxation purposes; whether the criteria differ from those laid down under the Social Security Act 1975; whether he will publish any guidance notes; and whether he will make a statement.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Public Expenditure
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, further to the written answer to the hon. Member for Blaby on 29 January concerning the relative price effect, and not the retail price effect, imported into the original question by a printer's error, if he will now state what the numerical value of the trend effect of the relative price effect on the rate of growth of total public expenditure is currently reckoned to be; and whether that trend effect is positive or negative.
As I said in my earlier reply, short-term effects predominate over any underlying trend. For this reason a trend value cannot be satisfactorily identified.I naturally understand that the hon. Member could not conceivably have made an error in referring to the "relative price effect"!
Budget
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he proposes to introduce his next Budget.
An announcement will be made in due course.
Income Tax And Public Expenditure
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many jobs it is estimated would be generated by (a) a £1 billion reduction in income tax and (b) a £1 billion increase in public expenditure.
I refer the hon. Member to my answer to the hon. Member for Perth and East Perthshire (Mr. Crawford) on 15 January 1979.—[Vol. 960, c. 669.]
Capital Gains Tax
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will consider the separate assessment of husband and wife for capital gains tax, where each party has individually owned a property in which they have lived separately or together during the period of their marriage whilst each was engaged in separate employment in the same vicinity of the houses owned.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 31 January 1978; Vol. 961, c. 465–6], gave the following reply:I do not think that it would be right to give capital gains tax exemption for two residences even in the rather exceptional case mentioned by the hon. Member.
Civil Service
Staff (Premature Retirement)
asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will list for 1977 and 1978 the number of civil servants in the administration group for each Department of State who were retired prematurely on grounds of (a) inefficiency, (b) limited efficiency, (c) redundancy and (d) discipline.
The information requested by the hon. Member is set out in the table below:
| (a) | (b) | (c) | (d) | (e) | ||||||||||||
| 1977 | 1978* | 1977 | 1978* | 1977 | 1978* | 1977 | 1978* | 1977 | 1978* | |||||||
| Department | Inefficient | Limited efficiency | Redundancy | Discipline | Total | |||||||||||
| Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food | … | 3 | — | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 5 | — | |||||
| Intervention Board for Agricultural Produce | … | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | |||||
| Cabinet Office | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | 2 | 1 |
| Charity Commission | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | |
| Civil Service Department | … | … | … | … | — | — | 9 | 2 | 2 | — | 2 | — | 13 | 2 | ||
| Her Majesty's Customs and Excise | … | … | … | 7 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | — | 10 | 5 | 20 | 8 | |||
| Ministry of Defence | … | … | … | … | … | 6 | 3 | 3 | 6 | 167 | 46 | 7 | 4 | 183 | 59 | |
| Department of Education and Science | … | … | — | — | — | 1 | 8 | — | 2 | — | 10 | 1 | ||||
| Department of Employment group | … | … | … | 1 | 4 | — | — | 2 | — | 12 | 11 | 15 | 15 | |||
| Department of Energy | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | ||
| Department of the Environment | … | … | … | 3 | — | 7 | 2 | 2 | — | 8 | 3 | 20 | 5 | |||
| Export Credits Guarantee Department | … | … | — | — | — | — | 4 | — | — | — | 4 | — | ||||
| Office of Fair Trading | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | ||
| Department of Health and Social Security | … | … | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 6 | 3 | 10 | 7 | ||||
| Home Office | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | 1 | 3 | — | — | — | 1 | 1 | 5 |
| Central Office of Information | … | … | … | 2 | 1 | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | 3 | 1 | |||
| Inland Revenue | … | … | … | … | … | 3 | 4 | — | 1 | 16 | — | 8 | 8 | 27 | 13 | |
| Land Registry | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | 1 | 1 | — | 1 | — | — | — | 3 | 1 |
| Lord Chancellor's Department | … | … | … | 2 | 5 | — | 1 | — | — | — | 1 | 2 | 7 | |||
| Royal Mint | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 3 | — | — | 1 | — | — | — | 1 | 3 |
| Department for National Savings | … | … | … | 2 | 1 | — | 1 | 82 | 63 | 7 | 1 | 91 | 66 | |||
| Northern Ireland Office | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | — | 1 | — | ||
| Paymaster General's Office | … | … | … | … | 1 | — | — | 2 | — | — | — | — | 1 | 2 | ||
| Office of Population Censuses and Surveys | … | 4 | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | 4 | 2 | |||||
| Procurator Fiscal Service | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | ||
| Director of Public Prosecutions | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | |||
| Scottish Courts administration | … | … | … | — | — | — | 1 | — | — | — | — | — | 1 | |||
| Scottish Office | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 2 | 1 |
| Her Majesty's Stationery Office | … | … | … | — | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 1 | — | 2 | 1 | |||
| Departments of Trade, Industry and Prices and Consumer Protection | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | 2 | 6 | — | 3 | 4 | 9 | 6 | ||
| Department of Transport | … | … | … | … | 1 | 1 | 1 | — | — | 13 | 21 | 11 | 23 | 25 | ||
| Her Majesty's Treasury | … | … | … | … | — | — | 3 | — | — | — | — | — | 3 | — | ||
| Total | … | … | … | … | … | … | 38 | 31 | 31 | 26 | 297 | 123 | 92 | 55 | 458 | 235 |
* The figures given for 1978 are those which are available as at January 1979. |
| † Includes Department of Employment, employment services division, Health and Safety Executive, training services division and Manpower Services Commission. |
Environment
Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has received representations from local authorities on problems arising from the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977; to what extent these representations relate to the shortage of suitable accommodation to carry out the requirements of the Act; and if he will make a statement.
Representations have been received from a number of local housing authorities on particular matters relating to the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977. A few have referred to the availability of accommodation. We have drawn authorities' attention to the steps open to them to secure the fullest possible use of accommodation in their areas. The code of guidance, associated with the Act and circular 76/77—Better Use of Vacant and Under-Occupied Housing—set out a number of measures. We have also had regard to levels of homelessness as one factor in making capital allocations for housing purposes. However, if any authority needs a larger allocation specifically to provide additional dwellings for the homeless, it should contact its regional office quickly.This Department has invited the local authority associations to comment in the light of their members' experience on the working of the Act and the code of guidance. We are currently awaiting their replies.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has any evidence of those on housing waiting lists being disadvantaged by the provisions of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977; and if he will make a statement.
Representations have been received from a few housing authorities that the number of lettings available to meet the needs of those at the top of the waiting list has been reduced because of lettings to homeless people. I believe that it was Parliament's intention in passing this Act, with substantial all-party support, to ensure that accommodation was indeed available to those in priority need who were without shelter. There are a number of ways in which authorities can fulfil their obligations under the Act. It does not necessarily require the allocation of a council house, though that will often be the appropriate solution. Where a local authority dwelling is allocated, the effect on the waiting list will not necessarily be clear. Many authorities have a well honoured practice of affording priority to those who are homeless and, I believe, most of those accepted by authorities are either already on their waiting list or eligible to be so.
Countryside Commission (Public Path Network)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the latest date by which he expects to receive the report of the Countryside Commission on the public path network.
I expect to receive the Countryside Commission report on the scope for the modification of the public path network by May 1979.
Surrey Docks (Southwark)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the Government have reached a conclusion on the proposal to develop a merchandise mart at the Surrey docks in Southwark; and if he will make a statement.
As the House knows, I have been considering further measures to assist the revival of the London dock-lands; and in particular the proposal of the Trammell Crow Company of Dallas, Texas, to develop a £53 million trade mart at the Surrey docks in Southwark. The company has applied under section 8 of the Industry Act 1972 for financial assistance from the Government.The Company has given us full information about the project and its commercial plans. We have taken the advice of the Industrial Development Advisory Board, and officials of my own Department and the Department of Industry have visited the Trammell Crow trade marts in Dallas and Brussels. Because the project is so novel and important we have made other very thorough inquiries including an assessment of the Brussels trade mart which is guaranteed by the Belgian Government.After very careful consideration, I have this week informed Mr. Trammell Crow that the Government are not prepared to give a guarantee to the project in the form in which it has been presented to us. Apart from questions about the financial terms, all our advice is emphatic that the commercial prospects of a merchandise mart in this country are not the same as in the United States, where such marts have been successfully established.The Government are firmly committed to helping forward the redevelopment of the dockland area with all speed. Our consideration of the trade mart proposal shows that we are prepared to use the powers available to us to facilitate commercial and industrial development there. In particular, section 8 of the Industry Act 1972 can be used by the Government to provide loans, grants or guarantees for major commercial and industrial investment, if these meet the usual criteria for such financial assistance. Within the framework of the Act there is in particular the selective investment scheme which is available for large and medium manufacturing projects which would not otherwise start.Within a total available sum of £50 million, the Government are now prepared to consider guarantees for substantial projects in docklands. In suitable cases we are also prepared to make grants or loans, and up to £20 million is available for this purpose over the next four years. The assistance will be available only for projects which would anyway have been located in the South-East. The House will recognise that this commitment in no way detracts from our regional policies. The cost will be borne within my Department's expenditure limits and the funds available for expenditure on regional assistance to industry will be unaffected.I shall discuss as soon as possible with the docklands joint committee and the dockland local authorities the type of projects to be considered, the planning constraints and the locations within the dockland boroughs which would be most appropriate.
Craftsman Training Centre, Venice
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will consider providing funds for a number of scholarships at the Council of Europe craftsman training centre in Venice such as other Council of Europe Governments have provided.
I have been asked to reply.I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that although it has now resumed financial involvement with the international apprentice competition it does not consider it appropriate to support the provision of high cost scholarships in specific trades at the Council of Europe craftsman training centre in Venice. I understand that the construction industry training board shares this view although it has agreed to help with the selection of apprentices for such training.
Transport
Lorries (Mud Flaps)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he plans to introduce legislation requiring lorry owners to fit adequate mud flaps to prevent spraying; and if he will make a statement.
The law already requires lorries to be fitted with wings or other devices to catch, so far as practicable mud or water thrown up by the wheels. However, our researches have not so far established effective means for containing the spray thrown up by fast-moving heavy vehicles. A recent project sponsored by the Department suggests that neither mud-flaps nor improved mud-guarding are the answer. A report of the project will be published shortly and I will send the hon. Member a copy.
Vehicle Lighting
asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether he will institute an official campaign on the use of car side or parking lights only on moving vehicles during the hours of darkness or adverse daylight conditions.
The law already requires headlamps to be used in poor daylight conditions and at night except where the road is illuminated by street lamps not more than 200 yards apart. These requirements are also set out in the Highway Code which advises the use of headlamps on all roads at night except where the street lighting is good and invariably on motorways and other high speed roads. Steps have already been taken to publicise but I will consider whether anything more is needed.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what proportion of (a) all road accidents and (b) fatal road accidents are attributable in whole or in part to inadequate vehicle lighting.
I regret that this information is not available on a national basis.Localised investigations are however conducted by the Transport and Road Research Laboratory into the causes of road accidents and I would refer the hon. Member to their leaflet LF 392 Issue 2, published in April 1975, which contains some information on the Contribution of Vehicle Lighting Defects to Road Accidents.
Driving Tests
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what steps he is taking to reduce the present waiting period for driving tests in the United Kingdom generally, and in the Slough area in particular.
I would refer the hon. and learned Member to the answer which my right hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend, the Member for Consett (Mr. Watkins) on 14 November 1978.—[Vol. 958, c. 144.] Two additional examiners are being sought for the driving test centre in Slough.
M25 Construction
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he is satisfied with the rate of progress of the M25; and when the entire outer orbital route will be in use.
The M25 has top priority in the road programme. I am satisfied that no effort is being spared to complete it quickly. I would like to see still faster progress, but the statutory procedures for the protection of those affected must be allowed to take their course. Subject to these being completed satisfactorily I expect that most of the route will be in use by 1983.
Railway Sidings
asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many railway sidings, excluding British Rail's own terminals and marshalling yards, were opened in each year since 1974 to date (a) in total and (b) with the assistance of section 8 grants; and what was the expenditure in each year on section 8 grants in current prices.
The information is as follows:
| 1. NEW PRIVATE SIDINGS OPENED | |||
| All | With s. 8 assistance* | Total s. 8 approvals | |
| 1974 | 56 | — | — |
| 1975 | 22 | 3 | 3 |
| 1976 | 26 | 2 | 15 |
| 1977 | 28 | 5 | 19 |
| 1978 | 17 | 1 | 25 |
| * Excludes schemes under construction. | |||
| 2. SECTION 8 GRANT EXPENDITURE (ALL SCHEMES) | |
| Financial Year | Expenditure (£) |
| 1975–76 | 483,562 |
| 1976–77 | 1,003,399 |
| 1977–78 | 2,011,674 |
| 1978–79 (to date) | 1,473,176 |
asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many applications for section 8 grants for the installation of private sidings were received in 1978; how many were refused; and for what reasons.
28 applications were received in 1978 in England, Scotland and Wales. There were no refusals, but in one case—Nypro Limited of Flix-borough—a reduced grant was offered because the environmental benefits were not considered to be commensurate with the amount of grant sought, and a better solution to the general problem of lorries in the Flixborough area is available.
A66 (Accidents)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport how many people have been killed on the A66 during 1977–78 on the stretch between Keswick and Workington; and how many have been injured.
8 people have been killed and 54 injured in the two years 1977 and 1978 on the stretch of A66 between the junction with the A595 at Chapelbrow (near Workington) and the eastern end of the Keswick bypass.
Roads (Design Standards)
asked the Secretary of State for Transport if he is satisfied with the present design standards for new roads; and what plans he has for modifying them.
Yes. Design standards for new roads are concerned with road safety and the operational efficiency of road transport and are kept constantly under review in order to take account of experience, economic considerations, social factors and a substantial programme of acident research. Present standards have evolved from many years of experience and research by this and other countries but modifications are made as fresh evidence becomes available. Updating has continued since the last major definitive document was issued in 1968 and further modifications will be issued from time to time.
Vehicle And Traffic Forecasts
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what effect the new system of recording vehicle registrations has on the forecasts of vehicle population and traffic; and whether he proposes to issue an amendment to the interim memorandum on traffic forecasts.
The new system does not affect the forecasts of traffic made in accordance with the interim memorandum. Traffic is estimated from the traffic census; if estimates of car ownership change, it is only estimates of miles per car which will change.I will take account of the implications of the new estimates of the vehicle stock when the forecasts are next revised.
Employment
Unfair Dismissal
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many claims of unfair dismissal have been dealt with by industrial tribunals during the latest 12 months for which figures are available and with what results; and what were the comparable figures for the two previous 12 months periods.
The following is the information requested:
| Number of claims dealt with by industrial tribunals | Number of claims upheld at a tribunal hearing | |
| 1975 | 8,729 | 3,351 |
| 1976 | 13,400 | 4,838 |
| 1977 | 12,842 | 3,954 |
West Cornwall
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if the publication of his survey of unemployment in West Cornwall is likely to be delayed or aborted as a consequence of uncertainty over the future of Falmouth docks.
No.
Central Arbitration Committee
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many claims have been settled by the Central Arbitration Committee nder schedule 11 to the Employment Protection Act; how many were contested by the employed and how many were unopposed; how many workers were involved; which were the six trade unions sponsoring the most claims; and what was the average amount of the awards made during the past 12 months for which figures are available.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Job Creation (Walsall)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the latest figures for the number of applications of approvals for the Manpower Services Commission special temporary employment programme and the youth employment programme schemes within the Walsall area from (a) Walsall council, (b) voluntary organisations and (c) firms.
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that to date 357 schemes providing up to 940 places have been approved under the special temporary employment programme and the youth opportunities programme in the Walsall area. Of these schemes 12 have been sponsored by the local authority in Walsall giving only 16 places. Voluntary organisations have sponsored 17 schemes giving 165 places and private firms have sponsored 302 schemes giving 472 places.
North-West Region (Lorry Drivers' Dispute)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many persons in the area covered by the Macclesfield constituency have now been laid off as a result of the lorry drivers' dispute;(2) how many persons in the textile industry have now been laid off as a result of the lorry drivers' dispute and how many of these workers are in the North-West region.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 30 January 1979; Vol. 961, c. 403–4], gave the following information:Estimates of lay-offs have been made only on broad bases and separate figures for all lay-offs are not generally available for local areas or for industries.
| 1974 | 1975 | 1976 | 1977 | 1978 | 1979 | |||||
| Number of Meetings | … | … | 10 | 24 | 23 | 21 | 24 | 2 | ||
| W. Simpson—Chairman | … | … | 10 | 22 | 21 | 18 | 22 | 2 | ||
| M. Jukes | … | … | … | … | 10 | 21 | 21 | 17 | 18* | — |
| M. Cobb | … | … | … | … | 10 | 24 | 23 | 21 | 24 | 2 |
| P. Jacques | … | … | … | … | 10 | 24 | 23 | 21 | 24 | 2 |
| G. Lloyd | … | … | … | … | 10 | 21 | 18 | 14 | 13 | 2 |
| T. Parry | … | … | … | … | 9 | 18 | 19 | 13 | 15 | 2 |
| R. Richards | … | … | … | 9 | 21 | 19 | 14† | — | — | |
| J. Anderson | … | … | … | 4‡ | 13 | 11 | 10 | 8 | 0 | |
| F. Bushell | … | … | … | … | 4‡ | 22 | 19 | 21 | 22 | 1 |
| T. Carle | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | 4† | 21 | 2 |
| G. Bone | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | 5* | 1 |
| * Mr. M. Jukes retired in September 1978 and was replaced by Mr. G. Bone. | ||||||||||
| † Mr. R. Richards retired in September 1977 and was replaced by Mr. T. Carle. | ||||||||||
| ‡ Mr. J. Anderson and Mr. F. Bushell were appointed in November 1974. | ||||||||||
Industry
Concorde
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish in the Official Report an updated version of his reply to the hon. Member for Kingswood (Mr. Walker) on Concorde costs, providing all figures at current survey prices.
Information on the basis given in the reply by my right hon. Friend, the Minister of State, of 8 May 1978—[Vol. 949, c. 346–8.]—to my
Health And Safety Commission
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a list of meetings of the Health and Safety Commission and the attendances by members; and if he will place copies of the minutes of the various meetings in the Library.
, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 1 February 1979, Vol. 961, c. 517], gave the following information:A list of the meetings of the Health and Safety Commission since it was established in October 1974, together with a record of the attendance by members, is reproduced below.The Commission's minutes are produced as a record for the information of members and I do not, therefore, think them suitable for publication. However, the Commission's bimonthly newsletter provides a regular account of its decisions and I shall arrange for copies to be put in the Library.hon. Friend the Member for Kingswood is not yet available for the year ending 31 December 1978, but my right hon. Friend will let the House have that information as soon as possible. It is not yet clear to what extent my right hon. Friend will be able to let the House have the information also in terms of current survey prices but this will be looked at closely.
Product And Process Development Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many applications have now been received for grants under the product and process development scheme; how many grants have been made; and how much public money has so far been committed and spent on the scheme.
By 31 December 1978, 494 formal applications for assistance had been received under the product and process development scheme. Of these, 153 had been approved involving a Department contribution of approximately £15 million towards total project costs of £49 million.
Naphtha And Polymers
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will indicate the dollar price of naphtha at six-monthly intervals over the past three years and the £ sterling prices of low density polyethylene, polypropylene, PVC and polystyrene at the year end since 1973.
I am afraid that this information is not available from Government statistics but I understand that it is published in European Chemical News.
Company Subsidiaries (Purchase By Employees)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what assistance has been given in the last two years to managers and workers in subsidiaries of companies to purchase their own companies.
Selective financial assistance is normally available for investment in manufacturing businesses, however purchased: no assistance has been given in the past two years specifically for the purpose set out in my right hon. Friend's question. Under the Industrial Common Ownership Act 1976 my right hon. Friend has made available £250,000 over five years to help relevant bodies with the provision of loans to workers—controlled enterprises. Industrial Common Ownership Finance Ltd. is administering this scheme. So far, seven such loans totalling £46,000 have been made.
Fireclay
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will indicate the terms of reference he has given for the study of fireclay by the Institute of Geological Sciences.
The Institute of Geological Sciences has been asked to report on the geological distribution of fireclay resources in the United Kingdom, and their availability exploration, and utilisation, having regard to likely future demand.
Small Businesses
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many meetings with representatives of organisations representing small businesses have been held by his junior currently responsible for small firms.
Since taking over this responsibility, I have been familarising myself with small firms' affairs, including meetings with colleagues and making visits. The views of representative organisations are an essential contribution to this and I am holding a series of meetings to this end.
Ministerial Responsibilities
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish a list of the responsibilities and duties of each of the Ministers who serve under him in his Department.
I refer the hon. Member to the list of ministerial responsibilities which is available from the Whips' Offices. The current responsibilities within my Department are those set out in the list at 1 October 1978, with the exception that all the responsibilities shown for the parliamentary Under-Secretaries of State are now carried out by myself.
Falmouth Docks (Industrial Stimulation)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has any contingency plans for an industrial stimulus for Falmouth in the event of male unemployment reaching 2,000, or 28 per cent., as a consequence of any decision regarding the future of Falmouth docks.
Falmouth is a development area and, as a result, a wide range of incentives is already available there to promote industrial development. My right hon. Friend has been carefully considering an application to designate the whole of Cornwall as a special development area. Obviously, he would take into account any important developments affecting Cornwall's economy.
Holograms (Research And Exploitation)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what help he is giving to hologram research; and what help he is giving to the television, film, computer, engineering, toy and advertising sign industries to exploit holograms commercially.
My Department has been funding work on holograms and their applications, including exploitation in computer and engineering applications, for a number of years. Proposals from industry for support in this area would, of course, be eligible for consideration under the various industry assistance schemes.
Education And Science
11-Plus Papers (Marking)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many of the local authorities which still maintain
| (a) | (b) | (c) | |||||
| Financial year | Weekly cost to pupils | Weekly cost to pupils at 1977–78 prices | Weekly cost as percentage of actual cost of providing school meals | ||||
| £ | |||||||
| 1964–65 | … | … | … | … | 25p | 1·21 | 46·7 |
| 1965–66 | … | … | … | … | 25p | 1·14 | 43·8 |
| 1966–67 | … | … | … | … | 25p | 1·08 | 41·5 |
| 1967–68 | … | … | … | … | 25p | 1·06 | 40·7 |
| 1968–69 | … | … | … | … | 37·5p | 1·49 | 57·5 |
| 1969–70 | … | … | … | … | 37·5p | 1·39 | 53·3 |
| 1970–71 | … | … | … | … | 43·75p | 1·47 | 56·8 |
| 1971–72 | … | … | … | … | 60p | 1·63 | 62·7 |
| 1972–73 | … | … | … | … | 60p | 1·47 | 56·8 |
| 1973–74 | … | … | … | … | 60p | 1·23 | 47·5 |
| 1974–75 | … | … | … | … | 60p | 0·98 | 37·8 |
| 1975–76 | … | … | … | … | 75p | 1·00 | 38·3 |
| 1976–77 | … | … | … | … | 75p | 0·86 | 33·1 |
| 1977–78 | … | … | … | … | 75p | 0·75 | 28·9 |
| to August 1977 1·25 from September 1977 | to August 1977 1·25 from September 1977 | to August 1977 48·1 from September 1977 | |||||
| NOTES:— | |||||||
| 1. For 1977–78 the figures reflect the situation before and after the increase in the dinner charge from 15p to 25p in September 1977. The average for that year as a whole be (a) and (b) £ 1·08 and (c) 41·7 per cent. | |||||||
| 2. In all other cases increases in the charge took place at the beginning of the financial year. | |||||||
Beechwood College
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science
selection use sixth-form pupils to mark the 11-plus papers; and if she approves this practice.
My Department does not hold this information centrally, but I am not aware of any authority other than Walsall which has adopted this practice. I have no doubt that suitably selected sixth formers could mark multiple choice papers quite competently, but I should regret their involvement in a matter which might become the subject of controversy between teachers in the area and the authority, especially if this interfered with their normal work.
School Meals
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will publish in the Official Report a table which shows (a) the weekly cost of school meals in each year since 1964, (b) expresses this cost at September 1977 prices and (c) expresses this cost as a percentage of the actual cost of providing school meals.
The information in respect of maintained schools in England and Wales is as follows:if she will make provision for financial assistance to be provided to the Beechwood college to enable the education and training of employee representatives in industry, as recommended in the White Paper on industrial democracy.
The provision of education and training for employee representatives envisaged in the White Paper on industrial democracy is still the subject of consultation and discussion, and it would not yet be appropriate to commit funds to particular developments.
Nursery Schools
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of three and four-year-old children
| Maintained nursery schools | Nursery classes in maintained primary schools | ||||||
| Bedfordshire Per cent. | England Per cent. | Bedfordshire Per cent. | England Per cent. | ||||
| January: | |||||||
| 1974 | … | … | … | 4·0 | 2·8 | 1·2 | 5·7 |
| 1977 | … | … | … | 5·6 | 3·7 | 9·6 | 11·0 |
| 1978 | … | … | … | 7·6 | 3·9 | 15·2 | 12·8 |
Independent Schools
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will list the numbers of children at present being educated in the independent sector divided as to nursery, junior and secondary education showing also the percentages of the total number of school children in each of these categories.
The numbers in the age groups 2–4, 5–11 and 12 and over for England and Wales as at January 1978 were:
| Age group | Pupils in independent schools | As percentage of all school children in age group | |
| 2–4 | Full-time | 16,434 | 5·62 |
| Part-time | 11,293 | ||
| 5–11 | 188,742 | 3·51 | |
| 12 and over | 208,394 | 5·34 | |
| Total | 424,863 | 4·35 |
Pupil Numbers (Parliamentary Constituencies)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether she will now arrange to compute pupil numbers for parliamentary constituency areas; and if she will specify the reason why she has previously refused to do so.
are currently in nursery schools; and what were the corresponding figures for 1974 and 1977 in (a) England and Wales and (b) Bedfordshire.
The numbers of full-time and part-time pupils aged three and four years in nursery schools or nursery classes in primary schools in January as a percentage of the estimated population of these age groups as at the previous 30 June are given below. Information about Wales is now the responsibility of my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales.
No. In England there are over 30,000 schools for which it would be necessary to identify the parliamentary constituencies in which they are located. There are practical difficulties in undertaking an exercise of this magnitude, and I do not consider that the substantial use of manpower and computer resources required would be justified.
Nursery Education (Cheshire)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many children below the age of five years are either in part-time or full-time education at nursery schools or infant schools in the Macclesfield and Congleton districts of the Cheshire education authority.
I regret that pupil numbers for areas smaller than local education authorities are not readily available.
School Inspectorate
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the present strength of Her Majesty's school inspectorate and what was the strength in 1974; how much of the workload of the inspectorate is concerned with independent schools in comparison with State schools; and what was the comparable proportion in 1974.
The number of Her Majesty's inspectors at 1 January 1974 and 1979 was 443 and 403, of whom about three-quarters were mainly concerned with schools. Her Majesty's inspectors continue to make routine and formal inspection visits to independent schools, although there has been a small reduction in these arising from the ending of the arrangements for recognition as efficient. Their short courses and publications are also available to teachers in the independent as well as the maintained sectors. As in 1974, some 175 inspectors have assignments which include the inspection of independent as well as maintained schools. In addition, 15 inspectors, compared with 18 in 1974, are assigned to a team responsible for specific inspections in connection with registered status.
| Achieving grade C or better | ||||||||
| Modern | Number of entrants | Number | Percentage | |||||
| language | 1976 | 1977 | 1976 | 1977 | 1976 | 1977 | ||
| French | … | … | 146,687 | 148,739 | 87,461 | 90,670 | 59·6 | 61·0 |
| German | … | … | 42,253 | 44,514 | 24,865 | 26,153 | 58·9 | 58·8 |
| Spanish | … | … | 12,048 | 11,740 | 7,398 | 7,255 | 61·4 | 61·8 |
| Italian | … | … | 3,501 | 2,622 | 2,231 | 1,855 | 63·7 | 70·8 |
| Russian | … | … | 2,042 | 1,875 | 1,500 | 1,334 | 73·5 | 71·2 |
| Other modern languages | … | … | 5,695 | 5,210 | 4,217 | 3,560 | 74·1 | 68·3 |
Discretionary Awards
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when she hopes to receive the results of the survey on regional discrepancies in discretionary awards.
The report of the Department's discretionary awards survey, which was intended to identify national trends in provision rather than to examine regional variations, was published in February last year. I am sending a copy to my hon. Friend. I would also refer him to the reply to a question from the hon. Member for Sudbury and Woodbridge (Mr. Stainton) given today.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, following her Department's survey in 1978 of local authorities' discretionary awards policies for students, she is now in a position to make a statement on the consequent review set in hand by the Council of Local Education Authorities with which she has co-operated.
Modern Languages
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if she will list separately, for each of the past two years, the number of entrants in England for GCO O level in each modern language and the number and percentage who passed at grade C or better.
I regret that information is not available in the form requested. However, the number of entrants to the English GCE boards' summer examinations in modern languages at O level and the numbers and percentages who passed at grade C or better in 1976 and 1977 are given below. The figures include entrants from schools, further education establishments, privately entered candidates, and overseas candidates.
The Council of Local Education Authorities' review was conducted by a working party set up for the purpose. I understand that the working party's report was presented to the council on 15 January and will be formally submitted to my right hon. Friend very shortly.
Home Department
Supermarkets (Liquor Sales)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from the National Association of Licensed Victuallers about the enforcement of regulations concerning the conditions of sale of intoxicating liquor in supermarkets, particularly concerning the employment of under-age assistants, sales to under-age customers and the need for separate sales sections; and if he will now take action to strengthen the relevant legislation and its enforcement.
Section 169(1) of the Licensing Act 1964 prohibits the sale of intoxicating liquor to a person under the age of 18 on any premises for which a justices' licence is in force. The enforcement of this provision is a matter for the police and the courts.I am aware of the view of the National Union of Licensed Victuallers that in off-licensed supermarkets the sale of intoxicating liquor should be allowed only from a separate department within the store and that the person making the sale should be aged 18 or over. I shall bear these suggestions in mind, but I have no plans for legislation on liquor licensing at present.
Immigration Detainees
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were detained at prison department establishments under the Immigration Act 1971 as at 30 September 1978 (a) up to one month, (b) over one month and up to two months, (c) over two months and up to three months, (d) over three months and up to six months, (e) over six months and up to nine months, (f) over nine months and up to 12 months and (g) over 12 months.
The information available centrally is given in the following table.
| ACCEPTANCES FOR SETTLEMENT | ||||||||||
| Thousands | ||||||||||
| 1977 | 1978 estimates | |||||||||
| Settlement on arrival | ||||||||||
| Commonwealth citizens | … | … | … | … | … | 21·2 | 21 | |||
| Foreign citizens | … | … | … | … | … | … | 14·5 | 13 | ||
| Total | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 35·7 | 34 |
| of which | ||||||||||
| New Commonwealth and Pakistan | … | … | 27·7 | 25 | ||||||
| Settlement on removal of time limit | ||||||||||
| Commonwealth citizens | … | … | … | … | … | 16·2 | 17 | |||
| Foreign citizens | … | … | … | … | … | … | 17·4 | 21 | ||
| Total | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 33·6 | 38 |
| of which | ||||||||||
| New Commonwealth and Pakistan | … | … | 16·4 | 18 | ||||||
| Total acceptances | … | … | … | … | … | … | 69·3 | 72 | ||
| of which | ||||||||||
| New Commonwealth and Pakistan | … | … | 44·2 | 43 | ||||||
Computers
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the annual expenditure in each of
Persons detained under the Immigration Act 1971 in prison department establishments in England and Wales on 30 September 1978 by time held under the Act.
| Time in custody under the Immigration Act | No of persons |
| Up to one month | 55 |
| Over one months and up to two months | 47 |
| Over two months and up to three months | 18 |
| Over three months and up to six months | 13 |
| Over six months and up to nine months | 3 |
| Over nine months and up to twelve months | — |
| Over twelve months | 1 |
| Total | 137 |
Immigrants
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish a table, similar to that in the Official Report, 14 November 1978, column 138, showing estimates of acceptances for settlement for the whole of 1978.
The broad groups of acceptances for settlement for which estimates have been made for 1978 are given in the table below, together with the published figures for 1977.the past three years on computers for which his Department is responsible; what was the expenditure on equipping, programming and laying out of each computer centre in England and Wales in the same period; and what portion of such expenditure was spent on computers for police purposes and non-police purposes.
Information is not available in the form asked for, but expenditure on computers with which the Department is concerned is set out below. The figures relate to financial years except where indicated:
| 1. HOME OFFICE AND METROPOLIAN POLICE | ||
| Joint ADP unit—mainly pay-roll, statistics prison index | ||
| £000's | ||
| Capital expenditure | Current expenditure on goods and services | |
| 1975–76 | 1,100 | 1,002* |
| 1976–77 | 162 | 1,445* |
| 1977–78 | 1,273 | 2,115* |
| Total | 2,535 | 4,562 |
| It is estimated that over the period about 55 per cent. of computer time has been for police purposes. | ||
| * Calendar years 1975–77 inclusive. | ||
| 2. OTHER POLICE PURPOSE | ||
| Police national computer | ||
| 1975–76 | 1,740 | 1,637 |
| 1976–77 | 349 | 1,829* |
| 1977–78 | 987 | 2,262 |
| Total | 3,076 | 5,728 |
| * Revised figures. | ||
| Police scientific research and development | ||
| 1975–76 | — | 110 |
| 1976–77 | — | 194 |
| 1977–78 | 254 | 64 |
| Total | 254 | 368 |
| 'C' department, Metropolitan Police | ||
| 1976–77 | 935 | — |
| 1977–78 | 35 | — |
| Total | 970 | — |
| Vehicle fleet, Metropolitan Police | ||
| 1976–77 | 122 | — |
| 1977–78 | 17 | — |
| Total | 139 | — |
| 3. OTHER NON-POLICE PURPOSE | ||
| Private mobile radio frequency assignment | ||
| 1975–76 | 156 | 57 |
| 1976–77 | 26 | 125 |
| 1977–78 | 10 | 85 |
| Total | 192 | 267 |
| 4. SUMMARY | ||
| Home Office and Metropolitan police joint ADP unit | 2,535 | 4,562 |
| Other police purposes | 4,439 | 6,096 |
| Other non-Police purposes | 192 | 267 |
| Total | 7,166 | 10,925 |
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will update his written answer to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West on 7 July 1977, relating to computers; and if, differentiating between police computers and non-police computers, he will list the computer centres in England and Wales for which he is responsible and the number of employees in each centre; what is the capacity in terms of each computer so listed; what kind of information is being programmed; and what use is made of the information so programmed.
The information requested is as follows:
Police national computer unit
This unit, which operates on behalf of police authorities throughout Great Britain, has about 420 staff, three central processors with a core capacity of 1 million words and holds information relating to the prevention and detection of crime. The service is available only to the police, except for information on vehicle ownership supplied by Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre, Swansea.
Home Office and Metropolitan Police joint automatic data processing unit
This unit has about 600 staff, four central processors with a total core capacity of 704K words and information on both Metropolitan Police matters—chiefly pay, personnel records, traffic tickets, catering accounts, Inner London magistrates' courts accounts, forensic work—and on Home Office matters—chiefly pay, a location index of inmates of prison service establishments and statistical work, including criminal statistics.
Radio regulatory computer installation
Six Home Office staff are employed solely in respect of this installation, the majority of programming work being carried out by commercial contract. The four central processor units have a total core capacity of 256K words and deal with the allocation of frequencies in connection with licensing the use of private mobile radio.
Metropolitan Police vehicle fleet management system
Five Metropolitan Police office staff are employed solely in respect of this system. The installation has one central processor and a core capacity of 32K words. Operational information about Metropolitan Police vehicles is programmed in and used for fleet management.
Metropolitan Police C department computer system
This unit is staffed by members of the joint ADP unit and the number of staff is included in the figure for that unit. The size of the machine is classified information. The system contains information on crime, criminals and their associates and is used in the prevention and detection of crime.
Other computers
Smaller installations include one with a capacity of 28K words used in stock control at Home Office supply and transport depots; a computer with 192K words capacity used for research and programme development and a computer with 16K words capacity holding details of materials dealt with by the forensic science service in the course of operational and research work. The latter two installations are part of the technical support provided by the Home Office to police forces in England and Wales.
Research and development on computerized systems
| Research and development on equipment
| Research and development on the chemistry and physics of fingerprints
| Total expenditure
| ||||
| £000s | |||||||
| 1968–69 | … | … | … | 41 | 176 | 9 | 226 |
| 1969–70 | … | … | … | 68 | 184 | 8 | 260 |
| 1970–71 | … | … | … | 119 | 398 | 8 | 525 |
| 1971–72 | … | … | … | 317 | 319 | 18 | 654 |
| 1972–73 | … | … | … | 335 | 503 | 71 | 909 |
| 1973–74 | … | … | … | 373 | 784 | 53 | 1,213 |
| 1974–75 | … | … | … | 378 | 1,223 | 66 | 1,667 |
| 1975–76 | … | … | … | 432 | 993 | 97 | 1,522 |
| 1976–77 | … | … | … | 558 | 1,498 | 122 | 2,178 |
| 1977–78 | … | … | … | 586 | 1,162 | 96 | 1,844 |
The figures for 1968–69 are estimated. Total expenditure for other years is at out-turn figures.
Police Scientific Development Branch
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the purpose of the Police Scientific Development Branch; when it was set up; what are its terms of reference; what are the projects that it is currently engaged upon; what is the capital cost for each project; and what was the annual expenditure on each project for the past 10 years.
The branch was formed in 1963 as a result of recommendations made by the 1962 Royal Commission on the Police, which in its report—Cmnd. 1728—proposed a central Government unit, charged with the planning of police methods, the development of new equipment, and the study of new techniques, so as to enable the police service to deal promptly and efficiently with changes in the pattern of crime and in the behaviour of criminals. The branch's work is described more fully in chapter VI of the 1977 report of Her Majesty's chief inspector of constabulary—Cmnd. 545. Appendix IX of that report lists the main projects currently undertaken by the branch. Similar information for previous years is given in earlier reports by Her Majesty's chief inspector. Capital expenditure on buildings, plant and machinery is common to all projects and is not apportioned separately. For the purposes of the last part of the question, the considerable number of projects has been grouped under subject headings. Expenditure under each heading was as follows:Expenditure on the development of computerised systems in local forces includes contributions by those police authorities which were concerned with joint experiments with the branch.
Police (Computers)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list by name the police forces which have methods of computer storage and retrieval of criminal information that are compatible with methods of national record keeping; what is the capital expenditure for each force; and what is the annual expenditure for the longest period possible.
So far as I am aware, apart from the experimental scheme being conducted jointly by the Thames Valley police and the Home Office, computer-aided criminal information systems are fully operational in only two other police areas in England and Wales—in Cheshire and Suffolk. None of these systems is connected to other police computers or to the national criminal record office. Therefore the question of computer systems compatibility does not arise. I am writing to the two police authorities concerned and will pass on to my hon. Friend the information which I receive about costs.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department which police computer systems in England and Wales incorporate collator records; and which are programmed to make methods to facilitate the handling of a large volume of information which is gathered in any major crime investigation stating the capital costs for each system and for the longest period possible, the annual operating costs.
So far as I am aware, the Thames Valley Police system is the only computer scheme incorporating collator records. The scheme is a joint Home Office—police experiment to assess, among other things, the value of storing and processing such information. The cost of the system is estimated to be £728,000. Operating costs, excluding overheads such as accommodation, were £172,000 in 1978, the latest year for which firm figures are available. No police computer is dedicated, or has the main part of its capacity devoted, to handling information gathered during major crime investigations. The scope for using computers to assist in such investigations is the subject of research project being carried out by the Home Office.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) which police forces have systems for command and control schemes based on the use of computers, which help in handling requests for assistance from the public, aid dispatch of personnel and equipment, record, monitor and store such information for management purposes, stating for each such force the capital costs and the annual expenditure for the longest period possible; and which schemes are operational or in process of installation;(2) for each police computer assisted command and control system, what programmes exist for computer tabulated reports, the extent to which they are used and monitored and the development of such integrated systems; and whether they are compatible with other systems throughout the country and compatible with methods of national record keeping.
Schemes are operational, partly or fully, in the following police forces in England and Wales:
- Suffolk.
- Dorset.
- Staffordshire.
- West Midlands.
- West Yorkshire.
- Bedfordshire.
Force expenditure on such schemes is a matter for the police authorities concerned. But I am writing to each of the authorities concerned and will pass on to my hon. Friend, as soon as possible, the information about costs which I receive.
Each computer system is capable of producing information for management. How such information is tabulated is a matter for each police force, although Home Office advice based on the result of pilot schemes is available. There is no need for computer compatibility between one such scheme and another, nor is information of the kind collected locally by these schemes collated nationally.
Interpol (Computer Terminals)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in which cities in England and Wales there are Interpol computer terminals; what was the cost of installation of each; what have been the annual operating costs for the longest period possible; and if he will identify by nature the kinds of Interpol terminals that there are in London and any other location in England and Wales stating the installation cost and for the longest period of time possible the annual operating costs for each.
There are no Interpol terminals in England and Wales, nor, so far as I am aware, does Interpol have a computer system to which terminals could be linked.
Chilean, Argentinian And Brazilian Nationals
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many nationals of Chile, Argentina and Brazil, respectively, have been allowed to take up residence in the United Kingdom in each of the past five years.
The number of nationals of Argentina, Brazil and Chile, admitted to the United Kingdom for settlement or accepted for settlement on removal of the time limit attached when initially admitted, is published in the annual Command Papers the latest of which, "Control of Immigration: Statistics 1977"—Cmnd. 7160—was published in April 1978.
Policemen (Training)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will review arrangements for the training of policemen in matters concerning race and community relations;(2) if he will commission a study of the courses provided by the United States Forces on racial awareness, with a view to improving the training given to British policemen in this regard.
Police training in race and community relations is kept under regular review by chief officers and others concerned. I shall be happy to consider, in consultation with chief officers, any suggestions, including suggestions based on experience in the United States, which my hon. Friend may have for improvements in present arrangements.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will approve proposals to extend the period of formal training of policemen.
I have no present plans to increase the training provided centrally for police officers. I would consider any proposals for doing so carefully in the light of the advice of the Police training council and the need to make the best use of the resources available.
Police Recruits (Tests)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will place in the Library copies of attitude and all other tests used in the selection of recruits to the police force.
All forces in England and Wales require candidates who do not possess prescribed educational qualifications to take a standard entrance test. Details of the test are given in Home Office circular No. 4/1974, a copy of which is in the Library of the House. A few forces require candidates to take an additional test of written English. Attitude tests are not used: a candidate's suitability is assessed at an interview with senior police officers.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will advise the police authorities that a condition of the completion of the probation period for new policemen shall be satisfactory reports on attitudes to ethnic minorities.
No. It is for the chief officer of police to determine, in the light of a constable's performance of his duties during the probationary period, whether his appointment should not be confirmed on the grounds that his attitudes make him unsuitable for police work.
Metropolitan Police (Pay)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what salary is paid to a newly-qualified police constable in the Metropolitan area.
The basic pay of a Metropolitan Police constable on appointment is £3,189 a year, if he is less than 22 years old, rising after two years—the normal period of probationary service—to £3,747. The salary of a constable aged 22 or over on appointment in his first three years of service is £3,747. In addition, such officers receive £319 a year London weighting and £325 a year London allowance, together with overtime payments and rent allowance as appropriate.
Unruly Girls
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from the Association of Magisterial Officers, particularly the East Anglian branch, questioning the proposed loss of power to remand girls aged 15 or 16 years to prison department establishments, in view of the fact that during 1977 the courts in East Anglia were not able to find other secure accommodation in five cases of certified unruly girls; and what repy he has given.
I have received representations from the Association of Magisterial Officers and, through hon. Members, from nine branches of the Association, including East Anglia. In reply I have stated that the phasing out of remands of juveniles to prison department establishments is in accordance with the undertaking given by the Government in response to the first recommendation of the Eleventh Report of the Expenditure Committee—Cmnd. 6494; that the number of girls involved is small—119 certificates of unruliness were issued between January and October 1978; and that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services is satisfied that local authorities have the capacity to cope with this additional responsibility. I understand that six secure places for girls are under constuction in East Anglia and that, at present, satisfactory inter-regional arrangements exist for the placement of girls on remand.
Police Force (Race Relations)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will draw to the attention of chief constables the fact that any form of racial prejudice is incompatible with the professional standards required, and that no member of the force should have a history of discrimination towards any section of the community which he is concerned to protect.
Chief officers of police do not need any reminder from me that racial prejudice has no place in the police service. They are already well aware of the need to recruit only those who are likely to perform their duties impartially, and the arrangements for selection ensure that a candidate's full history is considered before a decision is made. The importance of avoiding action that might be construed as racially prejudiced is emphasised in police training, and in supervision by senior officers.
Private Security
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to publish the consultative document on the private security industry.
I hope that the discussion paper on the private security industry can be published in three or four weeks' time.
Prisoners
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the current weekly cost of keeping a prisoner (a) in a top security prison (b) in a closed prison, (c) in an open prison, (d) in a borstal and (e) in a remand home.
Information in the form requested is not readily available. During the financial year 1977–78 the average weekly cost of keeping a male in a prison or remand centre was £92, and in borstal £104. The average cost of keeping a female in custody was £127 a week.
Identification Parades
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many occasions since the issue of his Department's circular 109/78, governing identification parade procedure, applications have been made to court for the disclosure of the names and addresses of identification parade participants on behalf of defendants in accordance with the provisions of rule 22, sub-rule 10, of that circular; how many such applications were successful and how many were refused; and if he will make a statement on the operation of this procedure.
I regret that the information requested is not readily available. I am not aware of any difficulty in the operation of the arrangements set out in paragraph 10 of the administrative guidance, but I would be glad to consider any point that my hon. Friend may have in mind.
Overseas Development
Pakistan (Sale Of Vessels)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether she will make a statement on the proposed provision of ships to Pakistan partly paid for out of the aid budget of her Department.
I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply given to the hon. Member for
| UNITED KINGDOM GROSS DISBURSEMENTS—FINANCIAL YEARS FROM APRIL 1975 | ||||||||||
| £'000 | ||||||||||
| Financial Years | ||||||||||
| 1975–76 | 1976–77 | 1977–78* | 1978† | Total | ||||||
| Zambia | ||||||||||
| Government loans | … | … | … | — | — | — | 780 | 780 | ||
| Commonwealth Development Corporation (CDC) loans | … | … | … | 2,980 | 510 | 2,576 | 655 | 6,721 | ||
| Financial grants | … | … | … | … | 1,631 | 1,991 | 4,744 | 2,371 | 10,737 | |
| Technical co-operation | … | … | … | 5,937 | 6,752 | 7,089 | 1,884 | 21,662 | ||
| Total | … | … | … | … | … | 10,548 | 9,253 | 14,409 | 5,690 | 39,900 |
| Mozambique | ||||||||||
| Government loans | … | … | … | — | 40 | 2,910 | 2,045 | 4,995 | ||
| CDC loans | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | — |
| Financial grants | … | … | … | … | — | 20 | — | 1,322 | 1,342 | |
| Technical co-operation | … | … | … | 25 | 5 | 55 | 11 | 96 | ||
| Total | … | … | … | … | … | 25 | 65 | 2,965 | 3,378 | 6,433 |
| Angola | ||||||||||
| Financial grants—Disaster relief | … | … | — | — | — | 52 | 52 | |||
| Total | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | 52 | 52 |
| GRAND TOTAL | … | … | … | 10,573 | 9,318 | 17,374 | 9,120 | 46,385(i) | ||
| (i) of which:— | ||||||||
| Government loans | … | … | … | … | 5,775 | |||
| CDC loans | … | … | … | … | … | … | 6,721 | |
| Grants | … | … | … | … | … | … | 12,131 | |
| TC | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 21,758 |
| * Provisional. | ||||||||
| †April to September. | ||||||||
Pakistan (Aid)
asked the Minister of Overseas Development whether she will state the amount of aid allocated to Pakistan in each of the past five years and indicate how much of that aid was unspent.
The estimates and expenditures of bilateral capital aid to
Surrey, North-west (Mr. Grylls) yesterday—[Vol.961, c. 513.]
Financial Assistance
asked the Minister of Overseas Development what is the total amount of credit, loans and financial aid made available to Cuba, Angola, Mozambique and Zambia by public or private sources since May 1975.
I cannot conveniently provide information from May 1975. The following gives the information by financial years from April 1975 for official flows—no United Kingdom aid was made available to Cuba in this period. Records of transactions involving private sources are available from Department of Trade publications.Pakistan for each of the past five years as published in the Appropriation accounts are set out in the table below:
| £ million | ||
| Estimate | Expenditure | |
| 1973–74 | 2·759 | 2·986 |
| 1974–75 | 3·313 | 2·934 |
| 1975–76 | 4·252 | 3·929 |
| 1976–77 | 17·550 | 15·292 |
| 1977–78 | 18·959 | 17·196 |
Energy
North Sea Oil
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what proportion of oil from United Kingdom North Sea fields has been refined in the United Kingdom in each of the past six months for which figures are available.
The proportion of United Kingdom continental shelf crude oil delivered to United Kingdom refineries for refining in each of the past six months for which figures are available were:
| 1978 | |
| June | 54·6 per cent. |
| July | 48·0 per cent. |
| August | 59·5 per cent. |
| September | 57·8 per cent. |
| October | 51·1 per cent. |
| November | 57·6 per cent. |