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Written Answers

Volume 963: debated on Thursday 8 March 1979

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Written Answers To Questions

Thursday 8 March 1979

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q4.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 8 March.

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q14.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his public engagements for Thursday 8 March.

026.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his official engagements for 8 March.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 8 March.

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his engagements for 8 March.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for 8 March.

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 8 March.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister whether he will list his official engagements for 8 March.

Q36.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 8 March.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for 8 March.

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his public engagements for 8 March.

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his official engagements for Thursday 8 March.

asked the Prime Minister if he will list his engagements for Thursday 8 March.

I refer the hon. Members and my hon. Friends to the reply which I gave today to the hon. Member for Hereford (Mr. Shepherd).

National Economic Development Council

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister when he last took the chair at the National Economic Development Council.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to the hon. Member for Fife, Central (Mr. Hamilton) on 15 February.

House Of Commons

Members' Salaries

asked the Lord President of the Council if he will publish in the Official Report a list showing the extent to which hon. Members' salaries would have to be increased to achieve, the same increases as obtained since 1974 by miners, dockers, road haulage workers, print workers, engineers and any other stated groups for which information is readily available.

I have been asked to reply.New earnings survey estimates of percentage increases in average weekly earnings are given below for men in selected occupational groups. They relate to the period from April 1974 to April 1978. The basic parliamentary salary increased by 53 per cent. in this period.

INCREASES FROM APRIL 1974–78 IN AVERAGE GROSS WEEKLY EARNINGS FOR FULL-TIME MEN WHOSE PAY FOR THE SURVEY PAY PERIOD WAS NOT AFFECTED BY ABSENCE
Non-manual Occupational GroupsIncrease (per cent.)
Accounts80·0
Electrical and electronic engineers93·0
Mechanical engineers90·0
Engineering draughtsmen95·0
Medical practitioners86·0
General clerks87·0
Policemen (below Sergeant)89·0
Manual Occupational Groups
Hospital porters87·0
General farm workers75·0
Compositors85·0
Printing machine minders84·0
Maintenance fitters (non-electrical)87·0
Motor vehicle mechanics (skilled)85·0
Bricklayers70·0
Face-trained coal miners114·0
Heavy goods drivers (over 3 tons)83·0
Other goods drivers74·0
Stevedores and dockers73·0

Education And Science

University Technicians (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, in the light of the deep concern felt by university technicians concerning their low pay, and further to the letter from the hon. Member for Newham, North-West dated 26 February, what action she has taken or intends taking to prevent industrial confrontation in the universities; and whether she will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend recently met my hon. Friend the Member for Barking (Miss Richardson) together with representatives of the Association of Scientific, Technical and Managerial Staffs and agreed to look again at the problem of university technicians' pay. Official of my Department have also held a joint meeting with representatives of the university authorities and of the unions concerned. I hope to be in a position to make a statement soon.

Radioactive Emissions

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the intensity of the radioactive emissions in the immediate vicinity of a live human body.

The radiation dose to an individual which derives from naturally occurring radionuclides within his or her own body is due primarily to the radioisotope potassium 40. In an average adult the annual absorbed dose is 17m rads to the whole body and the same to the gonads.In areas of "normal" background radiation the absorbed dose to the whole body and gonads from external sources, that is, cosmic rays and radiation from radioactive materials in soil and rocks, etc. amounts to some 60m rads per year.

Pupil-Teacher Ratio (West Midlands)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the current pupil-teacher ratio in (a) primary schools and (b) secondary schools in the West Midlands area; and what she estimates these ratios will be by 1983.

In January 1978, the latest date for which information is available, the pupil-teacher ratios in maintained schools in the West Midlands metropolitan county were 24·5 in primary schools and 16·5 in secondary schools.The Government's expenditure plans provide for improvement in the national pupil-teacher ratio; but it is not possible to forecast how this will be reflected in pupil-teacher ratios in the schools of particular areas since it is for individual authorities to determine how many teachers to employ in the light of their own needs and circumstances.

Nursery Schools (Lambeth)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the proportion of nursery school places to children under five years in the Lambeth partnership area; and how this will be improved by current plans.

I understand from the ILEA that there are at present 1,030 full-time equivalent places in nursery schools and classes in the Lambeth partnership area. This compares with a 3- and 4-year-old population of approximately 5,400. This figure is based on the 1976 census figures, which are the latest available.There are plans for starts to be made on nine new nursery class projects in the building years 1978–82. These will provide a total of 260 additional full-time equivalent places. Eight of the projects are programmed under the inner cities partnership scheme. The final project is programmed under my Department's nursery education building programme.A further bid for resources for additional nursery provision has been submitted under the partnership programme for the building year 1982–83.

Northern Ireland

Prisons

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement about the present situation of prisons in Northern Ireland.

The protest against the ending of special category status continues amongst a minority of prisoners in Maze and Armagh prisons. The situation is under control and all prisoners are being treated in accordance with prison rules. As I have said on many previous occasions, there will be no going back on the policy of phasing out special treatment for persons convicted and sentenced to imprisonment by the courts, and there will be no amnesty.

Irish Republican Army

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he has made any representations in recent weeks to the Government of the Republic of Ireland concerning the activities of the Irish Republican Army.

I discussed our common approach to the threat from the IRA with the Foreign Minister on 14 February. We agreed on the need for close co-operation at all levels.

Irish Citizens (Accommodation Addresses)

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will outline the measures that have been taken by the Southern Education and Library Board to avoid abuses of the education system by citizens of the Irish Republic using accommodation addresses in Northern Ireland.

The Southern Education and Library Board has made arrangements for the addresses stated on application forms by persons either holding or applying for awards to be checked. I am satisfied that these arrangements will provide a satisfactory safeguard against abuses by persons not entitled to benefit from the education system in Northern Ireland.

School Transfer Procedures

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he is satisfied with the school transfer procedures presently operating in Northern Ireland.

The Government do not regard as satisfactory any method of transfer to secondary education which involves selection by perceived ability at 11-plus, but consider that the revised transfer procedure in operation this year has some advantages over the former 11-plus examination.

Security Forces (Crowd Control)

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland under what circumstances the security forces may open fire on a crowd in Northern Ireland.

In general terms, the security forces may open fire only in self-defence, or to protect the lives of others, when the threat cannot be dealt with by other means.

James Taylor

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the circumstances surrounding the death of James Taylor, near Coagh, in September 1978.

Mr. James Taylor was shot dead near Coagh, Co. Tyrone on 30 September 1978. A full police report on the incident has been furnished to the Director of Public Prosecutions. In due course an inquest will be held in public. It would not be right for me to comment further at this stage.

House Building

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many houses were built by the Northern Ireland Housing Trust and city and borough councils in the two financial years 1967–68 and also the number of houses built by the Northern Ireland Housing Executive in the two financial years 1976 to 1978.

In 1966–67 and 1967–68 the Northern Ireland Housing Trust and the county borough and borough councils completed 4,699 and 5,281 houses respectively. In 1976–77 and 1977–78 the Northern Ireland Housing Executive completed 7,224 and 6,715 houses respectively.

Rents

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what study he has made of rent increases in the public and private sectors which have occurred in the past six months.

I am currently examining what changes might be made in public sector rents and am monitoring changes in private sector rents following the enactment of the Rent Order (Northern Ireland) 1978.

Republic Of Ireland (Foreign Minister)

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement about his recent meeting with the Foreign Minister of the Irish Republic.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Eastbourne (Mr. Gow).

Energy

International Energy Agency

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement about the meeting of the governing board of the International Energy Agency on 1 and 2 March.

At its meeting on 1 and 2 March the governing board of the International Energy Agency agreed on the programme of action to deal with the present difficult situation in the world's oil markets. It provides for firm, prompt and co-ordinated action by the participating countries to reduce demand for oil on the world market by the order of 2 million barrels per day which would correspond to about 5 per cent. of IEA consumption.The Government strongly endorse this programme of action and particularly welcome the fact that all member countries of the International Energy Agency were able to support it. On this basis we shall be preparing, as soon as possible, specific measures for the United Kingdom's contribution to the common effort. They will include a substantial reduction in the use of oil in power stations.

Following is the programme:

Action on the Oil Market situation in 1979

Adopted by the Government board on 1–2 March, 1979

The governing board

  • (a) having examined the present difficult situation in the world oil market, concluded that due to the current supply shortfall there exists a serious risk that in 1979 oil supplies could fall short of anticipated oil demand by some 2 mb/d;
  • (b) having recognised that there are major uncertainties about the future oil market situation which require continued ongoing assessment of actual developments;
  • (c) having concluded that failure to take timely action at this stage could result in further deterioration over the coming months;
  • (d) having agreed that the impact of the potential shortfall, if uncontrolled, in itself and mits effect on prices, particularly in the spot market, could lead to grave damage to the world economy;
  • (e) agreed that participatig countries should take firm, prompt and coordinated action
  • (i) to improve the supply/demand balance;
  • (ii) to implement flexible stock policies, while providing an adequate level of stocks prior to next winter;
  • (iii) to relieve current abnormal market conditions, with their pressures on prices;
  • (f) agreed that IEA countries will contribute to a stabilisation of the world situation by reducing their demand for oil on the world market. The reduction would be in the order of 2 mb/d which would correspond to about 5 per cent. of IEA consumption. Each par ticipating country will regard this as guidance
  • in the policies it will pursue to achieve its contribution to this reduction. These policies are expected to yield equivalent results in Participating Countries;
  • (g) agreed accordingly that each participating country will take short-term action by promptly applying effective and adequate methods appropriate to its individual circumstances to:
  • (i) reduce demand for oil
    • — by more efficient use of energy and avoidance of energy consumption which is not essential for maintaining a high level of economic activity;
    • — by utilising existing possibilities for short term fuel switching away from oil, replacing it wherever possible by alternative forms of energy;
  • (ii) maintain and develop indigenous energy production at high levels;
  • (iii) take into account the potential to shift to non-premium grades of crude oil, adjusting regulatory systems wherever possible and advisable;
  • (iv) adopt, where necessary, domestic pricing policies which would support the achievement of the above objective;
  • (h) agreed that the short-term situation must be viewed against the background of its long-term implications for the energy market, and that consequently these short-term actions should, insofar as possible, be consistent with and reinforce current and prospective actions of a longer term nature (including the development of alternative resources) which would contribute to the maintenance and improvement of oil market balance;
  • (i) noted and welcomed statements by individual countries on action already taken or under consideration in order to meet the present situation;
  • (j) expressed its expectation that oil companies pay particular attention in the present situation to the need for the fair distribution of oil among consuming countries;
  • (k) noted that the foregoing measures should contribute substantially to the maintenance of a reasonable flow of oil supplies to other countries as well as to IEA countries;
  • (l) welcomed the actions by oil-producing countries to maintain high production;
  • (m) instructed the Standing Group on Emergency Questions and the Standing Group on the Oil Market to monitor carefully the oil supply situation as it develops and the adequacy of measures taken by Participating Countries to cope with the situation, to meet jointly each month for that purpose and to report to the Governing Board with recommendations as appropriate;
  • (n) agreed to keep world oil market conditions under close review and to adjust the IEA response in accordance with changing developments.
  • London Electricity Board (Members' Pay And Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the current annual remuneration of a non-executive member of the board of London Electricity; what expenses are currently claimable by such a member in the exercise of his functions; and at what rate.

    The current annual remuneration payable is £1,100. Reasonable travelling and subsistance expenses are reimbursed within the discretion of the chairman of the board.

    National Coal Board

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will publish a table showing the cost in wages and salaries of all employees of the National Coal Board in each of the last 10 years and the number of employees in each of those years; and if he will show the proportionate increase in earnings per head, and the quantity of coal produced.

    This is a matter for the National Coal Board and I am asking the chairman to write to the hon. Member.

    Gas Tariffs

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what action he proposes to take to delay the proposed 10 per cent. rise in the price of average domestic gas tariffs, in view of the substantial surplus shown in the accounts of the British Gas Corporation.

    I understand that the British Gas Corporation has now made application to increase domestic tariffs from 1 April by about 8 per cent. Otherwise I have nothing to add to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Derby, South (Mr. Johnson) on 20 February.

    Electicity Boards (Rebates)

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the cost of rebates which are being given by area electricity boards to senior citizens who are in receipt of rate rebates; and whether a similar system of relief is proposed for people whose home is heated by gas.

    This assistance is given by the Government under the electricity discount scheme to which £45 million has been allocated to cover both the costs of discounts and the £5 payment to recipients of supplementary benefit and family income supplement. Actual costs of the discount will depend on the number claiming it but over 2 million retirement pensioners may be eligible to do so. The scheme runs from 1 January to 30 June—the last date for claiming discount vouchers at post offices—and it is not intended to extend it to gas consumers.

    Coal Converted Oil

    asked the Secertay of State for Energy what percentage of United Kingdom oil needs he expects will be supplied by coal converted oil by 1985.

    No commercial quantities of synthetic crude oil from coal are expected to be supplied in the United Kingdom by 1985.

    Coal Production

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what was the aggregate tonnage of coal produced during 1977–78 at those National Coal Board collieries which showed an operating profit.

    I am asking the chairman of the National Coal Board to write to my hon. Friend with the information.

    Advisory Council On Energy Conservation

    asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is his reaction to the second report of the Advisory Council on Energy Conservation, Energy Paper No. 31.

    I have written to the chairman of the council, Sir William Hawthorne, expressing my gratitude for the efforts of the council, many of whose recommendations have been incorporated in Government policy. I have placed a copy of my letter in the Library of the House.

    Environment

    Scottish And Welsh Assemblies

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether all authority for expenditure from central Government funds on the provision of buildings, accommodation, fittings and equipment for (a) the Scottish and (b) the Welsh Assemblies has been terminated since Friday 2 March; and whether notice has been given since that date terminating all incompleted contracts.

    In Scotland work under existing contracts at the Royal high school and St. Andrew's House is continuing pending decisions on the future of the devolution proposals but no further work will be commissioned until a decision is made. The Cardiff Exchange is held on a 20-year lease, with a break clause after 10; rental payments remain a firm commitment. Work on the conversion of the Exchange was suspended

    SubmittedDate of submissionDate of notice of approval
    Greater London development planAugust 19699 July 1976
    Solihull15 March 19736 May 1975
    Warwickshire29 March 197328 July 1975
    Coventry5 April 19735 May 1975
    Worcestershire23 May 197328 July 1975
    South Hampshire23 January 197410 March 1977
    West Bromwich14 February 197417 May 1978
    Wolverhampton15 February 197417 May 1978
    Birmingham22 March 197417 May 1978
    Walsall26 March 197417 May 1978
    Warley26 March 197417 May 1978
    Dudley27 March 197417 May 1978
    Staffordshire4 March 197411 April 1978
    Stoke-on-Trent20 March 197411 April 1978
    Burton upon Trent28 March 197411 April 1978
    Leicester—Leicestershire20 March 197427 May 1976
    Hereford21 March 197426 January 1976
    Teeside27 March 197431 October 1977
    East Cleveland2 January 197531 October 1977
    West Cleveland2 January 197531 October 1977
    East Sussex23 July 197517 May 1978
    Isle of Wight24 March 19768 February 1979
    Hertfordshire5 April 1976
    Peak District National Park23 August 1976
    Oxfordshire1 September 197626 February 1979
    Buckinghamshire2 February 1977
    Humberside4 March 1977
    Suffolk10 March 1977
    Norfolk21 March 1977
    Bedfordshire18 April 1977
    Cheshire2 May 1977
    Derbyshire2 May 1977
    Leicestershire (Rutland)10 August 1977
    West Berkshire22 August 197726 February 1979
    Kent14 September 1977
    Northamptonshire30 November 1977
    South Yorkshire7 February 1978
    Surrey3 April 1978
    Cleveland (Hartlepool)15 May 1978
    Central Berkshire7 June 1978
    East Berkshire7 June 1978
    South-East Dorset14 June 1978
    Salop16 June 1978
    West Sussex10 July 1978
    North-East Hampshire27 July 1978
    North-East Lancashire31 August 1978
    Mid-Hampshire28 September 1978
    Hereford and Worcester (Worcester City)6 October 1978
    Cambridgeshire28 December 1978
    Nottinghamshire13 February 1979
    South Wiltshire26 February 1979
    TOTAL SUBMITTED—51TOTAL APPROVED—24
    following the statement by my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales on 7 April 1977.—[Vol. 929, c. 604.]

    County Structure Plans

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment which county structure plans he has approved; which are being considered by his Department; and which have yet to be submitted to his Department.

    The list of county structure plans in England is as follows:

    To be submitted
    AvonCornwall
    Cumbria and Lake District National Park (Joint)Devon
    Dorset (excluding South-East)Durham
    EssexGloucestershire
    Greater ManchesterHampshire (South West)
    Isles of ScillyLancashire (Central and North)
    LincolnshireNorthumberland
    North YorkshireSomerset
    Tyne and WearWest Yorkshire
    Wiltshire (North)Wiltshire (West)
    TOTAL NOT YET SUBMITTED—20

    Rate Fund Services

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total gross expenditure in England and Wales on rate fund services for each year since 1970–71, including an estimate for 1978–79; and what was the total expenditure on wages and salaries expressed as a percentage of gross expenditure on rate fund services for each year.

    The available information is as follows:

    AMOUNTS (£ MILLIONS AT OUTTURN PRICES) CHARGED TO THE RATE FUND
    Gross revenue expenditure(1)Wages and salaries(2)(b) as a percentage of (a)
    (a)(b)
    1970–714,6192,34750·8
    1971–725,4152,80451·8
    1972–736,3483,33552·5
    1973–747,7183,85750·0
    1974–75 (3).9,8205,13152·3
    1975–7612,6206,61952·5
    1976–7714,3767,55252·5
    1977–7815,7468,11251·5
    Precise figures for 1978–79 will not be available until September 1979, although the estimates made at the time of the rate support grant settlement in November 1978 envisaged an increase in net revenue expenditure charged to the rate fund between 1977–78 and 1978–79 of about 11 per cent.NOTES.

  • (1) All expenditure charged to rate fund service accounts including transfers and recharges between services and accounts—e.g. recharged administrative expenses—which results in substantial duplication. This duplication is not reflected in the figures for wages and salaries.
  • (2) Gross pay, including employers' national insurance contributions and all superannuation contributions and un-funded pension payments.
  • (3) Comparisons before and after 1974–75 will be affected by the changes in service responsibility in April 1974 when certain health, water and sewerage services ceased to be local authority responsibilities.
  • Ministers' Cars

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the restrictions on the use of Ministers' cars for private purposes by Ministers is also imposed upon former Prime Ministers who have official cars; and how this operates.

    Local Authorities (Pensions)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total cost to the rate fund in England and Wales of local government pension funds for each year since 1974–75.

    The total costs to the rate fund in England and Wales of employers' contributions to local government pension funds and provision for pension increases were as follows:

    £ million
    1974–75203·47
    1975–76299·38
    1976–77368·18
    1977–78418·20

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, what proportions of local authority (a) staff and (b) manual workers in England and Wales are members of index-linked pension schemes.

    The percentages of local government employees—excluding teachers, firemen and police—in the index-linked local government superannuation scheme are: non-manual staff 85 per cent.; manual employees 60 per cent. Employees who are members of the scheme are contracted out of the earnings-related part of the State scheme. Other employees—part-timers and manual employees who opted to remain outside the local government scheme—are subject to the earnings-related part of the State scheme under which pensions are also index-linked.

    Water Authorities (Staff Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what percentage of the running costs of the National Water Council and regional water authorities was consumed in staff costs in each year since 1974–75, including 1978–79.

    Employee costs, expressed as a percentage of total revenue expenditure, of the National Water Council and the regional water authorities for the years 1974–75 to 1977–78, were:

    1974–7524 per cent.
    1975–7625 per cent.
    1976–7725 per cent.
    1977–7824 percent.
    Figures for 1978–79 are not yet available.

    Rate Support Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what percentage of relevant expenditure in each English non-metropolitan county, metropolitan district, London borough and Welsh county was paid in rate support grant in each year since 1974–75, including an estimate for 1979–80.

    I shall send details of local authorities' net revenue expenditure outturn in the years 1974–75 to 1977–78, and of its financing from rate support grant, to the hon. Member as soon as possible. Outturn information for 1978–79 is not yet available. However, local authorities' budget estimates of new revenue expenditure and income from rate support grant in 1978–79 have been published by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy in "Financial, General and Rating Statistics 1978–79", a copy of which is in the Library. For 1979–80, expenditure and grant estimates for individual authorities are not yet available.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what share of total rate support grant in 1979–80 is allocated to (a) English non-metropoiitan counties, including districts, (b) English metropolitan districts, (c) London boroughs and (d) Welsh counties, including districts.

    At this stage it is not possible to calculate the distribution of resources and domestic element grants for 1979–80.For needs element, which at main order is 61 per cent. of the estimated aggregate of rate support grants, the allocation is:

    Per cent.
    (a)English non-metropolitan counties, including districts45·9
    (b) English metropolitan districts26·3
    (c) London boroughs22·1
    (d) Welsh counties, including districts5·7

    Local Authorities (Debt)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for each local authority in England and Wales for the latest date for which information is available (a) the total outstanding debt of that authority and (b) the outstanding debt of the authority per head of its population.

    Details for each authority in England and Wales of outstanding debt and population are published by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy in "Return of Outstanding Debt as at 31 March 1978"—statistical information service, November 1978—a copy of which is in the Library.

    Local Authorities (Government Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the taxpayers' total contribution to the cost of local government in the Greater London area in 1977–78 and 1978–79; and what he estimates it will be in the next financial year.

    Central Government grant and subsidy contributions to all local authorities in the Greater London area in 1977–78 amounted to about £1,609 million. Comprehensive estimates for later years are not yet readily available.

    Public Buildings (Works Of Art)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make arrangements whereby 1 per cent. of the cost of new public buildings is spent on works of art within those buildings.

    Welsh Assembly

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total cost to date of the acquisition and conversion of the building in Cardiff for the proposed Welsh Assembly; what would be the cost of completing the conversion work; and whether he will now give instructions for the building to be sold as quickly as possible.

    The estimated cost of converting the Exchange building for use by the Welsh Assembly is £3,500,000 of which some £42,000 has been spent on preparatory work. The building is held on a 20-year lease with a break after 10 years. The future use of the building will be a matter for further consideration.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he has taken to prevent any further expenditure from central Government funds on the provision of buildings, accommodation, fittings and equipment intended for the Welsh Assembly since the result of the referendum became known on Friday 2 March; and what action he is taking to reimburse such expenditure by selling such items or otherwise disposing of them.

    Work on the conversion of the Exchange for use by the Welsh Assembly was suspended following the statement by my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales on 7 April 1977.—[Vol. 929, c. 604.] The Exchange is held on a 20-year lease with a break after 10 years. The future use of the building will be a matter for further consideration.

    Home Department

    Shoplifting (Diplomatic Privilege)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give, for the longest most convenient stated period of time, the total number of persons who have been arrested or apprehended on suspicion of stealing and/or shoplifting where no action was taken because these people claimed that they were covered by diplomatic privilege; and what action was taken in each instance.

    The number of offences against the Theft Act 1968, including shoplifting offences, alleged to have been committed in England and Wales in the years 1972 to 1978 by persons entitled to diplomatic immunity where the possibility of criminal proceedings was not pursued in consequence of that entitlement is as follows:

    197220
    197319
    197419
    197522
    197625
    197724
    197823
    Information about each incident is passed by the Home Office to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, whose practice is to bring details of the alleged offences to the attention of the heads of mission concerned.

    Telephone Tapping

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on telephone tapping, in the light of the recent judgment by Sir Robert Megarry.

    I understand that in his judgment in Malone v. Commissioner of Police the Vice-Chancellor found that the interception of a telephone at the request of the police under warrant of a Secretary of State was not illegal under English law. He made it clear that it was not for the English courts to rule on the question whether such interception, as carried out in this country, did or did not comply with the European Convention on Human Rights: only the European Commission and Court of Human Rights could pronounce on that. The Vice-Chancellor drew attention, however, to the fact that the restrictions and safeguards under which interception is conducted are in this country matters of administrative practice only, and not, as in some other countries, of statute; and he expressed the view that this was a matter which cried out for legislation.As regards the European Convention, I am in the same position as the Vice-Chancellor: it is not for me to say what does or does not comply with it. All I can say is that neither the Commission nor the Court has had occasion to consider our practice in this matter. I understand that the plaintiff in the recent action may be considering taking a case to the European Commission: if he decides to do so, we shall see what it says.Legislation is not required to legalise telephone interception. If it is required at all, it would be for the purpose of entrenching in statute the appropriate restrictions and safeguards under which interception is practised. The restrictions and safeguards applicable in this country were scrutinised and commended in 1957 by the Birkett Committee. Its report (Cmnd. 283) has ever since then provided the basis on which interception is carried out, and I can assure the House that it continues to do so today.I recognise the importance of adequate and effective safeguards for the liberty of the subject. I believe that our safeguards are adequate and effective for this purpose. The Vice-Chancellor clearly thought that safeguards should be entrenched in legislation. When the full text of his judgment is available, I shall study it with the greatest care and respect. In carrying out the study and arriving at conclusions of which I will in due course inform the House, I shall have regard not only to the need for safeguards which protect the liberty of the subject but also to the need not to damage the efficacy of a tool of investigation which can be invaluable to the police and the other agencies concerned, when other methods have been tried and have failed, or are unlikely to succeed. As the Birkett Committee said, such damage, so far from strengthening the liberty of the ordinary citizen, might very well have the opposite effect.

    Pentredwfr, Llangollen(Television Reception)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the state of television reception in the area of Pentredwr, Llangollen, Clwyd; and, if not, what steps he proposes to take, in conjunction with or by way of advice to, the British Broadcasting Corporation to improve it.

    The provision of UHF 625-line television services is primarily the responsibility of the broadcasting authorities. The BBC tells us that because of the small and scattered population it has no plans in the foreseeable future for supplementing the available television coverage in the Pentredwr area. It would, however, be prepared to send representatives to the area to give technical advice on possible alternative means of making a UHF television service available to the community.

    Electoral Boundaries (Kent)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects the Parliamentary Boundary Commission to publish its provisional recommendations for constituencies in the county of Kent; and if he will set out its timetable for the submission of representations and the hearing of local inquiries.

    I understand that the Parliamentary Boundary Commission for England is likely to publish its provisional recommendations for constituencies in Kent later this year. The Commission's procedure thereafter will follow that described in my reply to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Tottenham (Mr. Atkinson) on 15 February.—[Vol. 962, c. 589.]

    Data Protection (Lindop Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department which organisations he is consulting about the Lindop report on data protection.

    Consultations on the report of the Data Protection Committee (Cmnd. 7341) are being conducted through several Departments.Table A below lists the organisations being consulted by the Home Office and other London-based Departments. Table B lists the organisations being consulted by the Scottish Office. Table C lists the organisations being consulted by Northern Ireland Departments. My right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Wales will write to the hon. Gentleman about the consultations being conducted by the Welsh Office.

    Table A

    Organisations and Departments concerned

    Access (The Joint Credit Card Company Ltd.)—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    American Express—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Area Health Authorities—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Assistant Masters and Mistresses Association—Department of Education and Science.

    Associated Scottish Life Offices—Department of Trade.

    Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Association of Chief Police Officers of England, Wales and Northern Ireland—Home Office.

    Association of Colleges for Further and Higher Education—Department of Education and Science.

    Association of Community Health Councils for England and Wales—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Association of Computer Users—Department of Industry.

    Association of County Councils—Department of the Environment.

    Association of District Councils—Department of the Environment

    Association of Mail Order Publishers—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Association of Manufacturers of Domestic Electrical Appliances—Department of Industry.

    Association of Metropolitan Authorities—Department of the Environment.

    Association of Nurse Administrators—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Association of Principals of Colleges—Department of Education and Science.

    Association of Scientific, Technical and Managerial Staffs—Department of Employment.

    Association of University Teachers—Department of Education and Science.

    Automobile Association—Department of Transport.

    Barclaycard—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Boards of Governors of Postgraduate Teaching Hospitals—Department of Health and Social Security.

    British Association for the Advancement of Science—Home Office.

    British Association of Social Workers—Department of Health and Social Security.

    British Bankers' Association—Treasury (Bank of England).

    British Computer Society—Home Office.

    British Dental Association—Department of Health and Social Security.

    British Direct Mail Marketing Association—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    British Electrical and Allied Manufacturers Association—Department of Industry.

    British Insurance Association—Department of Trade.

    British Insurance Brokers' Association—Department of Trade.

    British Library Board—Department of Education and Science.

    British Medical Association—Department of Health and Social Security.

    British Printing Industries Federation—Department of Trade.

    British Psychological Society—Home Office.

    British Railways Board—Department of Transport.

    British Security Industries Ltd.—Home Office.

    British Waterways Board—Department of the Environment.

    Building Societies Association—Registrar of Friendly Societies.

    Business Education Council—Department of Education and Science.

    Business Equipment Trade Association—Department of Industry.

    Census Research Group—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Central Midwives Board—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Charities Aid Foundation—Home Office.

    Chemical Industries' Association Ltd.—Department of Industry.

    City and Guilds of London Institute—Department of Education and Science.

    Civil Service National Whitley Council (Staff Side)—Civil Service Department.

    Commissioner for Local Administration in England—Department of the Environment.

    Committee of Directors of Polytechnics—Department of Education and Science.

    Committee of Vice-Chancellors and Principals of Universities of the United Kingdom—Department of Education and Science.

    Community and Youth Services Association—Department of Education and Science.

    Community Medicine Consultative Committee (BMA)—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Computing Services Association—Department of Industry.

    Computing—Home Office.

    Confederation of British Industry—Department of Industry.

    Consultative Committee of Accountancy Bodies—Department of Trade.

    Consumer Credit Association—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Consumers' Association—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Co-operative Wholesale Society Ltd.—Home Office.

    Council for National Academic Awards—Department of Education and Science.

    Council of Technical Examining Bodies—Department of Education and Science.

    Credit Data Ltd.—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Diners Club—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Directors of Social Services—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Dun and Bradstreet Ltd.—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Electricity Users Consumer Council—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Electronic Engineering Association—Department of Industry.

    Faculty of Actuaries (Scotland)—Government Actuary's Department.

    Federation of Civil Engineering Contractors—Department of the Environment.

    Finance Houses Association—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Freemans (London SW9) Ltd.—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Gas Users Consumer Council—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    GCE Examinations Boards:—Department of Education and Science.

    Associated Examining Board for General Certificates of Education.

    Joint Matriculation Board.

    London University Entrance and School Examination Council.

    Oxford and Cambridge Schools Examination Board.

    Oxford Delegacy of Local Examinations.

    University of Cambridge Local Examination Syndicate.

    General Electric Company Ltd.—Department of Industry.

    General Medical Services Committee (BMA)—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Greater London Council—Department of the Environment.

    Headmasters' Association—Department of Education and Science.

    Health Service Commissioner—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Health Visitors' Association—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Howard League for Penal Reform—Home Office.

    Imperial Chemical Industries Ltd.—Department of Industry.

    Industrial Life Offices Association—Industrial Life Assurance Commissioner.

    Industrial Society—Department of Industry.

    Institute of Actuaries—Government Actuary's Department.

    Institute of Chartered Secretaries and Administrators—Department of Trade.

    Institute of Data Processing Management—Home Office.

    Institute of Employment Consultants—Department of Employment.

    Institute of Health Service Administrators—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Institute of Information Scientists—Home Office.

    Institute of Manpower Studies—Department of Employment.

    Institute of Personnel Management—Department of Employment.

    Institute of Statisticians—Cabinet Office (CSO).

    Insurance Brokers Registration Council—Department of Trade.

    International Statistics Institute—Cabinet Office (CSD).

    Joint Consultants Committee (BMA)—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Joint Co-ordinating Committee (Medical Protection Society, Medical and Dental Defence Union of Scotland, Medical Defence Union)—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Joint Matriculation Board—Department of Education and Science.

    Justice—Home Office.

    Law Commission—Lord Chancellor's Office.

    Law Society—Home Office.

    Library Association—Department of Education and Science.

    Life Offices' Association—Department of Trade.

    Lloyd's—Department of Trade.

    Local Authorities' Conditions of Service Advisory Board—Department of the Environment.

    Local Authorities' Management Services Computer Committee—Department of the Environment.

    London Boroughs Association—Department of the Environment.

    London Personal Finance Association—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    London Transport Executive—Department of Transport.

    London University Entrance and School Examinations Council—Department of Education and Science.

    Lucas Aerospace—Department of Industry.

    Machine Tool Trades Association—Department of Industry.

    Mail Order Traders' Association—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Market Research Council—Home Office.

    Management Consultants Association—Department of Industry.

    Medical Research Council—Department of Education and Science.

    Metropolitan Police—Home Office.

    Mining Association of the United Kingdom—Department of Industry.

    National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders—Home Office.

    National Association of Chief Educational Social Workers—Department of Education and Science.

    National Association for Gifted Children—Department of Education and Science.

    National Association of Head Teachers—Department of Education and Science.

    National Association for Mental Health (MIND)—Department of Health and Social Security.

    National Association of Probation Officers—Home Office.

    National Association of Schoolmasters/Union of Women Teachers—Department of Education and Science.

    National Association of Social Workers in Education—Department of Education and Science.

    National Association of Teachers in Higher and Further Education—Department of Education and Science.

    National Association of Trade Protection Societies—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    National Association of Youth Community Education Offices—Department of Education and Science.

    National Bus Company—Department of Transport.

    National Computing Centre Ltd.—Home Office.

    National Consumer Council—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    National Council for Civil Liberties—Home Office.

    National Council for Social Service—Home Office.

    National Council for Voluntary Youth Services—Department of Education and Science.

    National Development Programme in Computer Assisted Learning—Department of Education and Science.

    National Economic Development Office-Department of Industry.

    National Electronics Council—Department of Industry.

    National Farmers' Union—Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.

    National Federation of Building Trades Employers—Department of the Environment.

    National Federation of Consumer Groups—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    National Foundation for Educational Research in England and Wales—Department of Education and Science.

    Nationalised Industries Computer Committee—Department of Industry.

    National Personal Finance Association—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    National Society for Art Education—Department of Education and Science.

    National Union of Students (England)—Department of Education and Science.

    National Union of Teachers—Department of Education and Science.

    National Water Council—Department of the Environment.

    Office of Fair Trading—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Open University—Department of Education and Science.

    Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration—Civil Service Department.

    Patients' Association—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Petroleum Industry Advisory Committee—Department of Energy.

    Police Federation of England and Wales—Home Office.

    Police Superintendents' Association of England and Wales—Home Office.

    Post Office—Department of Industry.

    Post Office Users National Council—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection. Press Council—Home Office.

    Provident Financial Group—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Regional Health Authorities—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Rolls-Royce Ltd.—Department of Industry.

    Royal College of Midwives—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Royal College of Nursing—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Royal Society of Arts—Department of Education and Science.

    Royal Statistical Society—Cabinet Office (CSO).

    Science Research Council—Department of Education and Science.

    Scottish Consumer Council—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Senate of the Inns of Court and the Bar—Home Office.

    Social and Community Planning Research—Home Office.

    Social Science Research Council—Department of Education and Science.

    Social Science Research Council Archive—Home Office.

    Society of Archivists—Home Office.

    Society of Education Officers—Department of Education and Science.

    Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders—Department of Industry.

    Standing Conference for Local History—Home Office.

    Standing Conference of Regional Advisory Councils—Department of Education and Science.

    Stock Exchange—Department of Trade.

    Technician Education Council—Department of Education and Science.

    Telecommunications Engineering and Manufacturing Association—Department of Industry.

    Thorn Electrical Industries Ltd.—Department of Industry.

    Trades Union Congress—Department of Employment.

    University Grants Committee—Department of Education and Science.

    United Association for the Protection of Trade—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Universities Central Council on Admissions—Department of Education and Science.

    University of London—Department of Education and Science.

    Universities Statistical Record—Department of Education and Science.

    Vickers Ltd.—Department of Industry.

    Welsh Consumer Council—Department of Prices and Consumer Protection.

    Table B

    Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland.

    Association of Lecturers in Scottish Central Institutions.

    Association of Scientific, Technical and Managerial Staffs, Scotland.

    Association of Scottish Police Superintendents.

    Centre for Educational Sociology (within Edinburgh University).

    Committee of Principals of Colleges of Education (Scotland).

    Committee of Principals and Directors of Central Institutions (Scotland).

    Common Services Agency for the Scottish Health Service.

    Convention of Scottish Local Authorities.

    Educational Institute of Scotland.

    Electricity Consultative Council for the South of Scotland.

    General Teaching Council for Scotland.

    Headteachers Association for Scotland.

    Law Society of Scotland.

    National Union of Students (Scotland).

    North of Scotland Hydro-Electricity Board.

    Registers of Scotland.

    Scottish Assessors' Association.

    Scottish Certificate of Education Examination Board.

    Scottish Council for Civil Liberties.

    Scottish Council for Educational Technology.

    Scottish Council for Research in Education.

    Scottish Further Education Association.

    Scottish Health Boards.

    Scottish Health Boards' Chief Administrative Medical Officers' Group.

    Scottish Health Boards' Secretaries' Group.

    Scottish Law Commission.

    Scottish Police Federation.

    Scottish Records Office.

    Scottish Regional Computing Organisation.

    Scottish Schoolteachers' Association.

    Scottish Secondary Teachers' Association.

    Scottish Trades Union Congress.

    Scottish Transport Group.

    Scottish Universities Council on Entrance.

    Secondary Heads Association (Scottish Branch).

    South of Scotland Electricity Board.

    Table C

    Organisations and Northern Ireland Departments concerned

    Milk Marketing Board—Department of Agriculture.

    Pigs Marketing Board—Department of Agriculture.

    Ulster Farmers' Union—Department of Agriculture.

    Whitley Council (Staff Side)—Department of the Civil Service.

    Northern Ireland Consumer Council—Department of Commerce.

    Northern Ireland Electricity Consumers' Council—Department of Commerce.

    Northern Ireland Electricity Service Board—Department of Commerce.

    Education and Library Boards—Department of Education.

    New University of Ulster—Department of Education.

    Northern Ireland Schools Examination Council—Department of Education.

    Queen's University—Department of Education.

    Youth Committee for Northern Ireland—Department of Education.

    Association of Local Authorities for Northern Ireland—Department of the Environment.

    Local Government Staff Commission for Northern Ireland—Department of the Environment.

    Northern Ireland Housing Executive—Department of the Environment

    Northern Ireland Holding Company—Department of the Environment.

    Health and Social Services Boards—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Northern Ireland Central Services Agency for Health and Social Services—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Northern Ireland Council for Social Services—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Northern Ireland Staffs Council for Health and Social Services—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Supplementary Benefits Commission—Department of Health and Social Security.

    Chamber of Commerce—Department of Manpower Services.

    Confederation of British Industry (Northern Ireland)—Department of Manpower Services.

    Northern Ireland Committee of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions—Department of Manpower Services.

    Northern Ireland Training Executive—Department of Manpower Services.

    Northern Ireland Civil Rights Association—Northern Ireland Office.

    Police Authority for Northern Ireland—Northern Ireland Office.

    Standing Advisory Committee for Human Rights—Northern Ireland Office.

    Lewes Prison

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will specify the categories and numbers in each category of prisoners at present serving sentences in Lewes prison, Sussex.

    On 31 January 1979, 143 of the 392 people detained in Lewes prison were serving sentences. Their security categories were as follows:

    Category A
    Category B68
    Category C56
    Category D5
    Unclassified14
    Total143

    Probation And After-Care Service

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to receive the report of the working party examining the pay structure of the probation and after-care service.

    The working party is reporting not to my right hon. Friend but to the Joint Negotiating Committee for the Probation Service on which my right hon. Friend is represented. I understand that the report will be tabled for consideration at the next meeting of the Committee on 9 April.

    Unruly Girls (Certificates)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report details of unruly certificates issued in England and Wales in January and February in respect of girls, showing the courts at which the certificates were issued and on whose application they were granted.

    Nine such certificates were issued in January and seven in February; two girls in January received two certificates. The courts concerned were:

    Month and Magistrates' CourtNumber of certificates
    January
    Islington Juvenile1
    Lewisham Juvenile1
    Sedgefield Juvenile1
    Southwark South Juvenile1
    Wakefield Juvenile2
    Horseferry Road2
    Middlesbrough1
    February
    Birmingham Juvenile1
    Stafford Juvenile1
    Sheffield Juvenile1
    Wolverhampton Juvenile2
    Birmingham1
    Willesden1
    There is no statutory requirement that the court shall receive a formal application before a certificate of unruliness can be issued and no information is available about the applicant, if any, in the above cases.

    Metropolitan Police Computer

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in the light of recent disclosures by the Assistant Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis, details of which have been sent to him by the hon. Member for Barking, if he will now give a further reply to the questions from several hon. Members relating to the Metropolitan Police computer.

    Replies to previous questions have described the categories of information to be kept in the computer: that is crime; criminals; their associates; and matters connected with national security. I can confirm that, as was stated by an Assistant Commissioner in a recent television programme, to meet the operational needs of the specialist branches of the Metropolitan Police that will contribute data hitherto held in paper records, the information will be grouped as follows fraud, drug offences, other serious crimes, illegal immigration and Special Branch matters.I believe that there should be full discussion of the principles involved in such matters, within, as I have already made clear, the limits set by national security considerations and the need not to impair police effectiveness in preventing and detecting crime. Chief police officers are making effective contributions to these discussions, and I was aware of the invitation to the Assistant Commissioner to participate in the programme and welcome the fact that he did so.

    Terrorism

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list, for the last 10 years, the amount of property damage in Great Britain caused by Northern Ireland terrorists.

    Transport

    Driving Tests (Brighton)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the current waiting time for a driving test in the Brighton area; and how this compares with that for Great Britain as a whole.

    Twenty four weeks, compared with 23½ weeks for Great Britain as a whole.

    A23 (Improvements)

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what proposals he has to widen and improve the safety of the A23 between the southern end of the M23 and Brighton.

    Draft orders for the improvement of the 10 mile length of the A23 from north of Bolney to the A273 junction of Pyecombe, including a bypass of Sayers Common and Albourne, will be published next year. Meanwhile, we are considering interim measures to improve safety and facilitate the traffic flow on the existing road.

    Rural Rail Services

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport whether his Department will make additional financial provision available to British Railways in order to allow for the purchase of new rolling stock on rural and local lines; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government already pay the British Railways Board over £400 million a year, of which over £50 million is a special allowance for the replacement of the assets. This grant is paid in respect of the whole passenger railway. It is for the Board to decide its priorities within the framework of the Government's policy.

    Employment

    Boyle Report

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment to what extent the full implementation of the Boyle committee report on hon. Members' salaries would increase the cost of living and inflationary sprial.

    Wages, Prices And Pensions

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will compare average wages, prices and pensions in 1974 with those in 1979; and if he will make a statement.

    The latest earnings statistics relate to December 1978. In the five-year period December 1973 to December 1978, the seasonally adjusted monthly index of average earnings—older series—rose by 118 per cent. The General Index of Retail Prices rose by 108 per cent. in this period. Comprehensive information for average pensions is not available but the standard weekly rate of retirement pensions increased by 150 per cent. between October 1973 and November 1978.

    Job Creation (Peterborough)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs in the Peterborough area have received financial support through the various special employment measures introduced by his Department and the Manpower Services Commission.

    A total of 1,359 jobs in the Peterborough area have received financial support through the various special employment measures introduced by my Department and the Manpower Services Commission to alleviate the worst effects of unemployment.The detailed breakdown of special measures for Peterborough is as follows:

    Temporary employment subsidy:
    Number of workers involved650
    Youth opportunities programme:
    Number of people assisted262
    Work experience programme:
    Number of places involved161
    Special temporary employment programme:
    Number of people assisted17
    Job creation programme:
    Number of jobs created134
    Youth employment subsidy:
    Applications approved68
    Recruitment subsidy for school leavers:
    Applications approved64
    Small firms employment subsidy:
    Number of jobs involved
    Job introduction scheme for disabled people:
    Number of workers involved3

    In addition, 38 applications have been approved under the job release scheme.

    Temporary Employment Subsidy

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he can give an assurance that the schemes he is at present considering to replace the temporary employment subsidy will have a lower displacement effect; and how many jobs his Department estimates have been destroyed through displacement effects since the inception of the temporary employment subsidy scheme.

    Liquefied Gas (Storage)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will review the decisions taken by the Health and Safety Executive regarding the siting of liquefied gas storage close to populated areas at Flixborough, Canvey Island and at Braefoot Bay, in Fife; and if he will seek to ensure that risks which are thought to be unacceptable on one site are not ignored on others.

    I am informed by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that decisions regarding the siting of liquefied gas storages are a matter for the appropriate planning authority. Advice is given to planning authorities by the Health and Safety Executive which are satisfied that their advice, which is dependent on the individual circumstances of each case, is consistent.

    Jobcentres

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what increases there have been in the number of vacancies per annum advertised in jobcentres since 1974.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the information available relates to the number of vacancies notified to jobcentres. The great majority of such vacancies are displayed in self-service. The table below shows the number of vacancies notified to jobcentres each year since 1975, the increase each year and the number of jobcentres open at the mid-point in each year. Information about 1974 is not readily available.

    YearNumber of vacancies notified to jobcentresIncrease onon previousyearNumber ofjobcentresopen on30 June
    1975354,00097
    1976678,000324,000208
    19771,097,000419,000326
    19781,621,000524,000461
    For certain months in each of the years 1975 to 1977 precise figures are not available because of industrial action by certain staff in the Department of Employment Group, and so estimates have been used for these years. The 1978 figure has been rounded to the nearest thousand.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what measures he has considered taking to increase the number of vacancies advertised at jobcentres; and if he will make a statement.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that it has been running both national and local press campaigns aimed at increasing the awareness of jobcentres amongst employers. In addition, managers and employment advisers are given special training to enable them to carry out a systematic marketing programme to obtain a greater range and number of vacancies for display in jobcentres.

    Job Release Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has for extending the job release scheme.

    I announced on 20 February that the job release scheme would continue in the year from 1 April 1979. We have decided to expand this scheme by reducing the age at which men become eligible to use it from 64 to 62 and to 60 for disabled men. The age of eligibility for women will remain at 59.It will remain a condition of the scheme that when an employer releases a person under it he must take into employment a person currently registered as unemployed. When an employer releases a disabled person under the scheme he must wherever possible take into employment a disabled person from the unemployment register. The changes in the ages of eligibility for men generally will be made on 1 May, and we aim to make the change for disabled men from the same date.The allowance paid under the scheme will be increased on 1 April to £40 a week for a married person with a dependent spouse with income of £8·50 or less a week, and to £31·50 a week for all other applicants.With the longer period of payment under the expanded scheme the allowance will under existing legislation become taxable. Payments made under the scheme will not be charged to tax during 1979–80. Payments will be charged to tax from April 1980, but when the allowance is taxed it is our intention to increase its value so that on average there will be no loss to recipients.The cost of the expanded scheme will be covered by the provision for the employment and training programme in the Government's White Paper on its public expenditure plans, 1979–80 to 1982–83 (Cmnd. 7439).

    Ethylene Oxide

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what advice the Health and Safety Executive is currently giving to manufacturers who use ethylene oxide as a sterilising agent; what are the long-term hazards relating to this substance; if the Executive will issue a consultative document regarding the use of ethylene oxide; and which organisation it is the intention of the Executive to consult on these matters.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 6 March 1979; Vol. 963, c. 655], gave the following information:I am advised by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that the advice being given by the Health and Safety Executive to manufacturers using ethylene oxide as a sterilising agent is based upon the general provisions of the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act 1974, in particular section 2, and is specifically concerned with keeping the exposure of work people as low as is reasonably practicable and in any case within the published threshold limit value of 50 parts per million on an eight-hour time weighted average basis.It has been reported from Sweden that long-term exposure of persons employed in the sterilisation of hospital equipment to mixtures of gases including ethylene oxide may carry an increased risk of developing blood disorders. It is not clear at this stage how far it would be possible to draw valid general conclusions from this study. Other reports suggest the possibility of increased risk of foetal damage and spontaneous abortion in animals. There is no specific evidence of foetal damage to humans and no evidence of carcinogenicity to animals from exposure to ethylene oxide, although a number of long-term studies are in hand to investigate these aspects of the problem.I am also advised that at the present time the Health and Safety Executive has no plans to issue a consultative document on the use of ethylene oxide for sterilisation purposes.The Department of Health and Social Security has set up an inter-departmental working group on which the Health and Safety Executive is represented to review the data relating to the health hazards of ethylene oxide.

    Wages Councils

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the wages councils which have so far failed to lower the terminal age from 20 to 18 years.

    The following wages councils provide for payment of the adult rate to "other worker" grade at the ages shown:

    Aerated Waters (England & Wales)19
    Aerated Waters (Scotland)19
    Boot & Shoe Repairing21
    Corset20
    Dressmaking & Women's Light Clothing (Scotland)21
    Fur (furrier's section)20
    Hairdressing Undertakings22
    Hat, Cap and Millinery19
    Licensed Non-Residential Establishment20
    Licensed Residential Establishment and Licensed Restaurant21*
    Made-up Textiles19
    Pin, Hook and Eye and Snap Fastener20
    Retail Bespoke Tailoring21
    Retail Bookselling etc.21
    Retail Bread and Flour Confectionery (England and Wales) and (Scotland)20
    Retail Drapery, Outfitting and Foot wear Trades21
    Retail Food Trades (England and Wales) and (Scotland)21
    Retail Furnishing and Allied Trades21
    Retail Newsagency, Tobacco and Confectionery Trades (England and Wales) and (Scotland)21
    Aerated Waters (England and Wales)2 weeks 2 days (3 weeks 2 days after 3 years' service)
    Aerated Waters (Scotland)2 weeks (3 weeks after 1 year's service)
    Boot and Shoe Repairing3 weeks 2 days
    Button Manufacturing3 weeks 3 days (3 weeks 4 days in 1979)
    Coffin Furniture and Cerement Making3 weeks 2 days
    Corset3 weeks 2 days
    Cotton Waste Reclamation3 weeks 2 days (3 weeks 4 days in 1979)
    Dressmaking and Women's Light Clothing (England and Wales)3 weeks 2 days
    Dressmaking and Women's Light Clothing (Scotland)3 weeks 2 days
    Flax and Hemp3 weeks 2 days
    Fur3 weeks
    General Waste Reclamation3 weeks 2 days (3 weeks 3 days in 1979)
    Hairdressing Undertakings3 weeks (4 weeks after 3 years' service)
    Hat, Cap and Millinery3 weeks 2 days
    Lace Finishing3 weeks
    Laundry3 weeks 2 days (4 weeks in 1979)
    Licensed Non-Residential Establishment3 weeks 2 days (4 weeks after 5 years' service)
    Licensed Residential Establishment etc.3 weeks 2 days
    Linen and Cotton Handkerchief etc.3 weeks 2 days (3 weeks 3 days in 1980; 3 weeks 4 days in 1981)
    Made-up Textiles3 weeks 2 days
    Ostrich and Fancy Feather and Artificial Flower3 weeks 3 days (4 weeks in 1979)
    Perambulator3 weeks 1 day
    Ready-made Tailoring3 weeks 2 days
    Retail Bespoke Tailoring3 weeks 3 days
    Retail Bookselling etc.3 weeks (3 weeks 2 days after 1 year's service; 4 weeks after 5 years' service)
    Retail Bread and Flour Confectionery (England and Wales)3 weeks 2 days
    Retail Bread and Flour Confectionery (Scotland)3 weeks 2 days
    Retail Drapery, Outfitting etc.3 weeks (3 weeks 2 days after 3 years' service; 4 weeks after 5 years' service)
    Retail Food (England and Wales)3 weeks (3 weeks 2 days after 3 years' service; 4 weeks after 5 years' service)
    Retail Food (Scotland)3 weeks (3 weeks 2 days after 3 years' service; 4 weeks after 5 years' service)
    Retail Furnishing etc.3 weeks 2 days (4 weeks after 5 years' service)
    Retail Newsagency etc. (England and Wales)3 weeks (3 weeks 2 days after 3 years' service; weeks after 5 years' service)
    Retail Newsagency etc. (Scotland)3 weeks
    Rope, Twine and Net3 weeks 3 days
    Rubber-proofed Garment Making3 weeks 2 days
    Sack and Bag3 weeks 2 days
    Shirtmaking3 weeks 2 days
    Rubber-proofed Garment Making21
    Sack and Bag20
    Shirtmaking20
    Unlicensed Place of Refreshment20
    *All "service" workers and "other" non-service workers.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the wages councils which have so far failed to comply with the Council of the European Communities' recommendation to member States to award standard four weeks' paid holiday by 31 December 1978.

    Only the Pin, Hook and Eye and Snap Fastener Wages Council provided at 31 December 1978 for four weeks of holiday for all workers with a year's service.The remaining wages councils provide for the following entitlements:

    Toy Manufacturing3 weeks 3 days
    Unlicensed Place of Refreshment3 weeks 2 days
    Wholesale Mantle and Costume3 weeks 2 days
    When announcing the Government's support for the EEC recommendation—[Vol. 940, c. 588]—I said that its achievement was a matter for collective bargaining, subject to the requirement of counter-inflation policy. All wages councils were so informed.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the wages councils which did not include the new May Day bank holiday in the list of statutory and customary holidays for 1978, and the councils which do not propose to add it to their statutory and customary holidays in the current year.

    In 1978, the Fur; the Rope, Twine and Net; and the Sack and Bag Wages Councils. The last two made orders including the May Day bank holiday later in 1978. It understood that the Fur Wages Council will consider making similar proposals at its next meeting.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    National Farmers' Union

    22.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has any plans to meet the president of the National Farmers' Union.

    My right hon. Friend the Minister has arranged to meet the president of the National Farmers' Union on 19 March.

    Swine Vesicular Disease

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many pigs in the Holme Valley area of Kirklees district of West Yorkshire have been slaughtered in the current year because of swine vesicular disease; and if he will make a statement.

    No outbreaks of swine vesicular disease have occurred in the Kirklees district.Twenty-four outbreaks have occurred to date. All have been in Humberside except one near Selby and one in Leicestershire which has just been confirmed. The controlled area restrictions were removed on 2 March but restrictions remain on premises which present a risk because of direct or indirect contact with the disease. Some 29,000 pigs have been slaughtered at a cost of over £1·5 million in compensation.

    National Finance

    Value Added Tax

    23.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the additional revenue that would be produced in a full financial year by increasing the rate of value added tax on goods and services at present charged at 8 per cent. to (a) 10 per cent. (b) 12½ per cent. and (c) 15 per cent.

    £800 million, £1,800 million and £2,750 mililon, respectively. If the 12½ per cent. higher rate was raised with the standard rate to 15 per cent. the yield would be £2,850 million.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what he estimates it would cost the Exchequer to raise the value added tax thresholds to (a) £15,000, (b) £20,000 and (c) £25,000.

    The loss of revenue would depend upon the number of registered persons who chose to de-register. If the de-registration limit was increased proportionately to the registration limit and the proportion of those eligible to do so which de-registered was similar to the proportions when the limits were raised in October 1977 and April 1978, it is estimated the revenue loss would be:

    Registration limit taxable turnover a year(£)Revenue lossmillion)
    15,00010
    20,00015
    25,00025

    Workers (Wages)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what criteria he uses to assess the provision of money for increased wages for workers in the public service; and how these compare with the criteria used to assess the financing of extra pay for workers in nationalised industries supported by subventions of public money, such as miners.

    The Government's policy on financing pay settlements in the public services and the nationalised industries was set out in the Chief Secretary's answer on 23 February.—[Vol. 936, c. 334–5.]

    Government Debt

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total amount of central Government debt in each of the past 10 years, and the annual servicing cost of that debt, expressed both in money terms and in real terms.

    Benefits (Income Tax Assessment)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will list the various State benefits which, although taxable income, he does not seek to assess for income tax and the circumstances in which no assessments are made.

    Social security benefits which are taxable in accordance with the Taxes Act are taken into account in determining liability to income tax. So far as possible the tax due is collected through the PAYE system, thus avoiding the need for formal assessment.

    North Sea Oil

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to what extent the United Kingdom balance of payments benefited, in the most recent 12-month period for which figures are available, from the production of North Sea oil.

    The latest estimate for the value of North Sea oil production in 1978 is £2·8 billion. It is not possible to estimate the effects of North Sea oil on the current account of the balance of payments separately from the effects of North Sea gas, because much of the associated expenditure with an import content is incurred in respect of both together. The direct and identifiable contribution to the current account from the overall North Sea programme in 1978 is estimated to have been some £3½ billion. This estimate is on the same basis as those presented in the October 1978 issue of "Economic Progress Report", and also those given in reply to the hon. Member for Reigate (Mr. Gardiner) on 13 February.—[Vol. 962, c. 509–11.]

    Government Securities (Interest Charges)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his Department's estimate of the cost to the Treasury of interest charges to be paid until their maturity dates on the Government securities sold during the past two weeks.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table to show the increase in public expenditure each year since 1974 on manpower policy and the social services, indicating what proportion of each year's change resulted from (a) specific alterations in Government policy, (b) automatic increases in expenditure from higher claims and entitlements under existing programmes and (c) increases in expenditure on programmes to take account of inflation.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table, by Department, showing the proportion of public expenditure in 1978–79 comprised by (a) payments to individuals or firms which are governed by laws establishing the beneficiary statutory right to payment if he or she meets certain legal requirements and (b) outlays on contracts and obligations made in previous financial years.

    Foreign Currency

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what amounts of foreign currency have been borrowed by Her Majesty's Government between March 1974 and the present date; and how much was repaid over the same period.

    I shall let the right hon. and learned Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    Income Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost in a full financial year if the maximum rate of income tax on (a) earned and (b) unearned income had been reduced to 70p, 65p, 60p, 55p and 50p in the pound.

    I shall let the right hon. and learned Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    Income Comparisons

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what pre-tax and post-tax income would now be required to provide the same standard of living as that enjoyed in 1974 by a married man with three children under 11 years of age and a £6,000 mortgage on a gross income of £3,500 a year.

    I shall let the right hon. and learned Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    Defence

    Decorations (Replacement Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the replacement costs to ex-Service men of medals, stars and clasps for service in France and Germany in World War 2; what price increases are planned from 1 July 1979; what are the annual replacement sales; and how many of each remain unclaimed in the first instance by ex-Service men.

    The only awards given specifically for service in France and Germany are the France and Germany Star, and the France and Germany Clasp to both the Atlantic Star and the Aircrew Europe Star. The replacement cost is £6·86 for the stars and 76p for the clasps. There are no plans to increase these charges during 1979. Replacement sales vary from year to year. In 1978 144 stars and 53 clasps were re-issued. No records are kept of the number of ex-Service men entitled to receive World War II campaign medals who have not yet claimed their awards.

    Army Cadet Force (Northern Ireland)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) what is the current membership of the Army cadet force in Northern Ireland; and what it was 10 years ago;(2) how many Army cadet force units are currently active in Northern Ireland; where they are located; and how many existed 10 years ago;(3) what small arms training is currently given to Army cadet force members in Northern Ireland; and what other weapons training is provided.

    The Army Cadet Force is a voluntary youth organisation sponsored by the Army. In Northern Ireland there are currently 61 detachments located in:

    Belfast11
    Co. Antrim11
    Co. Down10
    Co. Armagh11
    Londonderry18
    compared with 51 in 1969. The cadet strength is now 1,693 and was 1,322 in 1969. Small arms training is confined to the old no. 4 303 rifle; the ·22 rifle and air rifles.

    Ships (Names)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is prepared to name a ship of the Royal Navy HMS "Oliver Cromwell".

    "Oliver Cromwell" does not fit into the categories of names used for current classes of naval vessels, but this suggestion will be taken into account when possible names for future classes are considered.

    Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what percentage defence expenditure has represented of total United Kingdom central Government expenditure in each of the years since 1945; and what is the estimated percentage for 1979–80.

    Figures are not available on a consistent basis for the whole of the period requested. The table below shows on an outturn basis defence share of central Government expenditure by calendar year from 1950 to 1959 and by financial year from 1960–61. The figure for 1978–79 is based on a forecast of expenditure and for 1979–80 on planned expenditure as shown in Cmnd. 7439. The figures for the period 1950 to 1959 must be regarded as approximate.

    Per cent.
    195019·6*
    195121·2
    195225·1
    195325·5
    195425·7
    195524·9
    195625·3
    195722·6
    195821·9
    195920·9
    1960–6121·1
    1961–6220·5
    1962–6320·8
    1963–6419·8
    1964–6519·0
    1965–6618·1
    1966–6716·9
    1967–6815·3
    1968–6914·6
    1969–7013·6
    1970–7113·7
    1971–7213·5
    1972–7313·1
    1973–7413·2
    1974–7511·6
    1975–7611·5
    1976–7712·0
    1977–7812·2
    1978–7911·9
    1979–8011·9
    * The percentages for the years 1950 to 1977–78 are based on figures for central Government expenditure consistent with those in Tables 3.6 and 3.7 of the CSO publication "Financial Statistics".
    Figures for 1978–79 and 1979–80 are comparable estimates drawn from the information in Cmnd. 7439.

    Depleted Uranium Ammunition

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the use of depleted uranium ammunition in the United Kingdom.

    A research and development and proof firing programme of anti-armour ammunition with depleted uranium penetrators will take place at Ministry of Defence ranges in the United Kingdom, starting at the Proof and Experimental Establishment, Eskmeals, Cumbria, in 1980. The high density and metallurgical properties of this material appear to make it particularly suitable for use in anti-armour ammunition which we are constantly seeking to improve in response to the preponderance of Warsaw Pact tanks on the Central Front and improvements being made to them. The United States Air Force will also store ammunition containing depleted uranium alloy—known as staballoy in the United States—for its A-10 aircraft in this country. Depleted uranium is already being handled and worked safely in this country for a variety of civil applications, and ammunition containing it is in no sense a nuclear or radiological weapon.Test firings will only be used for research and development purposes. There is no intention either by the USAF or the British Army to use depleted uranium for training purposes in the United Kingdom in peacetime.I have today placed in the Library of the House a memorandum which gives further details.

    Defence Estimates

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much of the figure of £1,376 million shown in annex A to Cmnd. 7474 in respect of the 1979–80 Defence Estimates relates to the movement in pay and prices of 10 per cent. between autumn 1977 and autumn 1978 referred to in his answer to the hon. Member for Tynemouth of 5 March.

    Equipment And Weaponry

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) if, in light of his figures on page 7 of the Defence Estimates showing increases in the strength of Soviet forces in Central Europe over the period 1968 to 1978, he will list, for purposes of comparison, the changes that have taken place over the same period in the numbers of battle tanks, artillery, armoured personnel carriers and fixed wing aircraft available to British forces in Germany;(2) if, in light of his figures on page 6 of the Defence Estimates showing increases in the strength of Soviet naval forces in the Eastern Atlantic over the period 1968 to 1978, he will list, for purposes of comparison, the changes that have taken place over the same period in the numbers of Royal Navy nuclear powered submarines, missile armed and other types of cruisers and destroyers, frigates and escorts, and fixed wing maritime aircraft.

    19681978
    Submarines (including Polaris submarines)39 (including 6 nuclear-powered)30 (including 14 nuclear-powered)
    Cruisers and destroyers20 (including 6 guided missile destroyers)14 (including 12 guided missile destroyers)
    Frigates and escorts62 frigates54 frigates
    As regards the strengths of the other Forces it is not the practice to disclose such detailed information.

    Ulster Defence Regiment

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what was the strength of the Ulster Defence Regiment on 1 March 1979; and how the figure compares with the regiment's strength on 1 March 1978, 1 March 1977 and 1 March 1976.

    The figures for the end of February in each of the years in question were:

    Permanent cadrePart timeTotals
    19761,5436,1187,661
    19771,6695,9367,605
    19782,1545,6937,847
    19792,4345,2437,677

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Rhodesia

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he has been informed that a number of Rhodesians have been executed in recent weeks by orders of the Smith Government without even close relatives being informed; and if he will make a statement.

    We were informed by the family of Mr. Daniel Moyo that he and nine other persons were executed last month. We have made clear to the regime that we have learnt with repugnance of these executions for what were clearly political offences. We are gravely concerned at reports which have reached us of further death sentences being passed. Such actions are indefensible, both on humanitarian grounds and in the interests

    The hon. Member will be aware that "Strength of the Fleet" tables are published annually in the Statement on the Defence Estimates. The Royal Navy totals that he seeks are as follows:of achieving a peaceful settlement in Rhodesia.

    Iran

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs what action is being taken by Her Majesty's Government to protect British nationals in Iran who are unable to leave because their passports have been confiscated.

    We are aware of a number of such cases involving British nationals. Despite the difficult circumstances currently prevailing in Iran consular officers will continue to do what they can to assist in finding a solution.

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will make urgent representations to the Iranian Government to have the passport of Mr. K. Thompson returned to him so that he is able to return to the United Kingdom.

    Quangos (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs if he will estimate, in the case of each quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisation for which he is responsible (a) its total expenditure in the current year and (b) its total expenditure on administration, accommodation and general services, defined to include items such as salaries, telephones and postage, rates, heating, travelling, transport, office equipment and so on.

    There is no official definition of the term quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisation. The following information relates to bodies to which my right hon. Friend or my hon. Friend the Minister of State is able

    OrganisationTotal expenditure for 1978–79 (estimated)Expenditure on administration etc. as defined
    (figures rounded)
    £'000£'000
    British Council89,700·031,800·0
    Great Britain-China Centre41·326·3
    Great Britain-East Europe Centre56·037·6
    Marshall Aid Scholarship Commemoration Commission.292·034·8
    Commonwealth Foundation670·0155·0
    Commonwealth Institute, London1,158·01,112·0
    Commonwealth Institute, Edinburgh66·959·5
    Advisory Council of the European Discussion Centre284·2284·2*
    Academic Council of Wilton Park
    * Includes food and other non-defined expenses which cannot readily be segregated.

    Industry

    Managing Directors (Posts)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry when the term of office of the current managing director (posts) is due to expire.

    Post Office Users' National Council (Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what action he intends to take on the Post Office Users' National Council report 17.

    The report concerns the day-to-day operations of the Post Office for which under the Post Office Act of 1969 the corporation has a substantial measure of autonomy. The Post Office tells me that it has already identified many of the points made by POUNC and some of the recommendations have already been implementcd—for example, concerning latest posting time maps for public display. The Post Office intends to act on other recommendations without delay, and will have detailed discussions with POUNC. I welcome the spirit in which both parties are co-operating to tackle the problems referred to in the report.

    Post Office (Code Of Practice)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) when he expects the Post Office's consumer code of practice to be issued; to make appointments and which are grant-aided by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.(2) if he will inquire into the reasons for the delay by the Post Office in issuing its codes of practice.

    Officials of my Department have been following the course of the discussions which the Post Office has been having with the Office of Fair Trading and the Post Office Users National Council. I understand that codes are in the final stages of agreement and will be published as soon as possible.

    Civilian Aeroplanes (Vertical Take-Off)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what research and development is taking place into the possibilities of using the vertical take-off principle for civilian aeroplanes; if he will take steps to encourage such research and development; and if he will make a statement.

    British Aerospace is now responsible for all civil research and development which is in its own commercial interests. However, the vital need to reduce fuel consumption and noise makes it most unlikely that civil VTOL aircraft will find a market in the foreseeable future.

    British Steel Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish a table showing the cost of wages and salaries in the British Steel Corporation, in each of the years since it became a nationalised concern, the number of employees in each of those years, the percentage increase in earnings per head and the quantity of steel produced in each year.

    This is a matter for the British Steel Corporation. Information on the cost of wages and salaries, the number of employees at the end of each financial year and the quantity of steel produced is given in the annual reports of the Corporation, copies of which are laid before the House. More detailed figures on a calendar year basis appear in its publication "Annual Statistics of the Corporation", which is also available in the Library.

    Hartle Machinery International

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the date of the first investment of taxpayers' funds into Hartle Machinery International; and what was the date of the appointment of a receiver into that company's affairs.

    This is a matter for the NEB which, although it has no equity investment, has, I understand, made a secured loan to the company. My Department has provided no financial assistance to Hartle Machinery International. Receivers for Hartle Machinery International were appointed on 5 March 1979.

    Special Steels

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will hold consultations with the chairman of the National Enterprise Board about the future of the special steels industry and possible involvement of the National Enterprise Board in that industry.

    I am sure the iron and steel sector working party is ready to give consideration to the role the NEB could play in this sector. Companies in the industry can of course contact the NEB direct if they wish to seek an NEB involvement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will arrange to meet trade union representatives in Sheffield to discuss the findings of the iron and steel sector working party concerning the special steels industry.

    In November last my right hon. Friend held a meeting to discuss the problems of the special steels industry with the British Independent Steel Producers' Association, together with the president of the Sheffield chamber of commerce, the chairman of the NEDO iron and steel working party and the chairman of the TUC steel committee who is also the general secretary of the iron and steel trades confederation.Following that meeting my right hon. Friend has received further advice from the sector working party about the industry's allegations concerning the discriminatory pricing of imports. He is awaiting its response on the possibility of a scheme under section 8 of the Industry Act as well as other means of improving the competitiveness of the industry, which were raised in the report of the SWP's consultant.It seems best to continue to handle these discussions through the iron and steel sector working party on which the trades unions are directly represented.However, I have been keeping closely in touch with these problems and my right hon. Friend has asked me to arrange an early visit to Sheffield to meet trade union representatives.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if, in the light of the finding by the iron and steel sector working party that large tonnages of special steels have been clumped on the United Kingdom market by European companies at prices which could not cover production costs, he will now take unilateral action to seek to prohibit such imports.

    The progress report of the iron and steel sector working party for 1979 refers to the study by the consultant commissioned by it who concluded that losses sustained by some major European companies in their special steels business were evidence of sales by these companies at prices which could not cover production costs. But many companies have been making losses in their steel business and this does not in itself constitute evidence of dumping. However, the position of our special steels industry is one about which we remain deeply concerned and we are continuing to pursue the industry's allegations of discriminatory pricing with Commissioner Davignon. In the absence of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State, my right hon. Friend the Minister of State wrote to Commissioner Davignon again last week immediately following receipt of further advice from the industry.

    Planning Agreements

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Selly Oak, of 23 February (Official Report, columns 320–3), if he will list the dates on which the first communication of any sort between his Department and the various companies took place with a view to concluding a planning agreement within the terms of the Industry Act.

    No. Companies regard their relationships with Government as sensitive. Confidentiality offered in respect of planning agreement discussions is all-embracing and relates as much to their existence as to their content. To give the information required would further jeopardise the already disappointing progress on securing planning agreements. However, I remind my hon. Friend that talks have been held with a number of companies, including some of those referred to in his questions to which I replied on 23 February, covering a wide range of industries: in many cases some of the objectives underlying the planning agreement concept are being achieved.Announcements will be made as appropriate under section 21(3) of the Industry Act 1975.

    Thorne Group

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has entered into planning agreement discussions with the Thorne group.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the replies given to my hon. Friend the Member for Birmingham, Selly Oak (Mr. Litterick) on Friday 23 February—[Vol. 963, c. 320]—and today.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will impose conditions upon any grant-aid to the Thorne group requiring it to enter into a planning agreement before any grant money is paid.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Coventry, South-West (Mrs. Wise) on Monday 19 February 1979.—[Vol. 963, c. 8.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will discuss with the Thorne group the provision of job opportunities in the Bradford area as a precondition to any further grant aid to the company.

    Any application for financial assistance to the Thorne group will be considered on its merits taking account of all relevant factors.

    Goods And Services (Legislative Controls)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list (a) the number of pieces of legislation introduced since March 1974 which have had some regulatory effect over industrial practices or prices and conditions under which goods and services are produced and the physical characteristics of products which are manufactured and (b) the number of agencies created under this legislation, and the growth in employees and expenditure for such agencies since March 1974.

    No legislation has been introduced by my Department since March 1974 which has any general regulatory effect of the kinds specified in the hon. Member's question and accordingly no agencies have been created under any such legislation.However, my right hon. Friend does have powers under the Industry Act 1975 and the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Industries Act 1977 to give directions to the National Enterprise Board, British Aerospace and British Shipbuilders as to the exercice of their functions. No directions having any such regulatory effect have been given to any of these bodies.

    Harland And Wolff Limited

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the current annual remuneration of a non-executive member of the board of Messrs. Harland and Wolff; what expenses are currently claimable by such a member in the exercise of his functions; and at what rate.

    I have been asked to reply.The current remuneration for non-executive directors of Harland and Wolff Limited is £1,500 per year. Expenses claimable are those actually incurred on the company's business.

    Prices And Consumer Protection

    Baptism, Marriages And Funerals (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection, in the light of the proposed 20 per cent. to 25 per cent. increase in fees for baptism certificates, marriages and funerals to be imposed by the Church of England, what action he proposes to take.

    None. These charges are set under the Ecclesiastical Fees Measure 1962, and are already subject to parliamentary procedures.

    Goods And Services (Delivery Delays)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if his Department will examine the lack of legal redress available to customers under typical general conditions of sale which absolve the supplier from any responsibility to the customer for delays in delivery of goods and services even though such delay may cause the customer financial loss which he cannot recover; and if he will make a statement.

    If a supplier fails to meet the terms of a contract relating to the time for performance, he is in breach of contract, and the customer is entitled to damages for financial loss suffered as a result of the delay, provided that the loss was reasonably foreseeable by the parties at the time when the contract was made.Section 3 of the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977 provides that a term in a standard form of contract which excludes or restricts the liability of a trader for breach of contract, such as liability for delay, is unenforceable unless it is found by a court to be a fair and reasonable one to be included in a contract.

    Gramophone Records (Prices)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection whether, in view of the information sent to him by the hon. Member for Newham, North-West showing that popular records are again to increase to 99p for a single, this being the second increase in six months and 300 per cent. above the price in 1964, he will refer this matter to the Price Commission.

    My right hon. Friend has no current plans to direct the Price Commission to examine prices for gramophone records, but he will bear this suggestion in mind when considering future subjects for study by the Commission. It is for the Commission to decide whether to investigate price increases proposed by individual firms.

    Nationalised Industries (Users' Councils)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection how many appointments to nationalised industry users' councils he made in 1978.

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection how many appointments to nationalised industry users' councils he is responsible for.

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection how long, on average, it takes him to appoint nominees to users' councils from the time papers are received by his Department.

    I am always seeking candidates for membership of the councils and hold a list of those willing to serve. Appointments of suitable candidates are made from this list as and when vacancies on the councils arise.

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection how many nominations he has received for vacancies on the Post Office Users National Council in 1978.

    During 1978 about 500 suggestions for membership of the nationalised industries users' councils were received. A large proportion of those willing to serve do not specify a particular industry and their suitability for consideration depends to a large extent upon the prevailing needs of the councils.

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection when he will next nominate people to the Post Office Users National Council.

    My right hon. Friend is at present considering candidates and hopes to be in a position to announce new appointments shortly.

    Post Office Users' National Council

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection how many vacancies there are on the Post Office Users National Council.

    The Post Office Users' National Council is at present eight members below the statutory maximum.

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection which bodies he has consulted in the past

    FIREWORK INJURIES IN SCOTLAND
    Four-week period in October-November
    YEAR197819771976197519741973
    TOTAL412422384463
    PLACE OF ACCIDENT
    1Family or private party14343513
    2Public or semi-public1166477
    3Casual incident in street, etc.14106171826
    4Other place215459
    5Unspecified place411098
    6Indoors*
    TYPE OF FIREWORK
    1Banger24612923
    2Rocket11566911
    3Roman candle, coloured fire, etc.712814
    4Home-made or extracted powder1322
    5Other proprietary fireworks of which:42352
    5.1 Jumping cracker‡11
    5.2 Other flyabout§122
    6Sparklers||1
    7Unspecified type161110121111
    SEVERITY OF INJURY
    1Fatal injury
    2Detained more than one night363384
    3Sufficient to cause absence from work or equivalent2163610
    44 Minor injury361613302946
    55 Unspecified injury1213
    AGE GROUP OF INJURED PERSONS
    Over 21943637
    16–2022314
    13–16105491017
    Under 13201315203035
    EYE INJURIES13861120
    * Included in "other place" prior to 1978.
    Previously listed as "display fireworks".
    ‡ Jumping crackers were not sold from 1976.
    § Included in "other proprietary fireworks" from 1978.
    || Included in "other proprietary fireworks" prior to 1978.
    .. Not separately available.

    year under the terms of the Post Office Act, section 14(2)( c) about the appointment of members of the Post Office Users National Council.

    The list of potential members of the nationalised industries consumer councils is drawn from a wide range of sources. In appointing members of the Post Office Users National Council, I have drawn in particular on the nominations made by bodies representative of the ordinary user, industry, commerce, local government, women's organisations, the aged and the disabled.

    Firework Injuries (Statistics)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection if he will now publish the firework injury statistics for 1978; and if he will make a statement.

    , pursuant to the reply [Official Report, 7 March 1979; Vol. 963, c. 709–10] gave the following further information:

    FIREWORK INJURIES IN GREAT BRITAIN
    Four-week period in October-November
    YEAR197819771976197519741973
    TOTAL9537336857669271,249
    PLACE OF ACCIDENT
    1Family or private party359275277218272398
    2Public or semi-public party175144167148144160
    3Casual incident in street, etc.350258160220290448
    4Other place5139566994128
    5Unspecified place1725111127115
    6Indoors*18
    TYPE OF FIREWORK
    1Banger212178159208237379
    2Rocket12287918979129
    3Roman candle, coloured fire, etc. 16011289119159294
    4Home-made or extracted powder391917273140
    5Other proprietary fireworks of which:10792119110159139
    5.1 Jumping cracker‡264359
    5.2 Other flyabout§15142754..
    6Sparklers||716572......
    7Unspecified type242245210213262268
    SEVERITY OF INJURY
    1Fatal injury1
    2Detained more than one night657150467884
    3Sufficient to cause absence from work or equivalent1198911896127188
    4Minor injury730539486602683938
    5Unspecified injury393331223939
    AGE GROUP OF INJURED PERSONS
    Over 21170145129120134202
    16–20704047535978
    13–16226190147161194265
    Under 13487358362432540704
    EYE INJURIES363276306..383468
    * Included in "other place" prior to 1978.
    Previously listed as "display fireworks".
    ‡ Jumping crackers were not sold from 1976.
    § Included in "other proprietary fireworks" from 1978.
    || Included in "other proprietary fireworks" prior to 1978.
    ..Not separately available.

    Data Protection (Lindop Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Prices and Consumer Protection which organisations he is consulting about the Lindop report on data protection.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to him today by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department.

    Trade

    Goods And Services (Public Service Dispute)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what precautions he proposes to take to mitigate the effects of a strike by members of the Civil and Public Services Association and the Society of Civil and Public Servants on the servicing of United Kingdom exports of goods and services.

    Contingency action will be taken, as far as possible, to mitigate any effects on services for exports. Prior disclosure of any such action may not help.

    Vessels (Scrap Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether the power to issue a prohibition order under clause 31 of the Merchant Shipping Bill could be used if a United Kingdom shipping company sells a ship to a foreign scrapyard.

    A prohibition order could be made only if it appeared to the Secretary of State that a change of control might or would be contrary to the interests of the United Kingdom. I cannot envisage circumstances in which the sale of a single ship for scrap would engage the national interest.

    Mass Transit Railway Corporation, Hong Kong

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will give details of the contracts awarded by the Mass Transit Railway Corporation of Hong Kong to British companies and an estimate of the number of jobs they provide.

    The details of individual contracts are matters for the firms concerned, but I am informed that the Hong Kong mass transit authority has so far awarded the following contracts to British companies in regard to stage II of the development of the mass transit railway:

  • (i) Rolling stock—Metro-Cammell £50 millions
  • (ii) Power supply—GEC Rectifiers Ltd, £10 millions
  • (iii) Signalling—Westinghouse £7·5 millions
  • (iv) Radio communications—Cable and Wireless Ltd, £1·1 millions.
  • Decisions on a number of smaller contracts have yet to be made.It is not practicable accurately to estimate the number of jobs directly or indirectly created or saved by the winning of these contracts but it is thought that they will provide employment over four years for up to 3,000 people in the railway and associated industries.

    London-Aberdeen Air Route (Fare Increases)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make approval of any further proposed fare increases on the air route between London and Aberdeen subject to an inquiry in the number of delays and cancellations of flights in both directions on that route.

    Approval of air fares is a matter for the Civil Aviation Authority.

    Rhodesia (Chrome Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether the USSR has been purchasing Rhodesian chrome; and if so, in what quantities since the Rhodesian unilateral declaration of independence.

    I understand that the USSR has not so far been named in any notes submitted to the United Nations Sanctions Committee about suspected dealings in such Rhodesian products. There are no details available in the relevant statistics.

    Flight Delays (Aberdeen-London)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade, (1) from air traffic control information available to him, how many delays took place affecting flights from London to Aberdeen and Aberdeen to London during 1978 in the following categories (a) less than one hour, (b) one to two hours, (c) three to six hours and (d) greater than six hours;(2) from air traffic control information available to him, how many cancellations took place of flights from London to Aberdeen and Aberdeen to London during 1978.

    The information requested is not recorded by the National Air Traffic Services, and should be sought from the operator of the air services in question.

    Scotland

    Dundee College Of Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, further to his parliamentary answers to the hon. Member for Dundee, East on 21 February regarding his alleged non-receipt of a letter relating to Dundee college of education, why no earlier information of non-receipt was given to the hon. Member for Dundee, East in response to his telephoned reminder to the Under-Secretary's private office and his personal inquiry to the Minister; and if he will reprimand his staff for their inefficiency.

    I apologise to the hon. Member if there has been any misunderstanding. I shall be writing to him

    Referendum (Cost)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what estimate he has made of the total cost of the referendum vote in Scotland.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer given by my right hon. Friend the Lord President to the hon. Member for Caernarvon (Mr. Wigley) on 23 March 1978.—[Vol. 946, c. 726.]

    Firearms And Shotgun Certificates

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a list of the number of new certificates, renewals, refusals and cancellations and the total number of firearms certificates and shotgun certificates

    Police areaNumber of new certificatesNumber of certificates cancelledNumber of applications refusedNumber of certificates in force at end of year*
    Central Scotland:
    Firearms197615710231,572
    197714811881,605
    Shotguns1976370153115,034
    1977356420104,940
    Dumfries and Galloway:
    Firearms197619813412,776
    19771821672,804
    Shotguns197642229566,620
    1977417460106,596
    Fife:
    Firearms19768410031,780
    19771221161,777
    Shotguns197634219645,773
    197742037695,839
    Grampian:
    Firearms1976509419166,151
    1977564483126,215
    Shotguns19761,1841,5091011,623
    19771,2011,2641411,606
    Lothian and Borders:
    Firearms197629124025,160
    197725637115,004
    Shotguns19768085731711,142
    19777575051511,351
    Northern:
    Firearms19761,12578739,109
    19771,12659819,614
    Shutguns1976936465112,977
    19771,024949513,080
    Tayside:
    Firearms197644730674,845
    197738033334,863
    Shotguns19765816451210,148
    19778026851910,257
    Strathclyde:
    Firearms1976160679587,648
    197746766777,365
    Shotguns19761,6621,7737821,701
    19771,6381,9225321,276
    * These figures take account of transfers of certificates between areas.

    Radioactivity (Aberdeen)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the radioactive intensity of the granite of which most of the buildings of Union Street, Aberdeen, are constructed.

    Granite contains a small amount of uranium and hence is very slightly radioactive. The effect is indicated in the terrestrial background radiation level which in granite issued by chief officers of police in Scotland by police area for the years ended 31 December 1976 and 1977.

    I regret that not all of this information is readily available in the form requested. Such details as are available are given in the table below.buildings in Aberdeen is about 150 millirem per year. This is however only slightly above the normal background level of about 100 millirems per year.

    Royal High School, Edinburgh

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what he now intends shall be the future use of the Royal high school building in Edinburgh;(2) what stage of completion had been reached in turning the Royal high school, Edinburgh, into a suitable place for a Scottish Assembly when the referendum was held on 1 March;(3) what was the total cost, respectively, of all alterations to the Royal high school, Edinburgh, to make it suitable for a Scottish Assembly, and to any other buildings or projected buildings, and of architects' fees, etc., for planning the alterations;(4) what he now intends to do with all the fittings bought, ordered or installed in the Royal high school, Edinburgh, when it was intended as a home for a Scottish Assembly;(5) when he gave instructions that all work on the Royal high school as a home for the Scottish Assembly should stop.

    I refer the hon. Member to my replies today to the hon. Members for Eastbourne (Mr. Gow) and Tiverton (Mr. Maxwell-Hyslop).

    Local Authority Debt

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for each local authority in Scotland for the latest date for which information is available (a) the total outstanding debt for that authority, and (b) the outstanding debt of the authority per head of its population.

    Information about outstanding debt and population is published by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy in "Return of Outstanding Debt at 31 March 1978"—statistical information service, November 1978—a copy of which is in the Library.

    Scottish Assembly

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what facilities and fittings for telephones, for Assemblymen and journalists, were installed in the Royal high school, in preparation for it being used as a Scottish Assembly; and what was the total cost of such facilities and fittings.

    Provision has been made for Assembly members to have basic telephone facilities and for the media to have access to the Assembly switchboard for internal calls only. The media made separate arrangements with the Scottish Telecommunications Board for facilities for external calls. Telephone wiring has been completed and almost all fittings have been installed. The standard charges applicable to the work done, excluding the media's own arrangements, amount to about £5,300.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many official delegations of journalists, etc., were taken round the Royal high school as a future home for a Scottish Assembly; and what was the total cost to public funds of these visits.

    Representatives from the media were invited to visit the Royal high school on 2 July 1976 and 27 November 1978. It is not possible to identify separately the total cost to public funds of these and other visits.

    Hill Livestock Compensatory Allowances

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he intends to announce an increase in the hill livestock compensatory allowances to the maximum permitted under EEC rules.

    I have nothing to add to the replies which I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Berwick and East Lothian (Mr. Home Robertson) on 24 January, to the hon. Member on 1 February and to the hon. Member for North Angus and Mearns (Mr. Buchanan-Smith) on 5 February.—[Vol. 961, c. 181, Vol. 961, c. 555–6, Vol. 962, c. 67–8.]

    Public Services (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the financial resources available to each regional authority, respectively, from central Government for expenditure on water, sewerage and drainage; and what percentage has been spent in 1975–76, 1976–77, 1977–78 and 1978–79.

    The following table relates to the capital expenditure authorised for each of the responsible bodies.

    CAPITAL ALLOCATIONS AND EXPENDITURE FOR WATER AND SEWERAGE

    1975–76

    1976–77

    1977–78

    1978–79

    Authority

    Capital allocations

    Percentage spent

    Capital allocations

    Percentage spent

    Capital allocations

    Percentage spent

    Capital allocations £

    Percentage spent%

    £m.%£m.%£m.%£m.%
    Borders1·5601·01180·9691·4
    Central2·81211·51001·9822·3
    Dumfries and Galloway1·31321·01201·3781·4
    Fife5·0703·51083·6764·4
    Grampian10·0889·48710·76712·4
    Highland3·2563·4772·9453·1Not available
    Lothian11·510610·41029·59614·0
    Strathclyde23·010024·39124·09225·5
    Tayside3·01092·3982·81015·0
    Orkney0·4600·4590·351060·35
    Shetland1·0181·7914·46320
    Western Isles0·5300·4750·351080·35
    Central Scotland Water Development Board0·81190·6910·6950·8

    Notes:

  • (i) Expenditures for 1975–76 and 1976–77 are based on the local financial returns of local authorities.
  • (ii) Expenditure for 1977–78 are taken from the local authority capital payment returns, or are the latest available, and may be understated.
  • Assembly Building

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the rateable value of the proposed Assembly building in Edinburgh; to what extent it is not yet ready to receive the proposed Assemblymen; what further money would have to be spent on the building and its furnishings and equipment before it is ready for the first meeting of the Assembly; and what price he would be able to obtain for this building on the open market.

    For Crown buildings local authorities receive a contribution in lieu of rates based on an assessment by the Treasury valuer. No such assessment has yet been made in respect of the Royal high school buildings. Constructional and fitting-out work on Assembly accommodation was due for completion by the end of April. The total estimate of cost, as already reported to Parliament, is £3·75 million. The expenditure to date is £2·68 million, with contractual commitments for a substantial part of the balance. I am not considering alternative uses or consequent disposal values.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he has taken to prevent any further expenditure from central Government funds on the provision of buildings, accommodation, fittings and equipment intended for the use of a Scottish Assembly, since the result of the referendum became known on Friday 2 March; and what action he is taking to dispose of any such items to reimburse public funds as far as possible.

    Work under existing contracts is very far advanced. No further work will be commissioned or fittings ordered for the time being. I am not considering any question of disposal.

    Court Staff (Industrial Dispute)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many actions of divorce have not been heard as a result of the strike of court staff in Scotland.

    Nearly all divorce actions are undefended and are dealt with through the affidavit procedure. This procedure has not been in operation since 23 February, but in normal circumstances about 200 actions are disposed of each week.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many civil proofs and jury trials in the Court of Session have not been commenced as a result of the strike of court staff in Scotland.

    This information is not available. Since the direction made by the Lord President of the Court of Session on 22 February under the Act of Sederunt (Suspension of Business) 1979, proofs and jury trials have not been set down for disposal.

    asked the Secretary or State for Scotland how many proofs in the sheriff court have been postponed as a result of the strike of sheriff court staff.

    This information is not available. Following the direction made by the Lord President of the Court of Session on 22 February under the Act of Sederunt (Suspension of Business) 1979, in most courts no proofs have been taken; in a few courts, however, where the Sheriff Principal has made an order varying the direction, proofs are being taken.

    Overseas Development

    India (Visits Of Departmental Staff)

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development what was the cost to the United Kingdom aid budget of visits to India by members of her Department and associates and advisers travelling on her instructions during the 12 months to the latest convenient date.

    The cost to the United Kingdom overseas aid and overseas aid administration votes of visits to India during the financial year 1978–79 to date by staff of my Department, members of associated scientific and specialised units and associated bodies and by specialists recruited for particular purposes travelling on my instructions was just over £300,000.

    asked the Minister of Overseas Development how many visits to India have been made by Members of her Department or associates and advisers travelling on her instructions during the 12 months to the latest conventient date and if she will set out the purposes of each visit.

    The number of visits to India during 1978–79 to date by staff of my Department, members of associated scientific and specialised units and associated bodies and by specialists recruited for particular purposes travelling on my instructions was 277. These comprised:

    ODM staff:
    Administration13
    Professional advisers33
    Associates:
    Sent by ODM79
    Sent by British Council (on behalf of ODM)152
    277
    The visits covered a great variety of subject areas such as agriculture, ground-water, land use, rock mechanics, hydraulics and hydrology, plant breeding, animal husbandry, plantation crops, forestry, fodders and pastures, fisheries, natural resources research, urban development, blood transfusion, community and primary health care, paediatric surgery, viral hepatitis, leprosy, malaria, nutrition, kala-azar disease, training of teachers of spastics, non-formal education, adult education, educational management and educational broadcasting. Many

    Total expenditure 1978–79 (unless otherwise stated) £Total expenditure on administration£
    Department of Agriculture
    Milk Marketing Board for Northern Ireland2,390,000950,000
    Pigs Marketing Board (Northern Ireland)753,650*512,000*
    Seed Potato Marketing Board for Northern Ireland158,789*142,168*
    Livestock Marketing Commission212,000*98,500*
    Northern Ireland Agricultural Trust290,000133,000
    Foyle Fisheries Commission242,000196,800
    Fisheries Conservancy Board for Northern Ireland640,000336,700
    Northern Ireland Fishery Harbour Authority488,400105,400
    Agricultural Wages Board28,50028,500
    Drainage Council436436
    Department of Manpower Services
    Enterprise Ulster10,796,0001,930,000
    Fair Employment Agency‡114,00097,000
    Equal Opportunities Commission‡95,00081,000
    Labour Relations Agency ‡433,000413,000
    Health and Safety Agency‡3,6243,624
    Construction Industry Training Board1,010,000195,000
    Engineering Industry Training Board1,450,000160,000
    Catering Industry Training Board310,000145,000
    Clothing/Footwear Industry Training Board270,000120,000
    Road Transport Industry Training Board490,000170,000
    Textiles Industry Training Board195,000110,000
    Man-Made Fibres Industry Training Board10,0005,000
    Distributive Industry Training Board350,000125,000
    Food/Drink Industry Training Board715,000130,000
    Ulster Sheltered Employment Limited220,00040,000

    of the visits were made in the form of team missions to appraise proposals for aid assistance—for example, coal sector, natural resources, urban development, family planning, fertiliser plants, foot and mouth disease vaccine plant, fertiliser education project, and coastal fisheries development. Any more detailed list of individual arrangements would be a lengthy one which I will consider supplying direct to the hon. Member if he so wishes.

    Northern Ireland

    Quangos (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he will estimate, in the case of each quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisation for which he is responsible (a) its total expenditure in the current year and (b) its total expenditure on administration, accommodation and general services, defined to include items such as salaries, telephones and postage, rent, rates, heating, travelling, transport, office equipment etc.

    There is no official definition of the term quasi-autonomous nongovernmental organisation. The following information, in resepect of bodies to which ministerial appointments are made, has been collected:

    Total expenditure 1978–79 (unless otherwise stated) £Total expenditure on administration£
    Department of Health and Social Services
    Northern Health and Social Services Board51,438,5712,930,279
    Southern Health and Social Services Board46,025,9512,079,902
    Eastern Health and Social Services Board156,956,3006,378,608
    Western Health and Social Services Board44,632,4001,832,136
    Central Services Agency for Health and Social Services1,866,0001,866,000
    Northern Ireland Staffs Council for Health and Social Services482,000240,000
    Northern Ireland Council for Nurses and Midwives2,039,000204,000
    Department of the Civil Service
    Northern Ireland Economic Development Office95,00045,000
    Ulster American Folk Park150,00090,000
    Department of the Environment
    Northern Ireland Housing Executive230,000,00019,000,000
    Planning Appeals Commission103,50044,752 (Salaries only; other costs not available)
    Local Government Staff Commission for Northern Ireland7,0007,000
    Northern Ireland Local Government Officers' Superannuation Committee2,710,000130,000
    Fire Authority for Northern Ireland6,970,000517,000
    Department of Education
    Northern Ireland Schools Examination Council866,000306,000
    Belfast Education and Library Board33,200,0002,500,000
    North-Eastern Education and Library Board33,300,0001,800,000
    South-Eastern Education and Library Board24,800,0001,700,000
    Southern Education and Library Board27,000,0001,800,000
    Western Education and Library Board24,700,0001,700,000
    Staff Commission for Education and Library Board52,08847,748
    Sports Council for Northern Ireland733,472281,200
    Ulster Museum1,157,0001,027,000
    Ulster Folk and Transport Museum1,431,000744,900
    Arts Council2,000,000298,675
    Department of Commerce
    Northern Ireland Tourist Board1,130,200685,600
    Northern Ireland Development Agency16,916,304605,000
    Local Enterprise Development Unit4,715,000630,000
    Warrenpoint Harbour Authority600,000199,000
    Londonderry Port and Harbour Commissioners618,000290,000
    Northern Ireland Consumer Council15,00015,000
    Northern Ireland Electricity Consumers Council26,000§26,00§
    Northern Ireland Office
    Police Authority for Northern Ireland92,800,0007,800,000
    Police Complaints Board78,40078,400
    Standing Advisory Commission on Human Rights23,00023,000
    Rathgael Training School1,527,567984,431
    Whiteabbey Training School300,593239,625
    Lisnevin Training School816,478545,062
    St. Patricks Training School969,446688,500
    St. Josephs Training School318,916218,587
    *Owing to difficulties in estimating expenditure for the current financial years these figures are in respect of the last financial year.
    In each case the figures include amounts for services provided on an agency basis for the Departments of Agriculture and Environment.
    ‡ These bodies provide services rather than exercise functions: most of their expenditure is on general administration.
    § Revenue is obtained from the Northern Ireland Electricity Service.

    Unemployment

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the unemployment figures for Belfast, Ballymurphy, New Barnsley, Milltown, Turf Lodge, St. Pauls and Lower Falls, respectively, and for Northern Ireland as a whole, for the past 10 years.

    The information can be given only for the Belfast employment service area, the electoral wards in the West Belfast parliamentary constituency—since February 1979—and for Northern Ireland, as shown in the tables below. It is only possible to give the percentage rates of unemployment for the travel to work areas and for Northern Ireland as a whole. The percentage figures for Northern Ireland are shown in brackets in Table 1.

    TABLE 1
    Total unemployed at FebruaryBelfast Employment Service AreaNorthern Ireland
    197010,72634,582(6·9)
    197111,84837,622(7·6)
    197212,80941,939(8·5)
    197310,63935,773(7·0)
    19747,82129,619(5·7)
    19758,76234,691(6·5)
    197616,06250,989(9·3)
    197718,89356,660(10·3)
    197819,96362,811(11·7)
    197920,47164,245(11·8)
    TABLE 2
    Electoral Wards in West Belfast Parliamentary ConstituencyTotal Unemployed at February 1979
    Andersontown785
    Central430
    Clonard518
    Court173
    Donegall302
    Falls463
    Grosvenor291
    Highfield376
    Ladybrook623
    Milltown454
    North Howard86
    St. George's196
    St. James506
    Suffolk836
    Whiterock1,216

    Ambulance Drivers

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, in view of the proposed five-day strike by ambulance drivers in Northern Ireland, what steps he proposes to take to ensure that emergency cases will be effectively taken care of.

    The unofficial five-day strike due to have commenced at midday on 7 March did not take place.Contingency arrangements had been made by the Department of Health and Social Services for those areas of Northern Ireland where services would have been withdrawn.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many meetings he or officials of his Department have had with the Northern Ireland ambulance drivers' representatives; and what were the results of such meetings.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, in view of the IRA terrorism prevailing in Northern Ireland and the special circumstances which it causes, if he will allow ambulance drivers to have a settlement outside the national arrangement.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many ambulances are in operation in Northern Ireland; and how many hours per week on average ambulance drivers are at present on duty.

    Irish Republican Army March (Belfast)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the riots resulting on 4 March from the Irish Republican Army march in Belfast; how many policemen were injured; what was the estimated cost of the damage done; how many rubber bullets were fired; and how many arrests were made.

    Terrorism

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many terrorist incidents, bombings, shootings, etc. have taken place in the past three months; and how these figures compare with the same months in each of the past five years.

    Bomb Damage

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the estimated amount of damage done by Irish Republican Army bombings during the past six months; and how this figure compares with the same months in each of the past five years.

    The records on criminal damage compensation to property are not compiled on a basis which distinguishes between Irish Republican Army bombings and damage caused by other terrorist organisations. The number of claims for compensation received for all types of criminal damage in the six months ended 28 February 1979 and in the corresponding periods in each of the last five years is as follows:

    Six months ended 28 February
    19792,244
    19782,586
    19774,164
    19766,322
    19754,786
    197410,543
    The value of the claims relating to the above periods cannot be obtained without a disproportionate use of staff time.

    Royal Ulster Constabulary

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) what was the strength of the Royal Ulster Constabulary on 1 March 1979; and how this figure compares with the strength of the police on 1 March 1978, 1 March 1977 and 1 March 1976;(2) what was the strength of the Royal Ulster Constabulary Reserve on 1 March 1979; and how this figure compares with the strength of the police reserve on 1 March 1978, 1 March 1977 and 1 March 1976.

    Following is the information:

    RUCStrengthRUC Reserve Strength
    1st March:
    19796,2654,608
    19785,7284,709
    19775,3784,685
    19764,9454,799

    Republican Parades

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many Republican parades have taken place in the past six months in Belfast; in respect of how many of these the statutory notice of intention was given; and how many prosecutions have been made for a breach of the required notice.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many Republican parades have taken place in Londonderry in the past six months; in respect of how many of these the statutory notice of intention was given; and how many prosecutions have been made for a breach of the required notice.

    Ministerial Correspondence

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland why letters from Ministers in the Northern Ireland Office to hon. Members on official business are sent through the post franked with 7p postage stamps.

    The policy of the Northern Ireland Office in respect of mail transmitted via the Post Office is that all mail of a non-urgent nature is always despatched by second-class post. Where the correspondence is considered to be urgent this is despatched by first class post. This policy applies to Members of Parliament, the general public and outside organisations without exception.

    Trades Union Congress

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he plans to meet the Northern Ireland Trades Union Congress.

    Both my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State and I meet the chairman and the members of the Northern Ireland committee of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions as and when necessary.

    Social Services

    Supplementary Benefit (Blind Persons)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he is prepared to increase the special higher rates of supplementary benefit for the blind to allow for inflation since 1962.

    While the excess of the blind scale over the ordinary supplementary benefit scale rates has remained unchanged since 1962, the blind have benefited since that date from the substantial increase in real terms of the ordinary scales. The hon. Gentleman will be aware of the current review of the supplementary benefits scheme and that the Government have still to make their response to the recommendations of the Pearson Commission. These are two areas where I can assure the hon. Member that I have the position of the blind very much in mind.

    Invalid Care Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many individuals are currently receiving invalid care allowance; and what is the estimated annual cost of this, taking into account the saving of supplementary benefit payments which would otherwise be made.

    At the end of February 1979 some 6,100 people were receiving invalid care allowance—ICA. The estimated annual gross cost of the benefit at current rates is £4 million. It is not possible to estimate how much would be paid in supplementary benefit if there were no ICA, because no information is available as to the resources of people now receiving the allowance.

    Radio-Diagnostic Consultancy (Basingstoke)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how long non-emergency patients have to wait for radio

    1 February19741 February19751 February19761 February19771February1978
    General surgery430438485544442
    Gynaecology434360275118107
    Oral surgeryNot knownNot knownNot knownNot known35
    Ear, nose and throat107597765820710
    Orthopaedics84338122121
    OphthalmicNot known448811988
    There has been no waiting list during the period for general medicine.The longest waiting period for non-urgent surgery is for varicose veins and may be up to six years depending upon the degree of urgency. I regret that this category of patient was not included in the answer I gave to the hon. Gentleman on 1 February when I quoted up to 18 months as the waiting time for non-urgent general surgery.—[Vol. 961, c.

    530.]

    Ambulance Men (Average Earnings)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how the average earnings of ambulance men compare

    diagnostic consultancy at the Basingstoke district general hospital following referral by local general practitioners; and, in particular, what is the longest delay likely to be experienced at the present time in relation to referral of a woman patient requiring investigation of an unspecified lump in the body.

    The waiting time for non-urgent cases requiring radiodiagnostic consultancy at Basingstoke district general hospital varies from nil to eight months, depending upon the procedure required. A woman patient requiring investigation of an unspecified lump in the body would be dealt with without delay.

    Hospital Waiting Lists (Basingstoke)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the waiting list at Basingstoke district hospital in February 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978 in each of the main specialties which have separate consultants attending the hospital; and what is the longest waiting period in respect of non-emergency surgery including varicose veins, hernias, and haemorrhoids.

    The figures are:with those of firemen; and what will be the effect of the recent pay offer to ambulance men.

    Present average earnings of ambulance men of £84·60 would be increased to just over £93; estimated average earnings of firemen are about £92.

    Nurses (Pay And Conditions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he is taking to improve the pay and conditions of nurses in the National Health Service.

    I have at present nothing to add to my right hon. Friend's reply to the hon. Members for Bournemouth, East (Mr. Atkinson) and Ealing, North (Mr. Molloy) on 6 March.—[Vol. 963, c. 1069–73.]

    St Columba's Hospital, Hampstead

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the hon. Member for Hampstead will receive a reply to his letter of 22 February and his question, tabled for written answer on 23 February, in respect to St. Columba's hospital, Hampstead, Camden.

    I shall be replying to the hon. Gentleman's letter within the next few days. I answered his question on 5 March.—[Vol. 963, c. 503–4.]

    Institute Of Hearing Research

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the progress which has been made in setting up the second English out-station of the Institute of Hearing Research.

    I am pleased to announce that approval has now been given to the setting-up of the institute's second English out-station at Nottingham. The out-station will be the largest of the institute's out-stations in Great Britain and will be located at the general hospital in premises to be specially adapted for the purpose, which will also contain the resited hearing aid centre. This represents a joint development with the health authority, designed to provide both research facilities and improved accommodation for hearing aid fitting and rehabilitation. It is expected that the first appointments to the new out-station's team will be made during the summer and that the premises will be fully operational by the end of the year.

    1971 Census (Prosecutions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many prosecutions were brought against individuals for refusal to give information in the 1971 census, how many prosecutions were successful; and what was the range of penalties imposed.

    A total of 434 prosecutions were brought for failure to complete the whole or part of a census form in England and Wales. Of these, 424 were successful. In a small number of cases the defendant, though found guilty, was granted a discharge. In six cases the maximum fine of £50 was imposed.

    Nursery Schools (Lambeth)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the proportion of full-time day nursery places to children under five years in the Lambeth partnership area; and how this will be improved by current plans.

    Information is not readily available in the form requested. I shall write to my hon. Friend.

    Jay Committee (Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the report of the Jay committee will be published.

    My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland, my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of Sate for Wales and I, have today published the report of the committee of inquiry into mental handicap nursing and care—Cmnd 7648, vols. I and II. We extend our warm thanks to Mrs. Peggy Jay and her committee for all the hard work and thought they have put into producing this far-reaching report on an important and difficult subject.The report is being widely circulated and comments are being sought. A shortened version, prepared by the Jay committee is also being distributed to staff working with mentally handicapped people in hospitals and local authority accommodation.We welcome the attention given by the Jay committee to the principles of residential provision for mentally handicapped people, and the stress it lays throughout on the fullest possible integration of mentally handicapped people into the life of the community as a whole—an aim which the Government strongly support.The Committee makes detailed and radical proposals for the manpower required for the residential care of mentally handicapped people in hospitals and in local authority accommodation, including a new form of training for the staff who provide that care. The report thus raises issues of major importance for the development of mental handicap services which local authorities are providing on an increasing scale, as well as for services provided by the National Health Service. Consultations on the specific training proposals in the report, in particular the concept of a single training body for all staff in this field, will be an important part of the discussions which will now start on the report.Any major change in the patterns of training would clearly take some years to bring about. But the Government will, in the meantime, seek to discuss urgently with the bodies now responsible for training how far they might adapt their present training arrangements to provide—as soon as possible—greater emphasis on the social aspects of care with particular reference to the special needs of mentally handicapped people on the lines envisaged in the Jay report.Whether or not the Jay proposals are accepted, the Government recognise that many mentally handicapped people will still require an NHS service for the foreseeable future and that staff who have received training in nursing will continue to have a key role in delivering this service.The committee makes some bold and imaginative suggestions for changes in the pattern of residential care. Many of these are based on pioneering work already undertaken by field authorities and voluntary bodies. We shall be studying closely the desirability and feasibility of what is suggested in the light of the public debate on the report. In Scotland, the committee's recommendations will be considered in the context of a recent review of services for the mentally handicapped carried out by the Scottish Health Services Planning Council and the Advisory Council on Social Work.In England and Wales the basic principles set out in the 1971 White Paper "Better Services for the Mentally Handicapped"—in particular the emphasis on community care—remain valid. But questions about the pace and direction of change are being raised not just by the Jay report but by the National Development Group, field staff and others. As I briefly indicated last year, I have decided that may Department should review, in consultation with the National Development Group, the present progress on the policies set out in the White Paper and the way these need to be developed. The pattern and progress of services for the mentally handicapped in Wales will be reviewed separately by the Welsh Office.As the review in England proceeds, it is intended to publish a series of discussion documents on the findings. The response to these documents, together with the results of the consultations on the manpower and training proposals in the Jay report, will be taken into account in deciding the guidelines needed by health and local authorities for their future care of mentally handicapped people.Some of the questions we shall be looking at in this review are:How is the incidence and prevalence of mental handicap and associated handicaps changing—for example because of better preventive measures and improved life expectancy?What kinds of services should we be providing to meet the varied needs of mentally handicapped individuals and their families—for example the best balance between day care and support in the home?How can these varied services best be provided in each locality? What are the implications for the organisation and staffing of services? What buildings will be needed?Did the White Paper get the balance between health and local authority services right? If not, what changes are required? What part can the voluntary movement play?What are the stages by which it will be practicable to move from the patterns of provision we have now to those desired in the future, taking into account resources and other constraints?How best can progress in improving the quality and level of services be assessed and encouraged?The Government's plans for developments in the mental handicap field—including their response to the Jay Committee's proposals—which the Committee acknowledge would have substantial resource implications—will necessarily be constrained by the availability of resources and other needs within the health and personal social services. But mentally handicapped people will continue to be a priority for additional resources and the coming public debate will help to determine the most effective way of providing them with better services.

    Wales

    Hill Farming (Compensation Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether, in view of the serious losses of livestock incurred by hill farmers during the present winter, and the sharply increased cost of feeding surviving livestock so as to counteract the effect of the severe weather, he will take steps to increase immediately the hill livestock compensation allowances.

    Hill farmers have undoubtedly faced severe weather conditions this winter, but it is too early to reach conclusions about their overall effect on livestock.

    Penygroes And Llanllyfni Bypass

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales, in view of the request by the Central Electricity Generating Board for the strengthening of bridges on the A487 trunk road in the vicinity of Penygroes and Llanllyfni, if he will consider accelerating the timetable for developing the bypass for these two villages along the disused Bangor to Afonwen railway track.

    These bridges are adequate to serve the needs of trunk road traffic generally. Should additional bridgeworks be required to enable the Central Electricity Generating Board to carry abnormal loads along this length of A487, this is likely to be an immediate need which would be paid for by the board. It could not be dealt with by accelerating the current route study announced in "Roads in Wales 1978" and the development of any consequent proposal for a bypass of Penygroes and Llanllyfni, which must be some time ahead.

    Council For The Welsh Language

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what action he proposes to take in response to the recent recommendations by the Council for the Welsh Language, inasmuch as responsibility for the language is unlikely to be devolved to a Welsh Assembly

    I hope to make an announcement shortly about support for the Welsh language.

    Coal Exchange, Cardiff

    asked the Secretary of State Wales what he is proposing to do with the former Coal Exchange in Cardiff which was scheduled to be the site for the Welsh Assembly; and how much money has been spent on the building to date.

    I have been asked to reply.The estimated cost of converting the Exchange building for use by the Welsh Assembly is £3,500,000 of which some £42,000 has been spent on preparatory work. The building is held on a 20-year lease with a break after 10 years. The future use of the building will be a matter for further consideration.