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Volume 967: debated on Tuesday 22 May 1979

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Written Answers To Question

Tuesday 22 May 1979

Education And Science

Quangos

12.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science for which quasi-autonomous national government organisaions he is responsible.

Some 25 bodies are involved, which I list below. They include a wide range of executive and advisory bodies.LIST OF BODIES FOR WHICH THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR EDUCATION AND SCIENCE HAS SOME RESPONSIBILITYAdvisory Board for the Research CouncilsAdvisory Committee on the Supply and Education of TeachersAdvisory Council for Adult and Continuing EducationAgricultural Research Council and InstitutesAssessment of Performance Unit Consultative CommitteeBritish Museum (Natural History)Burnham CommitteesBusiness Education CouncilCentral Bureau for Education Visits and ExchangesCentre for Information on Language Teaching and ResearchCentre for Information and Advice on Educational DisadvantageComputer Board for Universities and Research CouncilsCouncil for Educational TechnologyCouncil for National Academic AwardsCouncil for Accreditation of Corresponddence CollegesFurther Education Curriculum Review and Development Unit Board of ManagementGenetic Manipulation Advisory GroupLeague for Exchange of Commonwealth TeachersMedical Research CouncilNatural Environment Research CouncilSchools CouncilSocial Science Research CouncilScience Research CouncilTechnician Education CouncilUniversity Grants Committee

University Technicians (Pay)

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in the light of meetings on 16 and 17 February, he is asking the Standing Commission on Pay Comparability to conduct a speedy inquiry into the pay of university technicians using data already available and appropriately updated.

The Commission has agreed to report on university techni- cians' pay as soon as possible using data already collected suitably augmented and adjusted.

Assisted Places Scheme

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if it is his intention that legislation to re-establish financial support for pupils who qualify for entry into direct-grant schools will make provision for children who qualify to take up places in the autumn of 1979.

I would hope that the Government's proposed assisted places scheme would be ready for implementation in the autumn of 1981. How far it will extend on introduction will depend on the resources available at the time.

Education Act 1976

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what consultations he intends to have with regard to his proposals to amend the Education Act 1976.

The Education Bill published on 17 May follows the clear commitment given by the Government to introduce this legislation forthwith.

Comprehensive Schools (Liverpool)

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether, in his plan for comprehensive education for the city of Liverpool, he intends to maintain the policies of the previous Government; and, if not, what criteria he will use to alter the situation.

It is not for my my right hon. and learned Friend to make plans for the organisation of education in individual local authorities. If the Liverpool authority or the governors of any voluntary secondary schools in the city make proposals to him, he will consider them carefully.

Teachers (Pay)

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the current salary claims of teachers.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friends the Members for Melton (Mr. Latham) and for Mid-Sussex (Mr. Renton). I have no responsibility for the settlement of pay claims from teachers—other than university teachers—employed in Scotland.

28.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the level of teachers' pay.

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress he has made with the teachers' unions toward settling their pay dispute and ending disruption of children's education.

35.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he is taking to assist the local education authorities and the teachers' trade unions to reach agreement over the teachers' current pay demands.

I refer my hon. Friends to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friends the Members for Melton (Mr. Latham) and for Mid-Sussex (Mr. Renton).

School Meals

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what plans he has for reducing the price of school meals.

School Uniforms

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make an announcement about any proposals to increase the money available to help parents on low incomes to buy school uniforms for their children.

National Union Of Teachers

29.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects next to meet the general secretary of the National Union of Teachers.

Brookdale Park High School, Manchester

30.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement indicating his decision on the proposal of the Manchester local education authority to close Brookdale Park high school. Manchester.

My right hon. and learned Friend has not yet reached a decision on this proposal, but hopes to do so shortly.

Microelectronics

31.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many schools will participate in his Department's plans for the study of microelectronics; what will be the highest, and lowest, amount to individual schools; and what will be the average amount to all schools.

My Department recently invited comments on proposals to set up a programme to promote an awareness of microelectronics in schools and colleges in England, Wales and Northern Ireland. My colleagues and I will be considering the scope for such a programme in the light of public expenditure decisions and the part to be played by the education system as a whole in developing and applying this new technology. Questions about participation by individual schools in a programme might need examination thereafter, although any programme should be designed to bring benefits to schools generally.

11-Plus Examination

32.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has any plans to allow the reintroduction of the 11-plus examination in areas where it has been abolished; and whether this will mean the reintroduction of the secondary modern school.

It will be for local education authorities to decide the most appropriate form of organisation of secondary education for their areas, and to submit proposals to my right hon. and learned Friend, wherever necessary, under section 13 of the Education Act 1944, as amended. My right hon. and learned Friend would expect to receive proposals only after the most full and thorough consultations had taken place with parents, teachers, schools and other parties concerned.

Sixth-Form Students (Grants)

33.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether pilot schemes for grants to sixth formers to encourage more children to stay at school beyond the age of 16 years will be continued.

The previous Government's plans for pilot schemes of mandatory grants to 16–18-year-olds depended on the passage of their Education Bill, which fell with the Dissolution of Parliament. We opposed their plans at the time and will not seek to resurrect them now. We intend to review education and training for this age group and the question of financial support must be considered against the priorities emerging from that review.

Comprehensive Schools (Batley)

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he received from Kirklees metropolitan council in spring 1979 for reorganising schools in the Batley area as comprehensives; whether the second proposal submitted, for 11 to 18-year-old schools within the town of Batley, was the council's preferred scheme; and what procedures he proposes to adopt to ensure that the preferred scheme is implemented quickly to end uncertainty for all those concerned.

Two proposals were received by my right hon. and learned Friend's predecessor: one envisaged 11–16 comprehensive schools with sixth-form provision in a sixth-form college; the other, which the council indicated that it preferred, was for 11–18 comprehensive schools. Kirklees will now be asked whether or not it wishes to proceed with either scheme, following my right hon. and learned Friend's statement in the House on 16 May that he was withdrawing all requirements made by his predecessor under section 2 of the Education Act 1976 pending its repeal.

Truancy

37.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he will now put forward to reduce the incidence of truancy.

It is the statutory duty of parents to see that their children receive full-time education and local education authorities have powers to deal with cases of default. Earlier this year, my Department published a booklet on truancy and behaviour problems based on a survey carried out by Her Majesty's inspectors. The pamphlet drew attention to a number of aspects of good practice for consideration by LEAs and schools. It is too early to judge the response to this publication.

"Books For Schools"

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has received a copy of the report "Books for Schools"; and if he will make a statement on the variation between local education authorities in the amount spent on books per pupil.

My right hon. and learned Friend has received and is studying this report by an independent working party set up by the National Book League. Although there are technical difficulties in interpreting statistics of local education authorities' spending on books, the evidence points to some variations between authorities. But it is for each local authority to decide its own pattern of spending, in the light of local needs and circumstances.

Nursery Education

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he has for encouraging nursery education.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Short).

Members Of Parliament (Salaries)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what the additional public expenditure would be per annum if the most recent Boyle committee recommendation on hon. Members' salaries were fully implemented; and whether he will give consideration to these recommendations.

Full implementation of the recommendation contained in the Review Body on Top Salaries' seventh report—Cmnd. 6136—would cost about £0·7 million per annum. As the hon. Member is aware, the general issue of Members' pay is currently the subject of a further review by the TSRB. A report is expected shortly, which the Government will then consider with all due speed.

Church Of England (Appointments)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how he proposes to carry out his duties in respect of Church of England appointments.

I have decided not to undertake these duties: in circumstances such as the present, it has been the custom for them to be performed by the Clerk of the Council.

European Community (Council Meetings)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster when he expects to resume the practice of regular business statements concerning the expected agendas of the EEC Council meetings.

A written forecast of Community ministerial business will be deposited in the House on a monthly basis. The forecast of business for June will be deposited before the Whitsun Recess. My right honourable Friend the Lord Privy Seal will also make a regular oral statement to the House concerning forthcoming EEC ministerial business as parliamentary time allows.

Industrial Museum

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will assist in the establishment of an industrial museum at the Bugsworth basin on the Peake Forest canal.

No proposal to this effect has been put to me. If the hon. Member will write to me with details, I will consider the matter. The Government's responsibilities in respect of local museums are, however, limited, and I am afraid that I cannot promise any help.

Energy

Ayrshire Marine Constructors Limited, Hunterston

39.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he will announce an order for the construction of an oil platform or module at Hunterston.

Announcements of orders for items of equipment for the offshore market are a matter for the oil operating companies responsible for field developments. However, as the hon. Member may have seen from press reports, a letter of intent has been issued to Ayrshire Marine Constructors Ltd. at Hunterston for the construction of the steel gravity platform required for development of the Maureen oilfield. The formal contract is now being negotiated.

Petrol And Oil Supplies (Scotland)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what action he will take to provide ample supplies of petrol and oil products in Scotland to prevent developing scarcities in supply in view of Scotland's anticipated oil production of 65 million tons in 1979.

Oil is in short supply internationally and seems likely to remain so. Oil supply shortages can have very damaging effects on the international economic order, from which the United Kingdom, as a major trading nation, could not be insulated, whatever the disposition of our domestic oil production. We seek, with others, an international solution to an iternational problem. We are, specifically, committed with other signatories of the international energy agreement, and in the European Economic Community, to the exercise of internal demand constraint. It is for all of us, whether in Scotland or elsewhere, to practise strict economy in the use of oil products.

North Sea Oil

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what he estimates would be the return to companies in respect of the top 10 oilfields in the North Sea, assuming a petroleum revenue tax of 60 per cent. and a reduction of the uplift as envisaged by the previous Government.

I have been asked to reply.It woud not be right for me to provide information based on confidential data.

Civil Service

Manpower

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what plans he has for cuts in the size of the Civil Service.

To help with their objective of reducing the claims of the public sector on the nation's resources, the Government are committed to making economies in Civil Service manpower. As a first step, the Civil Service pay component of the 1979–80 cash limits will be reduced by 3 per cent. before limits are adjusted to accommodate the non-industrial, and subsequently the industrial, pay settlement. Any exceptions will be strictly limited and subject to offsetting savings being found in other expenditure.As a complementary measure, the Government have instituted a ban on recruitment into the Civil Service. It will last for three months in the first instance, and will be reviewed against the achievement of the 3 per cent. target. Exceptions will be strictly limited and made on a case-by-case basis.This action in 1979–80 will be followed by careful consideration of ways of achieving greater savings in the longer term.

Environment

Bugsworth Basin

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he will take to protect the ancient monument at Bugsworth basin from despoliation by commercial interests.

The owners of the monument, British Waterways Board, have been considering together with the local authority and amenity societies whether and how Bugsworth basin could be restored and developed for continued use, but no scheme has yet been submitted. Officers of the Department are in touch with the authorities concerned and are advising on the archaeological effects of proposals as they are being developed.

Council Houses (Sales)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish details of his proposals for legislation to enable all tenants of development corporations and councils to purchase their own houses.

On 17 May my right hon. Friend, during the debate on the Address, referred to our proposals to give council and new town tenants a right to buy their houses. The details of the legislation are still under consideration.

Partnership Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the percentage of spending in the partnership programmes on sport and recreation.

Expenditure on sport and recreation schemes in 1979–80 in partnership programmes represented some 9 per cent. of their total urban programme funds. We will be looking carefully at the resources which can be devoted to the urban programme, and discussing with local authorities the assessment of local needs.

Rent Rebates And Allowances

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the numbers (a) eligible and (b) receiving (i) rent rebates and (ii) rent allowances for each year since the scheme's inception; and if he will express the numbers receiving as a percentage of those eligible.

Following is the information:

RENT REBATES AND RENT ALLOWANCES: ENGLAND AND WALES
Local authority tenantsTenants of private unfurnished accommodationTenants of private furnished accommodation Numbers receiving
Estimated numbers eligibleNumbers receivingNumbers receiving as a percentage of those eligibleEstimated numbers eligibleNumbers receivingNumbers receiving as a percentage of those eligible
(thousands)(thousands)(thousands)(thousands)(thousands)
May 19731,00070060–705004810–157
April 19741,10084070–7550012020–2511
April 19751,20087070–7545015030–3510
April 19761,20097080–8540019045–5012
April 19771,2001,00080–8535020055–6010
April 1978Not available995Not availableNot available200Not available9
January 1979Not available985Not availableNot available200Not available8
Notes:
1. All figures exclude tenants receiving supplementary benefit (except short term cases).
2. From April 1976 eligible non-claimants who would be better off claiming supplementary benefit are excluded from the estimated numbers entitled to rebate or allowance.
3. It is not possible to provide estimates of the numbers of furnished tenants eligible for allowance.

Co-Operative Development

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list those local authorities which have officers designated to assist co-operative development in the industrial and housing fields, stating whether this is their sole responsibility or not, and listing each officer's title.

Community Land Act

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the future of the Community Land Act.

I refer the hon. Member to the statement made by my right hon. Friend in the debate on 17 May.—[Vol. 967, c. 407.]

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied with the present definition of operational land in the Community Land Act 1975.

The definition in the 1975 Act is the same as that in section 222 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971, which we are not proposing to change.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what allocations have been made to finance the community land scheme over the next five years.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply my right hon. Friend the Minister for Local Government and Environmental Services gave on Monday 21 May to my hon. Friend the Member for Rutland and Stamford (Mr. Lewis).—[Vol. 967, c. 67–8.] Any residual public expenditure provision will be made in the light of that statement.

Land

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list in the Official Report the powers presently available under which local authorities are enabled to purchase land.

Apart from the general powers in part VII of the Local Government Act 1972, many enactments dealing with specific local authority functions include land acquisition powers. To check and list all of them, as well as the powers in local Acts, would involve disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what definitions his Department uses for vacant and unused land.

These terms are not generally defined; they are normally used in their everyday meaning.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment to what extent local authorities have used the rating system to make the holding of derelict and unused land unprofitable.

Derelict and vacant land is not normally liable for rating since it is not in beneficial occupation. As for empty buildings, our most recent information is that approximately half of all rating authorities exercise their discretion under schedule 1 to the General Rate Act 1967 to levy the empty property rate, which includes all the London boroughs and the great majority of metropolitan districts. Nearly half of the authorities which are levying the empty property rate are levying it at 100 per cent. on all classes of property.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if, when the local discussions following replies from the nationalised industries on land release are concluded, he will propose that the partnership authorities publish the results;(2) when he expects the local discussions arising from replies from the nationalised industries on land release in partnership areas to be concluded;(3) if he will publish in the

Official Report the results of the reviews of surplus sites conducted by the nationalised industries and statutory undertakers as a consequence of his predecessor's letter 12 months ago to the chairmen of those bodies;

(4) what steps he will take to secure the better use of publicly owned land, particularly in the inner city areas.

The release of surplus land by local authorities and nationalised industries is vital. I am not satisfied that the review of surplus land holdings in certain inner city areas by local authorities and nationalised industries which was initiated under the last Government will produce the results that are needed or that publication of its conclusions would be of value. I am considering what more needs to be done.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will take steps to extend the liability for rating to derelict and vacant land.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will take powers to promote the use of clear signposting of ownership on undeveloped land so as to inform local people and assist permanent and temporary uses.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he is satisfied with the rate at which surplus land is being released for development by statutory undertakers.

No. I refer the hon. Member to what my right hon. Friend said in the debate on the Address on 17 May.—[Vol. 967, c. 406.]

Allotments

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will further assist local authorities in the provision of allotments by taking steps to make available for use by short-term letting and temporary usage derelict, unused land and land planned for a particular use but awaiting development.

Local authorities already have sufficient powers to enable them to enter into agreements with landowners for the use of such land for allotment purposes on a short or long-term basis.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether he will make inner London boroughs sub- ject to the statutory requirements which apply to other local authorities to provide allotments;(2) what power inner London boroughs have to make provision to satisfy the need for allotments.

No. Inner London boroughs have discretionary powers under section 23 of the Small Holdings and Allotments Act 1908 as amended by section 55 of the London Government Act 1963 which enable them to provide allotments.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what provisions he will make to encourage the growth of allotments.

Local authorities have sufficient powers relating to allotments to enable them to discharge their statutory duties. No special provisions are considered necessary.

Planning Permission

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he plans to amend the relevant Acts to require undertakers to apply to the appropriate local planning authority for planning permission in the same way as all other people;(2) if he will review section 40 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971, which allows development by statutory undertakers to receive deemed planning consent following authorisation by an appropriate Department.

Section 40 is now used only in the case of certain operations of energy statutory undertakers. In other cases, statutory undertakers apply for permission for proposed developments in the ordinary way, unless permission already exists under the general development order. My right hon. Friend will keep the matter under review.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the exemption of Crown land from the development control provisions of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971.

Crown development is exempt from development control, but DOE circular 7/77 sets out corresponding non-statutory procedures.

London Docklands

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the arrangements for administering London docklands; and whether he is satisfied with them.

The Greater London Council and the five London boroughs in whose area it falls are generally responsible for administering London dock-lands. These authorities have delegated certain functions—relating principally to planning, development control and industrial promotion—to the Docklands Joint Committee. Docklands is one of seven areas in which special partnership arrangements operate, and my right hon. Friend has recently written to the leaders in each of these areas saying that he intends to take their views before deciding the future of the arrangements.

Tuc

Q5.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister when last she met the Trades Union Congress.

Q19.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister when she last met representatives of the Trades Union Congress.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister when last she met the Trades Union Congress.

Q34.

I refer the hon. Members and my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Bromsgrove and Redditch (Mr. Miller).

Secretary Of State For Defence

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list the responsibilities of the Secretary of State for Defence.

The Secretary of State for Defence has overall responsibility for the work of the Ministry of Defence and for the Armed Forces.

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her public engagements for 22 May.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if she will state her official engagements for 22 May.

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 22 May.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her public engagements for 22 May.

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 22 May.

Q26.

Q28.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for 22 May.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 22 May.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 22 May.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 22 May.

I refer the hon. Members and my hon. Friends to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Hackney, Central (Mr. Davis).

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister what changes in her diary have had to be made for Tuesday 22 May arising out of the result of the general election.

Scotland

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister when she intends to make an official visit to Scotland.

I hope to visit Scotland later this year, but dates have not yet been fixed.

Taoiseach (Meeting)

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement about her meeting with the Taoiseach.

The Taoiseach called on me briefly on 10 May. It was a useful first discussion, and we touched on a number of topics. But it was not an occasion for substantive discussion.

Heaton Norris

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will pay an official visit to Heaton Norris.

Prime Minister (Perth Speech)

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if she will put in the Library those passages in her speech at Perth on Saturday 12 May which related to the Scotland Act and all-party talks.

Scottish Tuc

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister when she expects to meet the Scottish Trades Union Congress.

Civil Service (Expenditure Committee Report)

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will publish her views on the Expenditure Committee's report on the Civil Service.

The Expenditure Committee's report covered a wide range of issues concerning Civil Service management and relations between Parliament and Government. The Government will study the issues which it raised, bearing in mind the costs of implementing changes.

Washington, Dc

Q35.

Public Bodies

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if she will have a review carried out of all quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisations and of all boards, advisory boards and committees responsible to Ministers with a view to a reduction in their numbers and expense.

Yes. I have asked Ministers in charge of Departments to carry out an urgent review to this end.

Land Register

asked the Prime Minister whether she plans to locate departmental responsibility for a publicly accessible land register in the Department of the Environment.

Town And Country Planning Act 1971

asked the Prime Minister which Ministers are responsible for determining, and for which public landholders, whether land is operational under planning and rating legislation such as section 290(2) of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971.

Undertakings and Minister responsible for determination

Electricity undertakings in England and Wales, gas undertakings, the National Coal Board and undertakings for the supply of hydraulic power—Secretary of State for Energy.

Surface inland transport undertakings (excluding inland waterways) and statutory docks and harbour undertakings—Minister of Transport.

The Post Office—Secretary of State for Industry.

British Airports Authority, Civil Aviation Authority, lighthouse undertakings—Secretary of State for Trade.

Water undertakings in England and inland waterways—Secretary of State for the Environment.

Water undertakings in Wales—Secretary of State for Wales.

Electricity and water undertakings in Scotland—Secretary of State for Scotland.

Under rating legislation, the information is as follows:

Undertakings and Minister responsible for determination

Electricity undertakings in England and Wales and gas undertakings—Secretary of State for Energy.

British Railways Board, London Transport Board and statutory docks and harbour authorities—Minister of Transport.

British Waterways Board—Secretary of State for the Environment.

Electricity undertakings in Scotland—Secretary of State for Scotland.

National Finance

Personal Disposable Incomes

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the percentage change in real personal disposable income for each year since 1945.

The available information is given in the following table. Estimates of real personal disposable income are not available before 1948.

Real personal disposable income
Percentage change on preceding year
19492·8
19503·3
1951-1·3
19521·5
19535·0
19543·3
19554·6
19562·6
19571·7
19581·8
19595·2
19606·6
19614·1
19620·8
19634·4
19643·7
19652·6
19662·2
19671·4
19681·9
19691·0
19703·4
19712·9
19727·9
19735·9
19740·8
1975-0·6
1976NIL
1977-1·8
19786·4

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action he proposes to take as a result of the decision in Cook v Customs and Excise in which the VAT tribunal found that the Commissioners of Customs and Excise had not assessed the appellant taxpayer to the best of their judgment and awarded costs against the commissioners.

The Commissioners of Customs and Excise will be withdrawing the assessment and paying costs in accordance with the tribunal decision. Additionally, they will, in accordance with their usual practice, be studying the decision mentioned to see whether there is anything to be learnt from the particular facts of this case which could be applied generally.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, assuming an identical pattern of spending, what would be the extra annual cost to a family of two adults and two children with a total gross family income of £4,000 per year of a standardisation of value-added tax of 12½ per cent.

, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 21 May 1979; Vol. 967, c. 40], gave the following answer:It is estimated from the results of the family expenditure survey that the extra cost would be about £60 a year.

Tourist Industry (Tax Allowances)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will review the allowances obtainable for the tourist industry and, in particular, hotels and restaurants so that they may be treated for tax purposes for allowances on the same basis and in the same manner as industrial allowances.

Malaysia (Double Taxation Agreement)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he proposes to negotiate a double taxation agreement with Malaysia; and if so, when the negotiations will take place.

A comprehensive double taxation agreement with Malaysia has been in force since 1973. An amending protocol is being discussed with the Malaysians to take account of changes in their tax system.

Tax Liability

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report the number of persons liable to tax and the number of persons taken out of tax for each financial year since 1945 on the following basis: (a) married couples counted as one and (b) married women counted separately.

YearNumber liable to income taxNumbers not liable who would have been liable if allowances of preceding, year had remained unchanged
('000)('000)
(a)(b)(a)(b)
1945–46····NilNil
1946–47······2,000
1947–48········
1948–4914,300····Over 2,500
1949–50····NilNil
1950–51····NilNil
1951–5216,200······
1952–5315,400····Over 2,000
1953–5415,900··NegligibleNegligible
1954–5516,600··NilNil
1955–5616,300····2,400
1956–5717,100··NilNil
1957–5817,300······
1958–5917,700······
1959–6018,40020,900NilNil
1960–6119,200··NegligibleNegligible
1961–6219,900··NilNil
1962–6320,10023,200····
1963–6417,80020,400··3,700
1964–6518,50021,100····
1965–6619,30022,000··100
1966–6719,70022,800NegligibleNegligible
1967–6820,00023,300NegligibleNegligible
1968–6920,70024,200-200-200
1969–7020,60023,7006001,100
1970–7120,00023,1001,3002,100
1971–7219,70023,400200200
1972–7318,90021,7001,8003,000
1973–7419,80023,300100100
1974–7520,50024,5005001,500
1975–7620,90025,400600800
1976–7721,30026,000500800
1977–78 (provisional)20,50024,7001,3002,100
1978–79 (estimated)21,20025,700200400
(a) Married couples counted as one.
(b) Married women counted separately.
·· Not available.
Figures for numbers of taxpaying earning wives are available directly only since 1959–60 for years in which a survey of personal incomes was held. Estimates of the numbers of persons not liable to tax but liable on allowances of the previous year are often made at the time of the Budget Statement, on the basis of the information available at that time. For the earlier years these estimates have been included in the table where available. It has not been possible without expenditure of undue resources to determine whether these figures would need revision if they were recalculated in the light of the more recent—and more complete—information. In years when allowances and limits were not changed, it is, of course, known that no persons were taken out of tax.

European Community

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the total net contribution made to the EEC by the United Kingdom since Great Britain joined the EEC; and what estimate he has made of the likely contribution in 1979.

, pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 21 May 1979; Vol. 967, c. 40], gave the following answer:The total net contribution by the United Kingdom to the Community Budget since accession is £1,416·5 million, The latest estimate of the United Kingdom's net contribution in 1979, given in the "Government's Expenditure Plans 1979–80 to 1982–83" (Cmnd. 7439), was £780 million at 1978 survey prices, equivalent to about £850 million at current prices.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table showing the United Kingdom gross and net contributions to the EEC budget since joining the Community, together with whatever forecasts are available to him for future years.

, pursuant to his reply [Offical Report, 21 May 1979; Vol. 967, c. 40], gave the following answer:The United Kingdom's contributions to, and the public sector receipts from, the Community budget since accession have been as follows:

£ million
Gross ContributionReceiptsNet contribution
1973181·178·7102·4
1974180·5149·930·6
1975341·7397·7-56·0
1976462·8295·5167·3
1977736·8368·4368·4
19781,348·3544·580·38

The latest forecasts for future years, at 1978 survey prices, were published in the White Paper "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1979–80 to 1982–83" (Cmnd. 7439) as follows:—

Gross ContributionReceiptsNet contribution
19791,430650780
19801,655760895
19811,715940775
19821,710925785
19831,600720880

Trade

Africa

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will list the value of United Kingdom exports to and imports from each African State in 1978.

This information is available in table IB of the December 1978 issue of the overseas trade statistics of the United Kingdom, in the House of Commons Library.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will list the estimated value of invisible earnings in 1978 to the United Kingdom from each African State.

I regret that, for practical and conceptual reasons, information on invisible earnings in total is not available in the detail requested.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will list the estimated United Kingdom direct investments and portfolio investments in each African State.

The information available relates only to the book value of net direct investment overseas by the United Kingdom, excluding oil, insurance and banking. The latest figures for individual countries relating to the position at the end of 1974 are published in table 1 of Business Monitor, M4, 1974 supplement, "Census of Overseas Assets 1974", a copy of which is in the Library.

Land

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many acres of land are owned by the British Airports Authority, civil aviation, and lighthouse undertakings, respectively; and how much of each acreage is surplus to requirements and is being offered for sale as development land.

The British Airports Authority and the Civil Aviation Authority own 8,975 acres and 4,300 acres of land respectively. None is surplus to requirements. To obtain this information for lighthouse authorities would involve disproportionate cost.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Simonstown Agreement

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will take steps to renegotiate the Simonstown agreement; and if he will make a statement on his policy in respect of the protection of sea routes in the South Atlantic.

The agreement was terminated in 1975, so the question of renegotiating it does not arise. The freedom of the trade routes in the South Atlantic is of great importance, and Her Majesty's Government are ensuring that arrangements for their protection are as effective as possible.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Green Pound

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has any plans to devalue the green pound during the next six months; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when, and to what extent, he proposes further to devalue the green pound.

The Government are taking stock of the situation in farming. Our policy is to devalue the green pound within the normal lifetime of Parliament to a point which would enable United Kingdom producers to compete on equal terms with those in the rest of the European Community.

Marginal Land

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has any plans to help the marginal farmers; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what immediate steps he has in mind for assisting farmers of marginal land.

My right hon. Friend is studying the cost and feasibility of helping those areas of poor land which are farmed extensively in the same way as the hills but which lie outside the existing less-favoured areas.

Dairy Farming

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the state of the dairy industry; and if he will make a statement.

My right hon. Friend is currently giving urgent consideration to the position of the dairy industry.

Defence

War Graves Cemetery, Cologne

38.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the vandalism at the British War Graves cemetery near Cologne.

During the weekend of 28 and 29 April, 146 headstones commemorating Commonwealth war burials and 19 headstones commemorating post-war Service burials in Cologne Southern cemetery were damaged. None of the graves was disturbed. Of the total of 165 damaged headstones, 143 have since been repaired and work has begun on the other 22. An investigation into this vandalism is being carried out by the West German authorities, which have now arranged for the cemetery to be patrolled at night.

Married Quarters

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will review the self-help married quarter internal decorations system in the Royal Air Force; and if he will make a statement.

A review of the regulations governing self-help redecoration of RAF married quarters instituted by the hon. Member has been completed. He will be glad to hear that a more liberal policy is being introduced which should provide a sensible balance between the freedom of occupants to decorate their married quarters to their own taste and the avoidance of unnecessary expenditure. Applications for self-help will be considered sympathetically within published guidelines and a wider choice of colours will be available.Some qualifications must remain: for instance, as a result of difficulties experienced in the current scheme, it is not intended to continue the loan of brushes or to provide materials other than paint. The trade union side of the DOE departmental joint industrial council has been consulted and has accepted the proposals, but has made it clear that if the operation of the scheme affects its members it reserves the right to raise the matter in the future.

Scotland

Land

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make available centrally information on how many acres of land are owned by electricity and water undertakings in Scotland, with a view to discovering how many acres of this is surplus to requirements and is being offered for sale as development land.

No. The additional work involved in assembling this information centrally would not be justified.

Northern Ireland

Postal Voting

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what percentage of the electorate in Northern Ireland applied for a postal vote for the general election on 3 May.

3·96 per cent. of the electorate in Northern Ireland applied for a postal vote for the general election on 3 May. After these applications had been scrutinised, postal voting papers were issued to 3·19 per cent. of the Northern Ireland electorate. Postal votes accounted for 4·02 per cent. of the valid vote.

Industry

Small Businesses

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what action his Department proposes to take to encourage small businesses.

The Government's proposals to encourage small business are set out in the Conservative manifesto, 1979, and I would also refer the right hon. Member to the passage on small firms in the Gracious Speech.

Industry Act 1972

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list those firms in the Ormskirk constituency and the Knowsley industrial estate that have received assistance under sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act 1972 since 1974 and indicate the amount received by each firm and for what purpose.

Lists of individual firms receiving selective assistance are published quarterly in Trade and Industry in accordance with arrangements announced in the House on 31 July 1974. The lists exclude cases where assistance is below the prescribed minima; where no payment has so far been made; or where the offer was made before 31 July 1974.

The following offers under section 7 to firms in respect of projects in the Ormskirk constituency had been published under these arrangements up to 31 January 1979:

Name of Firm and Value of Offer

Lowes Ltd.7,350
Fruit Packers and Distributors50,000
Yorkshire Imperial Metals Ltd.162,000
Williams Harvey0
Concrete Utilities Ltd.16,800
Landon Kingsway Ltd.25,526
Sensing Devices Ltd.5,000
Cross International A. G.57,600
Washbourn and Garrett Ltd.768
Dubilier Electronics Ltd.747,442
Prorec Ltd.7,650
Kirkby Manufacturing and Engineering3,900,000
Downland Bedding Co. Ltd.18,750
Dubilier Electronics Ltd.58,800
Norman Simmons and Co.1,200
A. Kinnings and Sons Ltd.4,680
Rentokil Group Ltd.42,075
W. Pendleton and Sons Ltd.7,200
Pendltons Sweets Ltd.14,000
Garrick Eng. Co. Ltd.3,655
Clayton Commercials Ltd.6,650
Harris Engineering Ltd.24,284
F. D. Centre (UK) Ltd.137,062
L. Greenberg & Son Ltd.24,000
Westbrook (Liverpool) Ltd.70,200
Excelare Engineering Co. Ltd.5,718
Tanglin Packaging Ltd.1,350
Carousel Meat Packers Ltd.150,000
Bell Sons and Co. (Druggists)19,710
Yorkshire Imperial Metals Ltd.6,720
Sensing Devices Ltd.9,878
Birds Eye Foods Ltd.674,000
Yardley Plastics Ltd.14,490
Newage Kitchens (Holdings) Ltd.138,000
Norman Olverson (Scarisbrick)5,325
K.M.E.860,000
Aughton Automation Ltd.4,488
Garrick Eng. Co. Ltd.9,250
Cavenham Confectionery Ltd.119,700
Sannop Ltd.24,000

No offers have been made under industry and investment schemes authorised by section 8 in respect of projects in the Ormskirk constituency. I regret that the information on projects on the Knowsley industrial estate is not readily available.

Aughton Automation

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much Aughton Automation has received under sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act and for what purpose since 1972.

An interest relief grant of £4,488 offered to the company under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972, in respect of a project at Kirkby, Liverpool, is being announced in Trade andIndustry in accordance with the arrangements announced in the House on 31 July 1974. No assistance has been offered under section 8.

National Enterprise Board

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether it is intended that the National Enterprise Board should proceed with its investment in INMOS and subsidiary companies.

I do not envisage the board failing to meet its contractual commitments.

Footwear Industry (Assistance)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the future of the Government scheme of assistance for the footwear industry.

My right hon. Friend is reviewing all existing schemes of support and will give his decision upon the future of the footwear scheme in due course. In the meantime, applications for assistance under the scheme will continue to be processed.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much money has so far been granted to the footwear industry under the footwear assistance scheme; how many applications for assistance have been received from footwear manufacturers; and how many applications have been made by firms in Norwich.

As at 18 May 1979, offers of assistance under the footwear industry scheme totalled £1·13 million and 245 applications had been received, of which 19 were from firms in Norwich.

Home Department

Illegal Immigrants (Detention)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the present number of people in prison on charges of being illegal immigrants; and if he will give a breakdown of the time each person has been held in prison.

Information about the number of people in prison awaiting trial on a charge relating to unlawful entry is not readily available. There were on 17 May 50 persons detained as illegal entrants in prison and elsewhere on the authority of an immigration officer.The periods of detention were:

1 month or less20
More than 1 month and up to and including 2 months16
More than 2 month and up to and including 3 months7
More than 3 month and up to and including 6 months5
More than 6 month2
The longest period of detention was 12 months.

Ports Of Entry (Welfare Services)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give details of the welfare services supported by Her Majesty's Government at ports of entry into the United Kingdom.

Section 23 of the Immigration Act 1971 provides that the Secretary of State may with the consent of the Treasury make grants to any voluntary organisation which provides advice or assistance for, or other services for the welfare of, persons who have rights of appeal under the Act. The only grant made under this section is to the United Kingdom immigrants advisory service, whose main function is to provide free representation at appeals but which also provides a limited amount of welfare assistance.

Election Deposit

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to increase the deposit required from candidates at a general election from £150 to a more realistic figure; and if he will index-link this figure in line with the cost of living.

I shall be considering this and other electoral matters in the light of experience of the elections held on 3 May and 7 June.

Prison Officers (Vacancies)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, what is the present number of prison officer vacancies at each prison in England and Wales.

The schedule below gives the position at each prison service establishment.

PRISON OFFICERS VACANCIES IN ENGLAND AND WALES
Acklington17
Albany23
Aldington3
Appleton Thorn3
Ashford14
Ashwell8
Askham Grange2
Aylesbury11
Birmingham7
Blantyre House2
Bristol5
Brixton31
Brockhill7
Buckley Hall1
Bulwood Hall14
Camp Hill8
Campsfield House1
Canterbury4
Coldingley9
Cookham Wood5
Deerbolt Camp13
Dorchester4
Dover5
Drake Hall17
Durham16
Eastwood Park4
Erlestoke6
Everthorpe4
Featherstone12
Feltham/Finnamore Wood10
Ford9
Foston Hall4
Gartree21
Gaynes Hall2
Glen Parva7
Grendon/Springhill25
Guys Marsh4
Hatfield/Gringley Camp3
Hewell Grange2
Highpoint10
Hindley10
Hollesley Bay1
Huntercombe5
Kirklevington3
Latchmere House1
Leeds14
Leicester15
Lincoln7
Liverpool14
Long Lartin29
Low Newton2
Manchester20
Moor Court12
Northallerton1
Northeye1
North Sea Camp6
Norwich2
Onley6
Oxford8
Parkhurst29
Pentonville19
Portland3
Pucklechurch8
Ranby5
Risley14
Rochester2
Rudgate3
Send4
Shepton Mallet9
Stafford4
Standford Hill18
Stoke Heath5
Styal4
Sudbury3
Swinfen Hall4
Usk6
Wakefield15
Wandsworth13
Wellingborough1
Werrington3
Whatton4
Winchester4
Wormwood Scrubs40
Wymott88*
* Not fully operational—Staff build-up in progress.

Vietnamese Refugees

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many men and women allowed entry into the United Kingdom from Vietnam have now been able to find full-time employment.

I regret that this information is not available; however, I shall discuss with the voluntary refugee organisations to what extent it is possible to obtain any useful information on this matter.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the total cost to date of helping to accommodate refugees allowed entry into the United Kingdom from Vietnam.

The total cost includes payments from the funds of voluntary organisations, supplementary benefit and other items. Information about these payments is not available and in some cases would be impossible to obtain. Grants made by the Home Office in the last financial year to voluntary refugee organisations to assist them with the reception and resettlement of refugees from South-East Asia amounted to just under £145,000.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many centres are able to accommodate refugees from Vietnam; and where they are situated.

Refugees from South-East Asia who are in need of accommodation on arrival are housed in nine hostels run by voluntary refugee organisations and located in London, Dewsbury, Harrogate, Gosport, Haslemere, Wolverhampton, Ambleside, Redhill and Brighton.

Fire Regulations

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, following the 10 deaths in the recent fire in Woolworth's of Manchester, what steps he proposes to take to review the fire regulations applicable to departmental stores and places of entertainment when furniture in those premises contains polyurethane foam.

The attention of chief fire officers has already been drawn, in a report circulated in November 1978, to the fire risk of furniture containing polyurethane foam. In the case of premises falling within classes of use already designated under the Fire Precautions Act 1971, such as department stores, the fire authority is entitled to have regard to the existence of stocks of such furniture in satisfying itself, before issuing a fire certificate, that there is no impediment to the safe and effective use of the means of escape from the premises. As regards places of entertainment, equivalent safeguards can be imposed by way of licensing conditions.

Employment

Merseyside

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the latest unemployment figures on Merseyside.

At 10 May 1979, 83,371 people were registered as unemployed in the Merseyside special development area. The Government recognise that the level of unemployment on Merseyside is unacceptably high, particularly among the young, and we are determined to do all we can to reduce it.As an indication of the importance we attach to the problems of the area, my right hon. Friend is beginning a programme of regional visits by going to Merseyside on 25 May, where he will be meeting trade unionists, employers and representatives of the local authorities.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has to reduce unemployment in the construction industry on Merseyside.

Whilst I am naturally concerned at the high level of unemployment amongst construction workers on Merseyside, I welcome the fall in the figure over the last 12 months.There are a number of local authority, private sector and Property Services Agency projects on Merseyside which together will provide considerable employment in the years ahead. Some of these projects have been brought forward to increase present job opportunities.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has to alleviate unemployment on Merseyside amongst young school leavers.

The employment prospects of school leavers everywhere are dependent on national and local economic factors. The Government intend to create a climate in which there will be more secure and wealth-creating jobs, by removing the barriers to enterprise, reforming taxation and providing employers and others with the incentive to succeed.In the meantime, the youth opportunities programme continues to provide unemployed young people with work preparation and work experience. Community industry also has a significant role in helping young people with particular difficulties. I see both programmes as having an important role in areas such as Merseyside.

Manpower Services Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the working of the Manpower Services Commission; and if he will make a statement.

Courtaulds Red Scar Mill, Preston

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what employment subsidies are currently being given to the Courtaulds Red Scar Mill, Preston; and what proposals he has for continuing such subsidies and which programmes.

Youth Opportunities Programme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the working of the youth opportunities programme; and if he will make a statement.

Preston Travel-To-Work Area

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what immediate plans he has to improve employment prospects for the school leavers in 1979 within the Preston travel-to-work area.

It is the Government's determination to create the right climate for more and more permanent employment. The part that can be played by the youth opportunities programme and community industry in helping unemployed school leavers find permanent jobs is at present under review.

National Museum Of Labour History

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what assistance he intends to give, in response to the application from the National Museum of Labour History, in respect of grants for courses in the field of social and labour history.

Mr. McCarthy, the curator of the National Museum of Labour History, wrote to me on 7 May, congratulating me on the election victory and my appointment as Secretary of State. He also asked me to point out sources of revenue for the museum, or to put him in touch with industrialists who might wish to support the museum in its work. I have replied to Mr. McCarthy's letter, informing him that I do not know of any source of immediately available funds but promising to explore possibilities if the opportunity arises, and to get in touch again if these efforts are successful.

Bilston Steelworks

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what assistance is to be provided by his Department to help find employment for workers at present employed at the British Steel Corporation's Bilston steelworks; and whether he proposes to provide extra facilities arising from the closure of the steelworks.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that, in addition to the normal services provided by its employment and training services divisions to help people obtain or train for suitable employment, special job-finding facilities and extra staff have already been provided on site to help those who are being made redundant at Bilston. These facilities include a self-service job display giving details of local jobs, information on jobs further afield and advice about opportunities for retraining.

Transport

Heavy Goods Vehicles

asked the Minister of Transport whether he proposes to initiate an inquiry into the subject of heavy goods vehicles; and if he will make a statement.

I have decided that it would be right to proceed with an independent inquiry with the terms of reference already announced:

"To consider the cause and consequences of the growth in the movement of freight by road and, in particular, of the impact of the lorry on people and their environment; and to report on how best to ensure that future development serves the public interest".
I will announce the form of the inquiry and its membership as soon as possible.The Government recognise the concern about heavy lorries. But they carry about two-thirds of our freight traffic and are of great importance to the economy. We need to see how the public interest is best served, taking account of economic benefits, the efficiency of road freight transport, and the damage and disruption which lorries can cause. In particular, the inquiry must face squarely the issue of whether there should be any change in the present limits on maximum weight.People and organisations will be able to put their views to the inquiry, but I shall be concerned to see that it is not unduly protracted.

Ludlow Bypass

asked the Minister of Transport what was the estimated construction period and the estimated cost of the Ludlow bypass when work commenced; what is the current estimated cost; and when he estimates this bypass to be open for public use.

When work began, in June 1977, the construction period was estimated at two years and the cost at £4·44 million. Completion is now expected by November this year at an estimated cost of £4·54 million. Neither figure includes the cost of providing the new underline railway bridge which was the subject of a separate contract. Nor does the current estimate make provision for possible contractual claims or the net additional costs arising from the

SchemeEstimate coast November 1978 pricesConstruction time
£
A49/A456 junction, Woofferton: Improvement of visibility and junction layout130,0001 year
Visibility improvement on bend at Bromfield12,0003 months
Hunger Hill diversion: Realignment of carriageway and improvement to junction500,0001½–2 years
Visibility improvement at A49/B4370 junction3,0002 months

Railway Closures

asked the Minister of Transport if he will list the number of miles of railway closures that have taken place under each Government since 1945.

This information is only readily available in calendar years from 1951 and is as follows:

Passenger and Freight Route, Miles closed
Year
1951117
195290
195356
195472
195591
195640
195764
1958118
1959289
1960137
1961170
1962437
1963501
19641,005
19651,067
19661,127
1967562
1968748
1969405
1970310
1971161
1972120
1973118
197461
197538
197673
197733
197848

receiver managing the contract, the latter estimated at £20,000–£30,000.

A49

asked the Minister of Transport what improvements he plans will be undertaken on the A49 in Shropshire south of Shrewsbury in the next five years; and what is the estimated cost and construction time.

Subject to the availability of funds and completion of the statutory processes, the following improvements are planned to be undertaken in the next five years:

Employment

East Aberdeenshire

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied that the report received from the committee which investigated the dangers at the NATO base and the adjoining gas terminals is such that no danger exists to the population living in that area of East Aberdeenshire.

My right hon. Friend is satisfied with the conclusions which were reached by the steering committee on radio frequency hazards at St. Fergus, Scotland, and which were published by the Health and Safety Executive in the report of the steering committee on 28 February 1979.The report describes research and an extensive series of tests carried out at three gas processing plants at St. Fergus to discover if dangerous sparks could be caused at the plants by high-frequency radio signals from a nearby naval wireless transmitter station.The steering committee report concludes that there would be an ample margin of safety at the existing Total and British Gas Corporation gas plants at St. Fergus, with the radio station at Crimond operating at full capacity. The position is similar at the Shell plant at its present stage of construction, but the report recommends that further site tests should be made on the Shell plant as structures are completed; if necessary, safeguards will be introduced by Shell.The steering committee was chaired by an officer of the Health and Safety Executive and included two independent experts as well as representatives from the Ministry of Defence and operators of the three processing plants.

Social Services

Moss Lea Adult Training Centre, Ormskirk

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many persons are currently waiting for admission to Moss Lea adult training centre, Ormskirk; and how long they have been waiting.

Eleven, of whom four are still at school and one at another adult training centre. The remaining six people have been waiting between two and eight months for admission.

Mentally Handicapped Persons (Ormskirk)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what future plans there are to increase training facilities for mentally handicapped persons in Ormskirk.

There is one 60-place adult training centre in Ormskirk. I understand that, because of the present distribution of facilities for the mentally handicapped in Lancashire, the county council is currently concentrating its resources on remedying deficiencies in other parts of the country. I have no plans at the present for increasing the number of training centre places in Ormskirk.

Detoxification Centres (Leeds And Manchester)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to continue financial support for the Leeds and Manchester detoxification centres; and what is his policy in relation to these projects.

These experimental detoxification centres were set up on the basis that support from central funds has been limited to an agreed period, and thereafter it would be for the appropriate health and local authorities to determine whether the centres should continue as a local service. The agreed three-year period for the Leeds centre ends this month, but has been extended for a further six months to allow more time for local consultation about its future; that for the Manchester centre ends in November 1980.

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will list for each year since 1974 the number of families with children and the number of persons in these families living below, on and up to 110 per cent., 120 per cent. and 140 per cent. of the supplementary benefit level according to the standard employment status groupings;(2) how many children in each year since 1974 were living in families (

a) below, ( b) on, ( c) up to 110 per cent., ( d) 120 per cent. and ( e) 140 per cent. of the supplementary benefit level; and in each case how many of these families had a head (i) in full-time work or self-employed and (ii) unemployed;

(3) if he will list in the Official Report the number of persons and families living ( a) below, ( b) on, ( c) up to 110 per cent., ( d) 120 per cent, and ( e) 140 per cent. of the supplementary benefit level for each year since 1974 according to the standard family and employment status groupings.

Information in some detail for the years 1974 to 1976 has already been made public, but my Department is still working on 1977 figures. I will publish all the available information for these four years in the Official Report as soon as this work has been completed. Figures for 1978 will not be available until next year.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he can provide the following information for each of the supplementary benefits offices at Cheltenham, Rivershill House, Thames North, Scarborough Street, E1, and Thames South, Marshalsea Road, SE1, respectively: (a) the number of full-time officers employed at these offices to investigate possible fraudulent social security claims during the last year for which figures are available, (b) the total number of social security fraud cases at these offices for which convictions were obtained in that year, (c) the total amount of social security benefits involved in those cases of fraud for which convictions were obtained in that year, (d) the total

Supplementary benefit
Year ended 20 February 1979CheltenhamThames NorthThames South
(a) Number of full-time officers employed to investigate possible fraudulent claims523
(b) Number of fraud cases prosecuted*10995170
(c) Amount of supplementary benefit involved in the cases at (b).Figures not available and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.
(d) Number of claims for supplementary benefit12,56441,68118,937
(e) Total amount paid out in supplementary benefit.Figures not available and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.
* Convictions are not recorded by Local Offices but the national figures show that 97 per cent. of cases prosecuted result in convictions.
The figures for the Thames North and Thames South offices are not comparable with those for Cheltenham because:

  • (i) Cheltenham deals with all types of claimants but the Thames offices deal exclusively with claimants who have no fixed address or who live in a common lodging house.
  • (ii) The majority of claims at the Thames offices are of short duration although there may be numerous repeat claims.
  • (iii) The majority of the Thames offices' cases are prosecuted by the police, whereas most of the Cheltenham cases are prosecuted by the Department, which necessitates greater use of its staff resources on fraud work.
  • Family Income Supplement

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the numbers (a) eligible and (b) claiming family income supplement for each year since the scheme's inception; and if he will present the numbers claiming as a percentage of those eligible.

    I regret that information is not available in the form requested, but the hon. Member may find it helpful to refer to tables 32.05 and 32.16 in "Social Security Statistics 1977", published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, a copy of which is in the Library. Table 32.05 shows with additional detail the total numbers of claims for family income supplement processed up to 1977. The number processed in 1978 was 160,449. Table 32.16 gives an estimate of FIS take-up in 1975, which remains the most recent reliable estimate of take-up currently available. Note (b) to table 32.16 gives estimates of FIS take-up from 1972 on

    number of social security claims received at these offices in that year and ( e) the total amount of money paid out in social security benefits during that year.

    The information requested, in so far as it is available, is as follows:wards. It is hoped that the family finances survey, now in progress, will yield better information on take-up, based on a much bigger sample of low-income families with children than is available from the family expenditure survey the source of table 32.16.

    Fentem Report

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has received the Fentem report; and if he will make a statement.

    I have seen this report, and read it with interest. But I do not feel that I could usefully comment on it beyond noting that it appears to throw up a number of possible topics for some further research.

    Mixed Wards

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy towards the increase in the number of mixed wards within National Health Service hospitals; and what guidance he is prepared to offer area and regional health authorities in this matter.

    I am loking into this matter and I will let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.

    Benefits

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the number of claimants drawing (a) flat-rate national insurance and (b) earnings-related unemployment benefit for each year since 1948; and if he will list those totals as a percentage of the registered unemployed.

    NUMBER OF CLAIMANTS RECEIVING (i) FLAT-RATE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFIT WITH OR WITHOUT EARNINGS RELATED SUPPLEMENT* AND (ii) FLAT-RATE UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFIT WITH EARNINGS-RELATED SUPPLEMENT (ERS)†—GREAT BRITAIN
    Estimated numbers of claimants in thousandsEstimated numbers of claimants as a percentage of the registered unemployed
    Year (November)Receiving flat-rate unemployment benefit with or without ERSReceiving flat-rate unemployment benefit with ERSReceiving flat-rate unemployment benefit with or without ERSReceiving flat-rate unemployment benefit with ERS
    194825578
    194924776
    195021270
    195119969
    195229272
    195320664
    195415057
    195512455
    195615558
    195718859
    195833463
    195924156
    196017851
    196120253
    196231458
    196325453
    196417249
    196516651
    1966275585712
    1967318955617
    1968294975318
    1969279925017
    19703021045117
    19714591645319
    19723521244516
    1973197783915
    19742751064417
    19755252354922
    1976 (May)5872454920
    19775612384218
    1978 (May)5262044116
    * Taken from a 100 per cent. count on a day in November each year except 1976 and 1978 when the figures given refer to May (no count was made in November 1976 because of industrial action and the figures for 1978 are not yet available).
    † Earnings-related supplement was introduced in October 1966. Estimates of ERS are derived from a 5 per cent. sample count made on the same day as the 100 per cent. count referred to above.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the size of the increase in benefits necessary to compensate (a) single persons, (b) married couples and (c) claimants with one, two, three and four children, drawing each of the main social security benefits, for price rises resulting in financing each one penny reduction in the standard rate by increasing value added tax.

    I regret that this information could not be provided without incurring disproportionate cost.

    Elizabeth Garrett Anderson Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he has reached a decision on the future of the

    The information requested is given below.Elizabeth Garrett Anderson hospital; and if he will make a statement.

    The future of the Elizabeth Garrett Anderson hospital has been the subject of widespread debate for several years. The previous Government explored various possibilities for transferring the Elizabeth Garrett Anderson's services to other hospitals and closing the building on the Euston Road site. A solution on these lines proved unacceptable to many of the interests concerned, and in consequence uncertainty was allowed to continue.In the Government's view, what is needed is a role for the Elizabeth Garrett Anderson which would be both consistent with the long tradition of the hospital and the principles of its founder, and at the same time fulfil a genuine need for women not currently met by the health services in that part of London. The role that we have identified is for a women's hospital dealing with women's disorders both for out-patients and inpatients.Subject, therefore, to what is said below about finance, I have decided that the hospital should in future provide an extensive range of out-patient and clinic services in the gynaecological field—including family planning, infertility investigations, pregnancy terminations, screening and counselling services—and be supported by a day hospital of about 18 beds and an in-patient gynaecology unit of about 40 beds. The hospital should operate in close association with a nearby general hospital and would be intended to serve a wide catchment area in the North Thames regions but not exclusively so.Money is available within the revenue allocations to the North-East Thames region to cover the running costs of such a hospital, but the Government are convinced that the capital cost can and should be met in partnership between the Government and voluntary contributors. We are satisfied that there are many individuals and organisations who would wish to join in raising the necessary funds, and who have already expressed their support.Detailed arrangements are still under consideration, but, as an indication, the Government undertake to finance the capital cost of the basic in-patient and related out-patient services, while we would look to voluntary funds to finance the day hospital and the wide range of out-patient and clinic services which could properly be carried on at the hospital. It would, of course, be open to those concerned, once these facilities are operating, to examine whether other related services should be developed on the site.I am asking the health authorities to set up a joint project team and produce detailed plans as a matter of urgency. Redevelopment will take time. Meanwhile, the Elizabeth Garrett Anderson should take a step towards its new role by concentrating its in-patient gynaecology services in its temporary accommodation at the Whittington and maintaining its related out-patient services at Euston road.It is my hope that this announcement will remove the uncertainty that has for too long persisted. With the Government and the NHS prepared to commit resources to the hospital, I hope that the necessary support will now be forthcoming from public subscriptions and other voluntary sources, so that all can work together with enthusiasm to open a new chapter in the long and distinguished history of this much-loved women's hospital.

    Poor Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the numbers of (a) households and (b) persons in the North-West living below, at 110 per cent., 120 per cent. and 140 per cent. of the supplementary benefit scale rates; and if he will classify this information according to family type and occupational grouping for each year since 1974.

    I regret that we have no such figures on people living in particular areas of England. Such information as is available relates to the whole of the country.