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Volume 968: debated on Wednesday 20 June 1979

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Written Answers To Question

Wednesday 20 June 1979

Civil Service

Efficiency

65.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what proposals he has for improving the operational efficiency of the Civil Service.

66.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what plans he has to improve efficiency in the Civil Service.

Departments have already been required to make a cut of 3 per cent. in their staff costs this year and departmental Ministers are currently examining options for significant savings While the main savings in the medium term will have to come from a reduction in functions, we certainly hope to achieve savings through greater efficiency, and all Ministers are committed to the search for this Sir Derek Rayner will advise departments on how to promote efficiency and eliminate waste He is consulting my right hon. Friends on the best way of doing this.

Scientists

67.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what action he is taking radically to reverse the low number of scientists entering the Civil Service.

The Government are continuing with a review of the recruitment, structure and management of the Scientific Civil Service which will look in some detail at the factors influencing the recruitment of scientists.

Salaries (Assessment)

68.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service, whether he is satisfied that the inflation-proofing of Civil Service pensions is taken fairly into account in the assessment of Civil Service salaries.

Differences in pension benefits, including provision for pensions increase, are taken into account in comparing Civil Service salaries with outside rates by a deduction made on the advice of the Government Actuary, who is the Government's independent adviser in this field. This deduction represents the Government Actuary's own professional judgment, and I have no reason to doubt it.

Civil Servants (Wales)

69.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is his estimate of the total number of Civil Service jobs which will be lost in Wales as a result of the Government's reduction in public expenditure.

The reductions in 1979–80 public expenditure programmes announced by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his Budget speech on 12 June did not include any reference to Civil Service jobs. As for the Government's intentions to secure savings on the size and cost of the Civil Service over the next few years, I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Totnes (Mr. Mawby) on 11 June [Vol. 968, c. 68].

Dispersal

71.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what consultations he is having in his reappraisal of the Government's policy on Civil Service dispersal.

We shall be consulting with the Departments concerned with dispersal, taking account of the views expressed in representations made during the reappraisal, and inviting the views of the staff side of the National Whitley Council.

Recruitment

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what are his proposals for the future recruitment of personnel for the Civil Service.

The present temporary ban on recruitment will be reviewed shortly Ministers in charge of Departments are conducting a radical review of their activities. The Government's decision on this will be announced in the autumn, and the level of recruitment will be adjusted accordingly.

Official Paid Stationery

70.

asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he is satisfied that the cost of official paid stationery is shown satisfactorily in the accounts of all those using it.

The form in which the cost of official paid stationery is shown in departmental accounts is a matter for the user Departments.

Retirement Payments

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is his latest estimate of the annual cost to public funds of tax-free retirement payments to civil servants.

Retiring civil servants have since 1935 received a lump sum payment equal to three times their annual pension The cost of these payments, which are no greater in value than the lump sum retirement benefits offered in most good occupational pension schemes, is estimated to be £131·3 million in the current financial year. Such benefits are tax free, in common with all similar benefits payable under schemes approved for tax purposes by the Inland Revenue.

Departmental Organisation

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the co-ordination concerning elimination of waste in Government Departments; what instructions she has issued to her Ministers to undertake a programme of eliminating waste; and if she will ensure that these programmes are carried through diligently.

I have asked my Cabinet colleagues to make it their personal responsibility to promote efficiency and eliminate waste in their Departments. They will be reporting to me from time to time on their progress, and I am asking Sir Derek Rayner to assist in co-ordinating the exercise.

Law Centres

asked the Attorney-General whether he and his noble friend the Lord Chancellor have plans for ensuring that law centres are funded independently of local authorities and neither directly nor through the urban aid programme.

No The Government's policy on law centres will be reviewed in the light of the recommendations of the Royal Commission on legal services, whose report is expected later this year.

Defence

Departmental Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has given today in answer to his question concerning the elimination of waste in Government Departments.

Hong Kong

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he has received any request to reinforce the Hong Kong garrison; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. This was discussed during the Governor's recent talks in London. The Government have agreed to a request for additional forces to assist the Hong Kong Government more effectively to control illegal immigration from China Reinforcements, consisting of an infantry battalion from the United Kingdom and two companies from the Gurkha battalion in Brunei, together with helicopters, hovercraft, a fast patrol boat and supporting personnel will start to move to Hong Kong in the next few days.

Salt Ii

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the SALT II agreement.

My right hon. Friend has been asked to reply.The Government welcome the completion of the SALT negotiations and the signature of the agreement by President Carter and President Brezhnev. We have long supported efforts to achieve strategic arms limitation. We hope that the treaty will be ratified successfully.

Expenditure Committee

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if, immediately, he will move to reappoint the Expenditure Committee so that the uncompleted inquiries of the Committee's sub-committees may be concluded.

I suggest that any further decisions on the Select Committee structure of the House should await the forthcoming debate on the Procedure Committee's proposals. I hope, however, that, whatever the House decides about these proposals, arrangements can be made to ensure that, where feasible, Select Committee inquiries outstanding at the Dissolution of the previous Parliament are completed.

Arts Council

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what is the total financial support from public funds given in the current financial year to the Arts Council.

The revised Estimates which will be presented to the House will include a grant of £59,736,000 to the Arts Council.

Home Department

Community Service Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will extend the community service scheme, or a variant of it, to cover juveniles.

Television Licence Fees

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what would be the loss of revenue arising from a concessionary half price television licence to be granted to all retirement pensioners, including those at present benefiting from a 5p licence.

The latest available estimate of the cost of providing half price television licences to all households containing one or more retirement pensioners is between £50 million and £55 million a year.

Fines

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will give for the longest and most convenient stated period of time the annual and cumulative amounts of fines outstanding; what action has been, or is to be taken, to ensure that payment is made; and whether he will consider appointing a fine collecting service paid for on a basis of costs being recovered from the fines as collected.

The following table shows the amounts of fines collected by magistrates' courts in England and Wales during each of the financial years for which the information is available and the amounts outstanding—excluding inner London—at the end of each of those financial years:

Fines collectedFines outstanding
££
1970–7118,095,9666,381,604
1971–7221,338,8656,946,074
1972–7325,529,6587,871,879
1973–7432,045,24210,436,914
1974–7535,570,34812,800,148
1975–7645,885,99017,818,896
1976–7759,022,05120,581,337
1977–7871,246,59422,126,110
The figures for outstanding fines include fines imposed but not yet due for payment.The enforcement of fines is a matter for the courts concerned. They have several methods open to them, including the threat of imprisonment and distress upon goods.We have no plans to appoint a separate fine collecting service.

Departmental Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what precise steps he is taking to uncover and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister has given to his question on the same subject today.

Air Guns

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to prevent the sale of air guns and air rifles which are imitations of ordinary firearms.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he will introduce legislation to require the production of a birth certificate before air guns can be purchased and to raise the age for purchase to 18 years;(2) if he will introduce legislation to seek to raise the age of entitlement to use an air rifle from 14 to 16 years.

Prison Governors (Pensions)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give the details of the present pension arrangements for prison governors; and if he will make a statement.

Members of the prison governor grades are covered by the principal Civil Service pension scheme and in general are entitled on retirement to an annual pension calculated on the basis of 1/80th of salary for each year of reckon-able service, plus a single lump sum payments of 3/80ths for each year of reckonable service.

Police Evidence (Comments Of Magistrate)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Chief Constable of the Metropolis, in the light of the comments of Sir Ivor Rigby at Marylebone magistrates court over the veracity of police evidence after the acquittal of the defendants charged with assaulting the police during the match through Soho in October 1978.

I understand that the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis has appointed an investigating officer to enquire into associated complaints against the police. His report will in due course be referred to the Director of Public Prosecutions, unless it is clear that no criminal offence has been committed, and to the Police Complaints Board for its independent consideration of the disciplinary aspects. It would not be appropriate for me to intervene in the procedures provided by law for the investigation and consideration of such complaints.

Prison Officers' Association

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has to meet the general secretary of the Prison Officers' Association.

I have already met the general secretary of the Prison Officers' Association on two occasions since becoming Home Secretary.

Local Authority Boundaries

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he expects the review of local authority boundaries to be completed in time for the 1980 elections in South Tyneside.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to a question by the hon. Member for Jarrow (Mr. Dixon), on 14 June.—[Vol. 968, c. 265–6.]

Immigration

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many New Commonwealth and Pakistan citizens were admitted to Great Britain under the distressed relatives category for 1977 and 1978;(2) how many New Commonwealth and Pakistan citizens applied for entry to Great Britain under the distressed relatives provisions in 1977 and 1978;(3) how many citizens of the New Commonwealth and Pakistan applied for entry under the provisions for parents, grandparents and children over 18 years, in 1977 and 1978;(4) how many citizens of the New Commonwealth and Pakistan were admitted to Great Britain under the provisions for parents, grandparents and children over 18 years in 1977 and 1978.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what consultations he proposes to conduct with ethnic minority groups in Great Britain and Governments abroad, prior to any impending changes in the immigration rules.

I am ready to consider carefully the views of ethnic minority groups but I have no plans for consultations with them or with Goverments abroad.

Licensing Acts (Fete Prizes)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to clarify the Licensing Acts in relation to the giving of prizes of bottles of alcoholic drink at fetes held on unlicensed premises.

I am certainly aware of the problem and have it under examination. How ever, I do not expect that there will be an early opportunity for Government legislation on the subject.

Work Permits

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what are the current categories of work-permit-free employment.

They are listed in paragraph 25 of the "Immigration Rules for Control on Entry: E.E.C. and Other non-Commonwealth Nationals"—House of Commons paper 1972–73, No. 81—and paragraph 29 of the corresponding rules about Commonwealth citizens—House of Commons paper 1972–73, No. 79.

Education And Science

Departmental Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

Departmental Organisation

asked the Paymaster General what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

Apart from a small caller office in London, the whole of my Department is located in Crawley, Sussex.For many years my Department has taken advantage of modern methods to increase efficiency with the result that the work load of the Department, which is entirely demand-related, has increased since 1956 by 300 per cent. with an increase in staff of only about 50 per cent. This has been achieved by the effective use of office machines and computers, coupled with a continuing review of staffing levels by a small group of O & M specialists.In spite of the extent of the past economies the officers of my Department are co-operating fully with me in a fresh examination of the work load and working methods to see whether there are any additional savings which can be contributed towards the present economy drive.

Industry

British Leyland

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he has seen the chairman of British Leyland since Sunday 10 June.

The chairman of BL and my right hon. Friend see each other as frequently as necessary.

Investment

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what steps he is taking to increase investment in the North-West, in Merseyside and in Kirkby, in particular.

My right hon. Friend is currently studying the arrangements to help areas such as Merseyside.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what plans he has to encourage investment and industrial expansion in the Brigg and Scunthorpe constituency.

My right hon. Friend is currently reviewing the arrangements for encouraging industrial development in different parts of the country.

Departmental Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

% FIXED CAPITAL FORMATION*
£ per capital
1973197419751976
United Kingdom190227292336
North-West182†197215247
North223†269371401
Scotland207268358389
Wales211227300369
Source: Regional Accounts.
* Total for all industries excluding shipping distribution and private services.
† Regional boundaries for the North-West and North were adjusted after 1973.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the Government capital formation per capita in each of the last four years in the North-West, the Northern region, Scotland and Wales.

CENTRAL AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT FIXED CAPITAL FORMATION
£ per capital
1973197419751976
North-West61*687177
North78*8194100
Scotland76101117121
Wales707897108
United Kingdom65788997
Source: Regional Accounts.
* Regional boundaries for the North-West and North were adjusted after 1973.

Transport

Motor Cyclists (Training)

14.

asked the Minister of Transport what representations he has received on the present system of training motor cyclists.

I attach very great importance to the need to increase the number of riders taking training. I will consider what steps can be taken after I have received the recommendations of the advisory committee on motorcycle training.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given him today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

Capital Formation

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the fixed capital formation per capita in each of the last four years for (a) the United Kingdom, (b) the North-West, (c) the Northern region, (d) Scotland and (e) Wales.

I have been asked to reply.Fixed capital formation by all industries except distribution, shipping and private services is given below for the latest four years for which information is available.

I have been asked to reply.Information for the latest four years for which information is available is as follows:

38.

asked the Minister of Transport what steps he intends to take to improve the training of motor cyclists.

I wish to consider the forthcoming report of the advisory committee on motorcycle training before developing policy in more detail.

Public Transport (Fares)

27.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take steps to limit fare increases on public transport.

Liverpool Inner Ring Road

19.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will now agree to a public inquiry into the proposed Liverpool inner ring road.

I have nothing to add to answers I gave to the hon. Members on 12 June.

Road Building Programme

25.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has any plans to expand the road building programme.

My plans, along with other public expenditure plans, will be announced in due course.

Blennerhasset Report

29.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has any plans to make a statement on his policy towards the Blenner hasset report.

Concessionary Fares

31.

asked the Minister of Transport what is his policy towards concessionary bus fares for the elderly and disabled.

50.

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects to open discussions on the proposals contained in the Green Paper on concessionary fares for elderly, blind and disabled people.

54.

asked the Minister of Transport what progress he has made in his consultations on concessionary bus fares.

I refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Members to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Bromsgrove and Redditch (Mr. Miller) and the hon. Member for Bolsover (Mr. Skinner).

Lorries (Permitted Weight)

30.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will give an undertaking that the permitted weight of lorries using roads in the United Kingdom will not be increased pending the results of his inquiry.

Driving Standards

32.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has any plans for improving driving standards.

I shall consider any proposals put forward to improve driving standards.

Retford Relief Road

33.

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will explain the reason for the delay in completing the second stage of the Retford relief road.

This is a local authority scheme for which responsibility rests with Nottinghamshire county council, but this Department has been involved in the statutory procedures. These are complex and in particular the compulsory purchase orders for the land will have to be laid before Parliament because of the effect on public open space.

British Railways

34.

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects next to meet the chairman of the British Railways Board.

asked the Minister of Transport when he proposes to meet the chairman of British Railways.

I refer the hon. Member and my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Members for Derby, South (Mr. Johnson) and Derby, North (Mr. Whitehead).

East Coast Railway (Penmanshiel)

35.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the situation on the East coast railway line at Penmanshiel in Berwickshire.

The railway is being restored on a new alignment in open cut to the west of the tunnel which is being abandoned. Good progress is being made and the Railways Board plans to reopen the line on 1 October 1979.

Commuters

36.

asked the Minister of Transport what recent discussions he has had with bodies representing commuters.

M1 Bridges (Lufon—Hemel Hempstead)

37.

asked the Minister of Transport what was the cost of recent repairs to the bridges over the M1 between Luton and Hemel Hempstead; how long he expects it to be before further repairs either to the bridges or the road surface in this section of the M1 will be necessary; and if he will make a statement.

The repairs to these three bridges cost about £100,000.The work involved the provision of a waterproofing layer between the road surface and the bridge structure. Two further bridges will require waterproofing in the near future, but there are no immediate plans for any carriageway works.

Railways (Electrification)

39.

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects to publish the report on the first stage of the joint British Rail-Department of Transport review of the case for further main line rail electrification.

I expect to receive the interim report this summer, and I shall then consider the case for publishing it.

Evesham (Bypass)

40.

asked the Minister of Transport what are the Government's plans for the construction of the Evesham bypass.

I am aware of the importance which my hon. Friend attaches to this scheme. I hope that public consultation about the route will start early next year. Subject to satisfactory completion of statutory procedures and availability of funds, construction could start in the mid 1980s.

Channel Tunnel

41.

asked the Minister of Transport what discussions he has had with British Rail on the latest proposals for a Channel tunnel link; and if he will make a statement.

Discussions between British Rail and my Department are continuing. It is too soon to say what the outcome may be.

National Freight Corporation

42.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the future of the National Freight Corporation.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Gosport (Mr. Viggers).

Bridgnorth (Bypass)

43.

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects construction to start on the Bridgnorth bypass in Shropshire; how long he estimates the work to take; and what is the estimated cost.

There are no trunk roads running through Bridge-north. Responsibility for any bypass proposals therefore rests with Salop county council as highway authority.

Rural Areas

45.

asked the Minister of Transport if he has any plans for the improvement of transport in rural areas.

One of my aims will be to reduce the obstacles that now lie in the way of the provision of transport services attuned to the needs of rural areas.

Road Markings

46.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will take steps to have more extensive use made of continuous-edge carriageway road markings in non-built up areas in order to reduce the number of road accidents.

The use of edge lining is generally a matter for decision by local highway authorities, but this Department drew their attention in November 1977 to its safety benefits. The relative effectiveness of broken and unbroken edge lining will be the subject of a two-year experiment starting later this year.

Diesel Multiple Units

44.

asked the Minister of Transport what representations he has received regarding the replacement of diesel multiple units on British Railways.

I have received a number of letters on this matter, but it is for the Railways Board to decide its own investment priorities in the light of operational requirements and available funds. The hon. Member may also like to refer to the debate on the Adjournment for 12 June in which I spoke about the replacement of diesel multiple units.—[Vol. 968, c. 407–8.]

British Transport Docks Board

47.

asked the Minister of Transport what is his policy towards the future responsibilities of the British Transport Docks Board.

I have no immediate plans to change the responsibilities of the British Transport Docks Board.

Hull

48.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will set up an inquiry into the continued industrial disruptions in the port of Hull.

Roads (Construction Standards)

51.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will review his standards for the construction of new roads so as to reduce the cost and the quantity of agricultural land required for the purpose.

The Department's road design standards are constantly under review with a view to reducing the cost of the construction of new roads, and I shall ensure that the need to minimise the loss of agricultural land continues to be borne in mind as an important feature of that review.

Roads (White Paper)

49.

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects to publish the White Paper on roads.

asked the Minister of Transport when the annual roads White Paper will be published.

I intend to publish a White Paper on roads but have not yet decided on the timing.

Tachographs

52.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement on the implementation of the EEC tachograph regulations.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Newbury (Mr. McNair-Wilson).

Driving Tests

53.

asked the Minister of Transport if it is his policy to refund expenses to those learner drivers unable to take driving tests as a result of industrial action.

No refund of expenses is made where a test is lost as a result of industrial action involving withdrawal of labour for which the Department is not responsible. Applications for refunds arising from examiners' working to rule whilst working for the Department are considered on their merits. In all cases a fresh test is arranged without charge.

M6

55.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will now announce his decision in relation to the Barthomley link with the M6 motorway.

Numerous alternative routes put forward by the public have had to be considered. I hope to announce the preferred route soon.

M54

56.

asked the Minister of Transport what is the latest estimate of the cost of the proposed M54; and whether he will review this project in view of the fact that the case against a six-lane motorway has been accepted and bearing in mind the need to cut public expenditure and save good agricultural land.

The present estimated cost of this scheme is about £54 million. Trunk road schemes are kept under review in the light of changing circumstances. I cannot comment on the question of the land required for the current proposals as this is the subject of a public inquiry. When the inspector's report is received, the proposals before the inquiry and the objections and representations in respect of them will be full considered.

Driving Test Examiners

57.

asked the Minister of Transport how many vehicle driving test examiners retired or resigned in the last year; how many applied to become driving instructors; and what was the rate of failure in the latter test.

Our records do not in general distinguish between former examiners and other applicants to become driving instructors. But of the 94 examiners who retired or resigned in the year ended 31 May 1979, six applied to qualify as instructors before leaving; four succeeded and two have not completed their examinations.

Radioactive Materials

58.

asked the Minister of Transport if he is satisfied with the safety precautions surrounding the transportation by rail of radioactive materials; and if he will make a statement.

Yes. All radioactive materials carried by rail are required to be packaged in accordance with very high standards prescribed in the internationally agreed International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) transport regulations. The type of packaging varies according to the contents and level of radioactivity involved, and safety is ensured by the packaging used.In the case of irradiated fuel moving from CEGB power stations to Windscale the massive flasks which carry the fuel are transported under conditions designed to ensure that they would withstand without failure the effects of very severe accident conditions. This Department has responsibility for assessment and approval of the flask designs against the comprehensive performance standards prescribed in the IAEA regulations and for approving the shipment arrangements specific to the design. The appropriate approval certification from this Department is required in order for the flasks to be accepted for carriage by rail.

Road Safety

asked the Minister of Transport if he has any plans to introduce further road safety measures.

Improving road safety is one of my priorities. I lay particular value on reducing accidents to children and young people. I am continually seeking measures to achieve this.

Severe Weather Conditions (Costs)

asked the Minister of Transport what is the latest estimate of the cost to local authorities of snow clearance and extra maintenance due to the severity of the winter.

In March the Association of County Councils estimated that these particular local authority costs would be about £32 million for snow clearing and £55 million for extra remedial maintenance work. I am aware of no further estimates.

Nuclear Waste

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will take action to stop the transport of nuclear waste on the London transport system through the heavily congested areas of the East End of London until such time as investigations take place on the adequacy of safety precautions.

I have nothing to add to the answer given to the hon. Member to his question on 14 June.—[Vol. 968, c. 318–9.]

Motorways And Trunk Roads

asked the Minister of Transport if he will list in the Official Report his Department's pre-tender estimates of the prices for each trunk road contract let in 1978, together with the actual price of the accepted tender.

SchemePre-tender estimateAccepted tender
£m.£m.
A1 Felton bypass, stage 2B21·4
A1 Grade separated junction at Darrington1·41·5
A3 Burpham-Ladymead diversion11·010·6
A40 Gloucester Northern bypass, advance earthworks1·61·3
A259 Bexhill Old Town bypass1·81·4
A406 Hanger Lane-Western Avenue junction3·13·1
A428 Little Houghton bypass1·71·0
A629 Skipton bypasses-advance drainage works0·60·8
M5 Widening Lydiate Ash-Quinton4·33·6
M20 Ashford-Sellindge17·914·9
M20 Sellindge-Folkestone15·213·8
M25 Thorpe-Chertsey8·87·6
M25 A13-A12 stage 111·511·0
M25 Chertsey-Wisley advance bridges—related road works1·41·1
M56 Hapsford-Stoak6·65·4
M56 Stoak Interchange6·64·8
M56 Stoak-Powey Lane4·74·3
M58 Aintree-Skelmersdale29·39·721·8
Bickerstaffe section
Melling section12·1
M67 Denton relief road stage 110·310·1
NOTE: The pre-tender estimates listed above correspond in coverage to the tender they exclude contingency allowances (land) and ancillary items included in estimates of total cost.

asked the Minister of Transport if he will list in the Official Report all motorway and trunk road schemes with a total cost of between £1 million and £10 million in the same format as the appendix on page VI-23 of the Supply Estimates 1979–80.

The total provision for schemes costing between £1 million and £10 million also covers expenditure on motorway communications, service areas, noise barriers and some other miscellaneous items. The estimates for individual schemes are those current at the time, and cover their total cost, including land and a contingency allowance. I have arranged for copies to be placed in the Library.

asked the Minister for Transport what factors have led to the reduction from the figure of £508·3 million for spending on the motorway and trunk road programmes estimated in Cmnd. 7439 to the figure of £487·2 million given in the supply estimates, all figures at 1978 survey

The information required is as follows:prices as given in columns 7 and 8 of page VI-x of the Supply Estimates 1979–80; and if this reduction indicates that further underspending of the motorway and trunk road budget is anticipated in the current financial year.

I shall answer for England, where the apparent reduction in spending provision for the programme is £17 million. However, this includes £10 million attributable to a technical adjustment relating to the price base, which does not represent a cut in the volume of expenditure. There will be a further reduction of about £8 million resulting from the cuts in public expenditure announced by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 12 June 1979. We have no reason, at this stage, to expect that expenditure this year will be below provision for reasons other than these.

Departmental Organisation

asked the Minister of Transport what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given him today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

Cycle Schemes

asked the Minister of Transport if he will list in the Official Report all the cycle schemes with a substantial experimental element, or which serve as demonstration projects to which his Department has made a financial contribution.

So far cycle schemes of this kind in Portsmouth, Peterborough and Middlesbrough have received financial support. Discussions are continuing with other authorities.

M25 (Public Inquiry)

asked the Minister of Transport if he is satisfied with the impartiality of professional witnesses submitting evidence on behalf of his Department to the M25 inquiry.

Steel Coils

asked the Minister of Transport if any progress has been made in the drawing up of regulations for the safe transport of steel coils.

Regulation 97 of the Motor Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1978 embodies a general requirement for the safe and secure loading of vehicles. It would not be feasible also to include detailed requirements on all the various types of load. How ever, the Department's published code of practice on safety of loads gives advice on the loading of metal coils, and the intention is to review it shortly in the light of recent tests.

Motor Cycles (Noise Levels)

asked the Minister of Transport when the EEC directive with regard to noise levels emitted by motor cycles will be implemented.

We hope shortly to consult interested bodies on draft regulations to apply these limits.

"Free Wheeling"

asked the Minister of Transport how many local authorities have asked for the loan of the film "Free Wheeling".

51. In addition, officers from 15 local authorities have attended showings of the film organised by the Department's regional offices.

Taxation Revenue And Public Road Costs

asked the Minister of Transport if he will provide an estimate for 1979–80 of the taxation revenue and public road cost figures given in page 112 of the transport policy consultation document; and if he will break down the road cost figures into construction, maintenance, traffic policing, courts and administration.

Public Road Costs for 1977–78, 1978–79 and 1979–80

The average expenditure for the United Kingdom on highway provision, maintenance and administration, and on traffic policing in the three years ending 1979–80 at mid 1979–80 prices is estimated to be:

£ million
New construction930
Maintenance830
Administration250
Traffic policing160
2,170

The information which would enable an estimate to be made of expenditure on traffic cases in the courts is not available. The difference between the £2,170 million estimated expenditure shown above and the £2,000 million shown in the table as "Costs attributed" arises from £170 million of expenditure attributed to pedestrians and motor cyclists.

TAXATION REVENUE AND PUBLIC ROAD COSTS 1979–80—UNITED KINGDOM

Estimated taxation revenue

Revenue to cost ratios

Vehicle category

Vehicle numbers thousands

VED £ million

Fuel £ tax*million

Total £ million

Car tax

* £ million

Total (including car tax) £ million

Costs attributed £ million

Excluding car tax

Including car tax

Cars and taxis:
non-business14,8105401,3601,9003702,2708452·2:12·6:1
business2005057051408453252·2:12·6:1
Buses and coaches78390†9393651·4:11·4:1
Light vans (under 30 cwt. unladen)1,20670165235235802·9:12·9:1
Goods vehicles (over 30 cwt. unladen)5782354957307306551·1:11·1:1
All vehicles16,6721,0482,6153,6635104,1732,0001·8:12·1:1

* Fuel tax calculated on the basis that the tax changes made in the 12 June Budget applied throughout the 1979–80 financial year.

† Fuel tax rebate on stage services (£72 million) not deducted.

Energy

Petrol Supplies

59.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what plans he has to introduce petrol rationing; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Gentleman to the statement that I made in the House on Monday 11 June, in which I discussed the matter of rationing of oil supplies, which includes the rationing of petrol.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy, in the light of the current policy of major petrol suppliers which causes withdrawal of supplies to rural areas, if he will consult with the suppliers to ensure that a commitment is made by them to maintain the supplies of petrol and diesel fuel to such areas.

Rural areas have in many cases felt the shortage of petrol more than other areas because they have fewer filling stations, but the oil companies are conscious of the needs of rural areas and I am confident they will seek to keep them supplied on an equitable basis. The underlying shortfall in supplies of some 5 per cent. does, of course, mean that everyone must economise in the use of diesel fuel and petrol.

Royalty Oil

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he will authorise British Petroleum to refine and market royalty oil obtainable after the end of June instead of appointing the British National Oil Corporation as his agents for the disposal of the crude oil.

Government Departments (Energy Conservation)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what action has been taken by his Department to ensure that all Government Departments conserve energy; and with what success.

In response to the shortage of Iranian oil, all Government Departments, in common with all sections of the public sector, have been asked by my Department to make real and determined efforts to economise in their use of oil products. Arrangements have been made for Ministers in each Department to oversee these efforts, and for progress to be monitored. I shall be reporting to the House on the savings achieved in due course.The Government are committed to pursue a vigorous energy conservation policy, and the statement of my right hon. Friend on 7 June referred to our conviction that the Government and the public sector must give a sensible and firm lead on energy conservation. The Department continues to co-ordinate inter-departmental efforts in this field. The Property Services Agency (PSA), which has the responsibility for energy conservation measures in the Government civil estate and the Ministry of Defence estate, is already involved in a four-year programme of energy conservation measures; and has recently reported that in 1978–79, the first year of the programme, energy saving measures (including improved controls for heating systems, improved thermal insulation of buildings, hot water and steam pipe-work and draught-proofing of buildings) have resulted in an estimated annual saving to the value of £1·9 million.

Canvey Island-Thurrock (Security Precautions)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what progress has been made since the IRA bomb incident on Canvey Island earlier in 1979 to tighten security precautions at oil, gas and chemical installations in the Canvey Island-Thurrock area; and whether any new arrangements are to be tested.

Security measures at the oil and gas installations were reviewed following the bomb incident on 17 January and certain improvements are in hand.My Department is in close touch with both the British Gas Corporation and the oil companies.

Departmental Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

I refer the hon. Member to the written answer given today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

Coal Reserves

asked the Secretary of Slate for Energy if he will make a statement on the sufficiency of domestic and industrial reserves of coal, including power station reserves, to meet expected demand in the winter of 1979–80 in Scotland, England and Wales, respectively.

On present expectations, there should be sufficient coal to meet demand next winter in Scotland, England and Wales.

Employment

Departmental Organisation

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what discussions he has had with nationalised or State-controlled organisations or bodies for which his Department accepts ministerial responsibility, concerning the uncovering and thereafter the elimination of waste; if he welcomes detailed information thereon from the general public; and if, in due course, he will make a statement in the House.

My right hon. Friend is seeking to ensure that the promotion of efficiency and elimination of waste is actively pursued wherever he has responsibility, as part of the review outlined by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister in her answer to my hon. Friend earlier today. Any suggestions which come to him will be welcome and will of course be considered.

Fire Regulations

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many occupiers of premises have applied to the Health and Safety Executive for certification under the Fire Certificate (Special Premises) Regulation 1976; and, of these, how many applications have come from premises within the Bury and Radcliffe constituency.

The chairman of the Health and Safety Commission informs me that to date, 953 employers have applied in writing for certificates; an application has been received (for an amended certificate) from a factory situated within the Bury and Radcliffe constituency.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many certificates have been issued to premises which are covered by the Fire Certificate (Special Premises) Regulation 1976; and, of these, how many have been issued to premises within the Bury and Radcliffe constituency.

The chairman of the Health and Safety Commission informs me that to date, 80 certificates have been issued under the regulations; none has been issued to premises within the Bury and Radcliffe constituency.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many officials are employed by the Health and Safety Executive to investigate and issue certificates under the Fire Certificate (Special Premises) Regulation 1976; and of these, how many cover the North-West area.

The chairman of the Health and Safety Commission informs me that the work of issuing certificates is shared by a number of officers employed by the executive, but is done principally by about 27 inspectors in field consultant groups and by the mines inspectors. Eleven inspectors cover the North-West area, comprising four stationed at Manchester in a field consultant group and seven mines inspectors at Newcastle-under-Lyme, who combine these responsibilities for mines with their other work.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many large retail stores come under the Fire Certificate (Special Premises) Regulation 1976; how many have been inspected and issued with such a certificate; and, in view of the recent Woolworth store fire in Manchester, what proposals his Department has for increasing the number of inspections and certificates issued.

The chairman of the Health and Safety Commission informs me that no such sites are subject to the regulations. The executive has plans, currently under review, to recruit a number of additional staff for the certification of premises which are subject to the regulations.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people are employed in premises in the Bury and Radcliffe constituency that are covered by the Fire Certificate (Special Premises) Regulation 1979 and, of these, how many are protected by the certificate issued under such regulations.

The chairman of the Health and Safety Commission informs me that 1,400 people are employed in the one factory in the Bury and Radcliffe constituency which is covered by the regulations; the number employed on the five construction sites is not readily available. The existing certificate for the factory premises issued under earlier legislation continues in force; amendment has been requested.

Home Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many employers of home workers have been prosecuted under the Health and Safety at Work Act; and if the Health and Safety Executive has any plans for improving enforcement of the Act with respect to the working conditions of home workers.

I am informed by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that the number of employers of home workers prosecuted under the Health and Safety at Work &c., Act is not separately recorded. The commission intends shortly to consult interested parties on the proposal that the existing provisions of the Factories Act 1961 relating to home workers should be replaced by regulations permitting a more effective enforcement.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps have been taken to ensure that employers in specified trades return lists of home workers to their local authorities twice a year; and if he intends to take any action to extend the list of specified trades.

Employers are required by section 133 of the Factories Act 1961 to keep copies of lists sent to local authorities and inspectors may ask to see them during inspections. I do not intend to alter the list of specified trades in view of the review being carried out by the Health and Safety Commission.

Work Introduction Courses

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if the pilot schemes for work introduction courses in areas of high unemployment will now proceed;(2) in view of the cuts in the Manpower Services Commission budget, what recommendations of the recent training opportunities scheme review document will not now be implemented;(3) if he will publish the annual and weekly cost per trainee for each module of the youth opportunities programme during the last financial year and the average length of stay for each module.

Small Firms Employment Subsidy

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many applications, involving how many firms and jobs were (a) received and (b) approved for small firms employment subsidy in the Lambeth partnership area since the scheme was extended to inner city areas.

Hazardous Substances

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what applications for additional storage of hazardous chemicals and liquids on Canvey Island have been examined by the Health and Safety Executive since July 1978; what were the quantities involved in each case; and what advice has been given to the licensing authority;(2) what consultations have taken place between the Health and Safety Executive and the Port of London Authority since July 1978 concerning the safety of navigation on the Thames, particularly of ships carrying hazardous cargoes; what specific recommendations have been made; to what extent these have been implemented; and whether the local authorities most closely concerned have been kept informed;(3) what steps have been taken since 1 January to improve the safety of the hazardous installations in the Canvey Island-Thurrock area covered by the Health and Safety Executive's report published in June 1978, giving specific details in the case of each installation;(4) when the promised information about current legislation relating to liquefied gas terminals in the United States of America and the Netherlands and about research into the behaviour of liquefied gases which might have a bearing on the siting of such terminals will be sent to the hon. Member for Essex, South-East.

Race Relations Employment Advisory Group

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will continue to attend meetings of the Race Relations Employment Advisory Group.

Mobility Of Labour

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what changes are to be made to the Manpower Services Commission schemes to promote geographical mobility of labour in order to achieve financial savings.

A Employment Transfer Scheme

Under the employment transfer scheme people who are unemployed, or threatened with redundancy, can be given cash help to move to take up work beyond normal daily travelling distance of their homes.

(i) Local Labour Market Rules

At present two of the conditions for receiving assistance apply only to moves from places outside the assisted areas. These conditions are that there are
  • (a) no reasonable prospects of suitable employment in the home area; and
  • (b) no suitable unemployed registrants in the new area.
  • In future these local labour market rules will apply also to moves from places in the assisted areas.

    (ii) Disturbance Allowance

    At present disturbance allowance is payable to single workers without dependants who move from assisted areas. This allowance will, in future, be paid only for moves originating in special development areas where the destination of the move is of lower assisted area status (e.g. to a development area).

    (iii) Transfer Grants

    At present transfer grants towards the incidental expenses of moving home are paid to workers with dependants. There is a higher rate for all moves originating in assisted areas. In future the higher rate will be payable for moves originating in special development or development areas only if:
  • (a) the destination of the move is of lower assisted area status than its origin (e.g. in the case of a move from a special development area); or
  • (b) the applicant is a former textile or clothing worker, or is moving to take up a vacancy in certain skilled occupations in designated industrial sectors which has been unfilled for eight weeks or more.
  • The higher rate will no longer be payable in respect of any move originating in an intermediate area.

    (iv) Temporary Transfers

    Temporary transfers will no longer be eligible for assistance.

    B Key Workers Scheme

    Under this scheme employment transfer scheme type assistance is given where employers move key workers to new or expanding establishments in assisted areas. This scheme will be discontinued.

    C Job Search Scheme

    Under this scheme financial assistance is given to those who are unemployed to look for employment beyond normal daily travelling distance of their homes. At present, the two local labour market rules (in paragraph A above) apply only to people whose home is not in an assisted area. In future they will apply to everyone.

    Implementation Date

    The above changes will apply to applications received by MSC local offices after 30 June.

    Environment

    River Mersey

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what measures he proposes to take to clean up the River Mersey and to improve the quality of industrial effluent discharged into the river.

    None. This is a matter for the North-West water authority. Its longer-term proposals are described in two documents: (1) "Inland River Water Quality"—a consultation paper on suggested long-term objectives, November 1978 and (2) "Report on Planning" of February 1979.

    Government Buildings (Energy Conservation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the need to conserve energy, to what extent he has taken action to double glaze and roof insulate all Government buildings; and what progress has been made.

    Roof insulation is one of several cost-effective energy conservation measures being undertaken by the Property Services Agency. A programme of roof insulation, wall cavity filling and draught proofing in the Services married quarters is expected to be completed in 1980–81. On other Government buildings, roof insulation is being carried out as resources permit. Because of the high cost of double glazing, priority is being given to the other measures which are more cost effective. The matter is, however, kept under constant review.

    Touring Caravans

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many touring caravans are in use in Great Britain.

    There are no official statistics of the number of touring caravans in use Estimates—excluding motor caravans—made by manufacturers and voluntary organisations range from 325,000 to 600,000.

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to him today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

    Ministerial Accommodation (Refurbishing Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the total cost of refurbishing the accommodation provided for Ministers since 3 May; and whether he will publish a table showing the details for each Ministry.

    Total expenditure incurred in refurbishing accommodation for Ministers since 3 May is £26,886. This includes expenses on official residences. The details are:

    £
    Prime Minister1,736
    Chancellor of the Exchequer2,685
    Education and Science135
    Energy720
    Environment1,939
    Foreign and Commonwealth Office802
    Home Office20
    MAFF924
    Trade16,245
    Treasury1,425
    Welsh Office255

    Wildlife

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the Government intend to strengthen legislation to protect wildlife.

    Yes. It is our intention to introduce in this Session a Bill which, in broad terms, will seek to strengthen the protection afforded to wildlife and its habitat and to embrace our international obligations.

    European Community

    Council Of Ministers

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on the results of the meeting of Foreign Ministers of the Nine on political co-operation held on 18 June.

    The Foreign Ministers met on political co-operation on 18 June. They discussed the conference on security and co-operation in Europe, current problems in the Middle East, and South East Asia My right hon. and noble Friend briefed his colleagues on the present state of the five Western Powers' initiative on Namibia, and on recent developments affecting Rhodesia.In their examination of the prospects for the conference on security and co-operation in Europe review meeting to be held in Madrid in 1980, Ministers reaffirmed their wish to play a constructive role in conjunction with their allies and other friendly countries. They agreed that the conference on security and co-operation in Europe was a key element in the process of detente. Ministers also agreed to seek a better application of the Helsinki Final Act.Ministers of the Nine made the following statement on the Middle East:

    "The Nine have examined the situation in the Middle East.
    1. They recall, in accordance with their previous declarations, in particular those of 29 June 1977 and of 26 March 1979, that a just and lasting peace can be established only on the basis of a comprehensive settlement which should be based on Security Council resolutions 242 and 338 and on:
    • —the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force;
    • —the need for Israel to end the territorial occupation which it has maintained since the 1967 conflict;
    • —respect for the sovereignty, territorial integrity and independence of every State in the region and their right to live in peace within secure and recognised borders;
    • —recognition of the fact that, to establish a just and lasting peace, account will have to be taken of the legitimate rights of the Palestinians, including their right to a homeland.
    2. The Nine deplore any action or declaration which might stand in the way of the quest for peace. They consider, in particular, that certain attitudes and declarations of the Israeli government are such as to create obstacles in the search for a comprehensive settlement of this kind.
    Notably:
    • —Israel's ultimate claim to sovereignty over the occupied territories, which is incompatible with resolution 242, which laid down the principle of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by force;
    • —the policy of the establishment of settlements pursued by the Israeli Government in the occupied territories, which is illegal in international law.
    3. As regards the Lebanon, the Nine support its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity. They deplore all acts endangering the security of the population and hindering the restoration of the authoriy of the Government of the Lebanon throughout the whole of its territory and particularly in the south of the country. Gravely concerned at the difficulties which UNIFIL, to which some of the Nine contribute, is encountering in carrying out its mandate they appeal to all parties to respect the decisions of the Security Council.
    The above are the comments which the Nine wish to make at this moment.
    They reserve the right to return to all of these questions at a later date."

    Ministers of the Nine made the following statement on the problem of refugees from Indo-China:

    "The Ministers expressed their concern at the serious problems posed by the massive and continuously growing exodus of refugees from the Indo-China peninsula. They decided to approach the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees immediately to ask that an international conference should urgently be convened, under the aegis of the United Nations, with a mandate to study practical solutions to these problems with the parties concerned.
    They emphasised the importance of strengthening and sharing more equitably among the international community the efforts on behalf of the refugees which are at present being carried out by a limited number of countries. They expressed their intention of approaching in this conference with the desire, within the limits of what was possible for them, to contribute to the solution of this humanitarian problem, which concerns the whole international community.
    They agreed also to make a demarche on this subject, in all its aspects, to the government of Vietnam. They agreed at the same time to express their concern to other states in the region, in particular to the members of ASEAN with whom they opened a political dialogue in November last year."

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Diego Garcia

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what discussions with the Government of Mauritius have taken place over the past year on the issue of limiting the militarisation of the Indian Ocean and the future deployment of British naval forces from Diego Garcia.

    None. No British naval forces are stationed at Diego Garcia or elsewhere in the Indian Ocean.

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

    Angola

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will take a further initiative to secure the release of British subjects held in prison in Angola as former mercenaries.

    The Government will maintain a close interest in the plight of these men and continue to press for regular consular access which has not so far been forthcoming. However, I regret I cannot undertake to raise the question of their release at the present time.

    Northern Ireland

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what precise steps he is taking to uncover and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

    Planning Applications (Ballymena)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he will be in the position to permit local traders to proceed with their own plans in Ballymena.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18 June 1979], gave the following information:Planning applications in Ballymena by local traders are being processed in accordance with statutory procedures.

    Ahoghill

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when the Northern Ireland Department of the Environment will put into a proper state of repair the roadway, footpaths and street lighting in Church Street in the village of Ahoghill.

    I am informed that the carriageway, footpaths and street lighting in Church Street in the village of Ahoghill are at present in a generally satisfactory condition and that any problems which may arise will be dealt with in the course of normal maintenance. I shall see that any information which the hon. Gentleman cares to forward about specific defects is made available to those responsible for this work.

    National Finance

    Child Benefit

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the size of child benefit increases necessary to maintain equity in tax free income between taxpayers with and without children for each £10 increase in each of the personal allowances.

    The increase that would be necessary to child benefit to match an increase of £10 in the personal tax allowances of a married man would be £1·24 per year.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish figures showing the gross annual value of child benefit for families below the tax threshold compared with families paying tax at 25 per cent., at standard rate, and at each of the higher rate bands.

    The value of child benefit is the same to all persons—taxpayers, whatever their marginal rate, and non-taxpayers—namely, £4 per week.The increases in gross annual earnings required to produce a net gain of £4 per week of each of the rates specified are:

    Tax rate per cent.£
    25277
    30297
    40347
    45378
    50416
    55462
    60520

    Personal Taxation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what was the amount and percentage of weekly wages paid in income tax by an unskilled worker with a non-working wife and two children, on the national average unskilled manual wage prevailing in that year, after the Budget in each of the following years: 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978;(2)what was the amount and percentage of weekly wage paid in income tax by a skilled worker with a non-working wife and two children, on the national average skilled wage prevailing in that year, after the Budget in each of the following

    Married with two children under 11 yearsMarried, no children, both working
    Male unskilled workerMale unskilled workerSkilled male and female manual worker
    TaxPercentage of income paid in taxTaxPercentage of income paid in taxTaxPercentage of income paid in tax
    £££
    19683·2712·61·105·86·6218·1
    19694·1314·51·517·46·6816·8
    19714·7314·01·998·18·8018·1
    19724·8112·91·846·78·6315·7
    19736·3814·93·199·910·9917·5
    197511·3819·36·6114·521·1623·0
    197612·7318·87·8114·525·1623·5
    197712·9717·17·5312·624·2520·6
    197815·2516·79·2912·725·6219·2
    The weekly earnings used in the calculations are as follows:

    Male skilled workerMale unskilled workerFemale manual worker
    £££
    196825·2017·9011·30
    196927·6419·4712·11
    197132·9323·8415·80
    197236·5326·6818·30
    197341·8231·1921·16
    197557·6043·9734·19
    197666·2852·2340·61
    197773·1757·1744·31
    197883·0665·0050·03
    The average earnings are the average of the Department of Employement's estimates of the average gross weekly earnings, by level of skill, of full-time male manual workers in the engineering industry in June of each year.The average earnings figures used for manual female workers are the average earnings for full-time female manual workers, aged 18 and over in all industries, in October of each year.Figures for the married man with children are expressed on a percentage of income—including family allowance or child benefit—to allow, so far as possible, for the change from child tax allowances to tax free child benefits.

    lowing years: 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978;

    (3) what was the amount and percentages of joint weekly wage paid in income tax by a skilled worker on national average skilled wage prevailing in that year with a working wife earning the national average wage for women manual workers, after the Budget in each of the following years: 1968, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978.

    Travel-To-Work Costs (Tax Concession)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, from international sources of information available to him, he will publish a list of all European countries where some form of tax concession is granted for travel-to-work costs; and what is, in some convenient form, the approximate value of such concessions.

    Austria, Finland, Germany, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Sweden and Switzerland are known to give a measure of tax relief for the costs of travelling from home to work. No information is available about the costs of these reliefs.

    Tax Rebates

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total amount of tax rebate paid to private owner-occupiers for the last financial year.

    If the hon. Member is referring to the amount of tax relief in respect of mortgage interest, the estimated cost for 1978–79 was about £1,110 million.

    Religious Groups (Tax Exemptions)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will undertake an investigation and review of the tax-exempt status of certain religious groups and cults, such as the Unification Church organised under the leadership of the Reverend Sun Myung Moon.

    The Government have no plans at present for a general investigation of this kind. I cannot, of course, comment on the tax position of particular bodies.

    North Sea Revenues

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of North Sea revenue to date has been applied (a) to sustain current living in the United Kingdom and (b) to revitalising British industry; and whether he will consider the establishment of a separate account so that the proceeds from North Sea taxes do not become inextricably mixed with other revenue.

    By 31 March 1979, total revenue from the North Sea amounted to £936 million. It is not possible to hypothecate this sum retrospectively. I consider that the creation of a separate account for the administration of North Sea revenues would be of little practical value.

    Petrol Revenue Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will relate petrol revenue tax to the real price of crude oil instead of the market price expressed in money terms and assess the tax at the wellhead rather than landed in the United Kingdom.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated petrol revenue tax yield for the current year; and how much petrol revenue tax has been paid into the Treasury since North Sea oil first began to flow.

    Petrol (Taxation)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give in pence per gallon (a) the Excise duty on petrol and (b) the value added tax and express the total as a percentage of the purchase price of four-star petrol.

    The new rate of Excise duty on petrol is 8·1p a litre, equivalent to about 36·82p a gallon. The VAT element on a gallon of petrol depends on the price assumed. When the full effect of the Budget changes is taken into account, the pump price of four-star petrol is likely to range from £1·05 a gallon upwards. On the basis of £1·05, VAT at 15 per cent. will be 13·7p and the combined incidence of duty and VAT will be about 48·1 per cent.

    Derv (Taxation)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will express in pence per gallon the total tax on derv and the percentage it represents of the pump price, and give his estimate of the impact of the tax on commercial and industrial costs.

    The total tax on derv and its percentage of the pump price both depend on the price assumed. When the full effect of the Budget changes is taken into account the tax content of a gallon of derv selling at £105 at the pump will be 55·52p—about 41·82p Excise duty and 13·7p VAT. This represents 52·9 per cent. of the pump price. Most users of derv are businesses and are entitled to recover the VAT element.On the best estimate available the answer to the last part of the question is about 0·3 per cent.

    Co-Operative Enterprises

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list those bodies which have received a certificate under section 2(1) of the Industrial Common Ownership Act 1976; and which bodies have received certificates since 3 May.

    The Chief Registrar of Friendly Societies has issued certificates under section 2(1) of the Industrial Common Ownership Act 1976 in respect of the following bodies. No certificate has been issued between 3 May 1979 and the date of this reply.

    • Integrated Music Limited (Certificate since revoked).
    • York Whole food (Common Ownership) Limited.
    • Arjuna Limited.
    • Cleator Moor Casting and Engineering Co-operative Limited.
    • Drym Fabricators Limited.
    • Calvert's North Star Press Limited.
    • Common Wealth Plastics Limited.
    • New Manchester Review Limited.
    • Scottish Wholefood Collective Warehouse (Grassroots) Limited.
    • Common Wealth Coatings and Chemicals Limited.

    National Land Fund

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he treats expenditure from the National Land Fund as public expenditure.

    Yes. National Land Fund expenditure has been so treated by successive Governments for many years. We are considering the future of the land fund in the light of the recommendations made in the Third Report from the Expenditure Committee of Session 1977–78 and will take into account the recommendation made on this point.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer on what basis he estimates that there will be a reduction of £1½ million in the demands on the National Land Fund in the current year.

    The reduction in the provision made for expenditure out of the National Land Fund in 1979–80 from £5·5 million to £40 million followed a reappraisal of the likely calls on the fund that should be met this year, which took into account sums already committed and cases under consideration.

    Value Added Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the cost of exempting from, or zero rating for, value added tax, the installation of alternative central heating boilers as replacements for oil-fired ones, in pursuance of the policy of saving oil imports.

    I regret that information is not available from which to make an estimate, because it is not known how many central heating systems would need to be replaced or at what cost.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report his estimate of the impact of his increase in value added tax and petrol duty on a married couple where the husband earns £2,000, £2,500, £3,000, £3,500, £4,000, £4,500, £5,000, £5,500, £6,000, £6,500, £7,000, £7,500, £8,000, £8,500, £9,000, £9,500 and £10,000 a year, respectively, on the same basis as his estimates, Official Report, 12 June, column 261.

    , pursuant to the reply [Official Report, 18 June 1979], gave the following answer:The information requested is as follows:

    Cost of indirect tax measures (£ per week)
    Gross pay (£ per year)
    2,0001·29
    2,5001·54
    3,0001·77
    3,5001·99
    4,0002·22
    4,5002·45
    5,0002·67
    5,5002·90
    6,0003·12
    6,5003·35
    7,0003·58
    7,5003·82
    8,0004·07
    8,5004·32
    9,0004·57
    9,5004·82
    10,0005·07

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list in the Official Report those categories of items subject to the 15 per cent. value added tax rate.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 19 June 1979], gave the following answer:All supplies of goods and services which are not zero rated or exempt are subject to value added tax at 15 per cent. In effect, about half of all consumer expenditure is not chargeable with value added tax. Zero rating and exemption provide reliefs which include such important items as most food, heating and lighting, house prices and rents, fares on public transport, and children's clothing.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what will be the cost to the Exchequer in revenue forgone by allowing all value added taxpayers exemption on the first part of their turnover to the level at which value added tax becomes payable.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 19 June 1979], gave the following answer:Up to about £800 million, depending on the assumptions taken.

    Common Agricultural Policy

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action he is taking in response to the European Court of Auditors recent report on the widespread frauds within the common agricultural policy.

    As is shown by the report of the European Court of Auditors on the implementation of the 1977 budget of the European Communities, to which I assume the hon. Lady is referring, in 1977 the sums involved in irregularities under the EAGGF guarantee section and reported by member States to the Commission totalled approximately 8·5 million units of account as compared with total expenditure of nearly 8,000 million units of account. It has been, and remains, the policy of Her Majesty's Government to co-operate with the Commission and other member States in every way possible to eradicate fraud, to maximise recovery of money illegally paid, and to try to block such loopholes as exist in regulations which give rise to undesirable opportunities for exploitation.

    European Community (Budget System)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will set a deadline for reform of the European Economic Community budget system.

    As I told the hon. Member on 11 June, Her Majesty's Government will urge that the next European Council should take the decisions needed to achieve a lasting and effective correction of the United Kingdom's inequitable and unsustainable net budget contribution. My right hon. Friend the Prime Minister will be suggesting at the European Council later this week that the Commission should be asked to bring forward proposals to deal with the problem in time for the Council to decide on the necessary remedial measures at its next meeting in November.

    Community Nursing Staff (Mileage Allowances)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will take steps to exempt from income tax the mileage allowances for community nursing staff who use their own cars on visiting patients.

    Unemployment And Inflation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish the most up-to-date Treasury forecasts of the rate of (a) unemployment and (b) inflation; and if he will make a statement.

    Investment Currency Premium

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether United Kingdom residents who have in the past bought private property abroad will still be allowed the benefit of the investment currency premium on the sale of that property.

    As my right hon. Friend announced in his Budget Statement on 12 June, United Kingdom residents may now, with permission, use official exchange up to a limit of £100,000 per calendar year for private property purposes. In consequence, the sale proceeds of existing properties will no longer be eligible for the investment currency premium; and it will no longer be possible to allow emigrants from the United Kingdom who have previously bought a property through the premium to reverse the transaction once they have emigrated. The Bank of England has issued a notice to banks and others which, inter alia, explains how applications now in the pipeline will be handled.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of public expenditure, as defined before Cmnd. 6721, as a percentage of gross domestic product at factor cost in the financial years 1957–58, 1970–71, 1973–74, 1976–77, 1977–78 and 1978–79; and what is his forecast of the corresponding percentage for the financial year 1979–80 following the Budget changes.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18 June 1979], gave the following answer:The definition of public expenditure in use till late in 1976 was broader than that now in use Moreover, in expressing public expenditure as a ratio to gross domestic product the latter is now normally measured at market prices rather than at factor cost for consistency with the measurement of public expenditure Estimates to 1978–79 on the old basis requested are provided in the following table. The ratio is not expected to change much in 1979–80: the exclusion of indirect tax from the denominator tends to raise it.

    PUBLIC EXPENDITURE AS DEFINED IN CMND. 6393 OF FEBRUARY 1976
    As a percentage of gross domestic product at factor cost
    1957–5841
    1970–7151½
    1973–7452½
    1976–7757½
    1977–7853½
    1978–79 (estimated)54½

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given him today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

    Income Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many persons living in Carlisle will be taken out of the income tax bracket as a result of his Budget proposals.

    , pursuant to his reply [Official Report, 18 June 1979], gave the following answer:I regret that the information is not available.

    Finance Bill

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the Finance Bill will be published.

    Trade

    Manufactured Goods

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the volume increase in exports and imports of manufactured goods in 1976 over 1975, 1977 over 1976, 1978 over 1977 and the latest four months for which figures are available over the comparable four months of the previous year.

    Following is the information:

    VOLUME OF UNTIED KINGDOM TRADE IN MANUFACTURED GOODS
    (Percentage change on a year earlier)
    ExportsImports
    1976+9+9½
    1977+8½+10
    1978+2+13
    January-April 1979-7+11
    Manufactured goods are defined as Sections 5–8 of SITC (Rev. 2).

    Note: The trade figures for the first four months of 1979 have been distorted by disruptions to the flow of information on which they are based and by the effect of the road haulage dispute. The distortions have reduced both exports and imports over this period; thus, the percentage changes given above for the January-April period are lower than what they otherwise would have been. Details of the distortions were given in the press notice on the overseas trade figures for May, issued on 19 June.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the ratio of the increase in manufactured export prices over the period 1952 to 1978 to the corresponding increase in domestic wholesale prices for each of the eight largest manufacturing countries.

    The information requested is given for the latest period for which full information is available. However, as methods of defining and calculating export unit value and wholesale price indices differ within and

    COMPARISONS OF MANUFACTURED EXPORT UNIT VALUE AND WHOLESALE PRICE INDICES
    CountryUVI 1978*/UVI 195§WPI 1978†/WPI 195§(a)/(b)
    (a)(b)
    Belgium/Luxembourg‡1·401·76§0·80§
    France3·292·741·20
    Germany1·351·620·83
    Italy‡2·513·540·71
    Japan‡1·321·920·69
    Netherlands≑1·602·020·79
    United Kingdom4·324·271·01
    United States‡2·592·191·18
    * Export unit values for manufactured goods.
    † Wholesale price indices are subject to variable coverage.
    ‡ 1952 to 1977.
    § Wholesale price index for Belgium alone.
    ≑ 1953 to 1977.
    Sources:
    United Kingdom—Department of Trade estimates.
    Other countries—IMF International Financial Statistics May 1977, May 1978, June 1979.
    United Nations Statistical Yearbook 1962.
    United Nations Monthly Bulletin March 1978.

    Overseas Visitors (Petrol Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what estimate he has made of the annual number of visitors to the United Kingdom who either hire or bring their own cars and of the retail value of the petrol they buy.

    It is estimated that about 0·6 million cars accompanied foreign visitors to the United Kingdom on the sea routes from Western Europe, excluding the Irish Republic, in 1978. The other information requested is not available.

    Merchant Ships (Hazardous Cargoes)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the number of ships involved in accidents on the river Thames and estuary in each of the years 1976, 1977 and 1978, showing separately the number of cases where it was thought necessary to investigate, to call for a report or to conduct an inquiry under the Merchant Shipping Act; and in how many such cases ships were carrying cargoes of a hazardous or pollutant nature.

    between countries, for example in composition, the figures are not wholly comparable. The group of the eight largest exporters of manufactures is based on information for 1977.

    The numbers of accidents reported to the Port of London Authority, involving vessels of all kinds, including pleasure craft, in the area of the river Thames and estuary within the authority's jurisdiction, were:

    197619771978
    128137192
    of which211428
    vessels were carrying hazardous or pollutant cargoes.All reported accidents were investigated by the Port of London Authority. Additionally, under the Merchant Shipping Act, my Department investigated or called for reports in 17 (1976) and 24 (1977) of these cases, including one preliminary inquiry; the corresponding departmental figure for the year 1978 is not yet readily available and cannot be produced at present without disproportionate cost.

    Aviation Security Levy

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will give an indication of the rate of aviation security levy for 1980–81.

    Present indications are that the levy rate for 1980–81 will be about £1·10. The rate will be fixed towards the end of the year when draft regulations are laid before Parliament. Full figures for the first year are not yet available, but it is estimated that a surplus will be carried forward from 1978–79, when the levy was 80p, and a deficit from the current year, for which the levy is 85p. The levy rates which would have precisely covered the expenditure in each year are estimated to be 76p and 93p respectively, an increase of 22 per cent. between 1978–79 and 1979–80.

    Director General Of Fair Trading (Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade when he intends to publish the report of the Director General of Fair Trading for the year 1978.

    The fifth annual report by the Director General of Fair Trading is being published today. It covers the period 1 January 1978 to 31 December 1978. Copies of the report have been laid before Parliament.

    Wales

    Primary And Secondary School Places

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many new primary and secondary school places were brought into use in Wales in 1978.

    Co-Operative Enterprises

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many applications have been received under the Urban aid programme from organisations seeking to establish projects which have as one or their sole objective the provision of advice to, and the promotion of, co-operative and common ownership enterprises.

    Seven such applications have been received during the last two years. Five were approved for grant aid.

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given to him today by the Prime Minister.

    Manpower Services Commission

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps he proposes taking to strengthen the work of the Manpower Services Commission in Wales.

    I shall be reviewing the level and balance of the commission's work in Wales.

    Roads (Ceredigion)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if his Department plans to upgrade any of the Ceredigion roads during the next two years; and it he will make a statement.

    A number of trunk road improvements in Ceredigion are being prepared and I expect some of these to be started in the next two years.

    A44 (Eisteddfa Gurig-Aberystwyth)

    asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he has any plans to improve the A44 between Eisteddfa Gurig and Aberstwyth during the next three years; and if he will make a statement.

    A number of improvements have been carried out to the A44 within Ceredigion in recent years. Three are currently under construction. Further schemes at Goginan and Capel Bangor are planned; the timing will depend upon availability of funds.

    Social Services

    Special Hospitals

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the man aged 66 years at Moss Side Hospital who had been waiting for eight years and four months on 30 November 1978 for a place at the Royal Eastern Counties Hospital is still waiting; if so, why; and what action is being taken to find him a place.

    The man is still waiting but it is expected that a place will become available for him at Bridge hospital, Witham within the next few weeks. The delay in securing this transfer, which I much regret, has been because the local hospital has had to operate a restricted admission policy to reduce overcrowding.

    Liverpool Teaching Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will carry out an investigation into the £180,000 repair bill occasioned by defects in the new Liverpool teaching hospital, Edge Hill, the cost of which will have to be met by the Liverpool area health authority.

    I understand that the main items of expenditure are for strengthening the electrical supply to and within the hospital to meet peak demand and for modification of dirty linen lifts to prevent over loading Other sums relate to changes to accommodate new developments and requirements in post mortem rooms, laboratories and theatres One item is for replacement of incinerators provided in the first phase of the hospital some years ago.Some extra work is inevitable in all large hospital building projects to take into account interim developments in standards of provision and other requirements, and I do not see the need for further inquiry in this instance.

    Blind Persons (Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what his proposals are for getting rid of the means test in respect of allowances for blind people; and if he will make a statement.

    I understand that my hon. Friend has received representations from a blind couple in his constituency, and I should be glad to consider these if he will let me have details.

    Area Health Authorities (Staff Levels)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what evidence he has of increases in staff levels of area health authorities for which finance has not been made available in their budgets.

    The Department does not collect such information. It fixes the cash limits of regional health authorities in England and it is regional health authorities who fix the cash limits of area health authorities. All health authorities are expected to plan to contain their expenditure within their total cash limit with in this total, however, they are free to decide how much to spend on staff as opposed to other types of expenditure.

    Family Incomes

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will update the reply given to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North, Official Report, 30 November 1978, c. 298, taking into account increases in rent, rates and work expenses, as well as changes in child benefit and child tax allowances and the Budget proposals, and including rates paid for water and sewerage.

    Vietnamese Immigrants (Personal Possessions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what extent the personal possessions in money, gold, jewellery, etc. brought in by the Vietnamese immigrants will be taken into account when assessing claims for social security benefits.

    In assessing supplementary benefit no account is normally taken of personal possessions; but regard may be had to articles of value if these are held for the purpose of investment.

    Supplementary Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will set out the number of recipients of supplementary benefit at the last date for which figures are available; and whether he will also set out the number of dependants.

    The latest available information relates to 1977 and 1978 and is as follows:

    Great Britain (Thousands)
    19771978
    Beneficiaries2,9912,929
    Dependants1,767
    The figure for 1978 is provisional and the figure for dependants is not yet available.

    Hospital Waiting Lists

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients were awaiting admissions to National Health Service hospitals in England and in Great Britain at the latest date for which figures are available; how many of these patients in England had conditions classified as urgent; and what proportions had to wait for over one month for treatment.

    On 30 September 1978 there were 628,361 patients awaiting admission to National Health Service hospitals for in-patient treatment in England. At the same date, the figure for Scotland was 62,239 and for Wales was 34,357. In England, 44,118 of the patients waiting had conditions which were classified as urgent and of these 29,147 had waited for more than one month.

    Health Centre, Liverpool

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, and when, it is intended to proceed with the construction

    HospitalTypeAverage number of available beds 1978Percentage occupancy rate 1978
    Queen Mary's, RoehamptonAcute41882·4
    PutneyAcute8878·9
    St. John's.Long stay24289·0
    Westmoor HouseGeriatric1984·4
    St. James', BalhamAcute46576·8
    St. George's, S.W.1.Acute25377·6
    St. George's, S.W.17.Acute29485·6
    Atkinson Morley'sNeurology and neurosurgery15778·8
    South London Hospital for Women and ChildrenAcute20269·0
    Queen Elizabeth HouseMental Handicap3064·4
    BolingbrokeAcute9957·0
    SpringfieldMental Illness1,14189·9
    St. Benedict'sLong stay19192·8
    Rame HouseLong stay3380·3
    Birchlands Jewish HospitalLong stay3473·8
    St HelierAcute53784·3
    SuttonLong stay28871·2
    WilsonAcute5870·8
    NelsonAcute6166·6
    CumberlandLong stay5272·7
    WimbledonMainly acute5677·7
    Carshalton War MemorialAcute4370·5
    Wandle ValleyGeriatric10387·4
    CheamGeriatric7292·6
    Queen Mary's Hospital for Children, CarshaltonPaediatric22960·7
    Mental handicap33793·8
    St. Ebba'sMental handicap62198·5
    The TurretMental handicap2094·1
    SouthsideMental handicap8294·4
    BrooklandsMental handicap1699·4
    Ellen TerryMental handicap2590·4
    Osborne HouseMental handicap5992·8
    HendersonMental illness4366·7
    HospitalTypeAverage number of available beds 1978Percentage occupancy rate 1978
    Queen Mary's, RoehamptonAcute41882·4
    PutneyAcute8878·9
    St. John's.Long stay24289·0
    Westmoor HouseGeriatric1984·4
    St. James', BalhamAcute46576·8
    St. George's, S.W.1.Acute25377·6
    St. George's, S.W.17.Acute29485·6
    Atkinson Morley'sNeurology and neurosurgery15778·8
    South London Hospital for Women and ChildrenAcute20269·0
    Queen Elizabeth HouseMental Handicap3064·4
    BolingbrokeAcute9957·0
    SpringfieldMental Illness1,14189·9
    St. Benedict'sLong stay19192·8
    Rame HouseLong stay3380·3
    Birchlands Jewish HospitalLong stay3473·8
    St HelierAcute53784·3
    SuttonLong stay28871·2
    WilsonAcute5870·8
    NelsonAcute6166·6
    CumberlandLong stay5272·7
    WimbledonMainly acute5677·7
    Carshalton War MemorialAcute4370·5
    Wandle ValleyGeriatric10387·4
    CheamGeriatric7292·6
    Queen Mary's Hospital for Children, CarshaltonPaediatric22960·7
    Mental handicap33793·8
    St. Ebba'sMental handicap62198·5
    The TurretMental handicap2094·1
    SouthsideMental handicap8294·4
    BrooklandsMental handicap1699·4
    Ellen TerryMental handicap2590·4
    Osborne HouseMental handicap5992·8
    HendersonMental illness4366·7

    Family Income Supplement

    of a health centre on the allocated site at Waver tree Road, Liverpool 7.

    The Liverpool area health authority (teaching) has told my right hon. Friend that the site is too small to accommodate a conventional single storey health centre and they are considering, in conjunction with the Mersey regional health authority, whether a two storey development would be practicable Subject to the outcome of this consideration, the authority hope to be able to proceed with planning and construction.

    Hospitals (Bed Occupancy)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the hospitals and the bed occupancy in the Wandsworth, Merton and Sutton area health authority.

    The information is as follows:number of families currently in receipt of family income supplement in (

    a) Dundee, ( b) the Tayside region, ( c) Scotland and ( d) Great Britain.

    I regret that the information requested is not available for Dundee and the Tayside region: the smallest areas for which analysis of family income supplement (FIS) statistics are available are the social security administrative regions. It is estimated that, at the end of December 1978, there were 9,900 families in Scotland and 81,000 families in Great Britain in receipt of FIS. These are the most recent figures currently available. They are derived from a routine sample survey and are, therefore, subject to statistical error.

    St George's Hospital, Tooting

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the properties owned in May bury Street, Tooting, London S.W.17, by the St. George's hospital, Tooting; and how many of these properties are now empty.

    Thirty-six maisonettes and six houses in Maybury Street are vested in the Secretary of State for Social Services, of which 13 maisonettes and one house are unoccupied. Plans are in hand for the eventual use of Maybury Street for the St. George's hospital redevelopment. Meanwhile part of Maybury Street is to be demolished for temporary car parking, as the unoccupied properties are unfit for habitation and renovation would be un-economic. There are also four empty maisonettes on the coiner of Maybury Street, but facing Blackshaw Road, which are on offer to the local residents' association on a short term lease for use as a social centre and youth club.

    Hospitals (Patient Costs)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the weekly cost of keeping a patient in a National Health Service hospital.

    The weekly cost varies widely in different types of hospital but the average for all types in 1977–78 was about £165. More recent information has not yet been received.

    St George's Hospital, Hyde Park (Closure)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) when he expected to approve the closure of St. George's hospital, Hyde Park, London S.W.;

    (2) what is the present position regarding the building of the new St. George's hospital, Tooting, London S.W.17, and when this work will be completed.

    I shall let the hon. Member have a full reply as soon as possible.

    Pay Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will agree to the Health Service Board's current proposal to remove a further 566 pay beds from National Health Service hospitals.

    Under the previous Government's legislation I am required to implement any proposals put to me by the Health Services Board for the withdrawal of pay beds. The only proposals I have before me at present are those for the withdrawal of 49 pay beds in National Health Service hospitals, which will be implemented with effect from 30 June 1979.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the number of pay beds available in each of the last nine years.

    The information is as follows:

    Number of authorised pay beds as at 31 December (England)
    19704,353
    19714,456
    19724,496
    19734,569
    19744,567
    19754,150
    19764,150
    19773,213
    19782,819
    1979 (as at 20 June)2,666

    Mobility Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to complete the phasing in of mobility allowance.

    I am pleased to be able to tell my hon. Friend that we intend to complete the phasing in of the mobility allowance with just one further phase this autumn, so that everybody over five and under 65 at the payment date will then be included in the scheme. I have taken this step because I consider it essential to remove any doubts or uncertainties which may be causing anxiety amongst disabled people approaching the age of 65.I shall lay the necessary commencement order before the House shortly and it will cover all those men and women born on or after 29 November 1914 who are not in the scheme at present. They will be able to claim the allowance from 5 September 1979, with payment from 28 November 1979.A period has been allowed before claims are accepted to enable the mobility allowance unit at Blackpool to complete the handling of some 18,000 claims now being processed, to prepare for the up-rating of the allowance in November and to prepare for the large number of claims expected.I should emphasise that having one last phase instead of two will double the number of claims received and some claims will not be processed in time for payment at the appointed date. I ask people to be patient; arrears will be paid back to 28 November, and our action does mean that 63 and 64 year-olds are brought into the scheme earlier than would otherwise have been possible.

    Chiropody

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many chiropodists are employed by the National Health Service in the Ince constituency; and how this figure, expressed as a percentage, compares with the average for the North-West and nationally.

    The information requested in the first part of the question is not available.

    Community Nursing Staff (Mileage Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to revise community nursing staff mileage allowances for those nurses who use then own cars to attend patients.

    I refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Brighouse and Spenborough (Mr. Waller) on 18 June.

    Chemists' Shops

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many chemists' shops have closed in the last 10 years in each of the regions.

    Figures are not available for health regions prior to 1975 From 1 January 1975 to 31 December 1978 the net reduction in each region in the number of pharmacies on NHS, pharmaceutical lists was as follows:—

    Northern49
    Yorkshire51
    Trent39
    East Anglian11
    N.W. Thames10
    N.E. Thames26
    S.E. Thames45
    S. W. Thames21
    Wessex41
    Oxford2
    South-Western66
    West Midland38
    Mersey77
    North-Western102

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to him today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. As the Gracious Speech on 15 May indicated, ways will be sought to simplify the operations of the social security system.—[Vol. 967, c. 51.]

    Scottish Disablement Income Group

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what reply he has sent to the Scottish Disablement Income Group concerning the possible introduction of a ne wallowance reflecting the true cost of living of the disabled.

    The Scottish Disablement Income Group has written to me on a number of points. I shall send copy of my reply to the hon. Member.

    Gloucester Royal Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the hon. Member for Stroud may expect to receive a reply to his letter of 22 January about the waiting time at the ear, nose and throat department at the Gloucester Royal hospital.

    Lower Incomes

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will update tables P1, P2, P3, P4, P5, P6, P7, P8, P9, P10, and P11 of the Royal Commission on the distribution of income and wealth, lower incomes report, Cmnd. 7175;(2) if he will publish a table similar to table P11 in Cmnd. 7175 giving data on a two and four child family.

    I regret this information is not available and could not be provided withtout disproportionate cost.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Glasshouse Heating

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will introduce a subsidy for oil used for heating glasshouses similar to that introduced following the oil price increases of 1973.

    No. The subsidy paid in 1974 was introduced as a temporary measure in quite different circumstances.

    Milk

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to prevent the marketing of surplus milk from EEC countries in Great Britain in such quantities as would destroy the milk industry of the United Kingdom.

    My right hon. Friend's proposal for a 5 per cent. devaluation of the green pound should help to improve the competitive position of the milk industry in the United Kingdom, and the Government will continue to ensure that imported milk has to conform with the standards of hygiene we regard as being necessary.

    Common Agricultural Policy

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what proposals he will put forward to the EEC Council of Ministers so as to ensure that full-time farmers in Anglesey and the United Kingdom are not penalised in favour of part-time farmers in other EEC countries;(2) if he will take steps to protect United Kingdom beef producers from unfair competition from other producers in EEC countries; and if he will make a statement;(3) what are his proposals for devaluing the green pound; over what period and by how much; and if he will make a statement.

    The Government are committed to devalue the green pound in order to enable United Kingdom producers to compete on level terms with those in the rest of the Community. I said on 15 June [Vol. 968, c. 778] that I should be asking the Council to agree to a devaluation in the green pound of 5 per cent. with an additional 5 per cent. for pigmeat.

    Dog Licence Fee

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he has yet considered raising the price of the dog licence; and, if so, what was his conclusion.

    Scottish Dairy Herds

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action he proposes to remove the threat of discrimination against dairy herds in Scotland, which are significantly larger than the EEC average herd size, implicit in the co-responsibility levy presently proposed by the Commission.

    My right hon. Friend has made it clear to the Council of Ministers that the Government stand by the commitment in their election manifesto to resist discriminatory proposals such as those which the Commission has put forward on the co-responsibility levy.

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what precise steps he is taking to uncover, and thereafter to eliminate, waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister today.

    European Community (Cow Slaughter Scheme)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action lie is taking to seek to curtail the large-scale frauds being conducted within the European Economic Community cow slaughter scheme.

    No substantiated evidence has been received so far to suggest that large-scale fraud is taking place. I would always take immediate action on any substantiated evidence of any frauds being conducted within our schemes. Any evidence provided will be investigated immediately.

    Monetary Compensatory Amounts

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he plans to seek to change the method of calculating monetary compensatory amounts within the EEC; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend will seek improvements in the method of calculating monetary compensatory amounts whenever the opportunity arises.

    Scotland

    Canniesburn Hospital, Bearsden

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of persons awaiting admission to Canniesburn hospital, Bearsden, Glasgow, and the number of such persons who have indicated they wish a pay bed.

    There were 4,403 persons awaiting admission to Canniesburn hospital, Bearsden, in March 1979, none of whom was awaiting admission to pay beds.

    Schools (Integration)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has been approached by the Educational Institute of Scotland asking him to integrate denominational and non-denominational schools as agreed at its recent conference: and if he will make a statement

    My right hon. Friend has had no approach from the Educational Institute of Scotland on this matter. He does not contemplate any action to change the statutory provisions relating to denominational education without full consultation with the religious and educational bodies concerned.

    Housing Co-Operatives

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made in the development of housing co-operatives by local authorities and housing associations in Scotland since April 1978.

    The Scottish Special Housing Association is establishing two housing co-operatives in Glasgow, and Glasgow district council, which already has a scheme at Summerston, hopes to set up others. Interest in co-operatives has been shown by Clackmannan and West Lothian district councils but proposals there are still at an early and indefinite stage. No new scheme has been launched since April 1978.

    Regional Education Departments

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if there are any functions which education departments of regional councils are responsible for which were not the responsibility of education departments prior to local government reorganisation.

    The main duties placed on local authority education departments since local government reorganisation are statutory responsibility for the careers service under the Employment and Training Act 1973, and for the provision of education for severely mentally handicapped children under the Education (Mentally Handicapped Childdren) (Scotland) Act 1974. They also became responsible in May 1975 for the appointment and administration of school and college councils under the Local Goverenment (Scotland) Act 1973.

    Industry Act Assistance

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a list of the firms in Dundee which have been assisted under sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act 1972 since 1974, specifying the amount received by each firm and for what purpose.

    Lists of individual firms receiving selective assistance are published quarterly in Trade and Industry.Up to 31 March 1979, the following offers had been made under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 for expansion, modernisation and rationalisation to companies in the Dundee area:

    £
    Timex Corporation79,200
    Caird (Dundee) Ltd.167,600
    Polytape Ltd.270,000
    Synthetic Fabrics (Scotland) Ltd.135,000
    Veeder Root Ltd.65,095
    Tayside Marine Services Ltd.90,000
    Robert Kellie & Son Ltd.49,000
    Ross & Hillard Ltd.50,000
    Whittaker Fabrics (Dundee) Ltd.385,000
    W. M. Watson (Dundee) Ltd.5,875
    South Mills (Rayon) Ltd.5,400
    Andrew Valentine Holdings Ltd.37,000
    Munro Petrosea Ltd.22,000
    Crompton Parkinson Ltd.280,000
    Sidlaw Industries Ltd.594,000
    Whyte & Edward Diecasting Ltd.10,500
    Tay Valley Patisserie5,750
    Scott & Fyfe Ltd.56,000
    Francis Stevenson & Sons Ltd.16,215
    H & A Scott Ltd.31,500
    Nasbrit Ltd.20,900
    Tay Valley Joinery Ltd.100,000
    Rautomead Ltd.11,025
    NCR & Co. Ltd.58,550
    Offers were made under section 8 to:
    Delta Capillary Products103,770
    Ben's Metals (Dundee) Ltd.29,020
    Hamilton Carhartt Ltd.87,012

    Infant Mortality

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the infant mortality rate per 1,000 live births in Dundee.

    The infant mortality rate per 1,000 live births in Dundee city district in 1978 was 11·7.

    Expectation of life at birth in years
    Life Table YearsTayside RegionScotland
    MaleFemaleMaleFemale
    194863·567·5
    1975 to 197769·274·467·974·4

    Tuberculosis

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the latest available figure for the number of people in

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the infant mortality rate per 1,000 live births in (a) Scotland, (b) England and Wales, (c) Japan, (d) Canada, (e) Sweden, (f) the United States of America, and (g) each of the EEC member countries.

    The infant mortality rate in Scotland in 1978 was 12·9 per 1,000 live births. The rates in the table below—except where shown otherwise—relate to 1977, being the latest year for which figures are generally available. Some of the data are provisional and coverage may vary from country to country because of differences in definition, etc.

    Infant Mortality Rates per 1,000 Live Births
    CountryRate Per cent.
    Scotland16·1
    England and Wales13·7
    Japan8·9
    Canada (1975)14·3
    Sweden8·0
    United States of America14·0
    United Kingdom14·0
    Belgium14·0
    Denmark8·9
    France11·4
    Federal Republic of Germany15·5
    Irish Republic15·7
    Italy17·6
    Luxembourg10·6
    Netherlands9·5

    Life Expectancy

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the life expectancy at birth in (a) Tayside and (b) Scotland for men and women; and how these figures compare with the 1948 figures.

    The information available is given in the table below; data for the Tayside region are not available for 1948.Scotland who died of tuberculosis; and how this compares with the 1948 figure.

    The number of deaths from tuberculosis in Scotland in 1978 was 133; the comparable figure for 1948 was 3,901.

    National Health Service

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total identifiable amount of public expenditure on the National Health Service in Scotland in 1978–79; and what is the value of that public expenditure expressed at November 1974 price levels.

    The provisional total identifiable amount of public expenditure on the National Health Service in Scotland in 1978–79 was £868·7 million. The value of that expenditure expressed at November 1974 price levels was £526·5 million.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the amount of under spending on health expenditure in Scotland in each of the years from 1974 onwards.

    The under spending on health expenditure in Scotland in each of the years from 1974–75 onwards was:

    £'000Per cent.
    1974–754200·1
    1975–767,3361·2
    1976–7715,9122·3
    1977–7816,4332·1
    1978–79 (provisional)3,0000·3

    Private Tenants (House Purchase)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if the Government's proposed new housing legislation for Scotland will give the tenants of private landlords the statutory right to buy their homes.

    Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the amount spent on education provision per head of population by Dundee corporation in 1973.

    The current expenditure exclusive of loan charges was £61 at November 1973 prices.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the current amount spent on education provision per head of population by the Tayside region expressed at 1973 prices.

    The current expenditure, exclusive of loan charges, for 1977–78 was £53 at November 1973 prices.

    School Meals

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many children attended schools in the Tayside region in September 1978; what percentage took school meals; and what percentage of the total number taking school meals had free dinners.

    The main school meals census is taken on a day in January each year 66,325 pupils attended Tayside schools on the day of the 1979 census 46 per cent. of these had a school meal of which 30 per cent. were free.

    Oil Platform Construction Yards

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the future use of the oil platform construction yards at Ardyne Point and Portavadie in Argyll.

    The future use of the oil platform yard at Ardyne Point is a matter for the developer. Possible uses for the Government-owned Portavadie yard have been examined by professional consultants. Once the evaluation of their report has been completed a decision will be made on the future of the yard.

    Elderly Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what progress has been made over publishing a Scottish Office supplement to the discussion document "A Happier Old Age" produced by the Department of Health and Social Security in 1978

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will initiate a review concerning the condition of elderly people in Scotland.

    In 1975 the Scottish Health Service planning council and the Advisory Council on Social Work set up a programme planning group to prepare a report on the care of the elderly in Scotland. It is expected that the group's report will shortly be submitted by the two councils to my right hon. Friend who will be glad to consider their recommendations.

    Nursery Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland to what extent Tayside

    TAYSIDE REGION: NURSERY EDUCATION BUILDING PROGRAMME
    Value of starts in 18 months to 31 March 1977Expenditure in year to 31 March 1978Expenditure in year to 31 March 1979
    (a)(b)(c)(d)(e)(f)
    AllocationAmount taken upAllocationAmount taken upAllocationAmount taken up
    504264138125See note 2 below72
    Notes:
    1. Before the financial year 1977–78 allocations were in terms of the value of work to be started in the periods to which they related: from 1977–78 they have been in terms of expenditure to be incurred in financial years. Part of the expenditure in 1977–78 and 1978–79 therefore relates to projects started previously.
    2. From 1978–79 allocations have been issued in the form of a single figure to cover capital expenditure on all school and further education building; and separate allocations have not been made for nursery education building.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list regional authorities which have applied for grants for nursery education projects under the urban aid programme in the last year.

    One authority, Strathclyde, four of whose projects have been approved and eight are under consideration.

    Departmental Organisation

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what precise steps he is taking to uncover and thereafter to eliminate waste in the nationwide organisation of his Department for which he is ultimately responsible; and if, in due course, he will seek to make a statement in the House thereon.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to him today by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister.

    Nuclear Dumping

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, further to the reply to the question of the hon. Member for South Ayrshire of 13 June, he will indicate now when he expects to announce the date and place of the public inquiry into the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority appeal against Kyle and Carrick district council's decision.

    region has taken up the funds made available by the Scottish Education Department for the provision of nursery education in the past three years.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, further to his reply to the question of the hon. Member for South Ayrshire on 13 June, he will extend the terms of reference of the public inquiry into the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority's appeal against the decision of Kyle and Carrick district council, to enable it to consider the wider issues raised by the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority nuclear dumping investigation proposals.

    No. The appeal must be related to the terms of the UKAEA's original planning application. This, as explained in my reply of 13 June, was for geological research. Completely separate planning procedures would be required for any work involving the disposal of radioactive waste.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland with reference to the reply to the question of the hon. Member for South Ayrshire of 13 June, he will give details of the other sites which have been discussed openly with local interests; and when it will be possible to say which of them may be selected for further study.

    This is a matter for the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority, which I have asked to write to the hon. Member.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish full details of the proposed cuts in public expenditure.

    The volume of expenditure on programmes within my responsibility will be reduced in some instances below that assumed in Cmnd. 7439 as detailed in the table, In addition, while rate support grant for local authorities will be increased to take account of pay settlements, the resultant sum will be abated by not less than £35 million.

    Public Expenditure Survey (at 1979 prices) Housing
    £ million
    Local Authority Capital Expenditure10·0
    SSHA5·0
    Housing Corporations10·0
    Community Land3·5
    Other Local Authority Capital10·9
    New Towns' Industrial and Commercial1·1
    SDA17·0
    Electricity10·0
    Roads and Transport4·6
    Education4·2
    Health2·6
    78·8
    Manpower Services Commission (assessed Scottish share)6·2
    Estimated volume reduction resulting from limitation of adjustments to cash limits for central government programmes30*
    115·0*
    * This figure is necessarily approximate as, consequently, is the total.
    Note: It should be noted that these figures are at 1979 survey prices, in conformity with other similar figures in the Chancellor's Budget Statement. If any of these figures have to be revalued to outturn prices for the purpose of revised Supply Estimates, they will stand to be increased.

    Small Businesses

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many new jobs are expected to be created by small businesses in Scotland as a result of the Budget proposals.

    The changes in income tax and the other budgetary measures designed to help small firms are a first step in our encouragement of small businesses. The tax changes will free more money for investment and owners of small businesses will have added incentive to develop them. The measures will therefore stimulate growth, although it is impracticable to give a precise estimate of the employment effects.

    Fisheries

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received over the quota scheme for whiting; and if he will make a statement on the progress of the scheme.

    Representations have been received from the Shetland Islands council and from the associations representing the Shetland fishermen and fish merchants. My noble Friend the Minister of State had full discussions with these interests during his visit to Shetland on 6 and 7 June.The decision to reduce the permitted level of United Kingdom landing of North Sea whiting from 28 May 1979 was taken in the light of the general state of the stock and the need to spread the fishery over as long a period of the year as possible.The effect of the present restriction will be closely monitored.

    Teacher Training

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what will be (a) the intake in year 1979–80 and (b) the total capacity of the Scottish teacher training colleges.

    On intake, I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply of 24 May to my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat)—[Vol. 967, c. 254–56]. On capacity, much surplus accommodation in the colleges of education has already been put to other use. Arrangements are in hand for further transfers of accommodation, and when these have been completed later this year the total capacity of the colleges will be of the order of 11,300 places.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if, in the light of the Chancellor of the Exchequer's Budget Statement, he intends to keep open all Scottish teacher training colleges.

    My right hon. Friend has no plans at present to close any of the Scottish colleges of education.