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Written Answers

Volume 972: debated on Friday 26 October 1979

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Written Answers To Questions

Friday 26 October 1979

House Of Commons

Staff Grading Review

asked the right hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Mr. Bottomley), as representing the House of Commons Commission, what steps have been taken consequent upon the House of Commons (Administration) Act 1978 in respect of a grading review covering the staff of all the Departments of the House of Commons.

The report of the Committee of Members, which it was my privilege to chair, proposed—paragraph 4.4—that the new House of Commons Commission should be the employers of all the staff in the five Departments of the House. It was recognised, however, that this arrangement could give rise to problems in connection with the grading structure and the Committee therefore recommended—paragraph 5.17—that a full grading review of the whole staff should be undertaken. This has now been put in hand by the Commission and will take place over the next nine months. It will be carried out by a firm of management consultants—INBUCON Limited—and this method as well as the scope of the inquiry have been agreed by all those involved.

Victoria Cross (Pension)

asked the Prime Minister, if she will raise the annual pension payable to the holders of the Victoria Cross, last increased in 1959 to £100.

I have no proposals to alter the present arrangements whereby an unconditional tax-free annuity of £100 is payable to all ranks to whom the Victoria Cross has been awarded.

Cabinet Ministers (Correspondence)

asked the Prime Minister what guidance she has given to members of the Cabinet in giving permission for civil servants to sign letters on their behalf to hon. Members when these letters contain statements or clarifications of the policy of Her Majesty's Government; and if she will ensure that such letters are signed personally unless there is a stated reason for not doing so.

I have not issued any guidance on this subject. However, I would expect letters from hon. Members to receive a reply signed by a Minister under all but exceptional circumstances.

Cabinet Committees

asked the Prime Minister if she will give the reasons why the names and composition of Cabinet committees are confidential.

I named the standing committees of the Cabinet, and their chairmen, in the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Newcastle-upon-Tyne, East, (Mr. Thomas) on 24 May. To go beyond this would be damaging to the principle of collective responsibility.

Defence

Tactical Combat Aircraft

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on the timing, participation and nature of European collaboration leading to the development of a new tactical combat aircraft and the date by which the aircraft should be brought into service.

Discussions have been taking place with France and Germany to establish whether there is a basis for a collaborative solution to meet the nations' requirements for a tactical combat aircraft. The industries of the three countries are now involved and, when their Defence Ministers met in Hamburg earlier this month to review progress on collaborative projects, the tactical combat aircraft was an important topic of discussion.The Royal Air Force needs an aircraft to enter service in about 1990.

Royal Air Force Pilots (Records)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what use is currently made of computer processes in maintaining the records of Royal Air Force pilots under training.

The Royal Air Force personnel management centre holds computer personal records of all Royal Air Force officers, including pilots under training. A study has been commissioned to examine a range of methods, including the application of computer processes, for maintaining progress records of pilots undergoing flying training.

Farnborough Airfield

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration he is giving to making Farnborough airfield available to general aviation traffic.

We have no plans to make Farnborough airfield available for general aviation use.

Stradishall (Ministry Land)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are his intentions for the future of the land which he still owns at the former RAF, Stradishall, giving details of the numbers and types of exercises of armoured fighting vehicles he plans to arrange, and the safeguards that he is proposing to protect local people and the environment from nuisance.

It is intended to use the 550 acres still owned by the Ministry of Defence at the former Royal Air Force station at Stradishall as a local training area for Army units.Planning clearance has been sought from the St. Edmundsbury district council in the normal way to cover this use.Under current plans about six vehicles, some of which would be rubber-tracked Scorpion light armoured vehicles, would use the site daily and on about eight occasions each year it is planed to use Stradishall for major exercises. These would be of approximately 48 hours duration and on these occasions up to 100 vehicles could take part.There will be no live firing although blank ammunition, smoke and flares will be used periodically during exercises. Because of the small number of troops using the site at any one time it is extremely doubtful whether any of those living in close proximity to the area will be inconvenienced by its use as a training area. It is planned to establish clumps of woodland and to seed down to grass some 200 acres of the airfield, while a further 300 acres will be licensed for arable cultivation.

Wales

Brecon Bypass

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether the Government are satisfied with the rate of progress of work on the Brecon bypass; what was the original date of anticipated completion; and what is now expected to be the completion date.

Yes. The original contract completion date was 16 April 1980. The completion date has since been extended to 20 May 1980, because of adverse weather. Given favourable conditions during the winter the bypass should be ready for opening in May.

Royal National Eisteddfod

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he proposes to provide financial assistance for the Royal National Eisteddfod of Wales.

Subject to the approval of Parliament I propose to offer the Eisteddfod council financial assistance of up to £70,000 in the current financial year and up to £120,000 in 1980–81. Furthermore, I propose to tell the Eisteddfod authorities that they can plan for the future in the expectation of limited financial assistance from the Welsh Office on an annual basis subject to advance approval of their proposals and to public expenditure constraints. I hope that this will enable them to formulate long term plans so that the Eisteddfod can continue on a realistic and financially sound footing.

Education And Science

University Teachers (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why it was not possible to keep his Department's arrangements for a follow-up meeting with representatives of university teaching staff in relation to their pay claim during the month of August; and when he expects this matter to be concluded.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given on 25 October to a similar question from my hon. Friend the Member for Cambridge (Mr. Rhodes James) I would only add that there was no commitment by the Department to hold a meeting in August.—[Official Report, Vol. 972, C. 255.]

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science why he has not yet made a pay offer to Committee A of the university teachers national negotiating machinery in respect of a pay settlement due on 1 October 1979; and when he expects to be in a position to do so.

I would refer the hon. Member to the answer given to a similar question from my hon. Friend the Member for Cambridge (Mr. Rhodes James) on 25 October—[Official Report Vol. 922, c. 255.]

Assisted Places Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are his plans for State-assisted places in private schools; whether any such expenditure will be deducted from grants to the relevant local education authority; and if these authorities can use the scheme at their own discretion.

Provision for the establishment of a scheme of assisted places at independent schools is included in the Education (No. 2) Bill which is published today. Government support for the scheme will be provided independently of the rate support grant to local authorities. My right hon. and learned Friend hopes that there will be co-operation between local education authorities and participating schools, and he will take account of the views of authorities concerning the operation of the scheme in their area, but the scheme will be established and operated through agreements between the Secretary of State and participating schools and will not be under the control of local education authorities.

University Entrants

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the proportion of children taking up places at university, divided into those from areas with selective schools and those from areas without selective schools, for each of the last 10 years.

I regret that information is not available to answer the question in precisely the form asked. However, the proportions of leavers from comprehensive schools and from selective schools—that is grammar, secondary modern, technical and other secondary schools added together—in England and Wales entering degree courses at universities for each of the last 10 years are given below:

Comprehensive schools Per cent.Selective schools Per cent.
19784·27·0
19773·96·2
19763·96·6
19753·55·6
19743·55·2
1973*5·57·8
19723·65·0
19713·65·3
19703·85·0
19693·44·9
* The percentages for 1973 are not comparable with those for other years as the total number of leavers was reduced by the raising of the school leaving age.
As the information is based upon a 10 per cent. sample of school leavers each year, the percentages are subject to sampling error and undue reliance should not be placed upon the figures after the decimal points.

Retinitis Pigmentosa

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in view of the £140,000 grant made available from funds in the United States of America for research into the causes of retinitis pigmentosa, with reference to possible links between the eyes and the ears, he will make similar funds available from his Department for research in the field.

Although some research on retinitis pigmentosa is independently supported by charitable and voluntary organisations, the medical research council is the main source in the United Kingdom of public funds for research in this field. The council is always prepared to consider supporting any soundly-based projects of potential value for the effective treatment of retinitis pigmentosa, but it is not its practice to allocate specific funds until detailed scientific proposals have been scrutinised. The council's current grant support for work in the field totals some £135,000, and a further £39,000 per annum is being provided for work at the council's clinical and population cytogenetics unit on a search for genetic markers for the condition.

Energy

Electricity Discount Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many electricity consumers claimed discounts under the 1979 scheme; at what total cost; what was the average discount; and how these figures compare with those for 1978.

Electricity Board19791978
London109,19935,025
South Eastern141,64133,062
Southern140,67331,326
South Western100,58528,206
East Midlands102,46624,765
Eastern196,21253,153
Midlands160,87543,979
South Wales46,96815,768
North Western146,07042,327
Yorkshire134,57142,981
North Eastern79,39522,999
Merseyside and North Wales91,58328,322
South of Scotland187,07853,623
North of Scotland51,10115,666
TOTALS1,688,417471,202
In addition some 70,000 consumers claimed the discount in Northern Ireland (41,377 in 1978) and some 491,000 cash discounts were paid by post offices (206,000 in 1978).

Gas Prices

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what representations he has received about proposals to increase gas prices; and if he will make a statement.

I have received representations from a number of individuals and organisations on the question of gas prices. The Government are studying these in the context of overall energy policy.

Environment

Homes Insulation Act 1978

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list those local authorities which did not take up their full financial allocation under the Homes Insulation Act during the financial year 1978–79.

Some 2¼ million consumers claimed the electricity discount at a total cost of £18 million, and the discount averaged £8. This compares with 718,000 discounts claimed in 1978 at a cost of £5·3 million, with an average discount of £7·44. The 1978 scheme did not extend as in 1979 to recipients of rate or rent rebate or rent allowance.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many consumers claimed electricity discounts in each board area under the 1979 scheme compared with the corresponding figures for 1978.

This information is not available, and could only be obtained at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will set out the financial allocations made for each London borough under the Homes Insulation Act during the current financial year.

These were made available in the Library on 5 September as part of the revised housing capital programme allocations.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what is the total sum allocated for grants under the Homes Insulation Act during the current financial year; and how many dwellings are expected to be insulated as a result;(2) how the average grant made under the Homes Insulation Act related to the

estimated cost of providing adequate loft insulation in an average three-bedroomed house in (

a) June 1978 and ( b) at the latest available date.

The allocation for 1979–80 is about £25·4 million at 1979–80 outturn prices. This is sufficient to provide grants for about 500,000 dwellings. The average grant paid between September 1978 and June 1979 was £38, and the cost of insulating the loft of an average three-bedroomed house with a contractor was (a) £58–£63 and (b) £71.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total sum allocated for grants under the Homes Insulation Act during the financial year 1978–79; how much of this was taken up; and how many dwellings were insulated as a result.

The allocation for 1978–79 was about £22 million of which £8·4 million was taken up in grants for insulating about 220,000 dwellings.

Inner City Land Development

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what specific proposals he has for bringing small plots of undeveloped inner city land into use.

The partnership and programme authorities have powers, including those in the Inner Urban Areas Act, to encourage development. Urban programme resources can be used to support local authority action, and derelict land grant is also available in suitable cases for the prepartion of sites.

Mrs Maggie Jones

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consultations he has had or intends to have with the British Paraplegic Sports Society following the organisation's decision to ban from all international competition Mrs. Maggie Jones of Edinburgh for distributing antiapartheid leaflets at the European paraplegic championships.

It is not for me to intervene in disputes between individual sportsmen and sportswomen and their governing bodies, and I have no plans to do so in this particular instance.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what Government support is currently being given to the British Paraplegic Sports Society; and if he will consider his Department's position in this respect in light of the recent ban from international competition of Mrs. Maggie Jones of Edinburgh.

All Government funds for sport are disbursed by the Sports Council, an independent body under its Royal Charter. It gives no administrative grant to the British Paraplegic Sports Society, although it gives financial assistance in the preparation, training and travel to international paraplegic sports meetings. I understand that the level of financial support for the current year has not yet been settled.

Domestic Rates

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what would be the cost of the abolition of the domestic rate element on residential properties; and how much the rate of (a) value added tax or (b) the standard rate of income tax would need to be increased to provide an equivalent sum to compensate local authorities.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Maryhill (Mr. Craigen) on 4 July 1979 and to the answers I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Worcestershire, South (Mr. Spicer) on 10 July.—[Vol. 969, c. 613, and Vol. 970, c. 149–150.]

Creswell Crags

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions he has had with Derbyshire county council regarding the road B6042 which passes Creswell Crags; and whether he will ensure that the historic site of Creswell Crags is reopened to all the public at the earliest opportunity.

The B6042 has had to be closed because of the danger from rocks falling from the Crags. The only solution would seem to be to realign the road. Earlier this year, the East Midlands regional director of the Departments of the Environment and Transport discussed with the county council, whose responsibility the road is, ways of financing this work. No source of funds has yet been discovered

Witley Court, Worcs

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to publish the report on the future of Witley Court, Worcestershire, commissioned from Mr. Donald Insull.

I referred to the difficult technical problems posed by Witley Court in answer to a previous question from my hon. Friend on 18 June 1979. The consultant expects to complete an interim appraisal of these problems by December. The Department will not publish this appraisal. It will form the basis for more detailed assessments and plans, including consultations with interested parties.—[Vol. 968, c. 443.]

Housing Policy

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in the light of the concern among council tenants throughout the United Kingdom over the non-implementation of the Housing Bill of the previous Administration, whether he intends to introduce similar provisions; and whether the cost of a further "Tenants' Charter" can be justified.

Yes. The Government will introduce a tenants' charter as part of their forthcoming Housing Bill. The proposed provisions of the tenants' charter are set out in a consultation paper, copies of which have been placed in the Library of the House. We consider the cost to be fully justified.

Departmental Office Procedures (Nottingham)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will carry out an inquiry into the effectiveness of his Department's East Midland's region (planning) office at Cranbrook House, Nottingham, in the light of the fact that no inspection was carried out within six months, under the Town and Country Planning Act 1971, of the Oadby (Beaumont Street) Tree Preservation Order 1978 site, despite proper notification having been given, resulting in the lapsing of the order and the felling of the trees in question by a developer.

Rent Assessment Committees

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the cost of operating rent assessment committees in the most recent annual period for which figures are available: and what were the comparable totals for each of the previous five years.

No separate costs for the operation of rent assessment committees are available because the committees are drawn from rent assessment panels which also provide rent tribunals. The cost of rent assessment panels in England for the last financial year and the five preceding financial years are shown below:

£ million (outturn figures)
1978–791·7
1977–781·7
1976–771·8
1975–761·9
1974–752·1
1973–741·3
It should also be noted that in the years 1974–75 and 1973–74 the panels were charged with functions in respect of local authority housing under the Housing Finance Act 1972.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many cases were considered by the rent assessment committees in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and what were the comparable totals in each of the previous five years.

Following is the information requested:

Cases referred to rent assessment committees in England
October 1978—September 19797,787
October 1977—September 19789,547
October 1976—September 197712,045
October 1975—September 197612,089
October 1974—September 19759,997
October 1973—September 19747,186

Mersey Estuary (Pollution)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will investigate the mysterious death of thousands of birds in the Mersey estuary; and what steps he is taking to trace the source of the pollution causing these deaths.

An exhaustive investigation is being carried out by the North-West Water Authority in co-operation with local industry and other statutory and voluntary bodies. The Department is keeping in close touch with progress.

Transport

Individual Number Plates

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is satisfied with the system whereby individual number plates can be retained; and whether he has plans to facilitate their transfer.

We have called for a review of the present arrangements. This is bound to take time, but we shall announce our conclusions as soon as possible.

Tyre Tread

asked the Minister of Transport if he is satisfied that the legal requirement of at least 1mm. of rubber on the tread of a tyre is enough to encourage safety.

I am satisfied that this is a reasonable standard. Research by the transport and road research laboratory suggests that there would be no significant safety advantage in increasing the minimum tread depth.

Orange Badge Scheme

asked the Minister of Transport if he has completed his review of the orange badge scheme; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the right hon. Member to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bedford (Mr. Skeet) on 24 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 203–4.]

Coach Safety

asked the Minister of Transport if, in view of the recent level of accidents involving motor coaches and taking into particular account the number of accidents where no other vehicles were involved he will set up a public inquiry into coach safety.

All coach accidents resulting in injury are investigated by the police, and where deaths occur they are the subject of examination by a coroner's court, the findings of which are made public. If there is any suspicion of a vehicle defect, there is also a thorough investigation by one of the Department's vehicle examiners, and the results of these investigations are made available to coroners. They are also closely monitored by the Department which keeps the relevant regulations under review and, through its vehicle examiners, conducts regular inspections of public service vehicles. Strict penalties can be and are imposed if a coach operator fails to comply with the licensing requirements to maintain vehicles in a safe condition. Despite some recent very regrettable accidents the general trend in coach accidents is downwards. All in all, therefore, I do not consider that a special public inquiry would be justified.

Severn Bridge

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will consider the need for another Severn bridge.

My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Wales and I have decided to put in hand an initial study to look at the potential need for a further Severn crossing and the form this might take. We have set up an official working party to examine the likely development of traffic flow and the capacity of the existing crossings—i.e. by road via the Severn bridge and Gloucester, and the railway tunnel—and the access routes. The working party will also consider the terms of reference for a full feasibility study in the light of its initial findings and of wider planning considerations.

Home Department

Channel Islands

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish a table of charters and Orders in Council which currently apply to the Channel Islands.

I regret that this information cannot be provided without disproportionate cost.

Firearms

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the total number of sales of firearms, shotguns and air weapons, for each year since 1974.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the national total of gun licences issued for the year 1966–67, and the national total of firearms and shotgun certificates issued for the year 1967–68; and how these figures compare with those for the last year for which figures are available.

The issue of firearms and shotgun certificates is a matter for individual chief officers of police, and the full information requested could not be obtained without disproportionate cost. I shall, however, send to the hon. Member such information as is available centrally.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether there is a statutory requirement for gun dealers to retain their records for a specified length of time.

Police Stations (Closures)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what instructions he has given to the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis concerning consultations with locally elected representatives and Members of Parliament in respect of proposals to close police stations.

The Commissioner has conducted a study of local policing arrangements, including such matters as the distribution of work between police stations. Proposals for change have been the subject of consultations with various local interests. Since operational considerations are primarily involved these are matters for the Commissioner rather than me.

Royal Commission On Gambling

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he intends to issue a statement of his policy on the recommendations of the Royal Commission on gambling; and if he will defer his statement until the report has been debated by the House.

I made a statement of policy on the Royal Commission's recommendation for a British horse racing authority in reply to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Richmond. Yorks. (Sir T. Kitson) on 19 July. Proposals to implement some of the recommendations on lotteries are contained in a consultative document issued on 22 October. As announced in the Business Statement on 25 October, the House is to debate on 29 October a motion to take note of the Royal Commission's report.

Pool Competition Act 1971

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total sum which has been raised from the public for charitable and sporting purposes by pools operated under the Pool Competition Act 1971; and what proportion of the total has accrued to charitable and sporting organisations, respectively.

I understand that between 1971 and 1978 £26·8 million out of a total revenue of £178·6 million was applied for the benefit of charities and sport. £21·2 million—79 per cent.—went to charitable organisations and £5·6 million—21 per cent.—to sporting organisations.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from charitable and sporting bodies operating pools under the Pool Competition Act 1971 about the proposals contained in the Royal Commission report on gambling; and if he will make a statement.

Representations have been made to the effect that the Government should not accept the Royal Commission's recommendation that the Act should be allowed to lapse, and that a decision ought, in any case, not to be taken separately from decisions on other recommendations, such as those on lotteries. The Government have taken no decision yet on the future of the Act.

Citizens A The Irish Republic (Voting Rights)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what plans he has to abolish the entitlement of citizens of the Irish Republic to vote in United Kingdom elections in his forthcoming nationality Bill.

I would not think it appropriate to deal with any voting entitlements in a nationality Bill.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what estimate he has made of the number of citizens of the Irish Republic who voted in the United Kingdom general election of 3 May.

None; citizens of the Irish Republic are not separately identified on the electoral register and information is not available to make a reliable estimate.

Immigration

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by what date he expects his policies on immigration to be fully implemented.

I shall be publishing a White Paper on changes in the immigration rules in a few weeks' time.

Citizens Band Radio

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further consideration he has given to the possible introduction of citizens band radio in the United Kingdom: and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply which I gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Scunthorpe (Mr. Brown) on 22 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 7.]

Equal Opportunities Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the annual cost of operating the Equal Opportunities Commission; and what estimate he has made of the cost in 1980.

In the present financial year, the expenditure of the Equal Opportunities Commission is expected to be £2,588,000. Estimated expenditure for 1980–81 is currently being considered.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement of his policy on the future of the Equal Opportunities Commission.

I have reviewed the future of the Equal Opportunities Commission and am satisfied that it has a continuing role.

European Community

Community Accounts

asked the Lord Privy Seal if his Department has access to EEC accounts; what recommendations his Department has made about the way in which such accounts are kept and audited; and if he will make a statement.

Questions relating to the keeping and auditing of EEC accounts are a matter for my right hon. and learned Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer. On the substance of this question, I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to him yesterday by my right hon. Friend, the Prime Minister, and to that given by my right hon. and learned Friend, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, today.

Overseas Development

Aid

asked the Lord Privy Seal what funds have been made available in the past three years for the development of technology appropriate to Third world countries; and if he envisages any changes in the future pattern of any such aid.

It is estimated that total spending on intermediate technologies from the aid programme amounted to £1·5 million in 1976–77, £1·9 million in 1977–78, and £2·7 million in 1978–79.Of this expenditure, ODA's programme to promote intermediate technologies through the intermediate technology development group, which began in 1977, accounted for £0·1 million in 1977–78 and £0·4 million in 1978–79.The future size and form of ODA's support for appropriate technologies is currently under review.

Lomé Convention

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement covering the agreements reached concerning the second Lomé convention; where and when these details have been published by Her Majesty's Government; and if he will state in the Official Report the principal changes made in the existing arrangements.

I refer the hon. Member to the replies I gave on 29 June to my hon. Friend the Member for Wycombe (Mr. Whitney) and on 11 July to the hon. Member for Kingston-upon-Hull, Central (Mr. McNamara).Following the EEC-ACP negotiating conference held in Brussels from 25–27 June the ACP re-opened discussions with the Community on a number of points, nearly all of which have been resolved. Provisional agreement has meanwhile been reached on the date for signature of the new convention, which is due to take place in Lomé on 31 October. After signature the text of the new convention will be presented to Parliament, in the normal way, as a Command Paper, together with all the related documents, and the necessary steps will then be taken with a view to ratification.The main features of Lomé II are as follows:(

a) The basic trade arrangements will remain substantially unchanged. The ACP will continue to be allowed unlimited duty-free access—subject to the safeguard clause—for all industrial products and the large majority of its agricultural exports to the EEC. At the same time there will be improved access to the Community market for various ACP agricultural exports including notably Commonwealth ACP exports of rum and beef, and a revised banana protocol committing the Community inter alia to support any ACP move to establish a joint ACP producer organisation for bananas. There will also be revised provisions making for more flexibility in the operation of the rules of origin—particularly as regards

requests for derogations put forward by ACP States in the least developed category.

( b) There will be increased amounts of Community aid and European Investment Bank lending, the overall amount under Lomé II coming to 5,227 MEUA—million European units of account—(£3,345 million)—as against 3,390 MEUA (£2,169 million) under Lomé I. The new convention will also provide for more flexible programming procedures, designed to meet the needs of the ACP.

( c) The STABEX scheme under the new convention will cover an expanded list of products, including for the first time rubber, pepper, cashew kernels, cotton seed, oil cakes, peas, beans and lentils, and some seafoods.

( d) There will be a new arrangement designed to help ACP mineral producers whose production and income suffers as a result of temporary disruptions beyond the control of the States concerned.

( e) There will be a number of new commitments on both sides—some aspects of which are still being negotiated—concerning the promotion and protection of investments in ACP countries from the Community and its member States.

( f) There will be a new chapter on agricultural co-operation, including provision for a technical centre for agricultural and rural co-operation.

( g) There will be a number of new provisions on industrial co-operation, including notably a section on EEC-ACP co-operation in the field of energy.

( h) There will be a considerably expanded EEC-ACP declaration on sea fishing, in which the ACP States declare their willingness to negotiate bilateral fishery agreements with the Community.

We are taking steps to ensure that British firms are aware of the massive opportunities for exports provided by the increased European development fund.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Citizenship

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will list each Commonwealth country whose citizens' or male citizens' children born in the United Kingdom are entitled under the law of that country to citizenship.

Citizenship laws of Commonwealth countries appear to provide for acquisition of citizenship by a legitimate child born overseas to its citizens who are themselves citizens by birth in the following circumstances:

If both parents are citizens by birth: Ghana, Nauru.
If either parent is a citizen by birth: Australia, Canada, Dominica, Grenada, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Lucia, Solomon Islands, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu.
If only the father is a citizen by birth: Bahamas, Bangladesh, Barbados, Botswana, Canada, Cyprus, Fiji, The Gambia, Guyana, India, Jamaica, Kenya, Kiribati, Lesotho, Malawi, Malaysia, Malta, Mauritius, Nigeria, Seychelles, Sierre Leone, Singapore, Southern Rhodesia, Sri Lanka, Swaziland, Tanzania, Tonga, Uganda, Western Samoa, Zambia.
Where the parent or parents are citizens by descent, the position is more complex.

Refugees

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many refugees from the Far East have been accepted for settlement since 1 January by each European nation, including the Soviet Union, by Libya, Nigeria, Tanzania, Zanzibar, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Cuba.

According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, the numbers of refugees from Indo-China accepted for resettlement between 1 January 1979 and 30 September 1979 are as follows:

Austria196
Belgium486
Denmark702
Finland100
France10,965
Federal Republic of Germany5,552
Greece52
Republic of Ireland109
Italy1,399
Luxembourg45
Netherlands734
USSR and other Eastern and Western European countriesNo figures available
Libya
Nigeria
Tanzania
Cuba
Canada12,011
Australia9,594
New Zealand580
Norway504
Sweden689
Switzerland1,707
The number accepted into the United Kingdom in the same period was 2,799.

Madras

asked the Lord Privy Seal what are his reasons for reducing the size of the deputy high commission staff in Madras; and what are his current plans for representation in that port.

The reduction in the staff of the Office of the British Deputy High Commissioner in Madras forms part of a wider package of economy measures affecting our representation overseas. These have involved the closure of some posts and reductions in others.The exact future staffing level of the Office in Madras has still to be decided.

Sea Bed Resources (Exploitation)

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on the proposed international regime for controlling the exploitation of resources of the deep sea bed.

At the resumed eighth session of the United Nations law of the sea conference, held in New York from 19 July to 24 August, further progress was made towards reaching agreement on an internationally acceptable regime for the exploitation of the mineral resources of the deep sea bed. Details are given in the conference document A/Conf. 62/91, which is being placed in the LibraryThe remaining issues will be discussed at the ninth session of the conference, starting on 3 March 1980. It remains Her Majesty's Government's objective to reach agreement on a regime which would allow for assured access to deep sea bed minerals by States, public corporations and private companies as well as the proposed international mining enterprise.

Angola And Mozambique

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he has any evidence that the East German troops in Angola, particularly near Ongiwa, and in Mozambique are being deployed in connection with offensive actions against Rhodesia; and if the numbers and types of units deployed constitute a threat to that country.

We have no evidence to suggest that East German personnel in Angola and Mozambique are engaged in offensive action against Rhodesia or constitute a threat to that country.

Company Profits (Transmission)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what restrictions have been placed by the Governments of Nigeria, Ghana and Tanzania, respectively, on the transmission of profits to Great Britain by British-owned companies; and if he will make a statement.

As regards Nigeria, there are no restrictions on the remittance of dividends. For management and technical fees the maximum remittance allowed is 3 per cent of net profit. There are also restrictions on the remittance of proceeds of indigenisation: only 300,000 naira may be remitted every six months from the proceeds of the sale of shares. A maximum of 30 per cent of consultancy fees may be remitted.There are no particular restrictions on transmission of profits from Ghana and Tanzania. But in both cases remittance of funds is subject to foreign exchange being made available.

Hong Kong

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will take steps to raise standards of safety, employment protection and trade union rights in Hong Kong to those of the United Kingdom.

These are matters for the Hong Kong Government. The progress being made in these fields is illustrated by the steadily increasing number of International Labour Organisation conventions being applied in the territory. Hong Kong's record compares favourably with that of any country in the region.

Nigeria (Company Nationalisation)

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many British companies have been affected by the policy of the Nigerian Government to nationalise a percentage of foreign-owned companies; and if he is satisfied with the arrangements for compensation and for the transmission of such compensation to the United Kingdom.

A list of 993 foreign enterprises affected by the Nigerian enterprises promotion decree of 1977 was published by the Nigerian authorities on 6 April 1978: a copy has been placed in the Library. I regret that information on which of the companies listed involves British interests is not readily available, and could not be provided without disproportionate cost. The decree required all foreign-owned companies to sell a proportion of their shares to Nigerian citizens. So far as I am aware, nearly all the firms involved have now complied with the decree, and in no case have we been asked to make formal representations.

Rhodesia

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he proposes to set up a fund to compensate landowners in Zimbabwe-Rhodesia; what would be its purpose; and what would be the estimated cost to public funds of the British contribution.

No. If the future Government of a legally independent Zimbabwe should establish an institution to plan, finance and implement an agricultural settlement and development programme which might include the purchase of land, we would be prepared to contribute to the programme from within the overseas aid budget.

Employment

Homeworkers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when health and safety regulations affecting homeworkers will be finalised by the Health and Safety Commission.

I am informed by the chairman that the Health and Safety Commission expects to begin consultations on draft regulations early next year.

Pneumoconiosis (Compensation)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many applications for compensation under the Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers Compensation) Act 1979 have been received by his Department so far; how many of these have been accepted for further investigation: and how many have been rejected.

2,179 applications have so far been received; 149 applicants have been told that they do not appear to satisfy one or more of the basic entitlement conditions. The remaining 2,030 applications are still under consideration, but a number of these applicants also will almost certainly fail to satisfy the entitlement conditions, in particular because not every relevant employer will have ceased to carry on business.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) to what extent his Department is assisting the 1979 campaign to inform employers on how to meet their responsibilities for the employment of disabled people; and if he will make a statement:(2) if he will seek to establish a system of public commendation to employers who pursue successful policies in the employment of disabled people; and if he will make a statement.

Cancer Agents

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to the answer given to the hon. Member for Dunbartonshire, East on 12 July, if he will give the reasons why the Health and Safety Executive has no plans to publish a full list of known and highly suspect cancer agents based on human experience and animal experimentation, having regard to its published statement in December 1977 that there was a growing list of substances and processes to which varying degrees of suspicion of causing cancer were attached.

I am advised by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that various lists of substances suspected of causing cancer in animals or man have already been published. A very extensive list covering several thousands of chemicals for which there is any evidence at all of carcinogenic activity in animals has been published by the National Insurance of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) in the United States.In Great Britain, the Health and Safety Executive has already published a short list of 40 chemicals and processes which have been proved to cause, or are highly suspect of causing, cancer in man or animals in its Guidance Note EH 15/73, "Threshold Limit Values for 1978".In addition, the Health and Safety Executive is considering, as part of the proposed carcinogenic substances regulations, the inclusion, as schedules to the regulations, of lists of carcinogenic substances to which the regulations would apply.The Health and Safety Executive considers therefore that no useful purpose would be served by the publication of yet another list similar to or identical with that published in the United States of America and referred to by the hon. Member in his question of 12 July 1979.—[Vol. 970, c.

243.]

Baking Industry (Hours Of Work) Act 1954

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will now repeal all or part of the Baking Industry (Hours of Work) Act 1954.

I would refer my hon. Friend to the reply given on 22 October to my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Scunthorpe (Mr. Brown).—[Vol. 792. c. 25.]

Manpower Services Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will review his policy of reducing the Manpower Services Commission budget in the light of representations he has received regarding the discontinuation of OUTSET's surveys of the disabled, especially in the North of England.

[pursuant to his reply 23 October 1979, c. 22]: No. There has been no general policy decision to exclude OUTSET surveys of the disabled.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Hill Farming

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in view of the heavy losses sustained by hill farmers, in particular during the earlier part of 1979, he will now increase hill livestock compensatory allowances to their current permissible maximum of £33·92 per breeding cow and £5·08 per hardy breeding ewe with immediate, retrospective effect.

The review of hill livestock compensatory allowances is in progress, and my right hon. Friend intends to announce the Government's decision before the end of November.

Apples

asked the Minister of Agriculture Fisheries and Food (1) to what purposes apples taken out of commercial supply under the EEC intervention scheme in Suffolk since its inception have been put;(2) what quantity of apples has been destroyed in Suffolk under the EEC intervention scheme in each calendar month since the scheme began.

Records are not kept on a county basis, and I regret that to extract figures for Suffolk could be done only at disproportionate cost.

Skimmed Milk Powder

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what quantities of skimmed milk powder have been denaturised in Suffolk under the EEC intervention scheme in each calendar month since the scheme began;(2) what is the approximate value, at current prices, of skimmed milk powder denaturised under the EEC intervention scheme in Suffolk since the scheme's inception.

Records are not kept on a county basis, and I regret that to extract figures for Suffolk could only be done at disproportionate cost.

European Community (Butter Sales)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will seek to ensure that the European Community will not sell further butter to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics at reduced prices and that any butter surplus will be made available to Community members at the reduced rate in order that the butter can be sold to those in need and in low-income groups.

My right hon. Friend raised the question of butter sales to Russia at the meetings of the Council of Agriculture Ministers on 18 September and 15–16 October and made clear his opposition to such sales. As a result of his initiative, an export licensing system for butter, which will enable the position to be monitored more closely, has been introduced, and consideration is being given to the disposal of old butter stocks rather than fresh butter. He emphasised, however, the need to eliminate surpluses so as to make such sales unnecessary and has asked for a general review of surplus disposal arrangements.

Social Services

Cottage And Community Hospitals

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give an estimate of the proportion of patients that is treated in the smaller cottage and community hospitals compared with that treated at district and general hospitals; and if he will give the proportions of surgical operations performed in each group and the percentage of acute beds in each group.

The hospital classification scheme under which statistics are collected by the Department does not identify hospitals as "cottage", "community" or "district general". Using available classifications, some estimate could be made of the number of patients treated in hospitals in particular size ranges, but the cost involved would be considerable.

Psychogeriatric Beds

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many beds are available for the treatment of psycho-geriatric patients in each of the area health authorities per 1,000 population.

Leukaemia

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish in the Official Report the mortality and incidence statistics for myeloid leukaemia in London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Manchester, Barrow-in-Furness, Glasgow and Exeter for each year since 1969.

Available statistics are as follows:

DEATHS FROM MYELOID LEUKAEMIA
NUMBERS AND RATES PER MILLION POPULATION 1969–77
NUMBERSGreater LondonBirminghamLiverpoolManchesterBarrow in FurnessExeterGlasgow
Males
1969122178927
197011317134119
197112418116212
197213413118118
19731471911112110
1974125211164310
1975134221092213
1976122131141417
19771322012101417
Females
1969116188623
19701151814725
19711418722410
1972140199858
19731402489112
1974119171571312
19751262316728
1976140191213214
197714112114117

DEATHS FROM MYELOID LEUKAEMIA
NUMBERS AND RATES PER MILLION POPULATION 1969–77
RATES PER MILLION

Greater London

Birmingham

Liverpool

Manchester

Barrow in Furness

Exeter

Glasgow

Males

1969333326334516
197031344415322221
1971353638234528
197238263931322219
197342384044642225
1974363941241106619
197539423837564425
197636254217288833
197740384742288834

Females

196929342421416
1970293543244010
19713616227618121
19723737292910118
1973374727333027
197432315126266020
1975344356274014
1976383642514024
1977392339162030

Note: The areas are as defined at the time i.e. Birmingham*, Barrow in Furness* and Glasgow* change in 1974. Other areas were not significantly affected by local government re-organisation.

*

Pre 1974

Post 1974

Birmingham County BoroughBirmingham Metropolitan District
Barrow in Furness County BoroughBarrow in Furness County District
Glasgow County of CityGreater Glasgow Health Board Area

NEWLY DIAGNOSED CASES OF MYELOID LEUKAEMIA
NUMBERS AND RATES PER MILLION POPULATION 1969–77

North West Metropolitan

North East Metropolitan

South East Metropolitan

South West Metropolitan

Birmingham

Liverpool

Manchester (includes Barrow in Furness)

South Western (includes Exeter)

Glasgow

*

NUMBERS

Males

1969603344485925604110
197059485554632553436
19717049544610228625410
197288506161903571549
197371425348984386738
1974Not available6
1975Not available21
1976Not available22
1977Not available8

Females

196957305357693149272
197067254745732845385
197162455064703754454
197254405965814976639
1973685853509136924612
1974Not available12
1975Not available11
1976Not available11
1977Not available17

NEWLY DIAGNOSED CASES OF MYELOID LEUKAEMIA
NUMBERS AND RATES PER MILLION POPULATION 1969–77

North West Metropolitan

North East Metropolitan

South East Metropolitan

South West Metropolitan

Birmingham

Liverpool

Manchester (includes Barrow in Furness)

South Western (includes Exeter)

Glasgow

*

RATES PER MILLION

Males

1969292127302323272723
1970283034342523242814
1971343133294026283524
1972433137393533323522
1973342632313840394720
1974Not available11
1975Not available40
1976Not available43
1977Not available116

Females

196926182932272721174
1970301526252824192310
19712827283727322378
1972252433383143323820
1973313429293531392727
1974Not available20
1975Not available19
1976Not available19
1977Not available30

Note: Newly diagnosed cases of myeloid leukaemia are not available after 1973 for England and Wales. For earlier years they are only available for Regional Hospital Board areas, not major towns.

* Glasgow County of City 1969–73: Greater Glasgow Health Board Area 1974–77.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, as part of the sector of work undertaken by the medical research council, he will initiate a new programme of chromosome studies which might be used in identifying the underlying causes of the increased incidence of leukaemia in major towns in Great Britain.

No. Relatively few types of leukaemia can so far be consistently associated with chromosome abnormalities and the medical research council, the cancer research campaign and the leukaemia research fund are already supporting research programmes in the field of chromosome abnormality in relation to leukaemia. Some of these studies are related to environmental factors and are thus indirectly related to particular places. United Kingdom and European experts are also about to collaborate on a study of the possible relationship between leukaemic states and occupational and environmental factors.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why national statistics of leukaemia incidence, as distinct from mortality, have not been published since 1970.

National statistics for registrations (estimates of incidence) of leukaemia and other cancers have been published for England and Wales for 1971 (OPCS series MB1 No. 1). The publication for 1972–73 is being printed by HMSO at present. National cancer registration statistics are collated from independently collected regional statistics. Regional contributions are not compulsory and are consequently sometimes delayed.

Senile Dementia

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people in England and Wales suffer from senile dementia; and how many places exist to care for them within the National Health Service and within local authorities.

Estimates of prevalence suggest that some 700,000 people in England may be suffering from either mild or severe dementia. Provision for their care within the National Health Service and within local authorities is not separately identified centrally.

National Health Service (Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will make a statement on the costs of the National Health Service in the light of the report of the Royal Commission; and if he will indicate the amount of extra funds which by reason of any savings will then become available for patient care.

I assume that my hon. Friend means cost of management. It is the stated aim of this Government to seek reductions over a period in the cost of managing the NHS. They will be pursuing this aim with the health authorities. In addition, the Royal Commission on the NHS has recommended a streamlining of the management structure and a review of the respective roles of unit and functional management. I regard this as a helpful contribution, both to making the management more effective and less costly.These are some of the issues which will be dealt with in the consultative document, which we will be publishing later in the year. There will be some transitional costs, but I believe that, on the basis of the Royal Commission's recommendations and the Government's drive on efficiency, we should aim to achieve overall savings of about £30 million—that is, 10 per cent. on management costs currently running at around £300 million a year—when all the changes have taken effect. This will enable available resources to be channelled more into direct patient care.

Retinitis Pigmentosa

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will set up a monitoring scheme for retinitis pigmentosa patients who have received treatment in Switzerland and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

Treatments abroad of retinitis pigmentosa are arranged privately and without reference to the Department and such treatment cannot therefore be systematically monitored. Our medical advisers are seeking, where possible and subject to the patients' consent, to obtain reports from the consultant ophthalmologists responsible for such patients in this country under the National Health Service.

Value Added Tax

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what arrangements is he making to reimburse contractors to the National Health Service any increase in their costs consequent on the increase of value added tax to 15 per cent.

VAT paid by contractors supplying goods or services not exempt from this tax is recoverable and does not form part of their costs. A variety of methods exist to ensure that contractors who are exempt from VAT receive payment to cover any tax which they have incurred.

Depo-Provera

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) when he expects the Committee for Safety of Medicines to report on the application from the Upjohn Company for the drug Depo-Provera to be approved for long-term use;(2) if he will introduce regulations to ensure that all women receiving injective contraceptives such as Depo-Provera should be given a written statement on the nature of the drug and its side effects.

As my hon. Friend explained in his reply to the hon. Member on 25 June, Depo-Provera is currently licensed only for use as a short-term contraceptive.—[Vol. 969 c. 90.] I am unable to provide any information about applications made by companies to the licensing authority. These are treated as confidential for commercial reasons.As regards the provision of information to a patient about a prescribed medicine, this is primarily the responsibility of the prescribing practitioner. Full information about medicines which are available only on prescription, such as Depo-Provera, is made available to practitioners, normally in the form of a data sheet. The practitioner is thus well equipped to convey to a patient such details of a proposed method of treatment as he may judge to be suitable. In these circumstances I do not propose to introduce regulations to require that information about products such as Depo-Provera should be provided directly to patients.

European Community (Reciprocal Arrangements)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made on extending reciprocal arrangements within the European Economic Community to the self-employed and the non-employed; and if he will make a statement.

Proposals for extending the EEC regulations on social security to the self-employed and non-employed were discussed by the Council of Ministers in Brussels in May of this year. Agreement could not be reached on that occasion because of difficulties encountered by other member States on the statutory basis for the inclusion of the non-employed and on the extension of the existing provisions relating to family benefits. Discussions have continued and the subject is expected to be considered again by the Council on 22 November.

Physiotherapists (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he has received about the pay of physiotherapists employed in the National Health Service; what reply he has sent; and if he will make a statement.

The pay of physiotherapists is presently being considered by the Standing Commission on pay comparability, which is expected to report in January 1980. I have received no representations on this subject.

Pay Beds

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in view of the Government's policy on pay beds in National Health Service hospitals, he is intending to implement the Health Services Board's latest set of proposals laid before Parliament on Wednesday for the withdrawal of a further 179 pay beds from National Health Service hospitals.

Yes. Under the previous Government's legislation, like my colleagues the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales, I am legally bound to implement proposals put to me by the Health Services Board for the withdrawal of pay beds. We have to do this before the date proposed by the Board, in this case before 1 January 1980. We intend to legislate to abolish the Health Services Board and restore our power to authorise pay beds where there is a demand for them, and a Bill will be introduced shortly.

Industry

Gwynedd (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the total cost each year of regional grants for industrial investment in the Gwynedd special development area since the area was given this designation under the provisions of the Industry Act 1972.

The information is not available in the form requested and could not be provided without disproportionate cost. Whilst the total grant paid in any administrative area cannot readily be identified, particulars of regional development grant payments exceeding £25,000 have been published in Trade and industry since 1 October 1974. Totals of such payments in the Gwynedd SDA by financial year from 1 October 1974 to 31 March 1979 are set out below. The area was given SDA status on 14 August 1974.

(£'000)
1974–75110
1975–762,150
1976–77872
1977–781,336
1978–79135
Total4,603

Motor Cars (Depreciation Allowances)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many motor cars are bought by private individuals in the United Kingdom without the benefit of depreciation allowances; and how many are bought which are eligible for depreciation allowances.

European Airbus

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what estimate he has made of the benefits which the United Kingdom avionics industry has so far derived from British Aerospace's participation in the airbus project.

When British Aerospace joined Airbus Industrie as a ful member with effect from 1 January 1979, United Kingdom equipment suppliers became eligible to contribute to the supply of all types of equipment on the same basis as French and German manufacturers. Although it is not yet possible to state definitive figures, estimates provided by the industry suggest that the proportion of United Kingdom equipment on the A310 (excluding buyer-furnished equipment) will be of the order of 7 or 8 per cent. of the total by value, about the same as on the A300.

Centre For Environmental Studies

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a contribution to the funding of the centre for environmental studies to enable that body to continue its research into the operation of regional industrial policy.

The Department of Industry is paying for a research project by the centre for environmental studies into the effectivenes of regional industrial policy. In considering the choice of research contractors, we will keep this organisation in mind.

Fish Preservation (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will take steps to change the interpretation in the minimum list heading III of the Standard Industrial Classification under part I of the Industry Act 1972 whereby freezing, smoking and drying are qualifying activities for the regional development grant scheme, but filleting is not regarded as a means of preserving fish and so does not qualify.

I have no plans to extend qualifying activities for regional development grant purposes to include the filleting of fish.

British Leyland

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will take steps to ensure that British Leyland shall offer to other parties those sections of the company, such as MG Abingdon, at which it is proposed to discontinue production, as a condition for allocating further public money for the restructured company.

Decisions on the future of production facilities no longer required by BL Ltd. for existing purposes must be a matter for the commercial judgment of the company. I understand that in the case of MG BL has said that it is prepared to discuss any offer which makes commercial sense.

Pay Policy

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will publish in the Official Report or place in the Library, depending on its length, his letter to the chairmen of nationalised industries in which he instructed them on pay policy in those industries.

No. It is not customary to publish correspondence between Ministers and nationalised industry chairmen. These letters set out the Government's thinking about the setting of cash limits, on which discussions with the industries are still in progress. The letters made it clear that in regard to pay the Government would be looking for reductions in real labour costs per unit of output.

Hunterston Ore Terminal

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the aggregate cost to the British Steel Corporation to date of the non-operation of the Hunterston ore terminal.

Whilst my right hon. Friend is gravely concerned about the continuation of this regrettable dispute, the question is properly for the British Steel Corporation to answer. However, it is evident that the cost has been considerable, and BSC has now announced the impending shut down of the Ravenscraig plant if the dispute continues.

Moss Morran (Petrochemical Complex)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his estimate of the aggregate cost to public funds of the forms of financial assistance offered towards the establishment of a petrochemical complex at Moss Morran, Fife; what is the cost per permanent extra job to be created; and whether this support is subject to prior parliamentary approval.

No offer of selective assistance under either section 7 or section 8 of the Industry Act 1972 has been made for these projects. Regional development grant may become payable at the rate appropriate to development areas. This rate was recently reduced from 20 per cent. to 15 per cent. The regional development grant scheme is automatic and grant is payable to all applicants who meet the defined and published criteria.

Dow Corning (Financial Assistance)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry, what is his estimate of the aggregate cost to public funds of all forms of financial assistance offered to Dow Corning towards the cost of extending its South Wales silicone factory; what is the cost per permanent extra job to be created; and whether this support is subject to prior parliamentary approval.

I refer my hon. Friend to the statement made by my right hon. Friend on 22 October. Since neither the section 8 assistance nor regional development grants are paid just for the purposes of job creation a cost per job figure would be misleading.

Woollen Textiles

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what proposals he intends to place before Parliament to ensure the retention of a modern and viable woollen textile industry.

It is the Government's intention to continue progressively to create conditions within which industry can generally operate profitably. The wool textile industry has been extensively modernised in recent years and with the assistance of the multi-fibre arrangement there should continue to be a modern and viable industry.

Lucas Aerospace

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make it a condition of grant aid to Lucas Aerospace Industries that hydromechanical work is directed from Pierburg in Germany to Lucas factories in the United Kingdom.

No. This would not be in accordance with our international trading obligations under the GATT and to the EEC. Moreover, the hydromechanical work to which the hon. Member refers is for the Tornado aircraft, and as such is covered by a complex intergovernmental worksharing arrangement between the United Kingdom, West Germany and Italy. Departmental responsibility within the United Kingdom for that arrangement rests with the Ministry of Defence.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will give the total amount of grant assistance given to Lucas Aerospace since the changed rules regarding publication were instituted in 1974.

Particulars of individual regional development grant payments are generally regarded as confidential between the Department and the applicant but, since 1 October 1974, details of grant payments in excess of £25,000 have been published quarterly in Trade and Industry. Lucas Aerospace has not appeared in these lists.

Lucas Victor Works

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what investigations were made into the structural condition of Lucas Victor works when sold to Lucas in 1975.

The purchase of Victor works by Lucas Industries was a transaction between two private sector companies in which the Department played no part.

Retired Civil Servants (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will introduce greater restrictions in the rules governing civil servants' ability to join company boards on retirement by preventing entirely such civil servants from joining companies with which they have dealt during employment with his Department.

No. It would not be desirable to alter the arrangements confirmed by the previous Administration.

Metrication Board

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the annual cost of operating the Metrication Board; and what estimate he has made of the cost in 1980.

I have been asked to reply.The annual costs of operating the Metrication Board since 1970, when it was set up, are as follows:

1970£353,000
1971£436,000
1972£645,000
1973£678,000
1974£655,000
1975£914,000
1976£1,262,000
1977£1,062,000
1978–79£932,000
1979–80£1,163,000(estimated)
The Estimates for 1980–81 have not yet been prepared.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement on the future of the Metrication Board.

I have been asked to reply.The future of the Board, and other public bodies, is being reviewed. As soon as a decision is reached, my right hon. Friend will make a statement.

National Finance

National Land Fund

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take steps to expedite the publication of the accounts of the National Land Fund for the year 1978–79 ended 31 March.

I expect that the National Land Fund accounts for 1978–79 will be published early in December.

Distribution Of Wealth (International Comparisons)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give such comparable data as exist on the distribution of wealth during the period 1960 to 1970 in, respectively, France, West Germany, Italy, Benelux, the United States of America, Canada, Sweden, Japan and the United Kingdom, stating where known the percentage of total personal wealth held by the wealthiest 1 per cent., 5 per cent., 10 per cent. to 20 per cent.

Little comparable data on the distribution of wealth exists for the countries listed. Available information is described in "The distribution of wealth in ten countries"—A. J. Harrison, background paper No. 7, Royal Commission on the distribution of income and wealth—where some limited comparisons of the proportions of total wealth held by top wealth holders are made between the United Kingdom, Canada and the United States of America.

National Savings

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what capital sums are held in the several forms of national savings, with details of each form, at the latest available date.

Provisional balances, excluding accrued interest, at the end of September 1979 of savings administered by the department for national savings were as follows:

£m.
National Savings Bank ordinary accounts1,793·7
National Savings Bank investment accounts1,337·1
National Savings certificates—excluding retirement issue3,907·0
National Savings certificates retirement issue930·1
Save-as-your-earn 1st and 2nd issues34·1
Save-as-you-earn 3rd—Index Linked—issue313·5
British savings bonds671·1
Marketable securities—nominal value391·8
Premium savings bonds1,406·9
Gift tokens and national savings stamps8·0
10,793·3

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what the contribution gross net of repayments and net of administration expenses of the department for national savings has been in the last completed financial year.

Net receipts for the financial year 1978–79 were £1,152·2 million. Expenses of management for the year in administering total balances held by the department were £89 million.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the Government intend to cut any of the services provided by the department of national savings.

The present range of services provided by the department for national savings has been examined as part of a general review intended to achieve reductions in the size and cost of the Civil Service in future years. No decisions have been taken and an announcement will be made in due course.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the increase or decrease in national savings over the most recent three monthly period for which figures are available; and what were the comparable figures in the same period of the previous five years.

Works Of Art

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, since the beginning of the parliamentary recess, any further objects have been accepted in satisfaction of estate duty or capital transfer tax.

Yes. Two paintings by Alfred Sisley entitled "La Petite Place" and "L'Eglise de Moiet" and the Garter regalia of the First Earl of Northampton, comprising the collar, the Great George, the Lesser George and the Garter, have been accepted in lieu of capital transfer tax.The cost borne by the National Land Fund after allowing for relief from capital gains tax and capital transfer tax was £71,162 for the paintings and £151,400 for the Garter regalia.Announcements about the allocation of these objects will be made in due course, after taking advice from the Standing Commission on museums and galleries, by the Secretary of State for Scotland in the case of the paintings and the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in the case of the Garter regalia.

European Community (Budget)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps he proposes to take to ensure that Great Britain will not be compelled to pay £915 million more into the EEC budget than it receives from the Community.

European Community (Auditing)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if his officials have access to EEC accounts; and if they have made any recommendations as to the auditing techniques employed.

On the first part of the question, I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to him yesterday by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. The auditing techniques employed in the Communities' accounts are a matter for the European Court of Auditors.

Public Sector Borrowing Requirement

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is still the Government's policy to achieve a year-by-year reduction in the size of the publice sector borrowing requirement.

I shall let the right hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

Government Holdings

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the arrangements for offering for sale to the public holdings in companies at present partly or wholly owned by Her Majesty's Government or agencies controlled by Her Majesty's Government.

Foreign Currency

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the total value of applications to purchase foreign currency at the official sterling exchange rate between the date of the Chancellor's recent announcement of the relaxation of exchange controls and the latest available date.

Under the exchange control arrangements in force up to midnight on 23 October most transactions involving the purchase of foreign currency in the official foreign exchange market were approved by authorised banks or other authorised bodies—such as travel agents. Information on the total value of such applications is not available. With effect from 24 October applications have only been necessary if a payment to a resident of Rhodesia is involved.

Pay Policy

asked the Chancelor of the Exchequer whether the recent suggestion in a communication to some nationalised bodies that pay rises should not exceed the forecast increase in the retail price index will also apply to central Government employees.

The suggestion to which the right hon. Member is probably referring was not that pay rises should not exceed the forecast increase in the retail price index but that, in setting cash limits for the nationalised industries, the Government would be looking for reductions in real labour costs per unit of output. What this means for the pay of individual workers will depend, among other things, on improvements in productivity in each of the industries concerned.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has held, or intends to hold, discussions with the Confederation of British Industry and Association of Independent Businesses and other bodies representing the small business sector and with Her Majesty's Customs and Excise with a view to extending the period of settlement of value added tax from one month to two; and if he will make a statement.

Ministers have held no discussions on this matter and have no plans to do so.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of value added tax registered traders have a turnover of less than (a) £20,000 and (b) £50,000 a year; and what percentage of the total value added tax revenue they contributed.

In 1977–78, about 40 per cent. of registered traders had taxable turnover less than £20,000 and about 70 per cent. less than £50,000. Traders with taxable turnover less than £20,000 who normally pay tax to Customs and Excise paid 2½ per cent. of gross payments and those with less than £50,000 paid 6 per cent. Traders with taxable turnover less than £20,000 who normally claim repayments of tax received 4 per cent. of total repayments and those with less than £50,000 received 8½ per cent.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be estimated loss of revenue if the value added tax threshold limit were raised to (a) £20,000 and (b) £50,000 annual taxable turnover; and how many businesses would cease to be legally obliged to be registered for each figure.

It is estimated that if the exemption limit was raised to £20,000 taxable turnover a year the revenue loss would be about £25 million in a full year. This is on the assumptions that (i) the de-registration limit was increased proportionately to the registration limit and (ii) the proportion de-registering of those eligible to do so was similar to the proportions when the limits were raised in October 1977 and April 1978.Raising the limit to £50,000 a year would cause such a change in the nature of the tax that it is not possible to make a realistic estimate of the revenue loss.It is estimated that about (

a) 375,000 and ( b) 700,000 persons respectively would cease to be under the legal obligation

Average MLR

*

Average yield on long dated Government securities (20 years)†

Wholesale price index

Retail price index

19707·239·257·16·4
19715·928·759·19·4
19725·918·905·37·1
19739·8510·717·49·2
197411·9414·7722·616·1
197510·7914·3922·224·2
197611·7714·4317·316·5
19778·4512·7319·815·8
19789·1212·489·18·2

* Between 13 October 1972 and 25 May 1978 MLR was normally linked by formula to the average rate of discount for Treasury bills established at the weekly tender. Before and after that period it was set by administrative decision.

† Average of end month rates 1970–72, average of end week rates 1973–75 and average of daily rates 1976–78.
‡ Percentage increase on year earlier. Wholesale price index of output of all manufactured products.

Sources: Financial Statistics, Economic Trends.

Leasing Transactions

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he considers that the deferment of taxation by corporate and private taxpayers through leasing transactions is in the national interest.

to be registered. These figures include many traders who regularly claim repayments of VAT.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated cost of collection of value added tax from businesses with an annual turnover of (a) £20,000 and (b) £50,000.

It is estimated that the average cost to Customs and Excise in 1978–79 was about £70 in respect of each registered person.No reliable information is available about the administration costs related to different categories of businesses but the cost of collecting VAT from a small firm is believed to be less than the average for all businesses.

Interest Rates

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the average level of interest rates in the years 1970 to 1978; and what was the level of inflation in the same years.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 October 1979, c. 290]: The information is as follows:

[pursuant to the reply, 25 October 1979, c. 289]: Leasing raises complex issues which we are keeping under review; it has recently been a significant source of finance for industrial investment.

Trade

Estate Agents

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will consider introducing legislation to require estate agents to register with, and be approved by, local authorities.

No. The Estate Agents Act 1979 makes adequate provision for the supervision of estate agents.

Lloyd's Of London

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether the recent audit certificate granted to Lloyd's of London took into account the claims against Lloyd's in respect of losses on computer leasing.

With my Department's agreement Lloyd's has required the syndicates concerned to increase the minimum reserves which they must hold in order that all justified claims can be met. Compliance with this requirement is subject to audit.

Domestic Air Routes

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if it is his policy to encourage competition from private operators in domestic air routes; and if he will make a statement.

The licensing of air transport operators is the concern of the Civil Aviation Authority, which has published its criteria for licensing short-haul routes, and which has recently published a discussion document on domestic air services. My right hon. Friend is involved where there is an appeal against a decision of the Authority, and there is an appeal pending at the moment in respect of the Heathrow-Belfast route; I do not wish to say anything which might seem to anticipate my right hon. Friend's decision on that appeal.

Multi-Fibre Arrangement

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what preliminary discussions he has had with other EEC Ministers regarding the strengthening of the multi-fibre arrangement immediately and the extension of the present arrangement beyond the expiry date.

My right hon. Friend has had no such discussions. The Government are committed to the support of the present multi-fibre arrangement, and recognise that there will be a need for a continuing orderly marketing arrangement for the trade in textiles after the present arrangement expires.

European Community (Woollen Textiles)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what representations he has made to the EEC to control outward processing, and hidden subsidies to EEC member State woollen textile industries.

As far as the United Kingdom is concerned, all outward processed textile goods count in full towards normal quota and restraint limits. Both my right hon. Friend and my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Industry have made representations to the EEC Commission about apparent anomalies in the cost structures of certain Italian wool textile producers.

Departmental Staff (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many of the officials for which he is responsible have the power to enter premises, subject to statutory conditions; and if in each case he will indicate the statutory authority under which such power is exercised.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 October 1979, c. 250]: Under companies legislation, individual officers may be authorised, as necessary, to enter premises where an appropriate warrant or court order has been made.

Northern Ireland

Belfast City Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland for what offences the 331 persons were convicted during the last Hilary term at the Belfast City Commission; and what sentences were imposed.

[pursuant to his reply, 24 October 1979, c. 213]: The information requested is as follows;

OffenceNumber convictedNon-custodial sentenceBorstal or training centreLess than 5 years5 years and less than 7 years7 years and less than 10 years10 years and less than 15 years15 years and less than 20 years20 years and overLife imprisonment
Murder2929
Attempted murder823111
Conspiracy to murder41111
Manslaughter141472
Wounding with intent to do grievous bodily harm173142331
Causing explosion21122124
Placing explosives
Possessing explosives with intent13132241
Causing grievous bodily harm6231
Assault occasioning grievous bodily harm5221
Possessing a firearm with intent2134365
Escape offences44
Assisting offenders734
Other major firearms offences11371
Withholding information4121
Possessing prohibited articles11
Minor firearms offences19101314
Membership of illegal organisations3727271

Offence

Number convicted

Non-custodial sentence

Borstal or training centre

Less than 5 years

5 years and less than 7 years

7 years and less than 10 years

10 years and less than 15 years

15 years and less than 20 years

20 years and over

Life imprisonment

Unlawful collection of information211
Kidnapping and false imprisonment9522
Contributing to resources of a prescribed organisation11
Soliciting support for a proscribed organisation11
Possessing a firearm3111
Carrying a firearm with intent22
Intimidation33
Aggravated burglary22
Robbery54137146941
Hijacking169313
Arson1563312
Other explosive offences22
TOTALS33197177523334112132
NOTES ON THE TABLES
1. The offence classifications are based on those used by the Crown and Peace Office in its annual return.
2. The tables relate to persons convicted at the Belfast City Commission. This covers all scheduled offences tried on indictment.
3. Some jury trials are included in cases where the Attorney-General certified out of the scheduled mode of trial i.e.: non-terrorist serious offences.
4. Where a person has been convicted of more than one offence, only the most serious or that which received the longest sentence is recorded in the statistics.

Strabane (Public Inquiry)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what the reason is for the delay in publishing the report and findings of the three-day public inquiry into the Strabane through-pass and bypass held in the spring of the current year.

This report was received on 24 September and is now under consideration. A decision on the road proposal will be announced as soon as possible and the inspector's report will be made public at the same time.

Irish Republic (Papal Visit)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, in each of the education and library board areas in Northern Ireland, how many State schools closed for a school day during the Papal visit to the Republic of Ireland; and if he will list them.

[pursuant to his reply, 24 October 1979. c. 213]: Sixty-seven controlled schools were closed in Northern Ireland on 1 October and I do not believe that any useful purpose would be served by going into further detail.School authorities were advised by circular that any school which wished to close on that day could do so and that such closing could be regarded as exceptional under the regulations governing the operation of the school year.

Boundary Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he is now informed that the Boundary Commission expect to publish its draft proposals under the House of Commons (Redistribution of Seats) Act 1979.

[pursuant to his reply, 24 October 1979, c. 212]: I am informed by the Boundary Commission that it hopes to be able to publish its draft proposals before the end of this year.