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Written Answers

Volume 972: debated on Wednesday 31 October 1979

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Written Answers To Questions

Wednesday 31 October 1979

Overseas Development

Ministry Of Overseas Development

45.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what are his intentions regarding the development divisions of the former Ministry of Overseas Development.

Chile

47.

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he is continuing the programme of assistance to the people of Chile, channelled through voluntary agencies.

Nicaragua

48.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what development assistance he proposes to provide to the new Government of Nicaragua.

We are helping to finance significant emergency and reconstruction aid, mainly through multilateral institutions.

Special Task Force

49.

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he is continuing the work of the special task force within the Department to work on alternative sources of energy appropriate to developing countries.

Research and development work on renewable energy sources for developing countries is continuing under the aid programme, based on the advice of the overseas development administration's professional advisers and experts from outside Government.

Ocean Isles

50.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what progress has been made in respect of the survey of Ocean Isles (Banaba) and in identifying specific requests for development there and on Rabi Isles in Fiji.

The Rabi Council of Leaders proposed changes in the composition of the appraisal team. We are seeking the agreement of the Government of Kiribati to these. No specific requests have yet reached us for assistance for development on Banaba or Rabi.

Bangladesh (Tea Estates)

asked the Lord Privy Seal which tea estates in Bangladesh owned by British companies will benefit, and by how much, from the £22 million aid project announced in June.

Of the 149 tea estates in Bangladesh which will be eligible to benefit from the United Kingdom contribution to the tea rehabilitation programme announced earlier this year, 29 are owned by three British companies.The estates will be required to submit their investment plans to the Bangladesh Government's programme co-ordinating committee. British consultants, appointed to assist with the planning and supervision of the programme, will be represented on this committee. Approved plans specifically endorsed by the British consultants may be financed from United Kingdom aid funds. It is impossible to quantify at present the extent to which any potential recipient is likely to benefit.

Turkey

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he proposes increases in the bilateral aid programme to Turkey, or in a United Kingdom contribution to multilateral assistance to Turkey.

We agreed recently to provide £15 million in the form of a bilateral aid loan as our contribution to the OECD programme of emergency assistance to Turkey. We have also agreed to refinance Turkey's official aid debts falling due between 1 July 1979 and 30 June 1980 at a cost to the aid programme of £3·5 million.In addition, a further tranche of aid to Turkey through the European Community budget is currently under discussion with the Turks, and the United Kingdom would meet its appropriate share of this.

Education And Science

Expenditure (Nottinghamshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received about the cuts in education expenditure by Nottinghamshire county council; and if he will make a statement.

None. I understand that the Nottinghamshire education authority has made proposals for reducing its planned current expenditure in the present financial year and in 1980–81.

Maintained Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the average cost to public funds of educating a child of less than 11 years of age in the maintained schools of England and Wales for the last year for which the figure is available.

In the financial year 1977–78 the average net institutional recurrent cost per child at maintained primary—including middle deemed primary—schools in England and Wales was £324 at 1978 survey prices.

Universities (Admissions)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will now answer questions about university admissions and the number of applications for particular courses at individual universities.

Such information is not generally available to my Department. The uinversities central council on admissions—UCCA—collects the information about university applications and admissions.

Home Department

Vagrancy

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the age, length of sentence and prison of three women imposed in 1978 in default of payment of a fine for begging and sleeping out.

The three women received into prison department establishments in England and Wales in 1978 in default of payment of a fine for begging and sleeping out were aged 43, 52 and 57; each was received on sentence of seven days into Holloway.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the age, length of sentence and prison of the three women, aged 60 years and over sentenced to immediate imprisonment in 1978 for begging and sleeping out.

In 1978 there were four receptions of women aged 60 and over into prison department establishments in England and Wales on sentence of immediate imprisonment for begging and sleeping out. Two women, aged 61 and 63 on first reception, were received twice on sentence of 14 days into Holloway.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the age, length of sentence and prison of the 24 men aged 60 years and over subject to immediate imprisonment in 1978 for begging and sleeping out.

The 24 receptions were of 13 men; four, aged on first reception 64, 64, 65 and 68, were received three times; three, aged 60, 63 and 66, were received twice and six, aged 60, 60, 60, 63, 69 and 74 were received once. Six of the sentences were of 14 days, four of 28 days, two of 30 days, one of 44 days, seven of 60 days and four of 90 days. One man was received on sentence into Lincoln, one into Liverpool and one into Oxford; the remaining 21 receptions were into Pentonville.

Drunkenness

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the age, length of sentence and prison in which held of the two men imprisoned in 1978 for default of payment of a fine for drunkenness and who were held for up to six months.

In 1978 two men were received into prison department establishments in England and Wales with a sentence of more than three months and up to and including six months in default of payment of a fine for drunkenness. One, aged 29, was sentenced to 140 days and received into Liverpool prison on sentence. The other, aged 31, was sentenced to 108 days and received into Lincoln prison on sentence.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the age, length of sentence and prison in which held of the 13 men imprisoned in 1978 in default of payment of a fine for drunkenness and who were held for two or three months.

In 1978 13 men were received into prison department establishments in England and Wales with a sentence of more than two months and up to and including three months in default of payment of a fine for drunkenness. Two of these men were aged 20, the others were aged 22, 24, 31, 32, 36, 37, 38, 39, 44, 46 and 52. Four were sentenced to 90 days, two each to 70 days and 63 days and one each to 72, 79, 84, 86 and 88 days. They were received on sentence into the following prisons: three into Pentonville, two into Leeds and Manchester and one each into Bedford, Durham, Lincoln, Liverpool, Winchester and Wormwood Scrubs.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the age, length of sentence and prison in which held of the two women imprisoned in 1978 in default of payment of a fine for drunkenness and held for two or three months.

In 1978 two women were received into prison department establishments in England and Wales with a sentence of more than two months and up to and including three months in default of payment of a fine for drunkenness. One, aged 29, was sentenced to 75 days. The other, aged 33, was sentenced to 90 days. Both were received into Risley remand centre on sentence.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the age, length of sentence and prison of the three men aged 60 years and subject to immediate imprisonment for drunkenness in 1978.

The three men aged 60 or over who were received into prison department establishments in England and Wales in 1978 sentenced to immediate imprisonment for drunkenness were aged 68, 69 and 76. They were each sentenced to one month and were received on sentence into Birmingham, Lincoln and Gloucester.

Mr And Mrs Maguire (Visits)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the cost of each of the meetings between Mr. and Mrs. Maguire, both serving sentences in Her Majesty's prisons; how far apart their prisons are situated; when visits over this distance started; why they are not kept nearer to each other; and what plans he has to reduce the cost to the taxpayer of their visits.

The prisons in question are 212 miles apart and visits between Mr. and Mrs. Maguire over this distance started in March this year. The present locations of Mr. and Mrs. Maguire were decided taking security and other considerations into account, including the cost of visits. I shall write to my hon. Friend about the costs.

Prisoners (Married Couples)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisons contain prisoners of both sexes; how many married couples are currently in prison; what arrangements exist for them to meet; and, in deciding where to place such prisoners, what consideration is given to any consequent saving of money by avoiding the need for lengthy journeys.

One prison and three remand centres hold both men and women prisoners. No figure is available of married couples imprisoned, but some 37 couples currently have inter-prison visits. These are not an entitlement, but are usually allowed at three-monthly intervals, arrangements being made by the two governors. The cost of visits can only be one factor taken into account in the location of these prisoners.

Self-Service Stores (Theft Prevention)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to institute a procedure whereby magistrates license self-service stores in respect of their theft-preventive measures similar to the system used to issue licences for the sale of alcoholic beverages.

This proposal is one of several contained in the report on shoplifting which my hon. Friend sent to me earlier in the year. We shall be writing to him about this shortly.

Nationality

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, when preparing his new legislation on nationality, he plans to consider the right of Irish citizens to vote in United Kingdom general elections.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Knutsford (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne) on 26 October.—[Vol. 965, c. 327.]

Immigrants (Special Representations)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what number of special representations he has received from Members of Parliament on behalf of people trying to enter Great Britain but disallowed by the immigration officials; how many of these cases proved to have reasonable grounds for such representations; and what was the cost to the public purse on average of each intervention by Members of Parliament.

I regret that this information is not readily available and could be provided only at disproportionate expense.

Temporary Visitors (Clearance)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will investigate a simpler and more effective method whereby bona fide temporary visitors to Great Britain from the Asian subcontinent can obtain clearance in their country of origin.

The immigration rules provide that a Commonwealth citizen who wishes to ascertain in advance whether he is eligible for admission to the United Kingdom can apply to the appropriate British representative overseas for entry clearance. Similar provision exists for citizens of Pakistan. The arrangements for dealing with such applications at posts overseas are a matter for the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. If my hon. Friend has any proposals for change in the existing arrangements perhaps he would write about them.

Vietnamese Refugees

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many Vietnamese refugees have so far arrived in the United Kingdom; how many are currently in reception centres; of these, how many have been there for more than three months; and if he is satisfied that the arrangements for processing and housing these refugees are satisfactory.

Since 1975 over 4,000 refugees from Vietnam have arrived or been allowed to remain here. There are currently about 2,200 refugees in reception centres, of whom approximately 1,200 have been there for longer than three months. Arrangements for the reception and resettlement of these refugees by the voluntary organisations are now being co-ordinated by the joint committee for refugees from Vietnam, of which I have just appointed Sir Arthur Peterson, KCB, MVO, to be chairman.I am satisfied that these arrangements should enable us to fulfil our programme.

Equal Opportunities Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now answer questions on grants given by the Equal Opportunities Commission.

While my right hon. Friend has never declined to answer any question about such grants where the question related to matters which were within his responsibility or concerned the scope of that responsibility, substantive decisions about the making of grants by the Equal Opportunities Commission under section 54 of the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 are entirely the responsibility of the Commission and he has no standing in such matters.

National Finance

British Petroleum

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give further details about the sale of part of the Government's shareholding in British Petroleum.

My right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer announced in his Budget Statement that the Government intended to sell part of their shareholding in British Petroleum.—[Vol. 968, c. 249.] Arrangements have therefore been made for the sale of 80 million ordinary shares of 25p each in the company. The sale of 80 million shares represents 5·17 per cent. of BP shares and will reduce the total of the Government and Bank of England holdings, taken together, to some 46 per cent.The invitation to underwrite the sale of these shares at £3·63 a share was issued this morning and this has been successfully completed. A press notice is being issued by the Bank of England giving more particulars of the sale and detailed terms of the offer will be advertised in the press on 4 and 5 November. Copies of the prospectus and application forms will be available from 5 November from the Bank of England and its branches, main United Kingdom branches of many banks, main branches of the trustee savings banks, main post offices, the banks underwriting the offer and from the brokers to the offer. Application lists will open at 10 am on 9 November and close some time later that day. Applications from employees of BP and its United Kingdom subsidiaries for shares not exceeding £500 in value at the offer price as well as applications from the trustees of the BP group employee participating share scheme will be allocated in full. My right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer made clear in his Budget Statement that the Government's sales of State-owned assets would, besides serving the immediate purpose of helping reduce the borrowing requirement, be an essential part of the Government's long-term programme for promoting the widest possible participation by the people in the ownership of British industry. So far as possible, this intention will be taken into account when making allocations in the event of over-subscription. In addition, the minimum size of application on this occasion will be 75 shares as compared with the equivalent of 100 shares in the 1977 sale.The prospectus will record that the Government do not intend to sell any more of their present holding in the company, nor is there any intention to sell, other than to the Government, any of the shares in the company representing the holding acquired by the Bank of England from the Burmah Oil Company Limited and one of its subsidiaries, for the foreseeable future. It will also record the Government's reaffirmation of their intention to maintain their relationship with BP in a way which does not breach the traditional practice of non-intervention in the administration of BP as a commercial concern.A token Estimate will be presented to the House in due course to provide for the expenses of the sale, including any arising from indemnities given in connection with the sale. A minute will be laid before Parliament today regarding those indemnities.

European Community (Budget Contributions)

53.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what progress has been made in securing a fairer contribution by the United Kingdom to the European Economic Community budget.

Her Majesty's Government have continued to build on the progress made by the Prime Minister at the June European Council. The European Commission has produced a reference paper which demonstrates the serious inequity of the United Kingdom's prospective net contribution, and will shortly be submitting to member States its proposals for a solution. The Government hope that these proposals will provide the basis for agreement, at next month's European Council, on a solution which will remedy the present inequity, and ensure that it does not arise again.

Building And Construction Industry

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the level of tax evasion in the building and construction industry in each of the past four financial years.

By the very nature of evasion it is not possible to put a firm figure on the amount of tax which is lost in this way, but the amounts could well be very substantial indeed.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the total cost to the Inland Revenue of running the tax exemption certificates scheme for the building and construction industry.

I assume that my hon. Friend is referring to the arrangements which came into force in April 1977.The cost is about £4·7 million.

Overseas Tea Estates (Capital Repatriation)

54.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the figures for capital repatriation to Great Britain by British companies owning tea estates in India, Bangladesh, Kenya, Malawi and Tanzania, in each of the last five years.

Works Of Art

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, with reference to his written answers to the hon. Member for Warley, East, Official Report, 6 July, column 773, and Official Report, 25 July column 287, the Commissioners of Inland Revenue have, under their general responsibility, in recent years exercised their discretion to waive interest charges in respect of the value of works of art and museum objects accepted in satisfaction of estate duty and capital transfer tax.

In a small number of cases in which property has been offered and subsequently accepted in satisfaction of a liability to estate duty or capital transfer tax the Inland Revenue has waived interest on that liability for a period following the receipt of the offer.As I said in reply to the hon. Gentleman on 6 July, one of the recommendations made in the third report of the Expenditure Committee—Environment Sub-Committee—of Session 1977–78 relates to this point; the Government are still considering this recommendation.

Civil Servants (Training Facilities)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many merchant banks have given training facilities to civil servants at Her Majesty's Treasury in the last year; which merchant banks have given such facilities; and how many civil servants have benefited from such training.

As part of a continuing programme of secondments three merchant banks—Kleinwort Benson Limited, S. G. Warburg and Co. Limited, and Finance for Industry Limited—have each had one Treasury official serving with them during the last year.

Commuter Rail Fares (Tax Relief)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now consider the introduction of tax relief on commuters' rail fares.

No, I do not think it would be right to give tax relief for this particular type of personal expenditure.

Domestic Credit Expansion

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the percentage increase in domestic credit expansion in each of the last three months for which figures are available.

Domestic credit expansion in each month as a percentage of the sterling M3 stock is as follows:

Seasonally adjusted per cent.:
DCE*
Banking July—0·8
Banking August—2·0
Banking September—1·7
* There are no stock figures available for DCE. The figures have been calculated by taking seasonally adjusted DCE during the month as a percentage of the seasonally adjusted sterling M3 stock at the beginning of the month.

Sterling M3

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will estimate the contractionary effect on sterling M3 over the last six months caused by the balance of payments deficit.

The external adjustments between DCE and £M3, which broadly reflect the private sector's external balance on both current and capital account, amounted to minus £1,115 million—seasonally adjusted—in the six months to mid-September. However, the overall impact of external transactions on £M3 is not simply equal to this statistical effect but will also depend on the impact of external developments on, for example, bank lending and the demand for gilts. These indirect effects cannot be measured with any precision, but it is likely that they have served to reduce although not eliminate the contractionary effect on £M3.

Capital Movements

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, in view of the abolition of exchange controls, how the Government propose to monitor capital movements in order to arrive at the balance for official financing.

The abolition of exchange controls will make no difference to the information available on the balance for official financing itself, as that is derived by adding the data on official financing transactions, all of which are known to Her Majesty's Government. These are the transactions shown "below the line" in the balance of payments accounts. However, there will be less information available that hitherto about certain types of current and capital account transactions which contribute to the balance for official financing—transactions shown "above the line". Discussions are being undertaken to consider how the loss of statistical information from exchange control sources can be made good.

Overseas Banks (Interest Payments)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will introduce legislation to ensure that overseas banks report directly to the Inland Revenue on interest paid to depositors who are resident in the United Kingdom.

Money Supply

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what action the Government propose to take, in view of the abandonment of exchange controls, to strengthen control over the money supply, in view of the opportunities for avoiding the present controls by the use of offshore banking facilities.

The main means of achieving monetary control remain the control of the PSBR and adjustments in the level of interest rates. The effects of the abolition of exchange control will be clearly one of the factors which need to be taken into account when the Government consider whether to roll forward the SSD scheme, which currently extends to mid-December. Consideration of other techniques of monetary control will also take account of this factor.

Wage Settlements

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how he plans to prevent the inflationary consequences of the current high level of wage settlements.

The Government are determined to master inflation by the resolute pursuit of firm monetary and fiscal policies: pay settlements which do not reflect improvements in productivity or efficiency will inevitably result in redundancies, or bankruptcies.

Building Societies (Special Advances Limit)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, in the light of the general increase in house prices in the last 12 months, and in particular the level of increases in London and the home counties, he will increase the special advances limit currently £20,000 which applies to building sacieties.

Business Premises (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has any plans to review the powers of Customs and Excise and Inland Revenue offices to enter business premises.

[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979]: As we said in our manifesto, we intend to undertake a thorough review of the enforcement procedures of the Customs and Excise and the Inland Revenue.

Small Businesses (Purchasing Contracts)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what arrangements there are in his Department to ensure that small businesses receive a proportion of all purchasing contracts issued by his Department; and what proportion he expects this will be in 1979–80 and 1980–81.

[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979]: The Treasury lets contracts only rarely and does not have any special arrangements of this kind.

Departmental Officials (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many of the officials for whom he is responsible have the power to enter premises subject to statutory conditions; and if in each case he will indicate the statutory authority under which such power is exercised.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 October 1979, c. 291]: The information requested is as follows:CUSTOMS AND EXCISE

Commissioned officers of Customs and Excise have carefully delimited powers of entry to premises for the purpose of the detection and prevention of smuggling and duty or tax evasion, under the provisions of the following Acts of Parliament—
Customs and Excise Management Act 1979, Sections 33, 84, 112, 113 and 161
Finance Act 1972, Section 37 and Schedule 7
Alcoholic Liquor Duties Act 1979, Sections 25, 79 and 83
Betting and Gaming Duties Act 1972. Schedules 1, 2, 3 and 4
Approximately 14,000 officers of Customs and Excise hold commissions which would empower them to enter premises, subject to statutory conditions, but only a small proportion of these officers are engaged at any one time on duties where the need to exercise that power is likely to arise.

INLAND REVENUE

Any collector of taxes is empowered by section 61 of the Taxes Management Act 1970 to distrain upon goods in order to recover unpaid tax and in doing so may enter premises. The power was exercised in some 18,500 cases in 1977–78.
There is a group of provisions under which officers of the Board of Inland Revenue may enter and inspect premises which have to be valued. Under section 86 of the General Rate Act 1967, valuation officers and persons authorised by them may inspect any hereditament in making a valuation for rating purposes. Under section 110 of the Taxes Management Act 1970, a person authorised by the Board may, on producing evidence of the authority enter on and inspect land, to establish its annual value for income tax or corporation tax purposes. Similarly, under section 111 the Board may authorise an officer to inspect property for capital gains tax purposes. There are parallel provisions for capital transfer tax (paragraph 11 of schedule 4 to the Finance Act 1975) and development land tax (section 111A, Taxes Management Act 1970).
No other officials of the Inland Revenue have a general power of entry. Circumstances in which the power may be conferred upon a named officer or officers for a specific purpose are as follows—
Under section 20c of the Taxes Management Act 1970, an officer of the Board may, with the Board's approval and with a warrant issued by the appropriate judicial authority, enter and search premises on which he has reasonable ground for suspecting that evidence of tax fraud is to be found. The power has so far been exercised in 13 cases.
Under section 17 of the Finance Act 1975, an inspector specifically authorised by the Board and bearing an authority in which he is named may enter premises for the purpose of assisting the Board to determine whether a direction should be given under section 485 of the Taxes Act (sales etc. at undervalue or overvalue). The power has never yet been exercised.

Treasury—Exchange Control Division

All exchange controls except in relation to Rhodesia have been removed from midnight 23 October. However, certain investigations into past exchange control offences still need to be pursued.

There are at the present moment six enforcement officers who may sometimes also be named in a search warrant issued by a justice of the peace authorising any constable under paragraph 2 of part 1 of the 5th Schedule to the Exchange Control Act 1947. In 1979 such warrants have been used in two investigations. Occasionally officers of Customs and Excise are also named in these search warrants in cases where they are carrying out an investigation on behalf of the Treasury.

Employment

Homeworking Advisory Committee

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when the homeworking advisory committee will next meet; what its agenda will be; and whether it will be maintained.

Homeworkers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he will take to safeguard the pay and conditions of homeworkers outside wages council trades.

Decisions in this area will depend on the outcome of my Department' current programme of research into the numbers, distribution, and characteristics of homeworkers both inside and outside the wages council trades.

Wages Inspectorate

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if public expenditure cuts will affect the Wages Inspectorate; and, if so, to what extent;(2) when he envisages the cycle of inspection in wages council trades to be reduced to five years and four years, respectively;(3) if public expenditure cuts will affect the homeworking unit of the Wages Inspectorate; and, if so, to what extent.

The Government are currently considering to what extent proposals for a reduction in public expenditure would affect the planned programme of the Wages Inspectorate and its homeworking unit.

Jobcentres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the estimated cost of the proposed purchase by the Property Services Agency on behalf of his Department for use as jobcentres of shops with exclusive ground floor display fronting main shopping streets in the following neighbouring districts: Bayswater, Harrow Road N.9, Earls Court, Notting Hill Gate, Shepherds Bush, Harlesden, South Harrow, Hendon Central, Greenford, Cricklewood, Kingsbury, Ashford (Middlesex) and Southall.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission—MSC—that plans for establishing jobcentres in these districts have not yet reached a stage where the costs of acquiring premises can be estimated. The Property Services Agency, which acts on behalf of the MSC in such matters, is at present looking for suitable sites and until such sites have been identified it is impossible to assess the likely costs. If and when sites are found in these locations all projects will have stringent tests of cost effectiveness applied to them before any are authorised.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobcentres have been opened by the Manpower Services Commission since 3 May; at what total cost; and how many job placements have been made by such jobcentres.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that 40 jobcentres have been opened since 3 May 1979 at a total cost of £1,867,373. This figure includes the cost of purchase of buildings or of lease premiums where appropriate, and the cost of any necessary adaptations to the premises.The table below shows the number of new jobcentres opened and the placings achieved by them in the months May to October 1979.

MonthNumber of jobcentre openingsPlacings achieved by all jobcentres opened since 1 May 1979
May127
June8728
July71,129
August72,131
September103,103
October7
Total407,118

Notes:

1. As most of the new jobcentres opened after the start of the monthly statistical period, the placings figures include some achieved by employment offices which were replaced by the jobcentres.

2. Figures for October 1979 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobcentres the Manpower Services Commission expects to open between 31 October and 3 May 1980; and at what total estimated cost.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that it expects to open 56 jobcentres between 31 October 1979 and 3 May 1980 at a total cost of about £3,043,000. This figure includes the cost of purchase of buildings or of lease premiums where appropriate, and the costs of any necessary adaptations to the premises.

Career Officers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many additional career officer posts, funded from central Government resources, have been authorised since 4 May.

None. Local authorities are still in process of filling the 640 posts—330 careers officers and 310 employment assistants—previously authorised for Great Britain. On 18 October 71 posts were still unfilled.

Departmental Investigators (Binoculars)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) on whose authority binoculars were issued to investigators in his Department; how many have been issued; what was their total cost; by whom are they used and for what purpose; and if there are any guidelines as to their use;(2) if he will prohibit the use of binoculars by members of his Department when used for observing claimants.

White Asbestos Dust

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on what are acceptable levels of white asbestos dust to which workers should be exposed.

I am informed by the chairman of the Health and Safety Commission that, as practical guidance in complying with the Asbestos Regulations 1969 and the Health and Safety at Work, etc. Act 1974, occupational exposure to dust from all forms of asbestos should be reduced to the minimum reasonably practicable. In addition, in the case of white—chrysotile—asbestos, occupational exposure should never exceed 2 fibres/ml when measurements are averaged over a four-hour sampling period. Short-term occupational exposures should not exceed 12 fibres/ml when measured over any ten minute period.In its final report the advisory committee on asbestos has recommended retention of the first criterion and a more stringent limit for the maximum occupational exposure to dust from white—chrysotile—asbestos of 1 fibre/ml—averaged over a four-hour sampling period—from 1 December 1980. The Health and Safety Commission has invited comments on this and other recommendations in the advisory committee's final report and, when these have been assessed, will advise on appropriate future action.

Wales

A55 Euroroute (Gwynedd And Clwyd)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what approaches have been made by the Welsh Office to the European Investment Bank for loans to speed up construction of the A55 Euroroute in the counties of Gwynedd and Clwyd; and what has been the response of the EIB.

None. The availability of such loans would not in fact speed up the construction of the A55 project.

Sheep

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is satisfied with the state of the sheep industry; and if he will make a statement.

A number of factors are currently depressing market prices. Returns on fat sheep are being supported by substantial payments under the fat sheep guarantee scheme. Pressure is being maintained on the French Government to abide by the judgment of the European Court and to allow free access for imports of United Kingdom sheepmeat. The hill livestock compensatory allowances are currently under review.

Transport Policy Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for Wales (1) if he will provide a table showing the bids made by each county of Wales in the revised finance forms of the 1980–81 transport policy programmes submissions, under the following headings; public transport capital, highways capital, traffic management, parking capital, other capital, total capital, maintenance, revenue support, other current spending, total current and total transport supplementary grant eligible expenditure;(2) if he will provide a table showing at November 1978 prices the total transport policy programme base programme bids for Welsh counties, the total expenditure accepted by Government, the proportion of the bid accepted and the transport supplementary grant paid for each year since 1975–76.

Transport policies and programmes are not statutory documents and it is for individual counties to decide whether to publish their bids. Details of past settlements are:

TSG SETTLEMENTS—WALES
Nov '78 Prices
Settlement year and Accepted Expenditure£m Grant
1975–7683·20519·483
1976–7787·07828·924
1977–7874·44628·583
1978–7982·02632·524
1979–8081·46331·314

Northern Ireland

Department Of Health And Social Security

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what functions the Department of Health and Social Security in Northern Ireland discharges which in England and Wales are discharged by local authorities.

The Department of Health and Social Services is responsible for the provision of personal social services in Northern Ireland—a responsibility similar to that of local authorities in Great Britain.The Department's functions are exercised by the health and social services boards in Northern Ireland on behalf of the Department.

Accounting year ending in
197419751976
£ million£ million£ million
Total amount held by all firms of solicitors in clients' accounts at year end662753760
Interest retained in year net of amounts paid over to clients212119
Per cent.Per cent.Per cent.
Proportion of average firm of solicitors' income derived from this source4·33·62·8
Scotland: The Royal Commission on legal services in Scotland is examining the remuneration of solicitors. Its report is expected next year. No information is presently available.
Northern Ireland: No information is available.

Rhodesia (Sanctions)

asked the Attorney-General whether any companies or individuals in addition to those listed in his letter of 26 July to the hon. Member for Holborn and St. Pancras, South have been successfully prosecuted; and, if so, in each case how long the Director of Public Prosecution took to consider the evidence before recommending prosecution.

Solicitors (Client Accounts)

asked the Attorney-General what has been the average amount of money held by all solicitors in the United Kingdom in client accounts for each of the last three years; what has been the net income to solicitors throughout the United Kingdom against moneys deposited in client accounts for each of the last three years; and what proportion of solicitors' income has been derived from this source for each of the last three years for the average solicitor and for the 10 per cent. of solicitors who receive the highest proportion, respectively.

England and Wales: No information is available for 1977 or 1978, or in respect of that 10 per cent. of solicitors who derived the highest proportion of their income from interest on clients' accounts. The following estimates, for 1974, 1975 and 1976, were made in a survey conducted on behalf of the Royal Commission on legal services.

"Pretty Baby" (Film)

asked the Attorney-General if he will refer to the Director of Public Prosecutions with a view to prosecution under the Children Act 1978, the distributors of the film "Pretty Baby".

The Director has considered this matter and has decided not to institute any criminal proceedings.

Jury Vetting

asked the Attorney-General what is the average amount of additional costs incurred by defendants in legal aid cases due to vetting procedures of the jury panel.

I have been asked to reply.I regret that this information is not readily available.

Law Commission (Report)

asked the Attorney-General whether he has yet considered the Law Commissioners' report.

I have been asked to reply.As I said in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Epsom and Ewell (Mr. Hamilton) on 18 July 1979, I am considering what action I should take in the light of the recommendations contained in the Law Commission report on implied terms in contracts for the supply of goods, HC 142, July 1979.—[Vol. 970, c. 706–7.]

Trade

European Community (Jute Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what submission has been made to the EEC on the import of jute manufactures into the Common Market from India and Bangladesh.

None. Officials are currently engaged in exploratory discussions within the Community about the future of the EEC's jute agreements with India and Bangladesh, which expire at the end of this year.

Glue Sniffing

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what steps he considers might help to prevent the practice of glue sniffing among young people; whether he has reason to believe the problem is worsening; and if he will make a statement.

I fully share the hon. Member's concern about this dangerous practice but, taking the country as a whole, I have no reason to believe that the problem is worsening. The pattern seems to be one of scattered outbreaks among young people rather than a continuing or widespread habit.There is no easy solution. The only practical policy in my view is to rely on the activities of drug liaison committees, schoolteachers, doctors, social workers, police and youth organisers to educate young people on the dangers of "sniffing" in those localities where there is evidence that this is taking place.

Firework Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what study he has made of the firework accident figures in recent years; if he now proposes to take additional steps aimed at reducing the number and severity of these accidents; and if he will make a statement.

My Department studies the firework accident figures each year. I am concerned that the downward trend in the number of accidents was reversed in 1977 and 1978, but I am hopeful that the present publicity on firework safety will reduce their numbers this year. In an attempt to reduce the number of accidents caused by street incidents, the manufacturers have voluntarily agreed to reduce the explosive content of bangers and, in order to prevent accidents with home-made fireworks, I am considering the feasibility of requiring sodium chlorate and products based on it to be available to the public only in such a form as to be ineffective for making explosive mixtures.I intend to keep the Department's policy on fireworks under review.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will give details in the Official Report of the arrangements which have been made by his Department prior to 5 November to publicise the dangers of firework accidents; and if he will make a statement.

Publicity material made available by my Department includes a new firework safety poster featuring a well-known television personality, a new leaflet on organised displays and a leaflet which has been distributed to all registered retailers of fireworks, drawing their attention to the legislation and voluntary agreements covering the sale of fireworks. Ten television filler films on the safe use of fireworks are possessed by the television networks and four new radio tapes have been recorded and distributed.A pack of publicity material, including a cartoon strip, has been issued to the media and has received a wide press coverage. In addition, other bodies such as ROSPA and the Firework Makers Guild have co-operated with the Department by producing and distributing material on firework safety.

Turkey (Yarn Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade why Turkey has been allowed to exceed the import quota of yarn by importing 3,540 tonnes to the end of June when the agreed ceiling was 2,940 tonnes.

[pursuant to his reply, 29 October 1979, c. 396]: There is no quota on the import of cotton yarn from Turkey.

United States (Ira Propaganda)

asked the Prime Minister if she will discuss with President Carter at their forthcoming meeting the anti-British campaign being organised by the Irish Republican Army in the United States, with a view to exposing the nature, financing and effect on relations between Great Britain and the United States of America, of this campaign.

In his statement of August 1977 President Carter called on all Americans to refrain from supporting, with financial or other aid, organisations directly or indirectly involved in violence. The agenda for my discussions with President Carter later this year has not yet been finalised. But I shall certainly be ready to explain the Government's policy on Northern Ireland to the President.

Hong Kong

asked the Prime Minister if she has received representations from elected members of the Hong Kong urban council calling for more democratic reform of the urban council; and if she will make a statement.

I received a letter from representatives of the elected members of the council asking me to meet a delegation. My hon. Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs saw the delegation yesterday on my behalf and discussed its proposals.

Paraffin

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the outcome of his review of price controls over premium paraffin.

[pursuant to his reply, 11 July 1979, c. 204–5]: Consequent on the vote in the House on 24 October, an Order in Council—SI 1979/1375—has been made which revokes the Paraffin (Maximum Retail Prices) (Revocation) Order 1979 (SI 1979/797) with effect from today, 31 October. However, in view of the importance of assuring paraffin supplies to those who need it I have today made an Order—SI 1979/1383—again revoking the Paraffin (Maximum Retail Prices) Order 1976 and the orders amending that order, also with effect from today. The House therefore has a further opportunity to consider whether paraffin retail prices should be controlled. In the meantime, paraffin retail prices remain uncontrolled.Copies of the Order in Council, SI 1979/1375, will be available to the House in due course. The further order, SI 1979/1383, is being laid before the House today.

Energy

"Plan For Coal"

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will indicate the current policy of the Government on "Plan for Coal" and on the future level of investment in the coal industry.

[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979]: The Government believe that a competitive and efficient coal industry has an important part to play in meeting future energy demand; and that the substantial investment in the coal industry initiated by "Plan for Coal" should therefore continue. The Government have approved a level of investment in 1980–81 which, at outturn prices, will be over £700 million.

Small Businesses (Purchasing Contracts)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what arrangements there are in his Department to ensure that small businesses receive a proportion of all purchasing contracts issued by his Department; and what proportion he expects this will be in 1979–80 and 1980–81.

[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979]: My Department's purchasing contracts are few in number and for relatively small amounts. Any special arrangements of the sort envisaged would not, therefore, be appropriate.

Ethyl Alcohol

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) what is the position of the draft EEC regulation covering ethyl alcohol; and whether he proposes to recommend deletion or amendments of article 8(3);(2) what is the cost of operating the scheme for the assistance of ethyl alcohol in £ sterling and the extent of benefit to British agriculture and the loss to the United Kingdom chemical industry.

I have been asked to reply.The EEC Commission's draft regulation for a common organisation of the market in agricultural alcohol is still under discussion at technical level in the Council of Agriculture Ministers. I have reservations about a number of the provisions, including article 8(3), but it would be premature to reach any conclusion about the possible costs and benefits to the United Kingdom of the proposal at this stage.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the volume of ethyl alcohol produced in the United Kingdom (a) from agricultural sources and (b) synthetically, together with the manufacturing cost of each and the energy required to produce a given quantity of the chemical.

I have been asked to reply.In 1978 United Kingdom manufacturers produced 519,885 h1 of agricultural ethyl alcohol and 2,963,006 h1 of synthetic ethyl alcohol—expressed as pure alcohol. Information on manufacturers' costs and energy inputs is not available.

Defence

Wind Tunnels

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will list the wind tunnels already operating in the United Kingdom in public and private ownership, indicating the capacity of each and the energy intake.

There are about 150 aeronautical wind tunnels operating in the United Kingdom in Government establishments, industry and universities. I am placing in the Library of the House a copy of the list of Commonwealth wind tunnels—CC740—produced in January 1977 by the Commonwealth advisory aeronautical research council, which includes the United Kingdom tunnels.The major wind tunnels operated by the Ministry of Defence, and their energy intakes, are:

RAE Farnborough
24 ft. diameter, sub-sonic1,500 Kilowatts
11½ ft. x 8½ ft., sub-sonic3,600 Kilowatts
4 ft. x 3 ft., sub-sonic150 Kilowatts
5 m. x 4·2 m., sub-sonic19,700 Kilowatts
8 ft. x 6 ft., transonic15,000 Kilawatts
RAE Bedford
13 ft. x 9 ft., sub-sonic1,115 Kilowatts
3 ft. x 3 ft. transonic and supersonic9,000 Kilowatts
8 ft. x 8 ft. subsonic and supersonic60,000 Kilowatts
Ministry of Defence
Wednesday 31st October 1979

asked the Secretary of State for Defence (1) when he expects the new transonic wind tunnel will be built in the United Kingdom; what is the anticipated cost; and where it will be located;(2) whether he is contemplating a European facility for wind tunnel development funded on an international basis.

European requirements for additional transonic wind tunnel facilities have been under consideration in NATO and preliminary studies of technical feasibility and options are currently in hand. No firm decisions have been taken, although we expect things to be clearer by the middle of next year. The Ministry of Defence has no plans itself to construct a new transonic wind tunnel.

Army (Recruitment)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether there is any correlation between frequency of tours of duty in Northern Ireland and the rate at which Service men are leaving the Forces; and whether the present rate of recruitment is sufficient to compensate for the number leaving the Army.

It is not possible to establish a direct correlation or to consider separately those departures from the Forces which may be influenced by periods of service in Northern Ireland from those brought about by many other factors. Wastage has reduced and recruiting has improved in recent months. The trained strength of the Army at the end of September 1979 showed a net increase of 638 male personnel over the strength at the end of August 1979.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Common Fisheries Policy

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether, in negotiations on the common fisheries policy, he is maintaining his predecessor's stand of refusing to agree to any settlement in different sections, such as quotas, conservation, and so on, in advance of the total package.

The Government continue to seek agreement on a revised common fishery policy which meets the Government's stated requirements on all aspects. I am in close touch with the industry and am aware of the priority it attaches to effective conservation as part of a satisfactory overall settlement. The Government are accordingly determined to ensure that whilst negotiations continue towards an overall settlement developments within the Community do not result in a reduction in the protection given to fish stocks by current United Kingdom conservation measures.

Hill Farming

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he proposes to increase hill livestock compensatory allowances; and, if so, to what figure in the case of (a) breeding cows and (b) hardy breeding ewes.

I intend to announce the outcome of the current review of the hill livestock compensatory allowances before the end of November.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he intends to announce any further assistance to the hill farmers.

The review of hill livestock compensatory allowances which I promised would be carried out this autumn is now in progress. I intend to announce the Government's decision before the end of November.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans his Department has to compensate the hill farming industry for the unusually heavy losses which that industry has sustained during the past year.

The review of hill livestock compensatory allowances is in progress and my right hon. Friend intends to announce the Government's decision before the end of November.

International Tea Agreement

asked the Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what is the Government's policy towards the proposal made by the secretariat of the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development and the Food and Agriculture Organisation for an international tea agreement;

(2) what steps are being taken by the Government to ensure the successful negotiation of an international tea agreement.

The Government are of the opinion that tea is a suitable commodity for an international commodity agreement. The UNCTAD secretariat is engaged on further necessary studies in preparation for the resumption of negotiations in Geneva early in December.

European Community (Council Of Agriculture Ministers)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the outcome of the Council of Agriculture and Fisheries Ministers meetings in Luxembourg on 29–30 October,

New Zealand Lamb (Imports)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what was the value of New Zealand lamb imports into the United Kingdom in 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978, and to the latest available date in the current year; and if he will make a statement;(2) what is his policy in relation to the import of lamb from New Zealand; and if he will make a statement.

The value of United Kingdom imports of New Zealand lamb in these years was as follows:

£'000 (cif)
1975114,896
1976120,624
1977150,483
1978162,985
1979 (January-August)125,240
YearIncomeExpenditureSurplus/Deficit
£££
1975–766,468,7719,571,588-3,102,817
1976–778,502,47510,752,104-2,249,629
1977–7812,262,91510,686,108+1,576,807
1978–7911,576,17510,972,504+603,671
1979–80Not yet available
Similar information relating to heavy goods vehicle driver testing is as follows:—

YearIncomeExpenditureSurplus/Deficit
£££
1975–76451,3551,668,500-1,217,145
1976–77972,0761,492,941-520,865
1977–781,299,1751,437,644-138,469
1978–791,517,8701,465,371+52,499
1979–80Not yet available

The United Kingdom also imports some mutton from New Zealand, worth £8,577,000 in 1978.

I have repeatedly made clear that we wish to maintain our trading links with New Zealand and to preserve our supplies of frozen lamb from that country. We will not agree to any arrangement for a common organisation for sheepmeat which does not respect the Community's GATT obligations or which fails to provide for unhindered access of adequate quantities of New Zealand lamb to the United Kingdom market.

Transport

Passenger Transport

asked the Minister of Transport if he will introduce legislation to seek to make passenger transport executives fully accountable to their respective local authorities, and establish transport committees with powers similar to other local committees.

Metropolitan county councils, as passenger transport authorities, already have wide statutory powers of control over their passenger transport executives. I have no immediate plans to amend the legislation, but I am prepared to consider the arguments.

Driving Tests

asked the Minister of Transport what has been the income from driving test fees and the expenditure relating to driving tests during 1976, 1977, 1978 and so far during the current year.

Regional Highway Traffic Model

asked the Minister of Transport what progress has been made with the implementation of the regional highway traffic model; and if he will make a statement.

Much of the material collected and developed as part of the regional highway traffic model project is already being used extensively by the Department and has been made available to local authorities. The future role in scheme assessment of the mathematical models developed as part of the project is being considered by the Department, in conjunction with the standing advisory committee on trunk road assessment. I understand that the committee hopes to report on this by the end of the year.

Transport Policy Programmes (1980–81)

asked the Minister of Transport if he will provide a table showing the bids made by each county in England in the revised finance forms of the 1980–81 transport policy programmes under the following headings: public transport capital, highways capital, traffic management, parking capital, other capital, total capital, maintenance, revenue support, other current spending, total current and total transport supplementary grant eligible expenditure.

I encourage counties to publish their transport policy programmes, but they are not statutory documents. It is for individual counties to decide whether to publish their bids.

Vehicle Registration Marks

asked the Minister of Transport if he will hold discussions with all the relevant interested parties on the prospects for discontinuing the end-of-numberplate year letter for motor vehicle registrations, once the current alphabet sequence terminates.

I am aware of the wide interest in registration marks. Before reaching decisions about their future format I shall consult interested organisations. If my hon. Friend wishes to make suggestions, I shall be glad to consider them.

Industry

Humberside (Fish Processing)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much money by way of grants has been provided to fish processors in the Humberside development area since that area was so designated.

In common with other food processing industries, fish processors in the assisted areas can qualify for regional development grants and regional selective assistance under parts I and II of the Industry Act 1972. Assistance may also be given by the EEC—FEOGA aid—and the White Fish Authority. I regret, however, that the total assistance given to fish processors in Humberside from any of these sources could only be obtained at disproportionate cost.

Advisory Development Bodies

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what proposals he has to reduce the number of industrial advisory and development bodies to which he appoints members; and what consideration he has given to transferring the patronage and cost of those that remain to the industries concerned.

Rolls-Royce (1971) Limited

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the financial duty of Rolls-Royce (1971) Ltd. for the coming financial year.

The NEB has been given the financial duty of conducting its activities in relation to Rolls-Royce Ltd. with the aim of securing by 1981 a rate of return of 10 per cent. on capital employed in Rolls-Royce Ltd., and a progressive increase thereafter. In the years prior to 1981 the board is to maintain progress towards the 10 per cent. objective.

Cambridge Instrument Company

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will publish in the Official Report the amount invested in the Cambridge Instrument Company by the National Enterprise Board, since 3 May, the number and type of shares now held, the percentage of the equity this represents and the cost to the National Enterprise Board of these shares.

The company is expected today to make a rights issue of £6·5 million. This issue is fully underwritten by the National Enterprise Board, but the Board's resultant holding will not be known for some time since it will depend upon the extent to which other shareholders take up their rights. Prior to this issue the Board had not invested in the company in the period since 3 May 1979, when its shareholding was as follows:

NumberCostEquity
£'000Per cent
Ordinary £1712,684,2558,02087·1
Ordinary 10p4,261,757
Ordinary 1p50,000,000500Non-equity

National Enterprise Board

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what were the total borrowings of the National Enterprise Board, as at 31 October, as defined in section I of the Industry Act 1979.

Talbot Limited

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will name the second director to be nominated to the board of Talbot Ltd.

I have nominated Mr. R. T. Kingdon to serve on the board of Talbot UK—formerly Chrysler UK—in place of the late Mr. Claude Birch and I am informed that he has been duly elected a director.

Post Office (Cash Limit)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether the interruption in telephone billing will necessitate any adjustment to the Post Office's cash limit in 1979–80.

The corporation currently estimates that delayed payments outstanding at 31 March 1980 as a result of the interruption in billing earlier this year will amount to around £400 million. It expects to recover these payments in the first few months of the new financial year. The amount involved is at present subject to some uncertainty. I have therefore agreed with the chairman that an appropriate adjustment will need to be made to this year's cash limit when the final figure is known. The cash limit for 1980–81 will also be correspondingly adjusted.

Regional Development Grant

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if it remains his intention to make statutory provision for the change in the minimum value requirements for assets on which regional development grants are payable.

In the debate on regional policy on 24 July I said that the increased minimum value requirements, which I announced on 17 July, would be brought into effect under my discretion and would be embodied in the Industry Bill. In fact, the requirements have been set by discretion since the commencement of the scheme in March 1972. The Industry Bill therefore does not include any provision in this respect.

Social Services

Petrol (Lead Additives)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the Government's attitude to the threat to health resulting from lead additives in petrol; and if he will make a statement.

The Government are concerned to obtain up-to-date expert advice on this matter. Accordingly, a working party was established at the end of 1978 to look into all aspects of the effect on human health of exposure to lead in the environment. Its report is awaited. In this respect I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Birmingham, Perry Barr (Mr. Rooker) on 23 October and to my right hon. Friend's reply to my hon. Friend, the Member for Bedford (Mr. Skeet) on 29 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 162; Vol. 972, c. 390.]

Family Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the minimum income of a man, his wife and two children, using the same assumptions in the reply given to the hon. Member for Norfolk North, Official Report, 25 July, columns 312–20 (a) when receiving unemployment benefit and (b) when entirely dependent on supplementary benefit; and if he will give details of the minimum income of a man in similar circumstances when at work earning £50, £70 and £90 per week, respectively.

The information requested is set out in the table below. It is based on current rates of benefit and relates to a married couple with two children aged 4 and 6. The assumptions made to arrive at the minimum net weekly spending power are as follows:

1. Housing costs—rent£6·50
rates£2·80
2. Work expenses£2·45
3. Child benefit£8·00
4. Means-tested benefits taken up in full but no family income supplement in payment when unemployed as payment period has run out.
5. Wife has no personal income (apart from child benefit) from earnings or social security benefits.
6. Entitlement to an earnings-related supplement, when unemployed, has ceased.
7. No tax allowances apart from personal allowances.
8. Income tax refunds not included.
The information relates only to the particular illustrative situations quoted and has no general applications and no validity if quoted out of context without stating the assumptions used.
Family CircumstancesNet Weekly Spending power
Unemployed and receiving:
(a) unemployment benefit£37·40
(b)supplementary benefit£37·15
Working and earning:
(a) £50£44·76
(b) £70£52·04
(c) £90£64·59

Benefit Claimants

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many claimants in recepit of unemployment benefit also receive supplementary benefit.

Children (Economic Circumstances)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will update the table given in answer to the hon. Member for Eton and Slough (Miss Lestor) Official Report, 26 October 1977, columns 755–6.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply to him on 25 October which contains the information required.—[Vol. 972, c. 305–10].

Population (Age Structure)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of the population is now aged over 65 years; and what that proportion is expected to be in 1990.

The information is as follows:

Percentage of the population aged 65 and over
Mid-1978 estimate15
Mid-1990 projection15
The percentages apply to England and Wales, Great Britain and the United Kingdom.

Benefit Recipients (Casual Work)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what advice is given to local offices regarding the payment of benefit during periods when casual seasonal work is available; whether it is the practice of local offices to direct calimants into potato harvesting under the threat of losing their benefit; and if he will make a statement.

In areas where it is established that regular seasonal work is readily available, special arrangements apply. Awards of supplementary benefit are made in the usual way, but suitable claimants are informed that they ought to be able to find work within a specified time—usually two to six weeks—and that, if they do not, they will be invited for interview at the local office. Benefit may then be withdrawn if it seems clear that no serious attempt has been made to find work.Where the available seasonal work is of very short duration—for example, potato harvesting—offices sometimes arrange special interviews with potentially suitable claimants as soon as work is known to be available locally. They are encouraged to take up this temporary employment, but not under the threat of automatically losing their benefit if they do not do so. Whether or not benefit is withdrawn would depend on the circumstances of each individual case.

Lost Working Days

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the number of working days lost in Great Britain in each of the last three years through (a) industrial action, (b) sickness and (c) accidents at work.

The following table gives working days lost by all workers at establishments where disputes occurred. Time lost at other establishments as a result of these stoppages is not included. Because of changes in the sampling procedure when the national insurance system changed in 1975, incapacity statistics are not available for 1975–76; 1974–75 figures are therefore included for comparison.

Great Britain
Days of certified incapacity for work*
YearSicknessAccidents at work and diseasesWorking days lost because of industrial disputes in progress during the year*
(1)(2)(3)(4)
MillionsMillionsMillions
1975309·815·35·7
1976Not available3·2
1977†353·715·09·9
1978‡387·515·69·1
* Figures in columns (2) and (3) are for all days in the statistical year ending in June. In column (4) figures are for the calendar year.
† Includes 32·2 million days for non-contributory invalidity pension (introduced in November 1975).
‡ Includes 34·5 million days for non-contributory invalidity pension (introduced in November 1975).

Alcoholics (Hostel Accommodation)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is the total of (a) capital and (b) revenue grants paid to voluntary organisations for the purpose of giving hostel places for alcoholics since the scheme began;(2) if he intends to continue the payment of grants to voluntary organisations to provide hostel places for alcoholics after 31 March 1980;(3) what is the estimated number of hostel places for alcoholics; how many are currently available; how many are planned; and what steps he proposes to take to increase the number.

Circular 21/73 "Community Services for Alcoholics" encouraged local authorities and voluntary organisations jointly to identify local needs rather than aim at some predetermined number of places. The Department is paying revenue grants for 59 hostels providing 672 places. Six more hostels with 70 places are planned—four of these have received capital grants; two applications are being considered. I am aware of five more hostels providing 37 places supported by local authorities.The total grants paid by the Department for five years on the express for alcoholics are:

CapitalRevenueTotal
£££
1973–7451,60662,703114,309
1974–75132,50588,035220,540
1975–76199,903102,934302,837
1976–77270,883188,033458,916
1977–78205,060263,219468,279
1978–79145,524318,116463,640
1979–80*150,000350,000500,000
Totals1,155,4811,373,0402,528,521
* Estimated.
The hostel grants scheme under circular 21/73 was a pump-priming arrangement for five years on the express understanding that, thereafter, the voluntary organisations would look to local authorities for any financial support needed to enable them to continue. The scheme was extended in May 1976 by a tapering arrangement to continue the revenue grant for each hostel for five years from its opening. In 1978 the scheme was further extended by two years to 31 March 1980 to allow time for review, so that new schemes could be accepted up to 31 March 1980 and payments, under the five-year rule, could extend, in some cases, into the financial year 1984–85. The outcome of the review will be announced when current consultations with the local authority organisations and representatives of voluntary organisations are completed. But no provision has been made to fund a further extension of the scheme and this could only be done at the expense of other priorities.

Children (Residential Care)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average cost of keeping a child in residential care in England and Wales at the present time.

The estimated average cost to local authorities in England and Wales in 1977–78 of maintaining a child in a community home or registered voluntary home was £90 a week. This figure includes capital charges, but excludes administration and field social work costs which cannot be allocated to specific services; no deduction has been made in respect of parental contributions.

Psychogeriatric Beds (Central Nottinghamshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what provision is being planned for psychogeriatric beds in the Central Nottinghamshire health district.

The capital programme for Nottinghamshire, which is now subject to local consultation, envisages that during the next 10 years additional

Rates per 1,000 population
Communication equipmentTV supply plus installation of licence plus radioPersonal aidsAdaptations to propertyNet households assistedPersons assisted with holidaysPopulation (thousands)
City of Manchester8·10·71·31·59·71·9489·3
Trafford2·00·114·12·88·90·3225·8
Cheshire1·405·90·46·60·1919·8

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give figures for the numbers of disabled registered in the City of Manchester, Trafford and Cheshire country, in the last three years for which figures are available; and if he will also indicate the total

Number of disabled
Deaf and hard of hearingGeneral classesBlindPartially sightedTotal population (thousands)TotalAs per cent. total population
City of Manchester:
197666022,1131,272913490·0024,9585·1
197764622,7901,309951491·625,6965·2
197860023,3381,3661,036489·326,3405·4
Trafford:
19761083,400387208227·54,1031·8
1977954,146401234227·34,8762·1
19782944,882387245225·85,8082·6
Cheshire:
19761,05812,8901,796687916·516,4311·8
19771,17714,0151,840713913·917,7451·9
19781,16516,2061,848763919·819,9822·2

Handicapped Persons (Post Office Services)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what discussions

beds will be provided for the elderly severely mentally infirm at New-stead hospital—40 beds in addition to the existing 56—at Hawtonville hospital—30 beds—and at King's Mill hospital—change of use of existing beds following completion of the early phases of the redevelopment of the hospital.

Disabled Persons (Manchester And Cheshire County)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give comparative figures, per thousand of the population, for the provision under section 2 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act of aids and other forms of help for disabled people in the City of Manchester, Trafford and Cheshire county in the last full year for which figures are available.

The figures for 1977–78 are as follows:population in each of the three local authorities, giving the figure for the number of disabled people as a percentage of the total.

The information is as follows:his Department has had with the Post Office Users' National Council concerning services to meet special needs of handicapped people; what recommendations his Department has made to the council and the Post Office; and if he will make a statement.

The Department is in regular contact with the council. Recent exchanges have concerned the continuing need for training of Post Office Staff about disability, access to post offices, parking problems and improvements in facilities, for example, telephone kiosks. As regards access, which has been the most important matter in issue, I have invited the council to get in touch with the committee on restrictions against disabled people and I have instructed officials of the Department to continue discussing possibilities with the council and the Post Office.

Departmental Annual Report

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to publish his Department's annual report for 1978.

After careful consideration I have decided to cease the preparation and publication of the Department's annual report as a contribution to the reduction of the Department's work and of Civil Service expenditure. I am considering whether some of the material already prepared for the 1978 report could be made available in some other way.

Hospital Service (Ormskirk)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made in developing links between the Sefton South community health council and the Moss Side and Park Lane hospitals.

Discussions have taken place between officials of the Sefton South CHC and the hospital management teams of Moss Side and Park Lane hospitals. As a result the CHC recently put forward a number of detailed proposals for closer links, which are currently being considered by the Department.

Charing Cross Hospital (Child Development Centre)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to give a substantive reply to the questions of the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, relating to the threatened closure of the child development centre at Charing Cross hospital, which were tabled for priority written answer on 24 October.

Departmental Investigators (Binoculars)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) on whose authority binoculars were issued to social security investigators; how many have been issued; what was their total cost; by whom they are being used and for what purpose; and if there are any guidelines as to their use;(2) if he will prohibit the use of binoculars by social service officers to observe social security claimants.

The Department seeks to investigate social security fraud as effectively and economically as possible, and to provide whatever facilities are needed for this purpose. The binoculars to which the hon. Member refers were issued as part of the process of improving the Department's counter-measures against fraud. One element in the six-point action plan which was announced by the right hon. Member for Salford, West (Mr. Orme) on 29 July 1976 was training the specialists in the best techniques of fraud investigation and providing the facilities they need to do a good job. Two pairs of binoculars have been issued to a nominated officer in each of the Department's 12 regional office fraud sections. The total cost was £503. The binoculars are for the use of the Department's 510—September 1979—special investigators as occasion demands. Their purpose is of course to assist in identification where close observation is impracticable, for example in the case of someone suspected of working in an itinerant agricultural gang or on a building site while claiming benefit as an unemployed person. Each regional office has been left to determine the precise allocation and use of its binoculars, in the light of the managerial control which it exercises over all special investigation.I have no intention of prohibiting the use of binoculars for this desirable and properly controlled purpose.

Alcoholism

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what estimate he has made of the number of alcoholics in the United Kingdom; and what information he has on the estimated totals 10 and 20 years previously, respectively.

[pursuant to his reply, 19 July 1979, c. 829]: There is no completely agreed definition of alcoholics, but a measurement which has been regarded by the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys (OPCS) as giving a broad indication of prevalence, and which gives a useful guide to trends over time, is based on the number of deaths from cirrhosis of the liver. The figures below are derived from the number of such deaths, adjusted to take account of the proportion of deaths from cirrhosis not caused by alcohol, and the evidence about the proportion of alcoholics found to suffer from alcohol-induced cirrhosis. On this basis the estimate by OPCS is as follows:

Estimated Number of Alcoholics in the United Kingdom
1957490,000
1967540,000
1977740,000

European Community

Lomé Convention

39.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what further discussions he has had with the African, Caribbean and Pacific countries on the renegotiation of the Lomé convention.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply my hon. Friend gave to the hon. Member for Newham, South (Mr. Spearing) on 26 October. The new EECACP convention was due to be signed in Lomé this morning.

Commissioners (Expenses)

40.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what was the total sum paid as expense allowances to EEC Commissioners in 1978.

In 1978 Commissioners were reimbursed entertainment and representational expenditure of £154,249—at the average rate of exchange for the year—and received representational allowances of £49,013. Mission expenses, duty travel expenses and incidental expenditure cost £444,819.

Budget Contributions

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will place on the agenda at the next meeting of EEC Foreign Ministers the matter of the relative financial contributions of the member States.

The subject of Community budget contributions will be considered by the November Foreign Affairs Council as part of its review of preparations for the European Council later in the same month.

Czechoslovakia (Charter 77 Group)

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will initiate discussions in the appropriate international forum on the apparent infringements by the Czechoslovak Republic of article 14 of the international covenant on civil and political rights in respect of the arrest and forthcoming trial of members of the Charter 77 group, and of the reluctance of that Government to admit foreign observers.

The United Nations Human Rights Commission will not meet until February 1980, but it is possible that other suitable opportunities to discuss the matter at international meetings may arise. Ministers have already made clear to the Czechoslovak authorities that the Government share the widespread revulsion about the treatment of supporters of the Charter 77 movement in Czechoslovakia, and the member countries of the European Community collectively have also made their deep feelings known. The Government deplore the sentences passed on 23 October on six signatories of the charter, and consider the actions of the Czechoslovak authorities inconsistent with their obligations under the United Nations covenant on civil and political rights, and with the provisions of the Final Act of the conference on security and co-operation in Europe.

Scotland

Local Authorities (Disabled Employees)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish the percentage employment quota for the registered disabled for each local authority in Scotland.

The percentage employment quota for the registered disabled in local authorities is the same—3 per cent.—as for other employers. Quota compliance figures for public sector employers—including the Scottish local authorities—are published annually in the Department of Employment Gazette. The information for 1979 is expected to be published in the November edition.

Glenochil Young Offenders' Institution

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total number of young offenders who have attended Glenochil detention centre; and how many of them, after their release, have committed further crimes.

Between July 1966 and the end of 1978 12,388 youths were received into Glenochil detention centre. No detailed figures are available showing how many of these, after their release, have committed further crimes. It is, however, known that about 20 per cent. of those who leave detention centres receive further custodial sentences, or are recalled to custody, within a year of liberation; that is while they are still under statutory supervision.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many complaints of assault have been received from young people detained in Glenochil detention centre; and what was the result of the investigations of those complaints.

Since the detention centre opened in 1966 five cases of assaults on inmates have been reported. Three of these related to reports of assaults by other inmates and two were reported assaults by members of staff. Of the assaults by other inmates, one was disposed of by the Governor, when the inmate lost seven days' remission of sentence: the other two were reported to the police, and subsequently prosecuted, when both inmates were admonished. Both cases involving allegations of assault against inmates by members of staff were referred to the police. One case went to court where there was a verdict of not guilty and the other was not proceeded with because the evidence was insufficient.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many deaths have occurred of young people in Glenochil detention centre; and what was the cause of death in each case.

Since the detention centre opened in 1966 one inmate has died while in custody. This was in 1967 and the cause of death was acute diabetes.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what evidence he has that the treatment of young offenders in Glenochil detention centre is more successful than other forms of treatment of young offenders.

There is no detailed statistical evidence to prove or disprove how successful the general and individual deterrent effect of detention centre training at Glenochil might be. The Government are, however, most firmly of the view that the type of regime at the Glenochil detention centre, with its accent on discipline, attainment and self-respect, has beneficial effects on the youths who experience it.

Health Service And Social Work Projects (Support Funding)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether a statutory instrument on support funding for joint Health Service and social work projects has been put to him for signature; whether he has signed this statutory instrument, and if he will give the reasons for any action taken.

The answer to the first part of the question is "No". Therefore, the other parts of the question do not arise. I am, however, currently examining the possibilities.

Medical Staff (Clegg Commission Award)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to receive the Clegg Commission award to medical staff; and what additional finance will be available to health boards to meet the cost involved.

No reference has been made to the Clegg Commission on medical staff. I understand that the Commission expects to report to my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister at the end of this year on nurses and midwives' pay, and on the professions supplementary to medicine shortly afterwards. As regards meeting any cost, I refer the hon. Member to

Health BoardAverage Available Staffed Beds (i) (year to Sept. 78)Average Available Staffed Beds per 1,000 population
Argyll and Clyde1,5073·3
Ayrshire and Arran7792·1
Borders3213·2
Dumfries and Galloway8926·2
Fife8392·4
Forth Valley9253·4
Grampian (iii)1,5903·2
Greater Glasgow4,1744·0
Highland (iii)8934·1
Lanarkshire1,7543·1
Lothian2,2042·9
Tayside1,6914·2
Scotland17,576(ii)3·4
Note
(i) The figures above are for mental illness, psycho-geriatric, child psychiatry and adolescent psychiatry beds.
(ii) Scotland total does not equal sum of constituent parts due to rounding.
(iii) Psychiatric beds are provided by the Highland health board for the Western Isles and by Grampian health board for Orkney and Shetland.

Perinatal And Infant Mortality

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the perinatal and infant mortality rates for Scotland in 1977 for illegitimate children.

The perinatal and infant mortality rates for illegitimate births in Scotland in 1977 were 29·6 per 1,000 total births, live and still, and 27·0 per 1,000 live births, respectively.

Hunterston B Reactors

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the cost to date to Scottish taxpayers of the repairs, maintenance and staff wages relating to the Hunterston B reactor, not including provision of electricity by alternative means.

No payments have been made by the taxpayer towards the cost of repairing or running the Hunterston B reactors, bunt it is possible that a the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services on 25 May.—[Vol. 967, c. 326]

Mental Illness Beds

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the current level of provision of mental illness beds in each health board area; and what this represents per 1,000 of the population.

The information is as follows:liability to contribute some £3 million to £4 million towards the costs of repairing the reactor following the ingress of seawater in October 1977 could in due course be established.

Radioactive Waste

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) how much Scottish taxpayers have paid per annum for each year of the radioactive waste disposal research programme since its inception;(2) how much the Scottish Office is contracted to pay the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority for Scotland's share in the radioactive waste disposal research programme (

a) since 1975 and ( b) till the current programme expires.

Prior to the 1978–79 financial year the radioactive waste management research programme was the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Energy. Since then the programme has been funded on behalf of environmental Ministers by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment. No question of a separate Scottish payment, or the Scottish taxpayers' contribution to it, arises.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much radioactive waste is produced per annum in Scotland under the present nuclear programme; and how much is low-level, how much medium-level and how much high-level.

The production of radioactive waste varies from year to year, but

WASTE ARISINGS AT NUCLEAR SITES IN SCOTLAND IN 1978
Origin and typeLow curiesWaste category Medium cubic metresHigh
UKAEA Dounreay
Solid8·89Nil
Liquid494NilNil
Gaseous600*NilNil
BNF Ltd. Chapelcross
Solid3·5N.A.‡Nil
Liquid100NilNil
Gaseous32,000†NilNil
SSEB Hunterston
SolidLess than 60110Nil
Liquid2,400§NilNil
Gaseous24,500†NilNil
* Mainly neon 23 of half life 38 seconds.
† Gaseous waste contains mainly Argon 41.
‡ Detailed information not available but volume is small.
§ The liquid waste contains about 2,300 curies of tritium.

Low-Level Radiation

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the share of Scottish taxpayers per annum in the public financing of the research into the effect of low-level radiation on health.

Research into the effect of radiation on health is undertaken on a United Kingdom basis notably by the National Radiological Protection Board—NRPB—and the Medical Research Council—MRC. The Scottish Home and Health Department is contributing nearly £200,000 to the running costs of the NRPB in the current financial year; but the MRC is funded by the Department of Education and Science. It is not possible to identify separately the contribution of Scottish taxpayers to the United Kingdom expenditure on this research.

Scottish Health Boards

the quantities of radioactive waste produced at nuclear sites in Scotland during 1978 are shown in the following table. I refer the hon. Member to the "Annual Survey of Radioactive Discharges in Great Britain 1976–1977", published by the Department of the Environment in 1978.

The low-level wastes shown are disposed to the environment in accordance with the terms of authorisations issued under the provisions of the Radioactive Substances Act 1960. Medium level wastes are generally stored on site.

need to reduce public expenditure on the National Health Service administration, he does not propose to abolish the Scottish health boards.

We will shortly, in response to the report of the Royal Commission on the National Health Service, be issuing a consultative document on the structure, administration and management of the Health Service in Scotland. Thereafter, we will consider what changes should be made to improve health service administration and contain public expenditure.

Hill Livestock Compensatory Allowances

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he is taking to secure an increase in hill livestock compensatory allowances.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeenshire, East (Mr. McQuarrie) on 24 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 183.]

Member's Correspondence

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the dates on which he received letters from the hon. Member for South Ayrshire during the Summer Recess, the topic of each

Date of LetterTopicWhether reply sent
8 August 1979Publication of Programme Planning Group Report on Services for the Elderly in Scotland.Yes
11 August 1979Salary increases for staff at senior level of New Town Development Corporations.Yes
15 August 1979Keep Warm this Winter ProjectYes
22 August 1979Children's Hearings and Police Practices and concerning two individuals.Yes
23 August 1979All-party talks on government of ScotlandYes
3 September 1979Appeal by UKAEA against planning decision on Kyle and Carrick District Council.Yes
5 September 1979Urban Aid SchemeYes
19 September 1979*Regulations concerning signing in of visitors to ClubsYes
19 September 1979Further letter on appeal by UKAEA against decision of Kyle and Carrick District Council.Yes
24 September 1979Conduct of Children's Panel ReporterYes
15 October 1979*UKAEA appeal as aboveYes
* Letters to Minister for Home Affairs and the Environment at the Scottish Office.
In each case a substantive reply has been sent as soon as full consideration has been given to the matter, including, where appropriate, discussions with other Departments or public bodies.

Education Authorities (Careers Officers)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will detail in the Official Report the establishments of each of the education authorities in Scotland in respect of careers officers, along with the actual numbers of qualified careers officers in post at 30 September.

The information is as follows:

RegionEstablishment at 30.9.79No. Qualified in post at 30.9.79
Borders53
Central154
Dumfries & Galloway107
Fire2622
Grampian2414
Highland128
Lothian4935
Argyll/Dunbarton2217
Ayrshire2214
Glasgow4834
Lanarkshire3026
Renfrewshire2319
Tayside2110
Orkney11
Shetland11
Western Isles21
The apparent deficiencies shown above are largely offset by the employment of unqualified careers officers.

letter and whether replies have been sent; and if he will explain the reason for delays in replying to correspondence from the hon. Member.

Environment

Development Commission

51.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much of the Development Commission's expenditure is administered by the Council for Small Industries in Rural Areas; and whether the disbursement of the balance justifies the cost of administration of two such bodies.

The Commission's estimated expenditure for 1979–80 is £18·675 million, of which it is estimated £12·3 million will be administered by the Council for Small Industries in Rural Areas. The functions of both bodies are to be reviewed by an inter-departmental group of officials.

Rent Rebates

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what steps he has taken to draw to the attenton of local authorities the eligibility for rent rebates of persons residing in local authority hostels; and if he will make a statement.

Further to my answer of 25 July to my hon. Friend, I am now advised that while many residents in local authority hostels are likely to be eligible for rent rebates by virute of section 18 of the Housing Finance Act, there may be some hostel occupants who are not eligible—[Vol. 971, c. 323–24.] I have already undertaken to draw the attention of the local authority associations to the rules governing eligibility for rent allowance. In doing so I shall draw attention also to the provisions of section 18 of the 1972 Act in so far as people in local authority hostels are concerned.

Housing Survey (Hexhamshire)

52.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the purpose and cost of the housing survey being carried out in Hexhamshire and elsewhere on behalf of his Department by interviewers working for a consortium of five survey research firms; and whether he will make a statement.

The national dwelling and housing survey is intended to provide up-to-date statistics on a range of housing matters to form a basis for current and future housing policy, and to distribute Government grants to local authorities fairly. The third and final phase of the survey was approved by the previous Administration in December 1978 and was well under way when we came into office in May. If we had cancelled this third phase, which costs approximately £2 million, a considerable proportion of this sum would have been wasted. We would not let future surveys of this type and scale go ahead unless we were convinced that they were fully justified on financial and policy grounds.

Somerset House

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to make a decision as to the future use of Somerset House, with particular reference to the prospect of fulfilling Turner's bequest.

I have already expressed the view that Somerset House should become the home of a major art collection. I hope to make an announcement shortly when I have concluded discussions with my right hon. Friend the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster.

Nuclear Waste

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what sums are now being spent annually on research in the United Kingdom into the disposal of nuclear waste; and if he will make a statement.

The Secretary of State for the Environment funds a United Kingdom programme of radioactive waste management research. The cost of the programme in the financial year 1978–79 was £3·3 million and is expected to be £5 million in 1979–80. Some of this expenditure relates to programmes jointly funded with the EEC, which contributed an additional £0·5 million in 1978–79. The United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority, British Nuclear Fuels Ltd. and the electricity industry also have substantial research programmes on radioactive waste management.

Councillor Irvine Patnick

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report details of the relevant qualifications and experience of Councillor Irvine Patnick, recently appointed by him as chairman of the Yorkshire and Humberside regional sports council.

Biographical details of Councillor Patnick are given below.A business man and presently leader of the opposition on South Yorkshire county council, he has been a member of Sheffield city council since 1967 and has served on various committees. Until recently he was the shadow chairman of the recreation, culture and health committee of the county council.

Fluoridation

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will undertake not to introduce any legislative proposals to require water authorities to add fluoride to domestic water supplies.

No. The Government are considering this issue in the context of the report of the Royal Commission on the National Health Service.

Housing Waiting Lists (Transfers)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress has been made towards introducing a mobility scheme enabling tenants to transfer to local authority housing waiting lists outside their present places of residence; and whether he will make a statement.

Proposals for improving mobility within public sector housing are contained in paragraph 33 of the tenants' charter consultation paper issued on 15 October, a copy of which has been placed in the Library of the House.

Dogs

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when the Government are likely to conclude their study of the report on the working party on dogs; and when proposals will be produced.

Qualifying income as percentage of average weekly gross earnings*of male manual workers
Assumed unrebated weekly rent (£)†Single personMarried coupleMarried couple with two childrenMarried couple with four children
Rent Rebates
October 19723·20586985100
October 19733·70678094109
October 19743·80627590104
November 19754·40597489104
November 19765·10597490106
November 19775·60607592109
November 19785·90567186102
November 1979‡Not available
Rent Allowances
October 19734·907790105119
October 19745·507487102117
November 19755·90688298113
November 19766·60678298114
November 19777·206883100116
November 19788·30668197112
November 1979‡Not available
Assumed unrebated weekly rates (£)Rate Rebates
October 19741·30617589104
November 19751·80647894109
November 19761·90627692108
November 19772·20647996112
November 19782·40597490105
November 1979‡Not available
* Figures for gross earnings are only available for male manual workers. They are not classified by household/family size. (Source: Department of Employment Gazette). Estimates of net earnings are not available.
† The assumed rent for rent rebates is the mean unrebated Council rent; the assumed rent for rent allowances is the mean registered rent for private tenants in unfurnished accommodation; the assumed rates for rate rebates are the mean unrebated rates. (Sources: Housing and construction statistics and family expenditure survey).
‡ Estimates of earnings for November 1979 are not available.

Home Improvement

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what estimate he has made of the number of home improvement applications which fail as a result of

Rent And Rate Rebates

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the qualifying levels for rent and rate rebates and for rent allowances, as a percentage of (a) gross and (b) net average earnings, for a single person, a married couple, and married couples with two and four children, and for each relevant year since 1970, including an estimate for November.

The available information is as follows:the applicants being unable to raise their share of the total cost of the work involved; and if he will make a statement.

Individuals may decide not to proceed with their grant applications for numerous reasons, and I have no statistics which would enable me to estimate the number which fail for the particular reason referred to.I have today issued a consultation paper outlining changes to the system of house renovation grants which are proposed for inclusion in the forthcoming housing Bill. Some of the changes are specifically designed to make it easier for those on small incomes to benefit from the grant system. Copies of the paper are available in the Library.

Brent (Mayoral Car)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on the basis of what information he stated in the Official Report, 24 October, column 464, that Brent's mayoral car had been sold to a Socialist sympathiser.

The Willesden and Brent Chronicle of 5 October 1979 included a reference to an offer for the car from

"a socialist and a former Labour candidate".
However, I understand that the mayor is still being driven in the vehicle.

Craft Museum (Prescot)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will support the application of Knowsley council for a grant from the European Economic Community regional development fund for the establishment of a craft museum in Prescot.

No. In order to be eligible for aid from the European regional development fund projects of this type must make a significant contribution to the development of the local tourist industry. The Prescot museum project does not adequately satisfy this criterion.

Rate Support Grant

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion of the estimated expenditure of each London borough council was met by the needs and resources element of the rate support grant in 1978–79; what are the comparable figures for 1979–80; and what are the comparable figures for each shire county, taking the figures for districts in each county together with that of the shire county.

The proportion of the estimated expenditure of London boroughs and shire counties met by the needs and resources elements of the rate support grant can be derived from material included in the annual publications of the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy for the years 1978–79 and 1979–80.

Council Tenants (Rents)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total amount collected in rents from council tenants throughout England and Wales in the last financial year.

The total amount of gross rent income included in local authorities' housing revenue accounts in England and Wales in the financial year 1978–79 was £1,600 million. Of this, £1,240 million was received from HRA tenants, and the remaining £360 million was covered by rent rebates. These figures are provisional estimates only.

Local Authorities (Housing Budgets)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much of local authorities' housing budgets are used to run (a) a rent collection service, (b) a repairs and maintenance service, and (c) a rent rebate service.

During the financial year 1978–79 it is estimated that, in local authorities' housing revenue accounts in England and Wales:

  • (a) £70 million was spent on rent collection and accounting—excluding the cost of administering the rent rebate scheme;
  • (b) £590 million was spent on repairs and maintenance;
  • (c) £9 million was spent on administering the rent rebate scheme.
  • Local Authority (Housing Budgets)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many persons have taken advantage of the Home Purchase Assistance and Housing Corporation Guarantee Act; and how much money has been made available under the terms of the scheme.

    From information available it is estimated that about 55,000 people have enrolled since the scheme was launched on 1 December 1978. Benefits are payable from 1 December 1980 onwards.

    Council Housing (Interest Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total annual debt occasioned by interest charges on council housing.

    The total debt outstanding in respect of council housing for England and Wales at 31 March 1978 was £16,008 million.

    Improvement Grants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many homes have been improved with the aid of improvement grants in the past 12 months; and if he will make a statement.

    It is estimated that house renovation grants were paid for the conversion, improvement or repair of 60,900 private dwellings in England in the 12 months ending 30 June 1979.

    Free Enterprise Zone

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he intends to set up the first free enterprise zone.

    Third London Airport

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why the study group set up to select sites for the proposed third London airport did not include a representative of the Nature Conservancy Council; why the Council was not consulted in time for its members to submit detailed ecological information; and at what stage before making a final decision he proposes inviting a submission from the Council.

    I have been asked to reply.The membership and terms of reference of the study group were established by the previous Government. I understand that in preparing its report the study group has taken account of some material made available to it by the Nature Conservancy Council. The Government will consider any further information provided by the Council.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Indonesia

    3.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on British relations with Indonesia.

    Relations with Indonesia are good. The Indonesian President and Madame Soeharto will pay a State visit to Britain from 13 to 16 November. Indonesia is an influential member of the Association of South-East Asian Nations, which we support.

    New Hebrides

    10.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal when he intends to visit Port Vila in the New Hebrides.

    My right hon. Friend has no plans at present to visit the New Hebrides. Together with the responsible French Minister, I visited Vila in September to attend a New Hebrides constitutional conference.

    Helsinki Agreement

    12.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he is satisfied with the extent to which those provisions of the Helsinki Agreement relating to freedom of religion are being observed by signatories to the agreement.

    While the observance of these provisions is generally satisfactory, we deplore the obstacles placed in the way of religious believers who wish to practise their faiths in the Soviet Union and certain Eastern European countries. We shall not hesitate to make clear in our contacts with the Governments concerned the importance we attach to the full implementation of all aspects of the Helsinki Final Act, including its provisions on freedom of religion.

    Rhodesia

    16.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what representations Her Majesty's Government have received from the United Nations Organisation, the Commonwealth Secretariat and national Governments regarding recognition of the new regime in Zimbabwe-Rhodesia.

    At the constitutional conference at Lancaster House Her Majesty's Government are working for a settlement which will enable us to bring Rhodesia to legal independence amid wide international recognition. We are in constant contact with representatives of these bodies over the progress of the conference.

    17.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on the progress of the negotiations concerning Zimbabwe-Rhodesia.

    23.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement regarding progress in the Zimbabwe-Rhodesia talks taking place at Lancaster House.

    I refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Member to the answer I gave my hon. Friend, the Member for Bromsgrove and Redditch (Mr. Miller).

    19.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Scunthorpe (Mr. Brown).

    24.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal, in the context of his policy to lift sanctions against Rhodesia as soon as practicable, if he will define the word "practicable".

    The exact moment of lifting sanctions will depend on progress at the constitutional conference.

    Turkish Ambassador

    18.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what plans he has to meet the Turkish Ambassador to the United Kingdom.

    None. But I last met the Turkish Ambassador a week ago and am always pleased to see him.

    Gibraltar

    20.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on his visit to Gibraltar; and what were the results of his discussions with the Government of Gibraltar or the Ministers he met during his visit.

    I have nothing to add to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice (Mr. Wall) of 25 July—[Vol. 971, c. 257.]—in which I referred to having a number of useful meetings with the Chief Minister and with other leading representatives of opinion, reaffirmed the Government's firm commitment to the people of Gibraltar, and stressed that it was essential that the restriction against Gibraltar should be brought to an end. I confirmed that we would be seeking a way forward in close co-operation with the Gibraltar Government and in dialogue with the Government of Spain.

    Defence Capability

    21.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what initiatives he is taking to secure a comprehensive test ban and also mutual force reductions.

    We and our allies in the MBFR negotiations have put forward proposals to resolve the discrepancy between Eastern and Western figures of Warsaw Pact troops in Central Europe. We continue to press for a constructive response. In the CTB negotiations we are seeking to agree the detailed verification provisions of a nuclear test ban.

    Vietnamese Refugees

    22.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal how many Vietamese "boat people" have reached the colony of Hong Kong in the past three months; and if he will make a statement.

    The numbers are as follows:August: 3,247.September: 2,581.The first three weeks of October: 544.The total number of refugees in Hong Kong on 22 October was 64,107.

    United States Of America

    25.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he is satisfied with the work of the British information services in the United States of America.

    South Africa (Foreign Minister)

    26.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on his recent talks with the South African Foreign Minister.

    Mr. Pik Botha passed through London on 17 October and calls were arranged at his own request. He was received by my right hon. and noble Friend and my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister. Various matters of concern to South Africa, including Rhodesia, were discussed.

    Advisory Committee On Rhodesian Travel Restrictions

    27.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal when he proposes to wind up the advisory committee on Rhodesian travel restrictions.

    The advisory committee on Rhodesian travel restrictions, which was set up to advise on the administration of policy in this field, including measures under article 12 of the Southern Rhodesia (UN sanctions) Order 1968, will have completed its task as soon as sanctions are lifted.

    Hong Kong

    28.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will publish in the Official Report the names of Members of Parliament who have visited Hong Kong at the invitation of the Hong Kong authorities during the past five years.

    • Sir Paul Bryan, MP
    • Mr. Charles Fletcher-Cooke, QC, MP
    • Mr. Evan Luard
    • Mr. Michael McGuire, MP
    • Hon. C. A. Morrison, MP
    • Mr. Christopher Tugendhat

    1976:

    • Mr Kenneth Baker, MP
    • Mr. Raymond Fletcher, MP
    • Mr. Peter Hardy, MP
    • Mr. Norman Lamont, MP
    • Mr. Richard C. Mitchell, MP
    • Mr. Mike Thomas, MP

    1977:

    • Mr. John Cartwright, MP
    • Mr. Paul Channon, MP
    • Mr. Bryan Davies
    • Rt. Hon. David Howell, MP
    • Rt. Hon. John Nott, MP
    • Mr. Ken Weetch, MP
    • Mr. Ian Wrigglesworth, MP

    1978:

    • Mr. Peter Hardy, MP
    • Mr. Richard Luce, MP
    • Mr. John F. H. Roper, MP
    • Rt. Hon. Norman St. John-Stevas, MP
    • Mr. Jack Ashley, MP

    1979:

    • Mr. Nigel Lawson, MP
    • Rt. Hon. Alfred Morris, MP
    • Mr. Peter Morrison, MP
    • Mr. Christopher Patten, MP
    • Mr. E. Rowlands, MP
    • Mr. Ian Wrigglesworth, MP

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what objections he has received from the People's Republic of China towards social progress in the fields of housing, welfare, education, labour and civil rights in Hong Kong, particularly in the New Territories.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if he is satisfied with the attempts of the Governor of Hong Kong to stamp out corruption in the public service in Hong Kong.

    Yes. Syndicated corruption has virtually been eradicated in Hong Kong, but the Governor is determined that this should not lead to complacency. The fight against all forms of corruption is being pursued vigorously.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what objections there have been from the People's Republic of China towards the demand for a reform of the Hong Kong urban council.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if it is the policy of the Governor of Hong Kong or Government officials to reply to representations made by hon. Members of this House.

    Yes. The Governor and Hong Kong Government officials always reply to questions properly addressed to them.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the total amount spent by the Hong Kong Government on sponsoring trips for Members of the Hong Kong Government, including air fares, hotel and other expenditure, over the past five years to the latest available date.

    The total amount spent by the Hong Kong Government from 1 April 1974 to date is Hong Kong dollars 549,071.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal if consideration has been given by the Hong Kong Government to representations for a reform of the urban council; and what conclusions he has reached on the desirability of increasing its powers.

    Yes. The powers of the urban council are primarily a matter for the Hong Kong Government.

    asked the Lord Privy Seal (1) if he has received representations from elected members of the Hong Kong urban council calling for the abolition of appointed members; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he will meet a delegation of elected members of the Hong Kong urban council now on a visit to the United Kingdom to discuss the democratic reform of the urban council.

    Guyana

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what was the result of the review of Great Britain's relations with Guyana which was initiated by the Foreign Office earlier in the year; and if he will make a statement of the present state of British-Guyanan relations.

    Given the great importance we attach in our relations with other countries to the maintenance of democratic institutions, we are watching events in Guyana closely.

    Rhodesia (Conference)

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what has been the cost to date of the Lancaster House conference on Zimbabwe-Rhodesia.

    Up to today the costs of the Lancaster House conference, excluding police charges, are estimated at £358,000, of which £316,000 will be borne by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, £40,000 by Property Services Agency and £2,000 by Government hospitality fund.

    Civil Service

    St John's House, Bootle

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he intends to use St. John's House, Bootle, for any of the Government Departments whose dispersal building programmes have been cancelled.

    Consideration is still being given to the best use for St. John's House, Bootle. Final decisions have yet to be taken.

    Departmental Establishment

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will publish in the Official Report the total establishment and the number of civil servants in post, at 3 May and at 1 October, for each of the following Departments: Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, Civil Service, Ministry of Defence, Education and Science, Employment, Energy, Environment, Transport, Foreign and Commonwealth Office, Health and Social Security, Home Office, Industry, Trade, Scottish Office, Welsh Office, Northern Ireland Office, Her Majesty's Treasury and the Paymaster General's Department.

    Main Estimates show, annually, the number of permanent staff at 1 April for whom provision is made.Information on the number of civil servants in post is normally produced quarterly and shows the position at 1 January, 1 April, 1 July and 1 October annually. Details of the position at 3 May 1979 are not held centrally. The table below shows the original provision for permanent staff in Main Estimates 1979–80 at 1 April 1979, and the staff in post in the Departments mentioned at 1 April and 1 July 1979. The staff in post figures for 1 October 1979 should

    Main estimates 1979–80 permanent staffStaff-in-Post
    Department1 April 19791 April 19791 July 1979
    Agriculture, Fisheries and Food14,20013,95613,864
    Civil Service Department5,3625,0435,047
    Ministry of Defence225,104224,697222,898
    Education and Science2,7362,6772,649
    Department of Employment Group54,75453,60552,597
    Department of Energy1,3401,2671,257
    Department of Environment Group53,09152,45351,567
    Department of Transport14,56713,90813,698
    Foreign and Commonwealth Office10,0049,7779,703
    Department of Health and Social Security98,11998,36997,539
    Home Office34,72833,49033,490
    Department of Industry9,5759,5149,428
    Department of Trade7,4697,3087,499
    Scottish Office11,22010,94610,822
    Welsh Office2,6872,6072,595
    Northern Ireland Office261216209
    HM Treasury1,1341,0561,028
    Paymaster General's Office892873868
    547,243541,762536,758

    be available shortly and I shall let my hon. Friend have that information as soon as possible.