Written Answers To Questions
Thursday 1 November 1979
Home Department
Immigration (Marriage Rules)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on his policy that marriage between parties who do not know each other, or as a means of gaining entry to the United Kingdom, should not necessarily confer right of residence, in order to make clear who may, and who may not, enter the United Kingdom on marriage or as a fiancé.
A White Paper containing proposals for a revision of the immigration rules will be published shortly. Under these proposals a husband or fiancé will not be allowed to settle in the United Kingdom if the primary purpose of the marriage is to obtain admission to this country, or if one of the parties does not intend that the couple should live together permanently as man and wife, or if the parties have not met. In other cases the man will have no claim to settle here, but may be allowed to do so if the woman is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by birth in the United Kingdom.It is certainly not my intention to keep out of the United Kingdom the husband or fiancé of a woman who was born in this country and who has contracted or is about to contract a genuine marriage. Nor have I overlooked the fact that girls will have been born abroad because their United Kingdom-born parents were temporarily out of the country at the time of their birth. It will be my intention to consider such cases sympathetically for favourable treatment outside the rules.
Kew Bail Hostel
59.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the concern expressed by local residents regarding proposals to extend the use of facilities at the Kew bail hostel, and that such action will be in breach of assurances given by the probation service at the public inquiry, he will instruct the probation service that it should restrict the use of the bail hostel to the limits agreed when the original assurances were given to local residents.
This is a matter for the South-West London probation and aftercare committee, which is entirely responsible for the management of the hostel.
Citizenship Applications
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the number of civil servants working on applications for citizenship; what were the numbers at comparable dates in 1977 and 1978; why there are delays in processing applicants; and what notification of the reasons for delays is given on form N428 issued to applicants.
At the end of October 1979 there were 194 staff in the Home Office nationality division; in the same month in 1977 and 1978 the figures were 186 and 190 respectively. Delays in processing applications for citizenship arise mainly because substantial increases in the numbers of applications for citizenship over the last two years have coincided with a period of restraint on Civil Service resources and manpower. The leaflet N428 explains this.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the average time taken to process applications for citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies; and what was the average time in 1974, 1969 and 1964, respectively.
Applications for citizenship are of different types, some needing more inquiries and consideration than others. The average length of time is about 15 to 16 months, but some applications take considerably longer, and many of the more straightforward ones are dealt with in six to nine months. Comparable figures for 1974, 1969 and 1964 are not available.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he began the practice of returning immediately the passports of applicants for citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies because of the long waiting time in dealing with such applications, and when he expects to end this practice.
30 July 1979. I do not at present foresee an end to this practice; it is designed to cause the minimum of inconvenience to applicants who at times when applications are subject to lengthy delays would otherwise be without their passports.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many current applications for citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies have been waiting (a) more than two years, (b) more than one year and (c) more than six months for a decision.
This information could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications for citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies are currently awaiting attention and decision; and what was the figure for the same date in 1978 and 1977.
At the end of September 1979 the number of applications for citizenship at varous stages of consideration was 40,075: in the same month in 1977 and 1978 the numbers were 27,207 and 32,076 respectively.
Citizens Band Radio
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if citizens band radio can be regulated using the existing monitoring services of the Post Office; and, if not, what additional expenditure this would involve;
The possible frequency bands which could be used for citizens band radio if it were to be introduced, the likely level of demand for the facility and the administrative, regulatory and expenditure implications of its introduction, are all matters to which we are giving attention. However, as my right hon. Friend indicated in his reply to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Scunthorpe (Mr. Brown) on 22 October—[Vol. 972, c. 7.]—it is too soon to say what the outcome of our review of this issue will be or when we shall be in a position to make an announcement.
Broadcasting Regulations
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many offences occurred against the broadcasting regulations in 1978; and what measures he is taking to control such offences.
It is impossible to estimate the number of such offences. Incidents involving the unlicensed use of radio transmitters are investigated by the Post Office radio interference service acting as our agents.
Illegal Radio Transmissions
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what estimate he has made of the number of illegal radios currently operating in the United Kingdom;(2) what is his estimate of the number of private radio transceivers entering Great Britain each week.
I have no reliable information on which to make such estimates.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many complaints he received in 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978 of private radio interference with television reception, blocking of radio channels by high-powered emissions and other forms of interference, including deliberate jamming.
Information in the form requested is not available.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many convictions for illegal radio transmissions there were in 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978; and what was the average penalty imposed.
The number of persons convicted of making unlicensed radio transmissions were as follows:
| 1975 | 111 |
| 1976 | 57 |
| 1977 | 61 |
| 1978 | 47 |
Prison Mufti Squad
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when the prison MUFTI squad was formed; what is the number of officers involved and the nature of the training they receive; on what occasions it has been used; and on whose authority.
Guidance on the handling of demonstrations and other acts of concerted indiscipline, including tactics and training in the use of minimum force to retain control of prison service establishments, was issued to governors and wardens in February 1978. The aim is to provide that all members of the governor and prison officer grades—except hospital officers—who are medically fit are trained, and training has so far been undertaken at 73 establishments. The training is designed to ensure that staff operate effectively in disciplined bodies, under firm leadership, and includes instruction in the wearing of protective equipment and restrictions on the use of force, and practice in basic drills, manoeuvres and tactics. Teams of trained officers were deployed at Gartree prison on 6 October 1978; at Wormwood Scrubs prison on 31 August 1979; at Hull prison on 11 April 1979; at Styal prison on 4 September 1979; at Lewes Prison on 1 November 1978; at Camp Hill prison on 20 September 1979; and at Brixton prison on 26 September 1979. On each occasion the decision to deploy the officers was made by the governor in accordance with the provisions of the guidance.
Penal Institutions (Industrial Disputes)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list all those penal institutions that have been the subject of industrial action so far in the current year, indicating in each case the date, nature and duration of the dispute.
It would not be practicable to provide the information in the precise form which the hon. Member has requested without disproportionate cost, but the general position is that industrial action has been taken in the following establishments:
- Albany
- Ashford
- Blundeston
- Bristol
- Brixton
- Feltham
- Gartree
- Hatfield
- Highpoint
- Hull
- Leeds
- Leicester
- Liverpool
- Long Lartin
- Lowdham Grange
- Low Newton
- Maidstone
- Manchester
- Northallerton
- Northeye
- Norwich
- Onley
- Oxford
- Pentonville
- Preston
- Pucklechurch
- Ranby
- Risley
- Rochester
- Stafford
- Styal
- Stoke Heath
- Thorp Arch
- Wakefield
- Wandsworth
- Wellingborough
- Werrington
- Wormwood Scrubs
- Wymott
Racial Equality And Equal Opportunities Commissions
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by how much the £7 million annual expenditure of the Commission for Racial Equality and the Equal Opportunities Commission would be reduced if their functions were limited to the provision of advice to members of the general public on request.
This would depend on the nature and scope of the advice to be given.
Police Custody (Time Limits)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will place in the Library a copy of the paper on time limits on detention in police custody which his Department has recently submitted to the Royal Commission on criminal procedure.
I have done so.
Nationality Law
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he intends to publish a White Paper on the Government's intentions regarding new British nationality law.
I am considering the possibility of doing so.
Boundary Commission (Cambridgeshire)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to receive from the Boundary Commission its recommendations for Cambridgeshire.
We expect to receive the report of the parliamentary Boundary Commission for England on its general review of constituencies, including those in Cambridgeshire, in mid-1982.
Immigrants (Dependants)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications from immigrants already settled in Great Britain he has received for dependants to join them here since 4 May 1979; and how this figure compares with the same period in 1978.
Information is not available in the form requested. The available information relates to the number of applications made to the British representatives in the Indian Sub-continent for entry clearance, which is mandatory for immediate settlement by dependants and others. Quarterly figures up to 30 June 1979 were published on 21 September 1979 in Home Office statistical bulletin, Issue No. 9/79.
Police Powers
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the powers vested in Metropolitan police authorities, and those powers vested in chief constables under the Police Act 1964.
Under the Police Act 1964 a police authority constituted under that Act with the duty of maintaining an adequate and efficient police force for a police area has the following powers, certain of which are exercised subject to the approval of the Secretary of State. It determines the establishment of the force; is responsible for the appointment and discipline of the chief constable and other chief officers of the force; may in the interests of efficiency retire such officers; may provide and maintain buildings, vehicles and equipment required for police purposes; may employ civilians for police purposes; may require the chief constable to submit a report on matters connected with the policing of the area; and keeps itself informed as to the manner in which complaints from members of the public against members of the force are dealt with by the chief constable. Except where it is a committee of one of the constituent county councils, a combined police authority, responsible for maintaining a police force for an area comprising two or more counties, has certain additional powers in respect of finance and land acquisition.The Police Act 1964 places police forces maintained under the Act under the direction and control of their chief constable. He is responsible for appointments and promotions and discipline in respect of all ranks below assistant chief constable; causes all complaints from members of the public against a member of the force to be investigated; may request another chief officer to provide an investigating officer for that purpose; may, with the agreement of his police authority, make collaboration agreements with other forces; may provide assistance to other forces; may, subject to payment of charges determined by the police authority, provide special police services at places within the force area; and may appoint special constables and police cadets.
For a more general account of the responsibilities of police authorities and of chief officers of police I refer the hon. Member to memorandum I of the Home Office evidence to the Royal Commission on criminal procedure—of which a copy is in the Library of the House.
Schoolchildren (Remand)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how long each of those 34 schoolboys held on remand in 1978 and eventually found not guilty were held, and where;(2) how many of the 813 schoolboys remanded in custody in 1978 and eventually given a non-custodial sentence were held (
a) up to one week, ( b) one to two weeks, ( c) two to three weeks, ( d) up to one month, ( e) up to six weeks, ( f) up to two months, ( g) up to three months, and ( h) over three months;
(3) how many of the 111 schoolgirls remanded in custody in 1978 and eventually given a non-custodial sentence were held ( a) up to one week, ( b) one to two weeks, ( c) two to three weeks, ( d) up to one month ( e) up to six weeks, ( f) up to two months, ( g) up to three months and ( h) over three months;
(4) how long each of the five schoolgirls remanded in custody in 1978 and eventually found not guilty were held, and where.
The information requested could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.
| ACCIDENTS IN AGRICULTURE IN GREAT BRITAIN INVOLVING BULLS | ||||
| JANUARY 1976-DECEMBER 1978 | ||||
| Fatal Accidents | Non-Fatal Accidents | |||
| Year | Farmers | Farmworkers | Totals | (Farm Workers only) |
| 1976 | — | 1 | 1 | 50 |
| 1977 | — | — | — | 28 |
| 1978 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 34 |
| Totals | 2 | 3 | 5 | 112 |
Investigators (Binoculars)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) on whose authority binoculars were issued to investigators in his Department; how many have been issued; what was their total cost; by whom they are used and for what purpose; and if there are any guidelines as to their use;
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many of the 14 to 16-year-olds (a) boys and (b) girls remanded in custody in 1978 were held in local prisons.
Information is not available in the form requested. However, of the boys and girls aged 14 to 16 received on remand into prison department establishments in England and Wales in 1978, 168 boys and 104 girls were received into a local prison on initial remand or were discharged from a local prison at the end of their period of remand in custody.
Employment
Accident Statistics (Bulls)
60.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people were killed by bulls during each of the last three years for which figures are available; how many people were injured by bulls during the same period; and, of those injured or killed, how many were farmers or farm workers.
Information about accidents involving bulls is available only in respect of those accidents which occur during the course of agricultural operations and which are reported to Her Majesty's Agricultural Inspectorate. For the period January 1976 to December 1978 the following table shows that two farmers and three farm workers were killed and 112 farm workers injured in accidents involving bulls:(2) if he will prohibit the use of binoculars by members of his Department when used for spying on claimants.
[pursuant to his reply, 31 October 1979]: My Department acts as agents for the Department of Health and Social Security in all matters relating to the administration of unemployment benefit, including the investigation of suspected fraud. I therefore refer the hon. Member to the answers given yesterday by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services for the general policy aspects. It is the policy of this Government, as it was that of the previous Government, to investigate fraud vigorously, and to equip investigators properly for that purpose. My Department is to issue two pairs of binoculars to each of our nine regions at a total cost of £385.56 for use by special investigators working from those regional offices.
Special Temporary Employment Programme
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will name those schemes now funded through the special temporary employment programme of the Manpower Services Commission whose funding will cease during the current financial year as a result of the cuts that have been made in the special temporary employment programme.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Rehabilitation Courses
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he intends to continue the system of allowances paid to people going on employment rehabilitation courses; and whether he intends to increase the allowance in line with inflation.
[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979, c. 470–71]: I am pleased to announce that rehabilitation allowances will be increased from 15 November 1979 in line with the increase in prices; thus maintaining their existing relationship with unemployment benefit.As a long-term exercise the Manpower Services Commission is reviewing the scope and structure of allowances for all its various programmes, including employment rehabilitation.
Disabled Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what decisions he has taken concerning the continuation of the quota scheme for employment of disabled people; whether he has taken representations made in response to the Manpower Services Commission's consultative document on the quota into account in making and decisions about the future of the scheme; and whether he is satisfied with the presentation of the background information in that document.
[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979, c. 467–68]: No decisions have yet been taken on the future of the quota scheme, the deadline for responses to the MSC's document being the end of this month. All responses will be considered during the coming months by officials and by the national advisory council on employment of disabled people and it is expected that the Manpower Services Commission will be making recommendations to Ministers in the latter half of 1980.I am satisfied with the presentation of the background information in the discussion document.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many grants have been made to employers towards the cost of adaptations to premises or equipment to enable disabled people to obtain or retain employment since October 1978; and whether he intends to expand the provisions of the scheme.
[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979, c. 467–68]: I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that since 1 October 1978 approval has been given for 68 adaptations to premises or equipment.Greater use of the scheme is being encouraged through general publicity, the mobile train exhibition and the "Fit for Work" campaign, which have already had the effect of increasing the number of applications made. There is no intention to expand the existing provisions of the scheme.
Education And Science
Overseas Students
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what tuition fees will be payable by overseas students entering courses in the academic year 1980–81.
The effect of the decision regarding overseas students, set out in today's announcement about the Government's expenditure plans for 1980–81, is that public funds will not be available to subsidise students from overseas beginning courses in September 1980, other than funds made available through overseas aid programmes. The fees of students already on course will not be affected by this. As regards the annual fees for new entrants for the academic year 1980–81, I have consulted the university grants committee and the local authority associations, which will be issuing recommendations to the universities and local education authorities respectively. These will be as follows:
Universities
Such fees as the institutions consider necessary to meet the cost of the education in question, subject to a minimum of £2,000 per annum in the case of an arts course, £3,000 per annum for a science course, and £5,000 per annum for the clinical years of courses in medicine, dentistry and veterinary science.
Maintained and Voluntary Institutions
Advanced
| Non-advanced
| |
| Laboratory and workshop-based courses | 3,300 | 1,890 |
| Classroom-based courses | 2,400 | 1,380 |
No specific recommendations will be made in either sector about fees for postgraduate students. I am conscious that the contribution made by such students to research in the institutions they attend can be outstanding and I intend to arrange with the UGC for a scheme for granting bursaries to postgraduate research students of outstanding merit from overseas.
I am also considering whether the arrangements outlined above may be modified to take account of the position of students from other member countries of the EEC.
University Staff (Pay)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to be in a position to reply to the proposals of the Association of University Teachers with regard to the salaries of university academic and related staff.
I have nothing yet to add to the answer I gave on 25 October to a similar question from my hon. Friend the Member for Cambridge (Mr. Rhodes James).—[Vol. 972, c. 255.]
Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what will be the impact on standards in schools of the Government's plans for public expenditure in 1980–81; and if he will make a statement.
Expenditure on education in England and Wales—with universities in Great Britain—is expected to fall in real terms from £7,965 million in 1978–79 to £7,685 million in 1980–81, that is by £280 million or about £3½ per cent. Current expenditure by local authorities accounts for about four-fifths of the total.The Government's aim is to stabilise the total volume of public expenditure. Our objectives for education are to maintain and improve its quality and to promote higher standards of achievement. Accordingly my intention is that the bulk of the required reduction in expenditure should be made in areas not directly concerned with teaching in the classroom. Of the fall of £280 million between last year and next, the aim is that about 80 per cent. should be found from school meals, milk and transport areas, in which local authorities will be given much greater discretion under the Bill which I have just presented to Parliament.It is for local authorities to decide precisely how to implement these changes in expenditure. Nationally the overall pupil-teacher ratio should remain at its best-ever level of 18·7:1, the figure estimated for the current year, compared with 18·9:1 in 1978–79, since I have taken some account of the unavoidable diseconomies of staffing as pupil numbers fall by 4·7 per cent. between 1978–79 and 1980–81. Government plans mean that over the same period the teacher force should fall by 3·7 per cent., from nearly 471,000 to 453,000. But, since natural wastage averages about 30,000 a year, I see no need for significant numbers of teachers to be made redundant.Similar allowance for diseconomies has been made for other expenditure in schools where it should be possible also for standards of provision per pupil to rise by 2 per cent. compared with 1978–79. But it will be necessary to step up the rate at which surplus school places are taken out of use.School building programmes in 1980–81 will total nearly £120 million, compared with £126 million this year.The maintenance of quality depends on the way in which resources are used as well as on the actual level of resources. I am confident that these expenditure plans give us scope for achieving our objectives set out above.
Classroom Materials (Parental Contributions)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the number of local education authorities which intend to invite parents to contribute to the cost of covering basic classroom materials for their children.
I am not aware that any local education authority has decided to invite parents to contribute to the cost of covering basic classroom materials for their children. Parent-teacher associations do, however, on their own initiative, make funds available to schools for specific purposes and in consultation with the teaching staff.
Prime Minister (Engagements)
Q6.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for Thursday 1 November.
Q8.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 1 November.
Q9.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for 1 November.
Q10.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 1 November.
Q11.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 1 November.
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 1 November.
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 1 November.
Q14.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 1 November.
Q15.
asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 1 November.
Q18.
asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Thursday 1 November.
Q21.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 1 November.
Q27.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for 1 November.
Q32.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for 1 November.
Q34.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for Thursday 1 November.
Q35.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for 1 November.
I refer my hon. Friends and hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Bridlington (Mr. Townend).
Q20.
asked the Prime Minister whether any of the engagements in which she participated today, 1 November, resulted in any decisions of Her Majesty's Government.
Yes.
Shipbuilding
Q7.
asked the Prime Minister what effect the Government's decisions on shipbuilding have had and are planned to have on employment in shipbuilding on the Tyne, Wear and Tees, respectively.
Q36.
asked the Prime Minister what effect the Government's policies on shipbuilding will have had on shipbuilding employment in Scotland by 4 May 1980.
Our policy is to continue financial support for British Shipbuilders for a period of two years while it takes the measures necessary to achieve viability. Employment prospects in the shipbuilding industry will depend on its success in doing so.
Industrial And Economic Strategy
Q16.
asked the Prime Minister what effect she expects the overall industrial and economic strategy of the Government to have on the performance of British industry; and at what level of growth and unemployment she would feel it necessary to change her policies.
The Government's industrial and economic strategy is designed to create the conditions in which British industry can grow and prosper and new small businesses flourish; and we shall not change those objectives. I am confident that British industry will respond to the challenge and grasp the opportunities it is being given.
British Aerospace
Q17.
asked the Prime Minister what progress the Government are making with the disposal of shares in British Aerospace.
Legislation will be introduced shortly to enable British Aerospace's business to be transferred to a limited liability company, shares in which will be offered for sale.
European Community Budget (United Kingdom Contribution)
Q22.
asked the Prime Minister if the Government have given up their direct attempt to reduce Great Britain's contribution to the EEC budget.
No. We have made it absolutely plain to our Community partners that the United Kingdom's prospective net contribution to the EEC budget is manifestly inequitable and in need of urgent correction. I believe that the European Council will recognise this when it comes to decide on a solution to the problem at its next meeting in Dublin on 29 and 30 November.
European Monetary System
Q19.
asked the Prime Minister what consultations she has had since 27 July concerning United Kingdom membership of the European monetary system.
The question of sterling's participation in the EMS exchange rate arrangements has arisen in my bilateral meetings with other EEC Heads of Government and the President of the Commission.
Cbi
Q23.
asked the Prime Minister when she expects next to meet the Confederation of British Industry.
No dates have been arranged.
Yorkshire
Q24.
asked the Prime Minister when she plans next to visit Yorkshire.
I have at present no plans to do so.
Rural Areas
Q25.
asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement on the Government's policy towards rural areas.
I refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Eye (Mr. Gummer) on 26 July.
Drugs
Q26.
asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with co-ordination between the Home Department and the Department of Health and Social Security regarding the treatment of those addicted to hard drugs.
Yes. The relationships between supply and demand, prevention and treatment, are recognised, and current interdepartmental liaison includes co-operation to improve information nationally and locally about the nature, extent and trends of drug misuse.
Inflation
Q28.
asked the Prime Minister what is her current estimate of the rate of inflation at 31 December.
I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 23 October 1979.
Bodmin
Q29.
asked the Prime Minister if she will pay an official visit to Bodmin; and if she will make a statement.
I have at present no plans to do so.
Dartford
Q30.
asked the Prime Minister if she plans to make an official visit to Dartford.
I have at present no plans to do so.
Electricity Supply Industry
Q31.
asked the Prime Minister what proposals the Government have for restructuring the electricity supply industry.
My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Energy is currently considering the organisation of the electricity supply industry in England and Wales. The Government's proposals will be announced in due course.
Italy
Q38.
asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement upon her recent visit to Italy.
I paid an official visit to Rome on 4 and 5 October at the invitation of the Italian Prime Minister Signor Cossiga, accompanied by my noble Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs. In the course of wide-ranging discussions in international issues we covered a number of European Community questions; in particular I raised the problem of the disproportionate United Kingdom net contribution to the EEC budget, on which I underlined the necessity of reaching a satisfactory solution at the meeting of the European Council in Dublin on 29 and 30 November.
European Community (Heads Of Government Meeting
Q39.
asked the Prime Minister what she proposes to discuss at the European Economic Community Heads of Government meeting in Dublin in November.
I shall be pressing for action to reduce the United Kingdom's disproportionate net contributions to the Community budget. Other subjects likely to be discussed include the economic and social situation in the Community and the report of the committee to review Community institutions.
Common Agricultural Policy
asked the Prime Minister if she will seek to place on the agenda at the next meeting of the EEC Heads of Government the matter of the relative contributions of the member States to the common agricultural policy.
The next meeting of the European Council will be considering member States' contributions to the EEC budget as a whole, including expenditure on the common agricultural policy, which accounts for over 70 per cent. of the total.
Chairman Hua Guofeng
asked the Prime Minister whether in her discussions with Chairman Hua she will discuss the plight of the Vietnamese boat people and the Kampuchean situation, particularly with reference to the withdrawal of recognition from the Pol Pot regime.
The plight of the boat people and Cambodia were among matters I discussed with Premier Hua Guofeng.
Scunthorpe
Q33.
asked the Prime Minister if she has any plans to visit Scunthorpe.
I have at present no plans to do so.
The Taoiseach
Q37.
asked the Prime Minister when she last met the Taoiseach.
On 5 September, in London.
Environment
Rate Support Grant (Needs Element)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are his plans to return the needs element of rate support grant which in past years has been removed from counties like Kent.
I refer my hon. Friend to the answer my right hon. Friend gave to my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Hexham (Mr. Rippon) on 24 October 1979.—[Vol. 972, c. 197.]
Tortoises (Importation)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will ban the importation of the common tortoises Testudo Graeca and Testudo Hermann.
Under the Endangered Species (Import and Export) Act 1976 the importation of all tortoises is subject to licence. Testudo Graeca and Testudo Hermann, the species most commonly in trade, are not listed as endangered under the Washington convention on international trade in endangered species of wild fauna and flora. As long as the countries of origin of the tortoises are satisfied and prepared to issue export licences, a ban on their importation cannot be justified under the Washington convention. The Department has, however, obtained the agreement of representatives of the tortoise trade to operate a voluntary quota system which limits the total imports annually to not more than 100,000. This has, this year, brough about a marked reduction in the level of tortoise imports compared with previous years.
Community Land Act
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if it is intended to reimburse local authorities which have accumulated deficits on their land accounts as a result of complying with the Community Land Act.
The arrangements for closing the land accounts are under discussion with the local authority associations. An announcement will be made as soon as possible.
Development Commission (Projects)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many projects are under way between the Development Commission or the Council for Small Industries in Rural Areas and local authorities, or planned to start in each of the next three years; how much investment by the Development Commission or COSIRA is involved; how many jobs are estimated to result from projects under way or planned; and if he will issue a full statement indicating what role is anticipated for the Development Commission and COSIRA.
There are 134 factory projects where contracts have been placed, but work has yet to be completed. The estimated cost is about £7·7 million and about 1,200 jobs will be provided. The numbers of factories to be started in the next three years has not yet been decided.The functions of the Development Commission and COSIRA are currently under review by an inter-departmental group of officials.
Diversified Insulation (Member's Inquiry)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action he took following the meeting held with the hon. Member for Midlothian relating to the firm Diversified Insulation; and when the hon. Member may expect a more detailed reply from Her Majesty's Government.
I am considering the issues raised at the meeting to which the hon. Member refers and shall write to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Rates
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, as an interim measure pending the abolition of the rating system, he will consider changing the rates levied per household by introducing a factor related to, but not necessary identical with, the number of persons on the electoral roll for each household.
I am currently considering a number of alternatives to the rating system and will bear in mind my hon. Friend's suggestion.
Greater London (Housing Waiting Lists)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many people are currently on waiting lists for council housing in the Greater London area; and how this figure compares with six months and 12 months ago, respectively.
This information is not available in the Department.
Sex Shops
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he proposes to amend the Town and Country (Use Classes) Planning Order 1972 so that sex shops will no longer fall within class (i).
No.
Energy Forecasts (Armitage Report)
61.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when the Armitage report on future energy forecasts will be available.
I have been asked to reply. I am writing to my hon. Friend.
Transport
Driving Tests
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what steps he is taking or is proposing to take to reduce the average waiting time for a driving test at the Dundee test centre.
I am recruiting more driving examiners nationally to reduce the present waiting times. An additional examiner is to be posted to Dundee as soon as practicable.
asked the Minister of Transport what is the distance used for the eyesight test, recognition of number plates, in the driving test; and what are the reasons for it.
Driving test candidates, and indeed anyone driving an ordinary vehicle, must be able to read, in good daylight and with glasses or contact lenses if worn, either a number plate with symbols 3½ in. high at a distance of 75 ft. or one with symbols 3⅛ in. high at 67 ft.Anyone who cannot do this cannot legally drive or hold or obtain a licence. The test is simple to understand and easy to apply by drivers themselves and by driving examiners and the police. Recent research has established that the test requires a relatively high standard of visual acuity which compares well with standards demanded in other countries.
asked the Minister of Transport what is the average length of time learner drivers who apply for driving tests are having to wait before they are tested in Bury St. Edmunds; why there is a shortage of examiners at this centre; and if he is satisfied that the present system of testing is in all respects satisfactory and cost-effective.
31 weeks, which I accept is unsatisfactory. The situation at Bury St. Edmunds is a particular example of what has been permitted to happen over the country as a whole; the examiner-force was not allowed to keep pace with the demand for tests; and we are now having to recruit more staff as quickly as we can. That apart, I am satisfied with the working of the driving test organisation. But I have noted the above-average wait at Bury St. Edmunds and we will post additional staff there as soon as practicable.
Harborough Magna Service Area
asked the Minister of Transport if, in the light of information contained in his letter dated 23 October, he is prepared to allow the Harborough Magna motorway service area site to return to agriculture and invite tenders for this purpose.
As I explained to my hon. Friend in my letter of 23 October, I would not rule out the possibility of offering Harborough Magna for development if I felt at any time that additional services there would benefit travellers on the M6. In the meantime, part of the north side of the site is being used by the county council. My Department is issuing an agricultural licence for the remainder of the north side and is renewing one for the south side. Both licences become operative from today.
Bus Grant
asked the Minister of Transport if he will make a statement about the future of a new bus grant.
The Government's strategy of stabilising public expenditure means that support to transport from public funds must be limited. The last Government announced their intention to phase out new bus grant after the present powers expire in 1980. As the Government's response published today to the eighth report from the Select Committee on nationalised industries on "Innovations in Rural Bus Services" makes clear, we see no reason to dissent from that general conclusion. The grant will therefore be phased out in stages by 31 March 1984. This will allow those concerned time to adjust. My Department will be consulting the industry about the details of these arrangements.
Civil Service
Pensions
asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many civil servants (a) currently in post and (b) now retired are affected by the rule that temporary service prior to 14 July 1949 counts as to one-half in the calculation of their pensions, distinguishing between industrial civil servants and non-industrial civil servants.
Precise figures are not available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. It is estimated, however, that some 100,000 serving civil servants, of whom about a quarter are in industrial grades, are affected by this rule. The number of pensioners—including widows—is probably rather more than 150,000. These figures do not include Post Office staffs and pensioners and others who have reserved rights to Civil Service superannuation terms.
Trade
Management Consultants (Study)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the total estimated cost to his Department of retaining private management consultants to advise on the style of forms issued by his Department; when the consultants started work; how many forms they have considered and in how many cases recommendations made by the consultants have been accepted and implemented; if he will place in the Library copies of all forms where changes in style have been made or recommended, indicating what changes have been made or recommended and why; and if he will issue a full report indicating the cost effectiveness of this project.
The firms of consultants engaged jointly to consider the administrative forms issued by my Department started work on 20 August. The total estimated cost of their fees—including VAT—is around £25,000. I expect to receive their report shortly.
Civil Aviation Authority (Policy)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade why he has issued a directive to the Civil Aviation Authority that applications for reduced rate fares to Scandinavian destinations should not be heard at present; and if he will confirm that this does not represent a general change of policy in relation to Civil Aviation Authority decisions on similar hearings involving other European destinations.
The direction, which does not represent any general change in policy, applies only to services between Gatwick and Copenhagen, Oslo and Stockholm. It was issued because under our civil aviation arrangements with the Scandinavian countries we saw no prospect of being able to secure the necessary traffic rights for these services had licences been granted, irrespective of the fares to be charged. It is wasteful to allow time and money to be spent on hearing applications for services which cannot in practice be operated.
Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what are his proposals for expenditure by his Department in 1980–81.
Detailed Estimates for Department of Trade programmes will be published in the normal way after the New Year.The White Paper on public expenditure in 1980–81, published today, provides for Department of Trade expenditure to be reduced from the level—£199 million—envisaged in the previous Government's plans to £184 million, that is by £15 million—at 1979 survey prices. The greater part of this £15 million comes from carrying forward the 1979–80 savings announced on 12 June. These include the abolition of the Price Commission and the discontinuing of support for consumer advice centres and local price surveys, which will save about £11 million in the full year 1980–81. There will be a small reduction in real terms in expenditure on tourism and export promotion, with a reduction, in accordance with the guidelines already issued by the Secretary of State for the Environment, in local authority expenditure imputed to the Department. There will be some increased expenditure on the Monopolies and Mergers Commission.In relation to tourism, there will be no change in the present scope of section 4 assistance, which will continue to be available in the assisted areas; we shall, however, need to consider whether changes will be necessary when the assisted areas boundaries are redrawn in 1982.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Milk Marketing Board
6.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet the chairman of the Milk Marketing Board.
I am in frequent contact with the chairman of the Milk Marketing Board but I have no specific plans for a meeting at present.
Dairy Trades Federation
7.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to meet the president of the dairy trades federation.
I am in frequent contact with the president of the dairy trades federation but I have no specific plans for a meeting at present.
Glasshouse Growers
10.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the current cost of fuel to British glasshouse growers and the effects on their ability to compete with growers in the EEC.
Most British growers use oil, the price of which does not vary greatly between countries in the EEC.
Common Agricultural Policy
26.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further discussions he has had with regard to EEC Council of Ministers on the common agricultural policy.
The Council of Ministers discussed the common agricultural policy informally on 26 September and 29 October. I made it clear that the main aim must be to reduce the surpluses by cutting the level of support in real terms.
27.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action has been taken to reduce the United Kingdom's contribution of £1,146·25 million to the common agricultural policy of the EEC; and if he will make a statement.
Reducing total EEC expenditure on agriculture mainly means reducing the surpluses. The decision last June to freeze the price of milk and to allow only very small price increases for other CAP products was a first step in this direction and I am considering what further action might be taken. The United Kingdom's contribution to EEC expenditure is a separate issue which is to be discussed by Heads of Government later this month.
47.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a progress report on the negotiations regarding the reform of the common agricultural policy.
The freeze in the milk support prices for 1979–80 and the very low increase for other products was a good start. I shall be looking for further improvements in the context of the renegotiation of the sugar arrangements and the fixing of prices for 1980–81.
Forestry
28.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action he is taking to promote forestry.
50.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to increase the hectarage to be forested by the Forestry Commission and private owners in the next five years.
These are among the topics we shall be reviewing with the Forestry Commission during the next few months. In doing so we shall have regard to proposals we expect to receive from the Commission arising from its consultative document "The Wood Production Outlook in Britain" and other relevant studies.
Research, Development And Advisory Work
29.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the future level of Government financial support for research, development and advisory work in agriculture.
As yet my right hon. Friend has taken no decisions on the future level of the Department's financial support for research, development and advisory work, which is being considered in the context of the Government's general review of public expenditure, and of the review of functions of the Department currently in train.
Green Pound
24.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the current state of the green pound.
The present rate of the green pound is 1·70148 European currency units, giving a current United Kingdom MCA of 8·9 per cent.
Food And Drink Industries Council
30.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to meet the chairman of the food and drink industries council.
My right hon. Friend saw the chairman of the food and drink industries council on 23 October. No firm date has been set for their next meeting.
National Farmers Union
31.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to meet the chairman of the central horticultural committee of the National Farmers Union.
My right hon. Friend the Minister has, at present, no plans to do so, but my noble Friend, the Minister of State is meeting the chairman of the central horticultural committee of the NFU today.
33.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet the president of the National Farmers Union of Wales.
35.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet the president of the National Farmers Union of England and Wales.
40.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he intends to meet the National Farmers Union.
45.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet the president of the National Farmers Union of England and Wales.
This afternoon.
British Fishing Federation
32.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet the president of the British Fishing Federation.
My right hon. Friend and I met representatives of the national fish catchers organisations including the president of the British Fishing Federation on 25 October.
European Community (Council Of Agriculture Ministers)
34.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet the Council of Agriculture Ministers of the European Economic Community.
36.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he expects to meet his EEC counterparts.
37.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will be attending a meeting of the Agriculture Ministers of the European Community.
46.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet Commissioner Gundelach of the European Commission.
51.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he will next meet Commissioner Gundelach of the European Commission.
On 12–13 November.
European Community (Agricultural Budget)
38.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proposals he has to reduce the agricultural budget payments to the EEC.
The United Kingdom's contribution to the EEC budget as a whole, over 70 per cent. of which goes on agriculture, will be discussed at the meeting of Heads of Government later this month.
Hill Farming
39.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what progress is being made in formulating a Community policy towards hill farms.
The Community's policy for mountain and hill farming and farming in other less-favoured areas has been established under Council directive 75/268/EEC of 28 April 1975. Proposals made by the EEC Commission for amendment of certain details in the directive are currently under consideration.
Sugar
41.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further discussions he has had in relation to the future of the EEC sugar regime.
My right hon. Friend and I have met representatives from the interested parties in the United Kingdom, including beet producers and processors, cane sugar refiners, food manufacturers and trade unions. The EEC Commission is expected to put forward in the near future proposals for a revised regime.
Animals (Export)
42.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to meet EEC Ministers to discuss the future export of live animals from the United Kingdom for slaughter.
My hon. Friend the Minister of State pressed on 18 September in the Council of Ministers for a 12-hour limitation on the actual journey to the slaughterhouse. Since then, this and other matters have been vigorously pursued in detailed discussions at official level in Brussels. More work has yet to be done before proposals will be ready for the Council to consider.
European Community (Consumer Tariffs)
43.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the current EEC consumer tariff on hard wheat in £ sterling per tonne and on butter in pence per pound.
There is no EEC consumer tariff on butter or on hard wheat.On 31 October, the net levies, after taking account of monetary adjustments, applied to the United Kingdom on imports of butter from all countries other than New Zealand, and hard wheat, were 60·7p per lb and £38·87 per tonne respectively. A special rate of levy of 18·7p per lb is applied in respect of butter imported from New Zealand.
Country Landowners' Association
44.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, when next he will meet the president of the Country Landowners' Association.
My right hon. Friend and I met the outgoing and incoming presidents of the Country Landowners' Association on 22 October. My right hon. Friend will be meeting the new president again on 5 February 1980, if not sooner.
Bacon And Meat Manufacturers Association
48.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what plans he has to meet the chairman of the bacon and meat manufacturers association.
My right hon. Friend will be meeting the chairman again on 9 November.
Butter
52.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has made to the Commission of the EEC and to the Council of Ministers, respectively, about the sale of surplus butter to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics at prices below the market price.
When my right hon. Friend first heard of these sales, he protested immediately to Commissioner Gundelach and urged him to find ways of controlling the Community's exports of butter. As a result of these representations, the Commission has introduced a system of export licensing for butter which should enable exports to be monitored more closely than hitherto.My right hon. Friend again raised this question at the Council on 15–16 October. He emphasised the need to eliminate surpluses so as to make such sales unnecessary and stressed the inadequacy of the Commission controls which allow fresh butter to be sold to Russia when there are substantial stocks of older butter available. He pressed for an immediate review of the level of the export refunds and asked that the Commission should carry out a general review of surplus disposal arrangements. The Commissioner accepted the need to consider the question of the disposal of stocks of older butter and confirmed that the system of export licensing would enable the general situation to be kept under review.
Fishing Industry
49.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the re-organisation of the fishing industry.
The future structure of the fishing industry will depend on the fishing opportunities open to it and thus on the outcome of the current negotiations for an EEC common fisheries policy.
Sheepmeat
54.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he plans to secure entry for British sheepmeat into the French market.
Although the French Government have permitted very limited imports of United Kingdom lamb, the French Government are not allowing unrestricted access to the French market for United Kingdom sheepmeat. I have asked Commissioner Gundelach to fulfil the Commission's responsibility of upholding the treaties and I understand that the Commission is prepared to take action with the French Government to ensure compliance with the Court's ruling.
Fish Conservation
53.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on Her Majesty's Government's plans to improve the protection of United Kingdom inshore fish stocks.
The Government stand ready to introduce in United Kingdom waters further conservation measures that are scientifically based, including those necessary to protect inshore fish stocks, if this should prove necessary.
Food Prices
55.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what he estimates to be the annual cost of importing dearer foodstuffs as a result of the United Kingdom's European Economic Community membership.
In relation to commodities subject to import levies under the CAP, it can be calculated that the extra balance of payments cost of United Kingdom imports from other member States in 1978, minus the extra revenue on our exports to them, was about £110 million after taking account of monetary compensatory amounts—some £475 million—paid from the Community budget on the imports.
Bacon
56.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement on the progress to date of his scheme to improve the marketing of British bacon in Great Britain.
It is primarily a matter for the bacon-curing industry to improve the marketing of its products and we have introduced no specific scheme. However the marketing advisers my right hon. Friend appointed in July are already looking at this sector.
Agricultural Products (Development And Marketing Organisations)
57.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many of the 35 official bodies concerned with the development and marketing of agricultural products to which he appoints members have become irrelevant as a result of the requirements of the common agricultural policy; and when such bodies will be wound up.
The development and marketing of agricultural products are of undiminished importance to Britain in the context of the common agricultural policy. In common with other Ministers I am reviewing the future of all the public bodies for which I am responsible.
Exports To France
58.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the value of British agricultural exports into France in 1978, and to the latest available date for the current year.
The information requested is set out in the following tables:
| £ million (FOB) | |
| 1978 | |
| Food, feed and other agricultural products | 337·0 |
| Beverages | 43·1 |
| Fertilisers | 0·6 |
| Agricultural machinery and spares | 30·0 |
| Total | 410·7 |
| £ million(FOB) | |
| 1979 | |
| Jan.-Aug. | |
| Food, feed and other agricultural products | 170·4 |
| Beverages | 30·0 |
| Fertilisers | 0·7 |
| Agricultural machinery and spares | 24·0 |
| Total | 225·1 |
British Sugar Corporation
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the present Government holding in the British Sugar Corporation; and what is the future policy in this regard.
The Government hold 14½ million shares—24·18 per cent. of the shares issued—in the British Sugar Corporation. No future policy has been decided.
White Fish Authority
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when next he will meet the chairman of the White Fish Authority.
I have no plan to do so at present, but there are regular and frequent contacts between my Department and the chairman and his officials.
Sugar Cane
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has received from interested bodies in the sugar cane refinery industry, particularly from trade unions concerned, requesting meetings with him; and if he will agree to such meetings.
A number of requests for meetings have been received and as a result my right hon. Friend or I have met representatives of the ACP sugar supplying countries, the refiners and trade unions. As regards meeting with trade unions, my right hon. Friend met a delegation from the Transport and General Workers' Union—Greenock—on 18 July. I met a delegation from the Association of Scientific, Technical and Managerial Staffs on 17 July. I also met members of the Port Refineries Trade Union Committee on 19 September.
Common Agricultural Policy
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proposals he has made to the EEC for the reform of the common agricultural policy.
The Council of Ministers discussed the common agricultural policy informally on 26 September and 29 October. I made it clear that the main aim must be to reduce the surpluses by cutting the level of support in real terms.
Norwegian Pout Box
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what steps he is taking to safeguard fish stocks in the Norwegian pout box against over-fishing by alien fishing vessels.
Under the provisions of the relevant order on 1 October, the eastern boundary of the area in which fishing for Norway pout is prohibited was automatically extended from the Greenwich meridian to 2°E longitude or the median line with Norwegian waters. Fishery protection vessels regularly patrol the area and no vessels have been reported attempting to fish for Norway pout in the prohibited zone.
Fishery Limits
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has about catches of herring made by EEC vessels in the North Sea in defiance of the EEC ban; and whether he will ask other member countries urgently to enforce a total ban on landings to stop such catches.
There is no Community ban on fishing for herring in the North Sea. Member States bordering the area prohibit directed fishing for herring under their national laws, though provision is usually made to allow for by-catches up to a given percentage of any landing.Statistics on recent landings of herring are not available though there have been reports of infringements and prosecutions in other member States. I hope that all EEC member States will fully enforce the international scientific recommendations. Her Majesty's Government will continue to enforce our own national ban on directed fishing on all vessels in that part of the North Sea within United Kingdom waters without discrimination.
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will cause inquiries to be made in France, Holland and Denmark to assess the extent of herring landings.
Her Majesty's Government make available to Governments of other EEC member States details of landings in the United Kingdom by vessels of those States, and also seek and receive reports of landings by United Kingdom vessels in those countries to enable EEC and national rules on fishing including herring fishing to be enforced.Enforcement of national rules is a matter for the State concerned.
Wales
Land Authority For Wales
asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he has come to a decision on the future of the Land Authority for Wales; and if he will make a statement.
The Conservative Party's manifesto for Wales said that although the community land scheme would be abolished a Conservative Government would consult the building industry and the local authorities about a future role for the Land Authority for Wales. We have now carried out the consultations and in the light of the opinions expressed I have decided that the Land Authority should be retained, with an altered role. The necessary provisions will be included as part of the proposed legislation to repeal the Community Land Act.Under the new arrangements the Authority would not have the extensive role it had under the Community Land Act. In particular it would lose the expedited power of compulsory purchase, and the so-called planning trigger-mechanism would no longer operate. The Authority's main function would be to make development land available as quickly as possible in circumstances where the private sector found it difficult to complete transactions; it would also be able to acquire land suitable for development to hold against need. Regular contact would have to be maintained with builders, developers and local authorities to keep abreast of demand for and availability of development land. I do not expect the Authority to extend its land trading activities, but to stabilise them at about present levels. The Authority would be required to achieve financial self-sufficiency in the next financial year, although it would have a limited borrowing power.I also intend to propose that the Authority should have power to give advice to local authorities and other public bodies in Wales, if they request it, as to how their surplus land might best be made available for private development.
Llanfair Talhaiarn, Clwyd
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps he is taking to protect the village of Llanfair Talhaiarn, Abergele, Clwyd, from a repetition of the damage by flooding suffered by the local inhabitants in 1971 and again in 1976.
Land drainage schemes to alleviate flooding in Llanfair Talhaiarn from the River Elwy and Nant Barrog were approved for grant aid in 1977. I understand that both schemes have been completed.
Mental Illness
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the current level of provision of mental illness beds in each health authority in Wales; what this represents per 1,000 head of population; and if he will make a statement.
The information is as follows.
| Health Authority Area | Number of mental illness beds as at 31 December 1978 | Number of mental illness beds per 1,000 population* |
| Clwyd | 763 | 2·00 |
| Dyfed | 774 | 2·38 |
| Gwent | 1,165 | 2·66 |
| Gwynedd | — | — |
| Mid Glamorgan | 1,423 | 2·65 |
| Powys | 422 | 3·98 |
| South Glamorgan | 688 | 1·78 |
| West Glamorgan | 395 | 1·08 |
| Wales | 5,630 | 2·03 |
| * Population based on the Registrar General's mid-year estimates for 1978. | ||
Diabetes (Measuring Devices)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if it is the practice of the National Health Service in Wales to provide in each locality, where needed, an electrical device to measure the level of sugar in the blood of diabetics; and, if not, if he will consider making such provision.
The provision of equipment for this purpose is a matter for the judgment of area health authorities in the light of their medical advice and local circumstances.
Nursery Education
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what plans there are for expanding nursery school places in Wales; and if he will make a statement.
It is for local education authorities to determine what nursery provision should be made in their areas, taking account of the resources at their disposal. Resources allocated to nursery building in 1979–80 should allow some 230 additional places to be provided in Wales.
Local Government Ombudsman
asked the Secretary of State for Wales who will fill the post of local government ombudsman in Wales for the period from 1 January 1980.
An announcement was made on 31 October that Her Majesty The Queen had approved the appointment of Mr. D. E. Alun Jones, at present chief executive, Gwynedd County Council, to succeed the present commissioner, Mr. Dafydd Jones.
Energy
Petrol Stations (Rural Areas)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what representations he has made to the oil companies to prevent or restrict the closure of small petrol filling stations in rural areas.
My Department has received assurances from the oil companies principally concerned that for the time being they will continue to supply existing outlets which wish them to do so while alternative suppliers are being sought. The companies have also given an assurance that if rural filling stations are unable to find alternative sources of supply, and if there is no other filling station within a reasonable distance, they will be prepared to consider more permanent supply arrangements.
asked the Secretary of State for Energy, in view of the closure of petrol stations in the rural areas of Wales, what contingency plans he has to ensure that adequate supplies of petrol and diesel fuel shall always be available for the emergency services and for the agricultural and tourist industries.
I am aware that two of the major oil companies are pursuing a policy of withdrawing supplies from some smaller filling stations, but have no evidence of resulting supply difficulties in rural areas of Wales. The companies concerned are aware that circumstances can exist where a closure would cause social hardship, and have given my Department an assurance that if rural filling stations are unable to find an alternative supplier, and if there is no other filling station within a reasonable distance, they will be prepared to go on making supplies available.
North Sea Oil (Licences)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on further confirmations of sixth round licences.
I am today confirming the award of further licences of blocks conditionally allocated under the sixth round of offshore licensing, as follows:
Block 13/30
- BNOC, Phillips Petroleum Exploration UK Ltd.,
- Fina Exploration Ltd., Agip (UK) Ltd.,
- Century Power & Light Ltd.,
- Ultramar Exploration Ltd.,
- The British Electronic Traction Co. Ltd.
Blocks 16/18, 209/3, 209/13
BNOC, Mobil North Sea Ltd.
Block 73/8.
- BNOC, Chevron Petroleum Co. Ltd.,
- ICI Petroleum Ltd.
Blocks 72/20, 73/16, 85/23, 85/24, 85/28 and 87/11
BNOC, Amoco UK Petroleum Ltd., BGC, Mobil North Sea Ltd.
Blocks 206/3, 208/19 and 208/24
BNOC, BGC, Amoco UK Petroleum Ltd.
Block 85/29
- BNOC, BP Petroleum Development Ltd.,
- Total Oil Marine Ltd.,
- Elf Oil Exploration & Production Ltd.,
- Aquitaine Oil (UK) Ltd.
Gas Plants (Aberdenshire)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what discussions his Department has had with Shell United Kingdom Ltd., Total Oil Marine, and Grampian regional council on the setting up of gas gathering liquid plants in the area of St. Fergus in the constituency of East Aberdeenshire; and what was the result of their discussions.
In my reply of 5 July to my hon. Friend the Member for Exeter (Mr. Hannam) I mentioned that at my request British Gas and Mobil had agreed to carry out as quickly as possible a feasibility and design study for a gas gathering project, that the operators of the existing pipelines had assured me of their co-operation in that study and that I looked to the licensees of fields which might feed gas into a new line to co-operate fully. In that context, my Department has had general discussions with Shell and Total as licensees and operators of existing pipelines about co-operation with British Gas and Mobil North Sea Ltd.The scope of the study includes facilities for handling gas liquids. The Department has not discussed this matter with Grampian regional council, though I understand that staff engaged on the study have had preliminary discussions on possible locations for gas processing facilities with several local bodies, including that council.
Phurnacite
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what quantity of Phurnacite fuel is produced in the United Kingdom; what are the future prospects for the industry; from what source and in what quantities supplies are being imported into the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.
National Smokeless Fuels Ltd., a wholly-owned subsidiary of NCB (Coal Products) Ltd., is the sole producer of Phurnacite at its works at Aberaman, using Welsh dry steam duff and anthracite duff as feedstock. It produced about 800,000 tonnes in 1978. National Smokeless Fuels Ltd., and the National Coal Board currently have under consideration the question of replacing part of the plant and are in touch with my Department about this.
Coal (Imports)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) what representations have been made to him following the decision of the British Steel Corporation to conclude coal purchasing contracts with United States of America coal suppliers about the effects of such coal importation on sales, production and demand for coking coal from Welsh collieries;(2) what is his policy with regard to the importation of foreign coking coal by British industrial consumers when there are supplies of similar coal at similar prices available from British sources.
At the Government's request the National Coal Board and the British Steel Corporation are jointly considering the corporation's future demand for coking coal. When they report to the Government on this, the Government will give careful consideration to any proposals they make.
European Community
Treaty Of Rome
asked the Lord Privy Seal what consideration he has given to reviewing s.171 of the Treaty of Rome.
None.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
New Hebrides
asked the Lord Privy Seal what progress has been made in the negotiations for the independence of the New Hebrides; and if he will make a statement.
Together with the French Minister concerned—M. Dijoud—I attended a constitutional conference in Vila from 17–19 September. The conference unanimously agreed a draft independence constitution, and set the date of 14 November for fresh elections to the Representative Assembly. The new Government then elected will lead the territory to independence in 1980.
British Broadcasting Corporation (External Services)
asked the Lord Privy Seal (1) if the proposed 10 per cent. cut in the budget for the foreign language service will involve closing down services to Asia, Africa, Latin America and Western and Southern Europe;(2) when he expects to decide upon the size of the Foreign Office grant for the BBC external services for the financial year 1980–81;(3) if reductions in the BBC monitoring and transcription services will form part of the £4 million saving which he proposes;(4) which foreign language services he proposes to close down to meet the proposed saving of £4 million;(5) if it is his intention to maintain the BBC World Service in English;(6) if he intends to maintain the BBC broadcasting services in the relevant foreign languages to the Communist countries of Central and Eastern Europe and to the Arab world.
As announced earlier to-day in the context of the White Paper on the Government's expenditure plans for 1980–81, the level of grant-in-aid earlier proposed to be paid to the BBC for the operation of the external services in that year will be reduced by £2·7 million. This represents a reduction of around 6 per cent. rather than the 10 per cent. suggested by my hon. Friend.The World Service will continue unchanged and, subject to some economies, a plan to improve audibility will go ahead. Vernacular services to the developing world and to those countries which do not enjoy free and open access to information will also be largely unaffected.The following vernacular services, however, will be discontinued: French, Italian, Greek, Turkish, Spanish—but not including Spanish to Latin America—Burmese and Maltese. There will be some reduction in transcription services and some adjustments to the capital expenditure programme to improve audibility.
asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will seek powers to allow part of the cost of the external services of the BBC to be funded by licence revenue instead of solely by Foreign Office grant, as at present.
No.
asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will publish a schedule showing savings in transmission costs of closing down the services to each of the following areas: Asia, Africa, Latin America, Western Europe and Southern Europe.
No. Details of the savings expected of the British Broadcasting Corporation external services are given in the answer to my hon. Friend's earlier question.
asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the average cost per hour of the external foreign language broadcasts for the years 1970, 1974 and 1978 compared with the average cost per hour of the home services.
The average cost per hour of the external services foreign language broadcasts for the financial years 1970–71, 1974–75 and 1978–79 compared with the average cost per hour of the home services is as follows:
| Financial year | Foreign language broadcasts | Television | BBC radio network |
| £ | £ | £ | |
| 1970–71 | 250 | 7,600 | 800 |
| 1974–75 | 425 | 10,450 | 1,2500 |
| 1978–79 | 750 | 19,050 | 1,800 |
Industry
British Leyland
asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he was consulted by the board of BL Ltd. prior to its announcement of its decision to spend £1 million on launching its new model.
No. This is a matter for BL management.
Industry Act Assistance
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what financial assistance has been paid or authorised under sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act between May and the latest available date, compared with May and the comparable date in 1978; how many applications for assistance have been received and how many authorised between May and the latest available date, compared with May and the comparable date in 1978; what totals of assistance were received by industry in each period; how many jobs were involved; and if he will make a statement indicating what changes have been made since May in the guidelines relating to such applications and whether any further changes are contemplated.
| SECTION 7 OF THE INDUSTRY ACT 1972 | ||||||
| 1 May to 30 September 1978 | 1 May to 30 September 1979 | |||||
| Number | Value (£ million) | Estimated employment associated with projects | Number | Value (£ million) | Estimated employment associated with projects | |
| 1. Applications received: | ||||||
| (a) Resulting in offers | 171 | 81·6 | 19,000 | 185 | 109·4 | 18,400 |
| (b) Rejected or withdrawn | 22 | 4·7 | 1,000 | 34 | 8·5 | 2,800 |
| (c) Still under consideration on 30 September | 383 | 123·9 | 33,300 | 496 | 33·5 | 38,600 |
| Total applications | 576 | 210·2 | 53,300 | 715 | 151·4 | 59,800 |
| 2. Total offers made | 457 | 37·5 | 32,200 | 524 | 57·4 | 40,100 |
| 3. Payments made | 956 | 21·1 | — | 1,104 | 25·0 | — |
| Note: These totals exclude special assistance to the shipbuilding industry under section 7 of the Industry Act and a grant of £75 million offered in January 1978 to the Ford Motor Company. | ||||||
| SECTION 8 OF THE INDUSTRY ACT 1972 | ||||
| 1 May to 30 September 1978 | 1 May to 30 September 1979 | |||
| Number | Value (£ million) | Number | Value (£ million) | |
| 1. Application received: | ||||
| (a) Resulting in offers | 164 | 4·6 | 469 | 2·2 |
| (b) Rejected or withdrawn | 132 | 1·9 | 105 | 0·6 |
| (c) Still under consideration on 30 September | 723 | 41·0 | 550 | 9·3 |
| Total application | 1,019 | 47·5 | 1,124 | 12·1 |
| 2. Total offers made | 790 | 62·1 | 789 | 19·2 |
| 3. Payments | 595 | 23·6 | 533 | 15·4 |
| Notes: | ||||
| (1) These totals are exclusive of special assistance to individual companies. | ||||
| (2) Selective financial assistance under section 8 is not linked directly to employment and no statistics on employment associated with the projects are readily available. | ||||
National Enterprise Board
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what were the total borrowings of the National Enterprise Board, as at 31 October, as defined in section 1 of the Industry Act 1979.
[pursuant to his reply, 31 October 1979]: Total charges against the financial limit of £3,000 million in section 1 of the Industry Act
The information is as follows:1979 amount to £1,505 million. Of this total £159 million represents borrowing by the NEB.
International Computers Limited
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement about the finance he is making available for the International Computers Limited project in West Gorton, Manchester, following, and to make up the shortfall from, his withdrawal of £1 ½ million in regional development grant from that project; if he will include in his statement the sum of money he is providing, whether it is in grant or loan form and, in the latter case, on what terms; and under what statute and arrangement the aid is forthcoming.
My right hon. Friend has offered ICL, under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972, a grant of £3,772,000 towards the total cost of the redevelopment project at West Gorton, including expenditure on plant as well as on buildings. Details of the Department's negotiations with ICL and of the terms of the offer must remain confidential, as with all cases of financial assistance to companies, but I can confirm that the £3,772,000 takes account of the effect of the changes in regional policy announced in July.
National Finance
Investment Income
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers are subject to each of the following rates of tax on investment income namely 40 per cent., 45 per cent., 55 per cent., 60 per cent., 65 per cent., 70 per cent. and 75 per cent., respectively.
Counting married couples as one, and treating investment income as the top slice of total income, the estimates at 1979–80 income levels are as follows:
| Estimated number of tax units | ||
| Marginal rate of tax on investment income | Those who pay the investment income surcharge | Others* |
| per cent. | (thousands) | (thousands) |
| 40 | 0 | 190 |
| 45 | 140 | 100 |
| 50 | — | 65 |
| 55 | 35 | 25 |
| 60 | 35 | 20 |
| 65 | 35 | — |
| 70 | 20 | — |
| 75 | 35 | — |
| TOTAL | 300 | 400 |
| *Marginal rates are calculated for those who have investment income but are not liable to the investment income surcharge. | ||
Social Wage
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate the value of the social wage in 1978–79, and for 1979–80, in the light of the Government's public expenditure plans.
As I explained to the hon. Member for York (Mr. Lyon) on 6 July—[Vol. 969, c. 777]—the social wage as defined by the last Government was simply total expenditure on certain of the programmes in the public expenditure survey in any particular year divided by the number of people in the working population. I find it difficult to see any merit in such a figure. For example, it cannot be combined with gross earnings because it is financed—inter alia—out of those earnings nor can it be added to personal disposable income as that includes the pensions and other cash benefits already included in the social wage.
Earned Income
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers are subject to each of the following marginal rates of income tax on earned income, namely, 25 per cent., 30 per cent., 40 per cent., 45 per cent., 50 per cent., 55 per cent. and 60 per cent., respectively.
Counting married couples as one, the estimates at 1979–80 income levels are as follows:
| Marginal Rate of Tax on Earned Income | Estimated No. of Tax Units |
| per cent. | (thousands) |
| 25 | 2,470 |
| 30 | 17,480 |
| 40 | 215 |
| 45 | 110 |
| 50 | 70 |
| 55 | 25 |
| 60 | 30 |
| Total | 20,400 |
Money Supply
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will include the issue of industrial and commercial acceptances within the measurement of money supply.
While acceptances are clearly a close substitute for some types of bank deposit and credit, they are not money in the normal sense of the word. It would therefore not be right to include them in the measurement of the money supply. However, in assessing monetary conditions and reaching decisions on monetary policy, the Government take account not only of the movements of £M3, and other monetary aggregates, but also of other forms of liquidity and credit, of which acceptances are one.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will exert further control over the money supply by tightening control of the monetary base.
The Government are currently considering whether a system of monetary base control might be an effective means of ensuring the achievement of interest rate changes which are necessary for purposes of monetary control.
British Savings Bonds (Interest Payments)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps the Government will take to recompense holders of British Savings Bonds who were not paid interest due on a contractual basis on 15 June and are still awaiting these payments.
| Changes during period £(million) | |||
| (a) Sterling M3(1) | (b) Notes and coin in circulation with the public | (b) as a percentage of (a) | |
| 1970 | 1,541 | 321 | 21 |
| 1971 | 2,455 | 273 | 11 |
| 1972 | 4,927 | 495 | 10 |
| 1973 | 6,702 | 305 | 5 |
| 1974 | 3,255 | 709 | 22 |
| 1975 | 2,330 | 816 | 35 |
| 1976 | 3,565 | 809 | 23 |
| 1977 | 4,132 | 985 | 24 |
| 1978 | 6,769 | 1,204 | 18 |
| 12 months to 19 Sept. 1979 | 5,707 | 961 | 17 |
| (1) Notes and coin in circulation with the public plus private and public sector Sterling sight and time deposits with banks. | |||
| Compilation of M2—which was not in fact identical to current and deposit bank accounts—was discontinued in 1972. | |||
| Changes in sterling M3 and/or its components in banking months since mid-1971, and quarterly changes before then, have been published in Financial Statistics—in table 7·2 in recent issues. Monthly fighres for earlier than mid-1971 have not been compiled. | |||
Personal Incomes
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of total income before tax is held by the following groups of earners in the United Kingdom (a) top 1 per cent., (b) top 5 per cent. and (c) top 10 per cent.; and what are the corresponding percentages of total income after tax.
As I stated in my reply to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Hazel Grove (Mr. Arnold) on 13 July—[Vol. 970, c. 302]—recompense on delayed dividends will be payable at the rate of 17 per cent. per annum tax free. Dividends due on 15 June were delayed two or three weeks according to the method of payment. Recompense in respect of these particular dividends is expected to be paid during January 1980.
National Finance
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report a schedule of statistics, in these columns, for each month during the period from April 1970 to the present, of the following (a) the growth of the money supply in current and deposit bank accounts (M2), (b) new currency and coinage minted, and (c) the percentage that (b) represents of (a).
Growth in (a) the money supply—£M3—and (b) notes and coin in circulation with the public, together with (b) as a percentage of (a), has been as follows:
I regret that an answer for groups of earners could not be given without a disproportionate expenditure of time and resources. For groups receiving incomes of all kinds the most complete estimates will be found in an article entitled "The distribution of income in the United Kingdom 1976/77" published in Economic Trends for February 1979.—No. 304. pp. 88–91.
Bank Of England (Exchange Control Division)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why no staff reductions are proposed in the Bank of England exchange control division, despite the substantial reduction in official controls which he announced on 25 July.
I refer my hon. Friend to the statement which my right hon. and learned Friend made to the House on 23 October. [Vol. 972 c. 202–3.]
Officials (Powers Of Entry)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what training is given to officers of the Inland Revenue and Customs and Excise with regard to surveillance techniques and raids on business premises and private homes.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
1P And 2P Coins
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the present value of the metal in the one penny and two penny coins; and what was that value one year ago.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Horses (Purchase)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has yet completed his consideration of the tax disadvantage suffered by the purchase of horses in the United Kingdom in respect of which value added tax is charged at the full rate whereas no tax is charged in the Republic of Ireland and tax is charged on only carcase value in France.
I shall let my right hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Personal Incomes
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will set out in the Official Report the percentage of the total tax cuts anounced in his Budget for the following levels of earnings: up to £2,000, £4,000, £5,000, £8,000, £10,000 and £15,000; and also show the percentage of the tax cuts he announced, excluding those announced in April 1979.
[pursuant to his reply, 24 October 1979, c. 208]: The estimates given below are by reference to bands of total income, counting married couples as one.
| Total incomes | Percentage of total Budget cuts | Percentage excluding cuts announced in April 1979 |
| £ | ||
| 0–2,000 | 2 | 1 |
| 2,001–4,000 | 14 | 11 |
| 4,001–5,000 | 10 | 9 |
| 5,001–8,000 | 30 | 28 |
| 8,001–10,000 | 11 | 11 |
| 10,001–15,000 | 12 | 14 |
Overseas Banks (Interest Payments)
asked the Chancellor of Exchequer whether he will introduce legislation to ensure that overseas banks report directly to the Inland Revenue on interest paid to depositors who are resident in the United Kingdom.
[pursuant to his reply, 31 October 1979, c. 527]: Such legislation would be likely to be ineffective as it could not be enforced outside the United Kingdom.
Scotland
Royal High School, Edinburgh
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much money has been spent on the purchase and conversion of the Royal high school Edinburgh; whether any decision had yet been made on the future use of this building, how much extra money has been spent on the building beyond the minimum amount required for the current of future use; and what steps he proposes to take to meet the difference in cost.
The Property Services Agency has spent £3·2 million on the purchase and conversion of the former Royal high school, Edinburgh and on the conversion of part of St. Andrew's House. No decisions on future use of the building will be taken until a conclusion is reached on all-party talks about the government of Scotland. Following the Scotland Act referendum outstanding contracts were reviewed to see whether savings could be made through cancellation. Where possible, savings were made. The reoccupation of St. Andrew's House will enable some other Government offices in other parts of Edinburgh to be disposed of.
Fishery Limits
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he intends to take to prevent French fishermen from fishing for herring on the North-West Coast of Scotland which they then land at their home ports; if he will take steps to have these vessels arrested and their stocks and gear impounded and if he will take steps to place a permanent ban on any vessel caught in illegal fishing of a restricted species in British waters.
British fishery limits around Scotland are regularly patrolled by my Department's fishery protection vessels and the Royal Navy's fishery protection squadron, with the assistance of surveillance by Nimrods of the Royal Air Force, in order to enforce compliance with fisheries legislation by vessels of all nationalities. This has produced no evidence of breach of United Kingdom regulations by French vessels off the North-West Coast of Scotland.Recent reported landing of herring at Boulogne have been brought to the attention of the French authorities and I understand that proceedings have been taken against two French boats.The penalties imposed for breach of United Kingdom fisheries legislation are for the courts to determine. While these may include forfeiture of catch and gear, they do not include power to impose on a vessel a general ban on fishing within British fishery limits.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what the result of his investigations into the allegations made by the secretary of the Mallaig and North-West fishermen's association has been that trawlers from Grimsby and Fleetwood are catching large quantities of herring, contrary to the present restrictions, which are being frozen, then hidden from view and sold either to factory ships offshore or at Continental ports.
Throughout the Minch mackerel season, the fishery protection service has carried out regular inspections of landings, transhipments and catches including stowed frozen fish. These in- spections have, however, shown no evidence of deliberate breach of the prohibition on fishing for herring.Investigations concerning the landing of herring in Denmark by a Grimsby registered vessel are being carried out by my right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. A decision on any action to be taken in this case must await the completion of these investigations. My right hon. Friend's Department has also investigated but has found no evidence to support a further allegation that has been made that the skipper of a Hull registered vessel had been given permission to retain a catch of herring.
Departmental Officers (Powers Of Entry)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what training is given to officers in his Department and in public bodies ultimately answerable to him, who have powers of search and entry, with regard to surveillance techniques and methods of gaining entry into business premises and private homes.
No such specific training is given, but I would expect any officers in my Department who have powers of search and entry always to exercise them reasonably. I regret that information about officers in public bodies ultimately answerable to me is not readily available.
Herring
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the dumping of tons of herring into the River Clyde estuary due to the Government's restrictions on the size of catches, stating why the fishermen were not permitted in the special circumstances to land these fish for sale for human consumption.
There were no Government restrictions on the size of catches during the course of the Clyde herring fishery.The fishery began on 4 June on the understanding, which was fully accepted by the industry, that the catch in 1979 would not be allowed to exceed the total allowable catch of 2,000 tonnes recommended by the International Council for the Exploration of the Sea. Licences were suspended by my Department on 18 October when this limit was reached.The day-to-day management of the fishery was in the hands of the Scottish fishermen's organisation and was not a matter for the Government. The organisation adjusted the daily quota allowed per boat to meet the requirements of the market and having regard to the level of the fishery. Under these arrangements a catch taken in excess of a boat's daily quota could be landed and sold by the organisation, with the catch counting against the total allowable catch. There was, therefore, no requirement on a boat to dump any part of its catch so long as the total allowable catch for the year had not been taken.
Hill Farming
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he hopes to announce the result of the current review of hill farming in Scotland.
I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeenshire, East (Mr. McQuarrie) on 24 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 183.]
Home Insulation
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the take-up so far of grants to improve home insulation.
26,084 applications for grant under the Homes Insulation Scheme 1978 were accepted by Scottish local authorities from the start of the scheme in September 1978 to the end of September 1979. About 15,150 grants were paid in the same period.
Taxi Fares
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the taxi fare structure for each Scottish district.
My right hon. Friend does not have this information, because he has powers to approve only such fares as are incorporated in byelaws. Some districts do not control taxis at all, or do so in only part of their area, and others control fares administratively, or under local Acts which do not require his involvement.
Legal Practice (International Comparisons)
asked the Attorney-General in which of the member States of the European Economic Community, and in which of the following countries: the United States of America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and other European countries (a) conveyancing is invariably carried out by solicitors, (b) there is a division between solicitors and barristers enabling only the latter to handle the majority of court cases, (c) there is a requirement that a client employing a senior barrister in court must only employ a junior; and if his Department has made any study of the practices in the countries where these conditions are not applied, with a view to the application of relevant experience in this country.
The law and practice with regard to these matters differs substantially from country to country and it is not possible to make direct comparisons. The position with regard to conveyancing and fusion in certain countries was considered by the Royal Commission on legal services in reaching its conclusions on conveyancing and fusion. The recommendations and information provided by the Royal Commission have been published—Cmnd. 7648—and section 7 of volume 2 contains comparative information relating to conveyancing in different countries. The recommendations and information provided by the Royal Commission on legal services are being carefully considered by my noble Friend and his Department.
European Court
asked the Attorney-General what assistance, financial or otherwise, he will give to British nationals to sue another member State of the EEC in its own national courts for disregarding a judgment of the European Court, with a view to obtaining enforcement and for damages.
Under the legal aid legislation of this country, legal aid is available only for proceedings in the courts of this country. A legal aid certificate granted for such proceedings can be extended to cover proceedings in the European Court on a reference by a court in this country for a preliminary ruling on a question of law, but a certificate cannot be granted or extended to cover proceedings in the national courts of other member States. The availability of legal aid in such states to British nationals depends upon the law of the State concerned.
asked the Attorney-General if, in order to assist the House, he will lay before it a statement on the legal position with regard to the disregarding of a judgment of the Europeon Court; and, in particular, what action, if any, can be taken to enforce such judgment and to sustain damages for such disregard.
No.
Magistrates (Political Affiliations)
asked the Attorney-General (1) what monitoring is carried out of magistrates' political affiliations; why this is done; for what purpose the information is collected; and if his noble Friend will cease the practice forthwith;(2) why monitoring of magistrates' political views is restricted to membership of the Conservative, Labour, and Liberal parties only; why his noble Friend does not collect information on membership of minor parties such as the National Front or the Communist Party of Great Britain; and if, should the system of monitoring continue, his noble Friend will begin to monitor membership of minor parties.
There is no monitoring of magistrates' political views or affiliations. Candidates for possible appointment as justices of the peace are invited to include among the written particulars which they provide an indication of their political views. They are free to say that they have none. Any views they have are in no way restricted to those of the main political parties.It is made quite clear to candidates that their political views are neither a qualification nor a disqualification for appointment; that the information is required only in order to avoid the appointment of a disproportionate number of justices of any one party. The information given is treated as confidential and is available only to my noble Friend and those who advise him on magisterial appointments. In a few areas magistrates have been invited to bring this information up to date for the same purpose and on the same basis of confidentiality.It is not intended to discontinue this practice, which is regarded as most valuable. A clear statement regarding the practice has long been available to the general public in a pamphlet issued by the Lord Chancellor's Office entitled "Justices of the Peace; How they are appointed; What they do". My noble Friend is ensuring that the hon. Member receives a copy.
Defence
Soviet Forces (Europe)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what recent estimates he has made of the increase in Soviet forces in Europe over the past five years, with such breakdown as he is able to make in respect of their nuclear missiles and warheads, combat aircraft, armoured vehicles and ground forces.
There has been a further growth in the number of Soviet forces in Europe over the past five years, and the quality of their equipment has been significantly improved. The Soviet Union now spends about 12 per cent. of its GNP on military expenditure. For example, the introduction of the SS20 IRBM to replace the SS4 and SS5 has slightly reduced the actual number of missiles but the SS20 can deliver three warheads rather than one. We estimate that the SS20s already deployed produce a substantial increase in payload which will become larger as more missiles are brought into service. The latest versions of Soviet third generation tactical aircraft are much more effective, and the new Soviet T-64 main battle tanks which comprise nearly half of its tank numbers in Germany are a considerable improvement over earlier types.In other areas there has been a dramatic increase in numbers. There are now twice as many armed and armoured helicopters, adding a new dimension to Soviet assault capability. Artillery weapons have increased by nearly 20 per cent. and towed guns have been replaced by self-propelled guns. There has been a 50 per cent. increase in armoured combat vehicles for infantry. Numbers of soldiers in combat units in the ground forces have increased by some 5,000.
Low-Flying Aircraft (Yorkshire)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the average number of military aircraft which fly low over the town of Knottingley, West Yorkshire, during the 24 hours of a normal weekday.
Military pilots are instructed to avoid flying below 2,000 feet over Knottingley. If the hon. Member has any evidence that this rule is not being observed and cares to forward it to me, my Department will make a full investigation.
Nato And Warsaw Pact Forces
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the Official Report the ratio, by Service, of NATO forces to Warsaw Pact forces.
The latest published ratios are in Cmnd. 7474, a copy of which is in the Library.
Nato (United Kingdom Contribution)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the Official Report the percentage, by Service, of the United Kingdom contribution to NATO combined forces.
The British Army of the Rhine constitutes about 7·5 per cent. of total in-place NATO manpower in the central region of Europe and the Royal Air Force some 10 per cent. of front-line aircraft in the same area. The Royal Navy provides more than 50 per cent. of the surface ships and submarine in the Eastern Atlantic and Channel.
Northern Ireland
asked the Secretary of State for Defence, since 1968 how many units of the Army have carried out more than five, six, seven, eight or nine tours of duty in Northern Ireland; and what regiments are currently in Northern Ireland for a tour of duty of more than one year.
Since 1968 18 major units have carried out six or more tours of duty in Northern Ireland, 11 major units have carried out seven or more tours, and three have carried out eight tours. The following units are currently on a tour of one year or more:
- 2nd battalion The Royal Tank Regiment
- 3rd battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment
- 1st battalion The Green Howards
- 1st battalion The Staffordshire Regiment
- 2nd battalion The Parachute Regiment
- 40 Commando Royal Marines
Irish Republican Army
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many soldiers have been killed or wounded by the Irish Republican Army since 1 January 1979; and how many members of the Irish Republican Army have been killed or wounded by the Army over the same period.
A total of 42 soldiers, including members of the Ulster Defence Regiment, were killed and 42 wounded in terrorist incidents between 1 January 1979 and 31 October 1979. The Provisional Irish Republican Army has claimed responsibility for the majority of these outrages. Statistics for civilian casualties do not distinguish between terrorists and others.
Northern Ireland
Companies (Northern Ireland) Order 1978
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he has received any representations about the making of regulations under the Companies (N.I.) Order 1978; what is the nature of any such representations; and what reply was given.
Representations have been received from the Northern Ireland consumer council concerning the implementation by subordinate legislation of the provisions of the Companies (Northern Ireland) Order 1978 which require the disclosure of company accounts. A senior official from the Department of Commerce has been invited to address the council on the subject matter of the representations.
Gaelic Athletic Association
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when the Northern Ireland commission on human rights is likely to report on the complaint by the hon. Member for Down, North that the Constitution of Northern Ireland Act, as amended, is inadequate to deal with overt discrimination against the Royal Ulster Constabulary and the Army by the Gaelic athletic association.
The standing advisory commission on human rights is an independent body and it will be for the commission itself to decide when it wishes to send me advice on any matter. I have no knowledge of any intention by the commission to offer advice on the matter referred to by the hon. Member.
Clann Eireann Voluntary Youth Organisation
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the amount of grants or loans made to the Clann Eireann voluntary youth organisation in each of the past 10 years, including funds made available by the former resettlement organisation for former internees.
The total amount of grant paid by the Department of Education and by the Southern education and library board to Clann Eireann youth club, Lurgan, in each of the past 10 years is as follows:
| £ | |
| 1969–70 | 1,788 |
| 1970–71 | 1,450 |
| 1971–72 | 1,461 |
| 1972–73 | 1,311 |
| 1973–74 | 4,010 |
| 1974–75 | 3,840 |
| 1975–76 | 12,564 |
| 1976–77 | 14,514 |
| 1977–78 | 13,247 |
| 1978–79 | 10,648 |
Higher Education (Fees)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what are the fees currently charged by the universities, the polytechnics, and the teacher-training colleges; when these fees were last increased; and whether any distincton is made between British and foreign students.
Tuition fees charged for full-time courses by the Ulster polytechnic and the universities and colleges of education in Northern Ireland are, with certain minor exceptions, as follows:
| Academic Year 1979/80 | |
| Full-time advanced courses—including primary degree courses—which attract mandatory awards | £595 |
| Postgraduate courses of initial teacher training | £595 |
| Other courses of initial teacher training | £595 |
| Full-time postgraduate courses—other than those mentioned above | £890 |
| Full-time advanced courses of further education which do not attract mandatory awards | £220 |
| Non-advanced full-time courses of further education | £164 |
School Building
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the capital projects currently in the course of construction costing in excess of £250,000 at (a) voluntary grammar schools in Northern Ireland and (b) maintained grammar schools in Northern Ireland.
The information is as follows:
| Voluntary Grammar Schools | |
| Approximate building costs, excluding professional fees | |
| Belfast Royal academy | £320,000 |
| St. Mary's convent grammar school, Magherafelt | £450,000 |
| Convent of Mercy, Thornhill college Londonderry | £423,000 |
| Controlled grammar schools under the management of education and library boards | |
| Limavady grammar school | £810,000 |
Quangos
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he hopes to announce the list of quasi-autonomous non-governmental organisations in Northern Ireland which he intends to abolish; and if he will make a statement.
I hope to announce very shortly the winding-up of a number of non-departmental public bodies and I am continuing my review.
Terrorism
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will ensure that any masked terrorists who brandish firearms publicly will be immediately restrained by the security forces.
It is for the security forces commanders present at the scene to decide how best to deal with any particular incident so that law and order are maintained and unnecessary bloodshed avoided.
Unemployment
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) how many persons are registered as unemployed in the borough of Newtownabbey;(2) how many persons are registered as unemployed in the borough of Lisburn;(3) how many persons are registered as unemployed in the borough of Antrim.
The information is as follows:
| Borough district council area | No. of registered unemployed at 26 October 1979 |
| (a) Newtownabbey | 4,373 |
| (b) Lisburn | 1,604 |
| (c) Antrim | 1,472 |
Phosphate And Sewage Works
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he expects Lough Neagh phosphate reduction plants at Ballymena and Ballynacor to be fully operational; and when his Department plans to commence construction of the Milltown sewage disposal works.
The phosphate reduction plants at Ballymena and Ballynacor sewage works are experimental. Preliminary results involving the use of a locally produced coagulant are most encouraging and the present operation of the Ballynacor plant is likely to continue on a permanent basis. It is hoped that the Ballymena plant will be fully operational next year.Milltown sewage disposal works was commissioned in January 1976; it is planned to incorporate phosphate reduction processes there next year.
Republic Of Ireland (Papal Visit)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what percentage of the total State schools is the number of schools that closed for a school day during the papal visit to the Republic of Ireland.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Departmental Staff (Powers Of Entry)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what training is given to officers in his Department and in public bodies ultimately answerable to him, who have powers of search and entry, with regard to surveillance techniques and methods of gaining entry into business premises and private homes.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Social Services
Widows (Pensions)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will seek to amend present legislation in order that widows will be paid the full widow's pension, regardless of age, on the death of the husband.
No. I do not consider there are good grounds for paying a national insurance widow's pension to young widows under 40 without children, who normally have the same opportunities of supporting themselves as single women of the same age. Widows who are over 50 when their husbands die or their children grow up receive the full pension; widows who are then between 40 and 50, receive a percentage of the full pension, according to their age. These arrangements take account of the difficulties which older widows may encounter in re-establishing themselves in employment, and I consider that the general provisions for widows of varying ages are satisfactory bearing in mind that the national insurance scheme necessarily deals with broad categories of beneficaries.
Health And Personal Social Services
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the actual expenditure in Great Britain for health and personal social services for 1978–79 at outturn prices in the 1980 Treasury analysis; what percentage of this sum would be saved by (a) a cut in administrative expenditure of £30 million, and (b) a doubling of the income received from pay beds.
The outturn of expenditure in Great Britain for health and personal social services for 1978–79 is provisionally estimated as £8,974 million—at outturn prices.A cut of £30 million would represent 0·3 per cent of that sum. A doubling of income from pay-beds would also represent 0·3 per cent of that sum.
London Ambulance Service
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the petrol allowance to the London ambulance service has been cut by 25 per cent.
The allocation of petrol to the London ambulance service has not been cut by 25 per cent. The National Health Service, in common with other users, has experienced a general reduction of 5 per cent. in its fuel supplies. This affected the London ambulance service particularly during the early summer, but since then the position has improved and the service is at present confident that it has adequate supplies of petrol to carry out its duties.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the serious shortage of staff at the Park Royal ambulance department.
There is a general shortage of staff throughout the London ambulance service; the service is making effort to improve this situation. Emergency services are being maintained.
Unemployment And Supplementary Benefit
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the esti- mated annual cost of unemployment and supplementary benefit listed separately and paid as follows (a) to those under 21 years of age, excluding single parent families and (b) to those under 21 years of age, excluding children of single parent families, who are living with their parents; and what are the numbers involved.
Information is not available in the form presented; in particular no estimate of annual costs is possible because the incidence of claims from young people is not even over the whole year.The estimated weekly amount of unemployment benefit payable on 9 November 1978 to people aged 16–19 years was £1,018,000—66,000 claimants—and to those aged 20–24 years it was £1,986,000—109,000 claimants. Information is not available about the number of single parents included in these figures.At the end of November 1978, supplementary benefit payments averaging £12·91 a week were being made to 165,000 people under 21—other than single parents. These included 138,000 who were not householders—but not necessarily living with their parents—and whose supplementary benefit payments average £11·81 a week.
National Health Service
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to ensure that his proposals to reorganise the administrative structure of the National Health Service result in an improvement in local consultative processes; if he will ensure that doctors, nurses, midwives and other medical personnel have a greater involvement than at present; and if he will ensure that formal consultation at community level, starts before, and not after, formal decisions on matters such as closures, have been taken.
The importance of consultation with staff and outside bodies on appropriate matters is already well recognised; for example, area health authorities must consult community and staff interests before taking a formal decision permanently to close a hospital. I cannot anticipate the proposals for changes to the structure of the Health Service which the Government will be putting forward later this year, but our intention is that generally they will make existing consultative arrangements more effective.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in the last period for which figures are available, what was the proportion of costs which were identifiably administrative to the total cost of the National Health Service; and what were the similar proportions in the two preceding periods.
The percentages of expenditure incurred by health authorities in England attributable to headquarters administration in the past three financial years are as follows:
| 1976–77 | 4·36 per cent. |
| 1977–78 | 4·24 per cent. |
| 1978–79 | 4·15 per cent. (Provisional) |
Mobility Allowance
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he intends to extend the mobility allowance to persons who are currently over 65 years of age and chose not to take up the offer of an Invacar prior to the abolition of the Invacar scheme; and what is the estimated cost of such an extension of the mobility allowance.
There are no plans for further extensions to the scope of mobility allowance scheme at this time.I regret that the information required to make the estimate requested is not available.
Hospitals (Liverpool)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will make a statement on the objections raised against the proposed closure of the Royal Liverpool children's hospital, details of which have been sent to him by the hon. Member for Liverpool, Scotland Exchange;(2) what representations he has received against the proposed closure of the Royal Liverpool children's hospital and the Newsham general hospital;(3) if he will agree to meet a deputation from the League of Friends of the Royal Liverpool children's hospital and other interested bodies to discuss the proposed closure;(4) what consultations have taken place with the Liverpool area health authority concerning the proposed closure of the Royal Liverpool children's hospital and the Newsham general hospital;(5) if he is satisfied with the present services provided by the Liverpool area health authority in the fields of paediatric and geriatric care; and if he will make a statement.
There has, I believe, been some misunderstanding locally of the status of certain proposals for the future of the Royal Liverpool children's hospital and Newsham general hospital, put forward by the Liverpool area health authority (teaching).As part of its area strategic plan it has proposed the future closure of Newsham general hospital, an old building, and its replacement by purpose-built modern units, to provide geriatric care.The health authority, in undertaking its planning, recognised that there was a need for an expert study of the future pattern of paediatric services, and a specialist working party was set up. This has now reported; its advice is that in future paediatrics should be concentrated mainly on one site—it proposes Alder Hey hospital—with the consequential closure of the paediatric hospitals including the branches at Heswall and the city.The area strategic plan and the working party report have been issued for consultation so that the authority can be aware of, and take into consideration, the kinds of objections the hon. Member has raised in his letter to me of 24 October, and which have also been raised by others—I have received 10 letters from other hon. Members and 10 private individuals about the Royal Liverpool children's hospital, and two letters from hon. Members about Newsham general hospital. If, when it has considered any objections raised by local interests, the authority decides that, in its view, closure of these hospitals is a necessary part of the future pattern of services for the area as a whole, it envisages that there will be formal consultations on the closure proposals as such, in accordance with established procedure. Before issuing any further consultation document the authority will have had to consider the implications for patients and staff of its proposals—that is, the substance of the representations I have received on the subject.
Neo-Natal Mortality
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the figure for neo-natal mortality in the North-Western region per 1,000 babies weighing less than 2,500 grams in each of the past three years for which figures are available; and if he is satisfied with the number of intensive care cots available to the regional health authority.
Following is the information:
| Neo-natal deaths per 1,000 live births of 2,500 grams or less to residents of the North Western | |
| Region | |
| 1976 | 89 |
| 1977 | 92 |
| 1978 | 86 |
Invalid Care Allowance
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether there are any plans to extend the provision of the Social Security Act 1975 to make invalid care allowances available to married women who are residing with or maintained by their husbands and are looking after elderly relatives; and if he will make a statement.
There are no plans to extend entitlement to invalid care allowance to married women who are residing with or maintained by their husbands. Until the economy has revived it is not possible to consider such extensions of the national insurance scheme.
Secure Units
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the average length of time spent by juveniles in secure units; and what is the longest period spent by a juvenile in such a unit to date.
The information is not available.
Mentally Ill Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, further to his answer, Official Report, 28 June 1979, columns 327–8, to the hon. Member for Ormskirk, he will now describe what he has done to help establish day care for the mentally ill.
My hon. Friend explained in June—[Vol. 969, c. 328]—that he was considering what could usefully be done to provide a clear conception of what day care for the mentally ill should provide. We believe, as did our predecessors, that an important reason for the disappointing progress in day care is this lack of clarity. A start was made with the seminar organised by the Department last year and attended by people from the NHS, social services and voluntary bodies. My right hon. Friend has now asked the Department to build on this by reviewing the objectives of day care and by gathering and analysing information about good practice in meeting them. In the light of this work, we will review current policies and consider how best to get ideas and policies across to those at the local level providing and planning services for the mentally ill.
Medical Appointments
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the outcome of the Minister for Health's discussion with the Hospital Doctors' Association on the subject of the blacklist for medical appointments.
There is no blacklist. Exceptionally, as a supplement to the normal checking of references when doctors seek NHS employment, the regional medical officer of a region where a doctor has been employed may write to other regional medical officers suggesting that they refer to him if that doctor should apply for a post; or the Department may write to regional medical officers in similar terms. This may be done, for example, where mental illness may have affected a doctor's ability to care for his patients, or where a bogus doctor is known to be presenting spurious evidence of medical qualification. As has been made clear in recent discussions with the Hospital Doctors' Association the arrangements will be reviewed when the General Medical Council's new health committee comes into operation next year. The system must be fair to NHS patients and doctors, and I am considering suggestions made by the association.
Health Services (Ealing, Hammersmith And Hounslow)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in the light of the effect on health services of the proposed public expenditure cuts in the Ealing, Hammersmith and Hounslow area health authority with particular relevance to the child development centre at Charing Cross hospital, what steps he proposes to take to provide alternative services.
Should this AHA (T) decide that, in order to keep within its cash limit, it is necessary to close or curtail services at this unit, it would be for the AHA(T) in the first instance to determine whether it should provide alternative services.
National Health Service (Expenditure)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will list those clinical goods, other than drugs, purchased on current account at (a) hospital level, (b) area health authority level, (c) regional health authority level and (d) nationally, which have a total value nationally for each article of over £1 million, giving the national expenditure for each category for the latest financial year;(2) if he will list all goods, other than drugs, purchased on current account for use in National Health Service hospitals on which more than £1 million per annum is spent—or other convenient figure—and which are classed as clinical goods.
I regret that the information requested under (a), (b) and (c) is not readily available. The only relevant item of clinical goods bought by the Department is standard blood sets—and associated items—the value of which was approximately £2,300,000 in 1978.
The Department arranges a number of running contracts for clinical goods for the NHS but purchase under these contracts are made by NHS authorities and the value of such purchases is not readily available.
asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services what was the total expenditure on current account in the National Health Service during the most recent financial year on clinical goods, other than drugs, for use in hospitals.
The total revenue expenditure on purchases of clinical goods for the National Health Service—England — during 1977–78 was £177,154,000.
asked the Secretary of State for the Social Services what proportion of clinical goods purchased on current account at National Health Service hospitals are purchased as a result of tendering.
I regret that the information is not readily available.
Suture Purchases
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of suture purchases for use in National Health Service hospitals was procured (a) at hospital level, (b) at area health authority level, (c) at regional health authority level and (d) nationally during 1978–79.
Sutures for use in the National Health Service are mainly procured at either hospital or area health authority levels. I am not aware of purchases at regional health authority level; no purchases are made nationally.I regret that details of the proportions purchased at hospital and area health authority level are not readily available.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the total expenditure on sutures in National Health Service hospitals during 1978–79; and what proportion of purchases was supplied by British-owned companies.
I regret that the information requested is not readily available.
Life Expectancy
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the life expectancy at birth in Hampshire for men and women, respectively; how this compares with the 1948 figures; and what are the comparable figures for Great Britain as a whole.
Calculations of the expectations of life at birth which would result if current mortality rates were continued over a lifespan are available as follows—
| Females | ||
| At 1977 mortality rates: | ||
| Great Britain (provisional | 70·0 | 76·2 |
| Wessex Regional Health Authority (Isle of Wight, Dorset and Wiltshire) | 71·2 | 76·9 |
| At 1951–53 mortality rates: | ||
| Great Britain | 66·5 | 71·6 |
Elderly And Disabled Persons (Telephone Subsidy)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will introduce a telephone subsidy for the elderly, the disabled and the chronically sick.
Questions of telephone tariffs are the business of the Post Office. It is open to a local authority, when satisfied of need, to pay telephone installation and rental charges for individual disabled or elderly people.
Low Income Groups
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the number of persons and families living (a) below, (b) on, (c) up to 110 per cent., (d) 120 per cent. and (e) 140 per cent. of the supplementary benefit level for each year since 1974 according to the standard family and employment status groupings.
[pursuant to her reply, 22 May 1979, c. 112]: The information is as follows:NOTES TO TABLES1. All figures are rounded to the nearest 10,000. Consequently the sum of the component parts may not equal the totals.
2. The estimates for those not receiving supplementary benefit are based on the DHSS analysis of incomes and other information rcorded bw respondents to the Family Expenditure Survey for 1977. The estimates are subject to statistical error. Those figures in square brackets are subject to very considerable proportionate statistical error. Estimates of those receiving supplementary benefit are derived from the Annual Statistical Enquiry of Supplementary Benefit claimants.
3. These estimates relate only to the population living in private households, families and persons in institutions are not sampled in the FES.
4. The supplementary benefit level is taken as being the supplementary benefit scale rate(s) appropriate to the family, using the long term rates for pensioners only. Income refers to net income less net housing costs, less work expenses where appropriate.
5. The comparison is based on the family's normal income in the normal employment situation of the family head. For example where the head of the family has been off work due to sickness or unemployment for less than three months at the time of the survey the family's normal income when the head was at work was used in determining the level of income.
6. The estimates for numbers of families with income below the supplementary benefit level do not indicate unclaimed entitlement to supplementary benefit. For example those who are in full-time work or undertaking full-time further education would not normally have entitlement to supplementary benefit; for others not precluded from claiming, no regard is had in these estimates to factors such as disregarded income, treatment of capital or exceptional circumstance additions, each of which can affect payment of supplementary benefit.
5. Separate estimates of families with apparent unclaimed entitlement to supplementary benefit are now made annually. Those for 1976 were published in the Annual Report of the Supplementary Benefits Commission for 1977 (Cmnd. 7392); estimates for 1977 were published in the Commissions Report for 1978.
8. The 1977 estimates for families with incomes below the supplementary benefit level are directly comparable with those for 1974, 1975 and 1976 but not with those for 1972 and 1973. In earlier years it had been assumed that the income distribution of the self employed was the same for employees. Self employed sample records were included in the analysis in 1974 for the first time and this has been repeated since. The figures on the self-employed are specially liable to error because their incomes recorded in the FES tend to be particularly low in relation to their recorded expenditure. This discrepancy is partly due to the incomes of the self employed being recorded in many cases for a much earlier period than to which their expenditure relates and the data in the tables for 1975, 1976 and 1977 have been adjusted to take account of this. The 1977 data contained more information so a finer adjustment was possible for that year.
| ESTIMATED NUMBER OF FAMILIES WITH INCOMES BELOW SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFIT LEVEL ANALYSED BY EMPLOYMENT STATUS AND FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
Great Britain (thousands) | ||||||||
1974
| 1975
| 1976
| 1977
| |||||
Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| |
| EMPLOYMENT STATUS | ||||||||
| 1. Over pensionable age (60 for woman, 65 for man) | 450 | 550 | 590 | 740 | 700 | 870 | 620 | 760 |
| 2. Under pensionable age | ||||||||
| Family head or single person: | ||||||||
| (a) Normally in full-time work or self-employed | 130 | 360 | 210 | 630 | 290 | 890 | 230 | 640 |
| (b) Sick or disabled for more than 3 months | [20] | 60 | [20] | [30] | [20] | [30] | [40] | 70 |
| (c) Unemployed for more than 3 months | [40] | 90 | 60 | 120 | 100 | 170 | 150 | 290 |
| (d) Others | 280 | 350 | 210 | 320 | 250 | 320 | 220 | 270 |
Total under pensionable age
| 470 | 850 | 500 | 1,100 | 650 | 1,410 | 640 | 1,270 |
| Of which in large families (3 or more children) | [40] | 230 | [50] | 310 | 70 | 420 | 60 | 320 |
| Of which lone parent families | [20] | 70 | [50] | 150 | [40] | 100 | [40] | 110 |
Total of 1 and 2
| 920 | 1,140 | 1,090 | 1,840 | 1,350 | 2,280 | 1,260 | 2,020 |
| FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
| 3. Over pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples | 90 | 200 | 140 | 280 | 160 | 320 | 130 | 260 |
| (b) Single persons | 350 | 350 | 450 | 470 | 550 | 550 | 490 | 500 |
| 4. Under pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples with children | 90 | 390 | 130 | 570 | 190 | 820 | 160 | 670 |
| (b) Single persons with children | [20] | 70 | [50] | 150 | [40] | 100 | [40] | 110 |
| (c) Married couples without children | [30] | 70 | 60 | 120 | 70 | 130 | [50] | 90 |
| (d) Single persons without children | 330 | 330 | 260 | 260 | 360 | 360 | 390 | 390 |
Total of 3 and 4
| 920 | 1,140 | 1,090 | 1,840 | 1,350 | 2,280 | 1,260 | 2,020 |
| ESTIMATED NUMBER OF FAMILIES AND PERSONS IN RECEIPT OF SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFIT ANALYSED BY EMPLOYMENT STATUS AND FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
Great Britain (thousands) | ||||||||
1974
| 1975
| 1976
| 1977
| |||||
Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| |
| EMPLOYMENT STATUS | ||||||||
| 1. Over pensionable age (60 for woman, 65 for man) | 1,810 | 2,130 | 1,640 | 1,930 | 1,660 | 950 | 1,700 | 2,000 |
| 2. Under pensionable age | ||||||||
| Family head or single person: | ||||||||
| (b) Sick or disabled for more than 3 months | 280 | 420 | 190 | 270 | 190 | 250 | 180 | 240 |
| (c) Unemployed for more than 3 months | 140 | 360 | 290 | 720 | 410 | 910 | 420 | 980 |
| (d) Others | 300 | 820 | 290 | 800 | 360 | 980 | 350 | 940 |
Total under pensionable age
| 720 | 1,600 | 780 | 1,780 | 950 | 2,140 | 950 | 2,160 |
| Of which in large families (3 children or more) | 100 | 530 | 120 | 620 | 130 | 700 | 140 | 720 |
| Of which lone parent families | 260 | 760 | 260 | 760 | 320 | 920 | 320 | 900 |
Total of 1 and 2
| 2,530 | 3,730 | 2,430 | 3,710 | 2,610 | 4,090 | 2,650 | 4,160 |
| FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
| 3. Over pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples | 320 | 650 | 280 | 560 | 290 | 580 | 290 | 580 |
| (b) Single persons | 1,480 | 1,480 | 1,370 | 1,370 | 1,370 | 1,370 | 1,410 | 1,410 |
| 4. Under pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples with children | 80 | 390 | 120 | 550 | 140 | 640 | 150 | 700 |
| (b) Single persons with children | 260 | 760 | 260 | 760 | 320 | 920 | 320 | 900 |
| (c) Married couples without children | 80 | 150 | 70 | 130 | 80 | 160 | 80 | 160 |
| (d) Single persons without children | 300 | 300 | 340 | 340 | 410 | 410 | 390 | 390 |
Total of 3 and 4
| 2,530 | 3,730 | 2,430 | 3,710 | 2,610 | 4,090 | 2,650 | 4,160 |
| ESTIMATED NUMBER OF FAMILIES AND PERSONS WITH INCOMES AT OR ABOVE SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFIT LEVEL BUT LESS THAN 10 PER CENT. ABOVE ANALYSED BY EMPLOYMENT STATUS AND FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
Great Britain (thousands) | ||||||||
1974
| 1975
| 1976
| 1977
| |||||
Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| |
| EMPLOYMENT STATUS | ||||||||
| 1. Over pensionable age (60 for woman, 65 for man) | 490 | 650 | 430 | 610 | 570 | 810 | 560 | 810 |
| 2. Under pensionable age | ||||||||
| Family head or single person: | ||||||||
| (a) Normally in full-time work or self-employed | [50] | 150 | 90 | 400 | 160 | 610 | 140 | 500 |
| (b) Sick or disabled for more than 3 months | [20] | 60 | [10] | [30] | [10] | [40] | [30] | 70 |
| (c) Unemployed for more than 3 months | [10] | [20] | [20] | [30] | [50] | 140 | [30] | 60 |
| (d) Others | [40] | 90 | [30] | [50] | [30] | [30] | [40] | [50] |
Total under pensionable age
| 110 | 310 | 160 | 520 | 250 | 820 | 230 | 680 |
| Of which in large families (3 or more children) | [10] | 60 | [40] | 240 | 80 | 430 | [40] | 220 |
| Of which lone parent families | [10] | [40] | [10] | [30] | [10] | [30] | [20] | 70 |
Total of 1 and 2
| 610 | 960 | 590 | 1,120 | 820 | 1,630 | 790 | 1,490 |
| FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
| 3. Over pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples | 150 | 300 | 170 | 350 | 240 | 470 | 250 | 500 |
| (b) Single persons | 350 | 350 | 260 | 260 | 340 | 340 | 310 | 310 |
| 4. Under pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples with children | [40] | 200 | 90 | 410 | 140 | 660 | 120 | 500 |
| (b) Single persons with children | [10] | [40] | [10] | [30] | [10] | [30] | [20] | 70 |
| (c) Married couples without children | [20] | [30] | [20] | [30] | [30] | 60 | [20] | [50] |
| (d) Single persons without children | [50] | [50] | [40] | [40] | 70 | 70 | 70 | 70 |
Total of 3 and 4
| 610 | 960 | 590 | 1,120 | 820 | 1,630 | 790 | 1,490 |
| ESTIMATED NUMBER OF FAMILIES AND PERSONS WITH INCOMES AT OR ABOVE SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFIT LEVEL BUT LESS THAN 20 PER CENT. ABOVE ANALYSED BY EMPLOYMENT STATUS AND FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
Great Britain (thousands) | ||||||||
1974
| 1975
| 1976
| 1977
| |||||
Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| |
| EMPLOYMENT STATUS | ||||||||
| 1. Over pensionable age (60 for woman, 65 for man) | 1,030 | 1,360 | 1,090 | 1,500 | 1,360 | 1,890 | 1,350 | 1,860 |
| 2. Under pensionable age | ||||||||
| Family head or single person: | ||||||||
| (a) Normally in full-time work or self-employed | 140 | 520 | 220 | 870 | 450 | 1,670 | 390 | 1,440 |
| (b) Sick or disabled for more than 3 months | [30] | 90 | [50] | 110 | 70 | 150 | 90 | 250 |
| (c) Unemployed for more than 3 months | [30] | 60 | 60 | 100 | 90 | 220 | 80 | 150 |
| (d) Others | 70 | 120 | 90 | 170 | 70 | 100 | 110 | 200 |
Total under pensionable age
| 270 | 800 | 410 | 1,250 | 680 | 2,140 | 670 | 2,040 |
| Of which in large families (3 or more children) | 70 | 390 | 90 | 530 | 180 | 970 | 140 | 750 |
| Of which lone parent families | [20] | 60 | [20] | 80 | [30] | 90 | [50] | 180 |
Total of 1 and 2
| 1,300 | 2,160 | 1,500 | 2,750 | 2,040 | 4,040 | 2,010 | 3,890 |
| FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
| 3. Over pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples | 330 | 660 | 400 | 810 | 520 | 1,050 | 510 | 1,020 |
| (b) Single persons | 700 | 700 | 690 | 690 | 840 | 850 | 830 | 830 |
| 4. Under pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples with children | 120 | 580 | 200 | 920 | 380 | 1,700 | 360 | 1,520 |
| (b) Single persons with children | [20] | 60 | [20] | 80 | [30] | 90 | [50] | 180 |
| (c) Married couples without children | [30] | 70 | 60 | 130 | 90 | 180 | 80 | 160 |
| (d) Single persons without children | 100 | 100 | 130 | 130 | 170 | 170 | 180 | 180 |
Total of 3 and 4
| 1,300 | 2,160 | 1,500 | 2,750 | 2,040 | 4,040 | 2,010 | 3,890 |
| ESTIMATED NUMBER OF FAMILIES AND PERSONS WITH INCOMES AT OR ABOVE SUPPLEMENTARY BENEFIT LEVEL BUT LESS THAN 40 PER CENT. ABOVE ANALYSED BY EMPLOYMENT STATUS AND FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
Great Britain (thousands) | ||||||||
1974
| 1975
| 1976
| 1977
| |||||
Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| Families
| Persons
| |
| EMPLOYMENT STATUS | ||||||||
| 1. Over pensionable age (60 for woman, 65 for man) | 1,900 | 2,720 | 2,000 | 2,870 | 2,240 | 3,180 | 2,150 | 3,010 |
| 2. Under pensionable age | ||||||||
| Family head or single person: | ||||||||
| (a) Normally in full-time work or self-employed | 500 | 1,960 | 860 | 3,290 | 1,230 | 4,450 | 1,070 | 3,820 |
| (b) Sick or disabled for more than 3 months | 70 | 230 | 120 | 300 | 130 | 290 | 160 | 400 |
| (c) Unemployed for more than 3 months | [50] | 90 | 80 | 190 | 120 | 290 | 110 | 200 |
| (d) Others | 160 | 250 | 200 | 340 | 190 | 290 | 240 | 410 |
Total under pensionable age
| 770 | 2,540 | 1,270 | 4,120 | 1,670 | 5,320 | 1,580 | 4,830 |
| Of which in large families (3 children or more) | 430 | 2,060 | 320 | 1,830 | 400 | 2,190 | 310 | 1,700 |
| Of which lone parent families | [30] | 80 | 80 | 250 | 70 | 220 | 90 | 290 |
Total of 1 and 2
| 2,670 | 5,250 | 3,270 | 6,990 | 3,900 | 8,500 | 3,730 | 7,840 |
| FAMILY TYPE | ||||||||
| 3. Over pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples | 810 | 1,630 | 850 | 1,710 | 920 | 1,860 | 860 | 1,720 |
| (b) Single persons | 1,090 | 1,090 | 1,150 | 1,150 | 1,310 | 1,320 | 1,290 | 1,290 |
| 4. Under pension age | ||||||||
| (a) Married couples with children | 430 | 2,060 | 710 | 3,200 | 960 | 4,220 | 880 | 3,690 |
| (b) Single persons with children | [30] | 80 | 80 | 250 | 70 | 220 | 90 | 290 |
| (c) Married couples without children | 80 | 170 | 190 | 380 | 250 | 490 | 230 | 450 |
| (d) Single persons without children | 230 | 230 | 290 | 290 | 390 | 390 | 390 | 390 |
Total of 3 and 4
| 2,670 | 5,250 | 3,270 | 6,990 | 3,900 | 8,500 | 3,730 | 7,840 |
Departmental Staff (Powers Of Entry)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what training is given to officers in his Department and in public bodies ultimately answerable to him, who have powers of search and entry, with regard to surveillance techniques and methods of gaining entry into business premises and private homes.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
North-West Thames Regional Health Authority
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of the £3·4 million needed to meet the difference between the Clegg award to ancillary staffs and ambulance men and the funding by his Department will need to be found by the North-West Thames regional health authority.
I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Price) on 22 October.—[vol. 972, c. 95–6.]