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Written Answers

Volume 973: debated on Monday 5 November 1979

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 5 November 1979

Industry

National Enterprise Board

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he last met the chairman of the National Enterprise Board.

My right hon. Friend last met the chairman of the National Enterprise Board on 25 October.

British Steel Corporation

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement, giving full details, of the plans which he has submitted to the British Steel Corporation for the hiving off of profitable sectors belonging to the Corporation.

My right hon. Friend has submitted no such plans. The future of individual sectors or subsidiaries is a matter for the British Steel Corporation, taking into account the future of its mainline business and the need for the Corporation to operate efficiently and commercially.

Co-Operative Development Agency

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many enterprises have been assisted by the Co-operative Development Agency since the Co-operative Development Agency Act was passed; how many of these enterprises are still in operation; and what is the total number of jobs in these enterprises.

This is a matter for the Agency itself. However, the Agency informs me that it has given advice or assistance to five existing co-operatives, 54 prospective co-operatives and seven companies. One of the existing co-operatives is no longer trading, and the other four employ some 130 people. Of the prospective co-operatives, four are now set up, employing some 30 people; six are being set up and should employ some 80 to 90 people; and the Agency expects several others to be set up. Of the seven companies, the Agency hopes that three can be converted to co- operatives, safeguarding some 350 jobs. The consequence for employment of advice given to other bodies, and in particular to local authorities, cannot be quantified.

Wales Trades Union Congress

asked the Secretary or State for Industry what steps he has taken to respond to the Points made by the Wales Trades Union Congress deputation in the meeting held at 10 Downing Street on 29 October.

Members of the Government welcomed the opportunity of discussions with the Wales TUC on 29 October, and have taken careful note of all points made at that meeting.

Ferranti Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what were the annual profits of Ferranti Ltd. in each of the last two financial years prior to the National Enterprise Board acquiring a shareholding in the company; what have been the profits in each year since then; and what is the value of each of these annual profits expressed at 1977 price levels.

Textile Industry (Redundancies)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many workers have been declared redundant in the textile industry in the Northern region during the last 12 months; what proposals he has to halt the decline in the industry; and if he will make a statement.

According to the available information, in the 12 months to 30 September 1979 2,400 jobs were lost in the textile and clothing industry in the Northern region, mainly in textiles. The Government are taking such steps as are open to them in the context of their economic policies and the multifibre arrangement to secure a framework within which individual companies may, through their own endeavours, operate profitably.

Industrial Development Certificates

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will reintroduce industrial development certificates for factories of less than 50,000 sq. ft.

Inmos Project

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will list the local authorities which have made representations regarding the siting of the Inmos project.

So far as I can ascertain in the time available the authorities listed below have made representations to my Department. Other authorities may have made representations to the National Enterprise Board or the company, but that is not a matter for me.

  • Thornaby on Tees
  • Cardiff
  • Merseyside
  • Harrogate and Knaresborough
  • Tayside
  • Dundee
  • Greater Manchester
  • Carrick
  • Plymouth
  • Strathclyde
  • Avon
  • Tyne and Wear
  • Durham County
  • Greater London
  • Blaeneau Gwent
  • Salford
  • Skelmersdale
  • Trafford
  • Southampton
  • Sunderland
  • West Yorkshire
  • Corby
  • Barnsley
  • Aberdeen
  • Yorkshire and Humberside
  • Norfolk
  • Manchester City

Meriden Motor Cycle Co-Operative

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether the Meriden motor cycle co-operative has paid the interest amounting to £1¼ million due to Her Majesty's Government on 30 June.

Advisory And Development Bodies

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what proposals he has to reduce the number of industrial advisory and development bodies to which he appoints members; and what consideration he has given to transferring the patronage and cost of those that remain to the industries concerned.

[pursuant to his reply, 31 October 1979, c. 548]: I expect the number of these bodies to be reduced by three or four within the next few months. The transfer of patronage and cost to industry is being considered where this is a relevant possibility.

Bingham Report

asked the Attorney-General if he is satisfied with the resources available to the Director of Public Prosecutions; and if he considers that an increase in those resources would speed up consideration of the Bingham report.

The resources of the Director of Public Prosecutions is a matter which I keep under continuous review. The consideration of the Bingham report would not be speeded up by any increase in them.

asked the Attorney-General how long in total he expects the Director of Public Prosecutions to consider the evidence from the Bingham report before deciding whether or not to recommend prosecution.

I am unable to estimate how long it will take the Director to conclude his consideration of matters raised in this long and complex report.

Law Of Contempt

asked the Attorney-General when he intends to legislate on the law of contempt.

As stated in the Queen's Speech, the Government intend to introduce a Bill during this Session. It is not yet possible to estimate precisely when the Bill will be ready for introduction.

Rhodesia (Sanction-Breaking)

asked the Attorney-General how long the Director of Public Prosecutions took to consider the evidence in the case of each of the following companies found guilty of breaches of Rhodesian sanctions orders: Superheaters Ltd., Frank Knowles & Co. Ltd., Leesona Ltd., Priest Lindley Ltd., James Mackie and Sons Ltd., Taylor and Hargreaves, Lustre Fibres Ltd., Vapormatic Ltd., Platt Bros., Ellisons Tufting Machinery Co., CZ Scientific Instruments Ltd., Compair Industrial Ltd., and Beck and Co.

The value of information of the type requested would not be commensurate with the cost and use of manpower involved in obtaining it.

Squatters (Belfast)

asked the Attorney-General what estimates he has of the number of eviction orders granted against squatters in each district of Belfast in 1978; and what is the number of those orders which were executed.

It is not clear from the question what figures the hon. Member is seeking. I have therefore, dealt with the question on the basis of the number of possession orders granted by the enforcement of judgments office following lodgement of application for enforcement of warrants.The figures are as follows:

1978
DistrictPossession Orders madeEvictions carried out
North Belfast11
South Belfast21
East Belfast00
West Belfast32

Civil Service

Purchasing Contracts

asked the Minister for the Civil Service what proportion of the purchasing contracts issued by his Department in 1978–79 was by means of (a) selective tender, (b) open tender and (c) single tender.

Details of contracts for computer equipment and services awarded by the Civil Service Department in 1978–79 are as follows:

Proportion
By numberBy value
(a) selective tender32·8%16·1%
(b) open tender——
(c) single tender67·2%83·9%
Details of purchasing contracts awarded by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, for which I am also responsible, in 1978–79 are as follows:
Proportion
By numberBy value
(a) selective tender86%74%
(b) open tender——
(c) single tender14%26%

Comptroller And Auditor General

asked the Minister for the Civil Service, how many persons are employed in the office of the Comptroller and Auditor General; and how many are qualified chartered accountants.

The present strength of Exchequer and Audit Department is 672, of whom 574 are audit staff and the remainder are clerical, typing and other supporting staff. Since 1975 all new recruits have been required to qualify as members of the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy whose courses and examinations are particularly relevant to the accounting and audit requirements of the public sector. All new entrants are graduates. At present, the Department has one chartered accountant and 13 other staff who are qualified members of a professional accountancy body or the Chartered Institute of Secretaries and Administrators. A further 170 are at various stages of training for such qualifications. Prior to 1975 all audit staff had to pass external examinations following a comprehensive training programme specially designed to meet the Department's needs but not leading to a recognised accountancy qualification.

Education And Science

Capitation Allowances

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Ormskirk (Mr. Kilroy-Silk) on 18 June, he will now seek to obtain from each local education authority information on its capitation allowance, for pupils both at primary and secondary schools in England and Wales; and if he will list it in the Official Report.

Inner London Education Authority

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science

1970197119721973197419751976197719781979
per cent.
One child family
Gross earnings…36·742·641·739·337·539·640·349·946·240·8
Net earnings…46·854·052·350·549·854·355·367·162·754·5
Two child family
Gross earnings…45·352·651·348·245·948·549·359·755·348·3
Net earnings…56·464·662·760·559·365·265·978·373·965·2
Three child family
Gross earnings…53·862·560·957·254·457·558·369·464·356·8
Net earnings…66·375·273·070·768·775·976·289·385·275·9
Four child family
Gross earnings…62·472·570·566·162·866·467·379·173·364·8
Net earnings…74·784·382·079·676·985·585·399·395·686·5
Notes:
1. The qualifying levels for free school meals are those laid down in the Department's Provision of Milk and Meals Regulation 1969 as amended.
2. Gross earnings for all years up to and including 1978 are the mean of the New Earnings Survey estimates of average earnings of full-time adult male manual workers for the April of each year and the April of the following year. The figure for 1979 is the April 1979 NES figure updated to July 1979 by the monthly index of average earnings. This is the latest available figure. It is not possible to provide an estimate for September and the final column is not comparable with the rest of the table.
3. Net earnings up to 1976 have been taken as "gross earnings" less income tax and national insurance. The income tax calculations assume that the families were collecting family allowance but these payments have not been included in the figures for gross or net earnings. Nor have child benefit allowances been included in gross or net pay for 1977 and later.
4. For the purposes of calculating income tax the ages of the children have been taken as:
One under 11;
One under 11 and one between 11 and 16;
Two under 11 and one between 11 and 16;
Two under 11, one between 11 and 16 and one over 16.
5. The percentages are based on the point on the school meals remission scale at which the parent is no longer entitled to free school meals for any child.
6. The figures for years up to 1975 differ slightly from those given in a written answer on 5 July 1979 in reply to a question from the hon. Member for Birkenhead (Mr. Field)—[Vol. 969, c. 651–52.] The present figures embody minor revisions of previous data.

Powdered Baby Milk

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what research the Medical Research Council has carried out into the risks involved in using powdered baby milk when there

if he is satisfied with the present system of financing of the Inner London Education Authority; and if he has any proposals for altering it.

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list the qualifying levels for free school meals as a percentage of (a) gross and (b) net average earnings, for families with one, two, three and four children, and for each year since 1970, including an estimate for September.

The information is as follows:are inadequate water storage and refrigeration facilities available.

The Medical Research Council has conducted research into the bacterial contamination of traditional weaning foods compared with powdered baby milk in a rural environment in West Africa. The risk of contamination was found to be similar for each type of food. A study revealed the primary problem to be the quality of the water supply and the prevailing state of hygiene, not the nature of the food.

Home Department

Civil Defence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the present level of civil defence in the United Kingdom.

Immigration Rules

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will consult Commonwealth countries before proposing any changes to the existing immigration rules.

While I have no plans for formal consultations, my hon. Friend the Minister of State and I are always ready to meet Ministers in the Governments, and diplomatic representatives, of the countries mainly concerned, and frequently do so. My hon. Friend has recently returned from a visit to the Indian sub-continent in which a number of useful discussions took place.

Oil Rig Platforms (Television Interference)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the consequent interference to television reception over a wide area, he will introduce legislation to prohibit oil rig platforms from lying offshore in coastal waters for long periods after overhaul.

The BBC and IBA tell me that they are not aware of any television reception problems arising from this source. If my hon. Friend will send me details of any complaints he has received, I will arrange for them to be investigated.

Forensic Science Laboratories

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the locations of his Department's forensic science laboratories and the geographical areas they cover.

There are six Home Office forensic science laboratories located at Aldermaston, Birmingham, Chepstow, Chorley, Nottingham and Wetherby which serve those police forces in England and Wales outside the catchment area of the Metropolitan Police laboratory. In addition, there is a Home Office central research establishment at Aldermaston which provides specialised services for all laboratories. The table below shows the police force areas served by each laboratory.

Laboratory and Catchment Area

Aldermaston:
Bedfordshire, Hampshire, Thames Valley.
Birmingham:
West Mercia, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Warwickshire.
Chepstow:
Gloucestershire, Wiltshire, Dorset, Avon and Somerset, Devon and Cornwall, Dyfed-Powys, Gwent, South Wales.
Chorley:
North Wales, Cheshire, Merseyside, Greater Manchester, Lancashire, Cumbria.
Nottingham:
Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northamptonshire, Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, Suffolk.
Wetherby:
Northumbria, Durham, Cleveland, North Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Humberside.

Metropolitan Police Forensic Science Laboratory

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what geographical areas are covered by the Metropolitan Police forensic science laboratory; what is the annual cost of the operation; and if any part of this is met by his Department or forces outside the metropolitan area but serviced by the laboratory;(2) if he is satisfied with the operation of the fire investigation unit of the Metropolitan Police forensic science laboratory; and if he has any plans to devolve the work of the unit;(3) if he has any plans for devolving the work of the Metropolitan Police forensic science laboratory; and if he will make a statement;(4) if he is satisfied with the performance of the Metropolitan Police forensic science laboratory; and if he will make a statement.

The Metropolitan Police forensic science laboratory serves, in addition to the Metropolitan Police district, the areas covered by the City of London, Surrey, Sussex, Kent, Essex and Hertfordshire constabularies. In addition, work is carried out from time to time at the request of central Government Departments and of British Protectorate police forces. In 1978–9, the cost of the operation was £3,215,014, of which £1,013,710 was borne on behalf of the Home Counties' forces by the Home Office under common police services arrangements.The Commissioner has decided to relieve the Metropolitan Police forensic science laboratory of responsibility for providing a service to police forces in the Home Counties of Kent, Surrey, Sussex, Essex and Hertfordshire. This work, including the relevant part of the work of the fire investigation unit, will be transferred over a period to the laboratories of the Home Office forensic science service. The Commissioner regards the performance of the Metropolitan Police forensic science laboratory, including that of the fire investigation unit, in providing a technical support service to the police as excellent and wishes me to place on record his appreciation of the high standard of work carried out by the laboratory's staff.

Public Officials (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what training is given to officers in his Department and in public bodies ultimately answerable to him, who have powers of search and entry, with regard to surveillance techniques and methods of gaining entry into premises.

Surveillance techniques are not used by the Home Office officials mentioned in the answer which I gave to a question by my hon. Friend on 25 October, and the manner in which their powers of entry are exercised is not such as to require special training.—[Vol. 972, c. 249–50.]I understand that appropriate training in radio surveillance techniques and the execution of search warrants is given to Post Office officials who act as my agents under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1949, and that the Gaming Board for Great Britain provides appropriate training to its inspectors who have certain powers to enter and inspect premises under the Gaming Act 1968.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish a complete list of the regulations, laws and statutory instruments which give rights of entry over private land and buildings as well as shops, offices and other buildings for the purposes of search and seizure to Government inspectors and officials and others employed in local government and statutory undertakings.

I refer my hon. Friend to the information contained in appendix F to memorandum No. 111 of the Home Office evidence to the Royal Commission on criminal procedure, a copy of which is in the Library of the House.

Latin American Refugees

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what conclusions he has come to regarding the 161 Latin American refugees who have applied for visas and concerning whom representations have been made to him by the Chilean human rights committee; and if he will make a statement.

The number of applications still outstanding on 31 October 1979 was 125. These will be considered under the criteria for Latin American refugees obtaining before my announcement of 29 October.

Fire Services (Redundancies)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, in the light of redundancy plans currently being prepared by local fire services, if he will issue a circular advising fire authorities that they should consider any reduction in their work force only by voluntary redundancy and natural wastage rather than by compulsory redundancy.

No. I would expect any necessary advice to be issued by the local authorities conditions of service advisory board.

Prisons (Mufti Teams)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will order a public inquiry into the use of the prison minimum use of force tactical intervention squad.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report the guidelines on the handling of demonstrations and other acts of concerted indiscipline, including tactics and training in the use of minimum force, issued to governors and wardens of prison service establishments in February 1978.

No. This is confidential guidance relating to the security and control of prison service establishments.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if male prison officers were used against women prisoners on 4 September 1979 when the prison minimum use of force tactical intervention squad was deployed; and, if so, how many were used, and on whose authority.

Yes. Five male prison officers removed a barricade which two female inmates, armed with a knife, had erected on 3 September and re-located the inmates. The officers acted under the authority of the acting governor.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will give full details of the circumstances which led to the use of the prison minimum use of force tactical intervention squad at Gartree on 6 October 1978, Hull on 11 April 1979, Styal on 4 September 1979, Lewes on 1 November 1978, Camp Hill on 20 September 1979, and Brixton on 26 September 1979; how many prisoners were involved in each case; how many members of the minimum use of force tactical intervention squad were involved in each case and which prisons they came from; how many prisoners and prison officers were injured on each occasion; and how many needed medical or hospital treatment.

At about midnight on 5 October 1978, teams of prison officers equipped and trained in the use of minimum force to retain control of prison service establishments (MUFTI teams) sought to breach barricades erected in A, B and D wings of Gartree prison by inmates who were destroying furnishings and fabric and throwing missiles. No inmate was injured by the teams, who were unable to breach the barricades because of missiles and boiling water thrown by inmates. A record distinguishing among the officers injured at the prison those who were members of teams is not readily available.At Hull prison on 11 April 1979, 68 inmates in C wing began to destroy furnishings and fabric and throw missiles at staff, who were outnumbered and withdrew; 23 of the inmates, who wished to desist from indiscipline, were allowed to leave the wing. The remaining inmates dispersed to their cells when a MUFTI team of 22 officers from Hull succeeded, despite a hail of missiles, in breaching barricades. No officer or inmate was injured during the engagement.At Styal prison on 3 September 1979 two inmates armed with a knife barricaded themselves in an office, where they remained until the evening of 4 September when a MUFTI team of five officers from Manchester prison removed the barricade and relocated the inmates, without receiving or causing any injury.At Lewes Prison on 1 November 1978, 94 inmates began a sit-down demonstration in the dining hall which they continued into 2 November, when some sought unsuccessfully to gain access to the roof. The number of prison officers at the prison during the demonstration varied within a maximum of 134, including MUFTI teams of 26 and 10 from Brixton and Wandsworth prisons respectively. The demonstration ceased on 2 November without physical contact between prison officers and inmates, none of whom was injured.At Camp Hill prison on 20 September 1979, 46 inmates staged a sit-down demonstration in St. George's Hall. MUFTI teams totalling 20 officers from Albany and Parkhurst prison were deployed out of sight of the inmates. When other officers entered the hall, the demonstration ceased. No officer or inmate was injured.At Brixton prison on 26 September 1979, 22 inmates in the secure unit engaged in a sit-down demonstration. A MUFTI team of 20 officers from Brixton, and one of 24 officers from Wandsworth prison, were standing by. The inmates ceased their demonstration when asked to do so, without the teams entering the unit No officer or inmate was injured.

Immigration

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list the number and country of origin, of husbands and fiancés gaining entry to Great Britain lawfully whose wives or fiancées have (a) been born in Great Britain and (b) were born elsewhere, and the equivalent figures for wives and fiancées gaining entry, over each of the last 10 years, and what these numbers represent as a percentage of the immigrant population as a whole.

Information on acceptances for settlement by reason of marriage of men and women analysed by citizenship/nationality is published annually in "Control of Immigration Statistics—tables 3, 4, 12 and 13 of the issue for 1978, Cmnd. 7565. Information on the age, sex and ethnic group of the population of New Commonwealth and Pakistani ethnic origin is published in "Population Trends", No. 9, pages 4–7, but precise information by reference to the birth place of their spouses on those accepted for settlement on marriage is not available centrally.

Arts Council (Grants)

30.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what representations he has received about cuts in Arts Council grants to the theatre.

I have received many representations about the level of central Government funds available to the Arts Council. It is for the Arts Council to decide how to allocate those funds.

Arts (Patronage)

29.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what action the Government are taking to encourage industrial, commercial and other private patronage of the arts.

Support from the private sector will become increasingly important and the key to development in the arts, while public support will of course continue. I have stated this view and have been impressed by the constructive response from companies and individuals on a number of occasions in which the tax changes in my right hon. and learned Friend's Budget have undoubtedly played an important part.

House Of Commons

Scottish Affairs

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will make a statement on the present position regarding the all-party talks on Scottish affairs; and when he expects to make his first report to hon. Members.

I have invited the political parties which have Members representing Scottish constituencies to take part in talks, and I am waiting for their replies.

Education Bill

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what representations he has received from organisations concerned with education about lack of time between the publication of the Education Bill and the Second Reading debate; and what response he has made.

Wales

Employment (Carmarthen Bay)

13.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what representations he has received about future employment prospects in the Carmarthen Bay area.

I have not received representations about future employment prospects as such, but I have received representations about the future of the Carmarthen Bay power station.

Shotton

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what reply he gave to the Wales Trades Union Congress deputation on Monday 29 October at 10 Downing Street regarding steelmaking at Shotton.

I said that the Government were considering remedial measures for the Shotton area and would make an announcement after the British Steel Corporation had taken a final decision on the closure question. Earlier my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister had made it clear that the future of steelmaking at Shotton was for the British Steel Corporation to decide.

Selective Financial Assistance

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what has been the total cost each year of selective financial assistance granted in each Welsh county for the period 1976 to 1979.

The totals of selective financial assistance under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 paid in each Welsh county during the financial years 1976 to 1979 are as follows:

Clwyd
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
1976672
1977225
1978660
1979918
Gwynedd
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
1976262
1977132
197895
1979148
Powys
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
197621
197745
197840
197974
Dyfed
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
1976733
1977674
19781,026
1979342
Mid Glamorgan
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
19764,559
19772,261
1978541
1979739
South Glamorgan
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
1976978
1977281
1978707
1979420
West Glamorgan
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
1976533
197790
1978210
1979164
Gwent
Year Ending 31 MarchPayment £'000
19761,814
19772,203
19781,204
19791,216

Education (Expenditure)

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what representations he has received from local education authorities in Wales concerning cuts in the education services which they are obliged to impose because of Government cuts in public expenditure.

Both my right hon. Friend and I have discussed the implications of the revised expenditure limits for this year and next with representatives of the Welsh joint education committee.

A470

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what effect there will be on the time scale for the construction of the new A470 from Fiddlers Elbow to Merthyr Tydfil as a result of the proposed cuts in roads expenditure for Wales.

Blood Transfusion Unit, Rhydlafar

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will take steps as soon as possible to provide better accommodation and facilities for the blood transfusion unit now in buildings at Rhydlafar near Cardiff.

Short-term improvements in the existing blood transfusion centre at Rhydlafar are planned. My right hon. Friend intends that a new centre should be built when resources permit.

Building Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what steps he proposes to take to improve the state of the building and construction industry in Wales; and if he will make a statement.

Much of the construction industry operates on a United Kingdom basis and the steps taken by the Government to place the economy on a sound footing have benefits for the construction industry in Wales no less than for the country as a whole. In Wales these measures, combined with the Government's proposal for more flexible improvement and repair grants announced last week, should bring increased work to the smaller building firms.

Unemployment (Arfon)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what plans he has to counter the anticipated sharp increase in unemployment in the Arfon area due to the culmination of work on the CEGB project at Dinorwig.

Employment at Dinorwig at present is just under 2,500 and is not expected to be substantially less until 1981. I am keeping the position under close review.

Radioactive Waste

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what precise locations in Wales are currently being considered as possible sites for a geological research programme into the possibility of disposing of radioactive waste underground.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 29 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 378.]

Psychiatric Nurses

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many community psychiatric nurses are regarded by his Department as being the recommended national norm for 100,000 population in Wales.

There are no recommended national staffing norms for community psychiatric nurses.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many community psychiatric nurses are in post in Wales at present; and whether this reflects the need as assessed by his Department.

At July 1979 there were 106 community psychiatric nurses in post. It is for health authorities to assess their own staffing needs according to their circumstances.

Colleges Of Education

asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether he will give an assurance that the Government have no current proposals to close any colleges of education in Wales.

Housing Stock

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a table showing for each of the 37 district councils in Wales the proportion of the total housing stock represented by second homes.

Employment

Departmental Staff (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what training is given to officers in his Department and in public bodies ultimately answerable to him, who have powers of search and entry, with regard to surveillance techniques and methods of gaining entry into premises.

Women (Hours Of Work)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he will reconsider his rejection of the bakers' union's objection to night work on social grounds for women, and also to women starting work at 3 am, 4 am and 5 am;(2) if he will not accede to any representations from the Equal Opportunities Commission that a woman is being deprived by not being allowed, by present legislation, to commence work at the hour of 3 a.m.

I have asked the Health and Safety Commission to consider whether, in the light of the report of the Equal Opportunities Commission, the existing legislation on nightwork in industry needs amendment. I am awaiting its reply.

Jarrow

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies have been notified in the Jarrow constituency since May; and when he anticipates those involved will find alternative employment.

Redundancy Payments

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what is the current surplus in the redundancy payments fund; how this compares with the surplus for each year since the fund's inception; and what he estimates will be the level of the surplus in the next accounting year;(2) if outgoings from the redundancy payments fund are treated as public expenditure;(3) when he proposes to lay the order to increase the redundancy payment rebate to employers.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will update the answer given to the right hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, South (Mr. Ashley) Official Report, 19 June 1978, columns 55–6, concerning the length of time for which disabled persons are unemployed.

Health And Safety At Work Etc Act

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will take steps to revise thoroughly the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act in relation to agriculture.

[pursuant to his reply, 30 October 1979, c. 400]: My right hon. Friend has no plans to revise the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 with regard to agriculture.

Energy

Prototype Fast Reactor

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he is satisfied with the standards and operation of the pressure vessels at the prototype fast reactor.

The only vessels of high pressure at the prototype fast reactor (PFR) are those associated with the conventional steam generating plant. I am assured that the standards and operation of all pressure vessels at the PFR are maintained within the requirements of the Atomic Energy Act, the Factories Acts, and the practices of the power industry. During the present shutdown of the PFR, statutory tests of the pressure vessels are being carried out as required by the Acts.

Energy Sources (Utilisation)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he intends to introduce financial incentives for householders to instal equipment exploiting renewable sources of energy such as wind and solar power.

No. In view of the current state of the technology involved and the need to reduce public expenditure, the Government do not intend to provide financial incentives for householders to instal equipment exploiting renewable sources of energy.

Energy Loss

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what measures he proposes to eliminate energy loss in plant and machinery in hard water areas.

Energy losses in plant due to hard water are mainly caused by scaling in heat exchanges and boiler. There are recommended practices on water treatment and descaling, and advice on these is already available from manufacturers, consultants and Government. Additional information will be given for example in proposed new fuel efficiency booklets on boiler plant.

Nuclear Power Stations

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how much it costs to build one nuclear power station of each reactor type; how many he anticipates commissioning; and how much will be spent this year on the development of alternative sources of energy.

The Central Electricity Generating Board's estimates of the construction costs of future nuclear stations are based on updating the work done by the National Nuclear Corporation in the thermal reactor assessment—published in 1977. They indicate costs of £900–£1,000 million for an AGR of 1320 MW, and £1,400–£1,500 million for a PWR of 2200 MW—1979 price levels. In the assessment, station capacities were selected for the purposes of the cost estimate studies only.Announcements about future orders will be made as appropriate. The Department of Energy's expenditure on alternative sources of energy—solar, wave, wind, geothermal and tidal—is estimated to be about £7 million in the current financial year.

Industrial Diseases (Compensation Claims)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement about the current state of progress in the development of his Department's policy for providing compensation for men who were obliged to commute claims for compensation for industrial diseases contracted in the coal mining industry under legislation which has now been superseded.

The conditions for benefit under the coal pneumoconiosis compensation scheme are a matter for the National Coal Board and the mining unions. I understand that men who commuted their benefit indemnified their employers against further liability and are therefore disqualified from benefit under the present scheme.

Petrol Supplies

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what talks he has held with the petrol companies concerning their proposals to close all petrol outlets in rural areas of Wales which sell less than 75,000 gallons of petrol a year; and what action he intends to take.

I am not aware of any such plans by the oil companies. As I said on 1 November 1979 in reply to the hon. Member's related question—Official Report, c. 625—the oil companies concerned have given assurances that they will continue to supply small outlets who wish them to do so while alternative sources of supply are being sought. If filling stations are unable to find alternative suppliers, and other petrol stations are not available within a reasonable distance, the companies have indicated that they will be prepared to consider longer term arrangements to ensure reasonable availability of petrol supplies in rural areas.

National Finance

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will consider a dispensation of the increased rate of value added tax on showground admissions in the special circumstances which apply to agricultural societies.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the loss of value added tax resulting from strikes in British industry in the last 12 months.

It is not possible to make an estimate of the increase or decrease in VAT revenue. Value added tax is a tax on expenditure. The connection between variations in expenditure and variations from whatever cause in output and earnings is tenuous.

Value Added Tax (Bloodstock Industry)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representations he has received from representatives of the United Kingdom bloodstock industry about the imposition of value added tax upon sale of horses and the effect of this tax upon the industry; and whether he proposes to take any action in this matter.

On 2 July, I met a deputation representing the bloodstock interests, led by my hon. Friend the Member for Richmond, Yorks (Sir T. Kitson) and further written representations have since been received, expressing grave fears of injury to the industry as a result of the application of value added tax. Notwithstanding the success of the autumn sales of bloodstock in the United Kingdom, the Government recognise, and take very seriously, the competitive disadvantages suffered by the United Kingdom industry as a result of certain aspects of the VAT treatment of blood-stock and training fees in France and Ireland which are not in conformity with Community VAT law. As to the action we are taking, I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to my right hon. Friend the Member for Taunton (Mr. du Cann) on 2 November.—[Vol. 972, c. 637.]

Transport Drivers (Taxation Allowance)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will review the taxation allowance made to transport drivers for being away from home for long periods of the day and overnight; if he will simplify the methods of claiming these allowances; and if he will make a statement.

Payments of a reasonable amount made to transport drivers for the extra expenses they incur in being away from home and their normal place of employment in the performance of their duties are not taxed. The Inland Revenue will consider any suggestions for simplifying methods of claiming tax relief.

Tax Exemption Certificates (Building And Construction Industry)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what representation he has received from the building and construction industry regarding the tax exemption certificates; and if he will make a statement.

A number of representations have been received about various aspects of the subcontractor deduction scheme, including the certificates. I propose to issue a consultative document in the near future setting out some possible changes to the scheme with a view to introducing amending legislation.

Corporation Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the present rate of interest charged on the balance of corporation tax which becomes payable from the reckonable date; and if there are any plans to increase it.

Interest on any balance of corporation tax paid after the reckonable date is charged at the current prescribed rate of 9 per cent. The rate of interest is kept under regular review.

European Community Budget

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what are the latest estimated net receipts and contributions for each EEC country from or to the EEC budget for the last two full years; and what are the estimates for the next two full years.

Share Ownership

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many companies up until the end of October have applied to the Inland Revenue for permission to implement their own shares scheme under the 1978 Act; how many have been approved; how many are in the course of approval; and how many have been refused.

By the end of October, 170 companies had submitted profit sharing schemes to the Inland Revenue for approval under the Finance Act 1978 provisions; 55 of these schemes have been formally approved and the remaining 115 are still under discussion. In no case has approval been formally refused.

Farmers (Tax Arrangements)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total value of farmers' special tax arrangements in each year since 1969.

Asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what training is given to officers of the Inland Revenue and Customs and Excise with regard to surveillance techniques and raids on business premises and private homes.

[pursuant to his reply, 1 November 1979, c. 637]:The information requested is as follows:

Inland Revenue

In view of the relatively few searches carried out under section 20C of the Taxes Management Act 1970, formal training would not be justified. Before each search, thorough briefing is given by experienced senior officers taking full account of the particular circumstances of the case.

Customs and Excise

The basic theoretical and practical aspects of surveillance techniques and the search of premises are included in the initial instruction of officers specially selected for investigation work. Those engaged on the most serious smuggling and tax evasion cases receive further special training in mobile surveillance.

This basic training includes the relevant law and administrative procedures and practical instruction on the search of business premises and private homes with the minimum of disturbance to members of the public.

Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

Sheepmeat

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will institute an investigation by his Department into sheepmeat distribution margins.

Herring Fishing

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what evidence exists of foreign fishing boats fishing for herring in United Kingdom waters during the ban on herring fishing.

Regular patrols are undertaken by United Kingdom fishery protection vessels within British fishery limits. They have found no recent evidence of foreign vessels fishing for herring in those areas of United Kingdom waters where such fishing is banned.

Common Fisheries Policy

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is yet in a position, arising out of his talks on 29 and 30 October, to indicate when he expects to reach a final agreement with other member States in the EEC on the renegotiation of the common fisheries policy.

I hope that at the next meeting of the Fisheries Council on 3–4 December a fresh start will be made on negotiation of a revised common fisheries policy and that this can be completed in the course of 1980.

asked the Minister of State of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with existing United Kingdom regulations for the conservation of fish stocks and their effectiveness.

The Government stand ready to introduce further national measures to conserve fish stocks in United Kingdom waters if these should prove necessary.

Agricultural Wages Board

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he is satisfied with the working of the Agricultural Wages Board.

The Secretary of State for Wales and I are satisfied that the Board is fulfilling the statutory responsibilities placed upon it by the Agricultural Wages Act 1948.

Agricultural Workers

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) what percentage of full-time agricultural workers earn (a) less than £40, (b) £40 to £50, (c) £50 to £60, (d) £60 to £70, (e) £70 to £80, (f) £80 to £90, and (g) above £90 per week; (2) what is the estimated value of (a) cheap or free food and (b) cheap or free accommodation given to agricultural workers.

The available information is that contained in "Agricultural Labour in England and Wales 1978" which is published by my Ministry, and a copy of which is in the Library of the House.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what percentage of agricultural workers earn less than national average earnings (a) in England and Wales, (b) in Scotland, (c) in Northern Ireland and (d) in the United Kingdom.

Directly comparable information is not available. A comparison of data from the Department of Employment's annual survey of manual workers in industry in the United Kingdom and data from wages and employment enquiries into earnings in agriculture gives the following:

Percentage of whole-time agricultural workers with average weekly earnings below United Kingdom average weekly earnings of manual workers in industry
Country
England and Wales88
Scotland91
N. Ireland94
United Kingdom89
AVERAGE HOURLY EARNINGS OF FULL-TIME REGULAR MALE WORKERS IN 1977
National currencyPenceMonth of survey
Denmark…………26·80 DKR248October
Netherlands…………10·45 HFL242October
Belgium…………137·61 BFR220October
West Germany…………8·48 DM209September
France…………11·93 FF139October
Italy…………1,832 LIR119September
Luxembourg…………72·40 LFR116September
United Kingdom…………1·11 UK£111October
Irish Republic…………0·99 IR£99November
The data have been converted from national currencies into sterling at the exchange rate prevailing during the month of the survey. Care is needed in interpreting these figures because of differences
Minimum weekly rateStandard weekly hours
£
England and Wales (Ordinary grade)…………48·5040
Scotland (General worker)…………49·0040*
Northern Ireland (All workers)…………48·5040
* Annual average figure.
Comparable rates in other member States are not readily available.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food by how much (a) average earnings for agricultural workers and (b) average farm incomes have risen in each year since 1969.

Notes

1. The average earnings of agricultural workers used are those for male workers aged 20 and above in the year ending March 1979 i.e. with October 1978 as the mid-point.

2. Earnings figures for industrial workers relate to one pay week in October 1978 and are for manual men of 21 years and above in all industries covered by the survey. The survey excludes coal mining, British Rail, London Transport, the shipping service, the distributive trades, the catering trade, the entertainment industries, commerce and banking, and domestic service.

asked the Minister of Agriculture. Fisheries and Food what are the current (a) average earnings and (b) basic wages for agricultural workers in each of the nine member States of the Community.

The most recent data from the statistical office of the European Community giving average earnings in agriculture on a comparable basis in the EEC member States relate to autumn 1977 and were as follows:in the levels of national prices and fluctuations in exchange rates.The current prescribed minimum rates for whole-time adult workers aged 20 years and above in the United Kingdom are as follows:

The following table shows for England and Wales the annual change in average annual earnings of whole-time hired male agricultural workers between 1969 and 1978, and the annual change in net income of farmer and spouse on full-time farms averaged over all types of farms (excluding horticulture) between 1971–72 and 1977–78:

AVERAGE TOTAL EARNING OF WHOLE-TIME HIRED MEN AGED 20 YEARS AND ABOVE*
CalendarChange in average total earnings over previous year
years£ per yearPer cent.
1970+67·08+7
1971+127·40+13
1972+135·72+12
1973+205·40+17
1974+358·80+25
1975+448·76+25
1976+382·20+17
1977+225·68+9
1978+361·92+13
ENGLAND AND WALES; AVERAGE NET INCOME OF FARMER AND SPOUSE PER FULL-TIME FARM (EXCLUDING HORTICULTURE)†
March-FebruaryChange in net farm income over previous year
years£ per yearPer cent.
1970–71Figure not available on comparative basis
1971–72
1972–73+1,177+33
1973–74+1,519+31
1974–75-585-9
1975–76+2,691+46
1976–77+543+6
1977–78-553-5
1978–79Not yet available
*Source: Wages and employment inquiry. Average total earnings including payments in kind.
† Farm management survey: Net income is the return to the farmer and spouse for their manual and managerial labour and the return on their tenant-type assets; it excludes stock appreciation of breeding livestock. Interest on farm borrowings has not been charged. Changes have been prepared from two-year identical samples.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the gap in terms of cash, between the average earnings of agricultural workers and average industrial earnings in each year since 1969.

Directly comparable information is not available. A comparison of data for male workers aged 21 years and over from the Department of Employment's annual survey of manual workers in industry in the United Kingdom and data relating to male agricultural workers aged 20 years and over from the Ministry's wages and employment inquiry gives the following cash differences for the years requested:—

£
19697·22
19708·81
19719·39
197211·49
197311·71
197412·12
197514·06
197615·39
197716·61
197819·65

Notes:

1. The average earnings of agricultural workers used are those for male workers aged 20 and above in the year ending March 1979 i.e. with October 1978 as the mid-point.

2. Earnings figures for industrial workers relate to one pay week in October 1978 and are for manual men of 21 years and above in all industries covered by the survey. The survey excludes coal mining, British Rail, London Transport, the shipping service, the distributive trades, the catering trade, the entertainment industries, commerce and banking, and domestic service.

Public Expenditure

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what the value of public expenditure in the agriculture industry in each year since 1969 (a) at current prices and (b) at constant 1979 survey prices.

Public expenditure on agriculture from 1969 to date at 1979 survey prices is as follows:

£m
1969–70825
1970–71836
1971–72943
1972–73831
1973–741,111
1974–751,205
1975–761,172
1976–77697
1977–78639
1978–79746
1979–80896
Some of this expenditure, e.g. monetary compensatory amounts, benefits consumers and overseas exporting interests rather than producers. To extract comparable figures at current prices would involve disproportionate cost.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he intends to make any cuts in the level of public expenditure for the agriculture industry: and, if so, in which specific areas.

The White Paper "The Government's Expenditure Plans, 1980–81"—Cmnd. 7746—shows that the expenditure provision for agriculture, fisheries, food and forestry will rise from £986 million in 1979–80 to £993 million in 1980–81. These figures include an increase in the net provision for agricultural expenditure. They allow for a rise in expenditure on EEC-financed market support policies and for savings from sales of land, from a decline in the uptake of some grants and subsidies—eg expenditure on brucellosis eradication as the eradication campaign nears completion—and from economies in some services such as research and development.

Purchasing Contracts

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what proportion of the purchasing contracts issued by his Department in 1978–79 was by means of (a) selective tender, (b) open tender and (c) single tender.

I regret that this information is not readily available and could not be provided without incurring disproportionate expense.

Dairy And Sugar Industries

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he intends to have meetings with the representatives of the dairy and sugar industries with a view to curbing the possibility of surpluses in the EEC which could have serious consequences for these industries in the United Kingdom.

I maintain frequent contact with representatives of the dairy and sugar industries on a wide range of questions which concern them, including the implications of curbing EEC surpluses.

Public Officials (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what training is given to officers in his Department and in public bodies ultimately answerable to him, who have powers of search and entry, with regard to surveillance techniques and methods of gaining entry into premises.

This information is being obtained and I will reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.

Defence

Air Bases

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what arrangements he is making to improve the defence against air attacks of United States and Royal Air Force air bases in the United Kingdom.

On 27 July I announced the formation of an additional Lightning squadron, the arming of a substantial number of Hawk training aircraft with air-to-air missiles—Sidewinder AIM 9L—and improvements to the Phantom's weapon control system. These measures will directly enhance our ability to withstand air attacks, including those upon USAF and RAF bases in the United Kingdom, and the scope for further improvements is now being considered.In addition, a considerable range of measures is already under way or planned. Over the next few years these will include extension of the coverage of the Bloodhound system in the United Kingdom through the redeployment of the squadron currently in Germany, the formation of a new squadron of VC10 tankers to increase the RAF's air-to-air refuelling capacity, and the equipment of the Phantom with more advanced air-to-air missiles. During the mid-1980's, more sophisticated airborne radars will be introduced, and the modernisation of the ground radar chain, the programme of hardened aircraft shelter construction and other passive defence measures now under way, and in which the USAF fully participates, will be brought to completion. Also, the USAF is now most earnestly considering the case for deploying units of Rapier surface-to-air missile units at its airfields in the United Kingdom.In the longer term, the powerful Tornado F2 will replace the present force of Lightning and Phantom fighters. Taken together, these measures and the ones announced in the summer will bring about a very significant increase in our air defence capability in the course of the next decade.

Queen's Flight

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if, in the light of the crash of a Dan-Air 748, the civil version of the Andover, in July, he is satisfied with the safety of the Queen's Flight.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what were the results of the safety checks on the Andover aircraft of the Queen's Flight, following the Shetlands crash of a Dan-Air 748 in July.

Checks on certain points of the flying controls of all RAF Andovers, including those of the Queen's Flight, were carried out in conformity with the mandatory check bulletin issued by the manufacturers after the Dan-Air accident. No defects were found.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now consider replacing the Andover aircraft of the Queen's Flight.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Thanet, East (Mr. Aitken) on 10 July—[Vol. 970, c. 123.]

Tornado Aircraft

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many Tornado multi-role combat aircraft are on order for the Royal Air Force.

Orders have been placed for the first three batches of Tornado production aircraft. The United Kingdom share of these batches comprises 146 aircraft for service with the RAF. The total United Kingdom requirement is for 385 aircraft, of which 220 will be the GR1—strike—variant and 165 the F2—air defence—variant.

Britain And Nato (Booklet)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many copies of the booklet "Britain and NATO" have been produced; to whom they have been sent; at what cost; and for what purpose.

Some 18,000 copies of the booklet have been produced to date. These have cost approximately £10,000 to design, print and distribute. Copies of the booklet have been sent to a wide range of addresses, including various civilian and military educational establishments, industry, foreign embassies in London, British embassies and defence attachés round the world and a range of public bodies, libraries and private individuals. Copies of the booklet have also been placed in the Library of the House. The purpose of the booklet is to mark the 30th anniversary of NATO, to enhance the public's knowledge of NATO, and to explain why the United Kingdom attaches great value to its membership of the Alliance and how NATO contributes to guaranteeing peace and security in the Western World.

Retired Officers (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give an assurance that he will not, over the next five years, change the system of employing retired officers within his Department; and if he will ensure that there will not be a significant change in the numbers so employed.

There are no plans to change the system of employing retired officers within the Ministry of Defence, but the numbers so employed must be subject to normal complementing criteria and to the constraints placed upon civilian manpower as a whole.

Purchasing Contracts

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proportion of the purchasing contracts issued by his Department in 1978–79 was by means of (a) selective tender, (b) open tender and (c) single tender.

The information on contracts placed at headquarters level is as follows:

No. of Contracts per cent.Value Per cent.
(a) Selective Tender1624
(b) Single Tender1825
The Ministry of Defence does not use open tendering procedures. The remainder of the Ministry of Defence's business is placed with firms on the basis of negotiated contracts.

Low-Flying Aircraft

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many incidents involving low-level flying movements were investigated by his Department in each year since 1974; how many of these incidents were crashes of aircraft; how many fatalities occurred among air crew and civilians; and if he will list in the Official Report all such incidents.

The information is not immediately available in this form. I will write to the hon. Member.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the total amount of compensation paid out by each Department in each year since 1974 in respect of low-flying incidents.

Separate records of compensation paid as a result of low-flying incidents were not kept for claims received before 1975. The sums paid out by my Department in respect of claims received in Great Britain after the beginning of 1975 were as follows:

(a)(b)(c)
MOD AircraftVisiting Forces Aircraft
££
197510,40076
197626,645459
197715,16199
197826,4876,920
1979 (to date)26,788243

Notes:

1. It is not possible to divide the figures in column ( b) between the three Services, but most claims relate to low flying by RAF aircraft.

2. Seventy-five per cent. of the sums in column ( c) are recovered from the visiting forces concerned in accordance with the NATO status of forces agreement.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will immediately order the cessation of all military low-level flights over or near nuclear installations in the United Kingdom until reports of complaints into such low-level movements are investigated; and if he will make a statement.

There are already standing instructions to prohibit military low level flight in the immediate vicinity of nuclear installations in the United Kingdom.Complaints of alleged overflights of the Trawsfynydd nuclear power station are being investigated by the RAF police. I will let the hon. Member know the result of these inquiries when they are completed.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many complaints he has received of low-flying by military aircraft, both RAF and NATO, over or near nuclear installations in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.

Since 1974, the Ministry of Defence has received 18 complaints about military low flying near nuclear installations in the United Kingdom. The most recent of these concerns alleged over-flights of the Trawsfynydd nuclear power station and is still being investigated by the RAF police. In only one previous incident has the complaint of overflight been substantiated. It involved visiting foreign aircraft and resulted from an inadvertent navigational error.

Military Aircraft (Flight Control)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will publish in the Official Report regulations governing the flight of British and NATO military aircraft over the United Kingdom including levels of flying and sites to be avoided; and if he will state how these regulations are enforced upon British and NATO aircrew.

The regulations governing military flying are very extensive and detailed and subject to frequent change. It would not be practicable to publish them in the Official Report, but I can say that aircraft using the United Kingdom low flying system are not normally permitted to fly below 250 feet and are required to avoid built-up areas, airports, hospitals and nuclear power stations.British and Allied aircrew are required to observe them by the provisions of their Service disciplinary codes—in the case of the British Services, Queen's Regulations. All suspected breaches of regulations are fully investigated and in appropriate cases disciplinary action follows.

Gatow Heide, Berlin

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether it is Government policy to destroy the wooded area in the British military sector of Berlin at Gatow Heide; how many trees will be affected; what consultations have taken place with Berlin people; and how many planes arrive at the adjacent military airport in an average week.

I can assure the hon. Member that it is not Government policy to destroy the wooded area in the British sector of Berlin at Gatow Heide. The total wooded area at Gatow Heide comprises about 280 hectares. For flight safety reasons, it has become necessary to fell or lop those trees which infringe flight patterns in an area of about 14·75 hectares. The total number of trees, including saplings, in this area is about 33,000.The representatives of the Berlin people have been fully consulted over the tree clearance programme. In a statement on 1 November, the governing mayor of Berlin confirmed that this measure had been discussed fully with the Berlin Senate; that it had proved possible to reduce the measures by agreement to the minimum necessary for the safety of air traffic; that the Senate plans recultivation measures for the cleared areas, and that no recreational area will be lost. In his statement, the governing mayor also paid tribute to the protection which the allies guarantee for Berlin, which, he said, should not be forgotten when measures necessary to maintain permanent operational capability had less pleasant consequences.During an average week 25 planes arrive at RAF Gatow.

European Community

Assembly Members (Immunities)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what representations he has received from any institution of the EEC concerning the status of members of the EEC Assembly in respect of Her Majesty's Customs and diplomatic immunity; and what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government in this regard.

None. The Government apply the appropriate provisions of the protocol on the privileges and immunities of the European Communities of 8 April 1965. The protocol does not accord any exemption from Her Majesty's Customs and Excise control for Members of the European Parliament and they are not exempt from baggage examination. They enjoy such immunities as are set out in articles 9 and 10 of the protocol, which includes immunity in respect of opinions expressed or votes cast by them in the performance of their duties. During sessions of the European Parliament, Members enjoy in their own country the immunities accorded to Members of their Parliament; in countries of other member States they enjoy immunity from any measure of detention and from legal proceedings. Members of the European Parliament do not enjoy other immunities similar to those accorded to a diplomatic agent.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Citizenship

asked the Lord Privy Seal which are the Commonwealth countries under whose law citizenship can be claimed in certain circumstances by persons born in the United Kingdom to parents who are citizens of those countries by descent.

From the latest information we have it appears that the laws of all Commonwealth countries, with the exception of Dominica, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and Tonga, contains provisions allowing their citizenship to be claimed in certain circumstances by persons born in the United Kingdom to parents who are citizens of these countries by descent.

Rhodesia

asked the Lord Privy Seal what countries he intends to invite to send observers to Zimbabwe-Rhodesia during the forthcoming elections; and what criteria he will use in selecting the countries with regard to their existing pluralistic constitutions.

All Commonwealth countries which wish to send observers to the elections will be invited to do so.

Cambodia

asked the Lord Privy Seal what conditions the British Government would require to be changed in Cambodia before it ceased to recognise the Pol Pot regime.

I have nothing to add to what my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister told the House on 1 November.—[Vol. 972, c. 1446.]

Consular Offices

asked the Lord Privy Seal which is the nearest British consular office to each of the consular offices which are to be closed; what is the distance involved

Post to be closedNearest Consular OfficeDistance in miles
Adelaide………Melbourne—Consulate-General…………404
Basle………Zurich—Consulate-General…………49
Berne—Embassy…………42
Calais………Lille—Consulate-General…………60
Innsbruck………Vienna—Embassy…………250
Malmo………Stockholm—Embassy…………221
Ostend………Brussels—Embassy…………68
Palermo………Naples—Consulate-General…………198
Philadelphia……New York—Consulate-General…………89
Rotterdam………Amsterdam—Consulate-General…………40
Salvador………Recife—Honorary Consulate…………403
St. Louis………Chicago—Consulate-General…………259
Strasbourg………Lyon—Consulate-General…………235
Tangier………Rabat—Embassy…………132
Trieste………Venice—Consulate…………70
Winnipeg………Edmonton (Alberta)—Consulate-Genera…………739
We are considering the possibility of appointing honorary consuls in:

  • Calais,
  • Innsbruck,
  • Tangier.

It is also possible that we may appoint an honourary consul in Adelaide although it is not the custom to provide consular assistance in Commonwealth countries. There will thus be limited consular facilities available in those cities and in Strasbourg, where some consular staff will be retained in the United Kingdom permanent delegation to the Council of Europe. Apart from these arrangements the nearest consular office is as set out above.

Negative Certificates Of Origin

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether his review into the desirability and practicality of ceasing the authentication of negative certificates of origin has been completed.

The Government have now consulted the organisations directly concerned with the authentication of negative certificates of origin.None of those consulted approves of the boycott or of the requirement for negative certificates of origin, which is one aspect of it. However, there was a consensus among those organisations involved

in each case; and in which places it is intended to appoint honorary consuls or vice-consuls to provide essential assistance in case of emergency.

The information requested is set out below:with trade to the Arab countries that if the Foreign and Commonwealth Office ceased authentication of signatures on negative certificates of origin there would be an unacceptable risk to British exports. The Government agree with this view.We have therefore concluded that in these circumstances it would be against British interests to discontinue the practice of authentication.The main reason advanced by the Select Committee of the House of Lords for discontinuing this practice was that the Foreign and Commonwealth Office thereby gave the impression of condoning the content of the negative certificate. The Government do not condone the boycott. As has been stated on a number of occasions, it is the attesting signature on the document not the document itself which the Foreign and Commonwealth Office is authenticating. We accept that there is a case for making this absolutely clear, and an explanation to this effect is now being attached to each Foreign and Commonwealth Office authentication certificate. We believe that this explanation meets the main objection raised by the Select Committee to the process of authentication, without incurring unacceptable damage to British trading interests.

Overseas Development

Infant And Young Child Feeding (Geneva Conference)

asked the Lord Privy Seal who represented him at the joint World Health Organisation/UNICEF meeting on infant and young child feeding held in Geneva on 9 October; when he received a report of the meeting; and what action he proposes to take.

Professor John Waterlow, nutrition adviser to the overseas development administration, was a delegate to the conference. Its results have been reported to me and I will carefully and sympathetically consider them.

Social Services

Poor Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to continue publishing yearly statements on the numbers of poor derived from the special analysis of the family expenditure survey; and when he expects to publish the results for 1978.

Supplementary Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will update the figures on supplementary benefit given to the hon. Member for Woolwich, West (Mr. Bottomley), Official Report, 2 February 1978, columns 251–4.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply today to my hon. Friend the Member for Knutsford (Mr. Bruce-Gardyne).Although tables 3.5 and 3.6 of the Supplementary Benefits Commission's annual report for 1978 do not provide information exactly in accord with the hon. Gentleman's request, I trust they will be sufficient for his purpose.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the cost of paying the long-term supplementary benefit rate to the unemployed after one year; and how many unemployed claimants had been on supplementary benefit for over a year in 1978.

The cost of paying the long-term supplementary benefit rate to the unemployed after one year would be about £65 million in a full year at November 1979 benefit rates. About 215,000 unemployed claimants had been on supplementary benefit for over a year in 1978.

Paddington Day Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what alternative arrangements will be made for patients attending the Paddington day hospital when it closes; and if the additional work in other facilities will receive extra funds.

The unit is closed temporarily and consultation is in progress on a proposal for permanent closure. This matter is at this stage for the Kensington and Chelsea and Westminster area health authority (teaching), and the hon. Member may like to contact the authority direct.

Medway Towns (Fund Allocations)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in the light of past underfunding of the Medway towns as health districts by the South-East regional health authority, whether he will consider an alteration to the present system in order to create a fairer allocation.

Under the present arrangements my right hon. Friend is responsible for allocations to regional health authorities. Regional health authorities allocate resources to area health authorities, which in turn allocate to health districts. My right hon. Friend and I see no reason to alter this system in advance of decisions to be taken following consultation on the future organisation of the NHS.

Benefits (Industrial Disputes)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether it it his intention to introduce measures to reduce social security benefit payments during strikes to take account of the trade unions' responsibility to pay strike pay; and if so, when he expects to do so.

The Government are considering the question of the financial support which trade unions provide for strikers, but we are not yet ready to announce our conclusions.

Hospitals (Fuel Supplies)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he proposes to take to safeguard fuel supplies in hospitals, in the light of the decision by the Esso company to cut its deliveries by 15 per cent.

Hospitals (Brent And Harrow)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report the number of wards and beds to be closed in the Brent and Harrow area in order to meet overspending.

Brent and Harrow area health authority has no plans to close any wards or beds in order to meet overspending.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the number of wards which will need to be closed in the Brent and Harrow area when fuel supplies are cut by 15 per cent. in the case of Esso and by other amounts by other oil companies.

Brent and Harrow area health authority has no problem with fuel supplies.

National Health Service (Photocopying Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the annual cost of photocopying within the National Health Service; and how many machines are operated by each area health authority.

Autistic Children

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many autistic children and young people are currently in-patients at subnormality hospitals in England and Wales; (2) how many autistic young people are attending adult training centres regularly.

Perinatal Mortality Survey

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has decided to commission the fourth perinatal mortality survey; and what is its estimated cost.

It is not our intention to commission a fourth perinatal mortality survey at this time.

Retired Dental Surgeons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make provision to allow dental surgeons who have retired from full time National Health Service employment to earn more than £660 gross per annum before their pension is abated.

The NHS pension of a retired dental surgeon is not affected by any earnings outside the NHS after retirement. There is provision in the NHS superannuation scheme however for pension to be abated in respect of earnings in the NHS after retirement. The relevant rule provides that pension and earnings together should not be more than average earnings in a dental surgeon's best three consecutive years.

Ambulance Service

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to publish his proposals for changes in the structure of the National Health Service as they relate to the ambulance service.

Proposals for changes to the structure and management of the Health Service will be published before the end of the year.

City General Hospital, Carlisle

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what cuts have been made by the area health authority in catering at the City general hospital, Carlisle, as a result of the Government plans to cut expenditure; and if he will make a statement.

The catering budget at the City general hospital, Carlisle has not been cut. If the hon. Member wishes to have further information about catering services at this hospital, I suggest that he contacts the Cumbria area health authority direct.

National Health Service

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will now publish his proposals for the reorganisation of the National Health Service in order to avoid speculation in the form of press reports.

As I announced in the House on 18 July—[Vol. 970, c. 1791]—we plan to issue later this year a consultative document putting forward and inviting views on our proposals for simplifying the structure and management arrangements of the National Health Service.

Family Practitioners

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he intends to adhere to a commitment to reduce the average family practitioner's list to 1,700 during the next few years.

Reduction in list sizes is clearly desirable in the interests of both patients and doctors but it is not practicable at present to set a specific target. Continuing progress depends mainly on recruitment to general practice and I expect the steady increase in the number of general practitioners to continue.

Chiropody

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has made any progress in the scheme with regard to the closure of the profession of chiropody by compulsory registration; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Anglesey (Mr. Best) on 11 June.—[Vol. 968 c. 96.]

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider the use of the surgeries of chiropodists for the purpose of chiropody treatment under the National Health Service; and if he will make a statement.

I assume that the hon. Member is referring to the use of surgeries of private chiropodists. Area health authorities may already employ State registered chiropodists in private practice to undertake treatment of National Health Service patients on a fee per treatment basis in their own surgeries. In 1977, the latest year for which figures are available, 11·7 per cent. of all NHS chiropody treatments outside hospital were arranged in this way.

Heating Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many people on supplementary benefit other than those over 75 years or families with a child under five years are currently receiving (a) no addition for heating, (b) addition at the lowest rate, (c) addition at the intermediate rate and (d) addition at the highest rate, respectively;(2) how many people over 75 years on supplementary benefit are currently receiving (a) no addition for heating, (b) addition at the lowest rate, (c) addition at the intermediate rate and (d) addition at the highest rate, respectively;(3) how many families on supplementary benefit, with a child under five years are currently receiving (a) no addition for heating, (b) addition at the lowest rate, (c) addition at the intermediate rate and (d) addition at the highest rate, respectively.

Estimated figures are as follows:

Receiving a heating addition thousands
(i) Claimants aged over 75650
(ii) Claimants with a child under 585
(iii) Claimants not in group (i) or (ii)810
Not receiving a heating addition thousands
(i) Claimants aged over 75115
(ii) Claimants with a child under 5150
(iii) Claimants not in group (i) or (ii)1,120
It is not possible to produce reliable estimates of the further information requested except at disproportionate cost.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if his Department is monitoring cuts in spending by local authorities that will reduce the services available to disabled people; and if he will place periodic reports in the Library.

As the right hon. Gentleman is aware, the Department already collects information about expenditure by local authorities. It would not be justifiable to require it to divert scarce resources to collect additional data.

One-Parent Families

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what action he proposes to implement the recommendations, contained in the social policy statement produced by the organisation for one-parent families, Gingerbread, a copy of which has been sent to his Department.

There were 31 numbered recommendations in this statement. They covered a very wide range of subjects including taxation, housing, legal and other matters outside my right hon. Friend's responsibility. The recommendations within this Department's field have many links with the options for change discussed in the report on the review of the supplementary benefits scheme. We have studied carefully the findings of that report, the comments made on it, and recommendations such as those of Gingerbread. Our proposals for initiating the long process of simplifying the scheme will be presented in a Bill to be introduced later this year.

Mobility Allowance

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many disabled people are now in receipt of the mobility allowance; and how many people have newly received payment of the allowance since June.

At 29 October 1979 there were just over 130,000 recipients of mobility allowance, 12,000 more than the number of beneficiaries at the end of June 1979.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the mobility allowance will be in payment to all eligible applicants from 5 to 65 years of age by 31 December.

By the end of October the mobility allowance unit had on hand just under 40,000 claims, and every effort is being made to deal with them as quickly as possible. It is unlikely that every successful claim will be in payment by the end of this year. However, any arrears will be paid from the appropriate date.

Good Neighbour Campaign

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what annual saving in expenditure will be gained from his decision to discontinue funding the Good Neighbour scheme.

The discontinuation of the Good Neighbour campaign will result in savings on administrative costs of the order of £20,000 per annum.The annual costs of publicity material depend on the level of demand, and no estimate can therefore be made on future savings, but in the two calendar years 1978 and 1979 the total cost of publicity material was approximately £108,000.

Family Income Supplement

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services haw many agricultural workers receive family income supplement (a) by region, and (b) as a percentage of the total work force.

I regret that information is not available in the form requested. There are no recent reliable regional occupational statistics for the family income supplement scheme (FIS). Occupational classifications used in FIS statistics are not directly comparable with other central Government classifications. It is not, therefore, meaningful to show FIS recipients as a percentage of the total agricultural work force.The right hon. Gentleman may, however, find it helpful to know that in July 1979 there were estimated to be 6,520 families on FIS whose head was employed in agriculture. In addition to farm workers this category includes, among others, fishery, forestry, estate, market garden, horticultural, riding stable and game workers. The estimate is based on the routine sample survey of FIS recipients and is subject to statistical error.

Nurses, Midwives And Health Visitors Act 1979

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will introduce, as a matter of urgency, the required enabling legislation to set up the central council and the national boards envisaged in the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1979.

The action necessary to set up the central council for nursing, midwifery and health visiting, and the national boards, under the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1979, consists of making an order under that Act. I have decided in consultation with colleagues in other United Kingdom Health Departments to arrange for an order to be laid in Parliament which will allow the national board to be set up by the summer next year and the central council to follow shortly thereafter. This timetable will allow time for detailed consultations on the constitution and membership of the new bodies.

Regional Health Authorities

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will allow the question of reorganising the North-West, North-East, South-West and South-East Thames regional health authorities, so as to form one planning authority for the National Health Service in London, to be part of the consultation process on reorganisation which is to start in December.

The Government's response to the recommendation of the Royal Commission that an independent inquiry should be set up to consider the special Health Service problems of London—including the need for four Thames RHAs—will be covered in the consultative document to be issued later this year.

Anaesthesia

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the number of cases in each of the last five years of (a) persons dying from the effect of anaesthetics and (b) the amount of damages awarded against National Health Service doctors in area health authorities to persons suffering as a result of the application of anaesthetics, in National Health Service hospitals; if he is satisfied with the care taken over the administration of anaesthetics in establishments for which he is responsible; and if he will make a statement.

I regret that the information requested is not available centrally. Though deaths due to anaesthesia are rare, they are a cause for concern and for this reason I welcome the study of anaesthetic mortality being conducted by the Association of Anaesthetists.

Ancillary Services

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to encourage greater competition in the supply of ancillary services in National Health Service hospitals and establishments; and if he will make a statement.

Health authorities have discretion to put a wide range of services out to contract, and it is for them to decide in the light of local needs and circumstances whether services can be provided more effectively and cheaply by this means. I should be glad to see them use this discretion more freely.

Hospital Administration

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to the answer given to the hon. Member for Lichfield and Tamworth on 22 October, if he will give a definition of (a) "Administrators to medical staff in the hospital service"; whether this definition includes unqualified medical staff who perform quasi-medical functions such as inoculations; and (b) "Whole-time equivalent hospital medical staff"; whether the ratio of 3·4 administrators to one medical staff member represents an increase in administrative manpower on the years 1975, 1976, 1977 and 1978, respectively; if so, how this percentage compares with other English counties; and if he will publish a table of comparison in real and percentage terms for the years in question.

Voluntary Sector

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has yet decided for how much the voluntary sector should compensate for lack of growth in the social services field.

The voluntary sector, with substantial support from the public, plays a major role in the total provision and development of personal social services. The Department makes grants to national and regional voluntary organisations and my right hon. Friend aims to maintain, in real terms, the planned total level of such expenditure. The public expenditure White Paper Cmnd. 7746, published on 1 November 1979 gives effect to this for 1980–81. Local social services authorities support local voluntary activity and I expect them, when allocating their resources, to support the voluntary sector wherever this would lead to a more effective use of public funds. The provision of this support however must depend upon local need and the level of voluntary activity in each authority's area. This cannot be assessed or decided centrally.

Widows

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will set up a supplementary fund to make payment to widows who are denied the standard widow's pension for any reason whatsoever within the present legislation.

No. A widow who is not entitled to a widow's pension or whose widow's pension is insufficient for her needs may apply in the normal way for help by way of supplementary benefit. On the general question of entitlement to national insurance widow's benefit, I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to him on 1 November.

Berkshire Area Health Authority

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the average daily bed occupancy in the Berkshire area health authority in 1977 and in 1974.

The average daily bed occupancy in hospitals in Berkshire area health authority in 1977 was 3,961; the figure for 1974 was 4,260.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the approximate number of persons employed in the area of the Berkshire area health authority at the latest available date, a year ago and two years ago.

The number of persons employed by the Berkshire area health authority at 30 June 1979 was 11,791; the corresponding figures for 1978 and 1977 were, 1,787 and 12,080 respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the approximate number of persons employed as clerical and administrative staff by the Berkshire area health authority at the latest available date, one year ago and two years ago.

The number of persons employed in the administrative and clerical grades by Berkshire area health authority at the dates requested was as follows:

30 September 19781,520
30 September 19771,486
30 September 19761,525

Benefits And Earnings

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the percentage increase in supplementary benefits and in average industrial earnings, respectively, over the past 10 and five years, respectively.

[pursuant to her repty, 29 October 1979, c.438]: As my hon. Friend will note from paragraph 3.29 of the Supplementary Benefits Commission's annual report for 1978, the Department has recently changed its method of comparing benefit rates with earnings.Information on which to make comparisons on the new basis is not available for years prior to 1970 but I invite my hon. Friend to study tables 3.3 to 3.6 of the same report, which contain considerable detail about the relative movements of supplementary benefit rates and average earnings in recent years.I would, however, take this opportunity to correct an error which has come to light in part (d) of table 3.6. The entries in columns (2) and (3) for July 1974 should be £43·50 and 62.6(69·3) respectively.

Scotland

Peterhead Prison (Family Visits)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the cost of having long-term prisoners in Peterhead prison taken to locations near their home for family visits; how many prisoners are transferred in this manner; and how many persons are brought from long distances at public expense to visit prisoners serving extended periods at the prison.

Prisoners who are transferred from Peterhead to other prisons for accumulated visits travel by prison bus on the fortnightly draft which transfers prisoners for a variety of reasons, for example court appearances, liberations, etc.; the cost in relation to transfers for accumulated visits is, therefore, minimal. Each fortnightly draft includes, on average, between four and five prisoners being transferred for accumulated visits.Visitors to Peterhead who qualify for supplementary benefits may claim assistance from the DHSS for travelling expenses, but the numbers who do this could not be identified without disproportionate cost. Among the solicitors who visit prisoners in Peterhead, some who travel long distances claim travelling expenses from the legal aid fund but the numbers are very small indeed.

Pay Beds

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has any plans to increase the number of pay beds in National Health Service hospitals in Scotland.

Not at present. Under legislation enacted by the previous Government in 1976, my right hon. Friend's powers to alter the number of authorised pay beds in any National Health Service hospital are dependent upon the making of recommendations by the Health Services Board on the advice of its Scottish committee. It is intended shortly to introduce amending legislation which will re-establish the discretion which my right hon. Friend was previously able to exercise in this matter.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total number of pay beds in National Health Service hospitals in Scotland and in Tayside health board.

School Bus Services

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he proposes to take to ensure that there is no cut in school bus services, particularly in rural areas of the Grampian region.

It is for individual education authorities to determine what arrangements are necessary to enable them to carry out their duties in relation to school transport. The school transport provisions embodied in the Education (No. 2) Bill will not alter this.

School Meals

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the subsidy as a percentage of the total gross cost of school meals in Scotland in each of the past five years.

Financial returns for 1978–79 have not yet been received from all authorities. The percentage subsidy for each of the five years up to and including 1977–78 was as follows:

1973–7474 per cent.
1974–7575 per cent.
1975–7675 per cent.
1976–7775 per cent.
1977–7871 per cent.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the current qualifying level for free school meals in terms of net earnings for a (a) one-child, (b) two-child, (c) three-child and (d) four-child family in Scotland.

The net weekly income levels at which families of one child, two, three and four children are entitled to free meals for one child are £40·40, £48·50, £56·60 and £64·70, respectively. In the case of the larger families, entitlement for another child arises at each step of £1·50 below these levels. The income levels will be raised on 12 November to £46·05, £55·30, £64·55 and £73·80. There will be no change in the £1·50.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the breakdown in the cost of a school meal in Scotland in terms of (a) food, (b) wages and salaries and (c) other expenditure.

The most recent figures available are for 1977–78 when the average breakdown for Scotland was as follows:

ComponentCost (pence)
Food17
Wages and Salaries25
Other overheads8
Total50

Peterhead Prison (Life Prisoner)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will consult the governor of Her Majesty's prison in Peterhead regarding the application by a life prisoner to be transferred from Peterhead prison to Walton prison, Liverpool.

I wrote to my hon. Friend about the case he has in mind on 25 June, when I explained fully the background to the decision not to agree to the prisoner's request for a permanent transfer to an English prison. I have confirmed from the governor of Peterhead prison that, since that time, there has been no change in the circumstances of the case which points to the need to reconsider that decision.

Schoolchildren

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many children attend (a) primary and (b) secondary schools in Scotland.

At September 1978, the latest date for which information is available, there were 581,904 pupils in primary schools and 431,483 pupils in secondary schools in Scotland.

Local Health Councils

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he intends to abolish local health councils.

The Government will shortly, in response to the report of the Royal Commission on the National Health Service, be issuing a consultative document on the structure, administration and management of the Health Service in Scotland. Thereafter we will consider what changes should be made to improve Health Service administration and contain public expenditure.

Rate Support Grant

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he proposes to make adjustments in the rate support grant to local authorities to reduce the bias against rural areas.

Details of the rate support grant settlement for 1980–81 will be announced when I meet the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities on 16 November.

Educational Establishments (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the average cost of providing a new (a) primary school, (b) high school and (c) technical college, excluding the cost of land.

Average estimated costs at tender stage—inclusive of furniture, equipment and professional fees—were £430,000 for a primary school and £3,000,000 for a six-year secondary school in the 12 months to 30 September 1979. No tender for a technical college was submitted during that period, but a college for 850 students might be expected to cost about £4,000,000 at current prices.

Herring Processing Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will reconsider his decision not to aid members of the herring processors association who are severely hit by the lack of herring stocks; and if he will set up an investigation with a view to aiding this industry.

No. As my noble Friend the Minister of State told the Herring Buyers' Association in his letter of 19 October, the special help which it has sought would be inconsistent with the Government's policy on aid to industry and would involve heavy additional expenditure which we cannot afford. The herring processors continue to be eligible for the same aids as are available to industry generally.

Scottish Central Excavation Unit

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what plans he has for the continuation of the activities of the Scottish central excavation unit.

My right hon. Friend proposes that the unit should continue at least to the end of 1980–81 during which time he will be considering the best way of organising rescue archaeology and excavation in Scotland in the longer term.

Coatbridge And Airdrie (Industrial Development)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report details showing sites available in the towns of Coatbridge and Airdrie for industrial development, indicating the location and acreage of such sites.

The survey issues report for the Monklands district local plan, published in June 1979, gives details of the industrial land and premises available in Monklands district. I have asked Monklands district council to send the hon. Member a copy.

Employment (Dundee)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the number

Number of job currently supported by Scheme
OrderIndustry GroupSmall Firms Employment SubsidyTemporary Employment Subsidy
I…Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing………1—
II…Mining and Quarrying………——
III…Food, Drink and Tobacco………35—
IV…Coal and Petroleum Products………——
V…Chemicals and Allied Industries………2—
VI…Metal Manufacture………1—
VII…Mechanical Enginerring………36—
VIII…Instrument Engineering………5—
IX…Electrical Engineering………27—
X…Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering………——
XI…Vehicles………17—
XII…Metal Goods not elsewhere specified………1—
XIII…Textiles………30—
XIV…Leather, Leather Goods and Fur………——
XV…Clothing and Footwear………——
XVI…Bricks, Pottery, Glass, Cement etc.………——
XVII…Timber, Furniture etc.………9—
XVIII…Paper, Printing and Publishing………1—
XIX…Other Manufacturing Industries………9—
XX…Construction………118—
XXI…Gas, Electricity and Water………——
XXII…Transport and Communication………1—
XXIII…Distributive Trades………5914
XXIV…Insurance, Banking, Finance and Business Services……——
XXV…Professional and Scientific Services………3—
XXVI…Miscellaneous Services………63—
XXVII…Public Administration and Defence………——
TOTALS………41814

Industrial Investment (Dundee)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what measure he is taking in increasing industrial investment in Dundee.

In appropriate cases, my Department draws the attention of potential investors to the attractions of Dundee as a location for investment; and, in the recent review of the boundaries of assisted areas the Government decided that Dundee should retain its status as a special development area in

of jobs that are currently being supported by employment subsidies in Dundee, giving a breakdown per Standard Industrial Classification order.

The small firms employment subsidy is currently supporting 418 jobs and the temporary employment subsidy 14 jobs in the Dundee employment office area. No jobs are being supported at present in that area by the other employment subsidy—the temporary short-time working compensation scheme. An analysis by standard industrial classification is set out in the following table.which the maximum level of financial assistance is available.

Advance Factories (Dundee)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many advance factories are now empty in Dundee; how many have been provisionally allocated; and what is the area of each.

Details of the availability, allocations and areas of advance factories are a matter for the Scottish Development Agency, local authorities and private developers. I have asked the Agency to write to the hon. Member in answer to his question in so far as its responsibilities are concerned.

Hypothermia

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, how many deaths from hypothermia were reported to Tayside health board in each year since 1974; and what are the corresponding figures for Scotland.

The numbers of deaths attributed to hypothermia as the underlying cause of death, in Tayside health board area and in Scotland, in each of the years 1974 to 1978, are given in the table below.Deaths from hypothermia, Tayside and Scotland, 1974–78:

Tayside Health BoardScotland
1974—7
1975112
1976125
1977116
1978423

Child Minders

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of child minders officially registered with the social work department of each regional authority in Scotland.

Numbers registered at 31 March 1979 are as follows:

Local authority
Border29
Central75
Dumfries and Galloway5
Fife139
Grampian124
Highland33
Lothian532
Strathclyde319
Tayside79
Orkney1
Shetland2
Western Isles3

Parliamentary Boundaries (Dundee)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects the Parliamentary Boundary Commission for Scotland to complete its review of the parliamentary boundaries of Dundee; and when it will publish its preliminary findings.

While these are matters for the Commission, it seems likely that its provisional recommendations for the division of Tayside region will be published by mid-1980.

Criminal Law

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if it his intention to introduce legislation based on the third report of the Thomson committee on criminal appeals in Scotland;(2) if it his intention to introduce legislation based on the report of the Bryden working group on identification procedures under Scottish criminal law;(3) if it is his intention to introduce legislation based on the report of the Dunpark committee dealing with the question of reparation by the offenders to the victim in Scotland.

Such recommendations in these reports as call for legislation are being considered for inclusion in the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Bill which the Government propose to introduce this Session.

Community Service Orders

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many community service orders have been made by Scottish courts since 31 July 1978; and what is the average length of time contained in the order.

In the period 31 July 1978 to 30 September 1979, 433 community service orders were made.The following table gives the information available on times contained in the orders showing the percentage of orders that fall into different time bands.

Percentage of community service ordersLength of time (hours)
19 per cent.49–99
48 per cent.100–149
21 percent.150–199
12 per cent.200–240

Police

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many police officers were recruited by each police force in Scotland in each month of 1979 to the end of September; and how many resigned from each force in each month of the same period.

Quarter to 31 March 197930 June 197930 September 1979
ForceRecruitsResignationsRecruitsResignationsRecruitsResignations
Central…134121243
Dumfries and Galloway86815Nil
Fife…224117303
Grampian…254218246
Lothian and Borders66105722786
Northern…187128184
Strathclyde…237471826322261
Tayside…15383236
Total…4048531111342489
Note: Total losses from all causes in the three quarters were 128, 155 and 232, respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has any plans to review the upper age limit for recruits to police forces in Scotland; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland by how much public expenditure on the police in Scotland rose between 1974–75 and 1978–79; and by how much he estimates it will increase in the next financial year.

Total public expenditure on police services—including school crossing patrols—in Scotland is provisionally estimated to have risen over the period between 1974–75 and 1978–79 by about 2·8 per cent. in real terms. It is estimated that it will increase in real terms by a further 2·5 per cent. in 1979–80.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has any plans for increasing the authorised establishment levels of police forces in Scotland.

It is for each police authority, acting on the advice of its chief constable, to apply to my right hon.

Quarter ending:
Force31 March 197930 June 197930 September 1979
Central…………—+4—
Dumfries and Galloway…………-2+2+3
Fife…………-2+1+3
Grampian…………+3-5+8
Lothian and Borders…………-5+9+14
Northern…………-1-1+4
Strathclyde…………-9+14+25
Tayside…………-4—+15
Total…………-20+24+72

Information on police strengths is collected quarterly; on that basis the information is as follows:Friend for any increase in establishment levels.

Police Cadets

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if any of the Scottish police forces are restricting the entry of police cadets as a result of the Government's cuts in public expenditure.

No. The Government have emphasised that local authority expenditure on the police is exempt from the need for reductions and have made it clear that police forces should continue to be free to recruit police officers and police cadets within their authorised establishments.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many police cadets have been recruited by each police force in Scotland in each month of 1979 to the end of September.

The information requested is not readily available and could not be obtained without disproportionate effort. The following table gives details of the net increases or decreases in the number of cadets in each force in Scotland on a quarterly basis:

Licensing (Scotland) Act 1976

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what consideration he is giving at present to the operation of the Licensing (Scotland) Act 1976; and if it is his intention to introduce amendments to that Act.

We have no evidence of any serious deficiencies in the Licensing (Scotland) Act 1976 and we have no proposal for amending legislation at present.

Fire Service Training School, Gullane

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if it is the intention to proceed with the plan to provide sports facilities at the fire service training school at Gullane.

This project is not due to start until some time after the building works now in progress at the school are completed. Planning is continuing to enable it to start then, resources permitting.

Council Houses (Sale)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if his policy on the sale of council houses is intended to apply to former school houses in Scotland where these are not now being occupied by a member of the teaching profession.

The forthcoming legislation giving certain public sector tenants the right to buy their houses will apply to houses owned by public housing authorities, including district and islands councils, but not to houses owned by public bodies other than housing authorities, such as regional councils. Consequently, where former school houses remain in the ownership of regional councils their tenants will not have the right to buy. However, I intend to encourage public bodies other than housing authorities who own housing to sell to sitting tenants any houses which they no longer require to meet their needs as employers.

Oil Development (Impact On Indigenous Industries)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if, pursuant to the reply of the Under-Secretary of State for Scotland, the hon. Member for Edinburgh, North (Mr. Fletcher) at Scottish Question Time on Wednesday 24 October to the hon. Member for Aberdeen, North, he will confirm his intention, as announced on 17 July, to put in hand a study of the impact of oil development on the indigenous industries in Orkney and Shetland and most of the Grampian region;(2) what is to be the membership of the study group into the impact of oil development on the indigenous industries of Orkney and Shetland and most of the Grampian region; when it will begin its work; and what arrangements have been made for interested parties to submit evidence.

Arrangements for a study of the effects of oil industry developments on indigenous industry are currently under discussion, and an announcement should be made before the end of the year.

Scottish Tourist Board

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the members of the Scottish Tourist Board, giving the dates on which their present term on the board expires.

The information requested is as follows:

ChairmanAppointment expires
Mr. R. P. MacLellan, C.B.E.29.2.80
Part-time Members
Mr. G. D. H. Dewar30.9.80
Mr. R. A. Fasken, C.BE.30.10.80
Mr. A. A. Hughes30.9.81
Mr. H. B. Sneddon, O.B.E30.9.81
Mr. G. McNeill30.9.82
Mr. G. M. Simmers30.9.83

Unemployment (Dundee)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what steps he is taking in dealing with the problem of long-term unemployment in Dundee.

The hon. Member will be aware that, following the recent review of regional policy, Dundee retained its special development area status, and will continue to attract the full range of industrial incentives. In addition, we are examining, in co-operation with the Scottish Development Agency and the local authorities, every possibility of encouraging the establishment of new businesses and the expansion of existing firms.

Common Fisheries Policy

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the results of his visit to Luxembourg on 29 and 30 October in company with the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when the renegotiation of the common fisheries policy was discussed; and how these discussions will affect the Scottish fishing industry.

I would refer to the statement made on 31 October by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, about the outcome of these meetings.—[Vol. 972, c. 1245–6.] I am hopeful that substantive progress will now be possible at the next meeting of the Council of Ministers—Fisheries—which is proposed for 3 and 4 December. The Government are fully aware that a resolution of the common fisheries policy is vital to the well-being of the Scottish fishing industry and will vigorously pursue the negotiations with a view to obtaining a satisfactory settlement.

Sheepmeat

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has any plans to meet the president and the director-general of the Scottish National Farmers Union to discuss the ban on imports of sheepmeat from the United Kingdom by the French Government.

I had a useful meeting with the president and director-general in Luxembourg on Tuesday of last week immediately after my attendance at the Council of Ministers meeting to discuss sheepmeat. The union representatives expressed support for the Government's view that the French must comply with the ruling of the European Court on sheepmeat imports to France.

Regional And Island Authorities

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the rank order of regional and island authorities in each of the past three years according to the value of their rates per head of population, showing the rank in descending order; and if he will show the relative position of Scotland overall in each case.

The information is given in the table below. The figures take no account of grants in respect of rate rebates or the domestic element of rate support grant. They are based on total income derived, in regional areas from region and district rates and, in island areas, from the general rate. The table should not be taken to indicate relative levels of rates payable by individual ratepayers since it incorporates rates payable on all classes of property (including industrial and commercial).

1977–78
Rating areaRates per head
£
Central132·49
Strathclyde110·42
Lothian109·24
Orkney107·78
SCOTLAND100·63
Tayside87·12
Grampian83·86
Highland76·60
Borders70·81
Fife69·40
Dumfries and Galloway63·66
Western Isles45·26
Shetland41·45
1978–79
Rating areaRates per head
£
Orkney355·40
Central138·33
Lothian128·56
Grampian116·04
Strathclyde113·82
SCOTLAND112·60
Shetland110·34
Tayside101·20
Highland92·43
Fife87·80
Borders74·50
Dumfries and Galloway73·01
Western Isles61·96
1979–80
Rating areaRates per head
£
Orkney460·73
Shetland344·89
Lothian160·31
Central158·78
Grampian149·85
SCOTLAND132·18
Strathclyde126·93
Highland111·32
Tayside110·16
Fife106·60
Borders88·96
Dumfries and Galloway86·33
Western Isles74·17

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many new jobs were created in each regional and island authority and in Scotland overall in each of the past three years.

The information is not available for the years and in the form requested. The Scottish Economic Bulletin Number 17—spring 1979, pages 14–32—contains an analysis by region of job gains in Scottish manufacturing industry in the period up to 1975.

Unemployment rates for June in each year as a percentage of the June 1976 rate
Region1976197719781979
Border…………10011410897
Central…………100127125122
Dumfries and Galloway……100109120116
Fife…………100136136130
Grampian…………100137143153
Highland…………100152150162
Lothian…………100135131125
Strathclyde…………100129131126
Tayside…………100123123131
Orkney…………100148159211
Shetland…………100122107104
Western Isles…………100976986
Scotland…………100129129125
Note: Calculations based on figures published in table 100(b) of the Scottish Abstract of Statistics for the years 1976–78. 1979 figures are provisional.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the unemployment rate in June in each of the past three years in each of the regional and island authorities; and what were the figures for Scotland overall.

The information is set out in the table below.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN JUNE OF EACH YEAR
Region197719781979
Per cent.Per cent.Per cent.
Border4·13·93·5
Central7·57·47·2
Dumfries and Galloway7·58·38·0
Fife8·38·37·9
Grampian4·14·34·6
Highland7·97·88·4
Lothian7·06·86·5
Strathclyde10·110·29·8
Tayside7·57·58·0
Orkney4·04·35·7
Shetland3·32·92·8
Western Isles13·39·511·8
Scotland8·48·48·1

Note: Figures for the years 1977–78, are as published in table 100( b) of the Scottish Abstract of Statistics. 1979 figures are provisional.

Health Boards (Value Added Tax)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the unemployment rate in June of each of the past three years in each of the regional and island authorities and in Scotland, taking the June 1976 unemployment rate in each case as 100.

The information is set out in the table below.tax was paid by each of the health boards in Scotland in the last financial year.

The information required is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate expense.

River Tweed (Protection)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to be able to issue a protection order under the Freshwater and Salmon Fisheries (Scotland) Act 1976 for the River Tweed.

The proposals for the making of a protection order for the Rivers Tweed and Eye were the subject of a public inquiry in June. I am at present considering the report of the inquiry and will be making a statement shortly.

Hospital Waiting Lists

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number awaiting operations under the main surgical specialties at each of the hospitals within Tayside health board and Scotland as a whole.

The numbers on waiting lists at 31 March 1979 are given below. It is estimated that about 80 per cent. of those awaiting admission will require surgical operations.

Surgical Speciality

Hospital

General surgery

Orthopaedic surgery

Ear, nose and throat

Ophthalmology

Urology

Plastic surgery

Gynaecology

Total

Ninewells……725—335203——2251,488
Dundee Royal Infirmary……—676——18686—948
Dundee Limb Fitting Centre…—4—————4
Bridge of Earn……—395167——232—794
Perth Royal Infirmary……418————16252686
Blairgowrie……11——————11
Meigle……13——————13
Arbroath……32—————5587
Forfar……9812————8118
Stracathro……41493*————45579
Health Board Total……1,3381,5805022031863345854,728
Scotland……18,37711,48812,3394,2513,6806,30311,02267,460

* Approximately 70 per cent. of the waiting list is from Grampain health board area.

Home Helps

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the number of home helps per 1,000 of the retired population in each of the region and island authorities and Scotland overall.

The information requested is as follows:

Number of Home Help Staff per 1,000 of Persons of Pensionable Age (Whole-Time Equivalent)
Region/island authority
Border6·5
Central7·9
Dumfries and Galloway10·4
Fife9·9
Grampian7·4
Highland7·1
Lothian13·4
Strathclyde13·1
Tayside7·6
Orkney19·6
Shetland13·9
Western Isles23·0
Scotland11·3
The figures used are those for persons of pensionable age, that is men aged 65 or over and women aged 60 or over.The information about home help staff relates to 31 March 1979 and that for population to 30 June 1978.

Fishing Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will arrange an urgent meeting with the various organisations connected with the fishing industry in Scotland to discuss what action can be taken in the present crisis in the industry due to the limitation of quotas, the escalating costs of fuel for the vessels and the considerable increase in labour and gear costs.

My noble Friend the Minister of State and I frequently meet representatives of the fishing organisations to discuss matters affecting the industry. My Department is also in regular contact with the industry and recently consulted it on the question of prices for 1980 under the EEC marketing regime. A further meeting on quotas is to be held on 23 November and discussions are shortly to take place with the Aberdeen Fishing Vessel Owners' Association to discuss the special difficulties of that port. I do not therefore consider that there is a need for a special meeting such as my hon. Friend proposes.

Highlands And Islands Development Board

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the members of the Highlands and Islands Development Board, giving the dates on which their term on the board expires.

The information requested is as follows—

Appointment expires
Chairman
Professor Sir K. J. W. Alexander31.1.81
Deputy Chairman
Rear Admiral D. A. Dunbar Nasmith, C.B., D.S.C.31.10.81
Full-time Members
Mr. R. A. Fasken, C.B.E.31.10.80
Mr. G. Gordon Drummond31.10.81
Part-time Members
Mr. J. S. Grant, C.B.E.31.10.81
Mr. T. C. Graham31.10.80
Mr. D. A. Ferguson31.10.83

Transport

Lorry Design (Road Damage)

asked the Minister of Transport whether he is satisfied that sufficient research is being carried out by the Transport and Road Research Laboratory on the effect of lorry mechanical design on road damage.

The Transport and Road Research Laboratory has a continuous programme of research into the structural design of road pavements. The laboratory is also carrying out a related study on the nature of the forces applied to road surfaces by the wheels of goods vehicles and the extent to which they are affected by the mechanical design of the vehicle. This work is now well advanced and I am satisfied that it meets present needs.

Channel Tunnel

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects to make a statement on a possible Channel tunnel or bridge.

I have asked Sir Alec Cairncross to advise me on the British Rail proposal for a single track rail tunnel. I cannot yet say when I will be able to make a statement.

asked the Minister of Transport what support would be available from the European Economic Community for the construction of a Channel tunnel or bridge and its related ancillary communications.

If the draft regulation on Community financial help to transport infrastructure projects is agreed, this would be a potential source of such help But discussions still have a long way to go; and any such scheme would also, of course, have to command the full support of the British and French Governments.

Public Expenditure

asked the Minister of Transport if he will provide a table showing in November 1978 prices the total transport and policies programme, base programme bids for English counties, the total expenditure accepted by Government, the proportion of the bid accepted and the transport supplementary grant paid for each year since 1975–76.

The total local transport expenditure accepted for transport supplementary grant—TSG—purposes, and the grant paid, for each year since 1975–76 was as follows:

£ million
November 1978 pricesAccepted expenditure (England)TSG
1975–761,482426
1976–771,337386
1977–781,034294
1978–79982277
1979–801,026289
The 1980–81 TSG settlement is not due until December. The figures for the years before 1979–80 must be treated with reservation because of the increasing artificiality inherent in each revaluation from earlier price bases.As regards the further information sought by my hon. Friend, I refer him to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Newport (Mr. Hughes) on 31 October 1979.—[Vol. 972, c.

547.]

Disabled Persons

asked the Minister of Transport whether his Department has received a copy of "Can I Get There", published by the working party on transport for the disabled in Greater Manchester; what proposals he has to alleviate the transport difficulties faced by disabled people throughout the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.

I was pleased to receive a copy of this report recently. My Department has sponsored research on the travel problems of disabled people and related aspects of bus design. The results have been published and it is for public transport operators, manufacturers and local authorities to apply them so far as resources allow. I am considering what more can be done to help the disabled and my Department will certainly bear in mind the conclusion of the report.

Freight Integration Council

asked the Minister of Transport whether he will make a statement on the future of the Freight Integration Council.

The Government are determined to reduce the number of unnecessary advisory bodies. The Freight Integration Council has long ceased to serve any useful purpose and the forthcoming transport Bill will include provision for its abolition.

Mrs F O'brien

asked the Minister of Transport why it has taken his Department from 17 July to 30 October to reply to the representations made by the hon. Member for Thornaby on behalf of his constituent Mrs. F. O'Brien, of 226, Stockton Road, Middlesbrough; and what is the average time taken by his Department to reply to hon. Members' letters.

I am sorry for the delay in answering the hon. Member's letter. This was due to the considerable amount of work and the lengthy negotiations required to settle the complex compensation issues raised by Mrs. O'Brien's case. The hon. Member was sent two interim replies assuring him that the matter was being dealt with as quickly as possible, but I accept that a further such reply would have been courteous. The average time taken to deal with the 609 letters received from hon. Members in September was 30 days.

Environment

Community Land Act 1975

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give his estimate of the total cost to date of the administration of the Community Land Act 1975 (a) by central Government and (b) by local authorities and the estimated total value of the land acquired under the Act.

Precise figures are not available. Estimates for England and Scotland up to 31 March 1979 are given in the table below. Figures for Wales, where the Land Authority for Wales is the acquiring authority, are not included.

Community Land Scheme 1975/79
£ (million)
Administrative costs:
(a) central Government1½
(b) local authorities13
Value of land acquired70 (approx)*
* Local authorities' estimates of values at 31 March 1979 or date of disposal whichever was earlier. Where no valuation given, total costs of land and works, and attributable interests and staffing costs.

Property Owners (Possession And Fair Rents)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to make it possible for property owners either to recover the possession of their property or be able to obtain a fair rent on tenancies that have existed since before 1940.

We are examining all aspects of the Rent Acts, including the tenancies to which my hon. Friend refers, and we expect to reach conclusions much more rapidly than the previous Administration.

Travelling People

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the Government's policy on travelling people.

It is Government policy to encourage local authorities in England and Wales to fulfil their statutory responsibilities for the provision of gipsy sites, and to encourage further provision by local authorities in Scotland through the work of the advisory committee on Scotland's travelling people.As part of this policy, I have recently announced legislative proposals adopting certain recommendations of the Cripps report and these will be introduced shortly.

Ancient Monuments And Archaeological Areas Act

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he intends to bring into operation the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act.

The Act received Royal Assent on 4 April 1979. Section 48 and 49 came into force in England and Wales on 16 July 1979. It is intended to bring the remainder of parts I and III into force early next year, and part II later that year.

Regional Government Car Service

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects the regional Government car service to be reduced to 60 cars.

Field Monument Wardens

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what the functions of a field monument warden are; how and by whom they are appointed; what their qualifications are; what their salary is; how many are currently so designated; and what restrictions apply to their powers of entry into ancient monuments in private ownership.

Field monument wardens are employed to monitor the condition of scheduled field monuments by visiting them, talking to the owners and occupiers of the sites, and reporting their findings.Wardens are recruited by the Department of the Environment by open competition. They are part-time employees and they work from their homes. They are required to have a good understanding of field monuments and of agricultural matters. The present salary is a flat rate of £58·54 for a month of 40 working hours.There are 20 wardens in post. They are required to obtain permission before visiting monuments on private land. Only in exceptional circumstances would they be specifically authorised to enter land under section 9(1) of the Ancient Monuments Act 1931.

Burial Act 1853

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, whether he proposes to introduce legislation designed to amend the provisions contained in section 5 of the Burial Act 1853; and if he will make a statement.

Consideration is being given to this and other aspects of burial law which stand in need of revision, but we can hold out no prospect of legislation being introduced by the Government during the current Session.

Housing (Walsall)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will give details of the total sums allocated to Walsall council for housing purposes, including the housing investment programme for 1975–76, 1976–77, 1977–78, 1978–79, 1979–80 and the sums at current prices.

Comprehensive allocations for housing capital expenditure were first given to local authorities for 1977–78. The allocations made to Walsall council, at current prices are:

1977–781978–791979–80
£million£million£million
17·918·316·8

Local Government Act 1972 (Elections)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will introduce legislation to remove the disqualifications which prevent public service workers from standing for election to the authority which employs them.

I do not intend to amend those provisions of the Local Government Act 1972 which disqualify local government employees from election to the council which employs them and appointment to its committees.

Housing Associations

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many people were employed by housing associations for each of the last 10 years; and how many houses were managed for each of those years.

The estimated size of the housing stock for the last 10 years is estimated at:

December 1969135,000
December 1970147,000
December 1971162,000
December 1972174,000
December 1973187,000
December 1974200,000
December 1975220,000
December 1976245,000
December 1977290,000
December 1978330,000
The numbers of staff employed by housing associations has not been recorded centrally until fairly recently. Staff numbers from March 1979 for registered housing associations are now being recorded by the Housing Corporation by computer and it is expected that this information will be available by mid-1980.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what amounts have been paid in deficit payments to housing associations for each of the past five years; and in respect of how many units.

Total payments of deficit grant made to registered housing associations under sections 31 to 33 of the Housing Act 1974 have been as follows:

£ million
1975–62·2
1976–78
1977–810·8
1978–917·4
1979–8012·1
(to 31.10.79)
Information giving the number of units provided by housing associations in respect of which grant was paid in each of these years could be reassembled only at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the average cost to public funds of each dwelling unit built by housing associations by regions over each of the past five years.

The following table is based on schemes funded by the Housing Corporation which were given tender approval during the 1978–79 financial year, and gives both total approved unit costs—that is, including land, property purchase, construction, legal and design fees, and so on—and approved building costs:

AVERAGE UNIT COSTS AT TENDER STAGE
Estimated total costEstimated building cost
££
New build
England14,00011,400
London20,30015,700
Rehabilitation
England11,6007,700
London15,7009,500
Information in respect of the four preceding years in the form requested could only be produced at disproportionate cost.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he has any proposals to absorb housing associations into the appropriate local authority housing departments; and if he will make a statement;(2) if he has any proposals to absorb all the housing associations into the Housing Corporation centrally; and if he will make a statement.

Departmental Staff (Powers Of Entry)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what training is given to officers in his Department and in public bodies ultimately answerable to him, who have powers of search and entry, with regard to surveillance techniques and methods of gaining entry into premises.

My officials do not receive training of the kind my hon. Friend has in mind. I regret that information about public bodies for which I have some responsibility is not readily available.

Copec Housing Association

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much money has been paid to the Copec housing association in deficit payments in respect of how many units over each of the past five years.

The information requested for each of the association's past five accounting years is as follows:

Revenue deficit grantAverage number of units
£
Year to
31 March 1975130,3361,051
31 March 1976253,7281,310
31 March 1977180,1731,599
31 March 1978426,9951,841
31 March 1979*410,0002,293
* The revenue deficit grant claim for 1978–79 has not yet been finally determined. £410,000 represents the sum paid on account to the association.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the average cost to public funds of each dwelling unit built by the Copec housing association over each of the past five years.

The information is not available in the form requested and would be disproportionately costly to provide. Every new building scheme is scrutinised individually before any public money is committed, and its cost related to the cost yardstick prevailing at the time.

Local Government (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what response he has received to his consultation document on local government capital expenditure controls.

None. The consultation document which was sent to the local authority associations on 25 October invited comments by 17 November.

Mersey Estuary

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the pollution of the Mersey estuary.

No. I refer the hon. Member to my reply of 20 June—[Vol. 968, c. 574–75]—to his previous question on this subject and also to the reply from my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State on 26 October to the right hon. Member for Widnes (Mr. Oakes).—[Vol. 972. c. 322–23.]

Local Authorities (Staff)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his latest estimate of the level of local authority manpower.

Following is the information for England and Wales:

Full-time employeesPart-time employeesThousands Full-time equivalent employees
June 19791,7359362,104

Source: Joint Manpower Watch.

Toilet Facilities

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, as part of the Government's plans to help small businnesses, if he will consider raising the number of employees under the sanitary conveniences regulations which make mandatory the provision of separate sex lavatory facilities from the current number of five.

I have been asked to reply.In its report, "Health and Safety Legislation: Should we distinguish between men and women?", the Equal Opportunities Commission—EOC—stated that employers could be helped to comply with their obligations under the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 if, in places of employment covered by these and other regulations, separate sanitary accommodation did not have to be provided for men and women. The report points out that the Health and Safety Commission—HSC—which has the statutory duty of proposing changes in these requirements, would welcome comments from any who would be affected by a change in the law.I wrote to the chairman of the HSC in June, asking the Commission to consider the EOC's recommendations and to submit proposals to me in the light of comments that it receives. It is consulting, and I look forward to receiving its recommendations.

Northern Ireland

Voluntary Schools (Land Acquisition)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much land has been vested on behalf of voluntary schools under article 10 of the Northern Ireland Education Order 1978 and whether any such scheme is presently under consideration.

No land has been acquired compulsorily and no schemes are currently under consideration.

European Community Aid

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, for the latest convenient period to date, what is the total of non-quota EEC aid to Northern Ireland and the amount of that total which related to cross-border projects.

Nil. But the Commission has recently put forward proposals for the use of the non-quota section of the European regional development fund. These envisage 8 million units of account for projects in border areas in Northern Ireland. These proposals are now the subject of consideration by the Council of Ministers and the Assembly.

School Building

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the capital projects currently in the course of planning costing in excess of £250,000 as (a) voluntary grammar schools in Northern Ierland and (b) maintained grammar schools in Northern Ireland.

a) Voluntary Grammar Schools in Northern Ireland

Assumption High School, Ballynahinch. Sullivan Upper Grammar School, Hollywood.
St. Louis Grammar School, Ballymena.
Methodist College, Belfast.
Sacred Heart Grammar School, Newry.

( b) Controlled Grammar Schools under the management of Education and Library Boards

Banbridge Academy.

Precise costings are not yet available but expenditure on these projects is currently expected to be in excess of £250,000.

Companies (Northern Ireland) Order 1978

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he expects to make regulations bringing the Companies (Northern Ireland) Order 1978 into effect.

Almost half the order has been brought into operation by three commencement orders already made by the Department of Commerce. Two parts of the order, and some individual related articles, are still to be brought into effect. They deal with:

  • (i) the winding-up of companies and the introduction of an official assignee service for company liquidation, and
  • (ii) the accounting and audit provisions.
  • Work has begun on the necessary subordinate legislation, rules, forms and instructions which are a prerequisite to bringing the winding-up provisions into operation, but it is considered inappropriate to implement the accounting and audit provisions until the results of consultations on the proposals contained in the consultative document on company accounting and disclosure—Cmnd 7654—have been considered.

    Off-Licensees (Prosecutions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many off-licensees in Northern Ireland were prosecuted in the past 12 months for serving alcohol to minors; and what fines were imposed.

    The information requested is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Arms And Ammunition

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what amounts of arms and ammunition have been discovered by the security forces in Northern Ireland in the past two months; and if he will publish the precise localities in which they were discovered.

    In September and October 1979 a total of 24 weapons and 2,188 rounds of ammunition were found by the security forces in Northern Ireland. Principal weapon finds took place in the New Lodge, Ballymacarrett and City centre area of Belfast, in Londonderry, Portadown and Armagh. Large finds of ammunition were made in the New Lodge and Turf Lodge areas of Belfast and in the Lisnaskea area. Smaller finds were made in West and North Belfast, in Londonderry, Lurgan, Armagh, Holywood, Castlereagh, Newry, Rosslea and Garvagh.

    Terrorists (Average Age)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the average age of those charged with terrorists activities during the months of September and October; and how this compares with the average age of those charged in 1969.

    The average age of persons charged with terrorist activities during the months of September and October was 21½ years. The information requested for 1969 is not readily available and could not be provided without disproportionate cost.

    Housing Executive Property (Squatters)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what estimates he has at present of the number of squatters in Northern Ireland Housing Executive property in each district area in Belfast.

    Commercial Property (Compensation Claims)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many claims for compensation affecting commercial property there are arising from terrorist incidents which are at present being processed by the Northern Ireland Office; and how long it has been since they were submitted.

    Ballygowan Road, Castlereagh

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) if he will give the traffic count and accident figures for the stretch of road between Davidson's Corner and Roselawn cemetery on the Ballygowan Road, Castlereagh;(2) if he will give details of the proposed phase II of the Ballygowan Road scheme affecting the stretch of road between Davidson's Corner and Roselawn cemetery, indicating its cost, including compensation; what alternative proposals were considered; what time scale is contemplated; and what is the type and length of road planned;(3) for what reasons he is proposing to construct the phase II Ballygowan Road; and what advantage the proposed road will bring to (

    a) road users, and ( b) residents in the area;

    (4) how many acres of agricultural and other land need to be vested if the proposed phase II Ballygowan Road scheme is implemented; what effect it will have on farms in the area; how many are involved; and what consultation his Department has had with farmers and others in the area;

    (5) if, in view of his policy of financial restraints, he will review the necessity of proceeding with the phase H Ballygowan Road scheme at the present time;

    (6) what financial assistance from EEC sources are being sought or obtained for the phase II Ballygowan Road scheme;

    (7) whether the Department of the Environment (Road Services) communicated, in 1974, with landowners affected by the proposed phase II Ballygowan Road scheme indicating that the Department had no intention of proceeding with the scheme for at least 15 years; and which recent developments have caused him to change his mind;

    (8) in view of the deep concern of residents in the area affected by the proposed phase II Ballygowan Road scheme, if he will consider holding a public inquiry if there is strong objection indicated in the replies received to the opportunity given by his Department for written objections.

    Trade

    Coal Imports

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) how much coal was imported in the year ended 30 June by country of origin; and what was the average price per tonne of imported coal on the same basis;(2) what are the latest estimated amounts of imported coal for the current year, by country of origin.

    Following is the available information:

    I. UNITED KINGDOM IMPORTS OF COAL IN THE PERIOD JULY 1978 TO JUNE 1979
    TonnesAverage value per tonne (£'s cif)
    Total of which consigned from:2,487,99032·87
    Australia1,142,16927·21
    United States of America441,01836·51
    Poland437,87930·44
    Federal Republic of Germany230,95052·29
    Soviet Union85,32642·56
    Irish Republic60,17428·34
    Morocco25,14250·16
    South Africa24,02733·59
    Belgium-Luxembourg21,02956·22
    Netherlands20,26629·94
    France1068·80
    II. UNITED KINGDOM IMPORTS OF COAL IN THE PERIOD JANUARY TO AUGUST 1979
    Tonnes
    Total of which consigned from:2,142,027
    Australia1,179,262
    Poland409,190
    United States of America263,690
    Federal Republic of Germany139,788
    Soviet Union43,480
    Irish Republic39,497
    Netherlands19,146
    South Africa17,961
    Morocco16,462
    Belgium-Luxembourg13,541
    France10

    Notes:

    (1) Corresponding information by country of origin could be provided only at disproportionate cost and would indicate only the place where the coal was last processed (including washing, screening and grading) and not necessarily the country of production.

    (2) Values per tonne, derived from the Overseas Trade Statistics, are not true prices; they are influenced by differences in the type and quality of the coal imported.

    London Airports

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he has made a decision regarding the new and improved London airport or a new London airport; if he will indicate when he expects to make an official announcement, and if he will make a statement.

    No decision has been taken on longer-term airport development in the London area. I will consider the matter when I have the reports of the advisory committee on airports policy and the study group on South-East airports, which I expect to receive shortly. An official announcement will be made as soon as the Government have reached a view on the issues involved.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many letters he has received protesting against the construction of a third London airport at Hoggeston, Willingale, Yardley Chase, Stansted, Maplin and Cargley, respectively.

    [pursuant to his reply. 2 November 1979, c. 707]: By 31 October my Department had received 1,491 letters about the third London airport since the publication of the progress report of the study group on South-East airports on 18 May. 1,275 were concerned with specific sites listed by the hon. Member; almost all were letters of protest. The breakdown is as follows:

    Maplin49
    Willingale103
    Stansted387
    Langley440
    Yardley Chase152
    Hoggeston144

    Companies House

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) whether, in view of the Companies House service having made a profit of £2·9 million in 1978, he will resist any attempts to cut this service, and strengthen and improve it in the interests of improved disclosure of information;(2) if it is his intention to cut the service by Companies House by (a) abolishing the discretionary power to allow companies to omit "Limited" in their name and the requirement to include directors' names on business documents, (

    b) abolishing the registry of business names, ( c) abolishing the discretionary power covering undisposable company names, ( d) replacing the "on demand" public search service with one based upon 24 hours' notice, and ( e) ceasing company file maintenance.

    All Departmental functions are being reviewed, including the functions of the registrars of companies and business names, to determine the scope for reductions in the size of the civil service. The fact that a function is fee-earning does not mean that it should be excluded from this exercise.

    Fireworks

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade, if he will consider introducing legislation to prevent the retail sale of fireworks until one week before Guy Fawkes' night.

    The restricted period during which fireworks are now generally available in the shops was agreed after full consultations during the Department's review on firework safety which took place in 1975. For safety reasons, there are strict controls governing the transport and storage of fireworks. Safety problems would be far greater if sales were concentrated in a very short period.

    Powdered Milk

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will seek to introduce legislation which gives him power to regulate the sale of powdered baby milk to developing countries on clearly defined conditions.

    No. It would be inappropriate to interfere with the overriding right of independent foreign Governments to decide for themselves what products should or should not be imported in the light of local conditions.

    Metrication Board

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what plans he has to disband the Metrication Board.

    I have nothing to add to the reply given by my hon. Friend to the question from my hon. Friend the hon. Member for Aldridge-Brownhills (Mr. Shepherd) on 26 October.

    Estate Agents Act

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the original estimate of additional staff required at central Government level to enact the Estate Agents Act 1979; whether that figure has been exceeded; and what the current staffing requirements are to facilitate enforcement of the Act.

    The original estimate was four. Staff in excess of that figure have not been appointed. No provision requiring enforcement is yet in operation.

    Foundry Castings (Imports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what steps he is taking to control and reduce the amount of foundry castings imports into the United Kingdom.

    Textile Imports

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what agreement has been negotiated between the EEC and Morocco on textiles, as reported in the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce magazine, July 1979 issue; and if he will make a statement on the effect of this agreement on the United Kingdom textile industry.

    An arrangement under which Morocco has undertaken to exercise voluntary restraint on the export of certain textile products to the EEC was concluded in January this year. It will cover the three years 1979, 1980 and 1981. The effect will be to increase the protection afforded to the United Kingdom industry from low-cost imports.

    Batteries

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade, if he is satisfied with the safety of batteries used in hearing aids and pocket calculators.

    Soviet Shipping

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade which United Kingdom ports are currently closed to Soviet merchant ships; and which Soviet ports are closed to United Kingdom shipping.

    [pursuant to his reply, 2 November 1979, c. 707]: Soviet commercial vessels engaged on international voyages have free access to all British ports. There are no Soviet commercial ports closed specifically to United Kingdom shipping. There are, however, a number of Soviet ports where there are no customs houses or frontier guard patrol points, which are closed to all foreign vessels. A comprehensive list of these ports is not available.

    Trading Agreements (Comecon)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list all current Government sponsored trading agreements with the Soviet Union, and with each of its Eastern European COMECON partners.

    [pursuant to his reply, 2 November 1979, c. 709]: There are no existing bilateral trade agreements with the CMEA countries, because responsibility for concluding trade agreements on behalf of the member of the European Economic Community rests with the European Commission.However, the United Kingdom has a number of long-standing economic and industrial agreements with the CMEA countries. The main ones are:1.

    USSR

    Long Term Agreement for Economic, Industrial, Scientific and Technological Co-operation (1974).

    2. Bulgaria

  • (a) Agreement on the Development of Economic, Industrial, Scientific and Technological Co-operation (1974).
  • (b) Programme for the Development of Long Term Economic, Industrial, Scientific and Technological Co-operation (1975).
  • 3. Czechoslovakia

    • Co-operation Agreement between United Kingdom and Czechoslovakia (1972).

    4. German Democratic Republic

    • Agreement on the development of Economic, Industrial Scientific and Technological Co-operation (1973).

    5. Hungary

    • Economic, Industrial and Technological Co-operation Arrangement (1972).

    6. Poland

  • (a) Long Term Agreement for the Development of Economic, Industrial, Scientific and Technical Co-operation (1973).
  • (b) Long Term Programme for the Further Development of Economic, Industrial, Scientific and Technical Co-operation (1975).
  • (c) Five Year Agreement on Economic Co-operation (1976).
  • 7. Romania

  • (a) Long Term Agreement for Economic Collaboration and Industrial and Technological Co-operation (1975).
  • (b) Long Term Programme for further development of Economic Collaboration and Industrial and Technological Co-operation (1977).