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Written Answers

Volume 974: debated on Tuesday 27 November 1979

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 27 November 1979

Environment

Council Houses (Sale)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what proposals he has to enable local authorities to replace (a) all, (b) a proportion of, council houses sold, with new or acquired properties.(2) what information on the sale of council houses he collects from local authorities and other sources; and if he will make this available in the Library.

Pursuant to my reply of 26 July—[Vol. 971, c. 466]—in which I said that information was not available in this form, I regret that this was in error. The information requested in the hon. Member's first question is as follows:

Local authorities' capital allocations will continue to be settled in the context of discussions of housing investment programmes.
In respect of the hon. Member's second question, the information is as follows:

England and Wales figures for each quarter derived from authorities' returns on dwellings sold or leased are published in "Housing and Construction Statistics". The number of dwellings sold by each authority each calendar year is published in "Local Housing Statistics".
Annual information about individual authorities also appears in "Housing Statistics—Part 2" published by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy.
As part of their housing investment programme submissions, authorities are asked for forecasts of sales in future years. A copy of each authority's original submission is placed in the Library of the House.

Defence

Regular Reservists (Mobilisation)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what measures he proposes to take to reduce the time required for the mobilisation of regular reservists.

A major objective of current NATO planning is to accelerate the processes of mobilisation and reinforcement in an emergency in order to strengthen the defence and deterrent capability of the Alliance in the face of the continuing build-up in Warsaw Pact military strength and readiness. In accordance with this objective I have decided to introduce a new mobilisation scheme for the Army's Regular reservists. Under existing arrangements these Regular reservists are required in peace time to report their availability by post at quarterly intervals and, when mobilised, to report to a central depot according to their regimental affiliation. No direct personal contact with these reservists is maintained in peacetime.Under the new scheme Regular reservists will report in person on one day a year to a specified local unit so that their records may be updated, their fitness for their role assessed and the uniform and equipment, which they will maintain at home, inspected. A small amount of refresher training may also take place. An annual reporting grant of £100—taxable—and travelling expenses will be paid. On mobilisation Regular reservists will report either to their local unit or to a local centre, which will be dedicated to reinforcement of a specific formation. I am confident that the new scheme will prove attractive both to those members of the Army's Regular Reserve who already have a liability to report annually for training in peacetime and to reservists with no such liability who will be invited to volunteer to participate in the new arrangement. All those reservists concerned are being informed individually of the new scheme and initial issues of uniform and equipment will be made in November 1980.A similar scheme is being introduced for the Royal Marine element of the Royal Fleet Reserve. In due course this will be extended to the Royal Navy element but on a selective basis. There is no present intention to extend the scheme to RAF reservists.I estimate that the new scheme will halve the time required to mobilise these Regular reservists and it will therefore be an important and valuable enhancement of our defence capability.

Privy Council Office

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what adjustments are required to the cash limits for the Privy Council Office in 1979–80.

The cash limit of £363,000 for the Privy Council Office for 1979–80 will be raised by £13,000 to cover salary and other increases which cannot be contained within the existing provision.

House Of Commons

Select Committees (Specialist Advisers)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will list in the Official Report the total cost of specialist advisers to the Defence and External Affairs Sub-Committee of the Expenditure Committee for each year since the establishment of the Sub-Committee, the names of these advisers and how often the services of each were used,

Financial YearDays WorkedTotal CostPer Diem Allowance
££
1971–72101·7518·50
1972–7326½490·2518·50
1973–7421388·5018·50
1974–7514348·7918·50 then 25·00
1975–7683½2,213·7925·00
1976–77902,385·2725·00
1977–78681,680·1620·00 and 25·00
1978–7961½1,594·9325·00 then 27·50
1979–8015½518·7827·50
Total385½£9,722·22

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will list in the Official Report the total cost of specialist advisers to all Select Committees for 1977–78 and 1978–79, the total number of hours for which these advisers

Financial YearTotal CostDays WorkedPer Diem Allowance
£
1977–7826,662·78944Between £15 and £25
1978–7927,092·58939Between £13 and £27·50
1979–807,754·24273¼Between £16·50 and £27·50

the total number of hours for which these advisers were paid, the per diem allowance for these advisers and the number of these advisers who were full time.

Between 1971 and 1979 the Defence and External Affairs Sub-Committee of the Expenditure Committee used the following special advisers:

Brigadier K. Hunt, OBE, MC.
Rear-Admiral E. F. Gueritz, CB, OBE, DSC.
Air Chief Marshal Sir Christopher Foxley Norris, GCB, DSO, OBE.
Brigadier W. Thompson.
Mr Richard Davy.
Mr. David Watt.
Air Vice-Marshal R. Harding, CBE.
There were no full-time specialist advisers. In addition, between 1973 and 1979, the Sub-Committee had the full-time assistance of two staff seconded from the Exchequer and Audit Department.It is not the practice to give details of the pay and conditions of individual servants of the House. Specialist advisers are paid on the basis of days—or part days—worked. Following are the details of the number of days worked and payments made to the part-time specialist-advisers to the Sub-Committee.were paid, the per diem allowances for these advisers, the number of these advisers who were full-time and the number of hours they were employed.

Works Of Art

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether, bearing in mind paragraph 58 of the Third Report of the Expenditure Committee (Environment Sub-Committee) of Session 1977–78, he proposes to make use in due course of the Standing Commission on Museums and Galleries in order to ascertain, with the assistance of appropriate expert assessors selected ad hoc in each case by that commission to advise it, the preeminence or otherwise of works of art offered to the Commissioners of Inland Revenue in satisfaction of capital transfer tax in accordance with paragraph 17(4) of schedule 4 to the Finance Act 1975, as amended by section 124 of the Finance Act 1976.

I recognise the importance of the point which the hon. Member is making. I am at present considering this matter in consultation with the expert advisers, the Standing Commission on Museums and Galleries, and the Royal Commission on Historical Manuscripts.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster in which year the practice was commenced of covering by Government indemnities against loss or damage of works of art on loan from national museums and galleries to buildings belonging to the National Trust; and what has been the total sum paid since that year in satisfaction of claims thus arising.

Except for one case this year on which no claim has arisen, it has not been the Government's practice to indemnify national museums and galleries in respect of loans to buildings belonging to the National Trust. However, the National Heritage Bill now before the House makes provision for such indemnities.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether, pursuant to his written answer to the hon. Member for Warley, East, Official Report, 2 November, column 674, formal allocation procedures having now been completed, he will make a further statement on the matter.

Yes. On 13 November my right. hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland announced the allocation of the Fisher Papers to Churchill College, Cambridge.

Energy

Coal Industry (Eec Funds)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what allocations of EEC funds have been made to assist development of the coal industry in Scotland in (a) the medium term and (b) the longer term; and what proportion these will be of the overall allocations to the industry in the United Kingdom.

Substantial loans have been made by the ECSC to the NCB for groups of colliery projects and for other expenditures which are not specific to particular pits. In most cases these loans cannot be ascribed to individual projects or areas, but they have covered groups which included projects at Bogside and Frances/Seafield in Scotland. In addition, the Board has received grants for research and development from the Community, but again it is not possible to attribute the assistance these might provide to the development of particular parts of the United Kingdom coal industry.

Electricity

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the current estimate of the medium-term trend of annual growth of electricity demand in England and Wales.

The Electricity Council currently estimates average growth in electricity requirements from the Central Electricity Generating Board over the period from now until the middle 1980s at about 2 per cent. per annum.

Wave Energy

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the annual layout of the United Kingdom and Japan upon their joint venture on wave energy; and what are the comparative figures for the United States of America.

The United Kingdom, United States, Canada and Japan agreed a three-year collaborative programme of work to develop wave power air turbine generating systems in April 1978. The Republic of Ireland subsequently joined the programme. The centrally funded part of the programme will cost 140 million yen—approximately £320,000. The individual contributions are approximately equivalent to:

Canada£55,000
Republic of Ireland£34,000
Japan£77,000
United Kingdom£77,000
United States£77,000
In addition, the United Kingdom Government agreed to contribute one of the two turbines associated with the project—the other being supplied by the United States Government. For the United Kingdom turbine a £265,000 contract was placed with a United Kingdom firm.
First supply to national grid i.e. synchronised
StationOriginal estimated cost £'000Final cost (current estimate) £'000Unit No.Original estimated dateActual date or current estimate (E)
Drax "A"103,125155,0001January 1971November 1973
(March 1966 prices)2January 1972December 1973
3January 1973December 1974
Drax completion685,100780,000*419841984 (E)
(March 1978 prices)519851985 (E)
619851986 (E)
* Expenditure incurred to date plus estimated balance to completion based on current price levels (October 1979).
Power stations in Scotland and Northern Ireland are the responsibility of my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Scotland and for Northern Ireland.

Diving Operations

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many inquiries or investigations into diving deaths in the North Sea are presently taking place; and when such accidents occurred.

I have been asked to reply.Inquiries are being made into two fatal accidents involving diving operations in the North Sea. In the first, which occurred on 8 August 979, two men died when a bell from which they were working broke loose from the hoisting wire. In the second accident, on 17 October 1979, a diving supervisor died as a result of being dragged overboard from a diving support vessel by a diving bell cable.

In 1978–79, £207,000 was spent on this project by the United Kingdom. Comparative figures for the United States and Japan are not known.

Coal-Fired Power Stations

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what were the original estimates of construction cost and time and the actual construction cost and time, or the latest available estimates of these, for each coal-fired power station ordered in the United Kingdom since 1965 or ordered before 1965 and still under construction.

No coal-fired power station ordered before 1965 is still under construction in England and Wales. For coal-fired power stations ordered since 1965, the figures are:

asked the Secretary of State for Energy (1) what laws or regulations govern the procedures and actions to be taken in the case of or loss of a diving bell while in the water;(2) what are the minimum emergency provision of air, heat and communication required on a diving bell in the event of it breaking free from its support whilst underwater.

I have been asked to reply.Inshore diving operations which come within the scope of the Factories Act 1961 are governed by the Diving Operations Special Regulations 1960. Offshore the following virtually identical codes of regulations apply:

The Offshore Installations (Diving Operations) Regulations 1974.
The Merchant Shipping (Diving Operations) Regulations 1975.
The Submarine Pipe-Lines (Diving Operations) 1976.

The Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 also applies to all divers at work in Great Britain and its territorial waters and to those engaged in diving in connection with offshore installations and submarine pipelines on the continental shelf.

There are general requirements in these regulations for the issue of diving manuals or rules for securing the safety, health and welfare of divers, including emergency procedures. More specifically, a diving bell is required to be provided with a means whereby, in the event of the failure of the main lifting gear, the chamber can be returned to the surface. If this involves the shedding of weights they have to be capable of being shed from the chamber by a person inside and there must be arrangements to prevent their accidental shedding.

The regulations applying to diving operations involving the use of a bell require an emergency supply of breathing mixture to be provided in the event of a diving bell breaking loose; this reserve supply has to be immediately available for divers inside or outside the bell. The regulations also require that a diver in a bell should have a two-way oral communication system for maintaining contact with the surface and with any diver outside the bell; in addition, there must be arrangements for emergency signalling. In respect of heating the regulations make no specific reference to emergency provision, but there is a continuing requirement that a diving bell should be equipped for heating and this requirement continues to apply even when the bell has broken free.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many divers have died in each year since 1970, giving this as a proportion of the number of divers employed; and how this compares with the occupational death rate for seafarers, fishermen and miners.

I have been asked to reply.The numbers of divers reported to have suffered fatal accidents while working offshore in the United Kingdom sector of the continental shelf, together with

broad estimates of the maximum number so employed in each year, are as follows:

YearEstimated maximum number employedFatalities
19712001
19722001
19734002
19745005
19756006
19768009
19771,0003
19781,5002
1979 (to date)1,500(3)
I am advised that, because divers tend to be employed in the North Sea for only part of the year, and may move from one national sector to another during that time, it would be misleading to derive any fatal accident incidence rates from these figures. It is, however, clear from these figures that despite the recent reduction in fatalities diving is still a more dangerous occupation than any of the others cited.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many divers have died while operating in, or from, a diving bell; and how many of them occurred after the diving bell broke free from its supports.

I have been asked to reply.Since 1971, 11 divers have died while operating in or from a diving bell in connection with the exploration and exploitation of oil and gas in the United Kingdom sector of the continental shelf, and four of these died after the diving bell broke away from its support system.

Government Policies (Co-Ordination)

Q5.

asked the Prime Minister what plans she has to co-ordinate taxation, welfare, employment and housing policies to restore incentive to work.

We try to co-ordinate those policies in our day-to-day work. I know my hon. Friend is particularly concerned that the gap between welfare benefits and net take-home pay is too small and we are mindful of the points he continues to argue so cogently.

Wales

Nuclear Waste (Dumping)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he has any plans to permit the dumping of nuclear waste in any area of Wales; and if he will make a statement.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Caernarvon (Mr. Wigley) on 29 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 378.]

Tuc And Cbi

Q6.

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister when she expects next to meet the Trades Union Congress general council.

Q43.

asked the Prime Minister when she will next meet the TUC and the CBI.

Q45.

West Midlands

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister what plans she has for visiting the West Midlands.

Ussr

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister what plans she has for meeting the President of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

I renewed an invitation extended to President Brezhnev by the last Government to visit this country. There has been no discussion about dates for such a visit.

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her public engagements for 27 November.

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for 27 November.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q42.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

Q44.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

Q46.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

Q47.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

Q49.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her engagements for Tuesday 27 November.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 27 November.

I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, Central (Mr. Cook).

Lord Chancellor's Department

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will appoint an hon. Member to be a junior Minister assisting the Lord Chancellor in his administrative and parliamentary responsibilities.

No. The Lord Chancellor's main responsibilities are personal to himself; too few could be delegated to justify the appointment of a further Minister to answer for him in this House in addition to the Law Officers.

Purine Laboratory

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will provide alternative funding so as to ensure the continuance of the medical research work now being undertaken by the Purine Laboratory at Guy's Hospital medical school.

No. The question of seeking support for the work being undertaken by the laboratory is essentially one for Guy's Hospital medical school.

Book Of Common Prayer

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister whether, notwithstanding the provisions of the Worship and Doctrine Measure 1974, she will bring forward legislation to provide that the 1662 Book of Common Prayer shall remain available for use in any parish church should the incumbent or parochial church council so desire.

The use of the forms of service in the 1662 Book of Common Prayer is protected by the Worship and Doctrine Measure 1974, and the use in churches of these forms of service is a matter for decision by incumbents and parochial church councils.

European Community Heads Of Government

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister when next she expects to meet EEC Heads of Government.

I shall be meeting all my EEC colleagues at the European Council in Dublin on 29 and 30 November.

European Community (Monetary Arrangements)

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister what proposals she intends to put before the European Council meeting at Dublin regarding the need for for change in the monetary arrangements within the Community.

If the hon. Gentleman is referring to the United Kingdom contribution to the Community budget, I refer him to the speech made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer in this House on Thursday last, 22 November.

Latin American Refugees

Q36.

asked the Prime Minister what representations she has had regarding the Government's future policy towards refugees seeking entry into Great Britain from Latin America.

Local Authority Associations

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if she has any plans to address the local authority associations.

Rhodesia

Q41.

asked the Prime Minister how many letters she had received from the general public concerning Rhodesia.

Since the announcement of the Lancaster House conference I have received over 400 letters.

Public Expenditure Cuts

Q48.

asked the Prime Minister what representations she has personally received about her Government's cuts in public expenditure.

I have received several hundred letters and a number of petitions.

European Communities (Treaties)

asked the Prime Minister how she proposes to allocate ministerial responsibility for the introduction of draft Orders in Council designating community treaties pursuant to section 1(3) of the European Communities Act 1972.

The Government noted from earlier debates on section 1(3) orders that Parliament is concerned with the impact a Community Treaty entered into by the United Kingdom may have upon United Kingdom domestic law. Accordingly, we have decided that it would normally be more appropriate for departmental Ministers rather than Foreign and Commonwealth Office Ministers to introduce draft orders so that they may explain the significance of the Treaty and answer questions on detail.

Telephone Tapping

asked the Prime Minister which Minister is responsible for the authorisation of telephone tapping.

The position remains as described in the report of the Birkett committee, Cmnd. 283.

Security Services

asked the Prime Minister if, in the light of the Blunt affair, she will now set up a full inquiry, whether of Privy Councillors or others, into procedures for the public accountability of the security services and the co-ordination of political control between Ministers for this purpose.

Prime Minister (Speech)

asked the Prime Minister if she will place in the Library a copy of her public speech on foreign affairs given at the Lord Mayor's Banquet on Monday 12 November.

Education And Science

Universities

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has any plans to close down any British university within the next five years; and if he will make a statement.

Contraceptive Pills (Studies)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what studies he is making of the effects of contraceptive pills when usage has been discontinued after a period of years.

The Medical Research Council is currently supporting two long-term studies concerned with contraception. One, at the Royal College of General Practitioners in Manchester and entitled "A study of Oral Contraception", is a large-scale study of the effects of oral contraceptives on health. In particular, the morbidity and mortality in current and past users of oral contraceptives is being monitored. It began in 1968 and is at present funded until 1983. The second study, at the Department of Social and Community Medicine, University of Oxford, is a prospective investigation of different methods of contraception including contraceptive pills. This study will provide information about the very long-term and delayed effects of oral contraceptives on serious chronic diseases—principally cancer and cardiovascular diseases. The study, which includes follow-up of women who have discontinued contraception, began in 1969 and is funded until 1984.

School Transport

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many children in the Bolton metropolitan district have a journey in excess of three miles from home to their school.

This information is not collected by my Department. I advise the hon. Member to approach the local education authority direct.

Pupil-Teacher Ratios

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will collect statistics on pupil-teacher ratios in the private sector.

Average pupil-teacher ratios for independent schools are published each year in Statistics of Education, Volume 1, Schools, which is available in the Library.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the national pupil-teacher ratio in local authority secondary and primary schools; and if he will take action to lower the pupil ratio to teachers in local authority schools.

The ratios in England in January 1979 were: within primary schools 23·1:1; and, within secondary schools, 16·7:1. In January 1979, the overall pupil-teacher ratio, which relates all the teachers being paid by authorities to the pupils in maintained nursery, primary and secondary schools, was 18·9:1. The Government's expenditure plans provide for an overall ratio in 1979–80 and 1980–81 of 18·7:1. This is the lowest ever recorded.

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science in what disciplines there is a shortage of teachers; and what action he is taking to train unemployed teachers for these vacancies.

There is known to be a serious and persistent shortage of teachers of mathematics, the physical sciences, and craft, design and technology.The one-year retraining courses for qualified teachers who wish to teach the shortage subjects are to continue in 1980–81, and unemployed teachers may apply for local education authority awards to attend these courses or, if they are over 28, awards from the Manpower Services Commission.

School Buildings (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what has been the expenditure in 1977, 1978 and in the current year to date on the construction of school buildings in England and Wales, excluding new projects.

The Department's records identify expenditure by financial years. For the year 1977–78, expenditure was £237·9 million and, for 1978–79, £208·3 million. Expenditure figures for 1979–80 are not available at present.

Overseas Students

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what arrangements he is making to help outstanding research students from overseas to attend British universities.

Following discussion with the Committee of Vice-Chancellors and Principals, the chairman of the UGC is writing today to universities notifying them of a scheme of assistance to overseas research students. Awards will be equivalent in value to the difference between the fee for a home research student and the fee which would normally be charged to the overseas research student. Selection, under arrangements to be made by the Committee of Vice-Chancellors and Principals, will be purely on academic merit and research potential, irrespective of means, nationality or subject field. The intention is to enable outstanding students to contribute to British university research which has an international reputation. It is expected that some 400 to 500 students will be assisted in the first year beginning in September 1980.

Northern Ireland

Security

50.

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what progress has been made with cross-border co-operation with the Republic of Ireland's security forces.

I am satisfied with the progress made in implementing the measures agreed with Irish Ministers on 5 October. Security considerations preclude my giving specific details, but I am confident that the measures will add to the effectiveness of the common campaign against terrorism and to the two Governments' already extensive co-operation.

Housing Executive (Information)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will give the detailed information about tenants, applicants, and applicants for loans and grants given to the Housing Executive which was not available to members of local authorities when they were responsible for housing in Northern Ireland.

[pursuant to his reply, 13 November 1979, c. 553]: I have nothing to add to my letter of 9 October 1979 to the hon. Member on this subject.

School Grounds (Parking)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland under what circumstances the lands, playgrounds or car parks in schools grounds could be used as a car park by any religious body or church in Northern Ireland for the purpose of parking cars during a religious service.

[pursuant to his reply, 13 November 1979, c. 553]: This is a matter for the courts to decide.

Richmond Street, Londonderry

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) what is now the estimated cost of the Richmond Street scheme in Londonderry; and on this basis what are the economic rental values for (a) retail shops and (b) offices;(2) when he now expects work to begin on the Richmond Street development scheme in Londonderry.

[pursuant to his reply, 19 November 1979, c. 80]: The estimated cost of the scheme on completion and taking into account notional interest on capital employed during construction is £11·5 million. Present market levels would produce annual rentals of:

  • (a) approximately £450,000 for the retail shops, and
  • (b) approximately £130,000 for the offices.
  • The scheme is still under consideration in the light of these figures and the constraints upon public expenditure.

    Defence

    Nuclear Alert

    20.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what contact the United States Government had with Her Majesty's Government over their recent six-minute nuclear alert; and if he will make a statement.

    31.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if the British Government were alterted when the United States computer miscalculation occurred recently; and if he will make a statement.

    36.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the liaison between his Department and the Pentagon, particularly during the recent false nuclear alert.

    As I explained in the answer which I gave on 14 November, the contact was at command level, and the fact that the error was false was confirmed within a minute by the normal checking and verification procedure.

    37.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the safeguards which exist to prevent a nuclear war being initiated as the result of the development of a computer fault.

    When an alert signal is triggered it is subject to the most careful evaluation and verification by highly skilled operators. This is what happened in the recent incident when the alarm was diagnosed as false within seconds.

    41.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence, as a result of the recent red alert for a nuclear war, what further consideration is being given to extending the United Kingdom's nuclear war capacity.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on the future of the United Kingdom strategic nuclear deterrent.

    I refer the hon. Member and my hon. Friend to the answer I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, Central (Mr. Cook).

    Killed And Injured Personnel (Financial Awards)

    22.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he is satisfied with existing procedures for the assessment and payment of financial awards made to members of the Armed Forces killed or severely injured on active service and their dependants.

    Yes, but if my hon. Friend considers there are any inadequacies in the existing procedures, I shall be pleased to look at them.

    Nuclear Deterrent

    21.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on progress being made towards achieving an effective theatre nuclear deterrent.

    38.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the recent meeting of NATO Ministers at The Hague in connection with the modernisation of medium range nuclear weapons in Europe.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what agreement has been reached with North Atlantic Treaty Organisation allies on future disposition of nuclear weapons.

    I refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Members to the reply I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Oldham, East (Mr. Lamond).

    Expenditure

    23.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement concerning the items which will figure in the intended 3 per cent. increase in defence expenditure.

    Defence Estimates for 1980–81 are still in preparation and it is, therefore, too early to say precisely how the defence budget for that year will be be allocated. Our intention is, however, to devote the additional funds to strengthen the fighting efficiency of the forces, in particular by pressing ahead with their re-equipment programmes.

    42.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his latest estimate of the percentage of gross national product spent on military purposes by (a) the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and (b) the NATO Alliance.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave him on 15 November on Soviet military expenditure. NATO calculates its own defence expenditure as a proportion of gross domestic product, and the average such proportion in 1978 was 4·2 per cent.

    48.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about the current level of defence expenditure.

    The original total of defence budget Estimates for the current year was £8,557·7 million at forecast outturn prices. The proposed increases which I explained in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Stretford (Mr. Churchill) on 16 November—[Vol. 973, c. 801–802]—will bring the total defence cash provision for the current year to £9,106·3 million.

    British Army Of The Rhine

    24.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the strength, readiness and training of BAOR.

    Although there is room for improvement in the effectivness of BAOR to match the increasing Warsaw Pact threat, it is fully capable of making its major contribution to the implementation of NATO strategy.

    Royal Navy

    26.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the level of recruitment into the Royal Navy.

    Recruitment into the Royal Navy is showing an encouraging increase by comparison with last year. Numbers in some categories are however still short of requirements but various measures are in hand aimed at improving the position. There is considerable ground to make up, at least in part because of the poor recruiting and retention of recent years.

    Hong Kong

    25.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what percentage of the cost of the garrison of Hong Kong was paid by the Hong Kong Government during each of the past five financial years; and what was the global sum in each case.

    In 1974–75 and 1975–76 the Hong Kong Government made a flat rate contribution of £8·5 million per annum. The global costs of the garrison were not assessed at that time, but they are estimated to have been £42 million in 1974–75 and £44 million in 1975–76.

    Since 1 April 1976, under the terms of the defence costs agreement, the Hong Kong Government have contributed 50 per cent. in 1976–77, 62½ per cent. in 1977–78 and 75 per cent. since then. In calculating the contribution due from the Hong Kong Government, the costs of the garrison have been assessed as £49 million in 1976–77, £51 million in 1977–78 and £56 million in 1978–79. These figures are based on prices prevailing in the quoted years.

    Expenditure (Wales)

    27.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will reconsider the proposed increase in the level of defence expenditure in Wales.

    Although defence expenditure overall will increase by 3 per cent. next year, there is no specific proposal to increase the amount spent in Wales.

    Royal Dockyards

    28.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the progress of the current study being undertaken on the Royal dockyards.

    I have nothing to add to reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Portsmouth, North (Mr. Griffiths) on 25 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 271.]

    Defence Capability

    29.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the state of Great Britain's defences.

    I believe that the United Kingdom's defences, together with those of our NATO allies, remain adequate to fulfil their deterrent task. But there is no room for complacency in the light of the Warsaw Pact military build-up; all member Governments of NATO have accepted the need to strengthen the Alliance. We shall seek to improve the United Kingdom's contribution to collective defence.

    Nuclear Explosions (Accidents)

    30.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received on the dangers of nuclear explosions in East Anglia and in other parts of Great Britain, arising from military accidents; what steps he is taking to reduce such dangers; and if he will make a statement.

    I have received a few letters from Members of Parliament and members of the public about the incident at RAF Lakenheath in 1956. I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Bury St. Edmunds (Mr. Griffths) on 9 November.—[Vol. 973, c. 321–2.]

    Northern Ireland

    32.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about the operations of the security forces in Northern Ireland.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the statement made on 30 October 1979.—[Vol. 972, c. 486.]

    Staff (Dispersal)

    33.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence when he expects the first personnel from his Department to move to the West of Scotland as a result of the recent announcement on Civil Service dispersal.

    I have nothing to add to the reply I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Dunbartonshire, East (Mr. Hogg).

    Royal Air Force

    34.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether it is planned to re-equip or improve the performance capabilities of the Harrier force within the Royal Air Force.

    Yes. Options for the procurement of a number of new Harriers are currently being evaluated, and ways of improving the Harriers already in service are also under investigation.

    Europe (Ussr Proposals)

    35.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consideration he has given to the defence implications of the proposals made by President Brezhnev that no Soviet nuclear weapons would be targeted on countries in Europe that refuse to have nuclear weapons sited on their soil.

    In consultation with our Allies, we are carefully considering all the proposals made by President Brezhnev in his 6 October speech. However, the undertaking on use of nuclear weapons against European countries merely repeats the assurance given by the Soviet Union in the United Nations in 1978. At the same time the United Kingdom gave an undertaking not to use nuclear weapons against any State which had agreed not to acquire such weapons unless a State, in association with a nuclear power, attacked the United Kingdom or its allies. The repetition of the Soviet position at this time is clearly intended to be divisive within NATO.The Alliance needs to retain the freedom to deploy its forces, both conventional and nuclear, throughout its territory and the strength of NATO rests on the acceptance of collective defence and shared risk.

    43.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what consultations he has carried out with other NATO members about a possible response to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics' recent offer to reduce the level of its forces in Europe.

    I have had a number of meetings with other NATO Defence Ministers. In the NATO nuclear planning group of 13–14 November I agreed with my colleagues that recent Soviet statements should not be allowed to obscure the disturbing growth in their long range theatre nuclear capability. At the same time we reaffirmed the need for arms control to be pursued in parallel with the modernisation of NATO's theatre nuclear forces, and we welcomed the constructive preparations in the Alliance of proposals to the Soviet Union aimed at reducing the disparity in the level of nuclear forces.

    Royal Naval Reserve

    39.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what particular offshore role the new Royal Naval Reserve Air Reserve will be expected to play.

    On present plans it is intended that the Royal Naval Reserve, Air Branch, will provide a pool of trained officers to assist the Royal Navy in fulfilling two war roles: first, to augment front line squadrons engaged in anti-submarine and commando squadron roles and, second, to supplement communications flying by regular naval crews in fixed wing aircraft and helicopters for a variety of support roles.

    Recruitment (Wales)

    40.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many members of the Armed Forces have been recruited in Wales during the past 12 months.

    A total of 2,432 Service men and women were recruited through careers information offices in Wales in the 12 months to 30 September. This total does not include officers or entrants to the Queen Alexandra's Royal Naval Nursing Service since they are recruited on a central basis and regional figures are not readily available.

    United States Secretary Of Defence (Discussions)

    44.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what recent discussions he has had with the United States Secretary of Defence.

    I met the United States Secretary of Defence and fellow members of the nuclear planning group earlier this month when we discussed a range of issues, including the need for modernisation of NATO's long range theatre nuclear forces in parallel with an arms control approach to the Soviet Union.

    Salt Ii

    46.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what impact the non-ratification of SALT II is likely to have on Western defence.

    SALT II is an important step in the continuing process of arms control which aims to stabilise the strategic balance while safeguarding the essential security interests of the North Atlantic Alliance; its non-ratification would represent a serious check to this process. Western defence planning would, therefore, have to be undertaken against a background of greater unpredictability in East-West relations. The United Kingdom's firm commitment to NATO will, of course, continue whatever the outcome of the SALT debate in the United States Senate.

    Polaris

    45.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a further statement on proposals for replacing Polaris by a new nuclear weapons system.

    I refer the hon. Gentleman to the reply which I gave earlier to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, Central (Mr. Cook).

    Civilian Personnel

    47.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will give the number of skilled civilians employed in his Department in support of Service personnel at the end of April.

    At 1 April 1979 some 31,900 United Kingdom based civilian craftsmen were employed in the Ministry of Defence, including some 3,750 in the Royal ordnance factories. There were, in addition, some 7,750 apprentices of whom about 1,000 were in the Royal ordnance factories.The number of locally entered civilian craftsmen employed at the same date at the major overseas stations, Germany, Gibraltar, Cyprus and Far East, totalled some 4,850.

    Terminal Grants

    49.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will introduce terminal grants retrospectively for Service men retiring before the scheme was introduced.

    The terminal grant has been an integral part of pensions benefit for the Armed Forces since 1950. The expenditure and other implications for both the Armed Forces pension scheme, and elsewhere in the public service, make it impracticable to pay terminal grants retrospectively to Service men who retired before then.

    Army Cadet Force

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will give the figures of the current establishment and strength of Army Cadet Force officers; what proposals he has for encouraging recruitment of officers; and if he will make a statement on the Army Cadet Force.

    The current establishment and strength of Army Cadet officers is around 4,700 and 2,800 respectively. This degree of undermanning, plus the current level of wastage, is serious and two recruiting campaigns have been held this year in an attempt to improve the position. The number of inquiries has increased as a result of these campaigns, but it is too soon to forecast whether these will lead to a real improvement in strengths. It is planned to repeat the campaign next year.The Army Cadet Force is a youth service sponsored by the Ministry of Defence. In addition to the important role it plays in this field, there is an invaluable by-product in the number of cadets who elect to join the Regular and Reserve Forces.

    Ships (Refits)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what ships, and by what amount, have had their long refits lengthened by industrial disputes, shortage of spare parts, etc.

    Industrial disputes over the past 18 months have resulted in a loss of about one-quarter of the total annual capacity of the dockyards. As a result there have been major changes in refit programmes and more work has had to be put out to contract. The effects on operational capability have been alleviated by running on ships that would normally have gone to refit. It is not the practice to disclose the details requested by my hon. Friend as these directly concern operational availability.

    East Of Suez

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what plans he has for establishment of a permanent naval force east of Suez.

    I have no plans to establish a permanent naval force east of Suez. Groups of Royal Navy ships do, however, deploy to the area at regular intervals. At present a task force of a destroyer, five frigates and four support vessels is passing through the Indian Ocean en route for the United Kingdom following a deployment which has taken it to Australia and South-East Asia.

    Ships' Companies (Overseas Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what steps he is taking to make overseas allowances available to ships' companies that spend the greater part of the year in foreign waters.

    Naval personnel serving in Her Majesty's ships in foreign waters receive a seagoing local overseas allowance to compensate for the higher costs experienced abroad. This allowance was extended to North-West European waters in July 1979, having been available elsewhere since 1954. The allowance is not paid while on passage to or from the United Kingdom, but otherwise ships' companies in foreign waters can receive it continuously.

    Employment

    Income And Wealth (Distribution)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will update the tables in paragraphs 5.2, 5.12 and 6.3 in the Royal Commission on the distribution of income and wealth's background paper No. 8.

    The latest figures corresponding to the tables in the Royal Commission on the distribution of income and wealth's background paper No. 8 are:

    Ratio of non-manual to manual average weekly pay(1 )(2 ) ( paragraph 5.2)

    Men

    Women

    19791·201·08

    Great Britain: Pay differentials by skill in engineering

    Ratio of weekly earning including overtime, to average for all adult male workers in engineering(2 ) (paragraph 5.12)

    1979

    Skilled1·06
    Semi-skilled0·96
    Labourers0·83
    Total1·00

    Great Britain: Ratio of women's to men's weekly earnings in industry Adults only (1 )(3 ) ( paragraph 6.3)

    1979

    Non-manual0·53
    Manual0·59
    All0·58

    Notes:

    (1 ) Based on full-time adult employees—men aged 21 and over, women aged 18 and over—in production industries whose pay was not affected by absence.

    Source: New Earnings Survey, April 1979.

    (2 ) Based on June 1979 survey of earnings by occupation.

    (3 ) In interpreting the differences between men's and women's earnings it needs to be emphasised that such differences will reflect differences in the distribution of men and women betwen various occupations, industries and age-groups and differences in length of service and hours—including overtime hours—worked. They do not necessarily imply differences in the rates of pay for men and women doing similar work.

    Incomes Division

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will estimate the annual cost of maintaining his Department's incomes division.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to the right hon. Member for Doncaster (Mr. Walker) on Friday 16 November.—[Vol. 973, c. 789.]

    Tuc

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects next to meet Trades Union Congress leaders; and if he will make a statement.

    My right hon. Friend will be meeting representatives of the TUC on Thursday 29 November.

    Job Release Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people are being paid an allowance under the job release scheme.

    At 7 November 1979, 55,477 people in Great Britain were being paid allowances under the job release scheme.

    Retail Prices (International Comparisons)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for the principal exporting countries the annual increase in retail prices between 1952 and 1978 in the form of an index or otherwise.

    Consumer prices indices for some main exporting countries are shown in the following table.In making comparisons it is important to note that there are differences between countries in coverage and methods of construction of their price indices.

    CONSUMER PRICES INDICES
    1970=100

    Belgium

    Canada

    France

    Germany (F.R.)

    Italy

    Japan

    Netherlands

    United States

    United Kingdom

    1952687051705848546854
    1953686951695951546955
    1954687051696154566956
    1955687051706253576959
    1956707152716454587062
    1957727354736555627264
    1958737561756755637466
    1959747665756655647567
    1960747667766857657667
    1961757770786960667770
    1962767873817364687872
    1963787976837869717974
    1964818179858372758076
    1965848381888677798180
    1966888683918881838483
    1967908985929284868685
    1968939389949388899089
    1969969795969593969494
    1970100100100100100100100100100
    1971104103106105105106108104109
    1972110108112111111111116108117
    1973118116120119123124125114128
    1974133129137127146154137127148
    1975150143153135171172151139184
    1976163153168141200188165147215
    1977175165183146237204176156249
    1978183180200150265211183168270

    Source: International Labour Office—Year Book of Labour Statistics

    Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many teachers are unemployed at present and at the same time in each of the past 10 years.

    The following table gives the numbers of unemployed people registered at employment offices in Great Britain for employment as schoolteachers at September 1979, the latest date for which an occupational analysis is available, and for the corresponding month each year from 1973. Corresponding figures prior to 1973 are not available.

    September 19732,662
    September 19742,452
    September 19754,062
    September 19767,820
    September 197713,672
    September 197813,136
    September 197911,701

    Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list in the Official Report the number and percentage of firms employing (a) under 50 workers, (b) 50 to 99 workers, (c) 100 to 249 workers, (d) 250 to 500 workers, and (e) about 500 workers, or in any convenient similar classification, which fail to employ their quota of disabled workers, and (i) do and (ii) do not, have a permit; and if this data could be presented over a convenient time span.

    I am advised by the Manpower Services Commission that information in the form requested is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. Only national figures for all employers subject to quota are available centrally, and these were given in my reply to the hon. Member on 12 November.—[Vol. 973, c. 490.]

    Standing Commission On Pay Comparability

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the work on references and cases still to be completed by the Standing Commission on pay comparability; and when he expects to begin the review of the Commission's position.

    [pursuant to his reply, 26 November 1979]: Current references to the Standing Commission are as follows: nurses and midwives; professions supplementary to medicine; university technicians; ambulance officers; municipal airport manual workers; British Waterways Board salaried staffs; primary and secondary school and further education teachers; some groups of local authority craftsmen; new towns staff; justices' clerks' assistants—outside inner London; and Scottish local authority chief officials. The Government continue to keep the Commission's work under review and have recently made further references, included in this list.

    Special Temporary Employment Programme

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many persons are currently employed in each region of England under the special temporary employment programme.

    [pursuant to his reply, 26 November 1979]: On 2 November 1979 the number of people employed under the programme in each region was as follows:

    Northern2,769
    North-West3,312
    Yorkshire and Humberside1,153
    Midlands2,588
    South-East550
    South-West666
    London801

    European Community

    Foreign Ministers (Meeting)

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what were the results of the meeting of Foreign Ministers of the Nine on political co-operation held on 20 November.

    My right hon. and noble Friend the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs met his colleagues in the Nine in the framework of political co-operation in Brussels on 20 November. The Foreign Ministers discussed Rhodesia, Iran, and Euro/Arab Dialogue and proposals for a conference on disarmament in Europe.Ministers of the Nine made the following statement on Rhodesia:

    "The Foreign Ministers of the Nine warmly welcome the progress made at the Constitutional Conference at Lancaster House. They commend the parties to the negotiations for the spirit of compromise they have shown and they recognise the role played by other African leaders who have encouraged the efforts to achieve a settlement.
    The Ministers note the agreement reached on an independence constitution providing for genuine majority rule, and on arrangements for the holding of free and fair elections and for the administration of Rhodesia until these take place.
    The Conference has now moved to its final stage—the effort to agree on proposals for a ceasefire. The Foreign Ministers of the Nine note that the British Government has put forward proposals to this end. They hope that agreement will quickly be negotiated on the basis of these proposals so that the present destructive conflict will be brought to a speedy end. This would clear the way for elections and bring about the emergence of a free and independent Zimbabwe to take its rightful place as an accepted member of the world community."

    On Iran, Ministers made the following statement:

    "Ministers of the Nine meeting in Brussels on 20 November considered the latest developments in Iran. They expressed their deep concern at the fact that the Iranian authorities have not fulfilled their obligations under the Vienna Convention and have not given appropriate protection to both the staff and the premises of the American Embassy in Tehran. They have already made their concern known to the Iranian authorities on several occasions through diplomatic channels.
    At their meeting today, the Ministers recalled that in 1976 the European Council expressly condemned any attempt to exert pressure on governments by the taking of hostages. They consider that whatever the nature of the dispute between Iran and the United States the continued holding of diplomatic personnel of the Embassy of a foreign State as hostages and the threat to put them on trial is a breach of international law and as such must be rejected by the Governments of the Nine and the international Community as a whole. The Ministers reject this violation of international law and call upon the Iranian Government to release all the hostages."

    In discussion of the Euro/Arab dialogue Ministers confirmed the importance they attached to the dialogue and expressed their wish to see it go forward. They agreed that contacts should shortly be made with the Secretary-General of the Arab League at Tunis to examine practical ways of pursuing work undertaken in particular raeas of the dialogue. They agreed at the same time that steps should be taken to ensure that all countries concerned should be kept properly informed of developments. The Ministers expressed their hope that conditions would soon exist which would enable all Arab countries to take part in a comprehensive dialogue with the European Community.

    Ministers also considered next year's meeting in Madrid to review progress on the Helsinki conference on security and co-operation in Europe (CSCE). In this context they discussed the proposals made by President Giscard in 1978 for a conference on disarmament in Europe. They reaffirmed their view that it was essential to maintain an overall balance between military and other aspects of security in the CSCE process. Taking into account the French proposals, they agreed that the Nine should work for the adoption, at the Madrid meeting, of a mandate for further negotiations within the CSCE framework on militarily significant and verifiable confidence-buiding measures applicable to the entire European continent. They agreed that the process should take account both of the security interests of member countries and of negotiations already taking place on other aspects of European disarmament.

    Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

    Albania

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether it is the policy of the Government to make the payment of their financial claims against the Albanian Government, directly or indirectly, an obstacle to the return to Albania of the Bank of Albania's gold which was looted from Albania by Hitler.

    Her Majesty's Government would like to bring this problem to a conclusion. Albanian compliance with the International Court of Justice's judgment of 1948 would certainly help in resolving it. There are, however, several problems which must be settled before the three Governments concerned can instruct the Tripartite Commission to deliver to Albania its share of the gold recovered after the last war.

    Commonwealth Institute

    asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the cash grant during the current year payable to the Commonwealth Institute; and whether he considers this is sufficient to cover the maintenance costs of the building and salary increases granted by the most recent Civil Service pay award.

    The grant to the Commonwealth Institute during the current year is expected, subject to parliamentary approval, to be £1,351,000. Whilst the institute, like other bodies funded by Government money, is having to make some economies in expenditure to keep within the amount of its grant, it is continuing to operate effectively and to cover the maintenance costs of the building and the salary increases of staff.

    Home Department

    Immigration

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what reduction he estimates in the number of male fiancés entering the United Kingdom under the new immigration rules.

    It is not possible to be precise about the effect on numbers. But it is estimated that when the new rules are fully operative something like a half of the likely total reduction in recent acceptances for settlement of all nationalities of some 3,000 to 4,000 a year would be as a result of changes in the rules on fiancés and husbands.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the usual practice adopted by his Department concerning the admission of wives and relatives of husbands now resident in the United Kingdom but born in other countries, where such wives are additional to the first wife still existing and the relatives' children are born from other than the first existing wife.

    Such wives and their children would be admitted for settlement only if they held entry clearances. An entry clearance should be issued only in a case where the marriage is thought to be valid under the law of any part of the United Kingdom. The circumstances in which such a marriage may be valid in our law were set out in a reply I gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Northampton, North (Mr. Marlow) on 9 July.—[Vol. 970, c. 7.]

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what studies he made of international opinion before formulating his proposals on im- migration; and what consultations he has had with EEC countries and others before doing so.

    There have been no formal studies or consultations, but as my right hon. Friend said in reply to a question by the hon. Member for Ealing, Southall (Mr. Bidwell) on 5 November, there have been a number of useful discussions with members of other Governments.—[Vol. 973, c. 9.]

    Electoral Arrangements (East Lindsey)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he received concerning the report of the Local Government Boundary Commission for England for new electoral arrangements for East Lindsey.

    Postal Voting

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to tighten the law in relation to incidents of unfair duress and contravention of the secret ballot in relation to postal voting at elections.

    If the hon. Member sends me details of such incidents, I shall consider the matter.

    Vandalism (Wales)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions were taken out in Wales for acts of vandalism in each of the past 10 years on record.

    There is no specific offence of vandalism; the information available relates to offences of criminal damage. Figures for the years before 1975 are not available. The number of prosecutions for criminal damage in Wales since 1975 could be obtained only at disproportionate cost, but the number of persons found guilty of such offences since 1975 has been published in the annual publication "Criminal Statistics, England and Wales"—tables 3(a) and 7(a) of the volume for 1978, Cmnd. 7670.

    Prison Officers (Overtime)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Office what is the present monthly cost of paying overtime to prison officers at Her Majesty's prison, Brixton.

    Bail Hostels

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what research is currently being undertaken into the success of bail hostels and, in particular, the commission of further offences by those resident in bail hostels; and if he will make a statement.

    A study was completed last year of the use which had been made of the bail hostels open during 1977. This showed that almost two-thirds of the persons admitted to bail hostels in that period satisfactorily completed their stay in the hostels. Further research is not currently being undertaken.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many bail hostel places are currently available in England and Wales; and if he has any plans to provide more places.

    A total of 24 bail or combined bail and probation hostels is now in service with 360 places available for bail cases. A further 90 places are in various stages of preparation.

    Lindop Committee

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to complete his considerations of the recommendations made in the Lindop committee report on data protection.

    Repatriation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take action to publicise and make more attractive his schemes for assisted repatriation.

    Cookham Wood Prison

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prisoners were in Cookham Wood prison on 18 June; and why many of them were on night sedatives.

    On 18 June, 54 prisoners were in Cookham Wood prison. Night sedatives were prescribed to those prisoners, who, in the judgment of the doctor responsible for their care, needed them.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many women at Cookham Wood prison were on night sedatives at the latest available date; and if he will make a statement.

    A total of 55 prisoners were at Cookham Wood prison on 22 November of whom 33 were receiving night sedatives.

    Styal Prison

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many women were on night sedatives on the latest available date at Styal prison; and what was the total number of prisoners in the prison that night.

    On 22 November there were 183 prisoners at Styal prison, of whom 14 received night sedatives.

    Risley Remand Centre

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many women prisoners were detained in Risley remand centre on the latest available date; and what was the number on night sedatives on the same date.

    On 22 November, 174 women were detained at Risley remand centre, of whom 12 received night sedation.

    Sexual Offences Act 1967

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he is satisfied with the present working of the Sexual Offences Act 1967;(2) whether he will consider seeking to reduce the age of consent for homosexuals from 21 to 16 years;(3) whether he will consider seeking to amend the law relating to homosexual offences, in view of the large number of convictions for consensual behaviour.

    The Criminal Law Revision Committee is undertaking a review of the law on sexual offences, including the matters to which the hon. Member has drawn attention, in consultation with the policy advisory committee on sexual offences. The Government think it right to await the outcome of this review before considering any changes in this area of the law.

    Emergency Powers

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to announce the results of his review of emergency powers legislation.

    I have no proposals in mind to amend the Emergency Powers Acts 1920 to 1964.

    Cell Block Interchange Unit (Lambeth)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what subsidiary functions the cell block interchange unit situated within Lambeth support headquarters has.

    The functions of the unit, and the uses to which it has been put, are described in my reply to the question by the hon. Lady on 20 November.—[Vol. 974, c. 94–5.]

    Prison Buildings

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the expenditure in 1977, 1978 and in the current year, to date, on the construction of prison buildings in England and Wales excluding new projects.

    The figures, which include the cost of repairs to and maintenance of prison officers' quarters, are as follows:

    1977£5·8 million
    1978£7·9 million
    1979*£8·9 million
    * Up to the end of October

    Drugs (Abuse)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on the most recent report by the advisory council on the abuse of drugs.

    The report by the advisory council on the misuse of drugs on "A Review of the Classification of Controlled Drugs and of Penalties under Schedules 2 and 4 to the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971", was published in June for public information and discussion. The Government will consider the recommendations in the light of comments in due course.

    Community Radio

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether he will publish in the Official Report the wavebands which would be available to community radio without disrupting the existing transmissions;(2) when he now expects to receive the third report of the working party on local radio; whether this report will make further proposals on community radio; and if the report will be published.

    The most suitable frequencies are the medium—MF—and very high frequency—VHF—bands. These already contain United Kingdom network radio services, local radio stations and European domestic services. The scope for introducing low powered local radio stations within these bands without impairing existing transmissions is to be examined by the Home Office local radio working party, whose report will be published in due course.

    Latin America (Refugees)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications he received under the Latin American refugee programme since it started to the latest convenient date; how many of those were admitted; how many applications are currently outstanding; and how long they have been under consideration.

    Applications in respect of 5,121 cases involving 13,861 persons had been received under the Latin American refugee scheme since its inception in 1973 up to 31 October 1979. Of these, entry clearance had been granted in 1,851 cases—4,845 persons; 2,988 persons are known to have arrived in the United Kingdom. 125 cases—279 persons—were outstanding on the same date. Information as to how long these have been under consideration is not readily available.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to announce his decision about the level of financial support for the joint working group for refugees from Latin America.

    A decision about financial support for the current financial year will be announced shortly.

    Fire Services (Expenditure)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the letter sent by his department to all local authorities responsible for fire services, including Derbyshire county council, regarding the need for consultations before cuts in fire cover, was implemented by all local authorities.

    No circular letter has been sent to fire authorities about the procedures to be followed in seeking my approval under section 19 of the Fire Services Act 1947, as amended, for variations of the establishment schemes for their areas. It is, however, my practice before exercising my powers under the section, to ask to be informed of the outcome of the consultations which the fire authority has carried out on its proposals.

    Prison Officers (Grading)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what additional costs will arise following the Government's decision to implement the May inquiry's recommendations about pay for governor and prison officer grades.

    It is estimated that the cost will be £6·1 million in the current financial year. To meet this increased

    NUMBER OF FAMILIES THEORETICALLY SUBJECT TO "MARGINAL TAX RATES" OF 50 PER CENT. OR MORE
    Great Britain December 1977
    Range of marginal tax rates (per cent.)Number of one-parent families theoretically affectedNumber of two-parent families theoretically affectedTotal numbers of families theoretically affected
    50 but less than 75[30,000]130,000150,000
    75 but less than 100[30,000][30,000]60,000
    100 and over[—][50,000][50,000]
    Notes
    1. The estimates in the table, which are rounded to the nearest 10,000, are based on a Department of Health and Social Security analysis of incomes and other information recorded by respondents to the 1977 family expenditure survey. They are subject to statistical error; the figures in square brackets in particular are subject to considerable proportionate statistical error.
    2. Only the population living in private households is covered. Institutions etc. are not included in the samples for the family expenditure survey.
    3. Higher rate taxpayers have been excluded from the table.

    Iranian Nationals

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are the latest available figures on the number of Iran-

    expenditure the cash limit on the relevant Home Office cash block—HO1—will be raised from £307,767,000 to £313,867,000. Corresponding provision will be sought in a Winter Supplementary Estimate.

    Social Services

    Marginal Tax

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, pursuant to his reply of 23 October to the hon. Member for Birkenhead, if he will indicate the number of families subject to marginal tax rates of (a) 50 per cent. to 75 per cent., (b) 75 per cent. to 100 per cent. and (c) 100 per cent. and over into one- and two-parent families.

    The table below sets out the latest available estimates—that is, as at December 1977—of the numbers of families with children who were then theoretically subject to "marginal tax rates" of 50 per cent. and above. Estimates such as these are theoretical because they assume that all means-tested benefits are reassessed immediately on receipt of a £1 pay rise. This would not happen in practice, since benefits such as family income supplement are awarded for 52 weeks irrespective of subsequent changes of circumstances. The figures are therefore liable to mislead. The Department has never, in fact, seen an authenticated case in which a "marginal tax relief" of 100 per cent. or more has actually operated.It follows that extreme caution should be exercised in any use of these estimates.ian nationals in the United Kingdom; and how many of these are students.

    Evidence from the labour force survey taken in May 1977 suggested that there were then some 20,000 Iranian nationals in the United Kingdom. I am informed by the Department of Education and Science that in the academic year 1977–78 the number of students from Iran, including students in private institutions, was around 12,000.

    Geriatric Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many

    Area Health AuthorityAverage daily number of beds available in departments of Geriatric medicine per 1,000 population aged 65 and over
    1. Northern Regional Health Authority:
    Cleveland10·0
    Cumbria9·9
    Durham10·4
    Northumberland6·5
    Gateshead6·5
    Newcastle-Upon-Tyne7·1
    North Tyneside7·8
    South Tyneside6·3
    Sunderland9·8
    2. Yorkshire Regional Health Authority:
    Humberside9·8
    North Yorkshire9·2
    Bradford10·5
    Calderdale12·0
    Kirkless11·7
    Leeds9·2
    Wakefield12·5
    3. Trent Regional Health Authority:
    Derbyshire7·7
    Leicestershire8·1
    Lincolnshire8·9
    Nottinghamshire7·3
    Barnsley8·1
    Doncaster8·2
    Rotherham9·0
    Sheffield9·3
    4. East Anglia Regional Health Authority:
    Cambridgeshire8·9
    Norfolk6·6
    Suffolk11·5
    5. North-West Thames Regional Health Authority:
    Bedfordshire7·5
    Hertfordshire8·6
    Barnet6·0
    Brent/Harrow6·9
    Ealing/Hammersmith/Hounslow3·7
    Hillingdon6·6
    Kensington and Chelsea/Westminster7·1
    6. North-East Thames Regional Health Authority:
    Essex7·3
    Barking/Havering9·4
    Camden/Islington8·1
    City and East London8·2
    Enfield/Haringey6·4
    Redbridge/Waltham Forest10·6
    7. South-East Thames Regional Health Authority:
    East Sussex6·8
    Kent7·8
    Bexley/Greenwich8·4
    Bromley8·1
    Lambeth/Southwark/Lewisham5·7

    geriatric hospital beds there are in each area health authority in England and Wales per head of population aged over 60 years.

    Information in the terms requested is not available.The average daily number of beds available in departments of geriatric medicine per 1,000 population aged 65 and over in each area health authority in England and Wales is set out below.

    Area Health Authority

    Average daily number of beds available in departments of Geriatric medicine per 1,000 population aged 65 and over

    8. South-West Thames Regional Health Authority:
    Surrey7·7
    West Sussex4·2
    Croydon9·5
    Kingston/Richmond6·0
    Merton/Sutton/Wandsworth7·6
    9. Wessex Regional Health Authority:
    Dorset7·9
    Hampshire7·0
    Wiltshire11·8
    Isle of Wight7·7
    10. Oxford Regional Health Authority:
    Berkshire6·9
    Buckinghamshire8·8
    Northamptonshire9·2
    Oxfordshire6·7
    11. South-Western Regional Health Authority:
    Avon6·9
    Cronwall and Isles of Scilly7·1
    Devon7·5
    Gloucestershire9·0
    Somerset8·5
    12. West Midlands Regional Health Authority:
    Hereford and Worcester9·0
    Salop12·2
    Staffordshire9·2
    Warwickshire6·6
    Birmingham13·2
    Coventry10·4
    Dudley7·1
    Sandwell4·3
    Solihull1·9
    Walsall5·3
    Wolverhampton7·1
    13. Mersey Regional Health Authority:
    Cheshire10·9
    Liverpool9·2
    St. Helen's with Knowsley5·7
    Sefton12·8
    Wirral8·1
    14. North-Western Regional Health Authority:
    Lancashire6·9
    Bolton11·3
    Bury8·8
    Manchester10·6
    Oldham7·9
    Rochdale7·8
    Salford7·7
    Stockport8·0
    Tameside7·7
    Trafford5·1
    Wigan10·9
    Wales:
    Clwyd10·3
    Dyfed10·5
    Gwent8·8
    Gwynedd10·1
    Mid-Glamorgan10·8
    Powys14·7
    South Glamorgan8·0
    West Glamorgan8·0

    Mill Road Maternity Hospital, Liverpool

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many babies were delivered at Mill Road maternity hospital, Liverpool, last year; how many patients use the hospital on average each week; and if he will make additional funds available to improve waiting room facilities, so that pregnant women awaiting examination will no longer be required to sit on the floor.

    2,414 babies were delivered in 1978.Information about the number of patients who use the hospital is not available in the form requested. The average number of out-patient attendances per week during the third quarter of 1979 was 851·4 and the average daily number of occupied beds during the same quarter was 97·2 and seven special care baby cots.The allocation of funds for particular purposes is a matter for the Liverpool area health authority (teaching). But, as I stated in my letter of 25 October 1979 to the hon. Member, the authority has plans to improve the waiting area in the near future, and it is considering what other steps can be taken to improve facilities in the clinic.

    St Benedict's Hospital, Tooting

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what has been the financial expenditure in each of the last five years at St. Benedict's hospital, Tooting, SW17.

    The information is as follows:

    £ million
    1974–751·02
    1975–761·24
    1976–771·37
    1977–781·53
    1978–791·75

    Pensions And Benefits (Payment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what plans he is considering to withdraw the facilities for payment of pensions and social benefits from post offices and sub post offices; what examination he has made of the social consequences of such a change; and what discussions he has had with the Post Office about the scheme.

    A small team of officials in consultation with Sir Derek Rayner have been examining the arrangements for paying social security benefits including the frequency of payment and whether beneficiaries should be able to have payment direct into bank accounts if they wish. Any ideas for change emerging from this study will need careful consideration and consultation. My right hon. Friend will announce our conclusions on the study as soon as possible. The Government have no plans for withdrawing payments facilities from Crown post offices or sub post offices.

    Elizabeth Garrett Anderson Hospital

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress is being made on the external building works on the Elizabeth Garrett Anderson hospital.

    No external building work is currently being undertaken other than such routine maintenance as may be required. Good progress is being made on a brief for the project team which will undertake the redevelopment of the hospital.

    Rent And Rate Rebates

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people he estimates will be better off receiving supplementary benefit rather than rent and rate rebates consequent upon the removal of the electricity discount scheme; how many extra staff his Department will need in order to undertake the necessary individual calculations; and how soon he expects these calculations to be completed.

    [pursuant to her reply, 19 November 1979, c. 28]: I regret that such estimates are not available. The best available figures relate to people receiving rent rebates, rent allowances or rate rebates in 1977 whose net resources were within £1 of their basic supplementary benefit level. There were about 240,000 of these aged 75 or over and about 20,000 families with a child under five where the head of the family was not in full-time work. It is not known how many of these people would in fact have been entitled to supplementary benefit and become better off, so the figures can be regarded as no more than a broad indication of the possible size of the field.In so far as the changes lead to increased work for the Department's local offices, this will be reflected through the operation of the normal staff complementing process.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, how many people he estimates will be better off receiving supplementary benefit rather than rent and rate rebate consequent upon the elimination of the parental income scale for school meals envisaged in the Education (No. 2) Bill; and how many extra staff his Department will need to undertake the necessary individual calculations.

    [pursuant to her reply, 19 November 1979, c. 28]: I regret that such estimates are not available. In so far as the changes lead to increased work for the Department's local offices, this

    TotalUrgentNon-urgent
    Royal
    General Surgery768768
    ENT5151
    Traumatic and Orthopaedic7575
    Radiotherapy99
    Thoracic Surgery88
    Dental Surgery126126
    New Cross
    General Surgery580580
    ENT2541253
    Traumatic and Orthopaedic5213518
    Neurology1616
    Urology108108
    Gynaecology46314449
    General Medicine77
    Geriatrics16214
    Mental Illness54945
    Wolverhampton and Midland
    Ophthalmology*1,3282181,110
    Totals:4,3842474,137
    * This is a regional service with a catchment population of about one million.
    A three-tier waiting list exists; of the 218 patients shown as urgent only a small proportion are considered to be either medically or surgically urgent, and these cases are always given dates for inpatient admission. The remainder, termed "priority", are admitted within three to five months.

    Industry

    Textile Industry (Assistance)

    will be reflected through the operation of the normal staff complementing process.

    Hospital Waiting List (Wolverhampton)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of patients waiting to enter hospitals in the Wolverhampton area; and if he will list the hospitals and the operations required.

    The number of patients on in-patient waiting lists at 30 September 1979 in hospitals administered by the Wolverhampton area health authority were as follows:amount of public financial assistance given to the different sectors of the British textile industry since 1970 shown on an annual basis.

    It would involve disproportionate cost to provide a completely comprehensive reply in the form requested. However, the following information is readily available in respect of assistance under sections 7 and 8 of the Industry Act 1972, regional development grant, temporary employment subsidy, and short time working compensation.

    SECTION 7 OF THE INDUSTRY ACT 1972

    Offers of assistance made, by calendar years (£'000)

    MLH and Sector

    1972

    1973

    1974

    1975

    1976

    1977

    1978

    To 30 September 1979

    Textiles:
    411Production of Man-Made Fibres6671,4651,066617021310233
    412Spinning and Doubling6941,178988893,052332
    413Weaving2,2311909162545431,22298
    414Woollen and Worsted396571357396457600
    415Jute252081458191
    416Rope, Twine and Net16372524397
    417Hosiery and other Knitted Goods8166075405,550666892846
    418Lace1311226
    419Carpets2327984413221,750549546
    421Narrow Fabrics39769528126178
    422Made-up Textiles9818283964177448
    423Textile Finishing7492694753682331,073690
    429Other Textile Industries2339926228112419
    Clothing:
    441Weatherproof Outerwear622915613119
    442Men's and Boys' Tailored Outerwear2721346415443171688
    443Women's and Girls' Tailored Outerwear56237120353279266
    444Overalls, Men's Shirts, Underwear111118310064334669
    445Dresses, Lingerie, Infants' Wear138921061,3398654262
    446Hats, Caps and Millinery25
    449Other Dress Industries6760620031166

    SECTION 8 OF THE INDUSTRY ACT 1972

    Offers of assistance made, by calendar years (£'000)

    MLH and Sector

    1972

    1973

    1974

    1975

    1976

    1977

    1978

    To 30 September 1979

    Textiles:
    411Production of Man-Made Fibres64184
    412Spinning and Doubling73395
    413Weaving50441
    414Woollen and Worsted486,4275,4284,7895704,7022,971
    415Jute
    416Rope, Twine and Net39
    417Hosiery and other Knitted Goods56191,124404
    418Lace100100
    419Carpets24154
    421Narrow Fabrics951
    422Made-up Textiles26512
    423Textile Finishing371281
    429Other Textile Industries5
    Clothing:
    441Weatherproof Outerwear325232617
    442Men's and Boys' Tailored Outerwear6241,2745,906316
    443Women's and Girls' Tailored Outerwear506862,46261
    444Overalls, Men's Shirts, Underwear67841,94356
    445Dresses, Lingerie, Infants' Wear31107942,410146
    446Hats, Caps and Millinery325
    449Other Dress Industries45931,986162

    REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT GRANTS

    Payments at outturn prices, by financial years ended 31 March (£'000)

    1973

    1974

    1975

    1976

    1977

    1978

    1979

    Textiles1,0297,72614,53010,8048,2368,15710,887
    Clothing and Footwear6222,0193,4252,7862,9322,6903,428

    TEMPORARY EMPLOYMENT SUBSIDY

    Estimated payments, by financial years ended 31 Marchmillion)

    18 August 1975 to 31 March 1976

    1977

    1978

    1979

    Textiles0·518·951·740·5
    Clothing0·520·944·122·8

    SHORT TIME WORKING COMPENSATION

    Reimbursements approved

    15 May 1978 to 31 March 1979

    1 April 1979 to 31 October 1979

    ££
    Short Time Working Compensation under the TES Scheme:
    Textiles807,213608,709
    Clothing41,69453,025
    New Temporary Short Time Working Compensation Scheme:
    Textiles1,082,228
    Clothing161,086

    Environment

    Housing (Homeless Persons) Act

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received from London boroughs or other sources relating to the working of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1974.

    The local authority associations, including the London Boroughs Association, and the voluntary organisations concerned have been asked for their views on the operation of the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977 and associated code of guidance. I have also received representations from certain individual local authorities, including some London boroughs.

    Refuse Collection

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends to repeal the provision of the Public Health Act 1936 requiring local authorities to empty dustbins; and if he will make a statement on the future of refuse collection.

    £ million
    1978–791980–81Increase
    Warwickshire29·740·110·4
    Non-metropolitan counties2,242·83,041·2798·4
    The amounts for 1978–79 are based on the proposed second increase order for that year. The amounts for 1980–81 assume that the ratio between needs and resources element of grant will be maintained and that the proposed cash limit and main order for 1980–81 will be implemented.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the needs element of the rate support grant 1980–81 will be allocated on the same basis as for 1979–80.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the statement my right hon. Friend made on 16 November in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Streatham (Mr. Shelton).—[Vol. 973, c. 853–57.]

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when the unit costing basis for the rate support grant is likely to be implemented.

    Section 72 of the Public Health Act 1936 which empowers authorities to collect domestic refuse will be repealed when sections 12–14 of the Control of Pollution Act 1974 are implemented. Local authorities will then have a duty to collect it. But it is, and will remain, open to any local authority to contract out its collection service in whole or in part and a small number do so. There may be scope here for greater involvement of the private sector.

    Rate Support Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) further to his statement on rate support grant, by how much as a result of his increased grant to the shire counties he anticipates that Warwickshire will be better off, compared with the rate support grant settlement for 1978–79;(2) further to his statement on rate support grant, by how much as a result of his increased grant to shire counties he anticipates that they will be better off compared with the rate support settlement for 1978–79.

    We intend to develop, in consultation with the local authority associations, new methods of assessing expenditure requirements to coincide with the introduction of the new block grant system in 1981–82. At this stage I cannot say what form such methods may take.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what effect the decision outlined in his written answer on Friday 16 November relating to the rate support grant settlement will have on local authority housing revenue accounts and council rents in general.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer which my right hon. Friend gave, also on 16 November, to my hon. Friend the Member for Chelsea (Mr. Scott).—Vol. 973, c. 857.]

    Development Control System

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what portion of the costs involved in running the development control system will be recovered via charges on planning applications; and if he will make a statement on the Royal Town Planning Institute's and the Confederation of British Industry's objections to this scheme.

    A substantial proportion; but my right hon. Friend has not yet settled detailed proposals for a scheme. I have noted the views of the Royal Town Planning Institute and the Confederation of British Industry. A consultation paper will be issued in due course.

    District Council And Constituency Boundaries

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether the Government intend to make district council boundaries coterminous with the revised parliamentary constituency boundaries.

    Local authority boundaries are determined according to the needs of effective and convenient local government. On the other hand, parliamentary constituency boundaries must pay attention to the size of electorates and it is not always possible to reconcile this with the needs of local government.

    "Marjohn" Site

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has yet decided to approve the sale of the "Marjohn" site to Chelsea college on the basis originally agreed with the Greater London Council.

    My right hon. Friend is considering the matter and hopes to announce his decision shortly.

    Water Supplies (Conservation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make a statement on his policy regarding the conservation of water supplies in order to avoid building reservoirs or dams in areas of high environmental quality.

    Conservation of water supplies is a matter of prime importance to both the Department and the water industry. Water authorities are well aware of the need to ensure that the best use is made of existing resources before expenditure is incurred on developing new ones. Measures aimed at promoting conservation are given high priority and typical examples include the reduction of leakage from water distribution systems and provisions in water byelaws requiring the installation of water saving devices such as dual-flush WC cisterns.

    Albert Colliery, Wigan

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment in view of the year that has elapsed since the inquiry into the extension of opencast coal at the Albert colliery site in Hindley Green, Wigan, if he will now give his decision whether to allow opencast coal mining to proceed or not.

    The decision on the appeal by the National Coal Board relating to the continued use of the Albert opencast coal disposal point was issued on 26 November. The decision grants permission for retention of the disposal point for five years.

    Liverpool Urban Development Corporation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has decided on an appointment for the position of chairman of the Liverpool Urban Development Corporation.

    Rating (Revaluation)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to repeal section 21 of the Local Government Act 1974, in view of the decision to cancel the rating revaluation.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will consider a rating revaluation on non-domestic property.

    My right hon. Friend hopes to bring forward legislation in the near future that will contain an enabling power for the Secretary of State to commission a revaluation of non-domestic property if that seems desirable at some stage in the future. We do not, however, have any immediate plans for such a revaluation.

    Local Authority Housing

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what effect the increase in minimum lending rate will have on local authority housing revenue accounts and council house rents in general.

    The effect of the increased minimum lending rate on the borrowing costs which individual local authorities incur in repaying outstanding housing debt will depend on the duration of the new minimum lending rate. In so far as any increases in borrowing costs fall on local housing authorities, it is for them to decide whether they should be met through rents and/or rates.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if, bearing in mind the new mortgage interest rates, he will list the mortgage repayments on the purchase of a post-war two-bedroom, three-bedroom and four-bedroom council house, at the discounts of 50 per cent., 40 per cent., 30 per cent. and 20 per cent. on current valuations.

    Information about the value of different sizes of council house is not available. Assuming the average sale price before discount of a council dwelling at £11,550 and a 100 per cent. 25 year mortgage at a rate of 15 per cent., the figures for the first year, net of tax relief at 30 per cent., are:

    £
    20 per cent. discount1,014
    30 per cent. discount887
    40 per cent. discount760
    50 per cent. discount634
    In so far as house purchasers require mortgages of less than 100 per cent. their repayments would be below the figure quoted.

    Housing (Multiple Occupation) And Common Lodging Houses

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he intends to simplify the procedures avail- able to local authorities towards houses in multiple occupation which, in their opinion, are in poor management, by enabling them to apply the Housing (Management of Houses in Multiple Occupation) Regulations without the prior making of a management order; and if he will make a statement.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will list, for each of the past five years, the number of houses in multiple occupation inspected in their areas by each of the following local authorities: the 32 London boroughs and district councils in each of the following metropolitan counties: West Midlands, Greater Manchester, Merseyside, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and Tyne and Wear;(2) if he will list the number of common lodging houses registered under part IX of the Public Health Act 1936, together with their addresses, in each of the following local authorities: the 32 London boroughs and district councils in each of the following metropolitan counties: West Midlands, Greater Manchester, Merseyside, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and Tyne and Wear;(3) if he will list (

    a) the number of control orders made under the Housing Act 1964 on houses in multiple occupation for each year since 1965 and ( b) the number of compulsory purchase orders made, following a control order, on houses in multiple occupation under the Housing Act 1969 for each year since 1970, in each of the following local authorities: the 32 London boroughs and district councils in each of the following metropolitan counties: West Midlands. Greater Manchester, Merseyside, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and Tyne and Wear.

    The Department do not keep the figures requested and they could be collected only at disproportionate cost.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he last issued guidance to local authorities on the registration of common lodging houses in their areas under part IX of the Public Health Act 1936; and what advice he gives to authorities on a day-to-day basis concerning the application of this Act as compared with authorities' powers towards houses in multiple occupation under the Housing Acts 1957–69.

    Local authorities are under a duty to register common lodging houses. Guidance on registration as such would be inappropriate, but there are model byelaws for the regulation of such houses. However, the Department's recent advice to local authorities which inquire about making byelaws is that the legislation on houses in multiple occupation set out in the Housing Acts of 1957, 1961, 1964 and 1969 provides a more satisfactory framework.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he intends to issue new standards relating to houses in multiple occupation under section 13 of the Housing Act 1961 to take account of the standards applicable to multiple occupied lodging houses and hostels following the recent court decisions in the cases of Simmons v. Pizzey (1977) and Silbers v. the London borough of Southwark (1977).

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the local authorities in England which have confirmed registration schemes for houses in multiple occupation in their areas, under the following heads (a) informatory schemes under section 22 of the Housing Act 1961, (b) regulatory schemes under section 64 of the Housing Act 1969 and (c) combined schemes under the same Act; and what proportion of local authorities operating all three schemes this represents.

    The information is as follows:

  • (a) Informatory schemes under section 22 of the Housing Act 1962 have been confirmed in respect of the following authorities—names as at time of confirmation: Middlesbrough, Croydon, Stretford, Gloucester, Liverpool, Leeds, Dorking and Horley, Crawley.
  • (b) The only authority with a regulatory scheme under section 64 of the Housing Act 1969 is Exeter.
  • (c) Combined schemes under section 64 of the Housing Act 1969 have been confirmed in respect of the following authorities—names as at time of confirmation:
    • London: Redbridge, Lewisham, Islington, Brent, Southwark, Enfield, Camden, Newham, Greenwich, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, Lambeth.
    • Elsewhere: Newcastle under Lyme, Lancaster, Wycombe, South Tyneside, Newcastle upon Tyne, Huddersfield, Doncaster, Rotherham, Manchester, Norwich, West Bromwich, Leicester, Walsall, Eccles, Oldham, Sheffield, New Windsor.
    These schemes relate to 38 housing authorities out of a total of 364.

    Kielder Reservoir

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what studies have been undertaken into the installation costs and potential capacities of electricity generating turbines in the dams of the Kielder reservoir, Northumberland.

    The reliable output of hydroelectric power generation plant at the main Kielder dam would be about 6 MW, and provision has been made in the body of the dam for the basic substructure necessary to accommodate a generating station which might be constructed in future.A full appraisal was carried out earlier this year indicating that developing such an installation could provide an economic return on the investment. Although no decision has yet been made the project is still under discussion between Government Departments and the water authority and between the latter and the North-Eastern Electricity Board.

    Liverpool

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he will meet a deputation from the Liverpool city council, and hon. Members for Liverpool constituencies, regarding the financial situation in Liverpool, as requested by the hon. Member for Liverpool, Walton, and the Liverpool city council.

    On a date convenient to the hon. Member and his constituents and myself.

    Transport

    Driving Tests

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the current waiting period that a driving test applicant can expect to lapse between the date when he applies for a test and the date when the test is actually held (a) in the Oldham area, (b) in Greater Manchester and (c) in the North-West as a whole; and how these results compare with those for the rest of England and Wales.

    There is no driving test centre at Oldham. Waiting times for an "L" test at Bury, Rochdale and Hyde are 29, 27 and 25 weeks respectively. The average waiting time in Greater Manchester and the North-Western traffic area as a whole is about 26 weeks, and in England and Wales about 29 weeks. We are recruiting new examiners as quickly as we can.

    asked the Secretary of State for Transport what is the current waiting period that a driving test applicant can expect to lapse bewteen the date when he applies for a driving test and the date when the test is actually held (a) in the Huddersfield area, (b) in West Yorkshire and (c) in Yorkshire as a whole; and how these results compare with those for the rest of England and Wales.

    The waiting time for an "L" driving test in Huddersfield and in the West Yorkshire area is 22 weeks. In the Yorkshire traffic area the average is 24 weeks and in England and Wales as a whole about 29 weeks. We need new examiners to reduce waiting times and we are recruiting as quickly as we can.

    Road Widening

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the current status of the £¼ million scheme to widen the A27 between Portsmouth and Porchester, which is bypassed by the construction of the M27; and whether it is his policy to widen A-grade roads that have been duplicated by M-grade roads.

    This part of the A27 has been detrunked. Hampshire county council is putting forward the scheme referred to. Where trunk roads are duplicated by motorways, we seek to detrunk them by agreement with the local highway authority as in this case. Thereafter, it is for the highway authority to decide whether improvements are necessary in the light of local circumstances.

    Trunk Road And Motorway Schemes

    asked the Minister of Transport which trunk road and motor way schemes, completed in 1973–74, 1974–75, 1975–76, 1976–77 and 1977–78, had construction costs exceeding the contract price; and what were the additional costs of those schemes affected.

    Because of the uncertainties relating to civil engineering work, tenders are invited on the basis of estimated quantities. The conditions of contract provide for payment on the basis of actual quantities and for additional payments for extra or varied work. In addition, larger contracts contain provisions to take account of inflation.Thus the final price can always be expected to exceed the tender price, and normally has done so.

    Bypasses

    asked the Minister of Transport (1) if a start on the A59 Bickerstaff-Bretherton bypass will go ahead on the date given by the previous Administration; and, if not, when work will start;(2) if the start of the Ormskirk bypass will go ahead on the date given by the previous Administration; and, if not, when work will start.

    We are reviewing the timing of schemes in the trunk road programme as part of our commitment to contain public expenditure. Revised proposals will be published in a White Paper in the New Year and it will then be possible to give an indication of possible starting dates for trunk road projects.

    Unadopted Roads

    asked the Minister of Transport how many unadopted roads there are in the United Kingdom; and if he will consider making funds available for local authorities to mount joint schemes with residents wishing their roads to be adopted.

    The Government do not have these figures. The local authorities in England, Wales and Scotland have to decide whether to contribute to making up private streets for adoption in determining their spending priorities within the total funds available to them for transport. There are no extra funds available for this purpose.

    Civil Service

    Manpower Reductions (Acas Code Of Practice)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will abide by the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service's code of practice on disclosure of information in his negotiations with the Civil Service staff unions on manpower reductions.

    The Civil Service trade unions have been assured that they will be fully consulted about the implementation of the Government's decision on manpower reductions.

    Freedom Of Information

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether, in view of the need for improving Great Britain's security and the honesty of its service, he will introduce a British freedom of information Bill.

    No. As I told the hon. Member for Lewisham, West (Mr. Price) on 20 June [Vol. 968, c. 1315], the Government share the view of their predecessors that legislation to provide a public right of access would not be appropriate.

    National Finance

    Interest Rates

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give instructions to collectors of taxes to act cautiously in dealing with firms who may be in arrears with PAYE and who are now facing increasing problems with the further rise in interest rates.

    Collectors of taxes can normally make suitable arrangements to meet cases of genuine temporary difficulty. There can be no question of any general relaxation of the obligation on employers to pay over promptly tax which they have deducted under PAYE arrangements.

    15 Per Cent Treasury Stock

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he has asked the Bank of England to make special arrangements to permit the participation of small investors in the issue of £800 million of 15 per cent. Treasury stock on 22 November.

    No special arrangements were required. The stock was offered to the public and all investors had the opportunity to submit tenders. Prospectuses and tender forms were distributed widely throughout the country and were advertised in the national and regional press.

    Value Added Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what income would be lost per annum if tempered and laminated glass other than that used for motor vehicles were zero-rated for value added tax.

    I am afraid that this information is not available because persons registered for VAT are not required to make returns of the tax charged on particular goods and services.

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, pursuant to the answer given by the Minister of State, Treasury, to the hon. Member for Reigate (Mr. Gardiner) on 16 November 1979, what is the timetable for the decision regarding the possible withdrawal of the optional arrangements under which repayment traders can obtain monthly value added tax repayments from Her Majesty's Customs and Excise; and whether he intends to consult representatives of the construction industry and other industries that would be affected by such a change.

    [pursuant to his reply, 22 November 1979, c. 332]: No decision has been taken to withdraw monthly VAT repayment schemes. If such an option is put forward, the representative bodies of the industries affected will be consulted at an early stage.

    Income Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of the income of a married man, with two children, on average earnings is taken by income tax; and what are the equivalent figures for the other EEC countries, the USA and Japan.

    Information on average earnings in the other EEC countries,

    Average production worker's wage in £ sterlingIncome tax in £ sterlingPercentage of income paid in income tax
    United Kingdom5,16796818·7
    Belgium6,68080712·1
    France5,4171031·9
    Germany8,40595611·4
    Ireland5,09073014·3
    Italy4,13641610·1
    Netherlands7,9051,10113·9
    USA6,5275127·8
    Japan6,9612203·2
    Notes
    1. Figures for the other EEC countries, the USA and Japan and United Kingdom Treasury estimates of APW wage levels as at 1 October 1979, based on OECD figures for 1978 earnings of an average production worker—estimates for Denmark and Luxembourg are not available. The United Kingdom figure is an estimate of the average wage of a male manual worker in manufacturing industry for September 1979, but this figure may be abnormally low because of the effect of the engineering dispute.
    2. Currency conversions have been made at the exchange rates prevailing on 19 November 1979. The exchange rates between the United Kingdom and overseas countries may not fully reflect differences in consumer's purchasing power between the United Kingdom and those countries.
    3. The tax figure is income tax only and does not include Social Security contributions. In computing tax liabilities, account has been taken of personal allowances and reliefs, employment income reliefs, minimum deductions for expenses, allowances for social security contributions and any other flat rate reliefs against employment income.
    4. All income is assumed to be employment income of the husband.
    5. All figures relate to the tax year 1979 or 1979–80, except for France—1978—whose income tax rates are fixed in arrear.
    6. The United Kingdom completed its move from child tax allowances to child benefits with effect from 6 April 1979. Income from child benefits and analogous payment overseas has not been taken into account in any of these calculations.

    Family Incomes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will circulate a table in the Official Report showing (a) the value of the income tax concessions to each tax group in the last Budget in respect of a family of four with two children of school age and an average mortgage for a family in the income group concerned, (b) the value of the charges imposed by the Government on such families directly and indirectly since taking office, (c) the anticipated increase in rates and charges for school travel, etc., by local authorities and (d) the increase in mortgage payments net of tax relief on the assumption that mortgage interest rates are raised to 15 per cent.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answers I gave on Wednesday 21 November 1979 to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Ardwick (Mr. Kaufman), to two similar questions.—[Vol. 974, c. 226–8].

    the USA and Japan is not available. A comparison can, however, be made for all the countries, except Denmark and Luxembourg, on the basis of the income of an average production worker. This is given in the table below:

    Tax Evasion

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what measures he proposes to take to stop the evasion of capital gains tax and capital transfer tax on capital exported from the United Kingdom as a result of the removal of exchange controls.

    The hon. Member's question is based on an assumption. I shall, however, be keeping the matter under careful review in conjunction with the review we have already said we are undertaking into the enforcement powers of the Inland Revenue.

    Minimum Lending Rate

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the increases in profits likely to accrue to the financial sector as a result of the increase in minimum lending rate in the current year; and whether he will require the institutions concerned to bring forward the payment of next year's tax and so help reduce the public sector borrowing requirement.

    No such estimate is available. There are many other considerations involved in decisions on taxation.

    Productivity

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, further to his answer of 13 November concerning increasing productivity, he will circulate in the Official Report a table comparing the annual increase in productivity in manufacturing between 1952 and 1978 with the increase in wage costs per unit of output.

    The information requested is shown in the table below:

    UNITED KINGDOM MANUFACTURING INDUSTRIES
    Percentage change on previous year
    Volume of output per person employedWages and salaries per unit of output
    (1)(2)
    1952-4·3+13·9
    1953+6·2+0·3
    1954+2·9+2·1
    1955+3·7+4·1
    1956-0·9+8·2
    1957+2·6+3·9
    1958+0·7+4·1
    1959-5·5-0·8
    1960+4·4+0·8
    1961-0·9+6·4
    1962+0·9+2·4
    1963+5·0-1·0
    1964+7·5-0·3
    1965+1·6+5·7
    1966+1·7+4·4
    1967+3·5
    1968+7·8+0·2
    1969+2·4+6·4
    1970+0·7+12·4
    1971+2·8+9·4
    1972+6·1+4·3
    1973+7·6+5·5
    1974-1·7+23·5
    1975-1·8+32·3
    1976+4·6+13·8
    1977+0·5+10·4
    1978+1·3+13·1

    Sources:

    Central Statistical Office.

    Department of Employment.

    Public Sector Borrowing Requirement

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether his Department has calculated what the public sector borrowing requirement would be in a state of full employment; what is the estimated amount; and how this is broken down between central Government, the local authorities and the nationalised industries.

    No. The forecasts published on 22 November suggested that an extra 2 per cent. on GDP in 1980 would be likely to reduce the PSBR in 1980–81 by at least half per cent. of GDP.

    Money Supply

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will circulate in the Official Report a table showing for each year since 1970 and 1979 to date (a) the amount of money borrowed for house purchase, (b) the amount of other consumer credit, (c) bank advances to manufacturing industry and (d) bank advances to, respectively, the engineering, textile and chemical industries, together with in each case the percentage increase in each period.

    Information is available in the current issue and earlier issues of Financial Statistics. The respective prime sources in the current issue—October 1979—are as follows:

  • (a) Supplementary Table B
  • (b) Tables 10.2 and 10.3
  • (c) and (d) Tables 6.17 to 6.19
  • North Sea Oil And Gas (Revenue)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will circulate a table in the Official Report comparing the latest forecast for capital and current account payments for North Sea oil and gas for the current financial year and for 1980–81, with the forecast made at the time of the June Budget or before that date.

    Forecasts for the direct contribution of North Sea oil and gas to the balance of payments were published in the Treasury's economic progress reports in August 1979 and in October 1978. The forecasts for 1979 and 1980 were as follows:

    £ billion 1978 prices
    19791980
    Current Account
    October 1978*5·06·3
    August 19797·26·8
    Capital Account
    October 1978*1·00·4
    August 19791·00·5
    * Revalued to 1978 prices.

    World Trade

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will circulate in the Official Report a table showing for the period since 1963 the statistical correlation between, respectively, the United Kingdom share of world trade in manufactures and the relative volume of exports and imports of manufactures, and each of the following indices: relative export prices for manufactures, the terms of trade for manufactures, the index of relative normal unit labour costs, relative wholesale prices, export profitability and import price competitiveness.

    No. The number of possible correlations, allowing for time

    UNITED KINGDOM
    Percentage change on previous year
    Whole economy other than extraction of petroleum and natural gas and manufacturing industriesManufacturing industries
    OutputOutput per persons employedOutputOutput per persons employed
    (1)(2)(3)(4)
    1971+2·6+3·6-1·1+2·8
    1972+3·4+0·7+2·5+6·1
    1973+4·5+1·6+8·8+7·6
    1974-1·6-1·9-1·2-1·7
    1975+0·2-0·9-7·0-1·8
    1976+1·5+0·8+2·1+4·6
    1977+1·4+1·4+1·6+0·5
    1978+3·0+2·3+0·5+1·3
    Column (1) Derived from output-based measure of gross domestic product (GDP(0)) excluding activities classified to exploration for, and extraction of, mineral oil, natural gas and natural gas condensates on land and offshore together with manufacturing industries.
    Column (2) Derived from column (1)—representing output of non-manufacturing sectors, other than oil and gas—divided by the total employed labour force in that sector.
    Column (3) Derived from the index of industrial production for manufacturing industries adjusted to allow for the use of delivery rather than production indicators in certain industries.
    Column (4) Derived from regularly published estimates of output per person employed in the manufacturing industries.
    Sources:
    Central Statistical Office.
    Department of Employment.

    Betting Duty

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the yield to the Revenue if betting duties were doubled.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Melton (Mr. Latham) on 20 November. [Vol. 974, c. 161–63.]

    Currency Reserves

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will publish an estimate of the funds moved into Great lags, is very large; and correlation analysis is not a suitable tool in this context.

    Gross Domestic Product

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, further to his answer of 13 November concerning the annual increase in gross domestic product, he will circulate in the Official Report a table showing the increase in output and in output per person employed (a) in the whole economy less both manufacturing and the extraction of petroleum and natural gas and (b) in manufacturing.

    Such information as is available is shown in the table below:Britain by the Organisation of Oil Producing and Exporting Countries and the funds switched out of Great Britain, by international companies with headquarters in Great Britain, in the week commencing 19 November.

    Credit

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will circulate in the Official Report a table showing the estimated growth for each year since 1970, in terms of cash and as a percentage, of the various types of consumer and industrial credit, including leasing.

    Information is published in Financial Statistics in tables derived from the sector financial accounts. The most appropriate references are tables 9.2, 10.2 and 10.3 in the October 1979 issue. Assets purchased by financial companies for leasing to industrial and commercial companies are classified in the sector accounts as investment in fixed assets by financial companies. The available information on sectors using leased assets is presented on page 134 of National Income and Expenditure: 1979 Edition.

    Works Of Art

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, bearing in mind paragraphs 59 and 60 of the third report of the Expenditure Committee—Environment Sub-Committee—of Session 1977–78, he proposes to eliminate any ruling which in certain circumstances would penalise financially national museums and galleries in respect of works allocated to them in satisfaction of capital transfer tax.

    The recommendations of the Expenditure Committee are under consideration. I have noted the hon. Member's support for them.

    "Capital Taxation And The National Heritage"

    asked the Chancellor of Exchequer whether, when drafting the revised Treasury memorandum entitled "Capital Taxation and the National Heritage" as announced by him for issue in 1980 in his written answer to the hon. Member for Warley, East Official Report, 7 November, column 182, account will be taken of paragraph 51 of the third report of the Expenditure Committee—Environment sub-Committee—of Session 1977–78, which recommended the re-insertion after paragraph 46 in that memorandum of the provision which is still in force relating to conditional offers in satisfaction of tax and which appeared in the second half of paragraph 15 of the previous Treasury memorandum of October 1973; and whether the mention in that paragraph 15 of the National Art Collections Fund and the Friends of the National Libraries will be similarly re-inserted.

    In reviewing the memorandum we shall naturally be taking into account the Expenditure Committee's recommendations and also any other representations which are made to us.

    Tax Avoidance Schemes

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will set up an inquiry into the use of companies limited by guarantee and without share capital in tax avoidance schemes; and if he will make a statement.

    Exchange Rate

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on his present policy for the exchange rate.

    [pursuant to his reply, 23 November 1979, c. 405]: I refer the right hon. Gentleman to the answer I gave on 19 July to my hon. Friend the Member for Melton (Mr. Latham) and the hon. Member for Oldham, West (Mr. Meacher).—[Vol, 970, c. 795.]

    Imports And Exports (International Comparisons)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will circulate in the Official Report for each of the principal exporting countries, Canada and Sweden a table showing the growth in the volume of imports and exports of manufacturers since the Smithsonian agreement in each quarter, in the form of an index or otherwise and based on (a) trade in 1970 and (b) trade in 1975.

    I have been asked to reply.Provision of available information of this kind, particularly for two different base periods, could be undertaken only at disproportionate cost. Annual percentage changes of the volume of exports and imports of manufactures since 1971 as are readily available, mainly from current statistics are given in the following table.

    VOLUME OF TRADE IN MANUFACTURES*

    Percentage changes on previous year

    United Kingdom

    Federal Republic of Germany

    France‡ §

    United States of America

    Japan

    Italy‡ §

    Canada‡ §

    Sweden‡ §

    1970 base

    1975 base

    1970 base

    EXPORTS OF MANUFACTURES
    1971+10+10+6+3+1+21+3+5+5
    1972+2+1½+9+19+9+7½+20+8+4
    1973+14+14+16+10+23+5+7+12+16
    1974+5+5+12+16+17+18+7+1+7
    1975-3-3½-11-4-4+2½+5-5-7
    1976+7½+9+14+9+4+23+15+14+2
    1977+8+8½+4+7-1+9½+8+11
    1978n.a.+2+4+5+7+13+10+5
    IMPORTS OF MANUFACTURES
    1971+10+10+13+11-5
    1972+19+18+13+15+17
    1973+22+21+8+4+54
    1974+4½+5½-2+7½
    1975-7-6½+4-14-25
    1976+8½+9½+19+25+14
    1977+11+10+8½+9+1½
    1978n.a.+13+7½+19+22

    * SITC Sections 5 to 8. Except where stated, the weighting base of the statistics is not entirely certain.

    † The main reasons for the differences between the 1975-based and 1970-based series are different weighting, classification changes and methodological improvements. The 1970-based series was not compiled after 1977.
    ‡ Based on indices rounded to nearest whole number; changes, therefore, also rounded to nearest whole number.
    § Import figures for France, Italy, Canada and Sweden are not readily available.
    n.a.=Not available.

    Sources: United Kingdom—Department of Trade.

    Germany—Derived from Statistisches Bundesampt sources.
    Japan—Summary Report Trade of Japan—Japan Tariff Association.
    United States of America (imports)—OECD.
    United States of America (exports) and other countries—United Nations Monthly Bulletin and Statistical Yearbook.

    Nationalised Industries

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, pursuant to his answer of 15 November, what particular economic developments he was referring to in his assessment of their impact on nationalised industries' shortfall.

    [pursuant to his reply, 26 November 1979]: The figures for nationalised industries' borrowing during the current year, shown in Cmnd. 7746, reflect trends in their finances during recent months, and in particular take account of the impact on the finances of the Post Office of the interruption in telephone billing earlier this year. For 1980–81, as the forecast published on 22 November indicated, prospects for the level of economic activity in this country now appear somewhat less favourable than expected when nationalised industries were formulating their plans for that period. In view of the likely impact of lower GDP on the industries' internal resources, the Government thought it prudent to make a smaller allowance for shortfall than the experience of recent years might have suggested.

    National Economy

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) whether the Government have now decided to set up a national economic forum;(2) if, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Islington Central,

    Official Report, 25 July, column 295, he will list the possible ways to achieve more open and informed discussion of economic trends and objectives which are under consideration.

    [pursuant to his reply, 26 November 1979]: The Government wish to promote a more open and informed discussion of economic matters by all available means. These include Parliament and Select Committees, the National Economic Development Council and its committees, as indicated by my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on 13 November—[Vol. 973, c. 1149]—and the contacts my colleagues and I have with a wide range of individuals and organisations.

    Scotland

    Local Authority Land

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what advice he has given local authorities regarding the outright sale, or leasing, of land, under their ownership, which has been requested for industrial development; and if he will make a statement.

    Authorities have been notified, in Scottish Development Department Circular 29/1979, that a general consent was granted under section 74A of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 removing the former restrictions on disposal of land, including industrial land.

    Industrial Incentives

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the reasons for not allowing the same level of grants and incentives to non-manufacturing firms as those enjoyed by manufacturing firms wishing to set up in Glasgow's east end.

    Successive Governments have taken the view that, in general, service industries, unlike manufacturing industry, are set up in a particular area in response to local demand, and assistance has therefore been concentrated on attracting manufacturing industry. Where, exceptionally, service industries are mobile and serving a national market they can qualify for incentives on broadly the same basis as for manufacturing industry.

    Council Houses (Sale)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report a table on the sale of public sector houses, as provided in his reply to the hon. Member for Edinburgh, Central on 6 November, disaggregated by local authorities, new town development corporations, and the Scottish Special Housing Association.

    The table following shows the latest available information in the form requested:—

    PUBLIC SECTOR HOUSE SALES 1979
    TypeSource of loan finance
    SectorQuarter yearTotal salesCottagesLow rise flatsMaisonettesNot knownLA/NT loanBuilding societyOtherNot known
    Local authority1949494
    218924141511356165
    New towns1136136136
    29581104615227
    SSHA1999
    2111

    Community Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list the cost, the total number of employees and the number of registered teachers among these employees, involved in community education in each of the regions of Scotland; and how many of the registered teachers work within a day school.

    This information is not available centrally and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

    Bridge Tolls

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the income received from tolls against operating costs of the Forth, Tay and Erskine Bridges.

    The information for the Erskine bridge, which is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend, is given below for 1977–78, the latest year for which published accounts are available.

    Income from tolls£524,666
    Operating Costs£416,000
    Operating costs include the costs of collection, administration and maintenance but not such things as amortisation of capital or interest charges.In respect of the Forth and Tay bridges, I refer the hon. Member to the respective joint boards.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the outstanding debts on the Forth, Tay and Erskine Bridges; and when it is estimated that these will be repaid.

    The latest available figures showing the position at 31 March 1978 are as follows:

    Forth£17,621,775
    Tay£6,366,379
    Erskine£18,436,516
    The trend of receipts and costs continues to indicate that the debt plus capitalised interest on the Forth bridge is unlikely ever to be repaid if tolls remain at their existing levels. Revenue on the Tay bridge has so far been broadly sufficient to meet all costs including interest and debt repayment, but this cannot be guaranteed at present toll levels. It has long been recognised that a level

    of tolls on the Erskine bridge sufficient to repay the whole cost with interest would cause traffic to divert, and that the object should be to seek the maximum revenue. In the light of the Government's announcement on 27 July of their policy that responsible authorities will be expected to keep their toll charges under regular review and to raise them as necessary—[Vol. 971, c.

    640–41].—I am reviewing the position at Erskine and have asked the respective joint boards to consider what steps might be taken to ensure that toll revenue will cover the repayment of the capital debt together with interest and maintenance costs. I hope to meet the joint boards shortly to discuss this with them.

    Dundee Sheriff Court

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many applications were made, and how many were refused, for legal aid in each of the past two years at Dundee Sheriff Court.

    I regret that this information is not available in the exact form requested. The figures for the two most recent years for which statistics are to hand are:

    (a) Civil legal aid*
    Applications receivedApplications refused
    1979–7733347
    1977–7849251
    * The figures for civil legal aid are for the Dundee district and include Arbroath and Forfar Sheriff Courts.
    (b) Criminal legal aid
    Applications receivedApplications refused
    1976–77779129
    1977–78737183

    Approved Products (Farmers And Growers)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give an estimate of how many farmers in Scotland are in possession of the 1979 edition of "Approved Products for Farmers and Growers" published by the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food; and what proportion of the total number of farmers this represents.

    So far some 12,000 copies of this publication have been sold in the United Kingdom. No realistic estimates are available concerning the proportion reaching individual farmers. However, the matter is one on which the Government and the various industrial organisations concerned are at present considering the case for joint studies, as lately recommended by the Royal Commission on environmental pollution.

    £m

    Change

    New Cash Limit

    DAFS 1+0·938·9
    (Agricultural services and fisheries support)
    SED 1+0·960·4
    (Education, libraries and arts)
    SHHD 1+8·8822·5
    (Health)
    Changes in the rate support grant cash limit SO 2 were intimated in my reply on 19 November to my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen, South. (Mr. Sprout).—[Vol. 974, c. 37.]

    Trade

    Comecon Countries (Treaties)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what proposals he has for renewing the trade treaties with COMECON countries; and particularly what are his proposals in respect of renewals for textiles, footwear and paper.

    The conclusion or renewal of trading agreements or treaties concerning trade with the CMEA countries is a matter for the European Economic Community acting together under the common commercial policy. Existing restrictions on imports of textiles and footwear from CMEA countries are expected to continue during 1980. There are no quantitative restrictions on the imports of paper.

    Tourism

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list the Government subsidies given to bodies concerned with or for the purpose of encouraging tourism.

    My Department provides annual grants-in-aid to the British Tourist Authority and the English Tourist Board, which also receives funds for tourist project assistance under section 4 of the Development of Tourism Act 1969. The amounts are shown in class IV, Vote 4 of the Supply Estimates. The ETB uses part

    Cash Limits

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether any changes have been made to cash limits for 1979–80, which are within his responsibility since the White Paper on revised cash limits, Cmnd. 7604, was published in June.

    The list of changes to cash limits within my responsibility is as follows:of its grant to help finance the 12 regional tourist boards in England.The Scottish and Wales Tourist Boards are the responsibilities of my right hon. Friends the respective Secretaries of State. They are funded in a similar way to the English Board—the amounts are shown in class IV, Votes 5 and 6 of the Supply Estimates. From its grant the WTB assists the three regional tourism councils in Wales; there are no comparable regional organisations in Scotland.Government assistance given by other Departments to various bodies indirectly encourages tourism.

    Bankruptcies

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many company formations and company bankruptcies there were in Dundee and Scotland last year.

    In 1978 the number of company liquidations—compulsory plus creditors' voluntary—in Scotland was 274. The number of new companies registered was 2,955, but this gives no indication of the number which started trading. No separate figures are available for Dundee.

    Companies Registration

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many companies, limited by guarantee and without share capital, are registered at Companies House.

    Precise information could not be obtained without disproportionate cost. Estimates suggest that there are between 6,000 and 7,000 companies in this category out of a total of more than 676,000 companies on the active register.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade on what dates St. George's Elizabethan Theatre Ltd. and Blessingwell Ltd. were registered at Companies House; and if he will list the original and current directors.

    St. George's Elizabethan Theatre Ltd. was incorporated on 18 April 1976 in the name of Elizabethan Theatre Ensemble Ltd. The name was changed on 10 February 1970. The first directors were: A. G. H. Murcell, R. F. Duncan, D. A. Kelsey, G. Flint-Shipman.

    Location1 October 19771 October 19781 October 1979
    London252424
    Great Yarmouth555
    Southampton181717
    Plymouth577
    Falmouth111
    Cardiff8109
    Bristol222
    Swansea111
    Milford Haven222
    Liverpool161617
    Fleetwood111
    Belfast777
    Glasgow212018
    Greenock455
    Aberdeen111113
    Buckie111
    Fraserburgh111
    Leith577
    Newcastle232116
    Sunderland223
    Middlesbrough544
    Hull131211
    Grimsby444
    Total181181176
    Headquarters969398
    GRAND TOTAL277274274

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) how many marine superintendents are currently employed by his Department; and in which ports they are employed for each of the years since 1972;(2) how many shipping masters are employed by his Department; and what

    The present directors are: W. A. C. Halliwell, N. E. Bruce-Watt.

    Blessingwell Ltd. was incorporated on 5 December 1975. The first directors were: W. A. C. Halliwell, Susan M. Halliwell. They are also the present directors.

    Safety At Sea

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many marine surveyors are employed in his Department; in which part of the United Kingdom they are situated; and how many are employed at the central office in London for the years 1977 and 1978.

    The number of marine surveyors employed in my Department on 1 October 1977, 1978 and 1979 and their location is as follows:the totals have been, broken down into districts, since 1972.

    The number of marine superintendents, including senior and district superintendents, employed in my Department for each year since 1972 is as follows:

    1 October 19721 October 19731 October 19741 October 19751 October 19761 October 19771 October 19781 October 1979
    Southampton97666455
    Plymouth11222222
    Avonmouth42333322
    Cardiff22322222
    Swansea22222222
    South Shields73444332
    Hull43333322
    Middlesborough23333333
    Liverpool137656543
    Belfast22222222
    Glasgow53333333
    Aberdeen22233333
    London125555555
    Tilbury74333332
    Ipswich11222222
    Falmouth22111111
    Dover11111111
    Milford Haven1111111
    Leith11111111
    Grimsby11111111
    Manchester211
    Total8154555354504844
    The total of 44 marine superintendents in post on 1 October 1979 includes three district superintendents located in London, Southampton and Hull.

    The term "shipping master" is an earlier title, still used on some occasions, for staff now known as marine superintendents.

    Textiles And Clothing

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will circulate in the Official Report a table showing the value

    UNITED KINGDOM TRADE IN TEXTILES1 (£ million)
    Imports (c.i.f)Exports (f.o.b)
    EEC(6)Rest of WorldEEC(6)Rest of World
    197075·4199·271·4395·1
    197191·1255·370·7365·9
    1972106·1294·488·7374·0
    1973156·3401·2120·1588·0
    1974216·5535·5152·1740·7
    1975251·8482·5176·5655·6
    1976342·3636·5278·7816·2
    1977457·5744·0359·11,001·1
    1978658·4882·1389·91,000·2
    January-August 1979501·1697·6317·7676·4
    UNITED KINGDOM TRADE IN TEXTILE CLOTHING2 (£ million)
    Imports (c.i.f)Exports (f.o.b)
    EEC(6)Rest of WorldEEC(6)Rest of World
    197012·6108·518·486·2
    197115·5151·817·992·1
    197222·0183·422·1100·9
    197333·3274·830·0124·1
    197444·6331·737·6156·4
    197568·2404·050·6175·3
    1976100·9538·392·7264·5
    1977138·7567·4144·3390·8
    1978188·9658·3181·5422·9
    January-August 1979153·6555·9128·6292·0
    Source:
    United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics ((1) SITC (Rev 2) Division 65 plus Groups 266 and 267 and Item 847·11; (2) Division 84 less Group 848 and Item 847·11; and broadly equivalent items under SITC (Rev 1)).
    Notes:
    (a) Owing to changes in the classification of the trade statistics, the figures for 1978 and 1979 are not absolutely equivalent to those for earlier years but the differences are negligible.
    (b) To provide information in terms of volume as well as value would entail undue cost.

    Civil Aviation Authority

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will specify the consultations that he undertook with the Civil Aviation Authority and the relevant trade unions, respectively, giving dates of any such meetings, concerning his proposal to terminate controls over the conditions pertaining to the employment of staff by that Authority.

    [pursuant to his reply, 26 November 1979]: There has been considerable correspondence and discussion with the Civil Aviation Authority about terminating Government control of the

    and volume of ( a) textiles and ( b) clothing traded between the United Kingdom and, respectively, the Six original member States of the EEC and the non-Six in each of the years 1970 to 1978 and the current year to date.

    [pursuant to his reply, 15 November 1979, c. 769]. Following is the table:numbers and remuneration of the Authority's staff. I have not yet consulted the relevant trade unions, but I have arranged to meet them on 3 December.Ministerial control over the numbers and remuneration of staff below the equivalent of assistant secretary was waived by administrative action in 1974; and the terms of the contract of employment to be offered to seconded staff were approved pursuant to paragraph 12(2) of schedule 1 to the Civil Aviation Act 1971 in 1975. Repeal of the control provisions therefore affects the position of only the most senior staff and is of minimal concern to the trade unions.

    Companies Registration

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade on what date and for what period the latest returns and accounts of (a) St. George's Elizabethan Theatre Ltd. and (b) Blessingwell Ltd. were deposited at Companies House.

    The latest annual return and accounts relating to St. George's Elizabethan Theatre Ltd. were both received on 13 January 1979 covering the periods ended 17 November 1978 and 4 February 1977 respectively.No annual returns or accounts have been filed in respect of Blessingwell Ltd.

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Aujeszky's Disease

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether or not the contact level of Aujeszky's disease in pigs is being recorded; and what efforts are being made to ensure that farmers are aware of carrier animals within the national pig herd.

    Outbreaks of Aujeszky's disease are recorded in detail and this work has been reinforced by the disease having been made notifiable since 1 August. Owners of infected herds are informed of the consequences of movements of their pigs to other herds. In addition, we take every opportunity to describe at local meetings and in the press the means by which infection is transmitted.

    Swine Fever

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) if he will take action to secure the continuation of the derogations granted by the EEC allowing the United Kingdom to ban the import of live pigs and fresh pig meat from countries where herds continue to be infected with classical swine fever, after the expiration of the present derogations on 31 December;(2) whether, in the event that imports of live pigs or fresh pig meat are permitted after 1 January 1980 and the result is the reintroduction of classical swine fever, infected herds will be slaughtered and their owners compensated in the same terms as applied during the operation of the eradication scheme which finally achieved in 1971.

    Discussions are currently proceeding in Brussels on the future of the swine fever derogations granted by the EEC to the United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland and Denmark. It remains the policy of the United Kingdom Government to secure the extension of these derogations. No change is contemplated in the Government's slaughter and compensation policy for dealing with outbreaks of swine fever in this country in the unfortunate event of a recurrence of the disease.

    Approved Products (Farmers And Growers)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will give an estimate of how many farmers in England and Wales are in possession of the 1979 edition of "Approved Products for Farmers and Growers" published by his Department; and what proportion of the total number of farmers this represents.

    So far some 12,000 copies of this publication have been sold in the United Kingdom. No realistic estimates are available concerning the proportion reaching individual farmers. However, the matter is one on which the Government and the various industrial organisations concerned are at present considering the case for joint studies, as lately recommended by the Royal Commission on evironmental pollution.

    Greengrocers (European Community Directives)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list in the Official Report the EEC directives which affect the way in which greengrocers may run their businesses.

    No EEC directive directly affects the way in which greengrocers run their business, although a number of regulations control the quality and standards of produce which they might sell.

    Butchers (European Community Directives)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list in the Official Report the EEC directives which affect the way in which butcher shops are run.

    The Community has adopted several directives designed to protect animal and public health which affect the production of meat and meat products, but none of these extends to control of butchers' shops.

    Fishing Industry

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will make finance available to assist the fishing industry to undertake exploratory voyages for under-exploited species of fish.

    I am making available a maximum of £443,000 during the remainder of this financial year to finance voyages with the purpose of making an assessment of the commercial potential of currently under-utilised species, including horse mackerel, in the South-Western Approaches. A notice inviting tenders will appear in the press later this week. The information accruing from the voyages will be published in suitable form for the benefit of all sectors of the fishing industry.The Ministry's provisions taken in the Supply Estimates for 1979–80 will cover the voyages. Expenditure will fall within the cash limits for the appropriate vote.