Written Answers To Questions
Thursday 13 December 1979
Prime Minister (Engagements)
Q4.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q5.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q6.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q7.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q8.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q9.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q15.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q16.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q18.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q19.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q20.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q21.
asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q22.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q23.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q24.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q26.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q29.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q32.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q33.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q35.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
Q37.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q39.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
Q41.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 13 December.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 13 December.
I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Preston, North (Mr. Atkins).
House Of Commons
Works Of Art Committee
51.
asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster when he proposes to set up the House of Commons works of art committee for this Parliament.
The future status of this Committee is at present under consideration, but I hope to be able to make an announcement in the near future.
Justices Of The Peace
asked the Attorney-General whether there is an upper age limit for the appointment of justices of the peace within the United Kingdom; if such a limit is one of practice or one imposed by law; and what exceptions are permitted when local requirements so demand.
With the exception of the Duchy of Lancaster, the Lord Chancellor appoints justices for England and Wales. There is no statutory upper age limit, but as, under paragraph 4(1) of schedule 1 to the Administration of Justice Act 1973, the name of a justice must be placed on the supplemental list on reaching the age of 70, the Lord Chancellor is unlikely in practice to appoint a candidate over 60. He prefers as many candidates as possible to be under 50 years of age in order to ensure balance in the composition of a Bench, and to enable those appointed and trained as justices to give a reasonable period of service.
Education And Science
Tourist Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what steps he is taking to improve the standing of the tourist industry in the guidance given by careers masters.
My right hon. and learned Friend is taking steps to improve knowledge and understanding of industry generally. The careers and occupational information centre, which has official responsibility for the production of careers material for schools, has recently published a new title in its "Careers Profile" series on tourism.
Departmental Services
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science which of the services currently carried out by his Department he proposes to transfer to the private sector as a result of proposed cuts in the Civil Service; how many staff will be saved in each case, and at what cost; and how much it will cost to have those services carried out by the private sector.
None.
Departmental Manpower
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what modifications in procedures within his Department he proposes to make to save manpower.
The changes will reflect a lesser degree of intervention in matters which are primarily the responsibility of others, such as the local authorities, and will generally be aimed at increasing efficiency. The details of implementation are still being considered and will be the subject of consultation with the Staff Side.
Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs
Anglo-Soviet Round Table Conference
asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on the fifth Anglo-Soviet round table conference.
The fifth meeting of the Anglo-Soviet round table will be held at the Royal Institute of International Affairs on 14 and 15 December. Participation in the round table is non-governmental, but the costs are paid from Government funds. The Government believe that the round table provides valu- able opportunities for broad exchanges of views between prominent figures in British and Soviet public life.
Rhodesia (Elections)
asked the Lord Privy Seal whether the eight constituencies which will apply for the common roll seats at the forthcoming elections in Zimbabwe-Rhodesia will be the same as the constituencies at the elections held there in April 1979; and how many seats will be allocated to each constituency.
The electoral districts will be the same as at the April elections. The allocation of seats will be decided by the Governor and the Election Commissioner after they have been able to make their own assessment of population statistics.
Diplomatic Representation
asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will now take steps to reduce to chargé d'affaire level diplomatic representation in all those countries which do not recognise basic human rights.
No.
Chile
asked the Lord Privy Seal what are the factors he is considering which have led him to delay reaching a decision on affording full diplomatic recognition at ambassadorial level to the Government of Chile.
We are still examining all aspects of our relations with Chile. The level of diplomatic representation is only one of these. We already recognise the Government of Chile.
asked the Lord Privy Seal when he expects to reach a decision in his consideration of whether or not to exchange ambassadors with the Government of Chile.
I have nothing to add to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Eton and Slough (Miss Lestor) on 19 November.—[Vol. 974, c. 16.]
Home Department
Commisioner Of Police Of The Metropolis
3.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he next expects to meet the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis.
On 17 December.
Licensed Premises
11.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received recently concerning any changes in the law concerning licensed premises.
I regularly receive a variety of representations covering many aspects of the licensing laws.
Fire Precautions Act 1971
20.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether he is yet in a position to report on his consultations about future designations under the Fire Precautions Act 1971.
We are not at present in a position to make a statement about future designations under the Fire Precautions Act 1971. We are consulting our colleagues who are concerned with possible designations in the health and social services sector.
Immigration (Indian Sub-Continent)
21.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what consideration he has given to the imposition of a quota on immigration from the Indian Sub-continent, as suggested by the Select Committee on Race Relations and Immigration.
To be fully effective a quota system would require legislation. The Government have decided to give priority to changes in the immigration rules.
Representation Of The People Act 1949
22.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has any plans to introduce amendments to part II of the Representation of the People Act 1949.
We are considering this matter as part of our general review of electoral law and procedures.
Demonstrations (Police Costs)
23.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will introduce legislation to extend the powers of the police to make charges for the cost of policing demonstrations in certain circumstances.
I refer my hon. Friend to the reply my hon. and learned Friend the Minister of State gave to a question by him on 6 November.—[Vol. 973, c. 96.]
Fourth Television Channel (Wales)
24.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what date he anticipates that people in Wales will be able to receive television programmes on the fourth channel.
The Independent Broadcasting Authority has indicated that its present engineering programme should enable 90 per cent. of the population in Wales to receive the fourth channel by autumn 1982.
Television Licence Fee
25.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the increase in television licence fees, he will reconsider his decision not to introduce a concessionary television licence fee for retirement pensioners.
36.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of the increase in the television licence fee, he will now introduce a concessionary fee for retired people.
No
Local Government (Electoral Arrangements)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department for how many local government districts in England orders have been made since 1974 for new electoral arrangements.
Orders providing new electoral arrangements have been made for 23 metropolitan districts, 270 non-metropolitan districts and 31 London boroughs.
Operation Countryman
27.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Commissioners of the Metropolis and the City of London on Operation Countryman.
In accordance with the provisions of section 49 of the Police Act 1964 allegations against members of the City of London and Metropolitan police forces are currently under investigation by a senior officer from another force. His report will be submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions for his independent consideration of the possible need for criminal proceedings. It would not be appropriate for me to seek to take any action or to comment further at this stage.
Licensing Hours
28.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representation she has received from chief constables and the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis concerning additional work caused to police forces arising from any extension of licensing hours.
None.
Second Independent Television Channel
29.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is now able to announce the date of publication of the Government's plan for the second independent television channel.
I hope that legislation to implement the plans which I outlined in my speech to the Royal Television Society on 14 September, a copy of which has been placed in the Library of the House, will be introduced early in the New Year.
Police Recruitment
30.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on police recruitment.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on changes in police manpower and morale in recent months.
Total strength of the police service in England and Wales on 31 October 1979 was 112,883, a gain of 5,084 since the Edmund-Davies committee report was published. The Metropolitan Police strength was 22,468, a gain of 857 since the report, but still substantially below establishment. Outside London, many forces are close to establishment, and my right hon. Friend has approved some increases for the current financial year. I am in no doubt that implementation of the reports on pay and negotiating machinery has strengthened the high morale of the service.
Drug Abuse
31.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the sentencing and treatment of persons convicted of offences involving drug abuse.
If my hon. Friend would let me know what particular aspects of these matters concern him I should be glad to write to him. Detailed information on the sentencing of drugs offenders was published in chapter 3 of "Statistics of the Misuse of Drugs, United Kingdom, 1977".
Young Persons (Vehicle Offences)
32.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, for the latest available year, how many people under the age 10 years are known to have committed offences involving violence and for taking and driving away motor vehicles in the Metropolitan Police area.
Children under the age of 10 are below the age of criminal responsibility and therefore cannot be guilty of an offence. However, I understand from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis that in 1978 there were four cases of assault and 31 of taking and driving away a motor vehicle where the person arrested for the offence was found to be under 10 years old.
Sexual Offences
33.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to receive the report of the Criminal Law Revision Committee and his Department's working party on possible changes in the law relating to sexual offences.
It is not yet possible to forecast when the Criminal Law Revision Committee and Policy Advisory Committee on Sexual Offences are likely to complete their review of this area of the law.
Refugees (Latin America)
34.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many applications to enter the United Kingdom have been received from Latin American refugees during the past six months, broken down by the nationalities of the applicants.
The figures are as follows:51 applications from Argentinians involving 115 people.25 applications from Chileans involving 80 people.Two applications from Paraguayans involving seven people.One application from an Ecuadorean involving four people.
35.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people have been admitted to the United Kingdom under the Latin American refugee programme during the past 12 months.
A total of 88 are known to have arrived.
Citizens Band Radio
37.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many citizens band radio users are cur- rently transmitting in the United Kingdom.
I have no reliable information as to the number of such users.
Custodial Regimes
38.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what alterations he proposes to the nature of custodial regimes in order to reduce the current high re-conviction rate among those released after custodial sentences.
Every effort continues to be made, within the resources available, to explore methods of making regimes more purposeful and effective. The relevant recommendations of the May committee are now also being taken into account in this process.
Police Interviews (Tape Recording)
39.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what progress has been made in experiments in the tape recording of police interviews with suspects.
I understand that the Royal Commission on criminal procedure expects to receive early in the new year a report on the studies which it has commissioned.
General Elections (Electoral Register)
41.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied that adequate means exist to prevent people who appear on the electoral register of more than one constituency from voting in both constituencies in a general election.
Yes. In the absence of evidence that double voting takes place on any significant scale I do not consider that any new procedures are needed.
British Broadcasting Corporation
47.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the Government have any plans to change the financial arrangements for the British Broadcasting Corporation; and if he will make a statement.
No.
Schoolchildren (Custodial Detention)
42.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many 14 to 16-year old schoolchildren by age and sex were being held in (a) local prisons and (b) remand centres,
| JUVENILES AGED 14–16 IN REMAND CENTRES AND LOCAL PRISONS IN ENGLAND AND WALES ON 30 SEPTEMBER 1979: BY AGE AND SEX* | ||||||||
| Age | Number of persons Total | |||||||
| Type of establishment and sex | 14 | 15 | 16 | |||||
| Local prisons: | ||||||||
| Males | … | … | … | … | 0 | 5 | 27 | 32 |
| Females | … | … | … | … | 0 | 4 | 2 | 6 |
| Remand centres: | ||||||||
| Males | … | … | … | … | 19 | 88 | 152 | 259 |
| Females | … | … | … | … | 0 | 5 | 13 | 18 |
| Total | … | … | … | … | 19 | 102 | 194 | 315 |
| * Includes 43 sentenced juveniles (15 in local prisons and 28 in remand centres). | ||||||||
| UNSENTENCED JUVENILES AGED 14–16 IN REMAND CENTRES AND LOCAL PRISONS IN ENGLAND AND WALES ON 30 SEPTEMBER 1979: BY LENGTH OF TIME SINCE FIRST REMAND | ||||||
| Length of time since first remand* | Males | Number of persons Females | ||||
| Up to and including 1 week | … | … | … | … | 51 | 4 |
| Over 1 week up to and including 2 weeks | … | … | … | … | 45 | 2 |
| Over 2 weeks up to and including 1 month | … | … | … | … | 75 | 3 |
| Over 1 month up to and including 6 weeks | … | … | … | … | 33 | 1 |
| Over 6 weeks up to and including 2 months | … | … | … | … | 18 | 1 |
| Over 2 months up to and including 3 months | … | … | … | … | 20 | 0 |
| Over 3 months | … | … | … | … | 19 | 0 |
| Total | … | … | … | … | 261 | 11 |
| * Including any time which may have been spent on bail. | ||||||
Parliamentary Boundary Commission
43.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects the Parliamentary Boundary Commission to conclude its proposals; and if he will make a statement.
I refer the hon. Member to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to a question by the hon. Member for Manchester, Gorton (Mr. Marks) on 4 December.—[Vol. 975, c. 104–5.]
Senior Attendance Centres
44.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he proposes to make available senior attendance centres for those aged from 17 to 21 years; and where the first new centre will be located.
at the latest available date; and what was the length of time that each of them had been on remand.
The information is as follows:
Attendance centres covering the whole of this age-group are at present in operation in Manchester and Greenwich. It is the Government's policy to open more senior attendance centres, but the rate at which this can be done will depend on the making of satisfactory arrangements for accommodation and staffing. I am looking into the possibilities in several places, in the hope of being able to make one or more new centres available by next March; but I cannot yet say which will be the first to be opened.
Immigration
46.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, pursuant to the Minister of State's answer Official Report, 26 November, column 416, relating to arrivals of immigrants at Heathrow airport on 20 November, why the cost of providing a full answer to the original question would be disproportionate.
Because statistics on the numbers arriving at Heathrow airport are not compiled on a daily basis.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what were the numbers of male financeés and husbands, respectively, in Bangladesh awaiting interview by the British High Commission there at the last convenient date in respect of their application to join their financeées and wives in Great Britain; and what is the estimated average delay between the date of those applications and the anticipated date of interview.
At 30 September 1979 there were 21 fiancés and 49 husbands at Dacca awaiting decisions on their applications for entry clearances. It is estimated that a fiancé or husband applying at Dacca at the end of September 1979 may have to wait about two years for an interview.
Corporal Punishment
45.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has any plans to re-introduce corporal punishment for crimes of violence.
No.
Children And Young Persons Act 1969
48.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he is proposing to amend the Children and Young Persons Act 1969 to give more powers to magistrates' courts in dealing with the young offender.
I cannot yet say when I shall be ready to introduce legislation on this subject.
Pop Concerts
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the operation of the law relating to safety and security at pop concerts.
Events of this kind may, dependent upon where they are held, be subject to a variety of enactments, some of which are local in character. I am not aware that these arrangements have given rise to any serious problems.
Bristol Prison
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if evening classes at Bristol prison have been suspended; if so, when this was done; for how long; how many prisoners are involved; on whose authority they were suspended and for what reason; what steps are being taken to bring about a resumption of these classes; and when they are expected to start again.
Most evening classes at Bristol prison were suspended on 10 October as a result of action taken by prison officers to express their concern at financial cuts in local authority education services; efforts are being made to arrange for the resumption of classes but no date can yet be given. About 100 prisoners are affected.
Wormwood Scrubs
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will detail the individual punishments imposed by the Wormwood Scrubs governor and board of visitors, respectively, on prisoners charged after being involved with the disturbances of 31 August; if any prisoners were charged with assaulting an unknown prison officer; and if so, how many.
A total of 169 charges were brought under the prison rules of which 14 involved assaults on unidentified prison officers. Individual punishments ranged from 120 days' forfeiture of remission plus 56 days' forfeiture of privileges, stoppage of earnings and exclusion from associated work to stoppage of earnings for a period of three days.
Iranian Demonstration (Policing Costs)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis as to the estimated cost to public funds of policing the demonstration of Iranians in London on Sunday 2 December in support of the Ayatollah Khomeini, and as to the number of police engaged.
I understand from the Commissioner that 750 officers were on duty for the demonstration on 2 December organised by the Muslim Solidarity Committee, United Kingdom. The cost of the police operation could be caluclated only at disproportionate expense.
Demonstrations (Policing Costs)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will consider introducing legislation to compel organisers of demonstrations to pay for the cost of policing such events.
I refer my hon. Friend to a reply I gave on 6 November to a question by my hon. Friend, the Member for Northampton, North (Mr. Marlow).—[Vol. 973, c. 96.]
Firearms And Shotguns
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the procedures for checking applications for firearms and shotgun certificates.
The responsibility for these procedures rests with chief officers of police, and I am satisfied that they are appropriate.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) whether he has any plans to increase the fees for firearms and shotgun certificates or to introduce further controls;(2) whether he is satisfied that the present laws relating to the possession of firearms and shotguns are adequate; and if he has any new proposals to limit the illegal possession of firearms.
We have these matters under review.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is satisfied with the control of private advertising of gun sales.
There are no specific controls over advertising of gun sales. Both purchasers and vendors are bound by the provisions of the Firearms Act 1968, and we have no immediate plans to amend it.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the number of total indictable offences recorded by the police in England and Wales at the latest convenient date; and in what percentage of these guns were used.
1978 is the latest period for which information on the total number of indictable offences recorded can be related to the number of offences in which firearms were reported to have been used; the numbers were published respectively in tables 2.1 and 3.1 of "Criminal Statistics, England and Wales, 1978".—Cmnd. 7670. Overall, firearms were reported to have been used in less than a quarter of 1 per cent. of all the indictable offences recorded in 1978; corresponding percentages for the most relevant individual offence groups were given in table 3.2 of the same publication.
Police Training College, Dishforth
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will consider transferring the police training college for the North-East of England from Dishforth to Wentworth House near Rotherham to avoid further aircraft noise which would be suffered if it were moved to Middleton St. George, County Durham in accordance with the recommendation of the Police Training Council.
We are still considering the recommendation of the Police Training Council and I shall write to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
One-Day Sales
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will consider strict regulation of premises used for one-day sales to ensure that public safety and hygiene standards are maintained.
We have no proposals for amendment of the law for this purpose.
Prison Officers
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to reduce the long hours of overtime worked by prison officers.
The committee of inquiry into the United Kingdom prison services made a number of recommendations on the use of prison service manpower and the level of overtime working, and these will be followed up as recommended by the committee in full consultation with the staff associations concerned.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the current shortfall in the approved establishment of prison officers in the United Kingdom.
The number of prison officers in England and Wales on 1 December was 1,060 below the level approved for the year ending 1 April 1981.
Prison Service (Recruitment)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the response to recent advertisements seeking recruits to the prison service; how many new entrants have been accepted into the service over the past three months; and how this compares with the position 12 months ago.
The response has been encouraging; the number of applications for employment as a prison officer is currently 30 per cent. up on last year. In the three months to 30 November 1979, 299 new entrants joined for training, against 246 in the same period last year.
Parliamentary Candidates (Deposit)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now introduce legislation to increase the deposit payable by parliamentary candidates to £750.
I am considering this matter as part of my general review of electoral law and procedures.
Lotteries
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will seek to amend the Lotteries Act so as to clarify the position of schoolchildren selling raffle tickets in aid of school funds, particularly where reference is made to alcoholic drinks included amongst the raffle prizes.
The Lotteries Regulations 1977 prohibit the sale of a ticket or chance in a society's lottery or local auth- ority lottery by or to a person who has not attained the age of 16 years. There is no similar prohibition relating to private lotteries, or small lotteries incidental to entertanments such as bazaars and fetes, and I do not think the case for one has been made out. As to the use of alcoholic liquor as a prize in a lottery, I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave on 15 November to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Exeter (Mr. Hannam).—[Vol. 973, c. 1476.]
Welsh National Broadcasting Committee (Correspondence)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he intends to reply to the letter sent to him by the Welsh National Broadcasting Committee on 9 November, requesting a meeting; and if he will meet representatives of the National Broadcasting Conference.
I wrote to the hon. Member on 5 December and indicated that I would be glad to meet him and other representatives of the Welsh National Broadcasting Conference.
Departmental Services
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department which of the services currently carried out by his Department he proposes to transfer to the private sector as a result of proposed cuts in the Civil Service; how many staff will be saved in each case, and at what cost; and how much it will cost to have those services carried out by the private sector.
I have no plans at present to transfer to the private sector any services which are currently carried out in the Home Office.
Manpower Savings
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what improvements in efficiency he plans to make to reduce manpower; and if he will list the miscellaneous savings he intends to make, and in which areas.
Improved efficiency—for example, through changes in working methods, and through mechanisation and the use of computers—is a continuing process applicable to the whole of my Department, from which I expect further useful savings over the next two years. I have not yet reached firm conclusions on the miscellaneous savings to be made as part of the longer-term reductions in the size of the Civil Service.
Scientologists
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to make an announcement concerning his review of the ban on foreign Scientologists wishing to enter the United Kingdom.
I am actively considering this matter but I am not able to say when conclusions will be reached.
Prisoners (Murder Convictions)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the average amount of time spent in prison by all those convicted of murder who were sentenced to life imprisonment and subsequently released.
| 1975 | 1976 | 1977 | 1978 | 1979 | |||||
| Cumbria | … | … | … | … | 16 | 11 | 6 | 18 | 12 |
| Lancashire | … | … | … | … | 28 | 65 | 55 | 51 | 80 |
| Greater Manchester | … | … | 95 | 125 | 147 | 124 | 166 | ||
| Merseyside | … | … | … | … | 65 | 88 | 99 | 103 | 71 |
National Finance
Tax Allowances
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what is his estimate of the annual inflation rate from April 1979 to April 1980 and to April 1981; and what would be the cost of raising (a) the single person's allowance, (b) the married man's allowance, (c) the additional personal allowance and (d) the age allowance in line with that rate;(2) what would be the cost in the financial year 1980–81 of raising (
a) the
It is not practicable to give this information in respect of all persons who have ever been convicted of murder. For those released in England and Wales during the years 1969–78 inclusive the average was nine years and eleven months. This includes young offenders detained during Her Majesty's pleasure but not persons who had previously been released on licence and subsequently recalled to prison.
Magistrates
asked the Attorney-General how many magistrates have been appointed in the North-West in each of the last 10 years; and how these figures compare with other regions taking density of population into account.
[pursuant to his reply, 11 December 1979, c. 543]: Figures are not available for the present commission areas for the years prior to local government reorganisation. Since then, the number of magistrates appointed in the North-West are these:single person's allowance, (
b) the married man's allowance, ( c) the additional personal allowance and ( d) the age allowance by (i) 16 per cent., (ii) 18 per cent. and (iii) 20 per cent.
The most recently published forecast of changes in the retail prices index relates to the following periods only and is as follows:
| Increase per cent | |
| Between fourth quarter 1978 and Fourth quarter 1979 | 17½ |
| Between fourth quarter 1979 and fourth quarter 1980 | 14 |
| Percentage Increase | cost£ million | |||
| 14 per cent. | … | … | … | 1,625 |
| 17½per cent. | … | … | … | 2,025 |
| 16 per cent. | … | … | … | 1,850 |
| 18 per cent. | … | … | … | 2,075 |
| 20 per cent. | … | … | … | 2,235 |
Pension Funds
49.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give an estimate of the amount of money which will be available for investment from the pension funds of the public sector in the next two financial years assuming an average rate of inflation and earnings of 12 per cent.
No. The Government do not make detailed forecasts of the investible surpluses of public sector pension funds.
Mortgage Interest (Tax Relief)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, pursuant to the Inland Revenue press release of 30 November on building society interest relief for pay as-you-earn, how soon after 5 April 1980 he expects to be able to make the lump sum payment of relief due for 1979–80.
Any relief due for 1979–80 by reason of the increased rate of building society interest will be given by repayment as soon as possible after the societies report the actual interest paid.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, pursuant to the Inland Revenue press release of 30 November, if the new code numbers for 1980–81 now being prepared will take account of the higher mortgage interest rates; and what rates he has told the Inland Revenue to assume for the whole of that year.
It is not possible to predict the course of mortgage interest rates over the coming financial year. PAYE codings for 1980–81 will, therefore, be based upon an interest rate of 15 per cent., the rate most recently announced by the Building Societies Association.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, pursuant to the Inland Revenue press release of 30 November, how hardship will be defined for the purposes of adjusting the code number for 1979–80 as a matter of urgency.
The right hon. Gentleman will know from his own experience of these matters that it is not practicable to lay down a general definition of hardship for this purpose.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, for a married man with two children, what is the increase in mortgage interest tax relief he receives with the rise in interest rate to 15 per cent. if his gross salary is £3,000, £5,000, £8,000, £12,000 and £20,000, assuming in each case a mortgage loan of three times the gross salary, and assuming in the case of the £20,000 salary man firstly that he is subject to the investment income surcharge of 15 per cent., and secondly that he is not.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Double Taxation Relief
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when he expects to publish as a draft order the proposed double taxation relief agreement agreed in principle with Australia.
The final details of a protocol to amend the double taxation agreement between the United Kingdom and Australia should be settled shortly.
Inflation
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer, further to the reply given to the hon. Member for Glasgow, Mary-hill Official Report 18 June, column 393, what is his forecast for the rate of inflation on 3 May 1980 and 3 May 1981.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Public Sector Pension Funds
ask the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will estimate what would be the effect on the public service borrowing requirement if all public sector pensions ceased to be funded and the pay-as-you-go system for those which are funded was adopted.
No. Any estimate of the quantitative impact of such a change on the public sector borrowing requirement depends crucially on the assumptions made about the form of the PAYG system adopted and the resultant pattern of effects on pension contributions, prices, wages, pensions, and taxation.
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give an estimate of the amount of money available for investment from the pension funds of the public sector for the current financial year.
I refer the right hon. Member to the reply I gave him today.
European Community Budget
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by how much the net United Kingdom contribution to the EEC budget would be reduced if each member country were required to finance the requirements of the common agricultural policy within its borders; and what the United Kingdom net contribution would then be based on the assumption that money compensatory amounts benefit the exporting country where community prices are higher than world market prices.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Motability
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether all Motability cars are exempt from vehicle excise duty, as was stated in the Official Report, 2 July, column 443; and, if they are not, what rules govern entitlement to
| TRADE IN AGRICULTURAL TRACTORS IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 1970, 1975 1978 AND 1979 | ||||||||||
| units | ||||||||||
| 1970 | 1975 | 1978 | 1979 | |||||||
| IMPORTS: | ||||||||||
| GDR | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 122 | — | — |
| USSR | … | … | … | … | … | … | 3 | 224 | 582 | 231 |
| Czechoslovakia | … | … | … | … | 210 | 841 | 415 | 1,298 | ||
| Poland | … | … | … | … | … | 6 | 159 | 124 | 39 | |
| Hungary | … | … | … | … | … | 2 | — | — | — | |
| Romania | … | … | … | … | … | 56 | 181 | 158 | 150 | |
| Sub-total | … | … | … | … | 277 | 1,527 | 1,279 | 1,718 | ||
| EXPORTS: | ||||||||||
| GDR | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | 4 | 1 | — |
| USSR | … | … | … | … | … | … | 12 | 3 | — | 7 |
| Czechoslovakia | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | ||
| Poland | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | 9 | 266 | |
| Hungary | … | … | … | … | … | — | — | — | — | |
| Romania | … | … | … | … | … | 3 | — | — | — | |
| Sub-total | … | … | … | … | 15 | 7 | 10 | 273 | ||
Export Prices
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the ratio exemption from vehicle excise duty for a Motability car and for a car registered in the name of a recipient of mobility allowance.
[pursuant to his reply, 11 December 19791]: Any disabled person who is supplied with a vehicle through Motability is able to obtain exemption from vehicle excise duty, subject to the usual provisions, laid down in section 8 of the Finance Act 1978, that the vehicle is used by or for his purposes. In answering the right hon. Gentleman's earlier question concerning the normal tax position of lessees my hon. and learned Friend the Minister of State, assumed this situation to be what he had in mind.
Trade
Agricultural Tractors
50.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list the number of agricultural tractors imported into tide United Kingdom in the first six months of 1970, 1975, 1978 and 1979 from the following countries: East Germany, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Hungary, and Romania, and the export of agricultural tractors from the United Kingdom to those countries over the same periods.
The information is as follows:of the increase in manufactured exports prices over the period 1952 to 1978 to the corresponding increase in the wholesale price of manufacturers, where available, for each of the eight latest manufacturing countries;
As far as can be ascertained, information on wholesale
| COMPARISONS OF EXPORT UNIT VALUE AND WHOLESAL PRICE INDICES—MANUFACTURES | |||||||
| UVI 1978 | WPI 1978 | (a) | |||||
| UVI 1952 | WPI 1952 | (b) | |||||
| (a) | (b) | ||||||
| United Kingdom | … | … | … | 4·41 | 4·27 | 1·03 | |
| United States | … | … | … | … | 2·78 | 2·49 | 1·12 |
| Note: | |||||||
| The figures given above may not be wholly comparable because of differences in definition and compilation. | |||||||
| Sources: | |||||||
| United Kingdom—Department of Trade estimates. | |||||||
| United States of America—IMF International Financial Statistics 1979. UN Statistical Yearbook 1962. UN Monthly Bulletin September 1979. | |||||||
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will take steps to ensure that airlines operating Concorde over North Devon and the Bristol Channel, reroute or reschedule flights to avoid the recurring sonic booms that disturb residents at night.
Concorde begins and ends supersonic flight sufficiently far from land to ensure that no part of the United Kingdom is disturbed by primary sonic booms but under certain climatic conditions, which normally occur only during the winter months, a reflected or secondary boom of much lower intensity is some times heard in Devon and other counties in the South-West. The changes in routes and operating procedures that have already been made have substantially reduced the disturbance caused by these secondary booms. The situation will be kept under review, but it is unlikely that much more can be done without imposing unacceptable operating penalties on the aircraft.
Manufacturers (Exports)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the United Kingdom share of exports of manufacturers to (a) EEC countries and (b) non-EEC countries for 1970 to 1978.
The United Kingdom share of exports of manufactured goods is normally measured in terms of our share of the value of main manufacturing Prices of manufactures is available for this period only for the United Kingdom and the United States of America. The information requestion for these two countries is as follows:Countries' exports of manufactured goods. Annual information, using this definition, is as follows:
| UNITED KINGDOM SHARE OF MAIN MANUFACTURING COUNTRIES* EXPORTS OF MANUFACTURED GOODS† | |||
| To EEC countries | Percentages To non-EEC countries | ||
| 1970 | … | 8·1 | 12·0 |
| 1971 | … | 8·4 | 12·4 |
| 1972 | … | 7·7 | 11·4 |
| 1973 | … | 7·5 | 10·6 |
| 1974 | … | 7·7 | 9·3 |
| 1975 | … | 8·1 | 9·9 |
| 1976 | … | 8·2 | 9·0 |
| 1977 | … | 9·0 | 9·4 |
| 1978‡ | … | 8·9 | 9·8 |
| *The main manufacturing countries are taken as United Kingdom, Belgium/Luxembourg. France, Federal Republic of Germany, Italy Netherlands, Sweden, Switzerland, United States of America, Canada and Japan. Together these countries account for about three-quarters of world exports of manufactured goods. | |||
| †SITC (R) Sections 5 to 8. | |||
| ‡SITC (R2) Sections 5 to 8. | |||
| Source: OECD Trade Series B except 1978 data for United States of America taken from Highlights of United States Export and Import Trade. | |||
Cotton And Man-Made Fibre
asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) from which countries and in what proportions imports came into the United Kingdom in 1978 in the Lancashire cotton man-made fibre, spinning textile sector, taking cotton and man-made fibres separately;(2) what was the level of imports in each quarter of 1977, each quarter of 1978 and the three quarters of 1979 by volume and by value in the Lancashire cotton, man-made fibre, spinning textile sector, taking cotton and man-made fibres separately;(3) to which countries and in what proportion exports went in 1978 in the Lancashire cotton, man-made fibre, spinning sector, taking cotton and man-made fibres separately;
| COTTON YARN1 | |||||||
| I. | |||||||
| I.1:Trade by Quarter Years | |||||||
| Imports | Exports | ||||||
| Tonnes | £ thousand cif | Tonnes | £thousand fob | ||||
| Q1 1977 | … | … | … | 8,101 | 14,826 | 2,658 | 7,059 |
| Q2 1977 | … | … | … | 7,828 | 14,730 | 3,179 | 7,677 |
| Q3 1977 | … | … | … | 6,570 | 12,614 | 2,344 | 6,111 |
| Q4 1977 | … | … | … | 6,430 | 12,658 | 2,490 | 6,466 |
| Q1 1978 | … | … | … | 8,754 | 15,146 | 2,985 | 7,188 |
| Q2 1978 | … | … | … | 8,997 | 14,589 | 2,786 | 7,395 |
| Q3 1978 | … | … | … | 9,276 | 14,831 | 2,205 | 5,967 |
| Q4 1978 | … | … | … | 6,743 | 11,629 | 2,655 | 7,582 |
| Q1 1979 | … | … | … | 8,865 | 15,473 | 2,455 | 5,980 |
| Q2 1979 | … | … | … | 11,050 | 18,740 | 2,983 | 6,943 |
| Q3 1979 | … | … | … | 9,838 | 17,146 | 2,235 | 6,192 |
| I.2:Trade in the period January-December 1978 | |||||
| Imports | Exports | ||||
| Countries | Percentage distribution (by weight) | Countries | Percentage distribution (by weight) | ||
| Portugal | … | 18·9 | Irish Republic | … | 16·7 |
| Turkey | … | 17·1 | Federal Republic of Germany | … | 14·6 |
| Italy | … | 11·6 | Nigeria | … | 7·9 |
| Greece | … | 8·5 | Syria | … | 7·4 |
| Spain | … | 7·1 | France | … | 6·8 |
| Irish Republic | … | 4·9 | Sweden | … | 6·5 |
| Israel | … | 4·0 | German Democratic Republic | … | 5·9 |
| Switzerland | … | 3·4 | Denmark | … | 5·9 |
| South Africa | … | 3·1 | Finland | … | 3·3 |
| France | … | 2·8 | Norway | … | 2·7 |
| Columbia | … | 2·6 | Belgium-Luxembourg | … | 2·7 |
| Belgium-Luxembourg | … | 2·3 | Australia | … | 2·5 |
| Netherlands | … | 1·7 | New Zealand | … | 1·8 |
| Brazil | … | 1·7 | Canada | … | 1·6 |
| Federal Republic of Germany | … | 1·5 | Netherlands | … | 1·5 |
| Other countries | … | 8·9 | Other countries | … | 12·2 |
| YARN OF DISCONTINUOUS SYNTHETIC AND REGENERATED FIBRES2 | |||||||
| II | |||||||
| II. 1:Trade by Quarter Years | |||||||
| Imports | Exports | ||||||
| Tonnes | £thousand cif | Tonnes | £thousand fob | ||||
| Q1 1977 | … | … | … | 5920 | 11,623 | 5,186 | 10,293 |
| Q2 1977 | … | … | … | 5,897 | 11,993 | 4,953 | 9,548 |
| Q3 1977 | … | … | … | 5,239 | 11,234 | 3,372 | 7,167 |
| Q4 1977 | … | … | … | 6,862 | 14,481 | 4,220 | 9,027 |
| Q1 1978 | … | … | … | 6,900 | 14,528 | 4,806 | 9,524 |
| Q2 1978 | … | … | … | 7,331 | 16,233 | 4,458 | 9,182 |
| Q3 1978 | … | … | … | 6,638 | 15,156 | 4,018 | 8,665 |
| Q4 1978 | … | … | … | 7,979 | 19,247 | 5,188 | 11,244 |
| Q1 1979 | … | … | … | 6,869 | 16,484 | 5,241 | 10,452 |
| Q2 1979 | … | … | … | 6,952 | 16,975 | 6,777 | 13,273 |
| Q3 1979 | … | … | … | 6,636 | 14,858 | 4,669 | 9,912 |
(4) what was the level of exports in each quarter of 1977, each quarter of 1978 and the three quarters of 1979 by volume and by value in the Lancashire cotton and man-made fibre spining textile sector, taking cotton and man-made fibres separately.
The information is as follows:—
| II.2:Trade in the period January-December 1978 | |||||
Imports
| Exports
| ||||
| Countries | Percentage distribution (by weight) | Countries | Percentage distribution (by weight) | ||
| Italy | … | 17·8 | Irish Republic | … | 14·6 |
| Austria | … | 15·7 | Belgium-Luxembourg | … | 8·4 |
| Irish Reppublic | … | 13·5 | France | … | 7·4 |
| France | … | 9·4 | United States of America | … | 7·4 |
| United States of America | … | 7·1 | Sweden | … | 6·3 |
| Federal Republic of Germany | … | 6·0 | Soviet Union | … | 5·9 |
| Portugal | … | 4·5 | Federal Republic of Germany | … | 5·3 |
| Mauritius | … | 3·4 | German Democratic Republic | … | 5·2 |
| Belgium-Luxembourg | … | 3·3 | Finland | … | 4·8 |
| Switerland | … | 3·3 | Denmark | … | 4·3 |
| South Korea | … | 3·2 | Netherland | … | 2·9 |
| Greece | … | 2·9 | Iran | … | 2·9 |
| Malaysia | … | 1·6 | Nigeria | … | 2·5 |
| Netherlands | … | 1·5 | Switzerland | … | 2·4 |
| Taiwan | … | 1·4 | Hungary | … | 2·1 |
| Other countries | … | 5·5 | Other countries | … | 17·7 |
Source:
| |||||
| United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics (1) SITC (Rev 1) Sub-groups 651·3 and ·4; (2) SITC (Rev 1) Items 651·64, ·65, 74 and 75 and corresponding items under SITC (Rev 2). | |||||
Note:
| |||||
| The effects of industrial action have led to distortions in the pattern of trade recorded in the first eight months of this year, and the figures for the three quarters of 1979 must be interpreted with particular caution. | |||||
Andrews Hydraulics International Ltd
asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) if Andrews Hydraulics International Ltd. has requested an extension of the time allowed to deposit annual returns and accounts at Companies House; and, if so, on what date a decision was taken on the request;(2) when the latest return and accounts for Andrews Hydraulics International Ltd. were deposited at Companies House; and what period they covered;(3) if he will list the directors of Andrews Hydraulics International Ltd. shown on the latest return available at Companies House and those one year previously.
Andrews Hydraulics International Ltd. has not requested such an extension but wrote to the Registrar of Companies on 1 November 1979 to express its regret that the accounts to 31 December 1978 were overdue. I am advised that an annual return has since been despatched by the company but for technical reasons is unacceptable and is the subject of correspondence between the company and the registrar. The company has told the registrar that the accounts should be ready by the end of the year. Until these documents are received, the most recent annual return available at Companies House is that
made up to 28 December 1977 and the most recent accounts are those for the year ending December 1977. These were deposited on 21 April 1978 and 14 November 1978 respectively. That return recorded the following directors:
John William Frederic Nott
Peter David Stevenson
James Norman Mason
Stanley Peter Hutchings
The preceding return, made up to 16 November 1976, recorded the following directors:
John William Frederic Nott
Trevor William Andrew
Peter David Stevenson
James Norman Mason
In accordance with normal practice, my right hon. Friend has resigned this directorship since taking office and notification has been given to the registrar.
Pig Iron
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government regarding import of pig iron; and if he will take action to reduce the level of imports from subsidised producers and of imports in excess of bilateral agreements.
Pig iron is covered by the Community's anti-crisis measures for iron and steel products. These comprise, among other things, a basic import price scheme which is designed to facilitate anti-dumping action against unfairly priced imports of the products and the negotiation by the Commission of voluntary restraint arrangements with supplying countries. It is our policy to ensure that these measures are continued into 1980 in a fully effective form.
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the total landed value of pig iron imports in each of the years from 1973; and what are the projections for 1979.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Morocco (Coal Imports)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many tonnes of coal have been imported from Morocco in each of the last five years.
[pursuant to his reply, 12 December 1979]: United Kingdom imports of coal consigned from Morocco were as follows:
| Tonnes | |||
| 1974 | … | … | 6,497 |
| 1975 | … | … | — |
| 1976 | … | … | 15,085 |
| 1977 | … | … | 16,629 |
| 1978 | … | … | 24,236 |
| January—October 1979 | … | … | 24,147 |
| Source: | |||
| United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics (SITC (Rev 2) Sub-groups 322·1and·2 and SITC (Rev 1) Sub-group 321·4). | |||
Defence
V-Bombers
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the average age of Great Britain's V-bomber force.
I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Tynemouth (Mr. Trotter) on 10 December.—[Vol. 975, c. 527.]
Army And Royal Air Force (Pay)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will provide comparative figures for the pay of members of the Army and RAF and the other European NATO countries in a range of ranks.
I regret that in the time available it has not been practicable to provide the informtion requested. I shall publish a reply in the Official Report as soon as possible.
Employment
Firestone Factory, Brentford
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make provision for further industrial retraining facilities in the Brentford area in order to assist employees at Firestone, Ltd., Brentford, who are facing redundancy in February 1980.
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that it is too early to say to what extent those affected by this redundancy will need retraining. However, a wide variety of training is available under the training opportunities scheme (TOPS) in the Commission's skillcentres and at colleges of further education within daily travelling distance of Brentford.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what arrangements are being made by his Department to help employees of Firestone Rubber Tyre, Great West Road, Brentford, following the company's announcement to close in February 1980
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission, which is responsible for the public employment and training services, that special approaches are being made to employers in the area to obtain as much information as possible about current and likely future vacancies which may be of interest to the redundant workers. Work is in hand sifting inquiries received from employers expressing interest in recruiting the workers involved. A mini job-centre will be opened on the company premises on 9 January 1980. This will provide a self-service vacancy display and MSC staff will be in attendance to interview workers, to provide information and advice about alternative employment and training opportunities, and to ensure that the full range of MSC services are made available.Representatives of my own Department's redundancy payments office and the unemployment benefit service will also be on hand to advise and assist.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will bring forward proposals to assist employees at the Firestone factory in Brentford, who are facing redundancy in February 1980, to obtain alternative employment.
I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission (MSC) which is responsible for the public employment and training services that agreement has been reached with Firestone Tyre and Rubber Co. Ltd., for the MSC to operate a mini jobcentre on the firm's premises with effect from 9 January next year. This is considered to be the earliest appropriate date in view of the preparatory work the MSC is required to do and the fact that the firm's premises will close on 21 December until 7 January.The preparatory work the MSC has in hand includes special approaches to employers in the area to obtain as much information as possible about current and likely future vacancies which may be of interest to the Firestone workers and sifting inquiries received from employers who express an interest in recruiting workers becoming redundant.
Redundancy Fund
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current financial state of the redundancy fund.
Taking into account interest on investment just notified of £2·9 million, the fund was in surplus of approximately £132 million as at 12 December 1979.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the investments made with moneys from the redundancy fund, giving details of rates of interest, maturity dates and yield.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Maternity Leave
asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many women at present exercise their right to return to work after maternity leave; and how he estimates the provisions in the Employment Bill will affect this number;(2) how many women exercising their right to return to work after maternity leave work for firms employing fewer than six people; and how he estimates the provisions in the Employment Bill will affect this number.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Departmental Services
asked the Secretary of State for Employment which of the services currently carried out by his Department he proposes to transfer to the private sector as a result of proposed cuts in the Civil Service; how many staff will be saved in each case, and at what cost; and how much it will cost to have those services carried out by the private sector.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Unemployment Benefit
asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) when he expects to announce his conclusion on the possibility of fortnightly attendance for unemployment benefit; and how much he estimates such a move would save;(2) what administrative improvements he is planning in unemployment benefit offices.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Computerisation
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the savings which he expects to make from computerisation.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Health And Safety Executive
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what reductions in the activities of the Health and Safety Executive are planned, in order to save 260 staff at a cost of £2·2 million.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Industrial Disputes (Lost Man-Days)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many man-days were lost in industrial disputes in each year since and including 1970, to date; in 1979, how many man-days were lost up to 3 May; and how many from 4 May.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Manpower Services Commission
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what reductions in employment and training services by the Manpower Services Commission are proposed; and how much these will save.
My hon. Friend the Minister of State, Civil Service Department announced on 6 December that the Manpower Services Commission would save approximately 3,400 staff from reductions in employment and training services leading to a reduction in staff costs of £20·2 million. I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that it will be meeting shortly to consider how this reduction should be apportioned among its various operational programmes.
Working Women
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has received a copy of the report of the working party established by the Manpower Services Commission concerning the problems facing working women; and if he will make a statement.
I will reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Energy
Coal Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the present level of subsidy, grants and other payments from public funds to the National Coal Board.
The external financing limit of the NCB for 1979–80 will remain at £709 million as announced on 12 June 1979. Within that figure the Government are making available to the NCB in the current financial year up to £255 million in grants at 1979–80 outturn prices, subject to parliamentary approval of Supplementary Estimates.
Northern Ireland
Rates
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland which services which are currently the responsibility of central Government could be financed from estimated rates income without recourse to other public funds.
Water and sewerage.
Water Service
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the annual cost of the water service; and what amount of regional rate would be required to support the service if the cost was met out of rates alone.
The direct cost of running the water service, including sewerage, in 1978–79 was approximately £57 million.As the present regional rate is not based on actual expenditure, there is no separately definable water and sewerage rate. If, however, the figures were translated into a poundage rate, based on the present level of valuation in Northern Ireland, it would be approximately 32p in the £.
Terrorism
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how he intends to make use of the agreement on terror ism recently signed in Dublin.
I welcome the recent signing, on 4 December, of the agreement concerning the application of the European convention on the suppression of terrorism by the EEC member States as amongst themselves. The agreement will not come into force until three months after it has been ratified by all the Nine member States and I cannot predict when this will be. In any event, Her Majesty's Government will continue to make use where appropriate of the extra-territorial legislation which already governs relations between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland in this respect.
Coal (Test Drilling)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what were the results of the test drilling for coal carried out in County Antrim and in County Tyrone.
In County Antrim a borehole was drilled early this year to a depth of 7,500 ft., but no coal was discovered. High temperatures were, however, recorded and geothermal measurements are to be taken to ascertain if this source of heat has any practical application to energy needs. In County Tyrone a borehole drilled at the end of 1978 at Killary Glebe near Coal island revealed four thin seams of coal at a depth of 3,500 ft., but these are not regarded as commercially exploitable.Reports on the results of the drillings may be obtained from the geological survey of Northern Ireland.
Housing Executive
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if, in view of the present composition of the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, and past appointments to the Executive of Mr. J. W. Cushnahan, a representative of the Alliance Party, and Mr. E. K. McGrady, a representative of the Social Democratic and Labour Party to balance party representation, he will now appoint a Democratic Unionist to the board to re-establish the balance of representation.
[pursuant to his reply, 10 December 1979]: At present there are nine members serving on the Housing Executive Board, which is the statutory maximum. Three members are appointed annually by the Northern Ireland Housing Council, and the others have all been appointed to serve until 31 December 1981, with the exception of the Vice-Chairman who is appointed until 30 June 1984. My right hon. Friend believes that the membership of the Board of the Executive should reflect a cross-section of viewpoints in Northern Ireland. Members of the Housing Executive Board will continue to be appointed for the personal contribution that they can make.
Social Services
Disabled Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will bring forward proposals to protect disabled people from the effects of the 40 per cent. rise in gas prices.
Increases in all fuel prices are reflected in the general index of retail prices, movements in which are taken into account in determining the annual uprating of benefits including those for disabled people. So far as supplementary benefit heating additions are concerned—the criteria for the award of which take special account of the health of beneficiaries—the right hon. Member will see from appendix G of the annual report of the Supplementary Benefits Commission for 1978, Cmnd. 7725, that they are automatically increased to take account of increases in fuel prices. The right hon. Member must direct any questions about gas price rises to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Energy.
Poliomyelitis
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will in stitute a nationwide programme to draw attention to the small proportion of the population who are adequately protected against poliomyelitis, and the danger of the disease becoming more serious and prevalent.
I am aware of estimates to the contrary, but I am advised that the present low incidence of poliomyelitis in this country, coupled with the relatively high uptake of infant immunisation, suggests that the level of immunity among the general population is quite high and that a nationwide programme would not, therefore, be appropriate.
Latchkey Children
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what funds and support his Department gives to local groups running schemes to provide for latchkey children; what research his Department is carrying out into the problems faced by latchkey children; and what steps he is taking to ensure the provision of both statutory and voluntary after-school and holiday care for latchkey children.
We fully recognise the importance of play schemes and out of-school and holiday care for latchkey children and welcome moves to improve these services. The funding of these schemes is primarily for local decision, although some central support is provided through the urban programme. For 1979–80, urban programme expenditure of over £800,000 has been approved for schemes from local authorities and voluntary organisations which include provision for latchkey children. This Department is not at present undertaking any research into the problems faced by these children.
National Health Service
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North, Official Report 8 November c. 304, how many and what percentage of the qualified medical staff held administrative appointments.
The number of doctors in non-clinical posts in the two years in question are not strictly comparable since the reorganisation of the NHS in 1974 meant that many local authority administrative medical staff who were not previously NHS employees were transferred to the NHS. The whole-time equivalent figures of doctors in non-clinical posts in England including for 1971 those estimated to have been in local authority administrative posts are as follows:
| 1971 | 1977 |
| 900 | 766 |
| 1971 | 1977 |
| 1·9 per cent. | 1·4 per cent. |
Hospital Car Services (Wessex)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of the fact that hospital car services are being withdrawn in rural parts of the Wessex region, he will provide additional resources to prevent this happening.
No. Health authorities are required to operate within cash limits and to take such decisions on the level of services provided as are necessary to achieve this.
Pneumoconiosis
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people in the area covered by the Nottinghamshire coalfields suffer from pneumoconiosis to the degree of (a) 0 to 10 per cent., (b) 10 to 20 per cent., (c) 20 to 50 per cent., (d) 50 to 90 per cent. and (e) 100 per cent.
I regret that the information is not available in the specific form requested. However, on 30 September 1977, the latest date for which information is held, 27,120 people in Great Britain were in receipt of industrial disablement pension on account of pneumoconiosis due to coalmining. The percentage assessments current at that date were as follows:
| 10 per cent. | … | … | 12,380 |
| 20–54 per cent. | … | … | 12,920 |
| 55–94 per cent. | … | … | 1,220 |
| 95–100 per cent. | … | … | 600 |
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider paying part of the pension paid to a certified pneumoconiotic to his widow when he dies, when pneumoconiosis has been a contributing factor to his death; and if he will make a statement.
A preferential widows' benefit is payable under the industrial injuries provisions where the husband dies as a result of an industrial accident or a prescribed occupational disease, including pneumoconiosis.Disablement benefit is a personal benefit payable during a person's lifetime to compensate for the extent of disablement which results from a loss of faculty caused by an industrial accident or prescribed disease.My right hon. Friend and I have no plans for introducing a change on the lines of that suggested by the hon. Member, but the point will be noted in connection with the general review of the industrial injuries scheme that is being undertaken.
Chronic Bronchitis And Emphysema
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the industrial injuries advisory council has completed its review of the schedule of prescribed diseases; and whether there is now any prospect of chronic bronchitis and emphysema being treated as an industrial disease in the coal mining industry.
There is at present in sufficient evidence to justify the prescription of either chronic bronchitis or emphysema for industrial injuiries benefit purposes. Therefore, neither of these conditions is included in the schedule of prescribed disease currently being reviewed by the industrial injuries advisory council. The council is, however, also considering whether to recommend that a system of individual proof should be introduced for claims for industrial injuries benefits. The hon. Member will appreciate that a detailed study of both these complex subjects is required to ensure that the council's recommendations are made in the light of the most up-to-date information and the widest range of expertise available. I understand that the council's consideration of the written evidence is well advanced and it is taking further oral evidence, but is not yet in a position to report.
Local Authorities (Government Controls)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many submissions his Department received in response to the Government's White Paper "Central Government Controls Over Local Authorities"; by which individuals or organisations they were made; and whether or not they were made by the appropriate deadline.
Seven submissions, four of them by the appropriate time. from the following:
Association of Directors of Social Services.
British Association of Social Workers.
National Federation of Post Office and Civil Service Pensioners.
Messrs. Burgess, Travers et al (North East London Polytechnic).
Stevenage Borough Council.
Association of County Councils.
London Borough of Islington.
Diabetes
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied that an increase of 15p per week in the allowances that are paid to sufferers from diabetes is adequate, in view of recent 20 per cent. increases in the special foods required by sufferers; and what proposals he has for increasing the special benefits paid to diabetics.
The supplementary benefit scale rates cover normal day-to-day living expenses, including food. The two standard rates of dietary addition are in recognition of the extra cost that may be incurred in replacing normal food with more expensive alternatives. The dietary additions were fixed in 1966 on the basis of medical science, and are increased each year in line with movements in the food component of the retail price index. Both the scale rates and the dietary additions were increased from 12 November. The standard rate for diabetes was increased by 25p to £2·50 a week.
Prescription Charges
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what further steps he has taken to improve the situation for parents of children suffering from cystic fibrosis or for sufferers of long-term illnesses requiring relief from the normal course of prescription charges since the Adjournment debate of the hon. Member for Burton on 25 October
I wrote to my hon. Friend on 10 December explaining why we have decided, at this stage not to seek discussions with the medical profession with a view to adding cystic fibrosis, or any other conditions, to the list of specified medical conditions.
Mentally Iii Patients
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many patients are at present living in (a) mental illness hospitals and (b) mental handicap hospitals who could be discharged if suitable residential accommodation was available within the community.
It is for the responsible consultant to decide when a patient is suitable for discharge from a mental illness or mental handicap hospital to the community. Statistics concerning such patients are not held centrally.
Junior Medical Staff
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what safeguards exist to prevent junior medical staff when applying for jobs from being discriminated against because they will not perform abortions.
The chief medical officer said in a letter dated 16 July 1979 to health authorities that, because junior medical staff are not required to undertake duties involving termination of pregnancy for training purposes, they should not be questioned about their attitude to these prior to their appointment.
Contraceptive Devices
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider the compulsory labelling of the packaging of contraceptive devices with a note of the estimated failure rate of that particular brand and form of device.
The effectiveness of a particular form of contraception is closely related to the way it is used. With this in mind I would expect, as regards the family planning services provided under the National Health Service Act, which are my right hon. Friend's responsibility, the failure rate of particular forms of birth control to be among the issues discussed by the general practitioner or family planning clinic doctor consulted.
Psychiatric Hospitals (South-West Thames Health Region)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the funded nursing staff establishments, and the numbers of psychogeriatric and other patients, in each of the psychiatric hospitals in the South-West Thames health region.
This information is not available centrally. My hon. Friend may like to approach the regional health authority direct.
Disabled Persons (Local Care Groups)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations the Minister for Health has received on the need for quick and easy access for local care groups when aids for sick and disabled people are needed in times of emergency; what action has resulted; and if he will make a statement.
The right hon. Gentleman wrote to me earlier this year about the cases of two of his constituents who had had difficulty in obtaining urgently needed aids—which were in fact provided following the intervention with the health and local authorities of the organiser of a local group of volunteers.In my reply on 27 November I in formed the right hon. Gentleman that the Manchester area health authority (teaching) and the City of Manchester social services department had agreed, in the light of these cases, on the need to develop a joint policy for the provision of aids in patients' homes following discharge from hospital. A small working party set up by the area health authority (teaching) to consider these problems and make recommendations has submitted its report to the joint care planning team, which is responsible for matters of common interest between the health and personal social services. As a result of this report, the area health authority (teaching) and the social services department have now agreed on the division of responsibility between them for supplying aids and on a revision of procedure to enable the staff concerned to obtain aids from hospitals with the minimum of delay.Generally it is the health and social services authorities which are responsible for supplying aids and for making the arrangements necessary to meet emergency needs. I am pleased that in the case of Manchester, the right hon. Gentleman's representations to me have had such a positive result.
Family Income Supplement
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in each of the last five years, what has been the self-employed uptake of family income supplement in each of the following categories: with one child, two, three, four and more than four children.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Neonatal Deaths (Inquiries)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consideration he has given to the case for confidential inquiries into all neonatal deaths; if he will consult the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists on whether such inquiries are now practical on a regional basis; how many health authorities already carry out their own investigations into every neonatal death; and if he will make a statement.
I shall let the right hon. Gentleman have a reply as soon as possible.
Child Benefit
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to announce his decision concerning the uprating of child benefit in April; and if he will take steps to index-link child benefit with inflation rates, as with other social security benefits, in the future.
A decision whether to announce a proposal to uprate child benefit will be made after I have conducted the annual review required by statute. I have no proposals to amend the provisions in the Child Benefit Act 1975 dealing with the uprating of child benefit.
Benefits (Inflation-Proofing)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if his Departsions he has had, and with whom, concerning the statutory improvements of social security benefits in line with inflation; and if he will confirm that no changes are planned in this regard.
The levels of social security benefits are a matter of continuing concern to any Government, and Ministers regularly receive and consider representations on these matters. I have nothing to add to the proposals embodied in the Social Security Bill now before the House.
Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Sheffield
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, if his Department will provide special funding for the work being carried out at Royal Hallamshire hospital in Sheffield into the use of a machine to knit broken bones by electrical induction; and if he will make a statement.
I understand that the orthopaedic department at the Royal Hallamshire hospital has been undertaking research into the use of an electronic machine for facilitating the knitting of broken bones. The research study is due to be completed at the end of this year. If a request were made by the Sheffield AHA(T) to the Trent RHA for special funds for this service, I am sure that it would be considered, though account would, of course, have to be taken of other competing priorities and the overall financial climate in the Health Service.
Services For Alcoholics (Funding)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he will announce the result of his review of funding for services for alcoholics; and if he will make a statement.
I refer the hon. Member to my reply of 10 December to the hon. Member for Hammersmith, North (Mr. Soley).—[Vol, 975, c. 480-1.]
Departmental Services
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services which of the services currently carried out by his Department he proposes to transfer to the private sector as a result of proposed cuts in the Civil Service; how many staff will be saved in each case, and at what cost; and how much it will cost to have those services carried out by the private sector.
None, at present
Social Security Administration
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list those measures he proposed to take to improve efficiency and simplify procedures in social security administration; how much these measures will save; and what the reduction in manpower will be.
We look to a general improvement in efficiency for savings of the equivalent of 800 posts—3·6 million by April 1983. These savings will come from such things as staff suggestions, management service studies, economy in the use of services and so on. Our experience with similar efficiency drives in the past suggests this is a reasonable target. In addition, there are two specific procedural changes, which together I expect to produce savings of 550 posts over the period 1980–81 and 1981–82. These are (i) an improvement of existing arrangements for paying supplementary benefit in advance of unemployment benefit which are expensive both in staff and administrative costs and (ii) the cessation of postal inquiries relating to changes in the circumstances of people receiving supplementary benefit. This form of inquiry has already been suspended in this financial year and no serious problems have arisen.
Take-Up Of Benefits
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated take-up for free milk, free prescriptions, remission of optical and dental charges, and payments of fares to hospital; and what steps he is taking to bring these benefits to the attention of those eligible for them.
[pursuant to his reply, 29 June 1979, c. 362–63]: The corrected information is as follows. I regret that the estimated number stated to be eligible at December 1976 in Great Britain, for free welfare milk tokens on low income grounds, other than supplementary benefit or FIS, was incorrectly given as 1,518,000 This should have been 500,000, and the percentage take-up figure for this category 2·5 per cent. rather than 0·8 per cent.
Wales
Seiont Bridge
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the route selected for the Seiont bridge.
My right hon. Friend has chosen as the preferred route that which was described in the "orange route" in the public participation exercise into improvement possibilities at Seiont bridge.
Welsh Office (Manpower)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many persons were employed by the Welsh Office on 1 May; how many persons were employed by the Welsh Office on 1 December; and how many persons are to be employed by the Welsh Office by 1 May 1980 and 1 May 1981.
2,701 and 2,544 on 1 May and 1 December 1979 respectively. It is not yet possible to say precisely how many will be employed on 1 May 1980 and 1 May 1981.
Technical Services Organisation
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much expenditure on capital schemes exceeding £150,000 was charged to the accounts of the Welsh Health Technical Services Organisation for the years 1978–79 and 1979–80.
£9·608 million in 1978–79. Figures for 1979–80 are not yet available.
Societies And Associations (Grants)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much money he proposes to grant to (a) Mudiad Ysgolion Meithrin and (b) the Welsh Playgroups Association for the years 1979–80 and 1980–81.
Grants to Mudiad Ysgolion Meithrin in 1979–80 will total £95,000. Grant to the Pre-School Play groups Association (Wales Region) will be £43,000. No decisions have been taken about grants for 1980–81.
Welsh History (Tuition)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he is satisfied with the range and availability of tuition on Welsh history in secondary and primary schools; and if there are any changes proposed to the curricula and examination.
Two reports by Her Majesty's inspectorate in Wales published by the Welsh Office this year indicated a need for more attention to be paid to the teaching of Welsh history within the history syllabus as a whole.Responsibility for the curriculum rests largely with the local education authorities, and examinations in Wales are primarily a matter for the Welsh joint education committee. The Government will be seeking next year to secure a national consensus on the desirable frame work for the curriculum within which authorities and schools will want to consider the place of Welsh history.
Housing Need
asked the Secretary of State for Wales, pursuant to the reply, Official Report, 18 June, column 382, how his Department makes an accurate assessment of housing needs.
Local housing need is assessed by Welsh local authorities in their housing strategy and investment programmes which are submitted annually to the Welsh Office. These take account of the household/dwelling balance, existing stock, condition of dwellings, population projections, and age distribution of population.
Industry
Waste Collection
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much it cost to produce the document "Save and Recycle—Directory of Waste Collections" and "A Guide to Voluntary Waste Collection"; what check was made before names and addresses were given in the first one of these that they were willing to co-operate in the programme; and what evidence he has to indicate that the time, effort and expense involved in producing these brochures has been justified.
The cost of producing the brochures, including reprints to date, was £5,210 and £14,989 respectively. I understand that the information in the Directory of Waste Collections dealing with voluntary organisations was published with the agreement of the organisations concerned. The information on local authority waste paper collections was based on an official survey in 1976–77. The directory is designed to inform interested people of waste collections in their area and helps both to stimulate public co-operation in such schemes and to avoid duplication. The original national edition is now being replaced by smaller regional editions, thus reducing costs. The guide to voluntary waste collection provides essential in formation and advice for organisations that are considering starting a waste collection. There has been a steady demand for copies of these publications which suggests that the cost of producing them has been justified.
National Enterprise Board
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what request he has made to the chairman of the National Enterprise Board concerning the disposal of £100 million of assets in the current financial year; what reply he has received; and if he will make a statement.
No specific request has been made to the new chairman who accepted appointment in the full knowledge of the position outlined in my right hon. Friend's statement of 19 July.
Ferranti Limited
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what steps he is taking to ensure that there will be no loss of employment at Ferranti, and at its Dundee factory in particular where 500 jobs are at stake, in the event of the National Enterprise Board selling its shareholding in the company.
Any disposals the NEB makes will be subject to the interests of the company.
Departmental Services
asked the Secretary of State for Industry which of the services currently carried out by his Department he proposes to transfer to the private sector as a result of proposed cuts in the Civil Service; how many staff will be saved in each case, and at what cost; and how much it will cost to have those services carried out by the private sector.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what reductions in statistical, establishment and support services he is planning as a result of proposed cuts in the Civil Service.
The reductions planned in the statistical services of my Department are 172 staff and in the establishment and support services, 287 staff.
National Maritime Institute
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much will be saved in manpower and costs by the conversion of the National Maritime Institute into a non-governmental research association.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Industry Schemes
asked the Secretary of State for Industry which industry schemes he proposes to wind up.
None. As my right hon. Friend announced on 17 July the three Industry Act schemes still open for applications—for the footwear industry, the red meat slaughterhouses industry and energy conservation—will run their course. In addition the microelectronics industry support programme and the microprocessor application project are continuing.
Engineering Profession (Finniston Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he expects to publish the report of the Finniston committee into the engineering profession.
I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to the hon. Member for Nelson and Colne (Mr. Lee), on 21 November.—[Vol. 974, c. 250.]
Rolls-Royce
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will explain how and when he became aware, as stated in the letter to him from Sir Kenneth Keith, the text of which was given in his answer of 10 December to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Ardwick, of the reasons why, in the view of the board of Rolls-Royce, it would be much better for it to be responsible to the Secretary of State direct and to deal with his officials than to remain under the National Enterprise Board.
Shortly after taking office, I became aware of difficulties in the relationship between Rolls-Royce and the NEB; this issue was the subject of press comment in June. However, Sir Kenneth Keith's letter of 4 October was the first time I was formally told that it was the view of the board of Rolls-Royce that ownership of the company should be transferred back to the Department.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the date of the letter to him from Sir Kenneth Keith, the text of which was given in his answer of 10 December to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Ardwick; whether he replied to that letter; and, if he replied, if he will publish that reply, with date, in the Official Report.
The letter from Sir Kenneth Keith, the text of which was given in my answer of 10 December was dated 4 October 1979. I replied to that letter on 19 October as follows:
"Thank you for your letter of 4 October about the relationship between Rolls-Royce, the NEB and HMG.
I have noted what you say and will certainly bear in mind the view of the Rolls-Royce Board"
asked the Secretary of State for Industry when and where Sir Kenneth Keith had the excellent talk with the Minister of State, Department of Industry, the hon. Member for Bosworth (Mr. Butler), to which he refers in his letter to the Secretary of State for Industry published in the answer given on 10 December to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Ardwick; whether Sir Leslie Murphy or some other representative of the National Enterprise Board was present at this talk or advised in advance of it; what other meetings with Sir Kenneth Keith have been held since 4 May by the hon. Member for Bosworth or any other Minister of State or Under-Secretary of State at the Department of Industry with dates, places and reasons of meetings; and whether Sir Leslie Murphy or some other representative of the National Enterprise Board was present at, or advised in advance of, any of these meetings.
My hon. Friend the Minister of State met Sir Kenneth Keith for lunch at Rolls-Royce's office on 4 October 1979. This was one of a number of meetings undertaken by the Minister of State with the chairmen of public sector manufacturing concerns falling within his responsibilities in order to familiarise himself with the problems of those concerns. The NEB was not consulted beforehand; neither Sir Leslie Murphy nor any other representative of the NEB was present at the lunch. No other meeting, apart from this and those described in my answer of 10 December has taken place between Ministers of my Department and Sir Kenneth Keith since 4 May.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if Sir Leslie Murphy was informed (a) in advance or (b) after-wards of his lunch with Sir Kenneth Keith at Rolls-Royce's office on 19 September, as distinct from the visit to Derby which it replaced; if Sir Leslie was informed in advance whether he agreed to it; and, if Sir Leslie was informed after-wards, when.
As I said in my answer on 10 December, Sir Leslie Murphy was present when I received an invitation to visit Derby. I did not therefore consider it necessary to inform him of the changed arrangements necessitated by the industrial dispute in the engineering industry.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether it was to himself that Sir Frank McFadzean first indicated his willingness to accept the chairmanship of Rolls-Royce.
Yes.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) whether, in addition to the potential chairman, to whom he referred in the first full paragraph of column 168 of the Official Report of Standing Committee E for 27 November, he sounded out any other persons as potential chairmen of Rolls-Royce; and if so, how many;(2) whether the potential chairman of Rolls-Royce, to whom he referred in the first full paragraph of column 168 of the
Official Report of Standing Committee E for 27 November, was Sir Frank McFadzean, a member of the present Rolls-Royce board, or someone else.
I confirm that my reference in Standing Committee E to a "potential chairman of Rolls-Royce" was to Sir Frank McFadzean who was the only person I invited to consider the appointment.
North Of England Development Council
asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether, in view of the misrepresentation of the objectives of the North of England Development Council in the Cooper and Lybrand report, he will discard the report's findings and institute a further inquiry into the council's activities.
[pursuant to his reply, 12 December 1979]: The report by Coopers and Lybrand Associates Ltd. is still being considered within the Department. It would not, of course, be appropriate to take any action on the report until our consideration is complete.
Multi-Fibre Arrangement
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has received the British Textile Confedera- tion's critique of the multi-fibre arrangement; and if he will make a statement on the report in the light of that critique.
I shall reply to myhon. Friend as soon as possible.
Pig Iron
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what estimate he has made of the impact on home production of pig iron imports over the next two years.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what was the percentage of the domestic pig iron market supplied by imports in each of the years from 1973.
The information is as follows:
| Imports as a Percentage of United Kingdom Pig Iron Consumption | |||||
| 1973 | … | … | … | … | 0·7 |
| 1974 | … | … | … | … | 0·8 |
| 1975 | … | … | … | … | 0·6 |
| 1976 | … | … | … | … | 1·2 |
| 1977 | … | … | … | … | 1·2 |
| 1978 | … | … | … | … | 1·1 |
Scotland
Leukaemia
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the admission rates for leukaemia for the West of Scotland, and particularly island areas, for three years preceding the Windscale development and in the years following the Windscale reprocessing production to date.
Cancer registration was not started until 1959, three years after Windscale opened; and data for the period since reprocessing began in 1977 are not available.
Committee Membership
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish in the Official Report the names of members who have been replaced on committees for which he has responsibility.
Since I took office, the persons listed below have completed their periods of service without being re-appointed.
| Body | Appointee | |||||||
| Aberdeen and District Milk Marketing Board | … | … | W. Wyllie. | |||||
| Advisory Committee on Distinction Awards | … | … | … | Sir John Crofton | ||||
| Ancient Monuments Board for Scotland | … | … | … | R. B. K. Stevenson | ||||
| B. R. S. Megaw | ||||||||
| R. M. Orr | ||||||||
| Dr. A. J. Taylor | ||||||||
| Professor E. L. G. Stones | ||||||||
| Children's Panel Advisory Committee: | ||||||||
| Grampain Region | … | … | … | … | … | … | Miss E. M. Holmes—Chairman | |
| Lothian Region | … | … | … | … | … | … | J. Hoey | |
| Aberdeen College of Education | … | … | … | … | … | Mrs. M. Klopper | ||
| Mr. W. P. Reid | ||||||||
| Board of Governors: Callendar Park College of Education | … | Mr. N. McFeat | ||||||
| Board of Governors: Craigie College of Education | … | … | Miss E. Mclntyre | |||||
| Board of Governors: Craiglockhart College of Education | … | Lady Wheatley | ||||||
| Board of Governors: Dundee College of Education | … | … | Miss E. M. Laburn | |||||
| Major A. E. Larg | ||||||||
| Board of Governors: Dunfermline College of Physical Education | Mr. R. N. Adams | |||||||
| Board of Governors: Hamilton College of Education | … | Mrs. A. Jarvie | ||||||
| Mr. C. C. Brownlie | ||||||||
| Mr. G. S. Deas | ||||||||
| Board of Governors: Jordanhill College of Education | … | Mr. A. Christianson | ||||||
| Miss N. Nairn | ||||||||
| Board of Governors: Moray House College of Education | … | Mr. J. R. McLaren | ||||||
| Mr. J. Farquharson | ||||||||
| Board of Governors: Notre Dame College of Education | … | Mr. F. McCormick | ||||||
| Mrs. S. Girot | ||||||||
| Commission for Local Authority Accounts in Scotland | … | The Rt. Hon. T. Fraser—Chairman | ||||||
| Cumbernauld Licensing Planning Committee | … | … | … | J. Mellick—Chairman | ||||
| Eggs Authority | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | J. Lamotte |
| R. P. Voelcker | ||||||||
| General Practice Finance Corporation | … | … | … | … | W. D. M. Pollock—Deputy Chairman | |||
| Glasgow School of Art—Governing Body | … | … | … | Mrs. M. K. Holmes | ||||
| Grassland Research Institute—Governing Body | … | … | A. Evans | |||||
| Professor T. K. Ewer | ||||||||
| Professor I. A. M. Lucas | ||||||||
| Highlands and Islands Development Board | … | … | … | A. Forman | ||||
| Historic Buildings Council for Scotland | … | … | … | W. A. P. Jack | ||||
| Home-Grown Cereals Authority | … | … | … | … | O. G. Williams | |||
| S. Shaw | ||||||||
| J. Stobo | ||||||||
| F. S. D. Brown | ||||||||
| J. R. Crawford | ||||||||
| Leith Nautical College—Governing Body | … | … | … | G. F. Robertson | ||||
| National Vegetable Research Station—Governing Body | … | Professor D. L. Lee | ||||||
| Plant Varieties—Seeds Tribunal | … | … | … | … | … | J R Thomson | ||
| Police Advisory Board for Scotland | … | … | … | … | W. A. Gay | |||
| Potato Marketing Board | … | … | … | … | … | … | A. I. Annand | |
| B. Hazell | ||||||||
| Queen Margaret College—Governing Body | … | … | … | A. R. Jones | ||||
| Rent Assessment Panel for Scotland | … | … | … | … | Aberdeen area | |||
| Very Reverend Dean William C. Gow | ||||||||
| H. R. Keay | ||||||||
| L. Bruce Nicholson | ||||||||
| T. J. Smith | ||||||||
| J. Stewart | ||||||||
| Glasgow area | ||||||||
| J. Paterson | ||||||||
| Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama | … | … | T.Wilson | |||||
| Scottish Sports Council | … | … | … | … | … | … | Councillor T. Mackenzie | |
| Councillor B. M. Scott | ||||||||
| Councillor Mrs. M. B. Russell | ||||||||
| Miss Jean Carroll | ||||||||
| Mrs. I. Lang Brown | ||||||||
| Scottish Hospital Trust | … | … | … | … | … | … | I. C. Low | |
| Scottish Special Housing Association—Council of Management | J. R. Watson | |||||||
| R.S. Kerr | ||||||||
| Scottish Tourist Board | … | … | … | … | … | … | R.MacDonald | |
| White Fish Authority Committee for Scotland and Northern Ireland | R.MacFarquhar | |||||||
Value Added Tax
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland why, in view of the fact that it was possible for the Department of Health and Social Security to make an estimate of the cost to regional health authorities in England of increased value added tax, it was not possible for his Department to make such an estimate for health boards in Scotland without disproportionate cost.
Health boards do not account separately for VAT and without a special analysis of each board's expenditure, which could be done only at disproportionate cost, no precise estimate can be given. Broad ranges of cost can be calculated by reference to boards' expenditure last year and figures on this basis are set out in the following table. The difference between the total £7-£7·7 million and the estimate of £8 million given in my right hon. Friend's reply to the right hon. Member for Lanarkshire, North (Mr. Smith) on 29 November 1979 is attributable to NHS expenditure incurred other than by the health boards.
| ESTIMATED COST OF INCREASED VAT | ||||
| £ thousand | ||||
| Argyll and Clyde | … | 460 | — | 510 |
| Ayrshire and Arran | … | 290 | — | 320 |
| Borders | … | 135 | — | 150 |
| Dumfries and Galloway | … | 140 | — | 155 |
| Fife | … | 307 | — | 337 |
| Forth Valley | … | 300 | — | 330 |
| Grampian | … | 640 | — | 710 |
| Greater Glasgow | … | 2,000 | — | 2,200 |
| Highland | … | 260 | — | 285 |
| Lanarkshire | … | 495 | — | 540 |
| Lothian | … | 1,235 | — | 1,365 |
| Orkney | … | 12 | — | 14 |
| Shetland | … | 20 | — | 22 |
| Tayside | … | 700 | — | 770 |
| Western Isles | … | 34 | — | 38 |
| 7,028 | 7,746 | |||
Transport
M5 (Contract)
asked the Minister of Transport if he will indicate the percentage and amount by which claim 14 of the M5 motorway contract, when revalued by Messrs. Corderoy at the request of his Department, differed from the figures presented by Freeman Fox and Partners; and when he proposes to go to arbitration to resolve the dispute over the final settlement of the claims.
The hon. Member will recall that the M5 motorway contract was the subject of a report—HC 18–to the House in November 1975 by the Department of the Environment. The earlier stages of the investigation of this matter established that there had been no improper conduct, and the only matter outstanding has been the amount payable under claim 14 of the contract, to which he now refers.As a cross-check on this claim a special assessment was commissioned from Messrs. Corderoy. Messrs. Corderoy's assessment is about 7 per cent.—£111,000—less than the comparable sum for earthworks and claim 14 included by the Engineer in his final account. It should, however, be noted that although the independent valuation has been based upon assumptions which appear reasonable and is consistent with the best professional opinion and practice, no precision in these matters is possible; nor was an identical result anticipated.I draw two inferences. First, the public interest has been conscientiously served by Mr. Neil James' action in bringing his concern in this matter to the attention of the Department in the first place and then to that of the hon. Member and that of my right hon. Friend the Member for Gloucester (Mrs. Oppenheim) with the result that this further assessment has been made and examined.Secondly, however, the difference between the assessment and the amount included by the Engineer in the claim is not such as to justify the expenditure of further public money in an attempt, which would be unlikely to succeed, to substitute for the latter a reduced payment to the contractor. I do not propose to take the matter any further.
Severn Bridge
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what, on the basis of the latest technical information available to him, is the life expectancy of the Severn bridge.
In common with all new highway bridges built for the Department, the bridge is designed for a life of at least 120 years and it will be maintained to meet this requirement.
asked the Secretary of State for Transport what progress, if any, has been made in consideration of the need for a second Severn bridge.
I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Buckingham (Mr. Benyon) on 26 October.—[Vol. 972, c. 324.]
Road Construction
asked the Minister of Transport what were the planned figures in Cmnd. 7049 for English motorway and trunk road construction in 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81 in 1979 survey prices; what were the planned figures for that budget for those years following the June expenditure cuts; what are the planned figures following the expenditure cuts in Cmnd. 7746; and what is the presently expected outturn for each of those years, all figures at 1979 survey prices.
The planned figures in Cmnd. 7049 for motorway and trunk road construction in England for the years 1978–79, 1979–80 and 1980–81 were equivalent to £364 million, £363 million and £363 million respectively.For 1978–79 the outturn was some £280 million or 23 per cent. below the level planned in Cmnd. 7049. The plans for 1979–80 were revised in Cmnd. 7439 to a figure equivalent to £328 million. This was reduced by £8 million in the previous Administration's Estimates and a further £8 million in the June Budget. The out-turn is subject to some uncertainty but is currently expected to be about £291 million, approximately 11 per cent. below the level originally planned for that year in Cmnd. 7439. The amount available for 1980–81 was also revised in Cmnd. 7439 and again in Cmnd. 7746 and is currently set at £312 million. I have no reason at this stage to expect that expenditure will fall short of provision in 1980–81.All the above figures are at 1979 survey prices.
asked the Minister of Transport, in view of the fact that over 99 per cent. of all food, drink and tobacco is carried by road, what effect the slow down in the trunk and local road programme will have on the cost of these items.
The slow-down in the trunk and local road programme will not, in general, have a noticeable effect on the prices of these everyday items.
Salary Advances
asked the Minister of Transport why his Department will give an advance of salary at Christmas only if severe hardship is proved.
Last year we offered all junior staff this facility. So few took advantage of it that I do not think it worth repeating this year.
M42 Motorway
asked the Minister of Transport what is the present estimated expenditure for the construction of the Curdworth to Castle Donington section of the proposed M42 motorway by year.
The estimated expenditure by year will depend on the timing of the scheme and this is subject to the current review of the trunk road programme in the context of public expenditure restraints.
Environment
Salary Advances
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment why his Department will give an advance of salary at Christmas only if severe hardship is proved.
The take-up rate on the advances offered in 1978 was only 3·6 per cent. and I considered that this did not indicate sufficient interest to justify continuation of the scheme.
Telford Development Corporation
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on what date he considers that the Telford development corporation should be wound up; whether he has plans to alter again the targets of the new town of Telford; and if he is not yet able to announce decisions upon his review when he hopes to be able to do so.
The current targets for Telford foresee the end of induced growth in the middle of the 1980s. One of the purposes of our present examination of the new towns is to see whether these targets should be retained. I hope that the examination will be completed early in the new year.
Adamson Containers, Stockport
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that Adamson Containers has complied with the special conditions imposed by his Department on its planning permission for its new factory in Reddish, Stockport.
The decision letter conveying planning permission to Adamson & Hatchett Ltd. for its new factory in Reddish imposed 17 conditions most of which had previously been proposed by the local planning authority and accepted by the appellants.
Unrebated Rates
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his latest estimate of the average unrebated rates paid by recipients of rate rebates, distinguishing between single people, married couples and married couples with two and four children.
Following is the available information:Average weekly unrebated rates of rate rebate recipients in the financial year 1978–79 (first three quarters):
| England Wales | |
| £ | |
| Single person | 1·80 |
| Married couple with no dependent children | 1·80 |
| Married couple with two dependent children | 2·45 |
Council House Sales (Proceeds)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what modified provisions he intends to introduce to allow housing authorities to use the proceeds from the sale of council houses for the acquisition of additional housing stock.
I refer the hon. Member to the recent consultation papers entitled "Capital Expenditure Controls" and "The Right to Buy", copies of which have been placed in the Library. In Wales, my right hon. Friend has responsibility for this matter.
Underground Mine Workings (Derbyshire)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that no phenolic or dioxin poison is leaking into the underground mine workings in Morton, Derbyshire.
It is for Derbyshire county council, as waste disposal authority, to ensure that no danger to public health or pollution of water arises from licensed disposal activities. I am informed, however, that there are no grounds for this fear.
Toxic And Hazardous Waste
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that no phenolic or dioxin poison is leaking into Ogston reservoir, Derbyshire.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he is satisfied that there is no possibility of phenolic or dioxin or other pollution of the water supply in the Morton area:(2) if he is satisfied that no polluted water has been pumped into streams, and thus the water table, in the Morton area.
Yes; on the basis of advice from the regional water authorities concerned.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will establish an inspectorate to monitor the tipping of toxic and hazardous wastes;(2) if he is satisfied that the system of regulation and licensing of the tipping of toxic and hazardous waste in the United Kingdom is adequate, and that the legislation is complied with adequately.
The Deposit of Poisonous Waste Act 1972 and the Control of Pollution Act 1974 provide a comprehensive system of control. There is no evidence to suggest that it is not working adequately.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether any radio-active waste has been tipped at, or in the vicinity of, Morton.
No.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether hazardous waste of any nature is imported into the United Kingdom to be dumped at, or in the vicinity of, Morton;(2) which toxic wastes have been dumped at Morton; and where they came from.
I do not have this information. The types and quantities of waste are governed by the terms of the disposal licence granted by Derbyshire county council, regardless of their origin.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that Derbyshire county council has fulfilled its obligations under the Control of Pollution Act and planning legislation in relation to the toxic waste tips in North-East Derbyshire.
On the evidence available to me I am satisfied that the county council is fulfilling its obligations under the Control of Pollution Act and planning legislation; however I understand that the Local Commissioner for Administration is at present considering several matters in relation to a waste disposal site at Morton Road, Stretton.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make an order prohibiting tipping at Morton and providing for the sealing-off of the area.
No.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is satisfied that the conditions of the licence for the tipping of hazardous, toxic waste at Morton have not been broken.
It is for Derbyshire county council, as waste disposal authority, to enforce licence conditions.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether dioxin waste has been dumped at, or in the vicinity of, Morton; and if so when, where, how much and where it came from.
I do not have this information.
Housing Finance (Tax Reliefs And Subsidies)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what has been the level of mortgage interest tax relief for each year since 1970, including the present year, assuming an interest rate of 15 per cent.; what has been the level for council tenant subsidies, supplementary benefit rent subsidies or subsidies to private tenants for each of these years; and what has been the average amount per person in each of these categories for each of these years.
I shall write to the hon. Member.
Departmental Services
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment which of the services currently carried out by his Department he proposes to transfer to the private sector as a result of proposed cuts in the Civil Service; how many staff will be saved in each case, and at what cost; and how much it will cost to have those services carried out by the private sector.
I shall answer this question shortly.
Housing And Planning Procedures
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how he plans to simplify the housing and planning procedures; and how much this will save.
I shall answer this question shortly.
Research Organisation And Programmes
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what changes in research organisation and programmes he is proposing in order to save manpower.
I shall answer this question shortly.
Economic Planning Councils
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he proposes to disband the economic planning councils and other fringe bodies; if he will list the fringe bodies concerned; and how much he estimates this will save; and what other reductions in functions and support services he is proposing to save manpower.
I shall answer this question shortly.
Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what recent representations he has received about the Housing (Homeless Persons) Act 1977; whether he is satisfied with the working of the Act; and if he will make a statement.
The local authority associations and the voluntary organisations concerned have been asked for their views on the operation of the Act but I have not yet received all their replies. I have also received representations from certain individual local authorities. My right hon. Friend will decide in the light of the views expressed whether the Act is operating satisfactorily.
Rate Support Grant
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how much money has been included in the rate support grant settlement to facilitate the Government's policy on council house purchase.
The rate support grant is a block grant and is not directly related to any particular item of expenditure.
Housing Association Houses (Sale)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has concluded his deliberations on giving a right of purchase to housing association ten ants; and if he will make a statement.
I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Swindon (Mr. Stoddart) on 12 December.—[Vol. 975, c. 1294.]
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Farmers (Working Capital)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list in the Official Report the differing methods by which each member Government of the EEC ensures the availability of working capital for their farmers and the current terms upon which such capital is provided.
Where EEC member Governments directly support credit, the aim is usually to encourage specific forms of investment. The details of the individual schemes are rather lengthy, and
| EEC COMMON PRICES, UNITED KINGDOM INTERVENTION AND FARM-GATE PRICES AND THIRD COUNTRYOFFER PRICES AT END NOVEMBER 1979 | ||||||||
| £/Tonne | ||||||||
| Common EEC intervention price* | United Kingdom intervention price† | United Kingdom farm-gate, market price or nearest equivalent | National third country offer price‡ | |||||
| Wheat | … | … | … | … | 101 | 91 | 99§ | 83 |
| Barley | … | … | … | … | 101 | 91 | 95§ | 78 |
| Butter | … | … | … | … | 1,855 | 1,675 | 1,807 | 470 |
| Beef (deadweight) | … | … | 1,606¶ | 1,450¶ | 1,380 | 1,010 | ||
| Lamb— | ||||||||
| Chilled | … | … | … | na | na | 1080┡** | na | |
| Frozen | … | … | … | na | na | 1,139┡** | 950 | |
| Cheese—cheddar type | … | na | na | 1,490┡ | 510 | |||
| Notes: | ||||||||
| * There is no EEC farm-gate buying-in price. These prices are the common intervention prices in ECUs converted to sterling at the spot rate of exchange as at 30 November 1979. | ||||||||
| † There is no United Kingdom farm-gate buying-in price; intervention takes place at different stages beyond the farm gate for different commodities. The common intervention price has been converted to sterling at the green rate. | ||||||||
| ‡ The national third country offer price is taken as the EEC support price minus the common levy, expressed in ECUs and converted to sterling at the spot rate of exchange at 30 November, except in the case of frozen lamb where the third country offer price is the average Smithfield price of New Zealand lamb minus the duty. | ||||||||
| § These prices are not directly comparable with the intervention prices because of the costs involved in transporting cereals to intervention stores. | ||||||||
| ┡ There are no farm-gate prices for these items; wholesale prices have been quoted. | ||||||||
| ¶ here are no intervention purchases of hindquarters or manufactured beef, but only of carcases, sides and compensated quarters. Prices quoted are for beef carcases. | ||||||||
| ** Normally chilled lamb is dearer than frozen, but United Kingdom market prices for lambs have been low recently and this is reflected in the chilled lamb price. | ||||||||
Green Pound
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take steps within the Council of Ministers to ensure that the green pound is index-linked to the £ sterling in order to avoid the current fluctuations in the real value of the green pound.
Such a link would be likely to mean frequent small changes I am therefore sending them to my hon. Friend.
Food Prices
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish a table showing spot prices, at the EEC farm-gate buying-in price, the United Kingdom farm-gate buying-in price, the United Kingdom farm-gate market price, and the world price, of: wheat, barley, butter, hindquarter chilled beef, manufacturing beef, chilled lamb, frozen lamb, and cheddar-type cheese.
I regret that in formation in the form requested cannot be provided. The nearest available figures are given below.in the level of farm prices expressed in sterling and I do not think this would be practicable. In any case, the movement of sterling against the European currency unit, especially in the short term, does not necessarily reflect relative rates of inflation.
Farmers (Bankruptcies)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food, if the minimum lending rate remains at 17 per cent. indefinitely, what is his estimate of the number of British farmers who will go bankrupt in the next year.
I do not accept my hon. Friend's premise or the consequence he postulates.
Agricultural Development And Advisory Service
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food when he expects to announce a decision about the future level of financial support for the services provided by the Agricultural Development and Advisory Service.
The White Paper on the Government's expenditure plans for 1980–81–Cmnd. 7746–shows that planned expenditure for that year on the agricultural programme allows for a modest increase over the expected outturn for 1979–80. Details of the provision made for particular services will appear in due course when the Supply Estimates for 1980–81 are submitted in the usual way.
Red Meat Industry Scheme
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he is aware of the delay experienced by applicants for grant aid under the red meat industry scheme in obtaining approval of their applications; and whether he will take steps to expedite the consideration of all such applications.
The rules of the scheme require the financial and technical validity of the application to be established before grant is offered. While this must take some time, I am not aware of any undue delay in the processing of applications. I am writing to my hon. and learned Friend about the case he raised with me.