Written Answers To Questions
Tuesday 6 May 1980
Overseas Development
Turkey
asked the Lord Privy Seal how the proposed £15 million aid to Turkey is to be distributed.
The £15 million programme aid loan which Her Majesty's Government pledged at the recent OECD meeting will be available for purchase of United Kingdom products conducive to the economic, commercial and industrial development of Turkey.
Employment
Trade Union Law
asked the Secretary of State for Employment on how many occasions he has written to the Confederation of British Industry concerning changes in the law relating to trades unions; and whether he has also written to the Institute of Directors on the same occasions.
My right hon. Friend has consulted both the Confederation of British Industry and the Institute of Directors on all the working papers we have published on our proposals for changing the law on industrial relations. My right hon. Friend has also had discussions and corresponded with both organisations on various issues arising from their comments on the working papers and subsequently on the Employment Bill. My right hon. Friend will be meeting representatives of the Institute of Directors again later this month to discuss further points it has raised about the law on industrial relations.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department.
The total annual cost of training of non-industrial staff employed in the Department of Employment group in the training year ended July 1979 has been assessed as £15 million. This covers training internally at the Civil Service college and externally. Salary and accommodation costs of the students themselves are included, but travel and subsistence costs related to staff training were not readily available and are excluded.The estimated expenditure in 1979–80 of the training services division of the Manpower Services Commission is £328 million, of which £98 million relates to training in industry and £230 million to the training opportunities scheme run by the MSC itself.
Preston
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many notified vacancies existed in the Preston travel-to-work area at the latest known date.
At 2 April the numbers of notified vacancies remaining unfilled at employment offices and careers offices in the Preston travel-to-work area were 933 and 66, respectively, Vacancies notified to employment offices are estimated to be about one-third of all vacancies in the country as a whole. Because of possible duplication the figures for employment offices and careers offices should not be added together.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of the working population in the Preston travel-to-work area was registered as unemployed at the latest possible date.
At 10 April the provisional unemployment rate in the Preston travel-to-work area was 6·8 per cent. The rate is based on the estimated number of employees—employed and unemployed—which differs from the working population in that it excludes self-employed people and members of Her Majesty's Forces.
Standing Commission On Pay Comparability (Report No 1)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in respect of the Standing Commission on pay comparability report No. 1, local authority and university manual workers, National Health Service ancilliary staffs and ambulancemen, he will list the outside comparators in respect of pension schemes provided by the Office of Manpower Economics and the Pay Research Unit to the Government Actuary's Department, referred to in Appendix 7, paragraph 1, page 60.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Young Persons (South Yorkshire)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people are unemployed in the county of South Yorkshire; and how many young people in South Yorkshire he expects to leave school and require employment in the current year.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Engineering Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals he has to match supply and demand for skilled engineering labour.
I shall reply to the right hon. Member as soon as possible.
Job Creation
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the job creation, job subsidisation, special employment and other special measures, excluding training and work experience, at present used by the Government to alleviate unemployment; and what is his estimate (a) of the cost of each scheme and (b) of the numbers of participants in the current financial year.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Unemployed Persons (Exchequer Costs)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the average cost to the Exchequer in terms of social security and other payments, and lost income tax and other receipts, of an unemployed school leaver and a married man with two children.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Career Review And Development Courses
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people have completed career review and development courses in each year they have operated since their introduction in 1975; and what have been the annual costs of the courses in each year.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Manpower Services Commission
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the total number of staff employed by the Manpower Services Commission in each of its divisions.
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Disablement Advisory Committees
asked the Secretary of State for Employment which groups he has consulted about the future of the disablement advisory committees; if the majority opinion was in favour of reducing the number of their meetings or integrating them with local manpower committees; and when he expects to make a decision on the future of the disablement advisory committees.
I shall reply to the right hon. Member as soon as possible.
Health And Safety
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what qualifications the Health and Safety Executive considers it necessary for an inspector to have before he can be authorised to enforce The Electricity (Factories Act) Special Regulations 1908; and if he is satisfied that only persons having those qualifications have been so authorised.
[pursuant to his reply, 29 April 1980, c. 322]: All those appointed as Her Majesty's inspectors of factories are regarded as qualified to enforce The Electricity (Factories Act) Special Regulations 1908 and 1944, and are authorised accordingly. Where necessary, advice and assistance is provided by specialist electrical inspectors.
Bischloromethyl Ether (Exposure Studies)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects the Employment Medical Advisory Service to complete the study of workers exposed to bischloromethyl ether; whether any financial contribution to the study is being made by Diamond Shamrock Chemicals and Rohn and Hass; if so, why; and if he will make a statement.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Health And Safety Executive
asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the Pliatzky report as it affects the Health and Safety Executive; and whether it will mean a lowering of safety standards in order to avoid costs in applying safety measures.
| Inspectorate | April | |||||
| 1975 | 1976 | 1977 | 1978 | 1979 | 1980 | |
| Her Majesty's Agricultural (joined HSE 1976–77) | — | 5 | 178 | 175 | 179 | 177 |
| Her Majesty's Alkali and Clean Air | 38 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 46 | 47 |
| Her Majesty's Explosives | 10 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 13 | 12 |
| Her Majesty's Factory | 660 | 753 | 805 | 846 | 888 | 919 |
| Her Majesty's Mines and Quarries | 125 | 122 | 120 | 118 | 115 | 113 |
| Her Majesty's Nuclear Installations | 89 | 103 | 116 | 110 | 88* | 85 |
| * The drop in numbers of NI inspectors between 1978 and 1979 is accounted for by a transfer of inspectors to work on radiological protection elsewhere in HSE. | ||||||
Industrial Health And Safety Centre, Horseferry Road
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans he has for the future development of the Industrial Health and Safety Centre in Horseferry Road.
[pursuant to his reply, 2 May 1980, c. 592]: The Health and Safety Executive (HSE) has carried out a cost-effective study in relation to the Industrial Health and Safety Centre in Horseferry Road, which indicated that the cost per head for visitors was higher than for comparable methods of bringing relevant information to the public. The cost of the centre is not justified in relation to the total resources of the Health and Safety Commission, and the Commission has accordingly decided that the centre shall be closed.
Race Relations (Unfair Dismissal Claims)
asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many complaints of unfair dismissal under the Race Relations Act were heard by industrial tribunals in 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979; how many were supported by the Commission
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the present number of inspectors in each of the inspectorates of the Health and Safety Executive; and how this compares with each of the last six years.
[pursuant to his reply, 2 May 1980, c. 692]: The number of inspectors in post for each of Her Majesty's inspectorates in the Health and Safety Executive at the beginning of April 1980 and for the beginning of April in each of the last five years are as follows:for Racial Equality each year, and what percentage of these cases was successful.
[pursuant to his reply, 2 May 1980, c. 592–93]: The information about complaints of racial discrimination in dismissal brought under the Race Relations Act 1976 which were heard by industrial tribunals is as follows:
| Number of complaints | Number upheld | Percentage upheld | |
| 13 June 1977 to 30 June 1978 | 24 | 0 | — |
| 1 July 1978 to 30 June 1979 | 52 | 2 | 4 |
asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of members of industrial tribunals hearing cases of unfair dismissal under the Race Relations Act came from ethnic minority groups; and if he is satisfied that such groups are sufficiently represented.
[pursuant to his reply, 2 May 1980, c. 592–93]: Some 3 per cent.—or 67—of members of industrial tribunals have special knowledge or experience of race relations in the employment field. They are specially selected to sit on tribunals hearing cases under the Race Relations Act, and I am satisfied that the interests of ethnic minority groups are sufficiently represented in this way.
asked the Secretary of State for Employment in how many of the successful complaints of unfair dismissal made to industrial tribunals under the Race Relations Act it was
| Compensation (£) | July 1977 to June 1978 | July 1978 to June 1979 | July 1979 to December 1979 | ||||
| 1–49 | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — |
| 50–99 | … | … | … | … | 3 | 10 | 2 |
| 100–149 | … | … | … | … | — | 2 | 1 |
| 150–199 | … | … | … | … | 1 | 2 | 1 |
| 200–299 | … | … | … | … | — | 2 | — |
| 300–399 | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — |
| 400–499 | … | … | … | … | — | — | — |
| 500–749 | … | … | … | … | — | — | — |
| 750–999 | … | … | … | … | — | — | 1 |
| 1.000 and over | … | … | … | … | — | 1 | — |
| 4 | 19 | 5 | |||||
Trade
Scheduled Passenger Air Journeys
asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many scheduled passenger air journeys within the United Kingdom were conducted by private airlines in the past 12 months; how this compares with the previous 12 months; and if he will encourage further competition between airlines for domestic journeys.
The latest convenient period for which figures are available is the calendar year 1979, when private sector airlines carried 2,500,178 pasengers on 113,874 domestic stage flights. The comparable figures for 1978 were 1,949,052 and 89,002 respectively.Any British airline already has the ability to apply to the Civil Aviation Authority for a licence to begin a service on any route on which it thinks that it can operate successfully, but experience suggests that most domestic routes do not
found that the complainant had (
a) suffered discrimination and ( b) suffered injured feelings; and what was the average compensation in each instance in each year since 1976.
[pursuant to his reply, 2 May 1980, c. 592–93]: Under the Race Relations Act 1976 two complaints of dismissal on grounds of racial discrimination have been upheld by industrial tribunals. Both were heard in the period 1 July 1978 to 30 June 1979.I regret that I cannot separately identify amounts of compensation relating to such complaints. The amounts of compensation awarded by industrial tribunals in respect of all upheld complaints under the employment provisions are:generate enough traffic to support more than one airline profitably.Provisions in the new Civil Aviation Bill are designed to create the conditions in which sensible competition can flourish.
Aircraft (Night Flights)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade by what criteria he judges it relevant to place restrictions on night flights at airports; if he is aware that night flights have been introduced at Hum airport; if he was consulted; and if he will intervene to prevent such flights until local consultation has taken place.
The criteria by which the need for restrictions on night flights is judged depend on the circumstances at the particular airport. I was not aware of, nor was I consulted about, the introduction of night flights at Hurn airport, and as the airport has not been designated under section 29 of the Civil Aviation Act 1971 I have no powers to intervene.
European Comunity (Fuel Price Policy)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what representation he has made to the EEC Commission, or to the Governments of other EEC countries, about unfair competition arising from differences in fuel price policy.
I shall reply to the right hon. Member as soon as possible.
Air Crash, Tenerife
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if the flight data and the cockpit voice recorder of the Dan Air Boeing 727 which crashed in Tenerife on 25 April have now been read out; at what location or locations the read-outs were undertaken; and if he will make a statement on what they reveal about the circumstances and cause of the disaster.
The flight data recorder of the Dan Air Boeing 727 which crashed at Tenerife on 25 April 1980 is now in the process of being read out in Madrid by Spanish and United Kingdom experts. The cockpit voice recorder has now been
| United Kingdom Imports (£ million cif) | ||||||||
| 1975 | 1976 | 1977 | 1978 | 1979 | ||||
| Iran | … | … | … | 701·3 | 1,048·2 | 789·0 | 527·8 | 243·6 |
| Israel | … | … | … | 91·2 | 128·7 | 162·3 | 187·3 | 227·6 |
| Saudi Arabia | … | … | … | 858·5 | 985·5 | 1,132·4 | 870·5 | 1,108·6 |
| Syria | … | … | … | 4·9 | 7·7 | 5·3 | 4·3 | 7·0 |
| Iraq | … | … | … | 102·6 | 279·4 | 332·1 | 496·7 | 393·7 |
| Jordan | … | … | … | 0·7 | 0·8 | 2·0 | 6·1 | 7·9 |
| Kuwait | … | … | … | 418·2 | 587·3 | 554·9 | 606·0 | 743·1 |
| Egypt | … | … | … | 44·4 | 70·3 | 89·4 | 99·9 | 252·7 |
| Libya | … | … | … | 128·1 | 166·6 | 141·7 | 98·0 | 62·2 |
| United Kingdom Exports (£ million fob) | ||||||||
| 1975 | 1976 | 1977 | 1978 | 1979 | ||||
| Iran | … | … | … | 495·5 | 515·7 | 659·0 | 752·0 | 231·8 |
| Israel | … | … | … | 237·8 | 250·2 | 276·1 | 243·4 | 270·7 |
| Saudi Arabia | … | … | … | 200·2 | 409·0 | 601·1 | 785·7 | 893·6 |
| Syria | … | … | … | 35·2 | 64·4 | 57·2 | 57·7 | 66·7 |
| Iraq | … | … | … | 137·3 | 152·1 | 167·4 | 216·7 | 201·2 |
| Jordan | … | … | … | 37·0 | 56·1 | 48·9 | 67·4 | 86·9 |
| Kuwait | … | … | … | 100·2 | 149·6 | 253·8 | 331·9 | 233·4 |
| Egypt | … | … | … | 107·9 | 174·1 | 191·9 | 205·1 | 264·5 |
| Libya | … | … | … | 107·5 | 134·9 | 173·9 | 214·3 | 253·2 |
Source:
United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics
Fish (Imports)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what were the imports, by country, of fish into the United Kingdom in the years 1977 to 1979; and what was the percentage of total imports in each case.
flown to the United Kingdom and is at the Accident Investigation Branch (AIB) read-out facility at Farnborough. The cockpit voice recorder is substantially damaged by impact forces but AIB experts are hopeful that information will be extracted from it later today.
Representatives from the Spanish Commission of Investigation and the United States National Transportation Safety Board together with the United Kingdom accredited representative to the investigating commission will be present at the readout.
A statement wil be made to the House when additional information relating to the accident becomes available.
Middle East
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list the (a) exports and (b) imports between the United Kingdom and Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Egypt and Libya, respectively, for each of the last five years.
The information is as follows:
I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.
Hotels (Room Prices)
asked the Secretary of State for Trade what discussions he has had with the hotel and travel industries about proposals that the price of every hotel room should be prominently displayed.
None. The Tourism (Sleeping Accommodation Price Display) Order 1977 already requires establishments having a stated minimum number of bedrooms or beds to display at reception maximum and minimum price for each basic type of room.
Man-Made Fibre Industry
asked the Secretary of State for Trade, in view of possible redundancies in Halifax, what proposals he now has for assisting the tufted carpet industry, in view of the fact that quota restrictions have been placed on United States-made nylon carpet yarn but not upon United States man-made fibre tufted carpet imports.
The European Commission rejected the United Kingdom application for quota restrictions on imports of tufted carpets, on the grounds that import penetration had not reached a level at which such restrictions would be justified under the rules of the GATT. But the Commission recognised the need for safeguard action if imports continued to increase and caused injury to the United Kingdom industry. We will continue to monitor the situation closely.
Export Promotion
asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list the £16·5 million cuts in export promotion; and which industrialists, manufacturers' organisations and trade unions were (a) consulted and (b) gave consent to the proposals.
Details of the estimated total savings of £16·5 million which are to be made in the Government's export promotion services during the four-year period from 1980–81 to 1983–84 will be found in the table annexed to the " Action Document " on Sir Derek Rayner's report on these services that my right hon. Friend placed in the Library of the House on 30 April in reply to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Harrow, Central (Mr. Grant). The changes in the export promotion services were made on the advice of the British Overseas Trade Board and after consultation with the British Overseas Trade Advisory Council. Both bodies include industrialists and trade unionists.
Education And Science
Non-Advanced Farther Education
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the estimated expenditure for non-advanced further education in 1980–81, compared with the figure for 1979–80.
The Government's expenditure plans, as embodied in the 1980–81 rate support grant settlement, allow for expenditure on non-advanced further education in England and Wales of some £580 million, before allowing for the introduction of full cost fees for new overseas students from September 1980. This is some £20 million higher than our best estimate of expenditure on non-advanced further education in 1979–80.
School Leaving Assessment
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has received any proposals for a school leaving assessment for the lower 30 to 40 per cent. of the ability range of children.
I have received no such detailed proposals, but I believe there is much to be said for offering all children a documentary record when they leave school.
Handicapped Children
17.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will seek to improve the educational facilities for handicapped children.
The Government remain committed to the maintenance and improvement of the quality of all education. Our plans provide for the maintenance of expenditure on special education at its present level and, to the extent that the numbers of handicapped children may fall, scope exists for modest improvements. It is, however, for local authorities to decide how best to deploy the resources available to them.
Advanced Further Education
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what estimate is available of the global capped pool for advanced further education in 1981–82; and if he will make a statement.
The Government's expenditure plans assume a small reduction in expenditure on home students in higher education and account will be taken of this in the size of the advanced further education pool for 1981–82. I shall be consulting the local authority associations before determining the exact sum later in the year.
17-Plus Examination
19.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the current position on proposals for a less academic public examination to be taken at the age of 17-plus.
I am considering the recommendations in the Keohane report in the light of comments and alongside other proposals relating to examinations at 17-plus. However, I have not yet reached decisions on these complex issues.
Pupil-Teacher Ratios (Primary And Secondary Schools)
20.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the present pupil-teacher ratio in primary and secondary schools.
The overall pupil-teacher ratio in primary and secondary schools in England in January 1980 is estimated at 18:7:1.
Overseas Students
21.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what are his latest estimates of the effect of increases in overseas student fees on the number of overseas students entering the United Kingdom and on the range of countries from which they come.
It is not possible to make reliable predictions of the precise effects of the fee increases on demand nor on the way in which different countries may be affected.
24.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what was the total cost to the taxpayer in 1978–79 of providing university education below cost for students from Europe, the United States, Iran, Kuwait and Nigeria; and what percentage this represented of the total provision of university education below cost for overseas students.
£23·5 million. This represents 32 per cent. of the total subsidy to overseas students in universities in the academic year 1978–79.
Assisted Places Scheme
22.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the current state of progress in the assisted places scheme.
23.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what progress he has made in plans for the assisted places scheme in private schools.
Provisional expressions of interest in the scheme have been received from 469 schools, including all the direct grant grammar schools that are becoming independent. Local education authorities have been informed of the response from schools serving their areas and invited to make known to the Secretary of State their views on the operation of the scheme in their areas. Schools will be invited to submit formal applications for membership of the scheme later this term as soon as it is possible to let them have details of the likely content of regulations relating to the scheme and also of the income scale to be used, following consultations on the proposals for an income scale contained in my right hon. and learned Friend's reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Streatham (Mr. Shelton) on 7 February.—[Vol. 978, c. 288.]
Educational Disadvantage
25.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he has reconsidered his decision to close the Centre for Information and Advice on Educational Disadvantage.
27.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to be able to make a further statement on the future of the Centre for Information and Advice on Educational Disadvantage.
I have given careful consideration to the representations I have received from the centre's governors and others about my decision to close this body, including a detailed document submitted by the governors which described the centre's current work and argued for it to remain open. I have, however, concluded that my decision to close the centre should stand, and I have written accordingly to the centre's acting chairman.
Home And Overseas Students (Definition)
26.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what changes he has made in the definition of home and overseas students; and if he will make a statement.
I refer the right hon. member to my answer on 25 April to the hon. member for Wolverhampton, North-East (Mrs. Short).—[Vol. 984, c. 302.]
School Books (Financial Provision)
28.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the average sum for each child in both primary and secondary schools which he expects to be provided by local education authorities during 1980–81 for the purchase of books; and how this figure will compare with provision in 1979–80.
For 1980–81 the Government's expenditure plans embodied in the rate support grant settlement assume that, nationally, per capita standards in schools should be maintained in real terms; it is, however, for each local authority to determine its own pattern of expenditure in the light of local needs and circumstances. Details of actual expenditure by local education authorities in 1979–80 are not yet available, but in 1978–79 average expenditure on books per pupil in primary schools was £4·20 and in secondary schools, £7—November 1978 prices.
11-Plus Examination
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science which education authorities are still using the 11-plus selection examination for secondary eduction; and if any authorities have added themselves since the recent Education Act was passed.
Information about examinations or other arrangements adopted by local education authorities for the admission of pupils to their schools is not held by the Department. However, in September 1980 admission to secondary schools in parts of 36 local education authorities will be based on selection according to ability. These are listed below. There have been no additions to this number since the passage of either the 1979 or of the 1980 Education Acts.
- Barnet.
- Bexley.
- Bromley.
- Enfield.
- Kingston-upon-Thames.
- Redbridge.
- Sutton.
- Birmingham.
- Walsall.
- Wolverhampton.
- Liverpool.
- Wirral.
- Bolton.
- Trafford.
- Calderdale.
- Kirklees.
- Avon.
- Berkshire.
- Buckinghamshire.
- Cheshire.
- Cumbria.
- Derbyshire.
- Devon.
- Dorset.
- Essex.
- Gloucestershire.
- Hereford & Worcester.
- Kent.
- Lancashire.
- Lincolnshire.
- Norfolk.
- North Yorkshire.
- Shropshire.
- Staffordshire.
- Warwickshire.
- Wiltshire.
Medical Research Careers (Report)
30.
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he has received " The Call for Careers in Medical Research " by the Association of Researchers in Medical Science; what are the views of his Department concerning this report; and whether he will make a statement.
My right hon. and learned Friend has only recently received this document and he is considering it.
National Finance
Tobacco And Tobacco Products
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will give for the longest and most convenient stated period of time the amounts of revenue obtained by the Treasury from the tax upon cigarettes, cigars, tobaccos and snuff.
In the period from 1 January 1978, when the conversion to the tobacco products duty was completed, to 31 December 1979, excise duty revenues from cigarettes, cigars and other tobacco products were £4,294·9 million, £132·9 million and £365·7 million, respectively. In this period snuff has been exempt from excise duty.It is estimated that in these two years the amount of VAT charged on sales of cigarettes was about £650 million and on all other tobacco products about £100 million.
Sterling Deposits
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report the sterling deposits in United Kingdom banks owned by overseas banks on a weekly basis since the abolition of the exchange control.
Monthly information on various categories of sterling deposits—for example separating those of overseas residents from those of United Kingdom residents—for three types of overseas banks—American, Japanese and " other "—are published in Financial Statistics—respectively tables 6.11, 6.12 and 6.13 in the latest issue—April 1980. Figures for total sterling deposits, including certificates of deposit, covering all three types of overseas banks are provided below for end-banking month dates since the abolition of remaining exchange controls from 24 October 1979.
| STERLING DEPOSITS WITH UNITED KINGDOM BRANCHES AND SUBSIDIARIES* OF OVERSEAS BANKS | |
| (£bn) | |
| 1979 | |
| November 21 | 13·9 |
| December 12 | 14·2 |
| 1980 | |
| January 16 | 13·7 |
| February 20 | 14·3 |
| March 19 | 14·5 |
| Source: Financial Statistics, Tables 6.11, 6.12 and 6.13. | |
| * Consortium banks, that is banks which are owned by other banks but in which no one bank has a direct shareholding of more than 50 per cent., and in which at least one shareholder is an overseas bank—could arguably be | |
| included. Their sterling deposits are relatively small, amounting to £0.8 bn on 19 March 1980—see Table 6.14 of Financial Statistics. |
Clegg Commission Awards
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give the total full year cost of all recommendations made by the Clegg Commission to date.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Coinage (Metal Content)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what the value of the metal content of the ½p coin was at the latest date for which the figure is available.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.
Mortgage Interest (Tax Relief)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the saving if mortgage tax relief were paid at the same rate as life insurance premium tax reliefs.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Child Benefit (Financing)
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer by what percentage (a) the duty on tobacco and (b) the duties on alcoholic drinks would each have to be raised beyond the increases proposed in the Budget, in order each to yield the cost of an increase in child benefit to £5·20 per week (i) in a full year and (ii) in the current financial year instead of £4·75 as proposed; and what would be the effect on the prices of 20 cigarettes, a pint of beer, a bottle of spirit and a bottle of wine.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Consolidated Fund
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether it is the case that two payments from the Consolidated Fund, namely class VIII vote 6, subhead D2 and class X, vote 32, subhead C2, constitute accounting events Which form part of a closed cycle of transactions internal to government, at no stage of which any actual transfer outside the public sector of voted money in fact takes place.
[pursuant to his reply 2 May 1980]: No actual transfer outside the public sector of voted money takes place. The payments constitute public expenditure for the reasons set out in my written answer to the hon. Member on 14 April.—[Vol. 982, c. 517–18.]
Local Government Expenditure
asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the estimated cost to each current income tax payer of transferring the total cost of all local government spending to the central Exchequer.
I have been asked to reply. The yield of domestic rates in Great Britain in 1979–80 was approximately £2·8 billion and the yield of non-domestic rates was approximately £4 billion. If the yield from both domestic and non-domestic rates had been raised instead from individiuals who paid income tax, the average burden would have been of the order of £260 per taxpayer.
Prime Minister (Engagements)
Q6.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
Q7.
asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
Q9.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 6 May.
Q10.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 6 May.
Q12.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
Q13.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 6 May.
Q15.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 6 May.
Q18.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 6 May.
Q20.
asked the Prime Minister what are her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
Q21.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
Q22.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
Q23.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
Q25.
asked the Prime Minister what are her official engagements for Tuesday 6 May.
asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 6 May.
I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Stirlingshire, West (Mr. Canavan).
European Community (Defence Matters)
Q8.
asked the Prime Minister whether, in the light of developments in Iran and Afghanistan, she considers that the Treaty of Rome should be amended to permit regular discussion of defence matters by European Economic Community Ministers and the European Parliament.
I do not think Treaty amendments of the sort suggested would be either necessary or desirable. Our defence is based on NATO to which we are fully committed.Under its own rules of procedure the European Parliament can and does discuss matters outside the direct responsibility of the European committees, including defence. Defence is, of course, discussed by Members of Parliament in the Assembly of the Western European Union and in the North Atlantic Assembly.
Government Achievement
Q11.
asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the achievements of the Government's first 12 months of office.
We have accomplished a great deal, but I am never fully satisfied.
Brandt Commission (Food Security)
Q14.
asked the Prime Minister what is Her Majesty's Government's policy towards the Brandt Commission proposal that international food security should be assured through the early establishment of an international grains arrangement, larger international emergency reserves, and the establishment of a food financing facility; and whether Her Majesty's Government will take an international initiative in this matter.
The Government are studying the detailed recommendations of the Brandt Commission's report and will make their views known as soon as possible. As regards international food security, we agree generally with the basic aims of the Commission's proposals. In particular, we shall continue to work with our Community partners for a new international grains arrangement, including internationally controlled reserves, which we believe would be an important element in improving food security in the world.
Nationalised Industries (External Financing Limits)
Q16.
asked the Prime Minister whether she is satisfied with the co-ordination between the Treasury and the sponsoring Ministries regarding the application of external financing limits to the nationalised industries.
External financing limits are set after discussion between the Treasury, sponsoring Departments and the industries. In monitoring the industries' progress towards meeting them there is similar consultation between the Treasury and the Departments. The system is very far from perfect.
Tameside
Q17.
asked the Prime Minister if she will visit Tameside.
I have at present no plans to do so.
Tuc
Q19.
asked the Prime Minister when next she will be meeting the Trades Union Congress.
I meet representatives of the TUC at NEDC and on other occasions. Further meetings will be arranged as necessary.
Cardigan
Q24.
asked the Prime Minister if she will visit Cardigan.
I have at present no plans to do so.
Ussr-United Kingdom (Trade)
asked the Prime Minister what is her policy on trade with the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; and what discussions she has had with manufacturers' associations regarding such trade.
As my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Trade informed the House on 4 February, the Government believe that trade should continue where this is genuinely in the interest of both countries. We continue ready to act with our allies against trade which is not in our interest. My right hon. Friend maintains contact with organisations concerned with trade with the Soviet Union.
Olympic Games
asked the Prime Minister if, in view of the decisions by the United States to resume grain shipments to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and by the European Economic Community to resume the supply of cheap butter, she will reconsider the policy of Her Majesty's Government regarding the Olympic boycott and her subsequent advice to British athletes.
No. Nothing has happened to cause us to alter the advice we have given to British athletes.
Home Department
Prison Service
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why there has not been a chief nursing officer for the prison service since October 1978; what steps he has taken to fill the vacancy; and when it is expected to be filled.
The chief nursing officer resigned in October 1978. Since then the management of nursing and hospital staff in the prison service has been under review. Firm conclusions as to the future of the post will be reached as soon as possible.
Mentally-Disordered Prisoners
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the mentally-disordered prisoner who has been waiting for a place in a hospital in the Wessex regional health authority since 2 December 1977 is still waiting; if so, where the prisoner is held; what is the prisoner's age; from what he or she is suffering; and why a hospital place has not yet been found.
The prisoner was recently transferred to a special hospital.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the
| Prison | Under 1 month | 1 to 3 months | 3 to 6 months | 12 months to 2 years |
| Parkhurst | 1 (23) | 1(44) 1(25) | — | — |
| Pentonville | 1 (69) | — | — | — |
| Winchester | 1 (28) | — | — | — |
| Wormwood Scrubs | 3 (25, 32 and 41) | 1(23) | 3 (21, 31 and 44) | 1(25) |
| Birmingham | — | 1(27) | — | — |
| Wakefield | — | — | 1(32) | — |
| Wandsworth | — | — | 1(47) | 1(33) |
| Dartmoor | — | — | 1(26) | |
| Lincoln | — | — | — | 1(42) |
This prisoner was discharged from Dartmoor prison on 29 April on the expiry of his prison sentence. He is 26 years old and has been diagnosed as suffering from mental illness within the meaning of section 4 of the Mental Health Act 1959. The regional health authority did not offer him a place in a local psychiatric hospital and it was not considered that he met the criteria for admission to a special hospital.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Ormskirk on 3 March, he will give the, details of the age, sex, illness and location of those mentally-disordered persons who are still in prison awaiting transfer to National Health Service hospitals and indicate, in each case, the length of wait and the reason for the delay.
On 22 April 1980, 19 male prisoners recommended for transfer to local psychiatric hospitals under section 72 of the Mental Health Act 1959 were awaiting vacancies. The distribution of these prisoners in the prison system showing their ages in parenthesis and the length of time during which they had been awaiting transfer is given below:and the appropriate regional health authorities are still making enquiries about the availability of hospital vacancies. Five prisoners are considered by regional health authorities to need a greater degree of security than is available in local hospitals in their regions; efforts to find suitable vacancies for them are continuing. In two similar cases, the prisoners concerned have been released to out-patient care after 22 April 1980 on the expiry of their sentences.
Remanded Prisoners
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the prisoner who had been held on remand in custody in Holloway for 440 days on 31 January is still in custody.
No.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the person who had been held on remand in custody in Pentonville prison for 483 days on 31 January is still on remand in custody.
He was still held on remand in custody on 1 May 1980.
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if the prisoner who had been held on remand in custody in Brixton prison for 566 days on 31 January is still on remand in custody.
No.
Government Contracts
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will ensure that Government contracts are placed with employers who have endorsed and are enforcing guidelines recently drawn up by the Commission for Racial Equality.
Government contractors, like other employers, have a responsibility to comply with the general provisions of the Race Relations Act 1976 and this is reinforced by a standard clause which has formed part of all these contracts since 1969. If the reference to guidelines relates to the code of practice recently published by the Commission for Racial Equality, this is a draft issued in accordance with the provisions of section 47 of the Act for the purpose of consultation.
Police And Black Youths (Relations)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will take immediate action to improve relations between the police and black youths pending the results of the inquiries that are shortly to be started.
I think it is right to await the outcome of the inquiries mentioned in my statement to the House on 28 April about the recent disturbances in Bristol. Meanwhile, I know that in those areas where problems exist chief officers of police devote considerable effort to improving relations between the police and all sections of the community.
Police Complaints Procedure
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the lime scale for the taking of evidence for the first triennial review of the police complaints procedure under the Police Act 1976; how many submissions he has had already; and when he expects to publish his conclusions.
Section 8 (6) of the Police Act 1976 requires the Police Complaints Board to keep under review the working of the relevant provisions of the Act and to make to me a report thereon at least once every three years. I received the board's first triennial review report on 18 April and I am carefully considering what it says. It is my intention to publish the report in due course.
Robberies (Metropolitan Police Area)
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Newham, North-West, written answer, 23 April, on robberies in the Metropolitan Police area, he will give for the years as stated, the number of arrests made in each of the years where the number of prosecutions successful and otherwise and the amounts of the stolen property recovered out of the total loss of £35 million on either an annual or collective basis.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Equal Opportunities And Racial Equality Commissions
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what consideration he has given to the possibility of combining the Equal Opportunities Commission and the Commission on Racial Equality into a single commission.
This would require legislation and we see no advantage in such a merge.I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to a supplementary question by the hon. Member for Halifax (Dr. Summer-skill) on 1 May.
Bail Act
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people have committed offences whilst on bail since the new Bail Act came into effect; and how many people committed offences whilst on bail during a similar period prior to the new Bail Act coming into force.
I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Kingswood (Mr. Aspinwall) on 2 April.—[Vol. 982, c. 225.]
Firearms Act 1968
asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if it is his intention to lay an order before the House with a view to seeking alterations in the existing Firearms Act 1968; and if he will make a statement.
I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Devon, North (Mr. Speller) on 6 March.—[Vol. 980, c. 293.]An order increasing the level of fees charged in England and Wales under the firearms legislation was laid before the House on 30 April.
House Of Commons
Telex Service
asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what facilities are available for hon. Members to receive urgent telex messages at the House; and if none exist, if he will take steps to provide such a service for hon. Members.
Telex facilities are available in the House only on a very limited basis.The Accommodation and Administration Sub-Committee of the Services Committee has examined a number of proposals for providing a fuller service, but came to the conclusion that none of them could be recommended for implementation.
Rhodesia Sanctions Order (Prosecutions)
asked the Attorney-General what has happened to the one prosecution awaiting appeal and two others in the pipeline which he mentioned in his statement on the Rhodesian sanctions order, Official Report 19 December 1979, column 639.
The appeal was allowed in part and no proceedings were instituted in respect of the two matters still under consideration on 19 December 1979.
Foreign & Commonwealth Affairs
Continental Shelf (Irish Sea)
asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the outcome of the latest discussions at official level with the Government of the Republic of Ireland concerning the delimitation of the continental shelf between the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland.
Officials met in Dublin on 17 and 18 April to continue discussion on the modalities of the proposed arbitration. Satisfactory progress was made.A further meeting will take place in June.
Foreign & Commonwealth Affairs
Diplomats (Medical Treatment)
asked the Lord Privy Seal whether free medical treatment and education are made available to any foreign diplomats resident in the United Kingdom.
Foreign diplomats who are in post in the United Kingdom are eligible for National Health Service facilities on the same basis as other people ordinarily resident in this country. This also applies to members of their families who accompany them, but it does not extend to any dependants who might come to the United Kingdom specifically for treatment or to staff who might be posted to the United Kingdom for the same purpose.If a foreign diplomatic wishes his child to attend a maintained school—at which no fees are chargeable—this would normally be possible: but for higher and further education establishments tuition fees must be paid.
asked the Lord Privy Seal which countries afford to United Kingdom diplomats the provision of free medical treatment and education.
Under the terms of the relevant social security conventions, diplomatic service staff are eligible for free medical treatment in Bulgaria and Romania: and for limited free treatment in European Community countries and in Austria, Czechoslovakia, the German Democratic Republic, Hungary. New Zealand, Poland, Sweden, the U. S. S. R. and Yugoslavia. The terms of the conventions with Finland, Norway, Portugal, Spain and Turkey exclude diplomatic service staff, who are therefore not entitled to free treatment in these countries, or in other countries with which the United Kingdom has no Convention.I do not have full information about which countries provide free education for members of the diplomatic service. Eligibility depends on local practice and legislation rather than on inter-Governmental agreements. Factors such as language, curriculum and ideology necessarily influence the extent to which facilities for free education can be used in practice.
Energy
North Sea Oil And Gas
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what was the average volume of gas flared each day and how much offshore oil was exported in the first quarter of the current year.
I shall answer the hon. Gentleman as soon as possible.
European Community (Gas And Fuel Oil)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what taxes are imposed on fuel oil used by industrial consumers in each of the EEC countries, including the United Kingdom.
The following table shows the excise duty and VAT imposed on fuel oil in each of the EEC Countries as at 1 April 1980.
| Excise duty £/tonne | VAT Per cent. | |
| Belgium | 1·48 | 6 |
| Denmark | 26·02 | 20·25 |
| France | 0·08 | 17·6 |
| Germany | 3·55 | 13 |
| Ireland | 4·09 | 0 |
| Italy | 0·05 | 14 |
| Luxembourg | 1·48 | 5 |
| Netherlands | 3·27 | 18 |
| United Kingdom | 8·00 | 0 |
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what are the present costs to industrial consumers of gas and fuel oil; and how this compares with the costs of the same fuels to consumers in each of the other EEC countries.
Based on a Department of Energy survey of some 900 large industrial consumers in the United Kingdom during the period October to December 1979 the average prices of heavy fuel oil and gas were £76.1 per tonne and 14.10p per therm respectively.
During the same period the average prices realised in new and renewed contracts to industrial consumers for heavy fuel oil and gas were £84.5 per tonne and 21.3p per therm respectively.
There are difficulties in making reliable international comparisons of fuel oil prices since, for example, the proportions sold under contract may vary in the different countries. The latest available price comparisons—15 February 1980—compiled by the EEC for high sulphur fuel oil deliveries of less than 24,000 tonnes per annum—inclusive of duties and taxes—are as follows:
Country
| £ per tonne |
| Belgium | 74.63 |
| Denmark | 106.70 |
| France | 79.47 |
| Germany | 85.21 |
| Ireland | 97.11 |
| Italy | 82.32 |
| Luxembourg | not available |
| Netherland | 81.09 |
| United Kingdom | 92.74 |
It is necessary to bear in mind that the method of collecting the data in each country may not be identical and therefore makes direct comparison difficult. Furthermore, the quality of fuel oil used in the various countries may differ.
For the latest available figures, on the average price of gas to industrial consumers in EEC countries I refer the hon. Member to the reply given on 23 January 1980—[Vol. 977, c. 225–28]—to the hon. Member for St. Helens (Mr. Spriggs). The prices are based on tariffs in force on 1 January 1978.
North Sea Oil And Gas (Licensing)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy what further discussions he has had with oil companies and representatives of the Scottish fishing industry on the code of practice which it is intended to bring into use when allocations are being made for the seventh licensing round on oil and gas exploration in the North Sea; and if he will make a statement.
I am presently considering proposals put forward by representatives of the fishing industry. I have in mind that a code of practice concerning oil and fishing activities should be prepared in consultation with the representatives of the two industries, and with the Fisheries Departments, and my Depart- ment will be undertaking discussions to that end.
North Sea Rigs (Hollow Steel Structures)
asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether he is satisfied with the testing of hollow steel structures built for use in the North Sea; what information has been gained from the accident to the Alexander Kielland rig; and what inspection and testing procedures he proposes to institute.
In the light of present knowledge I am satisfied with the present procedures for testing of structures, but this is a matter which is constantly kept under review. The Department of Energy is a major sponsor of an international research programme into the fatigue, fracture and buckling of welded steel offshore structures; the results of this programme are being incorporated into the survey requirements as they become available.The results of the Norwegian inquiry into the Alexander Kielland accident which is continuing are not yet available. Close contact is being maintained with the Norwegian authorities and Department inspectors plan to visit Norway this month to review the progress of the inquiry. The report of the inquiry into the Alexander Kielland disaster will be considered in any future reviews of safety standards.At present there is no evidence on which to base changes in the inspection and testing procedures involved in the certification of offshore structures required by the Offshore Installations (Construction and Survey) Regulations 1974.
Transport
Roads (Land Use)
asked the Minister of Transport how many acres of land in rural areas and in urban areas have been taken for motorway and trunk road building; and how many for local authority road building since 1959.
I regret that the information requested is not readily available. Land requirements are considered in relation to individual road schemes, but the Department keeps no comprehensive records of land taken.
Vehicle Excise Duty
asked the Minister of Transport (1) if he will now order a survey of vehicle excise duty evasion by heavy goods vehicle operators;(2) what is the latest estimate of vehicle excise duty evasion by heavy goods vehicle operators, whether by operating unlicensed vehicles, or by paying at too low a rate.
The survey of evasion undertaken by the Department in 1977–78 suggested that the level of evasion for goods vehicles might be 10 to 13 per cent.,
| VEHICLE EXCISE DUTY: PENALTIES AND BACK DUTY 1979 | |||
| London Area | Elsewhere in Great Britain | ||
| All Vehicles | Goods Vehicles | Other Vehicles | |
| £ | £ | £ | |
| Fines | 431,238 | 251,021 | 1,468.105 |
| Mitigated penalties in lieu of prosecution* | 174,666 | 177,560 | 1,177,112 |
| Back Duty† | 408,600 | 612,201 | 766,680 |
| * includes an element for back duty | |||
| †ordered by the Courts or collected as a result of Departmental check weighing. | |||
Railway Subsidies (European Comparisons)
asked the Minister of Transport if he will list the subsidies to the railway operation in each of the countries of the European Economic Community; and how this compares with the
| State intervention (£) | |||||
| Stale intervention (£ million)* | per head of national population | per rate kilometre | per passenger kilometre | ||
| BRB—Great Britain | … | 376 | 6·9 | 0·02 | 0·01 |
| CFL—Luxembourg | … | 59 | 163·9 | 0·22 | 2·46 |
| CIE—Ireland | … | 33 | 10·3 | 0·02 | 0·04 |
| DB—West Germany | … | 1,796 | 29·3 | 0·06 | 0·05 |
| DSB—Denmark | … | 88 | 17·3 | 0·04 | 0·03† |
| FS—Italy | … | 705 | 12·5 | 0·04 | 0·02 |
| NS—Netherlands | … | 212 610 | 15·3 | 0·07 | 0·03 |
| SNCB—Belgium | … | 610 | 62·1 | 0·14 | 0·08 |
| SNCF—France | … | 1,220 | 23·0 | 0·04 | 0·02 |
| Sources: EEC, International Union of Railways (UIC). | |||||
| Notes | |||||
| * Converted at 1977 market exchange rates. | |||||
| †Includes shipping. | |||||
British Railways (Modernisation Programme)
asked the Minister of Transport what effect his policy on cash limits is having on the British Railways programme of electrification, rolling stock replacement and station modernisation. but the survey related primarily to cars. A new survey on goods vehicles would be expensive and time-consuming, but I intend to devote enforcement resources to reducing evasion.
asked the Minister of Transport what are the latest available figures for back duty and penalties collected from vehicle excise duty evaders, categorised into heavy goods vehicle operators, motorists and others.
Records are not kept in the precise form requested. The information available is:United kingdom, per head of population, per route mile and per passenger mile.
The latest informations is for 1977 and is dervied from the EEC Commission's second biennial report on the economic and financial situation of railway undertakings. It is given in the following table.
It is for the Railways Board to decide what management action is necessary to remain within its cash limits. There are a number of options open to it to keep within the limits, including increased productivity and efficiency.
asked the Minister of Transport whether any proposals have been put to him by British Railways for investment in new rolling stock for catering purposes; and what effect current limits on British Railways investment will have on planned modernisation in this area.
It is for the Railways Board to determine investment priorities within the overall ceiling set by the Government. Catering rolling stock forms an integral part of all the high speed train sets being introduced by the board; I approved four additional sets on 26 December.
| (£000) | ||||
| Paid by 1976–77* | Department of 1977–78 | Transport to 1978–79 | RoSPA 1977–78 | |
| (1) Costs of Training, Development and Liaison Unit | 122 | 138 | 147 | 177 |
| (2) Aid towards cost of Publicity Material | 29 | 31 | 36 | 36 |
| (3) Contribution to Central Services | 33 | 41 | 48 | 62 |
| (4) Costs of Road Safety Education Development Unit | 38 | 39 | 50 | 40 † |
| (5) Totals | 222 | 249 | 281 | 315 |
| * Includes payments made by the Department of the Environment before the creation of the Department of Transport. | ||||
| †Final quarter's payment not yet claimed by RoSPA. | ||||
asked the Minister of Transport whether, as a consequence of the contributions to the budget of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, he makes any nomination to the society's executive committee.
Yes. My right hon. Friend has nominated his Director of Road Safety to the society's executive committee.
Environment
Villages (Community Co-Operatives)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will request the Council for Small Industries in Rural Areas to consider the promotion of community co-operatives in villages so that these may be responsible for the maintenance of essential services such as petrol stations, sub-post offices, public houses and a bus service and, if necessary, to liaise with the Co-operative Development Agency to achieve this end.
No. My right hon. Friend is currently reviewing the functions and operations of both the Development Commission and COSIRA.
No separate proposals have been put to me for investment in catering rolling stock.
Royal Society For The Prevention Of Accidents
asked the Minister of Transport how much his Department has paid to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents in each of the last four years; and if he will provide a breakdown of the figures.
The information is as follows:
Jubilee Hall, Covent Garden
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will take steps to protect Jubilee Hall, Covent Garden, from demolition.
As Jubilee Hall stands in a conservation area it is already protected by a statutory requirement to obtain listed building consent before it could be demolished. I cannot anticipate the outcome of such an application.
Agrement Board
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in the light of his decision that the Agrement Board should remain independent, he will now make a statement on the proposed methods of improving the financial position of the board and the marketability of agrement certificates.
These are matters which I shall be considering in consultation with the board and in the context of our review of the present system of building control.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what appointments he has made to the Agrement Board since his decision that it should remain independent; and whether he will now review the level of fees paid to board members, in view of the fact that they have remained unchanged since 1966.
No new appointments have been made to date. However, Mr. W. S. Jones, who has acted as chairman of the Agrement Board since the death of Lord Peddie in 1978, has indicated to me his wish to stand down this year. The level of fees paid to board members is being reviewed.
Enterprise Zones
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what discussions he has had about the creation of the new enterprise zones with representatives of the partnership authorities and programme authorities.
Officials of my Department have had discussions about enterprise zones with the following partnership authorities:
- Newcastle, Gateshead and Tyne and Wear
- Liverpool, and Merseyside
- Salford (a meeting with Greater Manchester Council has been arranged)
- Newham, Tower Hamlets, Hackney and the GLC
- and the following programme authorities:
- South Tyneside, Sunderland and Middlesbrough
- Sheffield
- Wolverhampton
Local Government Revenue
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what would be the estimated total cost of replacing local government revenue raised from the present rating system with central Exchequer finance.
Rates raised about £6·8 billion in the United Kingdom in 1979–80. In the absence of rates, that revenue would have had to be found from another source.
Dog Licences
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the total cost of collecting dog licence fees in 1979–80.
The final figures for 1979–80 are not yet available, but it is estimated that the Post Office's charges in acting as local authorities' agents for collection will be about £1,930,000. Twenty-five local authorities issue dog licences themselves and no information is available on the costs they have incurred.
Social Workers (Salary Claim)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many counties have settled the salary claim with their residential social workers; and how many are still in dispute.
The information requested is not available centrally. Implementation of the settlement of the social workers' salary claim is a matter for determination by individual local authorities within the framework of an agreement negotiated nationally in April 1979.
Local Authorities (Union Membership Agreements)
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish a list in the Official Report of those local authorities that operate union membership agreements.
Union membership agreements are negotiated locally by individual local authorities and the trades unions concerned. Information on which authorities operate such agreements is not available centrally.
Water Charges
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what were the average charges in each water authority area during the years 1975–76, 1977–78, 1978–79 and 1979–80; and what will be the average charges in each water authority in England and Wales in 1980–81 for (a) unmetered supplies, pence in the £ sterling, and (b) metered supplies, pence per 1,000 gallons.
The following table gives details of the average equated rate poundage for unmeasured water supply and average measured charge per 1,000 gallons for each year from 1975–76 to 1980–81 inclusive. The information is based on the water authorities final budget estimates for each year in question.
| Authority | Average Equated rate poundage for Unmeasured Water Supply. (See footnote) | Average Measured Charge per 1,000 gallons | ||||||||||||
| 1975–76 | 1976–77 | 1977–78 | 1978–79 | 1979–80 | 1980–81 | 1975–76 | 1916–11 | 1977–78 | 1978–79 | 1979–80 | 1980–81 | |||
| p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | p | |||
| NorthWest | … | … | 8·7 | 9·60 | 10·62 | 11·8 | 12·60 | 15·60 | 42·5 | 48·0 | 53·0 | 60·7 | 60·4 | 75·90 |
| Northumbrian | … | … | 8·83 | 10·24 | 12·88 | 12·9 | 12·72 | 14·57 | 37·85 | 45·2 | 56·5 | 67·6 | 60·8 | 67·28 |
| Severn-Trent | … | … | 7·2 | 8·70 | 9·00 | 9·00 | 10·2 | 12·10 | 42·3 | 53·0 | 57·6 | 57·6 | 65·5 | 80·00 |
| Yorkshire | … | … | 10·06 | 11·70 | 13·80 | 16·00 | 17·1 | 21·00 | 40·91 | 50·8 | 60·28 | 68·83 | 74·10 | 90·90 |
| Anglian | … | … | 7·6 | 9·70 | 11·40 | 10·6 | 12·38 | 15·64 | 37·8 | 56·7 | 70·30 | 74·7 | 86·0 | 106·00 |
| Thames | … | … | 3·85 | 4·88 | 5·49 | 5·98 | 6·86 | 8·67 | 35·0 | 45·0 | 51·0 | 56·5 | 59·0 | 71·00 |
| Southern | … | … | 6·7 | 7·50 | 8·70 | 9·5 | 10·0 | 130·0 | 43·2 | 47·0 | 56·0 | 60·0 | 64·1 | 80·00 |
| Wessex | … | … | 7·5 | 9·40 | 11·40 | 13·8 | 16·0 | 18·60 | 45·74 | 50·1 | 62·7 | 77·46 | 87·24 | 97·97 |
| SouthWest | … | … | 9·6 | 12·10 | 14·10 | 14·7 | 16·0 | 18·50 | 48·7 | 59·6 | 69·8 | 80·2 | 84·5 | 97·70 |
| Welsh | … | … | 16·0 | 19·00 | 21·20 | 19·0 | 21·02 | 25·28 | 51·7 | 56·0 | 64·0 | 64·0 | 74·0 | 86·40 |
| National Average | … | … | 6·87 | 8·19 | 9·22 | 9·7 | 10·70 | 13·18 | 42·37 | 50·4 | 58·3 | 63·7 | 67·82 | 82·29 |
Footnote
The average equated rate poundage takes account of any standing charge that are, in certain cases levied by Water authorities for unmeasured water supplies. It has not been practicable to adjust the measured charge per 1,000 gallons for standing charges.
Domestic And Industrial Rates
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the total value of domestic and industrial rates; and what increase in the standard rate of income tax would be required to raise this sum.
Rates from all sectors raised about £6·8 billion in the United Kingdom in 1979–80. This would have been equivalent to the revenue in that year from about an additional 14p on the basic rate of income tax.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what study he has made of the numbers of people who would be available for other duties if domestic rates were abolished;(2) what study he has made of the numbers of people who would be available for other duties if domestic and industrial rates were abolished.
We are currently reviewing alternatives to domestic rates. One aspect that has to be considered is the administrative cost and manpower that would be needed for any new local tax, and the offsetting savings there would be on the rating side. We are not considering the abolition of non-domestic rates, and are not making any studies of the implications of doing so.
Northern Ireland
Planning Decisions (Belfast)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, in the light of the concern about the destruction of an historic part of the city of Belfast as a result of planning decisions, if he will make a statement on the reasons for these decisions and the advice on which they were based.
I understand that the hon. Member is referring to the area of Donegall Quay, Belfast, and in particular the private premises of James Tedford and Company Limited. No premises there including those of Tedford have been the subject of any recent planning decisions. In March 1979 the Department of the Environment for Northern Ireland acquired property in Donegall Quay with a view to using part of it for car-parking purposes. This property includes part of the premises occupied by Tedford, but there are no plans to require that firm to vacate the premises.
Divis Flats
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will ascertain from the Northern Ireland Housing Executive the total number of dwellings to be demolished at Divis Flats, the total number of tenants in arrears and the total amount of the arrears in the section to be demolished; what steps will be taken to collect arrears; whether or not those tenants in arrears will be allocated a new dwelling while in arrears; and how this policy compares with the policy in the South-Eastern region with regard to allocations to those in arrears.
These are primarily matters for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, but I understand that 172 dwellings will disappear with demolition of the Whitehall and Farset blocks in the Divis Flats complex and that the total arrears of tenants in these blocks at 18 April 1980 was £44,624.
Fire Prevention
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many premises were visited by fire prevention officers in Northern Ireland in the past 12 months.
6,990 in the 12 months ending 31 March 1980.
Fire Service
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many calls were answered by the Fire Service in 1979; how many were false alarms; and how many persons were prosecuted for raising false alarms.
The information is as follows:
| No. of calls answered | 14,314 |
| No. of false alarms | 2,996 |
| Prosecutions | NIL |
Easter Parades
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many parades took place on Easter Sunday, 6 April, in Northern Ireland; by whom they were organised; and for which parades the statutory notice was given by the organisers to the Royal Ulster Constabulary; and how many prosecutions have resulted.
Nineteen parades are known to have taken place in Northern Ireland on Easter Sunday, and all are believed to have been organised by various Republican groups. All the parades were traditional and therefore no notification was required, but in certain cases this was nonetheless given. The police are investigating a number of offences committed during some of the parades, but there have so far been no prosecutions.
Northern Ireland Advisory Commission On Human Rights
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the cost of the seminar organised by the Northern Ireland Advisory Commission on human rights to discuss a Bill of Rights; and what statutory authority it has for holding such meetings.
Final details of the cost of the Bill of Rights seminar held on 18/19 April are not yet available, but it is not expected that it will exceed £2,000.The Standing Advisory Commission on human rights was established under the Northern Ireland Constitution Act 1973 to advise the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland on the effectiveness of the Province's laws in preventing, and providing redress against, religious or political discrimination. It is entirely appropriate that the Commission should promote discussion of whether a Bill of Rights might improve the legal safeguards available to citizens; and I supported it in so doing.
Constitutional Conference (Parallel Talks)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, pursuant to the written answer of 22 April to the hon. Member for Armagh, on how many days during the existence of the Stormont conference and up until 20 April he met for parallel talks (a) the SDLP and Alliance Party together and (b) the SDLP alone; whether the same facilities and expenses were allowed for the participants to these talks; and to what they amounted.
During the period 7 January to 20 April 1980 I held separate parallel talks with the SDLP on five occasions, and with the Alliance Party on two occasions. No joint parallel talks were held. Participants at these talks were entitled to claim expenses on the same basis as delegates to the political conference and a total of £807 has been paid in respect of such claims.
Northern Ireland Boundary Commission
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland when he expects the Northern Ireland Boundary Commission to announce the programme of public hearings on its proposals.
I understand that the Boundary Commission for Northern Ireland is at present examining representations made to it about its provisional recommendations. No arrangements for any local inquiry will be made until this examination has been completed.
Electricity Inter-Connector
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether the Government intend to restore the electricity inter-connector between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
Yes. The electricity interconnecter between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland has been out of action since 1975 as a result of repeated terrorist activity, which has so far also prevented its restoration. Restoration of the link would result in substantial benefit not only to Northern Ireland but also, as the Government of the Republic have made clear, to the people of the Republic of Ireland as well. There is close agreement between both Governments on this subject and I have no hesitation in supporting the recent statement by the Government of the Republic which condemned the intimidation of Northern Ireland Electricity Service workers engaged on repairing this link, and indicated our joint determination to restore and maintain it.
Extraditions
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the percentage of the 37 persons extradited between 1976 and 1979 from the Republic of Ireland to Northern Ireland who were facing terrorist-type charges in Northern Ireland.
About 3 per cent. (1 person).
Terrorist Incident (Enniskillin)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland under what circumstances an Army officer was seriously injured by an Irish Republican Army bomb in Enniskillin, County Fermanagh, on 30 April.
On Wednesday 30 April at approximately 0820 hours, the officer in question left his home in Enniskillin and got into his car which was parked outside. As he started the engine an explosion occurred.The officer is at present in hospital recovering from his injuries and the police are continuing with their investigations.
Terrorist Incident (Larne)
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement on the circumstances under which the town of Larne was bombed by the Irish Republican Army on Tuesday 29 April; what amounts of explosives were used; what is the estimated amount of damage; and what arrests have been made.
At 1645 hours on Tuesday 29 April, the telephonist at the King's Arms hotel, Larne, received a telephone call giving warning of a 3001b car bomb in the hotel car park.At 1650, the Samaritans in Belfast received a similar telephone call but giving in addition the registration number of the car involved. The police were informed and the area was evacuated. At 1701 hours the bomb exploded resulting in extensive structural damage to the hotel and the demolition of its ballroom. Other premises within 300 yards of the hotel sustained extensive blast damage and four people were treated for shock and minor injuries.The police are continuing with their investigations, but to date no arrests have been made. The cost of the damage is still being assessed.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department and by private industry in the Province, respectively.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Royal Society For The Prevention Of Accidents
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how much his Department has paid to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents in each of the last four years; and if he will provide a breakdown of the figures.
I shall reply to the hon. Member as soon as possible.
Human Rights
asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many letters the Government and Her Majesty's representatives overseas received in 1979 alleging violations of human rights in Northern Ireland; and what is the usual form of reply.
[pursuant to his reply, 2 May 1980, c. 714]: My office dealt with approximately 40 letters of various kinds containing such allegations in 1979. The number of letters received at British Embassies and other overseas missions could only be established at disproportionate cost; I understand that the British Embassy in Washington dealt with about 100. The form of reply varies according to the length and subject matter of the original letter; most however set out the measures which the Government have taken to protect human rights in Northern Ireland.
Industry
Biotechnology (Spinks Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will take steps to implement the various recommendations of the Spinks Report on Biotechnology as far as his Department is concerned; and if he will make a statement.
The recommendations of the Spinks report on biotechnology are under consideration and the Government hope to publish its response in July.
National Enterprise Board (Report)
asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he expects to receive the report of the National Enterprise Board for the year ended 31 December 1979; and how soon thereafter he expects such a report to be published.
My right hon. Friend received the report on Friday 2 May. I understand that the board will publish it on 6 May, and copies will be laid before Parliament that day.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department; and whether he is able to make an estimate of the cost of training carried out by the private sector.
| Year | Government support £ | NCC earnings £ | Earnings as a percentage of total income | ||||||
| 1 April 1966–31 March 1967 | … | … | … | 290,000 | 19,174 | 6·20 | |||
| 1967–68 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 797,000 | 257,213 | 24·40 |
| 1968–69 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 550,000 | 270,694 | 32·98 |
| 1969–70 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 627,400 | 322,980 | 33·98 |
| 1970–71 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 637,651 | 370,100 | 36·73 |
| 1971–72 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 611,774 | 441,569 | 41·92 |
| 1972–73 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 590,000 | 547,671 | 48·14 |
| 1973–74 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 570,000 | 699,138 | 55·09 |
| 1974–75 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 670,890 | 855,685 | 55·93 |
| 1975–76 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 877,439 | 1,084,620 | 55·17 |
| 1976–77 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 914,830 | 1,117,386 | 50·80 |
| 1977–78 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1,010,262 | 1,505,463 | 55·60 |
| 1978–79 | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1,004,748 | 2,030,589 | 60·27 |
| 1979–80 (estimaed) | … | … | … | … | … | 1,139,665 | 3,220,412 | 73·86 | |
The estimated cost of training Department of Industry staff during the academic year 1978–79 was £l·5 million. This figure includes the salary and related costs of the students but excludes travel and subsistence costs, which are not separately identifiable.I am not able to estimate the cost of training carried out by the private sector.
National Computing Centre
asked the Secretary of State for Industry how much money has been given by his Department to the National Computing Centre for each year since it was established; how much money it earned through its activities in each year; and if he will list the latter as a percentage of its total income in any one year.
The figures requested are given in the following table. For the 11 years to 1 April 1977, Government support for the National Computing Centre was provided in the form of a grant-in-aid from the sponsoring Department (Ministry of Technology, Department of Trade and Industry or Department of Industry). Since April 1977, Government funding has been provided in the form of specific contracts from the Department of Industry's computers, systems and electronics requirements board. The figures shown in the table for Government support and for total income exclude the payment to the centre of a building grant totalling £1,568,185 over the five years 1972–77.
asked the Secretary of State for Industry what plans he has for the future funding of the National Computing Centre in general and specifically with regard to the international discussions it holds on standards for the computing industry; and if he will make a statement.
Government funding for work at the National Computing Centre, including work on standardisation, will continue to be channelled through contracts from the Department of Industry's Computers, Systems and Electronics Requirements Board. In the financial year 1980–81, the centre is expected to receive a total of £800,000 from the Department, £103,000 of which will be devoted specifically to standardisation. These departmental funds represent some 15 per cent. of the centre's anticipated total income of £5·3 million for 1980–81.I expect this broad pattern to continue, subject to the Requirements Board's approval of the centre's proposals for subsequent years, and subject to the centre's ability to secure work from other customers.
British Shipbuilders
asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he will announce the name of the new chairman of British Shipbuilders.
Mr. Robert Atkinson, executive chairman of Aurora Holdings Ltd., has accepted my invitation to succeed Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin on 1 July. The appointment will be full time and for three and a half years. Mr. Atkinson has told me that he would like to make a start with British Shipbuilders as soon as possible and I am therefore appointing him as a part-time member of the board for one month from 1 June.Mr. Atkinson's appointment will be on the basis of secondment from Aurora. He will continue as part-time chairman of Aurora Holdings.I would like to express my warm thanks to Admiral Griffin for his valuable service as chairman over the first three years of British Shipbuilders' existence and before that as chairman of the Organising Committee.
Defence
Service Personnel (Middle East Secondment)
asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many members of the British Armed Forces are on secondment to countries in the Middle East: and if he will list those countries, together with the number of British personnel serving in them.
On 31 December 1979 there were, in all, 311 British loan Service personnel present in the following Middle Eastern countries: Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. It is not the practice to disclose numbers of personnel in individual countries: details of arrangements between Governments are confidential.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department.
The estimated total current annual cost of the education and training of civilian staff employed by the Ministry of Defence is as follows:
| Non-industrial staff— | £21,000,000 |
| Industrial staff— | £40,000,000 (of which £38,000,000 is the cost of apprentice training) |
Fighting Vehicle 432
asked the Secretary of State for Defence when a specification for the replacement of the fighting vehicle 432 was first formulated: and when it was changed to allow consideration of the United States infantry fighting vehicle as well as the British mechanised combat vehicle.
A general staff requirement for a replacement armoured personnel carrier was first formulated in 1972. Following detailed studies a revised general staff requirement was endorsed in 1976 and has not since been changed. It is against the unchanged 1976 general staff requirement that both the United States infantry fighting vehicle and the British mechanised combat vehicle are now being evaluated.
European Community Budget (United Kingdom Contribution)
asked the Prime Minister whether the ceiling on United Kingdom net contribution suggested at the Luxembourg conference of £325 million assumed that the benefit of monetary compensatory amounts on trade between the United Kingdom and other European Economic Community countries accrue to the United Kingdom.
At present we have a positive MCA for milk products and only a small negative MCA for other products, so the effect on the calculations of the method of constructing MCAs would be likely to be small in the current year.
asked the Prime Minister what arguments were put forward by European Heads of Government to suggest that the United Kingdom's net contribution to the EEC budget should be as high as £325 million per year.
After the Dublin European Council in November 1979 I made it clear that, in order to achieve a genuine compromise, we were willing to be a modest net contributor to the Community budget. At Luxembourg we discussed what a reasonable level of net contribution might be. A number of proposals, supported by differing arguments, were advanced during the discussions. Amongst the proposals the lowest sum was for £325 million in 1980. The
| PLACES AVAILABLE IN LOCAL AUTHORITY RESIDENTIAL ACCOMMODATION FOR THE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED * | ||||||
| Year | ||||||
| 1975 | 1976 | 1977 | 1978 | 1979 | ||
| Clwyd | … | 86 | 86 | 124 | 94 | 80 |
| Dyfed | … | 41 | 41 | 41 | 41 | 41 |
| Gwent | … | 75 | 76 | 71 | 100 | 95 |
| Gwynedd | … | 20 | 48 | 48 | 63 | 83 |
| Mid Glamorgan | … | 70 | 96 | 96 | 117 | 143 |
| Powys | … | — | — | 20 | 44 | 53 |
| South Glamorgan | … | 115 | 114 | 120 | 125 | 135 |
| West Glamorgan | … | 34 | 38 | 38 | 38 | 38 |
| Wales | … | 441 | 499 | 558 | 622 | 668 |
| * Places in local authority staffed and unstaffed homes at 31 March of each year. Includes places in homes which cater for both the mentally ill and mentally handicapped. | ||||||
problem which prevented agreement was how much we should pay in succeeding years.
Wales
Mentally Handicapped Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a table showing progress since 1971 towards the objectives of the White Paper, " Better Services for the Mentally Handicapped " for places in adult training centres, giving statistics for each county in Wales.
The table below gives the number of places per 100,000 population at adult training centres in the Welsh counties at 31 March 1979:
| Clwyd | 98·7 |
| Dyfed | 97·5 |
| Gwent | 109·6 |
| Gwynedd | 86·6 |
| Mid Glamorgan | 100·4 |
| Powys | 94·3 |
| South Glamorgan | 70·0 |
| West Glamorgan | 70·9 |
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what was the total number of places available in local authority residential accommodation for mentally handicapped persons for each county of Wales for each of the years 1974 to the latest available date.
The information is as follows:
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a table showing the number of places in adult training centres for the mentally handicapped in each county of Wales for each
| PLACES IN ADULT TRAINING CENTRES FOR THE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED* (INCLUDING SPECIAL UNITS) | ||||||
| Year | ||||||
| 1975 | 1976 | 1977 | 1978 | 1979 | ||
| Clwyd | … | 347 | 347 | 379 | 357 | 377 |
| Dyfed | … | 207 | 217 | 317 | 317 | 317 |
| Gwent | … | 367 | 415 | 435 | 435 | 480 |
| Gwynedd | … | 127 | 173 | 173 | 175 | 196 |
| Mid Glamorgan | … | 345 | 540 | 540 | 540 | 540 |
| Powys | … | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 | 100 |
| South Glamorgan | … | 275 | 275 | 270 | 270 | 270 |
| West Glamorgan | … | 282 | 260 | 260 | 260 | 260 |
| Wales | … | 2,050 | 2,327 | 2,474 | 2,454 | 2,540 |
| * Places at 31 March including places for the mentally handicapped, severely handicapped and other conditions. | ||||||
Housing " Improvement For Sale Scheme "
asked the Secretary of State for Wales from what date he anticipates that the " Improvement for Sale Scheme " will be available to local authorities in Wales; and how much money he has earmarked for the current financial year for the implementation of the scheme.
We can give no date yet, but we expect authorities to be able to start the scheme during this financial year. We have not earmarked money in the current financial year for the scheme: it is for each authority to decide what amount of its HIP allocation to spend on the scheme. An Exchequer contribution will be available as announced on 15 April in Standing Committee F on the Housing Bill.
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what additional capital funds he proposes making available to local authorities to take advantage of the new " Improvement for Sale Scheme "; and whether he will indicate to them that any capital tied up in this scheme, together with the interest paid on such capital, can be considered over and above the cash limit implications which otherwise constrain local government finance.
No additional funds will be made available to local authorities. Councils' capital expenditure on improvement for sale schemes will be found from their HIP allocation.
year from 1974 to the latest available date.
The information is as follows:Authorities will be able to augment their allocations by the use of receipts from sales. Full details of the working of the scheme will be circulated to local authorities in due course.
asked the Secretary of State for Wales whether, under his proposed " Improvement for Sale Scheme ", the net costs, on which the grants to local authorities will be computed, can include legal, administrative and interest costs associated with the purchase and the sale of the property being renovated.
Details of the working of the improvement for sale scheme will be circulated to local authorities in due course. It will cover the points raised by the hon. Member.
Older Houses
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the average cost of an unmodernised pre-1919 terraced house in Wales on the basis of the latest estimates.
Reliable information is not available. Costs vary widely depending on the accommodation, its condition, and local demand.
Nurses (Pay)
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will give an assurance that the 14 per cent. cash limit on increase on nurses' pay in Wales will be lifted when the Clegg report is considered later in the current year.
No. It is the Government's policy that pay awards should be negotiated within the framework of the published cash limits.
Marginal Land
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what are the approximate acreages of marginal land in the counties of Clwyd, Dyfed, Gwynedd and Powys, respectively.
My right hon. Friend the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food announced on 1 February that further field work was necessary to define or confim areas of marginal land. Until this is completed it is not possible to estimate acreages for particular counties.
Winter Floods
asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will take steps to set up an independent public inquiry into the circumstances that led up to the widespread floods in Wales in the winter of 1979, and the warning procedures currently in operation.
No. These matters are under review by the local authorities, the police and the Welsh Water Authority and appropriate action to deal with future emergencies is already in hand. I do not believe that a public inquiry would further matters.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department; and whether he is able to make an estimate of the cost of training carried out by the private sector in Wales.
The cost of training non-industrial Welsh Office staff for the year ended 31 July 1979 was about £0·21 million. This figure covers training given within the Department, at the Civil Service College and externally. It excludes the basic staff costs of the students and their related travelling and subsistence costs. I am unable to make any estimate of the cost of private sector training in Wales.
Royal Society For The Prevention Of Accidents
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how much his Department has paid to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents in each of the last four years; and if he will provide a breakdown of the figures.
The information is as follows:
| 1976–77 | £ |
| Salaries, pensions, National Insurance | 26,684 |
| Transport | 4,500 |
| Establishment | 3,250 |
| 34,434 | |
| 1977–78 | |
| Salaries, Pensions, National Insurance | 26,667 |
| Transport | 5,200 |
| Establishment | 4,250 |
| 36,117 | |
| 1978–79 | |
| Salaries, Pensions, National Insurance | 29,334 |
| Transport | 7,080 |
| Establishment | 4,495 |
| Road Safety Education, Training and Publicity | 14,000 |
| 54,909 | |
| 1979–80 | |
| Salaries, Pensions, National Insurance | 35,610 |
| Transport | 7,549 |
| Establishment | 5,120 |
| Road Safety Education, Training and Publicity | 20,613 |
| 68,892 | |
Welsh Language
asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many students are currently studying Welsh in universities and polytechnics.
In 1978–79, the last academic year for which information is available, there were 292 students studying Welsh and/or other Celtic languages as a single subject in the University of Wales and the Polytechnic of Wales. The great majority of these were studying Welsh alone. Information about the total number of students studying Welsh in combination with other subjects is not readily available.
Civil Service
Education And Training Costs
asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department.
The estimated annual cost in 1980–81 of education and training by the Civil Service Department (CSD) is as follows:
| 1. The Civil Service College | £5,438,000 |
| 2. Central Civil Service Training Policy | £409,000 |
| 3. Training of Civil Service Department staff | £992,000 |
Select Committees (Evidence)
asked the Minister for Civil Service when the revised memorandum of guidance to officials on the provision of evidence to Select Committees is to be issued to Departments; and if he will notify the hon. Member for Ormskirk when a copy is placed in the Library.
I expect the memorandum to be issued to Departments within about two weeks, and will notify the hon. Member when a copy has been placed in the Library.
"Day Of Action"
asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he intends to proceed against civil servants who participate in the Trades Union Congress "Day of Action" for breach of contract or other civil wrongs, inasmuch as their actions will not be in furtherance of any trades dispute.
I have nothing to add to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Louth (Mr. Brotherton) on 15 April—[Vol. 982, c. 585]—except to stress my strong hope that civil servants will not take part in any of the protests planned for 14 May.
Agriculture, Fisheries And Food
Krill
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether there is sufficient scientific evidence available to indicate what catches of Krill may be allowed, and in what areas in the southern oceans, without affecting the recovery of populations of severely endangered whale species, such as the Blue and Humpback whales.
The International Whaling Commission recognises that the exploitation of krill in the southern oceans may affect whale stocks to an extent that at present is largely unknown; it will consider the implications for whales of management regimes for other marine resources at its 32nd annual meeting in July. The proposed Convention for the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living Resources will offer a means of ensuring that krill is harvested at levels which take into account the requirements of whales and other dependent species in the area.
Yorkshire Water Authority (River Went)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether any objections have been received to the application by the Yorkshire water authority for a variation of its main river map in relation to the River Went.
One holding objection has been received, but I understand that this is likely to be withdrawn. In addition, informal comments have been made by a local authority in the area concerned. These are under consideration.
Pig Breeding Herd
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the present size of the United Kingdom pig breeding herd; and what were the comparable figures in (a) the livestock census of 1975 and (b) that of 1970.
In December 1979, the most recent census for which results are available, the provisional number of sows and gilts in pig was 816 thousand head compared with 845 and 986 thousand head in December 1975 and 1970 respectively.
Beef Herd
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is
| December 1970 | December 1975 | December 1979 (provisional) | |||
| Beef cows and heifers in milk | … | … | 573,050 | 825,362 | 734,685 |
| Beef cows in calf but not in milk | … | … | 757,080 | 996,769 | 800,265 |
| Total | … | … | 1,330,130 | 1,822,131 | 1,534,950 |
European Community (Fishing Subsidies)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will intiate inquiries to allow the publication in the Official Report of a complete survey of all governmental aid and subsidies to fishing in other Common Market countries.
The Government are aware of the main features of the measures taken by other Governments in the European Community to help their fishing industries. It would, however, be a major task to prepare a fully comprehensive survey of all the national, regional and local measures which could be considered to be direct or indirect aids or subsidies to the industry in a form appropriate for publication. I would not regard this as an appropriate use of my Department's limited resources.
Redmeat Slaughterhouse Industry Scheme
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give urgent consideration to extending beyond November the closing date for applications under the United Kingdom Government redmeat slaughterhouse industry scheme.
My right hon. Friends the Minister and the Secretary of State for Industry see no reason to make a further extension to the period for applications under the redmeat slaughterhouse industry scheme.
the present size of the United Kingdom beef herd; and what were the comparable figures in ( a) the livestock census of 1975 and ( b) that of 1970.
The size of the United Kingdom beef herd based on the December sample agricultural census returns was:
Forestry Commission
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what has been the total subsidy to the Forestry Commission over the last 10 years.
The total grant-in-aid drawn into the forestry fund from the Exchequer between 1 April 1969 and 31 March 1979, the latest date for which figures are available, was £2004 million. Of this amount £151·7 million was allocated to the Forestry Enterprise, which manages the commission's woodlands, and £48·7 million to the Forestry Authority covering grants to private woodland owners, the administration of grant schemes, felling licensing and plant health, and a proportion of the commission's expenditure on research and development.
Mackerel
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what estimate he has made of the value and amount of mackerel caught by EEC vessels, other than British, in United Kingdom waters since the United Kingdom ban.
There is no general United Kingdom ban on fishing for mackerel, although an area off southwest England of some 4,000 square nautical miles was closed on 17 March until 15 November to fishing for mackerel by any vessel with purse seines or trawls of less than 70mm; fishing for mackerel in ICES areas VI, VII and VIII by United Kingdom vessels of over 60ft registered length has been suspended since 16 February. There is insufficient information available to enable me to provide the estimates requested in respect of either the period since 17 March or the period since 16 February.
European Agricultural Guidance And Guarantee Fund
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the current rate of interest charged by the EEC for loans from the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund; and how it varies from the market rate of interest currently prevailing in each of the member countries of the EEC.
I know of no loans made by the European Community from the European agricultural guidance and guarantee fund.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Minister of Agriculture and Fisheries and Food what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department.
The cost of training both industrial and non-industrial staff in my Department in the year ended 31 July 1979 was approximately £3 million. This includes all training given to staff within the Department, at the Civil Service college, or externally, and covers direct expenditure on training—mainly fees for external courses—staff time, accommodation and equipment and expenditure on travelling and subsistence.
Herring
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has accepted the 5 per cent. by-catch on herring for Community vessels fishing in United Kingdom waters; and whether this agreement was reached after consultation with the responsible bodies representing the fishing industry.
EEC regulation 754/80 fixing total allowable catches for 1980 requires that, except in specified areas off the south-west approaches where special provisions apply, by-catches of herring landed at the end of each voyage may not exceed 10 per cent. by weight of catches of sprat and 5 per cent. of catches of other species. Representatives of the fishing industry had general discussions with my right hon. Friend and myself before the last Fisheries Council: the provision about by-catches was not specifically discussed.
European Community Loans (Interest Rates)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list in the Official Report the rates of interest currently available to farmers in each of the member countries of the EEC for approved capital projects and for current working capital, respectively.
The following table, which is taken from a reply which was given by the Commission in answer to a question in the European Parliament, sets out the average annual interest rates which are paid by farmers in the Community on loans for investment during 1979. There have been several movements in rates since the table was compiled:
| Country | 1979 % |
| West Germany | |
| —short term | )6·8 |
| —long term | ) |
| France | |
| —short term | 8·5 |
| —medium term | 90 |
| —long term | 10·3 |
| Italy | |
| —medium term | : |
| —long term | 14·5 |
| Netherlands | |
| —short & medium term | 10–3 |
| —long term | 9·1 |
| Belgium | |
| —short term | )9·8 |
| —long term | ) |
| Luxembourg | |
| —short term | 7·8 |
| —medium & long term | ) |
| United Kingdom | |
| —short term | 15·6 |
| —medium term | 14·5 |
| —long term | |
| —fixed | 14·5 |
| —variable | 15·5 |
| Ireland | |
| —short term | 15·0 |
| —medium term | 12·0 |
| —long term | 16·0 |
| Denmark | |
| —medium term | (Jan. 1978 to 16·8 |
| —long term | June 1979) 17·9 |
Notes:
1. These figures do not take into account interest rate subsidies. (It is estimated that, in 1978, expenditure on interest rate subsidies for FEOGA-aided measures was FF66·8 million in France, DM597 million in W. Germany and LIT2551·3 million in Italy. Official figures are, however, not available.)
2. All member States may give interest rate subsidies of up to 5 per cent.—7 per cent. in less favoured regions—or their capital grant equivalents, in respect of investments necessary for carrying out development plans in accordance with directive 72/159 on modernisation of farms.
The following table sets out the latest available information on European Community interest rates on borrowings to provide working capital:
Short-Term Interest Rates As At 15 April 1980
Belgium
17·75 min and 0·125 per cent. per quarter on limit of facility.
Denmark
15–17 plus a commission of 0·5–0.75 per cent. per quarter on limit of facility and establishment commission of 1·50–2 per cent. flat.
France
14·80 plus commission of 0·05 per cent. per month on highest debit balance in month.
Italy
21·50
Luxembourg
9·50–10–75
The Netherlands
13·50–14 including surcharge of 1 per cent.
Republic of Ireland
18–18·75
United Kingdom
18–23
West Germany
11–13·25 sometimes reduced for first-class borrowers.
Source: Williams & Glyn's Bank Ltd. European Interest Rates.
Doorstep Milk Deliveries
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what further plans he has to safeguard the doorstep delivery service of milk in the United Kingdom; and if he will make a statement.
We remain convinced of the value of the doorstep delivery service to producers, distributors and consumers of milk. We shall continue to do all that we can to support the service.
Monetary Compensatory Amounts
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the size of each EEC member States' monetary compensatory amount percentage points; and which were negative and positive, respectively, on the latest available date.
The monetary compensatory amounts which apply from 5 May are:
| per cent. | |
| Germany | |
| Milk and milk products | + 10·8 |
| other products. | + 9·8 |
| Belgium /Luxembourg | |
| Milk and milk products | + 2·4 |
| other products | + 1·9 |
| Netherlands | |
| Milk and milk products | + 2·4 |
| other products | + 1·9 |
| Denmark | Nil |
| Ireland | Nil |
| France | |
| pigmeat, wine, milk and milk products, beef | Nil |
| other products | - 3·7 |
| Italy | |
| milk and milk products, beef | - 2·6 |
| wine | - 4·2 |
| other products | - 8·1 |
| United Kingdom | |
| cereals, eggs and poultry | - 1·0 |
| other products | + 1·7 |
European Community (Green Rates)
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether an EEC member State requires a decision of the EEC Council of Ministers to adjust its green rate; and if so, whether such a decision requires a qualified majority.
"Yes", to both questions. But, as I explained in my statement to the House on 31 March, the Council has agreed, on our insistence, that any member State may ask for a reduction in negative MCAs and that agreement to such a decision should be independent of agreements on matters of another nature.
Agricultural Commodity Prices
asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (1) whether an increase in the common prices of an agricultural commodity for which there is a régime within the EEC requires a unanimous decision of the Council of Ministers;(2) whether a decision to extend the marketing year for a commodity covered by the common agricultural policy requires a unanimous decision of the-Council of Ministers.
Under the Treaty unanimity is not required.
Scotland
Untreated Milk
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received from individuals and organisations stating (a) their opposition to, and (b) their support for his decision to restrict after 31 July 1983, retail sales of untreated milk to areas where a supply of heat-treated milk is not readily available.
I have received representations from five individuals from Scotland and one from England, and from three organisations. All expressed opposition to the decision.
Stonefield Vehicles
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations have been made to him by the Scottish Development Agency with regard to financial investment by it in Stonefield Vehicles.
Last year the Scottish Development Agency sought my right hon. Friend's agreement to increase its investment in Stonefield Vehicles. The Government made it clear that SDA funds should not alone provide the very substantial development and marketing support which had become necessary and that a private sector contribution should be sought.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list all directions given by him to the Scottish Development Agency regarding the sale of its investments in any company; and what directions he has made in connection with Stonefield Vehicles.
My right hon. Friend has made no use of his formal powers of direction under section 4 of the Scottish Development Agency Act 1975.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will now approve financial assistance being made available to Stonefield Vehicles from the Scottish Development Agency until such time as an offer is accepted for the sale or part of the Scottish Development Agency investment in Stonefield Vehicles.
The agency was given approval to invest further money in this company earlier this year to enable it to find a private partner capable of providing the development and marketing support now needed. Negotiations are at present in progress and I hope very much that they will prove successful.
Firearms And Shotguns
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is proposing any alteration in the existing legislation for the issue of licences for firearms and shotguns; and if he will list the measures he intends to place before the House for approval.
I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department to my hon. Friend the Member for Devon North (Mr. Speller) on 6 March 1980.—[Vol. 980, c. 293.] An order increasing the level of fees charged in Scotland under the firearms legislation will be laid before the House very shortly.
Health Boards
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will increase the amount of money allocated to each health board to allow the board to protect and maintain services now that the rate of inflation is higher than that budgeted for in 1980–81.
No.
Fishing Industry
asked the Secretary of of State for Scotland if he will take steps to make compensation available to the Scottish fishing industry for the loss of access to fishing grounds once the seventh licensing round on oil and gas exploration in the North Sea has been allocated and for fishermen whose gear is seriously damaged as a result of debris left by oil and gas operations.
The industry's representatives were told in October of last year that the Government were unable on the evidence produced to accept that a claim on public funds for loss of access to fishing grounds as a result of offshore oil activity has been proved. They have recently indicated that they would like to discuss their claim with Ministers. Arrangements for this are in hand and the discussion will take account of the Government's proposed seventh round of offshore licensing. A fund financed by the oil companies for damage to fishing gear caused by oil-related debris already exists.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department; and whether he is able to make an estimate of the cost of training carried out by the private sector in Scotland.
The Estimates total cost of training by all sources for the Scottish Office during 1978–79 was £2·25 million which includes salaries and related costs
| £ million at 1979 1979–80 | survey prices*1980–81 | |
| (a) Local Authorities | ||
| CURRENT EXPENDITURE | ||
| General subsidies— | ||
| Rate fund contributions to local authority housing | 48 | |
| Total general subsidies | 48 | |
| Rent rebates— | ||
| Rate fund contributions | 4 | |
| Rent allowances | 2 | |
| Total income related subsidies | 6 | |
| Administration— | ||
| Local authorities | 2 | |
| Total current expenditure | 56 | 59 |
| CAPITAL EXPENDITURE | ||
| Local authority gross expenditure— | ||
| Land | 6 | |
| New dwellings | 93 | |
| Improvement investment | 97 | |
| Other | 9 | |
| Improvement grants | 19 | |
| Gross lending to private persons for house purchase and improvement | 20 | |
| Loans and grants to housing associations | 5 | |
| Total local authority gross expenditure | 248 | 215 |
| Sales and repayments— | ||
| Land and dwellings— | ||
| Local authorities | - 11 | |
| Associated lending (gross) | 6 | |
| Repayments | - 1 | |
| Repayments of loans to private persons for house purchase and improvements | - 14 | |
| Repayment of loans to housing associations | - 1 | |
| Total sales and repayment | –21 | –33 |
| Total capital expenditure | 228 | 182 |
| Total local authority expenditure | 284 | 241 |
of students but excludes travel and subsistence, figures for which are not separately available. It is not possible to estimate the cost of training carried out by the private sector in Scotland.
Housing Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a breakdown of the figures in the public expenditure White Paper for housing in 1979–80 and 1980–81 by (a) local authorities, (b) the Scottish Special Housing Association, (c) the Housing Corporation and housing associations and (d) others.
The information requested is set out in the table below. Apart from central Government expenditure on housing, the only expenditure falling under the "others" heading is by new towns.
| £ million at 1979 1979–80 | survey prices*1980–81 | ||||||||||
| (b) Scottish Special Housing Association | |||||||||||
| CAPITAL EXPENDITURE | |||||||||||
| Scottish Special Housing Association gross investment— | |||||||||||
| Land | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | |
| New dwellings | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 19 | ||
| Acquisitions | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 1 | ||
| Improvements | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 12 | ||
| Total Scottish Special Housing Association gross investment | … | 33 | 31 | ||||||||
| Sales and repayments—Land and dwellings— | |||||||||||
| Scottish Special Housing Association | … | … | … | … | |||||||
| Associated lending (gross) | … | … | … | … | … | — | |||||
| Total sales and repayments | … | … | … | … | — | –2 | |||||
| Total capital expenditure | … | … | … | … | … | 33 | 29 | ||||
| (c) Housing Corporation and Housing Associations | |||||||||||
| CAPITAL EXPENDITURE | |||||||||||
| Housing Corporation schemes— | |||||||||||
| Loans and grants to housing association— | |||||||||||
| Gross | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 45 | ||
| Repayments | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | |||
| Total Housing Corporation | … | … | … | … | 45 | 46 | |||||
| (d) Others | |||||||||||
| CAPITAL EXPENDITURE | |||||||||||
| New Towns gross investment— | |||||||||||
| New dwellings | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | 30 | ||
| Total new towns gross investment | … | … | … | … | 30 | 26 | |||||
| Sales and repayments— | |||||||||||
| Land and dwellings— | |||||||||||
| New towns | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | –12 | 33 | ||
| Associated lending (gross) | … | … | … | … | … | 8 | — | ||||
| Repayments | … | … | … | … | … | … | … | — | |||
| Total sales and repayments | … | … | … | … | –4 | –6 | |||||
| Total capital expenditure | … | … | … | … | … | 26 | 20 | ||||
| * All the figures have been rounded to the nearest £ million and do not necessarily sum to the totals | |||||||||||
Renal Units
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what financial help was offered by the British Kidney Patients' Association to establish a renal unit in Glasgow; why it was refused; and what is his attitude towards encouraging fund-raising in the National Health Service from private sources.
The British Kidney Patients' Association has offered £300,000 to the Greater Glasgow health board for the treatment of renal disease in children. Though the offer has raised some problems for the Board in the allocation of its resources, it has not been refused, and the board is at present considering how the money may best be applied in a manner that would be acceptable to itself and to the association. Both the board and the Government are most grateful for this generous offer, and it is certainly the Government's aim to encourage the raising of funds for the National Health Service from private sources such as the association.
Rents
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish average annual rents for (a) local authority houses in Scotland and (b) Scottish Special Housing Association houses, for the last available period.
The average annual standard rent was £256 for local authority houses in Scotland at 30 September 1979 and was £282 for Scottish Special Housing Association houses at the same date.
Scottish Special Housing Association (Modernisation Projects)
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many representations he has received regarding postponements of the Scottish Special Housing Association modernisation projects.
Three.
Pulp Mill, Fort William
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what special Government grant was sought by Wiggins Teape and Consolidated Bathurst in connection with their proposed development of a newsprint plant at Corpach, Fort William; how this compared with the level of Government assistance offered; and if he will make a statement.
The companies made clear that government grants had to be considered together with a number of other factors. The amount of financial assistance available under section 7 of the Industry Act 1972 was similar to that offered for projects of comparable size and importance, and regional development grants would have been paid to the full extent of the statutory provisions.My ministerial colleagues and I, and officials in my Department, the Department of Industry and the Forestry Commission made every effort to devise an acceptable package of Government assistance and wood prices, and it was with great regret that we learned of the companies' conclusion that they could not manufacture newsprint competitively at Fort William.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether his Department was involved in discussions between Wiggins Teape and Consolidated Bathurst and the Forestry Commission regarding wood price for the proposed newsprint project at Corpach, Fort William; whether his Department gave any advice to the Forestry Commission regarding wood price; and what was the difference between the wood price offered by the Forestry Commission and the wood price sought by Wiggins Teape and Consolidated Bathurst.
There was close consultation between my Department and the Forestry Commission and the Department of Industry in preparing the package of Government financial assistance and wood prices for offer to the companies. Wood prices in the United Kingdom, which are similar to those in Europe generally, are currently at about twice the level of wood prices in North America which the companies had hoped to achieve.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will visit Fort William to discuss with the local authorities, the Fort William Action Group and other interested bodies the closure of the pulp mill and its impact on the area.
My hon. Friends and I will certainly respond sympathetically to invitations from any of these bodies.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what is the male unemployment rate in the Lochaber district of the Highland region at latest convenient date; and if he will estimate the likely figure which will result from the closure of the pulp mill at Fort William;(2) what is the male unemployment rate in Fort William at the latest convenient date; and what this figure is likely to be following the closure of the pulp mill there.
Unemployment figures are not available separately for the Lochaber district; the available figures relate to the Fort William travel to work area. The number of unemployed in the Fort William TTWA at April 1980 was:
| male | 309 (5·8 per cent.) |
| female | 282 (11·0 percent.) |
| total | 591 (7·5 per cent.) |
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the amount of public money, in terms of grants and loans, respectively, which has gone to the pulp mill at Fort William since its inception in 1963; and what proportion of these funds will be recovered.
Wiggins Teape has received grants and loans towards capital expenditure on the Fort William operation as a whole, comprising both the pulp and paper mills. It is not possible separately to identify the amounts of grants and loans paid in respect of expenditure on the pulp mill.Under the terms of the Fort William Pulp and Paper Mills Act 1963 the company received a loan of £8 million, most of which has already been repaid with interest. The balance of outstanding instalments, amounting in total to £15 million, is due to be completely paid off in June 1981.In addition regional development grants totalling £762,689 have been made to the company. These grants were made subject to conditions which required the company to notify the Department of Industry if the grant-aided assets were not brought into use or ceased to be used, and which imposed upon the grantee an obligation to repay the grant in whole or in part if either of these events occurred. The precise sum which the company would need to repay will depend upon the length of time the conditions have still to run and what ultimately happens to the assets after closure of the pulp mill.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the impact on employment in the forestry industry of the closure of the pulp mill at Fort William; and how many jobs will be directly lost in forestry and related haulage and contracting firms as the result of this closure.
The closure of the pulp mill would mean the loss of an important market for wood in Scotland, which would be bound to affect employment in forestry. At present, about 550 people are employed in the harvesting and transport of pulpwood to the mill through the Forestry Commission, private forestry, private harvesting companies and transport companies throughout the Highlands. But there are alternative uses for wood which will be actively developed and it is not therefore possible to predict the outcome in terms of employment.
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if the financial assistance offered to Wiggins Teape and Consolidated Bathurst in connection with the proposed production of newsprint at Corpach was the maximum possible under present statutory and departmental guidelines; and if he is satisfied that no more financial help could be made available, given the social and economic consequences to Fort William of the closure to the pulp mill.
I refer the hon. Member to my replies today to the hon. Member for Inverness (Mr. Johnston).
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement regarding his Department's negotiations with Wiggins Teape and Consolidated Bathurst regarding the future of the pulp mill at Fort William and the proposed joint venture to develop a newsprint mill there; and what were the reasons for the failure to reach agreement with his Department on wood costs and Government grants.
I refer the hon. Member to my replies today to the hon. Member for Inverness (Mr. Johnston).
Royal Society For The Prevention Of Accidents
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how much his Department has paid to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents for each of the last four years; and if he will provide a breakdown of the figures.
Grants are paid to the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents in respect of its road and home safety functions in Scotland. The sums paid during the last four financial years are as follows:
| Road Safety | |
| 1976–77 | 37,000 |
| 1977–78 | 39,930 |
| 1978–79 | 43,000 |
| 1979–80 | 54,041 |
| Home Safety | |
| 1976–77 | 3,500 |
| 1977–78 | 3,500 |
| 1978–79 | 5,500 |
| 1979–80 | 5,800 |
Blind Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what measures his Department is taking to encourage the employment of blind people; and if he will make a statement.
The Government attach great importance to assisting disabled people, including the blind, to obtain suitable employment. In addition to providing employment rehabilitation and training facilities, the Manpower Services Commission operates a number of specialist schemes to help disabled people obtain or retain employment. The Manpower Services Commission recently launched its new " Fit for Work " campaign, which is aimed at promoting a wider understanding among employers of the abilities and potential of disabled workers.
Hampden Park
asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what latest estimate he has made of the cost, at April 1980 prices, of redeveloping Hampden Park.(2) what facilities at Hampden Park were not covered by the redevelopment estimate of some £11 million; and what is his extra estimate, at current prices of redeveloping these facilities up to the required standard;(3) further to his answer to the hon. Member for Aberdeen, South regarding Government participation in the redevelopment of Hampden Park, if he will now give an assurance that no money whatsoever will be spent on such redevelopment until he has received a guarantee that 50 per cent. of the money, or the balance between the Government's £5·5 million and the actual cost, is available in full.
The preliminary estimate in April 1978 of the cost of redevelopment at Hampden Park, including the refurbishment of the South Stand, was £11 million. After detailed design work had been carried out Hampden Park Ltd concluded that this work, together with improvements to the original concept which they considered to be necessary, would cost about £16 million at April 1978 prices. Since the Government were not prepared to make a grant of more than £5·5 million, the company prepared a revised scheme, estimated to cost £11·3 million, which did not include the south stand; the cost of work on this stand was estimated at £3·5 million. The latest estimate of the total cost of the revised scheme, based on the forecast figures of the standard index, is in the region of £17·7 million. As regards the balance between the grant and the total cost, I am not at present able to add anything to the reply which I gave to my hon. Friend on 21 April.—[Vol. 983, c. 58.]
Education And Science
Tameside Reorganisation Scheme
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, in view of the urgent need to make proper arrangements in the current year for parents to have time to consider the choice of secondary schools for their children, he will now announce his decision on the Tameside education authority's reorganisation scheme.
I have today written to the Tameside authority, informing it of my decision to approve its proposals for reorganisation of the county secondary schools in the borough along comprehensive lines from September 1980.
Student Unions (Finance)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to complete his consideration of the arrangements for introducing the new system for the financing of student unions.
In good time for their introduction in the academic year 1981–82.
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department, and by the independent education sector, respectively.
In the financial year 1978–79 the total net recurrent and capital cost of maintained education in England and Wales and of universities in Great Britain was £8,270 million at outturn prices. Comparable data for the independent sector are not available.
Private Fee-Paying Schools
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will conduct an inquiry to assess the extent to which private fee-paying schools receive public assistance by way of public expenditure and financial concessions at national and local level.
No.
Institute Of Hearing Research
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the progress of the work of the Institute of Hearing Research.
The Institute of Hearing Research has just moved into its permanent building on the campus of Nottingham university. I also refer the
| Total number | Number on the first year of the course* | ||||||
| Physical education | … | … | … | … | 6,291 | 1,665 | |
| Mathematics | … | … | … | … | … | 1,752 | 438 |
| Science subjects | … | … | … | … | … | 2,798 | 608 |
| * The majority of these students will be on the third year of the course in the current academic year | |||||||
| In non-university institutions | In university departments of education | ||||||
| Physical education | … | … | … | … | 90 | 123 | |
| Mathematics | … | … | … | … | … | 235 | 401 |
| Science subjects | … | … | … | … | … | 472 | 971 |
Maintained School Pupils (Educational Attainments)
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list the qualifications of school leavers from maintained schools for each year from 1966 according to whether the pupils obtained (a) five or more CSE passes, (b) five or more CSE grade 1 passes, (c) five or more O-level passes, (d) five or more O-level passes at grades A to C, (e) one or
right hon. Member to the answers I gave to his questions on 25 July 1979 and 25 January 1980.—[Vol. 971. c. 276–77; Vol. 977. c. 404.] These gave details of the work of the institute, which continues. A report on the progress of the institute will be published in the next few weeks and will be put in the Library.
Teacher Training Colleges
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) how many students in teacher training colleges are training to become physical education teachers;(2) how many students in teacher training colleges are training to become teachers in mathematics;(3) how many students in teacher training colleges are training to become teachers in science subjects.
In the academic year 1977–78, the latest year for which complete information is available, the numbers of non-graduate students in England and Wales following 3 and 4-year courses of initial training in the subjects stated in preparation for teaching pupils in the secondary or middle years of schooling were:courses of training for teaching pupils of secondary age:more A-level passes and (
f) three or more A-level passes.
I shall write to the hon. Member shortly, enclosing all the figures requested, with the addition of the percentage of school leavers involved in each case.
Dependance Allowance (Women)
asked the Secretary State for Education and Science how many applications were made by women in each year since 1975 for a dependance allowance to enable them to take up full-time education while their husbands looked after their children; and what percentage of these was granted.
The information is not available in the form requested.Allowances for dependants under the Local Education Authority Awards Regulations are payable to students of either sex subject to certain conditions which apply equally to men and women. In the academic year 1978–79 allowances were paid to some 4,500 men and 2,250 women students at a total cost of £4·7 million.
University And Polytechnic Courses
asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) how many students are currently studying production engineering in universities and polytechnics.(2) how many students are currently studying sociology in universities and polytechnics;(3) how many students are currently receiving instruction on footwear design in universities, polytechnics, technical colleges and other teaching establishments; and how many were studying the same subject a year ago;(4) how many students are currently studying design engineering in universities and polytechnics.
This information is not immediately available. I shall write to my hon. Friend.
Environment
Dog Licences
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many dog licences were issued and what was the total gross revenue raised in the financial year 1979–80.
I have been asked to reply.This information is not yet available but, judging by experience in recent years, about 2·8 million dog licences will have been taken out in Great Britain raising about £1 million gross.
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment to what level the cost of a dog licence would have to be raised to bring its purchasing power to the level in real terms of 7s. 6d., as first established in 1878.
I have been asked to reply.I am advised by the Central Statistical Office that, in terms of purchasing power, the corresponding amount today might lie in the range £7·50–£8·50.
Housing Bill
asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what action has been taken by his Department, in the light of the letter of 28 March addressed to the Minister of State by the hon. Member for Islington, South and Finsbury about wrong interpretation of the Housing Bill by the Peabody Trust, in the light of his responsibilities on the registration of housing associations.
I replied to the hon. Member's letter on 1 May explaining that interpretation of legislation is a matter for the courts once it has been enacted.
Transport
International Road Safety Conference
asked the Minister of Transport if his Department is making any financial contribution to the International Road Safety Conference to be held in London on 20 to 22 May; and if he will make a statement.
The Department already makes a substantial grant in support of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents, totalling £350,000 in 1980–81. I regret that we are not able to make any extra financial contribution in relation to this conference, although my right hon. Friend and I support its aims and objectives.
Social Services
Contraceptives (School Children)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in the light of his review of the question of the provision of contraceptives to school-children without parental knowledge or consent, he is yet able to make a statement.
I have reviewed that part of DHSS circular HSC(IS)32 issued in May 1974 on family planning services which gives guidance to health authorities in relation to the young. Attached to the circular was a memorandum of guidance, paragraphs 40 to 45 of which dealt with this question. There have been suggestions that paragraphs 40 and 41 may have encouraged doctors and others to believe that they might in all cases advise about contraception and prescribe for girls under the age of consent without the involvement of their parents or those legally responsible for them.My review has led me to conclude that although these paragraphs provided a factual statement of the position in law and of professional practice, they could with advantage have placed greater emphasis on the moral and social perspective in which this question should be considered.The guidance stated (paragraph 41) that
" it would always be prudent to seek the patient's consent to tell the parents ".
I do not consider that this gives sufficient emphasis to the vital importance of parental responsibility. I would, therefore, very much hope that in any case where a doctor or other professional worker is approached by a person under the age of 16 for advice in these matters, the doctor or other adviser would always seek to persuade the child to involve the parent or guardian at the earliest stage of consultation; and would proceed from the assumption that it would be most unusual to provide advice to individuals about contraception without the consent of the parent, or guardian—or other person in loco parentis.
It is, however, widely accepted that consultations between doctors and patients are confidential and I accept the importance doctors attach to this principle. It is a principle which applies also to other professions concerned. If it were abandoned in relation to under-age patients, a situation would quickly develop where many young people would decide not to seek professional advice at all. They could then be exposed to the immediate risks of pregnancy and of sexually transmitted disease, as well as of other long-term physical, psychological and emotional consequences. In these circumstances, the aim of supporting stable family life would in no way have been furthered.
I accept therefore—in all the circumstances—that provision must be made for the occasional possibility of counselling, and if necessary contraception, being provided to young people without the knowledge of their parents or guardians. This must be a matter for clinical judgment. I am here thinking particularly of young people whose parents may be unconcerned, entirely unresponsive, or grossly disturbed. Some of these young people are away from their parents and in official care. I am mindful also that in any such case the nature of any counselling and the decision whether or not to provide contraception must be a matter for the doctor or other professional worker concerned.
I propose to consult the appropriate professional bodies on the basis of this statement, with a view to amending the relevant paragraphs of the memorandum.
State Retirement Pension
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of the fact that the present value of the national State retirement pension has been seriously eroded by the high rate of inflation, if he will now consider supporting a six-monthly review.
No. Uprating retirement pensions at six-monthly intervals would involve considerable additional expenditure and administrative work which is out of the question in the present economic situation.The proposed increase of 16·5 per cent. from November 1980 takes full account of the estimated movement of prices since the increase in November 1979, which gave retirement pensions their highest ever purchasing power.
Pensions Increase (Payment Date)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will bring the payment of the increase for pensioners forward from 24 November next, in view of the fact that this date is two weeks later than the payment of the annual increase last year.
No. An unintentional effect of the provisions of the Social Security Act 1975 has been that the date for increasing benefits has been creeping forward. But for the provisions of the Social Security Bill now before Parliament, the date would have crept forward this year a whole week from 17 November, the date in 1975, to 10 November. The Bill therefore provides for the up-rating to take place before the end of November.In the present difficult economic situation, and with the urgent need for restraint in public expenditure, the Government consider it necessary to defer this year's uprating until the week beginning 24 November. This uprating will take full account of the estimated movement in prices since the previous up-rating in November 1979.
Area Health Authorities
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list each area health authority in England and Wales, indicating the financial allocation for 1979–80 and the amount of over or underspending, listing capital and current expenditure separately.
The Department sets the cash limits of regional health authorities, who in turn set the cash limits of area health authorities: information on area health authorities' cash limits is not held centrally. Final figures on over or underspending for 1979–80 will not be available for some months, until authorities have completed their financial accounts for year ending 31 March 1980.
National Health Service (Catering Management Staff)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement upon the future and promotion prospects for professionally qualified catering management staff within the National Health Service, as present proposals for reorganisation delete the post of district catering manager, leaving the food provision service without representation on the district management team.
We are reviewing management arrangements at district level, including those for the catering function, in the light of the comments received on "Patients First", and expect to announce policy in July. At present the catering function is represented on the district management team by the administrator, and "Patients First" proposes no change in this arrangement.
Turning Point (Financial Assistance)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider making adequate financial assistance to Turning Point, the Helping Hand Organisation, in view of its valuable contribution to alleviating the medical and social problems of alcoholism and in view of the drain on the National Health Service caused by alcoholism.
Last year the Department granted £29,000 towards Turning Point's headquarters costs and will consider an application in respect of headquarter's costs for 1980–81. Support for local activities should be sought from local statutory authorities.
Supplementary Benefit And Housing Addition
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why a non-householder in receipt of supplementary benefit receives a housing addition; and why these two benefits should not be combined.
A non-householder on supplementary benefit gets a standard housing addition to enable him to make a contribution towards the housing expenses of the household. In theory this addition could be combined with each of the non-householder scale rates, but in practice it has been found preferable, for legislative and administrative reasons, to keep the two elements separate.
Hospital Caterers Association (Consultative Document)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he has considered the Hospital Caterers Association consultative document entitled " Patients First "; and what study he has made of the document's analysis of the effect of abolishing the post of health district catering manager.
We have received the association's comments and they will be studied as we review the proposals in " Patients First ". Our conclusions on the organisation of the catering function will be included in a policy statement on the structure and management of the NHS which my right hon. Friend hopes to make in July.
Pensions (Payment)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the saving over the last financial year of paying pensions directly into the bank accounts of those entitled; and when he will consider offering this procedure as an alternative choice for recipients.
The Government, like their predecessors, agree in principle that the public should be able to have their benefits paid direct into bank accounts if they wish. Urgent consideration is being given to the administrative and financial implications of offering this payment method and an announcement will be made as soon as possible. If 2 million mothers and 1 million pensioners chose to have their child benefit and retirement pensions respectively paid direct into their bank accounts, estimates suggests that DHSS administrative costs would drop by about £7 million a year eventually.
Cimetidine
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the information at present available that there is no need to modify further the general availability and clinical usage of the drug Cimetidine.
Yes. The Committee on Safety of Medicines will continue, however, to monitor reports of suspected adverse reactions to Cimetidine.
Immigrants' Dependants
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will set up a system to monitor the number of grants payable to immigrants' dependants and the amounts involved where sponsors have defaulted.
Such monitoring will be unnecessary in view of the changes we propose, to come into effect next November, whereby a sponsor will be legally liable for the maintenance of an immigrant dependant.
Invalidity Pensioners
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list, for each of the last five years for which figures are available, the number of invalidity pensioners who ceased to draw benefit but requalified for benefit (a) less than six weeks later and (b) between six and 13 weeks later; and if he will break down the figures by age of the recipients: (i) at the date they first drew invalidity benefit in the period in question and (ii) at the date of requalification for benefit.
Such detailed information is not available. I am, however, arranging to supply to the hon. Member some tables for each of the last five years for which figures are available. These show the number of spells of incapacity commencing which involved invalidity pension in the periods by the type of spell, if any, with which they linked and by age and sex.I am also making arrangements to produce some detailed information on the duration of the interval between linked spells of incapacity, but I regret that it is likely to take at least several weeks to produce this information. I shall write to the hon. Member.
National Health Service Patients (Medical Records)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his policy concerning the confidentiality of medical records of National Health Service patients.
Medical records are maintained by doctors for the purpose of the treatment and care of their patients. Safeguarding the confidentiality of such records is primarily an ethical matter for the doctors concerned. The use of identifiable information from medical records for a purpose other than that for which it was obtained—except when ordered by a court or pursuant to a statutory requirement—would require the agreement of doctors concerned, who would decide as an ethical matter whether the consent of the patient should also be sought. I would not wish the technicality of legal ownership of medical records by the Secretary of State, or custody of medical records by health authorities, to be used to circumscribe the ethical responsibility of doctors for confidentiality in relation to their patients.
St Mary's Hospital, London
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations he and the Minister for Health have received with regard to the proposed closure of the rheumatology and rehabilitation wards at St. Mary's hospital in London; what replies have been made; what further action they will be taking; and if he will make a statement.
I have received a letter from the right hon. Gentleman, enclosing a letter from a physician responsible for the service provided in these wards. In my reply, I explained that the proposal is the subject of local consultation and that it would not be appropriate for me to comment at this stage.
Unemployment Benefit
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the cost in a full year of paying an unemployed claimant the higher national insurance rates (a) after six months and (b) after 12 months, and for paying benefit for as long as the claimant is unemployed.
I shall let the hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.
Supplementary Benefit
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether the estimate that 110,000 more people will claim supplementary benefit as a result of the Social Security (No. 2) Bill takes account of the rate of non-take-up of supplementary benefit; and, if it does, what is his estimate of the total number who will become eligible for supplementary benefit as a result of the Bill.
Yes: from recent experience we are assuming a take-up rate of about three-quarters of those eligible.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many claimants of national insurance benefits will become eligible for supplementary benefit as a result of the fact that child support for this group will fall in real value in November.
It is difficult to quantify the effect separately from other changes, but the estimate of the additional numbers expected to become eligible for supplementary benefit might have been some 5–10,000 fewer if the real value of child support for national insurance beneficiaries had been maintained at November 1979 levels.
Social Security (No 2) Bill
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in respect of each clause in the Social Security (No. 2) Bill, any further organisations have made representations to him up to Friday 2 May; and if he will list them.
Between Friday 25 April and Friday 2 May 1980, I received representations on the Social Security (No. 2) Bill from the following organisations:
Royal Association for Disability and Rehabilitation—Clause 3.
The Lindhead Ward Liberal Group—Clauses 4 and 5.
The Conservative Board of Finance Scotland—Clause 6.
Special Hospitals
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services by how many patients each of the special hospitals is overcrowded; what are the consequences of this situation; and if he will take steps to eliminate overcrowding.
The only special hospital in which there is overcrowding at present is Broadmoor. The hospital facilities are appropriate for about 600 patients; on 31 March 1980 there were 720 patients resident.The main consequence of the overcrowding is that dormitory accommodation—for those patients who do not have single rooms—and day room accommodation is cramped; this reduces general living standards and increases the problems of staff caring for patients. Despite some recent improvements, there is also insufficient space for educational, occupational and social activities. More generally, lack of space hampers the modernisation of sub-standard accommodation.The number of patients at Broadmoor has been significantly reduced over recent years and will be further reduced as the new accommodation at the Park Lane special hospital becomes available.
Secure Psychiatric Unit (East Anglia)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if East Anglia regional health authority has now issued a consultation document on its proposal to establish a regional secure psychiatric unit.
The regional health authority expects to publish very soon a consultation document outlining proposals. Preliminary steps in the preparation of plans are being taken at the region.
Secure Patients
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the age of each of the 16 men and five women at Rampton who have been waiting for over four years for a transfer to a National Health Service hospital; and what is the length of time each had been waiting and the reason, in each case for the delay.
One of the 16 men and one of the five women have now been transferred. The ages of the remaining ones, and the length of time that each has been waiting for a suitable place to become available in an appropriate NHS hospital are as follows:
| Peroid of waiting | ||
| Age | Years | Months |
| Males— | ||
| 24 | 4 | 1 |
| 26 | 5 | 6 |
| 28 | 4 | 11 |
| 29 | 5 | 5 |
| 31 | 4 | 4 |
| 36 | 4 | — |
| 36 | 4 | 1 |
| 38 | 5 | 11 |
| 40 | 4 | — |
| 40 | 4 | 11 |
| 48 | 4 | 3 |
| 56 | 5 | 4 |
| 56 | 4 | 6 |
| 60 | 4 | 2 |
| 65 | 4 | 5 |
| Females— | ||
| 33 | 7 | 5 |
| 35 | 4 | 1 |
| 36 | 5 | 3 |
| 37 | 4 | 11 |
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the age of the woman at Moss-Side who has been waiting for over four years for a transfer to a National Health Service hospital, the length of time she has been waiting and the reason for the delay.
The woman is aged 46 and has been waiting 4 years and 11 months for a transfer to a National Health Service hospital. The delay in securing her transfer, which I much regret, has been due to the pressure on beds at the mental handicap hospital which serves her home area and the need to give priority to urgent cases from the community.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the age of the man at Broadmoor who has been waiting for over four years for a transfer to a National Health Service hospital, the length of time he has been waiting and the reason for the delay.
The man is aged 42 and has now been waiting 5 years 4 months for a transfer to a National Health Service hospital. I understand that the delay in securing his transfer has been mainly because transfer to the NHS hospital in his home area, which would normally be expected to take such a patient, was difficult because of objections by relatives to having him in close proximity. His responsible medical officer feels that he is now well enough to be discharged directly to supervised hostel accommodation in the community and his recent recommendation to this effect is currently being considered by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Home Department.
Mentally Handicapped Persons
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the North-East Thames regional health authority is still refusing to accept mentally handicapped persons from the special hospitals; how many the regional health authority has refused in each of the last three years; what reasons it has given; and what steps are planned.
It has always been the policy of the North-East Thames RHA to encourage hospitals in the region to consider the transfer of any patient from a special hospital. Mentally handicapped patients have been transferred from special hospitals to hospitals in the North East Thames region during the period referred to by the hon. Member. The detailed information sought by the hon. Member is not available centrally in the form requested and could only be provided at disproportionate cost.
National Health Service Hospitals (Manpower Statistics)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will publish in the Official Report the number of (a) doctors, and grades, (b) nurses, all grades, and (c) ancillary staff, not in administration, employed in hospitals in the National Health Service in 1970, 1978 and 1980, at the nearest convenient date;
| NHS MANPOWER | |||||||
| ENGLAND AS AT 30 SEPTEMBER | |||||||
| WHOLE-TIME EQUIVALENTS | |||||||
| 1971 | 1978 | 1979 | |||||
| Hospital Medical Staff1 | … | … | … | 22,548 | 29,293 | 30,356 | |
| Hospital Nurses2 | … | … | … | … | 232,636 | 291,856 | — |
| All ancillary Staff3 | … | … | … | 167.951 | 172,177 | — | |
| All Certified Midwives4 | … | … | … | 14,040 | 14,905 | — | |
| HomeNurses5 | … | … | … | … | 9,069 | 13,186 | — |
| Health Visitors6 | … | … | … | … | 7,622 | 8,635 | — |
| Administrative and Clerical Staff7 | … | (70,396) | 100,304 | — | |||
| —not available | |||||||
| 1. Figures include permanent paid (whole-time and part-time) and/or honorary staff, but exclude locums, hospital practitioners, clinical assistants and general practitioners participating in hospital staff fund. | |||||||
| 2. Excludes nursing cadets and agency nurses. | |||||||
| 3. It is not possible to identify separately those ancillary staff employed in hospitals only, therefore figures relating to all staff are shown. | |||||||
| 4. Excludes pupil and agency midwives. Includes tutorial midwives. | |||||||
| 5. Includes home nurses with and without district training as these cannot be separately identified for the earlier year. | |||||||
| 6. Excludes tutorial staff and TB visitors owing to problems of comparability with the earlier year. | |||||||
| 7. Includes support staff managers but excludes ambulance officers. The number shown for 1971 includes an estimate of the equivalent of staff who were transferred from local authorities to the NHS in 1974 along with the transfer of work as part of the 1974 reorganisation. However, not all local authority staff engaged in NHS work were transferred with the work and additional staff had to be recruited by the NHS to replace them. For this reason the 1971 figure (shown in brackets) is not directly comparable with the 1978 figure and cannot be used to make any valid judgement about the increase in NHS administrative and clerical staff between the two dates. | |||||||
Education And Training Costs
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the total annual cost of education and training undertaken by his Department.
The total cost of training given to non-industrial staff in my Department in the training year 1978–79 is estimated at £19·5 million. This represents training given within the Department,
(2) what was the number of midwives, district nurses and health visitors employed within the National Health Service in 1970, 1978 and 1980, at the nearest convenient date;
(3) what was the number of administrative staff, all grades, employed within the National Health Service in 1970, 1978 and 1980, to the nearest convenient date.
It is not possible to give the answers in the precise form requested because of lack of information for 1970 and problems of coverage and comparability. The earliest year for which a realistic comparison of the staff groups in question can be made is 1971; the latest year for which comparable information for all the staff groups is available is 1978. The table below sets out the information.by the Civil Service college, and externally. The figure includes basic staff costs of the students—that is salaries and normal accommodation—but does not include travelling and subsistence expenses.In addition, the Department provides central finance for certain Health Service and personal social service training. Details are included in the Supply Estimates (class XI).
General Practitioners
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the number of general practitioners working within the National Health Service in 1970, 1978 and 1980 at the nearest convenient date.
On 1 January 1970, 1978 and 1980, there were, respectively, 20,223; 22,403 and 23,082* general medical practitioners, including unrestricted and restricted principals, assistants and trainees, working within the NHS in England.
* provisional figure.
National Health Service Dentists
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the number of dentists working within the National Health Service in 1970, 1978 and 1980, at the nearest convenient date.
At 30 September in the years 1970, 1978 and 1979, the number of dentists in England providing National Health Service general dental services, excluding dentists employed by health authorities, was 10,426; 11,919 and 12,146 respectively. Figures for 1980 are not yet available.
One-Parent Families
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his most recent estimate of the number of one-parent families; and what are the assumptions behind this estimate.
An assessment of the available evidence suggests a figure of the order of 825,000 for the number of one-parent families in Great Britain at mid 1978. This estimate draws on evidence from a number of sources to bring up to date estimates of the number of one-parent families derived from the 1971 census of population. Among these sources are annual statistics about numbers of divorces involving dependent children, admnistrative statistics on numbers of one-parent families in receipt of supplementary benefit and analyses of information about families collected in the general household survey. The hon. Member may find it helpful to refer to the discussion of the problems of definition which are involved and the discussion of the sources of data and methods used in compiling estimates which was published in the Autumn 1978 issue of " Population Trends", the quarterly journal of the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys.
New Commonwealth Population
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list in the Official Report for the years 1948 and 1950 and for each five years since 1950 the estimated size of the New Commonwealth population of the United Kingdom, the estimated size of the total population of the United Kingdom and the percentage of the New Commonwealth population of the United Kingdom born in the United Kingdom.
Figures for 1948 and 1950 are not available, but estimates for each fifth year from 1951 onwards are given below. Persons of mixed origin are included. The estimates for the earlier years are subject to wider margins of uncertainty than those for 1971 and 1976.
| Midyear | Total Great Britain population | Estimated population of NCWP ethnic origin | |
| (thousands) | (thousands) | (per cent. born in United Kingdom) | |
| 1951 | 48,917 | 180 | |
| 1956 | 49,787 | 250 | 10 |
| 1961 | 51,380 | 480 | 20 |
| 1966 | 53,025 | 890 | 25 |
| 1971 | 54,072 | 1,371 | 35 |
| 1976 | 54,348 | 1,771 | 40 |
Quangos
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) when last he received written advice from the Administration of Radioactive Substances Advisory Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;(2) when last he received written advice from the Advisory Committee on Borderline Substances; and what action he has taken since as a result;(3) when last he received written advice from the Advisory Committee on Distinction Awards; and what action he has taken since as a result;(4) when last he received written advice from the Advisory Committee on Irradiation of Food; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(5) when last he received written advice from the Advisory Committee on Vocational Training Allowances; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(6) when last he received written advice from the Advisory Group on Testing for Hepatitis B; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(7) when last he received written advice from the Breast Cancer Screening Trials Working Group; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(8) when last he received written advice from the Central Advisory Committee on Rural Practice Payments; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(9) when last he received written advice from the Central Advisory Committee on War Pensions; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(10) when last he received written advice from the Central Joint Committee of Medical and Pharmaceutical Professions on the Rural Dispensing Standstill; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(11) when last he received written advice from the Child Health Computing Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(12) when last he received written advice from the Children's Joint Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(13) when last he received written advice from the Committee on Dental and Surgical Materials; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(14) when last he received written advice from the Committee on Gynaecological Cytology; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(15) when last he received written advice from the Committee on Medical Aspects of Food Policy; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(16) when last he received written advice from the Committee on Radiation from Radioactive Medical Products; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(17) when last he received written advice from the Committee on Restrictions Against Disabled People; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(18) when last he received written advice from the Committee on the Review of Medicines; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(19) when last he received written advice from the Committee on Safety of Medicines; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(20) when last he received written advice from the Co-ordinating Committee on Medical Aspects of Chemicals in Food, Consumer Products and the Environment; and what action he taken since as a result;
(21) when last he received written advice from the Dangerous Pathogens Advisory Group; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(22) when last he received written advice from the Dental Rates Study Group; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(23) when last he received written advice from the Food Hygiene Advisory Council; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(24) when last he received written advice from the Health Services Human Growth Hormone Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(25) when last he received written advice from the Independent Scientific Committee on Smoking and Health; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(26) when last he received written advice from the Independent Advisory Committee on the Howie Code; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(27) when last he received written advice from the Industrial Injuries Advisory Council; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(28) when last he received written advice from the Joint Inducements Payments Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(29) when last he received written advice from the Medicines Commission; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(30) when last he received written advice from the National Health Service Computer Policy Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(31) when last he received advice from the National Health Service National Staff Committees; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(32) when last he received written advice from the National Health Service Purchasing Advisory Groups; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(33) when last he received written advice from the National Training Council for the National Health Service; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(34) when last he received written advice from the Postgraduate Training Allowance Advisory Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(35) when last he received written advice from the Radiological Advisory Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(36) when last he received written advice from the Scientific and Technical Committee for the Central Blood Laboratories; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(37) when last he received written advice from the United Kingdom Transplant Management Committee; and what action he has taken since as a result;
(38) when last he received written advice from the war pensions committees; and what action he has taken since as a result.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply shortly.
Dalkon Shield
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if the figure of 56 cases of pelvic infection and 12 ectopic pregnancies among women wearing the Dalkon shield are correct; and if not, what are the correct figures.
The recent press article, which mentioned 59 cases of pelvic infection and 12 cases of ectopic pregnancy, correctly quoted from a report prepared by Dr. Robert Snowden in 1977. It is not possible to make any authoritative estimate of the total numbers of cases of pelvic infection and ectopic pregnancies directly associated with the use of the Dalkon shield. Dr. Snowden's survey covered cases known to have arisen in 20 centres over the period April 1970 to March 1977.Dr. Snowden concluded that
"the mortality and morbidity rates associated with other devices is often as high, if not higher, than those attributable to the Dalkon Shield."
Plasma
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many litres of plasma were processed at the Elstree laboratory in each year since 1972.
The information is as follows:
| 1972: | 15,000 litres (part year only) |
| 1973: | 60,710 " |
| 1974: | 82,667 " |
| 1975: | 85,050 " |
| 1976: | 116,582 " |
| 1977: | 148,703 " |
| 1978: | 156,325 " |
| 1979: | 155,742 " |
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many litres of plasma were imported in each year since 1972; and at what cost;(2) how much plasma it is estimated will be imported during the current year; and at what cost.
As far as I am aware, no human blood plasma is imported into the United Kingdom, but several commercial companies import processed blood products which are purchased by health authorities. No reliable estimate is available of expenditure on these products by the NHS in 1979–80, but it is thought to have been in the region of £5 million to £6 million. Expenditure in 1980–81 is expected to be of the same order. I regret that I cannot estimate expenditure for earlier years.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what studies have been undertaken into the possibility of modernising the Elstree laboratory to enable it to meet the demand for plasma products; how much this would cost; and what the likely effect would be on the level of imports.
Proposals are being prepared for the development of this laboratory in both the short and the long term. These will include estimates of cost and of import savings. I regret that no such estimates are available at present.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what discussions he has had concerning the possibility of handing over the plasma section of the National Blood Transfusion Service to private industry at home and abroad; and if he will make a statement.
There is no question of industrial participation in plasma collection, but I am considering the possibility of participation in plasma fractionation. There would be no question of arrangements outside this country.
Benefits
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what legislation since 1945, or any earlier date for which information is available, has resulted in a cut in the value of national insurance benefits;(2) what legislation since 1945, or any earlier date for which information is available, has resulted in a cut in the value of cash benefits for disabled people.
The right hon. Gentleman no doubt has in mind in particular clause 1 of the Social Security (No. 2) Bill which allows certain non-taxable benefits to be uprated by less than the amount necessary to restore their real value at the next uprating—as an interim measure pending their being made taxable. There are no precise precedents. Benefit upratings have fallen short of the amount required to restore the full value of some or all of the main benefits in a number of years. On some occasions, particular benefits were not increased at all.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is his estimate of the gross increase in unemployment pay and any consequent reduction in supplementary benefit in 1981–82 as a result of clause 3 of the Social Security (No. 2) Bill;(2) what is his estimate of the gross savings in sickness, invalidity and equivalent incapacity benefits and the consequent increase in supplementary benefit payable in 1981–82 as a result of clause 3 of the Social Security (No. 2) Bill.
This is a difficult area in which to estimate the effect of changes and further statistical analyses are in progress. The current estimate of the effects on the national insurance fund in 1981–82 is that expenditure on sickness and invalidity benefits will be reduced by up to £60 million, and expenditure on unemployment benefit will be increased by up to £40 million. The saving in supplementary benefit may be of the order of £20 million. It is estimated that there will be an increase in expenditure on supplementary benefit for incapacity, but a somewhat larger decrease in expenditure on supplementary benefit to the unemployed.
European Community (Disabled Persons)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what work is being undertaken by the Commission on the harmonisation of benefits for disabled people within the European Economic Community; and if he will make a statement.
The Commission has to date presented no proposals on this matter. While it is the declared objective of the Community to harmonise the degree of social security afforded by the various member States, it has been explicitly agreed that this would not involve requiring the respective social systems to be identical.
Invalidity Benefit (Therapeutic Earnings Limit)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services to what level he intends to raise the invalidity benefit therapeutic earnings limit in November.
It is proposed to raise the limit to £15 a week.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services in how many instances in the last year for which figures are available insurance officers have refused to accept earnings received by invalidity pensioners as therapeutic earnings despite being below the limit then in force; if he will list the grounds on which an insurance officer may refuse to accept such earnings as therapeutic; and if he will make a statement.
The insurance officer will not accept work as "therapeutic" unless he is satisfied that the work is undertaken under medical supervision as part of treatment while a hospital patient or that it is work which the claimant has good cause for doing. "Good cause" is generally interpreted by the independent determining authorities as being work which is undertaken on the advice of a doctor. Records are not kept of claims where the insurance officer has refused to accept that the claimant's work was "therapeutic".
Speech Therapy
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what grounds the Government are satisfied by paragraph 47 of the Clegg report, in view of its failure to recognise that speech therapy is an integral part of medical services; and what measures the Government now intend to undertake to remedy the grave dissatisfaction of speech therapists with the Clegg report.
As an independent body, the Clegg Standing Commission is able to answer for its own findings. Paragraph 47 of the report on professions supplementary to medicine and related groups such as speech therapy is not concerned with the obvious relationship of these professions to medical services but with the evidence presented to the Commission in respect of the differentials within each profession examined between basic grade staff and those in senior and supervisory grades. The new scales recommended in the report have been agreed by the Professional and Technical "A" Whitley Council and any further adjustment to those differentials would be a matter for that council. I have agreed to make arrangements shortly to meet representatives of the speech therapy profession to discuss issues of concern to them other than those which are more appropriate for discussion within the Whitley council.
Social Work (Grimsby And South Humberside)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied with the present provision of services in (a) residential social work and (b) field work in the Grimsby area and in South Humberside.
I am aware of certain problems in these areas at present, but responsibility for dealing with them rests with the county council.
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what proportion of residential social workers are qualified in (a) Grimsby and (b) South Humberside;(2) how many unfilled posts there are for residential social works in (
a) the Grimsby area and ( b) South Humberside.
The information requested is not held centrally. The hon. Member may like to consult the local authority concerned.
National Health Service Budget
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, for the financial years ending April 1980 and April 1981, of the total estimated National Health Service budget, what proportion will be allocated to staff who are (a) clerical and administrative, (b) ancillary and (c) paramedical and professionally trained medical personnel.
The information is not available in the form requested, since the health authorities allocate their resources between the different parts of their service.
Member's Correspondence
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services why the hon. Member for Thornaby has not received a reply to his letters dated 4 February and 4 March addressed to the Under-Secretary of State; and when he can expect to receive them.
Replies to both letters have been sent to the hon. Member today.
Young Persons (Contraceptive Advice)
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects to issue new guidelines on the offering of contraceptive advice to girls under 16 years.
[pursuant to his reply, 14 April 1980, c. 522]: I refer the right hon. Gentleman to my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Bristol, North West (Mr. Colvin) today.
National Health Service Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, for the financial years ending April 1980 and April 1981, what is the relative proportion of total estimated expenditure by the National Health Service on (a) clerical and administrative staff, (b) equipment and technology and (c) capital investment which is directly related to medical treatment.
The information requested is not available.
National Health Service Expenditure
asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, for the financial years ending April 1980 and April 1981, what proportion of the total estimated number of staff in the National Health Service will be (a) clerical and administrative, (b) ancillary and (c) paramedical and professionally trained medical personnel.
I shall let my hon. Friend have a reply as soon as possible.