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Written Answers

Volume 985: debated on Tuesday 20 May 1980

Stationery Office Publications

asked the Minister for the Civil Service, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Grimsby, 15 May, on how many individual occasions he has decided that public expense on the provision of publications to hon. Members was not justified.

Television Services

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement about the closure of the 405-line VHF services in the United Kingdom and the extension of the coverage of the 625-line UHF service.

The 405-line VHF television services of the BBC and the IBA transmit BBC-1 and ITV in black and white only and are now substantially duplicated by the 625-line UHF services which transmit BBC-1, BBC-2 and ITV in colour, and which will in due course transmit the fourth channel service. Phase II of the current UHF engineering programme for extending the 625-line services to communities with populations of 500 or more—over 99 per cent. of the population—should be completed by about 1984.

Closure of the 405-line services

The need to close the 405-line services in the early 1980s was recognised by the Pilkington committee and the Annan committee on the future of broadcasting. The manufacture of sets capable of receiving the 405-line services ceased some years ago and the transmitting equipment is rapidly nearing the end of its useful life. Substantial capital expenditure would be required to extend its life beyond the next few years and such expenditure on a duplicate and obsolescent service could not be justified.

I have, therefore, agreed with the broadcasting authorities on a timetable for the closure of the 405-line services. Closure will begin in 1982 and will be phased over a period of about four years. The BBC and the IBA will aim to end their services in particular parts of the country together, subject to differences in the two authorities' transmitter networks. The closures will be carefully phased to minimise any inconvenience to the remaining 405-line viewers. The firm intention is that transmitters serving significant areas not covered by UHF 625-line services will not be closed down until towards the end of the period, after the phase II UHF provision in the area is available, although this cannot be completely guaranteed in every place. The broadcasting authorities will consult closely with my Department about the programme of closures as it is developed with this objective in mind. Wherever possible they will give about two years notice to the public in the affected areas and every effort will be made to ensure that wide publicity is given. They will also offer advice on alternative means of reception to those affected.

Extension of the 625-line services

The broadcasting authorities estimate that up to about 90,000 people will remain without a usable service at the end of the phase II UHF engineering programme. A further 200,000 people will not be served to the strict technical standards used by the broadcasting authorities, though most of these should be able to receive programmes to a standard at least as good as that of any 405-line monochrome service in the areas concerned.

I fully recognise the importance of television to small communities and, in view of the need to close the 405-line services, the broadcasting authorities and the Home Office have been studying ways of extending 625-line coverage. I have now given my approval to proposals to extend UHF coverage to groups of less than 500 wherever it is reasonably practicable for this to be done. The broadcasting authorities will direct this phase III of the UHF programme towards groups which are totally unserved by the 625-line services and will give special consideration to those which will lose their 405-line services. Because of the varied nature of these small groups there can be no obligation on the BBC and the IBA to provide a service to them and a precise lower limit cannot be specified, but in practice groups of fewer than 200 are unlikely to benefit. This further programme will be phased over several years and it will be built up as the current programme tails off. It will not cause any delays to the current phase II programme or to the engineering programme for the fourth channel service.

In addition, I have agreed to new procedures for licensing groups which prove to be too small to benefit from the phase III programme and which wish to provide a small relay at their own expense, where this is technically possible and where the provision of a wired distribution system is not practicable or economic. The broadcasting authorities will give assistance to such groups in drawing up proposals which will be considered by the joint television planning group of the Home Office, the BBC and the IBA. Before the proposed transmitter is licensed by the Home Office, the broadcasting authorities will carry out a check to ensure that it will not cause interference to the reception of existing or planned stations. Although every assistance will be given in dealing with these proposals, the rate at which they can be introduced will inevitably be governed by the availability of resources within the broadcasting authorities and the Home Office.

I believe that the proposals for a phase III of the UHF programme and for licensing self-help schemes which I am announcing today will, over time, have a significant effect in reducing the numbers of people who will be left without a useable service though it will never be possible to provide 100 per cent. coverage.

Where to get advice

The BBC and the IBA will shortly announce the details of the first year of the closure programme for the 405-line services. Viewers who want advice on alternative means of reception should approach either the BBC Engineering Information Department, Broadcasting House, London W1A 1AA or the IBA Engineering Information Service, Crawley Court, Winchester, Hants. S021 2QA.

Identification of 405-line receivers

Viewers who have monochrome receivers and who are unsure whether their receiver is to 625-line or 405-line standard should check whether it can receive BBC-2. If it cannot and it carries no labels indicating BBC-2 or UHF it is probably a 405-line receiver.

Driving Instructors

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions have been brought against pirate driving instructors in each of the past five years; and in how many cases the prosecutions resulted in conviction.

The information available on prosecutions is given in the following table; that on findings of guilt is published annually in " Offences relating to motor vehicles, England and Wales "—table 4, page 37 of the volume for 1978. Cmnd. 7687.

PROSECUTIONS FOR OFFENCES RELATING TO DIVING DRIVING INSTRUCTION ENGLAND AND WALES Number of offences Year Person other than an approved driving instructor giving instruction for payment Falsely claiming to be an approved driving instructor 1974 100 28 1975 114 16 1976 110 20 1977 204 34 1978 101 6

Prisoners (Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were received into custody in 1978 and 1979 for fine default following convictions for ( a ) begging, ( b ) sleeping out and ( c ) suspected person offences.

The available information on receptions into prison department establishments in England and Wales of persons in default of payment of a fine for begging and sleeping out is published annually in " Prison Statistics England and Wales"—table 3.2, 4.1 and 5.1 of the issue for 1978, Cmnd. 7626. These offences are not recorded separately in central records. Figures for 1979 are not yet available.

Suspected person offences are not recorded separately.

Fines

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the short-fall between fines levied and collected in each of the past three years.

Information in this form is not available. The cumulative total amounts of fines outstanding in England and Wales, excluding inner London, at the end of the financial years 1977–78 and 1978–79 were £22,126,110 and £29,404,719 respectively. But these figures include fines which remained unpaid because the time allowed for payment had not expired. Comparable information for 1979–80 is not yet available.

Children and Young Persons

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the Government have any plans to amend section 55 of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 to require parents or guardians of children over the age of 14 years to pay fines imposed on their children when convicted of offences.

We have no immediate plans to amend section 55, but we shall look at this provision, among others, in considering what changes are needed in the law relating to juvenile offenders.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) how many orders have been made by the courts for the attachment of earnings of a parent or guardian for the payment of compensation for damage caused by a juvenile in criminal proceedings in the period since 1974;

(2) how many compensation orders have been made against the parents or guardians of children between the ages of 14 and 17 years convicted of offences since 1974.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether the Government have any intention of in- troducing legislation to clarify the definitions of " child ", " minor " and " young person " in English law.

The words are statutorily defined for each purpose for which they are used, and we do not consider that any general clarifying legislation is needed.

Prison Officers (Industrial Action)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will list those penal establishments that are currently subject to industrial action by prison officers, and indicate in each case the nature of the action, the length of time it has been in progress and the reasons for it.

It would not be practicable to provide all the information requested in the hon. Member's question without disproportionate costs. The general position is that industrial action, mainly of a minor nature, is taking place at the following establishments. Ash ford Bedford Blundeston Campsfield House Gartree Holloway Latchmere House Leeds Leicester Liverpool Maidstone Manchester Northeye North Sea Camp Norwich Onley Parkhurst Ranby Risley Stafford Sudbury Thorpe Arch Wandsworth Wellingborough Wormwood Scrubs

The duration of the disputes varies from six days to 18 months.

Mr. D. Wakefield

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how long Mr. D. Wakefield, a prisoner at Long Lartin, has been in solitary confinement; and for what reason.

There is no such thing as solitary confinement. Douglas Wakefield has been segregated from association with other prisoners under prison rule 43, in the interests of good order and discipline since September 1978.

Criminal Bankruptcies

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many criminal bankruptcy orders have been made against persons convicted of offences under the provisions of section 39 of the Powers of Criminal Courts Act 1973; and what proportion of the total number of offences causing loss of damage exceeding £15,000 these orders form.

The information available is published annually from 1975 in " Criminal Statistics, England and Wales "—Footnote (4) to table 16 on page 441 of the volume for 1978, Cmnd. 7670.

Compensation Orders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department in how many cases, as a proportion of the total, the provisions of section 35 of the Powers of Criminal Courts Act 1973 orders have been made against persons convicted of offences to pay compensation for personal injuries, loss or damages arising from the offences concerned or offences taken into account when determining sentence.

The information available relates to compensation ordered for the principal offence involved and is published annually from 1976 in " Criminal Statistics, England and Wales"—table 6.25 of the volume for 1978, Cmnd. 7670.

Junior Attendance Centres

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what proposals he has for the introduction of staff training and a proper system of inspection at junior attendance centres; and if he will publish an annual report on their operation.

Staff employed at junior attendance centres are mainly teachers and police officers with suitable skills and with experience of dealing with juveniles, and no special training is considered necessary. Arrangements already exist for these centres to be inspected at regular intervals by officers of the social work service of the Department of Health and Social Security, who act as professional advisers to the Home Office.

We have no plans for publishing an annual report on their operation.

Prison and Probation Departments (Reports)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why the reports of the prison and probation departments of his Department are published separately; and if, in the interests of the proper co-ordination of information on the penal system, he will consider publishing a combined report for both departments in future.

We do not have this in mind. An annual report on the work of the prison department is required to be laid before Parliament by section 5 of the Prison Act 1952. A report on the work of the probation department has not been published in its previous comprehensive format since 1976, but information about the probation service is published annually by the Home Office in " Probation and After-Care Statistics, England and Wales ".

Television Licence Fees

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what was the shortfall between television licence fees assessed and those collected in each of the past three years.

The estimate of television licence evasion throughout the last three years is of the order of about 1 million licences a year. Taking account of changes in the level of the licence fees, and the increasing number of people with colour, as opposed to monochrome, sets, the estimates of the revenue lost for the last three years are:

1977–78 about £15 million; 1978–79 about £18 million; 1979–80 about £25 million.

Estimates in connection with evasion are of necessity imprecise and subject to considerable error.

Electoral Boundaries (Northumberland)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects the revised county electoral boundary proposal for Northumberland to be published.

The Local Government Boundary Commission for England submitted to us on 18 January its report containing final proposals for new electoral arrangements for the county of Northumberland. I understand that copies of the report were sent also to the local authorities and others concerned.

We hope to make an order in due course implementing the commission's proposals, with or without modifications, at the county elections to be held in May 1981.

Middle Eastern Nationals

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what special measures he is considering in view of the increasing numbers of murders among various Arab groups in London in recent years.

I am determined to ensure, so far as I can, that London is not used as a battleground for Middle Eastern factions, and this has been made clear to the Governments of the countries concerned. Immigration staff at ports and posts abroad are well aware of recent incidents and make counter-terrorist measures a high priority. With effect from 19 May all Iranian nationals seeking to enter this country have, like Iraqi and Libyan nationals at present, to be in possession of a valid entry visa obtained from a British overseas post. The police for their part are devoting an increasingly successful effort to the combating of terrorist crimes and the apprehension of those responsible. In addition, my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office announced on 12 May—[Vol. 984, c. 846–47]—that the Libyan authorities have agreed at the request of the United Kingdom Government to withdraw four Libyans connected with their mission in London who have been involved in activities which are incompatible with their functions.

Boundary Commission for Wales

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he has received the report of the Boundary Commission for Wales dealing with parliamentary constituencies, county electoral areas and borough district council areas; and when he expects to present the report to the House.

The Parliamentary Boundary Commission for Wales has not yet begun its general review of parliamentary constituencies, although we hope that it will be in a position to do so shortly. The Local Government Boundary Commission for Wales has not yet submitted to me any reports proposing new electoral arrangements for districts or counties. There is, however, no requirement for the reports of that commission to be laid before Parliament.

National Front Marches (Policing Costs)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to ascertain the total cost in each of the past three available years of providing police supervision at National Front marches and rallies.

No. This information is not available centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate expense.

Work Permits

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if work permits are required for citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies who are living abroad to work in the United Kingdom.

Crimes of Violence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department by what percentage convictions for murder, manslaughter and crimes of violence, respectively, have increased since 1963.

The information is as follows: Percentage increase from 1963 to 1978 in persons convicted of offences of violence against the person England and Wales Percentages Murder +128 Manslaughter +88 Other offences of violence against the person +213 Total +212

Police (Complaints)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish a breakdown by ethnic origin of the 2,820 complaints made against the police alleging assault and submitted to the Director of Public Prosecutions, in 1978.

Community Service Orders

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were sentenced to community service orders in 1978 and 1979 in ( a ) Greater London and ( b ) England and Wales.

The number of persons given community service orders in 1978 and the first half of 1979 is published by probation and after-care area in table 6 of " Statistics on Community Service Orders "—Home Office Statistical Bulletin, issue 3/80. Figures for the whole of 1979 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people completed community service orders in 1978 and 1979 in ( a ) Greater London and ( b ) England and Wales.

Information on the number of persons completing community service orders is not readily available. The number of community service orders terminated in 1978 by the completion of the specified number hours of work was ( a ) 1,946 in Greater London and ( b ) 11,146 in England and Wales. Figures for the whole of 1979 are not yet available.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people served custodial sentences for non-completion of community service orders in 1979 and 1980 in ( a ) Greater London and ( b ) England and Wales.

Information in the form requested is not available. The information available relates to the number of persons sentenced in England and Wales in 1978 to a custodial sentence following breach of a community service order and is published annually in " Criminal Statistics, England and Wales "—table 6–30 of the 1978 volume, Cmnd. 7670. Separate information for Greater London could be obtained only at disproportionate cost; information for 1979 and 1980 is not yet available.

Woolworth's Store, Piccadilly, Manchester (Fire)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he has yet had an opportunity to study the report of the sub-committee of the Central Fire Brigades Advisory Councils for England and Wales and for Scotland on the fire at Woolworth's store in Piccadilly, Manchester, on 8 May 1979; and if he will make a statement.

I have now considered the report of the sub-committee of the Central Fire Brigades Advisory Councils for England and Wales and for Scotland on the fire at Woolworth's, Piccadilly, Manchester on 8 May 1979, in which 10 people lost their lives. Copies of the report, which is to be printed and published, have been placed in the Library.

I concur in the sub-committee's recommendations and will take the necessary steps to give effect to them. In particular, I agree that suitable regulations should be made under section 12 of the Fire Precautions Act 1971 to control the display in shops and department stores of polyurethane foam-filled furniture, and have authorised the necessary research to be put in hand to devise the details of such control. Other amendments to existing legislation and guides as to standards will be prepared. Arrangements are being made to bring the recommendations to the notice of fire authorities and the retail trade.

Having regard to the depth of the coroner's inquest and the scope of the sub-committee's comprehensive report, I consider that no useful purpose would now be served by any further formal inquiry into this fire.

Robbery

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people are currently serving prison sentences for robbery in ( a ) England and Wales and ( b ) Greater London.

[ pursuant to his reply, Vol. 984, c. 295]: On 31 March 1980, 2,106 persons were serving sentences of imprisonment in prison department establishments in England and Wales for robbery. Of these, 212 were in prison department establishments in Greater London.

Student Community Action Resources Programme

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why his Department gives financial assistance to the Student Community Action Resources Programme.

The Voluntary Services Unit grant to Students Community Action Resource Programme—which amounted to £14,000 in 1979–80—was approved for a three-year period in 1978. It is a contribution limited to the organisation's work in supporting and developing volunteer community work by students in some 200 universities and colleges.

Wholesale Newsagents (London)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he has had any discussion with the Director General of Fair Trading concerning the attempt to restrict competition among wholesale

RATIO OF IMPORTS OF MANUFACTURED GOODS TO EXPORTS AND TO HOME PRODUCTION Imports/Exports Imports/Home Production Country 1963 1973 1974 1979 1963 1973 1974 1979 United Kingdom … … 0.89 1.12 1.12 1.08 0.14 0.22 0.24 0.26 … … 0.87 0.95 0.94 N.A. 0.12 0.19 0.22 N.A. Germany … … 0.58 0.64 N.A. N.A. 0.11 0.17 N.A. N.A. Italy … … N.A. 0.89 N.A. N.A. N.A. 0.21 N.A. N.A. Japan. … … N.A. 0.47 0.42 N.A. N.A. 0.04 0.05 N.A. N.A.—Not available.

Note:

Manufactured goods are defined as those produced by industries classified to major division 3 of the international standard industrial classification: broadly equivalent to Orders III to XIX of lb.5 United Kingdom's standard industrial classification (SIC). United Kingdom figures exclude the following SIC minimum list headings, for which information is not available:

MLH 239 Other drink industries 240 Tobacco 342 Ordnance and small arms 396 Jewellery and precious metals 423 Textile finishing 433 Fur 474 Shop and office fitting

Overseas Airports (Safety Standards)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will list in the Official Report those overseas airports which do not conform to the minimum Civil Aviation Authority safety standards; if he will make a statement as to how newsagents in London; and if not, if he will take an early opportunity to discuss the matter.

I have not discussed the London wholesale newspaper market with the Director General; and I propose to do so. If my hon. Friend has details of particular restrictions affecting this market he may like to bring them to the Director General's attention.

Manufactured Goods (Imports-Exports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will circulate in the Official Report a table showing for the principal industrial countries the ratio of imports of manufactured goods to exports and to home production in the years 1954, 1964, 1974 and 1979.

Such information for principal industrial countries as is available on a basis broadly comparable with United Kingdom figures is given in the table below. The information is provided by the OECD.

this information is communicated to the general public; and whether United Kingdom-based tour operators are prevented from using such airports.

It is not possible to list aerodromes in this way. The safety of operations at an aerodrome is governed by civil aviation legislation and depends on the type of aircraft flown and the circumstances in which the aerodrome is used. Regulation 15 of the Air Navigation (General) Regulations 1976 stipulates the minimum facilities any aerodrome must have before it can be used by United Kingdom registered passenger carrying aircraft. Article 27 of the Air Navigation Order 1976 requires that a United Kingdom operator shall not permit public transport aircraft to land at an aerodrome unless he is satisfied that the aerodrome is suitable and is adequately manned and equipped to ensure the safety of the aircraft and passengers. The Civil Aviation Authority flight operations inspectorate exists to monitor United Kingdom public transport operations for the purpose of ensuring that the statutory requirements are complied with by

UNITED KINGDOM OVERSEAS TRADE IN CONSUMER GOODS* Valuemillion ) Volume ( Index, 1975 = 100 ) Imports Exports Imports Exports 1969 … … … … 55 96 N.A. N.A. 1970 … … … … 74 103 33 75 1979 … … … … 796 405 219 104 N.A.=Not available. * Within SITC (Rev 2) divisions 71 to 77 and as defined by the United Nations broad economic categories classifications.

Imports-Exports (Comparisons)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will circulate in the Official Report a table showing for each standard international trade classification heading for manufacturers a table showing imports as a percentage of exports and as a percentage of home production for the years 1954, 1964, 1974 and 1979; and if he will include comparable figures for Germany, France and Japan.

The information requested, relating imports to exports, cannot be provided without disproportionate cost. Information relating imports to production is not available in terms of the standard international trade classification, either for the United Kingdom or for other countries.

Electrical Machinery

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what are the terms of trade and relative volume for electrical machinery in each quarter since 1 January 1978; and whether he has discussed

operators and pilots. The legislation is available to the public and all United Kingdom air transport operators must comply with it.

Consumer Goods (Imports-Exports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will circulate in the Official Report figures showing the value and volume of imports and exports of consumer goods covered by standard international trade classification overseas 1971 to 1977 for 1959, 1969 and 1979.

Data for 1959 are not available. The information as is available for the other years requested, or for an adjacent year, is given in the table below.

the position with the major firms in the industry.

The information requested is given in the table below. I have had no recent discussions with representatives of the electrical machinery industry on this matter, but we do of course discuss issues of mutual interest from time to time.

UNITED KINGDOM TRADE IN ELECTRICAL MACHINERY* ( OTS basis ) 1975=100 Terms of tradedRelative volumet ‡ 1978— First quarter 106 83 Second quarter 106 83 Third quarter 107 78 Fourth quarter 108 77 1979— First quarter 113 63 Second quarter 121 65 Third quarter 129 57 Fourth quarter 129 56 1980— First quarter 125 64 * SITC(R2) Divisions 75 to 77 and Group 716. † Export unit value index as a percentage of the import unit value index (not seasonally adjusted) ‡ Export volume index as a percentage of the import volume index (seasonally adjusted).

Ethiopian Refugees

asked the Lord Privy Seal (1) whether, in the light of the urgent need for assistance to Ethiopian refugees in Somalia, he will take the steps to provide aid to Somalia for their support;

(2) whether he will discuss with other EEC Governments a joint programme of aid to Somalia to assist refugees from Ethiopia.

The Government intend to make a suitable contribution to the appeal issued by the Secretary-General of the United Nations for international assistance for refugee relief in Somalia. The European Community has already decided to make a grant of 5 million units of account (approximately £3.1 million) from the European Development Fund. The British share of this is about £600,000.

Rural Areas (Job Creation)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what measure he is taking to encourage job creation in rural areas.

I echo the views of my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister on this subject in her reply to my hon. Friend on 8 November 1979,—[Vol. 973, c. 236–37.]

I am aware of the particular problems of rural areas, including their employment problems. The Government's policy is to provide a climate to stimulate the growth of real employment opportunities in rural and other areas. The Government are actively concerned to encourage traditional rural industries, notably agriculture, food processing and small businesses.

Skillcentres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will widen the eligibility limits for entry to skillcentres.

Eligibility for courses at skillcentres is determined by administrative rules covering the training opportunities scheme. These were carefully considered by the Manpower Services Commission in the course of a review of the scheme in 1978 and as a result eligibility was widened in certain respects. No further changes are proposed at present.

Unfilled Vacancies

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current level of unfilled vacancies as a proportion of the unemployed work force; and what underlying trend is shown by the monthly figures since May 1979.

In May 1979 there were 266,000 notified vacancies at employment offices, and the number of unemployed registered at those offices was 1,171,()00. In May 1980, the corresponding figures were 176,000 vacancies and 1,356,()00 unemployed. The number of vacancies is probably only about a third of all vacancies in the economy, and for this and other reasons a simple expression of the proportion of vacancies to unemployment may not be meaningful.

TUC

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will seek a meeting with the Trades Union Council to discuss its attitude to current legislative proposals from his Department.

I have had a number of discussions with the TUC about the proposals in the Employment Bill. I remain ready to meet it at any time.

Unemployment Trends

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is his Department's estimate of the underlying trend in unemployment levels.

Unemployment, excluding school leavers and seasonally adjusted, in Great Britain has increased since September 1979 by 27,000 a month on average.

Construction Industry (Manpower Statistics)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the latest figure for those directly engaged in the construction industry; and if he will publish henceforth as a separate statistic the numbers of those engaged in manufacturing materials and equipment and providing services for that industry.

At February 1980, the provisional number of employees in employment in the construction industry in Great Britain was 1,225,000. There is no comprehensive information about the numbers engaged in manufacturing materials and equipment and providing services for the industry.

Unemployment Levels

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the level of unemployment; and if he will make a statement.

Of course I am not satisfied with the level of unemployment. The level is likely to decline when inflation is overcome and when United Kingdom industry becomes fully competitive in home and overseas markets.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the current level of unemployment in North-West England and Great Britain, respectively.

At 8 May, the provisional numbers of people registered as unemployed in the North-West region and in Great Britain were 226, 274 and 1,441, 389, respectively.

Training Facilities

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what recent discussions he has had With the Trades Union Council and the Confederation of British Industry about the improvement of training facilities; and if he will make a statement.

The improvement of training facilities is a matter for the Manpower Services Commission, on which the TUC and CBI are represented. Consultation therefore takes place regularly with these bodies.

Countryside Skills (Development)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what study he is making of the need for the development of skills in maintaining and building dry- stone dykes, and the development of skills of thatchers, in the light of the work done by British Trust for Conservation Volunteers and the Countryside Commission for Scotland at the Muiravonside country park and elsewhere.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that it has no evidence that such a study is needed.

I understand that the experience of the Council for Small Industries in Rural Areas is that the current level of training in thatching is appropriate.

Much of the maintenance and building of dry-stone dykes is carried out by local authorities and farmers, using their own labour or engaging self-employed dykers. It is also carried out by the British Trust for Conservation Volunteers.

The trust is a charity, promoting voluntary practical conservation work in the countryside including dyking but not thatching. Training at Muiravonside is in the form of short courses, partly funded by the Countryside Commission for Scotland, for volunteer group leaders. Training for employment is not provided.

Lost Working Days (14 May)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will estimate the number of working days lost on 14 May.

My Department's statistics of industrial stoppages relate only to terms and conditions of work, and exclude political action such as that on 14 May. We cannot make a close estimate of numbers of people involved, but such information as is available suggests that more than 90 per cent. of the work force went to work last Wednesday.

Disabled Persons (Employment)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he is satisfied with industry's response to legislation in respect of the employment of the disabled.

At the last count 82 per cent. of those employers who were subject to the legislation were complying with its requirements, but I am not satisfied that this figure is a true reflection of employers' response to the employment of disabled people. I share the unease of many in this House about the ineffectiveness of the present quota, established under the Disabled Persons (Employment) Act 1944. I therefore look forward to receiving the Manpower Services Commission's recommendations about the best way of helping disabled people to get and keep suitable jobs, when its review of the present scheme is completed towards the end of the year.

Because of my concern about the employment of disabled people I have fully supported the MSC's " Fit for Work " campaign which encourages employers to adopt new positive approaches to all aspects of employing disabled people.

Northern Region

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is satisfied with the level of unemployment in the Northern region.

No. The level of unemployment in the Northern region remains much too high. The Government recognise that certain parts of the country, such as the North-East, require special help to overcome their particular unemployment problems, and regional policies have been implemented which are designed to provide this help. In the longer term, the economic future of the North depends upon a general improvement in the industrial performance of the country as a whole. This is one of the main aims of the Government's policies.

Clegg Commission

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what further progress he has made in his assessment of the future of the Clegg Commission.

I have nothing to add to the answer which my right hon. Friend gave my hon. Friend on 22 April.—[Vol. 983, c. 208 .]

Female Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimate he has made of the number of women who are seeking work but who are not registered as unemployed.

It is estimated that the number of women who are seeking work but who are not registered as unemployed is about a quarter of a million.

Youth Opportunities Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many places under the youth opportunities scheme will be provided in the Yorkshire and Humberside region during 1980–81; and how this compares with the 1979–80 figure.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the Yorkshire and Humberside regional plans for 1980–81 provide for 25,200 young people to enter the youth opportunities programme. The original plans for 1979–80 provided for 24,600 entrants, but, in fact, 21,500 young people entered the programme in the year.

Dangerous Substances (Maplin Sands)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether the Health and Safety Executive will be monitoring the tests to be carried out by the Shell United Kingdom Oil Company on the Maplin Sands, Essex, during the summer to ascertain the likely behaviour of liquefied gases in the event of a spillage.

The Health and Safety Executive will be monitoring the safety aspects of these tests.

Quangos

asked the Secretary of State for Employment why the Services Resettlement Committee for Scotland and the Services Resettlement Committee for the South and South-East are being continued; and to what extent their functions duplicate the work of the Advisory Committee on Resettlement of Ex-Regular Members of Her Majesty's Forces.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that these committees are being retained because they provide a means of maintaining contacts between commission staff and interests concerned with the resettlement of ex-Regulars in the areas in question. The functions of the two committees do not duplicate the work of the MSC Advisory Committee for the Resettlement of Ex-Regular Members of Her Majesty's Forces, since they are concerned essentially with matters within Scotland and the South and South-East of England respectively, whereas the advisory committee deals with broad policy considerations, and matters of a national nature. However, the work and functions of the two committees will be reviewed before the term of office of the present members expires in October next year.

Advisory Committee on Safety of Nuclear Installations

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Committee on Safety of Nuclear Installations, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

There is no separate advisory committee on the safety of nuclear installations for Scotland. The following information relates to the Advisory Committee on the Safety of Nuclear Installations whose remit relates to Great Britain.

The members of the committee are unsalaried although they are paid expenses; these amounted to some £5,300 in 1978–79. The committee does not itself disburse monies and no records of the costs of the Health and Safety Executive staff time directly attributable to servicing the committee are kept.

Work Permits

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what is the quota for applications from persons working in Hong Kong for work permits for the current year; and how many permits have been issued to date;

(2) what was the quota for applications from persons living in Hong Kong for work permits in the United Kingdom, in each of the last five years; and how many were granted in each year.

Permits for citizens of Hong Kong who do not satisfy the skills criteria of the general work permit scheme are issued within the special quota for dependent territories. For the years 1975 to 1979 the number of permits for any one territory was restricted to 200. Continuance of the special arrangements in 1980 is still under consideration. However, 46 applications to employ citizens of Hong Kong who do not satisfy the skills criteria of the work permit scheme are being held pending a decision. Permits issued for applications which satisfy the requirements of the work permit scheme, including the skill criteria are dealt with under the normal procedures and do not count against the quota.

Information on the number of permits issued is as follows: Permits issued for Hong Kong under the quota 1975 200 1976 200 1977 146 1978 124 1979 200 1980 —

Permits issued for Hong Kong—all 1975 1681 1976 993 1977 637 1978 639 1979 (prov) (630) 1980 N/A

The figures for permits include both permits issued for those workers overseas and permissions given to those already in this country for some other reason. They do not include foreign student employers or Commonwealth trainees, for whom permission was given for limited periods of supernumerary employment or for employment which was essential to a course of study.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what was the quota for applications from persons living in the United States of America for work permits in the United Kingdom in each of the last five years; and how many were issued in each year.

There have been no numerical restrictions on the numbers of work permits issued for citizens of the United States of America. Any application satisfying the requirements of the work permit scheme would have been approved.

The numbers of applications approved for citizens of the USA were as follows: 1975 4,388 1976 (estimated) 5,325 1977 4,911 1978 5,868 1979 (provisional) 5,971

The figures do not include those for student employees, for whom permission was given for limited periods of supernumerary employment. Neither do they include work permits for United States citizens taking work in Northern Ireland, which operates its own work permit scheme.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what is the present age limit for applications from persons living abroad for work permits in the United Kingdom; if he has any plans to increase this age limit; and if he will make a statement;

(2) how many work permits were issued for persons living abroad for permission to work in the United Kingdom during the past five years who were over the official age limit;

(3) how many work permits were issued to citizens of the United States of America to work in the United Kingdom in each of the past five years who were over the qualifying age.

In general only persons between the ages of 23 and 54 years of age are considered for the issue of work permits. The upper age limit is occasionally waived, however, when the overseas national concerned has some exceptional skill or very specialised knowledge to offer and the need for his services has been fully justified.

The age policy, like other policies of the work permit scheme, is under regular review. I do not propose at present to change either age limit.

My Department's statistical records make no analysis by age.

Such information can be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

Byssinosis

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many claims have been received, up to the latest convenient date, for payment under the Pneumoconiosis, Etc. (Workers' Compensation) Act 1979 to those suffering from Byssinosis; and how many of these claims have been rejected.

2,160 claims had been received up to Friday 16 May. 390 applicants have been told they are not entitled to a payment under the Act. The figures include claims from dependants of deceased sufferers.

Employment Rehabilitation Centres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what consideration he has given to the effect on attendance at employment rehabilitation centres of clause 3 of the Social Security (No. 2) Bill; and if he will make a statement;

(2) what proportion of people attending employment rehabilitation centres were drawing invalidity benefit immediately before commencing the course at the last date for which figures are available;

(3) of people completing courses of employment rehabilitation centres in the last period for which figures are available, what proportion ( a ) immediately entered full-time employment, ( b ) reverted to drawing sickness benefit, (c) reverted to drawing invalidity benefit, ( d ) reverted to drawing unemployment benefit and ( e ) reverted to drawing supplementary benefit only;

(4) in the last period for which figures are available, what proportion of people commencing courses of employment rehabilitation centres ( a ) completed the course and ( b ) dropped out in the first week, second week, third week, fourth week, fifth week, sixth week and seventh week;

(5) if he will publish in the Official Report whatever figures are available concerning successful re-establishment in employment of people who have attended courses of employment at rehabilitation centres.

Health and Safety Inspectors

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to the reply to the hon. Member for Keighley on 9 May, how a health and safety inspector, when exercising or seeking to exercise a power conferred on him by any of the relevant provisions in connection with specialist electrical work, is able to give evidence of the powers so specified.

All health and safety inspectors are issued by the enforcing authority which appoints them with an instrument in writing—a warrant—specifying which of the powers conferred on inspectors by the relevant statutory provisions they are entitled to exercise. An inspector should be prepared to produce the warrant, or a duly authenticated copy, if required to do so when exercising any of these powers.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how occupiers of factories and other premises can confirm which of the powers conferred on inspectors by the relevant statutory provisions are to be exercisable by the person appointed to make an inspection of premises, installation of equipment, and so on; and if he will make a statement.

Every inspector is issued by the enforcing authority which appoints him with an instrument in writing—a warrant—specifying which of the powers conferred on inspectors by the relevant statutory provisions he is entitled to exercise. Any occupier of premises who wishes to check the powers conferred on persons visiting his premises for the purposes of inspection should ask to see that person's warrant.

Homeworkers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) when the Homeworking Advisory Committee last met; when next it will meet; whether its agenda has yet been agreed; and, if so, what items are to be discussed;

(2) if he will maintain the home working unit within the Wages Inspectorate and at its established strength;

(3) what representations he has received about the Homeworking Advisory Committee.

The Homeworking Advisory Committee last met on 24 January 1979. The future of the committee and of the homeworking unit is still under consideration. I have received representations about the Homeworking Advisory Committee from hon. Members, the TUC, the Low Pay Unit, the National Union of Tailors and Garment Workers, and the National Joint Committee of Working Women's Organisations.

Press Notices

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if it is the policy of his Department to send only one press notice on any subject to each individual newspaper being circulated.

Wherever possible, only one press notice is sent to each newspaper. However, where the subject is of interest to specialist correspondents more than one copy may be sent.

Industrial Tribunals

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many copies of press lists of industrial tribunals have been sent in the past to the Northern Echo.

Press Information (Departmental Charges)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment for what services his Department charges the press for the provision of information about activities for which it is responsible.

My Department makes no charges for the provision of information to the press.

Fatal Accidents

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people were killed in accidents at work during the last year for which records are available.

In 1979, 639 fatal accidents at work were reported to the Health and Safety Executive and other enforcement authorities.

Retail Price Index (Cigarette Prices)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will convene a meeting of the RPI Advisory Committee with a view to examining the possibility of removing cigarette prices from the index.

[ pursuant to his reply, 15 April 1980, c. 438 ]: The advice of the advisory committee on the coverage of the main retail prices index (RPI) is set out in the reply following. The first essential purpose of the RPI is to provide an overall measure of price changes of goods and services bought by households in general. For various purposes, however, it is necessary to look deeper than one overall figure and consider the detailed information already available which enables separate allowance to be made for the effects of individual price changes, for example of tobacco, if required for particular purposes. I have noted with great interest the views recently expressed but the arguments have not so far led me to seek to convene the advisory committee.

Retail Price Index Advisory Committee

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the current membership of the Retail Price Index Advisory Committee indicating the organisations represented by, or nominating each member, the dates in the past five years when the committee has met, and the dates on which it discussed the inclusion or removal of tobacco products from the retail price index; and if he will publish its advice on this matter.

[ pursuant to his reply, 25 April 1980, c. 205–6 ]: Details of the membership of the RPI Advisory committee were given to the hon. Member on 30 October 1979. The committee last met in November 1977 to consider certain changes in presentation and some technical improvements in the method of calculation of the index. Previous to that a series of five meetings was held in 1973–74. The question of tobacco was not raised at any of these meetings.

Tobacco has been included in the RPI and its predecessors since 1914. The principle on which the coverage of the index is presently based was reported on by the Advisory committee in 1956 and reaffirmed by the committee in 1968.

In its report in 1956 " Report on proposals for the new index of retail prices " (Cmnd. 9710) the advisory committee said: From time to time suggestions have been made that the retail prices index should take account of price changes only for those goods or services that could be regarded as basic necessaries. For example, it might be suggested that alcoholic drink, tobacco, entertainment, etc. should be excluded. In the past the index has never purported to measure price changes for necessaries only and apart from the difficulty of defining ' necessaries ' there would be many serious objections to a limitation of the index in this way. We are firmly of the opinion that, as in the past, the general design of the index should be such as to enable price changes to be measured for the whole field of goods and services over which households distribute their expenditure ".

The committee reaffirmed its view in 1968 in " A report of the Cost of Living Advisory Committee " (Cmnd 3677) that the index is designed to reflect price changes throughout the whole field of consumer goods and services.

PRIME MINISTER (ENGAGEMENTS)

asked the Prime Minister what are her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 20 May.

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asked the Prime Minister what are her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

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asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will state her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 20 May.

I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Blackburn (Mr. Straw).

TURBINE INDUSTRY

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement on the United Kingdom turbine industry.

In recent years the United Kingdom turbine industry has experienced a low level of home demand. Orders for two further advanced gas cooled reactors are expected to be placed later this year and they, together with the nuclear programme announced last December, should provide a firmer base for the industry.

With the assistance of the full range of Government services, the industry has achieved some notable successes in export markets despite intense international competition.

CBI

asked the Prime Minister if she will arrange a meeting with the Confederation of British Industry at which she will be accompanied by the Secretary of State for Industry.

TAX EVASION (PENALTIES)

asked the Prime Minister whether she is satisfied with the level of penalties available for punishing tax evaders.

My hon. and learned Friend the Minister of State, Treasury announced on 28 February that the Government would be setting up a committee to review the enforcement powers of the Inland Revenue and the Customs and Excise. We shall take account of the views of that committee in reaching decisions on the level of penalties for tax evasion.

GOVERNMENT POLICIES

asked the Prime Minister if she will publish a review of those policies on which she has found it necessary to change course during the past 12 months.

EUROPEAN COMMUNITY (BUTTER SALES)

asked the Prime Minister if, pursuant to her reply to the hon. Member for Ruislip—Nortbwood (Mr. Wilkinson) on 1 May, concerning sales of surplus butter by the European Economic Community, she will state the nature of any representations since made by Her Majesty's Government.

My right hon. Friend the Lord Privy Seal raised the question of butter sales to the USSR with the Vice-President of the EC Commission responsible for External Relations, Herr Haferkamp, on 6 May, and emphasised that it was a matter of great public concern in the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom Permanent Representative to the European Communities, Sir Michael Butler, made the same point in the Committee of Permanent Representatives; on 14 May.

LIBYA (EMBASSY STAFF)

asked the Prime Minister if, in view of Colonel Gaddafi's recent threat to the lives of Libyan nationals living abroad and the recent killing of three Libyan exiles in Europe, she will consult European Economic Community Heads of Government to arrange the expulsion of Libyan embassy staffs immediately from the United Kingdom and other member States of the Common Market.

I have nothing to add to the statement made to the House on 12 May by my hon. Friend the Minister of State, Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

ENERGY CONSERVATION (DEPARTMENTAL CO-ORDINATION)

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the existing arrangements between Government Departments for the co-ordination of energy conservation policy.

EUROPEAN COMMUNITY (COMMON AGRICULTURAL POLICY)

asked the Prime Minister whether she will discuss at the European Council in Venice revisions in the Treaty of Rome to deal with fundamental reform of the common agricultural policy, and the problems caused to that policy by the enlargement of the Community.

The improvement of the common agricultural policy inevitably underlies discussions on other topics, in particular Britain's contribution to the budget, but I do not expect it to be a specific item on the agenda at the next European Council. Satisfactory reform of the policy would not need changes in the Treaty of Rome.

CIVIL SERVICE MANPOWER

asked the Prime Minister, pursuant to her statement on 13 May, what management techniques she used to decide that 75,000 was precisely the right number by which to reduce the size of the Civil Service.

The figure of 75,000 further reductions was our best judgment of what was feasible and desirable in the light of all the evidence. We have already identified a number of savings, which were announced on 6 December by my right hon. and noble Friend the Lord President of the Council. There will be more to come from particular studies and reviews now in hand. We also took into account evidence on the scope for additional savings from such areas as staff inspection reports and Sir Derek Rayner's scrutinies of departmental expenditure.

Occupational Pensions

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the estimated loss of revenue that would result if all taxation of occupational pensions ceased.

European Community (Local Income Taxes)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer which member States of the European Economic Community operate local income taxes; and which operate property taxes similar to British rates.

There are local income taxes in Belgium and Denmark. There are also local taxes on business profits only in Germany and Luxembourg, and Italy has local taxes on investment income. Property taxes comparable to British rates are levied in Belgium, Denmark, France, Luxembourg and the Netherlands.

Family Income

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if it is his intention to make reckonable for tax the national insurance child additions payable with widows invalidity, non-contributory invalidity and retirement pensions, invalidity allowance and with unemployment and sickness benefit when the claimant is over retirement age;

(2) if it is his intention to make reckonable for tax the national insurance child additions payable with unemployment and sickness benefit.

Income Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will update Year Number liable to income tax Numbers not liable who would have been liable if allowances of preceding year had remained unchanged ( a ) ( b ) ( a ) ( b ) '000 '000 '000 '000 1977–78 … … 20,900 25,200 1,300 2,100 1978–79 (provisional) 21,300 25,900 200 400 1979–80 (estimated) … … 21,300 25,900 800 1,300 1980–81 (estimated) … … 21,300 25.900 800 1,300 ( a ) Married couples counted as one. ( b ) Earning wives counted separately.

Statistics

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why the figures for relative wholesale prices, relative export prices and relative normal unit labour costs given in the Monthly Review of External Trade Statistics differ from those given in the International Monetary Fund Annual Statistics.

The indices of relative export prices and relative wholesale prices calculated by the Department of Trade use different weights from those used in the indices calculated by the IMF. Descriptions of the weights appear in the article " Aspects of United Kingdom trade competitiveness" in the February 1979 issue of Economic Trends. The IMF weights are also described in the notes to International Financial Statistics. Revisions to the underlying series can also lead to temporary differences between the indices.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the International Monetary Fund index of relative normal unit labour costs assumes that labour costs rise or fall as capacity working is approached; how the actual capacity working in 1979 for the United Kingdom and the principal industrial countries compares with the capacity assumed in the International Monetary Fund calculations; and what is the correlation in the case of the United Kingdom between this index and the index of relative export prices since 1975.

the reply given to the hon. Member for Birkenhead (Mr. Field), Official Report, 22 May 1979, c. 92, showing the numbers liable to pay income tax and the numbers taken out of tax yearly since 1945.

The IMF index makes no explicit assumptions about labour costs, but assumes that the cyclical movement in average earnings is small compared with that in productivity. The detailed figures used in the calculation of the index are held by the IMF in Washington.

It has not been found necessary to derive the co-efficient of correlation between the index of relative normal unit labour costs and the index of relative export prices, but this may be calculated using the figures published in the Monthly Review of External Trade Statistics.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will take steps to exempt from value added tax the car tax payable on new cars.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will seek to exempt from value added tax payments made by or on behalf of pupils below the compulsory school leaving age for goods and services in connection with youth hostelling.

[ pursuant to his reply, 19 May 1980, c. 41 ]: No. To do so would be inconsistent with the purpose and nature of the tax.

Cars (Purchase Tax)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what rate of purchase tax was payable on cars during the five years ended 31 March 1973.

The rates in question were: From 21.7.66 27 ½ per cent. " 20.3.68 33⅓ per cent. " 23.11.68 36⅔ per cent. " 20.7.71 30 per cent. " 22.3.72 25 per cent.

Industrial Countries (Payments Deficit)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the payments deficit of the main industrial countries in 1979 excluding oil on ( a ) visible trade, ( b ) current account and ( c ) capital account.

Balances excluding oil are not readily available. Balances including oil are published by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development in Main Economic Indicators.

Manufacturing Output

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the growth of output per man hour in manufacturing in the United Kingdom in 1979: and what is his estimate of the likely growth of output for the current year.

Output per man hour in manufacturing is estimated to have grown by 207 per cent. calendar year 1979 on calendar year 1978. The Treasury estimate of the fall in manufacturing output calendar year 1980 on calendar year 1979 was given by Mr. Cassell in evidence to the Treasury and Civil Service Committee on 2 April 1980. It is of the order of 4½ per cent.

Income Tax Allowances

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers derived benefit from the dependent relatives' allowance in 1979–80, how many from the housekeepers' allowance and how many from the sons' or daughters' services allowance; and what was the resulting gain to the net income of the taxpayer in respect of each allowance in the average case.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers derived benefit from the additional personal allowance for children in 1979–80; and what was the resulting gain to the net income of the taxpayer in the average case.

About 435,000 taxpayers received tax relief amounting to about £160 each, on average for 1979–80.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many people qualified for the age allowance for single elderly persons in 1979–80 and how many for the married elderly persons' allowance; what were the increases in the net income of the single and of the married beneficiaries in the average cases; and what where the numbers who actually derived benefit in each category.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers derived benefit in 1979–80 in respect of the wife's earned income allowance; and what was the resulting gain to the taxpayer's net income in the average case.

Income Tax Assessment (Married Couples)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many married couples are now separately assessed for income tax; and what estimate he has made of the value of the option in terms of additional net income to the average married couple choosing to exercise it.

Overseas Direct Investment

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the level of United Kingdom direct investment overseas in 1979; and, as a percentage, how much more was invested than ( a ) West Germany, ( b ) France and ( c ) Japan.

I have been asked to reply.

The value of United Kingdom net direct investment overseas in 1979 is given in table 10 of the article " United Kingdom balance of payments in the fourth quarter and year 1979" in Economic Trends, March 1980, a copy of which is in the Library. Comparable data for other countries is not available.

Option Mortgage Scheme

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers derived benefit from the option mortgage scheme in 1979–80; and what was the resulting gain to the taxpayer in the average case.

Mortgage Interest (Tax Relief)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many taxpayers derived benefit from the concession allowing mortgage interest on their homes to be a deduction for tax in 1979–80; and what was the resulting gain to the taxpayers' net income in the average case.

Social Security Benefits

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will amend the answer given to the hon. Member for Birkenhead on 12 February on raising benefits, listing those social security benefits which will ( a ) remain untaxable, ( b ) be abated by 5 per cent. from November and ( c ) be taxed as soon as the machinery exists for so doing.

Taxpayers (Income Bands)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will list the number of taxpayers, treating married couples as one unit in each of the following income bands: up to £2,000, £2,000 to £4,000, £4,000 to £5,000, £5,000 to £6,000, £6,000 to £8,000, £8,000 to £10,000, £10,000 to £15,000, £15,000 to £20,000 and over £20,000.

[ pursuant to his reply, 13 May 1980, c. 407–8 ]: Firm information on changes in the distribution of income since 1977–78 is not available at present. The following estimates for 1980–81 have been projected from 1977–78.

Income ranges £ Number of Taxpayers (Counting married couples as one unit) thousands Up to 2,000 920 2,000–4,000 5,040 4,000–5,000 2,830 5,000–6,000 2,520 6,000–8,000 4,250 8,000–10,000 2,730 10,000–15,000 2,230 15,000–20,000 470 over 20,000 320 TOTAL 21,310

The figures represent the estimated numbers of persons liable to tax in 1980–81 after taking account of the proposed increases in allowances.

Customs and Excise (Shetland Visit)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the cost of the recent visit to Shetland by Mr. Fraser of Her Majesty's Customs and Excise; and for what reason the visit was made.

[ pursuant to his reply, 19 May 1980, c. 42 ]: This visit to parts of Aberdeen Collection, including Shetland, took place in April 1980. The cost of air fares and subsistence was £212.90. The reason was to learn more of the work and living conditions of Customs and Excise staff in the areas visited and to have some opportunity of discussing matters of joint concern; and also to see something of the operating conditions of Revenue cutters, on board one of which the Shetland part of the journey was undertaken.

Baddesley Clinton

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether the acquisition by the National Trust of Baddesley Clinton was facilitated financially by the national land found; and whether he will specify the procedure whereby this assistance was proffered, the form which it took and the sum which was involved.

[ pursuant to his reply, 19 May 1980, c. 43 ]: Baddesley Clinton, its contents and 120 acres of surrounding parkland were purchased by my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment under subsection 5(1) and (2) of the Historic Buildings and Ancient Monuments Act 1953. The cost of acquiring the property, £327,000, was met from the national land fund as provided for in section 7 of the same Act. The property was transferred under subsection 5 (3) of the 1953 Act to the National Trust, who will manage it and open it to the public.

Excise Duty

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how much revenue is raised by every extra 1 per cent. in excise duty on (a) beer, (b) wine, (c) spirits and (d) tobacco; and what is the effect on the retail price index in each case.

[ pursuant to his reply, 19 May 1980, c. 44 ]: One per cent. increases in specific rates of excise duties would produce approximately the following amounts of additional revenue (including VAT) in a full year: £ million Beer 12 Wine 4 Spirits 3 Tobacco 16

The estimate for tobacco includes also the additional yield from the ad valorem duty on cigarettes which would accrue from an increase in the specific rate of duty.

In each case, the effect on the Index of Retail Prices of a 1 per cent. increase in the rate of specific duty would be negligible.

Fishing Industry

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the amount of operating aid paid to the British fishing industry in the financial year 1979–80 compared with 1974–75.

There is no precise definition of operating aid, but in 1979–80 total expenditure on assistance to the United Kingdom fishing industry is provisionally estimated to have been £16.9 million. Of this figure, £15.7 million was in respect of continuing schemes, including grants and loans for various purposes; in addition £756,174 was paid in respect of dock and harbour dues at Fleetwood, Hull and Grimsby, and £432,608 was paid in respect of exploratory voyages.

The total for expenditure in 1974–75 was £11.55 million; a detailed breakdown is published in the Appropriation Accounts presented to Parliament. Class III, Votes 7 and 8.

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has received from the British fishing industry for more aid since the announcement of his temporary aid scheme.

We have in recent weeks received a number of representations from or on behalf of the fishing industry for new measures to help it meet its problems. We discussed these issues with representatives of the industry at a meeting on 13 May and will hold a further meeting in July to reassess the situation in the light of developments both on the domestic market and within the Community.

Fish Imports

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what representations he has made to Commissioner Gundelach over increasing tariffs on fish imports from third party nations.

My right hon. Friend has pressed the Commission to examine the scope for increasing the tariffs which apply to imports of white fish from Third World countries, and to make proposals.

Bowness Common

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what decision has been reached on the grant application of which he has been informed in respect of the reclamation of land at Bowness Common.

This application for grant under the farm and horticulture development scheme relates to the reclamation of the 100 acres of bog at Bowness Common.

The land forms part of a site of special scientific interest (grade I). It is one of the few remaining examples of a raised mire in this country and is important for its uncommon plant assemblage.

I visited the site with my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for the Environment earlier this year, in order to discuss the proposals with the farmer and a representative of the Nature Conservancy Council (NCQ. My hon. Friend sought to facilitate an agreed solution for conserving the site but this has unfortunately proved impracticable.

The farmer is understandably anxious for an early decision on his grant application. Taking into account the Minister's obligation under section 11 of the Countryside Act 1968 to have regard to the desirability of conserving the natural beauty and amenity of the countryside, including its flora and fauna, the advice of the regional panel who heard the farmer's representations and that of the NCC, as well as the outcome of my visit to the site, I cannot agree to grant aid the drainage of this land.

University Non-teaching Staffs (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will introduce measures to ensure that all higher educational institutions comply with the national rates of pay established by the joint manual and ancillary committee of the Central Council for University Non-Teaching Staffs.

No. Universities are autonomous and it is for any university or university college concerned to decide whether or not to adopt the rates of pay established by the committee. The position of manual staff in other higher education institutions varies but the rates of pay agreed in the committee would not necessarily be appropriate.

Secondary School Pupils (Music Lessons)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will publish in the Official Report the names of those local education authorities which currently, or plan to, charge pupils for music lessons in secondary schools; and what is the level of those charges.

My Department does not collect detailed information about local practices. It is for individual local education authorities to decide, subject to the provisions of the Education Acts, whether or how much to charge for music lessons given in particular circumstances in their schools.

Inner London

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what consultations he has had, or is intending to have, with representatives of teachers' organisations to assist him in the examination he is currently undertaking into the administration, provision and financing of education in inner London:

(2) what consultation he has had, or is intending to have, with representatives of boroughs which are within the inner London education area to assist him in the examination he is undertaking currently into the administration, provision and financing of education in inner London;

(3) what consultations he has had, or is intending to have, with ( a ) representatives of organisations representing parents in the inner London education area, ( b ) representatives of governors and managers of schools in the inner London education area, and ( c ) represenatives of institution-, of higher education administered by the Inner London Education Authority, to assist in the examination he is currently undertaking into the administration, provision and financing of education in inner London.

I have already received representations from several inner London boroughs and from a number of teachers, parents, school governors and institutions of higher education, about possible future arrangements for education in inner London. These and any further written expressions of views—including any received from the organisations and interests mentioned by the hon. Member—will be given full consideration in the course of the internal Government inquiry.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects that his examination of the administration, provision and financing of education in inner London will be completed.

The Government's examination will be completed as soon as possible, bearing in mind the need for a thorough investigation of all the relevant issues.

Institut Laue-Langevin

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the reason for the payment under Class X Vote 17 Sub-Head A5 of £9,065,000 to the Institut Laue-Langevin.

The payment is made in accordance with international agreements signed in 1974 between the British, French and Federal German Governments and between their respective scientific agencies—the Science Research Council in the case of the United Kingdom—to cover the operation of a neutron beam reactor at the Institut Laue-Langevin, situated at Grenoble, France. The text of the inter-governmental agreement was published in 1975 as Cmnd. 5941., a copy of which is available in the Library.

The payment provides scientists based in the United Kingdom with access to facilities for neutron scattering and for similar experiments which they would not otherwise have. Such experiments are of major importance in the fields of chemistry, physics, biology and polymer science.

Overseas Students

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what representations he has received from Commonwealth high commissioners concerning his decision to charge full cost fees to students coming from overseas countries outside the Common Market; and what reply he has sent.

I have received representations expressing concern from the High Commissioner for the Kingdom of Lesotho. In reply my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State said that the policy of full cost fees for overseas students is being introduced because of the overriding need to reduce public expenditure. I have also received representations from the Commonwealth Secretary General following a meeting of Commonwealth high commissioners. I shall be replying shortly.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will extend home-student status now enjoyed by British students and those coming from the European Economic Community to undertake higher education, to students from Commonwealth countries who have been accepted for courses in Great Britain.

No. To extend the home-student concession to the 40,000 or so Commonwealth students in Great Britain would seriously affect our policy of reducing public expenditure.

Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many teachers are employed in schools; and if he will make a statement.

In January 1980 the numbers of teachers in nursery, primary and secondary schools in England and Wales totalled 467,564. This represents a reduction of just over 3,000 teachers from the previous year's total, a fall of 0.6 per cent. Pupil numbers fell from 8,891,000 in January 1979 to an estimated 8,717,000 in January 1980, a fall of 174,000 or 2 per cent. The overall pupil—teacher ratio has improved from 18.9:1 in 1979 to 18.6:1 in 1980.

British National Oil Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when he expects to announce the appointment of a new chairman of the British National Oil Corporation.

Drilling Rigs (Safety Standards)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many safety inspectors are employed in checking equipment and safety procedures on drilling rigs, production platforms and laying and lifting barges; how many visits were made to each such installation or vessel in 1978 and 1979; and whether there have been any changes in the average time spent on inspections in these years.

There are at present 13 inspectors of my Department's petroleum engineering division making safety inspections of drilling rigs and platforms. In 1978 they made 191 visits, in 1979 the number dropped to 156, largely as a result of a change of emphasis from routine inspection to the detailed investigation of incidents, 26 of which were investigated in depth. The time spent is not recorded, but it is believed that there has been no significant change for routine visits; accident investigation often involves lengthy interviews and statement-taking both offshore and onshore.

Responsibility for inspecting laying and lifting barges rests with the Health and Safety Commission. There are four Her Majesty's inspectors of factories involved in their inspection. In 1978 they made six visits to five vessels, in 1979 five visits to five vessels. There has been no change in the pattern of visits over the two years.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many drilling rigs applied for a certificate of fitness in 1979; how many were refused because they did not meet approved standards; and how many were granted dispensations from attaining approved standards in one or more respects and were granted certificates of fitness.

Only two drilling rigs applied for certificates of fitness in 1979, one certificate was granted, one is still under consideration. There were no dispensations asked for or given.

North Sea Oil (Refining Agreements)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if it is his policy to negotiate refining agreements with individual oil companies; what will be his objectives in such negotiations; and what steps will be taken to ensure development of refining and production of petrochemicals in Scotland to take account of oil landed from the Scottish sector of the North Sea.

All major United Kingdom refining companies consult my Department regularly about their use of North Sea oil and their refining activities and I do not consider it necessary or appropriate to extend these arrangements into " refining agreements " in the sense in which I understand the hon. Member to use the term.

The development of the petrochemical industry in Scotland, whether based on feedstocks from the United Kingdom sector of the North Sea or from foreign sources, is a matter for my right hon. Friends the Secretaries of State for Industry and Scotland, who keep in close contact with me on this question because of my responsibilities for the disposal of North Sea oil and gas.

Energy Survey Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many claimants took part in the energy survey scheme for a one-day visit.

To date some 24,900 applications have been received under the one-day arrangements of the energy survey scheme. Many claimants have submitted applications in respect of a number of different permises and it is not possible therefore to state separately the number of claimants.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will give the number of instances where work has been carried out as a result of the energy survey scheme; and if he will make a statement.

We are aware that many companies and public sector bodies have already undertaken energy conservation measures recommended by consultants who have carried out surveys under the energy survey scheme and that these are leading to useful energy savings. However, precise figures are not available.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how, and on what criteria, consultants are appointed under the Department of Energy's energy survey scheme; and what qualifications are required.

In general, any bona fide consultant with appropriate qualifications or experience in the energy field may be accepted for inclusion in the list compiled by the Department for the purposes of the energy survey scheme. However, consultants with a vested interest in the supply of fuels or in the manufacture, supply or installation of energy saving equipment or materials, or who specialise in tariff analysis are not eligible for inclusion in the list.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will give the number of claims under the energy survey scheme (a) nationally and (b) in the county of Avon; and if he will give the cost of each.

On a national basis some 25,700 claims and applications have been received in respect of surveys carried out or to be carried out under the Energy Survey Scheme. Approximately £2 million has been spent to date on reimbursement of consultancy fees with forward commitments of around £700,000 in respect of extended surveys which are subject to prior approval by the Department. Separate statistics by reference to county are not kept.

Morecambe Bay

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when the Morecambe Bay gasfield will be developed; when it is expected to come on stream; and what is its expected annual output.

I have not yet received a development and production programme for the Morecambe field, although I understand from the British Gas Corporation

Mode of travel Petroleum thousand tonnes Coal thousand tonnes Coke and breeze thousand tonnes Electricity TWh Rail* 873 59 3 2.96† Public service vehicles and taxis 946 — — — All cars and motor-cycles‡ 15,748 — — — * Includes use for movement of freight. †Electricity purchased from the public supply together with use from own generation. ‡Separate figures for " private cars " are not available.

Offshore Installations

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the current financial assistance given to yards producing offshore installations; whether these match the new Norwegian package where 80 per cent. credit over 12 years will be available; and, if not, what action he will take to restore parity.

Yards sited in the assisted areas of the United Kingdom may of course continue to be eligible for the regional aids administered by the Department of Industry. Apart from the incentives available to industry generally, no that one is in preparation. Such programmes are submitted to me in confidence.

North Sea Oil (Depletion Strategy)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what changes in depletion strategy are likely to flow from the extended acreages on offer under the seventh round.

New exploration under seventh round licences and in existing acreage will increasingly determine the levels of oil production achievable in the 1990s when output from existing fields will be in sharp decline. I am discussing production prospects with the industry and expect to make a statement on depletion policy to the House shortly.

Travel (Energy Usage)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he has any statistical information on the energy used for travel by bus, train, other public transport and private cars; and if he will publish what information is available on the subject.

The following information, partly estimated, is available for 1979:

financial assistance is available to yards producing offshore installations, whether fixed or mobile. However, under section 10 of the Industry Act 1972 the Secretary of State for Industry may, with the consent of the Treasury, guarantee the repayment of a loan made to a United Kingdom buyer of a mobile offshore installation (or ship) ordered in the United Kingdom.

The Government have no plans to match the scheme operated by the Norwegians.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when the order will be approved for the production platform for the Brae field; and if the fair opportunity purchase scheme will apply.

Announcements of orders for production platforms are a matter for the oil operating company responsible for developing the field. I have received assurances from Marathon Oil, operator for the Brae field, that United Kingdom industry will be given a full and fair opportunity to compete for the order.

European Community (Council of Energy Ministers)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what conclusions were reached at the meeting of the Council of Energy Ministers on 13 May.

The Energy Ministers had a useful discussion of the matters referred to them by the European Council at its recent meeting in Luxembourg, and devoted particular attention to the current and prospective situation on the world oil market and the Community's energy strategy for the decade to 1990. Ministers agreed on the need to consider whether additional measures might be necessary to improve the Community's capacity to cope with oil market disturbances or supply shortages and asked the Commission to examine this question further and report to them at a Council in September. As part of the strategy for 1990 they also reached agreement on two resolutions of which the first established general Community energy policy guidelines for 1990 and the second sets out the lines of action for 1990 in the field of energy saving. They also invited the Commission to examine member States' energy investment programmes with a view to reporting further to the Council in September on the case for the additional support at Community level which has been suggested in recent Commission communications.

Demolition and Dismantling Industry Register

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received concerning the operation of the demolition and dismantling industry register; whether he is satisfied that his Department should continue to endorse this register; and if he will make a statement.

Since May 1979, I have received two letters from Members of Parliament and three from the National Federation of Self-Employed and Small Businesses concerning the demolition and dismantling industry register. I am currently reviewing the Department's policy towards the register and will make an announcement as soon as this is complete.

Rent Allowances

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many private sector households are currently in receipt of rent allowances; what estimate he has made of the proportion this represents of the total number eligible; and what are the average weekly amounts paid in inner London and in the areas eligible for the lower scales of allowance.

At April 1979, 208,000 private sector tenants in England and Wales were in direct receipt of rent allowances. This figure includes 200,000 allowances granted to tenants in unfurnished accommodation representing an estimated 50 per cent.-55 per cent. of the number eligible. It is not possible to provide a reliable estimate of the number of eligible tenants in furnished accommodation.

The average weekly allowance granted to private tenants at April 1979 was ( a ) £4.52 in Inner London, as a whole, ( b ) £5.07 in the areas of those authorities in Inner London granted an authorisation under Section 20(5) of the Housing Finance Act 1972 to pay more generous rent rebates and allowances because rents in their areas are exceptionally high, and ( c ) £4.12 in areas in Inner London where there is no such authorisation.

Public Sector Construction Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement on the Government's plans for capital expenditure construction programmes in the public sector over the next four years.

As explained in " The Government's Expenditure Plans 1980–81 to 1983–84 " (Cmnd. 7841) decisions have not yet been taken in all cases on allocations within the main programmes and it is not possible, therefore, to extend the analysis of capital expenditure on construction work beyond 1980–81.

Housing Rehabilitation

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many dwellings he expects will be rehabilitated in each of the years 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83 and 1983–84: to what extent these figures will have been affected by the measures announced by the Minister for Housing and Construction on 23 April; and how many of these dwellings will have been rehabilitated under the programme for acquisition, improvement and sale.

The numbers of dwellings rehabilitated in future years will depend on decisions by individual householders whether to improve their homes, and on decisions by individual local authorities and housing associations on the use of the resources allocated to them. I cannot, therefore, predict what the outcome will be. However, the improvement for sale scheme and changes in the system of renovation grants announced on 23 April, should materially help the rehabilitation process.

St. Enoch Station, Glasgow

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish details of the scheme planned jointly by his Department and the Scottish Development Agency at St. Enoch station site in Glasgow; and if he will make a statement.

The Property Services Agency has collaborated with the Scottish Development Agency in producing proposals for office accommodation for 1,400 Ministry of Defence staff on the central part of the site of the former St. Enoch Station. Planning of this scheme is at the outline stage, and details of the design have still to be formulated. Proposals for the development of the remaining part of the St. Enoch site are a matter for the Scottish Development Agency.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he intends to invite proposals from private devel- opers for the £15 million office complex at St. Enoch station, Glasgow; and if he will make a statement.

The method of funding of the office buildings for the Ministry of Defence at St. Enoch is still under consideration. The possibility of involving private developers will be kept very much in mind.

Local Authorities (Housing Allocations)

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment on what basis he will determine the allocation of resources for housing to individual local authorities for the years 1981–82 onwards.

I shall be considering with the local authority associations whether the method of allocation used for 1980–81 (see paragraphs 28–30 of the HIP allocations letter of 21 February 1980, a copy of which is in the Library) should be modified before the 1981–82 allocations are made.

Transport Policy

asked the Minister of Transport if it is the policy of Her Majesty's Government to ensure that greater use is made of public transport as opposed to other means of travel.

My policy is to ensure maximum freedom of choice for those who wish to travel and that is one of the aims behind part I of the current Transport Bill.

Licensing Centre (Dudley)

asked the Minister of Transport why he is proposing to close the licensing centre in Dudley and transfer it to Birmingham; what consultations were held, and with whom, before reaching this decision; what representations he has received, and from whom, against this proposal: and if he will make a statement.

The transfer of relicensing work to a wider range of post offices will enable us to provide a better service to the public and to save staff and other administrative costs. We shall not need as many local vehicle licensing offices. In February we consulted a wide range of interested bodies, including motor manufacturers, dealers and motoring organisations and staff side interests, on proposals for a reduced network of offices. We have received a large number of representations; 17 of them about Dudley, of which 12 were from hon. Members. The representations are being considered and we expect to reach final decisions shortly.

Light-controlled Junctions

asked the Minister of Transport what is his Department's policy towards the installation of audible warning signals for pedestrians at light-controlled junctions; and whether he will amend the traffic sign regulations and general directions so that local authority approval from his Deparment for the installation of such schemes is no longer necessary.

Trials indicate that, provided certain essential safety requirements are met, the audible pedestrian signal can be a valuable installation with pedestrian crossing signals at suitable light-controlled junctions. We are now prepared to authorise such signals if local authorities request them at sites meeting the safety requirements. We hope to proceed to prescribe the signal in regulations and so remove the need for our consent when we have had some more experience of them in use and can be satisfied that the specified safety requirements are the best possible.

Departmental Staff (Defections)

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many employees of his Department have defected to Communist countries in each of the last 12 years; and if he will publish details in the Official Report.

Classified Information (Release)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what instructions are issued to his officials about the release of classified information to former employees of his Department.

All officials are made aware that they are subject to the provisions of the Official Secrets Acts and to disciplinary regulations.

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether Mr. Don Cook, an official of his Department, was authorised to release classified information to Mr. Frank Wilks and Mr. Alec Garland, former officials in his Department.

Mr. Garland is not a former member of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

When inquiries are known to be being made into Government communications headquarters' activities, some of which are secret, it is normal to remind staff who may be concerned, including former staff where appropriate, of their obligations under Official Secrets Acts. Mr. Wilks was so reminded. No classified information was involved.

Palestine Liberation Organisation

asked the Lord Privy Seal what contacts Her Majesty's Government have had at any level, within the past year, with representatives of the Palestine Liberation Organisation.

We maintain occasional and informal contacts with representatives of the Palestine Liberation Organisation at official level in London and elsewhere, including Arab capitals and New York. These have continued during the past year. There have been no ministerial contacts other than an occasional encounter on social occasions.

GOVERNMENT COMMUNICATIONS HEADQUARTERS

asked the Attorney-General to what extent the Director of Public Prosecutions may request the police to investigate offences alleged to have been committed by employees of the Government Communications Headquarters.

The Director has the power to request a police report into any alleged offence within the jurisdiction of the courts of England and Wales.

SPECIAL BRANCH MEMBERS

asked the Attorney-General to what extent the Director of Public Prosecutions may request the police to investigate alleged offences committed by members of the Special Branch.

Chief officers of police have the duty to report to the Director any complaint against a police officer unless satisfied that no criminal offence has been committed.

Warships

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the maintenance of the Euro-group's warship-building capability.

Those European nations of the North Atlantic Alliance with warship building capabilities regularly discuss the possibilities of co-operation and improving interoperability both through the wider NATO fora and within the Independent European Programme Group. Within Britain an adequate capability will be maintained to meet the requirements of the Royal Navy in the years ahead.

Arms Production

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the policy of Her Majesty's Government regarding the setting up of European consortia for arms production, as referred in recommendation No. 339 of the Assembly of Western European Union.

The setting up of European consortia for arms production is also the subject of Western European Union Recommendation 338. I have nothing to add to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for South Ayrshire (Mr. Faulkes) on 15 May.—[Vol. 984, c. 578 .]

Anti-radiation Suits

asked the Secretary of State for Defence, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Keighley of 9 May, whether all Service personnel are to be provided with carbon-bonded anti-radiation suits; and under what circumstances he envisages their use.

Suits to protect the wearer from the effects of nuclear, biological and chemical (NBC) warfare are not issued to all Service personnel. This clothing is designed to protect personnel who are threatened by NBC attack in war.

Departmental Staff (Defections)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many employees of his Department have defected to Communist countries in each of the last 12 years; and if he will publish details in the Official Report.

Job Mobility (Pension Rights)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take action to encourage greater job mobility by improving the position of those who change their jobs as regards pension rights.

The complex issue of the protection to be afforded to the pension rights of those who change or leave employment is being considered by the Occupational Pensions Board. We must await its report, which I hope will be available in the early part of next year.

Family Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to his reply to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North, Official Report, 1 May, column 642, what is his analysis of the reason why it would be rare for families drawing supplementary benefit to have maximum disregarded earnings; if he will publish the figures on which this statement is based; and how they were obtained.

The small number of families on supplementary benefit where the man has part-time earnings is thought to reflect lack of opportunity for part-time work in many occupations. I indicated in my original answer how few unemployed claimants had any disregarded earnings; more precisely there were 8,000 such claimants out of 598,000 in November 1978. The figures were obtained from the annual statistical inquiry, which is based on the records of a sample of claimants.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, using the same assumptions as in the reply given to the hon. Member for Norfolk, North in the Official Report, 1 May, column 660, how much extra spending power a married man with two children aged four and six years would enjoy if he increased his earnings from £45 per week to £85 per week.

On the assumptions used in table 4 in my earlier reply, if the £45-a-week man increased his earnings to £85 he would retain his family income supplement of £7.80 for the balance of the 12-month period for which it was awarded. His children's free welfare milk and free school meals would continue for the same period. He would pay an extra £12 in income tax and £2.70 in national insurance contributions and lose his rent and rate rebates. Thus, on the given assumptions his gain in the short or medium term would be £16.55 a week.

As my hon. Friend will appreciate, this indicates that the effects of the so-called poverty trap cannot be judged by quoting the figures of net weekly spending power in the final columns of the illustrative tables. Any comparisons of net weekly spending power should extend over a minimum period of a year, taking account of pay rises and other changes in earnings, increases in the levels of personal tax allowances and of social security and other benefits, and other changes in family circumstances in that period. It is not normally possible to make any forward comparison; for example, in the case quoted by my hon. Friend, there are factors as yet unknown such as the rent and rate rebate levels from November 1980 and the tax changes in next year's Budget.

Thames Regional Boards (Financial Statements)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if item 3(e) of the annual losses and compensation statements of the four Thames regional hospital boards includes the non-payment of charges for private hospital beds; and if in the 1979 accounts, which show no losses in this section for the North West, South East and South West boards and the area authorities, they received all the sums due in the teaching hospital sector.

The losses statements submitted by regional health authorities record only the losses of those authorities themselves. Any write-off of uncollected charges for the use of private patient facilities in NHS hospitals would be included among the claims abandoned and bad debts recorded at item 3( b ) of the losses statement submitted by the area health authority or board of governors to which the charges were payable. Losses statements for 1978–79, submitted by 22 area health authorities and 11 boards of governors in the Thames regions, record losses against item 3( b ) but the extent to which the figures included any amounts in respect of unpaid charges for private beds are not separately identified in the accounts submitted to the Department.

Overseas Doctors

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he is satisfied that it remains unnecessary to have some degree of control over the employing of overseas doctors in hospitals; and if he will consider ensuring that they have conditions that allow adequate training and reasonable conditions of work.

I am satisfied that there is at this stage no need to add to the existing controls covering the employment of overseas doctors in hospitals. Responsibility for the conditions in training posts, and for the quality of the training provided, rests with the health authorities and the relevant educational bodies. The aim is to ensure that all posts should be satisfactory in both respects, whoever occupies them.

Disabled Drivers (Petrol Allowance)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when the petrol allowance for disabled drivers was last fixed and at what amount; what is the level it would have had to be raised to in order to keep pace with inflation; and when he intends to increase it.

This allowance has remained at its current level of £10 a year since January 1975. I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Morris) on 7 February.—[Vol. 978, c. 323–4 .]

Foetal Development (Abnormality Detection)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of the higher incidence of neural tube defects of the foetus in the Celtic populations of the United Kingdom, if he will make finance available to investigate further this regional discrepancy.

The Medical Research Council is the main Government-funded body supporting research into this condition from funds provided by the Department of Education and Science and the Health Departments.

The Health Departments have informed the council of the priority we attach to the need for more research into the methods for early detection of foetal abnormality and of screening for neural tube defects and other genetically determined conditions.

The Medical Research Council is already supporting research aimed directly at the condition and also more broadly-based research which may increase understanding of its cause.

The Health Departments is also supporting research into health services aspects of the condition.

The higher incidence of neural tube defects in babies born in the Celtic populations of the United Kingdom has been recognised for some years, and current and future research can be expected to cover this aspect.

Other research from Government funds is also being undertaken in universities and hospital medical schools.

Hospital Provision (Islington)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will now indicate the target date for the start of the proposed new development at the Whittington hospital; what additional resources will be allocated to meet the proposal for a major role in the future for the Royal Northern hospital; what role is envisaged for Islington hospitals in-teaching; and what further resources are to be allocated for this purpose.

I have told the health authorities that I will not agree to any plan for developing the Whittington hospital which does not include keeping a viable, worthwhile general service at the Royal Northern hospital. Development proposals have not yet been submitted to the Department and the hon. Member may, therefore, like to raise these issues direct with the North East Thames regional health authority.

Royal Northern Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will seek to ensure that the proposed temporary closure of the Royal Northern hospital accident and emergency department is subject to full public consultation.

I understand that the Camden and Islington area health authority (teaching) has decided that, until the consultation procedure is completed, the accident and emergency department at the Royal Northern hospital should remain fully operational as at present.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will publish his Department's report on the proposed closure of the Royal Northern hospital accident and emergency department and other related matters.

The advice I received from officials in the Department was not in a form suitable for publication. In view of the decisions taken by the Camden and Islington area health authority (teaching) on 12 May 1980, I do not propose to ask the Department to devote further official time to the preparation of a full report for publication.

Renal Replacement

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will take steps to provide greater financial and other back-up resources and facilities in the field of renal replacement, in the light of the fact that such operative procedures are carried out in the United Kingdom at only two-thirds of the frequency that they are performed in major countries of the European Economic Community.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply to the hon. Member for Brent, South (Mr. Pavitt) on 12 May.—[Vol. 984, c. 353 .]

Home Help Service

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will list in the Official Report all the local authorities which have introduced charges for the home help service, giving in each case the cost per week to the client;

(2) if he will give an estimate of the increase in the number of local authorities introducing charges for home helps during 1979–80.

Detailed information about the policies of individual local authorites on charges for the home help service is not available centrally.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will estimate the numbers of additions to weekly benefit for home helps expected by the Supplementary Benefits Commission between April and November.

Following the decision of the Supplementary Benefits Commission to award no further additions to weekly supplementary benefit from 29 February 1980 in respect of home helps provided by a local authority, we do not expect any increases between April and November this year in the number of cases in which such a reckonable expense is taken into account. As far as private home helps are concerned, we are unable to estimate the number of new additions that will be awarded during the period. The local authority associations have been informed that, in the Government's view, local authorities' discretionary power to charge for home helps should not be exercised in respect of people living at the supplementary benefit level.

Sight Tests and Spectacles

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of patients who currently receive free sight tests order lenses and frames of the type available under the National Health Service; and what proportion have National Health Service lenses fitted to private frames.

Herpetiformis

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what representations have been received by his Department calling for the listing of herpetiformis; and if he will make a statement.

No representations have been received in recent years for the inclusion of dermatitis herpetiformis in the list of specified medical conditions in the prescription charge exemption arrangements. The condition, however, was included in the list of additional conditions discussed with representatives of the medical profession when consideration was last given to extending the list. We have no plans at present to extend the list of specified medical conditions.

Child Abuse

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether he will take steps to assist local authorities to cope with cases of child abuse.

Child abuse is essentially a matter for local authorities and other agencies but the Department has in the past provided guidance from time to time to assist them in their task and my right hon. Friend is hoping to issue further guidance shortly. The Department is also preparing a synthesis of the reports of inquiries into child abuse cases, highlighting lessons which might be learnt from them, and is planning to review existing manuals of practice in child abuse in order to commend the best features to those revising their own manuals.

Mossley Hill Hospital (Homoeopathic Ward)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the closure of the homoeopathic ward at Mossley Hill hospital; and if he is satisfied that sufficient notice was given to staff and patients; and what alternative facilities are available for patients within the area.

I discussed the proposal of the Liverpool area health authority (teaching) to close temporarily the homoeopathic ward at Mossley Hill with the authority's chairman on 16 May. There are certain staffing difficulties in relation to that ward, notably the lack of a homoeopathic consultant. We agreed, however, that both out-patient and in-patient services in homoeopathy must be maintained in Liverpool, in line with the Government's undertaking that homoeopathy will continue at existing centres so long as there is a demand for it. The authority will be considering as a matter of urgency how best this can be achieved.

Kidney Donor Cards

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will place a supply of his redesigned card for kidney donors in the Library; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services whether, in view of the wide public concern about services for kidney patients, he will take steps to improve the kidney donor card scheme and ensure that voluntary funds are used effectively to supplement National Health Service services.

I agree there is great public sympathy for kidney patients. Everybody can help kidney sufferers if they wish, by offering to become a kidney donor. A new plastic kidney donor card which will be less likely to get damaged will be available from Tuesday 20 May onwards. Supplies will shortly be issued to all general practitioners' surgeries and other outlets. I hope this will help many more people to carry kidney donor cards. In addition, I shall shortly be introducing an entirely new card which will be for kidney donation and also for donating other parts of the body.

Individuals can play a very big part in adding to the resources of the health service through voluntary funding and I am writing to health authority chairmen asking for the closest possible understanding and co-operation between those responsible for the service and those who wish to help them through voluntary effort.

Mentally Handicapped Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will give any changes that have been made in the targets set out in table 5 of the White Paper, " Better Services for the Mentally Handicapped ".

No changes have been made to any of the planning figures in Table 5 which fall within the Department's responsibility. However, the Department has been reviewing progress since the White Paper and considering, among other things, whether any such changes are required.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the date fixed for each area after which hospitals were not asked to admit mentally-handicapped ( a ) adults and ( b ) children who needed residential care.

It is for local authorities to set such dates in consultation with health authorities and information on the extent to which they have done so is not available centrally. However, such information as I have suggests that very few children are now being admitted to mental handicap hospitals for long-term care.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of places for mentally-handicapped adults in hospitals for day patients for ( a ) treatment and ( b ) occupation and training.

In mental handicap units specifically designated for day care there were 745 places for adults and children on 31 December 1978, but this figure excludes day places in other parts of the hospital service about which information is not collected centrally.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of residential care places for mentally-handicapped adults in ( a ) local authority, voluntary or privately-owned residential homes, and ( b ) foster homes, lodgings, etc.; and which local authorities (i) have no direct residential places and (ii) have not yet met the 1971 guideline figures.

Information on residential accommodation for mentally handicapped adults is contained in the DHSS publication " Homes and Hostels for the Mentally 111 and Mentally Handicapped at 31 March 1978 " which is in the Library of the House. The 1980 edition of this publication containing the figures for 31 March 1979 will be placed in the Library by the end of this month.

The 1971 White Paper " Better Services for the Mentally Handicapped" suggested guidelines of provision to be achieved nationally by the early 1990s, and I would, therefore, not expect local authorities to have achieved them yet. On 31 March 1979 none had done so.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total number of occupation and training places for mentally handicapped adults ( a ) for adults living in the community and ( b ) for adults coming by day from hospital; and which authorities have not yet reached the 1971 guideline figures.

On 31 March 1979, there were 41,614 places for the mentally handicapped in adult training centres in England. I regret that information in the form requested is not collected centrally.

The 1971 guidelines suggested provision to be achieved nationally by the early 1990s, and I would not expect local authorities to have reached these figures yet. None had done so at the end of March 1979, the latest date for which figures are available.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the provision of hospital and community services for mentally-handicapped adults, listing the steps which he is taking to improve them.

I refer the hon. Member to my reply to him on 13 May.—[Vol. 984, c. 465 .]

Children (Spinal Deformities)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consideration he has given to the letter copied to the Under-Secretary of State on 9 April by Mr. R. A. Dickson of the Nuffield Department of Orthopaedic Surgery of the University of Oxford on the subject of screening for spinal deformity in children; what reply has been sent; if his Department will consider sponsoring the Oxford programme aimed at preventing the progression of scoliosis which Mr. Dickson proposed in his letter; and if he will make a statement.

I have studied with interest the documents copied to me by Mr. Dickson for my information, which I have acknowledged in the usual way. The screening programme to which the right hon. Gentleman refers is currently sponsored by the Oxford regional health authority.

Artificial Eyes

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what was the colour, range and material offered for artificial eyes for the following years, 1950, 1955, 1960, 1965, 1970 and 1975; what is on offer in the current year; and if he will make a statement.

It is not possible to define the colour and range of artificial eyes supplied in the National Health Service because these are and have been supplied individually to match the colour pupil and iris size of the natural eye and all need to be individually shaped to match the eye socket. Eye making techniques have gradually improved over the years mentioned to achieve better matching both in colour and its gradation, and a current research and development programme is aimed at simplifying the production process while retaining the continuum of colour and pupil and iris sizes currently available. The majority of artificial eyes are manufactured using plastics material but a small and decreasing percentage of glass eyes have been used by hospitals.

Child Benefit

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will seek to alter the basis on which the complete child benefit week is assessed for children in care to make it similar to benefits that are paid on a daily basis so as to remove the inducement to parents to keep their children away from school for a day to obtain the money for the complete child benefit week.

No. My right hon. Friend has no plans to redefine the complete child benefit week in the manner suggested.

Pharmacists (Remuneration)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when he expects the discussions taking place about the question of a review body for retail pharmacists' National Health Service remuneration to be completed.

The Government have agreed in principle to set up an independent agency to resolve disputes between the Department and the Pharmaceutical Services Negotiating Committee. I am now discussing with the committee the precise form such an agency should take and hope to be able to complete these discussions shortly.

Farmer's Lung

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in the light of the considerable numbers of individuals suffering from the effects of farmer's lung that have come to light following the implementation of the Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers' Compensation) Act 1979, he will introduce legislation to provide similar benefits for sufferers from this disease.

I have been asked to reply.

No, because this disease does not have the long development period common to those diseases covered by the Act.

Special Hospitals (Expenditure)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services by how much the ( a ) capital and ( b ) current expenditure of each of the four special hospitals, respectively, was increased over each of the years 1975 to 1979; and by how much it is expected to increase over each of the years 1980 to 1984.

[ pursuant to his reply, 29 April 1980, c. 442 ]: I am unable to give details on capital building projects in the special hospitals because, although the Department collaborates with the Property Services Agency in planning and forecasting the cost, the managing of the work and the accounting for the expenditure is the responsibility of my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for the Environment.

Detailed information on revenue expenditure for each hospital is not readily available but the net expenditure by the Department on the four special hospitals collectively (excluding headquarters' costs) at a common price level of Autumn 1979 was: £ 1975–76 16,979,000 1976–77 17,093,000 1977–78 17,849,000 1978–79 18,415,000 1979–80 19,931,000

and is forecast (at the same common price level) to increase as follows:

£ 1980–81 21,514,000 1981–82 22,241,000 1982–83 23,027,000 1983–84 23,674,000

Gwynedd

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what response he has made to the representations put to him by Gwynedd county council on 14 April in a document entitled " The Economic Situation of Gwynedd "; and if he will make a statement.

I have been giving detailed consideration to the points made by the county council and I will be sending a full reply shortly.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what additional funds he is making available to Gwynedd to meet the problems of the rundown of employment there, in line with the additional £48 million he is making available to other areas of Wales suffering from job losses.

I am aware of the employment situation in Gwynedd, but do not consider that the circumstances are comparable with those areas in South Wales receiving aid from the additional £48 million. Nevertheless, I am considering this suggestion along with others raised with me when I met the Gwynedd county council recently.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will make available to Gwynedd county council additional funds to undertake work on improving the county roads in Gwynedd, in view of the unemployment crisis facing the county.

In determining the allocation of resources for highway schemes in the annual transport supplementary grant settlements, we shall continue to take full account of the employment position and other economic conditions in each part of the Principality.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what discussions he has had with the Manpower Services Commission concerning the improvement of training facilities in Gwynedd; and if he will make a statement.

I have discussed training facilities in Gwynedd on several occasions with the chairman of the commission, who has undertaken to keep these under continuous review, particularly in the light of developments in the local labour market following the rundown of the work force at Dinorwig.

Capital Construction Schemes

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what capital construction schemes his Deparment has discussed with local government, with other public bodies and with the private sector, respectively, to provide jobs for those Number of Staff Date Chief Inspector Staff Inspector Inspector Total 1 April 1974 … … … 1 8 34 43 1 April 1975 … … … 1 8 38 47 1 April 1976 … … … 1 8 39 48 1 April 1977 … … … 1 8 39 48 1 April 1978 … … … 1 8 40 49 1 April 1979 … … … 1 8 46 55 1 April 1980 … … … 1 8 51 60

Education Advisers

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many advisers, classified by subject specialisation, are employed by each of the eight education authorities in Wales.

Colleges of Further Education (Staff-Student Ratios)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report the staff to student ratio in each of the colleges of further education in Wales for each of the years 1974 to the current year.

Primary and Secondary Schools (Pupil-Teacher Ratios)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the about to be made redundant from the Dinorwig pump storage scheme; and if he will make a statement.

It is for the private sector and public authorities concerned to decide on the priority to be given to capital projects for which they are responsible. I have undertaken to consider whether any projects in Gwynedd for which I am responsible can be accelerated. But the scope for this is limited.

School Inspectors

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish in the Official Report the numbers of Her Majesty's inspectors of schools employed in Wales on a yearly basis between 1974 and the current year.

The following table sets out the required information:

present pupil to teacher ratio in primary and secondary schools for each of the eight Welsh counties.

The information, which relates to September 1979, is as follows: Maintained Primary Schools Clwyd 23.1 Dyfed 18.1 Gwent 22.5 Gwynedd 20.1 Mid-Glamorgan 23.2 Powys 17.9 South Glamorgan 22.7 West Glamorgan 20.8 Wales 21.5 Maintained Secondary Schools Clwyd 17.0 Dyfed 16.8 Gwent 16.1 Gwynedd 16.3 Mid-Glamorgan 16.9 Powys 16.0 South Glamorgan 17.0 West Glamorgan 16.4 Wales 16.6

Schools (Vandalism)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will estimate the amount of damage caused by vandalism to school property in Northern Ireland in each board area in the past year.

Estimates of expenditure in 1979–80 by the five area education and library boards on damage caused by vandalism to school property are as follows: £000 Belfast 169 North-Eastern 54 South-Eastern 83 Southern 35 Western 28 Total 369

Security Forces (Awards)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will list the awards given to the security forces for outstanding duty in Northern Ireland since 1968.

Since 1968 the following awards have been made to the members of the police service in Northern Ireland: For meritorious service Knighthood 4 CBE 3 OBE 15 MBE 59 BEM 71 QPM 24 (Queen's Police Medal) MVO 1 For Gallantry George Medal 8 Queen's Gallantry Medal 62+1 bar BEM 23+1 bar QPM (posthumous) 5 Queen's Commendation for Brave Conduct 47

Awards to the members of Her Majesty's Forces serving in Northern Ireland, including the UDR, are a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence.

Community Service Orders

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) how many people were sentenced to community service orders in 1978 and 1979 in Northern Ireland:

(2) how many people completed community service orders in 1978 and 1979 in Northern Ireland;

(3) how many people served custodial sentences for non-completion of community service orders in 1979 and 1980 in Northern Ireland.

Dog Licences

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he is intending to allow any exemptions from the payment of dog licences under the scheme announced on 14 January.

[ pursuant to his reply, 16 May 1980. c. 684 ]: Yes It .is intended that the proposals, which should be published as a consultative document within the next few months, will include an exemption from licensing in the case of guide dogs for the blind. In addition, people over the age of 65 living alone will be entitled to a half-rate licence, while a concession in the form of a block licence will be available to certain categories of multi-dog owner.

St. Matthew's Redevelopment, Belfast

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the total expenditure for the purchase of all private property which the Housing Executive has acquired to use in redeveloping the St. Matthew's area of Belfast; and if he will list the properties and their respective cost individually.

[ pursuant to his reply 19 May 1980, c. 83 ]: This is a matter for the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, but I understand that the estimated cost of property in the St. Matthew's area acquired by vesting order has been assessed by the district valuer at £2.8 million.

The vested area includes over 950 properties and compensation negotiations have not yet been completed in a number of cases. Listing in the Official Report individual properties and their cost is therefore not a practical proposition.

Belfast Housing (Heating)

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) what in the cost of the project involving the installation of radiators in the dwellings at Northbrook Gardens which had earlier received solid-fuel burners; and how many dwellings are involved in this project;

(2) when work commenced and ended regarding the installation of radiators in the St. James area which was undertaken by the Northern Ireland Housing Executive;

(3) when the project of installing solid-fuel heaters in the St. James area was started and completed; and when the decision was taken to add radiators to the project undertaken by the Northern Ireland Housing Executive;

(4) when the project of installing solid-fuel heaters in the Ulsterville Avenue and Gardens area was started and completed; and what was the total cost of this project undertaken by the Northern Ireland Housing Executive.

[ pursuant to his replies, 19 May 1980, c. 83–84]: These are matters which lie within the day-to-day responsibilities of the Northern Ireland Housing Executive, and I am asking the chairman of the executive to write to the hon. Member.

Quangos

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Boundary Commission for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body,

Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries* Expenses £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … 1,513 — 19 288 805 — 420 1978–79 … … 2,271 — 19 612 1,156 — 503 1977–78 … … 935 — 19 260 570 — 105 1976–77 … … 1,818 — 19 477 634 — 707 1975–76 … … 1,472 — 19 391 578 — 503 * Part-time secretarial services are provided by officials of the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Aberdeen and District

the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The Boundary Commission for Scotland, established under the House of Commons (Redistribution of Seats) Act, comprises a deputy chairman appointed by the Lord President of the Court of Session and two members appointed by the Secretary of State: Mr. Speaker is chairman ex-officio. The members are unpaid and travelling and subsistence expenses are minimal. Part-time secretarial services are provided by departmental officers as part of their normal duties. Expenditure amounted to £41 in 1979–80, and, largely because of the review of constituencies for the European Parliament, to £4,525 in 1978–79. No expenditure was incurred in the three preceding years.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Agricultural Wages Board (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

Milk Marketing Board, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The board is a commercial organisation controlled by milk producers. I am not responsible for its cost or staff. The accounts of the board submitted each year to the annual general meeting are reproduced in the annual report on agricultural marketing schemes laid before Parliament.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were for the latest

Assessor and staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved (Assessor and staff ) Salaries etc.* Expenses £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … … 46,802† Nil 5 40,712† 6,090† 1978–79 … … … … 43,594 Nil 6 37,887 5,707 1977–78 … … … … 39,504 Nil 6 34,403 5,101 1976–77 … … … … 54,298 Nil 7 47,481 6,817 1975–76 … … … … 36,846 Nil 7 32,420 4,426 * Includes Salaries, Wages, Superannuation and pensions † Estimate. The salaries and other expenses of the Assessor and his staff are met entirely by the undertakings which he assesses.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Council on Social Work, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is set out below:

No. of Persons Involved and Expenses £ 1979–80 19 2,379 1978–79 21 1,516 1977–78 22 1,552 1976–77 23 879 1975–76 25 647

Secretarial services are provided by departmental staff in the course of their normal duties. The council does not disburse any money, nor do its members receive any payments other than expenses.

available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Assessor of Public Undertakings (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Committee on Distinction Awards, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The main functions of the United Kingdom Advisory Committee on Distinction Awards are exercised in respect of Scotland by a Scottish Sub-Committee of three; the information given below relates to that Sub-Committee. Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties.

Year Members Expenses £ 1979–80 1,357 1978–79 1,377 1977–78 1,350 1976–77 1,331 1975–76 1,269

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Committee on Community Medicine Establishments (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The only financial costs directly attributable to this committee were the travelling and subsistence expenses of its six members. These are set out in the table below. Secretarial services were provided by Departmental officers in the course of their normal duties. The committee has now been wound up and its function amalgamated with that of the Advisory Committee on Hospital Medical Establishments under the name of the Advisory Committee on Medcial Establishments.

Year Members Expenses £ 1979–80 114 1978–79 60 1977–78 46 1976–77 31 1975–76 31

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Committee on Protection of Birds in Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

Members of the Advisory Committee on the Protection of Birds for Scotland are unpaid but may claim travelling and subsistence expenses and a financial loss allowance at the normal rates. Not all members claim the expenses or allowances to which they are entitled. Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties.

The total expenditure incurred by the advisory committee for the past five financial years was as follows: Year Members Expenses £ 1979–80 1,143 1978–79 669 1977–78 510 1976–77 300 1975–76 100

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Committee on Dental Establishments (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The only financial costs directly attributable to this committee are the travelling and subsistence expenses of its nine members. These are set out in the table below. The secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties.

Year Members Expenses £ 1979–80 81 1978–79 169 1977–78 88 1976–77 84 1975–76 32

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Committee on Hospital Medical Establishments (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The only financial costs directly attributable to this committee are the travelling and subsistence expenses of its members. These are shown in the table below. Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties.

No. Persons Involved Expenses 1979–80 16 £516 1978–79 16 £235 1977–78 16 £180 1976–77 15 £120 1975–76 15 £405

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest

Members Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … … 2,000 — 13 — 2,000 1978–79 … … … … 3,000 — 13 — 3,000 1977–78 … … … … * — 13 — * 1976–77 … … … … * — 13 — * 1975–76 … … … … * — 13 — * * The information on costs and expenses for earlier years is not readily available.

Note: Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Animal Diseases Research Association, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively,

Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries Expenses £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … 1,546,000 — 219 — 130 922,300 10,000 1978–79 … … 1,432,000 — 220 — 100 762,700 8,900 1977–78 … … 1,110,900 — 219 — 80 704,200 8,800 1976–77 … … 1,016,200 — 225 — 60 670,300 5,000 1975–76 … … 1,035,400 — 229 — 50 623,100 4,100

The figures for staff salaries include the salaries of all administrative, scientific and industrial staff employed by the institute.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the appeals tribunals under section 64 of Social Work (Scotland) Act 1948, the amount disbursed by those bodies, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with those bodies, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the bodies by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial

available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Ancient Monuments Board for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Hannah Research Institute, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the

Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries Expenses £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … 1,516,400 — 153 — 100 901,500 15,100 1978–79 … … 1,414,000 — 152 — 100 762,400 15,100 1977–78 … … 1,412,700 — 159 — — 683,300 10,200 1976–77 … … 1,215,400 — 159 — 100 622,000 8,000 1975–76 … … 948,800 — 153 — 200 588,300 7,300

The figures for staff salaries include the salaries of all administrative, scientific and industrial staff employed by the institute.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Hill Farming Research Organisation, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively,

Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries Expenses £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … 1,348,800 — 126 — 3,700 712,100 44,000 1978–79 … … 1,113,400 — 134 — 2,700 605,300 31,500 1977–78 … … 943,100 — 134 — 2,900 541,800 30,900 1976–77 … … 921,100 — 130 — 2,000 499,500 22,200 1975–76 … … 788,800 — 128 — 2,700 450,800 16,100 The figures for staff salaries include the salaries of all administrative, scientific and industrial staff employed by the insititute.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Hill Farming Advisory Committee for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, Members Year Total finiancial costs Amount disbursed Number of members Salaries or equivalent Expenses £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … … 1,039 Nil 13 Nil 1,039 1978–79 … … … … 1,704 Nil 13 Nil 1,704 1977–78 … … … … 318 Nil 13 Nil 318 1976–77 … … … … 264 Nil 13 Nil 264 1975–76 … … … … 138 Nil 13 Nil 138

Part-time secretarial services are provided by the Department of Agriculture and Fisheries for Scotland as part of its normal duties.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration,

figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

of the Historic Buildings Council for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above

Members Year Total financial costs Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … 1,985 12 1,355 630 1978–79 … … … 1,046 12 750 296 1977–78 … … … 1,217 12 750 467 1976–77 … … … 1,500 12 750 750 1975–76 … … … 1,200 12 750 450

Notes:

Disbursements are made by the Secretary of State after advice from the Council.

Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Highlands and Islands Development Consultative Council, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment

Members Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved* Salaries or equivalent Expenses £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … … 7,694 — 44 — 7,694 1978–79 … … … … 7,281 — 43 — 7,281 1977–78 … … … … 4,579 — 44 — 4,579 1976–77 … … … … 3,926 — 41 — 3,926 1975–76 … … … … 3,145 — 39 — 3,145 * Members of the Council who meet four times a year.

Secretarial services are provided by officials of the Highlands and Islands Development Board in the course of their normal duties.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Fire Services Examinations Board (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively,

Members Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved* Salaries or equivalent Expenses £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … … 5,785 — 16 — 619 1978–79 … … … … 5,884 — 16 — 54 1977–78 … … … … 2,896 — 16 — 199 1976–77 … … … … 2,869 — 16 — 339 1975–76 … … … … 2,744 — 16 — 350

The total financial costs shown in the first column include the expenditure incurred in holding the fire service examinations.

categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the East of Scotland Agricultural College, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount

Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries Expenses £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80. … … 3,328,757 — 401 — 1,993 2,174,044 220,503 1978–79 … … 2,849,715 — 399 — 1,272 1,876,663 186,552 1977–78 … … 2,712,119 — 400 — 1,606 1,702,911 158,465 1976–77 … … 2,445,209 — 400 — 1,104 1,606,743 131,996 1975–76 … … 2,081,562 — 398 — 974 1,535,765 110,349

The figures for staff salaries include the salaries of all administrative, professional and industrial staff employed by the college.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Extra Parliamentary Panel, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

I refer to the reply which my hon. Friend gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Carlton (Mr. Holland) on 15 May 1980.—[Vol. 984, c. 606.] As he explained there, the panel is merely a list of persons whose services may be called on in the circumstances specified: it has no staff and no expenditure.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Advisory Panel of Economic Consultants to Secretary of State for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The Advisory Panel of Economic Consultants does not disburse any funds. It currently has 10 members and meets three or four times each year with four or five members being invited on each occasion. Prior to 1977–78 two members received honoraria; remuneration is now by fee, presently at the rate of £40 per meeting attended, plus travel and subsistence expenses where appropriate. Over the period in question, these costs were as follows: £ 1979–80 458 1978–79 305 1977–78 419 1976–77 500 1975–76 560

Payments prior to 1977–78 relate to fees only since travel and subsistence payments for this period cannot readily be extracted.

A number of staff are involved in servicing the Economic Consultants as part of wider duties, and it is not possible to quantify the relevant staff time or costs.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the electricity consultative councils, Scotland, the amount disbursed by these bodies, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with those bodies, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of those bodies by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each year of the past five years, respectively.

Each of the two electricity consultative councils in Scotland has a part-time salaried chairman and 30 part-time unpaid members. In addition, the Electricity Consultative Council for the South of Scotland district has nine local committees and the Electricity Consultative

Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries Expenses £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … 115,699 — 8 8,295 15,861 54,584 6,853 1978–79 … … 96,924 — 8 4,725 11,731 47,505 5,929 1977–78 … … 86,113 — 8 4,200 13,305 38,342 6,191 1976–77 … … 83,675 — 7 4,200 12,919 31,363 8,197 * Chairmen only

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Dumping at Sea Act, Representations Panel, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment, for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

None. I refer my hon. Friend to the answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Carlton (Mr. Holland) on Thursday 15 May 1980.—[Vol. 984, c. 606.]

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Committee of Investigation for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment, for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The committee has not incurred any expenditure in any of the past five years.

Council for the North of Scotland District has five area committees, with 145 part-time unpaid members in total.

The other information requested is set out in the table below. Comparable figures are not available for 1975–76, during part of which the Scottish electricity boards had financial responsibility for the operations of the consultative councils.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Consumers Committee for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment, for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The committee has incurred no expenditure since 1975–76. The information for 1974–75 and 1975–76, in so far as it is available, is as follows: 1974–75 Total financial costs £62 Amount disbursed by the Committee Nil Number of members involved 7 Members' salaries Nil Members' expenses. £62 1975–76 Total financial costs £468 Amount disbursed by the Committee Nil Number of members involved 7 Members' salaries Nil Members' expenses £335

The 1975–76 expenditure includes witnesses' travel, etc, costs but no allocation of the salaries and expenses of the two officials who carried out the administrative and secretarial duties was made.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Consultative Committee on Freshwater Trout and Fishing in Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the

Members Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … … 375.20 Nil 15 Nil 375.20 1978–79 … … … … 343.26 Nil 16 Nil 343.26 1977–78 … … … … 380.22 Nil 16 Nil 380.22

Note: The committee was set up in 1977. The secretarial support and advice to the committee as necessary (including attendance at meetings) is provided by DAFS officials as part of their normal duties.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Central Advisory Committee on Justices of the Peace (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past fixe years, respectively.

The members of the Central Advisory Committee are unpaid. Secretarial assistance for the committee is provided by the three members of the staff of the office of the Secretary of Commissions for Scotland as an integral part of their duties and has not been separately costed. The following are the total amounts paid by the Scottish Office in each of the last five years in respect of ( a ) expenses of members and ( b ) other expenses incidental to meetings: Financial year Members' expenses Other expenses Total £ £ £ 1979–80 17.97 30.10 48.07 1978–79 85.90 39.89 125.79 1977–78 46.19 56.19 102.38 1976–77 29.10 36.00 65.10 1975–76 14.28 19.30 33.58

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Careers Service Advisory Council for Scotland, the amount disbursed by

body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The Careers Service Advisory Council for Scotland does not disburse any funds. During its first term of office, which came to an end in September 1979, it had 21 members. Appointments to the council are unpaid but members may claim travelling and subsistence expenses. The costs during the life of the council have been as follows— 1979–80 £489 1978–79 £1117 1977–78 £500 1976–77 £319

The council is serviced by staff of my Department as part of wider duties.

I am at present considering the reconstitution of the council.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month-period. the total financial costs, including administration, of the Consultative Committee on Curriculum (Scotland), the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years,, respectively.

The available information is as follows: Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries Expenses Total costs of SCDS £ £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … 613,150 3,490 About 520 Nil 64,810 153,000 400 394,940 1978–79 … — 2,040 — Nil 40,430 — — 394,600 1977–78 … — 2,310 — Nil 37,460 — — 238,570 1976–77 … — 2,170 — Nil 26,230 — — 182,100 1975–76 … — Nil — Nil — — — 152,600

Notes:

1. The sums disbursed cover the expenses of the Scottish Computer Education Group which receives financial support from the CCC.

2. The persons involved inculde members of the CCC and of its substructure of committees (all of whom serve on a part-time basis); Departmental officials employed full-time in the CCC secretariat; and full and part-time staff of the Scottish Curriculum Development Service (SCDS). Corresponding figures cannot be given for previous years because no record was kept centrally of members of all committees.

3. Members' expenses relate to staff members of the CCC and its substructure apart from Departmental staff members. The expenses of members for the years 1975–76 and 1974–75 are not available.

4. Salaries and expenses of the secretariat can be estimated only for 1979–80, the first complete year after the setting up of the secretarial as a separate unit. Until June 1978, secretarial service were provided by Departmental staff on a part-time basis.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month-period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Central Midwives Board for Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The Central Midwives Board for Scotland has a membership of sixteen including the chairman. Members receive travel and subsistence expenses but no salary. The board has a staff of six.

The figures for total expenditure, the salaries of staff, and the expenses paid to members and staff are given below. Year Total expenditure Staff-salaries Expenses of members and staff £ £ £ 1979 46,958 34,000 3,968 1978 39,516 30,200 3,675 1977 36,217 27,700 3,578 1976 30,899 26,600 2,077 1975 32,000 26,000 1,890

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month-period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Council for the Education and Training of Health Visitors Advisory Committee, the amount disbursed by that body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The Scottish Advisory Committee to the Council for the Education and Training of Health Visitors has a membership of 13 including the chairman. Members receive travel and subsistence expenses but no salary. Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in the course of their normal duties. No amounts are disbursed by the committee. The figures for the expenses of members are given below.

Year Members' Expenses £ 1979 312 1978 369 1977 326 1976 253 1975 354

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Committee for Clinical Nursing Studies, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The Committee for Clinical Nursing Studies has nine members, including the Chairman. Members receive travel and subsistence expenses but no salary. The Committee has a staff of one whole-time and two part-time officers. No amounts are disbursed by the Committee. The figures for total expenditure, the salaries of staff and the

Number of persons involved Members secretaries and administration staff Year Total financial costs including administration and disbursements Members Staff-administration including Secretarial and audit Salaries Expenses Salaries Expenses £ £ £ £ £ 1978–79 … 1,238,815 10 40 7,982 2,682 24,191 67 1977–78 … 809,425 10 33 7,070 1,551 18,052 43 1976–77 … 567,550 9 26 7,388 1,788 14,794 53 1975–76 … 699,920 10 21 6,987 748 9,142 62

The commission was established in September 1974 under the provisions of the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973 and became functional on local government reorganisation on 16 May 1975. Expenditure incurred in 1974–75was minimal.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information, which relates to the operation of the board throughout Great Britain is published in

expenses of members and staff are given below: Year Total expenditure Staff salaries Members' and staff expenses £ £ £ 1979–80 21,573 14,491 1,842 1978–79 19,031 13,065 2,425 1977–78 21,407 11,363 2,377 1976–77 11,310 11,033 1,402 1975–76 12,660 6,773 1,200

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Commission for Local Authority Accounts in Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

The information is as follows:

the annual reports of the board which are in the Library of the House. It is not possible to distinguish the expenses of members and staff. The Report for 1979–80 will be published later this year.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the Building Standards Advisory Committee, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

Members Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons in volved Salaries or equivalent Expenses £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … … … 432 Nil 15* Nil 432 1978–79 … … … … 219 Nil 15* Nil 219 1977–78 … … … … 269 Nil 15* Nil 269 1976–77 … … … … 428 Nil 15* Nil 428 1975–76 … … … … 109 Nil 15* Nil 109 * Part-time.

Secretarial services are provided by departmental officers in course of their normal duties.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will give, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the National Galleries of Scotland, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons, including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the

Members Staff Year Total financial costs Amount disbursed Number of persons involved* Salaries or equivalent Expenses Salaries Expenses £ £ £ £ £ £ 1979–80 … … 2,175,010 Nil 142 Nil 1,645 709,988 13,538 1978–79 … … 1,764,359 Nil 139 Nil 1,405 585,158 11,820 1977–78 … … 1,674,922 Nil 133 Nil 1,258 495,315 8,098 1976–77 … … 1,552,516 Nil 132 Nil 1,061 451,543 6,482 1975–76 … … 1,102,316 Nil 132 Nil 2,641 417,071 7,807 1974–75 … … 1,180,586 Nil 123 Nil 544 307,540 2,048 * Including seven members of the board of trustees, full-time staff and the full-time equivalent of part-time staff. † Includes purchase grant.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish, for the latest available 12-month period, the total financial costs, including administration, of the National Institute for Agricultural Engineering, the amount disbursed by that body, the number of persons including secretaries, involved with the body, the amount of payment for, respectively, members of the body by way of salary NATIONAL INSTITUTE FOR AGRICULTURAL ENGINEERING (SILSOE, NEAR BEDFORD) £000s Expenditure ( actual expenditure ) 1975–76 1976–77 1977–78 1978–79 1979–80 1. Total expenditure 1,950 2,140 2,362 2,554 2,868 2. Total salaries 1,560 1,704 1,806 1,905 2,089 3. Total administration 128 142 151 177 188 4. Total salaries of administrative staff (excluding secretarial salaries) 118 131 138 153 169 5. Total secretarial salaries 18 20 21 23 25 Staff ( in post at end of financial year ) 1975–76 1976–77 1977–78 1978–79 1979–80 1. Total staff 418 436 425 419 421 2. Total administrative staff 41 40 43 41 39

The information is as follows:

body by way of salary or equivalent, expenses of members, and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

[ pursuant to his reply, 16 May 1980, c. 717]: The following is the information:

or equivalent, expenses of members, and secretarial salaries and expenses; and what were the figures in all the above categories in each of the past five years, respectively.

I have been asked to reply.

The information is as follows:

Members of the governing body of the institute are reimbursed in respect of travelling and subsistence expenses—total cost approximately £2,000 per annum—but do not receive salaries or honoraria. Secretarial support for the governing body is undertaken by the institute's administration department. The expenses of secretaries employed by the institute cannot be separately identified, but are included in line 3 of the first table above.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what were the percentage increases in unemployment in East Aberdeenshire for the years 1977, 1978, 1979, and the first quarter of 1980.

The information is not available in the precise form requested. The table below shows the percentage changes in unemployment in the combined Fraserburgh and Peterhead employment office areas which cover most of the East Aberdeenshire constituency.

Vacancies notified at Sector Numbers registered as unemployed in Dundee Employment Office Careers Office Primary … … … … … 235 — — Manufacturing … … … … … 2,928 144 1 Construction … … … … … 1,263 28 — Services … … … … … 3,454 329 5

Note: Because of possible duplication between vacancy figures for the employment office and the careers office, the two sets of figures should not be added together.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table for both Dundee and Scotland showing the unemployment rate each month since May 1979, taking the May 1979 rate as equal to 100.

The information is set out in the table below.

Month Dundee Scotland 1979— May. 100 100 June 111 110 July 112 112 August 11 112 September 107 107 October 105 107 November 106 108 December 102 108 1980— January 115 122 February 118 123 March 114 121 April 114 121 Figures are not seasonally adjusted.

Period and Percentage change in total unemployment (+ or -) January 1977–78 +42.8 January 1978–79 +3.0 January 1979–80 +7.8 January-March 1980 -6.8

The figures are not seasonally adjusted.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many of those currently unemployed in Dundee are registered as unemployed in each of the following sectors ( a ) primary, ( b ) manufacturing, ( c ) construction, and ( d ) services; and what is the corresponding number of registered vacancies in each sector.

The following table gives the number of people registered as unemployed in Dundee in each of the sectors on 14 February 1980 and the number of vacancies notified to the employment office and careers office and remaining unfilled on 8 February, the latest dates for which the information requested is available:

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what percentage of those currenly unemployed in Dundee and Scotland have been out of work for over a year.

On 10 April, the latest date for which the information is available, 26.3 per cent. of those registered as unemployed in Dundee had been out of work for over a year. The comparable figure for Scotland was 23.3 per cent.

Building Trade Craftsmen

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many building trade craftsmen are unemployed in Dundee; and if he will give a breakdown per craft.

The following table gives the numbers of unemployed people, last employed in the construction

industry, who on 10 April 1980 were registered at the employment office in Dundee for work in each of the building trades listed: Carpenters and joiners 74 Electricians 41 Cable jointers and linesmen 25 Heating and ventilation engineering fitters 2 Plumbers, pipe fitters and gas fitters 24 Metal scaffolders 13 Other steel erectors, riggers and cable splicers 9 Painters and decorators 25 Bricklayers, masons and stone setters 71 Plasterers 10 Terazzo workers and tile setters 3 Roofers. 23 Glaziers — General builders — Pipe layers and jointers 2 Site work concreters — Earth moving and civil engineering equipment operators 5 Crane, hoist and other materials handling equipment operators 16

Blind Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the number of blind and partially-sighted persons in Scotland; and how many of those are registered with local authorities or with voluntary organisations acting on their behalf.

Local authorities have a duty under the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act 1970, as extended to Scotland by the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons (Scotland) Act 1972, to inform themselves of the number of chronically sick or disabled persons, who are persons in need, including those blind and partially-sighted, within their area. From information provided to my Department by local authorities and voluntary organisations acting as their agents, the numbers of blind and partially-sighted people who were in contact with local authorities and voluntary organisations at 31 March 1978, the latest date for which information is available, were 10,621 and 2,638 respectively.

Redundancies (Dundee)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many redundancies in Dundee have been notified to the Manpower Services Commission in each month since May 1979.

I am informed that the number of redundancies notified to the Manpower Services Commission as

likely to have occurred in Dundee since 1 May 1979 was as follows: Month Employees May 1979 29 June 63 July 59 August 71 September 127 October 38 November 43 December 87 January 1980 230 February 109 March 346 April 164 Total 1,372

NOTE 1: Figures for March and April 1980 are provisional to take account of late notifications.

NOTE 2: The figures for the period May to October 1979 differ slightly from those given in my reply to the hon. Member on 6 November— [Vol. 973, c. 134]—because they take into account information which has since become available about the timing of redundancies during that period.

Teachers (Salaries)

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will set up an independent body to study the structure of teachers' salaries in Scotland in view of the present unsatisfactory situation.

No. This should be left to the normal negotiating procedures.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what erosion of teachers' salaries has taken place in Scotland over the last five years in comparison with the Civil Service salary scales.

It is not practicable to make detailed comparison between movements in the complex pay scales of teachers and those of other particular groups of workers. In the reference of teachers to the Standing Commission on pay comparability, however, the commission was asked to have general regard inter alia to the movement of inflation and salary levels.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he proposes to meet the convention of local authorities in Scotland to discuss the question of teachers' salaries arising out of the Clegg report.

No. This is a matter for the Scottish teachers salaries committee.

Community Service Orders

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people were sentenced to community service orders in 1978 and 1979 in Scotland.

The information requested is as follows: Year Number of community service orders 1978 279 1979 433

The 1979 figure is provisional.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people completed community service orders in 1978 and 1979 in Scotland.

In 1978, 78 people completed community service orders and in 1979, 156.

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people served custodial sentences for non-completion of community service orders in 1979 and 1980 in Scotland.

In 1979, 29 people received custodial sentences having not satisfactorily completed community service orders. Data for 1980 are not yet available.

St. Enoch Station, Glasgow

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether any Government funds have been made available to the Scottish Development Agency for the proposed shopping and housing area at St. Enoch Station, Glasgow; and if he will make a statement.

I welcome the proposals for revitalising the St. Enoch area of Glasgow through a partnership of private sector and public sector resources as announced by the Scottish Development Agency last week. Any direct funding by the agency for this project should be available from within its present allocated resources.