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Written Answers

Volume 985: debated on Thursday 5 June 1980

TUC

asked the Prime Minister when next she plans to meet the leaders of the Trades Union Congress.

PRIME MINISTER (ENGAGEMENTS)

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official invitations for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Thursday 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 5 June.

I refer my hon. Friends and hon. Members to die reply which I gave earlier today to the hon. Member for Derby, North (Mr. Whitehead).

FAMILY POLICY REVIEW

asked the Prime Minister if she will prepare and publish a family policy review showing how the family life-cycle is taken into account in social, economic, and tax policy.

I do not consider that the publication of such a document would be a useful exercise. Our present policies take full account of our concern for families, within the resources which are available.

MACCLESFBELD

asked the Prime Minister if she will pay an official visit to Macclesfield.

EUROPEAN COMMUNITY BUDGET (UNITED KINGDOM CONTRIBUTION)

asked the Prime Minister whether she intends to insist that the question of the United Kingdom budgetary contribution should be discussed at the forthcoming European Council in Venice, unless previously resolved.

asked the Prime Minister whether the agreement for limiting the United Kingdom budget contribution to the European Economic Community lapses in the event of New Zealand not agreeing to limit exports of sheepmeat to the United Kingdom.

No. The negotiation of satisfactory arrangements with New Zealand as a condition of the entry into force of the sheepmeat regime is an integral part of the settlement on sheepmeat and one which all member States have accepted. There is thus no link between the budget settlement and the outcome of negotiations with New Zealand.

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied that her undertaking that there would be no package deal to resolve the problem of United Kingdom EEC budget contributions has been fulfilled by the agreement announced in statements to the House on 2 June by the Lord Privy Seal and the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food.

I am satisfied that the proposals which were announced in the House on 2 June represent an advantageous outcome for the United Kingdom.

asked the Prime Minister whether the 25 per cent, excess payment can be triggered by the portion of 1 per cent, value added tax paid to the Community and not just the level of United Kingdom imports.

The risk-sharing arrangement agreed at the Foreign Affairs Council on 30 May applies to the size of our net, not our gross, contribution.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will tabulate for each EEC country for each of the years 1980, 1981 and 1982 the predicted financial outturns subsequent to the Brussels proposals with regard to ( a ) net budget contributions and receipts, ( b ) the cost of common agricultural policy food and feed prices over world prices to the consumers of each country, ( c ) the value of common agricultural policy benefits to the producers of each country, ( d ) the extra cost of food in ( b ) above less the benefits to producers in ( c ) above, ( e ) the sum of ( a ) above budget contribution plus ( d ) above—the net benefit or disadvantage of the common agricultural policy—and ( f ) the value, positive or negative, of ( e ) above per head of the population.

The Commission has not prepared detailed estimates of this kind. It would not in any case be possible to predict the level of future world food prices on which answers to sections ( b ), ( c ), ( d ), ( e ) and ( f ) of the question would depend.

asked the Prime Minister what is covered by the term " structural changes " used in paragraph 7 of the text of the agreement reached in Brussels on the United Kingdom contribution to the European Economic Community budget; and what is the Commission mandate referred to in that paragraph.

The term " structural changes " refers to the expected outcome of a radical review of Community policies, the pattern of Community expenditure and the operation of the budget. The Council of Ministers has given the Commission a mandate to bring forward proposals by the middle of 1981.

asked the Prime Minister what are the basic principles of the common agricultural policy referred to in paragraph 7 of the text of the agreed solution to the United Kingdom's budgetary contribution.

The basic principles of the common agricultural policy are those set out in article 39 of the Treaty, namely, increases in agricultural productivity leading to a fair standard of living for the agricultural community; stable markets; assured supplies and reasonable prices for consumers.

asked the Prime Minister when the proposed refund of the United Kingdom's contribution to the EEC budget will be paid; in what form the payment will occur; and if she will make a statement.

We expect the bulk of what is due for 1980 to be paid before the end of the 1980–81 financial year. Similar arrangements should apply to subsequent years. The payment will be made under an improved version of the existing Community financial mechanism, and a new Community regulation providing for increased Community expenditure in the United Kingdom.

HEATON MERSEY

asked the Prime Minister if she will pay an official visit to Heaton Mersey.

CIVIL SERVANTS (TRANSPORT)

asked the Prime Minister if she will issue a supplementary instruction to the Boyle committee when next reviewing the salaries of top civil servants to take account of the privilege of a chaffeur-driven car to and from their offices and railway stations when going to and from their homes, which is enjoyed by the 12 top-paid civil servants; and whether she will recommend a reduction of these civil servants' salaries by £1,000 per annum as these journeys are arranged on a non-payment, non-taxed basis.

MINERAL INTERNATIONALISATION (REPORTS)

asked the Prime Minister whether she will arrange for a study to

be made of the recommendations of the Phillips report, 1918 Cmnd. 9184, the Betterson report, 1920, Cmnd. 652, and the Westwood report, 1949, Cmnd. 7732, concerning departmental responsibility for minerals and for their internationalisation.

I am not aware of any problems caused by the existing departmental arrangements, but if my hon. Friend has a particular point in mind I should be glad to consider it.

COMMUNICATIONS (INTERCEPTION)

asked the Prime Minister who is to be appointed to monitor the interception of communications.

With the agreement of the Lord Chancellor, I have appointed the Right Hon. Lord Diplock, a Lord of Appeal in Ordinary, and chairman of the Security Commission, to carry out this task. As the Home Secretary announced in the House of Commons on 1 April, his terms of reference will be To review on a continuing basis the purposes, procedures, conditions and safeguards governing the interception of communications on behalf of the police, H.M. Customs and Excise and the Security Service as set out in Cmnd. 7873; and to report to the Prime Minister.

COMMON AGRICULTURAL POLICY

asked the Prime Minister, excluding budget contributions and the financial effects of the common agricultural policy, whether any EEC country receives less benefit from EEC membership than the United Kingdom.

It is not possible to quantify accurately the overall economic advantages for us or any other member States. For instance, we have no way of knowing what our trade pattern would now be had we not joined the Community. But economic benefits include a domestic market of 250 million, and a strengthened position in international economic negotiations. The political advantages of membership of the EEC are substantial and shared by all member States.

Ukranian Exiles

asked the Lord Privy Seal what contacts he has had, whether on a regular or ad hoc basis, with Ukranian exiles in the United Kingdom.

We are not aware that any recent exiles or members of the Ukranian community in the United Kingdom have approached the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

New Hebrides

asked the Lord Privy Seal when now he expects to be able to announce the date for independence for the New Hebrides.

I refer the hon. Member to the statement I made on 3 June in which I announced that Britain and France now accepted 30 July as the date of independence.—[Vol. 985, c. 1247.]

Oman

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he has any plans to visit Oman in the near future; and, if so, if he will seek to have discussions about the possibility of British forces being stationed in Oman.

My right hon. Friend has no firm plans to visit Oman in the near future, though he hopes to do so before long.

There are no plans for British troops to be stationed permanently in Oman. We continue to provide loan service personnel for the Omani armed forces and to arrange joint exercises from time to time.

Steel Industry

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the grand total of subsidies, grants and loans that have been given to the steel industry since it was renationalised; and what has been the grand total of losses or profits that the steel industry has returned in each year since it was renationalised.

Derelict Land Clearance Area (Manchester)

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make a statement in regard to the document submitted by Manchester city council on 14 January relating to Manchester's applications to be declared a derelict land clearance area.

Urenco

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if, in his discussions with the Dutch Government on joint policy following the Khan incident, he will ascertain what measures have been taken to prevent as far as possible contraventions of the Netherlands Decree of the Export of Strategic Goods 1963 (Bulletin of Acts, Orders and Decrees 128) as referred to in the report to the Committees of the Second Chamber of the Netherlands States General, paragraph 4(c).

I understand that the Netherlands Government are preparing a new list of nuclear items, which will replace items 0101 to 0141 of the Netherlands Export of Strategic Goods Decree. They also intend to add a new item 2000 covering printed matter and other documents dealing with technology of listed items.

I understand that the Netherlands Government expect to finalise these changes by the end of June 1980.

Anthracite

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is the price differential between United Kingdom anthracite and that purchased from abroad; and what is the total cost of imported supplies.

Precise figures of the costs of imported anthracite are not available, but I understand that they are of the order of £10 to £20 per tonne more than for comparable qualities produced in the United Kingdom. The cif cost of imports in 1979–80, according to Customs and Excise returns, was approximately £14 million.

Opencast Coal Production

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what has been the level of opencast coal production for the years 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979 and 1980.

Information on opencast coal production is published monthly in the Department's Energy Trends , copies of which are available in the Library of the House. For convenience, the information requested, including the latest available information for 1980, is given below:

Opencast coal production, United Kingdom thousand tonnes 1976 11,944 1977 13,551 1978 14,167 1979 12,862 1980 January—April 4,561

For comparison purposes, production in January—April 1979 was 3,971thousand tonnes.

Departmental Staff

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if any of the 145 staff savings in his Department announced on 6 December 1979 have yet been made; and, if not, when he expects them to be achieved and in what divisions, at what grades, and in which geographical regions.

Staff in post on 1 April 1979 numbered 1,267 compared with a current figure of about 1,255. This represents a saving of some 30 or so staff across the Department as a whole offset by an increase of about 20 to meet the Department's expanding work load in connection with the development and monitoring of the United Kingdom's offshore oil and gas reserves. The detailed disposition of the 145 staff savings announced on 6 December 1979, a proportion of which is reflected in the foregoing figures, has not yet been finally determined, but all the reductions are planned to be implemented by or before 1 April 1982. The reductions will be partially offset by the provision of up to 35 extra staff in the Department's petroleum engineering division, and, in particular, by an increase in the division's complement of petroleum specialists grades.

Senior Administrative Posts

asked the right hon. Member for Middlesborough, as representing the House of Commons Commission what senior administrative posts are held in the House by those who have been active lay trade unionists or full-time trade union officials.

This information is not available, it not being the practice to inquire into the trade union—or non-trade union—background of persons appointed to senior administra-trative posts in the House.

asked the right hon. Member for Middlesborough, as representing the House of Commons Commission, if he will list the senior positions held in the House by non-career officials who have previously served elsewhere; and what are their individual backgrounds.

A large number of senior posts in the House are held by persons who have previously served elsewhere. If the hon. Member has any particular category of posts in mind, I will be glad to give him any information he requires, subject always to the Commission's rule that it is not prepared to answer questions dealing with individual members of the staff of the House.

Aldershot Army Display

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much his Department has spent on the franking of mail by the Post Office advertising the Alder-shot Army display as the greatest free show in the country; and if the public will be allowed to all displays and exhibitions held at Aldershot on the advertised dates of the last Friday, Saturday and Sunday in June.

A franked advertisement for the Aldershot Army display appeared for two-week periods on mail posted in three centres, Reading, Brighton and Birmingham, at a cost to the Ministry of Defence of £161. The Aldershot Army display is a very popular, biennial event which attracts crowds in excess of 300,000 and is very helpful to recruiting. This year it will be held on Friday 27, Saturday 28 and Sunday 29 June.

Immigration

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to improve the operation of the immigration system, in the light of the adjudicator's decision that the immigration officer in the case of Edith, Baroness von Thungen-Reichenbach did not act in accordance with the law or the immigration rules and should have exercised his discretion differently.

All decisions by adjudicators and by the Immigration Appeal Tribunal are studied carefully. This decision which we are considering seems to turn on an assessment of the particular circumstances of the individual case rather than general issues.

Citizens Band Radio

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many prosecutions there have been so far in the current year for use of citizens band radio.

Between 1 January and 30 April this year, 94 persons were proceeded against for unlicensed installation or use of 27 MHz equipment. 93 were convicted and one acquitted.

British Broadcasting Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further representations he has received relating to the current level of income for the British Broadcasting Corporation; and if he will make a statement.

In recent weeks I have met a deputation of representatives of the unions at the BBC and received correspondence from a number of other sources, including the general advisory council of the BBC and the TUC economic committee. I am satisfied that the increases in the television licence fees which I announced on 23 November 1979 were

fair both to the BBC and to the licence payers.

Vagrancy Act 1824

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to publish the Government's response to the report of the Select Committee on Home Affairs on the operation of the Vagrancy Act 1824; and if he will make a statement.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now seek to repeal the Vagrancy Act 1824.

I invite the hon. Members to wait and hear what my right hon. Friend and I have to say in this afternoon's debate.

Tobacco Sales (Juveniles)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will issue guidance to chief officers of police on prosecution policy in connection with the sale of cigarettes and tobacco to juveniles.

It would not be appropriate for us to issue guidance on prosecution policy to chief officers of police, who are well aware of the law relating to the sale of cigarettes and tobacco to juveniles.

Young People (Relations with Police)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what recent discussions he has had with the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis on the subject of relations between the police and young people.

I discuss a wide range of topics with the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis, and I know he attaches great importance to maintaining good relations between the police and young people.

Marches (Public Order)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what further representations he has received regarding the danger to public order from marches organised by ultra Right-wing and racialist organisations.

I have received a number of representations on this and on other aspects of the problem of disorder in the context of the Government's review of the Public Order Act 1936 and related legislation.

Police Duties

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to relieve the police of some of their less essential duties so that they may return to the beat and perform their main task of protecting law-abiding citizens and their property.

It is for each chief officer of police to decide priorities for his force, and the best methods to be used in the particular areas covered by the force. But we shall certainly support all steps to ensure that police officers are used to best effect on the specific duties for which they have been trained.

Press Council

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to establish a Press Council with formal statutory responsibilities, applying to radio and television as well as to the press.

Police Complaints Procedure

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on his current review of the police complaints procedure.

As I stated in my reply to a question by the hon. Member on 6 May, I have received the Police Complaints Board's first triennial review report and I am carefully considering what it says. I have at present nothing to add to that reply.

Terrorist Attacks (London)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what analysis he has had conducted of the origins of the weapons used in recent terrorist attacks in London.

The weapons used in recent terrorist attacks are still the subject of investigation by the police.

Metropolitan Police

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will take steps to increase the establishment of the Metropolitan Police force.

The Metropolitan Police is making good progress towards reaching its present establishment, but the deficiency is still too great for an increase to be justified.

Drug Trafficking

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will review the provision of resources allocated to the detection of drug trafficking.

The resources allocated to the detection of drug trafficking are kept under review, both by chief officers of police and by the board of Her Majesty's Customs and Excise. Recent major drugs seizures have demonstrated the effectiveness of the efforts that are made in this field, as well as the need for continued vigilance.

Recidivism Rates

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the current recidivism rate among ex-prisoners.

No true recidivism rate can be given since the number of ex-prisoners who commit further crimes, as distinct from the number reconvicted, is unknown. About 55 per cent, of those discharged in 1975 from prison sentences exceeding three months were reconvicted within two years of discharge.

Bailed Persons (Offences)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many offenders have committed offences whilst on bail during the last 12 months.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply I gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Kingswood (Mr. Aspinwall) on 2 April.–[Vol. 982, c. 225.].

Mentally Disordered Prisoners

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he proposes further steps to transfer mentally disordered prisoners to hospitals.

For the present, we have nothing to add to the statement which my right hon. Friend made to the House on 30 April 1980.

Licensing Hours

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received from the National Licensed Victuallers Association about possible alterations in the licensing hours; and if he will make a statement.

I refer my hon. Friend to the reply my right hon. Friend gave to a question by my hon. Friend the Member for Essex, South-East (Sir B. Braine) on 3 June 1980.

Shotgun Licences

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received regarding his proposals for raising the fees for licences for shotguns.

Since 6 March, approximately 400 letters have been received from the public and hon. Members about the fees chargeable under the Firearms Act 1968.

Prison Officers (Surplus Housing)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many sales have so far been arranged of prison officers surplus houses on the Isle of Wight; what is the average price obtained; and how many more properties are to be put on the market for sale.

Two sales have been agreed and negotiations are well advanced on a further nine. 32 houses are still with local estate agents. No sale money has yet been received. It is estimated that 10 more properties may be put on the market in the next two years.

Parliamentary Boundary Commission (Greenwich)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects the Parliamentary Boundary Commission to arrange a public inquiry into the reactions to its proposals for parliamentary constituencies in the London borough of Greenwich.

It is for the Parliamentary Boundary Commission to decide when to arrange a public inquiry into its proposals.

Prisoners (Parole and Day Release)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action he has taken, and when, as a result of the recommendations of the Butler committee report on action to be taken to protect the public from possible attacks by prisoners let out on parole and day release from places such as Broadmoor; when his action will be completed; and whether he will make a statement.

If the hon. Member would let me know which of the report's 140 recommendations he has in mind we will do our best to provide the information for which he has asked.

Criminal Injuries Compensation Board

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the current backlog of cases being dealt with by the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board; what is the average time spent on each case in the past 12 months; and if he will take steps to enable cases to be dealt with more rapidly.

On 30 April 1980 there were 26,599 cases at various stages of consideration. Complete statistics are not yet available for 1979–80, but in 1978–79 3.5 per cent, of cases were resolved in fewer than three months, 29 per cent in three to six months, 37.3 per cent, in six to nine months, 17.4 per cent, in nine to 12 months and 12.8 per cent, took more than 12 months.

Additional temporary staff have been provided to help reduce the accumulated arrears of unresolved cases, but the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board has to operate within cash limits, which will involve staff reductions. We are afraid, therefore, that we cannot undertake to eliminate delays.

Casinos

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will introduce legislation to enable local authorities to operate casinos.

Government Policy

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will make a statement on the results of his Department, after 13 months of the present Government, in achieving the policy programme which he set it on assuming office.

We have followed a policy of upholding and reinforcing the rule of law, giving a very high priority to the services which are responsible for the protection of the public, and preserving the liberty of the subject.

Immediately on taking office, we fulfilled our pledge to implement the recommendations of the Edmund-Davies, committee, and the police service, which stood at 114,857 for the whole of England and Wales at the end of April 1979, has since grown by well over 3,000 to over 118,000. The Police Negotiating Board Act received the Royal Assent in March. With my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Scotland, we have set in hand a review of the law relating to public order, and published a Green Paper in April. We have renewed for a further year the legislation for the prevention of terrorism connected with Northern Irish affairs, and with my right hon. and noble Friend the Foreign and Commonwealth Secretary have taken active steps to deal with problems of terrorism in this country of overseas origin. The Government have recently signed the agreement applying the European convention on the suppression of terrorism among the Nine.

We have introduced tougher regimes in certain detention centres; 16 new junior attendance centres have been opened and at least eight more—including five more senior centres—are on the way. We have accepted and given effect to the recommendations on pay and allowances of the May committee on the prison service, and I announced on 30 April a major reorganisation of the prison service based on that report; as the next step, we are setting in motion reviews of the design of prison regimes, attendance systems and associated conditions of service, procedures for handling industrial relations, training and other proposals to which the report refers.

The immigration rules have been comprehensively revised; the new rules came into force on 1 March. A White Paper on nationality will be published this summer.

We have continued to work towards our objectives of developing good community relations.

We have introduced a Broadcasting Bill which has now completed its Committee stage; it will make provision for a television service on the fourth channel, and establish a broadcasting complaints commission. We have approved proposals for the further development of local radio in the United Kingdom. We have announced our agreement in principle to the introduction of a new personal radio facility to be called Open Channel.

Proposals to strengthen the powers of the courts in relation to young offenders and juveniles, and the review of home defence, are in an advanced state of preparation. Good progress is also being made with the major review of electoral law that we have undertaken.

The financial provision for law and order services has been increased, and the Home Office is at the same time playing its full part in the Government's strategy of securing increased efficiency at less cost in the public service.

Shoplifting

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the total number of recorded cases of shoplifting in 1979; and how many resulted in acquittals.

In 1979, some 203,000 offences of shoplifting were recorded by the police in England and Wales, about the same number as in 1978. Information on court proceedings in 1979 is not yet available, but in 1978 of the 80,000 people tried in England and Wales for shoplifting about 5,000 were not convicted.

Fire Service (Pay)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing for the various grades in the fire service the minimum salaries payable in April of each of the last three years.

The National Joint Council for Local Authorities' Fire Brigades, in which negotiations on the pay Minimum salary payable on Rank 1 April 1978 1 April 1979 1 April 1980 £ £ £ Senior Divisional Officer … … … … 6,840 8,355 10,074 Divisional Officer Grade 1 … … … 6,355 7,763 9,357 Divisional Officer Grade 2 … … … 5,754 7,029 8,472 Divisional Officer Grade 3 … … … 5,418 6,618 7,977 Assistant Divisional Officer … … … 5,058 6,178 7,446 Station Officer … … … … … 4,799 5,862 7,065 Sub-Officer. … … … … … … 4,140 5,057 6,090 Leading Fireman … … … … … 4,040 4,935 5,943 Fireman (aged 18 years) … … … … 2,967 3,624 4,365

The salaries of chief fire officers are determined by fire authorities within ranges recommended by the National Joint Council for Chief Officers' of Local Authorities' Fire Brigades according to the population of the area concerned and Minimum salary applicable Population band 1 April 1978 1 April 1979 1 April 1980 £ £ £ 75,000–150,000 … … … 7,076–8,515 7,704–9,300 10,752–13,020 Over 2,000,000 … … … 11,987–12,482 13,362–13,911 19,023–19,803

Assistant chief fire officers' salaries have normally been fixed as a proportion of those of their chief fire officers, but the proportion has varied over the last three years.

Civil Defence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will set up an inquiry into the present state of civil defence and the extent to which it should be strengthened, particularly in high-risk areas such as East Anglia.

My current review covers all aspects of civil preparedness for home defence.

Jury Vetting

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) if he intends to issue guidelines on the practice of jury vetting;

(2) if he will withdraw the guidelines now in effect for jury vetting.

I have been asked to reply.

of members of the fire service are conducted, has supplied the following information:

other factors. The following table shows the range of recommanded minimum salaries for cheif fire officers in respect of the smallest and largest population bands:

I am continuing my review of the practice of jury checks and the existing guidelines relating to them, now in the light of the decision of the Court of Appeal on 3 June. In the meantime those guidelines must be read subject to the ruling of the court.

Passports (Iran)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will outline Her Majesty's Government's proposals for action on visa control on passports for Iran, in relation to Her Majesty's Government's policy on sanctions.

Any Iranian passport holder seeking admission to the United Kingdom must hold a valid visa issued for the purpose for which he is seeking entry. Decisions on the issue of visas will be taken in accordance with the immigration rules. Particular attention will be paid, in cases where the application is for a temporary purpose such as a visit or study, to the credibility of the applicant's intentions in the United Kingdom and to his incentive to leave at the end of his permitted stay.

Dispensed Prescriptions (Loss)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what arrangements the Welsh Pricing Committee for National Health Service prescriptions makes for estimating the remuneration appropriate to dispensing chemists when parcels of dispensed prescriptions are lost in transit.

Such losses are very rare but when they do occur the pharmacist receives an advance payment equivalent to 80 per cent, of his remuneration for the preceding month. The balance due is later calculated on the basis of average payments made to the pharmacist both before and after the month in question adjusted to allow for any general discernible trend in dispensing costs in his locality.

Dieticians

asked the Secretary of State for Wales which health authorities in Wales do not have the services of a specialist dietician; and what he is doing to remedy the situation in those which do not.

Dyfed and Powys. It is for each authority, in the particular circumstances of its area, to decide the priority between this and other needs.

National Parks (Tree Planting)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if there is at present a tree planting programme in operation for the national parks of Wales; if not, if such a programme is planned; and if he will make a statement on his Department's policy for the planting of trees in Welsh national parks.

Amenity tree planting in national parks is the responsibility of the park authorities and the Countryside Commission. Afforestation for commercial purposes takes place in national parks depending on the availability of finance and land suitable for planting and is subject to consultation with statutory bodies. Tree planting policies within the national park areas are primarily a matter for the park authorities concerned.

Maternity Units

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Anglesey on 22 May, if he will seek to establish why no general practitioner maternity units with a lower number of births and lower average percentage bed occupancy per unit for last year, other than the Bryn Beryl, Pwllheli and the Gors, Holyhead, have been recommended for closure.

It is for health authorities to decide whether to recommend that general practitioner maternity units be closed. They are best able to take account of local circumstances.

Microprocessors

asked the Secretary of State for Wales in how many of the secondary schools of Wales there are practical facilities for studying the technology of microprocessors.

Precise information is not available, but I understand that, whilst few secondary schools have the necessary equipment for the study of microprocessor technology, an increasing number are using microprocessors for practical work in science and mathematics and many are seeking to develop pupils' awareness of the potential applications of microprocessors.

Leasing Finance

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he is now ready to lay regulations exempting those who provide leasing finance from the provisions of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974, in the same way that those who finance hire purchase, conditional sale and credit sale business are currently exempted.

I have agreed that the Health and Safety (Leasing Arrangements) Regulations 1980, recommended to me by the Health and Safety Commission should be made. These regulations will exempt from the duties under section 6 of the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974 those whose involvement is concerned exclusively with providing leasing finance in a similar way to that in which those who finance conditional sale and credit sale agreements are currently exempt.

I expect the regulations to be laid in the very near future.

United Kingdom Scotland Edinburgh travel-to-work area Per cent. Per cent. Per cent. March 1970 … … … 2.7 4.1 3.4 March 1971 … … … 3.2 5.5 4.4 March 1972 … … … 4.2 7.0 5.5 March 1973 … … … 3.1 5.3 4.3 March 1974 … … … 2.7 4.1 3.4 March 1975 … … … 3.4 4.5 3.7 March 1976 … … … 5.4 6.6 5.2 March 1977 … … … 5.7 7.8 6.4 March 1978 … … … 6.1 8.5 6.6 March 1979 … … … 5.8 8.1 6.1 March 1980 * … … … 6.1 8.9 6.4 * The March 1980 rates are not strictly comparable with those for earlier years because of the introduction of fortnightly attendance and payment of benefit. This had the effect of raising the monthly unemployment figures for the country as a whole by about 20,000 from October 1979, but this has a negligible effect on the percentage rates.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many males, females and young people have been unemployed in the United Kingdom, Scotland and Edinburgh in each March since 1970.

Table 1 below gives the numbers of males and females registered as unemployed in the United Kingdom, TABLE 1: ALL REGISTERED UNEMPLOYED United Kingdom Scotland Edinburgh employment office area Males Females Males Females Males Females March 1970 … 544,828 92,647 72,118 16,970 3,700 517 March 1971 … 619,962 117,982 92,788 22,927 4,679 652 March 1972 … 812,513 154,465 117,154 31,087 5,713 903 March 1973 … 594,351 122,854 88,564 25,262 4,600 802 March 1974 … 523,444 94,969 72,314 17,344 4,096 592 March 1975 … 657,688 144,899 76,346 22,410 4,352 734 March 1976 … 997,739 287,166 107,299 37,829 5,812 1,309 March 1977 … 1,028,498 354,974 123,289 52,158 6,631 2,106 March 1978 … 1,058,401 402,565 130,933 60,105 6,926 2,603 March 1979 … 1,005,494 396,760 123,250 59,747 6,289 2,576 March 1980* … 1,025,144 452,817 130,417 69,707 6,138 2,806 TABLE 2: REGISTERED UNEMPLOYED UNDER 20 YEARS OF AGE United Kingdom Scotland Edinburgh employment office area April 1979 … … 200,208 32,039 1,360 April 1980* … … 258,210 36,166 1,324 * The figures for March and April 1980 are not strictly comparable with those for earlier years because of the introduction of fortnightly attendance and payment of benefit. This had the effect ofraising the monthly figures for all unemployed in the country as a whole by about 20,000, or 1½ percent., from October 1979. Estimates of this effect by age are not available. The figures of unemployed aged under 20 yean include Easter school leavers in April 1980, but not April 1979 when the count was taken before Easter Roughly half the increase shown for the United Kingdom between the two dates is due to this.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what has been the percentage rate of unemployment in the United Kingdom, Scotland and the Edinburgh travel-to-work area in each March since 1970.

Following is the information:

Scotland and the Edinburgh employment office area for March each year from 1970.

Table 2 gives the numbers of young people under 20 years of age registered as unemployed at April 1979 and April 1980. Information for age groups is not available for March or on a consistent basis for earlier years.

Female Workers (Exemption Orders)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will hold discussions with the appropriate trade unions concerning the extent to which the Health and Safety Executive grants exemption orders to working women on unsocial hours, night work and Sundays.

If the hon. Member will write to me about the problem, I shall consider what action is appropriate.

Retraining and Skillcentres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many retraining and skillcentres there are currently in operation in South Wales, the Midlands, the North-East and Scotland; where they are situated; and if he has any plans to open more retraining and skill-centres in the above areas before the end of the current year.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the following skillcentres are currently in operation in the regions specified:

Region with Number of Centres and Annexes and Location

S. Wales 5 centres, 3 annexes: Cardiff Skillcentre; Treforest Annexe, Pontypridd; Tremorfa Annexe; Llanelli Skill-centre; Newport Skillcentre; Port Talbot Skillcentre; West Gwent Skillcentre, Pontllan-fraith, Gwent and Blaenau Gwent Annexe, Tarfarnaubach, Tredegar.

The Midlands 10 centres, 6 annexes: Handsworth Skillcentre, Birmingham; Handsworth SC Annexe; Castle Bromwich Skillcentre, Birmingham; Coventry Skill-centre; Coventry SC Annexe; Dudley Skill-centre; Kirkby-in-Ashfield Skillcentre; Kirk-by-in-Ashfield SC Annexe, Chesterfield; Leicester Skillcentre; Leicester SC Annexe, Northampton; Long Eaton Skillcentre; Long Eaton SC Annexe, Beeston; North Staffs. SC, Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent; Wolverhampton Skillcentre; Wolverhampton SC Annexe, Telford; Birmingham Youth Training Centre, Handsworth.

North East 7 skillcentres, 2 annexes: Billingham on Tees Skillcentre; Darlington Skillcentre; Durham Skillcentre; Durham Skillcentre Annexe; Felling Skillcentre, Gateshead; Felling SC Annexe, South Shields; Killingworth Skillcentre; Middlesbrough Skillcentre (Maryport SC Cumbria).

Scotland 9 centres, 3 annexes: Bellshill Skillcentre, Lanarkshire; Bellshill SC Annexe; Dumbarton Skillcentre; Dundee Skillcentre; Dunfermline Skillcentre; Edinburgh Skillcentre; Edinburgh SC Annexe; Glasgow (Hillington) Skillcentre; Glasgow (Hillington) Skillcentre Annexe; Glasgow (Queenslie) Skillcentre; Irvine Skillcentre, Ayrshire; Port Glasgow Skillcentre, Renfrewshire. It is proposed to open a new centre at Redditch by the end of 1980.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, further to the Minister's reply to the hon. Member for Stockport, North, Official Report , 23 May, column 37, about handicapped and disabled persons, if he will list the 55 firms who applied to pay wages below wages council rates to disabled or handicapped persons, together with the wages council rate of pay and the proposed reductions in each case.

Small Businesses

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what estimate he has of the number of people employed in firms of fewer than 20 people who have worked for that employer for fewer than two years.

[ pursuant to his reply ,3 June 1980, c. 486 ]: The information requested is not available from my Department's statistics.

Apprenticeships

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many boys and girls entered recognised apprenticeships in each Department of Employment region in the United Kingdom during each of the last three years for which figures are available and what percentage of school leavers these figures represent.

[ pursuant to his reply , 4 June 1980, c. 702 ]: I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the information requested is not available.

Women Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give details of United Kingdom applications made to the European Economic Community social fund for the current financial year in respect of special schemes to benefit women workers.

[ pursuant to his reply , 4 June 1980, c. 704]: Seven applications have been made to the European social fund in respect of special schemes starting in 1980 to benefit women.

Amount of Aid Requested N. Ireland £ Training of 45 women for occupations in the distributive industry 11,382 Gt. Britain MSC Training Services Division Wider Opportunities for Women Scheme (629 trainees) 201,373 Training at a College of Technology of 34 women for occupations in the field of art and design 14,639 Foundation accountancy course for 50 women at a Polytechnic 102,000 Training by a bank in the north of England of 59 women for supervisory/computer occupations 31,446 Training by an education authority of 32 women under 18 for construction industry 11,000 Training by the Engineering Industry Training Board of 250 women under 18 as engineering technicians 505,000

In addition, substantial numbers of women are included in United Kingdom applications to the fund for schemes which are open to men and women equally.

Trades Union Congress

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will list the occasions and dates when he or any of his departmental colleagues have met official representatives of the Trades Union Congress at a formal meeting to discuss policy issues; and whether there has been any occasion when he has refused to meet a Trades Union Congress deputation after the congress has officially requested one.

[ pursuant to his reply , 3 June 1980, c. 48687 ]: Since taking office I have never refused to meet a Trade Union Congress deputation after one has been officially requested. I and my junior Ministers met official TUC representatives at formal meetings in my Department on the following dates:

Date of Meeting

1979 23 May 5 June 27 June 22 August (together with Mr. Mayhew) 15 October 24 October 5 November (together with Mr. Mayhew) 29 November (together with Mr. Mayhew)

1980 10 January (together with Mr. Mayhew) 4 March (together with Mr. Mayhew) 11 March (together with Mr. Lester) 31 March (together with Mr. Lester and Lord Gowrie).

This list does not include occasions when I have met representatives of the TUC in their capacity as members of other organisations such as the Manpower Services Commission, or other non-departmental meetings.

Ethnic Minorities

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what talks he has had with the Manpower Services Commission and the Commission for Racial Equality about the problems of ethnic minority unemployment; and what proposals those bodies have made to him on the subject.

[ pursuant to his reply , 4 June 1980, c. 704 ]: My noble Friend the Minister of State, Department of Employment, together with the chairman of the Manpower Services Commission, will shortly be meeting the chairman of the Commission for Racial Equality to discuss the employment situation of the ethnic minorities. I understand that at that meeting the chairman of the CRE proposes to put forward a list of priorities for action, particularly in relation to young people in inner city areas.

Hampden Park

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he now expects to make a statement about Government funding for the redevelopment of Hampden Park.

Robroyston Hospital, Glasgow

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to announce the result of the review of the Scottish Home and Health Department's handling of the disposal of land at Robroyston hospital, Glasgow, announced on 28 February.

I understand that the review being conducted by Professor Halliday is nearing completion. I shall make an announcement after I have received and studied his report.

1981 Census

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if it is proposed to conduct any surveys which will be linked to the 1981 census.

It is proposed to undertake two census-linked surveys in Scotland. One will cover vacant housing. There is an excess of houses over households in Scotland and at both national and local levels it is desirable to know why houses are empty so that efficient use of the existing housing stock may be encouraged. There will also be a voluntary survey of teachers not employed in teaching. Estimates of the numbers of such teachers who may in future seek teaching appointments are needed for the effective planning of intake to colleges and to determine the size and shape of the teacher-training system. No information about individual teachers will be made available outwith the census office. The census affords the best opportunity for these surveys to be £'000 197778 ( actual ) 197879 ( actual ) 197980 ( provisional ) African Development Fund … … … 900 1,556 544 Asian Development Bank … … … 3,766 4,336 4,594 Caribbean Development Bank … … … 844 2,358 2,652 Inter American Development Bank … … 3,282 5,837 6,096 Total (cash) … … … … 8,792 14,087 13,886 Total (1979 constant prices) … … 10,517 15,549 13,886

Interim Discretionary Relief (Small Businesses)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will introduce legislation to provide interim discretionary relief for small business men who suffer financial loss as a result of high interest rates and delayed repayment of value added tax by the Revenue.

No. It would be wrong to exempt individual sectors from the inevitably painful measures needed to reduce inflation. But there is no doubt that as our policies take effect interest

carried out and both will be undertaken on a 10 per cent, sample basis.

Roads Policy

asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he expects to make a statement on roads policy in Scotland.

A statement setting out the Government's policy on roads in Scotland has been lodged today in the Library of the House. It highlights the need for new roads to be conceived in their wider planning and environmental context and calls for greater attention to be given to the selection of priorities, and in particular to solving the worst problems of congestion, environmental damage and poor existing roads.

Regional Development Banks

asked the Lord Privy Seal what contributions have been made during the last three years to each regional development bank, in both cash and constant price terms.

Payments to regional development banks in the last three years were as follows:

rates will fall: that is certainly the best way we can help all business and enterprise. As regards delayed repayment of value added tax, it should be borne in mind that over 90 per cent, of valid claims for repayment of value added tax are paid within 10 days of receipt by Customs and Excise.

Departmental Staff

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if any of the 40 staff savings in his Department, the 465 in Customs and Excise, the 5,515 in the Inland Revenue and the 1,070 in National Savings announced on 6 December 1979 have yet been made; and if not, when he expects them to be achieved and in what divisions, at what grades, and in which geographical regions.

The staff savings so far achieved are as follows: Her Majesty's Treasury 23 Department for National Savings 322½ Customs and Excise 215 Inland Revenue 2,810

A breakdown of the balance of the savings and the estimated date by which they are expected to be achieved is shown below: HER MAJESTY'S TREASURY (Dec 1981) Asst. Sec 1 Snr. Prin. 1 Princ. 1 Stat. 1 Senior Enforcement Officer 1 HEO (A). 1 HEO 1 Clerical 1 Typing. 1

We expect the remaining posts, which represent a saving of 8 security guards, to be disbanded by 1982–83.

CUSTOMS AND EXCISE (31 March 1982) CO and below 100 EO and above 150

Approximately 140 of the total will be in London and South East, 95 in Scotland and the remainder in other collections throughout INLAND REVENUE (31 March 1982) CO and below 2,305 EO and above 400

Some 1,800 of the further reduction consists of posts in local tax and collection offices throughout the United Kingdom, and about 600 will be in the network of district valuers' offices.

DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL SAVINGS (1 April 1984)

CO and below Bonds & Stock Office, Lytham St. Annes 215 National Savings Bank, lasgow 471 ½ EO and above Bonds & Stock Office, Lytham St. Annes 29 National Savings Bank Glasgow 32

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in which divisions, at what grades and in what geographical area the 1,571 posts by which the staff in post in the Customs and Excise contracted between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1980 were employed.

Between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1980 the permanent staff in post in Her Majesty's Customs and Excise fell by 1,5383½. A grade breakdown of this reduction is: Principal and above 24 SEO 109 HEO 266 EO 400 CO 321 CA 201½ Other grades 217

The table includes a small number of non-administration group staff at the administration group equivalent grades.

A geographical breakdown is set out in the following table: Headquarters London −239½ Southend −303½ Other HQ offices −40 Total −583 Collections Aberdeen −9½ Belfast −17 Birmingham +3 Brighton −5 Bristol −39 Chester −27 Dover −28½ East Anglia −18 Edinburgh −59 Glasgow −43 Greenock −47½ Hull −64½ Leeds −35 Liverpool −90 London Airports −85 London Central −10 London North −11 London Port −90½ London South −14½ London West −28 Manchester −43 Newcastle −39 Northampton +10 Nottingham −14½ Plymouth −46½ Preston −21 Reading −2 Southampton −58½ South Wales and Borders −22 Total −955½

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in which divisions, at what grades and in what geographical area the 408 posts by which the staff in post in the Department for National Savings contracted between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1980 were employed.

The number of staff in the Department for National Savings contracted by 401 between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1980, accounted for as follows: Grade HQ ( South East ) National Savings Bank ( Scotland ) Bonds & Stock Office ( North West ) Savings Certificate & SAYE office ( Northern ) Non Industrial − + − + − + − + − + Seo & Above 2 1 3 HEO/IO 3 2 1 6 EO 1 16 8 15 10 CO 1 276 76 75 278 CA 29 64 43 50 DP Grades 64½ 10 12 42½ Typing Grades 2½ 5 7 2 7½ Photoprinter Grades 5 5 Office Keeper & Messenger Grades 1 4 2 3 Cleaners 2 5 3 6 2½ 400½ 162 17 147 405 3 −3½ −400½ −145 +147 −402 Industrial Patrolmen 2 1 1 3½ −400½ −143 +146 −401

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer in which divisions, at what grades and in what geographical area the 6,345 posts by which the staff in post in the Inland Revenue contracted between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1980 were employed.

Between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1980 the permanent staff in post in the Inland Revenue was reduced by 980 EO and higher grades and 5,325 CO and below. Of the total some 4,900 were staff in tax and collection offices and about 1,150 staff in valuation offices, with the balance from headquarters and other offices.

Reductions were made in the networks of Inland Revenue offices throughout the United Kingdom broadly in proportion to staff distribution. A detailed breakdown by area could be provided only at considerable cost.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will seek to abolish value added tax on pet foods which are used to feed guide dogs for the blind; and if he will make a statement;

(2) if he will seek to abolish value added tax on veterinary fees for guide dogs for the blind; and if he will make a statement.

No. In the context of a broadly based tax on consumer expenditure, a selective relief from VAT of this nature would not, I regret, be justified.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why value added tax relief is available on a new detached house but not upon a new semi-detached house built against an existing structure.

There is no difference in treatment for VAT purposes between detached and semi-detached houses when they are supplied by VAT-registered traders. Both are relieved by zero rating.

As regards houses built by private individuals on a "do-it-yourself" basis, the special refund scheme provided by section 15A of the Finance Act 1972 enables people who build complete new dwellings to reclaim VAT incurred on goods and materials used for that purpose, but this scheme does not extend to benefit the conversion, reconstruction, alteration or enlargement of any existing building. These limitations will usually deny the refund to individuals building a semi-detached house on a DIY basis.

If my hon. Friend has any particular case in mind and will let me have details, I will look into it.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether, pursuant to the written answer given to the hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mr. Lyell), Official Report , 15 May, column 648–9, he intends to consult the representative bodies in the construction industry before reaching any decision on possible changes to the value added tax treatment of building and civil engineering work; and if he is yet able to make a further statement.

Customs and Excise has met major trade associations of the industry on several occasions in the course of its review of the application of value added tax to building work. In addition, I had the pleasure myself of meeting the industry's joint taxation committee earlier this year. I think these bodies have been given every opportunity to make their views known, but Customs and Excise is naturally willing to receive further representations at any time.

I am not yet able to say when the review will be completed or when any announcement will be made.

European Community Budget (United Kingdom Contribution)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) how the figures for the United Kingdom's EEC budget contribution will be affected by each percentage point rise in the value of the £ sterling above the present level to a maximum 10 per cent, revaluation;

(2) when refunds will be available from the EEC; and, if delayed, under what circumstances interest payments will be due.

Day of Action

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer how many of the non-industrial staff of his Department were absent without authority on 14 May; how many of these hold politically sensitive posts; and if he will take steps to transfer those officials in the latter category to work where opposition to Government policy does not matter.

The number of staff absent without authority on 14 May was as follows: Staff absent Treasury 3 Customs and Excise 544 Dept. National Savings 428 Inland Revenue 2,185

None of these staff holds a post which would justify transfer to other work.

Year Pneumonia Meningococcal infections Measles Diphtheria Acute Poliomyelitis Tuberculosis 1945 … … * 71 N/A 11 25 N/A 123 1946 … … * 71 N/A 6 11 N/A 120 1947 … … * 86 N/A 43 13 N/A 109 1948 … … * 64 N/A 14 4 N/A 81 1949 … … * 44 N/A 5 9 N/A 65 1950 … … * 40 2 8 5 13 58 1951 … … * 32 3 5 2 5 49 1952 … … * 24 3 — 4 39 1953 … … * 24 4 — 1 6 19 1954 … … * 26 2 2 — 3 15 1955 … … * 28 4 5 1 — 10 1956 … … * 20 4 1 — 3 2 1957 … … * 27 3 2 — 5 4 1958 … … *16 3 — — 1 5 1959 … … 14 6 — — — 3 1960 … … 18 — — — 1 2 1961 … … 28 3 — 4 2 3 1962 … … 28 2 1 — 1 — 1963 … … 22 1 2 — —. 1 1964 … … 12 2 2 — — — 1965 … … 20 1 2 — — 2 1966 … … 28 5 — — — 1 1967 … … 11 3 3 — — 1 1968 … … 9 1 3 — 2 — 1969 … … 13 1 3 — — 1 1970 … … 13 3 1 — — — 1971 … … 11 6 2 — — — 1972 … … 12 6 — — — 2 1973 … … 10 8 3 — — 1 1974 … … 14 10 — — — — 1975 … … 13 2 3 — — 1 1976 … … 14 3 — — — — 1977 … … 13 6 1 — — — 1978† … … 4 2 — — — — * excludes chronic interstitial pneumonia † provisional

South Africa

asked the Secretary of State for Trade why he did not publish the names of the 33 British companies paying

Child Mortality

asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what was the level of deaths of children aged 1 to 14 years in Northern Ireland in the period 1945 to 1979 for the following categories: diphtheria immunisation, pneumonia, meningococcal infections, measles, diphtheria, acute poliomyelitis, tuberculosis, and poliomyelitis immunisation.

The number of deaths from meningococcal infections and acute poliomyelitis in the years before 1950 and the number of deaths due to immunisations are not known. Figures for 1979 are not yet available. The information which is available is as follows:

African workers less than the poverty datum line; and if he will make a statement.

I do not think it right to publish, under protection of parliamentary privilege, a list of names which is necessarily based partly on subjective judgment and which may therefore be misleading. All the information supplied by companies is contained in their reports under the code of conduct; these are available for inspection by the public.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if, in view of the large number of British companies operating in South Africa which have refused to cooperate by providing information on African working conditions as recommended by the EEC code of conduct, he will now legislate to make reporting under this code mandatory.

Of the over 200 British companies believed to be liable to report under the code only 19 have failed to publish reports for the year ended 30 June 1979; this compares with 36 companies for the previous reporting period. The case for mandatory reporting is thus weaker now than it was under the previous Government of which the hon. Gentleman was a member.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will indicate the number and names of British companies operating in South Africa which have failed to provide reports on African working conditions as recommended under the EEC code of conduct; and if he will provide the number and names of companies which have provided such information in incomplete form.

Companies that have failed to publish reports are listed in annex D to my Department's summary of reports—[Vol. 982, c. 653–4.] The reports that have been published by companies are available for public inspection.

Departmental Staff

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the staff establishment of his Department on 1 April 1979 and on 1 April of the current year; and what was the shortfall on these figures, if any, and the grades and geographical regions where the shortfall occurred.

[ pursuant to her reply , 23 May 1980, c. 399 ]: In April 1979 the main shortfall, 165, was in the South-East planning region, with smaller shortfalls of two in East Anglia, three in the East Midlands, three in Yorkshire and Humberside, four in the North-West, six in Scotland and 22 in Wales which, with small surpluses in the other planning regions, gave a net shortfall of 179. The shortages were mainly in the professional grades with a smaller shortfall of support staff.

In April 1980 the main shortfall, 161, was again in the South-East region, with shortfalls of one in East Anglia, two in the East Midlands, seven in Yorkshire and Humberside, two in the North-West, three in the Northern region and 12 in Wales with small surpluses in the other regions to give a net shortfall of 142. The shortfall was mainly in the administration group with smaller shortfalls of professional and support staff.

Exports

Sir Paul Bryan asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the value of United Kingdom exports to (a) Japan, (b) China, (c) India, (d) Korea and (e) Hong Kong, expressed as a percentage of the gross national product of each of the importing countries.

Estimates for the year 1978 are as follows:

United Kingdom exports to certain countries as a percentage of their GNP.

Japan 0.1 China 0.0* India 0.6 South Korea 0.6 Hong Kong 4.9 Source: United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics 1979 World Bank Atlas. NOTE: * less than 00.5.

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what information it is intended that directors' reports should contain about the employment of disabled persons under the regulations he proposes to make under the Companies Act 1980; what consultations he has now had on the regulations; and when the order is likely to be laid before Parliament.

I intend to make regulations to require directors' reports for all companies employing more than a specified number of employees in the United Kingdom to contain a statement of the company's policy in respect of the employment of disabled persons. The terms of these regulations are now being finalised in the light of advice received from the National Advisory Council on Employment of Disabled People and from the Manpower Services Commission. I propose to make the regulations as soon as possible after the entry into force on 23 June of section 81 of the Companies Act 1980, which provides the power to alter or add to the statutory requirements for the contents of directors reports by regulations.

Motor Vehicles (Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the total number and value of imports of cars, trucks, vans and lorries into the United Kingdom from the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics in each year since June 1970.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many motor cycles were imported into the United Kingdom in each year since 1970 in categories of engine size; and from which countries they came in numbers and as percentages for each year.

Foreign Manufacturers (Quotas)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) how many foreign manufacturers have voluntary quotas for the limitation of their goods to the United Kingdom; from which countries they came; what share of the market they represent; and what type and range of manufacture they cover;

(2) which foreign manufacturers entering voluntary import quota agreements for goods to the United Kingdom have failed to honour the agreements; and in which range of manufactures.

[ pursuant to his reply ,2 June 1980, c. 495 ]: Exporting of cutlery and footwear from South Korea, cars

from Japan and some consumer electronic products from Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea and Japan is subject to voluntary restraint or control in the manufacturing country, usually undertaken after discussions between representatives of the United Kingdom industry and their counterparts in the exporting countries. The Government are not directly involved in such discussions; these, and the operation of any undertakings given, are essentially matters for the industries concerned. There are, of course, a number of restraint arrangements agreed with certain Governments rather than manufacturers: notably with Eastern European countries, and with developing countries as regards textiles and steel.

Research Programmes

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he is now able to make available a copy of the proposed 1980–81 research programme for his Department, promised in the reply to a written question by the hon. Member for Thurrock on 13 May.

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will estimate the cost of research projects undertaken on behalf of his Department by private companies and institutions in the current financial year.

This information will be included in the material which I have already promised to send to the hon. Member.

Heveningham Hall

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will confirm that the receipts from the proposed sale of Heveningham Hall will be applied to expenditure on the nation's heritage.

I am pleased to be able to give my hon. Friend the assurance he is seeking.

When I announced my decision to see whether it would be possible to find a suitable new owner for Heveningham—[Vol. 978, c. 367 ]—I indicated that the first call on the net proceeds from a sale would be to reimburse the national land fund for the money spent on the acquisition and maintenance of the property. Now that the land fund has been wound up the sale proceeds will be allocated to heritage expenditure—either through the national heritage memorial fund or by increasing the allocation for acceptance of heritage property in lieu of capital transfer tax.

Land Registers

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when he expects to name the local authorities which will be required to publish land registers.

I have selected the following districts for the first land registers to be established under the powers being sought in part X of the Local Government, Planning and Land (No. 2) Bill:

Liverpool

Wirral

Sefton

Manchester

Trafford

Preston

Salford

Stockport

Newcastle

Gateshead

Middlesbrough

Birmingham

Dudley

Stoke

Newcastle-under-Lyme

Coventry

Leeds

Bradford

Bristol

Ealing

Wandsworth

Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979

asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is his timetable for bringing into force the various provisions of the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979.

[ pursuant to his reply , 4 June 1980, c. 760 ]: An announcement will be made this summer about likely dates for bringing into force the rest of the Act.

M66 (Extension Contract)

asked the Minister of Transport when he expects to announce the contract to build the proposed extension of the M66.

This scheme appears in the roads White Paper, published today as in the "Main Programme—1984 onwards". There are a number of further stages of preparation including publication of draft statutory orders and, if necessary, a public inquiry, before there can be any question of placing a contract to build the road.

Road Bridges (Lorry Weights)

asked the Minister of Transport what is the estimated cost of replacing or strengthening the road bridges that will be put at potential risk by the EEC proposals for increased axle and gross weights permitted for lorries.

The Department's published evidence to the Armitage inquiry explains in detail why the EEC draft directive on lorry weights gives rise to a potential risk to road bridges in this country, and what amendments would be needed to the directive so as to reduce or eliminate entirely the possibility of additional damage to road bridges. The Department will be providing the inquiry with further information on the costs of reconstructing bridges if that were to prove necessary and this information will be published.

Motorway and Trunk Road Schemes

asked the Minister of Transport, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Newport on 15 May. why he will not provide the details of schemes due to start after 31 October 1979 for which provision was made in the Supply Estimates 1980–81, that is. £3,347,000 for motorway schemes and £27,787,000 for trunk road schemes with a total cost between £1 million and £10 million; and, if the provision was not related to specific schemes, on what basis the figure was determined.

The provision of £3,347,000 relates to motorway communications, service areas and other miscellaneous items and not to new road schemes. The provision of £27,787,000 relates to schemes in progress on 31 October 1979. Details were given in reply to the hon. Member on 15 May [Vol. 984, c. 568–74.] In addition, the Estimates

include provision of £18,149,000 for trunk road schemes with a total cost between £1,000,000 and £10,000,000 in respect of contracts let after 31 October 1979. It is normal for the Estimates to include provision for all schemes which could be ready to start and an offsetting allowance is made for those which may not be ready to start in time. As the programme was also under review, the figure was intended to be a global provision for those which would eventually be ready and selected. Details of schemes which were expected to be ready up to this summer were given in reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Wellingborough (Mr. Fry) on 4 December.—[Vol. 975, c. 131–32.]

Roads (White Paper)

asked the Minister of Transport when he will publish his roads White Paper.

I am publishing today my roads White Paper "Policy For Roads: England 1980", Cmnd. 7908. It sets out our policy for the trunk road system in England and the results of our review of the road programme. We are stabilising expenditure on roads at the level inherited from the last Government. We plan to complete most of the major industrial routes by the mid 1980s. We are also putting more emphasis on building bypasses to take heavy through traffic away from towns and villages. Finally, we intend to ensure that our roads are adequately maintained to preserve the investment we have already made.

LAND REGISTRY

asked the Attorney-General what is the average period for processing registration applications on first and subsequent registrations by all regional offices of the Land Registry.

The average times in cases which are in order are 21 working days for a dealing with registered land where no new title is created and 68 working days for a new title. This represents a slight improvement on the position disclosed in my answer to my hon. Friend the Member for Lichfield and Tamworth (Mr. Heddle on 6 March.—[Vol. 980, c. 299 ].

asked the Attorney-General what numbers are currently employed in the various regional offices of the Land Registry, having a responsibility for conveyancing of residential property.

On 1 May 1980 at district registries—all of which deal with residential property—the numbers were as follows: Birkenhead 250 Croydon 383 Durham 348 Gloucester 604 Harrow 478 Lytham 552 Nottingham 666 Plymouth 392 Stevenage (including Peterborough Sub-office) 626 Swansea 305 Tunbridge Wells 646 Weymouth 216

BRITISH LIBRARY

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster when the Government intend to proceed with the construction of the new British Library.

I refer the right hon. Gentleman to my answer of 2 June to the hon. Member for Warley, East (Mr. Faulds).–[Vol. 985, c. 524 .]

Greek Students (Fees)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement about the level of fees to be paid at universities and polytechnics in the academic year 1980–81 by Greek nationals in the light of the fact that Greece is due to become a full member of the European Economic Community in January 1981.

I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. and learned Friend's answer to the question asked by my hon. Friend the Member for Ludlow (Mr. Cockeram) on 3 June.—[Vol. 985, c. 689 .]

Part-time Teachers

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science how many part-time teachers were employed in ( a ) primary schools and ( b ) secondary schools in each year since 1970; and what percentage of these teachers in each case were women.

TEACHERS (QUALIFIED TEACHERS IN REGULAR SERVICE)—ENGLAND AND WALES Primary (excluding nursery) schools Secondary schools Miscellaneous primary and secondary establishments and teachers with service divided between primary and secondary schools Number of teachers * Percentagetd women Number of teachers * Percentage women Number of teachers * Percentage women (' 000s ) (' 000s ) (' 000s ) 1970 … … 20.2 97 17.9 81 . . . . 1971 … … 21.3 97 18.0 81 0.3 86 1972 … … 21.5 97 18.2 82 0.5 82 1973 … … 21.6 97 17.9 82 0.7 83 1974 … … 22.1 97 190 84 0.7 86 1975 … … 21.9 97 19.2 84 1.0 81 1976 … … 19.9 98 17.2 86 1.2 83 1977 … … 17.9 98 15.1 88 1.5 80 1978 … … 16.8 98 14.4 89 1.4 81 1979 … … 16.6 99 14.8 89 1.6 83 1980 … … 16.4 . . † 15.0 . . † 1.7 . . † . . Not available. * Actual numbers, not reduced to full-time equivalents. † Breakdown of part-time teachers between men and women was not collected in 1980.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science (1) what proportion of teachers of remedial classes in (a) primary schools and (b) secondary schools were employed as part-time in each year since 1970;

(2) what proportion of teachers of specialist subjects in secondary schools was employed as part-time in each year since 1970.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he has to improve the career prospects of part-time teachers; what discussions he is holding on this; and if he will make a statement.

The employment and career management of part-time teachers are matters for local education authorities.

Illiteracy

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will make a statement on the policy of Her Majesty's Government towards solving the problem of illiteracy.

In establishing the adult literacy and basic skills unit with substantial

Information is given in the table below:

funding and a longer remit than any previous agency set up in this field, the Government have recognised illiteracy as a significant and continuing problem which they are determined, even in a period of general financial restraint, to help reduce. The importance which we attach to attacking the problem at source by the teaching of English language skills in schools is reflected in our proposals for seeking a national consensus on a framework for the school curriculum.

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is his Department's estimate of the number of people in the United Kingdom at present who are ( a ) totally illiterate, ( b ) semi-literate and ( c ) basically literate; and what are the estimates of those who were totally illiterate and basically literate for the following years: 1945, 1950, 1955, 1960, 1965, 1970 and 1975.

This information is not available. The British Association of Settlements estimated in 1974 that some 6 per cent, of the adult population—about 2 million people—functioned at an inadequate level of literacy. Despite the widespread provision of tuition in literacy, which has since 1975 catered for some 70,000 adults a year, a significant problem remains.

School Meals and Textbooks

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science, pursuant to his replies to the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, North-East on 15 May, if his Department will start collecting information on ( a ) how many schools have bought text and other books with the help of parental contributions, ( b ) how much money has been raised from parents to buy books, equipment and so on, ( c ) the extent to which head teachers are spending time in fund-raising activities, ( d ) how many secondary schools have had to close one or more of their kitchens because of falling demand for school lunches and ( e ) how many local education authorities are allowing pensioners to eat at schools following falling demand for school lunches by children.

No. I do not consider that the likely uses of such information would justify the cost of systematic collection.

Education Policy

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he is satisfied that his Department collects sufficient information to enable him to monitor the effect of Government policies.

My Department receives information, on request or volunteered, from many sources. Within the limits of the Department's resources for handling this information, and having regard to the demands that collection makes on other people, I am satisfied that the needs of policy making and review are broadly met. These needs and corresponding collection of information are kept continually under review.

School Places (Cost)

asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the average cost per year in 1980 survey prices of a place in a ( a ) maintained primary school, ( b ) maintained secondary school in respect to children 11 to 16 years and ( c ) maintained secondary school in respect to sixth form pupils in England and Wales.

The figures are as follows: Net institutional recurrent costs per pupil in England and Wales Financial year 1978–79 £ at 1980 survey prices Maintained primary schools 413 Maintained secondary schools pupils aged 11–16 570 pupils aged 16 + 992

Mentally Ill Patients (Psychosurgical Operations)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services under what conditions mentally ill patients are given psychosurgical operations without their fully informed consent.

Psychosurgery is now performed in a very limited number of cases and I am advised that in current practice it is used only after alternative forms of treatment have proved ineffective to treat a seriously incapacitating and chronic condition. It is not normally indicated in psychotic conditions, but published studies have described the relief obtained by some patients with crippling neurotic disabilities.

There is no legal provision authorising or implying that any form of treatment can be imposed on an informal—voluntary—psychiatric patient without his consent. As for any form of treatment, it is established good practice for the doctor to explain to the patient the nature, purpose and likely effects of psychosurgery so that he can give fully informed consent.

As to the 5 per cent, of all in-patients in mental illness hospitals who are detained, the Department's view is that the Mental Health Act gives implicit authority to administer recognised forms of treatment for mental disorder, without the patient's consent where necessary. However, as with informal patients, it is good practice for the doctor to explain any treatment to the detained patient and, wherever possible, to seek his consent. Similarly, it is usual to explain the proposed treatment to close relatives and seek their agreement, although a relative's consent has no standing in law. But I am advised that it is most unlikely that a surgeon would be prepared to perform psychosurgery without the patient's own consent.

Hospital Closures (Flowers Report)

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is the age and grade distribution of staff affected by hospital closures which will result from the Flowers report, and if he will give the figures for clinical and non-clinical academic and related staff respectively;

(2) what is the estimated value of buildings that would become vacant when hospitals are closed if the Flowers report is implemented; and whether moneys made from such sales will accrue to the university;

(3) how the calculation of savings of £3 million if the Flowers report is implemented was made; and what is the breakdown of specific savings to be made;

(4) what compensation will be paid to staff whose jobs disappear as a result of hospital closures which result from the Flowers report;

(5) what will be the cost of implementing the Flowers proposals for the reorganisation of medical and dental resources in London.

The Flowers working party was set up to consider the future use of resources for medical and dental education within the University of London. Accordingly, at this stage, it is for the university to consider what to do about Lord Flowers' proposals for the medical schools and postgraduate institutes and the consequences for their staff, finances and buildings.

I have no plans at present to close any hospitals as a consequence of the Flowers report. I will be asking the London Advisory Group to advise me on the future pattern of acute hospital services in central London in the light of the decisions of the university on medical education.

Departmental Staff

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if any of the 1,705 staff savings in his Department and the 275 in the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys announced on 6 December 1979 have yet been made; and, if not, when he expects them to be achieved and in what divisions, at what grades and in which geographical regions.

Part of the reduction in administration costs in DHSS may be found from non-manpower savings. Expressed wholly in terms of posts, an estimated breakdown of the savings by economic planning region is as follows: DHSS OPCS Northern 198 — Yorks and Humberside 113 — East Midlands 73 — East Anglia 33 — South East 658 193 South West 88 — West Midlands 108 — North West 235 82 Wales 73 — Scotland 125 — Total 1,704 275 It is estimated that some 490 posts in DHSS, and 50 in OPCS will be saved in the grade of executive officer—or equivalent—or above and the remainder in the grade of clerical officer or below.

Of the DHSS figure the equivalent of 1,150 posts is expected to be saved in the local office organisation, 200 in the central offices at Newcastle and North Fylde and artificial limb and appliance centres and some 350 in headquarters.

The OPCS savings will be made as follows: establishments 76, marriages and registration 25, medical statistics six, NHS register 70, population statistics 15, computer division 29, census 30 and social survey 24.

Savings of over 250 posts in DHSS and 50 posts in OPCS have been made to date. The remainder will be achieved progressively by April 1984.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services in which divisions, at what grades and in what geographical area the 2,167 posts by which the staff in post in his Department contracted between 1 April 1979 and 1 April 1980 were employed.

An analysis of the reduction of 2,160 posts is shown in the following table. There is an element of approximation where the economic planning regions and DHSS regions do not coincide.

STAFF IN POST—DIFFERENCE BY GRADE BETWEEN 1 APRIL 1979 AND 1 APRIL 1980 Economic Region HEOand above EO * CO * CA Others Total difference Northern: Local Office Organisation … +1 +40 −173 −69 +3 −198 Newcastle Central Office … −5 +19 −272 −210 +27 −441 −4 +59 −445 −279 +30 −639 Yorkshire and Humberside: Local Office Organisation … −1 −19 −161 −87 +11 −257 East Midland: Local Office Organisation … −8 +30 −119 −10 +7 −100 Special Hospital … … … − − −1 − +34 +33 −8 +30 −120 −10 +41 −67 East Anglia: Local Office Organisation … −3 +13 −51 −4 +3 −42 South East: Local Office Organisation … +13 +300 −146 +142 +32 +341 Headquarters … … … −91 −79 −134 −102 −159 −565 Special Hospital … … … − − −1 −1 +34 +32 Youth Treatment Centre … − − − − +17 +17 −78 +221 −281 +39 −76 −175 South West: Local Office Organisation … −12 −24 −176 −21 −5 −238 West Midlands: Local Office Organisation … −7 −14 −236 −48 −5 −310 Youth Treatment Centre … +9 +9 −7 −14 −236 −48 +4 −310 North West: Local Office Organisation … +9 +36 −396 −123 −12 −486 North Fylde Central Office … +10 −20 −51 −7 −20 −109 Special Hospitals … … +2 +2 −2 −2 +69 +69 ALACS … … … … −1 +2 +10 +21 −3 +29 − +20 −439 −111 +33 −497 Wales: Local Office Organisation … −5 +13 −20 −48 −2 −62 Scotland: Local Office Organisation … −7 +93 −19 +43 +3 +107 Livingston Computer Centre … − +3 +1 − +7 +11 −7 +96 −18 +43 +4 +118 TOTAL … … … −125 +395 −1,947 −526 +43 −2,160 * The figures for EO and CO include the Departmental grades of Local officer I and II respectively

Artificial Limbs

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will authorise research to improve the types of artificial limbs at present available in Great Britain.

Authorisation is not necessary. There is a continuous programme

of research to improve artificial limbs. This is carried out by the Bio-mechanical Research and Development Unit and by the manufacturers of artificial limbs as part of their contract to the Department for overall supply.

Mesothelioma

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, for each pneumoconiosis board, for each year 1967 to 1980, in how many cases entered in the mesothelioma register have dependants, who were advised of the diagnosis of mesothelioma only after post-mortem, been awarded ( a ) industrial death benefit, ( b ) industrial disability benefit, (c) hardship allowance and ( d ) constant attendance allowance.

The following awards of industrial death benefit have been made on the basis that death resulted from mesothelioma: Year of death 1967 18 1968 27 1969 22 1970 18 1971 24 1972 22 1973 28 1974 41 1975 78 1976 94 1977 88 1978 89 Information is not yet available for awards in 1979 and 1980. I regret that information in respect of awards of disablement benefit, special hardship allowance and constant attendance allowance for this disease is not available.

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, for each pneumoconiosis board, for each year, 1967 to 1980, how many cases entered in the mesothelioma register have been awarded, during their lifetime, ( a ) industrial disability benefit, ( b ) hardship allowance and ( c ) constant attendance allowance.

Royal Liverpool Children's Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will meet a deputation of the action committee and trade unions objecting to the proposed closure of the heart unit at the Royal Liverpool children's hospital;

(2) if he will list in the Official Report the names of organisations and hon. Members who have objected to him against the proposed closure of the heart unit at the Royal Liverpool children's hospital.

Ministers in this Department are always ready to welcome deputations from hon, and right hon. Members, but I am not clear that it would be appropriate for me to meet a deputation in this case. As I understand it, there is no proposal to close the paediatric cardiology unit at the Royal Liverpool children's hospital, though it is planned to rebuild it in more spacious and modern accommodation when replacement of existing equipment necessitates a move from its present cramped conditions in the basement of the hospital. I have received no representations on the subject from either organisations or hon. Members, though I have noted the early-day motion tabled on 2 June in the name of the hon. Member and that of the hon. Members for Liverpool, Walton (Mr. Heffer), Liverpool, West Derby (Mr. Ogden), Bootle (Mr. Roberts), Birkenhead (Mr. Field) and Ormskirk (Mr. Kilroy-Silk).

Children in Care

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proposals he has to issue regulations concerning foster care, and the review of children in care.

My right hon. Friend has no plans to amend the boarding out of children regulations in the foreseeable future. We shall consider the position on regulations governing the reviews of children in care when the working party on costing the unimplemented provisions of the Children Act 1975 reports later this year.

Community Hospital Project, St. George's Hospital

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, in view of his policy to encourage cooperation between the National Health Service and the private sector in medicine, if he will state the reasons for his decision against the implementation of the community hospital project at St. George's hospital, Hyde Park Corner.

The Department has told the sponsor of this proposal that after services have been transferred from St. George's hospital, Hyde Park Corner, there will be no alternative National Health Service use for this site.

Medicine and Dentistry Schools

asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the estimated cost of rehousing institutions and staff at each of the following: ( a ) University College School of Medicine and Dentistry, ( b ) The Lister and St. Thomas Joint School of Medicine and Dentistry, ( c ) Charing Cross School of Medicine, ( d ) St. George's School of Medicine and Dentistry and ( e ) St. Mary's and Royal Postgraduate Joint School of Medicine and Dentistry.

I have been asked to reply.

I am unable at this stage to give an estimate but, the Flowers working party report claims that savings of the order of £3 million per annum, at 1978–79 prices, could follow more or less immediately upon the implementation of the report's recommendations for regrouping the present medical and dental schools and postgraduate institutes of London University into four schools for medicine and dentistry and two joint schools of medicine and dentistry. As regards capital costs, the report contemplates building works only of a relatively minor nature.

Herbicide (Land Spraying)

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the annual turnover in pounds of herbicide in the United Kingdom; what proportion of land is sprayed annually; and, in undertaking such a task, what is the total tonnage of active ingredients used.

Figures on sales of herbicides are given in the latest annual report of the British Agrochemicals Association. The latest available information on the scale of spraying and the tonnage of active ingredient used in England and Wales can be found in tables 3.3 and 3.4 of the Royal Commission on environmental pollution's report " Agriculture and Pollution " (Cmnd. 7644).

Fenoprop

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the permitted level of tetrachlorodi-benzosioxin impurity in the herbicide Fenoprop.

The standard of 0.01 mg of TCDD per kg of active ingredient introduced on 22 May applies also to Fenoprop.

Intensive Farming

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will list in the Official Report the countries within the EEC which have any form of licensing arrangements for intensive farming practices; and which species of farm animals and production methods are covered by them.

The only European Community country to operate such a licensing system is Denmark where the keeping of laying hens in battery cages is subject to authorisation by the Government's veterinary directorate.

Tree Felling

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many acres of trees were felled in England and Wales in 1979.

Precise figures are available only for the Forestry Commission's plantations and by financial years.

In the year ended 31 March 1980 the Commission felled 2,600 hectares (6,500 acres) in England and Wales. It is estimated that felling in private woodland amounted to some 3,100 hectares (7,700 acres) in the same period.

Forestry Commission

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many acres of land in England and Wales the Forestry Commission owns at present; how much it owned on 3 May 1979; how much acreage it is expecting to purchase by 31 December 1980; what percentage of the acreage it owns at present is being used for the growing of trees; and what types of trees are being grown.

Statistics are maintained by financial years. The following is the available information for England and Wales.

At 31 March 1980 the Forestry Commission's land holdings totalled 463,600 hectares (1,145,500 acres); the corresponding figure at 31 March 1979 was 464,100 hectares (1,146,900 acres). Between 31 March 1980 and 31 December 1980 it is expected that the purchase of 570 hectares (1,400 acres) will be completed, although this is likely to be more than offset by the disposal of surplus assets.

Of the Commission's total holdings, 83 per cent, is being used for growing trees and 2 per cent, is awaiting planting. The plantations are mainly coniferous, the principal species in order of importance being Sitka spruce, Scots pine, Norway spruce and larch. Broad-leaved trees are grown where conditions are suitable; the main species are beech and oak.

Northern Ireland Agriculture Industry

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will publish in the Official Report the structural proposals to benefit agriculture in Northern Ireland which he intends to put before the Council of Ministers.

It will be the Commission, not myself, which will be making these proposals and putting them before the Council of Ministers. These will be available to the House in the usual way.

Apples and Pears

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will list the amounts of apples and pears taken into intervention during the last 12 months in the United Kingdom and for each EEC country, giving the proportion destroyed in each case.

The following table shows the information available in mid-May on withdrawals since 1 July 1979. The proportions destroyed are not yet known. WITHDRAWALS ( tonnes; ) Apples Pears United Kingdom 8,330 3,429 Belgium 67,240 3,892 Denmark — — FRG 98,000 270 France 83,000 7,043 Ireland 1,100 — Italy 70,530 19,000 Luxembourg — — Netherlands 112,000 14,220

Beef Imports

asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what increase there has been in the import of beef from the Republic of Ireland following the EEC's decision to suspend intervention buying between April and August of the current year.

The Commission's proposal to suspend entirely intervention buying of beef for part of the year has not, in the event, been adopted by the Council of Ministers.