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Volume 989: debated on Monday 28 July 1980

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 22 July 1980

Employment

Kirklees

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many young people under the age of 18 years are currently registered as unemployed in the South Kirklees area; and how does this compare with the numbers for the same period in 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979.

Following is the information for the Huddersfield employment office area, which covers the southern part of the Kirklees metropolitan district:

July 19761,030
July 19771,108
July 19781,079
July 19791,158
July 19801,827
(provisional)

Liquid Petroleum Gas Pipeline (Canvey Island)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether representations have been made by the British Gas Corporation to the Health and Safety Executive to reactivate the liquid petroleum gas pipeline from Canvey Island, which was closed down for safety reasons at the time of the Canvey investigation; what reasons have been given for recommissioning the pipeline; and whether he will give an assurance that no approval will be given by the Health and Safety Executive until the local authorities concerned have been consulted and the report of the inspector at the recent public inquiry has been received and studied by the Government.

The British Gas Corporation has approached the Health and Safety Executive about a scheme to supply a peak load liquefied petroleum gas (LPG) /air plant at Beckton from the methane terminal at Canvey. Plants such as this are desigued to augment natural gas with a suitable mixture of LPG and air in such a way that customers' appliances can still operate safely. Natural gas and LPG would be mixed together at Canvey, and the mixture, which would be lighter than air, would be transmitted to Beckton via a gas main.

British Gas would obtain the LPG (butane) from the Shell refinery. Only that part of the former Canvey to Beckton and Romford pipeline which is between the number 1 gate of the refinery and the methane terminal would be recommissioned.

The Health and Safety Executive is considering the matter and has requested further information from British Gas and will be consulting the local authorities concerned before advising whether or not the proposal is acceptable on health and safety grounds.

The Executive will have to be satisfied as to the safety of this restored length of pipeline; it expects, however, to be able to come to a decision on this without awaiting the publication of the report of the inspector who conducted the recent inquiry.

Unfair Dismissal (Compensation)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what would be the figure to which the maximum payment of £3,600 under the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978 would have to be increased to maintain its purchasing power at present day prices.

I assume that the hon. Member is referring to the maximum redundancy payment payable under schedule 14 paragraph 8 (1) (c), of the Employment Protection (Consolidation) Act 1978, as amended by the Employment Protection (Variation of Limits) Orders 1978 and 1979. This payment is calculated on a weekly earnings limit which is subject to annual review and which was last increased on 1 February 1980 from £110 to £120. Under schedule 4, paragraph 3, of the Act the maximum redundancy payment is for 20 years' service at 1½ weeks' pay subject to the limit of £120, that is £3,600. If the maximum were now to be increased in line with the increase in the retail prices index from February to June 1980 it would rise by 7 per cent. to £3,850. The Government will be reviewing the limits again in the autumn.

Unemployment Rates

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what is the percentage rate of unemployment in the Leigh travel-to-work area to the latest available date; and what were the figures for May 1979 and August 1979 respectively;(2) what is the percentage rate of unemployment in the St. Helens travel-to-work area to the latest available date; and what were the figures for May 1979 and August 1979, respectively;(3) what is the percentage rate of unemployment in the Irlam employment office area to the latest available date; and what were the figures for May 1979 and August 1979, respectively;(4) what is the percentage rate of unemployment in the Warrington travel-

May 1979 Per centAugust 1979 Per centJuly 1980* Per cent
Leigh travel-to-work area5·76·4101
St. Helens employment office area7·88·911·4
Manchester travel-to-work area (which includes the Irlam employment office area)5·25·97·9
Warrington travel-to-work area (which includes the Newton-le-Willows employment office area5·06·78·6
* Provisional

Industrial Retraining

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will show the total number of Government industrial retraining centre places in each planning region of Great Britain; and if

RegionNumber of Skillcentre places%of workforce%of unemployed
Scotland17990·091·00
Wales14490·141·70
Northern19360·151·64
North West21230·081·07
Yorks and Humbs14080·071·20
Midlands27610·071·38
South West11860·081·27
London and South East (incl. E. Anglia)51400·061·72

"Fit For Work" Campaign

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the cost in a full financial year of the Government's "Fit for Work" campaign; how many people have been found work by the campaign; and what is the estimated saving in unemployment and other benefits brought about by their employment.

I am advised by the Manpower Services Commission that during the financial year 1979–80, which included the launch of the campaign, expenditure was £491,214. Expenditure in to-work area and the Newton-le-Willows employment office area to the latest available date; and what were the figures in May 1979 and August 1979, respectively.

The following table gives the available information.Unemployment rates are calculated only for complete travel-to-work areas and employment office areas outside travel-to-work areas. They are not available separately, therefore, for Irlam and Newton-le-Willows which are parts of the Manchester and Warrington travel-to-work areas, respectively.he will express the number of training places as a percentage of both the total insured work force and the total unemployed in each planning region.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the information is as set out below:the current financial year is expected to be in the region of some £170,000.It is not possible to say how many disabled people have been found work as a direct result of the campaign, although the right hon. Member may like to know that the proportion of disabled people among the unemployed population is now somewhat lower than it was when the campaign started in September last year.The campaign is aimed at influencing attitudes towards all aspects of employing disabled people, whether they are seeking work or already in work but whose potential may not be used to the full.

This will be a long process, but the impression of employers' immediate reactions has been encouraging.

Unemployed Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many adults and young people have been unemployed for (a) one year and (b) two years in: (i) Gosport and (ii) the United Kingdom as a whole, giving the figures in numbers and percentages.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many disabled

(i) REGISTERED DISABLED PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED IN GOSPORT
Total unemployedUnemployed for more than one yearUnemployed for more than two years
Adults4610 (21·7%)6 (13·0%)
Young people
Total4610 (21·7%)6 (13·0%)
(ii) REGISTERED DISABLED PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED IN GREAT BRITAIN
Total unemployedUnemployed for more than one yearUnemployed for more than two two years
Adults5897133701 (57·1%)23778 (40·3%)
Young people1049130 (12·4%)24 (2·3%)
Total6002033831 (56·4%)23802 (39·6%)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of the total unemployed on the basis of the most recent available monthly figures were (a) textile workers, (b) construction industry workers and (c) construction industry craftsmen; and what were the numbers in each group.

At 8 May, the latest date for which an industrial analysis is available the number of people registered as unemployed in Great Britain whose last employment was in the textiles industries was 34,985, representing 2–4 per cent. of the total unemployed.The corresponding figure for construction comprised 47,122 craftsmen and 142,432 other construction workers. These represented 3–3 and 9–9 per cent. respectively of the total unemployed.

adults and young people ( a) are unemployed, ( b) have been unemployed for more than one year and ( c) have been unemployed for more than two years: (i) in Gosport and (ii) in the United Kingdom as a whole, giving the figures in numbers and percentages.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the information is not available in precisely the form requested. Statistics relating to duration of unemployment amongst disabled people are currenly available only for adults and young people who are registered as disabled in Great Britain. This information is set out below. Figures are for January 1980, the latest date available.

Scaffolders (Training)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many scaffolders have been recruited so far to the scaffolders record scheme operated by the Construction Industry Training Board; and what was the cost to public funds of enrolling each scaffolder.

Liverpool Inner Employment Office

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he has any plans to visit the Liverpool inner employment office.

At present my right hon. Friend has no plans to visit either the employment office at Leece Street or the jobcentre at Williamson Square.

Merseyside

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will make a statement on the recent unemployment figures for Merseyside and how these compare with May 1979.

At 10 July 1980 the provisional number registered as unemployed in the Merseyside special development area was 107,534 compared with 83,371 at 10 May 1979. Both figures include school leavers and are not adjusted for seasonal variation. The July 1980 figure includes a higher proportion of school leavers than the May 1979 total.I am naturally concerned about serious unemployment on Merseyside. Until inflation is brought down increases in unemployment levels are inevitable. In the meantime, Merseyside is retaining its special development area status so that employers setting up there and creating new jobs will be entitled to the highest level of assistance available under the Industry Act.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the last number of unemployed school leavers in the Liverpool travel-to-work area; and what are the figures as a percentage.

July 1980 (provisional)May 1979
Liverpool travel-to-work area
 At employment offices1,2142,406
 At careers offices671
Merseyside Special Development Area
 At employment offices1,9944,019
 At careers offices44152

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report the number of unemployed young people on Merseyside at the latest date; and what these figures are as a percentage of the total.

At 10 July the provisional number of young people under 20 years of age registered as unemployed in the Merseyside special development area was 30,549. This figure represented 28–4 per cent. of the total unemployed in the area.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many construction workers are registered as unemployed.

At 10 July the provisional number of school leavers under 18 years of age registered as unemployed in the Liverpool travel-to-work area was 8,954, representing 12–7 per cent. of the total unemployed in the area.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) what are the numbers of job vacancies for unemployed school leavers in (a) the Liverpool travel-to-work area and (b) Merseyside at the latest date;(2) what are the total numbers of job vacancies on (a) Merseyside and (

b) the Liverpool travel-to-work area at the latest date; and how these figures compare with May 1979.

The following table gives the numbers of notified vacancies remaining unfilled at employment offices and careers offices in the Liverpool travel-to-work area and in the Merseyside special development area at 4 July 1980 and 4 May 1979. The statistics do not distinguish vacancies which are specifically for school leavers. Vacancies notified to employment offices are estimated to be about one-third of all vacancies in the country as a whole. Because of possible duplication the figures for employment offices and careers offices should not be added together.employed on Merseyside at the latest available date; and how these compare with May 1979.

At 8 May 1980, the latest date for which an industrial analysis of the unemployed is available, the number of people registered as unemployed in the Merseyside special development area who last worked in the construction industry was 12,440. The corresponding figure at 10 May 1979 was 10,781.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies have taken place on Merseyside since May 1979; and if he will list them in the industries concerned.

The information in the form requested is not available. However, I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that 325 separate instances of redundancies involving 10 or more workers were notified as due to occur in Merseyside between June 1979 and June 1980. The total number of workers affected was 16,987. To analyse the information by industry could be done only at disproportionate public expense.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans the Government have to seek to reduce unemployment in the construction industry on Merseyside; and if he will make a statement.

In the longer term the measures we are taking to stimulate the economy offer the best hope for improving employment prospects in construction, as in other industries.More immediately, prospects will depend on the industry's response to the various measures the Government is taking to facilitate development. These include:plans to regulate local authority direct labour organisations to restrict unfair competition from the public sector;increased land availability;streamlining of planning and building control procedures;measures to promote home ownership.

Special Development AreaNumbers unemployed in constructionPercentage of total unemployed
Falmouth and Redruth44410·9
Merseyside12,44013·6
North-East15,26118·0
West Cumberland63412·9
North-East Wales1,24910·1
North-West Wales1,14220·9
South Wales3,94216·2

Disabled Persons

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish estimates of the percentage unemployment rate among disabled people by adding together his Department's figures for the number of unemployed disabled people both registered and unregistered and expressing this figure as a percentage of his Department's estimates of the number of disabled people in the labour force who

The Government's proposals for an urban development corporation for the disused docks areas of Merseyside should bring particular benefits to the construction industry in the area.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what plans the Government have to seek to reduce unemployment among school leavers on Merseyside.

The Government's economic policies are designed to bring down inflation and create an economic climate in which investment and growth will create more jobs. In the meantime, the Government have agreed to expand the youth opportunities programme on Merseyside by 25 per cent. in 1980–81.

Construction Workers

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many construction workers are unemployed in the special development areas in England and Wales at the latest date; and if he will give a percentage in each area.

The following table gives for 8 May, the latest date for which an industrial analysis of the unemployed is available, the numbers of people registered as unemployed in the areas specified who last worked in the construction industry and expresses the numbers as percentages of the total unemployed in these areas.have a handicap measurable in financial terms.

Small Businesses (Closures)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many small businesses have notified his Department of closure since May 1979; and how many workers were involved.

The information requested is not available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

School Leavers (Bolton)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) how many school leavers are registered as unemployed in the Bolton area; and what was the figure in mid-July 1979;(2) how many registered vacancies for jobs suitable for school leavers there are in the Bolton area; and what was the figure in mid-July 1979.

St Fergus Gas Terminal

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if, in view of the tribunal finding in favour of the test case regarding the 290 employees dismissed from their jobs at St. Fergus gas terminal, he will ensure that they are paid benefit without delay.

Graduates (Wages)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list, for the last three years, the average annual wage for graduates in their first-time employment (a) in all occupations, (b) in the legal profession and (c) in the accountancy profession.

There are no official statistics on the wages either of all graduates in their first-time employment or of graduates in the legal or accountancy professions.

Wage Levels

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will estimate how many people currently in full-time employment receive gross wages of £3–60 per day or less; and if he will state that figure as a percentage of the total number of people in full-time employment.

The evidence from official surveys suggests that there are no full-time employees with gross earnings at a daily rate of £3.60—equivalent to a weekly rate of £18 for a five day week—or less.

Ethnic Minorities (Birmingham)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report the evidence for the statement contained in his answer to an oral question, Official Report, 22 July, column 253, that the ethnic minorities for Birmingham, Handsworth, represent about 50 per cent. of the population.

Public Enterprise

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proportion of total United Kingdom employment was represented by State (public) enterprise including the National Enterprise Board and its subsidiaries in 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979.

Following is the information readily available:

EMPLOYEES IN PUBLIC CORPORATIONS AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL EMPLOYED LABOUR FORCE, UNITED KINGDOM AT EACH MID-YEAR
197680
19778·4
19788·3
19798·3
Most of the aerospace and shipbuilding industries were nationalised in 1977, resulting in the transfer of about 150,000 employees (0 6 per cent. of the employed labour force) to the public corporations sector from the private sector.The figures include employees of the National Enterprise Board but not its subsidiary companies, which are treated as part of the companies sector in the national accounts.

Manchester

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what detailed steps he is taking to provide alternative employment for those in the Manchester area who lost their jobs between the publication of the last two sets of monthly unemployment figures.

Retail Price Index

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, as derv affects the cost of living, as indicated, if he will include it as a factor for calculating the retail price index.

[pursuant to his reply, 18 July 1980, c. 636]: I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to him on 22 July.—[Vol. 989, c. 152–53.]

Maryport

asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he intends to announce the findings of the Manpower Services Commission inquiry into the job creation programme activity in Maryport.

[pursuant to his reply, 24 July 1980, c. 306]: I shall write to the hon. Member.

Short-Time Working

asked the Secreretary of State for Employment what is the latest figure for the number of people on short-time working.

[pursuant to his reply, 25 July 1980, c. 409]: During the week ended 19 April 1980, the latest period for which information is available, 156,400 operatives in manufacturing industries in Great Britain were on short-time working, either for the whole or for part of the week.

Overseas Development

St Helena

asked the Lord Privy Seal what tonnage of fish was exported from St. Helena in each of the last 10 years; and what help has been given to improve the fishing industries of the colony.

Prior to 1979, when 64 tonnes were exported, there were no significant exports of fish from St. Helena. Sixty eight tonnes have been exported so far this year. It is anticipated that a further 10 tonnes will be exported by the end of the year. In addition to the help described by my hon. Friend the Member for Cirencester and Tewkesbury (Mr. Ridley) in his reply of 11 Dec- ember 1979—[Vol. 975, c. 561]—the island has also received vehicles to enable it to establish an island-wide fish retail delivery system.

Zambia

asked the Lord Privy Seal what was the total value of the aid given by the United Kingdom to Zambia during each of the financial years 1977–78, 1978–79 and 1979–80.

Total gross expenditure on United Kingdom aid to Zambia was:

£ million
1977–781978–791979–80 (provisional)
14·41434·56234·442
The figure for 1978–79 includes the £20 million payment made from the aid programme in respect of the United Kingdom/Zambia 1978 copper purchase arrangements.

Members Of Parliament (Salaries)

asked the Prime Minister whether, in view of the changed circumstances resulting from the 23 per cent. increase in Post Office wages settled within two days of the House setting an example of wage and salary restraint by reducing the proposed independent award to hon. Members to 9.6 per cent., she will now review the situation on Members of Parliament's salaries.

No. Members of this House expressed their views on this subject when they voted on Monday 21 July to increase their pay by 9.6 per cent.

Official Travel

asked the Prime Minister whether she will set up an investigation into the extent of official travel abroad by Ministers and their officials, to ascertain whether, in accordance with the Government's policy of reducing public expenditure, such travel costs can be reduced to the level which obtained in May 1979.

The existing arrangements ensure that official travel abroad by Ministers and their officials is justified.

Mobility Of Labour(Housing)

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied that when Welsh people move in search of work there will be adequate housing available for them in the new areas.

We are helping those who need to move for employment reasons through a range of measures in the Housing Bill, including: the introduction of shorthold; the right for public sector tenants to sublet and to take in lodgers; measures to make it easier for owner-occupiers to let part of their homes; a provision to ensure that local authorities can make short-term accommodation available for up to a year to those moving into their areas for employment reasons; a new power for the Government to make a financial contribution to mobility schemes; the right for public sector tenants to buy their homes; measures which will help other first-time buyers, such as shared ownership, improvement for sale, and powers for local authorities to guarantee building society mortgages for the purchase of cheaper properties.

Jute Industry (Dundee)

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement on the state of the jute industry in Dundee; and if she will introduce a policy of selective import controls to assist it.

The Dundee jute industry is going through a very difficult phase, and there has been a sharp fall in employment. However, I am well aware of the importance of the industry to the area. Our imports of the most sensitive jute products from India and Bangladesh, the major supplying countries, are already subject to import controls, or to potential controls, under agreements with the European Community.

Overseas Students(Fees)

asked the Prime Minister if she will make a statement regarding discussions on overseas student fees which she recently had with the Foreign Minister of Nigeria.

Professor Audu told me of Nigeria's need for technical education and of the expertise which the United Kingdom could offer. He also made a general reference to the education of Nigerians in Britain, and hoped that the present difficulties in this field would prove temporary.

Paye Computer Project(Mr Quayle)

asked the Prime Minister what reply she has sent to the letter to her dated 22 July with regard to the pay-as-you-earn computer project from Mr. A. M. Quayle, of 8 Kirk Road, Lever-hulme, Manchester M19 2RF.

Foreign Andcommonwealth Affairs

Diplomatic Immunity

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will make representations to those organisations whose representatives enjoy immunity in the United Kingdom that they should none the less obey the laws of the United Kingdom.

I am always prepared, if necessary, to take up specific allegations of misuse of immunity, but I am not currently aware of any allegations relating to international organisations.

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will seek to change the titles to statutory instruments which grant diplomatic immunity from "international immunities and privileges" to their previous title of "diplomatic and international immunities and privileges".

No. Virtually all instruments made under this heading relate to international organisations and confer immunities which are very much more limited than those accorded to diplomatic missions. I agree, therefore, with the view of the editor of the Index to Government Orders that the heading should begin with the word "international" rather than "diplomatic" as that is the word the majority of users would be likely to turn to when seeking information on these organisations from the index.

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he will list those international European or other organisations any or all of whose repressentatives in the United Kingdom are accorded immunity; how many representatives of each such organisation, how many persons employed by such organisations, and how many members of the families of such persons enjoy such immunity; and what is the extent of such immunity in each such case.

Listed below are the organisations to which the representatives of member States have limited immunity when they are in the United Kingdom on official business related to the work of the organisations. Only a few such representatives come here from time to time, since much of the work in connection with these organisations is handled by diplomatic missions in London.Those organisations marked with an asterisk in the list employ a total of 1,129 persons in the United Kingdom, who have immunity only in repect of their official acts. The head officers of 11 of those organisations have additional immunity comparable to that of diplomatic agents. Members of the families of all such staff—including the head officers—have no immunity.Those organisations without an asterisk employ no staff in the United Kingdom, but staff who may occasionally visit the United Kingdom on official business would have immunity only in respect of their official acts. * Inter-governmental Maritime Consultative Organisation (IMCO)

  • * International Wheat Council (IWC)
  • * International Coffee Organisation (ICO)
  • * International Sugar Organisation (ISO)
  • * Eurocontrol
  • Caribbean Development Bank (CDB)
  • European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN)
  • International Hydrographic Organisation (IHO)
  • * International Tin Council (ITC)
  • Interim Commission for the International Trade Organisation (ICITO)
  • International Institute for the Management of Technology (IIMT)
  • Asian Development Bank (ADB)
  • Customs Co-operation Council (CCC)
  • European Molecular Biology Laboratory
  • International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)
  • * North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO)
  • Organisation for European Co-operation and Development (OECD)
  • World Intellectual Property Organisation (WIPO)
  • * United Nations, International Court of Justice, and UN Specialised Agencies
  • * European Centre for Medium Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF)
  • * International Cocoa Organisation (ICCO)
  • * International Whaling Commission (IWC)
  • * Inter-American Development Bank (IDB)
  • International Fund for Agricultural Development (IFAD)
  • International Monetary Fund (IMF)
  • European Patent Office (EPO)
  • * International Rubber Study Group (IRSG)
  • European Space Agency (ESA)
  • * International Lead and Zinc Study Group (ILZSG)
  • International Telecommunications Satellite Organisation (INTELSAT)
  • * International Oil Pollution Compensation Fund
  • * Oslo and Paris Commissions
  • * International Maritime Satellite Organisation (INMARSAT)
  • * Commission of the European Communities
  • * Council of Europe
  • * European Investment Bank
  • * European Parliament
  • * Joint European Torus
  • * International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD)
  • * International Finance Corporation (IFC)
  • International Development Association (IDA)
  • * Western European Union (WEU)
  • International Centre for the Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID)
  • African Development Fund

Gibraltar

asked the Lord Privy Seal what further plans he has to safeguard Gibraltar and its independence now that Spain has refused to agree to the recent proposals over Gibraltar; and if he will make a statement.

There is no change in the Government's commitment to the people of Gibraltar, which was reaffirmed in the Lisbon agreement of 10 April. Despite the delay over the re-establishment of direct communications between Gibraltar and Spain, I have been assured that the Spanish Government's commitment to the agreement remains.

Polisario Front

asked the Lord Privy Seal, on the basis of the outcome of the Organisation of African Unity meeting that the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic gained the 22 votes necessary for the admission of a country to the Organisation of African Unity, if her Majesty's Government will now recognise the Polisario Front.

No. Her Majesty's Government's policy towards the Western Sahara dispute is one of neutrality. While we hope for a peaceful solution, we consider that it is a regional matter which may be best settled regionally. We understand that the Organishation of African Unity is still considering the issue.

Iran (American Hostages)

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether the proclaimed solidarity of the Nine EEC Governments in calling upon Iran to free the American diplomats held hostage has been followed up by joint action to bring pressure to bear which is likely to be effective.

The Nine, together with other Western countries, have taken a series of political and economic measures, the details of which are already well known to the House. These measures are designed to show the Iranian authorities that there are real penalties for continuing to hold the hostages. It is impossible to guage the exact effect of such action, but we intend to maintain the pressure.

Libyan People's Bureau

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many people are at present on the staff of the Libyan People's Bureau and resident in London; what are their names; and what duties they carry out in the United Kingdom.

The 18 persons listed below on the staff of the People's Bureau of the Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya have been notified, with the designations shown, to the Foreign and Commonwealth Office in accordance with the Vienna convention on diplomatic relations as members of the diplomatic or of the administrative and technical staff. No other persons working at the People's Bureau have yet been similarly notified.

  • Mr. E. A. Ajaj: 2nd Secretary
  • Mr. S. E. M. Msallem: 1st Secretary
  • Mr. A. A. Elkezza: Financial Counsellor
  • Mr. M. K. Benhamed: Financial Counsellor
  • Mr. A. M. Azzabi: Financial Counsellor
  • Mr. E. Elshamis: Financial Counsellor
  • Mr. M. Shugman: Administrative Attaché
  • Mr. T. M. El Haggi: Financial Attaché
  • Mr. R. M. Sagher: Technical Attaché
  • Mr. S. M. Rihan: Financial Attaché
  • Mr. M. I. Elmisurati: Administrative Attaché
  • Mr. O. K. Gleza: Financial Officer
  • Mr. N. E. Elgawi: Financial Officer
  • Mr. S. M. Shueb: Financial Officer
  • Mr. M. A. Elwerfelli: Administrative Officer
  • Mr. M. M. Jabri: Archivist
  • Mr. N. Imsalam: Cultural Counsellor
  • Mr. A. Larbarsh: Financial Counsellor

New Hebrides

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will now announce the final balance of the aid package for the New Hebrides which has been agreed between himself and the French Government.

Unlike us, the French Government do not enter into aid agreements until after independence has taken place. We nevertheless have a general understanding of the areas which we are each prepared to support. The New Hebrides Government have not yet signified their agreement to our own aid package.

asked the Lord Privy Seal what agreement has now been made with the Government of Papua New Guinea for the replacement of the British Marines by Papua-New Guinea troops in the New Hebrides.

Her Majesty's Government have not entered into any agreement with the Government of Papua New Guinea on this subject.

European Community

European Development

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether Her Majesty's Government subscribe to Council of Europe recommendation 861 of 1979, which proposes that the Council of Europe's programme of inter-governmental activities be adapted so as to make a better response to the requirement of more balanced European development

The recommendation was discussed at the 66th session of the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe held in Lisbon on 10th April. The final communiqué contained the following relevant passage:

"With regard to balanced development in Europe the Ministers decided that the Council should henceforth play a more active role as an instrument of European democratic solidarity in order to reduce the economic and social imbalances between member states.
To this end the Ministers were in favour of making greater use of the medium-erm plan of inter-governmental activities of the Council of Europe and reinforcing the Resettlement Fund, while not excluding examination of other means".

Resettlement Fund

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether Her Majesty's Government will seek to strengthen the resettlement fund for national refugees and overpopulation and to gear its activity to the social development of Southern European countries, as suggested in Council of Europe recommendation 861.

The United Kingdom does not contribute to the resettlement fund and is therefore not in a position to influence its activities.

Civil Service

Pay Research Unit

asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will review alternatives to the Civil Service Pay Research Unit; and if he will make a statement.

There are no present plans for such a review. But the Government are concerned that the pay research system should operate as tightly and impartially as possible, and we are pursuing a number of possible improvements.

Departmental Costs

asked the Minister for the Civil Service if she will give for her Department, and so far as possible for each of its associated public bodies, the cost of foreign travel, including accommodation and subsistence and entertainment by Ministers and civil servants, the cost of shorthand typists and the cost of non-employee advisers, on a similar basis to the categories of Select Committee expenditure included in the Estimates of the House of Commons, Class XIII-A and itemised in the reply of the right hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Mr. Bottomley) to the hon. Member for Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat), Official Report, 9 July, c. 212.

The estimated expenditure in the financial year 1980–81 by the Civil Service Department, including the Civil Service Pay Research Unit, on the lines of the categories itemised in the reply from the right hon. Member for Middlesbrough, is as follows:

£
(1) Foreign travel by Ministers170,000
(2) Foreign travel by civil servants100,000
(3) United Kingdom travel by Ministers30,000
(4) United Kingdom travel by civil servants862,000
(5) Entertainment by Ministers7,500
(6) Entertainment by civil servants14,000
(7) Salaries and wages of secretaries and typists1,665,000
(8) Cost of non-employee advisers18,000
 (a) Including accommodation and subsistence.

Civil Servants

asked the Minister for the Civil Service if, in view of the uncertainty expressed by some civil servants over their future, and the necessity for reductions in public expenditure, he will consider commissioning an independent inquiry into the number of civil servants required to ensure the efficient running of Departments.

Ministers are already examining the numbers of civil servants required for the efficient running of their Departments in accordance with the statement on the efficiency and size of the Civil Service which my right hon. Friend the Prime Minister made to the House on 13 May. I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his valuable suggestion, but do not think that an independent inquiry would be the best way of looking at this problem.

National Finance

Fringe Benefits (Taxation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will now consider increasing tax payable on the following fringe benefits: private health insurance, payment of public school fees, free holidays, low interest loans and company flats.

These benefits are already taxable in full—subject to a de minimis limit for low interest loans—in the hands of directors and higher-paid employees, and, in the case of private medical insurance, company flats and—if provided by means of vouchers—free holidays, lower-paid employees as well.

As my right hon and learned Friend announced in his Budget Statement, the Inland Revenue is consulting employers and others about the problems involved in making fringe benefits as a whole taxable on all employees, whether higher paid or not.

Personal Taxation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish a table

THRESHOLD AT WHICH INCOME TAX ON EARNED INCOMES BECOMES PAYABLE AT 50 PER CENT.
Single £Married couple single-wage £Married couple with two children single-wage £
United Kingdom18,12618,89618,896
USA (Note 2)17,86026,05026,890
(10,290)(15,570)(15,570)
France (Note 3)43,89043,89043,890
Germany15,06029,72030,010
Japan (Note 2)46,75047,37048,630
(25,180)(25,800)(27,360)

Notes:

1. Conversions to sterling were made at the exchange rates prevailing on 14 July 1980. Such conversions may not reflect differences in purchasing power between sterling and other currencies.

2. Figures in brackets include local taxes. For the USA the rate taken is the Californian rate and, for the married and married plus two children, the threshold quoted is for a tax rate of 48 per cent. For Japan, the local rate used is that applying for the majority of the population. The thresholds shown for Japan are for a tax rate of 49–5 per cent. without local taxes, and 51–3 per cent. with them.

3. For France, the effects of a ceiling on both the minimum expenses deduction and the employment income relief mean that, for single people and childless married couples, there is an abrupt rise in marginal rates from 43–2 per cent. to 60 per cent. The thresholds shown refer to a rate of 60 per cent.; for a 43–2 per cent. rate the thresholds would be £19,330 for single people and £38,170 for childless married couples.

4. Personal reliefs, minimum expenses deductions, employment income relief and other flat rate reliefs have been taken into account, as have deductible social security contributions. Child benefits have been ignored.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will update the reply given to the hon. Member for Norfolk, South (Mr. MacGregor), Official Report, 24 July 1978, c. 502. showing the percentage of earnings absorbed by income tax and employees'

PERCENTAGE OF EARNINGS ABSORBED BY INCOME TAX AND EMPLOYEE'S SOCIAL SECURITY CONTRIBUTIONS
Average United Kingdom earnings (£6,245)2 X average United Kingdom earnings (£12,490)3 X average United Kingdom earnings (£18,735)
Per annumPer annumPer annum
United Kingdom26·528·733·4
France12·415·419·2
Germany25·425·229·2
United States of America14·3 (15·6)21·7 (25·5)27·0 (32·9)
Japan10·1 (11·9)12·9 (18·1)16·1 (23·5)

Unemployment Costs

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of the social service costs directly showing gross income in £ sterling equivalent at which income tax on earned incomes becomes payable at 50 per cent. in each of the United Kingdom, the United States of America, France, Germany and Japan, and for each of a single person, a single-wage married couple, and a single-wage couple with two children.

The information requested is given in the table below:social security contributions at different levels of earnings, in each of the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the United States of America and Japan.

The information requested is as follows:borne by central Government in 1979 as a result of unemployment; and what is his estimate of the effect of these costs, together with the loss of national insurance and tax revenue on the public sector borrowing requirement for the period in question.

I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave to the hon. Member for Blackburn (Mr. Straw) on 24 July 1980.—[Vol. 989, c. 758.]

North Sea Oil (Economic Effect)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what effect the increase in the price and volume of North Sea oil has had on the terms of trade since 1976 in the case of (a) manufacturers, (b) foodstuffs and (c) all goods and services;(2) what is his estimate of the likely improvement in terms of trade for (

a) manufactures, (6) foodstuffs and (c) all goods and services as a result of the increase in the price and volume of North Sea oil in 1980, 1981, 1982 and 1983.

It is not possible to distinguish the influence of North Sea oil from the various other influences on the terms of trade.

Charities (Disabled Persons)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the cost in a full financial year of the assistance given to charities directly concerned with help for disabled people announced in the Budget.

Value Added Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated increase in revenue in a full financial year (a) in total and (b) derived from registered disabled people as a result of raising value added tax from 8 to 15 per cent.

For an estimate of the total increase in revenue in a full financial year as a result of raising value added tax in the June 1979 Budget I refer the hon. Member to the 1979–80 Financial Statement and Budget Report. It is not possible to calculate the additional revenue derived from registered disabled people because their expenditure is not known.

Motability (Car Taxation)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his estimate of total value added tax receipts on purchase and lease of cars leased by Motability in the 12 months (a) before 18 June 1979 and (b) after 18 June 1979; and what is the net loss to the revenue in the current financial year of charging only 15 per cent. on the lease as opposed to 8 per cent. on both lease and purchase.

Such information as is available is as follows:

£ thousand
VAT on purchase of vehiclesVAT on rentals
Year to 30 June 197940085
Year to 30 June 1980500
It is estimated that the loss to the revenue of charging only 15 per cent. on the lease as opposed to 8 per cent. on both lease and purchase in the year ended 30 June 1980 was about £425,000. An estimate for the current financial year is not available.

Travel-To-Work Costs

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer why the use of publicly provided cars between home and office by Ministers and civil servants is free of tax while warrants for travel between home and work are taxable.

I shall let the right hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

Married Women (Earnings)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) in what circumstances the Inland Revenue still pays rebates due in respect of a wife's income to her husband; and if he will take action to ensure that such rebates are paid to the wife direct in future;(2) in what circumstances does the Inland Revenue correspond about a married woman's tax affairs by writing to her husband; and if he will take action to ensure that in future all communications concerning a married woman's tax affairs are addressed directly to her.

Company Taxation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the effective tax paid by the top 25 and top 100 manufacturing companies, respectively, in absolute terms, since 1974.

Corporation Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what has been the effective corporation tax paid by the top 25 and top 100 manufacturing companies since 1974 as a proportion of the nominal tax payable;(2) what was the level of effective corporation tax, namely, the tax actually paid by corporations, as (

a) a proportion of the nominal tax and ( b) as a proportion of gross domestic product in 1948, 1958, 1968 and 1978;

(3) what proportion of the rebate against corporation tax was represented by ( a) investment grants, ( b) regional employment premia, (c) depreciation allowances and ( d) relief against stock appreciation in the respective years 1968 and 1978.

Personal Incomes

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proportion of personal wealth was represented by the top 2 per cent., 5 per cent., 10 per cent. and 20 per cent. of the British population, respectively, since 1951, 1961, 1971, and 1979, respectively.

Nationalised Industries

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what proportion of the net increase in borrowing from Government and capital transfer was represented by the nine major nationalised industries, British Airways, British Gas, the British Steel Corporation, the electricity industry, the Post Office, the National Bus Company, the National Freight Corporation, British Railways and the National Coal Board in 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979; and what proportion of the net increase in other borrowing was represented by these industries in these years;(2) what has been the annual rate of price increase of the United Kingdom nationalised industries and services, including the National Enterprise Board subsidiaries, since 1974 in relation to the annual rate of price increase of private industry and services, respectively;(3) what has been the net contribution of the nationalised industries to the Exchequer and the reduction of the public sector borrowing requirement, respectively, since 1974.(4) what has been the cost of the nationalised industries to the public sector borrowing requirement since 1974.

Investment Funds

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the proportion of the outflow of investment funds accounted by investment abroad in (a) industry, (b) property, (c) financial services and (d) other investment since the abolition of exchange controls.

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the net outflow of investment funds by quarter since the liberalisation of exchange controls.

Capital outflows since the dismantling of exchange controls are estimated to have been running at about £1 billion a quarter, the greater part representing repayment of foreign currency debt by United Kingdom companies. Overseas purchases of sterling assets over the same period have more than offset these outflows.

Prices And Money Supply

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what has been the correlation between the rate of increase of aggregate prices and the rate of increase of money supply M3 since 1974.

Equity Capital

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proportion of the equity capitalisation of (a) industrial companies, (b) financial sector companies and (c) non-financial sector companies has been provided by trades union pensions funds since 1974.

State Enterprises

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what was the total value added of State (public) enterprise as a proportion of United Kingdom value added in 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979.

Gross Capital Formation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what proportion of gross capital formation was represented by State (public) enterprise, including new established corporations and the National Enterprise Board and its subsidiaries in 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979.

National Museums Council

25.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will restructure the existing Standing Commission on museums and galleries to form a new National Museums Council.

I am considering this and other recommendations of the report by the Standing Commission on museums and galleries, but it will, I think, take some time before I shall be able to announce a decision.

Ethnic Art(Government Assistance)

29.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how much Government assistance is being given to ethnic art.

Within my field of responsibility many libraries, museums and arts bodies have a strong interest in ethnic art. The Arts Council estimates that it spent about £¼ million in this area in 1979–80.

Railway Engines (Barry)

30.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will make a statement on progress made towards retaining some of the railway engines at Woodham scrapyard, Barry, for the national heritage.

I understand that the National Railway museum has agreed to set up a working party to examine the locomotives at Barry and to consider which of the remaining ones might warrant preservation or provide valuable spare parts.

Works Of Art(Capital Gains Tax)

31.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether, in view of the Select Committee recommendation that some change should be made in the administrative mechanism for the interpretation of the statutory requirement of pre-eminence when works of art and museum objects are accepted in satisfaction of capital transfer tax, he now has any statement to make regarding his policy on this matter.

I have almost completed the consultations that I have been holding on this important matter. I hope to make a statement before the House rises.

Galleries (Expenditure Ofpublic Funds)

32.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster why he will not seek powers to control large expenditures of public funds by galleries in the United Kingdom which receive public support so as to prevent public funds being spent to the extent of £2½ million on a Rubens painting, as recently happened with the National Gallery.

The purchase grants made available to national museums and galleries are already subject to the approval of Parliament.

Departmental Costs

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will give for his Department, and so far as possible for each of its associated public bodies, the cost of foreign travel, including accommodation and subsistence and entertainment by Ministers and civil servants, the cost of shorthand typists and the cost of non-employee advisers, on a similar basis to the categories of Select Committee expenditure included in the Estimates of the House of Commons, Class XIII-A and itemised in the reply of the right hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Mr. Bottomley) to the hon. Member for Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat), Official Report, 9 July, column 212.

It is not possible to make a separation, in the form requested, for my offices in the Privy Council Office. The estimated salaries and wages for relevant staff amount to £18,550. A sum of £3,000 is estimated to cover all the other items.As regards my responsibility for the arts, the cost of foreign travel will be just under £4,000 and for entertainment, £2,500 in the current year. The items for official shorthand writers and for specialist assistance do not arise in my Departments. I regret that for the museums, galleries and other arts bodies for which I am responsible the information required is not available and could not be obtained without disproportionate expense.

Arts Sponsorship Advisory Committee

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what were the particular qualifications which caused him to appoint two members of the tobacco industry, Mr. Colin Knowles and Mr. Peter Sanguinette, as members of the arts sponsorship advisory committee.

Mr. Knowles is the chairman of the executive committee of the Association for Business Sponsorship of the Arts and Mr. Sanguinetti has had considerable executive experience in developing business sponsorship of the arts.

House Of Commons

Refreshment Facilities

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, in view of the fact that approximately 45,000 pieces of House of Commons crockery have disappeared, if he will now set up an independent inquiry into the whole organisation of the refreshment facilities for Members and staff of the House and strangers.

Works Of Art (Exports)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether, further to his written answers to the hon. Member for Warley, East, Official Report, 26 July 1979, columns 353–54; Official Report, 19 December 1979, columns 205–6; and Official Report, 19 May, columns 36–37; and in view of the fact that the publication of the latest report of the Reviewing Committee on the Export of Works of Art has now been delayed for over a year after the period covered, which ended on 30 June 1979, he will make such changes in the future preparation of these reports as may be necessary to supply Parliament and the public with more up-to-date information on the functioning of this Committee.

Yes. The reviewing committee has already taken steps in recent years to organise its work so as to facilitate the earlier publication of its reports. As the hon. Member knows from my reply on 19 May—[Vol. 985, c. 36–37]—I have received the committee's report for 1978–79, aspects of which I have been considering. Information about the functioning of the committee during the year is provided through the press notices issued by my Department whenever an export licence for a work of art is withheld.

Artists' Resale Rights

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what is the Government's position in relation to the possible harmonisation within the EEC of laws concerning artists' resale rights.

I have been asked to reply. According to its programme for 1980, the Commission of the European Communities intends making a proposal for a directive aimed at the harmonisation of laws on resale rights to ensure payment to artists of a share in any profit made on sales of their works. In pursuit of this objective, the Commission held a meeting in June with representatives of artists, art auctioneers and galleries, but has not yet involved Governments. The subject of resale rights was considered by the Whitford committee on copyright and designs law, which, in its report (Cmnd. 6732), which was issued in 1977, recommended against the introduction of such rights in the United Kingdom. The Government are now examining the subject further in order to take an active part in discussions on any proposals which the Commission may make and in order to deal with it in the Green Paper on copyright reform which is currently being prepared.

Council Of Europe(Cultural Co-Operation)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how much Her Majesty's Government at present contribute to the Council of Europe for European cultural co-operation; and, in the light of recommendation 850 of the Parliamentary Assembly and the reply of the Committee of Ministers, by what extent they would be prepared to increase their contribution for this purpose.

I have been asked to reply.According to the statute of the cultural fund, the grant-in-aid, payable from the general budget of the Council of Europe, is shared among the member States on the basis of the same percentage as their contribution to the budget. Thus the United Kingdom contributes 16–69 per cent. (869,882–80 FFrs in 1980) of the total cost of the cultural fund. In addition, the United Kingdom offers a number of bursaries under the teachers bursary scheme of the Council for Cultural Cooperation.

In view of the division of the costs, there is no question of Her Majesty's Government increasing their own percentage contribution to the fund.

Energy

British Gas Corporation (Deposits)

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will introduce an amendment to the Gas (Consumers' Deposits) (Rate of Interest) Order 1978 to raise the interest payable upon deposits taken by the British Gas Corporation from non-domestic consumers seeking a gas supply for the first time from 7 per cent. to an appropriate rate in the present circumstances.

I shall consider the point raised by my hon. Friend and will write to him in due course.

North Sea Oil (Supply Vessels)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is his estimate of the number of supply vessels, additional to those currently in service, that will be required in relation to development in the Scottish sector of North Sea oil between 1980 and 1990.

It is not possible to forecast over such a time scale the number of supply vessels that will be required on the United Kingdom continental shelf. However, I understand that the current level of demand for these vessels is expected to broadly continue over the next two or three years. This should mean a market for over 100 ships within which the available United Kingdom fleet is likely to remain fully engaged.

Electricity Generation (Orkneyand Shetland)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what representations he has received from the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board about the use of gas for generating electricity in Orkney and Shetland; and what response he has made.

The North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board receives gas from the Flotta terminal in Orkney for electricity generation. I have received no representations from the board about the use of gas for electricity generation in Orkney or Shetland.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what steps he has taken to encourage the use of gas for the generation of electricity in Shetland.

My officials have had discussions with the operators of the pipelines terminating at Sullom Voe about the possible use of gas surplus to the requirements of the terminal when it is fully operational.The operators have provided British Gas with estimates of the possible surplus quantities of gas and the variability of such surpluses. As one possibility, British Gas is discussing with the North of Scotland Hydro-Electric Board the use of the gas for electricity generation.

Coal Production

asked the Secretary of State for Energy what is his estimate of the level of United Kingdom coal production in tonnes by 1984–85.

I have nothing to add to the answer I gave to my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Scunthorpe (Mr. Brown) on 22 July.—[Vol. 989, c. 139.]

North Sea Oil (Licences)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy when the seventh round of oil exploration licences will be issued.

As announced earlier, the closing date for the receipt of applications for licences under the seventh round is noon on 11 August 1980. I hope it will be possible to announce the award of licences before the end of the year.

Oil Production (Hampshire Coastline)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy, after the seventh round of oil exploration licences are issued, what safeguards will be taken to protect the Hampshire coastline when oil production commences.

Those engaged in drilling activities on blocks off the Hampshire coast which may be leased in the seventh round will be expected as elsewhere to use best oilfield practice to minimise any risk of oil spillage. They will also be required to have available at the drilling location a capability to treat oil spillages, if any should nevertheless occur, and resources onshore which could rapidly be made available if necessary to supplement that capability. Discussions are in hand with the United Kingdom Offshore Operators Association to develop existing contingency plans with particular reference to areas close in shore. Should any of this drilling activity lead to the discovery of oil or gas, and proposals for the production of oil from installations close to shore, I would need to be fully satisfied inter alia on both the prevention and contingency planning aspects of oil spills before I gave my consent to such a proposal.

Wales

Factory Building

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what progress has been made in securing private sector finance for factory building by the Welsh Development Agency.

The agency is announcing today that the Norwich Union insurance group has agreed in principle to purchase for £5½ million the 240,000 sq. ft. of factory space which is being built in the Bridgend area as part of the special programme for Port Talbot. Together with the agreement recently announced for the Coal Board pension funds to finance some £3 million-worth of small units, and the sale of a number of existing factories, this means that a total of some £10 million of private funds will now be available to the agency over the next two years for additional factory building.

National Parks (Access Agreements)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what progress has been made with access agreements to (a) the Nantlle Ridge and (b) the Arans; and how many other access agreements have been completed in Welsh national parks in the last 12 months.

I understand from the Snowdonia national park authority that negotiations for access agreements to the Nantlle Ridge are expected to be signed in the near future. The National Park Authority is currently undertaking discussions concerning access agreements to the Arans with the interested parties.No access agreements have been completed in the Welsh national parks during the last 12 months.

Local Authority Boundaries

asked the Secretary of State for Wales, further to the reply of the Minister of State, Home Department, Official Report, 13 July, column 491 if he will publish details of the provisional recommendations of the Local Government Boundary Commission for Wales in respect of community councils and Ogwr borough.

Draft proposals for new communities in Ogwr were published by the Boundary Commission in 1976. A copy has been sent to the hon. Member.

Neonatal Intensive Care Units

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the neonatal intensive care units in Wales; and how many measure up to the standards recommended in the recently published Select Committee Report on perinatal and neonatal mortality.

There is no designated neonatal intensive care unit in Wales. Facilities for the care of very sick and very small babies are available in hospitals with special care baby units.

Elderly Persons (Residential Care)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales how many health authorities within Wales fall short of the norms recommended by the Department of Health and Social Security with regard to residential care for persons over the age of 65 years.

Health authorities are not responsible for the provision of residential care.

Dyfed Health Authority(Revenue)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what revenue Dyfed health authority has received annually over the past five years for caring for patients that reside outside the administrative boundary of the county; and what revenue other health authorities have received from Dyfed health authority for the care of patients using facilities within those authorities annually over the past five years.

Area health authorities do not exchange payments in respect of cross-boundary flows of patients.

A55

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is his estimate of the economic benefits of a dual carriageway scheme on the A55 to the Mostyn dock and industrial estate; and if he will make a statement.

Improvement of the A55 route will considerably improve communications in North Wales and between North Wales and the rest of the country. As a result the area generally will benefit, including Mostyn.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is his latest estimate of the start date, completion date, length and cost of construction of (a) the Hawarden bypass and (b) the Holywell bypass, Clwyd; and if he will make a statement.

Advanced works on the Hawarden bypass may be started in the autumn of this year. The main contract is scheduled to start in the summer 1981, subject to progress by the NCB in reinstating land affected by opencast mining. The bypass will be 6–71 miles long (10–8 kms) and will take 2 years to complete. On current estimates the scheme will cost about £17–6 million.A public local inquiry into the revised Holywell bypass proposals will commence on 16 September next. Subject to the satisfactory completion of the statutory procedures and the availability of funds, work could start in 1983–84 and will take two years to complete. The length of the bypass as revised is 5–98 miles (9.62 kms) and on present costs it will cost about £14–7 million.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what proportion has been employed so far and what proportion is proposed for employment of local contractors and employees on the A55 Chester to Bangor dual carriageway scheme; and if he will make a statement.

Contracts are awarded on the lowest acceptable tender basis. Of the 10 contracts for dualling the A55 so far let, nine contracts have gone to firms with main offices in North Wales and Cheshire. Contractors are not obliged to employ local labour, but in practice a large proportion of labour on any road improvement scheme is recruited locally.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will estimate the number of direct and indirect jobs that might be created by the A55 dual carriageway scheme Chester to Bangor; and if he will make a statement.

I would expect local labour, quarries and other supliers to be employed for a large proportion of the work, which would provide immediate benefits to the local economy. Precise numbers cannot be estimated.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the latest estimated cost of dualling the A55, Chester to Bangor; what is his estimated date for completion of the whole scheme; and if he will make a statement.

In the region of £350 million, of which some £22 million has been spent to date on completed schemes, schemes in progress and on preparatory work on schemes yet to start. Subject to the satisfactory completion of preparatory work and statutory procedures. I hope the improvement can be completed by about 1987 or 1988.

North-East Wales Traffic Study

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when he proposes to publish the North-East Wales traffic study; if he will summarise in the Official Report the stated aims of the traffic study; and if he will make a statement.

I have nothing to add to my replies to the hon. Member on 25 May 1979—[Vol. 967, c. 336]—and 8 July 1980—[Vol. 988, c. 124.]

Remedial Education

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for remedial education of children of school age.

The cost of remedial education is included in the total expenditure on primary and secondary education, and cannot be separately identified.

Mentally Retarded Children

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for mentally retarded children in Wales.

The information is not available in the form requested. The costs of social service and health service provision for mentally handicapped children cannot be disaggregated from the costs of provision for adults in this client group.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the latest estimate of the numbers of children classified as (a) mentally retarded, and (b) educationally subnormal, indicating the numbers in both categories.

(a) The term "men tally retarded" is not a recognised classification in Wales.(

b) In January 1979 there were 11,184 children ascertained as educationally subnormal who were receiving special education or who were being educated in ordinary classes in maintained primary and secondary schools.

Ogwr (Referendum)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will allow the electors of Evanstown and Abercerdin in the borough of Ogwr a referendum to decide whether they should be registered as electors and ratepayers in the Ogwr borough area or the Taff Ely area.

There are no proposals to alter the borough boundary between Ogwr and Taff Ely before us at present. The final proposals of the Local Government Boundary Commission for Wales for the special community reviews of Ogwr and Taff Ely have not yet been submitted. The question whether a poll should be held on any particular proposal is for the Commission to consider prior to the submission of final proposals.

Pornographic Material

asked the Attorney-General what is the normal period for which items of pornographic material are loaned to mental hospitals by the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The normal period for which the Director has made such loans has been for so long as the applicant is responsible for the treatments for which the loans were made at the designated medical centre where they were carried out.

asked the Attorney-General if he will review his policy in allowing the Director of Public Prosecutions to continue to supply pornographic material to hospitals approved for the purpose by the Department of Health and Social Security, when none of the material supplied during the last year has so far been used in the treatment of any patient and no records are kept of the use made of material still held on loan from previous years.

The Director has his policies under continuous review and will have particular regard to the points raised by the hon. Member in his current consideration of the policy.

asked the Attorney-General, further to his answer to the hon. Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Mr. Beith) on 20 June, if he will list the 10 hospitals where individual medical practitioners receive pornographic material on loan from the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The 10 hospitals at which there are practitioners to whom loans are outstanding are:

  • 1. Royal Army Medical College, London
  • 2. Bethlem Royal and Maudsley, London
  • 3. Guys, London
  • 4. Broadmoor, Berks
  • 5. Herrison, Dorset
  • 6. Moss Side, Liverpool
  • 7. Park Day, Liverpool
  • 8. Park Lane, Liverpool
  • 9. Hellingly, Sussex
  • 10. Knowle, Hants
  • asked the Attorney-General what are the conditions governing loans of pornographic material by the Director of Public Prosecutions to medical practitioners in psychiatric hospitals.

    The conditions are:

  • 1. That the application receives the approval of the DHSS.
  • 2. That the applicant is the person primarily responsible at the designated centre for the assessment or treatment in question.
  • 3. That such material is specifically required for the assessment or treatment of particular patients for whom the applicant is responsible, and that material of a like kind already in the possession of the applicant or available from other sources is inadequate for the purpose.
  • 4. That an undertaking has been given by the applicant:
  • (a) that the material will be kept and used only at the designated centre and solely for the purposes stated in the application; and
  • (b) that it will not be used by a person not under the supervision of the applicant or copied without the permission of the Director.
  • 5. That the applicant has agreed to assume personal responsibility for the safe custody and proper cataloguing of the material, and for its return to the Director on request or when the applicant ceases to be primarily responsible for such assessments or treatment at the designated centre.
  • Confait Case

    asked the Attorney-General when the Director of Public Prosecutions expects to complete his consideration of the evidence with a view to making further prosecutions in the Confait case.

    Industry

    Steel Industry (Wales)

    18.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry when he next plans to visit Wales; and whether at that time he expects to be in a position to make a statement on the future of the steel industry in Wales.

    My right hon. Friend is planning to visit South Wales later this year, but no date has yet been fixed. The future of the steel industry in Wales, as in the country as a whole, depends on BSC's ability to become internationally competitive and commercially viable.

    Leicester

    19.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he is prepared to consider a visit to Leicester to review the effects of his policy as it affects the industries of Leicester; and whether he will make a statement as to what further aid he is now in a position to offer to those industries.

    My right hon. Friend visited Leicester in November last year and again in April this year. On aid to Leicester's industry the position remains as it was described in the answer to the hon. and learned Member's question on 7 July.

    Leeds

    20.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what new industries he expects will be attracted to Leeds under Government policy.

    The achievement of longer-term industrial expansion in Leeds as elsewhere depends mainly on the enterprise, skill and realism of management and workers alike in joint efforts to make things which are wanted at prices consumers are prepared to pay.

    Footwear Industry

    21.

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he proposes to take any further measures to assist the footwear industry.

    I maintain a dialogue with EDC, trade association and trade union and I am ready to consider any action suggested by them where it is appropriate and practical to do so within the framework of our broad economic objectives and our international obligations. Also, we are vigorously pursuing policies to reduce inflation and we are confident that this will be of long term benefit to footwear as well as other industries.

    Post Office

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many people have been recruited to work in the Post Office in each month since March up to the latest date for which figures are available; and how many have left in the same period.

    National Enterprise Board

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what proportion of United Kingdom value added was accounted for by the National Enterprise Board and its subsidiaries in 1976, 1977, 1978 and 1979.

    Motor Vehicle Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what is the capital labour ratio of the British motor vehicles industry by main company relative to Germany, France and Japan by the latest available date;(2) what is the capital-output ratio of the British motor vehicles industry by main company relative to the average for Germany, France and Japan at the latest available date.

    Companies (Funds)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry (1) what has been the contribution of self-financing to the investment requirements of British private industry since 1974;(2) what has been the contribution of stock market equity finance to the investment of British manufacturing industry since 1974.

    It is not possible to relate individual sources of companies' funds to particular uses. Statistics of the sources and uses of United Kingdom industrial and commercial companies' funds are published regularly in "Financial Statistics" table 9–2. On the definitions used in that table, internal funds accounted for 55 per cent. of total sources of funds in 1974 and for about 70 per cent. in each subsequent year; issues of ordinary shares for cash in the United Kingdom accounted for between 1 per cent.—in 1974—and 8 per cent.—in 1975. Expenditure on fixed assets and on the increase in book value of stocks in the United Kingdom accounted for between 68 per cent. and 78 per cent. of total uses of funds. It must be emphasised that different answers could be obtained by classifying certain items differently—for example by treating payments of taxes and dividends as uses of funds instead of deducting them from income as in the table in "Financial Statistics".Separate information for manufacturing industry is not available for recent years.

    Nationalised Industries

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the annual productivity of the United Kingdom nationalised industries, including the National Enterprise Board and its subsidiaries, since 1975 in comparison with the United Kingdom private industrial sector.

    Top 100 Manufacturing Companies

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what is the estimated share of the top 100 manufacturing companies in (a) net output, and (b) employment, in manufacturing, respectively, in the most recent year available.

    Results of the census of production for 1977, the most recent year for which figures are available, indicate that the 100 largest United Kingdom manufacturing enterprises in the private sector—in terms of net output—accounted for 39 per cent. of total net output and 33 per cent. of total employment in manufacturing industry.

    Car Sales (Loan Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry, in the light of the fact that foreign car manufacturers and their British based agents are selling foreign cars with loans at one half of the interest rates charged by British banks, and as this is adversely affecting British car manufacturers, whether he will arrange to make funds available for such loans to be supplied by British car manufacturers and their distributors.

    No Discounts and special offers are matters of commercial decisions by the vendors.

    British Shipbuilders

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry if, in his restructuring of British Shipbuilders, he intends to sell the Vospers, Vickers and Yarrow shipyards.

    My right hon. Friend hopes to be in a position to make a statement before the recess.

    North-West Region

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many jobs have been lost in the North-West region due to the closing down of small firms and the consequent reduction in numbers of employees at other firms due to declared redundancies.

    I have been asked to reply.I regret that information on closures and redundancies by size of firm could only be provided at disproportionate cost.

    Bankruptcies

    asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the number of bankruptcies in industrial and commercial companies, respectively, since 1974.

    I have been asked to reply.An industrial analysis of company liquidations is published quarterly in

    British business—formerly Trade and Industry. The information required can be found in table 3 of the following issues:

    Trade and Industry dated A/2111 (page 338) Trade and Industry dated 2/2/79 (page 243) British business dated 30/5/80 (page 72)

    European Community

    Portugal And Spain

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether the interest of the United Kingdom and Europe in anchoring Portugal and Spain to democratic Western Europe as firmly as possible could be served by associate rather than full membership of the European Economic Community.

    No. Both Portugal and Spain already have types of association agreements with the Community.

    Since democracy was restored in those countries, both have decided to move forward from this position and have applied to join the Community as full members. We support them in this objective and see no reason why they should settle for less.

    Technical Co-Operation Programme

    asked the Lord Privy Seal whether Her Majesty's Government are in favour of implementing a Council of Europe technical co-operation programme for the benefit of less developed European countries, fitted to the Council's specific competence and capabilities, as suggested in Council of Europe recommendation 861.

    Her Majesty's Government are not in favour of such a programme being conducted under the auspices of the Council of Europe. There is already a technical co-operation programme in the OECD. Some of the countries concerned receive bilateral aid from this country and financial help is also available from institutions within the European Community.

    Home Department

    Metropolitan Police Stations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on what dates and in what places Metropolitan Police stations have been the object of physical attack in the last convenient 12-month period.

    I understand from the Commissioner that records of incidents of this kind are not kept centrally, and the information could therefore be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Iranian Nationals

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if, in view of threats of terrorist action in Great Britain, in retaliation for Great Britain's unsuccessful attempt to resolve the recent Iranian terrorist activities in London without loss of life, made by guerrillas from the Khuzestan region of Iran and their official spokesman. Nasr Ahmed Nasr, at a recent press conference, he will arrange for special precautions to be taken, including the screening of Iranian citizens and prevention of entry at ports of entry into Great Britain.

    Immigration officers are well aware of the need for constant vigilance on account of the threat posed by terrorists. In the case of Iranians, the need to obtain visas is an additional safeguard.

    Foreign Nationals

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department on how many occasions the Government have requested persons other than diplomats claiming immunity to leave the United Kingdom during each of the last five years; what were the alleged offences in each case; and what countries' nationals were involved.

    I regret that the information is not readily available and could not be provided without disproportionate expense.

    Bbc (Financing)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what representations he has received concerning the financing of the BBC.

    In recent months I have met a deputation of representatives of the unions at the BBC and members of the TUC economic committee. I have also received correspondence from a number of other sources, including the general advisory council of the BBC.

    Immigration Offences (Police Raids)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many patrials and how many non-patrials whose immigration status was fully lawful were arrested during the operation by the police and immigration service at the Hilton hotel on 20 June; and how long each was detained.

    The operation at the Hilton hotel took place on 22 May. Two patrials and two non-patrials whose immigration status was in order were arrested on that date. One patrial was detained for 9¾ hours and the other for 6 hours. The non-patrials were detained for approximately 5 hours.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department (1) what were the nationalities of the 100 persons questioned at the Hilton hotel on 22 May; and how they were selected from the total employees present;(2) what were the nationalities of the alleged illegal immigrants about whom there was specific information leading to the operation at the Hilton hotel on 22 May.

    Prior to the operation at the Hilton Hotel on 22 May information had been obtained about people of 32 different nationalities who were suspected of being in breach of the immigration laws. The nationalities of those people who were questioned were similar.Twenty-three people had previously been positively identified by name as being in breach of the immigration laws and 142 had been identified by name whose immigration status was in doubt. Only people who fell into one of these two categories were questioned.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how often in the past six months the immigration service has taken part in operations mounted in connection with suspected immigration offences during which 20 or more persons were questioned as to their status; and if he will list the dates and premises concerned.

    The following joint operations between the Immigration Service and the police in which more than 20 people were questioned about their immigration status have taken place in the last 6 months:

    • 22 January Various premises in the Blackburn area.
    • 2 February Various premises in the London area.
    • 29 March The Shell centre. London.
    • 13 May Bestway Cash and Carry and other premises in London.
    • 22 May The Hilton hotel, London.
    • 20 June Main Gas factory, Edmonton.

    In addition to joint operations of this sort immigration officers may have been called upon to advise in other police operations, particularly where forged travel documents are suspected to have been used.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many police officers were deployed at the Hilton hotel during the operation on 20 June.

    Approximately 60 police officers were deployed in the operation centred upon the Hilton hotel on 22 May. Of these about 10 were at Vine Street police station. The remainder were deployed at the Hilton hotel and elsewhere.

    Vietnamese Refugees

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what information is given when Vietnamese refugees transfer from one reception centre to another as to whether appropriate medical screening and preventive measures to stop the spread of communicable diseases have been carried out.

    In addition to any medical screening of refugees on their departure for this country, there is further screening on arrival at a reception centre. Arrangements have been made to ensure that neither transfer to another reception centre nor permanent resettlement takes place until the local medical authorities are satisfied that the person concerned is fit to move freely in the community. I understand from my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services that there are established procedures for the transmission of the individual records of patients generally, but that it is for local discussion whether any additional arrangements need to be made in cases such as these.

    Prisoners (Suicides)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people have committed suicide while serving prison sentences in English and Welsh prisons in each year since 1970; what were their names; what was the crime they had committed; at which prison they were imprisoned; how they committed suicide; how long their sentence was; and how much of their sentence they had served.

    The information requested is below, except for the prisoners' names. It is not my right hon. Friend's policy to publish the names of prisoners in these circumstances.

    PERSONS WHO HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE WHILE SERVING PRISON SENTENCES

    Year

    Offence

    Establishment

    Method of suicide

    Length of sentence

    Sentence served

    1970MurderAlbanyCut armLife8 years
    1970BurglaryPentonvilleCarbon monoxide poisoning (whilst on home leave)4 years31 months
    1971Attempted theftExeterCut arm9 months2 months
    1971RobberyDurhamHanging3 years4 weeks
    1971BurglaryLeedsHanging3 years3 months
    1971LarcenyPentonvilleHanging12 months5 months
    1971SexualReadingHanging7½ years5 years
    1971ManslaughterWormwood ScrubsHanging5 years11 months
    1971FirearmsLiverpoolHanging5 years2 days
    1971BurglaryDartmoorHanging4 years3 years
    1972MurderWandsworthHangingLife3 months
    1972Grievous bodily harmWinchesterHanging4 years8 months
    1972AssaultLeedsHanging18 months1 day
    1972DeceptionWandsworthHanging15 months1 week
    1972DrugsWandsworthHanging18 months2 weeks
    1972BurglaryLeicesterHanging18 months9 months
    1972RapeLiverpoolHanging8 years1 month
    1972TheftWormwood ScrubsHanging9 months2 months
    1972MurderWakefieldHangingLifeN/K
    1972DeceptionLeedsSwallowed poison4 yearsNil

    Year

    Offence

    Establishment

    Method of suicide

    Length of sentence

    Sentence served

    £973BurglaryBristolShot himself (whilst on home leave)4½ years13 months
    1973AssaultHullHanging5 years8 months
    1973Stolen goodsBristolHanging3 years6 weeks
    1973RobberyWakefieldHanging14 years3 years
    1973BurglaryWandsworthHanging2 years6 months
    1973WoundingLiverpoolHanging2 years13 months
    1973BurglaryDartmoorCut arm6 years3 years
    1973DrugsWormwood ScrubsDived from rool9 months4 months
    1974Grievous bodily harmParkhurstHanging6 years3½ years
    1974Assault with intent to robBirminghamHanging6 years1 month
    1975FirearmsLewesCut throat5 years38 months
    1975MurderLiverpoolHangingLife1 week
    1975BurglaryBirminghamHanging4 years10 days
    1975BurglaryChelmsfordHanging4 years13 months
    1975TheftManchesterHanging6 months4 months
    1975TheftLow Newton (Hanging21 days4 days
    1976TheftSwanseaHanging2 years 9 months13 months
    1976BurglaryLiverpoolHanging18 months4 months
    1976BurglaryLiverpoolHanging4 years8 months
    1976DrugsManchesterHanging12 months4 months
    1976TheftManchesterHanging9 months3 months
    1976Conspiracy to arsonWakefieldRefusal of tood10 years2½ years
    1976Attempted murderWormwood ScrubsHangingLife68 months
    1976RapeBrixtonHanging5 years18 months
    1976ForgeryCamp HillCarbon monoxide poisoning (whilst unlawfully at large)3 years26 months

    Year

    Offence

    Establishment

    Method of suicide

    Length of sentence

    sentence served

    1977MurderWormwood ScrubsHangingLife5 months
    1977BurglaryCanterburyHanging18 months4 months
    1977Non-payment of finesShrewsburyHanging1 month1 day
    1977WoundingStaffordHanging2 years3 months
    1977ArsonWakefieldHanging7 years10 months
    1977BurglaryParkhurstHanging4 yeass1 year
    1977WoundingGartreeHanging12 years50 months
    1978MurderLeedsHangingLife11 years
    1978Grievous bodily harmLeedsHanging12 months2 months
    1978Actual bodily harmWandsworthHanging18 months15 days
    1978ManslaughterLong LartinCut armsLife7 years
    1978MurderWormwood ScrubsHangingLife1 year
    1978ManslaughterDurham (F)Hanging5 years11 months
    1978Attempted murderDartmoorHangingLife70 months
    1979MurderGartreeHangingLife21 months
    1979ArsonWormwood ScrubsHangingLife6 months
    1979Murder…DartmoorHangingLife6½ years
    1979Avoiding paying finesWandsworthHanging9 months7 months
    1979Going equippedWandsworthHanging18 months2 months
    1979ArsonLincolnHanging3 years4 months
    1979ArsonWormwood ScrubsHanging4 years3 months
    1979Daoage, assault on P.C.LiverpoolHanging6 months2½ months
    1979BurglaryLiverpoolHanging5 years3 months
    1979Indecent assaultPentonvilleHanging6 months3½ months
    1979Damage, possessing of weaponStaffordHanging3 years16 months
    1979DeceptionShrewsburyBarbiturate overdose12 months1 day

    Crimes Of Violence

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many murders were made known to the police and how many persons were convicted of murder, manslaughter and violence, respectively, in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and what were the comparable figures in each of the previous 20 years.Mr. Brittan: In a case of homicide, it is not possible in the absence of a court decision to distinguish between offences of murder, manslaughter and infanticide, and so for offences recorded by the police only the total number of homicides is recorded. The information available is published annually in "Criminal Statistics, England and Wales"—chapter 9, and table 10 (a) of the volume for 1978 (Cmnd. 7670). The only information so far available for 1979 relates to offences of homicide recorded by the police, on a slightly different basis from the figures in chapter 9 of Cmnd. 7670. and was published in Home Office statistical bulletin 9/80, a copy of which has been placed in the Library of the House.

    Self-Service Stores (Bag Parks)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will now refer to his Department's standing committee on crime prevention the question of requiring self-service stores to operate a system of bag parks to help to prevent shoplifting; and if he will make a statement.

    The provision of bag parks by self-service stores is one of the matters being considered by the Home Office standing committee on crime prevention in its current review of measures to prevent shoplifting and thefts by shop staff.

    Private Security Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will make a statement on the progress of his discussion on the activities of so-called store detectives and the licensing of the private security industry.

    The position of store detectives is being considered as part of the current review of the private security industry. We hope to be able to indicate the Government's views in due course.

    Picketing

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether any informal guidelines or formal instructions have been issued by him or the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police on the limiting of pickets to six persons.

    Gaming (Amendment) Act

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why there has been a delay between the passage of the Gaming (Amendment) Act 1980 in March and the laying of the appropriate order implementing the powers conferred by the Act; and if he will now take the necessary action to avoid further delay as a result of the impending parliamentary recess.

    The Government gave no undertaking to make immediate use of the power conferred by this Act to increase the maximum winnings in games of linked bingo, but I hope soon to be in a position to lay an order providing for such an increase.

    Civil Defence

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he will be in a position to make his promised statement on civil defence.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what action is being taken to protect the communication network against the effects of an electromagnetic pulse; and if this information will be included in his promised statement.

    I am currently considering how best to improve the emergency communications network, including some measures of protection against electromagnetic pulse.

    European Parliament(Travel Allowances)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what information he has received in relation to allowances paid to Members of the European Assembly in respect of travel within constituencies, relevant to the exercise of his power under section 2 of the European Assembly (Pay and Pensions) Act 1979.

    I understand that an allowance worth about £240 per month will in future be available, against a declaration of expenditure, to Members of the European Parliament for constituency travel, and that certain Members will be given an extra allowance because of the size of their constituencies.

    Escaped Prisoners(Information)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether, in the light of the press interview of Mr. Charles Richardson, an escaped prisoner, he will take steps to amend the law to make it an offence not to disclose to the police information which a person knows to be, or believes might be, of material assistance in securing the apprehension of an escaped prisoner.

    It is an offence under section 22 of the Criminal Justice Act 1961 for a person knowingly to harbour someone who has escaped from prison, or to give any such person any assistance with intent to hinder or interfere with his being taken into lawful custody. While in general it is not a criminal offence simply to withhold information from the police, in some circumstances an offence may be committed under section 5 of the Criminal Law Act 1967 by a person who receives a consideration for not disclosing information which might be of material assistance in securing the prosecution or conviction of an offender. We are of course unable to comment on whether these or any other offences may have been committed in the particular case to which my hon. Friend refers. While we hope that all members of the public will assist the police to discover and apprehend offenders and those who have escaped from lawful custody, my right hon. Friend has no present plans to extend the criminal law in the way proposed.

    Police (Firearms)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether it is Government policy that each individual police force should establish specialist firearms units to deal with major operational incidents in which firearms may be used; and if he will list these forces which either have or plan to have such units.

    The operational organisation of each police force is a matter for each chief officer of police. All police forces have a proportion of officers specially trained in the use of firearms.The trend is towards the setting up of specialist units, which can be called out to deal with major incidents, consisting of officers who have had additional training both in the use of weapons and in tactics, but detailed information is not available centrally.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, on a police force area basis, on how many occasions in 1979 firearms were issued to police officers (a) to deal with crime, (b) for protection of persons, (c) for protection of property; on how many occasions weapons were drawn from holsters; on how many occasions shots were fired: and in these cases, what the circumstances were.

    In 1979 firearms were issued to police officers in England and Wales on 8,374 occasions for particular incidents involving criminals or other persons known or believed to be armed. It would not be in the interests of security to give details of the number of occasions on which firearms were issued for protection purposes.No information is available centrally on the number of occasions weapons were drawn from holsters. Shots were fired on three occasions in 1979. In two of these incidents, in the West Midlands and the Metropolitan Police area, police officers had reason to believe that they were about to come under fire; no injuries were sustained. A third incident in Essex resulted in the death of a young man who had fired a number of shots at police officers during a protracted siege.In addition, firearms were used on a number of occasions to destroy injured or dangerous animals.

    Police (Cs Gas)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether it is Government policy that each individual police force should be equipped with CS gas; if he will list those forces which either are or plan to be equipped with such gas; how many officers are trained in the use of such gas and how such training is carried out; and what operational advice is given by his Department on the circumstances in which CS gas may be used by police.

    Yes. CS smoke equipment has been held by all police forces since the mid-1960s. Its use is governed by a statement of the then Secretary of State for the Home Department on 20 May 1965 —Vol. 712, c. 1651—that CS smoke was "for use in dealing with armed criminals or violently insane persons in buildings from which they cannot be dislodged without danger of loss of life. The tear smoke would not be used in any other circumstances."The number of officers trained in the use of the equipment and the way in which they are trained are operational matters for individual chief officers of police, but the general practice is that the equipment would be used only by officers who have received specialist training.

    Television Licences

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he is satisfied with the present television licensing arrangements.

    I am satisfied that the television licence fee is the best method of financing the BBC. I have, however, asked the working party on the administration of the broadcast receiving licence system, on which the Home Office, the Post Office and the BBC are represented, to consider again methods of payment of the licence fee and whether the base of the licensing system might be expanded.

    Nationality

    asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he intends to publish the White Paper on nationality law.

    Trade

    Footwear Industry

    22.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what action he is taking to strengthen the trading position of the footwear industry.

    The existing range of restraint arrangements covering imports of footwear are closely monitored and enforced. My hon. Friend the Minister for Trade is ready to consider further arrangements should circumstances justify them. He is constantly seeking improvements in export opportunities both bilaterally and through the European Commission.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade why he has refused the request from the British Footwear Manufacturers Federation to reduce substantially the ceilings for men's and women's leather footwear imported from Poland and Czechoslovakia; and whether he will make a statement.

    At the request of the United Kingdom the EC Commission is negotiating a continuation of voluntary restraints on imports of leather footwear from Poland and Czechoslovakia. The ceilings in force have not been increased for several years and I do not consider that a reduction in the current levels agreed would be negotiable.

    Italy

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he is satisfied that consumer durables imported from Italy do not benefit from hidden subsidies towards the manufacturing companies' costs of electricity, local taxes, services and materials that create a condition of unfair competition for manufacturers in the United Kingdom.

    Italy refunds certain internal taxes on exports of mechanical engineering products to other member States of the Community. The refunds were fixed at their present rates in 1973 following a decision of the European Court of Justice, which considered their conformity with article 96 of the Treaty of Rome. I know of no grounds for objecting to them; their value is insignificant, but I will write separately to the hon. Member giving him details.Although there have been suggestions that Italian steel prices are subsidised, the European Commission has found no evidence of this.

    Exports from Italy are zero rated for Italian VAT, just as United Kingdom exports are zero rated for British VAT.

    I am not aware of any other payments to Italian exporters which may have given rise to the hon. Member's question, but if he has any further information I shall be glad to look into it.

    Washing Machines

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what proportion of washing machines sold in the United Kingdom are currently manufactured (a) in the United Kingdom, (b) in Italy, (c) in the rest of the European Economic Community, (d) in Spain and (e) in Eastern Europe.

    The information for domestic electric washing machines is as follows:

    DOMESTIC ELECTRIC WASHING MACHINES SOLD IN THE UNITED KINGDOM IOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDING 31 MARCH 1980
    Proportion (per cent.)
    Where manufacturedBy valueBy number
    United Kingdom7168
    Italy2529
    European Economic Community (excluding Italy and United Kingdom)33
    Spain11
    Eastern Europe

    Notes: Proportions have been rounded to 1 per cent. causing an apparent discrepancy in the sum of the constituents by number; amounts of less than ½ per cent. are represented by a dash.

    Sources: Business Monitor PQ 368 and "Overseas Trade Statistics of the United Kingdom".

    Fluoride Powder

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade from which countries the United Kingdom obtains supplies of fluoride powder for use in the water supply; and if he will publish the quantities imported during the past three years.

    This information is not available. Fluoride power for water fluoridation is not separately indentified in the Overseas Trade Statistics; I am advised that it is normally imported from Denmark, but sometimes other sources may be used.

    Soviet Union (Motor Cars)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many cars manufactured in the Soviet Union were imported into the United Kingdom for each of the last three years; and what are the current monthly tables.

    The number of passenger motor cars of Soviet origin imported into the United Kingdom was as follows:

    Number
    197714,794
    197817,999
    197923,286
    January1980743
    February1,123
    March1,949
    April1,9515
    May948
    Source: United Kingdom

    Overseas Trade Statistics (SITC (Rev 1) Sub-groups 732.1 and 732.6 and corresponding items under SITC (Rev 2)).

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will take action to ban the import of Russian cars in circumstances where there is evidence that their components were made in forced labour camps.

    I am not aware of any evidence that Russian car components are made in forced labour camps.

    Wood (Imports)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what types of wood were imported into the United Kingdom from each of the following countries in 1979; what was the weight of each type from each country; and what was the value of each type from each country: the United States of America, Canada, Brazil, Peru, Bolivia, Argentina, West Germany and Switzerland.

    Regional Airports

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many people used the following regional airports in 1979 and how many have used them up to 30 June: Aberdeen, Belfast, Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff, Carlisle, East Midlands, Edinburgh, Exeter, Glasgow, Hurn, Leeds, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Norwich, Prestwick, Southampton, Southend and Stansted.

    The number of terminal passengers who used the airports concerned in 1979 is given in the table below. The figures for the first half of this year are not yet available.

    Aberdeen1,285,040
    Belfast1,411,125
    Birmingham1,561,889
    Bristol238,397
    Cardiff253,504
    Carlislenot available
    East Midlands593,587
    Edinburgh1,244,255
    Exeter85,812
    Glasgow2,358,236
    Bournemouth (Hurn)150,324
    Leeds/Bradford388,298
    Liverpool598,844
    Luton2,207,289
    Manchester3,463,473
    Norwich176,727
    Prestwick419,670
    Southampton330,499
    Southend181,018
    Stansted347,175

    Electricity Consultative Councils

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will ensure that electricity consultative councils draw a proportion of their members from amongst the local committee members within their area.

    I am always willing to consider the appointment of local committee members to the electricity consultative councils, subject to the provisions of section 7 of the Electricity Act 1947 as amended by the Electricity Act 1957, which determine the size of the councils' membership and the balance between nominees of the local authority associations and those representing other interests as specified in the Act.

    Air Travel (Disabled Persons)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what funds the Government intend to provide either to British Airways or British aircraft manufacturers to assist with their anticipated efforts to improve facilities for disabled people travelling by air.

    Neither British Airways nor British aircraft manufacturers have requested funds to be made available specifically for this purpose.

    Bicycles

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) to which coun- tries British-made bicycles were exported in 1979; and what was the value of bicycles exported to each country;(2) from which countries bicycles were imported into the United Kingdom in 1979; and what was the value of imports from each country.

    The information for United Kingdom imports and exports of unmotorised cycles—including delivery tricycles—is as follows:

    IMPORTS
    Country of consignment£ thousand c
    Federal Republic of Germany5,375
    Italy4,284
    Austria3,268
    France1,912
    Irish Republic939
    Poland626
    Hungary546
    Yugoslavia385
    Taiwan133
    Spain132
    Netherlands115
    Canada108
    Other countries*230
    * 18 countries.
    EXPORTS
    Country of destination£ thousand fob
    Nigeria8,079
    United States of America4,717
    Irish Republic3,096
    Canada1,817
    Belgium-Luxembourg1,016
    France832
    Netherlands755
    Iran754
    Malaysia355
    Denmark342
    Sudan313
    Federal Republic of Germany301
    Italy240
    Israel228
    Norway211
    Afghanistan202
    Other countries†2,631
    † 93 countries.

    Source: United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics (SITC (Rev 2) Sub-group 785.2).

    Note: Exports may include re-exports of goods previously imported.

    Canada

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what were Canadian exports to Great Britain as a percentage of Canadian exports, and imports from Great Britain as a percentage of Canadian imports, in 1979; and what were imports from Canada as a percentage of British imports, and exports to Canada as a percentage of British exports, in the same year.

    The statistics from which these percentages can be derived are published in OECD Statistics of Foreign Trade—series A—latest issue June 1980—which is available in the House of Commons Library. The available data relate to the United Kingdom rather than Great Britain.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the value of total trade between the United Kingdom and Canada in each year since 1970 up to the latest year for which figures are available.

    Prato Industries

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what further action his Department will be taking following the rejection by the EEC Commission of the Prato case on grounds of lack of evidence of unfair competition.

    Following the communication from the Commission in January this year to which the hon. Member refers, my Department and the Department of Industry were instrumental in arranging a meeting in Brussels in June between representatives of the Yorkshire and Prato industries, under Commission chairmanship. In a wide-ranging discussion, information on costings was exchanged. This information is now being studied in detail by the two sides. A further meeting is expected later in the year.

    Oil Tankers (Navigation Equipment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what steps are being taken to ensure that oil tankers on which navigating equipment has broken down report such failure to the coastguards or other appropriate authority.

    Regulations will shortly be made which will require certain tankers of 1,600 GRT or more to notify defects to the appropriate authorities in advance of entering or when leaving a United Kingdom port. The voluntary ship movement reporting system in the English Channel and Dover Strait also provides for tankers carrying noxious cargoes to report defects in navigational equipment to the coastguard.

    Carpets (United States)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what were the total imports of tufted man-made fibre carpets from the United States of America for each month beginning January of the current year; and what was the percentage import penetration in each month.

    Imports of tufted man-made fibre carpets, carpeting and carpet type rugs from the United States of America were:

    1980Thousand square metres
    January739
    February517
    March1,064
    April1,141
    May695
    June713
    The estimated share of the United Kingdom home market taken by imports from the United States of America in the first quarter of 1980 was 11 per cent.Figures for each month and for the second quarter of 1980 are not available.

    Gatwick Airport

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many complaints he has received about aircraft noise at nighttime within the Gatwick control zone in respect of fixed-wing general aviation aircraft and jet aircraft, respectively; and if he will explain the reasons for the current ban on night movements by general aviation aircraft at Gatwick.

    My Department received 85 complaints about aircraft movements at night in the Gatwick area during the 12 months ending on 30 June 1980, but they did not all relate to specific aircraft and it is not possible to say how many of them related to general aviation aircraft. The restrictions which I have imposed on night movements at Gatwick do not specifically differentiate between general aviation aircraft and other types. However, the allocation of movements within the quotas is a matter on which I accept the advice of the operators using the airport as submitted by the scheduling committee.

    Iraq

    Newens asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a statement on the progress of trade between Great Britain and Iraq over recent months; and if he will give figures to indicate what has been achieved.

    In the first six months of 1980, British exports to Iraq were some £133 million, an increase of 42 per cent. over the figure of £94 million in the comparable period last year.

    1975197619771978
    40 per cent. of United Kingdom exports49384555
    50 per cent. of United Kingdom exports937790108
    66 per cent. of United Kingdom exports259196262337

    Source: Department of Trade's Annual Overseas Transactions Inquiry.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what proportion of United Kingdom visible import trade has been represented by the top 30, 75 and 220 importing companies since 1974.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what share of British

    Per cent.
    1975197619771978
    Top 30 exporters33363532
    Top 75 exporters46504744
    Top 220 exporters64676461

    Source: Department of Trade's Annual Overseas Transactions Inquiry.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what has been the ratio of foreign production by British business abroad relative to United Kingdom visible exports since 1951 in the years 1961, 1971 and 1979.

    Information on overseas production by United Kingdom enterprises is not available.

    Imports And Exports (Own Subsidiaries)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what proportion of the foreign trade of the top 100 importing and exporting companies has been represented for imports and exports, respectively, by their trade with own subsidiaries abroad since 1974.

    The latest available information on exports by United Kingdom companies to their related con-

    Visible Trade

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many companies have represented the top 40 per cent., 50 per cent. and 66 per cent. of United Kingdom visible export trade since 1974.

    The information available on the number of United Kingdom companies accounting for given percentages of United Kingdom exports as recorded in the Overseas Trade Statistics—excluding diamonds—is as follows:visible export trade has been represented, respectively, by the top 30, 75 and 220 companies since 1974.

    The information available on the percentage of United Kingdom exports as recorded in the Overseas Trade Statistics—excluding diamonds—accounted for by such companies is as follows:cerns overseas is published in an article "Direct Exporters and Credit Terms of Exports in 1976" in

    British Business, formerly Trade and Industry, on 21 July 1978. Similar information for imports is not available.

    Multi-Fibre Arrangement (United States)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) if he will list the value, volume, number of garments, kilograms of fabrics, and unit price of imports of multi-fibre arrangement categories four, five, seven and 65 from the United States of America in 1978–79 and the latest available figures for the current year, and similarly for total United Kingdom imports;(2) if he will list the value, volume and unit prices of imports of multi-fibre arrangement categories four, five, seven and 65 from the United States of America that contain yarn of polyester fibres, continuous, trade codes 51.01: 0899, 0999, 1199 and 1399, in 1978, 1979, and the latest available figures for the current year.

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade (1) whether any representations have been made to the Government of the United States of America concerning the substantial increases in imports of articles under multi-fibre arrangement categories four, five and 65 from the United States of America; what has been the result of these representations; and what action Her Majesty's Government now intend to take in the matter;(2) whether representations have been made to the European Economic Commission concerning the import of knitted garments and fabrics from the United States of America containing yarn made from polyester fibres, continuous, trade codes 51.01: 0899, 0999, 1199 and 1399; and what has been the result of those representations.

    Clothing And Footwear

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many countries' exports to the United Kingdom are subject to restrictions, either formal or informal, in the case of (a) clothing and (b) footwear, other than rubber and canvas; and which are the countries in each case.

    [pursuant to his reply, 17 July 1980 c. 637]: Imports of clothing from 34 countries are subject to restrictions. The countries concerned are Albania, Brazil, Bulgaria, China, Cyprus Czechoslovakia, German Democratic Republic, Greece, Hong Kong, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Macao, Malaysia, Malta, Mauritius, Morocco, North Korea, Pakistan, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Singapore, South Korea, Spain, Sri Lanka, Taiwan, Thailand, Tunisia, Vietnam, USSR, Yugoslavia. There are restraints on imports of leather footwear from Czechoslovakia, Poland and Romania; all footwear from South Korea; and all non-leather footwear from Taiwan. There are fewer suppliers of foot- wear than of clothing, and the restraints on the sources I have mentioned cover some 50 per cent. of total low-cost imports of footwear.

    Commercial Agents(Community Directive)

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade what progress is being made within the Council of Ministers to reach agreement on a Community directive for commercial agents.

    The proposed directive on commercial agents is currently being discussed by a Council working group. At its last meeting in June the working group reached article 16 in its consideration of the proposal.

    Textiles

    asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether, following the assurances given that full use will be made of existing international arrangements, the Government intend to make use of the consultation provisions contained in many multi-fibre arrangement bilateral agreements, particularly with the major supplying countries, in the light of the substantial reduction in domestic demand for textiles and apparel items, and of the precedent established by the United States Administration in support of textile and apparel manufacturers in the United States.

    Education And Science

    Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what will be the output of newly-trained teachers in the current year; and how many vacancies there are in primary and secondary schools.

    My Department is compiling an estimate of this year's output of newly trained teachers and I shall write to the hon. Member as soon as the information is available. Information about the number of vacancies in primary and secondary schools is not available centrally; staffing policy is a matter for individual schools and local authorities.

    University Technicians (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science when he expects to make an announcement regarding the presentation of the Clegg award for university technicians; and if he will make a statement on this award.

    The report of the Standing Commission on pay comparability on university technicians was laid before Parliament and published today, as Cmnd. 7974. Copies are available in the Vote Office. The report recommends new scales to come into effect from 1 April 1980 involving increases averaging about 12 per cent. on current salaries. The negotiating parties agreed in advance to accept the commission's recommendations.

    Handicapped Children(Warnock Report)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the cost in a full financial year of his Department's acceptance of aspects of the Warnock committee's proposals on the education of handicapped children.

    The main group of proposals addressed to the Government concern the new statutory framework for assessing special educational needs based on individual requirements. The Government's acceptance of these proposals, which I announced on 3 March, is not expected to lead to any significant increase in public expenditure.—[Vol. 980, c. 42–43.]

    Assisted Places Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list those independent schools which have indicated a desire to take part in the assisted places scheme, grouping these schools by local authority area and showing the number of boys' and girls' places each school is to provide.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given by my right hon. and learned Friend to a question from the hon. Member for Bedwellty (Mr. Kinnock) on 24 July.—[Vol. 989, c. 327–28.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if, pursuant to his answer of 14 July, he will list in the Official Report the 262 private schools which have applied for inclusion in the assisted places scheme; and, of those schools, which will offer places to girls; how many places will be offered; and which have offered places only in their sixth form.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply I gave him on 24 July.—[Vol. 989, c. 327–28.]

    Secondary School Pupils(Further Education)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proportion of students in maintained secondary schools stayed in school after the compulsory school leaving age for one, two and three extra years, respectively, for each of the school years 1975–76, 1976–77 and 1977–78.

    The estimated proportions of pupils remaining at maintained secondary schools beyond the compulsory school-leaving age in the years specified were as follows:

    Percentage of pupils remaining at school for:
    At least one extra year
    1975–7625
    1976–7725
    1977–7824
    At least two extra years
    1975–7616
    1976–7716
    1977–7816
    Three extra years
    1975–761
    1976–771
    1977–781

    West Indian Pupils

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what proposals he has to undertake a survey of West Indian pupils; if he will give details of these; what representations he has had; and if he will make a statement.

    The Department's assessment of performance unit is currently considering proposals for a survey of educational performance of West Indian pupils in consultation with representatives of the main interested organisation. My right hon. and learned Friend has not yet decided whether or not such a survey should be mounted.

    Remedial Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for remedial education of children of school age.

    Provision for remedial education is contained within total expenditure on primary and secondary schools, and its cost cannot be separately identified.

    Overseas Students

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science whether he will make a statement about the methods of monitoring overseas student entry in 1980–81 and the extent to which numbers, country of origin, financial status and chosen course will be included in the monitoring exercises and the published results.

    Statistics should be available soon after the start of the next academic year to enable a first assessment to be made of the overall effect of the policy of full-cost fees. In the light of this further information will be collected about specific effects in institutions. All the available data will be carefully examined by the Department in consultation with the UGC and the local authority associations.

    Agriculture, Fisheries Andfood

    European Community (Milk)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, in the light of the decision by the European Court of Justice in February in the case involving "Cassis de Dijon", he remains of the opinion that milk from EEC member States can be refused entry into Great Britain until either Community health and hygiene regulations exist or the European Court decides in favour of its admission.

    Yes. The judgment in question, which arose in relation to the alcoholic content of spirits, confirmed that the protection of public health is among those considerations which may justify a restriction on imports.

    Sheepmeat

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries, and Food what steps he proposes to take in order to ensure that a community sheepmeat regime for United Kingdom farmers is introduced as soon as possible.

    As my right hon. Friend said in his statement to the House on 24 July, the Council has agreed that all the internal and external aspects of the regime should be decided at its next meeting in September in order to permit its entry into force on 1 October 1980. We shall exert every possible effort to ensure that this timetable is met and that decisions are taken on a basis that meets our interests as the Community's major producer and consumer of mutton and lamb.

    Fish Farming

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what discussions he has had with the fish farming industry about its future; and if he will make a statement.

    I have instructed my officials to review policy on fish farming and other related topics. Once I have completed my consideration of their report, I propose to issue a consultation document to representative bodies as a basis for discussion.

    Fishing Industry

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what action his Department is taking to monitor the disbursement of the £3 million granted to the fishing industry; and if he will make a statement.

    Administration of the expenditure of the £1 million allocated for funding a programme of exploratory voyages is directly controlled by officials in the Fisheries Departments. The remaining £2 million has been allocated to fish producer organisations, who have discretion to choose the nature and timing of their disbursement of the subsidy, subject to the terms and conditions laid down in the Fish Producers' Organisations Subsidy Scheme 1980. All expenditure is, of course, subject to the normal internal and parliamentary audit processes.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will take action to avert the impending closure of the fishing industry.

    The Government are urgently considering their response to the requests they have received from the fishing industry for aid to help it meet the difficulties which it is currently facing.

    European Community (Exports To Eastern Bloc Countries)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will explain the procedure for applications for payment of EEC subsidies for the export of beef to the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, Romania and other Eastern bloc countries, and the procedure for the payments to be made; and why it is not possible to supply information on the amount of subsidies paid out for such beef exports to Russia from the EEC in the first five months of the current year or for any comparable period.

    Traders who wish to benefit from EEC export subsidies for beef are required to make an application specifying the country of destination. An export subsidy becomes payable when the exporter provides proof that the beef has arrived in the country which he specified. Payment is made by the member State issuing the export document. Export subsidies for beef going to the USSR were discontinued with effect from 21 June.The cost of export subsidies for particular periods and destinations are not separately identified in Community statistics and because of the varying rates of subsidies according to the presentation of the beef exported the cost cannot be meaningfully estimated.

    Beef Imports (Republic Of Ireland)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how much has been paid under the beef premium scheme in each of the last five years on fatstock imported from the Republic of Ireland, excluding imported store cattle, in this financial year to date; if he is satisfied that payment made from United Kingdom taxation revenue should be used to finance support premiums for the agriculture industry in the Republic of Ireland, and whether he will terminate this arrangement at the earliest possible moment.

    Payments under the beef premium scheme in respect of imports from the Republic of Ireland for the five most recent complete marketing years have been as follows:

    Marketing Year£
    1975–762,353,774
    1976–77401.097
    1977–781,587,669
    1978–79nil
    1979–80446,061 (provisional)
    Details of payments in the current marketing year, which began on 2 June, are not yet available.These payments, of which 25 per cent. is met by Community funds, are made in accordance with Community regulations and have formed part of the general arrangements for the beef premium scheme since it was first introduced in 1974, and to change this would mean a renegotiation of the beef premium scheme, the continuation of which has the fullest support of our farmers.

    Defence

    "Mary Rose"

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what contribution he intends to make in the raising of the "Mary Rose", which sank in 1554, the conservation of artifacts found within her and to the establishment of a building to hold the reclaimed ship, in view of the fact that the "Mary Rose" was the first purpose-built ship of the Royal Navy.

    It is not our policy to give financial assistance from the Defence Vote towards costs of restoring or preserving historic ships. Naval authorities at Portsmouth, however, have been authorised to give temporary and limited practical assistance during the raising of the "Mary Rose", provided that it can be regarded as having a real training value for Naval personnel.

    Buccaneer Aircraft

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement on the future of the Buccaneer aircraft.

    RAF Buccaneers will be resuming normal flying immediately. Following the crash of an RAF Buccaneer in Nevada on 7 February, cracks due to metal fatigue were found in the mainplane front spar of the crashed aircraft. As a precaution, all peacetime non-operational flying by RAF Buccaneers was suspended pending the outcome of technical investigations. It is now clearly established that the accident on 7 February was caused by the failure of the aircraft's starboard wing when subjected to loadings which in its fatigued state it was unable to withstand. The RAF board of inquiry is now being finalised and a summary will be published in due course.To restore full confidence in the integrity of the Buccaneer airframe each aircraft was subjected to stringent inspection; two aircraft were totally dismantled; flight trials were undertaken to revalidate the fatigue test specimen; and a detailed repair scheme was devised. Experts from RAE Farnborough and the Accidents Investigation Branch have been closely involved in all this work.Over half of the Buccaneer fleet was found to be either intact or with minor cracks which have now been repaired. I am now satisfied with the safety of these aircraft, and they will shortly resume unrestricted peacetime flying. The remaining aircraft, where more substantial cracks were found, can be recovered to front-line flying with more extensive repairs, and the economics of this are being considered. Hitherto, we have maintained our full Buccaneer declaration to NATO on the basis of availability in war. It is now clear that initially, and possibly also in the longer term, this declaration must be reduced. We shall be discussing with the NATO authorities the future size of the declared force.

    Gibraltar Dockyard

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence why the agreement dating from 1947 that the security of Gibraltar dockyard be maintained by the Gibraltar police has been ended, in view of the severe effect on the finances of Gibraltar; and if he will reconsider this decision.

    The arrangement was terminated on 1 July 1980 at the request of the Gibraltar Government, who anticipated an increase in civil police tasks arising from the reopening of the frontier with Spain. Policing of naval establishments in Gibraltar is now in the hands of staff employed directly by MoD, and no review is planned.

    Royal Marines (New Hebrides)

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will make a statement about the withdrawal of the Royal Marines from the New Hebrides.

    I refer the hon. Member to the statement made by my hon. Friend on 24 July—[Vol. 989, c. 801–8]. Final decisions have not yet been taken.

    Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will provide figures showing approximately the percentage of world military expenditure for 1979 for the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation and the Warsaw Pact Powers, respectively.

    Some countries do not publish any figures for military spending. Others, like the Soviet Union, as I explained to the hon. Member for Keighley (Mr. Cryer) on 7 July—[Col. 53–4]—publish only unreliable figures. Tt is, therefore, not possible to provide a complete total for world military expenditure.

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence what amount, as a percentage of the gross national product, was allocated in each of the last 10 years to date to defence spending; and how this compares with each of the other EEC countries, Japan and the United States of America.

    The information requested is set out below. The NATO definition of defence expenditure, which is broader than the United Kingdom's, has been used throughout, and gross domestic

    PERCENTAGE OF GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT DEVOTED TO DEFENCE EXPENDITURE
    Year
    Country1970197119721973197419751976197719781979
    United Kingdom4·84·95·24·85·15·05·04·84·74·9
    Belgium2·92·92·92·82·8313·13·23·33·3
    Denmark2·32·42·22·02·32·42·32·32·42·4
    France4·24·03·93·83·73·83·83·94·04·0
    Germany3·33·43·53·53·63·63·53·43·43·3
    Italy2·52·72·92·72·62·52·32·42·42·3
    Luxembourg0·80·80·80·80·81·01·01·01·11·0
    Netherlands3·53·43·43·33·33·53·33·53·33·3
    United States7·97·16·66·06·16·05·45·45·15·2

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much was actually spent on defence in the year 1979–80 at current year prices; what is the planned level of expenditure for 1980–81; and what percentage increase this represents in real terms.

    Final 1979–80 accounts are not yet available, but defence expenditure is expected to be very close to the total Estimates provision of £9,183 million. The 1980–81 defence Estimates total £10,949 million at forecast outturn prices; the defence cash limit will be reviewed to take account of the Armed Forces' pay award, and an announcement will be made in due course. The Government remain committed to aim for annual increases in defence spending in the region of 3 per cent. in real terms.

    Special Air Services

    asked the Secretary of State for Defence who is the present Director of the Special Air Services and Commander of the Special Air Services Group.

    The appointment of Director of the Special Air Services and Commander of the Special Air Services Group is held by a brigadier in the British Army; successive Administrations have not published the names of the individual concerned.

    Environment

    Building Regulations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will product has been used as the basic aggregate.No figures are available for the Republic of Ireland, and none on a comparable basis for Japan.make a statement on progress made in proposed changes to the system of building control in England and Wales, including simplification of building regulations.

    My right hon. Friend is now considering the comments on the principles of the options set out in his consultation letter of 6 June and looks forward to receiving comments on detail by the end of August.

    Crashed Aircraft(Damage Claims)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what procedure is adopted by the Property Services Agency to investigate, assess, administer and settle claims arising from damage caused by crashed aircraft of the Royal Air Force; and whether this procedure was followed in the case of the Tintagel air crash on 6 July 1979; and, if not, how it differed.

    The Property Services Agency's estate surveyors are responsible on behalf of the Claims Commission for investigating damage to civilian property from military aircraft crashes that are notified by the Services authority concerned. The local estate surveyor makes a general assessment of the extent of the damage and then advises those affected on how to lodge claims. Subsequently he examines detailed claims including those arising from salvage or inspection. He records all claims and manages the process through to final settlement. Estate surveyors settle individual claims up to £500 but seek financial authority for those over this amount from the Claims Commission.These procedures were followed in the case of Tintagel except that the Claims Commission to avoid delays in the initial stages gave authority to estate surveyors for bills to be met as they arose up to a maximum of 75 per cent. of the estimated cost of repair in each case where there was no dispute.

    Archaeology

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what representations he has received concerning the loss, as a result of his policies, of experienced staff employed in rescue archaeology in Hampshire, the Isle of Wight and adjoining counties; and what action he intends to take.

    Ministers have received five letters from Members, four enclosing a press release from the Wessex archaeological committee. A further three letters have been received by officials. I am reviewing the situation.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what rates of pay are offered to volunteers on archaeological digs within the control of his Department; what proportion of his Department's finances goes into direct excavations; and what is the proportion of excavation grant spent on guardianship sites.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) if he will take steps, in conjunction with the Council for British Archaeology, to institute a formal career structure for archaeology appropriate to its status as a specialised profession; and if he will make funds available to allow archaeology units and others to employ non-supervisory staff at rates appropriate to their skills, and not at subsistence rates as at present;(2) if he will list, by grade, for each year from 1970, the recommended wage rates for archaeologists prescribed by his Department; on what basis, and after what consultations, such rates are calculated; and if he will estimate what proportion of his Department's total expenditure on archaeology went on wages and salaries overall, and for subsistence volunteers in particular for the years 1977 to the current year.

    Whale Products

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether, in view of the overwhelming support for such action expressed by hon. Members, he will now impose a total ban on the import of all whale products.

    I am pleased to say that the United Kingdom has taken the initiative for a European Community ban. As a result a Community regulation banning the importation of primary whale products from 1 January 1982 has been agreed in principle.

    Housing Estates(Heating Systems)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what grants from national funds are available to assist local authorities to replace inefficient and expensive heating systems on their housing estates; what criteria are used in considering applications; and how many grants have been made during each of the past five years for which figures are available.

    No grant or subsidy is at present available to assist local authorities in carrying out works of repair or replacement to their own housing stock.

    Roadford Reservoir

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, leaving out Dartmoor, what alternative sites to the proposed Roadford reservoir are available in Devon to serve North Devon; and if he will list them and the reasons for objections.

    I regret that I do not have full detailed information as it is a matter for the South West water authority to investigate alternative sites. Several alternative sites were mentioned at the public inquiry into the Roadford reservoir, but it would not be appropriate for me to comment on them at the present time.

    Houses (Chimneys)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the local authorities throughout Great Britain which have a policy of providing chimneys in all future new house building.

    The Department does not collect this information.

    Disposals of dwellings in England and Wales by:
    Local authoritiesNew towns
    Built for saleOtherBuilt for saleOtherTotal
    1953 to 195913,10391914,022
    19601,2021,687206743,169
    19611,4462,3492471064,148
    19621,5762,8285571005,061
    19631,1492,5241563294,158
    19641,2532,5642422234,282
    19651,3742,2165062734,369
    19661,1083,7984364835,825
    19671,6673,200548825,497
    19681,4088,57130015510,434
    19691,0607,5302242609,094
    19705856,2313282237,367
    197136316,8516592,49820,371
    197282045,05847615,62761,981
    197361433,7202437,26841,845
    19745044,153606775,394
    19756342,089521752,950
    1976914*4,879†23795,895
    197752512,4952933813,387
    197868529,36012544930,619
    197980040,8603477942,473
    * Includes 268 dwellings sold by one authority between 1974 and 1976.
    † Includes some dwellings "built for sale" sold under shared ownership arrangements.
    No information is available for years prior to 1953.

    Footpath Procedures (Review)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when the Government proposals for the review of foo'tpath procedures will be announced.

    I regret that it has not yet been possible to issue the promised paper describing the amended proposals for revising the definitive map review procedures, but I hope to do so in the future.

    Housing Loans

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion of the houses for which loans were approved in 1979–80 for new and improved houses provided by housing associations under the Housing Corporation were in England, Scotland and Wales, respectively.

    Local Authority And New Town Houses (Sale)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many local authority and new town dwellings have been sold, in each year since 1945, showing separately those built for sale.

    The proportion of Housing Corporation loan approvals in 1979–80, in units, for England, Scotland and Wales, was as follows:

    New Build per centRehabilitation per cent
    England8680
    Scotland1116
    Wales34

    Publicly-Owned Property (Sales)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Dorking on 22 July, whether he will reconsider his practice of treating sale prices as being commercially confidential in the context of public accountability of assets.

    No. The Government follow normal commercial practice and will continue to do so.

    National Parks (Access)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many new access agreements have been negotiated in English national parks in the last 12 months; if he will list them; and if he will list those under discussion at the present time.

    I am informed by the National park authorities that four access agreements have been negotiated in the last 12 months. These are at:

    Heltor Rooks(Dartmoor)
    Shaptor Wood(Dartmoor)
    Grindslow Knoll(Peak District)
    Edale(Peak District)
    Those under discussion are:
    Stops End Wood,
     Rydal(Lake District)
    Extension to Stanley
     Gill, Eskdale(LakeDistrict)
     Harthope Valley(Northumberland)
     Lyke Wake Walk (various sections under different ownerships)(North York Moors)
     Goyt Valley(Peak District)
    Access arrangements which form part of general management agreements are not included in the above.

    County Boundaries

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has to revise the present English county boundaries.

    Under the provisions of the Local Government Act 1972 the Local Government Boundary Commission will initiate a general review of county boundaries in 1984.The commission has made it clear that, in advance of the general review, it will consider changes in county boundaries only in exceptional circumstances. I am not aware of any plans for changes other than minor adjustments.

    Disabled Persons (Access To Buildings)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what funds the Government intend to provide in 1980–81 to improve access for disabled people to public buildings.

    Capital expenditure on local public buildings comes within the locally determined sector, and local authorities therefore have discretion in determining their priorities.As regards national public buildings and ancient monuments in the care of the Department of the Environment no specific funds are allocated for access work, but the Department does provide access and facilities for disabled people as funds and the physical constraints of the buildings allow.In respect of the Government civil office estate, I have nothing to add to the answer I gave the hon. Member for Eccles (Mr. Carter-Jones) on 9 July.—[Vol. 988, c. 223–24.]

    Local Authority Staffs

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what are the highest and lowest levels of staff per thousand in the 36 metropolitan boroughs; and what is the level for the Macclesfield and Congleton borough councils in the county of Cheshire.

    On the basis of information published by the joint manpower watch and the Office of Population Censuses and Surveys, the highest and lowest levels of staff per thousand population in the 36 metropolitan district councils in England appear to be 88–0 and 37–2 respectively; in metropolitan district councils having "borough" status they are 58–8 and 37–2 respectively. The levels for the non-metropolitan district councils of Macclesfield and Congleton are 7–1 and 9–7 respectively. These figures are based on total numbers of staff excluding law and order groups.

    Local Authority Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the cost, expressed as £ sterling per thousand of population, both nationally and regionally, and the cost to the Cheshire county council and Macclesfield and Congleton borough councils, in the following sectors: education, social services, libraries, museums and arts, refuse collection, environmental health, baths, sports and recreation centres, parks and open spaces, housing, non-regional housing account, total local rate and grant-borne expenditure.

    The available information on local authority expenditure per head of population—net revenue budgets for 1980–81—is published by the Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy in "Financial, General and Rating Statistics 1980–81", a copy of which is available through the Library. Regional analyses of expenditure per head by broad service groups can be

    LOCAL AUTHORITY HOUSEBUILDING BY TYPE OF CONTRACT ENGLAND AND WALES AND SCOTLAND: 1974 TO 1979
    Percentage of dwellings approved
    197419751976197719781979 (Provisional)
    England and Wales*:
     Direct Labour schemes6·97·17·97·56·67·0
     Contractors' schemes93192·992·192·593·4930 (January·September)
    Scotland:
     Direct Labour schemes0·21·10·42·01·63·0
     Contractors' schemes99·898·999·698·098·497·0
    * Excluding Greater London Council housebuilding.
    For housebuilding by the Northern Ireland Housing Executive I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland.

    Water And Sewerage Charges

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment, in view of the doubts which have arisen as to whether water and sewerage charges fall to be levied in the case of premises where water supplies and toilet facilities do not exist, and of the implications of the case of the Essex Water Company v. Parisio, which came before the Southend county court on 4 July, if he will take steps to review the law relating to the circumstances in which water and sewerage rates are payable.

    I understand that this case, which concerns sewerage charges, has been set down for a further hearing on 21 August. The matter is therefore still sub judice and consequently it is too early to comment.

    Agré Ment Board

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he found on p98–99; the corresponding figures for Cheshire are on pages C7 and C8.

    Council House Building

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what proportion of council house building in the United Kingdom was represented by (a) direct labour departments of councils and (b) private construction companies in the years since 1974.

    Following is the available information:will now make a statement on the chairmanship of the Agrément Board.

    My right hon. Friend has invited Mr. F. R. Gibb, joint managing director of Taylor Woodrow Ltd., to accept the chairmanship of the council of the Agrément Board from 1 August. I wish to express my appreciation to Mr. W. S. Jones for his valuable services as acting chairman. Further appointments to the council will be made.

    Direct Labour Organisations

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many representations his Department has received about direct labour organisations; and how many of these representations came from Greater Manchester.

    Since the Government introduced legislation on direct labour as part III of the Local Government, Planning and Land Bill the Department has been receiving a continuous flow of representations on this and other provisions of the Bill. Greater Manchester council wrote in February, expressing support in principle for the legislation's objectives of increasing DLO efficiency and competitiveness.Greater Manchester's own Bill now before the House includes a provision which would extend the scope of activity of Manchester city's direct works department. A petition has been presented to the House praying against this clause, and the Department has received five representations against it from various bodies and individuals. I agree with them that the provision is unnecessary and undesirable.

    Transport

    Driver And Vehicle Licensing Centre

    asked the Minister of Transport what has been the average time in each of the last three years between the receipt of an application for a driver's licence and its dispatch by the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre.

    During the last three years the proportion of driving licences issued within 10 working days of the receipt of the application was:

    Per cent.
    197771
    197894
    197994
    These figures exclude periods when performance was disrupted by industrial disputes.

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the present annual cost and the cost of operating the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre and the local licensing centres.

    The approximate total cost of operating the driver licensing and vehicle registration and licensing systems in 1979–80 was £67 million, of which around £35–5 million was in respect of the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Centre, £12–5 million for operating the local vehicle licensing offices and £19 million mainly for support and agency services provided by other Government Departments and bodies.

    Driving Instructors

    asked the Minister of Transport how many driving instructors there are nationally and in each region.

    Figures for persons on the Department's register of approved driving instructors are shown in the following table. Details are also given of numbers of L-test driving examiners in post at 1 July.

    Traffic areaDriving instructorsExaminers in post
    Northern1,13182
    Yorkshire2,091115
    North Western2,742163
    West Midland1,998142
    East Midland2,105120
    Eastern1,41768
    South Wales75950
    Western1,29999
    South Eastern2,493125
    Scottish (North)1,57230
    Scottish (South)74
    Metropolitan5,299303
    National Total22,9061,371

    Driving Tests

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the average waiting time for a driving test nationally and in each region.

    The information is as follows:

    Traffic AreaAverage Waiting Period (weeks)
    Northern13½
    Yorkshire18
    North Western24
    West Midland … …17½
    East Midland … …23½
    Eastern … … …25
    South Wales … …22
    Western … … …24
    South Eastern … …17
    Scottish (North) … …26½
    Scottish (South) … …25½
    Metropolitan … …35
    National average …25½
    The results of our recruitment drive for L-test examiners have become apparent and the rising trend of waiting periods which we inherited has been reversed. But there are still problem areas and more examiners are being recruited to ensure a continuing steady improvement.

    Road Improvements (Wirral)

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will list in the Official Report the current and proposed road improvements, both motorway and dual carriageway, in the Wirral which have relevance to the aim of improving access to and from Northern England and Wales; what is the cost of such works; and if he will make a statement.

    For schemes for which my right hon. Friend and I are responsible, the details asked for are spelt out in paragraph 121 and tables 5 and 6 of "Policy for Roads England 1980", Cmnd. 7908. In summary, construction is in hand on roads in the general area between Wales and the North of England on 6–4 miles of the M56 and 4 miles of the M531—the 100 per cent. grant-aided Ellesmere Port motorway extension. Further improvements are planned to the A5117 (Woodbank Juction), the A41 (Chester) and the A483 between Chester and the Welsh border. The estimated cost of the schemes under construction is some £32 million at current prices, and that of the planned schemes some £11–7 million at 1979 survey prices.Any other schemes in the Wirral to improve roads connecting Wales to the North of England are the responsibility of the local highway authorities.

    Road Traffic Act 1974

    asked the Minister of Transport why he has deferred implementation of section 77 of the Road Traffic Act 1974: and whether he will give reconsideration to this matter.

    I assume that the hon. Member is referring to section 7 of the Road Traffic Act 1974 prohibiting the parking of vehicles on verges, central reservations and footways. Implementation of the section was deferred in July 1979, following representations from local authority associations and the police that the additional tasks of implementation and enforcement should not be imposed when the need to contain public expenditure is overriding.It is too soon to say when local authorities and the police might be in a better position to implement and enforce the section. However, the case for implementation will be kept under review.

    Louth (Bypass)

    asked the Minister of Transport, in the light of his reply to the hon. Member for Louth on 6 December 1979, when he now expects to make an announcement about the preferred route for the Louth bypass.

    I am sorry that it is taking longer than expected to complete our response to public consultation. Although this scheme is one on which preparation work is to be temporarily suspended, I realise the importance of announcing a preferred route so as to dispel uncertainty. I hope to be able to do so during the autumn.

    British Railways (Pensioners)

    asked the Minister of Transport if, in preparing his legislation relating to British Railways' subsidiaries, he will seek to safeguard the position of British Railways' pensioners who currently enjoy special concessions on British Railways, at its hotels, and on its ferries.

    I would expect such concessions to continue after the introduction of private capital into the Railways Board's subsidiaries.

    Social Services

    South West Thames Regional Healthauthority

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the total revenue allocation given so far to the South West Thames regional health authority; how much of this has so far been spent on the Henderson hospital; how much has been allocated for the next two years; and if extra revenue will now be given to the South West Thames regional health authority for the provision of a regional secure psychiatric unit.

    I assume that the hon. Member is referring to the revenue identified for the development of secure regional psychiatric facilities. Since 1976–77, South West Thames regional health authority's total revenue allocation has included the recurring sum of £585,000—at current price levels—for this purpose. I understand that in 1979–80 £50,000 was allocated by the South West Thames RHA to the Henderson hospital; and, in 1980–81, it is expected that approximately £300,000 will be made available. The allocation to the Henderson for future years has not yet been decided. When the region's plans for a regional secure psychiatric unit have been studied, the Department would be willing to consider allocating further RSU funds to the region.

    Hexachlorophene

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what conditions and restrictions govern and control the use of the preparation hexachlorophene in the United Kingdom; and which preparations containing this product are available on doctors' prescription only.

    Human medicines containing hexachlorophene may be recommended only for uses specified in product licences granted under the Medicines Act 1968. They are permitted on general sale only if the level of hexachlorophene does not exceed 0–1 per cent. Where the level is greater but does not exceed 2 per cent. for soaps, 0–1 per cent. for aerosols, or 0–75 per cent. for preparations other than soaps or aerosols, availability is only from pharmacies. Yet higher levels are available only on prescription. Products not on general sale must be labelled "Not to be used for babies" or with a warning that the product is not to be administered to children under two years except on medical advice; they must also be labelled "For external use only".The licensed products available only on prescription are as follows:

    • Remanex Solution
    • Varecourt Suppositories
    • Varecourt Ointment
    • Scheriproct Suppositories
    • Scheriproct Ointment
    • Ultraproct Ointment
    • Ultraproct Suppositories
    • Phisomed Emulsion
    • Phisomed Intraurethal
    • Ficoid Suppositories
    • Ficoid Rectal Ointment
    • Hexachlorophene Concentrated Solution BPC
    • Toracsol Acne Solution
    • Anacal Suppositories
    • Anacal Rectal Ointment

    Emergency Bed Bureau

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the proposal to close the emergency bed bureau on 1 August.

    The Liverpool area health authority (teaching) has been considering economy measures designed to reduce revenue expenditure to a level consistent with the authority's cash limit and while maintaining essential patient services. As part of this exercise, I understand that the authority has agreed that the emergency bed bureau should close on 1 August 1980. Savings of £33,000 are expected to accrue in the current financial year.

    Pornographic Material (Loans)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what evidence he adduces to support individual applications to the Director of Public Prosecutions for the loans of pornographic material for use in treatment or assessment, in the absence of any records indicating the extent of the use of material loaned in previous years and in view of the fact that material loaned this year has not so far been used.(2) why he has kept no records of the number of patients assessed or treated during the last year by the use of pornographic materials obtained from the Director of Public Prosecutions with the prior approval of his Department.

    Such material is loaned by the Director of Public Prosecutions only if this Department is satisfied that it is a necessary part of an assessment or treatment programme. Where there is a continuing need for such material, clinicians have been allowed to retain it for successive patients. Those holding the material will normally keep confidential clinical records of its use. Use of the material loaned during the last year for a particular patient has proved impracticable and it is to be returned to the DPP.

    Private Health Treatment

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what the additional cost per annum for the taxpayer would be if private health treatment did not exist and all patients eligible to be treated under the National Health Service were to be so treated.

    There is insufficient information about total expenditure on private health treatment and types of treatment received by those otherwise eligible for NHS services to enable us to calculate what would be the extra cost to the NHS of providing these services. There are, however, about 31,000 beds in private hospitals and nursing homes providing a range of services from acute medical and surgical care to long-term nursing care. A significant amount of the treatment and care provided in these hospitals and homes would undoubtedly fall to the NHS. The NHS would lose the benefit of income from private patients using NHS hospital facilities, estimated at £40 million for 1980–81. There is also an unknown amount of private general medical and dental practice.

    Benefits

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the November 1979 to November of the current year increase in average earnings; and what is the estimated saving in 1980–81 and in a full financial year of the break between the provision of benefits to long-term sick and disabled people and the rise in earnings.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the cost in a full financial year of making good the shortfall in benefits to disabled people arising from the Government's miscalculation of earnings in the 1979 uprating order.

    If all long-term social security benefits had been increased in November 1979 in line with the increase in average earnings over the previous 12 months, the additional cost in a full year would have been about £195 million. I regret that no separate figure is available in respect of benefits for disabled people.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated gross saving in a full financial year of the change in the linking period designed to make qualifying for invalidity benefit more difficult.

    As I said in my reply—[Vol. 984, c. 99–100]—to the hon. Member for Manchester, Moss Side (Mr. Morton) on 6 May, it was estimated that the changes introduced by clause 3 of the Social Security (No. 2) Bill which received Royal Assent on 7 July, would result in an overall saving of around £20 million in a full year. The changes would also result result in a saving in expenditure on supplementary benefit of around £20 million. The change in the linking period on which these figures were cal- culated was the reduction from 13 to 6 weeks. The move to 8 weeks, introduced during the passage of the Bill, will reduce the overall savings somewhat. Detailed statistical work is being undertaken in this area, but the results are not yet available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) what is the estimated saving in a full financial year from the abolition of exceptional needs payments for disabled people who are not eligible for supplementary benefit;(2) what will be the additional cost in a full financial year in real terms over 1979–80 and 1978–79, respectively, of the announced increase in help for disabled people with their heating costs;(3) what is the saving, in a full financial year, of the reduction in the long-term rates of supplementary benefit as they apply to disabled people;(4) what is the saving in a full financial year of the abolition of the additional supplementary benefit to pay for local authority home helps for disabled people.

    The statistics kept of supplementary benefit claims do not distinguish the disabled, much less the varying degrees of disability found among all ages and groups of supplementary benefit claimants.It follows that I cannot give a figure for the saving on exceptional needs payments to disabled people not eligible for supplementary benefit or for the ending from November of exceptional circumstances additions for local authority home helps. Since, however, total expenditure under these two heads is less than £¾ million a year, the saving in respect of disabled claimants will be less still. Similarly, I cannot give a figure for the saving, so far as the disabled are concerned, from increasing the long-term scale rate to the level of the national insurance pension rate, rather than by increasing it by the same cash amount as the increase of the pension rate.Many who are disabled to a greater or less degree are now receiving heating additions of varying amounts, and will continue to receive the improved and simplified rates payable from November. Also from November a fail-safe mechanism will operate to ensure that, whatever the present rate of heating allowance paid to them, those people on supplementary benefit receiving constant attendance allowance, attendance allowance, or mobility allowance, will receive the £3.40 rate of heating allowance. I cannot give a figure for the cost of the measures as they affect the disabled for the reason already stated. The fail-safe mechanism provides the disabled people concerned with additional requirements of £14 million a year, but the cost may be less than this depending on other resources of these beneficiaries.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the saving in a full financial year from the abolition of earnings-related supplements to sickness benefit payable to disabled people.

    I regret that this information is not available in the form requested. Abolition of the earnings-related supplement to sickness benefit will lead to a reduction in benefit expenditure from the National Insurance Fund of the order of £185 million in the financial year 1982–83. This saving cannot be apportioned between payments made to the disabled and those made to other sickness beneficiaries.

    (a)(b)(c)
    Total number of claimantsClaimants not receiving unemployment benefit*Claimants included in column (b) who are not receiving supplementary benefit
    Leicester11,5006,7002,300
    Leicestershire (including Leicester)15,9008,8003,400
    * Includes 1,600 and 2,100 claimants in Leicester and Leicestershire respectively whose claim for unemployment benefit had not been determined at the date of the count.

    Mobility Allowance

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what date processing was completed of all mobility allowance applications from people aged between 60 and 65 years received before 28 November 1979.

    This information is not available. Our records do not relate the date of decision on a claim to the date that claim was made.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if any eligible applicant for mobility allowance who applied for benefit before 31 December 1979 is still awaiting payment.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the cost in a full financial year of allowing people to qualify for the long-term rate of supplementary benefit after one year instead of two.

    For the purpose of the reform of the supplementary benefit scheme at nil cost, the annual cost element attributed to the reduction of the qualifying period for the long-term scale was £26 million at November 1979 benefit rates. The cost of extending the long-term rate to the unemployed on the same basis would be £65 million.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many people in Leicester and Leicestershire, respectively, are registered unemployed but receive (a) no unemployment benefit and (b) neither unemployment benefit nor supplementary benefit, respectively, at the latest date for which figures are available.

    At 8 May 1980, the latest date for which figures are available, information in respect of claims made at unemployment benefit offices is as follows:

    Morris asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the increase in (a) the retail price index and (b) the motoring index between the 1978 and current year up-ratings of mobility allowance; by how much in cash terms mobility allowance will exceed after the current year uprating the amount before the 1978 uprating increased in line with (a) and (b) respectively; and what is the consequent additional cost to his Department in a full financial year.

    The increase in the retail price index from July 1978 to November 1980 is estimated to be 39–8 per cent. The Government make no forecast of the transport and vehicle group index, but the actual increase in that index from July 1978 to June 1980, which is the latest figure available, was 40–9 per cent; the increase in the retail price index for the same period was 34–1 per cent.The rate of mobility allowance before July 1978 was £7 a week. Raising this by the estimated increase in the RPI would mean that the rate this November would be £9–80; it will, in fact, be £14–50. The additional annual cost of paying the extra £4–70 a week to the estimated 180,000 people who will be receiving the allowance in November is about £44 million.As no forecast is available of the transport and vehicle group index, it is not possible to estimate how much this November's rate of mobility allowance will be greater than the rate applying before the 1978 uprating if that had been increased only in line with the rise in the transport and vehicle group index.

    Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his estimate of the reduction of expenditure by local authorities on services for disabled people in 1980–81 as a result of Government policy not to give priority to the personal social services.

    Information on local authority budgets for 1980–81 is not available centrally in sufficient detail to enable an estimate to be made of the likely expenditure on services for the disabled. However, those budgets, which authorities have been asked to revise downwards to bring the total in line with the Government's overall target, gave a higher priority to personal social services as a whole than that tentatively suggested in the Government's expenditure plans.

    Dentists And Opticians (Code Of Practice)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will draw up a code of practice with dentists and opticians to ensure National Health Service consumers are clearly made aware when they are obtaining treatment and purchasing commodities not covered by the National Health Service.

    No. It is for the professions to draw up codes of practice for their members. The General Dental Council in its notice for the guidance of dentists has stated its view that it is the responsibility of the dentist to bring to the attention of the patient the nature of the contract—that is, whether he has been accepted to receive treatment under the NHS or privately.The General Optical Council has not found it necessary to issue similar guidance, but the Association of Optical Practitioners has advised its members that patients should be clearly told what glasses are available under the NHS.

    Prescription Charges

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated increase in income in a full financial year (a) in total and (b) derived from registered disabled people from raising prescription charges to £1 from 20p.

    The estimated total additional income in England in a full financial year is about £89 million.Although there are just over 1 million registered disabled people in England, it is not possible to say with any accuracy what their prescription needs are or how many of them are entitled to exemption from prescription charges on age, low income or medical grounds. Others whose prescription needs are high may make use of the prepayment certificate arrangements.

    Disabled Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the additional cost in real terms in 1980–81 of the increase in grants made by the Department of Health and Social Security to voluntary bodies directly concerned with helping disabled people.

    It is my right hon. Friend's general aim to maintain in real terms the Department's planned total level of expenditure on grants to voluntary organisations. Within this total, some organisations would get real terms increases and some not, depending on such factors as the Department's policy on section 64 grants and its assessment of an organisation's income and expenditure.Precise figures for 1980–81 are not yet available, but the latest position on grants to date to all voluntary organisations for

    1980–81 and actual grants given in 1979–80 are shown in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Aberdeen, South (Mr. Sproat) on 22 July.—[Vol. 989, c.

    189–98.]

    Acute Beds

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services which of the two ratios of acute beds per thousand of the population attributed to the North East Thames regional health authority in the answer to the hon. Member for Middleton and Prestwich (Mr. Callaghan), Official Report, 17 July, col. 633, relates properly to that regional health authority and which relates to the North West Thames regional health authority, which has been omitted from the list.

    The first entry for North East Thames regional health authority was correct; the second was a misprint and should have read "North West Thames—3.01".

    Deaf And Hearing-Impaired Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services, further to his statement to the hon. Member for Manchester, Moss Side (Mr. Morton), on 9 July, that it would not be right to exempt the deafness group from the effects of the Government's campaign to reduce the number of civil servants, what staff changes have been made in his Department affecting the administrative work related to services for deaf people; what is the saving in expenditure; and what consultation he had with the organisations of deaf and hearing-impaired people before the changes were made.

    Jenkin: In accordance with the Government's policy of producing a smaller, more streamlined and efficient Civil Service, the number of staff in the DHSS has been reduced, including a senior administrative post in the branch dealing with services for disabled people at a saving of approximately £14,000 a year. Although I am aware that concern has been expressed by some organisations for the deaf and hearing-impaired, I am satisfied that services for the deaf and hearing-impaired and advice to Ministers in this field will not be prejudiced.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consultation he had with interested organisations before deciding to wind up the advisory committee on services for hearing-impaired people; what views he was given; and what saving in public expenditure will result from winding-up this important advisory committee.

    The decision to wind up the advisory committee on services for hearing-impaired people (ACSHIP) was taken following the Government's review of all non-departmental bodies. Although the review concluded that ACSHIP was one of the bodies which should be discontinued, it was made clear that it would not be wound up until it had completed any business in hand. This means that ACSHIP will continue to function until later this year, when the sub-committee which is currently considering services for hearing-impaired children is expected to present its report.I am greatly indebted to ACSHIP for its major contribution during the past five or six years to the steady improvement in services for hearing-impaired people. However, we are now in a position where we can see broadly the measures that are needed to maintain this improvement as and when resources permit.Expenditure on ACSHIP, including departmental staff costs and members' expenses, has varied from year to year. In 1978–79 and 1979–80, the estimated costs were £3,400 and £5,300 respectively.

    Family Income Supplement

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many families in the East Midlands and East Anglia social security administration region receive family income supplement; how many children are in the families; and how many are one-parent families at the latest date for which figures are available.

    The latest date for which information is available is March 1980. There were 8,630 families, containing 19,360 children, in receipt of family income supplement in the East Midlands and East Anglia region. The number of one-parent families was 4,480, and they contained 7,550 children.

    Supplementary Allowance And Pension

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) if he will list in the Official Report the number of recipients of supplementary allowance in Leicester, the number of recipients of supplementary allowance in Leicestershire and the number of recipients of supplementary allowance in Great Britain at the latest date for which figures are available;(2) if he will list in the

    Official Report the number of recipients of supplementary pension in Leicester, the number of recipients of supplementary pension in Leicestershire and the number of recipients of supplementary pension in Great Britain at the latest date for which figures are available.

    Information relating to Leicester can be given only in respect of claimants receiving benefit from offices situated within Leicester, even though some recipients live elsewhere in the country. With that proviso, the information requested is in the following table:

    RECIPIENTS OF SUPPLEMENTARY PENSION AND ALLOWANCE, FEBRUARY 1980
    AreaRecipients of Supplementary pensionRecipients of Supplementary allowance
    Leicester17,60013,800
    Leicestershire20,90015,800
    Great Britain1,704,0001,179,000

    Homoeopathic Medicines

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what United Kingdom and European Economic Community regulations exist regulating the sale and supply of homoeopathic medicines.

    The sale and supply of homoeopathic medicinal products in the United Kingdom law is controlled under the Medicines Act 1968 and relevant subordinate legislation. European Community pharmaceutical directive requirements however, do not apply.

    National Insurance Fund

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will list the estimated surplus in the national insurance fund at the time of the benefits up-rating orders in each of the past 10 years, comparing these with estimate surpluses at the time of contribution orders.

    Government Actuary reports on benefit uprating orders and contributions rerating orders have been issued since the Social Security Act 1975. Copies of the reports are in the House of Commons Library. The reports set out estimates of the income and outgo for the current year and the following year. Where the surplus or deficit for the following year estimated in the report on the benefits uprating differs appreciably from the estimate given in the preceding report on the contributions order, the reports give an explanation of the main reasons for the amended estimate.

    Essex (Day Centres)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in view of the decision of Essex county council to impose a charge of 25p per day on the mentally and physically handicapped for attendance at the local authority day centres, he will consider a recommendation to the Supplementary Benefits Commission that these charges be recoverable from supplementary benefit; and if he will make a statement.

    The imposition of such charges is at the discretion of local authorities, which have powers to abate or waive the charges having regard to the individual's means. The Supplementary Benefits Commission has long held the view that charges for local authority services should not be imposed on people living at supplementary benefit level or, where they are, that they should not cause hardship and should not be imposed on the basis that they will be met by additional supplementary benefit. I agree with this view and do not therefore propose to make any recommendation to the commission regarding current supplementary benefit policy. From November, the regulations will not allow for such charges to be met by increases in supplementary benefit payments.

    Fluoridation

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is his Department's current policy regarding fluoridation of water supplies; and if he will make a statement

    Present policy follows that of successive Governments since 1962 in encouraging area health authorities to seek the introduction of fluoridation, and 85 out of 90 have decided to do so, although so far only 9 per cent. of the population of Britain receive fluoridated water. Water authorities are encouraged to comply with the requests of health authorities. The Government are convinced of the safety and efficacy of fluoridation, but would prefer to proceed with the consent of those concerned. They have no plans for legislation to make it compulsory.

    HEALTH AND PERSONAL SOCIAL SERVICES, ENGLAND, 1978–79
    NET CURRENT EXPENDITURE ON SERVICES FOR THE MENTALLY HANDICAPPED (November 1978 prices)
    Total£300 million
    NHS hospital services (adults and children)£227 million, £4,860 per occupied bed
    Local authority residential accommodation
    (i) for children£10 million, £6,090 per child
    (ii) for adults£23 million, £1,890 per resident
    Adult training centres£40 million, £950 per place
    These figures do not take account of services which cater for a range of client groups—eg social workers, family practitioner services—where expenditure cannot centrally be allocated to a particular client group or of allowances—eg mobility allowances paid for mentally handicapped children.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the latest estimate of the numbers of children classified as (a) mentally retarded, and (b) educationally subnormal, indicating the numbers in both categories.

    The term "mentally retarded" is not a recognised classification in England.I understand from my right hon. and learned Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science that in January 1979 there were 106,804 children in England ascertained as educationally subnormal receiving special educational treatment or awaiting placement in special schools.

    Retirement Pension

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services by how much the value of a retirement pension for (a) a single person and (b) a married couple has changed since December 1979 in real terms.

    On the basis of the movement of the general index of retail prices from December 1979 to June 1980, the latest date to which a figure is available,

    Mentally Retarded Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for mentally retarded children in England.

    The financial data available centrally, which only partially identify expenditure on services for mentally handicapped children, are as follows:the value of the retirement pension has fallen by 11 per cent., from £23–30 to £20–99 in the case of the pension for a single person, and from £37–30 to £33–61 in the case of a married couple.

    Northern Ireland

    Electricity Generation

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, by phasing out the use of gas derived from either coal or oil feedstocks, by how much it is expected that spare electricity generating capacity will be utilised.

    It is anticipated that there will be some increase in electricity demand in Northern Ireland due to the rundown of the gas industry. However, it is not possible accurately to forecast the extent of this increase as it will depend on the phasing of the rundown of the gas industry and the choices of individual consumers. It is not expected to be sufficient to absorb all spare generating capacity, particularly in view of the recent downward revision of forecast electricity demand.

    Sport And Physical Recreation

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement giving the number of civil servants and the annual cost to public funds of the salaries and administrative costs attributable to the administration of sport and physical recreation in Northern Ireland by the Department of Education in each of the past six years;

    why the number of civil servants is greater than in the equivalent Departments in England, Scotland and Wales together; and whether he could achieve his stated objectives of giving more authority to district councils, reducing duplication and saving money by adopting a simpler system of controlling local authority capital expenditure instead of by abolishing the Sports Council's technical services.

    It is not possible to separate entirely the costs attributable to

    (i) Capital provision of community facilities by district councils.
    (ii) Capital provision of community facilities in the Belfast area of need.
    (iii) Recurrent grant-aid to Belfast playcentres.
    (iv) Joint-provision of community/education facilities by district councils and education and library boards.
    YearNumber of staffSalaries £'000Administrative costs £'000
    1974–7511331
    1975–7611435
    1976–7714626
    1977–78*221009
    1978–79*2311410
    1979–80*3420317
    In 1979–80 these staff were responsible for the disbursement of £7–7 on the provision of community sport and recreational facilities. The numbers involved reflect the different structure and funding of central and local government in Nothern Ireland compared with Great Britain. The financial controls and administrative rules operating between the Department and district councils were simplified in 1978 to allow district councils more freedom of action within certain categories of project. These controls and rules are reviewed regularly to ensure that they are kept to the minimum required for the proper disbursement of public funds.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will publish a breakdown of the total cost to public funds, including staff time and overtime, of the Northern Ireland Department of Education's involvement in staging exhibitions to promote sport and physical recreation during each of the past six years; and why such exhibitions were mounted by the Department rather than by the Sports Council.

    Since 1978, when the first exhibition was arranged, the Department of Education has been involved in four exhibitions to illustrate the range of sport and physical recreational facilities the administration of sport and physical recreation in Northern Ireland by the Department of Education since the section responsible for this function was amalgamated in 1976 with the section responsible for the administration of a range of schemes for the provision of community social facilities.Hence for the years marked * in the table below the staff numbers and associated costs relate to the administration of the following functions, in addition to sport and physical recreation.which have been provided by district councils, voluntary sports clubs and education and library boards with substantial financial assistance from the Department. Since responsibility for the provision of such facilities rests with these bodies it was considered appropriate that the Department should mount these exhibitions rather than the Sports Council which exercises an advisory role in relation to capital provision. The total cost to public funds, including staff time and overtime were as follows:

    £
    1977–78700
    1978–7912,000
    1979–8015,400
    1980–81 (to date)8,200
    36,300

    Western Health And Social Services Board

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) who is responsible for shortlisting applicants for vacancies in the administrative staff of the Western Health and Social Services Board; and who is responsible for choosing the interviewing panel;(2) if he is satisfied that the appointments to administrative posts made by the Western Health and Social Services Board over the last 12 months have been in accordance with the recognised standards of equal and fair opportunity of employment; and what steps are taken to ensure that there is equal and fair opportunity for all applicants.

    I am satisfied that the appointments made over the last 12 months have been in accordance with the recognised standards. Under a code of employment procedure, appointments to all posts in the health and personal social services must be made by health and social services boards in accordance with standard selection and appointment procedures, which are designed specifically to ensure fairness in appointments and equality of employment opportunity without regard to religious political or racial considerations. Depending upon the level of appointment to be made appointment panels can comprise board members and/or officers selected by the board or its chief or district administrative officer as laid down by the procedures. Panels for senior appointments must also include the director of the NI Staffs Council—or his representative—and independent assessors selected by the board from lists maintained by the Staffs Council. The shortlisting of applicants for vacancies in the administrative staff of the Western Board is undertaken by shortlisting and appointment panels constituted in accordance with the procedures.

    Gas Exploration

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many licences have been granted for gas exploration off the coast of Northern Ireland; if he will list the licence holders; and if it is his policy that all gas discovered will be piped first to Northern Ireland.

    The holder of the one petroleum licence issued is Energy Sources (Northern Ireland) Ltd. It is a condition of the licence that any gas discovered must be delivered on shore in Northern Ireland.

    Gas Supplies

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what alternative methods to a gas pipeline for the provision of energy to Northern Ireland have been proposed to his Department; what alternative methods his Department is considering; and if he will make a statement.

    Other proposals which have been made recently are for the tidal generation of electricity from Strangford Lough and for interconnection of the Northern Ireland and Great Britain electricity systems. The first of these is now being studied by the Northern Ireland economic council with the encouragement of the Department of Commerce. The second has been examined on a number of occasions in the past and is being looked at again as part of the wider review of the electricity industry in Northern Ireland now under way.

    Prisoners (Suicides)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many people have committed suicide while serving prison sentences in Northern Ireland prisons in each year since 1970; what were their names; what was the crime they had committed; at which prison they were imprisoned; how they had committed suicide; how long their sentence was; and how much of their sentence they had served.

    Service Personnel (Imprisonment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many Service men convicted of offences in Northern Ireland have been sentenced and imprisoned since 1969.

    I refer the hon. Member to the reply given to her question on 26 June by my hon. Friend the Under-Secretary of State for Defence for the Army. I have no further information to add.—[Vol. 987, c. 281.]

    Children (Remedial Education)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for remedial education of children of school age.

    The information is not readily available and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Harland And Wolff

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will specify in the Official Report the delivery dates for each of the three ferries and the two LPG carriers currently under production at Harland and Wolff, the nature of any penalty clauses for late delivery and the cost to public funds of any subvention from the shipbuilding industry fund required to secure these orders.

    [pursuant to his reply, 7 July 1980, c. 83]: The performance of a shipbuilding contract is a commercial matter between the company and its customers. The final contract delivery dates, beyond which delays may give rise to penalty payments, are not yet known, as they are subject to mutually agreed revision, for example under force majeure provisions.I can confirm that intervention aid was committed in the case of the three ferries, but it is not the Government's practice to disclose either the amount of assistance provided towards individual orders, or details of individual contracts such as penalty clauses.

    Mentally Retarded Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for mentally retarded children in Northern Ireland.

    This information is not readily available and could be provided only at disproportionate cost.

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what is the latest estimate of the numbers of children classified as (a) mentally retarded and (b) educationally subnormal, indicating the numbers in both categories.

    Homosexuality

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether, in view of the decisive vote in the House to bring the law on homosexuality in Scotland in line with the law in England and Wales, he will now urgently consider reforming the law in Northern Ireland.

    Scotland

    Local Authority Housing Estates (Heating Systems)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what grants are available through his Department to enable Scottish local authorities to replace inefficient and expensive heating systems on their housing estates; what criteria are used in considering applications; and how many grants have been made during each of the past five years for which figures are available.

    There is no specific grant available for such work, but any expenditure so incurred is taken into account in the calculation of housing support grant.

    Roadworks

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will list the road bypasses now awaiting expenditure approval; and if he will show against each his present estimate of cost;(2) if he will list major roadworks now awaiting expenditure approval; and if he will show against each his present estimate of cost.

    The major trunk roadworks and bypasses in the present four-year programme are listed in the appendix to the document "Roads in Scotland 1980" placed in the Library of the House on 5 June. I am writing to the hon. Member with details of the estimated costs for each scheme. These must be regarded as very provisional, particularly for the later years of the trunk road programme, since the route and the design of many schemes have still to be established.

    Municipal Swimming Pools

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many municipal swimming pools have been constructed in each year in the period 1970 to 1979; and how many are planned for construction in each of the next three years.

    The number of swimming pools provided by local authorities and opened in each year was as follows:

    19707
    19716
    197210
    19737
    19749
    19757
    19763
    19771
    19783
    19791
    These figures exclude swimming pools provided in schools and other educational establishments.The provision to be made in future years is a matter for decision by individual local authorities within the resources available to them.

    Housing Standards

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the number of public and private sector houses, respectively, which lack central heating; and what is his estimate of the cost of installing full central heating in the average four apartment local authority house, giving costs, for gas, electricity, and coal.

    Approximately 700,000 in the public sector, and 600,000 in the private sector. The average cost of installing full central heating fuelled by gas or solid fuel is £1,650 at current prices. Full electric central heating is now rarely installed and costs are not available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the number of public sector houses below accepted standards of insulation; and what is his estimate of the cost of insulating an average four-apartment house up to accepted standard.

    Approximately 480,000 public sector houses with loft spaces have less loft insulation than the current Building Standards (Scotland) Regulations requirement of 50 mm (2 inches). The average cost of providing loft insulation in a typical 2-storey, 4-apartment house is between £75 and £85.

    District General Hospitals

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the completion date and cost of the latest district general hospital constructed in Scotland.

    Inverclyde Royal hospital, Greenock, was handed over to the Argyll and Clyde health board in September 1978 and admitted its first patients in July 1979. The latest estimate of the cost of the hospital is about £14 million, including fees and equipment.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many new district general hospitals were identified as necessary in the 1962 hospital plan for Scotland; how many have been completed; how many are in an advanced planning stage; how many are in preliminary planning stages; how many have now been removed from the list of proposed projects; and if he will name the hospitals which fall into each category.

    The 1962 hospital plan for Scotland identified 10 new district hospitals to be built in Scotland. These were, with their current status:Inverness—phase I complete, phase II under construction.Dumfries—complete.Ayr—preliminary planning stage.Kilmarnock—under construction (North Ayrshire DGH).Coatbridge—complete (Monklands DGH).Motherwell—preliminary planning stage.Greenock—complete (Inverclyde Royal hospital).Paisley—under construction.Kirkcaldy—complete (Victoria hospital).West Lothian—advanced planning stage.Ninewells hospital, Dundee, was also included in the plan as a new teaching hospital. It is complete.

    Industrial Development Sites

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list sites in Scotland which have been earmarked for industrial development but which still require basic services; and if he is able to give an estimate of the costs involved in servicing these sites.

    The Industrial Development Division of the Scottish Economic Planning Department receives voluntary half-yearly returns from local authorities of sites and buildings available for industrial development in their areas, but not in sufficient detail to show the availability or cost of services for each site.

    Environmental Improvement

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he is able to estimate, at constant prices, the Scottish local authority programme of environmental improvement in each year from 1970 to 1980; and what is his estimate of expenditure over the next three years.

    The following table shows capital expenditure by local authorities on derelict land clearance, environmental recovery and environmental improvement from 1970–71 to 1979–80 at 1979 survey prices:

    £ million
    1970–713–1
    1971–722–4
    1972–737–8
    1973–7417–4
    1974–757–2
    1975–767–7
    1976–772–4
    1977–782–2
    1978–790–3
    1979–80
    (

    all figures are rounded to the nearest £0.1m)

    From December 1975 this work became the responsibility of the Scottish Development Agency. The amounts for 1976–77 and later years are almost entirely residual expenditure on schemes committed before that date.

    No provision has been made in Command 7841 for significant capital expenditure by local authorities on this work in the coming years, though authorities are free to implement schemes within the resources available to them for general services capital expenditure if they wish.

    Unemployment Statistics

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing Scottish unemployment at the latest available date when compared with the same month in each of the past 10 years.

    On 10 July 1980 total unemployment in Scotland was 236,300 and seasonally adjusted unemployment 205,200. Information for previous years is published in the Scottish Abstract of Statistics.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) if he will publish a table showing the number of unemployed, and the unemployment per- centage rate, in each employment exchange area of Scotland; and if he will show how the figures for each area compare with the same month in each of the past 10 years;(2) if he will publish a table showing the number of notified vacancies in each employment exchange area of Scotland; and if he will show how the figures for each area compare with the same month in each of the past five years.

    The cost of providing this information on such a comprehensive basis would be disproportionate. I shall, however, write to the hon. Member with the current month's figures as soon as possible.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many construction industry workers are unemployed in Scotland.

    On 8 May 1980, the latest date for which this information is available; 28,824 people who last worked in the construction industry were registered as unemployed in Scotland.

    Fishing Fleet (Fuel Consumption)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is his estimate of the Scottish fishing fleet's annual fuel consumption at the latest available date; and what was the cost of a standard measure of diesel oil in each of the last five years.

    Statistics of fuel consumption are not collected by my Department, but the amount of diesel fuel currently used by the fishing fleet is estimated to be about 180 million litres per annum.There is no uniform price for diesel oil throughout Scotland. The following are typical prices reported to my Department for the north-western area:

    Pence per litre
    July 19766–28
    July 19778–21
    July 19788–21
    July 197912–26
    July 198015–09

    Rates

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what was the total amount raised in the latest year for which figures are available by, respectively, domestic and industrial rates in Scotland.

    Estimated rate income for 1979–80 on domestic subjects is £259–1 million, and on industrial and freight subjects £91–7 million. These figures form only part of the total estimated income from rates, which is £720–5 million.

    Council Tenancies

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many owner-occupiers of previously rented council houses have reapplied for council tenancies, having been unable to meet their repayments, in the last year for which statistics are available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many owner-occupiers have applied for council tenancies in the last year for which statistics are available.

    Tourist Industry (Grants)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the present range of grants available to the Scottish tourist industry; and what is the total amount of grants paid in each of the last five years.

    Financial assistance is available for tourism projects in the form of grants and loans from the Scottish Tourist Board and the Highlands and Islands Development Board. Payments made or approved are as follows:

    SCOTTISH TOURIST BOARD
    Financial yearGrants given under section 4 of the Development of Tourism Act 1969Loans given under section 4 of 1969 ActHotel development grants under the now defunct Part II of 1969 Act
    £££
    1975–76555,18017,000395,173
    1976–77695,0895,00074,938
    1977–78955,11845,00055,959
    1978–791,216,55083,500335
    1979–801,648,5001,500

    HIGHLAND AND ISLANDS DEVELOPMENT BOARD

    Calendar year

    Grants under section 8 of the Highlands and Islands Development (Scotland) Act 1965

    Loans under section 8 and share capital participation

    ££
    19751,100,000600,000
    19761,200,0001,000,000
    19771,986,1481,195,455
    19782,912,2691,079,056
    19792,562,0001,176,000

    The Scottish Development Agency is able to give loans for the purchase and improvement of tourist accommodation through its small business division. Local authorities, and other bodies such as the Countryside Commission for Scotland, the Scottish Sports Council, the Scottish Arts Council and the National Trust for Scotland can also give financial help to projects which assist the tourist industry, directly or indirectly.

    Hotels And Boarding Houses(Fire Precautions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the total amount of grant paid at the nearest available date to assist hotels and boarding houses to meet their obligations under fire safety Acts; and how many establishments still require to meet the basic standards of fire prevention.

    According to information provided by the fire authorities, 353 of the 4,492 establishments subject to the Fire Precautions (Hotels and Boarding Houses) (Scotland) Order 1972 had still to receive a fire certificate at 30 June; 313 of these had been inspected with a view to certification. There are no Exchequer grants payable in connection with the order.

    Inshore Waters (Pollution)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has made an estimate of the capital cost required to eliminate or vastly reduce pollution of inshore waters from presently inadequate sewerage outfalls.

    No. Since water and sewerage are the responsibility of regional and islands councils, it is for them to work out locally the cost and practicability of individual projects.

    Crimes Of Violence

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many murders were made known to the police and how many persons convicted of murder, culpable homicide and violence, respectively, in the most recent annual period for which figures are available; and what

    Murders made known to the policePersons against whom charge proved MurderCulpable homicideCrimes of violence*
    195914614647
    196016521773
    196114413788
    196227916897
    196316216900
    1964278151,061
    19653215191,179
    19663022291,274
    19674126271,483
    19684125211,502
    19693122361,336
    19702925421,317
    19714540141,408
    19724733311,432
    19734333371,356
    19743835341,289
    19754737261,284
    19766341421,256
    19776750321,049
    19784839301,388
    197947†32†29†1,193†
    * Murder, attempted murder, culpable homicide, serious assault, threats, rape, assault with intent to ravish, indecent assault.
    † Provisional.

    Herring

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether he will inquire into the decision by the Scottish fish producers' organisation to finance the withholding of herring from the market and its sale at a lower price in France out of funds allocated under the temporary aid scheme for the industry.

    It is within the power of a producer organisation to buy its members' fish and market it on their behalf. During the present Clyde herring fishery the Scottish Fishermen's Organisation has on occasion done this and marketed the fish abroad, including in France. The transport costs involved in such transactions do not, however, constitute a proper charge on the fish producers' organisations subsidy scheme, and my officials have informed the SFO accordingly.

    A74—M74

    were the comparable figures in each of the previous 20 years.

    The figures for the numbers of murders made known to the police and the numbers of persons against whom these crimes were proved for each year from 1959 to 1979 are set out in the following table.the capital cost of fully lighting the remaining unlit stretches of the A74-M74: and what would be the capital cost of completing the erection of a central barrier on this road.

    If it were decided that such work was cost-effective and technically feasible, the estimated costs at November 1979 prices would be at least—

    £m
    1. Fully lighting the remaining unlit stretches of the A74/M74 trunk road in Scotland4–0
    2. Completing the erection of a central barrier on the A74/M74 trunk road in Scotland2–0

    Fishing Industry

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, in view of the fact that fish is being imported into the United Kingdom from Holland by container vehicles and offered at prices lower than the market prices at the quayside for fish caught by British fishermen, what steps he proposes to take in order to safeguard the livelihood of the members of the fishing industry.

    There is no action that can be taken to interfere with normal trading in fish products with the Netherlands or with any other EC Member State. In the case of imports from third countries we have already successfully argued within the Community for increases in tariff levels and reference prices. I am confident that the Commission will take steps to ensure that the new reference prices are respected. The Government are meantime urgently considering the fishing industry's request for further aid.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what further progress has been made regarding the application by the Scottish Fishermen's Federation for further aid in order to prevent the extinction of the industry; and if he will make a statement; (2) if he will bring forward proposals to support the Scottish fishing industry, in view of the fact that many boats have now been laid up as a result of the very low prices being offered for landed fish.

    Fisheries Ministers are considering urgently the case for further aid which had been put to us by the Scottish Fishermen's Federation and other organisations on behalf of the fishing industry. We hope to announce a decision very soon.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish the figures of all fish which was withdrawn from sale at the markets in Peterhead and Fraserburgh during the month of June 1980; what proportion was sold for fish-meal; and if he will make a statement.

    The total amount of fish of all species withdrawn from the human consumption market at Peterhead and Fraserburgh during June 1980 because of failure to reach the minimum price was 210 tonnes, all of which was sent for fish-meal. This amount is about 2 per cent. by weight of total landings at the two ports during the same month.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will take steps to ensure that the market prices at the quaysides of Peterhead and Fraserburgh are realistic for each of the species offered for sale; and if he will make a statement.

    I am aware of the concern of fishermen in this matter, but market prices are determined by market forces and I have no powers to regulate their level. Withdrawal—or minimum—prices are fixed annually by the EC Commission after consultation with Member States for the major species of fish and it is also open to producer organisations to set their own autonomous withdrawal prices, as most producer organisations have done.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations he has received from the Scottish Fishermen's Federation regarding additional aid for the 80 new members of that organisation to maintain a minimum price guarantee at the quayside sales; and if he will make a statement.

    The Scottish Fishermen's Organisation wrote to me on 18 July about the distribution of the funds set aside under the fish producers' organisations subsidy scheme to take account of newly-formed organisations and of increases in the membership of existing organisations between 1 January and 30 June 1980. The reserve is for the United Kingdom as a whole and will be allocated as soon as all the organisations have submitted the necessary information.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what discussions his Agriculture and Fisheries Department has had with the buyers and the fishermen at the ports of Peterhead and Fraserburgh concerning the fact that the majority of the seagoing vessels are being tied up at these ports due to the unsatisfactory prices being offered to the fishermen for landed fish.

    My Department's Sea Fisheries Inspectorate is in close touch with developments at the ports and keeps me informed of the position.

    Inner Urban Areas

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the Government's policy in relation to inner urban areas in Scotland.

    The Government recognise that many inner urban areas suffer particularly from industrial decline, environmental dereliction, and social deprivation. We have continued our support for the Glasgow eastern area renewal (GEAR) project, and have maintaned for 1980–81 the real value of the urban programme, most of which goes to inner urban areas, and to the Clydeside conurbation in particular.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will list in the

    Designated districtHome population mid 1979*Houses below tolerable standard March 1979† Per cent.Unemployment 10 July 1980‡ Per cent.
    Clydebank52,8352–8121
    City of Dundee190,79310–411–9
    Dumbarton79,2591–2150
    City of Glasgow794,31612–5121
    Hamilton107,4902–515–3
    Inverclyde102,5981–914–0
    Monklands109,6451–215–3
    Motherwell150,8572–815–3
    Renfrew214,5343–910–9
    * Figures supplied by the Registrar General for Scotland.
    † Figures calculated from the District Summary Table in Scottish Housing Statistics, No. 6, Second Quarter 1979.
    ‡ Figures supplied by Manpower Services Commission. Employment statistics are generally for larger areas than local government districts. In particular Clydebank and Glasgow are in the same area; and so are Hamilton, Motherwell and most of Monklands.
    There is no information for districts on socio-economic characteristics of households more recent than the 1971 census. The only up-to-date information on derelict land is for Glasgow district, where at the end of 1979 there were 1,792 hectares of vacant land.

    asked the Secretary of of State for Scotland what was the approved expenditure under the Inner Urban Areas Act 1978, per annum for (a) capital expenditure and (b) current expenditure.

    The only approved expenditure has been in 1979–80 for one loan of £20,000, under section 2 of the Act. Local authorities may however have made other such loans from their general services allocation, without the need to seek specific approval.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what has been the approved expenditure under the urban programme to date (a) for social and environmental projects and (b) for principally economic projects.

    Official Report, in respect of inner urban areas ( a) the designated districts and ( b) (i) details of the numbers of people in each district, (ii) the socio-economic characteristics of households in each district, (iii) the unemployment rate in each district, (iv) the proportion of substandard housing stock in each district and (v) the amount of derelict land in each district.

    In the financial years 1977–78, 1978–79 and 1979–80 approved expenditure under the urban programme has amounted to £14,547,203, of which 90 per cent. related to social and environmental projects and 10 per cent. to principally economic projects. Information for earlier years is not readily available.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the availability of European Economic Community assitance for areas of urban decay in Scotland and specifically list (a) projects approved under the European Economic Community's regional programme, (b) total assistance (i) capital and (ii) current, resulting from approved projects, (c) projects approved under the European Economic Community's poverty programme and (d) total assistance (i) capital and (ii) current, resulting from the approved projects.

    There is no scheme of European Community assistance specifically for areas of urban decay as such, but qualifying infrastructure projects in these areas can be assisted under the European regional development fund. Since 1975 grants totalling £83 million have been made from the fund towards capital expenditure on infrastructure projects throughout Scotland; a breakdown of this total showing projects which could be said specifically to relate to urban decay would present practical difficulties and is not available. Fund assistance is not available for current expenditure.The projects approved under the Community's anti-poverty programme and expenditure (all of it current) to date are as follows:Craigmillar Festival Society—£563,900Social and Community Development Programmer—£223,065In both cases 50 per cent. of the cost is met by the EEC, 25 per cent. by the Scottish Office and 25 per cent. by Lothian regional council.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will make a statement on the role of the Scottish Development Agency in urban renewal projects in Scotland, together with itemised expenditure in each project.

    The agency is co-ordinator of the Glasgow eastern area renewal project and is in discussion with the local authorities concerned with a view to establishing integrated urban renewal projects in Dundee and Leith. The agency's expenditure to date and its estimate of its future commitment to these projects is as follows:

    Expenditure to date £Estimated expenditure to 1983 £
    GEAR22,161,00039,000,000
    Dundee6,500,000
    Leith62,0007,500,000
    In addition, the agency has established task forces to ackle the industrial and environmental problems of Clydebank and the Garnock valley, respectively.

    Remedial Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for remedial education of children of school age.

    Matrimonial Home And Domestic Violence (Legislation)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, now that the Scottish Law Commission has produced its report and draft Bill on occupancy rights in the matrimonial home and domestic violence, he will give an undertaking that legislation on this subject will be introduced in the next Session of Parliament.

    My right hon. Friend is considering urgently the possibility of Government legislation on this subject.

    Prisoners (Suicides)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many people have committed suicide while serving prison sentences in Scottish prisons in each year since 1970; what were their names; what was the crime they had committed; at which prison they were imprisoned; how they committed suicide; how long their sentence was; and how much of their sentence they had served.

    The information requested is below, except for the prisoners' names. It is not my right hon. Friend's policy to disclose the names of prisoners in these circumstances.

    Year

    Number

    Offence

    Prison

    Method

    Sentence

    Period served

    19701Fraud, theft, contravention of Road Traffic Act 1960PerthSelf-strangulation15 months plus 3 months consecutive11 months
    19711TheftBarlinnieSelf-strangulation6 months2 days
    1972Nil
    19731MurderPerthInhalation of glue solventLife3 years 5 months
    1974Nil
    1975Nil
    197631. TheftBarlinnieSelf-strangulation6 months4 days
    2. MurderPeterheadSelf-strangulationLife6 months
    3. Assault and robberyPerthSelf-strangulation2 years7 months
    197741. AssaultPerthSelf-asphyxiation2 years16 months
    2. ManslaughterBarlinnie SpecialUnitDrug overdoseLife13 years
    3. Attempted theftBarlinnieInhalation of carbon tetrachloride12 months4 months
    4. TheftLow MossSelf-strangulation3 months2 months
    197821. Breach of peace, wilful and malicious mischief, fireraisingBarlinnieJumping from an upper gallery15 months2 months
    2. Contravention of Road Traffic Act 1972, attempting to pervert the course of justice, theftBarlinnieSelf-strangulation4 years7 months
    1979Nil

    Youth Employment

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what are the employment prospects for young people leaving school in Lanarkshire this coming summer.

    Although the process may take a little longer than in past years, most of the young people leaving school in Lanarkshire this summer can expect to find a job or a place in training or full-time further education over the next few months. For those unable to do so, the Manpower Services Commission has renewed its undertaking to find a place on the youth opportunities programme.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will bring forward plans for improving the training programme and facilities for the young unemployed and their future prospects.

    The Government have already agreed to expand the Youth Opportunities Programme by about 25 per cent. in the current financial year to provide places for up to 260,000 unemployed young people, 37,000 of them in Scotland. The Government are now discussing with the Manpower Services Commission what more can be done to help the young unemployed.

    Mentally Retarded Children

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) what is the estimated annual cost of the provisions made for mentally retarded children in Scotland;(2) what is the latest estimate of the numbers of children classified as (

    a) mentally retarded, and ( b) educationally subnormal, indicating the numbers in both categories.

    These classifications are not used in Scotland. In September 1978, the most recent date for which figures are available, there were 9,930 pupils in special schools and classes for the mentally handicapped. Information about the cost of educating these pupils is not available centrally and could not be obtained without disproportionate cost.

    Unemployment (Dundee)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will provide a breakdown of those currently unemployed in Dundee by standard industrial classification; and how this compares with a year ago.

    The following table gives the information requested at May 1980—the latest date for which an analysis by industry of the unemployment register is available—and at May 1979.

    NUMBERS REGISTERED AS UNEMPLOYED IN DUNDEE
    Industry GroupMay 1980May 1979
    Agriculture, Forestry, Fishing182142
    Mining and Quarrying6064
    Food, Drink and Tobacco338358
    Coal and Petroleum Products513
    Chemicals and Allied Products2228
    Metal Manufacture5860
    Mechanical Engineering135146
    Instrument Engineering465366
    Electrical Engineering194178
    Shipbuilding and Marine
    Engineering24281
    Vehicles1415
    Metal Goods not elsewhere specified5948
    Textiles1,0761,085
    Leather, Leather Goods etc.74
    Clothing and Footwear15786
    Bricks, Pottery etc.1510
    Timber, Furniture6857
    Paper, Printing etc.183127
    Other Manufacturing Industries10393
    Construction892690
    Gas, Electricity and Water1621
    Transport and Communication332310
    Distributive Trades989830
    Insurance, Banking etc.141109
    Professional and Scientific Services515416
    Miscellaneous Services992779
    Public Administration533619
    Not classified by industry1,5761,374
    Total9,3698,109

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when next he will meet Dundee district council to discuss the level of unemployment in Dundee.

    I met representatives of Dundee district council on my right hon. Friend's behalf on 4 July to discuss the level of unemployment in Dundee. Although my right hon. Friend has at present no plans for a further meeting, he is therefore fully aware of the district council's concern about this matter.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, in view of the unemployment rate for Dundee now standing at 11–9 per cent., if he will introduce a public investment package to relieve unemployment in the city.

    Substantial assistance is already being offered to Dundee. The special problems of the city were recognised by the Government when, following last year's review of regional policy, Dundee was retained in the highest category of assisted area status. In addition, the Scottish Development Agency is planning to spend around £4–5 million in Dundee on an integrated development project involving small business development, land renewal, factory building and industrial production.

    Ministerial Meetings

    Ross asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many times he and other Scottish Office Ministers have met representatives of the following organisations in the past year to discuss unemployment: (a) Scottish Trades Union Congress, (b) Glasgow district council, (c) Dundee district council and (d) Strathclyde regional council.

    My right hon. Friend has met representatives of the STUC on two occasions in the past year specifically to discuss unemployment and has indicated that he is prepared to meet them at any time they wish. I have met representatives of Dundee district council to discuss unemployment on three occasions and Strathclyde regional council on one occasion. My right hon. Friend and I have many informal contacts with representatives of local authorities, in the course of which matters related to employment and unemployment are discussed.

    Doctors And Dentists

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many (a) doctors and (b) dentists are registered as unemployed in Scotland; and what percentage of each professional group these figures represent.

    Information cannot be provided in the precise form requested. On 12 June 28 doctors and 5 dentists were registered as unemployed in Scotland. In September 1979, the latest date for which information is available, 9,080 doctors and 1,815 dentists were working in the National Health Service in Scotland. Information is not available on the numbers working outwith the National Health Service.

    School Leavers ("O" Grades)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what is the percentage of school leavers at the latest available date who left school with (a) no Scottish certificate of education "O" grades whatsoever and (b), "O" grades at bands D and E only; and if he will provide a breakdown per region.

    The percentage of all school leavers who left school in session 1978–79 holding no SCE qualifications or only "O" grades at bands D-E are shown in the table below for each region.

    RegionSchool leavers with no SCE qualificationsSchool leavers with ' O ' grades (D-E) only
    Borders32–58–9
    Central31–69–2
    Dumfries and Galloway28–710–7
    Fife30–38–3
    Grampian27–210–3
    Highland25–38–9
    Lothian31–29–2
    Strathclyde35–89–7
    Tayside27–98–7
    Orkney27–67–7
    Shetland19–38–2
    Western Isles24–48–5
    ALL SCOTLAND32–59–5

    Teachers

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland when he proposes to merge the two committees dealing with the salaries and conditions of service of Scottish teachers.

    I refer the hon. Member to the answer given to my hon. Friend the Member for Fife, East (Mr. Henderson) on 16 July—[Vol. 988, c. 581].

    Dundee ("West End Smell")

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what representations the Scottish Home and Health Department has received over the problem known as the West End smell in Dundee; and if he will set up a Scottish Home and Health Department investigation into it should the latest attempt to overcome the problem fail.

    No representations have been received by the Scottish Office on this matter.It is for Dundee district council to deal with local environmental problems.

    Mr James Campbell Hogg

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will call for a report from the chief constable at Dumfries and Galloway concerning the collection of information about Mr. James Campbell Hogg, and its communication to third parties.

    Police (Cs Gas)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether it is Government policy that each individual police force should be equipped with CS gas, if he will list those forces which either are or plan to be equipped with such gas; how many officers are trained in the Use of such gas, and how such training is carried out; and what operational advice is given by his Department on the circumstances in which CS gas may be used by police.

    CS smoke equipment has been held by all police forces since the mid-1960s. Its use is governed by a statement by the then Home Secretary on 20 May 1965- [Vol. 712, c. 1651.]—that CS smoke was

    "for use in dealing with armed criminals or violently insane persons in buildings from which they cannot be dislodged without danger of loss or life."
    Appropriate operational advice has been given on the use of CS in such situa-

    tions.

    CS smoke will not be used in any other circumstances.

    The number of officers trained and the way in which they are trained are operational matters for individual chief constables, but the rule is that the equipment is used only by officers who have received specialist training.

    Police (Firearms)

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether it is Government policy that each individual police force should establish specialist firearms units to deal with major operational incidents in which firearms may be used; and if he will list those forces which either have or plan to have such units.

    This is an operational matter which is entirely for chief constables. The trend is, however, to set up small specialist units comprising officers who have received additional training in the use of specialist weapons and tactics.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland, on a police force area basis, on how many occasions in 1979 firearms were issued to police officers (a) to deal with crime, (b) for protection of persons and (c) for protection of property; on how many occasions weapons were drawn from holsters; on how many occasions shots were fired and, in these cases, what the circumstances were.

    Firearms were issued to police officers for all purposes on 699 occasions. This figure cannot be analysed in the manner requested, because it would be contrary to the interests of security to provide detailed information about the issue of firearms for protection purposes.Figures are not available centrally on the number of occasions on which weapons were drawn from their holsters. Shots were fired on two occasions, both to deal with injured animals—a whale and a heifer.