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Written Answers

Volume 995: debated on Monday 24 November 1980

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Written Answers To Questions

Tuesday 2 December 1980

Overseas Development

Disaster And Emergency Relief

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he is satisfied with his Department's role in existing disaster relief agencies, in particular the United Nations Disaster Relief Organisation, the European Economic Community emergency relief officer, the United Kingdom Disasters Emergency Committee and the disaster unit in his Department so far as the speed of reaction to disasters overseas is concerned.

I am confident that the disaster unit of the Overseas Development Administration, which cooperates closely with the United Kingdom disasters emergency committee, reacts very speedily to disasters overseas, as soon as the needs are known. We exchange information with the office of the United Nations disaster relief coordinator and with the European Community on action taken by donors in response to disasters. We shall participate in the debate on the recent evaluation of UNDRO, when the relevant document is circulated in the United Nations.

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he is satisfied that Her Majesty's Government have taken sufficient steps to ensure that bureaucratic and political restrictions are overcome in cases of extreme emergency, such as the recent problems in North-East Uganda, in I he organisation of relief aid and the administration of food aid supply where the United Kingdom is involved.

Trade

Manufactures

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will publish in the Official Report figures bringing up to date the information supplied in his reply to the hon. Member for Grimsby on 19 December 1979 concerning trade in manufactures with the United States of America.

The figures given below update the earlier information and include some revisions for 1978.

I. United Kingdom Trade with the United States of America in Manufactures

*

Indices of value

1970=100

Imports (cif)

Exports (fob)

Crude (£ thousand) Balance (exports valued fob minus imports cif)

1978351380-194,116
1979417411-535,080
1980 January-October471378-1,250,126

II. Sterling Exchange Rate against the United States Dollar expressed
as percentage of 1963 Rate†

Percentage

197975·7
1980 January-October82·9

III. Export volume index (fob) for United Kingdom Trade in
Manufactures with all Countries as a percentage of the Import volume
index (cif

1963=100

197854
197948
1980 January-October48
Sources:

*United Kingdom Overseas Trade Statistics (SITC [R2] Divisions 5 to 8).

† Monthly Review of External Trade Statistics.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the terms of trade and relative volume of United Kingdom trade in manufactures by broad economic category for each year since 1969.

Information for manufactures and for years prior to 1970 is not available. Information as is available in respect of finished manufactures is as follows:

United Kingdom Trade in Finished Manufactures Excluding

Erratics* by Broad Economic Category
1975=100 OTS basis
Terms of Trade †Relative volume‡
ConsumerIntermediateCapitalConsumerIntermediateCapital
19701149893197109120
197111410593155111130
1972111104981099896
19731029397898986
19749898981038881
1975100100100100100100
19769595981049395
197710197103968590
1978100101105907872
1979103112108666760
* SITC (R2) Sections 7 and 8, excluding ships, North Sea installations and aircraft.
† Export unit value index as a percentage of import unit value index.
‡ Export volume index as a percentage of import volume index

Indonesian Textile Imports

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether any progress has been made since 3 October in the EEC Commission's attempt to negotiate agreed quotas for Indonesian textile imports to the United Kingdom under the multi-fibre arrangement.

No meetings have been held between the Commission of the European Communities and the Indonesian Government since the discussions on 3 October. However, the next round of consultations is expected to take place in Brussels this week.

Exports

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will publish an estimate in the Official Report of (a) the increase in exports in the past 12 months as a result of the assistance provided by the Government to exports and (b) the loss of exports as a result of the increase in the real exchange rate over the same period.

Given the many influences and uncertainties involved, it is not possible to make reliable estimates of changes in exports resulting either from the many and varied Government measures which assist our exports or from increases in the real exchange rate.

Manufactured Goods

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will publish the figures for the latest available 12-month period for the trade, both export and import, in manufactured goods, excluding oil, between the United Kingdom and France.

In the period November 1979 to October 1980 United Kingdom exports of manufactured goods—which exclude oil—to France were valued at £2,620 million (fob) and corresponding imports from France at £3,132 million (cif).

Car Radios (Imports)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many car radios incorporating a tape player were imported into the United Kingdom in each month of 1980; and, as a whole, what is the percentage increase on those imported in 1979.

The monthly information for 1980 is given in the table below. The total for the first 10 months of 1980 represents a decrease of 24 per cent, compared with the corresponding period of 1979.

United Kingdom Imports of Radio Broadcast Receivers* for Motor

Vehicles
Numbers
January60,608
February87,047
March67,274
April72,151
May49,836
June70,403
July60,375
August47,566
September70,554
October78,065
Total Jan.-Oct. 1980663,879
* Radio broadcast receivers incorporating sound recorders or reproducers, designed or adapted for fitting to motor vehicles.

Source: Overseas Trade Statistics of the United Kingdom, SITC (R2) Sub-group 762.1 [part].

Aviation Security Levy

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he has yet reached a decision on the rate of the aviation security levy for 1981–82 and on the proposals for a two-part levy and for a reduction in the exemption limit.

I have decided to leave the levy at its present rate of £1·60 for the time being. The rate will be reviewed in May 1981, and if necessary it will be increased on 1 November 1981 by an amount sufficient to ensure that costs for the financial year 1981–82 are recovered during that year. I have decided to reject the proposals for a two-part levy and for a reduction in the exemption limit: a two-part levy extending the levy to all-cargo aircraft from the anti-terrorist measures financed from the aviation security fund; and I am satisfied that the additional burdens imposed by both proposals would have been out of proportion to the additional revenue they could reasonably have been expected to generate.

Glue Sniffing

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will make a statement on the extent to which glue sniffing has become a problem, particularly amongst the young; and if he will introduce legislation to make the selling of glue to young persons unlawful.

So far as is known, the practice of glue sniffing is not confined to any particular age group, although it mainly affects adolescents. Among young people the pattern seems to be one of limited and scattered outbreaks rather than a continuing or widespread habit. My right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services is considering how to improve the information available on the incidence of sniffing.There are many products which can be and are misused for sniffing but are quite safe when used for their intended purpose. On that ground, I do not consider that it would be justifiable to restrict the sale of glue alone to young persons and it would be impracticable to expect to be able to control the sale of all the products that might be misused by sniffers.

Maritime Safety Conference

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what was the outcome of the European conference on maritime safety held in Paris on 1 and 2 December.

The European conference on maritime safety convened on the initiative of the French Government, was attended by 13 countries, the Intergovernmental Maritime Consultative Organisation (IMCO), the International Labour Office (ILO), and by the European Commission.I will place a copy of the English text of the final declaration of the conference in the library of the House as soon as possible.The conference had two main themes: the speedier ratification of maritime safety and pollution prevention conventions, in order to bring them into force as early as possible; and measures to improve port State enforcement of safety standards on visiting foreign ships.Countries taking part in the conference undertook to initiate before 1 July 1981 legal procedures leading to the ratification, acceptance or adoption of the conventions in question, if that had not already been done, and to have them finalised, subject to the constraints of national Parliaments, by the end of 1981. I was able to announce that the United Kingdom had just ratified ILO Convention No. 147 concerning minimum standards on merchant ships and that, as a result, that convention will come into force 12 months hence.I was also able to announce that the United Kingdom had just ratified the International Convention on Standards of Training, Certification and Watchkeeping for Seafarers 1978, and thereby became the first country to have ratified every IMCO maritime safety and pollution prevention convention.There was a consensus that it was necessary to increase the effectiveness of port State enforcement. A working group was established, charged to present its conclusions by 1 July 1981.I fully supported this consensus, and announced that we planned, within existing resources, to inspect in 1981 at least twice as many foreign ships visiting our ports as we have inspected this year.

National Finance

Wages And Import Prices

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will bring up to date the information published in the Official Report on 5 December 1979 in response to a written question from the hon. Member for Grimsby concerning wages and import prices.

The percentage increase in import prices, basic hourly wage rates in manufacturing industry and earnings in manufacturing to September 1980 from average 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, and 1979 values were as follows:

Food import pricesFuel import pricesBasic materials import pricesHourly wage ratesEarnings
19747418962161161
19755115257101107
19762392276878
1977147086062
1978882183541
197954481822

Imports And Exports

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will bring up to date the information published in the Official Report on 13 February in response to a written question from the hon. Member for Grimsby concerning the forecasts and outturns of import and export forecasts.

The information requested is set out in the table below.

Forecasts and Outturns for Exports and Imports at Constant Prices
Base year per cent. changes on a year earlier
197919801981
imports of goods and services at 1975 pricesH2H1H2H1H2
Forecast publication

Base year per cent. changes on a year
earlier

EPR November 1978
FSBR June 197941
EPR December 197911-2-3
FSBR March 19805
November 1980-8½-5½

Recorded Outturns

at 1975 constant prices12½3

Exports of goods and services at 1975 prices

Forecast publication

EPR November 1978
FSBR June 1979½
EPR December 19793-3½
FSBR March 1980-2½-1½
November 1980-3½-4-2

Recorded Outturns

at 1975 constant prices45

Income Tax

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will publish in the Official Report the evidence he has showing that the reductions in the higher rate of tax in June 1979 have increased the wealth of the United Kingdom; and what effect on output he expects these reductions to have in 1981 and 1982.

No. While the effects have undoubtedly been beneficial, it is not possible to quantify them accurately.

Unemployment Costs

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the estimated annual cost in 1980–81 at 1980 prices of 2·3 million unemployed in terms of (a) welfare benefits, including allowances and rebates of all kinds, (b) the loss of revenue from income tax and national insurance contributions, (c) the loss of production and (d) the loss of value added tax and other indirect taxes.

I refer my hon. Friend to p. 114 of Cmnd. 7841, which states that a variation of 100,000 in unemployed—excluding school leavers, and so on—is estimated to vary benefit costs in 1980–81 by £110 million at 1979 survey prices, which is about £130 million at,, 1980–81 estimated outturn prices. Thus a level of unemployment of 2·3 million or 2·0 million excluding school leavers, would imply expenditure of benefit payments of £2·6 billion at 1980–81 prices. This estimate includes only national insurances and supplementary benefit payments, other than to school leavers. The recently published estimate of national insurance unemployment benefits alone is £1·1 billion in 1980–81, based on an assumption of 1·7 million unemployed, excluding school leavers. Information on other benefits could be provided only at the cost of disproportionate time and effort.The loss of revenue from income tax and national insurance contributions, the loss of production, and the loss of value added tax and other indirect taxes which is associated with an increase in unemployment depend on the reasons for the change in unemployment and the subsequent development of the economy. In principle it is possible to assert a number of ways in which all the 2·3 million might be employed, but they would all be hypothetical and unrealistic. I regret therefore that I cannot answer parts (b)-(d) of my hon. Friend's question.

European Community Budget (United Kingdom Contribution)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if it would be possible, on the basis of Great Britain's EEC obligations, to deduct the rebates agreed for 1980 and 1981 from the contributions which he makes to the EEC; and if he will make a statement;(2) why, in view of the fact that about two-thirds of the rebate is payable only after individual projects have been approved for grant by EEC committees, he included the rebate from the EEC in his recent statement on public expenditure reductions for the current financial year;(3) if the agreement with the EEC on the payment of rebates to the United Kingdom provided for the sums to be paid by the dates specified in the agreement whether or not there is agreement on a common fisheries policy; and if he will make a statement.

Oil Products (Excise Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what he expects will be the yield, during the current financial year, of the excise duty paid by industrial consumers on oil products.

Fuel Oil (Excise Duty)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will reduce the excise duty on fuel oil to bring it into line with the levels applying elsewhere within the European Economic Community;(2) what steps he is taking within the European Economic Community to eliminate or reduce the unfair competition arising from the level of excise duty on oil products applying elsewhere in the Community being less than half than that in the United Kingdom;(3) what estimate he has made of the price disadvantage suffered by United Kingdom industry compared with industries elsewhere in the European Economic Community as a result of the extra excise duty on oil products borne in the United Kingdom.

European Community (Energy Pricing)

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if, since the meeting of the Energy Council of the European Economic Community on 13 May 1980, at which all member States endorsed the need for economic energy pricing, there has been any adjustment of excise tax by any member country to reduce the excessive differential suffered by United Kingdom manufacturers.

Husband And Wife Taxation

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will make a statement on his review of the taxation of husband and wife.

The treatment for income tax purposes of husband and wife is an important and complex subject, and there can be no quick or easy answers. For that reason, as foreshadowed in my Budget Statement, I am issuing a Green Paper on this subject, inviting all those interested to give their views on the far-reaching issues it raises. I hope that the Green Paper will be carefully studied and widely discussed, and I shall welcome the fullest possible response from individuals as well as representative bodies.I shall be presenting this Green Paper to the House tomorrow. It is being published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office and copies will be available from Government Bookshops.

Government Expenditure

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what percentage of total Government expenditure has been devoted to defence, education, health and social security, respectively, at five-year intervals from 1950–51 to date, including the planned outturn for 1980–81.

[pursuant to his reply, 27 November 1980]: The table below gives expenditure on the service specified as a percentage of total expenditure by central Government and local authorities. Data for earlier years, from published national income and expenditure accounts, is available only on a calendar year basis. For 1975–76 and 1980–81 the percentages are derived from the estimates published in "The Government's Expenditure Plans 1980–81 to 1983–84"—Cmnd. 7841. Due to changes in coverage and definition, the percentages shown for 1965 and earlier may not be entirely consistent with those for the later years.

DefenceEducation*National Health ServiceSocial Security
195021·98·711·716·9
195527·49·410·217·8
196020·911·310·919·2
196517·913·510·620·4
197013·313·610·721·1
1975–7611·213·410·522·1
1980–8111·612·811·428·0
* Excludes expenditure on arts and libraries.

Depreciation Allowances

asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the estimated cost in tax revenue lost in a full financial year of increasing the initial first-year accelerated depreciation allowances on all new commercial and industrial buildings to the 100 per cent, level which already applies to investment in plant and machinery, both at 1980–81 outturn prices and at estimated 1981–82 outturn prices.

[pursuant to his reply, 1 December 1980]: I regret that figures are not available in the precise form requested, but if the total value at current prices of expenditure on new industrial and commercial buildings remained constant at its 1980 level the cost in a full year is estimated to be of the order of £1½ billion, on the assumption that in the hypothetical "full year" sufficient profits arc available to absorb the allowances in full.

Home Department

Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish a table showing, for the prison population detained under Immigration Act powers by prison department establishment and country of origin, on 15 August, 12 September, 10 October, 7 November or the nearest convenient dates, those who were (a) alleged illegal entrants, (b) recommended for deportation by the courts without custodial sentence, (c) recommended for deportation and custodial sentence and (d) discharged (i) under section 3(5)(a) of the Immigration Act 1971 and (ii) under section 3(5)(b) of the Immigration Act 1971.

I regret that the information can be provided only for a current date. On 27 November the number of persons detained in prison department establishments under the powers in the Immigration Act 1971 was as follows:

TABLE 1
ENGLAND AND WALES
Prison department establishment:(a)(b)(c)(d)(i)(d)(ii)
Ashford31199204
Bedford41
Birmingham31
Blundeston1
Bristol1
Brixton3
Canterbury1
Cardiff1
Dorchester1
Durham1
Exeter2
Holloway21
leeds1
Lincoln1
New Hall1
Nottingham1
Pentonville1132
Reading2
Risley11
Shrewsbury1
Winchester111
Wormwood Scrubs1
Police cells*462
462931284
SCOTLAND
Prison:(a)(b)(c)(d)(i)(d)(ii)
Barlinnie11
Edinburgh1
12
* These would be detained in prison but for the current industrial dispute

TABLE 2

ENGLAND AND WALES

Country of origin

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)(i)

(d)(ii)

Algeria411
Australia1
Bangladesh21
Belgium1
Chile1
Columbia35
Cyprus32
Egypt3
Federal Republic of Germany1
Finland1
France1
Ghana4429
Greece1
Grenada1
Guyana1
Hong Kong1
India8114
Iran251
Irish Republic12
Jamaica1
Jordan21
Libya1
Malawi1
Malayasia1
Malta1
Mauritius1
Mexico1
Morocco111
New Zealand1
Nigeria4326
Pakistan7121
Poland1
Portugal1
Sierra Leone11
South Africa1
Sudan1
Syria1
Thailand11
Trinidad1
Turkey221
United States of America111
Yugoslavia1
462931284

SCOTLAND

Country of origin

(a)

(b)

(c)

(d)(i)

(d)(ii)

India11
New Zealand1
12

Deportation

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will publish a table indicating, for the latest convenient date, the time spent in prison department establishments by persons recommended for deportation by the courts without custodial sentence, showing the numbers detained for more than one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine and 10 weeks, respectively.

ENGLAND AND WALES

Prison department establishments

Police cells

*

Detained for more than 1 week and not more than 2 weeks41
Detained for more than 2 weeks and not mor than 3 weeks3
Detained for more than 3 weeks and not more than 4 weeks21
Detained for more than 4 weeks and not more than 5 weeks11
Detained for more than 5 weeks and not more than 6 weeks41
Detained for more than 6 weeks and not more than 7 weeks1
Detained for more than 7 weeks and not more than 8 weeks4
Detained for more than 8 weeks and not more than 9 weeks
Detained for more than 9 weeks and not more than 10 weeks
Detained for more than 10 weeks5
244

SCOTLAND

Prison department establishments

Police cells

*

Detained for more than 5 weeks and not more than 6 weeks1
1

* These would be detained in prison but for the current industrial dispute.

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the number of persons against whom deportation orders have been made under section 3(5)(b) of the Immigration Act 1971 during each of the last five years and to the latst convenient date 1980.

The information is as follows:

197544
197636
197758
197857
1979102
1980 (to 31 October)76

Remand Costs

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the average weekly cost to public funds of detaining a person on remand in a prison department establishment.

As I said in my reply to the hon. Member's question on 23 July 1980, the cost of keeping a person on remand is not separately recorded.

Prisoners (Interviews)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether there are any circumstances in which journalists are allowed to interview prisoners in Her Majesty's prisons.

Prisoners (Visits By Relatives)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what has been the total cost to public funds in the last financial year of arranging visits to prisons for the wives and families of convicted prisoners who are on social security benefit.

West Yorkshire Police (Secondments)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what financial arrangements are being made to cover the loan or secondment to the West Yorkshire police of senior officers from other forces.

Special Patrol Group

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the current strength in number of the police special patrol group; and if he has any plans to increase its size.

The current strength of the Metropolitan Police special patrol group is 241; the Commissioner has its eventual complement under review in the light of my statement of 10 March.—[Vol. 980, c. 395–96.]

Illegal Immigrants

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were arrested as being illegal immigrants in each month since February; of each monthly figure how many were discovered as they went through Customs at one of the United Kingdom airports and ports; and what number were arrested, having been resident in the United Kingdom for more than one day.

The number of illegal entrants detected is published quarterly in the Home Office statistical bulletin—Control of Immigration Statistics, copies of which are placed in the Library of the House. The figures for the first two quarters of this year were 486 and 414 respectively. The information requested in the second and third parts of the question is not available, but people attempting to enter illegally by means of falsified or forged travel documents or by deception and who are detected at the immigration control are refused entry and are not treated as illegal entrants.

Equal Opportunities Commission

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people were employed by the Equal Opportunities Commission on 1 November.

I understand that on 1 November, 177 staff were employed by the Equal Opportunities Commission, of whom 21 were employed on a part-time basis.

Squatting

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many representations he has received, since January 1980, asking him to introduce legislation to make the occupation of private property whilst the owners are away and the refusal to leave illegal.

We have received one letter from a member of the public suggesting that squatting should be illegal, It is already a criminal offence under section 7 of the Criminal Law Act 1977 for a person who has entered premises as a trespasser to fail to leave when asked to do so by a displaced residential occupier or by a person with a right to occupy the premises who had not taken up residence at the time of the trespass.

Metal Detecting Devices

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many people applied for licences to operate metal detecting devices in each month of 1980 up to the latest month for which figures are available.

The figures recorded relate only to the number of licences issued. For the period in question, these were:

January4,467
February4,188
March2,907
April2,852
May2,426
June2,861
July2,178
August1,180
September1,108
October1,031
We intend that wireless telegraphy licences will no longer be required for these devices from January 1981.

Prime Minister (Engagements)

Q6.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 2 December,

Q7.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q8.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q9.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q10.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q11.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list hex official engagements for 2 December.

Q12.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q13.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q15.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q16.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q17.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q18.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q20.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q21.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q23.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q25.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q27.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q30.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q31.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q32.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q33.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q34.

asked the Prime Minister if she will state her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q35.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q37.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q38.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q39.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q40.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q41.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q42.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q43.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q44.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q45.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q46.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q47.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q48.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q49.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q51.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q52.

asked the Prime Minister if she will state her official engagements for 2 December.

Q53.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q54.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q55.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for Tuesday 2 December.

Q56.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

Q58.

asked the Prime Minister if she will list her official engagements for 2 December.

I have been asked to reply.I refer my hon. Friends and the hon. Members to the reply which I gave earlier today to my hon. Friend the Member for Woolwich, West (Mr. Bottomley).

Scotland

Q14.

asked the Prime Minister when she intends to pay an official visit to Scotland.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has no immediate plans to do so.

Gulf War

Q19.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will make a statement on the action being taken by the Western allies, through the United Nations, to bring about a ceasefire in the Gulf war.

I have been asked to reply.We all want to see an early end to this conflict. We and our Western allies are working at the United Nations and elsewhere to this end. We supported Security Council resolution 479 and agreed to the Secretary-General's appointment of Mr. Olaf Palme as special emissary to the region. We hope that his mission will advance the prospects for a political settlement of the dispute.

Animal Welfare

Q22.

asked the Prime Minister if she will consider the appointment of a Minister with specific responsibility for the welfare of animals.

I have been asked to reply.I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which my right hon. Friend Prime Minister gave to the hon. Member for Caernarvon (Mr. Wigley) on 25 November.

Longside, East Aberdeenshire

Q24.

asked the Prime Minister if she has any plans to visit Longside in the constituency of East Aberdeenshire.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has at present no plans to do so.

Local Authority Manpower

Q26.

asked the Prime Minister if she is satisfied with the progress of the large local authorities in cutting manpower.

Tuc And Cbi

Q28.

Q50.

asked the Prime Minister when last she met representatives of the Confederation of British Industry.

Hamilton Teachers Training College

Q29.

asked the Prime Minister whether she will visit Hamilton teachers Training college.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend has no plans to do so.

Wales

Q36.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend hopes to visit Wales later this month.

President-Elect Reagan

Q57.

asked the Prime Minister whether she has any plans to meet President-elect Reagan.

I have been asked to reply.My right hon. Friend hopes there will be an early opportunity to renew her acquaintance with President-elect Reagan.

Energy

Redundant Opencast Coal Operatives

asked the Secretary of State for Energy in how many member States of the European Coal and Steel Community redundant opencast coal operatives are qualified to benefit from re-adaptation payment schemes.

Mineworkers (Redundancy Payments)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy how many persons employed in deep mines, other than employees of the National Coal Board, have received payments under the Redundant Mineworkers and Concessionary Coal (Payments Scheme) Orders 1973 and 1978, and amending orders.

asked the Secretary of State for Energy bow many employees of the National Coal Board not employed, in deep mines have received payments under the Redundant Mineworkers and Concessionary Coal (Payments Scheme) Orders 1973 and 1978, and amending orders.

2,013. These are former employees at prescribed facilities associated with deep nines.

Oil Products (Excise Duty)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list the organisations and individuals who have made representations to him about the level of excise duty on oil products in the United Kingdom compared with the lower levels within the European Economic Community.

I have received many representations on this subject from trade associations, chambers of commerce, companies and individuals. Among major organisations which have suggested a reduction in the level of duty are the CBI, the Chemical Industries Association, the British Independent Steel Producers Association, the British Paper and Board Industry Federation and the British Textile Employers Federation. A full list of organisations and individuals could only be supplied at disproportionate cost.

Employment

Unemployment Statistics

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how much unemployment has risen since May 1979 in the Irlam employment office area of the Newton parliamentary constituency.

Between May 1979 and November 1980, the provisional increase in the numbers registered as unemployed in the Irlam employment office area was 213. The figures on which the increase is based include school leavers, numerically greater in November than in May. Moreover, they are not adjusted for seasonal influences, which normally lead to unemployment being higher in November than in May.Additionally, the figures are not strictly comparable because of the introduction, in September 1979, of fortnightly attendance and payment of benefit. Estimates of this effect are not available for local areas, but for the country as a whole the monthly unemployment figures from October 1979 are about 20,000 or 1½ per cent, higher than under weekly attendance.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how much unemployment has risen since May 1979 in the Warrington travel-to-work area and the Newton le Willows employment office area.

Between May 1979 and 1980, the provisional increases in the numbers registered as unemployed in the Warrington travel-to-work area and in the Newton le Willows employment office area were 3,780 and 468, respectively. The figures on which the increase is based include school leavers, numerically greater in November than in May. Moreover, they are not adjusted for seasonal influences, which normally lead to unemployment being higher in November than in May.Additionally, the figures are not strictly comparable because of the introduction, in September 1979, of fortnightly attendance and payment of benefit. Estimates of this effect are not available for local areas but for the country as a whole the monthly unemployment figures from October 1979 are about 20,000 or 1½ per cent, higher than under weekly attendance.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how much unemployment has risen since May 1979 in the Leigh travel-to-work area.

Between May 1979 and November 1980, the provisional increase in the numbers registered as unemployed in the Leigh travel-to-work area was 2,352. The figures on which the increase is based include school leavers, numerically greater in November than in May. Moreover, they are not adjusted for seasonal influences, which normally lead to unemployment being higher in November than in May.Additionally, the figures are not strictly comparable because of the introduction, in September 1979, of fortnightly attendance and payment of benefit. Estimates of this effect are not available for local areas but for the country as a whole the monthly unemployment figures from October 1979 are about 20,000 or 1½ percent, higher than under weekly attendance.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment by how much unemployment has risen since May 1979 in the St. Helens travel-to-work area.

Between May 1979 and November 1980 the provisional increase in the numbers registered as unemployed in the St. Helens employment office area was 3,342. The figures on which the increase is based include school leavers, numerically greater in November than in May. Moreover, they are not adjusted for seasonal influences, which normally lead to unemployment being higher in November than in May.Additionally, the figures are not strictly comparable because of the introduction, in September 1979, of fortnightly attendance and payment of benefit. Estimates of this effect are not available for local areas, but for the country as a whole the monthly unemployment figures from October 1979 are about 20,000 or 1½ per cent, higher than under weekly attendance.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment (a) if he will publish in the Official Report in league order the combined total of persons unemployed and undergoing National Service in each of the EEC countries, the United States of America, Sweden and Japan; and what percentage of the work force the figures represents; (b) what is the total number of unemployed in each of the EEC countries, the United States of America, Sweden and Japan; and if he will show in league order these figures as a percentage of the total work force in each respective country.

Total unemployment figures and rates for these countries are given below for October 1980 in the order requested. However, this ranking cannot be taken as precise as the figures are not directly comparable owing to differences in the concept of unemployment, coverage and methods of compilation.

Number (thousand)Percentage rate
Belgium*42610·5
Ireland*1119·8
Italy*18158·3
United Kingdom*20637·9
United States†74827·1
France15857·1
Denmark*1847·1
Netherlands*2785·4
West Germany*8883·4
Sweden†922·1
Japan (September)†10901·9
Luxembourg10·8
Source: SOEC Statistical Telegram for EC countries.
OECD main economic indicators for remainder supplemented by labour attache reports.
(*) Registered unemployed. The rates are calculated as percentages of the civilian working population.
(†) Estimates from labour force sample survey. The rates are calculated as percentages of total labour force.
The latest available rates on a comparable basis and seasonally adjusted are given below for September 1980:

per cent.
Great Britain8·0
United States7·5
France (August)6·8
Germany3·5
Sweden2·0
Japan2·0

Source: United States Bureau of Labor Statistics. Unemployment on US definitions as a percentage of civilian labour force.

No figures are available for the numbers undergoing "National Service".

Manpower Services Commission And Jobcentres

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will give details of the total costs involved in the establishment and running of (a) the Manpower Services Commission and (b) jobcentres, since the introduction of these bodies.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that between 1 April 1975 and 30 September 1980, 672 jobcentres were opened and the capital cost involved in their establishment was £28 million.Information about running costs of jobcentres in the earlier years is not available. Information for later years could only be made available by using a considerable amount of expensive computer and staff time. Total expenditure by the MSC from its establishment to 30.9.80 was £2,533 million.

Wages Councils

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what proposals for new awards have been made or have become effective for the following wages councils since 1 October: licensed non-residential establishments, licensed residential establishments, retail food and allied trades, retail trades non-food, unlicensed places of refreshment and hairdressing undertakings.

The Retail Trades (Non-Food) and the Unlicensed Place of Refreshment Wages Councils have not made proposals for new statutory minimum rates since 1 October 1980 and no proposals made before that date have become effective since 1 October.The position as regards the other councils including details of increases proposed, or effective, for a typical grade of adult worker is

Licensed Residential Establishment and Licensed Restaurant Wages Council

New minimum rates effective from 6 October 1980. The rate for service worker e.g. waiter/waitress is £48·80 and the rate for a non-service worker e.g. kitchen porter is £57·60.

Licensed Non-residential Establishment Wages Council

Proposals issued 24 October 1980. Statutory minimum rate to be increased from 1 January 1981 to £57 per week for a barman/ barmaid and to £62·70 per week for a category 2 steward.

Hairdressing Undertaking Wages Council (Great Britain)

Proposals issued 14 November 1980. The statutory minimum rate for an operative hairdresser to be increased to £51 per week.

Retail Food and Allied Trade Wages Council

This council announced on 12 November 1980 that it had decided to issue proposals to increase the statutory minimum rate for sales assistants in large towns outside London to £54 per week from 1 December 1980 and to £57 from 6 April 1981.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will list the average minimum rates of pay for typical workers aged 17 years in the main provincial areas outside London for each of the last 10 years awarded by the following wages councils and their predecessors: licensed non-residential establishments, licensed residential establishments, retail food and allied trades, retail trades non-food, unlicensed places of refreshment and hairdressing undertakings; and if he will detail the number of hours for which the minimum weekly rates apply.

Statutory minimum rates for workers aged 17 years determined by these wages councils for the main provincial areas outside London are given in the following table. The rates shown are for 17-year-old workers if employed in the grades typical of all workers within scope of the council. Those grades, however, are not necessarily the "typical" grades in which 17-year-olds are employed.

LICENSED NON-RESIDENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT WAGES COUNCIL

Rates applicable to people aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Other workers

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

22 August 19717·308·3044
13 August 19727·308·3042
20 January 19748·359·8540
5 November 19748·35+ 3·20 cost of living supplement9·85+ 3·20 cost of living supplement40
22 December 197413·5015·8040
22 December 197520·6040
22 December 197622·6040
22 December 197725·7040
25 January 197932·6040
25 January 198044·0040

LICENSED RESIDENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT AND LICENSED RESTAURANT WAGES COUNCIL

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Kitchen handlporter

Weekly hours

Waiter*

Waitress*

Male

Female

£

£

£

£

£

£

26 June 19727·316·469·508·2042
1 December 19727·316·469·508·2041
4 February 19748·317·6410·779·6640
7 October 19749·81+40 pence cost of living supplement9·29+40 pence12·27+40 pence11·38+40 pence40
20 October 197514·8018·7840
6 October 197616·6220·6040
6 October 197719·6123·5240
6 October 197823·2028·0040
6 October 197929·6035·2040
6 October 198039·2046·0040

* This licensed residential etc. rate is for a service worker i.e. one who normally receives tips.

RETAIL BREAD AND FLOUR CONFECTIONERY WAGES COUNCIL (SCOTLAND)*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

11 October 19716·756·7542
22 January 19738·0542
13 May 197410·3040
5 November 197410·30+3·20 cost of living supplement40
17 March 197510·30+4·40 cost of living supplement40
8 September 197517·5040
26 July 197619·0340
8 September 197620·8540
8 September 197722·9540
8 September 197827·8540
30 April 197930·6040
3 December 197935·3540
2 June 198037·5540

* As from 1 September 1979 the Retail Food and Allied Trades Wages Council (Great Britain).

RETAIL BREAD AND FLOUR CONFECTIONERY WAGES COUNCIL (ENGLAND AND WALES)*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Sales assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

30 August 19718.457.3041
30 August 19728.457.3040
12 February 19739.108.8040
25 February 197410.2040

Effective date of wages council's order

Sales assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

5 August 197411.35+2.40 cost of living supplement40
16 August 197411.35+ 2.80 cost of living supplement40
18 October 197411.35+ 3.20 cost ofliving supplement40
7 April 197511.35+4.40 cost of living supplement40
10 November 197518.2040
26 July 197620.2040
8 November 197622.0740
5 December 197724.8040
4 December 197831.6040
3 December 197936.4040
2 June 198038.6040

* As from 1 September 1979 the Retail Food and Allied Trades Wages Council (Great Britain)

RETAIL FOOD TRADES WAGES COUNCIL (ENGLAND AND WALES)*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for sales assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

2 August 19717.757.2042
20 March 19727.757.2041
26 February 19738.908.7541
20 August 19738.908.7540
25 March 19749.859.8540
21 October 197410.20+3.20 cost of living supplement10.20+3.20 cost of living supplement40
15 November 197410.20+4.40 cost of living supplement10.20+4.40 cost of living supplement40
3 November 197516.8040
29 December 197516.8040
19 July 197619.1540
8 November 197621.2540
5 December 197724.0540
11 December 197829.4040
3 December 197933.9540
2 June 198036.0540

* As from 1 September 1979 the Retail Food and Allied Trades Wages Council (Great Britain).

RETAIL FOOD TRADES WAGES COUNCIL (SCOTLAND)*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

9 August 19718.007.2542
26 February 19739.158.8041
18 March 197410.5010.3040
1 July 197411.4011.2540
30 September 197411.40+2.80 cost of living supplement11.25+2.80 cost of living supplement40
18 October 197411.40+3.20 cost of living supplement11.25+3.20 cost of living supplement40
21 April 197511.40+4.40 cost of living supplement11.25+4.40 cost of living supplement40
24 November 197517.7040
29 December 197518.2040
26 July 197619.7040

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

24 November 197621.4540
5 December 197724.5040
25 December 197829.4040
3 December 197933.9540
2 June 198036.0540

* As from 1 September 1979 the Retail Food and Allied Trades Wages Council (Great Britain)

RETAIL NEWSAGENCY, TOBACCO AND CONFECTIONERY TRADES WAGES COUNCIL (ENGLAND AND WALES).*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 but under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

18 October 19717·106·5042
10 January 19728·507·0042
5 February 19739·758·8042
22 April 197410·8010·2042
29 July 197412·0011·55
30 June 197518·4040
30 June 197623·0040
30 June 197725·2040
30 June 197828·2040
30 June 197933·2040
3 December 197935·2040
2 June 198039·6040

* As from 1 September 1979 the Retail Food and Allied Trades Wages Council (Great Britain)

RETAIL NEWSAGENCV, TOBACCO AND CONFECTIONERY WAGES COUNCIL *

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 but under 18 years.

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

15 November 19716·956·9542
28 February 19739·758·8042
25 March 197410·8010·2042
7 April 197514·1042
5 April 197617·9042
4 April 197719·6542
6 June 197719·8042
3 April 197822·4542
3 April 197927·6040
3 December 197929·7540
2 June 198033·8540

* As from 1 September 1979 the Retail Food and Allied Trades Wages Council (Great Britain)

RETAIL BOOKSELLING AND STATIONERY TRADES WAGES COUNCIL (GREAT BRITAIN)*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

4 October 19717·607·2542
8 January 19738·908·0540
25 February 197411·15+9·9010·75+9.3540
12 August 19742·40 cost of living supplement2·40 cost of living supplement40
16 August 197411·15+2·80 cost of living supplement10·75+2·80 cost of living supplement40
18 October 197411·15+3·20 cost of living supplement10·75+3·20 cost of living supplement40
7 April 197511·15+4·40 cost of living supplement10·75+4·40 cost of living supplement40
25 August 197517·9540
21 June 197620·9540
23 August 197622·9540
23 September 197725·8040

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

29 September 197831·3540
8 October 197935·0540
7 April 198035·0540

* As from 1.9.79 the Retail Trades Non-Food Wages Council (Great Britain)

RETAIL DRAPERY, OUTFITTING AND FOOTWEAR TRADES WAGES COUNCIL (GREAT BRITAIN)*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years

Effective date of wages council's order

Minimum rates for sales assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

5 July 19718.057.4042
6 March 19728.057.4041
1 October 19728.057.4040
9 October 19729.358.9540
4 February 197410.6510.4040
2 September 197411.15+2.80 cost of living supplement10.95+2.80 cost of living supplement40
18 October 197411.15+3.20 cost of living supplement10.95+3.20 cost of living supplement40
17 March 197411.15+4.40 cost of living supplement10.95+4.40 cost of living supplement40
7 July 197517.8517.6540
29 December 197517.8540
7 July 197622.4040
4 July 197724.6040
3 July 197827.6040
2 July 197931.9040
8 October 197933.6540
7 April 198034.1340

* As from 1.9.79 the Retail Trades Non-Food Wages Council (Great Britain)

RETAIL FURNISHING AND ALLIED TRADES WAGES COUNCIL (GREAT BRITAIN)*

Rates applicable to workers aged 17 and under 18 years.

Effective date of wages council's order

Shop assistants

Weekly hours

Male

Female

£

£

£

1 November 19718·157·3542
4 September 19729.758.8041
1 October 19729.758.8040
1 April 19739.759.2540
20 August 197311.0010.5040
4 September 197311.0040
26 August 197413.2540
16 December 197413.25+2.20 cost of living supplement40
6 October 197517.5540
29 September 197619.2140
6 October 197621.3740
7 November 197724.0040
6 November 197827.6040
8 October 197930.8040
7 April 198034.1340

* As from 1.9.79 The Retail Trades (Non-Food) Wages Council (Great Britain).

UNLICENSED PLACE OF REFRESHMENT WAGES COUNCIL

Rates applicable to people aged 17 and under 18 years for 40 hour week.

Effective date of wages council's order

Kitchen hand

Waiter

Waitress

Male

Female

£

£

£

£

£

£

10 April 19727.447.007.807.16
1 April 19737.807.328.167.52
30 October 19738.007.488.367.72
1 April 19749.369.089.729.44
23 June 197513.5613.1614.0813.68
27 October 197513.9213.4814.4414.04

Effective date of wages council's order

Kitchen hand

Waiter

Waitress

Male

Female

£

£

£

£

£

£

29 December 1975

*13.92

*14·44

21 June 197618.3218.84
20 June 197720.6221.14
29 June 197823.8824.36
28 June 197931.1231.52
28 June 19SS038.2539.00

* Equal pay

HAIRDRESSING UNDERTAKINGS WAGES COUNCIL (GREAT BRITAIN)

Rates for other workers other than hairdressers, receptionists, manicurists etc. aged 17 and under 18 years.

Effective date of wages council's order

Male

Female

Weekly hours

£

£

£

13 September 19716.855.7042
1 January 19737.706.5542
29 April 19748.558.5542
23 June 1975

*13.55

40
5 July 197616.5540
21 November 197719.0540
18 December 197822.5540
18 December 197926.0040

* Equal pay as from June 1975.

West Yorkshire

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many jobs have been lost through closures and redundancies in the wool textile industry in each month since June in the region of West Yorkshire; and if he will make a statement.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that according to its records, which are not comprehensive—they do not, for instance, cover redundancies affecting fewer than 10 people—the number of workers involved in redundancies confirmed as due to occur in the wool textile industry since June 1980 in the region of West Yorkshire was as follows:

MonthTotal
June677
July744
August692
September*263
October*236
* provisional.
The Government are naturally concerned about the difficulties facing the wool textile industry. We will continue to do all we can to protect the industry from any unfair competition, and we are committed to ensuring the strict implementation of the present multi-fibre arrangement. Furthermore, we shall press for a tough successor when the present MFA expires at the end of 1981. Assistance through the temporary short time working compensation scheme, under which the maximum period of support has recently been increased from six to nine months, will continue to be available to wool textile firms as an alternative to redundancies.

Skillcentres (Yorkshire)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report

a table to show the average waiting time for vacancies on each course offered by skillcentres in Bradford, Leeds and Wakefield; and if he will make a statement.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that waiting periods for admission to the skillcentre courses on offer at Bradford, Leeds and Wakefield are as listed in the table below, which shows the average period for each course as at 1 November 1980. The periods shown are approximate, and are subject to fluctuation.

Trade CourseApproximate waiting period for admission
Bradford skillcentreLeeds skillcentreWakefield skillcentre
Electrical/electronic courses
Electrical installation and maintenanceNo courseOver 12 months*No course
Industrial electronics9–12 monthsNo courseNo course
Instrument maintenanceNo courseOver 12 months*No course
Radio & TV electronic services4–6 months3–6 months3–5 months
Plant & automotive courses
Contractors plant repair & maintenanceNo course3–5 monthsOver 12 months*
Heavy vehicle repair & maintenance4–6 monthsNo courseOver 12 months*
Motor vehicle body repair4–6 monthsNo course3–5 months
Motor vehicle repair & maintenance6–8 months4–6 monthsOver 12 months*
Motor vehicle spray painting9–12 monthsNo courseOver 12 months*
Miscellaneous courses
Hairdressing (men's)No course6–8 monthsNo course
Storekeeping9–12 months6–8 months9–12 months
Wider opportunities courseOver 12 months*Over 12 months*No course
Wider opportunities (with English as a second language)6–8 months3–5 monthsNo course

Trade Course

Approximate waiting period for admission

Bradford skillcentre

Leeds skillcentre

Wakefield skillcentre

Short industrial courses
Miscellaneous engineering4–6 months5–7 months3–5 months
Construction courses
BricklayingOver 12 months*6–8 monthsOver 12 months*
Carpentry & joineryOver 12 months*Over 12 months*Over 12 months*
Heating and ventilating fittingNo courseNo course6–8 months
PlumbingNo course6–8 months3–5 months
Woodcutting machiningNo course3–6 monthsNo course
General construction4–7 monthsNo course3–5 months
Engineering courses
Capstan setting operatingNo course4–7 months3–5 months
Centre lathe turningNo course3–5 monthsNo course
Milling setting operatingNo course3–5 months3–5 months
Precision grindingNo course2–3 monthsNo course
Sheet metal workNo courseNo course3–5 months
Plate & structural steelworkNo courseNo course3–5 months
Welding electric arc (plate)6–8 months6–9 months4–5 months
DraughtsmanshipNo course2–3 months3–5 months
Fitting generalNo course3–6 monthsNo course
Fitting machine tool maintenance2–3 monthsNo courseNo course
Sewing machine mechanicsNo course2–4 monthsNo course
Typewriter repair and maintenance6–8 months6–8 monthsNo course
Watch and clock repairNo course6–8 monthsNo course

*Recruitment for this course has been suspended.

Work Experience Scheme

asked the Secretary of State for Employment at what date his Department ascertained that between 68 and 70 per cent, of young people on the work experience on employers' premises scheme go on into regular employment.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that these figures were obtained from a postal survey conducted in September 1979. The results were available from that date. However, the figures refer not only to a sample of young people who had been on work experience on employers' premises schemes, but also to project-based work experience and community service schemes as well as training workshops.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what percentage of young people who have left the work experience on employers' premises scheme during the last six months have entered normal employment.

I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that information on the destination of young people leaving work experience on employers' premises schemes in the last six months is not yet available.

Early Retirement

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the numbers of men and women who have taken early retirement in the years 1977, 1978, 1979 and 1980.

I assume the hon. Member is referring to the job release scheme. The figures are as follows:

YearMenWomenTotal
197716,7215,20221,923
197815,4925,45620,948
197953,1608,61561,775
1980 to 31 October24,9996,27131,270

Textile Industry (Redundancies)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing the number of female workers who have been made redundant in the wool textile industry for each month since January 1979, and the textile industry as a whole.

The information required is not available. The Manpower Services Commission maintains a record of the total number of workers involved in redundancies of 10 or more which have been confirmed as due to occur but the number of female workers is not separately identified.

Temporary Short-Time Working (Grants)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment whether he will enable those firms, such as Border Dairies, Carlisle, which have reached an agreement with the trades unions concerned on the basis of temporary short-time working on a 75 per cent, grant over six months, to meet agreements made on this basis rather than at the new basis of 50 per cent, over nine months.

Where applications for support were received after 21 November—the date that changes to the temporary short-time working compensation scheme were announced—it is not possible to reimburse employers at a higher rate than 50 per cent, for payments made on workless days. However, there are no upper limits on the payments which employers may make for short-time working approved under the TSTWC scheme.

Family Incomes

asked the Secretary of State for Employment, pursuant to his reply to the hon. Member for Holborn and St. Pancras, South, if he will give the figures for the average wages or salaries per head of household for one- and two-parent families showing separately the figures for those in (a) full time, (b) part-time employment and (c) not employed, showing in each case the total income per head of household.

Stalybridge, Hyde And Glossop

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many vacancies are registered for jobs in the Stalybridge, Hyde and Glossop employment office areas, and in what categories.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 November 1980]: The following table gives the numbers of notified vacancies remaining unfilled at employment offices and careers offices in the area specified, analysed by order of the standard industrial classification, at 8 August, the latest date for which this information is available.Vacancies notified to employment offices are estimated to be about one-third of all vacancies in the economy as a whole. Because of possible duplication the figures for employment offices and careers offices should not be added together.

At Employment officesAt Careers offices
Food, drink and tobacco17
Chemicals and allied industries2
Mechanical engineering5
Electrical engineering2
Metal goods not elsewhere specified3
Textiles3
Clothing and footwear31
Bricks, pottery, glass, cement, etc.1
Timber, furniture, etc.6
Paper, printing and publishing31
Other manufacturing industries21
Construction13
Transport and communication7
Distributive trades15
Insurance, banking, finance and business services8
Professional and scientific services6
Miscellaneous services16
Public administration and defence42
Total, all industries and services1156

asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many males and how many ferciales who left school and colleges in April and July 1980, respectively, are registered as unemployed in the Stalybridge, Hyde and Glossop employment office area.

Average Prices at December
Item19731977197819791980
1½ lbs Brussel sprouts12·15p15·45p16·65p20·40p*24·75p
3 lbs potatoes (white)6·90p12·30p12·90p20·10p*16·20p
1 pt beer (bottled/canned)*18·50p*37·70p*39·80p†46·90p†53·80
Cost of first class postage stamp3·50p9·00p9·00p10·00p12·00p
(Cost of 24 saamps)(84p)(£2·16)(£2·16)(£2·40)(£2·88)
* October prices
† August prices
I have do plans to publish a press notice.

Departmental Reports

asked the paymaster General if he will list those reports from Royal Commissions, official departmental committees or from ad hoc advisory groups established by his Department which have been published during the past 10 years by his Department—either totally or jointly with other Departments—and which have yet to be debated in the House.

[pursuant to his reply, 28 November 1980]: At 13 November the provisional number of unemployed people under 18 years of age in the area covered by the Stalybridge, Hyde and Glossop employment offices, who had not been in employment since completing full-time education was 197—89 males and 108 females. The unemployment statistics do not separately identify those who left school at particular times but the corresponding figure at 13 March 1980, the last count date before the Easter school leaving period, was 14—4 males and 10 females.The youth opportunities programme is available to help unemployed young people, and I announced on 21 November 1980 that the Government has decided to expand YOP from 250–260,000 places in the current year to 430,000 to 440,000 places in 1981–82. The programme will focus particularly on the groups of young people in the immediate post school years.

Christmas Items (Prices)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment the prices of the following Christmas items in December 1973, 1977, 1978, 1979 and their current prices: turkey, 14 lb. fresh, mince pies, 6, Christmas pudding, 1½ lb, Christmas cake, 40 oz, Brussel sprouts, 1½ lb, potatoes, 3 lb, ½ lb of chocolates, assorted nuts (cooked 8 oz), Christmas tree, 5 ft, tree lights, tinsel, Christmas crackers, bottle of gin, bottle of whisky, bottle of brandy, pint of beer, Christmas cards, 2 doz, wrapping paper, 5 sheets, postage, 1st class X 24, toys and games, Christmas parcels, 4 x 2 kilos; and if he will publish a press release drawing attention to these price rises.

[pursuant to his reply, 24 November 1980]: Details of most of these price movements are not readily available. The following is the only available information:

Arts And Libraries (Expenditure)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will publish in the Official Report a breakdown of the figures for expenditure on arts and libraries contained in table 2.10 of Cmnd. 7841, identifying separately expenditure on (a) the arts, (b) libraries, (c) museums, (d) the division between current and capital expenditure for each of the headings (a) to (c) and (e) the division between local and national expenditure for the headings (a) to (d).

A detailed breakdown of the outturn figures for past years is not available in the form requested and its preparation will require a good deal of computation. I will send it to the hon. Member as soon as possible. The figures for 1981–82 are being overtaken by the preparation of Estimates and the rate support grant settlemant for that year, which will be announced as soon as possible. As I told the hon. Member on 4 August 1980 — [Vol. 990, c. 21]—the figures for future years represent intermediate planning totals, and it would be unrealistic to subdivide them. They should in any event be seen in the light of the statement made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 24 November 1980.—[Vol. 994, c. 312–17.].

Parliamentary Pensions And Salaries

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will provide details in the Official Report of the various pension schemes for Members of Parliament in the countries of the EEC, including such details as lump sum payments, contributions—expressed as a percentage of salary—and death in service payments, and so on; and how such schemes compare with those for judges, and those in the civil and public service, especially the police and firemen.

The latest information available centrally about pension schemes for Members of Parliament in the countries of the EEC is as follows:

Belgium

Members of Parliament pay 6½ per cent, of salary to a contributory pension scheme. If they have served for eight years or more they qualify for a pension at the age of 55, equivalent to 3.75 per cent of salary for each year of service.

Denmark

After eight years' service ex-Members of Parliament are entitled to a pension at age 67, but the Speaker and his Deputies can authorise payment from an earlier age. Rates are linked to Civil Service pensions and are adjusted for cost of living increases. Pensions are abated if the ex-Member of Parliament receives State old-age pension and/or any other public sector (including ministerial) pension. The total pension may not exceed the highest Civil Service rate.

France

A contributory pension is available at age 55. The size of the pension varies with the number of years over which contributions have been paid.

Federal Republic of Germany

Members of Parliament pensions are non-contributory. Entitlement is from age 65 with eight years' service; from 60 with 12 years; from 55 with 16 years. Rates vary between 35 percent, and 75 per cent, of final basic salary.

Irish Republic

There is a compulsory contributory pension scheme for all deputies and senators. After a minimum of eight years' total service a pension of 1/40th of salary per year of service is payable on retirement. This rises to 2/3rds of salary after 27 years service.

Italy

Deputies and senators belong to a compulsory contributory pension scheme. After five years' service and age 60, a retired Member of Parliament receives a taxable pension depending on the number of Parliaments in which he has served. The amount of pension varies from 25 per cent, of gross salary after five years' service up to a maximum of 85 per cent, after 35 years.

Luxembourg

There are no parliamentary pensions. Few Members of Parliament are full-time politicians and most have other occupations.

The Netherlands

There is a non-contributory pension payable at age 65 for Second Chamber Members. For every year of service up to a maximum of 20 years they receive 3·5 per cent, of their average salary earned over the last three years of office.

United Kingdom

Hon. Members contribute 6 per cent, of salary to the pension scheme. Provided that they have four years' reckonable service, once they have left the House of Commons they qualify at age 65 for a pension of l/60th of pensionable salary for each year of reckonable service. A full pension may also be paid to an ex-Member who retires at the age of 62 and who has 25 years' service. An actuarially reduced pension may be paid from age 60.

I regret that information about public service pension schemes generally in EEC countries is not available centrally and could only be obtained at disproportionate cost. The interpretation of such comparisons may not be straightforward, as it is necessary to take account of differing national backgrounds and traditions. The provisions of the United Kingdom Parliamentary Pension Scheme are broadly comparable with those of most main public services in this country.

National Heritage Memorial Fund

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will outline the objectives for which the national heritage memorial fund has been established; and if those objectives include items of industrial archaeology.

The national heritage memorial fund was established to provide financial assistance for the acquisition, maintenance and preservation of land, buildings and objects of outstanding historic or other interest. Such property may include items of industrial archaeology.

Civil Service

Toilet Paper

asked the Minister for the Civil Service how long it has taken his Department to negotiate with the interests concerned with regard to the supply and use of toilet paper in the Civil Service Departments; what would have been the actual or estimated increased costs to the Exchequer for the use of twin-ply soft tissues; and whether he will publish in the Official Report the correspondence on acceptance he issued to the Council of the Civil Service Union's welfare committee on this subject.

I am told that this matter has been under discussion for some years, but agreement was reached recently. I have had no correspondence on this topic with anyone. Twin-ply soft tissues would have cost between £350,000 and £600,000 extra per annum.

Defence

Royal Ordnance Factories

10.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his policy on the future ownership and organisation of the Royal ordnance factories; and if he will make a statement.

The future development of the Royal ordnance factories organisation is at present being considered by a study group under the chairmanship of my noble Friend the Minister of State for Defence. The study group's report is expected in a few weeks's time: it will then have to be considered by the Government. The House will be informed of the outcome as soon as possible.

Diego Garcia

11.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will now answer questions about allied use of the Diego Garcia military base.

Provisions governing the use of the facilities at Diego Garcia are set out in the published Anglo-US agreement of 1976. Decisions on specific questions of use will be made in the light of circumstances at the time.

Gibraltar

12.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether he will make a statement on the arrangements for defence of Gibraltar's air strip; and whether it is intended to install Rapier missiles there.

The responsibility for defence of the Gibraltar airfield lies with the anti-aircraft troop of the Gibraltar Regiment, who are armed with L40/70 Bofors guns. We have no plans to instal Rapier.

Training Flights (Fuel Costs)

13.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the average cost of fuelling RAF aircraft for each hour of training flights.

About £100 for flying training aircraft and £550 for advanced combat aircraft.

Reserve Forces (Mobility)

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what lessons he has learnt from this year's North Atlantic Treaty Organisation exercises in Germany in respect of the mobility of our reserve forces within the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation area.

Crusader 80 has demonstrated our ability to move large numbers of the Territorial Army swiftly and effectively to reinforce BAOR, should the need arise. As I indicated on 28 October, it will take several months before all the lessons of the exercise can be evaluated but undoubtedly valuable lessons have been learnt.

Territorial Army

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what proportion of the annual 3 percent. Increase in defence expenditure has been earmarked for enlarging the Territorial Army.

Expenditure on the TA will continue to increase as strengths rise towards the establishment. The total spend will be determined in the light of overall priorities within the defence programme, taking account of manpower, equipment and accommodation requirements, and available resources.

Conventional Weapons (Purchasing Policy)

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what are the implications for the purchase of conventional weapons consequential upon the proposed expenditure of £5 billion on the Trident missile system.

We shall maintain and improve both our nuclear and our conventional forces.

North Atlantic Treaty Organisation

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he proposes holding discussions with his North Atlantic Treaty counterparts with a view to reducing the proportional amount of cash spent by the United Kingdom on its North Atlantic Treaty Organisation commitments; and if he will make a statement.

Cruise Missiles

18.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what representations he has received about the cost and dangers of introducing cruise missiles to Great Britain and the proposed Polaris replacement programme.

Since the NATO modernisation programme was agreed last December, I have received just over 1,000 letters and some 20 petitions on the decision to base US ground-launched Cruise missiles in the United Kingdom. Since the announcement in July of the Government's decision to acquire the Trident missile system, I have received about 80 letters and two petitions on this subject.

Defence Procurement

19.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he is satisfied with the current arrangements for defence procurement.

I am satisfied that the fundamental principle of concentrating defence procurement activity in a single procurement executive, as recommended by Sir Derek Rayner in 1971, remains sound. However, in view of the need to manage defence procurement activity within reduced staff resources, a series of reviews is being conducted and discussions held with industry to establish both the optimum deployment of staff and the most efficient methods of working.

Press And Public Relations

20.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence why his Department and the three Armed Services spend over £3 million on press and public relations.

The Services perform a wide variety of essential tasks for the nation. To aid public understanding, at national and local levels, of the range of their responsibilities, I judge it right to spend a very small fraction of the defence budget on press and public relations.

Chemical Weapons

21.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what discussions he has had with his counterpart in the United States Administration on the predisposition of chemical weapons in Europe.

None. What we have discussed is the serious threat to the West posed by Soviet military strength, one element of which is the Soviet Union's massive chemical warfare capability.

Departmental Staff (Scotland)

22.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if he will issue a statement of the positive date when a start will be made in the dispersal of the 1,400 posts from his Department to Scotland.

I refer my hon. Friend to the answer I gave on 24 November.—[Vol. 994, c. 31.]

Defence Expenditure

23.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if Her Majesty's Government's future expenditure planned in respect of defence remains as outlined in Cmnd. 7841.

No, I refer my hon. Friend to the statement made by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 24 November.

26.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence if any changes have been made in the planned allocation of defence expenditure as the result of the decision to replace the Polaris system with Trident; or if the costs are additional to increases proposed prior to his statement on the replacement of the United Kingdom's independent nuclear deterrent.

Expenditure on Trident will be contained within the published defence budget totals. Changes are continually occurring in the planned allocation of defence expenditure for a variety of reasons. It is not possible to identify any resulting specifically from the decision to purchase Trident.

27.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is the current level of defence expenditure per head of the United Kingdom population; and how the Government intend this to change over the next three years.

About £200 this year at current prices. On the same price basis this is expected to rise to about £220 by 1983–84.

34.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what is his estimate of the real percentage growth in defence spending during the current financial year.

36.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence what percentage increase in defence expenditure he expects in the next financial year.

Trident Missiles

24.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether his Department plans to continue with the Trident missile programme.

Long-Range Defence Capability

25.

asked the Secretary of State for Defence whether it is the intention that the British long range defence capability should make use of United States bases on the eastern coastline of Africa or on the Arabian Peninsula.

The United States has no bases in the areas mentioned. It has recently negotiated access to facilities owned by various Governments in the region, and in some cases these facilities are to be up-graded as part of the agreement. We have not, however, so far identified any requirement for our own forces to seek use of whatever extra facilities may be created.