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Written Answers

Volume 996: debated on Monday 15 December 1980

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Written Answers To Questions

Monday 15 December 1980

Home Department

Civil Defence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he proposes to make an appointment of someone to harness volunteer effort in the civil defence field in England and Wales as envisaged in his statement on 7 August.

The person appointed will have terms of reference requiring him to advise on, co-ordinate and stimulate the harnessing of voluntary effort at all levels in relation to civil home defence preparedness, by liaison with appropriate voluntary organisations and with local authorities and their staff. He will work closely with the appropriate Home Office officials, and will have direct access to me and the Minister of State.To this post I have decided to appoint Air Marshal Sir Leslie Mayor, K.C.B., A.F.C., D.L., F.R.A.e.S., R.A.F., (Retd), the present principal of the Home Defence College at Easingwold. Sir Leslie's present appointment will terminate on 31 December, and he will take up his new duties on 1 January. A new principal for the Home Defence College will be appointed.Sir Leslie's close involvement with civil defence planning during the last seven years makes him exceptionally well qualified for his new post, and I know that he can count on the fullest support from the voluntary organisations and from local authorities and their staff.

Shoplifting

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department when he expects to be able to announce the results of his review of the law as it concerns shoplifting.

The review, by the Home Office standing committee on crime prevention, of measures to prevent shoplifting is taking into account suggestions made by my hon. Friend and others about possible changes of law and practice in this field. The review will take some months to complete.

Police Raids (South Wales)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he will call for a report from the chief constable of South Wales on the police raid on two houses occupied by students at University College, Swansea at dawn on Saturday 6 December for the purpose of apprehending alleged Palestinian terrorists.

There was no such operation on 6 December. The chief constable of South Wales constabularly tells me that, acting on information received about possible plans for terrorist activity, members of his force on 28 November at 6 am executed three warrants under the Criminal Damage Act at hostels belonging to Swansea University College. Any complaint arising from this operation is a matter for the statutory complaints machinery.

Crown Agents

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how long the tribunal of inquiry into the Crown Agents has been sitting; how many days of the week it usually sits and for how many hours; what fees are paid to members of the tribunal; what has been the cost to public funds of its sittings thus far; how much longer it is likely to sit; and when it is expected to report.

The tribunal was appointed on 1 March 1978, held preliminary public meetings in April and July and began regular hearings on 18 September of that year. These have now taken place on 243 days.The tribunal normally sits from 10.30 am to 4.15 pm on four days a week, except in law vacations and pauses between stages of the inquiry. The public hearing of evidence is likely to be completed by the end of January 1981, and the tribunal's report submitted towards the end of next year.The chairman receives his normal judicial salary; the other two members receive a fee of £10,000 a year in respect of an estimated four days a week spent on the work of the tribunal.Total estimated expenditure to the end of November 1980 is approximately £1·6 million. This figure does not, however, cover the costs of accommodation for the hearing in Government buildings or fees for legal services for which bills have yet to be presented or processed for payment.

Member's Correspondence

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department why there has been no reply to the letter dated 5 November from the hon. Member for Islington, South and Finsbury to Lord Belstead concerning the delay in dealing with correspondence addressed to the Metropolitan Police by Mr. Macleod of Gosport and the Home Secretary's responsibilities as Police Authority for the Metropolis.

Lotteries And Amusements

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will consider increasing the limit of the total value of tickets or chances sold under a lottery promoted under section 5 of the Lotteries and Amusement Act 1976.

I propose to make an order doubling the monetary limits applicable to societies' lotteries and local lotteries, but the new limits cannot come into effect until certain technical problems have been resolved.

Fascist Propaganda

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department what is the Government's attitude to Council of Europe Resolution 743 on the need to combat resurgent fascist propaganda and its racist aspects, adopted by the Assembly on 1 October 1980; and what follow-up action is planned.

The Government agree with the spirit of this resolution and unhesitatingly condemn all forms of extremist violence. At the request of the Committee of Ministers of the Council of Europe we are supplying information about our race relations and public order legislation. The latter, including the offence of incitement to racial hatred, is currently under review, and we shall be announcing our conclusions in due course.

Electoral Arrangements (Manchester)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department, further to his reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe, 10 November, column 11, whether he, or any other Minister in his Department, has held any discussions with party leaders on the Manchester city council since, and about any implications of, his decision in principle to make an order giving effect to the Local Government Boundary Commission's proposals for new electoral arrangements in Manchester.

The only discussions of this kind took place when the leader of the Conservative Party group on the city council telephoned my hon. and learned Friend the Minister of State.

Electoral Arrangements (Cumbria)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is yet able to confirm that the new electoral divisions as recommended will come into force for the Cumbria county council elections in 1981.

The Local Government Boundary Commission for England submitted to me on 3 November its report proposing new electoral arrangements for Cumbria. Subject to any representations which he may receive before 16 December, my right hon. Friend intends to make an order giving effect to the commission's proposals, with or without modificatons, in time for the elections to be held in May 1981.

Migration Policy

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department whether he will recommend the setting up of a Royal Commission to review migration policy.

Republic Of Ireland (Voting Rights)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department how many citizens of the Republic of Ireland are entitled to vote in United Kingdom general elections (a) in Great Britain and (b) in Northern Ireland; and how many British citizens would be entitled to vote in the Republic of Ireland if a reciprocal situation existed.

The labour force survey taken in 1979 suggested that there may be close to half a million citizens of the Irish Republic aged 18 and over resident in the United Kingdom. Those whose names appear on an electoral register in Great Britain would be entitled to vote at all elections. In Northern Ireland the electoral register contains a marker against the names of those who are entitled to vote in Westminster and European Parliament elections but not in local elections. There are some 5,000 such electors on the 1979 register, almost all of whom would be citizens of the Irish Republic. But there are also on the Northern Ireland electoral register other citizens of the Irish Republic who are not separately identified.The only available information concerning British citizens who might be entitled to vote in parliamentary elections in the Republic of Ireland if a reciprocal situation existed is that according to their 1971 census, some 52,000 persons (not all of whom would be of voting age) resident in the Republic claimed that they had been born in Great Britain. Some of these persons would have acquired citizenship of the Irish Republic and would therefore already have the right to vote in such elections.

Immigrants (Medical Examination)

asked the Secretary of State for the Home Department if he is now in a position to make available the report of Sir Henry Yellowlees on the medical examination of immigrants.

The Arts

22.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether he is satisfied with the level of public sector financial support for the arts.

Yes. I think that the grants that I have already announced on 9 December, in reply to a question from my hon. Friend the Member for Staffordshire, South-West (Mr. Cormack)—[Vol. 995, c. 535]—will be seen to be fair and reasonable. The proposed grants to the Arts Council of £80 million, British Film Institute of £6·4 million and Crafts Council of £1·4 million represent increases of approximately 14 per cent., 11 per cent. and 17 per cent. respectively on present levels. Equally important, the grants have been announced four months ahead of the opening of the financial year so that these bodies can plan ahead.

23.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will announce the amount by which commercial firms have increased their sponsorship of the arts for the current year 1980–81.

An accurate measurement would require specific research at the end of the financial year. The London Business School reports a figure of £2·8 million for 1978–79, but there is every indication that there has been a substantial growth in business sponsorship of the arts during the last 12 months, and the figure of £4 million to £5 million estimated by the Association for Business Sponsorship of the Arts appears about right. I am delighted by this progress.

Arts And Crafts

24.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether he will consider taking new measures to provide young persons with greater opportunities to pursue careers in arts and crafts.

I am always interested in providing opportunities for young people to pursue careers in the arts and crafts. Initial training is a matter for my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Education and Science, but both the Arts and the Crafts Councils have bursary schemes that are available to young people to enable them to undertake in-career training.The grants I have proposed for the Arts and Crafts Councils next year should enable them to continue these and to maintain the level of support for the arts and the crafts generally in ways which provide employment opportunities for young people.

Arts Council

25.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster when he expects to announce the level of grant for the Arts Council for 1981–82.

26.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he has yet decided on the grant to be given to the Arts Council in 1981–82.

I announced on 9 December that I am proposing a grant of £80 million to the Arts Council for the coming financial year.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how much was spent in the last three complete years by the Arts Council and regional arts associations on municipal activities.

The information is not available in the terms requested. The Arts Council itself has given subsidies to organisations based in the six metropolitan counties and the GLC, but excluding grants to national companies and other national bodies, in the three financial years 1977–78, 1978–79 and 1979–80 of £4·3 million, £5·4 million and £6·1 million respectively.

Victoria And Albert Museum (Slide Library)

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster what alternative arrangements the Victoria and Albert museum intends to make for the public availability of the Victoria and Albert slide library.

I am considering a number of possible arrangements. I cannot yet say which will be chosen. The vital point is that the service should continue.

Public Lending Right

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster how he intends to proceed about bringing into operation the public lending right.

The Public Lending Right Act 1979 requires me to prepare a scheme for the administration of PLR, subject to the approval of Parliament. Early in the new year, as soon as the draft scheme is complete, I expect to have final consultations and then to lay the scheme before both Houses. The registrar will be appointed during 1981 with a view to bringing public lending right into operation in the 1982–83 financial year.

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster when he intends to appoint the registrar to run the public lending right scheme.

Codrington Papers

asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether, since the dispersal by sale would be archivally damaging, he will ask the standing committee on the export of work of art to refuse an export licence to anyone other than the Government of Antigua for the Codrington papers.

If an export licence were to be applied for and an objection to export raised by the appropriate expert adviser, it would be for me to decide on the grant of a licence in the light of the recommendation of the Reviewing Committee on the Export of Works of Art. I cannot anticipate what recommendation the reviewing committee might make in that event, but I can assure the hon. Member that all relevant factors would be taken into account.

Wales

Unemployed Persons

14.

asked the Secretary of State for Wales what is the present level of unemployment in Wales: and what steps he proposes to take to reduce this level.

I refer the hon. Member to the answer I gave to the hon. Member for Flint, East (Mr. Jones) earlier today. Unemployment in Wales as elsewhere will not fall significantly until we reduce inflation and restore the conditions in which British industry can compete successfully.

Burns (Treatment)

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when it is his intention to finance the opening and maintenance of a specialised unit for the treatment of burns in South-West Wales, west of Bridgend.

My intention is to replace the present burns unit at St. Lawrence hospital, Chepstow, with a purpose-built unit in South Glamorgan. There are no plans for an additional unit in South-West Wales.

Antenatal Clinics

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list the main antenatal clinics in the Principality which as yet are not provided with ultra-sound diagnostic facilities.

Morriston Hospital, Swansea

asked the Secretary of State for Wales why a new cardio-respiratory surgeon based at Morriston hospital, Swansea, is not to be appointed when the present surgeon in that speciality retires.

The Welsh Medical Committee had advised that thoracic surgery should be carried out at a regional centre to be established in South Glamorgan.

Pupil—Teacher Ratios

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will publish a table indicating for each local education authority in Wales, the ratio of pupils to teachers in primary schools and in secondary schools, respectively, for the latest period for which figures are available.

The information, which relates to January 1980, is as follows:

Pupil/teacher ratios within schools
Maintained SchoolsPrimarySecondary
Clwyd23.117.0
Dyfed18.416.8
Gwent22.816.1
Gwynedd20.516.2
Mid Glamorgan23.616.8
Powys18.716.0
South Glamorgan23.216.8
West Glamorgan21.116.4

Bronglais Hospital, Aberystwyth

asked the Secretary of State for wales if he has any plans to build the second phase of Bronglais hospital, Aberystwyth during the next five years; and if he will make a statement.

No. The priority of the Dyfed health authority remains the replacement of Llanelli general hospital.

North-East Wales Traffic Study

asked the Secretary of State for Wales when he proposes to release the North-East Wales trafic study; and if he will make a statement.

I have nothing to add to my reply to the hon.Member on 24 November 1980—[Vol. 994, c. 26.]

Hospital Construction

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will indicate the estimated start and completion date of (a) the new Wrexam district general hospital and (b) the Mold and Buckley community hospital; if he will indicate their proposed costs and the amount of local labour planned for the construction period; and if he will make a statement.

Authorisation has been given for the invitation of tenders for the construction of the Wrexham district general hospital and work should commence about the autumn of next year. The construction period will be three years, and the cost approximately £13 million. It is not yet possible to say when work on the Mold community hospital will start, but the cost is estimated to be £1·5 million. Contractors will be expected to make full use of labour available locally.

Thermal Insulation Grants

asked the Secretary of State for Wales if he will list for each Welsh local authority, the amount allocated for energy conservation measures within the total housing investment programme, single-block allocations for 1980–81.

The allocations made to individual local authorities for private sector thermal insulation grants are as follows:

£
Aberconwy BC17,000
Afan BC15,000
Alyn and Deeside DC26,000
Arfon BC26,000
Blaenau Gwent BC48,000
Brecknock BC14,000
Cardiff CC78,000
Carmarthen DC25,500
Ceredigion DC27,000
Colwyn BC18,000
Cynon Valley BC27,000
Delyn BC15,000
Dinefwr BC14,000
Dwyfor DC14,000
Glyndwr DC25,000
Islwyn BC36,000
Llanelli BC32,000
Lliw Valley BC37,000
Meirionnydd DC14,000
Merthyr Tydfil BC36,000
Monmouth DC16,000
Montgomery DC15,000
Neath BC27,000
Newport BC52,000
Ogwr BC41,000
Preseli DC17,000
Radnor DC12,000
Rhondda BC49,000
Rhuddlan BC17,000
Rhymney Valley BC38,000
South Pembrokeshire DC14,000
Swansea CC59,000
Taff Ely BC37,000
Torfaen BC38,000
Vale of Glamorgan BC40,000
Wrexham Maelor BC40,000
Ynys Mon BC26,000
Total1,079,500
Included in these figures are the allocations for the elderly in special need which I listed in my reply to the hon. Member for Carmarthen (Dr. Thomas) on 27 November—[Vol. 994, c.

236.]

There are no specific allocations for public sector properties. It is for each authority to decide what resources to use for energy conservation measures in its own properties.

Hidden Economy

asked the Prime Minister what improvements were made to the national accounts estimates of the various components of the hidden economy prior to the publication of the 1980 National Income and Expenditure Blue Book; and what resources are at present devoted by the Central Statistical Office and the Inland Revenue to making further improvements.

The assessment of the minimum size of the hidden economy, described in the February 1980 issue of Economic Trends, was based on differences between totals of reported income and reported expenditure. In compiling the 1980 National Income and Expenditure Blue Book, the assessment was revised in the light of later information on income and expenditure. The allowance currently made for the hidden economy in the income measure of gross domestic product is of the order of 2½ per cent.

It is part of the continuing work of the Central Statistical Office to monitor and improve the quality and coverage of national income and expenditure statistics; but no further resources have been allocated specifically to measuring the hidden economy. Nor does the Inland Revenue deploy resources specifically to this end, although to the extent that additional information about the hidden economy becomes available from their enforcement and investigation work it will be reflected in the incomes data supplied to the CSO.

Peers (Appointments)

asked the Prime Minister whether she will give, at the latest and most convenient date, the names of peers who hold any appointments sponsored or coming under the control of her Department and the salary or expenses paid or claimed; and how many meetings of conferences, committees or non-departmental public bodies for which she is responsible held during the past 12 months were attended by them.

I have nothing to add to the replies being given by my colleagues to similar questions from the hon. Member.

Royal Visit (Gibraltar)

asked the Prime Minister what advice was tendered to Her Majesty the Queen by her Ministers that Gibraltar should not be included in the places visited by Her Majesty during her recent visit to the Mediterranean area.

Ministers' advice to the Queen is, and must remain, confidential.

North Atlantic Treaty Organisation

asked the Prime Minister when she next intends to meet North Atlantic Treaty Organisation representatives.

Public Service Salaries

asked the Prime Minister, further to her reply of 9 December relating to the growing practice of persons holding positions as heads and deputy heads of the various departments in local authorities and Government Departments receiving salaries and benefits in excess of the Minister of the Crown who has ministerial responsibilities for such organisations, why she will not take steps to ensure that Ministers issue a general circular advising that such salaries should not exceed those paid to Ministers of the Crown.

The relative salary levels of Ministers and the higher Civil Service are determined by the Government's decisions on the recommendations of the Top Salaries Review Body. No further action by the Government is necessary.The salaries of senior local authority officials are a matter for the local authorities themselves to determine within the constraints of cash limits. We have no intention of interfering with this arrangement.

Industry

Microtechnology

15.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what discussions he has had with Inmos Ltd. about the location of its second microchip manufacturing unit.

My right hon. Friend has received assurances from the company that its second United Kingdom production plant will be located in an assisted area. It is too early to say what the actual location will be.

Manufacturing Industry (Capital Investment)

16.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what has been the percentage change in the level of capital investment in manufacturing industry for the latest available 12-month period.

The volume of investment by manufacturing industry in the 12 months ending September 1980 was about 4 per cent. lower than in the previous 12 months. However, manufacturers are increasingly acquiring assets on financial lease from the service industries and, while firm information is not yet available, it is expected that such acquisitions will have moderated the fall.

Scrap Exports

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will remove scrap from schedule V—minerals and metals—to the Export of Goods (Control) Order 1978.

I am not prepared to recommend to the Secretary of State for Trade that scrap be removed from the Export of Goods (Control) Order 1978. Controls on exports of scrap operate on a European Community basis and their future is the subject of Community discussion.

Industrial Estates

asked the Secretary of State for Industry how many industrial estates are situated in the Middleton and Prestwich constituency; how many new factories are planned on these estates; how much space is available for future expansion; and to what extent he, and the local councils, control policy for the future development of these estates.

The English Industrial Estates Corporation has neither provided factories in the Middleton and Prestwich constituency, nor owns any land there at the present time, and it is not my right hon. Friend's intention to authorise the EIEC to undertake development there with public funds. The Department does not keep records of private sector or local authority industrial estates, land holdings, or future plans. Future industrial development in Middleton and Prestwich will depend upon private investment and local authority planning permission.

British Steel Corporation

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he has received the proposals of the British Steel Corporation on the future of the steel industry; and, if so, what is his response to them.

My right hon. Friend received the BSC corporate plan on 12 December. As he made clear in his reply to the hon. Member for Newport (Mr. Hughes) on 11 December—[Vol. 996 c. 763]—the Government do not expect to announce their response to the corporate plan until about the end of January.

asked the Secretary of State for Industry if he will make an estimate of the present cost to public funds of subsidising overmanning and low labour productivity in the British Steel Corporation.

I am not in a position to make estimates of this kind. Since the beginning of 1980, the BSC has reduced its manpower by over 40,000—rising to over 50,000 by the end of March 1981—and in announcing the proposals in the BSC corporate plan on 12 December Mr MacGregor said that the BSC would need a further reduction in personnel of at least 20,000, partly through further closures, but mainly to improve labour productivity.

Bl Ltd

asked the Secretary of State for Industry what contingency plans there are for the disposal to the private sector of viable element of BL Ltd.; and, if he has such plans, if he will place them in the Library prior to any such statement.

The only plan that the Government have before them relating to BL is the company's 1981 corporate plan. The Government will announce as soon as possible their decisions on the plan and on the associated funding request submitted by BL. Since the plan contains information which is commercially confidential, it cannot be placed in the Library.

Advance Factories

asked the Secretary of State for Industry whether he has plans to approve further public expenditure on the construction by the English Industrial Estates Corporation of additional advance factories.

My right hon. Friend has approved a provisional public sector programme providing approximately for a further 18 months' work. A copy of the corporation's announcement has been placed in the Library for the information of hon. Members.

Defence

Emergency Services Provision (Discipline)

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how many soldiers since 1977 have been disciplined for refusing orders when engaged in provision of emergency services during industrial action; if he will list each occasion on which this occurred and the numbers involved; how many of these were court martialled; and what other sentences were carried out.

Such detailed information is not readily available and it could not be obtained without disproportionate effort. However, no case of soldiers having been court martialled for such offences are known to the Ministry of Defence; and few, if any, cases of summary action by commanding officers are likely.

Territorial Army

asked the Secretary of State for Defence how much will be spent on the Territoral Army in 1980–81; what proportion this is of the total defence budget; and how much has been cut from the Territorial Army budget in 1980–81.

Territorial Army expenditure for 1980–81 was estimated at the start of the year to be £119·5 million at 1980 survey prices. This represented 1·25 per cent. of the total defence budget. The Territorial Army has not been immune from economies over the defence budget as a whole and estimated net savings totalling some £2·4 million have been made in the course of the year.

asked the Seretary of State for Defence what assumptions he makes about the proportion of the total Army strength which will be represented by members of the Territorial Army in the event of armed hostilities.

Upon completion of mobilisation it is planned that some 30 per cent. of the Army's total strength will consist of Territorial Army units.

Energy

Continental Shelf (Gas Prices)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will seek powers to enable him to fix the prices paid for gas sold from the United Kingdom continental shelf to the British Gas Corporation at a level approximately equivalent to the price of gas sold from the Norwegian sector or elsewhere.

No. Prices are a matter for negotiation between the British Gas Corporation and the producers.

North Sea Tax Regime

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether any of the 125 consortia comprising some 200 companies which have made application for 95 blocks in the seventh round of licensing have notified their intention or have withdrawn as of 9 December following the Chancellor of the Exchequer's proposals for a new tax regime for the North Sea.

No applicant groups have withdrawn or advised me of their intention to do so following the statement by my right hon. and learned Friend on 24 November.

Public Records (Release)

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will list in the Official Report those documents which he has requested the Lord Chancellor to release under section 5(1) of the Public Records Act within the 30-year time limit.

Gas-Gathering Pipeline

asked the Secretary of State for Energy if he will make a statement on recommendations made by the organising group for the gas-gathering pipeline before the Christmas Recess.

I have nothing to add to my answers to the hon. Member of 8 and 11 December.

Hydroelectric Power

asked the Secretary of State for Energy whether, in view of the increasing world interest in hydroelectric power, he will make a statement on the position in the United kingdom.

The United Kingdom has a long history in the use of hydroelectricity—even though our resources are limited. The hydroelectric component of public electricity supply has been fairly stable at around 1100 MW for many years, most of it being concentrated in Scotland. We have, however, seen a decline in the number of small hydroelectric sites which are typically owned and operated by private individuals or companies. In order to assess the potential offered by these sites, the Department of Energy commissioned Salford University to carry out a field study of Wales. The work has recently been completed and I have arranged for a copy of its report to be placed in the Library of the House. The report shows that there are over 560 sites in Wales with a practical capacity greater than 25 kw and that in total these sites offer a capacity of about 70 MW and an annual fuel saving of around 80,000 tonnes of oil equivalent.The economics of small scale hydroelectric schemes looks sufficiently promising for me to authorise the identification of specific schemes for further investigation.

Foreign And Commonwealth Affairs

Eastern Europe (Brezhnev Doctrine)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what is the Government's view of the so-called "Brezhnev doctrine" of the limited sovereignty of Socialist States in Eastern Europe.

This concept of "limited sovereignty" is inconsistent with the sovereign equality of States in international law, which is a basic principle of he United Nations Charter. It implies a claim to a right of intervention by one or more Communist States in the affairs of another sovereign and independent State which is contrary to international law and to the CSCE Final Act.

Falkland Islands

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will now set in hand the preparation of plans for the construction of an airport in the Falkland Islands capable of receiving long-range passenger and cargo aeroplanes from the United Kingdom

We have studied carefully the question of extending the runway of the present airfield, but concluded that there would not be sufficient traffic to warrant the very high capital cost, as well as the running cost to the Falkland Islands Government. However, should circumstances change, we should be happy to look at the question again.

Antigua And Barbuda

asked the Lord Privy Seal whether he is satisfied that the inhabitants of Antigua and Barbuda desire the fully independent status being planned for them by his Department.

Yes. All the political parties which contested the April 1980 General Election in Antigua included as part of their election platform a commitment to seek early independence. These parties polled 98 per cent. of the total votes cast in the election and 1·4 per cent. were cast for an independent member from Barbuda, who seeks a a special status for that island. Delegations from the Antigua Government and Opposition parties, and from Barbuda, are currently attending a constitutional conference at Lancaster House to consider the independence constitution for the State.

Northern Ireland

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement about efforts being made by official British representatives in the United States to present the facts about the hunger strikes in Northern Ireland.

This is a high priority for British officials in the United States. Their objective is to make the facts about Northern Ireland known as widely as possible and to rebut vigorously the misleading reports about the hunger strikes that have appeared in the United States media. Ministerial statements and a wide range of material prepared in conjunction with the Northern Ireland Office are disseminated to the United States media and political figures.In addition to briefings, our posts also encourage foreign journalists to visit Northern Ireland so that they can see the situation at first hand. More recently our representatives have arranged a programme of meetings and interviews in the United States for what we hope will be the first in a series of visits by Members of Parliament to help explain the facts about Northern Ireland.

Ireland

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many civil servants in his Department are concerned with the affairs of Northern Ireland and how many with relations with the Republic of Ireland.

The Republic of Ireland Department in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, which has a staff of seven, is concerned with political and economic relations with the Republic of Ireland, and with Northern Ireland questions in as much as they affect the United Kingdom's relations with the Republic and with other foreign countries. Otherwise, Northern Ireland's interests are handled along with those of the rest of the United Kingdom.

El Salvador

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will make a statement on the reaction of Her Majesty's Government to the atrocities in El Salvador and on the British abstention on the vote in the Human Rights Committee at the United Nations on El Salvador.

asked the Lord Privy Seal (1) whether he will make a statement about the British abstention at the United Nations on the resolution condemning the violation of human rights by the Government of El Salvador;(2) whether he will instruct the British representative at the United Nations to support future resolutions condemning the violation of human rights by the Government of El Salvador.

As has been said on a number of occasions, Her Majesty's Government deplore the violence taking place in El Salvador. My right hon. and noble Friend has sent a message to the Salvadorean Government expressing his concern. We abstained in the Third Committee vote because the resolution appeared unbalanced in singling out the Salvadorean Government for blame. However, we supported the call for an investigation by the Human Rights Commission.We are watching the situation closely and will decide on any further vote in accordance with our principle of condemning violations of human rights whenever they occur.

Hong Kong (Students)

asked the Lord Privy Seal if he will indicate the number of students leaving Hong Kong to undertake tertiary education courses in the United Kingdom, Candada and the United States of America, respectively, in the three years 1978, 1979 and 1980.

The numbers of student visa applications from Hong Kong for first-degree and postgraduate courses in the United Kingdom are as follows:

YearNumber of Applications
1978590
1979834
1980 (January to October only)573
The figures for Canada and the United States are not yet available. Further inquiries are being made and I shall write to my hon. Friend.

Departmental Manpower (Nationality)

asked the Lord Privy Seal how many citizens of Eire are employed in his Department.

Separate records are not maintained categorising staff by nationality. All staff are required to satisfy the nationality provisions of the Civil Service Commission general regulations before recruitment.

Council Of Ministers (Policy Decisions)

asked the Lord Privy Seal what powers are available to the Council of Ministers to ensure that its decisions on food exports to the Soviet Union are adhered to.

Implementation of the 15 January decision of the Council of Ministers on sales of agricultural products to the Soviet Union is the responsibility of the Commission. The Commission seeks the opinion of the product management committees on the individual measures required to implement that decision.All member States of the Community are represented on the management committees. If the opinion of the management committees on the Commission's proposals for implementation is adverse, the Commission cannot act wihout prior reference to the Council of Ministers. In addition to this, the Commission has reported from time to time to the Committee of Permanent Representatives and to the Council on the process of implementation.

asked the Lord Privy Seal if, when the Council of Ministers decided that exports of food to the Soviet Union should be restricted to traditional levels it gave any guidance to the EEC Commission on how such traditional levels should be calculated or determined.

The Council meeting on 15 January took a broad policy decision not to replace United States exports to the Soviet Union. The Commission subsequently circulated a paper with details of past levels of trade, and it is on this basis that the Commission has put forward to the individual management committees its proposals for implementing the 15 January decision.

Trade

Origin Marking

17.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if he will amend the draft order regarding origin marking so that the responsibility for correct indication of place of manufacture becomes the responsibility of the importer or manufacturer rather than the retailer.

The order published on 12 December, which has been amended to take account of practical points raised by the retail trade, will require United Kingdom manufacturers and importers to provide origin information in writing, if they supply goods to retailers unmarked after 1 January 1982.

Peers (Appointments)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether he will give at the latest or most convenient stated date the names of peers who hold any appointments sponsored by or coming under the control of his Department and the salary or expenses paid or claimed; and how many meetings or conferences, committees or non-departmental public bodies for which he is responsible, held during the past 12 months, were attended by them.

Appointments

HRH The Duke of KentVice-ChairmanBritish Overseas Trade Board
British Overseas Trade Advisory
MemberCouncil
Member of
Lord AnnanNewspaper PanelMonopolies and Mergers Commission
Lord BraboumeMemberCinematograph Films Council
Interim Action Committee on the Film
MemberIndustry
Lord BridgesMemberBritish Overseas Trade Board
British Overseas Trade Advisory
MemberCommittee
Interim Action Committee on the Film
Lord DelfontMemberIndustry
Lord EbbishamMemberEuropean Trade Committee
Lord GlenkinglassMemberBritish Hallmarking Council
Lord GrantchesterChairmanLicensed Dealers Tribunal
Lord IpsdenMemberSino-British Trade Council
Lord LimerickChairmanBritish Overseas Trade Board
MemberBritish Overseas Trade Council
Interim Action Committee on the Film
Lord LloydMemberIndustry
British Overseas Trade Advisory
Lord NelsonMemberCouncil
ChairmanSino British Trade Council
British Overseas Trade Advisory
Lord PritchardMemberCouncil
Lord RemnantDirectorNational Film Finance Corporation *
Advisory Committee on Historic
Viscount RuncimanChairmanWreck Sites
British Overseas Trade Advisory
Council, Chairman Committee for
Lord SelsdonMemberMiddle East Trade
British Overseas Trade Advisory
Lord ShackletonMemberCouncil
ChairmanEast European Trade Council

* Lord Remnant's appointment is the only salaried post among those listed; the rate is £1,500 p.a.

Provision of the other information requested would involve disproportionate cost.

European Community (Directives And Regulations)

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many EEC directives or regulations which are at present in force were resisted by his Department before their implementation.

Many directives and regulations of the Council already existed at the time of our accession. Others opposed in the form in which they were put forward may have been improved in negotiation or negotiated as part of a package of measures, the overall effect of which was advantageous to the United kingdom. Thus it is not possible to identify the number of regulations and directives which may have been resisted prior to adoption. Once a regulation or directive has been adopted it is not the policy of the Government to oppose its implementation.

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how many representations he has received from (a) buiness men (b) trade associations, (c) trades unions and (d) the general public against EEC policy, directives or regulations since membership.

I regret that the information is not available. Even if it were practicable to assemble it, the cost would be disproportionate. All representations received are, of course, given due consideration by my Department.

Eurocontrol

asked the Secretary of State for Trade whether following the meeting of the permanent commission of Eurocontrol on Thursday 20 November, he will make a statement on the future of Eurocontrol.

At the meeting of the Permanent Commission of Eurocontrol, the European organisation for the safety of air navigation on 20 November I took the chair, and my hon. Friend the Under-Secretry of State for Defence for the Royal Air Force led the United Kingdom delegation.The Permanent Commission approved the five year plan for Eurocontrol, the investment and operating budgets, long-term costings, and a new agreement on route charges (in which non-member States may participate). It also took an important decision about the future role and activities of the organisation, by approving a draft protocol amending the Eurocontrol international convention of 1960. This amending protocol is to be signed at a diplomatic conference early next year and, subject to ratification by the member States, will come into force on 1 March 1983.The arrangements embodied in the protocol are the result of several years' intensive study to define the role of Eurocontrol after 1983 when the initial 20 year term of the 1960 convention is due to end. The Permanent Commission concluded that the basic concept of the original convention, the horizontal division of member States' airspace was no longer justifiable in operational, technical, or financial terms. The Permanent Commission also took into account the desirability of extending the present membership to include other European States, of simplifying the extremely complex communal finance system, of balancing the competing demands of all airspaces users, civil and military, the economic importance of air traffic services, and the need for a flexible response to new demands and technical developments.Accordingly, the amended convention will extend Eurocontrol's responsibilities for the co-ordination of air traffic control planning to cover the whole airspace, with co-ordinated research and development, and common training policies. Eurocontrol will in future play a key role in developing and operating a European system of flow management. The complex communal financing of operational facilities will be progressively wound up. Air traffic control in the upper airspace will become the formal responsibility of member States, though they will be able, singly or jointly, to entrust the task to Eurocontrol. In practice this change is one of form only since most upper airspace facilities have always been operated by national Administrations.I am satisfied that under the amended convention the combined efforts of member States, exerted through Eurocontrol, will provide the best guarantee that safety and efficiency will remain the prime objectives of the European air traffic control system.

Airport Charges

asked the Secretary of State for Trade if, further to his reply of 8 December to the hon. Member for Stretford, he will now provide the information requested in respect of landing, navigation and security charges alone.

The information requested by my hon. Friend relating to airports abroad is not collected by this Department, nor is it a function of the Department to collect such information. As I suggested in my reply to my hon. Friend's question on Monday 8 December—[Vol. 995, c. 455–6]—I refer him to the material provided on pages 68 and 69 of the annual report and accounts of the British Airports Authority, a copy of which is available in the Library of the House.

Coal Imports

asked the Secretary of State for Trade how much coal was imported in the year ended 30 September, by country of origin; and what was the average price per tonne of coal imported from each country.

Glue Sniffing

asked the Secretary of State for Trade what is the Government's attitude towards the substantial increase in the number of cases of glue sniffing amongst students in schools; and whether he plans to introduce legislation on this matter.

I am not aware of a substantial increase in the number of cases of glue sniffing amongst students in schools. However, as I stated in my reply of 2 December to my hon. Friend the Member for Southend, East (Mr. Taylor), my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Social Services is considering how to improve the information available on the incidence of sniffing.I do not know what legislation the hon. Member has in mind, but, for the reasons given in my reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Southend, East, I do not consider that it would be justifiable or practicable to restrict the sale of glue to young persons.

Employment

Unemployed Persons' (Travel Arrangements)

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what were the major changes made in July 1978, January 1979 and July 1979 in his Department's scheme which enabled unemployed people to be able to travel to obtain work.

The Manpower Services Commission operates two schemes which are designed to encourage people who are unemployed, or under threat of redundancy, to look for and to move to employment away from home. These are the job search scheme and the employment transfer scheme. Following criticism in 1976 from the Public Accounts Committee, the MSC reviewed its schemes to make them more cost effective. As a result of this review the following major changes were made to these schemes during the months in question:

17 July 1978
New rules were introduced about the timing of applications to exclude from the schemes those workers who had clearly not been encouraged by the availability of assistance to take up work away from home. Applications for assistance, under the JSS, must now be made before the applicant travels to the new area; and applications for assistance, under the ETS, must now be made before the applicant starts work and before dependants and household effects are moved to the new area. Before 17 July 1978, applications for assistance under both schemes could be made up to six months after the event. In addition, to reduce the opportunity for abuse of the ETS, arrangements were made to pay the higher rate of transfer grant for applicants from the assisted areas, in quarterly stages over a year and not, as previously, in a lump sum.
1 January 1979
A new rule was introduced that people, who have successfully completed a course of higher education, within six months of the date on which they attend an interview for employment, or start work, will not be eligible for assistance under the JSS and the ETS. (The relevant date was later amended to the date of offer of employment.) This condition does not apply to mature students aged 26 or over when they started their course.
This rule was introduced as the MSC considers that students of higher education seeking their first career appointments accept the need to be mobile, and the additional incentive of the ETS is therefore unnecessary. Also the rates of the various grants and allowances available under both schemes were increased and the pay limit for the new or prospective employment was raised.
1 July 1979
From this date all applicants for assistance from the JSS and ETS must satisfy the rule that there are no local unemployed people, registered in the new area, who are suitable for the job which the applicant is seeking or taking up. Also all applicants must have no reasonable prospects of employment in their home areas. These two conditions which had previously applied only to those whose moves originated in the non-assisted areas, are designed to ensure that local unemployed people will not be deprived of employment opportunities, and that the move is necessary for the applicant to find work.
Changes were made to the rules about payment of the higher rate of transfer grant and disturbance allowance previously payable to eligible applicants who lived in the assisted areas. The higher rate of transfer grant is now restricted, with limited exceptions, to those who move out of a special development area or development area into a place of lower assisted status. Disturbance allowance is now paid to applicants from an SDA who move into a place of lower assisted status.
A new eligibility condition was also introduced that applicants for assistance under ETS must intend to resettle permanently in the new area.

asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the criteria which determine eligibility for financial assistance from his Department for an unemployed person obtaining work in another area; and what changes in these criteria he has introduced since may 1979.

The Manpower Services Commission provides financial assistance under the employment transfer scheme for people who move home to take up employment in another area. I am informed by the MSC that the main eligibility conditions for this assistance are as follows:

  • 1. The applicant must be unemployed or under threat of redundancy.
  • 2. The applicant must not have reasonable prospects of employment in the home area.
  • 3. The applicant must have resided in Great Britain for three months before the transfer.
  • 4. The applicant must not have successfully completed a course of higher education within six months of obtaining the new job. (This condition does not apply to mature students).
  • 5. The application must be made before the applicant starts work in the new area and before household effects and dependants, if any, are moved to the new area.
  • 6. The applicant must intend to resettle permanently in the new area and the new job must offer satisfactory prospects of permanent resettlement.
  • 7. The applicant's family partner must not already have been offered employment in the new area or have other commitments there.
  • 8. There are no local unemployed people registered in the new area who are suitable for the job which the applicant is taking.
  • 9. The new employment is not seasonal.
  • 10. The new employment is full time, under a contract of service and is in Great Britain.
  • 11. The wage or salary of the new employment is not more than the pay limit (currently £6,264 per annum).
  • 12. The new employment is beyond normal daily travelling distance of the applicant's home.
  • Major changes to eligibility conditions were made on 1 July 1979, and I have given details in my previous reply to the hon. Member's question on this subject. Other significant changes to the ETS criteria, which have taken place since May 1979 have been:

    The increase in the pay limit on 1 March 1980, and in the rates of grants and allowances on 1 April 1980. Details were given to the House on 11 and 31 March.
    On 4 August 1980 special measures were introduced to assist those affected by British Steel closures in Consett, Llanwern, Port Talbot and Scunthorpe. Details were given to the House on 14 July.
    Additionally there have been many minor changes designed to clarify the eligiblity conditions and to meet changing circumstances.

    Employment Transfer Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many people received assistance from his Department under the employment transfer scheme for each quarter from 30 June 1978 to 30 September 1980.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the information requested is as follows:

    Quarter ended and Number of eligible applicants who started work during the quarter

    30 September 19786,598
    31 December 19786,353
    31 March 19794,375
    30 June 19793,948
    30 September 19792,485
    31 December 19791,716
    31 March 19801,636
    30 June 19801,545
    30 September 19801,556
    The reduction in numbers receiving assistance is the result of the changes to the scheme detailed in my earlier reply.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what has been the reductions, in real terms since May 1978 in money spent by his Department on enabling people to travel to find work.

    The precise information requested is not available. However, I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the expenditure on all transfer schemes since the year ending 31 March 1978 is as follows:

    Year ending 31 MarchActual expenditure1980 survey prices
    1978£11·9m£14m
    1979£10·2m£10·8m
    1980£7·2m£7·2m
    1981 (estimated)£4·5m£3·6m

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what instructions have been issued by his Department to local employment offices and jobcentres since May 1979 regarding the application of the employment transfer scheme.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the rules of the employment transfer scheme are kept under review and when changes are made instructions are sent to employment offices and jobcentres. Nearly all of the changes made since May 1979 have been of minor significance but designed to clarify the eligibility conditions and to meet changing circumstances.

    Fort William Underwater Training Centre

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment, in view of the Public Account Committee's view that the Shenley Trust contract for the establishment and management of the Fort William underwater training centre secured an extremely high rate of profit, if he will ensure that any other such contract concerning the centre does not involve the payment of excessive compensation.

    The Manpower Services Commission is engaged in discussions with the offshore industry with a view to securing a transfer to the industry of financial and management responsibility for the centre. I am following these discussions and their implications for existing contracts closely. If the discussions are successful the terms of any future contracts will be for the parties involved to determine.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what compensation has been or is to be paid, and to whom, for the ending of existing contracts, concerning the management of the Fort William underwater training centre.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the current contract for the management of the underwater training centre was awarded by the commission to Shenley Trust Services Ltd. with effect from 1 January 1980. This contract provides four months' notice in order to terminate the agreement. As notice has not been given and the contract has not been terminated, no compensation has been paid.Compensation would only arise if the commission chose to make payment of fees and attributable costs in lieu of notice, as an alternative to the contractor continuing to manage the centre during the notice period. The terminal payment would depend partly upon the timing of any notification to pay compensation in lieu of notice and partly upon the outcome of discussions on the extent of attributable costs which the project manager would incur during the notice period.

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment when he expects to finalise the new contract for the operating of the Fort William underwater training centre; on what terms and with whom; and if he will make a statement.

    I am following closely the complicated negotiations which the Manpower Services Commission is having with representatives of the offshore industries in order to try to develop new management and funding arrangements for the centre. I intend to make a statement on the outcome of these negotiations as soon as possible.

    Computer-Assisted Placing

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what are the future plans of his Department for the use of the computer-assisted placing system in the area of London.

    I am informed by the Manpower Services Commission that the future of the system for computer assisted placing in the area of London is under review in the context of the commission's corporate plan, which will be finalised in the near future.

    Work Experience Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment if he will detail the arrangement made between the Trades Union Congress and the Manpower Services Commission whereby all those participating in the work experience programme are receiving a letter from the Manpower Services Commission, together with a Trades Union Congress booklet "All You Should Know About Trade Unions"; and if he will make a statement.

    The pamphlet entailed "Going to Work" is given to young people by the Manpower Services Commission when they join the youth opportunities programme. It was prepared by the TUC at the request of the MSC to give young people information about the trade union movement, as part of their introduction to the world of work. The young people are not being urged to join specific unions or to do so immediately; the leaflet is intended to convey an appreciaton of the place of trade unions in working life.

    Southampton (Youth Employment)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what steps he is proposing to take to alleviate the heavy work load put on the youth employment services in Southampton; and how many staff are involved now and how many are envisaged in 1980–81.

    Footwear Industry (Redundancies)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how many redundancies there have been in the United Kingdom footwear industry in each month since June up to the latest date for which a figure or an estimate is available.

    Employee Consultation

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment what is the policy of the Government on, proposals by the European Commission for a directive on procedures for informing and consulting employees of undertakings with complex structures, in particular transnational undertakings, as described in document COM(80)423 final.

    European Community (Manufactured Goods)

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment (1) if he has made any estimate of the additional jobs which would have been provided in the United Kingdom if our exports of manufactured goods to the EEC in 1977, 1978 and 1979 had been equal to United Kingdom imports of manufactured goods from the EEC during this three year period;(2) if he has made any estimate of the additional jobs which were provided in the United Kingdom as a consequence of the very substantial trade surplus in manufactured goods which the nation has enjoyed with the trading world, excluding the EEC, in the three year period from 1977.

    Pay And Employment Costs

    asked the Secretary of State for Employment how the average hourly rate of pay and employment cost compares in the engineering industry in the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Italy, the United States of America and Japan, both in sterling terms and percentage terms now and in November 1979 at exchange rates current at each time of calculation.

    [pursuant to his reply, 4 December 1980, c. 295]: The following table includes the latest available information on total labour costs and hourly earnings for four engineering industries in the four European Community countries listed.

    Hourly Labour Costs and Gross Hourly Earnings (£ sterling)

    1

    Mechanical Engineering

    Electrical Engineering

    United Kingdom

    Germay (FR)

    France

    Italy

    United Kingdom

    Germay (FR)

    France

    Italy

    Hourly labour costs

    2

    1978:
    (a) £ sterling2·415·914·473·6932·185·764·403·643
    (b Index United
    Kingdom=10010024518516841002642021764

    Gross hourly earnings

    5

    April 1978:
    (a) £ sterling1·753·262·121·711·572·871·911·68
    (b) Index United
    Kingdom=10010018712198100182121107
    October 1979:
    ((a)) £sterling2·133·422·311·7661·923·012·161·716
    (b) Index United
    Kingdom=100100161109897100157112977

    Instrument Engineering

    Building and Civil Engineering

    United Kingdom

    Germay (FR)

    France

    Italy

    United Kingdom

    Germay (FR)

    France

    Italy

    Hourly labour costs

    2

    1978:
    (a) £ sterling2·205·194·093.4332·225·193·623·363
    (b) Index United
    Kingdom=10010023618616941002341631544

    Gross hourly earnings

    5

    April 1978:
    (a) £ sterling1·532·851·921·621·633·111·941·81
    (b) Index United
    Kingdom=100100186125106100191119111
    October 1979:
    (a) £ sterling1·872·942·101·6662·013·492·181·876
    (b) Index United
    Kingdom=1001001571139671001731081037
    Notes:

    1Converted at average market exchange rates for the corresponding periods.

    2Total labour costs for manual and non-manual workers, including employers' national insurance and other social contributions, bonuses, payment for days not worked, benefits in kind, training costs, and other expenses of a social nature.

    3Figures relate to 1977.

    4Comparison based on figures for United Kingdom and Italy in 1977.

    5Manual workers only.

    6Figures relates to April 1979.

    7Comparison based on figures for United Kingdom and Italy in April 1979.

    Source: Eurostat—"Wages and Income" (1–1980 and 4–1980).

    Comparable figures are not available for Japan; nor are comparable figures readily available on labour costs in

    Mechanical Engineering

    Electrical Engineering

    Instrument Engineering

    October 1979:
    £ sterling3·473·022·94
    Index United Kingdom=100163157157

    Source: Monthly Labour Review.

    Caution is required in interpreting these comparisons particularly those of hourly earnings owing to differences between countries in statistical definitions and methods of compilation. The data on labour costs are derived from the labour costs survey which is carried out on a similar basis in all European Community coutries.

    the United States of America. However, some data for the United States of America are available on gross hourly earnings of production workers, as follows:

    National Finance

    National Insurance Surcharge

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what would be the full year cost of abolishing the employer's national insurance surcharge for all employees under the age of 21 years.

    On the basis of the economic assumptions published in Cmnd. 8091, the full year cost of abolishing the employer's national insurance surcharge for all employees in the United Kingdom under the age of 21 years would be in the order of £250 million.

    State Corporations (Borrowing)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he is prepared to introduce a code of practice on borrowing limits to enable State corporations to obtain greater flexibility in raising funds for their investment programmes through city institutions.

    Statutory borrowing limits and external financing limits would continue to apply to nationalised industries whatever the source of funds.

    Capital Allowances

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is the value of capital allowances made to companies in development areas in each region of England, Scotland and Wales since 1970.

    Value Added Tax

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if the provision of transport by a local authority to an individual disabled person or a voluntary organisation of disabled people is regarded as a business activity and thus liable for value added tax on top of any charges levied; and if he will make a statement.

    I will let the right hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    Building Societies

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) what is the amount of building society holdings in the current year for which figures are available compared with the previous 12 months;(2) how many registered building societies there are in the United Kingdom; and how many of them have in excess of 8 per cent. of their total funds going into special advances;(3) what is the average building society advance in the United Kingdom.

    £ Sterling

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will provide details of the comparative real value of the £ sterling, taking the £ sterling as 100 in 1960; and what is the value of the £ sterling up to the latest date in 1980 for which the present real value can be calculated.

    Taking the internal purchasing power of the £ sterling as 100 in 1960, its value in October 1980, the latest period for which information is available, was 1 per cent. Comparative values for other periods can be derived from figures given in a press notice issued by the Central Statistical Office entitled "Internal purchasing power of the pound", a copy of which is held in the House of Commons Library.

    Widows (Pension)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will abolish the present legislation on the taxing of a widow's pension when the widow takes up gainful employment and has the gross value of the widow's pension added to her earned income for taxation purposes;(2) what income tax payments were collected in the years 1977, 1978 and 1979 from persons in receipt of widow's pensions who took up paid employment; and what proportion of this tax was attributable to the widow's pension benefit.

    Home Insulation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer (1) if he will consider giving grant aid or tax allowances for the installation of double glazing and other insulation work;(2) if he will confirm that he will continue to apply zero rating value added tax on professionally installed double glazing.

    I shall let the right hon. Member have a reply as soon as possible.

    Consumer Items (Prices)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will set out at 1980 prices for 1980 and each of the preceding 20 years, the price of 20 cigarettes, a bottle of whisky, a pint of beer, a pint of milk and a bottle of wine.

    Interest Rates

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will make a statement on the likely trend of interest rates in the United Kingdom in the early part of 1981.

    Treasury Income And Expenditure

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what is his latest estimate of the gap between Treasury income and expenditure in the current financial year.

    European Community Budget

    asked the Chancellor of the Excheqer what estimate he has made of when the resources of the EEC will be inadequate to meet its obligations on the basis of its current commitments and budget.

    Petroleum Revenue Tax (Offset Sales)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what steps his Department has taken to ensure that transactions on sale of equipment and services between partners in an offshore licence, which can be set against petroleum revenue tax, occur at true market value.

    [pursuant to his reply, 10 December 1980, c. 641]: Where a transaction is not at arm's length or is between persons connected for the purposes of section 533 of the Taxes Act, schedule 4, paragraph 2 to the Oil Taxation Act 1975, as amended by section 20, Finance (No. 2) Act 1979, has the broad effect of limiting PRT relief for expenditure incurred on equipment to the cost to the seller. If the hon. Member has evidence that this rule is not working adequately perhaps he will let me know.

    Civil Servants (Identification)

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer whether he will arrange for all civil servants of his Department who come in direct contact with the public to be identifiable by wearing a conspicuous name tag.

    [pursuant to his reply, 11 December 1980 c. 802]: In the Treasury, contact is usually by appointment with a named member of staff so name tags are unnecessary.Inland Revenue and Customs and Excise staff do not wear name tags, but are encouraged to give their names when specifically asked to do so by members of the public.As regards the Department for National Savings there are only two areas (Marketing and Information and the Premium Savings Bond Office) where staff regularly meet the public; and in both cases it is the general practice for staff to wear name badges.

    American Billion

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer when the American billion was first used in official documents and statistics.

    [pursuant to his reply, 11 December 1980, c. 803]: I regret that the information is not available without incurring inordinate cost.

    "Why Work?" Problem

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer what studies have been made by the Treasury relating to the "why work problem"; and if he will publish the findings of any such studies.

    [pursuant to his reply, 12 December 1980, c. 822]: A contract has been placed with Professor A. B. Atkinson at the London School of Economics to use data from the family expenditure survey to study "taxation, unemployment and incentives". This work will be published in due course.The Green Paper on the taxation of husband and wife, which was published on 3 December 1980, identifies the impact of work incentives as one of the factors to be taken into account in considering possible changes to the present income tax treatment of husband and wife.Officials advise Ministers on the impact of policies on incentives, but such advice is confidential, following normal practice.

    Inflation

    asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer if he will give figures at constant prices for each of the last 10 years for the rate of inflation in the United Kingdom, France, West Germany and Italy.

    [pursuant to his reply, 12 December 1980, c. 823]: The rate of inflation from 1971 onwards, as measured by the consumer price index, for each of the countries specified is shown in the following table:

    Consumer price index*—all goods and services
    Percentages
    Change on year earlierUnited KingdomFranceWest GermanyItaly
    Annual averages:
    19719·45·35·34·8
    19727·16·25·55·7
    19739·27·46·910·8
    197416·113·77·019·1
    197524·211·76·017·0
    197616·59·64·516·8
    197715·89·43·718·4
    19788·39·12·712·1
    197913·410·74·114·8
    Quarterly averages:1980
    Q1–Q318·913·55·621·3
    Q316·413·65·421·5
    Source: OECD Main Economic Indicators.*Equivalent to the United Kingdom General index of retail prices—all items.An alternative measure of inflation is provided by the implied deflator derived from the current and constant market price estimates of gross domestic product. This is a measure of domestically generated inflation over the whole economy, including the effects of indirect taxes. Annual changes in the index numbers for this measure up to 1978 for the four countries are given in "National Accounts ESA—Aggregates 1960–78" page 156, published by the Statistical Office of the European Communities. Corresponding changes between 1978 and 1979 are as follows:
    Change in implied price deflator of gross domestic product at market prices between 1978 and 1979
    Percentages
    United Kingdom+14·6
    France+10·4
    West Germany+3·9
    Italy+15·1

    Social Services

    Residential Care Order

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the local authority associations' estimate that the proposed residential care order is likely to cost £5 million; what is his estimate of the likely cost; and on what this estimate is based.

    In producing estimates, both the local authorities and I have had to make judgments about such matters as the number of youngsters to whom the order might be applied, the extent to which courts will use it and the cost of providing care. The local authorities' estimate of £5 million as the likely additional cost to them is probably not far off the mark.

    Prescription Form

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made on the triple prescription form first proposed to his Department in 1973; and whether he will make a statement.

    I have arranged to discuss this matter with representatives of the medical and pharmaceutical professions in the new year.

    Prescription Charges

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will consider issuing guidance to doctors and pharmacists on how to deal with particular patients who cannot afford the total prescribed medication.

    I do not consider it appropriate for me to intervene on the clinical aspects of prescribing and dispensing of medicines for individual patients; these are professional matters best left to the judgments of those directly involved. I have no evidence that difficulties of the kind suggested by the hon. Member are such as to warrant further action on my part.The Government have made a special point of raising the threshold for low income exemption from charges on each occasion the charge has been raised. This has extended the entitlement to exemption from prescription charges to more people. The full range of exemptions means that at present over 63 per cent. of all prescription items are dispensed free of charge by virtue of those exemptions. The prepayment certificate ("season ticket") arrangements, which help people with heavy prescription needs who are not automatically exempt from charges, account for a further 5·5 per cent. of all prescription items.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what reply he has sent to the request by the Society of Family Practitioner Committees to have a review of medical exemptions from prescription charges in the light of mounting anomalies.

    I assume that the hon. Member is referring to the resolution which was passed at the sixth annual meeting of the Society of Family Practitioner Committees in the following terms—

    "That this Conference requests the Secretary of State to consider the re-appraisal of exemptions from prescription charges".
    We have given consideration to the prescription charge exemption arrangements on a number of occasions. We concluded the the current wide-ranging exemption arrangements were adequate to meet most cases of need. One improvement has, however, been made; on each occasion when the prescription charge has been increased we have raised the qualifying level for low-income exemption, thus extending this form of exemption to more people.The prepayment certificate—season ticket—arrangements enable those people not entitled to exemption to limit their expenditure on medicines.A response has gone to the Society of Family Practitioner Committees on these lines.

    Mentally Handicapped Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Servies if he will extend the review of mental handicap policy to cover education, housing and employment for mentally handicapped people.

    The review has now been completed and a copy of the report on it—"Mental Handicap: Progress, Problems and Priorities"—has been placed in the House of Commons Library.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services when stage 2 of the review of service for the mentally handicapped is to begin.

    Follow-up action on the review will necessarily be limited in view of the current pressure on resources. I have decided therefore to concentrate further action on a few key areas: getting children out of large mental handicap hospitals; day care services for the most severely handicapped; and services for those with additional special needs e.g. the deaf, blind and elderly. In addition, I shall be canvassing views on a number of ideas for easing the transfer of resources from the NHSto personal social services in order to encourage the transfer to personal social services care of people who do not need to be in a hospital.I have placed a copy of my speech of 10 December to the National Society for Mentally Handicapped Children and Adults in the Library of the House.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a full statement of his policy on the National Development Group for Mentally Handicapped paper "Service for Mentally Handicapped People: Unfinished Business".

    I refer the hon. Member to my right hon. Friend's reply to the right hon. Member for Manchester, Wythenshawe (Mr. Morris) on 23 July.—[Vol. 989 c.285.]

    Quangos

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many chairmen and members of non-departmental bodies for which he is responsible, including area and regional health authorities, have been replaced since 3 May 1979.

    Not all the information requested is readily available. My right hon. Friend the Prime Minister gave such information as was available on non-departmental public bodies in her reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Carlton (Mr. Holland) on 3 December.—[Vol. 995, c. 223–8.] For area and regional health authorities, the information held centrally is as follows:

    Members
    Regional Health Authority Chairmen replaced since May 1979NIL
    Regional Health Authority Members replaced since May 197957
    Area Health Authority Chairmen replaced since May 197921
    Information on area health authority members is not held centrally and could be obtained only at disproportionate cost.

    Income During Sickness

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many of the replies to the Green Paper "Income During Initial Sickness: A New Strategy" (Cmnd. 7864) (a) accepted the principle of making sick pay liable to income tax and (b) approved the proposal to transfer sick pay costs to employers.

    The great majority of the 1,000 or so organisations and individuals who have made representations on the Green Paper have supported the objective of bringing into tax income received during sickness. Concern expressed was not so much over the proposal that statutory responsibility for such payments should be transferred from the State to employers, as about the compensation offered to employers to cover the extra costs they would face in discharging this duty.

    Cigarettes And Tobacco Advertising

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if, in support of the Government's policy of reducing smoking, he will seek to require all advertisements for cigarettes and tobacco to contain details of the amount of tax paid by the purchaser on each item.

    Local Authority Playgroups

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many local authority playgroups have been closed since May 1979;(2) how many local authority pre-school playgroups have been closed since May 1979.

    Day Centres

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services (1) how many local authority day centres for the physically handicapped have been closed since May 1979;(2) how many local authority day centres for multipurpose employment have been closed since May 1979.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many local authority day centres for the elderly have been closed since May 1979.

    Figures for closures of day centres are not maintained separately. The estimated numbers of local authority day centres in England at 31 March 1979 and 31 March 1980 are as follows:

    Designated19791980
    Physicall Handicapped192178
    Elderly393408
    Mentally Ill128134
    Mixed205229
    Total918949
    The changes in these figures arise from opening of new centres, redesignations between client groups and closures.

    Mentally Handicapped Persons (Residential Centres)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many local authority residential centres for the care of the mentally handicapped have been closed since May 1979.

    The relevant statistical returns are collected annually for years ending 31 March, and the Department is still analysing the returns for the year ending 31 March 1980. Examination of returns from 70 per cent. of local authorities suggests that the number of mentally handicapped children in local authority homes increased by 17 per cent. over the year, and that for adults by 8 per cent.More detailed information on local authority provision will be contained in the DHSS publication, "Homes and Hostels for the Mentally Ill and Mentally Handicapped at 31 March 1980", which will be placed in the House of Commons Library in January.

    Nurses

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many hospital beds in England and Wales are estimated to be out of use due in part to lack of nurses; and what was the comparable estimate 12 months ago.

    Doctors (Pay)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what guidance he is giving to the review body on doctors' pay, in view of the 6 per cent. cash limit imposed on workers in the National Health Service.

    The cash limits for the National Health Service for 1981–82 have not yet been announced. It has not been the practice to publish the Government's evidence to the Doctors' and Dentists' Review Body.

    Out-Patients (Appointments And Admissions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how often waiting lists for both hospital out-patient appointments and admissions are reviewed in order to maintain the accuracy of such information; and whether any recent changes have occurred in the way such lists are compiled.

    The design and operation of such procedures are matters for individual health authorities and hospitals, and the Department does not receive routine reports on these activities. I would expect all authorities to encourage locally agreed arrangements designed to achieve the minimum possible waiting times.

    Blind Persons

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what it would cost in a full year to give all registered blind persons a special blind allowance at the same rates as the non-contributory invalidity benefit.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what it would cost in a full year to extend the present mobility allowance to all registered blind persons with the same rules as for the current recipients of the mobility allowance.

    Assuming that this extended allowance would be disregarded in the assessment of supplementary benefit, as mobility allowance is, the cost would be nearly £100 million a year.

    Retirement Pensions (Abatement)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what would be the cost of abolishing the rules whereby the pensions of retirement pensioners who are in hospital abate after their first eight weeks in hospital at varying rates for a full financial year.

    If the rules were abolished, the additional expenditure on retirement pensions would be about £100 million a year.

    Tobacco Industry (Agreement)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what are his objectives for the agreement with the tobacco industry which may succeed the agreement announced on 21 November last and which is due to expire on 31 July 1982.

    I refer the right hon. Gentleman to the statement made by my right hon. Friend on 21 November.—[Vol. 994, c. 177–8.]

    Occupational Vitiligo

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what progress has been made towards the implementation of the decision announced on 11 March to prescribe occupational vitiligo under the industrial injuries scheme.

    I am pleased to announce that regulations were laid on 17 October 1980, to take effect from today to prescribe occupational vitiligo as an industrial disease for the purposes of industrial injuries benefits.

    Day Nurseries

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many local authority day nurseries have been closed since May 1979.

    Complete figures for the year ended 31 March 1980 are not yet available. Returns received from 97 of the 108 authorities in England record the closure of nine local authority day nurseries and the opening of 19 during the year.

    National Health Service Equipment

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what steps he is taking to ensure that technical and other equipment purchased for the National Health Service is of British manufacture.

    In August this year I wrote to chairmen of regional health authorities to stress the importance of ensuring that British firms are given every opportunity to compete in selling their equipment to the NHS. The Health Service Supply Council fully endorses this view. My hon. Friend and I have since discussed the matter directly with chairmen and they, too, are clearly sympathetic with these aims.

    School Concern Project (Salford)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will make a statement on the outcome of the school concern project in Salford which has been funded by his Department; and if he has any plans for asking the project team to disseminate information about the success of the project and to share its experience with other authorities.

    The project is not yet complete but, from reports received, it seems to have been most useful, particularly in fostering amongst schoolchildren an understanding of disability. I understand there has been continuing media interest in the project and that Community Service Volunteers has produced teaching kits which will be available in the new year to other authorities wishing to mount similar projects.

    Telephone Installations (London)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what consultations are taking place between the Post Office and his Department regarding the heavy delays in the installation of telephones under the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act in the Greater London area; and if he will make a statement.

    None. Any such delays would be a matter for discussion between the Post Office and the local authority concerned.

    Widows (Pensions)

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will amend the overlapping benefits rule which would enable widows who pay the full national insurance contributions to receive the same benefit as other working women.

    No. A widow paying the full national insurance contributions, who falls sick or becomes unemployed, receives an amount of benefit equivalent to the amount of the short-term benefit for which she has qualified by the payment of contributions or the basic amount of her widow's benefit, whichever is the higher, plus her additional component of widow's benefit. If there are children of her marriage, she also qualifies for children's dependency additions at the higher long-term rate. If she suffers long-term incapacity, she receives, within an overall ceiling equal to the current amount of a maximum rate retirement pension, any invalidity benefit on her own insurance, her widow's benefit, and the additional components payable with either benefit. Further preferential treatment of widows would be difficult to justify. A fully insured working widow can never receive less benefit under the overlapping benefits rule, and usually will receive more benefit, than other working women.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will adjust the sliding scale of age-related widows' pension paid to widowed women between the ages of 40 and 50 years so that the full widow's pension level, when the widow reaches the age of 50 years, is payable.

    I refer my hon. Friend to my reply to the hon. Member for Normanton (Mr. Roberts) on 2 December—[Vol. 995. c. 176.]

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what loss will be suffered by working women who are at present in receipt of a widow's pension due to the proposed national insurance contributions when the widow's pension is assumed as earned income when grossed up with the payment received for the gainful employment.

    Women who pay the standard rate national insurance contribution, whether or not in receipt of a widow's pension, would be required to pay a further 1 per cent. (7·75 per cent. instead of 6·75 per cent.) of earnings up to £200 per week if their earnings reached £27 per week.Women who have opted to pay the reduced rate would be required to pay a further 0·75 per cent. (2·75 per cent instead of 2·0 per cent) of earnings up to £200 per week if their earnings reached £27 per week.Widow's pension is not treated as earnings for contributions purposes. The proposed new rates take effect from 6 April 1981.

    Chronically Sick And Disabled Persons Act

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services on what date the last report required by the provisions of section 22 of the Chronically Sick and Disabled Persons Act was laid before Parliament; and when the next such report will be laid.

    The report for 1978 was laid on 25 July 1979. That for 1979 will be laid later this week. I regret the delay.

    Invalidity Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he or any person in his Department has given any new instruction or advice regarding the reassessment as to their capacity for work of people on invalidity benefit; if he will publish any new instruction or advice that has been issued; and if he will make a statement.

    I shall let the right hon. Gentleman have a reply as soon as possible.

    Child Benefit

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many families he estimates would not have the right to opt for weekly child benefit payments under the proposals contained in Cmnd. 8106.

    Approximately 6 million out of a total of 7¼ million people receiving child benefit.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services if he will provide the same information about frequency of child benefits contained in his answer of 5 December, Official Report, c. 402–3, expressed as proportions of child benefit encashment.

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services what proportion of families who will not be given the right to opt for weekly child benefit payments under the proposals contained in Cmnd. 8106 cash their child benefit (a) every week, (b) every two weeks, (c) every three weeks and (d) every four weeks or more.

    Excluding families with four or more children, those receiving child benefit (increase), family income supplement and supplementary benefit, the estimated proportions in June 1980 were (a) 37 per cent., (b) 21 per cent., (c) 10 per cent. and (d) 32 per cent.

    Special Hospital Patients

    asked the Secretary of State for Social Services how many young people under the age of 21 years who (a) have been convicted of an offence involving violence and (b) have not been convicted of such an offence, are at present on one of the four special hospitals.

    [pursuant to his reply, 1 December 1980, c. 75]: All patients detained in special hospitals were considered at the time of admission to require treatment for their mental disorder in conditions of special security because of their dangerous, violent or criminal propensities. Of the 87 patients under the age of 21 who were detained in special hospitals as at 28 November 1980, 24 had not been convicted of an offence and were detained under the provisions of part IV of the Mental Health Act 1959, one had been found unfit to plead and was detained under section 5 of the Criminal Procedure (Insanity) Act 1964. The remainder were convicted of offences as follows:—

    Nature of offence*Number of Patients
    Violence against the person32
    sexual offences9
    Criminal damage (arson)13
    Other indictable offences8
    (1) Offences classified as in Criminal Statistics England and Wales 1979.

    Civil Service

    Toilet Paper

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will give the reasons why it took some years for discussions to have ensued on the question of the issue of twin-ply tissues for the use of civil servants; in what year discussions began with whom; and whether the savings of between £350,000 and £600,000 per annum for the additional costs for twin-ply as against the normal paper was the cause.

    I understand that this subject has been raised with officials by the Council of Civil Service Unions at intervals over a number of years and that on each occasion it has beer, rejected on grounds of cost.

    Peers (Appointments)

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will give at the latest or most convenient stated date the names of peers who hold any appointments sponsored or coming under the control of his Department and the salary or expenses paid or claimed; and how many meetings or conferences, committees or non-departmental public bodies held during the past 12 months for which he is responsible were attended by them.

    The names of the peers of the realm who hold appointments on bodies with which my Department is concerned are given below. All give their services without remuneration, although expenses may be claimed at the appropriate Civil Service rate. Attendance at meetings is a matter for the bodies concerned and is not monitored centrally.

    Advisory Committee on Business Appointments

    • The right hon. Lord Diamond (Chairman)
    • The right hon. Lord Campbell of Croy
    • Field Marshal Lord Carver
    • The right hon. Lord Trend

    Armed Forces Pay Review Body

    • The Baroness Sharples

    Civil Service Pay Research Unit Board

    • The right hon. Lord Shepherd (Chairman)

    Government Hospitality Fund Committee for the Purchase of Wines

    • The Lord Gladwyn

    Political Honours Scrutiny Committee

    • The right hon. Lord Shackleton (Chairman)
    • The right hon. Lord Can of Hadley
    • The right hon. Lord Franks

    Security' Commission

    • The right hon. Lord Diplock (Chairman)
    • The right hon. Lord Bridge
    • The Lord Greenhill of Harrow

    Top Salaries Review Body

    • The right hon. Lord Boyle of Handsworth (Chairman)
    • The Lord Hirshfield
    • The Lord Plowden
    • The Baroness Seear

    Central Office Of Information

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what are the administrative costs of the Central Office of Information, and, in particular, what are the costs of the domestic operation, known as the "COI run", which involves sending all departmental handouts to every newspaper every day.

    The provision for the salaries and general administrative expenses of the Central Office of Information in the current financial year 1980–81 is £11,752,900. The estimated gross costs for 1980 of the news distribution service, which delivers press material from Government Departments and other official bodies on five days a week either on general press circulation or to specialist correspondents as required, is £186,700.

    Manpower

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service whether he will set out in tabular form for each Government Department the number of civil servants in post on (a) 1 December 1978, (b) 1 December 1979 and (c) 1 December 1980.

    Information in this form is collected quarterly on 1 January, 1 April, 1 July and 1 October and published in the Summary Quarterly Staff Return, copies of which are available in the Library. I am sending a summary to my hon. Friend.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what is the current number of civil servants; what was the total in May 1979; and what is his latest estimate of the likely number of civil servants at the end of 1981.

    Figures for May 1979 are not held centrally. At 1 April 1979, the nearest date for which this information is available, there were 732,300 staff in post. My right hon. Friend, the Prime Minister announced on 13 May the Government's intention to reduce the size of the Civil Service to about 630,000 by April 1984. In the light of changing circumstances it is not possible at this stage to make a forecast of the number of civil servants at the end of 1981.

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service what estimate he has made of the saving to public funds and expenditure of the reductions in the number of civil servants achieved since May 1979.

    Between April 1979 and October 1980, there has been a reduction of over 35,000 civil servants. The estimated savings in pay costs are about £225 million a year.

    Nuclear Shelters

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service how many civil servants will be employed in nuclear shelters in the event of a nuclear war.

    None will be employed in nuclear shelters as such. A number of Ministers, civil servants and outside experts will be deployed throughout the country in regional and sub-regional headquarters; some of these will be housed underground. It would be inappropriate for me to give numbers.

    Senior Civil Servants

    asked the Minister for the Civil Service if he will make a statement outlining the provisions relating to senior members of the Civil Service taking outside employment after their retirement; in particular whether such persons are required to seek permission to take up employment in writing; whether they are required to reveal the source of income in the new employment; and if any special rules apply to forms of employment involving the dissemination of political propaganda in areas of their former Civil Service employment.

    The provisions which relate to former senior civil servants taking outside employment are set out in the rules on the acceptance of outside business appointments by Crown servants, a copy of which is in the Library. Applications submitted in accordance with those rules are expected to be in writing. Details of the income attached to any proposed appointment are not normally required.There are no other special rules relating to former civil servants, but they are expected to obtain permission before taking part in any activity which involves the disclosure of official information or the use of their official experience

    Agriculture, Fisheries And Food

    Peers (Appointments)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food whether he will give, at the latest and most convenient stated date, the names of peers who hold any appointments sponsored by or coming under the control of his Department and the salary and or expenses paid or claimed; and how many meetings or conferences, committees or non-departmental public bodies for which he is responsible, held during the past 12 months, were attended by them.

    During the past 12 months, three appointments sponsored by me or coming under the control of my Department were held by a peer of the realm. Information about remuneration claimed and numbers of meetings attended by individuals is not readily available.

    European Community Directives

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food how many representations he has received from (a) business men, (b) trade associations, (c) trades unions, and (d) the general public against EEC policy, directives or regulations since membership.

    We receive constant representations, often conflicting ones, from all those to whom my hon. Friend refers. In many cases my Department is in day-to-day contact with trade associations and others on aspects of Community business.

    Sheepmeat Regime

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has received an assurance from the European Economic Community Commission that it will re-examine the workings of the sheepmeat regime; and if he will make a statement.

    The main provisions of the regime have brought substantial benefits to United Kingdom producers and consumers but there have been problems for exporters as a result of the clawback arrangements and we have pressed the Commission to re-examine the working of these arrangements. It has now suspended clawback on third country exports and promised to review the Community's sheep export policy early next year. The support prices under the regime will be examined in th CAP price fixing in the usual way.

    Sheep Dipping

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he has any plans to introduce compulsory sheep dipping in 1981; and if he will make a statement.

    Decisions on sheep dipping requirements in 1981 will depend on the incidence of sheep scab. Twenty-eight outbreaks have been confirmed in England this year, of which about a third occurred in the South-West, where compulsory autumn dipping applied. This represents a considerable reduction in number compared with recent years despite some outbreaks in the Midlands.

    Clearance Grants

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the acreage of previously unploughed hill and moorland for which clearance grants have been sought in each of the last five years; and what is the acreage for which such grants were refused after taking into account wildlife interests.

    Fishing Vessel "Sarah Jane"

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if, when he next goes to Brussels to meet his counterparts to discuss fishing, he will raise with them the case of the Brixham trawler "Sarah Jane", which on 6 December, while fishing, accidentally caught 13 tons of herring and was forced under EEC quota regulations to dump the entire load of high protein fish back into the sea.

    No. I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave on 11 December to my hon. Friend the Member for Northampton, North (Mr. Marlow).—[Vol. 996, c. 784–5.]

    Fertilisers (Prices)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the percentage rise for all fertilisers for the year ended May 1980.

    The increase in use of inorganic fertilisers for the year ended May 1980 was:

    Per cent.
    Nitrogen7·4
    Phosphate5·8
    Potash8·6
    Total7·3
    (Source:

    Monthly Digest of Statistics—Central Statistical Office)

    From the latest available information given in the agricultural price indices the jercentage price rises for the same period for straight fertilisers were 17·6 per cent. and for compound fertilisers 23·4 per cent. The year on year increases to September 1980, the latest period known, were 11 per cent. and 16·9 per cent. respectively.

    New Zealand Butter

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will ensure, despite any attitude taken by the French, that in the absence of any further agreement the United Kingdom will continue to import New Zealand butter at the rate of 7,900 tons per month.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if imports of New Zealand butter to the United Kingdom will be permitted after 31 December if no quota for such imports is agreed before that date by the EEC.

    There is a great deal of support in the Council of Ministers for the Commission's proposals for continued access for New Zealand butter and I am hopeful that in renewed discussion this week we shall reach a satisfactory definitive settlement on this basis; if this is not possible I shall certainly seek suitable temporary arrangements to permit the continued importation of New Zealand butter on special terms while further negotiations take place.

    Soviet Union (Exports)

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food why the exports of wheat., barley, flour, malt, butter, oil, beef and wine by the EEC to the Soviet Union in the 10 months since the invasion of Afghanistan were each greater than in the previous year when the Council of Ministers decided on 15 January that such exports should be restricted to traditional levels; what was the manner in which the Council of Ministers intended its decision should be adhered to; and if, in particular, he will explain the role of the EEC Commission in the carrying out of the policy decided on 15 January.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply given to him by the Lord Privy Seal on 11 December.—[Vol.996, c. 778–79.]

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if the substantial increase in the sales of wheat and barley to the Soviet Union since the invasion of Afghanistan conforms with the decisions of the Council of Ministers on 15 January that such exports should be restricted to traditional levels and that Community supplies should not replace United States supplies.

    Quantities of wheat and barley exported to the Soviet Union in 1980 exceed the average of the previous three years, although, in the case of barley, only marginally so. However, these exports were made on the basis of licences taken out prior to the Council of Ministers' decision of 15 January. Since the imposition of the embargo, no new export refunds have been awarded in respect of sales of wheat or of barley to the Soviet Union.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has about the average price per litre charged to the Soviet Union for the 149,026,300 litres of wine exported from the EEC and on which subsidies of £9,000,000 were paid by the EEC.

    Restitutions are fixed by the Commission in the light of the market situation. The wine is sold privately on the basis of these restitutions. I have no information on the prices at which the private sales took place.

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what was the total subsidy paid by the EEC in respect of sales of food and wine to the Soviet Union in the period since the invasion of Afghanistan; what was the comparable total in the same period in respect of exports to other East European nations; and what were the comparable totals in the same period of each of the previous five years.

    I refer my hon. Friend to the reply which I gave to him on 8 December.—[Vol. 995, c. 521–22.]

    Food Consumption Statistics

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what information he has about the average weekly consumption per head of population of beef, lamb, butter and milk, respectively; and what were the comparable average weekly consumption figures five, 10, 15 and 20 years ago.

    Figures for the average weekly consumption per head of beef, lamb, butter and milk as measured by the national food survey for the latest year and for five, 10, 15 and 20 years ago are as follows:

    19601965197019751979
    Beef (ounces)8·748·087·808·328·88
    Lamb (ounces)6·635·905·254·254·35
    Butter (ounces)5·686·105·995·634·37
    Milk (pints)4·844·854·634·764·31
    Estimates of weekly consumption of beef, lamb, butter and milk in the first two quarters of 1980—the latest available—are 8·19 oz., 4·68 oz., 4·10 oz. and 4·24 pints respectively. However, figures for less than a full year can be subject to considerable fluctuation and are not directly comparable with the annual figures above.

    Common Fisheries Policy

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food if he will make a statement outlining the advantages which will accrue to the British fishing industry of securing a common fisheries policy within the EEC by comparison with the present situation.

    A settlement of the CFP would provide the United Kingdom fishing industry with a degree of certainty as to future prospects which would enable it to plan forward with much greater confidence and it would provide the means, in the form of grants for decommissioning and for modernisation of vessels, to adjust the fleet to fishing opportunities. Additionally, the more effective enforcement of catch limits and conservation rules that a settlement would make possible would benefit the industry in both the short and long term. I am convinced that a satisfactory settlement would be of great advantage to the fishing industry in the United Kingdom.

    Common Agricultural Policy

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what objectives he has in seeking to reform the common agriculture policy; and what policy changes he believes are best designed to achieve these objectives.

    For products in structural surplus, our aim is the restoration of a balance between supply and demand, particularly with a view to reducing the cost of the Community budget. This should be achieved through restraint on returns to those contributing to the surplus together with such other measures as are appropriate and negotiable.

    Intervention Stocks

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what are the current levels of food held in intervention stocks within the EEC; and if he will provide separate figures for those stocks in intervention in the United Kingdom.

    The information requested is being assembled and I shall reply to my hon. Friend as soon as possible.

    Dairy Herd

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what is the current size of the dairy herd; how many cows have been slaughtered in the United Kingdom in 1980 under the EEC scheme; and what payments have been made in connection with such slaughtering.

    The current size of the dairy herd in the United Kingdom is 3,226,000. Dairy cows brought within the provisions of the non-marketing of milk and conversion premium scheme do not have to be slaughtered. However it is a condition of the scheme that if they are disposed of, they must go either for immediate slaughter, or for export to countries outside the European Community. Between January and October this year 73,815 dairy animals were slaughtered or exported under this provision. During 1980, payments totalling £25·5 million were made up to the end of November in respect of cows covered by approved applications under the scheme.

    Fish Quotas

    asked the Minister of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food what were the quotas of fish allocated to the United Kingdom in the proposals submitted at the Berlin Conference of January 1978; and how these compare with the current offer of quotas.

    Education And Science

    Departmental Reports

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will list those reports from Royal Commissions, official departmental committees or from ad hoc advisory groups established by his Department which have been published during the past 10 years by his Department (either totally or jointly with other Departments) and which have yet to be debated in the House.

    1971

    • Report of the Working Group on Biological Manpower. Cmnd. 4737.
    • Report of the Study on the Support of Scientific Research in Universities. Cmnd. 4798.
    • Second Report of the Committee on Research and Development in Modem Languages.

    1972

    • Speech therapy services. (Chairman: Professor Quirk)
    • The education of the visually handicapped. (Chairman: Professor Vernon)
    • Children with specific reading difficulties. (Chairman: Professor Tizard)

    1973

    • School transport. Report of Working Party appointed by Secretary of State for Education and Science and Secretary of State for Wales.
    • Report on the collapse of the roof of the assembly hall of the Camden School for Girls. Prepared for the Secretary of State for Education and Science by the Building Research Establishment.
    • Report of the Committee of Inquiry into the disputes involving teachers in the area of the Teesside Local Education Authority.
    • Provincial museums and galleries. Report of Committee appointed by Paymaster General.

    1974

    • Report of the Committee of Inquiry into the pay of non-university teachers. (Chairman: The Right Hon. Lord Houghton of Sowerby).
    • Report of the Joint Advisory Committee on Agricultural Education. (National Advisory Council on Education for Industry and Commerce)
    • Vocational courses in art and design. Report of the Working Group on vocational courses in the design technical area appointed by the Secretary of State for Education and Science.
    • First report of the Advisory Board for the Research Councils.

    1975

    • A language for life. (Chairman: Sir Alan Bullock)
    • Catering in Schools. (Chairman: Mr. J. A. Hudson)
    • Committee on Inquiry into the Veterinary Profession. (Chairman: Sir Michael Swann)
    • Fifth form girls. Survey carried out by the Office of Population.
    • Censuses and Surveys on behalf of the Department of Education and Science.
    • Public libraries and cultural activities. Joint report of the Library Councils for England and Wales.
    • Automation guidelines for public libraries. Report of an investigation on the use of computers in public libraries carried out by Aslib under commission of the Department of Education and Science.
    • Nutrition in Schools. (Chairman: G. F. Cockerill).
    • Advisory Committee on the Supply and Training of Teachers. The training of teachers for further education.

    1976

    • Report of the Working Party on the Practice of Genetic Manipulation.
    • A report of the research undertaken by Local Authorities Management Services and Computer Committee of the Department of Education and Science.
    • Second Report of the Advisory Board for the Research Councils 1974–75.
    • Report of a Committee of Inquiry into the problems at Fircroft College under the chairmanship of Andrew Leggatt QC.
    • Adult literacy: Progress in 1975–76. Report to the Secretaries of State for Education and Science and for Scotland by the Adult Literacy Resource Agency's Management Committee on the first year's operation.

    1977

    • A study of school building. Report by an Inter-Departmental Group.
    • Adult literacy: Developments in 1976–77. Report to the Secretary of State for Education and Science by the Adult Literacy's Resource Agency's Management Committee on the second year's operation.
    • Prevention and health. (The Department of Health and Social Security/ Department of Education and Science/Scottish Office/Welsh Office.)
    • A new partnership for our schools. (Chairman: Tom Taylor)
    • Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs. Report of the Working Group on the prevention of drug misuse. Drug misuse among children of school age.

    1978

    • Report of the Working Group on the Management of Higher Education in the Maintained Sector. (Oakes Report)
    • Special educational needs. Report of the Committee of Enquiry into the education of handicapped children and young people. (Chairman: Mrs. H. M. Warnock)
    • First Report of the Genetic Manipulation Advisory Group.
    • School examinations: Report of Steering Committee. (Chairman: Sir James Waddell)
    • Primary education in England: A survey by HM Inspectors of Schools. Adult literacy in 1977–78; a remarkable educational advance.
    • Report of Secretary of State for Education and Science by Adult Literacy Resource Agency's Managament Cotnmittee on the third and final year's operation.

    1979

    • Third Report of the Advisory Board for the Research Councils 1976–77.
    • Second Report of the Genetic Manipulation Advisory Group.
    • Local Authority arrangements for the school curriculum. Report on the Circular 14/77 review.
    • Aspects of secondary education in England; a survey by HM Inspectors of Schools.
    • Proposals for a Certificate of Extended Education. (Chairman: Professor K. W. Keohane).
    • Management review of the Department of Education and Science. A report of the Steering Committee.
    • Educational credit transfer: Feasibility study, funded by the Department of Education and Science.

    1980

    • Boarding education. Report of a Department of Education and Science/Council of Local Education Authorities' Working Group.
    • First Annual Report of the Advisory Council for Adult and Continuing Education.
    • Adult literacy: 1978–79. Report to the Secretary of State for Education and Science and the Secretary of State for Wales by the Adult Literacy Unit's Management Committee on the first year of operation.
    • Report by HM Inspectors on Educational Provision by the Inner London Education Authority.
    • Mathematical Development. Primary Survey Report No. 1.
    • Mathematical Development. Secondary Survey. Report No. 1.

    Overseas Students (Hong Kong)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will indicate the number of students defined as Hong Kong by country of origin who commenced first degree courses in United Kingdom universities during the three years 1978, 1979 and 1980.

    Information is available on the country of birth of students of United Kingdom universities. The numbers of students born in Hong Kong entering United Kingdom universities at undergraduate level in 1978 and 1979 were 884 and 1,138 respectively. Information for 1980 by country of birth is not yet available. It should be noted that these figures will not correspond with those of overseas students from Hong Kong defined by their fee-paying status. The numbers of entrants to undergraduate courses in universities from Hong Kong under the fee-paying definition were 517 and 712 respectively.

    School Books (North-West)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science what percentage of the expenditure on education in the North-West of England was spent on the provision of school books in the financial year 1979–80.

    DateBasic Parlimantary SalaryRecommended SalaryPercentage increasing in Parlimantary salaryPercentage increasing in the averge industrial wage over the same period*
    ££
    1 July 19571,750†1,750
    16 October 19643,2503,25085·7
    1 January 19724,500§4,50038·576·5
    13 June 19755,750§8,00027·879·6
    13 June 19766,0625·416·9
    13 June 19776,2703·49·4
    13 June 19786,89710·016·4
    13 June 19799,450§12,00037·016·1
    13 June 198011,75024·318·9
    * Taken from the Index of Average Earnings: Production Industries and some Services (older series) Manual and non-Manual employees (combined). Figures are only available as far back as 1963.
    †Government proposal.
    ‡ Lawrence Committee recommendation.
    § Top Salaries Review Body recommendation.

    Government Expenditure

    Former Office-Holders

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether, when next considering cuts in Government expenditure, he will deal with the present

    In the financial year 1979–80 expenditure on school books, educational equipment and materials amounted to over 3 per cent. and that on books alone to over 1 per cent. of the total net recurrent expenditure of local education authorities in the North-West region of England.

    Upper Waiting Hall (Bbc Exhibition)

    asked the Secretary of State for Education and Science if he will arrange for an exhibition of the work of the BBC continuing education department to be displayed in the Upper Waiting Hall.

    I understand that arrangements have been made with the authorities of the House for the exhibition to be held in the Upper Waiting Hall from Monday 19 January 1981 to Friday 23 January 1981.

    House Of Commons

    Members' Salaries

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster if he will list in the Official Report (a) the increases in the salaries of hon. Members which have been made since 1960, (b) the increases recommended by the Boyle committee and any other bodies to which the examination of Members' salaries over the same period was entrusted, (c)the percentage increase in the average industrial wage each year over the same period and (d) the actual increase in hon. Members' salaries expressed as a percentage in each year.

    The information is given in the following table:anomalous situation whereby former Prime Ministers, Lords Chancellor and Speakers, with no ministerial responsibilities, may be in receipt of incomes and allowances larger than when they were office-holders; and if will seek powers to reduce these amounts to ensure that such persons draw only their pensions or salary paid for any appointments they hold, whichever may prove the greater.

    I do not accept the hon. Member's suggestion that the situation of former Prime Ministers, Lords Chancellor and Speakers is anomalous. The Government have no plans to alter the existing arrangements.

    Peers (Public Appointments)

    asked the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster whether he will give, at the latest and most convenient date, the names of peers who hold any appointments sponsored or coming under the control of his Department and the salary or expenses paid or claimed; and how many meetings of conferences, committees or non-departmental public bodies for which he is responsible held during the past 12 months were attended by them.

    The list of peers is as follows. None of these appointments is salaried. I regret that I have no information about the number of meetings attended or of any travelling of subsistence allowances claimed; nor do I know whether any of the bodies with which I am concerned employ peers as members of their staff.

    PeerAppointment at:
    Lord AdeaneBritish Library Board
    Lord TrendBritish Museum
    Lord BlakeBritish Museum
    HRH The Duke of GloucesterBritish Museum
    Lord Charteris of AmisfieldBritish Museum,
    National Heritage
    Lord AdrianBritish Museum,
    Memorial Fund
    Lord Boyle of HandsworthBritish Museum
    Lord AnnanNational Gallery
    HRH The Duke of EdinburghNational Maritime
    Museum
    Lord KenyonNational Portrait
    Gallery
    Lord SoamesNational Portrait
    Gallery
    The Duke of GraftonNational Portrait
    Gallery
    The Marquess of AngleseyNational Portrait
    Gallery
    Lord FlowersScience Museum
    Advisory Council
    The Duke of GraftonSir John Soane's
    Museum
    Viscount EsherSir John Soane's
    Museum
    Lord RayneSouth Bank
    Theatre Board
    Lord MishconSouth Bank
    Theatre Board
    Lord GoodmanSouth Bank
    Theatre Board
    The Earl of PlymouthStanding
    Commission on Museums & Galleries
    Lord HutchinsonTate Gallery
    Lord HarlechVictoria and Albert
    Museum Advisory Council
    Lord Dufferin and AvaWallace Collection
    Lord BrabourneBritish Film Institute
    Lord ReillyCrafts Council
    Lord Beaumont of WhitleyCrafts Council
    Lord QueensberryCrafts Council

    Peer

    Appointment at:

    Lord LloydNational Film
    School
    Lord RayneNational Theatre
    Board
    Lord MishconNational Theater
    Board
    Lord ChorleyNational Theater
    Board
    Lord GoodmanTheatres Trust
    Lord DelfontTheatres Trust
    Lady Airey of AbingdonNational Heritage
    Memorial Fund
    The Marquess of AngleseyNational Heritage
    Memorial Fund

    Scotland

    Off-Street Parking Place Orders

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what action he proposes to take in connection with the practice of regional councils in Scotland of including in off-street parking place orders penalties for non-compliance with terms of these orders which are not provided for in statute; and if he will make a statement.

    I am aware that certain local authorities are including in their off-street parking places orders surcharges to be paid where the conditions of parking specified in the order are not complied with. It would be for the courts to determine whether or not such surcharges are legal. My right hon. Friend has no power to intervene in this matter.

    Housing Support Grant

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table showing the amount of housing support grant paid to each housing authority for 1979–80, 1980–81 and the provisional allocation for 1981–82, including the effect of variation orders.

    The information requested will be contained in the reports on the second variation order for the 1979–80 settlement, the variation order for the 1980–81 settlement and the main order for the 1981–82 settlement, all of which will shortly be laid in draft before the House.

    Pupil-Teacher Ratios

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he will publish a table indicating for each regional educational authority, the ratio of the number of pupils to teachers in primary schools and in secondary schools, respectively, for the latest year for which figures are available.

    Pupil-teacher ratios in education authority primary and secondary schools at September 1978 and 1979 are contained in Scottish Education Department Statistical Bulletin No 1/B1/1980 of January 1980. a copy of which is available in the Library.

    Assisted Places Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if parents whose children currently attend those schools scheduled to take advantage of the assisted places scheme will be allowed to apply for an assisted place for their children.

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland if he has agreed to allow schools such as Dundee High School to issue application forms for places under the assisted places scheme before the scheme has been incorporated in legislation; and if he will make a statement.

    It is reasonable that schools should take steps now to put themselves in a position to admit pupils to assisted places at the beginning of the 1981–82 school year, but I have made it clear to all the schools concerned that any action taken at this stage with respect to the scheme, including the inviting of applications for places, remains subject to the approval by Parliament of the proposals as a whole.

    Pre-School Playgroups

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many local authority pre-school playgroups have been closed since May 1979.

    Information is not available centrally in the form or for the period requested. In the year ended 31 March 1980, the latest period for which figures are available, there was a net increase of eight local authority playgroups.

    Day Centres

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland (1) how many local authority day centres for the physically handicapped have been closed since May 1979;(2) how many local authority day centres for multipurpose employment have been closed since may 1979.

    Figures for the number of day centres in Scotland at 31 March 1979 and provisional figures for 31 March 1980, by main client groups, are as follows:

    Designated19791980
    Physically Handicapped1716
    Elderly3950
    Mentally Handicapped7577
    Multiple Handicapped44
    The changes result from the opening of new centres, re-designations between client groups, and closures. One centre for the physically handicapped now caters predominantly for the elderly and has been designated as such. Another centre for the physically handicapped has been closed and its users accommodated in other premises pending the completion of a purpose-built centre in 1981.

    Day Nurseries

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland how many local authority day nurseries have been closed since May 1979.

    Information is not available centrally for the period requested. In the year ended 31 March 1980, the latest date for which figures are available, no local authority day nursery was closed and three were opened.

    Colleges Of Education

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland what will be the net effect on the public sector borrowing requirement of the proposed closure of the three colleges of education in the years 1981–82, 1982–83 and 1983–84.

    Forestry

    asked the Secretary of State for Scotland whether, in light of his statement on forestry, he proposes to issue precise guidance to the Forestry Commission, indicating how many acres he expects it to dispose of during the next five years.

    No. The scale and location of areas to be sold will be at the discretion of the Forestry Commission and will depend on the demand from those interested in making investments in this sector, coupled with the need to maintain a coherent forestry management policy. The overriding objective will remain the reduction of the commission's need for grant-in-aid for its forestry enterprise activities.

    Environment

    Enterprise Zones

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what progress he has made in resolving the areas to be covered by enterprise zones; and if he will make a statement.

    The proposed boundaries for the Salford/Trafford enterprise zone are being considered by the councils: and I hope that the statutory processes leading to designation will begin very soon. Discussions are continuing with the local authorities concerned with the other enterprise zones proposed in England (Newcastle/Gateshead, Speke, Dudley and Corby): in these areas the statutory procedures should begin early in the new year. The shadow London Docklands Development Corporation is preparing proposals for the Isle of Dogs zone.I hope to announce in the new year the location of a further enterprise zone in the North of England.

    Water Authorities (Membership)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what plans he has to make the membership of water authorities more accountable to the public.

    Water authorities are accountable to Ministers and through them to Parliament. In respect of local accountability, the majority of members on each water authority are local authority representatives. I am, however, aware of the criticism about the present arrangements and am concerned to see how they might work more effectively.

    European Community Business

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many civil servants, and at what cost per annum, are employed to deal with EEC business in his Department in (a)London, (b) Brussels and (c) elsewhere.

    Many civil servants in my Department are concerned to a greater or lesser degree with EEC business. But the involvement of individuals is variable, and their numbers as full-time equivalents, costs and locations could be obtained only at disproportionate cost. I have no staff based in Brussels.

    Local Authority Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report the total rate and grant-borne expenditure of each local authority in England and Wales in 1980–81, consistent with column 55 of the Chartered Institute of Finance and Accountancy's "Financial, General and Rating Statistics", taking account of changes following the Government's request for revised budgets during the summer of 1980.

    The attached tables show the latest available information on the budgeted local rate and grantborne expenditure of local authorities in 1980–81.

    1980–81 Revised Budgets
    £000 (outturn prices)
    English Shire Counties
    Avon279,520
    Bedfordshire166,078
    Berkshire202,081
    Buckinghamshire163,966
    Cambridgeshire168,831
    Cheshire303,409
    Cleveland204,526
    Cornwall120,574
    Cumbria146,277
    Derbyshire269,769
    Devon262,342
    Dorset167,814
    Durham196,620
    East Sussex181,084
    Essex417,524
    Gloucestershire140,280
    Hampshire424,644
    Hereford and Worcester181,089
    Hertfordshire293,800
    Humberside275,840
    Isle of Wight34,442
    Kent419,377
    Lancashire418,057
    Leicestershire249,234
    Lincolnshire163,309
    Norfolk187,358
    North Yorkshire209,225
    Northamptonshire148,880
    Northumberland96,512
    Nottinghamshire294,326
    Oxfordshire158,697
    Salop112,762
    Somerset123,854
    Staffordshire314,110
    Suffolk166,482
    Surrey271,123
    Warwickshire140,606
    West Sussex172,058
    Wiltshire151,798
    Welsh Shire Counties
    Clwyd125,269
    Dyfed112,790
    Gwent145,173
    Gwynedd79,184
    Mid Glamorgan184,737
    Powys46,961
    South Glamorgan127,084
    West Glamorgan129,283

    £000 (outturn prices)

    Metropolitan Counties

    Greater Manchester259,004
    Merseyside188,471
    South Yorkshire154,960
    Tyne and Wear135,891
    West Midlands224,404
    West Yorkshire205,481

    Metropolitan Districts

    Barnsley70,312
    Birmingham331,436
    Bolton76,555
    Bradford143,398
    Bury49,210
    Calderdale60,131
    Coventry102,724
    Doncaster93,516
    Dudley69,267
    Gateshead69,643
    Kirklees105,886
    Knowsley59,401
    Leeds195,735
    Liverpool201,317
    Manchester220,738
    Newcastle-upon-Tyne110,397
    North Tyneside63,474
    Oldham69,453
    Rochdale69,457
    Rotherham76,463
    Salford86,050
    Sandwell95,914
    Sefton80,632
    Sheffield172,945
    Solihull50,967
    South Tyneside57,541
    St. Helens58,080
    Stockport79,206
    Sunderland93,843
    Tameside67,179
    Trafford61,734
    Wakefield88,202
    Walsall84,209
    Wigan95,028
    Wirral100,433
    Wolverhampton91,788

    Inner London Boroughs

    Camden86,446
    Greenwich44,803
    Hackney63,985
    Hammersmith and Fulham47,730
    Islington64,605
    Kensington and Chelsea33,684
    Lambeth92,922
    Lewisham66,600
    Southwark80,224
    Tower Hamlets53,609
    Wandsworth60,503
    Westminster54,175
    Greater London Council and ILEA1,113,868
    Metropolitan Police456,489
    City of London50,261

    Outer London Boroughs

    Barking and Dagenham56,308
    Barnet85,691
    Bexley68,146
    Brent116,080
    Bromley84,933
    Croydon93,195
    Ealing98,057
    Enfield79,478
    Haringey100,604
    Harrow60,474

    £000 (outturn prices)

    Havering72,848
    Hillingdon77,049
    Hounslow75,076
    Kingston-upon-Thames41,482
    Merton52,633
    Newham95,761
    Redbridge63,029
    Richmond-upon-Thames47,650
    Sutton47,932
    Waltham Forest87,798

    English Shire Districts

    Adur2,750
    Allerdale5,455
    Alnwick1,446
    Amber Valley4,810
    Arun5,202
    Ashfield4,817
    Ashford3,393
    Aylesbury Vale3,396
    Babergh3,439
    Barrow in Furness4,160
    Basildon10,054
    Basingstoke and Deane5,900
    Bassetlaw5,249
    Bath4,636
    Beaconsfield1,974
    Berwick-upon-Tweed1,148
    Beverley3.015
    Blaby2,018
    Blackburn13,555
    Blackpool8,967
    Blyth Valley4,787
    Bolsover3,316
    Boothferry3,021
    Boston2,148
    Bournemouth7,814
    Bracknell2,815
    Braintree3,654
    Breckland2,802
    Brentwood2,095
    Bridgnorth1,457
    Brighton11,430
    Bristol29,713
    Broadland2,659
    Bromsgrove2,209
    Broxbourne3,426
    Broxtowe4,071
    Burnley8,122
    Cambridge4,010
    Cannock Chase2,989
    Canterbury6,287
    Caradon2,625
    Carlisle6,357
    Carrick3,713
    Castle Point3,298
    Castle Morpeth1,974
    Charnwood4,034
    Chelmsford3,679
    Cheltenham3,347
    Cherwell3,339
    Chester6,011
    Chesterfield5,495
    Chester Le Street2,498
    Chichester3,766
    Chiltern2,513
    Chorley3,416
    Christchurch1,256
    Cleethorpes3,927
    Colchester3,883
    Congleton3,284
    Copeland5,516
    Corby2,713
    Cotswold2,620
    Craven2,280
    Crawley4,482

    £000 (outturn price)

    Crewe and Nantwich5,228
    Dacorum5,552
    Darlington6,392
    Dartford5,055
    Daventry1,480
    Derby11,757
    Derwentside7,037
    Dover5,236
    Durham5,583
    Easington6,129
    East Cambridgeshire1,496
    East Devon3,806
    East Hampshire3,020
    East Hertfordshire4,396
    East Lindsey4,306
    East Northampton1,611
    East Staffordshire3,175
    Eastbourne5,301
    Eastleigh3,460
    Eden1,630
    Ellesmere and Neston4,417
    Elmbridge4,079
    Epping Forest4,430
    Epsom and Ewell2,611
    Erewash4,392
    Exeter3,756
    Fareham3,616
    Fenland2,416
    Forest of Dean1,995
    Forest Heath2,245
    Fylde2,974
    Gedling3,381
    Gillingham2,293
    Glanford3,081
    Gloucester2,760
    Gosport2,800
    Gravesham4,208
    Great Grimsby5,070
    Great Yarmouth4,536
    Guildford4,566
    Halton6,318
    Hambleton2,557
    Harborough1,897
    Harlow6,294
    Harrogate6,853
    Hart2,612
    Hartlepool6,425
    Hastings3,817
    Havant3,973
    Hereford1,857
    Hertsmere4,430
    High Peak3,892
    Hinckley and Bosworth2,219
    Holderness1,556
    Horsham3,170
    Hove3,612
    Huntingdon3,979
    Hyndburn5,264
    Ipswich6,211
    Kennet2,104
    Kerrier2,865
    Kettering3,143
    Kingston-upon-Hull19,039
    Kingswood2,402
    Lancaster7,174
    Langbaurgh12,659
    Leicester18,278
    Leominster1,449
    Lewes3,129
    Lichfield2,385
    Lincoln3,837
    Luton7,917
    Macclesfield5,297
    Maidstone4,894
    Maldon1,511
    Malvern Hills2,845

    £000 (outturn prices)

    Mansfield5,603
    Medina2,726
    Medway6,013
    Melton1,508
    Mendip2,599
    Middlesbrough12,974
    Mid Bedfordshire2,295
    Mid Devon1,916
    Mid Suffolk2,141
    Mid Sussex3,921
    Milton Keynes5,365
    Mole Valley2,763
    North East Derbyshire4,700
    Newark3,641
    Newbury4,096
    Newcastle under Lyme5,153
    New Forest5,214
    North Bedfordshire4,970
    North Cornwall2,573
    North Devon3,105
    North Dorset1,230
    North Hertfordshire3,805
    North Kesteven2,474
    North Norfolk3,301
    North Shropshire1,899
    North Wolds3,571
    North West Leicester3,166
    North Warwickshire2,676
    North Wiltshire3,342
    Northampton8,592
    Northavon3,484
    Norwich8,668
    Nottingham18,244
    Nuneaton6,927
    Oadby and Wigston1,237
    Oswestry1,176
    Oxford4,478
    Pendle5,581
    Penwith2,755
    Peterborough8,545
    Plymouth8,853
    Poole5,117
    Portsmouth15,253
    Preston9,233
    Purbeck1,166
    Reading9,741
    Redditch3,189
    Reigate and Banstead4,268
    Restormel3,074
    Ribble Valley2,173
    Richmondshire1,954
    Rochford2,498
    Rossendale4,637
    Rother3,199
    Rugby3,941
    Runnymede2,410
    Rushcliffe3,606
    Rushmoor4,723
    Rutland804
    Ryedale2,640
    Salisbury3,242
    Scarborough5,387
    Scunthorpe5,314
    Sedgefield8,075
    Sedgemoor4,221
    Selby3,489
    Sevenoaks4,796
    Shepway4,727
    Shrewsbury and Atcham3,227
    Slough6,168
    South Bedfordshire4,283
    South Cambridgeshire2,126
    South Derbyshire1,944
    South Hampshire2,310
    South Herefordshire1,418
    South Holland2,847

    £000 (outturn price)

    South Kesteven3,385
    South Lakeland4,806
    South Norfolk2,452
    South Northampton1,148
    South Oxfordshire3,766
    South Ribble3,846
    South Shropshire1,466
    South Staffordshire2,793
    South Wight2,327
    Southampton12,209
    Southend on Sea8,313
    Spelthome3,491
    St. Edmundsbury2,682
    St. Albans4,335
    Stafford3,407
    Staffs. Moorlands3,854
    Stevenage4,861
    Stockton on Tees10,542
    Stoke-on-Trent10,928
    Stratford-on-Avon3,381
    Stroud3,361
    Suffolk Coastal3,479
    Surrey Heath2,553
    Swale4,869
    Tamworth2,942
    Tandridge2,072
    Taunton Deane3,273
    Teesdale1,060
    Teignbridge3,877
    Tendring5,084
    Test Valley2,856
    Tewkesbury2,222
    Thamesdown10,195
    Thanet7,084
    The Wrekin6,388
    Three Rivers3,919
    Thurrock7,155
    Tonbridge and Mailing4,176
    Torbay5,103
    Torridge2,201
    Tunbridge Wells3,554
    Tynedale2,404
    Uttlesford1,834
    Vale of White Horse3,028
    Vale Royal4,895
    Wansbeck5,012
    Wansdyke2,178
    Warrington8,582
    Warwick4,114
    Watford4,874
    Waveney4,438
    Waverley4,283
    Wealden3,450
    Wear Valley5,895
    Wellingborough2,353
    Welwyn Hatfield4,442
    West Derbyshire2,513
    West Devon1,376
    West Dorset2,224
    West Lancashire4,999
    West Lindsey2,815
    West Norfolk5,225
    West Oxfordshire2,221
    West Somerset944
    West Wiltshire2,796
    Weymouth and Portland2,500
    Wimborne1,548
    Winchester3,087
    Windsor and Maidenhead4,242
    Woking3,286
    Wokingham3,700
    Woodspring6,099
    Worcester2,915
    Worthing4,879
    Wychavon4,197
    Wycombe4,592

    £000 (outturn prices)

    Wyre4,197
    Wyre Forest5,226
    Yeovil3,868
    York4,741
    Isles of Scilly995

    Welsh Shire Districts

    Aberconwy4,021
    Afan5,353
    Alyn and Deeside3,779
    Arfon4,183
    Blaenau Gwent8,330
    Brecknock1,767
    Cardiff17,836
    Carmarthen3,605
    Ceredigion3,436
    Colwyn3,267
    Cynon Valley5,510
    Delyn4,716
    Dinefwr2,199
    Dwyfor1,722
    Glyndwr2,326
    Islwyn4,683
    Llanelli5,723
    Lliw Valley4,075
    Meirionnydd2,638
    Merthyr Tydfil6,898
    Monmouth4,201
    Montgomery2,868
    Neath4,141
    Newport9,454
    Ogwr9,507
    Preseli3,716
    Radnor895
    Rhondda8,340
    Rhuddlan3,717
    Rhymney Valley8,820
    South Pembrokeshire2,452
    Swansea16,814
    Taff-Ely8,235
    Torfaen7,209
    Vale of Glamorgan5,779
    Wrexham Maelor7,338
    Ynys Mon4,369

    Sporting Fatalities

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the number of people taking part in each sporting activity in 1977, 1978, 1979 and 1980, subdivided according to the type of sport; and if he will list the number of fatalities in each sport for each of those years.

    Wild Animals

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will list the numbers of wild animals, subdivided by species, imported for use in zoos, parks and private collections in the years 1977, 1978, 1979 and 1980.

    Listed Buildings (Demolition)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will seek to amend the law so as to ensure that the unlawful demolition of listed buildings will never be to the profit of the owner of the land on which the property is sited.

    An amendment of the kind proposed would be, in practice, extremely difficult to devise. However the Town and Country Planning Act 1971 provides for fines and imprisonment, on conviction, if a listed building is demolished without consent. Compulsory purchase orders to secure the proper preservation of a listed bulding may contain a direction for minimum compensation if the building has been deliberately neglected. I would, nevertheless, consider legislation if I became convinced of growing abuse.

    Mobility Of Labour Scheme

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will make a statement regarding the discussions that have recently been taking place between officials of his Department and representatives of local authority associations regarding the establishing of final forms of the mobility of labour scheme which was devised by the local authority asociations; and if he is yet in a position to announce how much will be given to aid this scheme.

    Details of the national mobility scheme are being finalised with the local authority associations, including the question of a Government financial contribution, and I hope to be in a position to make a statement shortly.

    Water Authorities (Charges)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will seek to put a limit on the amount by which water authorities can increase their charges.

    Under the Water Act 1973 the Government do not have the power to act in this way. It is for water authorities to determine their charges but we have impressed upon them the need to keep charges to a minimum consistent with their statutory responsibilities.

    Rents, Earnings And Prices

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he will publish in the Official Report a table showing indices based on 1958=100 for (a) unrebated council rents in England, (b) rebated council rents in England, (c) retail prices and (d) average earnings for each year from 1958 to date; and what are the actual monetary levels of (a) and (b) in each year.

    New House Building

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he can confirm, on the basis of the 1980 housing investment programmes submitted to him by local authorities in England, that proportionate reduction in spending on new house building (line 1 (d) on section B of the HIP2 return) is greater than the total reduction in spending on all capital programmes recorded on the HIP returns between 1979–80 and 1980–81, comparing in real terms actual outturn in 1979–80 with estimated payments in 1980–81; and, if so, by how much.

    Authorities' estimates of total payments on housing investment in 1980–81, as supplied on form HIP2, are in aggregate 20 per cent. in real terms below the outturn for 1979–80. These comparisons have been made at 1980 survey prices. The corresponding figure for spending on new house building is 22 per cent.

    House Purchase And Renovation

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he can confirm, on the basis of the 1980 housing investment programmes submitted to him by local authorities in England, that proportionately the largest reduction in capital spending between 1979–80 and 1980–81 took place in lending for house purchase and renovation (line 6 (c) of section B of the HIP2 return), comparing in real terms actual outturn in 1979–80 with estimated payments in 1980–81; and what the size of the reduction was in percentage terms.

    Yes. The estimated reduction is 46 per cent. in real terms. This comparison has been made at 1980 survey prices.

    Housing Capital Programmes

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what was the number of local authorities in England which spent less in 1979–80 than they were allocated by his Department for housing capital programmes, on the basis of the 1980 housing investment programme returns submitted to him by local authorities in England (comparing in real terms actual outturn in 1979–80 with allocation in November 1978); and by how much (in 1979–80 outturn prices) their actual capital spending was less than their allocation.

    The allocations made in November 1978 were revised in August 1979. I take it that the hon. Member is seeking a comparison of outturn with these revised figures.A total of 192 authorities in England spent less than their revised allocations, by a total of £110–7 million at outturn prices.These figures take no account of the tolerance arrangements for 1979–80 under which an authority's permitted expenditure might differ from its allocation as a result of its spending position in previous years. As a result of spending under the tolerance arrangements, 1979–80 outturn expenditure was £8 million in excess of the total sum allocated.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the number of local authorities in England which he expects will spend less in 1980–81 on housing capital programmes than they were allocated by his Department (comparing in real terms estimated payments in 1980–81 to housing investment programme allocations in February 1980), on the basis of housing investment programme and the returns recently submitted to him by English local authorities following the moratorium on all capital projects announced on 23 October; and by how much in real terms he expects their actual capital spending to fall short of their allocation.

    On the latest figures available to me, 179 authorities estimate that their existing expenditure commitments fall short of their allocations excluding tolerance by a total of £84.9 million at outturn prices.

    Housing Waiting Lists

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) what information he collects as to the numbers registered on local authority housing waiting lists; and what other evidence he collects as indicators of housing need;(2) how many persons were registered on local authority housing waiting, lists in England at the latest available date; what proportion of the total was applications for transfer from an existing local authority dwelling; and what were the corresponding figures for each of the past five years;(3) what estimate he makes, on a continuation of present policies, of the numbers on local authority housing waiting lists, excluding transfers, by the end of 1982 and the end of 1984;(4) what estimate he makes of the average waiting time of applicants on local authority housing waiting lists, excluding transfer applications, in each of the years 1975 to 1981 and in 1982 and 1984.

    Housing Need

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what evidence or estimate he has as to whether housing need in England will increase or decrease during the next four years.

    Local authorities' appraisals of the housing needs of their areas are submitted annually to the Department, and copies of this year's documents have been placed in the Library.

    House Condition Survey

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment when the next English house condition survey will commence; and what is the estimated date of completion.

    No decision has yet been taken on the form or timing of the next English house condition survey.

    Housing Stock (Greater London)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment if he has considered the findings of the Greater London House condition survey which suggests that the rate of deterioration of the housing stock is accelerating; what is his view on the matter; and if he will make a statement.

    Housing Policy Review

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what is the best estimate available to him of the numbers of households likely to be formed and dissolved in 1981 and 1986; and if, in the light of the latest information, he will update table III.7 of technical volume part I of the Housing Policy Review, or otherwise confirm that the projections of this table are still valid.

    An estimate of the number of households in 1981 and 1986 is contained in supplementary table XVI of "Housing and Construction Statistics," issue 29, a copy of which is available in the Library. The authors of the Housing Policy Review stated that the projects in table 111.7 were subject to considerable margins of uncertainty. We have no plans to update it.

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment (1) whether, on the basis of a continuation of present policies, he will amend table III. 29 (projected numbers of houses completed: GB) of technical volume part I of the Housing Policy Review for 1981 to 1986 and publish the revised table in the Official Report;(2) whether, on the basis of a continuation of present policies, he will amend and update table III. 38 (progress in reducing the number of households unsatisfactorily housed: present trend projections to 1986) of technical volume part I of the Housing Policy Review (1977); and if he will publish the amended table in the

    Official Report.

    I refer the hon. Member to the Government's views on updating the Housing Policy Review set out in the Government's reply to the First Report of the Select Committee on the Environment, which was published today and copies of which have been placed in the Vote Office.

    Building Regulations (Double Glazing)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment what consideration he has given to including making double glazing mandatory in his draft new building regulations and to relaxing the limits on the permitted size of windows; and if he will make a statement.

    Double glazing is not always cost effective, and it is therefore not appropriate to make it mandatory. Designers and builders are, however, free to incorporate it in their buildings where they consider it sensible; by doing so, they are able to increase the size of windows without wasting energy.

    European Community (Environment Ministers' Meeting)

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether he will make a statement about the outcome of the Council of Environment Ministers' meeting on 12 December.

    The Council agreed a regulation banning imports of whale products and two decisions concerning Community conclusion of the Geneva convention on long range transboundary air pollution and the Strasburg conventions on conservation of wildlife and natural habitats. It agreed in principle, subject to the opinion of the European Parliament, a recommendation on reuse and recovery of waste paper. It also discussed vehicle emissions.It proved impossible for the Council to reach agreement on the draft directive on major industrial hazards (deferred from the last Council) and the draft directive on discharge to water of mercury from chloralkali plants.The agreement on the regulation banning whale products is very satisfactory. Other member States welcomed the United Kingdom initiative taken a year ago which led to the proposal for a regulation. I made it clear that we saw it as a first step and that we should next proceed to agree the proposal to implement the Washington convention on trade in endangered species; it is important that individual States should be able to go further than its minimum requirements.The Council returned to discussion of the draft directive on major industrial hazards which was virtually agreed at the previous Environment Council on 30 June last. Some progress was made in improving the text but discussion concentrated on the transfrontier point. It proved, however, impossible to reconcile the views of the French and other delegations on this one outstanding point, and the directive was therefore remitted to the next Presidency.Discussion on the discharge of mercury proposal showed that there remained differences of approach to several important aspects of control of pollution from black list substances. The proposal was referred back to officials.

    Agricultural And Forestry Grants

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment whether any agricultural or forestry grants were paid to any owners of the four nature conservation review sites, Wintringham Marsh, North Yorks, Clehonger Meadow, Hereford and Worcester, Kilquockadale Flow, Dumfries and Galloway and Southern Parphe, Highlands to support agricultural improvements or forestry work.

    I have been asked to reply.Drainage work at Wintringham Marsh was grant aided in November 1974, under the farm capital grant scheme before the site was scheduled as a site of special scientific interest. No capital or forestry grants have been paid on works on the other sites listed, but the site at Kilquockadale Flow was purchased for afforestation by the Forestry Commission in 1962. Apart from an area of about 20 acres of unplantable land it had been planted or ploughed for planting before the proposal for the site of special scientific interest was notified in 1971 and the Nature Conservancy Council was so informed at the time.

    Dog Licences

    asked the Secretary of State for the Environment how many dog licences were issued in England and Wales in the last year for which he has statistics; how many dogs were estimated by his Department to be exempt from licences; and how many were estimated illegally to have no licences.

    I have been asked to reply.A total of 2,703,677 dog licences were taken out in England and Wales in the financial year 1979–80. In a report published in 1976 the inter-departmental working party on dogs noted that the United Kingdom dog population was then probably more than 6 million; and it was estimated that only one dog in two was licensed. There are no current estimates of the number of dogs in England and Wales which are either exempt from licensing or are kept illegally without a licence.

    Northern Ireland

    H-Blocks (Publications)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland how many copies of "H-blocks: The Facts" and "H-blocks: The Reality" have been distributed.

    The number of copies distributed so far is as follows:

    "H- Blocks: The Facts"approximately 15,500
    "H- Blocks: The Reality"approximately 4,500

    Ulster Hospital, Dundonald

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will make a statement about the effect Government expenditure cuts will have on the opening of the geriatric unit at the Ulster hospital, Dundonald; and when he envisages this unit opening.

    Demonstration (Pomeroy)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland if he will investigate reports of a Republican demonstration in Pomeroy on 10 December during which the Royal Ulster Constabulary station was attacked and a number of policemen injured.

    Republican And Loyalist Prisoners (Release)

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland (1) how many Republican prisoners have been released from detention on medical grounds over the last five years;(2) how many Loyalist prisoners have been released from detention on medical grounds over the last five years.

    During the last five years 12 prisoners have been released on health grounds. Of these, five were prisoners who had claimed and were granted special category status: one Loyalist and four Republicans. There is no information on the affiliation, if any, of the other prisoners.

    Public Expenditure

    asked the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland whether he will inform the House of the implications for public expenditure in Northern Ireland in 1981–82 of the announcement made to the House by the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 24 November.

    The policy changes in expenditure programmes for 1981–82 announced by my right hon. and learned Friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 24 November 1980 imply a reduction of some £7 million for Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland Departments and the Northern Ireland Office will now prepare their Main Estimates for the incoming financial year within the framework set by the Government's overall economic strategy and taking into account the most up-to-date assessment of Northern Ireland's particular needs and circumstances.

    Transport

    European Community (Driving Licence)

    asked the Minister of Transport if he intends to comply with the EEC draft directive on the introduction of a Community driving licence which requires the licence holder's photograph to be part of the licence.

    No. The directive gives member States the right to dispense with the photographic requirement.

    asked the Minister of Transport if he accepts the need to introduce an EEC model driving licence by 1 January 1983; and if he will introduce any necessary legislation.

    The EEC directive on the introduction of a community driving licence adopted by the EEC Council of Ministers on 4 December requires the exchange of driving licences issued in other Community countries from 1 January 1983 and the adoption of a common format by 1 January 1986. The United Kingdom Government intend to comply with that timetable.

    Driving Licences

    asked the Minister of Transport whether he will withdraw the present national driving licence and adopt the procedure whereby the licence is renewed every third year and the holder's photograph is renewed every six years, as used in Northern Ireland.

    No. as this would be more expensive to run than the present system and would, I believe, be inconvenient to the public.

    Armitage Inquiry

    asked the Minister of Transport whether the appointees to the inquiry into lorries, people and the environment represent any particular interests; and, if so, which interests.

    No. Sir Arthur Armitage and his four assessors were entirely independent of any particular interest. Between them they had professional expertise in law, environmental medicine, economics, land planning and engineering.

    Road Barriers

    asked the Minister of Transport if he will study the effect of the growing practice of local authorities in large cities of closing off roads with barriers, making it virtually impossible for entry or exit to take place and of motorists then using such roads as parking grounds, thus preventing emergency services from being' able to obtain entry; and if he will co-ordinate with local authorities action to be taken to overcome the problem.

    The placing of barriers across roads as part of traffic regulation schemes can bring substantial environmental benefits in residential areas. Clearly, arrangements need to be made in such cases for access by emergency services. The parking of vehicles so as to cause a danger or obstruction is an offence. The responsibility for the enforcement of parking regulations lies with the police authority concerned.

    Tarvin Bypass

    asked the Minister of Transport when he now expects work to commence on the Tarvin bypass.

    The A51 Tarvin south-western bypass is in the reserve list of schemes which, subject to satisfactory completion of the statutory procedures, could start in 1982 or 1983 if resources become available. The A54 Tarvin northern bypass is in the reserve list for 1984 onwards.

    Kelsall Bypass

    asked the Minister of Transport when he now expects work to commence on the Kelsall bypass.

    The A54 Kelsall bypass is in the reserve list of schemes which, subject to satisfactory completion of the statutory procedures, could start in 1982 or 1983 if resources become available.

    Heavy Goods Vehicles (Service Drivers)

    asked the Minister of Transport which organisations were consulted in the preparation of SI 1980/1733 and SI 1980/1734; when they were consulted; and how they were consulted.

    asked the Minister of Transport whether the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents was consulted in the preparation of SI 1980, No. 1733 and SI 1980, No. 1734; when it was consulted; and how it was consulted.

    The following organisations were consulted by telephone on the morning of 14 November: AA, RAC, ROSPA, TGWU, United Road Transport Union, Union of Shop, Distributive and Allied Workers, NUR, General and Municipal Workers Union, Freight Transport Association, Road Haulage Association, County Councils Association, Association of Metropolitan Authorities, Greater London Council, London Boroughs Association, Convention of Scottish Local Authorities.

    Drinking And Driving (Northern Region)

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the latest figure for (a) deaths, (b) serious injuries,

    Road Accidents and Casualties: Great Britain: 1978–1980*
    AccidentsPersonal killed Persons injured
    NumberIndex†NumberIndex†NumberIndex†
    1978 1st Quarter59,6491081,55910776,583109
    2nd63,9661091,53810982,521108
    3rd68,4441071,79011190,542107
    4th72,7101071,94410393,318107
    1979 1st Quarter53,729981,2728769,17798
    2nd61,4521041,44810379,215104
    3rd66,9771041,69810587,105103
    4th72,8091071,93410292,664106
    1980 1st Quarter57,3851041,3719472,151102
    2nd60,5291031,42610177,784102
    * Provisional
    † For each index, the corresponding figure in 1975 is set to 100. The fewest annual road deaths of the decade occured in 1975.
    Provisional figures for the 3rd quarter of 1980 will be issued shortly.

    Crewe-Holyhead Railway Line

    asked the Minister of Transport, what representations he has had concerning the need to electrify the Crewe-Holyhead railway line; if he proposes to have talks on this matter with the chairman of British Railways, in view of the high unemployment rate in North Wales and the need to improve communications in order to attract new industries; and if he will make a statement.

    (c) other injuries and (d) the total number of accidents where drunken driving was identified as the cause in (i) the city of Newcastle, (ii) the county of Tyne and Wear and (iii) the Northern region,

    respectively.

    In the Northern region there were 346 deaths, 3,480 serious injuries and 11,458 slight injuries reported in 1979; 2,467 drivers involved in these accidents were required to take a breath test and 720 were positive or failed to provide a sample. Of the casualties, 105 deaths and 4,844 injuries were in Tyne and Wear. The hon. Member should contact the local authorities for other local detail.

    Road Safety

    asked the Minister of Transport (1) what study he has made of public expenditure cuts on road safety;(2) what steps he is taking to monitor the effects which cuts in public expenditure have on road accidents; and if he will gather statistics at frequent intervals on changes in the numbers of road accidents, deaths and injuries.

    None, but I have seen no evidence to suggest that there might be any relationship between public expenditure levels and road safety in recent years. We collect and publish extensive statistics of road accidents and an analysis of them is published annually in "Road Accidents Great Britain" published by HMSO.

    asked the Minister of Transport what are the latest figures available for road accidents, deaths and injuries; and how these compare with corresponding figures in recent years.

    I have received no such representations. The case for main line electrification generally is considered in the joint review by my Department and British Rail which will be published early in the New Year.

    Driving Tests (Carlisle And Cumbria)

    asked the Minister of Transport how many persons took their driving test in Carlisle and Cumbria, respectively, during the year ended 30 September; how many failed their test; and how this compares with the rest of the United Kingdom.

    4,556 L-tests were conducted in Carlisle during the year ended 30 September 1980; 2,605 resulted in failure (57·1 per cent.). Comparative figures for Cumbria are 15,993 tests and 8,568 failures (53·6 per cent.) and for Great Britain as a whole 1,884,023 tests and 992,094 failures (52·7 per cent.)

    asked the Minister of Transport how many persons in Carlisle and Cumbria, respectively, failed their second driving test during the year ended 30 September; and how many took their test and failed at the third attempt.

    This information is not available. Details are not kept of the number of times individual candidates take the driving test.

    Track Costs

    asked the Minister of Transport, whether he has any plans to revise the methods by which his Department calculates and allocates track costs.

    I shall be considering the case for changes to the methodology in the light of recent representations by interested bodies and the particular recommendations on this point in the Armitage report.

    Concessionary Travel

    asked the Minister of Transport how many local authorities in England and Wales offer some form of concessionary travel for retirement pensioners in England and Wales; and if he will list them in the Official Report.

    It is for individual local authorities to decide what, if any concessions to provide for elderly people and the Department does not collect details of their schemes.

    British Railways

    asked the Minister of Transport what is the current level of capital expenditure and the number of employees in British Railways.

    The latest information available on capital expenditure is contained in the British Railways Board's annual report and accounts for 1979. This shows (tables 3A and 3B, page 52) that capital expenditure by the whole of the Railways Board's businesses during 1979 amounted to £205·1 million. On the same basis, staff employed at the end of 1979 totalled 244,084 (table 5M, page 77).

    Agricultural Vehicles

    asked the Minister of Transport what progress he is making in his investigation into lights and brakes on trailers and vehicles in agriculture.

    Road Accidents

    asked the Minister of Transport how many road accidents occurred between 2 November and 16 November which were attributable to ice and snow.

    Causes of accidents are not identified in reports to my Department. In 1979, 7 per cent. of injury accident reports indicate the presence of ice or snow. Half the vehicles involved skidded. A particular recent period could not be analysed without disproportionate cost.